Re: Questions regarding Google Home

[Janet Bell]

I have a google home mini and I have google play music as well if I get 
google assistant what difference will that make?  Janet


-Original Message- 
From: Andy Baracco

Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 10:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Questions regarding Google Home

To get the most functionality from your Google Home, you should install the
following apps to your iPhone. Google Home, Google Assistant, Google Maps,
Google Calendar, and Google Play Music. Make sure you are signed in to these
apps before setting up your Google Home. You will use the Google Home app to
set up your device. Also, if you want to play music from Spotify, Pandora,
and Apple Music, you will need to have these apps and have accounts set up,
as you will have to link these acounts with your Google Home.

Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Terri Stimmel" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 12:34 PM
Subject: Questions regarding Google Home



Hello everyone,


I was wondering, can the Google Home Mini work with my iPhone SE?

If so, how does this work?


Could I get Google to make calls and look up stuff for me, instead of
having to use Siri?

Also, what else could be done with it?

Could I get it to play Apple music?


Any thoughts or advice would be grately appreciated.


Thank you,


Terri

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Re: a frustrating dictation problem

[Jeff Samco]

It happens occasionally for me on my iPhone 5s.

Jeff

At 12:26 PM 1/17/2018, you wrote:
Jed, my SE is doing the same thing. Very intermittent and very 
frustrating! I hope somebody will give us some answers here. Good luck


Sent from a land far far away in a not so distant time zone!


> On Jan 17, 2018, at 2:57 PM, Jed Barton  wrote:
>
> Hey guys,
> Running the latest IOS with an iphone 7.  I seem to be having a
> problem where my phone is not repeating back to me what i dictate.
> For instance i use the linked in app a lot, and i'll hit the dictate
> button and it makes the ding and i'll say what i have to, then double
> tap again.  My phone isn't repeating it back as it should.  It seems
> to come and go.  Any ideas?
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Re: Making Siri work better for me

[Richard Turner]

I've not had too much trouble with Siri for calling people in my contacts. I 
use the first and last name fields. For businesses, I just put the business 
name in the last name field since using the company field gets very mixed 
results.
For directions, I either say "give me directions to Fred Meyer on Hawthorne" or 
I will say give me directions to a specific address, like "give me directions 
to 537 southeast 15th street, Portland, Oregon."

Asking more general questions gets much more mixed results.
Richard



"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner


On Jan 17, 2018, at 4:36 PM, John Panarese 
> wrote:

   Instead of saying, call "person name", try, dial "person name". I have had 
much more success.

   Also, for directions, I try to be specific. "give me directions to the 
closest IHOP to my current location" for example.


Take Care

John D. Panarese
Director
Mac for the Blind
Tel, (631) 724-4479
Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
Website, 
http://www.macfortheblind.com

APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer

AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE

MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT



On Jan 17, 2018, at 6:56 PM, MONICA JONES 
> wrote:

as far as I can tell, Siri was worse in Ios eleven with hey siri on. She does a 
lousy job when I ask her to call a contact. She/he was a little better in ten 
but not much. Siri will tell me where one option is located or that he/ can't 
find any such thing. Yes, I'm southern but I do know how to enunciate. (grin) 
On the other hand, I asked her to find hotels for me in Murfreesboro, TONIGHT 
and the old gal did a fantastic job.rom Yahoo Mail for iPhone

On Wednesday, January 17, 2018, 12:47 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
> wrote:

Have you set up Hey SIRI in SIRI Settings? If SIRI does not understand your 
speech this may help just a bit since setting this up involves you saying a few 
specific sentences to SIRI in order to train SIRI to respond to your voice.
As for SIRI finding certain businesses by category, profession etc. that is 
just as it is, I assume SIRI does not use Google for this information and since 
Google is definitely the best source for that results that come from other 
sources may just not be as good or it may just not find them.
I did, for example, just ask SIRI to look for hardware stores. It gave me 2 or 
3 options including a rental place, but it missed Canadian Tire which has a big 
tool and hardware section (it came up under department stores) and it also 
missed two building supply stores which both sell lots of tools and hardware.
When I asked for building supply stores it gave me the smithers Lumber Yard 
first which is definitely a good thing, but Castle Home Centre which is in a 
small town about 10 Km away was not listed at all, instead a business which 
does roof and other insulation was listed and also a cleaning business and a 
couple of construction businesses came up.
Obviously somewhere online the cleaning business must be listed under building 
supplies, but it's definitely a bit strange what sometimes is included.
When I Googled "Look for building supply stores nearby" on my computer (exact 
phrase I used to ask SIRI), the first 3 results are Smithers Lumber Yard, 
Smithers Home Hardware and Bulkley Valley Home Centre which is the franchise of 
that Castle building supply store I mentioned earlier and those 3 are 
definitely what a local would say are the top choices.
SIRI has its limitations, but it rarely has problems dialing my contacts, doing 
all the various phone functions and many other things. With your contacts you 
might want to look at how you have them entered. Do you set them up correctly 
with first name under first name, last name under last name and all that? Do 
you correctly format the phone number, the best option I sto use the 
international dialing format, for example, +1 (202) 555-. You can just use 
the 10-digit phone number with area code, but if you are calling a long 
distance number or if you are away and call a number at home which then is long 
distance, at best it will first tell you that this is a long distance call 
before the call goes through. Here in Canada the call will go through after you 
get that message, not sure if that works the same way in the US. If I put the 
+1 then it's never an issue.

Regards,
Sieghardever somewhere

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Terri Stimmel
Sent: Wednesday, January 

Re: Making Siri work better for me

[John Panarese]

   Instead of saying, call "person name", try, dial "person name". I have had 
much more success.

   Also, for directions, I try to be specific. "give me directions to the 
closest IHOP to my current location" for example.


Take Care

John D. Panarese
Director
Mac for the Blind
Tel, (631) 724-4479
Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com

APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer

AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE

MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT



> On Jan 17, 2018, at 6:56 PM, MONICA JONES  wrote:
> 
> as far as I can tell, Siri was worse in Ios eleven with hey siri on. She does 
> a lousy job when I ask her to call a contact. She/he was a little better in 
> ten but not much. Siri will tell me where one option is located or that he/ 
> can't find any such thing. Yes, I'm southern but I do know how to enunciate. 
> (grin) On the other hand, I asked her to find hotels for me in Murfreesboro, 
> TONIGHT and the old gal did a fantastic job.rom Yahoo Mail for iPhone
> 
> On Wednesday, January 17, 2018, 12:47 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  
> wrote:
> 
> Have you set up Hey SIRI in SIRI Settings? If SIRI does not understand your 
> speech this may help just a bit since setting this up involves you saying a 
> few specific sentences to SIRI in order to train SIRI to respond to your 
> voice.
> As for SIRI finding certain businesses by category, profession etc. that is 
> just as it is, I assume SIRI does not use Google for this information and 
> since Google is definitely the best source for that results that come from 
> other sources may just not be as good or it may just not find them.
> I did, for example, just ask SIRI to look for hardware stores. It gave me 2 
> or 3 options including a rental place, but it missed Canadian Tire which has 
> a big tool and hardware section (it came up under department stores) and it 
> also missed two building supply stores which both sell lots of tools and 
> hardware.
> When I asked for building supply stores it gave me the smithers Lumber Yard 
> first which is definitely a good thing, but Castle Home Centre which is in a 
> small town about 10 Km away was not listed at all, instead a business which 
> does roof and other insulation was listed and also a cleaning business and a 
> couple of construction businesses came up.
> Obviously somewhere online the cleaning business must be listed under 
> building supplies, but it's definitely a bit strange what sometimes is 
> included.
> When I Googled "Look for building supply stores nearby" on my computer (exact 
> phrase I used to ask SIRI), the first 3 results are Smithers Lumber Yard, 
> Smithers Home Hardware and Bulkley Valley Home Centre which is the franchise 
> of that Castle building supply store I mentioned earlier and those 3 are 
> definitely what a local would say are the top choices.
> SIRI has its limitations, but it rarely has problems dialing my contacts, 
> doing all the various phone functions and many other things. With your 
> contacts you might want to look at how you have them entered. Do you set them 
> up correctly with first name under first name, last name under last name and 
> all that? Do you correctly format the phone number, the best option I sto use 
> the international dialing format, for example, +1 (202) 555-. You can 
> just use the 10-digit phone number with area code, but if you are calling a 
> long distance number or if you are away and call a number at home which then 
> is long distance, at best it will first tell you that this is a long distance 
> call before the call goes through. Here in Canada the call will go through 
> after you get that message, not sure if that works the same way in the US. If 
> I put the +1 then it's never an issue.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghardever somewhere 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Terri Stimmel
> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 9:28 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Making Siri work better for me
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> 
> As you all likely remember, I wrote last week and said that Siri was dumb. 
> well, I still feel the same way, for the most part.
> 
> 
> I know how to speak to Siri. I know to wait for the tone. I understand 
> how I need to speak to it.
> 
> 
> But 1 reason I get so upset with it is, because I can ask it to call a 
> certain contact, and it can't do it. I say the contact just like it is, 
> within my contacts.
> 
> 
> but other strange issues are when I tell it to look up polmonology 
> specialests in Saint Louis, and it tells me it can't find any.
> 
> Google never did this stuff to me, ever! But for more than 1 reason, I 
> like the iPhone better.
> 
> 
> I did put the Google assistant on my phone. But I don't like that I just 
> can't say, Ok Google, and it won't come up.
> 
> 
> So are there things I can do, to possibly make Siri work 

Re: a frustrating dictation problem

[Lois Butterfield]

I just have gotten used to it, I guess.  I just place my finger in the right 
spot to hear what I said or what it thinks I said.  The only time it will 
repeat is when I have used Siri.


Take care,
Lois

-Original Message- 
From: Robin Frost

Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 7:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: a frustrating dictation problem

Hi,
Speaking strictly for myself yes I can verify the not reading content back
in native apps and this is running the latest operating system on an AT
iPhone 8Plus just to be as detailed as possible. I've just gotten used to
working around it so haven't fussed too much over it myself.
This goes for the dictating itself bug as well.

Robin


-Original Message- 
From: M. Taylor

Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 5:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: a frustrating dictation problem

Hello Robin,

I, too, have a new iPhone 8 Plus running the latest version of the OS.
However, I am not experiencing the problems discussed in this thread.

I do know, however, that some third-party apps do not play well with
VoiceOver via dictation.  For example, when I dictate a title into the
OverDrive public library app, sometimes the dictated text is read back to me
and other times, it is not.  Likewise, getting the edit option to appear in
the VoiceOver Rotor can be a bit of a challenge in some third-party apps,
such as OverDrive.

This is why I always use a native iOS app as my baseline when determining if
something is a system bug or an app-specific bug.

There is a well-known/documented/Apple acknowledged iPhone 8 series system
bug that is probably responsible for the sometimes experienced overlap/delay
dictation feedback anomaly where VoiceOver appears to dictate itself.

Finally, please keep the following in mind.  Despite public opinion to the
contrary, iOS versions can and do vary across carriers.  I assure you that
the iOS version that is running on Verizon Wireless devices is not the exact
same version that is running on a T & T Wireless devices.  Furthermore, yet
a slightly different version of the OS is installed on SIM-free devices.

Most of the time, these differences are all but impossible to notice but,
sometimes, as was the case about 3 years ago with regard to a video display
driver, these differences/bugs do show themselves.

Just some things to keep in mind as you troubleshoot and assess.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Robin Frost
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 2:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: a frustrating dictation problem

Hi,
I've observed this on an iPhone 8Plus running the latest version of the
operating system. I find that if I insert a space after it makes the I'm out
of dictation ding it'll then read it to me.  I can then either leave the
space or delete it as I wish.  I don't like this problem but hate even more
when you enter dictation and VoiceOver feels the necessity to recite
sometimes a lengthy hint or the like and it ends up trying to dictate
itself, oy (smile).
Robin


-Original Message-
From: Jed Barton
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 3:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: a frustrating dictation problem

OK i feel better.  Glad that i am not the only 1.

On 1/17/18, Michael D. Ulrich  wrote:

Jed, my SE is doing the same thing. Very intermittent and very
frustrating!
I hope somebody will give us some answers here. Good luck

Sent from a land far far away in a not so distant time zone!



On Jan 17, 2018, at 2:57 PM, Jed Barton  wrote:

Hey guys,
Running the latest IOS with an iphone 7.  I seem to be having a
problem where my phone is not repeating back to me what i dictate.
For instance i use the linked in app a lot, and i'll hit the dictate
button and it makes the ding and i'll say what i have to, then double
tap again.  My phone isn't repeating it back as it should.  It seems
to come and go.  Any ideas?

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RE: Door locks with fingerprint technology with Bluetooth and accessible app?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Most of these locks are available at Home Depot, Best Buy also has some, but at 
least Best Buy Canada does not seem to sell the Schlage Sense.
Definitely if you want just a basic electronic lock with keypad Home Depot or 
another large building supply store is a good place to start.
Amazon of course sells most of them as well.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rebecca Sabo
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 4:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Door locks with fingerprint technology with Bluetooth and 
accessible app?

Hi ,
where do you get this lock?
Becky
On Jan 14, 2018, at 11:22 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
> wrote:

Installing a basic electronic lock is not super-difficult, but you might want 
to have a backup plan, somebody you can call and ask for help, just in case.


From: 
viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
 On Behalf Of Cris Ali
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 9:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Door locks with fingerprint technology with Bluetooth and 
accessible app?

Thanks a million folks for this valuable information.
I do not have a security company, and I have no intention to hire one.  It is 
simply not needed in my area.
I asked my question because I have a tendency to lock myself out often.  That 
is why I thought of fingerprint or digital lock.
Now, I wonder how hard is it to install these locks.  Do I need to hire a 
specialist to assemble and install these kinds of locks, or I would be able to 
do it myself?  When it comes to the regular mechanical locks with keys, I 
always change them myself without hiring a Locksmith. I am not sure how hard it 
would be to install a digital lock by myself!
Cheers,
Cris

From: 
viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
 On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 11:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Door locks with fingerprint technology with Bluetooth and 
accessible app?

Find out the exact model and Google it, you’ll find all the features, specs and 
most likely a user manual in PDF.
I don’t know why anybody in their right mind would want to Alexa enable a 
doorlock. Alexa has no security as far as I can tell and if somebody knows you 
have Alexa and a smart doorlock that works with it all they have to do is walk 
up to an open window and ask Alexa to unlock your door. If I want to unlock my 
Schlage Sense with SIRI it only works if I first unlock my phone with Touch Id 
or my passcode.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: 
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 On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 6:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Door locks with fingerprint technology with Bluetooth and 
accessible app?

We have a Yale key pad lock on our door that was provided by our security 
company and I was wondering if anyone knows where we can get the users guide or 
find out more how to use it.  I don't want to have to asks the installer every 
time I want to set another code for someone.  I also want to know if they have 
an app so we don't have to wade through Alarm.com to try to 
find what might not be there.  I hear it is alexa enabled but don't know how to 
set that up either and neither does our installer.  I want to know if it is 
home kit capable as well.  any ideas?
Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

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- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 11:18 PM
Subject: RE: Door locks with fingerprint technology with Bluetooth and 
accessible app?

Not any more, quite a few electronic lock companies made fingerprint doorlocks 
years ago, I had one and so did a friend of mine, and they were the biggest 
pain in the neck.
Depending on how much you want to spend, you are much better off with an 
electronic lock with a keypad or a smartlock which you can unlock with your 
phone.
I have a Weiser electronic lock at my retail store which was actually installed 
by my alarm company and which has a keypad, but it also connects via the 
Zigbbee protocol to my alarm panel so I can unlock it via the alarm app 
remotely.
At home we just recently purchased a Schlage Sense smartlock which has home kit 
support. This means you can unlock it by telling SIRI “Unlock my front door” or 
from the home app. It has also a keypad, but it’s a touchscreen so you’d have 
to put at least a dot on the 5 or maybe put a tactile dot on the 1, 3, 5, 7 and 
9 to be able to use it 

Re: Door locks with fingerprint technology with Bluetooth and accessible app?

[Rebecca Sabo]

Hi , 
where do you get this lock?
Becky 
> On Jan 14, 2018, at 11:22 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Installing a basic electronic lock is not super-difficult, but you might want 
> to have a backup plan, somebody you can call and ask for help, just in case.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
> ] On Behalf Of Cris Ali
> Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 9:43 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: Door locks with fingerprint technology with Bluetooth and 
> accessible app?
>  
> Thanks a million folks for this valuable information. 
> I do not have a security company, and I have no intention to hire one.  It is 
> simply not needed in my area.
> I asked my question because I have a tendency to lock myself out often.  That 
> is why I thought of fingerprint or digital lock.
> Now, I wonder how hard is it to install these locks.  Do I need to hire a 
> specialist to assemble and install these kinds of locks, or I would be able 
> to do it myself?  When it comes to the regular mechanical locks with keys, I 
> always change them myself without hiring a Locksmith. I am not sure how hard 
> it would be to install a digital lock by myself!
> Cheers,
> Cris
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
> ] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 11:56 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: Door locks with fingerprint technology with Bluetooth and 
> accessible app?
>  
> Find out the exact model and Google it, you’ll find all the features, specs 
> and most likely a user manual in PDF.
> I don’t know why anybody in their right mind would want to Alexa enable a 
> doorlock. Alexa has no security as far as I can tell and if somebody knows 
> you have Alexa and a smart doorlock that works with it all they have to do is 
> walk up to an open window and ask Alexa to unlock your door. If I want to 
> unlock my Schlage Sense with SIRI it only works if I first unlock my phone 
> with Touch Id or my passcode.
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
> ] On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
> Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 6:10 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: Door locks with fingerprint technology with Bluetooth and 
> accessible app?
>  
> We have a Yale key pad lock on our door that was provided by our security 
> company and I was wondering if anyone knows where we can get the users guide 
> or find out more how to use it.  I don't want to have to asks the installer 
> every time I want to set another code for someone.  I also want to know if 
> they have an app so we don't have to wade through Alarm.com 
>  to try to find what might not be there.  I hear it is 
> alexa enabled but don't know how to set that up either and neither does our 
> installer.  I want to know if it is home kit capable as well.  any ideas?
> Kay Malmquist
> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com 
>  
> Ask for what you want. Believe that you deserve it, and then allow Life to 
> give it to you.
>  
> — Louise Hay 
> - Original Message -
> From: Sieghard Weitzel 
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 11:18 PM
> Subject: RE: Door locks with fingerprint technology with Bluetooth and 
> accessible app?
>  
> Not any more, quite a few electronic lock companies made fingerprint 
> doorlocks years ago, I had one and so did a friend of mine, and they were the 
> biggest pain in the neck.
> Depending on how much you want to spend, you are much better off with an 
> electronic lock with a keypad or a smartlock which you can unlock with your 
> phone.
> I have a Weiser electronic lock at my retail store which was actually 
> installed by my alarm company and which has a keypad, but it also connects 
> via the Zigbbee protocol to my alarm panel so I can unlock it via the alarm 
> app remotely.
> At home we just recently purchased a Schlage Sense smartlock which has home 
> kit support. This means you can unlock it by telling SIRI “Unlock my front 
> door” or from the home app. It has also a keypad, but it’s a touchscreen so 
> you’d have to put at least a dot on the 5 or maybe put a tactile dot on the 
> 1, 3, 5, 7 and 9 to be able to use it manually.
> Before we bought it we had a Schlage electronic lock on the front door and I 
> really like it, too. It has a lock button at the top and underneat two rows 
> of buttons, 1 to 5 and 6 to 0. The lock button is above the 3, so in the 
> middle above the two number rows. This particular lock 

Re: a frustrating dictation problem

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
Speaking strictly for myself yes I can verify the not reading content back 
in native apps and this is running the latest operating system on an AT 
iPhone 8Plus just to be as detailed as possible. I've just gotten used to 
working around it so haven't fussed too much over it myself.

This goes for the dictating itself bug as well.

Robin


-Original Message- 
From: M. Taylor

Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 5:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: a frustrating dictation problem

Hello Robin,

I, too, have a new iPhone 8 Plus running the latest version of the OS. 
However, I am not experiencing the problems discussed in this thread.


I do know, however, that some third-party apps do not play well with 
VoiceOver via dictation.  For example, when I dictate a title into the 
OverDrive public library app, sometimes the dictated text is read back to me 
and other times, it is not.  Likewise, getting the edit option to appear in 
the VoiceOver Rotor can be a bit of a challenge in some third-party apps, 
such as OverDrive.


This is why I always use a native iOS app as my baseline when determining if 
something is a system bug or an app-specific bug.


There is a well-known/documented/Apple acknowledged iPhone 8 series system 
bug that is probably responsible for the sometimes experienced overlap/delay 
dictation feedback anomaly where VoiceOver appears to dictate itself.


Finally, please keep the following in mind.  Despite public opinion to the 
contrary, iOS versions can and do vary across carriers.  I assure you that 
the iOS version that is running on Verizon Wireless devices is not the exact 
same version that is running on a T & T Wireless devices.  Furthermore, yet 
a slightly different version of the OS is installed on SIM-free devices.


Most of the time, these differences are all but impossible to notice but, 
sometimes, as was the case about 3 years ago with regard to a video display 
driver, these differences/bugs do show themselves.


Just some things to keep in mind as you troubleshoot and assess.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Robin Frost

Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 2:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: a frustrating dictation problem

Hi,
I've observed this on an iPhone 8Plus running the latest version of the 
operating system. I find that if I insert a space after it makes the I'm out 
of dictation ding it'll then read it to me.  I can then either leave the 
space or delete it as I wish.  I don't like this problem but hate even more 
when you enter dictation and VoiceOver feels the necessity to recite 
sometimes a lengthy hint or the like and it ends up trying to dictate 
itself, oy (smile).

Robin


-Original Message-
From: Jed Barton
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 3:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: a frustrating dictation problem

OK i feel better.  Glad that i am not the only 1.

On 1/17/18, Michael D. Ulrich  wrote:

Jed, my SE is doing the same thing. Very intermittent and very
frustrating!
I hope somebody will give us some answers here. Good luck

Sent from a land far far away in a not so distant time zone!



On Jan 17, 2018, at 2:57 PM, Jed Barton  wrote:

Hey guys,
Running the latest IOS with an iphone 7.  I seem to be having a
problem where my phone is not repeating back to me what i dictate.
For instance i use the linked in app a lot, and i'll hit the dictate
button and it makes the ding and i'll say what i have to, then double
tap again.  My phone isn't repeating it back as it should.  It seems
to come and go.  Any ideas?

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Re: Making Siri work better for me

[MONICA JONES]

as far as I can tell, Siri was worse in Ios eleven with hey siri on. She does a 
lousy job when I ask her to call a contact. She/he was a little better in ten 
but not much. Siri will tell me where one option is located or that he/ can't 
find any such thing. Yes, I'm southern but I do know how to enunciate. (grin) 
On the other hand, I asked her to find hotels for me in Murfreesboro, TONIGHT 
and the old gal did a fantastic job.rom Yahoo Mail for iPhone

On Wednesday, January 17, 2018, 12:47 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  
wrote:

Have you set up Hey SIRI in SIRI Settings? If SIRI does not understand your 
speech this may help just a bit since setting this up involves you saying a few 
specific sentences to SIRI in order to train SIRI to respond to your voice.
As for SIRI finding certain businesses by category, profession etc. that is 
just as it is, I assume SIRI does not use Google for this information and since 
Google is definitely the best source for that results that come from other 
sources may just not be as good or it may just not find them.
I did, for example, just ask SIRI to look for hardware stores. It gave me 2 or 
3 options including a rental place, but it missed Canadian Tire which has a big 
tool and hardware section (it came up under department stores) and it also 
missed two building supply stores which both sell lots of tools and hardware.
When I asked for building supply stores it gave me the smithers Lumber Yard 
first which is definitely a good thing, but Castle Home Centre which is in a 
small town about 10 Km away was not listed at all, instead a business which 
does roof and other insulation was listed and also a cleaning business and a 
couple of construction businesses came up.
Obviously somewhere online the cleaning business must be listed under building 
supplies, but it's definitely a bit strange what sometimes is included.
When I Googled "Look for building supply stores nearby" on my computer (exact 
phrase I used to ask SIRI), the first 3 results are Smithers Lumber Yard, 
Smithers Home Hardware and Bulkley Valley Home Centre which is the franchise of 
that Castle building supply store I mentioned earlier and those 3 are 
definitely what a local would say are the top choices.
SIRI has its limitations, but it rarely has problems dialing my contacts, doing 
all the various phone functions and many other things. With your contacts you 
might want to look at how you have them entered. Do you set them up correctly 
with first name under first name, last name under last name and all that? Do 
you correctly format the phone number, the best option I sto use the 
international dialing format, for example, +1 (202) 555-. You can just use 
the 10-digit phone number with area code, but if you are calling a long 
distance number or if you are away and call a number at home which then is long 
distance, at best it will first tell you that this is a long distance call 
before the call goes through. Here in Canada the call will go through after you 
get that message, not sure if that works the same way in the US. If I put the 
+1 then it's never an issue.

Regards,
Sieghardever somewhere 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Terri Stimmel
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 9:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Making Siri work better for me

Hello everyone,


As you all likely remember, I wrote last week and said that Siri was dumb. 
well, I still feel the same way, for the most part.


I know how to speak to Siri. I know to wait for the tone. I understand 
how I need to speak to it.


But 1 reason I get so upset with it is, because I can ask it to call a 
certain contact, and it can't do it. I say the contact just like it is, 
within my contacts.


but other strange issues are when I tell it to look up polmonology 
specialests in Saint Louis, and it tells me it can't find any.

Google never did this stuff to me, ever! But for more than 1 reason, I 
like the iPhone better.


I did put the Google assistant on my phone. But I don't like that I just 
can't say, Ok Google, and it won't come up.


So are there things I can do, to possibly make Siri work better for me?

My location is set, and the Apps I want it to work with, are set. So I 
am honestly not quite sure what else to do.


Any thoughts and suggestions would be very much appreciated.


Thank you,


Terri

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Re: a frustrating dictation problem

[Candy Lowe]

hi guys, I am using an iPhone eight running the latest iOS. I am experiencing 
this problem also.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 17, 2018, at 4:57 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Robin,
> 
> I, too, have a new iPhone 8 Plus running the latest version of the OS.  
> However, I am not experiencing the problems discussed in this thread.  
> 
> I do know, however, that some third-party apps do not play well with 
> VoiceOver via dictation.  For example, when I dictate a title into the 
> OverDrive public library app, sometimes the dictated text is read back to me 
> and other times, it is not.  Likewise, getting the edit option to appear in 
> the VoiceOver Rotor can be a bit of a challenge in some third-party apps, 
> such as OverDrive.  
> 
> This is why I always use a native iOS app as my baseline when determining if 
> something is a system bug or an app-specific bug.  
> 
> There is a well-known/documented/Apple acknowledged iPhone 8 series system 
> bug that is probably responsible for the sometimes experienced overlap/delay 
> dictation feedback anomaly where VoiceOver appears to dictate itself.
> 
> Finally, please keep the following in mind.  Despite public opinion to the 
> contrary, iOS versions can and do vary across carriers.  I assure you that 
> the iOS version that is running on Verizon Wireless devices is not the exact 
> same version that is running on a T & T Wireless devices.  Furthermore, yet a 
> slightly different version of the OS is installed on SIM-free devices.  
> 
> Most of the time, these differences are all but impossible to notice but, 
> sometimes, as was the case about 3 years ago with regard to a video display 
> driver, these differences/bugs do show themselves.  
> 
> Just some things to keep in mind as you troubleshoot and assess. 
> 
> Mark 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Robin Frost
> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 2:31 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: a frustrating dictation problem
> 
> Hi,
> I've observed this on an iPhone 8Plus running the latest version of the 
> operating system. I find that if I insert a space after it makes the I'm out 
> of dictation ding it'll then read it to me.  I can then either leave the 
> space or delete it as I wish.  I don't like this problem but hate even more 
> when you enter dictation and VoiceOver feels the necessity to recite 
> sometimes a lengthy hint or the like and it ends up trying to dictate itself, 
> oy (smile).
> Robin
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jed Barton
> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 3:46 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: a frustrating dictation problem
> 
> OK i feel better.  Glad that i am not the only 1.
> 
>> On 1/17/18, Michael D. Ulrich  wrote:
>> Jed, my SE is doing the same thing. Very intermittent and very 
>> frustrating!
>> I hope somebody will give us some answers here. Good luck
>> 
>> Sent from a land far far away in a not so distant time zone!
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 17, 2018, at 2:57 PM, Jed Barton  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey guys,
>>> Running the latest IOS with an iphone 7.  I seem to be having a 
>>> problem where my phone is not repeating back to me what i dictate.
>>> For instance i use the linked in app a lot, and i'll hit the dictate 
>>> button and it makes the ding and i'll say what i have to, then double 
>>> tap again.  My phone isn't repeating it back as it should.  It seems 
>>> to come and go.  Any ideas?
>>> 
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RE: a frustrating dictation problem

[M. Taylor]

Hello Robin,

I, too, have a new iPhone 8 Plus running the latest version of the OS.  
However, I am not experiencing the problems discussed in this thread.  

I do know, however, that some third-party apps do not play well with VoiceOver 
via dictation.  For example, when I dictate a title into the OverDrive public 
library app, sometimes the dictated text is read back to me and other times, it 
is not.  Likewise, getting the edit option to appear in the VoiceOver Rotor can 
be a bit of a challenge in some third-party apps, such as OverDrive.  

This is why I always use a native iOS app as my baseline when determining if 
something is a system bug or an app-specific bug.  

There is a well-known/documented/Apple acknowledged iPhone 8 series system bug 
that is probably responsible for the sometimes experienced overlap/delay 
dictation feedback anomaly where VoiceOver appears to dictate itself.

Finally, please keep the following in mind.  Despite public opinion to the 
contrary, iOS versions can and do vary across carriers.  I assure you that the 
iOS version that is running on Verizon Wireless devices is not the exact same 
version that is running on a T & T Wireless devices.  Furthermore, yet a 
slightly different version of the OS is installed on SIM-free devices.  

Most of the time, these differences are all but impossible to notice but, 
sometimes, as was the case about 3 years ago with regard to a video display 
driver, these differences/bugs do show themselves.  

Just some things to keep in mind as you troubleshoot and assess. 

Mark 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robin Frost
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 2:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: a frustrating dictation problem

Hi,
I've observed this on an iPhone 8Plus running the latest version of the 
operating system. I find that if I insert a space after it makes the I'm out of 
dictation ding it'll then read it to me.  I can then either leave the space or 
delete it as I wish.  I don't like this problem but hate even more when you 
enter dictation and VoiceOver feels the necessity to recite sometimes a lengthy 
hint or the like and it ends up trying to dictate itself, oy (smile).
Robin


-Original Message-
From: Jed Barton
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 3:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: a frustrating dictation problem

OK i feel better.  Glad that i am not the only 1.

On 1/17/18, Michael D. Ulrich  wrote:
> Jed, my SE is doing the same thing. Very intermittent and very 
> frustrating!
> I hope somebody will give us some answers here. Good luck
>
> Sent from a land far far away in a not so distant time zone!
>
>
>> On Jan 17, 2018, at 2:57 PM, Jed Barton  wrote:
>>
>> Hey guys,
>> Running the latest IOS with an iphone 7.  I seem to be having a 
>> problem where my phone is not repeating back to me what i dictate.
>> For instance i use the linked in app a lot, and i'll hit the dictate 
>> button and it makes the ding and i'll say what i have to, then double 
>> tap again.  My phone isn't repeating it back as it should.  It seems 
>> to come and go.  Any ideas?
>>
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Re: Questions regarding Google Home

[Andy Baracco]

To get the most functionality from your Google Home, you should install the 
following apps to your iPhone. Google Home, Google Assistant, Google Maps, 
Google Calendar, and Google Play Music. Make sure you are signed in to these 
apps before setting up your Google Home. You will use the Google Home app to 
set up your device. Also, if you want to play music from Spotify, Pandora, 
and Apple Music, you will need to have these apps and have accounts set up, 
as you will have to link these acounts with your Google Home.


Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Terri Stimmel" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 12:34 PM
Subject: Questions regarding Google Home



Hello everyone,


I was wondering, can the Google Home Mini work with my iPhone SE?

If so, how does this work?


Could I get Google to make calls and look up stuff for me, instead of
having to use Siri?

Also, what else could be done with it?

Could I get it to play Apple music?


Any thoughts or advice would be grately appreciated.


Thank you,


Terri

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RE: a frustrating dictation problem

[M. Taylor]

Jed, 

Does this problem occur when you are dictating text in the native iOS Message, 
Mail, Notes, or Reminder app?

Also, do you reboot your device at least once a day?

Mark

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From: jedbar...@gmail.com [mailto:jedbar...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Jed Barton
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 11:57 AM
To: viphone
Subject: a frustrating dictation problem

Hey guys,
Running the latest IOS with an iphone 7.  I seem to be having a problem where 
my phone is not repeating back to me what i dictate.
For instance i use the linked in app a lot, and i'll hit the dictate button and 
it makes the ding and i'll say what i have to, then double tap again.  My phone 
isn't repeating it back as it should.  It seems to come and go.  Any ideas?

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RE: Making Siri work better for me

[M. Taylor]

Hello Terri,

You know, since your first post on this matter, I have given a lot of thought 
to your problem.

Can you tell us by what means you are accessing Siri?  This is to say, are you 
speaking directly into the phone? Or are you using a headset.  Is the phone in 
a case? Or not.  

If you are using a thirdparty headset or the included Apple EarPods, it's quite 
possible that you have a faulty microphone.  This has happened to me at least 
twice in the past 4 years.  In both instances, I went to my local Apple Store 
and they swapped out the included Apple headset.  It's also possible that a 
case could be blocking part or all of the microphone.  

Perhaps it would be a good idea to take the phone to your local Apple Store and 
have them attempt to use Siri.

If this is not an option, then consider allowing someone else to use Siri on 
your phone to see how significant the difference in speech pattern may prove.

Though not commonly known, certain apps can sometimes impede Siri 
functionality.  So, be certain to clear all apps from the App Switcher when 
testing Siri.  

I cannot recall if you have performed a completely clean OS install on your 
phone to see if doing so will make a difference.  

Finally, it's possible, though rare, that your device may simply be a lemon.  
The only way to determine this is to take it to an Apple Store and have it 
examined.  

Since 2008, I have personally known one person whose device turned out to be a 
lemon.  Apple simply swapped it out after they could not quite narrow down the 
problem said problem having something to do with the internal microphone, if 
memory serves.

Good Luck,

Mark

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Terri Stimmel
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 9:28 AM
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Subject: Making Siri work better for me

Hello everyone,


As you all likely remember, I wrote last week and said that Siri was dumb. 
well, I still feel the same way, for the most part.


I know how to speak to Siri. I know to wait for the tone. I understand 
how I need to speak to it.


But 1 reason I get so upset with it is, because I can ask it to call a 
certain contact, and it can't do it. I say the contact just like it is, 
within my contacts.


but other strange issues are when I tell it to look up polmonology 
specialests in Saint Louis, and it tells me it can't find any.

Google never did this stuff to me, ever! But for more than 1 reason, I 
like the iPhone better.


I did put the Google assistant on my phone. But I don't like that I just 
can't say, Ok Google, and it won't come up.


So are there things I can do, to possibly make Siri work better for me?

My location is set, and the Apps I want it to work with, are set. So I 
am honestly not quite sure what else to do.


Any thoughts and suggestions would be very much appreciated.


Thank you,


Terri

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Re: a frustrating dictation problem

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
I've observed this on an iPhone 8Plus running the latest version of the 
operating system. I find that if I insert a space after it makes the I'm out 
of dictation ding it'll then read it to me.  I can then either leave the 
space or delete it as I wish.  I don't like this problem but hate even more 
when you enter dictation and VoiceOver feels the necessity to recite 
sometimes a lengthy hint or the like and it ends up trying to dictate 
itself, oy (smile).

Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Jed Barton

Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 3:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: a frustrating dictation problem

OK i feel better.  Glad that i am not the only 1.

On 1/17/18, Michael D. Ulrich  wrote:
Jed, my SE is doing the same thing. Very intermittent and very 
frustrating!

I hope somebody will give us some answers here. Good luck

Sent from a land far far away in a not so distant time zone!



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Hey guys,
Running the latest IOS with an iphone 7.  I seem to be having a
problem where my phone is not repeating back to me what i dictate.
For instance i use the linked in app a lot, and i'll hit the dictate
button and it makes the ding and i'll say what i have to, then double
tap again.  My phone isn't repeating it back as it should.  It seems
to come and go.  Any ideas?

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RE: Questions regarding Google Home

[Sieghard Weitzel]

The Google Home speakers including the Mini are similar to the Amazon Echo 
speakers.
They  are stand-alone devices and you can ask them for various information, set 
timers and so on.
There are companion apps for both, but more used for Settings and so on. You 
can give the Amazon Echo access to your contacts and ask it to make a call and 
also ask it to call such and such number by speaking the number. For the Echo 
this works for ccalls in North America. I assume you can make calls using the 
Google speakers as well, but for the most part they have not too much to do 
with your iPhone and won't change in any way how SIRI works.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Terri Stimmel
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 12:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Questions regarding Google Home

Hello everyone,


I was wondering, can the Google Home Mini work with my iPhone SE?

If so, how does this work?


Could I get Google to make calls and look up stuff for me, instead of having to 
use Siri?

Also, what else could be done with it?

Could I get it to play Apple music?


Any thoughts or advice would be grately appreciated.


Thank you,


Terri

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Re: a frustrating dictation problem

[Jed Barton]

OK i feel better.  Glad that i am not the only 1.

On 1/17/18, Michael D. Ulrich  wrote:
> Jed, my SE is doing the same thing. Very intermittent and very frustrating!
> I hope somebody will give us some answers here. Good luck
>
> Sent from a land far far away in a not so distant time zone!
>
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>> On Jan 17, 2018, at 2:57 PM, Jed Barton  wrote:
>>
>> Hey guys,
>> Running the latest IOS with an iphone 7.  I seem to be having a
>> problem where my phone is not repeating back to me what i dictate.
>> For instance i use the linked in app a lot, and i'll hit the dictate
>> button and it makes the ding and i'll say what i have to, then double
>> tap again.  My phone isn't repeating it back as it should.  It seems
>> to come and go.  Any ideas?
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Questions regarding Google Home

[Terri Stimmel]

Hello everyone,


I was wondering, can the Google Home Mini work with my iPhone SE?

If so, how does this work?


Could I get Google to make calls and look up stuff for me, instead of 
having to use Siri?

Also, what else could be done with it?

Could I get it to play Apple music?


Any thoughts or advice would be grately appreciated.


Thank you,


Terri

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Re: a frustrating dictation problem

[Michael D. Ulrich]

Jed, my SE is doing the same thing. Very intermittent and very frustrating! I 
hope somebody will give us some answers here. Good luck

Sent from a land far far away in a not so distant time zone!


> On Jan 17, 2018, at 2:57 PM, Jed Barton  wrote:
> 
> Hey guys,
> Running the latest IOS with an iphone 7.  I seem to be having a
> problem where my phone is not repeating back to me what i dictate.
> For instance i use the linked in app a lot, and i'll hit the dictate
> button and it makes the ding and i'll say what i have to, then double
> tap again.  My phone isn't repeating it back as it should.  It seems
> to come and go.  Any ideas?
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Re: a frustrating dictation problem

[Paul Henrichsen]

I'm not saying that problem on my iPhone X, nor did I see it on my iPhone a 
plus. The dictation is always repeat it to me after I double tap to stop the 
dictation.

Sent from my Apple Watch

On Jan 17, 2018, at 11:57 AM, Jed Barton  wrote:

> Hey guys,
> Running the latest IOS with an iphone 7.  I seem to be having a
> problem where my phone is not repeating back to me what i dictate.
> For instance i use the linked in app a lot, and i'll hit the dictate
> button and it makes the ding and i'll say what i have to, then double
> tap again.  My phone isn't repeating it back as it should.  It seems
> to come and go.  Any ideas?
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a frustrating dictation problem

[Jed Barton]

Hey guys,
Running the latest IOS with an iphone 7.  I seem to be having a
problem where my phone is not repeating back to me what i dictate.
For instance i use the linked in app a lot, and i'll hit the dictate
button and it makes the ding and i'll say what i have to, then double
tap again.  My phone isn't repeating it back as it should.  It seems
to come and go.  Any ideas?

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RE: Making Siri work better for me

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Have you set up Hey SIRI in SIRI Settings? If SIRI does not understand your 
speech this may help just a bit since setting this up involves you saying a few 
specific sentences to SIRI in order to train SIRI to respond to your voice.
As for SIRI finding certain businesses by category, profession etc. that is 
just as it is, I assume SIRI does not use Google for this information and since 
Google is definitely the best source for that results that come from other 
sources may just not be as good or it may just not find them.
I did, for example, just ask SIRI to look for hardware stores. It gave me 2 or 
3 options including a rental place, but it missed Canadian Tire which has a big 
tool and hardware section (it came up under department stores) and it also 
missed two building supply stores which both sell lots of tools and hardware.
When I asked for building supply stores it gave me the smithers Lumber Yard 
first which is definitely a good thing, but Castle Home Centre which is in a 
small town about 10 Km away was not listed at all, instead a business which 
does roof and other insulation was listed and also a cleaning business and a 
couple of construction businesses came up.
Obviously somewhere online the cleaning business must be listed under building 
supplies, but it's definitely a bit strange what sometimes is included.
When I Googled "Look for building supply stores nearby" on my computer (exact 
phrase I used to ask SIRI), the first 3 results are Smithers Lumber Yard, 
Smithers Home Hardware and Bulkley Valley Home Centre which is the franchise of 
that Castle building supply store I mentioned earlier and those 3 are 
definitely what a local would say are the top choices.
SIRI has its limitations, but it rarely has problems dialing my contacts, doing 
all the various phone functions and many other things. With your contacts you 
might want to look at how you have them entered. Do you set them up correctly 
with first name under first name, last name under last name and all that? Do 
you correctly format the phone number, the best option I sto use the 
international dialing format, for example, +1 (202) 555-. You can just use 
the 10-digit phone number with area code, but if you are calling a long 
distance number or if you are away and call a number at home which then is long 
distance, at best it will first tell you that this is a long distance call 
before the call goes through. Here in Canada the call will go through after you 
get that message, not sure if that works the same way in the US. If I put the 
+1 then it's never an issue.

Regards,
Sieghardever somewhere 

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Terri Stimmel
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 9:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Making Siri work better for me

Hello everyone,


As you all likely remember, I wrote last week and said that Siri was dumb. 
well, I still feel the same way, for the most part.


I know how to speak to Siri. I know to wait for the tone. I understand 
how I need to speak to it.


But 1 reason I get so upset with it is, because I can ask it to call a 
certain contact, and it can't do it. I say the contact just like it is, 
within my contacts.


but other strange issues are when I tell it to look up polmonology 
specialests in Saint Louis, and it tells me it can't find any.

Google never did this stuff to me, ever! But for more than 1 reason, I 
like the iPhone better.


I did put the Google assistant on my phone. But I don't like that I just 
can't say, Ok Google, and it won't come up.


So are there things I can do, to possibly make Siri work better for me?

My location is set, and the Apps I want it to work with, are set. So I 
am honestly not quite sure what else to do.


Any thoughts and suggestions would be very much appreciated.


Thank you,


Terri

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Making Siri work better for me

[Terri Stimmel]

Hello everyone,


As you all likely remember, I wrote last week and said that Siri was 
dumb. well, I still feel the same way, for the most part.


I know how to speak to Siri. I know to wait for the tone. I understand 
how I need to speak to it.


But 1 reason I get so upset with it is, because I can ask it to call a 
certain contact, and it can't do it. I say the contact just like it is, 
within my contacts.


but other strange issues are when I tell it to look up polmonology 
specialests in Saint Louis, and it tells me it can't find any.

Google never did this stuff to me, ever! But for more than 1 reason, I 
like the iPhone better.


I did put the Google assistant on my phone. But I don't like that I just 
can't say, Ok Google, and it won't come up.


So are there things I can do, to possibly make Siri work better for me?

My location is set, and the Apps I want it to work with, are set. So I 
am honestly not quite sure what else to do.


Any thoughts and suggestions would be very much appreciated.


Thank you,


Terri

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Piano Lessons

['Martin Maidment' via VIPhone]

Hi all

 

Does anybody know of an accessable app for learning the piano.  Mainly I
need to be able to hear or read the letters of the notes.

 

If there isn't one but anybody knows of a good website please privately
e-mail me.

 

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Re: Unsubscribing from Hulu?

[Liz Ulrich and LD Hope]

You can go to Hulu's web site or you can call HuLu customer service and cancel 
that way. 


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Unsubscribing from Hulu?

[dacia . luck]

Hi, how would I go about unsubscribing from Hulu? Can I do it on my phone? If 
so, where do I go? I’ve tried to look in settings, but don’t see anything that 
looks relevant.
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Dacia

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Mac audio?

[Harry Bell]

For my new Mac mini, what combination of microphone and speaker works well? I 
can’t use in-ear earphones. Can anyone recommend either a headset with 
microphone or separate speaker and a microphone?
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