[tw5] Re: Exponentiation and Root in TiddlyWiki math operators

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

On Thursday, 1 October 2020 at 12:13:40 UTC+1 TW Tones wrote:

>  For more advanced maths consider Evans Formula plugin or other maths 
> plugins.
>

Funny enough that is exactly the one I am currently using since before 
formulas were introduced.
It has a few rough edges here and there that are expected from such complex 
plugins, but otherwise works fairly well.
Was just trying to get rid of it and simplify my setup by using native 
features without relying on external plugins, but I guess I'll have to keep 
using it.

Just though my limited skills were getting in the way, but glad I didn't 
miss anything.

Thanks for the clarification


 

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[tw5] Exponentiation and Root in TiddlyWiki math operators

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

Hi all.

I've been looking into getting more out of the recent math formulas feature 
in TiddlyWiki, but I've been unable to get any info about exponentiation.
Is it possible to calculate say the square of a number like 5^2 = 25 or the 
square root of 9 = 3?

There even seems to be an operator to write numbers in exponential 
notation, but no mention of powers, squares, roots or exponents in the 
documentation 

.

Seems like a glaring omission, was this overlooked, or are there any 
technical or performance limitations in including this?

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[tw5] Re: Italian Pasta - List of Pasta Varieties

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

Thanks guys, glad you like it.

On Friday, 10 July 2020 15:01:44 UTC+1, Wpq wrote:
>
> Since I have never really paid attention when travelling to Italy: do you 
> have a few, some, a majority, most or all of these in a typical (large) 
> supermarket?
>

Not being Italian I can't tell for sure, but I suspect many (probably most) 
of these are regional or home made traditional varieties, relatively 
obscure and localized.
Most are probably not something you'd be able to buy in a super market, 
probably not even in regional stores. Many of these were hard to find 
information even in the internet, and I suspect even most Italians nowadays 
aren't familiar with them.

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[tw5] Re: Italian Pasta - List of Pasta Varieties

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

Hey TW Tones, thanks for the feedback

On Friday, 10 July 2020 00:40:03 UTC+1, TW Tones wrote:

>  I love your zoom in to the picture, perhaps one day someone can click 
> through to the pasta in there?
>

Not sure if you missed it but labels are clickable in the fullscreen 
version of the chart . 
Unfortunately 
I am bound by my lack of skills with these things.
I could not get it to work in the zoomable version, having an SVG overlay 
prevents some mouse events, and moving the cursor away from the "minimap" 
generally misplaces the framed area making the experience unpleasant.

 

> I attached my simple tag pill enhancement. It allows you to open all 
> tagged, or close all tagged.
>

This is a pretty useful plugin, not just for end users, more as an actual 
convenience tool used during development. It would definitely have saved me 
a some time in the creation phase,
Hell I might use it myself on my personal wikis in the future.

Only suggestion is removing the hardcoded blue color for the *Open All 
Tagged* button. Just a matter of removing the fill=blue from 
$:/PSaT/open-all-tagged.
 

>
> I hope you achieve some sales through your amazon links but this also 
> prompts me to suggest allowing visitors to select items they want to try 
> and giving them something similar to a cart - perhaps just the favourites 
> plugin eg ajh/favorites or Mohammads 
> https://github.com/kookma/TW-Favorites
>

I'm having really mixed feelings about those adds, like all of you here I'm 
not at all a fan and they look quite intrusive.
It was more of a personal test to see how the system works and how easy it 
was to integrate them, I don't think it will never generate enough traffic 
to have any meaningful benefit. I might just remove them at some point.

And the future ? start to collect recipes that are typically used for each 
> pasta type. I had a close connection to an Italian family, making sauce, 
> pickled eggplant, black spaghetti and more.  The Italians seem to have 
> acquired some of the best food in the world and made it their own.
>

Those are actually quite good ideas. In the future I'd like to improve this 
with more information about where geographically each pasta comes from, 
improve the descriptions and details and like you mention common recipes or 
presentation suggestions.
 

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[tw5] Re: Italian Pasta - List of Pasta Varieties

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

Thanks guys glad you like it, hope I didn't make everyone too hungry.


On Thursday, 9 July 2020 17:45:19 UTC+1, Michael Wiktowy wrote:
>
> I am hesitant to mention a bug report after your description of the amount 
> of work to render it but ... Is there supposed to be two identical piles of 
> "Orzo, Risoni" in the bottom left row of your image map or (following the 
> pattern and knowing no Italian) is there such a thing as "Risini"?
>

Hey nice catch Mike glad you caught it, you guys really are paying 
attention :) Luckily it is just a mislabeling on the overlay, no need to 
re-render, though I would if it did.
Some shapes can have different names in different regions, likewise the 
same name can be used for different shapes too such is the case here. The 
lower right one is supposed to read *Risoni* only.

Fixed all instances of it, should be up now (may need a hard refresh). 
Thanks for the report, don't hesitate to point any others, I'll try yo fix 
all I can.

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[tw5] Re: [ Demo ] : floating editor toolbar

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

Count me in!

This is great! I know tiddlers are by definition meant to be atomic and 
short, but sometimes they do grow large and editing long texts make the 
default toolbar scroll ou of view.
While the default behavior still works by pressing hotkeys and even does 
scroll the popovers into view correctly this is much more convenient and 
makes editing a lot smoother and less jumpy.

The way I see it, the perfect behavior would be to eventually complement 
this with a "sticky" toolbar for selection independent tools that is always 
kept in view like the sticky titles option.

Great work this is fantastic.


On Wednesday, 8 July 2020 23:36:43 UTC+1, Mat wrote:
>
> Saq Imtiaz wrote:
>>
>> When early morning conference calls run too long, you get demos. 
>>
>
> @everybody - quicky, lets set up a lot of boring conference calls for Saq!
>

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[tw5] Re: Italian Pasta - List of Pasta Varieties

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

Thanks, glad you like it :)


On Thursday, 9 July 2020 12:25:57 UTC+1, Mat wrote:
>
> P.S the embedded image in your original post here is not showing for me.
>

Indeed I somehow messed it up, replaced it with a smaller local upload. 
Thanks for the headsup

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[tw5] Re: Local Search Engine - Passing search parameters from address bar

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

In the meantime I figured TiddlyWiki already filters system tiddlers out by 
default, so this could be made a little simpler. So for the record here is 
a canonical post gathering the whole procedure,

Lets say you have a wiki at D:/TiddlyWiki.html and need to search it 
frequently and conveniently from your browser address bar like you would 
using any regular web search engine.
As Riz mentioned you can use the Permalinks 
feature to pass down a *Story Filter* 
parameter directly from your address bar, that will determine which 
tiddlers are open on page load.

Since most browsers interpret %s string in a URL as placeholder that gets 
replaced by a user search terms, you can setup a search engine or bookmark 
with a name like My Wiki, address pointing to your wiki like 
file:///D:/TiddlyWiki.html#:[search[%s]] and keyword wiki.
If you then type into the address bar the keyword followed by a space then 
a search term like personal notes so that you end up with something like  
wiki personal notes it would then automatically resolve the address and 
take you to file:///D:/TiddlyWiki.html#:[search[personal notes]] .
This will effectively search you wiki for personal notes and open it 
already displaying a story river of open tiddlers containing your search 
term personal notes thus behaving similarly to a web search engine.

Don't literally enter  file:///D:/TiddlyWiki.html#:[search[%s]]  into the 
address bar as it will show a javascript error instead, if you need to just 
type directly you should replace %s with an actual term like file:
///D:/TiddlyWiki.html#:[search[my search terms]].

So all you need to setup either book or a search engine in your browser 
pointing to your wiki file with a valid %s placeholder and a keyword.
Under Chrome* go to Settings > Search Engines > Manage Search Engines and 
specify a keyword and a 



For Firefox alike go to the bookmark manager under the *Bookmark Menu > 
Show All*, and specify a keyword. You can also manage them for existing 
bookmarks from the right-clicking menu on any bookmark and accessing 
*Properties*.






Replace [search[%s]] with any valid TiddlyWiki Filter 
 you like to present relevant 
output for your needs.

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Re: [tw5] Re: Local Search Engine - Passing search parameters from address bar

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

Ha there it is. Not sure why it wasn't showing up in previous searches. 
Thanks, will take a look.

On Monday, 15 June 2020 15:09:45 UTC+1, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Hi Duarte,
>  have look at this discussion
>
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/BFiSyOpBNHA/GbLf7Tn3AgAJ
>
>
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 2:24 PM Duarte Farrajota Ramos <
> duarte...@gmail.com > wrote:
>
>> Where can I find this SearchWikis plugin? I searched the forum butt 
>> couldn't find anything relevant here or in the plugins library
>>
>> On Monday, 15 June 2020 04:01:52 UTC+1, Mohammad wrote:
>>>
>>> Wow, this is wonderful! Using Searchwikis plugin and this solution 
>>> provided by Duarte,
>>> you can have a powerful search engine for local wikis!
>>>
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>> Mohammad
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 10:17 PM Duarte Farrajota Ramos <
>>> duarte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The %s string is a common placeholder for search terms, not something 
>>>> you would enter literally into the address bar.
>>>> Say you setup a firefox bookmark with name My Wiki, address file:
>>>> ///D:/TiddlyWiki.html#:[!is[system]search[%s]] and alias wiki.
>>>> If you then type into the address bar the alias followed by a space 
>>>> then a search term like say  wiki personal notes it would then 
>>>> automatically resolve the address and take you to 
>>>> file:///D:/TiddlyWiki.html#:[!is[system]search[personal 
>>>> notes]] .
>>>>
>>>> If you literally type  file:
>>>> ///D:/TiddlyWiki.html#:[!is[system]search[%s]]  into the address bar 
>>>> it will apparently show a javascript error, if you want to just type 
>>>> directly you would have to actually write  
>>>> file:///D:/TiddlyWiki.html#:[!is[system]search[my 
>>>> search terms]] manually.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, 14 June 2020 06:36:24 UTC+1, A Gloom wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> For the record if anyone else wants to know how, you can simply add to 
>>>>> your browser something like
>>>>>
>>>>>> file:///D:/TiddlyWiki.html#:[!is[system]search[%s]]
>>>>>> and it will behave like any search engine. Works both for 
>>>>>> Chrome-alike as from the search engine list, and for Firefox as a 
>>>>>> regular 
>>>>>> bookmark with an alias.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> :[!is[system]search[%s]] gave mw a Javascript error but useing a 
>>>>> normal search term instead of % worked fine.
>>>>>
>>>>> An note to any one reading-- a lag before anythng displays is normal 
>>>>> when using a filter in the permalink.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This trick can also be used with Google docs and sheets (though not 
>>>>> tested with a local wiki): 
>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/dR8hVQYR2P8/QSLZB-HkDwAJ
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Re: [tw5] Re: Local Search Engine - Passing search parameters from address bar

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

Where can I find this SearchWikis plugin? I searched the forum butt 
couldn't find anything relevant here or in the plugins library

On Monday, 15 June 2020 04:01:52 UTC+1, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Wow, this is wonderful! Using Searchwikis plugin and this solution 
> provided by Duarte,
> you can have a powerful search engine for local wikis!
>
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 10:17 PM Duarte Farrajota Ramos <
> duarte...@gmail.com > wrote:
>
>> The %s string is a common placeholder for search terms, not something 
>> you would enter literally into the address bar.
>> Say you setup a firefox bookmark with name My Wiki, address file:
>> ///D:/TiddlyWiki.html#:[!is[system]search[%s]] and alias wiki.
>> If you then type into the address bar the alias followed by a space then 
>> a search term like say  wiki personal notes it would then automatically 
>> resolve the address and take you to 
>> file:///D:/TiddlyWiki.html#:[!is[system]search[personal 
>> notes]] .
>>
>> If you literally type  file:
>> ///D:/TiddlyWiki.html#:[!is[system]search[%s]]  into the address bar it 
>> will apparently show a javascript error, if you want to just type directly 
>> you would have to actually write  
>> file:///D:/TiddlyWiki.html#:[!is[system]search[my 
>> search terms]] manually.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, 14 June 2020 06:36:24 UTC+1, A Gloom wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> For the record if anyone else wants to know how, you can simply add to 
>>> your browser something like
>>>
>>>> file:///D:/TiddlyWiki.html#:[!is[system]search[%s]]
>>>> and it will behave like any search engine. Works both for Chrome-alike 
>>>> as from the search engine list, and for Firefox as a regular bookmark with 
>>>> an alias.
>>>>
>>>
>>> :[!is[system]search[%s]] gave mw a Javascript error but useing a normal 
>>> search term instead of % worked fine.
>>>
>>> An note to any one reading-- a lag before anythng displays is normal 
>>> when using a filter in the permalink.
>>>
>>>
>>> This trick can also be used with Google docs and sheets (though not 
>>> tested with a local wiki): 
>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/dR8hVQYR2P8/QSLZB-HkDwAJ
>>>
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[tw5] Re: Local Search Engine - Passing search parameters from address bar

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

On Chrom* go to *Settings > Search > Manage Search Engines*. Add a new one 
and specify the keyword

[image: tiddlywiki_chrome_search.png]


On Firefox go to the bookmark manager under the *Bookmark Menu > Show All*, 
and specify a keyword. You can also add a one on an existing bookmark from 
the menu by right-clicking on a bookmark and accessing properties.

[image: tiddlywiki_firefox_search.png]



On Monday, 15 June 2020 01:22:38 UTC+1, TW Tones wrote:
>
> Duarte,
>
> How do you specify the alias in chrome and/or FireFox. IF I understand 
> correctly this can be entered in the address bar and the value following 
> passed into the bookmark(lete) ?
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Monday, June 15, 2020 at 3:47:28 AM UTC+10, Duarte Farrajota Ramos 
> wrote:
>>
>> The %s string is a common placeholder for search terms, not something 
>> you would enter literally into the address bar.
>> Say you setup a Firefox bookmark with name My Wiki, address file:
>> ///D:/TiddlyWiki.html#:[!is[system]search[%s]] and alias wiki.
>> If you then type into the address bar the alias followed by a space then 
>> a search term like say  wiki personal notes it would then automatically 
>> resolve the address and take you to file:
>> ///D:/TiddlyWiki.html#:[!is[system]search[personal notes]] .
>>
>> If you literally type  file:
>> ///D:/TiddlyWiki.html#:[!is[system]search[%s]]  into the address bar it 
>> will apparently show a javascript error, if you want to just type directly 
>> you would have to actually write  
>> file:///D:/TiddlyWiki.html#:[!is[system]search[my 
>> search terms]] manually.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, 14 June 2020 06:36:24 UTC+1, A Gloom wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> For the record if anyone else wants to know how, you can simply add to 
>>> your browser something like
>>>
>>>> file:///D:/TiddlyWiki.html#:[!is[system]search[%s]]
>>>> and it will behave like any search engine. Works both for Chrome-alike 
>>>> as from the search engine list, and for Firefox as a regular bookmark with 
>>>> an alias.
>>>>
>>>
>>> :[!is[system]search[%s]] gave mw a Javascript error but useing a normal 
>>> search term instead of % worked fine.
>>>
>>> An note to any one reading-- a lag before anythng displays is normal 
>>> when using a filter in the permalink.
>>>
>>>
>>> This trick can also be used with Google docs and sheets (though not 
>>> tested with a local wiki): 
>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/dR8hVQYR2P8/QSLZB-HkDwAJ
>>>
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[tw5] Re: Local Search Engine - Passing search parameters from address bar

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

The %s string is a common placeholder for search terms, not something you 
would enter literally into the address bar.
Say you setup a firefox bookmark with name My Wiki, address file:
///D:/TiddlyWiki.html#:[!is[system]search[%s]] and alias wiki.
If you then type into the address bar the alias followed by a space then a 
search term like say  wiki personal notes it would then automatically 
resolve the address and take you to 
file:///D:/TiddlyWiki.html#:[!is[system]search[personal 
notes]] .

If you literally type  file:///D:/TiddlyWiki.html#:[!is[system]search[%s]]  
into the address bar it will apparently show a javascript error, if you 
want to just type directly you would have to actually write  
file:///D:/TiddlyWiki.html#:[!is[system]search[my 
search terms]] manually.




On Sunday, 14 June 2020 06:36:24 UTC+1, A Gloom wrote:
>
>
> For the record if anyone else wants to know how, you can simply add to 
> your browser something like
>
>> file:///D:/TiddlyWiki.html#:[!is[system]search[%s]]
>> and it will behave like any search engine. Works both for Chrome-alike as 
>> from the search engine list, and for Firefox as a regular bookmark with an 
>> alias.
>>
>
> :[!is[system]search[%s]] gave mw a Javascript error but useing a normal 
> search term instead of % worked fine.
>
> An note to any one reading-- a lag before anythng displays is normal when 
> using a filter in the permalink.
>
>
> This trick can also be used with Google docs and sheets (though not tested 
> with a local wiki): 
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/dR8hVQYR2P8/QSLZB-HkDwAJ
>

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[tw5] Re: Local Search Engine - Passing search parameters from address bar

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

Wow indeed! Wasn't aware of these extended permalink features, should have 
read the documentation more carefully.
This works like a charm, exactly what I wanted.

For the record if anyone else wants to know how, you can simply add to your 
browser something like
file:///D:/TiddlyWiki.html#:[!is[system]search[%s]]
and it will behave like any search engine. Works both for Chrome-alike as 
from the search engine list, and for Firefox as a regular bookmark with an 
alias.

Many thanks for the help, Riz, just what I was looking for.

On Thursday, 11 June 2020 15:24:45 UTC+1, Riz wrote:
>
> See https://tiddlywiki.com/#PermaLinks
>
> You can specify a filter in the URL. Since there is a search operator in 
> filters, you can actually pass search variable in URL to Tiddlywiki.
>
> Tiddlywiki has ton of functionality that is kinda hidden in Documentation.
>
>

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[tw5] Local Search Engine - Passing search parameters from address bar

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

I'd like to know if it is possible to use a local html wiki as some sort of 
local search engine?
What I mean is if it is possible to pass search terms using the %s 
placeholder like a regular search engine and have it passed to the wiki as 
input on the search field.

Currently one can pass parameters for tiddlers to open directly from the 
address bar with the hashtag symbol like D:/TiddlyWiki.html#SomeTiddler
It'd be great if one could similarly use something like 
D:/TiddlyWiki.html%SomeSearchString 
and have it somehow automatically fill the search filed or get it passed to 
$:/temp/search.

One could then save a browser bookmark or search engine pointing to D:/
TiddlyWiki.html%s and have it behave like a local search engine.
I'm aware there are currently no native features to support this, but is 
technically feasible or is there a way to do it with through some plugin?

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[tw] Re: Is decrypting tiddlers on Chrome for Android no longer supported?

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

So just for the record turns out it was probably either an issue with 
Chrome or perhaps with my custom ROM, I can now apparently successfully 
decrypt on Chromium based browsers.
Did a full system update again and it seems to be working as intended now, 
either the Chrom* issue was solved or the incompatibility with my ROM is 
gone.

Go figure... :)

On Tuesday, 11 July 2017 18:12:55 UTC+1, Duarte Farrajota Ramos wrote:
>
> So I recently bough a new Android phone with the latest 7.1.2, and was 
> happily gonna transfer my regular TiddlyWiki files into the new device. I 
> have always used AndTidWiki on my old phone (Android 5.0) without issues so 
> I was surprised to find that on the new device it could never decrypt any 
> password protected TiddlyWikis.
>
> I tried the default system browser, and many other browsers from the 
> Playstore and non work. I even tough I was somehow wrongly inputting my 
> password, but the only way I could still access my password protected TWs 
> in the new phone is through Firefox for Android (obviously Gecko based), 
> which points to something with Chromium/Blink render engine which is the 
> common point for all other browsers.
> I have tried opening from the SDCard, internal memory, or directly from 
> the web (just to rule that out) and no password protected TW5 ever opens, 
> it just fails silently as if the password is wrong,
>
> So is this a known issue, anyone else experiencing this problem? Is this 
> somehow a problem with Android security, or the Chrome/Blink engine itself, 
> or is it a TiddyiWiki incompatibility?
> Or is this just an issue specific to my phone/ROM?
>
> Any known way around it, or is there something I can do to help diagnose 
> the problem? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
>
>

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[tw] Re: Presenting my simple mobile layout...

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

That sounds lovely, especially the wishlist part :)
Great work, this will make my trip a lot more pleasant, many thanks

On Monday, 30 October 2017 17:35:35 UTC, JD wrote:
>
> Hello again, everyone. JD here.
>
> I've packaged the mobile layout into a plugin that can be turned on or off 
> at the Control Panel. 
>
> The demo site is now updated here: http://j.d.simplemobile.tiddlyspot.com/
>   
>
> Also, I'm very sorry to report this, but I spotted a few mistakes during 
> pre-packing review!!! (Also cleaned the tiddlers up a bit)
>
>- *$:/plugins/jd/mob/pagecontrols*
>   - There were missing ending brackets for the filters for Top Right 
>   Bar and Top Left Bar buttons (!!)
>   - Updated this to also show buttons tagged with 
>   *$:/jd/tags/mobbutton*
>- 
> *$:/plugins/jd/mob/button/lists *
>   - Now tagged with *$:/jd/tags/mobbutton* so it would show up at the 
>   Bottombar without needing a span class
>- *$:/plugins/jd/mob/Stylesheet/main*
>- Updated to remove now-unused span class
>- *$:/plugins/jd/mob/Stylesheet/scrollhide*
>- Corrected @media class 
>- *$:/plugins/jd/mob/Stylesheet/scrollshow*
>- Same as above
>- *$:/plugins/jd/mob/Stylesheet/searchfixed*
>- Same as above
>
> Sorry guys, apparently I had a lot of brain farts. 
>
> *Future plans:*
>
>- Adjustable font sizes for view title, view body, edit title, and 
>edit body (without affecting icon sizes)
>- Option for topbar with control buttons, including search and lists 
>menu buttons
>- Option to hide bottombar (in lieu of above)
>
> *Wishlist*
> (Unlikely to happen soon if I have to learn javascript for it)
>
>- Swipe from edge for sidebar lists
>- Topbar search hiding on scroll down, showing again on slight scroll 
>up (like with modern mobile browsers)
>
> So far, that's all. I shall now return to lurking. :)
>
>
> On Sunday, October 29, 2017 at 11:04:06 PM UTC+9, JD wrote:
>>
>> Hello everyone :)
>>
>> I've been lurking here for quite a while now, and only joined after 
>> finally having the guts to share with you my TW5 customization, demoed here:
>>
>> http://j.d.simplemobile.tiddlyspot.com/
>>
>> It's a mobile layout based on the looks of modern Android Chrome, which 
>> is what I usually browse with at night or during commute. 
>>
>> I know nothing beyond HTML and CSS, and as such, those are the only 
>> things I used with the layout. If there are better ways to go about what 
>> I've at the demo site, please let me know so I can update the affected 
>> tiddlers, and for my own improvement :)
>>
>> I'm actually kinda proud of it, please take a look around. 
>>
>

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[tw] Re: Presenting my simple mobile layout...

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

>
> Feature req: Can we have an option to display sidebar by swiping from 
> edges?
>

I'd second that very much, although I am assuming this is not trivial to 
implement. 

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[tw] Re: Presenting my simple mobile layout...

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

Hey man this is actually pretty good, much more functional on mobile than 
the default vanilla theme solution!
I've got a long trip coming up, gonna do a lot of tiddlywiki-ing on the 
move in a mobile in the coming weeks, this just came up with the most 
perfect timing!

Many thanks for sharing, definitely gonna give it a try.



On Sunday, 29 October 2017 14:04:06 UTC, JD wrote:
>
> Hello everyone :)
>
> I've been lurking here for quite a while now, and only joined after 
> finally having the guts to share with you my TW5 customization, demoed here:
>
> http://j.d.simplemobile.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> It's a mobile layout based on the looks of modern Android Chrome, which is 
> what I usually browse with at night or during commute. 
>
> I know nothing beyond HTML and CSS, and as such, those are the only things 
> I used with the layout. If there are better ways to go about what I've at 
> the demo site, please let me know so I can update the affected tiddlers, 
> and for my own improvement :)
>
> I'm actually kinda proud of it, please take a look around. 
>

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[tw] Re: Adding sources to tiddlers

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

On Thursday, 13 July 2017 03:07:52 UTC+1, Eric Shulman wrote:
>
>
> It is not necessary to modify the "list" field in $:/tags/ViewTemplate. 
>  Instead, in the tiddler that defines your new template content, just add a 
> field called "list-before", with a value of "$:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/body". 
>  Your template content will then appear before the body content instead of 
> following it.
>
> reference: http://tiddlywiki.com/#Order%20of%20Tagged%20Tiddlers
>

Ah yes good one, didn't know about that, I never figured what list-before 
was or how to use it :)

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[tw] Re: Adding sources to tiddlers

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

You will have to create a tiddler named $:/tags/ViewTemplate to override 
the default system one.
Copy from the original to be safe and then edit the list field at the 
bottom to reflect the desired order.

On Thursday, 13 July 2017 01:08:43 UTC+1, Matt wrote:
>
> This is great thank you.
>
> How would you make the {{!!source}} appear at the top of the tiddler 
> rather than the bottom?
>
> On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 5:44:25 PM UTC+1, Duarte Farrajota Ramos 
> wrote:
>>
>> Create a custom field named "source" or whatever suits your needs to 
>> place that kind of information in.
>> Then create a viewtemplate for tiddlers that have that field present so 
>> it is displayed along with the text.
>>
>> Just tag a new tiddler with $:/tags/ViewTemplate and add a filter along 
>> the lines of 
>> <$list filter="[all[current]has[source]]">
>> {{!!source}}
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, 11 July 2017 17:22:35 UTC+1, Matt wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello
>>>
>>> I have a number of tiddlers that I need to reference the source of the 
>>> information that they contain. Currently I have simply added the source to 
>>> the bottom of the text.
>>>
>>> This is OK but I have found in instances where I wish to transclude a 
>>> tiddler I usually don't want the source to appear alongside it.
>>>
>>> Does anyone know how I can solve this problem, or have an alternative 
>>> method for including sources and references?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance for your help.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[tw] Is decrypting tiddlers on Chrome for Android no longer supported?

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

So I recently bough a new Android phone with the latest 7.1.2, and was 
happily gonna transfer my regular TiddlyWiki files into the new device. I 
have always used AndTidWiki on my old phone (Android 5.0) without issues so 
I was surprised to find that on the new device it could never decrypt any 
password protected TiddlyWikis.

I tried the default system browser, and many other browsers from the 
Playstore and non work. I even tough I was somehow wrongly inputting my 
password, but the only way I could still access my password protected TWs 
in the new phone is through Firefox for Android (obviously Gecko based), 
which points to something with Chromium/Blink render engine which is the 
common point for all other browsers.
I have tried opening from the SDCard, internal memory, or directly from the 
web (just to rule that out) and no password protected TW5 ever opens, it 
just fails silently as if the password is wrong,

So is this a known issue, anyone else experiencing this problem? Is this 
somehow a problem with Android security, or the Chrome/Blink engine itself, 
or is it a TiddyiWiki incompatibility?

Any known way around it, or is there something I can do to help diagnose 
the problem?


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[tw] Re: Adding sources to tiddlers

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

Create a custom field named "source" or whatever suits your needs to place 
that kind of information in.
Then create a viewtemplate for tiddlers that have that field present so it 
is displayed along with the text.

Just tag a new tiddler with 
$:/tags/ViewTemplate
and add a filter alog the lines of 
<$list filter="[all[current]has[source]]">
{{!!source}}




On Tuesday, 11 July 2017 17:22:35 UTC+1, Matt wrote:
>
> Hello
>
> I have a number of tiddlers that I need to reference the source of the 
> information that they contain. Currently I have simply added the source to 
> the bottom of the text.
>
> This is OK but I have found in instances where I wish to transclude a 
> tiddler I usually don't want the source to appear alongside it.
>
> Does anyone know how I can solve this problem, or have an alternative 
> method for including sources and references?
>
> Thanks in advance for your help.
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: [tw] Re: TiddlyWiki StackExchange

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

On Wednesday, 7 June 2017 20:35:49 UTC+1, Mat wrote:
>
> Duarte - you seem to reply to my post, but what do you mean "reluctance"? 
> I informed that there was only one point more needed, and this was actually 
> after I voted yesterday and today re-positioned my votes so there was only 
> more vote needed, hence my message.
>

Apologies, I realized my mistake too late, I meant to reply to Josiah 

On Wednesday, 7 June 2017 20:16:24 UTC+1, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Ciao Duarte
> My concern with SE, is coming from now being in it. Its not what you would 
> call intuitive or in any way simple to get up and running. I'm clicking 
> around trying to work out WTF to do.
>

I don't find it confusing at all, In fact I don't think it can get any 
simpler than this. Post a question, wait for a reply, upvote, downvote, 
there is nothing complicated bout it, google alsi indexes pretty well 
making it easy to find relevant content.
Have in mind that this is an implementation phase, as A M Alfaro mentions 
running the regular website later will be a lot simpler and hassle free. It 
will also be easier to access (direct URL)  and probably have a cleaner UI 
with dedicated help sections, users list and shortcuts.

It is a tried and true method that has worked well for countless other 
sites,stack overflow and superuser probably representing the epitome of the 
system, and their success can't be denied. I am a frequent user of Blender 
Stack exchange and can say it has been a really pleasant experience. 
Addicting even!

Whether it will work well for TiddlyWiki or nor is another question 
entirely. I also have my doubts, mainly concerning the audience size, I 
fear there is not enough critical mass from raw user number, and from the 
point of view of proficient users capable of providing them with quality 
answers. Now don't get me wrong, I love this community, and wish only to 
see a tiddlywiki stack exchange success, but only time can tell if it can.

On Wednesday, 7 June 2017 22:12:57 UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> They explicitly disallowed social chat, asides, digressions; all the 
> ephemera that makes the community here so distinctive. I don't know if 
> those principles are still held so strictly, but it certainly remains a Q 
> site, and that is what it is good at. So, if it has a role for us, from the 
> community perspective, it is to supplement Google Groups by helping us 
> create and curate a body of useful Q exchanges.
>

 As Jeremy mentions stack exchange is pretty much Q focused only still; 
no opportunity for engaging in casual conversation like we do here, so even 
if it succeeds it will always serve as a complement to this site, never a 
replacement.

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Re: [tw] Re: TiddlyWiki StackExchange

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

There are absolutely no downsides, at worst case it wont work well, gets 
shut down, people will continue coming here like before.

If I recall correctly you were one the most vocal users here showing 
concern about Google Groups forums not being an adequate platform for 
knowledge base/Q, so I don't understand your reluctance now.
Only hypothetical problem I foresee is possible community fragmentation, 
but then again no one has to use Stack Exchange, and this forum is going 
nowhere if you prefer the format.

On Wednesday, 7 June 2017 19:51:33 UTC+1, Duarte Farrajota Ramos wrote:
>
> I think we made it for the proposal phase, got the email notification. YAY
> Now moving for the commitment phase.
>
> On Wednesday, 7 June 2017 18:21:37 UTC+1, Mat wrote:
>>
>> One measly vote on the question with 9 points is all that is left.
>>
>> This means if you've voted on anything that has >10 points, you can 
>> remove a point (by clicking that up arrow again, it's another color if 
>> you've voted on it) and insstead place it on that last question.
>>
>> <:-)
>>
>>

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Re: [tw] Re: TiddlyWiki StackExchange

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

I think we made it for the proposal phase, got the email notification. YAY
Now moving for the commitment phase.

On Wednesday, 7 June 2017 18:21:37 UTC+1, Mat wrote:
>
> One measly vote on the question with 9 points is all that is left.
>
> This means if you've voted on anything that has >10 points, you can remove 
> a point (by clicking that up arrow again, it's another color if you've 
> voted on it) and insstead place it on that last question.
>
> <:-)
>
>

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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki StackExchange

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

Ok, done. Hope it is approved. 

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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki StackExchange

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

Voted for these

>
>- Is there a recommended way of making TW use a "custom" favicon?
>- How do I create a global macro?
>- How do I display a custom field with a label only if the field is 
>added to the tiddler?
>- Can I place tiddlywiki widgets inside of a SVG object in a tiddler?
>- How can I add a wikiparser rule for managing indentation?
>
>
On Tuesday, 6 June 2017 18:07:34 UTC+1, Danielo Rodríguez wrote:
>
> Hello Duarte,
>
> Which questions have you voted ? I can't see any difference
>

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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki StackExchange

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

Voted! Would have sworn I already had.
May we have a nice Stack Exchange site

On Tuesday, 6 June 2017 16:59:35 UTC+1, Danielo Rodríguez wrote:
>
>
>
> El lunes, 23 de enero de 2017, 17:17:21 (UTC+1), Matthew Lauber escribió:
>>
>> Bumping this for people who may have missed it.  Go vote on your favorite 
>> questions, and let's get us a good place for QA.
>>
>> Matt
>>
>
> We are just 9 questions behind!!! Please go and vote! We are really close 
> to make it 
>

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[tw] Re: FF plugins future (was Vivaldi Browser - Shameless Publicity)

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

Maybe we can make a post over at Vivaldi forums see if they are somehow 
open to integrating some sort of saving mechanism or make their 
hypothetical downloads automation options play nice with TiddlyWiki.
I know this things are always a long stretch, developers are more than busy 
dealing with regular development and fixing bugs, but if enough people 
bother posting and to showing interest maybe we can gather enough critical 
mass.



On Thursday, 9 March 2017 14:46:40 UTC, Ákos Szederjei wrote:
>
> On Mittwoch, 8. März 2017 19:14:02 CET @TiddlyT weeter wrote: 
>
> > I think Mozilla are shooting themselves in the foot. Their lifeblood was 
> > extensions. And the future for TW auto-saving via browsers currently 
> looks 
> > fragile. 
>
> I think this a real issue here. I understand that it is a difficult one, 
> but 
> using TW without addon is a huge inconvenience. One one should either keep 
> TWDesktop going on all important platforms or resolve the plug-in issue if 
> possible (which seems not to be the case). 
>
> I am using TW on Linux quite often and for some Reason TWDesktop is not 
> working for me, and I cen tell you that it is much less fun to work with. 
> It 
> is a big deal from usability standpoint. Having the saving dialog pop up, 
> if 
> it can pop up at all, is a pain. 
> For this reason I worry about TW's future as Mozilla is switching to Web 
> Extensions. 
>
> My two eurocents... 
>
> Ákos 
>

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[tw] Re: Vivaldi Browser - Shameless Publicity

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

Those chrome extensions are great indeed. I am imagining it is something 
along the lines of Download Router Vivaldi will one day have built in.

Unfortunately those extensions don't work with Vivaldi, at least from my 
testing I could not get Downloads Router to work. Although it is mostly 
chromium based it probably introduces enough changes in the downloads area 
that breaks those.
Lets hope to see some improvements in that area in the future.

For now I just use it as I did in Firefox, I don't have a default save 
location and just manually browse to the required directory and overwrite 
the file.


On Wednesday, 8 March 2017 14:43:17 UTC, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Chrome has these file SAVING EXTENSIONS that may be relevant, if they work 
> in Vivaldi:
>
> *Downloads Overwrite Existing Files*: 
> https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/downloads-overwrite-exist/fkomnceojfhfkgjgcijfahmgeljomcfk
>
> *Downloads Router*: 
> https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/downloads-router/fgkboeogiiklpklnjgdiaghaiehcknjo
>
> What is really needed is a combination of the both in one. It would be a 
> close second to auto-save such as we have in Firefox via TiddlyFox.
>
> BTW, it was* Riz* who first alerted me to the Chrome extensions. There 
> may be more I don't know of.
>
> Best wishes
> Josiah
>
>
>

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[tw] Re: Vivaldi Browser - Shameless Publicity

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

Never noticed that bug, I do have a default path but set up, but set to always 
prompt for location. I'll do some testing. 

I think some sort of download location  filtering and wildcard automation is in 
the wishlist, if that ever gets implemented and works well with Tiddlywiki it 
may very well work as an automatic saver 

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[tw] Re: Vivaldi Browser - Shameless Publicity

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

The regular default saving mechanism by download works fine like in every 
other browser of course. Press save and download to a chosen location, or a 
default one automatically with incremental numbers.

I would love to see some sort cooperation between the two projects though, 
to maybe support some form of native saving. That would be heaven on earth.

On Tuesday, 7 March 2017 23:26:10 UTC, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Not at all? Not even with the default saving mechanism, which saves as a 
> download in the background? That would be pretty much a non-starter for 
> just about everyone, I would think.
>
> Thanks,
> Mark
>
> On Tuesday, March 7, 2017 at 10:01:22 AM UTC-8, Dragon Cotterill wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, 7 March 2017 17:51:00 UTC, David Szego wrote:
>>>
>>> Can you save TW files with the "Save" button?
>>>
>>
>> Sadly, no. 
>>
>

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[tw] Vivaldi Browser - Shameless Publicity

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

Hey guys have you heard about the Vivaldi browser ?
By searching here I only found a handful of fleeting mentions in the forum, 
mostly amidst troubleshooting posts, so I thought i'd make a more formal 
introduction.

Please forgive the shameless publicity (I am not affiliated with them in 
anyway, just a happy user); but being a Web Browser specifically targeted 
for power users I though it might please some of the folks here, since it 
seems to stand for some of the same principles TiddlyWiki does (like 
flexibility, privacy, configurability).




It was created as a followup to the late "classic" Opera Browser 12 
, by a team of some of the same developers 
. It is still in its infancy, occasional bugs, 
some rough edges here and there, but overall a great browser.
It is a Blink rendering engine based browser, using the Chromium base, it 
supports lost of the official Chrome extensions, and adds a layer of new 
features on top of that, with a beautifully designed UI to go along with it.
Some of the features that standout to me the most are:


   - Tileable tabs, side-by-side or vertically
   - Sidebar with tools and custom web-panels
   - Builtin mouse-gestures
   - Bookmark aliases or nicknames
   - Tab stacking
   - Customizable keyboard shortcuts
   - Builtin screenshot tool
   - And a lot more 

i'm particularly fond of tileable tabs, which allows me to easily compare 
between to pages, and the web panels where I like to keep an always open, 
easily accessible personal Notes TiddlyWiki file. Very convenient as a note 
taking tool.
A new fantastic History 

 
page is coming in the development snapshots too.

Why am I posting this here? Well seeing it is a free browser and money is 
made primarily from user searches I though I'd try and gather a few more 
users for them. More users means more money, more money means more 
developers which leads to a better browser which I happen to love.
In a land where the late trend is for minimal featureless striped down 
browsers, where more and more people flock to mobile devices, I though that 
this Vivaldi stood out in a positive way and might please the "power users" 
and more technically savvy people here since some of its features pair well 
with TiddlyWiki.

If you find this inappropriate feel free to close/block/ignore the thread, 
no harm intended :)

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[tw] TiddlyWiki 5 Style using local font file

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

After lots struggling, searching and researching, I finally found a working 
solution, which I am posting it here just for future reference to help out 
anyone who might want to do the same.

I have seen several posts here about using custom fonts under TiddlyWiki 5 
most focus on external third party font services like Google Fonts 
 or Font 
Awesome 
,
 
some try embedding custom 
 font 
files using base64 encodind 
 inside the 
tiddlywiki file.
All I wanted was a simple way to use a locally installed external font 
file, preferably using a basic relative path.

Just create a new tiddler with whatever name you want, tag it with 
$:/tags/Stylesheet 
and add the following content to it, customizing where necessary


@font-face {
font-family: myFontFamily;
src: url(Font_File.ttf);
}


.tc-title{
  color: red;
  font-family: "myFontFamily" , sans-serif;
}


Adjust the src: url() part to a path pointing to your ttf otf or woff file, 
and adjust .tc-title to style whatever part of the wiki you wish.

Hope this helps anywome in the future

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[tw] Re: Feature suggestion Editor Toolbar External Links and External Images button improvement

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

Yep that sentence sums it up perfectly, could not explain it better myself. ☺

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[tw] Re: Feature suggestion Editor Toolbar External Links and External Images button improvement

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

The text input box *is *meant to insert actual external images, say from 
http:// url or a local media with a relative or absolute path, *not *internal 
images with _canonical_uri 

Check the animated GIF in my previous post, or try it out from the attached 
example by creating a new tiddler and adding a new image from the toolbar 
button.
It just adds the image markup [img[]] around the inserted text in the 
dropdown

I did intend to make a filter like you describe, where the inserted text 
would have a double purpose. Iit filters the displayed images (like in the 
links dropdown) and can also be the URL for an external or no existent 
image tiddler



On Monday, 9 January 2017 19:59:22 UTC, Tobias Beer wrote:
>
> Hi Duarte,
>
> Ah, I thought your input was meant for entering and referencing an 
> external image, i.e. not a tiddler with *_canonical_uri*. I think I 
> misunderstood the purpose.
>
> If it's just meant to filter and reduce the list of available images to 
> click, then you don't quite need to add the image tag with the literal text 
> or when would you?
>
> At least what would be the benefit? to get some "raw" image wikitext 
> markup? Then I'd rather provide placeholders for classes or width, 
> tooltips, etc...
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Tobias. 
>

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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki StackExchange

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

As a frequent user of Blender Stack Exchange 
 I applaud the initiative. Will follow 
immediately :)

On Thursday, 22 December 2016 15:46:03 UTC, Arlen Beiler wrote:
>
> Given the general concensus, it seems, I've started a proposal at 
> StackExchange.
>
>
> http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/105326/tiddlywiki?referrer=kk4xS6VP59WB49QQOgt7xA2
>
> We need 60 people to follow the proposal, and 40 questions that have 10 
> upvotes on them to determine the scope of the site. We should cover 
> everything we reasonably can but we can always refine it later. 
>
> So follow, and then vote up questions that you think fit the scope of the 
> site. You can only give so many votes. If a question has 10 votes, don't 
> waste your votes on it. Find another good example question. Down voting is 
> not really necessary unless a question has more than 5 votes and you do not 
> think it should be on the site.
>
> Also, these are example questions, don't worry about answering them. 
>
> Feel free to add your comments on here, or discuss the proposal on the 
> page. We don't need to do this real fast, we can discuss it along the way. 
>
> Most of the technical questions on here can be discussed on the new 
> StackExchange. 
>
> Oh, wait, do we want to call it something else while we are at it? 
> Remembering the thread about various oddities with the name.
>
> -Arlen
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Re: [tw] Re: Change default behavior to recognize single line breaks

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

Is there any way to make the """.""" work for transclusions?

I have several tiddlers in wish I would like to includesome fields content; 
I currently end up using bullet points as a quick way to make hard line 
breaks, but being able to do so automatically would save a whole lot of 
trouble.
I can't seem to make """{{!!Field_Name}}""" work unfortunately, it wont 
propagate the effect into the transclusion. Any workarounds or is it a 
limitations of the current system?

On Monday, 26 May 2014 19:58:45 UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Hi Chashaku
>
> The current behaviour follows standard MarkDown. There is a ticket for 
> adding support for GitHub Flavoured MarkDown, a variant dialect of MarkDown 
> that supports single line breaks as hard line breaks:
>
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/443
>
> My plan is to fix this as part of an upcoming round of changes to the 
> parsing infrastructure, perhaps for 5.0.13 or 5.0.14.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
>
> On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 7:08 PM, chishaku  
> wrote:
>
>> Forgot to mention that I'm using TW5.
>>
>>
>> On Friday, May 23, 2014 2:05:32 PM UTC-4, chishaku wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Is it possible to change the default behavior to recognize single line 
>>> breaks?
>>>
>>> I know that I can use the """ ... """ syntax for hard line breaks in 
>>> wikitext but if possible, I'd like to reverse the behavior so that single 
>>> line breaks are recognized by default and perhaps I could use the """ ... 
>>> """ syntax to ignore single line breaks.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>>
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[tw] Re: Feature suggestion Editor Toolbar External Links and External Images button improvement

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

After another multi-round fight and lots of sweat and tears I finally 
managed to make the external images button in the Editor Toolbar allow 
inserting external images by writing or pasting their URL.


Created a pull request here 
https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/2548 
Again not sure if it is over complicated or  totally correct codewise, but 
could not make it work without so many macros. It may need a few language 
hints

Here it is in action

<https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-WD3W_JDfIW0/V7rwTcSyGTI/Qo8/7WAE0GcB8SkgOKqm9uECH9NVHthtLy_9ACLcB/s1600/TiddlyWiki_ExternalImage.gif>

Ideally the text box would also allow filtering or searching the internal 
image tiddlers displayed in the list bellow, just like the links button 
dropdown currently, but I'll just leave it as a hint for Jeremy as a 
possible future improvement, since that is way above my skill level.

Hope you guys find this useful.


On Sunday, 7 August 2016 14:48:21 UTC+1, Duarte Farrajota Ramos wrote:
>
> It seems Jeremy liked it enough, a commit has been submitted 
> <https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/2521#issuecomment-238072286> 
> that includes this feature :)
> This also allows linking to non existing tiddlers too.
>
> I will try again my luck with inserting external images too in the next 
> few days. I'll post any results if I am successful.
>
> Thanks Jeremy
>
> On Wednesday, 3 August 2016 19:26:56 UTC+1, Duarte Farrajota Ramos wrote:
>>
>> Ah nice one, was wondering if one could submit the code somewhere, but 
>> you already did it, so I thank you for that.
>> I urge you to look at the code though, to see if it could be improved, as 
>> I said my coding skills are non-existant
>>
>> Anyway I was plugging away at the external image feature, but could not 
>> do it myself. I may try again but I fear it's way above me.
>>
>> On Wednesday, 3 August 2016 12:57:14 UTC+1, PMario wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, August 2, 2016 at 9:38:13 PM UTC+2, Duarte Farrajota Ramos 
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> So eventually I'd like to do something similar for external images too, 
>>>> possibly combined with the existing insert image button or even as a 
>>>> different one, but I fear my ineptitude may get in my way. I will try it 
>>>> again later tonight, but it may well be far above my copy-pasting skills.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, what do you guys think, is this worth it, is it useful?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Well done! Looks good to me and seems to be very useful!
>>>  
>>>
>>>> Jeremy would you consider including something vaguely like this in any 
>>>> future release? Perhaps even as a different button, or combined with the 
>>>> current ones?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Would be worth a new feature request. .. 
>>> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/2521 ... you can create 
>>> them yourself ;)
>>>
>>> have fun!
>>> mario
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>

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[tw] Re: ⁂ Need pretty face for TWederation

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

>
> (Is my interpretation of your statement above correct?)
>

Yes it is, that is what I meant. As you said, I don't think it i a problem 
in itself. Either the user gets used to, or TiddlyWiki is flexible enough 
to eventually be bent into looking however one likes. When the time comes 
and twederation matures i'm sure some UI work will eventually be done and 
those problems will be gone one way or another.

The tabs seem a lot cleaner now.

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[tw] Re: ⁂ Need pretty face for TWederation

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

This seems to be going in the right direction, it has already improved 
considerably.

Most of the problems I see probably stem from the simple fact that all of 
this "looks non standard" visually speaking, as it currently stands. Not in 
a negative way, it's just that if a forum "looks" remotely like a regular 
forum UI to a regular user, there's less explanation that needs to be done, 
or if an encyclopedia as the appearance of one, the user will feel right at 
home.

TWCards probably needs some explanation of what they are. I am guessing 
they are some sort of avatar, or perhaps some pre-made tiddlers conforming 
to some standardized pre-defined set of standard fields?
TiddlyPedia also probably needs some better explaining of what it is. I am 
guessing a breed between a Wikipedia and some sort of forum.
I am guessing "Dictionary" could be part of Tiddlypedia?

Other than that it seems to be just a mater of wording to make it seem less 
cryptic and daunting to newcomers and end users.

On Friday, 19 August 2016 17:29:19 UTC+1, Mat wrote:
>
> Thanks for input again Josiah. You're not at all coming across as 
> negative, you're rightfully wondering of what use it will be. I believe 
> this will become clearer as we proceed. Thanks to your and others input I'm 
> understanding how abstract it all still is. But considering how even I must 
> still ask the Jedi very fundamental questions every now and then, I can 
> definitely understand how it takes a while before people "see the light".
>
> Keep the font-page ideas coming!
>
> <:-)
>

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[tw] Re: ⁂ Need pretty face for TWederation

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

Well then back to the matter at hand. I'd say that, as an end user and for 
regular everyday users, the most important for your front page presentation 
would be, by this specific order:

What is it? > Possible Applications > How it Works > Get started

It should all be worded simply and very clearly, no ambiguous meanings, no 
complicated formatting, minimal visual noise, and no technical info until 
needed.


   - What is it?
  - Basic description of what it is worded simply worded, no fluff or 
  complicated technical info, something along the lines of:
  - A way for your* regular browser based TiddlyWiki* file to *fetch 
  remote content* from other TiddlyWikis, *stored locally, or on the 
  web*.
  - (Very clearly and straight to the point,in a end user point of 
  view, no technical info or details about it works or how to install)
  - Possible applications
  - Distributed Discussion Forums
  - RSS-like news feeds
  - Distributed Comments System
  - Collaborative documentation
  - Plugins library with automatic update system
  - Totally flexible, open ended and customizable
  - Can be used for any other application that benefits from 
  collaboration, third party content, or remotely fetched data
  - (No technical info about editions or how it all works, maybe each 
  use with link to a live working example)
  - How it works
  - (?) Install a plugin in your regular wiki
  - Configure it to fetch content from other wiki (by URL, locally, ?)
  - Filter desired content by filters
  - How does announcing new reachable content works
  - No infrastructures (servers, or backend) required
   - Getting started
  - Actual downloads and edition information
  - Steps to proceed with installation
  - Possibly tutorial video mentioned above goes here
   
Not sure if my description is totally accurate from a technical point of 
view, as I said before my understanding is still limited, but I expect your 
valuable input and technical inside knowledge to correct me where I'm 
wrong. Bottom line is the where each type of info belongs.

All this could then be dotted with some simple infographics replacing text 
here and there where needed, to better present the data in a more friendly 
or graphical way.


Maybe in a lightweight TiddlyWiki friendly vector format like SVG

On Thursday, 18 August 2016 23:01:31 UTC+1, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> Answers in order:
>
> All you need is somewhere you can host the html file, dropbox or any other 
> file server works (or tiddlyspot, or your own hosting space). You don't 
> need to think about CORS or back-end/server-side things.
>
> The simple answer is that tiddlers are fetched by filter, so you get what 
> you ask for using a filter.
>
> At the moment it is in development, but it can in theory be added to any 
> wiki. If you are going to play with it you should just use the edition at 
> ooktech.com/jed/Examplewikis/TWederation for now because there are a 
> bunch of things that can break if you try to add it to an existing wiki.
>

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[tw] Re: ⁂ Need pretty face for TWederation

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

Are you talking specifically about aesthetics and visual appearance of the 
front page?
Are you looking for pretty graphics or an appealing front page?

Maybe what you need are some images, or perhaps a strong logo or 
infographic for the front page.

I have to admit I am also still a bit in the dark as how all this works and 
how to use it/set it up, so I guess I am one of he persons who would 
benefit from more thorough info.

If you could lay down the specifics that you want, and set up a list of 
requirements or important topics that must be mentioned, then maybe you 
could hold some sort of contest or competition to design some graphics for 
the front page, like the one held a while back for the TiddlyWiki community 
poster.


On Wednesday, 17 August 2016 21:12:27 UTC+1, Mat wrote:
>
> Mark, you know I really appreciate your input - but this particular thread 
> is only about what is needed for a great "front page 
> ".
> The particular issue you bring up is probably a @Jed matter as he is the 
> creator and expert on those particular components.
>
> <:-)
>
>
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[tw] Re: How to get save to use same filename?

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

If you don't mind a thirdparty addon based  solution you may look into the 
Downloads 
Router 

It allows setting personalized folders on a per-rule basis. You could set 
your TiddlyWiki to always save to a specific folder that way

On Saturday, 6 August 2016 23:42:59 UTC+1, Chris Jordan wrote:
>
> Thanks Jeremy and Eric.
>

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[tw] Re: Feature suggestion Editor Toolbar External Links and External Images button improvement

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

It seems Jeremy liked it enough, a commit has been submitted 
<https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/2521#issuecomment-238072286> 
that includes this feature :)
This also allows linking to non existing tiddlers too.

I will try again my luck with inserting external images too in the next few 
days. I'll post any results if I am successful.

On Wednesday, 3 August 2016 19:26:56 UTC+1, Duarte Farrajota Ramos wrote:
>
> Ah nice one, was wondering if one could submit the code somewhere, but you 
> already did it, so I thank you for that.
> I urge you to look at the code though, to see if it could be improved, as 
> I said my coding skills are non-existant
>
> Anyway I was plugging away at the external image feature, but could not do 
> it myself. I may try again but I fear it's way above me.
>
> On Wednesday, 3 August 2016 12:57:14 UTC+1, PMario wrote:
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 2, 2016 at 9:38:13 PM UTC+2, Duarte Farrajota Ramos 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> So eventually I'd like to do something similar for external images too, 
>>> possibly combined with the existing insert image button or even as a 
>>> different one, but I fear my ineptitude may get in my way. I will try it 
>>> again later tonight, but it may well be far above my copy-pasting skills.
>>>
>>> Anyway, what do you guys think, is this worth it, is it useful?
>>>
>>
>> Well done! Looks good to me and seems to be very useful!
>>  
>>
>>> Jeremy would you consider including something vaguely like this in any 
>>> future release? Perhaps even as a different button, or combined with the 
>>> current ones?
>>>
>>
>> Would be worth a new feature request. .. 
>> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/2521 ... you can create 
>> them yourself ;)
>>
>> have fun!
>> mario
>>
>>  
>>
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[tw] Re: Set default color of tags

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

Settings > Appearance > Palette > Show Editor (at the bottom) > (Search 
for) Tag background
Either modify the current palette or create your own with custom colors you 
can export.

On Thursday, 4 August 2016 02:07:27 UTC+1, Thomas Schulte wrote:
>
> It seems the default color of tags is yellow. Is there any way to change  
> the default color to black so I don't have to manually reset the color of 
> each using tagmanager?
>

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[tw] Re: Feature suggestion Editor Toolbar External Links and External Images button improvement

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

Ah nice one, was wondering if one could submit the code somewhere, but you 
already did it, so I thank you for that.
I urge you to look at the code though, to see if it could be improved, as I 
said my coding skills are non-existant

Anyway I was plugging away at the external image feature, but could not do 
it myself. I may try again but I fear it's way above me.

On Wednesday, 3 August 2016 12:57:14 UTC+1, PMario wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, August 2, 2016 at 9:38:13 PM UTC+2, Duarte Farrajota Ramos 
> wrote:
>>
>> So eventually I'd like to do something similar for external images too, 
>> possibly combined with the existing insert image button or even as a 
>> different one, but I fear my ineptitude may get in my way. I will try it 
>> again later tonight, but it may well be far above my copy-pasting skills.
>>
>> Anyway, what do you guys think, is this worth it, is it useful?
>>
>
> Well done! Looks good to me and seems to be very useful!
>  
>
>> Jeremy would you consider including something vaguely like this in any 
>> future release? Perhaps even as a different button, or combined with the 
>> current ones?
>>
>
> Would be worth a new feature request. .. 
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/2521 ... you can create 
> them yourself ;)
>
> have fun!
> mario
>
>  
>

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[tw] Re: Help

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

Well it seems Sérgio doesn't speak Portuguese much better than he speaks 
English... :)  He simple states:

One tiddler with four columns "All Items", "Pending", "To-Do" and "Done"
>
Use a checkbox to distribute the lists. Printscreen attached.
>

So we are left wondering with what he wants. If the problem is just the 
formatting, I don't know much of CSS to solve the problem correcly. Simply 
adding a  at the end before the body close tag  seems to kinda 
fixe it, at least when the sidebar is expanded. Collapsing it makes it go 
beyond the tiddler again

Parece que o Sérgio não fala mais Português que Inglês... :) Continuo sem 
perceber o que pretende.
Se é um problema de formatação com o conteúdo a expandir para além do 
tiddler, eu não percebo muito de CSS, não sei resolver o problema 
correctamente, mas a simples adição de um  antes da tag  
parece resolver o problema, pelo menos enquanto a sidebar está escondida, 
expandi-la parece revelar de novo o problema.






On Wednesday, 3 August 2016 17:16:17 UTC+1, Stephen Kimmel wrote:
>
> It looks like Sergio is seeing a formatting/styling issue here. He's gone 
> to some lengths to style five boxes but they go beyond the limits of the 
> tiddler. The Doing, Done and Footer boxes are covered up by the next 
> tiddler. 
>
> I think if someone could show him how to style his "ToDo" tab so that 
> everything would be inside, it would be a step in the right direction.
>
>
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[tw] Re: Help

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

Português? Não é claro o que pretende fazer, pode clarificar?

Portuguese? It's not very clear what you want to do, could you clarify?

On Wednesday, 3 August 2016 03:40:46 UTC+1, Sergio Rolim wrote:
>
>  I do not speak english, help me please.
>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> .box1 {width:200px; height:30px;display:inline;
> -moz-border-radius: 10px;
> border-radius: 10px;
> margin:0.1em 0.1em ; 
> padding:0.35em 3em;
> background-color:#ececec;
> float:left;}
>
> .box {width:1005px; height:100px;display:inline;
> -moz-border-radius: 10px;
> border-radius: 10px;
> margin:0.1em 0.1em ; 
> padding:0.35em 3em;
> background-color:#ececec;
> float:left;}
>
>
> #int{float:left;}
> #divum   {width:250px;height:500px;background-color:gray;padding: 0.35em 
> 3em;-moz-border-radius:10px;border-radius:10px;margin:0.1em 0.1em 0.3em 
> auto;float:left}
> #divdois {width:250px;height:500px;background-color:gray;padding:0.35em 
> 3em;-moz-border-radius:10px;border-radius:10px;margin:0.1em 0.1em 0.3em 
> auto;float:left;}
> #divtres {width:250px;height:500px;background-color:gray;padding:0.35em 
> 3em;-moz-border-radius:10px;border-radius:10px;margin:0.1em 0.1em 0.3em 
> auto;float:left;}
> #divqua  {width:250px;height:500px;background-color:gray;padding:0.35em 
> 3em;-moz-border-radius:10px;border-radius:10px;margin:0.1em o.1em 0.3em 
> auto;float:left;}
> 
>
> 
> 
> All Itens
> ! Outstanding tasks
>
> <$list filter="[!has[draft.of]tag[task]!tag[done]sort[created]]">
>
> <$checkbox tag="done"> <$link to={{!!title}}><$view 
> field="title"/>
>
> 
>
>
>  
>
> 
>Pendencies
> 
>
> 
>Doing 
>! Em curso
>
> <$list filter="[!has[draft.of]tag[task]tag[done]sort[created]]">
>
> <$checkbox tag="Fazendo"> ~~<$link to={{!!title}}><$view 
> field="title"/>~~
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
> 
> Done
>   ! Completed tasks
>
> <$list filter="[!has[draft.of]tag[task]tag[done]sort[created]]">
>
> <$checkbox tag="done"> ~~<$link to={{!!title}}><$view 
> field="title"/>~~
>
> 
>
>  
>   
>
> Footer
> 
> 
>

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[tw] Feature suggestion Editor Toolbar External Links and External Images button improvement

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

Ok, after furiously fighting with my lack of skills for quite a while I 
finally made it. I have absolutely no scripting skills an no programming 
knowledge,so I am sure this not at all the correct way to do it and there 
are probably lots of mistakes and inneficiencies, but please bear with me.

So after using the fantastic new 5.1.13 for a while I am *absolutely loving* 
the new WikiText toolbar it is fantastic! Two small things have been 
frustrating me, though: the lack of ability to easily add external links, 
or the lack of ability to easily add external images.
So after some fumbling around I came up with this suggestion that I would 
eventually like to see in a future release of TiddlyWiki allowing adding 
external links using the same exact toolbar button and with only a few 
modifications to the dropdown tiddler in parallel to internal tiddlers.

So basically I modified the default $:/core/ui/EditorToolbar/link-dropdown 
tiddler to include an additional button that basically lets you insert 
whatever search string you are using as a link URL. Normally this would be 
restricted to internal tiddler links from the list bellow, but this one 
allows pasting or introducing any URL in the text box to use as link URL.

So basically I add a define a new button as a macro and then call it later, 
so we end up with a link dropdown tiddler 
$:/core/ui/EditorToolbar/link-dropdown that looks like

\define lingo-base() $:/language/Buttons/Link/

\define link-actions()
<$action-sendmessage
$message="tm-edit-text-operation"
$param="make-link"
text={{$(linkTiddler)$}}
/>

<$action-deletetiddler
$tiddler=<>
/>

<$action-deletetiddler
$tiddler=<>
/>

<$action-deletetiddler
$tiddler=<>
/>
\end

\define external-link()
<$button class="tc-btn-invisible" style="width: auto; display: 
inline-block; background-colour: inherit;">
<$action-sendmessage $message="tm-edit-text-operation" $param="make-link" 
text={{$(searchTiddler)$}}
/>
{{$:/core/images/chevron-right}}
<$action-deletetiddler
$tiddler=<>
/>

<$action-deletetiddler
$tiddler=<>
/>

<$action-deletetiddler
$tiddler=<>
/>

\end


\define body(config-title)
''<>''

<$vars searchTiddler="""$config-title$/search""" linkTiddler=
"""$config-title$/link""" linktext="" >

<$edit-text tiddler=<> type="search" tag="input" focus="true" 
placeholder={{$:/language/Search/Search}} default=""/>
<$reveal tag="span" state=<> type="nomatch" text="">
<>
<$button class="tc-btn-invisible" style="width: auto; display: 
inline-block; background-colour: inherit;">
<$action-setfield $tiddler=<> text="" />
{{$:/core/images/close-button}}



<$reveal tag="div" state=<> type="nomatch" text="">

<$linkcatcher actions=<> to=<>>

{{$:/core/ui/SearchResults}}







\end

<$macrocall $name="body" config-title=<>/>


While editing it functionally becomes like this:










So eventually I'd like to do something similar for external images too, 
possibly combined with the existing insert image button or even as a 
different one, but I fear my ineptitude may get in my way. I will try it 
again later tonight, but it may be above my copy-pasting skills

Anyway, what do you guys think, is this worth it, is it useful?
Jeremy would you consider including something like this in a future 
release? Perhaps as a different button, or combined with the current ones?

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Re: [tw] TiddlyWiki 5 European Portuguese pt_PT Translation

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

Nice one, thanks Jeremy

On Monday, 25 July 2016 09:33:04 UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Hi Duarte
>
> Thanks, that’s great, I’ve merged your updates here:
>
>
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/commit/65a5135245891acd6b4fdc85bf95b81307d97b81
>
> The updates will be included in 5.1.13 which I shall be releasing shortly.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
> On 25 Jul 2016, at 02:33, Duarte Farrajota Ramos <duarte...@gmail.com 
> > wrote:
>
> Hey Jeremy
>
> It's been a while since I last updated the translations, there have been 
> lots of features and changes to TiddlyWiki in the meantime. Lots of new 
> awesome features and tools added so this was in dire need of an update.
>
> Here is a revised Portuguese translation with added missing strings for 
> new features and tools and updated some older ones.
>
> Let me know if something is missing or can be improved, maybe this can be 
> included for the next release, thanks
> Duarte
>
> On Sunday, 8 February 2015 19:31:28 UTC, Duarte Farrajota Ramos wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for the fix Jeremy , looking forward to the new 5.1.8
>
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[tw] Re: [TW5] Announcing TiddlyWiki v5.1.12

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

Many many thanks for this release Jeremy, it's a HUGE step forward for 
TiddlyWiki!
Great work, and congratulations on the release, to you and all the generous 
contributors!

Can't wait to give it a try later tonight, that editor toolbar looks just 
awesome, and so does the new image editor!

On Wednesday, 13 July 2016 12:04:57 UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> I'm delighted to announce that TiddlyWiki version 5.1.12 has finally been 
> released to:
>
> http://tiddlywiki.com/
>
> Remember to keep careful backups before upgrading existing 5.x.x wikis at:
>
> http://tiddlywiki.com/upgrade.html
>
> This is a much bigger release than usual:
>
> * New text editor toolbars
> * New bitmap editor toolbars with usable drawing tools
> * Upgraded KaTeX and CodeMirror plugins
> * Experimental Evernote import by dragging .enex files
> * Added a bulk delete button to advanced search "Filter" tab
> * Introduction of the new WikifyWidget
> * New "internals" plugin that allows results of parsing and rendering to 
> be previewed
> * Many bug fixes
>
> See the release note at http://tiddlywiki.com/#Release%205.1.12 for more 
> details.
>
> Once again, this release has more contributors than ever before, including 
> quite a few first time contributors. My sincere thanks to everyone for 
> their help. 
>
> As usual, feedback and questions are gratefully received.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
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[tw] Re: Google Groups is a somewhat UNWIELDY instrument ....

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

Sounds quite fantastic, almost like a peer-to-peer collaborative 
decentralized wiki sort of thing. Thanks for the explanation.
Hope it someday becomes usable in the grand scheme of things

On Thursday, 23 June 2016 02:56:47 UTC+1, Mark S. wrote:
>
> The google groups doesn't seem any worse than the other alternatives, and 
> probably not as prone to hi-jacking as  the self-served packages. The main 
> problem is that TWC and TW5 conversations are mixed. Also, and I hope 
> someone could prove me wrong, there's no way to filter your search results 
> by users (except yourself). My approach is to do a search and sort by date 
> so that the newest stuff comes up on top. 
>
> Part of the reason that the wheel gets re-invented so many times, is that 
> someone keeps changing the lug bolts on the wheel. 
>
> Twederation seems to be a long way off, though it seems the core 
> technology -- pulling from other TW's, is working. If you try it, you'll 
> see the problems. You don't have to have a hosted account to pull from 
> other members. There are additional complications that pages hosted on http 
> sites can't pull from https sites (or is it the other way around?). 
>
> Twederation (TWED), as I understand it, is a collection of TW pages, each 
> of which is hosted by it's own master somewhere out there on the web. Each 
> individual will "pull" content from other members of the  Twederation, 
> including content that that member has pulled from other members. So the 
> system, in theory, is highly distributed. The only special member will be 
> the main host, who is responsible for maintaining the master list of TWED 
> members. If you are not on that list, then you can still pull from other 
> members, but they are unlikely to pull from your content since they won't 
> know where you are. It's a little unclear to me why any member of the TWED 
> couldn't create a new card for a new member and thus start their TWED 
> participation. Actually, the central host is something of a  weakness, if 
> you wanted a system that was hard to suppress and that could keep on 
> working in the absence of a given "disappeared" individual.
>
> Mark
>
> On Wednesday, June 22, 2016 at 4:25:15 PM UTC-7, Duarte Farrajota Ramos 
> wrote:
>>
>> Just to make it clear it's not that I'm particularly fond of Google 
>> groups, it's just "good enough". As a tool it works fairly well but it's 
>> not extraordinarily remarkable or efficient.
>> It feels kind of buggy at times and stagnated, I think google hasn't 
>> updated it in ages and it feels abandoned. I just think the benefits of 
>> moving haven't outweighed the trouble of migrating *yet.*
>>
>> As for TWederation I have only been to the forums very superficially 
>> lately; I've heard the term thrown around several times but didn't quite 
>> grasp the whole concept behind it.
>> From what I gathered it's about "federation" right? As in show external 
>> content from other sources (possibly other TiddlyWikis?) under the same 
>> host wiki, am I right?
>>
>> Kind of like the plugins library architecture currently works, if I am 
>> not mistaken? Is that it or am I far off?
>> Anyone care to explain in few words what it is? Genuinely curious.
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, 23 June 2016 00:13:23 UTC+1, Josiah wrote:
>>>
>>> Ciao Mat
>>>
>>> I seen activity on TWFederation. I have NO idea what it is exactly. I do 
>>> notice its a sweet-point with promise.
>>>
>>> HOW will it benefit a normal user?
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>> Josiah
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, 23 June 2016 00:10:56 UTC+2, Mat wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The only realistic option I can imagine is TWederation. By "only 
>>>> realistic" I mean that even if there are other solutions, there is not 
>>>> enough incentive to switch to those whereas TWederation is of interest for 
>>>> many other TW-matters and communication-within-TW matters.  I think 
>>>> TWederation will partly replace the google groups but it will likely be a 
>>>> bit too "odd" for beginners to dive into immediately and so this google 
>>>> group will likely remain. Hopefully we'll get the UI good enough so that 
>>>> it'll be more and more useful.
>>>>
>>>> Do help along with TWederation if you care about the matter :-)
>>>>
>>>> <:-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, June 22, 2016 at 1:37:32 PM UTC+2, Josiah wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Ciao all
>

[tw] Re: Google Groups is a somewhat UNWIELDY instrument ....

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

Just to make it clear it's not that I' particularly fond of Google groups, 
it's just "good enough". As a tool it works fairly well but it's not 
extraordinarily remarkable or efficient.
It feels kind of buggy at times and stagnated, I think google hasn't 
updated it in ages and it feels abandoned. I just think the benefits of 
moving haven't outweighed the trouble of migrating *yet.*

As for TWederation I have only been to the forums very superficially 
lately; I've heard the term thrown around several times but didn't quite 
grasp the whole concept behind it.
>From what I gathered it's about "federation" right? As in show external 
content from other sources (possibly other TiddlyWikis?) under the same 
host wiki, am I right?

Kind of like the plugins library currently works, if I am not mistaken?Is 
that it or am I far off?
Anyone care to explain in few words what it is? Genuinely curious.


On Thursday, 23 June 2016 00:13:23 UTC+1, Josiah wrote:
>
> Ciao Mat
>
> I seen activity on TWFederation. I have NO idea what it is exactly. I do 
> notice its a sweet-point with promise.
>
> HOW will it benefit a normal user?
>
> Best wishes
> Josiah
>
>
> On Thursday, 23 June 2016 00:10:56 UTC+2, Mat wrote:
>>
>> The only realistic option I can imagine is TWederation. By "only 
>> realistic" I mean that even if there are other solutions, there is not 
>> enough incentive to switch to those whereas TWederation is of interest for 
>> many other TW-matters and communication-within-TW matters.  I think 
>> TWederation will partly replace the google groups but it will likely be a 
>> bit too "odd" for beginners to dive into immediately and so this google 
>> group will likely remain. Hopefully we'll get the UI good enough so that 
>> it'll be more and more useful.
>>
>> Do help along with TWederation if you care about the matter :-)
>>
>> <:-)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, June 22, 2016 at 1:37:32 PM UTC+2, Josiah wrote:
>>>
>>> Ciao all
>>>
>>> After much sweat and endless toying I figured out how to look back over 
>>> posts here in a way i could finally find relevant stuff. Sometimes they are 
>>> gold. Often mush unless you have the time to wade through entire threads.
>>>
>>> What DOES stand out is that with ...
>>>
>>>1. decent tagging of OPTIMAL answers
>>>2. more cross-linking to relevant resources 
>>>3. a bit more thought by (informed) contributors that discussions 
>>>could really helpfully add to documentation, possibly create it ...
>>>
>>> ... in short, it could solve a lot of the "documentation gap". As is I 
>>> see perpetual re-creation of the wheel.
>>>
>>>
>>> The IRONY is this group has to be one of the most user-friendly on the 
>>> planet that's losing its history daily.
>>>
>>>
>>> I am not NOT convinced that the way Google Groups work is optimal for 
>>> what is needed.
>>>
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>>
>>> Josiah
>>>
>>

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[tw] Re: Google Groups is a somewhat UNWIELDY instrument ....

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

Nothing happened because I don't think there's any intention of moving. 
It's also probably a good sign that the current tool serves the community 
well enough.
I don't think any information has been lost, you can easily use search to 
find all older posts.

On Wednesday, 22 June 2016 17:19:50 UTC+1, Josiah wrote:
>
> Ciao Duarte Farrajota Ramos
>
> Transfer is painful. You lose people. BUT I dunno. What I SEE is ongoing 
> loss of CUMULATION. I know its been said before. But NOTHING happened. Even 
> here there are tagging tools, not used.
>
> J.
>
> On Wednesday, 22 June 2016 17:17:42 UTC+2, Duarte Farrajota Ramos wrote:
>>
>> I think this has been brought up many times before and TiddlyWiki Google 
>> groups is not going away anytime soon.
>>
>> I started using Stack Exchange network of sites recently though (more 
>> specifically Blender.Stackexchange) and I've been loving the format and the 
>> way it works.
>> I wonder if it would be adequate for TiddlyWiki, but from my experience 
>> everything indicates that it could work quite well.
>>
>> On Wednesday, 22 June 2016 12:37:32 UTC+1, Josiah wrote:
>>>
>>> Ciao all
>>>
>>> After much sweat and endless toying I figured out how to look back over 
>>> posts here in a way i could finally find relevant stuff. Sometimes they are 
>>> gold. Often mush unless you have the time to wade through entire threads.
>>>
>>> What DOES stand out is that with ...
>>>
>>>1. decent tagging of OPTIMAL answers
>>>2. more cross-linking to relevant resources 
>>>3. a bit more thought by (informed) contributors that discussions 
>>>could really helpfully add to documentation, possibly create it ...
>>>
>>> ... in short, it could solve a lot of the "documentation gap". As is I 
>>> see perpetual re-creation of the wheel.
>>>
>>>
>>> The IRONY is this group has to be one of the most user-friendly on the 
>>> planet that's losing its history daily.
>>>
>>>
>>> I am not NOT convinced that the way Google Groups work is optimal for 
>>> what is needed.
>>>
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>>
>>> Josiah
>>>
>>

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[tw] Re: Google Groups is a somewhat UNWIELDY instrument ....

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

I think this has been brought up many times before and TiddlyWiki Google 
groups is not going away anytime soon.

I started using Stack Exchange network of sites recently though (more 
specifically Blender.Stackexchange) and I've been loving the format and the 
way it works.
I wonder if it would be adequate for TiddlyWiki, but from my experience 
everything indicates that it could work quite well.

On Wednesday, 22 June 2016 12:37:32 UTC+1, Josiah wrote:
>
> Ciao all
>
> After much sweat and endless toying I figured out how to look back over 
> posts here in a way i could finally find relevant stuff. Sometimes they are 
> gold. Often mush unless you have the time to wade through entire threads.
>
> What DOES stand out is that with ...
>
>1. decent tagging of OPTIMAL answers
>2. more cross-linking to relevant resources 
>3. a bit more thought by (informed) contributors that discussions 
>could really helpfully add to documentation, possibly create it ...
>
> ... in short, it could solve a lot of the "documentation gap". As is I see 
> perpetual re-creation of the wheel.
>
>
> The IRONY is this group has to be one of the most user-friendly on the 
> planet that's losing its history daily.
>
>
> I am not NOT convinced that the way Google Groups work is optimal for what 
> is needed.
>
>
> Best wishes
>
> Josiah
>

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Re: [tw] [tw5] Final tests for 5.1.12 before release

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

No hurries from my part, take your time to do it right, Jeremy
This is shaping up to be a great release for TiddlyWiki, and a huge step 
forward for a wider adoption and general public visibility.

On Wednesday, 22 June 2016 14:19:30 UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Hi Josiah
>
> Ciao Jeremy & all
>
> Isn't it ready for release? As far as I can see there are far more 
> "feature requests" than "bug reports”.
>
>
> The main bug I’m thinking of is with the placeholder text for the new 
> editor being the wrong colour in Chrome (but not Firefox).
>
> I have also had to respond to some of the feature requests because if 
> deferred they would have required changes that would break backwards 
> compatibility).
>
> Couldn't there be a slightly faster methodology on release with more 
> sub-numbers?
>
>
> I talked about this in one of the earlier threads: the problem with this 
> release is that (a) the new editor is an unprecedentedly big change to the 
> core and (b) my day-job has been more time consuming than usual.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
>
> Thoughts
> Josiah
>
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[tw] Re: Tiddlywiki Custom Field Sort As Number

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

Damn! I was madly searching precisely for this a few weeks ago and never 
found a solution. Didn't know about nsort, just assumed there was no way to 
sort numbers in tiddlywiki.
This would have saved me a lot of time then, now waste time again to fixing 
it... oh well always learning.

Anyway thanks for the tip


On Monday, 20 June 2016 23:25:41 UTC+1, Mark S. wrote:
>
> I don't understand all those reverse sorts you're doing, but then again, 
> there's a lot I don't understand ;-)
>
> I think you want the "nsort" operator.
>
> Good luck!
> Mark
>
> On Monday, June 20, 2016 at 3:21:42 PM UTC-7, Taylor Jensen wrote:
>>
>> I'm making a TiddlyWiki where some of the tiddlers contain the following 
>> fields: `age` `year` `month` `date` corresponding to the date of the 
>> tiddler in a fictional universe (hence I can't use the existing date 
>> fields, the calendar is different). 
>>
>> I have this code that creates a list and sorts tiddlers more or less 
>> correctly by `age`, `year`, `month`, `date` in that order:
>>
>> <$list filter="[tag[history]] [tag[progress]] 
>> +[!sort[date]!sort[month]!sort[year]!sort[age]]">
>> <$link>{{!!title}} | Age: {{!!age}} Year: 
>> {{!!year}} Month: {{!!month}} > style="font-weight: bold;">Date: {{!!date}}
>> 
>>
>> But when I have a field that is say `month:11` it gets sorted after 
>> `month:1` and before `month:2` because it's being evaluated and sorted as 
>> text.
>>
>> So my question comes down to how can I force `sort[]` to treat its 
>> parameter like an integer, or how can I tell TiddlyWiki what kind of data 
>> I'm storing in my custom fields?
>>
>

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[tw] Re: [Happy Birthday Jeremy]

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

Well its been one year... and one day (so I am already late), but I haven't 
seen a new thread and so not to pollute the forum I'll just reuse this one.

So on behalf of a very grateful community:

Happy Birthday Jeremy!

Hope you had a great anniversary, and congratulations on the great upcoming 
release it is shaping up to be a huge improvement.
That toolbar is a really needed feature for a wider acceptance of 
TiddlyWiki, especially for a more mainstream audience and less tech savvy 
users.

Hell I might even introduce my mom to TiddlyWiki with it :)
Anyway happy birthday

On Monday, 15 June 2015 14:43:39 UTC+1, Danielo Rodríguez wrote:
>
> Instead of hijacking the thread of the new release of Tiddliwiki I think 
> is better to use a dedicated topic for this.
>
> Jeremy, for the last couple of years, tiddlywiki has become my main 
> documentation tool and my secondary brain. So, additionally to thank you 
> for such great piece of software, I want to say:
>
>
> HAPPY BIRTHDAY
>
> I hope to see many and many TW releases in the upcoming years!!! And of 
> course you making them :P 
>
> Regards
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] How to detect not imported Tiddlers

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

Well one simple thing you could try is get the list of all tiddler titles 
directly from LibreOffice and paste them as a list of links in tiddlywiki
If there are indeed 924 Titles with links some are bound to be missing or 
dead links. You can highlight them in some way to make them standout out 
and easily figure out by brute force which ones did not import.

If you can't find them easily from the list of 1000 tiddlers just create a 
new style for it by creating a new tiddler tag it with $:/tags/Stylesheet and 
then paste something like this in the body

a.tc-tiddlylink-missing {
font-style: italic;
color: #a00;
}
adjust it to your liking


On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 01:38:44 UTC+1, RichardWilliamSmith wrote:
>
> Hi Tristan,
>
> I'm sorry, I obviously don't understand the issue properly. If they have 
> properly formed, non-duplicate titles then I'm afraid I don't know why 
> three out of 1000 would get lost. If you only have 1000 tiddlers, I think 
> my previous suggestion is still the quickest way to fix the problem but, as 
> Mat says, you can raise the issue on github - Jeremy has spoken in the past 
> about improving the feedback given by the import mechanism but I don't know 
> if that ever got anywhere.
>
> Regards,
> Richard
>
> edit to add: you could get the list of all tiddlers back out of tiddlywiki 
> into your spreadsheet software and diff them in that (put them all in the 
> same list and search for the ones that aren't duplicated)
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[tw] Re: [TW5]: How to handwrite in tiddlywiki 5?

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

Have you looked into the upcoming 5.1.12 pre-release version 
?

It has an improved image editor, with selectable stroke width, color and 
transparency. Just create a new tiddler and change the type at the bottom 
dropdown into Image/PNG or JPEG

It saves them as standard images, not sure if that's the level of 
editability you are looking for, but you should be able to edit them on 
your computer with any standard image editor, or even directly inside 
Tiddlywiki


On Thursday, 26 May 2016 23:57:08 UTC+1, Shashi Obulasetty wrote:
>
> Hello fellow tiddlywiki-ers,
>
> I have been using tiddlywiki for a while on my samsung note 10.1
>
> I want to know if there is a plugin to draw and use hand-written notes in 
> tiddlywiki.
>
> I want to be able to edit the written thing in my pc and my note (tablet).
>
> Please help me.
>
> Thank you,
> Shashi
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[tw] Re: Using ASCII to incorporate diagrams into TW with minimal overheads

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

I really like SVG as an illustration format, though I generally use 
Inkscape to do it.

For online editing I found these two from a quick google search
https://github.com/SVG-Edit/svgedit (click the Try SVG-edit 
 
here link to use it)
or http://editor.method.ac/ though I've never used any of them

If you say you are on a locked down environment PortableApps 
may be a good solution if basic online editing 
doesn't cut it, depending on how locked down your environment is.
Inkscape is available as a Portable App 
, 
suitable for running from a USB drive taking all your settings with you 


On Tuesday, 19 April 2016 08:44:55 UTC+1, Tom Bush wrote:
>
> Hah, I get that ASCII is ld. But it is a nice editor at least ;-)
>
> Just wondering then, could someone post a workflow that doesn't require me 
> to go outside of the browser to create simple SVG graphics I can paste in 
> without drag and drop/saving locally/needing extra software?
>
> I have a locked down work PC but need to keep everything in one file 
> rather than linked. 
>
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[tw] Re: Convert HTML to TW5 Tables?

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

Ok, gave it a quick test and also updated my CKEditor while I was at it, 
and it seems a lot more stable and usable now, CKEditor now correctly 
resizes and errors seem less frequent.
Some script errors here and there but they are most likely caused by 
CKeditor plugins not Tiddlywiki itself (I've noticed that the "Store in 
Browser" plugin is often the culprit, and frequently generates problems)

Once again many thanks for the update. I'll keep using it regularly as I 
always do, if I find any problems I'll let you know.

On Friday, 25 March 2016 17:01:31 UTC, Duarte Farrajota Ramos wrote:
>
> Hey that's great news BJ, gonna give it a try as soon as I get a chance. 
> Thanks for the update
>
> On Friday, 25 March 2016 10:32:41 UTC, BJ wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, March 25, 2016 at 4:33:22 AM UTC, Duarte Farrajota Ramos wrote:
>>>
>>> The way I see it you could try two different methods
>>>
>>>
>>>1. If you really want to edit them directly inside TiddlyWiki in a 
>>>WYSIWYG manner you could try using the fantastic CKEditor plugin for 
>>>TiddlyWiki 
>>><https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/nMLwo2eRRqE/Qe5EDDDAcvYJ> 
>>>by BJ. It as its fair share of rough edges but I've been using it for 
>>> quite 
>>>a while now and it does it's job well if you put up with it's bugs.
>>>
>>> Hi Duarte, I have made some improvement in the latest version (at 
>> http://bjtools.tiddlyspot.com)
>> cheers
>> BJ 
>>
>>>
>>>1. Since it is an HTML table you can simply copy paste it directly 
>>>into the text area. If you make a custom local install of CKEditor you 
>>> can 
>>>include one of the table editing plugins and have an almost full fledged 
>>>WYSIWYG table editor in TiddlyWiki without any coding or dealing with 
>>> wiki 
>>>text.
>>>
>>>2. Most spreadsheet applications can receive data from HTML tables 
>>>by simple copy paste, like Google Docs, Excel, LibreOffice etc. just 
>>> copy 
>>>your table and paste it wherever you feel most comfortable working. From 
>>>there it should be fairly easy to export to any other more TiddlyWiki 
>>>friendly format like CSV. Last i checked LibreOffice had a pretty decent 
>>>CSV importer/exporter. You can then use any text editor or utility with 
>>>find and replace or regex to tame your table into submission, and 
>>> replace 
>>>any CSV with wiki text delimiters.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, 23 March 2016 16:35:58 UTC, Ed wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear All,
>>>>
>>>> At work I have a database and I want to get the info into TW5.
>>>> The only way that I can do it is exporting an item to HTML and
>>>> that I can put in a tiddler. That works. It looks even OK>
>>>>
>>>> But editing that whole HTML-mess it is a downright nuisance, 
>>>> really too much work as there about 1500 - 2000 items.
>>>>
>>>> I'v been looking at converters online and I can make e.g. PDFs, 
>>>> Excels or or lightly fornatted text.
>>>>
>>>> Is there a way to convert HTML right away to TW5 tables?
>>>> Thanks is advance
>>>> Salut! Edm.
>>>>
>>>

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[tw] Re: Convert HTML to TW5 Tables?

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

Hey that's great news BJ, gonna give it a try as soon as I get a chance. 
Thanks for the update

On Friday, 25 March 2016 10:32:41 UTC, BJ wrote:
>
>
>
> On Friday, March 25, 2016 at 4:33:22 AM UTC, Duarte Farrajota Ramos wrote:
>>
>> The way I see it you could try two different methods
>>
>>
>>1. If you really want to edit them directly inside TiddlyWiki in a 
>>WYSIWYG manner you could try using the fantastic CKEditor plugin for 
>>TiddlyWiki 
>><https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/nMLwo2eRRqE/Qe5EDDDAcvYJ> 
>>by BJ. It as its fair share of rough edges but I've been using it for 
>> quite 
>>a while now and it does it's job well if you put up with it's bugs.
>>
>> Hi Duarte, I have made some improvement in the latest version (at 
> http://bjtools.tiddlyspot.com)
> cheers
> BJ 
>
>>
>>1. Since it is an HTML table you can simply copy paste it directly 
>>into the text area. If you make a custom local install of CKEditor you 
>> can 
>>include one of the table editing plugins and have an almost full fledged 
>>WYSIWYG table editor in TiddlyWiki without any coding or dealing with 
>> wiki 
>>text.
>>
>>2. Most spreadsheet applications can receive data from HTML tables by 
>>simple copy paste, like Google Docs, Excel, LibreOffice etc. just copy 
>> your 
>>table and paste it wherever you feel most comfortable working. From there 
>>it should be fairly easy to export to any other more TiddlyWiki friendly 
>>format like CSV. Last i checked LibreOffice had a pretty decent CSV 
>>importer/exporter. You can then use any text editor or utility with find 
>>and replace or regex to tame your table into submission, and replace any 
>>CSV with wiki text delimiters.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, 23 March 2016 16:35:58 UTC, Ed wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>> At work I have a database and I want to get the info into TW5.
>>> The only way that I can do it is exporting an item to HTML and
>>> that I can put in a tiddler. That works. It looks even OK>
>>>
>>> But editing that whole HTML-mess it is a downright nuisance, 
>>> really too much work as there about 1500 - 2000 items.
>>>
>>> I'v been looking at converters online and I can make e.g. PDFs, 
>>> Excels or or lightly fornatted text.
>>>
>>> Is there a way to convert HTML right away to TW5 tables?
>>> Thanks is advance
>>> Salut! Edm.
>>>
>>

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[tw] Re: Convert HTML to TW5 Tables?

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

The way I see it you could try two different methods


   1. If you really want to edit them directly inside TiddlyWiki in a 
   WYSIWYG manner you could try using the fantastic CKEditor plugin for 
   TiddlyWiki 
    by 
   BJ. It as its fair share of rough edges but I've been using it for quite a 
   while now and it does it's job well if you put up with it's bugs.
   Since it is an HTML table you can simply copy paste it directly into the 
   text area. If you make a custom local install of CKEditor you can include 
   one of the table editing plugins and have an almost full fledged WYSIWYG 
   table editor in TiddlyWiki without any coding or dealing with wiki text.
   
   2. Most spreadsheet applications can receive data from HTML tables by 
   simple copy paste, like Google Docs, Excel, LibreOffice etc. just copy your 
   table and paste it wherever you feel most comfortable working. From there 
   it should be fairly easy to export to any other more TiddlyWiki friendly 
   format like CSV. Last i checked LibreOffice had a pretty decent CSV 
   importer/exporter. You can then use any text editor or utility with find 
   and replace or regex to tame your table into submission, and replace any 
   CSV with wiki text delimiters.
   


On Wednesday, 23 March 2016 16:35:58 UTC, Ed wrote:
>
> Dear All,
>
> At work I have a database and I want to get the info into TW5.
> The only way that I can do it is exporting an item to HTML and
> that I can put in a tiddler. That works. It looks even OK>
>
> But editing that whole HTML-mess it is a downright nuisance, 
> really too much work as there about 1500 - 2000 items.
>
> I'v been looking at converters online and I can make e.g. PDFs, 
> Excels or or lightly fornatted text.
>
> Is there a way to convert HTML right away to TW5 tables?
> Thanks is advance
> Salut! Edm.
>

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[tw] Re: [How to] [TW5] Multiple tag fields

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

Hey Danielo that sounds very interesting, looking forward to that plugin


On Friday, 2 October 2015 21:52:54 UTC+1, Danielo Rodríguez wrote:
>
> I have created a widget called field-mangler-ext that allows you to select 
> to which field add the tags.
> It is not perfect, but it works. It's part of a plugin I am working at.
>

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[tw] Re: [How to] [TW5] Multiple tag fields

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

Hello Spangenhelm, the method explained here is a way to virtually have 
multiple tag fields on the same tiddler.
It simulates the option of having two or more distinct fields in the same 
tiddler that behave in the same way that the default tag editor does, with 
the benefits it brings, like the auto complete, the list of available tags, 
the tag-pill display etc.
It also creates a separation between a few "set of tags" with different 
purposes, for example in my software database I find it desirable to tag my 
software with stuff like "image Editor" "3D Modeling" or "Note Taking", I 
also like to tag it by platform "Windows" "Mac" Linux" etc.
These tags could all live in the same field, or I could optionally separate 
them as if they are completely independent sets of tags each with its own 
field both while reading or editing the tiddler. Same goes for file 
formats, instead of having dozens of file formats "polluting" my regular 
tag field I can have them neatly separated into it's own field.

Check a screenshot f the example below:

In edit mode:




And in view mode





Hope this makes it clearer



BTW, glad you like the poster thanks! :)


















On Thursday, 17 September 2015 09:13:50 UTC+1, Spangenhelm wrote:
>
> Hi, i'm trying to understand the purpose of this but my mind refuse lol: 
> is there a place where we can see this in action or could you provide a 
> screenshot please ?
> I have tried to copy what you have published above but without success..
>
> Thank you
>
> Ps: congratulations too for the poster, looks nice and clean !
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[tw] Re: [How to] [TW5] Multiple tag fields

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

You are right Tobias, nice one! That would indeed be easier in this case.
I guess I just did it blindly for consistency/continuity, since the formats 
used the prefix method because of the distinction between Input and Output

I'll probably rework those since it's still WIP, there is still no separate 
editing for platforms yet.

On Thursday, 17 September 2015 12:51:43 UTC+1, Tobias Beer wrote:
>
> Hi Duarte,
>
> Using prefixes looks a bit redundant.
>
> I would rather give every platform-type a tag *platform* and then 
> construct the filter based off of that, e.g
>
> [tag[platform]tagging[]]
>
> [tag[output-format]tagging[]]
>
> ...and then only use mac, linux windows ...or the corresponding mime types 
> as titles.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> — tb
>

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[tw] Re: [How to] [TW5] Multiple tag fields

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

For the formats input and output tags it won't work, because for example a 
tiddler named JPEG could belong to input or output or both on the same 
tiddler.

On second though using tags for platforms has undesirable effects, like 
adding a new platform will not show immediately, since you have to manually 
create the tiddler and tag it with "Platform"

Separate fields would definitely be the way to go, but it is beyond my 
skill level

On Thursday, 17 September 2015 13:01:14 UTC+1, Tobias Beer wrote:
>
> I guess I just did it blindly for consistency/continuity, since the 
>> formats used the prefix method because of the distinction between Input and 
>> Output
>>
>
> ...which really begs for using dedicated fields, though, imho. 
>
> Best wishes,
>
> — tb
>

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[tw] Re: [How to] [TW5] Multiple tag fields

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

Hey I just figured out this can effectively used to have a separate 
hierarchy of "Categories" and "Tags", where categories can be used for the 
table of contents sidebar macro, and the tags can be used as regular tags 
without disrupting the tree view. One can use a prefix like "Toc/###" or 
"Category/###" for the toc entries.

On Tuesday, 15 September 2015 13:58:11 UTC+1, Tobias Beer wrote:
>
> Here's how I would envision some "multiple-tag-fields" components to work 
> off the top off my head...
>
> 1) the user defines fields that function as *tagsets*, like all fields in 
> lowercase, which when used are entered and interpreted as if standard tags, 
> but not returned by standard tag filters, e.g.
>
>- author
>- category
>
> 2) for each *tagset* there's a config tiddler under a dedicated system 
> namespace, e.g.
>
>- $:/config/tagfieds/author
>- $:/config/tagfieds/category
>
> 3) these config tiddlers hold all config parameters leveraged with 4) and 
> 5) for each *tagset*, e.g.
>
>- *filter*
>   - specifies for which tiddlers the editor / viewer is displayed at 
>   all, default: none (thus all tiddlers)
>- *title*
>   - the name of a corresponding tiddler, so instead of "author" one 
>   could reference a tiddler "Authors" or, french, Auteurs
>   - a link to that tiddler will be shown in the view-mode component 
>   as a kind of section heading
>- *list-before* / *list-after*
>   - determine how different tag-fields are listed as edit- or 
>   view-mode-sections
>   - the tag *$:/tags/FieldTags* can be used to further specify sorting
>   - *color*
>   - a color for the *tagset*
>
> 4) edit-mode
>
>- a component that implements the default edit-tags template, one for 
>each *tagset*, esp. the popup-adder
>- preferably, the standard component can be reused in a parameterized 
>manner
>
> 5) view-mode
>
>- a component that allows to list all items in a *tagset*, linking to 
>a *tagset*-tiddler
>- could be used to create a "new here" item, thus a new tiddler with a 
>field corresponding to the *tagset*, still emtpy
>
> So, essentially, this would be what you did only just not using actual 
> tags with prefixes, but rather individual fields for each *tag**set*. All 
> tiddlers that are in a *tagset* are determined using adequate list 
> filters, including some that have been in the pipe for a bit.
>
> — tb
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[tw] Re: [How to] [TW5] Multiple tag fields

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

@Tobias Beer & @PMario Thanks for the comments guys, you're welcome. :)

@Tobias Beer what you describe in that link is a very well worded 
description of the limitations I found with the current set of tools, and 
exactly what I envision would be a perfect solution. I sure as hell would 
love to see it as a plugin, very interesting discussion.
I made a few (very) crude attempts at implementing that myself, by editing 
the current tag editor tiddler $:/core/ui/EditTemplate/tags, to read from a 
custom field and list entries from different tiddlers.
I copied code from the current documentation and from a few tips and 
research I did around the forum, but eventually came to a halt because I 
couldn't get it to list tags individually, they were grouped together as if 
the whole content of each tiddler's custom field was a single tag.
I later came up with the solution above which kind of works acceptably for 
my use case; so I'll leave the code here for anyone smarter than me who 
cares to look at it. It's probably the wrong way to go about doing it, but 
maybe it'll inspire someone who actually knows what he's doing to complete 
it or implement it correctly as a plugin.

This would go as a tiddler tagged with $:/tags/EditTemplate for a custom 
field named "custom_field_name"

\define lingo-base() $:/language/EditTemplate/
\define tag-styles()
background-color:$(backgroundColor)$;
\end


``<$list filter="[all[current]has[custom_field_name]]" storyview="pop">``
``
<$fieldmangler>
``<$list filter="[each[custom_field_name]get[custom_field_name]]" storyview=
"pop">``<$set name="backgroundColor" value={{!!color}}>> class="tc-tag-label">``
<$view field="title" format="text" />
<$button message="tm-remove-tag" param={{!!title}} class="tc-btn-invisible 
tc-remove-tag-button">``



``
``
<$edit-text tiddler="$:/temp/NewCustomEntryName" tag="input" default="" 
placeholder={{$:/language/EditTemplate/Tags/Add/Placeholder}} 
focusPopup=<``> class="tc-edit-texteditor 
tc-popup-handle"/>
 <$button popup=<``> 
class="tc-btn-invisible tc-btn-dropdown" 
tooltip={{$:/language/EditTemplate/Tags/Dropdown/Hint}} 
aria-label={{$:/language/EditTemplate/Tags/Dropdown/Caption}}>{{$:/core/images/down-arrow}}
 
``
<$button param={{$:/temp/NewCustomEntryName}} set="$:/temp/
NewCustomEntryName" setTo="" class="">``
<$action-setfield custom_field_name={{$:/temp/NewCustomEntryName}}/>
<>




``
<$reveal state=<``> 
type="nomatch" text="" default="">``
``
<$linkcatcher set="$:/temp/NewCustomEntryName" setTo="" message="tm-add-tag
">``
``<$list filter="[search:custom_field_name{$:/temp/NewCustomEntryName} 
search:title{$:/temp/NewCustomEntryName}sort[]]">``
{{||$:/core/ui/Components/tag-link}}


``<$list filter="[each[custom_field_name]get[custom_field_name]search:title{
$:/temp/NewCustomEntryName}sort[]]">``
{{||$:/core/ui/Components/tag-link}}














On Tuesday, 15 September 2015 10:41:02 UTC+1, Tobias Beer wrote:
>
> Thanks for the instructions,
>
> While a bit blown out of proportion, discussion-wise, here's a 
> related issue about wanting more "tag-fields" and perhaps a desire to 
> leverage the same core tag-components to establish custom tag-collections 
> or tag-sets or whatever you call it, yours having a prefix and being actual 
> tags:
>
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/1324
>
> Best wishes, Tobias.
>

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[tw] [How to] [TW5] Multiple tag fields

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

Hello, everyone
I've been using TiddlyWiki 5 happily for a few months now, for all my 
personal note taking and offline local knowledgebase, but one thing was 
keeping me from doing a full transition of all my data, and that was being 
able to have multiple tag fields per tiddler.
I figured out a relatively easy way to have multiple tag fields in a 
tiddler (sort of) and decided to share it here as reference since I've seen 
the same question popup a few times before, and maybe it is useful to 
someone else.


Disclamer

This isn't a true multiple tag field per tiddler, tags are all still store 
in the default built in tags field, me and my (very) limited coding skills 
haven't figured out entirely how to do that just yet.
This is just a hack to work around the missing desirable functionality, and 
simulate that feature, it is however, from a user point of view, both for 
viewing and editing purposes virtually the same as having as many tag 
fields as you like.

A little background

I'll use as an example the one piece of data I had yet to convert to a 
TiddliWiki format: my Software Database. I like trying out new software and 
always looking for better alternatives for what I currently use, and in the 
process I like to keep a record of what I find, where to get it from and 
it's strengths and weaknesses and features.I also like keeping some useful 
more technical info about them, like for example input and output file 
formats and protocols for each application.
This is where multiple tag fields come in handy, I'd like to have a field 
for input where I could specify that said program can read formats like say 
PSD, SVG, PDF and output or save to formats like Jpeg, Tiff or PNG. This 
could easily be done in the tag field, but I would like to keep that 
reserved for actual "categories" of software (like Image editors, or Text 
Editors, File Browsers etc.) and having file format tags there would 
quickly encumber it with a huge amount of tags, while still being hard to 
distinguish between input and output for each application without having to 
duplicate the set of tags.

Principle

So the trick here is filtering tags, if you do this to your tiddlywiki 
you'll basically end up with a different set of tags for each "custom 
field" that you would add, distinguished by a certain feature, either by 
name, by a certain tag, presence of a field, or any other filterable option.
After that all you have to do is filter out each set of undesirable set 
tags for each context.

How to

So following the above example of the software database lets image you want 
to have an *Input *field and an *Output *field for each tiddler tagged with 
Software and for each of these there will be a set of file format and 
protocol tags that can be assigned independently to each field. Instead of 
creating theses fields what we will do is create a different set of tags 
with a specific naming convention that will only e shown in the correct 
context.
For my use case I chose to distinguish these tags by name (could be with a 
tag or field or any other difference that can be filtered or with wiki text 
filters) , so all input tags would be named according to this scheme 
"*Format/Input/File 
Type Name*" and all output tags would be named "*Format/Output/File Type*"
Now first step would be to make sure these tags stay out of your way in the 
"regular" tag field; to do so you have to search for your tag editor system 
tiddler $:/core/ui/EditTemplate/tags


   1. Search for $:/core/ui/EditTemplate/tags with the Advanced 
   Search/System dialog.
   2. Overwrite the system tiddler by making a copy with the exact same 
   name (erase the number at the end)
   3. Now you need to override the tags that are shown both in the dropdown 
   search popup and the already applied tags by editing by editing the filters
  1. Edit the field mangler line <$list 
  filter="[all[current]tags[]sort[title]]" storyview="pop"> to never 
  display tiddlers that start with "*Format/*" in their name by 
  replacing it with the prefix operator
  <$list filter="[all[current]tags[]!prefix[Format/]sort[title]]" 
  storyview="pop">
  2. Edit the linkcatcher line <$list 
  filter="[tags[]!is[system]search:title{$:/temp/NewTagName}sort[]]"> to 
  never display tiddlers that start with "*Format/*" in their name by 
  replacing it with the prefix operator 
  <$list 
  
filter="[tags[]!prefix[Format/]!is[system]search:title{$:/temp/NewTagName}sort[]]">
  
  4. To be able to display the tags correctly you need to do the same 
   in the view template $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/tags to exclude undesirable 
   tags
  1. Search for $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/tags with the Advanced 
  Search/System dialog.
  2. Overwrite the system tiddler by making a copy with the exact same 
  name
  3. Replace the filter <$list filter="[all[current]tags[]sort[title]]" 
  template="$:/core/ui/TagTemplate" 

[tw] Re: New search behaviour demo

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

I would really really love to see something like this be the standard 
behavior shipped with TW be default
Fantastic work once again.

On Tuesday, 28 July 2015 17:28:11 UTC+1, Felix Küppers wrote:

 Hi @Everybody

 Updates on this project:

 The demo is now hosted at:
 http://spangenhelm.github.io/TW5-EnhancedSearchResults

 A GitHub repo with the current code is here (License is BSD). Anybody who 
 wants to contribute is welcome :)
 https://github.com/Spangenhelm/TW5-EnhancedSearchResults

 -Felix


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Re: [tw] Re: CKEditor replace by class

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

Styles will be a welcome addition certainly. For now I managed to get it 
working with the plugins I needed, nothing too fancy.
Only real complaint I have at the moment is that small glitch while loading 
CKEditor which temporarily messes up the layout until you start typing and 
it all falls back into place, but I can live with that.

What I don't really understand well how to use is the styles.json tiddler 
at $:/plugins/bj/visualeditor/styles.json and what notation must be used 
there
I know you add styles there, but I can't tell how to set them apart for the 
Paragraph Format and Formatting Styles menus, or how to add a few 
simple H1 and H2 elements without additional styles for example, or 
Block quotes or Code.
Playing around with it is a bit cumbersome, because any wrong combination 
or mistake will generate a javascript error and prevent tiddlywiki from 
booting properly.

On Tuesday, 14 July 2015 05:52:18 UTC+1, BJ wrote:

 I have not finished the work for the ckeditor, I plan on adding support 
 for the divarea plugin to enable styles (I have this working on twclassic), 
 but I have a lot of projects and am only one. Let me know what was causing 
 your problems - I might fix it !
 cheers
 BJ

 On Tuesday, July 14, 2015 at 2:49:29 AM UTC+1, Duarte Farrajota Ramos 
 wrote:

 Haha that's very kind of you thanks for the wonderful support. The 
 problem once again seems to be between the seat and the keyboard luckily 
 for you.

 Some wacky combination of CKEditor plugins (built from CK builder 
 website) seems to be the culprit of the malfunction, it works fine in the 
 provided samples page but fails to load inside tiddlywiki
 It is simply solved by downloading a standard CKeditor build, I'll try 
 adding plugins one by one and see if I can find which ones are causing 
 trouble. 
 If you are interested I can still provide a broken CKEditor build, but 
 that's probably just a waste of time.

 Anyway thanks for your availability, much appreciated :)

 On Monday, 13 July 2015 21:23:37 UTC+1, BJ wrote:

 Hi Duarte,
 well I like to please my customers,( and as far as I know that means 
 just you!) and so have downloaded  4.5.1 and have tried it with 5.1.9 - and 
 it seems to work ok. If you can put you tiddlywiki online somewhere that I 
 can see it I will try and workout why it doesn't work for you.

 Cheers

 BJ

 On Monday, July 13, 2015 at 5:11:41 PM UTC+1, Duarte Farrajota Ramos 
 wrote:

 Hey BJ
 Sorry to bother you and dig up this old post, there a few major 
 releases in the meantime, and I was excited to try the new CKEditor 4.5.1 
 with the fresh new TiddlyWiki 5.1.9
 Turns out there must have been some deeper changes on both sides that 
 seem to be preventing it from working correctly. I mean CKEditor seems 
 load 
 inside tiddlywiki but it appears all greyed out, I can't type or press any 
 of the buttons.
 Did I do something wrong along installation, or did the deeper changes 
 really break the fragile compatibility?
 Do you think you could be bothered to update for the latest versions, 
 would it be worth your while?? Very few people seem to be using this, so I 
 totally understand if you don't.

 Thanks, Duarte


 On Thursday, 12 February 2015 12:39:38 UTC, BJ wrote:

 Hi Tobias,
 if you look in the widget's source you will see that an 'x-perimental' 
 type can be enabled - I cannot decide if it is a good thing or not - I 
 don't plan to support it at the moment
 cheers

 BJ

 On 12 February 2015 at 01:16, Tobias Beer beert...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi BJ,

 I just noticed that — while you can't put any macros — you can 
 actually put widgets alongside html (in source mode). What you don't see 
 is 
 some placeholder in CKEditor that hints at you that it's there.

 Now I am wondering whether CKEditor does allow for something like 
 widgets... so we could at least see a placeholder with the widget code 
 and upon clicking we'd be editing that core widget.

 Perhaps a CKEditor plugin could be written that allows to insert and 
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Re: [tw] Re: CKEditor replace by class

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

Gave it a try and it did work, however I didn't see much difference in the 
editing area, it was still styled differently from the rest of tiddlywiki, 
althought I am quite ok with that.
It did break some other functionality, like the floating bar always 
appearing out of place outside the editing text area, and the menus stopped 
staying open, they close immediately uppon clicking.

I tried copy pasting from the provided default CKEditor styles.js into the 
styles tiddler and I can't seem to get it to work. the styles menu either 
just gets greyed out and won't open or gives a javascript error.


On Tuesday, 14 July 2015 13:28:11 UTC+1, BJ wrote:

 It looks like the 'div area editor' is working. When you build your 
 version of ckeditor online, you can select the 'div area editor' plugin and 
 remove the 'iframe area editor' plugin. The will allow the editor to use 
 the correct styles in tiddlywiki whilst editing.

 cheers

 BJ

 On Tuesday, July 14, 2015 at 11:21:05 AM UTC+1, Duarte Farrajota Ramos 
 wrote:

 Styles will be a welcome addition certainly. For now I managed to get it 
 working with the plugins I needed, nothing too fancy.
 Only real complaint I have at the moment is that small glitch while 
 loading CKEditor which temporarily messes up the layout until you start 
 typing and it all falls back into place, but I can live with that.

 What I don't really understand well how to use is the styles.json tiddler 
 at $:/plugins/bj/visualeditor/styles.json and what notation must be used 
 there
 I know you add styles there, but I can't tell how to set them apart for 
 the Paragraph Format and Formatting Styles menus, or how to add a few 
 simple H1 and H2 elements without additional styles for example, or 
 Block quotes or Code.
 Playing around with it is a bit cumbersome, because any wrong combination 
 or mistake will generate a javascript error and prevent tiddlywiki from 
 booting properly.

 On Tuesday, 14 July 2015 05:52:18 UTC+1, BJ wrote:

 I have not finished the work for the ckeditor, I plan on adding support 
 for the divarea plugin to enable styles (I have this working on twclassic), 
 but I have a lot of projects and am only one. Let me know what was causing 
 your problems - I might fix it !
 cheers
 BJ

 On Tuesday, July 14, 2015 at 2:49:29 AM UTC+1, Duarte Farrajota Ramos 
 wrote:

 Haha that's very kind of you thanks for the wonderful support. The 
 problem once again seems to be between the seat and the keyboard luckily 
 for you.

 Some wacky combination of CKEditor plugins (built from CK builder 
 website) seems to be the culprit of the malfunction, it works fine in the 
 provided samples page but fails to load inside tiddlywiki
 It is simply solved by downloading a standard CKeditor build, I'll try 
 adding plugins one by one and see if I can find which ones are causing 
 trouble. 
 If you are interested I can still provide a broken CKEditor build, but 
 that's probably just a waste of time.

 Anyway thanks for your availability, much appreciated :)

 On Monday, 13 July 2015 21:23:37 UTC+1, BJ wrote:

 Hi Duarte,
 well I like to please my customers,( and as far as I know that means 
 just you!) and so have downloaded  4.5.1 and have tried it with 5.1.9 - 
 and 
 it seems to work ok. If you can put you tiddlywiki online somewhere that 
 I 
 can see it I will try and workout why it doesn't work for you.

 Cheers

 BJ

 On Monday, July 13, 2015 at 5:11:41 PM UTC+1, Duarte Farrajota Ramos 
 wrote:

 Hey BJ
 Sorry to bother you and dig up this old post, there a few major 
 releases in the meantime, and I was excited to try the new CKEditor 
 4.5.1 
 with the fresh new TiddlyWiki 5.1.9
 Turns out there must have been some deeper changes on both sides that 
 seem to be preventing it from working correctly. I mean CKEditor seems 
 load 
 inside tiddlywiki but it appears all greyed out, I can't type or press 
 any 
 of the buttons.
 Did I do something wrong along installation, or did the deeper 
 changes really break the fragile compatibility?
 Do you think you could be bothered to update for the latest versions, 
 would it be worth your while?? Very few people seem to be using this, so 
 I 
 totally understand if you don't.

 Thanks, Duarte


 On Thursday, 12 February 2015 12:39:38 UTC, BJ wrote:

 Hi Tobias,
 if you look in the widget's source you will see that an 
 'x-perimental' type can be enabled - I cannot decide if it is a good 
 thing 
 or not - I don't plan to support it at the moment
 cheers

 BJ

 On 12 February 2015 at 01:16, Tobias Beer beert...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 Hi BJ,

 I just noticed that — while you can't put any macros — you can 
 actually put widgets alongside html (in source mode). What you don't 
 see is 
 some placeholder in CKEditor that hints at you that it's there.

 Now I am wondering whether CKEditor does allow for something like 
 widgets... so we could at least see a placeholder with the widget 
 code 
 and upon clicking we'd be editing that core widget

Re: [tw] Re: CKEditor replace by class

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

Well that worked like a charm, I guess I pretty much hit my limitations at 
copy pasting stuff around.
Additionally I did notice that this new version of CKEditor seems to 
alleviate the spacing issues at launch with Tiddlywiki, more often then not 
it opens and sizes correctly, which is a plus :D

Once again many thank you for your time and patience, and for the wonderful 
support!

On Tuesday, 14 July 2015 17:35:24 UTC+1, BJ wrote:


 I only tried the div plugin with a basic setup, maybe it does not play 
 well with other plugins.

 The styles need to be a json:

 [{name:Italic 
 Title,element:h2,styles:{font-style:italic}},{name:Subtitle,element:h3,styles:{color:#aaa,font-style:italic}},{name:Special
  
 Container,element:div,styles:{padding:5px 
 10px,background:#eee,border:1px solid 
 #ccc}},{name:Strong,element:strong,overrides:b},{name:Emphasis,element:em,overrides:i},{name:Underline,element:u},{name:Strikethrough,element:strike},{name:Subscript,element:sub},{name:Superscript,element:sup},{name:Marker,element:span,attributes:{class:marker}},{name:Big,element:big},{name:Small,element:small},{name:Typewriter,element:tt},{name:Computer
  
 Code,element:code},{name:Keyboard 
 Phrase,element:kbd},{name:Sample 
 Text,element:samp},{name:Variable,element:var},{name:Deleted 
 Text,element:del},{name:Inserted 
 Text,element:ins},{name:Cited 
 Work,element:cite},{name:Inline 
 Quotation,element:q},{name:Language: 
 RTL,element:span,attributes:{dir:rtl}},{name:Language: 
 LTR,element:span,attributes:{dir:ltr}},{name:Styled image 
 (left),element:img,attributes:{class:left}},{name:Styled 
 image 
 (right),element:img,attributes:{class:right}},{name:Compact 
 table,element:table,attributes:{cellpadding:5,cellspacing:0,border:1,bordercolor:#ccc},styles:{border-collapse:collapse}},{name:Borderless
  
 Table,element:table,styles:{border-style:hidden,background-color:#E6E6FA}},{name:Square
  
 Bulleted List,element:ul,styles:{list-style-type:square}}] 
 On Tuesday, July 14, 2015 at 3:46:04 PM UTC+1, Duarte Farrajota Ramos 
 wrote:

 Gave it a try and it did work, however I didn't see much difference in 
 the editing area, it was still styled differently from the rest of 
 tiddlywiki, althought I am quite ok with that.
 It did break some other functionality, like the floating bar always 
 appearing out of place outside the editing text area, and the menus stopped 
 staying open, they close immediately uppon clicking.

 I tried copy pasting from the provided default CKEditor styles.js into 
 the styles tiddler and I can't seem to get it to work. the styles menu 
 either just gets greyed out and won't open or gives a javascript error.


 On Tuesday, 14 July 2015 13:28:11 UTC+1, BJ wrote:

 It looks like the 'div area editor' is working. When you build your 
 version of ckeditor online, you can select the 'div area editor' plugin and 
 remove the 'iframe area editor' plugin. The will allow the editor to use 
 the correct styles in tiddlywiki whilst editing.

 cheers

 BJ

 On Tuesday, July 14, 2015 at 11:21:05 AM UTC+1, Duarte Farrajota Ramos 
 wrote:

 Styles will be a welcome addition certainly. For now I managed to get 
 it working with the plugins I needed, nothing too fancy.
 Only real complaint I have at the moment is that small glitch while 
 loading CKEditor which temporarily messes up the layout until you start 
 typing and it all falls back into place, but I can live with that.

 What I don't really understand well how to use is the styles.json 
 tiddler at $:/plugins/bj/visualeditor/styles.json and what notation 
 must be used there
 I know you add styles there, but I can't tell how to set them apart for 
 the Paragraph Format and Formatting Styles menus, or how to add a few 
 simple H1 and H2 elements without additional styles for example, or 
 Block quotes or Code.
 Playing around with it is a bit cumbersome, because any wrong 
 combination or mistake will generate a javascript error and prevent 
 tiddlywiki from booting properly.

 On Tuesday, 14 July 2015 05:52:18 UTC+1, BJ wrote:

 I have not finished the work for the ckeditor, I plan on adding 
 support for the divarea plugin to enable styles (I have this working on 
 twclassic), but I have a lot of projects and am only one. Let me know 
 what 
 was causing your problems - I might fix it !
 cheers
 BJ

 On Tuesday, July 14, 2015 at 2:49:29 AM UTC+1, Duarte Farrajota Ramos 
 wrote:

 Haha that's very kind of you thanks for the wonderful support. The 
 problem once again seems to be between the seat and the keyboard luckily 
 for you.

 Some wacky combination of CKEditor plugins (built from CK builder 
 website) seems to be the culprit of the malfunction, it works fine in 
 the 
 provided samples page but fails to load inside tiddlywiki
 It is simply solved by downloading a standard CKeditor build, I'll 
 try adding plugins one by one and see if I can find which ones are 
 causing 
 trouble. 
 If you are interested I can still provide a broken CKEditor

Re: [tw] Re: CKEditor replace by class

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

Hey BJ
Sorry to bother you and dig up this old post, there a few major releases in 
the meantime, and I was wondering if I could try the new CKEditor 4.5.1 
with the fresh new tiddlywiki 5.1.9
Turns out there must have been some deeper changes on both sides that seem 
to be preventing it from working correctly. I mean CKEditor seems load 
inside tiddlywiki but it appears all greyed out, I can't type or press any 
of the buttons.
Did I do something wrong along installation, or did the deeper changes 
really break the fragile compatibility?
Do you think you could be bothered to update for the latest versions, would 
it be worth your while?? Very few people seem to be using this, so I 
totally understand if you don't.

Thanks, Duarte


On Thursday, 12 February 2015 12:39:38 UTC, BJ wrote:

 Hi Tobias,
 if you look in the widget's source you will see that an 'x-perimental' 
 type can be enabled - I cannot decide if it is a good thing or not - I 
 don't plan to support it at the moment
 cheers

 BJ

 On 12 February 2015 at 01:16, Tobias Beer beert...@gmail.com 
 javascript: wrote:

 Hi BJ,

 I just noticed that — while you can't put any macros — you can actually 
 put widgets alongside html (in source mode). What you don't see is some 
 placeholder in CKEditor that hints at you that it's there.

 Now I am wondering whether CKEditor does allow for something like 
 widgets... so we could at least see a placeholder with the widget code 
 and upon clicking we'd be editing that core widget.

 Perhaps a CKEditor plugin could be written that allows to insert and edit 
 a number of TiddlyWiki widgets, even with placeholders for the 
 corresponding attributes?

 Best wishes, Tobias.

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Re: [tw] Re: CKEditor replace by class

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

Haha that's very kind of you thanks for the wonderful support. The problem 
once again seems to be between the seat and the keyboard luckily for you.

Some wacky combination of CKEditor plugins (built from CK builder website) 
seems to be the culprit of the malfunction, it works fine in the provided 
samples page but fails to load inside tiddlywiki
It is simply solved by downloading a standard CKeditor build, I'll try 
adding plugins one by one and see if I can find which ones are causing 
trouble. 
If you are interested I can still provide a broken CKEditor build, but 
that's probably just a waste of time.

Anyway thanks for your availability, much appreciated :)


On Monday, 13 July 2015 21:23:37 UTC+1, BJ wrote:

 Hi Duarte,
 well I like to please my customers,( and as far as I know that means just 
 you!) and so have downloaded  4.5.1 and have tried it with 5.1.9 - and it 
 seems to work ok. If you can put you tiddlywiki online somewhere that I can 
 see it I will try and workout why it doesn't work for you.

 Cheers

 BJ

 On Monday, July 13, 2015 at 5:11:41 PM UTC+1, Duarte Farrajota Ramos wrote:

 Hey BJ
 Sorry to bother you and dig up this old post, there a few major releases 
 in the meantime, and I was excited to try the new CKEditor 4.5.1 with the 
 fresh new TiddlyWiki 5.1.9
 Turns out there must have been some deeper changes on both sides that 
 seem to be preventing it from working correctly. I mean CKEditor seems load 
 inside tiddlywiki but it appears all greyed out, I can't type or press any 
 of the buttons.
 Did I do something wrong along installation, or did the deeper changes 
 really break the fragile compatibility?
 Do you think you could be bothered to update for the latest versions, 
 would it be worth your while?? Very few people seem to be using this, so I 
 totally understand if you don't.

 Thanks, Duarte


 On Thursday, 12 February 2015 12:39:38 UTC, BJ wrote:

 Hi Tobias,
 if you look in the widget's source you will see that an 'x-perimental' 
 type can be enabled - I cannot decide if it is a good thing or not - I 
 don't plan to support it at the moment
 cheers

 BJ

 On 12 February 2015 at 01:16, Tobias Beer beert...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi BJ,

 I just noticed that — while you can't put any macros — you can actually 
 put widgets alongside html (in source mode). What you don't see is some 
 placeholder in CKEditor that hints at you that it's there.

 Now I am wondering whether CKEditor does allow for something like 
 widgets... so we could at least see a placeholder with the widget code 
 and upon clicking we'd be editing that core widget.

 Perhaps a CKEditor plugin could be written that allows to insert and 
 edit a number of TiddlyWiki widgets, even with placeholders for the 
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[tw] Re: [TW5] use JSON as alternative to plugin

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

Yes this is indeed very useful, thanks for sharing.
I would see this as the preferable method for sharing addons, that way one 
can build a local filesystem library that can easily be imported to new 
wikis.
I would also eventually like to see the possibility to export all currently 
open tiddlers.

On Tuesday, 28 April 2015 00:28:44 UTC+1, Greg Davis wrote:

 This is probably old hat for the long time TiddlyWiki Pros, maybe the idea 
 will help others.

 Without setting up node.js to build plugins, would saving the required 
 tiddlers as a JSON be an acceptable way to distribute custom setups? I 
 remember coming across 
 a way to do plugins without node.js but it was some what complicated, at 
 the moment I can't find the link to the instructions.

 Originally I was just looking for an easier way to apply customizations to 
 new empty TiddlyWikis instead of dragging tiddlers between them. Finally 
 got a Left Menu to 
 work and customized close to what I want and it struck me that I could use 
 export to JSON as a way to transfer the necessary tiddlers.

 I tagged all the tiddlers needed for the customization and then used 
 Advanced Search to export those tiddlers to a JSON. That can then be 
 imported to an empty 
 TiddlyWiki. TaDa, new wiki ready with what I wanted for the base.

 I've shared an example of this custom TiddlyWiki, custom_5-1-8.html - 
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/sh/h8q01y5kygoyhch/AAD0hwllkUF6ivZ5WZ7awzhBa/custom_5-1-8.html

 The JSON with customizations, custom-edition.json - 
 https://www.dropbox.com/sh/h8q01y5kygoyhch/AADJLpqPvbj8ARQSJ2NwYdUya/custom-edition.json?dl=0

 A JSON with sample content, sample-content.json - 
 https://www.dropbox.com/sh/h8q01y5kygoyhch/AABiU_qHWe7_TIWIqQzDgc0pa/sample-content.json?dl=0

 Greg


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[tw] Re: [TW5] Contacts DB

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

You probably don't need any plugins for those tasks

   - You can create a custom new tiddler button as explained here 
   http://tiddlywiki.com/#Page%20and%20tiddler%20layout%20customisation
   - You can use any custom tiddler as view template by tagging it with 
   *$:/tags/ViewTemplate*
   - You can use any custom tiddler as edit template by tagging it with * 
   $:/tags/EditTemplate*
   

On Monday, 27 April 2015 13:59:20 UTC+1, Albert wrote:

 Hello,

 I was browsing for a Contacts DB inspiration and I like very much the 
 approach from Stephan Hradek 
 http://tw5magick.tiddlyspot.com/#Stephan%20Hradek: 
 http://tw5magick.tiddlyspot.com/

 I was wondering if there is something similar that doesn't need to use 
 custom plugins (taking 5.1.8 evolution). 

 I'm just lloking for something that provides the following:

 - new contact button
 - template for editing
 - template for viewing

 Do you have a project that makes use of a Contact Database?

 Thank you very much!

 Albert



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[tw] Re: Tiddlywiki Branding/UI Studies

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

Hi Jed, that is looking extremely cool, great work. The idea about the 
search bar was to keep it always visible even if it isn't the active tab, 
but upon clicking on it or typing a search string it would activate the 
search results tab, muh like it happens here 
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/bTiOu_migHs/OLRZVSKC1jkJ
The search results would be global tiddlywiki ones, not the current tiddler.

@Jeremy Funny that you mention the squint test, posting them here I get a 
much better overview of the mockups provided by the smaller thumbnails some 
times exposing the fragility of the design. The shadow was meant more as a 
visual cue to push the side bar under the main tiddler content, it could 
certainly be much softer or totally eliminated. The colors could also be 
tweaked to emphasize content more. I'll see what I can come up with if I 
get a chance.

On Friday, 24 April 2015 19:33:13 UTC+1, Jed Carty wrote:

 I will leave creating the theme to someone with a better eye for graphic 
 design than I have, but I am working on that sort of popout menu. I have a 
 simple macro version here 
 http://ooktech.com/jed/ExampleWikis/Text%20Menus/upgrade.html, there 
 will need to be some fancier css to set the height and widths correctly, 
 but I don't think that will be too terribly difficult.

 In your mockups the search bar is always present but you have a dedicated 
 search menu. Do you want this to open the search menu whenever you start 
 typing or is it supposed to search through the tab you have open? I could 
 see both being useful.


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[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyWiki version 5.1.8

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

I've had that problem before in one of the pre-release versions, and Jeremy 
said back then it was a bug, and it was solved.
Maybe it crept back in or something else broke it again, not sure, only he 
can tell. Anyway, it's probably nothing wrong you did.

On Saturday, 18 April 2015 23:19:24 UTC+1, Neil Griffin wrote:

 Great to see this release, but I'm having trouble with the upgrader which 
 seems to be breaking all my single quotes (they all appear as #39;).  I 
 have used these in various places around filter strings and in javascript 
 macros and widgets, as well as in normal text, so it is causing me a 
 headache.  Tried in both Firefox and Chrome with the same result.  I also 
 tried downloading an empty TW and creating a tiddler with single quotes 
 which were handled correctly by the upgrader.  I didn't have this problem a 
 few weeks ago when I upgraded my wikis to the prerelease.

 Any ideas what might be going on?  Have I messed up my character encoding 
 or something?

 Cheers,

 Neil.



 On Friday, 17 April 2015 18:00:30 UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

 I'm delighted to announce that TiddlyWiki version 5.1.8 has finally been 
 released to:

 http://tiddlywiki.com/

 Remember to keep careful backups before upgrading existing wikis at:

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Re: [tw] Re: Tiddlywiki Branding/UI Studies

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

Here are two completely different concepts with a vertical bar I happen to 
conjure up today. Still incomplete but I quite like them the way they look.



https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-a6y1WK6Sbt8/VTFPtXT1oSI/JUI/THBD2A4RR-Y/s1600/Tiddlywiki_UI_Mockup22.png


On Friday, 17 April 2015 17:35:33 UTC+1, Matthew DeAbreu wrote:

 Wow! As someone who likes the Muted palette in TiddlyWiki that looks 
 fantastic! Talking about shadows reminded me of Google's Material Design (
 http://www.google.com/design/spec/material-design/introduction.html) and 
 how every element is almost like a piece of paper. The logo you've designed 
 you called it origami which is of course paper; we could skip the 
 skeumorphism and go for a slightly more Material design where everything is 
 layered and they all cast shadows based on their Z positions (and 
 importance) with a consistent sun.

 Now I'm curious to read through the Material Design specs and see if I can 
 get anything interesting.

 On Thursday, April 16, 2015 at 3:32:01 PM UTC-7, Duarte Farrajota Ramos 
 wrote:

 Hi Matthew thanks for the comments, colors are indeed a bit bright, here 
 is a toned down version that is easier on the eyes and steals less 
 attention from the user, and would probably go better as standard palette, 
 then again colors are always meant to be user customizable.
 The shadow is also big, but I feared that if made too small the effect 
 could be lost. I think it can be made slightly smaller by default. I even 
 thought that it could mistakenly signal the user that the interface was 
 somehow blocked or disabled, so maybe it could be made as an effect that 
 would disappear when the toolbar was hovered (?).
 In this version it is about two thirds of the original size, could still 
 shrink further if needed. Also slightly reworked other details including 
 the shrunk sidebar, to have an 'expand arrow' and a 'shrink further' arrow.

   
 
 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-v1ShKeeK3IU/VTA3j-SUfiI/JT4/iYJx88DDyvE/s1600/Tiddlywiki_UI_Mockup21.png






 On Thursday, 16 April 2015 17:57:16 UTC+1, Matthew DeAbreu wrote:

 I really like your mockups, they are absolutely beautiful. I 
 particularly like your logos for TW they are gorgeous!

 Back to the topic at hand, these designs. I agree with Jeremy that the 
 content should be the focus, and to an extent you have accomplished that by 
 using the shadow over the sidebar. My problem with it is that the shadow is 
 very large and despite that the colours are very bold. When I first look at 
 the image my eyes are immediately drawn to the very vibrant colours rather 
 than the content; I see the logo, the tools, the recent tiddlers; then my 
 eyes are drawn to the river and immediately to the title of the tiddler and 
 the tiddler tools and lastly to the content. Now when I try to read the 
 content my eyes keep wandering towards the bright colours.

 I really like the colours but I think they should be accents, little 
 flares of colour to brighten the page and draw your eyes to important 
 things but not bright enough to distract.


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-s9x07M9smxs/VS_mWxLrT0I/IFo/UtCX88ZJo6I/s1600/dokuwiki.png

 As an example here is the homepage of another wiki engine I have used 
 called DokuWiki. You can see they have done the same thing with a drop 
 shadow to make the content stand above the rest of the page but it is 
 subtle and you don't really consciously notice it. If you look at the use 
 of colour it again is very subtle; the logo at the top of the page, the 
 large green download button, the images, and finally the green text that 
 links you to other wiki pages (tiddlers). The rest of the page is a mix of 
 blue and grey; it almost disappears into the background as you read the 
 content and only becomes relevant when it's needed.

 Anyways, that's an end to my ramblings. I'm really looking forward to 
 seeing new and improved designs; and how they will influence the future of 
 TiddlyWiki!

 On Wednesday, April 15, 2015 at 7:18:25 PM UTC-7, Duarte Farrajota Ramos 
 wrote:

 My apologies for the delay in replying, I've been a little busy but 
 finally managed to get back at this.
 So keeping the 'origami' theme and thinking about what you said 
 concerning the separation of content and tools or the sidebar and the 
 tiddler river I came up with the following concept.
 It basically tries to represent the whole sidebar as if in a background 
 planed behind the tiddler river, like it was tucked beneath it (the shadow 
 tries to mimic that). The toolbars and elements behave as ribbons of paper 
 sticking out from behind the tiddler area as bookmarks stick from the side 
 of a book.
 This would emphasize the the importance of the tiddler river as the 
 main content foreground element above the secondary tools under it, while

[tw] Re: Tiddlywiki Branding/UI Studies

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

Hahah not at all, I am glad you like them.
Like I said before my html/css skills are very limited to little more than 
copy pasting other people's work, so I was actually hoping someone would 
eventually actually implement them.
I made these more as mockups at Jeremy's request so, please go ahead and 
steal them :)

On Friday, 17 April 2015 20:15:02 UTC+1, Jed Carty wrote:

 I really like how this looks. I have been trying to figure out how to 
 proceed with the icon menus http://ooktech.com/iconmenus/ I have made. 
 I think that a combination of what you are showing here and the mobile 
 menus talked about in this other thread 
 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywiki/y6C35wtmjrc may be 
 the way to go. For the moment I am not planning on making a full theme like 
 you are showing, just the menu part of it.

 I hope that you posted these in the hope that someone may make them and 
 that you don't have a problem with me shamelessly stealing some of the 
 ideas.


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[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyWiki version 5.1.8

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

Congrats on the new release, lot of cool goodies and new features!
Gonna upgrade my wikis and give them a testdrive!

Thanks for all the dedication and support!

On Friday, 17 April 2015 18:00:30 UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

 I'm delighted to announce that TiddlyWiki version 5.1.8 has finally been 
 released to:

 http://tiddlywiki.com/

 Remember to keep careful backups before upgrading existing wikis at:

 http://tiddlywiki.com/upgrade.html

 This has turned out to be a fairly major new release, with many bug fixes 
 and new features, and many improvements to the documentation:

 * New online plugin library
 * New warning banner when a reload is needed after adding plugins
 * New railroad plugin
 * Eight new languages
 * New facility for setting a page background image
 * Updated KaTeX plugin with improved symbol support
 * New full edition with all new languages and plugins

 See the release note at http://tiddlywiki.com/#Release%205.1.8 for more 
 details.

 I'd like to personally thank everyone who has helped with this release - 
 more individuals than ever before. It's been a difficult time with illness 
 and work, and the gap between releases has stretched far too far, but I'm 
 very happy with the progress we've made with this release. TiddlyWiki seems 
 to be getting better and better.

 As usual, feedback is gratefully received!

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Re: [tw] Re: Tiddlywiki Branding/UI Studies

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

Hi Mathew thanks for the comments, colors are indeed a bit bright, here is 
a toned down version that is easier on the eyes and steals less attention 
from the user, and would probably go better as standard palette, then again 
colors are always meant to be user customizable.
The shadow is also big, but I feared that if made too small the effect 
could be lost. I think it can be made slightly smaller by default. I even 
thought that it could mistakenly signal the user that the interface was 
somehow blocked or disabled, so maybe it could be made as an effect that 
would disappear when the toolbar was hovered (?).
In this version it is about two thirds of the original size, could still 
shrink further if needed. Also slightly reworked other details including 
the shrunk sidebar, to have an 'expand arrow' and a 'shrink further' arrow.


  
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-v1ShKeeK3IU/VTA3j-SUfiI/JT4/iYJx88DDyvE/s1600/Tiddlywiki_UI_Mockup21.png






On Thursday, 16 April 2015 17:57:16 UTC+1, Matthew DeAbreu wrote:

 I really like your mockups, they are absolutely beautiful. I particularly 
 like your logos for TW they are gorgeous!

 Back to the topic at hand, these designs. I agree with Jeremy that the 
 content should be the focus, and to an extent you have accomplished that by 
 using the shadow over the sidebar. My problem with it is that the shadow is 
 very large and despite that the colours are very bold. When I first look at 
 the image my eyes are immediately drawn to the very vibrant colours rather 
 than the content; I see the logo, the tools, the recent tiddlers; then my 
 eyes are drawn to the river and immediately to the title of the tiddler and 
 the tiddler tools and lastly to the content. Now when I try to read the 
 content my eyes keep wandering towards the bright colours.

 I really like the colours but I think they should be accents, little 
 flares of colour to brighten the page and draw your eyes to important 
 things but not bright enough to distract.


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-s9x07M9smxs/VS_mWxLrT0I/IFo/UtCX88ZJo6I/s1600/dokuwiki.png

 As an example here is the homepage of another wiki engine I have used 
 called DokuWiki. You can see they have done the same thing with a drop 
 shadow to make the content stand above the rest of the page but it is 
 subtle and you don't really consciously notice it. If you look at the use 
 of colour it again is very subtle; the logo at the top of the page, the 
 large green download button, the images, and finally the green text that 
 links you to other wiki pages (tiddlers). The rest of the page is a mix of 
 blue and grey; it almost disappears into the background as you read the 
 content and only becomes relevant when it's needed.

 Anyways, that's an end to my ramblings. I'm really looking forward to 
 seeing new and improved designs; and how they will influence the future of 
 TiddlyWiki!

 On Wednesday, April 15, 2015 at 7:18:25 PM UTC-7, Duarte Farrajota Ramos 
 wrote:

 My apologies for the delay in replying, I've been a little busy but 
 finally managed to get back at this.
 So keeping the 'origami' theme and thinking about what you said 
 concerning the separation of content and tools or the sidebar and the 
 tiddler river I came up with the following concept.
 It basically tries to represent the whole sidebar as if in a background 
 planed behind the tiddler river, like it was tucked beneath it (the shadow 
 tries to mimic that). The toolbars and elements behave as ribbons of paper 
 sticking out from behind the tiddler area as bookmarks stick from the side 
 of a book.
 This would emphasize the the importance of the tiddler river as the main 
 content foreground element above the secondary tools under it, while 
 hopefully allowing for a more or less colorful sidebar without stealing so 
 much attention away (or keep the more monochrome tone which I think works 
 very well currently). Here are a few previews with colored or more muted 
 sidebars, in lighter or darker themes.



 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-bnXZj73WIPc/VS8Qy5wlErI/JTI/CWqdIOWf_8A/s1600/Tiddlywiki_UI_Mockup10.png


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-1gKpgrCC0dU/VS8QutZhhcI/JTA/wx_Yz4O92Zw/s1600/Tiddlywiki_UI_Mockup11.png


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-zrH_EKSiWpQ/VS8QqVu5fVI/JS4/OTF119bgfUQ/s1600/Tiddlywiki_UI_Mockup12.png


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-xjspYaau3rE/VS8QTNckVWI/JSg/I-7_i0W_HQ0/s1600/Tiddlywiki_UI_Mockup15.png


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-foI1Up2ELqk/VS8QZ_602JI/JSo/8aPH90D6Md4/s1600/Tiddlywiki_UI_Mockup14.png


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Kk3h01a3gIM/VS8Qhr4CkDI/JSw/aFZ7e-9K4XY/s1600/Tiddlywiki_UI_Mockup13.png


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-v__A8yYKQ-U/VS8QPNtDDvI/JSY/UlIhoElbhH8/s1600/Tiddlywiki_UI_Mockup16.png

 This visual cue has

Re: [tw] Re: Tiddlywiki Branding/UI Studies

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

My apologies for the delay in replying, I've been a little busy but finally 
managed to get back at this.
So keeping the 'origami' theme and thinking about what you said concerning 
the separation of content and tools or the sidebar and the tiddler river I 
came up with the following concept.
It basically tries to represent the whole sidebar as if in a background 
planed behind the tiddler river, like it was tucked beneath it (the shadow 
tries to mimic that). The toolbars and elements behave as ribbons of paper 
sticking out from behind the tiddler area as bookmarks stick from the side 
of a book.
This would emphasize the the importance of the tiddler river as the main 
content foreground element above the secondary tools under it, while 
hopefully allowing for a more or less colorful sidebar without stealing so 
much attention away (or keep the more monochrome tone which I think works 
very well currently). Here are a few previews with colored or more muted 
sidebars, in lighter or darker themes.


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-bnXZj73WIPc/VS8Qy5wlErI/JTI/CWqdIOWf_8A/s1600/Tiddlywiki_UI_Mockup10.png

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-1gKpgrCC0dU/VS8QutZhhcI/JTA/wx_Yz4O92Zw/s1600/Tiddlywiki_UI_Mockup11.png

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-zrH_EKSiWpQ/VS8QqVu5fVI/JS4/OTF119bgfUQ/s1600/Tiddlywiki_UI_Mockup12.png

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-xjspYaau3rE/VS8QTNckVWI/JSg/I-7_i0W_HQ0/s1600/Tiddlywiki_UI_Mockup15.png

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-foI1Up2ELqk/VS8QZ_602JI/JSo/8aPH90D6Md4/s1600/Tiddlywiki_UI_Mockup14.png

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Kk3h01a3gIM/VS8Qhr4CkDI/JSw/aFZ7e-9K4XY/s1600/Tiddlywiki_UI_Mockup13.png

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-v__A8yYKQ-U/VS8QPNtDDvI/JSY/UlIhoElbhH8/s1600/Tiddlywiki_UI_Mockup16.png

This visual cue has the additional advantage that it could be further 
extended in a consistent manner for an hypothetical hide sidebar 
function. When is activated, a small portion of the sidebar could still be 
displayed at the edge of the browser window, with perhaps a few select 
essential tools still tucked under the shadow of the main tiddler view, 
keeping some reduced functionality while enlarging the available view area.






https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-tACY1agMsiU/VS8U479adHI/JTU/4AhPQTflfBo/s1600/Tiddlywiki_UI_Mockup17.png

Ideally this could be done in conjunction with a default centered view for 
the tiddler river, with shadows on both sides, to totally assume it's 
importance as central piece, although I understand this would steals a lot 
of potential sidebar space.
These elements (like the toolbars sticking out, the search bar or even the 
tag pills) could gain a more skeuomorphic form with stronger paper like 
visual (like with stylized bent corners and more shadows), if that's what 
you are looking for, although I think it might be too much for users who 
prefer a simpler look and may spoil the more neutral look.

Other notes:

   - Reworked the tag display to not imply any relationship between them
   - Simplified the icon theme to be less intrusive
   - Ideally tiddler headers would be sticky type 'always visible'
   - Added those 'bookmarks' on the side of the headers as shortcuts for 
   tiddler permalink/permaview or as a 'scroll to top' shortcut
   
 

Let me know what you think, Jeremy, or please share any other ideas or 
expectations you have.

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Re: [tw] TiddlyWiki5 Logo Proposal

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

Haha thanks I am flattered, although I must say I am not exactly a 
designer, I have no formal education in that area.
I am an actually an architect, which happens to have a few basic notions 
and enjoys graphic design a lot. I do what best I can moslty as a hobby or 
for the pleasure of it.

But it's true, it does feel a bit crude, I'll try to work on a more 
complete design solution for the whole visuals, I have a few ideas brewing 
already, which would hopefully not require too deep changes beyond some 
CSS/Ui stuff.
I'll have to stick to SVG and imagery to illustrate it though, my HTML and 
CSS skills are very basic at best, so any real attempts there would always 
be very limited my by lacking skills.

Your excitement is leaving me excited about this too. I'll try to rush my 
current work see if I can squeeze out a mockup during the weekend.

 

 That is what I was thinking. Your existing mockup shows why: inserting the 
 logo into the existing design doesn't seem to be fully satisfying. 


 I appreciate that it is a lot to ask, but we haven't had the pleasure of 
 such a talented designer in the community before. It's the first time that 
 we've had access to the talents of a graphic designer who also knows and 
 understands TiddlyWiki. So, it's exciting for me.

 One option you could explore would be to take the existing Vanilla/Snow 
 White and see if you can bend it into something better. Or, if you 
 preferred, you could think in terms of a completely new theme.
  

 I am a bit busy at the moment, but as usual, the busiest moments are the 
 one that get you head rushing with new ideais you have no time to 
 materialize, so, as time permits, I'll try to work on a more complete 
 mockup of a tiddlywiki with what I hope is a coherent language with the 
 logo and Origami theme.


 Great, thank you, I'll be looking forward to it.

 Best wishes

 Jeremy
  


 Give me some time and I'll post it as soon as I get a break.

 Again thank you all for the feedback


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Re: [tw] TiddlyWiki5 Logo Proposal

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

Thanks for the positive feedback everyone, glad to see my work appreciated. 
:)

@AlexHough
A moebius strip combined with the origami languange could definitely give 
something interesting too. hummm... :-L


@ Danielo Rodríguez
Sorry for the filesize, hope it didn't break your bandwidth, but I am sure 
Google servers can handle it. ;)
Jeremy had asked for a more global view and I wanted to preserve as much of 
the original content as possible to keep all in context.

About the deeper change, I was a bit shy in making deeper changes, most 
developers aren't very fond of redical changes to their beloved sofwares 
and UI, but I'm beginning to think that Jeremy wanted a full design mockup 
of a TiddlyWiki frontpage.
I am a bit busy at the moment, but as usual, the busiest moments are the 
one that get you head rushing with new ideais you have no time to 
materialize, so, as time permits, I'll try to work on a more complete 
mockup of a tiddlywiki with what I hope is a coherent language with the 
logo and Origami theme.

Give me some time and I'll post it as soon as I get a break.

Again thank you all for the feedback


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Re: [tw] TiddlyWiki5 Logo Proposal

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

Thanks for the comments guys, very glad you like my concepts.

Hey Jeremy, I'm really happy that you liked the idea, and glad that you 
appreciate the work. Some some times the best concepts just naturally spurt 
out, and this one had been laying in the back of my head brewing for few 
days now.
Sure, I'd love to do some more work in it, if you feel this is going 
anywhere in the right direction, perhaps clean up the design a bit, and 
maybe introduce it in a tiddlywiki itself and see how it goes along with 
the design.

Perhaps work on the default palette a bit to make a little matching work? 
I've seen a pretty strong inclination towards the monochrome versions so 
I'll probably start there.

I think I may be having another TiddlyWiki induced slow day at work again 
:)


On Tuesday, 7 April 2015 08:01:12 UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

 Hi Duarte

 Terrific work, I do like them a lot, particularly the monochrome one on a 
 red background. I'm curious whether you'd be interested in expanding the 
 scope of your sketch to show the entire front page. I appreciate it's a lot 
 more work, but I'd be very interested to see how you'd approach the 
 totality of the visual language of TiddlyWiki.

 Best wishes

 Jeremy.



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 Hey guys
 I know this has been discussed before many times, I've read about it here 
 in the forums, and I know this horse has already been beaten to death 
 several times and no acceptable closure came from it, but I was feeling  
 inspired so I decided to give it a shot.

 You know how tiddlywiki is comprised of small very simple bits of text 
 called tiddlers that once together linked in specific ways with little more 
 than the text itself turn into a powerful whole that is TiddlyWiki?
 This is similar to how you can take notes in a single sheet of paper, but 
 if you grab that paper and fold it around in specific ways you can get very 
 beautiful and complex Origami structures with nothing more than the paper 
 itself.
 I was feeling bored, and having a slow day at work, so inspired by 
 Origami I made these example logos just for fun. Maybe Jeremy likes them, 
 maybe this works as a catalyst to help figure out what he want's, or 
 perhaps it inspires some other members with more skills than me to make 
 something better ;)

 Anyway here they are, made in Inkscape, so they would be availabe as 
 plain SVGs that could be embedded in TiddlyWiki without much size penalty.


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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki5 Logo Proposal

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

Very interesting, those effects are all pretty cool, amazing what CS can 
do. They are way beyond my skill level though. I only knew about CSS 
shapes, which are basically almost the same as SVG.
Mine would be SVGs, so technically there would be any binary image data 
embedded, though these CSS tricks could be a mighty alternative.

On Tuesday, 7 April 2015 16:23:14 UTC+1, Mat wrote:

 Graphics man Duarte strikes again! Great work! ;-)

 In fiddling with some stuff I found this site 
 http://www.realcombiz.com/2013/10/20-amazing-css3-text-effects-you.html 
 that lists various way to format text using CSS into quite amazing things. 
 I find the thought of using code, rather than an image, to produce a logo. 
 I'm guessing it would save some kb's too. With the right knowledge I would 
 think your drafts could be reproduced.

 Thougths?

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[tw] Re: A note on a (Firefox specific) bug and a UX impediment that somebody (maybe me :-)) might want to pick up once

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

I've found myself bumping into the secnd bug very ofgten, press the down 
key would indeed be a very nice feature tu be able to selct the entries 
from the list.
Also pressing enter could enter either the typed text or the first entry on 
the list.

On Tuesday, 7 April 2015 18:22:41 UTC+1, Patrick Pfeifer wrote:

 1. The tiddlywiki.com link at the top of the static export pages is not 
 clickable in Firefox, e.g. http://tiddlywiki.com/static/HelloThere.html
 2. When I want to add an existing tag to a tiddler, I go to the tag input 
 field and start typing. Then I select the tag from the drop-down list. 
 Intuitively, I would want to select it with the keyboard, i.e. using the 
 arrow down key. However, at least in Firefox this does not work, as the 
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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki5 Logo Proposal

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

Hey Felix, thanks for the coment.
The mono versions were more as an alternate representation of the same 
logo, for contexts where full color representation is undesirable or 
impractical, but glad you like it. They sure could stand as the main logo 
by themselves :)
And I think they can actually get pretty good readability even at lower 
resolutions like 16x16 pixels, suitable icons or for a favicon, check it 
out: 
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-LC_Bb2SHZNs/VSMagWTYH1I/JNo/Up1ByZQheBk/s1600/TWLogo_16.png




On Monday, 6 April 2015 23:04:25 UTC+1, Felix Küppers wrote:

 Hi Duarte,

 Looks really nice. My favourites are the mono ones (especially 
 TWLogo_2048_MonoBlue).


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Re: [tw] Re: HELP URGENT- the TW for #1 Lirpa is running amok!!!

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

Hahaha good one! You got me here

On Wednesday, 1 April 2015 12:22:35 UTC+1, Felix Küppers wrote:

 Hi Mat,

 I am not seing the user problem inside data / code maybe a tip? Do you 
 mean the error Title at the top? You can set you own title using the

  $:/SiteTitle

 property

 As a side remark: I would remove the endless loop of the ant in the 
 bottom. Yes, it is funny at first sight but then it gets really 
 distracting. Especially when I am looking at your wiki since a long time.

 -Felix


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[tw] Re: New Google Group Settings

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

Hello Jeremy sorry to dig up such an old post, but one thing I've noticed 
from other Google groups is that in the reply notification emails there is 
a direct link to view the conversation on the web
It reads something like To view this discussion on the web visit followed 
by a direct link to the relevant thread, which I find to be a very quick 
and useful shortcut.
I was wondering if there's any group setting there that can enable this in 
this group, currently it only links to unsubscribe, and a few more.



On Wednesday, 28 January 2015 09:09:55 UTC, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

 Arc Acorn discovered that Google Groups has several permission settings 
 that I didn't know about. I've now made the following configuration changes 
 to both of these discussion groups:

 ! Posting Permissions

 Change Add references from None to All members of group. I've no 
 idea what references are but thought they may be worth exploring

 Change Post Announcements from None to All members of group. Might 
 be useful (we may want to restrict it to managers, I guess)

 Change Me Too Topic from None to All members of group.

 Change Post Rich Text Format from None to All members of group.

 ! Moderation Permissions

 Change Edit Own Posts from None to All members of group

 Change Mark Duplicate from None to All members of group

 Change Mark Favorite Reply On Any Other User's Topics from None to 
 All members of group

 Let me know how it goes,

 Best wishes

 Jeremy

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[tw] Re: New Google Group Settings

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

Thanks for enabling it, makes visiting the group a lot easier. :)

On Wednesday, 1 April 2015 12:13:21 UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

 Hi Duarte

 Thanks for the suggestion, you were quite right, there is a setting to add 
 a link to the message, now enabled both for [tw] and [twdev].

 This topic came up in the hangout this week, prompted by Mat having edited 
 a post after he'd sent it, and me only seeing the original, uncorrected 
 email version of the posting. I'm beginning to see that this rather 
 pernicious problem may lie behind the decision of some groups to 
 intentionally disable editing of posts (perhaps except by administrators).

 Best wishes

 Jeremy






 On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Duarte Farrajota Ramos 
 duarte...@gmail.com javascript: wrote:

 Hello Jeremy sorry to dig up such an old post, but one thing I've noticed 
 from other Google groups is that in the reply notification emails there is 
 a direct link to view the conversation on the web
 It reads something like To view this discussion on the web visit 
 followed by a direct link to the relevant thread, which I find to be a very 
 quick and useful shortcut.
 I was wondering if there's any group setting there that can enable this 
 in this group, currently it only links to unsubscribe, and a few more.




 On Wednesday, 28 January 2015 09:09:55 UTC, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

 Arc Acorn discovered that Google Groups has several permission settings 
 that I didn't know about. I've now made the following configuration changes 
 to both of these discussion groups:

 ! Posting Permissions

 Change Add references from None to All members of group. I've no 
 idea what references are but thought they may be worth exploring

 Change Post Announcements from None to All members of group. Might 
 be useful (we may want to restrict it to managers, I guess)

 Change Me Too Topic from None to All members of group.

 Change Post Rich Text Format from None to All members of group.

 ! Moderation Permissions

 Change Edit Own Posts from None to All members of group

 Change Mark Duplicate from None to All members of group

 Change Mark Favorite Reply On Any Other User's Topics from None to 
 All members of group

 Let me know how it goes,

 Best wishes

 Jeremy

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[tw] Re: New Google Group Settings

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

Hey wait, is it in effect already? These two latest notification emails 
don't show any links at all, not even the old unsubscribe ones.

On Wednesday, 1 April 2015 12:27:27 UTC+1, Duarte Farrajota Ramos wrote:

 Thanks for enabling it, makes visiting the group a lot easier. :)

 On Wednesday, 1 April 2015 12:13:21 UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

 Hi Duarte

 Thanks for the suggestion, you were quite right, there is a setting to 
 add a link to the message, now enabled both for [tw] and [twdev].

 This topic came up in the hangout this week, prompted by Mat having 
 edited a post after he'd sent it, and me only seeing the original, 
 uncorrected email version of the posting. I'm beginning to see that this 
 rather pernicious problem may lie behind the decision of some groups to 
 intentionally disable editing of posts (perhaps except by administrators).

 Best wishes

 Jeremy






 On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Duarte Farrajota Ramos 
 duarte...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello Jeremy sorry to dig up such an old post, but one thing I've 
 noticed from other Google groups is that in the reply notification emails 
 there is a direct link to view the conversation on the web
 It reads something like To view this discussion on the web visit 
 followed by a direct link to the relevant thread, which I find to be a very 
 quick and useful shortcut.
 I was wondering if there's any group setting there that can enable this 
 in this group, currently it only links to unsubscribe, and a few more.




 On Wednesday, 28 January 2015 09:09:55 UTC, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

 Arc Acorn discovered that Google Groups has several permission settings 
 that I didn't know about. I've now made the following configuration 
 changes 
 to both of these discussion groups:

 ! Posting Permissions

 Change Add references from None to All members of group. I've no 
 idea what references are but thought they may be worth exploring

 Change Post Announcements from None to All members of group. 
 Might be useful (we may want to restrict it to managers, I guess)

 Change Me Too Topic from None to All members of group.

 Change Post Rich Text Format from None to All members of group.

 ! Moderation Permissions

 Change Edit Own Posts from None to All members of group

 Change Mark Duplicate from None to All members of group

 Change Mark Favorite Reply On Any Other User's Topics from None to 
 All members of group

 Let me know how it goes,

 Best wishes

 Jeremy

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[tw] Re: New Google Group Settings

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

They are back now. indeed it probably needed some time to settle down.
I'd also vote for keeping the editing around, since I like keeping 
notifications in my email for convenience, but I end up always checking the 
replies in the web version anyway.
Old habits from those forums which say a new post has been made, you will 
receive no further notifications until you visit ### , also helpful in 
this case because of possible editing.

On Wednesday, 1 April 2015 13:31:41 UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

 Hi Duarte

 On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Duarte Farrajota Ramos 
 duarte...@gmail.com javascript: wrote:

 Hey wait, is it in effect already? These two latest notification emails 
 don't show any links at all, not even the old unsubscribe ones.


 I'm also seeing empty footers, and yet the web interface is showing the 
 intended settings. Perhaps it needs time to settle down,

 Best wishes

 Jeremy

  



 On Wednesday, 1 April 2015 12:27:27 UTC+1, Duarte Farrajota Ramos wrote:

 Thanks for enabling it, makes visiting the group a lot easier. :)

 On Wednesday, 1 April 2015 12:13:21 UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

 Hi Duarte

 Thanks for the suggestion, you were quite right, there is a setting to 
 add a link to the message, now enabled both for [tw] and [twdev].

 This topic came up in the hangout this week, prompted by Mat having 
 edited a post after he'd sent it, and me only seeing the original, 
 uncorrected email version of the posting. I'm beginning to see that this 
 rather pernicious problem may lie behind the decision of some groups to 
 intentionally disable editing of posts (perhaps except by administrators).

 Best wishes

 Jeremy






 On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Duarte Farrajota Ramos 
 duarte...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello Jeremy sorry to dig up such an old post, but one thing I've 
 noticed from other Google groups is that in the reply notification emails 
 there is a direct link to view the conversation on the web
 It reads something like To view this discussion on the web visit 
 followed by a direct link to the relevant thread, which I find to be a 
 very 
 quick and useful shortcut.
 I was wondering if there's any group setting there that can enable 
 this in this group, currently it only links to unsubscribe, and a few 
 more.




 On Wednesday, 28 January 2015 09:09:55 UTC, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

 Arc Acorn discovered that Google Groups has several permission 
 settings that I didn't know about. I've now made the following 
 configuration changes to both of these discussion groups:

 ! Posting Permissions

 Change Add references from None to All members of group. I've 
 no idea what references are but thought they may be worth exploring

 Change Post Announcements from None to All members of group. 
 Might be useful (we may want to restrict it to managers, I guess)

 Change Me Too Topic from None to All members of group.

 Change Post Rich Text Format from None to All members of group.

 ! Moderation Permissions

 Change Edit Own Posts from None to All members of group

 Change Mark Duplicate from None to All members of group

 Change Mark Favorite Reply On Any Other User's Topics from None 
 to All members of group

 Let me know how it goes,

 Best wishes

 Jeremy

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Re: [tw] Re: HELP URGENT- the TW for #1 Lirpa is running amok!!!

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

Hahahah good one!
He does suffer from heavy breathing though, maybe he has asthma or 
sinusitis or some other respiratory problem, maybe salt sea water helps, I 
dunno.

On Wednesday, 1 April 2015 16:33:38 UTC+1, Felix Küppers wrote:

 Thanks Duarte. 

 In that case I'll go with a funny picture which shall convey the following 
 message - Just like Darth Vader effectively filters/cleans the sea water, I 
 rinse off the shame of this day:


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-uBgR7Xq6ZdM/VRwO8E23-7I/AFA/Ns3RHP_sGSk/s1600/6a0120a8f8e2b8970b01a3fcdf27a1970b.jpg

 -Felix


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Re: [tw] Re: HELP URGENT- the TW for #1 Lirpa is running amok!!!

[Duarte Farrajota Ramos]

Posting funny and/or cat pictures is known to remove shame stains very 
effectively :D

On Wednesday, 1 April 2015 15:48:06 UTC+1, Felix Küppers wrote:



 On Wednesday, April 1, 2015 at 4:01:21 PM UTC+2, Mat wrote:


 I am not seing the user problem inside data / code maybe a tip?

  
 = I am nots t u p i dm a t

  
 Hehe, those letters are a obviously a mere coincidental post-factual 
 rationalization. We know what we saw, and we saw a totally stressed out 
 Felix trying to save the whole EU but getting distracted from that bug that 
 wouldn't go away no matter how much you rubbed.


 Mat! You shall be damned for all eternity for making an honest man look 
 like a fool! How can I ever wash that shame of my virtual skin?


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