Re: Destroyed document - please help!

2019-04-30 Thread jonathon
On 4/29/19 8:40 PM, ramin mojrian wrote:

> Excuse i have some problems with setting of open office!
> 1: i made a password on a document but now i forgot it! How can i recover it!

https://libreoffice-environment.blogspot.com/2015/03/libreoffice-apache-openoffice-password.html

> 2: i have a form that has 98 pages but in the bottom of all pages wroten
> page 1 of 98! How can i change the page numbers in  respectively?

Delete the "1", and then ">Insert >Page Number" at the appropriate place
on the second page. The correct page number should appear on every page.

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Re: DataMystic

2019-04-14 Thread jonathon
On 4/14/19 12:17 AM, Bill Lawry wrote:

> Subject company offers ''Search and Replace for Open Office documents'
> but listed product (TextPipe) doesn't download.
> 
> A visit to their website shows it's for sale at $169 up to $699 !
> 
> I have no problem with American Enterprise or even American Greed but
> having a for-profit apparently advertising a free add-on (no $ price on the
> Apache Extensions) page seems incongruous.
> 
> Do they offer a  free or reasonably priced extension for Calc?

>From looking at their website,I'd suggest that it is not an extension,
but a stand alone product that might be able to open ODF files. (If it
is not an AOo extension, it would be neither the first, nor only company
to make false claims about being an extension for AOo.)

I'd suggest installing Alt-Search.
https://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/alternative-dialog-find-replace-writer-altsearch

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Re: Help with a download. Thanks.

2019-04-01 Thread jonathon
On 4/1/19 7:17 PM, Barry wrote:
>I am trying to install Apache OpenOffice on my new HP computer but I am having 
>problems.

What operating system are using?
What version of that operating system are you using?
What edition of that version of that operating system are you using?
What locale for that operation system are you using?

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Re: How do I open a document when I forgot the password?

2019-03-30 Thread jonathon
On 3/25/19 12:44 PM, Martin Groenescheij wrote:

>> How do I open a document I forgot the password to?
> The same as you open your safe when you forgot the code.

In most cities around the world, one can find a locksmith that
specialises in opening safes.

LibreOffice 3.4.4 and lower uses Blowfish algorithm;
LibreOffice 3.4.5 and higher uses AES-256;

As far as I know, the only way to decrypt AES-256, when the password is
unknown, is brute force.

My now out of date blog on the topic can be found
https://libreoffice-environment.blogspot.com/2015/03/libreoffice-apache-openoffice-password.html

>>   It will not let me make a new copy. The instructions are to open the
>> document and save a copy of it to begin editing it. But, I cannot do
>> that the document will not open without a password. I cannot save a
>> new copy it has to be open before I can save and rename it.
> 
> 
> If it is that easy what is the benefit of having a password set anyway?

Maybe the user pulled that stunt of hand-editing "protected = true". No
password being used.  If that is the case, then the fix is another hand
edit.

It is a stupid hack, that fails far more often that it works, but when
it works

Probably its best use, is as an April Fools Day prank.


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Re: zh_PINYIN

2019-03-05 Thread jonathon
On 3/1/19 1:53 PM, Keith N. McKenna wrote:
> for Enhancement. zh-PINYIN is the International Standards Organization (ISO) 
> language code for the System of Romanization of the Chinese (Han
> Dialect) Language.

Zh is part of an ISO standard.

PINYIN is not part of an ISO standard, but is commonly used by those who
provided text in both Pinyin and either Traditional Chinese or
Simplified Chinese.

zh_PINYIN is used for Chinese written in Romanov_Pinyin, or the
transliteration of Chinese into the Latin writing system.

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zh_PINYIN

2019-02-28 Thread jonathon
All:

What do I have to configure, for Apache OpenOffice to recognize
dictionaries and grammar checkers for zh_PINYIN?

Is it a case of having to submit an RFE for explicit support for zh_PINYIN?

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Re: Project management

2019-01-09 Thread jonathon
On 1/8/19 5:04 PM, Roel Ocampo wrote:

> Do you have a program similar to Microsoft Project?

Not really.

There are a couple of templates that provide aspects of Project
Management.

Dig into the following URLs, and you might find something useful for
your specific scenario:
*
https://extensions.libreoffice.org/@@search?SearchableText=project+management
* https://templates.openoffice.org/en/search?query=project+management

I ended up creating my own set of around 100 Project Management
Templates. For various reasons, they can not be publicly distributed.
Some of them even generate the same type of pretty picture that
Microsoft Project generates.

Little known fact. Gantt charts were originally devised to present
management with pretty pictures. They were not used to show where the
project was going, but rather, where it has been.

Despite the plethora of project management tools, most projects are
either terminated in mid-stream, or come in over-budget,late, and
lacking specific criteria that were in the original specifications.

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Re: Mac compatibility

2018-11-13 Thread jonathon
On 11/13/18 6:04 PM, Dave AOO wrote:

> I have seen this and similar comments on AOO lists before and I am genuinely 
> interested to find out what these "things" are.

I'm very slowly working on a document describing the differences between
the various versions of LibO & AOo.  I might also include EO, and NO.

> A couple of examples or pointers might help me get a better understanding.

Right off the bat, special character input in AOo allows words, and even
entire sentences to be entered in one swoop. LibO will only do glyph by
glyph insertion. The practical effect that for combining characters,
LibO requires at least twice as many keystrokes, and, for some obscure
glyphs in obscrube writing systems, up to five times as many keystrokes.

The more significant difference is with the extensions and templates one
uses. I don't have a current list of which extensions work better with
which product. N-Gram grammar checking was slightly faster with AOo,
than with LibO, using the same document.

The OOo-SVN extension worked with early versions of AOo. I never managed
to get it to work with LibO.

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Re: HELP!

2017-11-29 Thread jonathon
On 11/29/2017 03:32 AM, mj weddingsofgeorgia.com wrote:

> I need SOMEONE to HELP me -- this document has imperative information in it 
> and I have sat here in tears for hours trying to fix it. 

How do you archive/backup your system?
How frequently do you archive/backup your system?
Where do you store the archives/backups?

> I NEED SOMEONE TO HELP ME RECOVER THIS FILE!!! 

I'll suggest that at this stage of the game, your only hope of being
able to recover the document, is to utilise the services of a firm that
specialises in forensic data recovery. The last time I priced these
services was almost a decade ago, but back then, US$100,000 was the
minimum charge, and the typical charge was a couple of orders of
magnitude higher.

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Re: There is a problem with the shared '/usr/bin/soffice' between Libreoffice and OpenOffice.

2017-11-20 Thread jonathon
On 11/19/2017 09:55 PM, Wroger Wroger wrote:
> /var/cache/apt/archives/libreoffice-common_1%3a5.1.6~rc2-0ubuntu1~xenial2_all.deb:

That tells me that you are using the version from Ubuntu. For at least
the last decade, Ubuntu has added its own plethora of bugs to the
software found in its repositories.

FWIW, Ubuntu is not the only distro that sees adding bugs to the
software it distributes is a virtue to be admired, and replicated as
often as possible.

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Re: Question about security

2017-11-07 Thread jonathon


On 11/07/2017 12:18 PM, ergonomic.code wrote:
> Why OpenOffice needs to access these programs?

Which programs?

> In the screenshot I have that removal.

Attachments are automatically stripped from messages sent to this list.

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Re: Template Links give 'Page Not Found'

2017-11-07 Thread jonathon
On 11/07/2017 05:56 AM, Richard Sussman M.D. wrote:
> every link I have clicked on resulted in  a "page not found" error. 

In your browser, check the following:
* Are scripts allowed?
* Are the security certificates acceptable?
* Is handing off to other domains allowed?

IF the answer to any of those is "no", then the issue is with your
browser configuration.

> Screen capture of relevant pages are attached.

Attachments are automatically rejected by the mailing list software used
here.

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Re: [AOO-Templates]

2017-11-03 Thread jonathon
On 11/03/2017 06:18 PM, Nadine Savoy wrote:

> Hello, I just paid for my 14 days for $0.95 and I cannot access my resume it 
> keep sending me to the payment page and the payment has already gone through 
> my bank.

Whilst the majority of templates distributed via the AOo repistory are
gratis, there are some that must be paid for, and thus linked to a third
party site. Issues with those templates can only be resolved by going to
the third party vendor in question.

Thus,
a) Who did you make the payment to?
b) What is the URL of the site that you made the payment at?
will point you to the questionable third party vendor in question.

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Re: Quickbooks to spread sheet

2017-10-20 Thread jonathon
On 10/19/2017 08:22 PM, Ardy Kellie wrote:

> My previous export of my reports from QB was to Excel. 

In theory, you can export the Quickbooks data as CSV files, and then
import them into AOo.

I can't find it, but there used to be a Calc extension that could read
either Quicken, or Quickbooks files.

Finally, there is a commercially distributed QODB driver, that appears
to play nicely with AOo. This driver should enable you to use the
QuickBooks database from within Calc.

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Re: Value

2017-09-19 Thread jonathon
On 09/18/2017 12:51 PM, James Knott wrote:
> On 09/18/2017 06:18 AM, Rory O'Farrell wrote:
>> It runs on all versions of Windows.
> 
> 3.1?  ;-)

That depends upon which version of which DOS clone one uses.

I don't know if it was ever publicly released, but Novel did beta test a
version of DrDOS that, when run with either WFWG or Win 3.0, gave the
setup the functional equivalent to Windows 95.

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Re: Looking for extention English GB

2017-09-07 Thread jonathon
On 09/07/2017 02:38 AM, zahra a wrote:

> for example: if you install english uk version of openoffice, it
> installs spell checker by default and you dont need to download separately.

The English spell checker extension is updated quarterly. As such,
installing the updated version is probably a useful task.

https://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/english-dictionaries-apache-openoffice

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Re: Arabic right to left but to down or to top ?

2017-08-17 Thread jonathon
On 08/16/2017 12:48 PM, fulgor fulgor wrote:

> Quest about arabic
> Arabic right to left but to down or to top ?

I don't understand your question.

Which of the following are you wanting to do:

* Right to left, top to bottom: Standard Arabic;
* Right to left: bottom to top;
* Top to bottom: each column is a single glyph;
* Bottom to top: each column is a single glyph;
* Left to Right, top to bottom: Afrikaans was occasionally written this way;
* Left to Right, bottom to top;
* Something else;

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Re: hello

2017-08-17 Thread jonathon
On 08/16/2017 11:27 AM, hello, wrote:

> Please i have a PDF file that i saved on my Desktop and i am trying to open 
> it with Openoffice 4.1.3 but he

Assuming you originally created with either OpenOffice.org, or one of
its immediate descendent, then:

* Open Apache Open Office;
* Start a new document;
* Open the PDF with a PDF reader;
* Select the entire text of the PDF;
* Copy it to the clipboard;
* Paste it in your new document;

With most PDF readers, the following usually works for cut and paste:
* CTRL A
* CTRL C
and in AOo
* CTRL V

Then walk through your document, adding the appropriate styles in the
appropriate places.

###

I don't remember if AOo has the ability to include the original ODF
document in the PDFor not. LibreOffice does offer that option.

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Re: reveal codes

2017-08-09 Thread jonathon
On 08/09/2017 07:48 PM, Stephen Nichols wrote:

> 2)  I absolutely LOVE the “reveal codes” function of WP.
> But … Why can’t/won't OpenOffice add a similar feature?

What problem do you think "Reveal Codes" solves.

I mean something other the fact that the developers of WP couldn't write
bug free code. (Reveal Codes was a quick fix to enable users to fix the
presentation markup errors that Wp put into their documents, due to bad
coding in their software.)

Robert wrote:

>Many people have said that it's impossible. A couple of people have
worked on macros that demonstrate that it is possible

Not impossible, but crafting either internal code, or an extension to
display "Reveal Codes" per se, is probably a waste of programmer resources.

Johnny wrote:

>I think someone built an add-on for this many years ago, but I'm not sure

I used an add-on with OOo 1.1.3-ZA Write, and a different add-on for OOo
1.1.3 Calc.

IIRC, Ian's macro didn't provide editing functionality.

###

If one configures the stylist side-bar, and formatting tool bar
appropriately, one can get virtually all of the functionality of Reveal
Codes.

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Re: templates

2016-12-25 Thread jonathon


On 25 December 2016 4:33:10 AM GMT-08:00, Pete Moyes  wrote:
>I have continuing problems getting access to the downloadable templates,

What is the specific URL for the templates you are trying to obtain?

jonathon
-- 
ODF in a Multilingual environment

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Re: [AOO-Templates]

2016-10-24 Thread jonathon
On 21/10/2016 08:47, Karen Hewson wrote:

> I tried to download this template, which is stated to be free, and the

Version 2.0 can be downloaded from http://openofficeapps.weebly.com/.

I don't know why 1.3 isn't available from the AOO template repository.

Three caveats:

1: 2.0 is in German.  If you use a different locale, things might not
work as expected. (Blame _Lotus Development Corporation_ for that piece
of programming stupidity.)

2: I haven't played with 2.0, so i don't know if it really works as
advertised.

3: With one blatantly obvious exception, I do not recommend downloading
extensions, or templates, from sites other than those of developers of a
descendent of StarOffice. This specific template --- cBrainPower falls
into that category.)

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Selling

2015-05-10 Thread jonathon
On 09/05/15 09:49, daz scull wrote:

 Thought id give you heads up anyway as it seems they are trying to
cash in on your hard work! :-(

Apache Open Office is distributed under the Apache License 2.0.
LibreOffice is distributed under the Mozilla Public License 2.0.

Both licenses (ALv2, MPL 2.0) are considered to be Free, Libre, Open
Source Licenses. Neither license prohibits commercial distribution by
third parties.

Consequently, there are organizations that:
* sell CDs/DVDs through retail outlets in both meatspace and cyberspace;
* charge for downloading the program from either their website, or from
SourceForge, or from the LibreOffice Website, or from the Apache Open
Office Website;
* charge a per seat license fee, ostensibly for support services;

How much you pay has no bearing on the amount, or type of support you
receive:
* I've seen CD vendors charge $0.99 which includes one hour of telephone
support;
* I've seen CD vendors charge $500.00 and provide no support at all;

jonathon

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Re: 100% money-back quaranteed use

2015-05-05 Thread jonathon
On 05/05/15 17:00, Herman Moorman wrote:

 All files gives defects with Microsoftboth to and from.

If you file a bug report, those incompatibilities might be fixed.
If those defects are not artefacts of the MSO file format, of which
there are a number of known examples, they can be fixed.
The major exception is whether something that conforms to the file
format standards, specifications, and criteria, as issued by Microsoft,
should be changed from what they say, to what Microsoft does.

 I would therefore like to take this: 100% money-back guaranteed use.

In as much as Apache OpenOffice is offered gratis by The Apache
Foundation, any 100% money-back guarantee would be, under United States
law, advertising puffery. This advertising puffery exemption exists
for The Apache Foundation, precisely because they distribute their
products gratis. If goods are gratis, there is no money to be refunded,
and hence any money-back guarantee is an obvious and blatant exaggeration.

 For the OpenOffice software as for the ordered CD (total of €
 29.95+14.95=44,90)
 (CD never received)

Take that up with the vendor of the CD, which was neither Apache
OpenOffice, nor The Apache Foundation.

 *Please books, as you promise, the money back asap to our account NL82
 RABO 0117733687*

Take that up with the vendor of the books, which was neither Apache
OpenOffice, nor The Apache Foundation.

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Re: Can't open OpenOffice

2015-04-06 Thread jonathon
On 05/04/15 23:11, Martin Groenescheij wrote:

 Google Chrome downloaded this file today at 1:14 PM from
 sourceforge.net.
 Where did you download it from???
 @jd1008: Just cast your eyes one line above your question.

I suspect that jd1008 was wanting the full URL.

And to be pedantic, I'll point out that there are at least three
projects on sourceforge, that provide an office suite whose code can be
traced back to StarOffice, and whose moniker includes Openoffice.

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Re: word Perfect file documents

2015-04-06 Thread jonathon
On 06/04/15 04:08, Ralph Manns wrote:
 At that time I could still use and convert my WordPerfect files.

Apache OpenOffice does not read/write/edit WordPerfect file formats.

libreOffice can read/write/edit most WordPerfect file formats.

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Re: HELP!!!

2015-03-26 Thread jonathon
On 26/03/15 17:00, Phil Fitzpatrick wrote:
 How do I speak to a REAL person at this company so I can get some REAL help?

ApacheCon 2015 is being held at Hyatt-Austin, in Austin, Texas, 13 - 17
April, 2015.
Conference registration can be done over the web at
http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apachecon-north-america



But I suspect that what you mean, is where you can get support for
Apache Open Office, either over the phone, or in person.

If so, then start with the organizations and individuals listed at
http://www.openoffice.org/bizdev/consultants.html
or
http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/professional-support/
Vendors listed on either the LibreOffice or Apache OpenOffice page,
should be able to provide the same degree of support for both programs.

There are an unknown number of additional vendors of paid support, but
do not advertize that fact. Typically, these vendors work within a small
geographic area --- maybe as large as the county in which the
organization is located in.

What that paid support includes, is all over the map:
* Instruction only;
* Fixing one document only;
* Phone only;
* email only;
* Phone  email;
* In-person;
* Phone, email, in-person;
* Fixing minor bugs;
* Fixing major bugs;
* Rewriting the software to do what you want it to do;

How the cost of the paid support is calculated, is all over the map:
* Flat rate: US$1,000 per incident;
* Flat rate: US$5,000 per hour or part thereof;
* Flat rate: US$40,000 per year;
* US$50 per person, with in minimum of χ people. (I don't know if the
firm that provided support on that basis is still in business.);

The cost of the paid support is also all over the map:
* US$30 per hour is the lowest per hour rate I've seen;
* US$5,000 is the highest per hour rate I've seen;

The bigger firms target the SMB market.
The smaller firms tend to target the SOHO market.
AFAIK, the only firm that specifically targeted the consumer market is
now out of business. (I'm ignoring the firms that provided support to
individuals, as long as the government was picking up the tab, here.)

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Re: Mystery messages

2015-03-26 Thread jonathon
On 26/03/15 14:45, Jim McLaughlin wrote:

 As others have commented with respect to Yahoo, the chances of Google being
 off line that often are slim to none, and slim doesn't count.

You'd be surprised at how often the various email service providers
bounce each other's email as undeliverable.
(Both Google and Yahoo have publicly available and distributed lists of
IP4 and IP6 addresses used exclusively for email, for white-listing by
each other, and other organizations.)

 It is yet another bug in the OO universe.

If the mailing list manager software doesn't include in all of the
headers, and other things that Google, Yahoo and the others
expect/want/demand/require, then it is a bug in the OO Universe.
If it does include all of those things, then it is just the normal and
usual behaviour of the major email service providers, when talking to
non-major email service providers.

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Re: Remove password

2015-03-24 Thread jonathon
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* Throwing more hardware at the password;

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Re: Question about Open Office

2015-03-15 Thread jonathon
On 15/03/15 03:27, James Knott wrote:

 No, nothing wrong with it.  They're selling a CD at nominal cost, 

a) They claim the product is distributed under the GPL  LGPL;

b) They claim to be an authorized community distributor of this
software. http://www.openoffice.org/distribution/cdrom/ explains why
that claim is misleading;

c) They claim it runs on Windows 2000. That platform is not officially
supported by Apache OpenOffice;

d) Quoting them OpenOffice.org and the OpenOffice.org logo are
trademarks or registered trademarks of Sun Microsystems, Inc. in the
United States and other countries;

They definitely need to update their templates.

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Re: Fwd: Aanbieding: Office Pakket

2015-03-02 Thread jonathon
On 02/03/15 20:30, B. de Lange wrote:
 You can download Open Office free of cost and without malware from the Dutch 
 website of Apache Open Office.

My point was that the email implied that the office suite could be
obtained for the iOS platform from the URL within it. That availability
might persuade somebody to visit that URL. Obviously they will be
disappointed, but that is a slightly different issue.

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Re: Fwd: Aanbieding: Office Pakket

2015-02-28 Thread jonathon
On 28/02/15 21:54, jd1008 wrote:
 Why would the OP want to go to
 http://www.officebestellen.nl/

The email implies that it is available for iOS.
That might entice somebody to go there.

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Re: .pub files

2015-02-20 Thread jonathon
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On 20/02/15 23:21, Fred wrote:

 How do I open .pub publisher files?


In order of reliability, open, and then export to another file format using:
* Microsoft Publisher;
* Zamzar;
* LibreOffice;

Apache OpenOffice does not have built in support for Publisher file
formats, and, AFAIK, that convertor has not yet been packaged as an
extension.

jonathon
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Re: need help with a problem

2015-02-20 Thread jonathon
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On 19/02/15 15:27, Mary Ann Scholl wrote:

 I have IMac computer OSX 10.9.5, and I have OpenOffice on it.
 I have had this problem for a long time. It freezes up on me,

How large are the documents you are working on?
How complex are the documents you are working on?
How much RAM do you have on your system?
What other software are you running?

 Also I would love to have telephone number to call someone at OpenOffice

Phone support is only available from third parties:
* Some of those vendors offer per incident support. You call them, and
they either charge by the minute, or a flat rate for the entire phone call;
* Some of those vendors offer time-limited contracts. Pay upfront, and
if it can be solved by talking you through the process, via phone, or
video-phone, they will do so;
* Some of those vendors offer time-limited contracts, that include
rewriting the code to fix any issues that they can not solve by talking
you through the process;
* Some of those vendors include face-to-face support, as an option;

Rates for these services depend upon where the vendor is located, and
the specific support options they offer.


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Re: odt-file, ascii filter, series of pounds

2015-02-18 Thread jonathon
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On 17/02/15 16:19, tom cuypers wrote:

 I've received some other answers that convince me my specific problem is 
 unsolvable so it's no use answering your questions.


I trust that you understand that you _FAILED_ to provide enough data for
anybody to even begin to look for a solution to your alleged problem.

I deliberately use the word alleged, because everything you provided
points to PEBKAC.

Start with your complete failure to describe your specific problem, and
end up with your refusal to answer basic diagnostic questions.

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Re: Way of reporting nastiness in your forum?

2015-01-21 Thread jonathon
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On 21/01/15 05:50, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote:

 People who want to write the XLSX format are likely to not understand
why he might feel so strongly about it.

This is one of those complex issues, that usually has people talking
past one another, totally ignoring what the other is saying,
constructing straw-men to further mis-communicate their ideas, as part
of their process of maximizing non-communication.

 Hagar indicated that it will never be able to cope with OOXML. Not sure if 
 that is true,

Compatibility depends upon how much loss one is willing to undergo, with
respect to:
* Content;
* Presentation Markup;
* Semantic Markup;
* Other types of Markup;

Rephrased:
a) Willing to lose everything but content;
b) Willing to lose everything but content and presentation markup;
c) Unwilling to lose content, presentation markup, semantic markup, or
other types of markup;

A not so minor issue is that the MSO *x file formats, and OOXML file
formats are two dissimilar file formats, that, at first glance, appear
to be identical.

IOW, even if AOO has perfect OOXML file format compatibility, it means
squat, in terms of MSO *x file format compatibility.

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Re: Way of reporting nastiness in your forum?

2015-01-21 Thread jonathon
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On 22/01/15 01:08, Urmas wrote:

 So, now you're trying to lock-in LO users in ODF format? Priceless.

There are users of LibO that are convinced that they have a version of
MSO on their system.  Usually what has happened, is that their local
repair shop installed LibO, then reconfigured it as much as possible to
the usual MSO defaults, and told the person that it was MSO. In some
instances, they also install expected VBA runtime framework. (If it
isn't VBA, it is whatever macro programming language MSO uses.)

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Re: Help!

2015-01-01 Thread jonathon
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On 31/12/14 23:43, Johnny Rosenberg wrote:

 The OP said ”or pay for Windows”. I took it that the OP doesn't use Windows 
 now.

I took that the OP was going to upgrade their edition of Windows.

There is a version of Windows that is gratis, but it is extremely
limited in what it can do. The upgrade path is SAAS, with various price
points, and functionality/capabilities.

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Re: Fonts

2014-12-22 Thread jonathon


On 22/12/14 15:01, Jamie Prevosk wrote:
 Is a font available that simulates handwriting. I

Yes, but they are not included in either OpenOffice.org, nor Apache Open
Office, nor EUroOffice, Nor LibreOffice.

The pertinent issues are:
* How much are you willing to spend for the font;
* How close to actual handwriting does it have to be;
* How high a quality of font are you looking for;

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Re: I Need Help

2014-12-11 Thread jonathon



On 08/12/14 05:11, Brian Barker wrote:


Odds are, it is a language dictionary mismatch. What dictionaries are
installed? What language does Apache OpenOffice think that the
document is written in?


For what it's worth, this is surely not true?


When the language detection routine misfires, everything is flagged as a 
spelling error.


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Re: I Need Help

2014-12-07 Thread jonathon


On 06/12/14 20:20, smithphillip wrote:
 I have updated open Office to the current 4.1 version and now all words in a 
 document are underlined as spelt wrong, alternatives are not offered.

Odds are, it is a language dictionary mismatch.

What dictionaries are installed?
What language does Apache OpenOffice think that the document is written in?

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Re: Quick Office Pro

2014-12-03 Thread jonathon


On 03/12/14 08:52, mt wrote:

 The idea of preparing a standard response to common posts that might
 create confusion/disruption on list is a very good one.

+1

For these reasons, we are unable to make our forums/mailing lists
available to support other software products, including [Quick Office
Pro or whatever], which are sold and distributed by commercial entities
as profit-making products.

That wording might need some tweaking.

Support for both Android Open Office and LibreOffice has been provided
on the AOo mailing lists and web forums. I don't know if support for
EuroOffice has been provided.

Those three programs (AnOO, LibO, EU) are close enough to AOo that
accurate support can usually be provided, even if one has never seen,
much less used the product in question.

 We therefore encourage you to go ahead and replace your [Quick Office
 Pro or whatever] with AOO, so you can take advantage of its features and
 support.

This proposed wording implies that AOo is available for iOS based
platforms. Whilst true for the Mac, it is not (¿yet?) true for the iPod,
iPhone, or iPad.

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Re: Suggestion of Ways to Combat Fake AOO Download Sites

2014-11-29 Thread jonathon
On November 29, 2014 8:03:14 AM PST, Tom Panfil  wrote:

  All the projects could watch that site's links to catch any corruption 
 introduced maliciously to the download links .

People redirected to the SourceForge from Openoffice.org have ended up 
downoading the program from a malicious third party. Whilst the cause of that 
issue has been dealt with, it is extremely difficult to deal with all the 
mutations of persuading people to part with a buck to download something.

The only practical solution is to constantly educate people about good computer 
hygiene practices.   (What is really sad, is that malware that used to only be 
found only in the cyberspace equivalent of a bar that prohibited unarmed 
patrons, is now peddled by major websites.)

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Re: Legal open ofifce being sold?

2014-11-26 Thread jonathon
On 26/11/14 21:04, Dale Erwin wrote:

 That is NOT OpenOffice.  

The confusing thing is that they call it Professional Open Office
Suite, Professional Office Suite, Open Office Suite, and Open
Office Suite 4.1.1.

Between that, and the disclosures at the bottom of the page, the
implication is that it is either Apache Open Office 4.1.1, or a very
close derivative of it.

It is an ad for a Microsoft Office Suite.

Further down on the page it states:
«You will receive Open Office Suite on CD delivered by USPS First Class
mail. ... All software programs on this CD-ROM are Open Source. The
distribution of this software is allowed under the GNU LGPL.»

That pretty much assures one that it is not Microsoft Office.

Going down to the disclaimers, the implication is that what is being
offered is Apache Open Office, even though the stated license (GNU LGPL)
does not match the current license.

You should never have to buy Open Office.

There are circumstances under which purchasing Open Office is a rational
decision.

To address the original poster's question, purchase of the CD is a
reasonable action:
* Data transfer limits;
* Low throughput speeds;
* Dirty network connections;
* Installation on a computer that has no network connection, and
SneakerNet is not a viable option;

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Re: Lost info

2014-11-16 Thread jonathon



On 16/11/14 21:51, Rod Huxley wrote:


Question: How do/can I recover this information.


There is outside possibility that if you go to
/home/user-name/.openoffice/4/user/backup/
(linux)
C:/users/user-name/Application Data/OpenOffice.org/4/user/backup/
(windows)
or a variant of that path, you will find an older copy of the
spreadsheets you lost.

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Re: Open Office vs Microsoft 365

2014-11-09 Thread jonathon


On 09/11/14 15:51, Elliot Warren wrote:

 What can Open Office cannot do as oppose to office 365? 

How much time are you willing to spend, learning how to use OpenOffice?

Anything that can be done using Office 365, or any other version of MSO
can be done using OpenOffice.  The _only_ issue is whether or not the
user is willing to take the time to learn how to use OpenOffice.

 Can Documents created on Open Office be saved on Microsoft's cloud? 

Yes.

 Will documents generated in Open Office shift when opened by computers with 
 Microsoft Word 

For most users, the biggest issue here is the fonts.

For a minority of cases, there are formatting incompatibilities, but
these are no greater than the formatting incompatibilities one
encounters when switching between systems, with both systems using
Office 365.

Would computers with Microsoft Word be able to open and edit Open Office 
Documents (and be saved)? 

Yes.

Be aware that there are bugs in Word's implementation of ODF that
minimize round trip compatibility with OpenOffice, LibreOffice, and
EuroOffice.

 Would I have formatting issues of opening Open Office spreadsheets by 
 computers with Microsoft Excel (2003, 2007 or 2013)?

This depends upon:
* How complex the formatting is;
* How complex the cell formulas are;

The most common problem encountered in switching between Excel and
OpenOffice, is the addition of custom macros in Excel, that can not be
run by OpenOffice.

My rule of thumb is that the more expensive the Excel template, the less
likely it is to be usable in OpenOffice.

 How good is the security against data theft and hacking on Open Office? 

OpenOffice is installed on one's system.
* It can run on a system that is air-gapped to all networks. As such,
third party intrusion is impossible;
* If one runs OpenOffice on a system connected to a network, then system
security relies on what one uses to filter both incoming and outgoing
packets.

Office 365 resides in the cloud, with the consequences that:
* Complete system security is impossible;
* To the extent that Microsoft secures both Office 365 and your storage
space, your storage is secure;
* Your system security depends upon what one uses to filter both
incoming and outgoing packets;

Where would I get security updates? 

These are included in the official releases.
Install a new release, to have the security update.

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Re: password

2014-11-04 Thread jonathon


On 04/11/14 23:00, Christine Casey wrote:

I just need someone to be on the phone with me and tell me exactly what to go 
to on my screen, what to click…you know, like that, step-by-step.

That type of support is only available from independent consultants and
firms that set their own price.

Some of those consultants are listed at
http://www.openoffice.org/bizdev/consultants.html.

The consultants I've talked with, which are not listed above, charge
between the mid-3 (three) and 5 (five) digits, for a single session,
which lasts around 45 minutes.

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Re: [moderate please] Re: Quickoffice pro

2014-10-10 Thread jonathon
On October 9, 2014 10:26:03 PM PDT, Martin Groenescheij  wrote:

I hardly can imagine users can maintain documents on an iPad let alone an 
iPhone.

That you can not imagine it, does not mean that it is not done.

There are thousands of apps in the iTune store that are replacable by an office 
suite, and a set of properly designed templates.

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Re: [moderate please] Re: Quickoffice pro

2014-10-10 Thread jonathon
On October 10, 2014 4:56:25 AM PDT, Martin Groenescheij wrote:

All I intended to say is that we could use the opportunity to advertise 
OpenOffice.

That get back to when was a port to iOS (iPhone  iPad) of Apache  OpenOffice 
done?

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Re: [moderate please] Re: Quickoffice pro

2014-10-09 Thread jonathon
On October 9, 2014 3:42:38 PM PDT, Martin Groenescheij  wrote:

Just promote OpenOffice as the solution for all his/her problems.

When was a port of Apache OpenOffice released for the iPhone?
When was a port of Apache OpenOffice released for the iPad?

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Re: MS Works 8.0

2014-09-28 Thread jonathon


On 9/25/2014 11:41 AM, NoOp wrote:

 Once upon a time, OOo could open MS Works documents.
 ...
 Perhaps a very long time ago. However in OOo did not in 2010:
 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.openoffice.questions/208996
 Of course Go-oo is no longer...

Try http://sourceforge.net/projects/ooop/?source=directory

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Re: Quickoffice

2014-09-23 Thread jonathon
On 9/22/2014 8:05 PM, Martin Groenescheij wrote:

 I just bought the quick office but it just show tap n when i tap
 Why don't you ask this question with the supplier of the software?

The OP probably thinks that this is the official vendor support list,
because the website that distributes that product points to this list as
being the official support site.

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Re: MS Works 8.0

2014-09-23 Thread jonathon


On 9/23/2014 6:41 AM, Brian Barker wrote:

 OpenOffice handles word documents just fine.
 But not Works documents, which are the subject of the enquiry.

Once upon a time, OOo could open MS Works documents.
Whether or not LibreOffice retained that capacity, I do not know.
But it appears that Apache OpenOffice does not have that functionality.

The only reason I know about that capacity, is because I used the wrong
setting to open WordPerfect documents.  (The error message was Not an
MS Works file.)

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Re: [OT] why so many accidental subscriptions?

2014-08-27 Thread jonathon
On August 27, 2014 10:27:00 AM PDT, TN Patriot wrote:

If that's not clear enough, perhaps going back to school to learn reading 
comprehension all over.

The reading/comprehension skills of an individual with a fifth grade education 
in the United States in 1914 are on a par with a PhD candidate in the United 
States in 2014.

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Re: AOO Ripoffreport

2014-08-24 Thread jonathon
On August 24, 2014 12:29:48 AM PDT, mt  wrote:
I really don't understand why these scams, and spam with them, 
aren't necessarily and sufficiently addressed by the 
appropriate authorities.

These are extremely low priority for enforcement agencies.

To put that inyo perspective, consider that law enforcement don't send in a 
forensic team to investigate a robbery, unless the value of the stolen items is 
greater than US$250,000. Furthermore, if the value of the stolen items is under 
US$100,000, law enforcement will not open a case. On a good day, you might get 
enough paperwork from them, to file an insurance claim.

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Re: AOO Ripoffreport

2014-08-22 Thread jonathon
On 8/22/2014 10:01 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

 Well, does this site have any good reputation? 

This site, like its competitors, thrives on _negative reviews_. Reviews
that might be objectively factual. Correcting the negative impression
that they leave, is part of the business model.

I don't know how a US based organization can obtain standing in England,
to file a lawsuit against another US based organization. :(
The reason for filing the lawsuit, would be to remove the misleading review.

On an equally dis-encouraging note, negative reviews crop up on a number
of sites, usually with even less apparent justification as this one,
but, as happened here, the review is for a completely different
product/service.

Countering the negative reviews, is an arduous process of education.

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Re: OpenOffice is unreliable

2014-08-20 Thread jonathon


On 8/18/2014 2:59 PM, James Lambert wrote:
 Where did you get your copy of Open Office. If it was not fro Apachie 
 Openoffice.com, It is no wonder you had trouble.

The original poster didn't provide any specifics about the alleged
crashes.  I no longer submit bug reports, because they are invariably
closed as won't fix.

Having said all that, there are conditions under which Apache OpenOffice
will crash, but neither LibreOffice, nor EuroOffice will crash.
There are conditions under which LibreOffice will crash, but neither
EuroOffice nor Apache Open Office will crash.
There are conditions under which EuroOffice will crash, but neither
LibreOffice, nor Apache Open Office will crash.

As a general rule, I switch office suites, when I am about to enter the
conditions that cause the office suite I am using to crash. For some
circumstances, switching office suites won't help, because the
functionality I need is present in only one of those office suites.

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Re: I CAN NOT REMOVE MY PASSWORD

2014-08-20 Thread jonathon


On 8/19/2014 7:36 PM, Doug wrote:

 I think this is Catch 22.
 1. The document is protected by a password
 2. You must open the document to remove the password
 3. You don't know the password to open the document.

 Maybe hypnosis?

At least one organization offers password removal/decryption for ODF
files. They tell potential clients that if the toolchain (On
SourceForge, I think) doesn't work for the client, then recovery costs
in the eight digit range are well within the ballpark. (IIRC, the setup
fee is €5,000,000. There is an ongoing charge, either monthly or
quarterly, until the password is found.)

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Re: Languages within a document

2014-08-01 Thread jonathon


On 7/31/2014 11:51 PM, Dale Erwin wrote:
 I realize that Spanish and Catalan are very similar languages, but I don't 
 have Catalan installed and I do have Spanish installed.

My guess is that the language detection scheme does not recognize
Spanish as a language. Rather, it recognizes the four or five
languages that comprise Spanish. (That issue erupted around the time the
language detection code was inserted into OOo.)

Unless you either a professional translator, or use write for an Western
Hemisphere (Canada, USA, Mexico, Caribbean, Central America, South
America) audience, it doesn't matter. If you are writing for a Western
Hemisphere audience, then switch language packs so that the Catalan
Effect is less pronounced.

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Re: Open Office Problem

2014-03-03 Thread Jonathon


On March 3, 2014 5:58:53 PM PST, Susan Wiebusch  wrote:
The person helping me on the phone when I bought this program 

That firm should address your issues adequately.

P.S.  How about a phone number so I can quickly resolve this. 

Whilst technical support by phone is available for Apache  OpenOffice, it is 
not gratis.

 A real person on the phone helped me download this program and this is when 
 the default to Open Office was done.

Calling that person back will cost you less than tech support by phone, from 
one of the commercial vendors.

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