Re: Bluetooth keyboard and Apple fourth-generation TV

[Mary Otten]

Oh boy! That sounds like a big step back. Hopefully, they will fix this in the 
coming months.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 31, 2015, at 8:40 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose  wrote:
> 
> I've tried and it doesn't work. Unfortunately as you say the new
> keyboard layout is even worse than the old one and even though the TV
> has Siri you don't appear to be able to use dictation.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ben.
> 
>> On 11/1/15, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> For those of you who have the new AppleTV, has any of you tried connecting
>> it with an apple or other Bluetooth keyboard and what have your results
>> been? I saw an article in some tech blogger other today commenting on the
>> fact that typing stuff on the screen is now much more difficult, because
>> they don't have the grid that they used to have for use with the remote. It
>> is apparently one long line of letters and one long line of numbers. And the
>> author was complaining that this was very much a pain in the butt. They did
>> not say anything about using a Bluetooth keyboard, making me think that that
>> might not be an option. So, what say you?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Bluetooth keyboard and Apple fourth-generation TV

[Ben Mustill-Rose]

Hi,

In my opinion, the Os, poticually Siri leaves a lot to be desired at
the moment, not to mention that there are some very obvious VO bugs
that really should have been fixed before release.
On a somewhat related note, I've found that if you keep the new remote
in your pocket it will sometimes activate various things as you walk
about. Yesterday I was tidying my bedroom with the remote in my pocket
and as a result, unbeknownst to me, the Apple TV (which is located in
my sitting room) purchased a film. Unfortunately the first I knew of
said purchase was when the film started playing, by which time it was
too late.

Cheers,
Ben.

On 11/1/15, Mary Otten  wrote:
> Oh boy! That sounds like a big step back. Hopefully, they will fix this in
> the coming months.
> Mary
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Oct 31, 2015, at 8:40 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose  wrote:
>>
>> I've tried and it doesn't work. Unfortunately as you say the new
>> keyboard layout is even worse than the old one and even though the TV
>> has Siri you don't appear to be able to use dictation.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Ben.
>>
>>> On 11/1/15, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> For those of you who have the new AppleTV, has any of you tried
>>> connecting
>>> it with an apple or other Bluetooth keyboard and what have your results
>>> been? I saw an article in some tech blogger other today commenting on
>>> the
>>> fact that typing stuff on the screen is now much more difficult, because
>>> they don't have the grid that they used to have for use with the remote.
>>> It
>>> is apparently one long line of letters and one long line of numbers. And
>>> the
>>> author was complaining that this was very much a pain in the butt. They
>>> did
>>> not say anything about using a Bluetooth keyboard, making me think that
>>> that
>>> might not be an option. So, what say you?
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Bluetooth keyboard and Apple fourth-generation TV

[John Diakogeorgiou]

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> On Oct 31, 2015, at 11:36 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> For those of his podcast and it didn't work..who have the new AppleTV, has 
> any of you tried connecting it with an apple or other Bluetooth keyboard and 
> what have your results been? I saw an article in some tech blogger other 
> today commenting on the fact that typing stuff on the screen is now much more 
> difficult, because they don't have the grid that they used to have for use 
> with the remote. It is apparently one long line of letters and one long line 
> of numbers. And the author was complaining that this was very much a pain in 
> the butt. They did not say anything about using a Bluetooth keyboard, making 
> me think that that might not be an option. So, what say you?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Talking kitchen scale, was: Drop bluetooth kitchen scale

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hello,

 

Since several people asked, I will post the message about my talking kitchen 
scale even though it is not a connected device/iOS accessory. Maybe somebody 
will buy this Drop Bluetooth scale and report back, but for anybody who wants 
just a good talking scale, the Myway Vox 3000TS (the model I have had for the 
last 15 or 16 years) or the newer Vox-2 are great and relatively inexpensive 
options. Here is the message I sent privately to Christina:

 

The scale I have is called the Vox 3000TS from a company called “My Way”.

It can weigh up to 3 Kg (6 pounds and almost 10 ounces) and says it's up to 1 
gram accurate (0.05 ounces). Well, at least it counts up in such small 
increments.

The scale uses a 9 Volt battery (one of those large square batteries) and it 
lasts quite long.

As you can see from the description, the scale also has an LCD display so it's 
even nice and easy to use for a sighted person, here is the link to the 
company's website:

http://myweigh.com/product/vox-3000ts/

 

When I googled "Vox 3000 talking scale", I found the Myway website first, after 
that I saw that you can even buy it on Amazon and then the third link was an 
Amazon link to a Vox-2 Talking Kitchen Scale. It seems that this is a newer 
model and it sounds even better because it mentions that it uses 4 double A 
batteries and also it can weigh up to 5 Kg or 11 pounds.

I didn't check if Maxiaids still sells it, but in a way it is probably easier 
and cheaper to order it on Amazon and they sure have come down in price, the 
Vox 3000TS I have on Amazon.com is only $29.17 and the newer Vox-2 is only $45. 
I would totally go for the Vox-2, for one thing it mentions that the sVox 
3000TS is available from several sellers for $29.17, but that you only get free 
shipping with a $35 order. The Vox-2 is $45 and has free shipping so by the 
time you add shipping to the cheaper one you probably hardly save anything and 
regardless, at $45 this is still only half of what that Bluetooth Drop scale 
goes for. Here are the links to both:

Vox 3000TS: 

http://www.amazon.com/My-Weigh-Talking-Digital-Scale/dp/B000G6ZLM0/ref=pd_bxgy_79_2?ie=UTF8
 

 =0RT6X3KV22J447J3N3W9

 

Vox-2 Talking Kitchen Scale:

http://www.amazon.com/My-Weigh-VOX-2-Talking-Kitchen/dp/B00I5PRHSK

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gary Petraccaro
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 8:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Drop bluetooth kitchen scale

 

I would also like the brand/model information on the scale since my venerable 
TRS has died and needs replacement.  Thanks.

 

- Original Message - 

From: Sieghard Weitzel   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2015 9:22 AM

Subject: RE: Drop bluetooth kitchen scale

 

Hi Christina,

 

You are wondering if the weight is read out on the iDevice and I am sure it 
would be if the app is accessible. I read in the description “there is no need 
to touch your iPad with dirty fingers”. This of course prompted me to read more 
since it said “iPad” and not “iPhone”. I then found the following:

 

Works with iPad mini, iPad mini 2, iPad mini 3, iPad 3rd generation, iPad 4th 
generation, iPad Air and iPad Air 2. Requires iOS 8.

 

So, it appears the app is iPad only and since there is no mention of the iPhone 
I assume this will not work with an iPhone.

 

Now, as for talking kitchen scales, I have one I bought a very long time ago 
from Maxiaids. I think I have had this thing for 15 or 18 years and it is 
accurate and it just works and works and works. Of course I don’t know if it is 
still available, but I’ll get my wife to see what it says on the scale as far 
as a brand/model and write you directly. It is accurate to around 5 grams or 
around 0.2 ounces which for cooking and baking is plenty good enough and while 
I love gadgets, I think there is something to be said for some stand-alone 
devices where I push a single button and I don’t have to pull out my iPhone, 
load an app and so on. The scale I have continuously reads out the measurement 
as you add stuff to the bowl and while it probably can’t do what this Drop 
scale can do, you can switch it to either metric or imperial measurements and 
the nice thing is that if you want to measure something where the included 
plastic bowl is not big enough, you can just take it off and replace it with 
any plate or bowl you want. As long as you turn on the scale after you put the 
bowl you are using on the scale it will zero itself with whatever you put on it 
and then measure from there.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christina C.
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 1:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com

RE: Talking kitchen scale, was: Drop bluetooth kitchen scale

[Cristóbal]

Just goes to show how it can be so hit and miss. The Vox 3000 I got lasted me 
not even four months. I then got a My Weigh Vox 2 (capacity of 5,000 grams) and 
that lasted all of three weeks. I used them mainly for preparing coffee and 
need something that can weigh by the gram. Five or ten gram invervols is too 
huge a variation. This is why in part I got rid of the Cobalt talking scale I 
had.

It’s very unfortunate since its really only My Weigh that we have as an option. 
If you go to the various online accessibility-centric stores, they all sell the 
same exact same My Weigh talking scales.

I would be interested in an alternative, but as was mentioned before, even with 
an accessible bluetooth device, I would imagine it being tedious after a while 
trying to get a reading every single time or if you wanted to double check a 
measurement.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 9:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Talking kitchen scale, was: Drop bluetooth kitchen scale

 

Hello,

 

Since several people asked, I will post the message about my talking kitchen 
scale even though it is not a connected device/iOS accessory. Maybe somebody 
will buy this Drop Bluetooth scale and report back, but for anybody who wants 
just a good talking scale, the Myway Vox 3000TS (the model I have had for the 
last 15 or 16 years) or the newer Vox-2 are great and relatively inexpensive 
options. Here is the message I sent privately to Christina:

 

The scale I have is called the Vox 3000TS from a company called “My Way”.

It can weigh up to 3 Kg (6 pounds and almost 10 ounces) and says it's up to 1 
gram accurate (0.05 ounces). Well, at least it counts up in such small 
increments.

The scale uses a 9 Volt battery (one of those large square batteries) and it 
lasts quite long.

As you can see from the description, the scale also has an LCD display so it's 
even nice and easy to use for a sighted person, here is the link to the 
company's website:

 

http://myweigh.com/product/vox-3000ts/

 

When I googled "Vox 3000 talking scale", I found the Myway website first, after 
that I saw that you can even buy it on Amazon and then the third link was an 
Amazon link to a Vox-2 Talking Kitchen Scale. It seems that this is a newer 
model and it sounds even better because it mentions that it uses 4 double A 
batteries and also it can weigh up to 5 Kg or 11 pounds.

 

I didn't check if Maxiaids still sells it, but in a way it is probably easier 
and cheaper to order it on Amazon and they sure have come down in price, the 
Vox 3000TS I have on Amazon.com is only $29.17 and the newer Vox-2 is only $45. 
I would totally go for the Vox-2, for one thing it mentions that the sVox 
3000TS is available from several sellers for $29.17, but that you only get free 
shipping with a $35 order. The Vox-2 is $45 and has free shipping so by the 
time you add shipping to the cheaper one you probably hardly save anything and 
regardless, at $45 this is still only half of what that Bluetooth Drop scale 
goes for. Here are the links to both:

 

Vox 3000TS: 

http://www.amazon.com/My-Weigh-Talking-Digital-Scale/dp/B000G6ZLM0/ref=pd_bxgy_79_2?ie=UTF8
 

 =0RT6X3KV22J447J3N3W9

 

Vox-2 Talking Kitchen Scale:

http://www.amazon.com/My-Weigh-VOX-2-Talking-Kitchen/dp/B00I5PRHSK

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gary Petraccaro
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 8:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Drop bluetooth kitchen scale

 

I would also like the brand/model information on the scale since my venerable 
TRS has died and needs replacement.  Thanks.

 

- Original Message - 

From: Sieghard Weitzel   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2015 9:22 AM

Subject: RE: Drop bluetooth kitchen scale

 

Hi Christina,

 

You are wondering if the weight is read out on the iDevice and I am sure it 
would be if the app is accessible. I read in the description “there is no need 
to touch your iPad with dirty fingers”. This of course prompted me to read more 
since it said “iPad” and not “iPhone”. I then found the following:

 

Works with iPad mini, iPad mini 2, iPad mini 3, iPad 3rd generation, iPad 4th 
generation, iPad Air and iPad Air 2. Requires iOS 8.

 

So, it appears the app is iPad only and since there is no mention of the iPhone 
I assume this will not work with an iPhone.

 

Now, as for talking kitchen scales, I have one I bought a very long time ago 
from Maxiaids. I think I have had this thing for 15 or 18 years and it is 
accurate and it just works and works and works. Of course I don’t know if it is 
still available, but I’ll get my wife to see what it says on the scale as far 
as a 

Re: Bluetooth keyboard and Apple fourth-generation TV

[Daniel Miller]

Hi,

For future reference, don’t put it in your pocket while you’re cleaning. lmao. 
But seriously, they do need to bring back bluetooth keyboard support, or at the 
very least, the ability to use the remote iOS app.

> On Oct 31, 2015, at 11:38 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> You have to enter your password for the first download yes, but the TV
> gives you the option to remember your password for future downloads.
> Since I didn't know that the remote would behave in the way it did I
> let it remember my password as I live on my own and reasoned that
> there wouldn't really ever be a situation where someone else would be
> alone with the TV in my flat.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ben.
> 
> On 11/1/15, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> It purchased a film? How did the keyboard purchase a film? Don't you have to
>> enter your password or at least use a touch ID or something? That really
>> sucks!
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 31, 2015, at 9:15 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> In my opinion, the Os, poticually Siri leaves a lot to be desired at
>>> the moment, not to mention that there are some very obvious VO bugs
>>> that really should have been fixed before release.
>>> On a somewhat related note, I've found that if you keep the new remote
>>> in your pocket it will sometimes activate various things as you walk
>>> about. Yesterday I was tidying my bedroom with the remote in my pocket
>>> and as a result, unbeknownst to me, the Apple TV (which is located in
>>> my sitting room) purchased a film. Unfortunately the first I knew of
>>> said purchase was when the film started playing, by which time it was
>>> too late.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ben.
>>> 
 On 11/1/15, Mary Otten  wrote:
 Oh boy! That sounds like a big step back. Hopefully, they will fix this
 in
 the coming months.
 Mary
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Oct 31, 2015, at 8:40 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose  wrote:
> 
> I've tried and it doesn't work. Unfortunately as you say the new
> keyboard layout is even worse than the old one and even though the TV
> has Siri you don't appear to be able to use dictation.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ben.
> 
>> On 11/1/15, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> For those of you who have the new AppleTV, has any of you tried
>> connecting
>> it with an apple or other Bluetooth keyboard and what have your
>> results
>> been? I saw an article in some tech blogger other today commenting on
>> the
>> fact that typing stuff on the screen is now much more difficult,
>> because
>> they don't have the grid that they used to have for use with the
>> remote.
>> It
>> is apparently one long line of letters and one long line of numbers.
>> And
>> the
>> author was complaining that this was very much a pain in the butt.
>> They
>> did
>> not say anything about using a Bluetooth keyboard, making me think
>> that
>> that
>> might not be an option. So, what say you?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Bluetooth keyboard and Apple fourth-generation TV

[Mary Otten]

It purchased a film? How did the keyboard purchase a film? Don't you have to 
enter your password or at least use a touch ID or something? That really sucks!
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 31, 2015, at 9:15 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> In my opinion, the Os, poticually Siri leaves a lot to be desired at
> the moment, not to mention that there are some very obvious VO bugs
> that really should have been fixed before release.
> On a somewhat related note, I've found that if you keep the new remote
> in your pocket it will sometimes activate various things as you walk
> about. Yesterday I was tidying my bedroom with the remote in my pocket
> and as a result, unbeknownst to me, the Apple TV (which is located in
> my sitting room) purchased a film. Unfortunately the first I knew of
> said purchase was when the film started playing, by which time it was
> too late.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ben.
> 
>> On 11/1/15, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> Oh boy! That sounds like a big step back. Hopefully, they will fix this in
>> the coming months.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 31, 2015, at 8:40 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I've tried and it doesn't work. Unfortunately as you say the new
>>> keyboard layout is even worse than the old one and even though the TV
>>> has Siri you don't appear to be able to use dictation.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ben.
>>> 
 On 11/1/15, Mary Otten  wrote:
 For those of you who have the new AppleTV, has any of you tried
 connecting
 it with an apple or other Bluetooth keyboard and what have your results
 been? I saw an article in some tech blogger other today commenting on
 the
 fact that typing stuff on the screen is now much more difficult, because
 they don't have the grid that they used to have for use with the remote.
 It
 is apparently one long line of letters and one long line of numbers. And
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 not say anything about using a Bluetooth keyboard, making me think that
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Re: trouble downloading from the app store

[Kimberly]

I had this problem not too long ago. A reset of my network settings on the 
iPhone fixed the problem. Make sure, if you're going to try this, that you have 
your network password on hand since you will have to enter it to get 
reconnected to your wifi.

Kimber

Sent from Kimber's iPhone

> On Oct 31, 2015, at 7:55 PM, don bishop  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Is anyone else having trouble downloading from the app store today? 
>> When I try and download something I seem to get stuck at the "connecting" 
>> message. 
>> also, I haven't seen anything updated since Oct 22, but that may not be 
>> related.  
>> 
>> Don  
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Re: Bluetooth keyboard and Apple fourth-generation TV

[Ben Mustill-Rose]

I've tried and it doesn't work. Unfortunately as you say the new
keyboard layout is even worse than the old one and even though the TV
has Siri you don't appear to be able to use dictation.

Cheers,
Ben.

On 11/1/15, Mary Otten  wrote:
> For those of you who have the new AppleTV, has any of you tried connecting
> it with an apple or other Bluetooth keyboard and what have your results
> been? I saw an article in some tech blogger other today commenting on the
> fact that typing stuff on the screen is now much more difficult, because
> they don't have the grid that they used to have for use with the remote. It
> is apparently one long line of letters and one long line of numbers. And the
> author was complaining that this was very much a pain in the butt. They did
> not say anything about using a Bluetooth keyboard, making me think that that
> might not be an option. So, what say you?
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Re: Does anyone know how I can send multiple word documents as attachments in a single e-mail from my IPad?

[Jun Jun Limbo]

On the message body put your router to Edit. Flick until you hear attachment 
then double top. Locate the file word doc you wat to attach. After repeat the 
process for the other word document. Hope1this helps.

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> Hi all 
> 
> Just wondering if anyone can help me. I have 2 Word documents which I've 
> written and are saved on ICloud Drive on my IPad Mini 3. I want to e-mail 
> these documents out to people as attachments, but obviously would rather 
> attach both of them to the same e-mail. So does anyone know how I can do this 
> from my IPad. Any help/instructions much appreciated. 
> 
> Many thanks. 
> 
> Eleanor 
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Re: Bus Stops

[John Diakogeorgiou]

I was looking for an app which  shows you where the poles are.

John Diakogeorgiou

> On Oct 31, 2015, at 6:41 PM, SSEric  wrote:
> 
> In my earlier suggestion, I was not sure if BusTracker is a local product.
> It is for Columbus, Ohio (COTA).
> 
> As I said, it has been awhile since I used it. Actually, I looked in the App
> Store, and it has not been updated since 2010. However, it does work on the
> bus to name passing intersections. It may not give more information than a
> stop is at so and so. And, since there have been some major changes in
> routes, even those might not be accurate. But, the tracking part might still
> be useful. Since Uber, I seldom take busses any more.
> 
> Eric
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of John Diakogeorgiou
> Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2015 1:51 PM
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> Subject: Re: Bus Stops
> 
> We are looking for an app which actually tells the person where the bus stop
> is.
> 
>> On 10/29/15, Walter Ramage  wrote:
>> Hi.  Right, I'm afraid I can't help you on this occasion as I'm in the UK
>> but I understand Apple has included transit information for some locations
>> in there maps in 9 and that might help you.  In the UK there is an app
>> called Travel Line GB.  This app has a list of every bus stop in the UK.
>> The app locates you and lets you know what your nearest bus stops are and
>> how far they are from your location.  It also tells you which busses stop
> at
>> that stop and if you click on live arrivals it will tell you what bus and
>> number is due and at what time and how far away it is.  There is much more
>> to this app but I would think that there would be something similar for
> the
>> USA, if not nationally then at least on a state by state basis.   Walter.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of John Diakogeorgiou
>> Sent: 29 October 2015 17:08
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Bus Stops
>> 
>> Good point! Columbus Ohio
>> 
>> John Diakogeorgiou
>> 
>>> On Oct 29, 2015, at 12:43 PM, Walter Ramage  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi.  Where is your location?  Walter.
>>> 
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>>> Subject: Bus Stops
>>> 
>>> Hi:
>>> Is their an app out there which when walking down the street tells you
>>> where a bus stop is?
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Re: Bluetooth keyboard and Apple fourth-generation TV

[Ben Mustill-Rose]

Hi,

You have to enter your password for the first download yes, but the TV
gives you the option to remember your password for future downloads.
Since I didn't know that the remote would behave in the way it did I
let it remember my password as I live on my own and reasoned that
there wouldn't really ever be a situation where someone else would be
alone with the TV in my flat.

Cheers,
Ben.

On 11/1/15, Mary Otten  wrote:
> It purchased a film? How did the keyboard purchase a film? Don't you have to
> enter your password or at least use a touch ID or something? That really
> sucks!
> Mary
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Oct 31, 2015, at 9:15 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose  wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> In my opinion, the Os, poticually Siri leaves a lot to be desired at
>> the moment, not to mention that there are some very obvious VO bugs
>> that really should have been fixed before release.
>> On a somewhat related note, I've found that if you keep the new remote
>> in your pocket it will sometimes activate various things as you walk
>> about. Yesterday I was tidying my bedroom with the remote in my pocket
>> and as a result, unbeknownst to me, the Apple TV (which is located in
>> my sitting room) purchased a film. Unfortunately the first I knew of
>> said purchase was when the film started playing, by which time it was
>> too late.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Ben.
>>
>>> On 11/1/15, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> Oh boy! That sounds like a big step back. Hopefully, they will fix this
>>> in
>>> the coming months.
>>> Mary
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
 On Oct 31, 2015, at 8:40 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose  wrote:

 I've tried and it doesn't work. Unfortunately as you say the new
 keyboard layout is even worse than the old one and even though the TV
 has Siri you don't appear to be able to use dictation.

 Cheers,
 Ben.

> On 11/1/15, Mary Otten  wrote:
> For those of you who have the new AppleTV, has any of you tried
> connecting
> it with an apple or other Bluetooth keyboard and what have your
> results
> been? I saw an article in some tech blogger other today commenting on
> the
> fact that typing stuff on the screen is now much more difficult,
> because
> they don't have the grid that they used to have for use with the
> remote.
> It
> is apparently one long line of letters and one long line of numbers.
> And
> the
> author was complaining that this was very much a pain in the butt.
> They
> did
> not say anything about using a Bluetooth keyboard, making me think
> that
> that
> might not be an option. So, what say you?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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Question regarding adding a person to a text message conversation afterword with VoiceOver IOS 9.1

[Shai]

Hello all,
I am aware that a person can be added to a text message when initially
addressing it; however, I was wondering if there is a means by which
one can be added into a text message with VoiceOver while the
conversation is in progress? I attempted to Google this and it seems
that to perform this action one would go to the details button and
then tap on add contact; however, I can not find this option.
Thank you in advance for any responses

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Bluetooth keyboard and Apple fourth-generation TV

[Mary Otten]

For those of you who have the new AppleTV, has any of you tried connecting it 
with an apple or other Bluetooth keyboard and what have your results been? I 
saw an article in some tech blogger other today commenting on the fact that 
typing stuff on the screen is now much more difficult, because they don't have 
the grid that they used to have for use with the remote. It is apparently one 
long line of letters and one long line of numbers. And the author was 
complaining that this was very much a pain in the butt. They did not say 
anything about using a Bluetooth keyboard, making me think that that might not 
be an option. So, what say you?

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Re: What happened to airplay in control center on the iPhone?

[Richard Turner]

It sounds like it may be time to call apple accessibility and see if they can 
come up with something. I'd also try the reboot by holding the power and home 
buttons down for about 10 seconds.
I think that does something different than powering off and back on.
I hope you can get airplay back. 
Richard


> On Oct 30, 2015, at 8:05 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Well, I just powered down my iPhone and started up again. I went into control 
> center, and there is still no airplay. I have AirDrop, and then the next 
> thing in the flick order is flashlight. I would not care if flashlight went 
> away. But I really do miss airplay darn it. It is on my iPad mini running iOS 
> 9.1, just as this iPhone is running iOS 9.1.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 30, 2015, at 7:02 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi,
>> It is where it always was on my 5s, just after AirDrop in the flick order.
>> Have you try rebooting your phone?
>> That just seems really strange.
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 30, 2015, at 6:36 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Richard, your advice is exactly what I did. I was playing the music  
>>> through my phone and then went to the control center and tried to  find 
>>> airplay in order to change to my living room stereo. But I could not find 
>>> airplay. It seems to me it used to be right next to airdrop in the flick 
>>> order. But no go. Where is it in your flick order?
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Oct 30, 2015, at 6:09 PM, Richard Turner  
 wrote:
 
 
 It is still there on my 5s running 9.1.
 Is your airplay device on?
 Try starting the music, pausing it, then bringing up the control center.
 Richard
 
 
> On Oct 30, 2015, at 5:53 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I want to play an album then I just purchased on my iPhone. I went to the 
> control center and look for airplay. It used to be there on iOS 8. It is 
> not there anymore. Where did it go?
> Mary
> 
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Re: Does music purchased on iTunes store on the phone automatically go to my mac?

[chris]

Not by default. But if you check music in iTunes Preferences > store, 
anything you purchase on your phone should automatically go to your mac.


On 31/10/2015 00:16, Mary Otten wrote:

I think the answer to this question is probably know, but I thought I would ask 
anyway. I generally try to avoid buying music using my phone. But, I just 
bought some stuff using the Russian keyboard on my phone and now I'm wondering 
how I'm going to get that into my iTunes library on the Mac. I do have iTunes 
match also. And I do not have anything in my library that is not something I 
purchased or ripped. Should I suppose that the things I bought are going to 
show up on my mac? Or do I have to transfer the purchases using iTunes on the 
Mac?
Mary


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What the freak has happened to Facebook?

[Terri Stimmel]

Hello everyone,

I am so irritated, as if you have not figured that out. I have been having a 
problem with Facebook for some time now. I know I can not be the only one.

Whenever I post something, rather it be a post to my wall, or to a group I am 
in, I am unable to read the comments that are left. I am going to assume that 
this is a Facebook issue. But I could be wrong.

It is as if the comments were not even left. I updated Facebook, hoping that 
this would fix the issue. I was quite disappointed to find out that nothing had 
changed. I use my 4S to check Facebook, because right now I do not have a 
working computer. So it is very important to me that this ap works.

Is anyone else have this same issue?
If so, is there a way to fix it? I sure hope so!

Thank you to all who read my message, and may offer me help.

Terri

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Re: Don't miss this

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Hi sorry I'm having trouble with my email address.

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Re: Seeing eye GPS

[Nancy Badger]

I believe I have fixed it by reinstalling the app. Just for others info.

Nancy Badger, Ph.D
Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services
UT Chattanooga
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> Today I tried to use Seeing Eye GPS for the first time since updating to 9.2. 
> It crashed at least three times and I gave up. Is anybody else having 
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> Thanks
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Re: Apple TV 4 - NetFlix

[Brian Fischler]

Yes, you are not alone as I was banging my head up against the wall trying to 
get video description to work on Netflix last night on the new AppleTV. 
Hopefully they fix this as video description on Netflix was one of the main 
reasons I bought an Apple TV, very frustrating and very disappointing as can 
you imagine the anger if close caption did not work on Netflix. Got to love 
being the one group of people that gets screwed on a regular basis.
> On Oct 31, 2015, at 12:57 PM, Patti Johnson  wrote:
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> Oh I am glad to know that.
> I sure don't know where I heard taht, then.  Strange, but I am glad to know 
> it isn't true.
> Patti
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> On 10/31/2015 11:47 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:
>> Hi Patty,
>> 
>> That’s not true, they just need to update the new apple TV app to support 
>> the feature, which apparently they’re working on. Audio description still 
>> works fine on iOS devices and on the desktop, however.
>> 
>>> On Oct 31, 2015, at 10:18 AM, Patti Johnson >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I read somewhere that Netflix was no longer offering description.  I don't 
>>> know where I read it, or if it is true.
>>> Whatever the article was, it said that maybe Hulu would be taking that over.
>>> But that was a while back when I read this and I don't think I 
>>> misunderstood.
>>> Patti
>>> 
>>> On 10/31/2015 11:16 AM, Peter Logan wrote:
 So .. either I have lost my mind, or NetFlix needs to fix the app for the 
 Apple TV.  It seems as if audio description can’t be turned on...I can get 
 to the choices for CC and other languages but the descriptive track isn’t 
 a choice ..  I have checked out several shows which I know description is 
 on ... since it  works on my 3rd. gend...  So, am I cracy..or just not 
 looking in the right place .. and I do have the descriptions turned on in 
 the TV settings ...
  
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iPhone airplay problem solved

[Mary Otten]

Well, one of the things you have to do when you send out a message to several 
lists with a  problem is send out your solution, even though it makes you look 
really, really stupid. I figured out the problem to my disappearing airplay, 
thanks to a comment from someone on one of these lists that mentioned that her 
airplay disappeared if she did not have her Bluetooth device connected.
I connected a Bluetooth speaker I have and found an airplay came back. When I 
went into airplay, I discovered that none of my airport expresses was listed, 
which seemed strange. The reason for that was that my phone happened to have 
been connected to the other wireless network in this house. We have two. And my 
phone was on the one where the airport expresses or not. So of course, it 
didn't see them. I will be deleting that particular network from the phones 
network settings. Oh brother!
Mary


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Any new audio games coming?

['智明 鍾' via VIPhone]

Hi! All,
Anyone know that is new audio games for iOS score games will be released soon? 

Ming
Skype: chungchiming9950

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Re: Seeing eye GPS

[Tom Lange]

Hi. I haven't had any isskes with crashes, but I've noticed that it takes a 
while to get up and running. I've also noticed some really screwy results with 
the app.  The other day I was using it on my way home from work and I had it 
calculate a vehicle route, which worked fine. But the ETA information was 
wildly inaccurate. It gave me an ETA of five hours, thirty-five minutes, when 
Google Maps gave me a more realistic forty or forty-five minutes.  I don't knoj 
why that is but I'll definitely have to write to Sendero about that.  

Tom

 

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> Today I tried to use Seeing Eye GPS for the first time since updating to 9.2. 
> It crashed at least three times and I gave up. Is anybody else having 
> trouble? Any solutions yet?
> Thanks
> Nancy
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RE: What are the KNFB settings to automatically take pictures using a document stand?

[Richard Turner]

Hi Keith,
Select the Document Stand under profile and hit done.
Then, turn on batch mode.
It may take a little to get the first scan to take, try moving the page and 
then set it still.  You will hear some beeps and it will say text detected and 
take the picture.
Turn the page and it will pause a little, beep several times and repeat text 
detected and take the picture, etc.

HTH,
Richard


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Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
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Subject: What are the KNFB settings to automatically take pictures using a 
document stand?

Hi,

I can successfully get KNFB to take pictures manually,, but haven't been able 
to get auto pix with a document stan, even though I think I have all the 
settings correctly set.

Can someone please outline the correct settings so I can double check?

Running 9.1 on an iPhone 6 with latest KNFB.

Thanks in advance, Keith 

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Re: Don't miss this

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Hello,
Is this spam?

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Re: Text messages not coming through

[chris]

While I have the beta on my iPad Mini 2, I am not able to reproduce the 
problem since it's on a tablet not a phone.


On 31/10/2015 16:44, Jennie Facer wrote:

Hi all,

My phone isn't alerting me that I am getting a text message. I installed the 
new beta last night. Is there a way I can fix this? I restarted my phone to no 
avail. My sound volume is up and my text tone is there.
Any ideas?

Jenn and Kumi



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iPad Pro

[chris]

Some information on the upcoming iPad Pro.

macdailynews.com
Apple’s iPad Pro release date: November 11th – MacDailyNews
Oct 30, 2015 - 05:15 PM EDT — AAPL: 119.50 (-1.03, -0.85%) | NASDAQ: 
5053.75 (-20.53, -0.4%)

Saturday, October 31, 2015 · 11:06 am · 8 Comments
“Apple plans to start selling the 12.9-inch iPad Pro on Wednesday, 
November 11th via both its physical retail and online stores, according 
to multiple sources,” Mark Gurman reports for 9to5Mac.
The new iPad Pro features a 12.9-inch Retina display with 5.6 million 
pixels and the groundbreaking performance of the new 64-bit A9X chip 
which rivals most portable PCs.
iPad Pro starts at $799 for the 32GB with Wi-Fi model and $1079 for the 
Wi-Fi + Cellular 128GB model, comes in three metallic finishes: silver, 
gold and space gray.

Apple's all-new iPad Pro and Apple Pencil
Apple’s all-new iPad Pro and Apple Pencil
Gurman reports, “The iPad Pro’s marquee accessories, the Apple Pencil 
and Smart Keyboard, will also become available for purchase on November 
11th.”
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anyone else having trouble with using ApplePay on the apple store app?

[Amy Ruel]

Subject line says it all. I have had 4 support calls with Apple about this
to no avail. Have checked and my settings and account information are all
correct in iTunes and Wallet and ApplePay app. I have been able to
successfully pay with ApplePay in the Apple store, can purchase using "other
payment options" within the Apple store app, and have checked online to make
sure that my Apple ID is correct. I have re-set network settings twice,
verified and re-entered my billing address multiple times, and have tried to
order using cellular data. I have deleted and re-installed the Apple store
app.

When I attempt to purchase using touch id, I get "error image", which points
to the billing address. This has also been verified by a sighted person. The
only thing I note is that my ship to name is incorrect, though it is correct
in my Wallet app.

Any additional suggestions?

Thanks.

Amy

 

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Re: Drop bluetooth kitchen scale

[Nancy Badger]

I would like it as well please

Nancy Badger, Ph.D
Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services
UT Chattanooga
Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.

> On Oct 30, 2015, at 11:21 PM, Gary Petraccaro  wrote:
> 
> I would also like the brand/model information on the scale since my venerable 
> TRS has died and needs replacement.  Thanks.
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Sieghard Weitzel
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2015 9:22 AM
> Subject: RE: Drop bluetooth kitchen scale
> 
> Hi Christina,
>  
> You are wondering if the weight is read out on the iDevice and I am sure it 
> would be if the app is accessible. I read in the description “there is no 
> need to touch your iPad with dirty fingers”. This of course prompted me to 
> read more since it said “iPad” and not “iPhone”. I then found the following:
>  
> Works with iPad mini, iPad mini 2, iPad mini 3, iPad 3rd generation, iPad 4th 
> generation, iPad Air and iPad Air 2. Requires iOS 8.
> 
>  
> 
> So, it appears the app is iPad only and since there is no mention of the 
> iPhone I assume this will not work with an iPhone.
> 
>  
> Now, as for talking kitchen scales, I have one I bought a very long time ago 
> from Maxiaids. I think I have had this thing for 15 or 18 years and it is 
> accurate and it just works and works and works. Of course I don’t know if it 
> is still available, but I’ll get my wife to see what it says on the scale as 
> far as a brand/model and write you directly. It is accurate to around 5 grams 
> or around 0.2 ounces which for cooking and baking is plenty good enough and 
> while I love gadgets, I think there is something to be said for some 
> stand-alone devices where I push a single button and I don’t have to pull out 
> my iPhone, load an app and so on. The scale I have continuously reads out the 
> measurement as you add stuff to the bowl and while it probably can’t do what 
> this Drop scale can do, you can switch it to either metric or imperial 
> measurements and the nice thing is that if you want to measure something 
> where the included plastic bowl is not big enough, you can just take it off 
> and replace it with any plate or bowl you want. As long as you turn on the 
> scale after you put the bowl you are using on the scale it will zero itself 
> with whatever you put on it and then measure from there.
>  
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Christina C.
> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 1:01 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Drop bluetooth kitchen scale
>  
> Hello has anyone tried this. Is it accessible? Mainly I was wondering if the 
> weight is read out on the iDevice by voiceOver. I’d love to have a talking 
> kitchen scale but I have not purchased one. I get frustrated when I spend my 
> money on a talking gadget that is poorly made and often inaccurate. I have 
> used talking scales and thermometers that are obviously way off and giving 
> incorrect readings. This one has me curious since it’s a possible out of the 
> box solution. :)
>  
> https://www.getdrop.com
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Re: Don't miss this

[Rajmund]

Hello,
No worries. I think I know  what it is. If you open the link, your email will 
start sending these. So, I'm not mad, but would encourage people not to click 
the link. 

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Saturday, October 31, 2015 6:22 pm
Subject: Re: Don't miss this

>
>
> Hi sorry I'm having trouble with my email address.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Oct 31, 2015, at 2:08 PM, Rajmund  wrote:
> > 
> > Hello,
> > Is this spam?
> > 
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> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Date: Saturday, October 31, 2015 4:07 pm
> > Subject: Don't miss this
> > 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Not able to display full message.
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RE: iPhone airplay problem solved

[Richard Turner]

Mary,
You are not alone with that kind of experience.
At my office we have a guest network and an agency network.  One day I couldn't 
access any of my work files and wasted a bunch of time trying to trouble shoot 
the issues until I touched in the status bar and noticed I was connected to the 
guest network.
Changed networks and all was well.
Yes, I deleted the guest network from my work iPhone.

Richard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 11:50 AM
To: mac4thebl...@freelists.org; MacVisionaries 'Chris Blouch' via 
; macvoiceo...@freelists.org; VIPhone 
'ChalmersAS' via 
Subject: iPhone airplay problem solved

Well, one of the things you have to do when you send out a message to several 
lists with a  problem is send out your solution, even though it makes you look 
really, really stupid. I figured out the problem to my disappearing airplay, 
thanks to a comment from someone on one of these lists that mentioned that her 
airplay disappeared if she did not have her Bluetooth device connected.
I connected a Bluetooth speaker I have and found an airplay came back. When I 
went into airplay, I discovered that none of my airport expresses was listed, 
which seemed strange. The reason for that was that my phone happened to have 
been connected to the other wireless network in this house. We have two. And my 
phone was on the one where the airport expresses or not. So of course, it 
didn't see them. I will be deleting that particular network from the phones 
network settings. Oh brother!
Mary


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RE: Seeing eye GPS

[Amy Ruel]

Hi,
I used it with my iPhone 6s without difficulty on Thursday. I did have crashes 
about 2 weeks ago but deleting and installing the app fixed it.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Brett
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 8:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeing eye GPS

Hi, 

I used it yesterday on my iPhone 6 without any issues. I mention the iPhone 
version in case it makes a difference. 

Cheers, Brett. 


Sent from Brett's iPhone

> On Oct 31, 2015, at 10:55 AM, Nancy Badger  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> Today I tried to use Seeing Eye GPS for the first time since updating to 9.2. 
> It crashed at least three times and I gave up. Is anybody else having 
> trouble? Any solutions yet?
> Thanks
> Nancy
> 
> Nancy Badger, Ph.D
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Re: Accessible pedometer for use with IPhone 6

[Sherrie]

I can't remember exactly how I got past this screen. I just tapped until it 
had something and went on.  I was just interested in the number of steps. 
Today I went into settings and had no trouble at all entering height, 
weight, step length, daily goal, etc. What I had originally entered was that 
I was a 5'11" male who weighed 0 pounds! . LOL.
Maybe you could get assistance getting past the first screen as it is well 
worth it since the rest of the app is totally VO friendly.

Sherrie



-Original Message- 
From: Brett

Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 8:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Accessable pedometer for use with Iphone 6

Hi,

I am unable to set the hight and waight values necessary to estimate your 
step length. Without entering these values you cannot continue. Any tips on 
how to add these values.


Cheers,
Brett.


Sent from Brett's iPhone


On Oct 31, 2015, at 6:54 AM, Sherrie  wrote:

I really love this one because it shows the number of steps next to the 
icon without having to open the app.  If it seems too low I just open it 
and close it immediately and the number gets updated.

Stepz - Pedometer & Step Counter for Tracking Steps
By Michael Szumielewski
View More by This Developer

Open iTunes to buy and download apps.

Description
Stepz is a convenient step counter app that leverages the clever Apple 
Motion Coprocessor (M7/M8/M9) which collects your motion data 
automatically in the
background while saving battery life. This simple pedometer app has been 
specifically developed for the iPhone 5s, iPhone 6, iPhone 6 Plus, iPhone 
6s and

iPhone 6s Plus.

Do you move enough throughout the day? Learn more about your daily 
activity and get fit by reaching your step goal!


*** Featured by Apple on the App Store Home Page under Best New Apps in 22 
countries (April, 2015) ***


=== FEATURES ===

- Automatically records your steps by using the Apple Motion Coprocessor
- Very accurate
- Runs in the background
- Very low battery drain
- No GPS needed
- Daily & hourly step values
- Distance calculation
- Set your daily steps goal, or let Stepz set it for you
- App icon badge shows your step count
- Daily, weekly, monthly and yearly step charts
- Import your steps & floors climbed from the Apple Health app
- Export your steps to a CSV file
- Import your steps from a CSV file
- Calculates your burned calories
- Shows floors climbed (iPhone 6 & iPhone 6 Plus only)
- Easy sharing of a detailed screenshot
- Apple Watch app with clever data syncing
- iOS Today Widget for Notification Center
- Achievements
- 3D Touch Quick Actions
- Total control over your personal data (all data is stored securely on 
your device only, no network syncing)


=== USER REVIEWS ===

"I love this app so much that I actually recommend it to all of my 
patients. My husband and I do contests every day to see who beat who... 
The best part

about this app is that it is making us aware of the need to be active."
- Mrs Bonjiovi (Mar 10, 2015)

"Use this every day. There are a few apps I use every day and this is one 
of them. I mean it - every day. Apples iOS is enhanced by steps into 
useable

information that makes walking your daily fitness routine."
- zflyfish (Feb 18, 2015)

"Happy with this app! It is simple and intuitive. It is helping me stay 
motivated to walk more. I enjoy trying to top yesterday's steps."

- Gumbo 70427 (Mar 7, 2015)

"Clean, easy, and free! No logins, no BS - does it's job and does it well. 
Good feature set as well, including export."

- JG__ (Feb 21, 2015)

"Better than the preinstalled Health App! Love this app due to its 
capability to display step totals from each individual day over the last 
seven days
on its dashboard. Tons better than Preinstalled Health App's dashboard and 
with more color. Also it has a history option that allows you to look at 
the
sum of steps for each individual day from day one (your iPhone6's purchase 
date)."

- RoadKingRufus (Mar 5, 2015)

=== NOTE ===

*** This app requires a device which features the Apple Motion 
Coprocessor. It will not work on other devices. Compatible devices:

- iPhone 5s
- iPhone 6
- iPhone 6 Plus
- iPhone 6s
- iPhone 6s Plus
***...More
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Stepz - Pedometer & Step Counter for Tracking Steps Support

What's New in Version 1.8
Thank you for using Stepz! This update includes iOS 9 optimizations and 
general improvements:


- New: 3D Touch Quick Actions for users with a brand new iPhone 6s or 
iPhone 6s Plus.


- Improved: Apple Watch app converted to watchOS 2, the app should run 
much smoother now.


As always, please let us know what you think about the new version by 
writing a review at the App Store or contacting us directly via the app. 
Thanks!

:)

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Re: What the freak has happened to Facebook?

[Hope Paulos]

I am not experiencing your issue. Try uninstalling and reinstalling the app.

Hope Paulos

> On Oct 31, 2015, at 9:33 AM, Laury-Johnson, Shawnese (LARA) 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yes I am experiencing the same problem. I can tell that there are comments 
> but I am not able to read them. I too would like this to be fixed but have no 
> idea how to accomplish it
> Thank you
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 31, 2015, at 8:18 AM, Terri Stimmel  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello everyone,
>> 
>> I am so irritated, as if you have not figured that out. I have been having a 
>> problem with Facebook for some time now. I know I can not be the only one.
>> 
>> Whenever I post something, rather it be a post to my wall, or to a group I 
>> am in, I am unable to read the comments that are left. I am going to assume 
>> that this is a Facebook issue. But I could be wrong.
>> 
>> It is as if the comments were not even left. I updated Facebook, hoping that 
>> this would fix the issue. I was quite disappointed to find out that nothing 
>> had changed. I use my 4S to check Facebook, because right now I do not have 
>> a working computer. So it is very important to me that this ap works.
>> 
>> Is anyone else have this same issue?
>> If so, is there a way to fix it? I sure hope so!
>> 
>> Thank you to all who read my message, and may offer me help.
>> 
>> Terri
>> 
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RE: Typing on a 6S

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Rob,

For the $400 I was talking iPhone 6S 128 Gb on 2-year contract. Unlocked from 
Apple it is $850 US.
According to Google just now 619 british pounds converts to 956.85 US Dollars, 
so yes, it is less expensive to buy it unlocked in the US.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 12:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Typing on a 6S

Only $400?...   sounds like highway robbery over here, £619 and still given £ 
stronger than $ just now, though not checked latest 
exchange rate, but feel like $800 or so.

I'm talking off-the-shelf, unlocked and not on contract.


- Original Message - 
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 3:32 PM
Subject: RE: Typing on a 6S


Alan,



Ultimately it’s entirely your decision whether you want to spend $400 for a new 
iPhone 6S 128 Gb. Personally with Apple Music and 
being able to easily have all your music in the cloud I don’t think a 128 Gb 
iPhone is really all that necessary until you take 
thousands and thousands of pictures or if you plan to do major 4K video 
recording. But either way, the 6S is a great phone and the 
main difference to a 5S which is what I upgraded from is the fact that it is of 
course bigger, the processor is noticeably faster, 
touch Id is virtually instant and of course there are differences like having 
the power/sleep button on the side instead of the top 
and the rounded edges in back, also the camera sticks out just a tiny bit. I 
have done a few KNFB Reader scans and so far have not 
found much of a real-world diffierence in OCR quality between the 5S and 6S 
even though it has a better camera. I think there is a 
point after which higher megapixels just don’t make a difference for simple OCR 
and of course things like faster shudderspeeds and 
so on are irrelevant.





Regards,

Sieghard



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Paganelli
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 7:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Typing on a 6S



Ok, I think I understand now.  You are not talking about an external keyboard 
that slides out the side of the iPhone.  It sounded to 
me like that may have been what people were talking about in which case I would 
of said, I think I'll just hang on to my 5s instead. 
On the other hand, let's talk bang for the buck.  My 2 year agreement is up 
with AT and I'm elegible for a new iPhone.  My 
question is a simple one.  Is there that much difference between the 5s and 6s 
or would I just be better off holding off for another 
year and wait for the iPhone 7?  What sayith all of you?



Alan



Sent from my iPad Air


On Oct 29, 2015, at 12:52 PM, Mary Otten  > wrote:

A built-in keyboard? No. It has the same keyboard that the fives had. The 6s is 
larger, so the spacing is a little bit larger. And 
it is more responsive, I suppose because it has a faster processor. I have not 
noticed any of the issues that others are talking 
about. I do have an old four s. And when I go to use that, it seems positively 
dinosaur like.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 29, 2015, at 12:49 PM, Alan Paganelli  > wrote:

So, does that mean the 6S has a built in QWERTY keyboard?







Alan



Sent from my iPhone 5s


On Oct 29, 2015, at 9:09 AM, Stuart Deadman  > wrote:

Hi, I have only had my 6s a week and have also noticed how hard it is to use 
the stock IOs 9 keyboard. I have noticed that when I 
turn off 3d Touch, it helps
Regards
Stuart Deadman

-Original Message-
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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brian Fischler
Sent: 28 October 2015 23:25
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Typing on a 6S

Hi I to have noticed the 6S is very sensitive to touch as at times I do not 
even lift my finger while typing and characters get 
entered also I have noticed that it is tough at times to type a 1 and Q and P 
as it almost feels like those characters are not fully 
on the screen. It is weird.



On Oct 28, 2015, at 2:44 PM, Wayne Merritt  > wrote:



The 6S appears to be much more sensitive to touch than earlier models.

This took me a while to get used to.



Wayne



On 10/28/15, Joe Orozco  > wrote:

I've only had the phone for a couple days and have admittedly only

done extensive typing in the Messages app. I've searched for things

on other apps and perhaps did not notice it as much because the

typing is quick, but I'll experiment more. I realized it would take

some getting used to what with the different size of the phone, but

Re: What the freak has happened to Facebook?

[Feliciano Godoy]

Hi,
I am also having this problem with the latest Facebook app on mmmy iPhone 6s 
with iOS 9.1 When I flick to navigate, comments do not always show, but f I 
explore by dragging my finger, comments ill be read out. A work around may be 
to use Safari or your choice of browser to access Facebook. This would be a 
good time to make that website as a shortcut on your home screen.
Regards,
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> 
> I am so irritated, as if you have not figured that out. I have been having a 
> problem with Facebook for some time now. I know I can not be the only one.
> 
> Whenever I post something, rather it be a post to my wall, or to a group I am 
> in, I am unable to read the comments that are left. I am going to assume that 
> this is a Facebook issue. But I could be wrong.
> 
> It is as if the comments were not even left. I updated Facebook, hoping that 
> this would fix the issue. I was quite disappointed to find out that nothing 
> had changed. I use my 4S to check Facebook, because right now I do not have a 
> working computer. So it is very important to me that this ap works.
> 
> Is anyone else have this same issue?
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Re: What the freak has happened to Facebook?

[Robert Cole]

Try touching the bottom of the screen and swipe left 


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 31, 2015, at 8:33 AM, Laury-Johnson, Shawnese (LARA) 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yes I am experiencing the same problem. I can tell that there are comments 
> but I am not able to read them. I too would like this to be fixed but have no 
> idea how to accomplish it
> Thank you
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> 
>> Hello everyone,
>> 
>> I am so irritated, as if you have not figured that out. I have been having a 
>> problem with Facebook for some time now. I know I can not be the only one.
>> 
>> Whenever I post something, rather it be a post to my wall, or to a group I 
>> am in, I am unable to read the comments that are left. I am going to assume 
>> that this is a Facebook issue. But I could be wrong.
>> 
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>> this would fix the issue. I was quite disappointed to find out that nothing 
>> had changed. I use my 4S to check Facebook, because right now I do not have 
>> a working computer. So it is very important to me that this ap works.
>> 
>> Is anyone else have this same issue?
>> If so, is there a way to fix it? I sure hope so!
>> 
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>> 
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RE: Problems finding airplay

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Mary,

Does your friend have any Airplay capable devices? Of course I assume he does 
if he is looking for it, but I think it may not show up if he doesn't. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 6:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Problems finding airplay

I earlier send a message about problems finding airplay in the control center. 
I just left on my iPad mini, also running iOS 9.1, and there it is. Right after 
AirDrop. I sent a friend of mine the same note, and he reports he does not see 
airplay in his control center running an iPhone 5s. I am using an iPhone 6s. 
Yet I do see your play on my iPad mini also running iOS 9.1. What the heck is 
going on?
Mary


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Re: What the freak has happened to Facebook?

[englishrider91]

Ah, yes. I'd forgoten about that. That can be tricky to keep up with if there 
are a lot of people commenting.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Oct 31, 2015, at 7:52 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> I just experienced a bit of this when someone replied to one of my Facebook 
> comments. When I double tapped on the initial post with the latest Facebook 
> version on my iPhone 6, her reply was shown indented below mine but VoiceOver 
> didn't read this indented comment. I had to double tap on the screen with the 
> indented comment and a new screen opened where VoiceOver could read my 
> comment and the indented reply. You might try that. 
> 
> Alan Lemly 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 31, 2015, at 9:31 AM, Feliciano Godoy  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> I am also having this problem with the latest Facebook app on mmmy iPhone 6s 
>> with iOS 9.1 When I flick to navigate, comments do not always show, but f I 
>> explore by dragging my finger, comments ill be read out. A work around may 
>> be to use Safari or your choice of browser to access Facebook. This would be 
>> a good time to make that website as a shortcut on your home screen.
>> Regards,
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>>> On Oct 31, 2015, at 5:18 AM, Terri Stimmel  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello everyone,
>>> 
>>> I am so irritated, as if you have not figured that out. I have been having 
>>> a problem with Facebook for some time now. I know I can not be the only one.
>>> 
>>> Whenever I post something, rather it be a post to my wall, or to a group I 
>>> am in, I am unable to read the comments that are left. I am going to assume 
>>> that this is a Facebook issue. But I could be wrong.
>>> 
>>> It is as if the comments were not even left. I updated Facebook, hoping 
>>> that this would fix the issue. I was quite disappointed to find out that 
>>> nothing had changed. I use my 4S to check Facebook, because right now I do 
>>> not have a working computer. So it is very important to me that this ap 
>>> works.
>>> 
>>> Is anyone else have this same issue?
>>> If so, is there a way to fix it? I sure hope so!
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> Terri
>>> 
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Re: Bluetooth keyboard bug, are you also experiencing this?

[Daniel Miller]

Try shift+enter. I haven’t tried this personally, but that should work. Try it 
with all of the modifier keys one at a time if shift doesn’t work.

> On Oct 31, 2015, at 9:18 AM, Lynn White  wrote:
> 
> Hi Daniel,
> 
> Then how do you make a new line?  Thanks, by the way, for the helpful 
> information.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 30, 2015, at 7:04 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
>> 
>> When in messages, pressing enter to send the message is the intended 
>> function. In mail, you can press command+shift+D to send the message.
>> 
>>> On Oct 30, 2015, at 5:55 PM, Lynn White  wrote:
>>> 
>>> When I am in a text message and hit the enter key, instead of getting a new 
>>> line, my message gets sent.
>>> 
>>> However, in my emails, I do get a desired new line.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Oct 29, 2015, at 3:03 PM, Feliciano Godoy  
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 I am using a Logitech Bluetooth ultrathin keyboard with my iPhone 6s using 
 iOS 9.1. When I share a webpage using the Safari browser to Twitter or 
 Facebook, I am not able to input text  in the text field  using my 
 Bluetooth keyboard with voiceover. If I have voice over off however, I can 
 input text using the Bluetooth keyboard. I am not having any problems and 
 putting text another text fields were applications other than this 
 particular instance. I would like to know if you are also experiencing 
 this problem. I have already reported this to Apple, but would like to 
 know your feedback. Thank you,
 
 
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Re: Apple TV 4 - NetFlix

[Patti Johnson]

I read somewhere that Netflix was no longer offering description.  I 
don't know where I read it, or if it is true.

Whatever the article was, it said that maybe Hulu would be taking that over.
But that was a while back when I read this and I don't think I 
misunderstood.

Patti

On 10/31/2015 11:16 AM, Peter Logan wrote:
So .. either I have lost my mind, or NetFlix needs to fix the app for 
the Apple TV.  It seems as if audio description can’t be turned on...I 
can get to the choices for CC and other languages but the descriptive 
track isn’t a choice .. I have checked out several shows which I know 
description is on ... since it  works on my 3rd. gend...  So, am I 
cracy..or just not looking in the right place .. and I do have the 
descriptions turned on in the TV settings ...

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Re: Bluetooth keyboard bug, are you also experiencing this?

[Jennie Facer]

It is option plus return on a keyboard. I don't about Braille displays. 

Jenn and Kumi

> On Oct 31, 2015, at 8:56 AM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
> 
> Try shift+enter. I haven’t tried this personally, but that should work. Try 
> it with all of the modifier keys one at a time if shift doesn’t work.
> 
>> On Oct 31, 2015, at 9:18 AM, Lynn White  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Daniel,
>> 
>> Then how do you make a new line?  Thanks, by the way, for the helpful 
>> information.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 30, 2015, at 7:04 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
>>> 
>>> When in messages, pressing enter to send the message is the intended 
>>> function. In mail, you can press command+shift+D to send the message.
>>> 
 On Oct 30, 2015, at 5:55 PM, Lynn White  wrote:
 
 When I am in a text message and hit the enter key, instead of getting a 
 new line, my message gets sent.
 
 However, in my emails, I do get a desired new line.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Oct 29, 2015, at 3:03 PM, Feliciano Godoy  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I am using a Logitech Bluetooth ultrathin keyboard with my iPhone 6s 
> using iOS 9.1. When I share a webpage using the Safari browser to Twitter 
> or Facebook, I am not able to input text  in the text field  using my 
> Bluetooth keyboard with voiceover. If I have voice over off however, I 
> can input text using the Bluetooth keyboard. I am not having any problems 
> and putting text another text fields were applications other than this 
> particular instance. I would like to know if you are also experiencing 
> this problem. I have already reported this to Apple, but would like to 
> know your feedback. Thank you,
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Feliciano
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Re: Apple TV 4 - NetFlix

[Peter Logan]

I just double checked my 3rd. gen and under the audio tab there still is the 
choice for “English  Description” and that works ...

On the 4th. gen Apple TV the choice isn’t there ...

Argh   So, they are still offering it ...  just not on the new app ...  
Will have to fire off an e-mail to them ...

Thanks ...


From: Patti Johnson 
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 11:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Apple TV 4 - NetFlix

I read somewhere that Netflix was no longer offering description.  I don't know 
where I read it, or if it is true.
Whatever the article was, it said that maybe Hulu would be taking that over.
But that was a while back when I read this and I don't think I misunderstood.
Patti

On 10/31/2015 11:16 AM, Peter Logan wrote:

  So .. either I have lost my mind, or NetFlix needs to fix the app for the 
Apple TV.  It seems as if audio description can’t be turned on...I can get to 
the choices for CC and other languages but the descriptive track isn’t a choice 
..  I have checked out several shows which I know description is on ... since 
it  works on my 3rd. gend...  So, am I cracy..or just not looking in the right 
place .. and I do have the descriptions turned on in the TV settings ...

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RE: How To Backup Your Third-Party VoiceOver Accessible iOS 9.x Apps

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

Thanks very much for this, Mark.

So, if I understand your process, you suggest to synck all working apps on the 
iPhone to the PC in iTunes (to insure an accurate picture of currently working 
apps is reflected in iTunes on the PC), then disconnect the iPhone, then update 
apps from the PC using iTunes. 

I take it to mean that the apps will install on the PC from the app store by 
wi-fi, and be waiting there in case needed for future salvage of an 
inaccessible app downloaded directly to the iPhone.

Is this right? I just want to clarify to make doubly sure. Is this newer 
problem because iTunes no longer syncks the actual app, but only a pointer to 
the app in the app store, like happens with an iCloud backup?

Keith
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M. Taylor
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 9:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: How To Backup Your Third-Party VoiceOver Accessible iOS 9.x Apps

Hello All,

I am cross-posting this to both V iPhone and Mac Visionaries.

NOTE 1:
This document assume that you do not use the automatic app update feature on
your iOS device.

NOTE 2:
The following applies to those who use an iOS device in conjunction with
iTunes on a computer, only.

As we have all experienced, there are times when updates to an app can break
VoiceOver accessibility.

In iOS 8.x and earlier, assuming that one had previously synchronized with
iTunes on a computer, if an update broke accessibility for a particular app,
one could simply delete the newly updated copy of the app from the iOS
device and then, connect the device to the computer and install the older
version of the app, back to the iOS device.

This was possible because in iOS 8.x and earlier, assuming app WiFi syncing
was not enabled, the synchronization process included copying any newly
downloaded app from the iOS device into the iTunes Library located on the
computer.  

As of iOS 9.x, the synchronization process between the iOS device and the
computer, no longer includes copying apps from the device to the computer.  

For those of us who rely on VoiceOver accessibility, this new process means
that should an updated app break VoiceOver access, we can no longer restore
an earlier version of the app using the same time-tested method as we have
all come to enjoy.

Before I continue, I urge all of you to please contact Apple and express how
significant this change in the synchronization process affects those of us
who are blind or low vision.

The good news is that there is a simple workaround, so to speak, available
to those of us who want to insure that we always have an accessible copy of
an app.  

Just update the app in iTunes before connecting the iOS device.  Updating
apps, in iTunes on the computer, actually downloads a full copy of the app
in the .IPA format which, just as always, can be copied to any authorized
iOS compatible device.  

Confused?  Don't be; the following example should help clarify the process:

[BEGIN EXAMPLE]
DAY ONE:

1.
You're very happy with all of your currently installed apps.  Your favorite
app is the Candle Shore BLOG.com app and you don't want to lose VoiceOver
accessibility to it, should it be updated.

2.
You want to make certain that you have a full copy of this accessible
version of the app on your computer, just in case any future updates break
its accessibility.

3.
On your computer, you open iTunes and navigate to the Apps area.  You locate
the Candle Shore BLOG.com app and, Click the Update button.  This will
update a full copy of the app on your computer to the same version that is
currently on your iOS device.  Remember, you will only do this if you like
the current version that is on your iOS device.  Because you like to plan
for worse case scenarios, you decide to perform such an update for all of
your mission-critical apps like those having to do with banking, GPS
navigation, etc.

DAY TWO:

1.
Upon checking the App Store, on your iOS device, you discover that there is
an update to the Candle Shore BLOG.com app.  

2.
You update the app and discover, to your dismay, that VoiceOver
accessibility has been broken.

3.
You immediately delete the app from your iOS device.

4.
Now, you connect the iOS device to your computer and, from within iTunes,
you install the older, accessible, copy of the app, back to the iOS device,
just as you would have done in iOS 8.x.
[END EXAMPLE]

The bottom line is that if you are currently running iOS 9.x or later, you
should manually update any important apps, on your computer, now, before any
future updates break them.

Mark

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MODERATOR NOTE: RE: Text messages not coming through

[M. Taylor]

Jennie and Chris, et al:

This is not a Beta testing community.  Please do not post beta software 
questions or discuss beta software, on-list.  

Thank you,

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chris
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 11:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Text messages not coming through

While I have the beta on my iPad Mini 2, I am not able to reproduce the problem 
since it's on a tablet not a phone.

On 31/10/2015 16:44, Jennie Facer wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> My phone isn't alerting me that I am getting a text message. I installed the 
> new beta last night. Is there a way I can fix this? I restarted my phone to 
> no avail. My sound volume is up and my text tone is there.
> Any ideas?
>
> Jenn and Kumi
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RE: How To Backup Your Third-Party VoiceOver Accessible iOS 9.x Apps

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

OK, but if I buy a new app today from the app store via my phone, how do I get 
that app onto my PC in the apps area  within iTunes so I can update it?

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Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 2:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How To Backup Your Third-Party VoiceOver Accessible iOS 9.x Apps

Keith,

In a nutshell:

1.
Do not use iTunes automatic WiFi syncing, anymore, on any of your devices or 
from within iTunes.

2.
It is no longer possible to sync apps from your phone to your computer but only 
from your computer to your phone.

3.
If you like the current accessibility of a third-party app, currently installed 
on your phone, then, without connecting the phone to the computer, go into 
iTunes, on your computer, and update the app, manually.

4.
Once done, do not update the app on your computer, again, unless you are 
certain that it is VoiceOver accessible.

Mark

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Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 12:03 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com'
Subject: RE: How To Backup Your Third-Party VoiceOver Accessible iOS 9.x Apps

Thanks very much for this, Mark.

So, if I understand your process, you suggest to synck all working apps on the 
iPhone to the PC in iTunes (to insure an accurate picture of currently working 
apps is reflected in iTunes on the PC), then disconnect the iPhone, then update 
apps from the PC using iTunes. 

I take it to mean that the apps will install on the PC from the app store by 
wi-fi, and be waiting there in case needed for future salvage of an 
inaccessible app downloaded directly to the iPhone.

Is this right? I just want to clarify to make doubly sure. Is this newer 
problem because iTunes no longer syncks the actual app, but only a pointer to 
the app in the app store, like happens with an iCloud backup?

Keith
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
M. Taylor
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 9:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: How To Backup Your Third-Party VoiceOver Accessible iOS 9.x Apps

Hello All,

I am cross-posting this to both V iPhone and Mac Visionaries.

NOTE 1:
This document assume that you do not use the automatic app update feature on 
your iOS device.

NOTE 2:
The following applies to those who use an iOS device in conjunction with iTunes 
on a computer, only.

As we have all experienced, there are times when updates to an app can break 
VoiceOver accessibility.

In iOS 8.x and earlier, assuming that one had previously synchronized with 
iTunes on a computer, if an update broke accessibility for a particular app, 
one could simply delete the newly updated copy of the app from the iOS device 
and then, connect the device to the computer and install the older version of 
the app, back to the iOS device.

This was possible because in iOS 8.x and earlier, assuming app WiFi syncing was 
not enabled, the synchronization process included copying any newly downloaded 
app from the iOS device into the iTunes Library located on the computer.  

As of iOS 9.x, the synchronization process between the iOS device and the 
computer, no longer includes copying apps from the device to the computer.  

For those of us who rely on VoiceOver accessibility, this new process means 
that should an updated app break VoiceOver access, we can no longer restore an 
earlier version of the app using the same time-tested method as we have all 
come to enjoy.

Before I continue, I urge all of you to please contact Apple and express how 
significant this change in the synchronization process affects those of us who 
are blind or low vision.

The good news is that there is a simple workaround, so to speak, available to 
those of us who want to insure that we always have an accessible copy of an 
app.  

Just update the app in iTunes before connecting the iOS device.  Updating apps, 
in iTunes on the computer, actually downloads a full copy of the app in the 
.IPA format which, just as always, can be copied to any authorized iOS 
compatible device.  

Confused?  Don't be; the following example should help clarify the process:

[BEGIN EXAMPLE]
DAY ONE:

1.
You're very happy with all of your currently installed apps.  Your favorite app 
is the Candle Shore BLOG.com app and you don't want to lose VoiceOver 
accessibility to it, should it be updated.

2.
You want to make certain that you have a full copy of this accessible version 
of the app on your computer, just in case any future updates break its 
accessibility.

3.
On your computer, you open iTunes and navigate to the Apps area.  You locate 
the Candle Shore BLOG.com app and, Click the Update button.  This will update a 
full copy of the app on your computer to the same version that is currently on 
your iOS device.  

how to program apps?

[Joe Quinn]

Sorry for the crossposting, but I'm asking about both. What's the best way for 
someone to learn how to program with apple's "swift" language? Is it easy to 
learn? is Xcode accessible/easy to figure out? What about if you don't pay for 
another year of the developer progoam? Would your app still remain in the app 
store? what's better/easier to program for, mac, or iphone? if it's for mac, 
respond on the mac list, iphone, the iphone list please. or just write to me 
privately keeping the subject intact so threads are organized correctly 
whichever you prefeer! Thanks for helping me on this!

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RE: How To Backup Your Third-Party VoiceOver Accessible iOS 9.x Apps

[M. Taylor]

Hello Alan,

Yes, transferring apps from your computer to your iOS device is the same as it 
has always been.  The only difference in the new paradigm is that apps on iOS 
devices are no longer automatically transfered to the computer.

Mark

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 9:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How To Backup Your Third-Party VoiceOver Accessible iOS 9.x Apps

Mark,

Okay. It sounds like getting apps on your computer is a bit fuzzy with iOS 9.x 
and iTunes 12.x. Not that many get apps this way, but with older versions of 
iTunes, I could use it to initially download an app and those would be 
transferred to my iPhone when I synced it to iTunes. Is this still possible 
with iTunes 12.x and iOS 9.x?

I know everyone is shifting their focus to having everything on the cloud but 
I'm still a bit of a dinosaur and like having my stuff on my local computer 
where I'm in charge of it.

Alan Lemly

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M. Taylor
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 12:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How To Backup Your Third-Party VoiceOver Accessible iOS 9.x Apps

Hello Alan,

In order to sync an iOS 9.x device to your computer, you must be running iTunes 
12.x on your Desktop.

If you download a new app on your iOS device that is currently not listed in 
your computer's iTunes Library, the name of the file and, perhaps even a full 
version of the file may be copied into your computer's iTunes Library.

If you want to make certain that you have a full copy stored in your computer's 
iTunes Library, then, after detaching the iOS device, simply locate the file in 
your computer's iTunes Library, and attempt to update it, manually.  If the 
Update button is dimmed out, then you have a full copy of the file on your 
computer.

Mark

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Alan Lemly
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 9:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How To Backup Your Third-Party VoiceOver Accessible iOS 9.x Apps

Mark,

Thanks for posting this but I have a couple of questions to make sure I 
understand how this works with iOS 9.x.

I currently have iTunes 11.4 set to transfer purchases and whenever I back up 
my iPhone to my computer, iTunes prompts me if I want to back up any apps on 
the iPhone which aren't on the computer. Are you saying this will no longer 
occur with iOS 9.x? I assume so, since you say we must select the app in iTunes 
and ask it to be updated there to get later versions placed on the computer.

So my final question is when I get a brand new app with my iPhone as opposed to 
updating an existing app, how do I get this new app transferred to my computer 
with iTunes and iOS 9.x? I assume since the app is only on the phone as it has 
just been obtained, it will not be listed in the apps section of iTunes in 
order to be updated.

Thanks for helping with this.

Alan Lemly

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M. Taylor
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 9:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: How To Backup Your Third-Party VoiceOver Accessible iOS 9.x Apps

Hello All,

I am cross-posting this to both V iPhone and Mac Visionaries.

NOTE 1:
This document assume that you do not use the automatic app update feature on 
your iOS device.

NOTE 2:
The following applies to those who use an iOS device in conjunction with iTunes 
on a computer, only.

As we have all experienced, there are times when updates to an app can break 
VoiceOver accessibility.

In iOS 8.x and earlier, assuming that one had previously synchronized with 
iTunes on a computer, if an update broke accessibility for a particular app, 
one could simply delete the newly updated copy of the app from the iOS device 
and then, connect the device to the computer and install the older version of 
the app, back to the iOS device.

This was possible because in iOS 8.x and earlier, assuming app WiFi syncing was 
not enabled, the synchronization process included copying any newly downloaded 
app from the iOS device into the iTunes Library located on the computer.  

As of iOS 9.x, the synchronization process between the iOS device and the 
computer, no longer includes copying apps from the device to the computer.  

For those of us who rely on VoiceOver accessibility, this new process means 
that should an updated app break VoiceOver access, we can no longer restore an 
earlier version of the app using the same time-tested method as we have all 
come to enjoy.

Before I continue, I urge all of you to please contact Apple and express how 
significant this change in the synchronization process affects those of us who 
are blind or low vision.

The good news is that 

Re: Bluetooth keyboard bug, are you also experiencing this?

[Jennie Facer]

Hi,

E chord sends the messages. 

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

> On Oct 31, 2015, at 11:06 AM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
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> 
> I think E-cord works, but haven't got my list to hand right now.
> 
> Carol P
> 
>> On 31/10/2015 15:00, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
>> What if you want to make a line break and you're using a Braille display? 
>> What do you do then?
>>  Thanks,
>> Ari
>> 
>>> On Oct 30, 2015, at 5:04 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
>>> 
>>> When in messages, pressing enter to send the message is the intended 
>>> function. In mail, you can press command+shift+D to send the message.
>>> 
 On Oct 30, 2015, at 5:55 PM, Lynn White  wrote:
 
 When I am in a text message and hit the enter key, instead of getting a 
 new line, my message gets sent.
 
 However, in my emails, I do get a desired new line.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Oct 29, 2015, at 3:03 PM, Feliciano Godoy  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I am using a Logitech Bluetooth ultrathin keyboard with my iPhone 6s 
> using iOS 9.1. When I share a webpage using the Safari browser to Twitter 
> or Facebook, I am not able to input text  in the text field  using my 
> Bluetooth keyboard with voiceover. If I have voice over off however, I 
> can input text using the Bluetooth keyboard. I am not having any problems 
> and putting text another text fields were applications other than this 
> particular instance. I would like to know if you are also experiencing 
> this problem. I have already reported this to Apple, but would like to 
> know your feedback. Thank you,
> 
> 
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> Feliciano
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accessible blogging ap?

[Jen Barr]

Hi everyone.
I am thinking about starting a blog. Do any of you know of an ap that is 
accessible with voiceover? I've tried wordpress but it doesn't seem to work 
well.
Any suggesttions would be appreciated.  (smile) 

Jenifer Barr
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RE: How To Backup Your Third-Party VoiceOver Accessible iOS 9.x Apps

[M. Taylor]

Keith,

In a nutshell:

1.
Do not use iTunes automatic WiFi syncing, anymore, on any of your devices or 
from within iTunes.

2.
It is no longer possible to sync apps from your phone to your computer but only 
from your computer to your phone.

3.
If you like the current accessibility of a third-party app, currently installed 
on your phone, then, without connecting the phone to the computer, go into 
iTunes, on your computer, and update the app, manually.

4.
Once done, do not update the app on your computer, again, unless you are 
certain that it is VoiceOver accessible.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 12:03 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com'
Subject: RE: How To Backup Your Third-Party VoiceOver Accessible iOS 9.x Apps

Thanks very much for this, Mark.

So, if I understand your process, you suggest to synck all working apps on the 
iPhone to the PC in iTunes (to insure an accurate picture of currently working 
apps is reflected in iTunes on the PC), then disconnect the iPhone, then update 
apps from the PC using iTunes. 

I take it to mean that the apps will install on the PC from the app store by 
wi-fi, and be waiting there in case needed for future salvage of an 
inaccessible app downloaded directly to the iPhone.

Is this right? I just want to clarify to make doubly sure. Is this newer 
problem because iTunes no longer syncks the actual app, but only a pointer to 
the app in the app store, like happens with an iCloud backup?

Keith
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
M. Taylor
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 9:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: How To Backup Your Third-Party VoiceOver Accessible iOS 9.x Apps

Hello All,

I am cross-posting this to both V iPhone and Mac Visionaries.

NOTE 1:
This document assume that you do not use the automatic app update feature on 
your iOS device.

NOTE 2:
The following applies to those who use an iOS device in conjunction with iTunes 
on a computer, only.

As we have all experienced, there are times when updates to an app can break 
VoiceOver accessibility.

In iOS 8.x and earlier, assuming that one had previously synchronized with 
iTunes on a computer, if an update broke accessibility for a particular app, 
one could simply delete the newly updated copy of the app from the iOS device 
and then, connect the device to the computer and install the older version of 
the app, back to the iOS device.

This was possible because in iOS 8.x and earlier, assuming app WiFi syncing was 
not enabled, the synchronization process included copying any newly downloaded 
app from the iOS device into the iTunes Library located on the computer.  

As of iOS 9.x, the synchronization process between the iOS device and the 
computer, no longer includes copying apps from the device to the computer.  

For those of us who rely on VoiceOver accessibility, this new process means 
that should an updated app break VoiceOver access, we can no longer restore an 
earlier version of the app using the same time-tested method as we have all 
come to enjoy.

Before I continue, I urge all of you to please contact Apple and express how 
significant this change in the synchronization process affects those of us who 
are blind or low vision.

The good news is that there is a simple workaround, so to speak, available to 
those of us who want to insure that we always have an accessible copy of an 
app.  

Just update the app in iTunes before connecting the iOS device.  Updating apps, 
in iTunes on the computer, actually downloads a full copy of the app in the 
.IPA format which, just as always, can be copied to any authorized iOS 
compatible device.  

Confused?  Don't be; the following example should help clarify the process:

[BEGIN EXAMPLE]
DAY ONE:

1.
You're very happy with all of your currently installed apps.  Your favorite app 
is the Candle Shore BLOG.com app and you don't want to lose VoiceOver 
accessibility to it, should it be updated.

2.
You want to make certain that you have a full copy of this accessible version 
of the app on your computer, just in case any future updates break its 
accessibility.

3.
On your computer, you open iTunes and navigate to the Apps area.  You locate 
the Candle Shore BLOG.com app and, Click the Update button.  This will update a 
full copy of the app on your computer to the same version that is currently on 
your iOS device.  Remember, you will only do this if you like the current 
version that is on your iOS device.  Because you like to plan for worse case 
scenarios, you decide to perform such an update for all of your 
mission-critical apps like those having to do with banking, GPS navigation, etc.

DAY TWO:

1.
Upon checking the App Store, on your iOS device, you discover that there is an 
update to the Candle Shore BLOG.com app.  

2.
You 

RE: How To Backup Your Third-Party VoiceOver Accessible iOS 9.x Apps

[Alan Lemly]

I'll add another step to Mark's helpful instructions:

Create a Backup subfolder off your Mobile Applications folder and make sure
whenever you get another version of an app, you copy it into this backup
subfolder on your computer. Then, you'll always have the various versions
you've tried in case you need to cycle back to one of them when an
inaccessible or just plain poor update happens. I'm thinking of Audible
right now.

Alan Lemly

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of M. Taylor
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 2:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How To Backup Your Third-Party VoiceOver Accessible iOS 9.x
Apps

Keith,

In a nutshell:

1.
Do not use iTunes automatic WiFi syncing, anymore, on any of your devices or
from within iTunes.

2.
It is no longer possible to sync apps from your phone to your computer but
only from your computer to your phone.

3.
If you like the current accessibility of a third-party app, currently
installed on your phone, then, without connecting the phone to the computer,
go into iTunes, on your computer, and update the app, manually.

4.
Once done, do not update the app on your computer, again, unless you are
certain that it is VoiceOver accessible.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 12:03 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com'
Subject: RE: How To Backup Your Third-Party VoiceOver Accessible iOS 9.x
Apps

Thanks very much for this, Mark.

So, if I understand your process, you suggest to synck all working apps on
the iPhone to the PC in iTunes (to insure an accurate picture of currently
working apps is reflected in iTunes on the PC), then disconnect the iPhone,
then update apps from the PC using iTunes. 

I take it to mean that the apps will install on the PC from the app store by
wi-fi, and be waiting there in case needed for future salvage of an
inaccessible app downloaded directly to the iPhone.

Is this right? I just want to clarify to make doubly sure. Is this newer
problem because iTunes no longer syncks the actual app, but only a pointer
to the app in the app store, like happens with an iCloud backup?

Keith
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of M. Taylor
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 9:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: How To Backup Your Third-Party VoiceOver Accessible iOS 9.x Apps

Hello All,

I am cross-posting this to both V iPhone and Mac Visionaries.

NOTE 1:
This document assume that you do not use the automatic app update feature on
your iOS device.

NOTE 2:
The following applies to those who use an iOS device in conjunction with
iTunes on a computer, only.

As we have all experienced, there are times when updates to an app can break
VoiceOver accessibility.

In iOS 8.x and earlier, assuming that one had previously synchronized with
iTunes on a computer, if an update broke accessibility for a particular app,
one could simply delete the newly updated copy of the app from the iOS
device and then, connect the device to the computer and install the older
version of the app, back to the iOS device.

This was possible because in iOS 8.x and earlier, assuming app WiFi syncing
was not enabled, the synchronization process included copying any newly
downloaded app from the iOS device into the iTunes Library located on the
computer.  

As of iOS 9.x, the synchronization process between the iOS device and the
computer, no longer includes copying apps from the device to the computer.  

For those of us who rely on VoiceOver accessibility, this new process means
that should an updated app break VoiceOver access, we can no longer restore
an earlier version of the app using the same time-tested method as we have
all come to enjoy.

Before I continue, I urge all of you to please contact Apple and express how
significant this change in the synchronization process affects those of us
who are blind or low vision.

The good news is that there is a simple workaround, so to speak, available
to those of us who want to insure that we always have an accessible copy of
an app.  

Just update the app in iTunes before connecting the iOS device.  Updating
apps, in iTunes on the computer, actually downloads a full copy of the app
in the .IPA format which, just as always, can be copied to any authorized
iOS compatible device.  

Confused?  Don't be; the following example should help clarify the process:

[BEGIN EXAMPLE]
DAY ONE:

1.
You're very happy with all of your currently installed apps.  Your favorite
app is the Candle Shore BLOG.com app and you don't want to lose VoiceOver
accessibility to it, should it be updated.

2.
You want to make certain that you have a full copy of this accessible
version of the app on your computer, just in case any future updates break
its accessibility.

3.
On your 

RE: How To Backup Your Third-Party VoiceOver Accessible iOS 9.x Apps

[M. Taylor]

Keith,

If you purchase a new app, on your phone, that does not exist on your computer, 
then the app will be copied to the computer; you may have to manually select to 
transfer the purchase, however.  Once this has been done, once, it will not 
update from the phone, again.  

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 12:49 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com'
Subject: RE: How To Backup Your Third-Party VoiceOver Accessible iOS 9.x Apps

OK, but if I buy a new app today from the app store via my phone, how do I get 
that app onto my PC in the apps area  within iTunes so I can update it?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
M. Taylor
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 2:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How To Backup Your Third-Party VoiceOver Accessible iOS 9.x Apps

Keith,

In a nutshell:

1.
Do not use iTunes automatic WiFi syncing, anymore, on any of your devices or 
from within iTunes.

2.
It is no longer possible to sync apps from your phone to your computer but only 
from your computer to your phone.

3.
If you like the current accessibility of a third-party app, currently installed 
on your phone, then, without connecting the phone to the computer, go into 
iTunes, on your computer, and update the app, manually.

4.
Once done, do not update the app on your computer, again, unless you are 
certain that it is VoiceOver accessible.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 12:03 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com'
Subject: RE: How To Backup Your Third-Party VoiceOver Accessible iOS 9.x Apps

Thanks very much for this, Mark.

So, if I understand your process, you suggest to synck all working apps on the 
iPhone to the PC in iTunes (to insure an accurate picture of currently working 
apps is reflected in iTunes on the PC), then disconnect the iPhone, then update 
apps from the PC using iTunes. 

I take it to mean that the apps will install on the PC from the app store by 
wi-fi, and be waiting there in case needed for future salvage of an 
inaccessible app downloaded directly to the iPhone.

Is this right? I just want to clarify to make doubly sure. Is this newer 
problem because iTunes no longer syncks the actual app, but only a pointer to 
the app in the app store, like happens with an iCloud backup?

Keith
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
M. Taylor
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 9:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: How To Backup Your Third-Party VoiceOver Accessible iOS 9.x Apps

Hello All,

I am cross-posting this to both V iPhone and Mac Visionaries.

NOTE 1:
This document assume that you do not use the automatic app update feature on 
your iOS device.

NOTE 2:
The following applies to those who use an iOS device in conjunction with iTunes 
on a computer, only.

As we have all experienced, there are times when updates to an app can break 
VoiceOver accessibility.

In iOS 8.x and earlier, assuming that one had previously synchronized with 
iTunes on a computer, if an update broke accessibility for a particular app, 
one could simply delete the newly updated copy of the app from the iOS device 
and then, connect the device to the computer and install the older version of 
the app, back to the iOS device.

This was possible because in iOS 8.x and earlier, assuming app WiFi syncing was 
not enabled, the synchronization process included copying any newly downloaded 
app from the iOS device into the iTunes Library located on the computer.  

As of iOS 9.x, the synchronization process between the iOS device and the 
computer, no longer includes copying apps from the device to the computer.  

For those of us who rely on VoiceOver accessibility, this new process means 
that should an updated app break VoiceOver access, we can no longer restore an 
earlier version of the app using the same time-tested method as we have all 
come to enjoy.

Before I continue, I urge all of you to please contact Apple and express how 
significant this change in the synchronization process affects those of us who 
are blind or low vision.

The good news is that there is a simple workaround, so to speak, available to 
those of us who want to insure that we always have an accessible copy of an 
app.  

Just update the app in iTunes before connecting the iOS device.  Updating apps, 
in iTunes on the computer, actually downloads a full copy of the app in the 
.IPA format which, just as always, can be copied to any authorized iOS 
compatible device.  

Confused?  Don't be; the following example should help clarify the process:

[BEGIN EXAMPLE]
DAY ONE:

1.
You're very happy with all of your currently installed apps.  

How to Quote a Tweet on iPhone or Mac

[Brian Fischler]

Hey all,

As someone who is not a big Twitter user I need to quote a few Tweets as I have 
heard this is a good way to do things instead of retweeting as you will reach 
more people. Of course I have yet to figure out how to do this using VO. I have 
looked in Night Owl on the mac, Twitterrific on the iPhone as well as the 
native Twitter app on the app for the iPhone. Does anyone do this and if so 
how? Thanks,

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Re: MODERATOR NOTE: RE: Text messages not coming through

[Jennie Facer]

I found out that do not disturb feature was on. It wasn't specifically a beta 
question, but I understand.



Jenn and Kumi

> On Oct 31, 2015, at 1:29 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Jennie and Chris, et al:
> 
> This is not a Beta testing community.  Please do not post beta software 
> questions or discuss beta software, on-list.  
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Mark
> 
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> chris
> Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 11:23 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Text messages not coming through
> 
> While I have the beta on my iPad Mini 2, I am not able to reproduce the 
> problem since it's on a tablet not a phone.
> 
>> On 31/10/2015 16:44, Jennie Facer wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> My phone isn't alerting me that I am getting a text message. I installed the 
>> new beta last night. Is there a way I can fix this? I restarted my phone to 
>> no avail. My sound volume is up and my text tone is there.
>> Any ideas?
>> 
>> Jenn and Kumi
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RE: Bus Stops

[SSEric]

I cannot recall if this actually announces when you are at a stop or just
says where they are -- Hamilton and Main for instance.

BusTracker. When you are on the bus it does announce the stops as you go.

I have only used it a few times and not lately. I also am in Columbus, and
this might be a COTA product. I am sure it will have complete information in
the App Store.

Eric


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Of John Diakogeorgiou
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2015 1:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bus Stops

Good point! Columbus Ohio

John Diakogeorgiou

> On Oct 29, 2015, at 12:43 PM, Walter Ramage  wrote:
> 
> Hi.  Where is your location?  Walter.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: 29 October 2015 16:31
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Bus Stops
> 
> Hi:
> Is their an app out there which when walking down the street tells you
> where a bus stop is?
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RE: UK CUSTOMERS AND NEW APPLE TV

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi John,

Almost correct, only one "s" too many, it's Jonathan Mosen.
If you search any Podcast app for his name "Jonathan Mosen" all his Podcasts 
come up including the "Mosen at Large" and FS Cast.

Regards,
Sieghard

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It's one of the mossen at large podcasts. Excuse the spelling of his name.

On 10/30/15, MamaPeach  wrote:
> Where can one listen to this podcast?
>
> -Original Message-
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: UK CUSTOMERS AND NEW APPLE TV
>
> Jonathan Mosen did a podcast as he opened his early this morning (so 
> during our night). Worth a listen before you set up, perhaps.
>
> Carol P
>
> On 29/10/2015 23:45, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
>> Mine's arriving tomorrow. No channels per say but hopefully we should 
>> get lots of apps over time. iPlayer won't be coming to older units.
>>
>> On 10/29/15, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
>> wrote:
>>> Thanks, Chris.
>>>
>>> I'll watch the space! 
>>>
>>> Carol P
>>>
>>> On 29/10/2015 22:07, chris wrote:
 I hope Now TV comes to the new Apple TV but am confident it will 
 since it's available on the third gen and perhaps second gen too. I 
 read today BBC iPlayer will be coming to the new Apple TV but no 
 word if it's coming to the third gen.

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>
> Just thought I'd ask UK customers who have purchased the new Apple 
> TV just which channels are available to us, please?
>
> I'm not sure that I want one - yet - but could be persuaded ...
>
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Re: Bluetooth keyboard bug, are you also experiencing this?

[englishrider91]

What if you want to make a line break and you're using a Braille display? What 
do you do then?
 
Thanks,
Ari

> On Oct 30, 2015, at 5:04 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
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> When in messages, pressing enter to send the message is the intended 
> function. In mail, you can press command+shift+D to send the message.
> 
>> On Oct 30, 2015, at 5:55 PM, Lynn White  wrote:
>> 
>> When I am in a text message and hit the enter key, instead of getting a new 
>> line, my message gets sent.
>> 
>> However, in my emails, I do get a desired new line.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 29, 2015, at 3:03 PM, Feliciano Godoy  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> I am using a Logitech Bluetooth ultrathin keyboard with my iPhone 6s using 
>>> iOS 9.1. When I share a webpage using the Safari browser to Twitter or 
>>> Facebook, I am not able to input text  in the text field  using my 
>>> Bluetooth keyboard with voiceover. If I have voice over off however, I can 
>>> input text using the Bluetooth keyboard. I am not having any problems and 
>>> putting text another text fields were applications other than this 
>>> particular instance. I would like to know if you are also experiencing this 
>>> problem. I have already reported this to Apple, but would like to know your 
>>> feedback. Thank you,
>>> 
>>> 
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Apple TV 4 - NetFlix

[Peter Logan]

So .. either I have lost my mind, or NetFlix needs to fix the app for the Apple 
TV.  It seems as if audio description can’t be turned on...I can get to the 
choices for CC and other languages but the descriptive track isn’t a choice ..  
I have checked out several shows which I know description is on ... since it  
works on my 3rd. gend...  So, am I cracy..or just not looking in the right 
place .. and I do have the descriptions turned on in the TV settings ...

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RE: How To Backup Your Third-Party VoiceOver Accessible iOS 9.x Apps

[Alan Lemly]

Mark,

Okay. It sounds like getting apps on your computer is a bit fuzzy with iOS
9.x and iTunes 12.x. Not that many get apps this way, but with older
versions of iTunes, I could use it to initially download an app and those
would be transferred to my iPhone when I synced it to iTunes. Is this still
possible with iTunes 12.x and iOS 9.x?

I know everyone is shifting their focus to having everything on the cloud
but I'm still a bit of a dinosaur and like having my stuff on my local
computer where I'm in charge of it.

Alan Lemly

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Of M. Taylor
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 12:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How To Backup Your Third-Party VoiceOver Accessible iOS 9.x
Apps

Hello Alan,

In order to sync an iOS 9.x device to your computer, you must be running
iTunes 12.x on your Desktop.

If you download a new app on your iOS device that is currently not listed in
your computer's iTunes Library, the name of the file and, perhaps even a
full version of the file may be copied into your computer's iTunes Library.

If you want to make certain that you have a full copy stored in your
computer's iTunes Library, then, after detaching the iOS device, simply
locate the file in your computer's iTunes Library, and attempt to update it,
manually.  If the Update button is dimmed out, then you have a full copy of
the file on your computer.

Mark

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Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 9:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How To Backup Your Third-Party VoiceOver Accessible iOS 9.x
Apps

Mark,

Thanks for posting this but I have a couple of questions to make sure I
understand how this works with iOS 9.x.

I currently have iTunes 11.4 set to transfer purchases and whenever I back
up my iPhone to my computer, iTunes prompts me if I want to back up any apps
on the iPhone which aren't on the computer. Are you saying this will no
longer occur with iOS 9.x? I assume so, since you say we must select the app
in iTunes and ask it to be updated there to get later versions placed on the
computer.

So my final question is when I get a brand new app with my iPhone as opposed
to updating an existing app, how do I get this new app transferred to my
computer with iTunes and iOS 9.x? I assume since the app is only on the
phone as it has just been obtained, it will not be listed in the apps
section of iTunes in order to be updated.

Thanks for helping with this.

Alan Lemly

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Of M. Taylor
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 9:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: How To Backup Your Third-Party VoiceOver Accessible iOS 9.x Apps

Hello All,

I am cross-posting this to both V iPhone and Mac Visionaries.

NOTE 1:
This document assume that you do not use the automatic app update feature on
your iOS device.

NOTE 2:
The following applies to those who use an iOS device in conjunction with
iTunes on a computer, only.

As we have all experienced, there are times when updates to an app can break
VoiceOver accessibility.

In iOS 8.x and earlier, assuming that one had previously synchronized with
iTunes on a computer, if an update broke accessibility for a particular app,
one could simply delete the newly updated copy of the app from the iOS
device and then, connect the device to the computer and install the older
version of the app, back to the iOS device.

This was possible because in iOS 8.x and earlier, assuming app WiFi syncing
was not enabled, the synchronization process included copying any newly
downloaded app from the iOS device into the iTunes Library located on the
computer.  

As of iOS 9.x, the synchronization process between the iOS device and the
computer, no longer includes copying apps from the device to the computer.  

For those of us who rely on VoiceOver accessibility, this new process means
that should an updated app break VoiceOver access, we can no longer restore
an earlier version of the app using the same time-tested method as we have
all come to enjoy.

Before I continue, I urge all of you to please contact Apple and express how
significant this change in the synchronization process affects those of us
who are blind or low vision.

The good news is that there is a simple workaround, so to speak, available
to those of us who want to insure that we always have an accessible copy of
an app.  

Just update the app in iTunes before connecting the iOS device.  Updating
apps, in iTunes on the computer, actually downloads a full copy of the app
in the .IPA format which, just as always, can be copied to any authorized
iOS compatible device.  

Confused?  Don't be; the following example should help clarify the process:

[BEGIN EXAMPLE]
DAY ONE:

1.
You're very happy with all of your currently 

What are the KNFB settings to automatically take pictures using a document stand?

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

Hi,

I can successfully get KNFB to take pictures manually,, but haven't been able 
to get auto pix with a document stan, even though I think I have all the 
settings correctly set.

Can someone please outline the correct settings so I can double check?

Running 9.1 on an iPhone 6 with latest KNFB.

Thanks in advance, Keith 

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Re: What the freak has happened to Facebook?

[Laury-Johnson, Shawnese (LARA)]

Yes I am experiencing the same problem. I can tell that there are comments but 
I am not able to read them. I too would like this to be fixed but have no idea 
how to accomplish it
Thank you

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 31, 2015, at 8:18 AM, Terri Stimmel  wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> I am so irritated, as if you have not figured that out. I have been having a 
> problem with Facebook for some time now. I know I can not be the only one.
> 
> Whenever I post something, rather it be a post to my wall, or to a group I am 
> in, I am unable to read the comments that are left. I am going to assume that 
> this is a Facebook issue. But I could be wrong.
> 
> It is as if the comments were not even left. I updated Facebook, hoping that 
> this would fix the issue. I was quite disappointed to find out that nothing 
> had changed. I use my 4S to check Facebook, because right now I do not have a 
> working computer. So it is very important to me that this ap works.
> 
> Is anyone else have this same issue?
> If so, is there a way to fix it? I sure hope so!
> 
> Thank you to all who read my message, and may offer me help.
> 
> Terri
> 
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RE: Changing VO voices on iPhone 6

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You can also ask SIRI to "Open Voiceover Settings" and it will go straight 
there without having to double tap on Settings, then double tap General, then 
double tap Accessibility and then double tap Voiceover - it saves you 4 double 
taps and finding the item each time in between.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rajmund
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 1:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Changing VO voices on iPhone 6

Hello,
Settings, accessibility, voice over, speech.

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From: Kim Samco  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, October 30, 2015 5:54 pm
Subject: Changing VO voices on iPhone 6

>
>
> OK.  What am I missing?  I can't seem to be able to changethe VO voice.  I 
> change it in settings but the voice doesn't change.  
> 
> Thanks for any help.
> 
> Kim
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: What the freak has happened to Facebook?

[Patti Johnson]

I sometimes lose speech when I'm on facebook.  Happened this morning.
My guess it's the phone though.
Got to get that new one, one of these days.
Patti

On 10/31/2015 10:31 AM, Feliciano Godoy wrote:

Hi,
I am also having this problem with the latest Facebook app on mmmy iPhone 6s 
with iOS 9.1 When I flick to navigate, comments do not always show, but f I 
explore by dragging my finger, comments ill be read out. A work around may be 
to use Safari or your choice of browser to access Facebook. This would be a 
good time to make that website as a shortcut on your home screen.
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On Oct 31, 2015, at 5:18 AM, Terri Stimmel  wrote:

Hello everyone,

I am so irritated, as if you have not figured that out. I have been having a 
problem with Facebook for some time now. I know I can not be the only one.

Whenever I post something, rather it be a post to my wall, or to a group I am 
in, I am unable to read the comments that are left. I am going to assume that 
this is a Facebook issue. But I could be wrong.

It is as if the comments were not even left. I updated Facebook, hoping that 
this would fix the issue. I was quite disappointed to find out that nothing had 
changed. I use my 4S to check Facebook, because right now I do not have a 
working computer. So it is very important to me that this ap works.

Is anyone else have this same issue?
If so, is there a way to fix it? I sure hope so!

Thank you to all who read my message, and may offer me help.

Terri

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RE: What happened to airplay in control center on the iPhone?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Mary,

I'd try Settings > General > Reset Network Settings.


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Mary Otten
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Subject: Re: What happened to airplay in control center on the iPhone?

Well, I just powered down my iPhone and started up again. I went into control 
center, and there is still no airplay. I have AirDrop, and then the next thing 
in the flick order is flashlight. I would not care if flashlight went away. But 
I really do miss airplay darn it. It is on my iPad mini running iOS 9.1, just 
as this iPhone is running iOS 9.1.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 30, 2015, at 7:02 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi,
> It is where it always was on my 5s, just after AirDrop in the flick order.
> Have you try rebooting your phone?
> That just seems really strange.
> Richard
> 
> 
>> On Oct 30, 2015, at 6:36 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Richard, your advice is exactly what I did. I was playing the music  
>> through my phone and then went to the control center and tried to  find 
>> airplay in order to change to my living room stereo. But I could not find 
>> airplay. It seems to me it used to be right next to airdrop in the flick 
>> order. But no go. Where is it in your flick order?
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 30, 2015, at 6:09 PM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> It is still there on my 5s running 9.1.
>>> Is your airplay device on?
>>> Try starting the music, pausing it, then bringing up the control center.
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
 On Oct 30, 2015, at 5:53 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
 
 I want to play an album then I just purchased on my iPhone. I went to the 
 control center and look for airplay. It used to be there on iOS 8. It is 
 not there anymore. Where did it go?
 Mary
 
 
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Re: What the freak has happened to Facebook?

[englishrider91]

I'm pretty sure this is just a focus issue with Facebook and VoiceOver.  I am 
also using a 4S with the latest version of the Facebook app, and you can read 
comments, it's just more difficult now. Double-tap on your post, and flick 
through it; if your flicking jumps you from your post to the share or write a 
comment box, flick back up to your post and do a three-finger flick up. Then 
try to touch your post with your finger and then start dy a one-finger flick to 
the right.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Oct 31, 2015, at 6:33 AM, Laury-Johnson, Shawnese (LARA) 
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> 
> Yes I am experiencing the same problem. I can tell that there are comments 
> but I am not able to read them. I too would like this to be fixed but have no 
> idea how to accomplish it
> Thank you
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 31, 2015, at 8:18 AM, Terri Stimmel  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello everyone,
>> 
>> I am so irritated, as if you have not figured that out. I have been having a 
>> problem with Facebook for some time now. I know I can not be the only one.
>> 
>> Whenever I post something, rather it be a post to my wall, or to a group I 
>> am in, I am unable to read the comments that are left. I am going to assume 
>> that this is a Facebook issue. But I could be wrong.
>> 
>> It is as if the comments were not even left. I updated Facebook, hoping that 
>> this would fix the issue. I was quite disappointed to find out that nothing 
>> had changed. I use my 4S to check Facebook, because right now I do not have 
>> a working computer. So it is very important to me that this ap works.
>> 
>> Is anyone else have this same issue?
>> If so, is there a way to fix it? I sure hope so!
>> 
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>> 
>> Terri
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Re: What the freak has happened to Facebook?

[Alan Lemly]

I just experienced a bit of this when someone replied to one of my Facebook 
comments. When I double tapped on the initial post with the latest Facebook 
version on my iPhone 6, her reply was shown indented below mine but VoiceOver 
didn't read this indented comment. I had to double tap on the screen with the 
indented comment and a new screen opened where VoiceOver could read my comment 
and the indented reply. You might try that. 

Alan Lemly 

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> On Oct 31, 2015, at 9:31 AM, Feliciano Godoy  
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> Hi,
> I am also having this problem with the latest Facebook app on mmmy iPhone 6s 
> with iOS 9.1 When I flick to navigate, comments do not always show, but f I 
> explore by dragging my finger, comments ill be read out. A work around may be 
> to use Safari or your choice of browser to access Facebook. This would be a 
> good time to make that website as a shortcut on your home screen.
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>> On Oct 31, 2015, at 5:18 AM, Terri Stimmel  wrote:
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>> Hello everyone,
>> 
>> I am so irritated, as if you have not figured that out. I have been having a 
>> problem with Facebook for some time now. I know I can not be the only one.
>> 
>> Whenever I post something, rather it be a post to my wall, or to a group I 
>> am in, I am unable to read the comments that are left. I am going to assume 
>> that this is a Facebook issue. But I could be wrong.
>> 
>> It is as if the comments were not even left. I updated Facebook, hoping that 
>> this would fix the issue. I was quite disappointed to find out that nothing 
>> had changed. I use my 4S to check Facebook, because right now I do not have 
>> a working computer. So it is very important to me that this ap works.
>> 
>> Is anyone else have this same issue?
>> If so, is there a way to fix it? I sure hope so!
>> 
>> Thank you to all who read my message, and may offer me help.
>> 
>> Terri
>> 
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Re: Bluetooth keyboard bug, are you also experiencing this?

[Daniel Miller]

I’m not sure, since I don’t use a braille display that often with iOS. I can do 
some research though.

> On Oct 31, 2015, at 10:00 AM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> What if you want to make a line break and you're using a Braille display? 
> What do you do then?
> 
> Thanks,
> Ari
> 
>> On Oct 30, 2015, at 5:04 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
>> 
>> When in messages, pressing enter to send the message is the intended 
>> function. In mail, you can press command+shift+D to send the message.
>> 
>>> On Oct 30, 2015, at 5:55 PM, Lynn White  wrote:
>>> 
>>> When I am in a text message and hit the enter key, instead of getting a new 
>>> line, my message gets sent.
>>> 
>>> However, in my emails, I do get a desired new line.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
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 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 I am using a Logitech Bluetooth ultrathin keyboard with my iPhone 6s using 
 iOS 9.1. When I share a webpage using the Safari browser to Twitter or 
 Facebook, I am not able to input text  in the text field  using my 
 Bluetooth keyboard with voiceover. If I have voice over off however, I can 
 input text using the Bluetooth keyboard. I am not having any problems and 
 putting text another text fields were applications other than this 
 particular instance. I would like to know if you are also experiencing 
 this problem. I have already reported this to Apple, but would like to 
 know your feedback. Thank you,
 
 
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Re: Apple TV 4 - NetFlix

[Patti Johnson]

Oh I am glad to know that.
I sure don't know where I heard taht, then.  Strange, but I am glad to 
know it isn't true.

Patti

On 10/31/2015 11:47 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:

Hi Patty,

That’s not true, they just need to update the new apple TV app to 
support the feature, which apparently they’re working on. Audio 
description still works fine on iOS devices and on the desktop, however.


On Oct 31, 2015, at 10:18 AM, Patti Johnson > wrote:


I read somewhere that Netflix was no longer offering description.  I 
don't know where I read it, or if it is true.
Whatever the article was, it said that maybe Hulu would be taking 
that over.
But that was a while back when I read this and I don't think I 
misunderstood.

Patti

On 10/31/2015 11:16 AM, Peter Logan wrote:
So .. either I have lost my mind, or NetFlix needs to fix the app 
for the Apple TV. It seems as if audio description can’t be turned 
on...I can get to the choices for CC and other languages but the 
descriptive track isn’t a choice ..  I have checked out several 
shows which I know description is on ... since it works on my 3rd. 
gend...  So, am I cracy..or just not looking in the right place .. 
and I do have the descriptions turned on in the TV settings ...

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Re: Bluetooth keyboard bug, are you also experiencing this?

[Lynn White]

Hi Daniel,

Then how do you make a new line?  Thanks, by the way, for the helpful 
information.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 30, 2015, at 7:04 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
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> When in messages, pressing enter to send the message is the intended 
> function. In mail, you can press command+shift+D to send the message.
> 
>> On Oct 30, 2015, at 5:55 PM, Lynn White  wrote:
>> 
>> When I am in a text message and hit the enter key, instead of getting a new 
>> line, my message gets sent.
>> 
>> However, in my emails, I do get a desired new line.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 29, 2015, at 3:03 PM, Feliciano Godoy  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> I am using a Logitech Bluetooth ultrathin keyboard with my iPhone 6s using 
>>> iOS 9.1. When I share a webpage using the Safari browser to Twitter or 
>>> Facebook, I am not able to input text  in the text field  using my 
>>> Bluetooth keyboard with voiceover. If I have voice over off however, I can 
>>> input text using the Bluetooth keyboard. I am not having any problems and 
>>> putting text another text fields were applications other than this 
>>> particular instance. I would like to know if you are also experiencing this 
>>> problem. I have already reported this to Apple, but would like to know your 
>>> feedback. Thank you,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Feliciano
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Re: How To Backup Your Third-Party VoiceOver Accessible iOS 9.x Apps

[englishrider91]

Wow! This is so, so stupid! I am going to make a note to myself to contact 
chpple about this. They just took away a huge core function of iTunes. Now, if 
I wait too long to update the app in iTunes, I'll get the latest version of the 
app, whether I want it or not. Ugh! 


Thanks,
Ari

> On Oct 30, 2015, at 7:32 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
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> Hello All,
> 
> I am cross-posting this to both V iPhone and Mac Visionaries.
> 
> NOTE 1:
> This document assume that you do not use the automatic app update feature on
> your iOS device.
> 
> NOTE 2:
> The following applies to those who use an iOS device in conjunction with
> iTunes on a computer, only.
> 
> As we have all experienced, there are times when updates to an app can break
> VoiceOver accessibility.
> 
> In iOS 8.x and earlier, assuming that one had previously synchronized with
> iTunes on a computer, if an update broke accessibility for a particular app,
> one could simply delete the newly updated copy of the app from the iOS
> device and then, connect the device to the computer and install the older
> version of the app, back to the iOS device.
> 
> This was possible because in iOS 8.x and earlier, assuming app WiFi syncing
> was not enabled, the synchronization process included copying any newly
> downloaded app from the iOS device into the iTunes Library located on the
> computer.  
> 
> As of iOS 9.x, the synchronization process between the iOS device and the
> computer, no longer includes copying apps from the device to the computer.  
> 
> For those of us who rely on VoiceOver accessibility, this new process means
> that should an updated app break VoiceOver access, we can no longer restore
> an earlier version of the app using the same time-tested method as we have
> all come to enjoy.
> 
> Before I continue, I urge all of you to please contact Apple and express how
> significant this change in the synchronization process affects those of us
> who are blind or low vision.
> 
> The good news is that there is a simple workaround, so to speak, available
> to those of us who want to insure that we always have an accessible copy of
> an app.  
> 
> Just update the app in iTunes before connecting the iOS device.  Updating
> apps, in iTunes on the computer, actually downloads a full copy of the app
> in the .IPA format which, just as always, can be copied to any authorized
> iOS compatible device.  
> 
> Confused?  Don't be; the following example should help clarify the process:
> 
> [BEGIN EXAMPLE]
> DAY ONE:
> 
> 1.
> You're very happy with all of your currently installed apps.  Your favorite
> app is the Candle Shore BLOG.com app and you don't want to lose VoiceOver
> accessibility to it, should it be updated.
> 
> 2.
> You want to make certain that you have a full copy of this accessible
> version of the app on your computer, just in case any future updates break
> its accessibility.
> 
> 3.
> On your computer, you open iTunes and navigate to the Apps area.  You locate
> the Candle Shore BLOG.com app and, Click the Update button.  This will
> update a full copy of the app on your computer to the same version that is
> currently on your iOS device.  Remember, you will only do this if you like
> the current version that is on your iOS device.  Because you like to plan
> for worse case scenarios, you decide to perform such an update for all of
> your mission-critical apps like those having to do with banking, GPS
> navigation, etc.
> 
> DAY TWO:
> 
> 1.
> Upon checking the App Store, on your iOS device, you discover that there is
> an update to the Candle Shore BLOG.com app.  
> 
> 2.
> You update the app and discover, to your dismay, that VoiceOver
> accessibility has been broken.
> 
> 3.
> You immediately delete the app from your iOS device.
> 
> 4.
> Now, you connect the iOS device to your computer and, from within iTunes,
> you install the older, accessible, copy of the app, back to the iOS device,
> just as you would have done in iOS 8.x.
> [END EXAMPLE]
> 
> The bottom line is that if you are currently running iOS 9.x or later, you
> should manually update any important apps, on your computer, now, before any
> future updates break them.
> 
> Mark
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Re: Apple TV 4 - NetFlix

[Daniel Miller]

Hi Patty,

That’s not true, they just need to update the new apple TV app to support the 
feature, which apparently they’re working on. Audio description still works 
fine on iOS devices and on the desktop, however.

> On Oct 31, 2015, at 10:18 AM, Patti Johnson  wrote:
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> I read somewhere that Netflix was no longer offering description.  I don't 
> know where I read it, or if it is true.
> Whatever the article was, it said that maybe Hulu would be taking that over.
> But that was a while back when I read this and I don't think I misunderstood.
> Patti
> 
> On 10/31/2015 11:16 AM, Peter Logan wrote:
>> So .. either I have lost my mind, or NetFlix needs to fix the app for the 
>> Apple TV.  It seems as if audio description can’t be turned on...I can get 
>> to the choices for CC and other languages but the descriptive track isn’t a 
>> choice ..  I have checked out several shows which I know description is on 
>> ... since it  works on my 3rd. gend...  So, am I cracy..or just not looking 
>> in the right place .. and I do have the descriptions turned on in the TV 
>> settings ...
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Text messages not coming through

[Jennie Facer]

Hi all,

My phone isn't alerting me that I am getting a text message. I installed the 
new beta last night. Is there a way I can fix this? I restarted my phone to no 
avail. My sound volume is up and my text tone is there.
Any ideas?

Jenn and Kumi

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Re: Bluetooth keyboard bug, are you also experiencing this?

['Carol Pearson' via VIPhone]

I think E-cord works, but haven't got my list to hand right now.

Carol P

On 31/10/2015 15:00, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:

What if you want to make a line break and you're using a Braille display? What 
do you do then?
  
Thanks,

Ari


On Oct 30, 2015, at 5:04 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:

When in messages, pressing enter to send the message is the intended function. 
In mail, you can press command+shift+D to send the message.


On Oct 30, 2015, at 5:55 PM, Lynn White  wrote:

When I am in a text message and hit the enter key, instead of getting a new 
line, my message gets sent.

However, in my emails, I do get a desired new line.

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 29, 2015, at 3:03 PM, Feliciano Godoy  wrote:

Hi,
I am using a Logitech Bluetooth ultrathin keyboard with my iPhone 6s using iOS 
9.1. When I share a webpage using the Safari browser to Twitter or Facebook, I 
am not able to input text  in the text field  using my Bluetooth keyboard with 
voiceover. If I have voice over off however, I can input text using the 
Bluetooth keyboard. I am not having any problems and putting text another text 
fields were applications other than this particular instance. I would like to 
know if you are also experiencing this problem. I have already reported this to 
Apple, but would like to know your feedback. Thank you,


Regards,
Feliciano
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RE: How To Backup Your Third-Party VoiceOver Accessible iOS 9.x Apps

[M. Taylor]

Hello Alan,

A very excellent follow-up suggestion.  In fact, that's exactly what I do.  Now 
that I think about it, I have over 5 different Mobile Application backup 
folders, said folders being named for the dates upon which they were created.  
Although rarely have I had to use a second layer backup app, it brings me great 
comfort knowing that they do exist.

I initially thought about including the multiple Mobile Applications folder 
technique, in my original post, but thought it would only serve to muddy up the 
proverbial waters, so to speak.

Thank you for the follow-up suggestion. 

Mark
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Alan Lemly
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 12:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How To Backup Your Third-Party VoiceOver Accessible iOS 9.x Apps

I'll add another step to Mark's helpful instructions:

Create a Backup subfolder off your Mobile Applications folder and make sure 
whenever you get another version of an app, you copy it into this backup 
subfolder on your computer. Then, you'll always have the various versions 
you've tried in case you need to cycle back to one of them when an inaccessible 
or just plain poor update happens. I'm thinking of Audible right now.

Alan Lemly

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M. Taylor
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How To Backup Your Third-Party VoiceOver Accessible iOS 9.x Apps

Keith,

In a nutshell:

1.
Do not use iTunes automatic WiFi syncing, anymore, on any of your devices or 
from within iTunes.

2.
It is no longer possible to sync apps from your phone to your computer but only 
from your computer to your phone.

3.
If you like the current accessibility of a third-party app, currently installed 
on your phone, then, without connecting the phone to the computer, go into 
iTunes, on your computer, and update the app, manually.

4.
Once done, do not update the app on your computer, again, unless you are 
certain that it is VoiceOver accessible.

Mark

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Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 12:03 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com'
Subject: RE: How To Backup Your Third-Party VoiceOver Accessible iOS 9.x Apps

Thanks very much for this, Mark.

So, if I understand your process, you suggest to synck all working apps on the 
iPhone to the PC in iTunes (to insure an accurate picture of currently working 
apps is reflected in iTunes on the PC), then disconnect the iPhone, then update 
apps from the PC using iTunes. 

I take it to mean that the apps will install on the PC from the app store by 
wi-fi, and be waiting there in case needed for future salvage of an 
inaccessible app downloaded directly to the iPhone.

Is this right? I just want to clarify to make doubly sure. Is this newer 
problem because iTunes no longer syncks the actual app, but only a pointer to 
the app in the app store, like happens with an iCloud backup?

Keith
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M. Taylor
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 9:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: How To Backup Your Third-Party VoiceOver Accessible iOS 9.x Apps

Hello All,

I am cross-posting this to both V iPhone and Mac Visionaries.

NOTE 1:
This document assume that you do not use the automatic app update feature on 
your iOS device.

NOTE 2:
The following applies to those who use an iOS device in conjunction with iTunes 
on a computer, only.

As we have all experienced, there are times when updates to an app can break 
VoiceOver accessibility.

In iOS 8.x and earlier, assuming that one had previously synchronized with 
iTunes on a computer, if an update broke accessibility for a particular app, 
one could simply delete the newly updated copy of the app from the iOS device 
and then, connect the device to the computer and install the older version of 
the app, back to the iOS device.

This was possible because in iOS 8.x and earlier, assuming app WiFi syncing was 
not enabled, the synchronization process included copying any newly downloaded 
app from the iOS device into the iTunes Library located on the computer.  

As of iOS 9.x, the synchronization process between the iOS device and the 
computer, no longer includes copying apps from the device to the computer.  

For those of us who rely on VoiceOver accessibility, this new process means 
that should an updated app break VoiceOver access, we can no longer restore an 
earlier version of the app using the same time-tested method as we have all 
come to enjoy.

Before I continue, I urge all of you to please contact Apple and express how 
significant this change in the synchronization process affects those of us who 
are blind or low 

Re: how to program apps?

[Alex Hall]

The tutorial that Scott mentioned--whose link I don't have handy--is the best 
way to get started. It won't teach you Swift, just Xcode; to learn Swift, I 
just googled it. Between Apple, Treehouse, Ray Wunderlich, and other sites, I 
picked it up easily enough. Of course, your level of ease will depend a great 
deal on what--if any--programming experience you have already. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 31, 2015, at 16:57, Joe Quinn  wrote:
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> Sorry for the crossposting, but I'm asking about both. What's the best way 
> for someone to learn how to program with apple's "swift" language? Is it easy 
> to learn? is Xcode accessible/easy to figure out? What about if you don't pay 
> for another year of the developer progoam? Would your app still remain in the 
> app store? what's better/easier to program for, mac, or iphone? if it's for 
> mac, respond on the mac list, iphone, the iphone list please. or just write 
> to me privately keeping the subject intact so threads are organized correctly 
> whichever you prefeer! Thanks for helping me on this!
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Hi,

I have been having a problem listening to the World Series on TuneIn Radio.  
While the game is playing a window with a video is popping up and playing.  The 
audio from the video is playing along with the game I'm trying to listen to.  I 
pause the video and press "done" to go back to the "now playing" screen.  A 
second or 20 later the video pops back up and plays again.

Anyone have any ideas?

Thanks.

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RE: TuneIn Radio

[Richard Turner]

First, are you running TuneIn Radio, or TuneIn Radio Pro?
TuneIn Radio is sponsored by ads.
tuneIn Radio Pro, gets rid of the ads.
You must have a TuneIn Radio Premium subscription or you wouldn't have access 
to the games.
I don't know that the premium subscription gets rid of the ads.

One of the reasons I have MLB at Bat.  
I have tuneIn Radio Pro, but I decided since I already had MLB at Bat, I didn't 
need to pay for the TuneIn Radio Premium.

Richard


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Subject: TuneIn Radio

Hi,

I have been having a problem listening to the World Series on TuneIn Radio.  
While the game is playing a window with a video is popping up and playing.  The 
audio from the video is playing along with the game I'm trying to listen to.  I 
pause the video and press "done" to go back to the "now playing" screen.  A 
second or 20 later the video pops back up and plays again.

Anyone have any ideas?

Thanks.

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Re: TuneIn Radio

[Gary Ketler]

I have this same issue. It occurs every 5 minutes or so.



> On Oct 31, 2015, at 8:14 PM,   wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have been having a problem listening to the World Series on TuneIn Radio.  
> While the game is playing a window with a video is popping up and playing.  
> The audio from the video is playing along with the game I'm trying to listen 
> to.  I pause the video and press "done" to go back to the "now playing" 
> screen.  A second or 20 later the video pops back up and plays again.
> 
> Anyone have any ideas?
> 
> Thanks.
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Re: How to Quote a Tweet on iPhone or Mac

[Kathy Brandt]

In the native Twitter iPhone app, when you hit retweet, you were given a choice 
as to whether you want to retweet, or quote tweet. When you double tap the 
quote tweet button, you can write your comments in the edit box, and your 
recipients will see the original tweet, and your comments.




> On Oct 31, 2015, at 4:17 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
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> Hey all,
> 
> As someone who is not a big Twitter user I need to quote a few Tweets as I 
> have heard this is a good way to do things instead of retweeting as you will 
> reach more people. Of course I have yet to figure out how to do this using 
> VO. I have looked in Night Owl on the mac, Twitterrific on the iPhone as well 
> as the native Twitter app on the app for the iPhone. Does anyone do this and 
> if so how? Thanks,
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Re: anyone else having trouble with using ApplePay on the apple store app?

[John Diakogeorgiou]

I had the same problem. My bank would not accept them because of the way they 
report their name. This is after I confirmed the gtransaction several times.

John Diakogeorgiou

> On Oct 31, 2015, at 2:29 PM, Amy Ruel  wrote:
> 
> Subject line says it all. I have had 4 support calls with Apple about this to 
> no avail. Have checked and my settings and account information are all 
> correct in iTunes and Wallet and ApplePay app. I have been able to 
> successfully pay with ApplePay in the Apple store, can purchase using “other 
> payment options” within the Apple store app, and have checked online to make 
> sure that my Apple ID is correct. I have re-set network settings twice, 
> verified and re-entered my billing address multiple times, and have tried to 
> order using cellular data. I have deleted and re-installed the Apple store 
> app.
> When I attempt to purchase using touch id, I get “error image”, which points 
> to the billing address. This has also been verified by a sighted person. The 
> only thing I note is that my ship to name is incorrect, though it is correct 
> in my Wallet app.
> Any additional suggestions?
> Thanks.
> Amy
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Does anyone know how I can send multiple word documents as attachments in a single e-mail from my IPad?

['Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone]

Hi all 

Just wondering if anyone can help me. I have 2 Word documents which I've 
written and are saved on ICloud Drive on my IPad Mini 3. I want to e-mail these 
documents out to people as attachments, but obviously would rather attach both 
of them to the same e-mail. So does anyone know how I can do this from my IPad. 
Any help/instructions much appreciated. 

Many thanks. 

Eleanor 

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trouble downloading from the app store

[don bishop]

>
>
> Is anyone else having trouble downloading from the app store today? 
> When I try and download something I seem to get stuck at the "connecting" 
> message. 
> also, I haven't seen anything updated since Oct 22, but that may not be 
> related.  
> 
> Don  

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Re: Does anyone know how I can send multiple word documents as attachments in a single e-mail from my IPad?

[Chris Chaffin]

To attach files to email I use an app called phone drive.  I just open each 
file into the app, then I just select both files and select email.
Below is a link to the app in the app store.  There used to be a podcast about 
the app on AppleVis.
Hope his helps:

Phone Drive - iFile Manager & File Browser by Eightythree Technology
https://appsto.re/us/uRqSz.i


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> On Oct 31, 2015, at 7:03 PM, 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
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> Hi all 
> 
> Just wondering if anyone can help me. I have 2 Word documents which I've 
> written and are saved on ICloud Drive on my IPad Mini 3. I want to e-mail 
> these documents out to people as attachments, but obviously would rather 
> attach both of them to the same e-mail. So does anyone know how I can do this 
> from my IPad. Any help/instructions much appreciated. 
> 
> Many thanks. 
> 
> Eleanor 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
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RE: Bus Stops

[SSEric]

In my earlier suggestion, I was not sure if BusTracker is a local product.
It is for Columbus, Ohio (COTA).

As I said, it has been awhile since I used it. Actually, I looked in the App
Store, and it has not been updated since 2010. However, it does work on the
bus to name passing intersections. It may not give more information than a
stop is at so and so. And, since there have been some major changes in
routes, even those might not be accurate. But, the tracking part might still
be useful. Since Uber, I seldom take busses any more.

Eric


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Subject: Re: Bus Stops

We are looking for an app which actually tells the person where the bus stop
is.

On 10/29/15, Walter Ramage  wrote:
> Hi.  Right, I'm afraid I can't help you on this occasion as I'm in the UK
> but I understand Apple has included transit information for some locations
> in there maps in 9 and that might help you.  In the UK there is an app
> called Travel Line GB.  This app has a list of every bus stop in the UK.
> The app locates you and lets you know what your nearest bus stops are and
> how far they are from your location.  It also tells you which busses stop
at
> that stop and if you click on live arrivals it will tell you what bus and
> number is due and at what time and how far away it is.  There is much more
> to this app but I would think that there would be something similar for
the
> USA, if not nationally then at least on a state by state basis.   Walter.
>
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> Subject: Re: Bus Stops
>
> Good point! Columbus Ohio
>
> John Diakogeorgiou
>
>> On Oct 29, 2015, at 12:43 PM, Walter Ramage  wrote:
>>
>> Hi.  Where is your location?  Walter.
>>
>> -Original Message-
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>> Sent: 29 October 2015 16:31
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>> Subject: Bus Stops
>>
>> Hi:
>> Is their an app out there which when walking down the street tells you
>> where a bus stop is?
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Re: anyone else having trouble with using ApplePay on the apple store app?

[Daniel Miller]

You need to use the 2 letter abbreviation for the state name, as well as 2 
letters for street, drive, etc, otherwise the billing address won’t be 
accepted, at least in my experience.
> On Oct 31, 2015, at 5:32 PM, John Diakogeorgiou  
> wrote:
> 
> I had the same problem. My bank would not accept them because of the way they 
> report their name. This is after I confirmed the gtransaction several times.
> 
> John Diakogeorgiou
> 
> On Oct 31, 2015, at 2:29 PM, Amy Ruel  > wrote:
> 
>> Subject line says it all. I have had 4 support calls with Apple about this 
>> to no avail. Have checked and my settings and account information are all 
>> correct in iTunes and Wallet and ApplePay app. I have been able to 
>> successfully pay with ApplePay in the Apple store, can purchase using “other 
>> payment options” within the Apple store app, and have checked online to make 
>> sure that my Apple ID is correct. I have re-set network settings twice, 
>> verified and re-entered my billing address multiple times, and have tried to 
>> order using cellular data. I have deleted and re-installed the Apple store 
>> app.
>> When I attempt to purchase using touch id, I get “error image”, which points 
>> to the billing address. This has also been verified by a sighted person. The 
>> only thing I note is that my ship to name is incorrect, though it is correct 
>> in my Wallet app.
>> Any additional suggestions?
>> Thanks.
>> Amy
>>  
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Re: How to Quote a Tweet on iPhone or Mac

[Daniel Miller]

Night Owl doesn’t support quoted tweets. Who knows if it will, since the app 
seems to only get updated once a year when new OS versions come out these days.

> On Oct 31, 2015, at 5:16 PM, Kathy Brandt  wrote:
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> In the native Twitter iPhone app, when you hit retweet, you were given a 
> choice as to whether you want to retweet, or quote tweet. When you double tap 
> the quote tweet button, you can write your comments in the edit box, and your 
> recipients will see the original tweet, and your comments.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 31, 2015, at 4:17 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
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>> Hey all,
>> 
>> As someone who is not a big Twitter user I need to quote a few Tweets as I 
>> have heard this is a good way to do things instead of retweeting as you will 
>> reach more people. Of course I have yet to figure out how to do this using 
>> VO. I have looked in Night Owl on the mac, Twitterrific on the iPhone as 
>> well as the native Twitter app on the app for the iPhone. Does anyone do 
>> this and if so how? Thanks,
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Re: Apple TV 4 - NetFlix

[Ryan Mann]

I haven't received my new Apple TV yet.  However, I heard there was an option 
in settings to turn on audio description.  Could that be how you change it for 
Netflex now?


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 31, 2015, at 11:59 AM, Peter Logan  wrote:
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> I just double checked my 3rd. gen and under the audio tab there still is the 
> choice for “English  Description” and that works ...
>  
> On the 4th. gen Apple TV the choice isn’t there ...
>  
> Argh   So, they are still offering it ...  just not on the new app ...  
> Will have to fire off an e-mail to them ...
>  
> Thanks ...
>  
>  
> From: Patti Johnson
> Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 11:18 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple TV 4 - NetFlix
>  
> I read somewhere that Netflix was no longer offering description.  I don't 
> know where I read it, or if it is true.
> Whatever the article was, it said that maybe Hulu would be taking that over.
> But that was a while back when I read this and I don't think I misunderstood.
> Patti
> 
>> On 10/31/2015 11:16 AM, Peter Logan wrote:
>> So .. either I have lost my mind, or NetFlix needs to fix the app for the 
>> Apple TV.  It seems as if audio description can’t be turned on...I can get 
>> to the choices for CC and other languages but the descriptive track isn’t a 
>> choice ..  I have checked out several shows which I know description is on 
>> ... since it  works on my 3rd. gend...  So, am I cracy..or just not looking 
>> in the right place .. and I do have the descriptions turned on in the TV 
>> settings ...
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Re: Apple TV 4 - NetFlix

[Peter Logan]

No .. I already have that on .. the only thing I have ever seen that have any 
impact on is the Watch ABC app ...  I believe it works with any ITunes content 
that has description .. I just haven’t ever bought anything from there that 
would have it ...


From: Ryan Mann 
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 10:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Apple TV 4 - NetFlix

I haven't received my new Apple TV yet.  However, I heard there was an option 
in settings to turn on audio description.  Could that be how you change it for 
Netflex now?


Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 31, 2015, at 11:59 AM, Peter Logan  wrote:


  I just double checked my 3rd. gen and under the audio tab there still is the 
choice for “English  Description” and that works ...

  On the 4th. gen Apple TV the choice isn’t there ...

  Argh   So, they are still offering it ...  just not on the new app ...  
Will have to fire off an e-mail to them ...

  Thanks ...


  From: Patti Johnson 
  Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 11:18 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: Apple TV 4 - NetFlix

  I read somewhere that Netflix was no longer offering description.  I don't 
know where I read it, or if it is true.
  Whatever the article was, it said that maybe Hulu would be taking that over.
  But that was a while back when I read this and I don't think I misunderstood.
  Patti

  On 10/31/2015 11:16 AM, Peter Logan wrote:

So .. either I have lost my mind, or NetFlix needs to fix the app for the 
Apple TV.  It seems as if audio description can’t be turned on...I can get to 
the choices for CC and other languages but the descriptive track isn’t a choice 
..  I have checked out several shows which I know description is on ... since 
it  works on my 3rd. gend...  So, am I cracy..or just not looking in the right 
place .. and I do have the descriptions turned on in the TV settings ...

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Re: how to program apps?

[Scott Berry]

Hi Joe and all,

Here is the link Alex was referring to and I mentioned earlier.

http://www.applevis.com/guides/programming-ios-programming-os-x-voiceover/voiceover-users-guide-xcode
> On Oct 31, 2015, at 7:13 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
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> The tutorial that Scott mentioned--whose link I don't have handy--is the best 
> way to get started. It won't teach you Swift, just Xcode; to learn Swift, I 
> just googled it. Between Apple, Treehouse, Ray Wunderlich, and other sites, I 
> picked it up easily enough. Of course, your level of ease will depend a great 
> deal on what--if any--programming experience you have already. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Oct 31, 2015, at 16:57, Joe Quinn  wrote:
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>> Sorry for the crossposting, but I'm asking about both. What's the best way 
>> for someone to learn how to program with apple's "swift" language? Is it 
>> easy to learn? is Xcode accessible/easy to figure out? What about if you 
>> don't pay for another year of the developer progoam? Would your app still 
>> remain in the app store? what's better/easier to program for, mac, or 
>> iphone? if it's for mac, respond on the mac list, iphone, the iphone list 
>> please. or just write to me privately keeping the subject intact so threads 
>> are organized correctly whichever you prefeer! Thanks for helping me on this!
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