RE: Swiping Up to Unlock Phone

[Carolyn Arnold]

Try:

1. Press Power Button.
2. Hold phone out about 12-15 inches from your face, mayb e line center of 
phone up with nose. 
3. Slide up from the bottom with one finger. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sandra Finley
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2024 11:15 AM
To: iPhone List 
Subject: Swiping Up to Unlock Phone

Some of you have been most helpful by answering my previous questions in a 
manner that was both supportive and logical. So I am encouraged to acknowledge 
what I do not understand and ask another question.

 

My question today refers to the gesture of swiping up when trying to unlock the 
phone using face ID. When I pick up my locked phone and swipe down with two 
fingers, I get the time plus the words,  “locked, flashlight off button, camera 
button.” Sometimes the words “swipe up to unlock” appear just after the word 
“flashlight.” The only thing I can do  is a three-finger single tap, which 
takes me back to the  home screen. Then I have to type my password. 

 

What am I doing wrong?  It seems that I have tried swiping up with every 
permutation available to the human hand!!

 

Sandy Finley

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RE: ipad 8th generation and IOS 18

[Carolyn Arnold]

Christopher, you probably would get a better trade in if you upgrade from 11 
now, rather than when it is no longer supported. So there, you have an excuse. 
You're welcome, LOL! 

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Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2024 6:48 PM
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Subject: RE: ipad 8th generation and IOS 18

Darn, I was hoping IOS 18 wouldn't support the iPhone 11 so I'd have an excuse 
to upgrade my iPhone. I guess I'll have to work on coming up with another 
reason! 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2024 11:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ipad 8th generation and IOS 18

At this point, it is all rumor, but here is what I found after a quick search.
iOS 18 device compatibility
Today’s rumor comes after an initial rumor last month offered our first look at 
iOS 18 device compatibility. At the time, however, we cautioned skepticism 
because the rumor was posted and quickly deleted, suggesting the source wasn’t 
confident in their claims.

In what seems to be a more concrete rumor today, shared on social media by a 
private account with a strong track record, here’s which devices will be 
compatible with iOS 18:

iPhone 15
iPhone 15 Plus
iPhone 15 Pro
iPhone 15 Pro Max
iPhone 14
iPhone 14 Plus
iPhone 14 Pro
iPhone 14 Pro Max
iPhone 13
iPhone 13 mini
iPhone 13 Pro
iPhone 13 Pro Max
iPhone 12
iPhone 12 mini
iPhone 12 Pro
iPhone 12 Pro Max
iPhone 11
iPhone 11 Pro
iPhone 11 Pro Max
iPhone XS
iPhone XS Max
iPhone XR
iPhone SE (2nd generation)
iPhone SE (3rd generation)
For those keeping track at home, this means that iOS 18 will be compatible with 
all the same devices as iOS 17.

iPadOS 18 compatibility
For iPad users, the account says that iPadOS 18 will drop support for the 
following devices:

iPad (6th generation)
iPad Pro (12.9-inch) (2nd generation)
iPad Pro (10.5-inch)
Other than those changes, iPadOS 18 will be compatible with the same devices as 
iPadOS 17. This includes the iPad (7th generation), which was first introduced 
in 2019 and is powered by the A10 Fusion chip.

iPadOS 18 compatibility:

iPad: 2019 and later
iPad mini: 2019 and later
iPad Air: 2019 and later
iPad Pro 2018 and later
This is a bit odd. The iPad Pro (10.5-inch) and iPad Pro (12.9-inch) (2nd 
generation) are both powered by the A10X Fusion processor, and will reportedly 
be dropped by iPadOS 18. The iPad (7th generation), meanwhile, is powered by 
the A10 Fusion and will reportedly support iPadOS 18.

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Can anyone tell me if the Ipad 8th generation will support the next ipad os 18? 
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RE: Hiding /uniding BCC Field in Outlook2016?

[Carolyn Arnold]

Making the BCC field show in Outlook 2013 – from Rosemarie on list
1. Open outlook and hit control N to start a new message.
2. Hit the alt key to go to the ribbon.
3. Hit P for options.
4. Hit B for blind carbon copy. Voila! You're done!
5. This is an item which has a
checkbox associated with it, which means it will remain enabled until it is 
disabled. This is also a toggle which means this BCC field can be disabled from 
showing by repeating steps 1 through 3.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2024 3:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Hiding /uniding BCC Field in Outlook2016?

I don’t know how to do this off the top of my head, so I did a web search and 
found the following article Show, hide, and view the Bcc (blind carbon copy) 
field in Outlook for Windows - Microsoft Support 

 

 

To do it myself though, while composing a message, I’d hit alt+q and type 
“BCC”. The first option will be to show the BCC field. Hit enter on this and 
the BCC field will appear.

 

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Chaltain at Outlook, USA

 

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Fazil
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2024 1:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Hiding /uniding BCC Field in Outlook2016?

 

Hi, Group.

How can I hide/unhide BCC Field in Outlook2016, please?

Thanks!

 

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RE: Phone Not Ringing

[Carolyn Arnold]

What did you do to solve the problem? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sandra Finley
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2024 1:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Phone Not Ringing

Problem solved!! Thanks to all of you.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2024 11:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Phone Not Ringing

 

Sandy, 

 

I'm with Sieghard and Richard on this one. It sounds as if Focus has been 
turned on on your device. Why they ever renamed Do not disturb to Focus is 
beyond me but they did. Focus contains the ability to have various named 
settings such as Sleep, Do not disturb, Work meeting, etc. You can check or set 
up these under Settings, Focus. As Sieghard posted, you can check whether Focus 
is currently turned on within the Control Center. I access the Control Center 
by placing focus on something in the topline status bar such as the time and 
doing a 3 finger swipe up. This will open the Control Center screen and you can 
follow Sieghard's excellent instructions to check it. 

 

Good luck. 

 

Alan Lemly 

Sent from my iPhone





On May 14, 2024, at 10:25 AM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

Definitely sounds like one o fthe focus modes like Do Not Disturb could 
be turned on. If you pull down from the top a little way to bring up control 
centre, you can then check on the left side of the screen about half way down 
where it says "Focus", if it only says "Focus" then it's fine, but if you hear 
something like "Focus, Do Not Disturb" or "Focus, Sleep" this means the Do Not 
Disturb or Sleep focus is is turned on and this would most likely cause all 
your calls to go straight to voice mail unless you set up exceptions in 
Settings > Focus to allow certain calls through or to allow notifications from 
certain apps.

Also keep in mind that if you go to Settings > Focus, it will tell you 
if any of the focus options is "on", but you can't turn it off from there, this 
has to be done via control centre and I believe you can also ask Siri to turn a 
particular focus on or off..

 

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Sandra Finley
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2024 6:14 AM
To: iPhone List mailto:viPhone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Phone Not Ringing

 

When people call me my  cell phone automatically goes to  voice mail. 
It does not ring at all. And yes, I know the difference between Ring Mode and 
Silent Mode and my phone is most definitely in the former.  What other settings 
could cause this behavior?  Thank you.

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RE: Phone not ringing

[Carolyn Arnold]

Have you tried moving the little bart up - the bar above the Volume Up and 
Volume Down buttons? 

Otherwise, you could go to settings, Sounds and Haptics and check your ring 
volume, which could have gotten turned down for some reason. 

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marilyn
Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2024 5:57 PM
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Subject: RE: Phone not ringing

Hello everyone, 

I don’t know what happened, but my iPhone is not ringing when I get a call. I 
have pressed the buttons on the left side of the phone to increase the volume 
in case it had somehow been lowered, to no avail. Please give me step by step 
instructions to get my phone ringing again. 

Many thanks. 

Marilyn 

 

 

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RE: Caller ID Help Please.

[Carolyn Arnold]

OK, thanks. I should have thought of that. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Joseph hudson
Sent: Monday, May 6, 2024 1:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Caller ID Help Please.

Carolyn, I just tried looking it up. And I couldn't find it either. However, 
you should be able to do 611 from your cellular phone, and that shall take you 
where you can hopefully get to a customer service agent.

> On May 6, 2024, at 12:22 PM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Do any of you have the number for Verizon? I have the disability number, but 
> I don't think that is the number that I need. I think I just need the regular 
> Verizon Customer Service line. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> janet gross
> Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2024 7:32 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.
> 
> Carolyn,
> 
> Try asking someone who you know has the same phone carrier as you.
> Ask them if they have the option  to toggle the caller ID on or off.
> 
> 
> Janet
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Carolyn Arnold
> Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2024 9:56 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.
> 
> It is strange, and I still can't even find caller ID in Phone in Settings.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> janet gross
> Sent: Friday, May 3, 2024 7:48 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.
> 
> James,
> 
> 
> 
> Ok I just tried to toggle on the caller ID again, and now I got a message 
> saying I can't save caller ID settings, the only option I get then is to 
> dismiss the caller ID settings.
> 
> Thank you any way!
> 
> 
> 
> Janet
> 
> 
> 
> This gets stranger and stranger.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of James 
> Bentley
> Sent: Friday, May 3, 2024 6:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.
> 
> 
> 
> Yes.  And I have the option to toggle it on or off.
> 
> 
> 
> I'm using a third gen I Phone S E 2022 if this helps.
> 
> James B
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
> janet gross
> Sent: Friday, May 3, 2024 12:37 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.
> 
> 
> 
> James,
> 
> 
> 
> So if the in progress message goes away in about ten seconds, does the caller 
> Id show up as it is turned on?
> 
> 
> 
> Janet
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
> James Bentley
> Sent: Friday, May 3, 2024 12:06 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.
> 
> 
> 
> I also get the in progress message.  But, if I wait around 10 seconds the in 
> progress message goes away.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> James B
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
> janet gross
> Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 10:55 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.
> 
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> 
> 
> I don't get the option to show my caller ID.
> 
> I go to settings, phone, caller ID, I tap on that, and I then get a message 
> saying in progress but nothing changes. ,
> 
> 
> 
> Janet
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
> Jonathan Cohn
> Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 9:35 PM
> To: Viphone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
> Subject: Re: Caller ID Help Please.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 1. Go to Settings, Tap Phone
> 
> 2. Press Show My Caller ID
> 
> 3. Use the toggle switch to show or hide your number
> 
> 
> 
>Apparently this does not work with Verizon
> 
> 
> 
>On May 2, 2024, at 6:51 PM, janet gross  <mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com> > wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>Hi Carolyn,
> 
>What do you mean when you say your card?
>I am talking about the caller ID

RE: Caller ID Help Please.

[Carolyn Arnold]

Do any of you have the number for Verizon? I have the disability number, but I 
don't think that is the number that I need. I think I just need the regular 
Verizon Customer Service line. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
janet gross
Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2024 7:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.

Carolyn,

Try asking someone who you know has the same phone carrier as you.
Ask them if they have the option  to toggle the caller ID on or off.


Janet
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2024 9:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.

It is strange, and I still can't even find caller ID in Phone in Settings.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
janet gross
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2024 7:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.

James,



Ok I just tried to toggle on the caller ID again, and now I got a message 
saying I can't save caller ID settings, the only option I get then is to 
dismiss the caller ID settings.

Thank you any way!



Janet



This gets stranger and stranger.







From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of James 
Bentley
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2024 6:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.



Yes.  And I have the option to toggle it on or off.



I'm using a third gen I Phone S E 2022 if this helps.

James B





From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
janet gross
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2024 12:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.



James,



So if the in progress message goes away in about ten seconds, does the caller 
Id show up as it is turned on?



Janet



From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
James Bentley
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2024 12:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.



I also get the in progress message.  But, if I wait around 10 seconds the in 
progress message goes away.





James B





From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
janet gross
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 10:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.



Hi,



I don't get the option to show my caller ID.

I go to settings, phone, caller ID, I tap on that, and I then get a message 
saying in progress but nothing changes. ,



Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Jonathan Cohn
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 9:35 PM
To: Viphone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: Caller ID Help Please.





1. Go to Settings, Tap Phone

2. Press Show My Caller ID

3. Use the toggle switch to show or hide your number



Apparently this does not work with Verizon



On May 2, 2024, at 6:51 PM, janet gross mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com> > wrote:



Hi Carolyn,

What do you mean when you say your card?
I am talking about the caller ID on an iPhone.
I've had caller ID turned on my iPhone for over 5 years.
I accidentally   turned it off, now that I think of it.
So, are you saying you don't have caller ID on your phone?
What kind of a phone do you have?

Janet

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 5:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.

On My Card, you can put your picture and name, but mine did not take 
just my name, and I'm not about to fool with dealing with a picture.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 5:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Caller ID Help Please.

I looked and saw what you mentioned on my 10R and it said what yours 
said but mine doesn't have cellular.  My 13 doesn't offer Caller ID.

   - Original Message -
   From: janet gross <mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>
   To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegrou

RE: Caller ID Help Please.

[Carolyn Arnold]

My carrier is Verizon, and I intend to call them Monday. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mario Eiland
Sent: Sunday, May 5, 2024 1:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.

Who is your carrier?


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2024 4:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.

That is where I have gone - Settings and Phone. I get:

Phone heading
Allow phone to access
Siri and search
Notifications, sounds , badges
Incoming calls, full screen
Announce calls, always
My number, and it gives it
Share Name and photo, Contacts only
Calls heading
Wi-Fi calling off (I have tried numerous times to turn it on, but it does not 
turn on, go figure.
Respond with text
Life Voice Mail off
Silence unknown callers off
Call blocking and identification
Block Contacts
SMS/call call reporting
Change Voicemail password
Dial Assist switch button on
Dial assist automatically determines the correct international or local prefix 
when dialing

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2024 4:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.

It is not in the Phone app, it is in Settings > Phone and it is towards the 
bottom and the exact name is "Show my caller Id, button". It is after Call 
Forwarding and Call Waiting.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2024 5:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.

I did not find Caller ID in my phone app. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
janet gross
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 11:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.

Hi, 

 

I don’t get the option to show my caller ID.  

I go to settings, phone, caller ID, I tap on that, and I then get a message 
saying in progress but nothing changes. ,

 

Janet 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jonathan 
Cohn
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 9:35 PM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Re: Caller ID Help Please.

 

 

1. Go to Settings, Tap Phone

2. Press Show My Caller ID

3. Use the toggle switch to show or hide your number

 

Apparently this does not work with Verizon 






On May 2, 2024, at 6:51 PM, janet gross mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

Hi Carolyn,

What do you mean when you say your card?
I am talking about the caller ID on an iPhone.
I've had caller ID turned on my iPhone for over 5 years.
I accidentally   turned it off, now that I think of it.
So, are you saying you don't have caller ID on your phone?
What kind of a phone do you have?

Janet

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 5:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.

On My Card, you can put your picture and name, but mine did not take 
just my name, and I'm not about to fool with dealing with a picture.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 5:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Caller ID Help Please.

I looked and saw what you mentioned on my 10R and it said what yours 
said but mine doesn't have cellular.  My 13 doesn't offer Caller ID.

   - Original Message -
   From: janet gross <mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>
   To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
   Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 2:49 PM
   Subject: Caller ID Help Please.


   Hi Everyone,



   Some way some how my caller ID has been turned off.

   When I call someone, they always ask why do I have my caller ID 
not shown.

   I went in to  settings, phone, caller ID, tap on show my caller 
ID, but all I get when I do that is a message says in progress.

   I can't seem to turn on my caller ID.

   Is there some way I can turn on my caller ID so when I call 
someone they will know the call

RE: Caller ID Help Please.

[Carolyn Arnold]

That sounds good. I definitely will call Monday. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Joseph hudson
Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2024 8:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Caller ID Help Please.

OK, all it needs to be done to yours. Is your name just needs to be added 
that's all that needs to happen. It's not that it needs to be turned on. Just 
so we're clear.

> On May 4, 2024, at 5:21 PM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I won't lose anything by giving them a call, which I probably will do Monday. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Joseph hudson
> Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2024 2:29 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Caller ID Help Please.
> 
> There's definitely not a device fix. But I'm sure that there is a carrier 
> fix. I'm currently not a Verizon customer. So I wouldn't be able to do this 
> on Carolyn behalf. I had to fix my car ID with a couple other carriers, and 
> they were able to fix it. So I'm sure Verizon would be able to do the same.
> 
>> On May 4, 2024, at 1:26 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> There is no fix, it seems that Verizon and some other carrier simply don't 
>> make this available.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Joseph hudson
>> Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2024 11:20 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Caller ID Help Please.
>> 
>> Then my best bet would be to call Verizon and see if they can fix this for 
>> you.
>> 
>>> On May 3, 2024, at 7:26 AM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes, our land line is Voice Call, connected to the Internet. 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Joseph hudson
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 10:38 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Caller ID Help Please.
>>> 
>>> Hi Carolyn, to fix this problem on your landline a call to Verizon is in 
>>> order. They can adjust your color ID settings where it will say your name 
>>> whenever you call your landline. The only way I don't think this can be 
>>> fixed, is if you're using one of those landline connect boxes.
>>> 
>>>> On May 2, 2024, at 5:10 PM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I went into My Card and put my name in, yet, still mine will show Wireless 
>>>> Caller, when I call our landline. I'd like to know what to do about that 
>>>> too, Janet. 
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>>> Of janet gross
>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 4:50 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Caller ID Help Please.
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Everyone, 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Some way some how my caller ID has been turned off.  
>>>> 
>>>> When I call someone, they always ask why do I have my caller ID not shown. 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> I went in to  settings, phone, caller ID, tap on show my caller ID, but 
>>>> all I get when I do that is a message says in progress.  
>>>> 
>>>> I can’t seem to turn on my caller ID.  
>>>> 
>>>> Is there some way I can turn on my caller ID so when I call someone they 
>>>> will know the call is coming from me? 
>>>> 
>>>> I have a XR with 17.4.1. 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you all.  
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Janet 
>>>> 
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RE: Caller ID Help Please.

[Carolyn Arnold]

Thanks. I'll ask my son and daughter-in-law. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
janet gross
Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2024 7:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.

Carolyn,

Try asking someone who you know has the same phone carrier as you.
Ask them if they have the option  to toggle the caller ID on or off.


Janet
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2024 9:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.

It is strange, and I still can't even find caller ID in Phone in Settings.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
janet gross
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2024 7:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.

James,



Ok I just tried to toggle on the caller ID again, and now I got a message 
saying I can't save caller ID settings, the only option I get then is to 
dismiss the caller ID settings.

Thank you any way!



Janet



This gets stranger and stranger.







From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of James 
Bentley
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2024 6:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.



Yes.  And I have the option to toggle it on or off.



I'm using a third gen I Phone S E 2022 if this helps.

James B





From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
janet gross
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2024 12:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.



James,



So if the in progress message goes away in about ten seconds, does the caller 
Id show up as it is turned on?



Janet



From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
James Bentley
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2024 12:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.



I also get the in progress message.  But, if I wait around 10 seconds the in 
progress message goes away.





James B





From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
janet gross
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 10:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.



Hi,



I don't get the option to show my caller ID.

I go to settings, phone, caller ID, I tap on that, and I then get a message 
saying in progress but nothing changes. ,



Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Jonathan Cohn
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 9:35 PM
To: Viphone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: Caller ID Help Please.





1. Go to Settings, Tap Phone

2. Press Show My Caller ID

3. Use the toggle switch to show or hide your number



Apparently this does not work with Verizon



On May 2, 2024, at 6:51 PM, janet gross mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com> > wrote:



Hi Carolyn,

What do you mean when you say your card?
I am talking about the caller ID on an iPhone.
I've had caller ID turned on my iPhone for over 5 years.
I accidentally   turned it off, now that I think of it.
So, are you saying you don't have caller ID on your phone?
What kind of a phone do you have?

Janet

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 5:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.

On My Card, you can put your picture and name, but mine did not take 
just my name, and I'm not about to fool with dealing with a picture.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 5:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Caller ID Help Please.

I looked and saw what you mentioned on my 10R and it said what yours 
said but mine doesn't have cellular.  My 13 doesn't offer Caller ID.

   - Original Message -
   From: janet gross <mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>
   To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
   Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 2:49 PM
   Subject: Caller ID Help Plea

RE: Caller ID Help Please.

[Carolyn Arnold]

Thanks, I will let you know, and like I said in earlier post, Call Fordwarding, 
but not ID Caller - that makes no sense to me at all. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
janet gross
Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2024 7:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.

Carolyn,

Good for you!
I can't imagine why any phone carrier wouldn't have that option for their 
customers, but I'm not for sure if they do or not.
Let us know when you call them, what they say.
I'm quite curious to know if they don't have that service, why is that.

Janet


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2024 6:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.

I agree and intend to call Verizon Monday.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
janet gross
Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2024 6:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.

Carolyn,

It wouldn't hurt to ask them.
As I said before, and as I still say, I think it is important to have a caller 
ID.
I can't tell you how many times I've answered the phone, only to hear someone 
on the other end wanting me to send money to another country.
I don't want to be bothered by all the scammers calling me.

Janet
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2024 5:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.

Wow, Janet that really gives me incentive to call Verizon and see if they can 
get mine on.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
janet gross
Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2024 3:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.

Hi Sieghard and All,

I just called my phone carrier T-Mobile, regarding the caller ID issue I have 
been having.
They turned the caller ID on for me, and they said they just updated it, but 
they also said some times this can take 72 hours, before it will take affect.
So, they had me to hang up the phone, and restart the phone to see if it worked 
then.
They then called me back a few minutes later, and I told them I still get the 
message saying in progress, but not the option to toggle it on or off.
They assured me it will be working within 72 hours, and they will call me back 
this coming Tuesday to check if I can turn it on then.
They told me to keep checking the setting in between now and Tuesday.
They also said because of this issue, they will not charge me any monthly 
payment for my next bill.
So, we'll see.


Thank you all.

Janet
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2024 1:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.

I just did a Google search for "Show Caller Id not available on iPhone" and I 
found the following which clearly indicates that having the Show Caller Id 
switch depends on your carrier and that Verizon and Sprint don't make this 
available to their customers:

Hanlab1 Posted on Dec 20, 2021 6:39 AM
Caller ID option doesn’t exist in settings > Phone Hi, could you please help me 
in finding the caller ID option on my iPhone 13 pro max so I would be able to 
toggle it on/off?
  When I went to Setting > Phone, I couldn’t find the caller ID function there. 
Is it hidden?
Thanks for the help!

Axel Foley Posted on Dec 20, 2021 7:33 AM The Caller ID feature and option on 
the iPhone, is provided and managed by your carrier. Most carriers provide the 
feature to be toggled OFF or ON right from the iPhone.
Some carriers do not provide this capability and require the user to call them.
Therefore I recommend that you contact your carrier for a resolution.

IdrisSeabright posted on Dec 20, 2021 7:42 AM in response to Honlab1 If you're 
a Verizon customer or were a Sprint customer (or using a carrier that uses 
their networks), you will not see that option on your phone.
You will need to manage the options by dialing short codes.
For Verizon, start here:
https://www.verizon.com/support/caller-id-services/
:



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2024 10:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.

And have you called T-Mobile to ask why his does not work for you?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2024 4:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.

Carolyn,
Can I ask you who is your phone carrier?
I'm wondering why this problem with the caller ID is all about.
My phone carrier is T-Mobile.
Janet

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Fri

RE: Caller ID Help Please.

[Carolyn Arnold]

I agree about Call Forwarding and wondered why it was an option on my phone, 
while ID Caller is not. Go figure. I gues that makes sense to someone. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2024 1:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.

I would be careful with turning on Call Forward, many carriers charge for this 
and why would you want to forward your calls to begin with? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2024 4:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.

Sieghard,

I'm glad you just mentioned the calling forward, as I just now checked that, 
and I tried to turn that on as well, but to no avail either!
I just find all this strange though.

Janet

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2024 3:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.

It is not in the Phone app, it is in Settings > Phone and it is towards the 
bottom and the exact name is "Show my caller Id, button". It is after Call 
Forwarding and Call Waiting.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2024 5:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.

I did not find Caller ID in my phone app.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
janet gross
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 11:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.

Hi,



I don't get the option to show my caller ID.

I go to settings, phone, caller ID, I tap on that, and I then get a message 
saying in progress but nothing changes. ,



Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jonathan 
Cohn
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 9:35 PM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Re: Caller ID Help Please.





1. Go to Settings, Tap Phone

2. Press Show My Caller ID

3. Use the toggle switch to show or hide your number



Apparently this does not work with Verizon






On May 2, 2024, at 6:51 PM, janet gross mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com> > wrote:



Hi Carolyn,

What do you mean when you say your card?
I am talking about the caller ID on an iPhone.
I've had caller ID turned on my iPhone for over 5 years.
I accidentally   turned it off, now that I think of it.
So, are you saying you don't have caller ID on your phone?
What kind of a phone do you have?

Janet

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 5:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.

On My Card, you can put your picture and name, but mine did not take 
just my name, and I'm not about to fool with dealing with a picture.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 5:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Caller ID Help Please.

I looked and saw what you mentioned on my 10R and it said what yours 
said but mine doesn't have cellular.  My 13 doesn't offer Caller ID.

   - Original Message -
   From: janet gross <mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>
   To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
   Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 2:49 PM
   Subject: Caller ID Help Please.


   Hi Everyone,



   Some way some how my caller ID has been turned off.

   When I call someone, they always ask why do I have my caller ID 
not shown.

   I went in to  settings, phone, caller ID, tap on show my caller 
ID, but all I get when I do that is a message says in progress.

   I can't seem to turn on my caller ID.

   Is there some way I can turn on my caller ID so when I call 
someone they will know the call is coming from me?

   I have a XR with 17.4.1.





   Thank you all.



   Janet



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RE: Caller ID Help Please.

[Carolyn Arnold]

I agree and intend to call Verizon Monday. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
janet gross
Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2024 6:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.

Carolyn,

It wouldn't hurt to ask them.
As I said before, and as I still say, I think it is important to have a caller 
ID.
I can't tell you how many times I've answered the phone, only to hear someone 
on the other end wanting me to send money to another country.
I don't want to be bothered by all the scammers calling me.

Janet
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2024 5:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.

Wow, Janet that really gives me incentive to call Verizon and see if they can 
get mine on.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
janet gross
Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2024 3:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.

Hi Sieghard and All,

I just called my phone carrier T-Mobile, regarding the caller ID issue I have 
been having.
They turned the caller ID on for me, and they said they just updated it, but 
they also said some times this can take 72 hours, before it will take affect.
So, they had me to hang up the phone, and restart the phone to see if it worked 
then.
They then called me back a few minutes later, and I told them I still get the 
message saying in progress, but not the option to toggle it on or off.
They assured me it will be working within 72 hours, and they will call me back 
this coming Tuesday to check if I can turn it on then.
They told me to keep checking the setting in between now and Tuesday.
They also said because of this issue, they will not charge me any monthly 
payment for my next bill.
So, we'll see.


Thank you all.

Janet
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2024 1:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.

I just did a Google search for "Show Caller Id not available on iPhone" and I 
found the following which clearly indicates that having the Show Caller Id 
switch depends on your carrier and that Verizon and Sprint don't make this 
available to their customers:

Hanlab1 Posted on Dec 20, 2021 6:39 AM
Caller ID option doesn’t exist in settings > Phone Hi, could you please help me 
in finding the caller ID option on my iPhone 13 pro max so I would be able to 
toggle it on/off?
  When I went to Setting > Phone, I couldn’t find the caller ID function there. 
Is it hidden?
Thanks for the help!

Axel Foley Posted on Dec 20, 2021 7:33 AM The Caller ID feature and option on 
the iPhone, is provided and managed by your carrier. Most carriers provide the 
feature to be toggled OFF or ON right from the iPhone.
Some carriers do not provide this capability and require the user to call them.
Therefore I recommend that you contact your carrier for a resolution.

IdrisSeabright posted on Dec 20, 2021 7:42 AM in response to Honlab1 If you're 
a Verizon customer or were a Sprint customer (or using a carrier that uses 
their networks), you will not see that option on your phone.
You will need to manage the options by dialing short codes.
For Verizon, start here:
https://www.verizon.com/support/caller-id-services/
:



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2024 10:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.

And have you called T-Mobile to ask why his does not work for you?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2024 4:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.

Carolyn,
Can I ask you who is your phone carrier?
I'm wondering why this problem with the caller ID is all about.
My phone carrier is T-Mobile.
Janet

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2024 6:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.

I found no Caller ID. I did go through the prompts and tried making it take my 
name, but when I called here, it said Wireless Caller.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Donna Casteen
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2024 11:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Caller ID Help Please.

Carolyn,

Open the Settings app, swipe down to Phone & tap to open, swipe to Caller ID & 
tap to open. Confirm that Caller ID is toggled On.

Donna

>
> I did not find Caller ID in my phone app.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of janet gross
> Sent: Thursday, May 2,

RE: Caller ID Help Please.

[Carolyn Arnold]

Wow, Janet that really gives me incentive to call Verizon and see if they can 
get mine on. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
janet gross
Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2024 3:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.

Hi Sieghard and All,

I just called my phone carrier T-Mobile, regarding the caller ID issue I have 
been having.
They turned the caller ID on for me, and they said they just updated it, but 
they also said some times this can take 72 hours, before it will take affect.
So, they had me to hang up the phone, and restart the phone to see if it worked 
then.
They then called me back a few minutes later, and I told them I still get the 
message saying in progress, but not the option to toggle it on or off.
They assured me it will be working within 72 hours, and they will call me back 
this coming Tuesday to check if I can turn it on then.
They told me to keep checking the setting in between now and Tuesday.
They also said because of this issue, they will not charge me any monthly 
payment for my next bill.
So, we'll see.


Thank you all.

Janet
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2024 1:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.

I just did a Google search for "Show Caller Id not available on iPhone" and I 
found the following which clearly indicates that having the Show Caller Id 
switch depends on your carrier and that Verizon and Sprint don't make this 
available to their customers:

Hanlab1 Posted on Dec 20, 2021 6:39 AM
Caller ID option doesn’t exist in settings > Phone Hi, could you please help me 
in finding the caller ID option on my iPhone 13 pro max so I would be able to 
toggle it on/off?
  When I went to Setting > Phone, I couldn’t find the caller ID function there. 
Is it hidden?
Thanks for the help!

Axel Foley Posted on Dec 20, 2021 7:33 AM The Caller ID feature and option on 
the iPhone, is provided and managed by your carrier. Most carriers provide the 
feature to be toggled OFF or ON right from the iPhone.
Some carriers do not provide this capability and require the user to call them.
Therefore I recommend that you contact your carrier for a resolution.

IdrisSeabright posted on Dec 20, 2021 7:42 AM in response to Honlab1 If you're 
a Verizon customer or were a Sprint customer (or using a carrier that uses 
their networks), you will not see that option on your phone.
You will need to manage the options by dialing short codes.
For Verizon, start here:
https://www.verizon.com/support/caller-id-services/
:



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2024 10:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.

And have you called T-Mobile to ask why his does not work for you?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2024 4:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.

Carolyn,
Can I ask you who is your phone carrier?
I'm wondering why this problem with the caller ID is all about.
My phone carrier is T-Mobile.
Janet

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2024 6:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.

I found no Caller ID. I did go through the prompts and tried making it take my 
name, but when I called here, it said Wireless Caller.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Donna Casteen
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2024 11:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Caller ID Help Please.

Carolyn,

Open the Settings app, swipe down to Phone & tap to open, swipe to Caller ID & 
tap to open. Confirm that Caller ID is toggled On.

Donna

>
> I did not find Caller ID in my phone app.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of janet gross
> Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 11:55 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I don’t get the option to show my caller ID.
>
> I go to settings, phone, caller ID, I tap on that, and I then get a 
> message saying in progress but nothing changes. ,
>
>
>
> Janet
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Jonathan Cohn
> Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 9:35 PM
> To: Viphone 
> Subject: Re: Caller ID Help Please.
>
>
>
>
>
> 1. Go to Settings, Tap Phone
>
> 2. Press Show My Caller ID
>
> 3. Use the toggle switch to show or hide your number
>
>
>
>Apparently this does not work with Verizon
>
>
>
>
>
>
>On May 2, 2024, at 

RE: Caller ID Help Please.

[Carolyn Arnold]

I won't lose anything by giving them a call, which I probably will do Monday. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Joseph hudson
Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2024 2:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Caller ID Help Please.

There's definitely not a device fix. But I'm sure that there is a carrier fix. 
I'm currently not a Verizon customer. So I wouldn't be able to do this on 
Carolyn behalf. I had to fix my car ID with a couple other carriers, and they 
were able to fix it. So I'm sure Verizon would be able to do the same.

> On May 4, 2024, at 1:26 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> There is no fix, it seems that Verizon and some other carrier simply don't 
> make this available.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joseph 
> hudson
> Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2024 11:20 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Caller ID Help Please.
> 
> Then my best bet would be to call Verizon and see if they can fix this for 
> you.
> 
>> On May 3, 2024, at 7:26 AM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, our land line is Voice Call, connected to the Internet. 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Joseph hudson
>> Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 10:38 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Caller ID Help Please.
>> 
>> Hi Carolyn, to fix this problem on your landline a call to Verizon is in 
>> order. They can adjust your color ID settings where it will say your name 
>> whenever you call your landline. The only way I don't think this can be 
>> fixed, is if you're using one of those landline connect boxes.
>> 
>>> On May 2, 2024, at 5:10 PM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I went into My Card and put my name in, yet, still mine will show Wireless 
>>> Caller, when I call our landline. I'd like to know what to do about that 
>>> too, Janet. 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of janet gross
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 4:50 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Caller ID Help Please.
>>> 
>>> Hi Everyone, 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Some way some how my caller ID has been turned off.  
>>> 
>>> When I call someone, they always ask why do I have my caller ID not shown.  
>>> 
>>> I went in to  settings, phone, caller ID, tap on show my caller ID, but all 
>>> I get when I do that is a message says in progress.  
>>> 
>>> I can’t seem to turn on my caller ID.  
>>> 
>>> Is there some way I can turn on my caller ID so when I call someone they 
>>> will know the call is coming from me? 
>>> 
>>> I have a XR with 17.4.1. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thank you all.  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Janet 
>>> 
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RE: Caller ID Help Please.

[Carolyn Arnold]

Verizon is my carrier. Who is yours? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
janet gross
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2024 7:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.

Carolyn,
Can I ask you who is your phone carrier?
I'm wondering why this problem with the caller ID is all about.
My phone carrier is T-Mobile.
Janet

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2024 6:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.

I found no Caller ID. I did go through the prompts and tried making it take my 
name, but when I called here, it said Wireless Caller.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Donna Casteen
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2024 11:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Caller ID Help Please.

Carolyn,

Open the Settings app, swipe down to Phone & tap to open, swipe to Caller ID & 
tap to open. Confirm that Caller ID is toggled On.

Donna

>
> I did not find Caller ID in my phone app.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> janet gross
> Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 11:55 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I don’t get the option to show my caller ID.
>
> I go to settings, phone, caller ID, I tap on that, and I then get a message 
> saying in progress but nothing changes. ,
>
>
>
> Janet
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Jonathan Cohn
> Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 9:35 PM
> To: Viphone 
> Subject: Re: Caller ID Help Please.
>
>
>
>
>
> 1. Go to Settings, Tap Phone
>
> 2. Press Show My Caller ID
>
> 3. Use the toggle switch to show or hide your number
>
>
>
>Apparently this does not work with Verizon
>
>
>
>
>
>
>On May 2, 2024, at 6:51 PM, janet gross  <mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com> > wrote:
>
>
>
>Hi Carolyn,
>
>What do you mean when you say your card?
>I am talking about the caller ID on an iPhone.
>I've had caller ID turned on my iPhone for over 5 years.
>I accidentally   turned it off, now that I think of it.
>So, are you saying you don't have caller ID on your phone?
>What kind of a phone do you have?
>
>Janet
>
>-Original Message-
>From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
> Carolyn Arnold
>Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 5:12 PM
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.
>
>On My Card, you can put your picture and name, but mine did not take just 
> my name, and I'm not about to fool with dealing with a picture.
>
>-Original Message-
>From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright
>Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 5:18 PM
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>Subject: Re: Caller ID Help Please.
>
>I looked and saw what you mentioned on my 10R and it said what yours said 
> but mine doesn't have cellular.  My 13 doesn't offer Caller ID.
>
>   - Original Message -
>   From: janet gross <mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>
>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>   Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 2:49 PM
>   Subject: Caller ID Help Please.
>
>
>   Hi Everyone,
>
>
>
>   Some way some how my caller ID has been turned off.
>
>   When I call someone, they always ask why do I have my caller ID not 
> shown.
>
>   I went in to  settings, phone, caller ID, tap on show my caller ID, 
> but all I get when I do that is a message says in progress.
>
>   I can't seem to turn on my caller ID.
>
>   Is there some way I can turn on my caller ID so when I call someone 
> they will know the call is coming from me?
>
>   I have a XR with 17.4.1.
>
>
>
>
>
>   Thank you all.
>
>
>
>   Janet
>
>
>
>   --
>   The following information is important for all members of the V 
> iPhone list.
>
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RE: Caller ID Help Please.

[Carolyn Arnold]

I listed all that was in Phone in an earlier post. It simply is not there. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
janet gross
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2024 7:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.

Hi Carolyn,

I just can't imagine an iPhone without a caller ID feature you can toggle it  
on or off.
That is very strange!

Janet

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2024 6:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.

That is where I have gone - Settings and Phone. I get:

Phone heading
Allow phone to access
Siri and search
Notifications, sounds , badges
Incoming calls, full screen
Announce calls, always
My number, and it gives it
Share Name and photo, Contacts only
Calls heading
Wi-Fi calling off (I have tried numerous times to turn it on, but it does not 
turn on, go figure.
Respond with text
Life Voice Mail off
Silence unknown callers off
Call blocking and identification
Block Contacts
SMS/call call reporting
Change Voicemail password
Dial Assist switch button on
Dial assist automatically determines the correct international or local prefix 
when dialing

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2024 4:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.

It is not in the Phone app, it is in Settings > Phone and it is towards the 
bottom and the exact name is "Show my caller Id, button". It is after Call 
Forwarding and Call Waiting.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2024 5:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.

I did not find Caller ID in my phone app.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
janet gross
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 11:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.

Hi,



I don't get the option to show my caller ID.

I go to settings, phone, caller ID, I tap on that, and I then get a message 
saying in progress but nothing changes. ,



Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jonathan 
Cohn
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 9:35 PM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Re: Caller ID Help Please.





1. Go to Settings, Tap Phone

2. Press Show My Caller ID

3. Use the toggle switch to show or hide your number



Apparently this does not work with Verizon






On May 2, 2024, at 6:51 PM, janet gross mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com> > wrote:



Hi Carolyn,

What do you mean when you say your card?
I am talking about the caller ID on an iPhone.
I've had caller ID turned on my iPhone for over 5 years.
I accidentally   turned it off, now that I think of it.
So, are you saying you don't have caller ID on your phone?
What kind of a phone do you have?

Janet

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 5:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.

On My Card, you can put your picture and name, but mine did not take 
just my name, and I'm not about to fool with dealing with a picture.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 5:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Caller ID Help Please.

I looked and saw what you mentioned on my 10R and it said what yours 
said but mine doesn't have cellular.  My 13 doesn't offer Caller ID.

   - Original Message -
   From: janet gross <mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>
   To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
   Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 2:49 PM
   Subject: Caller ID Help Please.


   Hi Everyone,



   Some way some how my caller ID has been turned off.

   When I call someone, they always ask why do I have my caller ID 
not shown.

   I went in to  settings, phone, caller ID, tap on show my caller 
ID, but all I get when I do that is a message says in progress.

   I can't seem to turn on my caller ID.

   Is there some way I can turn on my caller ID so when I call 
someone they will know the call is coming from me?

  

RE: Caller ID Help Please.

[Carolyn Arnold]

It is strange, and I still can't even find caller ID in Phone in Settings. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
janet gross
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2024 7:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.

James, 

 

Ok I just tried to toggle on the caller ID again, and now I got a message 
saying I can’t save caller ID settings, the only option I get then is to 
dismiss the caller ID settings.  

Thank you any way!  

 

Janet   

 

This gets stranger and stranger.  

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of James 
Bentley
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2024 6:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.

 

Yes.  And I have the option to toggle it on or off.

 

I’m using a third gen I Phone S E 2022 if this helps.

James B 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
janet gross
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2024 12:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.

 

James, 

 

So if the in progress message goes away in about ten seconds, does the caller 
Id show up as it is turned on? 

 

Janet 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
James Bentley
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2024 12:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.

 

I also get the in progress message.  But, if I wait around 10 seconds the in 
progress message goes away.

 

 

James B 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
janet gross
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 10:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.

 

Hi, 

 

I don’t get the option to show my caller ID.  

I go to settings, phone, caller ID, I tap on that, and I then get a message 
saying in progress but nothing changes. ,

 

Janet 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Jonathan Cohn
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 9:35 PM
To: Viphone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: Caller ID Help Please.

 

 

1. Go to Settings, Tap Phone

2. Press Show My Caller ID

3. Use the toggle switch to show or hide your number

 

Apparently this does not work with Verizon 

 

On May 2, 2024, at 6:51 PM, janet gross mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

Hi Carolyn,

What do you mean when you say your card?
I am talking about the caller ID on an iPhone.
I've had caller ID turned on my iPhone for over 5 years.
I accidentally   turned it off, now that I think of it.
So, are you saying you don't have caller ID on your phone?
What kind of a phone do you have?

Janet

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 5:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.

On My Card, you can put your picture and name, but mine did not take 
just my name, and I'm not about to fool with dealing with a picture.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 5:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Caller ID Help Please.

I looked and saw what you mentioned on my 10R and it said what yours 
said but mine doesn't have cellular.  My 13 doesn't offer Caller ID.

   - Original Message -
   From: janet gross <mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>
   To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
   Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 2:49 PM
   Subject: Caller ID Help Please.


   Hi Everyone,



   Some way some how my caller ID has been turned off.

   When I call someone, they always ask why do I have my caller ID 
not shown.

   I went in to  settings, phone, caller ID, tap on show my caller 
ID, but all I get when I do that is a message says in progress.

   I can't seem to turn on my caller ID.

RE: Caller ID Help Please.

[Carolyn Arnold]

That is where I have gone - Settings and Phone. I get:

Phone heading
Allow phone to access
Siri and search
Notifications, sounds , badges
Incoming calls, full screen
Announce calls, always
My number, and it gives it
Share Name and photo, Contacts only
Calls heading
Wi-Fi calling off (I have tried numerous times to turn it on, but it does not 
turn on, go figure.
Respond with text
Life Voice Mail off
Silence unknown callers off
Call blocking and identification
Block Contacts
SMS/call call reporting
Change Voicemail password
Dial Assist switch button on
Dial assist automatically determines the correct international or local prefix 
when dialing

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2024 4:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.

It is not in the Phone app, it is in Settings > Phone and it is towards the 
bottom and the exact name is "Show my caller Id, button". It is after Call 
Forwarding and Call Waiting.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2024 5:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.

I did not find Caller ID in my phone app. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
janet gross
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 11:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.

Hi, 

 

I don’t get the option to show my caller ID.  

I go to settings, phone, caller ID, I tap on that, and I then get a message 
saying in progress but nothing changes. ,

 

Janet 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jonathan 
Cohn
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 9:35 PM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Re: Caller ID Help Please.

 

 

1. Go to Settings, Tap Phone

2. Press Show My Caller ID

3. Use the toggle switch to show or hide your number

 

Apparently this does not work with Verizon 






On May 2, 2024, at 6:51 PM, janet gross mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

Hi Carolyn,

What do you mean when you say your card?
I am talking about the caller ID on an iPhone.
I've had caller ID turned on my iPhone for over 5 years.
I accidentally   turned it off, now that I think of it.
So, are you saying you don't have caller ID on your phone?
What kind of a phone do you have?

Janet

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 5:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.

On My Card, you can put your picture and name, but mine did not take 
just my name, and I'm not about to fool with dealing with a picture.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 5:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Caller ID Help Please.

I looked and saw what you mentioned on my 10R and it said what yours 
said but mine doesn't have cellular.  My 13 doesn't offer Caller ID.

   - Original Message -
   From: janet gross <mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>
   To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
   Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 2:49 PM
   Subject: Caller ID Help Please.


   Hi Everyone,



   Some way some how my caller ID has been turned off.

   When I call someone, they always ask why do I have my caller ID 
not shown.

   I went in to  settings, phone, caller ID, tap on show my caller 
ID, but all I get when I do that is a message says in progress.

   I can't seem to turn on my caller ID.

   Is there some way I can turn on my caller ID so when I call 
someone they will know the call is coming from me?

   I have a XR with 17.4.1.





   Thank you all.



   Janet



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RE: Caller ID Help Please.

[Carolyn Arnold]

I found no Caller ID. I did go through the prompts and tried making it take my 
name, but when I called here, it said Wireless Caller. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Donna Casteen
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2024 11:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Caller ID Help Please.

Carolyn,

Open the Settings app, swipe down to Phone & tap to open, swipe to Caller ID & 
tap to open. Confirm that Caller ID is toggled On.

Donna

> 
> I did not find Caller ID in my phone app.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> janet gross
> Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 11:55 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.
> 
> Hi,
> 
> 
> 
> I don’t get the option to show my caller ID.  
> 
> I go to settings, phone, caller ID, I tap on that, and I then get a message 
> saying in progress but nothing changes. ,
> 
> 
> 
> Janet
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Jonathan Cohn
> Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 9:35 PM
> To: Viphone 
> Subject: Re: Caller ID Help Please.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 1. Go to Settings, Tap Phone
> 
> 2. Press Show My Caller ID
> 
> 3. Use the toggle switch to show or hide your number
> 
>
> 
>Apparently this does not work with Verizon
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>On May 2, 2024, at 6:51 PM, janet gross  <mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com> > wrote:
> 
>
> 
>Hi Carolyn,
>
>What do you mean when you say your card?
>I am talking about the caller ID on an iPhone.
>I've had caller ID turned on my iPhone for over 5 years.
>I accidentally   turned it off, now that I think of it.
>So, are you saying you don't have caller ID on your phone?
>What kind of a phone do you have?
>
>Janet
>
>-Original Message-
>From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
> Carolyn Arnold
>Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 5:12 PM
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.
>
>On My Card, you can put your picture and name, but mine did not take just 
> my name, and I'm not about to fool with dealing with a picture.
>
>-Original Message-
>From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright
>Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 5:18 PM
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>Subject: Re: Caller ID Help Please.
>
>I looked and saw what you mentioned on my 10R and it said what yours said 
> but mine doesn't have cellular.  My 13 doesn't offer Caller ID.
>
>   - Original Message -
>   From: janet gross <mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>
>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>   Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 2:49 PM
>   Subject: Caller ID Help Please.
>
>
>   Hi Everyone,
>
>
>
>   Some way some how my caller ID has been turned off.
>
>   When I call someone, they always ask why do I have my caller ID not 
> shown.
>
>   I went in to  settings, phone, caller ID, tap on show my caller ID, 
> but all I get when I do that is a message says in progress.
>
>   I can't seem to turn on my caller ID.
>
>   Is there some way I can turn on my caller ID so when I call someone 
> they will know the call is coming from me?
>
>   I have a XR with 17.4.1.
>
>
>
>
>
>   Thank you all.
>
>
>
>   Janet
>
>
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RE: Caller ID Help Please.

[Carolyn Arnold]

On my 14 Pro, there was no caller ID in Phone in Settings. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robert Doc Wright
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2024 10:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Caller ID Help Please.

It is not an app. On the 10R it shows as part of the phone app in settings.
- Original Message - 
From: "Carolyn Arnold" <2carolynarn...@gmail.com>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 6:03 PM
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.


I have a 14 Pro, but think whether or not this can be done has to do more 
with updates, and I do have 17.4.1. I did not know of an app called Caller 
ID.

Yes, My Card is it is first in your contacts, should have your name. You can 
go into it and press Edit at the right top, like any other and put in your 
name in the fields. However, I did not include a picture with mine, and 
somehow, the name did not display, when I tried it on our home landline.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of janet gross
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 6:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.

Hi Carolyn,

What do you mean when you say your card?
I am talking about the caller ID on an iPhone.
I've had caller ID turned on my iPhone for over 5 years.
I accidentally   turned it off, now that I think of it.
So, are you saying you don't have caller ID on your phone?
What kind of a phone do you have?

Janet

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 5:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.

On My Card, you can put your picture and name, but mine did not take just my 
name, and I'm not about to fool with dealing with a picture.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Robert Doc Wright
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 5:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Caller ID Help Please.

I looked and saw what you mentioned on my 10R and it said what yours said 
but mine doesn't have cellular.  My 13 doesn't offer Caller ID.

- Original Message -
From: janet gross <mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 2:49 PM
Subject: Caller ID Help Please.


Hi Everyone,



Some way some how my caller ID has been turned off.

When I call someone, they always ask why do I have my caller ID not 
shown.

I went in to  settings, phone, caller ID, tap on show my caller ID, 
but all I get when I do that is a message says in progress.

I can't seem to turn on my caller ID.

Is there some way I can turn on my caller ID so when I call someone 
they will know the call is coming from me?

I have a XR with 17.4.1.





Thank you all.



Janet



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RE: Caller ID Help Please.

[Carolyn Arnold]

I did not find Caller ID in my phone app. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
janet gross
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 11:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.

Hi, 

 

I don’t get the option to show my caller ID.  

I go to settings, phone, caller ID, I tap on that, and I then get a message 
saying in progress but nothing changes. ,

 

Janet 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jonathan 
Cohn
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 9:35 PM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Re: Caller ID Help Please.

 

 

1. Go to Settings, Tap Phone

2. Press Show My Caller ID

3. Use the toggle switch to show or hide your number

 

Apparently this does not work with Verizon 






On May 2, 2024, at 6:51 PM, janet gross mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

Hi Carolyn,

What do you mean when you say your card?
I am talking about the caller ID on an iPhone.
I've had caller ID turned on my iPhone for over 5 years.
I accidentally   turned it off, now that I think of it.
So, are you saying you don't have caller ID on your phone?
What kind of a phone do you have?

Janet

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 5:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.

On My Card, you can put your picture and name, but mine did not take 
just my name, and I'm not about to fool with dealing with a picture.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 5:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Caller ID Help Please.

I looked and saw what you mentioned on my 10R and it said what yours 
said but mine doesn't have cellular.  My 13 doesn't offer Caller ID.

   - Original Message -
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   To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
   Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 2:49 PM
   Subject: Caller ID Help Please.


   Hi Everyone,



   Some way some how my caller ID has been turned off.

   When I call someone, they always ask why do I have my caller ID 
not shown.

   I went in to  settings, phone, caller ID, tap on show my caller 
ID, but all I get when I do that is a message says in progress.

   I can't seem to turn on my caller ID.

   Is there some way I can turn on my caller ID so when I call 
someone they will know the call is coming from me?

   I have a XR with 17.4.1.





   Thank you all.



   Janet



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RE: Caller ID Help Please.

[Carolyn Arnold]

Yes, our land line is Voice Call, connected to the Internet. 

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Joseph hudson
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 10:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Caller ID Help Please.

Hi Carolyn, to fix this problem on your landline a call to Verizon is in order. 
They can adjust your color ID settings where it will say your name whenever you 
call your landline. The only way I don't think this can be fixed, is if you're 
using one of those landline connect boxes.

> On May 2, 2024, at 5:10 PM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I went into My Card and put my name in, yet, still mine will show Wireless 
> Caller, when I call our landline. I'd like to know what to do about that too, 
> Janet. 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> janet gross
> Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 4:50 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Caller ID Help Please.
> 
> Hi Everyone, 
> 
> 
> 
> Some way some how my caller ID has been turned off.  
> 
> When I call someone, they always ask why do I have my caller ID not shown.  
> 
> I went in to  settings, phone, caller ID, tap on show my caller ID, but all I 
> get when I do that is a message says in progress.  
> 
> I can’t seem to turn on my caller ID.  
> 
> Is there some way I can turn on my caller ID so when I call someone they will 
> know the call is coming from me? 
> 
> I have a XR with 17.4.1. 
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> Thank you all.  
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RE: Caller ID Help Please.

[Carolyn Arnold]

Well then, I went into phone and found no caller ID. 

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janet gross
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 8:33 PM
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Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.

Carolyn,

I don't know about the card other then having your name in the contacts, but 
that shouldn't have anything to do with it.
Have you ever gone through the settings, phone, caller ID?
That is where I find mine.
I have always had the caller ID option to turn on or off on any of my phones.
I don't know of any iPhone or any phone for that matter that doesn't have 
caller ID though.
I have the caller ID turned on so when I call someone, they will know  where 
the call is coming from.
Some people don't answer their phone if they don't know where the call is 
coming from.


Janet
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 7:03 PM
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Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.

I have a 14 Pro, but think whether or not this can be done has to do more with 
updates, and I do have 17.4.1. I did not know of an app called Caller ID.

Yes, My Card is it is first in your contacts, should have your name. You can go 
into it and press Edit at the right top, like any other and put in your name in 
the fields. However, I did not include a picture with mine, and somehow, the 
name did not display, when I tried it on our home landline.

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janet gross
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 6:51 PM
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Hi Carolyn,

What do you mean when you say your card?
I am talking about the caller ID on an iPhone.
I've had caller ID turned on my iPhone for over 5 years.
I accidentally   turned it off, now that I think of it.
So, are you saying you don't have caller ID on your phone?
What kind of a phone do you have?

Janet

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Arnold
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 5:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.

On My Card, you can put your picture and name, but mine did not take just my 
name, and I'm not about to fool with dealing with a picture.

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Robert Doc Wright
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 5:18 PM
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Subject: Re: Caller ID Help Please.

I looked and saw what you mentioned on my 10R and it said what yours said but 
mine doesn't have cellular.  My 13 doesn't offer Caller ID.

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Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 2:49 PM
Subject: Caller ID Help Please.


Hi Everyone,



Some way some how my caller ID has been turned off.

When I call someone, they always ask why do I have my caller ID not 
shown.

I went in to  settings, phone, caller ID, tap on show my caller ID, but 
all I get when I do that is a message says in progress.

I can't seem to turn on my caller ID.

Is there some way I can turn on my caller ID so when I call someone 
they will know the call is coming from me?

I have a XR with 17.4.1.





Thank you all.



Janet



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RE: Caller ID Help Please.

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I have a 14 Pro, but think whether or not this can be done has to do more with 
updates, and I do have 17.4.1. I did not know of an app called Caller ID. 

Yes, My Card is it is first in your contacts, should have your name. You can go 
into it and press Edit at the right top, like any other and put in your name in 
the fields. However, I did not include a picture with mine, and somehow, the 
name did not display, when I tried it on our home landline. 

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janet gross
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 6:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.

Hi Carolyn,

What do you mean when you say your card?
I am talking about the caller ID on an iPhone.
I've had caller ID turned on my iPhone for over 5 years.
I accidentally   turned it off, now that I think of it.
So, are you saying you don't have caller ID on your phone?
What kind of a phone do you have?

Janet

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 5:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Caller ID Help Please.

On My Card, you can put your picture and name, but mine did not take just my 
name, and I'm not about to fool with dealing with a picture.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robert Doc Wright
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 5:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Caller ID Help Please.

I looked and saw what you mentioned on my 10R and it said what yours said but 
mine doesn't have cellular.  My 13 doesn't offer Caller ID.

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 2:49 PM
Subject: Caller ID Help Please.


Hi Everyone,



Some way some how my caller ID has been turned off.

When I call someone, they always ask why do I have my caller ID not 
shown.

I went in to  settings, phone, caller ID, tap on show my caller ID, but 
all I get when I do that is a message says in progress.

I can't seem to turn on my caller ID.

Is there some way I can turn on my caller ID so when I call someone 
they will know the call is coming from me?

I have a XR with 17.4.1.





Thank you all.



Janet



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RE: Caller ID Help Please.

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On My Card, you can put your picture and name, but mine did not take just my 
name, and I'm not about to fool with dealing with a picture. 

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I looked and saw what you mentioned on my 10R and it said what yours said but 
mine doesn't have cellular.  My 13 doesn't offer Caller ID.

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com   
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2024 2:49 PM
Subject: Caller ID Help Please.


Hi Everyone, 

 

Some way some how my caller ID has been turned off.  

When I call someone, they always ask why do I have my caller ID not 
shown.  

I went in to  settings, phone, caller ID, tap on show my caller ID, but 
all I get when I do that is a message says in progress.  

I can’t seem to turn on my caller ID.  

Is there some way I can turn on my caller ID so when I call someone 
they will know the call is coming from me? 

I have a XR with 17.4.1. 

 

 

Thank you all.  

 

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RE: Caller ID Help Please.

[Carolyn Arnold]

I went into My Card and put my name in, yet, still mine will show Wireless 
Caller, when I call our landline. I'd like to know what to do about that too, 
Janet. 

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Hi Everyone, 

 

Some way some how my caller ID has been turned off.  

When I call someone, they always ask why do I have my caller ID not shown.  

I went in to  settings, phone, caller ID, tap on show my caller ID, but all I 
get when I do that is a message says in progress.  

I can’t seem to turn on my caller ID.  

Is there some way I can turn on my caller ID so when I call someone they will 
know the call is coming from me? 

I have a XR with 17.4.1. 

 

 

Thank you all.  

 

Janet 

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RE: phone purchase advice

[Carolyn Arnold]

I think you are right on, Chris. 

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HI. Regardless of whether you get one of the 14, or 15 models I’d definitely go 
with either the pro or max if you can afford it. From what I understand the 
main differences between the pro and the max are screen size and battery. The 
battery is larger in the max so you will get more time between charges, but the 
screen is also larger which makes the phone bigger. If you have no need for the 
larger screen, if you don’t have sufficient vision to take advantage of it, or 
if you aren’t interested in on-screen Braille input which is easier on the max, 
I see little need to go with a max. Others might have varying opinions.

 

Chris Judge

 



 

 



 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicki W.
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2024 9:02 AM
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Subject: phone purchase advice

 

Hi,

 

I am about to purchase a new phone this week and I am debating between the 
IPhone 14 and the 14 plus. Does anyone have any suggestions as far as 
differences with the phones themselves or using Voice Over with either one?

 

Thanks.

 

Vicki

 

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RE: phone purchase advice

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If you get the 14 Pro, it has LiDAR, and with it, you can get environmental 
information in Magnification. 

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Hi,
 
I am about to purchase a new phone this week and I am debating between the 
IPhone 14 and the 14 plus. Does anyone have any suggestions as far as 
differences with the phones themselves or using Voice Over with either one?
 
Thanks.
 
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RE: Out going Phone Calls on my iPhone.

[Carolyn Arnold]

I doubt you'd find names, if the numbers called are not in your Contacts. 

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janet gross
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Hi, 

 

This particular   phone number is to a Sheriff’s   Office.  

 

I never made the call.  

This  has been happening for at least over a year.  

There has been several many other  numbers as well.  

I very seldom find any names connected to the numbers I search.  

 

Janet 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2024 8:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Out going Phone Calls on my iPhone.

 

Even if that would be the case, such calls would not show up in the Recent call 
list on the iPhone.

What sort of numbers are they? It's easy to look up an area code to see where 
the number is. Does anybody else have access to your phone? I can't really 
think of any situation where an outgoing call just shows up unless the call was 
made. Also, have you checked to see how long these calls were?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Jennie Facer
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2024 5:11 PM
To: via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: Out going Phone Calls on my iPhone.

 

Call T-Mobile and ask them if anyone is spoofing your number. What that means 
is someone has your number and is somehow making calls from it to other people 
trying to make money. I hope this helps  a little bit.

 

Jenn

Jennie Facer

TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE, BUT TO SOMEONE YOU ARE THE WORLD!

 

On Apr 24, 2024, at 5:23 PM, janet gross mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

Hi Everyone, 

 

Recently I have been noticing several out going calls on my phone in 
the recent phone app. 

I didn’t make those calls.  

A few weeks ago, I called my phone carrier T-Mobile, and they said they 
checked everything they could on there end, and everything looked fine. 

They also said they don’t see the out going calls I was telling them 
about though. 

They got Apple on the phone, because they said those calls might be 
because I have them backed up they might be in the Apple Cloud.

Apple said there isn’t anything they can do.  

So once again, I am in between my phone carrier, and Apple. 

So now, this morning there is another call on my phone saying it is a 
out going call, but I didn’t make that call either. 

Can someone please shed some light on this, as this just doesn’t make 
any sense. 

I am using an XR iPhone with 17.4.1. 

 

I would greatly appreciate some suggestions.  .

 

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RE: Mobile phone unwanted and scam monitoring.

[Carolyn Arnold]

I am pretty sure that the reason I get as many as I do is that I got a company 
to help me find the best medical insurance rates available to me in this 
county. I think they sold my name to whomever. Most of them that I hear 
anything from talk about medical plans or benefits. I don't get them over the 
weekends, as a rule. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2024 11:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Mobile phone unwanted and scam monitoring.

It's easy enough to clear missed calls and actually picking up the call even if 
you hang up right away may  be a cause why you keep getting these calls. I once 
read that if you pick up the call, the computer on the other end knows that it 
has called a valid number so it will continue to do so. Pretty much all these 
spam calls nowadyas are made by computers, it's not like there is a real person 
sitting there with a big list of numbers which they then call. Instead the 
computer dials hundreds and thousands of numbers and only when somebody picks 
up the call is then routed to a person who will say whatever it is they say and 
of course in some cases you don't even get that but instead you get one of 
these calls where the automated system on the other end tells you that your 
social insurance number was used in some illegal way and unless you press 1 to 
speak with somebody, you will be arrested and the  most horrible things will be 
done to you, your children, grand children, nephews, nieces, your dog, cat and 
gold fish. I wonder why some people get so many calls, I have had the same cell 
number for probably 25 years now and I use it as my main number everywhere I 
sign up for an account online, and while I get the occasional spam call, it's 
probably not more than a handful a year.


Best regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2024 4:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Mobile phone unwanted and scam monitoring.

Wow, and three or four a year, I get more of those in a day, generally four to 
five, occasionally six. I answer, then hang up, because I don't want the 
imposition of missed call, every time I open my phone for Weather, Health, etc. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Larry Smith
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2024 6:06 PM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Re: Mobile phone unwanted and scam monitoring.

If the U.S. offers this feature, I’m not aware of it.  

> On Apr 11, 2024, at 1:04 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Don't US carriers offer a feature which requires a caller to press a random 
> number before the call is connected? Here in Canada you can ask for this and 
> if for example I call somebody who has this activated, I hear the following 
> message:
> 
> The subscriber you are calling has call control. Please press 5 to be 
> connected.
> 
> Of course the "5" is just an example, it could be any number, like I said, 
> it's random and a different one each time you call, it could be 1, 8, 3 etc. 
> The point is that unless you press the correct number you will not be 
> connected. Only thing which could be an issue is when you get a call from a 
> legitimate automatic system. For example, sometimes a health care provider 
> may have an automated system calling you to remind you of an appointment and 
> in some cases you may have to press 1 to confirm the appointment. Otherwise 
> this seems to be very effective. I don't personally have this activated on my 
> phone because I don't actually get many such calls, maybe 3 or 4 a year and 
> in those cases I just hang up once I realize it's not a legitimate call.
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> Sieghard 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2024 9:36 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Mobile phone unwanted and scam monitoring.
> 
> Hi Larry,
> This might not be what you want to hear, but I am also a T-Mobile user, and 
> never found Scam Shield all that great. So what I do is the nuclear approach, 
> which means I have set the setting in my iPhone so that the only calls that 
> ring through are those in my contacts. I get notifications if there’s a 
> voicemail, And the bad side of this of course is that if you’re getting a 
> call from somebody that’s not in your contacts, you’re going to have to call 
> them back. So that’s the downside. The upside is I don’t get spam calls on my 
> phone ever. It’s worth it to me. 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 11, 2024, at 5:58 AM, Larry Smith  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello list members. I was wondering if anyone is using an a

RE: High speed voiceover

[Carolyn Arnold]

When it is doing it, get your rotor to Speech Speed. Flick down to make it 
slower. 

-Original Message-
From: 'mike' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2024 10:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: High speed voiceover

Hello Everyone


After a recent upgrade to the ios, voiceover is now talking at a speed I just 
ca't understand.  I have change the percentage via settings but it doesn't make 
any difference.  What is the best way to reduce thhe speed of voiceover?


With thanks


Mike.


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RE: Mobile phone unwanted and scam monitoring.

[Carolyn Arnold]

Wow, and three or four a year, I get more of those in a day, generally four to 
five, occasionally six. I answer, then hang up, because I don't want the 
imposition of missed call, every time I open my phone for Weather, Health, etc. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Larry Smith
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2024 6:06 PM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Re: Mobile phone unwanted and scam monitoring.

If the U.S. offers this feature, I’m not aware of it.  

> On Apr 11, 2024, at 1:04 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Don't US carriers offer a feature which requires a caller to press a random 
> number before the call is connected? Here in Canada you can ask for this and 
> if for example I call somebody who has this activated, I hear the following 
> message:
> 
> The subscriber you are calling has call control. Please press 5 to be 
> connected.
> 
> Of course the "5" is just an example, it could be any number, like I said, 
> it's random and a different one each time you call, it could be 1, 8, 3 etc. 
> The point is that unless you press the correct number you will not be 
> connected. Only thing which could be an issue is when you get a call from a 
> legitimate automatic system. For example, sometimes a health care provider 
> may have an automated system calling you to remind you of an appointment and 
> in some cases you may have to press 1 to confirm the appointment. Otherwise 
> this seems to be very effective. I don't personally have this activated on my 
> phone because I don't actually get many such calls, maybe 3 or 4 a year and 
> in those cases I just hang up once I realize it's not a legitimate call.
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> Sieghard 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2024 9:36 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Mobile phone unwanted and scam monitoring.
> 
> Hi Larry,
> This might not be what you want to hear, but I am also a T-Mobile user, and 
> never found Scam Shield all that great. So what I do is the nuclear approach, 
> which means I have set the setting in my iPhone so that the only calls that 
> ring through are those in my contacts. I get notifications if there’s a 
> voicemail, And the bad side of this of course is that if you’re getting a 
> call from somebody that’s not in your contacts, you’re going to have to call 
> them back. So that’s the downside. The upside is I don’t get spam calls on my 
> phone ever. It’s worth it to me. 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 11, 2024, at 5:58 AM, Larry Smith  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello list members. I was wondering if anyone is using an app to monitor 
>> and screen calls on their mobile phone. I am a t-mobile user. Scam shield 
>> does not do a very good job at least for me. I have used both the free and 
>> premium version. I was using robokiller until this month. It did an ok job, 
>> but their subscription service went from $24.99 to $74.99. I don’t mind the 
>> subscription increase so much. It didn’t always work as advertised. So, 
>> before I decided to renew or not, I thought I would ask what app others on 
>> this list might be using. I have also tried TrueCaller but Just couldn’t get 
>> id to work properly. Thanks
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RE: calls getting cut off.

[Carolyn Arnold]

That is interesting, and if it is, that could cause the sensitivity to 
increase? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2024 11:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: calls getting cut off.

Or it could simply be a dirty screen. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2024 10:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: calls getting cut off.

The only thing I can think of is that something else is touching the screen, 
like your face or another finger, so a single touch is being interpreted as a 
split tap. If the focus is on the end call button then this will terminate the 
call. I'm not sure if this is what's happening or not. It's just speculation on 
my part.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2024 10:46 AM
To: viPhone 
Subject: calls getting cut off.

Anyone have any idea when I'm on a call, that simply touching the screen 
anywhere can cut off a call - no pressing, not near end call, just simply 
contact with screen?

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RE: calls getting cut off.

[Carolyn Arnold]

I called my phone from a land line, and fooled around on the screen and did not 
cut myself off, so I am hoping this is the solution, Arnold, thanks. 

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Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2024 3:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: calls getting cut off.

This subject was discussed here a couple months ago, and after a few tries, I 
may have found the answer in the archives, although I wouldn't bet next week's 
check on it. The problem has never occured on my cheap phone, only on the last 
couple pro models. Go into voiceover settings, rotor, and find direct touch. 
Then, go into the apps that this direct touch affects, and deselect phone. I 
did this to see if it would stop the two-finger double tap from ending a call, 
and it did not. I hope it won't stop  it from  answering  a call. Let me know 
if this works. 

Arnold Schmidt 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 3

On Apr 11, 2024, at 2:01 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:

Hello Carolyn,

My best guess is that there is something touching the phone.  You may want to 
remove your phone's case and see what happens.  Another issue is that there 
could be a problem with the screen protector currently installed on the 
display, if any.

First, however, if there is a case, remove it and then make some trial calls.

Good luck,

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2024 8:46 AM
To: viPhone 
Subject: calls getting cut off.

Anyone have any idea when I'm on a call, that simply touching the screen 
anywhere can cut off a call - no pressing, not near end call, just simply 
contact with screen?

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RE: Mobile phone unwanted and scam monitoring.

[Carolyn Arnold]

I answer and immediately disconnect so that I won't be bugged with a missed 
call announcement anytime I go into my phone. 

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Maybe Verizon is better than some at stopping those calls, I don't get many of 
them any more. Or, maybe it is that I simply don't answer the call if I don't 
recognize the number or it says the contact name, unless I am expecting a call 
whose number I may not recognize.   I figured that the telemarketing systems 
would catch onto the fact that I never answered their calls and would delete my 
number after a while. If it is a legitimate call, let them leave a voice mail 
and I will call back.

Arnold Schmidt  


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Hi Larry,
This might not be what you want to hear, but I am also a T-Mobile user, and 
never found Scam Shield all that great. So what I do is the nuclear approach, 
which means I have set the setting in my iPhone so that the only calls that 
ring through are those in my contacts. I get notifications if there’s a 
voicemail, And the bad side of this of course is that if you’re getting a call 
from somebody that’s not in your contacts, you’re going to have to call them 
back. So that’s the downside. The upside is I don’t get spam calls on my phone 
ever. It’s worth it to me.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 11, 2024, at 5:58 AM, Larry Smith  wrote:
> 
> Hello list members. I was wondering if anyone is using an app to monitor and 
> screen calls on their mobile phone. I am a t-mobile user. Scam shield does 
> not do a very good job at least for me. I have used both the free and premium 
> version. I was using robokiller until this month. It did an ok job, but their 
> subscription service went from $24.99 to $74.99. I don’t mind the 
> subscription increase so much. It didn’t always work as advertised. So, 
> before I decided to renew or not, I thought I would ask what app others on 
> this list might be using. I have also tried TrueCaller but Just couldn’t get 
> id to work properly. Thanks
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RE: calls getting cut off.

[Carolyn Arnold]

I will be observant next time to figure out if more than one thing makes 
contact. I do not think that is happening, but it is a suggestion worth looking 
into, thanks. 

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Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2024 1:55 PM
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Subject: RE: calls getting cut off.

The only thing I can think of is that something else is touching the screen, 
like your face or another finger, so a single touch is being interpreted as a 
split tap. If the focus is on the end call button then this will terminate the 
call. I'm not sure if this is what's happening or not. It's just speculation on 
my part.

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Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2024 10:46 AM
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Subject: calls getting cut off.

Anyone have any idea when I'm on a call, that simply touching the screen 
anywhere can cut off a call - no pressing, not near end call, just simply 
contact with screen?

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RE: calls getting cut off.

[Carolyn Arnold]

Thank you. I followed your instructions, opened Phone, went to Recents and 
checked calls; that is all working. So maybe this is a solution, thanks. 

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Arnold Schmidt
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Subject: Re: calls getting cut off.

This subject was discussed here a couple months ago, and after a few tries, I 
may have found the answer in the archives, although I wouldn't bet next week's 
check on it. The problem has never occured on my cheap phone, only on the last 
couple pro models. Go into voiceover settings, rotor, and find direct touch. 
Then, go into the apps that this direct touch affects, and deselect phone. I 
did this to see if it would stop the two-finger double tap from ending a call, 
and it did not. I hope it won't stop  it from  answering  a call. Let me know 
if this works. 

Arnold Schmidt 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 3

On Apr 11, 2024, at 2:01 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:

Hello Carolyn,

My best guess is that there is something touching the phone.  You may want to 
remove your phone's case and see what happens.  Another issue is that there 
could be a problem with the screen protector currently installed on the 
display, if any.

First, however, if there is a case, remove it and then make some trial calls.

Good luck,

Mark

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Subject: calls getting cut off.

Anyone have any idea when I'm on a call, that simply touching the screen 
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RE: calls getting cut off.

[Carolyn Arnold]

Yes, there is a case and a screen protector, worth exploring, thanks. 

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From: M. Taylor [mailto:mk...@ucla.edu] On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2024 2:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: calls getting cut off.

Hello Carolyn,

My best guess is that there is something touching the phone.  You may want to 
remove your phone's case and see what happens.  Another issue is that there 
could be a problem with the screen protector currently installed on the 
display, if any.

First, however, if there is a case, remove it and then make some trial calls.

Good luck,

Mark

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calls getting cut off.

[Carolyn Arnold]

Anyone have any idea when I'm on a call, that simply
touching the screen anywhere can cut off a call - no
pressing, not near end call, just simply contact with
screen? 

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RE: Question about the Native Health App

[Carolyn Arnold]

And, as far as the Health App, I have tried to revise my weight, which is 10 
pounds than it was, when I set it up, and so far, have been unable to do that. 

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Subject: Question about the Native Health App

I have used the medications part of the Health app just enough to set up the 
two medications I take: a once weekly pill and a once daily pill. My question 
concerns one of the meds my husband takes. It's a pill he takes daily for 21 
days but not on the following 7 days. Can the health app handle such a cycle, 
or would we need a different app?

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RE: Beware of IOS Automatic Updates And Cellular/WiFi Settings

[Carolyn Arnold]

One time, after an update, for some crazy reason, my cellular data was cut off, 
and I have unlimited. That kind of thing is an unnecessary problem, which is 
annoying to me, but regardless of whether I liked it or not, it was what it 
was. I just don't get though, why changes take places in people's phones with 
updates. 

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Ron Canazzi
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Subject: Beware of IOS Automatic Updates And Cellular/WiFi Settings

Hi Group,

On two of my iPhones, with the update a few weeks ago to IOS 17.4, after the 
reboot after installing, apparently, both iPhones had changed my setting from 
cellular data/off to cellular data/on.  I have a 1 GB data limit. I did not 
notice that this had happened until I got a warning that I had already exceeded 
my data limit for both devices.  This will cost me an additional $19.95 this 
month. This has never happened before. So just be careful and check major 
settings such as ones that could cost you money after you update the operating 
system.

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RE: Updating to iOS 17.4.1, and Voice Mail Messages.

[Carolyn Arnold]

That is great news, Janet. Glad you found the right fix. 

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janet gross
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Subject: Updating to iOS 17.4.1, and Voice Mail Messages.

Hi Everyone, 

 

I finally updated to iOS 17.4.1 from the advice of Apple.  

Sure enough, it worked.  

As soon as I updated, I restarted my phone, and there were some of my voice 
mail messages I was saving.  

I then went in to the deleted folder, and undeleted the messages I wanted to 
put back in my Voice Mail Messages folder.   

At least when I talked to an Apple rep this last time, she told me the iOS 
17.4.1 was to fix the issue I was having, and Apple was aware of this issue, as 
it happened to others.   

So, I wasn’t the only one who was having this problem.  

 

Janet 

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RE: taking part in a group chat

[Carolyn Arnold]

Trying asking Siri to read messages, and when she reads from family chat, if 
she doesn't ask if you want to reply, get her to reply to famiy chat. 

I was on a group chat liast qt my church, and there was a time, when all these 
names would read out on the thing, but it seems like it quit, and now I'm not 
going there, so am not getting them. My sister has a small chat group, and I 
ask Siri to read message, and when Siri asks me if I want to reply, I dictate a 
reply. 

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Vicki W.
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2024 5:19 PM
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Subject: taking part in a group chat

Hi,
 
One of my family members has a group chat which she has added me to. it is the 
type of group chat which is created and then people are manually added so they 
can take part.
 
Here is an example to explain it better.
 
Mary creates a chat and calls it "Family Chat."
 
She then invites people through the add option to be part of that chat and 
anyone who joins can add someone as well. 
 
There are 16 people in this chat, all of whom are in my contact list. When the 
messages come in, they show up as being from "Family Chat."
 
How can I reply to or create a message by using SIRI. Normally I would just say 
"Send a message to whoever and then I could speak the message, it would repeat 
it and give me the option to send.
 
Since it is coming up as "Family Chat," how can I either reply to or initiate 
an original message without saying all 16 names separately?
 
Hope that makes sense.
 
Vicki
 

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RE: improvements in SIRI?

[Carolyn Arnold]

I hope, and I am sick of what she can find on the Net; I can do that for 
myself. 

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Hi all.  SIRI Still stops herself in the middle of text messages, and does 
other strange things.  Is there any improvement in 17.4.1?  Just hoping.  Also, 
where is the best place to report frustration with SIRI?  

God bless!

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RE: Question about Gmail?

[Carolyn Arnold]

Native works for me. 

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Andy Baracco
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That's what I do and it works just fine.

Andy


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Subject: Question about Gmail?

Hello everybody I am running latest version of iOS 16 in the SE 202 second 
edition. I was just wondering is the native mail app the best way to manage and 
use Gmail. I’m using the native mail app right now and everything seems to be 
OK. Just wondering if I might be better off if I got the actual Gmail app? it 
seems like everything seems to work out OK at this point. Just wondering what 
y’all might think. 

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RE: seeking tutorial

[Carolyn Arnold]

Vicki, if you can find Rita Howel's tutorial on how to use phones without the 
Home Button, if you are anything like I am, you'll never look back. I am not 
sure where you would find it. Here is what I can tell you:

To open phone, place finger at the bottom of the phone, and you'll hear a 
little bleep. Slide finger up until you hear one more bleep, and you will be at 
your home page. Slide from bottom bleep to Home Page bleep and then to the next 
one, which has taken you to App Switcher. 

If you want Control Center, place finger at the very top of your screen; you'll 
hear the little bleep. Slide finger down to the next Bleep, and you are at 
Control Center, and one more, and you'll be at Notifications. 

I never had any problem with it and would not want to go back to a Home Button 
now.

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Jennie Facer
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Subject: Re: seeking tutorial

Hello,

I also wanted to piggy back on what Michael said. You don’t have to use Face Id 
with any phone. The only draw back is that you will have to use a passcode 
every time you want to unlock your phone if you have one set up. I really 
advise you to set one up as that puts your phone at risk for a lot of things. 
Just my humble opinion.

Jenn

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On Mar 21, 2024, at 4:06 AM, Vicki W.  wrote:

Hi,
 
I am switching from the original SE to either a 14 or 15. Since I have 
never had to deal with face ID or a phone without a home key, does anyone have 
any suggestions as to where I can get a tutorial for the new gestures and 
features of either of those phones?
 
Also, I was told that one of the 15 models gives you the option of 
using face ID or not. Is that true, and if so, which one?
 
Thank you.
 
Vicki
 

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RE: Iphone 15 pro max volume-up-down causes announcing ringtone mode

[Carolyn Arnold]

On my iPhone 14 Pro, Silent Mode and Ring Mode are what is announced when 
muting or unmuting my phone. 

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Subject: Iphone 15 pro max volume-up-down causes announcing ringtone mode

Hi folks 

 

With older iphones, we had a switch key underneath the volume buttons, now the 
iphone 15 pro has an action button for which I have set another action than 
sound on or off. 

 

But now when I press volume-up, very regularly, my iphone announces the word 
ringtone mode. Can anybody reproduce this, is this normal behaviour or a bug?

Davy 

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RE: Apps and Widgets

[Carolyn Arnold]

Thank you; that worked! 

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Christopher Chaltain
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Subject: RE: Apps and Widgets

If you go to the Journal app on your home page, flick down and double tap on 
edit, and then flick down to edit while still on your Journal app, you'll be 
able to delete it from your home page. Not sure if Apple let's you delete it 
altogether, but you can still get if off of your home age.

When you remove apps from your home page but leave them on your phone, you can 
still get to them from the App Library or spotlight search. To get to the App 
Library, do a three finger swipe left from your last home page. I bring up the 
spotlight search by tapping on the page switcher / search option right above 
the dock. I never have to type more than a character or two to get to the app 
I'm looking for.

I just have two home pages now, with only one or two folders. I use them for my 
most frequently accessed apps and the rest I get to with the spotlight search 
or the App Library.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Friday, March 8, 2024 9:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apps and Widgets

I tried to get a widget for Weather and ended up only  moving Weather to 
another place on my Home Page, which is an OK location.

One thing I'd like off my Home Page is Journal, and I would be OK with it 
totally out of my phone, and I'd like to move Find My to my Home Page. I find, 
if I'm not careful, when trying to edit apps, more than one will move, if I'm 
not really careful.

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Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, March 8, 2024 9:07 AM
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Subject: RE: Apps and Widgets

Thanks Chris,

I had figured out some of that, but the stack information is very helpful.

A tip: it is quicker to get to the various choices of widget sizes and so on by 
doing a three finger swipe from right to left.  As if you were flicking a page 
in a physical book.  And of course, to go back, three finger swipe left to 
right.



I may experiment with stacks once I decide what I want quick access to.



Thanks again,





Richard, USA

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chris 
Chaffin
Sent: Friday, March 8, 2024 5:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apps and Widgets





You can have a widget on any of your home screens.  I personally have a widget 
stack on the first screen of my home pages, and I have a second stack on the 
second screen.





First, before adding a widget, you need to know the different sizes and how 
much of the home screen each one will take up.  Keep in mind, the smaller the 
widget, the less information it can display.  there are 3 sizes, they are:



1, small, covers a two by two grid on the home screen.

2, Medium, covers a four by two grid on home screen.

3, Large, covers a four by four grid on home screen.



Now, how to add a widget.



1, On the screen you want to add a widget, flick up on any app and choose edit.

2, In the top left of the screen double tap the add button.

3, Swipe down the list of widgets and choose the app you want to add a widget 
from.  Please note:  The first in the list are just recommendations, I would 
swipe on down until you get to where the alphabetical order list starts.

4, After double tapping on the app you want, you are put on the screen where 
you can find all of the widgets offered by that app.

5, Its best if you start at the bottom of the widget screen, so do a four 
finger single tap near the bottom to jump there.

6, The last thing on the screen is the close button.  Now swipe up to the left 
until you get to the pages.  This is how many different widgets you can choose 
from.  Now if you swipe one more time up to the left, you will get a 
description of the first widget and its size.

6, If you want to see what else is available, or do not want the first choice, 
then flick down to the pages, and flick up until it changes to the next number. 
 Then swipe back up to the description and check it out along with the size.  
Keep repeating this until you find the type of widget you want.

7, Once you find the widget you want, just swipe down and choose the add widget 
button near the bottom of the screen.

8, This should add your widget to the home screen, just hit the done button at 
the top to get out of edit mode.



A stack of widgets.



If you want more than one widget, the best thing to do is cre

RE: Apps and Widgets

[Carolyn Arnold]

I tried to get a widget for Weather and ended up only  moving Weather to 
another place on my Home Page, which is an OK location. 

One thing I'd like off my Home Page is Journal, and I would be OK with it 
totally out of my phone, and I'd like to move Find My to my Home Page. I find, 
if I'm not careful, when trying to edit apps, more than one will move, if I'm 
not really careful. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, March 8, 2024 9:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apps and Widgets

Thanks Chris,

I had figured out some of that, but the stack information is very helpful.

A tip: it is quicker to get to the various choices of widget sizes and so on by 
doing a three finger swipe from right to left.  As if you were flicking a page 
in a physical book.  And of course, to go back, three finger swipe left to 
right.

 

I may experiment with stacks once I decide what I want quick access to.

 

Thanks again,

 

 

Richard, USA

"At the moment of commitment, the universe conspires to assist you."

-- Wolfgang Von Goethe 

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com/  

 

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JAWS version 2024.2403.3

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chris 
Chaffin
Sent: Friday, March 8, 2024 5:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apps and Widgets

 

 

You can have a widget on any of your home screens.  I personally have a widget 
stack on the first screen of my home pages, and I have a second stack on the 
second screen.

 

 

First, before adding a widget, you need to know the different sizes and how 
much of the home screen each one will take up.  Keep in mind, the smaller the 
widget, the less information it can display.  there are 3 sizes, they are:

 

1, small, covers a two by two grid on the home screen.

2, Medium, covers a four by two grid on home screen.

3, Large, covers a four by four grid on home screen.

 

Now, how to add a widget.

 

1, On the screen you want to add a widget, flick up on any app and choose edit.

2, In the top left of the screen double tap the add button.

3, Swipe down the list of widgets and choose the app you want to add a widget 
from.  Please note:  The first in the list are just recommendations, I would 
swipe on down until you get to where the alphabetical order list starts.

4, After double tapping on the app you want, you are put on the screen where 
you can find all of the widgets offered by that app.

5, Its best if you start at the bottom of the widget screen, so do a four 
finger single tap near the bottom to jump there.

6, The last thing on the screen is the close button.  Now swipe up to the left 
until you get to the pages.  This is how many different widgets you can choose 
from.  Now if you swipe one more time up to the left, you will get a 
description of the first widget and its size.

6, If you want to see what else is available, or do not want the first choice, 
then flick down to the pages, and flick up until it changes to the next number. 
 Then swipe back up to the description and check it out along with the size.  
Keep repeating this until you find the type of widget you want.

7, Once you find the widget you want, just swipe down and choose the add widget 
button near the bottom of the screen.

8, This should add your widget to the home screen, just hit the done button at 
the top to get out of edit mode.

 

A stack of widgets.

 

If you want more than one widget, the best thing to do is create a widget 
stack.  This will conserve realistate on your home screen.  Here is how I 
create or add widgets as a stack.

 

After placing your first widget where you want it.  Now it is time to add one 
to it to create a stack.

 

1, To make things easier and to keep things from getting confusing, go to your 
last home screen.

2, Start edit mode, go pick out your next widget, and add it to your last home 
screen.

3, After it has been added, it is just like moving an app.  flick up on the 
widget and choose drag.

3, Go to your first widget, flick up and choose add to stack.  This will place 
that widget on top of the first widget and create a widget stack.

4, To add more widgets, just repeat the process.

 

IN a widget stack, how to switch from one to another?

 

With the widget stack in focus:

Do a 3 finger swipe up to go to the next widget, and a 3 finger down to go to 
the previous widget.

 

I try to add widgets to a stack in the orer I want them, to make it quicker to 
find the one I want.

 

I use widgets on a daily basis, and it can make finding out information a lot 
quicker and without having to open the app.

 

Chris

 





On Mar 7, 2024, at 11:18 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote:



I wanted to add a Widget to my last page, but nothing worked.

Do they have to be on 

RE: iPhone opening the notifications center

[Carolyn Arnold]

Put your finger at the top of the screen and hear a bleep, then go to next 
bleep and to next one. It will say Notifications. You also can do it the old 
way, but I can't remember the old way right off. I am a true no-Home Button 
convert and learned the new ways to do everything on my Home Screen. 

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Subject: iPhone opening the notifications center

I know I should know this but how do I open the notification center on my 
iPhone 2020se running iOS17.3?

I just got Oracle's authenticator setup on my iPhone but it sends the 
notifications to the notification center and I need to quickly get to those 
notifications so I can approve/deny them.


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RE: Voiceover choppy

[Carolyn Arnold]

I decided to go through the voices tonight, and I stuck with Tom. Probably if I 
changed, I'd switch back to Samantha or maybe Siri. 

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Alex Stone
Sent: Monday, March 4, 2024 5:30 PM
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Subject: Re: Voiceover choppy

My brother Tom lives in Portland Oregon, his wife owns more money than the 
king, and I’m not talking about Elvis!
Sent from my iPhone

> On 4 Mar 2024, at 22:17, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Pretty good about Tom .
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Alex Stone
> Sent: Monday, March 4, 2024 5:08 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Voiceover choppy
> 
> I just tried Tom Enhanced for the first, and he sounds like his pants are too 
> tight to me, also my younger brother is called tom!!
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 4 Mar 2024, at 21:56, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Try Tom enhanced. That is whom I have. I get a kick out of him, since he 
>> sounds like my brother-in-law from Minnesota, when he says winds are from 
>> the south. He says that south like someone from Minnesota. Jim can 
>> understand him though, and he's never been able to understand my phone when 
>> it talked.
>> 
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>> voice seems choppy at times. I use Samantha enhanced. I have tried fixing it 
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RE: Voiceover choppy

[Carolyn Arnold]

Pretty good about Tom . 

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Alex Stone
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I just tried Tom Enhanced for the first, and he sounds like his pants are too 
tight to me, also my younger brother is called tom!!
Sent from my iPhone

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> Try Tom enhanced. That is whom I have. I get a kick out of him, since he 
> sounds like my brother-in-law from Minnesota, when he says winds are from the 
> south. He says that south like someone from Minnesota. Jim can understand him 
> though, and he's never been able to understand my phone when it talked.
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RE: Voiceover choppy

[Carolyn Arnold]

Try Tom enhanced. That is whom I have. I get a kick out of him, since he sounds 
like my brother-in-law from Minnesota, when he says winds are from the south. 
He says that south like someone from Minnesota. Jim can understand him though, 
and he's never been able to understand my phone when it talked. 

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James Lockwood
Sent: Monday, March 4, 2024 2:47 PM
To: iphone group 
Subject: Voiceover choppy

I have two iPhone 15 pro maxs. Also have the most up to date iOS. Voice over 
voice seems choppy at times. I use Samantha enhanced. I have tried fixing it 
with deleting the enhanced downloaded voice and redownloading it. But it still 
is choppy at times randomly. Anyone else experience this as well? 

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RE: Med Minders

[Carolyn Arnold]

You can put regular reminders on your iPhone, but you will need to complete 
them as they come across. I have a friend who does that, and she has assigned a 
special ring tone for Reminders. 

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Subject: Med Minders

Hello. I am in need of a way to remind myself that it is time to take meds.   I 
am taking them five times each day and, since the amounts vary, I need it to 
remind me of not only when to take them, but also what. Can anyone on this list 
recommend am app for this? I have not yet ruled out the iOs reminder app or the 
alarm, but I am interested in looking at all of my options.  T Thank you.

 

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RE: Calls disconnecting, when I barely touch the screen of my iPhone.

[Carolyn Arnold]

Thanks for giving good directions. 

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Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2024 5:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Calls disconnecting, when I barely touch the screen of my iPhone.

Direct Touch is an item under VoiceOver settings, Rotor, rotor items.  You can 
select it so in the rotor you will be able to turn it on or off depending on 
the situation.  It is usually best left off.
For Screen Recognition, go into VoiceOver settings, VoiceOver Recognition and 
Screen Recognition is one of the things you can turn on or off, and you can 
have it on for only certain apps.  It is something Apple put in so if a 
developer didn't bother making their app accessible from the start, it can help 
in a few situations.
I find it usually causes more trouble than it is worth if it is on where it 
isn't necessary.

HTH,



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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2024 2:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Calls disconnecting, when I barely touch the screen of my iPhone.

What is direct touch? Where do you go to change it? Also, where do you go to 
change Screen Recognition? 

Still, now I am not having that problem, so glad. Good thing too that the dial 
is up on the screen when I get a call, which is good, if I need to make a three 
or four--way call, don't have to go to App Switcher and open Phone for that. 

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Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2024 4:49 PM
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Subject: RE: Calls disconnecting, when I barely touch the screen of my iPhone.

Have you double checked the settings?

I don’t know what those phones default to, but if for some reason direct touch 
is on, or maybe screen recognition, that could change how it behaves.

 

 

 

 

Richard, USA

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chrisjudge1...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2024 1:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Calls disconnecting, when I barely touch the screen of my iPhone.

 

With my new 15 pro I’ve lost a couple of calls by simply putting the phone down 
on a hard surface.

 

Chris Judge

 



 

 



 

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Calls disconnecting, when I barely touch the screen of my iPhone.

 

Well, I would just make sure, that you're not focused on the end call button.

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Calls sometimes disconect, when I touch, even the edge of my
iPhone. What can I do to put a stop to that, please? 


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RE: Calls disconnecting, when I barely touch the screen of my iPhone.

[Carolyn Arnold]

What is direct touch? Where do you go to change it? Also, where do you go to 
change Screen Recognition? 

Still, now I am not having that problem, so glad. Good thing too that the dial 
is up on the screen when I get a call, which is good, if I need to make a three 
or four--way call, don't have to go to App Switcher and open Phone for that. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2024 4:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Calls disconnecting, when I barely touch the screen of my iPhone.

Have you double checked the settings?

I don’t know what those phones default to, but if for some reason direct touch 
is on, or maybe screen recognition, that could change how it behaves.

 

 

 

 

Richard, USA

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on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
chrisjudge1...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2024 1:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Calls disconnecting, when I barely touch the screen of my iPhone.

 

With my new 15 pro I’ve lost a couple of calls by simply putting the phone down 
on a hard surface.

 

Chris Judge

 



 

 



 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Calls disconnecting, when I barely touch the screen of my iPhone.

 

Well, I would just make sure, that you're not focused on the end call button.

Joseph Hudson

 

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Connect with me on zoom

 

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Calls sometimes disconect, when I touch, even the edge of my
iPhone. What can I do to put a stop to that, please? 


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RE: Calls disconnecting, when I barely touch the screen of my iPhone.

[Carolyn Arnold]

So, Chris, try going to 

Settings
Accessibilities
Touch
Phone. The flick to Prevent Lock, and if it is off, turn it on. 

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Interesting. I received my new iPhone 15 pro on Friday. This has happened to me 
several times since I got it. Just keeping an eye on it for the next couple of 
weeks and if it seems like an issue I'll be taking it back to Apple.

Chris Judge






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Calls sometimes disconect, when I touch, even the edge of my iPhone. What can I 
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RE: Calls disconnecting, when I barely touch the screen of my iPhone.

[Carolyn Arnold]

Thanks. I was about ready to call Apple Accessibility or, as you suggested, go 
to a store for an expert. 

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I saw you got it fixed. That's why I didn't respond. Glad it's working.

> On Feb 27, 2024, at 2:19 PM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I went to Phone in Touch in Accessibility and turned on Prevent Lock
> 
> I retraced my steps and have Prevent Lock from ending call on. I said off. It 
> was off. I turned it on. Right now, it is OK. 
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> Well, that's what's doing it, when you lock the screen. I accidentally did 
> that to my dad the other day. I hit the LockScreen button and it disconnected 
> the call. Don't do that. And if it's not that, definitely do what arnold 
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>   That I do. Even if I barely touch the side of the phone at the left or 
> right edge it happens. I have to try to think to lock my screen. Then, if I 
> need to go into it, so far, I haven't had problems making three-way calls or 
> checking what the weather is here or someone's phone number in my contacts 
> that a caller has had but misplaced. 
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RE: Calls disconnecting, when I barely touch the screen of my iPhone.

[Carolyn Arnold]

I went to Phone in Touch in Accessibility and turned on Prevent Lock

I retraced my steps and have Prevent Lock from ending call on. I said off. It 
was off. I turned it on. Right now, it is OK. 

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Subject: Re: Calls disconnecting, when I barely touch the screen of my iPhone.

Well, that's what's doing it, when you lock the screen. I accidentally did that 
to my dad the other day. I hit the LockScreen button and it disconnected the 
call. Don't do that. And if it's not that, definitely do what arnold said. 
That's the best decision.

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On Feb 27, 2024, at 1:44 PM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

That I do. Even if I barely touch the side of the phone at the left or 
right edge it happens. I have to try to think to lock my screen. Then, if I 
need to go into it, so far, I haven't had problems making three-way calls or 
checking what the weather is here or someone's phone number in my contacts that 
a caller has had but misplaced. 

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iPhone.

Well, I would just make sure, that you're not focused on the end call 
button.

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RE: Calls disconnecting, when I barely touch the screen of my iPhone.

[Carolyn Arnold]

Thanks. I ended up going to Accessibilities; Touch; and Phone. There I turned 
on Prevent Lock from ending calls. Then I tried calling Time and Temperature, 
touched all over the screen, and retained the call. Thanks. 

I got the suggestion from the iDevices list about going to Accessibilities, 
Touch, and Phone. 

Naturally, turn off phone and back on, first rule out to do. 

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I will assume that you have restarted your phone and that didn't fix it. Also, 
if you haven't already, reset network settings. Other than these, it sounds to 
me as if it might be some kind of hardware problem. If it were mine, I would 
make an appointment with a genius at the Apple store and let them look at it. 
Let us know the solution. 

Arnold Schmidt 

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On Feb 27, 2024, at 2:48 PM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:

I looked in Phone, and did not find anything about that. However, even if I 
just barely touch the left side of the screen, it can happen.

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I believe there is an option to hang up call on pressing the side / lock 
button. Do you think this might be your issue? I generally have the opposite 
issue where i think I have hung up using the two finger double tap  only to 
continue hearing sounds coming from the speaker.

> On Feb 27, 2024, at 12:21 PM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
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RE: Calls disconnecting, when I barely touch the screen of my iPhone.

[Carolyn Arnold]

I looked in Phone, and did not find anything about that. However, even if I 
just barely touch the left side of the screen, it can happen. 

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Subject: Re: Calls disconnecting, when I barely touch the screen of my iPhone.

I believe there is an option to hang up call on pressing the side / lock 
button. Do you think this might be your issue? I generally have the opposite 
issue where i think I have hung up using the two finger double tap  only to 
continue hearing sounds coming from the speaker.

> On Feb 27, 2024, at 12:21 PM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
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RE: Calls disconnecting, when I barely touch the screen of my iPhone.

[Carolyn Arnold]

That I do. Even if I barely touch the side of the phone at the left or right 
edge it happens. I have to try to think to lock my screen. Then, if I need to 
go into it, so far, I haven't had problems making three-way calls or checking 
what the weather is here or someone's phone number in my contacts that a caller 
has had but misplaced. 

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Well, I would just make sure, that you're not focused on the end call button.

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Calls disconnecting, when I barely touch the screen of my iPhone.

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Calls sometimes disconect, when I touch, even the edge of my
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RE: Outdoor.

[Carolyn Arnold]

Yes, that was what I ended up doing. It was just so unexpected. Next time, I'll 
think with more sense. 

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Apart from checking if screen recognition is on, when strange stuff like that 
happens the first thing to do is to reboot your iPhone.

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Subject: Outdoor.

What in the world has happened to my iPhone 14 Pro? This morning, it keeps 
saying outdoor. I do not want to hear that even with the weather. I know that 
the weather is about outside. I looked in Settings, but couldn't figure out how 
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RE: Outdoor.

[Carolyn Arnold]

I did turn it off, then back on, and that fixed it. It was most annoying. 

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Hi Carolyn,

Is there a chance that screen recognition has gotten turned on? That will cause 
all sorts of strange things. If that’s not it and you haven’t already done it, 
I would turn the phone off and turn it back on. Let us know what happens.

Debby.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 21, 2024, at 9:10 AM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> What in the world has happened to my iPhone 14 Pro? This morning, it 
> keeps saying outdoor. I do not want to hear that even with the 
> weather. I know that the weather is about outside. I looked in 
> Settings, but couldn't figure out how to be rid of the annoyance. Any 
> help is appreciated.
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Outdoor.

[Carolyn Arnold]

What in the world has happened to my iPhone 14 Pro? This
morning, it keeps saying outdoor. I do not want to hear that
even with the weather. I know that the weather is about
outside. I looked in Settings, but couldn't figure out how
to be rid of the annoyance. Any help is appreciated. 


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RE: Talking Blood Pressure Machine

[Carolyn Arnold]

We have the talking blood pressure machine that go around the arm above the 
elbow and have heard that they are more accurate. 

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I got a talking blood pressure wrist cuff from Amazon. We just searched on 
talking blood pressure. I can't tell if you'd be OK with a wrist cuff form 
factor or not.

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I got a pretty nice one on the Walmart website.



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I think dale at Blind Mice mart sells them. I think they're available at many 
of our vendors like Maxi aids or ls


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Greetings All!
Wondered if any one knew where to buy a Talking blood pressure machine?
Also Maybe a link to it?
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RE: Talking Blood Pressure Machine

[Carolyn Arnold]

Kevin Bleil has them. I don't know his email right off, but he posts his phone 
number:

801-765-4329. 

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Greetings All!
Wondered if any one knew where to buy a Talking blood pressure machine?
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RE: iOS 17.3, Anyone?

[Carolyn Arnold]

I have and so far not noticed anything out of the ordinary. 

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Hello All,

I see that iOS 17.3 is now available.

Has anyone installed it yet?  If so, are there any new bugs to report? Or any 
issues that we should know?

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark


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RE: using find my

[Carolyn Arnold]

You just say:

Siri, find my phone. 

It starts making the alarm sound. 

That is all there is to it. 

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Hello, Can someone describe to me how to use find my iphone? Does the phone 
have to be on?


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RE: Just a Quick Thanks to you All, from Moderator Mark

[Carolyn Arnold]

Thank you, Mark, and I hope that you and all on this list have a great year in 
2024. 

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Hello Everyone,

I just wanted each and everyone of you to know how much I appreciate being a 
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Even though I am fortunate to live at this time in history, there are moments 
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bearable.

So, I thank you all for being there and wish you all a Happy New Year.

May 2024 be the most accessible year, ever.

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RE: how do I turn speech back on my iphone 14

[Carolyn Arnold]

Well, of course, I know you know, Richard, Speech and Voiceover are different; 
you were right with both commands. I am guessing it is more likely that Speech 
gets turned off than Voiceover. 

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Three finger double tap ought to work well. Or, try giving Siri the command 
“Siri, turn VoiceOver on.” Hold the right side button on the phone and give the 
command.

 

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I somehow accidentally turned speech off on my iphone; what tap gesture do I 
use to get it back? I can’t remember and my google search didn’t help. Thanks

 

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RE: how do I turn speech back on my iphone 14

[Carolyn Arnold]

Tripple finger double tap turns speech on and off. 

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I somehow accidentally turned speech off on my iphone; what tap gesture do I 
use to get it back? I can’t remember and my google search didn’t help. Thanks

 

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RE: VoiceOver Fails on iPhone 15 Pro

[Carolyn Arnold]

Also, maybe get something talking and turn up Volume. 

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Lyne
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Subject: Re: VoiceOver Fails on iPhone 15 Pro

Hello Richard,
Have you tried to use headset? If you try and get VoiceOver, let me know I will 
let you know something else 


Lyne


Le 28 déc. 2023 à 09:42, Richard  a écrit :





Sieghard,

 

Thank you. That was one of my first attempts. This did not resolve the 
problem.

 

By the way, activating Siri was tricky. It was necessary to unlock the 
phone for Siri voice commands to work. Eventually, with briefly available 
sighted help, I entered my ID code and Siri functioned.

 

I appreciate your recommendation.

 

Richard Petty

richard.pe...@earthlink.net  

 

 

 

 

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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2023 11:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: VoiceOver Fails on iPhone 15 Pro

 

Have you tried to restart your iPhone? If Siri works and you can give 
commands, just say “Restart my iPhone”, Siri will ask if you want to do this, 
say Yes and  your phone will reboot.

 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2023 6:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: VoiceOver Fails on iPhone 15 Pro

 

If anyone has a solution to what I describe below, I will appreciate 
your help.

 

This evening VoiceOver stopped speaking on my iPhone 15 Pro.

*   I hear the VoiceOver clicks and other sounds when I swipe up to 
activate the phone, but no speech.
*   I hear the VoiceOver clicks and other sounds when I swipe left 
and right, but no speech.
*   I’ve turned the volume up high; the VoiceOver sounds get 
louder, but no speech.
*   A three finger double tap does not bring up speech as it should.
*   I have attempted to use the voice command, “Siri, turn speech 
on,” or  “Siri, turn speech off.” Neither will voice.
*   I have checked for Bluetooth devices that might be connected, 
but all are turned off. Also, if this were a Bluetooth conflict, I don’t think 
I would be hearing the VoiceOver sounds.

 

Thanks very much.

 

Richard Petty

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RE: VoiceOver Fails on iPhone 15 Pro

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Amazing! That worked for Siri to restart my phone! Thanks. 

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Have you tried to restart your iPhone? If Siri works and you can give commands, 
just say “Restart my iPhone”, Siri will ask if you want to do this, say Yes and 
 your phone will reboot.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2023 6:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: VoiceOver Fails on iPhone 15 Pro

 

If anyone has a solution to what I describe below, I will appreciate your help.

 

This evening VoiceOver stopped speaking on my iPhone 15 Pro.

*   I hear the VoiceOver clicks and other sounds when I swipe up to 
activate the phone, but no speech.
*   I hear the VoiceOver clicks and other sounds when I swipe left and 
right, but no speech.
*   I’ve turned the volume up high; the VoiceOver sounds get louder, but no 
speech.
*   A three finger double tap does not bring up speech as it should.
*   I have attempted to use the voice command, “Siri, turn speech on,” or  
“Siri, turn speech off.” Neither will voice.
*   I have checked for Bluetooth devices that might be connected, but all 
are turned off. Also, if this were a Bluetooth conflict, I don’t think I would 
be hearing the VoiceOver sounds.

 

Thanks very much.

 

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RE: Text Message Notification Volume

[Carolyn Arnold]

I went to Classic and have Descending downloaded for my text messages. It works 
well, kind of sounds like a trumpet. 

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Subject: Text Message Notification Volume

Hi all,

 

Before iOS 17, I was using a text notification tone that I could hear 
throughout my home.  That text tone is no longer available in the new list of 
text tones.  The bigger problem, however, is that none of the new tones are 
anywhere near as loud as the older tones.  Is there a way of increasing the 
volume of a text tone without affecting all the other volume levels on my 
phone?  As always, any help is greatly appreciated.

 

Take care,

Ed

 

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RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

[Carolyn Arnold]

Thanks, Mark. Do you have to have two-factor authentication? 

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Hello Carolyn,

You only need to provide an email address and password, to sign in.

You may use any of your Apple, Google, Facebook email addresses or create a new 
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What do you do to set up account with Be my AI? 

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Hi,
It isn't the most straightforward if you haven't been in it before. You want to 
double tap I need visual assistance. Then I can't recall if you're prompted to 
create an account the first time but once done you'll then see the options to 
either call a live person or make use of AI.
I hope that helps.
Take good care,
Robin


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It should be one of the tabs at the bottom of the screen.


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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

Hello Richard and Everyone,

I was going to start a new thread but decided to ask my questions here:

After hearing so many wonderful comments regarding Be My Eyes, along with the 
description you just posted about how the app can describe something without 
human intervention, I decided to download it and give it a try.

Did I miss something?  When I launch the app, I only see, no pun intended, 2 
options (1), I need visual assistance, call company or volunteer and (2), I’d 
like to volunteer, share your sight.

I was hoping to use the app’s AI image description, only, at this point.

How does one activate that feature?

The app store indicates that there are in-app purchases but, even after 
exploring the website, I cannot determine what the various fees are for and how 
they work. For example, in the app store there seems to be a purchase for 
$19.95.  What does this particular fee cover?

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 12:48 PM
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Subject: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

I just updated Envision AI and it mentioned something about improved 
descriptions. 
I took a picture and it said, "I'm not sure but it could be a room with a tv on 
a table." 
I did the same scene with Be My Eyes AI and got the following. 

The picture shows a living room with a cozy and homely atmosphere. On the left, 
there is a wooden rocking chair with a black jacket draped over it. In the 
center, a flat-screen TV is placed on a wooden stand, and beneath the stand, 
there appears to be a cable box or DVD player. To the right of the TV, there's 
a lamp with a classic design on a small table. Behind the TV, a window with 
white curtains allows natural light to enter the room. On the right side of the 
image, a decorated Christmas tree is partially visible, suggesting the photo 
was taken during the holiday season. The walls are painted in a light color, 
and there is a large, framed artwork of a Christmas tree above the rocking 
chair. The floor is wooden, and in the foreground, a corner of a quilt with a 
patchwork design can be seen, indicating the viewer might be sitting on a couch 
or bed covered with this quilt.

Image description provided with Be My Eyes.


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RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

[Carolyn Arnold]

What do you do to set up account with Be my AI? 

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Subject: RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

Hi,
It isn't the most straightforward if you haven't been in it before. You want to 
double tap I need visual assistance. Then I can't recall if you're prompted to 
create an account the first time but once done you'll then see the options to 
either call a live person or make use of AI.
I hope that helps.
Take good care,
Robin


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It should be one of the tabs at the bottom of the screen.


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Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 4:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

Hello Richard and Everyone,

I was going to start a new thread but decided to ask my questions here:

After hearing so many wonderful comments regarding Be My Eyes, along with the 
description you just posted about how the app can describe something without 
human intervention, I decided to download it and give it a try.

Did I miss something?  When I launch the app, I only see, no pun intended, 2 
options (1), I need visual assistance, call company or volunteer and (2), I’d 
like to volunteer, share your sight.

I was hoping to use the app’s AI image description, only, at this point.

How does one activate that feature?

The app store indicates that there are in-app purchases but, even after 
exploring the website, I cannot determine what the various fees are for and how 
they work. For example, in the app store there seems to be a purchase for 
$19.95.  What does this particular fee cover?

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 12:48 PM
To: ViPone list 
Subject: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

I just updated Envision AI and it mentioned something about improved 
descriptions. 
I took a picture and it said, "I'm not sure but it could be a room with a tv on 
a table." 
I did the same scene with Be My Eyes AI and got the following. 

The picture shows a living room with a cozy and homely atmosphere. On the left, 
there is a wooden rocking chair with a black jacket draped over it. In the 
center, a flat-screen TV is placed on a wooden stand, and beneath the stand, 
there appears to be a cable box or DVD player. To the right of the TV, there's 
a lamp with a classic design on a small table. Behind the TV, a window with 
white curtains allows natural light to enter the room. On the right side of the 
image, a decorated Christmas tree is partially visible, suggesting the photo 
was taken during the holiday season. The walls are painted in a light color, 
and there is a large, framed artwork of a Christmas tree above the rocking 
chair. The floor is wooden, and in the foreground, a corner of a quilt with a 
patchwork design can be seen, indicating the viewer might be sitting on a couch 
or bed covered with this quilt.

Image description provided with Be My Eyes.


Richard, USA
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RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

[Carolyn Arnold]

Is super sense an app that goes on an iPhone? 

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I have just carried out a similar test with Envision AI, Be My AI and 
Supersense.

Envision gave me the following:

Looks like The image features a cozy living room with a fireplace and a small 
snowman sitting in front of it. The room is decorated with two green chairs, 
one on the left side and the other on the right side of the room. A TV is 
mounted on the wall above the fireplace, and a few books are scattered around 
the room, adding to the cozy atmosphere.


There is no television in the room.

Be My AI give me:

The picture shows a cozy room corner with a festive atmosphere. There's a 
fireplace with a dark wood mantel adorned with green tinsel. Above the mantel 
hangs a framed picture of a steam train. On the mantel, there are several 
Christmas cards and a small framed photo.

In front of the fireplace is a large mirror leaning against the wall, 
reflecting a decorative snowman standing on the hearth. The snowman is white 
with a red scarf, black hat, and appears to be handmade, possibly knitted.

Two armchairs with a floral pattern flank the fireplace, their wooden arms and 
legs visible. Between the chairs, on the floor, lies a red cylindrical object 
that could be a rolled-up rug or wrapping paper.

The floor is covered with a patterned carpet featuring a mix of beige, red, and 
blue tones. The overall ambiance is warm and inviting, with a traditional 
holiday feel.

Image description provided with Be My Eyes.

Supersense gave me:

The image shows an interior setting with a variety of items and decorations. 
Focusing from the top of the image downwards:

At the top, there's a framed image depicting a steam locomotive moving along 
the tracks with a lot of smoke around it. Below the framed image, several 
framed photographs and a couple of Christmas-themed cards are displayed on a 
mantelpiece. In the center of the mantelpiece is a golden clock with a red face.

On the lower shelf of the mantelpiece, there's tinsel draped along the edge, 
giving a festive look. A large mirror sits on the mantelpiece and reflects a 
beige-toned room, but not much of the room is visible in the reflection. In 
front of the mirror is a small fireplace façade, which seems to be a decorative 
item rather than a working fireplace, along with logs as a part of the 
decoration. A small, plush snowman with a red scarf and a black hat is placed 
in front of the fireplace.

On the left side, there is a green upholstered armchair with wooden details. On 
the floor, the room is covered in a patterned carpet with floral and geometric 
designs, primarily featuring beige, brown, and red tones. 

On the right margin of the image, a small part of what looks like a wooden 
blowpipe and a red candle can be seen. The image has a warm ambiance, with the 
lighting casting a soft glow on the furnishings and decorations, evoking a cozy 
atmosphere. Need more details? Type your questions about the image below.

Malcolm Parfitt


On 23 Dec 2023, at 20:59, Malcolm Parfitt  
wrote:




Hello Richard,

Have you tried comparing the Be My AI with Supersense‘s take picture 
available when Smart Scan is active?

Unfortunately as far as I can tell you cannot share a photo from your 
device and get a detailed description of it with Supersense.

Malcolm Parfitt


On 23 Dec 2023, at 20:48, Richard Turner 
 wrote:




I just updated Envision AI and it mentioned something about 
improved descriptions. 
I took a picture and it said, "I'm not sure but it could be a 
room with a tv on a table." 
I did the same scene with Be My Eyes AI and got the following. 

The picture shows a living room with a cozy and homely 
atmosphere. On the left, there is a wooden rocking chair with a black jacket 
draped over it. In the center, a flat-screen TV is placed on a wooden stand, 
and beneath the stand, there appears to be a cable box or DVD player. To the 
right of the TV, there's a lamp with a classic design on a small table. Behind 
the TV, a window with white curtains allows natural light to enter the room. On 
the right side of the image, a decorated Christmas tree is partially visible, 
suggesting the photo was taken during the holiday season. The walls are painted 
in a light color, and there is a large, framed artwork of a Christmas tree 
above the rocking chair. The floor is wooden, and in the foreground, a corner 
of a quilt with a patchwork design can be seen, indicating the viewer might be 
sitting on a couch or bed covered with this quilt.

RE: New hearing aids and blue tooth

[Carolyn Arnold]

Do you have Oticons? I have not experienced this problem with my Oticons, 
either this new pair or the pair I previously had. Have you checked with your 
audiologist about this problem? 

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Subject: New hearing aids and blue tooth

My new hearing aids pair with my SE3, but when answering calls they disconnect. 
 What setting do I need to address?  Thanks.


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RE: My latest purchase of a new mechanical keyboard

[Carolyn Arnold]

I ordered a wireless keyboard, and it came last week. It was all right, only I 
could not open my PDF attachments from church. We put the wired keyboard back, 
and the first try, the attachment opened right up. So, we keep the wireless 
with keys where you can read the letters, but keep my wired one, on which 
people cannot read the worn out keys. That way, if my son works on my computer, 
he can put the wireless back on. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
David Grossoehme
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 2:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Sieghard Weitzel 
Subject: Re: My latest purchase of a new mechanical keyboard

If you are going to order those switches, I'd ask someone if you can make the 
change with that keyboard before ordering them.  Why waste your money for 
something you can't use?

Dave




On 12/10/2023 4:31 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:


During black Friday I ended up buying a Keychron K10 pro mechanical 
keyboard because I recently had come across a few reviews of that brand.

In short, I am going to keep it since it is highly customizable and I 
want to play around with it, as it is out of the box I am not entirely happy 
with it, but it is mainly because of the type of switches it uses and the 
typing feel they provide. Here is a more detailed description:

 

you can use this keyboard in wired mode where you connect it to your 
computer with a USB-C cable, but you can also switch it to Bluetooth mode to 
use it with your iPhone, Android phone or a laptop or of course a desktop 
provided it has Bluetooth. The switch is a slider on the back left of the 
keyboard, to the left it is wired, in the middle it is off and to the right is 
Bluetooth. 

It then has a second slider switch which changes the layout from 
Windows/Android to Mac/iOS, left is Mac/iOS and right is Windows/Android.

When I looked up how to put it in pairing mode online, the instruction 
said to of course switch it to Bluetooth mode and then to press the FN key + 1 
on the number row for 4 seconds.

I felt the keys before and noticed a standard layout with Control, 
Windows Key and Alt on the left side of the spacebar and Alt, Windows Key, what 
I assume was an application key and Control on the right.

So I took a picture of the keys near the bottom with Be My Eyes and it 
told me that the picture was of a mechanical keyboard with several keys 
visible. I think it mentioned some of the key labels, I then sent a message 
asking if there was an FN key and the reply came back promptly “Yes, there is a 
FN key on the right side between the Windows Key and the Control Key”. Man, I 
really love this Be My AI service! In other words what I thought was the 
application key was in fact the FN key.

And for those who may wonder, no there is no application key, a Windows 
key on each side of the spacebar yes, but no application/context menu key.

However, in addition to the typical F1 to F12 keys on the top and the 
Printscreen, Scroll Lock and Pause keys to the right of the F-Keys, there is in 
fact an F13, F14, F15 and F16 key which are above the numeric pad.

These can be programmed. However, this is as far as I can tell not an 
accessible process as an application called "VIA" is used for this and one has 
to drag whatever you want the key to do to the key.

In fact, you can completely assign anything to any key including macros 
and in addition to that the keyboard can be completely customized with whatever 
mechanical switches you want to use.

The version I bought from Amazon Canada for a sale price of $109 
Canadian comes with Gateron switches and I believe they are the Linear Brown 
switches. It's wonderful typing, very quiet, but I think for my taste they are 
too sensitive and often even lightly resting my fingers on the F and J may end 
up putting one of them into my text. It's also very easy to type say a "ds" if 
all you wanted was a "d" if you are not a very precise typist. In the end I 
will most likely order either a set of Gateron switches which are more 
equivalent to a Cherry MX Blue wjhich is a more clicky switch and requires a 
bit more force before it registers. The nice thing is that you can use actual 
Cherry MX switches in that keyboard in addition to the somewhat less exxpensive 
Gateron switches and you can even use KAILH switches. How easy it is to 
disassemble the keyboard, pull the switches and reinstall the others I don't 
know, bvut my store manager is a very handy person so I'll probably get him to 
do it or at least show me in case I could do it.

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

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Sent: Saturday, December 9, 

RE: Loss of Siri voices when iPhone is on charge.

[Carolyn Arnold]

I remember that song, LOL. Good one, does your iPhone lose its voice, while on 
the charger over night. 

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Malcolm Parfitt
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 4:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Loss of Siri voices when iPhone is on charge.

For some time now I have been using Siri voice3 British dialect with my iPhone 
15 Pro Max.

For some reason it keeps losing the voice and reverting to Daniel.  This has 
been happening when the device is on its wireless charger over night.

If I want to restore the voice it is necessary to redownload it in the morning.

Sadly this issue persists in the latest beta.

It used to occurs on my Apple Watch too but this is no longer the case.

I wonder how many people will remember the song, Does Your Chewing Gum Lose 
It's Flavour (On the Bedpost Overnight? Lonnie Donegan.  Well perhaps we could 
now sing:  Does your iPhone lose its voices on the charger overnight?


Any thoughts welcome.

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RE: how to change the default tone in IOS answer

[Carolyn Arnold]

In one of the emails here, there was a video on Siri and health from applevis. 

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Sieghard Weitzel
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Subject: RE: how to change the default tone in IOS answer

What does health information have to do with the default tone?
If Siri says it can't tell you then possibly this is not something you can ask 
Siri yet or you aren't asking the right thing or if it concerns Health 
information you may not have allowed Siri access.
When I just tried (I had never asked Siri about Health information) I was told 
that I had to give access first and there was a button for Health Settings, 
once I tapped on it right at the top was the button to allow Siri access.
Keep in mind that if you manually go to Settings > Health that this is not 
under "Siri and Search" but under "Data Access and Devices".

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I need yo set something in Siri, but I can't figure how to get it to tell me 
health information. I followed Tom's steps, but there is something in Siri or 
somewhere else. Siri keeps telling me I can't tell you that. 

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Someone was looking for this the other day.
https://applevis.com/podcasts/how-change-default-notification-alert-ios
 
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RE: how to change the default tone in IOS answer

[Carolyn Arnold]

I need yo set something in Siri, but I can't figure how to get it to tell me 
health information. I followed Tom's steps, but there is something in Siri or 
somewhere else. Siri keeps telling me I can't tell you that. 

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Someone was looking for this the other day.
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RE: Does any one know if you can use the twinkle text sound in ios 1702.

[Carolyn Arnold]

I have iOS 17.2, and Twinkle is my default ring. I have assigned ones for 
special people, but Twinkle is my default. I like it.  

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Subject: Re: Does any one know if you can use the twinkle text sound in ios 
1702.

It should be there in, unless they remove the sounds again. But they're all 
back in this latest version. That I have on my phone.

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Adrians ipad

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RE: My latest purchase of a new mechanical keyboard

[Carolyn Arnold]

My new Logitech wireless has no Applications key; I just use Shift+F10. 

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Joshua Hendrickson
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Sounds a little complicated for my taste.  When I bought my current computer, I 
bought a standard USB keyboard from my local computer repair store that is 
working just fine.  I wouldn't want a keyboard with no applications key.  I use 
that key all the time for my context menus.

On 12/10/23, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> During black Friday I ended up buying a Keychron K10 pro mechanical 
> keyboard because I recently had come across a few reviews of that brand.
> In short, I am going to keep it since it is highly customizable and I 
> want to play around with it, as it is out of the box I am not entirely 
> happy with it, but it is mainly because of the type of switches it 
> uses and the typing feel they provide. Here is a more detailed description:
>
>
>
> you can use this keyboard in wired mode where you connect it to your 
> computer with a USB-C cable, but you can also switch it to Bluetooth 
> mode to use it with your iPhone, Android phone or a laptop or of 
> course a desktop provided it has Bluetooth. The switch is a slider on 
> the back left of the keyboard, to the left it is wired, in the middle 
> it is off and to the right is Bluetooth.
>
> It then has a second slider switch which changes the layout from 
> Windows/Android to Mac/iOS, left is Mac/iOS and right is Windows/Android.
>
> When I looked up how to put it in pairing mode online, the instruction 
> said to of course switch it to Bluetooth mode and then to press the FN 
> key + 1 on the number row for 4 seconds.
>
> I felt the keys before and noticed a standard layout with Control, 
> Windows Key and Alt on the left side of the spacebar and Alt, Windows 
> Key, what I assume was an application key and Control on the right.
>
> So I took a picture of the keys near the bottom with Be My Eyes and it 
> told me that the picture was of a mechanical keyboard with several keys 
> visible.
> I think it mentioned some of the key labels, I then sent a message 
> asking if there was an FN key and the reply came back promptly “Yes, 
> there is a FN key on the right side between the Windows Key and the 
> Control Key”. Man, I really love this Be My AI service! In other words 
> what I thought was the application key was in fact the FN key.
>
> And for those who may wonder, no there is no application key, a 
> Windows key on each side of the spacebar yes, but no application/context menu 
> key.
>
> However, in addition to the typical F1 to F12 keys on the top and the 
> Printscreen, Scroll Lock and Pause keys to the right of the F-Keys, 
> there is in fact an F13, F14, F15 and F16 key which are above the numeric pad.
>
> These can be programmed. However, this is as far as I can tell not an 
> accessible process as an application called "VIA" is used for this and 
> one has to drag whatever you want the key to do to the key.
>
> In fact, you can completely assign anything to any key including 
> macros and in addition to that the keyboard can be completely 
> customized with whatever mechanical switches you want to use.
>
> The version I bought from Amazon Canada for a sale price of $109 
> Canadian comes with Gateron switches and I believe they are the Linear 
> Brown switches. It's wonderful typing, very quiet, but I think for my 
> taste they are too sensitive and often even lightly resting my fingers 
> on the F and J may end up putting one of them into my text. It's also 
> very easy to type say a "ds" if all you wanted was a "d" if you are 
> not a very precise typist. In the end I will most likely order either 
> a set of Gateron switches which are more equivalent to a Cherry MX 
> Blue wjhich is a more clicky switch and requires a bit more force 
> before it registers. The nice thing is that you can use actual Cherry 
> MX switches in that keyboard in addition to the somewhat less 
> exxpensive Gateron switches and you can even use KAILH switches. How 
> easy it is to disassemble the keyboard, pull the switches and 
> reinstall the others I don't know, bvut my store manager is a very 
> handy person so I'll probably get him to do it or at least show me in case I 
> could do it.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Sieghard
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf 
> Of Andrew J LaPointe
> Sent: Saturday, December 9, 2023 1:26 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: App to see power light?
>
>
>
> Good afternoon Richard, I have the color identifier that also has a 
> light detector. That part works quite well. I also for $25 got a 
> keychain type of light detector from laws actually 

RE: doorbell cameras and telling me my Dogs there

[Carolyn Arnold]

We get that too, with our son and daughter-in-law's big white dog, Buddy comes 
by. 

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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2023 4:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: doorbell cameras and telling me my Dogs there

Most doorbells can be set to sent alerts when they detect motion so you don't 
have to teach your dog how to press the doorbell button!
We have a Ring doorbell as well as a so-called Ring "Stickup Cam" which is a 
small round cylinder you can put wherever you want and which we have sitting on 
a small shelf against the backwall of the house where it can see most of our 
backyard and I always get a notification when my dog walks around there, like 
"Motion detected in the back yard".


-Original Message-
From: 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone  
Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2023 1:40 AM
To: 'Carol VIPhone 
Subject: doorbell cameras and telling me my Dogs there

hello to the list,
The weather has turned very very cold here in Ireland, my dog likes to run 
around in the frost in the field, but I can no longer leave the door open, even 
a fraction, for him, as we are losing all our heat! so, I was thinking one of 
the doorbell apps plus hardware might be the way to go, it would tell me, or 
would it, if my dog was waiting outside the back door? at the moment, we have 
nothing of the sort either in terms of security or doorbells so I am a novice 
to this whole idea of cameras Around the house. any hints tips tricks and 
suggestions would be gratefully received.

>From the frosty island, Sandy and ZYON a.k.a. Rudolph!
Sent from The dark side of the moon

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RE: preparing to get a new i phone and am going to go with i phone 14 prow how to tern on voice over on this phone?

[Carolyn Arnold]

I never one time missed the Home Button, thanks to Rita Howell's clear 
instructions, which were like yours, Gera. 

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Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2023 5:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: preparing to get a new i phone and am going to go with i phone 14 
prow how to tern on voice over on this phone?

Firstly conggrats on that new toy! To turn VoiceOver on/off, it's 
triple-clicking the side button, found on the right side, at the same level 
where the Power button is on your iPhone 8. I've never felt a phone without a 
Home button, but they say the Side button is larger than the Power button we've 
used tin.
The gestures for Home, Notifications, etc., are easy to learn: they involve 
swiping from the bottom up, until you hear a click; the very first first click 
you hear is when yrfinger is rositioned ready to start flicking up, thus the 
2nd click is for the Home screen, and the 3rd one is for the App Switcher.
gestures the other way around: starting fthe top (sort of where you talk on the 
phone), the very first click is your initial position, from which if you swipe 
downto the 2nd click you're at the Notification (or is it Control Center 
because I don'th my iPad with me), bei way 2 clicks is either the Control 
Center Center, and the 3rd click downwards is the Notification Center.
I never thought I'd say this, but I wish iMhones hadaway (lthe iPads), to 
perform these gestures so as not not to wear out the Home buttons! Thanks to 
myexperiences with my 9th Generation iPad which still have the Home button, but 
too the ability to qgform the gestures, I'm ready to take the plunge for my 
successor iPhone to; one without the Home button. Good luck with your new 
iPhone!
Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel


El 23 nov 2023, a la(s) 3:28 p.m., mi...@eastlink.ca escribió:





Hi all I am preparing to get a new I phone next week. My old I phone 8 
is still working but it is time for a upgrade. I am going to get a I phone 14 
prose and am going to do the updates and set up from I cloud back up my self. 
My question is how to tern on voice over on this phone? I know it is a 3 click 
on the button but am not shure witch. Also this is the first I phone that I 
have with out a home button at least not one that you can feel. Any tips? Many 
thanks. From Mich.



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RE: A Happy Thanksgiving Day to Everyone

[Carolyn Arnold]

Thank you Mark, and I wish the best for everyone today. We all have things to 
be thankful for, regardless if it is a national holiday. 

-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2023 2:13 PM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: A Happy Thanksgiving Day to Everyone

Hello All,

Even though some here in the group live in places where thanksgiving is not 
celebrated, I want to wish everyone in this community a very happy Thanksgiving 
Day.

I am truly thankful that I have the extreme privilege of sharing my 
accessibility life with you all.

I continue to be astonished at how comforting it is to know that you are all 
there and that when I do encounter accessibility problems, Apple-related or 
not, I know that I am not alone in my struggles and that you will do your best 
to help and encourage me to not give up, or give in, to the challenge.

Please know that I am thinking about you, today, and everyday.

Most Sincerely,

Moderator Mark



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RE: Siri and iOS 17 problem

[Carolyn Arnold]

Siri will respond wither way - Hay Siri or Siri. 

I had that Apple Pay thing, just ended up calling Apple Accessibillity and got 
them to help me get it in just to get the thing off my back, which I do not 
intend to be using. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Margaret Thomas
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2023 1:53 PM
To: V iPhone list 
Subject: Re: Siri and iOS 17 problem

Good Afternoon:

I updated to IOS 17.1 on my SE 2 the other day and am trying to work my way 
through the changes from 16.x to 17.1 to solve problems I'm having with the 
update.  I had Hey Siri on and wanted it and not Siri, but am having a problem 
with Alan's instructions.What do I do after "Listen for and select Hey Siri 
instead of Siri?"  There's no Siri by itself.  Right now, when I do not press 
the hone button, and invoke Siri by voice, Siri responds with Hey Siri as well 
as Siri.  I think it may have something to do with the new follow-up feature I 
think I heard about.

The phone wants me to finish setting up Apple Pay, which I don't want. 
I may have an expired credit card that deleting it and putting in the new info 
might make the phone happy, but I'm having a problem with double tapping since 
the update and I was hoping to solve the double tapping thing first.  Do I have 
to solve these before I can fix Hey Siri vs. Siri?

Many thanks,

Margaret


On 10/31/2023 3:23 PM, Alan Lemly wrote:
> James,
> 
> For those of us who have updated to iOS 17 and prefer Hey Siri, we can go to 
> Settings, Siri and search, and Listen for and select Hey Siri instead of Siri 
> and Hey Siri to have it work as it did in earlier versions of iOS.
> 
> Alan Lemly
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 31, 2023, at 11:38 AM, James Bentley  wrote:
>>
>> I love Hey Ciri.  Not one single time in almost one year has any thing 
>> accidently triggered Ciri.
>>
>> All of my other devices, especially Alexa go off several times a day.  I 
>> always have the TV, radio, or an Audio book going and Ciri has never 
>> noticed.  Alexa sometimes, will start playing music or some podcast because 
>> she thought she heard the wake word followed by a request.
>>
>> If Apple has removed the Hhey in Hey Ciri, I will never update to any 
>> version of IOS 17.
>>
>> Just my opinion but it seems to me like Apple has come out with one of the 
>> worst versions of IOS in V17 since the conception of the I Phone.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> James B
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Mary Otten
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 11:15 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Siri and iOS 17 problem
>>
>> It’s also possible that since they got rid of the hay in hey Siri, if your 
>> friend has that enabled, Siri could be listening and hear anything and quit, 
>> because it thinks you’re doing something. Try disabling hands-free Siri and 
>> just use the side button and see if that helps. I never have used hey Siri 
>> except on my HomePod. I have no problem pressing the side button.
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Oct 31, 2023, at 8:48 AM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Give that feedback to Apple.  The new thing of Siri being available for 
>>> follow up questions I think is essentially keeping the mic open and thus it 
>>> cannot give a full answer if it hears anything.
>>> Pretty pointless.
>>> I find nothing in Siri settings to disable this.
>>> Though, he might try turning on showing a transcript of what Siri says, 
>>> then maybe VO can read the whole response, but that is a poor work around 
>>> at best even if it works.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard, USA.
>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
>>> with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in 
>>> the Universe
>>>
>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Lynn Schneider
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 8:42 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Siri and iOS 17 problem
>>>
>>> I am trying to help a friend with a problem that has popped up since iOS 
>>> 17.1. He uses Siri to get his sports scores. He says that, as she is 
>>> reading back the information, any little noise will stop her from reading. 
>>> It is like Siri has an open mic all the time. This behavior just started 
>>> recently. He thought that an update fixed it, and it worked well for about 
>>> a day, but then went back to this problematic behavior. Any insights on how 
>>> to solve this problem would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance.
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Problem with making and receiving calls

[Carolyn Arnold]

I have this question. Do you get Siri to make your calls? 

When I had my SE, I had problems that were similar, so I called the guy at 
Consumer Cellular, my carrier at the time, and complained. He asked me, are you 
using Siri? I said yes to make calls. He said to make them myself and see if I 
had more success. I started calling myself instead of using Siri, and 
immediately had success. In particular, when I tried to call from our Senior 
Center or our apartment, both in low, wooded areas, I had the problem. 

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colleyd1...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2023 5:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Problem with making and receiving calls

I’m having a significant issue with my Iphone SE3, and before I take it in I 
thought I’d see if anyone has any suggestions.

 

When I try to make calls the call either doesn’t go through at all or it 
doesn’t ring and then just drops the call. When I receive calls I can answer 
them and I can hear the person on the other end but they can’t hear me. I’ve 
even turned up the volume.

 

I have powered my phone down twice and reset network settings three times 
without any success.

 

Any other suggestions?

 

Denise

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RE: Deleting Recent Calls.

[Carolyn Arnold]

Thanks, and that is good news. I have iOS 17.1. 

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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2023 2:25 PM
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Subject: RE: Deleting Recent Calls.

There was a bit of an issue where when you flicked down to delete a recent call 
and then double tapped another to call it nothing happened.
I am not sure if this is still an issue in the current release of iOS 17.1 or, 
for that matter, what version of iOS you use.
However, I am now using the beta of iOS 17.2 and this is resolved, I can once 
again delete individual entries in the recent call list simply by flicking up 
or down to "delete" and then double tap and if afterwards I want to call 
somebody by tapping on their name/number in the recent call list, it works fine.
Selecting all recent call entries works a bit different from iOS 16 and also 
previous versions of iOS 17.
In iOS 17.2 Beta you would tap on the ""Edit" button at the top left of the 
recent call screen. This will cause a sound to be played and then for me 
Voiceover says "Sieghard Weitzel, name and photo, button". If I flick right 
from that I have a "select" button and if I flick right one more time I have a 
"dismiss context menu" buttton.
If I double tap "select", then it goes out of the context menu back to the 
recent call list, at the top left where the Edit button was is now a "Done" 
button and at the top right is a "Clear" button.
If you double tap that clear button you will be asked if you are sure that you 
want to delete all recents, confirm and your recent call list will be cleared.


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Arnold
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2023 10:59 AM
To: viPhone 
Subject: Deleting Recent Calls.

Is there a way to delete all Recent Calls? They are not as much use to me now, 
since They don't seem to work, when trying to call one. 


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Deleting Recent Calls.

[Carolyn Arnold]

Is there a way to delete all Recent Calls? They are not as
much use to me now, since They don't seem to work, when
trying to call one. 


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RE: Be My AI and what it may teach us?

[Carolyn Arnold]

Dido, Marilyn, and like you say, all minds do not work alike. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
MARILYN AND DON BILDERBACK 
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2023 8:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Be My AI and what it may teach us?

Carolyn,  me too!  My husband describes all kinds of things as we drive or eat 
out in a restaurant.  He will do this without me asking and I love to know what 
is around me.  

Onetime while eating out with a friend in another state, Don mentioned that 
their were canoes attached to the ceiling in a Mexican food place that our 
friend goes to often.  She was astonished because in all the times she was 
there, no one ever told her about the décor. What good do these descriptions do 
for me as I can see nothing anymore?  The information makes me feel more a part 
of the world.  I was interested in stuff when I could see and still enjoy the 
explanations.   

Whatever a person wants or needs is the right thing for them.  Not all people 
would like what I like. What fun to know your mind works kinda like mine.  Lol

Marilyn 



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2023 11:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Be My AI and what it may teach us?

I asked Jim what he looked like, when we first started seeing each other. I 
want to know what color everything is, what kind of cars everyone drives, 
what's in style, all that sight stuff that I don't have now. I want to know 
what color the furniture is, what color the floor covering, cabinets and on and 
on. 

I guess what people look like too, and some of us laugh at my guesses. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
CJ & AA MAY
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2023 11:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Be My AI and what it may teach us?

You may have a point here as I am interested to know what people look like and 
amsurprised when they turn out not to be at all like I'd imagined.
It troubles me a little to realise, as I write this, that I have no idea what 
my husband now looks like. If he went missing, there is very little I could say 
to help find him.
Alison


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2023 4:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Be My AI and what it may teach us?

I agree with Sieghard. My guess, and this is only a guess is that the ones of 
us who have had some or full sight are more willing to hear what Be My A I 
might say about our expression. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2023 9:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Be My AI and what it may teach us?

I would agree with Sieghard, but I suspect what Mary and others are getting at 
is not what they choose to use or not but what others are using and how that 
might affect how they interpret the world based on those AI generated 
descriptions. As Mary says though, anytime you're getting a description from 
another source, even if it's a sighted person, it isn't going to be free of 
interpretation.

Reminds me of a friend of mine in college who was helping me pick out a 
greeting card. She told me she would just describe the card to me and wouldn't 
be subjective at all. Later on she described a card as "yucky yellow." We had a 
good laugh over that, but I didn't get that card.

For those who don't want any kind of interpretation of a description coming 
from an AI, I wonder what they would consider an acceptable description. I'd 
find it interesting if someone took a response from Be My AI and then 
sterilized it into what they would find acceptable. I'm guessing that the more 
sterile descriptions wouldn't be nearly as popular and most people find the 
interpretation of the image as one of the more interesting parts of the 
description.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
Chaltain at Outlook, USA

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2023 10:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Be My AI and what it may teach us?

Anybody who does not like or agree with some of the interpretations of the AI 
is free not to use the service.
Just as you may not appreciate it, I have so far felt that even descriptions 
which included descriptions of facial expressions were actually amazingly 
correct when I asked sighted people to tell me what they thought of the 
desdcription and whether they agtreed that the interpretation was good or not.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2023 7:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Be My AI and 

RE: Be My AI and what it may teach us?

[Carolyn Arnold]

Only, that is not a complete description. Like it or not, all of us have facial 
expression, and that is a part of what we look like. Of course, expressions 
vary, but they are a part of a person's face. 

-Original Message-
From: realman02 via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2023 5:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Be My AI and what it may teach us?

This is how I would rephrase the description:

>The man in the picture has a fair complexion. His hair is short and appears to 
>be a mix of gray and black, and he has a full head of hair. His eyes are 
>partially closed.
His nose is prominent and he has full lips. He is wearing a dark-colored polo 
shirt with a collar. The shirt has a small embroidery on the right side of his 
chest that reads "Samuel Smith" in a cursive font with gold thread. 

John 
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2023 11:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Be My AI and what it may teach us?

I agree with Sieghard. My guess, and this is only a guess is that the ones of 
us who have had some or full sight are more willing to hear what Be My A I 
might say about our expression. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2023 9:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Be My AI and what it may teach us?

I would agree with Sieghard, but I suspect what Mary and others are getting at 
is not what they choose to use or not but what others are using and how that 
might affect how they interpret the world based on those AI generated 
descriptions. As Mary says though, anytime you're getting a description from 
another source, even if it's a sighted person, it isn't going to be free of 
interpretation.

Reminds me of a friend of mine in college who was helping me pick out a 
greeting card. She told me she would just describe the card to me and wouldn't 
be subjective at all. Later on she described a card as "yucky yellow." We had a 
good laugh over that, but I didn't get that card.

For those who don't want any kind of interpretation of a description coming 
from an AI, I wonder what they would consider an acceptable description. I'd 
find it interesting if someone took a response from Be My AI and then 
sterilized it into what they would find acceptable. I'm guessing that the more 
sterile descriptions wouldn't be nearly as popular and most people find the 
interpretation of the image as one of the more interesting parts of the 
description.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
Chaltain at Outlook, USA

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2023 10:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Be My AI and what it may teach us?

Anybody who does not like or agree with some of the interpretations of the AI 
is free not to use the service.
Just as you may not appreciate it, I have so far felt that even descriptions 
which included descriptions of facial expressions were actually amazingly 
correct when I asked sighted people to tell me what they thought of the 
desdcription and whether they agtreed that the interpretation was good or not.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2023 7:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Be My AI and what it may teach us?

I do not want to know what some artificial intelligence thinks somebody’s 
expression means. Cultural stuff hugely influences that sort of thing. And as a 
totally blind person from birth, I can’t tell you how many times people have 
asked me why are you angry? Because I’m not smiling. Apparently you’re supposed 
to go around smiling all the time especially if you’re a woman. So I don’t 
trust AI male centric and Eurocentric as it must obviously be, based on who is 
making these glorious language models and facial expression models etc.I don’t 
want it. I want human to human interaction, and never mind somebody else 
assuming they know what I’m thinking because of how my face looks. I sure don’t 
want to inflict that misunderstanding on somebody else.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 13, 2023, at 6:49 PM, realman02 via VIPhone  
> wrote:
>
> Good points, Kelly. The reason it bothers me is that it's not human-to-human 
> interaction; it's a large language model that's making those judgements.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kellie
> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2023 9:21 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Be My AI and what it may teach us?
>
> I think the other thing that people need to keep in mind, it’s just because 
> an artificial intelligence says that’s your expression doesn’t 

RE: Be My AI and what it may teach us?

[Carolyn Arnold]

I asked Jim what he looked like, when we first started seeing each other. I 
want to know what color everything is, what kind of cars everyone drives, 
what's in style, all that sight stuff that I don't have now. I want to know 
what color the furniture is, what color the floor covering, cabinets and on and 
on. 

I guess what people look like too, and some of us laugh at my guesses. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
CJ & AA MAY
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2023 11:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Be My AI and what it may teach us?

You may have a point here as I am interested to know what people look like and 
amsurprised when they turn out not to be at all like I'd imagined.
It troubles me a little to realise, as I write this, that I have no idea what 
my husband now looks like. If he went missing, there is very little I could say 
to help find him.
Alison


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2023 4:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Be My AI and what it may teach us?

I agree with Sieghard. My guess, and this is only a guess is that the ones of 
us who have had some or full sight are more willing to hear what Be My A I 
might say about our expression. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2023 9:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Be My AI and what it may teach us?

I would agree with Sieghard, but I suspect what Mary and others are getting at 
is not what they choose to use or not but what others are using and how that 
might affect how they interpret the world based on those AI generated 
descriptions. As Mary says though, anytime you're getting a description from 
another source, even if it's a sighted person, it isn't going to be free of 
interpretation.

Reminds me of a friend of mine in college who was helping me pick out a 
greeting card. She told me she would just describe the card to me and wouldn't 
be subjective at all. Later on she described a card as "yucky yellow." We had a 
good laugh over that, but I didn't get that card.

For those who don't want any kind of interpretation of a description coming 
from an AI, I wonder what they would consider an acceptable description. I'd 
find it interesting if someone took a response from Be My AI and then 
sterilized it into what they would find acceptable. I'm guessing that the more 
sterile descriptions wouldn't be nearly as popular and most people find the 
interpretation of the image as one of the more interesting parts of the 
description.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
Chaltain at Outlook, USA

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2023 10:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Be My AI and what it may teach us?

Anybody who does not like or agree with some of the interpretations of the AI 
is free not to use the service.
Just as you may not appreciate it, I have so far felt that even descriptions 
which included descriptions of facial expressions were actually amazingly 
correct when I asked sighted people to tell me what they thought of the 
desdcription and whether they agtreed that the interpretation was good or not.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2023 7:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Be My AI and what it may teach us?

I do not want to know what some artificial intelligence thinks somebody’s 
expression means. Cultural stuff hugely influences that sort of thing. And as a 
totally blind person from birth, I can’t tell you how many times people have 
asked me why are you angry? Because I’m not smiling. Apparently you’re supposed 
to go around smiling all the time especially if you’re a woman. So I don’t 
trust AI male centric and Eurocentric as it must obviously be, based on who is 
making these glorious language models and facial expression models etc.I don’t 
want it. I want human to human interaction, and never mind somebody else 
assuming they know what I’m thinking because of how my face looks. I sure don’t 
want to inflict that misunderstanding on somebody else.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 13, 2023, at 6:49 PM, realman02 via VIPhone  
> wrote:
>
> Good points, Kelly. The reason it bothers me is that it's not human-to-human 
> interaction; it's a large language model that's making those judgements.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kellie
> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2023 9:21 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Be My AI and what it may teach us?
>
> I think the other thing that people need to keep in mind, it’s just bec

RE: Be My AI and what it may teach us?

[Carolyn Arnold]

Well said, Alison. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
CJ & AA MAY
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2023 10:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Be My AI and what it may teach us?

We live in a world where predominantly people have vision and, as a minority, 
it is up to us to adapt. 
Sighted people have mentioned to me how uncomfortable they feel when talking to 
a blind person who doesn't turn to face them when talking. 
A smile doesn't just indicate that you are happy, it is showing you are 
friendly and approachable, that you are grateful for help which is given, it is 
a silent acknowledgement.
Alison


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2023 3:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Be My AI and what it may teach us?

I do not want to know what some artificial intelligence thinks somebody’s 
expression means. Cultural stuff hugely influences that sort of thing. And as a 
totally blind person from birth, I can’t tell you how many times people have 
asked me why are you angry? Because I’m not smiling. Apparently you’re supposed 
to go around smiling all the time especially if you’re a woman. So I don’t 
trust AI male centric and Eurocentric as it must obviously be, based on who is 
making these glorious language models and facial expression models etc.I don’t 
want it. I want human to human interaction, and never mind somebody else 
assuming they know what I’m thinking because of how my face looks. I sure don’t 
want to inflict that misunderstanding on somebody else.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 13, 2023, at 6:49 PM, realman02 via VIPhone  
> wrote:
> 
> Good points, Kelly. The reason it bothers me is that it's not human-to-human 
> interaction; it's a large language model that's making those judgements.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kellie
> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2023 9:21 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Be My AI and what it may teach us?
> 
> I think the other thing that people need to keep in mind, it’s just because 
> an artificial intelligence says that’s your expression doesn’t mean you have 
> to believe it. You can ask follow-up questions. The beauty is we have 
> deductive reasoning and can make that determination with further input. Also, 
> if you’re totally blind, every input of an expression is going to be through 
> hearsay whether it’s artificial intelligence or another human being. You’re 
> still going by their interpretation of the expression, not your own judgment. 
> Every single thing that is described to us is through someone else’s eyes or 
> interpretation of what they visually perceive it to be. That means, every 
> description is suspect since no two people are going to take away the same 
> thing. That’s why it doesn’t really bother me if the artificial intelligence 
> Gives an answer that isn’t maybe how I’m feeling or etc. because I can use my 
> reasoning to figure it out.
> 
> Kellie and my lovable Lady J  
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 13, 2023, at 7:26 PM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I agree with that. The Be my A I is just telling us what we'd see, if we 
>> could - hairy arm; stern expression. I would want it to tell me what it sees.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Robert Doc Wright
>> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2023 4:50 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Be My AI and what it may teach us?
>> 
>> What is wrong with the truth?
>> 
>>   - Original Message -
>>   From: Cristóbal Muñoz <mailto:cristobalm...@gmail.com>  
>>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
>>   Sent: Monday, November 13, 2023 2:09 PM
>>   Subject: RE: Be My AI and what it may teach us?
>> 
>> 
>>   This topic reminds me of these two articles.
>> 
>>   Blind Olympic athletes show the universal nature of pride and shame 
>> <https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/blind-olympic-athletes-show-the-universal-nature-of-pride-and-shame>
>> 
>>   The role of visual experience in the production of emotional facial 
>> expressions by blind people: 
>> <https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5902524/>
>> 
>>   Sometimes, BeMyEyes descriptions aren’t appreciated. The other day, I used 
>> it to snap a photo of a bag of green coffee beans that I wanted to roast. I 
>> held the bag of beans in my left hand and snapped the picture with my iPhone 
>> in my right ha

RE: Be My AI and what it may teach us?

[Carolyn Arnold]

I agree with Sieghard. My guess, and this is only a guess is that the ones of 
us who have had some or full sight are more willing to hear what Be My A I 
might say about our expression. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2023 9:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Be My AI and what it may teach us?

I would agree with Sieghard, but I suspect what Mary and others are getting at 
is not what they choose to use or not but what others are using and how that 
might affect how they interpret the world based on those AI generated 
descriptions. As Mary says though, anytime you're getting a description from 
another source, even if it's a sighted person, it isn't going to be free of 
interpretation.

Reminds me of a friend of mine in college who was helping me pick out a 
greeting card. She told me she would just describe the card to me and wouldn't 
be subjective at all. Later on she described a card as "yucky yellow." We had a 
good laugh over that, but I didn't get that card.

For those who don't want any kind of interpretation of a description coming 
from an AI, I wonder what they would consider an acceptable description. I'd 
find it interesting if someone took a response from Be My AI and then 
sterilized it into what they would find acceptable. I'm guessing that the more 
sterile descriptions wouldn't be nearly as popular and most people find the 
interpretation of the image as one of the more interesting parts of the 
description.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
Chaltain at Outlook, USA

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2023 10:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Be My AI and what it may teach us?

Anybody who does not like or agree with some of the interpretations of the AI 
is free not to use the service.
Just as you may not appreciate it, I have so far felt that even descriptions 
which included descriptions of facial expressions were actually amazingly 
correct when I asked sighted people to tell me what they thought of the 
desdcription and whether they agtreed that the interpretation was good or not.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2023 7:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Be My AI and what it may teach us?

I do not want to know what some artificial intelligence thinks somebody’s 
expression means. Cultural stuff hugely influences that sort of thing. And as a 
totally blind person from birth, I can’t tell you how many times people have 
asked me why are you angry? Because I’m not smiling. Apparently you’re supposed 
to go around smiling all the time especially if you’re a woman. So I don’t 
trust AI male centric and Eurocentric as it must obviously be, based on who is 
making these glorious language models and facial expression models etc.I don’t 
want it. I want human to human interaction, and never mind somebody else 
assuming they know what I’m thinking because of how my face looks. I sure don’t 
want to inflict that misunderstanding on somebody else.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 13, 2023, at 6:49 PM, realman02 via VIPhone  
> wrote:
>
> Good points, Kelly. The reason it bothers me is that it's not human-to-human 
> interaction; it's a large language model that's making those judgements.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kellie
> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2023 9:21 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Be My AI and what it may teach us?
>
> I think the other thing that people need to keep in mind, it’s just because 
> an artificial intelligence says that’s your expression doesn’t mean you have 
> to believe it. You can ask follow-up questions. The beauty is we have 
> deductive reasoning and can make that determination with further input. Also, 
> if you’re totally blind, every input of an expression is going to be through 
> hearsay whether it’s artificial intelligence or another human being. You’re 
> still going by their interpretation of the expression, not your own judgment. 
> Every single thing that is described to us is through someone else’s eyes or 
> interpretation of what they visually perceive it to be. That means, every 
> description is suspect since no two people are going to take away the same 
> thing. That’s why it doesn’t really bother me if the artificial intelligence 
> Gives an answer that isn’t maybe how I’m feeling or etc. because I can use my 
> reasoning to figure it out.
>
> Kellie and my lovable Lady J
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Nov 13, 2023, at 7:26 PM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I agree with that. The Be my A I is just tel

RE:

[Carolyn Arnold]

What about Sd? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Ben Warner
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2023 12:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: 

Sd

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