[libreoffice-users] Re: MySQL native connector - several databases retrieved?

2012-01-20 Thread Alex Thurgood

Le 19/01/2012 15:05, fmayo a écrit :

Hi again,


Good point. I confirm that having user access privilege restricted to one 
single database only this one is displayed in the
tables area.
This seems to be a good workaround.
Format:
V  Database name
Table 1
Table 2


If you want to be able to see all of the dbs again irrespective of the 
driver privileges, you could, instead of resetting them at mysql server 
level, try activating/deactiving the Ignore Driver Privileges option 
in the Connection  Advanced details of your ODB file (although I 
haven't tried this to see if it actually works).



Alex


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Incremental binary packages

2012-01-20 Thread Tom
Hi :)

I am still using LibreOffice 3.3.2 and i am fairly sure quite a lot of other
people are too.  It still does everything i want and more.  It still beats
MS Office 2010 by quite a long way especially on lower spec machines and
when i need to move images around smoothly in any direction.  

Even with the security issues around java i feel a LOT safer with an 'old'
LO than i ever felt with a 'new' MS Office.  
Regards from
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Re: [libreoffice-users] UNSUBSCRIBE

2012-01-20 Thread Mirosław Zalewski
On 19/01/2012 at 10:58, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 A proper official forum such as most modern projects use (Firefox, Fedora,
 Ubuntu, Mint and so on and on) would neatly avoid all sorts of recurring
 problems.  But of course we have to stick with some ancient system that
 makes the project look like something pre-Win95.  Even Arch has forums
 ffs.

I think that Tom has a point here. Mailing lists were around for really long 
time and they are pretty convenient for people who are used to them. But most 
of computer/Internet users these days are not. They like simple web interface 
of bulletin boards software (also called forums). They can't configure their 
e-mail software (even most web interfaces provide needed features) to move all 
traffic from specific source (mailing list) into separate folder. I think that 
they are just overwhelmed by whole new experience with mailing list. And this 
causes frustration...

I know there is that Nabble gateway, but it seems that there may be two 
problems with it (I don't know if any is valid, since I don't use it):

1. registered people still get mails from mailing list, although they prefer 
to check for new messages themselves on webpage.

2. It is too hidden. On page http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-
lists/ classic mailing lists are exposed, while Nabble gateway is only 
mentioned. Perhaps this page should focus on Nabble gateway, while classic 
mailing lists addresses should be only mentioned (maybe moved to another 
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while inexperienced users would not be bothered by whole mailing lists stuff, 
about which they neither know nor care.
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Question about Calc and Annotations

2012-01-20 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Cor is a star here as are quite a few others.  It's really good to hear from 
someone that understands what is going on in the devs list.  Don't worry about 
your English.  It is better than many people that were born and raised in my 
country (i live in England)! :)
Regards from
Tom :)


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Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Question about Calc and Annotations
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Friday, 20 January, 2012, 0:36

Hi Cor,

I'm writing this just to say thanks.

Sorry for my poor english that sometimes turn me incapable to say exactly
what I want.

Regards

Alex Mitsio Sato




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 Hi Alex,

 alex sato wrote (19-01-12 01:04)

  Is it normal Calc to freeze some minutes when resizing the width of a
 column in a blank sheet that only has a column filled with 18000 cells
 with
 annotation??


 Not that I know. On the other hand: I never tried :-)
 And you did, in a very comprehensive way, if I also judge your second post!

 I think some of the devs will be very happy with your trial / posts.


 I include a link to your posts here - lets see what their judgement is
 about the need/use to create a bug report.
  
http://listarchives.**libreoffice.org/global/users/**msg15541.htmlhttp://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/msg15541.html
  
http://listarchives.**libreoffice.org/global/users/**msg15612.htmlhttp://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/msg15612.html

 Work is going in on all sorts of re-work in Calc, so it might be that this
 is on the radar already. Maybe not.

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Question about Calc and Annotations

2012-01-20 Thread Tom
Hi :)
Yes, unticking the option Use a Java runtime environment does stop java
from being used.  If the freezing and slowdowns still happen then there is
no need to change to a different version of java.  Might as well leave it
ticked/checked on the other machines because it has no effect.
Regarsd from
Tom :)

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[libreoffice-users] Re: UNSUBSCRIBE

2012-01-20 Thread Tom
Hi :)
Thanks :)  Andreas Sager had good points too.  Actually it is possible to
subscribe using a nomail option but again it's waaay beyond the abilities
of most normal users that just sign-up to get a single simple question
answered.  ie you have to un-subcribe from the normal list and re-subscribe
to a different address! lol.  

I think one person frustration led him/her to post the same email to
multiple threads that he/she hadn't wanted to receive in the first place. 
It might have seemed rude but it's no more rude than what this list does by
it's very nature.
Regards from
Tom :)



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Re: [libreoffice-users] UNSUBSCRIBE

2012-01-20 Thread Brad Rogers
On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 12:02:09 +0100
Mirosław Zalewski mini...@poczta.onet.pl wrote:

Hello Mirosław,

 of computer/Internet users these days are not. They like simple web
 interface of bulletin boards software (also called forums). They
 can't configure their 

It really is a lot easier via email.  I subscribe to 70 or so mailing
lists.  If they were all web forums, I'd have gone mad by now going
from web site to web site, logging in, finding any and all new messages,
reading those of interest, then marking everything else as unread.

Yes, a bit of configuration has to be done to filter list mail
appropriately in my MUA but after that's done, I hit *ONE* button and
*everything* is delivered and sorted.  Peace of piss, as we say around
here.

I really don't have the time to run around the abortion that web forums
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[libreoffice-users] (was: UNSUBSCRIBE)

2012-01-20 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi,

 A proper official forum such as most modern projects use
 (Firefox, Fedora, Ubuntu, Mint and so on and on) would neatly
 avoid all sorts of recurring problems.

 Are you sure? :-D

 100% sure. Mailing lists are perfect for collaboration in teams.
 They are totally inadequate for end user support.

I did not intend to reinitiate the old discussion about having
forums or not. I just wanted to express my doubts, that a forum
would quoteavoid all sorts of recurring problems/quote.

A forum would certainly not help against people, that manage to
subscribe to a mailinglist, but won´t manage to unsubscribe, for
some unexplainable reason.

Stefan


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[libreoffice-users] Unsubscribing from this list

2012-01-20 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hello,

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Unsubscribing from this list

2012-01-20 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi Florian,

Florian Effenberger wrote (20-01-12 13:28)


in the last few days, we have been receiving numerous requests for
unsubscription from this mailing list.


Sadly, yes.
Sorry that this is causing you extra trouble.


Way over 95% of all unsubscription problems are not related to any
malfunction of our mail system or of spam filters triggering in error.
We can confirm - we've researched each and every case - that nearly all
unsubscription problems simply occur because people do not *READ* the
instructions we give.


Obviously.

I always wonder how it can be possible that someone can send a mail to 
XX+subscribe@YY and reply to the confirmation mail, but then is not able 
to do the same with XX+unsubscribe@YY.

To me, it's just wasting peoples time and fouling our lists. Ah well :-)


Thank you very much for your cooperation, and sorry for any inconveniences,


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Re: How to migrate OpenOfficec Writer settings into LinbreOffice Writer

2012-01-20 Thread Maurice Batey
On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 00:29:34 +0100, Cor Nouws wrote:

 You can type the dot in the field.

  Yes, indeed, but then one has to remember to remove the '.ooo3' before
opening the .ooo3 directory. Messy!

OK - as you and others have described, there *are* of course ways of
importing templates (and other user info).
   It's just that one has to *know* what they are, for example by
enquiring in here.

What I actually said was:

   Perhaps LO should be a little more helpful in this respect.

For example, anyone who has tried using the Google Chrome browser will
see a superb example of 'being helpful' (in this case importing Firefox
settings).

If LO doesn't feel it's important to implement an import function, it
could at least provide an 'Import Info' option that would display
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[libreoffice-users] Re: How to migrate OpenOfficec Writer settings into LinbreOffice Writer

2012-01-20 Thread Maurice Batey
On Thu, 19 Jan 2012 16:31:39 -0800, NoOp wrote:

 Tools|Options|General|- untick Open/Save 'Use LO dialogs

  Using LO 3.4.5, when I select Tools/Options/General, I do not see
anything like that - just:

HELP:  Tips, Help Agent, Extended Tips, Reset help Agent
DOCUMENT STATUS: Printing set, Allow to save doc even if not mod...,
YEAR: Interpret as years between...
ENABLE EXPERIMENTAL...

 - i.e. no sign of /Open/Save 'Use LO dialog.

Was I looking in the wrong place?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Re: How to migrate OpenOfficec Writer settings into LinbreOffice Writer

2012-01-20 Thread Cor Nouws
Maurice Batey wrote (20-01-12 13:59)
 Perhaps LO should be a little more helpful in this respect.

The first time you install LibreOffice with an OOo user profile, that
will be (mostly) imported.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Unsubscribing from this list

2012-01-20 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi,

Cor Nouws wrote on 2012-01-20 13:57:


Sadly, yes.
Sorry that this is causing you extra trouble.


no problem, I hope this information can help a bit those who cannot 
unsubscribe.



I always wonder how it can be possible that someone can send a mail to
XX+subscribe@YY and reply to the confirmation mail, but then is not able
to do the same with XX+unsubscribe@YY.
To me, it's just wasting peoples time and fouling our lists. Ah well :-)


Indeed. What's most annoying are those people badly complaining and 
ranting at us, but most people simply do not take the time to read. 
That's what annoys me most. I accept to be blamed when there's a 
malfunction on our side, but when people simply do not want to read, it 
sucks. :)


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Unsubscribing from this list

2012-01-20 Thread drew
On Fri, 2012-01-20 at 13:57 +0100, Cor Nouws wrote:
 Hi Florian,
 
 Florian Effenberger wrote (20-01-12 13:28)
 
  in the last few days, we have been receiving numerous requests for
  unsubscription from this mailing list.
 
 Sadly, yes.
 Sorry that this is causing you extra trouble.


  Way over 95% of all unsubscription problems are not related to any
  malfunction of our mail system or of spam filters triggering in error.
  We can confirm - we've researched each and every case - that nearly all
  unsubscription problems simply occur because people do not *READ* the
  instructions we give.
 
 Obviously.
 
 I always wonder how it can be possible that someone can send a mail to 
 XX+subscribe@YY and reply to the confirmation mail, but then is not able 
 to do the same with XX+unsubscribe@YY.

Well, maybe some of it is that we are more then happy to make it dead
simple (one click on a web page) to get them subscribed... they don't
really have to read or understand much of anything. But if you want to
leave..different story - then we say- on your own buddy, or What you
can't read or Man are you stupid.

Maybe make that link in the footer of each email a real unsubscribe URl,
as we do to help get them subscribed, and not just a link to a help
page. 

Anyway, just a thought.

//drew

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Unsubscribing from this list

2012-01-20 Thread Cor Nouws

drew wrote (20-01-12 14:25)


Well, maybe some of it is that we are more then happy to make it dead
simple (one click on a web page) to get them subscribed...


Ah, do we offer so much service :-)
Then indeed we should do the same for un-subscribing. (Or make 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] UNSUBSCRIBE

2012-01-20 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Forums usually allow the hard-core mailing-list fans to subscribe to one, many 
or all threads in the forum so the net result would be about the same for you.  
It would just reduce the amount of complex stuff that less sophisticated users 
would have to do in order to see answers to the one-and-only thread they are 
interested in.  
Regards from
Tom :)

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Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] UNSUBSCRIBE
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Friday, 20 January, 2012, 11:46

On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 12:02:09 +0100
Mirosław Zalewski mini...@poczta.onet.pl wrote:

Hello Mirosław,

 of computer/Internet users these days are not. They like simple web
 interface of bulletin boards software (also called forums). They
 can't configure their 

It really is a lot easier via email.  I subscribe to 70 or so mailing
lists.  If they were all web forums, I'd have gone mad by now going
from web site to web site, logging in, finding any and all new messages,
reading those of interest, then marking everything else as unread.

Yes, a bit of configuration has to be done to filter list mail
appropriately in my MUA but after that's done, I hit *ONE* button and
*everything* is delivered and sorted.  Peace of piss, as we say around
here.

I really don't have the time to run around the abortion that web forums
are.

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[libreoffice-users] Re: (was: UNSUBSCRIBE)

2012-01-20 Thread Andreas Säger

Am 20.01.2012 13:12, Stefan Weigel wrote:

A forum would certainly not help against people, that manage to
subscribe to a mailinglist, but won´t manage to unsubscribe, for
some unexplainable reason.

Stefan




The reason might be trollism against the project and/or some malware 
which registers victims to mailing lists.
In a well moderated forum the problem does not exist. Spam and obvious 
rant is removable before thousands of people take notice of it.

An unused subscription simply does nothing.


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[libreoffice-users] Re: MySQL native connector - several databases retrieved?

2012-01-20 Thread fmayo
Le 20/01/2012 09:30, Alexander Thurgood [via Document Foundation Mail Archive] 
a écrit :
 If you want to be able to see all of the dbs again irrespective of the
 driver privileges, you could, instead of resetting them at mysql server
 level, try activating/deactiving the Ignore Driver Privileges option
 in the Connection  Advanced details of your ODB file (although I
 haven't tried this to see if it actually works).
 Alex 
Thanks for the hint, Alex.
I gave it a try, but this action did not produce any visible effect on 
displayed dbs' (even with closing Base between each 
action on this option).
Then, the ongoing solution for me is to have two distinct user profiles: one 
accessing to all db and an other one with access 
rights restricted to the targeted db.
BTW, do you know of some guide, tuto,site or forum related to combined use of 
MySQL + Base ?
Thanks again for your support in Base area.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Unsubscribing from this list

2012-01-20 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
True.  Sometimes one wonders if people read their own posts.  However bad it 
seems here it is worth joining Kioskea or Yahoo lists just to see how 
incredibly much more enlightened everyone (and i do mean everyone) is here.  

The mailing list was a good idea when there were only 160 people subscribed to 
the lists but it's a 'bit' unwieldy now.  
Regards from
Tom :)
  

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Date: Friday, 20 January, 2012, 13:16

Hi,

Cor Nouws wrote on 2012-01-20 13:57:

 Sadly, yes.
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: MySQL native connector - several databases retrieved?

2012-01-20 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Perhaps this link?  I haven't read any of these tho :(
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Connect_MySQL_and_Base
I'm not sure if the 'need' for java is still there.  

http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewforum.php?f=13sid=6943ad59fc048d9c54a76bd69f7229cc

http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=40t=41292
http://www.webhosting.uk.com/forums/mysql-hosting/5591-connecting-mysql-openoffice-base-using-jdbc.html
Regards from
Tom :)


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From: fmayo francoismalias-fo...@yahoo.fr
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: MySQL native connector - several databases 
retrieved?
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Friday, 20 January, 2012, 13:35

Le 20/01/2012 09:30, Alexander Thurgood [via Document Foundation Mail Archive] 
a écrit :
 If you want to be able to see all of the dbs again irrespective of the
 driver privileges, you could, instead of resetting them at mysql server
 level, try activating/deactiving the Ignore Driver Privileges option
 in the Connection  Advanced details of your ODB file (although I
 haven't tried this to see if it actually works).
 Alex 
Thanks for the hint, Alex.
I gave it a try, but this action did not produce any visible effect on 
displayed dbs' (even with closing Base between each 
action on this option).
Then, the ongoing solution for me is to have two distinct user profiles: one 
accessing to all db and an other one with access 
rights restricted to the targeted db.
BTW, do you know of some guide, tuto,site or forum related to combined use of 
MySQL + Base ?
Thanks again for your support in Base area.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: How to migrate OpenOfficec Writer settings into LinbreOffice Writer

2012-01-20 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
I think

Tools - Options - LibreOffice - General

is the right place.  It's a bit weird that the first section in the left-hand 
panel in that pop-up is LibreOffice.  It kinda makes sense after you have 
played around with the different options but at first it seems weird.
Regards from
Tom :)

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Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: How to migrate OpenOfficec Writer settings 
into LinbreOffice Writer
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Friday, 20 January, 2012, 13:08

On Thu, 19 Jan 2012 16:31:39 -0800, NoOp wrote:

 Tools|Options|General|- untick Open/Save 'Use LO dialogs

  Using LO 3.4.5, when I select Tools/Options/General, I do not see
anything like that - just:

HELP:  Tips, Help Agent, Extended Tips, Reset help Agent
DOCUMENT STATUS: Printing set, Allow to save doc even if not mod...,
YEAR: Interpret as years between...
ENABLE EXPERIMENTAL...

 - i.e. no sign of /Open/Save 'Use LO dialog.

Was I looking in the wrong place?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Incremental binary packages

2012-01-20 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

On 01/19/2012 11:26 PM, kholis wrote:

On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Jay Lozierjsloz...@gmail.com  wrote:

AFAIK there are no patches available to update LO from an older version to a
newer version. If downloading is your only option (see below) I might only
update about 12 - 18 months from one major version to the next (3.4 to 3.5).


I dont mind to download any major release in big size. But minor
release always teasing me to update :p
Unfortunately with same size. :(


There are a couple of CD/DVD packages available, semi-officially, from
various national groups. I know there is a North American DVD available.

Where are you? You might check with your local user group for the
availability of a CD/DVD


Indonesia. I'm using ADSL connnection.


What OS are you using? Which version are you using? These might help us make
a better suggestion.

Ubuntu 11.10 with LO 3.4.4.
Maybe I better to wait next major release to update my LibreOffice :)

Thanks Jay.

Thats out for me to send him a North American DVD.  USA to Malta was 
about $10.  But maybe if I do not include a DVD case it would make it 
cost less.  Hopefully there will be some online store in your region of 
the world that can send you DVDs filled with all the install files and 
the goodies you will need to use LibreOffice in your country.


Honestly, 3.4.5 is now out.  3.5.0 will be out soon, and 3.4.6 is a 
little after that.  I would not go to the 3.5.x line till 3.5.2 or 3.5.3 
is you have download cost issues.


The current NA-DVD is 3.4.4, as shown at
http://libreoffice-na.us/English-3.4-installs/install.html
with the link for its ISO at
http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/box/3.4.4/libo3.4.4-NA-DVD-WLM-Dec-3-2011.iso

I will be updating the NA-DVD to 3.4.5 next week, after I download all 
80+ install files, help packs, and language packs that takes 1.7 gig of 
the 3.6 gig DVD.





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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Incremental binary packages

2012-01-20 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

On 01/20/2012 04:08 AM, Tom wrote:

Hi :)

I am still using LibreOffice 3.3.2 and i am fairly sure quite a lot of other
people are too.  It still does everything i want and more.  It still beats
MS Office 2010 by quite a long way especially on lower spec machines and
when i need to move images around smoothly in any direction.

Even with the security issues around java i feel a LOT safer with an 'old'
LO than i ever felt with a 'new' MS Office.
Regards from
Tom :)


Well, you might find 3.4.4 worth installing.  It does work better with 
those pesky .docx files, than 3.3.2 does.  That is one of the reasons I 
keep updating.  I have some idiots that insist on using .docx files and 
all their [the idiots] weird graphics on simple 2-3 page documents.  I 
think they must be frustrated artists, or something.


I agree with the feeling of being safer with LO over MSO.  I switched to 
Ubuntu as my main OS for the safety aspect, and the ability to find free 
software, where it would cost a lot to get the stuff on Windows.




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[libreoffice-users] Re: Unsubscribing from this list

2012-01-20 Thread Pedro

drewjensen wrote
 
 Well, maybe some of it is that we are more then happy to make it dead
 simple (one click on a web page) to get them subscribed... they don't
 really have to read or understand much of anything. But if you want to
 leave..different story - then we say- on your own buddy, or What you
 can't read or Man are you stupid.
 
 Maybe make that link in the footer of each email a real unsubscribe URl,
 as we do to help get them subscribed, and not just a link to a help
 page. 
 

+1

If there are complains from people on getting out (and they obviously
managed to get in), it seems to me that the two processes aren't equally
simple.

Again, why isn't there a simple link to unsubscribe in each messages footer
instead of a link to Instructions on how to unsubscribe? It takes only two
clicks to subscribe and reading a whole page of instructions to unsubscribe.

Try to find this link in the instructions page:
users+unsubscribe(AT)global.libreoffice.org

Compare that to clicking on link at
http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/

Just my 2 cents

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Incremental binary packages

2012-01-20 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
There are huge advantages and developments in each release.  The 3.4.4 seemed 
to be a bit of a watershed as it combined the advantages of 2 branches and 
dealt with security 
issues but even so i am still quite happy to stick with 3.3.2.  

It handles MS Office formats well enough that i am sometimes able to convert 
from one format to another when people using different versions of MS Office 
have troubles reading each others stuff.  
Regards from
Tom :)


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From: webmaster for Kracked Press Productions webmas...@krackedpress.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Incremental binary packages
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Friday, 20 January, 2012, 14:03

On 01/20/2012 04:08 AM, Tom wrote:
 Hi :)
 
 I am still using LibreOffice 3.3.2 and i am fairly sure quite a lot of other
 people are too.  It still does everything i want and more.  It still beats
 MS Office 2010 by quite a long way especially on lower spec machines and
 when i need to move images around smoothly in any direction.
 
 Even with the security issues around java i feel a LOT safer with an 'old'
 LO than i ever felt with a 'new' MS Office.
 Regards from
 Tom :)

Well, you might find 3.4.4 worth installing.  It does work better with those 
pesky .docx files, than 3.3.2 does.  That is one of the reasons I keep 
updating.  I have some idiots that insist on using .docx files and all their 
[the idiots] weird graphics on simple 2-3 page documents.  I think they must be 
frustrated artists, or something.

I agree with the feeling of being safer with LO over MSO.  I switched to Ubuntu 
as my main OS for the safety aspect, and the ability to find free software, 
where it would cost a lot to get the stuff on Windows.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Unsubscribing from this list

2012-01-20 Thread drew
On Fri, 2012-01-20 at 14:32 +0100, Cor Nouws wrote:
 drew wrote (20-01-12 14:25)
 
  Well, maybe some of it is that we are more then happy to make it dead
  simple (one click on a web page) to get them subscribed...
 
 Ah, do we offer so much service :-)
 Then indeed we should do the same for un-subscribing. (Or make 
 subscribing 'difficult')

*chuckling*... well I suspect that the sad truth is that even if it is
one click on a URL in the footer of each and every email, to start the
unsubscribe process, there will still be someone that just can't quite
manage.

 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] UNSUBSCRIBE

2012-01-20 Thread Mark Stanton
 Forums usually allow the hard-core mailing-list fans to subscribe
 to one, many or all threads in the forum so the net result would be
 about the same for you.

It really isn't the same.  You've got to go to the forum to see what the 
conversation is to then subscribe to a thread.  All the time.  And even if it 
does email you about messages in a thread, you have to go to the forum to 
reply, 
and sometimes to view the message too.  A mailing list delivers it all to your 
own mailbox and then you can have your evil way with it there.

I'm not arguing against changing to forums (although I'm not very keen on them 
for the same reasons that Brad puts forward), I'm just reiterating that they 
REALLY are very different in the way one interacts with them.

Regards
Mark Stanton
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Re: [libreoffice-users] UNSUBSCRIBE

2012-01-20 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
It sounds as though you haven't tried Launchpad forums.  You might have to 
register to really see what i mean
https://launchpad.net/
Click on one of the projects down the right-hand-side.  Then somewhere on the 
right click on Answers to get to their forums.

I agree that many forums are not set-up like that.  
Regards from
Tom :)


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From: Mark Stanton m...@vowleyfarm.co.uk
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] UNSUBSCRIBE
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Friday, 20 January, 2012, 14:50

 Forums usually allow the hard-core mailing-list fans to subscribe
 to one, many or all threads in the forum so the net result would be
 about the same for you.

It really isn't the same.  You've got to go to the forum to see what the 
conversation is to then subscribe to a thread.  All the time.  And even if it 
does email you about messages in a thread, you have to go to the forum to 
reply, 
and sometimes to view the message too.  A mailing list delivers it all to your 
own mailbox and then you can have your evil way with it there.

I'm not arguing against changing to forums (although I'm not very keen on them 
for the same reasons that Brad puts forward), I'm just reiterating that they 
REALLY are very different in the way one interacts with them.

Regards
Mark Stanton
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: MySQL native connector - several databases retrieved?

2012-01-20 Thread drew
On Fri, 2012-01-20 at 05:35 -0800, fmayo wrote:
 Le 20/01/2012 09:30, Alexander Thurgood [via Document Foundation Mail 
 Archive] a écrit :
  If you want to be able to see all of the dbs again irrespective of the
  driver privileges, you could, instead of resetting them at mysql server
  level, try activating/deactiving the Ignore Driver Privileges option
  in the Connection  Advanced details of your ODB file (although I
  haven't tried this to see if it actually works).
  Alex 
 Thanks for the hint, Alex.
 I gave it a try, but this action did not produce any visible effect on 
 displayed dbs' (even with closing Base between each 
 action on this option).
 Then, the ongoing solution for me is to have two distinct user profiles: one 
 accessing to all db and an other one with access 
 rights restricted to the targeted db.
 BTW, do you know of some guide, tuto,site or forum related to combined use of 
 MySQL + Base ?
 Thanks again for your support in Base area.

Hello Francois,

I believe that for the time being the absolute best location for
information is the one you have already found.

There is a Base user guide nearing completion, but it will not be
specific to MySQL connections.

There are some historical web sites that can be mined, but many of the
people that donated the most usable information there are now here.

Best wishes,

//drew




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[libreoffice-users] Re: MySQL native connector - several databases retrieved?

2012-01-20 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 20/01/12 14:35, fmayo a écrit :

Hi François,

 Thanks for the hint, Alex.
 I gave it a try, but this action did not produce any visible effect on 
 displayed dbs' (even with closing Base between each 
 action on this option).
 Then, the ongoing solution for me is to have two distinct user profiles: one 
 accessing to all db and an other one with access 
 rights restricted to the targeted db.
 BTW, do you know of some guide, tuto,site or forum related to combined use of 
 MySQL + Base ?
 Thanks again for your support in Base area.
 

Ah ok, wasn't sure anyway whether that option actually did anything, or
maybe I just misunderstood what it was supposed to do ;-)

If you speak/understand French, which I suspect you might from your
name, there are a few out there :

http://www.google.fr/url?sa=trct=jq=openoffice.org%20base%20et%20mysqlsource=webcd=2ved=0CCkQFjABurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.openoffice.org%2Ffr%2FDocumentation%2FHow-to%2FBdd%2F05jdbc_mysqlfr-v2.pdfei=GIQZT9W5JILrOfGYiZcLusg=AFQjCNHYrxzDz3noMW0VRrUbEFpbHgDITAcad=rja

http://www.solix.info/spip/spip.php?article59

http://www.openoffice.org/fr/Documentation/How-to/indexht-base.html

http://forge.mysql.com/wiki/Connector_OpenOffice

http://valaurea.free.fr/documents/sig11_ooomysql_1.html



This link below points to the French OOo Base forum, but they will also
field questions about LibreOffice :

http://user.services.openoffice.org/fr/forum/viewforum.php?f=9sid=c96475dd0faebf7e8ff1926dcfcabae4

The corresponding English OOo Base forums :

http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewforum.phtml?f=10

http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewforum.php?f=13sid=4d3f693555f7ca2c615460430117d722


There is also more general stuff on the net about Base in English, not
least the User Guides produced by ODFAuthors and the LibreOffice
Documentation project :

http://www.odfauthors.org/openoffice.org/english/userguide3/db3/dbg3_draft

http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/6/68/0108GS3-GettingStartedWithBase.odt


So,yeah, you have to trawl around a bit, but there is stuff out there.


Alex








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[libreoffice-users] Re: Need simple find replace macro

2012-01-20 Thread paulwhitehurst
Andrew:

Thank you for your work.  I used your last two and both of them worked fine.

The one that searches for the next } is more useful to me.  I would like to
figure out how to make it ask to go to the top to continue the search if it
gets to the end of the document, or just stop the macro without opening the
macro editor window.


Paul

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Re: How to migrate OpenOfficec Writer settings into LinbreOffice Writer

2012-01-20 Thread Maurice Batey
On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 13:53:54 +, Tom Davies wrote:

 Tools - Options - LibreOffice - General
 
 is the right place.
   Well, when I said:

   when I select Tools/Options/General, I do not see
 anything like that...

- it did of course map out - as you say - to Tools - Options -
LibreOffice - General, which showed the same bunch of options I described
- none of which bore any resemblance to NoOp's untick Open/Save 'Use LO
dialogs!  (Can't find that anywhere...)

Are we all using the same version of LO (mine's 3.4.5)?!

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Re: Re: How to migrate OpenOfficec Writer settings into LinbreOffice Writer

2012-01-20 Thread Maurice Batey
On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 14:09:16 +0100, Cor Nouws wrote:

 The first time you install LibreOffice with an OOo user profile, that
 will be (mostly) imported.

  Yesterday, I installed LO 3.4.5 on another PC here (to replace Open
Office).

What option in the install mechanism would have caused it to have
been installed with an OOo user profile, Cor?

It certainly didn't pick up the user's OO templates.
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Re: Re: How to migrate OpenOfficec Writer settings into LinbreOffice Writer

2012-01-20 Thread Ian Samson
That would be nice. I wonder if there's a settings file hidden somewhere in
OO that we could simply locate and copy across to LO (appropriate folder)
and voila, it's done! Of course, BEFORE one uninstalls OpenOffice.


2012/1/20 Maurice Batey maur...@bcs.org.uk

 On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 14:09:16 +0100, Cor Nouws wrote:

  The first time you install LibreOffice with an OOo user profile, that
  will be (mostly) imported.

  Yesterday, I installed LO 3.4.5 on another PC here (to replace Open
 Office).

 What option in the install mechanism would have caused it to have
 been installed with an OOo user profile, Cor?

 It certainly didn't pick up the user's OO templates.
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[libreoffice-users] Re: MySQL native connector - several databases retrieved?

2012-01-20 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 20/01/12 14:35, fmayo a écrit :

Hi Frnaçois,

 BTW, do you know of some guide, tuto,site or forum related to combined use of 
 MySQL + Base ?
 Thanks again for your support in Base area.
 

One more thing comes to mind : to get the best out of your connection to
a mysql server, you will find yourself writing and executing queries in
DirectSQL mode rather than with the graphical query designer as it is,
errm, how should I put it, a bit stuck in time (by that I mean, leagues
away in the past from where Access is today, or Lotus Approach, FMPro,
etc) when it comes to accessing the underlying server engine query
functionality. The same goes for casual user friendly Form design ;-)
just so you're forewarned :-))


Alex


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[libreoffice-users] Re: How to migrate OpenOfficec Writer settings into LinbreOffice Writer

2012-01-20 Thread Maurice Batey
On Thu, 19 Jan 2012 16:31:39 -0800, NoOp wrote:

  Tools|Options|General|- untick Open/Save 'Use LO dialogs. Then
 OK. Now when you are in the primary directory, just right click the
 directory window and select 'Show Hidden Files'.

  None of that in my LO 3.4.5!

But I've just looked at OpenOffice 3.2.1 and all that *is* there..
   (To show hidden files, need to click on the Option button top right.)

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Re: Re: How to migrate OpenOfficec Writer settings into LinbreOffice Writer

2012-01-20 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Just copypaste or rename the OOo UserProfile from 
... openoffice.org/ ...
to
... libreoffice/ ...

You can even copy the user profile to different machines running different 
operating systems.
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/UserProfiles
All your settings and Extensions and galleries and stuff is stored inside your 
user-profile.  Note that if you have other OpenSOurce programs then their 
settings are stored in the same folder so you will see things like
... firefox/ ...
... libreoffice/ ...
... thunderbird/ ...
Well, after switching your file-browser to show hidden filesfolders you will 
see them.
Regards from
Tom :)

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From: Ian Samson iansams...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Re: Re: How to migrate OpenOfficec Writer 
settings into LinbreOffice Writer
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Friday, 20 January, 2012, 15:59

That would be nice. I wonder if there's a settings file hidden somewhere in
OO that we could simply locate and copy across to LO (appropriate folder)
and voila, it's done! Of course, BEFORE one uninstalls OpenOffice.


2012/1/20 Maurice Batey maur...@bcs.org.uk

 On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 14:09:16 +0100, Cor Nouws wrote:

  The first time you install LibreOffice with an OOo user profile, that
  will be (mostly) imported.

  Yesterday, I installed LO 3.4.5 on another PC here (to replace Open
 Office).

 What option in the install mechanism would have caused it to have
 been installed with an OOo user profile, Cor?

 It certainly didn't pick up the user's OO templates.
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Unsubscribing from this list

2012-01-20 Thread Dan Lewis
On Fri, 2012-01-20 at 09:23 -0500, drew wrote:
 On Fri, 2012-01-20 at 14:32 +0100, Cor Nouws wrote:
  drew wrote (20-01-12 14:25)
  
   Well, maybe some of it is that we are more then happy to make it dead
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  Ah, do we offer so much service :-)
  Then indeed we should do the same for un-subscribing. (Or make 
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 *chuckling*... well I suspect that the sad truth is that even if it is
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- Cor
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: MySQL native connector - several databases retrieved?

2012-01-20 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Ahh yes i forgot there are some LibreOffice chapters but mostly only in draft
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications#LibreOffice_Base_Guide
Probably not much different from the OOo guide as i suspect the same 
person/people is/are doing both.  
Regards from
Tom :)

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From: Alexander Thurgood alex.thurg...@gmail.com
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: MySQL native connector - several databases 
retrieved?
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Friday, 20 January, 2012, 15:31

Le 20/01/12 14:35, fmayo a écrit :

Hi François,

 Thanks for the hint, Alex.
 I gave it a try, but this action did not produce any visible effect on 
 displayed dbs' (even with closing Base between each 
 action on this option).
 Then, the ongoing solution for me is to have two distinct user profiles: one 
 accessing to all db and an other one with access 
 rights restricted to the targeted db.
 BTW, do you know of some guide, tuto,site or forum related to combined use of 
 MySQL + Base ?
 Thanks again for your support in Base area.
 

Ah ok, wasn't sure anyway whether that option actually did anything, or
maybe I just misunderstood what it was supposed to do ;-)

If you speak/understand French, which I suspect you might from your
name, there are a few out there :

http://www.google.fr/url?sa=trct=jq=openoffice.org%20base%20et%20mysqlsource=webcd=2ved=0CCkQFjABurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.openoffice.org%2Ffr%2FDocumentation%2FHow-to%2FBdd%2F05jdbc_mysqlfr-v2.pdfei=GIQZT9W5JILrOfGYiZcLusg=AFQjCNHYrxzDz3noMW0VRrUbEFpbHgDITAcad=rja

http://www.solix.info/spip/spip.php?article59

http://www.openoffice.org/fr/Documentation/How-to/indexht-base.html

http://forge.mysql.com/wiki/Connector_OpenOffice

http://valaurea.free.fr/documents/sig11_ooomysql_1.html



This link below points to the French OOo Base forum, but they will also
field questions about LibreOffice :

http://user.services.openoffice.org/fr/forum/viewforum.php?f=9sid=c96475dd0faebf7e8ff1926dcfcabae4

The corresponding English OOo Base forums :

http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewforum.phtml?f=10

http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewforum.php?f=13sid=4d3f693555f7ca2c615460430117d722


There is also more general stuff on the net about Base in English, not
least the User Guides produced by ODFAuthors and the LibreOffice
Documentation project :

http://www.odfauthors.org/openoffice.org/english/userguide3/db3/dbg3_draft

http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/6/68/0108GS3-GettingStartedWithBase.odt


So,yeah, you have to trawl around a bit, but there is stuff out there.


Alex








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[libreoffice-users] Re: Re: Re: Re: How to migrate OpenOfficec Writer settings into LinbreOffice Writer

2012-01-20 Thread Maurice Batey
On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 16:15:10 +, Tom Davies wrote:

 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/UserProfiles

  That shows No text on this page. 
Need to take the 's' off the end of 'Userprofiles' above.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Unsubscribing from this list

2012-01-20 Thread Florian Effenberger

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: How to migrate OpenOfficec Writer settings into LibreOffice Writer

2012-01-20 Thread Dan Lewis
On Fri, 2012-01-20 at 16:09 +, Maurice Batey wrote:
 On Thu, 19 Jan 2012 16:31:39 -0800, NoOp wrote:
 
   Tools|Options|General|- untick Open/Save 'Use LO dialogs. Then
  OK. Now when you are in the primary directory, just right click the
  directory window and select 'Show Hidden Files'.
 
   None of that in my LO 3.4.5!
 
 But I've just looked at OpenOffice 3.2.1 and all that *is* there..
(To show hidden files, need to click on the Option button top right.)
 
 -- 
 /\/\aurice 

 I disagree. The correct path has always been 
Tools|Options|OpenOffice.org|General. (General is part of a sublist
within OpenOffice.org.)
 When following the path I just gave, there is a section centered
vertically on the right side of that page labeled: Open/Save dialogs. In
OOo, the check box is labeled: Use OpenOffice.org dialogs; in LO, the
check box is labeled Use LibreOffice dialogs.
 But can someone tell me what this does. Help in neither LO nor OOo
explains what happens when this is checked.
 Location of the templates in OOo: use Tools|LibreOffice|Paths
to locate where the templates are in the LO folder. replace the word
LibreOffice with OpenOffice.org.
 (In Linux, both of these will have a period before them and the
rest of this will be just about LO in a Linux OS.) In LO, File|
Templates|Organize opens the Template Management dialog. Click the
Command button and select Import Templates from the context menu opening
the Open dialog. Browse to your home directory. At the bottom of the
list of folders, right click and select Show Hidden Files. (All the
files beginning with a period [hidden folders] will appear. Path to the
the OOo templates requires double clicking in this sequence:
.openoffice.org|3|user|template. You should now see all your OOo
templates.
 Now here is a secret to importing all of the templates at one time:
Select all of the templates. (For example, you can click the top
template and then hold down the shift key while clicking the bottom
template.) Click the open button, and all of the templates you selected
are copied to the LO template folder.
 Another method for someone who can use the command line in Linux:
 cp .openoffice.org/3/user/template/*.ot? .libreoffice/3/user/template
(This copies all the OOo templates to LO.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Re: Re: How to migrate OpenOfficec Writer settings into LinbreOffice Writer

2012-01-20 Thread Ian Samson
Brilliant suggestion, Tom. Many thanks for this advice. I will do this on
all 3 of my machines, all running different OS - XP-Home, Vista 64, Vista
32 Business.

I'm sure to report back once I have done this and tested the result.


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On 20 January 2012 18:15, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 Hi :)
 Just copypaste or rename the OOo UserProfile from
 ... openoffice.org/ ...
 to
 ... libreoffice/ ...

 You can even copy the user profile to different machines running different
 operating systems.
 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/UserProfiles
 All your settings and Extensions and galleries and stuff is stored inside
 your user-profile.  Note that if you have other OpenSOurce programs then
 their settings are stored in the same folder so you will see things like
 ... firefox/ ...
 ... libreoffice/ ...
 ... thunderbird/ ...
 Well, after switching your file-browser to show hidden filesfolders you
 will see them.
 Regards from
 Tom :)

 --- On Fri, 20/1/12, Ian Samson iansams...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Ian Samson iansams...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Re: Re: How to migrate OpenOfficec
 Writer settings into LinbreOffice Writer
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Date: Friday, 20 January, 2012, 15:59

 That would be nice. I wonder if there's a settings file hidden somewhere in
 OO that we could simply locate and copy across to LO (appropriate folder)
 and voila, it's done! Of course, BEFORE one uninstalls OpenOffice.


 2012/1/20 Maurice Batey maur...@bcs.org.uk

  On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 14:09:16 +0100, Cor Nouws wrote:
 
   The first time you install LibreOffice with an OOo user profile, that
   will be (mostly) imported.
 
   Yesterday, I installed LO 3.4.5 on another PC here (to replace Open
  Office).
 
  What option in the install mechanism would have caused it to have
  been installed with an OOo user profile, Cor?
 
  It certainly didn't pick up the user's OO templates.
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[libreoffice-users] Re: Re: How to migrate OpenOfficec Writer settings into LibreOffice Writer

2012-01-20 Thread Maurice Batey
On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 12:17:03 -0500, Dan Lewis wrote:

  When following the path I just gave, there is a section centered
 vertically on the right side of that page labeled: Open/Save dialogs.
; in LO, the check box is labeled Use LibreOffice dialogs.

  Let me say one more time: That does not appear with the LO 3.4.5.
installed HERE.

If you say it  appears in yours, then I accept that, but it doesn't
appear in MY LO 3.4.5 (but does in OpenOffice).  

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[libreoffice-users] Add pdf as page in document

2012-01-20 Thread upscope
Is there a way to put a pdf form into a page of a newletter? I know you 
can create one, but this form was sent to me to be included in the 
newsletter so people can fill it in and then print it for mailing.
From writer:

CODE:
---
 file--open and selected the document and file type as .pdf.

/CODE:
-
It opens the pdf in draw instead of the select document page in writer. 
I know I save it as an image and insert it but then the users will not 
beable to use it.

Thanks for any ideas.
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Version 4.7.4 (4.7.4) Release 11|Intel core2duo 2.5 MHZ, |8GB DDR3|
GeForce 8400GS (NVIDIA-Linux-290.10-13.1.x86_64) 

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Re: Re: How to migrate OpenOfficec Writer settings into LinbreOffice Writer

2012-01-20 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Make sure you rename the current profile jic something weird goes wrong!!
Regards from
Tom :)

--- On Fri, 20/1/12, Ian Samson iansams...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Ian Samson iansams...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Re: Re: How to migrate OpenOfficec Writer 
settings into LinbreOffice Writer
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Cc: tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk
Date: Friday, 20 January, 2012, 17:26

Brilliant suggestion, Tom. Many thanks for this advice. I will do this on
all 3 of my machines, all running different OS - XP-Home, Vista 64, Vista
32 Business.

I'm sure to report back once I have done this and tested the result.


* Ian D. Samson http://www.lp2cd.za.net/index.htm*




On 20 January 2012 18:15, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 Hi :)
 Just copypaste or rename the OOo UserProfile from
 ... openoffice.org/ ...
 to
 ... libreoffice/ ...

 You can even copy the user profile to different machines running different
 operating systems.
 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/UserProfiles
 All your settings and Extensions and galleries and stuff is stored inside
 your user-profile.  Note that if you have other OpenSOurce programs then
 their settings are stored in the same folder so you will see things like
 ... firefox/ ...
 ... libreoffice/ ...
 ... thunderbird/ ...
 Well, after switching your file-browser to show hidden filesfolders you
 will see them.
 Regards from
 Tom :)

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 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Re: Re: How to migrate OpenOfficec
 Writer settings into LinbreOffice Writer
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Date: Friday, 20 January, 2012, 15:59

 That would be nice. I wonder if there's a settings file hidden somewhere in
 OO that we could simply locate and copy across to LO (appropriate folder)
 and voila, it's done! Of course, BEFORE one uninstalls OpenOffice.


 2012/1/20 Maurice Batey maur...@bcs.org.uk

  On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 14:09:16 +0100, Cor Nouws wrote:
 
   The first time you install LibreOffice with an OOo user profile, that
   will be (mostly) imported.
 
   Yesterday, I installed LO 3.4.5 on another PC here (to replace Open
  Office).
 
  What option in the install mechanism would have caused it to have
  been installed with an OOo user profile, Cor?
 
  It certainly didn't pick up the user's OO templates.
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Unsubscribing from this list

2012-01-20 Thread Tanstaafl

On 2012-01-20 8:25 AM, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote:

Maybe make that link in the footer of each email a real unsubscribe URl,
as we do to help get them subscribed, and not just a link to a help
page.


+5000

Ben asking for that ever since the lists were set up...

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Re: [libreoffice-users] UNSUBSCRIBE

2012-01-20 Thread Tanstaafl

On 2012-01-20 8:32 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

Forums usually allow the hard-core mailing-list fans to subscribe to
one, many or all threads in the forum so the net result would be
about the same for you.  It would just reduce the amount of complex
stuff that less sophisticated users would have to do in order to see
answers to the one-and-only thread they are interested in.


Except that you then have to log into  the forum to respond...

Forums suck for active discussion like this for people who are active in 
many different venues... they are great however for a Help' type of 
repository.


That said, there is no reason we couldn't have both... and one thing I'd 
like to see are official forums that are populated with answers to FAQs 
asked on the lists that people can be referred to if all they want is an 
answer to one specific question...


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Unsubscribing from this list

2012-01-20 Thread Tanstaafl

On 2012-01-20 9:23 AM, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote:

*chuckling*... well I suspect that the sad truth is that even if it is
one click on a URL in the footer of each and every email, to start the
unsubscribe process, there will still be someone that just can't quite
manage.


But I'd wager it would reduce the noise considerably...

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Re: Re: How to migrate OpenOfficec Writer settings into LinbreOffice Writer

2012-01-20 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


I save all my hidden dot folders, like .libreoffice and .mozilla, 
every month or so, and before I update LibreOffice to the next one.  
This is for Ubuntu, but can be done with Windows versions of these 
folders as well.


Actually you should do this for your Mozilla [Firefox and Thunderbird] 
user info folders so you can save all you browser 
setting/site-password/bookmarks/etc and your email account info, address 
book, and non-deleted emails.  This will/could save you a lot of trouble 
down the line.


Any time you do some fixing for LO or OOo, you need to save the 
current user info/account/etc. folders BEFORE you do the work.  This way 
if things go very wrong, you can go back to the original user info to 
try again.  Actually I find removing the .libreoffice for Ubuntu [by 
renaming] or equivalent in other OSs, and then opening LO, it views it 
as a first time use after a clean install.  This does fix a lot of 
pesky things that creep up from time to time, like printer issues.


.
On 01/20/2012 01:13 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Make sure you rename the current profile jic something weird goes wrong!!
Regards from
Tom :)

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Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Re: Re: How to migrate OpenOfficec Writer 
settings into LinbreOffice Writer
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Cc: tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk
Date: Friday, 20 January, 2012, 17:26

Brilliant suggestion, Tom. Many thanks for this advice. I will do this on
all 3 of my machines, all running different OS - XP-Home, Vista 64, Vista
32 Business.

I'm sure to report back once I have done this and tested the result.


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On 20 January 2012 18:15, Tom Daviestomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk  wrote:


Hi :)
Just copypaste or rename the OOo UserProfile from
... openoffice.org/ ...
to
... libreoffice/ ...

You can even copy the user profile to different machines running different
operating systems.
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/UserProfiles
All your settings and Extensions and galleries and stuff is stored inside
your user-profile.  Note that if you have other OpenSOurce programs then
their settings are stored in the same folder so you will see things like
... firefox/ ...
... libreoffice/ ...
... thunderbird/ ...
Well, after switching your file-browser to show hidden filesfolders you
will see them.
Regards from
Tom :)

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From: Ian Samsoniansams...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Re: Re: How to migrate OpenOfficec
Writer settings into LinbreOffice Writer
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Friday, 20 January, 2012, 15:59

That would be nice. I wonder if there's a settings file hidden somewhere in
OO that we could simply locate and copy across to LO (appropriate folder)
and voila, it's done! Of course, BEFORE one uninstalls OpenOffice.


2012/1/20 Maurice Bateymaur...@bcs.org.uk


On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 14:09:16 +0100, Cor Nouws wrote:


The first time you install LibreOffice with an OOo user profile, that
will be (mostly) imported.

   Yesterday, I installed LO 3.4.5 on another PC here (to replace Open
Office).

What option in the install mechanism would have caused it to have
been installed with an OOo user profile, Cor?

It certainly didn't pick up the user's OO templates.
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Re: How to migrate OpenOfficec Writer settings into LibreOffice Writer

2012-01-20 Thread drew
On Fri, 2012-01-20 at 17:52 +, Maurice Batey wrote:
 On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 12:17:03 -0500, Dan Lewis wrote:
 
   When following the path I just gave, there is a section centered
  vertically on the right side of that page labeled: Open/Save dialogs.
 ; in LO, the check box is labeled Use LibreOffice dialogs.
 
   Let me say one more time: That does not appear with the LO 3.4.5.
 installed HERE.
 
 If you say it  appears in yours, then I accept that, but it doesn't
 appear in MY LO 3.4.5 (but does in OpenOffice).  

Howdy Maurice,

hmmm - just installed 3.4.5 (Ubuntu 11.04 AMD64) the option is there.

Which platform are you on again?

Thanks,

//drew



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Re: [libreoffice-users] UNSUBSCRIBE

2012-01-20 Thread drew
On Fri, 2012-01-20 at 13:34 -0500, Tanstaafl wrote:
 On 2012-01-20 8:32 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
  Forums usually allow the hard-core mailing-list fans to subscribe to
  one, many or all threads in the forum so the net result would be
  about the same for you.  It would just reduce the amount of complex
  stuff that less sophisticated users would have to do in order to see
  answers to the one-and-only thread they are interested in.
 
 Except that you then have to log into  the forum to respond...
 
 Forums suck for active discussion like this for people who are active in 
 many different venues... they are great however for a Help' type of 
 repository.
 
 That said, there is no reason we couldn't have both... and one thing I'd 
 like to see are official forums that are populated with answers to FAQs 
 asked on the lists that people can be referred to if all they want is an 
 answer to one specific question...
 


Well, hoping this can put an end to this twist in the thread, and to
save Florian from having to say it.

There is an AskBot web service being readied for service in the very
near future (can't give you a date, as I don't know it), and would
strongly urge people preferring a web forum to give this service a
reasonable try.

I first looked at this type of service sceptically, but I put a fair bit
of time to really look at it and the more I dug into it the more
attractive it became. I'm not saying it will make everyone happy but I
think it deserves very serious consideration.

//drew

ps there is a test instance of the software up, but it seems rather
broken at the moment..so if you don't already have the URL I'll pass on
posting it to this email.





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[libreoffice-users] Re: Re: Re: How to migrate OpenOfficec Writer settings into LibreOffice Writer

2012-01-20 Thread Maurice Batey
On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 13:56:09 -0500, drew wrote:

 just installed 3.4.5 (Ubuntu 11.04 AMD64) the option is there.

  Mandriva 2010.2 32-bit PowerPack, KDE. 

LibreOffice 3.4.5  OOO340m1 (Build:502)  (En-GB)

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Re: [libreoffice-users] UNSUBSCRIBE

2012-01-20 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Hmm, oddly in Launchpad forums you can respond by email.  You get an email from 
the forum and the email contains exactly what was typed into the forum.  Then 
you can respond by email just by clicking Reply to.  

Of course it does have problems of it's own but it's easier for first timers 
that are new to this non-telephone support.  It's more polite and doesn't spam 
people that only wanted to deal with 1 thread.  You can easily add yourself to 
the list of people that receive those emails whenever anyone posts anything to 
the forum.  
Regards from
Tom :)


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From: Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] UNSUBSCRIBE
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Friday, 20 January, 2012, 18:34

On 2012-01-20 8:32 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 Forums usually allow the hard-core mailing-list fans to subscribe to
 one, many or all threads in the forum so the net result would be
 about the same for you.  It would just reduce the amount of complex
 stuff that less sophisticated users would have to do in order to see
 answers to the one-and-only thread they are interested in.

Except that you then have to log into  the forum to respond...

Forums suck for active discussion like this for people who are active in many 
different venues... they are great however for a Help' type of repository.

That said, there is no reason we couldn't have both... and one thing I'd like 
to see are official forums that are populated with answers to FAQs asked on the 
lists that people can be referred to if all they want is an answer to one 
specific question...

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Re: [libreoffice-users] UNSUBSCRIBE

2012-01-20 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Sorry for double-posting yet again :(

This list does have 2 very distinctly different purposes 
1.  as user-support 
2.  as a discussion list
Clearly people are having trouble with this list when they need it for 1 but 
many of us enjoy it for 2.  

Perhaps an official user-support forum at Launchpad could send emails to the 
discussion list?
Regards from
Tom :)



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Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] UNSUBSCRIBE
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Friday, 20 January, 2012, 18:34

On 2012-01-20 8:32 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 Forums usually allow the hard-core mailing-list fans to subscribe to
 one, many or all threads in the forum so the net result would be
 about the same for you.  It would just reduce the amount of complex
 stuff that less sophisticated users would have to do in order to see
 answers to the one-and-only thread they are interested in.

Except that you then have to log into  the forum to respond...

Forums suck for active discussion like this for people who are active in many 
different venues... they are great however for a Help' type of repository.

That said, there is no reason we couldn't have both... and one thing I'd like 
to see are official forums that are populated with answers to FAQs asked on the 
lists that people can be referred to if all they want is an answer to one 
specific question...

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[libreoffice-users] Re: How to migrate OpenOfficec Writer settings into LinbreOffice Writer

2012-01-20 Thread NoOp
On 01/20/2012 07:44 AM, Maurice Batey wrote:
 On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 13:53:54 +, Tom Davies wrote:
 
 Tools - Options - LibreOffice - General
 
 is the right place.
Well, when I said:
 
when I select Tools/Options/General, I do not see
  anything like that...
 
 - it did of course map out - as you say - to Tools - Options -
 LibreOffice - General, which showed the same bunch of options I described
 - none of which bore any resemblance to NoOp's untick Open/Save 'Use LO
 dialogs!  (Can't find that anywhere...)
 
 Are we all using the same version of LO (mine's 3.4.5)?!
 

Yes. Mine is 3.4.5 from http://www.libreoffice.org/download/ - deb files.
LibreOffice 3.4.5
OOO340m1 (Build:502)
Where did you get yours from?

Screenshot here:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/12/screenshotoptionslibreo.png/



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[libreoffice-users] Re: How to migrate OpenOfficec Writer settings into LinbreOffice Writer

2012-01-20 Thread Maurice Batey
On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 13:08:53 +, I wrote:

 Using LO 3.4.5, when I select Tools/Options/General, I do not see
 anything like that - just:
 
 HELP:  Tips, Help Agent, Extended Tips, Reset help Agent
 DOCUMENT STATUS: Printing set, Allow to save doc even if not mod...,
 YEAR: Interpret as years between...
 ENABLE EXPERIMENTAL...
 
  - i.e. no sign of /Open/Save 'Use LO dialog.

 - as can be seen in this photo:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10969499/LO-tools-general.JPG
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Re: How to migrate OpenOfficec Writer settings into LinbreOffice Writer

2012-01-20 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Maurice,

Maurice Batey wrote (20-01-12 16:44)

 Are we all using the same version of LO (mine's 3.4.5)?!

I send you a screenprint (in the cc mail) 3.4.5

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Re: Re: How to migrate OpenOfficec Writer settings into LinbreOffice Writer

2012-01-20 Thread Cor Nouws
Maurice Batey wrote (20-01-12 16:51)
 On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 14:09:16 +0100, Cor Nouws wrote:
 
 The first time you install LibreOffice with an OOo user profile, that
 will be (mostly) imported.
 
Yesterday, I installed LO 3.4.5 on another PC here (to replace Open
 Office).
 
 What option in the install mechanism would have caused it to have
 been installed with an OOo user profile, Cor?

Apologies - I should have written  when there is a OOo user profile on
your system, 

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Unsubscribing from this list

2012-01-20 Thread Jay Lozier

Hi,

On 01/20/2012 08:16 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote:

Hi,

Cor Nouws wrote on 2012-01-20 13:57:


Sadly, yes.
Sorry that this is causing you extra trouble.


no problem, I hope this information can help a bit those who cannot 
unsubscribe.



I always wonder how it can be possible that someone can send a mail to
XX+subscribe@YY and reply to the confirmation mail, but then is not able
to do the same with XX+unsubscribe@YY.
To me, it's just wasting peoples time and fouling our lists. Ah well :-)


Indeed. What's most annoying are those people badly complaining and 
ranting at us, but most people simply do not take the time to read. 
That's what annoys me most. I accept to be blamed when there's a 
malfunction on our side, but when people simply do not want to read, 
it sucks. :)
I think besides not reading the instructions many fail to realize that 
we, the volunteers, should not have access to anyone's credentials to 
protect them, the users. This is a well recognized security procedure to 
limit access to sensitive information to reduce the risk to the data.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: How to migrate OpenOfficec Writer settings into LinbreOffice Writer

2012-01-20 Thread Cor Nouws
Maurice Batey wrote (20-01-12 20:17)

  http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10969499/LO-tools-general.JPG

Hmm, might well be related to KDE or your distribution :-)

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Re: [libreoffice-users] UNSUBSCRIBE

2012-01-20 Thread drew
On Fri, 2012-01-20 at 19:13 +, Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi :)
 Sorry for double-posting yet again :(
 
 This list does have 2 very distinctly different purposes 
 1.  as user-support 
 2.  as a discussion list
 Clearly people are having trouble with this list when they need it for 1 but 
 many of us enjoy it for 2.  

Or you could stop using this list as a general discussion board and use
it for what it was intended, user support.

There is a discussion list for the other - so please try to use the
correct list for the intended purpose - that would go a long, long way
also.

//drew

 
 Perhaps an official user-support forum at Launchpad could send emails to the 
 discussion list?
 Regards from
 Tom :)
 
 
 
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 From: Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] UNSUBSCRIBE
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Date: Friday, 20 January, 2012, 18:34
 
 On 2012-01-20 8:32 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
  Forums usually allow the hard-core mailing-list fans to subscribe to
  one, many or all threads in the forum so the net result would be
  about the same for you.  It would just reduce the amount of complex
  stuff that less sophisticated users would have to do in order to see
  answers to the one-and-only thread they are interested in.
 
 Except that you then have to log into  the forum to respond...
 
 Forums suck for active discussion like this for people who are active in many 
 different venues... they are great however for a Help' type of repository.
 
 That said, there is no reason we couldn't have both... and one thing I'd like 
 to see are official forums that are populated with answers to FAQs asked on 
 the lists that people can be referred to if all they want is an answer to one 
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[libreoffice-users] Re: Unsubscribing from this list

2012-01-20 Thread NoOp
On 01/20/2012 06:12 AM, Pedro wrote:
 
 drewjensen wrote
 
 Well, maybe some of it is that we are more then happy to make it dead
 simple (one click on a web page) to get them subscribed... they don't
 really have to read or understand much of anything. But if you want to
 leave..different story - then we say- on your own buddy, or What you
 can't read or Man are you stupid.
 
 Maybe make that link in the footer of each email a real unsubscribe URl,
 as we do to help get them subscribed, and not just a link to a help
 page. 
 
 
 +1
 
 If there are complains from people on getting out (and they obviously
 managed to get in), it seems to me that the two processes aren't equally
 simple.
 
 Again, why isn't there a simple link to unsubscribe in each messages footer
 instead of a link to Instructions on how to unsubscribe? It takes only two
 clicks to subscribe and reading a whole page of instructions to unsubscribe.
 
 Try to find this link in the instructions page:
 users+unsubscribe(AT)global.libreoffice.org
...
http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/
quote
Mailing lists: The user support mailing list address is our main channel
for LibreOffice users needing help with a problem:
users@global.libreoffice.org. You need to subscribe to the list first
before you can post a question. To do that, just send an empty message
(no subject line, no message body) to
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to you immediately (check for new mail, and check your spam/bulk mail
folder just in case). For information about our other mailing lists,
please visit the global mailing list index. For detailed instructions
about unsubscribing from a mailing list, please click here.
/quote

Clicking 'please click here' links to:
http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/

On the http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/ page:
quote
Information on how to unsubscribe from a list is sent to you in the
confirmation e-mail, and is also added to the footer of every message
posted. (If you need detailed instructions about unsubscribing from a
mailing list, please click here.)
/quote

Clicking 'please click here' links to:
http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/

So I'm not sure what else can be done.



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Unsubscribing from this list

2012-01-20 Thread Pedro

NoOp wrote
 
 So I'm not sure what else can be done.
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Simple! Just replace the link to the *instructions* e-mail for a link to the
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Unsubscribing from this list

2012-01-20 Thread drew
On Fri, 2012-01-20 at 11:51 -0800, NoOp wrote:
 On 01/20/2012 11:48 AM, NoOp wrote:
  On 01/20/2012 06:12 AM, Pedro wrote:
  
  drewjensen wrote
  
  Well, maybe some of it is that we are more then happy to make it dead
  simple (one click on a web page) to get them subscribed... they don't
  really have to read or understand much of anything. But if you want to
  leave..different story - then we say- on your own buddy, or What you
  can't read or Man are you stupid.
  
  Maybe make that link in the footer of each email a real unsubscribe URl,
  as we do to help get them subscribed, and not just a link to a help
  page. 
  
  
  +1
  
  If there are complains from people on getting out (and they obviously
  managed to get in), it seems to me that the two processes aren't equally
  simple.
  
  Again, why isn't there a simple link to unsubscribe in each messages footer
  instead of a link to Instructions on how to unsubscribe? It takes only two
  clicks to subscribe and reading a whole page of instructions to 
  unsubscribe.
  
  Try to find this link in the instructions page:
  users+unsubscribe(AT)global.libreoffice.org
  
  http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/
  quote
  Mailing lists: The user support mailing list address is our main channel
  for LibreOffice users needing help with a problem:
  users@global.libreoffice.org. You need to subscribe to the list first
  before you can post a question. To do that, just send an empty message
  (no subject line, no message body) to
  users+subscr...@global.libreoffice.org. Instructions will be mailed back
  to you immediately (check for new mail, and check your spam/bulk mail
  folder just in case). For information about our other mailing lists,
  please visit the global mailing list index. For detailed instructions
  about unsubscribing from a mailing list, please click here.
  /quote
  
  Clicking 'please click here' links to:
  http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
  
  On the http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/ page:
  quote
  Information on how to unsubscribe from a list is sent to you in the
  confirmation e-mail, and is also added to the footer of every message
  posted. (If you need detailed instructions about unsubscribing from a
  mailing list, please click here.)
  /quote
  
  Clicking 'please click here' links to:
  http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/
 
 Sorry, forgot to add that this is on the instruction page:
 quote
 Send the unsubscription request
 
 If you want to unsubscribe from the users@global.libreoffice.org mailing
 list (our user support list), for example, send an e-mail message to
 users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org (if you were subscribed in
 standard mode) or to users+unsubscribe-dig...@global.libreoffice.org (if
 you were subscribed in digest mode).
 /quote
 

Right - and Florian addressed this earlier today.

At one point the email footer did include the unsubscribe URl for
standard subscriptions - but since it didn't unsubcribe those with
digest subscriptions and some complained it was dropped.

However - there is a planned upgrade to the list management software and
with that there will no longer be separate commands for normal /
digest / no-mail options - the one unsubscribe will suffice, so at that
point it, IMO, makes sense to put the actual command URl back into the
mail footer.

//drew


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[libreoffice-users] Too noisy

2012-01-20 Thread Onyeibo Oku
Ok ... With the recent rants on subscribing and unsubscribing to this list, I 
think its time I explore some options.  Does this list support digests?
-
from twohot@device.mobile :)

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Too noisy

2012-01-20 Thread drew
On Fri, 2012-01-20 at 20:14 +, Onyeibo Oku wrote:
 Ok ... With the recent rants on subscribing and unsubscribing to this list, I 
 think its time I explore some options.  Does this list support digests?
 -
 from twohot@device.mobile :)

yup - see:
http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/




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Re: [libreoffice-users] UNSUBSCRIBE

2012-01-20 Thread Tom Davies
HI :)
Ahh, you mean use it for what it's rubbish at and don't use it for the thing it 
is good at.  Great plan!
Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Fri, 20/1/12, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote:

From: drew d...@baseanswers.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] UNSUBSCRIBE
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Friday, 20 January, 2012, 19:32

On Fri, 2012-01-20 at 19:13 +, Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi :)
 Sorry for double-posting yet again :(
 
 This list does have 2 very distinctly different purposes 
 1.  as user-support 
 2.  as a discussion list
 Clearly people are having trouble with this list when they need it for 1 but 
 many of us enjoy it for 2.  

Or you could stop using this list as a general discussion board and use
it for what it was intended, user support.

There is a discussion list for the other - so please try to use the
correct list for the intended purpose - that would go a long, long way
also.

//drew

 
 Perhaps an official user-support forum at Launchpad could send emails to the 
 discussion list?
 Regards from
 Tom :)
 
 
 
 --- On Fri, 20/1/12, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
 
 From: Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] UNSUBSCRIBE
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Date: Friday, 20 January, 2012, 18:34
 
 On 2012-01-20 8:32 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
  Forums usually allow the hard-core mailing-list fans to subscribe to
  one, many or all threads in the forum so the net result would be
  about the same for you.  It would just reduce the amount of complex
  stuff that less sophisticated users would have to do in order to see
  answers to the one-and-only thread they are interested in.
 
 Except that you then have to log into  the forum to respond...
 
 Forums suck for active discussion like this for people who are active in many 
 different venues... they are great however for a Help' type of repository.
 
 That said, there is no reason we couldn't have both... and one thing I'd like 
 to see are official forums that are populated with answers to FAQs asked on 
 the lists that people can be referred to if all they want is an answer to one 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Unsubscribing from this list

2012-01-20 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


I have several email address.
One I use for e-newsletters, another for email lists like this one, 
while others for other specific things, etc.

So I do not need to do forwarding.

Are they forwarding the emails since they do not want their regular 
email address available through list services like this one?  The 
solution is to go to other services, such as Gmail, Yahoo Mail, etc., 
etc..  It is always good to have a few throw away email accounts and 
use one for email lists.


That is just my opinion.

On 01/20/2012 04:04 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Sadly that was tried but many people use 1 email address for subscribing and then forwards mail from that to another one and read it there so the unsubscribe email address wouldn't act on the right address. 
Regards from

Tom :)


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snip /

Simple! Just replace the link to the *instructions* e-mail for a link to the
actual *unsubscribe* e-mail.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: How to enter Dates in a format to allow the counting of days lapsed between a from a date cell and a to a date' cell

2012-01-20 Thread jorge
Hi:

You only have to input like this example:

in cell A1 : 10/12/2011
in cell B1 : 12/12/2011
in cell C1 : +B1-A1 --- Result = 2 in cell C1

Regards,

Jorge Rodríguez
___

El jue, 19-01-2012 a las 08:25 -0800, Tom escribió:
 Hi :)
 I think you are not fully subscribed to the list yet.  Is there a
 confirmation email waiting in your spam/junk folder?
 
 Don't you just format the cells as Dates rather than numbers or text and
 then just do one cell - the other and have the answer cell formatted as date
 too?
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[libreoffice-users] Password protected files in LibreOffice 3.4.5

2012-01-20 Thread joerg.henning
Hello,

I'm running LibO 3.4.5. on Xubuntu 11.10, 64bit (installed from LibreOffice
PPA) and I'm having trouble with password protected files:

I have a .ods file that was password protected before, and I cannot open it
with the password. Password is correct, I tried the same thing with an older
version of LibO on Windows (3.4.4 I think), it worked fine.

Trying to create a new document with password protection (tested with just
an empty sheet) also fails with a 'General I/O Error'. Saving files without
password works ok.

I'm new here, so I'm not sure what to do about this. Seems to be a bug for
me, so should I post this to the bugtracker? Or is this a known issue
already?

Any help appreciated,

Joerg

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Password protected files in LibreOffice 3.4.5

2012-01-20 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi Joerg,

joerg.henning wrote (21-01-12 07:01)


I'm running LibO 3.4.5. on Xubuntu 11.10, 64bit (installed from LibreOffice
PPA) and I'm having trouble with password protected files:


Maybe the 3.4.5 ppa is not the final LibreOffice 3.4.5 ?
It should be build 502 (in the Help  About box)

There have been changes with encryption in 3.4.5 and 3.5.0 beta/rc1.

http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/3.5#General_-_encryption_changed

But you are (should be) able to open files saved with password in 3.4.4 
(and before) in 3.4.5 and 3.5.0.
Also are (you should) be able to open files saved with encryption in 
3.5.0 in 3.4.5.
Only thing is that you cannot open files saved with password in 3.5.0 
(and later) in 3.4.4 and earlier. 3.4.5 is the intermediate version.


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[libreoffice-users] question about search replace

2012-01-20 Thread jc sekinger

hello
I can't find the answer
I would like to transforme each {{word}} or {{phrase}} (wich I can 
select with '\{{[^\}]+\}}')

in word or phrase in italic and without {{}}

How can I do that?... Help!
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[libreoffice-users] Re: Unsubscribing from this list

2012-01-20 Thread Harold Fuchs


Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com wrote in message 
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On Fri, 2012-01-20 at 09:23 -0500, drew wrote:

On Fri, 2012-01-20 at 14:32 +0100, Cor Nouws wrote:
 drew wrote (20-01-12 14:25)

  Well, maybe some of it is that we are more then happy to make it dead
  simple (one click on a web page) to get them subscribed...

 Ah, do we offer so much service :-)
 Then indeed we should do the same for un-subscribing. (Or make
 subscribing 'difficult')

*chuckling*... well I suspect that the sad truth is that even if it is
one click on a URL in the footer of each and every email, to start the
unsubscribe process, there will still be someone that just can't quite
manage.
   - Cor
   - http://nl.libreoffice.org


   After just reading the instructions on how to unsubscribe from this
list, it seems that it is made far too complex. Having
To unsubscribe click: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org
in the footer of emails. (Surprise to some, but some html emails will
not have this header and I don't know why.) Still we would still have to
remind some to reply to the confirmation email they were sent by the
mailing list.

Unsubscribing by clicking a link in an e-mail assumes the person receives 
HTML mail. Some force text only in which case the link won't work.


Others *send* text only so perhaps the Unsubscribe instruction doesn't get 
included (???) but, even if it does, it won't be clickable.


There have even been people who make great contributions to this list who 
complain about HTML e-mail.


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