[VFB] Re: QUOTE FOR THE DAY
I have a similar disorder. Rather than Obsessive Compulsive, my friend Mel terms it Excessive Compulsive. My biggest problem is locating specific items in my junk pile, such as the reel that I want to use today! Now where did I put it? Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, BC Canada _ From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jimmy D. Moore Sent: November 6, 2008 07:46 To: Virtual Fly Box; Fly Fishing World; Hill Coountry Fly Fishers Subject: [VFB] QUOTE FOR THE DAY I'm told casual observers describe my stuff as a junk pile, although only my wife Lori does this to my face. Fortunately, the obsessive-compulisve disorder that causes stuff to accumulate means only the accumulator can appreciate the value of his own stuff, so her opinion and theirs doesn't count. E Donnall Thomas Jr Gray's Sporting Journal --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Polor Bear Hair/Fur
Decent polar bear fur has become very hard to get. I have been looking for some time. I have a small quantity but it is somewhat yellowish and not the translucent white that is more desirable. Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver BC, Canada _ From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of jim phillips Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 10:01 AM To: Classic Fly Tying; flyfishingandflytyingforpanf...@yahoogroups.com; michel lajoie; VFB Subject: [VFB] Polor Bear Hair/Fur HELP!! Many of the flies I want to tie call for Polor Bear Fur (white) and I have searched high and low for some but have been unsuccessful to this point. Can anyone on the web help the poor old DT and let him know where he may go (no not there) to purchase/aquire a bit of this material or waht I can use to substitute the fur I need? Jim May your GOD be your fishing partner. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Danish Fly MAGNUS
Yes, It is used in the Ocean for sea trout off the Danish coast. I prefer the bullet head version. http://globalflyfisher.com/patterns/lab/qagnus.htm Neville Gosling -Original Message- From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rene Zillmann Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 1:06 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Danish Fly MAGNUS Is anybody familiar with the danish pattern 'Magnus'? Rene --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Danish Fly MAGNUS
There are several versions, one with the bead chain above the hook shank, one with the bead chain below the hook shank and the bullethead. Fo myself, I do not like the idea of placing the bead chain at the bend as I like to keep this area of the hook as clear as possible for maximum hooking ability. With a couple of beads in the way, I'm not sure that it would hook as well. You are talking about eyes, whereas back in the 70s when this fly was developed, I suspect that the weight of the bead chain was the main consideration and more important than it's appearance as eyes. Neville Gosling -Original Message- From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rene Zillmann Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 2:08 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Danish Fly MAGNUS Nev, yes, I found it there, several years ago. But I'm wondering, why the pattern has the bead chain eyes at the hooks eye. The pattern should represent a shrimp, therefore I expect the eyes at the hooks bend, where the feelers are. Any idea, why they mount the eyes at the patterns 'butt'? Rene --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Charlie Bonner
I never met Charlie Bonner, but following the news of his untimely passing, I did a little research on the web. I am so sorry that such a young person should pass away so soon and wirh pain and discomfort. Charlie was the same age as my own son. Life is not fair. I feel for his wife and children and extended family. Neville (Nev) Gosling --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: QUOTE FOR THE DAY
Very true, however I am often too eager to start fishing instead of waiting, watching trying to figure out the best holding lies for the fish and then the best metod to approach them without scaring the fish. Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, BC Canada _ From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jimmy D. Moore Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 6:56 AM To: Fly Fishing World; Virtual Fly Box; Hill Coountry Fly Fishers Subject: [VFB] QUOTE FOR THE DAY Fish slowly and thoroughly. Haste never pays dividends. Don't whip the stream to a froth. Make fewer casts. Make them to places which count an fish each cast out instead of lifting it prematurely. Ray Bergman Trout º ** JIMMY D. MOOREjdmo...@fishgame.com North Zone Fishing Editor - Texas Fish Game Mag, Author - Moon Holler Misfits Fishing Hunting Club, Humorist, Past VP Guadalupe River Trout Unlimited, Member TOWA, Retired Scout Exec. BSA. * º * --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
FW: [VFB] New Swap - any takers
Chris: We are still waiting for the mayfly dry fly the mayfly nymph swap to be distributed to the participants. Please get on with it. Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, BC Canada -Original Message- From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Broomell Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 2:42 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] New Swap - any takers Hi all, OK - so it's been about 20 years since I've participated in a swap. However, (now that I live someplace where I can fish more often AND since I am done with school) I think that it's time to rectify that situation. Is anyone interested in joining a Mayfly swap? Dries, any style (parachute, Catskill, traditional, etc.) Depending on interest it can be: A) - 12 tiers, one bug each or B) - 6 tiers, two bugs each. Chris --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
FW: [VFB] ANOTHER New Swap - MAYFLY NYMPHS
I was a taker but I am beginning to wish that I hadn't. This is not right! Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, BC Canada -Original Message- From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Broomell Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 10:53 AM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] ANOTHER New Swap - MAYFLY NYMPHS I MUST BE OUT OF MY MIND to propose another swap. But, so be it... Another swap for any interested parties (looking for 6 or 12 people). This one will be mayfly nymphs Current roster of masochists: Iain Short Chris Broomell Any takers? Chris Chris Broomell Dept. of Cellular, Molecular, and Developmental Biology Univ. California, Santa Barbara --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: New Swap - any takers
I think that you should direct your question to the swapmeister. Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver B. C. Canada -Original Message- From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John C. Bennett Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 8:14 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: New Swap - any takers It has been so long, i had forgotten about that. What happened? -Original Message- From: Neville Gosling nev.gosl...@shaw.ca Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 9:09 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Cc: 'Chris Broomell' broom...@lifesci.ucsb.edu Subject: FW: [VFB] New Swap - any takers Chris: We are still waiting for the mayfly dry fly the mayfly nymph swap to be distributed to the participants. Please get on with it. Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, BC Canada -Original Message- From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Broomell Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 2:42 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] New Swap - any takers Hi all, OK - so it's been about 20 years since I've participated in a swap. However, (now that I live someplace where I can fish more often AND since I am done with school) I think that it's time to rectify that situation. Is anyone interested in joining a Mayfly swap? Dries, any style (parachute, Catskill, traditional, etc.) Depending on interest it can be: A) - 12 tiers, one bug each or B) - 6 tiers, two bugs each. Chris This email has been proactively scanned for all known and unknown viruses. This message is now certified Virus-free. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: soft hackle fly swap
I will bite - not sure what I will tie at this moment. Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver B. C. Canada _ From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of J McK Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 7:08 PM To: Fly Swap Subject: [VFB] soft hackle fly swap Members, Well I'm going to take the plunge. I will host a soft hackle fly swap, 13 tiers including me. Flies are due by March 30th, 2009, all rules apply, first twelve get in. Be sure to toe tag all flies and send self addressed stamped return postage. Hope there are twelve interested tiers. Jerry McKaughan Caddis Fly Fishers P O Box 85 Pottsville, AR 72858 _ See how Windows Mobile brings your life together-at home, work, or on the go. See http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093182mrt/direct/01/ Now --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
FW: [VFB] Re: New Swap - (dry flies) - SWAP closed
Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 08:33:07 -0700 From: broom...@lifesci.ucsb.edu To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: New Swap - (dry flies) - SWAP closed This swap is considered closed after successful solicitation of Meister Miller to the fold. Byard Miller George Vincent Peggy Brenner Iain Short Neville Gosling Jerry McKaughan Jim Phillips John Bennett Michael Bliss Jim Hodson Gary Smith Chris Broomell Flies due on or around June 1. First batch in gets a few prezzies from Montana. Chris Broomell 2508 Annie St. Bozeman, MT 59718 Cheers! Chris Chris Broomell Dept. of Cellular, Molecular, and Developmental Biology Univ. California, Santa Barbara --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: OLD FART Update 2 / 2 3 / 09
Sure I can Jack. I will look forward to receiving it. Neville -Original Message- From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jack Lehman Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 3:34 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: OLD FART Update 2 / 2 3 / 09 Neville, can you wait? I do a monthly tying article for my local club, and I'm planning on doing the spoonfly for March. Once its done, I can send you a copy. Jack Neville Gosling wrote: Any chance of posting a photo? Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver B. C. Canada --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Mayfly Swap
The flies were due June 1st Mid June 2008 _ From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of J McK Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 11:59 AM To: Fly Swap Subject: [VFB] Mayfly Swap I'm trying to remember how long ago I sent flies to Montana? If ayone has seen thier flies let mw know? Jerry McKaughan Caddis Fly Fishers P O Box 85 Pottsville, AR 72858 _ Windows LiveT Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite groups to meet. Check it http://windowslive.com/online/groups?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_groups_032009 out. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: HELLO were all here
To All Swappers, So - against all belief, I'm sure, I have the flies packaged up and ready to ship. I will not waste space or insult anybody's sensibility to make excuses about the slight delay in getting these out. It's been the gnarliest year of my life BUT I should have taken care of this LONG ago. Please accept my sincere apologies. I hope that any bitterness that any of you harbor against me will be transformed into fish in hand this season. Two orders of business... The first two people who sent in flies are receiving special extras. I've acknowledged who they are before but I honestly cannot remember (I've slept since then...)...would you please let me know who you are? There were a few people who did not send in flies (I COULD say that I've still been waiting for them...but nobody would buy it...). So we have two full sets of dries and nymphs that are unaccounted for. I propose that we decide on a worthy recipient; does anyone know of somebody who could really USE 9 nymphs and 12 dries. Meaning...someone starting out, someone who just got laid off and could use a pick me up? Some homeless flyfisher (don't laugh...the first trout I caught was on a fly bought from a homeless flyfisher in Boulder, CO). I'll take suggestions off list. My new email is ccbroom...@gmail.com Feel free to yell at me off list and - if it makes you feel comfortable - to badger me about getting the damn boxes in the mail before July 4. Again - I am truly sorry. Chris _ From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John C. Bennett Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 9:41 AM To: 'vfb-mail@googlegroups.com' Subject: [VFB] Re: HELLO were all here Honestly, I can't remember what I even tied for that swap. It will be a pleasant surprise (if we receive them.) John Bennett Lifetime Products, Inc. Direct: (801) 513-9001 jcbenn...@lifeitme.com mailto:em...@lifetime.com Lifetime_Logo_BlkWhite_Sans_email sig From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of J McK Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 10:39 AM To: Fly Swap Subject: [VFB] HELLO were all here Well it's raining in Russellville, AR, the tempeture is 58 degrees and cloudy. I wish I was at the tying bench instead of work. Still looking for my mayflies from Montana that I send almost a year ago. Jerry McKaughan Caddis Fly Fishers P O Box 85 Pottsville, AR 72858 _ Rediscover HotmailR: Get e-mail storage that grows with you. Check it http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_St orage1_042009 out. This email has been proactively scanned for all known and unknown viruses. This message is now certified Virus-free. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~--- inline: image001.jpg
[VFB] Re: Left hand reel
To me, left hand wind (LHW) refers to the way the reel is set up to operate, therefore a reel set up for RHW reel is wound in by the right hand, usually after changing the rod to the left hand but not always. Initially, in my early days as a small boy using centre pin reels similar in action to a fly reel, I used my right hand to wind in and the reel was mounted accordingly. Then came spinning reels which at that time (mid 1950s) were almost all left hand wind. As Don O noted, one gets so used to this that it eventually becomes automatic and so I wind in with my reel set up for LHW. Once I found a near new Hardy perfect 31/8th model which was RHW but it was such a bargain that I bought it thinking that I could manage with it. Not so, as I found myself constantly grabbing for a handle that wasn't there. As a result I sold it. My son is left handed and he casts with his left hand and retrieves with his right. All my reels, be they fly, spinning, centre pin, baitcasting or large saltwater multiplier are LHW with only one exception that I can think of which is a saltwater multiplier which I will probably sell when I find a suitable replacement. Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver B. C. Canada --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: JIMMY D's Website
Jimmy Your web site loaded fine with my Mozilla browser. If you think you fly tying table is a mess, it is nothing compared with mine! By the way, what program do you use to build your website? Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver B. C. Canada --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] You reached Vancouver, Canada
Hi Jerry: You reached Vancouver, Canada. Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver B. C. Canada _ From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of J McK Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 12:58 PM To: Fly Swap Subject: [VFB] test Am I getting out, I don't seem to be receiving any messages Jerry McKaughan,President Caddis Fly Fishing Club P O Box 85 Pottsville, AR 72858 _ Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for HotmailR. See http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/LearnMore/personalize.aspx?ocid=TXT_MSGT X_WL_HM_express_032009#colortheme how. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Braided nylon loop connector material?
Wes: What are you planning to use this for? Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver B. C. Canada -Original Message- From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Wes Wada Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 12:49 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Braided nylon loop connector material? The Gudebrod C-Thru product arrived yesterday, and I have been playing with the material. If you took the standard braided nylon material used for making loops, and scaled it down using smaller diameter nylon fibers, then you can visualize the product. The braided loop material is commonly available in 35-pound and 50-pound test. The C-Thru material is 25yd. spools of 17, 8, or 6 pound. I ordered the 8 and 6. The breaking strength listing is very deceptive, as I haven't been able to break the 8 pound test with my hands. It is very sturdy stuff, tightly braided. The 8 pound is .019 diameter, and about 1/16, about the same as many butt sections of leaders. Indeed, you could easily have a quick substitute for a furled leader butt using this stuff. The 6 pound test is .015 diameter, about 50% thicker than 1/32. I am not sure what types and sizes of dacron are used for blind eye hooks, but the C-Thru would make a very good alternative. The source for the material, available in single spools, is Land of Odds: 6-pound C-Thru http://www.landofodds.com/servlet/Detail?no=28074 8-pound C-Thru http://www.landofodds.com/servlet/Detail?no=28075 17-pound C-Thru http://www.landofodds.com/servlet/Detail?no=28076 If anybody has further questions, just contact me offline. Wes Wada Bend, Oregon On 4/11/09, Wes Wada w...@wadaworks.com wrote: I have found a source to order single spools of 6# and 8# Gudebrod C-Thru. The order should arrive any day now, and I will report on the product and source. Wes --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Braided nylon loop connector material?
Mike: I tried a hair dryer on max heat but it did not weld the loop together. The heat needs to be concentrated. The shrink tubing shrunk but returning home after after casting with the line on the river, the loop slid out of the tube a few days later. Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver B. C. Canada -Original Message- From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Bliss Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 10:45 AM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Braided nylon loop connector material? Does it have to be a heat gun? Would a hair dryer work? Mike On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 10:14 PM, Thomas Eckert royalcoach...@bluewin.ch wrote: Take al look on: http://www.fishandfly.com/articles/20090320_1 They show how to make a welded loop with some shrink tube - works perfect Thomas Thomas R. Eckert royalcoach...@bluewin.ch Sonnhaldenstrasse 14 CH 8032 Zürich 7 ZH Switzerland Tel.: +41442628367 Mobil: +41796795463 www.royalcoachman.net -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] Im Auftrag von Michael Bliss Gesendet: Mittwoch, 15. April 2009 00:40 An: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Betreff: [VFB] Re: Braided nylon loop connector material? So Wes are you making loop connectors for your fly lines? If you are I would be interested in the process. I have been using the braided leaders for some time and love them but the connections to the fly line are not how I would like them yet. Mike On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Wes Wada w...@wadaworks.com wrote: The Gudebrod C-Thru product arrived yesterday, and I have been playing with the material. If you took the standard braided nylon material used for making loops, and scaled it down using smaller diameter nylon fibers, then you can visualize the product. The braided loop material is commonly available in 35-pound and 50-pound test. The C-Thru material is 25yd. spools of 17, 8, or 6 pound. I ordered the 8 and 6. The breaking strength listing is very deceptive, as I haven't been able to break the 8 pound test with my hands. It is very sturdy stuff, tightly braided. The 8 pound is .019 diameter, and about 1/16, about the same as many butt sections of leaders. Indeed, you could easily have a quick substitute for a furled leader butt using this stuff. The 6 pound test is .015 diameter, about 50% thicker than 1/32. I am not sure what types and sizes of dacron are used for blind eye hooks, but the C-Thru would make a very good alternative. The source for the material, available in single spools, is Land of Odds: 6-pound C-Thru http://www.landofodds.com/servlet/Detail?no=28074 8-pound C-Thru http://www.landofodds.com/servlet/Detail?no=28075 17-pound C-Thru http://www.landofodds.com/servlet/Detail?no=28076 If anybody has further questions, just contact me offline. Wes Wada Bend, Oregon On 4/11/09, Wes Wada w...@wadaworks.com wrote: I have found a source to order single spools of 6# and 8# Gudebrod C-Thru. The order should arrive any day now, and I will report on the product and source. Wes --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: DVD is here
Don O: You should put a short sampler on U-tube. That way, if the viewers like the sampler they may be more keen to purchase the DVD. Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver B. C. Canada -Original Message- From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of DonO Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 11:48 AM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: DVD is here Mike, I've created a DVD Order folder and am putting all emails of those interested and of those ordering into it. Like I mentioned before, VFB'ers get a 25%+/- discount. I'm waiting for Jack Dennis to view the DVD and get his comments, one of which will be pricing suggestions. Since the rope-dub is a technique, not a pattern or recipe, the applications will be literally for thousands of patterns, both old ones up-graded with the rope-dub and new ones designed based on the rope-dub's capabilities. The bottom line, of course, is fishability. With buggy-looking segmentation and near bullet-proof durability, it's perfect for the flyfisher who wants great fishing flies. The speed and ease will allow that same tier to tie 5 times as many flies in the same time. If you want to design new patterns, it extends the realm of 'dubbung' 10-fold, allowing the use of materials for dubbings and styles of dubbing that haven't been seen before. DonO --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Error: Incompatible magic value 151587081 in class file ChatClient
I have the Java plug in but I get an error and when I click for the error details this is the result:- Java Plug-in 1.6.0_13 Using JRE version 1.6.0_13 Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM User home directory = C:\Documents and Settings\Neville Gosling c: clear console window f: finalize objects on finalization queue g: garbage collect h: display this help message l: dump classloader list m: print memory usage o: trigger logging q: hide console r: reload policy configuration s: dump system and deployment properties t: dump thread list v: dump thread stack x: clear classloader cache 0-5: set trace level to n java.lang.ClassFormatError: Incompatible magic value 151587081 in class file ChatClient at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass1(Native Method) at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass(Unknown Source) at java.security.SecureClassLoader.defineClass(Unknown Source) at sun.plugin2.applet.Applet2ClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source) at sun.plugin2.applet.Plugin2ClassLoader.loadCode(Unknown Source) at sun.plugin2.applet.Plugin2Manager.createApplet(Unknown Source) at sun.plugin2.applet.Plugin2Manager$AppletExecutionRunnable.run(Unknown Source) at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source) Exception: java.lang.ClassFormatError: Incompatible magic value 151587081 in class file ChatClient _ From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of DonO Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 4:33 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Virtual Flybox :: Chat Room I just tried the Chat Room again and got a blank page. Anyone else try it? DonO - Original Message - From: Jimmy D. mailto:ray...@earthlink.net Moore To: Virtual Fly Box mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 1:39 PM Subject: [VFB] Virtual Flybox :: Chat Room A suggestion. Why not use the VFB Chat Room, for back and forth posts on the VFB list. Would sure keep the list from getting so cluttered. I know, I can just hit the delete key. But the Chat Room could really serve a good purpose right about now. We used to use it often, especially at night. http://virtualflybox.com/chat/index.php http://virtualflybox.com/chat/index.php JIMMY D º ** JIMMY D. MOOREjdmo...@fishgame.com North Zone Fishing Editor - Texas Fish Game Mag, Author - Moon Holler Misfits Fishing Hunting Club, Humorist, Past VP Guadalupe River Trout Unlimited, Member TOWA, Retired Scout Exec. BSA. Website - http://bigtroutman.tripod.com/index.html * º * _ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.12.4/2077 - Release Date: 4/23/09 7:21 PM --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Red Ass
To Jerry Red Ass McKaughan A.K.A. Woodenlegs Retrieved the soft hackle swap flies from my PO box just across the border in Blaine, WA and I can honestly say that the 70 minute wait for the border line-up was worth it. There are some great looking flies there and I am especially interested in Wes Wada's soft hackle midge. That pearl flashabou is so thin I don't know how you were able to wind it without breaking - also George Vincent's Grouse Herl and Peggy Brenner's Partridge Green both look fishy to me, heck the whole damn lot do! Thanks for organizing Jerry! Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver B. C. Canada --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~--- inline: Blank Bkgrd.gif
[VFB] Greenback not dollars
For the attentiont of donno, Don Eaux or Don O Discovered east of Moab - where were you last summer? http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_12263575 http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_12263575 Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver B. C. Canada --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~--- inline: Blank Bkgrd.gif
[VFB] Re: tyers wanted for Winged Wet Fly Swap
Iain: What is the deadline date? Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada _ From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of iain short Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 9:42 AM To: VFB-new Subject: [VFB] tyers wanted for Winged Wet Fly Swap New Winged Wet Fly Swap 10 flies. Traditional winged wet flies. Sized for trout. BUT NOT STREAMERS ! Please name your pattern 1. John Bennett - 2. George Vincent - 3. Garry Smith - 4. Iain Short - 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. (I know i earlier said traditional English Winged Wet Fly but just Traditional Winged Wet Fly will do). BUT NOT STREAMERS ! The site below shows the type and style of fly. http://globalflyfisher.com/patterns/bergman/ iain __ _ Beyond Hotmail - see what else you can do with Windows Live. Find out http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665375/direct/01/ more. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: tyers wanted for Winged Wet Fly Swap
Ok Iain, Please count me in. I will advise pattern later Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada _ From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of iain short Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 11:00 AM To: VFB-new Subject: [VFB] Re: tyers wanted for Winged Wet Fly Swap end august ? _ From: nev.gosl...@shaw.ca To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: tyers wanted for Winged Wet Fly Swap Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 09:48:39 -0700 Iain: What is the deadline date? Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: 11th entry for winged wet flies
It wouldn't be the same without Rene! Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada _ From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of iain short Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 9:12 AM To: VFB-new Subject: [VFB] 11th entry for winged wet flies Any one object to Rene joining and making it eleven flies ? Tie Eleven traditional winged wet flies. Sized for trout. BUT NOT STREAMERS ! Due end august ? Send your flies, with 3 dollars postage to Iain Short, 29 Rothesay Terrace, Bedlington Northumbria, NE225PT ENGLAND Please name your pattern ... 1. John Bennett - 2. George Vincent - 3. Garry Smith - 4. Iain Short - 5. Don Ordes - 6. Ashley Strut - 7. Thomas Eckert - 8. David Masson - 9. Walter Shockley - 10. Neville Gosling - 11. Rene Zillmann - Traditional Winged Wet Flys BUT NOT STREAMERS ! The site below shows the type and style of fly. http://globalflyfisher.com/patterns/bergman/ iain _ Beyond Hotmail - see what else you can do with Windows Live. Find out http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665375/direct/01/ more. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Second Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap
Now I'm confused. Winged wet fly trout size to me would be size 10-12 14? Do you really want size 8? It not a problem, I just need to know Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada _ From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of iain short Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 8:46 PM To: VFB-new Subject: [VFB] Re: SACOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap Mark I said trout sized, and normal 8's are used for lake trout over here, so. iain --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap
John: Give Iain a chance and please think before you send a message like this. Sometimes e-mail is not perfect and remember you catch more flies with honey than vinegar! Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada _ From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John C. Bennett Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 9:59 AM To: 'vfb-mail@googlegroups.com' Subject: [VFB] Re: SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap Looks like I am not wanted in this one. I tried to sign up twice but both e-mails were ignored. Forget it, I will join the next one if I am allowed. John Bennett Lifetime Products, Inc. Direct: (801) 513-9001 jcbenn...@lifeitme.com mailto:em...@lifetime.com Lifetime_Logo_BlkWhite_Sans_email sig --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~--- inline: image001.jpg
[VFB] Re: FIRST traditional winged wet fly Swap
I will tie a mallard claret Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada _ From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of iain short Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 9:55 AM To: VFB-new Subject: [VFB] FIRST traditional winged wet fly Swap FIRST traditional winged wet fly Swap Tie Eleven traditional winged wet flies. Sized for trout. BUT NOT STREAMERS ! Due end august Send your flies, with 3 US dollars postage to Iain Short, 29 Rothesay Terrace, Bedlington, Northumbria, NE225PT ENGLAND Please name your pattern ... 1. John Bennett - 2. George Vincent - Grizzly King 3. Garry Smith - Pink Lady 4. Iain Short - 5. Don Ordes - 6. Ashley Strut - Cock Robin 7. Thomas Eckert - Connemara Black 8. David Masson - 9. Walter Shockley - Teal Blue Silver 10. Neville Gosling - 11. Rene Zillmann - Invicta _ Beyond Hotmail - see what else you can do with Windows Live. Find out http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665375/direct/01/ more. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap
John: Please don't take any offense but It seems to me that neither of your proposed flies constitute a traditional winged wet fly. Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada _ From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John C. Bennett Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 1:50 PM To: 'vfb-mail@googlegroups.com' Subject: [VFB] Re: SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap I will tie these flies for the swaps: Wet fly swap 1 = Stonefly Wet fly swap 2 = Harley's Revenge (Harley is an African Grey parrot that my in-laws have. I use feathers and colors from him that he sheds. It is called Harley's revenge because his mate died when it had gotten hold of a fish from my in-laws fish tank and chocked. So every time I catch a fish with this fly it is a slight revenge for the bird.) John Bennett Lifetime Products, Inc. Direct: (801) 513-9001 jcbenn...@lifeitme.com mailto:em...@lifetime.com Lifetime_Logo_BlkWhite_Sans_email sig --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~--- inline: image001.jpg
[VFB] SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap
I understood it to be the latter, but maybe I'm wrong. There are many traditional winged wet flies, some well known and some more obscure. There are also many local versions. Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada -Original Message- From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John C. Bennett Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 5:07 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap None taken, both of these (the way i tie them) are tied in the traditional wing fashion. Is that the purpose of this swap or is it to tie a classic old traditional winged pattern that everyone knows? John bennett --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: FW: for the list
Does your wallet hum as it empties at today's gas prices? Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada Our old '94 Surburban is our fishin' trucki bought it brand new in July '94 and it haulded musicians all over North America for 8 years before i retired it to being nothin' but a fishin' truckit's got over 200K miles on it...still runs great..Compression and torque is as good as ever.4th set of brakes and third transmission..but the puppy just hums at 70mph. i have a rod rack built inside now that holds 7 rods strung up and ready to grab and GO! @ al timesNniiccee. http://gfx2.hotmail.com/mail/w3/ltr/emoticons/smile_teeth.gif --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: FIRST Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap
I found this swap to be quite a challenge as I have not tied winged wet flies for a very long time. I experienced some difficulty in placing the beard hackle or collar without crowding the eye and sometimes the wing did not go as planned. You are correct, it is a lost art (at least for me). Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada _ From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of DonO Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 7:39 AM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: FIRST Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap Iain, I've got the 'mixed bag' (or is that 'mixed box'?) of wet flies tied, but I'm not done yet. Having too much fun re-visiting the 'traditional' patterns I grew up with- the 1st flies that I tied as a kid. My my... first the '65 Mustang, now flies. I think I still have some old catalogs where these were still offered as box-stock flies. It is fun digging through feather bags that I haven accessed in 20 years- would never use that stuff tying modern flies. A true lost art, those wet flies of olden-days. Oh...and what a mess I'm making... DonO --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: FIRST Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap
Yes. Unfortunately we are only allowed to use a single fly in BC. Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada _ From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of iain short Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 10:43 AM To: VFB-new Subject: [VFB] Re: FIRST Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap Nev Dont forget... you fish them downstream and across iain --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Single Hook Restriction.
Yes Mike: In all waters be it river or lake although when fishing alone in a boat, a person can use two rods each with a single hook. In all rivers and streams, a barbless hook must be used. Certain lakes also have the barbless restriction. Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada Neville, Is that true everywhere in BC and at all times? Just curious. I have toyed with the idea of coming there instead of Alaska the next time I get a chance. Mike On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 8:12 AM, Neville Goslingnev.gosl...@shaw.ca wrote: Yes. Unfortunately we are only allowed to use a single fly in BC. Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: New swap Hoppers
Count me in Peggy - if I can get the required materials I would like to tie Harrison Steeves mini-hopper. It calls for plastic canvas yarn for the body and Kreinik 1/16 flat ribbon - I'm not sure what this is or where it can be obtained but it sounds like an intersting hopper pattern. Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada _ From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Peggy Brenner Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 7:01 AM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] New swap Hoppers I realized I had not hosted a swap for a while, so how about a Hooper swap, 10 openings max, flies due end of September. 1 Peggy with a Joes Hopper variation 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 -- Peggy Brenner --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB]
Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B. C. Canada --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Test 27 Aug
Test Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B. C. Canada --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Virtual Flybox
Am I back online at VFB? Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B. C. Canada --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Finally able to post messages
Don O: That's great. I have not been able to post for a month or more but could see everyone else's posts but mine refused to show except as normal in my sent mail. Only problem now is that I am getting two of everything so will have to unsubscribe just once. This has been super frustrating. Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B. C. Canada _ From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Don Ordes Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 9:08 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Virtual Flybox Hear ya, Neville. Loud and clear. - Original Message - From: Neville mailto:nev.gosl...@shaw.ca Gosling To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 9:21 PM Subject: [VFB] Virtual Flybox Am I back online at VFB? Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B. C. Canada --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Small saltwater stainless hooks
Don O I wasn't thinking when I said stainless steel because many of the saltwater hooks are tinned or nickel plated which are possibly even better. I have discovered to my amazement that I do indeed have some size Mustad 10 C71S SS hooks, left over from a past fly swap, so I am going to give them a try. The trouble with me is that I have a lightning fast response to a tug on my line, when all I want to do is let the fish turn with the fly and hook itself. I find it hard to slow down and as a result my hookset tends to be, shall we say, a bit on the strong side. Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B. C. Canada Subject: [VFB] Re: Small saltwater stainless hooks Nev, Locating small #10 and ss fly hooks is pretty hard. You can usually find a box of 100 #10 ring-eye in a bait shop, not in a fly shop. You may have to bend the kirb, but that's not hard. Also look into circle or semi-circle hooks if you will have any long or slack line fishing. If you are tying simple patterns, tho, it may be better to go ahead and tie disposable or re-tyable flies on regular bronze hooks. Current thinking is that it's kinder to the fish to have an easy-to-dissolve hook in their mouths if they break off. A stainless hook takes forever to corrode, and the fish will usually weaken during that time and get picked off by a predator. Mustad, EC, and other hook-makers are making heavy bronzed 3XX wire hooks for saltwater use, as a #10 std. stainless will bend or break off in a big fish. These heavy wire hooks also supply the weight needed to get the fly down. DonO --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] some size 10 Mustad 10 C71S SS hooks,
Don O I should have pointed out that these are circle hooks Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B. C. Canada --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: FW: for the list
What's this all about? Who are Bob Dave? Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B. C. Canada _ From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of jim phillips Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 4:42 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] FW: for the list Mark Sends May your GOD be your fishing partner. Subject: for the list Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 17:10:17 -0600 Don't forget, http://www.bobanddavesauctions.com http://www.bobanddavesauctions.com/ goes LIVE Mon. http://gfx2.hotmail.com/mail/w3/ltr/emoticons/smile_wink.gif _ Windows Live: Keep your friends up to date with what you do online. Find http://windowslive.com/Campaign/SocialNetworking?ocid=PID23285::T:WLMTAGL:O N:WL:en-US:SI_SB_online:082009 out more. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Flies for Pink salmon in saltwater
I'll tell you what I need them for. Every odd numbered 2nd year, there is a run of pink salmon (humpback) to this part of British Columbia - basically the Fraser River sytem. Every even numbered year - the pinks run to other areas of BC- notably the Queen Charlotte Islands in northern BC. I have usually fished for pinks in the Fraser in past years, and although I have caught them in saltwater I was never as successful as I felt I should have been. it seems that I have been using flies that are too big, because the pinks in saltwater feed on euphasid aka krill which are small - hence the size 10 hooks. I didn't know that you could get saltwater hooks in size 12. I will try and post a photo of the type of fly that I am tying in the File Section of Google groups. http://www.flyfishbc.com/photopost/showphoto.php/photo/1762 Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B. C. Canada --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Dressing for Baler Hopper?
Yes - I discovered this after I sent the e-mail. I tied to make it easier by cutting out the long URLs. They do work however. If you go to the the VFB MAIL web page and click on files you will see them there also. Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, BC Canada _ From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of jim phillips Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 5:52 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: FW: [VFB] Dressing for Baler Hopper? _ From: markflie...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com; desert-tr...@hotmail.com Subject: RE: [VFB] Dressing for Baler Hopper? Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 16:43:53 -0600 Nev, you got those pics in jpeg style? Those url's are unclickable...sorry, but i hate all that cut and paste crap..pain in the butt and way to time consumming.btw, the package show up yet? Good luck when you fish your hoppers. http://gfx2.hotmail.com/mail/w3/ltr/emoticons/smile_wink.gif --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Foam Hoppers- now Zap-a-gap
Don Zap-a-Gap is a well known brand and they market several different types of super glue. Thin, gels and so on. They even have a Zip Kicker for instant and I mean instant set up. A lot of radio control aircraft modellers use it in different thicknesses. A model shop is the best place to locate it, not your hardware store, at least not in Canada. It is a CA (Cyanacrylate) glue aka Super Glue. Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B. C. Canada _ From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Don Ordes Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 8:12 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Foam Hoppers- now Zap-a-gap Is Zap-a-Gap the same as Super-Glue Gel? I use the SG Gel-form a LOT. I mean Lots and Lots: Eyes on deer-hair bodies and heads Eyes on Egg-yarn sculpin heads Eyes on fur and wool heads Eyes on my saltwater streamers- with giant eyes a must Gill-plate feathers Thread and wire glued to hook-shanks (when called for) Probably a lot more too... Need to try it on foam, see if it dissolves it. Dave Whitlock gave me a few bottles of Zap-a-gap at the FFF, but I haven't tried it yet. DonO - Original Message - From: Niclas Runarsson mailto:niclas.runars...@soderhamn.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 5:23 PM Subject: [VFB] Re: Foam Hoppers Personally, I'm a Zap-A-Gap man... -Original Message- From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Allan Fish Sent: 08 September 2009 00:50 To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Foam Hoppers Nev, Yes, it is quite different. I find it a bit hard to get an even coating of CA glue on the foam, without putting too much on. I think it sucks into the foam and disappears. It may be my foam of type of glue. Yes it's fun 3M company makes several spray adhesives that are really good for foam. I used M Super 77 Spray Adhesive. I don't really know what the minimum time is. I followed the directions. I put the foam in a big cardboard box (to catch the overspray). If memory serves me right (happens less frequently these days), I sprayed each piece separately and let them get tacky (3-5 minutes?). Then I put them together carefully. I layed them on a very flat surface and put a book on them overnight. Worked fine. I even did three layers for the Chernobyl ants. Also on the 3M website are: 3M Industrial Spray Adhesive 3M FoamFast 74 Spray Adhesive Both of these are also recommended for foam. I'll try to get that picture that I promised you tonight. Cheers, a. -- Allan Fish Greenwood, IN afi...@sbcglobal.net --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Foam Hoppers
It seems that there is some confusion as to what I am actually trying to do when glueing foam to make the Charlie Boy Hopper. The process of tying the Charlie Boy hopper involves folding together a strip on foam that is attached to the hook by the bend and eye. It is a bit like making a crease fly, but the fold of the foam is in a different plain. Instead of from one side of the hook shank , over the wire shank and glue to the other side, the foam is glued from end (eye) to bend. It's hard to explain and evident in http://www.charliesflyboxinc.com/flybox/details.cfm?parentID=164 It would be somewhat difficult to use contact cement in this case and super glue CA is used instead. IF I was just joining different sheets of foam together for a club sandwhich type of fly, I would choose conatact cement - either brush on or even better spray on. Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B. C. Canada On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Neville Gosling nev.gosl...@shaw.ca wrote: Hi Nick: Yes, it is quite different. I find it a bit hard to get an even coating of CA glue on the foam, without putting too much on. I think it sucks into the foam and disappears. It may be my foam of type of glue. Yes it's fun Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver BC Canada Foam hopper tying just suck you into it, doesn't it? Check my foam hopper tour for a few more ideas of what to try. (Jester contributed with his designs too): http://www.swedneckflyfishing.com/hoppers.htm In my CP I found that a site that linked to mine had more hoppers (among other foam flies): http://www.pescandoconmosca.cl/foro/viewtopic.php?f=19 http://www.pescandoconmosca.cl/foro/viewtopic.php?f=19t=2226 t=2226 /Nick --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] RE:small saltwater hooks
For Mark: I crossed the border and picked up the hooks today. Monday was a statutory holiday in BC and border traffic would have been heavy over the entire long weekend and so I waited until today. The size 12 tinned Gamakatsus are the smallest saltwater fly hook I have found to date. I think that I prefer tinned to satinless steel. I'm not sure how long it takes to break down in salt water. Anyhow, I suspect that I am now probably a bit too late to fish the beaches for pink salmon this year, as I suspect that most have entered the rivers by now, but I will check my local river. Thank you very much. Is there anything I can send you in return? Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B. C. Canada _ From: markflie...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com; desert-tr...@hotmail.com Subject: RE: [VFB] Dressing for Baler Hopper? Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 16:43:53 -0600 Nev, you got those pics in jpeg style? Those url's are unclickable...sorry, but i hate all that cut and paste crap..pain in the butt and way to time consumming.btw, the package show up yet? Good luck when you fish your hoppers. http://gfx2.hotmail.com/mail/w3/ltr/emoticons/smile_wink.gif --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?
Wes: There are several different machines/tools out there. Mine is the original Czech Turbo Spinning Block, which are rather expensive (got mine at a greatly reduced price). Jan Siman Ltd has them. Norvise has a similar attachment and I think Doug Swisher has one as well. There was also one made in Kamloops BC but I cannot remember the name. http://globalflyfisher.com/reviews/tyingtools/dubbingblock/ http://shop.siman.cz/ Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B. C. Canada _ From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Wes Wada Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 5:30 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Duh, what do you call this thing? Hi VFB! A quickee question. You might know of the fly tying tool that makes thin twisted-wire brushes of various materials. The finished material looks like a chenille, but has a twisted-wire core. What do you call the tool that makes these? Anybody got a picture link? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] We Need a BLacklist
I think that I will start my own blacklist and will not particpate in swaps or will withdraw from swaps if someone on my blacklist is part of the swap. Most of the culprits just do not communicate. Presumably they are too embarrased to do so. They get all enthused when a swap is announced and submit their name but do not check their other obligations, or more likey lose intertest in the swap over time. Even if you are ill, you should still be able to get a message out. The only exception is if the person drops dead from a heart attack. Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B. C. Canada _ From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Niclas Runarsson Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 4:24 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: We Need a BLacklist Know the feeling. I just hosted a tiny fly swap here in Sweden. We were twelve tiers but it turned out to be ten flies... with five reserves who had seen the announcement too late, but were standing in line to jump in. One envelope came in with a big hole in it... flies lost. But as he was eager to tie new ones, we agreed to push the due date a week for him to be able to do his best and not his quickest. This gave the two no-shows another week too... and I called them both, since they didn't answer my PM's on the forum. The one I reached said that he had forgotten about them and was going to mail them tonight... tomorrow at the latest. The PLANNED extra week passed and, due to factors preventing me to do my stuff with pictures and sorting, so did another week. I mailed them today, three weeks later than planned. The one I didn't reached is still not to be reached. The one who said he was going to mail his flies three weeks ago hasn't said a word since... and if they had just SAID that their flies weren't coming, it wouldn't have been a problem filling both places... having five people waiting with three weeks to tie. Preventing people from participating... and making the other tiers spending extra hours behind the vise (the size range on the flies tied in this swap was #24-32... not five minute-flies to quite a few, who before this swap hadn't tied smaller than #20). They will be reminded about this if they show interest in future swaps of mine. /Nick --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
FW: Read: FW: [VFB] We Need a BLacklist
Fellow VFB'ers John Bennett is there because I requested a message read confirmation. If this is not John, someone else is using his e-mail address. Neville (Nev) Gosling, Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada __ From: John C. Bennett [mailto:jcbenn...@lifetime.com] Sent: September-24-09 9:29 PM To: Neville Gosling Subject: Read: FW: [VFB] We Need a BLacklist Your message was read on Thursday, September 24, 2009 10:28:42 PM (GMT-07:00) Mountain Time (US Canada). --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap
Hey Reuven it is good to hear from you at last. SHANA TOVA to you as well. You are a good dude and took part in one of my swaps, but this time you failed to communicate. Had you done so, it would have been ok. And you know what they say about the workman who blames his tools! nuf said. Cheers Neville (Nev) Gosling, Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada -Original Message- From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Reuven Segal Sent: September-26-09 7:52 AM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap Firstly, SHANA TOVA to all. OK OK guysjust relax a little. The world hasn't collapsed...yet. I apologise for any issues that may have arisen BUT I have been out of touch with EVERYONE because... 1. my computer is Dell crap. 2. I have been pulling 110+ hour weeks for a couple months now 3. my flies were mailed from Bali by a wife who forgot to mail them before heading overseas. It has been a month now but if you think the mail is a problem, you should try making a phone calll. I can do nothing about the slow mail, but you should decide what to do. That being said, and whilst there can be no excuse for not mailing flies or keeping in contact, there is no need for a blackballing anyone. We are not communist hunters. I think that I have been fairly consistent over the previous 5 years in terms of swaps, having completed over a dozen or so. I think it is the same of most people on the list. I think only once my flies didn't make it, but things cannot always be controlled. I hope that I can become involved with this list again as I once was. Be patient..and forgiving ;) iain short wrote: Dan's flies have landed safe. Still waiting to hear from Reuven _* *_ _*SECOND Traditional Winged Wet Fly Swap*_ If you entered both swaps you only pay postage once. If you entered both swaps dress Different fly's for each swap please. Tie _ELEVEN_ flies, toe tag them,send them to me by the end of august. Enclose 3 US dollars for return postage iain short, 29 Rothesay Terrace, Bedlington, Northumbria, NE225PT. ENGLAND All flies must be clearly marked second swap ! *_Name your fly_* 1. Deb Duran - Peter Ross Variant - - ARRIVED 2. Dan Gober - Professor - - - - - - - ARRIVED 3. Iain Short - Peter Ross - - - - - - ARRIVED 4. Mark Romero - Mallard and Claret - ARRIVED 5. Garry Smith - Grizzly King - - - - - ARRIVED FIRST ( wins prize) 6. Reuven Segal - 7. Rene Zillmann - Teal Blue Silver _**_- ARRIVED 8. George Vincent - Teal Green - - ARRIVED 9. David Mason - Guinea Hen - - - - ARRIVED 11.Mike Bliss - Liberty - - - - - - - - - ARRIVED Beyond Hotmail - see what else you can do with Windows Live. Find out more. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665375/direct/01/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Fishing Report
Yesterday, my friend and I spent the day fishing for rainbow trout at a stream about 2.5 hours away from where I live. I rained heavily on the way there and I had noticed on my barometer that the air pressure had dropped back. I was still quite optimistic, as I have spent pleasant days on this stream in late September/early October in past years. We made good time and appeared to have the stream to ourselves, at least initially. We picked a spot that has produced reasonably well in the same month as in previous years, although this year, the water level was a bit lower than usual. I took one rod set up for fishing a nymph and attached a caddis imitation Czech nymph to the leader and another smaller rod set up for fishing a dry fly. Since it was fairly cool and not yet mid morning, we both started to fish nymphs as there was no apparent surface or hatch activity apart from the occasional mayfly or caddis fluttering around. After as while, my partner spotted a rise right up against the far bank. Try as I might, it was a bit too far for me to cast to with my light cane rod. Another disadvantage was that it was difficult to get a good drag free drift of any length due to the faster currents between me and the target. My partner tried to swing his nymph into the spot but was experiencing similar difficulties. After a good try, we decide to give up and wade down stream as far as we could see to get to another pool that my partner had fished several years previously. There was no path and so we slowly made our way downstream as the river had widened out and was fairly shallow, although we had to swap from side to side. It took about half an hour on more to get there and took a few casts on the way, but generally it was too shallow for fish to take up residence. We eventually arrived at the pool and it was evident immediately that this pool was quite unlike the last as the surface was much smoother, the water gin clear and more like a spring creek. We started to notice several smaller tan/grey mayflies and several rising fish. I figured that the best way to approach these fish was to position myself downstream of them and start at the most downstream rising fish. I crouched down tight to the bushes and slowly edged my way downstream and into position. Bushes lined both sides of the stream making it necessary to wade out into the stream to allow for a back cast. Even then, it was somewhat difficult as one had to false cast parallel to the bank and then suddenly change direction on the forward stroke of the final cast. This was reasonably successful and I put my fly pretty much were I wanted it to go. I waited for the expectant rise and..waited some more. Several cast later, I changed flies, as I was sure that I was covering the fish close enough. Still nothing so I changed flies again and again and again. I degreased my tippet for the last 6 inches before the fly and when that didn't work, put the lightest tippet material on that I had with me which was 5.5X, but still nothing. The mayflies were hatching out for quite some time, their sail-like wings prominent as they were swept downstream or disappeared in a resounding rise. By now, we were really scratching our heads. Thinking of the prominent wing, I attached a wally-wing mayfly that I knew was too big (probably a size 12)but I had nothing in that particular style. On second cast, the fly was flopped over on its side with the wing on the water and before you could say Jack Robinson a fish rose to it. I struck and felt nothing, however I discovered that the tippet was caught under the tail of the fly which had caused it to tip over. It was impossible to set the hook as the tippet was caught around the bend of the hook and I must have pulled the fly out of the fish's mouth with the point facing backwards. Moving on to the the next spot downstream, therer was a small creek that entered the stream with the usual large snag in the shape of a large log sticking out of the deepest part of the pool. Fish were active as was observed by the many fast splashes at the surface of this rough and fast piece of water. I won't call them rises because there were no insects or other things visible that they were rising to. I tried various dry flies again without so much as a sniff! My partner tried a nymph and then a large Griffiths gnat fished just under the surface. He had a couple of brief pulls but no real contact. I tried comparaduns in various sizes and colours down to size 16, Harrop duns, parachute adams, Fran Betters the Usual and still more which have always worked in the past but not today. I was totally beaten. Perhaps my flies should have been smaller - maybe size 18- 20 even, especially in the Spring Creek pool. I have no idea what the fish were feeding on in the last place as I could see nothing on the surface. It was very humbling and frustrating experience and I'm not sure what I have learned as I have yet to figure out what was happening.
[VFB] Re: U Tube Chili Demon
Great video Tony. I'll have to tie a few and try them in Canada. Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada _ From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Spezio Sent: October 7, 2009 6:00 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Cc: flyfishingandflytyingforpanf...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [VFB] U Tube Chili Demon Got a video on U Tube. Here is the link Here's the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfX9G3m9tOUfeature=channel_page http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfX9G3m9tOUfeature=channel_page Arkansas Tony --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] RE:Both wet fly swaps
Iain: Did you ever hear from John C. Bennett [jcbenn...@lifetime.com] re status his flies? Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada _ From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of iain short Sent: October 10, 2009 1:57 PM To: VFB-new Subject: [VFB] Both wet fly swaps Still waiting for one set of flies to arrive. They were posted in Bali (I think) so it is taking some time to arrive, and the Brit Post Office is having industrial action problems will give it a little longer to sort and return iain _ Have more than one Hotmail account? Link them http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/167688463/direct/01/ together to easily access both. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] FW: Singlebarbed
Very Powerful and well worth viewing Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada _ From: noreply+feedpr...@google.com [mailto:noreply+feedpr...@google.com] On Behalf Of Singlebarbed Sent: October 11, 2009 5:13 AM To: nev.gosl...@shaw.ca Subject: Singlebarbed Singlebarbed http://singlebarbed.com http://fusion.google.com/add?source=atgsfeedurl=http://feeds.feedburner.co m/Singlebarbed _ We http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Singlebarbed/~3/Rus57Mu5Zaw/ 're grinding up more than we're making Posted: 10 Oct 2009 05:12 AM PDT Ouch http://singlebarbed.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Endoftheline.jpg Powerful, controversial, and completely riveting. A sobering look at the state of the world's oceans and the long term impacts to the planet. End http://www.babelgum.com/browser.php#play/SEARCH_SIMILAR,clipID:3020264,incl udeClip:true,order:MOST_RELEVANT/0,3020264 of the Line - Episode 1 End http://www.babelgum.com/browser.php#play/SEARCH_SIMILAR,clipID:3020495,incl udeClip:true,order:MOST_RELEVANT/0,3020495 of the Line - Episode 2 - European Union End http://www.babelgum.com/browser.php#play/SEARCH_SIMILAR,clipID:3021384,incl udeClip:true,order:MOST_RELEVANT/0,3021384 of the Line - Episode 3 - Heroes and Villains End http://www.babelgum.com/browser.php#play/SEARCH_SIMILAR,clipID:3021616,incl udeClip:true,order:MOST_RELEVANT/0,3021616 of the Line - Episode 4 - Rest in Peace End http://www.babelgum.com/browser.php#play/SEARCH_SIMILAR,clipID:3021926,incl udeClip:true,order:MOST_RELEVANT/0,3021926 of the Line - Episode 5 - The Power of Consumers End http://www.babelgum.com/browser.php#play/SEARCH_SIMILAR,clipID:3023399,incl udeClip:true,order:MOST_RELEVANT/0,3023399 of the Line - Episode 6 - The Future of Fish It's part Philip Glass, part Danny Elfman, and, at the sight of a mere dorsal fin, part John Williams. Music coats shots of everything from hundreds of fish flopping in nets to graphs denoting the steep decline in certain fish species. After 10 minutes, I got it: Things are bad. Docu-activism at its finest - guaranteed to make you set down your Tuna sandwich and reach for something man-made .. like a Twinkie. Tags: End of the Line, sustainable fisheries, salt water fish, Twinkie http://feeds.feedburner.com/~ff/Singlebarbed?a=Rus57Mu5Zaw:jZcNwdPXAtU:yIl2 AUoC8zA http://feeds.feedburner.com/~ff/Singlebarbed?a=Rus57Mu5Zaw:jZcNwdPXAtU:V_sG LiPBpWU http://feeds.feedburner.com/~ff/Singlebarbed?a=Rus57Mu5Zaw:jZcNwdPXAtU:l6gm wiTKsz0 http://feeds.feedburner.com/~ff/Singlebarbed?a=Rus57Mu5Zaw:jZcNwdPXAtU:gIN9 vFwOqvQ http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/Singlebarbed/~4/Rus57Mu5Zaw You are subscribed to email updates from Singlebarbed http://singlebarbed.com To stop receiving these emails, you may unsubscribe http://feedburner.google.com/fb/a/mailunsubscribe?k=8B1P5CkHEI-sqtl2NBhFe_U WDP8 now. Email delivery powered by Google Google Inc., 20 West Kinzie, Chicago IL USA 60610 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Both wet fly swaps
As expected, but did he ever tell you that he was dropping out? Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada _ From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of iain short Sent: October 10, 2009 11:59 PM To: VFB-new Subject: [VFB] Re: Both wet fly swaps Dropped out _ From: nev.gosl...@shaw.ca To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] RE:Both wet fly swaps Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 18:32:41 -0700 Iain: Did you ever hear from John C. Bennett [jcbenn...@lifetime.com] re status his flies? Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Both wet fly swaps- swap #1 flies of the week
Don O You certainly did get carried away! I started out fishing with wet flies but now I never use them, but since this swap, I now carry a few of them with me when fishing for trout. (picture removed to save bandwidth) Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada _ From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Don Ordes Sent: October 10, 2009 6:58 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Fw: [VFB] Both wet fly swaps- swap #1 flies of the week Gang, These are the flies I sent Iain (he said OK to post) for the 1st winged wet fly swap (mixed bag), submitted for the 'Flies of the Week' photo: They represent my 1st efforts at traditional wet flies in at least 20 years, so don't be too critical. I was having fun, tying a different fly each time. Was more material handling time than tying time. Strange thing...I didn't have to buy anything- had everything and then some in storage. I was only in swap #1, but I got carried away- really enjoyed tying these. With some practice... Oh, and Buggs' contribution were the 4 McDonald's burgerflies in the left column bottom. Copy photo to photo shop, navigate in zoom for close views of each fly. DonO --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Wapsi Fire
The fire was in 1987 unless thay have had more than one fire http://www.wapsifly.com/thefire.html Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada _ From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of chuckalexan...@hughes.net Sent: October 13, 2009 10:54 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: auction Tony: Exactly.I believe in 1975 or 76 it said. But the reason he moved it to that particular location (according to the website i think it was) is because he drew a 100 mile diameter on the map and he thought that was the best fishing in the country. Chuck Please see our fly fishing hand made furled leaders at: http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/you_wear_it_well_W0QQ_nkwZQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZQQ _ipgZ - Original Message - From: Anthony mailto:bambot...@yahoo.com Spezio To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 6:30 AM Subject: [VFB] Re: auction Chuck, Tom moved the operation here after a fire destroyed the operation in Iowa, I think it was. My brain just is not sure.Wapsi was the name of the river there. Tony --- On Tue, 10/13/09, chuckalexan...@hughes.net chuckalexan...@hughes.net wrote: From: chuckalexan...@hughes.net chuckalexan...@hughes.net Subject: [VFB] Re: auction To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, October 13, 2009, 4:15 AM Oh, and the guy who owns Wapsi. The reason he set up shop in Mt. Home Arkansas, is that he took out a map, took a compass, and found a place in the US that had within either a 50 or 100 mile radius (I forget the exact mileage) that had THE best fishing in the US (in his opinion) and that turned out to be Mountain Home. True story. Chuck Please see our fly fishing hand made furled leaders at: http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/you_wear_it_well_W0QQ_nkwZQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZQQ _ipgZ - Original Message - From: Mark Romero To: virtual fly box Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 3:38 AM Subject: [VFB] Re: auction Chuck, consider yourself lucky..can you imagine what it's like for me livin' in B.F. Arkansas after a life in San Francisco, N.Y.C., and travellin' all over the world for years.and now be stuck in THIS HOLE! rotflmao..actually, i think it's blessing..lmaolmao.. ...lmao. http://gfx2.hotmail.com/mail/w4/pr01/ltr/emoticons/smile_sick.gif http://gfx2.hotmail.com/mail/w4/pr01/ltr/emoticons/smile_nerd.gif http://gfx2.hotmail.com/mail/w4/pr01/ltr/emoticons/smile_tongue.gif http://gfx2.hotmail.com/mail/w4/pr01/ltr/emoticons/smile_confused.gif http://gfx2.hotmail.com/mail/w4/pr01/ltr/emoticons/smile_embaressed.gif http://gfx2.hotmail.com/mail/w4/pr01/ltr/emoticons/smile_teeth.gif http://gfx2.hotmail.com/mail/w4/pr01/ltr/emoticons/smile_zipit.gif in that orderLMFFAO http://gfx2.hotmail.com/mail/w4/pr01/ltr/emoticons/smile_tongue.gif _ From: chuckalexan...@hughes.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: auction Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 03:09:56 -0500 Man, Those are some BEAUTIFUL fisherwomen LOL. Where oh where are the ones that look like that in Alabama??? hahhaa, Chuck BO.. Ouuuchhh.. Dang Billie.. you didn't have to hit me upside the head with that skillet LOLOL Please see our fly fishing hand made furled leaders at: http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/you_wear_it_well_W0QQ_nkwZQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZQQ _ipgZ - Original Message - From: Mark Romero To: virtual fly box Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 2:40 AM Subject: [VFB] auction For those who were lucky enough to meet April Vokey at the recent FFF Southern Council Conclave.good for you. She was tyin' at the Mt. River Fly Shop booth during Conclave and really impressed me with her Steelhead flies. She's a real sweetheart as well. And a bit of a little celeb in terms of her world wide appeal...lmao. She's a way serious looker. More importantly, she has an auction goin' on Facebook at her Fly Gals page. It's to benifit the British Columbia (she's Canadian) Steelhead Society and it's a VERY important cause. i'd just like to encourage ALL of you to do whatever you can for that cause. If we don't, who will? i'm bidding on an item and have also donated my website logo fly, attached here. You can find out more bout April at, http://www.flygal.ca http://www.flygal.ca/ or go to Facebook and type in Fly Gal Ventures and then go to Photos and click there to see the auction and bid or donate, or both. Tkx. guys. mark. http://gfx2.hotmail.com/mail/w4/pr01/ltr/emoticons/smile_wink.gif _ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. Get it now. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222986/direct/01/ BR --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send
[VFB] Wapsi's Move to Arkansas
In 1978, Tom and Ann moved their family and Wapsi to Mountain Home, Arkansas. The promise of milder climate, great fishing, and new facilities provided the incentive. http://www.wapsifly.com/history.html Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Hair swap- buffalo mane, FYI Polar bear
Buggs: Stop taking the Mickey of our most senior and respected member! _ From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Spezio Sent: October 15, 2009 10:51 AM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Hair swap- buffalo mane, FYI Polar bear Thanks Buggs, I needed that reminder. Tony --- On Thu, 10/15/09, Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com wrote: From: Don Ordes f...@tribcsp.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Hair swap- buffalo mane, FYI Polar bear To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, October 15, 2009, 10:11 AM I tied with some buffalo some years ago, can't remember what it was. Tony Yes, Tony, your memory is getting short. It was buffalo. Buggs - Original Message - From: Anthony Spezio Tied with some Buffalo some years ago, can't remember what it was. There goes my memory again. Tony --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: heres another alexandra on a size 8 i think lol
It must be smaller than a size eight because I can't see it! Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada _ From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark Romero Sent: October 18, 2009 2:05 PM To: virtual fly box Subject: [VFB] Re: heres another alexandra on a size 8 i think lol Patrick, rememberthe single MOST important thing (technically speakin'), in ALL of fly tyin', is thread control. It ALL begins and ends with thread control. And practice may never make perfect. But it sure WILL help you reach some degree of excellance. Now do 100 more of them.oh, what thread are you using? Also, get yourself a bottle of Griff's Thin.that's the best thing you can use for your first coat when your finishing your heads.a very liberal coating of Griff's Thin for the first coat and ONLY first coat. http://gfx2.hotmail.com/mail/w4/pr01/ltr/emoticons/smile_wink.gif Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 20:50:48 + From: mystikalra...@frontiernet.net To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] heres another alexandra on a size 8 i think lol --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Wingers
Hey Don: I have a small patch of feathers on the skin that Whiting came out with a few years ago. I think that they were called wingers but I don't see them listed at Line's End. Do you know if they are still available? Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada Hope sees the invisible, feels the intangible, and achieves the impossible. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
FW: [VFB] Wingers
DonO Please disregard - I have found them. I looked under Whiting but they were in the bargains Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada Hey Don: I have a small patch of feathers on the skin that Whiting came out with a few years ago. I think that they were called wingers but I don't see them listed at Line's End. Do you know if they are still available? Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada Hope sees the invisible, feels the intangible, and achieves the impossible. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Wingers
It is the bargain Bin - top left home page. Scroll down - below the Daiichi Hooks etc Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada -Original Message- From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Don Ordes Sent: October 26, 2009 1:43 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Wingers Nev, Couldn't find the 'bargains' on the web site. ?? DonO --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: ok update on the ronn lucas sr lessons
Looking good! Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Record Grayling...
Wow Nick, that's a huge grayling! Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada _ From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Niclas Runarsson Sent: October 31, 2009 4:03 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [Shaw Suspected Junk Email] [VFB] Record Grayling... Night fishing a few days ago and caught one heck of a grayling. Released it quickly... so I can catch it again tonight. LOL /Nick --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Out bid.....
You have a warped sense of humour! Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada _ From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of J Balmer Sent: November 1, 2009 7:45 AM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Out bid. I'd like to sell sandwiches @ my tying station, right now, it's in my kitchenJ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Prayer Request Please
Jimi Condolences for your loos and prayer heading your way. Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada -Original Message- From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Desert Eagle Sent: October 31, 2009 10:08 PM To: VFB Subject: [VFB] Prayer Request Please Just got the call that my Mom died just a bit ago. Theresa and I are trying to work out the logistics of getting there. My sister Lynn will be leaving out of Arkansas tomorrow after her daughter arrives from Ten. to accompany her. Jimi --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: Christmas Fly Swap
Is hair from one's Honey-Dear OK? http://gfx2.hotmail.com/mail/w4/pr01/ltr/emoticons/smile_wink.gif Just bugging you! Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada _ From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of iain short Sent: November 2, 2009 11:25 AM To: VFB-new; Chris Broomell; Chris Broomell; Deb Duran Subject: [VFB] Christmas Fly Swap Christmas Fly Swap Simple - you only tie one fly and send me the digital photo of it. I will put it on both my photobucket and flickr photo sites in a dedicated christmas fly swap album. I will post the web addresses so everyone can see the flies. no money, no posting flies, just tie one and email the photo with instructions to me Any fly as long as you can photograph it but must contain dear hair 1. Iain 2. 3. 4. 5. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~--- inline: smile_wink.gif
[VFB] Peggy Brenner's Hopper Swap
I picked up the hopper swap flies from my PO Box just across the Canada/USA border today. Great set of hoppers. After reading Harrison Steves III's book on foam flies late this summer, I became very interested in foam hopper and the like. In fact I now possess the best supply and variety of hoppers that I have ever had. DonO's bright chartreuse sheeps wool Katydid looks very realistic, in fact I'm sure that I saw it move its legs. So thank to Peggy Brenner for organizing the swap and also thanks to Joyce Westphal who obtained the dressing for John Foust's Baler hopper for me, although this was not part of this particular swap. Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada Hope sees the invisible, feels the intangible, and achieves the impossible. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Johan Put
Vear realistic artistic, but too good to use! Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada -Original Message- From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Niclas Runarsson Sent: November 4, 2009 12:43 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Peggy Brenner's Hopper Swap My friend Johan Put, realistic tyer from Netherlands, sent me a mail shortly after he had visited my foam hopper page. The pictures he attached almost blew my eyes out of their sockets. It seems that 'realistic' and 'foamistic' actually ARE compatible... /Nick --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] C F Tools
Although I like and admire quality products and own a number of C F fly boxes (from and end of season closeout several years ago) I think that you have hit the nail on the head this time. Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada _ From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Niclas Runarsson Sent: November 5, 2009 12:37 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Peggy Brenner's Hopper Swap The CF vise gives me a dentist or brain surgery tool impression... almost a sterilized or scientific look. It's a vise that fits the clean bench of a bacteriology professor (beside his electron microscope), not on a messy tying bench with piles of hair patches and bird skins. It suits Johan though, where he's sitting at the show tying the spectacular flies that he does. A Barracuda or a Dingo vise would almost make him look like the bacteriology professor student, sitting at home doing his homework using something his father borrowed from his work at Caterpillar Inc. LOL Personally I think some of their stuff is a little too much. A half-hitch tool for $34.95, dubbing brush for $39.95, a hair stacker for $59.95. Not that I doubt the quality (and all of their stuff has a cool look), but in my opinion there's still a point where the value in money passes the practical value. I can't see how those tools will live up to their price tags... and I can't see how their (or any) vise can live up to a $799.95 price tag either. A little 'Rolex syndrome' I would say. But that's me. I like the father's tool from Caterpillar Inc.-type anyway. Now I'm going to go and pet my bulldozers for a while. LOL /Nick --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: C F Tools
I started in 1974 with a crest tools vise, which I still have but it needs repair. Prior to that, I'm not sure what I used, probably hemostats: My next vise was a Regal Inex purchased from Dan Bailey in 1984 for $45.00 new. I now use the Regal for tying tube and steelhead/salmon flies. I find that it is better with large hooks than small; My ex-wife gave me a very nice Dyna-King Voyager original model with the delrin base that is too lightweight, but good for travel and I take it on my trips; Then I went with a Renzetti Traveler original model with screw adjustment and I got on well with it; Then I received an old Veniard midge vise with some other older tying materials that my sister bought in an auction in England; I also have a no name El Cheapo that came in a small plano box of tackle that one of my neighbours gave me; Finally, in Feb 2009 I went to a fly fishing show Bellevue Seattle where I watched Norm Norlander tying with his Nor-Vise and I was hooked. Upon my return home, I started looking around for a secondhand Nor-vise and eventually got one a month or so later. Prior to that, I wanted but never got a Barracuda. I haven't looked back since! Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada _ From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Niclas Runarsson Sent: November 5, 2009 1:46 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: C F Tools I like and admire quality tools too. Like most I have climbed the price ladder. Today I'm sitting with a Dyna-King Barracuda and a Dyna-King Supreme... and with these two I'm at the point where I don't even look at other vises with the please Santa look. I'm 100% satisfied and can't imagine that I would be more satisfied even if I walk further up the price ladder. The CF costs more than twice as much as my Barracuda... but there's no chance that it will do twice as much for me as the Barracuda. /Nick --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: in case
Spoken by a man who has done just that! Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada _ From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of iain short Sent: November 10, 2009 9:42 AM To: VFB-new Subject: [VFB] Re: in case Nh, twisting is easy. Nail in a bench gut ends knotted. other end knotted or loops on a cup hook, hook turned in electric screwdriver. soak gut first in boiling water to soften then twist. leave overnight to dry. _ From: markflie...@hotmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: in case Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:44:04 -0700 Not a bad idea Iain.but i'd still have to twist it right? And actually, i think i'm prolly set for life at this point.i've got al kinds of gut now, from a whole lotta sources and 90% of it is already twisted. Twisting is not the problem.it's the time involved to do it. Timethe most precious and hard to come by thing we got...nowhere near enough ofDamn shame we need to sleep. http://gfx2.hotmail.com/mail/w4/pr01/ltr/emoticons/smile_wink.gif --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Tubes part 1
Alan and others This is my set up. The nylon leader material is tied directly to the hook and around the hook shank several turns. When pulled tight, it butts up against the hook eye and hangs straight. Only the eye of the hook is placed into the clear tubing which is also attached to the end of the tube. Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada Hope sees the invisible, feels the intangible, and achieves the impossible. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~--- attachment: Tubes 003.jpg
[VFB] Tubes Part 2
These are some home made tubes made with brass or copper tubing from a model shop and suitable sized plastic tubing insert. I just heat the ends of the plastic insert with a needle in place to keep the tube open. Also shown is a Eumer tube fly tool for holding the tube and to stop it rolling over when applying the dressing. The thin traingular section is inserted in a standard vise. (I use a Regal Inex.) Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada Hope sees the invisible, feels the intangible, and achieves the impossible. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~--- attachment: Tubes.jpg
[VFB] Re: Reeling left-handed
I am right handed and I cast with my right hand and reel in with my left. To me, casting and holding the rod with my dominant hard/arm is more important than reeling-in. That is why all my Hardy Perfects are the more expensive and difficult to obtain left hand wind models, as are my all spinning reels and baitcast reels. Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada _ From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Spezio Sent: November 20, 2009 7:00 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: Reeling left-handed I find doing it tat way is easire for me too. Tony --- On Fri, 11/20/09, Jimmy D. Moore ray...@earthlink.net wrote: From: Jimmy D. Moore ray...@earthlink.net Subject: [VFB] Re: Reeling left-handed To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, November 20, 2009, 1:57 PM That's really what I do Tony. I rarely reel a fish in, unless it's a big one and I have to regain line that I've lost. Guess I just didn't explain myself correctly. JIMMY Anthony Spezio wrote: Jimmy, Next time on the stream, strip with your left hand and let the line lay on the water, try controlling the line through your left hand and stay off the reel. See if that works for you. That is what I do. Actually I slip the line between my index finger and the grip. The drag is controlled there and the left hand feeds the line. This may not be the right way of doing it but it works well for me. Tony -- -- º * JIMMY D. MOORE, Amateur Radio Station WB5RHT- FREE Classic Antique Golf Club Evaluation Author - Moon Holler Misfits Fishing Hunting Club, Humorist, Past VP Guadalupe River Trout Unlimited, Member TOWA, North Zone Fishing Editor Emeritus, Texas Fish Game Magazine, Scout Exec. BSA, Ret. Website - http://bigtroutman.tripod.com/index.html * º --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] simple tube holder
Photo 004 shows a large salmon hook with the loop eye removed; Photo 005 shows a tube jammed on the shank of the eye-less hook ready to be dressed. There is sufficient friction to prevent the tube from rolling. As Iain pointed out, a blind eye salmon hook would be better still as the shank has a taper to it. Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada Hope sees the invisible, feels the intangible, and achieves the impossible. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~--- attachment: Tubes 004.jpgattachment: Tubes 005.jpg
[VFB] unsubscribing
I am unsubscibing for a short while as I am leaving for my niece's wedding. Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] Re: unsubscribing
Don: I am having the same difficulty as you. if I send a message to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com it is returned undeliverable. I also tried going to http://www.virtualflybox.com/list/info.php and unsubscribed. I received an acknowledgement that I had unsubscribed successfully but I am still receiving messages. IT appears that unsubscribe is not working. Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada _ From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of murphdaw...@verizon.net Sent: November 21, 2009 9:47 AM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Re: unsubscribing How are you going about that if I may ask? Don Murphy On Nov 21, 2009, Neville Gosling nev.gosl...@shaw.ca wrote: I am unsubscibing for a short while as I am leaving for my niece's wedding. Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[VFB] test
This is a test to see if I have successfully set to no e-mail. Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada Hope sees the invisible, feels the intangible, and achieves the impossible. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: [VFB] Back Home
Hello Jack! Where have the Virtual Flybox web pages gone? Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada Everything... -Original Message- From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Neville (Nev) Gosling Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 4:19 PM To: VFB Mail Cc: nev.gosl...@shaw.ca Subject: [VFB] Back Home I arrived back in Canada yesterday after visiting relatives in the UK since late November. I googled for Byard's Virtual Flybox to sign back on but was unable to find it and so had to go to google groups webmail to sign back on. What have I missed Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, BC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
[VFB] VFB Site
Hi Don: Do you know if all the fly tying recipies were saved? What about the swap images? It seems a real shame if all this information is lost or unaccessible. Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada He wan not involved with the VFB site for some time, so he just broke the link. He still has Linesend up for suscribers, though I don't know if he's still responding to orders. D -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
RE: [VFB] Back Home
Allan You are dead right they are! Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada I tell you, the good old days are right now!! a. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
RE: [VFB] Polar Bear
I'm jealous! Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada _ From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Harmen Boshuis Sent: January 8, 2010 1:52 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Polar Bear Just thought I would share my find (buy) of the day. Harmen _ No infection found in this outgoing message Scanned by iolo System ShieldR http://www.iolo.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
[VFB] VFB Then Now
Just hold on a moment! The general trend in this conversation is that the VFB list is not what it used to be because it has less members now than in its heyday. The implication is that this problem of a diminishing number of members is peculiar to VFB, but I can assure you that is not. Roll back to 1995 when this list was born. I too have been a VFB member since the start. I was on Ross Parnell's list sponsored by Fly Fisherman Magazine, which closed down for a period due to the need for a server replacement and lack of funding for same. Shortly after, Byard Miller sent out invitations to various people to join his new list VFB which I did. Now fast forward to today. There are now hundreds of similar lists. Many use the Forum approach like Flybc.ca, Speypages (http://speypages.com/speyclave/) and Flyangler.ca while others use the email like VFB and FF@ which is my personal preference. I was a member of a European fly fishing list and the server was located in Germany. It folded. In Canada we have a list called CANFF which as far as I know is still available but totally inactive. Flyby.ca on the other hand is hyper-active. I am currently the President of the Totem Flyfishers, British Columbia's first and oldest fly fishing club formed under the tutelage of the late author, Roderick Haig-Brown. Formed in 1967, we are now experiencing difficulty in attracting new and younger members. British Columbia now has many fly fishing clubs spread throughout the Province. This membership problem is not confined to the Totem Flyfishers, but other clubs as well. The net Result? Although there are more people interested in fly fishing, they are more spread out and can select a club or list, forum etc that appeals to their particular interest like spey fishing. When Byard set up VFB his mail order business followed shortly after. Byard was a good friend of Murph and when Murph died suddenly, Byard's interest in VFB seemed to wane. In the early days, Byard organized huge caddis fly swaps on an annual basis for a while with 100 flies to be submitted by each participant. The last such swap was 2002. Byard is now more interested in bird photography and that's fine, but his dis-association with VFB has, in my opinion, had some affect. In summary, lack of membership and input is not peculiar to VFB. Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
RE: [VFB] Dying Experiments
Harmen: I need some marine mamal (PB) the same colour as the left for some intruder flies. Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada _ From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Harmen Boshuis Sent: January 26, 2010 11:37 AM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Dying Experiments The one on the left was done with blue food coloring. The one on the right was done with the blue food coloring (not quite as darkly) and then over dyed with Vienards flouresent pink (used small amount of pink dye). - Still wet and should look better when dry. The blue is - Liquid Blue Food Color by Dawn Food Products Canada Ltd. Harmen _ No infection found in this outgoing message Scanned by iolo System ShieldR http://www.iolo.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
[VFB] VFB Then Now -Suggestion
David: This is a quote taken directly from my Jan 2010 newsletter sent to my fellow club members I returned from the United Kingdom just three days ago after my longest ever stay in the UK since coming to Canada in 1972. Every time that I go back, I find things just that little bit different. It is no longer the same country that I left all those years ago, but then again, neither is the Canada that I returned to the same as the one I came to in 1972. Canada has become more urbanized over the years. While in the UK, I read a book by W.D. Wetherell entitled North of Now that discusses country life in New Hampshire and Vermont, and the fact that country life is changing and in many cases disappearing. The quotation Change is inevitable. Change is Constant is attributed to Benjamin Disraeli and is so true. I believe that in order to continue as a strong and respected club, the Totem Flyfishers must also change, but change is stressful and tends to invoke resistance. Traditions are important and comfortable, so how does one balance retaining important traditions with change? Another quote, this time by Niccolo Machiavelli states; Whosoever desires constant success must change his conduct with the times. I believe that we must adapt with the times in order to attract new and younger members. In my opinion, the present average age of members is too great and we must bring in new and if possible younger persons in order to have a group of younger like-minded members to pass the club on to. I am pleased to say that I believe that we are just beginning to make a little progress in this area and I ask each of you to diligently look out for potential new members as we go forward into 2010. So, in answer to your question, I think that the VFB must change in order to attract more members. Although I prefer the e-mail list, I suggest that we TRY the forum approach. Just take a look at this http://speypages.com/speyclave/ and look at the number of posts and threads. http://www.flybc.ca is similar. That's my 2 cents worth. Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada _ From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Colyn Sent: January 26, 2010 12:04 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] VFB Then Now Well said Nev. Have any solution to the well defined problem?? I sure dont. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
RE: [VFB] VFB Then Now -Suggestion
_ From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Colyn Sent: January 26, 2010 1:00 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] VFB Then Now -Suggestion Neville I hear you, however. (oops) Does one (collective) need the introduction of new ideas (blood) to maintain the health of the genepool? Yes, I believe we need both new ideas, topics ect. and new members - not at the expense of the experienced members but in addition to. Genetics 101. Duh, yes, from a stagnation point of view, however (oops again) the ability to think out of the box, or burn the bloody thing, as the likes of Don, Jimmy or Tony do every now and then, seems to indicate that the ability to regenerate internally, is a malaligned ability. And here we face the reality of conservatisim vs liberalism, can this be done internally, as shown by our mentors, or do we toss out the baby with the bathwater? What are you actually trying to say here? I have watched the world of fashion and glamour photography develop over a number of years, (dont try, I aint gonna tell you how many), and what astounds me, is the reinvention of the same ideas/themes over a approx 30 - 40 yr cycle (ya, argue me for a decade or so) look at what Annie Liebowitz did with the 'Stones, think you can find me a parrallel today... Flies are reinvented all the time with minute variations. I'm not sure what point you are trying to make. It's all been done before, you just gotta find a new way of packaging it for today. Clark Goddard.. just look at what is popping up on Hans Weilenmans' site currently. I visit Hans site from time to time as I feel it is makes for great reference material. I have just gone back to have a look and what I see are new people and their flies being featured, but that is something that has been going on ever since Hans started the site. Yes it has been done before (the flies that is) but Han's site is a very effective medium for display. I'm NOT argueing against the reinventors, we all have to be. But the old soaks, knew a thing or two before they couldnt wade the streams any more. I'm not denying that they don't know a thing or two however, as we age we tend to get somewhat stuck in our ways. Change is stressful and is generally resisted, but change is constant whether we like it or not. This is very evident in my fly fishing club which is almost 43 years old. Welcome the new, but PLEASE, not at the expence of the more experienced. That is not my intention or suggestion at all. I am merely suggesting TRYING a change in format from e-mail list to a forum. The experienced members can still access and comment on a forum. Your mileage may vary Mr. Gosling, but hear a man with some miles on the clock. Call me Nev not Mr. Gosling With respect Nev, please, no offence intended, even if you imagine it so That's better. No offence taken or implied. Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada -- David 2010/1/26 Neville Gosling nev.gosl...@shaw.ca David: This is a quote taken directly from my Jan 2010 newsletter sent to my fellow club members I returned from the United Kingdom just three days ago after my longest ever stay in the UK since coming to Canada in 1972. Every time that I go back, I find things just that little bit different. It is no longer the same country that I left all those years ago, but then again, neither is the Canada that I returned to the same as the one I came to in 1972. Canada has become more urbanized over the years. While in the UK, I read a book by W.D. Wetherell entitled North of Now that discusses country life in New Hampshire and Vermont, and the fact that country life is changing and in many cases disappearing. The quotation Change is inevitable. Change is Constant is attributed to Benjamin Disraeli and is so true. I believe that in order to continue as a strong and respected club, the Totem Flyfishers must also change, but change is stressful and tends to invoke resistance. Traditions are important and comfortable, so how does one balance retaining important traditions with change? Another quote, this time by Niccolo Machiavelli states; Whosoever desires constant success must change his conduct with the times. I believe that we must adapt with the times in order to attract new and younger members. In my opinion, the present average age of members is too great and we must bring in new and if possible younger persons in order to have a group of younger like-minded members to pass the club on to. I am pleased to say that I believe that we are just beginning to make a little progress in this area and I ask each of you to diligently look out for potential new members as we go forward into 2010. So, in answer to your question, I think that the VFB must change in order to attract more members. Although I prefer the e-mail list, I
[VFB] VFB Then Now -Suggestion
_ From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Don Ordes Sent: January 26, 2010 1:14 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] VFB Then Now -Suggestion Nev., Someone has to host and moderate those type forums, right? The VFB used to have a chat-room, and that was fun when people participated. What would it take, and from whom, to implement this approach? Initially, Byard was the moderator for this group. Since Byard now has different priorities I am sure he wouldn't have the time for it. I haven't looked in to hosting - however, when this group was hosted by Byard's chosen server (Jacobs I believe), he had an auction site, a chat room AND a forum site. I posted a couple of times to the forum and I remember seeing Byard's initial posts there but it never took off. What I could not understand is why he ran both an e-mail listserver and a forum on the same subject. perhaps he was trying to find out what people wanted. I, for one, don't see a problem with this site and the way it works. Again, the ease of posting photos is a huge asset if it is used. As I said before, I prefer e-mail but the Forum style seems to be more effective. Technically, Byard asked us NOT to post photos for the benefirt of those persons on dial-up. It was in the Rules. Real quick- on my soap-box, and off again. I've trained draftsmen, designers, engineers, and plant operators for near 30 years- in seminar-style environments and 1-on-one. I too have noticed a big difference in the attitudes of students, from the old hands to the new hands. The old hands are used to participating and putting something in to get something out. I won't say this is catagorically true, but the new generation seems to want to sit there and have everything delivered (ready to microwave in 20 seconds to eat, so to speak). I know this from my training seminars of operators, comparing the seminars of 20 years ago to those of today, then comparing the older ones in the seminars to the newer ones. So much is taken for granted these days. Is this a social phenominon brought on by quick-sell no-effort promotional tactics, and the fast-access/results internet? It seems flyfishermen would NOT fit this bill, as they would go out and buy flies, not tie them, if they were 'lazy', but they are not. I tend to agree, and the younger people today in fly fishing learn very fast and continue those expectations. Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada Off my box again. DonO - Original Message - From: Neville mailto:nev.gosl...@shaw.ca Gosling To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 1:40 PM Subject: [VFB] VFB Then Now -Suggestion David: This is a quote taken directly from my Jan 2010 newsletter sent to my fellow club members I returned from the United Kingdom just three days ago after my longest ever stay in the UK since coming to Canada in 1972. Every time that I go back, I find things just that little bit different. It is no longer the same country that I left all those years ago, but then again, neither is the Canada that I returned to the same as the one I came to in 1972. Canada has become more urbanized over the years. While in the UK, I read a book by W.D. Wetherell entitled North of Now that discusses country life in New Hampshire and Vermont, and the fact that country life is changing and in many cases disappearing. The quotation Change is inevitable. Change is Constant is attributed to Benjamin Disraeli and is so true. I believe that in order to continue as a strong and respected club, the Totem Flyfishers must also change, but change is stressful and tends to invoke resistance. Traditions are important and comfortable, so how does one balance retaining important traditions with change? Another quote, this time by Niccolo Machiavelli states; Whosoever desires constant success must change his conduct with the times. I believe that we must adapt with the times in order to attract new and younger members. In my opinion, the present average age of members is too great and we must bring in new and if possible younger persons in order to have a group of younger like-minded members to pass the club on to. I am pleased to say that I believe that we are just beginning to make a little progress in this area and I ask each of you to diligently look out for potential new members as we go forward into 2010. So, in answer to your question, I think that the VFB must change in order to attract more members. Although I prefer the e-mail list, I suggest that we TRY the forum approach. Just take a look at this http://speypages.com/speyclave/ and look at the number of posts and threads. http://www.flybc.ca is similar. That's my 2 cents worth. Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada _ From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Colyn Sent:
[VFB] Then Now -Suggestion response
Hi Tony: This was David Colyn's response to my original Then Now Well said Nev. Have any solution to the well defined problem?? I sure dont. .and so I anwered him by saying what I believe and that is that forums (or bulletin boards if you like the word better) seem to have greater following than e-mail lists. I suggested TRYING forum style. I expected resistance, because people resist change because it is not comfortable. I doubt that many VFB members have really looked at the forum pages that I listed previously. If you go to this forum http://forum.flybc.ca/ you will come to a page of subjects or topics - In this case, fly tying is fourth from the top. If one clicks on that, your come to a page with a huge variety of more specific topics and just choose what takes your interest. http://forum.flybc.ca/index.php?showforum=13 another good example can be found below http://speypages.com/speyclave/showthread.php?t=38433 now scroll down just a little and you will com to a black screen entitled SPTV (Spey Pages TV) click on the arrow in the middle of the screen, turn on your speakers and watch a superb video on wader safety from Simms. The point I am trying (not very successfully) to make is that these modern forums are what today's younger anglers look for because the are far more versatile than an e-mail list and can show videos and photos with no problem. Tony, you and I are friends athough we have never met in person. I have a great deal of respect for you and for some of the other long time members. However, to quote your words.. Like you, I just don't think a forum will be a good thing. I for one just can't handle it. I believe that you could handle a forum if you wanted to, but the key is wanting to. I like the e-mail list format but it is outdated and not as versatile as other methods. The forum is not as intimate as an e-mail list. Perhaps Google Wave or something like it will eventually replace e-mail. Just my 2 cent worth. Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
RE: [VFB] Greenwells Glory
Dail: It is a furnace hackle. Normally they are light to mid brown with a dark centre section. Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada _ From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dail Graham Sent: January 30, 2010 10:18 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory pacres- yes tied by McPhail.What is greenwells feather? I can not find any listing my catalogs. Thanks for answering. Dail - Original Message - From: Pacres mailto:pac...@gmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 11:42 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] Greenwells Glory Was this the video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7akiUJmLXM Materials are listed at the begining. On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 12:03 AM, Dail Graham d...@positech.net wrote: Help I saw a U Tube video on tying a wet fly called Greenwell's Glory. The recipe was not clear. What feathers are used on this fly? I know someone on this list has the answer. Thanks, Dail Graham __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4821 (20100130) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com http://www.eset.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com http://www.linesend.com/ -- http://flytyer.wordpress.com - The Daily Fly Tyer -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4821 (20100130) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
[VFB] RE: Vises
Well said Nick! Neville (Nev) Gosling, Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada _ From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Niclas Runarsson Sent: February-10-10 1:46 PM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [spam] Re: [VFB] Vises A 'good vise' is a vise that the individual likes and feels comfortable with. I wouldn't consider a $700 vise a 'good vise' if I didn't like it... maybe still a 'good quality vise', but not a 'good vise'. If... *... the individual is forgiving and doesn't care much about hooks slipping now and then... *... the individual is forgiving and doesn't care much about parts wobbling... *... the individual isn't a mass producing tyer needing high quality steel in the jaws to make it last longer than a week... ... even the cheapest vise can be a very 'good vise'. 'Good quality' vises should hold hooks well, not have wobbling parts, be able to last for a long time etc etc. There are many many vises qualifying as 'good quality' vises. But from a list of quality vises, there's noone who can tell you which one you will feel comfortable with. I have a Griffin Montana Mongoose in one of my drawers, which by many is considered a pretty good quality vise. I can just see it as a piece of junk... a collection of design flaws... and an ergonomical nightmare. I have discussed this vise a lot with Chris Helm, who shares my opinion to 100%. (Quote) The Montana Moosegoose should be melted down and sold for scraps. (unquote) He doesn't even sell it. Still, I know several who love their ones. I know several who love their Danvises too. I don't care much for my own, but I HAVE liked it very much once. Today I use a couple of Dyna-Kings which I feel more comfortable with... while the guy I meet every week at our tying night is tying at the same vise model he has used for the last 20 years... the one he made in his own garage. He is on his THIRD one now, which starts to show signs of wanting to get a rest. Which will be his next one? Will it be a Dyna-King... Renzetti perhaps... or maybe even a LAW? Hardly... LOL Hans Weilenmann said it best: One man's dream is another man's nightmare. /Nick -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] För Bob Scarbrough Skickat: den 10 februari 2010 21:39 Till: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Ämne: [VFB] Vises Dont know if the previous message went through. I have a question about vises, whats a good one and whats not? Why should I pay $700 for a vise when a $80 will work? I have a Danvise and am happy with it, but its the only one I own so I dont know the difference. Bob Scarbrough _ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. Get it http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469230/direct/01/ now. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
[VFB] RE: Picric -
The BIG question is where can one obtain some in Canada? - and I better not try while the Olympics are on or I will get arrested. Last week the police and security closed the streets and evacuated an area of North Vancouver due to a supicious object. It was blown up with the aid of a robot. It turned out to be a fishing rod in a tube. Does the lifetime warranty apply? Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada Picric acid is 2,4,6-tri-nitrophenol. As with other highly nitrated products, it is an explosive. However, it's also a BRILLIANT yellow with a slight orange tint and makes a great dye. In the early years of its discovery (1700's, that's what it was used for. Widipedia says its first use as an explosive was in the mid-1800's. Probably when some clumsy chemist dropped a bottle of it and it went boom! Chemistry lesson over. Now you can go back to your regular programming. a. -- Allan Fish Greenwood, IN afi...@sbcglobal.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
[VFB] How to join
Don: That is not correct. You can sign up via google groups as I did when I came back from the UK and couldn't find the VFB website. Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada -Original Message- From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Don Ordes Sent: February 20, 2010 8:54 AM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] How to join JimmyD is the site moderator. He will have to sign him up. DonO -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
RE: [VFB] How to join
Don: I suspect that it may depend upon how the group is set up initially. Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada -Original Message- From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Don Ordes Sent: February 20, 2010 9:59 AM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [VFB] How to join Nev., My eldest sister has a family Googlegroup, and I couldn't sign up until the 'Queen Bee' approved my application. This was to keep out the 'riff-raff and spammers', but she didn't realize that when she let me in, she let Buggs in too. Fooled her. Is it different now? DonO -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
RE: [VFB] Tube Fly Tying Question
Wes: You can replace a hook if it becomes damaged (usually by hitting a rock on the back cast) but the tube does not stay on if you snag and the line breaks at the knot. Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada _ From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Wes Wada Sent: February 23, 2010 7:30 AM To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Subject: [VFB] Tube Fly Tying Question Hi VFB, I've never seriously fished with tube flies, though have tied a few. Lately I have run into some applications where tube fly tying would be an asset. Descriptions of tube flies always tout that in trying to catch a fish, you can break the hook off the tippet without losing the fly. I can see that, if the fly floats, but if the fly is tied onto a metal tube, I assume the fly just sinks and you lose it anyway? Does anyone have tips on how to retain the tube portion of the fly even though the hook breaks off the tippet? Thanks, Wes Wada Bend, Oregon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
[VFB] No snow
There no snow herein Vancouver! The weather has been exeptionally good for this time of the year. Several days of blue skies and sun, however today is a bit overcast. Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada Looks like all of Vancouver's snow has decided to come to TEXAS. Started snowing at 7:30 this morning and then let up a little around 9, but coming down in big flakes right now and lots of them. Supposed to get around 5 - 6 inches by late afternoon. That much snow will cripple most of Central Texas, cause most of us don't know how to drive in it. JD -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
[VFB] tubes
Wes, I've never tied or fished tube flies, but I like to solve problems. First of all, what are the advantages (assets) of tube flies, so that the solution doesn't negate the advantages of the tube fly? 1. Fly moves up leader and doesn't get chewed on. (the tube is held to the hook with the use of a short piece of junction tubing. This is flexible and prevents leverage and will come free with a lively fish.) 2. Hook styles and sizes, etc. can be changed and still use the same fly 3. Tied carefully, a tube can provide a large silhouette but remain fairly sparse which helps it to sink faster. 4. Tubes can be short or long which affects the weight and are normally made of plastic, aluminum, copper or brass. One can therefore control the depth that the tube is fished at. 5. Mikael Frodin has come up with the Fits tubing system and a regular cone or the new large diameter Fits cones can he added to the plastic tube to as Mikael puts it make 'em swim better see http://globalflyfisher.com/reviews/books/bookbase/show_single.php?id=176 6. A Finnish company Eumer has a similar tube system - see http://eumer.com/index.php?name=ProductBrowser http://eumer.com/index.php?name=ProductBrowsernodeIDX=136parentIDX=1root IDX=0 nodeIDX=136parentIDX=1rootIDX=0 7. Not really suitable for trout except large piscivorous fish. 8. It's fun, but not always as easy as it looks. 9 See attachment showing junction tubing. Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada And so on... then we list the drawbacks: 1. Lose the hook and lose the fly (sinking fly only) 2. 3. Then we try to solve the drawbacks without messing with the advantages. Neville (Nev) Gosling Greater Vancouver, B.C. Canada Hope sees the invisible, feels the intangible, and achieves the impossible. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VFB Mail group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.comattachment: tube fly set up.JPG
