[twitter-dev] Saas Provider for User Stream

2011-08-01 Thread DaveH
I am wondering if there are any companies that are providing access to
user streams as SaaS. I am looking for a service that will allow me to
setup filters specifically I only want DMs and I would want the
service to call my application via a callback URL when a DM is
received.

I have spent the day looking for a solution provider that provides
this and I have not found any--but I am sure there must be several
already out there.

Any suggestions?

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[twitter-dev] Application not getting R/W/DM access

2011-07-04 Thread DaveH
Twitter Team:

My application was changed weeks ago to request DM permission. My
understanding was all we needed to do was edit the settings for the
app, and then re-authenticate the application. Which I did. When I
look at the app settings it shows that Read, Write, Direct Messages
is selected.

However, when I go to authorize the application, I see that my
application will not not be able to access DMs.

This is a white listed app that needs access to DMs to work. From what
I can tell, it should be able to authenticate and get DM access as the
application is registered as needed DM level.

So why is it not being allowed the correct access level?

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[twitter-dev] Re: Application not getting R/W/DM access

2011-07-04 Thread DaveH
Tom:

App does not use xAuth and calls /oauth/authorize--in fact has always
done so.

Not sure why Twitter is only granting R/W access.

Dave

On Jul 4, 4:21 pm, Tom van der Woerdt i...@tvdw.eu wrote:
 1) Don't use xAuth
 2) Don't use /oauth/authenticate but /oauth/authorize

 Tom

 On 7/5/11 1:20 AM, DaveH wrote:







  Twitter Team:

  My application was changed weeks ago to request DM permission. My
  understanding was all we needed to do was edit the settings for the
  app, and then re-authenticate the application. Which I did. When I
  look at the app settings it shows that Read, Write, Direct Messages
  is selected.

  However, when I go to authorize the application, I see that my
  application will not not be able to access DMs.

  This is a white listed app that needs access to DMs to work. From what
  I can tell, it should be able to authenticate and get DM access as the
  application is registered as needed DM level.

  So why is it not being allowed the correct access level?

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[twitter-dev] Re: Application not getting R/W/DM access

2011-07-04 Thread DaveH
Tom, you were right. I thought the app was making the right call to
authorize, but it was somehow making a call to authenticate. All is
working once again!

THANK-YOU!!! :-)

On Jul 4, 4:21 pm, Tom van der Woerdt i...@tvdw.eu wrote:
 1) Don't use xAuth
 2) Don't use /oauth/authenticate but /oauth/authorize

 Tom

 On 7/5/11 1:20 AM, DaveH wrote:







  Twitter Team:

  My application was changed weeks ago to request DM permission. My
  understanding was all we needed to do was edit the settings for the
  app, and then re-authenticate the application. Which I did. When I
  look at the app settings it shows that Read, Write, Direct Messages
  is selected.

  However, when I go to authorize the application, I see that my
  application will not not be able to access DMs.

  This is a white listed app that needs access to DMs to work. From what
  I can tell, it should be able to authenticate and get DM access as the
  application is registered as needed DM level.

  So why is it not being allowed the correct access level?

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[twitter-dev] Re: Update on Whitelisting

2011-02-12 Thread DaveH
I disagree, Abraham. I requested whitelisting for my app because I
needed more than 250 DMs per day. Twitter granted my request and my
limit was increased considerably.

This may be that Twitter did not increase DMs as a default. But at one
time, if requested and justified, they would. This is why the
questions are being asked about DM limit changes going forward.

On Feb 11, 10:12 pm, Abraham Williams 4bra...@gmail.com wrote:
 Whitelisting never impacted DM limits or Search API limits. Niether of those
 are affected by @rsarver's announcement.

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 On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 12:04, whitmer brian.whit...@gmail.com wrote:
  I'd also like to know the fate of DMing.

  On Feb 10, 7:07 pm, Trevor Dean trevord...@gmail.com wrote:
   Hey Taylor, what does this mean for DM limits and what’s the new path
  towards getting those limit increased for new accounts?

   Trevor Dean | Director
   big time design  communication Inc.
   647 234 8198

   Visithttp://www.bigtimedesign.caformore information

   On 2011-02-10, at 8:48 PM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky 
  zn...@borasky-research.net wrote:

On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 17:40:03 -0800, Matt Harris 
  thematthar...@twitter.com wrote:
Hi Ian,

For trends you might like to try our trends.api.twitter.com [1]
server which hosts a cached copy of the trends information and is
updated whenever the trends change. It should support your use case
and we would be interested in any feedback you may have about it's
performance.

Nice! I was just about to try building something very much like twendr,
  but I can either use twendr or go right to your new server. Is this on a
  five-minute cycle like the main Trending Topics feed? Will we ever get to
  see the Promoted fields populated without spending money? ;-)

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[twitter-dev] Re: DM rate limit

2011-02-12 Thread DaveH
Dossy:

Don't be so quick to condemn. I have an app that uses DMs and ALL DM
traffic is generated by users and they know it--so there is no
spamming. There are legitimate uses of DMs that users are OK with that
push an app beyond 250/day.

Think of it this way, if an application has 300 followers and they all
interact via private message (DM) one time per day, then 50 users will
be unable to communicate on any given day.


On Feb 12, 11:46 am, Dossy Shiobara do...@panoptic.com wrote:
 Any one Twitter account that sends 250 DM's in a 24 hour period is
 DOIN' IT RONG.

 DM spamming your followers is JUST NOT OK.

 On 2/12/11 2:31 PM, Trevor Dean wrote:

  Just out of curiosity why can't DM's be limited by the hour instead if 
  having this cap of 250/day?  I think if this was an option most of the 
  issues expressed by other developers including myself would be resolved.

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[twitter-dev] Re: Looks like our application is DOA...

2011-02-12 Thread DaveH
Change the message so that it can go into their activity stream
instead of a DM. It may be that you have less information, but a
@storeowner, You just received an order is better than nothing.
Granted with DM you could include more information, but at least a
generic message would suffice to have them complete the order
fulfillment.

Hope this helps give you some other ideas.

On Feb 11, 9:49 pm, pl plot.l...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've just been reading the messages on here wabout the whitelisting
 changes, rate limits, streaming API etc and can only come to the
 conclusion that the application we were just about to launch to our
 users is going to have to be cancelled.

 It's a simple application that uses DM to send notifications to users
 based on real time events - these events being a purchase from their
 hosted web store. It was only aimed a low-volume merchants, but even
 if they each only have one transaction a day (and they get more than
 that) then we would run out of the 250 message limit.

 This decision to not entertain any form of whitelisting in the future
 seems to me like it is going to impact a lot of developers. This is
 not something we can use the streaming API for as we only send
 messages, which the streaming API can not do. So we are stuck with
 REST, and therefore stuck with an enforced extremely low limit on
 messages.

 As a direct result of this, we now have to cancel the launch of this
 application. It was something that a couple of merchants had requestes
 and we had said we would look into it. Up until recently it certainly
 looked like an option we could give them, but now we are going to have
 to go to them and say that it's actually no longer possible to send
 them messages on twitter, and see if they have any other platform they
 would prefer us to us instead.

 Does anyone have any suggestions as to a way that it might be possible
 to actually launch this app - it's something that our customers
 requested, and it makes us look bad that we are going to have to say
 'sorry, not possible to send mesasges to you on your preferred
 messaging platform...'

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[twitter-dev] Re: user stream api

2011-02-11 Thread DaveH
I too am still worried about the DM limits.

If I understand the User API correctly.
- The user stream means that an unlimited number of DMs can be
received as there is no rate limit on receiving (consuming) of data.
- The application would send DMs via the REST API and therefore is
limited to sending 250 DMs per day.

For my application this is still a problem as my target is social
learning and part of that is DMs to send/receive responses to test
questions and such--things that need to be private. Conversations
between learners are tweeted.

So the design changes we need to make are:
- Consuming information (Tweets, retweets, and DMs) is done via the
user stream API
- Sending tweets and DMs is still done by the REST API.

It is going to take some time to get my head wrapped around this.
Until the announcement yesterday I was not paying attention to the
streams as they did not fit all that well with my application. Now I
see that it is important to create an application that uses both as
the app is both the consumer of users activity (DMs) and originator
(DMs and tweets).

On Feb 11, 8:31 am, Trevor Dean trevord...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks Taylor.  I posted a question to the group yesterday but it might have
 gotten lost amongst all the other posts about not whitelisting anymore.
  With our service we rely on sending DM's and we will most likely require to
 have more of our clients whitelisted.  What is will be the future of DM
 limits and going about getting those rates increased?

 Trevor.

 On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 11:11 AM, Taylor Singletary 







 taylorsinglet...@twitter.com wrote:
  Hi Trevor,

  Write operations in the Twitter API are always done via the REST API. The
  Streaming APIs are for consumption of data.

  @episod http://twitter.com/episod - Taylor Singletary - Twitter
  Developer Advocate

  On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 7:52 AM, Trevor Dean trevord...@gmail.com wrote:

  I can't seem to find any documentation that shows how to go about sending
  a DM using the new user stream api.  I have been through all of the
  documentation on dev.twitter.com.  Can someone point me in the right
  direction?

  Thanks,

  Trevor

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[twitter-dev] Re: Update on Whitelisting

2011-02-10 Thread DaveH
Yes, Do tell. I have a whitelisted app, but came to the realization
that I needed to switch to IP based so that all users of the
application would have a higher DM limit--critical as my app is a
social learning tool for mobile users. Now it looks like my project is
dead in the water. Having each person have their own account is fine,
but the 250 per day DMs is the problem.

Is there any way to increase DMs per day for accounts?

I suspect that Twitter may need to rethink this change as there are
some applications that needed the whitelisting for DMs while the
hourly limits were never a problem.

Bitting my nails and waiting for an answer

On Feb 10, 6:07 pm, Trevor Dean trevord...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hey Taylor, what does this mean for DM limits and what’s the new path towards 
 getting those limit increased for new accounts?

 Trevor Dean | Director
 big time design  communication Inc.
 647 234 8198

 Visithttp://www.bigtimedesign.cafor more information

 On 2011-02-10, at 8:48 PM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky 
 zn...@borasky-research.net wrote:







  On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 17:40:03 -0800, Matt Harris thematthar...@twitter.com 
  wrote:
  Hi Ian,

  For trends you might like to try our trends.api.twitter.com [1]
  server which hosts a cached copy of the trends information and is
  updated whenever the trends change. It should support your use case
  and we would be interested in any feedback you may have about it's
  performance.

  Nice! I was just about to try building something very much like twendr, but 
  I can either use twendr or go right to your new server. Is this on a 
  five-minute cycle like the main Trending Topics feed? Will we ever get to 
  see the Promoted fields populated without spending money? ;-)

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[twitter-dev] How to change from Application Name to IP Whitelist

2010-12-23 Thread DaveH
Is there streamlined way to request change a whitelisted application
to IP whitelisted?

As I have been pondering my application and scale I have come to
realize that I really need to use several dedicated IPs instead of
maintaining the whitelisted application name.

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[twitter-dev] Whitelisted account needing full control of multiple Twitter Accounts

2010-12-01 Thread DaveH
I understand how to request permission via the callback, but...

What I would like to do is have the application that is already
whitelisted be able to post to multiple accounts--this is to support a
scenario where each Twitter account represents a single class (think
University). In this case the Learning Management System (LMS) would
need to write student activity to the correct class--and students may
be in more than one class.

I think that if I had the application gain write permission to
accounts it would then be using the API limits for each account and
the fact that the main application is whitelisted would no longer
matter. Which defeats the value of being whitelisted.

Since many of you are far better at using the API than I, what are
your thoughts? Have I missed something obvious in the documentation?

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[twitter-dev] Re: Random 403 Denied due to update limit errors.

2010-11-02 Thread DaveH
Peter:

You mention 150/hour so I am guessing that you are not authenticating
with Twitter. This means that if there are any other applications
sharing the same IP address (shared hosting) then they are also using
the same rate limit as your app. If you authenticate you will get the
250/hour ratelimit and it will be all yours to consume.

Dave

On Nov 1, 6:06 pm, PeterElsner peter.els...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've written a small app for use with some auction software.  All this
 app does is run via cron every 2 hours and picks a random auction
 (that is open) and then posts it to my twitter page using OAuth.

 This works great, and many times it does update just fine.  However
 occasionally, I get a failed response back from Twitter stating

 403 - Request has been refused. Possible causes: denied due to update
 limits.

 Since my cron only runs every 2 hours, then I am only submitting 12
 tweets to my Twitter page in a 24 hour period...

 That's certainly less than the 150/hour or the 1000/day that is listed
 in the wiki.

 My script/app does not do any deleting, following etc... It just sends
 an update to my page with a random auction listing.   So in a 24 hour
 period, I get on average about 8 successful tweets instead of the 12 I
 should be getting.

 I'm just wondering if there is something else that the 403 could be
 representing other than update limits.  Perhaps Twitter itself is over
 loaded?  If that is the case, should it not provide a different error
 code???

 Something that says Twitter is busy right now, try again later,
 instead of the rate limit error which makes it sound like there's
 something wrong with my script/app.

 I sent an email to a...@twitter.com and the response was to come and
 ask here.

 If anyone wants to see the code, it can be downloaded 
 fromhttp://www.aggielandauctions.com/mods

 Thanks in advance,
 Peter Elsner

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[twitter-dev] Re: Random 403 Denied due to update limit errors.

2010-11-02 Thread DaveH
Yaemog:

You are right, he does say he is posting to his Twitter Page and that
he is using oAuth. My bad...

So there is something else going on.

- Check that authentication was successful. The rate limit should be
higher if he has successfully authenticated.
- Check the return message from Twitter. When I see a 403 Twitter also
sends a response that tells me why the 403 was returned.
- Make sure there is no other program using the same Twitter
Application name; the other application will draw down the rate limit.

On Nov 2, 10:00 am, yaemog Dodigo yae...@gmail.com wrote:
  You mention 150/hour so I am guessing that you are not authenticating
  with Twitter. This means that if there are any other applications
  sharing the same IP address (shared hosting) then they are also using
  the same rate limit as your app. If you authenticate you will get the
  250/hour ratelimit and it will be all yours to consume.

  Dave

 Hi Dave,

 When I read Peter's post, I thought of the same thing. However, since he is
 successfully posting, wouldn't that require to be authenticated?

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[twitter-dev] Re: Remaining hits for rate limit going down, I'm not doing anything

2010-10-21 Thread DaveH
Josh:

The obvious thing is to register you app and then authenticate with
OAuth. You will then have your very own rate limit to consume based on
the application name.

On Oct 20, 4:57 pm, Josh godatp...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yeah...I forgot about the whole shared host thing.  That really
 sucks.  My application uses all unauthenticated calls, so there's
 nothing I can do, right?  That's what I got from the rate limiting
 page.

 On Oct 20, 6:35 pm, Slate Smith sl...@slatesmith.com wrote:







  Yeah unfortunately rate limits are checked via IP AND App keys, so if  
  it's a shared server ... I don't think that you can see unless you  
  have access to the server logs [doubtful at best]

  - S.

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[twitter-dev] Re: t.co question

2010-10-21 Thread DaveH
Does anyone have an update from the Twitter team on when t.co will
make its way into messages sent via API calls?

On Oct 16, 7:01 pm, DaveH d...@idreia.com wrote:
 What are the plans to implement the automaticallyt.courl shortening
 feature via tweets that are sent in via the API?

 I am getting ready to add this ability to my application, but if
 Twitter is going to make it an automatic feature then I can save
 myself the trouble if they will have it implemented soon.

 I looked at the announcements and did not see any recent updates on
 this feature.

 Looking forward to your comments.

 Dave

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[twitter-dev] t.co question

2010-10-16 Thread DaveH
What are the plans to implement the automatically t.co url shortening
feature via tweets that are sent in via the API?

I am getting ready to add this ability to my application, but if
Twitter is going to make it an automatic feature then I can save
myself the trouble if they will have it implemented soon.

I looked at the announcements and did not see any recent updates on
this feature.

Looking forward to your comments.

Dave

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[twitter-dev] direct_messages/destroy returning 404

2010-09-22 Thread DaveH
My code is able to send and receive direct messages just fine. So when
I build the string to destroy an old direct message, I get a 404. It
does not make sense. The url that is sent to Twitter is:
https://api.twitter.com/1/direct_message/destroy/1625579645.json

The ID is the message id that is returned within the direct message,
the requesting account is the recipient of the direct message.

I am using the twitteroauth php library.

Anyone see what I am missing?

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[twitter-dev] Rate Limit Remaining makes no sense

2010-09-11 Thread DaveH
See if this chain of calls and the ratelimit remaining make any
sense...

API callReturned Ratelimit Remaining
Verify Credentials  188
Followers IDs181
Direct Messages   171

The request to verify credentials established that I have 188 calls
left. Since I have been testing this is OK, my max is 350.
The request for followers returned 1 follower and Twitter reduced the
ratelimit by 7.
The request for 10 direct messages, returned ZERO, and my ratelimit is
reduced by 10.

While I was typing this note, I did not perform any API calls. Then,
to see what happens with the calls, I execute the above sequence
again, and this is what I see.

API callReturned Ratelimit Remaining
Verify Credentials  71
Followers IDs52
Direct Messages   39

Now, I would have expected that my application would have had 171
remaining when I ran it again, not 71. It is also strange that it is
100 off. Then the difference between the other API calls is bigger
than the last time I ran to code.

It seems that the rate limit is a bit capricious. I understand that
Twitter says they will reduce based on load, but this is behavior is a
bit strange. This makes no sense to me. Anyone have an idea why the
rate limit would jump around so much?

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[twitter-dev] Using API to accept a follow request, but it does not clear pending request when tweets are protected.

2010-09-09 Thread DaveH
Here is my problem.

1. My Twitter account is set to Protect My Tweets. It is private.
2. User 1234 send a follow request to my account.
3. My application authenticates with Twitter and using the friendships/
incoming call sees that a request to follow is pending.
4. My application sends a friendships/create to follow User 1234,
response is OK (200).
5. My account shows that I am now following User 1234.
5. User 1234 still shows as pending approval.

This is not what I expected. I can accept the follow request via my
program, but I cannot clear the pending follow request and as such, am
unable to grant permission to follow my protected account via the API.

Does anyone know what I am missing? Or is this one of those things
that Twitter is still working on?

My head hearts at this point from reading the docs and trying
different things.

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[twitter-dev] Re: POST Daily limits and Direct Messages

2010-08-25 Thread DaveH
Thanks, Matt.

Since I am still in development I do not need higher limits. So there
is no concern at the moment. Once I am in production it will be an
issue. From what you say here, my recourse is to use the whitelisting
process so seek higher limits when they are needed.

Thanks for the clarification!

Dave

On Aug 24, 6:13 pm, Matt Harris thematthar...@twitter.com wrote:
 Hi Dave,

 Thanks for the reply, and i'm sorry the documentation didn't answer
 your question.

 OAuth does have a rate limit of 350 REST API requests per hour which
 applies mainly to GET requests. This API rate limit is separate to the
 limits you found on the support pages. In fact, the limits on the
 support pages are ones which apply if you use the API or not.

 The options you have are this:

 If your application requires a higher rate limit you can apply for
 whitelisting using the Whitelisting Request Form. Be aware that
 whitelisting is only available to developers and to applications in
 production though; all other requests are rejected. The link and
 details of what to expect for this can be found in the Whitelisting
 section of the Rate Limiting documentation:
  http://dev.twitter.com/pages/rate-limiting#whitelisting

 The alternative is to open a support ticket explaining your situation.
 The user support team will then be able to advise you on what options
 are available. You can open a ticket usinghttp://bit.ly/twicket

 Hope that helps,
 Matt





 On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 9:09 AM, DaveH d...@idreia.com wrote:
  Matt:

  Not sure what you want me to pick up in the documentation. I must be
  missing something.

  When I read the page on daily POST limits [http://support.twitter.com/
  forums/10711/entries/15364] I see:
  quote
  Current Twitter Limits
  The current technical limits for accounts are:

  Direct Messages: 250 per day.
  API Requests: 150 per hour.
  Updates: 1,000 per day. The daily update limit is further broken down
  into smaller limits for semi-hourly intervals. Retweets are counted as
  updates.
  Changes to Account Email: 4 per hour.
  Following (daily): Please note that this is a technical account limit
  only, and there are additional rules prohibiting aggressive following
  behavior. You can find detailed page describing following limits and
  prohibited behavior on the Follow Limits and Best Practices Page. The
  technical follow limit is 1,000 per day.
  Following (account-based): Once an account is following 2,000 other
  users, additional follow attempts are limited by account-specific
  ratios. The Follow Limits and Best Practices Page has more
  information.
  /quote

  When I read the page you pointed me to, I see that OAuth calls are 350
  per hour.

  So I am still left with the same question, when we hit the daily POST
  limit, is there a process to ask for an increase? The documentation
  says it is controlled at a user level, which implies an increase is
  possible. Yet the documentation does not explicitly say how an
  increase is requested.

  I am sure the answer is obvious, I just have been unable to find it.

  Looking forward to your reply...

  Dave

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[twitter-dev] Re: POST Daily limits and Direct Messages

2010-08-24 Thread DaveH
Matt:

Not sure what you want me to pick up in the documentation. I must be
missing something.

When I read the page on daily POST limits [http://support.twitter.com/
forums/10711/entries/15364] I see:
quote
Current Twitter Limits
The current technical limits for accounts are:

Direct Messages: 250 per day.
API Requests: 150 per hour.
Updates: 1,000 per day. The daily update limit is further broken down
into smaller limits for semi-hourly intervals. Retweets are counted as
updates.
Changes to Account Email: 4 per hour.
Following (daily): Please note that this is a technical account limit
only, and there are additional rules prohibiting aggressive following
behavior. You can find detailed page describing following limits and
prohibited behavior on the Follow Limits and Best Practices Page. The
technical follow limit is 1,000 per day.
Following (account-based): Once an account is following 2,000 other
users, additional follow attempts are limited by account-specific
ratios. The Follow Limits and Best Practices Page has more
information.
/quote

When I read the page you pointed me to, I see that OAuth calls are 350
per hour.

So I am still left with the same question, when we hit the daily POST
limit, is there a process to ask for an increase? The documentation
says it is controlled at a user level, which implies an increase is
possible. Yet the documentation does not explicitly say how an
increase is requested.

I am sure the answer is obvious, I just have been unable to find it.

Looking forward to your reply...

Dave


[twitter-dev] POST Daily limits and Direct Messages

2010-08-23 Thread DaveH
I am working on a project that will make extensive use of the direct
message feature of Twitter. However, I see that there is a daily limit
of 250 direct messages. This will become an issue once I am out of
test and begin to deploy my application. What, if any, is the process
for requesting a higher limit on direct messages?


[twitter-dev] Re: Coming soon: a solution for Open Source applications using OAuth with the Twitter API

2010-08-10 Thread DaveH
Strange that this was stated to be ready weeks ago and now we hear
nothing about the progress. Any one that is actually involved in
testing this able to weigh in and provide an update?