Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[rajmund]

Hello,
I left it on 9, primarily for the email reading bug, where 
flicking up with 2 fingers reads the entire 9.7 inch screen.  I 
would otherwise update, but because of this, I choose not to.


Sent from a BrailleNote


- Original Message -
From: "Russ Kiehne" <russ94...@gmail.com
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Wed, 14 Dec 2016 06:32:00 -0800
Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

I was not able to update my ipad mini to ios 10.  I ended up 
buying a ipad
mini 4 so I could give it a ttry.  So far, I like it.  My ipad 
mini 4 is my
favorite device for reading books and listening to old time radio 
shows.


-Original Message-
From: Rajmund
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 10:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

Hello,
Interesting, my iPad is still happy on 9.3.5.  If we truly didn't 
have a

choice, how come I'm still on 9, please?



Sent from a Braille Sense

- Original Message -
From: Mc3a1rio_Gabriel  <mario@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 5:08 pm
Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:







hi Pablo.
Yes apple forces us to do the update.
Sooner or later we have to do it.



as 16:48 de 13/12/2016, Pablo Cesar Morales escreveu:

Yes, apple force you tu update.  If you have an iPhone new, and 
you have a
problem and you call apple, they are no going to give you tech 
support if
you don't have installed the last IOs release.  So apple decline 
the tech
support if you don't have installed the last IOs release.  Apple 
by default
download the IOs and fills your phone memory.  Apple make your 
life hard
with hundreds of announcemnts saying that the IOs x  is ready to 
be

install.
So, if it is no forcing, looks very similar.




From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf

Of Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 11:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

No one is forcing you to install an update.  I have not done so 
and don't

plan too until the keypad issue is fixed for iphone 7.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf

Of Pablo Cesar Morales
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 10:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

Guys,
I was like all of you.  So mad with apple, with the fact that 
they breaks
accessibility points that were working before and stop working.  
I was so
mad because apple force you to install their IOs version, 
breaking the
accessibility that we need, and we need to wait months until we 
are able
to use our phone like we were doing before.  Yes, I was so mad.  
I tried

android, and I changed my mind.  Apple is better.
Android is several towns behind than IOs regarding 
accessibility.








From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf

Of regina alvarado
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 11:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:


mario, call support as Pete suggested.  The more people who call 
the more
it will be fixed.  If not an option for you, please try Android.  
I have
heard it is pretty good, though as with Apple there are some 
issues too.
Please call Apple support not email, and help list traffic by 
helping not

complaining, please.

Reggie and Lex


On Dec 13, 2016, at 8:06 AM, Mário Gabriel <mario@gmail.com> 
wrote:



How do you know that apple is looking to it?
Apple always looks, but never solves ...
Is that right?

cheers.

as 11:43 de 13/12/2016, Amy Ruell escreveu:
Hello all, I see the behavior on my iPhone 7 as well.  As most 
of the
numbers I call are in my contacts, I don't have too much 
difficulty.
However, if there are prompts involved, the only way to do this 
is to

swipe to the keypad button and activate it.
Amy

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 13, 2016, at 6:33 AM, Don Breda <don.br...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

Hi Sieghard.
I don't have the problem at all on my iPhone 6 s but my friend 
has a 7 and

she does have the problem.

The problem is that the keypad disappears once the call is 
connected.


It happens if she uses Siri to make the call and it also happens 
if she
goes in to the phone appp and selects the keypad dials the call 
manually

as well.

Once the call connects the keypad disappears.

She is not a good iPhoneuser yet and by the time she fines and 
enables the

keypad again its probably to late.

My phone does not do this at all.

Its frustrating when you need to tenter touch tones to answer 
menu prompts

etc.

Many people have this issue and many don't.

Apple is looking in to it but I don't think they know why it 
happens for

some and not others.

Thanks.

Don



On 12-Dec-16 3:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Hi Don and others,

Is this something a lot of people experience? I haven't noticed 
any
difference on my 6S Plus ever sin

Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[Russ Kiehne]

I was not able to update my ipad mini to ios 10.  I ended up buying a ipad 
mini 4 so I could give it a ttry.  So far, I like it.  My ipad mini 4 is my 
favorite device for reading books and listening to old time radio shows.


-Original Message- 
From: Rajmund

Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 10:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

Hello,
Interesting, my iPad is still happy on 9.3.5. If we truly didn't have a 
choice, how come I'm still on 9, please?




Sent from a Braille Sense

- Original Message -
From: Mc3a1rio_Gabriel  <mario@gmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 5:08 pm
Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:








hi Pablo.
Yes apple forces us to do the update.
Sooner or later we have to do it.



as 16:48 de 13/12/2016, Pablo Cesar Morales escreveu:

Yes, apple force you tu update. If you have an iPhone new, and you have a 
problem and you call apple, they are no going to give you tech support if 
you don't have installed the last IOs release. So apple decline the tech 
support if you don't have installed the last IOs release. Apple by default 
download the IOs and fills your phone memory. Apple make your life hard 
with hundreds of announcemnts saying that the IOs x  is ready to be 
install.

So, if it is no forcing, looks very similar.




From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Larry Lumpkin

Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 11:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

No one is forcing you to install an update.  I have not done so and don't 
plan too until the keypad issue is fixed for iphone 7.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Pablo Cesar Morales

Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 10:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

Guys,
I was like all of you. So mad with apple, with the fact that they breaks 
accessibility points that were working before and stop working. I was so 
mad because apple force you to install their IOs version, breaking the 
accessibility that we need, and we need to wait months until we are able 
to use our phone like we were doing before. Yes, I was so mad. I tried 
android, and I changed my mind. Apple is better.

Android is several towns behind than IOs regarding accessibility.







From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of regina alvarado

Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 11:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:


mario, call support as Pete suggested. The more people who call the more 
it will be fixed. If not an option for you, please try Android. I have 
heard it is pretty good, though as with Apple there are some issues too. 
Please call Apple support not email, and help list traffic by helping not 
complaining, please.


Reggie and Lex


On Dec 13, 2016, at 8:06 AM, Mário Gabriel <mario@gmail.com> wrote:


How do you know that apple is looking to it?
Apple always looks, but never solves ...
Is that right?

cheers.

as 11:43 de 13/12/2016, Amy Ruell escreveu:
Hello all, I see the behavior on my iPhone 7 as well. As most of the 
numbers I call are in my contacts, I don't have too much difficulty. 
However, if there are prompts involved, the only way to do this is to 
swipe to the keypad button and activate it.

Amy

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 13, 2016, at 6:33 AM, Don Breda <don.br...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Sieghard.
I don't have the problem at all on my iPhone 6 s but my friend has a 7 and 
she does have the problem.


The problem is that the keypad disappears once the call is connected.

It happens if she uses Siri to make the call and it also happens if she 
goes in to the phone appp and selects the keypad dials the call manually 
as well.


Once the call connects the keypad disappears.

She is not a good iPhoneuser yet and by the time she fines and enables the 
keypad again its probably to late.


My phone does not do this at all.

Its frustrating when you need to tenter touch tones to answer menu prompts 
etc.


Many people have this issue and many don't.

Apple is looking in to it but I don't think they know why it happens for 
some and not others.


Thanks.

Don



On 12-Dec-16 3:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Hi Don and others,

Is this something a lot of people experience? I haven't noticed any 
difference on my 6S Plus ever since I started using iOS 10, I am not using 
the current 10.2 beta so unless it's a problem here, what is exactly the 
issue?
When I make or receive a call I may have to tap to bring up the keypad, 
but that has always been the case at times, but most of the time the 
keypad is there and I actually have to hide it if I want access to any of 
the other buttons.


Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Be

Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[Mário Gabriel]

Hi Pablo
very well said.
I completely agree with you.
If I were sighted,  I would never use anything from apple.
Would certainly use android with the best phone in the world at the 
moment. The galaxy S7.

But as I am total blind I have to use apple because of accessibility.
I hope soon google team and talkback will make me forget Apple completely.
cheers.


Às 11:06 de 14/12/2016, Pablo C. Morales escreveu:

Sorry, but it sound very similar than forcing you. Through stress, through 
making you tired of those announcements, and many other ways. It is forcing 
you, more over if you didn't require tech support, good for you, but if you 
require tech support, mandatory you have to install the last IOs, they don't 
care if that IOs has millions of voice over bugs, you have to install it. So, 
if it is no forcing customers, it looks very similar.
Again, I use iPhone no because I like apple policies, either because I like the 
way how I have my hands tied due to the many limitations that the apple 
platform has. No, I am using iPhone no because of those important things. I use 
iPhone because of the accessibility. Unfortunately I am blind, but for sure if 
I would be sighted, I would have an android phone. I see what my wife is able 
to do using her android phone, and really it looks magic. I am no able to do 
none of them because the limited apple platform.
However, it is what I have right now. No more choices for me. So I have to buy 
apple.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
rajmund
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 2:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

Hello Pablo,
Thanks for that.  However, I guess I wanted to prove that you can keep things 
on earlier versions, and you're not forced.  It's a first generation air, so 
should take the update fine.  Yes, I have just been keep canceling, but 
everyone can do that.  So I'll say it again, apple tries, but is not forcing 
the updates.Sent from a BrailleNote


  - Original Message -
From: "Pablo C.  Morales" <pablocmd2...@gmail.com
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Tue, 13 Dec 2016 18:05:33 -0500
Subject: RE: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

For three possible reasons.  1.  You had to setup your iPad to avoid 
downloading the IOS.  It is no the default configuration, so if you don't have 
the training to do this, then you will have IOs in your iPad.
2.  You don't have  the last IOs, so you are no able to receive tech support..  
I assume that you don't have the iPad last release, so probably you don't care 
about it.  But if your iPad still is able to receive tech support, then apple 
will decline to give you tech support.
3.  You had cancelled several times the announcements saying that you have a 
IOs update.
One of these is why you are running IOs 9.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rajmund
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 4:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

And you still didn't answer me.  Suppose it's time to copy and paste.  Fine by 
me.  This statement is sooo false:
"> >>>> hi Pablo.
  Yes apple forces us to do the update.
  Sooner or later we have to do it." If this was true, how come I'm still on 9 
with the iPad?
Best regards, the big, huge, troll.  :P



Sent from a Braille Sense

- Original Message -
From: Mc3a1rio_Gabriel  <mario@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 9:05 pm
Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:




  Someone has to tell you.  God, you really are a big Troll.


  as 20:50 de 13/12/2016, Rajmund escreveu:
  Yes, I do.  You said that we're all forced to update.  And I'm telling you 
straight up, publicly, that we're not, otherwise how can I still be on IOS9? 
Feel free to insult me, a few of your messages bought the smile on my face, so 
no worries.  All's good, indeed.



  Sent from a Braille Sense

  - Original Message -
  From: Mc3a1rio_Gabriel  <mario@gmail.com
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Date: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 7:44 pm
  Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:




  We are talking about updates on iOS 10 not 9.  not new releases.
  Do you still want me to tell you something else.  please?
  cheers.


  as 18:23 de 13/12/2016, Rajmund escreveu:
  Hello,
  Interesting, my iPad is still happy on 9.3.5.  If we truly didn't have a 
choice, how come I'm still on 9, please?



  Sent from a Braille Sense

  - Original Message -
  From: Mc3a1rio_Gabriel  <mario@gmail.com
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Date: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 5:08 pm
  Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:





  hi Pablo.
  Yes apple forces us to do the update.
  Sooner or later we have to do it.



  as 16:48 de 13/12/2016, Pablo Cesar M

RE: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[Pablo C. Morales]

Sorry, but it sound very similar than forcing you. Through stress, through 
making you tired of those announcements, and many other ways. It is forcing 
you, more over if you didn't require tech support, good for you, but if you 
require tech support, mandatory you have to install the last IOs, they don't 
care if that IOs has millions of voice over bugs, you have to install it. So, 
if it is no forcing customers, it looks very similar.
Again, I use iPhone no because I like apple policies, either because I like the 
way how I have my hands tied due to the many limitations that the apple 
platform has. No, I am using iPhone no because of those important things. I use 
iPhone because of the accessibility. Unfortunately I am blind, but for sure if 
I would be sighted, I would have an android phone. I see what my wife is able 
to do using her android phone, and really it looks magic. I am no able to do 
none of them because the limited apple platform.
However, it is what I have right now. No more choices for me. So I have to buy 
apple.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
rajmund
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 2:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

Hello Pablo,
Thanks for that.  However, I guess I wanted to prove that you can keep things 
on earlier versions, and you're not forced.  It's a first generation air, so 
should take the update fine.  Yes, I have just been keep canceling, but 
everyone can do that.  So I'll say it again, apple tries, but is not forcing 
the updates.Sent from a BrailleNote


 - Original Message -
From: "Pablo C.  Morales" <pablocmd2...@gmail.com
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Tue, 13 Dec 2016 18:05:33 -0500
Subject: RE: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

For three possible reasons.  1.  You had to setup your iPad to avoid 
downloading the IOS.  It is no the default configuration, so if you don't have 
the training to do this, then you will have IOs in your iPad.
2.  You don't have  the last IOs, so you are no able to receive tech support..  
I assume that you don't have the iPad last release, so probably you don't care 
about it.  But if your iPad still is able to receive tech support, then apple 
will decline to give you tech support.
3.  You had cancelled several times the announcements saying that you have a 
IOs update.
One of these is why you are running IOs 9.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rajmund
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 4:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

And you still didn't answer me.  Suppose it's time to copy and paste.  Fine by 
me.  This statement is sooo false:
"> >>>> hi Pablo.
 Yes apple forces us to do the update.
 Sooner or later we have to do it." If this was true, how come I'm still on 9 
with the iPad?
Best regards, the big, huge, troll.  :P



Sent from a Braille Sense

- Original Message -
From: Mc3a1rio_Gabriel  <mario@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 9:05 pm
Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:




 Someone has to tell you.  God, you really are a big Troll.


 as 20:50 de 13/12/2016, Rajmund escreveu:
 Yes, I do.  You said that we're all forced to update.  And I'm telling you 
straight up, publicly, that we're not, otherwise how can I still be on IOS9? 
Feel free to insult me, a few of your messages bought the smile on my face, so 
no worries.  All's good, indeed.



 Sent from a Braille Sense

 - Original Message -
 From: Mc3a1rio_Gabriel  <mario@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Date: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 7:44 pm
 Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:




 We are talking about updates on iOS 10 not 9.  not new releases.
 Do you still want me to tell you something else.  please?
 cheers.


 as 18:23 de 13/12/2016, Rajmund escreveu:
 Hello,
 Interesting, my iPad is still happy on 9.3.5.  If we truly didn't have a 
choice, how come I'm still on 9, please?



 Sent from a Braille Sense

 - Original Message -
 From: Mc3a1rio_Gabriel  <mario@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Date: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 5:08 pm
 Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:





 hi Pablo.
 Yes apple forces us to do the update.
 Sooner or later we have to do it.



 as 16:48 de 13/12/2016, Pablo Cesar Morales escreveu:

 Yes, apple force you tu update.  If you have an iPhone new, and 
you have a problem and you call apple, they are no going to give 
you tech support if you don't have installed the last IOs 
release.  So apple decline the tech support if you don't have 
installed the last IOs release.  Apple by default download the 
IOs and fills your phone memory.  Apple make your life hard with 
hundreds of announcemnts sa

RE: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[rajmund]

Hello Pablo,
Thanks for that.  However, I guess I wanted to
prove that you can keep things on earlier versions, and you're 
not forced.  It's a first generation air, so should
take the update fine.  Yes, I have just been keep canceling, but 
everyone can do that.  So I'll say it again, apple tries, but is 
not forcing the updates.Sent from a BrailleNote



- Original Message -
From: "Pablo C.  Morales" <pablocmd2...@gmail.com
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Tue, 13 Dec 2016 18:05:33 -0500
Subject: RE: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

For three possible reasons.  1.  You had to setup your iPad to 
avoid downloading the IOS.  It is no the default configuration, 
so if you don't have the training to do this, then you will have 
IOs in your iPad.
2.  You don't have  the last IOs, so you are no able to receive 
tech support..  I assume that you don't have the iPad last 
release, so probably you don't care about it.  But if your iPad 
still is able to receive tech support, then apple will decline to 
give you tech support.
3.  You had cancelled several times the announcements saying  
that you have a IOs update.

One of these is why you are running IOs 9.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Rajmund

Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 4:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

And you still didn't answer me.  Suppose it's time to copy and 
paste.  Fine by me.  This statement is sooo false:

"> >>>> hi Pablo.
Yes apple forces us to do the update.
Sooner or later we have to do it." If this was true, how come 
I'm still on 9 with the iPad?

Best regards, the big, huge, troll.  :P



Sent from a Braille Sense

- Original Message -
From: Mc3a1rio_Gabriel  <mario@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 9:05 pm
Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:




Someone has to tell you.  God, you really are a big Troll.


as 20:50 de 13/12/2016, Rajmund escreveu:
Yes, I do.  You said that we're all forced to update.  And I'm 
telling you straight up, publicly, that we're not, otherwise how 
can I still be on IOS9? Feel free to insult me, a few of your 
messages bought the smile on my face, so no worries.  All's good, 
indeed.




Sent from a Braille Sense

- Original Message -
From: Mc3a1rio_Gabriel  <mario@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 7:44 pm
Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:




We are talking about updates on iOS 10 not 9.  not new releases.
Do you still want me to tell you something else.  please?
cheers.


as 18:23 de 13/12/2016, Rajmund escreveu:
Hello,
Interesting, my iPad is still happy on 9.3.5.  If we truly 
didn't have a choice, how come I'm still on 9, please?




Sent from a Braille Sense

- Original Message -
From: Mc3a1rio_Gabriel  <mario@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 5:08 pm
Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:





hi Pablo.
Yes apple forces us to do the update.
Sooner or later we have to do it.



as 16:48 de 13/12/2016, Pablo Cesar Morales escreveu:

Yes, apple force you tu update.  If you have an iPhone new, and 
you have a problem and you call apple, they are no going to give 
you tech support if you don't have installed the last IOs 
release.  So apple decline the tech support if you don't have 
installed the last IOs release.  Apple by default download the 
IOs and fills your phone memory.  Apple make your life hard with 
hundreds of announcemnts saying that the IOs x  is ready to be 
install..

So, if it is no forcing, looks very similar.




From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin

Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 11:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

No one is forcing you to install an update.  I have not done so 
and don't plan too until the keypad issue is fixed for iphone 7.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Pablo Cesar Morales

Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 10:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

Guys,
I was like all of you.  So mad with apple, with the fact that 
they breaks accessibility points that were working before and 
stop working.  I was so mad because apple force you to install 
their IOs version, breaking the accessibility that we need, and 
we need to wait months until we are able to use our phone like we 
were doing before.  Yes, I was so mad.  I tried android, and I 
changed my mind.  Apple is better.
Android is several towns behind than IOs regarding 
accessibility.








From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of regina alvarado

Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 11:03 AM
To: viphone@googl

RE: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[M. Taylor]

Hello All,

Just a quick note to remind you that we're all on the same accessibility team, 
here; so let's take it down a proverbial notch or two and be gracious in how we 
express ourselves.   

I am requesting that we keep this thread on point, said point being the issue 
of the disappearing keypad during calls on iPhone 7.

Thank you for honoring my request.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Devin Prater
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 6:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

Okay, here's my thoughts.
I have sent plenty of feedback to Apple. I was on the beta program with iOS 10, 
probably 9 too. I sent them pretty good ideas, like being able to edit text in 
braille screen input mode, being able to spell check, that is, move from one 
error to the next and correct them using the rotor, using braille screen input 
to input notes, using braille music, into garageband... And of course, the bug 
reports. The mail freezing bug after sending an email, that's embarrassing! And 
now, the focus bugs with moving from message to message in iOS. That's been 
here for months. I reported it all, many times. I received the silence 
treatment, though, including in waiting on bugs to be fixed and features 
implemented. But I didn't stay silent as well, for long. I decided to jump 
ship, and landed on another ship, which is actually moving towards land! I got 
a Google Pixel phone. It's fast, has great battery life, and even a headphone 
jack! Is this revenge against Apple? Shoot, maybe, but it's what we Americans 
call voting with our dollars, and that's what I did. The Pixel isn't some $80 
phone, either. It's Google's own phone, around the price of the iPhone.
Does it have bugs? Yes, especially if you use a bluetooth or USB keyboard with 
it for a long time. Can it be used just like the iPhone? Yep, it sure can, and 
that's what I do. Does it take a little getting used to? Yes, but after a week 
or two, it works fine.
Guys, don't feel like Apple is the only way. It's not. If you don't like being 
walled in, a prisoner of Apple's guidelines on what you can do with the device 
you paid money for, if you don't like the way you can't talk with the 
developers of the screen reader, if you don't like Siri, or having to use 
Safari, then Android is waiting. iOS or Android isn't really about 
accessibility anymore. It's about choice, and all blind people have that choice 
to make.
Now, don't do what I did and get a $80 tablet to try Android on. Make sure the 
thing you get runs android 7, or will run it soon. Don't get a low-speck device 
and expect it to run well, it's just like a computer, which is the beauty of 
it. If you know how to get old low-speck things working, then you can, but if 
you don't, you'll need to spend a little more money.
All that to say, Android isn't 2.3 or 4 anymore. It's 7, and has grown much 
over the years. It's not inaccessible anymore, and is usable. It's a choice 
now, like Mac or Windows. The only reason iOS is seen as better is because it 
was first.

On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 8:29 PM Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com> wrote:
Just another perspective, but I don't think Android is lagging as far
behind Apple in accessibility as others do. I use a Samsung S7 now, and
I find it just as accessible and usable as I do my iPhone. I can't speak
to what other's have experienced with Android, but I think how
accessible you find Android depends a lot on how you use your smart
phone and which smart phone you end up trying. I'm not trying to
convince anyone that Android is better or even as good as IOS; I'm just
presenting another perspective.

On 13/12/16 10:47, Davy Cuppens wrote:
> Guys
>
> Keep please in mind that the IOS platform is the most accessible in the
> world for visually impaired people. Android and windows phone systems
> are lagging far far behind. They are moving up towards Apple but at a
> very slow rate.
>
> Indeed, you are right that we must keep on emphasising Apple to do morre
> but each platform could do more. My own private bank has been accessible
> for years now till last week their app became really 100% useless you
> cannot even login anymore.
> The most accessible ios I have ever seen was ios7.1.2 I wish I could
> revert to that one! grin Regards
> Regards
>
> Davy
>
> *From:* Mário Gabriel <mailto:mario@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 13, 2016 4:02 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> *Subject:* Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks friend
> Someone had to say it.
> It's time to revolt against the irresponsibility Apple has been having
> in recent years.
> Patience also runs out.
> And mine is long gone.
> note:
> I do not respond to fan boys' replies.
>
> It's just my opinion and

Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[Devin Prater]

Okay, here's my thoughts.
I have sent plenty of feedback to Apple. I was on the beta program with iOS
10, probably 9 too. I sent them pretty good ideas, like being able to edit
text in braille screen input mode, being able to spell check, that is, move
from one error to the next and correct them using the rotor, using braille
screen input to input notes, using braille music, into garageband... And of
course, the bug reports. The mail freezing bug after sending an email,
that's embarrassing! And now, the focus bugs with moving from message to
message in iOS. That's been here for months. I reported it all, many times.
I received the silence treatment, though, including in waiting on bugs to
be fixed and features implemented. But I didn't stay silent as well, for
long. I decided to jump ship, and landed on another ship, which is actually
moving towards land! I got a Google Pixel phone. It's fast, has great
battery life, and even a headphone jack! Is this revenge against Apple?
Shoot, maybe, but it's what we Americans call voting with our dollars, and
that's what I did. The Pixel isn't some $80 phone, either. It's Google's
own phone, around the price of the iPhone.
Does it have bugs? Yes, especially if you use a bluetooth or USB keyboard
with it for a long time. Can it be used just like the iPhone? Yep, it sure
can, and that's what I do. Does it take a little getting used to? Yes, but
after a week or two, it works fine.
Guys, don't feel like Apple is the only way. It's not. If you don't like
being walled in, a prisoner of Apple's guidelines on what you can do with
the device you paid money for, if you don't like the way you can't talk
with the developers of the screen reader, if you don't like Siri, or having
to use Safari, then Android is waiting. iOS or Android isn't really about
accessibility anymore. It's about choice, and all blind people have that
choice to make.
Now, don't do what I did and get a $80 tablet to try Android on. Make sure
the thing you get runs android 7, or will run it soon. Don't get a
low-speck device and expect it to run well, it's just like a computer,
which is the beauty of it. If you know how to get old low-speck things
working, then you can, but if you don't, you'll need to spend a little more
money.

All that to say, Android isn't 2.3 or 4 anymore. It's 7, and has grown much
over the years. It's not inaccessible anymore, and is usable. It's a choice
now, like Mac or Windows. The only reason iOS is seen as better is because
it was first.

On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 8:29 PM Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Just another perspective, but I don't think Android is lagging as far
> behind Apple in accessibility as others do. I use a Samsung S7 now, and
> I find it just as accessible and usable as I do my iPhone. I can't speak
> to what other's have experienced with Android, but I think how
> accessible you find Android depends a lot on how you use your smart
> phone and which smart phone you end up trying. I'm not trying to
> convince anyone that Android is better or even as good as IOS; I'm just
> presenting another perspective.
>
> On 13/12/16 10:47, Davy Cuppens wrote:
> > Guys
> >
> > Keep please in mind that the IOS platform is the most accessible in the
> > world for visually impaired people. Android and windows phone systems
> > are lagging far far behind. They are moving up towards Apple but at a
> > very slow rate.
> >
> > Indeed, you are right that we must keep on emphasising Apple to do morre
> > but each platform could do more. My own private bank has been accessible
> > for years now till last week their app became really 100% useless you
> > cannot even login anymore.
> > The most accessible ios I have ever seen was ios7.1.2 I wish I could
> > revert to that one! grin Regards
> > Regards
> >
> > Davy
> >
> > *From:* Mário Gabriel <mailto:mario@gmail.com>
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 13, 2016 4:02 PM
> > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> > *Subject:* Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks friend
> > Someone had to say it.
> > It's time to revolt against the irresponsibility Apple has been having
> > in recent years.
> > Patience also runs out.
> > And mine is long gone.
> > note:
> > I do not respond to fan boys' replies.
> >
> > It's just my opinion and I'm entitled to it.
> > cheers.
> >
> >
> > Às 13:40 de 13/12/2016, Devin Prater escreveu:
> >> Totally right, Mario.
> >>
> >> On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 7:06 AM Mário Gabriel <mario@gmail.com
> >> <mailto:mario@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> 

Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[TaraPrakash]

I also have an iphone 4 with IOS 5 on it. I can still see an update available 
in my generall settings which I am not using. No force. Force means that you 
can't use your phone unless you update it. 


Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 14, 2016, at 4:35 AM, Pablo C. Morales <pablocmd2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> For three possible reasons. 1. You had to setup your iPad to avoid 
> downloading the IOS. It is no the default configuration, so if you don't have 
> the training to do this, then you will have IOs in your iPad.
> 2. You don't have  the last IOs, so you are no able to receive tech support. 
> I assume that you don't have the iPad last release, so probably you don't 
> care about it. But if your iPad still is able to receive tech support, then 
> apple will decline to give you tech support.
> 3. You had cancelled several times the announcements saying  that you have a 
> IOs update.
> One of these is why you are running IOs 9.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Rajmund
> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 4:49 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
> 
> And you still didn't answer me.  Suppose it's time to copy and paste. Fine by 
> me.  This statement is sooo false:
> "> >>>> hi Pablo.
>>>>>> Yes apple forces us to do the update.
>>>>>> Sooner or later we have to do it." If this was true, how come I'm still 
>>>>>> on 9 with the iPad?
> Best regards, the big, huge, troll. :P
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from a Braille Sense 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Mc3a1rio_Gabriel  <mario@gmail.com>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 9:05 pm
> Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Someone has to tell you. God, you really are a big Troll.
>> 
>> 
>> as 20:50 de 13/12/2016, Rajmund escreveu:
>>> Yes, I do. You said that we're all forced to update. And I'm telling you 
>>> straight up, publicly, that we're not, otherwise how can I still be on 
>>> IOS9? Feel free to insult me, a few of your messages bought the smile on my 
>>> face, so no worries. All's good, indeed.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from a Braille Sense
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Mc3a1rio_Gabriel  <mario@gmail.com>
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Date: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 7:44 pm
>>> Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> We are talking about updates on iOS 10 not 9. not new releases.
>>>> Do you still want me to tell you something else. please?
>>>> cheers.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> as 18:23 de 13/12/2016, Rajmund escreveu:
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>> Interesting, my iPad is still happy on 9.3.5. If we truly didn't have a 
>>>>> choice, how come I'm still on 9, please?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from a Braille Sense
>>>>> 
>>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>> From: Mc3a1rio_Gabriel  <mario@gmail.com>
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Date: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 5:08 pm
>>>>> Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> hi Pablo.
>>>>>> Yes apple forces us to do the update.
>>>>>> Sooner or later we have to do it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> as 16:48 de 13/12/2016, Pablo Cesar Morales escreveu:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yes, apple force you tu update. If you have an iPhone new, and you have 
>>>>>> a problem and you call apple, they are no going to give you tech support 
>>>>>> if you don't have installed the last IOs release. So apple decline the 
>>>>>> tech support if you don't have installed the last IOs release. Apple by 
>>>>>> default download the IOs and fills your phone memory. Apple make your 
>>>>>> life hard with hundreds of announcemnts saying that the IOs x  is ready 
>>>>>> to be install.
>>>>>> So, if it is no forcing, looks very similar.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 

Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[Christopher Chaltain]

Just another perspective, but I don't think Android is lagging as far 
behind Apple in accessibility as others do. I use a Samsung S7 now, and 
I find it just as accessible and usable as I do my iPhone. I can't speak 
to what other's have experienced with Android, but I think how 
accessible you find Android depends a lot on how you use your smart 
phone and which smart phone you end up trying. I'm not trying to 
convince anyone that Android is better or even as good as IOS; I'm just 
presenting another perspective.


On 13/12/16 10:47, Davy Cuppens wrote:

Guys

Keep please in mind that the IOS platform is the most accessible in the
world for visually impaired people. Android and windows phone systems
are lagging far far behind. They are moving up towards Apple but at a
very slow rate.

Indeed, you are right that we must keep on emphasising Apple to do morre
but each platform could do more. My own private bank has been accessible
for years now till last week their app became really 100% useless you
cannot even login anymore.
The most accessible ios I have ever seen was ios7.1.2 I wish I could
revert to that one! grin Regards
Regards

Davy

*From:* Mário Gabriel <mailto:mario@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 13, 2016 4:02 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Subject:* Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:






Thanks friend
Someone had to say it.
It's time to revolt against the irresponsibility Apple has been having
in recent years.
Patience also runs out.
And mine is long gone.
note:
I do not respond to fan boys' replies.

It's just my opinion and I'm entitled to it.
cheers.


Às 13:40 de 13/12/2016, Devin Prater escreveu:

Totally right, Mario.

On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 7:06 AM Mário Gabriel <mario@gmail.com
<mailto:mario@gmail.com>> wrote:





How do you know that apple is looking to it?

Apple always looks, but never solves ...

Is that right?



cheers.


Às 11:43 de 13/12/2016, Amy Ruell escreveu:

Hello all, I see the behavior on my iPhone 7 as well. As most of
the numbers I call are in my contacts, I don't have too much
difficulty. However, if there are prompts involved, the only way
to do this is to swipe to the keypad button and activate it.
Amy


Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 13, 2016, at 6:33 AM, Don Breda <don.br...@gmail.com
<mailto:don.br...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Hi Sieghard.

I don't have the problem at all on my iPhone 6 s but my friend
has a 7 and she does have the problem.



The problem is that the keypad disappears once the call is
connected.



It happens if she uses Siri to make the call and it also happens
if she goes in to the phone appp and selects the keypad dials
the call manually as well.



Once the call connects the keypad disappears.



She is not a good iPhoneuser yet and by the time she fines and
enables the keypad again its probably to late.



My phone does not do this at all.



Its frustrating when you need to tenter touch tones to answer
menu prompts etc.



Many people have this issue and many don't.



Apple is looking in to it but I don't think they know why it
happens for some and not others.



Thanks.



Don






On 12-Dec-16 3:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:


Hi Don and others,



Is this something a lot of people experience? I haven't noticed
any difference on my 6S Plus ever since I started using iOS 10,
I am not using the current 10.2 beta so unless it's a problem
here, what is exactly the issue?

When I make or receive a call I may have to tap to bring up the
keypad, but that has always been the case at times, but most of
the time the keypad is there and I actually have to hide it if
I want access to any of the other buttons.



Regards,

Sieghard

**

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Don Breda
*Sent:* Monday, December 12, 2016 12:49 PM
*To:* VIPhone google group mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:



I supposeits to soon to tell but I am wondering if the issue
where the keypad disappears on a phone call when it shouldn't
has been resolved?



This is an issue appple is aware of but I suspect they haven't
nailed it down yet so not getting my hopes up.



Don



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RE: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[Mr. Ed]

There you have it folks. He’s a whiner and a complainer and he never reports 
anything to Apple. 

For your information I have sent emails to Apple support. So there is your 
answer. You are not going to answer because you are just a whiner and a 
complainer. Another thing I am not the one doing the whining and complaining 
like you are. Like I said before if you don’t like Apple then go get an android 
phone. You must be a hard head as people on this list don’t like to hear you 
whining like a little two year old on hear. This group is for grownups. This 
list is to help people with their issues. 

So have a nice day.

Mr. Ed

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mário Gabriel
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 11:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

 



 


Man, why do you think I'm so mad  and furious.

I ask you the same question that you ask me.
How many times have you emailed or talked to Apple 

Do you think I'm going to spend my life reporting issues and never seeing them 
resolved?
you like it?
cheers.

 

Às 16:57 de 13/12/2016, Mr. Ed escreveu:

Hi Mario,

You write this email complaining about Apple not fixing things. I would like to 
ask you a question. How many times have you emailed or talked to Apple support 
on issues you are having. I would be willing to bet you are a whiner and 
complainer about a lot of other things but you don’t try and solve any of them. 
If you have contacted Apple support many times to report issues then I 
apologize to you. If you have not reported any issues and you are so unhappy 
with Apple then why don’t you get an Android phone?  

So by whining and complaining is never going to solve anything. So either email 
Apple support or call them and tell them in a nice way what the issue is. 
Otherwise what good does it do to send an email to this group whining and 
complaining. Nothing is perfect in this world.

 

Mr. Ed

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mário Gabriel
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 9:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

 



 

Thanks friend
Someone had to say it.
It's time to revolt against the irresponsibility Apple has been having in 
recent years.
Patience also runs out.
And mine is long gone.
note:
I do not respond to fan boys' replies.

It's just my opinion and I'm entitled to it.
cheers.

 

Às 13:40 de 13/12/2016, Devin Prater escreveu:

Totally right, Mario.

 

On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 7:06 AM Mário Gabriel <mario@gmail.com> wrote:



 

How do you know that apple is looking to it?

Apple always looks, but never solves ...

Is that right?

 

cheers.

 

Às 11:43 de 13/12/2016, Amy Ruell escreveu:

Hello all, I see the behavior on my iPhone 7 as well. As most of the numbers I 
call are in my contacts, I don't have too much difficulty. However, if there 
are prompts involved, the only way to do this is to swipe to the keypad button 
and activate it.
Amy


Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 13, 2016, at 6:33 AM, Don Breda <don.br...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Sieghard.

I don't have the problem at all on my iPhone 6 s but my friend has a 7 and she 
does have the problem.

 

The problem is that the keypad disappears once the call is connected.

 

It happens if she uses Siri to make the call and it also happens if she goes in 
to the phone appp and selects the keypad dials the call manually as well.

 

Once the call connects the keypad disappears.

 

She is not a good iPhoneuser yet and by the time she fines and enables the 
keypad again its probably to late.

 

My phone does not do this at all.

 

Its frustrating when you need to tenter touch tones to answer menu prompts etc.

 

Many people have this issue and many don't.

 

Apple is looking in to it but I don't think they know why it happens for some 
and not others.

 

Thanks.

 

Don

 

 

 

On 12-Dec-16 3:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi Don and others,

 

Is this something a lot of people experience? I haven't noticed any difference 
on my 6S Plus ever since I started using iOS 10, I am not using the current 
10.2 beta so unless it's a problem here, what is exactly the issue?

When I make or receive a call I may have to tap to bring up the keypad, but 
that has always been the case at times, but most of the time the keypad is 
there and I actually have to hide it if I want access to any of the other 
buttons.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Don Breda
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 12:49 PM
To: VIPhone google group  <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

 

I supposeits to soon to tell but I am wondering if the issue where the keypad 
disappears on a phone call when it shouldn't has been resolved?

 

This is 

RE: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[Pablo C. Morales]

For three possible reasons. 1. You had to setup your iPad to avoid downloading 
the IOS. It is no the default configuration, so if you don't have the training 
to do this, then you will have IOs in your iPad.
2. You don't have  the last IOs, so you are no able to receive tech support. I 
assume that you don't have the iPad last release, so probably you don't care 
about it. But if your iPad still is able to receive tech support, then apple 
will decline to give you tech support.
3. You had cancelled several times the announcements saying  that you have a 
IOs update.
One of these is why you are running IOs 9.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rajmund
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 4:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

And you still didn't answer me.  Suppose it's time to copy and paste. Fine by 
me.  This statement is sooo false:
"> >>>> hi Pablo.
> >>>> Yes apple forces us to do the update.
> >>>> Sooner or later we have to do it." If this was true, how come I'm still 
> >>>> on 9 with the iPad?
Best regards, the big, huge, troll. :P



Sent from a Braille Sense 

- Original Message -
From: Mc3a1rio_Gabriel  <mario@gmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 9:05 pm
Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

>
>
> 
> Someone has to tell you. God, you really are a big Troll.
> 
> 
> as 20:50 de 13/12/2016, Rajmund escreveu:
> > Yes, I do. You said that we're all forced to update. And I'm telling you 
> > straight up, publicly, that we're not, otherwise how can I still be on 
> > IOS9? Feel free to insult me, a few of your messages bought the smile on my 
> > face, so no worries. All's good, indeed.
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from a Braille Sense
> >
> > - Original Message -----
> > From: Mc3a1rio_Gabriel  <mario@gmail.com>
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Date: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 7:44 pm
> > Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> We are talking about updates on iOS 10 not 9. not new releases.
> >> Do you still want me to tell you something else. please?
> >> cheers.
> >>
> >>
> >> as 18:23 de 13/12/2016, Rajmund escreveu:
> >>> Hello,
> >>> Interesting, my iPad is still happy on 9.3.5. If we truly didn't have a 
> >>> choice, how come I'm still on 9, please?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Sent from a Braille Sense
> >>>
> >>> - Original Message -
> >>> From: Mc3a1rio_Gabriel  <mario@gmail.com>
> >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >>> Date: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 5:08 pm
> >>> Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
> >>>
> >>>>   
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> hi Pablo.
> >>>> Yes apple forces us to do the update.
> >>>> Sooner or later we have to do it.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> as 16:48 de 13/12/2016, Pablo Cesar Morales escreveu:
> >>>>
> >>>> Yes, apple force you tu update. If you have an iPhone new, and you have 
> >>>> a problem and you call apple, they are no going to give you tech support 
> >>>> if you don't have installed the last IOs release. So apple decline the 
> >>>> tech support if you don't have installed the last IOs release. Apple by 
> >>>> default download the IOs and fills your phone memory. Apple make your 
> >>>> life hard with hundreds of announcemnts saying that the IOs x  is ready 
> >>>> to be install.
> >>>> So, if it is no forcing, looks very similar.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> >>>> Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin
> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 11:43 AM
> >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >>>> Subject: RE: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
> >>>>
> >>>> No one is forcing you to install an update.  I have not done so and 
> >>>> don't plan too until the keypad issue is fixed for iphone 7.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.

Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[Rajmund]

And you still didn't answer me.  Suppose it's time to copy and paste. Fine by 
me.  This statement is sooo false:
"> >>>> hi Pablo.
> >>>> Yes apple forces us to do the update.
> >>>> Sooner or later we have to do it." If this was true, how come I'm still 
> >>>> on 9 with the iPad?
Best regards, the big, huge, troll. :P



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- Original Message -
From: Mc3a1rio_Gabriel  <mario@gmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 9:05 pm
Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

>
>
> 
> Someone has to tell you. God, you really are a big Troll.
> 
> 
> as 20:50 de 13/12/2016, Rajmund escreveu:
> > Yes, I do. You said that we're all forced to update. And I'm telling you 
> > straight up, publicly, that we're not, otherwise how can I still be on 
> > IOS9? Feel free to insult me, a few of your messages bought the smile on my 
> > face, so no worries. All's good, indeed.
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from a Braille Sense
> >
> > - Original Message -----
> > From: Mc3a1rio_Gabriel  <mario@gmail.com>
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Date: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 7:44 pm
> > Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> We are talking about updates on iOS 10 not 9. not new releases.
> >> Do you still want me to tell you something else. please?
> >> cheers.
> >>
> >>
> >> as 18:23 de 13/12/2016, Rajmund escreveu:
> >>> Hello,
> >>> Interesting, my iPad is still happy on 9.3.5. If we truly didn't have a 
> >>> choice, how come I'm still on 9, please?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Sent from a Braille Sense
> >>>
> >>> - Original Message -
> >>> From: Mc3a1rio_Gabriel  <mario@gmail.com>
> >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >>> Date: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 5:08 pm
> >>> Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
> >>>
> >>>>   
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> hi Pablo.
> >>>> Yes apple forces us to do the update.
> >>>> Sooner or later we have to do it.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> as 16:48 de 13/12/2016, Pablo Cesar Morales escreveu:
> >>>>
> >>>> Yes, apple force you tu update. If you have an iPhone new, and you have 
> >>>> a problem and you call apple, they are no going to give you tech support 
> >>>> if you don't have installed the last IOs release. So apple decline the 
> >>>> tech support if you don't have installed the last IOs release. Apple by 
> >>>> default download the IOs and fills your phone memory. Apple make your 
> >>>> life hard with hundreds of announcemnts saying that the IOs x  is ready 
> >>>> to be install.
> >>>> So, if it is no forcing, looks very similar.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> >>>> Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin
> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 11:43 AM
> >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >>>> Subject: RE: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
> >>>>
> >>>> No one is forcing you to install an update.  I have not done so and 
> >>>> don't plan too until the keypad issue is fixed for iphone 7.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> >>>> Behalf Of Pablo Cesar Morales
> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 10:37 AM
> >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >>>> Subject: RE: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
> >>>>
> >>>> Guys,
> >>>> I was like all of you. So mad with apple, with the fact that they breaks 
> >>>> accessibility points that were working before and stop working. I was so 
> >>>> mad because apple force you to install their IOs version, breaking the 
> >>>> accessibility that we need, and we need to wait months until we are able 
> >>>> to use our phone like we were doing before. Yes, I was so mad. I tried 
> >>>> android, and I changed my mind. Apple is better.
> >&

Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[Mário Gabriel]

Someone has to tell you. God, you really are a big Troll.


Às 20:50 de 13/12/2016, Rajmund escreveu:

Yes, I do. You said that we're all forced to update. And I'm telling you 
straight up, publicly, that we're not, otherwise how can I still be on IOS9? 
Feel free to insult me, a few of your messages bought the smile on my face, so 
no worries. All's good, indeed.



Sent from a Braille Sense

- Original Message -
From: Mc3a1rio_Gabriel  <mario@gmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 7:44 pm
Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:





We are talking about updates on iOS 10 not 9. not new releases.
Do you still want me to tell you something else. please?
cheers.


as 18:23 de 13/12/2016, Rajmund escreveu:

Hello,
Interesting, my iPad is still happy on 9.3.5. If we truly didn't have a choice, 
how come I'm still on 9, please?



Sent from a Braille Sense

- Original Message -
From: Mc3a1rio_Gabriel  <mario@gmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 5:08 pm
Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

  




hi Pablo.
Yes apple forces us to do the update.
Sooner or later we have to do it.



as 16:48 de 13/12/2016, Pablo Cesar Morales escreveu:

Yes, apple force you tu update. If you have an iPhone new, and you have a 
problem and you call apple, they are no going to give you tech support if you 
don't have installed the last IOs release. So apple decline the tech support if 
you don't have installed the last IOs release. Apple by default download the 
IOs and fills your phone memory. Apple make your life hard with hundreds of 
announcemnts saying that the IOs x  is ready to be install.
So, if it is no forcing, looks very similar.
   
   
   
   
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin

Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 11:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
   
No one is forcing you to install an update.  I have not done so and don't plan too until the keypad issue is fixed for iphone 7.
   
   
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Cesar Morales

Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 10:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
   
Guys,

I was like all of you. So mad with apple, with the fact that they breaks 
accessibility points that were working before and stop working. I was so mad 
because apple force you to install their IOs version, breaking the 
accessibility that we need, and we need to wait months until we are able to use 
our phone like we were doing before. Yes, I was so mad. I tried android, and I 
changed my mind. Apple is better.
Android is several towns behind than IOs regarding accessibility.
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of regina alvarado

Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 11:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
   
   
mario, call support as Pete suggested. The more people who call the more it will be fixed. If not an option for you, please try Android. I have heard it is pretty good, though as with Apple there are some issues too. Please call Apple support not email, and help list traffic by helping not complaining, please.
   
Reggie and Lex
   


On Dec 13, 2016, at 8:06 AM, Mário Gabriel <mario@gmail.com> wrote:
  
   
How do you know that apple is looking to it?

Apple always looks, but never solves ...
Is that right?
   
cheers.
   
as 11:43 de 13/12/2016, Amy Ruell escreveu:

Hello all, I see the behavior on my iPhone 7 as well. As most of the numbers I 
call are in my contacts, I don't have too much difficulty. However, if there 
are prompts involved, the only way to do this is to swipe to the keypad button 
and activate it.
Amy

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 13, 2016, at 6:33 AM, Don Breda <don.br...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Sieghard.
I don't have the problem at all on my iPhone 6 s but my friend has a 7 and she 
does have the problem.
   
The problem is that the keypad disappears once the call is connected.
   
It happens if she uses Siri to make the call and it also happens if she goes in to the phone appp and selects the keypad dials the call manually as well.
   
Once the call connects the keypad disappears.
   
She is not a good iPhoneuser yet and by the time she fines and enables the keypad again its probably to late.
   
My phone does not do this at all.
   
Its frustrating when you need to tenter touch tones to answer menu prompts etc.
   
Many people have this issue and many don't.
   
Apple is looking in to it but I don't think they know why it happens for some and not others.
   
Thanks.
   
Don
   
   
   
On 12-Dec-16 3:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi Don and others,
   
Is this something a lot of people experience? I haven't noticed

Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[Rajmund]

Yes, I do. You said that we're all forced to update. And I'm telling you 
straight up, publicly, that we're not, otherwise how can I still be on IOS9? 
Feel free to insult me, a few of your messages bought the smile on my face, so 
no worries. All's good, indeed.



Sent from a Braille Sense 

- Original Message -
From: Mc3a1rio_Gabriel  <mario@gmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 7:44 pm
Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

>
>
> 
> 
> We are talking about updates on iOS 10 not 9. not new releases.
> Do you still want me to tell you something else. please?
> cheers.
> 
> 
> as 18:23 de 13/12/2016, Rajmund escreveu:
> > Hello,
> > Interesting, my iPad is still happy on 9.3.5. If we truly didn't have a 
> > choice, how come I'm still on 9, please?
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from a Braille Sense
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Mc3a1rio_Gabriel  <mario@gmail.com>
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Date: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 5:08 pm
> > Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
> >
> >>
> >>  
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> hi Pablo.
> >> Yes apple forces us to do the update.
> >> Sooner or later we have to do it.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> as 16:48 de 13/12/2016, Pablo Cesar Morales escreveu:
> >>
> >> Yes, apple force you tu update. If you have an iPhone new, and you have a 
> >> problem and you call apple, they are no going to give you tech support if 
> >> you don't have installed the last IOs release. So apple decline the tech 
> >> support if you don't have installed the last IOs release. Apple by default 
> >> download the IOs and fills your phone memory. Apple make your life hard 
> >> with hundreds of announcemnts saying that the IOs x  is ready to be 
> >> install.
> >> So, if it is no forcing, looks very similar.
> >>   
> >>   
> >>   
> >>   
> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> >> Of Larry Lumpkin
> >> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 11:43 AM
> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >> Subject: RE: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
> >>   
> >> No one is forcing you to install an update.  I have not done so and don't 
> >> plan too until the keypad issue is fixed for iphone 7.
> >>   
> >>   
> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> >> Of Pablo Cesar Morales
> >> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 10:37 AM
> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >> Subject: RE: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
> >>   
> >> Guys,
> >> I was like all of you. So mad with apple, with the fact that they breaks 
> >> accessibility points that were working before and stop working. I was so 
> >> mad because apple force you to install their IOs version, breaking the 
> >> accessibility that we need, and we need to wait months until we are able 
> >> to use our phone like we were doing before. Yes, I was so mad. I tried 
> >> android, and I changed my mind. Apple is better.
> >> Android is several towns behind than IOs regarding accessibility.
> >>   
> >>   
> >>   
> >>   
> >>   
> >>   
> >>   
> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> >> Of regina alvarado
> >> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 11:03 AM
> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >> Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
> >>   
> >>   
> >> mario, call support as Pete suggested. The more people who call the more 
> >> it will be fixed. If not an option for you, please try Android. I have 
> >> heard it is pretty good, though as with Apple there are some issues too. 
> >> Please call Apple support not email, and help list traffic by helping not 
> >> complaining, please.
> >>   
> >> Reggie and Lex
> >>   
> >>
> >> On Dec 13, 2016, at 8:06 AM, Mário Gabriel <mario@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>  
> >>   
> >> How do you know that apple is looking to it?
> >> Apple always looks, but never solves ...
> >> Is that right?
> >>   
> >> cheers.
> >>   
> >> as 11:43 de 13/12/2016, Amy Ruell escreveu:
> >> Hello all, I see the behavior on my iPhone 7 as well. As most of the 
> >> num

Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[Mário Gabriel]

We are talking about updates on iOS 10 not 9. not new releases.
Do you still want me to tell you something else. please?
cheers.


Às 18:23 de 13/12/2016, Rajmund escreveu:

Hello,
Interesting, my iPad is still happy on 9.3.5. If we truly didn't have a choice, 
how come I'm still on 9, please?



Sent from a Braille Sense

- Original Message -
From: Mc3a1rio_Gabriel  <mario@gmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 5:08 pm
Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:



 




hi Pablo.
Yes apple forces us to do the update.
Sooner or later we have to do it.



as 16:48 de 13/12/2016, Pablo Cesar Morales escreveu:

Yes, apple force you tu update. If you have an iPhone new, and you have a 
problem and you call apple, they are no going to give you tech support if you 
don't have installed the last IOs release. So apple decline the tech support if 
you don't have installed the last IOs release. Apple by default download the 
IOs and fills your phone memory. Apple make your life hard with hundreds of 
announcemnts saying that the IOs x  is ready to be install.
So, if it is no forcing, looks very similar.
  
  
  
  
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin

Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 11:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
  
No one is forcing you to install an update.  I have not done so and don't plan too until the keypad issue is fixed for iphone 7.
  
  
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Cesar Morales

Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 10:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
  
Guys,

I was like all of you. So mad with apple, with the fact that they breaks 
accessibility points that were working before and stop working. I was so mad 
because apple force you to install their IOs version, breaking the 
accessibility that we need, and we need to wait months until we are able to use 
our phone like we were doing before. Yes, I was so mad. I tried android, and I 
changed my mind. Apple is better.
Android is several towns behind than IOs regarding accessibility.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of regina alvarado

Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 11:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
  
  
mario, call support as Pete suggested. The more people who call the more it will be fixed. If not an option for you, please try Android. I have heard it is pretty good, though as with Apple there are some issues too. Please call Apple support not email, and help list traffic by helping not complaining, please.
  
Reggie and Lex
  


On Dec 13, 2016, at 8:06 AM, Mário Gabriel <mario@gmail.com> wrote:
 
  
How do you know that apple is looking to it?

Apple always looks, but never solves ...
Is that right?
  
cheers.
  
as 11:43 de 13/12/2016, Amy Ruell escreveu:

Hello all, I see the behavior on my iPhone 7 as well. As most of the numbers I 
call are in my contacts, I don't have too much difficulty. However, if there 
are prompts involved, the only way to do this is to swipe to the keypad button 
and activate it.
Amy

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 13, 2016, at 6:33 AM, Don Breda <don.br...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Sieghard.
I don't have the problem at all on my iPhone 6 s but my friend has a 7 and she 
does have the problem.
  
The problem is that the keypad disappears once the call is connected.
  
It happens if she uses Siri to make the call and it also happens if she goes in to the phone appp and selects the keypad dials the call manually as well.
  
Once the call connects the keypad disappears.
  
She is not a good iPhoneuser yet and by the time she fines and enables the keypad again its probably to late.
  
My phone does not do this at all.
  
Its frustrating when you need to tenter touch tones to answer menu prompts etc.
  
Many people have this issue and many don't.
  
Apple is looking in to it but I don't think they know why it happens for some and not others.
  
Thanks.
  
Don
  
  
  
On 12-Dec-16 3:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi Don and others,
  
Is this something a lot of people experience? I haven't noticed any difference on my 6S Plus ever since I started using iOS 10, I am not using the current 10.2 beta so unless it's a problem here, what is exactly the issue?

When I make or receive a call I may have to tap to bring up the keypad, but 
that has always been the case at times, but most of the time the keypad is 
there and I actually have to hide it if I want access to any of the other 
buttons.
  
Regards,

Sieghard
  
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Don Breda

Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 12:49 PM
To: VIPhone google group <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: IOS 10.2 and p

Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[Rajmund]

Hello,
Interesting, my iPad is still happy on 9.3.5. If we truly didn't have a choice, 
how come I'm still on 9, please?



Sent from a Braille Sense 

- Original Message -
From: Mc3a1rio_Gabriel  <mario@gmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 5:08 pm
Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

>
>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> hi Pablo.
> Yes apple forces us to do the update.
> Sooner or later we have to do it.
> 
> 
> 
> as 16:48 de 13/12/2016, Pablo Cesar Morales escreveu:
> 
> Yes, apple force you tu update. If you have an iPhone new, and you have a 
> problem and you call apple, they are no going to give you tech support if you 
> don't have installed the last IOs release. So apple decline the tech support 
> if you don't have installed the last IOs release. Apple by default download 
> the IOs and fills your phone memory. Apple make your life hard with hundreds 
> of announcemnts saying that the IOs x  is ready to be install.
> So, if it is no forcing, looks very similar.
>  
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Larry Lumpkin
> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 11:43 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
>  
> No one is forcing you to install an update.  I have not done so and don't 
> plan too until the keypad issue is fixed for iphone 7.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Pablo Cesar Morales
> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 10:37 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
>  
> Guys,
> I was like all of you. So mad with apple, with the fact that they breaks 
> accessibility points that were working before and stop working. I was so mad 
> because apple force you to install their IOs version, breaking the 
> accessibility that we need, and we need to wait months until we are able to 
> use our phone like we were doing before. Yes, I was so mad. I tried android, 
> and I changed my mind. Apple is better.
> Android is several towns behind than IOs regarding accessibility.
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> regina alvarado
> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 11:03 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
>  
>  
> mario, call support as Pete suggested. The more people who call the more it 
> will be fixed. If not an option for you, please try Android. I have heard it 
> is pretty good, though as with Apple there are some issues too. Please call 
> Apple support not email, and help list traffic by helping not complaining, 
> please.
>  
> Reggie and Lex
>  
> 
> On Dec 13, 2016, at 8:06 AM, Mário Gabriel <mario@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>  
> How do you know that apple is looking to it?
> Apple always looks, but never solves ...
> Is that right?
>  
> cheers.
>  
> as 11:43 de 13/12/2016, Amy Ruell escreveu:
> Hello all, I see the behavior on my iPhone 7 as well. As most of the numbers 
> I call are in my contacts, I don't have too much difficulty. However, if 
> there are prompts involved, the only way to do this is to swipe to the keypad 
> button and activate it.
> Amy
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Dec 13, 2016, at 6:33 AM, Don Breda <don.br...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Sieghard.
> I don't have the problem at all on my iPhone 6 s but my friend has a 7 and 
> she does have the problem.
>  
> The problem is that the keypad disappears once the call is connected.
>  
> It happens if she uses Siri to make the call and it also happens if she goes 
> in to the phone appp and selects the keypad dials the call manually as well.
>  
> Once the call connects the keypad disappears.
>  
> She is not a good iPhoneuser yet and by the time she fines and enables the 
> keypad again its probably to late.
>  
> My phone does not do this at all.
>  
> Its frustrating when you need to tenter touch tones to answer menu prompts 
> etc.
>  
> Many people have this issue and many don't.
>  
> Apple is looking in to it but I don't think they know why it happens for some 
> and not others.
>  
> Thanks.
>  
> Don
>  
>  
>  
> On 12-Dec-16 3:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> Hi Don and others,
>  
> Is this something a lot of people experience? I haven't noticed any 
> difference on my 6S Plus ever since I started using iOS 10, I am not using 
> the current 10.2 beta so unless it's a problem here, what is exactly the 
> issue?
> When I make or receive a call I may hav

Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[Anthony Vece]

You are most certainly entitled to your opinion and your emotions. However the 
way you were presenting it makes you look bad.

Sent from my iPad

> On Dec 13, 2016, at 10:02 AM, Mário Gabriel <mario@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks friend
> Someone had to say it.
> It's time to revolt against the irresponsibility Apple has been having in 
> recent years.
> Patience also runs out.
> And mine is long gone.
> note:
> I do not respond to fan boys' replies.
> 
> It's just my opinion and I'm entitled to it.
> cheers.
> 
> Às 13:40 de 13/12/2016, Devin Prater escreveu:
>> Totally right, Mario.
>> 
>>> On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 7:06 AM Mário Gabriel <mario@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> How do you know that apple is looking to it?
>>> 
>>> Apple always looks, but never solves ...
>>> 
>>> Is that right?
>>> 
>>> cheers.
>>> 
>>> Às 11:43 de 13/12/2016, Amy Ruell escreveu:
>>>> Hello all, I see the behavior on my iPhone 7 as well. As most of the 
>>>> numbers I call are in my contacts, I don't have too much difficulty. 
>>>> However, if there are prompts involved, the only way to do this is to 
>>>> swipe to the keypad button and activate it.
>>>> Amy
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On Dec 13, 2016, at 6:33 AM, Don Breda <don.br...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Sieghard.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I don't have the problem at all on my iPhone 6 s but my friend has a 7 
>>>>> and she does have the problem.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> The problem is that the keypad disappears once the call is connected.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> It happens if she uses Siri to make the call and it also happens if she 
>>>>> goes in to the phone appp and selects the keypad dials the call manually 
>>>>> as well.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Once the call connects the keypad disappears.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> She is not a good iPhoneuser yet and by the time she fines and enables 
>>>>> the keypad again its probably to late.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> My phone does not do this at all.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Its frustrating when you need to tenter touch tones to answer menu 
>>>>> prompts etc.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Many people have this issue and many don't.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Apple is looking in to it but I don't think they know why it happens for 
>>>>> some and not others.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Don
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 12-Dec-16 3:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Don and others,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Is this something a lot of people experience? I haven't noticed any 
>>>>>> difference on my 6S Plus ever since I started using iOS 10, I am not 
>>>>>> using the current 10.2 beta so unless it's a problem here, what is 
>>>>>> exactly the issue?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> When I make or receive a call I may have to tap to bring up the keypad, 
>>>>>> but that has always been the case at times, but most of the time the 
>>>>>> keypad is there and I actually have to hide it if I want access to any 
>>>>>> of the other buttons.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sieghard
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>>>>> Behalf Of Don Breda
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 12:49 PM
>>>>>> To: VIPhone google group <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>> Subject: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I supposeits to soon to tell but I am wondering if the issue where the 

Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[Anthony Vece]

Please take your childish emotions off this list.
No one wants to read them and, they don't solve anything.
Thank you in advance.

Sent from my iPad

> On Dec 13, 2016, at 12:51 PM, Mário Gabriel <mario@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Pablo
> Yes I know VO is still the best screen reader in the world  for devices.
> And that the apple platform is also the most accessible.
> 
> Yes, I prefer issues with accessibility than  without  accessibility.
> Yes, I also know all the talkback issues on android, and everything else you 
> can talk about.
> But all this does not take away my rights to want more and demand what normal 
> people demand ...
> 
> We can not stay all the time saying amen to all the good that apple has done 
> in the past and now it does bad in the present.
> I have my rights and always fight for them.
> And my rights have to be respected by apple as well as apple respects the 
> rights of normal people.
> Apple has to work for me as an obligation and respect as a duty.
> Apple can not think that it works for me as if it were doing me a favor.
> I paid a small fortune to have a phone, and because Apple says on their 
> official accessibility website that their devices are 100 percent accessible 
> and can be used with total satisfaction.
> And this is not true.
> The issues of accessibility have to have the same commitment that apple has 
> with normal people.
> I am being discriminated and I have to fight for my rights.
> And that's what we should all do.
> cheers.
> 
> Às 16:44 de 13/12/2016, Pablo Cesar Morales escreveu:
>> Mario,
>> I understand you very well. Months ago, I was so mad. Months ago I was in 
>> the list so mad about the ssame issues that you are talking about. However, 
>> I tried android, and I learned that if IOs is no perfect, it is better than 
>> android regarding accessibility.
>> IOs is no working well, apple broke the accessibility that was working 
>> before, apple is affecting you because you are no able to use your device in 
>> the way how you should. Yes, all of these are true.
>> But the accessibility on android is no like the accessibility in IOs. My 
>> suggestion is that you get relax, and write an email with all the points how 
>> IOs is affecting you with this update. If they don’t heard you, they are no 
>> going to fix anything. Android has fixed some of the accessibility issues in 
>> the last 5 yeears?
>> No, and they have improved accessibility  very little in the last android 
>> updates.
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Mário Gabriel
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 11:27 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
>>  
>>
>> 
>> 
>> don't   be fullish.
>> What do you think I've been doing?
>> What do you think we've all done?
>> Do you think we were rewarded for it?
>> And you, have done your part?
>> come on girl, open your eyes.
>> cheers.
>> 
>>  
>> Às 16:03 de 13/12/2016, regina alvarado escreveu:
>>  
>> mario, call support as Pete suggested. The more people who call the more it 
>> will be fixed. If not an option for you, please try Android. I have heard it 
>> is pretty good, though as with Apple there are some issues too. Please call 
>> Apple support not email, and help list traffic by helping not complaining, 
>> please.
>> 
>>  
>> Reggie and Lex
>>  
>> 
>> On Dec 13, 2016, at 8:06 AM, Mário Gabriel <mario@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> How do you know that apple is looking to it?
>> 
>> Apple always looks, but never solves ...
>> 
>> Is that right?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> cheers.
>> 
>>  
>> Às 11:43 de 13/12/2016, Amy Ruell escreveu:
>> Hello all, I see the behavior on my iPhone 7 as well. As most of the numbers 
>> I call are in my contacts, I don't have too much difficulty. However, if 
>> there are prompts involved, the only way to do this is to swipe to the 
>> keypad button and activate it.
>> Amy
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Dec 13, 2016, at 6:33 AM, Don Breda <don.br...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Sieghard.
>> 
>> I don't have the problem at all on my iPhone 6 s but my friend has a 7 and 
>> she does have the problem.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> The problem is that the keypad disappears once the call is connected.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> It happens if she uses Siri to ma

Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[Donald L. Roberts]

I too have these issues on my iPhone 6.


Don Roberts



On 12/13/2016 3:33 AM, Don Breda wrote:


Hi Sieghard.

I don't have the problem at all on my iPhone 6 s but my friend has a 7 
and she does have the problem.



The problem is that the keypad disappears once the call is connected.


It happens if she uses Siri to make the call and it also happens if 
she goes in to the phone appp and selects the keypad dials the call 
manually as well.



Once the call connects the keypad disappears.


She is not a good iPhoneuser yet and by the time she fines and enables 
the keypad again its probably to late.



My phone does not do this at all.


Its frustrating when you need to tenter touch tones to answer menu 
prompts etc.



Many people have this issue and many don't.


Apple is looking in to it but I don't think they know why it happens 
for some and not others.



Thanks.


Don




On 12-Dec-16 3:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:


Hi Don and others,

Is this something a lot of people experience? I haven't noticed any 
difference on my 6S Plus ever since I started using iOS 10, I am not 
using the current 10.2 beta so unless it's a problem here, what is 
exactly the issue?


When I make or receive a call I may have to tap to bring up the 
keypad, but that has always been the case at times, but most of the 
time the keypad is there and I actually have to hide it if I want 
access to any of the other buttons.


Regards,

Sieghard

**

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On 
Behalf Of *Don Breda

*Sent:* Monday, December 12, 2016 12:49 PM
*To:* VIPhone google group <viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Subject:* IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

I supposeits to soon to tell but I am wondering if the issue where 
the keypad disappears on a phone call when it shouldn't has been 
resolved?


This is an issue appple is aware of but I suspect they haven't nailed 
it down yet so not getting my hopes up.


Don

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Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[Mário Gabriel]

If you do not appreciate my language, do not eat.
I'm not here to please you.

I did not talk with  you.
Put yourself in your place


Às 17:28 de 13/12/2016, Anthony Vece escreveu:

I don't appreciate your language either Mario. it's not nice

Sent from my iPad

On Dec 13, 2016, at 11:57 AM, Mr. Ed <pink...@abe.midco.net 
<mailto:pink...@abe.midco.net>> wrote:



Hi Mario,

You write this email complaining about Apple not fixing things. I 
would like to ask you a question. How many times have you emailed or 
talked to Apple support on issues you are having. I would be willing 
to bet you are a whiner and complainer about a lot of other things 
but you don’t try and solve any of them. If you have contacted Apple 
support many times to report issues then I apologize to you. If you 
have not reported any issues and you are so unhappy with Apple then 
why don’t you get an Android phone?


So by whining and complaining is never going to solve anything. So 
either email Apple support or call them and tell them in a nice way 
what the issue is. Otherwise what good does it do to send an email to 
this group whining and complaining. Nothing is perfect in this world.


Mr. Ed

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Mário Gabriel

*Sent:* Tuesday, December 13, 2016 9:02 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Subject:* Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

Thanks friend
Someone had to say it.
It's time to revolt against the irresponsibility Apple has been 
having in recent years.

Patience also runs out.
And mine is long gone.
note:
I do not respond to fan boys' replies.

It's just my opinion and I'm entitled to it.
cheers.

Às 13:40 de 13/12/2016, Devin Prater escreveu:

Totally right, Mario.

On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 7:06 AM Mário Gabriel
<mario@gmail.com <mailto:mario@gmail.com>> wrote:

How do you know that apple is looking to it?

Apple always looks, but never solves ...

Is that right?

cheers.

Às 11:43 de 13/12/2016, Amy Ruell escreveu:

Hello all, I see the behavior on my iPhone 7 as well. As
most of the numbers I call are in my contacts, I don't
have too much difficulty. However, if there are prompts
involved, the only way to do this is to swipe to the
keypad button and activate it.
Amy


Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 13, 2016, at 6:33 AM, Don Breda
<don.br...@gmail.com <mailto:don.br...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Sieghard.

I don't have the problem at all on my iPhone 6 s but
my friend has a 7 and she does have the problem.

The problem is that the keypad disappears once the
call is connected.

It happens if she uses Siri to make the call and it
also happens if she goes in to the phone appp and
selects the keypad dials the call manually as well.

Once the call connects the keypad disappears.

She is not a good iPhoneuser yet and by the time she
fines and enables the keypad again its probably to late.

My phone does not do this at all.

Its frustrating when you need to tenter touch tones
to answer menu prompts etc.

Many people have this issue and many don't.

Apple is looking in to it but I don't think they know
why it happens for some and not others.

Thanks.

Don

On 12-Dec-16 3:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi Don and others,

Is this something a lot of people experience? I
haven't noticed any difference on my 6S Plus ever
since I started using iOS 10, I am not using the
current 10.2 beta so unless it's a problem here,
what is exactly the issue?

When I make or receive a call I may have to tap
to bring up the keypad, but that has always been
the case at times, but most of the time the
keypad is there and I actually have to hide it if
I want access to any of the other buttons.

Regards,

Sieghard

**

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of
*Don Breda
*Sent:* Monday, December 12, 2016 12:49 PM
*To:* VIPhone google group
<viphone@googlegroups.com>
<mail

Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[pegkane52]

I agree with Mr. Ed if you have reported the issue to Apple and are still 
dissatisfied why don't you try an android phone and maybe you will like that 
better.

Peggy Sent from my IPhone.


> On Dec 13, 2016, at 11:57 AM, Mr. Ed <pink...@abe.midco.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi Mario,
> You write this email complaining about Apple not fixing things. I would like 
> to ask you a question. How many times have you emailed or talked to Apple 
> support on issues you are having. I would be willing to bet you are a whiner 
> and complainer about a lot of other things but you don’t try and solve any of 
> them. If you have contacted Apple support many times to report issues then I 
> apologize to you. If you have not reported any issues and you are so unhappy 
> with Apple then why don’t you get an Android phone?  
> So by whining and complaining is never going to solve anything. So either 
> email Apple support or call them and tell them in a nice way what the issue 
> is. Otherwise what good does it do to send an email to this group whining and 
> complaining. Nothing is perfect in this world.
>  
> Mr. Ed
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mário Gabriel
> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 9:02 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
>  
>
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks friend
> Someone had to say it.
> It's time to revolt against the irresponsibility Apple has been having in 
> recent years.
> Patience also runs out.
> And mine is long gone.
> note:
> I do not respond to fan boys' replies.
> 
> It's just my opinion and I'm entitled to it.
> cheers.
> 
>  
> Às 13:40 de 13/12/2016, Devin Prater escreveu:
> Totally right, Mario.
>  
> On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 7:06 AM Mário Gabriel <mario@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 
>  
> 
> How do you know that apple is looking to it?
> 
> Apple always looks, but never solves ...
> 
> Is that right?
> 
>  
> 
> cheers.
> 
>  
> Às 11:43 de 13/12/2016, Amy Ruell escreveu:
> Hello all, I see the behavior on my iPhone 7 as well. As most of the numbers 
> I call are in my contacts, I don't have too much difficulty. However, if 
> there are prompts involved, the only way to do this is to swipe to the keypad 
> button and activate it.
> Amy
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Dec 13, 2016, at 6:33 AM, Don Breda <don.br...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Sieghard.
> 
> I don't have the problem at all on my iPhone 6 s but my friend has a 7 and 
> she does have the problem.
> 
>  
> 
> The problem is that the keypad disappears once the call is connected.
> 
>  
> 
> It happens if she uses Siri to make the call and it also happens if she goes 
> in to the phone appp and selects the keypad dials the call manually as well.
> 
>  
> 
> Once the call connects the keypad disappears.
> 
>  
> 
> She is not a good iPhoneuser yet and by the time she fines and enables the 
> keypad again its probably to late.
> 
>  
> 
> My phone does not do this at all.
> 
>  
> 
> Its frustrating when you need to tenter touch tones to answer menu prompts 
> etc.
> 
>  
> 
> Many people have this issue and many don't.
> 
>  
> 
> Apple is looking in to it but I don't think they know why it happens for some 
> and not others.
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks.
> 
>  
> 
> Don
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> On 12-Dec-16 3:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> Hi Don and others,
>  
> Is this something a lot of people experience? I haven't noticed any 
> difference on my 6S Plus ever since I started using iOS 10, I am not using 
> the current 10.2 beta so unless it's a problem here, what is exactly the 
> issue?
> When I make or receive a call I may have to tap to bring up the keypad, but 
> that has always been the case at times, but most of the time the keypad is 
> there and I actually have to hide it if I want access to any of the other 
> buttons.
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Don Breda
> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 12:49 PM
> To: VIPhone google group <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
>  
> I supposeits to soon to tell but I am wondering if the issue where the keypad 
> disappears on a phone call when it shouldn't has been resolved?
> 
>  
> 
> This is an issue appple is aware of but I suspect they haven't nailed it down 
> yet so not getting my hopes up.
> 
>  
> 
> Don
> 
>  
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all

Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[Mário Gabriel]

Hi Pablo
Yes I know VO is still the best screen reader in the world  for devices.
And that the apple platform is also the most accessible.

Yes, I prefer issues with accessibility than  without accessibility.
Yes, I also know all the talkback issues on android, and everything else 
you can talk about.
But all this does not take away my rights to want more and demand what 
normal people demand ...


We can not stay all the time saying amen to all the good that apple has 
done in the past and now it does bad in the present.

I have my rights and always fight for them.
And my rights have to be respected by apple as well as apple respects 
the rights of normal people.

Apple has to work for me as an obligation and respect as a duty.
Apple can not think that it works for me as if it were doing me a favor.
I paid a small fortune to have a phone, and because Apple says on their 
official accessibility website that their devices are 100 percent 
accessible and can be used with total satisfaction.

And this is not true.
The issues of accessibility have to have the same commitment that apple 
has with normal people.

I am being discriminated and I have to fight for my rights.
And that's what we should all do.
cheers.


Às 16:44 de 13/12/2016, Pablo Cesar Morales escreveu:


Mario,

I understand you very well. Months ago, I was so mad. Months ago I was 
in the list so mad about the ssame issues that you are talking about. 
However, I tried android, and I learned that if IOs is no perfect, it 
is better than android regarding accessibility.


IOs is no working well, apple broke the accessibility that was working 
before, apple is affecting you because you are no able to use your 
device in the way how you should. Yes, all of these are true.


But the accessibility on android is no like the accessibility in IOs. 
My suggestion is that you get relax, and write an email with all the 
points how IOs is affecting you with this update. If they don’t heard 
you, they are no going to fix anything. Android has fixed some of the 
accessibility issues in the last 5 yeears?


No, and they have improved accessibility  very little in the last 
android updates.


*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On 
Behalf Of *Mário Gabriel

*Sent:* Tuesday, December 13, 2016 11:27 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:


don't   be fullish.
What do you think I've been doing?
What do you think we've all done?
Do you think we were rewarded for it?
And you, have done your part?
come on girl, open your eyes.
cheers.

Às 16:03 de 13/12/2016, regina alvarado escreveu:

mario, call support as Pete suggested. The more people who call
the more it will be fixed. If not an option for you, please try
Android. I have heard it is pretty good, though as with Apple
there are some issues too. Please call Apple support not email,
and help list traffic by helping not complaining, please.

Reggie and Lex


On Dec 13, 2016, at 8:06 AM, Mário Gabriel <mario@gmail.com
<mailto:mario@gmail.com>> wrote:

How do you know that apple is looking to it?

Apple always looks, but never solves ...

Is that right?

cheers.

Às 11:43 de 13/12/2016, Amy Ruell escreveu:

Hello all, I see the behavior on my iPhone 7 as well. As most
of the numbers I call are in my contacts, I don't have too
much difficulty. However, if there are prompts involved, the
only way to do this is to swipe to the keypad button and
activate it.
Amy


Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 13, 2016, at 6:33 AM, Don Breda <don.br...@gmail.com
<mailto:don.br...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Sieghard.

I don't have the problem at all on my iPhone 6 s but my
friend has a 7 and she does have the problem.

The problem is that the keypad disappears once the call is
connected.

It happens if she uses Siri to make the call and it also
happens if she goes in to the phone appp and selects the
keypad dials the call manually as well.

Once the call connects the keypad disappears.

She is not a good iPhoneuser yet and by the time she fines
and enables the keypad again its probably to late.

My phone does not do this at all.

Its frustrating when you need to tenter touch tones to
answer menu prompts etc.

Many people have this issue and many don't.

Apple is looking in to it but I don't think they know why
it happens for some and not others.

Thanks.

Don

On 12-Dec-16 3:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi Don and others,

Is this something a lot of people experience? I
haven't noticed any difference on my 6S Plus ever
   

Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[Davy Cuppens]

Not true, I have a friend still working on ios8.3. But the rest you argue is 
true but he is not asking for any support for that ios system.

From: Mário Gabriel 
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 6:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:






hi Pablo.

Yes apple forces us to do the update.
Sooner or later we have to do it.




Às 16:48 de 13/12/2016, Pablo Cesar Morales escreveu:

  Yes, apple force you tu update. If you have an iPhone new, and you have a 
problem and you call apple, they are no going to give you tech support if you 
don’t have installed the last IOs release. So apple decline the tech support if 
you don’t have installed the last IOs release. Apple by default download the 
IOs and fills your phone memory. Apple make your life hard with hundreds of 
announcemnts saying that the IOs x  is ready to be install.

  So, if it is no forcing, looks very similar.

   

   

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Larry Lumpkin
  Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 11:43 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

   

  No one is forcing you to install an update.  I have not done so and don’t 
plan too until the keypad issue is fixed for iphone 7.

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Pablo Cesar Morales
  Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 10:37 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

   

  Guys,

  I was like all of you. So mad with apple, with the fact that they breaks 
accessibility points that were working before and stop working. I was so mad 
because apple force you to install their IOs version, breaking the 
accessibility that we need, and we need to wait months until we are able to use 
our phone like we were doing before. Yes, I was so mad. I tried android, and I 
changed my mind. Apple is better.

  Android is several towns behind than IOs regarding accessibility.

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
regina alvarado
  Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 11:03 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

   

   

  mario, call support as Pete suggested. The more people who call the more it 
will be fixed. If not an option for you, please try Android. I have heard it is 
pretty good, though as with Apple there are some issues too. Please call Apple 
support not email, and help list traffic by helping not complaining, please.

   

  Reggie and Lex

   


  On Dec 13, 2016, at 8:06 AM, Mário Gabriel <mario@gmail.com> wrote:

  

   

  How do you know that apple is looking to it?

  Apple always looks, but never solves ...

  Is that right?

   

  cheers.

   

  Às 11:43 de 13/12/2016, Amy Ruell escreveu:

Hello all, I see the behavior on my iPhone 7 as well. As most of the 
numbers I call are in my contacts, I don't have too much difficulty. However, 
if there are prompts involved, the only way to do this is to swipe to the 
keypad button and activate it.
Amy


Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 13, 2016, at 6:33 AM, Don Breda <don.br...@gmail.com> wrote:

  Hi Sieghard.

  I don't have the problem at all on my iPhone 6 s but my friend has a 7 
and she does have the problem.

   

  The problem is that the keypad disappears once the call is connected.

   

  It happens if she uses Siri to make the call and it also happens if she 
goes in to the phone appp and selects the keypad dials the call manually as 
well.

   

  Once the call connects the keypad disappears.

   

  She is not a good iPhoneuser yet and by the time she fines and enables 
the keypad again its probably to late.

   

  My phone does not do this at all.

   

  Its frustrating when you need to tenter touch tones to answer menu 
prompts etc.

   

  Many people have this issue and many don't.

   

  Apple is looking in to it but I don't think they know why it happens for 
some and not others.

   

  Thanks.

   

  Don

   

   

   

  On 12-Dec-16 3:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi Don and others,

 

Is this something a lot of people experience? I haven't noticed any 
difference on my 6S Plus ever since I started using iOS 10, I am not using the 
current 10.2 beta so unless it's a problem here, what is exactly the issue?

When I make or receive a call I may have to tap to bring up the keypad, 
but that has always been the case at times, but most of the time the keypad is 
there and I actually have to hide it if I want access to any of the other 
buttons.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf 

Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[Mário Gabriel]

Man, why do you think I'm so mad  and furious.

I ask you the same question that you ask me.
How many times have you emailed or talked to Apple

Do you think I'm going to spend my life reporting issues and never 
seeing them resolved?

you like it?
cheers.


Às 16:57 de 13/12/2016, Mr. Ed escreveu:


Hi Mario,

You write this email complaining about Apple not fixing things. I 
would like to ask you a question. How many times have you emailed or 
talked to Apple support on issues you are having. I would be willing 
to bet you are a whiner and complainer about a lot of other things but 
you don’t try and solve any of them. If you have contacted Apple 
support many times to report issues then I apologize to you. If you 
have not reported any issues and you are so unhappy with Apple then 
why don’t you get an Android phone?


So by whining and complaining is never going to solve anything. So 
either email Apple support or call them and tell them in a nice way 
what the issue is. Otherwise what good does it do to send an email to 
this group whining and complaining. Nothing is perfect in this world.


Mr. Ed

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On 
Behalf Of *Mário Gabriel

*Sent:* Tuesday, December 13, 2016 9:02 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

Thanks friend
Someone had to say it.
It's time to revolt against the irresponsibility Apple has been having 
in recent years.

Patience also runs out.
And mine is long gone.
note:
I do not respond to fan boys' replies.

It's just my opinion and I'm entitled to it.
cheers.

Às 13:40 de 13/12/2016, Devin Prater escreveu:

Totally right, Mario.

On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 7:06 AM Mário Gabriel <mario@gmail.com
<mailto:mario@gmail.com>> wrote:

How do you know that apple is looking to it?

Apple always looks, but never solves ...

Is that right?

cheers.

Às 11:43 de 13/12/2016, Amy Ruell escreveu:

Hello all, I see the behavior on my iPhone 7 as well. As
most of the numbers I call are in my contacts, I don't
have too much difficulty. However, if there are prompts
involved, the only way to do this is to swipe to the
keypad button and activate it.
Amy


Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 13, 2016, at 6:33 AM, Don Breda
<don.br...@gmail.com <mailto:don.br...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Sieghard.

I don't have the problem at all on my iPhone 6 s but
my friend has a 7 and she does have the problem.

The problem is that the keypad disappears once the
call is connected.

It happens if she uses Siri to make the call and it
also happens if she goes in to the phone appp and
selects the keypad dials the call manually as well.

Once the call connects the keypad disappears.

She is not a good iPhoneuser yet and by the time she
fines and enables the keypad again its probably to late.

My phone does not do this at all.

Its frustrating when you need to tenter touch tones to
answer menu prompts etc.

Many people have this issue and many don't.

Apple is looking in to it but I don't think they know
why it happens for some and not others.

Thanks.

Don

On 12-Dec-16 3:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi Don and others,

Is this something a lot of people experience? I
haven't noticed any difference on my 6S Plus ever
since I started using iOS 10, I am not using the
current 10.2 beta so unless it's a problem here,
what is exactly the issue?

When I make or receive a call I may have to tap to
bring up the keypad, but that has always been the
case at times, but most of the time the keypad is
there and I actually have to hide it if I want
access to any of the other buttons.

Regards,

Sieghard

**

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of
*Don Breda
*Sent:* Monday, December 12, 2016 12:49 PM
*To:* VIPhone google group
<viphone@googlegroups.com>
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
        *Subject:* IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

I supposeits to soon to tell but I am 

Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[Mário Gabriel]

hi Pablo.

Yes apple forces us to do the update.
Sooner or later we have to do it.


Às 16:48 de 13/12/2016, Pablo Cesar Morales escreveu:


Yes, apple force you tu update. If you have an iPhone new, and you 
have a problem and you call apple, they are no going to give you tech 
support if you don’t have installed the last IOs release. So apple 
decline the tech support if you don’t have installed the last IOs 
release. Apple by default download the IOs and fills your phone 
memory. Apple make your life hard with hundreds of announcemnts saying 
that the IOs x  is ready to be install.


So, if it is no forcing, looks very similar.

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On 
Behalf Of *Larry Lumpkin

*Sent:* Tuesday, December 13, 2016 11:43 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* RE: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

No one is forcing you to install an update.  I have not done so and 
don’t plan too until the keypad issue is fixed for iphone 7.


*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Pablo Cesar Morales

*Sent:* Tuesday, December 13, 2016 10:37 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Subject:* RE: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

Guys,

I was like all of you. So mad with apple, with the fact that they 
breaks accessibility points that were working before and stop working. 
I was so mad because apple force you to install their IOs version, 
breaking the accessibility that we need, and we need to wait months 
until we are able to use our phone like we were doing before. Yes, I 
was so mad. I tried android, and I changed my mind. Apple is better.


Android is several towns behind than IOs regarding accessibility.

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *regina alvarado

*Sent:* Tuesday, December 13, 2016 11:03 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Subject:* Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

mario, call support as Pete suggested. The more people who call the 
more it will be fixed. If not an option for you, please try Android. I 
have heard it is pretty good, though as with Apple there are some 
issues too. Please call Apple support not email, and help list traffic 
by helping not complaining, please.


Reggie and Lex


On Dec 13, 2016, at 8:06 AM, Mário Gabriel <mario@gmail.com 
<mailto:mario@gmail.com>> wrote:


How do you know that apple is looking to it?

Apple always looks, but never solves ...

Is that right?

cheers.

Às 11:43 de 13/12/2016, Amy Ruell escreveu:

Hello all, I see the behavior on my iPhone 7 as well. As most of
the numbers I call are in my contacts, I don't have too much
difficulty. However, if there are prompts involved, the only way
to do this is to swipe to the keypad button and activate it.
Amy


Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 13, 2016, at 6:33 AM, Don Breda <don.br...@gmail.com
<mailto:don.br...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Sieghard.

I don't have the problem at all on my iPhone 6 s but my friend
has a 7 and she does have the problem.

The problem is that the keypad disappears once the call is
connected.

It happens if she uses Siri to make the call and it also
happens if she goes in to the phone appp and selects the
keypad dials the call manually as well.

Once the call connects the keypad disappears.

She is not a good iPhoneuser yet and by the time she fines and
enables the keypad again its probably to late.

My phone does not do this at all.

Its frustrating when you need to tenter touch tones to answer
menu prompts etc.

Many people have this issue and many don't.

Apple is looking in to it but I don't think they know why it
happens for some and not others.

Thanks.

Don

On 12-Dec-16 3:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi Don and others,

Is this something a lot of people experience? I haven't
noticed any difference on my 6S Plus ever since I started
using iOS 10, I am not using the current 10.2 beta so
unless it's a problem here, what is exactly the issue?

When I make or receive a call I may have to tap to bring
up the keypad, but that has always been the case at times,
but most of the time the keypad is there and I actually
have to hide it if I want access to any of the other buttons.

Regards,

Sieghard

**

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Don Breda
*Sent:* Monday, December 12, 2016 12:49 PM
  

RE: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[Mr. Ed]

Hi Mario,

You write this email complaining about Apple not fixing things. I would like to 
ask you a question. How many times have you emailed or talked to Apple support 
on issues you are having. I would be willing to bet you are a whiner and 
complainer about a lot of other things but you don’t try and solve any of them. 
If you have contacted Apple support many times to report issues then I 
apologize to you. If you have not reported any issues and you are so unhappy 
with Apple then why don’t you get an Android phone?  

So by whining and complaining is never going to solve anything. So either email 
Apple support or call them and tell them in a nice way what the issue is. 
Otherwise what good does it do to send an email to this group whining and 
complaining. Nothing is perfect in this world.

 

Mr. Ed

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mário Gabriel
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 9:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

 



 

Thanks friend
Someone had to say it.
It's time to revolt against the irresponsibility Apple has been having in 
recent years.
Patience also runs out.
And mine is long gone.
note:
I do not respond to fan boys' replies.

It's just my opinion and I'm entitled to it.
cheers.

 

Às 13:40 de 13/12/2016, Devin Prater escreveu:

Totally right, Mario.

 

On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 7:06 AM Mário Gabriel <mario@gmail.com> wrote:



 

How do you know that apple is looking to it?

Apple always looks, but never solves ...

Is that right?

 

cheers.

 

Às 11:43 de 13/12/2016, Amy Ruell escreveu:

Hello all, I see the behavior on my iPhone 7 as well. As most of the numbers I 
call are in my contacts, I don't have too much difficulty. However, if there 
are prompts involved, the only way to do this is to swipe to the keypad button 
and activate it.
Amy


Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 13, 2016, at 6:33 AM, Don Breda <don.br...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Sieghard.

I don't have the problem at all on my iPhone 6 s but my friend has a 7 and she 
does have the problem.

 

The problem is that the keypad disappears once the call is connected.

 

It happens if she uses Siri to make the call and it also happens if she goes in 
to the phone appp and selects the keypad dials the call manually as well.

 

Once the call connects the keypad disappears.

 

She is not a good iPhoneuser yet and by the time she fines and enables the 
keypad again its probably to late.

 

My phone does not do this at all.

 

Its frustrating when you need to tenter touch tones to answer menu prompts etc.

 

Many people have this issue and many don't.

 

Apple is looking in to it but I don't think they know why it happens for some 
and not others.

 

Thanks.

 

Don

 

 

 

On 12-Dec-16 3:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi Don and others,

 

Is this something a lot of people experience? I haven't noticed any difference 
on my 6S Plus ever since I started using iOS 10, I am not using the current 
10.2 beta so unless it's a problem here, what is exactly the issue?

When I make or receive a call I may have to tap to bring up the keypad, but 
that has always been the case at times, but most of the time the keypad is 
there and I actually have to hide it if I want access to any of the other 
buttons.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Don Breda
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 12:49 PM
To: VIPhone google group  <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

 

I supposeits to soon to tell but I am wondering if the issue where the keypad 
disappears on a phone call when it shouldn't has been resolved?

 

This is an issue appple is aware of but I suspect they haven't nailed it down 
yet so not getting my hopes up.

 

Don

 

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Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[Mário Gabriel]

Hi Richard.
you wrote:
So, apparently Mario, you discount all the great accessibility Apple has 
put into the iDevices because a few things do not work correctly?


of course not.
Just because it does not solve them as it should.

Do you like to stay without using your phone with the satisfaction that 
you should have like the normovisual people?

Do you like spending months and years  with the same issues on your phone?
Do you like to report issues to apple and then do not see them fixed?
Please tell me what you like more because I have nothing else to tell you.
cheers.


Às 16:33 de 13/12/2016, Richard Turner escreveu:


So, apparently Mario, you discount all the great accessibility Apple 
has put into the iDevices because a few things don't work correctly?
If I took that approach to everything, I would still be using a manual 
typewriter and braille writer and only sending letters through the 
standard mail.
I continually give Apple feedback on things that need fixing or 
improving, but I also thank them for all the great stuff they have done.
You are welcome to your opinion, but don't act like if someone has a 
different opinion they are stupid or not doing their part.




“By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
- Satsuki Shibuya
(Sent from my iPhone 5S)

On Dec 13, 2016, at 8:26 AM, Mário Gabriel <mario@gmail.com 
<mailto:mario@gmail.com>> wrote:





don't   be fullish.
What do you think I've been doing?
What do you think we've all done?
Do you think we were rewarded for it?
And you, have done your part?
come on girl, open your eyes.
cheers.


Às 16:03 de 13/12/2016, regina alvarado escreveu:


mario, call support as Pete suggested. The more people who call the 
more it will be fixed. If not an option for you, please try Android. 
I have heard it is pretty good, though as with Apple there are some 
issues too. Please call Apple support not email, and help list 
traffic by helping not complaining, please.



Reggie and Lex


On Dec 13, 2016, at 8:06 AM, Mário Gabriel <mario@gmail.com 
<mailto:mario@gmail.com>> wrote:




How do you know that apple is looking to it?

Apple always looks, but never solves ...

Is that right?


cheers.


Às 11:43 de 13/12/2016, Amy Ruell escreveu:
Hello all, I see the behavior on my iPhone 7 as well. As most of 
the numbers I call are in my contacts, I don't have too much 
difficulty. However, if there are prompts involved, the only way to 
do this is to swipe to the keypad button and activate it.

Amy


Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 13, 2016, at 6:33 AM, Don Breda <don.br...@gmail.com 
<mailto:don.br...@gmail.com>> wrote:



Hi Sieghard.

I don't have the problem at all on my iPhone 6 s but my friend has 
a 7 and she does have the problem.



The problem is that the keypad disappears once the call is connected.


It happens if she uses Siri to make the call and it also happens 
if she goes in to the phone appp and selects the keypad dials the 
call manually as well.



Once the call connects the keypad disappears.


She is not a good iPhoneuser yet and by the time she fines and 
enables the keypad again its probably to late.



My phone does not do this at all.


Its frustrating when you need to tenter touch tones to answer menu 
prompts etc.



Many people have this issue and many don't.


Apple is looking in to it but I don't think they know why it 
happens for some and not others.



Thanks.


Don




On 12-Dec-16 3:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:


Hi Don and others,

Is this something a lot of people experience? I haven't noticed 
any difference on my 6S Plus ever since I started using iOS 10, I 
am not using the current 10.2 beta so unless it's a problem here, 
what is exactly the issue?


When I make or receive a call I may have to tap to bring up the 
keypad, but that has always been the case at times, but most of 
the time the keypad is there and I actually have to hide it if I 
want access to any of the other buttons.


Regards,

Sieghard

**

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
*On Behalf Of *Don Breda

*Sent:* Monday, December 12, 2016 12:49 PM
*To:* VIPhone google group <viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Subject:* IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

I supposeits to soon to tell but I am wondering if the issue 
where the keypad disappears on a phone call when it shouldn't has 
been resolved?


This is an issue appple is aware of but I suspect they haven't 
nailed it down yet so not getting my hopes up.


Don

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RE: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[Pablo Cesar Morales]

Yes, it is true.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Davy Cuppens
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 11:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

 

Guys 

 

Keep please in mind that the IOS platform is the most accessible in the world 
for visually impaired people. Android and windows phone systems are lagging far 
far behind. They are moving up towards Apple but at a very slow rate. 

 

Indeed, you are right that we must keep on emphasising Apple to do morre but 
each platform could do more. My own private bank has been accessible for years 
now till last week their app became really 100% useless you cannot even login 
anymore.

The most accessible ios I have ever seen was ios7.1.2 I wish I could revert to 
that one! grin Regards 

Regards 

 

Davy 

 

From: Mário Gabriel <mailto:mario@gmail.com>  

Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 4:02 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

 



 

Thanks friend
Someone had to say it.
It's time to revolt against the irresponsibility Apple has been having in 
recent years.
Patience also runs out.
And mine is long gone.
note:
I do not respond to fan boys' replies.

It's just my opinion and I'm entitled to it.
cheers.

 

Às 13:40 de 13/12/2016, Devin Prater escreveu:

Totally right, Mario.

 

On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 7:06 AM Mário Gabriel <mario@gmail.com 
<mailto:mario@gmail.com> > wrote:



 

How do you know that apple is looking to it?

Apple always looks, but never solves ...

Is that right?

 

cheers.

 

Às 11:43 de 13/12/2016, Amy Ruell escreveu:

Hello all, I see the behavior on my iPhone 7 as well. As most of the numbers I 
call are in my contacts, I don't have too much difficulty. However, if there 
are prompts involved, the only way to do this is to swipe to the keypad button 
and activate it.
Amy


Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 13, 2016, at 6:33 AM, Don Breda <don.br...@gmail.com 
<mailto:don.br...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi Sieghard.

I don't have the problem at all on my iPhone 6 s but my friend has a 7 and she 
does have the problem.

 

The problem is that the keypad disappears once the call is connected.

 

It happens if she uses Siri to make the call and it also happens if she goes in 
to the phone appp and selects the keypad dials the call manually as well.

 

Once the call connects the keypad disappears.

 

She is not a good iPhoneuser yet and by the time she fines and enables the 
keypad again its probably to late.

 

My phone does not do this at all.

 

Its frustrating when you need to tenter touch tones to answer menu prompts etc.

 

Many people have this issue and many don't.

 

Apple is looking in to it but I don't think they know why it happens for some 
and not others.

 

Thanks.

 

Don

 

 

 

On 12-Dec-16 3:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi Don and others,

 

Is this something a lot of people experience? I haven't noticed any difference 
on my 6S Plus ever since I started using iOS 10, I am not using the current 
10.2 beta so unless it's a problem here, what is exactly the issue?

When I make or receive a call I may have to tap to bring up the keypad, but 
that has always been the case at times, but most of the time the keypad is 
there and I actually have to hide it if I want access to any of the other 
buttons.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Don Breda
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 12:49 PM
To: VIPhone google group mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

 

I supposeits to soon to tell but I am wondering if the issue where the keypad 
disappears on a phone call when it shouldn't has been resolved?

 

This is an issue appple is aware of but I suspect they haven't nailed it down 
yet so not getting my hopes up.

 

Don

 

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Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[Davy Cuppens]

Guys 

Keep please in mind that the IOS platform is the most accessible in the world 
for visually impaired people. Android and windows phone systems are lagging far 
far behind. They are moving up towards Apple but at a very slow rate. 

Indeed, you are right that we must keep on emphasising Apple to do morre but 
each platform could do more. My own private bank has been accessible for years 
now till last week their app became really 100% useless you cannot even login 
anymore.
The most accessible ios I have ever seen was ios7.1.2 I wish I could revert to 
that one! grin Regards 
Regards 

Davy 

From: Mário Gabriel 
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 4:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:






Thanks friend
Someone had to say it.
It's time to revolt against the irresponsibility Apple has been having in 
recent years.
Patience also runs out.
And mine is long gone.
note:
I do not respond to fan boys' replies.

It's just my opinion and I'm entitled to it.
cheers.




Às 13:40 de 13/12/2016, Devin Prater escreveu:

  Totally right, Mario.


  On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 7:06 AM Mário Gabriel <mario@gmail.com> wrote:






How do you know that apple is looking to it?

Apple always looks, but never solves ...

Is that right?




cheers.



Às 11:43 de 13/12/2016, Amy Ruell escreveu:

  Hello all, I see the behavior on my iPhone 7 as well. As most of the 
numbers I call are in my contacts, I don't have too much difficulty. However, 
if there are prompts involved, the only way to do this is to swipe to the 
keypad button and activate it.
  Amy



  Sent from my iPhone

  On Dec 13, 2016, at 6:33 AM, Don Breda <don.br...@gmail.com> wrote:


Hi Sieghard.

I don't have the problem at all on my iPhone 6 s but my friend has a 7 
and she does have the problem.



The problem is that the keypad disappears once the call is connected.



It happens if she uses Siri to make the call and it also happens if she 
goes in to the phone appp and selects the keypad dials the call manually as 
well.



Once the call connects the keypad disappears.



She is not a good iPhoneuser yet and by the time she fines and enables 
the keypad again its probably to late.



My phone does not do this at all.



Its frustrating when you need to tenter touch tones to answer menu 
prompts etc.



Many people have this issue and many don't.



Apple is looking in to it but I don't think they know why it happens 
for some and not others.



Thanks.



Don







On 12-Dec-16 3:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

  Hi Don and others,



  Is this something a lot of people experience? I haven't noticed any 
difference on my 6S Plus ever since I started using iOS 10, I am not using the 
current 10.2 beta so unless it's a problem here, what is exactly the issue?

  When I make or receive a call I may have to tap to bring up the 
keypad, but that has always been the case at times, but most of the time the 
keypad is there and I actually have to hide it if I want access to any of the 
other buttons.



  Regards,

  Sieghard



  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Don Breda
  Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 12:49 PM
  To: VIPhone google group mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
      Subject: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:



  I supposeits to soon to tell but I am wondering if the issue where 
the keypad disappears on a phone call when it shouldn't has been resolved?



  This is an issue appple is aware of but I suspect they haven't nailed 
it down yet so not getting my hopes up.



  Don



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Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[alia robinson]

does he  know what it means to pick up a device off shelf and use it? I assume 
he doesn’t with that attitude. I remember paying $5,000 much of it out of my 
own pocket for a computer I could use in college! they could discontinue vo 
altogether. many people have asked them to. 

an example on my mac in email it was constantly routing me out of messages 
announcing ‘one row added’ or how ever many mails came in. I reported it, and 
guess what? it was fixed. there is now a box to turn it off. 
> On Dec 13, 2016, at 11:33 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> So, apparently Mario, you discount all the great accessibility Apple has put 
> into the iDevices because a few things don't work correctly?
> If I took that approach to everything, I would still be using a manual 
> typewriter and braille writer and only sending letters through the standard 
> mail.
> I continually give Apple feedback on things that need fixing or improving, 
> but I also thank them for all the great stuff they have done.
> You are welcome to your opinion, but don't act like if someone has a 
> different opinion they are stupid or not doing their part.

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RE: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[Pablo Cesar Morales]

Mario,

I understand you very well. Months ago, I was so mad. Months ago I was in the 
list so mad about the ssame issues that you are talking about. However, I tried 
android, and I learned that if IOs is no perfect, it is better than android 
regarding accessibility.

IOs is no working well, apple broke the accessibility that was working before, 
apple is affecting you because you are no able to use your device in the way 
how you should. Yes, all of these are true.

But the accessibility on android is no like the accessibility in IOs. My 
suggestion is that you get relax, and write an email with all the points how 
IOs is affecting you with this update. If they don’t heard you, they are no 
going to fix anything. Android has fixed some of the accessibility issues in 
the last 5 yeears?

No, and they have improved accessibility  very little in the last android 
updates.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mário Gabriel
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 11:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

 




don't   be fullish.
What do you think I've been doing?
What do you think we've all done?
Do you think we were rewarded for it?
And you, have done your part?
come on girl, open your eyes.
cheers.

 

Às 16:03 de 13/12/2016, regina alvarado escreveu:

 

mario, call support as Pete suggested. The more people who call the more it 
will be fixed. If not an option for you, please try Android. I have heard it is 
pretty good, though as with Apple there are some issues too. Please call Apple 
support not email, and help list traffic by helping not complaining, please.

 

Reggie and Lex 

 


On Dec 13, 2016, at 8:06 AM, Mário Gabriel <mario@gmail.com 
<mailto:mario@gmail.com> > wrote:



 

How do you know that apple is looking to it?

Apple always looks, but never solves ...

Is that right?

 

cheers.

 

Às 11:43 de 13/12/2016, Amy Ruell escreveu:

Hello all, I see the behavior on my iPhone 7 as well. As most of the numbers I 
call are in my contacts, I don't have too much difficulty. However, if there 
are prompts involved, the only way to do this is to swipe to the keypad button 
and activate it.
Amy


Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 13, 2016, at 6:33 AM, Don Breda <don.br...@gmail.com 
<mailto:don.br...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi Sieghard.

I don't have the problem at all on my iPhone 6 s but my friend has a 7 and she 
does have the problem.

 

The problem is that the keypad disappears once the call is connected.

 

It happens if she uses Siri to make the call and it also happens if she goes in 
to the phone appp and selects the keypad dials the call manually as well.

 

Once the call connects the keypad disappears.

 

She is not a good iPhoneuser yet and by the time she fines and enables the 
keypad again its probably to late.

 

My phone does not do this at all.

 

Its frustrating when you need to tenter touch tones to answer menu prompts etc.

 

Many people have this issue and many don't.

 

Apple is looking in to it but I don't think they know why it happens for some 
and not others.

 

Thanks.

 

Don

 

 

 

On 12-Dec-16 3:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi Don and others,

 

Is this something a lot of people experience? I haven't noticed any difference 
on my 6S Plus ever since I started using iOS 10, I am not using the current 
10.2 beta so unless it's a problem here, what is exactly the issue?

When I make or receive a call I may have to tap to bring up the keypad, but 
that has always been the case at times, but most of the time the keypad is 
there and I actually have to hide it if I want access to any of the other 
buttons.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Don Breda
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 12:49 PM
To: VIPhone google group  <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

 

I supposeits to soon to tell but I am wondering if the issue where the keypad 
disappears on a phone call when it shouldn't has been resolved?

 

This is an issue appple is aware of but I suspect they haven't nailed it down 
yet so not getting my hopes up.

 

Don

 

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RE: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[Larry Lumpkin]

No one is forcing you to install an update.  I have not done so and don’t plan 
too until the keypad issue is fixed for iphone 7.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Pablo Cesar Morales
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 10:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

 

Guys,

I was like all of you. So mad with apple, with the fact that they breaks 
accessibility points that were working before and stop working. I was so mad 
because apple force you to install their IOs version, breaking the 
accessibility that we need, and we need to wait months until we are able to use 
our phone like we were doing before. Yes, I was so mad. I tried android, and I 
changed my mind. Apple is better.

Android is several towns behind than IOs regarding accessibility.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of regina alvarado
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 11:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

 

 

mario, call support as Pete suggested. The more people who call the more it 
will be fixed. If not an option for you, please try Android. I have heard it is 
pretty good, though as with Apple there are some issues too. Please call Apple 
support not email, and help list traffic by helping not complaining, please.

 

Reggie and Lex

 


On Dec 13, 2016, at 8:06 AM, Mário Gabriel <mario@gmail.com 
<mailto:mario@gmail.com> > wrote:



 

How do you know that apple is looking to it?

Apple always looks, but never solves ...

Is that right?

 

cheers.

 

Às 11:43 de 13/12/2016, Amy Ruell escreveu:

Hello all, I see the behavior on my iPhone 7 as well. As most of the numbers I 
call are in my contacts, I don't have too much difficulty. However, if there 
are prompts involved, the only way to do this is to swipe to the keypad button 
and activate it.
Amy


Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 13, 2016, at 6:33 AM, Don Breda <don.br...@gmail.com 
<mailto:don.br...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi Sieghard.

I don't have the problem at all on my iPhone 6 s but my friend has a 7 and she 
does have the problem.

 

The problem is that the keypad disappears once the call is connected.

 

It happens if she uses Siri to make the call and it also happens if she goes in 
to the phone appp and selects the keypad dials the call manually as well.

 

Once the call connects the keypad disappears.

 

She is not a good iPhoneuser yet and by the time she fines and enables the 
keypad again its probably to late.

 

My phone does not do this at all.

 

Its frustrating when you need to tenter touch tones to answer menu prompts etc.

 

Many people have this issue and many don't.

 

Apple is looking in to it but I don't think they know why it happens for some 
and not others.

 

Thanks.

 

Don

 

 

 

On 12-Dec-16 3:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi Don and others,

 

Is this something a lot of people experience? I haven't noticed any difference 
on my 6S Plus ever since I started using iOS 10, I am not using the current 
10.2 beta so unless it's a problem here, what is exactly the issue?

When I make or receive a call I may have to tap to bring up the keypad, but 
that has always been the case at times, but most of the time the keypad is 
there and I actually have to hide it if I want access to any of the other 
buttons.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Don Breda
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 12:49 PM
To: VIPhone google group  <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

 

I supposeits to soon to tell but I am wondering if the issue where the keypad 
disappears on a phone call when it shouldn't has been resolved?

 

This is an issue appple is aware of but I suspect they haven't nailed it down 
yet so not getting my hopes up.

 

Don

 

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Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[alia robinson]

no need to be rude, you don’t like apple, fine move on to something you do 
like. everyone is entitled to their opinions. I for one am happy with apple.
> On Dec 13, 2016, at 11:26 AM, Mário Gabriel  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> don't   be fullish.
> What do you think I've been doing?
> What do you think we've all done?
> Do you think we were rewarded for it?
> And you, have done your part?
> come on girl, open your eyes.

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RE: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[Pablo Cesar Morales]

Guys,

I was like all of you. So mad with apple, with the fact that they breaks 
accessibility points that were working before and stop working. I was so mad 
because apple force you to install their IOs version, breaking the 
accessibility that we need, and we need to wait months until we are able to use 
our phone like we were doing before. Yes, I was so mad. I tried android, and I 
changed my mind. Apple is better.

Android is several towns behind than IOs regarding accessibility.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
regina alvarado
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 11:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

 

 

mario, call support as Pete suggested. The more people who call the more it 
will be fixed. If not an option for you, please try Android. I have heard it is 
pretty good, though as with Apple there are some issues too. Please call Apple 
support not email, and help list traffic by helping not complaining, please.

 

Reggie and Lex

 


On Dec 13, 2016, at 8:06 AM, Mário Gabriel <mario@gmail.com 
<mailto:mario@gmail.com> > wrote:



 

How do you know that apple is looking to it?

Apple always looks, but never solves ...

Is that right?

 

cheers.

 

Às 11:43 de 13/12/2016, Amy Ruell escreveu:

Hello all, I see the behavior on my iPhone 7 as well. As most of the numbers I 
call are in my contacts, I don't have too much difficulty. However, if there 
are prompts involved, the only way to do this is to swipe to the keypad button 
and activate it.
Amy


Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 13, 2016, at 6:33 AM, Don Breda <don.br...@gmail.com 
<mailto:don.br...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi Sieghard.

I don't have the problem at all on my iPhone 6 s but my friend has a 7 and she 
does have the problem.

 

The problem is that the keypad disappears once the call is connected.

 

It happens if she uses Siri to make the call and it also happens if she goes in 
to the phone appp and selects the keypad dials the call manually as well.

 

Once the call connects the keypad disappears.

 

She is not a good iPhoneuser yet and by the time she fines and enables the 
keypad again its probably to late.

 

My phone does not do this at all.

 

Its frustrating when you need to tenter touch tones to answer menu prompts etc.

 

Many people have this issue and many don't.

 

Apple is looking in to it but I don't think they know why it happens for some 
and not others.

 

Thanks.

 

Don

 

 

 

On 12-Dec-16 3:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi Don and others,

 

Is this something a lot of people experience? I haven't noticed any difference 
on my 6S Plus ever since I started using iOS 10, I am not using the current 
10.2 beta so unless it's a problem here, what is exactly the issue?

When I make or receive a call I may have to tap to bring up the keypad, but 
that has always been the case at times, but most of the time the keypad is 
there and I actually have to hide it if I want access to any of the other 
buttons.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Don Breda
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 12:49 PM
To: VIPhone google group  <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

 

I supposeits to soon to tell but I am wondering if the issue where the keypad 
disappears on a phone call when it shouldn't has been resolved?

 

This is an issue appple is aware of but I suspect they haven't nailed it down 
yet so not getting my hopes up.

 

Don

 

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Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[Richard Turner]

So, apparently Mario, you discount all the great accessibility Apple has put 
into the iDevices because a few things don't work correctly?
If I took that approach to everything, I would still be using a manual 
typewriter and braille writer and only sending letters through the standard 
mail.
I continually give Apple feedback on things that need fixing or improving, but 
I also thank them for all the great stuff they have done.
You are welcome to your opinion, but don't act like if someone has a different 
opinion they are stupid or not doing their part.



“By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
- Satsuki Shibuya
(Sent from my iPhone 5S)

On Dec 13, 2016, at 8:26 AM, Mário Gabriel 
<mario@gmail.com<mailto:mario@gmail.com>> wrote:




don't   be fullish.
What do you think I've been doing?
What do you think we've all done?
Do you think we were rewarded for it?
And you, have done your part?
come on girl, open your eyes.
cheers.

Às 16:03 de 13/12/2016, regina alvarado escreveu:

mario, call support as Pete suggested. The more people who call the more it 
will be fixed. If not an option for you, please try Android. I have heard it is 
pretty good, though as with Apple there are some issues too. Please call Apple 
support not email, and help list traffic by helping not complaining, please.


Reggie and Lex


On Dec 13, 2016, at 8:06 AM, Mário Gabriel 
<mario@gmail.com<mailto:mario@gmail.com>> wrote:





How do you know that apple is looking to it?

Apple always looks, but never solves ...

Is that right?


cheers.

Às 11:43 de 13/12/2016, Amy Ruell escreveu:
Hello all, I see the behavior on my iPhone 7 as well. As most of the numbers I 
call are in my contacts, I don't have too much difficulty. However, if there 
are prompts involved, the only way to do this is to swipe to the keypad button 
and activate it.
Amy


Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 13, 2016, at 6:33 AM, Don Breda 
<don.br...@gmail.com<mailto:don.br...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Hi Sieghard.

I don't have the problem at all on my iPhone 6 s but my friend has a 7 and she 
does have the problem.


The problem is that the keypad disappears once the call is connected.


It happens if she uses Siri to make the call and it also happens if she goes in 
to the phone appp and selects the keypad dials the call manually as well.


Once the call connects the keypad disappears.


She is not a good iPhoneuser yet and by the time she fines and enables the 
keypad again its probably to late.


My phone does not do this at all.


Its frustrating when you need to tenter touch tones to answer menu prompts etc.


Many people have this issue and many don't.


Apple is looking in to it but I don't think they know why it happens for some 
and not others.


Thanks.


Don



On 12-Dec-16 3:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Hi Don and others,

Is this something a lot of people experience? I haven't noticed any difference 
on my 6S Plus ever since I started using iOS 10, I am not using the current 
10.2 beta so unless it's a problem here, what is exactly the issue?
When I make or receive a call I may have to tap to bring up the keypad, but 
that has always been the case at times, but most of the time the keypad is 
there and I actually have to hide it if I want access to any of the other 
buttons.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Don Breda
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 12:49 PM
To: VIPhone google group 
<viphone@googlegroups.com><mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:


I supposeits to soon to tell but I am wondering if the issue where the keypad 
disappears on a phone call when it shouldn't has been resolved?



This is an issue appple is aware of but I suspect they haven't nailed it down 
yet so not getting my hopes up.



Don


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Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[Mário Gabriel]

don't   be fullish.
What do you think I've been doing?
What do you think we've all done?
Do you think we were rewarded for it?
And you, have done your part?
come on girl, open your eyes.
cheers.


Às 16:03 de 13/12/2016, regina alvarado escreveu:


mario, call support as Pete suggested. The more people who call the 
more it will be fixed. If not an option for you, please try Android. I 
have heard it is pretty good, though as with Apple there are some 
issues too. Please call Apple support not email, and help list traffic 
by helping not complaining, please.



Reggie and Lex


On Dec 13, 2016, at 8:06 AM, Mário Gabriel <mario@gmail.com 
<mailto:mario@gmail.com>> wrote:




How do you know that apple is looking to it?

Apple always looks, but never solves ...

Is that right?


cheers.


Às 11:43 de 13/12/2016, Amy Ruell escreveu:
Hello all, I see the behavior on my iPhone 7 as well. As most of the 
numbers I call are in my contacts, I don't have too much difficulty. 
However, if there are prompts involved, the only way to do this is to 
swipe to the keypad button and activate it.

Amy


Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 13, 2016, at 6:33 AM, Don Breda <don.br...@gmail.com 
<mailto:don.br...@gmail.com>> wrote:



Hi Sieghard.

I don't have the problem at all on my iPhone 6 s but my friend has a 
7 and she does have the problem.



The problem is that the keypad disappears once the call is connected.


It happens if she uses Siri to make the call and it also happens if 
she goes in to the phone appp and selects the keypad dials the call 
manually as well.



Once the call connects the keypad disappears.


She is not a good iPhoneuser yet and by the time she fines and 
enables the keypad again its probably to late.



My phone does not do this at all.


Its frustrating when you need to tenter touch tones to answer menu 
prompts etc.



Many people have this issue and many don't.


Apple is looking in to it but I don't think they know why it happens 
for some and not others.



Thanks.


Don




On 12-Dec-16 3:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:


Hi Don and others,

Is this something a lot of people experience? I haven't noticed any 
difference on my 6S Plus ever since I started using iOS 10, I am 
not using the current 10.2 beta so unless it's a problem here, what 
is exactly the issue?


When I make or receive a call I may have to tap to bring up the 
keypad, but that has always been the case at times, but most of the 
time the keypad is there and I actually have to hide it if I want 
access to any of the other buttons.


Regards,

Sieghard

**

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
*On Behalf Of *Don Breda

*Sent:* Monday, December 12, 2016 12:49 PM
*To:* VIPhone google group <viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Subject:* IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

I supposeits to soon to tell but I am wondering if the issue where 
the keypad disappears on a phone call when it shouldn't has been 
resolved?


This is an issue appple is aware of but I suspect they haven't 
nailed it down yet so not getting my hopes up.


Don

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Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[regina alvarado]

Amy, if anywhere in phone can you touch keypad and have it come up after 
dialing? If in keypad and making a call does it still disappear? What about 
dialing from a link? I am contacting support also as I have the loud VO on 
calls too, but I have not made a call with prompts yet, thus the questioning. 
Thanks.
On Dec 13, 2016, at 6:43 AM, Amy Ruell <aru...@comcast.net> wrote:

Hello all, I see the behavior on my iPhone 7 as well. As most of the numbers I 
call are in my contacts, I don't have too much difficulty. However, if there 
are prompts involved, the only way to do this is to swipe to the keypad button 
and activate it.
Amy


Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 13, 2016, at 6:33 AM, Don Breda <don.br...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Sieghard.
> 
> I don't have the problem at all on my iPhone 6 s but my friend has a 7 and 
> she does have the problem.
> 
> 
> The problem is that the keypad disappears once the call is connected.
> 
> 
> It happens if she uses Siri to make the call and it also happens if she goes 
> in to the phone appp and selects the keypad dials the call manually as well.
> 
> 
> Once the call connects the keypad disappears.
> 
> 
> She is not a good iPhoneuser yet and by the time she fines and enables the 
> keypad again its probably to late.
> 
> 
> My phone does not do this at all.
> 
> 
> Its frustrating when you need to tenter touch tones to answer menu prompts 
> etc.
> 
> 
> Many people have this issue and many don't.
> 
> 
> Apple is looking in to it but I don't think they know why it happens for some 
> and not others.
> 
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> Don
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 12-Dec-16 3:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>> Hi Don and others,
>>  
>> Is this something a lot of people experience? I haven't noticed any 
>> difference on my 6S Plus ever since I started using iOS 10, I am not using 
>> the current 10.2 beta so unless it's a problem here, what is exactly the 
>> issue?
>> When I make or receive a call I may have to tap to bring up the keypad, but 
>> that has always been the case at times, but most of the time the keypad is 
>> there and I actually have to hide it if I want access to any of the other 
>> buttons.
>>  
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Don Breda
>> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 12:49 PM
>> To: VIPhone google group <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
>>  
>> I supposeits to soon to tell but I am wondering if the issue where the 
>> keypad disappears on a phone call when it shouldn't has been resolved?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> This is an issue appple is aware of but I suspect they haven't nailed it 
>> down yet so not getting my hopes up.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Don
>> 
>>  
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Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[regina alvarado]

mario, call support as Pete suggested. The more people who call the more it 
will be fixed. If not an option for you, please try Android. I have heard it is 
pretty good, though as with Apple there are some issues too. Please call Apple 
support not email, and help list traffic by helping not complaining, please.


Reggie and Lex


On Dec 13, 2016, at 8:06 AM, Mário Gabriel <mario@gmail.com> wrote:



How do you know that apple is looking to it?

Apple always looks, but never solves ...

Is that right?

cheers.

Às 11:43 de 13/12/2016, Amy Ruell escreveu:
> Hello all, I see the behavior on my iPhone 7 as well. As most of the numbers 
> I call are in my contacts, I don't have too much difficulty. However, if 
> there are prompts involved, the only way to do this is to swipe to the keypad 
> button and activate it.
> Amy
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Dec 13, 2016, at 6:33 AM, Don Breda <don.br...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Sieghard.
>> 
>> I don't have the problem at all on my iPhone 6 s but my friend has a 7 and 
>> she does have the problem.
>> 
>> 
>> The problem is that the keypad disappears once the call is connected.
>> 
>> 
>> It happens if she uses Siri to make the call and it also happens if she goes 
>> in to the phone appp and selects the keypad dials the call manually as well.
>> 
>> 
>> Once the call connects the keypad disappears.
>> 
>> 
>> She is not a good iPhoneuser yet and by the time she fines and enables the 
>> keypad again its probably to late.
>> 
>> 
>> My phone does not do this at all.
>> 
>> 
>> Its frustrating when you need to tenter touch tones to answer menu prompts 
>> etc.
>> 
>> 
>> Many people have this issue and many don't.
>> 
>> 
>> Apple is looking in to it but I don't think they know why it happens for 
>> some and not others.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> 
>> Don
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 12-Dec-16 3:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>>> Hi Don and others,
>>>  
>>> Is this something a lot of people experience? I haven't noticed any 
>>> difference on my 6S Plus ever since I started using iOS 10, I am not using 
>>> the current 10.2 beta so unless it's a problem here, what is exactly the 
>>> issue?
>>> When I make or receive a call I may have to tap to bring up the keypad, but 
>>> that has always been the case at times, but most of the time the keypad is 
>>> there and I actually have to hide it if I want access to any of the other 
>>> buttons.
>>>  
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Don Breda
>>> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 12:49 PM
>>> To: VIPhone google group <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
>>>  
>>> I supposeits to soon to tell but I am wondering if the issue where the 
>>> keypad disappears on a phone call when it shouldn't has been resolved?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> This is an issue appple is aware of but I suspect they haven't nailed it 
>>> down yet so not getting my hopes up.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Don
>>> 
>>>  
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Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[Mário Gabriel]

Thanks friend
Someone had to say it.
It's time to revolt against the irresponsibility Apple has been having 
in recent years.

Patience also runs out.
And mine is long gone.
note:
I do not respond to fan boys' replies.

It's just my opinion and I'm entitled to it.
cheers.


Às 13:40 de 13/12/2016, Devin Prater escreveu:

Totally right, Mario.

On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 7:06 AM Mário Gabriel <mario@gmail.com 
<mailto:mario@gmail.com>> wrote:




How do you know that apple is looking to it?

Apple always looks, but never solves ...

Is that right?


cheers.


Às 11:43 de 13/12/2016, Amy Ruell escreveu:

Hello all, I see the behavior on my iPhone 7 as well. As most of
the numbers I call are in my contacts, I don't have too much
difficulty. However, if there are prompts involved, the only way
to do this is to swipe to the keypad button and activate it.
Amy


Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 13, 2016, at 6:33 AM, Don Breda <don.br...@gmail.com
<mailto:don.br...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Hi Sieghard.

I don't have the problem at all on my iPhone 6 s but my friend
has a 7 and she does have the problem.


The problem is that the keypad disappears once the call is
connected.


It happens if she uses Siri to make the call and it also happens
if she goes in to the phone appp and selects the keypad dials
the call manually as well.


Once the call connects the keypad disappears.


She is not a good iPhoneuser yet and by the time she fines and
enables the keypad again its probably to late.


My phone does not do this at all.


Its frustrating when you need to tenter touch tones to answer
menu prompts etc.


Many people have this issue and many don't.


Apple is looking in to it but I don't think they know why it
happens for some and not others.


Thanks.


Don




On 12-Dec-16 3:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:


Hi Don and others,

Is this something a lot of people experience? I haven't noticed
any difference on my 6S Plus ever since I started using iOS 10,
I am not using the current 10.2 beta so unless it's a problem
here, what is exactly the issue?

When I make or receive a call I may have to tap to bring up the
keypad, but that has always been the case at times, but most of
the time the keypad is there and I actually have to hide it if
I want access to any of the other buttons.

Regards,

Sieghard

**

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Don Breda
*Sent:* Monday, December 12, 2016 12:49 PM
*To:* VIPhone google group <viphone@googlegroups.com>
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Subject:* IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

I supposeits to soon to tell but I am wondering if the issue
where the keypad disappears on a phone call when it shouldn't
has been resolved?

This is an issue appple is aware of but I suspect they haven't
nailed it down yet so not getting my hopes up.

Don

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Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[Pete Nalda]

I have a suggestion to make, and for those who feel that there are issues not 
being fixed. My suggestion is to call instead of emailing, then you get to talk 
to somebody in person about the issues that you're having.  Might do some good. 
This is what I did for the large text issue that got fixed with the newest 
update. Be nice when you call, as it can go a long way. 

Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
Louie P (Pete) Nalda
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Twitter: @lpnalda

> On Dec 13, 2016, at 7:06 AM, Mário Gabriel <mario@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> How do you know that apple is looking to it?
> 
> Apple always looks, but never solves ...
> 
> Is that right?
> 
> cheers.
> 
> Às 11:43 de 13/12/2016, Amy Ruell escreveu:
>> Hello all, I see the behavior on my iPhone 7 as well. As most of the numbers 
>> I call are in my contacts, I don't have too much difficulty. However, if 
>> there are prompts involved, the only way to do this is to swipe to the 
>> keypad button and activate it.
>> Amy
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Dec 13, 2016, at 6:33 AM, Don Breda <don.br...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Sieghard.
>>> 
>>> I don't have the problem at all on my iPhone 6 s but my friend has a 7 and 
>>> she does have the problem.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The problem is that the keypad disappears once the call is connected.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> It happens if she uses Siri to make the call and it also happens if she 
>>> goes in to the phone appp and selects the keypad dials the call manually as 
>>> well.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Once the call connects the keypad disappears.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> She is not a good iPhoneuser yet and by the time she fines and enables the 
>>> keypad again its probably to late.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> My phone does not do this at all.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Its frustrating when you need to tenter touch tones to answer menu prompts 
>>> etc.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Many people have this issue and many don't.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Apple is looking in to it but I don't think they know why it happens for 
>>> some and not others.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Don
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 12-Dec-16 3:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>>>> Hi Don and others,
>>>>  
>>>> Is this something a lot of people experience? I haven't noticed any 
>>>> difference on my 6S Plus ever since I started using iOS 10, I am not using 
>>>> the current 10.2 beta so unless it's a problem here, what is exactly the 
>>>> issue?
>>>> When I make or receive a call I may have to tap to bring up the keypad, 
>>>> but that has always been the case at times, but most of the time the 
>>>> keypad is there and I actually have to hide it if I want access to any of 
>>>> the other buttons.
>>>>  
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Sieghard
>>>>  
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>>> Of Don Breda
>>>> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 12:49 PM
>>>> To: VIPhone google group <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Subject: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
>>>>  
>>>> I supposeits to soon to tell but I am wondering if the issue where the 
>>>> keypad disappears on a phone call when it shouldn't has been resolved?
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> This is an issue appple is aware of but I suspect they haven't nailed it 
>>>> down yet so not getting my hopes up.
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Don
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
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Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[Devin Prater]

Totally right, Mario.

On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 7:06 AM Mário Gabriel <mario@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
>
> How do you know that apple is looking to it?
>
> Apple always looks, but never solves ...
>
> Is that right?
>
>
> cheers.
>
> Às 11:43 de 13/12/2016, Amy Ruell escreveu:
>
> Hello all, I see the behavior on my iPhone 7 as well. As most of the
> numbers I call are in my contacts, I don't have too much difficulty.
> However, if there are prompts involved, the only way to do this is to swipe
> to the keypad button and activate it.
> Amy
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 13, 2016, at 6:33 AM, Don Breda <don.br...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Sieghard.
>
> I don't have the problem at all on my iPhone 6 s but my friend has a 7 and
> she does have the problem.
>
>
> The problem is that the keypad disappears once the call is connected.
>
>
> It happens if she uses Siri to make the call and it also happens if she
> goes in to the phone appp and selects the keypad dials the call manually as
> well.
>
>
> Once the call connects the keypad disappears.
>
>
> She is not a good iPhoneuser yet and by the time she fines and enables the
> keypad again its probably to late.
>
>
> My phone does not do this at all.
>
>
> Its frustrating when you need to tenter touch tones to answer menu prompts
> etc.
>
>
> Many people have this issue and many don't.
>
>
> Apple is looking in to it but I don't think they know why it happens for
> some and not others.
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> Don
>
>
>
>
> On 12-Dec-16 3:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>
> Hi Don and others,
>
>
>
> Is this something a lot of people experience? I haven't noticed any
> difference on my 6S Plus ever since I started using iOS 10, I am not using
> the current 10.2 beta so unless it's a problem here, what is exactly the
> issue?
>
> When I make or receive a call I may have to tap to bring up the keypad,
> but that has always been the case at times, but most of the time the keypad
> is there and I actually have to hide it if I want access to any of the
> other buttons.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Sieghard
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
> <viphone@googlegroups.com>] *On Behalf Of *Don Breda
> *Sent:* Monday, December 12, 2016 12:49 PM
> *To:* VIPhone google group <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> *Subject:* IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
>
>
>
> I supposeits to soon to tell but I am wondering if the issue where the
> keypad disappears on a phone call when it shouldn't has been resolved?
>
>
>
> This is an issue appple is aware of but I suspect they haven't nailed it
> down yet so not getting my hopes up.
>
>
>
> Don
>
>
>
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Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[Mário Gabriel]

How do you know that apple is looking to it?

Apple always looks, but never solves ...

Is that right?


cheers.


Às 11:43 de 13/12/2016, Amy Ruell escreveu:
Hello all, I see the behavior on my iPhone 7 as well. As most of the 
numbers I call are in my contacts, I don't have too much difficulty. 
However, if there are prompts involved, the only way to do this is to 
swipe to the keypad button and activate it.

Amy


Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 13, 2016, at 6:33 AM, Don Breda <don.br...@gmail.com 
<mailto:don.br...@gmail.com>> wrote:



Hi Sieghard.

I don't have the problem at all on my iPhone 6 s but my friend has a 
7 and she does have the problem.



The problem is that the keypad disappears once the call is connected.


It happens if she uses Siri to make the call and it also happens if 
she goes in to the phone appp and selects the keypad dials the call 
manually as well.



Once the call connects the keypad disappears.


She is not a good iPhoneuser yet and by the time she fines and 
enables the keypad again its probably to late.



My phone does not do this at all.


Its frustrating when you need to tenter touch tones to answer menu 
prompts etc.



Many people have this issue and many don't.


Apple is looking in to it but I don't think they know why it happens 
for some and not others.



Thanks.


Don




On 12-Dec-16 3:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:


Hi Don and others,

Is this something a lot of people experience? I haven't noticed any 
difference on my 6S Plus ever since I started using iOS 10, I am not 
using the current 10.2 beta so unless it's a problem here, what is 
exactly the issue?


When I make or receive a call I may have to tap to bring up the 
keypad, but that has always been the case at times, but most of the 
time the keypad is there and I actually have to hide it if I want 
access to any of the other buttons.


Regards,

Sieghard

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*On Behalf Of *Don Breda

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*Subject:* IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

I supposeits to soon to tell but I am wondering if the issue where 
the keypad disappears on a phone call when it shouldn't has been 
resolved?


This is an issue appple is aware of but I suspect they haven't 
nailed it down yet so not getting my hopes up.


Don

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Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[Amy Ruell]

Hello all, I see the behavior on my iPhone 7 as well. As most of the numbers I 
call are in my contacts, I don't have too much difficulty. However, if there 
are prompts involved, the only way to do this is to swipe to the keypad button 
and activate it.
Amy


Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 13, 2016, at 6:33 AM, Don Breda <don.br...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Sieghard.
> 
> I don't have the problem at all on my iPhone 6 s but my friend has a 7 and 
> she does have the problem.
> 
> 
> The problem is that the keypad disappears once the call is connected.
> 
> 
> It happens if she uses Siri to make the call and it also happens if she goes 
> in to the phone appp and selects the keypad dials the call manually as well.
> 
> 
> Once the call connects the keypad disappears.
> 
> 
> She is not a good iPhoneuser yet and by the time she fines and enables the 
> keypad again its probably to late.
> 
> 
> My phone does not do this at all.
> 
> 
> Its frustrating when you need to tenter touch tones to answer menu prompts 
> etc.
> 
> 
> Many people have this issue and many don't.
> 
> 
> Apple is looking in to it but I don't think they know why it happens for some 
> and not others.
> 
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> Don
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 12-Dec-16 3:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>> Hi Don and others,
>>  
>> Is this something a lot of people experience? I haven't noticed any 
>> difference on my 6S Plus ever since I started using iOS 10, I am not using 
>> the current 10.2 beta so unless it's a problem here, what is exactly the 
>> issue?
>> When I make or receive a call I may have to tap to bring up the keypad, but 
>> that has always been the case at times, but most of the time the keypad is 
>> there and I actually have to hide it if I want access to any of the other 
>> buttons.
>>  
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Don Breda
>> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 12:49 PM
>> To: VIPhone google group <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
>>  
>> I supposeits to soon to tell but I am wondering if the issue where the 
>> keypad disappears on a phone call when it shouldn't has been resolved?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> This is an issue appple is aware of but I suspect they haven't nailed it 
>> down yet so not getting my hopes up.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Don
>> 
>>  
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Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[Don Breda]

Hi Sieghard.

I don't have the problem at all on my iPhone 6 s but my friend has a 7 
and she does have the problem.



The problem is that the keypad disappears once the call is connected.


It happens if she uses Siri to make the call and it also happens if she 
goes in to the phone appp and selects the keypad dials the call manually 
as well.



Once the call connects the keypad disappears.


She is not a good iPhoneuser yet and by the time she fines and enables 
the keypad again its probably to late.



My phone does not do this at all.


Its frustrating when you need to tenter touch tones to answer menu 
prompts etc.



Many people have this issue and many don't.


Apple is looking in to it but I don't think they know why it happens for 
some and not others.



Thanks.


Don




On 12-Dec-16 3:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:


Hi Don and others,

Is this something a lot of people experience? I haven't noticed any 
difference on my 6S Plus ever since I started using iOS 10, I am not 
using the current 10.2 beta so unless it's a problem here, what is 
exactly the issue?


When I make or receive a call I may have to tap to bring up the 
keypad, but that has always been the case at times, but most of the 
time the keypad is there and I actually have to hide it if I want 
access to any of the other buttons.


Regards,

Sieghard

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*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On 
Behalf Of *Don Breda

*Sent:* Monday, December 12, 2016 12:49 PM
*To:* VIPhone google group <viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Subject:* IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

I supposeits to soon to tell but I am wondering if the issue where the 
keypad disappears on a phone call when it shouldn't has been resolved?


This is an issue appple is aware of but I suspect they haven't nailed 
it down yet so not getting my hopes up.


Don

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RE: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Don and others,

Is this something a lot of people experience? I haven't noticed any difference 
on my 6S Plus ever since I started using iOS 10, I am not using the current 
10.2 beta so unless it's a problem here, what is exactly the issue?
When I make or receive a call I may have to tap to bring up the keypad, but 
that has always been the case at times, but most of the time the keypad is 
there and I actually have to hide it if I want access to any of the other 
buttons.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Don Breda
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 12:49 PM
To: VIPhone google group <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:


I supposeits to soon to tell but I am wondering if the issue where the keypad 
disappears on a phone call when it shouldn't has been resolved?



This is an issue appple is aware of but I suspect they haven't nailed it down 
yet so not getting my hopes up.



Don


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IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[Don Breda]

I supposeits to soon to tell but I am wondering if the issue where the 
keypad disappears on a phone call when it shouldn't has been resolved?



This is an issue appple is aware of but I suspect they haven't nailed it 
down yet so not getting my hopes up.



Don


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