RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

[Dennis Long]

Agree with you

 

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Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

 

SIM card has nothing to do with iPhone speed. SIM card is for service.

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On Apr 18, 2020, at 1:38 PM, R Van Lant mailto:vanlant2...@msn.com> > wrote:

 

>From another thread on this list, it sounds like putting the sim card for my 
>current phone into a new one could degrade the service.  I’m on a 6S now and 
>am looking forward to all the new speed I can get from the SE.   

I’m on the Verizon site now and one caveat I see to buying from there is that 
they say the trade in for my current phone is only $35, whereas Apple will give 
me $80. If Verizon waives the activation fee, which I think a store sales 
person recently told me is $40, that balances out with the savings I would get 
direct from Apple.  Not even sure if I want to trade in this one, or keep it 
for my kids to use like an iTouch. 

I’m a bit nervous on the sim card stuff,  so I’ll call Apple and see what they 
say about activation fees.  

 

Robin

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Dennis Long
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 9:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

 

I agree.  It also gives you flexibility if you want to leave said carrier.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 11:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

 

If you are planning to pay full price for a phone why not buy an unlocked phone 
directly from Apple. Then all you have to do when you get it is put your 
existing SIM in it and go through the setup screen and you are done.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

 

If you are in the habit of buying Apple Care, it is $79.00 from Apple, or if 
you want Apple Care plus theft protection $149.00.

I’ve always purchased direct from Apple until my last phone when I had to buy 
from the carrier, Xfinity, because that was before they offered the program 
where you could bring a phone to them and get it set up with their service.

They didn’t offer Apple Care;; but their own warranty which was ridiculously 
expensive.

I went with Apple this time and since Xfinity wasn’t listed as one of the 
carriers they work with, I bought the no SIM model.

 

It is all down to personal preference.

 

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of R 
Van Lant
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

 

I’m ready to preorder the new SE 2020.  I can pay full price thanks to the 
stimulus check.  I’ve gotten my last two phones from Verizon, but wonder if 
there is a perk to buying from Apple directly.  The price appears the same.  
Verizon’s website says they’ll waive the activation fee if I buy online; maybe 
the same is true if I activate via Apple.  Verizon will unlock the phone after 
60 days.  Apple has helped me in the past when I locked myself out of my phone, 
even though I didn’t have Apple Care.  So, is there a reason to buy direct from 
Apple or is this just a preference thing?   

 

Robin – ready to retire my 6S

 

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RE: It was nice getting to know some of you

[Dennis Long]

Your not I will purchase the iPhone SE.

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I too enjoyed the impromptu meeting.  And, so nice to know I am not the only 
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RE: It was nice getting to know some of you

[Dennis Long]

I will be ordering the new SE as well.

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Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 9:56 PM
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Hello Kitty,

It was nice talking to you.

I was amazed at how many people prefer the smaller form factor devices.  Wow!  
I was truly in the minority, today, (big smile).

Mark

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I too enjoyed the impromptu meeting.  And, so nice to know I am not the only 
one who wants the small iphones.  Smile!!

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Mark thank you so much for having this idea and for putting it into action.  
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[Liel Ben Simonליאל בן סימון]

Hi, Thanks for the  meeting. i am very injoyed to talk to you and getting know 
to you bihind the voices I will be happy to join next wick, if it will be 
earlyer 2 hours it will be comftible to me, yesterday it was a litell late it 
was 12 AM, I am from Israel. 

נשלח מה-iPhone שלי

> ‫ב-19 באפר׳ 2020, בשעה 5:58, ‏‏Vivian Conger ‏ כתב/ה:‬
> 
> Mark,
> 
> Thanks for doing this.  I missed today's as I didn't check my email until 
> after the call.
> 
> Vivian and Sallie
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. 
> Taylor
> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 6:35 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: It was nice getting to know some of you
> 
> Hello Dennis,
> 
> I plan on purchasing a subscription later this weekend so I will probably 
> schedule another meeting next week.
> 
> What I think I will do is send a general meeting notification to the group, 
> first, then, about 10 minutes before the meeting is to start, I will send the 
> meeting link to the group.  This may cut down on any risk of encountering a 
> Zoom Bomb.
> 
> We will see.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Dennis Long
> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 2:52 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: It was nice getting to know some of you
> 
> When will the next one be?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. 
> Taylor
> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 5:43 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: It was nice getting to know some of you
> 
> Hi Gordon and Everyone,
> 
> That was great!
> 
> Thank you all for joining our meeting.  
> 
> I will definitely purchase a subscription so that we can have meetings 
> without a 40-minute time limit.  You guys are definitely worth it.
> 
> Perhaps we can pick a topic for each meeting or something.
> 
> Again, thank you all for calling in.
> 
> Mark
> 
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> I had to jump out of the meeting because I have some new furniture to unload. 
> It was nice talking with those of you who were able to come out and I hope we 
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[kitty hevener]

Yeah, kinda funny smile!!  Hmm, maybe apple needs to join our meetings.  Smile!!

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Hello Kitty,

It was nice talking to you.

I was amazed at how many people prefer the smaller form factor devices.  Wow!  
I was truly in the minority, today, (big smile).

Mark

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kitty hevener
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 4:43 PM
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I too enjoyed the impromptu meeting.  And, so nice to know I am not the only 
one who wants the small iphones.  Smile!!

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Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 6:09 PM
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Subject: Re: It was nice getting to know some of you

Mark thank you so much for having this idea and for putting it into action.  
Definitely added a surprise pleasure to my Saturday afternoon.

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[Vivian Conger]

Mark,

Thanks for doing this.  I missed today's as I didn't check my email until after 
the call.

Vivian and Sallie


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Subject: RE: It was nice getting to know some of you

Hello Dennis,

I plan on purchasing a subscription later this weekend so I will probably 
schedule another meeting next week.

What I think I will do is send a general meeting notification to the group, 
first, then, about 10 minutes before the meeting is to start, I will send the 
meeting link to the group.  This may cut down on any risk of encountering a 
Zoom Bomb.

We will see.

Mark

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Dennis Long
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 2:52 PM
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When will the next one be?

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Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 5:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: It was nice getting to know some of you

Hi Gordon and Everyone,

That was great!

Thank you all for joining our meeting.  

I will definitely purchase a subscription so that we can have meetings without 
a 40-minute time limit.  You guys are definitely worth it.

Perhaps we can pick a topic for each meeting or something.

Again, thank you all for calling in.

Mark

-Original Message-
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Gordon
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 2:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: It was nice getting to know some of you

I had to jump out of the meeting because I have some new furniture to unload. 
It was nice talking with those of you who were able to come out and I hope we 
do this again.

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RE: Ordered a new SE this morning

[kitty hevener]

Would still want touch id as an option.  Don't think the face id thing would 
work so well with a mask. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 9:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning

If Apple ever decided to make a 4.7 inch phone with an OLED screen and 
virtually no screen bezel as well as Face Id so that the home button wouldn't 
have to take up space at the bottom of the screen they could easily make such a 
phone in the size of an old 5S or the original SE. Of course whether this is 
going to happen is anybody's guess, don't think it is anything which we'll see 
in the next couple of years, but who knows what they'll do in 3 or 4 years.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 4:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning

Definitely, I don't think there'll ever be a phone that small again. I'm 
guessing that the new ones have 24 icons on the original home page, not 20 like 
the original SE phones. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dave
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 3:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Ordered a new SE this morning

You may find, any new phones after the new SE, will be bigger.
 
Dave.
 
 
From: kitty hevener 
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning
 

Thanks, I could not recall or find the size of the original se, the phone I 
currently have.  Since I don’t like the larger phones, I will definitely be 
sticking with what I have as long as I can.  You might recall that I purchased 
an se with more space not that long ago.  It was a mess getting the thing to 
work, but persistence, help from folks on this list, apple accessability desk, 
and geniuses at the apple bar, I succeeded.   

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 8:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning

 

First of all, Kitty, the new iPhone SE which was just released is the exact 
same size/format of the iPhon e 8 and that is equal to a 4.7 inch screen.

The original iPhone SE which was released in the spring of 2016 had for the 
most part the internals of the iPhone 6S which was released in the fall of 
2015, but it was actually a 4 inch phone like the old iPhone 5 and 5S from 2012 
and 2013.

As for iOS 14, I think it’s entirely possible that the iPhone 6S, 6S Plus and 
the original SE still get this year’s iOS release. After all, the iPhone 5S 
which was released in 2013 with iOS 7 preinstalled got all the upgrades 
including iOS 12 in 2018, only last fall did it not get iOS 13 any more. This 
means after the OS it shipped with it got 5 more iOS updartes, all the way from 
2013 to 2018 or 6 years.

The iPhone 6S/6S Plus and the original SE were all released with iOS 9 
preinstalled and so far they received iOS 10, 11, 12 and 13, that is one 
version less than the 5S.

My wife and I both also have the iPhone 8 and we will definitely not upgrade to 
this new iPhone SE just for the sake of going from 2 Gb to 3 Gb of RAM and from 
the A11 to the A13 processor. In real life you won’t notice that much of a 
difference and anybody who argues that on this new phone apps open faster, the 
app switcher come sup faster and so on should ask themselves how many seconds a 
day they’ll save and whether that is really worth it. Anybody who still has an 
iPhone 6 or even a 5S should probably upgrade, but I want to see what Apple 
comes up with this fall. I really want a phone with Face Id and 5G support, but 
unless there are some other compelling aspects I will probably wait until the 
fall of 2021.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Robin
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 1:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning

 

No one Knows ForSure if Apple's iPhoneSE 1stGeneration will Be Supported  by 
its Forthcomin' iOS14 Personally, I don't Think it will Be Supported

But with All of the Perceived Bugs & Flaws AssociatedWith Apple's iOS13, Apple 
may Support   the 1stGeneration SE
At 01:49 PM 4/17/2020, you wrote:

Richrd, thanks.   Wonder how long will be able to use my current se. 
 I hope at least another year or two.  
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 4:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

RE: Zoom meeting invitation - V iPhone Group, Let’s Talk via Zoo m

[Robin]

Yeah, I was  There, but couldn't Hear any of 
TheParticipants, WithTheExceptionOf,  Apple's 
VoiceOver announcing  Avators (I  Presume) of 
TheParticipants, who attended  & participated in Your ZoomMeetin'


You allowed  me access & admited me though

I've got to Try to FindOut what went  Wrong

Thanks
At 06:31 PM 4/18/2020, you wrote:

Hello Robin,

Sorry you encountered that issue.

We actually talked about the Verizon Wireless 
App issue, a bit, today, in your honor, as it were.


Mark

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Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 2:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Group, Let‬™s Talk via Zoo m
Was  In the Meetin', but couldn't Heaer anything 
Except Apple's VoiceOver, & Don't know what was 
wrong, as this isn't The1st time that  this 
TypeOfThing has happened to me when I  tried to  TuneIn to a  ZoomMeetin'

At 02:46 PM 4/18/2020, you wrote:
>Hello Marilyn,
>
>It was probably my fault that you could not enter the meeting as I was
>a bit overwhelmed with the number of people joining the meeting; you
>see, I had to manually admit each person to the group in order to
>prevent a Zoom Bomb.
>
>I think the next time I host a meeting, I will ask someone to be
>responsible for admitting people so I can focus on the conversation.
>
>Mark
>
>-Original Message-
>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marilyn Bland
>Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 2:36 PM
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>Subject: RE: Zoom meeting invitation - V iPhone Group, Let‬™s Talk via
>Zoom
>
>Mark,
>
>I tried to join, but could not get into the room.
>
>Not sure what I was doing wrong.
>
>Marilyn
>
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>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor
>Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 3:45 PM
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Zoom meeting invitation - V iPhone Group, Letâ€ââ„¢s Talk via
>Zoom
>
>Mark is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting.
>
>Topic: V iPhone Group, Let̢۪s Talk via Zoom
m
>Time: Apr 18, 2020 02:00 PM Pacific Time (US and Canada)
>
>Join Zoom Meeting
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RE: It was nice getting to know some of you

[M. Taylor]

Hello Kitty,

It was nice talking to you.

I was amazed at how many people prefer the smaller form factor devices.  Wow!  
I was truly in the minority, today, (big smile).

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
kitty hevener
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 4:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: It was nice getting to know some of you

I too enjoyed the impromptu meeting.  And, so nice to know I am not the only 
one who wants the small iphones.  Smile!!

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Joy Cyr
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 6:09 PM
To: iPhone List 
Subject: Re: It was nice getting to know some of you

Mark thank you so much for having this idea and for putting it into action.  
Definitely added a surprise pleasure to my Saturday afternoon.

Look forward to chatting with everyone again soon!  Thank you so much for being 
willing to buy the subscription!
Hope everyone enjoys a good evening/weekend.
Stay safe and well,
Joy


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RE: Zoom meeting invitation - V iPhone Group, Let’s Talk via Zoo m

[M. Taylor]

Hello Duane,

I will definitely be scheduling more meetings.  

As I understand it, after I purchase a subscription, I can then include call-in 
telephone numbers in the invitation.

I expect that we will schedule meetings as different times of the day, from 
time-to-time, so that everyone will have an opportunity to participate.

Please keep in mind, however, that these meetings will be extremely informal 
and will most likely take place when my schedule permits.  

More often than not, I suspect that there will be little more than a couple of 
hours notice before a scheduled meeting because, as we all know, life can 
sometimes get in the way (smile).

So, check back often.

Mark.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Duane Steele
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 3:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Zoom meeting invitation - V iPhone Group, Let’s Talk via Zoo m

I love Zoom, and have a regular account that I use for all kinds of meetings.  
I missed the meeting too.  Well, I got in for a short time but was told the 
host had not arrived.  The free version only gives us 40 minutes, and the paid 
version when used in conjunction with the Zoom APP is really great, and 
user-friendly with our iPhones.  Please schedule another meeting soon, and 
those of us on the east coast will enter zwe are able.  Also, include phone 
numbers so that people without zoom access in any other way may also join.  
Please schedule one again, soon, and give us adequate time to prepare to join.  
It's a great way to meet and learn things about our devices.
 

Peace & Blessings,
Pastor Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194

> On Apr 18, 2020, at 6:08 PM, Maria Reyes  wrote:
> 
> Did I miss the meeting? It's eastern time over here where I live.
> 
>>> On Apr 18, 2020, at 5:51 PM, Robin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Was  In the Meetin', but couldn't Heaer anything Except Apple's VoiceOver, 
>>> & Don't know what was wrong, as this isn't The1st time that  this 
>>> TypeOfThing has happened to me when I  tried to  TuneIn to a  ZoomMeetin'
>>> At 02:46 PM 4/18/2020, you wrote:
>>> Hello Marilyn,
>>> 
>>> It was probably my fault that you could not enter the meeting as I was a 
>>> bit overwhelmed with the number of people joining the meeting; you see, I 
>>> had to manually admit each person to the group in order to prevent a Zoom 
>>> Bomb.
>>> 
>>> I think the next time I host a meeting, I will ask someone to be 
>>> responsible for admitting people so I can focus on the conversation.
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Marilyn Bland
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 2:36 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Zoom meeting invitation - V iPhone Group, Let’s Talk via Zoom
>>> 
>>> Mark,
>>> 
>>> I tried to join, but could not get into the room.
>>> 
>>> Not sure what I was doing wrong.
>>> 
>>> Marilyn
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of M. Taylor
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 3:45 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Zoom meeting invitation - V iPhone Group, Let’s Talk via Zoom
>>> 
>>> Mark is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting.
>>> 
>>> Topic: V iPhone Group, Let’s Talk via Zoom
>>> Time: Apr 18, 2020 02:00 PM Pacific Time (US and Canada)
>>> 
>>> Join Zoom Meeting
>>> https://us04web.zoom.us/j/73808093761?pwd=Ly9YeWsvMWFabWM4S21wczVaUHB3Zz09
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RE: It was nice getting to know some of you

[M. Taylor]

You are quite welcome, Joy.

I was so surprised and delighted to see the number of people who joined our 
impromptu virtual get-together.

The experienced truly brightened my weekend.

Sincerely,

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Joy Cyr
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 3:09 PM
To: iPhone List
Subject: Re: It was nice getting to know some of you

Mark thank you so much for having this idea and for putting it into action.  
Definitely added a surprise pleasure to my Saturday afternoon.

Look forward to chatting with everyone again soon!  Thank you so much for being 
willing to buy the subscription!
Hope everyone enjoys a good evening/weekend.
Stay safe and well,
Joy


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RE: It was nice getting to know some of you

[M. Taylor]

Hello Dennis,

I plan on purchasing a subscription later this weekend so I will probably 
schedule another meeting next week.

What I think I will do is send a general meeting notification to the group, 
first, then, about 10 minutes before the meeting is to start, I will send the 
meeting link to the group.  This may cut down on any risk of encountering a 
Zoom Bomb.

We will see.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dennis Long
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 2:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: It was nice getting to know some of you

When will the next one be?

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 5:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: It was nice getting to know some of you

Hi Gordon and Everyone,

That was great!

Thank you all for joining our meeting.  

I will definitely purchase a subscription so that we can have meetings without 
a 40-minute time limit.  You guys are definitely worth it.

Perhaps we can pick a topic for each meeting or something.

Again, thank you all for calling in.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gordon
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 2:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: It was nice getting to know some of you

I had to jump out of the meeting because I have some new furniture to unload. 
It was nice talking with those of you who were able to come out and I hope we 
do this again.

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RE: Zoom meeting invitation - V iPhone Group, Let’s Talk via Zoo m

[M. Taylor]

Hello Robin,

Sorry you encountered that issue.  

We actually talked about the Verizon Wireless App issue, a bit, today, in your 
honor, as it were.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robin
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 2:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Zoom meeting invitation - V iPhone Group, Let’s Talk via Zoo m

Was  In the Meetin', but couldn't Heaer anything Except Apple's VoiceOver, & 
Don't know what was wrong, as this isn't The1st time that  this TypeOfThing has 
happened to me when I  tried to  TuneIn to a  ZoomMeetin'
At 02:46 PM 4/18/2020, you wrote:
>Hello Marilyn,
>
>It was probably my fault that you could not enter the meeting as I was 
>a bit overwhelmed with the number of people joining the meeting; you 
>see, I had to manually admit each person to the group in order to 
>prevent a Zoom Bomb.
>
>I think the next time I host a meeting, I will ask someone to be 
>responsible for admitting people so I can focus on the conversation.
>
>Mark
>
>-Original Message-
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>Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 2:36 PM
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>Subject: RE: Zoom meeting invitation - V iPhone Group, Let’s Talk via 
>Zoom
>
>Mark,
>
>I tried to join, but could not get into the room.
>
>Not sure what I was doing wrong.
>
>Marilyn
>
>-Original Message-
>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor
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>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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>Zoom
>
>Mark is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting.
>
>Topic: V iPhone Group, Let’s Talk via Zoom
>Time: Apr 18, 2020 02:00 PM Pacific Time (US and Canada)
>
>Join Zoom Meeting
>https://us04web.zoom.us/j/73808093761?pwd=Ly9YeWsvMWFabWM4S21wczVaUHB3Z
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Re: Problem to Locate the Participants List

[l . d . ethier23]

Hello,

When you are on your participants list, if you do tab, take a look on the more 
botton.  Probably, you'll find the option.

Lyne

> Le 18 avr. 2020 à 19:48, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> a écrit :
> 
> Our church has Go To Meeting, I guess as Apple is to Android, so Zoom is to 
> Go To Meeting. Anyway, with Go To Meeting, in addition to online, there is a 
> phone number to call, then access code to enter, then pound key, and if not 
> the originator, which I certainly am not, you just press pound again. He can 
> mute it or leave it open. It is pretty neat. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> dlng321.mob...@gmail.com
> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 6:21 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Problem to Locate the Participants List
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I am wondering any one have the same problem.
> 
> I am having problem to find the participants List or the waiting room list to 
> admit people in the meting. I pressed Alt U, according to the instruction, to 
> open the participants list. unfortunately it does not always work for me. I 
> am not sure what I need to do. 
> 
> I am using Brian Hartgen's pro script on windows 10 machine with Jaws 2020. 
> Many thanks in advance for your help.
> 
> Blessing,
> Danny 
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RE: Ordered a new SE this morning

[Sieghard Weitzel]

If Apple ever decided to make a 4.7 inch phone with an OLED screen and 
virtually no screen bezel as well as Face Id so that the home button wouldn't 
have to take up space at the bottom of the screen they could easily make such a 
phone in the size of an old 5S or the original SE. Of course whether this is 
going to happen is anybody's guess, don't think it is anything which we'll see 
in the next couple of years, but who knows what they'll do in 3 or 4 years.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 4:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning

Definitely, I don't think there'll ever be a phone that small again. I'm 
guessing that the new ones have 24 icons on the original home page, not 20 like 
the original SE phones. 

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Dave
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 3:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Ordered a new SE this morning

You may find, any new phones after the new SE, will be bigger.
 
Dave.
 
 
From: kitty hevener 
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning
 

Thanks, I could not recall or find the size of the original se, the phone I 
currently have.  Since I don’t like the larger phones, I will definitely be 
sticking with what I have as long as I can.  You might recall that I purchased 
an se with more space not that long ago.  It was a mess getting the thing to 
work, but persistence, help from folks on this list, apple accessability desk, 
and geniuses at the apple bar, I succeeded.   

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 8:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning

 

First of all, Kitty, the new iPhone SE which was just released is the exact 
same size/format of the iPhon e 8 and that is equal to a 4.7 inch screen.

The original iPhone SE which was released in the spring of 2016 had for the 
most part the internals of the iPhone 6S which was released in the fall of 
2015, but it was actually a 4 inch phone like the old iPhone 5 and 5S from 2012 
and 2013.

As for iOS 14, I think it’s entirely possible that the iPhone 6S, 6S Plus and 
the original SE still get this year’s iOS release. After all, the iPhone 5S 
which was released in 2013 with iOS 7 preinstalled got all the upgrades 
including iOS 12 in 2018, only last fall did it not get iOS 13 any more. This 
means after the OS it shipped with it got 5 more iOS updartes, all the way from 
2013 to 2018 or 6 years.

The iPhone 6S/6S Plus and the original SE were all released with iOS 9 
preinstalled and so far they received iOS 10, 11, 12 and 13, that is one 
version less than the 5S.

My wife and I both also have the iPhone 8 and we will definitely not upgrade to 
this new iPhone SE just for the sake of going from 2 Gb to 3 Gb of RAM and from 
the A11 to the A13 processor. In real life you won’t notice that much of a 
difference and anybody who argues that on this new phone apps open faster, the 
app switcher come sup faster and so on should ask themselves how many seconds a 
day they’ll save and whether that is really worth it. Anybody who still has an 
iPhone 6 or even a 5S should probably upgrade, but I want to see what Apple 
comes up with this fall. I really want a phone with Face Id and 5G support, but 
unless there are some other compelling aspects I will probably wait until the 
fall of 2021.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Robin
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 1:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning

 

No one Knows ForSure if Apple's iPhoneSE 1stGeneration will Be Supported  by 
its Forthcomin' iOS14 Personally, I don't Think it will Be Supported

But with All of the Perceived Bugs & Flaws AssociatedWith Apple's iOS13, Apple 
may Support   the 1stGeneration SE
At 01:49 PM 4/17/2020, you wrote:

Richrd, thanks.   Wonder how long will be able to use my current se. 
 I hope at least another year or two.  
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 4:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Ordered a new SE this morning
 
It is not the same size as the old one. 
It is more the size of the standard iPhone 8.
So current cases will not fit it.
 
The old SE is worth $30 in trade.
I plan to use my old one as a music and book player as a WiFi only 

SIM cards.

[Carolyn]

Is there one corner cut or some way to know which way is up
on one? And where is it on the phone that one is inserted? 

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RE: Problem to Locate the Participants List

[Carolyn]

Our church has Go To Meeting, I guess as Apple is to Android, so Zoom is to Go 
To Meeting. Anyway, with Go To Meeting, in addition to online, there is a phone 
number to call, then access code to enter, then pound key, and if not the 
originator, which I certainly am not, you just press pound again. He can mute 
it or leave it open. It is pretty neat. 

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dlng321.mob...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 6:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Problem to Locate the Participants List


Hi all,

I am wondering any one have the same problem.

I am having problem to find the participants List or the waiting room list to 
admit people in the meting. I pressed Alt U, according to the instruction, to 
open the participants list. unfortunately it does not always work for me. I am 
not sure what I need to do. 

I am using Brian Hartgen's pro script on windows 10 machine with Jaws 2020. 
Many thanks in advance for your help.

Blessing,
Danny 

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RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

[Richard Turner]

Each carrier is different.  Some charge some don't.
Verizon for example, if you deal with a kiosk or "retail" store, they can 
charge as much as $20; but the Verizon Corporate stores charge nothing.

 


Richard
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 4:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

I thought there must be a charge for them. I think that was what the first ten 
dollars on my original SE, and the phone actually was $150, but I always said 
$160, because of that ten dollars going in. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 3:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

Hi, 
it depends. Some carriers charge $10 for a SIM card plus an activation fee 
which is usually like $40.


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> On Apr 18, 2020, at 11:32 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> How much does a SIM card usually cost? 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Dennis Long
> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 1:36 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?
> 
> Also if you don’t store your contacts on your sim you should be fine.  It 
> won’t slow your phone down.  All it is used for is how to tell the phone to 
> talk to the towers.
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Peter 
> Logan
> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 1:30 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?
> 
> 
> 
> You should be fine .. worst case if what you have doesn’t work, then you can 
> get a new one after the fact ..
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
> Dennis Long
> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 1:13 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?
> 
> 
> 
> How will this make a difference?  My sim is less than a year old.  I don’t 
> see how it will make a difference.
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
> Mike B.
> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 1:01 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?
> 
> 
> 
> According to an earlier post it's not beneficial to use your old SIM card 
> because it'll hinder the performance of the new SE model.
> 
> 
> 
> Technically, the SE first generation and second generation take the same size 
> SIM card. 
> However, the new SIM cards are much faster, so Apple recommends getting a new 
> SIM card with the new phone.
> I was told by an Apple staff person that I could set up the new phone with 
> the old SE SIM, but should then get a new SIM card as the performance will be 
> much better.
> 
> 
> Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
> *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it 
> cleans the toilet. 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> 
> From: Sieghard Weitzel   
> 
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com   
> 
> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 8:05 AM
> 
> Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?
> 
> 
> 
> If you are planning to pay full price for a phone why not buy an unlocked 
> phone directly from Apple. Then all you have to do when you get it is put 
> your existing SIM in it and go through the setup screen and you are done.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, 

Re: What SIM Card is used by second generation iPhone SE was RE: Apple Newsroom: iPhone SE: A powerful new smartphone in a popular design

[Dave]

Yes you can.

and it's pretty easy to put in a sim card.

You just have to be careful, that you don't drop it, as they are quite 
small.


I usually change mine, over a tray, or box lid. Then if i drop it, it 
doesn't end up on the floor.


Dave.


-Original Message- 
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Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 10:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What SIM Card is used by second generation iPhone SE was RE: 
Apple Newsroom: iPhone SE: A powerful new smartphone in a popular design


Hi all

Whilst we are on the subject of SIM cards, I have a question. I currently 
own an IPhone 8, but am considering ordering a new IPhone SE. So would I 
simply be able to swap my IPhone 8 SIM card directly into my new IPhone when 
it comes? If so, how easy would this be to do for someone with no sight?


Also, when it comes to setting up the new phone when I first get it, how can 
I ensure that voiceover is on from the word go to help me with the set-up??, 
otherwise, frankly, I’m stuffed as I can’t see the screen at all.


Any idiot-proof instructions on both counts really would be greatly 
appreciated.


Many thanks for any help anyone can give.

Eleanor

Sent from my iPhone


On 18 Apr 2020, at 12:50, Dave  wrote:

Hi Simon. It's just an E-Sim, and a Nano Sim.

Dave.


-Original Message- From: Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 9:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What SIM Card is used by second generation iPhone SE was RE: 
Apple Newsroom: iPhone SE: A powerful new smartphone in a popular design


If I read the apple specs correctly it has a nano sim plus e sim and I 
think it said a second physical sim option as well.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly

Sent: Saturday, 18 April 2020 4:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: What SIM Card is used by second generation iPhone SE was RE: 
Apple Newsroom: iPhone SE: A powerful new smartphone in a popular design


Richard,

The following article says the original iPhone SE used a nano SIM card and 
I be very surprised if the second generation SE didn't use a nano SIM as 
well:


https://www.whistleout.com/CellPhones/Faqs/228234328-What-size-SIM-card-does-an-iPhone-SE-use-

But let us know if you find out anything different.

Alan Lemly

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Richard Turner

Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 8:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Newsroom: iPhone SE: A powerful new smartphone in a 
popular design


The New SE nor the old SE can take memory cards directly.
From what I read, the New SE also uses a different SIM card, but I plan to 
check that out for sure with Apple.
The memory card that I mentioned is with a separate adapter that plugs 
into the lightning port and allows you to use external memory cards.




Richard
"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, 
Oregon.



-Original Message-
From: 'Husna Begum' via VIPhone 
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 6:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Newsroom: iPhone SE: A powerful new smartphone in a 
popular design


hi,

can you use any memory card then? and is a slot available to put the 
memory card into either in the old SE or the new SE?


thanks


-Original Message-
From: Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 3:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Newsroom: iPhone SE: A powerful new smartphone in a 
popular design


And, since iOS 13, you can use a $30 adaptor to access external memory 
cards.




Richard
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Oregon.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Wayne Merritt

Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 6:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Newsroom: iPhone SE: A powerful new smartphone in a 
popular design


My 2 cents: If you don't have a good reason for getting 256 gigs of 
storage, save some money and don't do it. I had an iPhone with 256 gigs 
storage and for most of the year I had the phone, I didn't store more than 
50 gigs. I'm sticking to the 128 gig storage phones, unless I suddenly 
come across a huge need for more storage. 128 suits me fine though, since 
about half is taken up with music, books, and apps, and I've got lots of 
storage to go before getting close to filling up my phone.


Respectfully,
Wayne Merritt


On 4/16/20, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
Wait for the questions of how much does my phone have!

Good answer.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, 16 April 2020 11:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Newsroom: iPhone SE: A powerful new smartphone in a
popular design

The iPhone 6S/6S Plus, the original SE, the 7/7 Plus and the 8/8 Plus
all have 2 Gb of RAM. The original iPhone X which was released in 2017

RE: It was nice getting to know some of you

[kitty hevener]

I too enjoyed the impromptu meeting.  And, so nice to know I am not the only 
one who wants the small iphones.  Smile!!

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Subject: Re: It was nice getting to know some of you

Mark thank you so much for having this idea and for putting it into action.  
Definitely added a surprise pleasure to my Saturday afternoon.

Look forward to chatting with everyone again soon!  Thank you so much for being 
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RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

[Carolyn]

Consumer Cellular offered no trade in for my SE. I didn't think to ask Ray 
about it with AT, and he didn't offer it. I fault myself for not asking 
though. 

-Original Message-
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Van Lant
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 4:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

>From another thread on this list, it sounds like putting the sim card for my 
>current phone into a new one could degrade the service.  I’m on a 6S now and 
>am looking forward to all the new speed I can get from the SE.   

I’m on the Verizon site now and one caveat I see to buying from there is that 
they say the trade in for my current phone is only $35, whereas Apple will give 
me $80. If Verizon waives the activation fee, which I think a store sales 
person recently told me is $40, that balances out with the savings I would get 
direct from Apple.  Not even sure if I want to trade in this one, or keep it 
for my kids to use like an iTouch. 

I’m a bit nervous on the sim card stuff,  so I’ll call Apple and see what they 
say about activation fees.  

 

Robin

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 9:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

 

I agree.  It also gives you flexibility if you want to leave said carrier.

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 11:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

 

If you are planning to pay full price for a phone why not buy an unlocked phone 
directly from Apple. Then all you have to do when you get it is put your 
existing SIM in it and go through the setup screen and you are done.

 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

 

If you are in the habit of buying Apple Care, it is $79.00 from Apple, or if 
you want Apple Care plus theft protection $149.00.

I’ve always purchased direct from Apple until my last phone when I had to buy 
from the carrier, Xfinity, because that was before they offered the program 
where you could bring a phone to them and get it set up with their service.

They didn’t offer Apple Care;; but their own warranty which was ridiculously 
expensive.

I went with Apple this time and since Xfinity wasn’t listed as one of the 
carriers they work with, I bought the no SIM model.

 

It is all down to personal preference.

 

 

Richard

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of R 
Van Lant
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

 

I’m ready to preorder the new SE 2020.  I can pay full price thanks to the 
stimulus check.  I’ve gotten my last two phones from Verizon, but wonder if 
there is a perk to buying from Apple directly.  The price appears the same.  
Verizon’s website says they’ll waive the activation fee if I buy online; maybe 
the same is true if I activate via Apple.  Verizon will unlock the phone after 
60 days.  Apple has helped me in the past when I locked myself out of my phone, 
even though I didn’t have Apple Care.  So, is there a reason to buy direct from 
Apple or is this just a preference thing?   

 

Robin – ready to retire my 6S

 

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RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

[Carolyn]

I suppose AT phones are locked? I didn't think to ask. 

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Dennis Long
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 4:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

No your not correct.  See this
In order to mitigate theft and other fraudulent activity, newly purchased 
devices are “locked” to work exclusively on the Verizon network.  We have 
separate device unlocking policies that cover postpay and prepaid devices, as 
well as special rules for deployed military personnel.

“Unlocking” a device refers only to disabling software that would prevent a 
consumer from attempting to activate a device designed for one carrier’s 
network on another carrier’s network. Due to differing technologies, an 
unlocked Verizon Wireless device may not work – or may experience limited 
functionality – on another carrier’s network.

Postpay Device Unlocking Policy
Devices that you purchase from Verizon are locked for 60 days after purchase.   
Devices that you purchase from our retail partners are locked for 60 days after 
activation.  After 60 days, we will automatically remove the lock. Following 
the 60 day lock period, we do not lock our phones at any time. 

Prepaid Device Unlocking Policy
Devices that you purchase from Verizon and certain devices purchased from our 
retail partners are locked for 60 days after activation. After 60 days, we will 
automatically remove the lock. Following the 60 day lock period following 
device purchase, we do not lock our phones at any time. 
link below. 
https://www.verizon.com/about/consumer-safety/device-unlocking-policy  


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robin
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 3:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

All of Apple's iPhones
on  VZW'sNetwork  (VerizonWireless) are UnLock'd From TheGetGo

At 12:17 PM 4/18/2020, you wrote:
>I would buy it unlocked from Apple, then it's one less thing to deal 
>with if you ever want to switch carriers. I would get the phone from 
>Apple and then insert your Verizon sim card, I would think everything 
>would work at that point.
>
> > On Apr 18, 2020, at 9:07 AM, R Van Lant  wrote:
> >
> > I’m ready to preorder the new SE 2020.  I
> can pay full price thanks to the stimulus check.  I’ve gotten my 
> last two phones from Verizon, but wonder if there is a perk to buying 
> from Apple directly.  The price appears the same.  Verizon’s website 
> says they’ll waive the activation fee if I buy online; maybe the 
> same is true if I activate via Apple.  Verizon will unlock the phone 
> after 60 days.  Apple has helped me in the past when I locked myself 
> out of my phone, even though I didn’t have Apple Care.  So, is there 
> a reason to buy direct from Apple or is this just a preference thing?
> >
> > Robin ­ ready to retire my 6S
> >
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RE: Ordered a new SE this morning

[Carolyn]

Definitely, I don't think there'll ever be a phone that small again. I'm 
guessing that the new ones have 24 icons on the original home page, not 20 like 
the original SE phones. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dave
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 3:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Ordered a new SE this morning

You may find, any new phones after the new SE, will be bigger.
 
Dave.
 
 
From: kitty hevener 
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning
 

Thanks, I could not recall or find the size of the original se, the phone I 
currently have.  Since I don’t like the larger phones, I will definitely be 
sticking with what I have as long as I can.  You might recall that I purchased 
an se with more space not that long ago.  It was a mess getting the thing to 
work, but persistence, help from folks on this list, apple accessability desk, 
and geniuses at the apple bar, I succeeded.   

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 8:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning

 

First of all, Kitty, the new iPhone SE which was just released is the exact 
same size/format of the iPhon e 8 and that is equal to a 4.7 inch screen.

The original iPhone SE which was released in the spring of 2016 had for the 
most part the internals of the iPhone 6S which was released in the fall of 
2015, but it was actually a 4 inch phone like the old iPhone 5 and 5S from 2012 
and 2013.

As for iOS 14, I think it’s entirely possible that the iPhone 6S, 6S Plus and 
the original SE still get this year’s iOS release. After all, the iPhone 5S 
which was released in 2013 with iOS 7 preinstalled got all the upgrades 
including iOS 12 in 2018, only last fall did it not get iOS 13 any more. This 
means after the OS it shipped with it got 5 more iOS updartes, all the way from 
2013 to 2018 or 6 years.

The iPhone 6S/6S Plus and the original SE were all released with iOS 9 
preinstalled and so far they received iOS 10, 11, 12 and 13, that is one 
version less than the 5S.

My wife and I both also have the iPhone 8 and we will definitely not upgrade to 
this new iPhone SE just for the sake of going from 2 Gb to 3 Gb of RAM and from 
the A11 to the A13 processor. In real life you won’t notice that much of a 
difference and anybody who argues that on this new phone apps open faster, the 
app switcher come sup faster and so on should ask themselves how many seconds a 
day they’ll save and whether that is really worth it. Anybody who still has an 
iPhone 6 or even a 5S should probably upgrade, but I want to see what Apple 
comes up with this fall. I really want a phone with Face Id and 5G support, but 
unless there are some other compelling aspects I will probably wait until the 
fall of 2021.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Robin
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 1:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning

 

No one Knows ForSure if Apple's iPhoneSE 1stGeneration will Be Supported  by 
its Forthcomin' iOS14 Personally, I don't Think it will Be Supported

But with All of the Perceived Bugs & Flaws AssociatedWith Apple's iOS13, Apple 
may Support   the 1stGeneration SE
At 01:49 PM 4/17/2020, you wrote:

Richrd, thanks.   Wonder how long will be able to use my current se. 
 I hope at least another year or two.  
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 4:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Ordered a new SE this morning
 
It is not the same size as the old one. 
It is more the size of the standard iPhone 8.
So current cases will not fit it.
 
The old SE is worth $30 in trade.
I plan to use my old one as a music and book player as a WiFi only 
device.
 
 
(Sent from my iPhone SE)
C

 

On Apr 17, 2020, at 12:52 PM, kitty hevener mailto:kheve...@earthlink.net>  > wrote:

 

For clarification, is the new SE the same size as the old one?  Has 
anyone tried trading in the old se for the new one?  Any luck?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Fazil

Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 2:48 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com  

Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning

 

 

Re: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

[Feliciano Godoy]

SIM card has nothing to do with iPhone speed. SIM card is for service.

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On Apr 18, 2020, at 1:38 PM, R Van Lant  wrote:


>From another thread on this list, it sounds like putting the sim card for my 
>current phone into a new one could degrade the service.  I’m on a 6S now and 
>am looking forward to all the new speed I can get from the SE.
I’m on the Verizon site now and one caveat I see to buying from there is that 
they say the trade in for my current phone is only $35, whereas Apple will give 
me $80. If Verizon waives the activation fee, which I think a store sales 
person recently told me is $40, that balances out with the savings I would get 
direct from Apple.  Not even sure if I want to trade in this one, or keep it 
for my kids to use like an iTouch.
I’m a bit nervous on the sim card stuff,  so I’ll call Apple and see what they 
say about activation fees.

Robin



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 9:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

I agree.  It also gives you flexibility if you want to leave said carrier.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 11:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

If you are planning to pay full price for a phone why not buy an unlocked phone 
directly from Apple. Then all you have to do when you get it is put your 
existing SIM in it and go through the setup screen and you are done.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

If you are in the habit of buying Apple Care, it is $79.00 from Apple, or if 
you want Apple Care plus theft protection $149.00.
I’ve always purchased direct from Apple until my last phone when I had to buy 
from the carrier, Xfinity, because that was before they offered the program 
where you could bring a phone to them and get it set up with their service.
They didn’t offer Apple Care;; but their own warranty which was ridiculously 
expensive.
I went with Apple this time and since Xfinity wasn’t listed as one of the 
carriers they work with, I bought the no SIM model.

It is all down to personal preference.


Richard
"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of R Van 
Lant
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

I’m ready to preorder the new SE 2020.  I can pay full price thanks to the 
stimulus check.  I’ve gotten my last two phones from Verizon, but wonder if 
there is a perk to buying from Apple directly.  The price appears the same.  
Verizon’s website says they’ll waive the activation fee if I buy online; maybe 
the same is true if I activate via Apple.  Verizon will unlock the phone after 
60 days.  Apple has helped me in the past when I locked myself out of my phone, 
even though I didn’t have Apple Care.  So, is there a reason to buy direct from 
Apple or is this just a preference thing?

Robin – ready to retire my 6S

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RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

[Carolyn]

I thought there must be a charge for them. I think that was what the first ten 
dollars on my original SE, and the phone actually was $150, but I always said 
$160, because of that ten dollars going in. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 3:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

Hi, 
it depends. Some carriers charge $10 for a SIM card plus an activation fee 
which is usually like $40.


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> On Apr 18, 2020, at 11:32 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> How much does a SIM card usually cost? 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Dennis Long
> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 1:36 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?
> 
> Also if you don’t store your contacts on your sim you should be fine.  It 
> won’t slow your phone down.  All it is used for is how to tell the phone to 
> talk to the towers.
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Peter 
> Logan
> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 1:30 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?
> 
> 
> 
> You should be fine .. worst case if what you have doesn’t work, then you can 
> get a new one after the fact ..
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
> Dennis Long
> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 1:13 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?
> 
> 
> 
> How will this make a difference?  My sim is less than a year old.  I don’t 
> see how it will make a difference.
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
> Mike B.
> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 1:01 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?
> 
> 
> 
> According to an earlier post it's not beneficial to use your old SIM card 
> because it'll hinder the performance of the new SE model.
> 
> 
> 
> Technically, the SE first generation and second generation take the same size 
> SIM card. 
> However, the new SIM cards are much faster, so Apple recommends getting a new 
> SIM card with the new phone.
> I was told by an Apple staff person that I could set up the new phone with 
> the old SE SIM, but should then get a new SIM card as the performance will be 
> much better.
> 
> 
> Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
> *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it 
> cleans the toilet. 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> 
> From: Sieghard Weitzel   
> 
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com   
> 
> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 8:05 AM
> 
> Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?
> 
> 
> 
> If you are planning to pay full price for a phone why not buy an unlocked 
> phone directly from Apple. Then all you have to do when you get it is put 
> your existing SIM in it and go through the setup screen and you are done.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:33 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?
> 
> 
> 
> If you are in the habit of buying Apple Care, it is $79.00 from Apple, or if 
> you want Apple Care plus theft protection $149.00.
> 
> I’ve always purchased direct from Apple until my last phone when I had to buy 
> from the carrier, Xfinity, because that was before they offered the program 
> where you could bring a phone to them and get it set up with their service.
> 
> They didn’t offer Apple Care;; but their own warranty which was ridiculously 
> expensive.
> 
> I went with Apple this time and since Xfinity wasn’t listed as one of the 
> carriers they work with, I bought the no SIM model.
> 
> 
> 
> It is all down to personal preference.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of R 
> Van Lant
> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:07 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?
> 
> 
> 
> I’m 

Re: Apple Music question?

[Michael Feir]

Hi Malcolm. iOS13 has a number of VoiceOver jumping and focus issues to
contend with. This is one of them. The only way to get to most of the
contents in that tab is to use the vertical scroll bar over on the right
side of the screen to move up or down to the verious areas. For instance,
to get at the new rleases heading, I go down to 100 percent, flick over to
the left, and then flick up with the rotor set to headings so I get to the
start of the heading. I can then flick right through the contents.
Sometimes, it's useful to double tap the "see all" button to get into the
full contents of the area you're interested in. It's easy to miss out on
stuff since VoiceOver doesn't behave as it should. Hope things improve in
iOS14. I've pretty much given up on these issues being dealt with sooner
than that. I'd be ecstatic if they fixed the misspellt words rotor
function. Best of luck to you Malcolm.

On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 7:08 PM Malcolm Parfitt 
wrote:

> Hello friends,
>
> I hope I find you all well in these anxious times!
>
> Has anyone experienced problems in the For You tab of Apple Music?
>
> I am an Apple Music subscriber and looking through the For You section
> when I double-tap an album nothing appears to happen.  It is not that the
> album is unavailable as if I select other albums and then return to my
> original choice it works as expected.
>
> Another problem is when swiping through albums in the For You tab focus is
> often lost when swiping through albums results in moving to another section
> denoted by moving into another headed section, say Classical to Pop.  You
> have to swipe back and fore several times before you can continue to browse
> through the list.
>
> Malcolm
>
>
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Apple Music question?

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Hello friends,

I hope I find you all well in these anxious times!

Has anyone experienced problems in the For You tab of Apple Music?

I am an Apple Music subscriber and looking through the For You section when I 
double-tap an album nothing appears to happen.  It is not that the album is 
unavailable as if I select other albums and then return to my original choice 
it works as expected.

Another problem is when swiping through albums in the For You tab focus is 
often lost when swiping through albums results in moving to another section 
denoted by moving into another headed section, say Classical to Pop.  You have 
to swipe back and fore several times before you can continue to browse through 
the list.

Malcolm


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Re: Zoom meeting invitation - V iPhone Group, Let’s Talk via Zoo m

[l . d . ethier23]

Hello Mark,

it's more difficult when using the waiting room because you have to manually 
pick up each person at the same time.

Lyne

> Le 18 avr. 2020 à 18:28, Duane Steele  a écrit :
> 
> I love Zoom, and have a regular account that I use for all kinds of meetings. 
>  I missed the meeting too.  Well, I got in for a short time but was told the 
> host had not arrived.  The free version only gives us 40 minutes, and the 
> paid version when used in conjunction with the Zoom APP is really great, and 
> user-friendly with our iPhones.  Please schedule another meeting soon, and 
> those of us on the east coast will enter zwe are able.  Also, include phone 
> numbers so that people without zoom access in any other way may also join.  
> Please schedule one again, soon, and give us adequate time to prepare to 
> join.  It's a great way to meet and learn things about our devices.
> 
> 
> Peace & Blessings,
> Pastor Duane L. Steele
> Phone (276) 730-5194
> 
>> On Apr 18, 2020, at 6:08 PM, Maria Reyes  wrote:
>> 
>> Did I miss the meeting? It's eastern time over here where I live.
>> 
 On Apr 18, 2020, at 5:51 PM, Robin  wrote:
 
 Was  In the Meetin', but couldn't Heaer anything Except Apple's 
 VoiceOver, & Don't know what was wrong, as this isn't The1st time that  
 this TypeOfThing has happened to me when I  tried to  TuneIn to a  
 ZoomMeetin'
 At 02:46 PM 4/18/2020, you wrote:
 Hello Marilyn,
 
 It was probably my fault that you could not enter the meeting as I was a 
 bit overwhelmed with the number of people joining the meeting; you see, I 
 had to manually admit each person to the group in order to prevent a Zoom 
 Bomb.
 
 I think the next time I host a meeting, I will ask someone to be 
 responsible for admitting people so I can focus on the conversation.
 
 Mark
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Marilyn Bland
 Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 2:36 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Zoom meeting invitation - V iPhone Group, Let’s Talk via 
 Zoom
 
 Mark,
 
 I tried to join, but could not get into the room.
 
 Not sure what I was doing wrong.
 
 Marilyn
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of M. Taylor
 Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 3:45 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Zoom meeting invitation - V iPhone Group, Let’s Talk via Zoom
 
 Mark is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting.
 
 Topic: V iPhone Group, Let’s Talk via Zoom
 Time: Apr 18, 2020 02:00 PM Pacific Time (US and Canada)
 
 Join Zoom Meeting
 https://us04web.zoom.us/j/73808093761?pwd=Ly9YeWsvMWFabWM4S21wczVaUHB3Zz09
 
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Re: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

[Candy Lowe]

I have always purchased my phones from apple, but my next phone may be 
different only because I have device dollars through verizon up.  I am waiting 
on the 12, and should have 40 or 50 dollars by then.  

Sent from my iPhone 8 

> On Apr 18, 2020, at 3:39 PM, Peter Logan  wrote:
> 
> 
> You might also see if you have any device $ from Verizon which will help 
> offset the cost ..
>  
> If
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of R Van 
> Lant
> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 4:38 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?
>  
> From another thread on this list, it sounds like putting the sim card for my 
> current phone into a new one could degrade the service.  I’m on a 6S now and 
> am looking forward to all the new speed I can get from the SE.  
> I’m on the Verizon site now and one caveat I see to buying from there is that 
> they say the trade in for my current phone is only $35, whereas Apple will 
> give me $80. If Verizon waives the activation fee, which I think a store 
> sales person recently told me is $40, that balances out with the savings I 
> would get direct from Apple.  Not even sure if I want to trade in this one, 
> or keep it for my kids to use like an iTouch.
> I’m a bit nervous on the sim card stuff,  so I’ll call Apple and see what 
> they say about activation fees. 
>  
> Robin
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
> Long
> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 9:27 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?
>  
> I agree.  It also gives you flexibility if you want to leave said carrier.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 11:06 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?
>  
> If you are planning to pay full price for a phone why not buy an unlocked 
> phone directly from Apple. Then all you have to do when you get it is put 
> your existing SIM in it and go through the setup screen and you are done.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:33 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?
>  
> If you are in the habit of buying Apple Care, it is $79.00 from Apple, or if 
> you want Apple Care plus theft protection $149.00.
> I’ve always purchased direct from Apple until my last phone when I had to buy 
> from the carrier, Xfinity, because that was before they offered the program 
> where you could bring a phone to them and get it set up with their service.
> They didn’t offer Apple Care;; but their own warranty which was ridiculously 
> expensive.
> I went with Apple this time and since Xfinity wasn’t listed as one of the 
> carriers they work with, I bought the no SIM model.
>  
> It is all down to personal preference.
>  
>  
> Richard
> "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of R Van 
> Lant
> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:07 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?
>  
> I’m ready to preorder the new SE 2020.  I can pay full price thanks to the 
> stimulus check.  I’ve gotten my last two phones from Verizon, but wonder if 
> there is a perk to buying from Apple directly.  The price appears the same.  
> Verizon’s website says they’ll waive the activation fee if I buy online; 
> maybe the same is true if I activate via Apple.  Verizon will unlock the 
> phone after 60 days.  Apple has helped me in the past when I locked myself 
> out of my phone, even though I didn’t have Apple Care.  So, is there a reason 
> to buy direct from Apple or is this just a preference thing?   
>  
> Robin – ready to retire my 6S
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Re: Zoom meeting invitation - V iPhone Group, Let’s Talk via Zoo m

[Duane Steele]

I love Zoom, and have a regular account that I use for all kinds of meetings.  
I missed the meeting too.  Well, I got in for a short time but was told the 
host had not arrived.  The free version only gives us 40 minutes, and the paid 
version when used in conjunction with the Zoom APP is really great, and 
user-friendly with our iPhones.  Please schedule another meeting soon, and 
those of us on the east coast will enter zwe are able.  Also, include phone 
numbers so that people without zoom access in any other way may also join.  
Please schedule one again, soon, and give us adequate time to prepare to join.  
It's a great way to meet and learn things about our devices.
 

Peace & Blessings,
Pastor Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194

> On Apr 18, 2020, at 6:08 PM, Maria Reyes  wrote:
> 
> Did I miss the meeting? It's eastern time over here where I live.
> 
>>> On Apr 18, 2020, at 5:51 PM, Robin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Was  In the Meetin', but couldn't Heaer anything Except Apple's VoiceOver, 
>>> & Don't know what was wrong, as this isn't The1st time that  this 
>>> TypeOfThing has happened to me when I  tried to  TuneIn to a  ZoomMeetin'
>>> At 02:46 PM 4/18/2020, you wrote:
>>> Hello Marilyn,
>>> 
>>> It was probably my fault that you could not enter the meeting as I was a 
>>> bit overwhelmed with the number of people joining the meeting; you see, I 
>>> had to manually admit each person to the group in order to prevent a Zoom 
>>> Bomb.
>>> 
>>> I think the next time I host a meeting, I will ask someone to be 
>>> responsible for admitting people so I can focus on the conversation.
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Marilyn Bland
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 2:36 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Zoom meeting invitation - V iPhone Group, Let’s Talk via Zoom
>>> 
>>> Mark,
>>> 
>>> I tried to join, but could not get into the room.
>>> 
>>> Not sure what I was doing wrong.
>>> 
>>> Marilyn
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of M. Taylor
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 3:45 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Zoom meeting invitation - V iPhone Group, Let’s Talk via Zoom
>>> 
>>> Mark is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting.
>>> 
>>> Topic: V iPhone Group, Let’s Talk via Zoom
>>> Time: Apr 18, 2020 02:00 PM Pacific Time (US and Canada)
>>> 
>>> Join Zoom Meeting
>>> https://us04web.zoom.us/j/73808093761?pwd=Ly9YeWsvMWFabWM4S21wczVaUHB3Zz09
>>> 
>>> Meeting ID: 738 0809 3761
>>> Password: 5PkK79
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Problem to Locate the Participants List

[dlng321.mobile]

Hi all,

I am wondering any one have the same problem.

I am having problem to find the participants List or the waiting room list to 
admit people in the meting. I pressed Alt U, according to the instruction, to 
open the participants list. unfortunately it does not always work for me. I am 
not sure what I need to do. 

I am using Brian Hartgen's pro script on windows 10 machine with Jaws 2020. 
Many thanks in advance for your help.

Blessing,
Danny 

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RE: the poop from Apple about the new SE sim card

[Richard Turner]

Hi Alan,
Yeah, I have no idea either.
I’ll check with Xfinity and see what they say.
I will report back either way.

Richard
“Damn the torpedo’s, full speed ahead!” Admiral David Glasgow Farragut 
(1801-1870)

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 3:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the poop from Apple about the new SE sim card

Richard,

I don't pretend to understand the ins and outs of SIM cards but I thought their 
primary purpose was to hold your carrier account info and settings. I wouldn't 
think that would have much effect on the speed of your device but if you 
replace your original SE's SIM  card in your second generation SE, maybe you 
could report back if you notice a difference between the two SIMs.

Alan Lemly

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 4:56 AM
To: ViPone list
Subject: the poop from Apple about the new SE sim card

Technically, the SE first generation and second generation take the same size 
SIM card.
However, the new SIM cards are much faster, so Apple recommends getting a new 
SIM card with the new phone.
I was told by an Apple staff person that I could set up the new phone with the 
old SE SIM, but should then get a new SIM card as the performance will be much 
better.
And, the new SE is a Dual SIM phone; as in one physical SIM and one eSIM just 
like the 11 and xs/xr phones if your carrier supports the eSIM.

Richard

(Sent from my iPhone SE)
C


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Re: It was nice getting to know some of you

[Joy Cyr]

Mark thank you so much for having this idea and for putting it into action.  
Definitely added a surprise pleasure to my Saturday afternoon.

Look forward to chatting with everyone again soon!  Thank you so much for being 
willing to buy the subscription!
Hope everyone enjoys a good evening/weekend.
Stay safe and well,
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Re: Zoom meeting invitation - V iPhone Group, Let’s Talk via Zoo m

[Maria Reyes]

Did I miss the meeting? It's eastern time over here where I live.

> On Apr 18, 2020, at 5:51 PM, Robin  wrote:
> 
> Was  In the Meetin', but couldn't Heaer anything Except Apple's VoiceOver, & 
> Don't know what was wrong, as this isn't The1st time that  this TypeOfThing 
> has happened to me when I  tried to  TuneIn to a  ZoomMeetin'
> At 02:46 PM 4/18/2020, you wrote:
>> Hello Marilyn,
>> 
>> It was probably my fault that you could not enter the meeting as I was a bit 
>> overwhelmed with the number of people joining the meeting; you see, I had to 
>> manually admit each person to the group in order to prevent a Zoom Bomb.
>> 
>> I think the next time I host a meeting, I will ask someone to be responsible 
>> for admitting people so I can focus on the conversation.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Marilyn Bland
>> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 2:36 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Zoom meeting invitation - V iPhone Group, Let’s Talk via Zoom
>> 
>> Mark,
>> 
>> I tried to join, but could not get into the room.
>> 
>> Not sure what I was doing wrong.
>> 
>> Marilyn
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of M. Taylor
>> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 3:45 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Zoom meeting invitation - V iPhone Group, Let’s Talk via Zoom
>> 
>> Mark is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting.
>> 
>> Topic: V iPhone Group, Let’s Talk via Zoom
>> Time: Apr 18, 2020 02:00 PM Pacific Time (US and Canada)
>> 
>> Join Zoom Meeting
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RE: the poop from Apple about the new SE sim card

[Alan Lemly]

Richard,

 

I don't pretend to understand the ins and outs of SIM cards but I thought their 
primary purpose was to hold your carrier account info and settings. I wouldn't 
think that would have much effect on the speed of your device but if you 
replace your original SE's SIM  card in your second generation SE, maybe you 
could report back if you notice a difference between the two SIMs.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 4:56 AM
To: ViPone list
Subject: the poop from Apple about the new SE sim card

 

Technically, the SE first generation and second generation take the same size 
SIM card. 

However, the new SIM cards are much faster, so Apple recommends getting a new 
SIM card with the new phone.

I was told by an Apple staff person that I could set up the new phone with the 
old SE SIM, but should then get a new SIM card as the performance will be much 
better.

And, the new SE is a Dual SIM phone; as in one physical SIM and one eSIM just 
like the 11 and xs/xr phones if your carrier supports the eSIM.

 

Richard

 

(Sent from my iPhone SE)

C

 

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RE: It was nice getting to know some of you

[Dennis Long]

When will the next one be?

-Original Message-
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Hi Gordon and Everyone,

That was great!

Thank you all for joining our meeting.  

I will definitely purchase a subscription so that we can have meetings without 
a 40-minute time limit.  You guys are definitely worth it.

Perhaps we can pick a topic for each meeting or something.

Again, thank you all for calling in.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gordon
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I had to jump out of the meeting because I have some new furniture to unload. 
It was nice talking with those of you who were able to come out and I hope we 
do this again.

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RE: Zoom meeting invitation - V iPhone Group, Let’s Talk via Zoo m

[Robin]

Was  In the Meetin', but couldn't Heaer anything 
Except Apple's VoiceOver, & Don't know what was 
wrong, as this isn't The1st time that  this 
TypeOfThing has happened to me when I  tried to  TuneIn to a  ZoomMeetin'

At 02:46 PM 4/18/2020, you wrote:

Hello Marilyn,

It was probably my fault that you could not 
enter the meeting as I was a bit overwhelmed 
with the number of people joining the meeting; 
you see, I had to manually admit each person to 
the group in order to prevent a Zoom Bomb.


I think the next time I host a meeting, I will 
ask someone to be responsible for admitting 
people so I can focus on the conversation.


Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marilyn Bland

Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 2:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Zoom meeting invitation - V iPhone Group, Let’s Talk via Zoom

Mark,

I tried to join, but could not get into the room.

Not sure what I was doing wrong.

Marilyn

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor

Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 3:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Zoom meeting invitation - V iPhone Group, Let’s Talk via Zoom

Mark is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting.

Topic: V iPhone Group, Let’s Talk via Zoom
Time: Apr 18, 2020 02:00 PM Pacific Time (US and Canada)

Join Zoom Meeting
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RE: What SIM Card is used by second generation iPhone SE was RE: Apple Newsroom: iPhone SE: A powerful new smartphone in a popular design

[Richard Turner]

Hi,
If when you first power on the new device, you triple tap the home button, 
VoiceOver will come on and you can go through the entire set up without sighted 
assistance.
If the device doesn't have a home button, the side switch will do the same 
thing when triple tapped.

In your case, you are dealing with phones with a home button.  I've done this a 
number of times.
It is a bit strange at first because you may hear a different language, but if 
you double tap there, it usually defaults to English.

I'd call either Apple, or your Carrier, to get help with the SIM card question.
I've not tried doing a SIM card without sighted assistance.




Richard
"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.


-Original Message-
From: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone  
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 2:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What SIM Card is used by second generation iPhone SE was RE: Apple 
Newsroom: iPhone SE: A powerful new smartphone in a popular design

Hi all 

Whilst we are on the subject of SIM cards, I have a question. I currently own 
an IPhone 8, but am considering ordering a new IPhone SE. So would I simply be 
able to swap my IPhone 8 SIM card directly into my new IPhone when it comes? If 
so, how easy would this be to do for someone with no sight? 

Also, when it comes to setting up the new phone when I first get it, how can I 
ensure that voiceover is on from the word go to help me with the set-up??, 
otherwise, frankly, I’m stuffed as I can’t see the screen at all. 

Any idiot-proof instructions on both counts really would be greatly 
appreciated. 

Many thanks for any help anyone can give. 

Eleanor 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 18 Apr 2020, at 12:50, Dave  wrote:
> 
> Hi Simon. It's just an E-Sim, and a Nano Sim.
> 
> Dave.
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 9:49 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: What SIM Card is used by second generation iPhone SE was 
> RE: Apple Newsroom: iPhone SE: A powerful new smartphone in a popular 
> design
> 
> If I read the apple specs correctly it has a nano sim plus e sim and I think 
> it said a second physical sim option as well.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Alan Lemly
> Sent: Saturday, 18 April 2020 4:05 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: What SIM Card is used by second generation iPhone SE was RE: 
> Apple Newsroom: iPhone SE: A powerful new smartphone in a popular 
> design
> 
> Richard,
> 
> The following article says the original iPhone SE used a nano SIM card and I 
> be very surprised if the second generation SE didn't use a nano SIM as well:
> 
> https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.
> whistleout.com%2FCellPhones%2FFaqs%2F228234328-What-size-SIM-card-does
> -an-iPhone-SE-use-data=02%7C01%7C%7Cfdc4733a8ec7440691b508d7e3e18
> f80%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637228430218185095
> p;sdata=86yruXBtmCU1TyzUEXPHHEdsFLhvtlAMubWufIc%2Bem0%3Dreserved=
> 0
> 
> But let us know if you find out anything different.
> 
> Alan Lemly
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Richard Turner
> Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 8:43 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple Newsroom: iPhone SE: A powerful new smartphone in a 
> popular design
> 
> The New SE nor the old SE can take memory cards directly.
> From what I read, the New SE also uses a different SIM card, but I plan to 
> check that out for sure with Apple.
> The memory card that I mentioned is with a separate adapter that plugs into 
> the lightning port and allows you to use external memory cards.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Husna Begum' via VIPhone 
> Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 6:37 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Newsroom: iPhone SE: A powerful new smartphone in a 
> popular design
> 
> hi,
> 
> can you use any memory card then? and is a slot available to put the memory 
> card into either in the old SE or the new SE?
> 
> thanks
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 3:23 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple Newsroom: iPhone SE: A powerful new smartphone in a 
> popular design
> 
> And, since iOS 13, you can use a $30 adaptor to access external memory cards.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Wayne Merritt
> Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 6:49 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Newsroom: iPhone SE: A powerful new smartphone in a 
> popular design
> 
> My 2 cents: If you don't have a good reason for getting 256 gigs of 

Re: It was nice getting to know some of you

[Donna Neff]

I too very much enjoyed chatting with everyone. It was wonderful catching up 
and hearing everyone’s voices. Hope we can do it again next Thursday.

Donna ❤️ 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 18, 2020, at 2:42 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hi Gordon and Everyone,
> 
> That was great!
> 
> Thank you all for joining our meeting.  
> 
> I will definitely purchase a subscription so that we can have meetings 
> without a 40-minute time limit.  You guys are definitely worth it.
> 
> Perhaps we can pick a topic for each meeting or something.
> 
> Again, thank you all for calling in.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Gordon
> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 2:26 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: It was nice getting to know some of you
> 
> I had to jump out of the meeting because I have some new furniture to 
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RE: Zoom meeting invitation - V iPhone Group, Let’s Talk via Zoom

[M. Taylor]

Hello Marilyn,

It was probably my fault that you could not enter the meeting as I was a bit 
overwhelmed with the number of people joining the meeting; you see, I had to 
manually admit each person to the group in order to prevent a Zoom Bomb.

I think the next time I host a meeting, I will ask someone to be responsible 
for admitting people so I can focus on the conversation.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Marilyn Bland
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 2:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Zoom meeting invitation - V iPhone Group, Let’s Talk via Zoom

Mark, 

I tried to join, but could not get into the room. 

Not sure what I was doing wrong. 

Marilyn

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Subject: Zoom meeting invitation - V iPhone Group, Let’s Talk via Zoom

Mark is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting. 

Topic: V iPhone Group, Let’s Talk via Zoom 
Time: Apr 18, 2020 02:00 PM Pacific Time (US and Canada) 

Join Zoom Meeting 
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Re: What SIM Card is used by second generation iPhone SE was RE: Apple Newsroom: iPhone SE: A powerful new smartphone in a popular design

['Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone]

Hi all 

Whilst we are on the subject of SIM cards, I have a question. I currently own 
an IPhone 8, but am considering ordering a new IPhone SE. So would I simply be 
able to swap my IPhone 8 SIM card directly into my new IPhone when it comes? If 
so, how easy would this be to do for someone with no sight? 

Also, when it comes to setting up the new phone when I first get it, how can I 
ensure that voiceover is on from the word go to help me with the set-up??, 
otherwise, frankly, I’m stuffed as I can’t see the screen at all. 

Any idiot-proof instructions on both counts really would be greatly 
appreciated. 

Many thanks for any help anyone can give. 

Eleanor 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 18 Apr 2020, at 12:50, Dave  wrote:
> 
> Hi Simon. It's just an E-Sim, and a Nano Sim.
> 
> Dave.
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 9:49 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: What SIM Card is used by second generation iPhone SE was RE: 
> Apple Newsroom: iPhone SE: A powerful new smartphone in a popular design
> 
> If I read the apple specs correctly it has a nano sim plus e sim and I think 
> it said a second physical sim option as well.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
> Lemly
> Sent: Saturday, 18 April 2020 4:05 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: What SIM Card is used by second generation iPhone SE was RE: Apple 
> Newsroom: iPhone SE: A powerful new smartphone in a popular design
> 
> Richard,
> 
> The following article says the original iPhone SE used a nano SIM card and I 
> be very surprised if the second generation SE didn't use a nano SIM as well:
> 
> https://www.whistleout.com/CellPhones/Faqs/228234328-What-size-SIM-card-does-an-iPhone-SE-use-
> 
> But let us know if you find out anything different.
> 
> Alan Lemly
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 8:43 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple Newsroom: iPhone SE: A powerful new smartphone in a 
> popular design
> 
> The New SE nor the old SE can take memory cards directly.
> From what I read, the New SE also uses a different SIM card, but I plan to 
> check that out for sure with Apple.
> The memory card that I mentioned is with a separate adapter that plugs into 
> the lightning port and allows you to use external memory cards.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Husna Begum' via VIPhone 
> Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 6:37 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Newsroom: iPhone SE: A powerful new smartphone in a 
> popular design
> 
> hi,
> 
> can you use any memory card then? and is a slot available to put the memory 
> card into either in the old SE or the new SE?
> 
> thanks
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 3:23 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple Newsroom: iPhone SE: A powerful new smartphone in a 
> popular design
> 
> And, since iOS 13, you can use a $30 adaptor to access external memory cards.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
> Merritt
> Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 6:49 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Newsroom: iPhone SE: A powerful new smartphone in a 
> popular design
> 
> My 2 cents: If you don't have a good reason for getting 256 gigs of storage, 
> save some money and don't do it. I had an iPhone with 256 gigs storage and 
> for most of the year I had the phone, I didn't store more than 50 gigs. I'm 
> sticking to the 128 gig storage phones, unless I suddenly come across a huge 
> need for more storage. 128 suits me fine though, since about half is taken up 
> with music, books, and apps, and I've got lots of storage to go before 
> getting close to filling up my phone.
> 
> Respectfully,
> Wayne Merritt
> 
>> On 4/16/20, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>> Wait for the questions of how much does my phone have!
>> 
>> Good answer.
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Thursday, 16 April 2020 11:31 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Apple Newsroom: iPhone SE: A powerful new smartphone in a
>> popular design
>> 
>> The iPhone 6S/6S Plus, the original SE, the 7/7 Plus and the 8/8 Plus
>> all have 2 Gb of RAM. The original iPhone X which was released in 2017
>> along with the iPhone 8/8 Plus has 3 Gb.
>> The 2018 iPhone XR also has 3 Gb whereas the iPhone XS and XS Max have
>> 4 Gb.
>> The 2019 models are the iPhone 11 also with 4 Gb and the iPhone 11 Pro
>> and Pro Max with 6 Gb.
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> 

RE: It was nice getting to know some of you

[M. Taylor]

Hi Gordon and Everyone,

That was great!

Thank you all for joining our meeting.  

I will definitely purchase a subscription so that we can have meetings without 
a 40-minute time limit.  You guys are definitely worth it.

Perhaps we can pick a topic for each meeting or something.

Again, thank you all for calling in.

Mark

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Gordon
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 2:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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I had to jump out of the meeting because I have some new furniture to 
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RE: Zoom meeting invitation - V iPhone Group, Let’s Talk via Zoom

[Marilyn Bland]

Mark, 

I tried to join, but could not get into the room. 

Not sure what I was doing wrong. 

Marilyn

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Subject: Zoom meeting invitation - V iPhone Group, Let’s Talk via Zoom

Mark is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting. 

Topic: V iPhone Group, Let’s Talk via Zoom 
Time: Apr 18, 2020 02:00 PM Pacific Time (US and Canada) 

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It was nice getting to know some of you

[Gordon]

I had to jump out of the meeting because I have some new furniture to 
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RE: “Up date button” in App store

[Richard Turner]

Hi Kim,
Just so you know, your response came in at the bottom after the prior quoted 
messages.
You may want to make sure you are editing at the top of the message.

Glad it worked.

Richard
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-Original Message-
From: 'Kimberly Samco' via VIPhone  
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 2:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: “Up date button” in App store



> On Apr 18, 2020, at 9:27 AM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
> 
> Hi Kim,
> 
> I assume your phone is running iOS 13. If so, triple-tap the App Store icon. 
> a menu comes up that includes Update. Double-tap that, and the Update screen 
> will open. Near the bottom of the screen, you'll find an Update All button 
> that says how many updates there are. Do a three-finger flick down to refresh 
> the screen to make sure all the updates are showing.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
>> On Apr 18, 2020, at 11:21 AM, 'Kimberly Samco' via VIPhone 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> 
>> I can’t open the Amazon app so I wanted to see if it needed updating but the 
>> update button isn’t in the lwer right corner anymore and I can’t find it.
>> 
>> 
>> Any info is appreciated on where the button is now.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> 
>> Kim
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Re: “Up date button” in App store

['Kimberly Samco' via VIPhone]

> On Apr 18, 2020, at 9:27 AM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
> 
> Hi Kim,
> 
> I assume your phone is running iOS 13. If so, triple-tap the App Store icon. 
> a menu comes up that includes Update. Double-tap that, and the Update screen 
> will open. Near the bottom of the screen, you'll find an Update All button 
> that says how many updates there are. Do a three-finger flick down to refresh 
> the screen to make sure all the updates are showing.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
>> On Apr 18, 2020, at 11:21 AM, 'Kimberly Samco' via VIPhone 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> 
>> I can’t open the Amazon app so I wanted to see if it needed updating but the 
>> update button isn’t in the lwer right corner anymore and I can’t find it.
>> 
>> 
>> Any info is appreciated on where the button is now.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> 
>> Kim
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RE: V iPhone List Members: Let's Talk Via Zoom, in about 40 minutes from Now

[Dennis Long]

Ok sounds good.

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Hello All, 

I am thinking about purchasing a hosting subscription for the Zoom app.
Before doing so, however, I thought it would be a good idea to test the app, 
and to get to know some of you, better, by hosting a short V iPhone group 
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So, in about 40 minutes from now, 2pm, California local time, I will be hosting 
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RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

[Peter Logan]

You might also see if you have any device $ from Verizon which will help offset 
the cost ..

 

If

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of R Van 
Lant
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 4:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

 

>From another thread on this list, it sounds like putting the sim card for my 
>current phone into a new one could degrade the service.  I’m on a 6S now and 
>am looking forward to all the new speed I can get from the SE.   

I’m on the Verizon site now and one caveat I see to buying from there is that 
they say the trade in for my current phone is only $35, whereas Apple will give 
me $80. If Verizon waives the activation fee, which I think a store sales 
person recently told me is $40, that balances out with the savings I would get 
direct from Apple.  Not even sure if I want to trade in this one, or keep it 
for my kids to use like an iTouch. 

I’m a bit nervous on the sim card stuff,  so I’ll call Apple and see what they 
say about activation fees.  

 

Robin

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Dennis Long
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 9:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

 

I agree.  It also gives you flexibility if you want to leave said carrier.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 11:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

 

If you are planning to pay full price for a phone why not buy an unlocked phone 
directly from Apple. Then all you have to do when you get it is put your 
existing SIM in it and go through the setup screen and you are done.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

 

If you are in the habit of buying Apple Care, it is $79.00 from Apple, or if 
you want Apple Care plus theft protection $149.00.

I’ve always purchased direct from Apple until my last phone when I had to buy 
from the carrier, Xfinity, because that was before they offered the program 
where you could bring a phone to them and get it set up with their service.

They didn’t offer Apple Care;; but their own warranty which was ridiculously 
expensive.

I went with Apple this time and since Xfinity wasn’t listed as one of the 
carriers they work with, I bought the no SIM model.

 

It is all down to personal preference.

 

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of R 
Van Lant
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

 

I’m ready to preorder the new SE 2020.  I can pay full price thanks to the 
stimulus check.  I’ve gotten my last two phones from Verizon, but wonder if 
there is a perk to buying from Apple directly.  The price appears the same.  
Verizon’s website says they’ll waive the activation fee if I buy online; maybe 
the same is true if I activate via Apple.  Verizon will unlock the phone after 
60 days.  Apple has helped me in the past when I locked myself out of my phone, 
even though I didn’t have Apple Care.  So, is there a reason to buy direct from 
Apple or is this just a preference thing?   

 

Robin – ready to retire my 6S

 

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RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

[R Van Lant]

>From another thread on this list, it sounds like putting the sim card for my 
>current phone into a new one could degrade the service.  I’m on a 6S now and 
>am looking forward to all the new speed I can get from the SE.
I’m on the Verizon site now and one caveat I see to buying from there is that 
they say the trade in for my current phone is only $35, whereas Apple will give 
me $80. If Verizon waives the activation fee, which I think a store sales 
person recently told me is $40, that balances out with the savings I would get 
direct from Apple.  Not even sure if I want to trade in this one, or keep it 
for my kids to use like an iTouch.
I’m a bit nervous on the sim card stuff,  so I’ll call Apple and see what they 
say about activation fees.

Robin



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 9:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

I agree.  It also gives you flexibility if you want to leave said carrier.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 11:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

If you are planning to pay full price for a phone why not buy an unlocked phone 
directly from Apple. Then all you have to do when you get it is put your 
existing SIM in it and go through the setup screen and you are done.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

If you are in the habit of buying Apple Care, it is $79.00 from Apple, or if 
you want Apple Care plus theft protection $149.00.
I’ve always purchased direct from Apple until my last phone when I had to buy 
from the carrier, Xfinity, because that was before they offered the program 
where you could bring a phone to them and get it set up with their service.
They didn’t offer Apple Care;; but their own warranty which was ridiculously 
expensive.
I went with Apple this time and since Xfinity wasn’t listed as one of the 
carriers they work with, I bought the no SIM model.

It is all down to personal preference.


Richard
"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of R Van 
Lant
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

I’m ready to preorder the new SE 2020.  I can pay full price thanks to the 
stimulus check.  I’ve gotten my last two phones from Verizon, but wonder if 
there is a perk to buying from Apple directly.  The price appears the same.  
Verizon’s website says they’ll waive the activation fee if I buy online; maybe 
the same is true if I activate via Apple.  Verizon will unlock the phone after 
60 days.  Apple has helped me in the past when I locked myself out of my phone, 
even though I didn’t have Apple Care.  So, is there a reason to buy direct from 
Apple or is this just a preference thing?

Robin – ready to retire my 6S

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RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

[Peter Logan]

Well, depending on how fast you want the phone ..  from Apple deliveries are 
into the 2nd. week of May now.  You can still get things on launch day from 
Verizon.

I have taken phones between AT and Verizon without any issues ..  So, either 
way should work.  Also, right now Verizon isn't charging upgrade or activation 
fees when buying from them .. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 4:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

No your not correct.  See this
In order to mitigate theft and other fraudulent activity, newly purchased 
devices are “locked” to work exclusively on the Verizon network.  We have 
separate device unlocking policies that cover postpay and prepaid devices, as 
well as special rules for deployed military personnel.

“Unlocking” a device refers only to disabling software that would prevent a 
consumer from attempting to activate a device designed for one carrier’s 
network on another carrier’s network. Due to differing technologies, an 
unlocked Verizon Wireless device may not work – or may experience limited 
functionality – on another carrier’s network.

Postpay Device Unlocking Policy
Devices that you purchase from Verizon are locked for 60 days after purchase.   
Devices that you purchase from our retail partners are locked for 60 days after 
activation.  After 60 days, we will automatically remove the lock. Following 
the 60 day lock period, we do not lock our phones at any time. 

Prepaid Device Unlocking Policy
Devices that you purchase from Verizon and certain devices purchased from our 
retail partners are locked for 60 days after activation. After 60 days, we will 
automatically remove the lock. Following the 60 day lock period following 
device purchase, we do not lock our phones at any time. 
link below. 
https://www.verizon.com/about/consumer-safety/device-unlocking-policy  


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robin
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 3:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

All of Apple's iPhones
on  VZW'sNetwork  (VerizonWireless) are UnLock'd From TheGetGo

At 12:17 PM 4/18/2020, you wrote:
>I would buy it unlocked from Apple, then it's one less thing to deal 
>with if you ever want to switch carriers. I would get the phone from 
>Apple and then insert your Verizon sim card, I would think everything 
>would work at that point.
>
> > On Apr 18, 2020, at 9:07 AM, R Van Lant  wrote:
> >
> > I’m ready to preorder the new SE 2020.  I
> can pay full price thanks to the stimulus check.  I’ve gotten my 
> last two phones from Verizon, but wonder if there is a perk to buying 
> from Apple directly.  The price appears the same.  Verizon’s website 
> says they’ll waive the activation fee if I buy online; maybe the 
> same is true if I activate via Apple.  Verizon will unlock the phone 
> after 60 days.  Apple has helped me in the past when I locked myself 
> out of my phone, even though I didn’t have Apple Care.  So, is there 
> a reason to buy direct from Apple or is this just a preference thing?
> >
> > Robin ­ ready to retire my 6S
> >
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V iPhone List Members: Let's Talk Via Zoom, in about 40 minutes from Now

[M. Taylor]

Hello All, 

I am thinking about purchasing a hosting subscription for the Zoom app.
Before doing so, however, I thought it would be a good idea to test the app,
and to get to know some of you, better, by hosting a short V iPhone group
meeting on the platform.

So, in about 40 minutes from now, 2pm, California local time, I will be
hosting a short 30-minute Zoom meeting.

I will send the meeting invitation to the group in about 20 minutes from
now.

I know this is short notice but hope that some of you can join me.

Until Then,

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RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

[Dennis Long]

No your not correct.  See this 
In order to mitigate theft and other fraudulent activity, newly purchased 
devices are “locked” to work exclusively on the Verizon network.  We have 
separate device unlocking policies that cover postpay and prepaid devices, as 
well as special rules for deployed military personnel.

“Unlocking” a device refers only to disabling software that would prevent a 
consumer from attempting to activate a device designed for one carrier’s 
network on another carrier’s network. Due to differing technologies, an 
unlocked Verizon Wireless device may not work – or may experience limited 
functionality – on another carrier’s network.

Postpay Device Unlocking Policy
Devices that you purchase from Verizon are locked for 60 days after purchase.   
Devices that you purchase from our retail partners are locked for 60 days after 
activation.  After 60 days, we will automatically remove the lock. Following 
the 60 day lock period, we do not lock our phones at any time. 

Prepaid Device Unlocking Policy
Devices that you purchase from Verizon and certain devices purchased from our 
retail partners are locked for 60 days after activation. After 60 days, we will 
automatically remove the lock. Following the 60 day lock period following 
device purchase, we do not lock our phones at any time. 
link below. 
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robin
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 3:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

All of Apple's iPhones
on  VZW'sNetwork  (VerizonWireless) are UnLock'd From TheGetGo

At 12:17 PM 4/18/2020, you wrote:
>I would buy it unlocked from Apple, then it's one less thing to deal 
>with if you ever want to switch carriers. I would get the phone from 
>Apple and then insert your Verizon sim card, I would think everything 
>would work at that point.
>
> > On Apr 18, 2020, at 9:07 AM, R Van Lant  wrote:
> >
> > I’m ready to preorder the new SE 2020.  I
> can pay full price thanks to the stimulus check.  I’ve gotten my 
> last two phones from Verizon, but wonder if there is a perk to buying 
> from Apple directly.  The price appears the same.  Verizon’s website 
> says they’ll waive the activation fee if I buy online; maybe the 
> same is true if I activate via Apple.  Verizon will unlock the phone 
> after 60 days.  Apple has helped me in the past when I locked myself 
> out of my phone, even though I didn’t have Apple Care.  So, is there 
> a reason to buy direct from Apple or is this just a preference thing?
> >
> > Robin ­ ready to retire my 6S
> >
> >
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Re: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

[Robin]

All of Apple's iPhones 
on  VZW'sNetwork  (VerizonWireless) are UnLock'd From TheGetGo


At 12:17 PM 4/18/2020, you wrote:
I would buy it unlocked from Apple, then it's 
one less thing to deal with if you ever want to 
switch carriers. I would get the phone from 
Apple and then insert your Verizon sim card, I 
would think everything would work at that point.


> On Apr 18, 2020, at 9:07 AM, R Van Lant  wrote:
>
> I’m ready to preorder the new SE 2020.  I 
can pay full price thanks to the stimulus 
check.  I’ve gotten my last two phones from 
Verizon, but wonder if there is a perk to 
buying from Apple directly.  The price appears 
the same.  Verizon’s website says they’ll 
waive the activation fee if I buy online; maybe 
the same is true if I activate via 
Apple.  Verizon will unlock the phone after 60 
days.  Apple has helped me in the past when I 
locked myself out of my phone, even though I 
didn’t have Apple Care.  So, is there a 
reason to buy direct from Apple or is this just a preference thing?

>
> Robin ­ ready to retire my 6S
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Re: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

[Mike Arrigo]

I would buy it unlocked from Apple, then it's one less thing to deal with if 
you ever want to switch carriers. I would get the phone from Apple and then 
insert your Verizon sim card, I would think everything would work at that point.

> On Apr 18, 2020, at 9:07 AM, R Van Lant  wrote:
> 
> I’m ready to preorder the new SE 2020.  I can pay full price thanks to the 
> stimulus check.  I’ve gotten my last two phones from Verizon, but wonder if 
> there is a perk to buying from Apple directly.  The price appears the same.  
> Verizon’s website says they’ll waive the activation fee if I buy online; 
> maybe the same is true if I activate via Apple.  Verizon will unlock the 
> phone after 60 days.  Apple has helped me in the past when I locked myself 
> out of my phone, even though I didn’t have Apple Care.  So, is there a reason 
> to buy direct from Apple or is this just a preference thing?   
>  
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Re: Ordered a new SE this morning

[Dave]

You may find, any new phones after the new SE, will be bigger.

Dave.


From: kitty hevener 
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning

Thanks, I could not recall or find the size of the original se, the phone I 
currently have.  Since I don’t like the larger phones, I will definitely be 
sticking with what I have as long as I can.  You might recall that I purchased 
an se with more space not that long ago.  It was a mess getting the thing to 
work, but persistence, help from folks on this list, apple accessability desk, 
and geniuses at the apple bar, I succeeded.   

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 8:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning

 

First of all, Kitty, the new iPhone SE which was just released is the exact 
same size/format of the iPhon e 8 and that is equal to a 4.7 inch screen.

The original iPhone SE which was released in the spring of 2016 had for the 
most part the internals of the iPhone 6S which was released in the fall of 
2015, but it was actually a 4 inch phone like the old iPhone 5 and 5S from 2012 
and 2013.

As for iOS 14, I think it’s entirely possible that the iPhone 6S, 6S Plus and 
the original SE still get this year’s iOS release. After all, the iPhone 5S 
which was released in 2013 with iOS 7 preinstalled got all the upgrades 
including iOS 12 in 2018, only last fall did it not get iOS 13 any more. This 
means after the OS it shipped with it got 5 more iOS updartes, all the way from 
2013 to 2018 or 6 years.

The iPhone 6S/6S Plus and the original SE were all released with iOS 9 
preinstalled and so far they received iOS 10, 11, 12 and 13, that is one 
version less than the 5S.

My wife and I both also have the iPhone 8 and we will definitely not upgrade to 
this new iPhone SE just for the sake of going from 2 Gb to 3 Gb of RAM and from 
the A11 to the A13 processor. In real life you won’t notice that much of a 
difference and anybody who argues that on this new phone apps open faster, the 
app switcher come sup faster and so on should ask themselves how many seconds a 
day they’ll save and whether that is really worth it. Anybody who still has an 
iPhone 6 or even a 5S should probably upgrade, but I want to see what Apple 
comes up with this fall. I really want a phone with Face Id and 5G support, but 
unless there are some other compelling aspects I will probably wait until the 
fall of 2021.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robin
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 1:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning

 

No one Knows ForSure if Apple's iPhoneSE 1stGeneration will Be Supported  by 
its Forthcomin' iOS14
Personally, I don't Think it will Be Supported

But with All of the Perceived Bugs & Flaws AssociatedWith Apple's iOS13, Apple 
may Support   the 1stGeneration SE
At 01:49 PM 4/17/2020, you wrote:

  Richrd, thanks.   Wonder how long will be able to use my current se.  I 
hope at least another year or two.  
   
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
  Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 4:10 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Ordered a new SE this morning
   
  It is not the same size as the old one. 
  It is more the size of the standard iPhone 8.
  So current cases will not fit it.
   
  The old SE is worth $30 in trade.
  I plan to use my old one as a music and book player as a WiFi only device.
   
   
  (Sent from my iPhone SE)
  C

   

  On Apr 17, 2020, at 12:52 PM, kitty hevener  wrote:

   

  For clarification, is the new SE the same size as the old one?  Has anyone 
tried trading in the old se for the new one?  Any luck?

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Fazil

  Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 2:48 PM

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com

  Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning

   

  Is SE 2 better than iPhone8 in any ways?

  Thanks!

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
jkt4...@gmail.com

  Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 5:40 AM

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com

  Subject: Ordered a new SE this morning

   

  Good morning,

   

  With my sighted wife’s help I ordered a new SE, black, 128 Gb, with Apple 
Care  and arranged to trade in my old iphone 8. We were online right at 7 AM 
CDT. It took us 13 minutes from start to finish which I thought was pretty 
good. I think we had to restart the process twice. It is supposed  to be 
delivered next Friday, April 24. I had to pay the full price plus tax and they 
ship me a package with labels so I can send them the iphone 8. When they get 
the 8 they will credit my account $170.00. I didn’t want to try to sell the 
old one locally.

   

  That’s my story, hope you’re all doing well in these strange times.

  Joe 

   

Re: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

[Feliciano Godoy]

Hi, 
it depends. Some carriers charge $10 for a SIM card plus an activation fee 
which is usually like $40.


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> On Apr 18, 2020, at 11:32 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> How much does a SIM card usually cost? 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Dennis Long
> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 1:36 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?
> 
> Also if you don’t store your contacts on your sim you should be fine.  It 
> won’t slow your phone down.  All it is used for is how to tell the phone to 
> talk to the towers.
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Peter 
> Logan
> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 1:30 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?
> 
> 
> 
> You should be fine .. worst case if what you have doesn’t work, then you can 
> get a new one after the fact ..
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
> Dennis Long
> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 1:13 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?
> 
> 
> 
> How will this make a difference?  My sim is less than a year old.  I don’t 
> see how it will make a difference.
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
> Mike B.
> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 1:01 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?
> 
> 
> 
> According to an earlier post it's not beneficial to use your old SIM card 
> because it'll hinder the performance of the new SE model.
> 
> 
> 
> Technically, the SE first generation and second generation take the same size 
> SIM card. 
> However, the new SIM cards are much faster, so Apple recommends getting a new 
> SIM card with the new phone.
> I was told by an Apple staff person that I could set up the new phone with 
> the old SE SIM, but should then get a new SIM card as the performance will be 
> much better.
> 
> 
> Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
> *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it 
> cleans the toilet. 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> 
> From: Sieghard Weitzel   
> 
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com   
> 
> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 8:05 AM
> 
> Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?
> 
> 
> 
> If you are planning to pay full price for a phone why not buy an unlocked 
> phone directly from Apple. Then all you have to do when you get it is put 
> your existing SIM in it and go through the setup screen and you are done.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:33 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?
> 
> 
> 
> If you are in the habit of buying Apple Care, it is $79.00 from Apple, or if 
> you want Apple Care plus theft protection $149.00.
> 
> I’ve always purchased direct from Apple until my last phone when I had to buy 
> from the carrier, Xfinity, because that was before they offered the program 
> where you could bring a phone to them and get it set up with their service.
> 
> They didn’t offer Apple Care;; but their own warranty which was ridiculously 
> expensive.
> 
> I went with Apple this time and since Xfinity wasn’t listed as one of the 
> carriers they work with, I bought the no SIM model.
> 
> 
> 
> It is all down to personal preference.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of R 
> Van Lant
> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:07 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?
> 
> 
> 
> I’m ready to preorder the new SE 2020.  I can pay full price thanks to the 
> stimulus check.  I’ve gotten my last two phones from Verizon, but wonder if 
> there is a perk to buying from Apple directly.  The price appears the same.  
> Verizon’s website says they’ll waive the activation fee if I buy online; 
> maybe the same is true if I activate via Apple.  Verizon will unlock the 
> phone after 60 days.  Apple has helped me in the past when I 

Re: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

[lenron brown]

Ha the sim wouldn't matter, and also I normally buy from my carrier.
Not buying director from apple if I really don't need to.

On 4/18/20, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> How much does a SIM card usually cost?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Dennis Long
> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 1:36 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?
>
> Also if you don’t store your contacts on your sim you should be fine.  It
> won’t slow your phone down.  All it is used for is how to tell the phone to
> talk to the towers.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Peter
> Logan
> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 1:30 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?
>
>
>
> You should be fine .. worst case if what you have doesn’t work, then you can
> get a new one after the fact ..
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of
> Dennis Long
> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 1:13 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?
>
>
>
> How will this make a difference?  My sim is less than a year old.  I don’t
> see how it will make a difference.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of
> Mike B.
> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 1:01 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?
>
>
>
> According to an earlier post it's not beneficial to use your old SIM card
> because it'll hinder the performance of the new SE model.
>
>
>
> Technically, the SE first generation and second generation take the same
> size SIM card.
> However, the new SIM cards are much faster, so Apple recommends getting a
> new SIM card with the new phone.
> I was told by an Apple staff person that I could set up the new phone with
> the old SE SIM, but should then get a new SIM card as the performance will
> be much better.
>
>
> Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
>  *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee
> it cleans the toilet.
>
> - Original Message -
>
> From: Sieghard Weitzel 
>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>
> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 8:05 AM
>
> Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?
>
>
>
> If you are planning to pay full price for a phone why not buy an unlocked
> phone directly from Apple. Then all you have to do when you get it is put
> your existing SIM in it and go through the setup screen and you are done.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:33 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?
>
>
>
> If you are in the habit of buying Apple Care, it is $79.00 from Apple, or if
> you want Apple Care plus theft protection $149.00.
>
> I’ve always purchased direct from Apple until my last phone when I had to
> buy from the carrier, Xfinity, because that was before they offered the
> program where you could bring a phone to them and get it set up with their
> service.
>
> They didn’t offer Apple Care;; but their own warranty which was ridiculously
> expensive.
>
> I went with Apple this time and since Xfinity wasn’t listed as one of the
> carriers they work with, I bought the no SIM model.
>
>
>
> It is all down to personal preference.
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
>
> "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland,
> Oregon.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of R
> Van Lant
> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:07 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?
>
>
>
> I’m ready to preorder the new SE 2020.  I can pay full price thanks to the
> stimulus check.  I’ve gotten my last two phones from Verizon, but wonder if
> there is a perk to buying from Apple directly.  The price appears the same.
> Verizon’s website says they’ll waive the activation fee if I buy online;
> maybe the same is true if I activate via Apple.  Verizon will unlock the
> phone after 60 days.  Apple has helped me in the past when I locked myself
> out of my phone, even though I didn’t have Apple Care.  So, is there a
> reason to buy direct from Apple or is this just a preference thing?
>
>
>
> Robin – ready to retire my 6S
>
>
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RE: Ordered a new SE this morning

[kitty hevener]

Thanks, I could not recall or find the size of the original se, the phone I 
currently have.  Since I don’t like the larger phones, I will definitely be 
sticking with what I have as long as I can.  You might recall that I purchased 
an se with more space not that long ago.  It was a mess getting the thing to 
work, but persistence, help from folks on this list, apple accessability desk, 
and geniuses at the apple bar, I succeeded.   

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 8:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning

 

First of all, Kitty, the new iPhone SE which was just released is the exact 
same size/format of the iPhon e 8 and that is equal to a 4.7 inch screen.

The original iPhone SE which was released in the spring of 2016 had for the 
most part the internals of the iPhone 6S which was released in the fall of 
2015, but it was actually a 4 inch phone like the old iPhone 5 and 5S from 2012 
and 2013.

As for iOS 14, I think it’s entirely possible that the iPhone 6S, 6S Plus and 
the original SE still get this year’s iOS release. After all, the iPhone 5S 
which was released in 2013 with iOS 7 preinstalled got all the upgrades 
including iOS 12 in 2018, only last fall did it not get iOS 13 any more. This 
means after the OS it shipped with it got 5 more iOS updartes, all the way from 
2013 to 2018 or 6 years.

The iPhone 6S/6S Plus and the original SE were all released with iOS 9 
preinstalled and so far they received iOS 10, 11, 12 and 13, that is one 
version less than the 5S.

My wife and I both also have the iPhone 8 and we will definitely not upgrade to 
this new iPhone SE just for the sake of going from 2 Gb to 3 Gb of RAM and from 
the A11 to the A13 processor. In real life you won’t notice that much of a 
difference and anybody who argues that on this new phone apps open faster, the 
app switcher come sup faster and so on should ask themselves how many seconds a 
day they’ll save and whether that is really worth it. Anybody who still has an 
iPhone 6 or even a 5S should probably upgrade, but I want to see what Apple 
comes up with this fall. I really want a phone with Face Id and 5G support, but 
unless there are some other compelling aspects I will probably wait until the 
fall of 2021.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Robin
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 1:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning

 

No one Knows ForSure if Apple's iPhoneSE 1stGeneration will Be Supported  by 
its Forthcomin' iOS14
Personally, I don't Think it will Be Supported

But with All of the Perceived Bugs & Flaws AssociatedWith Apple's iOS13, Apple 
may Support   the 1stGeneration SE
At 01:49 PM 4/17/2020, you wrote:

Richrd, thanks.   Wonder how long will be able to use my current se.  I hope 
at least another year or two.  
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com   [ 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com  ] On Behalf 
Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 4:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Ordered a new SE this morning
 
It is not the same size as the old one. 
It is more the size of the standard iPhone 8.
So current cases will not fit it.
 
The old SE is worth $30 in trade.
I plan to use my old one as a music and book player as a WiFi only device.
 
 
(Sent from my iPhone SE)
C

 

On Apr 17, 2020, at 12:52 PM, kitty hevener mailto:kheve...@earthlink.net>  > wrote:

 

For clarification, is the new SE the same size as the old one?  Has anyone 
tried trading in the old se for the new one?  Any luck?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   [ 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com  ] On Behalf 
Of Fazil

Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 2:48 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com  

Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning

 

Is SE 2 better than iPhone8 in any ways?

Thanks!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  > On Behalf Of 
jkt4...@gmail.com  

Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 5:40 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com  

Subject: Ordered a new SE this morning

 

Good morning,

 

With my sighted wife’s help I ordered a new SE, black, 128 Gb, with Apple 
Care  and arranged to trade in my old iphone 8. We were online right at 7 AM 
CDT. It took us 13 minutes from start to finish which I thought was pretty 
good. I think we had to restart the process twice. It is supposed  to be 
delivered next Friday, April 24. I had to pay the full price plus tax and they 
ship me a package with labels so I can send them the iphone 8. 

RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

[Carolyn]

How much does a SIM card usually cost? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dennis Long
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 1:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

Also if you don’t store your contacts on your sim you should be fine.  It won’t 
slow your phone down.  All it is used for is how to tell the phone to talk to 
the towers.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Peter 
Logan
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 1:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

 

You should be fine .. worst case if what you have doesn’t work, then you can 
get a new one after the fact ..

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Dennis Long
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 1:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

 

How will this make a difference?  My sim is less than a year old.  I don’t see 
how it will make a difference.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Mike 
B.
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 1:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

 

According to an earlier post it's not beneficial to use your old SIM card 
because it'll hinder the performance of the new SE model.

 

Technically, the SE first generation and second generation take the same size 
SIM card. 
However, the new SIM cards are much faster, so Apple recommends getting a new 
SIM card with the new phone.
I was told by an Apple staff person that I could set up the new phone with the 
old SE SIM, but should then get a new SIM card as the performance will be much 
better.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it 
cleans the toilet. 

- Original Message - 

From: Sieghard Weitzel   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 8:05 AM

Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

 

If you are planning to pay full price for a phone why not buy an unlocked phone 
directly from Apple. Then all you have to do when you get it is put your 
existing SIM in it and go through the setup screen and you are done.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

 

If you are in the habit of buying Apple Care, it is $79.00 from Apple, or if 
you want Apple Care plus theft protection $149.00.

I’ve always purchased direct from Apple until my last phone when I had to buy 
from the carrier, Xfinity, because that was before they offered the program 
where you could bring a phone to them and get it set up with their service.

They didn’t offer Apple Care;; but their own warranty which was ridiculously 
expensive.

I went with Apple this time and since Xfinity wasn’t listed as one of the 
carriers they work with, I bought the no SIM model.

 

It is all down to personal preference.

 

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of R 
Van Lant
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

 

I’m ready to preorder the new SE 2020.  I can pay full price thanks to the 
stimulus check.  I’ve gotten my last two phones from Verizon, but wonder if 
there is a perk to buying from Apple directly.  The price appears the same.  
Verizon’s website says they’ll waive the activation fee if I buy online; maybe 
the same is true if I activate via Apple.  Verizon will unlock the phone after 
60 days.  Apple has helped me in the past when I locked myself out of my phone, 
even though I didn’t have Apple Care.  So, is there a reason to buy direct from 
Apple or is this just a preference thing?   

 

Robin – ready to retire my 6S

 

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Re: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

[Marie]

Good to know and it is new. 

Marie

From: Mike B. 
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 10:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

According to an earlier post it's not beneficial to use your old SIM card 
because it'll hinder the performance of the new SE model.

Technically, the SE first generation and second generation take the same size 
SIM card. 
However, the new SIM cards are much faster, so Apple recommends getting a new 
SIM card with the new phone.
I was told by an Apple staff person that I could set up the new phone with the 
old SE SIM, but should then get a new SIM card as the performance will be
much better.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
*My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it 
cleans the toilet. 

- Original Message - 
From: Sieghard Weitzel 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 8:05 AM
Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?


If you are planning to pay full price for a phone why not buy an unlocked phone 
directly from Apple. Then all you have to do when you get it is put your 
existing SIM in it and go through the setup screen and you are done.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

 

If you are in the habit of buying Apple Care, it is $79.00 from Apple, or if 
you want Apple Care plus theft protection $149.00.

I’ve always purchased direct from Apple until my last phone when I had to buy 
from the carrier, Xfinity, because that was before they offered the program 
where you could bring a phone to them and get it set up with their service.

They didn’t offer Apple Care;; but their own warranty which was ridiculously 
expensive.

I went with Apple this time and since Xfinity wasn’t listed as one of the 
carriers they work with, I bought the no SIM model.

 

It is all down to personal preference.

 

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of R Van 
Lant
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

 

I’m ready to preorder the new SE 2020.  I can pay full price thanks to the 
stimulus check.  I’ve gotten my last two phones from Verizon, but wonder if 
there is a perk to buying from Apple directly.  The price appears the same.  
Verizon’s website says they’ll waive the activation fee if I buy online; maybe 
the same is true if I activate via Apple.  Verizon will unlock the phone after 
60 days.  Apple has helped me in the past when I locked myself out of my phone, 
even though I didn’t have Apple Care.  So, is there a reason to buy direct from 
Apple or is this just a preference thing?   

 

Robin – ready to retire my 6S

 

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Re: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

[Julian]

Hello all,

Other than taking the word of a well intentioned Apple staff are, I would love 
to see evidence that this theory is true. I to reuse my Sim card when I go from 
old phone to new phone and have not experienced any difficulties. I could see 
if the Sim card were 20 years old or something, but these manuals Sims haven't 
been around that long and to the best of my knowledge I don't think it Hello 
all,

Other than taking the word of a well intentioned apple staffer, I would love to 
see evidence that this theory is true. I to reuse my Sim card when I go from 
old phone to new phone and have not experienced any difficulties. I could see 
if the Sim card were 20 years old or something, but these Mannel Sims haven't 
been around that long and to the best of my knowledge I don't think it matters. 
But, if it makes one feel better, and the carrier isn't going to charge you 
anything extra for a new Sim, then why not. matters

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 18, 2020, at 11:17 AM, Feliciano Godoy  
> wrote:
> 
>  I could see how performance is affected if a Sim card is not working 
> properly. But... like I said earlier, never had issues using an older Sim 
> card on a new phone. Always did this on my new phone replacements and dozens 
> of others that I have helped people set up. 
> 
> Feliciano
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> 
>>> On Apr 18, 2020, at 11:05 AM, Mike B.  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Here's the post from earlier:
>>  
>> From: Richard Turner
>> Technically, the SE first generation and second generation take the same 
>> size SIM card.
>> However, the new SIM cards are much faster, so Apple recommends getting a 
>> new SIM card with the new phone.
>> I was told by an Apple staff person that I could set up the new phone with 
>> the old SE SIM, but should then get a new SIM card as the performance will 
>> be much better.
>> And, the new SE is a Dual SIM phone; as in one physical SIM and one eSIM 
>> just like the 11 and xs/xr phones if your carrier supports the eSIM.
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
>>  *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee 
>> it cleans the toilet. 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Dennis Long
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 10:13 AM
>> Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?
>> 
>> How will this make a difference?  My sim is less than a year old.  I don’t 
>> see how it will make a difference.
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
>> B.
>> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 1:01 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?
>>  
>> According to an earlier post it's not beneficial to use your old SIM card 
>> because it'll hinder the performance of the new SE model.
>>  
>> Technically, the SE first generation and second generation take the same 
>> size SIM card. 
>> However, the new SIM cards are much faster, so Apple recommends getting a 
>> new SIM card with the new phone.
>> I was told by an Apple staff person that I could set up the new phone with 
>> the old SE SIM, but should then get a new SIM card as the performance will be
>> much better.
>> 
>> Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
>>  *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee 
>> it cleans the toilet.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Sieghard Weitzel
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 8:05 AM
>> Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?
>>  
>> If you are planning to pay full price for a phone why not buy an unlocked 
>> phone directly from Apple. Then all you have to do when you get it is put 
>> your existing SIM in it and go through the setup screen and you are done.
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:33 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?
>>  
>> If you are in the habit of buying Apple Care, it is $79.00 from Apple, or if 
>> you want Apple Care plus theft protection $149.00.
>> I’ve always purchased direct from Apple until my last phone when I had to 
>> buy from the carrier, Xfinity, because that was before they offered the 
>> program where you could bring a phone to them and get it set up with their 
>> service.
>> They didn’t offer Apple Care;; but their own warranty which was ridiculously 
>> expensive.
>> I went with Apple this time and since Xfinity wasn’t listed as one of the 
>> carriers they work with, I bought the no SIM model.
>>  
>> It is all down to personal preference.
>>  
>>  
>> Richard
>> "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.
>>  
>>  
>> From: 

Re: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

[Feliciano Godoy]

I could see how performance is affected if a Sim card is not working properly. 
But... like I said earlier, never had issues using an older Sim card on a new 
phone. Always did this on my new phone replacements and dozens of others that I 
have helped people set up.

Feliciano
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On Apr 18, 2020, at 11:05 AM, Mike B.  wrote:


Here's the post from earlier:

From: Richard Turner
Technically, the SE first generation and second generation take the same size 
SIM card.
However, the new SIM cards are much faster, so Apple recommends getting a new 
SIM card with the new phone.
I was told by an Apple staff person that I could set up the new phone with the 
old SE SIM, but should then get a new SIM card as the performance will be much 
better.
And, the new SE is a Dual SIM phone; as in one physical SIM and one eSIM just 
like the 11 and xs/xr phones if your carrier supports the eSIM.

Richard

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it 
cleans the toilet.
- Original Message -
From: Dennis Long
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 10:13 AM
Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

How will this make a difference?  My sim is less than a year old.  I don’t see 
how it will make a difference.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 1:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

According to an earlier post it's not beneficial to use your old SIM card 
because it'll hinder the performance of the new SE model.

Technically, the SE first generation and second generation take the same size 
SIM card.
However, the new SIM cards are much faster, so Apple recommends getting a new 
SIM card with the new phone.
I was told by an Apple staff person that I could set up the new phone with the 
old SE SIM, but should then get a new SIM card as the performance will be
much better.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it 
cleans the toilet.
- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 8:05 AM
Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

If you are planning to pay full price for a phone why not buy an unlocked phone 
directly from Apple. Then all you have to do when you get it is put your 
existing SIM in it and go through the setup screen and you are done.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

If you are in the habit of buying Apple Care, it is $79.00 from Apple, or if 
you want Apple Care plus theft protection $149.00.
I’ve always purchased direct from Apple until my last phone when I had to buy 
from the carrier, Xfinity, because that was before they offered the program 
where you could bring a phone to them and get it set up with their service.
They didn’t offer Apple Care;; but their own warranty which was ridiculously 
expensive.
I went with Apple this time and since Xfinity wasn’t listed as one of the 
carriers they work with, I bought the no SIM model.

It is all down to personal preference.


Richard
"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of R Van 
Lant
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

I’m ready to preorder the new SE 2020.  I can pay full price thanks to the 
stimulus check.  I’ve gotten my last two phones from Verizon, but wonder if 
there is a perk to buying from Apple directly.  The price appears the same.  
Verizon’s website says they’ll waive the activation fee if I buy online; maybe 
the same is true if I activate via Apple.  Verizon will unlock the phone after 
60 days.  Apple has helped me in the past when I locked myself out of my phone, 
even though I didn’t have Apple Care.  So, is there a reason to buy direct from 
Apple or is this just a preference thing?

Robin – ready to retire my 6S

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Re: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

[Mike B.]

Here's the post from earlier:

From: Richard Turner
Technically, the SE first generation and second generation take the same 
size SIM card.
However, the new SIM cards are much faster, so Apple recommends getting a 
new SIM card with the new phone.
I was told by an Apple staff person that I could set up the new phone with 
the old SE SIM, but should then get a new SIM card as the performance will 
be much better.
And, the new SE is a Dual SIM phone; as in one physical SIM and one eSIM 
just like the 11 and xs/xr phones if your carrier supports the eSIM.


Richard


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee 
it cleans the toilet.

- Original Message - 
From: Dennis Long
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 10:13 AM
Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?


How will this make a difference?  My sim is less than a year old.  I don’t 
see how it will make a difference.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
B.
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 1:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?



According to an earlier post it's not beneficial to use your old SIM card 
because it'll hinder the performance of the new SE model.



Technically, the SE first generation and second generation take the same 
size SIM card.
However, the new SIM cards are much faster, so Apple recommends getting a 
new SIM card with the new phone.
I was told by an Apple staff person that I could set up the new phone with 
the old SE SIM, but should then get a new SIM card as the performance will 
be
much better.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee 
it cleans the toilet.

- Original Message - 

From: Sieghard Weitzel

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 8:05 AM

Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?



If you are planning to pay full price for a phone why not buy an unlocked 
phone directly from Apple. Then all you have to do when you get it is put 
your existing SIM in it and go through the setup screen and you are done.





From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?



If you are in the habit of buying Apple Care, it is $79.00 from Apple, or if 
you want Apple Care plus theft protection $149.00.

I’ve always purchased direct from Apple until my last phone when I had to 
buy from the carrier, Xfinity, because that was before they offered the 
program where you could bring a phone to them and get it set up with their 
service.

They didn’t offer Apple Care;; but their own warranty which was ridiculously 
expensive.

I went with Apple this time and since Xfinity wasn’t listed as one of the 
carriers they work with, I bought the no SIM model.



It is all down to personal preference.





Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, 
Oregon.





From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of R Van 
Lant
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?



I’m ready to preorder the new SE 2020.  I can pay full price thanks to the 
stimulus check.  I’ve gotten my last two phones from Verizon, but wonder if 
there is a perk to buying from Apple directly.  The price appears the same. 
Verizon’s website says they’ll waive the activation fee if I buy online; 
maybe the same is true if I activate via Apple.  Verizon will unlock the 
phone after 60 days.  Apple has helped me in the past when I locked myself 
out of my phone, even though I didn’t have Apple Care.  So, is there a 
reason to buy direct from Apple or is this just a preference thing?



Robin – ready to retire my 6S



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Re: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

[Kelly Pierce]

Unless Verizon were offering a discount, as some carriers are for the
SE 2, I would buy directly from Apple or buy the phone from those
offering a discount.

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On 4/18/20, Dennis Long  wrote:
> Also if you don’t store your contacts on your sim you should be fine.  It
> won’t slow your phone down.  All it is used for is how to tell the phone to
> talk to the towers.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Peter
> Logan
> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 1:30 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?
>
>
>
> You should be fine .. worst case if what you have doesn’t work, then you can
> get a new one after the fact ..
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of
> Dennis Long
> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 1:13 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?
>
>
>
> How will this make a difference?  My sim is less than a year old.  I don’t
> see how it will make a difference.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of
> Mike B.
> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 1:01 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?
>
>
>
> According to an earlier post it's not beneficial to use your old SIM card
> because it'll hinder the performance of the new SE model.
>
>
>
> Technically, the SE first generation and second generation take the same
> size SIM card.
> However, the new SIM cards are much faster, so Apple recommends getting a
> new SIM card with the new phone.
> I was told by an Apple staff person that I could set up the new phone with
> the old SE SIM, but should then get a new SIM card as the performance will
> be
> much better.
>
>
> Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
>  *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee
> it cleans the toilet.
>
> - Original Message -
>
> From: Sieghard Weitzel 
>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>
> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 8:05 AM
>
> Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?
>
>
>
> If you are planning to pay full price for a phone why not buy an unlocked
> phone directly from Apple. Then all you have to do when you get it is put
> your existing SIM in it and go through the setup screen and you are done.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:33 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?
>
>
>
> If you are in the habit of buying Apple Care, it is $79.00 from Apple, or if
> you want Apple Care plus theft protection $149.00.
>
> I’ve always purchased direct from Apple until my last phone when I had to
> buy from the carrier, Xfinity, because that was before they offered the
> program where you could bring a phone to them and get it set up with their
> service.
>
> They didn’t offer Apple Care;; but their own warranty which was ridiculously
> expensive.
>
> I went with Apple this time and since Xfinity wasn’t listed as one of the
> carriers they work with, I bought the no SIM model.
>
>
>
> It is all down to personal preference.
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
>
> "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland,
> Oregon.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of R
> Van Lant
> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:07 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?
>
>
>
> I’m ready to preorder the new SE 2020.  I can pay full price thanks to the
> stimulus check.  I’ve gotten my last two phones from Verizon, but wonder if
> there is a perk to buying from Apple directly.  The price appears the same.
> Verizon’s website says they’ll waive the activation fee if I buy online;
> maybe the same is true if I activate via Apple.  Verizon will unlock the
> phone after 60 days.  Apple has helped me in the past when I locked myself
> out of my phone, even though I didn’t have Apple Care.  So, is there a
> reason to buy direct 

RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

[Dennis Long]

Also if you don’t store your contacts on your sim you should be fine.  It won’t 
slow your phone down.  All it is used for is how to tell the phone to talk to 
the towers.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Peter 
Logan
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 1:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

 

You should be fine .. worst case if what you have doesn’t work, then you can 
get a new one after the fact ..

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Dennis Long
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 1:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

 

How will this make a difference?  My sim is less than a year old.  I don’t see 
how it will make a difference.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Mike 
B.
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 1:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

 

According to an earlier post it's not beneficial to use your old SIM card 
because it'll hinder the performance of the new SE model.

 

Technically, the SE first generation and second generation take the same size 
SIM card. 
However, the new SIM cards are much faster, so Apple recommends getting a new 
SIM card with the new phone.
I was told by an Apple staff person that I could set up the new phone with the 
old SE SIM, but should then get a new SIM card as the performance will be
much better.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it 
cleans the toilet. 

- Original Message - 

From: Sieghard Weitzel   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 8:05 AM

Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

 

If you are planning to pay full price for a phone why not buy an unlocked phone 
directly from Apple. Then all you have to do when you get it is put your 
existing SIM in it and go through the setup screen and you are done.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

 

If you are in the habit of buying Apple Care, it is $79.00 from Apple, or if 
you want Apple Care plus theft protection $149.00.

I’ve always purchased direct from Apple until my last phone when I had to buy 
from the carrier, Xfinity, because that was before they offered the program 
where you could bring a phone to them and get it set up with their service.

They didn’t offer Apple Care;; but their own warranty which was ridiculously 
expensive.

I went with Apple this time and since Xfinity wasn’t listed as one of the 
carriers they work with, I bought the no SIM model.

 

It is all down to personal preference.

 

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of R 
Van Lant
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

 

I’m ready to preorder the new SE 2020.  I can pay full price thanks to the 
stimulus check.  I’ve gotten my last two phones from Verizon, but wonder if 
there is a perk to buying from Apple directly.  The price appears the same.  
Verizon’s website says they’ll waive the activation fee if I buy online; maybe 
the same is true if I activate via Apple.  Verizon will unlock the phone after 
60 days.  Apple has helped me in the past when I locked myself out of my phone, 
even though I didn’t have Apple Care.  So, is there a reason to buy direct from 
Apple or is this just a preference thing?   

 

Robin – ready to retire my 6S

 

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RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

[Peter Logan]

You should be fine .. worst case if what you have doesn’t work, then you can 
get a new one after the fact ..

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 1:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

 

How will this make a difference?  My sim is less than a year old.  I don’t see 
how it will make a difference.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Mike 
B.
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 1:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

 

According to an earlier post it's not beneficial to use your old SIM card 
because it'll hinder the performance of the new SE model.

 

Technically, the SE first generation and second generation take the same size 
SIM card. 
However, the new SIM cards are much faster, so Apple recommends getting a new 
SIM card with the new phone.
I was told by an Apple staff person that I could set up the new phone with the 
old SE SIM, but should then get a new SIM card as the performance will be
much better.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it 
cleans the toilet. 

- Original Message - 

From: Sieghard Weitzel   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 8:05 AM

Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

 

If you are planning to pay full price for a phone why not buy an unlocked phone 
directly from Apple. Then all you have to do when you get it is put your 
existing SIM in it and go through the setup screen and you are done.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
 On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

 

If you are in the habit of buying Apple Care, it is $79.00 from Apple, or if 
you want Apple Care plus theft protection $149.00.

I’ve always purchased direct from Apple until my last phone when I had to buy 
from the carrier, Xfinity, because that was before they offered the program 
where you could bring a phone to them and get it set up with their service.

They didn’t offer Apple Care;; but their own warranty which was ridiculously 
expensive.

I went with Apple this time and since Xfinity wasn’t listed as one of the 
carriers they work with, I bought the no SIM model.

 

It is all down to personal preference.

 

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of R 
Van Lant
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

 

I’m ready to preorder the new SE 2020.  I can pay full price thanks to the 
stimulus check.  I’ve gotten my last two phones from Verizon, but wonder if 
there is a perk to buying from Apple directly.  The price appears the same.  
Verizon’s website says they’ll waive the activation fee if I buy online; maybe 
the same is true if I activate via Apple.  Verizon will unlock the phone after 
60 days.  Apple has helped me in the past when I locked myself out of my phone, 
even though I didn’t have Apple Care.  So, is there a reason to buy direct from 
Apple or is this just a preference thing?   

 

Robin – ready to retire my 6S

 

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Re: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

[Feliciano Godoy]

Hi,
This is the first time I have heard this. I have used an older Sim card on my 
newer  iPhone without any issues. Also have helped others setting up new smart 
phones with their previous Sim card without any issues.

Feliciano
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On Apr 18, 2020, at 10:01 AM, Mike B.  wrote:


According to an earlier post it's not beneficial to use your old SIM card 
because it'll hinder the performance of the new SE model.

Technically, the SE first generation and second generation take the same size 
SIM card.
However, the new SIM cards are much faster, so Apple recommends getting a new 
SIM card with the new phone.
I was told by an Apple staff person that I could set up the new phone with the 
old SE SIM, but should then get a new SIM card as the performance will be
much better.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it 
cleans the toilet.
- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 8:05 AM
Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

If you are planning to pay full price for a phone why not buy an unlocked phone 
directly from Apple. Then all you have to do when you get it is put your 
existing SIM in it and go through the setup screen and you are done.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

If you are in the habit of buying Apple Care, it is $79.00 from Apple, or if 
you want Apple Care plus theft protection $149.00.
I’ve always purchased direct from Apple until my last phone when I had to buy 
from the carrier, Xfinity, because that was before they offered the program 
where you could bring a phone to them and get it set up with their service.
They didn’t offer Apple Care;; but their own warranty which was ridiculously 
expensive.
I went with Apple this time and since Xfinity wasn’t listed as one of the 
carriers they work with, I bought the no SIM model.

It is all down to personal preference.


Richard
"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of R Van 
Lant
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

I’m ready to preorder the new SE 2020.  I can pay full price thanks to the 
stimulus check.  I’ve gotten my last two phones from Verizon, but wonder if 
there is a perk to buying from Apple directly.  The price appears the same.  
Verizon’s website says they’ll waive the activation fee if I buy online; maybe 
the same is true if I activate via Apple.  Verizon will unlock the phone after 
60 days.  Apple has helped me in the past when I locked myself out of my phone, 
even though I didn’t have Apple Care.  So, is there a reason to buy direct from 
Apple or is this just a preference thing?

Robin – ready to retire my 6S

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RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

[Dennis Long]

How will this make a difference?  My sim is less than a year old.  I don’t see 
how it will make a difference.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 1:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

 

According to an earlier post it's not beneficial to use your old SIM card 
because it'll hinder the performance of the new SE model.

 

Technically, the SE first generation and second generation take the same size 
SIM card. 
However, the new SIM cards are much faster, so Apple recommends getting a new 
SIM card with the new phone.
I was told by an Apple staff person that I could set up the new phone with the 
old SE SIM, but should then get a new SIM card as the performance will be
much better.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it 
cleans the toilet. 

- Original Message - 

From: Sieghard Weitzel   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 8:05 AM

Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

 

If you are planning to pay full price for a phone why not buy an unlocked phone 
directly from Apple. Then all you have to do when you get it is put your 
existing SIM in it and go through the setup screen and you are done.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

 

If you are in the habit of buying Apple Care, it is $79.00 from Apple, or if 
you want Apple Care plus theft protection $149.00.

I’ve always purchased direct from Apple until my last phone when I had to buy 
from the carrier, Xfinity, because that was before they offered the program 
where you could bring a phone to them and get it set up with their service.

They didn’t offer Apple Care;; but their own warranty which was ridiculously 
expensive.

I went with Apple this time and since Xfinity wasn’t listed as one of the 
carriers they work with, I bought the no SIM model.

 

It is all down to personal preference.

 

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of R 
Van Lant
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

 

I’m ready to preorder the new SE 2020.  I can pay full price thanks to the 
stimulus check.  I’ve gotten my last two phones from Verizon, but wonder if 
there is a perk to buying from Apple directly.  The price appears the same.  
Verizon’s website says they’ll waive the activation fee if I buy online; maybe 
the same is true if I activate via Apple.  Verizon will unlock the phone after 
60 days.  Apple has helped me in the past when I locked myself out of my phone, 
even though I didn’t have Apple Care.  So, is there a reason to buy direct from 
Apple or is this just a preference thing?   

 

Robin – ready to retire my 6S

 

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Re: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

[Mike B.]

According to an earlier post it's not beneficial to use your old SIM card 
because it'll hinder the performance of the new SE model.

Technically, the SE first generation and second generation take the same 
size SIM card.
However, the new SIM cards are much faster, so Apple recommends getting a 
new SIM card with the new phone.
I was told by an Apple staff person that I could set up the new phone with 
the old SE SIM, but should then get a new SIM card as the performance will 
be
much better.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee 
it cleans the toilet.

- Original Message - 
From: Sieghard Weitzel
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 8:05 AM
Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?


If you are planning to pay full price for a phone why not buy an unlocked 
phone directly from Apple. Then all you have to do when you get it is put 
your existing SIM in it and go through the setup screen and you are done.





From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?



If you are in the habit of buying Apple Care, it is $79.00 from Apple, or if 
you want Apple Care plus theft protection $149.00.

I’ve always purchased direct from Apple until my last phone when I had to 
buy from the carrier, Xfinity, because that was before they offered the 
program where you could bring a phone to them and get it set up with their 
service.

They didn’t offer Apple Care;; but their own warranty which was ridiculously 
expensive.

I went with Apple this time and since Xfinity wasn’t listed as one of the 
carriers they work with, I bought the no SIM model.



It is all down to personal preference.





Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, 
Oregon.





From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of R Van 
Lant
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?



I’m ready to preorder the new SE 2020.  I can pay full price thanks to the 
stimulus check.  I’ve gotten my last two phones from Verizon, but wonder if 
there is a perk to buying from Apple directly.  The price appears the same. 
Verizon’s website says they’ll waive the activation fee if I buy online; 
maybe the same is true if I activate via Apple.  Verizon will unlock the 
phone after 60 days.  Apple has helped me in the past when I locked myself 
out of my phone, even though I didn’t have Apple Care.  So, is there a 
reason to buy direct from Apple or is this just a preference thing?



Robin – ready to retire my 6S



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RE: “Up date button” in App store

[Richard Turner]

In iOS 13 they changed things around.
My first choice for getting to updates is to do a one finger triple tap on the 
App Store icon.  This opens a context menu and you can flick right to updates.
Once there, if it doesn't show updates; which will be most of the way down the 
screen, try a three finger swipe down to refresh the page; then updates may 
appear.

The other way, is to open the App Store, and find the My Account button and 
double tap it.
The My Account doesn't make itself easy to find on the different tabs.  If it 
is there it will be near the upper right.

HTH,



Richard
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-Original Message-
From: 'Kimberly Samco' via VIPhone  
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 9:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: “Up date button” in App store

Hello,


I can’t open the Amazon app so I wanted to see if it needed updating but the 
update button isn’t in the lwer right corner anymore and I can’t find it.


Any info is appreciated on where the button is now.

Thanks,


Kim

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Re: “Up date button” in App store

[Anna Dresner]

Hi Kim,

I assume your phone is running iOS 13. If so, triple-tap the App Store icon. a 
menu comes up that includes Update. Double-tap that, and the Update screen will 
open. Near the bottom of the screen, you'll find an Update All button that says 
how many updates there are. Do a three-finger flick down to refresh the screen 
to make sure all the updates are showing.

Best,
Anna


> On Apr 18, 2020, at 11:21 AM, 'Kimberly Samco' via VIPhone 
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> Hello,
> 
> 
> I can’t open the Amazon app so I wanted to see if it needed updating but the 
> update button isn’t in the lwer right corner anymore and I can’t find it.
> 
> 
> Any info is appreciated on where the button is now.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> Kim
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“Up date button” in App store

['Kimberly Samco' via VIPhone]

Hello,


I can’t open the Amazon app so I wanted to see if it needed updating but the 
update button isn’t in the lwer right corner anymore and I can’t find it.


Any info is appreciated on where the button is now.

Thanks,


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Re: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

[Marie]

This is mainly just a personal choice. I tend to buy a simm free phone from 
Apple. For me, the Apple site is easier to navigate and purchase.
when you get the phone, you can go through all the setup without the simm card, 
and when you decide on a carrier (if you do not already have one chosen) you 
can then put in the simm card for the carrier you want or from your previous 
cell phone. From experience, I know if you switch from the old phone, there is 
no activation charge.

Marie

From: Dennis Long 
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 8:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

I agree.  It also gives you flexibility if you want to leave said carrier.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 11:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

 

If you are planning to pay full price for a phone why not buy an unlocked phone 
directly from Apple. Then all you have to do when you get it is put your 
existing SIM in it and go through the setup screen and you are done.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

 

If you are in the habit of buying Apple Care, it is $79.00 from Apple, or if 
you want Apple Care plus theft protection $149.00.

I’ve always purchased direct from Apple until my last phone when I had to buy 
from the carrier, Xfinity, because that was before they offered the program 
where you could bring a phone to them and get it set up with their service.

They didn’t offer Apple Care;; but their own warranty which was ridiculously 
expensive.

I went with Apple this time and since Xfinity wasn’t listed as one of the 
carriers they work with, I bought the no SIM model.

 

It is all down to personal preference.

 

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of R Van 
Lant
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

 

I’m ready to preorder the new SE 2020.  I can pay full price thanks to the 
stimulus check.  I’ve gotten my last two phones from Verizon, but wonder if 
there is a perk to buying from Apple directly.  The price appears the same.  
Verizon’s website says they’ll waive the activation fee if I buy online; maybe 
the same is true if I activate via Apple.  Verizon will unlock the phone after 
60 days.  Apple has helped me in the past when I locked myself out of my phone, 
even though I didn’t have Apple Care.  So, is there a reason to buy direct from 
Apple or is this just a preference thing?   

 

Robin – ready to retire my 6S

 

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RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

[Dennis Long]

I agree.  It also gives you flexibility if you want to leave said carrier.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 11:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

 

If you are planning to pay full price for a phone why not buy an unlocked phone 
directly from Apple. Then all you have to do when you get it is put your 
existing SIM in it and go through the setup screen and you are done.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

 

If you are in the habit of buying Apple Care, it is $79.00 from Apple, or if 
you want Apple Care plus theft protection $149.00.

I’ve always purchased direct from Apple until my last phone when I had to buy 
from the carrier, Xfinity, because that was before they offered the program 
where you could bring a phone to them and get it set up with their service.

They didn’t offer Apple Care;; but their own warranty which was ridiculously 
expensive.

I went with Apple this time and since Xfinity wasn’t listed as one of the 
carriers they work with, I bought the no SIM model.

 

It is all down to personal preference.

 

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.

 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of R 
Van Lant
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

 

I’m ready to preorder the new SE 2020.  I can pay full price thanks to the 
stimulus check.  I’ve gotten my last two phones from Verizon, but wonder if 
there is a perk to buying from Apple directly.  The price appears the same.  
Verizon’s website says they’ll waive the activation fee if I buy online; maybe 
the same is true if I activate via Apple.  Verizon will unlock the phone after 
60 days.  Apple has helped me in the past when I locked myself out of my phone, 
even though I didn’t have Apple Care.  So, is there a reason to buy direct from 
Apple or is this just a preference thing?   

 

Robin – ready to retire my 6S

 

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Re: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

[Feliciano Godoy]

Verizon wireless phones are locked for 60 days after the purchase. after that, 
the smart phone is unlocked automatically. since I don't plan to leave Verizon 
wireless, I purchased through them.

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On Apr 18, 2020, at 8:15 AM, Feliciano Godoy  wrote:

 Verizon Smart phones are locked 60 days after the pictures. After that 
period, the smart phone will be unlocked automatically. I personally don't plan 
to leave Verizon wireless. Therefore, I purchased through them.

Feliciano
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On Apr 18, 2020, at 8:06 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


If you are planning to pay full price for a phone why not buy an unlocked phone 
directly from Apple. Then all you have to do when you get it is put your 
existing SIM in it and go through the setup screen and you are done.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

If you are in the habit of buying Apple Care, it is $79.00 from Apple, or if 
you want Apple Care plus theft protection $149.00.
I’ve always purchased direct from Apple until my last phone when I had to buy 
from the carrier, Xfinity, because that was before they offered the program 
where you could bring a phone to them and get it set up with their service.
They didn’t offer Apple Care;; but their own warranty which was ridiculously 
expensive.
I went with Apple this time and since Xfinity wasn’t listed as one of the 
carriers they work with, I bought the no SIM model.

It is all down to personal preference.


Richard
"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of R Van 
Lant
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

I’m ready to preorder the new SE 2020.  I can pay full price thanks to the 
stimulus check.  I’ve gotten my last two phones from Verizon, but wonder if 
there is a perk to buying from Apple directly.  The price appears the same.  
Verizon’s website says they’ll waive the activation fee if I buy online; maybe 
the same is true if I activate via Apple.  Verizon will unlock the phone after 
60 days.  Apple has helped me in the past when I locked myself out of my phone, 
even though I didn’t have Apple Care.  So, is there a reason to buy direct from 
Apple or is this just a preference thing?

Robin – ready to retire my 6S

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Re: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

[Feliciano Godoy]

Verizon Smart phones are locked 60 days after the pictures. After that period, 
the smart phone will be unlocked automatically. I personally don't plan to 
leave Verizon wireless. Therefore, I purchased through them.

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On Apr 18, 2020, at 8:06 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


If you are planning to pay full price for a phone why not buy an unlocked phone 
directly from Apple. Then all you have to do when you get it is put your 
existing SIM in it and go through the setup screen and you are done.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

If you are in the habit of buying Apple Care, it is $79.00 from Apple, or if 
you want Apple Care plus theft protection $149.00.
I’ve always purchased direct from Apple until my last phone when I had to buy 
from the carrier, Xfinity, because that was before they offered the program 
where you could bring a phone to them and get it set up with their service.
They didn’t offer Apple Care;; but their own warranty which was ridiculously 
expensive.
I went with Apple this time and since Xfinity wasn’t listed as one of the 
carriers they work with, I bought the no SIM model.

It is all down to personal preference.


Richard
"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of R Van 
Lant
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

I’m ready to preorder the new SE 2020.  I can pay full price thanks to the 
stimulus check.  I’ve gotten my last two phones from Verizon, but wonder if 
there is a perk to buying from Apple directly.  The price appears the same.  
Verizon’s website says they’ll waive the activation fee if I buy online; maybe 
the same is true if I activate via Apple.  Verizon will unlock the phone after 
60 days.  Apple has helped me in the past when I locked myself out of my phone, 
even though I didn’t have Apple Care.  So, is there a reason to buy direct from 
Apple or is this just a preference thing?

Robin – ready to retire my 6S

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RE: the poop from Apple about the new SE sim card

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Fazil,

If you have a dual SIM phone and one of your providers supports eSIM then yes, 
you could activate service with 1 number from, for example, Telus here in 
Canada using eSIM and then buy a Rogers Nano SIM which would come with a 
different number and use it at the same time.
I don’t have a dual SIM phone, but I assume you could have one ringtone for one 
number and a different ringtone for the other number.
There is of course the question why you would want to do this and pay for 2 
cell plans which would get pretty expensive unless you are employed somewhere 
and your employer pays for one plan, then you could have a single phone for 
both work and private use. I have my own business and while it would be nice to 
have a dedicated business cell number, I think I’d be to cheap to pay for 2 
plans.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fazil
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the poop from Apple about the new SE sim card

Can I have two numbers from two different providers?
Thanks!

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 2:56 AM
To: ViPone list 
Subject: the poop from Apple about the new SE sim card

Technically, the SE first generation and second generation take the same size 
SIM card.
However, the new SIM cards are much faster, so Apple recommends getting a new 
SIM card with the new phone.
I was told by an Apple staff person that I could set up the new phone with the 
old SE SIM, but should then get a new SIM card as the performance will be much 
better.
And, the new SE is a Dual SIM phone; as in one physical SIM and one eSIM just 
like the 11 and xs/xr phones if your carrier supports the eSIM.

Richard

(Sent from my iPhone SE)
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RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

If you are planning to pay full price for a phone why not buy an unlocked phone 
directly from Apple. Then all you have to do when you get it is put your 
existing SIM in it and go through the setup screen and you are done.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

If you are in the habit of buying Apple Care, it is $79.00 from Apple, or if 
you want Apple Care plus theft protection $149.00.
I’ve always purchased direct from Apple until my last phone when I had to buy 
from the carrier, Xfinity, because that was before they offered the program 
where you could bring a phone to them and get it set up with their service.
They didn’t offer Apple Care;; but their own warranty which was ridiculously 
expensive.
I went with Apple this time and since Xfinity wasn’t listed as one of the 
carriers they work with, I bought the no SIM model.

It is all down to personal preference.


Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of R Van 
Lant
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

I’m ready to preorder the new SE 2020.  I can pay full price thanks to the 
stimulus check.  I’ve gotten my last two phones from Verizon, but wonder if 
there is a perk to buying from Apple directly.  The price appears the same.  
Verizon’s website says they’ll waive the activation fee if I buy online; maybe 
the same is true if I activate via Apple.  Verizon will unlock the phone after 
60 days.  Apple has helped me in the past when I locked myself out of my phone, 
even though I didn’t have Apple Care.  So, is there a reason to buy direct from 
Apple or is this just a preference thing?

Robin – ready to retire my 6S

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RE: What happens with old phone when you order a new one?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

All I ever do is take the SIM from my old phone and  put it  in my new phone 
and that is it.
The old phone then still works on WiFi for everything except regular phone 
calls, but as long as you are on WiFi you can still make Facetime calls and so 
on.
If you ever want to sell the old phone just turn off Find my iPhone, sign out 
and then go to Settings > General > Reset and do a full reset. This will erase 
everything and the phone will reboot to the same “Slide to Setup” screen you 
have when you get a brand new phone. I f a blind person buys the phone they can 
at this point press the home button 3 times and Voiceover would start just as 
on a brand-new phone coming out of a box.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kimberly
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What happens with old phone when you order a new one?

As soon as you activate the new phone you will no longer be able to make calls 
from the old phone. You can activate over the phone by calling your provider.
Sent from Kimber's iPhone

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on.—Annie Proulx


On Apr 17, 2020, at 1:29 PM, Kathy Brandt  wrote:
Is it set up so that your old phone automatically is deactivated, or do you 
have to go to the store and do it? The nearest AT stores are closed.  Would 
it be that for a time both phones are active until the old one is deactivated? 
Just not sure what to expect, as I always went to the Apple store on launch day 
and they did whatever there.

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RE: the poop from Apple about the new SE sim card

[Fazil]

What about if only the secondary carrier does that, can I use their eSIM?

Thanks!

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the poop from Apple about the new SE sim card

 

Technically yes, if your primary carrier offers eSIM, Electronic SIM cards.  
The eSIM becomes the default, then when traveling you can buy a physical SIM 
card from any carrier.

 

 

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Fazil
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: the poop from Apple about the new SE sim card

 

Can I have two numbers from two different providers?

Thanks!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 2:56 AM
To: ViPone list mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: the poop from Apple about the new SE sim card

 

Technically, the SE first generation and second generation take the same size 
SIM card. 

However, the new SIM cards are much faster, so Apple recommends getting a new 
SIM card with the new phone.

I was told by an Apple staff person that I could set up the new phone with the 
old SE SIM, but should then get a new SIM card as the performance will be much 
better.

And, the new SE is a Dual SIM phone; as in one physical SIM and one eSIM just 
like the 11 and xs/xr phones if your carrier supports the eSIM.

 

Richard

 

(Sent from my iPhone SE)

C

 

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RE: the poop from Apple about the new SE sim card

[Richard Turner]

Technically yes, if your primary carrier offers eSIM, Electronic SIM cards.  
The eSIM becomes the default, then when traveling you can buy a physical SIM 
card from any carrier.



Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fazil
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the poop from Apple about the new SE sim card

Can I have two numbers from two different providers?
Thanks!

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 2:56 AM
To: ViPone list mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: the poop from Apple about the new SE sim card

Technically, the SE first generation and second generation take the same size 
SIM card.
However, the new SIM cards are much faster, so Apple recommends getting a new 
SIM card with the new phone.
I was told by an Apple staff person that I could set up the new phone with the 
old SE SIM, but should then get a new SIM card as the performance will be much 
better.
And, the new SE is a Dual SIM phone; as in one physical SIM and one eSIM just 
like the 11 and xs/xr phones if your carrier supports the eSIM.

Richard

(Sent from my iPhone SE)
C


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RE: the poop from Apple about the new SE sim card

[Richard Turner]

You probably did the right thing in your case, but if the SIM cards are more 
than a couple years old, you may want to consider requesting a new SIM from 
your carrier according to what Apple told me yesterday about the new SIM cards 
being faster and improving performance.
This is out of my league, so just passing on information.  Check with Apple to 
confirm and/or your carrier.
.



Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of DJ
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: the poop from Apple about the new SE sim card

Yes. You did the right thing, and it will work.


On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 10:21 AM Deidre Muccio 
mailto:deidreandlou...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I may be really daft here, I hope not. I ordered a phone yesterday with the 
help of Aira. I have a lifetime chip from T-Mobile. So I ordered a Phone 
without a chip or without a Sim card question what did I do question I said no 
I would put my own chip in to the Aira guy so we ordered one where I could swap 
out any chip I wanted. Did I do the right thing?
Deidre


On Apr 18, 2020, at 9:15 AM, Peter Logan 
mailto:pdlloga...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Yes, unless you choose the Sim free option…
Sent from my IPhome.


On Apr 18, 2020, at 8:53 AM, Anthony Vece 
mailto:ajv...@gmail.com>> wrote:

It’s my understanding that when you order a new phone you automatically get a 
new Sim card.
Is that correct

Sent from my iPad


On Apr 18, 2020, at 5:56 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
 Technically, the SE first generation and second generation take the same size 
SIM card.
However, the new SIM cards are much faster, so Apple recommends getting a new 
SIM card with the new phone.
I was told by an Apple staff person that I could set up the new phone with the 
old SE SIM, but should then get a new SIM card as the performance will be much 
better.
And, the new SE is a Dual SIM phone; as in one physical SIM and one eSIM just 
like the 11 and xs/xr phones if your carrier supports the eSIM.

Richard

(Sent from my iPhone SE)
C


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RE: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

[Richard Turner]

If you are in the habit of buying Apple Care, it is $79.00 from Apple, or if 
you want Apple Care plus theft protection $149.00.
I’ve always purchased direct from Apple until my last phone when I had to buy 
from the carrier, Xfinity, because that was before they offered the program 
where you could bring a phone to them and get it set up with their service.
They didn’t offer Apple Care;; but their own warranty which was ridiculously 
expensive.
I went with Apple this time and since Xfinity wasn’t listed as one of the 
carriers they work with, I bought the no SIM model.

It is all down to personal preference.


Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of R Van 
Lant
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

I’m ready to preorder the new SE 2020.  I can pay full price thanks to the 
stimulus check.  I’ve gotten my last two phones from Verizon, but wonder if 
there is a perk to buying from Apple directly.  The price appears the same.  
Verizon’s website says they’ll waive the activation fee if I buy online; maybe 
the same is true if I activate via Apple.  Verizon will unlock the phone after 
60 days.  Apple has helped me in the past when I locked myself out of my phone, 
even though I didn’t have Apple Care.  So, is there a reason to buy direct from 
Apple or is this just a preference thing?

Robin – ready to retire my 6S

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Re: the poop from Apple about the new SE sim card

[DJ]

Yes. You did the right thing, and it will work.


On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 10:21 AM Deidre Muccio 
wrote:

> I may be really daft here, I hope not. I ordered a phone yesterday with
> the help of Aira. I have a lifetime chip from T-Mobile. So I ordered a
> Phone without a chip or without a Sim card question what did I do question
> I said no I would put my own chip in to the Aira guy so we ordered one
> where I could swap out any chip I wanted. Did I do the right thing?
>
> Deidre
>
>
> On Apr 18, 2020, at 9:15 AM, Peter Logan  wrote:
>
> Yes, unless you choose the Sim free option…
>
> Sent from my IPhome.
>
> On Apr 18, 2020, at 8:53 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
>
> 
> It’s my understanding that when you order a new phone you automatically
> get a new Sim card.
> Is that correct
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Apr 18, 2020, at 5:56 AM, Richard Turner 
> wrote:
>
>  Technically, the SE first generation and second generation take the same
> size SIM card.
> However, the new SIM cards are much faster, so Apple recommends getting a
> new SIM card with the new phone.
> I was told by an Apple staff person that I could set up the new phone with
> the old SE SIM, but should then get a new SIM card as the performance will
> be much better.
> And, the new SE is a Dual SIM phone; as in one physical SIM and one eSIM
> just like the 11 and xs/xr phones if your carrier supports the eSIM.
>
>
> Richard
>
>
> (Sent from my iPhone SE)
>
> C
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Re: the poop from Apple about the new SE sim card

[Deidre Muccio]

I may be really daft here, I hope not. I ordered a phone yesterday with the 
help of Aira. I have a lifetime chip from T-Mobile. So I ordered a Phone 
without a chip or without a Sim card question what did I do question I said no 
I would put my own chip in to the Aira guy so we ordered one where I could swap 
out any chip I wanted. Did I do the right thing?

Deidre


> On Apr 18, 2020, at 9:15 AM, Peter Logan  wrote:
> 
> Yes, unless you choose the Sim free option…
> 
> Sent from my IPhome.
> 
>> On Apr 18, 2020, at 8:53 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> It’s my understanding that when you order a new phone you automatically get 
>> a new Sim card.
>> Is that correct
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Apr 18, 2020, at 5:56 AM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Technically, the SE first generation and second generation take the same 
>>> size SIM card.
>>> However, the new SIM cards are much faster, so Apple recommends getting a 
>>> new SIM card with the new phone.
>>> I was told by an Apple staff person that I could set up the new phone with 
>>> the old SE SIM, but should then get a new SIM card as the performance will 
>>> be much better.
>>> And, the new SE is a Dual SIM phone; as in one physical SIM and one eSIM 
>>> just like the 11 and xs/xr phones if your carrier supports the eSIM.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
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>>> (Sent from my iPhone SE)
>>> C
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Re: to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

[Feliciano Godoy]

Samething. I always buy from Verizon.

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On Apr 18, 2020, at 7:07 AM, R Van Lant  wrote:


I’m ready to preorder the new SE 2020.  I can pay full price thanks to the 
stimulus check.  I’ve gotten my last two phones from Verizon, but wonder if 
there is a perk to buying from Apple directly.  The price appears the same.  
Verizon’s website says they’ll waive the activation fee if I buy online; maybe 
the same is true if I activate via Apple.  Verizon will unlock the phone after 
60 days.  Apple has helped me in the past when I locked myself out of my phone, 
even though I didn’t have Apple Care.  So, is there a reason to buy direct from 
Apple or is this just a preference thing?

Robin – ready to retire my 6S


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to buy SE 2020 from Verizon or Apple?

[R Van Lant]

I'm ready to preorder the new SE 2020.  I can pay full price thanks to the 
stimulus check.  I've gotten my last two phones from Verizon, but wonder if 
there is a perk to buying from Apple directly.  The price appears the same.  
Verizon's website says they'll waive the activation fee if I buy online; maybe 
the same is true if I activate via Apple.  Verizon will unlock the phone after 
60 days.  Apple has helped me in the past when I locked myself out of my phone, 
even though I didn't have Apple Care.  So, is there a reason to buy direct from 
Apple or is this just a preference thing?

Robin - ready to retire my 6S

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RE: the poop from Apple about the new SE sim card

[Fazil]

Can I have two numbers from two different providers?

Thanks!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 2:56 AM
To: ViPone list 
Subject: the poop from Apple about the new SE sim card

 

Technically, the SE first generation and second generation take the same size 
SIM card. 

However, the new SIM cards are much faster, so Apple recommends getting a new 
SIM card with the new phone.

I was told by an Apple staff person that I could set up the new phone with the 
old SE SIM, but should then get a new SIM card as the performance will be much 
better.

And, the new SE is a Dual SIM phone; as in one physical SIM and one eSIM just 
like the 11 and xs/xr phones if your carrier supports the eSIM.

 

Richard

 

(Sent from my iPhone SE)

C

 

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Re: What happens with old phone when you order a new one?

[Kimberly]

As soon as you activate the new phone you will no longer be able to make calls 
from the old phone. You can activate over the phone by calling your provider. 

Sent from Kimber's iPhone
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> On Apr 17, 2020, at 1:29 PM, Kathy Brandt  wrote:
> 
> Is it set up so that your old phone automatically is deactivated, or do you 
> have to go to the store and do it? The nearest AT stores are closed.  Would 
> it be that for a time both phones are active until the old one is 
> deactivated? Just not sure what to expect, as I always went to the Apple 
> store on launch day and they did whatever there.
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RE: the poop from Apple about the new SE sim card

[Dennis Long]

If you order unlocked from apple I would say probably not.If you said your 
going to use it on Verizon than you might get one.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anthony 
Vece
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 8:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: the poop from Apple about the new SE sim card

 

It’s my understanding that when you order a new phone you automatically get a 
new Sim card.

Is that correct

 

Sent from my iPad





On Apr 18, 2020, at 5:56 AM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 Technically, the SE first generation and second generation take the same size 
SIM card. 

However, the new SIM cards are much faster, so Apple recommends getting a new 
SIM card with the new phone.

I was told by an Apple staff person that I could set up the new phone with the 
old SE SIM, but should then get a new SIM card as the performance will be much 
better.

And, the new SE is a Dual SIM phone; as in one physical SIM and one eSIM just 
like the 11 and xs/xr phones if your carrier supports the eSIM.

 

Richard

 

(Sent from my iPhone SE)

C

 

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Re: the poop from Apple about the new SE sim card

[Peter Logan]

Yes, unless you choose the Sim free option…

Sent from my IPhome.

> On Apr 18, 2020, at 8:53 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
> 
> 
> It’s my understanding that when you order a new phone you automatically get a 
> new Sim card.
> Is that correct
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>>> On Apr 18, 2020, at 5:56 AM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>  Technically, the SE first generation and second generation take the same 
>> size SIM card.
>> However, the new SIM cards are much faster, so Apple recommends getting a 
>> new SIM card with the new phone.
>> I was told by an Apple staff person that I could set up the new phone with 
>> the old SE SIM, but should then get a new SIM card as the performance will 
>> be much better.
>> And, the new SE is a Dual SIM phone; as in one physical SIM and one eSIM 
>> just like the 11 and xs/xr phones if your carrier supports the eSIM.
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> (Sent from my iPhone SE)
>> C
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Re: Lightning to USB 3 Camera Adapter

[Russ Kiehne]

The Lightning to USB 3 Camera Adapter has a lightning port.  You would connect 
the charger to the lightning port at the same time you connect the flash drive.

From: Simon A Fogarty 
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 2:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Lightning to USB 3 Camera Adapter

Richard 

 

Unless it has changed the lightening to usb adapter isn’t going to work from a 
phone 

 

There is not enough power output from the phone to power a USB flash drive.

 

I’m not sure how this would go if you used a usb powered hub, but the adapter 
alone didn’t work for me years ago with my phone at the time,

I think it was a 7.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, 18 April 2020 10:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Lightning to USB 3 Camera Adapter

 

For anyone who was wondering, the one I was thinking of is the Lightning to USB 
3 Camera Adapter.

$39 from Apple.

Allows the use of USB sticks at least.

 

Later,

 

 

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.

 

 

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Re: the poop from Apple about the new SE sim card

[Anthony Vece]

It’s my understanding that when you order a new phone you automatically get a 
new Sim card.
Is that correct

Sent from my iPad

> On Apr 18, 2020, at 5:56 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
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>  Technically, the SE first generation and second generation take the same 
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> much better.
> And, the new SE is a Dual SIM phone; as in one physical SIM and one eSIM just 
> like the 11 and xs/xr phones if your carrier supports the eSIM.
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> (Sent from my iPhone SE)
> C
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Re: Ordered a new SE this morning

[Russ Kiehne]

Is this what you want?

Below is the link to purchase from the Apple store

Lightning to USB 3 Camera Adapter

https://store.apple.com/xc/product/MK0W2AM/A



From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 8:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning

The online process was very easy.

I tried calling first because I wanted to add one other accessory, and after 
sitting on hold for 20 minutes, I did the online method in about 4 minutes.

I’ll get the extra accessory later.

 

 

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Deidre 
Muccio
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 8:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Ordered a new SE this morning

 

I also ordered a Phone this morning. The process was flawless. No hitches 
though I did use Aira. The guy in Mexico put the order in for me. My iPhone 6 
was only worth the $30 credit. I decided to keep it. I was impressed that the 
site did not crash.it looks like there may not be the rush that I was 
expecting. To pre-order these phones. Or maybe there was an Apple’s site is 
very fine tuned.

Deidre

 


On Apr 17, 2020, at 8:39 AM,   wrote:

  Good morning,

   

  With my sighted wife’s help I ordered a new SE, black, 128 Gb, with Apple 
Care  and arranged to trade in my old iphone 8. We were online right at 7 AM 
CDT. It took us 13 minutes from start to finish which I thought was pretty 
good. I think we had to restart the process twice. It is supposed  to be 
delivered next Friday, April 24. I had to pay the full price plus tax and they 
ship me a package with labels so I can send them the iphone 8. When they get 
the 8 they will credit my account $170.00. I didn’t want to try to sell the old 
one locally.

   

  That’s my story, hope you’re all doing well in these strange times.

  Joe 

   

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Re: What SIM Card is used by second generation iPhone SE was RE: Apple Newsroom: iPhone SE: A powerful new smartphone in a popular design

[Dave]

Hi Simon. It's just an E-Sim, and a Nano Sim.

Dave.


-Original Message- 
From: Simon A Fogarty

Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 9:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What SIM Card is used by second generation iPhone SE was RE: 
Apple Newsroom: iPhone SE: A powerful new smartphone in a popular design


If I read the apple specs correctly it has a nano sim plus e sim and I think 
it said a second physical sim option as well.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly

Sent: Saturday, 18 April 2020 4:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: What SIM Card is used by second generation iPhone SE was RE: Apple 
Newsroom: iPhone SE: A powerful new smartphone in a popular design


Richard,

The following article says the original iPhone SE used a nano SIM card and I 
be very surprised if the second generation SE didn't use a nano SIM as well:


https://www.whistleout.com/CellPhones/Faqs/228234328-What-size-SIM-card-does-an-iPhone-SE-use-

But let us know if you find out anything different.

Alan Lemly

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Richard Turner

Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 8:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Newsroom: iPhone SE: A powerful new smartphone in a 
popular design


The New SE nor the old SE can take memory cards directly.
From what I read, the New SE also uses a different SIM card, but I plan to 

check that out for sure with Apple.
The memory card that I mentioned is with a separate adapter that plugs into 
the lightning port and allows you to use external memory cards.




Richard
"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, 
Oregon.



-Original Message-
From: 'Husna Begum' via VIPhone 
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 6:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Newsroom: iPhone SE: A powerful new smartphone in a 
popular design


hi,

can you use any memory card then? and is a slot available to put the memory 
card into either in the old SE or the new SE?


thanks


-Original Message-
From: Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 3:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Newsroom: iPhone SE: A powerful new smartphone in a 
popular design


And, since iOS 13, you can use a $30 adaptor to access external memory 
cards.




Richard
"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, 
Oregon.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
Merritt

Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 6:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Newsroom: iPhone SE: A powerful new smartphone in a 
popular design


My 2 cents: If you don't have a good reason for getting 256 gigs of storage, 
save some money and don't do it. I had an iPhone with 256 gigs storage and 
for most of the year I had the phone, I didn't store more than 50 gigs. I'm 
sticking to the 128 gig storage phones, unless I suddenly come across a huge 
need for more storage. 128 suits me fine though, since about half is taken 
up with music, books, and apps, and I've got lots of storage to go before 
getting close to filling up my phone.


Respectfully,
Wayne Merritt

On 4/16/20, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:

Wait for the questions of how much does my phone have!

Good answer.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, 16 April 2020 11:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Newsroom: iPhone SE: A powerful new smartphone in a
popular design

The iPhone 6S/6S Plus, the original SE, the 7/7 Plus and the 8/8 Plus
all have 2 Gb of RAM. The original iPhone X which was released in 2017
along with the iPhone 8/8 Plus has 3 Gb.
The 2018 iPhone XR also has 3 Gb whereas the iPhone XS and XS Max have
4 Gb.
The 2019 models are the iPhone 11 also with 4 Gb and the iPhone 11 Pro
and Pro Max with 6 Gb.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf
Of Marie
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 2:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Newsroom: iPhone SE: A powerful new smartphone in a
popular design

It has 3GB of ram. Not sure how to check the current phone you have.

Marie

From: Kay Malmquist
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 2:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Newsroom: iPhone SE: A powerful new smartphone in a
popular design

Does anyone remember how much ram is going to be on this new phone?
And also, how do you find out how much ram is on your current phone.
I am not talking about storage space on the phone.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

 All is well.
Everything is working out for my highest good.
Out of this situation only good will come.

Louise Hay
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From: Alan Lemly
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Sent: Wednesday, 

the poop from Apple about the new SE sim card

[Richard Turner]

Technically, the SE first generation and second generation take the same size 
SIM card.
However, the new SIM cards are much faster, so Apple recommends getting a new 
SIM card with the new phone.
I was told by an Apple staff person that I could set up the new phone with the 
old SE SIM, but should then get a new SIM card as the performance will be much 
better.
And, the new SE is a Dual SIM phone; as in one physical SIM and one eSIM just 
like the 11 and xs/xr phones if your carrier supports the eSIM.


Richard

(Sent from my iPhone SE)
C

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Re: Lightning to USB 3 Camera Adapter

[Richard Turner]

To be clear, I hope, the adapter will work on any device running iOS 13 for 
thumb drives, IE, memory sticks, the little ones you can carry in a pocket ... 
and it will work with the larger external flash drives if the flash drive is 
independently powered.
I am only interested in the little thumb drives so not the external flash 
drives like you would use to back up a computers hard drive.
I got the clarification from Apple.
Since I do not have an external hard/flash drive that has its own power source, 
and only plan to use the smaller thumb drives, this will work for me.
Thanks,


Richard

(Sent from my iPhone SE)
C


On Apr 18, 2020, at 2:02 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:


Richard

Unless it has changed the lightening to usb adapter isn’t going to work from a 
phone

There is not enough power output from the phone to power a USB flash drive.

I’m not sure how this would go if you used a usb powered hub, but the adapter 
alone didn’t work for me years ago with my phone at the time,
I think it was a 7.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, 18 April 2020 10:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Lightning to USB 3 Camera Adapter

For anyone who was wondering, the one I was thinking of is the Lightning to USB 
3 Camera Adapter.
$39 from Apple.
Allows the use of USB sticks at least.

Later,



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RE: Lightning to USB 3 Camera Adapter

[Simon A Fogarty]

Richard

Unless it has changed the lightening to usb adapter isn’t going to work from a 
phone

There is not enough power output from the phone to power a USB flash drive.

I’m not sure how this would go if you used a usb powered hub, but the adapter 
alone didn’t work for me years ago with my phone at the time,
I think it was a 7.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, 18 April 2020 10:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Lightning to USB 3 Camera Adapter

For anyone who was wondering, the one I was thinking of is the Lightning to USB 
3 Camera Adapter.
$39 from Apple.
Allows the use of USB sticks at least.

Later,



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RE: Ordered a new SE this morning

[Simon A Fogarty]

I’m using a first edition se for a work phone and I will keep using it until 
they get me a new one.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of kitty 
hevener
Sent: Saturday, 18 April 2020 8:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning

Richrd, thanks.   Wonder how long will be able to use my current se.  I hope at 
least another year or two.

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 4:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Ordered a new SE this morning

It is not the same size as the old one.
It is more the size of the standard iPhone 8.
So current cases will not fit it.

The old SE is worth $30 in trade.
I plan to use my old one as a music and book player as a WiFi only device.


(Sent from my iPhone SE)
C



On Apr 17, 2020, at 12:52 PM, kitty hevener 
mailto:kheve...@earthlink.net>> wrote:

For clarification, is the new SE the same size as the old one?  Has anyone 
tried trading in the old se for the new one?  Any luck?

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Fazil
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 2:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning

Is SE 2 better than iPhone8 in any ways?
Thanks!

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 5:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Ordered a new SE this morning

Good morning,

With my sighted wife’s help I ordered a new SE, black, 128 Gb, with Apple Care  
and arranged to trade in my old iphone 8. We were online right at 7 AM CDT. It 
took us 13 minutes from start to finish which I thought was pretty good. I 
think we had to restart the process twice. It is supposed  to be delivered next 
Friday, April 24. I had to pay the full price plus tax and they ship me a 
package with labels so I can send them the iphone 8. When they get the 8 they 
will credit my account $170.00. I didn’t want to try to sell the old one 
locally.

That’s my story, hope you’re all doing well in these strange times.
Joe

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