Re: Mac question for a sighted friend

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Richard,
In the Window menu of the Mail app, she needs to select Previous Recipients 
then type part of the email address she wants in the search box and a short 
list of possible candidates will appear in the adjacent table. She then needs 
to click the Delete button.
Cheers,

Anne




> On 21 Mar 2021, at 18:39, Robert Hill  wrote:
> 
> Hi Richard,
> 
> I haven't run Sierra in awhile, but if she goes into the mail app, and looks 
> along the menuber, she should find a menu item over to the right which might 
> be labeled as windows.
> In that menu there should be an item such as previous recipients, or someting 
> similar.
> 
> This should have a table with reevious recipients.
> 
> She should be able to move down through that table and delete any email 
> addresses she snoses.
> 
> Hope this works for her.
> 
> Bob Hill
> 
> 
>> On Mar 21, 2021, at 12:43 PM, Richard Turner > > wrote:
>> 
>> I have a sighted friend, who is not terribly tech savy.
>> She has a 5 year old Mac laptop, macOS Sierra, version 10.12.6.
>> She is trying to delete an old email address for me so it doesn’t auto fill 
>> in the to field.
>> She found a couple ways by searching the web, but neither worked.
>>  
>> Since I use Windows machines, I thought maybe someone had a solid way to do 
>> this and could share it with me.
>> If you don’t want to clutter the list, my direct email is 
>> richardturne...@outlook.com 
>>  
>> Thanks,
>>  
>>  
>> Richard
>>  
>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
>> realize that you are in a hurry.
>>  
>>  
>> My web site, www.turner42.com 
>>  
>>  
>>  
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Re: Using French Apple Magic Keyboard for English?

[Anne Robertson]

Hello,
You don’t have to do anything. The keyboard will be in English if your iDevice 
is in English. It’s only the printing on the keyboard that’s different.
Cheers,
Anne



> On 9 Dec 2020, at 09:28, Fazil  wrote:
> 
> I would be getting mine on Friday, how can I switch it to English?
> Thanks!
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
> Anne Robertson
> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2020 12:19 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Using French Apple Magic Keyboard for English?
>  
> Hello Simon,
> The British keyboard has 79 keys, but the American one has 78. Also, the 
> Return key is a different shape on the two keyboards. The French keyboard is 
> like the British one, but the keys are labelled differently. The British one 
> is qwerty, and the French one is azerty. The labelling of the keys is 
> transparent to the device it is used with. The layout is set on the iDevice 
> or computer.
> I have a shortcut to switch rapidly between French and English on my Mac, 
> which has keys printed with the French layout.
> Cheers,
> Anne
>  
>  
> 
> 
>> On 9 Dec 2020, at 01:37, Simon A Fogarty > <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
>>  
>> I was under the impression that the number of keys was the same but the 
>> actual key function with the French keyboard is different
>> But if you have the English keyboard as your default on your mac then I was 
>> under the belief that it worked correctly.
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
>> Anne Robertson
>> Sent: Wednesday, 9 December 2020 2:23 am
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: Using French Apple Magic Keyboard for English?
>>  
>> Hello,
>> The layout is like the British English keyboard. I don’t know how it behaves 
>> if set to an American layout. I switch between the British and French 
>> layouts on my Mac all the time.
>> Cheers,
>> Anne
>>  
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 8 Dec 2020, at 13:50, Fazil >> <mailto:fzlmahmoo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>  
>>> Is the layout the same?
>>> Thanks!
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
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>>> Anne Robertson
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2020 1:37 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: Re: Using French Apple Magic Keyboard for English?
>>>  
>>> Hello,
>>> Yes, the French keyboard will work for English. The only difference is 
>>> what’s printed on the keys. Your iDevice will not know the difference.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Anne
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 8 Dec 2020, at 00:01, Fazil >>> <mailto:fzlmahmoo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>  
>>>> Hi, list.
>>>> I saw a French Apple Magic Keyboard on Craig List.
>>>> Would I be able to use it for English typing exclusively if I purchase 
>>>> this French Keyboard? Would the voiceOver keys be second and third from 
>>>> the left edge in second row?
>>>> Thanks!
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Re: Using French Apple Magic Keyboard for English?

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Simon,
The British keyboard has 79 keys, but the American one has 78. Also, the Return 
key is a different shape on the two keyboards. The French keyboard is like the 
British one, but the keys are labelled differently. The British one is qwerty, 
and the French one is azerty. The labelling of the keys is transparent to the 
device it is used with. The layout is set on the iDevice or computer.
I have a shortcut to switch rapidly between French and English on my Mac, which 
has keys printed with the French layout.
Cheers,
Anne



> On 9 Dec 2020, at 01:37, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> I was under the impression that the number of keys was the same but the 
> actual key function with the French keyboard is different
> But if you have the English keyboard as your default on your mac then I was 
> under the belief that it worked correctly.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
> Anne Robertson
> Sent: Wednesday, 9 December 2020 2:23 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Using French Apple Magic Keyboard for English?
>  
> Hello,
> The layout is like the British English keyboard. I don’t know how it behaves 
> if set to an American layout. I switch between the British and French layouts 
> on my Mac all the time.
> Cheers,
> Anne
>  
>  
> 
> 
> On 8 Dec 2020, at 13:50, Fazil  <mailto:fzlmahmoo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>  
> Is the layout the same?
> Thanks!
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
> Anne Robertson
> Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2020 1:37 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Using French Apple Magic Keyboard for English?
>  
> Hello,
> Yes, the French keyboard will work for English. The only difference is what’s 
> printed on the keys. Your iDevice will not know the difference.
> Cheers,
> Anne
>  
>  
>  
> 
> 
> 
> On 8 Dec 2020, at 00:01, Fazil  <mailto:fzlmahmoo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>  
> Hi, list.
> I saw a French Apple Magic Keyboard on Craig List.
> Would I be able to use it for English typing exclusively if I purchase this 
> French Keyboard? Would the voiceOver keys be second and third from the left 
> edge in second row?
> Thanks!
>  
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Re: Using French Apple Magic Keyboard for English?

[Anne Robertson]

Hello,
Yes, the keys from the left are FN, Control, Option, Command, Space Bar, 
Command, Option, and then the arrow keys.
Cheers,
Anne



> On 8 Dec 2020, at 14:56, Fazil  wrote:
> 
> Ok, are VoiceOver keys second and third keys from the left-edge of the 
> keyboard?
> Thanks!
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
> Anne Robertson
> Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2020 5:23 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Using French Apple Magic Keyboard for English?
>  
> Hello,
> The layout is like the British English keyboard. I don’t know how it behaves 
> if set to an American layout. I switch between the British and French layouts 
> on my Mac all the time.
> Cheers,
> Anne
>  
>  
> 
> 
>> On 8 Dec 2020, at 13:50, Fazil > <mailto:fzlmahmoo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>  
>> Is the layout the same?
>> Thanks!
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
>> Anne Robertson
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2020 1:37 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: Using French Apple Magic Keyboard for English?
>>  
>> Hello,
>> Yes, the French keyboard will work for English. The only difference is 
>> what’s printed on the keys. Your iDevice will not know the difference.
>> Cheers,
>> Anne
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 8 Dec 2020, at 00:01, Fazil >> <mailto:fzlmahmoo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>  
>>> Hi, list.
>>> I saw a French Apple Magic Keyboard on Craig List.
>>> Would I be able to use it for English typing exclusively if I purchase this 
>>> French Keyboard? Would the voiceOver keys be second and third from the left 
>>> edge in second row?
>>> Thanks!
>>>  
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Re: Using French Apple Magic Keyboard for English?

[Anne Robertson]

Hello,
The layout is like the British English keyboard. I don’t know how it behaves if 
set to an American layout. I switch between the British and French layouts on 
my Mac all the time.
Cheers,
Anne



> On 8 Dec 2020, at 13:50, Fazil  wrote:
> 
> Is the layout the same?
> Thanks!
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
> Anne Robertson
> Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2020 1:37 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Using French Apple Magic Keyboard for English?
>  
> Hello,
> Yes, the French keyboard will work for English. The only difference is what’s 
> printed on the keys. Your iDevice will not know the difference.
> Cheers,
> Anne
>  
>  
>  
> 
> 
>> On 8 Dec 2020, at 00:01, Fazil > <mailto:fzlmahmoo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>  
>> Hi, list.
>> I saw a French Apple Magic Keyboard on Craig List.
>> Would I be able to use it for English typing exclusively if I purchase this 
>> French Keyboard? Would the voiceOver keys be second and third from the left 
>> edge in second row?
>> Thanks!
>>  
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Re: Using French Apple Magic Keyboard for English?

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Hello,Yes, the French keyboard will work for English. The only difference is what’s printed on the keys. Your iDevice will not know the difference.Cheers,AnneOn 8 Dec 2020, at 00:01, Fazil  wrote:Hi, list.I saw a French Apple Magic Keyboard on Craig List.Would I be able to use it for English typing exclusively if I purchase this French Keyboard? Would the voiceOver keys be second and third from the left edge in second row?Thanks! -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/03d301d6ccec%24f8636520%24e92a2f60%24%40gmail.com.



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Re: Mac OCR and Scanners

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Steve,
If your student is only working in English, then Prizmo is a good option. But 
for anyone using more than one language, FineReader Pro is really good. It can 
recognise up to 3 languages in one document. It’s what I use since I never know 
whether a document is going to be in English or French.
Cheers,

Anne





> On 27 Aug 2020, at 15:39, Cook, Steve  wrote:
> 
> Hi All, 
>  
> I do not have much experience on a Mac. I am working with a college student 
> whom needs OCR software and a portable scanner. I know I will get differing 
> opinions , but what would you recommend?
>  
> Steve cook
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Old mini bluetooth keyboard still works

[Anne Robertson]

Hello list,
The other day, my husband unearthed a mini bluetooth keyboard we bought at 
least ten years ago to use with my first iPhone, a 3 GS. We charged it up and 
paired it with my 2020 SE running the latest iOS and it still works. It’s 
slightly smaller all round than the iPhone and has 49 keys. It has the VO keys 
to the right of the space bar and all the usual additional symbols can be 
achieved using either the FN keys or the Option keys.
It isn’t the easiest keyboard to use, being so tiny, but it looks very handy 
for situations where the onscreen keyboard is hard to use such as in a car or a 
train.
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Re: Accessible guitar tuning app?

[Anne Robertson]

I could tune my guitars just fine using a tuning fork, but when I fixed up an 
old banjo someone gave me, I needed this app. Otherwise, I had to tune a guitar 
and then the banjo. My husband, who has perfect pitch, doesn’t have that 
problem.
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Anne




> On 4 Oct 2019, at 15:29, Richard Turner  wrote:
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> Robert,
> That was the second response in this thread.
> I gave him the link to Talking Tuner in the first response, then he asked 
> about guitar lesson apps, which is when I said there used to be one, but it 
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Re: Keto Recipes

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Steve,

I haven’t an app to suggest, but here’s a website with lots of free keto 
recipes:

The 2 keto dudes podcast is a great source of information and fun to listen to. 
Here’s the link to the home page:

Cheers,

Anne




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> Hi All, 
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> Does anyone know of an app free or paid that works with VO to find Keto 
> recipes?  
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> Steve
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Re: Question about using page up or down with text edit on mac

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Vicki,

The Page up and down commands are purely visual and do not move any cursors. 
You have to interact with the text area and use the VO keys.
VO-Page Down will take you to the next page as long as TextEdit is set to Wrap 
to Page and not Wrap to window. The command to switch between these two options 
is Command-Shift-w.
Cheers,

Anne




> On 10 Sep 2019, at 00:37, Vicki Ratcliffe  wrote:
> 
> I have a couple documents in RTF format (one was not written in text edit 
> but was converted to RTF and the other was written in text edit) and have 
> tried the function key on the mac air with up or down arrow and the option 
> key with up or down arrow.  I want to go from page to page in the document 
> but nothing seems to take me to the top of each page.  I can scroll with the 
> trackpad but was hoping that the keyboard command would work.  any 
> suggestions?  Thanks.
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> Vicki
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Re: Need a beginner Mac list

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Hello Marie,
The longest running Mac discussion list is Mac Visionaries, and is run by the 
same people as this list. You should get all the help you need there.
Send an email to the Mac Visionaries list moderator, Mark Taylor.  You can 
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Anne



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> Could anyone please give me the name of a Mac list for newbies?
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Re: Does any one stil use iTunes to listen to internashional radio stations

[Anne Robertson]

I’m afraid I don’t use the Home Pod so can’t help you there.
Cheers,

Anne




> On 26 Nov 2018, at 09:40, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  
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> After much research, I discovered that internet radio is hidden in the iTunes 
> sidebar by default! 
> I have created the playlist as you described with the radio 4 stream in it. 
> The playlist will play on my Mac but it is marked as “not eligible for the 
> iCloud music library”, meaning that it will not play on my HomePod. Is there 
> any way to get an internet radio playlist to play in iCloud music library 
> (and therefore on HomePod)?
> Thanks
> Harry
> 
>> On 26 Nov 2018, at 06:26, Anne Robertson  wrote:
>> 
>> BBC Radio4 is under Talk Radio. I don’t know Radio Valencia.
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 25 Nov 2018, at 17:02, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
>>>  wrote:
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>>> I tried to find BBC Radio 4 and Radio Valencia on iTunes Radio but no 
>>> success. Did I miss something? It seems ridiculous that a HomePod cannot be 
>>> asked to play such radio stations whether on playlist or directly. 
>>> Maybe one day TuneIn Radio will come to HomePod?
>>> Harry in York, UK
>>> 
>>>> On 24 Nov 2018, at 18:53, Anne Robertson  wrote:
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>>>> Hello Judy,
>>>> 
>>>> Just create a new playlist, then in the internet radio section, find the 
>>>> one you want to add and do Cmd-c to copy its address to the clipboard. Go 
>>>> to the playlist and paste it in with Cmd-v.
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> 
>>>> Anne
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 24 Nov 2018, at 19:42, Judy Holloway  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> How do you make a playlist of favorite radio stations on iTunes? 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 24, 2018, at 3:46 AM, Anne Robertson  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I use iTunes on my Mac every day to listen to international radio 
>>>>> stations. I have a playlist of my favourites.
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Anne
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 23 Nov 2018, at 23:19, 'wui chin Leong' via VIPhone 
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>>>>>> Does any one stil use iTunes to listen to radio stations from all over 
>>>>>> the world.
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Re: Does any one stil use iTunes to listen to internashional radio stations

[Anne Robertson]

The command Cmd-Option-s will hide or show the sidebar.
Cheers,

Anne




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> I can’t find the side bar in I tunes where is it located
> adrian Leong
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>> On Nov 25, 2018, at 11:26 PM, Anne Robertson > <mailto:annefromo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
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>> BBC Radio4 is under Talk Radio. I don’t know Radio Valencia.
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 25 Nov 2018, at 17:02, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I tried to find BBC Radio 4 and Radio Valencia on iTunes Radio but no 
>>> success. Did I miss something? It seems ridiculous that a HomePod cannot be 
>>> asked to play such radio stations whether on playlist or directly. 
>>> Maybe one day TuneIn Radio will come to HomePod?
>>> Harry in York, UK
>>> 
>>>> On 24 Nov 2018, at 18:53, Anne Robertson >>> <mailto:annefromo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello Judy,
>>>> 
>>>> Just create a new playlist, then in the internet radio section, find the 
>>>> one you want to add and do Cmd-c to copy its address to the clipboard. Go 
>>>> to the playlist and paste it in with Cmd-v.
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> 
>>>> Anne
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>>>> 
>>>>> How do you make a playlist of favorite radio stations on iTunes? 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 24, 2018, at 3:46 AM, Anne Robertson >>>> <mailto:annefromo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I use iTunes on my Mac every day to listen to international radio 
>>>>> stations. I have a playlist of my favourites.
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Anne
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 23 Nov 2018, at 23:19, 'wui chin Leong' via VIPhone 
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>>>>>> Does any one stil use iTunes to listen to radio stations from all over 
>>>>>> the world.
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Re: Does any one stil use iTunes to listen to internashional radio stations

[Anne Robertson]

BBC Radio4 is under Talk Radio. I don’t know Radio Valencia.
Cheers,

Anne




> On 25 Nov 2018, at 17:02, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  
> wrote:
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> I tried to find BBC Radio 4 and Radio Valencia on iTunes Radio but no 
> success. Did I miss something? It seems ridiculous that a HomePod cannot be 
> asked to play such radio stations whether on playlist or directly. 
> Maybe one day TuneIn Radio will come to HomePod?
> Harry in York, UK
> 
>> On 24 Nov 2018, at 18:53, Anne Robertson  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Judy,
>> 
>> Just create a new playlist, then in the internet radio section, find the one 
>> you want to add and do Cmd-c to copy its address to the clipboard. Go to the 
>> playlist and paste it in with Cmd-v.
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 24 Nov 2018, at 19:42, Judy Holloway  wrote:
>>> 
>>> How do you make a playlist of favorite radio stations on iTunes? 
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Nov 24, 2018, at 3:46 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I use iTunes on my Mac every day to listen to international radio stations. 
>>> I have a playlist of my favourites.
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 23 Nov 2018, at 23:19, 'wui chin Leong' via VIPhone 
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>>>> Does any one stil use iTunes to listen to radio stations from all over the 
>>>> world.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPad
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Re: Does any one stil use iTunes to listen to internashional radio stations

[Anne Robertson]

I use iTunes on my Mac. I go to the Internet radio category in the sidebar, 
jump to the list of radio stations, expand the category that seems appropriate 
and type part of the station’s name. That usually finds what I’m looking for.
Cheers,

Anne




> On 24 Nov 2018, at 22:20, 'wui chin Leong' via VIPhone 
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> how doo you find radio stations in I tunes
> adrian Leong
> adrianleon...@icloud.com <mailto:adrianleon...@icloud.com>
> 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 24, 2018, at 11:42 AM, Judy Holloway > <mailto:judy...@gmail.com>> wrote:
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>> How do you make a playlist of favorite radio stations on iTunes? 
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Nov 24, 2018, at 3:46 AM, Anne Robertson > <mailto:annefromo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I use iTunes on my Mac every day to listen to international radio stations. 
>> I have a playlist of my favourites.
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Does any one stil use iTunes to listen to internashional radio stations

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Hello Judy,

Just create a new playlist, then in the internet radio section, find the one 
you want to add and do Cmd-c to copy its address to the clipboard. Go to the 
playlist and paste it in with Cmd-v.
Cheers,

Anne




> On 24 Nov 2018, at 19:42, Judy Holloway  wrote:
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> How do you make a playlist of favorite radio stations on iTunes? 
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Nov 24, 2018, at 3:46 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
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> I use iTunes on my Mac every day to listen to international radio stations. I 
> have a playlist of my favourites.
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Does any one stil use iTunes to listen to internashional radio stations

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I use iTunes on my Mac every day to listen to international radio stations. I 
have a playlist of my favourites.
Cheers,

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Re: Word Processer for Macbook Air?

[Anne Robertson]

Hello,
All new Macs allow you to download the iWork suite (Pages, Numbers and Keynote) 
for free. All of these applications are accessible with VoiceOver. They can 
also export to the MS Office equivalent formats as well as opening those MS 
Office documents.
cheers,
Anne



> On 10 Nov 2018, at 17:25, Fazil M.  wrote:
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> Hi, list.
> Does Macbook Air come with any pre-installed word processor? If yes, Is it 
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Re: Kobo and Walmart ebooks reading apps

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Hello Travis,

I use the Kobo app on a daily basis. It has its problems, but it is usable.
Set the page transition to None, other settings don’t matter.
You sometimes have to double-tap on the title then the author to get the book 
to open.
To read, do a two-finger swipe up and it will read the whole chapter. If it’s a 
long chapter, VoiceOver may take some time to digest it before speaking. I’ve 
had it fail completely with a chapter that was 100 pages long, but I could read 
it with my Braille display.
To go to next chapter, you have to turn VoiceOver off and do a two-finger swipe 
left.
To turn a page, turn VoiceOver off and swipe left with one finger.
I hope this helps.
Cheers,

Anne



> On 14 Sep 2018, at 01:25, Kwork  wrote:
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> Though both of these can be downloaded from the App Store, it seems that the 
> Kobo and Walmart ebook apps, since the companies merged, are now one and the 
> same under different names. Maybe the Kobo version will eventually disappear 
> as Walmart has taken over?
> 
> Anyway, has anyone use these apps successfully with Voiceover? So far I'm not 
> having much luck. Thanks.
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Re: does anyone have recent experience, good or bad, with the Kobo Books app?

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Hello Paul,

The accessibility of Kobo has deteriorated in the past couple of years, but I 
still manage to read books with it.
Make sure the Transition style is None.
Once the book is open, you can read a whole chapter by doing a two-finger swipe 
up. You have to give it time to digest the whole chapter before it starts 
reading.
To turn a page, turn VoiceOver off then swipe left with one finger.
To go to next chapter, turn VoiceOver off then swipe left with two fingers.
I find I have to place the focus a little away from the end of the chapter for 
the two-finger gesture to work. This is not true for turning a page.
Let me know if you need more help.
Cheers,

Anne


> On 21 Aug 2018, at 14:20, Paul Ferrara  wrote:
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> There is a book I can’t get on Kindle; Kobo has it.
> I bought it, and I can open the book and select a section to read through the 
> contents page but cannot advance forward or backwards through the book; I 
> cannot move forward a page or backward.
> All feedback is appreciated.
> I did put in a request with their help/customer service team.
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Re: Did anyone have problems reading Jonathan‘s article?

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I read books from Kobo, and for some months now, the longer the chapter, the 
longer it takes VoiceOver to start reading after the command to read from the 
top. It’s as though VoiceOver is digesting all the pages before beginning to 
read. For 40 pages, it can take a full minute for VoiceOver to start reading.
Cheers,

Anne



> On 7 Apr 2018, at 00:53, Les Kriegler  wrote:
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> Yes, when I tried to perform a continuous reading command, I lost speech. The 
> only way I could read it, and I haven’t finished it yet, is to continually 
> swipe through the article. Don’t know why this occurred.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Apr 6, 2018, at 6:47 PM, Esther Levegnale  
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>> Hi, Kathy,
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>> I also had trouble reading Jonahan’s article.  It seemed that the speech 
>> didn’t work for me.  I just got clicks that we get in VoiceOver, but no 
>> speech.  I was very anxious to read this article because I use AIRA myself.
>> 
>> Esther
>> 
>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
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>>> On Apr 6, 2018, at 5:51 PM, Kathy Brandt  wrote:
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>>> On my iPhone 5s I had to resort to reading one line at a time, because when 
>>> I tried continuous reading, it would lock up, and it was all I could do to 
>>> get out of it to close mail. My phone isn’t that full. The only thing 
>>> similar to it that I have experienced is when there is a long thread of 
>>> messages. In safari I think I can read lengthy articles with no problem. 
>>> Has anyone noticed this?
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Re: OCR for German Text?

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Hello Harry,

KNFBReader does support German. I just checked and the languages are English, 
French, Spanish and German.

Cheers,

Anne



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Re: LookTel Recognizer, will it be updated?

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Hello Michael,

LookTel Recognizer allows you to create a collection of images with voice tags 
explaining what they are. I use it to distinguish between coffee mugs that are 
identical apart from the pictures on them.
You can use it to identify clothing, too, but you need the help of a sighted 
person to create the voice tags in the first place. After that, you can always 
tell things apart using the Recogniser app and it works almost instantaneously.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 5 Nov 2017, at 18:34, Michael Irons <leomik...@cox.net> wrote:
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> Hello everybody what is look tell recognizer and where you get it and how 
> much does it cost and what does it recognize. Air?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> Hello everyone,
>> 
>> Does anyone know whether Recognizer is going to be updated? I read here a 
>> while back that it would be, but we’re already on iOS 11.1 and there’s no 
>> sign of it. I use it almost every day so it would be very annoying to be 
>> without it.
>> Cheers,
>> 
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LookTel Recognizer, will it be updated?

[Anne Robertson]

Hello everyone,

Does anyone know whether Recognizer is going to be updated? I read here a while 
back that it would be, but we’re already on iOS 11.1 and there’s no sign of it. 
I use it almost every day so it would be very annoying to be without it.
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Re: Question about controlling your Mac computer with voice

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The Mac can be almost entirely controlled by voice. The Accessibility panel in 
System Preferences shows the built-in commands for dictation and offers the 
possibility of configuring ones own commands to simulate key combinations.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 14 Sep 2017, at 23:54, TaraPrakash  wrote:
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> Hi all
> 
> Is there  a Siri kind of option for a Mac computer. 
> 
> And if you cannot control the computer,  is it possible to give dictation  on 
> a word  editor?   I'm sure dragon would have  an application for  Mac   But   
> Is there a built in utility on Mac computer for dictation?
> I would appreciate your suggestion. I know somebody who recently met with a 
> serious  accident and would be able to   Use his computer if there  was such 
> a utility 
> 
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Re: scroll pages with VO on OS mac.

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Mário,

Have you tried VO-FN-up or down arrow? That’s the command that works in text 
documents. Effectively, it’s VO-Page Up or VO-Page Down.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 26 Aug 2017, at 06:59, Mário Navarro  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Mike.
> doesn't work.
> I had already tried this command but without success.
> 
> Thank you.
> Cheers.
> 
> 
> Às 13:41 de 25/08/2017, Mike B. escreveu:
>> Hi Mario,
>>  
>> How about:
>>  
>>  Option key + Up, Down, Left, or Right Arrow : Scroll up, down, left, or 
>> right
>> Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>> Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
>> end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Mário Navarro 
>> To: iphone group 
>> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 5:04 AM
>> Subject: scroll pages with VO on OS mac.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi.
>> 
>> 
>> I'm using an Imac, and I know almost all the commands in VO. ..
>> but I can not  use to scroll pages up and down.
>> for example:
>> How to scroll  a page in HTML content in safari?
>> on windows, use page up and page donw.
>> also I use another kind of commands in windows to go up and down pages.
>> on mac with VO, I can not find a command to do that. and I've tried to 
>> combine multiple commands.
>> Note:
>> as I said before, I know almost all the commands in VO, but up and down 
>> pages I can't find anything on the keyboard manual in VO.
>> 
>> only with the Trackpad that can be possible.
>> 3 fingers up and down scrolls the page.
>> but with the keyboard, I can not do it.
>> any of you know any way to do it?
>> some tips?
>> Thank you all.
>> Cheers.
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Re: KNFB reader and ScanJig stand.

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Liz,

KNFBReader is great for reading print books, especially if you have the Fopydo 
stand with book reading attachment. I can sit in my comfortable armchair with 
the Fopydo on my lap and read a book using KNFBReader on my iPhone SE. The book 
reading attachment for the Fopydo stand means that you can be turning to the 
next double-page while listening to the pages you’ve just scanned.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 13 May 2017, at 11:26, Liz and LD Hope  
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> I want a program that will allow me to read documents such as mail, and I
> want to be able to read a print book.  Is the KNFB Reader good for reading
> books?
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> Liz Ulrich
> and LD Hope
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Re: Automatic language switching on the Mac

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Paul,

It’s probably quicker just to use the voice rotor to get to Rate rather than 
using the other suggestion I have, which is to create an Italian activity where 
you could set the voice and rate. However, if you use Braille, creating an 
activity might be worthwhile as you could include Italian Braille in the 
settings.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 11 Apr 2017, at 14:13, Paul Parravano <pa...@mit.edu> wrote:
> 
> Thank you Anne for this really helpful hint. I switch between english and 
> Italian and have one other question. Since I read more slowly in Italian than 
> in english, is there any way to set the Italian chosen voice to a slower 
> rate? Now I need to switch both the voice and the rate. Would love to 
> eliminate the rate change step.
> 
> Many thanks for any suggestions.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Paul
> 
> 
>> On Apr 11, 2017, at 04:43, Anne Robertson <annefromo...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:annefromo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Afik,
>> 
>> On the Mac, the VO keys are either Control and Option or the Caps Lock key. 
>> So, pressing VO plus the Command key puts you into the VoiceOver Voice 
>> rotor. If you press either the left or the right arrow key, you will 
>> circulate through the various parameters that you can change, such as Rate 
>> or Volume. You should leave this rotor set to Voice, which will say “Voice” 
>> and the name of the voice.
>> You then press VO-Cmd-Down Arrow to change the voice. The first voice you 
>> find will be the voice you used right before the current voice. So, if you 
>> only use Hebrew and English, VO-Cmd-Down Arrow will toggle between these two 
>> languages.
>> I do this all the time between English and French.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 11 Apr 2017, at 09:51, afik Suffir <afik.so...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:afik.so...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Anne,
>>> What do you mean? 
>>> 
>>> נשלח מה-iPhone שלי
>>> 
>>> ‫ב-11 באפר׳ 2017, בשעה 8:58, ‏‏Anne Robertson ‏<annefromo...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:annefromo...@gmail.com>> כתב/ה:‬
>>> 
>>>> Hello Afik,
>>>> 
>>>> You’re right that there’s no automatic language switching on the Mac. 
>>>> However, you can switch languages quickly with VO-Cmd-Down Arrow as long 
>>>> as you always leave the rotor set to Default Voice.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> 
>>>> Anne
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 10 Apr 2017, at 15:34, afik Suffir <afik.so...@gmail.com 
>>>>> <mailto:afik.so...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello all. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have MacBook Air 13 inch. On the iPhone SE that I have when VO read the 
>>>>> text in English the English voice talk, and when its texts in Hebrew  the 
>>>>> Hebrew voice talks. In the Mac, its  not like on the phone. The Hebrew 
>>>>> voice read all, Hebrew, English, and so on, and there is no Automatic 
>>>>> language switching. 
>>>>> I really don’t know why, but I must find a solution because its so 
>>>>> annoying.
>>>>> 
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Re: Automatic language switching on the Mac

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Afik,

On the Mac, the VO keys are either Control and Option or the Caps Lock key. So, 
pressing VO plus the Command key puts you into the VoiceOver Voice rotor. If 
you press either the left or the right arrow key, you will circulate through 
the various parameters that you can change, such as Rate or Volume. You should 
leave this rotor set to Voice, which will say “Voice” and the name of the voice.
You then press VO-Cmd-Down Arrow to change the voice. The first voice you find 
will be the voice you used right before the current voice. So, if you only use 
Hebrew and English, VO-Cmd-Down Arrow will toggle between these two languages.
I do this all the time between English and French.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 11 Apr 2017, at 09:51, afik Suffir <afik.so...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Anne,
> What do you mean? 
> 
> נשלח מה-iPhone שלי
> 
> ‫ב-11 באפר׳ 2017, בשעה 8:58, ‏‏Anne Robertson ‏<annefromo...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:annefromo...@gmail.com>> כתב/ה:‬
> 
>> Hello Afik,
>> 
>> You’re right that there’s no automatic language switching on the Mac. 
>> However, you can switch languages quickly with VO-Cmd-Down Arrow as long as 
>> you always leave the rotor set to Default Voice.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 10 Apr 2017, at 15:34, afik Suffir <afik.so...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:afik.so...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hello all. 
>>> 
>>> I have MacBook Air 13 inch. On the iPhone SE that I have when VO read the 
>>> text in English the English voice talk, and when its texts in Hebrew  the 
>>> Hebrew voice talks. In the Mac, its  not like on the phone. The Hebrew 
>>> voice read all, Hebrew, English, and so on, and there is no Automatic 
>>> language switching. 
>>> I really don’t know why, but I must find a solution because its so annoying.
>>> 
>>> Any ideas? 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Automatic language switching on the Mac

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Afik,

You’re right that there’s no automatic language switching on the Mac. However, 
you can switch languages quickly with VO-Cmd-Down Arrow as long as you always 
leave the rotor set to Default Voice.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 10 Apr 2017, at 15:34, afik Suffir  wrote:
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> 
> Hello all. 
> 
> I have MacBook Air 13 inch. On the iPhone SE that I have when VO read the 
> text in English the English voice talk, and when its texts in Hebrew  the 
> Hebrew voice talks. In the Mac, its  not like on the phone. The Hebrew voice 
> read all, Hebrew, English, and so on, and there is no Automatic language 
> switching. 
> I really don’t know why, but I must find a solution because its so annoying.
> 
> Any ideas? 
> 
> 
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Re: How to enter accented letters on a braille display

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Kimber,

If you add French to your input languages, you can switch to a French keyboard 
to type accented letters on your Braille display.
Go to Settings/General/Keyboards. For some strange reason, the French keyboard 
is called French Medical, and you want the Accented AZERTY one.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 30 Mar 2017, at 14:32, Kimber Gardner  wrote:
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> Hello,
> 
> I have a focus 14 braille display paired with my iPad which I use for
> studying French. My question is how do I enter accented letters using
> the keyboard on the display? Up to now, I've been switching to the
> onscreen keyboard and accessing the alternative character sets when
> necessary but this is time consuming. I'm sure there is a more
> convenient way.
> 
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Re: I can read my Ketonix with the iPhone

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Richard,

Yes, I get that warning. I just used that app because it didn’t use the flash. 
I’m sure almost any colour app will work as long as flash is off since the 
Ketonix is lit from inside.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 8 Mar 2017, at 15:15, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Ann,
> Do you get any warnings about that app slowing down your phone?
> I found it in the app store, it is $.99, but it has not been updated since 
> 2012, requires iOS 4, and if you try to follow the link to the developer web 
> page, you get a message that you don't have permission to access that server.
> But, if it works on the color of LED lights, it may be worth it.
> I had not heard of iColorNamer4.
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> "I'll be more enthusiastic about encouraging thinking outside the box when 
> there's evidence of any thinking going on inside it." - Terry Pratchett
> 
>> On Mar 8, 2017, at 3:23 AM, Anne Robertson <annefromo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Sandy,
>> 
>> The light detector app is just called Light Detector. I’ve had it for years 
>> and it gives the percentage of light which is handy for knowing when to put 
>> the lights on. I put the iPhone camera against the appropriate section of 
>> the Ketonix and the pulsing of the LED was very clear.
>> The colour detector I used is called iColorNamer4. I have no idea when I got 
>> that one as I have a tendency to collect colour identifiers and object 
>> identifiers. Once again, I held the camera against the appropriate section 
>> of the Ketonix which starts out blue, then as you blow into it, it changes 
>> to green, then yellow, then red if you’re in deep ketosis. The iColorNamer4 
>> identified red as brown, but that was good enough for my purpose.
>> There’s a newer version of the Ketonix that puts data onto a computer, but 
>> which computers it works with, I don’t know. In any case, the devices are 
>> available from:
>> www.ketonix.com
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 8 Mar 2017, at 10:16, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
>>> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ann,
>>> This is good news about being able to read the LED status. can you tell me 
>>> which two apps did you use? I.e., which light detector app and which colour 
>>> detector app?
>>> Thanks and well done! Sandy
>>> 
>>> sent from the dark side of the moon
>>> 
>>>> On 7 Mar 2017, at 17:31, Anne Robertson <annefromo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>> 
>>>> On a whim, I decided to see if I could use our Ketonix breath ketone metre 
>>>> without sighted help. It’s the basic model without the computer interface. 
>>>> While charging, it flashes, and the Light Detector app detects the pulses.
>>>> I had to use a colour identifier without using the flash to read the 
>>>> coloured section, but it worked very well.
>>>> So, if anyone else is on a ketogenic diet and would like to check on their 
>>>> ketones, even the basic model of the Ketonix is accessible.
>>>> A ketogenic diet is helpful for anyone with insulin resistance, epilepsy, 
>>>> many inflammatory conditions, or undergoing treatment for most cancers. We 
>>>> bought the Ketonix when my husband was being treated for oesophageal 
>>>> cancer from which he recovered completely.
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> 
>>>> Anne
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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Re: I can read my Ketonix with the iPhone

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Sandy,

The light detector app is just called Light Detector. I’ve had it for years and 
it gives the percentage of light which is handy for knowing when to put the 
lights on. I put the iPhone camera against the appropriate section of the 
Ketonix and the pulsing of the LED was very clear.
The colour detector I used is called iColorNamer4. I have no idea when I got 
that one as I have a tendency to collect colour identifiers and object 
identifiers. Once again, I held the camera against the appropriate section of 
the Ketonix which starts out blue, then as you blow into it, it changes to 
green, then yellow, then red if you’re in deep ketosis. The iColorNamer4 
identified red as brown, but that was good enough for my purpose.
There’s a newer version of the Ketonix that puts data onto a computer, but 
which computers it works with, I don’t know. In any case, the devices are 
available from:
www.ketonix.com

Cheers,

Anne



> On 8 Mar 2017, at 10:16, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> 
> ann,
> This is good news about being able to read the LED status. can you tell me 
> which two apps did you use? I.e., which light detector app and which colour 
> detector app?
> Thanks and well done! Sandy
> 
> sent from the dark side of the moon
> 
>> On 7 Mar 2017, at 17:31, Anne Robertson <annefromo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello everyone,
>> 
>> On a whim, I decided to see if I could use our Ketonix breath ketone metre 
>> without sighted help. It’s the basic model without the computer interface. 
>> While charging, it flashes, and the Light Detector app detects the pulses.
>> I had to use a colour identifier without using the flash to read the 
>> coloured section, but it worked very well.
>> So, if anyone else is on a ketogenic diet and would like to check on their 
>> ketones, even the basic model of the Ketonix is accessible.
>> A ketogenic diet is helpful for anyone with insulin resistance, epilepsy, 
>> many inflammatory conditions, or undergoing treatment for most cancers. We 
>> bought the Ketonix when my husband was being treated for oesophageal cancer 
>> from which he recovered completely.
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> 
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I can read my Ketonix with the iPhone

[Anne Robertson]

Hello everyone,

On a whim, I decided to see if I could use our Ketonix breath ketone metre 
without sighted help. It’s the basic model without the computer interface. 
While charging, it flashes, and the Light Detector app detects the pulses.
I had to use a colour identifier without using the flash to read the coloured 
section, but it worked very well.
So, if anyone else is on a ketogenic diet and would like to check on their 
ketones, even the basic model of the Ketonix is accessible.
A ketogenic diet is helpful for anyone with insulin resistance, epilepsy, many 
inflammatory conditions, or undergoing treatment for most cancers. We bought 
the Ketonix when my husband was being treated for oesophageal cancer from which 
he recovered completely.
Cheers,

Anne




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Re: battery draining need to reboot

[Anne Robertson]

Hello,

This has happpened on my iPhone SE and I know of it happening on an iPhone 5S.
Mine is now working fine again so there is nothing wrong with the battery.
I’ve had iPhones for over 7 years now and this is the first time I’ve had this 
issue with a fairly new phone.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 11 Nov 2016, at 20:48, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
> 
> What iPhone model are we talking about? I've got a 5S and I'm kind of 
> hessitant to update to the latest iOS (it's on iOS 9.3.5 with which it came 
> from factory) and also does this battery drain problem talked about on this 
> thread, is it general on all iOS devices from what you've guys have seen? 
> Will Apple hopefully issue it for iOS 10.2? because if yes, I'll update as 
> soon as iOS 10.2 comes out!
> 
> El 11/11/2016 09:25 a.m., 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone escribió:
>> ann,
>> Was this using iTunes?
>> Thanks, Sandy
>> 
>> sent from the dark side of the moon
>> 
>>> On 11 Nov 2016, at 15:00, Donna  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Anne, yes I did a full restore from factory settings. It didn't solve my 
>>> problem of the battery draining extremely fast!
>>> 
>>> Donna
 Hello Donna,
 
 When you did a complete restore, was that a restore to factory settings 
 followed by reinstalling all your apps? That’s what I had to do to stop 
 the battery drain.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 
> On 11 Nov 2016, at 14:34, Donna  wrote:
> 
> Man oh man! I'm having dramatic battery draining since the latest 
> update!! I've backed up my iPhone 6 twice&  done a complete restore with 
> no resolution. My phone will appear to be completely dead when the 
> battery is 40-50% full. I've done a hard reset many many times. I've 
> turned off the phone&  left it off for up to 15 minutes. I have 
> everything in Location services set to never except find my iPhone. I'm 
> out of ideas!
> 
> Hope you have success in resolving this problem.
> 
> Donna
>> hi, my iPhone 6, after the latest update, is draining rather too fast! I 
>> have made and in cryptic back up on my partners computer, windows, and 
>> I'm now thinking to do a full reset. so, do I do it on the phone which 
>> is called eraise iPhone, or do I do it through iTunes? then, can I 
>> reinstall all my apps and data via that encrypt it back up?
>> 
>> thanks in advance, fingers crossed, Sandy
>> 
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Re: rapid battery drain problem

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Paula,

I reported this issue to Apple Accessibility and they took my crash reports and 
said that there was definitely something strange going on.
Mine is an iPhone SE which was new in June. The problem started with iOS 10.1 
and continued with 10.1.1 but I fixed it both times by restoring to factory 
settings.

Cheers,

Anne



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> Hi, all.  Just wondering, Is this something that should be reported to Apple. 
>  I’m thinking that it’s not an accessibility problem, so to whom should this 
> be reported?  Seems like several of us are having the same issues.  I’m 
> running IOS 10.1.1 on an IPhone 6.
> God bless!
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Re: battery draining need to reboot

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Sandy,

Yes, I used iTunes on my Mac. I do all the app updates on my Mac and keep the 
iPhone backups there, too.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 11 Nov 2016, at 16:25, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
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> ann,
> Was this using iTunes?
> Thanks, Sandy
> 
> sent from the dark side of the moon
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>> On 11 Nov 2016, at 15:00, Donna  wrote:
>> 
>> Anne, yes I did a full restore from factory settings. It didn't solve my 
>> problem of the battery draining extremely fast!
>> 
>> Donna
>>> 
>>> Hello Donna,
>>> 
>>> When you did a complete restore, was that a restore to factory settings 
>>> followed by reinstalling all your apps? That’s what I had to do to stop the 
>>> battery drain.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 11 Nov 2016, at 14:34, Donna  wrote:
 
 Man oh man! I'm having dramatic battery draining since the latest update!! 
 I've backed up my iPhone 6 twice & done a complete restore with no 
 resolution. My phone will appear to be completely dead when the battery is 
 40-50% full. I've done a hard reset many many times. I've turned off the 
 phone & left it off for up to 15 minutes. I have everything in Location 
 services set to never except find my iPhone. I'm out of ideas! 
 
 Hope you have success in resolving this problem. 
 
 Donna
> 
> hi, my iPhone 6, after the latest update, is draining rather too fast! I 
> have made and in cryptic back up on my partners computer, windows, and 
> I'm now thinking to do a full reset. so, do I do it on the phone which is 
> called eraise iPhone, or do I do it through iTunes? then, can I reinstall 
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Re: battery draining need to reboot

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Donna,

When you did a complete restore, was that a restore to factory settings 
followed by reinstalling all your apps? That’s what I had to do to stop the 
battery drain.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 11 Nov 2016, at 14:34, Donna  wrote:
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> Man oh man! I'm having dramatic battery draining since the latest update!! 
> I've backed up my iPhone 6 twice & done a complete restore with no 
> resolution. My phone will appear to be completely dead when the battery is 
> 40-50% full. I've done a hard reset many many times. I've turned off the 
> phone & left it off for up to 15 minutes. I have everything in Location 
> services set to never except find my iPhone. I'm out of ideas! 
> 
> Hope you have success in resolving this problem. 
> 
> Donna
>> 
>> hi, my iPhone 6, after the latest update, is draining rather too fast! I 
>> have made and in cryptic back up on my partners computer, windows, and I'm 
>> now thinking to do a full reset. so, do I do it on the phone which is called 
>> eraise iPhone, or do I do it through iTunes? then, can I reinstall all my 
>> apps and data via that encrypt it back up?
>> 
>> thanks in advance, fingers crossed, Sandy
>> 
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Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Sieghard,

I, too, have had iPhones since June 2009 and this is the first one to crash on 
me. It isn’t as though I don’t use it for much either. I do a lot of reading on 
my iPhone, as well as using OCR, GPS, barcode recognition, Talking Goggles, 
Light Detector, news apps, and so on.
I shut down my iPhone every night, too.
Restoring to factory settings isn’t too bad for me as I back up my iPhone to my 
Mac, so no apps to download.

Cheers,

Anne




> On 4 Nov 2016, at 03:26, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> 
> Lucky for you, you must be the one in a million.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf 
> Of Andy Baracco
> Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2016 7:22 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update
>  
> I have owned an iPhone since the 3GS in 2009, and have never had a crash. 
> Can’t say the same for computers. LOL!
> Andy
>  
> From: Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>
> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 7:02 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update
> There will always be crashes, I recently went to the Apple Store in Calgary 
> because my iPhone 6S Plus shut down several times when I was out and about 
> and when it was a bit colder outside. I keep the iPhone against my body so 
> even when it’s cold and I pull it out the phone is warm and while I could see 
> it shutting off when it’s -30 outside and I keep it out for a longer period 
> of time, it was not even 0 (or 32 as you americans would say). It was a few 
> degrees above 0, so around the mid to high 30’s) and whenever I restarted the 
> phone I would barely put in my PIN when it shut down again. Anyhow, I had 
> iPhones since the 4S in 2010 and none of them has ever done this so I assumed 
> it was maybe a faulty sensor inside the phone. The girl at the Apple Store 
> ran the full diagnostic and said she could see multiple crashes and suggested 
> that it is a good idea to reboot iPhones in general maybe once a week as this 
> helps to avoid certain issues which may arise when a phone has not been 
> rebooted for a very long time. Anyhow, I then upgraded to iOS 10.1.1 and the 
> problem of my phone shutting down persisted so I went back to the Apple 
> Store, explained the issue to a different Apple Genious and he agreed that 
> this sounded strange and since I have Apple Care Plus he replaced my phone. 
> Since this was a warranty replacement and not an accidental damage 
> replacement this didn’t cost me a dime except of course the time it took to 
> get my new phone going again. Since it’s been some time when I set up as a 
> new phone I decided to do this. Calgary is not home so I had brought my 
> laptop and did it at the Apple Store, a very nice guy at the “setup table” 
> helped me throughout the process since I had all my apps on my laptop with 
> the latest updates and thought it would be faster to sync them than to 
> redownload them one by one. Since of course this is not currently possible 
> with Windows, Jaws and iTunes, the Apple guy checked off all the apps I 
> wanted and then got the sync going.
>  
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf 
> Of Anne Robertson
> Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2016 10:25 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update
>  
> Hello Chip,
>  
> I already did the update and it caused the same problem again. I sent the 
> crash log to Apple.
>  
> Cheers,
>  
> Anne
>  
>  
>  
> On 3 Nov 2016, at 18:09, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net 
> <mailto:lists3...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>  
> Sorry, I have the version incorrect in previous message, and I did mean 10.1.1
>  
> Chip
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf 
> Of Chip Orange
> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 1:04 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update
>  
> There is an update to IOS 10.2 available, perhaps you’d like to try this to 
> see if it’s a bug they’ve already fixed?
>  
> Chip
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>

Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Feliciano,

After a restore to factory settings, my phone is behaving perfectly again. So, 
for the time being, I’ll leave it up to Apple to try to figure out what’s going 
on.

Cheers,

Anne


> On 4 Nov 2016, at 03:08, Feliciano Godoy <theblindman...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> At this point, you can delete all the third-party applications and see if the 
> problem still persists. It would be a big sacrifice, but if you want to 
> continue troubleshooting...
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Feliciano
> For tech tips and updates, LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v 
> <http://www.facebook.com/theblindman12v>
> Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v <http://www.twitter.com/theblindman12v>
> 
> On Nov 3, 2016, at 7:02 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca 
> <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
> 
>> There will always be crashes, I recently went to the Apple Store in Calgary 
>> because my iPhone 6S Plus shut down several times when I was out and about 
>> and when it was a bit colder outside. I keep the iPhone against my body so 
>> even when it’s cold and I pull it out the phone is warm and while I could 
>> see it shutting off when it’s -30 outside and I keep it out for a longer 
>> period of time, it was not even 0 (or 32 as you americans would say). It was 
>> a few degrees above 0, so around the mid to high 30’s) and whenever I 
>> restarted the phone I would barely put in my PIN when it shut down again. 
>> Anyhow, I had iPhones since the 4S in 2010 and none of them has ever done 
>> this so I assumed it was maybe a faulty sensor inside the phone. The girl at 
>> the Apple Store ran the full diagnostic and said she could see multiple 
>> crashes and suggested that it is a good idea to reboot iPhones in general 
>> maybe once a week as this helps to avoid certain issues which may arise when 
>> a phone has not been rebooted for a very long time. Anyhow, I then upgraded 
>> to iOS 10.1.1 and the problem of my phone shutting down persisted so I went 
>> back to the Apple Store, explained the issue to a different Apple Genious 
>> and he agreed that this sounded strange and since I have Apple Care Plus he 
>> replaced my phone. Since this was a warranty replacement and not an 
>> accidental damage replacement this didn’t cost me a dime except of course 
>> the time it took to get my new phone going again. Since it’s been some time 
>> when I set up as a new phone I decided to do this. Calgary is not home so I 
>> had brought my laptop and did it at the Apple Store, a very nice guy at the 
>> “setup table” helped me throughout the process since I had all my apps on my 
>> laptop with the latest updates and thought it would be faster to sync them 
>> than to redownload them one by one. Since of course this is not currently 
>> possible with Windows, Jaws and iTunes, the Apple guy checked off all the 
>> apps I wanted and then got the sync going.
>>  
>>  
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On 
>> Behalf Of Anne Robertson
>> Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2016 10:25 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update
>>  
>> Hello Chip,
>>  
>> I already did the update and it caused the same problem again. I sent the 
>> crash log to Apple.
>>  
>> Cheers,
>>  
>> Anne
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> On 3 Nov 2016, at 18:09, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net 
>> <mailto:lists3...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>  
>> Sorry, I have the version incorrect in previous message, and I did mean 
>> 10.1.1
>>  
>> Chip
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On 
>> Behalf Of Chip Orange
>> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 1:04 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: RE: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update
>>  
>> There is an update to IOS 10.2 available, perhaps you’d like to try this to 
>> see if it’s a bug they’ve already fixed?
>>  
>> Chip
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On 
>> Behalf Of Anne Robertson
>> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 5:52 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.c

Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Chip,

I already did the update and it caused the same problem again. I sent the crash 
log to Apple.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 3 Nov 2016, at 18:09, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> Sorry, I have the version incorrect in previous message, and I did mean 10.1.1
>  
> Chip
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf 
> Of Chip Orange
> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 1:04 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update
>  
> There is an update to IOS 10.2 available, perhaps you’d like to try this to 
> see if it’s a bug they’ve already fixed?
>  
> Chip
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf 
> Of Anne Robertson
> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 5:52 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update
>  
> I’m currently doing a complete restore of my iPhone, which means I’ll have to 
> download all the Navigon maps and fix other settings.
> The problem occurred at home with a good connexion to our network. I find it 
> interesting that turning VoiceOver off cures the problem, so the internet 
> connexion couldn’t be the issue.
>  
> Cheers,
>  
> Anne
>  
>  
>  
>> On 30 Oct 2016, at 22:39, Feliciano Godoy <theblindman...@hotmail.com 
>> <mailto:theblindman...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
>>  
>> Are you experiencing this behavior at different locations as well? This type 
>> of behavior also occurs when your phone is looking for service. How how 
>> about if you try to put your phone on airplane mode for an hour or two and 
>> see the battery life difference.
>> 
>> Regards, 
>> Feliciano
>> For tech tips and updates, LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v 
>> <http://www.facebook.com/theblindman12v>
>> Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v <http://www.twitter.com/theblindman12v>
>> 
>> On Oct 30, 2016, at 2:16 PM, Anne Robertson <annefromo...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:annefromo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Feliciano,
>>>  
>>> I already did a reset of my i phone to no effect.
>>>  
>>> Cheers,
>>>  
>>> Anne
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>>> On 30 Oct 2016, at 21:30, Feliciano Godoy <theblindman...@hotmail.com 
>>>> <mailto:theblindman...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>  
>>>> I suggest you reset all settings. This may fix the issue that you're 
>>>> having.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards, 
>>>> Feliciano
>>>> For tech tips and updates, LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v 
>>>> <http://www.facebook.com/theblindman12v>
>>>> Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v 
>>>> <http://www.twitter.com/theblindman12v>
>>>> 
>>>> On Oct 30, 2016, at 12:38 PM, Anne Robertson <annefromo...@gmail.com 
>>>> <mailto:annefromo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hello fellow listers,
>>>>> 
>>>>> After doing the iOS 10.1 update on my 64 GB iPhone SE, I noticed a sudden 
>>>>> excessive battery drain while not using my iPhone.
>>>>> I turned off all background refresh activities for all apps. I left two 
>>>>> apps in the App Switcher: Kobo and Audible.
>>>>> With VoiceOver active but the screen locked, the battery drain was 
>>>>> between 4 and 5% per hour.
>>>>> I then turned VoiceOver off and locked the screen. After an hour, there 
>>>>> was no noticeable battery drain.
>>>>> I Therefore conclude that VoiceOver is draining my battery.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I’ve reported this to Apple Accessibility.
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Anne
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone 
>>>>> list.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or 
>>>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the 
>>>>> owners or moderators directly rather than 

Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

[Anne Robertson]

I’ve been in correspondence with Apple Accessibility about this problem which 
occurred again on updating to iOS 10.1.1. However, this time, turning VoiceOver 
off didn’t fix the problem.
They asked me to send them the crash logs which I did, and they saw that 
VoiceOver had been crashing multiple times and suggested a clean install. I 
had, of course, already done this.
I wonder what it is about my particular phone or setup that is causing this 
problem.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 1 Nov 2016, at 08:52, Fanus <buys.fa...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:buys.fa...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Hello Anne
> Thanks for letting me know. I was hoping not to have to do this. I hear there 
> is a further update IOS10.1.1. I think I’ll install that and see if it maybe 
> fixes the problem.
> Regards
> Fanus
>  
>  
> From: Anne Robertson <>
> Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 8:02 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <>
> Subject: Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update
>  
> Hello Fanus,
>  
> I had to restore my phone to factory settings and reinstall all my apps to 
> fix the problem. My iPhone is now behaving itself beautifully.
>  
> Cheers,
>  
> Anne
>  
>  
>  
>> On 31 Oct 2016, at 15:34, Fanus <buys.fa...@gmail.com <>> wrote:
>>  
>> Hello Anne
>> I experience the same problem with the iPhone 5S. I shall test to see if my 
>> problem is also VO related.
>> Regards
>> Fanus
>>  
>>  
>> From: Anne Robertson <>
>> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 11:51 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <>
>> Subject: Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update
>>  
>> I’m currently doing a complete restore of my iPhone, which means I’ll have 
>> to download all the Navigon maps and fix other settings.
>> The problem occurred at home with a good connexion to our network. I find it 
>> interesting that turning VoiceOver off cures the problem, so the internet 
>> connexion couldn’t be the issue.
>>  
>> Cheers,
>>  
>> Anne
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>> On 30 Oct 2016, at 22:39, Feliciano Godoy <theblindman...@hotmail.com <>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>  
>>> Are you experiencing this behavior at different locations as well? This 
>>> type of behavior also occurs when your phone is looking for service. How 
>>> how about if you try to put your phone on airplane mode for an hour or two 
>>> and see the battery life difference.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Feliciano
>>> For tech tips and updates, LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v 
>>> <http://www.facebook.com/theblindman12v>
>>> Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v 
>>> <http://www.twitter.com/theblindman12v>
>>> 
>>> On Oct 30, 2016, at 2:16 PM, Anne Robertson <annefromo...@gmail.com <>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hello Feliciano,
>>>>  
>>>> I already did a reset of my i phone to no effect.
>>>>  
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>  
>>>> Anne
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>>> On 30 Oct 2016, at 21:30, Feliciano Godoy <theblindman...@hotmail.com <>> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>  
>>>>> I suggest you reset all settings. This may fix the issue that you're 
>>>>> having.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Feliciano
>>>>> For tech tips and updates, LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v 
>>>>> <http://www.facebook.com/theblindman12v>
>>>>> Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v 
>>>>> <http://www.twitter.com/theblindman12v>
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 30, 2016, at 12:38 PM, Anne Robertson <annefromo...@gmail.com <>> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello fellow listers,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> After doing the iOS 10.1 update on my 64 GB iPhone SE, I noticed a 
>>>>>> sudden excessive battery drain while not using my iPhone.
>>>>>> I turned off all background refresh activities for all apps. I left two 
>>>>>> apps in the App Switcher: Kobo and Audible.
>>>>>> With VoiceOver active but the screen locked, the battery drain was 
>>>>>> between 4 and 5% per hour.
>>>>>> I then turned VoiceOver off and locked the screen. After an hour, there 
>>>>>> was no noticeable battery drain.
>>>>>> I Therefore conclude that VoiceOver is dr

Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Sieghard,

No, I didn’t try that, but I turned VoiceOver off and the battery drain 
stopped. I turned it back on again and the battery drain started again, so it 
was VoiceOver causing the problem.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 31 Oct 2016, at 19:22, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> 
> Did you try a Reset Network Settings first, this often will fix battery 
> issues and it leaves all your apps and settings alone, all you have to do is 
> sign back in to your WiFi.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf 
> Of Anne Robertson
> Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 11:03 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update
>  
> Hello Fanus,
>  
> I had to restore my phone to factory settings and reinstall all my apps to 
> fix the problem. My iPhone is now behaving itself beautifully.
>  
> Cheers,
>  
> Anne
>  
>  
>  
> On 31 Oct 2016, at 15:34, Fanus <buys.fa...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:buys.fa...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>  
> Hello Anne
> I experience the same problem with the iPhone 5S. I shall test to see if my 
> problem is also VO related.
> Regards
> Fanus
>  
>  
> From: Anne Robertson
> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 11:51 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update
>  
> I’m currently doing a complete restore of my iPhone, which means I’ll have to 
> download all the Navigon maps and fix other settings.
> The problem occurred at home with a good connexion to our network. I find it 
> interesting that turning VoiceOver off cures the problem, so the internet 
> connexion couldn’t be the issue.
>  
> Cheers,
>  
> Anne
>  
>  
>  
> On 30 Oct 2016, at 22:39, Feliciano Godoy <theblindman...@hotmail.com 
> <mailto:theblindman...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
>  
> Are you experiencing this behavior at different locations as well? This type 
> of behavior also occurs when your phone is looking for service. How how about 
> if you try to put your phone on airplane mode for an hour or two and see the 
> battery life difference.
> 
> Regards, 
> Feliciano
> For tech tips and updates, LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v 
> <http://www.facebook.com/theblindman12v>
> Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v <http://www.twitter.com/theblindman12v>
> 
> On Oct 30, 2016, at 2:16 PM, Anne Robertson <annefromo...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:annefromo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Hello Feliciano,
>  
> I already did a reset of my i phone to no effect.
>  
> Cheers,
>  
> Anne
>  
>  
>  
> On 30 Oct 2016, at 21:30, Feliciano Godoy <theblindman...@hotmail.com 
> <mailto:theblindman...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
>  
> I suggest you reset all settings. This may fix the issue that you're having.
> 
> Regards, 
> Feliciano
> For tech tips and updates, LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v 
> <http://www.facebook.com/theblindman12v>
> Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v <http://www.twitter.com/theblindman12v>
> 
> On Oct 30, 2016, at 12:38 PM, Anne Robertson <annefromo...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:annefromo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Hello fellow listers,
> 
> After doing the iOS 10.1 update on my 64 GB iPhone SE, I noticed a sudden 
> excessive battery drain while not using my iPhone.
> I turned off all background refresh activities for all apps. I left two apps 
> in the App Switcher: Kobo and Audible.
> With VoiceOver active but the screen locked, the battery drain was between 4 
> and 5% per hour.
> I then turned VoiceOver off and locked the screen. After an hour, there was 
> no noticeable battery drain.
> I Therefore conclude that VoiceOver is draining my battery.
> 
> I’ve reported this to Apple Accessibility.
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
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> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> 
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> You

Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Fanus,

I had to restore my phone to factory settings and reinstall all my apps to fix 
the problem. My iPhone is now behaving itself beautifully.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 31 Oct 2016, at 15:34, Fanus <buys.fa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello Anne
> I experience the same problem with the iPhone 5S. I shall test to see if my 
> problem is also VO related.
> Regards
> Fanus
>  
>  
> From: Anne Robertson <>
> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 11:51 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <>
> Subject: Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update
>  
> I’m currently doing a complete restore of my iPhone, which means I’ll have to 
> download all the Navigon maps and fix other settings.
> The problem occurred at home with a good connexion to our network. I find it 
> interesting that turning VoiceOver off cures the problem, so the internet 
> connexion couldn’t be the issue.
>  
> Cheers,
>  
> Anne
>  
>  
>  
>> On 30 Oct 2016, at 22:39, Feliciano Godoy <theblindman...@hotmail.com <>> 
>> wrote:
>>  
>> Are you experiencing this behavior at different locations as well? This type 
>> of behavior also occurs when your phone is looking for service. How how 
>> about if you try to put your phone on airplane mode for an hour or two and 
>> see the battery life difference.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Feliciano
>> For tech tips and updates, LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v 
>> <http://www.facebook.com/theblindman12v>
>> Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v <http://www.twitter.com/theblindman12v>
>> 
>> On Oct 30, 2016, at 2:16 PM, Anne Robertson <annefromo...@gmail.com <>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Feliciano,
>>>  
>>> I already did a reset of my i phone to no effect.
>>>  
>>> Cheers,
>>>  
>>> Anne
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>>> On 30 Oct 2016, at 21:30, Feliciano Godoy <theblindman...@hotmail.com <>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>  
>>>> I suggest you reset all settings. This may fix the issue that you're 
>>>> having.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Feliciano
>>>> For tech tips and updates, LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v 
>>>> <http://www.facebook.com/theblindman12v>
>>>> Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v 
>>>> <http://www.twitter.com/theblindman12v>
>>>> 
>>>> On Oct 30, 2016, at 12:38 PM, Anne Robertson <annefromo...@gmail.com <>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hello fellow listers,
>>>>> 
>>>>> After doing the iOS 10.1 update on my 64 GB iPhone SE, I noticed a sudden 
>>>>> excessive battery drain while not using my iPhone.
>>>>> I turned off all background refresh activities for all apps. I left two 
>>>>> apps in the App Switcher: Kobo and Audible.
>>>>> With VoiceOver active but the screen locked, the battery drain was 
>>>>> between 4 and 5% per hour.
>>>>> I then turned VoiceOver off and locked the screen. After an hour, there 
>>>>> was no noticeable battery drain.
>>>>> I Therefore conclude that VoiceOver is draining my battery.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I’ve reported this to Apple Accessibility.
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Anne
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone 
>>>>> list.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or 
>>>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the 
>>>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn 
>>>>> - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <>
>>>>> 
>>>>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ 
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Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

[Anne Robertson]

I did the Restore phone to factory settings and retrieved all my apps. My phone 
only dropped 5% of battery power in 8 hours.
Problem solved!

Cheers,

Anne



> On 30 Oct 2016, at 22:51, Anne Robertson <annefromo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I’m currently doing a complete restore of my iPhone, which means I’ll have to 
> download all the Navigon maps and fix other settings.
> The problem occurred at home with a good connexion to our network. I find it 
> interesting that turning VoiceOver off cures the problem, so the internet 
> connexion couldn’t be the issue.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> 
>> On 30 Oct 2016, at 22:39, Feliciano Godoy <theblindman...@hotmail.com 
>> <mailto:theblindman...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Are you experiencing this behavior at different locations as well? This type 
>> of behavior also occurs when your phone is looking for service. How how 
>> about if you try to put your phone on airplane mode for an hour or two and 
>> see the battery life difference.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Feliciano
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>> On Oct 30, 2016, at 2:16 PM, Anne Robertson <annefromo...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:annefromo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Feliciano,
>>> 
>>> I already did a reset of my i phone to no effect.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 30 Oct 2016, at 21:30, Feliciano Godoy <theblindman...@hotmail.com 
>>>> <mailto:theblindman...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I suggest you reset all settings. This may fix the issue that you're 
>>>> having.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Feliciano
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>>>> On Oct 30, 2016, at 12:38 PM, Anne Robertson <annefromo...@gmail.com 
>>>> <mailto:annefromo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hello fellow listers,
>>>>> 
>>>>> After doing the iOS 10.1 update on my 64 GB iPhone SE, I noticed a sudden 
>>>>> excessive battery drain while not using my iPhone.
>>>>> I turned off all background refresh activities for all apps. I left two 
>>>>> apps in the App Switcher: Kobo and Audible.
>>>>> With VoiceOver active but the screen locked, the battery drain was 
>>>>> between 4 and 5% per hour.
>>>>> I then turned VoiceOver off and locked the screen. After an hour, there 
>>>>> was no noticeable battery drain.
>>>>> I Therefore conclude that VoiceOver is draining my battery.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I’ve reported this to Apple Accessibility.
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Anne
>>>>> 
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Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

[Anne Robertson]

I’m currently doing a complete restore of my iPhone, which means I’ll have to 
download all the Navigon maps and fix other settings.
The problem occurred at home with a good connexion to our network. I find it 
interesting that turning VoiceOver off cures the problem, so the internet 
connexion couldn’t be the issue.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 30 Oct 2016, at 22:39, Feliciano Godoy <theblindman...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Are you experiencing this behavior at different locations as well? This type 
> of behavior also occurs when your phone is looking for service. How how about 
> if you try to put your phone on airplane mode for an hour or two and see the 
> battery life difference.
> 
> Regards,
> Feliciano
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> On Oct 30, 2016, at 2:16 PM, Anne Robertson <annefromo...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:annefromo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>> Hello Feliciano,
>> 
>> I already did a reset of my i phone to no effect.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 30 Oct 2016, at 21:30, Feliciano Godoy <theblindman...@hotmail.com 
>>> <mailto:theblindman...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I suggest you reset all settings. This may fix the issue that you're having.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Feliciano
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>>> On Oct 30, 2016, at 12:38 PM, Anne Robertson <annefromo...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:annefromo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hello fellow listers,
>>>> 
>>>> After doing the iOS 10.1 update on my 64 GB iPhone SE, I noticed a sudden 
>>>> excessive battery drain while not using my iPhone.
>>>> I turned off all background refresh activities for all apps. I left two 
>>>> apps in the App Switcher: Kobo and Audible.
>>>> With VoiceOver active but the screen locked, the battery drain was between 
>>>> 4 and 5% per hour.
>>>> I then turned VoiceOver off and locked the screen. After an hour, there 
>>>> was no noticeable battery drain.
>>>> I Therefore conclude that VoiceOver is draining my battery.
>>>> 
>>>> I’ve reported this to Apple Accessibility.
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> 
>>>> Anne
>>>> 
>>>> 
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Re: VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Feliciano,

I already did a reset of my i phone to no effect.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 30 Oct 2016, at 21:30, Feliciano Godoy <theblindman...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I suggest you reset all settings. This may fix the issue that you're having.
> 
> Regards,
> Feliciano
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> On Oct 30, 2016, at 12:38 PM, Anne Robertson <annefromo...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:annefromo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>> Hello fellow listers,
>> 
>> After doing the iOS 10.1 update on my 64 GB iPhone SE, I noticed a sudden 
>> excessive battery drain while not using my iPhone.
>> I turned off all background refresh activities for all apps. I left two apps 
>> in the App Switcher: Kobo and Audible.
>> With VoiceOver active but the screen locked, the battery drain was between 4 
>> and 5% per hour.
>> I then turned VoiceOver off and locked the screen. After an hour, there was 
>> no noticeable battery drain.
>> I Therefore conclude that VoiceOver is draining my battery.
>> 
>> I’ve reported this to Apple Accessibility.
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
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VoiceOver draining battery since 10.1 update

[Anne Robertson]

Hello fellow listers,

After doing the iOS 10.1 update on my 64 GB iPhone SE, I noticed a sudden 
excessive battery drain while not using my iPhone.
I turned off all background refresh activities for all apps. I left two apps in 
the App Switcher: Kobo and Audible.
With VoiceOver active but the screen locked, the battery drain was between 4 
and 5% per hour.
I then turned VoiceOver off and locked the screen. After an hour, there was no 
noticeable battery drain.
I Therefore conclude that VoiceOver is draining my battery.

I’ve reported this to Apple Accessibility.
Cheers,

Anne




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Re: Vanishing voice

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Mark,

I reported the problem to Apple even before posting here.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 3 Oct 2016, at 01:36, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:
> 
> Hello Ann,
> 
> I, too, experience the same bug with my beloved Samantha Enhanced, voice.  
> 
> Please send a message to Apple accessibility informing them of this bug. 
> 
> The other day, I restarted my phone, while out and about, and had to wait 
> until I returned home so that I could redownload via WiFi.  
> 
> The strange thing is, in my case anyway, is that when Samantha Enhanced is 
> lost, my phone switches to Tom Enhanced.  (smile).  
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Anne Robertson
> Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2016 2:41 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Vanishing voice
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I use Daniel enhanced as my default voice, but since upgrading to iOS10, 
> Daniel disappears regularly after I power up my iPhone in the morning.
> The Daniel voice is there when I put in my pass code, but the next time I 
> unlock my phone to do something, Daniel has gone and a voice I think is Kate 
> has taken over.
> I have to go into Settings to redownload Daniel enhanced.
> I’ve reported this to Accessibility and I think the problem is a clean-up 
> routine that is too enthusiastic.
> 
> Has anyone else seen this?
> In case it’s relevant, I have an iPhone SE with 64 GB.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
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Vanishing voice

[Anne Robertson]

Hello,

I use Daniel enhanced as my default voice, but since upgrading to iOS10, Daniel 
disappears regularly after I power up my iPhone in the morning.
The Daniel voice is there when I put in my pass code, but the next time I 
unlock my phone to do something, Daniel has gone and a voice I think is Kate 
has taken over.
I have to go into Settings to redownload Daniel enhanced.
I’ve reported this to Accessibility and I think the problem is a clean-up 
routine that is too enthusiastic.

Has anyone else seen this?
In case it’s relevant, I have an iPhone SE with 64 GB.

Cheers,

Anne



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Re: Need Some Navigon Help

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Rob,

I’ve never seen a time limit on new maps for Navigon and I’ve had the app for 7 
years. You can pay for more regular map updates but I don’t bother.
Often, when there’s a major update to the app, all the maps disappear and you 
have to redownload them all.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 1 Oct 2016, at 20:55, Rob <rarmstrl...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> 
> Is there a free update for Navigon maps?  I have had Navigon for several 
> years.  Usually, there is a free map update about once a year.  But I haven't 
> seen any message in the app or any other indication that a map update is 
> available.  Did I miss something?  There is usually a limited time to take 
> the map update free.
> 
> Rob
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Anne Robertson
> Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2016 10:36 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Need Some Navigan Help
> 
> Hello Jed,
> 
> I’m just getting to grips with the new look of Navigon.
> In the Map Manager, no maps are downloaded automatically. You have to 
> double-tap with one finger on each map that you want, then go to the bottom 
> of the list and double-tap on Accept Changes or whatever it says. The 
> selected maps will then start downloading, and beside each will be the amount 
> already downloaded followed by a slash and the full size of the map. Clicking 
> on the Open button must do something visual because all I find is a Close 
> button.
> I had to uninstall and reinstall Navigon to make the Map Manager do its job.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 1 Oct 2016, at 00:27, Jed Barton <jedbar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hey guys,
>> 
>> OK, i am a little confused with navigan.  I ahven't used it in a while. So 
>> when i go to map manager, i see an edit button, and it says files requred, 
>> 220 megs.
>> Then i start flicking through the states and it says for example Alaska, 63 
>> megabites. Does this mean the map is ready to use?
>> Then i get a ways down the list,and it says Arkensaw 0 kilobites /31 
>> megabites, waiting. then i flick over and it says open button.  Can you guys 
>> clarify what is going on, what does the open button mean?
>> I am assuming that every time you launch the program, it's attempting to 
>> download all maps?
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Re: Need Some Navigan Help

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Jed,

I’m just getting to grips with the new look of Navigon.
In the Map Manager, no maps are downloaded automatically. You have to 
double-tap with one finger on each map that you want, then go to the bottom of 
the list and double-tap on Accept Changes or whatever it says. The selected 
maps will then start downloading, and beside each will be the amount already 
downloaded followed by a slash and the full size of the map. Clicking on the 
Open button must do something visual because all I find is a Close button.
I had to uninstall and reinstall Navigon to make the Map Manager do its job.

Cheers,

Anne




> On 1 Oct 2016, at 00:27, Jed Barton  wrote:
> 
> Hey guys,
> 
> OK, i am a little confused with navigan.  I ahven't used it in a while. So 
> when i go to map manager, i see an edit button, and it says files requred, 
> 220 megs.
> Then i start flicking through the states and it says for example Alaska, 63 
> megabites. Does this mean the map is ready to use?
> Then i get a ways down the list,and it says Arkensaw 0 kilobites /31 
> megabites, waiting. then i flick over and it says open button.  Can you guys 
> clarify what is going on, what does the open button mean?
> I am assuming that every time you launch the program, it's attempting to 
> download all maps?
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Re: Some Navigan Help

[Anne Robertson]

I’m sure there used to be a download all button but it seems to have gone.
Beside the name of each map is its size and its current state. If the whole map 
has been downloaded, you just see its size. If it is cued for download, it says 
0 kB / size of map, then Open button, Interrupt download button, Delete map 
button, Progress 0%.
If a map is being downloaded, the 0 kB before the slash will be replaced by the 
amount already downloaded, and the 0% by the percentage of the map downloaded.
My maps are still downloading, so I don’t know if there will be a way of 
knowing that they’re all there.
I have Navigon Europe so there are lots of maps!

Cheers,

Anne



> On 30 Sep 2016, at 14:36, Jed Barton  wrote:
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> Hey guys,
> Is there any way to figure out how all the maps are downloaded in Navigan?  
> It looks really confusing.  Is there like a doanload all in the map manager?
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Re: Talking Goggles talking rubbish

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Anna,

Have you tried it on something with a lot of fancy graphics such as the label 
on a can or bottle? That’s where I’m having problems. It used to just read the 
text, but now it seems to prefer to try to interpret the graphics.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 13 Sep 2016, at 17:30, Woody Anna Dresner <wadres...@att.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I used it about a week ago to find out what was happening on a computer 
> screen when I had no speech. It took a while, but it did read me what was 
> there. So it seems to be functional here.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 13, 2016, at 12:45 AM, Anne Robertson <annefromo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello everyone,
>> 
>> Since a recent update, Talking Goggles has started giving me decidedly weird 
>> information. When trying to check that a bottle contained olive oil, Goggles 
>> started talking about furniture, cars, and all kinds of other unrelated 
>> material before it eventually read me some useful text. It seems to be 
>> interpreting graphics on labels.
>> My sighted husband looked at the bottle of olive oil and couldn’t figure out 
>> what Goggles was seeing.
>> This problem also occurred with a tin of pâtee where Goggles kept talking 
>> about sports cars and steering wheels.
>> This app used to be really useful and now it’s a waste of time.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
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Re: Talking Goggles talking rubbish

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Rob,

I’ve emailed the developpers about the problem. They’ve always been very 
responsive in the past, so I hope they’ll fix the problem.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 13 Sep 2016, at 09:50, 'RobH.' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Sounds like they bought the same recognition engine off of Facebook.
> 
> The continuing progress of bloatware, which will get to the point where it 
> will tell you anything and everything, except the bit you 
> need.  Even now, 99% of what a computer does, has no real bearing on what 
> you're trying to do.  The old DOS did, that was true 
> efficiency.
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Anne Robertson" <annefromo...@gmail.com>
> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 6:45 AM
> Subject: Talking Goggles talking rubbish
> 
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> Since a recent update, Talking Goggles has started giving me decidedly weird 
> information. When trying to check that a bottle 
> contained olive oil, Goggles started talking about furniture, cars, and all 
> kinds of other unrelated material before it eventually 
> read me some useful text. It seems to be interpreting graphics on labels.
> My sighted husband looked at the bottle of olive oil and couldn’t figure out 
> what Goggles was seeing.
> This problem also occurred with a tin of pâtee where Goggles kept talking 
> about sports cars and steering wheels.
> This app used to be really useful and now it’s a waste of time.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
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Talking Goggles talking rubbish

[Anne Robertson]

Hello everyone,

Since a recent update, Talking Goggles has started giving me decidedly weird 
information. When trying to check that a bottle contained olive oil, Goggles 
started talking about furniture, cars, and all kinds of other unrelated 
material before it eventually read me some useful text. It seems to be 
interpreting graphics on labels.
My sighted husband looked at the bottle of olive oil and couldn’t figure out 
what Goggles was seeing.
This problem also occurred with a tin of pâtee where Goggles kept talking about 
sports cars and steering wheels.
This app used to be really useful and now it’s a waste of time.

Cheers,

Anne



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Re: Navigon Update - Good And Bad News

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Sieghard,

The advantage of Navigon is that you can have all the maps stored on the phone 
so that you don’t need a 3G connection to use the app. For us in Europe, this 
is very useful when out of the home country.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 12 Aug 2016, at 21:00, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Apart from the fact that you can download maps to the phone, I am curious 
> what you consider advantages of Navigon over free apps like Apple Maps or 
> Google Maps or paid solutions like the SeeingEye app which has much better 
> accessibility and gives you also a lot of information you won’t get with 
> Navigon. I also bought Navigon when I first got my iPhone 4 in 2010, but I 
> don’t think I have used it in at least 3 or 4 years because of how good Apple 
> Maps and Google Maps are and also because of the fact that I bought a 3-year 
> Seeing-Eye subscription.
>  
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Rob
> Sent: Friday, August 12, 2016 10:45 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Navigon Update - Good And Bad News
>  
> Navigon GPS app recently released version 2.16 update.  This version fixed 
> the problem we had with the previous update.  We can now read the turn by 
> turn list of navigation instructions.  This was broken in the previous update.
>  
> But Navigon has dramatically changed the user interface of the app.  It is 
> now very map centric.  The familiar menu structure is gone.  I think the 
> features are still available, but you will have to explore the various 
> buttons and menus to find them.
>  
> I have only just begun learning the new interface.  So I cannot give any tips 
> yet.
>  
> Rob
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf 
> Of Woody Anna Dresner
> Sent: Friday, August 12, 2016 12:43 PM
> To: VIPhone Mailing List
> Subject: accessible knitting patterns app
>  
> Hi,
>  
> In the past, I've used the Lion Brand app to find knitting patterns. The 
> search was accessible, and I could read the patterns with a braille display. 
> However, this app crashes with iOS 10 betas. Does anyone know of another 
> accessible app for finding and reading knitting patterns? I looked on 
> AppleVis, but there was nothing.
>  
> Thanks,
> Anna
>  
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Re: Amedia Live Reader

[Anne Robertson]

Gordon, I have to disagree with you. For several years now, I have had very 
good results freehand first with Prizmo and now with KNFBReader and I’m totally 
blind. I think what makes the difference is whether we have good spacial 
awareness or not. I was able to see perfectly as a young child, and although 
I’ve seen nothing at all for around 55 years, my visual memory is good. This 
helps me understand how to use apps with the camera.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 1 Jul 2016, at 22:02, Gordan Radić  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Whatever people are saying, I never believed in ferrytales. Blind people 
> acurately scanning text documents on the fly is just a ferrytale to me.
> I managed to get some decent results with KNFB Reader and Textgrabber but 
> those were third or fourth shots in both apps. Giving hundreed bucks for KNFB 
> Reader just to get some partial results is too much for me; fortunately, 
> Textgrabber went free and now has in-app purchases for translations.
> Without a decent phone stand such as Fopydo or something else there's no 
> purpose in acquiring OCR apps and that's my humble opinion.
> 
> S poštovanjem
> Gordan Radić 
>   
>  
>  
>  
> 1.7.2016. u 20:43, Grant je napisao/la:
>> Hi Joe, unfortunately, I couldn’t get Amedia to work reliably. Occasionally, 
>> when my phone’s camera was pointed at a printed page, one or two partial 
>> lines of text would be read aloud, generally in incomplete form. I sought 
>> sighted assistance to make sure that I was in fact aligning the camera and 
>> the document correctly and was told that the image was in fact being 
>> displayed on the screen. I also tried Amedia and KNFB Reader side by side 
>> with two documents, again with sighted assistance,and KNFB performed OCR 
>> correctly whereas Amedia only read a couple lines of garbled text. Like you, 
>> I have some trouble with KNFB Reader also, but in my case I know that’s 
>> because I have difficulty aligning the camera with the page perfectly. I 
>> don’t think there’s any question that you’ll get better results with KNFB 
>> Reader though. For live text recognition, Talking Goggles does a reasonable 
>> enough job so at least you’ll know what document you’re holding. It requires 
>> an internet connection to work, but there’s a free, ad-supported version.
>> 
>> I accessed my receipt for Amedia Live Reader from the iTunes Store and 
>> reported that the app wasn’t functioning for me, but I wasn’t offered a 
>> refund.
>> 
>> Hope this helps,
>> 
>> Grant
>> 
>>> On Friday July 1, 2016, at 8:12:38 AM, Joe >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, what have people's experience been with Amedia Live Reader? The
>>> real-time reading function sounds intriguing, but the price tag gives one
>>> pause. I don't mind the investment though if people can show it's an
>>> effective app. I'm an idiot and cannot seem to make the KNFB Reader app work
>>> wel for me, and yeah, I fully admit this could just be user error. Thanks
>>> for your thoughts in advance.
>>> 
>>> Joe
>>> 
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Re: eBook reader

[Anne Robertson]

Hello David,

In Kobo, you need the page transition to be set to None. Then, once you’ve 
opened a book, find the bottom righthand corner of the screen which should show 
the number of pages in the chapter. Double-tap on this and some other fields 
should appear to the left. One of them is Location in book, which really means 
location in chapter. Double-tapping the arrow field to the right of this takes 
you to the next chapter. Location in book is also where you can advance through 
the chapter should you have been interrupted and you want to find where you 
were. You swipe upward to advance through the pages, and double-tap to go to 
that position. Unfortunately, the position is expressed as a percentage of the 
way through the chapter, but having double-tapped on Location in book, the last 
field will show the page number in the chapter.
To go back a chapter, double-tap on the arrow field two to the left of Location 
in book. I have no idea what the field just to the left of Location in book 
does.
To make the toolbar containing iPhone Contents etc disappear, you need to 
double-tap twice somewhere in the middle of the screen, and you do the same 
thing to make it appear again. Sometimes, I have to turn VoiceOver off to get 
this to work.

Just ask me if you have any other questions as Kobo is probably the app I use 
most. I have over 400 books in my Kobo library so I have lots of experience 
with it.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 23 Jun 2016, at 12:18, David Renstrom <david.renst...@synutveckling.se> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Anne,
>  
> Thanks for the tip. The Kobo app seems to be fairly accessible. Switching 
> between chapters seems a little bit troublesome though, at least in the book 
> previews I’ve tried. I seem to have to go back to the table of contents and 
> choose the next chapter. But I’ve only spent about 30 minutes with the app so 
> I’ll have to investigate further.
>  
> Thanks again,
> /David R.
> David Renström
> Synutveckling Skellefteå AB
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> Från: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] För Anne 
> Robertson
> Skickat: den 23 juni 2016 11:46
> Till: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Ämne: Re: eBook reader
>  
> Hello David,
>  
> Have you tried the Kobo app? I can assure you that it’s accessible and should 
> work with Adobe DRM content.
>  
> Cheers,
>  
> Anne
>  
>  
>  
> On 23 Jun 2016, at 11:26, David Renstrom <david.renst...@synutveckling.se 
> <mailto:david.renst...@synutveckling.se>> wrote:
>  
> Hi Alan,
>  
> No, I’m sorry but the Adobe Digital Editions app is not fully accessible. I 
> tried it yesterday and the book content is not readable with VoiceOver. So 
> it’s similar to Bluefire.
>  
> Thanks,
> /David R.
> David Renström
> Synutveckling Skellefteå AB
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> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] För Alan 
> Lemly
> Skickat: den 22 juni 2016 22:28
> Till: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Ämne: RE: eBook reader
>  
> David,
>  
> I have no experience regarding accessibility with VoiceOver of eReaders that 
> work with books requiring an Adobe ID but have you tried the Adobe Digital 
> Editions app? The Apps Store description says it works with Adobe DRM content 
> so I assume it will work with your books provided it is accessible.
>  
> Alan Lemly
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
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> Of David Renstrom
> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 4:33 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: eBook reader
>  
> Hi,
>  
> I would like to read eBooks which require an Adobe ID. The recommended app is 
> Bluefire. However, this app is not accessible, i.e. it’s not possible to read 
> the text itself even though most controls are usable. I’ve also tried Voice 
> Dream Reader but it doesn’t seem to support Adobe ID.
>  
> Has anyone got a tip for a eBook reader that works with VoiceOver?
>  
> Thanks,
> /David R.
> David Renström
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Re: eBook reader

[Anne Robertson]

Hello David,

Have you tried the Kobo app? I can assure you that it’s accessible and should 
work with Adobe DRM content.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 23 Jun 2016, at 11:26, David Renstrom  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Alan,
>  
> No, I’m sorry but the Adobe Digital Editions app is not fully accessible. I 
> tried it yesterday and the book content is not readable with VoiceOver. So 
> it’s similar to Bluefire.
>  
> Thanks,
> /David R.
> David Renström
> Synutveckling Skellefteå AB
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> Från: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com ] För Alan 
> Lemly
> Skickat: den 22 juni 2016 22:28
> Till: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Ämne: RE: eBook reader
>  
> David,
>  
> I have no experience regarding accessibility with VoiceOver of eReaders that 
> work with books requiring an Adobe ID but have you tried the Adobe Digital 
> Editions app? The Apps Store description says it works with Adobe DRM content 
> so I assume it will work with your books provided it is accessible.
>  
> Alan Lemly
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf 
> Of David Renstrom
> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 4:33 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: eBook reader
>  
> Hi,
>  
> I would like to read eBooks which require an Adobe ID. The recommended app is 
> Bluefire. However, this app is not accessible, i.e. it’s not possible to read 
> the text itself even though most controls are usable. I’ve also tried Voice 
> Dream Reader but it doesn’t seem to support Adobe ID.
>  
> Has anyone got a tip for a eBook reader that works with VoiceOver?
>  
> Thanks,
> /David R.
> David Renström
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Re: eBook reader

[Anne Robertson]

You could try Kobo. Kobo books are readable with Adobe Digital Editions on the 
Mac. Kobo is actually my favourite ebook reader on the iPhone.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 22 Jun 2016, at 11:33, David Renstrom  
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> Hi,
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> Bluefire. However, this app is not accessible, i.e. it’s not possible to read 
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> Dream Reader but it doesn’t seem to support Adobe ID.
>  
> Has anyone got a tip for a eBook reader that works with VoiceOver?
>  
> Thanks,
> /David R.
> David Renström
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Re: Scanning Stands

[Anne Robertson]

I also found the Fopydo stand easy to assemble once I understood the principal 
and have taught several other people how to assemble theirs.
I have the StandScan Pro and the Giraffe, too, but my favourite is the Fopydo.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 14 Jun 2016, at 06:19, Richard Turner  > wrote:
> 
> 
> Interesting. I did not find it that hard to assemble. That just proves that 
> one size does not fit all.
> But, I'd also tried several other stands that were harder to put together.
> Richard
> 
> 
> "The problem with people who have no vices is that you can be pretty sure  
> they are going to have some pretty  annoying virtues." – Elizabeth Taylor
> 
> (Sent from my iPod 6)
> 
> On Jun 13, 2016, at 8:21 PM, Jewel  > wrote:
> 
>> I have reservations as to the ease of assembling the Fopydo stand.
>> I gave it to a guy to assemble, and he had to call upon the assistance of 
>> his nextdoor neighbour, and even with 2 experienced adult males working on 
>> it, it was not easy.
>> However, once that mammoth task was completed, I will say that I am very 
>> please with it.
>> I think that it can be folded flat if one wants to travel with it, but I 
>> haven't had the nerve to give it a go, having in mind how difficult it was 
>> to put together in the first place.
>>  
>>  Jewel
>>  
>> From: Victor Gouveia 
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 1:31 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Scanning Stands
>> 
>> Hi Folks,
>>  
>> I curse myself for not saving it now, but alas, now is when I need the 
>> information the most.  LOL.
>>  
>> Does anyone have a list of the various stands available for scanning using 
>> the iPhone?
>>  
>> I’m referring to scanning apps such as the KNFB Reader, or document scanning 
>> apps and QR Code and the like.
>>  
>> I have a friend who can’t seem to get her iPhone to pick anything up, 
>> regardless of how close, or far she is from the page.
>>  
>> I’m suggesting it may be the way she’s facing the camera, or possibly a 
>> tremble in her hands, but I recommended she get one of the stands currently 
>> available.
>>  
>> I seem to recall something about a Capito or Capeto Scanner stand or 
>> something that was fairly easy to put together.
>>  
>> So, if anyone has a list of such a king, I would really appreciate getting 
>> that list.
>>  
>> Thanks.
>>  
>> Victor
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Re: Fobydo Stand

[Anne Robertson]

One of the things I love about the Fopydo stand with book reading aid is that I 
can have it on my lap while reading a book. It takes all the strain out of 
holding the iPhone steady and getting the distance from the book right every 
time.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 26 May 2016, at 16:35, deidre muccio  wrote:
> 
> I just went to the Fobydo site to read about the construction 
> of the stand. It will tell you all you need to know and do. The stand is way 
> more than I want. I am already out of my mind with computer related 
> equipment, which is why I love my phone.  All I want is something streamlined 
> that will simply hold a page or paper down and hold the camera above it, as 
> perhaps on a slim wire frame. Even a clipboard for papers could do for single 
> sheets of paper.I'm getting pretty good accuracy with fairly 
> predictable laid out texts so I am not too worried about accuracy at this 
> point just holding the phone and not even having the papers always on a level 
> surface or dark background. I haven't needed a light source either other than 
> the built in flash. I have something in my kitchen that I think can do the 
> job: It's a wire frame to an old hand mashing fruit funnel shaped mill that 
> is a good height! 
> I suppose if someone has a nice work station and plenty of 
> room to have the Fobydo stand always at the ready, that would be great.
>  
> Deidre
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf 
> Of Richard Turner
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: Standscan, Fopydo Book Reading Aid, ScanJig Pro Plus?
>  
> you can get it from Amazon or the Fopydo site. I'll copy both links below:
> Amazon:
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B019RDEB4G/ref=dp_olp_new_mbc?ie=UTF8=new
>  
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>  
>  
> Fopydo site:
> http://fopydo.com/bookreadingaid 
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Re: question virus on mac java

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Gianni,

MacKeeper invents viruses that don’t actually exist. There are utilities such 
as Mac App Cleaner that will get rid of MacKeeper completely and everything 
should return to normal.
The only virus scanner I use on my Mac is ClamXAV and only to scan files I 
share with Windows users. I’ve had Macs for 20 years and never encountered a 
virus.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 25 May 2016, at 23:25, Gianni  wrote:
> 
> Hi friends,
> When I open safari on the mac I sometimes get the message that there is a 
> virus on my mac. I need to install a virus scanner. All sorts of windows with 
> games open up. 
> I went to my terminal and tried to get the mackeeper shit off of my mac. I 
> think that worked with this command:
> sudo rm -rf /Library/Preferences/.3FAD0F65-FC6E-4889-B975-B96CBF807B78 && 
> sudo rm -rf /tmp/*mackeeper*
> 
> But now java pomps up in my safari and says I have a virus. What can I do. 
> What do zou guys use to get virussen away?
> 
> 
> 
> Gianni
> 
> Skype: giannijuve
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Standscan, Fopydo Book Reading Aid, ScanJig Pro Plus?

[Anne Robertson]

The Fopydo book-reading aid does a great job of keeping a book open and you’re 
not obliged to use KNFBReader for scanning if your book has a complex layout.
I’ve scanned books with complex medical and scientific language using the 
Fopydo with excellent results.
Cheers,

Anne



> On 26 May 2016, at 07:39, Jeremy  wrote:
> 
> If you're looking for accuracy in your scanned books, you should probably 
> stick with a flat bed scanner and K1000 or OpenBook. I've tried to scan a 
> textbook page with KNFB reader, and it just wasn't practical to use this 
> method to scan the book. I did not try any scanning aids, but I doubt it will 
> make much of a difference when it comes to a textbook as the level of 
> accuracy and fidelity should be much higher for a textbook than a novel. 
> Maybe you'll get good results in near perfect conditions, but you're asking a 
> bit much for this type of app if you think you can use it to scan and read a 
> textbook. 
> 
> JR 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> rex wisdom
> Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 10:07 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Standscan, Fopydo Book Reading Aid, ScanJig Pro Plus?
> 
> Where cone the Fopydo Book Reading Aid purchased?
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> englishride...@gmail.com
> Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 12:05 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Standscan, Fopydo Book Reading Aid, ScanJig Pro Plus?
> 
> 
> 
> Yes, that's correct.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Ari
> 
> 
> On May 25, 2016, at 9:37 PM, James Lee  wrote:
> 
>   Thank you both for the responses.
>   Fopydo Book Reading Aid, can be also used for print sheets, not just 
> bound book?
>   Thanks,
>   On Wednesday, May 25, 2016 at 9:05:04 PM UTC-4, Richard Turner wrote:
> 
>
> 
>   In my opinion, the Fopydo Stand with Book Reading Aid is the best bet 
> for books.
> 
>   The ScanJig Pro Plus can be used with books, but it won't help you keep 
> the pages open the way the Fopydo system does.
> 
>   Richard
> 
>
> 
>   “The problem with people who have no vices is that generally you can be 
> pretty sure they're going to have some pretty annoying virtues.”
> 
>   Elizabeth Taylor
> 
>   (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
> 
>   
>   On May 25, 2016, at 5:35 PM, James Lee   > wrote:
> 
>   Hi,
>   
>   Could you let us know What are pros and cons for these devices?
>   Primarily interested in reading books with KNFB reader for 
> school.
>   Thanks,
>   
>   JL
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Re: How Do You Use iOS?

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Mark,

I use Messages, Weather, Calendar, and FaceTime.
For reading ebooks, my favourite app is Kobo as it reads straight through a 
chapter then stops. Also, it doesn’t make those page-turning noises that Kindle 
does, and doesn’t hyphenate inappropriately which Kindle does. It also works 
well with my Focus 14 Braille display.
I do use Kindle when I can’t get a book on Kobo, but I rarely, but 
occasionally, use iBooks for ebooks, but mostly for Audible books.
An app I can’t live without is Talking Goggles. I use it to identify cans in my 
kitchen. Many of the products I buy are from small organic French producers and 
are not on the barcode databases, making Digit-Eyes and other barcode scanners 
useless.
For GPS, I use BlindSquare and Navigon.
For sharing notes with my Mac, I use Simple Note for iOS with Notational 
Velocity for OS X. I don’t use iCloud which is why I don’t use the native Notes 
apps for this. When I say I don’t use iCloud, I mean for my personal use. I 
share an iCloud with my husband so that we can sync our calendars.
For OCR, I use KNFBReader, but I still have several other apps just in case.
I used to use Money Reader but it’s no longer useful here in the Euro zone.
I also use the Camera app with variable results since I have no sight at all.
And since I have no light perception, I also use Light Detector to know when to 
put the lights on.
I like BBC News for catching up with news stories, and TweetList for Twitter, 
but I hardly ever tweet.

I prefer to use my Mac for web browsing, Mail, listening to podcasts and word 
processing. I find it much more efficient.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 30 Apr 2016, at 10:55, rajmund  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mark,
> Well, OK, here we go.
> IMessage, self explaining.  FaceTimeime, again, self explaining.  I also have 
> hangouts installed, which is pretty handy, if someone just wants to get ahold 
> of me.
> Have games such as dice world, although I must admit, I'm not the most 
> heaviest app user.  Have things like messinger, faceBook, tune in radio, 
> twitter, but they are not uand that often.
> 
> Sent from a BrailleNote
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "M.  Taylor"  To:  Date sent: Sat, 30 Apr 2016 00:34:21 -0700
> Subject: RE: How Do You Use iOS?
> 
> I just want to thank you all for contributing to this thread.
> 
> Honestly, I cannot stop smiling when I read your lists of apps and discover 
> all of the various ways you use them.
> 
> To those who have not yet posted, please remember that you do not need to 
> list only apps that have not yet been mentioned; just list the apps that you 
> use and how you use them if they are not self-explanatory.
> 
> Personally, I am making a list of all of the marvelous apps you have brought 
> to my attention that I have not yet explored.
> 
> From the bottom of my heart, I thank you and, let's keep 'em coming.  (Big, 
> Big, Smile).
> 
> Mark
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 9:53 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: How Do You Use iOS?
> 
> Nice list, Mark, here are a few more I use although some of them require 
> hardware:
> 
> Sonos - requires Sonos music players, I think it's been discussed here enough 
> so I don't have to go into more details as to what exactly the Sonos system 
> does, if somebody doesn't know and wants to know go to www.sonos.com and 
> check the list archives for "Sonos" related posts.
> 
> Netatmo: requires the Netatmo weather station
> 
> Thermostat: requires the Wi-Fi capable thermostat from www.RadioThermostat.com
> 
> Nuheat: requires in-floor electric heating mats from Nuheat (the kind that 
> are installed underneath tile floors.  The app allows me to control the 
> thermostats connected to each mat/room that has it, in my case two bathrooms 
> and my kitchen.
> 
> Nest: I use it not for thermostat, but I purchased 5 Dropcam Pro a couple of 
> years ago for security cameras for my retail store.  Dropcam was then 
> purchased by Nest and the Dropcam app was replaced with the Nest app.  Of 
> course the video feed is useless to me directly, but the cameras also 
> transmit audio and you can press a button in the app and speak through the 
> camera.
> 
> CBC News for Canadian news and Weather Office for Canadian weather
> 
> Google: That is the Google search app which also has those Google Now cards..
> 
> Transit: Gives youtransit information for many cities
> 
> Parcel: for parcel tracking
> 
> Whats App: one of the social media apps I use in addition to Skype, fAcebook 
> and Messenger
> 
> Roboform: Mark mentioned another password manager, I have been a Roboform 
> user for many years and for $20 a year I get the Roboform Everywhere service 
> which means my passcards and SafeNotes are available on any of my 5 work and 
> home PC's and my iPhone.
> 
> Mark 

Re: accessibility apps

[Anne Robertson]

Looktel Money Reader hasn’t been updated for almost 18 months and doesn’t 
recognise the new Euro notes. I’m really fed up about this as I sent them the 
images for one of the notes. I haven’t bothered with the other since they 
haven’t done anything about the first one.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 28 Apr 2016, at 16:30, Keith B.  wrote:
> 
> I purchased the LookTel Money Reader. It cost $10 at the time, but it is 
> faster and seems much more consistent than EyeNote in identifying currency. 
> For me, it was well worth the investment. I think it also recognizes some 
> international currency, but don't quote me on that.On Thursday, April 28, 
> 2016 at 7:43:30 AM UTC-5, Chip Orange wrote:
> And worth every penny! (that is, I find it often fails to recognize currency, 
> especially in less than perfect lighting conditions). 
> 
> I was trying to recognize some bills while I was in process of getting 
> dressed, and it failed every one ... until I realized I had the light off in 
> the closet, and evidently it has no flash capabilities (just an FYI for 
> others having difficulties). 
> 
> Chip 
> 
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: vip...@googlegroups.com  [mailto:vip...@googlegroups.com 
> ] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain 
> Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 7:58 AM 
> To: vip...@googlegroups.com  
> Subject: Re: accessibility apps 
> 
> No, it comes from the US Bureau of Engraving and Printing, so it's only 
> going to work with US currency. On the upside, it's free. 
> 
> On 28/04/16 02:54, Gordan Radić wrote: 
> > Hi, now it's clearer. 
> > Can this app be trained to recognize other currencies besides USD? 
> > 
> > S poštovanjem 
> > *Gordan Radić*  
> > 
> > Posjetite-portal-Nemoguća-vizija  > > 
> > 
> > Pišite nam  Posjetitenas 
> > na Facebooku 
> > > 
> > Pratite nas na Twitteru 
> > > 
> > 
> > 27.4.2016. u 11:38, Christopher Chaltain je napisao/la: 
> >> First, it's spelled EyeNote. It's from the Bureau of Printing and 
> >> Engraving, and it'll recognize paper US currency. The link to it in 
> >> the App Store is https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/eyenote/id405336354?mt=8 
> >>  
> >> 
> >> On 27/04/16 02:14, Gordan Radić wrote: 
> >>> Hi, Donna! 
> >>> Can you share some more details on iNote? 
> >>> I tried to search for it in App Store but with no luck. 
> >>> Thanks! 
> >>> 
> >>> S poštovanjem 
> >>> *Gordan Radić*  
> >>> 
> >>> Posjetite-portal-Nemoguća-vizija  >>> > 
> >>> 
> >>> Pišite nam  Posjetitenas na 
> >>> Facebooku 
> >>> > 
> >>> Pratite nas na Twitteru 
> >>> > 
> >>> 
> >>> 26.4.2016. u 22:28, Donna je napisao/la: 
>  
>  
>  Hi Juan 
>  
>  I hope my information for your research project isn't too late. 
>  
>  I use camfind to identify objects and colors. 
>  
>  I use KNFB Reader to scan and read my mail and other printed material. 
>  
>  I'm new to learning braille, so my app of choice is Braille Reference. 
>  
>  I use Voicedream and Bard mobile to listen to books. 
>  
>  I use iNote to identify paper currency. 
>  
>  I use Wells Fargo for my banking. 
>  
>  I use the native mail app which comes installed on the iPhone for 
>  email. 
>  
>  I use tunein radio to stream local radio stations and the YouTube app 
>  for videos. 
>  
>  I use Facebook app or Safari's mobile site for social media. 
>  
>  I have a lot of other apps that I use, the above apps are the ones I 
>  use most often. 
>  
>  If you need more information or links to the above apps, feel free to 
>  contact me. 
>  
>  Donna 
>  
>  
>  
>  Hi All, 
> > 
> > I am doing some research for a company project. 
> > 
> > Can you guys off list, email me what apps you use for anything having 
> > to do for accessibility, ocr, object identification, navigat ion, etc 
> > etc.  Things like tap tap see, be my eyes, etc. 
> > 
> > Thanks, I really appreciate it. 
> > 
> > Best 
> > 
> > Juan 
> > 
> > Juan Hernandez 
> > 
> > Email: juanher...@gmail.com   > > 
> > 
> > Mobile:  619-750-9431 
> > 
> > Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/blindwiz 
> >  
> > 
> > Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/blindwiz 
> > 

Re: Has anyone used the nook app with the iPhone?

[Anne Robertson]

Kobo books were accessible before Nook, but they became inaccessible for about 
a year, and then they were accessible again. They then became inaccessible 
again for about a year once more, and now they’re accessible once more on the 
iPhone, but not so much on the iPad.
I like Kobo because I can read them on my iPhone and my Mac. The Kobo app isn’t 
accessible on the Mac, but Adobe Digital Editions reads them fine on the Mac.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 1 Apr 2016, at 22:43, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I really like nook, because they were the first one other than iBooks to 
> become accessible. But they can't compete with Kindle on price and out reach.

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Re: tips on using KNFB reader

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Paul,

Whether the Fopydo is the best choice for your needs is a matter of personal 
choice.
The Fopydo does not have its own lighting, but it folds away neatly, is very 
adjustable for height and works with any smart phone. It’s by far the best 
solution for reading books.
The StandScan Pro has its own lighting, folds away neatly, works with any smart 
phone but is somewhat limited in the size of paper that will fit inside it.
The Giraffe Reader is the smallest and lightest of the stands, but is made to 
fit a specific iPhone and is very limited as to the size of paper that works 
with it.

These are the stands I own, and for me, the Fopydo is my favourite.

Cheers,

Anne


> On 24 Feb 2016, at 13:47, Paul Parravano <pa...@mit.edu> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Anne for your very helpful observations about this item. If I only 
> read documents and pieces that are only a few pages or less, and not books, 
> will the stand be sufficient? Is it still the best item for this kind of 
> reading?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Paul
> 
> 
>> On Feb 24, 2016, at 07:01, Anne Robertson <annefromo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Sandy,
>> 
>> The book reading aid is the device I’ve been wanting for as long as I’ve had 
>> OCR on the iPhone. I can sit in an armchair with the Fopydo on my lap and a 
>> book open in front of me and read comfortably. The StandScan Pro needs to 
>> sit on a firm base, and there’s nothing to hold a book open properly.
>> 
>> These days, I hardly ever use a flatbed scanner since the Fopydo and the 
>> iPhone are so convenient to use.
>> 
>> So, in my opinion, the Fopydo with Book Reading Aid is the best scanning and 
>> OCR solution.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 24 Feb 2016, at 11:21, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
>>> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> hi Anne,
>>> just wanting your opinion here: I have a stand scan pro and find it very 
>>> usable portable et cetera, but because people seem so happy with the book 
>>> reading aid of the foPydo device, I am considering purchasing it. do you 
>>> think the book reading aid is so good that it outweighs the fact that there 
>>> is no lighting provided with this stand? I don't wish to purchase extra 
>>> things unless they will provide me with increased functionality. so, in 
>>> short, is the book reading aid plus stand a deal breaker?
>>> 
>>> thanks in advance for your words of wisdom,
>>> Sandy
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On 22 Feb 2016, at 21:07, Anne Robertson <annefromo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> The Fopydo stand wasn’t originally designed for blind people so it looks 
>>>> modern and is made of modern materials. The Book Reading Aid was designed 
>>>> for us and, in my opinion, it’s the best solution for reading print books.
>>>> 
>>>> I wish this kind of thing had existed forty years ago when I was doing my 
>>>> degree, but back then, iPhones, and even laptop computers, were the stuff 
>>>> of science fiction.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> 
>>>> Anne
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 22 Feb 2016, at 21:16, Dionipher Herrera <dionip...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> how dows the stand look like? because i don’t wan’t to look like nerd 
>>>>> when i’m in school.
>>>>>> Il giorno 22 feb 2016, alle ore 17:14, Larry Lumpkin 
>>>>>> <llump...@austin.rr.com> ha scritto:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> no
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>>>>> Behalf Of Chris Chaffin
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 22, 2016 10:12 AM
>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: tips on using KNFB reader
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Does the Fopydo Stand have built in lights?
>>>>>> Just asking because I know light can have a big effect on OCR results.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Chris Chaffin
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Feb 22, 2016, at 7:16 AM, Anne Robertson <annefromo...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>

Re: tips on using KNFB reader

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Sandy,

The book reading aid is the device I’ve been wanting for as long as I’ve had 
OCR on the iPhone. I can sit in an armchair with the Fopydo on my lap and a 
book open in front of me and read comfortably. The StandScan Pro needs to sit 
on a firm base, and there’s nothing to hold a book open properly.

These days, I hardly ever use a flatbed scanner since the Fopydo and the iPhone 
are so convenient to use.

So, in my opinion, the Fopydo with Book Reading Aid is the best scanning and 
OCR solution.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 24 Feb 2016, at 11:21, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> 
> hi Anne,
> just wanting your opinion here: I have a stand scan pro and find it very 
> usable portable et cetera, but because people seem so happy with the book 
> reading aid of the foPydo device, I am considering purchasing it. do you 
> think the book reading aid is so good that it outweighs the fact that there 
> is no lighting provided with this stand? I don't wish to purchase extra 
> things unless they will provide me with increased functionality. so, in 
> short, is the book reading aid plus stand a deal breaker?
> 
> thanks in advance for your words of wisdom,
> Sandy
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 22 Feb 2016, at 21:07, Anne Robertson <annefromo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> The Fopydo stand wasn’t originally designed for blind people so it looks 
>> modern and is made of modern materials. The Book Reading Aid was designed 
>> for us and, in my opinion, it’s the best solution for reading print books.
>> 
>> I wish this kind of thing had existed forty years ago when I was doing my 
>> degree, but back then, iPhones, and even laptop computers, were the stuff of 
>> science fiction.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 22 Feb 2016, at 21:16, Dionipher Herrera <dionip...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> how dows the stand look like? because i don’t wan’t to look like nerd when 
>>> i’m in school.
>>>> Il giorno 22 feb 2016, alle ore 17:14, Larry Lumpkin 
>>>> <llump...@austin.rr.com> ha scritto:
>>>> 
>>>> no
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>>> Of Chris Chaffin
>>>> Sent: Monday, February 22, 2016 10:12 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: tips on using KNFB reader
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Does the Fopydo Stand have built in lights?
>>>> Just asking because I know light can have a big effect on OCR results.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> Chris Chaffin
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 22, 2016, at 7:16 AM, Anne Robertson <annefromo...@gmail.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello Dionipher,
>>>>> 
>>>>> The easiest way to get good results every time with KNFBReader is to buy 
>>>>> the Fopydo stand with Book Reading Aid. It holds the phone in exactly the 
>>>>> right position for the book or sheet of paper, and the Book Reading Aid 
>>>>> holds the book open so that you can scan both pages at once. You need to 
>>>>> set the Document Type to Multiple Columns when scanning books.
>>>>> The Fopydo is lightweight and folds almost flat. It’s easy to carry in a 
>>>>> backpack and quick to assemble.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Anne
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 22 Feb 2016, at 12:47, Dionipher Herrera <dionip...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Good morning guys, i would like to ask some tips on using the KNFB 
>>>>>> reader, because i use it in the school, how do i get a good result 
>>>>>> because when i tried tapping field of view report. a lot of times it 
>>>>>> says got nothing. thanks.
>>>>>> 
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Re: tips on using KNFB reader

[Anne Robertson]

The Fopydo stand wasn’t originally designed for blind people so it looks modern 
and is made of modern materials. The Book Reading Aid was designed for us and, 
in my opinion, it’s the best solution for reading print books.

I wish this kind of thing had existed forty years ago when I was doing my 
degree, but back then, iPhones, and even laptop computers, were the stuff of 
science fiction.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 22 Feb 2016, at 21:16, Dionipher Herrera <dionip...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> how dows the stand look like? because i don’t wan’t to look like nerd when 
> i’m in school.
>> Il giorno 22 feb 2016, alle ore 17:14, Larry Lumpkin 
>> <llump...@austin.rr.com> ha scritto:
>> 
>> no
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Chris Chaffin
>> Sent: Monday, February 22, 2016 10:12 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: tips on using KNFB reader
>> 
>> 
>> Does the Fopydo Stand have built in lights?
>> Just asking because I know light can have a big effect on OCR results.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Chris Chaffin
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 22, 2016, at 7:16 AM, Anne Robertson <annefromo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Dionipher,
>>> 
>>> The easiest way to get good results every time with KNFBReader is to buy 
>>> the Fopydo stand with Book Reading Aid. It holds the phone in exactly the 
>>> right position for the book or sheet of paper, and the Book Reading Aid 
>>> holds the book open so that you can scan both pages at once. You need to 
>>> set the Document Type to Multiple Columns when scanning books.
>>> The Fopydo is lightweight and folds almost flat. It’s easy to carry in a 
>>> backpack and quick to assemble.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 22 Feb 2016, at 12:47, Dionipher Herrera <dionip...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Good morning guys, i would like to ask some tips on using the KNFB reader, 
>>>> because i use it in the school, how do i get a good result because when i 
>>>> tried tapping field of view report. a lot of times it says got nothing. 
>>>> thanks.
>>>> 
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Re: tips on using KNFB reader

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Dionipher,

The easiest way to get good results every time with KNFBReader is to buy the 
Fopydo stand with Book Reading Aid. It holds the phone in exactly the right 
position for the book or sheet of paper, and the Book Reading Aid holds the 
book open so that you can scan both pages at once. You need to set the Document 
Type to Multiple Columns when scanning books.
The Fopydo is lightweight and folds almost flat. It’s easy to carry in a 
backpack and quick to assemble.

Cheers,

Anne


> On 22 Feb 2016, at 12:47, Dionipher Herrera  wrote:
> 
> Good morning guys, i would like to ask some tips on using the KNFB reader, 
> because i use it in the school, how do i get a good result because when i 
> tried tapping field of view report. a lot of times it says got nothing. 
> thanks.
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Re: Fopydo with book reading aid is great

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Paul,

The StandScan is great for documents that lie flat, but there is nothing to 
compare with the Fopydo plus Book Reading Aid for reading books. Also, the 
Fopydo sits firmly on my lap whereas the StandScan needs a flat surface to be 
stable.
Since I use KNFBReader, I don’t need the lighting provided by the StandScan.

Cheers,

Anne


> On 11 Jan 2016, at 06:16, Paul Hunt <prhu...@att.net> wrote:
> 
> Hello Anne. How would you compare the Fopydo to the Stand Scan Pro?
> 
>> On Jan 10, 2016, at 7:38 AM, Anne Robertson <annefromo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello everyone,
>> 
>> I’ve just finished reading a novel with the Fopydo stand and Book Reading 
>> Aid using KNFBReader and it’s brilliant! I’ve been able to sit with the 
>> stand on my lap and read comfortably. This is the best Book reading solution 
>> I’ve ever found.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
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Fopydo with book reading aid is great

[Anne Robertson]

Hello everyone,

I’ve just finished reading a novel with the Fopydo stand and Book Reading Aid 
using KNFBReader and it’s brilliant! I’ve been able to sit with the stand on my 
lap and read comfortably. This is the best Book reading solution I’ve ever 
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Re: Fopydo with book reading aid is great

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Terrie,

I have an iPhone 5.

Cheers,

Anne

> On 10 Jan 2016, at 15:09, terrie arnold  iph...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Well really glad to hear this as I have just gotten mine this last week but 
> have not taken it out of the package shit so glad to hear that it works 
> really well do you have a iPhone 5 or do you have one the bigger S or S plus 
> phones so which phone do you have or do you have an iPad

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Re: Fopydo with book reading aid is great

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Hello Kathy,

It’s easy to put together once you understand how to do it. The most awkward 
bit is sliding the two stiff wires into the base. But if you look at how 
they’re fitted into the upright piece, it makes sense.
I sit the stand on my lap with the upright piece to my right. I then place the 
book between the foam pads in the same position as you would place it for 
reading normally. The iPhone just stays put on the shelf.
I use KNFBReader so I just click the Take Picture button and it starts reading. 
While it reads, I turn the page. When it stops reading, I click the Back button 
and the focus is back on the Take Picture button.
It really couldn’t be easier to use!

Cheers,

Anne


> On 10 Jan 2016, at 15:17, Kathy Brandt <katya20...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Is the stand easier to put together then others on the market?
> 
>> On Jan 10, 2016, at 9:09 AM, terrie arnold <terrieiph...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Well really glad to hear this as I have just gotten mine this last week but 
>> have not taken it out of the package shit so glad to hear that it works 
>> really well do you have a iPhone 5 or do you have one the bigger S or S plus 
>> phones so which phone do you have or do you have an iPad
>> 
>> My thoughts for today
>> 
>>> On Jan 10, 2016, at 7:38 AM, Anne Robertson <annefromo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello everyone,
>>> 
>>> I’ve just finished reading a novel with the Fopydo stand and Book Reading 
>>> Aid using KNFBReader and it’s brilliant! I’ve been able to sit with the 
>>> stand on my lap and read comfortably. This is the best Book reading 
>>> solution I’ve ever found.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
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Re: Artificial vision app AIPoly has been released

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Hello Terrie,

It has to be at least a 5S. I have a 5 and it couldn’t be installed on mine.

Cheers,

Anne


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> Have a friend with a five iPhone does it need to be a 5S or newer can someone 
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Re: Talking goggles

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Hello Annie,

Talking Goggles, the paid version, is still working fine on my iPhone5 running 
the latest iOS. I wonder if anyone is managing to use it with an iPhone5S or 
later.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 8 Jan 2016, at 08:40, Annie Skov Nielsen  
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> Hi all.
> 
> I can not get talking goggles to work anymore, I really miss this app. I like 
> the video mode very much, because it recognizes the text on the fly, and it 
> is great when you are reading shampoo and stuff like that. I have just tried 
> again, but it will not work with my 6s Plus.
> 
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Re: no success with Google goggles

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Hello Sandy,

For Goggles to work, your phone must not be on silent and the app needs good 
lighting or to have the flash turned on.
It works great for me on my iPhone5.

Cheers,

Anne


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> hi,
> I've been playing with the newly downloaded version of talking goggles. I 
> double tap on record, but then nothing seems to happen. I double tap on stop, 
> but still nothing seems to happen. can someone walk me through it?
> 
> thanks for any help,
> Sandy
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Re: Artificial vision app AIPoly has been released

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For this app to work, you need an iPhone5S or later.

Cheers,

Anne


> On 5 Jan 2016, at 12:51, Ben Mustill-Rose  wrote:
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> Hi all,
> 
> AIPoly (pronounced A I Poly) was released a couple of days ago;
> unfortunately the announcement ended up in my spam folder, so I only
> saw it this morning.
> 
> For anyone who doesn't remember, a few months ago, AIPoly received a
> fairly large amount of media coverage with the usual hard-hitting
> headlines like "app allows blind people to see" and then as is usually
> the case we heard next to nothing about it. However, unlike most other
> projects like this, the app is actually available in the app store
> right now & it does sort of work.
> Here is a good article that gives some background:
> http://techcrunch.com/2015/08/17/aipoly-puts-machine-vision-in-the-hands-of-the-visually-impaired/
> 
> I'm not one for writing up lengthy tutorials, but since I found the
> app a bit confusing I've provided some pointers below:
> 
> After you have swiped through the tutorial you will be on the main
> screen. To start recognizing objects, point the device at an object
> and press the "toggle AIPoly" button. You will receive no feedback
> what so ever. When this button is pressed the device will constantly
> be trying to recognize things - E.G. you are able to move the device
> around & it will automatically try to recognize whatever is in front
> of it.
> After a few seconds, feel just under the middle of the screen and you
> should find out what AIPoly thinks the object is. If focus remains on
> this element future objects will sometimes be spoken but sometimes
> not, so it's best to keep feeling around the same area.
> The "pencil" button is used to teach AIPoly about an object although
> I've yet to give this a go.
> For me, it takes about 5 seconds for an object to be recognized, but
> as I say, you receive no feedback at all, so it's hard to know when
> it's safe to move the phone away and when a result is returned.
> 
> The app definitely has a lot of potential and since it's free you
> can't really beat the price, but the user experience needs quite a bit
> of work.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ben.
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Re: Talking goggles

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Hello Simon,

Talking Goggles comes in two versions: the free one with ads, and the very 
cheap paid one without ads. It works in two modes: video or still camera.
It’s very simple to use and when set to video, works in real time. You just 
click on Record and point the camera to the thing you need to identify. It 
reads bits of labels on jars and boxes, identifies books, reads short pieces of 
text and translates them into the chosen language. It also identifies 
well-known pictures. So, if you have placemats with famous paintings on them, 
it can tell you which is which.
Talking Goggles is an app I don’t ever want to be without.

Cheers,

Anne


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> Sorry folks, but I have to ask,
> 
> What is talking goggles?
> 
> I assume it's a similar type app to KNFB reader?
> 
> Thanks simon  

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Re: Fopydo Book Reading Aid?

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Hello Chris,

It sounds as though you have it right. The foam pads stop the pages from 
turning by themselves. Don’t squeeze them too tightly against the top and 
bottom of the book and you should be able to turn the page while KNFB Reader is 
speaking the double page you just scanned.

I put the instructions into French for my list members and one person has 
already successfully set up her stand. My instructions are much more concise 
than those on the website which I found a bit confusing too.

Cheers,

Anne


> On 3 Jan 2016, at 22:32, Chris Smart  wrote:
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> OK, I was able to read the included instruction sheet with KNFB Reader. Now, 
> to try a book.
> 
> I have a larger paperback here. I've opened it to a page in the middle, and 
> have it turned 90 degrees. so one page is towards the front of the
> 
> With the foam pads on left and right, I have one page closer to me and one 
> further away, with the spine in the middle. The spine extends from one foam 
> pad to the other. Is that right? So essentially, I'll be scanning two page 
> faces with each camera picture?
> 
> Chris
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Re: Fopydo scanning stand with book attachment

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Oh, if only the US postal service were that good! My Fopydo stand with 
bookreading attachment has been bouncing around the Chicago area for almost two 
weeks and only departed the US, hopefully for France, yesterday. It seems that 
someone couldn’t tell the difference between Yorkville and Orry la Ville, 
France! It isn’t Tomek’s fault and he’s been really helpful with this problem.

I’m looking forward to getting my Fopydo but I doubt it will arrive this side 
of Christmas.

Cheers,

Anne


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> I assume everyone who ordered it through the kick starter has received theirs 
> by now.
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Re: Language switching, what makes that happen?

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I’m not sure about this, but I suspect that the message has to be in HTML and 
the language tag set correctly for the voice to switch. This is certainly true 
for web pages.

Cheers,

Anne


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> I'd really like to know this too as I've had similar problems when my phone 
> reads out text with part or all text in another language. Harry
> 
>> On 16 Dec 2015, at 00:58, Mary Otten  wrote:
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>> I sometimes get emails that have mixed Russian and English. The language 
>> switching is wonderful on the iPhone. It just reads the Russian, then reads 
>> the English, then goes back to Russian. It is really great. So today, I got 
>> an email that had English and German. I don't have German in my language 
>> rotor, so I put it there, thinking that perhaps that might be the key to 
>> getting the language switching I was hoping for. no dice. Alex just went 
>> right ahead and read the German words. Not too good. So I switched to the 
>> German voice,and then it was reading English words. Also not too good. My 
>> guess is that the Russian switching works so well because a different 
>> alphabet is being used. Does that jive with others  experiences? I have also 
>> seen my language switch to Arabic and to some Asian language that I don't 
>> recognize from time to time. Again, those languages use different alphabets 
>> then the Roman. That's my theory. Do others find similar? And in such case, 
>> how could I get language switching from English to another language that 
>> uses the Roman alphabet?
>> Mary
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Re: Need tips for first time mac book user

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Tara,

Use Control and Option plus an arrow key to navigate in any application on the 
Mac. In Safari, you have additional commands for navigating between Headings, 
Links, Buttons, Form Controls, and various other elements. All these commands 
can be found by pressing Control-Option-h-h and looking at the Web submenu.
When a menu has a submenu, just press right arrow to get to it, then press down 
arrow to see the contents. Press Escape if you want to leave the menu without 
activating any item.

Cheers,

Anne


> On 6 Dec 2015, at 16:32, TaraPrakash <taraprak...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Thanks. But what would be the keystroke for navigating?
> I have also sent subscription request to the list Portia ? Suggested
> Thanks all
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Dec 6, 2015, at 6:36 AM, Anne Robertson <annefromo...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:annefromo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> There are two ways of navigating in Safari on the Mac: DOM and Groups. In 
>> Groups mode, you can navigate in all directions and items are grouped into 
>> paragraphs. Unfortunately, since El Capitán, the interaction sound means 
>> that any paragraph containing more than a very few items begins with a 
>> horrible noise. I’ve reported this to Accessibility and they seemed quite 
>> shocked by it, so I hope that means that something will be done to improve 
>> the situation fairly soon. Why they had to add a sound for interacvtion is 
>> beyond me.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>>> On 6 Dec 2015, at 01:46, joseph hudson <jhud7...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:jhud7...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, no there's no Siri on Mac. The anything close to it, would be 
>>> dictation. As for never grading five paragraph in Safari I don't think it's 
>>> possible. However, you can add lines in such to the web rotor first Safari.
>>> Joseph Hudson
>>> Email
>>> jhud7...@gmail.com <mailto:jhud7...@gmail.com>
>>> I device support
>>> Telephone
>>> 2543007667
>>> Skype
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>>> https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404 
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404>
>>> Twitter
>>> https://twitter.com/josephhudson89 <https://twitter.com/josephhudson89> 
>>> 
>>> FaceTime/iMessage
>>> jhud7...@yahoo.com <mailto:jhud7...@yahoo.com>
>>>> On Dec 5, 2015, at 6:29 PM, TaraPrakash <taraprak...@gmail.com 
>>>> <mailto:taraprak...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you for help. Is there siri on mac?
>>>> Secondly how should navigate on Safari like from one to mext
>>>>  Paragraph? 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On Dec 4, 2015, at 7:43 PM, joseph hudson <jhud7...@gmail.com 
>>>> <mailto:jhud7...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hello, welcome to your first Mac. Your standard key commands, are going 
>>>>> to be what they call the Vieux keys. Those are going to be control an 
>>>>> option. To open a program, there're several ways. Such as command oh, or 
>>>>> enterOnce you've gotten to the program. I hope this answers some of your 
>>>>> questions, and I will also pointed out, that I do one-on-one training
>>>>> Joseph Hudson
>>>>> Email
>>>>> jhud7...@gmail.com <mailto:jhud7...@gmail.com>
>>>>> I device support
>>>>> Telephone
>>>>> 2543007667
>>>>> Skype
>>>>> joseph.hudson89 facebook
>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404 
>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404>
>>>>> Twitter
>>>>> https://twitter.com/josephhudson89 <https://twitter.com/josephhudson89> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> FaceTime/iMessage
>>>>> jhud7...@yahoo.com <mailto:jhud7...@yahoo.com>
>>>>>> On Dec 4, 2015, at 6:29 PM, TaraPrakash <taraprak...@gmail.com 
>>>>>> <mailto:taraprak...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dear all. I will start using MacBook tonight coming from the world of 
>>>>>> windows I have no idea about using MacBook can you guys give me tips 
>>>>>> about using MacBook for the first time like how to open a program. And 
>>>>>> how to use voice over 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from m

Re: Need tips for first time mac book user

[Anne Robertson]

Hello,

There are two ways of navigating in Safari on the Mac: DOM and Groups. In 
Groups mode, you can navigate in all directions and items are grouped into 
paragraphs. Unfortunately, since El Capitán, the interaction sound means that 
any paragraph containing more than a very few items begins with a horrible 
noise. I’ve reported this to Accessibility and they seemed quite shocked by it, 
so I hope that means that something will be done to improve the situation 
fairly soon. Why they had to add a sound for interacvtion is beyond me.

Cheers,

Anne


> On 6 Dec 2015, at 01:46, joseph hudson  wrote:
> 
> Hi, no there's no Siri on Mac. The anything close to it, would be dictation. 
> As for never grading five paragraph in Safari I don't think it's possible. 
> However, you can add lines in such to the web rotor first Safari.
> Joseph Hudson
> Email
> jhud7...@gmail.com 
> I device support
> Telephone
> 2543007667
> Skype
> joseph.hudson89 facebook
> https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404 
> 
> Twitter
> https://twitter.com/josephhudson89  
> 
> FaceTime/iMessage
> jhud7...@yahoo.com 
>> On Dec 5, 2015, at 6:29 PM, TaraPrakash > > wrote:
>> 
>> Thank you for help. Is there siri on mac?
>> Secondly how should navigate on Safari like from one to mext
>>  Paragraph? 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Dec 4, 2015, at 7:43 PM, joseph hudson > > wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello, welcome to your first Mac. Your standard key commands, are going to 
>>> be what they call the Vieux keys. Those are going to be control an option. 
>>> To open a program, there're several ways. Such as command oh, or enterOnce 
>>> you've gotten to the program. I hope this answers some of your questions, 
>>> and I will also pointed out, that I do one-on-one training
>>> Joseph Hudson
>>> Email
>>> jhud7...@gmail.com 
>>> I device support
>>> Telephone
>>> 2543007667
>>> Skype
>>> joseph.hudson89 facebook
>>> https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404 
>>> 
>>> Twitter
>>> https://twitter.com/josephhudson89  
>>> 
>>> FaceTime/iMessage
>>> jhud7...@yahoo.com 
 On Dec 4, 2015, at 6:29 PM, TaraPrakash > wrote:
 
 Dear all. I will start using MacBook tonight coming from the world of 
 windows I have no idea about using MacBook can you guys give me tips about 
 using MacBook for the first time like how to open a program. And how to 
 use voice over 
 
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Re: Looktel Money Reader problem

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Andrea and Harry,

I sent them the images of the 10 euro note a couple of weeks ago when I noticed 
that it wasn’t being recognised, so I assume they’ll be updating it. I’ll send 
the images of the 20 euro note as soon as I lay my hands on a nice crisp one.

Cheers,

Anne


> On 2 Dec 2015, at 19:14, Andrea Roveretto  wrote:
> 
> Well its a long time they are out, so maybe there should be an update...
> And now the new 20 euro is out too, so if the app developers will not update 
> the app, we will end with a program that does not read 2 of the most 
> important banknotes.
> 
> 
> Il 02/12/2015 19:08, Harry Bell ha scritto:
>> It does not work on 10 euro note for me either. Harry
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On 2 Dec 2015, at 17:34, Andrea Roveretto < 
>> and...@andrearoveretto.it 
>> > wrote:
>> 
>>> I have another problem with the app.
>>> It does not recognize the new 10 euro that are aout for a long time now... 
>>> Have I missed an update of the app?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Il 02/12/2015 18:21, Woody Anna Dresner ha scritto:
 Hi,
 
 MOney Reader is working fine on my 6s Plus running an iOS 9.2 beta.
 
 Best,
 Anna
 
 
 
> On Dec 2, 2015, at 10:25 AM, Marie < 
> scribbl...@comcast.net 
> > wrote:
> 
> I have used the Looktel money reader for a long time and absolutely love 
> it. However in the last month there has been a problem with it. On my 6th 
> gen ITouch running IOS 9.1 it will not even open when I double tap or in 
> the rare instance when it does open, it will not read anything. I have 
> tried deleting and re-installing, re-booting the IPod and no change.
> On my IPhone 6 running IOS 8.4 it has worked normally until yesterday 
> when it opened but would not read the bills? I actually picked up my old 
> IPhone 4 running IOS   7 and it worked 
> flawlessly. Is anyone else having any issues with the app or am I being 
> haunted by the Apple Gotcha?
> Marie
>  
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Re: pages issues and a comparison question.

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Samantha,

I can’t make comparisons with Windows as I’ve never used Windows, but I’m a 
longterm Mac user and normally have no problems with focus in Pages. However, 
since the latest updates to Pages and the change to El Capitán, there have been 
all kinds of focus issues. I’m constantly reporting problems to Apple so I hope 
they’ll fix the worst ones soon.
My first suggestion to help matters is to make sure that the mouse ignores the 
other cursors. Then, you should also try bringing the keyboard focus to the 
VoiceOver Cursor (VO-Cmd-F4).

Cheers,

Anne


> On 28 Nov 2015, at 00:49, Samantha Ash  wrote:
> 
> Hi all. I've had problems with pages and tables. on the mac. I've been trying 
> to fill in tables and it keeps losing focus and jumping into the centre 
> header field. Also, which is better do you think? Mac, or windows? I love m 
> mac and don't want to have to pay for something that I can get for free. It's 
> annoying though with  this voiceover bug.
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Re: motion x GPS drive discontinued

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I’m sure Navigon will not disappear as its maps are held on the phone and can 
therefore be used without 3G.

Cheers,

Anne


> On 24 Nov 2015, at 20:09, John Diakogeorgiou  wrote:
> 
> I will be quite upset if navigon doesn't survive. I find it better for
> driving than Google maps or Apple.
> 
> On 11/24/15, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> Hi Mike,
>> 
>> I am quite sure TomTom and especially Garmin will survive since they are
>> primarily large hardware manufacturers, especially Garmin is a very large
>> world-wide company and they make everything from super expensive
>> professional GPS solutions for pilots to GPS units and chartplotters for
>> boating as well as vehicle GPS (the Nuvi line) and even are bit in the
>> fitness, golf and dog training areas.Navigon is now owned by Garmin and I
>> don't see them giving up on their commitment to offer apps for smartphones
>> any time soon.
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Mike Arrigo
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 7:09 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: motion x GPS drive discontinued
>> 
>> Interesting. In some ways I do think motion x was superior. On the other
>> hand, when Google and Apple started offering free navigation, I did wonder
>> if the paid apps would survive. It will be interesting to see if other apps
>> such as TomTom, Garmin and Navigon survive. Motion x was a great app, I will
>> definitely be sorry to see it go.
>> Original message:
>>> Hi Mike,
>> 
>>> MotionX GPS Drive was removed from the App Store on August 20, 2015.
>>> They stopped renewing Live Voice Guidance at that time. The message
>>> that comes up if you still have the app is:
>>> "Thank you for being a valued user of MotionX GPS Drive.
>>> Unfortunately, free competition from Google and Apple have made the
>>> economics of MotionX GPS Drive impossible to sustain. Both Google and
>>> Apple support their navigation solutions with their other businesses.
>>> This is not the case for MotionX. This is the reason that we can no
>>> longer offer new subscriptions to Live Voice Guidance for MotionX GPS
>>> Drive. We sincerely apologize for any inconvenience this may cause and
>>> hope that you have some level of satisfaction with the offerings from
>>> Google and Apple which are free. We want to thank you for your
>>> support. We know that we have a superior product, but it has been
>>> impossible to compete with free offerings from others."
>> 
>>> HTH
>> 
>>> Esther
>> 
>>> On Monday, November 23, 2015 at 11:10:28 AM UTC-10, Mike Arrigo wrote:
>> 
>>> Hey everyone. I have some sad news, from what I can tell, the Motion x
>>> GPS Drive app is no longer available. It no longer shows up in the app
>>> store. This is kind of sad, it was one of the best main stream GPS
>>> apps in my opinion, and actually provided fairly decent walking
>>> directions.
>>> It was one of the top rated GPS apps, wonder why they discontinued it,
>>> but that's what has happened.
>> 
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Kobo accessible again

[Anne Robertson]

Hello everyone,

Kobo with iOS9 is once again accessible. I’m able to read with a Braille 
display or just the built-in iOS voice, and I’ve managed to click on links to 
footnotes, read the footnote, and return to the book.
Cheers,

Anne


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Re: Has anyone tried Talking Goggles with iPhone 6S and iOs 9.02?

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Hello Krister,

If your phone is on silent, Talking Goggles won’t work.

Cheers,

Anne


> On 9 Oct 2015, at 11:42, Krister Ekstrom  wrote:
> 
> I believe the latter is the case actually as the stove is quite new, but of 
> course cleaning will help but i wonder what to clean? With this i mean that 
> it very well could be the camera in the phone that’s the culpret here. What 
> would you use to clean the camera lens?
> /Krister
> 
>> 9 okt. 2015 kl. 11:06 skrev Gmail > >:
>> 
>> This might sound rude, and forgive me if I offend you, but you may need to 
>> whipe down the part of your stove/oven where the controls/display are 
>> housed. I always glforget to do this when cleaning my range. Either that, or 
>> your range has poor contrast that a camera has trouble handling.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Ari
>> 
>> On Oct 8, 2015, at 1:01 AM, Krister Ekstrom > > wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi, Just out of curiosity, is there another app one could use to take 
>>> pictures or videos preferably of a digital display in real time?
>>> /Krister
>>> 
 8 okt. 2015 kl. 02:53 skrev Steve >:
 
 It doesn't work as well as it used to at least in video mode.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Andy Baracco 
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 8:09 AM
 Subject: Re: Has anyone tried Talking Goggles with iPhone 6S and iOs 9.02?
 
 I do not believe it has been updated in years.
 
 Andy
 
 
 -Original Message- 
 From: Richard Turner
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 To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 Subject: Re: Has anyone tried Talking Goggles with iPhone 6S and iOs 9.02?
 
 
 I do not have the 6S, but Talking Goggles has become less and less useful.
 It doesn't work like it used to for me on either my 5S or my work iPhone 6.
 Richard
 
 
 > On Oct 7, 2015, at 4:12 AM, Krister Ekstrom  > 
 > wrote:
 >
 > Hi,
 > Subject says it all really. Just wondered if you have tried talking 
 > goggles with the new iPhone 6S to read things like displays on devices 
 > such as recorders, washing machines and so on? I have an iPhone 6 and on 
 > my newly bought stove i can’t get anything from the display and since 
 > i’ve 
 > heard that the camera was to be better on the 6S i was sorta curious if 
 > anyone has had success using Goggles with it.
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Re: Has anyone tried Talking Goggles with iPhone 6S and iOs 9.02?

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Eileen,

I mean when the switch on the iPhone is set to silent. I’ve just tried both 
versions of Talking Goggles, the free one with ads and the paying one without 
ads, and they both still work for me on my iPhone 5 with iOS8.

Cheers,

Anne


> On 9 Oct 2015, at 16:27, eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Ann,
> 
> Do you mean silent or muted? Or, when you turn speech off with a 3 finger 
> double tap? I tried to use Talking Goggles 2 days ago and got no response 
> after a few minutes, so I went on to the next app in my list of tricks to get 
> the info I needed. It was on video mode, flash on and running 8.4.1 on an 
> iPhone6. I had all apps closed out of the app switcher. If I can get it to 
> work, it takes a tremendous amount of time, so I try something else like 
> BeMyEyes. HTH.

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Re: Has anyone tried Talking Goggles with iPhone 6S and iOs 9.02?

[Anne Robertson]

Talking Goggles was updated two months ago. I’m still using an iPhone5 and 
Talking Goggles is still working for me.

Cheers,

Anne


> On 7 Oct 2015, at 16:14, Rose Combs  wrote:
> 
> Maybe not, but if it reads the oven temperature I am happy, it is about the 
> only use I found for it anyway.  
> 
> 
> Rose Combs
> roseco...@q.com
> A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the 
> memory!
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Andy Baracco
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> I do not believe it has been updated in years.
> 
> Andy
> 
> 
> -Original Message- 
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> Subject: Re: Has anyone tried Talking Goggles with iPhone 6S and iOs 9.02?
> 
> 
> I do not have the 6S, but Talking Goggles has become less and less useful.
> It doesn't work like it used to for me on either my 5S or my work iPhone 6.
> Richard
> 
> 
>> On Oct 7, 2015, at 4:12 AM, Krister Ekstrom  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> Subject says it all really. Just wondered if you have tried talking 
>> goggles with the new iPhone 6S to read things like displays on devices 
>> such as recorders, washing machines and so on? I have an iPhone 6 and on 
>> my newly bought stove i can’t get anything from the display and since i’ve 
>> heard that the camera was to be better on the 6S i was sorta curious if 
>> anyone has had success using Goggles with it.
>> /Krister
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Re: Kobo books with VoiceOver and braille display on IOS

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Shai,

The last accessible version of Kobo for iOS was 7.1. I’m still using that 
version as I have a large number of books in my Kobo library.
I’ve made several complaints to the developers over the past year or more, but 
although they say they have passed my complaint on to the relevant people, 
nothing has been done so far.
Since you need to use their format, could you also send in a complaint by going 
to the Kobo website:


The feature they need to restore to make their app accessible again is 
scrolling as a page transition.

Kobo books are readable on a Mac with Adobe Digital Editions. I don’t know 
about Windows.

Cheers,

Anne


> On 30 Sep 2015, at 23:35, Shai  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> In reading a book for school, the website that I was reading the book
> on informed me that I could purchase an accessible version of it from
> Kobo. I know that there is a Kobo app out there which I downloaded but
> when I previewed the book I was unable to move forward or back a page
> using VoiceOver.
> Has anyone had experience with this? I would be reading the book with
> VoiceOver on IOS with speech or using a Focus Blue display.
> Thank you in advance for any responses
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Re: Can anyone get the New voice OCR app to work?

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Hello,

The link I gave you is to the app in the UK appstore. The Appstore is part of 
the iTunes Store. Anyway, I searched for “Voice OCR” and it was the second 
result.
I actually found it in the French Appstore as I live in France, but simply 
changed the “fr” to “gb” since you’re in England.

Cheers,

Anne


 On 18 Aug 2015, at 11:00, Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES) 
 steven.hi...@nhs.net wrote:
 
 Sorry, any idea what I search for in the app store, I searched for oct and 
 voice and it comes up with too many hits, I need to narrow it down a bit.
  
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Anne Robertson
 Sent: 17 August 2015 19:27
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Can anyone get the New voice OCR app to work?
  
 Hello,
  
 In case you haven’t been able to find it, here's the link:
 https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/voice-take-pictures-have-them/id903772588?l=enmt=8
  
 https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/voice-take-pictures-have-them/id903772588?l=enmt=8
  
 Cheers,
  
 Anne
  
  
 On 17 Aug 2015, at 15:00, Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES) 
 steven.hi...@nhs.net mailto:steven.hi...@nhs.net wrote:
  
 Wow, I will try to go to the app store and search for voiceocr?
  
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Alex Stone
 Sent: 17 August 2015 11:36
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Can anyone get the New voice OCR app to work?
  
 Yes.
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES)
 Sent: 17 August 2015 10:10
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Can anyone get the New voice OCR app to work?
  
 Hi,
  
 Is this a free OCR app then?
  
  
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 [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Alex Stone
 Sent: 14 August 2015 22:28
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 Subject: Re: Can anyone get the New voice OCR app to work?
  
 I just installed it, and it opened first time on  my iphone 6+.
 Cheers
 Alex
 
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 Can anyone get the Voice OCR app to open when you download it. I tried 
 numerous times on my iPad running IOS 8.03.
  
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Re: Can anyone get the New voice OCR app to work?

[Anne Robertson]

Hello,

In case you haven’t been able to find it, here's the link:
https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/voice-take-pictures-have-them/id903772588?l=enmt=8
 
https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/voice-take-pictures-have-them/id903772588?l=enmt=8

Cheers,

Anne


 On 17 Aug 2015, at 15:00, Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES) 
 steven.hi...@nhs.net wrote:
 
 Wow, I will try to go to the app store and search for voiceocr?
  
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Alex Stone
 Sent: 17 August 2015 11:36
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Can anyone get the New voice OCR app to work?
  
 Yes.
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES)
 Sent: 17 August 2015 10:10
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Can anyone get the New voice OCR app to work?
  
 Hi,
  
 Is this a free OCR app then?
  
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
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 Sent: 14 August 2015 22:28
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 Subject: Re: Can anyone get the New voice OCR app to work?
  
 I just installed it, and it opened first time on  my iphone 6+.
 Cheers
 Alex
 
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Talking Goggles crashing

[Anne Robertson]

Hello,

I use Talking Goggles a lot and since the update to iOS 8.4, it keeps crashing.
I’m using an iPhone 5. Is anyone else having the same problem?
I’ve e-mailed the developer about this.

Cheers,

Anne


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Re: Talking Goggles crashing

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Hello,

I’m replying to myself here. I’ve had a reply from Martijn van der Spek the 
developer of Talking Goggles and he says there’s an update awaiting approval 
from Apple. In the meantime, the free version has been updated and is working 
fairly well.

Cheers,

Anne


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 Hello,
 
 I use Talking Goggles a lot and since the update to iOS 8.4, it keeps 
 crashing.
 I’m using an iPhone 5. Is anyone else having the same problem?
 I’ve e-mailed the developer about this.
 
 Cheers,
 
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Re: Blind Square vs. Seeing Eye GPS

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Hello Ann,

If you look at the settings, you should find a button to open another screen 
where you select what happens when you shake your iPhone. Shake to read 
pedometer is what you want.

I’m a bit vague about how everything else is labelled as I run BlindSquare in 
French, but they failed to localise that particular button.

Cheers,

Anne


 On 19 Jun 2015, at 15:52, Ann Byrne ann...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 
 Is there a way to request Blind Square to announce how far you have traveled? 
  When I use it, it is a bit whimsical about when this announcement is made.

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