RE: sharing a free app for now call remote keyboard

2024-08-04 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Can you explain in more detail how this works? The app description in the App 
Store does not explain this and the URL which is given does have a few more 
details about how you can have different input modes where pressing enter sends 
the sentence you just typed or where you can type longer text and then press a 
send button to send it. From what I think I understand you have to visit a 
certain URL on your Windows PC where you can type the text and on your iPhone 
you go into whichever app, e.g. Mail or Messages, and after installing the app 
you have an option to add this just like a keyboard. In any case, a better 
explanation would be nice because for people who have keyboards capable of 
connecting to a computer and an iPhone like my Logitech K780 or my Keychron at 
work, being able to type on the phone with my keyboard is just a button press 
away or on my Keychron it's sliding a switch from the right to the left and it 
switches over to my phone in about 1 or 2 seconds and in addition to typing I 
can then use my keyboard for navigation and all that if I want. Furthermore, if 
you connect your iPhone to a Windows 11 computer using the Phone Link app, you 
can send text messages right from your computer. Granted, you can't do Mail or 
type into other apps, but between this, having a keyboard capable of connecting 
to the iPhone and computer and using email with a modern protocol like 
Microsoft Exchange or IMAP where whatever you do on one device is reflected on 
the other, I find there is not as much need for an app like this. Furthermore, 
if you are heavily into using Whatsapp, you can also have the Whatsapp Windows 
app installed on your computer and use it together with your keyboard.

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From: 'Juan' via VIPhone  
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Subject: sharing a free app for now call remote keyboard

hi everyone
wanted to share an app which is currently free at the moment.
is call remote keyboard this app would allow you to type from your computer and 
have it appear on an email or text on your iphone or wherever you'd need to 
input text.

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/remote-keyboard/id1474458879

have a great day

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sharing a free app for now call remote keyboard

2024-08-04 Thread 'Juan' via VIPhone
hi everyone
wanted to share an app which is currently free at the moment.
is call remote keyboard this app would allow you to type from your computer
and have it appear on an email or text on your iphone or wherever you'd need
to input text.

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/remote-keyboard/id1474458879

have a great day

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Re: pairing a new iClever keyboard with the iPhone

2024-07-19 Thread Lynn Schneider
Hi. I’m not sure which model of this keyboard you have, but I did once have this keyboard myself and saved some notes. Hope the following will help.Keyboard Layout*On/off switch is located on the very top right corner of the keyboard on its own - left position is off and right position is on.Top Row.Note, alternative functions may be accessed using the FN key, second from the left on the bottom row.KeyAltrenative functionEscapen/aF1brightness downF2brightness upF3homeF4App switcherF5searchF6Media previous trackF7media play/pauseF8media Skip forward trackF9volume muteF10volume downF11volume upF12minimize/maximizedeleten/aBluetooth 1Switch or pare device 1Bluetooth 2Switch or pare device 2Bluetooth 3Switch or pare device 3calculatorn/a2nd Row.`/~, 1!, 2@, 3#, 4$, 5%, 6^, 7&, 8*, 9(, 0), - _, =+, backspace, numlock (clear), /, *, -3rd Rowtab, q, w, e, r, t, y, u, i, o, p, [{, )}, |, 7, 8, 9, long + key4th Row.cap lock, a, s, d, f, g, h, j, k, l, ;:, '", enter, 4, 5, 6, long + key (shares with row above)5th rowshift, z, x, c, v, b, n, m, ,<, >., /?, shift, 1, 2, 3, long enter key6th rowcontrol, function, windows, alt, spacebar, alt, control/alt, left arrow, up & down arrows, right arrow, 0, ., long enter key (shares with row above)How to Pair iClever Bluetooth 5.1 Multi-Device KeyboardEnsure that your iClever Bluetooth keyboard is charged and powered on. You can do this by sliding the power switch to the 'ON' position.Press and hold the Bluetooth button (1, 2, or 3) that you want to pair with your device. The indicator light will start flashing, indicating that the keyboard is in pairing mode.On your device, go to the Bluetooth settings. This is usually found in the 'Settings' menu.Ensure that Bluetooth is turned on, and your device is set to 'discoverable' or 'visible' mode.Your device should detect the iClever keyboard. It may appear as 'Bluetooth Keyboard' or 'iClever' in the list of available devices.Tap on the name of the keyboard in the list. If a pairing request appears, confirm it.If prompted, enter the pairing code displayed on your device's screen using the keyboard, then press 'Enter'.Once connected, the indicator light on the keyboard will stop flashing. Your iClever keyboard is now paired with your device.Remember, you can repeat these steps for up to three devices using the three Bluetooth buttons on the keyboard. To switch between devices, simply press the corresponding Bluetooth button.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jul 18, 2024, at 1:56 PM, dlmlao...@gmail.com wrote:I’ve been looking for instructions on pairing this iClever keyboard which I bought earlier this year but haven’t used.  I can’t find an on-off switch, and one set of instructions I found online said to press fn+t to get the unit into pairing mode, but that hasn’t worked. Any help would be appreciated.  



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pairing a new iClever keyboard with the iPhone

2024-07-18 Thread dlmlaochi
I've been looking for instructions on pairing this iClever keyboard which I
bought earlier this year but haven't used.  I can't find an on-off switch,
and one set of instructions I found online said to press fn+t to get the
unit into pairing mode, but that hasn't worked. Any help would be
appreciated.
 
 

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RE: Keyboard Commands

2024-06-29 Thread Dennis Long
Yes command n creates a new message in message mail and it might even start a 
new note in notes I’m not sure.  Command Shift d will send an email. 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joe 
Orozco
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2024 6:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Keyboard Commands
 
I’m curious about keyboard shortcut keys on iOS. I read a post somewhere on 
AppleVis where the person was talking about using things like Command + N to 
send a new message on her iPad Pro using a Magic keyboard. These keyboard 
shortcut keys, are they a function of the iPad Pro, or the Magic keyboard, or 
are they commands one can use across iOS? I’m really interested in using this 
sort of functionality with my iPhone and Bluetooth keyboard, but I’ve not found 
anything outside of the standard Voiceover keyboard commands.
 
Thank you kindly for any tips,
 
Joe 
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Re: Keyboard Commands

2024-06-29 Thread Esther Levegnale
hi, everyone, I absolutely love the Apple magic keyboard. I've had one of these for many years. Take care everyone. Esther.Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!On Jun 28, 2024, at 6:47 PM, Michael Irons  wrote:I got a hold of an apple Magic Keyboard for the iPad I inherited from my deceased sister. So I guess where the function key would be on a regular keyboard it would be the globe key on the Apple Magic Keyboard? I have the iPad that happens to have the folio case on yet. I just wanted to have a Bluetooth keyboard to work with it and I ended up getting the Apple Magic Keyboard because that was the one that was being sold while I was at the time. Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 28, 2024, at 5:40 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:The keyboard commands are mostly the same no matter the iOS device.I need to find the couple unique to iPads due to the split-view things you can do with having two apps open side by side, which I thought were in the list on my web site, but I’m not finding them.If you find instructions that talk about the Globe key, as far as I can tell, that is the FN key on a regular keyboard, but Apple gave it a globe icon on their “magic” keyboards….  Richard, USA"INTROVERTS UNITE ... SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joe OrozcoSent: Friday, June 28, 2024 3:35 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Keyboard Commands I’m curious about keyboard shortcut keys on iOS. I read a post somewhere on AppleVis where the person was talking about using things like Command + N to send a new message on her iPad Pro using a Magic keyboard. These keyboard shortcut keys, are they a function of the iPad Pro, or the Magic keyboard, or are they commands one can use across iOS? I’m really interested in using this sort of functionality with my iPhone and Bluetooth keyboard, but I’ve not found anything outside of the standard Voiceover keyboard commands. Thank you kindly for any tips, Joe -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CAJNA4bn6V9SGdS%2BxG2_%3Dj5mROF2xR9RLUxK0%3DA2dgTq4ogphfA%40mail.gmail.com.



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Re: Keyboard Commands

2024-06-29 Thread Esther Levegnale
hi, everyone, I also have the Apple magic keyboard and absolutely love it. Esther.Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!On Jun 28, 2024, at 8:28 PM, Michael Irons  wrote:Hey Richard and others I have one quick thing I would like to say and that is if I got the Apple Magic Keyboard with my iPad or for my iPad it seems like all the keys on the keyboard should work with my iPad I guess if not, maybe that something I have to take up with Apple Accessibility.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 28, 2024, at 6:17 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:Michael and others,Forget what I said.The FN key is not the same as the globe key from my quick testing on my iPad.None of the commands specifically for the iPad work for me using the FN key.One source from a few years ago talked about modifying the key on a non Apple keyboard, but that setting was not where it said it would be, so I don’t know.Some commands using FN that say FN work fine.But Apple must have created a whole new Key that is unique to their keyboards.  Typical.  Richard, USA"INTROVERTS UNITE ... SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Michael IronsSent: Friday, June 28, 2024 3:48 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Keyboard Commands  I got a hold of an apple Magic Keyboard for the iPad I inherited from my deceased sister. So I guess where the function key would be on a regular keyboard it would be the globe key on the Apple Magic Keyboard? I have the iPad that happens to have the folio case on yet. I just wanted to have a Bluetooth keyboard to work with it and I ended up getting the Apple Magic Keyboard because that was the one that was being sold while I was at the time.  Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 28, 2024, at 5:40 PM, Richard Turner <richardr_tur...@comcast.net> wrote:The keyboard commands are mostly the same no matter the iOS device.I need to find the couple unique to iPads due to the split-view things you can do with having two apps open side by side, which I thought were in the list on my web site, but I’m not finding them.If you find instructions that talk about the Globe key, as far as I can tell, that is the FN key on a regular keyboard, but Apple gave it a globe icon on their “magic” keyboards….  Richard, USA"INTROVERTS UNITE ... SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Joe OrozcoSent: Friday, June 28, 2024 3:35 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Keyboard Commands I’m curious about keyboard shortcut keys on iOS. I read a post somewhere on AppleVis where the person was talking about using things like Command + N to send a new message on her iPad Pro using a Magic keyboard. These keyboard shortcut keys, are they a function of the iPad Pro, or the Magic keyboard, or are they commands one can use across iOS? I’m really interested in using this sort of functionality with my iPhone and Bluetooth keyboard, but I’ve not found anything outside of the standard Voiceover keyboard commands. Thank you kindly for any tips, Joe -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CAJNA4bn6V9SGdS%2BxG2_%3Dj5mROF2xR9RLUxK0%3DA2dgTq4ogphfA%40mail.gmail.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on t

RE: Keyboard Commands

2024-06-28 Thread Richard Turner
I just added the below to my word document for iOS keyboard commands on my web 
site:


iPad Keyboard Commands 


Here are some iPad keyboard commands from Apple that I just found. Published 
Date: October 13, 2023

*note, on a Windows keyboard, command is the alt key.

• Command+Space: Open search.

 

• Command+Left/Right: Switch to the previous or next app.

 

To see a list of shortcuts that you can use with an app, press and hold the 
Command ? key when you use the app or on the Home Screen.

* I am not finding any real equivalent to the Globe key on a non-Apple keyboard.

 

• Command-H: Go to the Home Screen.

 

• Command-Space bar: Show or hide the Search field.

 

• Command-Tab: Switch to the next most recently used app among your open apps.

 

• Command-Shift-3: Take a screenshot.

 

• Command-Shift-4: Take a screenshot and immediately open Markup to view or 
edit it.

 

• Command-Option-D: Show or hide the Dock.  * I could not get this to work on 
my Logitech Ergonomic keyboard that is supposed to be for Windows or iOS/Mac.

 

* I've not tried the following, but if you really need to work on customized 
keyboard commands, it may be worth a try with VoiceOver.  These commands are 
not VoiceOver specific.


Customize keyboard shortcuts


Open Settings, then tap Accessibility.

Tap Keyboards.

Tap Full Keyboard Access and turn it on.

Tap Commands.

Tap a command, then press a custom key combination to assign to it.

Tap Done.

 

 

 

 

Richard, USA

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SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"

-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Michael 
Irons
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2024 5:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Keyboard Commands

 

Hey Richard and others I have one quick thing I would like to say and that is 
if I got the Apple Magic Keyboard with my iPad or for my iPad it seems like all 
the keys on the keyboard should work with my iPad I guess if not, maybe that 
something I have to take up with Apple Accessibility.

Sent from my iPhone





On Jun 28, 2024, at 6:17 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote:



Michael and others,

Forget what I said.

The FN key is not the same as the globe key from my quick testing on my iPad.

None of the commands specifically for the iPad work for me using the FN key.

One source from a few years ago talked about modifying the key on a non Apple 
keyboard, but that setting was not where it said it would be, so I don’t know.

Some commands using FN that say FN work fine.

But Apple must have created a whole new Key that is unique to their keyboards.  
Typical.

 

 

Richard, USA

"INTROVERTS UNITE ... 

SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"

-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Michael Irons
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2024 3:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Keyboard Commands

 

 

I got a hold of an apple Magic Keyboard for the iPad I inherited from my 
deceased sister. So I guess where the function key would be on a regular 
keyboard it would be the globe key on the Apple Magic Keyboard? I have the iPad 
that happens to have the folio case on yet. I just wanted to have a Bluetooth 
keyboard to work with it and I ended up getting the Apple Magic Keyboard 
because that was the one that was being sold while I was at the time. 

 

Sent from my iPhone






On Jun 28, 2024, at 5:40 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote:



The keyboard commands are mostly the same no matter the iOS device.

I need to find the couple unique to iPads due to the split-view things you can 
do with having two apps open side by side, which I thought were in the list on 
my web site, but I’m not finding them.

If you find instructions that talk about the Globe key, as far as I can tell, 
that is the FN key on a regular keyboard, but Apple gave it a globe icon on 
their “magic” keyboards…

.

 

 

Richard, USA

"INTROVERTS UNITE ... 

SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"

-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

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I’m curious about keyboard shortcut keys on iOS. I read a post somewhere on 
AppleVis where the person was talking about using things like Command + N to 
send a new message on her iPad Pro using a Magic keyboard. These keyboard 
shortcut keys, are they a function of the iPad Pro, or the Magic keyboard, or 

Re: Keyboard Commands

2024-06-28 Thread Lyne
Hello,You can take a look in settings, accessibility, VoiceOver, commands and keyboard.LyneLe 28 juin 2024 à 18:34, Joe Orozco  a écrit :I’m curious about keyboard shortcut keys on iOS. I read a
post somewhere on AppleVis where the person was talking about using things like
Command + N to send a new message on her iPad Pro using a Magic keyboard. These
keyboard shortcut keys, are they a function of the iPad Pro, or the Magic
keyboard, or are they commands one can use across iOS? I’m really interested in
using this sort of functionality with my iPhone and Bluetooth keyboard, but I’ve
not found anything outside of the standard Voiceover keyboard commands.

 

Thank you kindly for any tips,

 

Joe 



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Re: Keyboard Commands

2024-06-28 Thread Michael Irons
Hey Richard and others I have one quick thing I would like to say and that is if I got the Apple Magic Keyboard with my iPad or for my iPad it seems like all the keys on the keyboard should work with my iPad I guess if not, maybe that something I have to take up with Apple Accessibility.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 28, 2024, at 6:17 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:Michael and others,Forget what I said.The FN key is not the same as the globe key from my quick testing on my iPad.None of the commands specifically for the iPad work for me using the FN key.One source from a few years ago talked about modifying the key on a non Apple keyboard, but that setting was not where it said it would be, so I don’t know.Some commands using FN that say FN work fine.But Apple must have created a whole new Key that is unique to their keyboards.  Typical.  Richard, USA"INTROVERTS UNITE ... SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Michael IronsSent: Friday, June 28, 2024 3:48 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Keyboard Commands  I got a hold of an apple Magic Keyboard for the iPad I inherited from my deceased sister. So I guess where the function key would be on a regular keyboard it would be the globe key on the Apple Magic Keyboard? I have the iPad that happens to have the folio case on yet. I just wanted to have a Bluetooth keyboard to work with it and I ended up getting the Apple Magic Keyboard because that was the one that was being sold while I was at the time.  Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 28, 2024, at 5:40 PM, Richard Turner <richardr_tur...@comcast.net> wrote:The keyboard commands are mostly the same no matter the iOS device.I need to find the couple unique to iPads due to the split-view things you can do with having two apps open side by side, which I thought were in the list on my web site, but I’m not finding them.If you find instructions that talk about the Globe key, as far as I can tell, that is the FN key on a regular keyboard, but Apple gave it a globe icon on their “magic” keyboards….  Richard, USA"INTROVERTS UNITE ... SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Joe OrozcoSent: Friday, June 28, 2024 3:35 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Keyboard Commands I’m curious about keyboard shortcut keys on iOS. I read a post somewhere on AppleVis where the person was talking about using things like Command + N to send a new message on her iPad Pro using a Magic keyboard. These keyboard shortcut keys, are they a function of the iPad Pro, or the Magic keyboard, or are they commands one can use across iOS? I’m really interested in using this sort of functionality with my iPhone and Bluetooth keyboard, but I’ve not found anything outside of the standard Voiceover keyboard commands. Thank you kindly for any tips, Joe -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CAJNA4bn6V9SGdS%2BxG2_%3Dj5mROF2xR9RLUxK0%3DA2dgTq4ogphfA%40mail.gmail.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/00f001dac9ac%241551c810%243ff55830%24%40comcast.net.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you

RE: Keyboard Commands

2024-06-28 Thread Richard Turner
Michael and others,

Forget what I said.

The FN key is not the same as the globe key from my quick testing on my iPad.

None of the commands specifically for the iPad work for me using the FN key.

One source from a few years ago talked about modifying the key on a non Apple 
keyboard, but that setting was not where it said it would be, so I don’t know.

Some commands using FN that say FN work fine.

But Apple must have created a whole new Key that is unique to their keyboards.  
Typical.

 

 

Richard, USA

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SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"

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Irons
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Keyboard Commands

 

 

I got a hold of an apple Magic Keyboard for the iPad I inherited from my 
deceased sister. So I guess where the function key would be on a regular 
keyboard it would be the globe key on the Apple Magic Keyboard? I have the iPad 
that happens to have the folio case on yet. I just wanted to have a Bluetooth 
keyboard to work with it and I ended up getting the Apple Magic Keyboard 
because that was the one that was being sold while I was at the time. 

 

Sent from my iPhone





On Jun 28, 2024, at 5:40 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote:



The keyboard commands are mostly the same no matter the iOS device.

I need to find the couple unique to iPads due to the split-view things you can 
do with having two apps open side by side, which I thought were in the list on 
my web site, but I’m not finding them.

If you find instructions that talk about the Globe key, as far as I can tell, 
that is the FN key on a regular keyboard, but Apple gave it a globe icon on 
their “magic” keyboards…

.

 

 

Richard, USA

"INTROVERTS UNITE ... 

SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"

-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

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Subject: Keyboard Commands

 

I’m curious about keyboard shortcut keys on iOS. I read a post somewhere on 
AppleVis where the person was talking about using things like Command + N to 
send a new message on her iPad Pro using a Magic keyboard. These keyboard 
shortcut keys, are they a function of the iPad Pro, or the Magic keyboard, or 
are they commands one can use across iOS? I’m really interested in using this 
sort of functionality with my iPhone and Bluetooth keyboard, but I’ve not found 
anything outside of the standard Voiceover keyboard commands.

 

Thank you kindly for any tips,

 

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Re: Keyboard Commands

2024-06-28 Thread Michael Irons
I got a hold of an apple Magic Keyboard for the iPad I inherited from my deceased sister. So I guess where the function key would be on a regular keyboard it would be the globe key on the Apple Magic Keyboard? I have the iPad that happens to have the folio case on yet. I just wanted to have a Bluetooth keyboard to work with it and I ended up getting the Apple Magic Keyboard because that was the one that was being sold while I was at the time. Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 28, 2024, at 5:40 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:The keyboard commands are mostly the same no matter the iOS device.I need to find the couple unique to iPads due to the split-view things you can do with having two apps open side by side, which I thought were in the list on my web site, but I’m not finding them.If you find instructions that talk about the Globe key, as far as I can tell, that is the FN key on a regular keyboard, but Apple gave it a globe icon on their “magic” keyboards….  Richard, USA"INTROVERTS UNITE ... SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joe OrozcoSent: Friday, June 28, 2024 3:35 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Keyboard Commands I’m curious about keyboard shortcut keys on iOS. I read a post somewhere on AppleVis where the person was talking about using things like Command + N to send a new message on her iPad Pro using a Magic keyboard. These keyboard shortcut keys, are they a function of the iPad Pro, or the Magic keyboard, or are they commands one can use across iOS? I’m really interested in using this sort of functionality with my iPhone and Bluetooth keyboard, but I’ve not found anything outside of the standard Voiceover keyboard commands. Thank you kindly for any tips, Joe -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CAJNA4bn6V9SGdS%2BxG2_%3Dj5mROF2xR9RLUxK0%3DA2dgTq4ogphfA%40mail.gmail.com.



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RE: Keyboard Commands

2024-06-28 Thread Richard Turner
The keyboard commands are mostly the same no matter the iOS device.

I need to find the couple unique to iPads due to the split-view things you can 
do with having two apps open side by side, which I thought were in the list on 
my web site, but I’m not finding them.

If you find instructions that talk about the Globe key, as far as I can tell, 
that is the FN key on a regular keyboard, but Apple gave it a globe icon on 
their “magic” keyboards…

.

 

 

Richard, USA

"INTROVERTS UNITE ... 

SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"

-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joe 
Orozco
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2024 3:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Keyboard Commands

 

I’m curious about keyboard shortcut keys on iOS. I read a post somewhere on 
AppleVis where the person was talking about using things like Command + N to 
send a new message on her iPad Pro using a Magic keyboard. These keyboard 
shortcut keys, are they a function of the iPad Pro, or the Magic keyboard, or 
are they commands one can use across iOS? I’m really interested in using this 
sort of functionality with my iPhone and Bluetooth keyboard, but I’ve not found 
anything outside of the standard Voiceover keyboard commands.

 

Thank you kindly for any tips,

 

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Keyboard Commands

2024-06-28 Thread Joe Orozco
I’m curious about keyboard shortcut keys on iOS. I read a post somewhere on
AppleVis where the person was talking about using things like Command + N
to send a new message on her iPad Pro using a Magic keyboard. These
keyboard shortcut keys, are they a function of the iPad Pro, or the Magic
keyboard, or are they commands one can use across iOS? I’m really
interested in using this sort of functionality with my iPhone and Bluetooth
keyboard, but I’ve not found anything outside of the standard Voiceover
keyboard commands.



Thank you kindly for any tips,



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RE: Question regarding simulating double tap and hold using Bluetooth Keyboard

2024-05-13 Thread Dennis Long
In order for proper testing to be done I and others would need specific 
examples where it fails.  Example when sending a voice message in WhatsApp it 
fails.
 
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Trivedi
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2024 9:03 AM
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Subject: Re: Question regarding simulating double tap and hold using Bluetooth 
Keyboard
 
Thanks Dennis for your help. Thank you others as well for responding. The 
command VO shift space works most of the time. Sometimes, however, I receive an 
error that says, “message failed to send” or something similar to that. May be 
problem is with my keyboard because, as I said,  the command does not fail all 
the times. 
 
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On May 8, 2024, at 10:04 PM, Dennis Long mailto:dennisl1...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hear is the correct answer.  .
1 position the VoiceOver cursor on the voice message button
2 press and hold VO shift space
3 if you hold this for 2 or 3 seconds, the voice message button will lock in 
the recording position.
4 talk all you want and then either press VO space or double tap on the voice 
message button.
Note I’m a keyboard user.  If you have any more questions you can email me at
dennisl1...@gmail.com <mailto:dennisl1...@gmail.com> 
 
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Subject: Question regarding simulating double tap and hold using Bluetooth 
Keyboard
 
Dear all. Let me start by Thanking you all for running or contributing to this 
useful list. My question is what keyboard command to use to simulate double tap 
and hold. For instance, to record a voice message on Whatsapp, you have to 
double tap and hold. When you are done recording your message, you release to 
send the message. I found no way to achieve this using bluetooth keyboard. I 
will appreciate some solution.
 
Thanks
 
MT
 
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On Apr 26, 2024, at 12:44 PM, Flor Lynch mailto:florl...@iol.ie> > wrote:
 
 That's a WhatsApp number, BTW. If calling from outside of Ireland, you would 
prefix that number with the country code of 00353.
 
On 4/26/2024 4:10 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
For those not subscribed to David’s list, here is a good tip for those who use 
Google Maps in case you had not discovered it.  
>From David Goldfield’s Tech-VI list:
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<mailto:tech...@groups.io>  On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2024 4:51 AM
Subject: [Tech-VI] How to Turn on Detailed Voice Guidance for Vision Impaired 
Users in Google Maps
 
Vision Ireland - Thursday, April 25, 2024 at 4:30 PM

How to Turn on Detailed Voice Guidance for Vision Impaired Users in Google Maps


by Joe Lonergan
Detailed Voice Guidance is not a new feature, but it is not well known and is 
hidden deep in the settings of Google Maps. If you are a fan of Google Maps, we 
think it is a good feature to turn on for a vision-impaired or blind user.
Detailed Voice Guidance expands the existing walking directions guidance with 
several extra elements. The directions are more proactive so that if you take a 
wrong turn, the vocal guide will tell you and find the best way to your 
destination from your new point. Along the way, it will tell you not only where 
to turn, but how far away it is and in what direction you are facing, and the 
vocal guide will also alert you before reaching busy intersections.
So how do we turn on this detailed navigation feature?
1.  Open Google Maps
2.  Navigate to Account and Settings, If you are a VoiceOver user you will 
find it by flicking left and it is the first option you will hear.
3.  While in here go to Settings.
4.  Now go to Navigation
5.  Flick to the right all the way down until you get to detailed Voice 
Guidance and turn it on
We love to hear software companies adding features like this into universal or 
mainstream apps as it is easier to use one app to get most of your information 
and gives the user more freedom and confidence.
If you are a user of Google Maps and you have turned on this feature we would 
like to hear if you found the extra navigation voice cues help to get to your 
final destination or if you are a user of any other navigation or mobility apps 
like Soundscape or Apple Maps we would love to hear which you find best and why?
You can send a voice note to the Talking Technology WhatsApp number 086 199 
0011 and we can play it on the show.
https://vi.ie/how-to-turn-on-detailed-voice-guidance-for-vision-impaired-users-in-google-maps/
 
 
 
David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
 
If you need help using your assistive technology learn about my training 
services by visiting
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Re: Question regarding simulating double tap and hold using Bluetooth Keyboard

2024-05-12 Thread Manan Trivedi
Thanks Dennis for your help. Thank you others as well for responding. The command VO shift space works most of the time. Sometimes, however, I receive an error that says, “message failed to send” or something similar to that. May be problem is with my keyboard because, as I said,  the command does not fail all the times. Sent from my iPhoneOn May 8, 2024, at 10:04 PM, Dennis Long  wrote:Hear is the correct answer.  .1 position the VoiceOver cursor on the voice message button2 press and hold VO shift space3 if you hold this for 2 or 3 seconds, the voice message button will lock in the recording position.4 talk all you want and then either press VO space or double tap on the voice message button.Note I’m a keyboard user.  If you have any more questions you can email me atdennisl1...@gmail.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Manan TrivediSent: Tuesday, May 7, 2024 3:17 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Question regarding simulating double tap and hold using Bluetooth Keyboard Dear all. Let me start by Thanking you all for running or contributing to this useful list. My question is what keyboard command to use to simulate double tap and hold. For instance, to record a voice message on Whatsapp, you have to double tap and hold. When you are done recording your message, you release to send the message. I found no way to achieve this using bluetooth keyboard. I will appreciate some solution. Thanks MT Sent from my iPhoneOn Apr 26, 2024, at 12:44 PM, Flor Lynch <florl...@iol.ie> wrote:  That's a WhatsApp number, BTW. If calling from outside of Ireland, you would prefix that number with the country code of 00353. On 4/26/2024 4:10 PM, Richard Turner wrote:For those not subscribed to David’s list, here is a good tip for those who use Google Maps in case you had not discovered it.  From David Goldfield’s Tech-VI list:From: tech...@groups.io tech...@groups.io On Behalf Of David GoldfieldSent: Friday, April 26, 2024 4:51 AMSubject: [Tech-VI] How to Turn on Detailed Voice Guidance for Vision Impaired Users in Google Maps Vision Ireland - Thursday, April 25, 2024 at 4:30 PMHow to Turn on Detailed Voice Guidance for Vision Impaired Users in Google Mapsby Joe LonerganDetailed Voice Guidance is not a new feature, but it is not well known and is hidden deep in the settings of Google Maps. If you are a fan of Google Maps, we think it is a good feature to turn on for a vision-impaired or blind user.Detailed Voice Guidance expands the existing walking directions guidance with several extra elements. The directions are more proactive so that if you take a wrong turn, the vocal guide will tell you and find the best way to your destination from your new point. Along the way, it will tell you not only where to turn, but how far away it is and in what direction you are facing, and the vocal guide will also alert you before reaching busy intersections.So how do we turn on this detailed navigation feature?Open Google MapsNavigate to Account and Settings, If you are a VoiceOver user you will find it by flicking left and it is the first option you will hear.While in here go to Settings.Now go to NavigationFlick to the right all the way down until you get to detailed Voice Guidance and turn it onWe love to hear software companies adding features like this into universal or mainstream apps as it is easier to use one app to get most of your information and gives the user more freedom and confidence.If you are a user of Google Maps and you have turned on this feature we would like to hear if you found the extra navigation voice cues help to get to your final destination or if you are a user of any other navigation or mobility apps like Soundscape or Apple Maps we would love to hear which you find best and why?You can send a voice note to the Talking Technology WhatsApp number 086 199 0011 and we can play it on the show.https://vi.ie/how-to-turn-on-detailed-voice-guidance-for-vision-impaired-users-in-google-maps/   David Goldfield,Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist If you need help using your assistive technology learn about my training services by visitingWWW.ScreenReaderTraining.com Am Yisrael ChaiThe Nation of Israel Lives! JAWS Certified, 2022NVDA Certified Expert Subscribe to the Tech-VI announcement list to receive news, events and information regarding the blindness assistive technology field.Email: tech-vi+subscr...@groups.iowww.DavidGoldfield.com-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegr

Re: Question regarding simulating double tap and hold using Bluetooth Keyboard

2024-05-12 Thread Eiret
Yep, here is an another one that may work: go to settings app > accessability > voiceover > commands > all commands. You will find it somewhere on the all commands tree. Don't remember exactly.Eiret9. mai 2024 kl. 06:05 skrev Dennis Long :The command is vo shift space.   From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jonathan CohnSent: Wednesday, May 8, 2024 5:28 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Question regarding simulating double tap and hold using Bluetooth Keyboard Well, first thing to do is discover what command that is being run.Press capslock k to bring up help mode. Then try the command.Once you discover the command “Perform long press” in this case, you can assign it to a keystroke in the voiceover settings or try and discover the  default keystroke. This is one place where Mac VoiceOver is superior to IOS in that VO+HH lets you search all VO commands and will list an assigned key for that action. Sent from my iPhoneOn May 8, 2024, at 11:07 AM, Manan Trivedi <manantrivedi...@gmail.com> wrote:Dear all. Let me start by Thanking you all for running or contributing to this useful list. My question is what keyboard command to use to simulate double tap and hold. For instance, to record a voice message on Whatsapp, you have to double tap and hold. When you are done recording your message, you release to send the message. I found no way to achieve this using bluetooth keyboard. I will appreciate some solution. Thanks MT Sent from my iPhoneOn Apr 26, 2024, at 12:44 PM, Flor Lynch <florl...@iol.ie> wrote:  That's a WhatsApp number, BTW. If calling from outside of Ireland, you would prefix that number with the country code of 00353. On 4/26/2024 4:10 PM, Richard Turner wrote:For those not subscribed to David’s list, here is a good tip for those who use Google Maps in case you had not discovered it.  >From David Goldfield’s Tech-VI list:From: tech...@groups.io tech...@groups.io On Behalf Of David GoldfieldSent: Friday, April 26, 2024 4:51 AMSubject: [Tech-VI] How to Turn on Detailed Voice Guidance for Vision Impaired Users in Google Maps Vision Ireland - Thursday, April 25, 2024 at 4:30 PMHow to Turn on Detailed Voice Guidance for Vision Impaired Users in Google Mapsby Joe LonerganDetailed Voice Guidance is not a new feature, but it is not well known and is hidden deep in the settings of Google Maps. If you are a fan of Google Maps, we think it is a good feature to turn on for a vision-impaired or blind user.Detailed Voice Guidance expands the existing walking directions guidance with several extra elements. The directions are more proactive so that if you take a wrong turn, the vocal guide will tell you and find the best way to your destination from your new point. Along the way, it will tell you not only where to turn, but how far away it is and in what direction you are facing, and the vocal guide will also alert you before reaching busy intersections.So how do we turn on this detailed navigation feature?Open Google MapsNavigate to Account and Settings, If you are a VoiceOver user you will find it by flicking left and it is the first option you will hear.While in here go to Settings.Now go to NavigationFlick to the right all the way down until you get to detailed Voice Guidance and turn it onWe love to hear software companies adding features like this into universal or mainstream apps as it is easier to use one app to get most of your information and gives the user more freedom and confidence.If you are a user of Google Maps and you have turned on this feature we would like to hear if you found the extra navigation voice cues help to get to your final destination or if you are a user of any other navigation or mobility apps like Soundscape or Apple Maps we would love to hear which you find best and why?You can send a voice note to the Talking Technology WhatsApp number 086 199 0011 and we can play it on the show.https://vi.ie/how-to-turn-on-detailed-voice-guidance-for-vision-impaired-users-in-google-maps/   David Goldfield,Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist If you need help using your assistive technology learn about my training services by visitingWWW.ScreenReaderTraining.com Am Yisrael ChaiThe Nation of Israel Lives! JAWS Certified, 2022NVDA Certified Expert Subscribe to the Tech-VI announcement list to receive news, events and information regarding the blindness assistive technology field.Email: tech-vi+subscr...@groups.iowww.DavidGoldfield.com-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searc

RE: Question regarding simulating double tap and hold using Bluetooth Keyboard

2024-05-08 Thread Dennis Long
The command is vo shift space.  
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jonathan 
Cohn
Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2024 5:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question regarding simulating double tap and hold using Bluetooth 
Keyboard
 
Well, first thing to do is discover what command that is being run.
Press capslock k to bring up help mode. Then try the command.
Once you discover the command “Perform long press” in this case, you can assign 
it to a keystroke in the voiceover settings or try and discover the  default 
keystroke.
 
This is one place where Mac VoiceOver is superior to IOS in that VO+HH lets you 
search all VO commands and will list an assigned key for that action.
 
Sent from my iPhone



On May 8, 2024, at 11:07 AM, Manan Trivedi mailto:manantrivedi...@gmail.com> > wrote:
Dear all. Let me start by Thanking you all for running or contributing to this 
useful list. My question is what keyboard command to use to simulate double tap 
and hold. For instance, to record a voice message on Whatsapp, you have to 
double tap and hold. When you are done recording your message, you release to 
send the message. I found no way to achieve this using bluetooth keyboard. I 
will appreciate some solution.
 
Thanks
 
MT
 
Sent from my iPhone



On Apr 26, 2024, at 12:44 PM, Flor Lynch mailto:florl...@iol.ie> > wrote:
 
 That's a WhatsApp number, BTW. If calling from outside of Ireland, you would 
prefix that number with the country code of 00353.
 
On 4/26/2024 4:10 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
For those not subscribed to David’s list, here is a good tip for those who use 
Google Maps in case you had not discovered it.  
>From David Goldfield’s Tech-VI list:
From: tech...@groups.io <mailto:tech...@groups.io>  tech...@groups.io 
<mailto:tech...@groups.io>  On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2024 4:51 AM
Subject: [Tech-VI] How to Turn on Detailed Voice Guidance for Vision Impaired 
Users in Google Maps
 
Vision Ireland - Thursday, April 25, 2024 at 4:30 PM

How to Turn on Detailed Voice Guidance for Vision Impaired Users in Google Maps


by Joe Lonergan
Detailed Voice Guidance is not a new feature, but it is not well known and is 
hidden deep in the settings of Google Maps. If you are a fan of Google Maps, we 
think it is a good feature to turn on for a vision-impaired or blind user.
Detailed Voice Guidance expands the existing walking directions guidance with 
several extra elements. The directions are more proactive so that if you take a 
wrong turn, the vocal guide will tell you and find the best way to your 
destination from your new point. Along the way, it will tell you not only where 
to turn, but how far away it is and in what direction you are facing, and the 
vocal guide will also alert you before reaching busy intersections.
So how do we turn on this detailed navigation feature?
1.  Open Google Maps
2.  Navigate to Account and Settings, If you are a VoiceOver user you will 
find it by flicking left and it is the first option you will hear.
3.  While in here go to Settings.
4.  Now go to Navigation
5.  Flick to the right all the way down until you get to detailed Voice 
Guidance and turn it on
We love to hear software companies adding features like this into universal or 
mainstream apps as it is easier to use one app to get most of your information 
and gives the user more freedom and confidence.
If you are a user of Google Maps and you have turned on this feature we would 
like to hear if you found the extra navigation voice cues help to get to your 
final destination or if you are a user of any other navigation or mobility apps 
like Soundscape or Apple Maps we would love to hear which you find best and why?
You can send a voice note to the Talking Technology WhatsApp number 086 199 
0011 and we can play it on the show.
https://vi.ie/how-to-turn-on-detailed-voice-guidance-for-vision-impaired-users-in-google-maps/
 
 
 
David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
 
If you need help using your assistive technology learn about my training 
services by visiting
WWW.ScreenReaderTraining.com <http://www.screenreadertraining.com/> 
 
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RE: Question regarding simulating double tap and hold using Bluetooth Keyboard

2024-05-08 Thread Dennis Long
Hear is the correct answer.  .
1 position the VoiceOver cursor on the voice message button
2 press and hold VO shift space
3 if you hold this for 2 or 3 seconds, the voice message button will lock in 
the recording position.
4 talk all you want and then either press VO space or double tap on the voice 
message button.
Note I’m a keyboard user.  If you have any more questions you can email me at
dennisl1...@gmail.com <mailto:dennisl1...@gmail.com> 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Manan 
Trivedi
Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2024 3:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Question regarding simulating double tap and hold using Bluetooth 
Keyboard
 
Dear all. Let me start by Thanking you all for running or contributing to this 
useful list. My question is what keyboard command to use to simulate double tap 
and hold. For instance, to record a voice message on Whatsapp, you have to 
double tap and hold. When you are done recording your message, you release to 
send the message. I found no way to achieve this using bluetooth keyboard. I 
will appreciate some solution.
 
Thanks
 
MT
 
Sent from my iPhone



On Apr 26, 2024, at 12:44 PM, Flor Lynch mailto:florl...@iol.ie> > wrote:
 
 That's a WhatsApp number, BTW. If calling from outside of Ireland, you would 
prefix that number with the country code of 00353.
 
On 4/26/2024 4:10 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
For those not subscribed to David’s list, here is a good tip for those who use 
Google Maps in case you had not discovered it.  
>From David Goldfield’s Tech-VI list:
From: tech...@groups.io <mailto:tech...@groups.io>  tech...@groups.io 
<mailto:tech...@groups.io>  On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2024 4:51 AM
Subject: [Tech-VI] How to Turn on Detailed Voice Guidance for Vision Impaired 
Users in Google Maps
 
Vision Ireland - Thursday, April 25, 2024 at 4:30 PM

How to Turn on Detailed Voice Guidance for Vision Impaired Users in Google Maps


by Joe Lonergan
Detailed Voice Guidance is not a new feature, but it is not well known and is 
hidden deep in the settings of Google Maps. If you are a fan of Google Maps, we 
think it is a good feature to turn on for a vision-impaired or blind user.
Detailed Voice Guidance expands the existing walking directions guidance with 
several extra elements. The directions are more proactive so that if you take a 
wrong turn, the vocal guide will tell you and find the best way to your 
destination from your new point. Along the way, it will tell you not only where 
to turn, but how far away it is and in what direction you are facing, and the 
vocal guide will also alert you before reaching busy intersections.
So how do we turn on this detailed navigation feature?
1.  Open Google Maps
2.  Navigate to Account and Settings, If you are a VoiceOver user you will 
find it by flicking left and it is the first option you will hear.
3.  While in here go to Settings.
4.  Now go to Navigation
5.  Flick to the right all the way down until you get to detailed Voice 
Guidance and turn it on
We love to hear software companies adding features like this into universal or 
mainstream apps as it is easier to use one app to get most of your information 
and gives the user more freedom and confidence.
If you are a user of Google Maps and you have turned on this feature we would 
like to hear if you found the extra navigation voice cues help to get to your 
final destination or if you are a user of any other navigation or mobility apps 
like Soundscape or Apple Maps we would love to hear which you find best and why?
You can send a voice note to the Talking Technology WhatsApp number 086 199 
0011 and we can play it on the show.
https://vi.ie/how-to-turn-on-detailed-voice-guidance-for-vision-impaired-users-in-google-maps/
 
 
 
David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
 
If you need help using your assistive technology learn about my training 
services by visiting
WWW.ScreenReaderTraining.com <http://www.screenreadertraining.com/> 
 
Am Yisrael Chai
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RE: Question regarding simulating double tap and hold using Bluetooth Keyboard

2024-05-08 Thread Dennis Long
Joshua that won’t help him.  I’m provide the proper command shortly
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2024 12:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question regarding simulating double tap and hold using Bluetooth 
Keyboard
 
Hello. On the hable one bluetooth braille keyboard, I press and hold dots 1-5. 
This works very well. I use it most with bard mobile.
Sent from My totally awesome iPhone!!



On May 8, 2024, at 10:07 AM, Manan Trivedi mailto:manantrivedi...@gmail.com> > wrote:
Dear all. Let me start by Thanking you all for running or contributing to this 
useful list. My question is what keyboard command to use to simulate double tap 
and hold. For instance, to record a voice message on Whatsapp, you have to 
double tap and hold. When you are done recording your message, you release to 
send the message. I found no way to achieve this using bluetooth keyboard. I 
will appreciate some solution.
 
Thanks
 
MT
 
Sent from my iPhone



On Apr 26, 2024, at 12:44 PM, Flor Lynch mailto:florl...@iol.ie> > wrote:
 
 That's a WhatsApp number, BTW. If calling from outside of Ireland, you would 
prefix that number with the country code of 00353.
 
On 4/26/2024 4:10 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
For those not subscribed to David’s list, here is a good tip for those who use 
Google Maps in case you had not discovered it.  
>From David Goldfield’s Tech-VI list:
From: tech...@groups.io <mailto:tech...@groups.io>  tech...@groups.io 
<mailto:tech...@groups.io>  On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2024 4:51 AM
Subject: [Tech-VI] How to Turn on Detailed Voice Guidance for Vision Impaired 
Users in Google Maps
 
Vision Ireland - Thursday, April 25, 2024 at 4:30 PM

How to Turn on Detailed Voice Guidance for Vision Impaired Users in Google Maps


by Joe Lonergan
Detailed Voice Guidance is not a new feature, but it is not well known and is 
hidden deep in the settings of Google Maps. If you are a fan of Google Maps, we 
think it is a good feature to turn on for a vision-impaired or blind user.
Detailed Voice Guidance expands the existing walking directions guidance with 
several extra elements. The directions are more proactive so that if you take a 
wrong turn, the vocal guide will tell you and find the best way to your 
destination from your new point. Along the way, it will tell you not only where 
to turn, but how far away it is and in what direction you are facing, and the 
vocal guide will also alert you before reaching busy intersections.
So how do we turn on this detailed navigation feature?
1.  Open Google Maps
2.  Navigate to Account and Settings, If you are a VoiceOver user you will 
find it by flicking left and it is the first option you will hear.
3.  While in here go to Settings.
4.  Now go to Navigation
5.  Flick to the right all the way down until you get to detailed Voice 
Guidance and turn it on
We love to hear software companies adding features like this into universal or 
mainstream apps as it is easier to use one app to get most of your information 
and gives the user more freedom and confidence.
If you are a user of Google Maps and you have turned on this feature we would 
like to hear if you found the extra navigation voice cues help to get to your 
final destination or if you are a user of any other navigation or mobility apps 
like Soundscape or Apple Maps we would love to hear which you find best and why?
You can send a voice note to the Talking Technology WhatsApp number 086 199 
0011 and we can play it on the show.
https://vi.ie/how-to-turn-on-detailed-voice-guidance-for-vision-impaired-users-in-google-maps/
 
 
 
David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
 
If you need help using your assistive technology learn about my training 
services by visiting
WWW.ScreenReaderTraining.com <http://www.screenreadertraining.com/> 
 
Am Yisrael Chai
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<https://www.freedomscientific.com/Training/Certification/> 
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Re: Question regarding simulating double tap and hold using Bluetooth Keyboard

2024-05-08 Thread Jonathan Cohn
Well, first thing to do is discover what command that is being run.Press capslock k to bring up help mode. Then try the command.Once you discover the command “Perform long press” in this case, you can assign it to a keystroke in the voiceover settings or try and discover the  default keystroke.This is one place where Mac VoiceOver is superior to IOS in that VO+HH lets you search all VO commands and will list an assigned key for that action.Sent from my iPhoneOn May 8, 2024, at 11:07 AM, Manan Trivedi  wrote:Dear all. Let me start by Thanking you all for running or contributing to this useful list. My question is what keyboard command to use to simulate double tap and hold. For instance, to record a voice message on Whatsapp, you have to double tap and hold. When you are done recording your message, you release to send the message. I found no way to achieve this using bluetooth keyboard. I will appreciate some solution.ThanksMT Sent from my iPhoneOn Apr 26, 2024, at 12:44 PM, Flor Lynch  wrote:

  

  
  
 That's a WhatsApp number, BTW. If calling from outside of
  Ireland, you would prefix that number with the country code of
  00353.


On 4/26/2024 4:10 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

  
  
  
  
  
For
those not subscribed to David’s list, here is a good tip for
those who use Google Maps in case you had not discovered
it.  
From
David Goldfield’s Tech-VI list:
From: tech...@groups.io tech...@groups.io On
  Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2024 4:51 AM
Subject: [Tech-VI] How to Turn on Detailed Voice
Guidance for Vision Impaired Users in Google Maps
 
Vision Ireland - Thursday, April 25, 2024 at 4:30 PM
How to Turn on Detailed Voice Guidance for Vision Impaired
  Users in Google Maps

by
  Joe Lonergan
Detailed Voice Guidance is not a new feature, but it is not
  well known and is hidden deep in the settings of Google Maps.
  If you are a fan of Google Maps, we think it is a good feature
  to turn on for a vision-impaired or blind user.
Detailed Voice Guidance expands the existing walking
  directions guidance with several extra elements. The
  directions are more proactive so that if you take a wrong
  turn, the vocal guide will tell you and find the best way to
  your destination from your new point. Along the way, it will
  tell you not only where to turn, but how far away it is and in
  what direction you are facing, and the vocal guide will also
  alert you before reaching busy intersections.
So how do
  we turn on this detailed navigation feature?

  Open
Google Maps
  Navigate
to Account and Settings, If you are a VoiceOver user you
will find it by flicking left and it is the first option you
will hear.
  While
in here go to Settings.
  Now
go to Navigation
  Flick
to the right all the way down until you get to detailed
Voice Guidance and turn it on

We love to hear software companies adding features like this
  into universal or mainstream apps as it is easier to use one
  app to get most of your information and gives the user more
  freedom and confidence.
If you are a user of Google Maps and you have turned on this
  feature we would like to hear if you found the extra
  navigation voice cues help to get to your final destination or
  if you are a user of any other navigation or mobility apps
  like Soundscape or Apple Maps we would love to hear which you
  find best and why?
You can send a voice note to the Talking Technology WhatsApp
  number 086 199 0011 and we can play it on the show.
https://vi.ie/how-to-turn-on-detailed-voice-guidance-for-vision-impaired-users-in-google-maps/
 
 
 
David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
 
If you need help using your assistive
  technology learn about my training services by visiting
WWW.ScreenReaderTraining.com
 
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The Nation of Israel Lives!
 
JAWS Certified, 2022
NVDA Certified Expert
 
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  to receive news, events and information regarding the
  blindness assistive technology field.
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Re: Question regarding simulating double tap and hold using Bluetooth Keyboard

2024-05-08 Thread William James
The only thing I found in the commands for the regular bluetooth keyboardis shift plus M.  Use the VO modifier in conjunction with that key.  Hold them down and see if that will do what you want.Sent from my iPhone Pro MaxOn May 8, 2024, at 11:07 AM, Manan Trivedi  wrote:Dear all. Let me start by Thanking you all for running or contributing to this useful list. My question is what keyboard command to use to simulate double tap and hold. For instance, to record a voice message on Whatsapp, you have to double tap and hold. When you are done recording your message, you release to send the message. I found no way to achieve this using bluetooth keyboard. I will appreciate some solution.ThanksMT Sent from my iPhoneOn Apr 26, 2024, at 12:44 PM, Flor Lynch  wrote:

  

  
  
 That's a WhatsApp number, BTW. If calling from outside of
  Ireland, you would prefix that number with the country code of
  00353.


On 4/26/2024 4:10 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

  
  
  
  
  
For
those not subscribed to David’s list, here is a good tip for
those who use Google Maps in case you had not discovered
it.  
From
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Vision Ireland - Thursday, April 25, 2024 at 4:30 PM
How to Turn on Detailed Voice Guidance for Vision Impaired
  Users in Google Maps

by
  Joe Lonergan
Detailed Voice Guidance is not a new feature, but it is not
  well known and is hidden deep in the settings of Google Maps.
  If you are a fan of Google Maps, we think it is a good feature
  to turn on for a vision-impaired or blind user.
Detailed Voice Guidance expands the existing walking
  directions guidance with several extra elements. The
  directions are more proactive so that if you take a wrong
  turn, the vocal guide will tell you and find the best way to
  your destination from your new point. Along the way, it will
  tell you not only where to turn, but how far away it is and in
  what direction you are facing, and the vocal guide will also
  alert you before reaching busy intersections.
So how do
  we turn on this detailed navigation feature?

  Open
Google Maps
  Navigate
to Account and Settings, If you are a VoiceOver user you
will find it by flicking left and it is the first option you
will hear.
  While
in here go to Settings.
  Now
go to Navigation
  Flick
to the right all the way down until you get to detailed
Voice Guidance and turn it on

We love to hear software companies adding features like this
  into universal or mainstream apps as it is easier to use one
  app to get most of your information and gives the user more
  freedom and confidence.
If you are a user of Google Maps and you have turned on this
  feature we would like to hear if you found the extra
  navigation voice cues help to get to your final destination or
  if you are a user of any other navigation or mobility apps
  like Soundscape or Apple Maps we would love to hear which you
  find best and why?
You can send a voice note to the Talking Technology WhatsApp
  number 086 199 0011 and we can play it on the show.
https://vi.ie/how-to-turn-on-detailed-voice-guidance-for-vision-impaired-users-in-google-maps/
 
 
 
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Re: Question regarding simulating double tap and hold using Bluetooth Keyboard

2024-05-08 Thread Joshua Hendrickson
Hello. On the hable one bluetooth braille keyboard, I press and hold dots 1-5. This works very well. I use it most with bard mobile.Sent from My totally awesome iPhone!!On May 8, 2024, at 10:07 AM, Manan Trivedi  wrote:Dear all. Let me start by Thanking you all for running or contributing to this useful list. My question is what keyboard command to use to simulate double tap and hold. For instance, to record a voice message on Whatsapp, you have to double tap and hold. When you are done recording your message, you release to send the message. I found no way to achieve this using bluetooth keyboard. I will appreciate some solution.ThanksMT Sent from my iPhoneOn Apr 26, 2024, at 12:44 PM, Flor Lynch  wrote:

  

  
  
 That's a WhatsApp number, BTW. If calling from outside of
  Ireland, you would prefix that number with the country code of
  00353.


On 4/26/2024 4:10 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

  
  
  
  
  
For
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those who use Google Maps in case you had not discovered
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From: tech...@groups.io tech...@groups.io On
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Sent: Friday, April 26, 2024 4:51 AM
Subject: [Tech-VI] How to Turn on Detailed Voice
Guidance for Vision Impaired Users in Google Maps
 
Vision Ireland - Thursday, April 25, 2024 at 4:30 PM
How to Turn on Detailed Voice Guidance for Vision Impaired
  Users in Google Maps

by
  Joe Lonergan
Detailed Voice Guidance is not a new feature, but it is not
  well known and is hidden deep in the settings of Google Maps.
  If you are a fan of Google Maps, we think it is a good feature
  to turn on for a vision-impaired or blind user.
Detailed Voice Guidance expands the existing walking
  directions guidance with several extra elements. The
  directions are more proactive so that if you take a wrong
  turn, the vocal guide will tell you and find the best way to
  your destination from your new point. Along the way, it will
  tell you not only where to turn, but how far away it is and in
  what direction you are facing, and the vocal guide will also
  alert you before reaching busy intersections.
So how do
  we turn on this detailed navigation feature?

  Open
Google Maps
  Navigate
to Account and Settings, If you are a VoiceOver user you
will find it by flicking left and it is the first option you
will hear.
  While
in here go to Settings.
  Now
go to Navigation
  Flick
to the right all the way down until you get to detailed
Voice Guidance and turn it on

We love to hear software companies adding features like this
  into universal or mainstream apps as it is easier to use one
  app to get most of your information and gives the user more
  freedom and confidence.
If you are a user of Google Maps and you have turned on this
  feature we would like to hear if you found the extra
  navigation voice cues help to get to your final destination or
  if you are a user of any other navigation or mobility apps
  like Soundscape or Apple Maps we would love to hear which you
  find best and why?
You can send a voice note to the Talking Technology WhatsApp
  number 086 199 0011 and we can play it on the show.
https://vi.ie/how-to-turn-on-detailed-voice-guidance-for-vision-impaired-users-in-google-maps/
 
 
 
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Question regarding simulating double tap and hold using Bluetooth Keyboard

2024-05-08 Thread Manan Trivedi
Dear all. Let me start by Thanking you all for running or contributing to this useful list. My question is what keyboard command to use to simulate double tap and hold. For instance, to record a voice message on Whatsapp, you have to double tap and hold. When you are done recording your message, you release to send the message. I found no way to achieve this using bluetooth keyboard. I will appreciate some solution.ThanksMT Sent from my iPhoneOn Apr 26, 2024, at 12:44 PM, Flor Lynch  wrote:

  

  
  
 That's a WhatsApp number, BTW. If calling from outside of
  Ireland, you would prefix that number with the country code of
  00353.


On 4/26/2024 4:10 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

  
  
  
  
  
For
those not subscribed to David’s list, here is a good tip for
those who use Google Maps in case you had not discovered
it.  
From
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From: tech...@groups.io tech...@groups.io On
  Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2024 4:51 AM
Subject: [Tech-VI] How to Turn on Detailed Voice
Guidance for Vision Impaired Users in Google Maps
 
Vision Ireland - Thursday, April 25, 2024 at 4:30 PM
How to Turn on Detailed Voice Guidance for Vision Impaired
  Users in Google Maps

by
  Joe Lonergan
Detailed Voice Guidance is not a new feature, but it is not
  well known and is hidden deep in the settings of Google Maps.
  If you are a fan of Google Maps, we think it is a good feature
  to turn on for a vision-impaired or blind user.
Detailed Voice Guidance expands the existing walking
  directions guidance with several extra elements. The
  directions are more proactive so that if you take a wrong
  turn, the vocal guide will tell you and find the best way to
  your destination from your new point. Along the way, it will
  tell you not only where to turn, but how far away it is and in
  what direction you are facing, and the vocal guide will also
  alert you before reaching busy intersections.
So how do
  we turn on this detailed navigation feature?

  Open
Google Maps
  Navigate
to Account and Settings, If you are a VoiceOver user you
will find it by flicking left and it is the first option you
will hear.
  While
in here go to Settings.
  Now
go to Navigation
  Flick
to the right all the way down until you get to detailed
Voice Guidance and turn it on

We love to hear software companies adding features like this
  into universal or mainstream apps as it is easier to use one
  app to get most of your information and gives the user more
  freedom and confidence.
If you are a user of Google Maps and you have turned on this
  feature we would like to hear if you found the extra
  navigation voice cues help to get to your final destination or
  if you are a user of any other navigation or mobility apps
  like Soundscape or Apple Maps we would love to hear which you
  find best and why?
You can send a voice note to the Talking Technology WhatsApp
  number 086 199 0011 and we can play it on the show.
https://vi.ie/how-to-turn-on-detailed-voice-guidance-for-vision-impaired-users-in-google-maps/
 
 
 
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Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
 
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Re: Small bluetooth keyboard recommendations

2024-03-13 Thread alban hoxha
how can install bluetooth device on ios?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Richard 
Turner 
Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2024 7:55:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Small bluetooth keyboard recommendations

The first difference is about $100. Maybe more.
The second is the HableOne handles all the processing on itself so you rather 
little control which form of braille to use. And, a tester of the HableOne 
switched to the Orbit Writer because he was tired of the HableOne people 
promising things that never happened ...
I've only used the Orbit Writer.



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On Mar 10, 2024, at 11:42 AM, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
 wrote:


There is also the Rivo 2 non-Braille keyboard
Harry

On 10 Mar 2024, at 18:20, Louise Peyton  wrote:



Hello:

What is the difference between using the Hable 1 and the Orbit writer?  Thanks 
in advance.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2024 1:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Small bluetooth keyboard recommendations



There’s also the Hable. You can find more at Hable – Smart devices made 
accessible to everyone (iamhable.com)<https://www.iamhable.com/> It’s available 
through the AT Guys at Hable One Smallest Braille Keyboard For Any Tablet or 
Smartphone - Easy to Carry : A. T. Guys, Your Access Technology Experts 
(atguys.com)<https://www.atguys.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=27&products_id=406>



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2024 9:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Small bluetooth keyboard recommendations



As Dennis said, the Orbit Writer is Bluetooth and a braille input keyboard, 
very small and is $99.

https://www.orbitresearch.com/product/orbit-writer/





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Subject: Small bluetooth keyboard recommendations



Hello all,

I’m looking for a small Bluetooth keyboard either braille or not braille to use 
for when texting on my iPhone.

So if anyone has any good affordable recommendations let me know.

Thanks and take care.

Don Risavy



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Re: Small bluetooth keyboard recommendations

2024-03-12 Thread Dennis Long
the orbit writer has serval things the hable doesn't. examples include support that responds to customers, as i have heard on there email list that one person emailed support 3 times to set up a call for help and didn't here back. Even if we take that with a grain of salt lets look at what the orbit writer has. 1 multi device support. 2 it works according to the documentation on apple phones macs windows pcs and i can confirm apple watchs and android phones and i believe fire tablets. the hable doesn't work on multible devices and allow for easy switching.  Dennis LongSent from my iPhone 15  Pro MaxOn Mar 10, 2024, at 2:42 PM, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  wrote:There is also the Rivo 2 non-Braille keyboardHarryOn 10 Mar 2024, at 18:20, Louise Peyton  wrote:







Hello:
What is the difference between using the Hable 1 and the Orbit writer?  Thanks in advance.
 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2024 1:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Small bluetooth keyboard recommendations


 
There’s also the Hable. You can find more at
Hable – Smart devices made accessible to everyone (iamhable.com) It’s available through the AT Guys at

Hable One Smallest Braille Keyboard For Any Tablet or Smartphone - Easy to Carry : A. T. Guys, Your Access Technology Experts (atguys.com)
 

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As Dennis said, the Orbit Writer is Bluetooth and a braille input keyboard, very small and is $99.
https://www.orbitresearch.com/product/orbit-writer/
 
 

Richard, USA
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Hello all,
I’m looking for a small Bluetooth keyboard either braille or not braille to use for when texting on my iPhone.
So if anyone has any good affordable recommendations let me know.
Thanks and take care.
Don Risavy
 
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Re: Small bluetooth keyboard recommendations

2024-03-12 Thread Richard Turner
The first difference is about $100. Maybe more. The second is the HableOne handles all the processing on itself so you rather little control which form of braille to use. And, a tester of the HableOne switched to the Orbit Writer because he was tired of the HableOne people promising things that never happened ... I've only used the Orbit Writer. Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ On Mar 10, 2024, at 11:42 AM, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  wrote:There is also the Rivo 2 non-Braille keyboardHarryOn 10 Mar 2024, at 18:20, Louise Peyton  wrote:







Hello:
What is the difference between using the Hable 1 and the Orbit writer?  Thanks in advance.
 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2024 1:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Small bluetooth keyboard recommendations


 
There’s also the Hable. You can find more at
Hable – Smart devices made accessible to everyone (iamhable.com) It’s available through the AT Guys at

Hable One Smallest Braille Keyboard For Any Tablet or Smartphone - Easy to Carry : A. T. Guys, Your Access Technology Experts (atguys.com)
 

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As Dennis said, the Orbit Writer is Bluetooth and a braille input keyboard, very small and is $99.
https://www.orbitresearch.com/product/orbit-writer/
 
 

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Hello all,
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Thanks and take care.
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RE: Small bluetooth keyboard recommendations

2024-03-11 Thread Dennis Long
I use the orbit without a desk every day.  I just put it on the Lanyard.
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2024 9:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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The Orbit Writer will be used with the dots in a horizontal configuration, just 
like you’re using a Perkins style braille keyboard. I have to use it on a flat 
surface but I’ve heard others say that there’s a lanyard where you can use it 
without putting it down. It uses the braille support in VoiceOver. If you’re 
using other braille devices, like a braille e-reader from the NLS, you’ll find 
the key commands are going to be similar.
 
The keys on the Hable are side by side and vertical, and you hold it in your 
hands facing away from you. It’s similar to what you use when you use braille 
screen input on the iPhone in the mode where the iPhone is facing away from 
you. It doesn’t use the braille input support in VoiceOver. It’s my 
understanding that it connects to your phone like a Bluetooth keyboard and not 
a braille device. For me, this means the connectivity is quicker and smoother. 
It handles the braille translation internally, so you can still use contracted 
braille. The key commands aren’t going to be exactly like what you’d be using 
with other braille devices, but they are similar, and at least in my opinion, 
are a bit more intuitive.
 
Another difference is that in the US the Orbit Writer costs around $100 while 
the Hable cost around $200.
 
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Louise Peyton
Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2024 1:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Small bluetooth keyboard recommendations
 
Hello:
What is the difference between using the Hable 1 and the Orbit writer?  Thanks 
in advance.
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2024 1:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Small bluetooth keyboard recommendations
 
There’s also the Hable. You can find more at Hable – Smart devices made 
accessible to everyone (iamhable.com) <https://www.iamhable.com/>  It’s 
available through the AT Guys at Hable One Smallest Braille Keyboard For Any 
Tablet or Smartphone - Easy to Carry : A. T. Guys, Your Access Technology 
Experts (atguys.com) 
<https://www.atguys.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=27&products_id=406>
 
 
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Subject: RE: Small bluetooth keyboard recommendations
 
As Dennis said, the Orbit Writer is Bluetooth and a braille input keyboard, 
very small and is $99.
https://www.orbitresearch.com/product/orbit-writer/
 
 
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Hello all,
I’m looking for a small Bluetooth keyboard either braille or not braille to use 
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So if anyone has any good affordable recommendations let me know.
Thanks and take care.
Don Risavy
 
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Re: Small bluetooth keyboard recommendations

2024-03-11 Thread Joshua Hendrickson
I use my Hable One keyboard every day for all kinds of things, not
just texting.  I can navigate my phone, and do things like go to the
home screen, activate Siri, answer and hang up on phone calls, do
searches on things like the bard mobile app, and even purchase things
from amazon.  I also use it with my credit card and banking apps.
Entering in phone numbers is very easy, especially if you need to
press numbers for any kind of menu, or enter in things like credit
card numbers.  The Hable One also charges with USBC and has a very
long battery life lasting around one month or more before needing to
be recharged.

On 3/10/24, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> The Orbit Writer will be used with the dots in a horizontal configuration,
> just like you're using a Perkins style braille keyboard. I have to use it on
> a flat surface but I've heard others say that there's a lanyard where you
> can use it without putting it down. It uses the braille support in
> VoiceOver. If you're using other braille devices, like a braille e-reader
> from the NLS, you'll find the key commands are going to be similar.
>
> The keys on the Hable are side by side and vertical, and you hold it in your
> hands facing away from you. It's similar to what you use when you use
> braille screen input on the iPhone in the mode where the iPhone is facing
> away from you. It doesn't use the braille input support in VoiceOver. It's
> my understanding that it connects to your phone like a Bluetooth keyboard
> and not a braille device. For me, this means the connectivity is quicker and
> smoother. It handles the braille translation internally, so you can still
> use contracted braille. The key commands aren't going to be exactly like
> what you'd be using with other braille devices, but they are similar, and at
> least in my opinion, are a bit more intuitive.
>
> Another difference is that in the US the Orbit Writer costs around $100
> while the Hable cost around $200.
>
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Louise Peyton
> Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2024 1:21 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Small bluetooth keyboard recommendations
>
> Hello:
> What is the difference between using the Hable 1 and the Orbit writer?
> Thanks in advance.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
> Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2024 1:03 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: Small bluetooth keyboard recommendations
>
> There's also the Hable. You can find more at Hable - Smart devices made
> accessible to everyone (iamhable.com)<https://www.iamhable.com/> It's
> available through the AT Guys at Hable One Smallest Braille Keyboard For Any
> Tablet or Smartphone - Easy to Carry : A. T. Guys, Your Access Technology
> Experts
> (atguys.com)<https://www.atguys.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=27&products_id=406>
>
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>
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> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2024 9:45 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: Small bluetooth keyboard recommendations
>
> As Dennis said, the Orbit Writer is Bluetooth and a braille input keyboard,
> very small and is $99.
> https://www.orbitresearch.com/product/orbit-writer/
>
>
> Richard, USA
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> -- Wolfgang Von Goethe
>
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>
> Hello all,
> I'm looking for a small Bluetooth keyboard either braille or not braille to
> use for when texting on my iPhone.
> So if anyone has any good affordable recommendations let me know.
> Thanks and take care.
> Don Risavy
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RE: Small bluetooth keyboard recommendations

2024-03-10 Thread Christopher Chaltain
The Orbit Writer will be used with the dots in a horizontal configuration, just 
like you're using a Perkins style braille keyboard. I have to use it on a flat 
surface but I've heard others say that there's a lanyard where you can use it 
without putting it down. It uses the braille support in VoiceOver. If you're 
using other braille devices, like a braille e-reader from the NLS, you'll find 
the key commands are going to be similar.

The keys on the Hable are side by side and vertical, and you hold it in your 
hands facing away from you. It's similar to what you use when you use braille 
screen input on the iPhone in the mode where the iPhone is facing away from 
you. It doesn't use the braille input support in VoiceOver. It's my 
understanding that it connects to your phone like a Bluetooth keyboard and not 
a braille device. For me, this means the connectivity is quicker and smoother. 
It handles the braille translation internally, so you can still use contracted 
braille. The key commands aren't going to be exactly like what you'd be using 
with other braille devices, but they are similar, and at least in my opinion, 
are a bit more intuitive.

Another difference is that in the US the Orbit Writer costs around $100 while 
the Hable cost around $200.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
Chaltain at Outlook, USA

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Louise 
Peyton
Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2024 1:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Small bluetooth keyboard recommendations

Hello:
What is the difference between using the Hable 1 and the Orbit writer?  Thanks 
in advance.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2024 1:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Small bluetooth keyboard recommendations

There's also the Hable. You can find more at Hable - Smart devices made 
accessible to everyone (iamhable.com)<https://www.iamhable.com/> It's available 
through the AT Guys at Hable One Smallest Braille Keyboard For Any Tablet or 
Smartphone - Easy to Carry : A. T. Guys, Your Access Technology Experts 
(atguys.com)<https://www.atguys.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=27&products_id=406>

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Chaltain at Outlook, USA

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2024 9:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Small bluetooth keyboard recommendations

As Dennis said, the Orbit Writer is Bluetooth and a braille input keyboard, 
very small and is $99.
https://www.orbitresearch.com/product/orbit-writer/


Richard, USA
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-- Wolfgang Von Goethe

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Subject: Small bluetooth keyboard recommendations

Hello all,
I'm looking for a small Bluetooth keyboard either braille or not braille to use 
for when texting on my iPhone.
So if anyone has any good affordable recommendations let me know.
Thanks and take care.
Don Risavy

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RE: Small bluetooth keyboard recommendations

2024-03-10 Thread Christopher Chaltain
The Logitech K-380 is also a small keyboard that will fit into a small bag. It 
has a pretty nice and solid feel to it. I don't use it when I'm out and about, 
but I do take it with me when I'm traveling.

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Doc Wright
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Amazon has the Omoton slim keyboard that wil fit in a backpack for about $20. 
It has standard size keys. Its demensions are on a standard size keyboard from 
the numbers row down to the space bar and from the caps lock to the enter key.
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There's also the Hable. You can find more at Hable - Smart devices made 
accessible to everyone (iamhable.com)<https://www.iamhable.com/> It's available 
through the AT Guys at Hable One Smallest Braille Keyboard For Any Tablet or 
Smartphone - Easy to Carry : A. T. Guys, Your Access Technology Experts 
(atguys.com)<https://www.atguys.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=27&products_id=406>

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Subject: RE: Small bluetooth keyboard recommendations

As Dennis said, the Orbit Writer is Bluetooth and a braille input keyboard, 
very small and is $99.
https://www.orbitresearch.com/product/orbit-writer/


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So if anyone has any good affordable recommendations let me know.
Thanks and take care.
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Re: Small bluetooth keyboard recommendations

2024-03-10 Thread Robert Doc Wright
Amazon has the Omoton slim keyboard that wil fit in a backpack for about 
$20. It has standard size keys. Its demensions are on a standard size 
keyboard from the numbers row down to the space bar and from the caps lock 
to the enter key.
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  There’s also the Hable. You can find more at Hable – Smart devices made 
accessible to everyone (iamhable.com) It’s available through the AT Guys at 
Hable One Smallest Braille Keyboard For Any Tablet or Smartphone - Easy to 
Carry : A. T. Guys, Your Access Technology Experts (atguys.com)



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  As Dennis said, the Orbit Writer is Bluetooth and a braille input 
keyboard, very small and is $99.

  https://www.orbitresearch.com/product/orbit-writer/





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  Hello all,

  I’m looking for a small Bluetooth keyboard either braille or not braille 
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  So if anyone has any good affordable recommendations let me know.

  Thanks and take care.

  Don Risavy



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Re: Small bluetooth keyboard recommendations

2024-03-10 Thread 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone
There is also the Rivo 2 non-Braille keyboardHarryOn 10 Mar 2024, at 18:20, Louise Peyton  wrote:







Hello:
What is the difference between using the Hable 1 and the Orbit writer?  Thanks in advance.
 


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There’s also the Hable. You can find more at
Hable – Smart devices made accessible to everyone (iamhable.com) It’s available through the AT Guys at

Hable One Smallest Braille Keyboard For Any Tablet or Smartphone - Easy to Carry : A. T. Guys, Your Access Technology Experts (atguys.com)
 

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As Dennis said, the Orbit Writer is Bluetooth and a braille input keyboard, very small and is $99.
https://www.orbitresearch.com/product/orbit-writer/
 
 

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Thanks and take care.
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RE: Small bluetooth keyboard recommendations

2024-03-10 Thread Louise Peyton
Hello:
What is the difference between using the Hable 1 and the Orbit writer?  Thanks 
in advance.

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There's also the Hable. You can find more at Hable - Smart devices made 
accessible to everyone (iamhable.com)<https://www.iamhable.com/> It's available 
through the AT Guys at Hable One Smallest Braille Keyboard For Any Tablet or 
Smartphone - Easy to Carry : A. T. Guys, Your Access Technology Experts 
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As Dennis said, the Orbit Writer is Bluetooth and a braille input keyboard, 
very small and is $99.
https://www.orbitresearch.com/product/orbit-writer/


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Hello all,
I'm looking for a small Bluetooth keyboard either braille or not braille to use 
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So if anyone has any good affordable recommendations let me know.
Thanks and take care.
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RE: Small bluetooth keyboard recommendations

2024-03-10 Thread Christopher Chaltain
There's also the Hable. You can find more at Hable - Smart devices made 
accessible to everyone (iamhable.com)<https://www.iamhable.com/> It's available 
through the AT Guys at Hable One Smallest Braille Keyboard For Any Tablet or 
Smartphone - Easy to Carry : A. T. Guys, Your Access Technology Experts 
(atguys.com)<https://www.atguys.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=27&products_id=406>

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Subject: RE: Small bluetooth keyboard recommendations

As Dennis said, the Orbit Writer is Bluetooth and a braille input keyboard, 
very small and is $99.
https://www.orbitresearch.com/product/orbit-writer/


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Hello all,
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RE: Small bluetooth keyboard recommendations

2024-03-09 Thread djrisavyjr
Thanks.

 

 

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As Dennis said, the Orbit Writer is Bluetooth and a braille input keyboard, 
very small and is $99.

https://www.orbitresearch.com/product/orbit-writer/

 

 

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Hello all,

I’m looking for a small Bluetooth keyboard either braille or not braille to use 
for when texting on my iPhone.

So if anyone has any good affordable recommendations let me know.

Thanks and take care.

Don Risavy

 

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RE: Small bluetooth keyboard recommendations

2024-03-09 Thread Richard Turner
As Dennis said, the Orbit Writer is Bluetooth and a braille input keyboard, 
very small and is $99.

https://www.orbitresearch.com/product/orbit-writer/

 

 

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Hello all,

I’m looking for a small Bluetooth keyboard either braille or not braille to use 
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So if anyone has any good affordable recommendations let me know.

Thanks and take care.

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Re: Small bluetooth keyboard recommendations

2024-03-09 Thread Dennis Long
The orbit writer is very good. Dennis LongSent from my iPhone 15  Pro MaxOn Mar 9, 2024, at 10:39 AM, djrisav...@att.net wrote:Hello all,I’m looking for a small Bluetooth keyboard either braille or not braille to use for when texting on my iPhone.So if anyone has any good affordable recommendations let me know.Thanks and take care.Don Risavy 



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Small bluetooth keyboard recommendations

2024-03-09 Thread djrisavyjr
Hello all,

I'm looking for a small Bluetooth keyboard either braille or not braille to
use for when texting on my iPhone.

So if anyone has any good affordable recommendations let me know.

Thanks and take care.

Don Risavy

 

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The Onscreen Keyboard Issue

2024-01-27 Thread Ron Canazzi

Hi Candy,

Using the Freedom Scientific Focus 40 Blue U Braille display, there is a 
hot key that if the on screen keyboard does not show up you can press to 
make it show up.  The unit must be connected when you do this. The hot 
key is a Q chord on the display.  I do not know if this works for all 
Braille displays.


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RE: no on-screen keyboard

2024-01-27 Thread chrisjudge1967
That happened to me just yesterday. Not sure what I did but it eventually 
sorted itself out.

 

Chris Judge

 



 

 



 

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Lowe
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2024 11:38 AM
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I am also having this problem.  I went so far as to have my phone forget all of 
my bluetooth devices and the problem still persued.  Then it was time to 
download IOS 17.3.  Then the problem corrected itself.  I am typing this email 
on a bluetooth keyboard, so I’m not sure what will happen when I turn the 
keyboard off.  This certainly is a miserable bug.   

Sent from my iPhone 15 Pro Max  

 





On Jan 24, 2024, at 3:03 PM, Robert Doc Wright mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

she is only using the iPhone itself.but no keyboard when she double taps any 
edit field.

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Subject: Re: no on-screen keyboard

 

There seems to be a problem when you connect a Bluetooth braille display or 
keyboard to the iPhone. After you turn off the device and want to use the on 
screen, keyboard, it doesn’t show up. I do not have a fix for it, but I sure 
would like to know how to fix it. 

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On Jan 24, 2024, at 9:16 AM, Robert Doc Wright mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

I have a friend who has the SE2022 but the keyboard does not appear when she 
double taps any edit field.

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Re: no on-screen keyboard

2024-01-27 Thread Candy Lowe
I am also having this problem.  I went so far as to have my phone forget all of my bluetooth devices and the problem still persued.  Then it was time to download IOS 17.3.  Then the problem corrected itself.  I am typing this email on a bluetooth keyboard, so I’m not sure what will happen when I turn the keyboard off.  This certainly is a miserable bug.   Sent from my iPhone 15 Pro Max   On Jan 24, 2024, at 3:03 PM, Robert Doc Wright  wrote:




she is only using the iPhone itself.but no keyboard 
when she double taps any edit field.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
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  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2024 7:23 
  AM
  Subject: Re: no on-screen keyboard
  There seems to be a problem when you connect a Bluetooth 
  braille display or keyboard to the iPhone. After you turn off the device and 
  want to use the on screen, keyboard, it doesn’t show up. I do not have a fix 
  for it, but I sure would like to know how to fix it. 
  Sent from my iPhone
  
  On Jan 24, 2024, at 9:16 AM, Robert Doc Wright 
 wrote:
  
 



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Re: no on-screen keyboard

2024-01-24 Thread Robert Doc Wright
she is only using the iPhone itself.but no keyboard when she double taps any 
edit field.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Thom Spittle
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2024 7:23 AM
  Subject: Re: no on-screen keyboard


  There seems to be a problem when you connect a Bluetooth braille display 
or keyboard to the iPhone. After you turn off the device and want to use the 
on screen, keyboard, it doesn’t show up. I do not have a fix for it, but I 
sure would like to know how to fix it.

  Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 24, 2024, at 9:16 AM, Robert Doc Wright 
 wrote:



I have a friend who has the SE2022 but the keyboard does not appear when 
she double taps any edit field.
**
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Re: no on-screen keyboard

2024-01-24 Thread Robert Doc Wright
She says she is running the latest iOS on the SE2022.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2024 11:06 AM
  Subject: RE: no on-screen keyboard


  What version of iOS do you use? I use a Bluetooth keyboard and if I am in 
an edit field and turn the keyboard off the onscreen keyboard comes back 
right away. This is using the just released iOS 17.3.



  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Thom Spittle
  Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2024 6:23 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: no on-screen keyboard



  There seems to be a problem when you connect a Bluetooth braille display 
or keyboard to the iPhone. After you turn off the device and want to use the 
on screen, keyboard, it doesn’t show up. I do not have a fix for it, but I 
sure would like to know how to fix it.

  Sent from my iPhone





On Jan 24, 2024, at 9:16 AM, Robert Doc Wright 
 wrote:



I have a friend who has the SE2022 but the keyboard does not appear when 
she double taps any edit field.

**
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Re: no on-screen keyboard

2024-01-24 Thread Thomas Frank
Turning off a Bluetooth keyboard turns on the onscreen keyboard automatically 
for me as well
Thomas Frank
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> On Jan 24, 2024, at 1:06 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> What version of iOS do you use? I use a Bluetooth keyboard and if I am in an 
> edit field and turn the keyboard off the onscreen keyboard comes back right 
> away. This is using the just released iOS 17.3.
>  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Thom 
> Spittle
> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2024 6:23 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: no on-screen keyboard
>  There seems to be a problem when you connect a Bluetooth braille display or 
> keyboard to the iPhone. After you turn off the device and want to use the on 
> screen, keyboard, it doesn’t show up. I do not have a fix for it, but I sure 
> would like to know how to fix it. 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Jan 24, 2024, at 9:16 AM, Robert Doc Wright  
> wrote:
> I have a friend who has the SE2022 but the keyboard does not appear when she 
> double taps any edit field.
> **
> Something to think about: 
> Since God has forgiven it, 
> who are you to keep picking it back up!  *
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RE: no on-screen keyboard

2024-01-24 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
What version of iOS do you use? I use a Bluetooth keyboard and if I am in an 
edit field and turn the keyboard off the onscreen keyboard comes back right 
away. This is using the just released iOS 17.3.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Thom 
Spittle
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2024 6:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: no on-screen keyboard

There seems to be a problem when you connect a Bluetooth braille display or 
keyboard to the iPhone. After you turn off the device and want to use the on 
screen, keyboard, it doesn’t show up. I do not have a fix for it, but I sure 
would like to know how to fix it.
Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 24, 2024, at 9:16 AM, Robert Doc Wright  
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I have a friend who has the SE2022 but the keyboard does not appear when she 
double taps any edit field.
**
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Re: no on-screen keyboard

2024-01-24 Thread Thom Spittle
There seems to be a problem when you connect a Bluetooth braille display or keyboard to the iPhone. After you turn off the device and want to use the on screen, keyboard, it doesn’t show up. I do not have a fix for it, but I sure would like to know how to fix it. Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 24, 2024, at 9:16 AM, Robert Doc Wright  wrote:






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no on-screen keyboard

2024-01-24 Thread Robert Doc Wright
I have a friend who has the SE2022 but the keyboard does not appear when she 
double taps any edit field.
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Re: keyboard disappearing issue on Iphone. Help needed.

2024-01-04 Thread Yohandy Rodriguez

thanks for all the suggestions everyone! Yes I do have a Bluetooth keyboard. 
I'll try checking these out and see if issue gets fixed.

- Original Message -
From: Jonathan Cohn 
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To: Viphone 
Sent: 1/1/2024 5:47:03 PM
Subject: Re: keyboard disappearing issue on Iphone. Help needed.



Hello Anne,

If focus is on the keyboard and one does a two finger forward/back movement, 
(which I believe is mapped to VO-escape) then the keyboard is supposed to hide 
itself. Moving away and back to a text field should re-expose it.
When this happens VO says keyboard hidden, but it is not a dialog, but just an 
announcement.




On Jan 1, 2024, at 5:43 PM, Ann Byrne  wrote:

My setting for Braille keyboards says "onscreen keyboard on".  I was ending a 
call with the magic tap, nothing extra connected, and a button appeared saying 
"hide keyboard".  I 
don't know where it came from, but I skipped away from it and nothing happened.  Sometimes, though, the keyboard disappears for no reason I can find, and the only way I know to recover it is to connect the K480 and toggle it on.  It would seem there should be a setting on the phone that would recover it, since the stinkin' 
phone decides to hide it.

At 04:22 PM 1/1/2024, you wrote:

Hello,
I believe it is standard behavior for the onboard keyboard to hide itself 
when a bluetooth input tool is available. There is a checkbox in the VoiceOver 
settings for Braille displays that should change this.



> On Jan 1, 2024, at 12:37 AM, Ron Canazzi  wrote:
>
> Hi Group,
>
> I also have this issue using the Focus 40 Blue Braille Keyboard. I guess 
it has something to do with the bluetooth grabbing access to the iPhone and 
somehow hiding the keyboard.  I believe the toggle for the Focus 40 Blue to 
hide and show the keyboard is the Q chord (dots 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 + space bar)

>
> On 12/31/2023 9:25 PM, Ann Byrne wrote:
>> This happens to me  and I 
don't know why or how.  I can recover the onscreen keyboard with a bluetooth keyboard, but that isn't 
a real solution.

>> At 04:37 PM 12/31/2023, you wrote:
>>
>>> Is it possible you have a Bluetooth keyboard around somewhere?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
>>>
>>> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Yohandy Rodriguez

>>> Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2023 2:37 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: keyboard disappearing issue on Iphone. Help needed.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hey all,
>>>
>>> I've been having this weird issue for a while now, whereby Iphone's 
keyboard randomly vanishes. sometimes 
it's there, and sometimes not. It happens on any app, and I can't figure out 
what causes this or how to fix it. Sometimes double-tapping and holding on a 
text field brings it back, but not always. Any help would be much appreciated.

>>>
>>> thanks in advanced, and tc all!
>>>
>>> Yohandy
>>>
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Re: keyboard disappearing issue on Iphone. Help needed.

2024-01-01 Thread Ann Byrne

Single finger double tap in an edit field does not restore the keyboard.
At 04:47 PM 1/1/2024, you wrote:

Hello Anne,

If focus is on the keyboard and one does a two 
finger forward/back movement, (which I believe 
is mapped to VO-escape) then the keyboard is 
supposed to hide itself. Moving away and back to 
a text field should re-expose it.
When this happens VO says keyboard hidden, but 
it is not a dialog, but just an announcement.



> On Jan 1, 2024, at 5:43 PM, Ann Byrne  wrote:
>
> My setting for Braille keyboards says 
"onscreen keyboard on".  I was ending a call 
with the magic tap, nothing extra connected, 
and a button appeared saying "hide 
keyboard".  I don't know where it came from, 
but I skipped away from it and nothing 
happened.  Sometimes, though, the keyboard 
disappears for no reason I can find, and the 
only way I know to recover it is to connect the 
K480 and toggle it on.  It would seem there 
should be a setting on the phone that would 
recover it, since the stinkin' phone decides to hide it.

> At 04:22 PM 1/1/2024, you wrote:
>> Hello,
>> I believe it is standard behavior for the 
onboard keyboard to hide itself when a 
bluetooth input tool is available. There is a 
checkbox in the VoiceOver settings for Braille 
displays that should change this.

>>
>>
>> > On Jan 1, 2024, at 12:37 AM, Ron Canazzi  wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi Group,
>> >
>> > I also have this issue using the Focus 40 
Blue Braille Keyboard. I guess it has something 
to do with the bluetooth grabbing access to the 
iPhone and somehow hiding the keyboard.  I 
believe the toggle for the Focus 40 Blue to 
hide and show the keyboard is the Q chord (dots 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 + space bar)

>> >
>> > On 12/31/2023 9:25 PM, Ann Byrne wrote:
>> >> This happens to me  and I don't know why 
or how.  I can recover the onscreen keyboard 
with a bluetooth keyboard, but that isn't a real solution.

>> >> At 04:37 PM 12/31/2023, you wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Is it possible you have a Bluetooth keyboard around somewhere?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>>
>> >>> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
>> >>>
>> >>> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Yohandy Rodriguez

>> >>> Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2023 2:37 PM
>> >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> >>> Subject: keyboard disappearing issue on Iphone. Help needed.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Hey all,
>> >>>
>> >>> I've been having this weird issue for a 
while now, whereby Iphone's keyboard randomly 
vanishes. sometimes it's there, and sometimes 
not. It happens on any app, and I can't figure 
out what causes this or how to fix it. 
Sometimes double-tapping and holding on a text 
field brings it back, but not always. Any help would be much appreciated.

>> >>>
>> >>> thanks in advanced, and tc all!
>> >>>
>> >>> Yohandy
>> >>>
>> >>>
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Re: keyboard disappearing issue on Iphone. Help needed.

2024-01-01 Thread Jonathan Cohn
Hello Anne,

If focus is on the keyboard and one does a two finger forward/back movement, 
(which I believe is mapped to VO-escape) then the keyboard is supposed to hide 
itself. Moving away and back to a text field should re-expose it.
When this happens VO says keyboard hidden, but it is not a dialog, but just an 
announcement.


> On Jan 1, 2024, at 5:43 PM, Ann Byrne  wrote:
> 
> My setting for Braille keyboards says "onscreen keyboard on".  I was ending a 
> call with the magic tap, nothing extra connected, and a button appeared 
> saying "hide keyboard".  I don't know where it came from, but I skipped away 
> from it and nothing happened.  Sometimes, though, the keyboard disappears for 
> no reason I can find, and the only way I know to recover it is to connect the 
> K480 and toggle it on.  It would seem there should be a setting on the phone 
> that would recover it, since the stinkin' phone decides to hide it.
> At 04:22 PM 1/1/2024, you wrote:
>> Hello,
>> I believe it is standard behavior for the onboard keyboard to hide itself 
>> when a bluetooth input tool is available. There is a checkbox in the 
>> VoiceOver settings for Braille displays that should change this.
>> 
>> 
>> > On Jan 1, 2024, at 12:37 AM, Ron Canazzi  wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi Group,
>> >
>> > I also have this issue using the Focus 40 Blue Braille Keyboard. I guess 
>> > it has something to do with the bluetooth grabbing access to the iPhone 
>> > and somehow hiding the keyboard.  I believe the toggle for the Focus 40 
>> > Blue to hide and show the keyboard is the Q chord (dots 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 + 
>> > space bar)
>> >
>> > On 12/31/2023 9:25 PM, Ann Byrne wrote:
>> >> This happens to me  and I don't know why or how.  I can recover the 
>> >> onscreen keyboard with a bluetooth keyboard, but that isn't a real 
>> >> solution.
>> >> At 04:37 PM 12/31/2023, you wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Is it possible you have a Bluetooth keyboard around somewhere?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>>
>> >>> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
>> >>>
>> >>> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> >>> Yohandy Rodriguez
>> >>> Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2023 2:37 PM
>> >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> >>> Subject: keyboard disappearing issue on Iphone. Help needed.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Hey all,
>> >>>
>> >>> I've been having this weird issue for a while now, whereby Iphone's 
>> >>> keyboard randomly vanishes. sometimes it's there, and sometimes not. It 
>> >>> happens on any app, and I can't figure out what causes this or how to 
>> >>> fix it. Sometimes double-tapping and holding on a text field brings it 
>> >>> back, but not always. Any help would be much appreciated.
>> >>>
>> >>> thanks in advanced, and tc all!
>> >>>
>> >>> Yohandy
>> >>>
>> >>>
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Re: keyboard disappearing issue on Iphone. Help needed.

2024-01-01 Thread Ann Byrne
My setting for Braille keyboards says "onscreen 
keyboard on".  I was ending a call with the magic 
tap, nothing extra connected, and a button 
appeared saying "hide keyboard".  I don't know 
where it came from, but I skipped away from it 
and nothing happened.  Sometimes, though, the 
keyboard disappears for no reason I can find, and 
the only way I know to recover it is to connect 
the K480 and toggle it on.  It would seem there 
should be a setting on the phone that would 
recover it, since the stinkin' phone decides to hide it.

At 04:22 PM 1/1/2024, you wrote:

Hello,
I believe it is standard behavior for the 
onboard keyboard to hide itself when a bluetooth 
input tool is available. There is a checkbox in 
the VoiceOver settings for Braille displays that should change this.



> On Jan 1, 2024, at 12:37 AM, Ron Canazzi  wrote:
>
> Hi Group,
>
> I also have this issue using the Focus 40 
Blue Braille Keyboard. I guess it has something 
to do with the bluetooth grabbing access to the 
iPhone and somehow hiding the keyboard.  I 
believe the toggle for the Focus 40 Blue to 
hide and show the keyboard is the Q chord (dots 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 + space bar)

>
> On 12/31/2023 9:25 PM, Ann Byrne wrote:
>> This happens to me  and I don't know why or 
how.  I can recover the onscreen keyboard with 
a bluetooth keyboard, but that isn't a real solution.

>> At 04:37 PM 12/31/2023, you wrote:
>>
>>> Is it possible you have a Bluetooth keyboard around somewhere?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
>>>
>>> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Yohandy Rodriguez

>>> Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2023 2:37 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: keyboard disappearing issue on Iphone. Help needed.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hey all,
>>>
>>> I've been having this weird issue for a 
while now, whereby Iphone's keyboard randomly 
vanishes. sometimes it's there, and sometimes 
not. It happens on any app, and I can't figure 
out what causes this or how to fix it. 
Sometimes double-tapping and holding on a text 
field brings it back, but not always. Any help would be much appreciated.

>>>
>>> thanks in advanced, and tc all!
>>>
>>> Yohandy
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: keyboard disappearing issue on Iphone. Help needed.

2024-01-01 Thread Jonathan Cohn
So you are saying that when you have a bluetooth keyboard or Braille display 
connected you see the on-screen keyboard, but as soon as it is disconnected the 
onscreen keyboard disappears?
I have seen this a few times all the way back to IOS-10. 
Toggling the show keyboard option in a setting somewhere and then rebooting 
without the bluetooth keyboard on usually fixes this.
I guess I need to write up the procedure.
Jonathan
> On Dec 31, 2023, at 9:25 PM, Ann Byrne  wrote:
> 
> This happens to me  and I don't know why or how.  I can recover the onscreen 
> keyboard with a bluetooth keyboard, but that isn't a real solution.
> At 04:37 PM 12/31/2023, you wrote:
> 
>> Is it possible you have a Bluetooth keyboard around somewhere?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
>> 
>> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Yohandy Rodriguez
>> Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2023 2:37 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: keyboard disappearing issue on Iphone. Help needed.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hey all,
>> 
>> I've been having this weird issue for a while now, whereby Iphone's keyboard 
>> randomly vanishes. sometimes it's there, and sometimes not. It happens on 
>> any app, and I can't figure out what causes this or how to fix it. Sometimes 
>> double-tapping and holding on a text field brings it back, but not always. 
>> Any help would be much appreciated.
>> 
>> thanks in advanced, and tc all!
>> 
>> Yohandy
>> 
>> 
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Re: keyboard disappearing issue on Iphone. Help needed.

2024-01-01 Thread Jonathan Cohn
Hello,
I believe it is standard behavior for the onboard keyboard to hide itself when 
a bluetooth input tool is available. There is a checkbox in the VoiceOver 
settings for Braille displays that should change this.


> On Jan 1, 2024, at 12:37 AM, Ron Canazzi  wrote:
> 
> Hi Group,
> 
> I also have this issue using the Focus 40 Blue Braille Keyboard. I guess it 
> has something to do with the bluetooth grabbing access to the iPhone and 
> somehow hiding the keyboard.  I believe the toggle for the Focus 40 Blue to 
> hide and show the keyboard is the Q chord (dots 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 + space bar)
> 
> On 12/31/2023 9:25 PM, Ann Byrne wrote:
>> This happens to me  and I don't know why or how.  I can recover the onscreen 
>> keyboard with a bluetooth keyboard, but that isn't a real solution.
>> At 04:37 PM 12/31/2023, you wrote:
>> 
>>> Is it possible you have a Bluetooth keyboard around somewhere?
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> Hey all,
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>>> I've been having this weird issue for a while now, whereby Iphone's 
>>> keyboard randomly vanishes. sometimes it's there, and sometimes not. It 
>>> happens on any app, and I can't figure out what causes this or how to fix 
>>> it. Sometimes double-tapping and holding on a text field brings it back, 
>>> but not always. Any help would be much appreciated.
>>> 
>>> thanks in advanced, and tc all!
>>> 
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Re: keyboard disappearing issue on Iphone. Help needed.

2023-12-31 Thread Ron Canazzi

Hi Group,

I also have this issue using the Focus 40 Blue Braille Keyboard. I guess 
it has something to do with the bluetooth grabbing access to the iPhone 
and somehow hiding the keyboard.  I believe the toggle for the Focus 40 
Blue to hide and show the keyboard is the Q chord (dots 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 + 
space bar)


On 12/31/2023 9:25 PM, Ann Byrne wrote:
This happens to me  and I don't know why or how.  I can recover the 
onscreen keyboard with a bluetooth keyboard, but that isn't a real 
solution.

At 04:37 PM 12/31/2023, you wrote:


Is it possible you have a Bluetooth keyboard around somewhere?



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Hey all,

I've been having this weird issue for a while now, whereby Iphone's 
keyboard randomly vanishes. sometimes it's there, and sometimes not. 
It happens on any app, and I can't figure out what causes this or how 
to fix it. Sometimes double-tapping and holding on a text field 
brings it back, but not always. Any help would be much appreciated.


thanks in advanced, and tc all!

Yohandy



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RE: keyboard disappearing issue on Iphone. Help needed.

2023-12-31 Thread Ann Byrne
This happens to me  and I don't know why or 
how.  I can recover the onscreen keyboard with a 
bluetooth keyboard, but that isn't a real solution.

At 04:37 PM 12/31/2023, you wrote:


Is it possible you have a Bluetooth keyboard around somewhere?



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Hey all,

I've been having this weird issue for a while 
now, whereby Iphone's keyboard randomly 
vanishes. sometimes it's there, and sometimes 
not. It happens on any app, and I can't figure 
out what causes this or how to fix it. Sometimes 
double-tapping and holding on a text field 
brings it back, but not always. Any help would be much appreciated.


thanks in advanced, and tc all!

Yohandy



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RE: keyboard disappearing issue on Iphone. Help needed.

2023-12-31 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Is it possible you have a Bluetooth keyboard around somewhere?

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Hey all,
I've been having this weird issue for a while now, whereby Iphone's keyboard 
randomly vanishes. sometimes it's there, and sometimes not. It happens on any 
app, and I can't figure out what causes this or how to fix it. Sometimes 
double-tapping and holding on a text field brings it back, but not always. Any 
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Yohandy

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keyboard disappearing issue on Iphone. Help needed.

2023-12-31 Thread Yohandy Rodriguez

Hey all,
I've been having this weird issue for a while now, whereby Iphone's keyboard 
randomly vanishes. sometimes 
it's there, and sometimes not. It happens on any app, and I can't figure out 
what causes this or how to fix it. Sometimes double-tapping and holding on a 
text field brings it back, but not always. Any help would be much appreciated.

thanks in advanced, and tc all!
Yohandy


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Re: Visible Wireless keyboard text entry

2023-12-29 Thread Dennis Long
T has been suggested i don’t know if it will happen i hope it does.Dennis LongSent from my iPhone 15 Pro MaxOn Dec 29, 2023, at 10:30 PM, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote:Yes that’s what I said.They need to add iPads though. I’m really liking the service. From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis LongSent: Friday, December 29, 2023 7:37 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Visible Wireless keyboard text entry Y can add a apple watch on Visible just fine   Dennis LongSent from my iPhone 15 Pro MaxOn Dec 29, 2023, at 8:30 PM, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote:Visible lets me do wifi calling and add apple watch. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of joseph hudsonSent: Friday, December 29, 2023 3:25 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Visible Wireless keyboard text entry Consumer cellular, was doing something similar, here in the states where you couldn't add cellular Apple Watch.Joseph Hudson EmailFaceTime/iMessagejhud7...@twc.comConnect with me on zoom https://us06web.zoom.us/j/3437608339?pwd=akNsMHlLTWsyWmk0UXdSaVdsSkhNUT09On Dec 29, 2023, at 3:22 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: MVNO’s will use the same network as the major providers, but while they are a great option for many, they do often not offer all the features  you may get from a provider like Verizon or at&T, at least that is the case in Canada.For example, we used to have a fairly reasonable plan from Koodo which is owned by Telus, one of our 3 major providers in Canada. Everything was great except Koodo does not have the option where you can add a cellular Apple Watch for an extra $10 a months.They offer something similar if you want to add an iPad, but not an Apple Watch.Similarly, many years ago, you could not enable Wi-Fi calling if you had a Koodo plan. This is no longer the case now, but as far as I know you still can’t add an Apple Watch cellular plan with Koodo. If you don’t have an Apple Watch cellular that is of course not an issue, but if that is something you want to have then you are out of luck. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Dennis LongSent: Thursday, December 28, 2023 12:56 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Visible Wireless keyboard text entry They are absolutely not a knock off company.  They are owned by Verizon.  They offer the same great coverage of Verizon but for far less. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of joseph hudsonSent: Wednesday, December 27, 2023 4:42 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Visible Wireless keyboard text entry Yes, this is one of the knockoff companies in the US. But since they are a virtual company, I'm sure you can sign up to them anywhere.Joseph Hudson EmailFaceTime/iMessagejhud7...@twc.comConnect with me on zoom https://us06web.zoom.us/j/3437608339?pwd=akNsMHlLTWsyWmk0UXdSaVdsSkhNUT09On Dec 27, 2023, at 3:38 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: I assume this is a cellular provider/MVNO in the US?As for the 2-factor authentication, is it delivered by text message? If so then on your iPhone you just have to locate the button to automatically fill in the code which is typically available just above the on-screen keyboard on the left, tap it and the 2-factor code from the text message is automatically inserted. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of sarai.bucciare...@gmail.comSent: Wednesday, December 27, 2023 12:43 PMTo: macvisionar...@googlegroups.comCc: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Visible Wireless keyboard text entry Hi all:So far I’m enjoying Visible wireless. The app is 99% usable. One annoying issue is with voiceover running when entering in text I’ve had other characters enter in that I don’t type. Work around is copying and pasting the majority of text.I hit a snag. They now have two factor authentication and I cannot type the code due to text being entered in that is in addition to what I type. You cannot edit either. I’ve even tried with a Braille display.No go. Has anyone found work arounds?-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email toviphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/

RE: Visible Wireless keyboard text entry

2023-12-29 Thread sarai.bucciarelli
Yes that’s what I said.

They need to add iPads though. I’m really liking the service.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Visible Wireless keyboard text entry

 

Y can add a apple watch on Visible just fine 

 

 

Dennis Long

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Visible lets me do wifi calling and add apple watch.

 

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Visible Wireless keyboard text entry

 

Consumer cellular, was doing something similar, here in the states where you 
couldn't add cellular Apple Watch.

Joseph Hudson

 

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On Dec 29, 2023, at 3:22 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

MVNO’s will use the same network as the major providers, but while they are a 
great option for many, they do often not offer all the features  you may get 
from a provider like Verizon or at&T, at least that is the case in Canada.

For example, we used to have a fairly reasonable plan from Koodo which is owned 
by Telus, one of our 3 major providers in Canada. Everything was great except 
Koodo does not have the option where you can add a cellular Apple Watch for an 
extra $10 a months.

They offer something similar if you want to add an iPad, but not an Apple Watch.

Similarly, many years ago, you could not enable Wi-Fi calling if you had a 
Koodo plan. This is no longer the case now, but as far as I know you still 
can’t add an Apple Watch cellular plan with Koodo. If you don’t have an Apple 
Watch cellular that is of course not an issue, but if that is something you 
want to have then you are out of luck.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Dennis Long
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2023 12:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Visible Wireless keyboard text entry

 

They are absolutely not a knock off company.  They are owned by Verizon.  They 
offer the same great coverage of Verizon but for far less.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2023 4:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Visible Wireless keyboard text entry

 

Yes, this is one of the knockoff companies in the US. But since they are a 
virtual company, I'm sure you can sign up to them anywhere.

Joseph Hudson

 

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On Dec 27, 2023, at 3:38 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

I assume this is a cellular provider/MVNO in the US?

As for the 2-factor authentication, is it delivered by text message? If so then 
on your iPhone you just have to locate the button to automatically fill in the 
code which is typically available just above the on-screen keyboard on the 
left, tap it and the 2-factor code from the text message is automatically 
inserted.

 

From:  <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com< 
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<mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com> sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com
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Cc:  <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Visible Wireless keyboard text entry

 

Hi all:

So far I’m enjoying Visible wireless. The app is 99% usable. One annoying issue 
is with voiceover running when entering in text I’ve had other characters enter 
in that I don’t type. Work around is copying and pasting the majority of text.

I hit a snag. They now have two factor authentication and I cannot type the 
code due to text being entered in that is in addition to what I type. You 
cannot edit either. I’ve even tried with a Braille display.

No go. 

Has anyone found work arounds?

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Re: Visible Wireless keyboard text entry

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Y can add a apple watch on Visible just fine Dennis LongSent from my iPhone 15 Pro MaxOn Dec 29, 2023, at 8:30 PM, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote:Visible lets me do wifi calling and add apple watch. From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of joseph hudsonSent: Friday, December 29, 2023 3:25 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Visible Wireless keyboard text entry Consumer cellular, was doing something similar, here in the states where you couldn't add cellular Apple Watch.Joseph Hudson EmailFaceTime/iMessagejhud7...@twc.comConnect with me on zoom https://us06web.zoom.us/j/3437608339?pwd=akNsMHlLTWsyWmk0UXdSaVdsSkhNUT09On Dec 29, 2023, at 3:22 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: MVNO’s will use the same network as the major providers, but while they are a great option for many, they do often not offer all the features  you may get from a provider like Verizon or at&T, at least that is the case in Canada.For example, we used to have a fairly reasonable plan from Koodo which is owned by Telus, one of our 3 major providers in Canada. Everything was great except Koodo does not have the option where you can add a cellular Apple Watch for an extra $10 a months.They offer something similar if you want to add an iPad, but not an Apple Watch.Similarly, many years ago, you could not enable Wi-Fi calling if you had a Koodo plan. This is no longer the case now, but as far as I know you still can’t add an Apple Watch cellular plan with Koodo. If you don’t have an Apple Watch cellular that is of course not an issue, but if that is something you want to have then you are out of luck. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Dennis LongSent: Thursday, December 28, 2023 12:56 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Visible Wireless keyboard text entry They are absolutely not a knock off company.  They are owned by Verizon.  They offer the same great coverage of Verizon but for far less. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of joseph hudsonSent: Wednesday, December 27, 2023 4:42 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Visible Wireless keyboard text entry Yes, this is one of the knockoff companies in the US. But since they are a virtual company, I'm sure you can sign up to them anywhere.Joseph Hudson EmailFaceTime/iMessagejhud7...@twc.comConnect with me on zoom https://us06web.zoom.us/j/3437608339?pwd=akNsMHlLTWsyWmk0UXdSaVdsSkhNUT09On Dec 27, 2023, at 3:38 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: I assume this is a cellular provider/MVNO in the US?As for the 2-factor authentication, is it delivered by text message? If so then on your iPhone you just have to locate the button to automatically fill in the code which is typically available just above the on-screen keyboard on the left, tap it and the 2-factor code from the text message is automatically inserted. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of sarai.bucciare...@gmail.comSent: Wednesday, December 27, 2023 12:43 PMTo: macvisionar...@googlegroups.comCc: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Visible Wireless keyboard text entry Hi all:So far I’m enjoying Visible wireless. The app is 99% usable. One annoying issue is with voiceover running when entering in text I’ve had other characters enter in that I don’t type. Work around is copying and pasting the majority of text.I hit a snag. They now have two factor authentication and I cannot type the code due to text being entered in that is in addition to what I type. You cannot edit either. I’ve even tried with a Braille display.No go. Has anyone found work arounds?-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email toviphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/016e01da3905%244a8b3df0%24dfa1b9d0%24%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Qu

RE: Visible Wireless keyboard text entry

2023-12-29 Thread sarai.bucciarelli
Visible lets me do wifi calling and add apple watch.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of joseph 
hudson
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2023 3:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Visible Wireless keyboard text entry

 

Consumer cellular, was doing something similar, here in the states where you 
couldn't add cellular Apple Watch.

Joseph Hudson

 

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On Dec 29, 2023, at 3:22 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

MVNO’s will use the same network as the major providers, but while they are a 
great option for many, they do often not offer all the features  you may get 
from a provider like Verizon or at&T, at least that is the case in Canada.

For example, we used to have a fairly reasonable plan from Koodo which is owned 
by Telus, one of our 3 major providers in Canada. Everything was great except 
Koodo does not have the option where you can add a cellular Apple Watch for an 
extra $10 a months.

They offer something similar if you want to add an iPad, but not an Apple Watch.

Similarly, many years ago, you could not enable Wi-Fi calling if you had a 
Koodo plan. This is no longer the case now, but as far as I know you still 
can’t add an Apple Watch cellular plan with Koodo. If you don’t have an Apple 
Watch cellular that is of course not an issue, but if that is something you 
want to have then you are out of luck.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Dennis Long
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2023 12:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Visible Wireless keyboard text entry

 

They are absolutely not a knock off company.  They are owned by Verizon.  They 
offer the same great coverage of Verizon but for far less.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
joseph hudson
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2023 4:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Visible Wireless keyboard text entry

 

Yes, this is one of the knockoff companies in the US. But since they are a 
virtual company, I'm sure you can sign up to them anywhere.

Joseph Hudson

 

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On Dec 27, 2023, at 3:38 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

I assume this is a cellular provider/MVNO in the US?

As for the 2-factor authentication, is it delivered by text message? If so then 
on your iPhone you just have to locate the button to automatically fill in the 
code which is typically available just above the on-screen keyboard on the 
left, tap it and the 2-factor code from the text message is automatically 
inserted.

 

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Cc:  <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Visible Wireless keyboard text entry

 

Hi all:

So far I’m enjoying Visible wireless. The app is 99% usable. One annoying issue 
is with voiceover running when entering in text I’ve had other characters enter 
in that I don’t type. Work around is copying and pasting the majority of text.

I hit a snag. They now have two factor authentication and I cannot type the 
code due to text being entered in that is in addition to what I type. You 
cannot edit either. I’ve even tried with a Braille display.

No go. 

Has anyone found work arounds?

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Re: Visible Wireless keyboard text entry

2023-12-29 Thread joseph hudson
Consumer cellular, was doing something similar, here in the states where you 
couldn't add cellular Apple Watch.
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> On Dec 29, 2023, at 3:22 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> MVNO’s will use the same network as the major providers, but while they are a 
> great option for many, they do often not offer all the features  you may get 
> from a provider like Verizon or at&T, at least that is the case in Canada.
> For example, we used to have a fairly reasonable plan from Koodo which is 
> owned by Telus, one of our 3 major providers in Canada. Everything was great 
> except Koodo does not have the option where you can add a cellular Apple 
> Watch for an extra $10 a months.
> They offer something similar if you want to add an iPad, but not an Apple 
> Watch.
> Similarly, many years ago, you could not enable Wi-Fi calling if you had a 
> Koodo plan. This is no longer the case now, but as far as I know you still 
> can’t add an Apple Watch cellular plan with Koodo. If you don’t have an Apple 
> Watch cellular that is of course not an issue, but if that is something you 
> want to have then you are out of luck.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Dennis Long
> Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2023 12:56 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: Visible Wireless keyboard text entry
>  
> They are absolutely not a knock off company.  They are owned by Verizon.  
> They offer the same great coverage of Verizon but for far less.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of joseph 
> hudson
> Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2023 4:42 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Visible Wireless keyboard text entry
>  
> Yes, this is one of the knockoff companies in the US. But since they are a 
> virtual company, I'm sure you can sign up to them anywhere.
> Joseph Hudson
>  
> EmailFaceTime/iMessage
> jhud7...@twc.com <mailto:jhud7...@twc.com>
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> 
> 
> On Dec 27, 2023, at 3:38 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
>  
> I assume this is a cellular provider/MVNO in the US?
> As for the 2-factor authentication, is it delivered by text message? If so 
> then on your iPhone you just have to locate the button to automatically fill 
> in the code which is typically available just above the on-screen keyboard on 
> the left, tap it and the 2-factor code from the text message is automatically 
> inserted.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2023 12:43 PM
> To: macvisionar...@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com>
> Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Visible Wireless keyboard text entry
>  
> Hi all:
> So far I’m enjoying Visible wireless. The app is 99% usable. One annoying 
> issue is with voiceover running when entering in text I’ve had other 
> characters enter in that I don’t type. Work around is copying and pasting the 
> majority of text.
> I hit a snag. They now have two factor authentication and I cannot type the 
> code due to text being entered in that is in addition to what I type. You 
> cannot edit either. I’ve even tried with a Braille display.
> No go. 
> Has anyone found work arounds?
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RE: Visible Wireless keyboard text entry

2023-12-29 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
MVNO’s will use the same network as the major providers, but while they are a 
great option for many, they do often not offer all the features  you may get 
from a provider like Verizon or at&T, at least that is the case in Canada.
For example, we used to have a fairly reasonable plan from Koodo which is owned 
by Telus, one of our 3 major providers in Canada. Everything was great except 
Koodo does not have the option where you can add a cellular Apple Watch for an 
extra $10 a months.
They offer something similar if you want to add an iPad, but not an Apple Watch.
Similarly, many years ago, you could not enable Wi-Fi calling if you had a 
Koodo plan. This is no longer the case now, but as far as I know you still 
can’t add an Apple Watch cellular plan with Koodo. If you don’t have an Apple 
Watch cellular that is of course not an issue, but if that is something you 
want to have then you are out of luck.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2023 12:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Visible Wireless keyboard text entry

They are absolutely not a knock off company.  They are owned by Verizon.  They 
offer the same great coverage of Verizon but for far less.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of joseph 
hudson
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2023 4:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Visible Wireless keyboard text entry

Yes, this is one of the knockoff companies in the US. But since they are a 
virtual company, I'm sure you can sign up to them anywhere.
Joseph Hudson

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On Dec 27, 2023, at 3:38 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

I assume this is a cellular provider/MVNO in the US?
As for the 2-factor authentication, is it delivered by text message? If so then 
on your iPhone you just have to locate the button to automatically fill in the 
code which is typically available just above the on-screen keyboard on the 
left, tap it and the 2-factor code from the text message is automatically 
inserted.

From: 
viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
 On Behalf Of sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com<mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2023 12:43 PM
To: macvisionar...@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com>
Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Visible Wireless keyboard text entry

Hi all:
So far I’m enjoying Visible wireless. The app is 99% usable. One annoying issue 
is with voiceover running when entering in text I’ve had other characters enter 
in that I don’t type. Work around is copying and pasting the majority of text.
I hit a snag. They now have two factor authentication and I cannot type the 
code due to text being entered in that is in addition to what I type. You 
cannot edit either. I’ve even tried with a Braille display.
No go.
Has anyone found work arounds?
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Re: Visible Wireless keyboard text entry

2023-12-28 Thread joseph hudson
That's what I meant they're own by Verizon, but there are knock off of Verizon. 
That's what I meant by knock off.
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> On Dec 28, 2023, at 2:56 AM, Dennis Long  wrote:
> 
> They are absolutely not a knock off company.  They are owned by Verizon.  
> They offer the same great coverage of Verizon but for far less.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of joseph 
> hudson
> Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2023 4:42 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Visible Wireless keyboard text entry
>  
> Yes, this is one of the knockoff companies in the US. But since they are a 
> virtual company, I'm sure you can sign up to them anywhere.
> Joseph Hudson
>  
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> jhud7...@twc.com <mailto:jhud7...@twc.com>
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> 
>> On Dec 27, 2023, at 3:38 PM, Sieghard Weitzel > <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
>>  
>> I assume this is a cellular provider/MVNO in the US?
>> As for the 2-factor authentication, is it delivered by text message? If so 
>> then on your iPhone you just have to locate the button to automatically fill 
>> in the code which is typically available just above the on-screen keyboard 
>> on the left, tap it and the 2-factor code from the text message is 
>> automatically inserted.
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2023 12:43 PM
>> To: macvisionar...@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com>
>> Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Visible Wireless keyboard text entry
>>  
>> Hi all:
>> So far I’m enjoying Visible wireless. The app is 99% usable. One annoying 
>> issue is with voiceover running when entering in text I’ve had other 
>> characters enter in that I don’t type. Work around is copying and pasting 
>> the majority of text.
>> I hit a snag. They now have two factor authentication and I cannot type the 
>> code due to text being entered in that is in addition to what I type. You 
>> cannot edit either. I’ve even tried with a Braille display.
>> No go. 
>> Has anyone found work arounds?
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RE: Visible Wireless keyboard text entry

2023-12-28 Thread sarai.bucciarelli
They are awesome. I am pleasantly surprised. I was going to switch to the $45 
plan but the $25 one is fast especially when using Aira.

I’ll wait and switch plans when there is a discount. LOL.  

 

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Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2023 2:56 AM
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They are absolutely not a knock off company.  They are owned by Verizon.  They 
offer the same great coverage of Verizon but for far less.

 

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Yes, this is one of the knockoff companies in the US. But since they are a 
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On Dec 27, 2023, at 3:38 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

I assume this is a cellular provider/MVNO in the US?

As for the 2-factor authentication, is it delivered by text message? If so then 
on your iPhone you just have to locate the button to automatically fill in the 
code which is typically available just above the on-screen keyboard on the 
left, tap it and the 2-factor code from the text message is automatically 
inserted.

 

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Subject: Visible Wireless keyboard text entry

 

Hi all:

So far I’m enjoying Visible wireless. The app is 99% usable. One annoying issue 
is with voiceover running when entering in text I’ve had other characters enter 
in that I don’t type. Work around is copying and pasting the majority of text.

I hit a snag. They now have two factor authentication and I cannot type the 
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cannot edit either. I’ve even tried with a Braille display.

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RE: Visible Wireless keyboard text entry

2023-12-28 Thread Dennis Long
They are absolutely not a knock off company.  They are owned by Verizon.  They 
offer the same great coverage of Verizon but for far less.
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of joseph 
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Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2023 4:42 PM
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Yes, this is one of the knockoff companies in the US. But since they are a 
virtual company, I'm sure you can sign up to them anywhere.
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On Dec 27, 2023, at 3:38 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:
 
I assume this is a cellular provider/MVNO in the US?
As for the 2-factor authentication, is it delivered by text message? If so then 
on your iPhone you just have to locate the button to automatically fill in the 
code which is typically available just above the on-screen keyboard on the 
left, tap it and the 2-factor code from the text message is automatically 
inserted.
 
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Subject: Visible Wireless keyboard text entry
 
Hi all:
So far I’m enjoying Visible wireless. The app is 99% usable. One annoying issue 
is with voiceover running when entering in text I’ve had other characters enter 
in that I don’t type. Work around is copying and pasting the majority of text.
I hit a snag. They now have two factor authentication and I cannot type the 
code due to text being entered in that is in addition to what I type. You 
cannot edit either. I’ve even tried with a Braille display.
No go. 
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RE: Visible Wireless keyboard text entry

2023-12-27 Thread sarai.bucciarelli
They are not knock off. They are owned by Verizon.

 

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hudson
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2023 3:42 PM
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Yes, this is one of the knockoff companies in the US. But since they are a 
virtual company, I'm sure you can sign up to them anywhere.

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On Dec 27, 2023, at 3:38 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

I assume this is a cellular provider/MVNO in the US?

As for the 2-factor authentication, is it delivered by text message? If so then 
on your iPhone you just have to locate the button to automatically fill in the 
code which is typically available just above the on-screen keyboard on the 
left, tap it and the 2-factor code from the text message is automatically 
inserted.

 

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Subject: Visible Wireless keyboard text entry

 

Hi all:

So far I’m enjoying Visible wireless. The app is 99% usable. One annoying issue 
is with voiceover running when entering in text I’ve had other characters enter 
in that I don’t type. Work around is copying and pasting the majority of text.

I hit a snag. They now have two factor authentication and I cannot type the 
code due to text being entered in that is in addition to what I type. You 
cannot edit either. I’ve even tried with a Braille display.

No go. 

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Re: Visible Wireless keyboard text entry

2023-12-27 Thread joseph hudson
Yeah, sure I guess that too. But since I've never used them, and I've only had 
a friend that used them stateside, I'm not for sure what their roaming fees 
would actually be. Some stateside companies have cheaper Roman fees than others.
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> On Dec 27, 2023, at 3:43 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> You mean anywhere if you are in the United States. Not sure what good it 
> would do to sign up from another country and then at best to use them but 
> incur roaming fees.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of joseph 
> hudson
> Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2023 1:42 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Visible Wireless keyboard text entry
>  
> Yes, this is one of the knockoff companies in the US. But since they are a 
> virtual company, I'm sure you can sign up to them anywhere.
> Joseph Hudson
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> 
> On Dec 27, 2023, at 3:38 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
>  
> I assume this is a cellular provider/MVNO in the US?
> As for the 2-factor authentication, is it delivered by text message? If so 
> then on your iPhone you just have to locate the button to automatically fill 
> in the code which is typically available just above the on-screen keyboard on 
> the left, tap it and the 2-factor code from the text message is automatically 
> inserted.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com 
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> Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Visible Wireless keyboard text entry
>  
> Hi all:
> So far I’m enjoying Visible wireless. The app is 99% usable. One annoying 
> issue is with voiceover running when entering in text I’ve had other 
> characters enter in that I don’t type. Work around is copying and pasting the 
> majority of text.
> I hit a snag. They now have two factor authentication and I cannot type the 
> code due to text being entered in that is in addition to what I type. You 
> cannot edit either. I’ve even tried with a Braille display.
> No go. 
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RE: Visible Wireless keyboard text entry

2023-12-27 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
You mean anywhere if you are in the United States. Not sure what good it would 
do to sign up from another country and then at best to use them but incur 
roaming fees.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of joseph 
hudson
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2023 1:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Visible Wireless keyboard text entry

Yes, this is one of the knockoff companies in the US. But since they are a 
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On Dec 27, 2023, at 3:38 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

I assume this is a cellular provider/MVNO in the US?
As for the 2-factor authentication, is it delivered by text message? If so then 
on your iPhone you just have to locate the button to automatically fill in the 
code which is typically available just above the on-screen keyboard on the 
left, tap it and the 2-factor code from the text message is automatically 
inserted.

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Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Visible Wireless keyboard text entry

Hi all:
So far I’m enjoying Visible wireless. The app is 99% usable. One annoying issue 
is with voiceover running when entering in text I’ve had other characters enter 
in that I don’t type. Work around is copying and pasting the majority of text.
I hit a snag. They now have two factor authentication and I cannot type the 
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Re: Visible Wireless keyboard text entry

2023-12-27 Thread joseph hudson
Yes, this is one of the knockoff companies in the US. But since they are a 
virtual company, I'm sure you can sign up to them anywhere.
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> On Dec 27, 2023, at 3:38 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> I assume this is a cellular provider/MVNO in the US?
> As for the 2-factor authentication, is it delivered by text message? If so 
> then on your iPhone you just have to locate the button to automatically fill 
> in the code which is typically available just above the on-screen keyboard on 
> the left, tap it and the 2-factor code from the text message is automatically 
> inserted.
>  
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> Subject: Visible Wireless keyboard text entry
>  
> Hi all:
> So far I’m enjoying Visible wireless. The app is 99% usable. One annoying 
> issue is with voiceover running when entering in text I’ve had other 
> characters enter in that I don’t type. Work around is copying and pasting the 
> majority of text.
> I hit a snag. They now have two factor authentication and I cannot type the 
> code due to text being entered in that is in addition to what I type. You 
> cannot edit either. I’ve even tried with a Braille display.
> No go. 
> Has anyone found work arounds?
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RE: Visible Wireless keyboard text entry

2023-12-27 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
I assume this is a cellular provider/MVNO in the US?
As for the 2-factor authentication, is it delivered by text message? If so then 
on your iPhone you just have to locate the button to automatically fill in the 
code which is typically available just above the on-screen keyboard on the 
left, tap it and the 2-factor code from the text message is automatically 
inserted.

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To: macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
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Subject: Visible Wireless keyboard text entry

Hi all:
So far I’m enjoying Visible wireless. The app is 99% usable. One annoying issue 
is with voiceover running when entering in text I’ve had other characters enter 
in that I don’t type. Work around is copying and pasting the majority of text.
I hit a snag. They now have two factor authentication and I cannot type the 
code due to text being entered in that is in addition to what I type. You 
cannot edit either. I’ve even tried with a Braille display.
No go.
Has anyone found work arounds?
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RE: Visible Wireless keyboard text entry

2023-12-27 Thread sarai.bucciarelli
What’s a super user?

I wanted to use the 35 FLASH code that expires tomorrow to get the $45 plan for 
$35.

 

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Long
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2023 2:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Visible Wireless keyboard text entry

 

i'll report this i'm a visible super user

 

 

Dennis Long

Sent from my iPhone 15 Pro Max





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Hi all:

So far I’m enjoying Visible wireless. The app is 99% usable. One annoying issue 
is with voiceover running when entering in text I’ve had other characters enter 
in that I don’t type. Work around is copying and pasting the majority of text.

I hit a snag. They now have two factor authentication and I cannot type the 
code due to text being entered in that is in addition to what I type. You 
cannot edit either. I’ve even tried with a Braille display.

No go. 

Has anyone found work arounds?

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Re: Visible Wireless keyboard text entry

2023-12-27 Thread Dennis Long
i'll report this i'm a visible super userDennis LongSent from my iPhone 15 Pro MaxOn Dec 27, 2023, at 3:43 PM, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote:Hi all:So far I’m enjoying Visible wireless. The app is 99% usable. One annoying issue is with voiceover running when entering in text I’ve had other characters enter in that I don’t type. Work around is copying and pasting the majority of text.I hit a snag. They now have two factor authentication and I cannot type the code due to text being entered in that is in addition to what I type. You cannot edit either. I’ve even tried with a Braille display.No go. Has anyone found work arounds?



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Visible Wireless keyboard text entry

2023-12-27 Thread sarai.bucciarelli
Hi all:

So far I'm enjoying Visible wireless. The app is 99% usable. One annoying
issue is with voiceover running when entering in text I've had other
characters enter in that I don't type. Work around is copying and pasting
the majority of text.

I hit a snag. They now have two factor authentication and I cannot type the
code due to text being entered in that is in addition to what I type. You
cannot edit either. I've even tried with a Braille display.

No go. 

Has anyone found work arounds?

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RE: keyboard hidden

2023-12-23 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Maybe your keyboard was on and the iPhone connected to it

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Sent: Friday, December 22, 2023 8:13 PM
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Subject: keyboard hidden

Minding my own business on the iPhone doing something I don't remember but 
probably in messages, the phone suddenly said "keyboard hidden".  and the 
keyboard was gone.  I could dictate, but could not correct.  No keyboard.  I 
retrieved the stinker by connecting my logitech k480 and pressing f3.

What makes the keyboard disappear?  How, without attaching the K480, can I 
retrieve it?

thanks much,

Ann

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keyboard hidden

2023-12-22 Thread Ann Byrne
Minding my own business on the iPhone doing something I don't 
remember but probably in messages, the phone suddenly said "keyboard 
hidden".  and the keyboard was gone.  I could dictate, but could not 
correct.  No keyboard.  I retrieved the stinker by connecting my 
logitech k480 and pressing f3.


What makes the keyboard disappear?  How, without attaching the K480, 
can I retrieve it?


thanks much,

Ann

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RE: My latest purchase of a new mechanical keyboard

2023-12-18 Thread Carolyn Arnold
I ordered a wireless keyboard, and it came last week. It was all right, only I 
could not open my PDF attachments from church. We put the wired keyboard back, 
and the first try, the attachment opened right up. So, we keep the wireless 
with keys where you can read the letters, but keep my wired one, on which 
people cannot read the worn out keys. That way, if my son works on my computer, 
he can put the wireless back on. 

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Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 2:30 PM
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Subject: Re: My latest purchase of a new mechanical keyboard

If you are going to order those switches, I'd ask someone if you can make the 
change with that keyboard before ordering them.  Why waste your money for 
something you can't use?

Dave




On 12/10/2023 4:31 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:


During black Friday I ended up buying a Keychron K10 pro mechanical 
keyboard because I recently had come across a few reviews of that brand.

In short, I am going to keep it since it is highly customizable and I 
want to play around with it, as it is out of the box I am not entirely happy 
with it, but it is mainly because of the type of switches it uses and the 
typing feel they provide. Here is a more detailed description:

 

you can use this keyboard in wired mode where you connect it to your 
computer with a USB-C cable, but you can also switch it to Bluetooth mode to 
use it with your iPhone, Android phone or a laptop or of course a desktop 
provided it has Bluetooth. The switch is a slider on the back left of the 
keyboard, to the left it is wired, in the middle it is off and to the right is 
Bluetooth. 

It then has a second slider switch which changes the layout from 
Windows/Android to Mac/iOS, left is Mac/iOS and right is Windows/Android.

When I looked up how to put it in pairing mode online, the instruction 
said to of course switch it to Bluetooth mode and then to press the FN key + 1 
on the number row for 4 seconds.

I felt the keys before and noticed a standard layout with Control, 
Windows Key and Alt on the left side of the spacebar and Alt, Windows Key, what 
I assume was an application key and Control on the right.

So I took a picture of the keys near the bottom with Be My Eyes and it 
told me that the picture was of a mechanical keyboard with several keys 
visible. I think it mentioned some of the key labels, I then sent a message 
asking if there was an FN key and the reply came back promptly “Yes, there is a 
FN key on the right side between the Windows Key and the Control Key”. Man, I 
really love this Be My AI service! In other words what I thought was the 
application key was in fact the FN key.

And for those who may wonder, no there is no application key, a Windows 
key on each side of the spacebar yes, but no application/context menu key.

However, in addition to the typical F1 to F12 keys on the top and the 
Printscreen, Scroll Lock and Pause keys to the right of the F-Keys, there is in 
fact an F13, F14, F15 and F16 key which are above the numeric pad.

These can be programmed. However, this is as far as I can tell not an 
accessible process as an application called "VIA" is used for this and one has 
to drag whatever you want the key to do to the key.

In fact, you can completely assign anything to any key including macros 
and in addition to that the keyboard can be completely customized with whatever 
mechanical switches you want to use.

The version I bought from Amazon Canada for a sale price of $109 
Canadian comes with Gateron switches and I believe they are the Linear Brown 
switches. It's wonderful typing, very quiet, but I think for my taste they are 
too sensitive and often even lightly resting my fingers on the F and J may end 
up putting one of them into my text. It's also very easy to type say a "ds" if 
all you wanted was a "d" if you are not a very precise typist. In the end I 
will most likely order either a set of Gateron switches which are more 
equivalent to a Cherry MX Blue wjhich is a more clicky switch and requires a 
bit more force before it registers. The nice thing is that you can use actual 
Cherry MX switches in that keyboard in addition to the somewhat less exxpensive 
Gateron switches and you can even use KAILH switches. How easy it is to 
disassemble the keyboard, pull the switches and reinstall the others I don't 
know, bvut my store manager is a very handy person so I'll probably get him to 
do it or at least show me in case I could do it.

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

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Re: My latest purchase of a new mechanical keyboard

2023-12-17 Thread David Grossoehme
If you are going to order those switches, I'd ask someone if you can 
make the change with that keyboard before ordering them.  Why waste your 
money for something you can't use?


Dave


On 12/10/2023 4:31 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:


During black Friday I ended up buying a Keychron K10 pro mechanical 
keyboard because I recently had come across a few reviews of that brand.


In short, I am going to keep it since it is highly customizable and I 
want to play around with it, as it is out of the box I am not entirely 
happy with it, but it is mainly because of the type of switches it 
uses and the typing feel they provide. Here is a more detailed 
description:


you can use this keyboard in wired mode where you connect it to your 
computer with a USB-C cable, but you can also switch it to Bluetooth 
mode to use it with your iPhone, Android phone or a laptop or of 
course a desktop provided it has Bluetooth. The switch is a slider on 
the back left of the keyboard, to the left it is wired, in the middle 
it is off and to the right is Bluetooth.


It then has a second slider switch which changes the layout from 
Windows/Android to Mac/iOS, left is Mac/iOS and right is Windows/Android.


When I looked up how to put it in pairing mode online, the instruction 
said to of course switch it to Bluetooth mode and then to press the FN 
key + 1 on the number row for 4 seconds.


I felt the keys before and noticed a standard layout with Control, 
Windows Key and Alt on the left side of the spacebar and Alt, Windows 
Key, what I assume was an application key and Control on the right.


So I took a picture of the keys near the bottom with Be My Eyes and it 
told me that the picture was of a mechanical keyboard with several 
keys visible. I think it mentioned some of the key labels, I then sent 
a message asking if there was an FN key and the reply came back 
promptly “Yes, there is a FN key on the right side between the Windows 
Key and the Control Key”. Man, I really love this Be My AI service! In 
other words what I thought was the application key was in fact the FN key.


And for those who may wonder, no there is no application key, a 
Windows key on each side of the spacebar yes, but no 
application/context menu key.


However, in addition to the typical F1 to F12 keys on the top and the 
Printscreen, Scroll Lock and Pause keys to the right of the F-Keys, 
there is in fact an F13, F14, F15 and F16 key which are above the 
numeric pad.


These can be programmed. However, this is as far as I can tell not an 
accessible process as an application called "VIA" is used for this and 
one has to drag whatever you want the key to do to the key.


In fact, you can completely assign anything to any key including 
macros and in addition to that the keyboard can be completely 
customized with whatever mechanical switches you want to use.


The version I bought from Amazon Canada for a sale price of $109 
Canadian comes with Gateron switches and I believe they are the Linear 
Brown switches. It's wonderful typing, very quiet, but I think for my 
taste they are too sensitive and often even lightly resting my fingers 
on the F and J may end up putting one of them into my text. It's also 
very easy to type say a "ds" if all you wanted was a "d" if you are 
not a very precise typist. In the end I will most likely order either 
a set of Gateron switches which are more equivalent to a Cherry MX 
Blue wjhich is a more clicky switch and requires a bit more force 
before it registers. The nice thing is that you can use actual Cherry 
MX switches in that keyboard in addition to the somewhat less 
exxpensive Gateron switches and you can even use KAILH switches. How 
easy it is to disassemble the keyboard, pull the switches and 
reinstall the others I don't know, bvut my store manager is a very 
handy person so I'll probably get him to do it or at least show me in 
case I could do it.


Best regards,

Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Andrew J LaPointe

Sent: Saturday, December 9, 2023 1:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: App to see power light?

Good afternoon Richard, I have the color identifier that also has a 
light detector. That part works quite well. I also for $25 got a 
keychain type of light detector from laws actually not loves it was 
the tech guys. That works quite well. also small enough to keep in 
your pocket of purse or whatever you’re using. so those two are 
standalone. Anyway, good luck.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 9, 2023, at 12:39 PM, Richard  
wrote:


>

> Kim,

>

> I am terribly sorry for your loss and I send thoughts and prayers in 
your late husband's memory and for you  in difficult times. Surely 
these small things such as checking lights can become  quite big 
without assistance. I have the hope you will soon have a simple solution.


>

> My experience is tha

Re: My latest purchase of a new mechanical keyboard

2023-12-17 Thread Esther Levegnale
I have the Apple Magic keyboard and absolutely love it!  I've had it for years.Anyway, I hope all of you have a good day!EstherSent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!On Dec 10, 2023, at 4:31 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







During black Friday I ended up buying a Keychron K10 pro mechanical keyboard because I recently had come across a few reviews of that brand.
In short, I am going to keep it since it is highly customizable and I want to play around with it, as it is out of the box I am not entirely happy with it, but it is mainly because of the type of switches it uses and the typing feel they
 provide. Here is a more detailed description:
 
you can use this keyboard in wired mode where you connect it to your computer with a USB-C cable, but you can also switch it to Bluetooth mode to use it with your iPhone, Android phone or a laptop or of course a desktop provided it has
 Bluetooth. The switch is a slider on the back left of the keyboard, to the left it is wired, in the middle it is off and to the right is Bluetooth.

It then has a second slider switch which changes the layout from Windows/Android to Mac/iOS, left is Mac/iOS and right is Windows/Android.
When I looked up how to put it in pairing mode online, the instruction said to of course switch it to Bluetooth mode and then to press the FN key + 1 on the number row for 4 seconds.
I felt the keys before and noticed a standard layout with Control, Windows Key and Alt on the left side of the spacebar and Alt, Windows Key, what I assume was an application key and Control on the right.
So I took a picture of the keys near the bottom with Be My Eyes and it told me that the picture was of a mechanical keyboard with several keys visible. I think it mentioned some of the key labels, I then sent a message asking if there
 was an FN key and the reply came back promptly “Yes, there is a FN key on the right side between the Windows Key and the Control Key”. Man, I really love this Be My AI service! In other words what I thought was the application key was in fact the FN key.
And for those who may wonder, no there is no application key, a Windows key on each side of the spacebar yes, but no application/context menu key.
However, in addition to the typical F1 to F12 keys on the top and the Printscreen, Scroll Lock and Pause keys to the right of the F-Keys, there is in fact an F13, F14, F15 and F16 key which are above the numeric pad.
These can be programmed. However, this is as far as I can tell not an accessible process as an application called "VIA" is used for this and one has to drag whatever you want the key to do to the key.
In fact, you can completely assign anything to any key including macros and in addition to that the keyboard can be completely customized with whatever mechanical switches you want to use.
The version I bought from Amazon Canada for a sale price of $109 Canadian comes with Gateron switches and I believe they are the Linear Brown switches. It's wonderful typing, very quiet, but I think for my taste they are too sensitive
 and often even lightly resting my fingers on the F and J may end up putting one of them into my text. It's also very easy to type say a "ds" if all you wanted was a "d" if you are not a very precise typist. In the end I will most likely order either a set
 of Gateron switches which are more equivalent to a Cherry MX Blue wjhich is a more clicky switch and requires a bit more force before it registers. The nice thing is that you can use actual Cherry MX switches in that keyboard in addition to the somewhat less
 exxpensive Gateron switches and you can even use KAILH switches. How easy it is to disassemble the keyboard, pull the switches and reinstall the others I don't know, bvut my store manager is a very handy person so I'll probably get him to do it or at least
 show me in case I could do it.
 
Best regards,
Sieghard
 
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Andrew J LaPointe
Sent: Saturday, December 9, 2023 1:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: App to see power light?
 
Good afternoon Richard, I have the color identifier that also has a light detector. That part works quite well. I also for $25 got a keychain type of light detector from laws actually not loves it was the tech guys. That works quite
 well. also small enough to keep in your pocket of purse or whatever you’re using. so those two are standalone. Anyway, good luck.

Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Dec 9, 2023, at 12:39 PM, Richard <richard.pe...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
> Kim,
> 
> I am terribly sorry for your loss and I send thoughts and prayers in your late husband's memory and for you  in difficult times. Surely these small things such as checking lights can become  quite big without assistance. I have the
 hope you will soon have a simple  solution.
> 
> My experien

Re: IOS Keyboard Commands for iPhone

2023-12-12 Thread Mike B.
See if this helps:

Following is a list of key commands with a more detailed list of the 
function keys.

Logitech K380 bluetooth keyboard and iOS 16

Function keys:
Control keys:
FN Keys:
Option keys:
Net Quick navigation keys on:
Text Quick navigation keys off:
Text editing:
VO keys:

all latest V O commands: Settings/Accessibility/Voiceover/Commands/keyboard 
shortcuts

try out keys with iOS help, vo k esc esc to exit help.,

Function keys:
Escape
F1 F2 F3 connect to different devices with bluetooth.
F4  tap, exits app or goes to home top of screen one.
F4 press twice invokes app switcher
F4 press three times turns off/on voice over
F5 goes to first item of current screen.
F6not defined.
F7 appears same as F4
F8. previous audeo track.
F9 play pause
F10 not assigned
F11 mute/unmute
F12 volume down
insert / Speaker volume up
Delete key

Control keys:
 go to top of screen or top when inside app. same Four Finger Tap in
the upper part of the screen. control up arrow,
go to right bottom of screen music, or bottom when inside app.four finger 
tap lower screen. control down arrow,
go to screen bottom left phone. control right arrow
 mute/ unmute. control F11 or just F11

FN Keys:
copy, cut and paste.   fn plus c, x v,
lock screen. FN l
next heading. fn key h
search box. fn keyS
table. fn key T
take screen image. FN key plus tab
text field. fn key r

Option keys:
insert blank line in text. option enter. shift enter. just enter.
next page.  equivalent to three finger swipe left. option right arrow
previous page and today view. equivalent to three finger swipe right. option 
left arrow
spotlight from main screen. option up arrow

Net Quick navigation keys on:
turn On / off. VO Q
Single-key Quick Nav for web browsing. To navigate a webpage quickly, turn 
on Quick Nav (VO-Q), then press keys on the keyboard to navigate to specific
item types, such as headings or links. To move to the previous item, hold 
the Shift key as you press a key for the item type.
Item type
 Heading. H
Link. L
Text field. R
Button. B
Form control. C
 Image. I
 Table. T
Static text. S
ARIA landmark. W
List. X
Item of the same type. M
Level 1 6 heading. 1 2 3 4 5 6

Text Quick navigation keys off:
Use these following commands (with Quick Nav turned off) to work with text. 
VoiceOver reads the text as you move the insertion point.
Go forward or back one character. Right Arrow or Left Arrow
Go up or down one line. Up Arrow or Down Arrow

Go forward or back one word. Option-Right Arrow or Option-Left Arrow
Go to the beginning or end of the paragraph. Option-Up Arrow or Option-Down 
Arrow
Go to the previous or next paragraph. Option-Up Arrow or Option-Down Arrow

Go to the beginning or end of the line. Command-Left Arrow or Command-right 
Arrow
Go to the top or bottom of the text field. Command-Up Arrow or Command-Down 
Arrow
Select all text. Command-A

 Select text as you move.Shift + any of the insertion point movement 
commands above

Copy, cut, or paste the selected text. Command-C, Command-X, or Command-V
Undo or redo last change. Command-Z or Shift-Command-Z

Text editing:

activate icon, button or text field. press up / down arrows together.  one 
finger double tap or VO space
next item same as flick right. right arrow
previous item same as flick left. left arrow
select rotor item within option: up/down arrow

VO keys:
activate icon. VO spacebar.
Change the label of the selected item. VO-/
change rotor item: VO command left/right arrow. also up arrow with 
left/right
Copy the last spoken text to the clipboard. VO-Shift-C
double tap and hold. VO shift m
help. VO k
Home. VO H

magic tap VO dash
Move Focus to the Status Bar. VO M
Move Focus to the notifications centre. VO m status bar then Option + up 
ARROW:
Move focus to the control centreVO m status bar then Option + down ARROW:
move to next / previous element. VO r/l arrow.
move to linked item. VO j
next previous  character V O shift right left arrow

read character VO c
read character phonetically VO c twice
read  from current position VO a
read from top VO b
read line. VO l
read row header VO r
read text style VO t
read word VO w
read word, spelling and  phonetically. press VO w more than once

text find. vo f
text next search result - VO g

screen curtain toggle. VO shift F12or three fingers three taps

show item choser. VO i

toggle mute VO s or control F11
toggle single letter quick nav. VO q
Voice over settings. VO V.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.

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To: undisclosed-recipients:
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2023 4:15 PM
Subject: IOS Keyboard Commands for iPhone


Hello,
I have been trying to look for a complete, or at least, a
comprehensive list of Keyboard commands when using the iPhone. I have
a partial list, but I am looking for a full list. I have a Logitech
k380 keyboard that I'm using with my iPhone.
Any help?

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IOS Keyboard Commands for iPhone

2023-12-12 Thread Tom Cramer
Hello,
I have been trying to look for a complete, or at least, a
comprehensive list of Keyboard commands when using the iPhone. I have
a partial list, but I am looking for a full list. I have a Logitech
k380 keyboard that I'm using with my iPhone.
Any help?

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RE: My latest purchase of a new mechanical keyboard

2023-12-11 Thread Carolyn Arnold
My new Logitech wireless has no Applications key; I just use Shift+F10. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2023 8:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My latest purchase of a new mechanical keyboard

Sounds a little complicated for my taste.  When I bought my current computer, I 
bought a standard USB keyboard from my local computer repair store that is 
working just fine.  I wouldn't want a keyboard with no applications key.  I use 
that key all the time for my context menus.

On 12/10/23, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> During black Friday I ended up buying a Keychron K10 pro mechanical 
> keyboard because I recently had come across a few reviews of that brand.
> In short, I am going to keep it since it is highly customizable and I 
> want to play around with it, as it is out of the box I am not entirely 
> happy with it, but it is mainly because of the type of switches it 
> uses and the typing feel they provide. Here is a more detailed description:
>
>
>
> you can use this keyboard in wired mode where you connect it to your 
> computer with a USB-C cable, but you can also switch it to Bluetooth 
> mode to use it with your iPhone, Android phone or a laptop or of 
> course a desktop provided it has Bluetooth. The switch is a slider on 
> the back left of the keyboard, to the left it is wired, in the middle 
> it is off and to the right is Bluetooth.
>
> It then has a second slider switch which changes the layout from 
> Windows/Android to Mac/iOS, left is Mac/iOS and right is Windows/Android.
>
> When I looked up how to put it in pairing mode online, the instruction 
> said to of course switch it to Bluetooth mode and then to press the FN 
> key + 1 on the number row for 4 seconds.
>
> I felt the keys before and noticed a standard layout with Control, 
> Windows Key and Alt on the left side of the spacebar and Alt, Windows 
> Key, what I assume was an application key and Control on the right.
>
> So I took a picture of the keys near the bottom with Be My Eyes and it 
> told me that the picture was of a mechanical keyboard with several keys 
> visible.
> I think it mentioned some of the key labels, I then sent a message 
> asking if there was an FN key and the reply came back promptly “Yes, 
> there is a FN key on the right side between the Windows Key and the 
> Control Key”. Man, I really love this Be My AI service! In other words 
> what I thought was the application key was in fact the FN key.
>
> And for those who may wonder, no there is no application key, a 
> Windows key on each side of the spacebar yes, but no application/context menu 
> key.
>
> However, in addition to the typical F1 to F12 keys on the top and the 
> Printscreen, Scroll Lock and Pause keys to the right of the F-Keys, 
> there is in fact an F13, F14, F15 and F16 key which are above the numeric pad.
>
> These can be programmed. However, this is as far as I can tell not an 
> accessible process as an application called "VIA" is used for this and 
> one has to drag whatever you want the key to do to the key.
>
> In fact, you can completely assign anything to any key including 
> macros and in addition to that the keyboard can be completely 
> customized with whatever mechanical switches you want to use.
>
> The version I bought from Amazon Canada for a sale price of $109 
> Canadian comes with Gateron switches and I believe they are the Linear 
> Brown switches. It's wonderful typing, very quiet, but I think for my 
> taste they are too sensitive and often even lightly resting my fingers 
> on the F and J may end up putting one of them into my text. It's also 
> very easy to type say a "ds" if all you wanted was a "d" if you are 
> not a very precise typist. In the end I will most likely order either 
> a set of Gateron switches which are more equivalent to a Cherry MX 
> Blue wjhich is a more clicky switch and requires a bit more force 
> before it registers. The nice thing is that you can use actual Cherry 
> MX switches in that keyboard in addition to the somewhat less 
> exxpensive Gateron switches and you can even use KAILH switches. How 
> easy it is to disassemble the keyboard, pull the switches and 
> reinstall the others I don't know, bvut my store manager is a very 
> handy person so I'll probably get him to do it or at least show me in case I 
> could do it.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Sieghard
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf 
> Of Andrew J LaPointe
> Sent: Saturday, December 9, 

Re: My latest purchase of a new mechanical keyboard

2023-12-10 Thread Joshua Hendrickson
I have no interest in using a bluetooth headset with my windows
computer.  I use a USB headset if I need it for things like zoom
calls.  I like my apple airpods max, because I use them to listen to
audio dramas as well.  My problem with those high end wired headsets,
is you usually need a dongle, some kind of DAC thing to make them
sound their best.

On 12/10/23, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> It is complicated in a way, but if you spend 6 days a week and between 6 and
> 12 hours a day on the computer because that is what I do for my business
> then looking for something which lasts more than a year makes sense.
> Yes, I can get a $25 Usb keyboard and I could throw it out every year and
> get a new one and it would take around 5 years strictly from a money
> perspective to justify the more expensive one, but you can say the same for
> many things.
> If I remember, for example, you have an Apple Airpod Max headset which here
> in Canada cost North of $700 and I would never even consider spending that
> on a headset. If I did consider it I'd buy a wired high-end audio file
> headset where even one which costs half that much would give me better
> sound.
> If I use a headset I listen to audio books 99% of the time, at work I don't
> use a headset or if I do it's very seldom and at home with my laptop I use a
> $49 Creative Jam V2 headset paired to an Avantree low-latency Bluetooth
> receiver because I go crazy using a "regular" bluetooth keyboard where
> latency is always an issue and yes, even with your super-expensive Airpods
> Max it's an issue and in any case, from what I heard they don't play nice
> with a Windows PC to begin with.
> Anyhow, everybody uses what they feel gives them the best experience. I also
> have a couple of Das Keyboard 4 Professional mechanical keyboards which cost
> twice of what the Keychron cost and you don't have any of the customization
> options. They are also very good, but sometimes fiddling around a bit to
> possibly find something which is truly outstanding is a good idea and if I
> really like the Keychron K10 with a different set of switches then next time
> I either order it that way or I order the bare bones version, e.g. just the
> keyboard without switches and key caps and then order those to my liking
> which you can do with Keychron.
> Having said all that, I just visited an old blind friend in Ontario when I
> was there to attend a trade show. He used to work at the University of
> Western Ontario when I was a student there in my first year in 1989/1990. He
> is now in his early 70's and retired and he is mostly at home, playing
> guitar with a few buddies and messing around on his phone or computer. I
> should mention that he hasn't used a Mac or iPhone in his life and he hasn't
> used a Windows PC in forever. He is strictly a Linux guy and in his living
> room he has a little Raspeberry Pie with eSpeak on it and I guess he uses
> that as his media server. I have been using computers since the DOS and Jaws
> for DOS days in the late 90's and with an Accent synthesizer at the time
> which was maybe more like eSpeak than Eloquence. But he had the thing set so
> fast that even I could barely understand anything; he loves to tinker around
> and that is his thing. Like I said to each their own. I personally prefer my
> Sonos system where along with the Sonos iOS app I get a polished and
> accessible experience out of the box and I prefer to spend the money each
> month for Apple Music and while I did at one point rip my 250 o rso CD's to
> a hard drive in FLAC format (before I sold them all), I rarely bother with
> that because why would I if I can just ask Apple Music to play anything I
> want. And if I want to listen to really high fidelity music I go downstairs
> and fire up my Sonic Frontiers tube amp and the other stuff which is part of
> that system and which I bought in the mid 90's for what people paid for a
> brand new car; let's just say it was a lot more than $10,000 and still a
> fair bit less than $50,000. At times I wish I could sell this system to
> somebody for $10 or $15 grant where it would have a good home and get used a
> lot more than it does nowadays in my house, but it's so customized with
> custom speakers built by a brilliant yet unknown audio engineer in Calgary
> that I would not get a lot for it. I could probably sell the Sonic Frontiers
> Power 2 amp,, the Sonic Frontiers DA-2 DAC and the Bryston 4NRB amp which
> drives the subwoofers fairly easily, but then what would I do with the
> speakers and subwoofers which back then alone were $10,000 (all Canadian
> Dollars).
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Su

RE: My latest purchase of a new mechanical keyboard

2023-12-10 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
It is complicated in a way, but if you spend 6 days a week and between 6 and 12 
hours a day on the computer because that is what I do for my business then 
looking for something which lasts more than a year makes sense.
Yes, I can get a $25 Usb keyboard and I could throw it out every year and get a 
new one and it would take around 5 years strictly from a money perspective to 
justify the more expensive one, but you can say the same for many things.
If I remember, for example, you have an Apple Airpod Max headset which here in 
Canada cost North of $700 and I would never even consider spending that on a 
headset. If I did consider it I'd buy a wired high-end audio file headset where 
even one which costs half that much would give me better sound.
If I use a headset I listen to audio books 99% of the time, at work I don't use 
a headset or if I do it's very seldom and at home with my laptop I use a $49 
Creative Jam V2 headset paired to an Avantree low-latency Bluetooth receiver 
because I go crazy using a "regular" bluetooth keyboard where latency is always 
an issue and yes, even with your super-expensive Airpods Max it's an issue and 
in any case, from what I heard they don't play nice with a Windows PC to begin 
with.
Anyhow, everybody uses what they feel gives them the best experience. I also 
have a couple of Das Keyboard 4 Professional mechanical keyboards which cost 
twice of what the Keychron cost and you don't have any of the customization 
options. They are also very good, but sometimes fiddling around a bit to 
possibly find something which is truly outstanding is a good idea and if I 
really like the Keychron K10 with a different set of switches then next time I 
either order it that way or I order the bare bones version, e.g. just the 
keyboard without switches and key caps and then order those to my liking which 
you can do with Keychron.
Having said all that, I just visited an old blind friend in Ontario when I was 
there to attend a trade show. He used to work at the University of Western 
Ontario when I was a student there in my first year in 1989/1990. He is now in 
his early 70's and retired and he is mostly at home, playing guitar with a few 
buddies and messing around on his phone or computer. I should mention that he 
hasn't used a Mac or iPhone in his life and he hasn't used a Windows PC in 
forever. He is strictly a Linux guy and in his living room he has a little 
Raspeberry Pie with eSpeak on it and I guess he uses that as his media server. 
I have been using computers since the DOS and Jaws for DOS days in the late 
90's and with an Accent synthesizer at the time which was maybe more like 
eSpeak than Eloquence. But he had the thing set so fast that even I could 
barely understand anything; he loves to tinker around and that is his thing. 
Like I said to each their own. I personally prefer my Sonos system where along 
with the Sonos iOS app I get a polished and accessible experience out of the 
box and I prefer to spend the money each month for Apple Music and while I did 
at one point rip my 250 o rso CD's to a hard drive in FLAC format (before I 
sold them all), I rarely bother with that because why would I if I can just ask 
Apple Music to play anything I want. And if I want to listen to really high 
fidelity music I go downstairs and fire up my Sonic Frontiers tube amp and the 
other stuff which is part of that system and which I bought in the mid 90's for 
what people paid for a brand new car; let's just say it was a lot more than 
$10,000 and still a fair bit less than $50,000. At times I wish I could sell 
this system to somebody for $10 or $15 grant where it would have a good home 
and get used a lot more than it does nowadays in my house, but it's so 
customized with custom speakers built by a brilliant yet unknown audio engineer 
in Calgary that I would not get a lot for it. I could probably sell the Sonic 
Frontiers Power 2 amp,, the Sonic Frontiers DA-2 DAC and the Bryston 4NRB amp 
which drives the subwoofers fairly easily, but then what would I do with the 
speakers and subwoofers which back then alone were $10,000 (all Canadian 
Dollars).

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2023 5:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My latest purchase of a new mechanical keyboard

Sounds a little complicated for my taste.  When I bought my current computer, I 
bought a standard USB keyboard from my local computer repair store that is 
working just fine.  I wouldn't want a keyboard with no applications key.  I use 
that key all the time for my context menus.

On 12/10/23, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> During black Friday I ended up buying a Keychron K10 pro mechanical 
> keyboard because I recently had come across a few reviews of that brand.
> In short, I am going to keep it since it is highl

Re: My latest purchase of a new mechanical keyboard

2023-12-10 Thread Joshua Hendrickson
Sounds a little complicated for my taste.  When I bought my current
computer, I bought a standard USB keyboard from my local computer
repair store that is working just fine.  I wouldn't want a keyboard
with no applications key.  I use that key all the time for my context
menus.

On 12/10/23, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> During black Friday I ended up buying a Keychron K10 pro mechanical keyboard
> because I recently had come across a few reviews of that brand.
> In short, I am going to keep it since it is highly customizable and I want
> to play around with it, as it is out of the box I am not entirely happy with
> it, but it is mainly because of the type of switches it uses and the typing
> feel they provide. Here is a more detailed description:
>
>
>
> you can use this keyboard in wired mode where you connect it to your
> computer with a USB-C cable, but you can also switch it to Bluetooth mode to
> use it with your iPhone, Android phone or a laptop or of course a desktop
> provided it has Bluetooth. The switch is a slider on the back left of the
> keyboard, to the left it is wired, in the middle it is off and to the right
> is Bluetooth.
>
> It then has a second slider switch which changes the layout from
> Windows/Android to Mac/iOS, left is Mac/iOS and right is Windows/Android.
>
> When I looked up how to put it in pairing mode online, the instruction said
> to of course switch it to Bluetooth mode and then to press the FN key + 1 on
> the number row for 4 seconds.
>
> I felt the keys before and noticed a standard layout with Control, Windows
> Key and Alt on the left side of the spacebar and Alt, Windows Key, what I
> assume was an application key and Control on the right.
>
> So I took a picture of the keys near the bottom with Be My Eyes and it told
> me that the picture was of a mechanical keyboard with several keys visible.
> I think it mentioned some of the key labels, I then sent a message asking if
> there was an FN key and the reply came back promptly “Yes, there is a FN key
> on the right side between the Windows Key and the Control Key”. Man, I
> really love this Be My AI service! In other words what I thought was the
> application key was in fact the FN key.
>
> And for those who may wonder, no there is no application key, a Windows key
> on each side of the spacebar yes, but no application/context menu key.
>
> However, in addition to the typical F1 to F12 keys on the top and the
> Printscreen, Scroll Lock and Pause keys to the right of the F-Keys, there is
> in fact an F13, F14, F15 and F16 key which are above the numeric pad.
>
> These can be programmed. However, this is as far as I can tell not an
> accessible process as an application called "VIA" is used for this and one
> has to drag whatever you want the key to do to the key.
>
> In fact, you can completely assign anything to any key including macros and
> in addition to that the keyboard can be completely customized with whatever
> mechanical switches you want to use.
>
> The version I bought from Amazon Canada for a sale price of $109 Canadian
> comes with Gateron switches and I believe they are the Linear Brown
> switches. It's wonderful typing, very quiet, but I think for my taste they
> are too sensitive and often even lightly resting my fingers on the F and J
> may end up putting one of them into my text. It's also very easy to type say
> a "ds" if all you wanted was a "d" if you are not a very precise typist. In
> the end I will most likely order either a set of Gateron switches which are
> more equivalent to a Cherry MX Blue wjhich is a more clicky switch and
> requires a bit more force before it registers. The nice thing is that you
> can use actual Cherry MX switches in that keyboard in addition to the
> somewhat less exxpensive Gateron switches and you can even use KAILH
> switches. How easy it is to disassemble the keyboard, pull the switches and
> reinstall the others I don't know, bvut my store manager is a very handy
> person so I'll probably get him to do it or at least show me in case I could
> do it.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Sieghard
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
> Andrew J LaPointe
> Sent: Saturday, December 9, 2023 1:26 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: App to see power light?
>
>
>
> Good afternoon Richard, I have the color identifier that also has a light
> detector. That part works quite well. I also for $25 got a keychain type of
> light detector from laws actually not loves it was the tech guys. That works
> q

My latest purchase of a new mechanical keyboard

2023-12-10 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
During black Friday I ended up buying a Keychron K10 pro mechanical keyboard 
because I recently had come across a few reviews of that brand.
In short, I am going to keep it since it is highly customizable and I want to 
play around with it, as it is out of the box I am not entirely happy with it, 
but it is mainly because of the type of switches it uses and the typing feel 
they provide. Here is a more detailed description:



you can use this keyboard in wired mode where you connect it to your computer 
with a USB-C cable, but you can also switch it to Bluetooth mode to use it with 
your iPhone, Android phone or a laptop or of course a desktop provided it has 
Bluetooth. The switch is a slider on the back left of the keyboard, to the left 
it is wired, in the middle it is off and to the right is Bluetooth.

It then has a second slider switch which changes the layout from 
Windows/Android to Mac/iOS, left is Mac/iOS and right is Windows/Android.

When I looked up how to put it in pairing mode online, the instruction said to 
of course switch it to Bluetooth mode and then to press the FN key + 1 on the 
number row for 4 seconds.

I felt the keys before and noticed a standard layout with Control, Windows Key 
and Alt on the left side of the spacebar and Alt, Windows Key, what I assume 
was an application key and Control on the right.

So I took a picture of the keys near the bottom with Be My Eyes and it told me 
that the picture was of a mechanical keyboard with several keys visible. I 
think it mentioned some of the key labels, I then sent a message asking if 
there was an FN key and the reply came back promptly “Yes, there is a FN key on 
the right side between the Windows Key and the Control Key”. Man, I really love 
this Be My AI service! In other words what I thought was the application key 
was in fact the FN key.

And for those who may wonder, no there is no application key, a Windows key on 
each side of the spacebar yes, but no application/context menu key.

However, in addition to the typical F1 to F12 keys on the top and the 
Printscreen, Scroll Lock and Pause keys to the right of the F-Keys, there is in 
fact an F13, F14, F15 and F16 key which are above the numeric pad.

These can be programmed. However, this is as far as I can tell not an 
accessible process as an application called "VIA" is used for this and one has 
to drag whatever you want the key to do to the key.

In fact, you can completely assign anything to any key including macros and in 
addition to that the keyboard can be completely customized with whatever 
mechanical switches you want to use.

The version I bought from Amazon Canada for a sale price of $109 Canadian comes 
with Gateron switches and I believe they are the Linear Brown switches. It's 
wonderful typing, very quiet, but I think for my taste they are too sensitive 
and often even lightly resting my fingers on the F and J may end up putting one 
of them into my text. It's also very easy to type say a "ds" if all you wanted 
was a "d" if you are not a very precise typist. In the end I will most likely 
order either a set of Gateron switches which are more equivalent to a Cherry MX 
Blue wjhich is a more clicky switch and requires a bit more force before it 
registers. The nice thing is that you can use actual Cherry MX switches in that 
keyboard in addition to the somewhat less exxpensive Gateron switches and you 
can even use KAILH switches. How easy it is to disassemble the keyboard, pull 
the switches and reinstall the others I don't know, bvut my store manager is a 
very handy person so I'll probably get him to do it or at least show me in case 
I could do it.



Best regards,

Sieghard



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Andrew 
J LaPointe
Sent: Saturday, December 9, 2023 1:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: App to see power light?



Good afternoon Richard, I have the color identifier that also has a light 
detector. That part works quite well. I also for $25 got a keychain type of 
light detector from laws actually not loves it was the tech guys. That works 
quite well. also small enough to keep in your pocket of purse or whatever 
you’re using. so those two are standalone. Anyway, good luck.

Sent from my iPhone



> On Dec 9, 2023, at 12:39 PM, Richard 
> mailto:richard.pe...@earthlink.net>> wrote:

>

> Kim,

>

> I am terribly sorry for your loss and I send thoughts and prayers in your 
> late husband's memory and for you  in difficult times. Surely these small 
> things such as checking lights can become  quite big without assistance. I 
> have the hope you will soon have a simple  solution.

>

> My experience is that iPhone apps aren't as good as  the light probes that 
> once were av

RE: Portable keyboard for ipad mini 6th gen

2023-12-05 Thread Dennis Long
I recommend the orbit writer keyboard.
 
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the Logitech 380 is a good, small keyboard. Here is the Amazon link
 
 
Logitech K380 Multi-Device Bluetooth Keyboard - Windows, Mac, Chrome OS, 
Android, iPad, iPhone, Apple TV Compatible - with Flow Cross-Computer Control 
 
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Since a 14 cell Braille display is currently not in my budget, can anyone 
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RE: Portable keyboard for ipad mini 6th gen

2023-12-03 Thread Dennis Long
The Orbit writer is a good keyboard.
 
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RE: Portable keyboard for ipad mini 6th gen

2023-12-03 Thread realman02 via VIPhone
the Logitech 380 is a good, small keyboard. Here is the Amazon link

 

 

Logitech K380 Multi-Device Bluetooth Keyboard - Windows, Mac, Chrome OS, 
Android, iPad, iPhone, Apple TV Compatible - with Flow Cross-Computer Control 

 

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I picked up an iPad mini 6th gen 256GB tablet for myself on Thanksgiving. Merry 
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Portable keyboard for ipad mini 6th gen

2023-12-03 Thread sarai.bucciarelli
All:

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Keyboard question

2023-11-19 Thread 'Louana Sterling' via VIPhone
Has anyone here used this keyboard? If so reviews please. Other good keyboards 
to use?The "Matias Wireless Aluminum Tenkeyless Keyboard - Silver" is a slim, 
aluminum, wireless keyboard with a similar layout to the familiar Apple 
Wireless Keyboard. It has two features that enhance your experience compared to 
the regular Apple Wireless Keyboard:

1. It has a rechargeable battery with a typical battery life of 1 year before 
needing charging.

2. It has the ability to pair to three devices at the same time, and easily 
switch between the three devices with the press of a button. Now you can use 
the same beautiful, great-feeling keyboard for your Mac, iPad, iPhone, Android, 
or PC; the keyboard even pairs with the optimal layout for each type of device, 
so when you switch between devices, the keyboard layout is what you expect.


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RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

2023-10-24 Thread chrisjudge1967
I did on my older apple Tv. The one in the bedroom is the newer generation and 
I will check that one out tomorrow.

 

Thanks.

 

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Kriegler
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2023 6:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

Hi Chris,

Sorry to hear this. Have you checked for any system updates? For the gentleman 
who asked about the operating system, I am using TVOS 17.0 21J 354.

Best,

 

Les

 

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Subject: RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

Hi. I just tried it with the Arteck Bluetooth keyboard and it still isn’t 
working. If I hold alt and control I can navigate across with the arrow keys 
but I can’t move up and down. I don’t have a Logitech keyboard to try. I’ll try 
my apple magic keyboard later.

 

Chris Judge

 



 

 



 

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Subject: RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

Hi Chris and All,

The issue with using the keyboard with one’s Apple TV has been fixed. The arrow 
keys by themselves can now be used. Thus far, I have tested with the Logitech 
K380, but I suspect other keyboards should now work.

Best,

 

Les

 

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Subject: RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

Yes I did try the apple magic keyboard as well with the same results.

 

Chris Judge

 



 

 



 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Les 
Kriegler
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2023 9:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

Hi Chris,

I have had numerous conversations with Logitech Tech Support and Apple. 
Logitech does not support TVOS latest version. Whether they will is an open 
question. Apple doesn’t even support this OS on their own keyboards which makes 
no sense to me. I will be writing Apple Accessibility about this and encourage 
you and others to do the same. I was shocked that Apple’s keyboard won’t work 
with their own product.

Best,

 

Les

 

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Subject: RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

I’m having the same issue ever since updating to the latest TV OS. I sure hope 
someone has a solution because it’s driving me batty. 

 

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Kriegler
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Cc: macvisionar...@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

Hi All,

I have been using a Logitech K380 with my Apple TV 4th Generation for about two 
years. After going away for a couple weeks, when returning, that keyboard no 
longer works. The arrows yield no response and the Return key either does 
nothing or launches a different app that I am focused on. Since my keyboard was 
out of warranty, I decided to purchase the K780 which I know many use on this 
list. The same problems with unresponsive arrow keys are present on that 
keyboard. On my iPhone, the return key does not activate an app. Logitech says 
it is something Apple software modified. Is anybody successfully using am Apple 
TV 4th Generation with either the K380 or K780?  If anyone can suggest another 
compatible keyboard, that would be appreciated.

Best,

 

Les

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RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

2023-10-24 Thread Les Kriegler
Hi Chris,

Sorry to hear this. Have you checked for any system updates? For the gentleman 
who asked about the operating system, I am using TVOS 17.0 21J 354.

Best,

 

Les

 

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chrisjudge1...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2023 4:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

Hi. I just tried it with the Arteck Bluetooth keyboard and it still isn’t 
working. If I hold alt and control I can navigate across with the arrow keys 
but I can’t move up and down. I don’t have a Logitech keyboard to try. I’ll try 
my apple magic keyboard later.

 

Chris Judge

 



 

 



 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Les 
Kriegler
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2023 9:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

Hi Chris and All,

The issue with using the keyboard with one’s Apple TV has been fixed. The arrow 
keys by themselves can now be used. Thus far, I have tested with the Logitech 
K380, but I suspect other keyboards should now work.

Best,

 

Les

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
chrisjudge1...@gmail.com <mailto:chrisjudge1...@gmail.com> 
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

Yes I did try the apple magic keyboard as well with the same results.

 

Chris Judge

 



 

 



 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Les 
Kriegler
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2023 9:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

Hi Chris,

I have had numerous conversations with Logitech Tech Support and Apple. 
Logitech does not support TVOS latest version. Whether they will is an open 
question. Apple doesn’t even support this OS on their own keyboards which makes 
no sense to me. I will be writing Apple Accessibility about this and encourage 
you and others to do the same. I was shocked that Apple’s keyboard won’t work 
with their own product.

Best,

 

Les

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
chrisjudge1...@gmail.com <mailto:chrisjudge1...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2023 6:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

I’m having the same issue ever since updating to the latest TV OS. I sure hope 
someone has a solution because it’s driving me batty. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Les 
Kriegler
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2023 2:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Cc: macvisionar...@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

Hi All,

I have been using a Logitech K380 with my Apple TV 4th Generation for about two 
years. After going away for a couple weeks, when returning, that keyboard no 
longer works. The arrows yield no response and the Return key either does 
nothing or launches a different app that I am focused on. Since my keyboard was 
out of warranty, I decided to purchase the K780 which I know many use on this 
list. The same problems with unresponsive arrow keys are present on that 
keyboard. On my iPhone, the return key does not activate an app. Logitech says 
it is something Apple software modified. Is anybody successfully using am Apple 
TV 4th Generation with either the K380 or K780?  If anyone can suggest another 
compatible keyboard, that would be appreciated.

Best,

 

Les

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RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

2023-10-24 Thread chrisjudge1967
Hi. I just tried it with the Arteck Bluetooth keyboard and it still isn’t 
working. If I hold alt and control I can navigate across with the arrow keys 
but I can’t move up and down. I don’t have a Logitech keyboard to try. I’ll try 
my apple magic keyboard later.

 

Chris Judge

 



 

 



 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Les 
Kriegler
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2023 9:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

Hi Chris and All,

The issue with using the keyboard with one’s Apple TV has been fixed. The arrow 
keys by themselves can now be used. Thus far, I have tested with the Logitech 
K380, but I suspect other keyboards should now work.

Best,

 

Les

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
chrisjudge1...@gmail.com <mailto:chrisjudge1...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2023 10:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

Yes I did try the apple magic keyboard as well with the same results.

 

Chris Judge

 



 

 



 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Les 
Kriegler
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2023 9:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

Hi Chris,

I have had numerous conversations with Logitech Tech Support and Apple. 
Logitech does not support TVOS latest version. Whether they will is an open 
question. Apple doesn’t even support this OS on their own keyboards which makes 
no sense to me. I will be writing Apple Accessibility about this and encourage 
you and others to do the same. I was shocked that Apple’s keyboard won’t work 
with their own product.

Best,

 

Les

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
chrisjudge1...@gmail.com <mailto:chrisjudge1...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2023 6:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

I’m having the same issue ever since updating to the latest TV OS. I sure hope 
someone has a solution because it’s driving me batty. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Les 
Kriegler
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2023 2:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Cc: macvisionar...@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

Hi All,

I have been using a Logitech K380 with my Apple TV 4th Generation for about two 
years. After going away for a couple weeks, when returning, that keyboard no 
longer works. The arrows yield no response and the Return key either does 
nothing or launches a different app that I am focused on. Since my keyboard was 
out of warranty, I decided to purchase the K780 which I know many use on this 
list. The same problems with unresponsive arrow keys are present on that 
keyboard. On my iPhone, the return key does not activate an app. Logitech says 
it is something Apple software modified. Is anybody successfully using am Apple 
TV 4th Generation with either the K380 or K780?  If anyone can suggest another 
compatible keyboard, that would be appreciated.

Best,

 

Les

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RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

2023-10-24 Thread chrisjudge1967
Ok thanks I’ll give it a try.

 

 

Chris Judge

 



 

 



 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Les 
Kriegler
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2023 9:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

Hi Chris and All,

The issue with using the keyboard with one’s Apple TV has been fixed. The arrow 
keys by themselves can now be used. Thus far, I have tested with the Logitech 
K380, but I suspect other keyboards should now work.

Best,

 

Les

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
chrisjudge1...@gmail.com <mailto:chrisjudge1...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2023 10:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

Yes I did try the apple magic keyboard as well with the same results.

 

Chris Judge

 



 

 



 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Les 
Kriegler
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2023 9:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

Hi Chris,

I have had numerous conversations with Logitech Tech Support and Apple. 
Logitech does not support TVOS latest version. Whether they will is an open 
question. Apple doesn’t even support this OS on their own keyboards which makes 
no sense to me. I will be writing Apple Accessibility about this and encourage 
you and others to do the same. I was shocked that Apple’s keyboard won’t work 
with their own product.

Best,

 

Les

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
chrisjudge1...@gmail.com <mailto:chrisjudge1...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2023 6:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

I’m having the same issue ever since updating to the latest TV OS. I sure hope 
someone has a solution because it’s driving me batty. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Les 
Kriegler
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2023 2:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Cc: macvisionar...@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

Hi All,

I have been using a Logitech K380 with my Apple TV 4th Generation for about two 
years. After going away for a couple weeks, when returning, that keyboard no 
longer works. The arrows yield no response and the Return key either does 
nothing or launches a different app that I am focused on. Since my keyboard was 
out of warranty, I decided to purchase the K780 which I know many use on this 
list. The same problems with unresponsive arrow keys are present on that 
keyboard. On my iPhone, the return key does not activate an app. Logitech says 
it is something Apple software modified. Is anybody successfully using am Apple 
TV 4th Generation with either the K380 or K780?  If anyone can suggest another 
compatible keyboard, that would be appreciated.

Best,

 

Les

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Re: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

2023-10-24 Thread Dave Grossoehme

What version of IOS are you using in the Apple TV for this to work?

Dave


On 10/24/2023 8:14 AM, Les Kriegler wrote:


Hi Chris and All,

The issue with using the keyboard with one’s Apple TV has been fixed. 
The arrow keys by themselves can now be used. Thus far, I have tested 
with the Logitech K380, but I suspect other keyboards should now work.


Best,

Les

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
Of *chrisjudge1...@gmail.com

*Sent:* Saturday, October 21, 2023 10:00 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

Yes I did try the apple magic keyboard as well with the same results.

*Chris Judge*

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
Of *Les Kriegler

*Sent:* Saturday, October 21, 2023 9:38 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

Hi Chris,

I have had numerous conversations with Logitech Tech Support and 
Apple. Logitech does not support TVOS latest version. Whether they 
will is an open question. Apple doesn’t even support this OS on their 
own keyboards which makes no sense to me. I will be writing Apple 
Accessibility about this and encourage you and others to do the same. 
I was shocked that Apple’s keyboard won’t work with their own product.


Best,

Les

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
Of *chrisjudge1...@gmail.com

*Sent:* Friday, October 20, 2023 6:23 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

I’m having the same issue ever since updating to the latest TV OS. I 
sure hope someone has a solution because it’s driving me batty.


*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
Of *Les Kriegler

*Sent:* Friday, October 20, 2023 2:36 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Cc:* macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

Hi All,

I have been using a Logitech K380 with my Apple TV 4^th Generation for 
about two years. After going away for a couple weeks, when returning, 
that keyboard no longer works. The arrows yield no response and the 
Return key either does nothing or launches a different app that I am 
focused on. Since my keyboard was out of warranty, I decided to 
purchase the K780 which I know many use on this list. The same 
problems with unresponsive arrow keys are present on that keyboard. On 
my iPhone, the return key does not activate an app. Logitech says it 
is something Apple software modified. Is anybody successfully using am 
Apple TV 4^th Generation with either the K380 or K780?  If anyone can 
suggest another compatible keyboard, that would be appreciated.


Best,

Les

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RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

2023-10-24 Thread Les Kriegler
Hi Chris and All,

The issue with using the keyboard with one’s Apple TV has been fixed. The arrow 
keys by themselves can now be used. Thus far, I have tested with the Logitech 
K380, but I suspect other keyboards should now work.

Best,

 

Les

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
chrisjudge1...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2023 10:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

Yes I did try the apple magic keyboard as well with the same results.

 

Chris Judge

 



 

 



 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Les 
Kriegler
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2023 9:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

Hi Chris,

I have had numerous conversations with Logitech Tech Support and Apple. 
Logitech does not support TVOS latest version. Whether they will is an open 
question. Apple doesn’t even support this OS on their own keyboards which makes 
no sense to me. I will be writing Apple Accessibility about this and encourage 
you and others to do the same. I was shocked that Apple’s keyboard won’t work 
with their own product.

Best,

 

Les

 

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

I’m having the same issue ever since updating to the latest TV OS. I sure hope 
someone has a solution because it’s driving me batty. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Les 
Kriegler
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Cc: macvisionar...@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

Hi All,

I have been using a Logitech K380 with my Apple TV 4th Generation for about two 
years. After going away for a couple weeks, when returning, that keyboard no 
longer works. The arrows yield no response and the Return key either does 
nothing or launches a different app that I am focused on. Since my keyboard was 
out of warranty, I decided to purchase the K780 which I know many use on this 
list. The same problems with unresponsive arrow keys are present on that 
keyboard. On my iPhone, the return key does not activate an app. Logitech says 
it is something Apple software modified. Is anybody successfully using am Apple 
TV 4th Generation with either the K380 or K780?  If anyone can suggest another 
compatible keyboard, that would be appreciated.

Best,

 

Les

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RE: Onscreen Keyboard Does Not Show Up On my iPhones since Recent Update

2023-10-23 Thread Richard Turner
After pressing cord+q and gotten the keyboard back, locking your phone, then 
turning off the braille display?

I don't have a Focus but that works with the Orbit displays and the older 
Braille Edge.




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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ron 
Canazzi
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 7:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Onscreen Keyboard Does Not Show Up On my iPhones since Recent 
Update

Hi Group,

I am still having issues with the onscreen keyboard being suppressed in some 
fashion when it interacts with the Focus 40 blue latest edition Braille 
keyboard. I do get some positive results when I press the Q chord, but then if 
I turn off Quick Nav, I an still getting issues if I turn off the Display.  My 
only sure way for this not to happen is to keep the Braille display on and then 
the keyboard will show up.


On 10/23/2023 5:31 AM, debbiey1...@optusnet.com.au wrote:
> Ok, try a double press with voice over off.
>
> Debbie
>
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> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2023 11:26 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Onscreen Keyboard Does Not Show Up On my iPhones since 
> Recent Update
>
> This does not work for me. The context menu comes up instead. Hopefully this 
> gets fixed soon.
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Oct 21, 2023, at 10:15 PM, Debbie April Yuille 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Thanks. It wasn't easy. I googled the problem and the fix I found was for 
>> sighted users. So, I realised that I needed to get my focus in the right 
>> area, then use the shortcut to turn voice over off and on again.
>>
>> Debbie
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Carolyn Arnold
>> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2023 11:25 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Onscreen Keyboard Does Not Show Up On my iPhones since 
>> Recent Update
>>
>> Amazing that you figured that one out, Debbie!
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Debbie April Yuille
>> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2023 9:22 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Onscreen Keyboard Does Not Show Up On my iPhones since 
>> Recent Update
>>
>> Hi Ron
>>
>> I've had that problem too. What you need to do, is put your cursor in the 
>> text area like usual. Then, while keeping your finger in that area, turn 
>> voice over off then with your finger, do a long press, hopefully when you 
>> then turn voice over back on, your keyboard should be there.
>>
>> Hth
>> Debbie
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Ron Canazzi
>> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2023 2:00 AM
>> To: ViPhone List 
>> Subject: Onscreen Keyboard Does Not Show Up On my iPhones since 
>> Recent Update
>>
>> Hi Group,
>>
>> I  am wondering if anyone else is seeing this and if there is a fix.
>>
>> For years now, when using the iPhone, when I double tap an edit field, I get 
>> the message: 'text field insertion point at start (sometimes insertion point 
>> at end.' I can then move down to a keyboard with standard QWERTY keys and a 
>> dictate button and enter/search/go button in the bottom right area.
>>
>> I hadn't tried entering anything for a week or so and I noticed there had 
>> been an update to the IOS in the past few days.  Now when I double tap on an 
>> edit field, I no longer see a QWERTY type keyboard anywhere on screen for me 
>> to enter text.  There is a dictate button, but nothing else.
>>
>> is this a bug introduced recently in the latest IOS update? How can I make 
>> the onscreen keyboard appear as it has for years? Thanks for any help.
>>
>>
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Re: Onscreen Keyboard Does Not Show Up On my iPhones since Recent Update

2023-10-23 Thread Ron Canazzi

Hi Group,

I am still having issues with the onscreen keyboard being suppressed in 
some fashion when it interacts with the Focus 40 blue latest edition 
Braille keyboard. I do get some positive results when I press the Q 
chord, but then if I turn off Quick Nav, I an still getting issues if I 
turn off the Display.  My only sure way for this not to happen is to 
keep the Braille display on and then the keyboard will show up.



On 10/23/2023 5:31 AM, debbiey1...@optusnet.com.au wrote:

Ok, try a double press with voice over off.

Debbie

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jenifer 
Barr
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2023 11:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Onscreen Keyboard Does Not Show Up On my iPhones since Recent 
Update

This does not work for me. The context menu comes up instead. Hopefully this 
gets fixed soon.
Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 21, 2023, at 10:15 PM, Debbie April Yuille  
wrote:

Thanks. It wasn't easy. I googled the problem and the fix I found was for 
sighted users. So, I realised that I needed to get my focus in the right area, 
then use the shortcut to turn voice over off and on again.

Debbie

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2023 11:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Onscreen Keyboard Does Not Show Up On my iPhones since Recent 
Update

Amazing that you figured that one out, Debbie!

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Debbie April Yuille
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2023 9:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Onscreen Keyboard Does Not Show Up On my iPhones since Recent 
Update

Hi Ron

I've had that problem too. What you need to do, is put your cursor in the text 
area like usual. Then, while keeping your finger in that area, turn voice over 
off then with your finger, do a long press, hopefully when you then turn voice 
over back on, your keyboard should be there.

Hth
Debbie

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ron 
Canazzi
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2023 2:00 AM
To: ViPhone List 
Subject: Onscreen Keyboard Does Not Show Up On my iPhones since Recent Update

Hi Group,

I  am wondering if anyone else is seeing this and if there is a fix.

For years now, when using the iPhone, when I double tap an edit field, I get 
the message: 'text field insertion point at start (sometimes insertion point at 
end.' I can then move down to a keyboard with standard QWERTY keys and a 
dictate button and enter/search/go button in the bottom right area.

I hadn't tried entering anything for a week or so and I noticed there had been 
an update to the IOS in the past few days.  Now when I double tap on an edit 
field, I no longer see a QWERTY type keyboard anywhere on screen for me to 
enter text.  There is a dictate button, but nothing else.

is this a bug introduced recently in the latest IOS update? How can I make the 
onscreen keyboard appear as it has for years? Thanks for any help.


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