[tw5] Re: HammerWidgets - Actions on Swipe, Pan, Press, Tap and Pinch

[JD]

>
> what does adding 
> 
>  user-select: text !important; 
>
> to the element that should be made swipeable?
>

This works! I tried it on your swipable sidebar over at MuriTest, thanks!

 

> Because of the text-select blocking I prefer using the 
> top/left/right/bottom unused space of tiddlers for swipe actions
> The blocking of user-select is an important part for hammerjs to work 
> better ... I think if it selects the text every time you swipe, you 
> wouldn't be happy either
>

Yeah, I imagined applying the above idea to my mobile workflow, where 
text-selection is triggered by long press. But in touch-enabled desktop, 
yeah, I can see how text-selection can be disruptive :)

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[tw5] Re: HammerWidgets - Actions on Swipe, Pan, Press, Tap and Pinch

[BurningTreeC]

>
> Hi, BTC
>
> I noticed that text inside the target-div inside the swipe widget isn't 
> selectable. 
>

Yes, that's something hammerjs disables by default, because swiping would 
then select text, too - and that's not wanted in most of the cases
 

> Is there a work-around to this that I'm missing?
>

I could make something that can be passed to the widget to disable it - 
I'll have to see
You could try a css tweak:

what does adding 

 user-select: text !important; 

to the element that should be made swipeable?

>
> I'm thinking of creating a position:absolute height:100% width:100% view 
> template with the swipe widget that will enable swipe-left to close 
> tiddler, and swipe-right to edit tiddler, but I want to retain the ability 
> to select text. Is this possible? 
>

Because of the text-select blocking I prefer using the 
top/left/right/bottom unused space of tiddlers for swipe actions
The blocking of user-select is an important part for hammerjs to work 
better ... I think if it selects the text every time you swipe, you 
wouldn't be happy either


BTC 

>
>
>
> On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 9:29:16 PM UTC+9, BurningTreeC wrote:
>>
>> ... and the Pinch widget is online, too
>>
>> some small changes may be made the next days on some widgets the next 
>> days. nothing big - cleaning up and looking for errors
>>
>> BTC
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: HammerWidgets - Actions on Swipe, Pan, Press, Tap and Pinch

[JD]

Hi, BTC

I noticed that text inside the target-div inside the swipe widget isn't 
selectable. Is there a work-around to this that I'm missing?

I'm thinking of creating a position:absolute height:100% width:100% view 
template with the swipe widget that will enable swipe-left to close 
tiddler, and swipe-right to edit tiddler, but I want to retain the ability 
to select text. Is this possible? 



On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 9:29:16 PM UTC+9, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> ... and the Pinch widget is online, too
>
> some small changes may be made the next days on some widgets the next 
> days. nothing big - cleaning up and looking for errors
>
> BTC
>

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[tw5] Re: HammerWidgets - Actions on Swipe, Pan, Press, Tap and Pinch

[BurningTreeC]

... and the Pinch widget is online, too

some small changes may be made the next days on some widgets the next days. 
nothing big - cleaning up and looking for errors

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Re: [tw5] Re: HammerWidgets - Actions on Swipe, Pan, Press, Tap and Pinch

[Jan Johannpeter]

Hello Simon,
I will need some time to see what is best.
I think I will change the story-left with that techinque.

Yours Jan

2018-04-09 10:47 GMT+02:00 BurningTreeC :

> Hi Simon,
>> very good that this seems to be possible...But I would like to see the
>> sidebar being dragged before snapping back or snapping away when lifting
>> the finger.
>> The whole thing ist not vitally necessary of course but it feels better
>> in the user experience...
>>
>> Regarding the div to drag/pan in the menu when it is turned off... I
>> thought about that, the problem is that it is either so small that you risk
>> accidentally triggering the jump-back-in-history-mechanism which is
>> implemented in most of the mobile browsers...or it is takink to much space.
>> I would like to use the entire story-river to drag in the menu on a
>> mobile screen. On bigger screens I would take the left margin of the
>> tiddler - as you did for the slidebar
>>
>> Herzliche Grüße
>> Jan
>>
>> Hi Jan ,
>
> The problem here is not if it's possible or not, but that it's possible to
> do in so many different ways
> It's a combination of two/three plugins and some css calculations all
> working together
>
> The first thing one should understand here is, that the pan widget gives
> you the coordinates in pixels in the state tiddler (center-x field)
> By transcluding that field in a stylesheet you can pan on an element and
> set the position of that element or another element to that new position
>
> for example:
>
> .tc-tiddler-frame {
> position: absolute;
> left: {{$:/state/pan!!center-x}}px;
> }
>
> now if you add the <$pan $targets="tc-tiddler-frame"> in the
> $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate before the >> then you
> should be able to move tiddlers left/right
> If not, then it needs only some css adjustments
>
>
>
> What I want to say is, that it's important to first understand how these
> parts work together,
> then it's an easy thing to realize your ideas
>
> Simon
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Re: [tw5] Re: HammerWidgets - Actions on Swipe, Pan, Press, Tap and Pinch

[BurningTreeC]

>
> Hi Simon,
> very good that this seems to be possible...But I would like to see the 
> sidebar being dragged before snapping back or snapping away when lifting 
> the finger. 
> The whole thing ist not vitally necessary of course but it feels better in 
> the user experience...
>
> Regarding the div to drag/pan in the menu when it is turned off... I 
> thought about that, the problem is that it is either so small that you risk 
> accidentally triggering the jump-back-in-history-mechanism which is 
> implemented in most of the mobile browsers...or it is takink to much space.
> I would like to use the entire story-river to drag in the menu on a mobile 
> screen. On bigger screens I would take the left margin of the tiddler - as 
> you did for the slidebar
>
> Herzliche Grüße
> Jan
>
> Hi Jan , 

The problem here is not if it's possible or not, but that it's possible to 
do in so many different ways 
It's a combination of two/three plugins and some css calculations all 
working together 

The first thing one should understand here is, that the pan widget gives 
you the coordinates in pixels in the state tiddler (center-x field)
By transcluding that field in a stylesheet you can pan on an element and 
set the position of that element or another element to that new position

for example:

.tc-tiddler-frame {
position: absolute;
left: {{$:/state/pan!!center-x}}px;
}

now if you add the <$pan $targets="tc-tiddler-frame"> in the 
$:/core/ui/ViewTemplate before the >> then you 
should be able to move tiddlers left/right
If not, then it needs only some css adjustments 



What I want to say is, that it's important to first understand how these 
parts work together,
then it's an easy thing to realize your ideas

Simon

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Re: [tw5] Re: HammerWidgets - Actions on Swipe, Pan, Press, Tap and Pinch

[Jan Johannpeter]

 Hi Simon,
very good that this seems to be possible...But I would like to see the
sidebar being dragged before snapping back or snapping away when lifting
the finger.
The whole thing ist not vitally necessary of course but it feels better in
the user experience...

Regarding the div to drag/pan in the menu when it is turned off... I
thought about that, the problem is that it is either so small that you risk
accidentally triggering the jump-back-in-history-mechanism which is
implemented in most of the mobile browsers...or it is takink to much space.
I would like to use the entire story-river to drag in the menu on a mobile
screen. On bigger screens I would take the left margin of the tiddler - as
you did for the slidebar

Herzliche Grüße
Jan



2018-04-09 9:17 GMT+02:00 BurningTreeC :

> @Jan ... with my example, when the left bar is hidden, there's nothing to
> bring it back by panning
>
> It's better to create a div that's always there, like the slidebar, and
> assign the pan widget to that div
>
> when the left bar is off, it should be at the left screen border, when the
> bar is on, it should be where the bar ends
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Re: [tw5] Re: HammerWidgets - Actions on Swipe, Pan, Press, Tap and Pinch

[BurningTreeC]

@Jan ... with my example, when the left bar is hidden, there's nothing to 
bring it back by panning

It's better to create a div that's always there, like the slidebar, and 
assign the pan widget to that div

when the left bar is off, it should be at the left screen border, when the 
bar is on, it should be where the bar ends


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Re: [tw5] Re: HammerWidgets - Actions on Swipe, Pan, Press, Tap and Pinch

[BurningTreeC]

>
> Hi Simon,
> I am absolutely amazed how much you accomplished ... and I am proud you 
> linked smarties.tiddlyspot.com as a reference. I would like to update 
> which plugins and tiddlers will be necessary for the sidebar after the 
> great update of TW.
>
> Looking at the great UX of the SlideBar, I would I would like to switch to 
> the pan widget for the left menu as well because it explains itself so much 
> better in the experience. 
>
> But I think I still would like to have a feature that could enhance the 
> widget for this:
>
> I would like to have a threshold for the endaction to have this effect:
>
> If I pan the menu it beginns to move out. If pan less then 100px it snaps 
> back, if I pan more than 100px it snaps out completely.
>
> Could you make this possible?
>
> -Jan
>
>>
>> Hi Jan, yes that's possible to accomplish

You can use the whole left bar as a pan element

then the endactions will look like this: 

<$vars snapLimit="100" pointerPosition={{pan-state-tiddler!!center-x}}>
<$vars positionBelowLimitCheck=<>, 
<>)">>>
<$list filter="[regexp[^TRUE$]]">
set left bar off

<$list filter="[!regexp[^TRUE$]]">
set left bar on




this will not move the left bar with the pointer, it will just jump from on 
to off and vice-versa


Is that what you want to accomplish?
 
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Re: [tw5] Re: HammerWidgets - Actions on Swipe, Pan, Press, Tap and Pinch

[Jan Johannpeter]

Hi Simon,
I am absolutely amazed how much you accomplished ... and I am proud you
linked smarties.tiddlyspot.com as a reference. I would like to update which
plugins and tiddlers will be necessary for the sidebar after the great
update of TW.

Looking at the great UX of the SlideBar, I would I would like to switch to
the pan widget for the left menu as well because it explains itself so much
better in the experience.

But I think I still would like to have a feature that could enhance the
widget for this:

I would like to have a threshold for the endaction to have this effect:

If I pan the menu it beginns to move out. If pan less then 100px it snaps
back, if I pan more than 100px it snaps out completely.

Could you make this possible?

-Jan


BurningTreeC  schrieb am So. 8. Apr. 2018 um
20:00:

> I love how simple these widgets are! thank you!
>>
>> The Tap and Swipe widgets are really cool. I have them running on my Material
>> Theme  demo on the FAB button.
>>
>> Swipe up to reveal the secondary FABs. Tapping any of them will hide them
>> again (or swipe down to hide them). May that demo page act as a demo for 
>> *these
>> *widgets as well.
>>
>> As for theme plugin packaging, do I simply include the widgets on my
>> theme package, or add them as dependents? Thanks!
>>
>>
>> Thanks JD, I've tested them on your page, awesome how they work with the
> FAB Buttons and the sidebar!
>
> I don't know yet how to package them, should they be single plugins or a
> plugin with all of them?
>
> You can however package them how you like, that's no problem
>
> BTC
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[tw5] Re: HammerWidgets - Actions on Swipe, Pan, Press, Tap and Pinch

[BurningTreeC]

>
> I love how simple these widgets are! thank you! 
>
> The Tap and Swipe widgets are really cool. I have them running on my Material 
> Theme  demo on the FAB button.
>
> Swipe up to reveal the secondary FABs. Tapping any of them will hide them 
> again (or swipe down to hide them). May that demo page act as a demo for 
> *these 
> *widgets as well.
>
> As for theme plugin packaging, do I simply include the widgets on my theme 
> package, or add them as dependents? Thanks!
>
>
> Thanks JD, I've tested them on your page, awesome how they work with the 
FAB Buttons and the sidebar!

I don't know yet how to package them, should they be single plugins or a 
plugin with all of them?

You can however package them how you like, that's no problem

BTC

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[tw5] Re: HammerWidgets - Actions on Swipe, Pan, Press, Tap and Pinch

[BurningTreeC]

>
> Added to the TiddlyWiki toolmap under Mobile tools. Great stuff.
>
> Thanks David, much appreciated!

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[tw5] Re: HammerWidgets - Actions on Swipe, Pan, Press, Tap and Pinch

[JD]

I love how simple these widgets are! thank you! 

The Tap and Swipe widgets are really cool. I have them running on my Material 
Theme  demo on the FAB button.

Swipe up to reveal the secondary FABs. Tapping any of them will hide them 
again (or swipe down to hide them). May that demo page act as a demo for *these 
*widgets as well.

As for theme plugin packaging, do I simply include the widgets on my theme 
package, or add them as dependents? Thanks!



On Sunday, April 8, 2018 at 7:51:52 PM UTC+9, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> Hi, I've updated my Gesture Widgets that use the hammer.js library (now in 
> the tiddlywiki plugin library)
>
> They allow triggering actions when Swipe, Pan, Press, Tap or Pinch(Rotate) 
> Gestures are recognized
>
> You can use them on any html tag like , ,  ... 
>
> The element needs a css class and that class needs to be passed to the 
> hammer widget with $targets="class-of-the-element(s)"
>
>
> You'll find the docs and widgets on http://hammerwidgets.tiddlyspot.com
>
>
>
> For bug reports, help and comments just leave a message in this thread
>
> BurningTreeC
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[tw5] Re: HammerWidgets - Actions on Swipe, Pan, Press, Tap and Pinch

[David Gifford]

Added to the TiddlyWiki toolmap under Mobile tools. Great stuff.

On Sunday, April 8, 2018 at 5:51:52 AM UTC-5, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> Hi, I've updated my Gesture Widgets that use the hammer.js library (now in 
> the tiddlywiki plugin library)
>
> They allow triggering actions when Swipe, Pan, Press, Tap or Pinch(Rotate) 
> Gestures are recognized
>
> You can use them on any html tag like , ,  ... 
>
> The element needs a css class and that class needs to be passed to the 
> hammer widget with $targets="class-of-the-element(s)"
>
>
> You'll find the docs and widgets on http://hammerwidgets.tiddlyspot.com
>
>
>
> For bug reports, help and comments just leave a message in this thread
>
> BurningTreeC
>

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[tw5] Re: HammerWidgets - Actions on Swipe, Pan, Press, Tap and Pinch

[BurningTreeC]

>
> What the...!!! Wow! That should really enable a UI face lift and adaption 
> to the mobile screen age!
>
> now a tiddlywiki core plugin
>
>
> Unclear what you mean with this. For one thing, the core is a plugin and 
> it is the only plugin that default/empty TW comes installed with. I'm 
> guessing the hammer library will not come with 'empty' by deafult?
>

Sorry, I'll edit this. I mean it's in the tiddlywiki plugin library 

>
> Will hammer enable freely scattered tiddlers like in Cecily TW? (I fail to 
> find a link to Cecily)
>

Yes I already tried that. The pan widget is a multi-talent and I recommend 
using that. It will need some CSS and formula calculations, but it's doable 

>
> Thank you BurningTreeC. May you never burn out.
>
> <:-)
>

Thanks Mat, trying to keep the fire burning  

>
>
> p.s I can't help but feel this somehow should be applicable for my TidBitz 
> experiments. BTW, I've continued to dabble around but fail to get anywhere 
> meaningful.
>
> Yeah, I was thinking if the pan widget maybe can be used as a drag 
thing, maybe someone comes up with a neat solution
For your TidBitz I'll make a demo for my last solution I sent you when I 
find the time

BTC

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[tw5] Re: HammerWidgets - Actions on Swipe, Pan, Press, Tap and Pinch

[BurningTreeC]

>
> I am not sure how I am going to use this but it sounds great.
>
> Please publish some simple use cases and example so the those of us less 
> familular at using this tech can access it.
>
> Good work
> Tony
>

Thanks Tony,
I'm planning to use them on the page for more real-worls use-cases
Right now each plugin has a doc tiddler with an example

@JD over at http://j.d.material.tiddlyspot.com is using the swipe widget 
for the FAB button in the bottom right corner and for showing/hiding the 
sidebar (swipe from the right screen edge/swipe from the left screen edge)

http://smarties.tiddlyspot.com uses the pan widget to move the sidebar

http://panflex.tiddlyspot.com uses the pan widget to show 
top/bottom/left/right panels

http://tiddlypiano.tiddlyspot.com uses the press widget to create kind of a 
piano with tuba sounds


The most recent and stable versions of the widgets are on the new page, and 
there they should be retrieved

BTC

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[tw5] Re: HammerWidgets - Actions on Swipe, Pan, Press, Tap and Pinch

[Mat]

What the...!!! Wow! That should really enable a UI face lift and adaption 
to the mobile screen age!

now a tiddlywiki core plugin


Unclear what you mean with this. For one thing, the core is a plugin and it 
is the only plugin that default/empty TW comes installed with. I'm guessing 
the hammer library will not come with 'empty' by deafult?

Will hammer enable freely scattered tiddlers like in Cecily TW? (I fail to 
find a link to Cecily)

Thank you BurningTreeC. May you never burn out.

<:-)


p.s I can't help but feel this somehow should be applicable for my TidBitz 
experiments. BTW, I've continued to dabble around but fail to get anywhere 
meaningful.

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[tw5] Re: HammerWidgets - Actions on Swipe, Pan, Press, Tap and Pinch

[TonyM]

I am not sure how I am going to use this but it sounds great.

Please publish some simple use cases and example so the those of us less 
familular at using this tech can access it.

Good work
Tony

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[tw5] Re: HammerWidgets - Actions on Swipe, Pan, Press, Tap and Pinch

[BurningTreeC]

...Pinch is coming soon!

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