Re: iPhone 8, worth it now?

[lenron brown]

As someone has already said if you have Tmobile pay the 400 and buy
direct from them or even apple. Once a device is completely paid off
the company unlocks it anyways, but if you buy unlocked even better.

On 8/4/20, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> I am pretty sure you can send Apple Store gift cards electronically and once
> again, why buy an iPhone from Amazon which is locked to Cricket when you can
> buy an unlocked one from Apple directly. This makes no sense.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Portia Scott
> Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 9:39 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPhone 8, worth it now?
>
> Lol!
> I could never hurt family like that.
> Plus, we’re still sheltering in place here.
>
>> On Aug 3, 2020, at 9:11 PM, Holly  wrote:
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>> Portia:
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>> Maybe you could sell your Amazon gift card for cash.  Hahahaha.
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RE: iPhone 8, worth it now?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I am pretty sure you can send Apple Store gift cards electronically and once 
again, why buy an iPhone from Amazon which is locked to Cricket when you can 
buy an unlocked one from Apple directly. This makes no sense.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Portia 
Scott
Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 9:39 PM
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Subject: Re: iPhone 8, worth it now?

Lol!
I could never hurt family like that.
Plus, we’re still sheltering in place here.

> On Aug 3, 2020, at 9:11 PM, Holly  wrote:
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> Portia:
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> Maybe you could sell your Amazon gift card for cash.  Hahahaha.
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RE: iPhone 8, worth it now?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Why would you buy an iPhone from anybody but Apple or your provider? As Holly 
pointed out, the basic configuration with 64Gb of memory should be $399 and 
anything more is a rip-off.
Amazon is great for many things, but iPhones usually are not on sale and if 
they are it's usually a promotion by a large retailer like Best t Buy, Target 
or Walmart (I am in Canada, but I am talking about the United States) where 
maybe you get a gift card when you buy an iPhone, but you still pay whatever 
Apple says the price for the iPhone should be.
If you want to get a new iPhone ask your family to buy you Apple Store gift 
cards and make sure they don't buy iTunes gift cards, you can't use them for 
hardware.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Portia 
Scott
Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 8:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 8, worth it now?

Man!! I wish I could find the SE 2 for cheaper than $599 to almost $1000. 
Everywhere I look, it is so darn expensive! And since I’d be going off of 
Amazon, they have it, but locked to Cricket. Which, sadly, I do not have, so 
that wouldn’t work.

> On Aug 3, 2020, at 2:25 PM, Robin  wrote:
> 
> Would Recommend & Suggest  you Look InTo the SE 2020 i.e., Apple's 2020 
> iPhoneSE as Opposed to Apple's iPhone8, as  I  heard that Apple Retired  the 
> 8  i.e.,  its iPhone8  after it Launched  & Relased  the SE 2020.
> The SE 2020  (From What I  Hear) comes  in the Form  & Frame  of the 8, but 
> with the Specs (most of them) from  the 2019 Models of the iPhone with Few 
> Exceptions  & the Specs that aren't there, are from the 8.
> 
> At 11:18 PM 8/2/2020, you wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> My mother is thinking of having my grandma give me Amazon gift cards towards 
>> an iPhone 8 for my birthday next month, as well as helping to fund it 
>> herself.
>> 
>> Does anyone still use one? I cannot afford one of the phones with Face ID, 
>> and could hardly get my old iPhone X to recognize my face half the time, 
>> hence why I gave it back to T-Mobile about a year and a half ago,  or maybe 
>> it was two years… lol.
>> But anyway, between the iPhone SE 2, and the iPhone 8, which one would you 
>> guys recommend? As I said, I am looking for something with Touch ID. Not 
>> just cause of not getting it to unlock hardly. That is part of it, but the 
>> other reason, is I have Cerebral Palsy in my whole right side and so having 
>> something with Touch ID would be easier for me.
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RE: Accessible screen recorder

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Has Apple fixed the issue that screenrecorder does not include Voicceover audio?


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Isaac 
Hebert
Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 11:12 AM
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Subject: Re: Accessible screen recorder

No screen recording can record from the iPhone's speaker as well.

On 8/3/20, Fazil  wrote:
> Would that record through headphone only?
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Jennie Facer
> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2020 9:12 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Accessible screen recorder
>
>
>
> Hi Mitch,
>
>
>
> What you have to do is go into settings and control center.
>
> Next, add screen recording to the controls.
>
> Now, you open control center and flick right to the screen recording 
> feature.
>
> Fl;ick up on this feature to open the controls.
>
> Next, enable the Microphone.
>
> Next, double tap on start recording.
>
> Now go ahead and do your screen recording and then go back into 
> control center and stop the screen recording. Double tap on the item 
> that says selected screen recording. This will stop the recording and 
> then it will put it in your photos.
>
>
>
> Hope this explains it,
>
>
>
> Jenn
>
>
>
> Jenn and Kumi
>
>   _
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > on 
> behalf of Mich Verrier mailto:mi...@eastlink.ca> >
> Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 9:34:46 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
> Subject: RE: Accessible screen recorder
>
>
>
> Hi all I to would like to know where this accessible screen recorder 
> is to please I have a I phone 8 from Mich.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On 
> Behalf Of Ian Harrison
> Sent: August 3, 2020 11:29 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: Accessible screen recorder
>
> Oh ok. Where do the recordings go?
>
> Thanks very much
>
>> On 3 Aug 2020, at 11:37, Ian Harrison >  > wrote:
>>
>> Hi listers,
>> does anyone know of a simple and accessible screen recorder for use 
>> on the iPhone? I need it for uni work. There are plenty out there but 
>> I need one that works with voice over.
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>> Ian
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RE: learning new things on my iPhone so cool!!!!!

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Do you have "Show Previews" set to "Always"? This in Settings > Notifications
Also, in Settings > Notifications > Messages do you have "Allow on lockscreen" 
enabled?


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 7:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Even if I get a text message from one of my contacts, Siri tells me I have to 
unlock the screen for her to read it. 

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Kenny
Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 8:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Really? Maybe you need too have the texter in your contacts. I can respond too 
a text by voice, without having too unlock my phone first. 
Their in my Contacts list though.


On 8/2/2020 8:54 PM, Carolyn wrote:
> Siri tells me I have to unlock my screen for her to read a text.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Kenny
> Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2020 8:38 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: learning new things on my iPhone so cool!
>
> I'm now learning how you can do practically anything on yur iPhone using 
> Siri. I hear a text, and I say "Hey Siri" respond too last text. Then I say 
> what I want. She repeats it, and I then say send. I'm able too do this while 
> my iPhone is on the dresser and I'm lying in bed. Have also composed an 
> entire email and sent it using Siri.
>
>
> It's amazing how well Siri works on the iPhone. Was able too do this even 
> while the screen was locked.
>
>
> On 8/2/2020 3:19 PM, Joshua Hendrickson wrote:
>> Hi to all.  In the last couple of days, I have learned some new 
>> iPhone things.  I am now successfully using the audible app which I 
>> have no idea why I didn't use it sooner.  It is so easy to find a 
>> book, and download it on my iPhone then delete the book, or remove 
>> from device as the audible app calls it.  I regret some of the things 
>> I did with audible in the past.  I also have just learned in the past 
>> few minutes how to receive a call from someone then add the number 
>> who called me to my contacts.  That is a pretty easy process as well.  
>> I need to learn how to use email next, but I know I will be able to 
>> do it.  Have a great day all.
>>

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Re: iPhone 8, worth it now?

[Portia Scott]

Lol!
I could never hurt family like that.
Plus, we’re still sheltering in place here.

> On Aug 3, 2020, at 9:11 PM, Holly  wrote:
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Re: iPhone 8, worth it now?

[Michelle Hurdt]

Lol!

I could never hurt my family like that.

Plus, we’re still sheltering in place where we live.

> On Aug 3, 2020, at 9:11 PM, Holly  wrote:
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Re: Creating Playlists in the Music App

[Richard Turner]

I am running the iOS 14 beta so I hope this is the same as before. I have not 
created playlists for a couple years.
You should be able to open the untitled playlist, double tap on more, then 
edit, and change the name.
I cannot remember the exact steps to adding songs to an existing playlist.




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On Aug 3, 2020, at 8:56 PM, Karen Poulakos  wrote:

I sent this message a couple of days ago, with no response.  I was sure 
someone in this group would have experience with this, so thought I'd try 
again, in case it wasn't seen.

I was playing around with creating a playlist in the music app, for the
first time. I got several songs moved to the playlist, and thought I
had titled it, only to find out that it seems to be titled "Untitled
playlist.  I can't seem to figure out how to change the title.

Also, once the playlist is created, how can I add additional songs to it?

Thanks.

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Re: iPhone 8, worth it now?

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Portia:

Maybe you could sell your Amazon gift card for cash.  Hahahaha.

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Re: iPhone 8, worth it now?

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Hey there,

Lol it is okay, I’ve done that! Yeah, every SE 2 I’ve looked at on there, has 
been locked to Cricket, and my mother has me and my friend Michelle on her 
T-Mobile plan.

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> Sorry.  I see that the Amazon SE is locked into Cricket.
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> Should have read further.
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Re: iPhone 8, worth it now?

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Portia:

Sorry.  I see that the Amazon SE is locked into Cricket.

Should have read further.

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Re: iPhone 8, worth it now?

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Portia:

Here is a link to the iPhone SE 2 on Amazon for $399.

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=iphone+se+2=nb_sb_noss_2

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Re: iPhone 8, worth it now?

[Portia Scott]

Dont I wish, lol.

Sadly though, my grandma’s only way of giving me anything is through email.

> On Aug 3, 2020, at 8:55 PM, Holly  wrote:
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> Could you ask your family to give you gift cards, such as Visa or MasterCard, 
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Creating Playlists in the Music App

[Karen Poulakos]

I sent this message a couple of days ago, with no response.  I was sure someone 
in this group would have experience with this, so thought I'd try again, in 
case it wasn't seen.
  
I was playing around with creating a playlist in the music app, for the
first time. I got several songs moved to the playlist, and thought I
had titled it, only to find out that it seems to be titled "Untitled
playlist.  I can't seem to figure out how to change the title.

Also, once the playlist is created, how can I add additional songs to it?

Thanks.  

Karen P


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Re: iPhone 8, worth it now?

[Holly]

Portia:

Could you ask your family to give you gift cards, such as Visa or 
MasterCard, that way, you could use them anywhere, and get the best price 
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Re: iPhone 8, worth it now?

[Portia Scott]

Hello Mark,

Thanks for the early happy birthday wishes!

I do see what you mean, having that home button is so nice, especially for 
being able to grab your phone with one hand, and being to unlock it, or putting 
your hand in your pocket and unlocking it without removing it!
Yep, my grandma and mother really do care. I have been hearing news floating 
around that Apple may or may not be announcing new iPhones this September? Wow! 
I don’t know if that applies to all their models of the iPhone 12, but 
supposedly it is said that it could be October, or even 2021, before they 
announce some or all of their models, due to them wanting to incorporate 5G. I 
don’t know who could wait that long.

As  far as size, I prefer the plus models, but don’t really care. I wish Amazon 
sold more unlocked, instead of just for Cricket, though, since gift cards are 
what I’m supposedly getting to afford it. What is sad about it, is if I did 
save up for the iPhone SE 2, I would be waisting money, though they are gift 
cards, and I just couldn’t fathom doing that to family, smiles. But I feel the 
pain from everyone. Making sure you are able to get future updates for as long 
as possible is definitely important, if you can afford the phone or device, for 
sure!

Portia.

> On Aug 3, 2020, at 7:10 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
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> Hello Portia, 
> 
> Happy Early Birthday, to you.  Your mom and grandma sound like very nice 
> people who love you very much.  
> 
> As it has been quite some time since I last posted to the group, I thought I 
> would chime in on this thread.
> 
> 1.
> I use both iPhone 8 Plus and iPHone 11 on a daily basis.  I am not a fan of 
> Face ID; however I acknowledge that many people love the feature.  I use the 
> Attention Aware option, which makes iPhone 11 more secure.
> 
> 2.
> I love having a Home button.  While I use iPhone 11 daily, my experience 
> seems slower because of a lack of a Home button.  Just my experience, only.
> 
> 3.
> I recently purchased an unlocked Samsung Galaxy S10 Plus Smartphone with an 
> in-display sonic Touch ID sensor Home button.  I absolutely love, love, love 
> it!!  I think it is one of the most amazing pieces of technology I 
> have ever encountered.
> 
> Simply stated, the sonic Touch ID acts just like a legacy home button without 
> having to reserve any of the actual device’s hardware real estate.  It just 
> works.
> 
> As I have absolutely no intention of starting any kind of debate between 
> those who prefer Samsung hardware to those who prefer Apple, I will say that 
> I truly hope that Apple will implement an in-screen / in-display Touch ID 
> sensor on the next hardware release of iPhone.  
> 
> However, as to your question, I would always choose an 8 Plus over the S E 
> because, unless I am mistaken, the 8 Plus has a larger display than the S E; 
> screen size is extremely important to me.
> 
> If you are not concerned with display size, then, assuming you cannot wait 
> until the next release of iPhone in order to see if it does or does not have 
> a Touch ID sensor, the S E sounds like a winner, to me.
> 
> Again, Happy Birthday and know that whichever device you get, it will be well 
> worth the money.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Portia Scott
> Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2020 11:18 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: iPhone 8, worth it now?
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> My mother is thinking of having my grandma give me Amazon gift cards towards 
> an iPhone 8 for my birthday next month, as well as helping to fund it herself.
> 
> Does anyone still use one? I cannot afford one of the phones with Face ID, 
> and could hardly get my old iPhone X to recognize my face half the time, 
> hence why I gave it back to T-Mobile about a year and a half ago,  or maybe 
> it was two years… lol.
> 
> But anyway, between the iPhone SE 2, and the iPhone 8, which one would you 
> guys recommend? As I said, I am looking for something with Touch ID. Not just 
> cause of not getting it to unlock hardly. That is part of it, but the other 
> reason, is I have Cerebral Palsy in my whole right side and so having 
> something with Touch ID would be easier for me.
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Re: iPhone 8, worth it now?

[Portia Scott]

Wish I could right now, but I’m being told to wait till I get my Amazon cards, 
but yeah. Silly  they only sell it for Cricket.

> On Aug 3, 2020, at 8:33 PM, Holly  wrote:
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> Portia:
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> I see the SE 2 for $399 on the Apple webbsite.  
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Re: iPhone 8, worth it now?

[Michelle Hurdt]

Hello Mark,

Thanks for the happy birthday! Yeah, I know what you mean! Having a home button 
is always awesome, in my opinion. The SE 2 is quite expensive, from what I see, 
if someone were to go elsewhere, other than Amazon. I know it was supposed to 
be only $399, but seems like every place I look, they want almost $500 to 
almost $1000 just to get it. For $262 to about $380 or so, you could get a 
refurbished iPhone 8 or Plus, which would be almost the same price as the SE 2 
was supposed to be. Unfortunately, however, I’m hearing news floating around 
that the new models of iPhone could be delayed until October, or further notice.

I’m not sure if that is for all models, or what. But whatever is going on, I 
hope things end up panning out for the better in the long run smiles.

Portia.

> On Aug 3, 2020, at 7:10 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Portia, 
> 
> Happy Early Birthday, to you.  Your mom and grandma sound like very nice 
> people who love you very much.  
> 
> As it has been quite some time since I last posted to the group, I thought I 
> would chime in on this thread.
> 
> 1.
> I use both iPhone 8 Plus and iPHone 11 on a daily basis.  I am not a fan of 
> Face ID; however I acknowledge that many people love the feature.  I use the 
> Attention Aware option, which makes iPhone 11 more secure.
> 
> 2.
> I love having a Home button.  While I use iPhone 11 daily, my experience 
> seems slower because of a lack of a Home button.  Just my experience, only.
> 
> 3.
> I recently purchased an unlocked Samsung Galaxy S10 Plus Smartphone with an 
> in-display sonic Touch ID sensor Home button.  I absolutely love, love, love 
> it!!  I think it is one of the most amazing pieces of technology I 
> have ever encountered.
> 
> Simply stated, the sonic Touch ID acts just like a legacy home button without 
> having to reserve any of the actual device’s hardware real estate.  It just 
> works.
> 
> As I have absolutely no intention of starting any kind of debate between 
> those who prefer Samsung hardware to those who prefer Apple, I will say that 
> I truly hope that Apple will implement an in-screen / in-display Touch ID 
> sensor on the next hardware release of iPhone.  
> 
> However, as to your question, I would always choose an 8 Plus over the S E 
> because, unless I am mistaken, the 8 Plus has a larger display than the S E; 
> screen size is extremely important to me.
> 
> If you are not concerned with display size, then, assuming you cannot wait 
> until the next release of iPhone in order to see if it does or does not have 
> a Touch ID sensor, the S E sounds like a winner, to me.
> 
> Again, Happy Birthday and know that whichever device you get, it will be well 
> worth the money.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Portia Scott
> Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2020 11:18 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: iPhone 8, worth it now?
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> My mother is thinking of having my grandma give me Amazon gift cards towards 
> an iPhone 8 for my birthday next month, as well as helping to fund it herself.
> 
> Does anyone still use one? I cannot afford one of the phones with Face ID, 
> and could hardly get my old iPhone X to recognize my face half the time, 
> hence why I gave it back to T-Mobile about a year and a half ago,  or maybe 
> it was two years… lol.
> 
> But anyway, between the iPhone SE 2, and the iPhone 8, which one would you 
> guys recommend? As I said, I am looking for something with Touch ID. Not just 
> cause of not getting it to unlock hardly. That is part of it, but the other 
> reason, is I have Cerebral Palsy in my whole right side and so having 
> something with Touch ID would be easier for me.
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Re: iPhone 8, worth it now?

[Holly]

Portia:

I see the SE 2 for $399 on the Apple webbsite.  


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Re: iPhone 8, worth it now?

[Portia Scott]

Man!! I wish I could find the SE 2 for cheaper than $599 to almost $1000. 
Everywhere I look, it is so darn expensive! And since I’d be going off of 
Amazon, they have it, but locked to Cricket. Which, sadly, I do not have, so 
that wouldn’t work.

> On Aug 3, 2020, at 2:25 PM, Robin  wrote:
> 
> Would Recommend & Suggest  you Look InTo the SE 2020 i.e., Apple's 2020 
> iPhoneSE as Opposed to Apple's iPhone8, as  I  heard that Apple Retired  the 
> 8  i.e.,  its iPhone8  after it Launched  & Relased  the SE 2020.
> The SE 2020  (From What I  Hear) comes  in the Form  & Frame  of the 8, but 
> with the Specs (most of them) from  the 2019 Models of the iPhone with Few 
> Exceptions  & the Specs that aren't there, are from the 8.
> 
> At 11:18 PM 8/2/2020, you wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> My mother is thinking of having my grandma give me Amazon gift cards towards 
>> an iPhone 8 for my birthday next month, as well as helping to fund it 
>> herself.
>> 
>> Does anyone still use one? I cannot afford one of the phones with Face ID, 
>> and could hardly get my old iPhone X to recognize my face half the time, 
>> hence why I gave it back to T-Mobile about a year and a half ago,  or maybe 
>> it was two years… lol.
>> But anyway, between the iPhone SE 2, and the iPhone 8, which one would you 
>> guys recommend? As I said, I am looking for something with Touch ID. Not 
>> just cause of not getting it to unlock hardly. That is part of it, but the 
>> other reason, is I have Cerebral Palsy in my whole right side and so having 
>> something with Touch ID would be easier for me.
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RE: iPhone 8, worth it now?

[M. Taylor]

Hello Portia, 

Happy Early Birthday, to you.  Your mom and grandma sound like very nice people 
who love you very much.  

As it has been quite some time since I last posted to the group, I thought I 
would chime in on this thread.

1.
I use both iPhone 8 Plus and iPHone 11 on a daily basis.  I am not a fan of 
Face ID; however I acknowledge that many people love the feature.  I use the 
Attention Aware option, which makes iPhone 11 more secure.

2.
I love having a Home button.  While I use iPhone 11 daily, my experience seems 
slower because of a lack of a Home button.  Just my experience, only.

3.
I recently purchased an unlocked Samsung Galaxy S10 Plus Smartphone with an 
in-display sonic Touch ID sensor Home button.  I absolutely love, love, love 
it!!  I think it is one of the most amazing pieces of technology I have 
ever encountered.

Simply stated, the sonic Touch ID acts just like a legacy home button without 
having to reserve any of the actual device’s hardware real estate.  It just 
works.

As I have absolutely no intention of starting any kind of debate between those 
who prefer Samsung hardware to those who prefer Apple, I will say that I truly 
hope that Apple will implement an in-screen / in-display Touch ID sensor on the 
next hardware release of iPhone.  

However, as to your question, I would always choose an 8 Plus over the S E 
because, unless I am mistaken, the 8 Plus has a larger display than the S E; 
screen size is extremely important to me.

If you are not concerned with display size, then, assuming you cannot wait 
until the next release of iPhone in order to see if it does or does not have a 
Touch ID sensor, the S E sounds like a winner, to me.

Again, Happy Birthday and know that whichever device you get, it will be well 
worth the money.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Portia Scott
Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2020 11:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPhone 8, worth it now?

Hi all,

My mother is thinking of having my grandma give me Amazon gift cards towards an 
iPhone 8 for my birthday next month, as well as helping to fund it herself.

Does anyone still use one? I cannot afford one of the phones with Face ID, and 
could hardly get my old iPhone X to recognize my face half the time, hence why 
I gave it back to T-Mobile about a year and a half ago,  or maybe it was two 
years… lol.

But anyway, between the iPhone SE 2, and the iPhone 8, which one would you guys 
recommend? As I said, I am looking for something with Touch ID. Not just cause 
of not getting it to unlock hardly. That is part of it, but the other reason, 
is I have Cerebral Palsy in my whole right side and so having something with 
Touch ID would be easier for me.

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Re: Using the stereo microphones on the iPhone

[juan mojena]

The only way  toget me to change from Apple to android it’s going to be the 
multipoint touch or 32 bit recording. Oh!!!  it’s  seems that 32 bit float 
recording is already on android. Don’t know if it’s any good but someone will 
tell us eventually.

Juan


Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 3, 2020, at 7:45 PM, chalt...@gmail.com wrote:

Multifinger gestures are available in Android 11, but I already considered 
Android to be a very good alternative. In fact, although I think multifinger 
gestures are a good thing, I don't think they're going to change people's 
opinion about Android. It's not like it turns the Android gesture set into a 
clone of VoiceOver, and it's not like you couldn't already get around the angle 
gestures in Android if you didn't like them.

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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
> Of Juan Mojena
> Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 5:16 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Using the stereo microphones on the iPhone
> 
> And now with android supposedly introducing multi finger touch with android 11
> it'll give blind people a very good alternative.
> 
> Juan
> 
>>> On Aug 3, 2020, at 5:13 PM, Davy Cuppens  wrote:
>> 
>> Apple is lagging far far behind of Android here, the most cheap huawei phones
> do have very good stereo recorders for audio into their phones.
>> 
>> Please do all write Apple about this, don't think others will do it do it 
>> yourself
> and DO IT NOW!
>> Davy
>> 
>> -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Joshua Hendrickson
>> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2020 10:33 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Using the stereo microphones on the iPhone
>> 
>> If I could use stereo microphones on the iPhone, I wonder how that
>> would improve my recordings with Dolby on.  I'm very surprised at how
>> good they came out with whatever mike is on my iPhone 8.
>> 
>> On 8/3/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>> The new SE 2020 does, and I think at least the XR if not all the X's
>>> and the 11's.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must
>>> pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of
>>> ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have
>>> regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted
>>> extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On
> Behalf
>>> Of Anna Dresner
>>> Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 1:12 PM
>>> To: VIPhone Mailing List 
>>> Subject: Re: Using the stereo microphones on the iPhone
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I believe this is a feature in iOS 14. I'm not sure which iPhones
>>> have stereo microphones, so I don't know whether I can test it though.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Anna
>>> 
>>> 
 On Aug 3, 2020, at 3:09 PM, Juan Mojena  wrote:
 
 That's really a shame. I will write Apple accessibility or is it
 Apple directly to allow the use of the stereo microphones with audio
 applications.  I wonder how good those microphones are? Because
 there are certainly a lot of microphones on the market.
 
 Juan
 
 
 
> On Aug 3, 2020, at 3:58 PM, Richard Turner
> 
> wrote:
> 
> Apple does not allow it for anything but video.
> Please write Apple Accessibility and request that they allow it for
> audio recording.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must
> pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of
> ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have
> regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted
> extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On
> Behalf
> Of Juan Mojena
> Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 12:47 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Using the stereo microphones on the iPhone
> 
> Has anyone been able to use  the stereo microphones on any app
> other than the video recorder on the iPhone 10 or 11?
> 
> Thanks
> Juan
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Re: Facial recognition on The iPhone 11

[juan mojena]

Nah, not to worry. I make mistakes all the time. amongst all the ones that I 
make all throughout the day, on a few occasions I’ve  turn around to leave  a  
room and  smacked   Right  into the Lwall.

Juan


Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 3, 2020, at 7:20 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:

Sorry, Juan, somehow, didn't see that message about the eyes, or didn't read 
closely enough. Thanks for the information. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
chalt...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 5:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Facial recognition on The iPhone 11

As Juan says below it's where the phone also detects that you're looking at the 
phone in addition to just recognizing your face. This way someone couldn't 
unlock your phone when your sleeping by waiving it in front of your face. This 
is turned off by default when you enable VoiceOver.

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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Carolyn
> Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 4:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Facial recognition on The iPhone 11
> 
> What is attention mode?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 5:02 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Facial recognition on The iPhone 11
> 
> In most cases we cant' as we need to look at the camera to have 
> attention mode work correctly,
> 
> That's why it's turned off now when vo is turned on.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> juan mojena
> Sent: Tuesday, 4 August 2020 5:12 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Facial recognition on The iPhone 11
> 
> Hi Carolyn, as far as I understand it. In addition to the phone being 
> able to recognize your face it also  can sense  when your eyes are looking at 
> the phone.
> What I am wondering is how many of us blind folk can use attention 
> mode Juan
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Aug 3, 2020, at 10:34 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> Facial will work in the dark, but whenever mine doesn't come right 
> up, I just punch my six-figure access code - have gotten pretty fast at doing 
> that one.
> 
> What is Attention Mode?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of juan mojena
> Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2020 10:42 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Facial recognition on The iPhone 11
> 
> Since I’ve now ordered an iPhone 11 promax, I’m wondering how are  
> peoples experiences with Face  recognition  on the iPhone X and  or 
> 11. Is face recognition for unlocking the phone as fast as using the finger 
> pring  sensor?
> Can the phone be unlocked in light or dark? I’m thinking  if   one  were  too 
> wake
> up in the middle of the night and  Didn’t  want to turn on the light. 
> What about attention  Mode  do most people turn that on or leave it off.
> 
> thank you in advance
> Juan
> 
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RE: iPhone 8, worth it now?

[chaltain]

Glasses, beards and hair isn't a problem. I doubt snow or rain would be a 
problem either. Apple made it easier for face ID to work with masks, but I'd 
still think it would have a problem with that depending on how much the mask or 
scarf covered up.

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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
> Of bentleyj1...@gmail.com
> Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 7:51 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iPhone 8, worth it now?
> 
> I've never used face ID even one time but, I still wonder about mask, snow or
> rain, and glasses etc.
> 
> I almost never fail to get the touch ID the first time as long as my fingers 
> are dry.
> Oops, its difficult if your fingers are very cold and gloves are definately 
> out.
> 
> James B
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
> Of lenron brown
> Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 5:02 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPhone 8, worth it now?
> 
> SE 2020 gets my vote as well. I tried face id and didn't like it much either. 
> Only
> reason why I would get a max if I really wanted a bigger device. I plan on 
> holding
> on to my 7plus for another year though. If there end up being something with
> face id and touch id good for apple.
> 
> On 8/3/20, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> > The SE 2020,
> >
> >  There is no real reason to go backwards when you can get the latest model.
> >
> > The 8 is still a great phone but is now coming up 3 years old, The SE
> > 2020 has the same shape and size as the 8 but has the latest processor
> > and related camera technology although only one camera I for one would
> > go the se especially when the price of them is so good.
> >
> > Good luck.
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> >
> > Simon F
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
> Of
> > Mich Verrier
> > Sent: Monday, 3 August 2020 6:22 PM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: RE: iPhone 8, worth it now?
> >
> > Hi last year when I upgraded my phone I whent for a I phone 8. I whent
> > from a I phone 6s to a 8 and so I would recommend that unless you want
> > the I phone se since it is newer and does have touch id just like the
> > I phone 8 does but that is a older moddle. Hth. From Mich.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
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> > Portia Scott
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> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: iPhone 8, worth it now?
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > My mother is thinking of having my grandma give me Amazon gift cards
> > towards an iPhone 8 for my birthday next month, as well as helping to
> > fund it herself.
> >
> > Does anyone still use one? I cannot afford one of the phones with Face
> > ID, and could hardly get my old iPhone X to recognize my face half the
> > time, hence why I gave it back to T-Mobile about a year and a half
> > ago,  or maybe it was two years… lol.
> >
> > But anyway, between the iPhone SE 2, and the iPhone 8, which one would
> > you guys recommend? As I said, I am looking for something with Touch
> > ID. Not just cause of not getting it to unlock hardly. That is part of
> > it, but the other reason, is I have Cerebral Palsy in my whole right
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RE: iPhone 8, worth it now?

[bentleyj1952]

I've never used face ID even one time but, I still wonder about mask, snow or 
rain, and glasses etc.

I almost never fail to get the touch ID the first time as long as my fingers 
are dry.  Oops, its difficult if your fingers are very cold and gloves are 
definately out.

James B  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of lenron 
brown
Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 5:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 8, worth it now?

SE 2020 gets my vote as well. I tried face id and didn't like it much
either. Only reason why I would get a max if I really wanted a bigger
device. I plan on holding on to my 7plus for another year though. If
there end up being something with face id and touch id good for apple.

On 8/3/20, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> The SE 2020,
>
>  There is no real reason to go backwards when you can get the latest model.
>
> The 8 is still a great phone but is now coming up 3 years old,
> The SE 2020 has the same shape and size as the 8 but has the latest
> processor and related camera technology although only one camera
> I for one would go the se especially when the price of them is so good.
>
> Good luck.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> Simon F
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mich
> Verrier
> Sent: Monday, 3 August 2020 6:22 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iPhone 8, worth it now?
>
> Hi last year when I upgraded my phone I whent for a I phone 8. I whent from
> a I phone 6s to a 8 and so I would recommend that unless you want the I
> phone se since it is newer and does have touch id just like the I phone 8
> does but that is a older moddle. Hth. From Mich.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Portia Scott
> Sent: August 3, 2020 2:18 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: iPhone 8, worth it now?
>
> Hi all,
>
> My mother is thinking of having my grandma give me Amazon gift cards towards
> an iPhone 8 for my birthday next month, as well as helping to fund it
> herself.
>
> Does anyone still use one? I cannot afford one of the phones with Face ID,
> and could hardly get my old iPhone X to recognize my face half the time,
> hence why I gave it back to T-Mobile about a year and a half ago,  or maybe
> it was two years… lol.
>
> But anyway, between the iPhone SE 2, and the iPhone 8, which one would you
> guys recommend? As I said, I am looking for something with Touch ID. Not
> just cause of not getting it to unlock hardly. That is part of it, but the
> other reason, is I have Cerebral Palsy in my whole right side and so having
> something with Touch ID would be easier for me.
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RE: Using the stereo microphones on the iPhone

[chaltain]

Multifinger gestures are available in Android 11, but I already considered 
Android to be a very good alternative. In fact, although I think multifinger 
gestures are a good thing, I don't think they're going to change people's 
opinion about Android. It's not like it turns the Android gesture set into a 
clone of VoiceOver, and it's not like you couldn't already get around the angle 
gestures in Android if you didn't like them.

--
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Chaltain at Gmail

> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
> Of Juan Mojena
> Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 5:16 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Using the stereo microphones on the iPhone
> 
> And now with android supposedly introducing multi finger touch with android 11
> it'll give blind people a very good alternative.
> 
> Juan
> 
> > On Aug 3, 2020, at 5:13 PM, Davy Cuppens  wrote:
> >
> > Apple is lagging far far behind of Android here, the most cheap huawei 
> > phones
> do have very good stereo recorders for audio into their phones.
> >
> > Please do all write Apple about this, don't think others will do it do it 
> > yourself
> and DO IT NOW!
> > Davy
> >
> > -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Joshua Hendrickson
> > Sent: Monday, August 03, 2020 10:33 PM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: Using the stereo microphones on the iPhone
> >
> > If I could use stereo microphones on the iPhone, I wonder how that
> > would improve my recordings with Dolby on.  I'm very surprised at how
> > good they came out with whatever mike is on my iPhone 8.
> >
> > On 8/3/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
> >> The new SE 2020 does, and I think at least the XR if not all the X's
> >> and the 11's.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Richard
> >> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must
> >> pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of
> >> ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have
> >> regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted
> >> extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On
> Behalf
> >> Of Anna Dresner
> >> Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 1:12 PM
> >> To: VIPhone Mailing List 
> >> Subject: Re: Using the stereo microphones on the iPhone
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I believe this is a feature in iOS 14. I'm not sure which iPhones
> >> have stereo microphones, so I don't know whether I can test it though.
> >>
> >> Best,
> >> Anna
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Aug 3, 2020, at 3:09 PM, Juan Mojena  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> That's really a shame. I will write Apple accessibility or is it
> >>> Apple directly to allow the use of the stereo microphones with audio
> >>> applications.  I wonder how good those microphones are? Because
> >>> there are certainly a lot of microphones on the market.
> >>>
> >>> Juan
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
>  On Aug 3, 2020, at 3:58 PM, Richard Turner
>  
>  wrote:
> 
>  Apple does not allow it for anything but video.
>  Please write Apple Accessibility and request that they allow it for
>  audio recording.
> 
> 
> 
>  Richard
>  "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must
>  pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of
>  ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have
>  regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted
>  extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
> 
>  -Original Message-
>  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On
> Behalf
>  Of Juan Mojena
>  Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 12:47 PM
>  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>  Subject: Using the stereo microphones on the iPhone
> 
>  Has anyone been able to use  the stereo microphones on any app
>  other than the video recorder on the iPhone 10 or 11?
> 
>  Thanks
>  Juan
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RE: iPhone 8, worth it now?

[Carolyn]

I hope touch comes back, but I would wonder where we'd touch on the 11? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robin
Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 5:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone 8, worth it now?

Speakin' as  a  Person, Who
uses  a  SamsungGalaxy as Their PrimaryDevice, Samsung's FaceRecognition 
doesn't really Compare to either Google's FaceRecognition or Apple's FaceID in 
Terms of Security, but  Samsung  is MostLikely workin' on that, just as Apple 
is Refining its TouchID i.e., IN Display TouchID


At 03:11 AM 8/3/2020, you wrote:
>The touch and face id have to come,
>
>Samsung have been doing it for a couple of years now,
>
>  I take it apple are just refining the technology as there were 
> troubles with samsungs builds.
>
>-Original Message-
>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
> On Behalf Of lenron brown
>Sent: Monday, 3 August 2020 10:02 PM
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Re: iPhone 8, worth it now?
>
>SE 2020 gets my vote as well. I tried face id and didn't like it much 
>either. Only reason why I would get a max if I really wanted a bigger 
>device. I plan on holding on to my 7plus for another year though. If 
>there end up being something with face id and touch id good for apple.
>
>On 8/3/20, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> > The SE 2020,
> >
> >  There is no real reason to go backwards when you can get the latest model.
> >
> > The 8 is still a great phone but is now coming up 3 years old, The 
> > SE
> > 2020 has the same shape and size as the 8 but has the latest 
> > processor and related camera technology although only one camera I 
> > for one would go the se especially when the price of them is so good.
> >
> > Good luck.
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> >
> > Simon F
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
> > Of Mich Verrier
> > Sent: Monday, 3 August 2020 6:22 PM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: RE: iPhone 8, worth it now?
> >
> > Hi last year when I upgraded my phone I whent for a I phone 8. I 
> > whent from a I phone 6s to a 8 and so I would recommend that unless 
> > you want the I phone se since it is newer and does have touch id 
> > just like the I phone 8 does but that is a older moddle. Hth. From Mich.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
> > Of Portia Scott
> > Sent: August 3, 2020 2:18 AM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: iPhone 8, worth it now?
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > My mother is thinking of having my grandma give me Amazon gift cards 
> > towards an iPhone 8 for my birthday next month, as well as helping 
> > to fund it herself.
> >
> > Does anyone still use one? I cannot afford one of the phones with 
> > Face ID, and could hardly get my old iPhone X to recognize my face 
> > half the time, hence why I gave it back to T-Mobile about a year and 
> > a half ago,  or maybe it was two years… lol.
> >
> > But anyway, between the iPhone SE 2, and the iPhone 8, which one 
> > would you guys recommend? As I said, I am looking for something with 
> > Touch ID. Not just cause of not getting it to unlock hardly. That is 
> > part of it, but the other reason, is I have Cerebral Palsy in my 
> > whole right side and so having something with Touch ID would be easier for 
> > me.
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RE: Facial recognition on The iPhone 11

[Carolyn]

Sorry, Juan, somehow, didn't see that message about the eyes, or didn't read 
closely enough. Thanks for the information. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
chalt...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 5:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Facial recognition on The iPhone 11

As Juan says below it's where the phone also detects that you're looking at the 
phone in addition to just recognizing your face. This way someone couldn't 
unlock your phone when your sleeping by waiving it in front of your face. This 
is turned off by default when you enable VoiceOver.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Gmail

> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Carolyn
> Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 4:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Facial recognition on The iPhone 11
> 
> What is attention mode?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 5:02 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Facial recognition on The iPhone 11
> 
> In most cases we cant' as we need to look at the camera to have 
> attention mode work correctly,
> 
>  That's why it's turned off now when vo is turned on.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> juan mojena
> Sent: Tuesday, 4 August 2020 5:12 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Facial recognition on The iPhone 11
> 
> Hi Carolyn, as far as I understand it. In addition to the phone being 
> able to recognize your face it also  can sense  when your eyes are looking at 
> the phone.
> What I am wondering is how many of us blind folk can use attention 
> mode Juan
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Aug 3, 2020, at 10:34 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> Facial will work in the dark, but whenever mine doesn't come right 
> up, I just punch my six-figure access code - have gotten pretty fast at doing 
> that one.
> 
> What is Attention Mode?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of juan mojena
> Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2020 10:42 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Facial recognition on The iPhone 11
> 
> Since I’ve now ordered an iPhone 11 promax, I’m wondering how are  
> peoples experiences with Face  recognition  on the iPhone X and  or 
> 11. Is face recognition for unlocking the phone as fast as using the finger 
> pring  sensor?
> Can the phone be unlocked in light or dark? I’m thinking  if   one  were  too 
> wake
> up in the middle of the night and  Didn’t  want to turn on the light. 
> What about attention  Mode  do most people turn that on or leave it off.
> 
> thank you in advance
> Juan
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Using the stereo microphones on the iPhone

[Juan Mojena]

And now with android supposedly introducing multi finger touch with android 11 
it'll give blind people a very good alternative.

Juan

> On Aug 3, 2020, at 5:13 PM, Davy Cuppens  wrote:
> 
> Apple is lagging far far behind of Android here, the most cheap huawei phones 
> do have very good stereo recorders for audio into their phones.
> 
> Please do all write Apple about this, don't think others will do it do it 
> yourself and DO IT NOW!
> Davy
> 
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2020 10:33 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Using the stereo microphones on the iPhone
> 
> If I could use stereo microphones on the iPhone, I wonder how that
> would improve my recordings with Dolby on.  I'm very surprised at how
> good they came out with whatever mike is on my iPhone 8.
> 
> On 8/3/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> The new SE 2020 does, and I think at least the XR if not all the X's and the
>> 11's.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass
>> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient
>> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not
>> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward
>> Herbert
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna
>> Dresner
>> Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 1:12 PM
>> To: VIPhone Mailing List 
>> Subject: Re: Using the stereo microphones on the iPhone
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I believe this is a feature in iOS 14. I'm not sure which iPhones have
>> stereo microphones, so I don't know whether I can test it though.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 3, 2020, at 3:09 PM, Juan Mojena  wrote:
>>> 
>>> That's really a shame. I will write Apple accessibility or is it Apple
>>> directly to allow the use of the stereo microphones with audio
>>> applications.  I wonder how good those microphones are? Because there are
>>> certainly a lot of microphones on the market.
>>> 
>>> Juan
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Aug 3, 2020, at 3:58 PM, Richard Turner 
 wrote:
 
 Apple does not allow it for anything but video.
 Please write Apple Accessibility and request that they allow it for audio
 recording.
 
 
 
 Richard
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 hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not
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 Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 12:47 PM
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 Has anyone been able to use  the stereo microphones on any app other than
 the video recorder on the iPhone 10 or 11?
 
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RE: iPhone 8, worth it now?

[Robin]

Speakin' as  a  Person, Who 
uses  a  SamsungGalaxy as Their PrimaryDevice, 
Samsung's FaceRecognition doesn't really Compare 
to either Google's FaceRecognition or Apple's 
FaceID in Terms of Security, but  Samsung  is 
MostLikely workin' on that, just as Apple is 
Refining its TouchID i.e., IN Display TouchID



At 03:11 AM 8/3/2020, you wrote:

The touch and face id have to come,

Samsung have been doing it for a couple of years now,

 I take it apple are just refining the 
technology as there were troubles with samsungs builds.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of lenron brown

Sent: Monday, 3 August 2020 10:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 8, worth it now?

SE 2020 gets my vote as well. I tried face id 
and didn't like it much either. Only reason why 
I would get a max if I really wanted a bigger 
device. I plan on holding on to my 7plus for 
another year though. If there end up being 
something with face id and touch id good for apple.


On 8/3/20, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> The SE 2020,
>
>  There is no real reason to go backwards when you can get the latest model.
>
> The 8 is still a great phone but is now coming up 3 years old, The SE
> 2020 has the same shape and size as the 8 but has the latest processor
> and related camera technology although only one camera I for one would
> go the se especially when the price of them is so good.
>
> Good luck.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> Simon F
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Mich Verrier
> Sent: Monday, 3 August 2020 6:22 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iPhone 8, worth it now?
>
> Hi last year when I upgraded my phone I whent for a I phone 8. I whent
> from a I phone 6s to a 8 and so I would recommend that unless you want
> the I phone se since it is newer and does have touch id just like the
> I phone 8 does but that is a older moddle. Hth. From Mich.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Portia Scott
> Sent: August 3, 2020 2:18 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: iPhone 8, worth it now?
>
> Hi all,
>
> My mother is thinking of having my grandma give me Amazon gift cards
> towards an iPhone 8 for my birthday next month, as well as helping to
> fund it herself.
>
> Does anyone still use one? I cannot afford one of the phones with Face
> ID, and could hardly get my old iPhone X to recognize my face half the
> time, hence why I gave it back to T-Mobile about a year and a half
> ago,  or maybe it was two years… lol.
>
> But anyway, between the iPhone SE 2, and the iPhone 8, which one would
> you guys recommend? As I said, I am looking for something with Touch
> ID. Not just cause of not getting it to unlock hardly. That is part of
> it, but the other reason, is I have Cerebral Palsy in my whole right
> side and so having something with Touch ID would be easier for me.
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Re: Can you create folders within the native mail app

[Kay Malmquist]

Ok, so there is no way to create a folder outside of a box and in the list 
of other boxes?

Kay Malmquist
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When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be.
- Lao Tzu

- Original Message - 
From: "Richard Turner" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2020 11:28 AM
Subject: RE: Can you create folders within the native mail app


I believe you have to pick which account or which mailbox you want this 
folder to be inside of.
Then you will have an edit field to name it.



Richard
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himself," and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
granting grace to others, I've never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
Herbert

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 8:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Can you create folders within the native mail app

I tried this but when I tap on new mail box, there is no edit field.  Just 
the list of mail boxes.  Do you need to be in the inbox, or just in the list 
of mail boxes?
Kay Malmquist
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- Original Message -
From: "Richard Turner" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2020 8:09 AM
Subject: RE: Can you create folders within the native mail app


Yes.
Double tap on Edit.
In the lower right is a New Mailbox button.
Give it a name, then pick a location, and hit save.
Then you can move emails into that separate mailbox.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass
himself," and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient
hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not
granting grace to others, I've never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward
Herbert

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Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 4:58 AM
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Subject: Can you create folders within the native mail app

Hi,
Can you create folders within the native mail app.
Thanks.
Jen

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Re: iPhone 8, worth it now?

[Robin]

Would Recommend & Suggest  you Look InTo the SE 
2020 i.e., Apple's 2020 iPhoneSE as Opposed to 
Apple's iPhone8, as  I  heard that Apple 
Retired  the 8  i.e.,  its iPhone8  after it Launched  & Relased  the SE 2020.
The SE 2020  (From What I  Hear) comes  in the 
Form  & Frame  of the 8, but with the Specs (most 
of them) from  the 2019 Models of the iPhone with 
Few Exceptions  & the Specs that aren't there, are from the 8.


At 11:18 PM 8/2/2020, you wrote:

Hi all,

My mother is thinking of having my grandma give 
me Amazon gift cards towards an iPhone 8 for my 
birthday next month, as well as helping to fund it herself.


Does anyone still use one? I cannot afford one 
of the phones with Face ID, and could hardly get 
my old iPhone X to recognize my face half the 
time, hence why I gave it back to T-Mobile about 
a year and a half ago,  or maybe it was two years… lol.
But anyway, between the iPhone SE 2, and the 
iPhone 8, which one would you guys recommend? As 
I said, I am looking for something with Touch 
ID. Not just cause of not getting it to unlock 
hardly. That is part of it, but the other 
reason, is I have Cerebral Palsy in my whole 
right side and so having something with Touch ID would be easier for me.


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Re: Using the stereo microphones on the iPhone

[Davy Cuppens]

Apple is lagging far far behind of Android here, the most cheap huawei 
phones do have very good stereo recorders for audio into their phones.


Please do all write Apple about this, don't think others will do it do it 
yourself and DO IT NOW!

Davy

-Oorspronkelijk bericht- 
From: Joshua Hendrickson

Sent: Monday, August 03, 2020 10:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using the stereo microphones on the iPhone

If I could use stereo microphones on the iPhone, I wonder how that
would improve my recordings with Dolby on.  I'm very surprised at how
good they came out with whatever mike is on my iPhone 8.

On 8/3/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
The new SE 2020 does, and I think at least the XR if not all the X's and 
the

11's.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient
hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not
granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - 
Edward

Herbert

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Anna

Dresner
Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 1:12 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Re: Using the stereo microphones on the iPhone

Hi,

I believe this is a feature in iOS 14. I'm not sure which iPhones have
stereo microphones, so I don't know whether I can test it though.

Best,
Anna



On Aug 3, 2020, at 3:09 PM, Juan Mojena  wrote:

That's really a shame. I will write Apple accessibility or is it Apple
directly to allow the use of the stereo microphones with audio
applications.  I wonder how good those microphones are? Because there are
certainly a lot of microphones on the market.

Juan




On Aug 3, 2020, at 3:58 PM, Richard Turner 
wrote:

Apple does not allow it for anything but video.
Please write Apple Accessibility and request that they allow it for 
audio

recording.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient
hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not
granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" -
Edward Herbert

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Juan Mojena
Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 12:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Using the stereo microphones on the iPhone

Has anyone been able to use  the stereo microphones on any app other 
than

the video recorder on the iPhone 10 or 11?

Thanks
Juan

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RE: Facial recognition on The iPhone 11

[chaltain]

As Juan says below it's where the phone also detects that you're looking at the 
phone in addition to just recognizing your face. This way someone couldn't 
unlock your phone when your sleeping by waiving it in front of your face. This 
is turned off by default when you enable VoiceOver.

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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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> 
> What is attention mode?
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 5:02 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Facial recognition on The iPhone 11
> 
> In most cases we cant' as we need to look at the camera to have attention
> mode work correctly,
> 
>  That's why it's turned off now when vo is turned on.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
> Of juan mojena
> Sent: Tuesday, 4 August 2020 5:12 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Facial recognition on The iPhone 11
> 
> Hi Carolyn, as far as I understand it. In addition to the phone being able to
> recognize your face it also  can sense  when your eyes are looking at the 
> phone.
> What I am wondering is how many of us blind folk can use attention mode Juan
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Aug 3, 2020, at 10:34 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> Facial will work in the dark, but whenever mine doesn't come right up, I just
> punch my six-figure access code - have gotten pretty fast at doing that one.
> 
> What is Attention Mode?
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of juan mojena
> Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2020 10:42 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Facial recognition on The iPhone 11
> 
> Since I’ve now ordered an iPhone 11 promax, I’m wondering how are  peoples
> experiences with Face  recognition  on the iPhone X and  or 11. Is face
> recognition for unlocking the phone as fast as using the finger pring  sensor?
> Can the phone be unlocked in light or dark? I’m thinking  if   one  were  too 
> wake
> up in the middle of the night and  Didn’t  want to turn on the light. What 
> about
> attention  Mode  do most people turn that on or leave it off.
> 
> thank you in advance
> Juan
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RE: Facial recognition on The iPhone 11

[Carolyn]

What is attention mode? 

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Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 5:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Facial recognition on The iPhone 11

In most cases we cant' as we need to look at the camera to have attention mode 
work correctly,

 That's why it's turned off now when vo is turned on.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of juan 
mojena
Sent: Tuesday, 4 August 2020 5:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Facial recognition on The iPhone 11

Hi Carolyn, as far as I understand it. In addition to the phone being able to 
recognize your face it also  can sense  when your eyes are looking at the 
phone. What I am wondering is how many of us blind folk can use attention mode 
Juan


Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 3, 2020, at 10:34 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:

Facial will work in the dark, but whenever mine doesn't come right up, I just 
punch my six-figure access code - have gotten pretty fast at doing that one. 

What is Attention Mode? 

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juan mojena
Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2020 10:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Facial recognition on The iPhone 11

Since I’ve now ordered an iPhone 11 promax, I’m wondering how are  peoples  
experiences with Face  recognition  on the iPhone X and  or 11. Is face 
recognition for unlocking the phone as fast as using the finger pring  sensor?  
 Can the phone be unlocked in light or dark? I’m thinking  if   one  were  too 
wake up in the middle of the night and  Didn’t  want to turn on the light. What 
about attention  Mode  do most people turn that on or leave it off.

thank you in advance
Juan

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RE: Facial recognition on The iPhone 11

[chaltain]

I read on a blog article from Jonathan Mosen that he could get attention mode 
working, but I gave it a shot for a bit and found it just too frustrating. If I 
had the patience of Jonathan then I'm confident I could have gotten it to work 
reliably.

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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
> Of juan mojena
> Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 12:12 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Facial recognition on The iPhone 11
> 
> Hi Carolyn, as far as I understand it. In addition to the phone being able to
> recognize your face it also  can sense  when your eyes are looking at the 
> phone.
> What I am wondering is how many of us blind folk can use attention mode Juan
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Aug 3, 2020, at 10:34 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> Facial will work in the dark, but whenever mine doesn't come right up, I just
> punch my six-figure access code - have gotten pretty fast at doing that one.
> 
> What is Attention Mode?
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of juan mojena
> Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2020 10:42 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Facial recognition on The iPhone 11
> 
> Since I’ve now ordered an iPhone 11 promax, I’m wondering how are  peoples
> experiences with Face  recognition  on the iPhone X and  or 11. Is face
> recognition for unlocking the phone as fast as using the finger pring  sensor?
> Can the phone be unlocked in light or dark? I’m thinking  if   one  were  too 
> wake
> up in the middle of the night and  Didn’t  want to turn on the light. What 
> about
> attention  Mode  do most people turn that on or leave it off.
> 
> thank you in advance
> Juan
> 
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RE: iPhone 8, worth it now?

[Carolyn]

I know, if I had to make that choice, there really wouldn't be a choice - an 
SE, it would be for me! 

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Definitely the SE2. The 8 is discontinued in Apple, at least. The SE2 is the 
body of an 8, with inwards of an 11. Good luck!

 


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De: Portia Scott  
Enviado: lunes, 3 de agosto de 2020 01:18 a. m.
Para: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Asunto: iPhone 8, worth it now?

 

Hi all,

 

My mother is thinking of having my grandma give me Amazon gift cards towards an 
iPhone 8 for my birthday next month, as well as helping to fund it herself.

 

Does anyone still use one? I cannot afford one of the phones with Face ID, and 
could hardly get my old iPhone X to recognize my face half the time, hence why 
I gave it back to T-Mobile about a year and a half ago,  or maybe it was two 
years… lol.

 

But anyway, between the iPhone SE 2, and the iPhone 8, which one would you guys 
recommend? As I said, I am looking for something with Touch ID. Not just cause 
of not getting it to unlock hardly. That is part of it, but the other reason, 
is I have Cerebral Palsy in my whole right side and so having something with 
Touch ID would be easier for me.

 

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RE: Facial recognition on The iPhone 11

[Simon A Fogarty]

In most cases we cant' as we need to look at the camera to have attention mode 
work correctly,

 That's why it's turned off now when vo is turned on.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of juan 
mojena
Sent: Tuesday, 4 August 2020 5:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Facial recognition on The iPhone 11

Hi Carolyn, as far as I understand it. In addition to the phone being able to 
recognize your face it also  can sense  when your eyes are looking at the 
phone. What I am wondering is how many of us blind folk can use attention mode 
Juan


Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 3, 2020, at 10:34 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:

Facial will work in the dark, but whenever mine doesn't come right up, I just 
punch my six-figure access code - have gotten pretty fast at doing that one. 

What is Attention Mode? 

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Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2020 10:42 PM
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Subject: Facial recognition on The iPhone 11

Since I’ve now ordered an iPhone 11 promax, I’m wondering how are  peoples  
experiences with Face  recognition  on the iPhone X and  or 11. Is face 
recognition for unlocking the phone as fast as using the finger pring  sensor?  
 Can the phone be unlocked in light or dark? I’m thinking  if   one  were  too 
wake up in the middle of the night and  Didn’t  want to turn on the light. What 
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thank you in advance
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Re: Orbit Writer connections

[Joshua Hendrickson]

This is highly unlikely, but your unit could need repaired.  This is
just a possibility.  I hope you get your issues figured out.  I could
see how frustrating that would be to get a new device and have issues
with it.

On 8/3/20, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> There is a very brief getting started tutorial that you can purchase
> for $30, but it actually isn't really worth it.  It just shows you how
> to turn on the device, a few commands for checking battery, and
> pairing the device.  All other commands that you need to learn, you'd
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> On 8/3/20, Candy Lowe  wrote:
>> Traci,
>> I wish I could help, but, I will not receive my orbit writer until
>> Friday.
>> At that time, if you haven't figured it out, I'll be glad to help.
>> Does the orbit writer come with any type of braille or audio
>> instructions?
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
 On Aug 3, 2020, at 2:43 PM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
>>> Hi all, has anyone else received their Orbit Writer? Got mine over the
>>> weekend and so far I am unsuccessful at having it reconnect to more than
>>> one device.
>>>
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>>> reread the user’s guide, but cannot figure out where I may be going
>>> wrong.
>>> I contacted Orbit Research this morning and he recommended I have the
>>> device forget all paired connections and try again.
>>>
>>> Over the weekend and today, I’ve done this a couple of times with no
>>> further success.
>>>
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>>> may
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>>>
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There is a very brief getting started tutorial that you can purchase
for $30, but it actually isn't really worth it.  It just shows you how
to turn on the device, a few commands for checking battery, and
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has a lot of commands.

On 8/3/20, Candy Lowe  wrote:
> Traci,
> I wish I could help, but, I will not receive my orbit writer until Friday.
> At that time, if you haven't figured it out, I'll be glad to help.
> Does the orbit writer come with any type of braille or audio instructions?
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>>> On Aug 3, 2020, at 2:43 PM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
>> Hi all, has anyone else received their Orbit Writer? Got mine over the
>> weekend and so far I am unsuccessful at having it reconnect to more than
>> one device.
>>
>> I’m super frustrated. Is this user error or device issues? I’ve read and
>> reread the user’s guide, but cannot figure out where I may be going wrong.
>> I contacted Orbit Research this morning and he recommended I have the
>> device forget all paired connections and try again.
>>
>> Over the weekend and today, I’ve done this a couple of times with no
>> further success.
>>
>> Anyone else having issues? Fingers crossed, you have other ideas what may
>> be the problem.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Traci
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Re: Orbit Writer connections

[Traci Duncan]

Oh, I don’t want to put anyone off the device. My fingers are crossed that this 
is user error. :)

Unfortunately, no braille or audio quick start guide with the unit.

Here are the links to download support manuals.
http://www.orbitresearch.com/support/orbit-writer-user-guide-downloads/ 


Traci


> On Aug 3, 2020, at 1:38 PM, Candy Lowe  wrote:
> 
> Traci, 
> I wish I could help, but, I will not receive my orbit writer until Friday.  
> At that time, if you haven't figured it out, I'll be glad to help.  
> Does the orbit writer come with any type of braille or audio instructions?  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone  
> 
>>> On Aug 3, 2020, at 2:43 PM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
>> Hi all, has anyone else received their Orbit Writer? Got mine over the 
>> weekend and so far I am unsuccessful at having it reconnect to more than one 
>> device.
>> 
>> I’m super frustrated. Is this user error or device issues? I’ve read and 
>> reread the user’s guide, but cannot figure out where I may be going wrong. I 
>> contacted Orbit Research this morning and he recommended I have the device 
>> forget all paired connections and try again. 
>> 
>> Over the weekend and today, I’ve done this a couple of times with no further 
>> success.
>> 
>> Anyone else having issues? Fingers crossed, you have other ideas what may be 
>> the problem.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Traci
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RE: iPhone 8, worth it now?

[Gerardo Corripio]

Definitely the SE2. The 8 is discontinued in Apple, at least. The SE2 is the body of an 8, with inwards of an 11. Good luck!   Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10 De: Portia ScottEnviado: lunes, 3 de agosto de 2020 01:18 a. m.Para: viphone@googlegroups.comAsunto: iPhone 8, worth it now? Hi all, My mother is thinking of having my grandma give me Amazon gift cards towards an iPhone 8 for my birthday next month, as well as helping to fund it herself. Does anyone still use one? I cannot afford one of the phones with Face ID, and could hardly get my old iPhone X to recognize my face half the time, hence why I gave it back to T-Mobile about a year and a half ago,  or maybe it was two years… lol. But anyway, between the iPhone SE 2, and the iPhone 8, which one would you guys recommend? As I said, I am looking for something with Touch ID. Not just cause of not getting it to unlock hardly. That is part of it, but the other reason, is I have Cerebral Palsy in my whole right side and so having something with Touch ID would be easier for me. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/B2D97A72-1411-440D-BD16-D3FB5AFF3E9A%40gmail.com. 



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Re: Orbit Writer connections

[Candy Lowe]

Traci, 
I wish I could help, but, I will not receive my orbit writer until Friday.  At 
that time, if you haven't figured it out, I'll be glad to help.  
Does the orbit writer come with any type of braille or audio instructions?  

Sent from my iPhone  

>> On Aug 3, 2020, at 2:43 PM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
> Hi all, has anyone else received their Orbit Writer? Got mine over the 
> weekend and so far I am unsuccessful at having it reconnect to more than one 
> device.
> 
> I’m super frustrated. Is this user error or device issues? I’ve read and 
> reread the user’s guide, but cannot figure out where I may be going wrong. I 
> contacted Orbit Research this morning and he recommended I have the device 
> forget all paired connections and try again. 
> 
> Over the weekend and today, I’ve done this a couple of times with no further 
> success.
> 
> Anyone else having issues? Fingers crossed, you have other ideas what may be 
> the problem.
> 
> Thanks,
> Traci
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Re: Orbit Writer connections

[Joshua Hendrickson]

I'm supposed to be getting one soon, but hearing what you have to say
about yours, maybe I should cancel my order.

On 8/3/20, Traci Duncan  wrote:
> Hi all, has anyone else received their Orbit Writer? Got mine over the
> weekend and so far I am unsuccessful at having it reconnect to more than one
> device.
>
> I’m super frustrated. Is this user error or device issues? I’ve read and
> reread the user’s guide, but cannot figure out where I may be going wrong. I
> contacted Orbit Research this morning and he recommended I have the device
> forget all paired connections and try again.
>
> Over the weekend and today, I’ve done this a couple of times with no further
> success.
>
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> the problem.
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> Thanks,
> Traci
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Re: Using the stereo microphones on the iPhone

[Joshua Hendrickson]

If I could use stereo microphones on the iPhone, I wonder how that
would improve my recordings with Dolby on.  I'm very surprised at how
good they came out with whatever mike is on my iPhone 8.

On 8/3/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
> The new SE 2020 does, and I think at least the XR if not all the X's and the
> 11's.
>
>
>
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward
> Herbert
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna
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> Subject: Re: Using the stereo microphones on the iPhone
>
> Hi,
>
> I believe this is a feature in iOS 14. I'm not sure which iPhones have
> stereo microphones, so I don't know whether I can test it though.
>
> Best,
> Anna
>
>
>> On Aug 3, 2020, at 3:09 PM, Juan Mojena  wrote:
>>
>> That's really a shame. I will write Apple accessibility or is it Apple
>> directly to allow the use of the stereo microphones with audio
>> applications.  I wonder how good those microphones are? Because there are
>> certainly a lot of microphones on the market.
>>
>> Juan
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Aug 3, 2020, at 3:58 PM, Richard Turner 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Apple does not allow it for anything but video.
>>> Please write Apple Accessibility and request that they allow it for audio
>>> recording.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard
>>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass
>>> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient
>>> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not
>>> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" -
>>> Edward Herbert
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Juan Mojena
>>> Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 12:47 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Using the stereo microphones on the iPhone
>>>
>>> Has anyone been able to use  the stereo microphones on any app other than
>>> the video recorder on the iPhone 10 or 11?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Juan
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RE: Using the stereo microphones on the iPhone

[Richard Turner]

The new SE 2020 does, and I think at least the XR if not all the X's and the 
11's.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
Dresner
Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 1:12 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Re: Using the stereo microphones on the iPhone

Hi,

I believe this is a feature in iOS 14. I'm not sure which iPhones have stereo 
microphones, so I don't know whether I can test it though.

Best,
Anna


> On Aug 3, 2020, at 3:09 PM, Juan Mojena  wrote:
> 
> That's really a shame. I will write Apple accessibility or is it Apple 
> directly to allow the use of the stereo microphones with audio applications.  
> I wonder how good those microphones are? Because there are certainly a lot of 
> microphones on the market.
> 
> Juan 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 3, 2020, at 3:58 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Apple does not allow it for anything but video.
>> Please write Apple Accessibility and request that they allow it for audio 
>> recording.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
>> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
>> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
>> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
>> Herbert
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Juan 
>> Mojena
>> Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 12:47 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Using the stereo microphones on the iPhone
>> 
>> Has anyone been able to use  the stereo microphones on any app other than 
>> the video recorder on the iPhone 10 or 11?  
>> 
>> Thanks  
>> Juan 
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RE: Using the stereo microphones on the iPhone

[Richard Turner]

I would write both, accessibil...@apple.com and go through the Apple feedback 
at www.apple.com/feedback



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Juan 
Mojena
Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 1:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using the stereo microphones on the iPhone

That's really a shame. I will write Apple accessibility or is it Apple directly 
to allow the use of the stereo microphones with audio applications.  I wonder 
how good those microphones are? Because there are certainly a lot of 
microphones on the market.

Juan 



> On Aug 3, 2020, at 3:58 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Apple does not allow it for anything but video.
> Please write Apple Accessibility and request that they allow it for audio 
> recording.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Juan 
> Mojena
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> Subject: Using the stereo microphones on the iPhone
> 
> Has anyone been able to use  the stereo microphones on any app other than the 
> video recorder on the iPhone 10 or 11?  
> 
> Thanks  
> Juan 
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Re: Using the stereo microphones on the iPhone

[Anna Dresner]

Hi,

I believe this is a feature in iOS 14. I'm not sure which iPhones have stereo 
microphones, so I don't know whether I can test it though.

Best,
Anna


> On Aug 3, 2020, at 3:09 PM, Juan Mojena  wrote:
> 
> That's really a shame. I will write Apple accessibility or is it Apple 
> directly to allow the use of the stereo microphones with audio applications.  
> I wonder how good those microphones are? Because there are certainly a lot of 
> microphones on the market.
> 
> Juan 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 3, 2020, at 3:58 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Apple does not allow it for anything but video.
>> Please write Apple Accessibility and request that they allow it for audio 
>> recording.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
>> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
>> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
>> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
>> Herbert
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Juan 
>> Mojena
>> Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 12:47 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Using the stereo microphones on the iPhone
>> 
>> Has anyone been able to use  the stereo microphones on any app other than 
>> the video recorder on the iPhone 10 or 11?  
>> 
>> Thanks  
>> Juan 
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Re: Using the stereo microphones on the iPhone

[Juan Mojena]

That's really a shame. I will write Apple accessibility or is it Apple directly 
to allow the use of the stereo microphones with audio applications.  I wonder 
how good those microphones are? Because there are certainly a lot of 
microphones on the market.

Juan 



> On Aug 3, 2020, at 3:58 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
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> Apple does not allow it for anything but video.
> Please write Apple Accessibility and request that they allow it for audio 
> recording.
> 
> 
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> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Juan 
> Mojena
> Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 12:47 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Using the stereo microphones on the iPhone
> 
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> 
> Thanks  
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RE: Using the stereo microphones on the iPhone

[Richard Turner]

Apple does not allow it for anything but video.
Please write Apple Accessibility and request that they allow it for audio 
recording.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Juan 
Mojena
Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 12:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Using the stereo microphones on the iPhone

Has anyone been able to use  the stereo microphones on any app other than the 
video recorder on the iPhone 10 or 11?  

Thanks  
Juan 

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Using the stereo microphones on the iPhone

[Juan Mojena]

Has anyone been able to use  the stereo microphones on any app other than the 
video recorder on the iPhone 10 or 11?  

Thanks  
Juan 

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Orbit Writer connections

[Traci Duncan]

Hi all, has anyone else received their Orbit Writer? Got mine over the weekend 
and so far I am unsuccessful at having it reconnect to more than one device.

I’m super frustrated. Is this user error or device issues? I’ve read and reread 
the user’s guide, but cannot figure out where I may be going wrong. I contacted 
Orbit Research this morning and he recommended I have the device forget all 
paired connections and try again. 

Over the weekend and today, I’ve done this a couple of times with no further 
success.

Anyone else having issues? Fingers crossed, you have other ideas what may be 
the problem.

Thanks,
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RE: Facial recognition on The iPhone 11

[Carolyn]

Mine will work with or without glasses and with different glasses - pretty 
amazing, if you ask me - but, not with a mask. 

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juan mojena
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Subject: Re: Facial recognition on The iPhone 11

Hi Carolyn, as far as I understand it. In addition to the phone being able to 
recognize your face it also  can sense  when your eyes are looking at the 
phone. What I am wondering is how many of us blind folk can use attention mode 
Juan


Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 3, 2020, at 10:34 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:

Facial will work in the dark, but whenever mine doesn't come right up, I just 
punch my six-figure access code - have gotten pretty fast at doing that one. 

What is Attention Mode? 

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Since I’ve now ordered an iPhone 11 promax, I’m wondering how are  peoples  
experiences with Face  recognition  on the iPhone X and  or 11. Is face 
recognition for unlocking the phone as fast as using the finger pring  sensor?  
 Can the phone be unlocked in light or dark? I’m thinking  if   one  were  too 
wake up in the middle of the night and  Didn’t  want to turn on the light. What 
about attention  Mode  do most people turn that on or leave it off.

thank you in advance
Juan

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Re: Accessible screen recorder

[Isaac Hebert]

No screen recording can record from the iPhone's speaker as well.

On 8/3/20, Fazil  wrote:
> Would that record through headphone only?
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Jennie Facer
> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2020 9:12 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Accessible screen recorder
>
>
>
> Hi Mitch,
>
>
>
> What you have to do is go into settings and control center.
>
> Next, add screen recording to the controls.
>
> Now, you open control center and flick right to the screen recording
> feature.
>
> Fl;ick up on this feature to open the controls.
>
> Next, enable the Microphone.
>
> Next, double tap on start recording.
>
> Now go ahead and do your screen recording and then go back into control
> center and stop the screen recording. Double tap on the item that says
> selected screen recording. This will stop the recording and then it will put
> it in your photos.
>
>
>
> Hope this explains it,
>
>
>
> Jenn
>
>
>
> Jenn and Kumi
>
>   _
>
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> Mich Verrier mailto:mi...@eastlink.ca> >
> Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 9:34:46 AM
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> Subject: RE: Accessible screen recorder
>
>
>
> Hi all I to would like to know where this accessible screen recorder is to
> please I have a I phone 8 from Mich.
>
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> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of
> Ian Harrison
> Sent: August 3, 2020 11:29 AM
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> Subject: Re: Accessible screen recorder
>
> Oh ok. Where do the recordings go?
>
> Thanks very much
>
>> On 3 Aug 2020, at 11:37, Ian Harrison >  > wrote:
>>
>> Hi listers,
>> does anyone know of a simple and accessible screen recorder for use on the
>> iPhone? I need it for uni work. There are plenty out there but I need one
>> that works with voice over.
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>> Ian
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RE: Accessible screen recorder

[Fazil]

Would that record through headphone only?

Thanks!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jennie 
Facer
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2020 9:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Accessible screen recorder

 

Hi Mitch,

 

What you have to do is go into settings and control center.

Next, add screen recording to the controls.

Now, you open control center and flick right to the screen recording feature.

Fl;ick up on this feature to open the controls.

Next, enable the Microphone.

Next, double tap on start recording.

Now go ahead and do your screen recording and then go back into control center 
and stop the screen recording. Double tap on the item that says selected screen 
recording. This will stop the recording and then it will put it in your photos.

 

Hope this explains it,

 

Jenn

 

Jenn and Kumi

  _  

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Subject: RE: Accessible screen recorder 

 

Hi all I to would like to know where this accessible screen recorder is to 
please I have a I phone 8 from Mich.

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Ian 
Harrison
Sent: August 3, 2020 11:29 AM
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Subject: Re: Accessible screen recorder

Oh ok. Where do the recordings go?

Thanks very much

> On 3 Aug 2020, at 11:37, Ian Harrison   > wrote:
> 
> Hi listers,
> does anyone know of a simple and accessible screen recorder for use on the 
> iPhone? I need it for uni work. There are plenty out there but I need one 
> that works with voice over.
> 
> Thanks in advance
> Ian
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Re: Ipad or fire tablet pros and cons of each

[Mary Otten]

With the latest version of fire 0S, available on the latest HD eight and HD 8+, 
you can now dictate with voice view. I have no idea how accurate it is, as I 
would never dream of using that tablet for email.
Ditto for web browsing. Lousy experience!


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> On Aug 3, 2020, at 6:49 AM, Kathy Brandt  wrote:
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> she won’t be able to dictate emails.
> 
>> On Aug 3, 2020, at 8:58 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I do not have personal experience with the Fire tablet, but I have heard 
>> very good things about them.  Other than they run on Android, which is not 
>> my favorite but is better than it used to be and if they cannot save up for 
>> an iPad, then I'd suggest they read many reviews and make sure it has the 
>> features they want.
>> I know they make several sizes, they have a kids edition, standard and plus.
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
>> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
>> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
>> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
>> Herbert
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jen .
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>> Hi,
>> I am asking for a friend with a visually impaired daughter who cannot afford 
>> an iPad at the moment and was considering perhaps a fire tablet.  Any 
>> thoughts.  Are there many accessible apps and how is voiceover or whatever 
>> the screen reading software is for them.
>> Thanks in advance for any help.
>> Jen
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Re: Ipad or fire tablet pros and cons of each

[Mary Otten]

I think it would be helpful to know what this person expects to use the tablet 
for. I have had a few Kindle fire tablet overtime, and there’s just no way in 
the world I would want that as an all purpose tablet. I have the latest one 
with the extra gig of RAM, which is the HD 8+. If I just had one device, and it 
had to be a tablet, I would get an iPad before this thing. You don’t have to 
have the pro. You could get the mini, which sometimes shows up on sale, or the 
plain old iPad, which is even cheaper than many. Any of them is vastly superior 
to the Kindle fire, faster, smoother, better sounding, better apps, such as 
voice dream reader, which is way better on iOS than it is on android. If you 
wanta media consumption device, and you’re satisfied with the voicees you get 
on the Kindle, then it’s OK. But not as an all purpose device in my view. 
Better save your money and get something that’s going to last several years and 
have several updates.


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> On Aug 3, 2020, at 5:51 AM, Jen .  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I am asking for a friend with a visually impaired daughter who cannot afford 
> an iPad at the moment and was considering perhaps a fire tablet.  Any 
> thoughts.  Are there many accessible apps and how is voiceover or whatever 
> the screen reading software is for them.
> Thanks in advance for any help.
> Jen
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Re: Facial recognition on The iPhone 11

[juan mojena]

Hi Carolyn, as far as I understand it. In addition to the phone being able to 
recognize your face it also  can sense  when your eyes are looking at the 
phone. What I am wondering is how many of us blind folk can use attention mode
Juan


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On Aug 3, 2020, at 10:34 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:

Facial will work in the dark, but whenever mine doesn't come right up, I just 
punch my six-figure access code - have gotten pretty fast at doing that one. 

What is Attention Mode? 

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Subject: Facial recognition on The iPhone 11

Since I’ve now ordered an iPhone 11 promax, I’m wondering how are  peoples  
experiences with Face  recognition  on the iPhone X and  or 11. Is face 
recognition for unlocking the phone as fast as using the finger pring  sensor?  
 Can the phone be unlocked in light or dark? I’m thinking  if   one  were  too 
wake up in the middle of the night and  Didn’t  want to turn on the light. What 
about attention  Mode  do most people turn that on or leave it off.

thank you in advance 
Juan

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Re: Accessible screen recorder

[Dave Clement]

my apologies for my eroneous reply. I missed the point about a "screen 
recorder" and thought it was an audio recorder that was being sought. 

Dave Clement
Winnipeg MB


On Aug 3, 2020, at 11:12 AM, Jennie Facer  wrote:


Hi Mitch,

What you have to do is go into settings and = control center.
Next, add screen recording to the controls.<= /div>
Now, you open control center and flick right= to the screen recording feature.
Fl;ick up on this feature to open the contro= ls.
Next, enable the Microphone.
Next, double tap on start recording.
Now go ahead and do your screen recording an= d then go back into control 
center and stop the screen recording. Double ta= p on the item that says 
selected screen recording. This will stop the recor= ding and then it will put 
it in your photos.

Hope this explains it,

Je= nn

Jenn and Kumi
From: viphone@googlegroups.= com  on behalf of Mich 
Verrier 
Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 9:34:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Accessible screen recorder
 
Hi all I to would like to know where this accessib= le screen recorder is to 
please I have a I phone 8 from Mich.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf O= f Ian 
Harrison
Sent: August 3, 2020 11:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Accessible screen recorder

Oh ok. Where do the recordings go?

Thanks very much

> On 3 Aug 2020, at 11:37, Ian Harrison  wrote= :
> 
> Hi listers,
> does anyone know of a simple and accessible screen recorder for use on= the 
> iPhone? I need it for uni work. There are plenty out there but I need = one 
> that works with voice over.
> 
> Thanks in advance
> Ian
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Re: Accessible screen recorder

[Dave Clement]

Hi, 
I believe the app being discussed is "VoiceMemos" and it is one of the standard 
apps that comes with IOS. It will be on one of the pages of your home screen or 
potentially, in a folder called "Utilities" if such is present on your phone. 

This app is simple to use and very good for recordings. While its name says 
"memos", I have used it to record 2 and 3 hour long concerts. It allows you to 
choose the type of output file and supports a standard "share sheet" which 
allows you to move the output files to other locations. 

As with any recording app, the quality of the result will depend on the 
environment in which you are recording. Good luck. 

Dave Clement
Winnipeg MB 

On Aug 3, 2020, at 10:34 AM, Mich Verrier  wrote:

Hi all I to would like to know where this accessible screen recorder is to 
please I have a I phone 8 from Mich.

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Sent: August 3, 2020 11:29 AM
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Subject: Re: Accessible screen recorder

Oh ok. Where do the recordings go?

Thanks very much

> On 3 Aug 2020, at 11:37, Ian Harrison  wrote:
> 
> Hi listers,
> does anyone know of a simple and accessible screen recorder for use on the 
> iPhone? I need it for uni work. There are plenty out there but I need one 
> that works with voice over.
> 
> Thanks in advance
> Ian
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RE: Can you create folders within the native mail app

[Richard Turner]

I believe you have to pick which account or which mailbox you want this folder 
to be inside of.
Then you will have an edit field to name it.



Richard
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others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

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I tried this but when I tap on new mail box, there is no edit field.  Just the 
list of mail boxes.  Do you need to be in the inbox, or just in the list of 
mail boxes?
Kay Malmquist
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- Lao Tzu

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To: 
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Subject: RE: Can you create folders within the native mail app


Yes.
Double tap on Edit.
In the lower right is a New Mailbox button.
Give it a name, then pick a location, and hit save.
Then you can move emails into that separate mailbox.



Richard
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himself," and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
granting grace to others, I've never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
Herbert

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Hi,
Can you create folders within the native mail app.
Thanks.
Jen

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Re: Accessible screen recorder

[Jennie Facer]

Hi Mitch,

What you have to do is go into settings and control center.
Next, add screen recording to the controls.
Now, you open control center and flick right to the screen recording feature.
Fl;ick up on this feature to open the controls.
Next, enable the Microphone.
Next, double tap on start recording.
Now go ahead and do your screen recording and then go back into control center 
and stop the screen recording. Double tap on the item that says selected screen 
recording. This will stop the recording and then it will put it in your photos.

Hope this explains it,

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Mich 
Verrier 
Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 9:34:46 AM
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Subject: RE: Accessible screen recorder

Hi all I to would like to know where this accessible screen recorder is to 
please I have a I phone 8 from Mich.

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Sent: August 3, 2020 11:29 AM
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Oh ok. Where do the recordings go?

Thanks very much

> On 3 Aug 2020, at 11:37, Ian Harrison  wrote:
>
> Hi listers,
> does anyone know of a simple and accessible screen recorder for use on the 
> iPhone? I need it for uni work. There are plenty out there but I need one 
> that works with voice over.
>
> Thanks in advance
> Ian
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Re: Accessible screen recorder

[Jennie Facer]

They go in your photos. They are labeled as videos. Hope this helps.

Jenn and Kumi

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Harrison 
Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 9:29:17 AM
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Oh ok. Where do the recordings go?

Thanks very much

> On 3 Aug 2020, at 11:37, Ian Harrison  wrote:
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> Hi listers,
> does anyone know of a simple and accessible screen recorder for use on the 
> iPhone? I need it for uni work. There are plenty out there but I need one 
> that works with voice over.
>
> Thanks in advance
> Ian
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RE: learning new things on my iPhone so cool!!!!!

[Carolyn]

I'm glad you don't have to, wish I didn't have to. I wonder what I could figure 
out so that I didn't? Do you have access code as well as facial ID? I don't 
have to do both, but one or the other to unlock screen. 

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Kenny
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Hmmm... I'll need to figure out why I'm not required to unlock my screen when 
responding too a text. I can even send a text or email without having too 
unlock my screen first when using Siri. I do have a logitech Bluetooth keyboard 
paired to my iPhone. Also I use the 3 finger triple tap to keep the screen 
curtain activated at all times.


I am running iOS 13.6 on an iPhone 8.


On 8/3/2020 10:40 AM, Carolyn wrote:
> Even if I get a text message from one of my contacts, Siri tells me I have to 
> unlock the screen for her to read it.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Kenny
> Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 8:46 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: learning new things on my iPhone so cool!
>
> Really? Maybe you need too have the texter in your contacts. I can respond 
> too a text by voice, without having too unlock my phone first.
> Their in my Contacts list though.
>
>
> On 8/2/2020 8:54 PM, Carolyn wrote:
>> Siri tells me I have to unlock my screen for her to read a text.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Kenny
>> Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2020 8:38 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: learning new things on my iPhone so cool!
>>
>> I'm now learning how you can do practically anything on yur iPhone using 
>> Siri. I hear a text, and I say "Hey Siri" respond too last text. Then I say 
>> what I want. She repeats it, and I then say send. I'm able too do this while 
>> my iPhone is on the dresser and I'm lying in bed. Have also composed an 
>> entire email and sent it using Siri.
>>
>>
>> It's amazing how well Siri works on the iPhone. Was able too do this even 
>> while the screen was locked.
>>
>>
>> On 8/2/2020 3:19 PM, Joshua Hendrickson wrote:
>>> Hi to all.  In the last couple of days, I have learned some new 
>>> iPhone things.  I am now successfully using the audible app which I 
>>> have no idea why I didn't use it sooner.  It is so easy to find a 
>>> book, and download it on my iPhone then delete the book, or remove 
>>> from device as the audible app calls it.  I regret some of the 
>>> things I did with audible in the past.  I also have just learned in 
>>> the past few minutes how to receive a call from someone then add the 
>>> number who called me to my contacts.  That is a pretty easy process 
>>> as well.  I need to learn how to use email next, but I know I will 
>>> be able to do it.  Have a great day all.
>>>

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Re: Can you create folders within the native mail app

[Donna Casteen]

To create a new folder for a specific mailbox: Open the mail app, navigate to 
where your list of mailboxes are iCloud, Gmail etc. in the upper right tap on 
Edit. Tap on New Mailbox in lower right. An text field will immediately open 
for you to name the folder. After naming the folder, swipe once to Location & 
tap to open. Choose where you want the new folder. Tap Done in the upper right.

Donna
> 
> Ii tried this but when I tap on new mail box, there is no edit field.  Just 
> the list of mail boxes.  Do you need to be in the inbox, or just in the list 
> of mail boxes?
> Kay Malmquist
> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
> 
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> - Lao Tzu
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Richard Turner" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2020 8:09 AM
> Subject: RE: Can you create folders within the native mail app
> 
> 
> Yes.
> Double tap on Edit.
> In the lower right is a New Mailbox button.
> Give it a name, then pick a location, and hit save.
> Then you can move emails into that separate mailbox.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself," and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I've never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
> 
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jen .
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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> Can you create folders within the native mail app.
> Thanks.
> Jen
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RE: Accessible screen recorder

[Mich Verrier]

Hi all I to would like to know where this accessible screen recorder is to 
please I have a I phone 8 from Mich.

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Harrison
Sent: August 3, 2020 11:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Accessible screen recorder

Oh ok. Where do the recordings go?

Thanks very much

> On 3 Aug 2020, at 11:37, Ian Harrison  wrote:
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> Hi listers,
> does anyone know of a simple and accessible screen recorder for use on the 
> iPhone? I need it for uni work. There are plenty out there but I need one 
> that works with voice over.
> 
> Thanks in advance
> Ian
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Re: Accessible screen recorder

[Ian Harrison]

Oh ok. Where do the recordings go?

Thanks very much

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> Hi listers,
> does anyone know of a simple and accessible screen recorder for use on the 
> iPhone? I need it for uni work. There are plenty out there but I need one 
> that works with voice over.
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> Thanks in advance
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Re: Can you create folders within the native mail app

[Kay Malmquist]

I tried this but when I tap on new mail box, there is no edit field.  Just 
the list of mail boxes.  Do you need to be in the inbox, or just in the list 
of mail boxes?
Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be.
- Lao Tzu

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From: "Richard Turner" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2020 8:09 AM
Subject: RE: Can you create folders within the native mail app


Yes.
Double tap on Edit.
In the lower right is a New Mailbox button.
Give it a name, then pick a location, and hit save.
Then you can move emails into that separate mailbox.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself," and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
granting grace to others, I've never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
Herbert

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Subject: Can you create folders within the native mail app

Hi,
Can you create folders within the native mail app.
Thanks.
Jen

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Re: learning new things on my iPhone so cool!!!!!

[Kenny]

Hmmm... I'll need to figure out why I'm not required to unlock my screen 
when responding too a text. I can even send a text or email without 
having too unlock my screen first when using Siri. I do have a logitech 
Bluetooth keyboard paired to my iPhone. Also I use the 3 finger triple 
tap to keep the screen curtain activated at all times.



I am running iOS 13.6 on an iPhone 8.


On 8/3/2020 10:40 AM, Carolyn wrote:

Even if I get a text message from one of my contacts, Siri tells me I have to 
unlock the screen for her to read it.

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Kenny
Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 8:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: learning new things on my iPhone so cool!

Really? Maybe you need too have the texter in your contacts. I can respond too 
a text by voice, without having too unlock my phone first.
Their in my Contacts list though.


On 8/2/2020 8:54 PM, Carolyn wrote:

Siri tells me I have to unlock my screen for her to read a text.

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Kenny
Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2020 8:38 PM
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Subject: Re: learning new things on my iPhone so cool!

I'm now learning how you can do practically anything on yur iPhone using Siri. I hear a 
text, and I say "Hey Siri" respond too last text. Then I say what I want. She 
repeats it, and I then say send. I'm able too do this while my iPhone is on the dresser 
and I'm lying in bed. Have also composed an entire email and sent it using Siri.


It's amazing how well Siri works on the iPhone. Was able too do this even while 
the screen was locked.


On 8/2/2020 3:19 PM, Joshua Hendrickson wrote:

Hi to all.  In the last couple of days, I have learned some new iPhone
things.  I am now successfully using the audible app which I have no
idea why I didn't use it sooner.  It is so easy to find a book, and
download it on my iPhone then delete the book, or remove from device
as the audible app calls it.  I regret some of the things I did with
audible in the past.  I also have just learned in the past few minutes
how to receive a call from someone then add the number who called me
to my contacts.  That is a pretty easy process as well.  I need to
learn how to use email next, but I know I will be able to do it.  Have
a great day all.



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RE: learning new things on my iPhone so cool!!!!!

[Carolyn]

Even if I get a text message from one of my contacts, Siri tells me I have to 
unlock the screen for her to read it. 

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Kenny
Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 8:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: learning new things on my iPhone so cool!

Really? Maybe you need too have the texter in your contacts. I can respond too 
a text by voice, without having too unlock my phone first. 
Their in my Contacts list though.


On 8/2/2020 8:54 PM, Carolyn wrote:
> Siri tells me I have to unlock my screen for her to read a text.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Kenny
> Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2020 8:38 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: learning new things on my iPhone so cool!
>
> I'm now learning how you can do practically anything on yur iPhone using 
> Siri. I hear a text, and I say "Hey Siri" respond too last text. Then I say 
> what I want. She repeats it, and I then say send. I'm able too do this while 
> my iPhone is on the dresser and I'm lying in bed. Have also composed an 
> entire email and sent it using Siri.
>
>
> It's amazing how well Siri works on the iPhone. Was able too do this even 
> while the screen was locked.
>
>
> On 8/2/2020 3:19 PM, Joshua Hendrickson wrote:
>> Hi to all.  In the last couple of days, I have learned some new iPhone
>> things.  I am now successfully using the audible app which I have no
>> idea why I didn't use it sooner.  It is so easy to find a book, and
>> download it on my iPhone then delete the book, or remove from device
>> as the audible app calls it.  I regret some of the things I did with
>> audible in the past.  I also have just learned in the past few minutes
>> how to receive a call from someone then add the number who called me
>> to my contacts.  That is a pretty easy process as well.  I need to
>> learn how to use email next, but I know I will be able to do it.  Have
>> a great day all.
>>

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RE: Facial recognition on The iPhone 11

[Carolyn]

Facial will work in the dark, but whenever mine doesn't come right up, I just 
punch my six-figure access code - have gotten pretty fast at doing that one. 

What is Attention Mode? 

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juan mojena
Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2020 10:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Facial recognition on The iPhone 11

Since I’ve now ordered an iPhone 11 promax, I’m wondering how are  peoples  
experiences with Face  recognition  on the iPhone X and  or 11. Is face 
recognition for unlocking the phone as fast as using the finger pring  sensor?  
 Can the phone be unlocked in light or dark? I’m thinking  if   one  were  too 
wake up in the middle of the night and  Didn’t  want to turn on the light. What 
about attention  Mode  do most people turn that on or leave it off.

thank you in advance 
Juan

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Re: Ipad or fire tablet pros and cons of each

[Ben Mustill-Rose]

Hi

They're very capable devices IMO. I find VoiceOver to be more polished
than VoiceView but your typical iPad's 8 times the price and it's
definitely not 8 times as good.
Try to go for the add free version if possible which in the UK is only
£10 extra.

Cheers,
Ben.

On 8/3/20, Kathy Brandt  wrote:
> she won’t be able to dictate emails.
>
>> On Aug 3, 2020, at 8:58 AM, Richard Turner 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I do not have personal experience with the Fire tablet, but I have heard
>> very good things about them.  Other than they run on Android, which is not
>> my favorite but is better than it used to be and if they cannot save up
>> for an iPad, then I'd suggest they read many reviews and make sure it has
>> the features they want.
>> I know they make several sizes, they have a kids edition, standard and
>> plus.
>>
>>
>> Richard
>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass
>> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient
>> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not
>> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" -
>> Edward Herbert
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jen
>> .
>> Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 5:52 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Ipad or fire tablet pros and cons of each
>>
>> Hi,
>> I am asking for a friend with a visually impaired daughter who cannot
>> afford an iPad at the moment and was considering perhaps a fire tablet.
>> Any thoughts.  Are there many accessible apps and how is voiceover or
>> whatever the screen reading software is for them.
>> Thanks in advance for any help.
>> Jen
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RE: Ipad or fire tablet pros and cons of each

[Richard Turner]

Did I miss something in the original post?
Was dictating emails a requirement?
Alexa can send emails and I believe Alexa is accessible on the Fire tablet, is 
that not correct?



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kathy 
Brandt
Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 6:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Ipad or fire tablet pros and cons of each

she won’t be able to dictate emails.

> On Aug 3, 2020, at 8:58 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I do not have personal experience with the Fire tablet, but I have heard 
> very good things about them.  Other than they run on Android, which is not my 
> favorite but is better than it used to be and if they cannot save up for an 
> iPad, then I'd suggest they read many reviews and make sure it has the 
> features they want.
> I know they make several sizes, they have a kids edition, standard and plus.
> 
> 
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jen .
> Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 5:52 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Ipad or fire tablet pros and cons of each
> 
> Hi,
> I am asking for a friend with a visually impaired daughter who cannot afford 
> an iPad at the moment and was considering perhaps a fire tablet.  Any 
> thoughts.  Are there many accessible apps and how is voiceover or whatever 
> the screen reading software is for them.
> Thanks in advance for any help.
> Jen
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Re: Ipad or fire tablet pros and cons of each

[Kathy Brandt]

she won’t be able to dictate emails.

> On Aug 3, 2020, at 8:58 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I do not have personal experience with the Fire tablet, but I have heard 
> very good things about them.  Other than they run on Android, which is not my 
> favorite but is better than it used to be and if they cannot save up for an 
> iPad, then I'd suggest they read many reviews and make sure it has the 
> features they want.
> I know they make several sizes, they have a kids edition, standard and plus.
> 
> 
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jen .
> Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 5:52 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Ipad or fire tablet pros and cons of each
> 
> Hi,
> I am asking for a friend with a visually impaired daughter who cannot afford 
> an iPad at the moment and was considering perhaps a fire tablet.  Any 
> thoughts.  Are there many accessible apps and how is voiceover or whatever 
> the screen reading software is for them.
> Thanks in advance for any help.
> Jen
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Re: learning new things on my iPhone so cool!!!!!

[Kenny]

Yes, I've done that too. Works great!


Have also allowed Aira too link with both the Lift and Uber share ride 
apps. Now I can have an Aira volunteer request a lift/Uber ride for me. 
They can even assist the driver in locating exactly where I am.



I've also activated the "Call Volunteer" Siri shortcut in the Aira More 
tab. Now I can simply say: "Hey Siri: Call volunteer" to have her 
automatically open the Aira app and call a volunteer.



With the power of Siri and iOS Shortcuts...You can practically trigger 
any feature on your iPhone, using your voice.



On 8/2/2020 9:57 PM, Holly wrote:

Kenney:

You can ask Siri to open apps for you also.  That way, you don't have 
to flick up and down and change pages to find the app you want.


She won't close the app though.  You still have to do this through the 
app switcher.


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RE: Can you create folders within the native mail app

[Richard Turner]

Yes.
Double tap on Edit.
In the lower right is a New Mailbox button.
Give it a name, then pick a location, and hit save.
Then you can move emails into that separate mailbox.



Richard
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Hi,
Can you create folders within the native mail app.
Thanks.
Jen

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RE: Ipad or fire tablet pros and cons of each

[Richard Turner]

I do not have personal experience with the Fire tablet, but I have heard very 
good things about them.  Other than they run on Android, which is not my 
favorite but is better than it used to be and if they cannot save up for an 
iPad, then I'd suggest they read many reviews and make sure it has the features 
they want.
I know they make several sizes, they have a kids edition, standard and plus.


Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jen .
Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 5:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Ipad or fire tablet pros and cons of each

Hi,
I am asking for a friend with a visually impaired daughter who cannot afford an 
iPad at the moment and was considering perhaps a fire tablet.  Any thoughts.  
Are there many accessible apps and how is voiceover or whatever the screen 
reading software is for them.
Thanks in advance for any help.
Jen

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Ipad or fire tablet pros and cons of each

[Jen .]

Hi,
I am asking for a friend with a visually impaired daughter who cannot afford an 
iPad at the moment and was considering perhaps a fire tablet.  Any thoughts.  
Are there many accessible apps and how is voiceover or whatever the screen 
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Thanks in advance for any help.
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Re: iPhone 8, worth it now?

[Joshua Hendrickson]

I've only had my iPhone 8 for just over one year, so I see no need to
get a new iPhone just yet.  The new SE phones sound so cool though.  I
know a lot of people who have them really like them.

On 8/3/20, Justin Harris  wrote:
> I just got my SE on Saturday and am loving it. I have experienced both face
> and touch id. No real preference here. Both work great. Very happy with my
> purchase. I wouldn't go back to the 8. Yeah, it's the same size, but the SE
> is much more powerful and will get a few more years worth of updates than
> the 8.
>
>
> Enviado desde mi iPhone
>
>> El 08/03/2020, a la(s) 5:02 a. m., lenron brown 
>> escribió:
>>
>> SE 2020 gets my vote as well. I tried face id and didn't like it much
>> either. Only reason why I would get a max if I really wanted a bigger
>> device. I plan on holding on to my 7plus for another year though. If
>> there end up being something with face id and touch id good for apple.
>>
>>> On 8/3/20, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>>> The SE 2020,
>>>
>>> There is no real reason to go backwards when you can get the latest
>>> model.
>>>
>>> The 8 is still a great phone but is now coming up 3 years old,
>>> The SE 2020 has the same shape and size as the 8 but has the latest
>>> processor and related camera technology although only one camera
>>> I for one would go the se especially when the price of them is so good.
>>>
>>> Good luck.
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>>
>>> Simon F
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Mich
>>> Verrier
>>> Sent: Monday, 3 August 2020 6:22 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: iPhone 8, worth it now?
>>>
>>> Hi last year when I upgraded my phone I whent for a I phone 8. I whent
>>> from
>>> a I phone 6s to a 8 and so I would recommend that unless you want the I
>>> phone se since it is newer and does have touch id just like the I phone
>>> 8
>>> does but that is a older moddle. Hth. From Mich.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Portia Scott
>>> Sent: August 3, 2020 2:18 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: iPhone 8, worth it now?
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> My mother is thinking of having my grandma give me Amazon gift cards
>>> towards
>>> an iPhone 8 for my birthday next month, as well as helping to fund it
>>> herself.
>>>
>>> Does anyone still use one? I cannot afford one of the phones with Face
>>> ID,
>>> and could hardly get my old iPhone X to recognize my face half the time,
>>> hence why I gave it back to T-Mobile about a year and a half ago,  or
>>> maybe
>>> it was two years… lol.
>>>
>>> But anyway, between the iPhone SE 2, and the iPhone 8, which one would
>>> you
>>> guys recommend? As I said, I am looking for something with Touch ID. Not
>>> just cause of not getting it to unlock hardly. That is part of it, but
>>> the
>>> other reason, is I have Cerebral Palsy in my whole right side and so
>>> having
>>> something with Touch ID would be easier for me.
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Re: learning new things on my iPhone so cool!!!!!

[Kenny]

Really? Maybe you need too have the texter in your contacts. I can 
respond too a text by voice, without having too unlock my phone first. 
Their in my Contacts list though.



On 8/2/2020 8:54 PM, Carolyn wrote:

Siri tells me I have to unlock my screen for her to read a text.

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Kenny
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Subject: Re: learning new things on my iPhone so cool!

I'm now learning how you can do practically anything on yur iPhone using Siri. I hear a 
text, and I say "Hey Siri" respond too last text. Then I say what I want. She 
repeats it, and I then say send. I'm able too do this while my iPhone is on the dresser 
and I'm lying in bed. Have also composed an entire email and sent it using Siri.


It's amazing how well Siri works on the iPhone. Was able too do this even while 
the screen was locked.


On 8/2/2020 3:19 PM, Joshua Hendrickson wrote:

Hi to all.  In the last couple of days, I have learned some new iPhone
things.  I am now successfully using the audible app which I have no
idea why I didn't use it sooner.  It is so easy to find a book, and
download it on my iPhone then delete the book, or remove from device
as the audible app calls it.  I regret some of the things I did with
audible in the past.  I also have just learned in the past few minutes
how to receive a call from someone then add the number who called me
to my contacts.  That is a pretty easy process as well.  I need to
learn how to use email next, but I know I will be able to do it.  Have
a great day all.



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Re: Accessible screen recorder

[Richard Turner]

There is a built-in screen recorder that if not already in the Control Center, 
can be added.
It works fabulously with VoiceOver.
If you cannot find it or figure out how it works, let us know.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Aug 3, 2020, at 3:37 AM, Ian Harrison  wrote:

Hi listers,
does anyone know of a simple and accessible screen recorder for use on the 
iPhone? I need it for uni work. There are plenty out there but I need one that 
works with voice over.

Thanks in advance
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Can you create folders within the native mail app

[Jen .]

Hi,
Can you create folders within the native mail app.
Thanks.
Jen

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Re: iPhone 8, worth it now?

[Justin Harris]

I just got my SE on Saturday and am loving it. I have experienced both face and 
touch id. No real preference here. Both work great. Very happy with my 
purchase. I wouldn't go back to the 8. Yeah, it's the same size, but the SE is 
much more powerful and will get a few more years worth of updates than the 8.


Enviado desde mi iPhone

> El 08/03/2020, a la(s) 5:02 a. m., lenron brown  escribió:
> 
> SE 2020 gets my vote as well. I tried face id and didn't like it much
> either. Only reason why I would get a max if I really wanted a bigger
> device. I plan on holding on to my 7plus for another year though. If
> there end up being something with face id and touch id good for apple.
> 
>> On 8/3/20, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>> The SE 2020,
>> 
>> There is no real reason to go backwards when you can get the latest model.
>> 
>> The 8 is still a great phone but is now coming up 3 years old,
>> The SE 2020 has the same shape and size as the 8 but has the latest
>> processor and related camera technology although only one camera
>> I for one would go the se especially when the price of them is so good.
>> 
>> Good luck.
>> 
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> 
>> Simon F
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mich
>> Verrier
>> Sent: Monday, 3 August 2020 6:22 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: iPhone 8, worth it now?
>> 
>> Hi last year when I upgraded my phone I whent for a I phone 8. I whent from
>> a I phone 6s to a 8 and so I would recommend that unless you want the I
>> phone se since it is newer and does have touch id just like the I phone 8
>> does but that is a older moddle. Hth. From Mich.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Portia Scott
>> Sent: August 3, 2020 2:18 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: iPhone 8, worth it now?
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> My mother is thinking of having my grandma give me Amazon gift cards towards
>> an iPhone 8 for my birthday next month, as well as helping to fund it
>> herself.
>> 
>> Does anyone still use one? I cannot afford one of the phones with Face ID,
>> and could hardly get my old iPhone X to recognize my face half the time,
>> hence why I gave it back to T-Mobile about a year and a half ago,  or maybe
>> it was two years… lol.
>> 
>> But anyway, between the iPhone SE 2, and the iPhone 8, which one would you
>> guys recommend? As I said, I am looking for something with Touch ID. Not
>> just cause of not getting it to unlock hardly. That is part of it, but the
>> other reason, is I have Cerebral Palsy in my whole right side and so having
>> something with Touch ID would be easier for me.
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Accessible screen recorder

[Ian Harrison]

Hi listers,
does anyone know of a simple and accessible screen recorder for use on the 
iPhone? I need it for uni work. There are plenty out there but I need one that 
works with voice over.

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RE: iPhone 8, worth it now?

[Simon A Fogarty]

The touch and face id have to come,

Samsung have been doing it for a couple of years now,

 I take it apple are just refining the technology as there were troubles with 
samsungs builds.

-Original Message-
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brown
Sent: Monday, 3 August 2020 10:02 PM
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SE 2020 gets my vote as well. I tried face id and didn't like it much either. 
Only reason why I would get a max if I really wanted a bigger device. I plan on 
holding on to my 7plus for another year though. If there end up being something 
with face id and touch id good for apple.

On 8/3/20, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> The SE 2020,
>
>  There is no real reason to go backwards when you can get the latest model.
>
> The 8 is still a great phone but is now coming up 3 years old, The SE 
> 2020 has the same shape and size as the 8 but has the latest processor 
> and related camera technology although only one camera I for one would 
> go the se especially when the price of them is so good.
>
> Good luck.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> Simon F
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Mich Verrier
> Sent: Monday, 3 August 2020 6:22 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iPhone 8, worth it now?
>
> Hi last year when I upgraded my phone I whent for a I phone 8. I whent 
> from a I phone 6s to a 8 and so I would recommend that unless you want 
> the I phone se since it is newer and does have touch id just like the 
> I phone 8 does but that is a older moddle. Hth. From Mich.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Portia Scott
> Sent: August 3, 2020 2:18 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: iPhone 8, worth it now?
>
> Hi all,
>
> My mother is thinking of having my grandma give me Amazon gift cards 
> towards an iPhone 8 for my birthday next month, as well as helping to 
> fund it herself.
>
> Does anyone still use one? I cannot afford one of the phones with Face 
> ID, and could hardly get my old iPhone X to recognize my face half the 
> time, hence why I gave it back to T-Mobile about a year and a half 
> ago,  or maybe it was two years… lol.
>
> But anyway, between the iPhone SE 2, and the iPhone 8, which one would 
> you guys recommend? As I said, I am looking for something with Touch 
> ID. Not just cause of not getting it to unlock hardly. That is part of 
> it, but the other reason, is I have Cerebral Palsy in my whole right 
> side and so having something with Touch ID would be easier for me.
>
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RE: Facial recognition on The iPhone 11

[Simon A Fogarty]

Attention mode now turns off automatically if you have voioceover enabled.

 And yeah it's great to be able to unlock your phone without the lights on,

 

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Facial recognition on The iPhone 11

Face recognition doesn't require any light, so you don't need to turn on a 
light.

I have turned off attention mode. I just couldn't get the hang of it, and I was 
finding it too fgrustrating. I bet you could get used to it though, and I can 
see where it would add some security.

I think face recognition is faster and more convenient then the finger print 
scanner except when it isn't. For the most part it just works, and it's just 
become habit to glance at the phone when I pick up the phone and start working 
on it. Occasionally though, I want to just reach over and do something while 
it's sitting on the table, and that's when I get frustrated when I realize I 
have to pick it up so it can see my face.

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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> juan mojena
> Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2020 9:42 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Facial recognition on The iPhone 11
> 
> Since I’ve now ordered an iPhone 11 promax, I’m wondering how are  
> peoples experiences with Face  recognition  on the iPhone X and  or 
> 11. Is face recognition for unlocking the phone as fast as using the finger 
> pring  sensor?
> Can the phone be unlocked in light or dark? I’m thinking  if   one  were  too 
> wake
> up in the middle of the night and  Didn’t  want to turn on the light. 
> What about attention  Mode  do most people turn that on or leave it off.
> 
> thank you in advance
> Juan
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: iPhone 8, worth it now?

[lenron brown]

SE 2020 gets my vote as well. I tried face id and didn't like it much
either. Only reason why I would get a max if I really wanted a bigger
device. I plan on holding on to my 7plus for another year though. If
there end up being something with face id and touch id good for apple.

On 8/3/20, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> The SE 2020,
>
>  There is no real reason to go backwards when you can get the latest model.
>
> The 8 is still a great phone but is now coming up 3 years old,
> The SE 2020 has the same shape and size as the 8 but has the latest
> processor and related camera technology although only one camera
> I for one would go the se especially when the price of them is so good.
>
> Good luck.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> Simon F
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mich
> Verrier
> Sent: Monday, 3 August 2020 6:22 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iPhone 8, worth it now?
>
> Hi last year when I upgraded my phone I whent for a I phone 8. I whent from
> a I phone 6s to a 8 and so I would recommend that unless you want the I
> phone se since it is newer and does have touch id just like the I phone 8
> does but that is a older moddle. Hth. From Mich.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Portia Scott
> Sent: August 3, 2020 2:18 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: iPhone 8, worth it now?
>
> Hi all,
>
> My mother is thinking of having my grandma give me Amazon gift cards towards
> an iPhone 8 for my birthday next month, as well as helping to fund it
> herself.
>
> Does anyone still use one? I cannot afford one of the phones with Face ID,
> and could hardly get my old iPhone X to recognize my face half the time,
> hence why I gave it back to T-Mobile about a year and a half ago,  or maybe
> it was two years… lol.
>
> But anyway, between the iPhone SE 2, and the iPhone 8, which one would you
> guys recommend? As I said, I am looking for something with Touch ID. Not
> just cause of not getting it to unlock hardly. That is part of it, but the
> other reason, is I have Cerebral Palsy in my whole right side and so having
> something with Touch ID would be easier for me.
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RE: Facial recognition on The iPhone 11

[Simon A Fogarty]

I don't personally think face id is as fast as touch but it's not a lot of 
difference with the newer chipsets.


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mojena
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Subject: Facial recognition on The iPhone 11

Since I’ve now ordered an iPhone 11 promax, I’m wondering how are  peoples  
experiences with Face  recognition  on the iPhone X and  or 11. Is face 
recognition for unlocking the phone as fast as using the finger pring  sensor?  
 Can the phone be unlocked in light or dark? I’m thinking  if   one  were  too 
wake up in the middle of the night and  Didn’t  want to turn on the light. What 
about attention  Mode  do most people turn that on or leave it off.

thank you in advance 
Juan

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RE: iPhone 8, worth it now?

[Simon A Fogarty]

The SE 2020,

 There is no real reason to go backwards when you can get the latest model.

The 8 is still a great phone but is now coming up 3 years old,
The SE 2020 has the same shape and size as the 8 but has the latest processor 
and related camera technology although only one camera 
I for one would go the se especially when the price of them is so good.

Good luck.


Cheers,


Simon F


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Verrier
Sent: Monday, 3 August 2020 6:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone 8, worth it now?

Hi last year when I upgraded my phone I whent for a I phone 8. I whent from a I 
phone 6s to a 8 and so I would recommend that unless you want the I phone se 
since it is newer and does have touch id just like the I phone 8 does but that 
is a older moddle. Hth. From Mich.

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Subject: iPhone 8, worth it now?

Hi all,

My mother is thinking of having my grandma give me Amazon gift cards towards an 
iPhone 8 for my birthday next month, as well as helping to fund it herself.

Does anyone still use one? I cannot afford one of the phones with Face ID, and 
could hardly get my old iPhone X to recognize my face half the time, hence why 
I gave it back to T-Mobile about a year and a half ago,  or maybe it was two 
years… lol.

But anyway, between the iPhone SE 2, and the iPhone 8, which one would you guys 
recommend? As I said, I am looking for something with Touch ID. Not just cause 
of not getting it to unlock hardly. That is part of it, but the other reason, 
is I have Cerebral Palsy in my whole right side and so having something with 
Touch ID would be easier for me.

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RE: iPhone 8, worth it now?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Josh,

I'd highly suggest not thinking of face ID as crap,

I've used it for the passed almost 3 years and have had no issues with it,

I think you'll find that face id is with us for a number of years to come yet,
Infact the 2021 iphone is rumoured to have both face id and touch id 

I've used both and each has their pro's and con's 

Until you have actually tried it,
Don't knock it.

Good luck with updating your phone when you get around to it.
-Original Message-
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Hendrickson
Sent: Monday, 3 August 2020 6:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 8, worth it now?

I also have an iPhone 8.  I don't understand this talk of poor battery life and 
poor speakers in the iPhone 8.  My iPhone 8 is working perfectly fine.  I'd 
also go with the newer SE2020 because of the faster processor.  My next iPhone 
in a couple of years, will probably be the iPhone SE2020.  I like the thought 
of having another iPhone with a home button and touch ID, and not that face ID 
crap.

On 8/3/20, Mich Verrier  wrote:
> Hi last year when I upgraded my phone I whent for a I phone 8. I whent 
> from a I phone 6s to a 8 and so I would recommend that unless you want 
> the I phone se since it is newer and does have touch id just like the 
> I phone 8 does but that is a older moddle. Hth. From Mich.
>
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: August 3, 2020 2:18 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: iPhone 8, worth it now?
>
> Hi all,
>
> My mother is thinking of having my grandma give me Amazon gift cards 
> towards an iPhone 8 for my birthday next month, as well as helping to 
> fund it herself.
>
> Does anyone still use one? I cannot afford one of the phones with Face 
> ID, and could hardly get my old iPhone X to recognize my face half the 
> time, hence why I gave it back to T-Mobile about a year and a half 
> ago,  or maybe it was two years… lol.
>
> But anyway, between the iPhone SE 2, and the iPhone 8, which one would 
> you guys recommend? As I said, I am looking for something with Touch 
> ID. Not just cause of not getting it to unlock hardly. That is part of 
> it, but the other reason, is I have Cerebral Palsy in my whole right 
> side and so having something with Touch ID would be easier for me.
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Re: iPhone 8, worth it now?

[Joshua Hendrickson]

That is a very good point.  I really should update my iPhone soon.  I
just really like 12.41.

On 8/3/20, Gordon  wrote:
> Another good reason to get the SE2 is the fact that it will receive
> updates longer than the 8.
>
> On 8/3/2020 1:42 AM, Joshua Hendrickson wrote:
>> I also have an iPhone 8.  I don't understand this talk of poor battery
>> life and poor speakers in the iPhone 8.  My iPhone 8 is working
>> perfectly fine.  I'd also go with the newer SE2020 because of the
>> faster processor.  My next iPhone in a couple of years, will probably
>> be the iPhone SE2020.  I like the thought of having another iPhone
>> with a home button and touch ID, and not that face ID crap.
>>
>> On 8/3/20, Mich Verrier  wrote:
>>> Hi last year when I upgraded my phone I whent for a I phone 8. I whent
>>> from
>>> a I phone 6s to a 8 and so I would recommend that unless you want the I
>>> phone se since it is newer and does have touch id just like the I phone
>>> 8
>>> does but that is a older moddle. Hth. From Mich.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Portia Scott
>>> Sent: August 3, 2020 2:18 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: iPhone 8, worth it now?
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> My mother is thinking of having my grandma give me Amazon gift cards
>>> towards
>>> an iPhone 8 for my birthday next month, as well as helping to fund it
>>> herself.
>>>
>>> Does anyone still use one? I cannot afford one of the phones with Face
>>> ID,
>>> and could hardly get my old iPhone X to recognize my face half the time,
>>> hence why I gave it back to T-Mobile about a year and a half ago,  or
>>> maybe
>>> it was two years… lol.
>>>
>>> But anyway, between the iPhone SE 2, and the iPhone 8, which one would
>>> you
>>> guys recommend? As I said, I am looking for something with Touch ID. Not
>>> just cause of not getting it to unlock hardly. That is part of it, but
>>> the
>>> other reason, is I have Cerebral Palsy in my whole right side and so
>>> having
>>> something with Touch ID would be easier for me.
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Re: iPhone 8, worth it now?

[Gordon]

Another good reason to get the SE2 is the fact that it will receive 
updates longer than the 8.


On 8/3/2020 1:42 AM, Joshua Hendrickson wrote:

I also have an iPhone 8.  I don't understand this talk of poor battery
life and poor speakers in the iPhone 8.  My iPhone 8 is working
perfectly fine.  I'd also go with the newer SE2020 because of the
faster processor.  My next iPhone in a couple of years, will probably
be the iPhone SE2020.  I like the thought of having another iPhone
with a home button and touch ID, and not that face ID crap.

On 8/3/20, Mich Verrier  wrote:

Hi last year when I upgraded my phone I whent for a I phone 8. I whent from
a I phone 6s to a 8 and so I would recommend that unless you want the I
phone se since it is newer and does have touch id just like the I phone 8
does but that is a older moddle. Hth. From Mich.

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Sent: August 3, 2020 2:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPhone 8, worth it now?

Hi all,

My mother is thinking of having my grandma give me Amazon gift cards towards
an iPhone 8 for my birthday next month, as well as helping to fund it
herself.

Does anyone still use one? I cannot afford one of the phones with Face ID,
and could hardly get my old iPhone X to recognize my face half the time,
hence why I gave it back to T-Mobile about a year and a half ago,  or maybe
it was two years… lol.

But anyway, between the iPhone SE 2, and the iPhone 8, which one would you
guys recommend? As I said, I am looking for something with Touch ID. Not
just cause of not getting it to unlock hardly. That is part of it, but the
other reason, is I have Cerebral Palsy in my whole right side and so having
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Re: iPhone 8, worth it now?

[Joshua Hendrickson]

I also have an iPhone 8.  I don't understand this talk of poor battery
life and poor speakers in the iPhone 8.  My iPhone 8 is working
perfectly fine.  I'd also go with the newer SE2020 because of the
faster processor.  My next iPhone in a couple of years, will probably
be the iPhone SE2020.  I like the thought of having another iPhone
with a home button and touch ID, and not that face ID crap.

On 8/3/20, Mich Verrier  wrote:
> Hi last year when I upgraded my phone I whent for a I phone 8. I whent from
> a I phone 6s to a 8 and so I would recommend that unless you want the I
> phone se since it is newer and does have touch id just like the I phone 8
> does but that is a older moddle. Hth. From Mich.
>
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> Portia Scott
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: iPhone 8, worth it now?
>
> Hi all,
>
> My mother is thinking of having my grandma give me Amazon gift cards towards
> an iPhone 8 for my birthday next month, as well as helping to fund it
> herself.
>
> Does anyone still use one? I cannot afford one of the phones with Face ID,
> and could hardly get my old iPhone X to recognize my face half the time,
> hence why I gave it back to T-Mobile about a year and a half ago,  or maybe
> it was two years… lol.
>
> But anyway, between the iPhone SE 2, and the iPhone 8, which one would you
> guys recommend? As I said, I am looking for something with Touch ID. Not
> just cause of not getting it to unlock hardly. That is part of it, but the
> other reason, is I have Cerebral Palsy in my whole right side and so having
> something with Touch ID would be easier for me.
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RE: iPhone 8, worth it now?

[Mich Verrier]

Hi last year when I upgraded my phone I whent for a I phone 8. I whent from a I 
phone 6s to a 8 and so I would recommend that unless you want the I phone se 
since it is newer and does have touch id just like the I phone 8 does but that 
is a older moddle. Hth. From Mich.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Portia 
Scott
Sent: August 3, 2020 2:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPhone 8, worth it now?

Hi all,

My mother is thinking of having my grandma give me Amazon gift cards towards an 
iPhone 8 for my birthday next month, as well as helping to fund it herself.

Does anyone still use one? I cannot afford one of the phones with Face ID, and 
could hardly get my old iPhone X to recognize my face half the time, hence why 
I gave it back to T-Mobile about a year and a half ago,  or maybe it was two 
years… lol.

But anyway, between the iPhone SE 2, and the iPhone 8, which one would you guys 
recommend? As I said, I am looking for something with Touch ID. Not just cause 
of not getting it to unlock hardly. That is part of it, but the other reason, 
is I have Cerebral Palsy in my whole right side and so having something with 
Touch ID would be easier for me.

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Re: iPhone 8, worth it now?

[Gordon]

Get the SE2. The 8 had multiple issues with batteries and speakers. It's 
kind of hit and miss which one you would get, so go for the SE 2. It's 
cheaper and newer and has the newer updated processor and cameras.


On 8/3/2020 1:18 AM, Portia Scott wrote:

Hi all,

My mother is thinking of having my grandma give me Amazon gift cards towards an 
iPhone 8 for my birthday next month, as well as helping to fund it herself.

Does anyone still use one? I cannot afford one of the phones with Face ID, and 
could hardly get my old iPhone X to recognize my face half the time, hence why 
I gave it back to T-Mobile about a year and a half ago,  or maybe it was two 
years… lol.

But anyway, between the iPhone SE 2, and the iPhone 8, which one would you guys 
recommend? As I said, I am looking for something with Touch ID. Not just cause 
of not getting it to unlock hardly. That is part of it, but the other reason, 
is I have Cerebral Palsy in my whole right side and so having something with 
Touch ID would be easier for me.



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iPhone 8, worth it now?

[Portia Scott]

Hi all,

My mother is thinking of having my grandma give me Amazon gift cards towards an 
iPhone 8 for my birthday next month, as well as helping to fund it herself.

Does anyone still use one? I cannot afford one of the phones with Face ID, and 
could hardly get my old iPhone X to recognize my face half the time, hence why 
I gave it back to T-Mobile about a year and a half ago,  or maybe it was two 
years… lol.

But anyway, between the iPhone SE 2, and the iPhone 8, which one would you guys 
recommend? As I said, I am looking for something with Touch ID. Not just cause 
of not getting it to unlock hardly. That is part of it, but the other reason, 
is I have Cerebral Palsy in my whole right side and so having something with 
Touch ID would be easier for me.

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