Bluetooth On/Off with SIRI

2012-09-20 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Avnish,

SIRI can open apps, but at this point you cannot turn Bluetooth or WiFi on
and off using SIRI, at least not officially.

However, there is a work-around which would involve you buying an app for
$0.99 called Bluetooth X by CXI Gaming. This is Bluetooth one word and
then a space and then the letter x. When I originally downloaded this app
back in June it was called BluetoothC but I think they must have renamed
it and I am actually amazed Apple hasn't pulled it off the app store since
they usually don't allow such apps.

Anyhow, now with SIRI's ability to open apps, I am able to simply say
Bluetooth and bingo, the Bluetooth app launches and if you set up the 
Quick Mode under Settings and Bluetooth and by that I mean the entry
for the Bluetooth app, not the system Bluetooth, then just launching the app
will turn on Bluetooth, launch the app again and it will turn it off. I used
to have this app on my home screen, but now I can tuck it away into my
Utility folder or somewhere out of the way since I can launch it with SIRI.
Oh, and I did check just now and the app was on the app store and my above
described search term will pull it up. Once again, it's from CXI Gaming and
it costs 99 Cents, the version I had on my iPhone before I upgraded to iOS 6
works perfectly well after the upgrade so I assume it would do so as well if
you buy and install it now.


Regards,
Sieghard


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Re: ios on 3gs

2012-09-20 Thread hannah day
Hi I have updated mine and it's ok it's about the same last update but 
with a few improvements



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Hi all:

Does anyone updated his or her iphone 3gs? I need to know before updating.

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Fwd: Dan Moren on iOS 6

2012-09-20 Thread David Chittenden
A very complete review of the new iOS update. 

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Begin forwarded message:

 From: Geoff Nicholls tangoge...@gmail.com
 Date: 20 September 2012 11:37:25 NZST
 To: Rob Weston rav_wes...@hotmail.com, David Chittenden 
 dchitten...@gmail.com
 Subject: Dan Moren on iOS 6
 
 http://www.macworld.com/article/2010065/review-refined-ios-6-highlighted-by-stunning-maps-overhaul.html
 
 
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Bluetooth On/Off with SIRI

2012-09-20 Thread AppleGourmet
Wow! That's just great!
Now do you have any gizmo to done Wi-Fi on or off to?? Thanks I'm hoping you 
will know :-)

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Re: horrible fuzzy noise, iOS 6

2012-09-20 Thread Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
David,

I had came to the same conclusion, golly, the none HQ voice synth file is 
horrid, how can anyone put up with that hissy business?
On 20 Sep 2012, at 00:40, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:

 That means VO removed the high-quality voice during the update. It then 
 downloaded the HQ voice again.
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 20/09/2012, at 7:08, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav for...@talknav.com wrote:
 
 interestingly, it happened on both of our iPHone 4S's, however, after they 
 had been locked for 10 or so minutes, stopped this behaviour and went back 
 to their usual good sounding synth quality.
 
 we use the HD synth versions.
 On 19 Sep 2012, at 18:56, Cristobal crismuno...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Are you using the compact or high quality voice? Did you by any chance get
 switched back to the high quality voice if you were in fact using the
 compact option previously? 
 
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 Subject: horrible fuzzy noise, iOS 6
 
 Hi All,
 
 Just updated my iPHone 4S to iOS 6, UK synth voice, there is now a horrid
 hissing noise whenever the synth finishes talking, it even changes hissing
 level as speech finishes.
 
 anyone else got this?
 
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US english voice in IOS 6

2012-09-20 Thread Chi Ming Chung
hi all,
just found that the US english samantha voice's peatch is a  bit lower
in it's compact voice
anyone know that how to fix  it?

Ming

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RE: Few iOS 6 usage notes

2012-09-20 Thread Jonathan Mosen
No, you can't do either. Kind of odd, really.   

Jonathan 

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Hi! Does Siri now turn Bluetooth  on or off? Also can I   ask Siri   to turn
why buy on or off? Thank you!
Avnish

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Re: VoiceOver performance iOS 6

2012-09-20 Thread David Chittenden
What iOS device and model are you using? If an older device, I would be 
surprised if VO wasn't more sluggish. 

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 I have noticed Voiceovr is sluggish with iOS 6, any ideas? Also VoiceOver 
 seems to lag when tracking where a user is realitive to the screen? Anyone 
 else have these issues? Ideas or thoughts
 
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Re: VoiceOver performance iOS 6

2012-09-20 Thread Marissa
iOS 6 , iPhone 4S 16GB

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Where can I find iOS6

2012-09-20 Thread Rahul Bajaj
Hi all, 

I wish to download iOS 6, but I can't seem to find it anywhere in the app 
store.. 
So, where can I locate it? 

Cheers, 
Rahul 

Typed with Fleksy



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RE: Where can I find iOS6

2012-09-20 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi Rahul, the easiest way to get it is to use your phone and go to settings,
General, Software update. You'll find it there.
 
Jonathan

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Hi all, 

I wish to download iOS 6, but I can't seem to find it anywhere in the app
store.. 
So, where can I locate it? 

Cheers, 
Rahul 

Typed with Fleksy http://fleksy.com/app 




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Re: Where can I find iOS6

2012-09-20 Thread Kimberly
You can find it under settings , general on your phone. It's called software 
update.

Sent from Kimber's iPhone

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 Hi all, 
 
 I wish to download iOS 6, but I can't seem to find it anywhere in the app 
 store.. 
 So, where can I locate it? 
 
 Cheers, 
 Rahul 
 
 Typed with Fleksy
 
 
 
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Re: Fleksy

2012-09-20 Thread Kimberly
I'm not seeing this at all. In fact fleksy seems particularly snappy with the 
update. What device are you using?

Sent from Kimber's iPhone

On Sep 19, 2012, at 7:19 PM, Robert Fenton robert.fen...@samobile.net wrote:

 Fleksy is very sluggish after ios update. 
 
 Hello. I have noted long delays between tapping my phone and the keyboard 
 clicks. Delays can be up to half a second. When you type quickly, some 
 keystrokes are missed altogether. This problem really takes away from the 
 effectiveness of this app. The problems are happening on my four s. What have 
 others found? Thanks. 
 
 Bob Fenton
 
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Re: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.

2012-09-20 Thread David Chittenden
Changing rotor is dots 2 3 chord or dots 5 6 chord. Single finger vertical 
flick is up and down arrows if your display has arrows. I don't know the focus 
alternatives, but am willing to bet it's one of the thumb rocker bars which are 
activated with the thumb whilst reading. 

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On 20/09/2012, at 14:11, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:

 Theresa,
 
 How does one bring up the Rotor on the Braille display?  
 
 For some reason, I just don't remember the command.
 
 Mark
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Teresa Cochran
 Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 6:32 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.
 
 Hi, Mark,
 
 Vertical navigation is in the rotor. Unfortunately, it doesn't work in
 IBooks.
 
 One thing I like about using the Focus 40 blue with IBooks now is that the
 rotor switches to navigation mode when on the page chooser, so it's possible
 to flip pages with the wheel. Then I just pan left once and I go to the top
 of the page.
 
 The new functionality is taking some getting used to, but I think it will
 work for me. For me it's not a deal-breaker in any case.
 
 Teresa
 
 On Sep 19, 2012, at 5:30 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:
 
 Hello Jonathan,
 
 This is Mark Taylor.
 
 How does one set vertical navigation and how will this benefit we 
 Focus 40 Blue users?
 
 Thank you,
 
 Mark
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen
 Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 3:19 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.
 
 Hi Cheryl, could you not set the rotor to verticle navigation?
 
 Jonathan
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Cheryl Lenartiene
 Sent: Thursday, 20 September 2012 10:09 a.m.
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.
 
 Hi Jonathan,
 
 Thanksfor this. The key assignments were very helpful. I'm not saying 
 the new key assignments won't work for everyone. I'm just saying that 
 they don't work for me. I am literally unable to move up and down by 
 line and have to pan left and right by display width to navigate. When 
 I need to scroll through something quickly, this is not a practical 
 way to do it. So, for me, it really is unusable. I'm not flying off 
 the handle, I'm not being irrational; I'm not even afraid of something 
 new. It really, truly doesn't work for me because of the way VoiceOver
 behaves.
 
 Cheryl
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jonathan Mosen
 Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 5:57 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.
 
 Apple has changed the key assignments for the Focus products in iOS6. 
 The best thing to do until an FSCast comes out on this, is to press 
 K-cord to invoke keyboard help, then press the keys to understand what
 they now do.
 
 People can of course offer feedback to Apple on the new assignments, 
 but to say it's unusable is I think a bit of a stretch. It's just 
 different. Some people will find it better, others not, but it is still
 very much useable.
 
 Here's a summary that may assist.
 
 Router Row Double tap the selected item.
 Status Router Row Toggle expanded status description.
 Left Nav Rocker/Whiz-wheel Up Move to previous item using rotor setting.
 Left Nav Rocker/Whiz wheel Down Move to next item using rotor setting.
 Left Mode Button/press whiz wheel Select item under your finger.
 Right Nav Rocker/whiz wheel Up Move to previous item.
 Right Nav Rocker/whiz wheel Down Move to next item.
 Right Mode Button/press whiz wheel Select item under your finger.
 Left Panning Pan braille to the left.
 Right Panning Pan braille to the right.
 Left Selector Activates a Back button if present.
 Right Selector Start/Stop Toggle
 Left Rocker Up Scroll up one page.
 Left Rocker Down Scroll down one page.
 Right Rocker Up Scroll left one page.
 Right Rocker Down Scroll right one page.
 
 Jonathan
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Cheryl Lenartiene
 Sent: Thursday, 20 September 2012 9:44 a.m.
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.
 
 Hi,
 
 I don't like the new key assignments for the Focus 40 Blue in iOS6 
 either. I have the Classic, and I don't like having to use the Whiz 
 Wheels to pan by line, because the rocker bars now swipe instead. 
 VoiceOver jumps all over the place when I try to navigate using Whiz 
 Wheels on my iPhone 4. If I move up or down one click, VoiceOver focus 
 will jump back and forth over a span of four or five lines, and after 
 a few seconds, may eventually land where it is supposed to.
 
 Although I can appreciate the thought and hard work that went into 
 

Is Wi Fi essential?

2012-09-20 Thread sensex
I am nowhere near a wi fi and I wanted to upgrade to 6.0 
How can I do it over 3G ? Please let me know how to disable the wi fi essential 
for download message. Thanks :)

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Re: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.

2012-09-20 Thread David Chittenden
I hope your thumb wheels are not going bad. What you describe is what my old 
PACMate thumb wheels did as they were failing. 

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On 20/09/2012, at 14:50, Darla Rogers djrogers0...@gmail.com wrote:

 Very good points, Cheryl; I'll just leave things as they are then.
 
 Darla  Precious Roxy
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Cheryl Lenartiene
 Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 8:37 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.
 
 Hi Annie,
 
 I understand. Here is an example of why I say the new key assignments are
 unusable. I was in TweetList trying to read down my tweets. I pushed the
 right whiz wheel down once, not to scroll, but just to try to move one line.
 
 Sometimes, it would stay on the same line. Sometimes, it would jump up to
 the prior line or further. Sometimes, it would jump down a couple of lines. 
 And here's the clencher: Once, rolling the Whiz wheel down landed me smack
 in the status bar at the very top of the screen. Only once, out of my 10 to
 15 attempts to move downward, did I successfully move down a single line.
 
 I've had this happen more than once when trying to navigate through folders
 on my homescreen, including mysteriously landing in the status bar, as well.
 
 That's why I say, these key assignments are unuseable. It should not take 15
 attempts to move down one line. It's ridiculous.
 
 Cheryl
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Annie Skov Nielsen
 Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 6:27 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.
 
 Hi.
 
 I agree with you. To me it is unuseble too. I will really get problems to go
 to the next display line with my focus display. The only bottun that can go
 to the next line is the button in the wright end, and that will course
 problems with my hand, if I will have to use that button all the time.
 
 
 What really worked with the focus display, is for me totally broken.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 
 
 Den Sep 20, 2012 kl. 12:08 AM skrev Cheryl Lenartiene 
 dash...@loveable.com:
 
 Hi Jonathan,
 
 Thanksfor this. The key assignments were very helpful. I'm not saying 
 the new key assignments won't work for everyone. I'm just saying that 
 they don't work for me. I am literally unable to move up and down by 
 line and have to pan left and right by display width to navigate. When 
 I need to scroll through something quickly, this is not a practical 
 way to do it. So, for me, it really is unusable. I'm not flying off 
 the handle, I'm not being irrational; I'm not even afraid of something 
 new. It really, truly doesn't work for me because of the way VoiceOver 
 behaves.
 
 Cheryl
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jonathan Mosen
 Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 5:57 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.
 
 Apple has changed the key assignments for the Focus products in iOS6. 
 The best thing to do until an FSCast comes out on this, is to press 
 K-cord to invoke keyboard help, then press the keys to understand what
 they now do.
 
 People can of course offer feedback to Apple on the new assignments, 
 but to say it's unusable is I think a bit of a stretch. It's just 
 different. Some people will find it better, others not, but it is 
 still very much useable.
 
 Here's a summary that may assist.
 
 Router Row Double tap the selected item.
 Status Router Row Toggle expanded status description.
 Left Nav Rocker/Whiz-wheel Up Move to previous item using rotor setting.
 Left Nav Rocker/Whiz wheel Down Move to next item using rotor setting.
 Left Mode Button/press whiz wheel Select item under your finger.
 Right Nav Rocker/whiz wheel Up Move to previous item.
 Right Nav Rocker/whiz wheel Down Move to next item.
 Right Mode Button/press whiz wheel Select item under your finger.
 Left Panning Pan braille to the left.
 Right Panning Pan braille to the right.
 Left Selector Activates a Back button if present.
 Right Selector Start/Stop Toggle
 Left Rocker Up Scroll up one page.
 Left Rocker Down Scroll down one page.
 Right Rocker Up Scroll left one page.
 Right Rocker Down Scroll right one page.
 
 Jonathan
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Cheryl Lenartiene
 Sent: Thursday, 20 September 2012 9:44 a.m.
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.
 
 Hi,
 
 I don't like the new key assignments for the Focus 40 Blue in iOS6 either.
 
 I
 have the Classic, and I don't like having to use the Whiz Wheels to 
 pan by line, because the rocker bars now swipe instead. VoiceOver 
 jumps all over the place when I try to navigate using Whiz Wheels on 
 my iPhone 4. If I move up or down one click, VoiceOver focus will jump 
 back and forth over a span of four or five lines, and after a few 
 

Re: new keyboard behaviour

2012-09-20 Thread Shawn Krasniuk
Hi. I also like this new keyboard behavior. I'm glad that it pretty much does 
the same thing as Fleksy where you just tap on a letter and it types it. So 
with that being said, I don't see the point of having the app if the keyboard 
does what we've been wanting it to do all this time.
My update was pretty successful, got an error message about it failing to 
install the update for some reason though. At least it worked the second time. 
I'm just having trouble with the App store now. How do you change pages if 
swiping left or right doesn't work?

Shawn
Sent from my white Mac Book

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Re: new keyboard behaviour

2012-09-20 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,


I'm confused.  The IOS keyboard with Voiceover has had that overall ability 
since IOS 4.  Its just that now, you touch type includes shift, delete, more 
numbers, etc.  Fleksy is more about its capability to predict text.

Ricardo Walker
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Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Sep 20, 2012, at 4:28 AM, Shawn Krasniuk bigbigshawn@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi. I also like this new keyboard behavior. I'm glad that it pretty much does 
 the same thing as Fleksy where you just tap on a letter and it types it. So 
 with that being said, I don't see the point of having the app if the keyboard 
 does what we've been wanting it to do all this time.
 My update was pretty successful, got an error message about it failing to 
 install the update for some reason though. At least it worked the second 
 time. I'm just having trouble with the App store now. How do you change pages 
 if swiping left or right doesn't work?
 
 Shawn
 Sent from my white Mac Book
 
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Re: new keyboard behaviour

2012-09-20 Thread Rob Harris
This is one of the most succinct and meaningful descriptions of the change 
so far.
- Original Message - 
From: Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 9:38 AM
Subject: Re: new keyboard behaviour


Hi,


I'm confused.  The IOS keyboard with Voiceover has had that overall ability 
since IOS 4.  Its just that now, you touch type includes shift, delete, more 
numbers, etc.  Fleksy is more about its capability to predict text.

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Sep 20, 2012, at 4:28 AM, Shawn Krasniuk bigbigshawn@gmail.com 
wrote:

 Hi. I also like this new keyboard behavior. I'm glad that it pretty much 
 does the same thing as Fleksy where you just tap on a letter and it types 
 it. So with that being said, I don't see the point of having the app if 
 the keyboard does what we've been wanting it to do all this time.
 My update was pretty successful, got an error message about it failing to 
 install the update for some reason though. At least it worked the second 
 time. I'm just having trouble with the App store now. How do you change 
 pages if swiping left or right doesn't work?

 Shawn
 Sent from my white Mac Book

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Re: Difficulty with Activating Links in an iBooks Book

2012-09-20 Thread Scott Howell
I have also communicated to APple with the issue and exact steps to reproduce. 
If they responded then  you can bet they will work on the issue. May not happen 
tomorrow, but it will be addressed.

On Sep 19, 2012, at 10:13 PM, Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com wrote:

 I received email from Apple sayhing they can replicate the problem and
 are working on a solution.  The reply was not detailed, but it came
 quickly, and I am reassured that Apple is aware of the problem.
 
 Craig
 
 On 9/16/12, Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com wrote:
  After much experimenting, I have concluded that I can't get 
 iBooks
 links to activate and plan to write to accessibil...@apple.com soon.
 Here is what I have discovered.  If anyone can report different
 results, please let me know.
 
 Problem:  When trying to activate a link in iBooks 2.1.1 that takes a
 user to a different page of the book than the one being read, the
 Double-tap gesture produces no results.
 
 There is no links option on the rotor within the iBooks app.
 Therefore, if a user wants to try to activate a link, he/she must stop
 reading the text and go to the words or characters options of the
 rotor, flick down until the title of the link is heard, and do a
 double-tap.  I have tried tapping at several places on the line that
 lists a particular link, all to no avail.  Damashe suggested that
 links with other information on the same line might cause troubles,
 and it is true that in the case of the iBook links I have been working
 with, there is other information on the line, such as two
 greater-than signs and a comma, but this information is not
 contiguous to the title of the link.  At any rate, regardless of where
 I double-tap on the line, I get no results.  The
 double-tap-and-hold pass-through gesture does pop up a menu of
 options, but these have to do with the word being selected, not with
 the link itself.
 Craig
 
 On 9/12/12, Damashe Thomas damashe.tho...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 This doesn't always work as sometimes the usual roter options are not
 always
 
 available in iBooks for me. Also, the double tap and hold doesn't work at
 all for navigation links that are supposed to move you to another part of
 the book. I am not sure if this is an accessibility issue or one related
 to
 
 formatting of a particular book or PDF as in some cases, the links work
 just
 
 fine and other times they don't.
 - Original Message -
 From: David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 3:50 PM
 Subject: Re: Difficulty with Activating Links in an iBooks Book
 
 
 Hello,
 
 When you use up and down flicks along with the rotor to navigate on to
 the
 
 exact link, use a double-tap and hold (pass-through gesture) to tell the
 iOS device you want to work specifically with the link. A menu of
 options
 
 should pop up.
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 11/09/2012, at 14:25, Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Thank you, Dameshe and Scott, for weighing in.  I am going to get
 sighted help tomorrow and do some more experimenting.  Dameshe, from a
 character by character search of lines containing links, it certainly
 appears that any line containing a link carries other information
 besides the name of the link, including greater than signs
 signifying the presence of a link.  I'll be back with an update soon.
 
 Craig
 
 On 9/10/12, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote:
 Although this is not exactly related to this specific issue, I have
 found
 that trying to activate links in books using iBooks, while using a
 Braille
 display results in VoiceOver crashes and the link is never activated.
 I would be curious if anyone has had any success with speech and/or
 Braille
 when activating links. I think this is something that needs to be
 brought to
 APple's attention and I would encourage you to do so by e-mailing
 accessibil...@apple.com.
 
 On Sep 10, 2012, at 1:07 PM, Damashe Thomas damashe.tho...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 I have had a few books with links that didn't work. What seems to
 have
 happened is that the link isn't on a line by itself, usually I have a
 comma or some other punctuation. It's like if someone emails you a
 link,
 as onlg as that links text is all on one line you can usually click
 it.
 But if I wrote the url like this,
 www.google.coj,
 and you receive it with the comma after the m in .com, you can not
 activate that link.
 Try moving your finger down the screen til you get to the link then
 double
 tap it. If this method doesn't work, then I am afraid you have other
 punctuation or something on the line with the link.
 Sorry for the rambling message, hope it helped some.
 - Original Message - From: Craig Werner
 coffeeb...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2012 6:54 AM
 Subject: Difficulty with Activating Links in an iBooks Book
 
 
 

Re: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.

2012-09-20 Thread Annie Skov Nielsen
Hi Mark.

You are reading braille exactly as i am reading. I have asked apple for the 
possibility to reverse paning buttons since IOS 4, but nothing hapens.

I am really disappointed with apple in this case. The only thing I really like 
about focus 40 blue is these whiz wheels or a sort of rocker buttons that they 
have been changed to in the new focus.

Best regards Annie.
Den Sep 20, 2012 kl. 2:36 AM skrev M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu:

 Hello Annie,
 
 As a Focus user, I concur with you.
 
 The best thing about the Focus is the Wiz Wheels and being able to use them
 with either hand.
 
 I read Braille with my Right hand and truly enjoyed using my left Wiz Wheel
 to scroll through documents.  
 
 Even allowing us to reverse the panning buttons would be an improvement over
 the current situation.
 
 Unfortunately, I updated both my 4 and my 4 S to iOS 6.  Would that I had
 known such a key assignment change was in store, I would not have updated my
 4.
 
 Oh well.
 
 I encourage all of you to send this issue to accessibil...@apple.com
 
 Mark
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Annie Skov Nielsen
 Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 3:28 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.
 
 Hi.
 
 I agree with you. To me it is unuseble too. I will really get problems to go
 to the next display line with my focus display. The only bottun that can go
 to the next line is the button in the wright end, and that will course
 problems with my hand, if I will have to use that button all the time.
 
 
 What really worked with the focus display, is for me totally broken.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 
 
 Den Sep 20, 2012 kl. 12:08 AM skrev Cheryl Lenartiene
 dash...@loveable.com:
 
 Hi Jonathan,
 
 Thanksfor this. The key assignments were very helpful. I'm not saying 
 the new key assignments won't work for everyone. I'm just saying that 
 they don't work for me. I am literally unable to move up and down by 
 line and have to pan left and right by display width to navigate. When 
 I need to scroll through something quickly, this is not a practical 
 way to do it. So, for me, it really is unusable. I'm not flying off 
 the handle, I'm not being irrational; I'm not even afraid of something 
 new. It really, truly doesn't work for me because of the way VoiceOver
 behaves.
 
 Cheryl
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jonathan Mosen
 Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 5:57 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.
 
 Apple has changed the key assignments for the Focus products in iOS6. 
 The best thing to do until an FSCast comes out on this, is to press 
 K-cord to invoke keyboard help, then press the keys to understand what
 they now do.
 
 People can of course offer feedback to Apple on the new assignments, 
 but to say it's unusable is I think a bit of a stretch. It's just 
 different. Some people will find it better, others not, but it is still
 very much useable.
 
 Here's a summary that may assist.
 
 Router Row Double tap the selected item.
 Status Router Row Toggle expanded status description.
 Left Nav Rocker/Whiz-wheel Up Move to previous item using rotor setting.
 Left Nav Rocker/Whiz wheel Down Move to next item using rotor setting.
 Left Mode Button/press whiz wheel Select item under your finger.
 Right Nav Rocker/whiz wheel Up Move to previous item.
 Right Nav Rocker/whiz wheel Down Move to next item.
 Right Mode Button/press whiz wheel Select item under your finger.
 Left Panning Pan braille to the left.
 Right Panning Pan braille to the right.
 Left Selector Activates a Back button if present.
 Right Selector Start/Stop Toggle
 Left Rocker Up Scroll up one page.
 Left Rocker Down Scroll down one page.
 Right Rocker Up Scroll left one page.
 Right Rocker Down Scroll right one page.
 
 Jonathan
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Cheryl Lenartiene
 Sent: Thursday, 20 September 2012 9:44 a.m.
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.
 
 Hi,
 
 I don't like the new key assignments for the Focus 40 Blue in iOS6 
 either. I have the Classic, and I don't like having to use the Whiz 
 Wheels to pan by line, because the rocker bars now swipe instead. 
 VoiceOver jumps all over the place when I try to navigate using Whiz 
 Wheels on my iPhone 4. If I move up or down one click, VoiceOver focus 
 will jump back and forth over a span of four or five lines, and after 
 a few seconds, may eventually land where it is supposed to.
 
 Although I can appreciate the thought and hard work that went into 
 this update, the unintended consequences, for me at least, are that 
 Braille is virtually unuseable on my phone. At the very least, it's 
 not practical. So, I plan to downgrade back to iOS5.1.1, if I can figure
 out where to get it.
 
 Cheryl
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Annie Skov Nielsen
 

Re: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.

2012-09-20 Thread Cheryl Lenartiene
Hi David, 

You bring up a valid concern that I started to have as I kept playing with the 
whiz wheels last night. I found that if I moved them a hair's breadth, I could 
mostly move down one line, but this would not work if I moved down one full 
click. 

Unfortunately, I use programs at work that work with braille but not at all 
with speech, so even though I have a PMA, having my unit serviced is nod an 
option. I was planning to wait until I went on vacation to have it cleaned to 
at least minimize the work downtime a bit. So if it really is failing, 
unfortunately, it will have to wait for now. 

Still, none of this changes the fact that we no longer have dedicated functions 
to move up and down by line. Having to go into the rotor to affect a navigation 
key's function is a bad design, in my opinion. 

Cheryl 
Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 20, 2012, at 4:25 AM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:

 I hope your thumb wheels are not going bad. What you describe is what my old 
 PACMate thumb wheels did as they were failing. 
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 20/09/2012, at 14:50, Darla Rogers djrogers0...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Very good points, Cheryl; I'll just leave things as they are then.
 
 Darla  Precious Roxy
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Cheryl Lenartiene
 Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 8:37 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.
 
 Hi Annie,
 
 I understand. Here is an example of why I say the new key assignments are
 unusable. I was in TweetList trying to read down my tweets. I pushed the
 right whiz wheel down once, not to scroll, but just to try to move one line.
 
 Sometimes, it would stay on the same line. Sometimes, it would jump up to
 the prior line or further. Sometimes, it would jump down a couple of lines. 
 And here's the clencher: Once, rolling the Whiz wheel down landed me smack
 in the status bar at the very top of the screen. Only once, out of my 10 to
 15 attempts to move downward, did I successfully move down a single line.
 
 I've had this happen more than once when trying to navigate through folders
 on my homescreen, including mysteriously landing in the status bar, as well.
 
 That's why I say, these key assignments are unuseable. It should not take 15
 attempts to move down one line. It's ridiculous.
 
 Cheryl
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Annie Skov Nielsen
 Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 6:27 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.
 
 Hi.
 
 I agree with you. To me it is unuseble too. I will really get problems to go
 to the next display line with my focus display. The only bottun that can go
 to the next line is the button in the wright end, and that will course
 problems with my hand, if I will have to use that button all the time.
 
 
 What really worked with the focus display, is for me totally broken.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 
 
 Den Sep 20, 2012 kl. 12:08 AM skrev Cheryl Lenartiene 
 dash...@loveable.com:
 
 Hi Jonathan,
 
 Thanksfor this. The key assignments were very helpful. I'm not saying 
 the new key assignments won't work for everyone. I'm just saying that 
 they don't work for me. I am literally unable to move up and down by 
 line and have to pan left and right by display width to navigate. When 
 I need to scroll through something quickly, this is not a practical 
 way to do it. So, for me, it really is unusable. I'm not flying off 
 the handle, I'm not being irrational; I'm not even afraid of something 
 new. It really, truly doesn't work for me because of the way VoiceOver 
 behaves.
 
 Cheryl
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jonathan Mosen
 Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 5:57 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.
 
 Apple has changed the key assignments for the Focus products in iOS6. 
 The best thing to do until an FSCast comes out on this, is to press 
 K-cord to invoke keyboard help, then press the keys to understand what
 they now do.
 
 People can of course offer feedback to Apple on the new assignments, 
 but to say it's unusable is I think a bit of a stretch. It's just 
 different. Some people will find it better, others not, but it is 
 still very much useable.
 
 Here's a summary that may assist.
 
 Router Row Double tap the selected item.
 Status Router Row Toggle expanded status description.
 Left Nav Rocker/Whiz-wheel Up Move to previous item using rotor setting.
 Left Nav Rocker/Whiz wheel Down Move to next item using rotor setting.
 Left Mode Button/press whiz wheel Select item under your finger.
 Right Nav Rocker/whiz wheel Up Move to previous item.
 Right Nav Rocker/whiz wheel Down Move to next item.
 Right Mode Button/press whiz wheel Select item under your finger.
 Left Panning Pan braille to the left.
 Right Panning Pan braille to the right.
 

Re: Delightful Results with iOS 6 Map Navigation, So Far

2012-09-20 Thread Scott Howell
Mark,

First, why would you not use Maps over the Treker? What are the most 
significant difference or feature prevents you from using Maps over that 
device? Second, why do you say that the Maps app could not have the level of 
POIs that the ATT Navigator app has? The one thing that everyone has to 
remember is as time progresses, APple will no doubt improve and enhance the 
Maps application. I am sure transit information for example will be forthcoming 
since that is a pretty significant piece that I am sure folks would use.

On Sep 19, 2012, at 10:21 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:

 Hello Everyone,
 
 It has been a long day.  I have installed iOS 6 on 8 devices and each has
 been extremely painful.  
 
 Be that as it may, I just returned from testing the new Maps App with voice
 guided navigation.  
 
 I only went a couple of blocks, walking, but it worked like a charm.  
 
 One feature that I truly love is the ability to show a route in list mode.  
 
 A T  T Navigator offers a similar list but it is not VoiceOver accessible.
 
 
 I have not yet tested the Maps in a car yet but will do so tomorrow.  
 
 Now I'm not saying that I would choose this app over my Humanware Trekker
 solution, but I may, if my current results hold, decide to unsubscribe from
 A T  T Navigator, a service costing $9.95 a month.  
 
 One thing that Navigator does offer, however, is an amazing points of
 interest list that I doubt the Maps app can offer.
 
 The great thing about iOS is that there is something for everyone.  
 
 So, at your earliest convenience, jump in and give the new turn-by-turn
 directions a spin.  
 
 Oh, keep in mind that this feature is for iPHone 4 S and iPhone 5, only.
 
 Mark
 
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Re: new keyboard behaviour

2012-09-20 Thread Sean Paul

Heyya:
I've tried it several times  am not able to get that to work for me. Yes, 
doubletapp inserts period is  has been turned on in settings. I'll keep 
fooling around with it. Thanks much for your help.
- Original Message - 
From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 23:58
Subject: RE: new keyboard behaviour



Hi Sean,

You mean a double tap of the space bar, right? I just tried this and 
tapping

the space bar twice quickly still inserts a period as always and starts a
new sentence with the first letter capitalized. Make sure you have this
feature turned on in Settings and Keyboard.


Regards,
Sieghard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sean Paul
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 1:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new keyboard behaviour

I would also agree. I can type a bit faster as well. The triple tap to 
enter

the period will be a slow down for me though.
- Original Message -
From: Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 15:27
Subject: Re: new keyboard behaviour



Ironically, I feel differently: I've found that my typing speed is now
significantly faster because it used to be very slow to enter
punctuation, numbers, and to hastily delete a mistyped character. I
therefore am a fan of the changes.

I will say, though, that there are a couple of inconsistencies: I
would have expected the behaviour to have also changed for the enter
key, which it hasn't, and the delete key in the phone app still
retains the classic behaviour. You can't touch and hold it to activate
it.

Grant

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Re: Problems with the MLB ATBat app update

2012-09-20 Thread Sean Paul
Yes, I had this issue with the Braves, Giants, Reds, Oakland  Seattle feeds 
last evening as well. I can't speak for others as those were the games which I 
listened to at different times.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 20:19
  Subject: Re: Problems with the MLB ATBat app update


  The Dodgers broadcast plays in the background when you go to the home screen. 
The Oakland broadcast did not play for me  either.



  (Sent from Richard's iPhone)



  On Sep 19, 2012, at 4:42 PM, Cristobal crismuno...@gmail.com wrote:


Hello list,



Don’t know if anyone else is experiencing this, but after updating the iOS, 
I got a bunch of app updates. Among them was an update for MLB ATBat. I went 
ahead and updated everythign with no problems, but now that I’m trying to 
listen to a game. The Oakland VS Detroit (Oakland feed) in particular, I am 
noticing that whenever I leave the app either by pressing the home button or 
going to the app switcher, etc. the audio feed dies. Is anyone else 
experiencing this rather annoying bug?

I still haven’t gotten around to updating to iOS 6 on my iPad and 
everythign there still works as always with the audio playing in the background.




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Re: Phone app opening after unlocking seems to be fixed

2012-09-20 Thread Scott Howell
Ah! Well the phone bug is still there for me. :) I can live with this one to be 
honest. :) I just learn to keep my fingers off the screen, but hey maybe it 
depends on where you touch the screen. Glad you are not having the problem yet. 
:)

On Sep 20, 2012, at 12:10 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

 Hi List,
  
 Just noticed that I don’t seem to have that issue any more where the phone 
 app opens after unlocking and if you end up touching the screen to quickly. I 
 tried it a few times and each time after unlocking immediately touched the 
 screen somewhere and all I got was Voiceover instantly telling me what app I 
 was touching. My 4S really does appear to be super responsive.
  
 I also noticed that my battery life has gone through the roof. It’s been 
 almost 9 hours since I unplugged it and I have done quite a bit with it, 
 listened for a while to Audible, updated some apps, moved a bunch of apps, 
 used SIRI as well as Maps app briefly and I am still at 70%, before this 
 update I’d be lucky to still have 30% after this time and what I did.
  
  
 Regards,
 Sieghard
  
 
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Re: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.

2012-09-20 Thread Annie Skov Nielsen
Hi.

Might a suggestion for apple be that braille panning, should be a possibility 
in the router, when we wright handed readers could set the router on braille 
paning, when we will have to read through text, it is not the best solution, 
but it might maybe work.

Best regards Annie.
Den Sep 20, 2012 kl. 10:25 AM skrev David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com:

 I hope your thumb wheels are not going bad. What you describe is what my old 
 PACMate thumb wheels did as they were failing. 
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 20/09/2012, at 14:50, Darla Rogers djrogers0...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Very good points, Cheryl; I'll just leave things as they are then.
 
 Darla  Precious Roxy
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Cheryl Lenartiene
 Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 8:37 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.
 
 Hi Annie,
 
 I understand. Here is an example of why I say the new key assignments are
 unusable. I was in TweetList trying to read down my tweets. I pushed the
 right whiz wheel down once, not to scroll, but just to try to move one line.
 
 Sometimes, it would stay on the same line. Sometimes, it would jump up to
 the prior line or further. Sometimes, it would jump down a couple of lines. 
 And here's the clencher: Once, rolling the Whiz wheel down landed me smack
 in the status bar at the very top of the screen. Only once, out of my 10 to
 15 attempts to move downward, did I successfully move down a single line.
 
 I've had this happen more than once when trying to navigate through folders
 on my homescreen, including mysteriously landing in the status bar, as well.
 
 That's why I say, these key assignments are unuseable. It should not take 15
 attempts to move down one line. It's ridiculous.
 
 Cheryl
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Annie Skov Nielsen
 Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 6:27 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.
 
 Hi.
 
 I agree with you. To me it is unuseble too. I will really get problems to go
 to the next display line with my focus display. The only bottun that can go
 to the next line is the button in the wright end, and that will course
 problems with my hand, if I will have to use that button all the time.
 
 
 What really worked with the focus display, is for me totally broken.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 
 
 Den Sep 20, 2012 kl. 12:08 AM skrev Cheryl Lenartiene 
 dash...@loveable.com:
 
 Hi Jonathan,
 
 Thanksfor this. The key assignments were very helpful. I'm not saying 
 the new key assignments won't work for everyone. I'm just saying that 
 they don't work for me. I am literally unable to move up and down by 
 line and have to pan left and right by display width to navigate. When 
 I need to scroll through something quickly, this is not a practical 
 way to do it. So, for me, it really is unusable. I'm not flying off 
 the handle, I'm not being irrational; I'm not even afraid of something 
 new. It really, truly doesn't work for me because of the way VoiceOver 
 behaves.
 
 Cheryl
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jonathan Mosen
 Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 5:57 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.
 
 Apple has changed the key assignments for the Focus products in iOS6. 
 The best thing to do until an FSCast comes out on this, is to press 
 K-cord to invoke keyboard help, then press the keys to understand what
 they now do.
 
 People can of course offer feedback to Apple on the new assignments, 
 but to say it's unusable is I think a bit of a stretch. It's just 
 different. Some people will find it better, others not, but it is 
 still very much useable.
 
 Here's a summary that may assist.
 
 Router Row Double tap the selected item.
 Status Router Row Toggle expanded status description.
 Left Nav Rocker/Whiz-wheel Up Move to previous item using rotor setting.
 Left Nav Rocker/Whiz wheel Down Move to next item using rotor setting.
 Left Mode Button/press whiz wheel Select item under your finger.
 Right Nav Rocker/whiz wheel Up Move to previous item.
 Right Nav Rocker/whiz wheel Down Move to next item.
 Right Mode Button/press whiz wheel Select item under your finger.
 Left Panning Pan braille to the left.
 Right Panning Pan braille to the right.
 Left Selector Activates a Back button if present.
 Right Selector Start/Stop Toggle
 Left Rocker Up Scroll up one page.
 Left Rocker Down Scroll down one page.
 Right Rocker Up Scroll left one page.
 Right Rocker Down Scroll right one page.
 
 Jonathan
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Cheryl Lenartiene
 Sent: Thursday, 20 September 2012 9:44 a.m.
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.
 
 Hi,
 
 I don't like the new key assignments for the Focus 40 Blue 

Re: ios on 3gs

2012-09-20 Thread Sean Paul
Updated mine  it updated  works just fine. Took about 45 minutes at the 
height of the download storm to get it  about 30 minutes after my phone 
went off for it to come back up  start talking again.
- Original Message - 
From: Ramy Moustafa moshtaqlealga...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 18:56
Subject: ios on 3gs





Hi all:

Does anyone updated his or her iphone 3gs? I need to know before updating.

Thanks
Cheers:
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Re: Facebook and IOS 6

2012-09-20 Thread Sean Paul

Heyya Kim:
I haven't fooled with facebook on IOS6, however, I'm sure it is much like 
the twitter app. You can post to facebook using it. But to use it, meaning 
read, interact with it. You'll have to get the official app on your device 
through the App Store to do so.
- Original Message - 
From: Kim k...@woodartdesign.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 01:02
Subject: Facebook and IOS 6



Hi,

OK, I admitt I'm not a rocket scientist when it comes to technology which 
is why I'm on this list...I see that with IOS 6 there is a setting for FB 
which I took care of.  Should there then be somw sort of app somewhere?  I 
guess I don't understand what IOS 6 is giving me in regards to FB.


Thanks for filling in my blanks.

Kim

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Re: VoiceOver performance iOS 6

2012-09-20 Thread David Chittenden
Hello,

After I upgraded my iPhone 4 today, I noticed my screen curtain was not 
working. Three-finger triple-tap caused VO to announce off and on status, but 
the screen remained bright. Wonderful, I thought, such a basic VO bug. So, I 
decided I would investigate when I got home this evening. Before I could, I 
received a call. Two-finger double-tap would not disconnect the call. What was 
going on.

I turned my iPhone off to disconnect the call. It took a significantly longer 
time to start back up after shut down. When it came on again, the screen 
curtain was working fine. Also, double-tap properly ends calls again.

I suggest you turn your iPhone off and then on again. I bet it will clear up 
your VO sluggishness.


David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 20/09/2012, at 19:33, Marissa solaunmarissa2...@gmail.com wrote:

 iOS 6 , iPhone 4S 16GB
 
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Re: Where can I find iOS6

2012-09-20 Thread David Chittenden
Go to settings, general, software update.

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On 20/09/2012, at 20:02, Rahul Bajaj rahul.bajaj1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all, 
 
 I wish to download iOS 6, but I can't seem to find it anywhere in the app 
 store.. 
 So, where can I locate it? 
 
 Cheers, 
 Rahul 
 
 Typed with Fleksy
 
 
 
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Re: NFL 12- Audio Pass

2012-09-20 Thread Sean Paul
As far as I know, this is still the case this season as well. I think that 
contract ran through 2015 with VZ  the NFL.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Andy Baracco 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 21:28
  Subject: Re: NFL 12- Audio Pass


  It was always my understanding that Verizon Wireless has an exclusive content 
agreement with the NFL for distribution of content on mobile devices.

  Andy

  From: Cheryl Homiak 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 7:52 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: NFL 12- Audio Pass
  I have audiopass which I use on my computer. I had the impression that one 
might also be able to access this on the iPhone this year with the nfl '12 app 
if subscribed to audiopass but so far either this is incorrect or I haven't 
figured out how to tune into it. I do have pro football and it usually works 
though a few times I've had a feed start out and then be broken off. Also, if 
I'm at home and just want to carry the iPhone around with the game, I use 
audiopass on my computer and use airfoil from rogueamoeba to send the audio to 
my phone. 

  -- 
  Cheryl

  May the words of my mouth 
  and the meditation of my heart
  be acceptable to You, Lord,
  my rock and my Redeemer.
  (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)




  On Sep 19, 2012, at 8:35 AM, Jon Pierson joncpier...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi,
Well it hasn't had any stations from the lowly vikings so far this season
but the other team's station's always there. That's no worse than XM which
bragged originally that they carried all feeds but have now renigged on
that statement.
It reminds me almost of listening to Twins games but the portable radio in
that case was the size of the new NLS player  outweighed my iPhone by a
ton!
Pro Football Radio is a great app. Now if it synched with calendars or
reminders, something to just suck in a team's schedule, that'd be even
better.

Jon



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jesse Bollinger
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 5:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: NFL 12- Audio Pass

If I were you, I would get the Pro Football Radio app. I think it's $2.99
and it has all the game audio. Well it says not all stations broadcast the
games but I've never found one that doesn't. It's a very accessible app and
extremely easy to use. If you need any help with it, let me know.

HTH
Jesse

On 9/18/2012 3:54 PM, Robbie Miller wrote:


Hello all, 

I have installed the free NFL 12 app on my iPad. However, the Audio
Pass subscription is $29.95. 

Can anyone tell me if Audio Pass is accessible?  Is it worth the
$29.95 subscription?

Thanks for any help. 

Robbie

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Re: NFL 12- Audio Pass

2012-09-20 Thread Sean Paul
Always had good success with All Football Radio as well. Usually there are 
several stations listed for a game. So, if 1 is not working, a conflict, etc. 
You can usually find another which does have the game. The only team feed I've 
not been able to get this season is the Denver Broncos feed. However, I'm not 
the biggest NFL fan. So, I am not as particular as to which announcers I listen 
to when listening to a game as I am with baseball. So, if the Broncos were 
playing, I wouldn't mind listening to the other teams announcers. I've had a 
couple issues with College games though. For instance, the Vanderbilt stations 
which have been listed, haven't had anything on them at all. Not even any 
music. So, that seems to be some sort of streaming issue. As I went to my 
basketball App, found, Vandy,  found a streaming station in it.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Andy Baracco 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 21:22
  Subject: Re: NFL 12- Audio Pass


  The station in Portland OR that usually carries the 49ers games sometimes 
carries college basketball games once that season starts, and if there is a 
conflict, the basketball game usually wins out.
  Andy

  From: Paul Ferrara 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 6:15 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: NFL 12- Audio Pass
  Hello, All Football Radio has never let me down, college or pro games.

  Paul

  From: Jim Noseworthy 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 8:58 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: RE: NFL 12- Audio Pass

  Hello:

   

  I was unable to acquire the Mundy Night game with that program from either 
team.

   

  Cheers.

   

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jesse Bollinger
  Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 9:44 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: NFL 12- Audio Pass

   

  If I were you, I would get the Pro Football Radio app. I think it's $2.99 and 
it has all the game audio. Well it says not all stations broadcast the games 
but I've never found one that doesn't. It's a very accessible app and extremely 
easy to use. If you need any help with it, let me know.

  HTH
  Jesse

  On 9/18/2012 3:54 PM, Robbie Miller wrote:

Hello all, 

 

I have installed the free NFL 12 app on my iPad. However, the Audio Pass 
subscription is $29.95. 

 

Can anyone tell me if Audio Pass is accessible?  Is it worth the $29.95 
subscription?

 

Thanks for any help. 

 

Robbie

 

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Re: Is Wi Fi essential?

2012-09-20 Thread David Chittenden
Well, you could do it over 3G if you have a computer. Because the update is 599 
MB, you cannot upgrade directly over 3G. Note that there is some risk if you 
tether your iPhone and use a computer with iTunes. I almost bricked my phone 
last year using this method, and had to find an ethernet connection to complete 
the set-up.

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 I am nowhere near a wi fi and I wanted to upgrade to 6.0 
 How can I do it over 3G ? Please let me know how to disable the wi fi 
 essential for download message. Thanks :)
 
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Re: Phone app opening after unlocking seems to be fixed

2012-09-20 Thread David Chittenden
Hello,

Try rebooting your phone to clear out residuals. It worked for me to get rid of 
two 'ghost bugs' after my update.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 20/09/2012, at 21:28, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ah! Well the phone bug is still there for me. :) I can live with this one to 
 be honest. :) I just learn to keep my fingers off the screen, but hey maybe 
 it depends on where you touch the screen. Glad you are not having the problem 
 yet. :)
 
 On Sep 20, 2012, at 12:10 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 Hi List,
  
 Just noticed that I don’t seem to have that issue any more where the phone 
 app opens after unlocking and if you end up touching the screen to quickly. 
 I tried it a few times and each time after unlocking immediately touched the 
 screen somewhere and all I got was Voiceover instantly telling me what app I 
 was touching. My 4S really does appear to be super responsive.
  
 I also noticed that my battery life has gone through the roof. It’s been 
 almost 9 hours since I unplugged it and I have done quite a bit with it, 
 listened for a while to Audible, updated some apps, moved a bunch of apps, 
 used SIRI as well as Maps app briefly and I am still at 70%, before this 
 update I’d be lucky to still have 30% after this time and what I did.
  
  
 Regards,
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Re: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.

2012-09-20 Thread David Chittenden
Fortunately, Focus is one of very few braille displays that doesn't have arrow 
key equivalent. Try your right thumb rocker bar. It has been a long time since 
I tested my iPhone with a Focus.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 20/09/2012, at 21:19, Cheryl Lenartiene dash...@loveable.com wrote:

 Hi David, 
 
 You bring up a valid concern that I started to have as I kept playing with 
 the whiz wheels last night. I found that if I moved them a hair's breadth, I 
 could mostly move down one line, but this would not work if I moved down one 
 full click. 
 
 Unfortunately, I use programs at work that work with braille but not at all 
 with speech, so even though I have a PMA, having my unit serviced is nod an 
 option. I was planning to wait until I went on vacation to have it cleaned to 
 at least minimize the work downtime a bit. So if it really is failing, 
 unfortunately, it will have to wait for now. 
 
 Still, none of this changes the fact that we no longer have dedicated 
 functions to move up and down by line. Having to go into the rotor to affect 
 a navigation key's function is a bad design, in my opinion. 
 
 Cheryl 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Sep 20, 2012, at 4:25 AM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I hope your thumb wheels are not going bad. What you describe is what my old 
 PACMate thumb wheels did as they were failing. 
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 20/09/2012, at 14:50, Darla Rogers djrogers0...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Very good points, Cheryl; I'll just leave things as they are then.
 
 Darla  Precious Roxy
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Cheryl Lenartiene
 Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 8:37 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.
 
 Hi Annie,
 
 I understand. Here is an example of why I say the new key assignments are
 unusable. I was in TweetList trying to read down my tweets. I pushed the
 right whiz wheel down once, not to scroll, but just to try to move one line.
 
 Sometimes, it would stay on the same line. Sometimes, it would jump up to
 the prior line or further. Sometimes, it would jump down a couple of lines. 
 And here's the clencher: Once, rolling the Whiz wheel down landed me smack
 in the status bar at the very top of the screen. Only once, out of my 10 to
 15 attempts to move downward, did I successfully move down a single line.
 
 I've had this happen more than once when trying to navigate through folders
 on my homescreen, including mysteriously landing in the status bar, as well.
 
 That's why I say, these key assignments are unuseable. It should not take 15
 attempts to move down one line. It's ridiculous.
 
 Cheryl
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Annie Skov Nielsen
 Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 6:27 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.
 
 Hi.
 
 I agree with you. To me it is unuseble too. I will really get problems to go
 to the next display line with my focus display. The only bottun that can go
 to the next line is the button in the wright end, and that will course
 problems with my hand, if I will have to use that button all the time.
 
 
 What really worked with the focus display, is for me totally broken.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 
 
 Den Sep 20, 2012 kl. 12:08 AM skrev Cheryl Lenartiene 
 dash...@loveable.com:
 
 Hi Jonathan,
 
 Thanksfor this. The key assignments were very helpful. I'm not saying 
 the new key assignments won't work for everyone. I'm just saying that 
 they don't work for me. I am literally unable to move up and down by 
 line and have to pan left and right by display width to navigate. When 
 I need to scroll through something quickly, this is not a practical 
 way to do it. So, for me, it really is unusable. I'm not flying off 
 the handle, I'm not being irrational; I'm not even afraid of something 
 new. It really, truly doesn't work for me because of the way VoiceOver 
 behaves.
 
 Cheryl
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jonathan Mosen
 Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 5:57 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.
 
 Apple has changed the key assignments for the Focus products in iOS6. 
 The best thing to do until an FSCast comes out on this, is to press 
 K-cord to invoke keyboard help, then press the keys to understand what
 they now do.
 
 People can of course offer feedback to Apple on the new assignments, 
 but to say it's unusable is I think a bit of a stretch. It's just 
 different. Some people will find it better, others not, but it is 
 still very much useable.
 
 Here's a summary that may assist.
 
 Router Row Double tap the selected item.
 Status Router Row Toggle expanded status description.
 Left Nav Rocker/Whiz-wheel Up Move to previous item using rotor setting.
 Left 

Re: Getting Knew Phone So have Some Questions

2012-09-20 Thread Fred Olver
If it comes with the phone, I would just get the earpods Apple just came out 
with. They certainly sound like they will sound great.

Fred Olver
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jessica Diaz 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 9:09 PM
  Subject: Getting Knew Phone So have Some Questions


  Hi All

  On Fri. I am venturing out in to insane land for a new iPhone 5 because am 
getting on my hubbys plan from ATT to VZ. I'm wanting to purchase some 
accessories. Can anyone suggest a good stereo headset that is Bluetooth? I have 
a jawbone ERA but really want something for both ears when playing music and 
movies that has awesome sound quality. I am also searching for a good Bluetooth 
keyboard that is compact and could fit in a purse and or handbag. I used a case 
keyboard thing for about 2 years and I just think it makes the phones to bulky. 
Also I really need something with all the keys including numbers. Thanks so 
much.

  Jessica


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Re: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.

2012-09-20 Thread David Chittenden
What I meant to say in my last message was, I agree, but it is a poor design of 
the braille display, not of iOS. All the screen-readers take advantage of the 
arrow keys / arrow pointer sticks / arrow buttons that almost every other 
braille display keyboard combo has, including FS's old PACMate. FS really has 
no excuse for such a poor design choice that requires special coding to work 
around, especially considering the Focus Blue is a relatively new braille 
display.


David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 20/09/2012, at 21:19, Cheryl Lenartiene dash...@loveable.com wrote:

 Hi David, 
 
 You bring up a valid concern that I started to have as I kept playing with 
 the whiz wheels last night. I found that if I moved them a hair's breadth, I 
 could mostly move down one line, but this would not work if I moved down one 
 full click. 
 
 Unfortunately, I use programs at work that work with braille but not at all 
 with speech, so even though I have a PMA, having my unit serviced is nod an 
 option. I was planning to wait until I went on vacation to have it cleaned to 
 at least minimize the work downtime a bit. So if it really is failing, 
 unfortunately, it will have to wait for now. 
 
 Still, none of this changes the fact that we no longer have dedicated 
 functions to move up and down by line. Having to go into the rotor to affect 
 a navigation key's function is a bad design, in my opinion. 
 
 Cheryl 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Sep 20, 2012, at 4:25 AM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I hope your thumb wheels are not going bad. What you describe is what my old 
 PACMate thumb wheels did as they were failing. 
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 20/09/2012, at 14:50, Darla Rogers djrogers0...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Very good points, Cheryl; I'll just leave things as they are then.
 
 Darla  Precious Roxy
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Cheryl Lenartiene
 Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 8:37 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.
 
 Hi Annie,
 
 I understand. Here is an example of why I say the new key assignments are
 unusable. I was in TweetList trying to read down my tweets. I pushed the
 right whiz wheel down once, not to scroll, but just to try to move one line.
 
 Sometimes, it would stay on the same line. Sometimes, it would jump up to
 the prior line or further. Sometimes, it would jump down a couple of lines. 
 And here's the clencher: Once, rolling the Whiz wheel down landed me smack
 in the status bar at the very top of the screen. Only once, out of my 10 to
 15 attempts to move downward, did I successfully move down a single line.
 
 I've had this happen more than once when trying to navigate through folders
 on my homescreen, including mysteriously landing in the status bar, as well.
 
 That's why I say, these key assignments are unuseable. It should not take 15
 attempts to move down one line. It's ridiculous.
 
 Cheryl
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Annie Skov Nielsen
 Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 6:27 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.
 
 Hi.
 
 I agree with you. To me it is unuseble too. I will really get problems to go
 to the next display line with my focus display. The only bottun that can go
 to the next line is the button in the wright end, and that will course
 problems with my hand, if I will have to use that button all the time.
 
 
 What really worked with the focus display, is for me totally broken.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 
 
 Den Sep 20, 2012 kl. 12:08 AM skrev Cheryl Lenartiene 
 dash...@loveable.com:
 
 Hi Jonathan,
 
 Thanksfor this. The key assignments were very helpful. I'm not saying 
 the new key assignments won't work for everyone. I'm just saying that 
 they don't work for me. I am literally unable to move up and down by 
 line and have to pan left and right by display width to navigate. When 
 I need to scroll through something quickly, this is not a practical 
 way to do it. So, for me, it really is unusable. I'm not flying off 
 the handle, I'm not being irrational; I'm not even afraid of something 
 new. It really, truly doesn't work for me because of the way VoiceOver 
 behaves.
 
 Cheryl
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jonathan Mosen
 Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 5:57 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.
 
 Apple has changed the key assignments for the Focus products in iOS6. 
 The best thing to do until an FSCast comes out on this, is to press 
 K-cord to invoke keyboard help, then press the keys to understand what
 they now do.
 
 People can of course offer feedback to Apple on the new assignments, 
 but to say it's unusable is I think a bit of a stretch. It's just 
 different. Some people 

Re: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.

2012-09-20 Thread David Chittenden
On my Alva BC640, right panning is done with the right thumb key and left 
panning is done with the left thumb key.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 20/09/2012, at 21:31, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi.
 
 Might a suggestion for apple be that braille panning, should be a possibility 
 in the router, when we wright handed readers could set the router on braille 
 paning, when we will have to read through text, it is not the best solution, 
 but it might maybe work.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 Den Sep 20, 2012 kl. 10:25 AM skrev David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com:
 
 I hope your thumb wheels are not going bad. What you describe is what my old 
 PACMate thumb wheels did as they were failing. 
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 20/09/2012, at 14:50, Darla Rogers djrogers0...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Very good points, Cheryl; I'll just leave things as they are then.
 
 Darla  Precious Roxy
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Cheryl Lenartiene
 Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 8:37 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.
 
 Hi Annie,
 
 I understand. Here is an example of why I say the new key assignments are
 unusable. I was in TweetList trying to read down my tweets. I pushed the
 right whiz wheel down once, not to scroll, but just to try to move one line.
 
 Sometimes, it would stay on the same line. Sometimes, it would jump up to
 the prior line or further. Sometimes, it would jump down a couple of lines. 
 And here's the clencher: Once, rolling the Whiz wheel down landed me smack
 in the status bar at the very top of the screen. Only once, out of my 10 to
 15 attempts to move downward, did I successfully move down a single line.
 
 I've had this happen more than once when trying to navigate through folders
 on my homescreen, including mysteriously landing in the status bar, as well.
 
 That's why I say, these key assignments are unuseable. It should not take 15
 attempts to move down one line. It's ridiculous.
 
 Cheryl
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Annie Skov Nielsen
 Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 6:27 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.
 
 Hi.
 
 I agree with you. To me it is unuseble too. I will really get problems to go
 to the next display line with my focus display. The only bottun that can go
 to the next line is the button in the wright end, and that will course
 problems with my hand, if I will have to use that button all the time.
 
 
 What really worked with the focus display, is for me totally broken.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 
 
 Den Sep 20, 2012 kl. 12:08 AM skrev Cheryl Lenartiene 
 dash...@loveable.com:
 
 Hi Jonathan,
 
 Thanksfor this. The key assignments were very helpful. I'm not saying 
 the new key assignments won't work for everyone. I'm just saying that 
 they don't work for me. I am literally unable to move up and down by 
 line and have to pan left and right by display width to navigate. When 
 I need to scroll through something quickly, this is not a practical 
 way to do it. So, for me, it really is unusable. I'm not flying off 
 the handle, I'm not being irrational; I'm not even afraid of something 
 new. It really, truly doesn't work for me because of the way VoiceOver 
 behaves.
 
 Cheryl
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jonathan Mosen
 Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 5:57 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.
 
 Apple has changed the key assignments for the Focus products in iOS6. 
 The best thing to do until an FSCast comes out on this, is to press 
 K-cord to invoke keyboard help, then press the keys to understand what
 they now do.
 
 People can of course offer feedback to Apple on the new assignments, 
 but to say it's unusable is I think a bit of a stretch. It's just 
 different. Some people will find it better, others not, but it is 
 still very much useable.
 
 Here's a summary that may assist.
 
 Router Row Double tap the selected item.
 Status Router Row Toggle expanded status description.
 Left Nav Rocker/Whiz-wheel Up Move to previous item using rotor setting.
 Left Nav Rocker/Whiz wheel Down Move to next item using rotor setting.
 Left Mode Button/press whiz wheel Select item under your finger.
 Right Nav Rocker/whiz wheel Up Move to previous item.
 Right Nav Rocker/whiz wheel Down Move to next item.
 Right Mode Button/press whiz wheel Select item under your finger.
 Left Panning Pan braille to the left.
 Right Panning Pan braille to the right.
 Left Selector Activates a Back button if present.
 Right Selector Start/Stop Toggle
 Left Rocker Up Scroll up one page.
 Left Rocker Down Scroll down one page.
 Right Rocker Up Scroll left one page.
 Right Rocker Down Scroll right one page.
 
 Jonathan
 
 
 

Re: Facebook and IOS 6

2012-09-20 Thread Tracy

Hi list
Now I have a question about this facebook integration. I've never fully 
understood the twitter integration in IOS 5.
I know twitter and facebook are now integrated into IOS, you can post from 
within the messages app, also you can post a photo to your facebook profile 
from within your camera roll, but how do you do that?
- Original Message - 
From: Sean Paul newsandtraf...@aol.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: Facebook and IOS 6



Heyya Kim:
I haven't fooled with facebook on IOS6, however, I'm sure it is much like 
the twitter app. You can post to facebook using it. But to use it, meaning 
read, interact with it. You'll have to get the official app on your device 
through the App Store to do so.
- Original Message - 
From: Kim k...@woodartdesign.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 01:02
Subject: Facebook and IOS 6



Hi,

OK, I admitt I'm not a rocket scientist when it comes to technology which 
is why I'm on this list...I see that with IOS 6 there is a setting for FB 
which I took care of.  Should there then be somw sort of app somewhere? 
I guess I don't understand what IOS 6 is giving me in regards to FB.


Thanks for filling in my blanks.

Kim

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Re: Fleksy

2012-09-20 Thread Robert Fenton
Hello: 
 
I an running the program on a 4 s. However, just to add another item to the 
equation, I changed my voice from united states English to British English and 
the responsiveness of Fleksy is much much better. I have no explanation for why 
this is the case. Thanks for your help. 

Bob Fenton

Sent from my iPhone

On 2012-09-20, at 2:19 AM, Kimberly kimbersinbox1...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm not seeing this at all. In fact fleksy seems particularly snappy with the 
 update. What device are you using?
 
 Sent from Kimber's iPhone
 
 On Sep 19, 2012, at 7:19 PM, Robert Fenton robert.fen...@samobile.net wrote:
 
 Fleksy is very sluggish after ios update. 
 
 Hello. I have noted long delays between tapping my phone and the keyboard 
 clicks. Delays can be up to half a second. When you type quickly, some 
 keystrokes are missed altogether. This problem really takes away from the 
 effectiveness of this app. The problems are happening on my four s. What 
 have others found? Thanks. 
 
 Bob Fenton
 
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Mail

2012-09-20 Thread Robert Fenton
Losing focus in email with replying to messages 

Hello everybody: 

I have noticed that VoiceOver loses the focus when I reply to a message. I have 
to flick through several fields before I can return to the main body of my 
message to type or paste text. Has anyone else had these difficulties? Thanks 
for your help. 

Bob Fenton

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Re: Phone app opening after unlocking seems to be fixed

2012-09-20 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hmm,

Interesting.  That bug has disappeared for me as well after updating to IOS6

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
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On Sep 20, 2012, at 5:28 AM, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ah! Well the phone bug is still there for me. :) I can live with this one to 
 be honest. :) I just learn to keep my fingers off the screen, but hey maybe 
 it depends on where you touch the screen. Glad you are not having the problem 
 yet. :)
 
 On Sep 20, 2012, at 12:10 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 Hi List,
  
 Just noticed that I don’t seem to have that issue any more where the phone 
 app opens after unlocking and if you end up touching the screen to quickly. 
 I tried it a few times and each time after unlocking immediately touched the 
 screen somewhere and all I got was Voiceover instantly telling me what app I 
 was touching. My 4S really does appear to be super responsive.
  
 I also noticed that my battery life has gone through the roof. It’s been 
 almost 9 hours since I unplugged it and I have done quite a bit with it, 
 listened for a while to Audible, updated some apps, moved a bunch of apps, 
 used SIRI as well as Maps app briefly and I am still at 70%, before this 
 update I’d be lucky to still have 30% after this time and what I did.
  
  
 Regards,
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Re: Getting Knew Phone So have Some Questions

2012-09-20 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,

I think great is a relative term. haha.  Its been my experience that, you truly 
do get what you pay for with headphones.  Since these are $30 headphones, say, 
$20 and an extra $10 for the Apple name, it will just be middle of the road.  I 
just think they will be way more comfortable.  The old headphones were terrible 
so, I can't wait to ditch them and use the ear pods.  At least until I get back 
my Shure 215s.  BTW, the ear pods are wired.  I believe the original posters 
were asking about Bluetooth stereo headsets.

hth

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Sep 20, 2012, at 6:14 AM, Fred Olver goodfo...@charter.net wrote:

 If it comes with the phone, I would just get the earpods Apple just came out 
 with. They certainly sound like they will sound great.
  
 Fred Olver
 - Original Message -
 From: Jessica Diaz
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 9:09 PM
 Subject: Getting Knew Phone So have Some Questions
 
 Hi All
 On Fri. I am venturing out in to insane land for a new iPhone 5 because am 
 getting on my hubbys plan from ATT to VZ. I’m wanting to purchase some 
 accessories. Can anyone suggest a good stereo headset that is Bluetooth? I 
 have a jawbone ERA but really want something for both ears when playing music 
 and movies that has awesome sound quality. I am also searching for a good 
 Bluetooth keyboard that is compact and could fit in a purse and or handbag. I 
 used a case keyboard thing for about 2 years and I just think it makes the 
 phones to bulky. Also I really need something with all the keys including 
 numbers. Thanks so much.
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High Quality Voice does the phone need to be connected

2012-09-20 Thread Jen Colley
Hi,  
I am still waiting for the high quality voice to come back.  
Do I need to leave my phone plugged into computer all day to hope that this 
happens?  
Jen  

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Facebook Intigration

2012-09-20 Thread Jen Colley
Hi,  
I am wondering how you post to facebook via the notification centre.  
I’ve always just used the facebook app but now understand you can do posting of 
photos and updates differently now.  
Jen  

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RE: Article: IOS 6 Maps comes without Transit Directions

2012-09-20 Thread Brian Miller
I also heard a piece on PRI's (public radio international) Marketplace
about this issue.  In the rush to unseat Googlemaps, Apple has offered us a
maps app that doesn't have bus, subway, or other public transit information,
a major component of Googlemaps.  

I wonder if it has pedestrian mode?

Brian Miller


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 [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kathy Blackburn
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 -directions-apple_n_1896684.html?utm_campaign=091912utm_mediu
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the release of IOS 6

2012-09-20 Thread Morgan Scott
Hello all, does anyone know what time IOS 6 is coming out? I went to settings, 
general, sofftwhere updates, and it said i was up to date. Morgan.

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Re: One finger flick for deleting messages

2012-09-20 Thread MamaPeach

I think you have to go into your rotor settings to set this.

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From: Robert Fenton

Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 3:27 PM
To: Viphone
Subject: One finger flick for deleting messages

Hello:

I have read that the above feature exists?  Where do you enable it?  I 
checked within the mail settings and didn't see the appropriate entry 
anywhere.  THank you.


Bob Fenton

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IOS 6 Question

2012-09-20 Thread MamaPeach
My question is “Is it safe to install IOS 6 on an ATT factory unlocked phone? 
I was told when I bought my 3GS 32GB phone from a seller on Ebay that having a 
factory unlocked phone would allow me to update it, but I want to make sure 
before doing something that will mess up the factory unlock. Anyone know?

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Re: Where can I find iOS6

2012-09-20 Thread paula barton
hi there
go to settings on your phone  then to general and in there you will find 
software update go in there and follow the steps from there
paula barton 


From: Rahul Bajaj 
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Where can I find iOS6


Hi all, 

I wish to download iOS 6, but I can't seem to find it anywhere in the app 
store.. 
So, where can I locate it? 

Cheers, 
Rahul 

Typed with Fleksy




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Re: iphone 3gs lagging.

2012-09-20 Thread Morgan Scott
then, in that case, would an update to 6 help me any?
On Sep 19, 2012, at 6:11 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose b...@benmr.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Assuming you've tried rebooting your device, perhaps a clean install
 of 5.1.1 might be the next thing to try. An app won't be what's
 causing the heat problem so at this point I'd be hoping that a restore
 would fix it. A 3gs will be super cheap now given the release of the
 5; if a restore doesn't fix it and you can afford to, I'd probably try
 and buy another 3GS or perhaps even something newer.
 
 Cheers,
 Ben.
 
 On 9/19/12, Morgan Scott tinymor...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi, does anyone know how i can fix the lag on my 3gs? when ever i have 3 or
 so apps open, my phone lags really bad, and my phone gets wikkid hot. not
 only that, but even if i don't have anything open, the screen jumps me, like
 i'l just be sitting there, and voice over will start like reading everything
 on the screen with out me even doing anything. thanks in advance, Morgan.
 
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Re: horrible fuzzy noise, iOS 6

2012-09-20 Thread Morgan Scott
Hi, and yuck that's gross, a hissing in voice over englishvoices? i'm disgusted 
! sorry but wow. other then that, iOS 6 is ok. Morgan. 
On Sep 19, 2012, at 10:56 AM, Cristobal crismuno...@gmail.com wrote:

 Are you using the compact or high quality voice? Did you by any chance get
 switched back to the high quality voice if you were in fact using the
 compact option previously? 
 
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 Subject: horrible fuzzy noise, iOS 6
 
 Hi All,
 
 Just updated my iPHone 4S to iOS 6, UK synth voice, there is now a horrid
 hissing noise whenever the synth finishes talking, it even changes hissing
 level as speech finishes.
 
 anyone else got this?
 
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RE: Delightful Results with iOS 6 Map Navigation, So Far

2012-09-20 Thread rex wisdom
I have just upgraded to 6.  I went to settings and maps to operate turn by
turn directions but could not get it to work.  Would you please tell me how
you got turn by turn to work?

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Of M. Taylor
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Subject: Delightful Results with iOS 6 Map Navigation, So Far

Hello Everyone,

It has been a long day.  I have installed iOS 6 on 8 devices and each has
been extremely painful.  

Be that as it may, I just returned from testing the new Maps App with voice
guided navigation.  

I only went a couple of blocks, walking, but it worked like a charm.  

One feature that I truly love is the ability to show a route in list mode.  

A T  T Navigator offers a similar list but it is not VoiceOver accessible.


I have not yet tested the Maps in a car yet but will do so tomorrow.  

Now I'm not saying that I would choose this app over my Humanware Trekker
solution, but I may, if my current results hold, decide to unsubscribe from
A T  T Navigator, a service costing $9.95 a month.  

One thing that Navigator does offer, however, is an amazing points of
interest list that I doubt the Maps app can offer.

The great thing about iOS is that there is something for everyone.  

So, at your earliest convenience, jump in and give the new turn-by-turn
directions a spin.  

Oh, keep in mind that this feature is for iPHone 4 S and iPhone 5, only.

Mark

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Re: first IPhone IPhone4S vs IPhone5 with VO

2012-09-20 Thread Donald Raikes
What is the difference between the 5 and the 5s?

Sorry for the dumb questions I am totally new to the world of IPhone.

On 9/19/12, VaShaun Jones vashaun.jo...@gmail.com wrote:
 You should either get an unlocked iPhone from someone on the list that is
 selling one or get the 5. If I was you. The unlocked would get you a very
 nice, fast phone that will work well with the new OS without a contract and
 then you can get the 5S next year or you can get the 5 now and skip the next
 years phone. Either way you are getting some good hardware.
 On Sep 19, 2012, at 12:28 PM, Donald Raikes don.rai...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello all,

 I am just about to buy my first IPhone. I have been doing a lot of
 reading about it.  I have been using an android for the last 2 years,
 but have discovered some real limitations with it.

 So, knowing that IOS6 has just been released for download today, is it
 worth my dollars to get IPhone5 or should I stick with an IPhone4S?

 I will be using VO exclusively, so any
 tips/suggestions/reccommendations would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: Question about VoiceOver

2012-09-20 Thread Morgan Scott
actually, thanks hoteling me that. i am going to go to compact cuz the higher 
qualities are taking up a lot of memory. and when i upgraded to 6 i thought it 
would help the lag?but, huh no. it certainly did not. actually, it skips more. 
if this keeps up, i'm probably going to downgrade if possible, i am thinking of 
going to get this phone looked at, or a new one. Morgan.
On Sep 19, 2012, at 3:13 PM, Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com wrote:

 Do you mean that the voice isn't as good quality?
 
 As of iOS 5 (last year's update), VoiceOver comes with a set of very
 decent, but still lower quality, voices by default. These are called
 'compact' voices.
 
 A higher quality voice will eventually download for your primary
 language. To get it to download, hook up your phone to power, make
 sure it's connected to WI-FI, and then lock the screen. The voice
 should download within a few minutes, after which it'll be activated
 right away. Thereafter you can enable or disable the 'compact' voice
 by heading into Settings/General/Accessibility/VoiceOver.
 
 Is this what you're talking about?
 
 Grant
 
 On 9/19/12, Juliette jmswi...@samobile.net wrote:
 I am playing around with the new operating system on my iPhone.
 Does VoiceOver seem more compressed when it speaks?
 
 Juliette
 
 
 
 Juliette
 
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Re: Suggestion for Updates to IOS

2012-09-20 Thread Wayne Merritt
With the old Nokia phones, I recall feeling a short vibration when the
phone restarted. It would be handy to have this happen with the
iPhone, in addition to the audible tones. I've heard that this is
available to jailbreakers, but I can see benefits for those that don't
jailbreak too.

Wayne

On 9/19/12, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com wrote:
   I don't know if this was seen.  I'd like to see Apple implement a 
 procedure
 similar to what Windows Screen Reader manufacturers do.  Namely, when one
 re-starts one's device, audible tones or clicks are heard so that we VO
 users know that something is occurring.  I just wrote Apple's Accessibility
 Team on this, and would encourage others to do the same.

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Re: Error message when updating Itunes?

2012-09-20 Thread Morgan Scott
hi, huh sorry for the blank message of tabs, that was my bad, i am learning the 
mac, lol but any how, yes NVDA is ok, but another one is SA or system access. 
Morgan
On Sep 19, 2012, at 8:08 AM, Jon Pierson joncpier...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Fred,
 That's bizarre and while I don't necessarily trust MS-Windows errors, you
 could try NVDA as a shark can sometimes be a pig!
 
 Jon
 
 
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 Subject: Error message when updating Itunes?
 
 Attempted to update I-Tunes to 10.7, got an out of memory error, shut down
 other applications. I have 1GB of memory and the only other program which
 was running was Jaws. Any ideas?
 
 Fred Olver
 
 
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RE: Syncing Notes

2012-09-20 Thread Kerry Painter
Chris.  Thanks for this suggestion.  I did try it and also had a look around
on the net.  The problem with using gmail to store my notes is that I can
only create them from my IPhone.  I'd like to be able to create notes on
either pC and then have it sync automatically with my IPhone.  I also looked
at the ICloud website and while the buttons are readable, they don't seem
to do an awful lot when you press enter on them because I thought this might
be a good solution to my problem.  Is ICloud workable and if not, what about
hotmail?

 

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Re: Facebook Intigration

2012-09-20 Thread Sean Paul
Heyya Jen:
If you do a 3 finger flick down from the notification center. Depending on what 
order you have your notification in, the post to facebook  post to twitter 
should be right under weather. Just hit the one you want  there will come up 
an edit field, once finished, there is a send button at the top right corner.
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  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 07:13
  Subject: Facebook Intigration


  Hi,  
  I am wondering how you post to facebook via the notification centre.  
  I’ve always just used the facebook app but now understand you can do posting 
of photos and updates differently now.  
  Jen  

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Re: the release of IOS 6

2012-09-20 Thread Marianne Denning
It came out yesterday and I received a message that I could update last night.

On 9/19/12, Morgan Scott tinymor...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello all, does anyone know what time IOS 6 is coming out? I went to
 settings, general, sofftwhere updates, and it said i was up to date.
 Morgan.

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Re: first IPhone IPhone4S vs IPhone5 with VO

2012-09-20 Thread Marianne Denning
It seems like Apple releases two phones that are built alike and then
changes the physical phone.  There was the 3 then the 3g. Then came
the 4 followed by the 4s.  Now we have the 5 so we assume the next one
(probably late 2013) will be called the 5s.

On 9/19/12, Donald Raikes don.rai...@gmail.com wrote:
 What is the difference between the 5 and the 5s?

 Sorry for the dumb questions I am totally new to the world of IPhone.

 On 9/19/12, VaShaun Jones vashaun.jo...@gmail.com wrote:
 You should either get an unlocked iPhone from someone on the list that is
 selling one or get the 5. If I was you. The unlocked would get you a very
 nice, fast phone that will work well with the new OS without a contract
 and
 then you can get the 5S next year or you can get the 5 now and skip the
 next
 years phone. Either way you are getting some good hardware.
 On Sep 19, 2012, at 12:28 PM, Donald Raikes don.rai...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello all,

 I am just about to buy my first IPhone. I have been doing a lot of
 reading about it.  I have been using an android for the last 2 years,
 but have discovered some real limitations with it.

 So, knowing that IOS6 has just been released for download today, is it
 worth my dollars to get IPhone5 or should I stick with an IPhone4S?

 I will be using VO exclusively, so any
 tips/suggestions/reccommendations would be greatly appreciated.

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RE: new keyboard behaviour

2012-09-20 Thread Jon Pierson
Hi Shawn,
The new keyboard behavior is nothing like Flexy, You can't have had any
success with it at all so far but it's definitely (next to Siri) the biggest
thing since slice bread or even apples.
It deserves many more tries and seems to give on average about a 3-fold
increase in speed for most of us.

Jon
 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Shawn Krasniuk
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 1:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new keyboard behaviour

Hi. I also like this new keyboard behavior. I'm glad that it pretty much
does the same thing as Fleksy where you just tap on a letter and it types
it. So with that being said, I don't see the point of having the app if the
keyboard does what we've been wanting it to do all this time.
My update was pretty successful, got an error message about it failing to
install the update for some reason though. At least it worked the second
time. I'm just having trouble with the App store now. How do you change
pages if swiping left or right doesn't work?

Shawn
Sent from my white Mac Book

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RE: Delightful Results with iOS 6 Map Navigation, So Far

2012-09-20 Thread Thom
I tried to use the turn by turn directions yersterday. It would announce how
far away from my house I was, until I got close to my destination. Then it
told me that my destination was 250 feet on the right. I didn't see anything
useful in between. I only went 4 tenths of a mile, but I think I need to
play with it a bit more.

Thom

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Of M. Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 10:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Delightful Results with iOS 6 Map Navigation, So Far


Hello Everyone,

It has been a long day.  I have installed iOS 6 on 8 devices and each has
been extremely painful.  

Be that as it may, I just returned from testing the new Maps App with voice
guided navigation.  

I only went a couple of blocks, walking, but it worked like a charm.  

One feature that I truly love is the ability to show a route in list mode.  

A T  T Navigator offers a similar list but it is not VoiceOver accessible.


I have not yet tested the Maps in a car yet but will do so tomorrow.  

Now I'm not saying that I would choose this app over my Humanware Trekker
solution, but I may, if my current results hold, decide to unsubscribe from
A T  T Navigator, a service costing $9.95 a month.  

One thing that Navigator does offer, however, is an amazing points of
interest list that I doubt the Maps app can offer.

The great thing about iOS is that there is something for everyone.  

So, at your earliest convenience, jump in and give the new turn-by-turn
directions a spin.  

Oh, keep in mind that this feature is for iPHone 4 S and iPhone 5, only.

Mark

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RE: new keyboard behaviour

2012-09-20 Thread Jon Pierson
Hi Shawn,
Remember that the keyboard used in Flexy is much taller. Next, the most
common mistake is waiting for the letter to be spoken. Holding your finger
on any letter that long can totally muck up their neat predictive algorithm.

Jon
 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sean Paul
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 2:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new keyboard behaviour

Heyya:
I've tried it several times  am not able to get that to work for me. Yes,
doubletapp inserts period is  has been turned on in settings. I'll keep
fooling around with it. Thanks much for your help.
- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 23:58
Subject: RE: new keyboard behaviour


 Hi Sean,

 You mean a double tap of the space bar, right? I just tried this and 
 tapping the space bar twice quickly still inserts a period as always 
 and starts a new sentence with the first letter capitalized. Make sure 
 you have this feature turned on in Settings and Keyboard.


 Regards,
 Sieghard


 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Sean Paul
 Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 1:53 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: new keyboard behaviour

 I would also agree. I can type a bit faster as well. The triple tap to 
 enter the period will be a slow down for me though.
 - Original Message -
 From: Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 15:27
 Subject: Re: new keyboard behaviour


 Ironically, I feel differently: I've found that my typing speed is now
 significantly faster because it used to be very slow to enter
 punctuation, numbers, and to hastily delete a mistyped character. I
 therefore am a fan of the changes.

 I will say, though, that there are a couple of inconsistencies: I
 would have expected the behaviour to have also changed for the enter
 key, which it hasn't, and the delete key in the phone app still
 retains the classic behaviour. You can't touch and hold it to activate
 it.

 Grant

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Re: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.

2012-09-20 Thread Cheryl Lenartiene
Hello David,

I definitely appreciate your comments and suggestions. I think FS has done a 
great job designing the Focus. It's just the new key mapping that has been the 
game changer for me.

You suggested using the right rocker bar to pan up and down by line. This is 
how both rocker bars used to work in iOS. However, with this new update, the 
left rocker bar does a three finger flick up or down, and the right rocker bar 
does a three finger swipe left and right.

There are also two panning buttons, but they pan by display length and not by 
line. Depending on what you're trying to do, this is a very tedious alternative.

So as of now, with my whiz wheels flying all over the place, and with the whiz 
wheels tied to the rotor on top of that, iOS navigation with the Focus has 
become clunky.

On another note to Annie, I don't personally use reverse panning, but would 
love to see it implemented for those who do. Maybe it could be a setting under 
the Braille support section of the VO control panel. We all have different 
reading styles, and I think they should be supported, whenever possible.


Cheryl


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 20, 2012, at 6:16 AM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:

 What I meant to say in my last message was, I agree, but it is a poor design 
 of the braille display, not of iOS. All the screen-readers take advantage of 
 the arrow keys / arrow pointer sticks / arrow buttons that almost every other 
 braille display keyboard combo has, including FS's old PACMate. FS really has 
 no excuse for such a poor design choice that requires special coding to work 
 around, especially considering the Focus Blue is a relatively new braille 
 display.
 
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 20/09/2012, at 21:19, Cheryl Lenartiene dash...@loveable.com wrote:
 
 Hi David, 
 
 You bring up a valid concern that I started to have as I kept playing with 
 the whiz wheels last night. I found that if I moved them a hair's breadth, I 
 could mostly move down one line, but this would not work if I moved down one 
 full click. 
 
 Unfortunately, I use programs at work that work with braille but not at all 
 with speech, so even though I have a PMA, having my unit serviced is nod an 
 option. I was planning to wait until I went on vacation to have it cleaned 
 to at least minimize the work downtime a bit. So if it really is failing, 
 unfortunately, it will have to wait for now. 
 
 Still, none of this changes the fact that we no longer have dedicated 
 functions to move up and down by line. Having to go into the rotor to affect 
 a navigation key's function is a bad design, in my opinion. 
 
 Cheryl 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Sep 20, 2012, at 4:25 AM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I hope your thumb wheels are not going bad. What you describe is what my 
 old PACMate thumb wheels did as they were failing. 
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 20/09/2012, at 14:50, Darla Rogers djrogers0...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Very good points, Cheryl; I'll just leave things as they are then.
 
 Darla  Precious Roxy
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Cheryl Lenartiene
 Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 8:37 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.
 
 Hi Annie,
 
 I understand. Here is an example of why I say the new key assignments are
 unusable. I was in TweetList trying to read down my tweets. I pushed the
 right whiz wheel down once, not to scroll, but just to try to move one 
 line.
 
 Sometimes, it would stay on the same line. Sometimes, it would jump up to
 the prior line or further. Sometimes, it would jump down a couple of 
 lines. 
 And here's the clencher: Once, rolling the Whiz wheel down landed me smack
 in the status bar at the very top of the screen. Only once, out of my 10 to
 15 attempts to move downward, did I successfully move down a single line.
 
 I've had this happen more than once when trying to navigate through folders
 on my homescreen, including mysteriously landing in the status bar, as 
 well.
 
 That's why I say, these key assignments are unuseable. It should not take 
 15
 attempts to move down one line. It's ridiculous.
 
 Cheryl
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Annie Skov Nielsen
 Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 6:27 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.
 
 Hi.
 
 I agree with you. To me it is unuseble too. I will really get problems to 
 go
 to the next display line with my focus display. The only bottun that can go
 to the next line is the button in the wright end, and that will course
 problems with my hand, if I will have to use that button all the time.
 
 
 What really worked with the focus display, is for me totally broken.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 
 
 Den 

Re: new keyboard behaviour

2012-09-20 Thread Sean Paul
We're not talking about fleksy here. We're talking about the regular 
keyboard when using IOS.
- Original Message - 
From: Jon Pierson joncpier...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 07:52
Subject: RE: new keyboard behaviour



Hi Shawn,
Remember that the keyboard used in Flexy is much taller. Next, the most
common mistake is waiting for the letter to be spoken. Holding your finger
on any letter that long can totally muck up their neat predictive 
algorithm.


Jon


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sean Paul
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 2:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new keyboard behaviour

Heyya:
I've tried it several times  am not able to get that to work for me. Yes,
doubletapp inserts period is  has been turned on in settings. I'll keep
fooling around with it. Thanks much for your help.
- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 23:58
Subject: RE: new keyboard behaviour



Hi Sean,

You mean a double tap of the space bar, right? I just tried this and
tapping the space bar twice quickly still inserts a period as always
and starts a new sentence with the first letter capitalized. Make sure
you have this feature turned on in Settings and Keyboard.


Regards,
Sieghard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Sean Paul
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 1:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new keyboard behaviour

I would also agree. I can type a bit faster as well. The triple tap to
enter the period will be a slow down for me though.
- Original Message -
From: Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 15:27
Subject: Re: new keyboard behaviour



Ironically, I feel differently: I've found that my typing speed is now
significantly faster because it used to be very slow to enter
punctuation, numbers, and to hastily delete a mistyped character. I
therefore am a fan of the changes.

I will say, though, that there are a couple of inconsistencies: I
would have expected the behaviour to have also changed for the enter
key, which it hasn't, and the delete key in the phone app still
retains the classic behaviour. You can't touch and hold it to activate
it.

Grant

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RE: SIRI tutorials

2012-09-20 Thread Jon Pierson
Hi Brian,
Try searching on Youtube, most of them are done by sighted folks but the
trick here is that both the uploader  Siri are talking by necessity. We
Win!

Jon
 

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Subject: SIRI tutorials

Good morning,

Is there a good tutorial folks can recommend for those of us new to SIRI?  I
am skipping from the iPhone 4 straight to the iPhone 5, so I've not used
SIRI much except on the phone of riends.

Thanks,

Brian Miller

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Re: new keyboard behaviour

2012-09-20 Thread Sean Paul
Yes, I'd agree that my typing is much better with it. I so noted this 
yesterday afternoon somewhere back up earlier in this thread, I couldn't be 
happier with that aspect of it.
- Original Message - 
From: Jon Pierson joncpier...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 07:49
Subject: RE: new keyboard behaviour



Hi Shawn,
The new keyboard behavior is nothing like Flexy, You can't have had any
success with it at all so far but it's definitely (next to Siri) the 
biggest

thing since slice bread or even apples.
It deserves many more tries and seems to give on average about a 3-fold
increase in speed for most of us.

Jon


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Shawn Krasniuk
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 1:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new keyboard behaviour

Hi. I also like this new keyboard behavior. I'm glad that it pretty much
does the same thing as Fleksy where you just tap on a letter and it types
it. So with that being said, I don't see the point of having the app if 
the

keyboard does what we've been wanting it to do all this time.
My update was pretty successful, got an error message about it failing to
install the update for some reason though. At least it worked the second
time. I'm just having trouble with the App store now. How do you change
pages if swiping left or right doesn't work?

Shawn
Sent from my white Mac Book

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Re: Mail

2012-09-20 Thread David Chittenden
VO focuses on the cancel button. If you start typing, the characters will go in 
the naturally highlighted field and focus will move there automatically. 

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 20/09/2012, at 22:51, Robert Fenton robert.fen...@samobile.net wrote:

 Losing focus in email with replying to messages 
 
 Hello everybody: 
 
 I have noticed that VoiceOver loses the focus when I reply to a message. I 
 have to flick through several fields before I can return to the main body of 
 my message to type or paste text. Has anyone else had these difficulties? 
 Thanks for your help. 
 
 Bob Fenton
 
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RE: new keyboard behaviour

2012-09-20 Thread Jon Pierson
Ok, sorry.
Another Flexy convert in the house!

Jon
 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sean Paul
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 4:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new keyboard behaviour

We're not talking about fleksy here. We're talking about the regular
keyboard when using IOS.
- Original Message -
From: Jon Pierson joncpier...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 07:52
Subject: RE: new keyboard behaviour


 Hi Shawn,
 Remember that the keyboard used in Flexy is much taller. Next, the 
 most common mistake is waiting for the letter to be spoken. Holding 
 your finger on any letter that long can totally muck up their neat 
 predictive algorithm.

 Jon


 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Sean Paul
 Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 2:21 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: new keyboard behaviour

 Heyya:
 I've tried it several times  am not able to get that to work for me. 
 Yes, doubletapp inserts period is  has been turned on in settings. 
 I'll keep fooling around with it. Thanks much for your help.
 - Original Message -
 From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 23:58
 Subject: RE: new keyboard behaviour


 Hi Sean,

 You mean a double tap of the space bar, right? I just tried this and 
 tapping the space bar twice quickly still inserts a period as always 
 and starts a new sentence with the first letter capitalized. Make 
 sure you have this feature turned on in Settings and Keyboard.


 Regards,
 Sieghard


 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Sean Paul
 Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 1:53 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: new keyboard behaviour

 I would also agree. I can type a bit faster as well. The triple tap 
 to enter the period will be a slow down for me though.
 - Original Message -
 From: Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 15:27
 Subject: Re: new keyboard behaviour


 Ironically, I feel differently: I've found that my typing speed is 
 now significantly faster because it used to be very slow to enter 
 punctuation, numbers, and to hastily delete a mistyped character. I 
 therefore am a fan of the changes.

 I will say, though, that there are a couple of inconsistencies: I 
 would have expected the behaviour to have also changed for the enter 
 key, which it hasn't, and the delete key in the phone app still 
 retains the classic behaviour. You can't touch and hold it to 
 activate it.

 Grant

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Re: Facebook Intigration

2012-09-20 Thread Jen Colley
Do I have to have something enabled in settings?  
Jen  

From: Sean Paul 
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 7:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Facebook Intigration

Heyya Jen:
If you do a 3 finger flick down from the notification center. Depending on what 
order you have your notification in, the post to facebook  post to twitter 
should be right under weather. Just hit the one you want  there will come up 
an edit field, once finished, there is a send button at the top right corner.
  - Original Message - 
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  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 07:13
  Subject: Facebook Intigration


  Hi,  
  I am wondering how you post to facebook via the notification centre.  
  I’ve always just used the facebook app but now understand you can do posting 
of photos and updates differently now.  
  Jen  
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Re: new keyboard behaviour

2012-09-20 Thread Sean Paul
Yeah, apologies if that came off as if I were being a smart ... that 
certainly wasn't my intent. Yeah, I only used fleksy every now  again when 
I needed to type very long messages.
- Original Message - 
From: Jon Pierson joncpier...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 07:57
Subject: RE: new keyboard behaviour



Ok, sorry.
Another Flexy convert in the house!

Jon


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sean Paul
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 4:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new keyboard behaviour

We're not talking about fleksy here. We're talking about the regular
keyboard when using IOS.
- Original Message -
From: Jon Pierson joncpier...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 07:52
Subject: RE: new keyboard behaviour



Hi Shawn,
Remember that the keyboard used in Flexy is much taller. Next, the
most common mistake is waiting for the letter to be spoken. Holding
your finger on any letter that long can totally muck up their neat
predictive algorithm.

Jon


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Sean Paul
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 2:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new keyboard behaviour

Heyya:
I've tried it several times  am not able to get that to work for me.
Yes, doubletapp inserts period is  has been turned on in settings.
I'll keep fooling around with it. Thanks much for your help.
- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 23:58
Subject: RE: new keyboard behaviour



Hi Sean,

You mean a double tap of the space bar, right? I just tried this and
tapping the space bar twice quickly still inserts a period as always
and starts a new sentence with the first letter capitalized. Make
sure you have this feature turned on in Settings and Keyboard.


Regards,
Sieghard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Sean Paul
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 1:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new keyboard behaviour

I would also agree. I can type a bit faster as well. The triple tap
to enter the period will be a slow down for me though.
- Original Message -
From: Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 15:27
Subject: Re: new keyboard behaviour



Ironically, I feel differently: I've found that my typing speed is
now significantly faster because it used to be very slow to enter
punctuation, numbers, and to hastily delete a mistyped character. I
therefore am a fan of the changes.

I will say, though, that there are a couple of inconsistencies: I
would have expected the behaviour to have also changed for the enter
key, which it hasn't, and the delete key in the phone app still
retains the classic behaviour. You can't touch and hold it to
activate it.

Grant

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RE: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.

2012-09-20 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Annie,

I don't want to get off topic but I want to be clear on something as I was
toying with the idea of purchasing another Focus, the new model.

Are you saying that the new, smaller, model of the Focus 40 Blue no longer
has Wiz Wheels as they existed on the previous model?

Mark


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Annie Skov Nielsen
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 2:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.

Hi Mark.

You are reading braille exactly as i am reading. I have asked apple for the
possibility to reverse paning buttons since IOS 4, but nothing hapens.

I am really disappointed with apple in this case. The only thing I really
like about focus 40 blue is these whiz wheels or a sort of rocker buttons
that they have been changed to in the new focus.

Best regards Annie.
Den Sep 20, 2012 kl. 2:36 AM skrev M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu:

 Hello Annie,
 
 As a Focus user, I concur with you.
 
 The best thing about the Focus is the Wiz Wheels and being able to use 
 them with either hand.
 
 I read Braille with my Right hand and truly enjoyed using my left Wiz 
 Wheel to scroll through documents.
 
 Even allowing us to reverse the panning buttons would be an 
 improvement over the current situation.
 
 Unfortunately, I updated both my 4 and my 4 S to iOS 6.  Would that I 
 had known such a key assignment change was in store, I would not have 
 updated my 4.
 
 Oh well.
 
 I encourage all of you to send this issue to accessibil...@apple.com
 
 Mark
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Annie Skov Nielsen
 Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 3:28 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.
 
 Hi.
 
 I agree with you. To me it is unuseble too. I will really get problems 
 to go to the next display line with my focus display. The only bottun 
 that can go to the next line is the button in the wright end, and that 
 will course problems with my hand, if I will have to use that button all
the time.
 
 
 What really worked with the focus display, is for me totally broken.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 
 
 Den Sep 20, 2012 kl. 12:08 AM skrev Cheryl Lenartiene
 dash...@loveable.com:
 
 Hi Jonathan,
 
 Thanksfor this. The key assignments were very helpful. I'm not saying 
 the new key assignments won't work for everyone. I'm just saying that 
 they don't work for me. I am literally unable to move up and down by 
 line and have to pan left and right by display width to navigate. 
 When I need to scroll through something quickly, this is not a 
 practical way to do it. So, for me, it really is unusable. I'm not 
 flying off the handle, I'm not being irrational; I'm not even afraid 
 of something new. It really, truly doesn't work for me because of the 
 way VoiceOver
 behaves.
 
 Cheryl
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jonathan Mosen
 Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 5:57 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.
 
 Apple has changed the key assignments for the Focus products in iOS6. 
 The best thing to do until an FSCast comes out on this, is to press 
 K-cord to invoke keyboard help, then press the keys to understand 
 what
 they now do.
 
 People can of course offer feedback to Apple on the new assignments, 
 but to say it's unusable is I think a bit of a stretch. It's just 
 different. Some people will find it better, others not, but it is 
 still
 very much useable.
 
 Here's a summary that may assist.
 
 Router Row Double tap the selected item.
 Status Router Row Toggle expanded status description.
 Left Nav Rocker/Whiz-wheel Up Move to previous item using rotor setting.
 Left Nav Rocker/Whiz wheel Down Move to next item using rotor setting.
 Left Mode Button/press whiz wheel Select item under your finger.
 Right Nav Rocker/whiz wheel Up Move to previous item.
 Right Nav Rocker/whiz wheel Down Move to next item.
 Right Mode Button/press whiz wheel Select item under your finger.
 Left Panning Pan braille to the left.
 Right Panning Pan braille to the right.
 Left Selector Activates a Back button if present.
 Right Selector Start/Stop Toggle
 Left Rocker Up Scroll up one page.
 Left Rocker Down Scroll down one page.
 Right Rocker Up Scroll left one page.
 Right Rocker Down Scroll right one page.
 
 Jonathan
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Cheryl Lenartiene
 Sent: Thursday, 20 September 2012 9:44 a.m.
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Focus 40 blue in ios 6.
 
 Hi,
 
 I don't like the new key assignments for the Focus 40 Blue in iOS6 
 either. I have the Classic, and I don't like having to use the Whiz 
 Wheels to pan by line, because the rocker bars now swipe instead.
 VoiceOver jumps all over the place when I try to navigate using Whiz 
 Wheels on my iPhone 4. If I move up or down one 

Re: High Quality Voice does the phone need to be connected

2012-09-20 Thread David Chittenden
Yes, the iOS device must be plugged in, connected to the net, and screen 
locked. 

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 20/09/2012, at 23:12, Jen Colley jen.col...@shaw.ca wrote:

 Hi, 
 I am still waiting for the high quality voice to come back. 
 Do I need to leave my phone plugged into computer all day to hope that this 
 happens? 
 Jen 
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Audio questions

2012-09-20 Thread Nicki Keck

Hi all,

first, is there a way to have my IPhone's audio come through my 
computer's speakers?  also, someone mentioned a program for having 
computer audio to the IPhone called airfoil?  is this an app or what is 
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Re: One finger flick for deleting messages

2012-09-20 Thread David Chittenden
It automatically comes onto the rotor when in the list. 

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 20/09/2012, at 7:42, MamaPeach mamape...@charter.net wrote:

 I think you have to go into your rotor settings to set this.
 
 -Original Message- From: Robert Fenton
 Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 3:27 PM
 To: Viphone
 Subject: One finger flick for deleting messages
 
 Hello:
 
 I have read that the above feature exists?  Where do you enable it?  I 
 checked within the mail settings and didn't see the appropriate entry 
 anywhere.  THank you.
 
 Bob Fenton
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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RE: Delightful Results with iOS 6 Map Navigation, So Far

2012-09-20 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Scott,

To answer your first question, the Trekker, as does Mobile Speak,
automatically announces cross streets either with or without a route being
set.  This is a feature upon which I insist when traveling alone, in
unfamiliar areas.  

As to your second question, in my opinion, Apple is not in the business of
Map making and, while they may offer very good solutions, I suspect that A T
 T Wireless, with its vast nationwide telephone infrastructure has more
resources dedicated to maintaining POI updated listings.  This is just a
supposition; perhaps Apple will prove me wrong as they have on several
occasions.  (Smile).

Mark


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Of Scott Howell
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 2:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Delightful Results with iOS 6 Map Navigation, So Far

Mark,

First, why would you not use Maps over the Treker? What are the most
significant difference or feature prevents you from using Maps over that
device? Second, why do you say that the Maps app could not have the level of
POIs that the ATT Navigator app has? The one thing that everyone has to
remember is as time progresses, APple will no doubt improve and enhance the
Maps application. I am sure transit information for example will be
forthcoming since that is a pretty significant piece that I am sure folks
would use.

On Sep 19, 2012, at 10:21 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:

 Hello Everyone,
 
 It has been a long day.  I have installed iOS 6 on 8 devices and each 
 has been extremely painful.
 
 Be that as it may, I just returned from testing the new Maps App with 
 voice guided navigation.
 
 I only went a couple of blocks, walking, but it worked like a charm.  
 
 One feature that I truly love is the ability to show a route in list mode.

 
 A T  T Navigator offers a similar list but it is not VoiceOver
accessible.
 
 
 I have not yet tested the Maps in a car yet but will do so tomorrow.  
 
 Now I'm not saying that I would choose this app over my Humanware 
 Trekker solution, but I may, if my current results hold, decide to 
 unsubscribe from A T  T Navigator, a service costing $9.95 a month.
 
 One thing that Navigator does offer, however, is an amazing points of 
 interest list that I doubt the Maps app can offer.
 
 The great thing about iOS is that there is something for everyone.  
 
 So, at your earliest convenience, jump in and give the new 
 turn-by-turn directions a spin.
 
 Oh, keep in mind that this feature is for iPHone 4 S and iPhone 5, only.
 
 Mark
 
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Re: Fleksy

2012-09-20 Thread Tom Rash

Same here.
- Original Message - 
From: Robert Fenton robert.fen...@samobile.net

To: Viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 4:19 PM
Subject: Fleksy


Fleksy is very sluggish after ios update.

Hello. I have noted long delays between tapping my phone and the keyboard 
clicks. Delays can be up to half a second. When you type quickly, some 
keystrokes are missed altogether. This problem really takes away from the 
effectiveness of this app. The problems are happening on my four s. What 
have others found? Thanks.


Bob Fenton

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: I downloaded iOs6 and my phone turned off and isn't coming back on

2012-09-20 Thread Tom Lange
Hi,
Like others on the list, I was a member of the 96% club, but after a bit, while 
I was on a call on my land line, the update finished up and the phone announced 
that it was about to restart.  Naturally, speech went away and all activity 
appeared to stop, at least audibly.  While I waited, and waited... and waited 
some more, I took the opportunity to install the latest iTunes on my laptop. 
When that was done, I unplugged and reconnected the phone, and iTunes told me 
that the phone was at IOS 6.0.  

Somehow I got speech back on the phone but I really can't say exactly how that 
happened.  When it did, there was an iPhone icon in the center of the screen 
and another one at the bottom, which, when I found it, was spoken in some sort 
of foreign language that sounded vaguely Asian but I couldn't say if it was 
Chinese or Korean; I really have no idea.

I tapped the iPhone icon and was told to enter my Apple ID password so that I 
could set up iCloud and iMessage.  Once I did this, and dealt with the 
obligatory license agreement and yadayadayada, lo and behold, my Home screen 
appeared and I breathed a sigh of relief. 

So all appears to be well, and my first impression is that my iPhone 4 seems to 
be a bit snappier in its response, but time will tell.

Just wanted to recount my experience with the update.

Tom
.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sandy Finley 
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  Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 11:12 AM
  Subject: I downloaded iOs6 and my phone turned off and isn't coming back on


  How long should I let it sit before I either turn it back on myself or panic?

  I think  it's been off for about 10 minutes.


   


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RE: Delightful Results with iOS 6 Map Navigation, So Far

2012-09-20 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Tom,

Be sure to set navigation to Walking, rather than driving and see what
happens.

Mark



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Thom
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 4:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Delightful Results with iOS 6 Map Navigation, So Far

I tried to use the turn by turn directions yersterday. It would announce how
far away from my house I was, until I got close to my destination. Then it
told me that my destination was 250 feet on the right. I didn't see anything
useful in between. I only went 4 tenths of a mile, but I think I need to
play with it a bit more.

Thom

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of M. Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 10:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Delightful Results with iOS 6 Map Navigation, So Far


Hello Everyone,

It has been a long day.  I have installed iOS 6 on 8 devices and each has
been extremely painful.  

Be that as it may, I just returned from testing the new Maps App with voice
guided navigation.  

I only went a couple of blocks, walking, but it worked like a charm.  

One feature that I truly love is the ability to show a route in list mode.  

A T  T Navigator offers a similar list but it is not VoiceOver accessible.


I have not yet tested the Maps in a car yet but will do so tomorrow.  

Now I'm not saying that I would choose this app over my Humanware Trekker
solution, but I may, if my current results hold, decide to unsubscribe from
A T  T Navigator, a service costing $9.95 a month.  

One thing that Navigator does offer, however, is an amazing points of
interest list that I doubt the Maps app can offer.

The great thing about iOS is that there is something for everyone.  

So, at your earliest convenience, jump in and give the new turn-by-turn
directions a spin.  

Oh, keep in mind that this feature is for iPHone 4 S and iPhone 5, only.

Mark

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Got My Tracking Number

2012-09-20 Thread E Steven S
I got my tracking number for the IPhone 5 to be delivered tomorrow.

Watch for yours!

Eric

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RE: Unable to update but why?

2012-09-20 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Kimberly,

Did you make certain that you have the latest version of iTunes installed
before beginning the update?

If you're using the Windows version of iTunes, you can check for updates by
first selecting the Help menu, then choose Check for Update.

Mark




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Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 10:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Unable to update but why?

Last night I tried to update my phone. But after being plugged into itunes
for like three hours, I got a message saying the update could not be done
because the firnware was incompatible. What's that about? Anybody have any
suggestions? 

Sent from Kimber's iPhone

On Sep 20, 2012, at 1:39 AM, Michelle McQuigge michelle.mcqui...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Same good news over here - all systems go on my more responsive 3gs.
 That upgrade process was a cakewalk, albeit a slow one. :)
 
 
 
 matthew Dyer wrote:
 Hi all.
 
 I am currently running iOS 6 and it is berry responceive on my 3GS.
 
 Matthew
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Sep 19, 2012, at 5:30 PM, Sandra Heaton san...@sandras-place.co.uk
wrote:
 
 
 
 I have also successfully updated here in the UK.
 Sandra
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 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 10:23 PM
 Subject: successfully updated
 
 
 Hi all.  Successfully updated from here.
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iOS6 Oddity with Voice Over volume following a call

2012-09-20 Thread Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
Hi All,

Since updating to iOS 6 on my iPHone 4S, when ending a call that I instigated, 
Voice Over seems to be off, in fact, its volume has been reduced to 0%…

Has anyone else experienced this at all…?

My resolution to date, has simply been, following the call, and the seemingly 
now dead iPhone, to simply tap the screen anywhere and press and hold the 
physical volume up key.

I also have experienced the same issue, although not every time, when using 
Siri and the Dictate button within SMS / iMessage etc.

Any thoughts?

Neil

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Re: Fleksy

2012-09-20 Thread Brian Moore
After Bob's note yesterday I tried this and find fleksy operates about 
the same speed as before the upgrade.  I intentionally typed as fast as 
I could and it had no trouble keeping up.


not sure what's going on. Despite all the claims to the contrary, I have 
still found that going into the app switcher and closing things once in 
a while does result in a significant performance improovement.

Brian.

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On 19/09/2012 10:36 PM, Michelle McQuigge wrote:

How bizarre! I just completed the update on my 3gs, and the whole
process went off without a hitch. The transition has been seamless,
and Fleksy is no exception. If anything I find my entire system more
rsponsive, Fleksy included.
Hope your issue is resolved pronto, Bob.
Michelle


Robert Fenton wrote:

Fleksy is very sluggish after ios update.

Hello. I have noted long delays between tapping my phone and the keyboard 
clicks. Delays can be up to half a second. When you type quickly, some 
keystrokes are missed altogether. This problem really takes away from the 
effectiveness of this app. The problems are happening on my four s. What have 
others found? Thanks.

Bob Fenton

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Re: Delightful Results with iOS 6 Map Navigation, So Far

2012-09-20 Thread Scott Howell
Mark,

I have not taken Maps for a walk yet; however, just standing in my house it 
seems that streets may be spoken. So, are you saying that as you approach an 
intersection the cross street is not announced?

On Sep 20, 2012, at 8:10 AM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:

 Hello Scott,
 
 To answer your first question, the Trekker, as does Mobile Speak,
 automatically announces cross streets either with or without a route being
 set.  This is a feature upon which I insist when traveling alone, in
 unfamiliar areas.  
 
 As to your second question, in my opinion, Apple is not in the business of
 Map making and, while they may offer very good solutions, I suspect that A T
  T Wireless, with its vast nationwide telephone infrastructure has more
 resources dedicated to maintaining POI updated listings.  This is just a
 supposition; perhaps Apple will prove me wrong as they have on several
 occasions.  (Smile).
 
 Mark
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Scott Howell
 Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 2:21 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Delightful Results with iOS 6 Map Navigation, So Far
 
 Mark,
 
 First, why would you not use Maps over the Treker? What are the most
 significant difference or feature prevents you from using Maps over that
 device? Second, why do you say that the Maps app could not have the level of
 POIs that the ATT Navigator app has? The one thing that everyone has to
 remember is as time progresses, APple will no doubt improve and enhance the
 Maps application. I am sure transit information for example will be
 forthcoming since that is a pretty significant piece that I am sure folks
 would use.
 
 On Sep 19, 2012, at 10:21 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:
 
 Hello Everyone,
 
 It has been a long day.  I have installed iOS 6 on 8 devices and each 
 has been extremely painful.
 
 Be that as it may, I just returned from testing the new Maps App with 
 voice guided navigation.
 
 I only went a couple of blocks, walking, but it worked like a charm.  
 
 One feature that I truly love is the ability to show a route in list mode.
 
 
 A T  T Navigator offers a similar list but it is not VoiceOver
 accessible.
 
 
 I have not yet tested the Maps in a car yet but will do so tomorrow.  
 
 Now I'm not saying that I would choose this app over my Humanware 
 Trekker solution, but I may, if my current results hold, decide to 
 unsubscribe from A T  T Navigator, a service costing $9.95 a month.
 
 One thing that Navigator does offer, however, is an amazing points of 
 interest list that I doubt the Maps app can offer.
 
 The great thing about iOS is that there is something for everyone.  
 
 So, at your earliest convenience, jump in and give the new 
 turn-by-turn directions a spin.
 
 Oh, keep in mind that this feature is for iPHone 4 S and iPhone 5, only.
 
 Mark
 
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Re: IOS 6.0 and Voiceover - Moving Folders and Apps

2012-09-20 Thread Scott Howell
No problems moving or deleting apps. I moved a couple of folders in fact from 
one screen to another and moved some apps both within folders and outside 
folders.

On Sep 20, 2012, at 7:25 AM, Kerry Painter kerryanne.pain...@gmail.com wrote:

 I’ve noticed a few little glitches with VO since updating and one of them is 
 the very action of moving folders and apps.  For some reason mine keeps 
 stopping for a few seconds and VO doesn’t do anything.  I also seem to be 
 able to move things up and down the screen far better than I can move them 
 sideways and it doesn’t always announce what app I’m moving onto even though 
 I know what app it is and that it should be there.
  
 Anyone else experienced this?
  
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Re: horrible fuzzy noise, iOS 6

2012-09-20 Thread Brett
That's nothing new. It was there in ios5  

Sent from Brett's iPhone

On 20/09/2012, at 3:21 PM, Morgan Scott tinymor...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi, and yuck that's gross, a hissing in voice over englishvoices? i'm 
 disgusted ! sorry but wow. other then that, iOS 6 is ok. Morgan. 
 On Sep 19, 2012, at 10:56 AM, Cristobal crismuno...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Are you using the compact or high quality voice? Did you by any chance get
 switched back to the high quality voice if you were in fact using the
 compact option previously? 
 
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 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: horrible fuzzy noise, iOS 6
 
 Hi All,
 
 Just updated my iPHone 4S to iOS 6, UK synth voice, there is now a horrid
 hissing noise whenever the synth finishes talking, it even changes hissing
 level as speech finishes.
 
 anyone else got this?
 
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Re: Fleksy

2012-09-20 Thread Robert Fenton
I have been in touch with the developer on this issue.  They have encountered 
the same problem in testing on occasion that I have experienced.  The problem 
is resolved by resetting the phone.  

Bob Fenton

Sent from my iPhone

On 2012-09-20, at 6:18 AM, Tom Rash dadnthed...@gmail.com wrote:

 Same here.
 - Original Message - From: Robert Fenton 
 robert.fen...@samobile.net
 To: Viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 4:19 PM
 Subject: Fleksy
 
 
 Fleksy is very sluggish after ios update.
 
 Hello. I have noted long delays between tapping my phone and the keyboard 
 clicks. Delays can be up to half a second. When you type quickly, some 
 keystrokes are missed altogether. This problem really takes away from the 
 effectiveness of this app. The problems are happening on my four s. What have 
 others found? Thanks.
 
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Re: Phone app opening after unlocking seems to be fixed

2012-09-20 Thread Scott Howell
Well I can say that rebooting did not change anything. However, the problem is 
not as bad as it was in 5.1.1. So, although I can make it happen it is not a 
big issue. :)

On Sep 20, 2012, at 6:57 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hmm,
 
 Interesting.  That bug has disappeared for me as well after updating to IOS6
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Sep 20, 2012, at 5:28 AM, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Ah! Well the phone bug is still there for me. :) I can live with this one to 
 be honest. :) I just learn to keep my fingers off the screen, but hey maybe 
 it depends on where you touch the screen. Glad you are not having the 
 problem yet. :)
 
 On Sep 20, 2012, at 12:10 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 Hi List,
 
 Just noticed that I don’t seem to have that issue any more where the phone 
 app opens after unlocking and if you end up touching the screen to quickly. 
 I tried it a few times and each time after unlocking immediately touched 
 the screen somewhere and all I got was Voiceover instantly telling me what 
 app I was touching. My 4S really does appear to be super responsive.
 
 I also noticed that my battery life has gone through the roof. It’s been 
 almost 9 hours since I unplugged it and I have done quite a bit with it, 
 listened for a while to Audible, updated some apps, moved a bunch of apps, 
 used SIRI as well as Maps app briefly and I am still at 70%, before this 
 update I’d be lucky to still have 30% after this time and what I did.
 
 
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RE: Delightful Results with iOS 6 Map Navigation, So Far

2012-09-20 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Jim,

Please see the message I just posted to the list that describes how to get
turn-by-turn directions.

Mark



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Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 5:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Delightful Results with iOS 6 Map Navigation, So Far

Hello Mark:

Where does one fine the walk option?


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Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 9:21 AM
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Subject: RE: Delightful Results with iOS 6 Map Navigation, So Far

Hello Tom,

Be sure to set navigation to Walking, rather than driving and see what
happens.

Mark



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Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 4:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Delightful Results with iOS 6 Map Navigation, So Far

I tried to use the turn by turn directions yersterday. It would announce how
far away from my house I was, until I got close to my destination. Then it
told me that my destination was 250 feet on the right. I didn't see anything
useful in between. I only went 4 tenths of a mile, but I think I need to
play with it a bit more.

Thom

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Subject: Delightful Results with iOS 6 Map Navigation, So Far


Hello Everyone,

It has been a long day.  I have installed iOS 6 on 8 devices and each has
been extremely painful.  

Be that as it may, I just returned from testing the new Maps App with voice
guided navigation.  

I only went a couple of blocks, walking, but it worked like a charm.  

One feature that I truly love is the ability to show a route in list mode.  

A T  T Navigator offers a similar list but it is not VoiceOver accessible.


I have not yet tested the Maps in a car yet but will do so tomorrow.  

Now I'm not saying that I would choose this app over my Humanware Trekker
solution, but I may, if my current results hold, decide to unsubscribe from
A T  T Navigator, a service costing $9.95 a month.  

One thing that Navigator does offer, however, is an amazing points of
interest list that I doubt the Maps app can offer.

The great thing about iOS is that there is something for everyone.  

So, at your earliest convenience, jump in and give the new turn-by-turn
directions a spin.  

Oh, keep in mind that this feature is for iPHone 4 S and iPhone 5, only.

Mark

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Re: IOS 6.0 and Voiceover - Moving Folders and Apps

2012-09-20 Thread Robert Fenton
Does anyone have a good cheat sheet to describe the various steps involved in 
moving apps into folders, both on the existing screen or onto a new screen?  I 
have never been able to master this task effectively.  If you wish, please send 
me what you have off list.  Thank you. 

Bob Fenton

Sent from my iPhone

On 2012-09-20, at 6:46 AM, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com wrote:

 No problems moving or deleting apps. I moved a couple of folders in fact from 
 one screen to another and moved some apps both within folders and outside 
 folders.
 
 On Sep 20, 2012, at 7:25 AM, Kerry Painter kerryanne.pain...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I’ve noticed a few little glitches with VO since updating and one of them is 
 the very action of moving folders and apps.  For some reason mine keeps 
 stopping for a few seconds and VO doesn’t do anything.  I also seem to be 
 able to move things up and down the screen far better than I can move them 
 sideways and it doesn’t always announce what app I’m moving onto even though 
 I know what app it is and that it should be there.
  
 Anyone else experienced this?
  
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RE: Delightful Results with iOS 6 Map Navigation, So Far

2012-09-20 Thread Thom
Have we found out yet if maps will recalculate a route if I decide to take
another street, or miss a turn?

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Delightful Results with iOS 6 Map Navigation, So Far


Hello Rex,

As I stated previously, turn-by-turn only works with iPhone 4 S and 5.

OK, assuming that you have one of these models, you may do the following in
order to get directions to a location.  

Please keep in mind that this is the method I use, so far; there may be a
more efficient way.

1.
Launch the Maps App.

2.
Near the top of the screen, there is a search field.  Enter an address.  For
example, 4141 Ball Road Cypress, California.  It does not appear necessary
to enter delimiters such as commas. Also, although I have not yet done so,
you may be able to use the dictation feature to enter the address or even
get Siri to do the entire thing for you.

3.
Once the address is located, you will have several options on the screen
including the option to bookmark the address you just entered.

4.
Above the search field, which is now populated with the address you just
entered, you will discover a Directions button.  Double-Tap, the Directions
Button.  A Route Dialog Box opens.  

5.
At the top of this Dialog Box are several options including the ability to
create either a driving or walking route.  Make your selection.  

6.
Located below these options in the same Dialog Box you will discover both
the From and To fields by which you may set the beginning and end point of
your route.  After confirming this information, you will be returned to the
map view but with several different options.

7.
Assuming that you like the current route being shown simply Double-Tap the
Start button located near the top of the screen.

Mark

























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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of rex wisdom
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 7:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Delightful Results with iOS 6 Map Navigation, So Far

I have just upgraded to 6.  I went to settings and maps to operate turn by
turn directions but could not get it to work.  Would you please tell me how
you got turn by turn to work?

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of M. Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 9:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Delightful Results with iOS 6 Map Navigation, So Far

Hello Everyone,

It has been a long day.  I have installed iOS 6 on 8 devices and each has
been extremely painful.  

Be that as it may, I just returned from testing the new Maps App with voice
guided navigation.  

I only went a couple of blocks, walking, but it worked like a charm.  

One feature that I truly love is the ability to show a route in list mode.  

A T  T Navigator offers a similar list but it is not VoiceOver accessible.


I have not yet tested the Maps in a car yet but will do so tomorrow.  

Now I'm not saying that I would choose this app over my Humanware Trekker
solution, but I may, if my current results hold, decide to unsubscribe from
A T  T Navigator, a service costing $9.95 a month.  

One thing that Navigator does offer, however, is an amazing points of
interest list that I doubt the Maps app can offer.

The great thing about iOS is that there is something for everyone.  

So, at your earliest convenience, jump in and give the new turn-by-turn
directions a spin.  

Oh, keep in mind that this feature is for iPHone 4 S and iPhone 5, only.

Mark

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RE: iOS6 Oddity with Voice Over volume following a call

2012-09-20 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Neil,

I just performed several tests to see if I could reproduce your volume issue
but I cannot.

Regardless of whether I initiate or answer a call, when the call ends,
either via a double-tap on my part or the other party disconnecting,
VoiceOver acts just as it should, or rather, as it always has.

In short, I cannot reproduce your problem on my iPhone 4 S.

Mark

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Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 5:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iOS6 Oddity with Voice Over volume following a call

Hi All,

Since updating to iOS 6 on my iPHone 4S, when ending a call that I
instigated, Voice Over seems to be off, in fact, its volume has been reduced
to 0%.

Has anyone else experienced this at all.?

My resolution to date, has simply been, following the call, and the
seemingly now dead iPhone, to simply tap the screen anywhere and press and
hold the physical volume up key.

I also have experienced the same issue, although not every time, when using
Siri and the Dictate button within SMS / iMessage etc.

Any thoughts?

Neil

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RE: Delightful Results with iOS 6 Map Navigation, So Far

2012-09-20 Thread Jim Noseworthy
Mark:

Thanks for the information.  I was using SIRI to set an address; thus I had
problems discovering the walk option.

I'm on it now.



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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Delightful Results with iOS 6 Map Navigation, So Far

Hello Rex,

As I stated previously, turn-by-turn only works with iPhone 4 S and 5.

OK, assuming that you have one of these models, you may do the following in
order to get directions to a location.  

Please keep in mind that this is the method I use, so far; there may be a
more efficient way.

1.
Launch the Maps App.

2.
Near the top of the screen, there is a search field.  Enter an address.  For
example, 4141 Ball Road Cypress, California.  It does not appear necessary
to enter delimiters such as commas. Also, although I have not yet done so,
you may be able to use the dictation feature to enter the address or even
get Siri to do the entire thing for you.

3.
Once the address is located, you will have several options on the screen
including the option to bookmark the address you just entered.

4.
Above the search field, which is now populated with the address you just
entered, you will discover a Directions button.  Double-Tap, the Directions
Button.  A Route Dialog Box opens.  

5.
At the top of this Dialog Box are several options including the ability to
create either a driving or walking route.  Make your selection.  

6.
Located below these options in the same Dialog Box you will discover both
the From and To fields by which you may set the beginning and end point of
your route.  After confirming this information, you will be returned to the
map view but with several different options.

7.
Assuming that you like the current route being shown simply Double-Tap the
Start button located near the top of the screen.

Mark

























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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of rex wisdom
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 7:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Delightful Results with iOS 6 Map Navigation, So Far

I have just upgraded to 6.  I went to settings and maps to operate turn by
turn directions but could not get it to work.  Would you please tell me how
you got turn by turn to work?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of M. Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 9:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Delightful Results with iOS 6 Map Navigation, So Far

Hello Everyone,

It has been a long day.  I have installed iOS 6 on 8 devices and each has
been extremely painful.  

Be that as it may, I just returned from testing the new Maps App with voice
guided navigation.  

I only went a couple of blocks, walking, but it worked like a charm.  

One feature that I truly love is the ability to show a route in list mode.  

A T  T Navigator offers a similar list but it is not VoiceOver accessible.


I have not yet tested the Maps in a car yet but will do so tomorrow.  

Now I'm not saying that I would choose this app over my Humanware Trekker
solution, but I may, if my current results hold, decide to unsubscribe from
A T  T Navigator, a service costing $9.95 a month.  

One thing that Navigator does offer, however, is an amazing points of
interest list that I doubt the Maps app can offer.

The great thing about iOS is that there is something for everyone.  

So, at your earliest convenience, jump in and give the new turn-by-turn
directions a spin.  

Oh, keep in mind that this feature is for iPHone 4 S and iPhone 5, only.

Mark

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Do I need plugged-in phone to update?

2012-09-20 Thread Regina Alvarado
I want to update this morning.  Do I need to have the charger on the phone
during the update? I still do not have a proper iTunes on computer that
makes any sense so will be updating through the air.  I have backed up to
the iCloud and taken everything from the switcher.

Reggie

 

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Re: iOS6 Oddity with Voice Over volume following a call

2012-09-20 Thread Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
Mark,

That is on one hand good news, on the other, bad.

I have an iPhone 5 arriving tomorrow, so shall not bother to try and fix this 
problem!
On 20 Sep 2012, at 13:59, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:

 Hello Neil,
 
 I just performed several tests to see if I could reproduce your volume issue
 but I cannot.
 
 Regardless of whether I initiate or answer a call, when the call ends,
 either via a double-tap on my part or the other party disconnecting,
 VoiceOver acts just as it should, or rather, as it always has.
 
 In short, I cannot reproduce your problem on my iPhone 4 S.
 
 Mark
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
 Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 5:41 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: iOS6 Oddity with Voice Over volume following a call
 
 Hi All,
 
 Since updating to iOS 6 on my iPHone 4S, when ending a call that I
 instigated, Voice Over seems to be off, in fact, its volume has been reduced
 to 0%.
 
 Has anyone else experienced this at all.?
 
 My resolution to date, has simply been, following the call, and the
 seemingly now dead iPhone, to simply tap the screen anywhere and press and
 hold the physical volume up key.
 
 I also have experienced the same issue, although not every time, when using
 Siri and the Dictate button within SMS / iMessage etc.
 
 Any thoughts?
 
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RE: Delightful Results with iOS 6 Map Navigation, So Far

2012-09-20 Thread Thom
Also try by asking siri to give you step by step directions. This may put it
in walking mode.

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Subject: RE: Delightful Results with iOS 6 Map Navigation, So Far


Mark:

Thanks for the information.  I was using SIRI to set an address; thus I had
problems discovering the walk option.

I'm on it now.



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Subject: RE: Delightful Results with iOS 6 Map Navigation, So Far

Hello Rex,

As I stated previously, turn-by-turn only works with iPhone 4 S and 5.

OK, assuming that you have one of these models, you may do the following in
order to get directions to a location.  

Please keep in mind that this is the method I use, so far; there may be a
more efficient way.

1.
Launch the Maps App.

2.
Near the top of the screen, there is a search field.  Enter an address.  For
example, 4141 Ball Road Cypress, California.  It does not appear necessary
to enter delimiters such as commas. Also, although I have not yet done so,
you may be able to use the dictation feature to enter the address or even
get Siri to do the entire thing for you.

3.
Once the address is located, you will have several options on the screen
including the option to bookmark the address you just entered.

4.
Above the search field, which is now populated with the address you just
entered, you will discover a Directions button.  Double-Tap, the Directions
Button.  A Route Dialog Box opens.  

5.
At the top of this Dialog Box are several options including the ability to
create either a driving or walking route.  Make your selection.  

6.
Located below these options in the same Dialog Box you will discover both
the From and To fields by which you may set the beginning and end point of
your route.  After confirming this information, you will be returned to the
map view but with several different options.

7.
Assuming that you like the current route being shown simply Double-Tap the
Start button located near the top of the screen.

Mark

























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Of rex wisdom
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 7:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Delightful Results with iOS 6 Map Navigation, So Far

I have just upgraded to 6.  I went to settings and maps to operate turn by
turn directions but could not get it to work.  Would you please tell me how
you got turn by turn to work?

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Subject: Delightful Results with iOS 6 Map Navigation, So Far

Hello Everyone,

It has been a long day.  I have installed iOS 6 on 8 devices and each has
been extremely painful.  

Be that as it may, I just returned from testing the new Maps App with voice
guided navigation.  

I only went a couple of blocks, walking, but it worked like a charm.  

One feature that I truly love is the ability to show a route in list mode.  

A T  T Navigator offers a similar list but it is not VoiceOver accessible.


I have not yet tested the Maps in a car yet but will do so tomorrow.  

Now I'm not saying that I would choose this app over my Humanware Trekker
solution, but I may, if my current results hold, decide to unsubscribe from
A T  T Navigator, a service costing $9.95 a month.  

One thing that Navigator does offer, however, is an amazing points of
interest list that I doubt the Maps app can offer.

The great thing about iOS is that there is something for everyone.  

So, at your earliest convenience, jump in and give the new turn-by-turn
directions a spin.  

Oh, keep in mind that this feature is for iPHone 4 S and iPhone 5, only.

Mark

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Re: IOS 6.0 and Voiceover - Moving Folders and Apps

2012-09-20 Thread Brian Moore
looking for the same. I understand the concept but have never been able 
to get it right.  most of the apps I want to group together are on 
different pages so I suspect this is part of the problem but I have 
tried and never quite gotten what I wanted.

Brian.

Contact me on skype: brian.moore
follow me on twitter:
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On 20/09/2012 8:56 AM, Robert Fenton wrote:
Does anyone have a good cheat sheet to describe the various steps 
involved in moving apps into folders, both on the existing screen or 
onto a new screen?  I have never been able to master this task 
effectively.  If you wish, please send me what you have off list. 
 Thank you.


Bob Fenton

Sent from my iPhone

On 2012-09-20, at 6:46 AM, Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com 
mailto:scottn3...@gmail.com wrote:


No problems moving or deleting apps. I moved a couple of folders in 
fact from one screen to another and moved some apps both within 
folders and outside folders.


On Sep 20, 2012, at 7:25 AM, Kerry Painter 
kerryanne.pain...@gmail.com mailto:kerryanne.pain...@gmail.com wrote:


I’ve noticed a few little glitches with VO since updating and one of 
them is the very action of moving folders and apps.  For some reason 
mine keeps stopping for a few seconds and VO doesn’t do anything.  I 
also seem to be able to move things up and down the screen far 
better than I can move them sideways and it doesn’t always announce 
what app I’m moving onto even though I know what app it is and that 
it should be there.

Anyone else experienced this?
Kerry

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Re: Do I need plugged-in phone to update?

2012-09-20 Thread Kimberly
Yes,in order to save your battery it's best to plug in the phone.

Sent from Kimber's iPhone

On Sep 20, 2012, at 9:02 AM, Regina Alvarado reggie.alvar...@gmail.com wrote:

 I want to update this morning.  Do I need to have the charger on the phone 
 during the update? I still do not have a proper iTunes on computer that makes 
 any sense so will be updating through the air.  I have backed up to the 
 iCloud and taken everything from the switcher.
 Reggie
  
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