RE: Facebook Messenger app voice messages

[Sieghard Weitzel]

For now a work-around would be to use a headset since I assume if you plug in a 
headset or use a Bluetooth headset that they would play there? Sorry, don't 
have any voice messages in Facebook to test it with.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wendy Lin
Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 8:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Facebook Messenger app voice messages

Hi group,
I don’t know if this is only a glitch for iPhone users so thought I’d try 
asking here. It’s been nearly 3 weeks now since Facebook messenger app has been 
causing me problems when listening to voice messages; either they are voice 
messages I receive or voice messages I send out, it seems to be staying on 
speaker phone even when I put my phone to my ear to try to get them playing on 
ear piece mode. I know it has nothing to do with my device because I can listen 
to WhatsApp voice messages fine when putting the phone to my ear. I’ve even 
tried rebooting my phone, uninstalling and reinstalling the Facebook messenger 
app, it still didn’t fix the glitch. It’s been a few updates since then and the 
glitch is still there. I’ve even wrote a review in the App Store and tried 
reporting the bug to them on Twitter. No response what soever. I also know at 
least one or two blind users who are dealing with the same issue when listening 
to voice messages on Messenger.

Wendy

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Facebook Messenger app voice messages

[Wendy Lin]

Hi group,
I don’t know if this is only a glitch for iPhone users so thought I’d try 
asking here. It’s been nearly 3 weeks now since Facebook messenger app has been 
causing me problems when listening to voice messages; either they are voice 
messages I receive or voice messages I send out, it seems to be staying on 
speaker phone even when I put my phone to my ear to try to get them playing on 
ear piece mode. I know it has nothing to do with my device because I can listen 
to WhatsApp voice messages fine when putting the phone to my ear. I’ve even 
tried rebooting my phone, uninstalling and reinstalling the Facebook messenger 
app, it still didn’t fix the glitch. It’s been a few updates since then and the 
glitch is still there. I’ve even wrote a review in the App Store and tried 
reporting the bug to them on Twitter. No response what soever. I also know at 
least one or two blind users who are dealing with the same issue when listening 
to voice messages on Messenger.

Wendy

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RE: Unacceptable Behavior in Group MSM Messaging

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I just tried it without using the Add Contacts button and it worked for me just 
the same picking people from the results which showed up.
I first typed part of a name and then when I located the person I double tapped 
the name and it was inserted as the first recipient.
I then typed the next name, in this case "Alex" and since I have 3 or 4 people 
in my contacts once again I touched the screen on the upper half of the phone 
and then simply moved my finger (you can also flick right or left) until I 
found the person and again double tapped, now I had two recipients.
I repeated with a third in the same way, then I was able to flick right to the 
edit field where I could type my message.
Sorry, but I'm not sure what other way there would be to start a group message 
except maybe for asking SIRI to send a message and to then name all the people 
you want to send it to.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Bill 
Gallik
Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 3:47 PM
To: viPhone  
Subject: Re: Unacceptable Behavior in Group MSM Messaging

I appreciate your reply, but your procedure is not the one I typically use.  I 
should have noted that if I literally add additional recipients in the “To” 
field via the keyboard the previously noted issue arises.  The point of my 
complaint is that I’d prefer not to open my Contacts at all.  It used to work 
this way just fine, but no more.


* * * * * * * * * * * *
- Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
- "You only live once, but if you do it right, once is enough."
- Mae West


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RE: Message found under spotlight but now?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You first have to locate Messages on one of your home screens and then move it 
back to where you want. I just the other day posted very precise instructions 
on how to move apps, maybe you can check the archives or somebody can do it for 
you; it's been too long of a day for me to do it tonight. Moving apps really is 
super easy.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Duane 
Steele
Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 4:10 PM
To: IPhone List 
Subject: Message found under spotlight but now?

I found messages when I clicked up to spotlight but now I can't figure out how 
to return them to the home screen. Wow! what a mess!


Peace & Blessings,
Pastor Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194

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Re: Suddenly can't find my text messages

[Duane Steele]

Thanks for the help. But how did Messages disappear from my home screen in the 
first place? Earlier today, they were right where they had been, and then this 
evening, they were gone, and appeared in the spotlight screen. How would this 
have happened?

> On Aug 2, 2021, at 8:51 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> One thing you could do is go into the Apps Library and copy it from their on 
> to your home page. To get to the Apps Library, flick left with three fingers 
> until you get to your last home page and then flick left with three fingers 
> one more time to get into the Apps Library. What I would do next is touch the 
> screen in the middle to put focus on an item in your Apps Library and then 
> flick up with three fingers to alphabetize all of your apps. Now you can 
> easily find the Messages app and use the normal gestures to move the Messages 
> app anywhere you want on your home pages.
> 
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> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Duane 
> Steele
> Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 6:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Suddenly can't find my text messages
> 
> Thank you, Jennie. I found it as you said I would. But how do I return the 
> Messages folder to the home screen where it was, and how in the world did I 
> lose it in the first place. LOL Thanks also for remembering that I sometimes 
> use my Braille display.
> 
> 
>> On Aug 2, 2021, at 7:18 PM, Jennie Facer  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Duane,
>> 
>> I know you use a Braille display, so what I would try is to open the 
>> spotlight with dots 3456-chord. Now, type in messages. Now, go down to apps 
>> and it should be the first one that pops up. I hope this helps.
>> 
>> Jenn 
>> 
>> Jenn and Kumi
>> 
 On Aug 2, 2021, at 4:44 PM, Duane Steele  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Something weird has haspened. I suddenly can't find the folder containing 
>>> my text messages. The way my phone was set up is a folder called clocks, 
>>> then messages, then contacts, etc. Suddenly, the messages are gone. I have 
>>> no idea how this happened or where they went. Any ideas? Thanks
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Peace & Blessings,
>>> Pastor Duane L. Steele
>>> Phone (276) 730-5194
>>> 
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RE: Having Proof of COVID Vaccination on Your Phone

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yeah I’m just looking at this with a couple of medical staff,

I’ve been given a bit of cardboard,
The size of a business card that has the vaccination information on it,

That is seemingly our documentation for having been vaccinated

How long a bit of card lasts is going to be interesting,
Not even sure where to keep it.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, 3 August 2021 5:59 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Having Proof of COVID Vaccination on Your Phone

And once again since the list is international, this of course only works if 
you have a card. Here in British Columbia you got a few papers both for the 
first and second shot which state that you had the shot, which vaccine you got 
and whether you had it in your right or left arm. Apart from that there is the 
digital certificate available via the Health Gateway, but no actual card has 
been issued and while there is a Federal component of the Canadian health 
system, it's primarily a provincial thing so I assume maybe some provinces have 
given out a card and others have not.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 9:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Having Proof of COVID Vaccination on Your Phone

Since this list has international subscribers, it should be noted that the NHS 
app referenced is only applicable in parts of the UK. If those in the US or 
other places without a government-based app for tracking their vaccination want 
to do so on their iDevices, I suggest googling the subject and reading one of 
the several articles that have been posted on the topic.

As others have mentioned, taking a photo of your vaccination card (both sides) 
is one option. I chose to scan both sides of my card on my flatbed scanner and 
saved the resulting file as a PDF image file. Since these cards usually have 
handwriting on them, running OCR on them doesn’t work great and a saved image 
file will be more easily read by a sighted individual wanting to check your 
vaccination status.

Alan Lemly

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of kitty 
hevener
Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 10:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Having Proof of COVID Vaccination on Your Phone

At the time I had vaccine, I was given a card showing all the gory details.  I 
had someone take a pic of it.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 2:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Having Proof of COVID Vaccination on Your Phone

I have heard folks talk about having proof of their COVID vaccination on their 
phone.  How is this done?

Andy

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RE: Suddenly can't find my text messages

[Christopher Chaltain]

One thing you could do is go into the Apps Library and copy it from their on to 
your home page. To get to the Apps Library, flick left with three fingers until 
you get to your last home page and then flick left with three fingers one more 
time to get into the Apps Library. What I would do next is touch the screen in 
the middle to put focus on an item in your Apps Library and then flick up with 
three fingers to alphabetize all of your apps. Now you can easily find the 
Messages app and use the normal gestures to move the Messages app anywhere you 
want on your home pages.

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Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Duane 
Steele
Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 6:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Suddenly can't find my text messages

Thank you, Jennie. I found it as you said I would. But how do I return the 
Messages folder to the home screen where it was, and how in the world did I 
lose it in the first place. LOL Thanks also for remembering that I sometimes 
use my Braille display.


> On Aug 2, 2021, at 7:18 PM, Jennie Facer  wrote:
> 
> Hi Duane,
> 
> I know you use a Braille display, so what I would try is to open the 
> spotlight with dots 3456-chord. Now, type in messages. Now, go down to apps 
> and it should be the first one that pops up. I hope this helps.
> 
> Jenn 
> 
> Jenn and Kumi
> 
>> On Aug 2, 2021, at 4:44 PM, Duane Steele  wrote:
>> 
>> Something weird has haspened. I suddenly can't find the folder containing 
>> my text messages. The way my phone was set up is a folder called clocks, 
>> then messages, then contacts, etc. Suddenly, the messages are gone. I have 
>> no idea how this happened or where they went. Any ideas? Thanks
>> 
>> 
>> Peace & Blessings,
>> Pastor Duane L. Steele
>> Phone (276) 730-5194
>> 
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Re: Suddenly can't find my text messages

[Duane Steele]

Thank you, Jennie. I found it as you said I would. But how do I return the 
Messages folder to the home screen where it was, and how in the world did I 
lose it in the first place. LOL Thanks also for remembering that I sometimes 
use my Braille display.


> On Aug 2, 2021, at 7:18 PM, Jennie Facer  wrote:
> 
> Hi Duane,
> 
> I know you use a Braille display, so what I would try is to open the 
> spotlight with dots 3456-chord. Now, type in messages. Now, go down to apps 
> and it should be the first one that pops up. I hope this helps.
> 
> Jenn 
> 
> Jenn and Kumi
> 
>> On Aug 2, 2021, at 4:44 PM, Duane Steele  wrote:
>> 
>> Something weird has haspened. I suddenly can't find the folder containing 
>> my text messages. The way my phone was set up is a folder called clocks, 
>> then messages, then contacts, etc. Suddenly, the messages are gone. I have 
>> no idea how this happened or where they went. Any ideas? Thanks
>> 
>> 
>> Peace & Blessings,
>> Pastor Duane L. Steele
>> Phone (276) 730-5194
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Message found under spotlight but now?

[Duane Steele]

I found messages when I clicked up to spotlight but now I can't figure out how 
to return them to the home screen. Wow! what a mess!


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Re: Suddenly can't find my text messages

[Jennie Facer]

Hi Duane,

I know you use a Braille display, so what I would try is to open the spotlight 
with dots 3456-chord. Now, type in messages. Now, go down to apps and it should 
be the first one that pops up. I hope this helps.

Jenn 

Jenn and Kumi

> On Aug 2, 2021, at 4:44 PM, Duane Steele  wrote:
> 
> Something weird has haspened. I suddenly can't find the folder containing my 
> text messages. The way my phone was set up is a folder called clocks, then 
> messages, then contacts, etc. Suddenly, the messages are gone. I have no idea 
> how this happened or where they went. Any ideas? Thanks
> 
> 
> Peace & Blessings,
> Pastor Duane L. Steele
> Phone (276) 730-5194
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Re: Unacceptable Behavior in Group MSM Messaging

[Bill Gallik]

I appreciate your reply, but your procedure is not the one I typically use.  I 
should have noted that if I literally add additional recipients in the “To” 
field via the keyboard the previously noted issue arises.  The point of my 
complaint is that I’d prefer not to open my Contacts at all.  It used to work 
this way just fine, but no more.


* * * * * * * * * * * *
- Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
- "You only live once, but if you do it right, once is enough."
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Suddenly can't find my text messages

[Duane Steele]

Something weird has haspened. I suddenly can't find the folder containing my 
text messages. The way my phone was set up is a folder called clocks, then 
messages, then contacts, etc. Suddenly, the messages are gone. I have no idea 
how this happened or where they went. Any ideas? Thanks


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Phone (276) 730-5194

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RE: an inaccessible app

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Why did you give them an earful? First of all, I just did a quick Google search 
and it is indeed available on the Apple TV, second, if I were a company or 
developer and I got an email with nothing but a complaint without even a bit of 
constructive criticism or a question I would probably delete it.

Here is information straight from the Frndly website:

How do I add the Frndly TV App on my Apple TV?
Modified on: Thu, 15 Oct, 2020 at 9:14 AM
-
The Frndly TV App is available for download in the Apple TV App Store (Apple TV 
Gen 4 and newer).
To download and install:
1. Press the “Home” button to access your Apple TV home page
2. Open the App Store on your Apple TV
3. In the menu bar, select the Search button
4. Enter "Frndly TV"
5. Swipe down to select the Frndly TV app
6. Follow on-screen prompts
7. Sign in with your email address and password


Best regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Patti 
Johnson
Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 12:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: an inaccessible app

Has anybody tried FRNDLY TV or know if it's on apple tv?  It is on Fire tv and 
very inaccessible, so I wrote to them and gave them an earful.

If anyone is using it ok on Apple tv, let me know and I'll try there.


Patti

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RE: Editing Home Screen

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Yes, basically similar to the Voiceover practice area in Voiceover settings 
except that as Malcolm said, it will close help again the first time you get it 
right, in the Voiceover practice area you can try it in different way to figure 
out which one suits you the best. And you can continue to practice until you 
are satisfied and then exit manually.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Malcolm 
Parfitt
Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 11:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Editing Home Screen

One thing that may prove useful to add to Sieghard‘s most helpful description 
is to use Voiceover Help to familiarise yourself with the jesters.

Do a double four-finger tap to start Voiceover PHelp.  Now try the two-finger 
Scrub, when you’ve got it right you will exit Voiceover Help.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 2 Aug 2021, at 19:41, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Here is what a Z-shape looks like:
> 
> Put your iPhone in front of you in the normal way, i.e. the charging port on 
> the bottom, the volume buttons on the top left and the side/power button on 
> the top right.
> Now run your finger along the short top edge of your phone Starting on 
> the left near the volume buttons and going all the way to the right 
> near the power/side button Now move your finger diagonally from the 
> top right corner to the bottom left corner Lastly follow the bottom 
> edge from the bottom left corner to the bottom right corner You have 
> just made the shape of an upper case letter Z
> 
> Another way:
> Take 3 pens, pencils or tooth picks
> Put 2 of them horizontally on a table one on top and one further down 
> so they are parallel, maybe tape them down with a piece of scotch tape 
> Take the third, feel where the right edge is of the top pencil or 
> tooth pick and place the third one so it goes diagonally from the top 
> right to the bottom left
> 
> There are many ways to explain it, but just as most blind people probably 
> know what a triangle or ectangle looks like they can learn what a letter Z 
> looks like.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Carolyn
> Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 11:21 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Editing Home Screen
> 
> He does not know what a print Z looks like, which is why I said to flick 
> right, then left, then right. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of LeDon Becker
> Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 10:40 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Editing Home Screen
> 
> Use a two finger z motion on the screen. This is the scrub jester. Make the  
> z figure with quick short strokes. It may take a little practice.
> 
> Get Outlook for iOS  
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of 
> Star Gazer 
> Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 7:40:33 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: Editing Home Screen
> 
> 
>   To piggy back off of 
> this, how do you do the scrub gesture? I’m totally blind and all I can find 
> is to make a z which doesn’t help since the z they want is in print..
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from Mail   for 
> Windows 10
> 
> 
> 
> From: Dan Yates 
> Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2021 10:57 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: Editing Home Screen
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks so much to all of you for your help with this! Took some time 
> to figure it out but with your help was able to move icons back to 
> where they needed to be, as well as make some more changes! Again, 
> many thanks
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>On Jul 31, 2021, at 11:55 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
>
> 
>You are trying it the old way with dragging the app, much easier to flick 
> down to Edit mode, double tap and Voiceover says "Started Editing".
> 
>Now find the app you want to move, let's assume it's the Camera app, and 
> flick down again until you hear "Drag Camera", now double tap.
> 
>You can now take your finger off the screen and go to wherever you want to 
> put the app, if you are in a folder on the second home screen and you want to 
> put the app on the first home screen, exit the folder by doing the scrub 
> gesture, then go to your first home page and go to where you want the app.
> 
>Let's assume you have the following apps in your top row:
> 
>App Store, Calculator, Settings and Clock
> 
>Let's further assume you want to put the Camera app in third place, where 
> Settings now sits, this means Settings would get pushed to the right and the 
> Clock app which is the last in the row would get pushed to the right as well 
> which means it will end up in the second row on the very left.
> 
>So, you put focus on 

Re: The scrub gesture [was "RE: Editing Home Screen"]

[Kait Forbes]

To all with input,  thanks for this.
Kait

On Mon, Aug 2, 2021 at 1:15 PM Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

> And once you practice it you really don't have to start near the top left
> or even go left to right and down.
>
> As long as you do 3 distinct movements with 2 fingers it will be
> recognized as a scrub, this can be left to right, right to left and down
> and back to the right or it can be straight across left to right and back
> to the left, right to left and back to the right or even start near the top
> or in the middle and go straight down, then back up and down again or start
> a bit lower and go up, then down and back  up again.
>
> I would recommend to go to Voiceover Settings > Voiceover Practice and try
> it there because Voiceover will then tell you if you are doing it right.
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *Christopher Chaltain
> *Sent:* Monday, August 2, 2021 6:02 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* The scrub gesture [was "RE: Editing Home Screen"]
>
>
>
> To perform the scrub gesture, pretend like you’re wiping off a smudge on
> your iPhone screen. Place two fingers in the upper left hand corner of the
> screen, swipe them to the right, then the left and down and finally back to
> the right.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>
> Chaltain at Outlook
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *Star Gazer
> *Sent:* Monday, August 2, 2021 7:41 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: Editing Home Screen
>
>
>
>To piggy back off
> of this, how do you do the scrub gesture? I’m totally blind and all I can
> find is to make a z which doesn’t help since the z they want is in print..
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail
> 
> for Windows 10
>
>
>
> *From: *Dan Yates 
> *Sent: *Saturday, July 31, 2021 10:57 PM
> *To: *viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject: *Re: Editing Home Screen
>
>
>
> Thanks so much to all of you for your help with this! Took some time to
> figure it out but with your help was able to move icons back to where they
> needed to be, as well as make some more changes! Again, many thanks
>
> Dan
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
> On Jul 31, 2021, at 11:55 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>
> 
>
> You are trying it the old way with dragging the app, much easier to flick
> down to Edit mode, double tap and Voiceover says "Started Editing".
>
> Now find the app you want to move, let's assume it's the Camera app, and
> flick down again until you hear "Drag Camera", now double tap.
>
> You can now take your finger off the screen and go to wherever you want to
> put the app, if you are in a folder on the second home screen and you want
> to put the app on the first home screen, exit the folder by doing the scrub
> gesture, then go to your first home page and go to where you want the app.
>
> Let's assume you have the following apps in your top row:
>
> App Store, Calculator, Settings and Clock
>
> Let's further assume you want to put the Camera app in third place, where
> Settings now sits, this means Settings would get pushed to the right and
> the Clock app which is the last in the row would get pushed to the right as
> well which means it will end up in the second row on the very left.
>
> So, you put focus on Settings, then flick down until you hear "Drop Camera
> before Settings" then you double tap and the Camera app is placed before
> Settings which means Settings is pushed over.
>
> If you selected to "Drop Camera after Settings" the Camera app would go to
> the right of Settings where before you had the Clock app, this way Settings
> would stay in third place, Camera would now be in fourth place which is on
> the very right of row 1 and the Clock app still would end up in row 2 on
> the very left.
>
> Think of "Drop before" that the app goes to the left of the app you are on
> which means in place of the app and drop after means it goes to the right
> of the app you are on and the next app gets pushed over.
>
> There will also be an option to create a folder with the app you are on,
> for example, if you are dragging the Camera app and you go to the Photos
> app you could create a folder with these two apps which iOS would give a
> default name, this name can be changed later and if you are dragging an app
> and put focus on an existing folder then in addition to drop before and
> drop after you will have an option to drop the app into the folder.
>
> Lastly, after you go to your first app and select to drag the app you can
> go to a second and third app or even more and on each of them you can flick
> down to 

RE: Having Proof of COVID Vaccination on Your Phone

[James Homuth]

Ontario.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: August 2, 2021 1:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Having Proof of COVID Vaccination on Your Phone

 

Hi James, which province are you in?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
James Homuth
Sent: Sunday, August 1, 2021 11:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Having Proof of COVID Vaccination on Your Phone

 

My provincial government emailed it to me.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Doug 
Sloan
Sent: August 2, 2021 2:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Having Proof of COVID Vaccination on Your Phone

 

Where did you get the proof from?

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Homuth
Sent: Monday, 2 August 2021 4:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Having Proof of COVID Vaccination on Your Phone

 

My proof is a PDF file, so I just store it locally.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: August 2, 2021 2:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Having Proof of COVID Vaccination on Your Phone

 

I have heard folks talk about having proof of their COVID vaccination on their 
phone.  How is this done?

 

Andy

 

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an inaccessible app

[Patti Johnson]

Has anybody tried FRNDLY TV or know if it's on apple tv?  It is on Fire 
tv and very inaccessible, so I wrote to them and gave them an earful.


If anyone is using it ok on Apple tv, let me know and I'll try there.


Patti

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Re: Editing Home Screen

[Malcolm Parfitt]

One thing that may prove useful to add to Sieghard‘s most helpful description 
is to use Voiceover Help to familiarise yourself with the jesters.

Do a double four-finger tap to start Voiceover PHelp.  Now try the two-finger 
Scrub, when you’ve got it right you will exit Voiceover Help.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 2 Aug 2021, at 19:41, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Here is what a Z-shape looks like:
> 
> Put your iPhone in front of you in the normal way, i.e. the charging port on 
> the bottom, the volume buttons on the top left and the side/power button on 
> the top right.
> Now run your finger along the short top edge of your phone Starting on the 
> left near the volume buttons and going all the way to the right near the 
> power/side button
> Now move your finger diagonally from the top right corner to the bottom left 
> corner
> Lastly follow the bottom edge from the bottom left corner to the bottom right 
> corner
> You have just made the shape of an upper case letter Z
> 
> Another way:
> Take 3 pens, pencils or tooth picks
> Put 2 of them horizontally on a table one on top and one further down so they 
> are parallel, maybe tape them down with a piece of scotch tape
> Take the third, feel where the right edge is of the top pencil or tooth pick 
> and place the third one so it goes diagonally from the top right to the 
> bottom left
> 
> There are many ways to explain it, but just as most blind people probably 
> know what a triangle or ectangle looks like they can learn what a letter Z 
> looks like.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
> Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 11:21 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Editing Home Screen
> 
> He does not know what a print Z looks like, which is why I said to flick 
> right, then left, then right. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> LeDon Becker
> Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 10:40 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Editing Home Screen
> 
> Use a two finger z motion on the screen. This is the scrub jester. Make the  
> z figure with quick short strokes. It may take a little practice.
> 
> Get Outlook for iOS  
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Star 
> Gazer 
> Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 7:40:33 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: Editing Home Screen 
> 
> 
>   To piggy back off of 
> this, how do you do the scrub gesture? I’m totally blind and all I can find 
> is to make a z which doesn’t help since the z they want is in print..
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from Mail   for Windows 
> 10
> 
> 
> 
> From: Dan Yates 
> Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2021 10:57 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: Editing Home Screen
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks so much to all of you for your help with this! Took some time to 
> figure it out but with your help was able to move icons back to where they 
> needed to be, as well as make some more changes! Again, many thanks
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>On Jul 31, 2021, at 11:55 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>You are trying it the old way with dragging the app, much easier to flick 
> down to Edit mode, double tap and Voiceover says "Started Editing".
> 
>Now find the app you want to move, let's assume it's the Camera app, and 
> flick down again until you hear "Drag Camera", now double tap.
> 
>You can now take your finger off the screen and go to wherever you want to 
> put the app, if you are in a folder on the second home screen and you want to 
> put the app on the first home screen, exit the folder by doing the scrub 
> gesture, then go to your first home page and go to where you want the app.
> 
>Let's assume you have the following apps in your top row:
> 
>App Store, Calculator, Settings and Clock
> 
>Let's further assume you want to put the Camera app in third place, where 
> Settings now sits, this means Settings would get pushed to the right and the 
> Clock app which is the last in the row would get pushed to the right as well 
> which means it will end up in the second row on the very left.
> 
>So, you put focus on Settings, then flick down until you hear "Drop Camera 
> before Settings" then you double tap and the Camera app is placed before 
> Settings which means Settings is pushed over. 
> 
>If you selected to "Drop Camera after Settings" the Camera app would go to 
> the right of Settings where before you had the Clock app, this way Settings 
> would stay in third place, Camera would now be in fourth place which is on 
> the very right of row 1 and the Clock app still would end up in row 2 on the 
> very left.
> 
>Think of "Drop before" that the app 

RE: The scrub gesture [was "RE: Editing Home Screen"]

[Star Gazer]

This is perfect!

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 1:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: The scrub gesture [was "RE: Editing Home Screen"]

And once you practice it you really don't have to start near the top left or 
even go left to right and down.
As long as you do 3 distinct movements with 2 fingers it will be recognized as 
a scrub, this can be left to right, right to left and down and back to the 
right or it can be straight across left to right and back to the left, right to 
left and back to the right or even start near the top or in the middle and go 
straight down, then back up and down again or start a bit lower and go up, then 
down and back  up again.
I would recommend to go to Voiceover Settings > Voiceover Practice and try it 
there because Voiceover will then tell you if you are doing it right.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 6:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: The scrub gesture [was "RE: Editing Home Screen"]

To perform the scrub gesture, pretend like you’re wiping off a smudge on your 
iPhone screen. Place two fingers in the upper left hand corner of the screen, 
swipe them to the right, then the left and down and finally back to the right.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 7:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Editing Home Screen

   To piggy back off of 
this, how do you do the scrub gesture? I’m totally blind and all I can find is 
to make a z which doesn’t help since the z they want is in print..


Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Dan Yates
Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2021 10:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Editing Home Screen

Thanks so much to all of you for your help with this! Took some time to figure 
it out but with your help was able to move icons back to where they needed to 
be, as well as make some more changes! Again, many thanks
Dan

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 31, 2021, at 11:55 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
 
You are trying it the old way with dragging the app, much easier to flick down 
to Edit mode, double tap and Voiceover says "Started Editing".
Now find the app you want to move, let's assume it's the Camera app, and flick 
down again until you hear "Drag Camera", now double tap.
You can now take your finger off the screen and go to wherever you want to put 
the app, if you are in a folder on the second home screen and you want to put 
the app on the first home screen, exit the folder by doing the scrub gesture, 
then go to your first home page and go to where you want the app.
Let's assume you have the following apps in your top row:
App Store, Calculator, Settings and Clock
Let's further assume you want to put the Camera app in third place, where 
Settings now sits, this means Settings would get pushed to the right and the 
Clock app which is the last in the row would get pushed to the right as well 
which means it will end up in the second row on the very left.
So, you put focus on Settings, then flick down until you hear "Drop Camera 
before Settings" then you double tap and the Camera app is placed before 
Settings which means Settings is pushed over. 
If you selected to "Drop Camera after Settings" the Camera app would go to the 
right of Settings where before you had the Clock app, this way Settings would 
stay in third place, Camera would now be in fourth place which is on the very 
right of row 1 and the Clock app still would end up in row 2 on the very left.
Think of "Drop before" that the app goes to the left of the app you are on 
which means in place of the app and drop after means it goes to the right of 
the app you are on and the next app gets pushed over.
There will also be an option to create a folder with the app you are on, for 
example, if you are dragging the Camera app and you go to the Photos app you 
could create a folder with these two apps which iOS would give a default name, 
this name can be changed later and if you are dragging an app and put focus on 
an existing folder then in addition to drop before and drop after you will have 
an option to drop the app into the folder.
Lastly, after you go to your first app and select to drag the app you can go to 
a second and third app or even more and on each of them you can flick down to 
where Voiceover says "Add to drag session" and double tap. Voiceover will say 
that you are now dragging 2 apps or 3 apps or however many you select. This is 
very useful if you already have a folder and want to add a number of apps to 
the same folder.
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
danneyya...@gmail.com
Sent: July 30, 2021 7:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Editing Home Screen
 
Hi everyone,
I have an iPhone 12 mini and have latest software installed.  Because of not 

RE: Editing Home Screen

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Here is what a Z-shape looks like:

Put your iPhone in front of you in the normal way, i.e. the charging port on 
the bottom, the volume buttons on the top left and the side/power button on the 
top right.
Now run your finger along the short top edge of your phone Starting on the left 
near the volume buttons and going all the way to the right near the power/side 
button
Now move your finger diagonally from the top right corner to the bottom left 
corner
Lastly follow the bottom edge from the bottom left corner to the bottom right 
corner
You have just made the shape of an upper case letter Z

Another way:
Take 3 pens, pencils or tooth picks
Put 2 of them horizontally on a table one on top and one further down so they 
are parallel, maybe tape them down with a piece of scotch tape
Take the third, feel where the right edge is of the top pencil or tooth pick 
and place the third one so it goes diagonally from the top right to the bottom 
left

There are many ways to explain it, but just as most blind people probably know 
what a triangle or ectangle looks like they can learn what a letter Z looks 
like.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 11:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Editing Home Screen

He does not know what a print Z looks like, which is why I said to flick right, 
then left, then right. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
LeDon Becker
Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 10:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Editing Home Screen

Use a two finger z motion on the screen. This is the scrub jester. Make the  z 
figure with quick short strokes. It may take a little practice.

Get Outlook for iOS  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Star 
Gazer 
Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 7:40:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Editing Home Screen 
 

   To piggy back off of 
this, how do you do the scrub gesture? I’m totally blind and all I can find is 
to make a z which doesn’t help since the z they want is in print..

 

 

Sent from Mail   for Windows 10

 

From: Dan Yates 
Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2021 10:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Editing Home Screen

 

Thanks so much to all of you for your help with this! Took some time to figure 
it out but with your help was able to move icons back to where they needed to 
be, as well as make some more changes! Again, many thanks

Dan

 

Sent from my iPhone





On Jul 31, 2021, at 11:55 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

 

You are trying it the old way with dragging the app, much easier to 
flick down to Edit mode, double tap and Voiceover says "Started Editing".

Now find the app you want to move, let's assume it's the Camera app, 
and flick down again until you hear "Drag Camera", now double tap.

You can now take your finger off the screen and go to wherever you want 
to put the app, if you are in a folder on the second home screen and you want 
to put the app on the first home screen, exit the folder by doing the scrub 
gesture, then go to your first home page and go to where you want the app.

Let's assume you have the following apps in your top row:

App Store, Calculator, Settings and Clock

Let's further assume you want to put the Camera app in third place, 
where Settings now sits, this means Settings would get pushed to the right and 
the Clock app which is the last in the row would get pushed to the right as 
well which means it will end up in the second row on the very left.

So, you put focus on Settings, then flick down until you hear "Drop 
Camera before Settings" then you double tap and the Camera app is placed before 
Settings which means Settings is pushed over. 

If you selected to "Drop Camera after Settings" the Camera app would go 
to the right of Settings where before you had the Clock app, this way Settings 
would stay in third place, Camera would now be in fourth place which is on the 
very right of row 1 and the Clock app still would end up in row 2 on the very 
left.

Think of "Drop before" that the app goes to the left of the app you are 
on which means in place of the app and drop after means it goes to the right of 
the app you are on and the next app gets pushed over.

There will also be an option to create a folder with the app you are 
on, for example, if you are dragging the Camera app and you go to the Photos 
app you could create a folder with these two apps which iOS would give a 
default name, this name can be changed later and if you are dragging an app and 
put focus on an existing folder then in addition to drop 

RE: Document scanning question

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I would dispute this, especially if you use an app like OneDrive where there is 
a document scan mode you get extremely good scans, but of course it depends on 
your ability as a blind person to take a good picture. I don't want to sound 
condescending, but it really takes "ability" and of course practice and best is 
practice with a sighted person watching until you have the feel for how high to 
hold the camera and so on.
The same applies to depositing cheques via the bank app, it took me a few tries 
with sighted help, but now I can typically do it perfectly all the time and 
with just one try for taking a picture of the front and back of the cheque. 
Maybe it's 20 years of woodworking, but I have an extremely good sense of 
distance, a very steady hand and a good sense of orientation as well which 
comes in handy with respect to holding the iPhone level. Last week I was 
joining two 10-foot cedar boards  together for making a raised garden/flower 
box. I have a tool called a Domino Joiner which cuts a square hole into the 
boards and once set up it references off the top of the board so they line up 
perfectly. You then stick a hardwood domino into the hole and it goes half way 
into the one board and half way into the other once again this is to line them 
up and give lateral stability for when you glue to the boards together. The 
tool does have some tabs where you can reference against the edge of the board 
when you start, but over the 10-foot length I wanted to put a domino every 2 
feet so we layed the boards out the way the would be glued and touching each 
other, then my wife made a pencil mark on each board in exactly the same spot. 
This mark then needs to get lined up with a line on the tool because if you 
don't cut the hole exactly in the same place on each board it will or course 
not fit and by exact I mean it has to be less than a sixteenth of an inch. 
After we marked the boards I joking told my wife that I would put the tool in 
the right spot on the line just by feel and while right in the middle of the 
10-foot board I was maybe an inch out, I often was less than half an inch away 
from the line. Still of course not good enough for the work, but it's just an 
example about how closely I can judge distance.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
llump...@austin.rr.com
Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 8:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Document scanning question

I don't think any of the IOS scanning programs do a satisfactory job of 
scanning documents. In my opinion, there is nothing better than a flat-bed 
scanner and some program for doing the ocr. Kurzweil 1000 and openbook are 
somewhat pricy but do an excellent job. Serotek (or whatever they call 
themselves now) sell docuscan for a couple hundred dollars and would, I think 
meet your needs. JAWS itself has convenient OCR which renders excellent results 
but doesn't export very well.
Handytech--who's name, I think, has changed--sells Iread for much less than 
either k1000 or openbook and would also meet your needs.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 9:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Document scanning question

If you have a computer with Openbook or Kurzwel, they have a mode for that.
ON the iPhone, I think KNFB Reader will tell you the orientation but the 
quality seems iffy these days.  You can get access to the basic KNFB Reader 
inside the free NFB Newsline app.

I am not sure which other iPhone scanning apps report orientation.




Richard
Software means never having to say you're finished

Web site: www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mária 
Orovcíková
Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 2:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Document scanning question

Hello list,
I have to scan some documents and send them via e-mail.
Please, is there a way to scan the documents without sighted help and make sure 
the scan is not upside down? Sometimes I need to scan something urgently and I 
don't have sighted person around all the time to check.
Thank you for your help in advance.
Maria

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RE: Editing Home Screen

[Carolyn]

He does not know what a print Z looks like, which is why I said to flick right, 
then left, then right. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
LeDon Becker
Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 10:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Editing Home Screen

Use a two finger z motion on the screen. This is the scrub jester. Make the  z 
figure with quick short strokes. It may take a little practice.

Get Outlook for iOS  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Star 
Gazer 
Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 7:40:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Editing Home Screen 
 

   To piggy back off of 
this, how do you do the scrub gesture? I’m totally blind and all I can find is 
to make a z which doesn’t help since the z they want is in print..

 

 

Sent from Mail   for Windows 10

 

From: Dan Yates 
Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2021 10:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Editing Home Screen

 

Thanks so much to all of you for your help with this! Took some time to figure 
it out but with your help was able to move icons back to where they needed to 
be, as well as make some more changes! Again, many thanks

Dan

 

Sent from my iPhone





On Jul 31, 2021, at 11:55 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

 

You are trying it the old way with dragging the app, much easier to 
flick down to Edit mode, double tap and Voiceover says "Started Editing".

Now find the app you want to move, let's assume it's the Camera app, 
and flick down again until you hear "Drag Camera", now double tap.

You can now take your finger off the screen and go to wherever you want 
to put the app, if you are in a folder on the second home screen and you want 
to put the app on the first home screen, exit the folder by doing the scrub 
gesture, then go to your first home page and go to where you want the app.

Let's assume you have the following apps in your top row:

App Store, Calculator, Settings and Clock

Let's further assume you want to put the Camera app in third place, 
where Settings now sits, this means Settings would get pushed to the right and 
the Clock app which is the last in the row would get pushed to the right as 
well which means it will end up in the second row on the very left.

So, you put focus on Settings, then flick down until you hear "Drop 
Camera before Settings" then you double tap and the Camera app is placed before 
Settings which means Settings is pushed over. 

If you selected to "Drop Camera after Settings" the Camera app would go 
to the right of Settings where before you had the Clock app, this way Settings 
would stay in third place, Camera would now be in fourth place which is on the 
very right of row 1 and the Clock app still would end up in row 2 on the very 
left.

Think of "Drop before" that the app goes to the left of the app you are 
on which means in place of the app and drop after means it goes to the right of 
the app you are on and the next app gets pushed over.

There will also be an option to create a folder with the app you are 
on, for example, if you are dragging the Camera app and you go to the Photos 
app you could create a folder with these two apps which iOS would give a 
default name, this name can be changed later and if you are dragging an app and 
put focus on an existing folder then in addition to drop before and drop after 
you will have an option to drop the app into the folder.

Lastly, after you go to your first app and select to drag the app you 
can go to a second and third app or even more and on each of them you can flick 
down to where Voiceover says "Add to drag session" and double tap. Voiceover 
will say that you are now dragging 2 apps or 3 apps or however many you select. 
This is very useful if you already have a folder and want to add a number of 
apps to the same folder.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
danneyya...@gmail.com
Sent: July 30, 2021 7:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Editing Home Screen

 

Hi everyone,

I have an iPhone 12 mini and have latest software installed.  Because 
of not having my phone locked when pushing it into pocket, I evidently 
triggered edit mode and several of my app icons, that normally are on my first 
page of home screen, are now shifted to other pages, some even into folders.

I’ve tried doing edit mode, holding my finger on icon that I’m wanting 
to shift back and sliding, but it only goes to boundary of page and I’m unable 
to figure out how to move it further.

Can anyone share wisdom on how to go about moving the 

RE: Editing Home Screen

[Carolyn]

To scrub, you put two fingers on the screen like you are going to tap, then 
flick a bit to the right, to the left and back to the right. I do it all the 
time. It is so convenient, when I want to get out of something right now 
instead of having to flick back to the Back Button. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Star Gazer
Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 8:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Editing Home Screen

   To piggy back off of 
this, how do you do the scrub gesture? I’m totally blind and all I can find is 
to make a z which doesn’t help since the z they want is in print..

 

 

Sent from Mail   for Windows 10

 

From: Dan Yates  
Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2021 10:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Editing Home Screen

 

Thanks so much to all of you for your help with this! Took some time to figure 
it out but with your help was able to move icons back to where they needed to 
be, as well as make some more changes! Again, many thanks

Dan

 

Sent from my iPhone





On Jul 31, 2021, at 11:55 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

 

You are trying it the old way with dragging the app, much easier to 
flick down to Edit mode, double tap and Voiceover says "Started Editing".

Now find the app you want to move, let's assume it's the Camera app, 
and flick down again until you hear "Drag Camera", now double tap.

You can now take your finger off the screen and go to wherever you want 
to put the app, if you are in a folder on the second home screen and you want 
to put the app on the first home screen, exit the folder by doing the scrub 
gesture, then go to your first home page and go to where you want the app.

Let's assume you have the following apps in your top row:

App Store, Calculator, Settings and Clock

Let's further assume you want to put the Camera app in third place, 
where Settings now sits, this means Settings would get pushed to the right and 
the Clock app which is the last in the row would get pushed to the right as 
well which means it will end up in the second row on the very left.

So, you put focus on Settings, then flick down until you hear "Drop 
Camera before Settings" then you double tap and the Camera app is placed before 
Settings which means Settings is pushed over. 

If you selected to "Drop Camera after Settings" the Camera app would go 
to the right of Settings where before you had the Clock app, this way Settings 
would stay in third place, Camera would now be in fourth place which is on the 
very right of row 1 and the Clock app still would end up in row 2 on the very 
left.

Think of "Drop before" that the app goes to the left of the app you are 
on which means in place of the app and drop after means it goes to the right of 
the app you are on and the next app gets pushed over.

There will also be an option to create a folder with the app you are 
on, for example, if you are dragging the Camera app and you go to the Photos 
app you could create a folder with these two apps which iOS would give a 
default name, this name can be changed later and if you are dragging an app and 
put focus on an existing folder then in addition to drop before and drop after 
you will have an option to drop the app into the folder.

Lastly, after you go to your first app and select to drag the app you 
can go to a second and third app or even more and on each of them you can flick 
down to where Voiceover says "Add to drag session" and double tap. Voiceover 
will say that you are now dragging 2 apps or 3 apps or however many you select. 
This is very useful if you already have a folder and want to add a number of 
apps to the same folder.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
danneyya...@gmail.com
Sent: July 30, 2021 7:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Editing Home Screen

 

Hi everyone,

I have an iPhone 12 mini and have latest software installed.  Because 
of not having my phone locked when pushing it into pocket, I evidently 
triggered edit mode and several of my app icons, that normally are on my first 
page of home screen, are now shifted to other pages, some even into folders.

I’ve tried doing edit mode, holding my finger on icon that I’m wanting 
to shift back and sliding, but it only goes to boundary of page and I’m unable 
to figure out how to move it further.

Can anyone share wisdom on how to go about moving the icon to another 
page of the home screen?

Thanks,

Dan

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RE: Document scanning question

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Couldn't you use the Be My Eyes app first to get a sighted helper and make sure 
you have all the documents properly oriented, then scan/photograph them.
You could also use Aira, if it is only a couple of pages the free 5 minute call 
will probably be enough and they will take the picture for you and tell you how 
to hold your phone and then you can access it in the app or they can I think 
email it to you.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mária 
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Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 2:08 AM
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Subject: Document scanning question

Hello list,
I have to scan some documents and send them via e-mail.
Please, is there a way to scan the documents without sighted help and make sure 
the scan is not upside down? Sometimes I need to scan something urgently and I 
don't have sighted person around all the time to check.
Thank you for your help in advance.
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RE: Having Proof of COVID Vaccination on Your Phone

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I only just registered my BC Services card for signing in, but since today is a 
civic holiday it won't be approved until tomorrow. Once it is and I can log in 
I'll take a look, but I assume it's under Immunizations.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fazil
Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 11:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Having Proof of COVID Vaccination on Your Phone

Dear Mr. Weitzel.
I went to the provincial Health Gateway website and  I have installed 
BC-Services Card app. I can access my health record using this app, how can I 
access the digital certificate for my Covit Vaxination?
Thanks!

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2021 10:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Having Proof of COVID Vaccination on Your Phone

It probably depends on where you are and if that is offered, here in British 
Columbia, Canada we can go to the provincial Health Gateway website where you 
have to either register or sign in with the BC Services card app on your phone 
(our health card) and then you can get a digital certificate, you can also add 
notes to your health record, check your COVID-19 test results if you had to 
take a test, prescription medications and they are just working on making lab 
test results available..

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: Sunday, August 1, 2021 11:11 PM
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Subject: Having Proof of COVID Vaccination on Your Phone

I have heard folks talk about having proof of their COVID vaccination on their 
phone.  How is this done?

Andy

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RE: Editing Home Screen

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Not sure if you saw my previous message, but all you really have to do is make 
a 3-part gesture with 2 fingers on the screen.
You have to try it and decide for yourself which feels more natural to you, 
going from left to right and back, from right to left and back, from top to 
bottom and back or from bottom to top and back.
The Voiceover practice area would be the best place to try it.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 5:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Editing Home Screen

   To piggy back off of 
this, how do you do the scrub gesture? I’m totally blind and all I can find is 
to make a z which doesn’t help since the z they want is in print..


Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Dan Yates
Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2021 10:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Editing Home Screen

Thanks so much to all of you for your help with this! Took some time to figure 
it out but with your help was able to move icons back to where they needed to 
be, as well as make some more changes! Again, many thanks
Dan

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 31, 2021, at 11:55 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

You are trying it the old way with dragging the app, much easier to flick down 
to Edit mode, double tap and Voiceover says "Started Editing".
Now find the app you want to move, let's assume it's the Camera app, and flick 
down again until you hear "Drag Camera", now double tap.
You can now take your finger off the screen and go to wherever you want to put 
the app, if you are in a folder on the second home screen and you want to put 
the app on the first home screen, exit the folder by doing the scrub gesture, 
then go to your first home page and go to where you want the app.
Let's assume you have the following apps in your top row:
App Store, Calculator, Settings and Clock
Let's further assume you want to put the Camera app in third place, where 
Settings now sits, this means Settings would get pushed to the right and the 
Clock app which is the last in the row would get pushed to the right as well 
which means it will end up in the second row on the very left.
So, you put focus on Settings, then flick down until you hear "Drop Camera 
before Settings" then you double tap and the Camera app is placed before 
Settings which means Settings is pushed over.
If you selected to "Drop Camera after Settings" the Camera app would go to the 
right of Settings where before you had the Clock app, this way Settings would 
stay in third place, Camera would now be in fourth place which is on the very 
right of row 1 and the Clock app still would end up in row 2 on the very left.
Think of "Drop before" that the app goes to the left of the app you are on 
which means in place of the app and drop after means it goes to the right of 
the app you are on and the next app gets pushed over.
There will also be an option to create a folder with the app you are on, for 
example, if you are dragging the Camera app and you go to the Photos app you 
could create a folder with these two apps which iOS would give a default name, 
this name can be changed later and if you are dragging an app and put focus on 
an existing folder then in addition to drop before and drop after you will have 
an option to drop the app into the folder.
Lastly, after you go to your first app and select to drag the app you can go to 
a second and third app or even more and on each of them you can flick down to 
where Voiceover says "Add to drag session" and double tap. Voiceover will say 
that you are now dragging 2 apps or 3 apps or however many you select. This is 
very useful if you already have a folder and want to add a number of apps to 
the same folder.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
danneyya...@gmail.com
Sent: July 30, 2021 7:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Editing Home Screen

Hi everyone,
I have an iPhone 12 mini and have latest software installed.  Because of not 
having my phone locked when pushing it into pocket, I evidently triggered edit 
mode and several of my app icons, that normally are on my first page of home 
screen, are now shifted to other pages, some even into folders.
I’ve tried doing edit mode, holding my finger on icon that I’m wanting to shift 
back and sliding, but it only goes to boundary of page and I’m unable to figure 
out how to move it further.
Can anyone share wisdom on how to go about moving the icon to another page of 
the home screen?
Thanks,
Dan
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RE: Having Proof of COVID Vaccination on Your Phone

[Fazil]

Dear Mr. Weitzel.

I went to the provincial Health Gateway website and  I have installed 
BC-Services Card app. I can access my health record using this app, how can I 
access the digital certificate for my Covit Vaxination?

Thanks!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2021 10:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Having Proof of COVID Vaccination on Your Phone

 

It probably depends on where you are and if that is offered, here in British 
Columbia, Canada we can go to the provincial Health Gateway website where you 
have to either register or sign in with the BC Services card app on your phone 
(our health card) and then you can get a digital certificate, you can also add 
notes to your health record, check your COVID-19 test results if you had to 
take a test, prescription medications and they are just working on making lab 
test results available..

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: Sunday, August 1, 2021 11:11 PM
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Subject: Having Proof of COVID Vaccination on Your Phone

 

I have heard folks talk about having proof of their COVID vaccination on their 
phone.  How is this done?

 

Andy

 

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RE: Having Proof of COVID Vaccination on Your Phone

[Sieghard Weitzel]

And once again since the list is international, this of course only works if 
you have a card. Here in British Columbia you got a few papers both for the 
first and second shot which state that you had the shot, which vaccine you got 
and whether you had it in your right or left arm. Apart from that there is the 
digital certificate available via the Health Gateway, but no actual card has 
been issued and while there is a Federal component of the Canadian health 
system, it's primarily a provincial thing so I assume maybe some provinces have 
given out a card and others have not.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 9:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Having Proof of COVID Vaccination on Your Phone

Since this list has international subscribers, it should be noted that the NHS 
app referenced is only applicable in parts of the UK. If those in the US or 
other places without a government-based app for tracking their vaccination want 
to do so on their iDevices, I suggest googling the subject and reading one of 
the several articles that have been posted on the topic.

As others have mentioned, taking a photo of your vaccination card (both sides) 
is one option. I chose to scan both sides of my card on my flatbed scanner and 
saved the resulting file as a PDF image file. Since these cards usually have 
handwriting on them, running OCR on them doesn’t work great and a saved image 
file will be more easily read by a sighted individual wanting to check your 
vaccination status.

Alan Lemly

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hevener
Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 10:15 AM
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At the time I had vaccine, I was given a card showing all the gory details.  I 
had someone take a pic of it.

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Baracco
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I have heard folks talk about having proof of their COVID vaccination on their 
phone.  How is this done?

Andy

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RE: Having Proof of COVID Vaccination on Your Phone

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi James, which province are you in?

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Homuth
Sent: Sunday, August 1, 2021 11:42 PM
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My provincial government emailed it to me.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Doug 
Sloan
Sent: August 2, 2021 2:20 AM
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Where did you get the proof from?


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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Homuth
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My proof is a PDF file, so I just store it locally.

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Baracco
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I have heard folks talk about having proof of their COVID vaccination on their 
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It probably depends on where you are and if that is offered, here in British 
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test results available..

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
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I have heard folks talk about having proof of their COVID vaccination on their 
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Andy

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Re: Battery Issue in latest update

[Vicky Collins]

Oh, wow, I have a first generation iPhone SE showing maximum capacity of 66 
percent and still showing as supporting normal peak performance. The maximum 
capacity on my iPhone 7 is 78 percent, and it is also showing supporting normal 
peak performance. And, grin, no, as I've mentioned before, what with living out 
in the country and not near a place to do so, I don't plan to replace the 
batteries on them. I'm just trying to get the most I can out of them before I 
break out my newer iPhones and use them on a regular basis. I do have them 
backed up and ready to go, as the battery life on these older phones is now 
lasting less and less time between charges, as well as often very suddenly 
dropping 20 percent or more at a  time and sometimes just shutting off 
altogether. Thus, when I go out for more than just a few minutes, I take both 
phones with me just in case.

- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel  
To: "viphone@googlegroups.com" 
Date: Sunday, August 1, 2021 11:51 am
Subject: RE: Battery Issue in latest update

>
>
> 82% is very close to where Apple recommends that you get the battery changed 
> and I am actually surprised it still considers it peak performance, maybe 
> they changed it a bit, but when I had my iPhone 8 I was told my battery was 
> not performing at it's full potential when it was at 83%.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
> Hendrickson
> Sent: Sunday, August 1, 2021 4:25 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Battery Issue in latest update
> 
> I updated my iPhone 8 to 14.71 yesterday and when I checked my battery 
> health, it still said I was at 82% and at peak performance.  I have been at 
> this level of power, 82% and at peak performance for some time now.  I'll 
> keep an eye out and see if anything changes in the future.
> 
> On 7/31/21, danamariel...@gmail.com  wrote:
> > I have noticed on our I Phone 8's that if you check the battery health 
> > status, since the last update that it tells me and my husband and 
> > others who are friends of ours that they need to get their IPhone 8 
> > batteries replaced.
> >
> > Dana
> >
> >
> >
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
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> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: Battery Issue in latest update
> >
> >
> >
> > My husband and I have both noticed this behavior. He has a first 
> > generation SE and I have an SE 2020 and it appears to be happening on 
> > both phones since iOS 14 was installed.
> >
> > Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone
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RE: The scrub gesture [was "RE: Editing Home Screen"]

[Sieghard Weitzel]

And once you practice it you really don't have to start near the top left or 
even go left to right and down.
As long as you do 3 distinct movements with 2 fingers it will be recognized as 
a scrub, this can be left to right, right to left and down and back to the 
right or it can be straight across left to right and back to the left, right to 
left and back to the right or even start near the top or in the middle and go 
straight down, then back up and down again or start a bit lower and go up, then 
down and back  up again.
I would recommend to go to Voiceover Settings > Voiceover Practice and try it 
there because Voiceover will then tell you if you are doing it right.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 6:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: The scrub gesture [was "RE: Editing Home Screen"]

To perform the scrub gesture, pretend like you’re wiping off a smudge on your 
iPhone screen. Place two fingers in the upper left hand corner of the screen, 
swipe them to the right, then the left and down and finally back to the right.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 7:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Editing Home Screen

   To piggy back off of 
this, how do you do the scrub gesture? I’m totally blind and all I can find is 
to make a z which doesn’t help since the z they want is in print..


Sent from 
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 for Windows 10

From: Dan Yates
Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2021 10:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Editing Home Screen

Thanks so much to all of you for your help with this! Took some time to figure 
it out but with your help was able to move icons back to where they needed to 
be, as well as make some more changes! Again, many thanks
Dan

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 31, 2021, at 11:55 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

You are trying it the old way with dragging the app, much easier to flick down 
to Edit mode, double tap and Voiceover says "Started Editing".
Now find the app you want to move, let's assume it's the Camera app, and flick 
down again until you hear "Drag Camera", now double tap.
You can now take your finger off the screen and go to wherever you want to put 
the app, if you are in a folder on the second home screen and you want to put 
the app on the first home screen, exit the folder by doing the scrub gesture, 
then go to your first home page and go to where you want the app.
Let's assume you have the following apps in your top row:
App Store, Calculator, Settings and Clock
Let's further assume you want to put the Camera app in third place, where 
Settings now sits, this means Settings would get pushed to the right and the 
Clock app which is the last in the row would get pushed to the right as well 
which means it will end up in the second row on the very left.
So, you put focus on Settings, then flick down until you hear "Drop Camera 
before Settings" then you double tap and the Camera app is placed before 
Settings which means Settings is pushed over.
If you selected to "Drop Camera after Settings" the Camera app would go to the 
right of Settings where before you had the Clock app, this way Settings would 
stay in third place, Camera would now be in fourth place which is on the very 
right of row 1 and the Clock app still would end up in row 2 on the very left.
Think of "Drop before" that the app goes to the left of the app you are on 
which means in place of the app and drop after means it goes to the right of 
the app you are on and the next app gets pushed over.
There will also be an option to create a folder with the app you are on, for 
example, if you are dragging the Camera app and you go to the Photos app you 
could create a folder with these two apps which iOS would give a default name, 
this name can be changed later and if you are dragging an app and put focus on 
an existing folder then in addition to drop before and drop after you will have 
an option to drop the app into the folder.
Lastly, after you go to your first app and select to drag the app you can go to 
a second and third app or even more and on each of them you can flick down to 
where Voiceover says "Add to drag session" and double tap. Voiceover will say 
that you are now dragging 2 apps or 3 apps or however many you 

RE: Unacceptable Behavior in Group MSM Messaging

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I don't experience this, just tapped on compose to test it and I added the 
first recipient, then I tapped on Add Contact and I searched for a name, when I 
tapped on it the contact opened up and I tapped on their mobile number and 
Voiceover said "Added Recipient" and it took me back to the main message 
compose screen. I repeated this twice more this time adding people by going 
down in my list of contacts instead of using search and each time Voiceover 
said "Added recipient" and it went back to the main screen.
After I added 4 recipients I swiped to the message field and double tapped to 
write my message, but of course at this point I cancelled the message since I 
didn't really want to send one.
If you can't swipe to the message field you can also press Enter on the 
onscreen keyboard and it will advance you to the message field, I actually 
often do this instead because this way I just do one gesture and I get to the 
message field, otherwise I have to swipe a couple of times past Apps and Camera.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Bill 
Gallik
Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 1:29 AM
To: viPhone  
Subject: Unacceptable Behavior in Group MSM Messaging

I am experiencing a quite annoying behavior in the Message app when I try to 
send a group text.  This does not occur if I address a single recipient, but 
when trying to send a text to more than one recipient this happens.

OK, so, when I address a single recipient and then procede to the Subject and 
Body of the message all is well.

However, once I include an additional recipient I find the app “gets stuck” in  
the addressing portion of the dialog.  I find that I must activate “Add 
Contacts” to bring up the “Contacts” dialog.  At that point, I need to activate 
the “Cancel” button whereupon I return to the main message dialog and can then 
procede to the Subject and Body fields to complete the message.

I find this quite annoying.  Does anybody hae any suggestions as how best to 
avoid this aggravation (without sending the same message multiple times to 
multipole recipients).

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Re: Document scanning question

[Mária Orovčíková]

Thanks.
Does these two tell me document orientation?
And which of them is better to use?
Thanks again.

Dňa 2. 8. 2021 o 16:12 Richard Turner napísal(a):

If you have a computer with Openbook or Kurzwel, they have a mode for that.
ON the iPhone, I think KNFB Reader will tell you the orientation but the 
quality seems iffy these days.  You can get access to the basic KNFB Reader 
inside the free NFB Newsline app.

I am not sure which other iPhone scanning apps report orientation.




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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mária 
Orovcíková
Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 2:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Document scanning question

Hello list,
I have to scan some documents and send them via e-mail.
Please, is there a way to scan the documents without sighted help and make sure 
the scan is not upside down? Sometimes I need to scan something urgently and I 
don't have sighted person around all the time to check.
Thank you for your help in advance.
Maria

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RE: Having Proof of COVID Vaccination on Your Phone

[Alan Lemly]

Since this list has international subscribers, it should be noted that the NHS 
app referenced is only applicable in parts of the UK. If those in the US or 
other places without a government-based app for tracking their vaccination want 
to do so on their iDevices, I suggest googling the subject and reading one of 
the several articles that have been posted on the topic.

 

As others have mentioned, taking a photo of your vaccination card (both sides) 
is one option. I chose to scan both sides of my card on my flatbed scanner and 
saved the resulting file as a PDF image file. Since these cards usually have 
handwriting on them, running OCR on them doesn’t work great and a saved image 
file will be more easily read by a sighted individual wanting to check your 
vaccination status.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of kitty 
hevener
Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 10:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Having Proof of COVID Vaccination on Your Phone

 

At the time I had vaccine, I was given a card showing all the gory details.  I 
had someone take a pic of it.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 2:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Having Proof of COVID Vaccination on Your Phone

 

I have heard folks talk about having proof of their COVID vaccination on their 
phone.  How is this done?

 

Andy

 

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RE: Document scanning question

[llumpkin]

I don't think any of the IOS scanning programs do a satisfactory job of 
scanning documents. In my opinion, there is nothing better than a flat-bed 
scanner and some program for doing the ocr. Kurzweil 1000 and openbook are 
somewhat pricy but do an excellent job. Serotek (or whatever they call 
themselves now) sell docuscan for a couple hundred dollars and would, I think 
meet your needs. JAWS itself has convenient OCR which renders excellent results 
but doesn't export very well.
Handytech--who's name, I think, has changed--sells Iread for much less than 
either k1000 or openbook and would also meet your needs.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 9:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Document scanning question

If you have a computer with Openbook or Kurzwel, they have a mode for that.
ON the iPhone, I think KNFB Reader will tell you the orientation but the 
quality seems iffy these days.  You can get access to the basic KNFB Reader 
inside the free NFB Newsline app.

I am not sure which other iPhone scanning apps report orientation.




Richard
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mária 
Orovcíková
Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 2:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Document scanning question

Hello list,
I have to scan some documents and send them via e-mail.
Please, is there a way to scan the documents without sighted help and make sure 
the scan is not upside down? Sometimes I need to scan something urgently and I 
don't have sighted person around all the time to check.
Thank you for your help in advance.
Maria

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RE: Having Proof of COVID Vaccination on Your Phone

[kitty hevener]

At the time I had vaccine, I was given a card showing all the gory details.  I 
had someone take a pic of it.  

 

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Baracco
Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 2:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Having Proof of COVID Vaccination on Your Phone

 

I have heard folks talk about having proof of their COVID vaccination on their 
phone.  How is this done?

 

Andy

 

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Re: Editing Home Screen

[regina alvarado]

If the scrub gesture is too difficult, which it was for me, go to settings, 
Accessibility, enter voiceover, go to commands, then swipe to touch gestures, 
go to heading scrub, and swipe onceto the right and it says two finger scrub I 
believe and escape. Go into that and set another gesture to use for the scrub.I 
use quadruple two finger tap and it works just great. It’s a little more of a 
long step, but if you can get the gesture down quick, it works. It’s almost as 
fast as the scrub would be. Hope this helps you. If you have any other further 
questions let me know.

Reggie Alvarado 

On Aug 2, 2021, at 10:40 AM, LeDon Becker  wrote:


Use a two finger z motion on the screen. This is the scrub jester. Make the  z 
figure with quick short strokes. It may take a little practice.

Get Outlook for iOS
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Star 
Gazer 
Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 7:40:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Editing Home Screen
 
   To piggy back off of 
this, how do you do the scrub gesture? I’m totally blind and all I can find is 
to make a z which doesn’t help since the z they want is in print..
 
 
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
 
From: Dan Yates
Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2021 10:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Editing Home Screen
 
Thanks so much to all of you for your help with this! Took some time to figure 
it out but with your help was able to move icons back to where they needed to 
be, as well as make some more changes! Again, many thanks
Dan
 

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 31, 2021, at 11:55 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


You are trying it the old way with dragging the app, much easier to flick down 
to Edit mode, double tap and Voiceover says "Started Editing".
Now find the app you want to move, let's assume it's the Camera app, and flick 
down again until you hear "Drag Camera", now double tap.
You can now take your finger off the screen and go to wherever you want to put 
the app, if you are in a folder on the second home screen and you want to put 
the app on the first home screen, exit the folder by doing the scrub gesture, 
then go to your first home page and go to where you want the app.
Let's assume you have the following apps in your top row:
App Store, Calculator, Settings and Clock
Let's further assume you want to put the Camera app in third place, where 
Settings now sits, this means Settings would get pushed to the right and the 
Clock app which is the last in the row would get pushed to the right as well 
which means it will end up in the second row on the very left.
So, you put focus on Settings, then flick down until you hear "Drop Camera 
before Settings" then you double tap and the Camera app is placed before 
Settings which means Settings is pushed over.
If you selected to "Drop Camera after Settings" the Camera app would go to the 
right of Settings where before you had the Clock app, this way Settings would 
stay in third place, Camera would now be in fourth place which is on the very 
right of row 1 and the Clock app still would end up in row 2 on the very left.
Think of "Drop before" that the app goes to the left of the app you are on 
which means in place of the app and drop after means it goes to the right of 
the app you are on and the next app gets pushed over.
There will also be an option to create a folder with the app you are on, for 
example, if you are dragging the Camera app and you go to the Photos app you 
could create a folder with these two apps which iOS would give a default name, 
this name can be changed later and if you are dragging an app and put focus on 
an existing folder then in addition to drop before and drop after you will have 
an option to drop the app into the folder.
Lastly, after you go to your first app and select to drag the app you can go to 
a second and third app or even more and on each of them you can flick down to 
where Voiceover says "Add to drag session" and double tap. Voiceover will say 
that you are now dragging 2 apps or 3 apps or however many you select. This is 
very useful if you already have a folder and want to add a number of apps to 
the same folder.
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
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Sent: July 30, 2021 7:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Editing Home Screen
 
Hi everyone,
I have an iPhone 12 mini and have latest software installed.  Because of not 
having my phone locked when pushing it into pocket, I evidently triggered edit 
mode and several of my app icons, that normally are on my first page of home 
screen, are now shifted to other pages, some even into folders.
I’ve tried doing edit mode, holding my finger on icon that I’m wanting to shift 
back and sliding, but it only goes to boundary of page and I’m unable to figure 
out how to move it further.
Can anyone share wisdom on how to go about moving the icon to another page of 
the home screen?
Thanks,
Dan
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Re: Having Proof of COVID Vaccination on Your Phone

[Holly]

Andy:

You can also take a picture of your vaccination card with your  phone and keep 
it in an album in your photos app.

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Re: Editing Home Screen

[LeDon Becker]

Use a two finger z motion on the screen. This is the scrub jester. Make the  z 
figure with quick short strokes. It may take a little practice.

Get Outlook for iOS

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Star 
Gazer 
Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 7:40:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Editing Home Screen


   To piggy back off of 
this, how do you do the scrub gesture? I’m totally blind and all I can find is 
to make a z which doesn’t help since the z they want is in print..





Sent from Mail for Windows 10



From: Dan Yates
Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2021 10:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Editing Home Screen



Thanks so much to all of you for your help with this! Took some time to figure 
it out but with your help was able to move icons back to where they needed to 
be, as well as make some more changes! Again, many thanks

Dan



Sent from my iPhone



On Jul 31, 2021, at 11:55 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:



You are trying it the old way with dragging the app, much easier to flick down 
to Edit mode, double tap and Voiceover says "Started Editing".

Now find the app you want to move, let's assume it's the Camera app, and flick 
down again until you hear "Drag Camera", now double tap.

You can now take your finger off the screen and go to wherever you want to put 
the app, if you are in a folder on the second home screen and you want to put 
the app on the first home screen, exit the folder by doing the scrub gesture, 
then go to your first home page and go to where you want the app.

Let's assume you have the following apps in your top row:

App Store, Calculator, Settings and Clock

Let's further assume you want to put the Camera app in third place, where 
Settings now sits, this means Settings would get pushed to the right and the 
Clock app which is the last in the row would get pushed to the right as well 
which means it will end up in the second row on the very left.

So, you put focus on Settings, then flick down until you hear "Drop Camera 
before Settings" then you double tap and the Camera app is placed before 
Settings which means Settings is pushed over.

If you selected to "Drop Camera after Settings" the Camera app would go to the 
right of Settings where before you had the Clock app, this way Settings would 
stay in third place, Camera would now be in fourth place which is on the very 
right of row 1 and the Clock app still would end up in row 2 on the very left.

Think of "Drop before" that the app goes to the left of the app you are on 
which means in place of the app and drop after means it goes to the right of 
the app you are on and the next app gets pushed over.

There will also be an option to create a folder with the app you are on, for 
example, if you are dragging the Camera app and you go to the Photos app you 
could create a folder with these two apps which iOS would give a default name, 
this name can be changed later and if you are dragging an app and put focus on 
an existing folder then in addition to drop before and drop after you will have 
an option to drop the app into the folder.

Lastly, after you go to your first app and select to drag the app you can go to 
a second and third app or even more and on each of them you can flick down to 
where Voiceover says "Add to drag session" and double tap. Voiceover will say 
that you are now dragging 2 apps or 3 apps or however many you select. This is 
very useful if you already have a folder and want to add a number of apps to 
the same folder.



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danneyya...@gmail.com
Sent: July 30, 2021 7:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Editing Home Screen



Hi everyone,

I have an iPhone 12 mini and have latest software installed.  Because of not 
having my phone locked when pushing it into pocket, I evidently triggered edit 
mode and several of my app icons, that normally are on my first page of home 
screen, are now shifted to other pages, some even into folders.

I’ve tried doing edit mode, holding my finger on icon that I’m wanting to shift 
back and sliding, but it only goes to boundary of page and I’m unable to figure 
out how to move it further.

Can anyone share wisdom on how to go about moving the icon to another page of 
the home screen?

Thanks,

Dan

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RE: Document scanning question

[Richard Turner]

If you have a computer with Openbook or Kurzwel, they have a mode for that.
ON the iPhone, I think KNFB Reader will tell you the orientation but the 
quality seems iffy these days.  You can get access to the basic KNFB Reader 
inside the free NFB Newsline app.

I am not sure which other iPhone scanning apps report orientation.




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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mária 
Orovcíková
Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 2:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Document scanning question

Hello list,
I have to scan some documents and send them via e-mail.
Please, is there a way to scan the documents without sighted help and make sure 
the scan is not upside down? Sometimes I need to scan something urgently and I 
don't have sighted person around all the time to check.
Thank you for your help in advance.
Maria

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The scrub gesture [was "RE: Editing Home Screen"]

[Christopher Chaltain]

To perform the scrub gesture, pretend like you’re wiping off a smudge on your 
iPhone screen. Place two fingers in the upper left hand corner of the screen, 
swipe them to the right, then the left and down and finally back to the right.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 7:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Editing Home Screen

   To piggy back off of 
this, how do you do the scrub gesture? I’m totally blind and all I can find is 
to make a z which doesn’t help since the z they want is in print..


Sent from 
Mail
 for Windows 10

From: Dan Yates
Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2021 10:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Editing Home Screen

Thanks so much to all of you for your help with this! Took some time to figure 
it out but with your help was able to move icons back to where they needed to 
be, as well as make some more changes! Again, many thanks
Dan

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 31, 2021, at 11:55 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

You are trying it the old way with dragging the app, much easier to flick down 
to Edit mode, double tap and Voiceover says "Started Editing".
Now find the app you want to move, let's assume it's the Camera app, and flick 
down again until you hear "Drag Camera", now double tap.
You can now take your finger off the screen and go to wherever you want to put 
the app, if you are in a folder on the second home screen and you want to put 
the app on the first home screen, exit the folder by doing the scrub gesture, 
then go to your first home page and go to where you want the app.
Let's assume you have the following apps in your top row:
App Store, Calculator, Settings and Clock
Let's further assume you want to put the Camera app in third place, where 
Settings now sits, this means Settings would get pushed to the right and the 
Clock app which is the last in the row would get pushed to the right as well 
which means it will end up in the second row on the very left.
So, you put focus on Settings, then flick down until you hear "Drop Camera 
before Settings" then you double tap and the Camera app is placed before 
Settings which means Settings is pushed over.
If you selected to "Drop Camera after Settings" the Camera app would go to the 
right of Settings where before you had the Clock app, this way Settings would 
stay in third place, Camera would now be in fourth place which is on the very 
right of row 1 and the Clock app still would end up in row 2 on the very left.
Think of "Drop before" that the app goes to the left of the app you are on 
which means in place of the app and drop after means it goes to the right of 
the app you are on and the next app gets pushed over.
There will also be an option to create a folder with the app you are on, for 
example, if you are dragging the Camera app and you go to the Photos app you 
could create a folder with these two apps which iOS would give a default name, 
this name can be changed later and if you are dragging an app and put focus on 
an existing folder then in addition to drop before and drop after you will have 
an option to drop the app into the folder.
Lastly, after you go to your first app and select to drag the app you can go to 
a second and third app or even more and on each of them you can flick down to 
where Voiceover says "Add to drag session" and double tap. Voiceover will say 
that you are now dragging 2 apps or 3 apps or however many you select. This is 
very useful if you already have a folder and want to add a number of apps to 
the same folder.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
danneyya...@gmail.com
Sent: July 30, 2021 7:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Editing Home Screen

Hi everyone,
I have an iPhone 12 mini and have latest software installed.  Because of not 
having my phone locked when pushing it into pocket, I evidently triggered edit 
mode and several of my app icons, that normally are on my first page of home 
screen, are now shifted to other pages, some even into folders.
I’ve tried doing edit mode, holding my finger on icon that I’m wanting to shift 
back and sliding, but it only goes to boundary of page and I’m unable to figure 
out how to move it further.
Can anyone share wisdom on how to go about moving the icon to another page of 

RE: Editing Home Screen

[Star Gazer]

To piggy back off of this, how do you do the 
scrub gesture? I’m totally blind and all I can find is to make a z which 
doesn’t help since the z they want is in print..


Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Dan Yates
Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2021 10:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Editing Home Screen

Thanks so much to all of you for your help with this! Took some time to figure 
it out but with your help was able to move icons back to where they needed to 
be, as well as make some more changes! Again, many thanks
Dan

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 31, 2021, at 11:55 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
 
You are trying it the old way with dragging the app, much easier to flick down 
to Edit mode, double tap and Voiceover says "Started Editing".
Now find the app you want to move, let's assume it's the Camera app, and flick 
down again until you hear "Drag Camera", now double tap.
You can now take your finger off the screen and go to wherever you want to put 
the app, if you are in a folder on the second home screen and you want to put 
the app on the first home screen, exit the folder by doing the scrub gesture, 
then go to your first home page and go to where you want the app.
Let's assume you have the following apps in your top row:
App Store, Calculator, Settings and Clock
Let's further assume you want to put the Camera app in third place, where 
Settings now sits, this means Settings would get pushed to the right and the 
Clock app which is the last in the row would get pushed to the right as well 
which means it will end up in the second row on the very left.
So, you put focus on Settings, then flick down until you hear "Drop Camera 
before Settings" then you double tap and the Camera app is placed before 
Settings which means Settings is pushed over. 
If you selected to "Drop Camera after Settings" the Camera app would go to the 
right of Settings where before you had the Clock app, this way Settings would 
stay in third place, Camera would now be in fourth place which is on the very 
right of row 1 and the Clock app still would end up in row 2 on the very left.
Think of "Drop before" that the app goes to the left of the app you are on 
which means in place of the app and drop after means it goes to the right of 
the app you are on and the next app gets pushed over.
There will also be an option to create a folder with the app you are on, for 
example, if you are dragging the Camera app and you go to the Photos app you 
could create a folder with these two apps which iOS would give a default name, 
this name can be changed later and if you are dragging an app and put focus on 
an existing folder then in addition to drop before and drop after you will have 
an option to drop the app into the folder.
Lastly, after you go to your first app and select to drag the app you can go to 
a second and third app or even more and on each of them you can flick down to 
where Voiceover says "Add to drag session" and double tap. Voiceover will say 
that you are now dragging 2 apps or 3 apps or however many you select. This is 
very useful if you already have a folder and want to add a number of apps to 
the same folder.
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
danneyya...@gmail.com
Sent: July 30, 2021 7:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Editing Home Screen
 
Hi everyone,
I have an iPhone 12 mini and have latest software installed.  Because of not 
having my phone locked when pushing it into pocket, I evidently triggered edit 
mode and several of my app icons, that normally are on my first page of home 
screen, are now shifted to other pages, some even into folders.
I’ve tried doing edit mode, holding my finger on icon that I’m wanting to shift 
back and sliding, but it only goes to boundary of page and I’m unable to figure 
out how to move it further.
Can anyone share wisdom on how to go about moving the icon to another page of 
the home screen?
Thanks,
Dan
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RE: oticon device to connect to bluetooth

[Ann Byrne]

When I read about the clip, it sounded like it would receive 
bluetooth; but your description sounds like it isn't.


Thanks for the feedback.
At 07:07 AM 8/2/2021, you wrote:
There is something called a connect clip that You can purchase, this 
doesn't stream per say, but it acts as a little  microphone that you 
place near what you're listening to and amplifies the sound and it 
works great in crowded spaces too.
My husband has one and if we're in a restaurant I clip it to the 
collar of my shirt this way he can hear me talking and it filters 
out background noise.



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Of Ann Byrne

Sent: Friday, July 30, 2021 9:33 PM
To: viPhone list 
Subject: oticon device to connect to bluetooth

We have oticon hearing aids streaming from the iPhone into the 
ear.  Is there a device that would stream from a bluetooth 
transmitter such as a victor Stream?


Thx,

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RE: oticon device to connect to bluetooth

[Johna Gravitt]

There is something called a connect clip that You can purchase, this doesn't 
stream per say, but it acts as a little  microphone that you place near what 
you're listening to and amplifies the sound and it works great in crowded 
spaces too.
My husband has one and if we're in a restaurant I clip it to the collar of my 
shirt this way he can hear me talking and it filters out background noise.


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We have oticon hearing aids streaming from the iPhone into the ear.  Is there a 
device that would stream from a bluetooth transmitter such as a victor Stream?

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Document scanning question

[Mária Orovčíková]

Hello list,
I have to scan some documents and send them via e-mail.
Please, is there a way to scan the documents without sighted help and 
make sure the scan is not upside down? Sometimes I need to scan 
something urgently and I don't have sighted person around all the time 
to check.

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Unacceptable Behavior in Group MSM Messaging

[Bill Gallik]

I am experiencing a quite annoying behavior in the Message app when I try to 
send a group text.  This does not occur if I address a single recipient, but 
when trying to send a text to more than one recipient this happens.

OK, so, when I address a single recipient and then procede to the Subject and 
Body of the message all is well.

However, once I include an additional recipient I find the app “gets stuck” in  
the addressing portion of the dialog.  I find that I must activate “Add 
Contacts” to bring up the “Contacts” dialog.  At that point, I need to activate 
the “Cancel” button whereupon I return to the main message dialog and can then 
procede to the Subject and Body fields to complete the message.

I find this quite annoying.  Does anybody hae any suggestions as how best to 
avoid this aggravation (without sending the same message multiple times to 
multipole recipients).

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Re: Having Proof of COVID Vaccination on Your Phone

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

And the recent update to the NHS app now allows you to download that Covid 
certificate to Apple Wallet or as a PDF. 
Harry

> On 2 Aug 2021, at 09:10, Alison May  wrote:
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> I have the nhs app on my iphone and showing your vaccine status is available 
> there. 
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> Sent from my iPhone by Alison may
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>> I have heard folks talk about having proof of their COVID vaccination on 
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Re: Having Proof of COVID Vaccination on Your Phone

[Alison May]

I have the nhs app on my iphone and showing your vaccine status is available 
there. 

Sent from my iPhone by Alison may
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Podcasts using spotify?

[Adam Morris]

Hi all,
Wondering if anyone has used spotify on the iPhone to listen to podcasts?
I'm trying to help someone and from what I can see the podcasts section 
is a total mess and isn't very usable.
The reason they use spotify is because a lot of the podcasts they listen 
to are spotify only and have moved away from using other clients.

TIA.

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RE: Having Proof of COVID Vaccination on Your Phone

[Doug Sloan]

Cheers

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
James Homuth
Sent: Monday, 2 August 2021 4:42 PM
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My provincial government emailed it to me.

 

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Where did you get the proof from?

 

 

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My proof is a PDF file, so I just store it locally.

 

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I have heard folks talk about having proof of their COVID vaccination on their 
phone.  How is this done?

 

Andy

 

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RE: Having Proof of COVID Vaccination on Your Phone

[James Homuth]

My provincial government emailed it to me.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Doug 
Sloan
Sent: August 2, 2021 2:20 AM
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Where did you get the proof from?

 

 

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Subject: RE: Having Proof of COVID Vaccination on Your Phone

 

My proof is a PDF file, so I just store it locally.

 

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I have heard folks talk about having proof of their COVID vaccination on their 
phone.  How is this done?

 

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RE: Having Proof of COVID Vaccination on Your Phone

[Doug Sloan]

Where did you get the proof from?

 

 

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My proof is a PDF file, so I just store it locally.

 

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Sent: August 2, 2021 2:11 AM
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I have heard folks talk about having proof of their COVID vaccination on their 
phone.  How is this done?

 

Andy

 

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RE: Having Proof of COVID Vaccination on Your Phone

[James Homuth]

My proof is a PDF file, so I just store it locally.

 

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I have heard folks talk about having proof of their COVID vaccination on their 
phone.  How is this done?

 

Andy

 

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Having Proof of COVID Vaccination on Your Phone

[Andy Baracco]

I have heard folks talk about having proof of their COVID vaccination on their 
phone.  How is this done?

Andy

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