[tw5] Re: Restyling a drop zone

[maki aea]

wish i could try this on your code to see if it works first, but have you 
tried

div.sib-quick-tiddler-jump .tc-dropzone.tc-dragover:before {
display: inline-block;

instead of display: block; ?

sorry am on ios mobile so using google groups is difficult for me, sorry 
for short message

alternatively linonetwo seems to use flex for something similar in 
https://onetwo.ren/wiki/#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Flinonetwo%2Fopened-tiddlers-bar%2Fstyle.css:%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Flinonetwo%2Fopened-tiddlers-bar%2Fstyle.css%20%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Flinonetwo%2Fopened-tiddlers-bar%20%24%3A%2FAdvancedSearch%20tiddlywiki%20Index

warmest wishes, maki
On Sunday, June 27, 2021 at 12:18:07 AM UTC+1 Soren Bjornstad wrote:

> I'm creating a horizontal list of my open tiddlers that runs across the 
> top of the wiki, like this:
>
> [image: Screenshot from 2021-06-26 18-13-01.png]
>
> It's based on *list-links-draggable* and works great except for when I 
> try to drag something to a different position. When I try, the bar scrolls 
> to fit the dropzone on a separate line, so that I can no longer see where 
> I'm moving the tiddler to:
>
> [image: 2.png]
>
> I tried poking through the theme CSS for a bit, but wasn't able to find 
> anything that worked. It doesn't help that it's impossible to carefully 
> inspect the DOM with the browser devtools since the mouse is tied up with 
> the drag. Can someone point me to how I'd make the dropzone end up 
> horizontally inline with the items, instead of above/below them?
>
> Here's the code of the tiddler/CSS that I currently have:
>
> 
> <>
> 
>
> 
> div.sib-quick-tiddler-jump {
> background-color: <>;
> position: fixed;
> z-index: 850;
> display: inline-block;
> top: 0;
> right: 0;
> left: 0;
> text-align: center;
> height: 25px;
> overflow: auto;
> border-bottom: 1px solid <>;
> padding-bottom: 3px;
> padding-top: 3px;
> font-size: 12px;
> }
>
> div.sib-quick-tiddler-jump a {
> color: <>;
> }
>
> div.sib-quick-tiddler-jump a.tc-tiddlylink-shadow {
> font-weight: normal;
> }
>
> div.sib-quick-tiddler-jump .tc-dropzone.tc-dragover:before {
> display: block;
> position: relative;
> top: 0;
> left: 0;
> right: 0;
> }
>
> div.sib-quick-tiddler-jump ul {
> list-style-type: none;
> margin: 0;
> padding: 0;
> }
>
> div.sib-quick-tiddler-jump ul li {
> display: inline-block;
> }
>
> .sib-quick-tiddler-jump ul li div:after {
> padding-left: 5px;
> content: "·";
> padding-right: 5px;
> }
>
> /* not last-child because there's a dropzone after it */
> .sib-quick-tiddler-jump ul li:nth-last-child(2) div:after {
> content: "";
> }
> 
>

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[tw5] Re: Refresh tiddler automatically

[Eric Shulman]

On Saturday, June 26, 2021 at 8:05:15 PM UTC-7 Soren Bjornstad wrote:

> Has anyone found a way to make TiddlyWiki re-render a part of the page 
> template periodically?

I'd like to have a section in my page template that does a calculation 
> based on the current time, and would love if I didn't have to click a 
> button all the time to update it. 

Maybe some kind of event that's scheduled in JavaScript and fires every 
> minute?


My TiddlyTools Timer functions can do this.

1) Copy the $action-timeout widget from 
   http://tiddlytools.com/timer.html#TiddlyTools%2FTime%2Faction-timeout.js 


2) Create a "MinuteTickerStartup" tiddler, tagged with 
*$:/tags/StartupAction*, containing:
\define minute_ticker() <$action-setfield 
$tiddler="$:/temp/time/minuteticker" text=<> />
<$action-timeout interval=6 actions=<> />

3) In a tiddler tagged with *$:/tags/PageTemplate*, put the content you 
want to automatically re-render each minute, like this:
<$vars ticker={{$:/temp/time/minuteticker}}>
   *** content you want to re-render ***


Notes:
1) MinuteTickerStartup is invoked *once* when you load your TiddlyWiki and 
sets up an javascript "interval" timer that is triggered every minute 
(6 milliseconds)
2) The ticker action updates the contents of *$:/temp/time/minuteticker* to 
contain the current time (0hh0mm0ss)
3) The $vars "wrapper" in the page template tiddler creates a refresh 
dependency associated with the current value in *$:/temp/time/minuteticker*

The result is that whatever content is in your page template will be 
re-rendered once per minute.  Q.E.D.

enjoy,
-e

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[tw5] Soren Bjornstad’s reading list tutorial

[Rehali]

Before the question, first of all if you read this Soren then many thanks 
for your excellent tutorial on YouTube - it’s what got me started with 
tiddlywiki.

Now the question. If you’ve seen the tutorial, what I would like to do is 
to display a list of the books on the tiddly belonging to their author. The 
author field for each book is a link, as in [[Charles Dickens]]

I was hoping to use a filter on each Author tiddler like:

[tag[Source]field:author{!title}]

but I can’t get anything to work.

Any help would be much appreciated.

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[tw5] Re: Linking to Field Values

[Darth Mole]

@merry.ma

I just had a quick question about your process. I was wondering why you 
were using a field in the tiddler instead of [[MadeupLand]] to create a 
link? Or, I suppose for that matter, why not simply put the  like you had? Not trying to be rude, truly just 
being curious about your process. Is there a particular reason or benefit 
you get from using the value of a field?

Thank you!

On Saturday, June 26, 2021 at 7:10:43 PM UTC-4 merry.ma...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hello, I think this is a pretty basic problem, but I've not been able to 
> figure out how to do it. 
>
> Within tiddlywiki, I have profiles for made-up individuals. I have 
> birthcountry of each individual recorded as a field. I also have 
> wikipedia-style sideboxes with individuals date of birth, date of death, 
> parentage, childrenetc and birthcountry as well.
>
> All I want to do is have it so that I can use the birthcountry field to 
> supply a value that I can use as both text and a link to another tiddler.
>
> For example: 
> John Smith
> Born - 04/05/1872 - Fantasyshire, MadeupLand (with "MadeupLand" value 
> drawn from the field and also used link to a tiddler with the title 
> "MadeupLand")
>
> Currently, I can retrieve the field value:
>
> <$view field=birthcountry/>
>
> And I can manually link to 'MadeupLand':
>
> <$link to="MadeupLand">
>
> But putting them together like this: 
>
> <$link to=<$view field=birthcountry/>
>
> Does not work, I just get "true"
>
> Any help would be much appreciated!
>

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[tw5] Refresh tiddler automatically

[Soren Bjornstad]

Has anyone found a way to make TiddlyWiki re-render a part of the page 
template periodically? I'd like to have a section in my page template that 
does a calculation based on the current time, and would love if I didn't 
have to click a button all the time to update it. Maybe some kind of event 
that's scheduled in JavaScript and fires every minute?

I did find this interesting thread 
, but it doesn't 
offer any kind of timer-based refresh.

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[tw5] [recommendation] Installing a splash screen

[TW Tones]

Folks,

I have currently got the unhappy situation where my broadband provider has 
failed to move my broadband to my new address. Broken beaurocracy is on of 
my biggest frustrations. 

What this means is I am running at less than 1MB internet access, and I 
thought I would share the fact that many tiddlywikis look like they are 
broken when no loading splash screen is available.

So I would like to suggest not only Add a splash screen to large wikis, a 
must, but perhaps even add them to all internet published wikis.

If you agree please thumbs up 
here https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/discussions/5827

Tones

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[tw5] Re: List-search for System and Shadows tabs

[TW Tones]

David,

Thanks for sharing.

The functionality you are showing would be good in any list in the sidebar, 
perhaps with the search becoming visible when the number of items exceeds a 
number such as 20

Regards
Tones

On Sunday, 27 June 2021 at 09:23:14 UTC+10 David Gifford wrote:

> Hi everyone
>
> This solution is something really simple, I can't be the first to have 
> thought of it, but it really helps me. 
>
> Using custom tabs for adding list-searches to filter and open the System 
> and Shadows tiddlers.
>
>
> https://giffmex.org/gifts/documenting.tw.html#List-search%20for%20System%20and%20Shadow%20tiddlers
>
> Dave
>

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[tw5] Re: Linking to Field Values

[Soren Bjornstad]

Hi Merry,

This isn't valid XML/HTML/wikitext:

<$link to=<$view field=birthcountry/>

You can never nest widgets within attributes of other widgets like this 
(side note: notice that even if this was allowable, you would be missing a 
closing > after the /> to finish the opening $link tag). More generally, it 
might be worth learning now that in an attribute like to=, you can do 
exactly one of four things in TW:

   - to="constant value" [see note 1]
   - to={{field transclusion}}
   - to={{{filtered transclusion}}}
   - to=<>

Any combination of these, or any other content, won't work. Here's a summary 
of the available transclusion syntax 

.

Fortunately, there's no need to use a $view widget here – you can just 
transclude the field with the double-brace syntax:

<$link to={{!!birthcountry}}/>

[1] There are three other ways you can quote the value: """triple 
quotes""", 'single quotes', and sometimes no quotes at all (if there aren't 
any spaces or special characters in the value).
On Saturday, June 26, 2021 at 6:10:43 PM UTC-5 merry.ma...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hello, I think this is a pretty basic problem, but I've not been able to 
> figure out how to do it. 
>
> Within tiddlywiki, I have profiles for made-up individuals. I have 
> birthcountry of each individual recorded as a field. I also have 
> wikipedia-style sideboxes with individuals date of birth, date of death, 
> parentage, childrenetc and birthcountry as well.
>
> All I want to do is have it so that I can use the birthcountry field to 
> supply a value that I can use as both text and a link to another tiddler.
>
> For example: 
> John Smith
> Born - 04/05/1872 - Fantasyshire, MadeupLand (with "MadeupLand" value 
> drawn from the field and also used link to a tiddler with the title 
> "MadeupLand")
>
> Currently, I can retrieve the field value:
>
> <$view field=birthcountry/>
>
> And I can manually link to 'MadeupLand':
>
> <$link to="MadeupLand">
>
> But putting them together like this: 
>
> <$link to=<$view field=birthcountry/>
>
> Does not work, I just get "true"
>
> Any help would be much appreciated!
>

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[tw5] Re: Linking to Field Values

[Eric Shulman]

On Saturday, June 26, 2021 at 4:10:43 PM UTC-7 merry.ma...@gmail.com wrote:

> All I want to do is have it so that I can use the birthcountry field to 
> supply a value that I can use as both text and a link to another tiddler.
> Currently, I can retrieve the field value:
> <$view field=birthcountry/>
> And I can manually link to 'MadeupLand':
> <$link to="MadeupLand">
> But putting them together like this: 
> <$link to=<$view field=birthcountry/>
> Does not work, I just get "true"
>

Try this:
<$link to={{!!birthcountry}} /> 

enjoy,
-e

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[tw5] List-search for System and Shadows tabs

[David Gifford]

Hi everyone

This solution is something really simple, I can't be the first to have 
thought of it, but it really helps me. 

Using custom tabs for adding list-searches to filter and open the System 
and Shadows tiddlers.

https://giffmex.org/gifts/documenting.tw.html#List-search%20for%20System%20and%20Shadow%20tiddlers

Dave

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[tw5] Linking to Field Values

[Merry Machiavelli]

Hello, I think this is a pretty basic problem, but I've not been able to 
figure out how to do it. 

Within tiddlywiki, I have profiles for made-up individuals. I have 
birthcountry of each individual recorded as a field. I also have 
wikipedia-style sideboxes with individuals date of birth, date of death, 
parentage, childrenetc and birthcountry as well.

All I want to do is have it so that I can use the birthcountry field to 
supply a value that I can use as both text and a link to another tiddler.

For example: 
John Smith
Born - 04/05/1872 - Fantasyshire, MadeupLand (with "MadeupLand" value drawn 
from the field and also used link to a tiddler with the title "MadeupLand")

Currently, I can retrieve the field value:

<$view field=birthcountry/>

And I can manually link to 'MadeupLand':

<$link to="MadeupLand">

But putting them together like this: 

<$link to=<$view field=birthcountry/>

Does not work, I just get "true"

Any help would be much appreciated!

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Re: [tw5] Re: Artwork for v5.2.0

[John D]

Hi everyone, here's my honest feedback, I hope it will be useful :

springer
 :
love the simplicity of it. I instantly understood what the update was
about, only thing missing is the drag feature, which I agree with saq
seems too important to be left out. One way around it maybe would be to
"drag and drop the whole image of that logo", adding a mouse cursor at the
edge of it .. this would add a lot of clutter tho. The variation @Mohamed
did, while showing all the main newelty of this update, is too cluttered
IMO. Color wise, I think it would be best to use the color palette of the
vanilla TW, since new users will see TW in the vanilla theme and might
think that the black and white logo is a way to show that now tiddlywiki as
a night mode option. While this is technically true (with the palette),
this is not part of the update so it may be a bit confusing. This goes for
the font you used too, I might be wrong but it looks like it's not the
default font used by TW. The feature slogan is a nifty touch but goes
against the brief. You could left the fields empty, use gibberish text
(lorem ipsum), or use a conceptual approach and use rectangular bars as a
placeholder (something you can see on some website, like when youtube is
loading content). I personally don't like the masked versions. This makes
the logo trapped into a shape, while all the previous splash screens (that
I know of) were either rectangular or open. The mouse cursor suggests that
it's hovering a link, while we see a field in the picture so it's a bit
confusing.
iamdar 
: the fish logo is very cute and the cloud of files is a great way to show
how tiddlers are interconnected. I can't see how this relates to this
particular update though. Maybe the fish could be added by drag and drop at
the center of the files ? It would show how we can now easily add images
inside a wiki, like dropping a fish in a pond. You could even add ripples,
but this may be too much. To be honest, I'm really not a fan of the O of
the version number though, to me it looks like you meshed up two icons
together instead of one. It also makes the numbers a bit less readable.
While it's a cool 3D effect, to my eyes it's jarring next to the flat,
non-shaded style of the fish. I also fail to see how it relates to the
update.

IMO the version with a white background looks better, the fish is a bit
drowned in that blue (no pun intended).Your second proposition, without the
fish, seems a bit better in regard to my previous point (only one logo is
best). Maybe use {} instead of [] to appeal to the json change ? I know
both are used in JSON but the [] looks more like a tiddlywiki link. Again,
not a fan of the 3D look. I do like the dotted line however, it makes it
very clear that the 0 is being dropped. It would be best to use a grab
cursor instead of a pointer, again it looks like we are about to click on a
link instead of drag a picture. I see you corrected it in your 4th
attempt, this looks much better IMO :)

brunsb 
: using brackets is a really good idea to show how tiddlywiki transit to a
json format. However if I understood correctly, this change does not
concern the typical end user that much, and I'm not sure this will be
understood for someone with no coding background. I feel like @jermolene
should clarify that point : who is the targeted audience of that logo ? Do
you want to appeal to new users or to devs ? Back to your design @brunsb :
while I think it's a good idea, I wouldn't put the red triangle. It doesn't
add anything (?) and feels out of place to me.

I like your second design
 a lot
! It is simple, very clear, we see the drag feature, the version
number. Maybe it would be best to not obfuscate the Tiddlywiki name
however. The mouse cursor should be a grab cursor.

Brian Radspinner
 : the
dashed line is a good way to represent the drag feature, I like that !
The overall composition looks a bit rough however. Your third version
 looks
much better, I'm not sure about the orange background tho.

james :
Your logo looks like it implies that TW now has 3D anaglyph capabilities,
sorry I don't get it .. the "breaking things apart and putting them back
together" concept is clever, but the way you represent it with different
colours led me to think that this is about colors, maybe printing ? Also I
fail to see how this modular idea is representative to this update, AFAIK
tiddlywiki always was modular in the sense we could add tiddlers, plugins,
etc easily.

PS : Regarding the change of name, for all 

Re: [tw5] NoteTaking in Streams

[Saq Imtiaz]

@walt 

> Saq, i just hope that the enthusiasm of your user community here is 
> sufficient to retain your continuing interest in Streams.  
>

Unless something very unexpected happens, I am committed to at least 
maintaining Streams in its current form for the long term. So you need not 
worry that it will stop working or not be updated for new TW versions etc.

Cheers,
Saq

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[tw5] Re: Streams Plugin - Splitting text

[Saq Imtiaz]

Hi Steve,

trying using just split instead of /split/gi
Under the covers, the value provided is being used as an operand to the 
filter operator splitregexp:
https://tiddlywiki.com/#splitregexp%20Operator

Hopefully this will help you better formulate your regular expression. I'll 
add some disambiguation to the docs about this when I get the chance. 

Do note that this split feature was born out of a need to get data quickly 
into Streams for testing purposes during its development. As such it is a 
relatively simple implementation. Streams mostly focuses on writing content 
and dividing it into tiddlers as you write.

For a richer solution for splitting existing content, perhaps have a look 
at Notowritey:
https://links.tiddlywiki.com/urls/83843a24db5f93e7248d/


On Saturday, June 26, 2021 at 11:41:18 AM UTC+2 SteveH wrote:

> Hi again,
>
> I've  changed the settings to try using a word per:
>
> Regular expression used to split text : /split/gi
>
> - unfortunately can't get this to work.
>
> Regards
> hsteve
>
>
>
> On Saturday, 26 June 2021 at 7:56:21 am UTC+10 SteveH wrote:
>
>> Thank you Saq and Si for your help. Much appreciated.
>>
>> On Friday, 25 June 2021 at 10:47:21 pm UTC+10 Si wrote:
>>
>>> Hi hsteve. There are two ways to split text:
>>>
>>> 1. If you are editing a node and press enter, the stream will be split 
>>> at the location of the caret/curser.
>>> 2. If you are editing a node and press alt+enter, the text will be split 
>>> at every place there is a new line.
>>>
>>> Note that /n/n is a regular expression that represents any new line. 
>>> It's not something you have to actually add to the text.
>>>
>>> On Friday, 25 June 2021 at 12:27:04 UTC+1 SteveH wrote:
>>>

 Hi,

 A basic question relating to text splitting within a single long text 
 tiddler.

 The plugin settings show 

- Regular expression used to split text = /n/n
- Split text at caret position

 Inserting /n/n/ or a claret didn't seem to work .  

 Looking for help here.

 Regards

 hsteve




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Re: [tw5] GitHub Saver 404 error

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Carsten

> On 18 Jun 2021, at 18:18, 'Carsten' via TiddlyWiki 
>  wrote:
> 
> But I might have a security concern here. I found some TW files online in 
> GitHub Repos which, after downloading the files from the GitHub repo, (not 
> the github.io -pages version), still contain the Access 
> Token in clear text. Visible when you inspect the source code. 
> Is there a way, that the access token gets taken out before the file is saved 
> to github?

I can’t see an obvious cause for that. Could you link to one of the wikis 
concerned?

Many thanks,

Jeremy

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Re: [tw5] Re: TW as static site generator in AWS lambda

[Mohamed Amin]

Thanks a million Mohammed for sharing such a great article

For me, the following paragraph shows how powerful TW5 is :

Purple News was born out of a client need to track the way several news 
sources were covering the topic of “Voting” during the 2020 US presidential 
election. Using AWS Athena to scale up SQL query automation, we extended 
this concept to track lots of different topics — and used 
TiddlyWiki-on-Lambda to generate every page on the site!

Regards

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Re: [tw5] NoteTaking in Streams

[ludwa6]

Great feedback, all!  And to your comment, Saq:

On Saturday, June 26, 2021 at 2:21:52 PM UTC+1 saq.i...@gmail.com wrote:

> @Walt hopefully you are getting some helpful feedback here. Apologies for 
> the slight digression caused by my replying to Streams specific comments 
> and feedback.
>

Not a digression at all!  this is about "NoteTaking in Streams" -which adds 
such new dimensions for expression in TW, it's great to hear about these 
different applications & adaptations. 

Saq, i just hope that the enthusiasm of your user community here is 
sufficient to retain your continuing interest in Streams.  As said in that 
earlier thread:  if the authoring world does indeed break more-or- less 
neatly into "Architect" types and "Gardener" types, then by that same token 
the intersection set between Outliners and Wiki-Weavers may be pretty 
small... But then, those of us who fall into that crossover ground REALLY 
need this TW+Streams solution.  
I for one have been on the hunt for a software like this some >25 years ;  
there's nothing else that even comes close, AFAICT.

/walt 

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Re: [tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki toolmap submissions

[John D]

Hello oflg,

Very nice plugin, I love the simplicity of it !
If I may give a suggestion : I love your fish icon, however the text inside
is too small, maybe it would be best to either make it bigger or not in the
icon altogether ?

Best wishes,

Télumire

Le sam. 26 juin 2021 à 08:45, oflg li  a écrit :

> Hi Dave,
>
> I create a   plugin Fising
>  , a  plugin fishing tiddly with Anki
>  algorithm.
> Github repository : https://github.com/oflg/fishing.
> Demo site oflg.github.io/fishing/
>
> :)
> 在2018年2月7日星期三 UTC+8 上午10:24:27 写道：
>
>> Hi all
>>
>> Tonight I finished going through the existing sites I know about and
>> adding entries to the TiddlyWiki Toolmap (
>> https://dynalist.io/d/zUP-nIWu2FFoXH-oM7L7d9DM). Thank you, Jesus! Just
>> over 500 entries. From here on out it will just be a matter of maintaining
>> it. That seems to be the hard part: some of the sites I consulted had dead
>> links or hadn't been updated in a long time.
>>
>> *You can help me: *
>>
>> Please contact me either by replying to this thread or emailing me
>> directly at dgif...@crcna.org if:
>>
>> 1) you find items that are missing and ought to be on that list.
>> 2) you find information that needs correcting - dead links, items that
>> would be better placed in a different category, items that need better
>> descriptions, etc (Josiah aka TiddlyTweeter has been helping me a lot with
>> this - thanks a bunch!)
>> 3) you create a plugin, macro, theme, or adaptation of TiddlyWiki 5 that
>> you would like included. For example, since I started the toolmap, I have
>> been adding items I find here, like the new MyMenus. If you can tell me
>> what category it should go under, even better.
>>
>> *Two other favors I ask:*
>>
>> 1) Maybe the powers that be can pin this thread at the top of the Google
>> group as a reminder?
>>
>> 2) If you create a plugin, macro, theme, or adaptation, put something
>> like "Presenting" or "Introducing" or "New plugin" at the beginning of the
>> discussion thread, to clearly mark it so I will spot it when I check the
>> Google group, which I tend to do every 2-3 days.
>>
>> Thanks in advance for your help. Now go play with TiddlyWiki and come up
>> with some cool new stuff!
>>
>> Blessings,
>>
>> Dave Gifford
>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki toolmap submissions

[David Gifford]

hi oflg

Thanks! I just added this under "Educational aids"

David Gifford
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On Sat, Jun 26, 2021 at 1:45 AM oflg li  wrote:

> Hi Dave,
>
> I create a   plugin Fising
>  , a  plugin fishing tiddly with Anki
>  algorithm.
> Github repository : https://github.com/oflg/fishing.
> Demo site oflg.github.io/fishing/
>
> :)
> 在2018年2月7日星期三 UTC+8 上午10:24:27 写道：
>
>> Hi all
>>
>> Tonight I finished going through the existing sites I know about and
>> adding entries to the TiddlyWiki Toolmap (
>> https://dynalist.io/d/zUP-nIWu2FFoXH-oM7L7d9DM). Thank you, Jesus! Just
>> over 500 entries. From here on out it will just be a matter of maintaining
>> it. That seems to be the hard part: some of the sites I consulted had dead
>> links or hadn't been updated in a long time.
>>
>> *You can help me: *
>>
>> Please contact me either by replying to this thread or emailing me
>> directly at dgif...@crcna.org if:
>>
>> 1) you find items that are missing and ought to be on that list.
>> 2) you find information that needs correcting - dead links, items that
>> would be better placed in a different category, items that need better
>> descriptions, etc (Josiah aka TiddlyTweeter has been helping me a lot with
>> this - thanks a bunch!)
>> 3) you create a plugin, macro, theme, or adaptation of TiddlyWiki 5 that
>> you would like included. For example, since I started the toolmap, I have
>> been adding items I find here, like the new MyMenus. If you can tell me
>> what category it should go under, even better.
>>
>> *Two other favors I ask:*
>>
>> 1) Maybe the powers that be can pin this thread at the top of the Google
>> group as a reminder?
>>
>> 2) If you create a plugin, macro, theme, or adaptation, put something
>> like "Presenting" or "Introducing" or "New plugin" at the beginning of the
>> discussion thread, to clearly mark it so I will spot it when I check the
>> Google group, which I tend to do every 2-3 days.
>>
>> Thanks in advance for your help. Now go play with TiddlyWiki and come up
>> with some cool new stuff!
>>
>> Blessings,
>>
>> Dave Gifford
>>
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Re: [tw5] NoteTaking in Streams

[TW Tones]

Saq,

Well, I not one person that uses streams every day, Me. I am also 
continuing to extends its features with my own tools.

The big boost to my use was discovering how much I can make us of drag and 
drop in both Streams and Projectify. This has changed my everyday use of 
tiddlywiki.

I also see Streams as a source of ideas to develop even more general tools. 

I will volunteer for anything to do with streams, but yes I have to manage 
the rest of my life, but if you are happy if sometimes I make take time to 
get around to something count me in.

Love your work
Tones


On Saturday, 26 June 2021 at 23:21:52 UTC+10 Saq Imtiaz wrote:

> @Walt hopefully you are getting some helpful feedback here. Apologies for 
> the slight digression caused by my replying to Streams specific comments 
> and feedback.
>
> @fred you can also export using a filter from the Filter tab in Advanced 
> Search
>
> @Si,
>  
>
>> On the topic of how many people use it, maybe you could consider creating 
>> a Google Form and linking to it from the download page, asking users if 
>> they would take a second to answer some brief questions?
>>
>
> I've been considering it for some time actually. Apart from feedback on 
> workflow, just knowing whether the number of people regularly using Streams 
> is < 10, 10-20, or 20+ would be very helpful.
>  
>
>> I was also wondering if you had considered setting up a way for users to 
>> donate? Not necessarily to fund development, just to show appreciation for 
>> great free software! I am not currently in a position to contribute much, 
>> but in the future I would certainly be happy to subscribe to a patreon or 
>> whatever.
>>
>
> I think the most value for myself would be in just getting regular, 
> precise and on-topic feedback. Implementing new features in the absence of 
> user feedback is just driving blind from my perspective. I also find it 
> very frustrating and motivation sapping when I post ideas or demos and at 
> times get feedback that is far off topic or just so poorly written that it 
> is more frustrating than helpful.  Mind you, I try to be very understanding 
> of users for whom English is not their first language. It is actually very 
> pleasing how constructive and helpful this thread has been thus far in 
> comparison.  
>
> I've also been considering asking for volunteers for a small group of 
> regular users of Streams for testing new features.. from my perspective 
> however how, much effort I put into adding new features to Streams is 
> highly dependent on how many people regularly use it and find that it 
> imparts value. Call it a personal quirk but wanting to impart the most 
> value possible is something that often drives my decision making in terms 
> of what I dedicate my time to. Otherwise the motivation for work on Streams 
> is just whatever seems interesting for me personally from a technical 
> perspective.
>  
>
>> I would add that like Mario I am very happy with the current features of 
>> streams, though I have made the following tweak to the text display for the 
>> breadcrumbs. It's a very minor thing, but in my opinion looks nicer than 
>> just cutting off the title mid-word:
>>
>> <$text text={{{ 
>> [length[]compare:number:lt[40]then] 
>> ~[split[]first[40]join[]trim[]addsuffix[...]] }}}/>
>>
>
> That is definitely a nice idea. I wonder if we might take it a step 
> further and just drop the last word (which may be incomplete). This is 
> untested:
>
>  <$text text={{{ 
> [length[]compare:number:lt[40]then] 
> ~[split[]first[40]join[]trim[]search-replace:g:regexp[(.*)\s(\w+)$],[$1]]
>  
> }}}/>
>
> What do you think?
> Cheers,
> Saq
>

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Re: [tw5] NoteTaking in Streams

[Saq Imtiaz]

@Walt hopefully you are getting some helpful feedback here. Apologies for 
the slight digression caused by my replying to Streams specific comments 
and feedback.

@fred you can also export using a filter from the Filter tab in Advanced 
Search

@Si,
 

> On the topic of how many people use it, maybe you could consider creating 
> a Google Form and linking to it from the download page, asking users if 
> they would take a second to answer some brief questions?
>

I've been considering it for some time actually. Apart from feedback on 
workflow, just knowing whether the number of people regularly using Streams 
is < 10, 10-20, or 20+ would be very helpful.
 

> I was also wondering if you had considered setting up a way for users to 
> donate? Not necessarily to fund development, just to show appreciation for 
> great free software! I am not currently in a position to contribute much, 
> but in the future I would certainly be happy to subscribe to a patreon or 
> whatever.
>

I think the most value for myself would be in just getting regular, precise 
and on-topic feedback. Implementing new features in the absence of user 
feedback is just driving blind from my perspective. I also find it very 
frustrating and motivation sapping when I post ideas or demos and at times 
get feedback that is far off topic or just so poorly written that it is 
more frustrating than helpful.  Mind you, I try to be very understanding of 
users for whom English is not their first language. It is actually very 
pleasing how constructive and helpful this thread has been thus far in 
comparison.  

I've also been considering asking for volunteers for a small group of 
regular users of Streams for testing new features.. from my perspective 
however how, much effort I put into adding new features to Streams is 
highly dependent on how many people regularly use it and find that it 
imparts value. Call it a personal quirk but wanting to impart the most 
value possible is something that often drives my decision making in terms 
of what I dedicate my time to. Otherwise the motivation for work on Streams 
is just whatever seems interesting for me personally from a technical 
perspective.
 

> I would add that like Mario I am very happy with the current features of 
> streams, though I have made the following tweak to the text display for the 
> breadcrumbs. It's a very minor thing, but in my opinion looks nicer than 
> just cutting off the title mid-word:
>
> <$text text={{{ 
> [length[]compare:number:lt[40]then] 
> ~[split[]first[40]join[]trim[]addsuffix[...]] }}}/>
>

That is definitely a nice idea. I wonder if we might take it a step further 
and just drop the last word (which may be incomplete). This is untested:

 <$text text={{{ 
[length[]compare:number:lt[40]then] 
~[split[]first[40]join[]trim[]search-replace:g:regexp[(.*)\s(\w+)$],[$1]]
 
}}}/>

What do you think?
Cheers,
Saq

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Re: [tw5] NoteTaking in Streams

[Saq Imtiaz]

>
>
> +@saq: you will however note this pattern of moving nodes from one tiddler 
> to another also disrupts the powerful relink tool when you rename the root. 
> Only child nodes that match the title prefix are updated; meaning anything 
> you dragged from a different origin retains its old name. The alternative 
> would be the drag n' drop action also updates the child node title to the 
> destination tiddler.
>

I've added an issue so that the idea isn't 
lost: https://github.com/saqimtiaz/streams/issues/22

However, note my reservations about how such a behaviour would be highly 
dependent on the title configuration being used and therefore adding it may 
not be feasible. This is the downside of allowing such a high level of 
configuration and customization.

 

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Re: [tw5] NoteTaking in Streams

[Frédéric Demers]

exactly @PMario; thanks for the pointer; coupled with the TWCommander
 plugin, one can export based on a
filter result if I am not mistaken

+@saq: you will however note this pattern of moving nodes from one tiddler
to another also disrupts the powerful relink tool when you rename the root.
Only child nodes that match the title prefix are updated; meaning anything
you dragged from a different origin retains its old name. The alternative
would be the drag n' drop action also updates the child node title to the
destination tiddler.



On Sat, 26 Jun 2021 at 00:32, PMario  wrote:

> Have a look at the new filters:
> https://saqimtiaz.github.io/streams/#Streams%200.2%20improvements%2FFilters
> the last one.
>
> -m
>
> On Saturday, June 26, 2021 at 5:13:07 AM UTC+2 fred@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> @saq; certainly.
>> When dragging a node from one root tiddler to another, it retains the
>> naming convention of previous tiddler.
>> I believe this is working as intended. The parent and stream-list fields
>> are adjusted correctly.
>>
>> In my case, I sometimes wish to export and re-import a set of root
>> tiddlers and their stream nodes.
>> At that point, I can't just bulk select (check) all tiddlers (including
>> nodes) that start with the same title; a portion of those may actually now
>> belong to different root tiddlers (thus I don't want to import them).
>> Similarly, I can miss ones I should include because, whilst they are valid
>> node tiddlers, their name is not associated with what I am looking for in
>> the tiddler import dialog.
>>
>> So I need to more cleverly bulk export one or more root tiddlers with
>> their complete node hierarchy, regardless of title names, quite simply. I
>> don't believe this to be particularly challenging to be honest, so whenever
>> I need to do this, I should be able to do it smartly.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> On Fri, 25 Jun 2021 at 16:47, Saq Imtiaz  wrote:
>>
>>> @Fred could you please elaborate on what this side effect is that you
>>> mention?
>>>
>>> I my workflow, I treat them as sub-tiddlers really. You could say I
 replaced larger tiddlers with multiple headings with much smaller streams
 nodes (but not single line ones); main advantage is I can move nodes
 around, indent them, etc... and drag them from one tiddler to another
 (although I have recently noted this has an unfortunate side effect).
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
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[tw5] Re: Streams Plugin - Splitting text

[SteveH]

 Hi again,

I've  changed the settings to try using a word per:

Regular expression used to split text : /split/gi

- unfortunately can't get this to work.

Regards
hsteve



On Saturday, 26 June 2021 at 7:56:21 am UTC+10 SteveH wrote:

> Thank you Saq and Si for your help. Much appreciated.
>
> On Friday, 25 June 2021 at 10:47:21 pm UTC+10 Si wrote:
>
>> Hi hsteve. There are two ways to split text:
>>
>> 1. If you are editing a node and press enter, the stream will be split at 
>> the location of the caret/curser.
>> 2. If you are editing a node and press alt+enter, the text will be split 
>> at every place there is a new line.
>>
>> Note that /n/n is a regular expression that represents any new line. It's 
>> not something you have to actually add to the text.
>>
>> On Friday, 25 June 2021 at 12:27:04 UTC+1 SteveH wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> A basic question relating to text splitting within a single long text 
>>> tiddler.
>>>
>>> The plugin settings show 
>>>
>>>- Regular expression used to split text = /n/n
>>>- Split text at caret position
>>>
>>> Inserting /n/n/ or a claret didn't seem to work .  
>>>
>>> Looking for help here.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> hsteve
>>>
>>>
>>>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Artwork for v5.2.0

[TiddlyTweeter]

springer wrote *(my emphasis) ...*

>
> [image: fields-arial.png]
>
> Some considerations shaping this submission: 
>
> keeping filesize down (just under 28K as png w alpha; 14K as flat jpg), 
> staying visually "digestible" even at small size (while not overlapping the 
> caption-banner), gesturing towards one exciting new feature (opening up of 
> fieldname options). If our collective impulse is to celebrate 
> drag-and-drop, then I'd offer up the *"minimal oval"* design instead, 
> which includes both feature-gestures. 
>
> I'm not sure how to think about color scheme; it's clearly possible to 
> take nearly any design and adjust to nearly any palette. 
>
> If I were a wizard with svg, I'd try making a version that pulls colors 
> from the active palette. Even if that's not necessary for the official 
> version-release image, given its role at tiddlywiki.com, we all might 
> enjoy a tw image that "rolls" with changes in the palette. (Someone 
> —telmiger? — shared an svg tool that allowed pulling svg details from 
> fields -- that was lots of fun to play with!)
>

Right! Going SVG is ultra-fit for TW as so much of its UI is SVG. 
Here is probably not the right place to discuss this. It needs its own 
thread so it does not interfere with JR's need for a bitmap. 
BUT couple of pointers ...

The helpful Telmiger SVG tool for TW is at: https://tid.li/tw5/apps/svg.html

If you can stand open-ended discussion of the technical side of SVG join my 
discussions with Morosanue about optimizing use of his vast (40,000) SVG 
icon set in TW at: https://github.com/morosanuae/tw-icons/discussions/2

FYI you CAN convert PNG easily to SVG online BUT most of those online tools 
can only detect the SHAPE, not the COLOUR ...
Here is your original I converted to svg quickly online (monochrome 
outcome) ...

[image: test-small-svg-Screenshot 2021-06-26 093459.jpg]

If you wanna discuss details I'm happy to comment in a new thread.

Best wishes
TT 

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Re: [tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki SO cool ...

[TiddlyTweeter]

TW Tones wrote:

> TT: *Its sad we can't easily find wikis "in the wild." I don't actually 
> know what has been made!*
>
> I too would like to see more in the wild however for myself a lot of my 
> wikis are for personal organisation, and many are in different states of 
> completion. They are a work in progress ...
>

Absolutely! That would include 98% of mine too.

BUT what I was trying to get at was that in order to make a SHOWCASE of 
decent end-application wikis all we need is, say, 50+ doing 
different/diverse things.

So I meant finished operational wikis that the user simply, basically, 
maintains.
That could form a stable resource base within which new users can see the 
range of what can been achieved with TiddlyWiki.  

Hope this is clearer!
TT

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[tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki toolmap submissions

[oflg li]

Hi Dave,

I create a   plugin Fising 
 , a  plugin fishing tiddly with Anki 
 algorithm. 
Github repository : https://github.com/oflg/fishing.
Demo site oflg.github.io/fishing/

:)
在2018年2月7日星期三 UTC+8 上午10:24:27 写道：

> Hi all
>
> Tonight I finished going through the existing sites I know about and 
> adding entries to the TiddlyWiki Toolmap (
> https://dynalist.io/d/zUP-nIWu2FFoXH-oM7L7d9DM). Thank you, Jesus! Just 
> over 500 entries. From here on out it will just be a matter of maintaining 
> it. That seems to be the hard part: some of the sites I consulted had dead 
> links or hadn't been updated in a long time.
>
> *You can help me: *
>
> Please contact me either by replying to this thread or emailing me 
> directly at dgif...@crcna.org if:
>
> 1) you find items that are missing and ought to be on that list.
> 2) you find information that needs correcting - dead links, items that 
> would be better placed in a different category, items that need better 
> descriptions, etc (Josiah aka TiddlyTweeter has been helping me a lot with 
> this - thanks a bunch!)
> 3) you create a plugin, macro, theme, or adaptation of TiddlyWiki 5 that 
> you would like included. For example, since I started the toolmap, I have 
> been adding items I find here, like the new MyMenus. If you can tell me 
> what category it should go under, even better.
>
> *Two other favors I ask:*
>
> 1) Maybe the powers that be can pin this thread at the top of the Google 
> group as a reminder?
>
> 2) If you create a plugin, macro, theme, or adaptation, put something like 
> "Presenting" or "Introducing" or "New plugin" at the beginning of the 
> discussion thread, to clearly mark it so I will spot it when I check the 
> Google group, which I tend to do every 2-3 days.
>
> Thanks in advance for your help. Now go play with TiddlyWiki and come up 
> with some cool new stuff!
>
> Blessings,
>
> Dave Gifford
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: TW as static site generator in AWS lambda

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Hi Tones,

 Many thanks for sharing! Interesting!


Best wishes
Mohammad


On Sat, Jun 26, 2021 at 4:07 AM TW Tones  wrote:

> Mohammad,
>
> I was looking at AWS recently, but also thought I would make use of local
> storage and changes backup to make the hosted tiddlywiki not appear static.
>
> I discovered also through w3schools.com they now have "spaces", where you
> can also host wikis for free,
> the difference being the URL to your space eg; https://tones.w3spaces.com/
> is only resolved if you are logged in making it ideal for personal spaces.
>
> I have a workflow to commit changes to the wiki that accrue in local
> storage to the index.html all of which I can document in time.
>
> Regards
> Tones
>
> On Saturday, 26 June 2021 at 05:54:11 UTC+10 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> https://twitter.com/philwonski/status/1407419878588440577
>>
>> https://mydigitalmark.com/easily-build-static-html-sites-from-json-with-aws-lambda-and-tiddlywiki/
>>
>> [image: image.png]
>>
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
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