Re: [tips] Martin Bolt
This braying j**kass has no idea what he is talking about. Doesn't know a damn thing about Bolt. Just making more insulting noise. So kick me off the list for saying it. It's the truth. Nancy Melucci Long Beach City College Martin Bolt is a good example of the Eurocentric consensus in psychology and so are the other social psychologists like Pedigree and Aronson.The group processes idea of social psychology and its underpinnings are a reflection of a paradigm that failed to take into account the unique African-American perspective. His works are interesting reading but one should be cognizant of the historical context. -Original Message- From: Jim Matiya jmat...@hotmail.com To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) tips@acsun.frostburg.edu Sent: Sun, Dec 27, 2009 5:51 am Subject: RE: [tips] Martin Bolt Dear Michael, This good man died of cancer at an early age. Have some mercy. Jim Matiya Florida Gulf Coast University jmat...@fgcu.edu From: msylves...@copper.net To: tips@acsun.frostburg.edu Subject: [tips] Martin Bolt Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 00:23:23 -0500 Martin Bolt is a good example of the Eurocentric consensus in psychology and so are the other social psychologists like Pedigree and Aronson.The group processes idea of social psychology and its underpinnings are a reflection of a paradigm that failed to take into account the unique African-American perspective. His works are interesting reading but one should be cognizant of the historical context. Michael omnicentric Sylvester,PhD Daytona Beach,Florida --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu)
Re: [tips] Fwd: My Twelve Days of Tipsmas
I am flattered that people still remember this one. Thanks. I hope you all survive your remaining finals, and have a peaceful and wonderful sectarian winter festival of your preference. Nancy M. Long Beach City College - and so much more. -Original Message- From: Christopher D. Green chri...@yorku.ca To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) tips@acsun.frostburg.edu Sent: Thu, Dec 17, 2009 5:10 pm Subject: Re: [tips] Fwd: My Twelve Days of Tipsmas Heaux, Heaux, Heaux! (That's how we do it in Canada.) Chris Green York U. Toronto = tay...@sandiego.edu wrote: Every year I like to dig this one out and laugh at it. Things haven't changed too, too much in 11 years! Thanks, Nancy. Annette Annette Kujawski Taylor, Ph.D. rofessor of Psychology niversity of San Diego 998 Alcala Park an Diego, CA 92110 19-260-4006 ay...@sandiego.edu --- o make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) Subject: My Twelve Days of Tipsmas From: drna...@aol.com Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 17:38:49 EST To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences tips@acsun.frostburg.edu To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences tips@acsun.frostburg.edu I am in a self-promoting mood. Here again for you all is my 1998 12 days contribution. Those of you who are familiar with it can delete, those of you who are new to the list, I hope you enjoy it. On the first day of Tipsmas I posted to the list a view that got everyone pissed. On the second day of Tipsmas we posted to the list 2 quotes from Freud and a view that got everyone pissed On the third day of Tipsmas we posted to the list 3 wisecracks 2 quotes from Freud and a view that got everyone pissed On the fourth day of Tipsmas we posted to the list 4 complaints to Bill 3 wisecracks 2 quotes from Freud and a view that got everyone pissed On the fifth day of Tipsmas we posted to the list (real loud now) 5 RANDOM THOUGHTS 4 complaints to Bill 3 wisecracks 2 quotes from Freud and a view that got everyone pissed On the sixth day of Tipsmas, we posted to the list 6 critiques of Harris 5 RANDOM THOUGHTS! 4 complaints to Bill 3 wisecracks 2 quotes from Freud and a view. On the seventh day of Tipsmas we posted to the list 7 skeptics doubting 6 critiques of Harris 5 RANDOM THOUGHTS! 4 complaints to Bill 3 wisecracks 2 quotes from Freud and a view.. On the 8th day of Tipsmas we posted to the list 8 flames a raging 7 skeptics doubting 6 critiques of Harris 5 RANDOM THOUGHTS! 4 complaints to Bill 3 wisecracks 2 quotes from Freud and a view On the 9th day of Tipsmas we posted to the list 9 tests of blindsight 8 flames a raging 7 skeptics doubting 6 critiques of Harris 5 RANDOM THOUGHTS 4 complaints to Bill 3 wisecracks 2 quotes from Freud and a view On the 10th day of Tipsmas we posted to the list 10 student bloopers 9 tests of blindsight 8 flames a raging 7 skeptics doubting 6 critiques of Harris 5 RANDOM THOUGHTS 4 complaints to Bill 3 wisecracks 2 quotes from Freud and a view ... On the 11th day of Tipsmas we posted to the list 11 SET TIPS NO MAIL 10 student bloopers 9 tests of blindsight 8 flames a raging 7 skeptics doubting 6 critiques of Harris 5 RANDOM THOUGHTS! 4 complaints to Bill 3 wisecracks 2 quotes from Freud and a view ON THE TWELFTH DAY OF TIPSMAS WE POSTED TO THE LIST... 12 UNSUBSCRIBE TIPS 11 SET TIPS NO MAIL 10 student bloopers 9 tests of blindsight 8 flames a raging 7 skeptics doubting 6 critiques of Harris (big build up) 5 RANDOM THOUGHTS!!! 4 complaints to Bill (Tom?) 3 wisecracks 2 quotes from Freud and a song that got EVERYONE pissed. by Melucci 30 November 1998 Happy Sectarian Winter Holiday of your preference to all and to all a good night. --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu)
[tips] Re: [tips] Critique of “The Nurture Assumption”
To the extent that Harris' side may be guilty of interpreting the data in a manner that underestimates the extent of parental influence, there are numerous examples of psychologists and psychiatrists influenced by Freud who grossly and harmfully overestimated it - for example: Schizophrenigenic mothers versus the growing body of evidence that schizophrenia operates by diathesis-stress (and the stress usually involves the family and community, not a single parent) Bettleheim's refrigerator parents causing autism - total and arrogant confusion of correlation with causation, and heart-breaking for already afflicted families. This is not to say 2 wrongs make a right, just that both sides have done this to support their arguments and propose simple explanations for the results of complex developmental forces. Nancy Melucci Long Beach City College Long Beach CA -Original Message- From: Allen Esterson allenester...@compuserve.com To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) tips@acsun.frostburg.edu Sent: Mon, Nov 16, 2009 5:37 am Subject: [tips] Critique of “The Nurture Assumption” Joan: In the first part of your critique of Harris's *Nurture ssumption* you write: When discussing the works of Freud, Watson, Skinner, and Bandura, as ell as less luminary researchers, she frequently misinterprets the hrust of their research and perspectives. (1) Would you care to give some examples of where Harris misinterprets he thrust of Freud's work. (2) You quote Harris as follows: . . . Freudian theory . . . had an impact on academic psychologists, he kind who do research and publish the results in academic journals. few tried to find experimental evidence for various aspects of reudian theory; these efforts were largely unsuccessful. A greater umber were content to drop Freudian buzzwords into their lectures and esearch papers. You respond to this with: Again, no citation or source and I would suspect quite a surprise to he large numbers of scientific studies published in various sychoanalytic journals. First it should be made clear that Harris's comment cited above was in he context of the first half of the twentieth century (Harris 1998, . 10). You write of large numbers of scientific studies published in sychoanalytic journals that are effectively rebuttals of Harris's ontention. Leaving aside that my experience of glancing through past olumes of psychoanalytic journals on numerous occasions tells me that utting scientific in the same context as psychoanalytic journals s an oxymoron, I would be interested in hearing some examples of sychoanalytic studies *from the first half of the twentieth century hat you have in mind. Allen Esterson ormer lecturer, Science Department outhwark College, London ttp://www.esterson.org -- o make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu)
[tips] health psychology text
Hi, Although I've covered many topics related to health psychology thusfar in my career as a prof, I'll be teaching the class as a stand alone for the first time in my life this Spring. And so, I would appreciate any friendly recommendations for a good text that the students will enjoy reading. Thanks and best of luck with the home stretch of this term. Nancy Melucci Long Beach City College Long Beach CA --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu)
Re: [tips] Article in WSJ on study how brain develops without Dad.
I agree, in essence, which is why I wonder (since reasons for and situations of divorce AND staying in a marriage are so variable) why we spend to much time bickering about other people's choices (outside of those made from malice or neglect) and not helping each other figure out how to love and care for children in a variety of potentially healthy and adequate household constellations in the best possible ways and not why the choice YOU (the editorial one) make to work/not work; stay in a marriage or leave it, is a bad one. Children thrive in a remarkable range of situations, and most children in this country,whether their parents work or not, divorice marry or not, are lucky compared to most children in the developing world. Doing fine may not be as trivial an outcome as your verbiage implies. Mentioning day care in a list of evills that include poverty and drug abuse suggests that the writer assumes it HAS to be bad. I don't think it has to be bad or is typically bad even when it's chosen because both parents must or want to work, but there are also cases where the parents are incompetent (to some degree) and it provides a loving and nurturing alternative. Not every stay at home mom (parent) is competent. Some are downright harmful. I think to that the comparison between divorcing families and happy intact familes is one that tilts the playing field. What about the comparison to families that stay together for the kids resulting in years of misery to which children are exposed on a daily basis? Negative effects on children can occur in a wide variety of situations including those where the maritial contract is honored to the letter and there are no substance abuse problems. I don't think that life is devoid of black and white choices - I am not a total moral relativist - but I think there are many complexities and nuances here that should be respected. And I am not saying I am right, I may not be - but I think all of us should be honest about how the research results might fit with our own world views and provide comfort. I think you are as guilty of that as I am. Nancy Melucci Long Beach City College Long Beach CA -Original Message- From: Michael Smith tipsl...@gmail.com To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) tips@acsun.frostburg.edu Sent: Tue, Nov 3, 2009 7:30 am Subject: Re: [tips] Article in WSJ on study how brain develops without Dad. Hi Nancy. The social conservatives should also acknowledge that they would ather believe that I and others like me deserve to have motionally/cognitively harmed children. I doubt this would be the case for social conservatives, at least if here is nothing wrong with them. ost people, especially those with children, would not, I imagine, ish that some children be emotionally/cognitively harmed. Even from an entirely selfish perspective (which being socially onservative does not imply), it would be better to wish/hope that uch would not be the case where divorce, daycare, constantly moving, rugs, alchohol, poverty, etc. are concerned since such damage effects ociety as a whole. I think the comparison is intended to be between a healthy, happy, ntact family compared with one which suffers divorce and or has kids n daycare from an early age. Just because the kids may be doing ine, doesn't imply no damage was done. If psychology is willing to concede that a family enmeshed in drug or lchohol abuse has a negative effect on children then it is at least onceivable that divorce and daycare could also have a negative ffect. --Mike On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 10:08 PM, drna...@aol.com wrote: On the other hand this sword cuts both ways, and there are many people who apparently want to read that those who choose to divorce rather than live miserably together (something that also, quite plausibly, has bad effects on children) or place their kids in day care so they can work to support their families and be emotionally and intellectually satisfied (because plausibly an unhappy, intellectually frustrated and financially strapped mother might have bad effects on her children too) are inevitably going to be punished with the certain knowledge that they've harmed their children irreparablly. Yes, I am a divorced, working mother and I acknowledge that I would rather believe that my daughter (who has had free access to both her parents, because our divorce was amicable) is happier or at least not affected one way or the other because I did not remain in my very unhappy marriage and chose to work so I can use my talents as fully as possible. The social conservatives should also acknowledge that they would rather believe that I and others like me deserve to have emotionally/cognitively harmed children. Nancy Melucci Long Beach City College Long Beach CA -Original Message- From: Michael Smith tipsl...@gmail.com To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) tips@acsun.frostburg.edu Sent: Mon, Nov 2, 2009
[tips] Ehrenreich on Seligman and Positive Psychology
Has anyone read Ehrenreich's recent book on the cult of happiness and positive outlook? It's a generally good read (I am finishing it now), takes the self-help movement to task (and provides a lot of fascinating historical background on that...including its latest pseudoscientific presentations in The Secret and The Law of Attraction. I think that sections of it might also make good reading for a research methods or critical thinking class. I think she does an admirable job of critiquing Seligman's work and positive psychology. Nancy Melucci Long Beach City College Long Beach CA njm Make a Small Loan, Make a Big Difference - Check out Kiva.org to Learn How! --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu)
Re: [tips] Article in WSJ on study how brain develops without Dad.
Neither divorce nor day care are monolithic entities. There is a range of quality in day care from impoverished to extremely good (as there is with parenting) and there are divorces that are more amicable and cooperative than many intact marriages with children able to spend time with both parents. I am not sure about the validity of any research that purports to compare over such broad spans of quality. No one ever brings this up and yet it is true. Nancy Melucci Long Beach City College Long Beach CA njm Make a Small Loan, Make a Big Difference - Check out Kiva.org to Learn How! In a message dated 11/2/2009 4:29:14 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, dal...@langara.bc.ca writes: Sorry that you found the post offensive. That was not my intent. It was my intent, however, to say clearly that I see no solid body of evidence that suggests that either daycare or divorce is harmful to most children. I have read The Nurture Assumption and I found it to be a creditable piece of work. Judith Rich-Harris is hardly alone in stating that the long term impact of parents is far less critical that most lay people (and many Psychologists) believe. I suggest that you read Why Child Care Has Little Impact on Most Children's development by Sanda Scarr (pdf attached) for a good review of the literature. We clearly disagree on the best interpretation of the extant literature. Since we can't do the critical study ( randomly assigning children to either daycare or homecare) I again offer my wager as a method of settling this issue. If you can easily tell who was raised in daycare and who was not you will have proved your point and gained yourself $10,000. Conversely, if there is no discernable difference to be found between the two groups when they are young adults then it would indicate that the method of child rearing is inconsequential. I look forward to your response. -Don. - Original Message - From: Joan Warmbold jwarm...@oakton.edu Date: Monday, November 2, 2009 3:03 pm Subject: Re: [tips] Article in WSJ on study how brain develops without Dad. To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) tips@acsun.frostburg.edu This post is offensive and nonsensical. There is research that day care, especially extended day care during the first two years of life, can cause problems as well as can divorce, well I guess unless you choose to ignore all the research conducted in the 70's and 80's. And to imply 'how silly parents are to even consider that their precious darling who spends a day away from their parents will be scarred for life' is somehow relevant to this discussion is ludicrous. First of all, who has ever made that claim?! Secondly, such a belief is a far cry from stating that consistent, ongoing early experiences that cause stress (e.g., day care and/or divorce for some children) or deplete parental resources (divorcefor some parents) can have deleterious effects on a child's development. And please, please read the book by Judith Harris as it is sadly an example of profoundly poor scholarship as well as a blatant ignorance of the role of certain major players in the history of psychology. As I have offered previously, I have made a critical analysis of her book that I would be glad to share with whomever. Joan jwarm...@oakton.edu Hi Mike- Glad you agree with me that most typical childhood experiences (dacare, divorce, etc.) will have little or no long term effect on the kids. Unfortunately, there are still plenty of helicopter parents out there who feel that if their precious darling spent a day away from them then they'd be scarred for life. I keep hoping that I'll find someone to take the bait, uh I mean bet, but so far no luck. -Don. - Original Message - From: Michael Smith Date: Sunday, November 1, 2009 6:31 am Subject: Re: [tips] Article in WSJ on study how brain develops without Dad. To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) I think we have pretty well established that kids do fine when raised by two same-sex parents If doing fine means they are alive and surviving then yes of course, and I don't think that doing fine can mean much more than that. I have a standing bet of $10,000 that no one can reliably determine whether an adult was raised in day care or at home by observing their behaviour and their interactions with others. Well, that sounds like a pretty safe bet. I doubt whether anyone can reliably determine anything about your typical adult's early life experiences by observing their current adult behavior. -- Mike --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) Don Allen, Retired Formerly with: Dept. of Psychology Langara College 100 W. 49th Ave. Vancouver, B.C.
Re: [tips] Article in WSJ on study how brain develops without Dad.
On the other hand this sword cuts both ways, and there are many people who apparently want to read that those who choose to divorce rather than live miserably together (something that also, quite plausibly, has bad effects on children) or place their kids in day care so they can work to support their families and be emotionally and intellectually satisfied (because plausibly an unhappy, intellectually frustrated and financially strapped mother might have bad effects on her children too) are inevitably going to be punished with the certain knowledge that they've harmed their children irreparablly. Yes, I am a divorced, working mother and I acknowledge that I would rather believe that my daughter (who has had free access to both her parents, because our divorce was amicable) is happier or at least not affected one way or the other because I did not remain in my very unhappy marriage and chose to work so I can use my talents as fully as possible. The social conservatives should also acknowledge that they would rather believe that I and others like me deserve to have emotionally/cognitively harmed children. Nancy Melucci Long Beach City College Long Beach CA -Original Message- From: Michael Smith tipsl...@gmail.com To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) tips@acsun.frostburg.edu Sent: Mon, Nov 2, 2009 7:58 pm Subject: Re: [tips] Article in WSJ on study how brain develops without Dad. oops At the end of my last post I meant to say that I don't know the iterature but it seems implausible to me that one can claim that here are no long lasting effects of divorce and day-care etc. As mentioned, the issue is complex and their are many intervening ariables between the daycare years and adulthood. But I would be suspicious anyway since it seems to be just what our ociety wants to hear to qualm uneasy consciences. That is, Don't worry North America, increased divorce rates and ncreased farming of children out to daycare doesn't and won't have ny bad or lingering effects on the kids. --Mike --- o make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu)
Re: [tips] listserv policy
I so heartily second this. This morning, in my spam folder, was an email from this person, which referred to the perceived insulting nature of his posts. AS IF the insult were a product of our mis-perception and not an accurate description of material vomited out in the most nasty, condescending and bigoted manner - all while hiding behind the guise of the cool, open-minded, hip and tolerant minority group member. As if bigots did not come in all stripes. It appears though that our pleas to have him removed, after years of this abuse and disrespect, continue to fall on deaf ears or blind eyes. I am attached to this community and have no intention of quitting - every well-behaved member who quits is mark on his victory ledger. But it is an ordeal, like being held hostage, in a sense, to a non-stop torrent of narcissistic, abusive crap. Nancy Melucci Long Beach City College Long Beach, CA -Original Message- From: Pollak, Edward epol...@wcupa.edu To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) tips@acsun.frostburg.edu Sent: Thu, Oct 22, 2009 5:48 am Subject: Re:[tips] listserv policy Extinction hasn't worked because there always some list neophytes who will respond. So we're really dealing with some form of partial reinforcement and we all know the result of that vis a vis extinction. Listen, folks. In my particular universe, I am widely considered a loose canon who, according to one dean, never had an unpublished thought. But this fellow is so far beyond even my exceedingly lax boundaries of good taste and propriety that I see no option other than expulsion. Ed - Edward I. Pollak, Ph.D. Department of Psychology West Chester University of Pennsylvania http://home.comcast.net/~epollak - Husband, father, grandfather, biopsychologist bluegrass fiddler .. in approximate order of importance. --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu)
Re: [tips] Shutter Island
Actually, just to present an opposing point of view, having the student look at materials in the textbook and elsewhere, and comment on why the movie ISN'T such a good portrayal of material relevant to psychological science and practice, can be a useful and educational exercise. My .02 (adjusted for inflation). Nancy Melucci Long Beach City College Long Beach CA Make a Small Loan, Make a Big Difference - Check out Kiva.org to Learn How! In a message dated 10/14/2009 12:58:19 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, beth.ben...@gmail.com writes: I am in the middle of Lehane's The Given Day for a book club. If they hadn't chosen this book, I wouldn't have gone past page 5. I'm sure he's a fun writer for a certain kind of reader - especially those who like mysteries and books like that, but I would seriously doubt that his writing is a good choice for an honors student. Here's a brief synopsis from Lehane's website about Shutter Island, and I suspect you can get a pretty good idea of how relevant this really is to a good psychology paper: The year is 1954. U.S. Marshal Teddy Daniels and his new partner, Chuck Aule, have come to Shutter Island, home of Ashecliffe Hospital for the Criminally Insane, to investigate the disappearance of a patient. Multiple murderess Rachel Solando is loose somewhere on this remote and barren island, despite having been kept in a locked cell under constant surveillance. As a killer hurricane bears relentlessly down on them, a strange case takes on even darker, more sinister shades. Beth Benoit Granite State College Plymouth State University New Hampshire On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 3:33 PM, _tay...@sandiego.edu_ (mailto:tay...@sandiego.edu) wrote: I have a student who wants to read Shutter Island by Lehane for a homework assignment in my honors intro to psych class. I generally don't allow novels but he assures me that the story line about psychopathology is one he could easily critique. Are any tipsters familiar with this book? With Lehane's work in general? I am not. A web search doesn't give me any real substance to judge on. Annette Annette Kujawski Taylor, Ph.D. Professor of Psychology University of San Diego 5998 Alcala Park San Diego, CA 92110 619-260-4006 _tay...@sandiego.edu_ (mailto:tay...@sandiego.edu) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (_bsouthe...@frostburg.edu_ (mailto:bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) ) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu)
Re: [tips] Shutter Island
I would disagree in the sense that I don't think that asking them to do it for a movie or TV show is any less worthy a task than doing it for a book...we all take in a lot of information via electronic media...i think that teaching students to compare the facts (as they are understood) to the entertainment industry's versions. Nancy Melucci LBCC Make a Small Loan, Make a Big Difference - Check out Kiva.org to Learn How! In a message dated 10/14/2009 1:42:51 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, aloci...@endicott.edu writes: My 2 cents worth here--I think it depends on the assignment. If the assignment is to find a novel with some psychological themes and compare the treatment of those themes in the book with scientific knowledge about them, it sounds like this book might be an option. I would hate to have students assume that the author has done the research and is portraying themes accurately, but researching that would be, I think, a worthy exercise. It also occurs to me that it would be good to know when the story is coming out in movie format, in case your student plans to find a way around reading a novel. Alice LoCicero Alice LoCicero, Ph.D., ABPP, MBA, Associate Professor and Chair, Social Science Endicott College Beverly, MA 01915 978 232 2156 -Original Message- From: tay...@sandiego.edu [mailto:tay...@sandiego.edu] Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 4:13 PM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: Re: [tips] Shutter Island ps: here are the themes I did find: Treatment of the criminally insane in psychiatric hospitals in the 1950's is a theme of the book so the student could research that. Also PTSD and coping based on Korean war experiences. Also, what defines insanity. And whether that would be the appropriate term to use in this case. Finally, what indicators lead towards a diagnosis of schizophrenia for the main character, and what indicators fail to support such a diagnosis. Annette Annette Kujawski Taylor, Ph.D. Professor of Psychology University of San Diego 5998 Alcala Park San Diego, CA 92110 619-260-4006 tay...@sandiego.edu Original message Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:33:08 -0700 (PDT) From: tay...@sandiego.edu Subject: [tips] Shutter Island To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) tips@acsun.frostburg.edu I have a student who wants to read Shutter Island by Lehane for a homework assignment in my honors intro to psych class. I generally don't allow novels but he assures me that the story line about psychopathology is one he could easily critique. Are any tipsters familiar with this book? With Lehane's work in general? I am not. A web search doesn't give me any real substance to judge on. Annette Annette Kujawski Taylor, Ph.D. Professor of Psychology University of San Diego 5998 Alcala Park San Diego, CA 92110 619-260-4006 tay...@sandiego.edu --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu)
Re: [tips] Shutter Island
Whoa...should not be doing 2 things at once, as I walk out the door Sorry. Good night, sweet TIPS. : i think that teaching students to compare the facts (as they are understood) to the entertainment industry's versions can also help students to learn to think critically about psychology. Nancy Melucci LBCC --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu)
Re: [tips] Men Explain Things to Chicks
I have not weighed in on this topic. Generally I don't get too worked up about slang expressions for women or men as long as they are used in an insulting context. Recently I've been wondering why it's OK to call a man a dick or a prick (people don't get so upset about it) when the analogous expressions used for women (c**t t**t) are viewed with extreme negativity. Seriously. I catch myself calling someone a dick even in the privacy of my own mind, and I feel a little guilty about it. See - I starred out the middle of the female words and not the male words. Go figure. I try to resist the language police thing. I think these judgments (about the offensiveness of words) can rarely be made outside the context in which the word is being used. Nancy Melucci Long Beach City College. njm Make a Small Loan, Make a Big Difference - Check out Kiva.org to Learn How! In a message dated 10/11/2009 4:59:27 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, drb...@rcn.com writes: Whoops, at least one other woman responded in the negative about this topic as I recall. I believe Nancy Melucci also complained. I also complained, in what I thought was a semi-reasonable tone to the perpetrator of this thread and his non-response was my reason for blocking him. I have also been told off-list, that some of his recent posts have been more rational than most of his former posts. Bob Original message Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 15:26:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Robin Abrahams robina...@yahoo.com Subject: [tips] Men Explain Things to Chicks To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) tips@acsun.frostburg.edu Ah, another day, another series of men explaining women's experiences to them. But wait! you mournfully cry. I haven't silenced any women's voices! My wife tells me what to do all the time! I can't help it if Robin is the only woman who bothered to comment on whether or not 'chick' is offensive! Men, Explaining Things: http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/174918 This woman has better things to do. Enjoy yourselves, boys. Robin Abrahams www.robinabrahams.com . Robert W. Wildblood, PhD Riverside Counseling Center and Adjunct at Germanna CC, Fredericksburg, VA drb...@rcn.com . The soundest argument will produce no more conviction in an empty head than the most superficial declamation; as a feather and a guinea fall with equal velocity in a vacuum. - Charles Caleb Colton, author and clergyman (1780-1832) . Not thinking critically, I assumed that the successful prayers were proof that God answers prayer while the failures were proof that there was something wrong with me. - Dan Barker, former preacher, musician (b. 1949) . We have an obligation and a responsibility to be investing in our students and our schools. We must make sure that people who have the grades, the desire and the will, but not the money, can still get the best education possible. - Barack Obama, President of the United States of America --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu)
Re: [tips] Men Explain Things to Chicks
Sigh. 'nuff said. Nancy M. Make a Small Loan, Make a Big Difference - Check out Kiva.org to Learn How! In a message dated 10/11/2009 7:19:54 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, rfro...@jbu.edu writes: As a service to the list, I checked the archives and found that the initial protest to Michael Sylvester's use of chick was from Melissa Terlecki who said, Can you please not refer to women as chicks. It is insulting. This was followed by Catherine Wehlburg who said, I have to agree -- there is no need for that. Bob Wildblood also objected before the thread died until being resurrected by Stephen Black. Rick Dr. Rick Froman, Chair Division of Humanities and Social Sciences John Brown University Siloam Springs, AR 72761 rfro...@jbu.edu From: drna...@aol.com [drna...@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 7:21 PM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: Re: [tips] Men Explain Things to Chicks I have not weighed in on this topic. Generally I don't get too worked up about slang expressions for women or men as long as they are used in an insulting context. Recently I've been wondering why it's OK to call a man a dick or a prick (people don't get so upset about it) when the analogous expressions used for women (c**t t**t) are viewed with extreme negativity. Seriously. I catch myself calling someone a dick even in the privacy of my own mind, and I feel a little guilty about it. See - I starred out the middle of the female words and not the male words. Go figure. I try to resist the language police thing. I think these judgments (about the offensiveness of words) can rarely be made outside the context in which the word is being used. Nancy Melucci Long Beach City College. njm Make a Small Loan, Make a Big Difference - Check out Kiva.org to Learn How! In a message dated 10/11/2009 4:59:27 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, drb...@rcn.com writes: Whoops, at least one other woman responded in the negative about this topic as I recall. I believe Nancy Melucci also complained. I also complained, in what I thought was a semi-reasonable tone to the perpetrator of this thread and his non-response was my reason for blocking him. I have also been told off-list, that some of his recent posts have been more rational than most of his former posts. Bob Original message Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 15:26:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Robin Abrahams robina...@yahoo.com Subject: [tips] Men Explain Things to Chicks To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) tips@acsun.frostburg.edu Ah, another day, another series of men explaining women's experiences to them. But wait! you mournfully cry. I haven't silenced any women's voices! My wife tells me what to do all the time! I can't help it if Robin is the only woman who bothered to comment on whether or not 'chick' is offensive! Men, Explaining Things: http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/174918 This woman has better things to do. Enjoy yourselves, boys. Robin Abrahams www.robinabrahams.com . Robert W. Wildblood, PhD Riverside Counseling Center and Adjunct at Germanna CC, Fredericksburg, VA drb...@rcn.com . The soundest argument will produce no more conviction in an empty head than the most superficial declamation; as a feather and a guinea fall with equal velocity in a vacuum. - Charles Caleb Colton, author and clergyman (1780-1832) . Not thinking critically, I assumed that the successful prayers were proof that God answers prayer while the failures were proof that there was something wrong with me. - Dan Barker, former preacher, musician (b. 1949) . We have an obligation and a responsibility to be investing in our students and our schools. We must make sure that people who have the grades, the desire and the will, but not the money, can still get the best education possible. - Barack Obama, President of the United States of America --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu)
Re: [tips] for Marc Carter
I swear, if we could just all make ourselves stop responding to these provocative, mean-spirited trolls, first we'd see an escalation, (the pre-extinction burst) and then they would go away. As long as we continue to indulge this nonsense, it will dominate our TIPS list, and many good contributors will be driven away. I am tired of the MSTIPS list activity. It's not our list anymore, it's his. I and a few other valiant souls are trying to ignore him, but as long as other people continue to respond, we'll continue to have this crap inflicted on us. Nancy Melucci Long Beach City College Long Beach CA njm Make a Small Loan, Make a Big Difference - Check out Kiva.org to Learn How! In a message dated 10/2/2009 6:25:43 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, marc.car...@bakeru.edu writes: I was likewise puzzled. Apparently some scholars say that recruiting Latinos from countries where baseball is huge is contributing to the de-American-Africanization of American baseball. But here's my puzzlement: Michael asserts that *to Americans*, most Dominicans would be considered to be of African descent (as indeed most are, along with Caribbean Indian -- and btw, they are the most beautiful people I have ever seen). So, I find preposterous in the extreme the idea that there's some nefarious plot among the owners and managers of American baseball teams to exclude Americans of African descent in favor of Latinos of African descent. Maybe I'm just thick, but that just makes no sense at all. m -- Marc Carter, PhD Associate Professor and Chair Department of Psychology College of Arts Sciences Baker University -- -Original Message- From: Allen Esterson [mailto:allenester...@compuserve.com] Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 7:21 AM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: [tips] for Marc Carter On 1 October 2009 in a posting headed for Marc Carter Michael Sylvester wrote: I saw where you posed a question to me in the Tips archives but I did not receive the post in my regular mail. I am preparing to take action against Frostburg State through the ACLU if my First amendment rights are been violated FSU could lose some federal funds. The only question posed by Marc recently (as far as I can see) is the following: I lived in the Dominican Republic; baseball is bigger there than it is here, so naturally there are going to be a lot of good players coming out of there. In what way is that a bad thing? Why Michael follows his remark about a question f rom Marc with his reference to First Amendment rights is unclear. It would make more sense in relation to Jim Matiya's criticisms of Michael's language and tone in a couple of his recent postings (see below) followed by Bill Southerly's response, This matter is being addressed. My immediate reaction to Bill's comment was a concern that some action was being considered in relation to Michael's comments that some people (most I suggest) find offensive. My own feeling about such comments is that if they are continued after objections have been made (as in the case of his use of chicks for women), then subsequent postings from Michael should be ignored. Of course we don't know w hat Bill meant by the matter being addressed, but I think that (within limits - something of course difficult to define) there should not be heavy-handed action against someone who uses language most of us find offensive, or as in the following instance, unworthy of a response: Ken,Jim: Your posts are ridiculous. Are bystanders' apathy only reserved for white people?... Obviously you all know nothing about a black community. Gimme a break. Keep your eurocentric cognitive imperialistic analysis in the classrom. dude. Allen Esterson Former lecturer, Science Department Southwark College, London http://www.esterson.org -- --- --- 0A[tips] for Marc Carter michael sylvester Thu, 01 Oct 2009 21:37:38 -0700 I saw where you posed a question to me in the Tips archives but I did not receive the post in my regular mail. I am preparing to take action against Frostburg State through the ACLU if my First amendment rights are been violated FSU could lose some federal funds Anyway, re your question about the Dominican Republic: yep,baseball is very popular in the DR,Panama,Porto Rico and Nicaragua and they have produced excellent players for baseball in the U.S so recruitment from those countries would be a good idea. However,among some Afro-American scholars,the Central American irecruitment has helped to dil ute the hope and aspirations of many black youth in the U.S who aspire to be players but view the Central American initiatives as competing and puts them at an unfair disadvantage. Some Afro-American scholars also see trhis as the Hispanization
Re: [tips] Cervical cancer vaccine and death
Never mind the many?thousands of conservative folk who believe that the threat of contracting HPV and/or cervical cancer is an effective way to keep girls and women good according to their definition of that word (however you feel about it, it disregards the fact that many women who fit that definition will get the disease through sex with their unfaithful husbands). Teaching morality via the land mind method. I love it. Not. Nancy Melucci Long Beach City College Long Beach CA -Original Message- From: Paul C Bernhardt pcbernha...@frostburg.edu To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) tips@acsun.frostburg.edu Sent: Tue, Sep 29, 2009 9:05 am Subject: Re: [tips] Cervical cancer vaccine and death This is Kahneman and Tversky framing of decisions stuff: Doing something that is known to kill a certain number of people is less preferred decision compared to doing nothing knowing that some people might die. If the news article focused on the tens of thousands saved by the vaccine compared to the tends of thousands who have morbidity and mortality from getting cervical cancer the discussion about the unfortunate few who (allegedly) die from the vaccine might shift away from outrage. -- Paul Bernhardt Frostburg State University Frostburg, MD, USA On 9/29/09 10:19 AM, Beth Benoit beth.ben...@gmail.com wrote: ??? ? ?? ?Just after Mike Palij posted the suggestion that we take a look at the article discussing the fact that there will?be deaths following flu vaccines, but they are likely to be deaths that would have occurred naturally, this just came in to Google News: ?the death of a girl in England after she was ?given the cervical cancer vaccine. ?The vaccination programs has been halted while the situation is being examined. ?It should be interesting to see if this is yet another correlation-without-causation situation, or what factors are actually involved. http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2009/sep/29/cervical-cancer-vaccinations-postponed I imagine that even though the news that there have been over a million doses given without anything like this happening, the program will face huge challenges now. Beth Benoit Granite State College Plymouth State University New Hampshire ? --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) ? --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu)
[tips] Brain Myths from how stuff works
http://health.howstuffworks.com/10-brain-myths1.htm This website isn't 100% consistent but it posts a lot of good stuff. Here is something great to share with online students (or on campus students for that matter). Got it from my email subscription to their site. Nancy Melucci Long Beach City College Long Beach CA --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu)
Re: [tips] UFOs/British open minded
Since when has the activity of debunking something equaled being closed minded? I am open minded to the possibility, I collect the evidence, I discover it's very unlikely that UFOs occur (although we are almost certainly not the only life in this vast universe - the fact that there is probably life elsewhere does not mean they are coming here) and I decide against it, after having been very distinctly ready to accept it if the evidence was good. I am open-minded, and I debunk. Not mutually exclusive. Dr. S's statement is a great illustration of how students confuse open-mindedness with accepting that anything can be true regardless of the quality of the evidence or lack of it. I think we can all use the statement to illustrate for that. For once, something useful comes out of all the annoying, pathetic trolling, Nancy Melucci Long Beach City College Long Beach, CA. Make a Small Loan, Make a Big Difference - Check out Kiva.org to Learn How! In a message dated 8/20/2009 6:05:53 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, peter...@svsu.edu writes: To educate students (and others) about open-mindedness, science and critical thinking, the following video may be of some class-value. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T69TOuqaqXI Gerald L. (Gary) Peterson, Ph.D. Professor, Department of Psychology Saginaw Valley State University University Center, MI 48710 989-964-4491 peter...@svsu.edu - Original Message - From: michael sylvester msylves...@copper.net To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) tips@acsun.frostburg.edu Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 12:44:26 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [tips] UFOs/British open minded The Brits have released i9 years of data collection on UFO and alien visitations.In contrast to the debunking of such alleged appearances in the U.S,the Brits appear open-minded to the possibility. Michael Sylvester,PhD Daytona Beach,Florida --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu)
Re: [tips] Time magazine cover story 8/17
No , but YOU were one, and you BECOME the other - you are the same entity with a different quality. Nancy M. njm Make a Small Loan, Make a Big Difference - Check out Kiva.org to Learn How! In a message dated 8/10/2009 4:20:22 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, j.cl...@uwinnipeg.ca writes: Hi But if I convert from Christianity to Islam (or reverse), I do not make one into the other, do I? Convert appears to have multiple senses; see: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/convert Take care Jim James M. Clark Professor of Psychology 204-786-9757 204-774-4134 Fax j.cl...@uwinnipeg.ca drna...@aol.com 10-Aug-09 12:38:58 AM Errr...I believe the word he used was convert - that is, convert fat into muscle - I don't think this is ambiguous, to convert something is to make it into something else. If he had been more careful (giving him the benefit of the doubt) or knowledgeable (less flattering interpretation) then he might have said replace. I've heard a lot of people spout off about making fat into muscle - enough to know that it is a very common misconception that I suspect he probably harbors too - based on the way it was presented. Nancy Melucci LBCC --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu)
Re: [tips] Time magazine cover story 8/17
OK, this is anecdotal, but a good personal trainer can be a crucial ally in maintaining fitness - and is NOT just about forcing you to sweat it out in the gym but advises you in ALL aspects of your life - including daily non-gym activity levels AND nutrition savvy behaviors, and getting passed the destructive mentality that one is entitled to a big plate of greasy french fries for having jogged this AM. I owe so much to my trainer - from dropping 30 post baby lbs to becoming substantially stronger than most women - my age and younger - who are not accomplished gym rats (I can bench well over 100 lbs). Trainers vary in quality like psychologists do. The really good ones promote total lifestyle adjustment - they are not just screaming at you in the gym. I believe the net effect of this article will be negative - one more excuse to be sedentary for people who are already inclined not to exercise. You can't become fit gardening and cleaning your house (although sure, yes, it's better than sitting on your butt all day). Nancy M. Make a Small Loan, Make a Big Difference - Check out Kiva.org to Learn How! In a message dated 8/10/2009 7:32:22 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, helw...@dickinson.edu writes: I think the point of the article is about what actually happens not what could happen (as a result of exercise). Clearly it is possible to lose weight with exercise. The article suggests that this does not happen consistently for a variety of reasons (and whether it wouldn't be better to encourage daily physical activity instead of sweating in the gym with a personal trainer). Another reason (not mentioned in the article) is that research shows (sorry don't have a ref) that people vastly overestimate the amount of caloric foods they can eat after exercising. So people think that a run gives them license to eat a piece of chocolate cake (calorically speaking) but really it gives them license to eat an apple. So people overestimate the amount of calories lost as a function of exercise and then of course don't realize how many calories many foods have (e.g., 120 calories for a Gatorade). Marie Marie Helweg-Larsen, Ph.D. Department Chair and Associate Professor of Psychology Kaufman 168, Dickinson College Carlisle, PA 17013, office (717) 245-1562, fax (717) 245-1971 http://www.dickinson.edu/departments/psych/helwegm -Original Message- From: Deborah S Briihl [mailto:dbri...@valdosta.edu] Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 8:48 AM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: Re: [tips] Time magazine cover story 8/17 I'm agreeing with Nancy here. I taught a Psych of Eating class and I have a sister who is an exercise fanatic (she is currently training with the guy who trained the current Mr. Olympia). Yes, you do get hungry after exercising - in fact, my sister is being encouraged to eat more. However, it is WHAT you eat afterwards that is important - protein (rather than those french fries or muffins mentioned!). The other problem is the focus on weight loss (I believe that Stephen Black talked about the BMI issue earlier this summer). People don't lose weight with exercise - but you can see a change in inches lost and body fat. And that bit about self control!!! What nonsense!! Eating and exercising are like any other habit - you need time to form it properly (and it may take months). Want better self control at home - number 1 solution is don't buy the food that isn't good for you and you won't be tempted. There are also a number of research articles out there that show that people just don't realize the calorie count in foods. For example, straight black coffee has 0 calories. Starbucks Frappuchino? 240 calories - and that's the small (tall) - no whip cream. Diet portions on food products are often smaller or swap sugars for fats - but people then eat more of the diet food - so does that mean we should get rid of diet food? drna...@aol.com wrote: Hi, I was wondering if any fitness enthusiast or health psych tipsters might have had the same reaction to the new Time Magazine cover story that I did (I was motivated to write a letter, which is unlikely to be published but I thought I'd give it a go).? I was irritated by it for two reasons: 1) Scientific inaccuracy - the author mentions converting fat into muscle. Isn't this just plain wrong? You can shrink your fat cells and build up your muscle cells but you can't convert fat into muscle. The author (J. Cloud) doesn't seem to have any credentials (but he does selectively quote experts on weight and fitness.) This is an easy one and I wonder how he missed it. 2) A general tone of why bother? - Yes, the author mentions several times that exercise is crucial for good health BUT intersperses a lot of discouraging material - if you
[tips] Time magazine cover story 8/17
Hi, I was wondering if any fitness enthusiast or health psych tipsters might have had the same reaction to the new Time Magazine cover story that I did (I was motivated to write a letter, which is unlikely to be published but I thought I'd give it a go).? I was irritated by it for two reasons: 1) Scientific inaccuracy - the author mentions converting fat into muscle. Isn't this just plain wrong? You can shrink your fat cells and build up your muscle cells but you can't convert fat into muscle. The author (J. Cloud) doesn't seem to have any credentials (but he does selectively quote experts on weight and fitness.) This is an easy one and I wonder how he missed it. 2) A general tone of why bother? - Yes, the author mentions several times that exercise is crucial for good health BUT intersperses a lot of discouraging material - if you exercise hard you'll just overeat to make it up later OR you'll just be lazier later. No, you don't have to do either of those things. It's like an excuse making festival... I think the article is a great example of oversimplifying complex behaviors and how that can be misleading or destructive. Any credible fitness program includes encouragement to exercise and modify nutrition. I think this author is equating exercise won't help you with lack of discipline which of course IS a problem. I can see this article being used by countless people as one more excuse not to try to change at all. Reactions? I am interested to see if I am off the mark here. Nancy Melucci Long Beach City College Long Beach CA --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu)
Re: [tips] Time magazine cover story 8/17
Errr...I believe the word he used was convert - that is, convert fat into muscle - I don't think this is ambiguous, to convert something is to make it into something else. If he had been more careful (giving him the benefit of the doubt) or knowledgeable (less flattering interpretation) then he might have said replace. I've heard a lot of people spout off about making fat into muscle - enough to know that it is a very common misconception that I suspect he probably harbors too - based on the way it was presented. Nancy Melucci LBCC -Original Message- From: Helweg-Larsen, Marie helw...@dickinson.edu To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) tips@acsun.frostburg.edu Sent: Sun, Aug 9, 2009 5:51 pm Subject: RE: [tips] Time magazine cover story 8/17 Here is the link: http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1914857-1,00.html I thought the article was clear and well-written. I also found the claims well supported by the cited studies (many from psychology). One point was that exercise can have positive effects (better health, better cognitive functioning) but it is not likely to make a big difference in weight loss. Another point was that it is regular low level activity (walking, mowing, climbing stairs, etc.) is about as good (or better) than vigorous gym exercise. I think the article was mainly pointing out the limitations of the “you must exercise a lot to lose weight” and the “you must suffer a lot in the gym” mantras, not sayin g that people should not engage in physical activity. Marie PS. I’m guessing the author did not literally mean that the fat become muscle but rather than with aerobic activity fat cells shrink and you get more muscle. Then he cites a study that shows that this is not as advantageous as people might think. Marie Helweg-Larsen, Ph.D. Department Chair and Associate Professor of Psychology Kaufman 168, Dickinson College Carlisle, PA 17013, office (717) 245-1562, fax (717) 245-1971 http://www.dickinson.edu/departments/psych/helwegm From: drna...@aol.com [mailto:drna...@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 4:23 PM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: [tips] Time magazine cover story 8/17 Hi, I was wondering if any fitness enthusiast or health psych tipsters might have had the same reaction to the new Time Magazine cover story that I did (I was motivated to write a letter, which is unlikely to be published but I thought I'd give it a go). I was irritated by it for two reasons: 1) Scientific inaccuracy - the author mentions converting fat into muscle. Isn't this just plain wrong? You can shrink your fat cells and build up your muscle cells but you can't convert fat into muscle. The author (J. Cloud) doesn't seem to have any credentials (but he does selectively quote experts on weight and fitness.) This is an easy one and I wonder how he miss ed it. 2) A general tone of why bother? - Yes, the author mentions several times that exercise is crucial for good health BUT intersperses a lot of discouraging material - if you exercise hard you'll just overeat to make it up later OR you'll just be lazier later. No, you don't have to do either of those things. It's like an excuse making festival... I think the article is a great example of oversimplifying complex behaviors and how that can be misleading or destructive. Any credible fitness program includes encouragement to exercise and modify nutrition. I think this author is equating exercise won't help you with lack of discipline which of course IS a problem. I can see this article being used by countless people as one more excuse not to try to change at all. Reactions? I am interested to see if I am off the mark here. Nancy Melucci Long Beach City College Long Beach CA --- o make changes to your subscription contact: ill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu)
Re: [tips] Wikipedia despoils the Rorschach
My first guess would?NOT be that Silverman was?demonstrating the amazing accuracy of the Rorschach, but rather that his interpretations were just Barnum enough to be related to the MMPI (which I am not all that impressed with, either) and seem to confirm it. All personality tests are marginal, because personality (apart from context or situation) is a somewhat flimsy construct. Nancy Melucci Long Beach City College Long Beach CA Afterwards, one of my more open-minded colleagues took me aside and informed me of a challenge that had been put out by Lloyd Silverman (RIP, 1986), a psychoanalyst in NYC. Silverman offered to read the Rorschach protocols of any client of any doubting physician and return an interpretation of the test that would be the virtual equivalent of the empirically derived MMPI results of the same client -Original Message- From: William Scott wsc...@wooster.edu To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) tips@acsun.frostburg.edu Sent: Wed, Jul 29, 2009 7:04 am Subject: Re: [tips] Wikipedia despoils the Rorschach Despoilers of the Rorschach have been on the internet for many years. E.g. http://www.deltabravo.net/custody/rorschach.php These folks didn't originally have all the disclaimers at the beginning of their site that they now have. While I fully agree with Stephen about the demonstrated lack of validity of the Rorschach, and I have been vocal about that opinion for decades, I must tell the following story which gives me pause. In the early 1980's I gave a tirade against the Rorschach something like Stephen's in a clinical case conference in a large hospital setting populated by a fairly large number of psychodynamically oriented practitioners. Afterwards, one of my more open-minded colleagues took me aside and informed me of a challenge that had been put out by Lloyd Silverman (RIP, 1986), a psychoanalyst in NYC. Silverman offered to read the Rorschach protocols of any client of any doubting physician and return an interpretation of the test that would be the virtual equivalent of the empirically derived MMPI results of the same client. We simply had to pay Silverman for the interpretation (I think it was something like $300 at the time), but he would provide a double your money back garauntee regarding its match to the MMPI (he was of course blind to the MMPI data). We decided to give him the test and provided him with a Rorschach protocol of a very complicated client who had a very complex set of statements that were generated by the MMPI. We didn't get our money back. Silverman's interpretation was very very similar to the MMPI results and in fact his predictions regarding the course of treatment for the client were better than those generated by the MMPI. Now, of course this is anecdotal, but it has tempered my thinking about the meaning of statistical tests of reliability and validity, particularly in the face of the objections that are made (particularly by supporters of tests like the Rorschach), that it depends upon in whose hands the test resides. It has also tempered my thin king about the results of the empirical tests of the efficacy of certain therapies when the execution of the therapies is handbook/template driven rather than executed by unrestrained artistic virtuosos of the type of therapy being examined. I know this kind of talk is the kind of maddening dismissals of science expressed by people who divine for water and help the police with psychic powers, but Silverman's performance impressed me. It is said that he never (perhaps rarely) had to pay on his Rorschach challenge. Bill Scott sbl...@ubishops.ca 07/28/09 11:34 PM Big brouhaha over the posting of Rorschach plates plus common responses to them on Wikipedia, the ethics of doing this, whether it ruins the scientific usefulness of the test, makes them meaningless, etc. You can read all about it in the New York Times at http://tinyurl.com/lblelt (Has Wikipedia Created a Rorschach Cheat Sheet?--Noam Cohen) But in all the anguish over this issue, no one seems to have asked What scientific usefulness? Or How can something that is already meaningless be made more so by public disclosure? The fact is that the Rorschach is not science but pseudoscience and please, don't tell me about the Exner system. Our clever former fellow TIPSter, Scott Lilienfeld and his colleagues settled this back in 2000. Their language was cautious, but the message was clear: this is not science but junk. But unfortunately, pseudoscience never dies, and so the Rorschach is with us still. And still causing more damage (e.g. in child custody cases) than I'd care to contemplate. But no one who thinks psychology is a science should care a fig whether its plates and responses are public or not. Stephen The Scientific Status of Projective Techniques Psychological Science in the Public Interest Volume 1, Issue 2, Date: November 2000, Pages: 27-66
Re: [tips] Wikipedia despoils the Rorschach
I think the real?confirmation?would be based on?1) far more recent and well-controlled than this - as you've acknowledgeed it's an anecdote and relies on your memory and perceptions?at the time - ?and 2) both tests accurately describing?the PERSON, not simply matching each other. (And did he have any contact with those?individuals? - which also would be a?problem). There were validity issues with the old MMPI especially given the relatively culturally narrow sample on which it was normed. It wasn't by any means bulletproof in terms of validity. I gave lots of Rorschachs in a locked adolescent facilitysadly, though my psych reports were good, they were thoroughly infused with my personal knowledge of the children who lived there. The tests simply lent an air of empiricism to what were essentially careful professional observations. Nancy M. -Original Message- From: William Scott wsc...@wooster.edu To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) tips@acsun.frostburg.edu Sent: Wed, Jul 29, 2009 7:45 am Subject: Re: [tips] Wikipedia despoils the Rorschach You would then be saying that the MMPI only generates Barnum statements, which it does not, or that we were not sophisticated enough to determine whether or not Silverman's statements were so vague they would apply to anyone, which is also not true, thank you. I'll remind you that I am a complete skeptic about this and was sending him the test in order to discredit his claims. I couldn't. Bill Scott drna...@aol.com 07/29/09 10:39 AM My first guess would?NOT be that Silverman was?demonstrating the amazing accuracy of the Rorschach, but rather that his interpretations were just Barnum enough to be related to the MMPI (which I am not all that impressed with, either) and seem to confirm it. All personality tests are marginal, because personality (apart from context or situation) is a somewhat flimsy construct. Nancy Melucci Long Beach City College Long Beach CA Afterwards, one of my more open-minded colleagues took me aside and informed me of a challenge that had been put out by Lloyd Silverman (RIP, 1986), a psychoanalyst in NYC. Silverman offered to read the Rorschach protocols of any client of any doubting physician and return an interpretation of the test that would be the virtual equivalent of the empirically derived MMPI results of the same client -Original Message- From: William Scott wsc...@wooster.edu To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) tips@acsun.frostburg.edu Sent: Wed, Jul 29, 2009 7:04 am Subject: Re: [tips] Wikipedia despoils the Rorschach Despoilers of the Rorschach have been on the internet for many years. E.g. http://www.deltabravo.net/custody/rorschach.php These folks didn't originally have all the disclaimers at the beginning of their site that they now have. While I fully agree with Stephen about the demonstrated lack of validity of the Rorschach, and I have been vocal about that opinion for decades, I must tell the following story which gives me pause. In the early 1980's I gave a tirade against the Rorschach something like Stephen's in a clinical case conference in a large hospital setting populated by a fairly large number of psychodynamically oriented practitioners. Afterwards, one of my more open-minded colleagues took me aside and informed me of a challenge that had been put out by Lloyd Silverman (RIP, 1986), a psychoanalyst in NYC. Silverman offered to read the Rorschach protocols of any client of any doubting physician and return an interpretation of the test that would be the virtual equivalent of the empirically derived MMPI results of the same client. We simply had to pay Silverman for the interpretation (I think it was something like $300 at the time), but he would provide a double your money back garauntee regarding its match to the MMPI (he was of course blind to the MMPI data). We decided to give him the test and provided him with a Rorschach protocol of a very complicated client who had a very complex set of statements that were generated by the MMPI. We didn't get our money back. Silverman's interpretation was very very similar to the MMPI results and in fact his predictions regarding the course of treatment for the client were better than those generated by the MMPI. Now, of course this is anecdotal, but it has tempered my thinking about the meaning of statistical tests of reliability and validity, particularly in the face of the objections that are made (particularly by supporters of tests like the Rorschach), that it depends upon in whose hands the test resides. It has also tempered my thin king about the results of the empirical tests of the efficacy of certain therapies when the execution of the therapies is handbook/template driven rather than executed by unrestrained artistic virtuosos of the type of therapy being examined. I know this kind of talk is the kind of maddening dismissals of
Re: [tips] Kudos to Annette Kojawski Taylor (and Nancy Melucci)
And to think I almost threw that magazine away. Thanks Roberto. Nancy M. LBCC LB, CA -Original Message- From: Rob Weisskirch rweisski...@csumb.edu To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) tips@acsun.frostburg.edu Sent: Tue, Jul 28, 2009 10:27 am Subject: [tips] Kudos to Annette Kojawski Taylor (and Nancy Melucci) Just a kudos to Annette for the lead article in Teaching of Psychology (July-Sept, 2009).? And to Nancy Melucci for the mention in the article of her book, Psychology:? The Easy Way. Rob Weisskirch, MSW. Ph.D. Associate Professor of Human Development Certified Family Life Educator Liberal Studies Department California State University, Monterey Bay 100 Campus Center, Building 82C Seaside, CA 93955 (831) 582-5079 rweisski...@csumb.edu This message is intended only for the addressee and may contain confidential, privileged information.? If you are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy or disclose any information contained in the message.? If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender by reply e-mail and delete the message. --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu)
Re: [tips] Utility of BMI - from a professional
Given the current heat immersion sounds not only informative but refreshing too. Stay cool, Tipsters everywhere. Even in cool Canada and Mini-soda. Nancy Melucci LBCC -Original Message- From: Paul Brandon paul.bran...@mnsu.edu To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) tips@acsun.frostburg.edu Sent: Tue, Jul 14, 2009 9:19 pm Subject: Re: [tips] Utility of BMI - from a professional Of course your REAL BMI (calculated from immersion, not estimated from height and weight) is probably not in the overweight range. On Jul 13, 2009, at 7:24 PM, drna...@aol.com wrote: Hi, According to my trainer, who has a degree and certifications in this area, BMI is relatively accurate as a health index for sedentary folks or those whose activity levels could be described as average (little regular exercise). It is not accurate for those who are? athletic and tend to carry more than average muscle mass. It makes them appear to be overweight or even obese because it does not distinguish between body fat and muscle, the latter of which weighs more and pays more rent in terms of calories. Thus BMI can also be normal or underweight and not indicate that the person in question has other health issues. My BMI is overweight and I am most definitely neither overweight nor unhealthy (I lift weights, box and do cardio on a regular basis). Nancy Melucci Long Beach City College Long Beach, CA Paul Brandon Emeritus Professor of Psychology Minnesota State University, Mankato paul.bran...@mnsu.edu --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu)
[tips] Utility of BMI - from a professional
Hi, According to my trainer, who has a degree and certifications in this area, BMI is relatively accurate as a health index for sedentary folks or those whose activity levels could be described as average (little regular exercise). It is not accurate for those who are? athletic and tend to carry more than average muscle mass. It makes them appear to be overweight or even obese because it does not distinguish between body fat and muscle, the latter of which weighs more and pays more rent in terms of calories. Thus BMI can also be normal or underweight and not indicate that the person in question has other health issues. My BMI is overweight and I am most definitely neither overweight nor unhealthy (I lift weights, box and do cardio on a regular basis). Nancy Melucci Long Beach City College Long Beach, CA --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu)
Re: [tips] DSM-V
I am so NOT surprised that one of the issues would be the nagging feeling that disorders are created based on little evidence. I recently have come across articles on other listservs about proposals being made to diagnose bitterness and being in love as disease processes and (you guessed it) medicating them, I think that a dramatic culling of disorders is due. But we won't see that happen, probably ever, or for a good long time at any rate. Nancy Melucci LBCC et alia -Original Message- From: Jeffrey Nagelbush nagel...@hotmail.com To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) tips@acsun.frostburg.edu Sent: Wed, Jul 8, 2009 11:45 am Subject: [tips] DSM-V The Mind Hacks blog has some interesting comments on the other APA's flap over the newest DSM revision: http://www.mindhacks.com/blog/2009/07/psychiatrys_diagnos.html Jeff Nagelbush nagel...@hotmail.com Social Sciences Department Ferris State University Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail®. See how. --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu)
Re: [tips] Just got the new Publication manual
Now if only the folks who write the DSM would take their cue from this trend. I wonder if it will make me like APA style anymore than I do. I truly loathe it. Nancy Melucci Long Beach City College and parts northern, western and virtual. -Original Message- From: Rick Froman rfro...@jbu.edu To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) tips@acsun.frostburg.edu Sent: Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:18 am Subject: [tips] Just got the new Publication manual The first thing you notice is that it (6th ed) is a lot lighter (272 pages) than the 5th ed (439 pages). Looks promising. ? Rick ? Dr. Rick Froman, Chair Division of Humanities and Social Sciences Professor of Psychology Box 3055 John Brown University 2000 W. University Siloam Springs, AR? 72761 rfro...@jbu.edu (479)524-7295 http://tinyurl.com/DrFroman ? ? ? --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu)
Re: [tips] Guilty Dog! Guilty Dog!!!
The most experienced dog trainers instruct owners to treat dogs as if they are the equivalent of human 2 year olds (at least in terms of long term episodic memory). So, unless you catch them in the act of destroying something or misbehaving, they do not recall for what it is they are being scolded (therefore, if you yell at them repeatedly for tearing up paper while you are at work, they associate your anger with the presence of torn up paper but not necessarily the act of tearing it). Makes sense to me and doesn't defy any science as far as I can tell. Nancy Melucci Long Beach City College Make a Small Loan, Make a Big Difference - Check out Kiva.org to Learn How! In a message dated 6/16/2009 6:52:32 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, michael.br...@thepsychfiles.com writes: Mike, I saw this article too and it's quite interesting. Someone on the list alerted me a while back to a series of articles by Clive Wynne and Gordon Burghardt in Vol 2 (2007) issue of Comparative Cognition and Behavior on the topic of anthropomorphism in which Wynne talks about this very example - does your dog really feel guilty when he appears to look guilty to you (Wynne says no, Burghardt says maybe yes). The research mentioned in the NY Times article (by Alexandra Horowitz) appears to agree with Wynne. The guilty look you think you see in your dog appears to be the result of behavioral principles. Michael On Jun 16, 2009, at 8:54 AM, Mike Palij wrote: There is an article in the NY Times today about a study by an animal behaviorist over at Barnard College that argues that a dog's guilty behavior has less to do with the actual guilt or innocence of the animal but, if the animal has learned to behave in a guilty manner in response to the owner's angry behavior, that response will be made (the article lays out the procedure and the research we published in the journal Behavioral Processes); see: _http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/16/science/16obguilt.html?ref=science_ (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/16/science/16obguilt.html?ref=science) The first question that came to mind was whether this kind of procedure has been used with humans, especially children? This go a long way in explaining (a) why mere behavioral measures are insufficient to identify, say, when a person is lying or not and (b) suggests how people might try to develop into effective liars as a defense (though I have a feeling that most Catholics fail to develop this skill ;-). -Mike Palij New York University m...@nyu.edu P.S. I am informed that Manolo Blahniks are a type of shoe familiar to the Devil Wears Prada crowd and popularized in the Sex and the City series. I initially thought that they might be shoes but the ones that O.J. wore when, well, y'know. --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) **Download the AOL Classifieds Toolbar for local deals at your fingertips. (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolclassifieds/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown0004) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu)
Re: [tips] What's on Your Summer Reading List
The Year of Living Biblically. A J Jacobs My sister's book. I am going to listen to them while I drive to the AP readings in Kansas City (along with Beck, REM, Bebel Gilberto, Beethoven, and a bunch of other good music from the past 200 years.) Nancy Melucci Long Beach City College Make a Small Loan, Make a Big Difference - Check out Kiva.org to Learn How! In a message dated 6/1/2009 3:31:39 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, m...@nyu.edu writes: On Mon, 01 Jun 2009 14:00:12 -0700, Michael Sylvester wrote: The Iceman Inheritance by Michael Bradley I would suggest that you also read what Henry Louis Gates, Jr. had to say about this book. See: http://www.nytimes.com/1992/07/20/opinion/black-demagogues-and-pseudo-schola rs.html?scp=2sq=%22MICHAEL%20BRADLEY%22%20%22iceman%20inheritance%22st=cse pagewanted=print or, using the latest in TiPS craze, DickensURL: http://dickensurl.com/b119/Sadly_sadly_the_sun_rose_it_rose_upon_no_sadder_s ight_than_the_man_of_good_abilities_and_good_emotions_incapable_of_their_dir ected_exercise_incapable_of_his_own_help_a nd_his_own_happiness_sensible_of_the_blight_on_him_and_resigning_himself_to_let_it_eat_him_away which is based on: |Sadly, sadly, the sun rose; it rose upon no sadder |sight than the man of good abilities and good emotions, |incapable of their directed exercise, incapable of his |own help and his own happiness, sensible of the blight |on him, and resigning himself to let it eat him away. |From A Tale of Two Cities For the traditionalist, use the TinyURL link: http://tinyurl.com/kwf5me Also what Ashley Montague had to say about the claims that Bradley made in response to Gates' comments about his book, see: http://www.nytimes.com/1992/08/29/opinion/l-source-for-book-on-race-faulted- for-racism-925292.html?n=Top/Reference/Times%20Topics/People/G/Gates,%20Henr y%20Louis%20Jr.scp=3sq=%22MICHAEL%20BRADLEY%22%20%22iceman%20inheritance%2 2st=cse or, DickensURL: http://dickensurl.com/b12a/Take_care_while_you_are_young_that_you_can_think_ in_those_days_I_never_whitened_a_hair_of_her_dear_head_I_never_marked_a_sorr owful_line_in_her_face_For_of_all_the_many_things_that_you_can_think_when_yo u_are_a_man_you_had_better_have_that_by_you_Woolwich which is based on: |Take care, while you are young, |that you can think in those days, ' |I never whitened a hair of her dear head, |I never marked a sorrowful line in her face!' |For of all the many things that you can think |when you are a man, you had better have |that by you, Woolwich! |From Bleak House Or TinyUrl: http://tinyurl.com/kjajtb Now, if only someone would make a VonnegutURL-thingie. -Mike Palij New York University m...@nyu.edu --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) **We found the real ‘Hotel California’ and the ‘Seinfeld’ diner. What will you find? Explore WhereItsAt.com. (http://www.whereitsat.com/#/music/all-spots/355/47.796964/-66.374711/2/Youve-Found-Where-Its-At?ncid=eml cntnew0007) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu)
Re: [tips] Relatives of TIPS participant in the news!
Thanks for the plug. Actually she is my sister. I am the alpha child and she is the omega. There are 3 between. Nancy M. -Original Message- From: Joan Warmbold jwarm...@oakton.edu To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) tips@acsun.frostburg.edu Sent: Mon, 4 May 2009 3:12 pm Subject: [tips] Relatives of TIPS participant in the news! The cookbook/relationship book written by Nancy Melluci's sister-in-law is give a very positive review in the most recent People magazine and very positively. Of course, only happen to read that issue while in the dentist office! Joan jwarm...@oakton.edu --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu)
[tips] Get together in KC
Hi all, Putting out a call to find out which TIPS folk will be working at the AP Reading in Kansas City this year. We had a pretty good dinner in 2008. I will be driving to KC arriving late on 6/8. If you will be there, let me know and provide the easiest contact info (I am online all the time, even during the reading) so we can plan another chow down during that week. Look forward to seeing you all, Nancy Melucci Long Beach City College Long Beach CA Make a Small Loan, Make a Big Difference - Check out Kiva.org to Learn How! **Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the web. Get the Radio Toolbar! (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolradio/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown0003) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu)
Re: [tips] New edition of publication manual
True confession: I hate APA style. I think it sucks the life out of most writing. And now I can hate it for more reasons. Go ahead and report me. I don't care. Nancy Melucci Long Beach City College Long Beach CA Make a Small Loan, Make a Big Difference - Check out Kiva.org to Learn How! In a message dated 4/29/2009 6:37:53 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, marc.car...@bakeru.edu writes: I guess it really pays to be a Member/Affiliate. Or not. :/ -- Marc Carter, PhD Associate Professor and Chair Department of Psychology College of Arts Sciences Baker University -- From: David Wasieleski [mailto:dwasi...@valdosta.edu] Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 8:31 AM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: RE: [tips] New edition of publication manual We received notices in the mail re: the new edition. Costs as follows: Softcover LIST PRICE: $28.95 MEMBER/AFFILIATE PRICE: $28.95 Hardcover LIST PRICE: $39.95 MEMBER/AFFILIATE PRICE: $39.95 Spiral LIST PRICE: $36.95 MEMBER/AFFILIATE PRICE: $36.95 The notice also included possible desk copies but asserted that you had to demonstrate need and that there would be a run on such copies, so expect a long wait. David At 09:26 AM 4/29/2009, you wrote: I'm not sure, but I'm thinking a lot. And I expect no desk copies, either. I once calculated how much business I give the APA by requiring the manual in my courses. They owe me. A lot. m -- Marc Carter, PhD Associate Professor and Chair Department of Psychology College of Arts Sciences Baker University -- -Original Message- From: Stuart McKelvie [_ mailto:smcke...@ubishops.ca_ (mailto:smcke...@ubishops.ca) ] Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 8:20 AM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: RE: [tips] New edition of publication manual Dear Tipters, .and at what new cost, may I ask? Stuart ___ Stuart J. McKelvie, Ph.D., Phone: (819)822-9600, Extension 2402 Department of Psychology, Fax: (819)822-9661 Bishop's University, 2600 College Street, Sherbrooke, Québec J1M 1Z7, Canada. E-mail: smcke...@ubishops.ca Bishop's University Psychology Department Web Page: _http://www.ubishops.ca/ccc/div/soc/psy_ (http://www.ubishops.ca/ccc/div/soc/psy) ___ --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) David T. Wasieleski, Ph.D. Professor Department of Psychology and Counseling Valdosta State University Valdosta, GA 31698 229-333-5620 _http://chiron.valdosta.edu/dtwasieleski _ (http://chiron.valdosta.edu/dtwasieleski) The only thing that ever made sense in my life is the sound of my little girl laughing through the window on a summer night... Just the sound of my little girl laughing makes me happy just to be alive... --Everclear Song from an American Movie --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) **Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the web. Get the Radio Toolbar! (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolradio/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown0003) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu)
Re: [tips] New edition of publication manual
I am sure they noted that, Comrade Rick. Nancy M. Make a Small Loan, Make a Big Difference - Check out Kiva.org to Learn How! In a message dated 4/29/2009 1:03:00 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, rfro...@jbu.edu writes: Oops! This message obviously was not intended for the list but was eyes only for APA bureaucrats. Sorry. Rick Rick Froman _rfro...@jbu.edu_ (mailto:rfro...@jbu.edu) From: Rick Froman [mailto:rfro...@jbu.edu] Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 2:57 PM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: FW: [tips] New edition of publication manual Dear APA thought police: Please note the subversive message below and take appropriate action. I am happy to serve the organization in any way I can but a free examination copy of the 6th edition of the Publication Manual would be appreciated. Your servant, Rick Rick Froman _rfro...@jbu.edu_ (mailto:rfro...@jbu.edu) From: drna...@aol.com [mailto:drna...@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 2:08 PM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: Re: [tips] New edition of publication manual True confession: I hate APA style. I think it sucks the life out of most writing. And now I can hate it for more reasons. Go ahead and report me. I don't care. Nancy Melucci Long Beach City College Long Beach CA Make a Small Loan, Make a Big Difference - Check out Kiva.org to Learn How! In a message dated 4/29/2009 6:37:53 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, marc.car...@bakeru.edu writes: I guess it really pays to be a Member/Affiliate. Or not. :/ -- Marc Carter, PhD Associate Professor and Chair Department of Psychology College of Arts Sciences Baker University -- From: David Wasieleski [mailto:dwasi...@valdosta.edu] Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 8:31 AM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: RE: [tips] New edition of publication manual We received notices in the mail re: the new edition. Costs as follows: Softcover LIST PRICE: $28.95 MEMBER/AFFILIATE PRICE: $28.95 Hardcover LIST PRICE: $39.95 MEMBER/AFFILIATE PRICE: $39.95 Spiral LIST PRICE: $36.95 MEMBER/AFFILIATE PRICE: $36.95 The notice also included possible desk copies but asserted that you had to demonstrate need and that there would be a run on such copies, so expect a long wait. David At 09:26 AM 4/29/2009, you wrote: I'm not sure, but I'm thinking a lot. And I expect no desk copies, either. I once calculated how much business I give the APA by requiring the manual in my courses. They owe me. A lot. m -- Marc Carter, PhD Associate Professor and Chair Department of Psychology College of Arts Sciences Baker University -- -Original Message- From: Stuart McKelvie [_ mailto:smcke...@ubishops.ca_ (mailto:smcke...@ubishops.ca) ] Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 8:20 AM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: RE: [tips] New edition of publication manual Dear Tipters, .and at what new cost, may I ask? Stuart ___ Stuart J. McKelvie, Ph.D., Phone: (819)822-9600, Extension 2402 Department of Psychology, Fax: (819)822-9661 Bishop's University, 2600 College Street, Sherbrooke, Québec J1M 1Z7, Canada. E-mail: smcke...@ubishops.ca Bishop's University Psychology Department Web Page: _http://www.ubishops.ca/ccc/div/soc/psy_ (http://www.ubishops.ca/ccc/div/soc/psy) ___ --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) David T. Wasieleski, Ph.D. Professor Department of Psychology and Counseling Valdosta State University Valdosta, GA 31698 229-333-5620 _http://chiron.valdosta.edu/dtwasieleski _ (http://chiron.valdosta.edu/dtwasieleski) The only thing that ever made sense in my life is the sound of my little girl laughing through the window on a summer night... Just the sound of my little girl laughing makes me happy just to be alive... --Everclear Song from an American Movie --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the web. _Get the Radio Toolbar_ (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolradio/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown0003) ! --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly
Re: [tips] more morality and critical thinking
Hi, Indeed and I suspect that a lot of folks who support abortion rights (myself included) view it as the lesser of two evils. Making abortion illegal will NOT stop it. Women will return to the ways they used out of desperation before 1973. What do you do or support if you really want to lower the number of abortions? Making it illegal is not the way. The frustrating thing is that neither side in this debate seems to want to work toward lowering abortion rates in a constructive and sensible manner. The loudest voices on the right want not only to restrict or end access to abortion but also try to block funding for almost every effective means of contraception (except abstinence) thus revealing themselves to be driven not or not only by a wish to protect the unborn but also to impose one narrow view of morality and ?- or control female sexual behavior. It's really more like being pro-pregnancy. Abstinece of course works perfectly?in fantasy world,?but simply will not fly as a practical method in a time when puberty begins before 12 and most do not marry until their late 20's. The loudest voices on the pro-abortion rights side views ANY attempt to circumscribe access as the beginning of the slippery slope toward complete restriction and regulation. Isn't it possible that people have reasons for abortion that could be viewed as unethical (i.e. sex selection to name just one?) Since our political process has devolved for many reasons into polarization, I don't see much hope of bringing both sides together on this one. I wonder why it has to be this way. Nancy Melucci Long Beach City College Long Beach CA -Original Message- From: Christine L. Grela cgr...@mchenry.edu To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) tips@acsun.frostburg.edu Sent: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 7:13 am Subject: [tips] more morality and critical thinking Since I added some fuel to the fire, let me add some more :) I think we really need to clarify our language regarding this discussion. Legality and morality, although roughly correlated, are not the same. Laws certainly are relative, and one could even argue arbitrary, but is morality the same? This actually connects back to the original question posed -- when is the appropriate time to question legalities (and authorities)? When do WE know that the law is wrong because there is a higher moral principle at stake? The abortion issue was raised in terms of whether or not we've progressed as a culture, and I think that is a fair question -- whether or not abortion is truly moral is an open question (although to some it certainly is closed). On the other hand, whether or not it's legal almost has nothing to do with its morality. I think the argument about cultural progression and legality is much more clear when discussing something like slavery. I think there are very few (and they would be of questionable moral character) who would actually argue that we should again legalize slavery because that was a morally superior cultural standard. But again, I would argue that even when it was legal, that certainly did not make it moral. Christine Grela Instructor of Psychology McHenry County College Office: C-124; Phone: 815-479-7725 cgr...@mchenry.edu --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu)
Re: [tips] critical thinking and ethics/morality
Actually it's not true that abortion was illegal on a national basis in 19th century America. The truth, as this article states, is complicatedand morality is and has been relative throughout history and in all places (infanticide of females in some Asian cultures for example?) _http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0JZS/is_2_24/ai_n25018393/_ (http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0JZS/is_2_24/ai_n25018393/) njm Make a Small Loan, Make a Big Difference - Check out Kiva.org to Learn How! In a message dated 4/18/2009 5:11:29 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, tipsl...@gmail.com writes: Relative ethics deplorable, perhaps. But nevertheless the case? For example, abortion for any other reason than the mother's life being in danger was until recently considered unethical, immoral, wrong, and punishable by law. But today, we have progressed. Many (most?) now think, believe, and feel, that this is not the case. Because of this new ethical position and belief, we are busy re-defining when we can actually call the unborn a person (and therefore it isn't murder based on a larger aspect of our current ethical system), what types of procedures should be allowed etc. Other countries have made progress by legalizing assisted suicide. Perhaps canada (and the US) will soon follow suit. But since we still have the murder thing hanging around, we will have to carefully decide when someone should be allowed to kill themselves so that they (and the assistant) will not be prosecuted as a murderer. But why should others decide when and what should constitute sufficient grounds for suicide? It may be deplorable, but it looks to me as though that is the case. --Mike --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) **Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the web. Get the Radio Toolbar! (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolradio/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown0003) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu)
Re: [tips] United States of Tara DID
Hi, I think the students need to be educated about the very real possibility that DID is nothing more than a complicated set of voluntary behaviors done to receive attention. You may be new to this list, we've had this discussion before. You can find it in the archives I am sure. But actually the Religious Tolerance web site does a nice job telling both sides of the story, with very strong evidence for the iatrogenic and essentially voluntary nature of this disorder. Nancy Melucci Long Beach City College Long Beach CA Make a Small Loan, Make a Big Difference - Check out Kiva.org to Learn How! In a message dated 4/10/2009 3:51:22 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, james.den...@vbschools.com writes: One of my students asked me a question about the following DID video from the popular Showtime series The United States of Tara. If you follow the below link, the video states that possibly 5 out of 100 people may have DID. Is this an accurate statistic? Do you think this is accurate information to show the students? _http://www.sho.com/site/tara/did.do_ (http://www.sho.com/site/tara/did.do) Thanks in advance for your help J. Kevin Denson Social Studies Department Chair AP Psychology/Psychology Teacher Kempsville High School Head Boys Varsity Soccer Coach First Colonial High School james.den...@vbschools.com --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220814837x1201410725/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26 hmpgID%3D62%26bcd%3DAprilfooterNO62) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu)
Re: [tips] More inappropriate listserv use
pick up the book if you can, thanks for responding njm Make a Small Loan, Make a Big Difference - Check out Kiva.org to Learn How! In a message dated 4/8/2009 7:53:24 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, tay...@sandiego.edu writes: She looks just like you! I won't be able to see it :( Annette Annette Kujawski Taylor, Ph.D. Professor of Psychology University of San Diego 5998 Alcala Park San Diego, CA 92110 619-260-4006 tay...@sandiego.edu Original message Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 20:36:53 EDT From: drna...@aol.com Subject: [tips] More inappropriate listserv use To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) tips@acsun.frostburg.edu I can't help it, it's a family thing. My sister is going to be on the Today show pimping - er - promoting - her memoir collection of recipes. 9:35AM Eastern Time Check it out! http://www.amazon.com/I-Loved-Lost-Made-Spaghetti/dp/0446534420/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8s=booksqid=1239237347sr=8-1 Nancy Melucci Long Beach City College Long Beach CA Make a Small Loan, Make a Big Difference - Check out Kiva.org to Learn How! New Deals on Dell Netbooks - Now starting at $299 --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) **New Deals on Dell Netbooks – Now starting at $299 (A HREF=http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220635155x1201407495/aol?redir=http:%2F %2Fad.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B213771973%3B35379628%3Bw) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu)
Re: [tips] gunman opens fire in Binhampton, NY
Hi, There is probably no steady long term increase however there MAY be some short term bumps or spikes due to a vicarious reinforcement effect. This journalistic piece from On The Media stuck with me when I heard it 2.5 years ago. _http://onthemedia.org/yore/transcripts/transcripts_100606_c.html_ (http://onthemedia.org/yore/transcripts/transcripts_100606_c.html) Nancy Melucci Long Beach City College Long Beach CA Make a Small Loan, Make a Big Difference - Check out Kiva.org to Learn How! In a message dated 4/3/2009 4:30:09 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, m...@nyu.edu writes: On Fri, 03 Apr 2009 12:43:04 -0700, Paul Okami writes: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/04/nyregion/04hostage.html?hp I'm well aware of the impact of the availability heuristic and mass media portrayals on people's beliefs about the incidence of various crimes (e.g., child kidnappings and such). That said, is it just my imagination or has there *really been* a substantial and scary increase in the number of deranged individuals opening fire on groups of innocent people over the past two or three decades? (I'm excluding war-time atrocities here). The simple asnwer to your question appears to be No. I assume that you're referring to mass murders in contrast to serial murderers (i.e., the murderer kills more than 4 people in a limited period of time). There probably is good data on this but I haven't been able to find it (I haven't been looking long, though). There is an interesting passage on mass murder in Elliot Leyton's Hunting Humans which is available on books.google.com at: http://books.google.com/books?id=nhARuP0vLgMCpg=PA244lpg=PA244dq=%22mass+mu rder%22+frequency+fbisource=blots=d21KQ6PHCIsig=rdy9tpg1_zXji5UKhBAPll0D8XY hl=enei=_5PWSeTmLoTWlQfw-5ndDAsa=Xoi=book_resultct=resultresnum=1 or http://tinyurl.com/c3lejc An interesting comment made by Leyton is that mass murderers have not been analyzed much by the FBI (it's not a police problem) and there's no evidence that there has been an increase in recent years. Between 1976 and 1989, there was an average of 2 mass murders every month in the U.S. Again, there may be more recent data. -Mike Palij New York University m...@nyu.edu --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) **Hurry! April 15th is almost here. File your Federal taxes FREE with TaxACT. (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220714320x1201367638/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.taxact.com%2F08tax.asp%3Fsc%3D084102950001%26p%3D82) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu)
Re: [tips] TIPS Messages
I appreciate the props Nancy M. Make a Small Loan, Make a Big Difference - Check out Kiva.org to Learn How! In a message dated 3/27/2009 8:10:34 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, tay...@sandiego.edu writes: Mike has dropped the guantlet: So, which intro psych textbook do people think is best and why? I use a fellow-tipster's (Nancy Melucci) text entitled, Psychology the Easy Way for three reasons: (1) It costs $15 to the students--they don't have to take an extra part time job to pay for the books for my class and they can keep it as it's not worth selling back. (2) It is factually accurate (well a couple of small errors but these are more type-setting type errors than flagrant content area errors). (3) I like her writing style of challenging common false beliefs with factual evidence. That said, (sorry Nancy) I don't really like the abnormal chapter organized around DSM--as a non-clinician (I believe Nancy was trained as a clinician) I find it sort of confusing and not how many other texts present abnormal. It's *A* way to do it, but just doesn't resonate with me. And it is briefer than most texts but what I love about that is I can supplement with readings and the students can get the basic facts of psychological science from the book and I can tailor the readings to whatever theme I want to pursue that semester--and still not feel overwhelmed. My problems with most tests are twofold: (1) The costs are outrageous, largely driven, I believe by all those full color photographs that ADD NOTHING to students' udnerstanding of the content. I mean, honestly, a picture of Freud--everyone know what Freud looks like by now, does NOT add to an understanding of his works. A picture of a smiling person appearing in every chapter adds nothing to understanding the content of that chapter. I find the majority of full color pictures to be a complete waste as they have little to NO pedagogical value. (2) They overwhelm the students with TMI--No one can remember that much stuff from 15 weeks of a single class. If my students come out of the class with the basic facts and the basic tools of critical thinking, then I am in seventh heaven. OK, I'm going to read on for other people's favorites. Annette Annette Kujawski Taylor, Ph.D. Professor of Psychology University of San Diego 5998 Alcala Park San Diego, CA 92110 619-260-4006 tay...@sandiego.edu --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) **Free Credit Report and Score Tracking! Get it Now for $0 at CreditReport.com. (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220474599x1201401934/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.creditreport.com%3Fsrc%3Daolemail%26kwd%3Dmlftrtextlin k) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu)
Re: [tips] The Secret
Wasn't this a joke? Why remove it? I thought it was meant entirely facetiously. Nancy Melucci Long Beach City College Long Beach CA Make a Small Loan, Make a Big Difference - Check out Kiva.org to Learn How! In a message dated 3/10/2009 7:02:32 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, beth.ben...@gmail.com writes: For those who missed it (before it was removed) - let's HOPE it's been removed - here's the final paragraph of that hideous Amazon Customer Review: The next day in the exercise yard I carried The Secret with me and when Marcus approached me I opened the book and stabbed him in the neck. The next eight weeks in solitary confinement provided ample time to practice positive visualization and the 16 hours per day of absolute darkness made visualization about the only thing that I actually could do. I'm not sure that everybody's life will be changed in such a dramatic way by this book but I'm very thankful to have found it and will continue to recommend it heartily. Beth Benoit Granite State College Plymouth State University New Hampshire --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1219671244x1201345076/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%2 6hmpgID%3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu)
Re: [tips] Mind Hacks: Happy birthday Charles Dickens
I am confused now utterly - are we celebrating Voyage of the Beagle or Great Expectations? Nancy Melucci LBCC Make a Small Loan, Make a Big Difference - Check out Kiva.org to Learn How! In a message dated 2/12/2009 6:01:31 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, chri...@yorku.ca writes: I think that Mind Hacks may have actually struck the correct tone on this overly-somber occasion. _http://www.mindhacks.com/blog/2009/02/happy_birthday_charl.html_ (http://www.mindhacks.com/blog/2009/02/happy_birthday_charl.html) Chris -- Christopher D. Green Department of Psychology York University Toronto, ON M3J 1P3 Canada 416-736-2100 ex. 66164 _chri...@yorku.ca_ (mailto:chri...@yorku.ca) _http://www.yorku.ca/christo/_ (http://www.yorku.ca/christo/) == --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1218550342x1201216770/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=fe bemailfooterNO62) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu)
Re: [tips] 2009 AP Psychology Reading in Kansas City, Mo
I am going but will probably request a single room. Good luck finding a roommate. I hope to organize?a TIPS dinner outing. Last year's was pretty good fun. Nancy Melucci LBCC -Original Message- From: Julie Osland osla...@wju.edu To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) tips@acsun.frostburg.edu Sent: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 1:05 pm Subject: [tips] 2009 AP Psychology Reading in Kansas City, Mo Hi Tipsters--? ? Although most of the invites have gone out, I was surprised to not have seen discussion of this (yet), so I thought I'd bring it up. Who's going to be there?? ? Also, for those who are going, I'm looking for a roommate. My roommate arrangement for the past two years has fallen through (her husband was selected as a reader this year and so they're sharing a room). If you are someone or know of someone who's looking for a roommate, please e-mail me off-list.? ? Thank you,? ? Julie? ? -- ? Dr. Julie A. Osland, M.A., Ph.D.? Assistant Professor of Psychology? Wheeling Jesuit University? 316 Washington Avenue? Wheeling, WV 26003? ? Office: (304) 243-2329? e-mail: osla...@wju.edu? ? ---? To make changes to your subscription contact:? ? Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu)? --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu)
Re: [tips] Intro texts/the dest and worse
It's the SSDD. Dr. Sylvester is trying to start a fight with Myers too. There is nothing going on here that we haven't seen over and over and over again - this interminable self-serving list member harassment. Unlike me, Dave Myers has the good sense to ignore him. Nancy Melucci Long Beach City College Long Beach CA Make a Small Loan, Make a Big Difference - Check out Kiva.org to Learn How! In a message dated 1/7/2009 6:06:51 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, smcke...@ubishops.ca writes: Dear Tipsters, I also wonder why MS regards Myers as one of the worst, particularly because he takes pains to be less American-oriented than other texts, i.e., there are many cross-cultural references and ideas in his book. Michael, please tell us why you dislike Myers’s text? Stuart ___ Stuart J. McKelvie, Ph.D., Phone: (819)822-9600, Extension 2402 Department of Psychology, Fax: (819)822-9661 Bishop's University, 2600 College Street, Sherbrooke, Québec J1M 1Z7, Canada. E-mail: smcke...@ubishops.ca Bishop's University Psychology Department Web Page: _http://www.ubishops.ca/ccc/div/soc/psy_ (blocked::http://www.ubishops.ca/ccc/div/soc/psy) ___ From: Michael Smith [mailto:ersaram...@yahoo.com] Sent: January 7, 2009 5:02 AM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: Re: [tips] Intro texts/the dest and worse Why do you think Myers is one of the worst intro texts? --Mike --- On Tue, 1/6/09, msylves...@copper.net msylves...@copper.net wrote: From: msylves...@copper.net msylves...@copper.net Subject: [tips] Intro texts/the dest and worse To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) tips@acsun.frostburg.edu Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2009, 10:30 PM IMHO The best: Allen and Santrock/the definitive intro text and cross-cultural imports(.Allen is African-American) Rodney Plotnick The worse: Lahey Myers My favorite Experimental procedure texts are Claude Bernard (Experimental Medicine) and Murray Sidman (Tactics in Scientific research) My favorite text on color perception is the one edited by Ron Blue,Christopher Green,Stephen Black,Mike Pale and Carol De Velvet Michael Sylvester,PhD Daytona Beach,Florida no matter how beautiful the strategies,it helps to take a look at the results. Winston Churchill --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) **New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom0026) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu)
Re: [tips] Shame on Chris and David
Jeez, since when did having a PhD automatically confer an ability to handle anything? Not to mention OUR long history of tolerating snide posts that contain all manner of insult against women, gays, various ethnic groups etc. All made by the self-proclaimed cross cultural expert (I still don't buy this at all - being a member of a social or political minority doesn't make you automatically an expert in this realm) who in actuality is mocking, disrespecting and ridiculing the list, its members and its purpose every time he does so. If you feel picked on I would say that is a case of the shoe being on the other foot - not too comfortable, is it? Nancy Melucci Long Beach City College Long Beach CA Make a Small Loan, Make a Big Difference - Check out Kiva.org to Learn How! In a message dated 1/3/2009 10:31:24 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, paul.bran...@mnsu.edu writes: I have a long history of tolerating insults,ad hominem attacks,and other degrading comments from Beth and Nancy,but I can handle it-after all,I am PhD **New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom0026) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu)
Re: [tips] Interesting podcast/transcript - DSM
I find it - despite the fact that I should be desensitzed to it by now - profoundly discouraging that people still enroll in our intro psych course thinking the the vast majority of time will be spent on psychopathology. I keep assuming that word has gotten out over the past decade that psychology is an enormously diverse foundation course that can be applied to most majors, not just a course for future clinicians. In introductory psychology I focus on 1) educating my students about the actual statistics and process of the insanity defense (because of the enormous amount of ignorance and distortion around this topic) and 2) a skeptical look at the DSM and an overview of its structure and use. Indirectly related to this, I gave up (at least for now) teaching abnormal at my main school - because we DON'T require intro psych as a prerequisite, which substantially increases enrollment by substantially increasing the number of folks who enroll because they are looking to be diagnosed or to diagnose someone they know. And having little to no knowledge of fundamental neuroscience and the effects of stress on health, they are completely lost and overtly annoyed for most of the term. Nancy Melucci Long Beach City College Long Beach CA -Original Message- From: Joan Warmbold jwarm...@oakton.edu To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) tips@acsun.frostburg.edu Sent: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 1:24 pm Subject: Re: [tips] Interesting podcast/transcript - DSM Nancy, I think eliminating that topic is an excellent idea and will proceed to do so also EXCEPT to encourage skepticism on that entire topic. To me, covering abnormal pyschology in an introductory course is a classic example of a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. I've always been somewhat baffled at the significant number of psychology instructors who like to give their students exercises on identifying disorders. Come one--experts make errors there and it's a very subjective proposition. Why would we want to be encouraging our relatively novice students to be diagnosing disorders when we all also complain about their lack of critical thinking? I mean, to me that's asking for students to begin seeing mental disorders all around them--in themselves and their family and friends. Joan Joan Warmbold jwarm...@oakton.edu Hi, I think this examination of the problems with the latest re-write of the DSM is worth a listen or a read for all us psych teachers. Given the limited time I have to cover material in intro, I tend to focus on this controversy rather than teach the disorders and how they are classified. _http://www.onthemedia.org/transcripts/2008/12/26/05_ (http://www.onthemedia.org/transcripts/2008/12/26/05) As an experienced introductory psych teacher I actually have started to believe that abnormal can be skipped entirely and saved for an elective course. The course is still rich and interesting without it. But that's a discussion for another time. Enjoy. Happy New Year Nancy Melucci Long Beach City College Long Beach CA Make a Small Loan, Make a Big Difference - Check out Kiva.org to Learn How! **One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0025) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu)
Re: [tips] longevity thoughts
And if the number of posts that Michael made that are objectively assessed to be nothing but provocative, trolling nuisance content were tallied up, the rest of us would be millionaires too. You keep hinting that you might one day leave, and yet it never comes to pass. A terrible tease to those of us who send your stuff straight to the spam garbage can, and yet are subjected anyway to the detritus that your silly, self-serving posts stir up in the reactions of our colleagues whose posts we still receive. Nancy Melucci Long Beach City College Long Beach CA -Original Message- From: Christopher D. Green chri...@yorku.ca To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) tips@acsun.frostburg.edu Sent: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 12:48 pm Subject: Re: [tips] longevity thoughts Honestly Michael. Jewish conspiracy theories? You ought to be ashamed. You certainly make me ashamed to be subscribed to a list on which someone would say such a thing. Christopher (What's My Religion?) Green York U. Toronto msylves...@copper.net wrote: I was with Tips at its very inception.I remembered Paul Smith and Sandra McIntyre.As a matter of fact,I am the only black on Tips.Some of the Jewish tipsters engaged in a vicious campaign to question my credibility by writing to Mizzou to fimg out if I was a genuine graduate.I was a lecturer at Embry-Riddle but I continued to use ERAU as my e-mail address.A tipster wrote to ERAU and they took me off their server.Hence my longevity thoughts.But I continue to exists.If attempts to get me off the list were money,I would be a millionaire. Michael Sylvester,PhD Daytona Beach,Florida --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu)
[tips] Interesting podcast/transcript - DSM
Hi, I think this examination of the problems with the latest re-write of the DSM is worth a listen or a read for all us psych teachers. Given the limited time I have to cover material in intro, I tend to focus on this controversy rather than teach the disorders and how they are classified. _http://www.onthemedia.org/transcripts/2008/12/26/05_ (http://www.onthemedia.org/transcripts/2008/12/26/05) As an experienced introductory psych teacher I actually have started to believe that abnormal can be skipped entirely and saved for an elective course. The course is still rich and interesting without it. But that's a discussion for another time. Enjoy. Happy New Year Nancy Melucci Long Beach City College Long Beach CA Make a Small Loan, Make a Big Difference - Check out Kiva.org to Learn How! **One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0025) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu)
Re: [tips] classroom exercises for Human Sexuality?
Making genitals out of play-dough. I usually pair it up with making lists of names for these body parts, and a question and answer on anatomy and functioning (in place of a plumbing lecture). Depending on the class (so much does in the case of this course) it's a great way to get them comfortable. Nancy Melucci Long Beach City College Long Beach CA -Original Message- From: Beth Benoit bethben...@metrocast.net To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) tips@acsun.frostburg.edu Sent: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 7:35 pm Subject: [tips] classroom exercises for Human Sexuality? I'd be so grateful for any suggestions for classroom exercises I might use in the Human Sexuality course I'll be teaching in January. Beth Benoit Plymouth State University Granite State College New Hampshire -- We will not learn how to live in peace by killing each other's children. - Jimmy Carter Are our children more precious than theirs? --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu)
Re: [tips] Abstinence pledges
Wouldn't some type of ethical problem exist with such a randomization? I think the problem lies in the fabric of our culture, and these programs are like so many threadbare patches. There was research recently (I am travelling and cannot find it) that suggests that nothing really makes a difference - at least in terms of promoting prevention of pregnancy and disease. I suspect (nothing scientific about this) that as long as our culture promotes a pornographic attitude toward sexuality (portraying it graphically and commericallly yet suppressing any attempt to discuss it openly and constructively), as long as parents and communities either refuse to discuss it or are ill-equipped to discuss it with children, we will continue to have this problem. Adults approach this mostly thoughtlessly, and our children are likely to follow in our footsteps. They are only as good as we are, and we are rarely as good as we imagine ourselves to be. Abstinence education is the more ineffective of two (apparently) ineffective approaches. Puberty comes along (as someone wrote) with all the subtlety of a sledgehammer to the forehead, telling kids not to have sex at all is just sex-negative silliness...(delay to the late teens, more achievable perhaps and I am all for it for practical and heatlh related reasons). Puberty occurs earlier than ever, and marriage much later - this is not our kids' fault. But even in Jane Austen's day, when puberty was later and marriage earlier, most brides were pregnant at the altar (easily verified by looking at church registries and birth records). The good old days of sexual innocence is just one more popular myth. It would be better for public health if the pragmatic and realistic view, as opposed to the ideological, drove our policies on this matter. Nancy Melucci Long Beach City College Long Beach CA -Original Message- From: sbl...@ubishops.ca To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) tips@acsun.frostburg.edu Sent: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 10:21 am Subject: [tips] Abstinence pledges Interesting report of an evaluation of the abstinence pledge programme in _ The Washington Post_ today: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp- dyn/content/article/2008/12/28/AR2008122801588.html\\ or http://tinyurl.com/9cchth The headline: Premarital Abstinence Pledges Ineffective Study Finds Teenagers Who Make Such Promises Are Just as Likely to Have Sex, and Less Likely to Use Protection, the Data Indicate But a spokesperson for the National Abstinence Education Association disputed the finding, claiming It is remarkable that an author who employs rigorous research methodology would then compromise those standards by making wild, ideologically tainted and inaccurate analysis regarding the content of abstinence education programs. A critical question concerns the make-up of any control or contrast group, as those taking the virginity pledge undoubtedly differ in significant ways from those not, especially concerning attitudes towards sex and propensity for sexual behaviour (although the findings seem to indicate otherwise). I'd say that what is needed is to randomize teens to either an abstinence- only programme, or to a programme providing sex ed, and let the pregnancies fall where they may. Does any such research exist? Stephen - Stephen L. Black, Ph.D. Professor of Psychology, Emeritus Bishop's University e-mail: sbl...@ubishops.ca 2600 College St. Sherbrooke QC J1M 1Z7 Canada Subscribe to discussion list (TIPS) for the teaching of psychology at http://flightline.highline.edu/sfrantz/tips/ --- --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu)
Re: [tips] Statistical literacy, cancer, and psychotherapy
Happy Thanksgiving, tipsters, I think it is unfortunate that mind-over-matter mumbo jumbo has to be employed in order to sell healthy lifestyle choices. I don't think for one moment that exercising and eating a reasonably healthy diet will cure cancer, but it is well known that sedentary behaviors and high fat diets play a role in raising the risk of certain cancers (breast and color among them). We should be able to promote these strategies without the nonsense. Since exercise is a known mood enhancer and stress reliever, it should be recommended to those who have been diagnosed with cancer if they are physically able to engage, for the same reasons. It can't hurt, and it may very well help. If I was diagnosed tomorrow, I would hope that I could find the strength and will to continue my exercise program even if in a more limited regimen. I believe it would enhance my treatments to help me survive - not through magic but through real physical benefit. Nancy Melucci Long Beach City College Long Beach CA Make a Small Loan, Make a Big Difference - Check out Kiva.org to Learn How! In a message dated 11/27/2008 7:05:27 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Stephen, I don't know anything about Cox proportional hazards (except what I read in Wikipedia). I do know, however, that chi-square is not a very powerful test, and that it is is extra-lousy when the contignecy table it badly skewed, as it is here (you did include the non-occurrences (of death), right?). That is why it is conventional medical research (where most conditions are rare and, therefore, most contingency tables are badly skewed) to use odd ratios. There is no significance test I know of associated with odds ratios (but apparently there isn't one associated with Cox either). In this case, the odds ratio for cancer death would be: 25/88 .2841 = - = 1.4205 19/95 .2000 which meas that you are 42% more likely to die of breast cancer without the therapy, which sounds pretty important. But the whole point of Gigerenzer et al's piece was that relative measures of this sort can be misleading if the base rate is low, viz., that saying (if I recall the numbers in his article correctly) that mammography cuts the risk of breast cancer death by 33% sounds impressive, but when you tell people that it means, say, 2 fewer deaths in a thousand cases (*before* you even factor in the negative side effects of the procedure itself), they are (rightly) much less impressed. In the research that concerns you, however, the authors are claiming about 5.5 fewer deaths per 100 ([25/113 - 19/114]*100), which is more worthy of consideration that 2 in 1000, but is still not nearly the slam dunk that 42% sounds like. However, do not fret. I note that in their description of the aims of therapy was included the phrase, maintain adherence to cancer treatment. Now, if that was even partly accomplished by the therapy (that some people who would have otherwise quit conventional medical treatment were persuaded to continue to instead) then you have your answer without having to resort to spooky mind-over-matter claims. It was the medical treatment that saved these extra lives. What the therapy did was to ensure that a few extra people stayed with their medical treatments. Regards, Chris -- Christopher D. Green Department of Psychology York University Toronto, ON M3J 1P3 Canada 416-736-2100 ex. 66164 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) _http://www.yorku.ca/christo/_ (http://www.yorku.ca/christo/) == [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: While indolent Americans are sleeping off their turkey comas, hard- working Canadians, who would never indulge in such gormandising excess, continue to think big thoughts on psychology. Here´s one. It is widely believed, despite the absence of convincing evidence, that cancer can be influenced by psychological factors, such as thinking positive thoughts, having a healthful lifestyle, attending support groups, or receiving therapy. This drives me nuts. It´s hard enough for psychology to show any direct benefit from psychological intervention. How much less likely that psychology can influence the course of a dread disease with a clear biological basis. And this claim carries the pernicious implication that if you´ve got cancer, it must be because you´re doing something wrong. Yet. A just-published study (Andersen et al, 2008) reports on the progress of disease in women surgically treated for breast cancer and continuing with medical treatment. They report that women additionally exposed to 12 months of intensive group therapy, which included strategies to reduce stress, improve mood, alter health behaviours, and maintain adherence to cancer treatment, produced significant long-term benefits
Re: [tips] Is there a Judaism bias?
Actually I have taught on Sunday on many occasions in my career. I don't know whether you were being sarcastic or not, just mentioning it. Nancy Melucci Long Beach City College Long Beach CA Make a Small Loan, Make a Big Difference - Check out Kiva.org to Learn How! In a message dated 10/1/2008 5:25:20 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You have classes on Sundays? ;) m PS On my way moving out to Kansas from New York I went through Carlisle -- by accident (lost). It was fun, though, in spite of our lostness, to go through there. Very pretty. Marc Carter Associate Professor and Chair Department of Psychology -- There is no power for change greater than a community discovering what it cares about. -- Margaret Wheatley -Original Message- From: Helweg-Larsen, Marie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 3:47 PM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: RE: [tips] Is there a Judaism bias? Private US universities do not have to observe religious holidays. We have class on Easter, Jewish holidays, Martin Luther King Day, Labor day, etc. etc. We are asked to make accommodations for religious holidays as needed (students are not excused from the work only not penalized for the absence). Marie Marie Helweg-Larsen, Ph.D. Department Chair and Associate Professor of Psychology Kaufman 168, Dickinson College Carlisle, PA 17013 Office: (717) 245-1562, Fax: (717) 245-1971 Office Hours: Tues and Thur 9:30-10:30, Wed 10:30-11:45 http://alpha.dickinson.edu/departments/psych/helwegm http://alpha.dickinson.edu/departments/psych/helwegm From: Christopher D. Green [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 3:08 PM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: Re: [tips] Is there a Judaism bias? The situation at York was complicated, and is now about to change. York was founded as a university at which Jewish students would not have to compete for limited quota spaces (as they did at U. Toronto, McGill and most other Canadian -- and American -- universities at the time). Partly as a result of that history, classes were canceled on Jewish holidays (as well as on major Christian holidays, which is mandated by legal statute, as it is in most places in North America). Over the years, the proportion of Jewish students at York has fallen to a point where it is smaller than the proportions represented by several other religious groups, so the class cancellation policy has gradually become a matter of historical precedent. In fact, however, there is a long list of holidays from every conceivable religion (around 200, as I recall) which York professors are supposed to allow students to observe (by giving them reasonable alternative access to the materials covered and by not holding tests on those days): http://www.registrar.yorku.ca/importantdates/religiousdates.htm Although it would cause chaos if every class had to observe every such holiday, in practice it does not come up very often (the last day of Ramadam, Eid ul-Fitr, is the only one that has ever been brought to my attention by a student in my classes). As it turns out, the school was sued by one of its professors last year for canceling classes on Jewish holidays but not on the the holidays of every other religion, and his discrimination claim was upheld by the courts. Starting next year, York will not no longer cancel classes on Jewish holidays (though we will be probably expected to give students reasonable alternative access on these days, as with other holidays.) Regards, Chris -- Christopher D. Green Department of Psychology York University Toronto, ON M3J 1P3 Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.yorku.ca/christo/ phone: 416-736-2100 ext. 66164 fax: 416-736-5814 == Michael Smith wrote: I would say yes, though those who disagree can point to Christmas as a Christian holiday (but I think if they are to be consistent, then they would have to rule that out since it isn't granted as a religious holiday but a secular one more in line with Coke than Jesus). At York I do remember the 'special arrangements' for Jewish students but not for any other. Again, some may say that if you have a special religious need you may also be able to be accommodated, but it does seem that the recognized system level one is Jewish. --Mike --- On Tue, 9/30/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [tips] Is there a Judaism bias? To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) tips@acsun.frostburg.edu mailto:tips@acsun.frostburg.edu Date: Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 10:50 AM It seems that Deans and other administrative officials
Re: [tips] Gay/Lesbian Students in a large lecture human sexuality class
Some of this stuff I do, some are suggestions I appreciate very much. I think my text is OK (Carroll). The class skews young, including the gay and lesbian students along with everyone else, which makes it tough. I don't put pressure on everyone. I hope I haven't been implying that I know more about straight than other relationships. It would be more accurate to say that I feel at a loss to answer questions about same sex relationships (except for dynamics that would probably work the same way regardless of the gender of the people involved), the way I feel at a loss to answer questions about men's experiences etc. I am appreciative when people who DO know speak up about these things (and it makes discussion livelier that way also). I'll keep working on it. I'd rather teach 5 sections of 20 kids, but I'd rather be in Hawaii right now too. I appreciate your taking the time to help me. Nancy -Original Message- From: Helweg-Larsen, Marie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) tips@acsun.frostburg.edu Sent: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 9:17 am Subject: RE: [tips] Gay/Lesbian Students in a large lecture human sexuality class Hi Nancy I have also taught Human Sexuality with 90 students and it can challenging. Here are my thoughts on what to do and not to do. Of course you might always be doing (or not doing) these things. (1) Make it a habit to say “in a study of heterosexual couples” or “in a sample of straight college students”. That communicates clearly to the students that you are well aware that these results only cover some people/types of relationships. (2) Add to your lectures by including research on gays/lesbians. For example, when you cover “Marriage/relationships” cover also gay/lesbian relationships (lot of research on that). If you can’t find research on a given topic, say that there is little research on X for gays/lesbians and one could imagine that it would show the same/different results. (3) Bring in a panel of gays/lesbian students (or adults) to talk about their experiences. That is one of the most successful thing I do in terms of speakers. (4) Most text books do a terribly job of covering gay/lesbian issues (they do have a heterosexist bias). Next time pick a text that does a better job of including gays/lesbians (I used to use the Strong et al text because it did a good job of integrating the information on gays/lesbians and ethnic minorities). (5) I’ve had a lot of success with giving students index cards where they can ask a question anonymously (indicating only their gender) about anything they want to know about sex. I don’t end up answering every question necessarily (and never answer them without researching them) but I use them to insert into the relevant lectures or as a fun aside in a given class. This would give every student an opportunity to ask their question about their situation. I would not: 1) Put special pressure or emphasis on the gay/lesbian students in the class. That can be really uncomfortable and places their experiences in a special situation that the other students’ experiences are not (e.g. we don’t call on the impotent men when we talk about sexual dysfunction!). I would give the gay/lesbian students the same opportunities to contribute or suggest lecture material as all the other students have. If you wouldn’t call on a black student to talk about racism I wouldn’t call on a gay student to talk about gay sex. They can volunteer as they see fit. 2) Suggest to the students that you “know” more about heterosexual relationships because you are straight (although that might be true). The lectures are based on research and the professor’s or student’s personal experiences is not what should be covered in class (although it can certain guide the direction of the research discussed). If the text book is lacking in presenting research on gay/lesbian issues then you’ll probably just have to do more of that research yourself. Good luck. It can be a really fun but also hard class to teach. Marie Marie Helweg-Larsen, Ph.D. Department Chair and Associate Professor of Psychology Kaufman 168, Dickinson College Carlisle, PA 17013 Office: (717) 245-1562, Fax: (717) 245-1971 Office Hours: Tues and Thur 9:30-10:30, Wed 10:30-11:45 http://alpha.dickins on.edu/departments/psych/helwegm From: FRANTZ, SUE [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 9:53 AM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: RE: [tips] Gay/Lesbian Students in a large lecture human sexuality class Interesting question Nancy… Since I’m not in your class, I can’t really comment on what you are or are not doing – or even that it’s you -- that’s prompted that response. If it were me, I’d leave 10 minutes at the end of class one
[tips] Gay/Lesbian Students in a large lecture human sexuality class
Hi, I teach a 90 student human sexuality class. This (the large?size)?is not my idea and not at all ideal. I don't think a human sexuality class in psychology (as opposed to health) should be so large - it makes discussion difficult. But this is administration's call and of course it saves money not to run two concurrent small?sections. Needless to say, I understand the environment may be daunting for students who are sexual minorities. The discussion skews toward male-female, heterosexual themes (as they compromise the majority of enrolled students). I do offer a wide variety of topics and themes?in videos and?guest speakers including GLBT?materials.? ?For the second time in 2 years I have been informed by other students that there are gay/lesbian students who feel left out of the discussion. As I DO make comments and interjections trying to (to the best of my limited ability) introduce the perspective of homosexuals/bisexuals into discussions (I am straight, and I feel as if I may not be able to accurately portray those views). I am anxious and unsure of what else to do. I would appreciate suggestions, if I am guilty of running a heterosexist class on how to help these students feel more included. Or, other perspectives if perhaps (as I've wondered) they should speak out and claim some turf if they want to be heard?(as I have made it clear I am there to help all students speak about their experiences if they so choose to do). Nancy Melucci Long Beach City College --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [tips] Abstinence? Yes. Sex too.
Yes - the fact that those who design abstinence programs want to believe that their programs are effective and are motivated more directly by ideology AND respondents want to give answers than make them sound good. This could be another variant of social desirability or fake good (so to speak. Nancy Melucci Long Beach City College Long Beach CA Make a Small Loan, Make a Big Difference - Check out Kiva.org to Learn How! In a message dated 8/13/2008 3:24:37 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'd like to see the actual survey. Looks like a response bias might account for these results. Bill Scott Shearon, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/13/08 5:50 PM Thought some might be interested in this one from MSNBC today. Our tax dollars at work- if this comes across as scary maybe we weren't thinking ahead. But it surely merits as a discussion starter (assuming you are free to discuss it, of course). The opposite of sex? Adults, teens beg to differ Teens often hold seemingly contradictory ideas about having sex, a new study shows, confounding the abstinence-only sex education message supported by over a billion dollars of federal funding. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26159311/from/ET/ Tim ___ Timothy O. Shearon, PhD Professor and Chair Department of Psychology The College of Idaho Caldwell, ID 83605 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] teaching: intro to neuropsychology; psychopharmacology; general; history and systems You can't teach an old dogma new tricks. Dorothy Parker -Original Message- From: Rob Weisskirch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 8/13/2008 3:43 PM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: [tips] What to do with old textbooks? TIPSfolks, Does anyone have a good resource for what to do with old(ish) textbooks? As many of you know, publishers have many texts that turn around every two years and won't send older versions to bookstores. So, I am purging my shelves of textbooks and wonder if there are better uses than just recycling. Most of the texts are 6-10 years old and all are developmental. Ideas? Rob Rob Weisskirch, MSW. Ph.D. Associate Professor of Human Development Certified Family Life Educator Liberal Studies Department California State University, Monterey Bay 100 Campus Center, Building 82C Seaside, CA 93955 (831) 582-5079 [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message is intended only for the addressee and may contain confidential, privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy or disclose any information contained in the message. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender by reply e-mail and delete the message. --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) **Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut000517 ) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [tips] What good are the fine arts?
Over the course of my adult life I have been consistently amused by the pervasive and short-sighted notion that some how areas of knowledge either conflict with each other or exist in separate little vacuum-packed compartments. I think to some extent artists are more guilty of repudiating scientists than vise-versa but there are guilty parties on all sides. There is so much overlap between disciplines and skill in one often draws upon others (think of the mathematical basis of perspective in visual arts, for example). Our science illuminates a wide variety of other areas and is in turn enhanced by those areas (literature, creative arts, mathematics, there are many others). To the extent that the departments in a college or university view themselves as competitors for the attention of students (or antagonists), future generations of thinkers and scholars are sold short, or misled. njm Make a Small Loan, Make a Big Difference - Check out Kiva.org to Learn How! In a message dated 7/22/2008 5:50:28 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Scientists often deride fine arts education as being fluffy (or worse). Harvard medical school has found out differently. From today's Inside Higher Ed: At a time when medical schools worry about their students’ declining powers of observation, art may turn things around. Researchers at Brigham and Women’ s Hospital conducted an experiment in which Harvard Medical Students received instruction at the Boston Museum of Fine Arts on how to carefully examine and discuss fine arts, using works by Picasso, Monet and others. _The results,_ (http://www.brighamandwomens.org/Pressreleases/PressRelease.aspx?PageID=385) which appear in the new issue of the Journal of General Internal Medicine, show that these students experienced significant improvements in their observations of patients. Chris -- Christopher D. Green Department of Psychology York University Toronto, ON M3J 1P3 Canada 416-736-2100 ex. 66164 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) _http://www.yorku.ca/christo/_ (http://www.yorku.ca/christo/) Part of respecting another person is taking the time to criticise his or her views. - Melissa Lane, in a Guardian obituary for philosopher Peter Lipton = --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) **Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr000520) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
[tips] Grading discrepancy
Hi all, Hope you are having good summer down time. I need some guidance. The names have been changed to protect the somewhat innocent. School X is my full time job, school Y is a steady part time gig. School X is in a working class/poor neighborhood, school Y is in an affluent area of LA. Students at school X are more likely to be working and students at school Y are more likely to be fully supported by their families. Cheating is more likely to occur at school Y although it is not unknown at school X. I tend to monitor school Y students more closely because of this. In my psychology 1 classes, I teach and grade the same way. I offer open-book pop quizzes, exams with a limited number of notes allowed, one take home exam and a required term paper. My grade curve at school X is more evenly distributed than at school?Y where it is much higher. I am getting in trouble because of the high average in my school Y classes and might lose this job (since school X doesn't always provide summer work - 10 month contract - I kind of don't want that to happen). I've taught at Y since 2000. I feel attached to it. I have considered the possibility that I am being a lenient part timer at school Y, but I really don't think so. If anything, when I sit down to grade the work of those students I am more likely to be in a negative frame of mind (the students at school Y are VERY immature and behave badly in class).? The fact is they generally do better on the MC/objective sections of my tests than school X students. I am discussing this with my department head. I have considered going to closed book exams at school Y. She suggests using a curve. It seems unfair to me to do things differently at school Y just because they do better. They may be poorly behaved, but they are generally pretty bright. I am just looking for thoughtful opinions and guidance. I really believe I am being honest with myself and portraying this fairly. Thanks for your help. Nancy Melucci Long Beach CA www.kiva.org? - check it out! --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [tips] Grading discrepancy
To clarify for Marie and others: My department head at Y wants a more evenly distributed assortment of grades. I am at risk of not being re-hired. I appreciate the suggestions. Thanks. Nancy -Original Message- From: Helweg-Larsen, Marie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) tips@acsun.frostburg.edu Sent: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 6:36 am Subject: RE: [tips] Grading discrepancy Hi Nancy Could you clarify one thing for me. What is the conflict exactly – that you don’t have the same standards at two very different schools? It seems to me that it would be nearly impossible (and in fact undesirable) to have the same standards at schools where the students differ so much (incl. how much time they have to devote to school work or just how bright they are). I would simply challenge the students more at school Y. You can certainly keep the assignments the same but demand more of the students for each assignment (papers need to have more references, be better written, exams should be more difficult, etc.). You can also (if you find the immaturity a problem at school Y) assign more points to appropriate classroom behaviors (“good citizen grade” is what I call it). Marie Marie Helweg-Larsen, Ph.D. Department Chair and Associate Professor of Psychology Kaufman 168, Dickinson College Carlisle, PA 17013 Office: (717) 245-1562, Fax: (717) 245-1971 http://alp ha.dickinson.edu/departments/psych/helwegm From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 9:22 AM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: [tips] Grading discrepancy Hi all, Hope you are having good summer down time. I need some guidance. The names have been changed to protect the somewhat innocent. School X is my full time job, school Y is a steady part time gig. School X is in a working class/poor neighborhood, school Y is in an affluent area of LA. Students at school X are more likely to be working and students at school Y are more likely to be fully supported by their families. Cheating is more likely to occur at school Y although it is not unknown at school X. I tend to monitor school Y students more closely because of this. In my psychology 1 classes, I teach and grade the same way. I offer open-book pop quizzes, exams with a limited number of notes allowed, one take home exam and a required term paper. My grade curve at school X is more evenly distributed than at school Y where it is much higher. I am getting in trouble because of the high average in my school Y classes and might lose this job (since school X doesn't always provide summer work - 10 month contract - I kind of don't want that to happen). I've taught at Y since 2000. I feel attached to it. I have considered the possibility that I am being a lenient part timer at school Y, but I really don't think so. If anything, when I sit down to grade the work of those students I am more likely to be in a negative frame of mind (the students at school Y are VERY immature and behave badly in class). The fact is they generally do better on the MC/objective sections of my tests than school X students. I am discussing this with my department head. I have considered going to closed book exams at school Y. She suggests using a curve. It seems unfair to me to do things differently at school Y just because they do better. They may be poorly behaved, but they are generally pretty bright. I am just looking for thoughtful opinions and guidance. I really believe I am being honest with myself and portraying this fairly. Thanks for your help. Nancy Melucci Long Beach CA www.kiva.org - check it out! The Famous, the Infamous, the Lame - in your browser. Get the TMZ Toolbar Now! --- o make changes to your subscription contact: ill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [tips] Psychiatric Group Faces Scrutiny Over Drug Industry Ties - NYTimes...
Right. I think this is an excellent development. Psychologists have been lobbying to get prescription privileges for years now and this would go long with that. The scrutiny is warranted. The influence of pushers of the legal drugs (recreation and therapeutic) need to be at least made known to the public, at least so those of us who care to be aware of how policy is shaped through their financial interactions with government and other agencies that purport to be acting in our interest. This is long overdue. Nancy Melucci Long Beach City College Long Beach CA Make a Small Loan, Make a Big Difference - Check out Kiva.org to Learn How! In a message dated 7/13/2008 6:20:27 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Did you know that nearly 1/3 of the American Psychiatric Association's budget comes from the pharmaceutical industry, in the form of journal ads and convention exhibits? Did you know that the current president-elect of the American Psychiatric Association has a nearly-$5 million stake in a drug development company? Now a Republican senator is demanding to see the other APA's books, declaring that money from the pharmaceutical industry can shape the practices of nonprofit organizations that purport to be independent. The APA's Board is in conclave in Chicago this weekend, developing a response. Here's a New York Times article about it: _http://tinyurl.com/5b8agx_ (http://tinyurl.com/5b8agx) Chris -- Christopher D. Green Department of Psychology York University Toronto, ON M3J 1P3 Canada 416-736-2100 ex. 66164 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) _http://www.yorku.ca/christo/_ (http://www.yorku.ca/christo/) Part of respecting another person is taking the time to criticise his or her views. - Melissa Lane, in a Guardian obituary for philosopher Peter Lipton = --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) **Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus0005000112) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
[tips] Syllabus favor
Hi all, In a little over one week, I am going to be teaching a short term summer class in behavior modification. I have a textbook (Miltenberger). Sadly, I have managed to lose the one hard copy of an old syllabus that the department gave to me, due to ongoing problems with chronic idiocy. If anyone has taught this course and has an electronic syllabus he or she is willing to share, I'd be grateful. Also I am interested in suggestions for activities. The class meets 8 times for about 4 hours a pop, in the evening, so I am going to be looking for good ways to keep the students engaged. Hope that all the US Tipsters enjoyed the holiday, and that the Canadian and international tipsters had a nice time this weekend too. Nancy Melucci Long Beach City College Long Beach CA Make a Small Loan, Make a Big Difference - Check out Kiva.org to Learn How! **Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut000507) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [tips] Social Amnesia
Among the experiences about which Americans had a form of social amnesia, I would list (until about the 3rd quarter of the 20th Century) the protracted genocide of Native American peoples. Nancy Melucci Long Beach City College Make a Small Loan, Make a Big Difference - Check out Kiva.org to Learn How! In a message dated 6/24/2008 6:26:26 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Quick related question to ponder as we think about this interesting psychological question--I will pose this to my social psych friends as well--why are people rebuilding in the 9th ward--well below sea level and clearly subject to flooding unless superhuman levies can be built at great expense (and why even go to this expense just to rebuild homes in this area) in New Orleans? I will ask my NO friends about this too. Annette Annette Kujawski Taylor, Ph.D. Professor of Psychology University of San Diego 5998 Alcala Park San Diego, CA 92110 619-260-4006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Original message Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 08:30:55 -0400 From: Mike Palij [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [tips] Socil Amnesia To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) tips@acsun.frostburg.edu Cc: Mike Palij [EMAIL PROTECTED] Recently there was a re-broadcast of the American Experience episode on the great flu pandemic of 1918 (entitled Influenza 1918; program transcript and other materials are available at: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/influenza/filmmore/index.html Additonal sources on the 1918 flue pandemic is available at: http://virus.stanford.edu/uda/ http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/EID/vol12no01/05-0979.htm http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/influenza-epidemic/ http://nmhm.washingtondc.museum/collections/archives/agalleries/1918flu/1918f lu.html http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/content/full/331/7531/1536 Given that the 1918 flu pandemic killed over 50 millions people worldwide, that it significantly affected daily life in the U.S. (the American Experiences episode makes this clear), and given the uncertainty about its origin and the possibility of its re-emergence, I'd like to ask a couple of questions that were raised in the AE episode (1) Why is so little about this pandemic included in our school curriculum, especially in history and biology courses, and (2) Even though it had a tremendous impact on popular culture at the time, a social amnesia seems to have developed about it, with few people remembering or knowing about it (the AE episode shows several survivors who provide oral histories about their experience with the flu). One of the more obvious manifestations of fear of the flu was the widespread use of surgical masks in public to prevent transmission (as it would turn out, the masks were inadequate). How could something so horrific be forgotten? What might be the cognitive and social processes involved in such social amnesia? Might it be due to overly optimistic expectations that such a thing cannot happen again and an avoidance of review of the events? One reason I ask is because today in the U.S. we are seeing scenes of widespread flooding in the U.S. midwest, devastating communities which were built in flood plains (i.e., land areas that a river, like the Mississippi, sometimes span over). Indeed, the floods are pretty bad but similar floods had occurred previously in the 1990's and periodically before that. Undoubtedly, some people will return after the floods have gone and will rebuild their homes in the flood plain, only to have them flooded again at some time in the not too distant future. Why? -Mike Palij New York University [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) **Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut000507) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [tips] allowing infants to cry
How about us telling you to do that? Shut up, Michael. Yeah, it is going to be about as effective as telling the infant to do that. But you deserve it much, much more. Nancy Melucci Long Beach City College. Long Beach CA Make a Small Loan, Make a Big Difference - Check out Kiva.org to Learn How! In a message dated 6/17/2008 3:21:05 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How about dad telling the infant to SHUT UP Michael Sylvester,PhD Daytona Beach,Florida **Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut000507) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [tips] Asch conformity replication
It's a fairy tale we (Americans) continually like to tell ourselves...that we are rugged individualists and mavericks. There is a difference between the cultural emphasis (which there is, compared to, let's say, the collectivist emphasis in China) and actual behavior. I am sure that people in Asch's time believed that they were rebels too... Nancy Melucci Long Beach City College Long Beach CA -Original Message- From: Allen Esterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) tips@acsun.frostburg.edu Sent: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 4:09 am Subject: [tips] Asch conformity replication On 13 June 2008 Chris Green wrote: A fellow at UC Santa Cruz has replicated Solomon Asch's classic conformity study. Yes, of course people are just as conforming as they were in the '50s. :-) Read about it here: http://ahp.yorku.ca/ I would have thought that the propensity of human beings to conform under the influence of peer pressure was a universal phenomenon. Discuss! Allen Esterson Former lecturer, Science Department Southwark College, London http://www.esterson.org --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
[tips] Tipsters at the AP reading in KC
Hi. Any tipsters who'll be reading for the College Board in Kansas City next week, I'd love to organize an expedition away from the cafeteria food served at the reading center to get some other cuisine (is sushi available in KC? Or even just good southern cooking?) and drinks. Let me know if you'll be there and let's get together and discuss. Nancy Melucci Long Beach City College Long Beach CA Make a Small Loan, Make a Big Difference - Check out Kiva.org to Learn How! **Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch Cooking with Tyler Florence on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?NCID=aolfod000302) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [tips] Tipsters at the AP reading in KC
I don't necessarily want to be tied to the free night anyway. I hope we can find a night we all agree on. The food's OK but I don't think we'll be missing anything special if we skip one free dinner. And I wasn't planning on a super-expensive restaurant so I think we should all be able to manage it. I'll collect the emails and try to keep the rest of the discussion off tips. njm Make a Small Loan, Make a Big Difference - Check out Kiva.org to Learn How! In a message dated 6/2/2008 10:18:25 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Darn! that my birthday :) Annette Original message Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 09:38:25 -0600 From: Penley, Julie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [tips] Tipsters at the AP reading in KC To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) tips@acsun.frostburg.edu I read that the free night is supposed to be Thurs. the 12th. However, I think that's also the night that STP is doing a teaching take-outs. Julie Julie A. Penley, Ph.D. Associate Professor of Psychology Special Projects Assistant to the Dean (ESL, Reading, and Social Sciences) El Paso Community College PO Box 20500 El Paso, TX 79998-0500 Office phone: (915) 831-3210 Department fax: (915) 831-2324 From: Wright, Melissa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon 6/2/2008 9:24 AM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: RE: [tips] Tipsters at the AP reading in KC I'll be there as well, count me in! Apparently this year we're having a free night where they'll give us $25 back for dining out, so maybe we could plan it for that night (or another so we can avoid the food 2 nights - although the rumor is that it's supposed to be better this year). -Liz Wright From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 8:50 AM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: [tips] Tipsters at the AP reading in KC Hi. Any tipsters who'll be reading for the College Board in Kansas City next week, I'd love to organize an expedition away from the cafeteria food served at the reading center to get some other cuisine (is sushi available in KC? Or even just good southern cooking?) and drinks. Let me know if you'll be there and let's get together and discuss. Nancy Melucci Long Beach City College Long Beach CA Make a Small Loan, Make a Big Difference - Check out Kiva.org to Learn How! Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch Cooking with Tyler Florence on AOL Food. --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) **Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch Cooking with Tyler Florence on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?NCID=aolfod000302) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [tips] SAT for selection
I am wondering if we have an empirical basis (research of some type) for the claim that high school GPAs are inflated. Nancy Melucci Long Beach City College Long Beach CA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) tips@acsun.frostburg.edu Sent: Wed, 28 May 2008 9:11 am Subject: Re: [tips] SAT for selection But if you toss on the SAT then what will you use to made admissions decisions? Clearly high school GPAs are so inflated as to be nonsensical. Regardless of effect sizes, at leat for our freshmen, the SAT-V is the best predictor we have at the moment. Annette Annette Kujawski Taylor, Ph.D. Professor of Psychology University of San Diego 5998 Alcala Park San Diego, CA 92110 619-260-4006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Original message Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 00:36:33 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [tips] SAT for selection To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) tips@acsun.frostburg.edu I use the relationship of SAT to College vs HS GPA in my stats class as an example of the importance in considering effect sizes. Both the College Board and Fair Test use the same correlations and regressions. They each characterize the magnitudes (effect sizes) differently. The College Board uses language that makes the effect sizes look larger than they are. Fair Test actually reports effect sizes and characterizes them as small. Imagine if you used prediction models like this to make financial decisions. You may as well invest your money at the Blackjack Table. From the College Board: The SAT has proven to be an important predictor of success in college. Its validity as a predictor of success has been demonstrated through hundreds of validity studies. These validity studies consistently find that high school grades and SAT scores together are substantial and significant predictors of achievement in college. In these studies, although high school grades typically are slightly better predictors of achievement, SAT scores add significantly to the prediction. These findings tend to hold for all subgroups of students and for all types of measures - freshman grades, course grades, cumulative grades, and measures of persistence. From Fair Test: Validity research at individual institutions illustrates the weak predictive ability of the SAT. One study looked at the power of high school class rank, SAT I, and SAT II in predicting cumulative college GPAs. Researchers found that the SAT I was by far the weakest predictor, explaining only 4% of the variation in college grades, while SAT II scores accounted for 6.8% of the differences in academic performance. By far the most useful tool proved to be class rank, which predicted 9.3% of the changes in cumulative GPAs. Combining SAT I scores and class rank inched this figure up to 11.3%, leaving almost 90% of the variation in grades unexplained. It's all about effect size. The bottom line is that for a variety of reasons, we cannot predict success in college with any reasonable accuracy. My proposal is that we use a very rough cut-off based on High School grades or rank to make an initial selection and then run a fair lottery to determine who gets accepted. We may as well operate on the truth rather than lies. Have you ever counseled a student who was rejected from college or graduate school. They believe they did not work hard enough or did not have some necessary credential. The truth is that they likely fell into the 90% random, unaccounted for error in prediction. The situation is even worse for applications to graduate and professional schools. It is all a lottery posing as some sort of scientific selection process. Mike Williams http://mindcampus.learnpsychology.com ** Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch Cooking with Tyler Florence on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?NCID=aolfod000302) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [tips] SAT for selection
This does not answer my question...I teach my students that their own counting of hits and misses in the natural world is influenced by confirmation bias. I assume that mine is also and by default so is that of my colleagues. With all due respect, I would like some controlled research that verifies the claim. Nancy M. LBCC Long Beach CA -Original Message- From: John W. Nichols, M.A. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) tips@acsun.frostburg.edu Sent: Wed, 28 May 2008 12:59 pm Subject: Re: [tips] SAT for selection Must be. Look at those getting into our classrooms. (We are 100% pen-door [and 50% revolving-door], so I get to see the full range of tudents.) Perhaps Alcohol Consumption would be a more effective predictor of ollege performance. How could that not product an effect size of ote? FIGMO — 65 Days and counting!) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am wondering if we have an empirical basis (research of some type) for the claim that high school GPAs are inflated. Nancy Melucci Long Beach City College Long Beach CA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) tips@acsun.frostburg.edu Sent: Wed, 28 May 2008 9:11 am Subject: Re: [tips] SAT for selection But if you toss on the SAT then what will you use to made admissions ecisions? Clearly high school GPAs are so inflated as to be nonsensical. Regardless of effect sizes, at leat for our freshmen, the SAT-V is the best predictor we have at the moment. Annette Annette Kujawski Taylor, Ph.D. Professor of Psychology University of San Diego 5998 Alcala Park San Diego, CA 92110 619-260-4006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Original message Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 00:36:33 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [tips] SAT for selection To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) tips@acsun.frostburg.edu I use the relationship of SAT to College vs HS GPA in my stats class as an example of the importance in considering effect sizes. Both the College Board and Fair Test use the same correlations and regressions. They each characterize the magnitudes (effect sizes) differently. The College Board uses language that makes the effect sizes look larger than they are. Fair Test actually reports effect sizes and characterizes them as small. Imagine if you used prediction models like this to make financial decisions. You may as well invest your money at the Blackjack Table. From the College Board: The SAT has proven to be an important predictor of success in college. Its validity as a predictor of success has been demonstrated through hundreds of validity studies. These validity studies consistently find that high school grades and SAT scores together are substantial and significant predictors of achievement in college. In these studies, although high school grades typically are slightly better predictors of achievement, SAT scores add significantly to the prediction. These findings tend to hold for all subgroups of students and for all types of measures - freshman grades, course grades, cumulative grades, and measures of persistence. From Fair Test: Validity research at individual institutions illustrates the weak predictive ability of the SAT. One study looked at the power of high school class rank, SAT I, and SAT II in predicting cumulative college GPAs. Researchers found that the SAT I was by far the weakest predictor, explaining only 4% of the variation in college grades, while SAT II scores accounted for 6.8% of the differences in academic performance. By far the most useful tool proved to be class rank, which predicted 9.3% of the changes in cumulative GPAs. Combining SAT I scores and class rank inched this figure up to 11.3%, leaving almost 90% of the variation in grades unexplained. It's all about effect size. The bottom line is that for a variety of reasons, we cannot predict success in college with any reasonable accuracy. My proposal is that we use a very rough cut-off based on High School grades or rank to make an initial selection and then run a fair lottery to determine who gets accepted. We may as well operate on the truth rather than lies. Have you ever counseled a student who was rejected from college or graduate school. They believe they did not work hard enough or did not have some necessary credential. The truth is that they likely fell into the 90% random, unaccounted for error in prediction. The situation is even worse for applications to graduate and professional schools. It is all a lottery posing as some sort of scientific selection process. Mike Williams http://mindcampus.learnpsychology.com ** Get trade secrets for
Re: [tips] Smith College Wake Forrest U Drop Entrance Exam Requirement
Hello, It was written, I just went to my son's HS award ceremonies and the same upper SES students got all the awards.? It is not at all clear to me that including the SATs in the admissions process?fixes the problem you are describing. These families are the ones that not only have access to all the same educational and cultural goodies but also buy their children expensive ($1000+) test prep that DOES in many cases?brings large score increases for the kids. The problem goes beyond the SATs, GPAs etc to fairy tales we tell ourselves about how all kids get an equal start in this country. It's not true. And if you don't believe me, try counting the number of people familiar to you who have gone house poor to be residents in an area with a great, well-funded public school. What they are doing is paying tuition to a crypto-private school. It's pretty much the same problem as in our justice system - the best your money can buy. And this helps to maintain the status quo. Ironically not the intent of the people who designed these tests. Nancy Melucci Long Beach City College Long Beach CA -Original Message- From: Ken Steele [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) tips@acsun.frostburg.edu Sent: Tue, 27 May 2008 7:00 am Subject: Re: [tips] Smith College Wake Forrest U Drop Entrance Exam Requirement The WFU decision was poorly thought out and I bet it will backfire on them in the near future.? ? 1. WFU had about 9000 applicants this year. They are going to rely more heavily on personal interviews. They have 12 people in admissions. That works out to be about 750 interviews per staff person. (And we know how good are clinical judgments.)? ? 2. WFU wants to reduce the admission bias that favors upper SES families. So, in addition to interviews, they will rely on GPA and extracurricular activities. But guess which group has time to engage in all those Spirit, Junior Business Leader, drama, soccer, band and other favored activities. Which group is working at McDonalds after school?? ? I just went to my son's HS award ceremonies and the same upper SES students got all the awards.? ? WFU could have taken the stance that they wouldn't weigh the SAT as heavily in the admissions process. Instead they threw the baby out with the bathwater.? ? Ken? ? Disclaimer: My daughter applied and was admitted to WFU. She didn't matriculate because we couldn't afford the cost.? ? Mike Palij wrote:? The link below is to the NY Times story on this but other sources? are probably available:? http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/27/education/27sat.html?_r=1oref=slogin? There are at least two implications of this decision:? (1) More colleges and universities will feel justified in dropping? standardized tests (e.g., SAT, ACT, etc.), thus, increasing the? reliance on other measures of academic abiliity and decreasing? the need for standardized tests? and? (2) If ETS, the College Board, and other test providers begin? to find their customer basis shrinking, what will happen to them? and the psychometricians and statisticians they employ?? Will psychological testing become and even more esoteric field? of study? What will happen to the undergraduate tests and measurement course?? -Mike Palij? New York University? [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---? To make changes to your subscription contact:? Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED])? ? -- ? ---? Kenneth M. Steele, Ph.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Professor? Department of Psychology http://www.psych.appstate.edu? Appalachian State University? Boone, NC 28608? USA? ---? ? ---? To make changes to your subscription contact:? ? Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED])? --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
[tips] Off topic, not appropriate and I don't care
Hi, Just wanted to urge you all to check out KIVA _www.Kiva.org_ (http://www.Kiva.org) the charity that organizes, disburses and usually pays back microloans to entrepreneurs in developing nations. I figured this was such a cool undertaking that it was worth the risk that I'll get scolded or possibly banned. If this is an abuse of TIPS it is no more so than the endless tangential materials dispersed and created by some other members. I guess I'll get kicked off anyway if that's what the powers that be ordain. Nancy Melucci Long Beach City College Long Beach CA **Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod000301) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [tips] Ben Stein on Science
Hi, This person is (to some extent) an well-paid entertainer, as popular with right wing folks as Al Franken (who can also be quite tiresome) is with liberals. I wonder if money clouds people's judgment. It would seem to me perfectly clear to most educated folk that if you introduce supernatural explanations you are no longer doing science. ID should be taught in theology and philosophy class, where such explanations don't violate the general precepts of the discipline. No one is forbidding the teaching of ID and creationism - we are simply banning it from SCIENCE. Much of the under-educated lay public doesn't get it because they don't understand what science is anyway. For Stein (and others) to fail to get it is much more puzzling to me, and suggests other agendas at work in their thinking. Nancy Melucci Long Beach City College Long Beach CA In a message dated 5/3/2008 5:16:30 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, let's not put science on a golden pedestal. Ben Stein was talking about uncontrolled, amoral, unethical, and immoral scientists who pervert their discipline in order to advance their own agenda. Cephalic indexing, the T-4 program, and various medical experiments with which we are all familiar offered in the name of science come to mind. Like anything, science can be used, misused, and abused by fallible people. To paraphrase Thomas Edison, what the minds of man create, the hearts must guide and control. Of course, in that vein, what Stein said about science can also be said about religion, for over the ages more harm has been done to man by man in the name of the Gods than in the name of anything else. Make it a good day. --Louis-- Louis Schmier http://therandomthoughts.edublogs.org/ Department of History http://www.newforums.com/Auth_L_Schmier.asp Valdosta State University Valdosta, Georgia 31698 /\ /\ /\ /\ (229-333-5947) /^\\/ \/\ /\/\/\ \/\ / \ \__ \/ / \ /\/ \ \ /\ //\/\/ /\ \_ / /___\/\ \ \ \/ \ /\If you want to climb mountains \ /\ _/\don't practice on mole hills -/ \ --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) **Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod000301) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [tips] Ben Stein on Science
In this case it's not the issue...it's a red herring. We are trying to use science to explain how life began and changes, and we kept getting side tracked by the issue of whether science provides a moral code. Explanations of life and its origins for science class. Moral codes and ethics for theology/philosophy class. The fact that science can't provide a moral code should not be used to weaken its strength as a force for explaining and predicting in the realm of the empirical. This makes perfect sense to me. Nancy M. In a message dated 5/3/2008 7:41:54 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nancy, let’s go deeper. What is science, and what and how does it provide society with a ruling or guiding moral code of ethical and legal behavior? That’s the crux of the issue, isn’t it? Enough rest. Back to getting my garden in shape before I depart in a few days for a month of teaching in China. Make it a good day. --Louis-- Louis Schmier _http://therandomthoughts.edublogs.org/_ (http://therandomthoughts.edublogs.org/) Department of History _http://www.newforums.com/Auth_L_Schmier.asp_ (http://www.newforums.com/Auth_L_Schmier.asp) Valdosta State University Valdosta, Georgia 31698 /\ /\/\ /\ (229-333-5947) /^\\/ \/\ /\/\/\ \/\ / \ \__ \/ /\ /\/ \ \ /\ //\/\/ /\ \_ / /___\/\ \ \ \/ \ /\If you want to climb mountains \ /\ _/\don't practice on mole hills -/\ --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) **Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod000301) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [tips] Ben Stein on Science
That doesn't justify using non-scientific methods in science class. Science and faith do things very differently. Stein and the brigade he is shilling for want to turn science into something it is not. I don't get your point. Scientists have done immoral things (like all other types of people, including those who call themselves good, spiritual or religious), Why does that mean that supernatural explanations should be allowed in science or science education? I am not asking that anyone in any religion support their views empirically. That's not how religion is done. Maybe I am just too stupid to get your point. I don't get your reasoning except that once more you are trying to demonstrate that you are smarter, wiser or better at thinking than I am. As always, I feel patronized and condescended to - never understood or appreciated for MY ability to reason or my viewpoint. Nancy M. In a message dated 5/3/2008 10:52:48 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ah, Nancy, take care. Were life to be that simple and so balkanized. Maybe the fact that we have so balkanized learning in our institutions and in our own minds, that we have ignored so often ignored the admonishment of Edison, a scientist, is exactly what Stein was talking about. Sure, history tells us that science has aided in increasing both the quality and longevity of life. I wouldn’t be here if it weren’t for the advances that allowed me to survive cancer and a massive cerebral hemorrahage. Science, however, also has had a hand in shortening and diminishing life. If I had been born in Bobrika instead of New York when I was, I wouldn’t be here. Uncontrolled science, like anything that is uncontrolled and carried to its extreme, is a bad that often outweighs its good. Like it or not, the likes of Mengele and those involved in the T-4 project and those engaged in the high altitude experiments and those engaged in medical experiments said justified themselves by arguing that “in the name of science” created its own moral and ethical code, and that the quest for knowledge about life justifies the means even if it means taking life. That’s what Stein is talking about. Make it a good day. --Louis-- Louis Schmier _http://therandomthoughts.edublogs.org/_ (http://therandomthoughts.edublogs.org/) Department of History _http://www.newforums.com/Auth_L_Schmier.asp_ (http://www.newforums.com/Auth_L_Schmier.asp) Valdosta State University Valdosta, Georgia 31698 /\ /\/\ /\ (229-333-5947) /^\\/ \/\ /\/\/\ \/\ / \ \__ \/ /\ /\/ \ \ /\ //\/\/ /\ \_ / /___\/\ \ \ \/ \ /\If you want to climb mountains \ /\ _/\don't practice on mole hills -/\ --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) **Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod000301) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
[tips] Loss of sense of smell
For those of you who teach sensation and perception, the 4/29 installment of this program _http://thestory.org/_ (http://thestory.org/) on NPR has an interview with a woman who temporarily lost her sense of smell after a car accident. There is a link to her blog also (Molly Birnbaum). Nancy Melucci Long Beach City College Long Beach CA **Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp0030002851) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [tips] .05 and .01
It's just a way for him to insult and disrespect/patronize us. I am so sick of his reverse-racist nonsense. Wasn't there a farewell that was issued? When is he going to follow through on that and go away? He adds nothing to this list and brings us all down. Not being nice - Nancy Melucci Long Beach City College Long Beach CA In a message dated 4/25/2008 4:52:11 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: PLEASE provide me with information about why you think this is a Eurocentric concept Michael. On Apr 25, 2008, at 12:13 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what is the rationale for the .05 and .01 level of signifance as acceptable? who came up with this Eurocentric concept anyway? And how about single-case studies? Michael Sylvester,PhD Daytona Beach,Florida --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Steven M. Specht, Ph.D. Associate Professor of Psychology Utica College Utica, NY 13502 (315) 792-3171 Mice may be called large or small, and so may elephants, and it is quite understandable when someone says it was a large mouse that ran up the trunk of a small elephant (S. S. Stevens, 1958) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) **Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp0030002851) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [tips] Split-Brain question
Joe, a patient of Dr. Gazzaniga who appears in a couple of videos, does not have any problems with these things. Transcript - the Man with Two Brains _http://www.pbs.org/saf/transcripts/transcript703.htm_ (http://www.pbs.org/saf/transcripts/transcript703.htm) NJM In a message dated 4/13/2008 11:21:54 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A student question: Do people who have had split-brain surgery have trouble with tasks such as driving a car? What about their employment? I know they are paid for their participation in research. Do they have higher degrees or complex types of jobs? Thanks Susan J. Shapiro Associate Professor/Psychology Indiana University East 2325 Chester Blvd. Richmond, IN 47374 (765) 973-8284 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) **It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolcmp0030002850) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [tips] Russian women/set point theory
As if there was something more accurate - and virtuous about stereotyping all of Russia. It's like a tiny little homogenous town, right? Not a big, diverse country like the former Soviet Union. The Soviet Union was NOT that long ago - an eye blink in the long history of humanity. It's absolutely simple minded to say that ALL people of either sex anywhere are thin - except maybe in countries where actual starvation is going on. Sadly common that one too. Plenty of chubby women (and men) in Russia AND America and many other relatively affluent countries across the globe. Ludicrous nonsense, Michael. But that's just what we've come to expect pretty much every time we see your address in our in-boxes. Nancy M. Long Beach City College In a message dated 4/13/2008 4:31:37 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: - Original Message - From: _Raymond Rogoway_ (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) To: _Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)_ (mailto:tips@acsun.frostburg.edu) Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 6:39 PM Subject: Re: [tips] Russian women/set point theory I have been to the Soviet Union many, many times and what you report is total bunk. Further, you are stereotyping an entire population of people based upon a very, very limited observation and hearsay. Raymond Rogoway [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) I was talking about Russia not the Soviet Union. You are reminding me of McCain who could not distinguish between Shiite and Sunni. How long ago was the Soviet Union? Michael Sylvester,PhD Daytona Beach,Florida --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) **It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolcmp0030002850) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [tips] Violence video games
Hi, I also wonder about the role that the prospect of fame plays in facilitating these crimes. A media orgy follows ever single mass shooting. Those with tendencies and enough anger may be inspired. It's vicarious reinforcement. I wish there were a way to temper our free press with a modicum of responsibility. Perhaps it's part of the price we pay and we can't have it both ways. Nancy Melucci Long Beach City College **Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv000316) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [tips] Politician's Wives female sexuality
Hi, I dunno about the Bussian Hypothesis. Sometimes I wonder if guys believe it because it is comforting to them and not because it is true. OK the following is based, admittedly on casual observation NOT rigorous scientific inquiry. On the other hand, keep in mind that most evolutionary psychological hypotheses are also contructed by hindsight and not on experimental controlled investigation. 1) I myself would not differentiate between my partner's sexual and emotional infidelity. I would be equally outraged. I've already been there and done that. 2) My best friend and I both know lots of women and lots of men. Overall, the women we know have had many more sexual partners than the males (because they tell us we are women after all). 3) I never fail to get a knowing laugh with the following joke in my Human Sexuality classes Ask a man and then ask a woman How many sex partners have you had? For the most accurate response - divide the man's answer by 2, and multiply the woman's by 3. Women may simply have learned to be better at hiding it because of the stakes - as mentioned in a previous poster's response - men are more likely to react with violence. Women cry and look dispirited (like Silda). Nancy Melucci Long Beach City College Long Beach CA **It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf000301) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [tips] Politician's Wives
Hi An opinion - In general and historically I think that women are aware of the greater expectation that they will put up with sexual infidelity more readily than men will...and there is probably some resentment of that double standard. Just a guess based on casual observation, not a scientific conclusion. I think that as women are less economically dependent on men (as a group or on average) than they were 50 years ago, to whatever degree it might have been true that women are more likely to put up with it than men are, it is less true now. Many women can and do walk when this happens. Since Silda Spitzer has a lot of professional skill and experience it may be that women who can identify with her are frustrated that she has not yet left (not that I would be at all shocked if she does in the near future). Or maybe they are concerned that she is doing what many perceived Hillary C. to have done - staying with a philandering husband in order to gain political ground. Trading off marital satisfaction for political gain...ignoring the possibility that fidelity might not be that important to her for whatever hidden (none of our business) reason she might have. Nancy Melucci Long Beach City College Long Beach CA **It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf000301) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [tips] Harris 1995 [Was Nurture assumption]
Hi, Another thing that doesn't get mentioned is that it's not parents VERSUS peers (any more than it's nature versus nurture). Since who the parents are (SES and other socio-cultural factors) as well as decisions that they make (like where we go to school) influence the type of peers to whom children are exposed. It's not either-or - it's a very complicated mix. Nancy Melucci Long Beach City College Long Beach CA **It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf000301) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [tips] Sleep question
Stage 4 for normal sleep walking in children and adolescents. Sleep walking is not normal at any stage for adults and is usually related to polydrugging, sleep deprivation and using Ambien - off label and sometimes according to directions. We cycle 1 2 3 4 3 2 REM 2 3 4 3 REM 2 3 2 REM 2 REM 2 REM 2 until the end of the night...REM replaces stage 1 which only occurs at the beginning of sleep. Nancy Melucci LBCC L B C -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) tips@acsun.frostburg.edu Sent: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 3:16 pm Subject: [tips] Sleep question I had a student who asked me when in the sleep cycle people are most likely to sleep walk. Also, here is a question I am fuzzy on despite reading everything I could find: We start with stage 1, go to 2, 3, 4, 5(REM) and then what happens? Do we ease back up backwards, 4,3,2,1 or do we go from 5 to 1 and start over again? I can't find a definitive answer--most of the intro books just have the cyclic chart that doesn't help define that. Annette Annette Kujawski Taylor, Ph.D. Professor of Psychology University of San Diego 5998 Alcala Park San Diego, CA 92110 619-260-4006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [tips] Unwanted student attention
Yes I am leaning toward a modified version of the response Linda suggested with some of the points you are making in mind.It's important for me to both weigh in my feelings AND not overreact - some stalking-like behaviors are stalking and some are more like over enthusiasm/social naivete. Thanks. NJM -Original Message- From: Tollefsrud, Linda [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) tips@acsun.frostburg.edu Sent: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 7:13 am Subject: RE: [tips] Unwanted student attention Hi, Nancy My advice would be a bit different from what I see so far. I would NOT simply fail to respond, for two reasons. One, we are educators and this is an individual who needs educating (in terms of social skills). I think it would help if you would clarify for her what you meant by keep in touch and the # of contacts you find desirable/acceptable. For instance, one email per semester, would be perfectly appropriate, right? Second, in the legal sense, since you clearly find this worrisome and it might be construed as harassment/stalking, it is your responsibility to clearly say Stop. This is inappropriate. Hopefully, it will not escalate to that point, but you need to take this action in case it does. Linda Tollefsrud Professor of Psychology University of Wisconsin - Barron County 1800 College Drive Rice Lake, WI 54868 (715) 234-8176 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: DeVolder Carol L [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 10:34 PM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: RE: [tips] Unwanted student attention Nancy, I agree with Beth. I don't think you did anything wrong--if you did then I'm guilty of similar behavior. It may take her a while to get the idea, and she may never really get it, but if you don't respond (not even a single word like thanks), she will eventually go away. Carol Carol L. DeVolder, Ph.D. Professor of Psychology Chair, Department of Psychology St. Ambrose University 518 West Locust Street Davenport, Iowa 52803 Phone: 563-333-6482 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: http://web.sau.edu/psychology/psychfaculty/cdevolder.htm The contents of this message are confidential and may not be shared with anyone without permission of the sender. -Original Message- From: beth benoit [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri 2/29/2008 9:09 PM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: RE: [tips] Unwanted student attention Nancy, I'd suggest: Don't respond AT ALL about ANYTHING, EVER again. Sometimes these extra-needy students are just looking for ANY kind of response. Beth Benoit From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 9:46 PM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: Re: [tips] Unwanted student attention Hi - I think I need help. I don't want to do anything to make this worse. Maybe I'll join the bad day club if I manage to do that. I had a very enthusiastic and dedicated female student, close to my age, in my Fall 2007 Intro Psych class at Long Beach City. At the end of the term she thanked me (profuselly) and gave me book as a gift (from my Amazon.com wish list). As the book is not an atypical sort of gift from a student, I accepted it graciously. Told her it was a pleasure to work with her and stay in touch (something I say to many students). Since then (late December) she has managed to email me at least 4 or 5 times a week about something (usually a book or show she thinks I should see). I respond politely - and tersely -to most of her emails. But it has escalated into her sending me an invitation to bet on the Oscars with her for a cup of coffee, and most recently an invitation to a concert on a Saturday night and also an invitation to be on her Amazon.com Friends list I am now REALLY uncomfortable. I don't want to do ANYTHING else to respond as I don't feel that I encouraged this and it is bordering on creepy - please, please, give me a reality check if I am wrong about this. I don't want to hang out with her or even feel bullied into being involved in a personal friends list at a commerical site. If anyone has ANY suggestions how I can discourage this in a polite and professional way, I would welcome them. I know that perhaps nothing I do that indicates reticience will stop her from being angry/hurt. Again, I don't think did anything to indicate that I'd be her friend Thanks and if I did anything stupid here...I'll take that kind of feedback off list. Nancy Melucci Long Beach City College Long Beach CA -Original Message- From: Shearon, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) tips@acsun.frostburg.edu Sent: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 11:52 am Subject: RE: [tips] this world is getting crazy - update Bill- That's despicable!! I don't suppose they saved the envelope? If there wasn't one, that's worse! I think this kind of anonymous and cowardly act on a
Re: [tips] Unwanted student attention
I wasn't going to show anything to anyone at this time, just write back in a calm tone the next time she writes along the lines that Linda and others have suggested, clarifying the boundaries of the relationship. If the response is hostile or otherwise disturbing, I'll take it from there (after consulting with you all of course). Nancy -Original Message- From: Raymond Rogoway [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) tips@acsun.frostburg.edu Sent: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 8:41 am Subject: Re: [tips] Unwanted student attention There is no such legal principle as teacher-student privilege. And while we usually treat sensitive information that a student has shared with us confidential, in this case keeping the correspondence private and not informing some administrator puts one in a very vulnerable position. At the worst (and highly unlikely) it could be construed as an indication that the attention was not unwanted. At best it prevents any administrative support should this student make an accusation of improper conduct on one's part.? ? R. Rogoway? [EMAIL PROTECTED] ? On Mar 1, 2008, at 7:25 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:? ? ? ? --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:? ? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]? To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) tips@acsun.frostburg.edu ? Subject: RE: [tips] Unwanted student attention? Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 07:12:06 -0800 (PST)? ? I would also tell my chair and show any correspondance you've had from her, and your typical response. Print out whatever you have saved. You want something documented in case she decides to retaliate, which she might once you cut her off.? ? Annette? ? ? No,No! Correspondence or communication between you and the student should be kept private and? confidential.Do not get the chair involved in this.? ? Michael Sylvester,PhD? Daytona Beach,Florida? ? ? ? ---? To make changes to your subscription contact:? ? Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED])? ? ---? To make changes to your subscription contact:? ? Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED])? --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [tips] Unwanted student attention
Hi? - I think I need help. I don't?want to do anything to make this worse. Maybe I'll join the bad day club if I manage to do that. I had a very enthusiastic and dedicated female student, close to my age, in my Fall 2007 Intro Psych class at Long Beach City. At the end of the term she thanked me (profuselly) and gave me book as a gift (from my Amazon.com wish list). As the book is not an atypical sort of gift from a student, I accepted it graciously. Told her it was a pleasure to work with her and stay in touch (something I say to many students). Since then (late December) she has managed to email me at least 4 or 5 times a week about something (usually a?book or show she thinks I should see). I respond politely - and tersely -to most of her emails. But it has escalated into her sending me an invitation to bet on the Oscars with her for a cup of?coffee, and most recently an invitation to a concert on a Saturday night and also an invitation to be on her Amazon.com Friends list I am now REALLY uncomfortable. I don't want to do ANYTHING else to respond as I don't feel that I encouraged this and it is bordering on creepy - please, please, give me a reality check if I am wrong about this. I don't want to hang out with her or even feel bullied into being involved in a personal friends list at a commerical site. If anyone has ANY suggestions how I can discourage this in a polite and professional way, I would welcome them. I know that perhaps nothing I do that indicates reticience will stop her from being angry/hurt. Again, I don't think?did anything to indicate that I'd be her friend Thanks and if I did anything stupid here...I'll take that kind of?feedback off list. Nancy Melucci Long Beach City College Long Beach CA -Original Message- From: Shearon, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) tips@acsun.frostburg.edu Sent: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 11:52 am Subject: RE: [tips] this world is getting crazy - update Bill- That's despicable!! I don't suppose they saved the envelope? If there wasn't one, that's worse! I think this kind of anonymous and cowardly act on a college campus is worse than cheating. In such instances the dean/VP should immediately attempt to identify the cretin(s) and ask for explanation (purely hypothetically, with a large pointy stick; I'd never suggest such a thing in reality). At any rate, I am very happy that you are back!! Tim (the parenthetical remarks above were not made for reasons other than sarcasm toward anyone lurking who might read them and not realize that you, agency or otherwise, are also, purely hypothetically, engaging in a form of harassment/terrorism- am I safe now?) ___ Timothy O. Shearon, PhD Professor and Chair Department of Psychology The College of Idaho Caldwell, ID 83605 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] teaching: intro to neuropsychology; psychopharmacology; general; history and systems What we have done for ourselves alone dies with us; what we have done for others and the world remains and is immortal. - Albert Pike -Original Message- From: William Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri 2/29/2008 12:19 PM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: RE: [tips] this world is getting crazy - update It was an anonymous letter from someone who signed it a friend of higher education and it sent a copy of my posting and accused me of making terrorist threats. I saw the letter. --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [tips] Doubt about antidepressants
Hi, I am having such strong feelings about this right now (yes - get the pill script stat!) I don't doubt that for some people the results are life-saving. For a small number only though - I believe we have gone overboard - not just with finding new things to medicate (limerence as I mentioned a couple of weeks ago), but treating all kinds of ordinary sadness and normal healthy grief as needing to be medicated. In the past two weeks I have encountered 3 people who have reported that family doctors offer them anti-depressants for events that most of use would judge to be those to which a reaction of sadness would be healthy and appropriate - the waitress at my local sushi bar, just last night, who reported that 2 weeks after her dad died from cancer her family doctor was offering her Prozac. The corporate profit factor has to be a part of thismost of us adjust in the long run to blue period and normal grieving if we are just allowed to do so. This is probably what all that placebo responding is about...But there is a fortune to be made by drugging the life out of us - literally. Nancy Melucci Long Beach City College Long Beach CA. -Original Message- From: Horton, Joseph J. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) tips@acsun.frostburg.edu Sent: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 3:25 pm Subject: [tips] Doubt about antidepressants The Financial Times has an article questioning the efficacy of anti-depressants. http://tinyurl.com/338mhz From the article: Almost 50 clinical trials were reviewed by psychologists from the University of Hull who found that new-generation anti-depressants worked no better than a placebo – a dummy pill – for mildly depressed patients. “They do not always suit everybody but the results are often life-saving. People who do studies do not have the hands-on experience of using these medicines.” Joe Joseph J. Horton Ph. D. Box 3077 Grove City College Grove City, PA 16127 724-458-2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] In God we trust. All others must bring data. --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [tips] Psychological theories that are well known but useless and vice ve...
Hi, It would help if everyone would specify into which basket they were putting their theories. Groupthink has come up in discussions of how we ended up in Iraq, and the SPS in the sentencing of the guards from Abu Ghraib (sp?)...but my impression that they are well known could be based on the circles in which I travel. Nancy In a message dated 2/17/2008 3:40:18 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nancy, I assumed Gary wanted to put Groupthink and the Zimbardo prison studies in the useful but not well known category. Gary - what were you thinking here? Michael Michael Britt www.thepsychfiles.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) On Feb 16, 2008, at 10:55 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Groupthink and the Zimbardo prison study come most readily to mind. Gary OK...are these useless? Because they are well knownbut I would beg to differ about their uselessness, especially since we've seen the dynamics illustrated by both at work in government and foreign policy decisions over the past 10 years or so. Nancy Melucci Long Beach City College Long Beach CA Delicious ideas to please the pickiest eaters. _Watch the video on AOL Living._ (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/2050827?NCID=aolcmp0030002598) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) ) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) **Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp0030002598) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
[tips] Ramachandran video
Hi all, One of my online students shared this video clip with me, and I thought I'd pass it on in case any of you can use it. Nancy Melucci Long Beach City College Long Beach CA **The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy Awards. Go to AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp0030002565) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re:[tips] I'm an idiot
_http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/id/184_ (http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/id/184) D'oh Homer Melucci **The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy Awards. Go to AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp0030002565) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [tips] Psychological theories that are well known but useless and vice ve...
Groupthink and the Zimbardo prison study come most readily to mind. Gary OK...are these useless? Because they are well knownbut I would beg to differ about their uselessness, especially since we've seen the dynamics illustrated by both at work in government and foreign policy decisions over the past 10 years or so. Nancy Melucci Long Beach City College Long Beach CA **Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp0030002598) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [tips] Audio online accommodations for a visually disabled student
She probably does, but I thought I could also supply some additional materials for her. Thanks. NJM In a message dated 2/10/2008 9:36:33 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Nancy Firstly, does the student not use a screen reader? As then most websites become available in audio! Secondly, there are a bunch of different psych related websites featuring podcasts or audio files, including: http://www.thepsychfiles.com/ http://www.yorku.ca/christo/podcasts/ http://feeds.feedburner.com/psypresspodcast http://www.abc.net.au/rn/allinthemind/ http://lhsappsych.blogspot.com/ http://drbeckham.com/index.php Hope some of these are useful to you! cheers Lucy Subject: Audio online accommodations for a visually disabled student From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 13:57:27 EST X-Message-Number: 5 Hello again, This time I email not to whine but to ask for help. I have a student with a visual impairment in one of my online introductory psychology classes - I was wondering if any of you could recommend educational web sites relevant to intro psych that have audio features or enhancements. Any help you can all give me would be most appreciated. Nancy Melucci Long Beach City College Long Beach CA Dr Lucy Zinkiewicz Lecturer + School of Psychology, Deakin University Waterfront, Geelong VIC 3217, Australia. ( Phone: 03 5227 8497 International: +61 3 5227 8497 ( Fax: 03 5227 8621 International: +61 3 9244 8621 : E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Website: http://www.deakin.edu.au Deakin University CRICOS Provider Code 00113B Important Notice: The contents of this email transmission, including any attachments, are intended solely for the named addressee and are confidential; any unauthorised use, reproduction or storage of the contents and any attachments is expressly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please delete it and any attachments from your system immediately and advise the sender by return email or telephone. Deakin University does not warrant that this email and any attachments are error or virus free. --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
[tips] Audio online accommodations for a visually disabled student
Hello again, This time I email not to whine but to ask for help. I have a student with a visual impairment in one of my online introductory psychology classes - I was wondering if any of you could recommend educational web sites relevant to intro psych that have audio features or enhancements. Any help you can all give me would be most appreciated. Nancy Melucci Long Beach City College Long Beach CA **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
[tips] I think Szasz is right
Hello, Folks, please read this, and then tell me: Doesn't this really begin to look like the role of mental health professionals/treatment is morphing from diagnosing-treating-preventing pathology into diagnosing-treating-preventing us from being human? I've been troubled by more than one student telling me they were put on anti-depressants after a romantic break ups or similar serious personal loss. I am now convinced that the pharmaceutical juggernaut is going to run the show...run us into the ground...by turning almost every normal human experience that involves strong emotion into some kind of a disease. It's not a DISEASE to have feelings. This sucks. It's just plain wrong. Nancy Melucci Long Beach City College Long Beach CA PS. Helen Fisher should be slapped for having anything to do with this nonsense. By SHARON JAYSON, USA TODAY Posted: 2008-02-08 14:34:21 Are you crazy in love or just plain crazy? It all depends on whether new research into a condition called limerence leads to the creation of a new psychiatric diagnosis. It's that first stage of attraction where there's that bliss and euphoria and the newness of love, says Brenda Schaeffer, a psychologist from Minneapolis. That's the upside. But there is a dark side, too. It is obsessive-compulsive when you're feeling it. It's the center of your life, says Arthur Aron, a psychology professor at State University of New York-Stony Brook. Is it a mental illness? People are crazy when they're in love. It's extremely common to be intensely in love, but it's temporary. Two psychology researchers will be in Las Vegas today to present new work on limerence to the American Association of Behavioral and Social Sciences. One is Albert Wakin, an assistant psychology professor at Sacred Heart University in Fairfield, Conn. He was a colleague of the late psychologist Dorothy Tennov, who used the term in her 1979 book, Love and Limerence: The Experience of Being in Love. Wakin knew Tennov at the University of Bridgeport but didn't assist in her research. Over the past year, however, he and graduate student Duyen Vo of Southern Connecticut State University in New Haven have begun screening for limerence, which they liken to obsessive-compulsive disorders and addiction behavior. It's difficult to tell in the first few months of a relationship whether they're developing a healthy love relationship or an unhealthy limerent relationship, Wakin says. In a love relationship, the feelings give way to a more predictable relationship and it feels good. In a limerent relationship, those longings tend to intensify. Over time, it doesn't feel good. _Helen Fisher_ (http://chemistry.personals.aol.com/drhelenfisher?ncid=AOLCOMMlovenavicsnv0029) , a research professor at New Jersey's Rutgers University who studies romantic love, says limerence is romantic love, with all its feelings and behaviors. They are associating the negative aspects of it with the term, and that can be a disorder, she says. Bottom of Form Of about 200 who have agreed to participate in the study, the researchers suspect 50 or 60 have at one time experienced a limerent relationship. Some have had a series of such relationships, and others have had none. For many of those who do, it's a one-time experience. What we have found is that the limerent person is capable of having healthy love relationships with other people, but for some reason, with this particular person, a limerent relationship develops, Wakin says. Limerence subsides if the love is returned, but the researchers say for unrequited love, their advice is to cut off contact and hope that time will lessen its disruptive effects. They say it's premature to ask that limerence be classified in the American Psychiatric Association's handbook of mental disorders because much more research is needed. The next publication is in 2012. But, Wakin says, if our research continues to go in the direction it has been going and that we expect it will go, ultimately what we want to move toward is diagnosis, prognosis and treatment. © Copyright 2008 USA TODAY, a division of Gannett Co. Inc. All Rights Reserved. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
[tips] Help from a human sexuality instructor
Hi, My winter term human sexuality class begins today and I cannot find my CD ROM with powerpoint slides on it. I need the anatomical slides for male and female reproductive systems/genitalia for my lecture - QA session next week and was wondering if anyone on the list had PPTs of those slides that they could upload to me. I would be grateful for your assistance in this matter. Hope everyone had a great break and will have a wonderful 2008. Nancy Melucci Long Beach City College Long Beach CA [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) **See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
[tips] An scandalous admission from a professor
Hello everyone, I know I am about to draw a ton of finger-wagging here. But I have to say it as a holiday present to myself. I hate office hours! Perhaps it's the 2 year college environment. Community college students tend to come to school, take their classes and go to work or home. Colleagues are actually not much different - even full time ones. During the entire term I see 3 students (that is not per week, that is over the term) during my 5 weekly hours sitting in an uncomfortable, distracting environment where I cannot get any work done at all. It's a frustrating waste of time If I go home to work and am on the internet and computer I can get a half-dozen emails or IMs from students, answer them quickly so students feel attended to and I can get valuable work done. It's a win-win. If a student tells me after class he or she is coming to my office, I'll be there. But I hate having to sit endlessly in the office like a prisoner for no apparent good reason. From my perspective I am much more effective and productive working from home and put in more valuable office hours by email and IM than as a prisoner in my office. This makes me a bad, bad professor I know. But it's my story and I am sticking to it. Voting for electronic office hours and in person by appointment only... Nancy Melucci School unnamed to protect the not innocent. CA **See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) ---
[tips] Oops
My other scandalous admission is that I have no grasp of English grammar at all. An scandalous It's definitely time for a holiday break. Preferably one involving lots of sleep. Nancy Melucci **See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) ---
Re: [tips] Am I expecting too much?
Admittedly I have been paying intermittent attention to this discussion. And I always have a reflexive?and negative?reaction to young people today are so different (by implication not as good) than we were) a complaint that to my knowledge can be found consistently in written history right back to the Greeks and Babylonians. I am wondering if we are comparing our students to the younger version of ourselves not to a younger version of the universe of people with whom we grew up. Sure I read a lot as a child and teen. And in that way I was very DIFFERENT than most of my peers. And I suspect that we all as kids were very different from our peers - thus we landed in careers as academics, researchers and scholars - while they went on to a vast universe of other work in which having a history as a good reader was not so crucial. Also, there were (and are) many ways in which I was and AM the same as my students. The us-versus-them thing, especially around issues of age, just fogs our ability to see how much similarity there is and have understanding or empathy for them (when appropriate). Where applicable, enjoy the holiday. Nancy Melucci Long Beach City College Long Beach CA -Original Message- From: Pollak, Edward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) tips@acsun.frostburg.edu Sent: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 7:42 am Subject: RE: [tips] Am I expecting too much? ?Louis Schmier wrote, I think some of us are being too harsh.? We aren't very understanding of our very young students.? We're not walking in their shoes or remembering how we were like at those ages. I remember how I was at those ages. I'd been books for pleasure for many years. As for being too harsh, that assumes that I believe in free will and want blame students (or whoever) ?for not using their free will well. But as an orthodox probabilistic determinist (if there is such a thing) I don't blame anyone. There?is a plethora of reasons as to why children don't learn to read for pleasure (or even watch the History other educational TV channels). We could make a long list. But the fact is that they don't read for pleasure and common words, famous events, etc. are often unknown to them. You can say it with contempt, anger, pity, concern, are any combination thereof. But it dopesn't change the fact that they're woefully unprepared in areas of general knowledge. ? Ed ? Edward I. Pollak, Ph.D. Department of Psychology West Chester University of Pennsylvania http://mywebpages.comcast.net/epollak/home.htm Husband, father, grandfather, biopsychologist, bluegrass fiddler and herpetoculturist.. in approximate order of importance. --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com ---
Re: [tips] Talking back to Prozac
Hi As I meet more students who tell me that they were put on anti-depressants for being sad after breaking up with a boy or girlfriend, and I read more about people being medicated for sadness and stress after loved ones are injured or become sick (i.e the Iraq War correspondent Woodruff's wife after he had a TBI from an injury sustained in Iraq), I am becoming thoroughly convinced that many societal forces are joining together to pathologize any type of negative emotion. There is no such thing as pathological grieving now - all grief and sadness is pathological. It's gone from the pursuit of happiness, to a right to happiness to be happy or ELSE. I think it is our culture's illness, not ours. Nancy Melucci Long Beach City College Long Beach CA -Original Message- From: Dennis Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) tips@acsun.frostburg.edu Sent: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 7:23 am Subject: [tips] Talking back to Prozac Many of you will shake your heads (some with nods of agreement others in aggravation) at this article by Fredrick Crews from The New York Review of Books. In the article he reviews three books, and takes on “Big Pharma” and the DSM. http://www.nybooks.com/articles/20851 I am thinking about asking my students to read and comment on the article. To whet your appetites “Those stigmata, furthermore, are presented in a user-friendly checklist form that awards equal value to each symptom within a disorder's entry. In Bingo style, for example, a patient who fits five out of the nine listed criteria for depression is tagged with the disorder. It is little wonder, then, that drug makers' advertisements now urge consumers to spot their own defectiveness through reprinted DSM checklists and then to demand correction via the designated pills.” Looking forward to some time to read some fiction later this week! Dennis Dennis M. Goff Chair, Department of Psychology Professor of Psychology Randolph College (Founded as Randolph-Macon Woman's College in 1891) Lynchburg VA 24503 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com ---
Re: [SPAM] - [tips] Humans go into heat after all, strip club study finds - B...
Hey, I have a couple of question about this: How good an analog is tipping a lap dancer to female initiated sexual contact? Isn't this still very different from animals that ONLY have sex during estrus? Humans estrus or no, still have sex during all phases of the female cycle. Most other animals do not. Nancy Melucci Long Beach City College Long Beach CA ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ---
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Hello everyone - Here we go again. Weeks of having to explain why a psychiatrist's case study is NOT convincing evidence of anything except talented role playing for big rewards of attention. http://www.newsweek.com/id/57343 Sigh. Nancy Melucci Long Beach City College et al. Long Beach CA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) tips@acsun.frostburg.edu Sent: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 2:39 pm Subject: Re: [tips] Annette Taylor--related to fires, not teaching Thanks Michael. I'm personally still fairly safe. I live near Qualcomm stadium which is the newest evacuation center that they are evacuating people to, from the previous evacuation centers, which are now threatened. My school is near the ocean and also near the stadium and I think most experts think that this is a safe corridor. We thought the fires in 2003 were the mothers of all fires but that was a campfire by comparison. Every which side of town is on fire with 0% containment. There are 8 distinct fires and as far as I can tell from the news reports most are natural occurrences (not arson): a car that bit a bump in the road and bottomed out and created some sparks, an electrical junction that sparked, etc. We have had a drought for over 5 years and strong winds right now--gusting to 80 mph. We (my family) recently moved (January) to a condo in town (Mission Valley) from a big house in Rancho Bernardo--a northern neighborhood within the city of San Diego. There have been dozens of homes lost there. The contributing factors are: the drought, the canyon nature of the landscape (fires move down canyons at incredible speed because of wind) and, of course, the Santa Ana winds. They are predicted to swirl back and forth until Thursday :( There is nothing predictable about this--areas where homes have burned are being told to remain evacuated as fires are heading back to get the occasional remaining homes. We have an evacuated family staying with us. Folks in LA are also having fires but San Diego clearly has the largest fire. The governator is here and has indicated we are going to get the most aid but it's hard because almost all the state's fire resources are currently being used in local fires throughout the so cal area. No classes today, tomorrow and until ??? probably Thursday when the winds die down. This fire WILL continue until it ends at the ocean's edge. There are not enough resources to stop it until it stops itself. Resources are being diverted to places like taking a stand at the Wild Animal Park out in the San Pasqual Valley--the entire Park perimeter is surrounded from what I've heard. More information than you wanted, I'm sure. I'm too distracted by the heavy smoke all around to focus on getting a jump on work..maybe a bit of my animal ancestry to be preoccupied with heavy smoke. Annette Annette Kujawski Taylor, Ph.D. Professor of Psychology University of San Diego 5998 Alcala Park San Diego, CA 92110 619-260-4006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Original message Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 15:42:50 -0400 From: Michael Sylvester [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [tips] Annette Taylor To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) tips@acsun.frostburg.edu Hope Annette is ok.She must be surrounded by a ring of fire down there in San Diego.I am sure that other tipsters join me in wishing her safety. Hope she is able to let us know about her situation. You go girl. Michael Sylvester,PhD Daytona Beach,Florida --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) --- Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com ---
