RE: [Vo]:13th Floor - deja vu all over again

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

One of my dramatizations of this theme is from StarTrek NG.  Note it has 
recursion and chirality reversal -- very well done!





Ship in a bottle; Elementary Dear Data 






Hoyt Stearns

Scottsdale Arizona US



From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net]
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2016 2:12 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:13th Floor - deja vu all over again



From: Blaze Spinnaker

Ø   Also, it does lend credence to concepts of immortality. One goal of 
transhumanists is backing up your 'brain'. If you die, you just need to reload 
it into a simulation.

Who needs the simulation, or stated differently, isn’t the Sim intrinsic to 
power-law evolution? Can an individual use the Sim to avoid being locked into 
an endless succession of Sims?

It may be possible within a generation to essentially “download a brain”… such 
that the dying individual at least has the comfort of a continuity-mythology 
(of a scientific variety)… IOW, which is not tied to the whims of 3000 year old 
fairy tales … including the reality of a special kind of physical immortality.

The evolution of the SSD, the PC, AI and AR is clearly towards the 
implementation of the SSS – the solid state soul… J The SSS can find a carrier 
in many kinds of vehicles.

There is even an advantage to accomplishing this kind of mechanical continuity 
outside the Sim, for the most successful individuals, the 2%. Side note: In 
truth, this select few should be far less than 1 percent of the general 
population, but there is a wider margin, based on other factors in a 
capitalistic society, including wealth. This is most evident in a political 
season.

The disembodied (re-bodied) soul of the second tier (the Betas of Brave New 
World) as an SSS becomes a marketable item in a capitalist system, as does the 
genetically perfected body. Evolution is taken over by an exponential power 
law. The Sim is inevitable at some point and ingrained in the process, so the 
next goal is to develop the best Sim in order to jump out of the Sim-cycle.

The wealthy would-be couple avoid children in favor or wealth, or most likely 
the single parent, who then will buy a genetically engineered near-duplicate 
body, a product of a surrogate mother, based his/her own perfected genome – 
which is of course the equivalent of the “alphas” of BNW. They can shop around 
for available compatible souls to supplement his/her own contribution - from a 
broker of such - as a head-start towards evolution of both together.

The possibilities are mind boggling … especially with a fine Pinot Noir to be 
sampled at 5… or earlier if this thread mutates into new territory…



---
This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
https://www.avast.com/antivirus

RE: [Vo]:[Vo] ehang 184 flying taxi

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

Two very big problems with this device:

1. It can't autorotate the way a normal helicopter can -- If the power quits 
you're dead.
( That's true of all lift fan devices. )

2. The downwash speed is so great that it would send rocks, sand, grass flying 
everywhere unless there were a very clean paved pad.

Hoyt Stearns
Scottsdale, Arizona US


-Original Message-
From: a.ashfield [mailto:a.ashfi...@verizon.net]
Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2016 6:08 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: [Vo]:[Vo] ehang 184 flying taxi

Looks like a neat design.  I can see some possible problems like the unguarded 
propellers and I wonder about the noise level.  Closest thing
yet to the childhood promise of a flying car.   Needs LENR to give it range.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3387542/The-MEGADRONE-big-carry-passenger-Chinese-firm-says-self-flying-craft-used-smart-taxi.html


---
This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
https://www.avast.com/antivirus

RE: [Vo]:

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

There are equal numbers of anti-galaxies ( really inverse-galaxies ) out
there, but they 
are gravitated in 3D Time rather than 3D Space, so appear to us as cosmic
rays and background radiation
just as we do to those occupants.

Inverse Humans are ~80 light years tall and have a lifetime of 6 nanoSeconds
from our point of view.

Hoyt Stearns
Scottsdale, Arizona US

-Original Message-
From: mix...@bigpond.com [mailto:mix...@bigpond.com] 
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 2:14 PM


I have always wondered what it is that causes the scientific community to
believe that the universe is comprised solely of matter?

How do we know there aren't anti-matter galaxies out there?

(Gamma-ray bursters when they collide with ordinary matter??)


Robin van Spaandonk

http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html


---
This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
https://www.avast.com/antivirus

RE: [Vo]: How many atoms to make condensed matter?

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

As Professor KVK Nehru has elucidated,  you're right, the sun is powered by 
decays of the heavy elements

in the center (  That seems so self evident, it's hard to imagine where 
this other stuff came from,

as if the neutrino experiments ad nauseum wouldn't have invalidated that theory 
long ago,

but you know, if the theory and experiment disagree, the theory wins :-) .

)



Glimpses Into the Structure of the Sun ( KVK,Nehru ) 




Hoyt Stearns

Scottsdale, Arizona US







From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net]
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 9:08 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]: How many atoms to make condensed matter?



From: Bob Higgins

Ø   Can you say what evidence the natural state should exhibit if such a 
sub-nuclear shuffle were as "less difficult" as you describe?  Are there 
natural occurrences that can be looked for that could validate such a 
proposition?

Indeed – such a radical shift would have dramatic, even Universal repercussions 
(turtles all the way down) .

The obvious first place to look is our sun. Do we really understand the solar 
hydrogen fusion cycle?  My opinion is that we could have it partly wrong, 
especially the basic P+P reaction- which is statistically difficult to 
reconcile. Here is the way the mainstream looks at it:

  
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton%E2%80%93proton_chain_reaction

But many observers are struck by the mechanics of the solar fusion cycle being 
absolutely dependent on a rare beta decay in the diproton. Can that really 
happen during the short lifetime of the species? Despite what you may think, 
this critical detail has never been observed, and is merely an educated guess. 
It is a guess which is based mostly on lack of another viable mechanism.

If Holmlid is shown to be correct – then on our sun, we should find that 
nucleon disintegration could be happening instead of, or in addition to, the 
fusion of protons. Of course, there would be some of both, since muons catalyze 
fusion and we know that helium is formed. The proportions could be close to 
even, however.

The precise details are impossible to frame without more information, but if 
Holmlid is replicated, you will see solar cosmologists in a desperate scramble 
to cover their proverbial trailing edges.



---
This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
https://www.avast.com/antivirus

RE: [Vo]:Re: Swedish scientists claim LENR explanation break-through

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

Add some BORAX to the water,  I hear that's even better.

-Original Message-
From: mix...@bigpond.com [mailto:mix...@bigpond.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 5:11 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: Swedish scientists claim LENR explanation
break-through

In reply to  Teslaalset's message of Fri, 16 Oct 2015 09:50:19 +0200:
Hi,
[snip]

>*The scientists are now preparing for a well-planned experiment with 
>all necessary safety measures, ideally with a transparent reactor body 
>since the effect according to the scientists releases a lot of light.*

In that case I would suggest they use water as a shield. It is cheap, a good
neutron shield, and sufficiently transparent.

Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html


---
This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
https://www.avast.com/antivirus

RE: [Vo]:Subject: FORTH computer language

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

Yes, I'm Scotty :-) .



I  professionally learned assembly language on the PDP-11 which was a 
beautifully designed CPU by Gordon Bell  -- simple and elegant.



( Correction, I first did programming on a Burroughs 220 and Control Data 1604

at Cornell where I had the run of the enormous computer room at night -- but 
that dates me

to the mid 60's . )



The Motorola 6809 and 68000 were also inspired.



Then came Intel, who never could tolerate simplicity and made everything, 
hardware and software unbelievably and uselessly complicated ( I sense

the designers came from the academic community. ) .



My favorite architecture is the PowerPC from IBM,  but the non-volatile FRAM 
devices ( MSP430FR from TI ) hail back to the old magnetic core memory

days which was also non-volatile, and the MSP430's have quite a decent 
instruction set to boot (pun not intended).



Hoyt Stearns

Scottsdale, Arizona US





From: Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson [mailto:orionwo...@charter.net]
Sent: Friday, September 4, 2015 7:58 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Subject: FORTH computer language



Fun stuff there, Hoyt and Eric.



Hoyt, are you "Scotty?"



This brings up my early university studies of learning assembly language. 
Assembly & Machine language programming is another lost art within the computer 
science field. Few universities teach assembly language these days. That 
concerns me. Most programmers these days have no clue whatsoever as to what 
happens at the machine level.



I must confess learning assembly language for me had initially been 
excruciatingly difficult. It took a part-time McDonald's swing manager sitting 
me down during an evening break and explaining a fundamental machine language 
principle that had completely baffled me. Initially, I didn't understand the 
fact that instructions AND data could be stored interchangeably in the same 
locations of core memory. Once I understand the utter simplicity of that 
paradigm, there was no holding me back. Back then when I was a UW Madison 
student, I was working at a McDonalds store that catered to the lunch break of 
the University crowd. The swing manager who had obviously taken some CS 
courses, and who was instrumental in getting me to understand a major 
fundamental CS principal about low-level programming concepts, was himself a 
psychology major. Go figure. I hope he's doing well. He sure was helpful in 
straightening out some of my CS confusions.



Back then few beginning computer students had access to programming in an 
assembly language environment. Granted, there were a lot of PDP mini computers 
installed in the CS building, but you had to be a more advanced CS student in 
order to gain access to them and the machine instruction set. Those were 400+ 
level courses. For the masses: Fortran, Algol and Pascal were the rage. ... and 
nobody talked about COBOL. After all, the computer science department was an 
academic institution, not a business establishment. Of course, in my case, it 
was learning COBOL at Madison Area Technical College (located at the other side 
of town;-) ) that got me a good paying job that ultimately lasted 36 years 
working for the state of Wisconsin till I retired last December.



CS students learned assembly language by initially practicing with Donald's 
Knuth's MIX language. MIX was an elegant representation of a simulation of 
assembly language.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIX



I had a lot of fun learning how to program within a simulated core of 4k 
memory. MIX taught me how to be efficient in both compacting the size of my 
programs as well as making them execute quickly. In one contest I came in 2nd 
best for designing a program that was both the fastest as well as taking up as 
few machine instructions as possible within core memory. The class was assigned 
the task of adding up Fibonacci numbers. Someone in the class figured out how 
to do the same function with one less machine instruction than my program. I 
wish I had found out who that person was. I would have loved to have compared 
notes.



These days I use Microsoft Visual Studio Profession - 2013. I'll probably 
upgrade to 2015 or later version reasonably soon. My Kepler project is being 
written primarily in C#. It's a decent language.



Regards,

Steven Vincent Johnson

OrionWorks.com

zazzle.com/orionworks



---
This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
http://www.avast.com

RE: [Vo]:Subject: FORTH computer language

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

I'm hoping to shift software development training away from the current 
academic paradigms which

always seemed to me to be designed by folks who never actually designed any 
real products or worked

at a real company ...



Most of my professional career I've used FORTH as the preferred computer 
language when the employer didn't care what language was used ( however, most 
want C which I am fluent in and accommodated them with. ).



FORTH is really quite amazing I think, I can have the entire development system 
online and running on the target devices ready to be reprogrammed or adjusted 
or even completely recompiled whilst still running the application the customer 
is using!



FORTH also has a much higher level of abstractions available than other 
languages, it can redefine and re-compile itself on the fly.





My latest FORTH masterpiece is at Stimwave.com which is working really well, 
and it can do in 16k Bytes what would

take 16 megaBytes with conventional designs  ( I know, memory is free now so 
who cares how much you waste :-) but this

FRAM processor doesn't have that much. )





( Scotty in the pictures   )







Hoyt Stearns

Scottsdale, Arizona US







From: Robert Ellefson [mailto:vortex-h...@e2ke.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2015 1:50 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Subject: off topic android







From: Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 
9:20 AM

FORTH is an interesting RPN (Reverse Polish Notation) programming language. 
Quite primitive, but deceptively powerful once you get a handle of it.



I already liked RPN from using and programming my HP 11c calculator, but when I 
started working on hardware design at Sun in the early 90’s I really fell in 
love with Forth, since their boot monitor was implemented with it.  For 
hardware debug, this was great, because I could write all kinds of hardware 
diagnostics and stimulus loops with very little effort, and I didn’t need to 
boot the OS to get a lot of lab work done.  Working on hardware without a 
decent, programmable boot monitor has never been the same for me since.



-Bob





---
This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
http://www.avast.com

RE: [Vo]:Coal mining industry in steep decline

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

...and as Robert A. Heinlein said:  an insurance company is just a bookie-- 
let's call it what it is -- you make bets that something will go wrong.







From: James Bowery [mailto:jabow...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 8:19 AM
To: vortex-l
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Coal mining industry in steep decline



The original libertarians in the US -- the 1800s frontier libertarians like 
Lysander Spooner, understood legitimate government as a mutual insurance 
company.  An insurance company operating as government would charge an 
insurance premium for the protection of property rights.  This is essentially a 
wealth tax.  Moreover, as a mutual insurance company, not only would the 
territory be protected under a collective defense -- rendering immigration 
restriction a natural function -- but dividends would be paid to the members, 
and those dividends would function as an unconditional basic income thereby 
rendering virtually all social goods a natural function of local communities so 
endowed.



Then the Austrian School of Economics that came along in the 20th century 
shot the original libertarian movement in the head, execution style, totally 
denying any kind of collective right to territorial protection (open borders) 
and totally socializing the cost of protection of property rights.  This is why 
Ron Paul and Rand Paul don't stand a chance of being elected as libertarians.



On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 10:04 AM, Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson 
orionwo...@charter.net wrote:

I find it interesting to view this entire process as an interesting game in how 
humans go about redistributing units of wealth across the planet.



The entire process, the mechanisms currently installed to initiate “wealth 
distribution” has become so incredibly convoluted and obfuscated (intentionally 
so, I might add) that it’s easy to lose site of the fact when you really boil 
this process down to its most primal level, it’s just about how one individual, 
group, or organization goes about getting (or stealing if they can get away 
with it)  more gummy from their neighbor. It’s all based on an illusion that 
there are a fixed number of gummy bears in the BIG POT. As such it behooves you 
to acquire as many gummy bears as you can before your neighbor does the same to 
you. Well… we are competitive creatures by nature. On a monthly basis, I play a 
board game called “Game of Thrones” with my friends. It's based on the popular 
George R.R. Martin books and spin-off TV series. I feel fortunate if I can make 
it through the afternoon without my cattle being raped.



It is perhaps naive of me to believe this but it remains my hope that as our 
society continues to evolve in the direction a highly networked, responsive 
global civilization more and more of the population will begin to clearly see 
the abject hypocrisy and injustice all these little gummy bar games we now 
perform against each other does. We will begin to see how such self-serving 
injustices induce great harm upon on vast swatches of society and end up 
needlessly devaluing many of their ability to make incalculable contributions 
to the common good.



I suppose I sound like an evil socialist, or worst, a communist. However, in my 
view, as technology, robotics, and AI continues to advance, robbing many of us 
of our jobs and identities, it may turn out to be the case that some form of 
high-tech modernized communism that revolves around enforced distribution of 
goods and services amongst all the population will eventually be recognized as 
the fairest and most humane. It will ensure the fact that we all get the 
essential basics of what need in order to survive in a modern civilization. It 
will ensure that all of society benefits, and not just those who know how to 
play the Game of Thrones game board better than their neighbor. If not, I will 
probably end up being repeatedly raped along with my cattle.



Regards,

Steven Vincent Johnson

OrionWorks.com

zazzle.com/orionworks





---
This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
http://www.avast.com

RE: [Vo]:There Is Growing Evidence that Our Universe Is a Giant Hologram

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

It's not a hologram at all! Earth 3D space-time reality is  entirely a software 
defined virtual reality ( unique to each individual ), as in

The Matrix except it's your creation, not some bad guy's.



Here's a provocative dramatization of that including double recursion and 
chirality reversal ( especially look at the last few minutes! ):



Star TrekNG Ship-in-a-bottle 
http://hoytstearns.com/ElementaryDearData_ShipInABottle.wmv





From: Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 2:17 PM
To: vortex-l
Subject: [Vo]:There Is Growing Evidence that Our Universe Is a Giant Hologram



http://astro.fnal.gov/Retreat/Retreat0409/hogan.pdf



Holographic Noise



A holographic telescope might have detected the reduction or fuzziness in the 
resolution of reality caused by the projection of 4 dimensional space time 
using the instantaneous wormhole projection of entanglement of virtual 
particles from the 2 dimensional surface information at the edge of the 
universe. More resolution must be provided in this specialized instrumentation 
to clarify this issue.



Background information on this issue as follows:



There Is Growing Evidence that Our Universe Is a Giant Hologram



http://motherboard.vice.com/read/there-is-growing-evidence-that-our-universe-is-a-giant-hologram







---
This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
http://www.avast.com

[Vo]:OT: Patent question

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

Question about trade secrets and patent enforcement:

 

How does a patent holder enforce his patents when a device with trade
secrets is by definition unavailable for examination,

especially if the device is leased and reverse engineering is forbidden?

 

As an example, Piantelli has a nickel-hydrogen patent.  How could he enforce
that against Rossi if what's inside a Rossi device

is a secret?

 

Does a court have the power to force disclosure?  

 

Just curious.

 

Hoyt Stearns

Scottsdale Arizona US



---
This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
http://www.avast.com

RE: [Vo]:OT: Patent question

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

I agree actually,   I have two on pressure jet helicopters -- useless except 
they look good on my resume, so I guess that's a + :-) .



But my question was:   Can a court in any country demand disclosure of trade 
secrets by subpoena or otherwise in pursuit of

a patent infringement case?  ( Thinking about it, I guess a court could 
subpoena anything it wants. ).



Hoyt Stearns

Scottsdale, Arizona US





From: Lennart Thornros [mailto:lenn...@thornros.com]
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 10:28 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:OT: Patent question



Forget about patents.

They are as obsolete as the pony-express.

I have been involved on both sides. The winner is always the one with better 
financial support. In a few cases persistence has paid off.

As an example a company has requested a patent for push button making two 
separate events start independently of each other. It should have been denied 
as just basic engineering. However, making claims of using special materials 
probably fooled the examiner at USPTO. I was sued for infringement. It cost 
$50,000 just to show it was invalid. Yes, I understand that one could have read 
the patent application and protested so the patent never  became a reality, if 
one has the time to read all new applications. The only guys who won was the 
attorneys. They probably collected a couple of hundred thousand dollars. The 
patent still is valid. I could not afford to invalidate it. It was enough to 
just get out of the lawsuit. Hoyt I think your example is good enough to show 
the opposite situation. I assume AR has better financial backing than 
Piantelli. Then the outcome is given and you now who will benefit.

Trade secrets are way better protection than patent and they are cheaper




Best Regards ,
Lennart Thornros



www.StrategicLeadershipSac.com

lenn...@thornros.com
+1 916 436 1899

202 Granite Park Court, Lincoln CA 95648



“Productivity is never an accident. It is always the result of a commitment to 
excellence, intelligent planning, and focused effort.” PJM



On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 6:45 AM, Hoyt A. Stearns Jr. hoyt-stea...@cox.net 
wrote:

Question about trade secrets and patent enforcement:



How does a patent holder enforce his patents when a device with trade secrets 
is by definition unavailable for examination,

especially if the device is leased and reverse engineering is forbidden?



As an example, Piantelli has a nickel-hydrogen patent.  How could he enforce 
that against Rossi if what's inside a Rossi device

is a secret?



Does a court have the power to force disclosure?



Just curious.



Hoyt Stearns

Scottsdale Arizona US



  _


 http://www.avast.com/ Avast logo

This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
www.avast.com http://www.avast.com/







---
This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
http://www.avast.com

RE: [Vo]:The quest for everlasting power

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

I guess he could say that there is no art yet -- it's a pioneering patent, 
but that's a legal question.



From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 6:48 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:The quest for everlasting power



Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:



IMHO, What makes Rossi tick is a tight connection between the EGO of Rossi and 
his E-Cat. He cannot give control of this device to someone else. Like Joe 
Papp, Rossi will never tell anybody how it works; valid patent or no.



If other people cannot replicate the device from the patent, then by definition 
the patent is not valid.



A person having ordinary skill in the art (PHOSITA) has to be able to replicate 
or a patent will be ruled invalid.



- Jed





---
This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
http://www.avast.com

RE: [Vo]:Possible cause for coral reefs dying...

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

Any non-linearity in a medium like salt water will cause baseband currents.





From: David Roberson [mailto:dlrober...@aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2015 2:45 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Possible cause for coral reefs dying...



You are kidding right?

Any signal that shows up is merely being translated in frequency from its 
original location down to the baseband.  The only signal received is very close 
in frequency to the carrier wave.  The modulation signal at the low Hertz rate 
is visible at the receiver output, but it was not radiated by the transmitter.

Dave







-Original Message-
From: ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, Jul 7, 2015 2:22 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Possible cause for coral reefs dying...

David,



Of course the low frequency square pulses show up on receivers, that is how 
pulsed doppler works!



http://www.rfcafe.com/references/articles/images/Signal-Analysis-Modern-Radar-R-S-6.jpg



When it is on (every pulse) a weather radar puts out ~1,000,000 WATTS, (32 
billion watts EIRP)



Stewart





On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 2:10 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: 

Come on now Stewart.  If you take the time to analyze the spectrum of a pulsed 
radar signal, you will find that all of the energy is contained in a location 
surrounding the carrier frequency.   Also, how well do you think a dish radar 
antenna being feed by a bandwidth limited waveguide is going to radiate those 
200 to 1000 Hz signals?   If you can show me where any significant amount of 
that low frequency is radiated I will assume that you are knowledgeable in RF 
design.

It is easy to convince people that know nothing about radio and radar systems 
to be concerned about unimportant issues.  And, as everyone knows, statistics 
can prove just about anything that you wish to prove based upon the 
restrictions that are placed upon the data that is analyzed.

The same type of reasoning is used to keep kids from being vaccinated or 
cellular antenna locations from being located in the ideal places.  We need 
real science instead of  variable statistics to settle these issues properly.

Dave







-Original Message-
From: ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com

Sent: Tue, Jul 7, 2015 1:53 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Possible cause for coral reefs dying...

Dave, the pulse train is a square wave, with the on amplitude approx 900' 
long or longer depending upon duty cycle, bouncing between clouds/planes and 
the suface of the ocean



Just one weather radar has an EIRP of 32 billion watts of power, which gets 
ducted and scattered by planes and the atmosphere, more during storms.



Mildly shocking biology with every pulse, depending upon impedence



Electricity can kill you in a nanosecond, each radar pulse is 1000 times longer 
that that in duration.



Admit it, you sparkies  screwed up :)



Stewart

















On Tuesday, July 7, 2015, David Roberson  dlrober...@aol.com wrote:

The radar pulse rate does not effect the penetration into the water.  In other 
words, the 200 to 1000 Hz rate is applied to the carrier and does not 
independently appear anywhere else.

Dave





-Original Message-
From: ChemE Stewart  cheme...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l  vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, Jul 7, 2015 8:12 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Possible cause for coral reefs dying...

 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Very_low_frequency VLF radio waves (3–30  
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hertz kHz) can penetrate seawater to a depth 
of approximately 20 meters. Hence a submarine at shallow depth can use these 
frequencies.



Most of the radars pulse at 200-1000 Hz.



Most of the coral disease is in shallow water 20 meters

On Tuesday, July 7, 2015, ChemE Stewart  cheme...@gmail.com wrote:

Except low pulsed frequencies

On Tuesday, July 7, 2015, James Bowery  jabow...@gmail.com wrote:





On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 1:42 AM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote:

This is primarily meant for fellow Vort, ChemEng (Stewart), but some others may 
have an interest…



Stewart, I think I may have a cause for your hypothesis re: a link between our 
modern radar systems and the dying of coral reefs…

...

Time to break out the tin-foil hats???



No need.  Salt water shields against EM penetration.





---
This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection 
is active.
https://www.avast.com/antivirus

RE: [Vo]:Possible cause for coral reefs dying...

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

This must be done blind but even then, the experimenter effect ( Marylyn 
Schlitz) would override the results ( Experimenter effect 
https://books.google.com/books?id=OwVgHlx4KQECpg=PA138lpg=PA138dq=experimenter+effect%22+schlitz+-staringsource=blots=ydx_ZemON7sig=GyWDMrTatbkloi3-mMUEROsrUzohl=ensa=Xei=UeObVdWZE8v2oATG1byoCgved=0CCsQ6AEwAg#v=onepageq=experimenter%20effect%22%
  ).







From: James Bowery [mailto:jabow...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2015 7:07 AM
To: vortex-l
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Possible cause for coral reefs dying...



Thanks for the numbers.



This should be relatively straight forward to test:



Set up two salt water aquariums supporting comparable coral populations.  Run 
them for a year or so to see they are stable.  Then subject one of them to low 
frequency EM radiation.



PS:  What I mean contraction in terms is that pulse implies high frequency 
components and, indeed, is usually illustrated by time differential on a square 
wave to filter out the low frequency components.  However, your point is well 
taken -- a short duration transmission of a high power low frequency signal 
will penetrate salt water -- with a very drastic reduction in power with depth, 
as your numbers show.



On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 8:50 AM, ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote:

Low frequency pulse.



Also, we are not communicating with the marine life and coral reef, the 
evidence is mounting that 2 terrawatts of effective isotropic radiated power 
(EIRP) in a local area scattered by the overhead atmosphere is mildly shocking 
the marine life through electromagnetic induction and conduction through the 
salt water near the surface as it grounds out into the ocean. You can't fool 
mother nature sort of thing.



Here is a model of induced electrical currents in seawater surface around just 
one ship's antennas.  Now imagine 27 high power coastal based radars/antennas 
and 45 warship radars/antennas in one area.



http://darkmattersalot.com/2015/05/14/how-cousteau-and-noaa-killed-the-reef/






Effects of Electrical Current* on the Body [ 
http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/docs/2002-123/2002-123f.html#end3 3]


Current

Reaction


1 milliamp

Just a faint tingle.


5 milliamps

Slight shock felt. Disturbing, but not painful. Most people can “let go.” 
However, strong involuntary movements can cause injuries.


6-25 milliamps (women)†
9-30 milliamps (men)

Painful shock. Muscular control is lost. This is the range where “freezing 
currents” start. It may not be possible to “let go.”


50-150 milliamps

Extremely painful shock, respiratory arrest (breathing stops), severe muscle 
contractions. Flexor muscles may cause holding on; extensor muscles may cause 
intense pushing away. Death is possible.


1,000-4,300 milliamps (1-4.3 amps)

Ventricular fibrillation (heart pumping action not rhythmic) occurs. Muscles 
contract; nerve damage occurs. Death is likely.


10,000 milliamps (10 amps)

Cardiac arrest and severe burns occur. Death is probable.



















On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 8:43 AM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:

Low pulsed frequency is a contradiction in terms.



On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 7:01 AM, ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote:

Except low pulsed frequencies



On Tuesday, July 7, 2015, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:





On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 1:42 AM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote:

This is primarily meant for fellow Vort, ChemEng (Stewart), but some others may 
have an interest…



Stewart, I think I may have a cause for your hypothesis re: a link between our 
modern radar systems and the dying of coral reefs…

...

Time to break out the tin-foil hats???



No need.  Salt water shields against EM penetration.









---
This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection 
is active.
https://www.avast.com/antivirus

RE: [Vo]:Beautiful photo of a cell

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

Yeah -- I can't believe I ate the whole thing  or  MamaMia! that's a 
speecy-spicy meatball.



11 Classic Alka Seltzer Ads 
http://great-ads.blogspot.com/2012/08/11-classic-alka-seltzer-ads.html



From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net]
Sent: Saturday, May 9, 2015 12:32 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Beautiful photo of a cell



From: Jed Rothwell



Here is a beautiful photo of a cell, from Jean-Paul Biberian. This makes a 
brief appearance in the video:



Brings to mind “Speedy” the Alka Seltzer guy ….



---
This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection 
is active.
http://www.avast.com

RE: [Vo]:Re: CMNS: replication results coming later

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

Silicon carbide is a good enough electrical conductor it can be made to be the 
vessel and heater at the same time

( I've tried using it as a heater -- works fine).



Hoyt Stearns

Scottsdale Arizona US



From: Bob Higgins [mailto:rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, April 5, 2015 7:30 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: CMNS: replication results coming later



Daniel,  I got an email response to you from Dennis Cravens (who reads 
Vortex-l):



One easy way is a carbon welding rod. ---Cheap and most have copper coatings 
that can be easily pealed off and also be used for easy connections. They are 
also useful for current shunts.



On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 8:18 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote:

Bob,
it seems that Parkhomov is low on budget. Isn't there a cheaper way to heat 
that?  Like, removing the graphite from a pencil and using it to heat?

--

Daniel Rocha - RJ

danieldi...@gmail.com





---
This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection 
is active.
http://www.avast.com

RE: [Vo]:This is where it all began?

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

Agreed!

_
From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net]
Sent: Sunday, March 1, 2015 8:04 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:This is where it all began?


Isn’t it bizarre how most physicists will embrace that load of cosmic crap
(FTL expansion) without the least bit of real evidence for it (other than a
brain-dead theory) … yet … in the next breath they reject out-of-hand the
dozens of successful LENR experiments, simply because those experiments are
not successful 100% of the time?


From: Bob Cook

Eric brings up a good point…


From: Eric Walker mailto:eric.wal...@gmail.com
About the big bang theory -- my understanding is that it requires faster
than light expansion in the earliest period.  A theory that says the rules
change at some point in time seems a bit ad  hoc to me.


---
This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection 
is active.
http://www.avast.com
attachment: winmail.dat

RE: [Vo]:Re: Dog Bone Project

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

Nit pick:   The stress in the end caps is twice that of the body if I remember 
my  Mech E statics classes correctly.



Hoyt Stearns

Scottsdale, Arizona US



From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net]
Sent: Sunday, February 8, 2015 8:52 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Re: Dog Bone Project



Although hydrogen is released from metal hydrides at rates which increase with 
increasing temperature– the fallacy of a few of these calculations is that the 
release is also pressure dependent; and thus the release will slow or stop at 
high pressure. Therefore the release is self-regulating.



Jack could be closer to the mark in suggesting that the failure was due to 
thermal stress. In fact, this type of failure could happen with only a few bar 
of pressure.



If the failure was only pressure-related, it would happen near the middle of 
the cavity, which is the region of least structural strength against internal 
pressure - but since the failure (apparently) happened at almost exactly the 
place where the temperature gradient would be maximized – that explanation 
seems to fit the circumstances.





From: Jack Cole



I wonder to what extent the temperature gradient could have been a factor in 
the failure with one end of the tube being much cooler (the part that is 
outside of the heating element with the compression fitting on it).  Perhaps 
this would reduce the amount of pressure the alumina could contain?



Mark Jurich wrote:



I believe there maybe an error in this pressure estimate





---
This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection 
is active.
http://www.avast.com

RE: [Vo]:Limelight revisited wrt SPP

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

Interesting, Jones, thanks

 

I've seen lots of esoteric references to limestone.  It is said that a
primitive culture was able to levitate large limestone blocks many meters
high to

a ledge on the side of a mountain using

musical sounds, mostly like trumpets as I recall

 

Also Ed Leedskalnin's Coral Castle in Florida appears to have been built
with some kind of levitation.

 

Richard Hoagland found time anomalies on his computer connected Accutron
watch ( 360 Hz tuning fork) there and also

on top of Chitchen Itza in Yucatan Mexico.

 

 

Coral Castle http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coral_Castle 

 

An Expedition into Ancient Mayan Torsion Science during the Grand Galactic
Alignment of 2012 http://www.enterprisemission.com/mayantorsion.html 

 

I don't know what to make of all this so must let it drop 'til explanations
emerge  :-( .

 

Hoyt Stearns

Scottsdale, Arizona US

 

From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2015 10:43 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: [Vo]:Limelight revisited wrt SPP

 

Light emission from lime (CaO) has been around for almost 200 years, but it
appears to be just now ready for the limelight, so to speak.

Certain metal oxides emit more short wavelength light when heated than would
be expected if the emission were due to incandescence alone.  This was first
discovered during the 1820's when a young fellow by the name of Goldsworthy
Gurney (later Sir Goldsworthy Gurney) used the flame of his oxy-hydrogen
burner, to heat a lump of lime (calcium oxide).  He found that the lime gave
off a brilliant white light.

This is part of the backstory limelight, for those who are new to this
forum, and/or do not like to dig into the Vortex archives. Back in 2007-8,
at a time before SPP became the plat du jour, we were talking about thermal
and luminescent anomalies of CaO (lime). Some of this relates to f/H or
fractional hydrogen. Could these anomalies have been an early version of a
new and improved dogbone? 

 https://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l%40eskimo.com/msg25947.html
https://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l%40eskimo.com/msg25947.html

This is a long thread which may be strangely more relevant today than it was
back then, but to cut to the chase: apart from thermo-luminescence, calcium
oxide exhibits also so-called flame luminescence in the presence of hot
hydrogen. Why? Dunno. but calcium and oxygen both have Rydberg energy values
in their ionization potential (not to mention lithium, nickel and iron). All
of these elements can be found in Jack Cole's reactor.

The light emission properties are overwhelmingly intense. which is
thought-provoking in the context of surface plasmons, where the intersection
of light, electrons and a dielectric are the key to success.

Jones 

 



---
This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection 
is active.
http://www.avast.com

RE: [Vo]:doubling speed every 2 years for decades more, Intel silicon photonics now revolutionizing data centers, Michael Kassner: Rich Murray 2015.01.26

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

Well said !





From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 7:00 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:doubling speed every 2 years for decades more, Intel silicon 
photonics now revolutionizing data centers, Michael Kassner: Rich Murray 
2015.01.26



James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:



Architectures that attempt to hide this problem with lots of processors 
accessing local stores in parallel are drunks looking for their keys under the 
lamp post.



I disagree. The purpose of a computer is solve problems. To process data. Not 
to crunch numbers as quickly as possible. The human brain is many orders of 
magnitude slower than any computer, and yet we can recognize faces faster than 
just about any computer, because the brain is a massively parallel processor 
(MPP). Many neurons compare the image to stored images simultaneously, and the 
neurons that find the closest match come to mind. Many data processing 
functions can be performed in parallel. Sorting and searching arrays has been 
done in parallel since the 1950s. Polyphase sort methods with multiple 
processors and mag tape decks were wonderfully fast.



It is difficult to write MPP software, but once we master the techniques the 
job will be done, and it will be much easier to update. Already, Microsoft 
Windows works better on multi-processor computers than single processor models. 
Multiprocessor also run voice input programs much faster than single processors.



A generation from now we may have personal computers with millions of 
processors. Even if every processor were much slower than today's processors, 
the overall speed for many classes of problems will be similar to today's 
supercomputers -- which can solve problems hundreds of thousands to millions of 
times faster than a PC or Mac. They will have the power of today's Watson 
computer, which is to say, they will be able to play Jeopardy or diagnose 
disease far better than any person. I expect they will also recognize faces and 
do voice input better than any person.



There may be a few esoteric problems that are inherently serial in nature and 
that can only be solved by a single processor, but I expect most real world can 
be broken down into procedures run in parallel. Of course the breaking down 
will be done automatically. It is already.



Before computers were invented, all large real world problems were broken down 
and solved in parallel by large groups of people, usually organized in a 
hierarchy. I mean, for example, the design of large buildings or the management 
of corporations, nations or armies.



The fastest data processing in the known universe, by a wide margin, is 
biological cell reproduction. The entire genome is copied by every cell that 
splits. This is a parallel process. The moment a strand of DNA is exposed to 
solution, all of new bases begin match up simultaneously. DNA is also by far 
the most compact form of data storage in the known universe, and I predict is 
the most compact that will ever be found. I do not think subatomic data storage 
will ever be possible. All the human data now existing can be stored in about 7 
ml of DNA.



- Jed





---
This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection 
is active.
http://www.avast.com

RE: [Vo]:OT: New Curcumin ( spice) US Patent- Anticancer

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

FWIW:  Don't confuse Curcumin with Cumin;  Curcumin is the active component in 
TURMERIC which
I think is very mild compared to Cumin (Comino).
It confused me at first.



-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 6:31 AM


Wouldn't you know it.  The one spice I simply cannot tolerate.


---
This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection 
is active.
http://www.avast.com

RE: [Vo]:Machined Part in NASA Mars photo found

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

There's plenty of better images of machinery and intelligently built artifacts 
on Mars than that ( especially from the

Pathfinder rover ).  Just zoom and pan hi-res images at random, about 1 in 5 
has some anomalies.  They can be

verified by comparing images of the same place from different angles and times 
of day to rule out the tendency

to see patterns in random shapes. The 3D analglyph images are preferred.



Hoyt Stearns

Scottsdale, Arizona US



From: Ron Kita [mailto:chiralex.k...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2014 7:38 AM
To: vortex-l
Subject: [Vo]:Machined Part in NASA Mars photo found



Greetings Vortex-L.



Normally..most Mars speculation images are not worth noting and

of poor content, but IMHO this is  an exemption.



http://www.examiner.com/article/mars-evidence-of-intelligent-design-earth-valve-found-nasa-image-report





There could be a simple earth fabricated valve explanation.  Note:

give the video a few seconds to see the machined circle.



Ad Astra,

Ron Kita, Chiralex



---
This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection 
is active.
http://www.avast.com

RE: [Vo]:Machined Part in NASA Mars photo found

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

I'll do that when I have some time later, but there are plenty of websites 
dedicated to that.



Since it takes quite a lot of time to go through hi-res images with a fine 
tooth comb, I stopped doing that once I was

convinced that there were one or more civilizations that resided on Mars  2 
Megayears ago according to the late astronomer Tom Van Flandern.  There's some 
evidence that NASA has airbrushed out the obvious ones, so you have to zoom in 
to find the ones they missed, worse still, when there's something really 
interesting in the background, they refuse to go near it with a rover :-( .





Just Google Mars anomalies or Planetary anomalies or Lunar anomalies to 
get lots of links.

Unfortunately, most of the images are not worthwhile, but some are unmistakable.



Heres a good satellite image of rectangular buildings:



port7.jpg







Hoyt





From: John Berry [mailto:berry.joh...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2014 12:40 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Machined Part in NASA Mars photo found



Mind giving some decent examples to take a look at?



On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 4:01 AM, Hoyt A. Stearns Jr. hoyt-stea...@cox.net 
wrote:

There's plenty of better images of machinery and intelligently built artifacts 
on Mars than that ( especially from the

Pathfinder rover ).  Just zoom and pan hi-res images at random, about 1 in 5 
has some anomalies.  They can be

verified by comparing images of the same place from different angles and times 
of day to rule out the tendency

to see patterns in random shapes. The 3D analglyph images are preferred.



Hoyt Stearns

Scottsdale, Arizona US



From: Ron Kita [mailto:chiralex.k...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2014 7:38 AM
To: vortex-l
Subject: [Vo]:Machined Part in NASA Mars photo found



Greetings Vortex-L.



Normally..most Mars speculation images are not worth noting and

of poor content, but IMHO this is  an exemption.



http://www.examiner.com/article/mars-evidence-of-intelligent-design-earth-valve-found-nasa-image-report





There could be a simple earth fabricated valve explanation.  Note:

give the video a few seconds to see the machined circle.



Ad Astra,

Ron Kita, Chiralex



  _


 http://www.avast.com/

This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus 
http://www.avast.com/  protection is active.







---
This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection 
is active.
http://www.avast.com

[Vo]:Dr Tom Van Flandern's Mysterious Mars Lecture

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

 

Dr Tom Van Flandern's Mysterious Mars Lecture
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgzkjsMmRZg 

 

Hoyt 

 



---
This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection 
is active.
http://www.avast.com

RE: [Vo]:Anomalous Thrust Production from an RF Test Device

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

If this phenomenon is really true, it suggests a number of questions, e.g. :

 

A reactionless thrust means that the power output could be very large  since
power = thrust * speed, and if the speed is high so is the power, so COP
could be very big.

Does the RF power needed increase as the speed increases?  Speed with
respect to what -- the ether?

 

It would be trivial to make a self sustaining energy source if one of these
was spinning or moving very fastly driving a generator for its own RF
source.

 

Hoyt Stearns

Scottsdale, Arizona US

 

 

 

From: MarkI-ZeroPoint [mailto:zeropo...@charter.net] 
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 8:55 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: [Vo]:Anomalous Thrust Production from an RF Test Device

 

FYI:

I know this kind of tech has been discussed by the Collective before, but
here's some recent results from NASA.

http://www.libertariannews.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/AnomalousThrustPro
ductionFromanRFTestDevice-BradyEtAl.pdf

 

Excerpt from Abstract:

During the first (Cannae) portion of the campaign, approximately 40
micronewtons of thrust were observed in an RF resonant cavity  test article
excited at approximately 935 megahertz and  28  watts.  During  the
subsequent  (tapered  cavity)  portion  of  the  campaign,  approximately 91
micronewtons of thrust were observed in an RF resonant cavity test article
excited  at  approximately  1933  megahertz  and  17  watts.  Testing  was
performed  on  a  lowthrust  torsion  pendulum  that  is  capable  of
detecting  force  at  a  single-digit  micronewton level.  Test  campaign
results indicate that the RF resonant  cavity thruster design,  which is
unique as an electric propulsion device, is producing a force that is not
attributable to any classical  electromagnetic  phenomenon  and  therefore
is  potentially  demonstrating  an interaction with the quantum vacuum
virtual plasma.

 

-mark iverson

 



---
This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection 
is active.
http://www.avast.com

RE: [Vo]:Boeing- LENR Patent Application Jet Aircraft Engine

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

Thanks for the link.

This seems like a silly patent, putting a fan in a tube has a century of prior 
art -- Am I missing something?



From: Ron Kita [mailto:chiralex.k...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2014 1:36 PM
To: vortex-l
Subject: [Vo]:Boeing- LENR Patent Application Jet Aircraft Engine



Greetings Vortex-L,



Courtesy of Alain Cortmeurs website:

http://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/news/index.php/News/2-Boeing-patent-electric-propulsion-system-fan-for-planes-considering-LENR-powerin/



The Boeing patent application was published May 2014..not sure if this was 
covered at Vortex

Ad Astra,

Ron Kita, Chiralex



---
This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection 
is active.
http://www.avast.com

RE: [Vo]:RE: Hydrofill and LaNi5

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

Nickel is also magnetostrictive, I wonder if that might expand and contract 
entrained materials when excited with an AC magnetic field.





From: Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 11:59 AM
To: vortex-l



Dear Jack,

Please indulge me some more suggestions. The Cravens and Rossi experience 
clearly shows the importance of sizing micro particles to be black body 
temperature resonant diameter. ...



---
This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection 
is active.
http://www.avast.com

RE: [Vo]:Skeuomorphs ride again!

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

Thanks for teaching me a new word.



I sure see a lot of that in architecture:



Steep roofs that could shed snow really well  ( but it doesn't snow here, or 
rain much for that matter).

Shutters that don't close and wouldn't be needed even if they did.

Greek and Roman columns that don't hold up anything.

Wooden beam ends that don't support anything, but look as if they are 
structural.

Shingles -- taking perfectly good roofing material and cutting it up into 
little pieces.

Big masonry chimneys containing nothing but 8 diameter steel tubes inside ( 
and fireplaces with fake logs inside).

Fake dormers.

Lots of other useless protuberances.



It's really hard to find a house without those things.



P.S.  I live next to Frank Lloyd Wright's Taliesen West compound and admire his 
designs.



Hoyt Stearns

Scottsdale, Arizona US





From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 9, 2014 1:30 PM





Skeuomorph means an ornament or design on an object copied from a form of 
the object when made from another material or by other techniques, as an 
imitation metal rivet mark found on handles of prehistoric pottery. In my book 
I described this: with ingenuity and extra effort, the limitations of the old 
are imposed on the new








---
This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection 
is active.
http://www.avast.com

RE: [Vo]:A complicated vacuum

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

Interesting idea.

Would light just being absorbed in dust then re-emitted cause a delay  ( highly 
dispersive, though, I'd guess).







From: David Roberson [mailto:dlrober...@aol.com]
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 7:15 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:A complicated vacuum



Consider the following: Light could be considered the passing of 
electromagnetic fields through space.  Certainly the wavelength gets much 
larger as the frequency of the emission approaches zero Hertz.  If you take 
into account that the fact that the time of travel appears to be the same for 
light of varying wavelengths then something like this might be happening:

As the wave propagates through space it encounters charged particles.  Each of 
these will scatter the wave to a degree due to the interaction of the fields 
with the charged particles.  The net wave shape will become more complex as a 
result and should exhibit interference patterns.  I suspect that this will tend 
to cause the incoming waves to effectively slow down and approach the average 
velocity of the matter that it encounters.

Neutrinos on the other hand are only effected by gravity as far as is known.  
Could this difference in behavior cause the light to slow down relative to the 
neutrinos?



Dave





Measurements here on Earth picked up the arrival of both photons and 
neutrinos from the blast but there was a problem—the arrival of the photons was 
later than expected, by 4.7 hours...





---
This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection 
is active.
http://www.avast.com

[Vo]:Metal particles in solids aren't as fixed as they seem

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

I don't know if this is relevant, but maybe...

 

 

Metal particles in solids aren
http://www.rdmag.com/news/2014/06/metal-particles-solids-aren%E2%80%99t-fix
ed-they-seem?et_cid=4014225et_rid=54737039type=cta 't as fixed as they
seem

 

 

Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.

Scottsdale, Arizona US

Firmware guru

StimWave technologies

 

 



---
This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection 
is active.
http://www.avast.com

RE: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

Thanks, interesting data -- however --



I'm an electrical engineer and have worked in this field for 50 years, 
sometimes around high power RF sources from kHz to GHz and I can still speak ( 
much to dismay

of some :-) ). Furthermore, I have a few acquaintances who have worked around 
microwave systems, in fact some said they used to stand in front of

radar transmitter antennas to get warm in the winter, and they seem ok, but I 
have no real data to back up their health now.

I don't carry a cell phone often, though.  I'd guess that if you ingest enough 
anti-oxidants and singlet oxygen quenchers, you'd be ok.





Hoyt Stearns

Scottsdale, Arizona US



From: ChemE Stewart [mailto:cheme...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 8:17 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio



David,



It is not heating.  It is the electromagnetic discharge of the instantaneous 
pulses of microwave radiation.



Cell towers are typically 20,000 to 50,000 watts.  Read this letter



http://www.ntia.doc.gov/files/ntia/us_doi_comments.pdf



Radiation Impacts and Categorical Exclusions

There is a growing level of anecdotal evidence linking effects of non-thermal, 
non-ionizing electromagnetic radiation from communication towers on nesting and 
roosting wild birds and other wildlife in the U.S. Independent, third-party 
studies have yet to be conducted in the U.S. or Canada, although a 
peer-reviewed research protocol developed for the U.S. Forest Service by the 
Service's Division of Migratory Bird Management is available to study both 
collision and radiation impacts (Manville 2002). As previously mentioned, 
Balmori (2005) found strong negative correlations between levels of 
tower-emitted microwave radiation and bird breeding, nesting, and roosting in 
the vicinity of electromagnetic fields in Spain. He documented nest and site 
abandonment, plumage deterioration, locomotion problems, reduced survivorship, 
and death in House Sparrows, White Storks, Rock Doves, Magpies, Collared Doves, 
and other species. Though these species had historically been documented to 
roost and nest in these areas, Balmori (2005) did not observe these symptoms 
prior to construction and operation of the cellular phone towers. Balmori and 
Hallberg (2007) and Everaert and Bauwens (2007) found similar strong negative 
correlations among male House Sparrows. Under laboratory 'conditions, DiCarlo 
et al. (2002) raised troubling concerns about impacts of low-level, non-thermal 
electromagnetic radiation from the standard 915 MHz cell phone frequency on 
domestic chicken embryos- with some lethal results (Manville 2009). Given the 
findings of the studies mentioned above, field studies should be conducted in 
North America to validate potential impacts of communication tower radiation 
both direct and indirect - to migratory birds and other trust wildlife species.





 50-100 times the normal incidence of motor-neuron/ALS around the Guam radar 
station





---
This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection 
is active.
http://www.avast.com

RE: [Vo]:plasmonics with an inkjet printer!

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

I had heard that it had become a successful mushroom farm ( perfect for
keeping the crop in the dark feeding  bulls**t, just like

the gov't does to me.).

 

Sorry, I don't recall the source.

 

 

 

 

From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 7, 2014 3:14 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:plasmonics with an inkjet printer!

 

Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:

 

The complex had cost the taxpayers $2 billion to that stage,
when it was cancelled. Then, in December of that year, less than six months
after investing, zillionaire Hunt slipped on a patch of ice, broke his skull
and died - to the amazement of critics who thought that a head that hard
could not be broken.

 

What a story! I did not know this.

 

 


SS's future as a giant wormhole under Texas was thrown into
limbo, and eventually the project was shelved. Haunting photos are here -
and some kind of weird karma can be implied:

 

Haunting indeed. Wow. What a waste. What a shame they cannot find a use for
it.

The Bettmann Archive of 19 million photographs and images was sold to Bill
Gates, renamed the Corbis archive, and now lives in the Iron Mountain
National Underground Storage Facility, a former limestone quarry located 220
feet (67 m) below ground in western Pennsylvania.

 

Iron Mountain. The perfect name. It sounds like something from a James Bond
movie.


- Jed

 



---
This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection 
is active.
http://www.avast.com

RE: [Vo]:Photos of the Ivanpah solar electric generating system

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

Maybe nanobots can remove the dust :-) .

 

BTW:  I've lived in the Sonoran Desert for many years. The undisturbed
desert floor is covered in a patina (varnish) and there's almost

no dust.  It takes many decades for that to form.  Driving vehicles on it
ruins it and then there's lots of fine dust.

 

If the builders had been careful, maybe they could have avoided disturbing
that.  Maybe there's an artificial way to put it back.

You'd have to keep the off roader's at bay.

 

Hoyt Stearns

Scottsdale, Arizona US

 

 

From: ChemE Stewart [mailto:cheme...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 5, 2014 8:41 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Photos of the Ivanpah solar electric generating system

 

Solar panels and mirrors need to be cleaned almost daily if efficiencies are
to stay where they need to be. Dust is not transparent, so even just one
gram of dust per square meter of solar panel area can reduce efficiency by
http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/14786450500291834#.UbIQLWRATzc
around 40 percent. At that rate, it doesn't take long in a dusty desert for
the problem to become intractable



---
This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection 
is active.
http://www.avast.com

RE: [Vo]:[OT] 740,000 Bitcoins Missing

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

For conspiracy enthusiasts, it sounds as if it was the NSA deliberately
trying to discredit cryptocurrency ( but it will fail at that. ).

 

Hoyt

 

From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] 
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 8:40 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:[OT] 740,000 Bitcoins Missing

 

From: James Bowery 

 

If Karpeles didn't notice something was going wrong when 50% of his Bitcoin
assets were gone -- which should by ...

 



---
This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection 
is active.
http://www.avast.com

RE: [Vo]:[OT] 740,000 Bitcoins Missing

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

I'd say the same thing about socialism or fascism: Wouldn't it be nice if
human nature were different than it is,  then this would work.

The trouble is  it isn't and isn't changeable either.

 

 

 

From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 7:56 PM



Libertarianism is like Leninism: a fascinating, internally consistent
political theory with some good underlying points that, regrettably, makes
prescriptions about how to run human society that can only work if we
replace real messy human beings with frictionless spherical humanoids of
uniform density (because it relies on simplifying assumptions about human
behaviour which are unfortunately wrong).

 

- Jed

 



---
This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection 
is active.
http://www.avast.com

RE: [Vo]:[OT] 740,000 Bitcoins Missing

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

Impressive!

It's supposed to be analogous to mining gold.  The minimum value is
determined by the value of the effort
to extract it ( man-hours or power equivalents, etc. ).  That's why they
call it mining.

That sets the lower limit on its value and prevents much inflation --
brilliant.

What I like is it keeps the bureaucrats out of free trading among
individuals.

As far as thefts, it's not much different than physical cash, you just have
to keep your coins
secure -- it's up to you.


Hoyt


-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 7:25 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] 740,000 Bitcoins Missing

I've studied bitcoin and litecoin for several months now.  Both have wiki
articles which take a while to understand what's going on.  You create the
coins by solving encryption puzzles.  As more coins are mined, the puzzles
get more complex.  Bitcoin has been around for a while and are very
difficult to mine.

Look at some of these bitcoin mining setups:

https://www.google.com/search?q=bitcoin+mining+rigssource=lnmstbm=ischsa=
Xei=clANU7fzMILQsQTVuYEwved=0CAgQ_AUoAgbiw=854bih=578


---
This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection 
is active.
http://www.avast.com

RE: [Vo]:Homopolar generators and the truth of magnetism

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

For us binary geeks,   k means 1000 and K means 1024  ( usually referring to
bits or bytes in disk drives or memory ).

 

M should mean 1024*1024 but it looks like it's been pre-empted:

 

From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 7:48 AM



 

Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:

 

Do try to get the prefixes right -- k for kilo- M for mega- small m for
milli-:

http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/prefixes.html

 

 



---
This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection 
is active.
http://www.avast.com

RE: [Vo]:BrightSource

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

In my latest design, I'm using a TI MSP430FR5969 which has ferroelectric
RAM.  It's really nice to be able to go back to the

old magnetic core memory days where the RAM was non-volatile.  No boot time
needed, the system retains its current

state even if the power goes off--instant on.  There's no write degradation,
and it's fast.  FRAM ( and the other non-volatile technologies: MRAM,
SPINRAM, Phase Change RAM etc. ) are the future.

 

I foresee the day when there will only be one kind of memory to replace RAM,
ROM, FLASH,  DISKs, CACHEs etc.  No need for

a memory hierarchy at all,  just semi infinite fast terabyte storage on the
chip.

 

Hoyt Stearns

Scottsdale, Arizona US

 

From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 3:55 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:BrightSource

 

ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote:

 


...Vacuum tube computer memory replaced CRT-based memory. Vacuum tubes were
then replaced by magnetic core memory, which was replaced by semiconductor
memory. But wait, magnetic core may be staging a comeback. It might replace
semiconductor RAM again. As I said, the old is often made new again. ...




 



---
This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection 
is active.
http://www.avast.com

Incandescent lights was RE: [Vo]:X-prize proposal

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

In cold climates, they make nice localized heaters, and will probably cost less 
than what your electric furnace would have cost to run,

so the efforts to ban them is misguided.  ( They're also used in other heating 
applications and as nice load resistors for electrical

testing.)



Hoyt Stearns

Scottsdale, Arizona  (where we don't need much heat, so I'm replacing 
everything with LEDs.)



P.S. I toured the Boeing Everett Washington 747 plant years ago, and they told 
us that they didn't need any air heaters,

the lamps (metal halide lamps in that case ) and equipment were enough to heat 
that 100 acre building.







From: Eric Walker [mailto:eric.wal...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2014 1:09 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:X-prize proposal



On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 10:38 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:



Using incandescent lights is economic lunacy. Even with cold fusion it would be 
crazy, especially in commercial apps.





---
This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection 
is active.
http://www.avast.com

RE: [Vo]:tentative evidence that a coulomb field propagates rigidly

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

But if you could sense the field ( e.g. capacitor plate ), you could send
information at infinite speed -- what's  wrong with that analysis?

 

 

From: Daniel Rocha [mailto:danieldi...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2014 1:22 PM
To: John Milstone
Subject: Re: [Vo]:tentative evidence that a coulomb field propagates rigidly

 

Indeed, in the Coulomb gauge, the electrical field propagates with an
infinite speed. This is known for over a century. But this ignores what
happens magnetic field. In the end, the propagation of energy happens at c.

 

2014-02-15 13:04 GMT-02:00 fznidar...@aol.com:

I produced something like that from my model.  My model taken to the extreme
states that electrons are rigid.  One of my theorems is,  Electrons do not
bounce.  They cannot bounce their energy away and all wind up in the lowest
energy state.  This is the root cause of Fermi statistics.   

 

The quantum behavior of the electron can be explained by this interaction.
They interact through a process of elastic failure.   Elastic failure is a
classical property.  Electrons don't bounce and interact through a process
of elastic failure; sort of like a thrown egg.

Impedance matched systems do not bounce.  Electrons propagate through
channels of matching impedance.  The quantification of the velocity of the
process (1,094,000 meters per second) produced the quantum condition.

 

That's what I got out of cold fusion.

 

Frank Z

 

 





 

-- 
Daniel Rocha - RJ

danieldi...@gmail.com



---
This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection 
is active.
http://www.avast.com

RE: [Vo]:X-prize proposal

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

I'm guessing they're efficient because their near monochromatic output is near 
the peak
sensitivity of the human eye, so the comparison should be done with yellow LEDs.

Hoyt

-Original Message-
From: AlanG [mailto:a...@magicsound.us]
Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2014 2:17 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:X-prize proposal

Sodium vapor lamps are apparently the most efficient light source commercially 
available, which is why they're widely used in street lighting. At 200 
lumens/watt, they are about twice as efficient as typical LED lamps, and have 
about half the service life. Their construction uses borosilcate glass with a 
vacuum thermal insulation envelope. Sound familiar?  A discarded bulb might 
make a good core for a Celani cell.

AlanG

ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium-vapor_lamp

On 2/15/2014 12:08 PM, Eric Walker wrote:
 Another kind of light source I really have a hard time with is sodium
 vapor.  San Jose, which is just a 45 minute drive from where I live on
 a good day, uses this for their street lamps.


---
This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection 
is active.
http://www.avast.com

RE: [Vo]:New RAR photos

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

Do you see a Whitworth Quick Return Mechanism
http://iel.ucdavis.edu/projects/mechanism/quickreturn/  in there?  Any
magnets?

 

Some technical papers from Steorn show energy anomalies from asymmetric
paths towards permanent magnets,

especially with ferrites as part of the magnetic path.

 

Also .John A. M. Rice
http://steorn.com/orbo/papers/jm-rice-report-28april-2008.pdf  has his PE
reputation on the line verifying that.  ( There was also a video interview
with him on line about

that, but I can't find it now -- he was very emphatic that there was
strangeness happening.)

 

Hoyt

 

From: ucar [mailto:u...@verisoft.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 10:33 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com; u...@verisoft.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:New RAR photos

 

From the design, I see horizontal mass movements are not relevant. What is
left is vertical movement. I don't think any sinusodial movement lead to
energy production this way, otherwise we should notice such anomalies from
innumerable industrial devices. Therefore we should examine the waveform of
the masses. Second or higher orders of harmonics?

 

My favorite is the second because it make the waveform asymmetric. Asymmetry
is interesting becuse lot of intereting things based on asymmetry like
diodes, pumps, mechanism capturing energy from waves.

 

For example suppose gravitational pull down is sensitive to velocity. On a
symmetric movement (sinusoidal) net gain is zero but not on asymmetric ones.


 

Now are there common machines around us involving heavy parts to asymmetric
movements? Not yet found one.

So let design one of them. Could it resemble to RAR?

 


 



---
This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection 
is active.
http://www.avast.com

RE: [Vo]:: RAR gravity engine

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

But if the shell is instead constrained inside a straight tube, the tube
would experience a lateral force and if allowed to move

against an energy absorber, one could extract that energy.

 

Hoyt

 

From: David Roberson [mailto:dlrober...@aol.com] 
Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2014 8:35 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:: RAR gravity engine

 

You make an excellent point Nigel.   Even an artillery shell that has its
apparent path diverted by the coriolis effect is not given extra energy from
the earth, but instead travels in a free path.  The earth rotates out from
beneath the original aim point.  A similar process must be happening to the
air flowing due to wind.

Dave

 

 

 

-Original Message-
From: Nigel Dyer l...@thedyers.org.uk
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, Feb 9, 2014 10:12 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:: RAR gravity engine

And the reply is that you cant change the total angular momentum of the
system without reference to something external to said system (e.g. the
moon) so a windmill (or an RAR engine) working within the system can take
angular momentum from the earth (e.g. by spinning), but it will give it back
when it stops, and the earth will be spinning at the same rate and will not
have lost any angular momentum, so we wont have taken any energy from it.

If the RAR system is getting energy from the rotation of the earth it is
doing something with the conservation of angular momentum that current
physics cannot explain, and I would not expect that to come from a system
consisting of 50 tons of ironmongery.

Nigel

On 09/02/2014 13:33, Nigel Dyer wrote:

The trade winds are driven primarily from the convection currents that take
their energy from solar heating.  The corriolis force means that the
convection currents do not just go in a north-south direction but swing to
the east or west.  Given all this, at least some of the energy that drives a
windmill sitting in the trade wind comes from solar energy.   I suspect that
trying to work out what proportion (if at all) comes from the spin of the
earth is an interesting maths/physics/engineering question.

I shall pass it to my son to look at.

Nigel

On 09/02/2014 06:41, Bob Cook wrote:

A better scheme to extract energy from the Coriolis force is the spinning
earth creates is to erect a windmill or your sailboat in the trade winds
which are caused by this effect. 

 

Bob

 

 

 

 



---
This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection 
is active.
http://www.avast.com

RE: [Vo]:: RAR gravity engine

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

You're undoubtedly right.  It makes me wonder if these simple newtonian
problems from dynamics 101 can be so

mind blowing, what's the chances of analyzing these bizarre non-linear
maxwellian/relativistic/quantum mechanical kinds

of problems.

 

Hoyt 

 

From: Nigel Dyer [mailto:l...@thedyers.org.uk] 
Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2014 10:34 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:: RAR gravity engine

 

As I found out some years ago when I spent a couple of months on this,
whatever system you come up with, when you actually go through the maths it
comes up with the same answer, and that is that you cannot extract energy
from the rotation of the earth without reference to some external body.  You
can come up with complicated systems that makes the maths more difficult
(our gyroscopes on railway tracks travelling between the pole and the
equator was particularly 'interesting' to analyse.  I'm not sure that 15
years later my brain is still up to it, that why I get my son to do it), and
that is what may have happened with the RAR machine.   Its complexity hides
a mistake in the analysis of the forces and moments which made it appear
that it was possible to extract energy from the earths magnetic field.

Nigel

On 09/02/2014 16:16, Hoyt A. Stearns Jr. wrote:

But if the shell is instead constrained inside a straight tube, the tube
would experience a lateral force and if allowed to move

against an energy absorber, one could extract that energy.

 

Hoyt

 

From: David Roberson [mailto:dlrober...@aol.com] 
Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2014 8:35 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:: RAR gravity engine

 

You make an excellent point Nigel.   Even an artillery shell that has its
apparent path diverted by the coriolis effect is not given extra energy from
the earth, but instead travels in a free path.  The earth rotates out from
beneath the original aim point.  A similar process must be happening to the
air flowing due to wind.

Dave

 

 

 



 

 



---
This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection 
is active.
http://www.avast.com

RE: [Vo]:: RAR gravity engine

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

Perhaps the energy is coming from the rotational energy of the earth, i.e. 

Coriolis effect http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coriolis_effect 

( which as I look at it, is a fudge factor needed to account for anomalies
when you assume you're

in an inertial frame of reference, but really aren't due to the rotation of
the earth.).

 

One could extract energy from the earth by raising a weight vertically, then
letting it fall

whilst letting it's east-west tendency generate force X distance.  For
example if the

surface of the earth is moving at 1000 km/hour and you raise a weight such
that the speed is

now 1001 km/hour, as you let it fall you could extract 1 km/hour of kinetic
energy from it.

 

I think that'd be a pretty small effect, hence the huge machine to get
anything useful.

It would be interesting to see if it's orientation was north-south along its
rotational axis.

 

Hoyt Stearns

Scottsdale, Arizona US

 

 

 

-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, February 8, 2014 12:25 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:: RAR gravity engine

 

On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 9:59 PM, Jed Rothwell 
mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:

 

 Actually, the person you want to convince is Terry Blanton. He is our 

 resident expert in magnetic motors. He says he looked at some of them 

 closely and found they did not work.

 

Skeptical by experience.  We tested spirals, pulsed, shielded . . .

every configuration we could imagine and found them conservative.

But, I'm still open if someone has a new idea.



---
This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection 
is active.
http://www.avast.com

RE: [Vo]:: RAR gravity engine

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

But it's not the reduction in weight I'm referring to, it's the velocity
increase of the mass as it rises ( rω ) which absorbs energy from the earth.

Hoyt

_
From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net]
Sent: Saturday, February 8, 2014 8:05 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:: RAR gravity engine


Pretty good explanation

http://www.cleonis.nl/physics/phys256/eotvos.php

Here is how close it cuts. At 60 degrees latitude, any object co-moving with
the Earth has its weight reduced by about 0.08 percent, thanks to the
Earth's rotation… snip… but you only can capture half of that on paper, less
friction, so the difference for 10,000 kg weight due to this East-West
asymmetry is about 4 kg in measured weight, or perhaps about 400 ppm.

Very doubtful a gain of 400 ppm will cover the losses due to friction and
windage.


From: Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.

Perhaps the energy is coming from the
rotational energy of the earth, i.e.
Coriolis effect
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coriolis_effect

Hoyt,

Do we know the alignment of the structure which is housing
the device? Your explanation only works as a longitudinal effect, correct? I
like the explanation, because it does seem to require the large mass - and
the device undoubtedly is asymmetrical in one vector. The crankshaft would
need to be on the West facing wall.

It would be amusing if this were true and builders did not
realize it – so that the one in Brazil works, but the one in Illinois was
not aligned correctly :-)

According to Wiki the Eötvös effect would be the change in
perceived gravitational force caused by the change in centrifugal
acceleration resulting from eastbound or westbound velocity.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E%C3%B6tv%C3%B6s_effect




---
This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection 
is active.
http://www.avast.com
attachment: winmail.dat

RE: [Vo]:Understanding BLP: Chapter Two

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

That's gotta be the Griggs Hydrosonic Pump, still in production I think.

 

 

From: Mike Carrell [mailto:mi...@medleas.com] 
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 11:23 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Understanding BLP: Chapter Two

 

Years ago an industrial water heater was marketed sing cavitation. The sales
point was that it could use wastewater, but tests showed that it was an
over-unity device. Over-unity was not 'claimed'. I don't know if they are
still in business.  Several investigators in the CF field used cavitation as
a mode.

 

Mills, in his work over the years has collected hydrinos in liquid-nitrogen
trap and solid fuels; verified by independent laboratories. His methods and
experiments have no relation to the Papp device. As far as I know, the
physics/chemistry of the Papp device has not been clarified or duplicated.
It remains an engaging topic for speculation.

 

Mike Carrell

 

From: Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 2:16 PM
To: vortex-l
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Understanding BLP: Chapter Two

 

The cavitation experiments by LeClair show that water subjected to plasma
cooling will produce nanoparticles of solid water formed from cooling water
plasma.

 

These small crystalline particles are the active agent in many water based
nanoplasmonic LENR reactions including cavitation.

 

I believe that water that has undergone of period of cavitation or spark
discharge will contain sufficient numbers of nanoparticles to demonstrate
Papp like water explosions when subjected to intense photon irradiation.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molecular_sieve

 

A molecular sieve is a material with very small holes of precise and uniform
size. These holes are small enough to block large molecules while allowing
small molecules to pass. Many molecular sieves are used as
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desiccant desiccants. Some examples include
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Activated_charcoal Activated charcoal and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silica_gel silica gel

 

As in the movie
http://www.google.com/url?sa=trct=jq=esrc=ssource=webcd=3cad=rjaved=
0CEgQFjACurl=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FThe_Andromeda_Strainei
=kxLgUoT_BOLjsAT-7IKQDwusg=AFQjCNGjp3IWIwQyDUQcRJrZCUZFU8S53Asig2=AnTTdlHO
b36ZT1F6_3KZ-Abvm=bv.59568121,d.cWc The Andromeda Strain, these sieves can
remove the Nano crystals from the cooled plasma flow,  If hydrinos exist,
they will not be filtered out of the condensed water. If the active agent is
the nanoparticles, then the reaction will stop. 

 

To prove this, Mills can use a proper sized molecular sieve to determine
experimentally that hydrinos are the active agent in the Mills reaction (AKA
the Papp reaction and/or the LeClair reaction and/or the Santilli reaction} 

 

On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Mike Carrell mi...@medleas.com wrote:

I am pleased by the stir created by my previous post on this thread. I also
now have a better understanding of the BLP posts. Readers have been fixated
on the press release and the patent application and overlooked the paper
Solid Fuels that Form HOH Catalyst which contains the key  to
understanding.

 

HOH designates *nascent H2O* which must be formed by a chemical reaction
apart from fluid water to have energy level necessary for catalysis. Several
molecules are cited. When fluid water is added, and the mass elevated to an
activation temperature, HOH is formed and available H atoms are induced to
the hydrino state with intense release of energy. This is tested in the
paper.

 

The BLP device forms pellets which are hydrated and then placed in a
reaction chamber where a short, powerful pulse of electric current elevates
the pellet to the activation temperature, causing an explosive release of
energy which is to be captured by an MHD coverter.

 

The megawatts of power cited in the press release is scientifically
accurate, but easily misunderstood in a rush to judgment based on cursory
inspection. Apparently the pellet is not destroyed and can be rehydrated and
reused, so it s not a consumable.

 

The patent application has an illustration of two cylinder reciprocating
engine. I believe that is a 'placeholder' against anyone who claims
something of the sort as an implementation of the BLP process.

 

Members of Vortex may see a semblance to the earlier work of Papp and
Stanley Meyer who produced dramatic demonstrations that could not be
explained or duplicated. The work of Mills has exposed a class of energetic
reactions previously overlooked, but now elucidated by a comprehensive
theory and experimentation and publication.

 

Mike Carrell

 



This Email has been scanned for all viruses by Medford Leas I.T. Department.



---
This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection 
is active.
http://www.avast.com

RE: [Vo]:Basil Hiley Comments on Theoreticians and Experimental Science

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

An analogy may be made with the development of steam engines -- They were built 
long before the science of thermodynamics was developed -ne, it was

probably developed because of steam engines.



After a few hundred people were killed with boiler explosions, strict 
requirements were instituted such as certifying boilermakers and requiring 
periodic

hydrostatic testing of pressure vessels.





List of boiler explosions 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_boiler_explosions





From: David Roberson [mailto:dlrober...@aol.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 11:46 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Basil Hiley Comments on Theoreticians and Experimental Science



Axil,

It is premature to worry about understanding how LENR operates.  One day it 
might appear very simple and we wonder why we did not understand it earlier.

One look at a microprocessor and you have to realize how complicated it is, but 
we know how to make them by the boat full now.  My belief is that the same 
thing will happen with LENR, but with the exception that LENR is far simpler.  
The big concern that I have about LENR is whether or not it can be turned into 
a dangerous weapon.  Again, it is premature to know the answer to this 
question, but that might be one reason why the government has seen it necessary 
to withhold funding since they know something that is not published.

So for now, I think it is best to do our best to place this important 
technology into use.  The complicated understanding will have to wait until 
later.  My bet is that it is quite simple once you have the materials purified.

Dave









---
This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection 
is active.
http://www.avast.com

RE: [Vo]:[OT]Star Object Ejection Process

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

When I read about the damage to Earth from extraterrestrial objects impacting 
based on size, it seems they always use speeds close to escape velocity.

I've always wondered why is that -- It seems to me that objects could come in 
at any velocity up to infinity ( or relativistic equivalent energy of infinity 
).



What would happen if a million mile per hour 1 ton rock impacted?







From: David Roberson [mailto:dlrober...@aol.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2014 11:09 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT]Star Object Ejection Process



Well, I guess that program makes sense of this discovery.  Now, we might need 
to worry about the multitude of other objects that are out there heading in 
random directions.  I have a suspicion that the Earth and other planets and 
moons have been impacted by this type of debris in the distant past.  Let's 
hope it does not occur too frequently.

Dave







-Original Message-
From: James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, Jan 10, 2014 12:53 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT]Star Object Ejection Process

As luck would have it:




Surprising new class of “hypervelocity stars” discovered escaping the galaxy




http://news.vanderbilt.edu/2014/01/hypervelocity-stars/



On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 9:16 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:

Steven,



A few years back I also wrote a program that handled a central large star like 
object with another orbiting it.  I had a plan to eventually include a small 
number of other objects that were to interact gravitationally, but never found 
the time to complete the project.  I was curious about how different attraction 
laws effected the orbits of planets, and the answer was loud and clear; forget 
about anything except for the second order case!  I observed the elliptical 
orbits and that was about the end of that project.



I am happy to hear that you did something similar but much more extensive.  If 
you get a chance, take a look at that program that I was mentioning (Planets).  
One item that I find particularly interesting is that you can call up a flood 
of small planets to interact simultaneously.   The behavior that you witness is 
quite impressive and it makes the fact that our solar system is relatively 
stable seem fortunate.



I did notice that very few moons appear orbiting my planets.  My suspicion is 
that most of the moons seen today are a result of collisions between the main 
planet and smaller objects.  Apparently the blast kicks out a mass of material 
that then condenses into the many moons.  Each of these mirrors the original 
formation of the sun and its system.  I am confident that some of the early 
moons found themselves ejected by their brothers on occasion.



If you are curious, you can load Linux in parallel with your standard system 
that preserves your original operating system and data.  That is what I did to 
be able to use whichever one I desire.  Unfortunately, I went overboard and now 
have three Windows Vista systems and two Linux systems present on this one 
computer.  Hey, I had the 3 hard drives available! :-)



Dave





-Original Message-
From: OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, Jan 3, 2014 8:39 pm
Subject: RE: [Vo]:[OT]Star Object Ejection Process

Hi Dave,



I tend to concur with your suspicions that the effect is most likely real, this 
based on my own computations of simple planetary orbits. I have used both 
single precision and double precision in my simulations. Rounding off errors 
appeared to be negligible. As far as my own personal observations went I saw 
little if no difference between SP vs DP.



A science program like NOVA recently did a program on how NASA began to use 
sophisticated gravity assist trajectories in order to shoot satellites out in 
to further regions of the solar system. The point being, if you have a lot of 
extra patience the trip can be performed with far less rocket fuel than 
traditional means.



On a related matter, a couple of months ago you may recall I posted on Vort a 
personal discovery I made concerning what I later learned is actually a 
derivative of Kepler’s 3rd law, that the square of the orbital period of a 
planet is directly proportional to the cube of the semi-major axis of its 
orbit.  I stumbled across a much more simplified observation of the 3rd law: 
All orbits that share the same orbital period also share the same distance in 
their major radius. I didn’t know at the time whether this observation had been 
made by others, so I posted my findings out on Vortex. See:



http://personalpen.orionworks.com/kepler4thlaw.htm



Someone eventually was kind enough to point me to a link that correlated my 
personal observation with Kepler’s 3rd law. Yes, the observation had already 
been made. Alas, my hope for fame (and bragging rights) had been dashed. 
Nevertheless, it was fun to discover the fact that 

RE: [Vo]:[OT]Star Object Ejection Process

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

Thanks for the link.



This reminds me of a 1945 science fiction story Things Pass By



http://www.troynovant.com/Franson/Leinster/Things-Pass-By.html



Not about an impact, but just the effects of very fast but small objects 
passing nearby with huge relativistic mass -- enough to cause earthquakes etc.









From: Eric Walker [mailto:eric.wal...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 8:55 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT]Star Object Ejection Process



On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 6:13 AM, Hoyt A. Stearns Jr. hoyt-stea...@cox.net 
wrote:



What would happen if a million mile per hour 1 ton rock impacted?



There's an interesting xkcd writeup on a similar question (posed by an eight 
year-old):



If a meteor made out of diamond and 100 feet in diameter was traveling at the 
speed of light and hit the earth, what would happen to it?”



http://what-if.xkcd.com/20/



Eric





---
This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection 
is active.
http://www.avast.com

RE: [Vo]:[OT] ten core beliefs that most scientists take for granted

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

Sir William Crookes also showed non-physical like events under strict
scientific protocols:

 

http://www.atisma.com/spiritart/crookes.htm

 

Wow, it just occurred to me that Rossi's secret ingredient surely is
Ectoplasm.

 

Hoyt Stearns

Scottsdale, Arizona US

 

 

 

From: leaking pen [mailto:itsat...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2014 6:59 PM
To: vortex-l
Subject: Re: [Vo]:[OT] ten core beliefs that most scientists take for
granted

 

Heh i've been playing around with that idea since reading a book on chemical
memories when I was 12. 

 

On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 2:26 AM, Nigel Dyer l...@thedyers.org.uk wrote:


My suspicion is that many of Sheldrakes 'non-materialist' ideas, such as the
idea that memories are not just physical traces in the brain will turn out
to be true, but will also turn out to be materialist and grounded in the
science that we already understand.  

Nigel

 

On 08/01/2014 06:36, jwin...@cyllene.uwa.edu.au wrote:

On 8/01/2014 1:03 PM, Rich Murray wrote:

...
The Scientific Creed and the Credibility Crunch for Materialism

by Rupert Sheldrake, Ph.D; biologist and author of Science Set Free
http://www.deepakchopra.com/book/view/927 
...


Worth taking a look at the Sheldrake interview relating to the Scole
Experiment http://www.victorzammit.com/evidence/scole.htm  (see near end
of last youtube video on the page as well as in the main 1.5hr program).
Having seen what he saw with his naked eyes, it is hardly surprising that he
is no longer a fundamentalist of scientific materialism persuasion (if he
ever was)!

 

 



---
This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection 
is active.
http://www.avast.com

RE: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC? Goodyear blimps to be replaced with zeppelins

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

With ECAT's just plain old hot air balloons have infinite endurance.

 

From: David Roberson [mailto:dlrober...@aol.com] 
Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2014 3:44 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC? Goodyear blimps to be replaced with zeppelins

 

Hey, if they really want to make a light ship, then figure a way to enclose
a vacuum.  With material science advancing at the rate that it is that might
actually become feasible one day.

Another idea would be to come up with a way to thermally insulate the
container to a super degree and then heat the gas inside to a high
temperature to supply the pressure needed to keep the container from
crushing. :-)

Dave

 

 

 

-Original Message-
From: Chris Zell chrisz...@wetmtv.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, Jan 2, 2014 4:56 pm
Subject: RE: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC? Goodyear blimps to be replaced with zeppelins

Saying except for the explosion is rather Pythonesque.  Hopefully, they
have enough helium.



---
This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection 
is active.
http://www.avast.com

RE: [Vo]:Proton Mass not stable?

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

FWIW:  Analysis of proton mass using Dewey B. Larson's Reciprocal system:

http://reciprocalsystem.org/PDFa/Subatomic%20Mass%20Recalculated%20(Peret,%2
0Bruce).pdf

http://www.reciprocalsystem.com/rs/cwkvk/secondary.htm






_
From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] 
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2013 9:25 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: [Vo]:Proton Mass not stable?


From: Mark Iverson (about 9 months ago):  This story might tie in to what
Jones has been saying in a number of vortex postings. Is the radius of a
proton wrong?

http://phys.org/news/2013-02-textbook-radius-proton-wrong.html

In answering Mark, back then, a little more detail was added to the
contention that the proton, despite being a fundamental particle - is
surprisingly NOT very well known, physically !  To requote Asimov: The most
exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is
not Eureka! (I found it!) but rather hmm ... that's funny ... ...



---
This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection 
is active.
http://www.avast.com
attachment: winmail.dat

RE: [Vo]:In honor of the Hour of Code initiative

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

When I heard about APL, as a programmer, I had to find out how programs could 
be written in a language that doesn't need loops or conditional statements ( 
IF ),

so I wrote Conway's game of life in APL as an exercise.  In procedural 
languages like C, there are three nested loops and it takes a couple of pages 
of source code for life.



The resulting program is just one line of APL.  To paraphrase Ken Iverson, the 
inventor,  a computer should be told the rules of the game but not how to play 
it, that's the computer's job

to figure out and that's the view I took.



After that exercise, I started looking at problems in a different way even if 
programming in C or FORTH,  kind of looking sideways at a problem.

I recommend learning these different types of languages just to get new ways to 
look at tasks.



(It was a bit surprising for me to realize how I can get  stuck in one way of 
solving problems and not considering many other ways at looking at them.)



Another way to look at it is the APL life program is a description of the 
transform from the state of the screen to the next state according to the rules,

it processes the entire screen in parallel.



Programming in  PROLOG, LISP,  or even AWK ( which executes more every 
line left to right at once, rather than top to bottom) would no doubt lead 
to other

ways of looking at problems.



Ken Iverson is now involved in the language J (http://www.jsoftware.com/ ) 
which is an extended APL, but uses normal characters.



Hoyt Stearns

Scottsdale, Arizona US





From: Eric Walker [mailto:eric.wal...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 9:22 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:In honor of the Hour of Code initiative



On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 5:38 AM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:



A Programming Language (APL) has an interesting provenance:



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APL_(programming_language)



Here is a simple function from the article that is part of an implementation of 
the common life program with the mutating lifeforms:



life←{↑1 ⍵∨.∧3 4=+/,¯1 0 1∘.⊖¯1 0 1∘.⌽⊂⍵}



This strikes me more as a mathematical notation than a statement in a modern 
programming language.  Mathematica statements are much easier to read.  I think 
there was a special keyboard that allowed you to input each of these characters.



Eric





---
This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection 
is active.
http://www.avast.com

RE: [Vo]:how will massive oil discovery impact LENR?

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

 

 

From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 2:58 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:how will massive oil discovery impact LENR?

 

I always have mixed feelings about things like this. On one hand I hate to
see people having to pay so much for gasoline. 

 

Another way to look at Paying so much is that in the 50's, a US silver
quarter would buy a gallon of gasoline.  Today a pre 1964 US quarter will

buy about a gallon and a half, so the real price has declined.  You can't
measure things with a super elastic yardstick!

 

 

On the other hand, without price pressure there is no incentive to develop
alternative fuels, better batteries or even cold fusion.

 

- Jed

 

RE: [Vo]:Parallels between Ball Lightning and LENR

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

Aviation Week had an article about compact toroids they also called
photon torpedos
apparently they're stable and can be used as directed energy weapons.

The device discharges large capacitor banks along a small aluminum tube
which
creates a stable plasma toroid.

Maybe it's gone black.

Aviation Week and Space Technology, November 3, 1997, v. 147, p. 29.

Includes photos of the apparatus.

Hoyt Stearns
Scottsdale, Arizona US





-Original Message-
From: David L Babcock [mailto:ol...@rochester.rr.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 5:33 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Parallels between Ball Lightning and LENR

It was twilight, among towering clouds, high over some mid state when I saw
a bright signal flare sweep up to about the plane's altitude from clouds
below, and fall back. Then a second, from a different location. 
No lightning. Paths and velocities very projectile-ish, not rockets. But
considering the altitude, definitely not signal flares.

Unless they were tracer artillery shells. Wildly unlikely, but so -they
say!- is ball lightning.

RE: [Vo]:OT (but not entirely): Circos: Free graphic software that helps visualize scientific data.

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

Not using that program but here's one based on the Reciprocal System's
analysis of what atoms really are --

combinations of motions:

 

http://www.lrcphysics.com/wheel/

 

Hoyt Stearns

Scottsdale, Arizona US

 

 

From: OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson [mailto:orionwo...@charter.net] 
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 7:48 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: [Vo]:OT (but not entirely): Circos: Free graphic software that
helps visualize scientific data.

 

I've seen some amazing diagrams produced from this software. It's written in
perl, believe it or not!

 

Go to:

 

http://circos.ca/

 

and take a look at an extraordinary number of diagrams produced from this
s/w.

 

I wonder if would be feasible to produce a periodic table using Circos'
circular diagram layout, including isotopes and stability factors per
element. Would unexpected patters be revealed?

 

RE: [Vo]:Yum

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

 

 

From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, August 5, 2013 10:41 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Yum

 

blaze spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote:

 

Second, cooked red meat is pretty bad for you..

 

I doubt that it is bad for you in moderation. People have been eating it for
hundreds of thousands of years. Before that we ate uncooked red meat for
millions of years, and wa-a-a-y before that we were insectivores.

...vegetarian. Except most people there eat lots of fish. 

 

Maybe it's the high methyl-mercury and high concentration of radioactive
isotopes in fish :-) .

 

 

 

[Vo]:Mars critters and artifacts.

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

 

Possibly silicon based?

 

http://www.marsisalive.it/

http://www.martianlifeforms.com/

 

 

Hoyt Stearns

Scottsdale Arizona US

RE: [Vo]:On deception

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

Lately I've come to embrace a different understanding  and more tolerant
view of debunkers, a metaphysical view if you will:

 

As an analogy, consider that people are playing a virtual reality game (
they're in their own private holodeck ).  The game they're playing

is private and had a set of rules when the game began. 

 

Rossians  Vortexians like us  are butting in and trying to change the rules
in the middle of the game, which they consider  just rude.

(Imagine you're playing a game of chess and outsiders decide you should give
Knights the power of Rooks also.  -- You'd just be

told to buzz off ).  This is all subconscious.

 

So let them play their games.

 

Hoyt Stearns

Scottsdale, Arizona US

 

 

 

From: John Berry [mailto:berry.joh...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 4:50 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:On deception

 

There is one very very simple truth.

 

Many will never believe right up until a technology is widely available.

 

No demonstration could convince them, maybe not even if they ran it
themselves.

...

RE: [Vo]:Heating an Olympic pool to boiling

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

It occurred to me that if heat energy becomes free enough, you could use it
to sterilize a swimming

pool by putting the heater in the circulation pump line and boiling, then
condensing the water back to its

original temperature briefly as it travels through the plumbing.   A
circulation pump can be on the order of 

100 gallons/minute, so it's still lots of power, but most would be recovered
during the condensing phase.

 

Hoyt Stearns

Scottsdale, Arizona US

 

 

From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2013 6:39 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: [Vo]:Heating an Olympic pool to boiling

 

There has been some discussion here as to whether you could heat an Olympic
pool to boiling with a 900 W heater. The answer is no, you cannot. In fact
there is no way you could even detect this much heat with that much water.
As I mentioned that is the heat from two people swimming. That ...

 

RE: [Vo]:Watson, here

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

Two more questions to ask Watson:

 

1. What is Rossi's catalyst?

 

2. Is it warmer in the city or in the summer  :-) .

 

 

 

From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 7:29 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Watson, here

 

Here's the thing about Watson: this is a production model computer. It is
not just a one-time tour de force computer that beats the world chess
champion or wins at Jeopardy.

 

I do not know if the prototype model that won at Jeopardy is what IBM will
sell, but it is clear they intend to start selling machines based on this
technology, with this kind of computing power. They are selling them for
practical applications, for real money. This is not a laboratory curiosity.

 

This puts IBM back in the leading role in the computer business. IBM has
never had the most advanced, cutting edge technology. That was never their
forte. They had the most reliable and the most practical machines up until
the late 1980s. Now they are positioning themselves at the cutting edge.
From a business point of view I would say this is remarkable, and I would
say they have guts.

 

- Jed

 

[Vo]:Re: AI phone call

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

I think I just got one of those customer satisfaction phone calls from what
seemed like an

artificial intelligence personage, although it was very realistic.  Next
time I'll ask a question during the interview, something like

What is 2 + 5?  ( or maybe what is the meaning of life :-)  and see what
happens.

 

Hoyt Stearns

Scottsdale, Arizona US

 

 

RE: [Vo]:Hagelstein's editorial

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

 

Then there's Dr. Simoncini ( cancerfungus.com ) that cures cancer with
baking soda, but that's too cheap to be credible :-) .

 

From: Chris Zell [mailto:chrisz...@wetmtv.com] 
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 11:27 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Hagelstein's editorial

 

It is well that you bring up the subject of medical procedure (transfusions)
because this area is loaded with egregious examples of verifiable facts that
are ignored - often due to prejudice and moneyed interests.

 

My doctor marvels at my dramatic improvement in blood chemistry but denies
that is has to do with a low carb diet.  They don't work

 

Do a Google on Vermox and observe how a potentially dramatic treatment
against cancer was dropped without explanation.  You can read the background
on Pub Med, if you have access. They halted production before large scale
human tests were done and it was already on the shelf, used to combat
intestinal parasites especially in 3rd world countries. It was
cheap..

 

I can remember how the Japanese proved that simple extracts of seaweed can
have powerful effects against tumor growth - 30 years ago.  From time to
time, you'll see the subject pop up in the news - but nothing will ever be
done with it.

 

Got Mononucleosis?  Clinical studies show that huge doses of vitamin c can
stop it in 2-3 days.  I know because I've done this twice (swollen glands,
low fever, etc)  Give it time, we've only known this for a couple of
decades!

 

Shall I go on?  (sounds like a rant, sorry)

RE: [Vo]:IBM Stop Motion Film of Cu Atoms

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

 

Actually it could be much better than one bit per atom.

 

It depends on how accurately the distance between atoms can be measured and
how closely they can be packed. 

On a 2D surface there might be an analogy to linear RLL codes.

 

Current digital storage systems use Run length limited (RLL) codes where
it's the distance between bits that contain the information.

 

Theoretically you only need two samples to get lots of bits - if you can
measure the distance to an accuracy of 1:4096 you get twelve bits per atom!

 

( Last I knew, hard disks use RLL 2,7 meaning minimum space is 2 units and
max is 7 units, and CDs use RLL 8,14.)

 

 

From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2013 7:51 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:IBM Stop Motion Film of Cu Atoms

 

Come to think of it, this means that in principle IBM could store data at
one bit per atom starting now. Perhaps the biggest difficulty would be
finding the data again.

 

I guess this is the lower limit to data storage. I doubt that subatomic
storage will ever be possible

 

RE: [Vo]:New image, and site

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

Surprisingly enough, I did feel a warmth where it says Feel over the
circle even when I had my eyes closed and moved the image to a random place
first!

What's your algorithm for designing these drawings?

 

 

From: John Berry [mailto:berry.joh...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 3:40 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: [Vo]:New image, and site

 

Hey, I have made a new image that might be more apparent for some.


And a website however basic/shoddy:

 

http://aethericsciences.net78.net/

 

The first image (after the text), open it up in a new window so it displays
are the correct size preferably.

 

John

RE: [Vo]:New image, and site

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

I didn't feel anything from the new top image with a brief test.

 

Regardless of whether there's anything to this or not, it seems like a good
metaphor the feelings of most scientists

towards LENR ( or any other new paradigm ).  Most know there's nothing to
it, so won't even bother to investigate,

or worse, will debunk it.

 

 

 

From: John Berry [mailto:berry.joh...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 6:51 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:New image, and site

 

Well that is a pretty good result, Reload the page and recheck the top image
for me, I improved it.

 

Anyway, to your question, that particular one is based on an angle that I
discovered I was holding my fingers on.

I tried to work out what it was and it seemed that 360/14= 25.714 deg worked
best.

So that angle plays a major part, additionally I have a gradient of
luminance based on a number pattern the energy seems drawn to.

Simply 1,  1+2=3,  1+2+3=6 and so on. giving a series of 1,3,6, 10, 15 and
so on.

 

Inside the circle the ratio of some pixels is 137 to 1 which gives a fine
structure ratio.

 

The thing that looks like a collection of Egyptian Ankh stuck together is
based of an accidental discovery as I was putting a pin in my watch, I noted
energy was hitting me, the wire I was using was entering the pin which is
folded in 2, so the energy shoots back out interrupting the input flow.

 

This creates strong pressure.

 

Additionally I use green to stop energy, as an insulator, this might be why
plants are mostly green to capture the suns energy.

If this is because it is in the middle of the visual spectrum I don't know,
but if there is a peek in a frequency with a drop off in higher and lower
frequencies, aetheric energy will become somewhat solidified.

 

Conversely if instead of a peak in the middle there is a rise toward one end
and a sudden cut off, energy will be moved either up or down, moving energy
down seems to solidity towards material and up frees energy from matter into
the aether, or so it seems.

 

But lowering energy in this manner can create unplesant energy, raising
seems better.

 

Additionally this image tries to take advantage of creating an interference
pattern, this can cause a great acceleration of energy.

This can be done many ways, but if two parallel paths and one shorter there
will be an interference pattern between the 2, additionally if the signal is
slowed in one due to the conductor being different an interference pattern
will arise.

 

There is more in just that image, but that is most of it

 

John

 

 

On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 1:05 AM, Hoyt A. Stearns Jr. hoyt-stea...@cox.net
wrote:

Surprisingly enough, I did feel a warmth where it says Feel over the
circle even when I had my eyes closed and moved the image to a random place
first!

What's your algorithm for designing these drawings?

 

 

From: John Berry [mailto:berry.joh...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 3:40 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: [Vo]:New image, and site

 

Hey, I have made a new image that might be more apparent for some.


And a website however basic/shoddy:

 

http://aethericsciences.net78.net/

 

The first image (after the text), open it up in a new window so it displays
are the correct size preferably.

 

John

 

RE: [Vo]:Yildiz motor in Geneva -- ran 5.5 hours then broke down

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

The magnetization energy of neo magnets is small, hardly worth considering
as a power source.

 

I think it's about the energy recovered from just one traverse of a magnetic
material from infinity to contact.

  It's related to  the area inside the hysteresis curve.  I have the figures
somewhere,

but can't find them right now.

 

Neo magnets don't demagnetize even in repulsion after many millions of
cycles.

You should look elsewhere for sources of energy.

 

Since magnetic phenomena are highly non linear in both time and space (
which may result in emergent properties) , these kinds of problems are
notoriously 

unfathomable ( incomputable except via numerical methods and most models
don't even consider magnetic viscosity Sv,

whereby the response of a ferromagnetic material to an applied field is
delayed from nanoseconds to seconds depending 

on the material ( for neo, it's about 1 msec , which I  personally measured
)).

 

Hoyt Stearns

Scottsdale, Arizona US

 

 

 

From: David Roberson [mailto:dlrober...@aol.com] 
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2013 6:42 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Yildiz motor in Geneva -- ran 5.5 hours then broke down

 

Eric, 

 

That is a good start at the procedure.  Can you come up with some
calculations to fill in the blanks?

 We need to have an idea of the total number of joules of energy contained
within a powerful magnetic of known ...

 

RE: [Vo]:Yildiz motor in Geneva -- ran 5.5 hours then broke down

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

Yes.

 

From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 2:10 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Yildiz motor in Geneva -- ran 5.5 hours then broke down

 

Hoyt A. Stearns Jr. hoyt-stea...@cox.net wrote:

 

The magnetization energy of neo magnets is small, hardly worth considering
as a power source.

 

This means the energy needed to make the domains line up, right?

 

- Jed

 

[Vo]:Some info from Steorn's research

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wD6gT3QIlpY

 

http://www.steorn.com/orbo/papers/jm-rice-report-28april-2008.pdf

 

http://www.steorn.com/orbo/papers/Exploration_of_BH_Time_Effects_STRN-TR-APR
-0001-0001.pdf

http://www.steorn.com/orbo/papers/asymmetry-and-energy-in-magnetic-systems-r
ev-1.0.pdf

 

 

 

 

RE: [Vo]:Ocean net flow

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

But the distance to the center is constant, and speed is dx/dt so it's 0 :-)
.

-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 3:28 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Ocean net flow

On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 5:18 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net
wrote:
 Terry...
  ... The relative speed...

 Relative to what?


A point at the center of the earth.

[Vo]:Meteor crater

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

What's burning in this crater -- nickel-iron powder?

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cT8vZ-7vxQfeature=youtu.be

 

Hoyt Stearns

Scottsdale, Arizona US

RE: [Vo]:NHK: ocean levels may rise 9 m by 2100

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

It doesn't have to melt, just slide off into the drink.

 

Hoyt Stearns

Scottsdale, Arizona US

 

From: David Roberson [mailto:dlrober...@aol.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 12:08 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:NHK: ocean levels may rise 9 m by 2100

 

Why would you think that these guys have better capability than the IPCC
group that predicts far less sea level rise?  Do they have some magic dust
or a new improved crystal ball? 

 

On occasions a new concept is revealed which no one previously thought of
that results in enormous change.  I am not one to say that what you suggest
is not possible, but I would put a large bet on the likelihood that it will
not come about.   We need to think through circumstances and not jump like
scared rabbits at every broken twig.  OK, I admit that the climate change
might not be linear as you point out.  So, when will we begin to see these
effects to such a degree that it will become obvious?  If we must wait 50
years, then the rate of change required becomes far more difficult to
believe.

 

Also, you make a comparison that is nonsense.  It takes time to melt ice as
well as a lot of energy.  Have you looked at the temperature in Antarctica
recently?  I suggest you make a summer visit to the interior and take off
your coat for a while if you want to see how quick the ice is going to melt.
Now, where is the extra energy coming from that is going to turn this ice
into water?  

 

The task that these guys have taken upon themselves is miles above their
heads.  Did you carefully read the article and find an out just in case
their theory is not accurate?  That type of nonsense is typical of the
propaganda being spewed by folks with an agenda of some kind.   We are not
required to take seriously every statement made by every researcher Jed as
that is the best recipe I know of leading to paralysis due to overload of
your mind.  Nothing would ever be accomplished if intelligent people are
incapable of making decisions as to what they think has credibility and what
does not.  The burden is upon the ones that make such fantastic claims to
prove that they are right, until that time we are under no obligation.

 

Dave 



-Original Message-
From: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, Jan 30, 2013 1:24 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:NHK: ocean levels may rise 9 m by 2100

David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: 

 

If the level is going to rise by that amount, then I would expect to see a
meter rise every decade, which is not happening.

 

That is nonsense. That is a completely unwarranted assumption. You need to
read the papers.

 

That is a bit like saying that if a critical mass of uranium will explode
with 20 kt of force, half that mass will explode with 10 kt. It does not
work that way. Many phenomena are not linear.

 

These conclusions may be incorrect but to dismiss them as a fairy tale is
unscientific, and disrespectful to the researchers. That is a lot like the
way people who know nothing about cold fusion dismiss cold fusion results.
People who know the least are usually the ones who are quickest to dismiss a
conclusion.

 

- Jed

 

RE: [Vo]:Interesting speculative theory from Krivit on Boeing batteries

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

Maybe the higher radiation environment at high altitude facilitates LENR.

Hoyt Stearns
Scottsdale, Arizona US


-Original Message-
From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 4:02 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Interesting speculative theory from Krivit on Boeing
batteries

As far back as 2005, we were suggesting here on vortex that the high failure
rate of Lithium batteries could have a LENR connection

http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg09241.html



-Original Message-
From: pagnu...@htdconnect.com 

Are Nuclear Reactions Causing Boeing Dreamliner Battery Fires?
Jan. 17, 2013 - By Steven B. Krivit

Boeing's new 787 Dreamliners use high-capacity lithium-ion batteries.
These batteries have materials similar to those used in the most common type
of low-energy nuclear reaction experiment. Boeing is considering LENRs for
future aerospace applications. On June 22 and 23, 2011, Boeing
representatives met with NASA and the Federal Aviation Authority to discuss
such applications. Will they meet again to consider the possible
relationship between the battery fires and LENRs?

http://news.newenergytimes.net/2013/01/17/are-nuclear-reactions-causing-boei
ng-dreamliner-battery-fires/

RE: [Vo]:Interesting speculative theory from Krivit on Boeing batteries

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

Thanks. ...so if Boeing does all their battery testing on the ground, they'd
miss it.

Hoyt

-Original Message-
From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 5:08 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Interesting speculative theory from Krivit on Boeing
batteries

Excellent point, Hoyt.

There is solid evidence that a small amount of radiation stimulates LERN by
a factor of thousands of times more than its own energy content. This
relates to quantum correlation fields.



-Original Message-
From: Hoyt A. Stearns Jr. 

Maybe the higher radiation environment at high altitude facilitates LENR.


-Original Message-
From: Jones Beene 

As far back as 2005, we were suggesting here on vortex that the high failure
rate of Lithium batteries could have a LENR connection

http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg09241.html


-Original Message-
From: pagnu...@htdconnect.com 

Are Nuclear Reactions Causing Boeing Dreamliner Battery Fires?
Jan. 17, 2013 - By Steven B. Krivit

Boeing's new 787 Dreamliners use high-capacity lithium-ion batteries.
These batteries have materials similar to those used in the most common type
of low-energy nuclear reaction experiment. Boeing is considering LENRs for
future aerospace applications. On June 22 and 23, 2011, Boeing
representatives met with NASA and the Federal Aviation Authority to discuss
such applications. Will they meet again to consider the possible
relationship between the battery fires and LENRs?

Re: [Vo]:Unobtainium and Beryllium

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

How about using gadolinium:
http://unitednuclear.com/index.php?main_page=product_infocPath=16_17_69products_id=141

I bought a beryllium marble from them a few years ago for a coupe of bucks,
but they aren't listing it anymore.

Hoyt Stearns





On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:

 *If I want a small piece of beryllium that will fit in the well of an
 Am-241 source, to get maximum neutron flux, I might arrange to buy some
 pieces like that.*
  This is wrong thinking. To get the most neutron intensity, a very thick
 piece of beryllium (Be) is required to increase the probability of alpha
 particle interaction with a Be atom.

 A very thin piece of Be will not convert all the alphas to neutrons. After
 the neutron is produced, it will not be absorbed by Be atoms so a thick
 berillium tagret will not affect the neutron.
  Cheers: axil


 On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 5:28 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax 
 a...@lomaxdesign.comwrote:

 At 01:51 AM 12/8/2012, Eric Walker wrote:

 On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 10:47 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax mailto:
 a...@lomaxdesign.coma**b...@lomaxdesign.com a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote:

 Would it cut cleanly, if thin enough, or would it crush? There could be
 a way to pull this off safely, with capture and proper disposal of any
 dust. Do it under water? Waste disposal? So ... maybe. But that's not for
 now.


 The problem is that you don't find out if it what you did was safe for
 five years, and then you have a 1/3 chance of dying or being disabled.


 The danger of beryllium is real and subtle. However, it's also being
 exaggerated here. If one is exposed to serious levels of airborn beryllium,
 which are pretty small, yes, even a subacute exposure have no symptoms for
 many years (sometimes 20) and can pop up years later as very serious
 chronic disease. But the experience with beryllium was with workers at
 beryllium plants who were exposed to the material, at substantial levels,
 day after day, for years, and if those people contracted berylliosis,
 *then* there was a one-third chance of a seriously harmful outcome, like up
 to and including death.

 If I were to take a piece of thin beryllium foil and cut it with some
 snips, once or a few times, the chance of serious beryllium exposure is
 extremely small. And even that bold move I'm not going to engage in
 without a lot more research, and possible some serious precautions. I'm
 going to experiment first with my solid piece of beryllium, which is very
 safe. As long as I don't heat it seriously, or do any of a number of other
 unwise things.

 I have children. I have utterly no willingness to risk their health. If I
 were to do anything more bold than allowing this piece of beryllium to sit
 on top of an Am-241 smoke detector source, I would not do it here. And I
 might easily not do it at all. If I want a small piece of beryllium that
 will fit in the well of an Am-241 source, to get maximum neutron flux, I
 might arrange to buy some pieces like that. There are places selling
 machined beryllium. And I'd attempt to recover my cost by selling the
 pieces for exactly that application.

 The children will not be allowed to handle the beryllium. They will know
 about it, though, and they will know that it is dangerous. Even though it
 appears that one can swallow pieces of beryllium metal without harm, we
 will not run that experiment.

 Here is what I will say to anyone considering using beryllium. It's a
 totally cool substance, in many ways. However, anyone who is going to
 handle it should study the MSDS guidance, and take it very seriously. Many
 people have died from contact with beryllium. Airborn, it is totally nasty.

 There can be a bit of hysteria around it, see http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/
 **2007/02/08/banned-beryllium/http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2007/02/08/banned-beryllium/

 It's a judgment call. Beryllium has been used for jet aircraft brakes.
 That generates dust. I can see why people would get upset. Bad News for Air
 Force Mechanics. Beryllium for an engine piston, as described in the
 f1fanatic site probably does not emit serious beryllium in engine exhaust,
 or else the piston would wear out quickly. But that could be addressed by
 testing.

 I'm looking forward to handling the metal, it is reputed to be amazingly
 light, very palpably so. Source after source said that beryllium metal
 parts were not a problem, even while warning very seriously about dust
 (metal, oxide, or salts of beryllium). Absorption through the skin does not
 appear to be a problem, doesn't seem to happen. They say that if a piece of
 beryllium is lodged beneath the skin, remove it... that does seem like a
 good idea, eh?

RE: [Vo]:Back to Reality on Earth, my friends, please!

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

Fascinating technology!  My first thoughts mirror Feynman's -- impossible --
how could this possibly work?
Since it generates no heat, the pressure must come from something else.
Upon reflection, using the ideal gas law pv=nRT,
the way to get pressure without heat would be to increase n, the number of
particles in the cylinder (moles) so pv ~n .

Maybe each gas atom splits into multiple particles ( or virtual particles;
non local particles? ).
Each new particle must have the same average kinetic energy as the original.

What are your thoughts?

Hoyt Stearns
  -Original Message-
  From: OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson [mailto:orionwo...@charter.net]
  Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2012 7:38 AM
  To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
  Subject: RE: [Vo]:Back to Reality on Earth, my friends, please!


   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EgT3G6lKno



  Interesting video. Actually, nothing was demonstrated. We only see the
prototype being assembled as the inventor rambles on about the design 
theory behind the device. I did enjoy listening to him. He comes across as a
very personable individual... not that that proves anything either
pro-or-con.



  Being ignorant about the alleged claims and technology behind this device
I don't know what to make of it. I gather it's derived from highly
controversial PAP technology. This is a topic that has been discussed within
the Collective before.

   ...

RE: [Vo]:Back to Reality on Earth, my friends, please!

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

If they're going to use plastic pistons, I doubt it gets hot at all, in fact
it's hard to imagine a plastic surviving inside a plasma at all unless it's
coated with a ceramic top.

Since the gas law assumes particles are billiard balls, another possibility
is an atom becomes severly non-spherical or something like a starfish,
spinning very rapidly.

Hoyt Stearns

  -Original Message-
  From: OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson [mailto:orionwo...@charter.net]
  Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2012 10:16 AM
  To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
  Subject: RE: [Vo]:Back to Reality on Earth, my friends, please!


  From Hoyt:



  ...



   Maybe each gas atom splits into multiple particles ( or virtual

   particles; non local particles? ).

   Each new particle must have the same average kinetic energy as

   the original.

  

   What are your thoughts?



  Heh! My thoughts revolve around the fact of how little I understand about
what's allegedly happening here! ;-)



  However, with that in mind, even if these noble gas atoms are for a brief
period of time splitting into multiple particles, (virtual or real) it seems
to me that a lot of heat ought to be generated in the form of kinetic
energy. No?



  Wondering out loud here... Maybe a great deal of heat actually IS being
generated. However, after the expansion cycle completes its cycle (and where
temperature might be at the maximum value), it is followed by a contraction
cycle of comparable force and duration in the opposite direction. However,
during the contraction cycle all the generated heat is gobbled-up,
so-to-speak, so that afterwards it would appear to an external observer as
if no heat had actually been generated. Kind of like: What the Lord
giveth... and the Lord taketh away. ;-)



  I wonder if there might be a way to collect a series of rapid temperature
measurements during the expansion and contraction phases. It's possible
there might be some interesting surprises in store if that were don.



  This is just speculation on my part.



  Regards,

  Steven Vincent Johnson

  www.OrionWorks.com

  www.zazzle.com/orionworks

RE: [Vo]:LENR Heat Vs. Coal Heat

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

Since the energy radiated from a black body (Stefan–Boltzmann law) is
proportional to T^4, all one need do is heat pump the energy into an area on
the ground such that it is white hot.  The IR will radiate into space.

I don't think that'll ever be necessary, though.

Hoyt Stearns

  -Original Message-
  From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2012 1:32 PM
  To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: [Vo]:LENR Heat Vs. Coal Heat


  Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote:


I agree, that sooner or later global warming from waste heat will
become an issue...unless we can cancel the waste heat with waste cold
which is considered impossible according to the laws of
thermodynamics.


  Nope. That would make refrigerators impossible. The Second Law states that
heat cannot of itself go from one body to a hotter body. It can go but you
need an external mechanism. Such as compressed and expanded gas moving
around a loop.


  Since heat escapes in about a half hour, and since total the heat release
from machines is far less than solar energy, I do not think this will ever
be a problem. However, suppose we find too much waste heat at ground level
from energy production is trapped in the atmosphere. It causes heat islands
and even contributes to global warming. In that case, we need to build a
gigantic refrigerator coil that dumps the heat outside the atmosphere. That
is to say, something like space elevator, or at least a tower maybe 100 km
high.  Air temperature refrigerator fluid is pumped up the tower, out of the
atmosphere, and then compressed. It is decompressed on the down loop.


  You might just pump ocean water temperature water up the tower and let it
cool in space. I am not sure if that would work. It would work at night.


  Plan B would be a gigantic thin film parasol, to intercept sunlight.


  If we have a space elevator, I think it would make more sense to transfer
heavy industry up, away from the atmosphere. I guess right up to the Clarke
orbit (geosynchronous). You put the waste heat, noise and pollution 35,000
km away.




  You have to Think Big.


  - Jed

[Vo]:Isotope ratios near fission power plants

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

I am curious that due to the huge neutrino flux from a nuclear power plant
( I recall ~45megawatts worth ), that the isotope ratios nearby would tend
toward heavier.  Has that been observed?

[Vo]:LENR X-Rays

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

I don't recall LENR experiments being done in an X-Ray flux, but I assume it
must have been done. Did it have any effect?

[Vo]:Plasmic Transition Process motor

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

Do you have any thoughts on  this noble gas engine?

I saw an interview with some of the principals today --  it's impressive.
They're about to start production. I'll believe it when I can buy one,
though.

Summary:  A piston engine with a mixture of noble gasses sealed inside,
ionized with RF and a magnetic field, then fired with a spark plug.
There's no heat, just lots of power. The helium moves toward
the center upon
compression and the argon stays at the periphery  upon
firing.

The biggest problem I see, aside from the theory, is that keeping helium
inside a cylinder with a sliding end for long seems really hard.
The websites also seem way too over the top -- caution.

http://www.inteligentry.com/
http://pesn.com/2009/07/18/9501554_Plasma_Transition_Process_motor_system/

http://www.plasmerg.com/kits.html

[Vo]:1000°C E-CAT!

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

Now maybe a small gas turbine would be practical.

http://www.e-catworld.com/2012/07/short-qa-with-rossi-e-cat-stable-over-1000
c/

[Vo]:E*CAT from Australia, etc.

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

http://www.e-cataustralia.com/

http://www.freeenergysystems.com/Andrea_Rossi_Discusses_The_E-Cat_Part_1/

http://pesn.com/2012/07/19/9602138_LENR-to-Market_Weekly_July19/

RE: [Vo]:Why the Universe is expanding

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

But we think there are equal amounts of both kinds ( regular and anti
(really inverse) matter), it's just that inverse matter is agglomerated in
3D time, not space, so we encounter it only as an occasional cosmic ray.

Inverse humans are 80 light years tall and have a lifetime of 6 nanoseconds
:-) .
  -Original Message-
  From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 2:19 PM
  To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: [Vo]:Why the Universe is expanding


  We do not know that there are not regions of the universe that are
entirely antimatter.


  T

[Vo]:Technologists who rock the boat

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

http://www.stevequayle.com/dead_scientists/UpdatedDeadScientists.html
  -Original Message-
  From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 5:54 PM
  To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: [Vo]:Why spammers claim to be Nigerian when they are not


  Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote:

People who set out to transform society often end up dead.


  Not technologists. Hardly ever.


  ...

RE: [Vo]:Free Shipping

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

Also consider the Flettner rotor:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotor_ship 



  -Original Message-
 From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] 
 Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 8:50 AM
 To:   vortex-l@eskimo.com
 Subject:  RE: [Vo]:Free Shipping
 
   From: Robert Lynn 
 
   Wind turbines on the ship would probably make more sense, as
 at least they will work in any wind direction (even travelling straight
 into the wind), as well as in port.
 
 I agree that wind turbines make way more sense than sails or even kites,
 but they too are not cost-competitive will oil at $100 or less. 
 
...
attachment: winmail.dat

RE: [Vo]:Free Shipping

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

Also consider circulation controlled airfoils:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turbosail 


  -Original Message-
 From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] 
 Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 8:50 AM
 To:   vortex-l@eskimo.com
 Subject:  RE: [Vo]:Free Shipping
 
   From: Robert Lynn 
 
   Wind turbines on the ship would probably make more sense, as
 at least they will work in any wind direction (even travelling straight
 into the wind), as well as in port.
 
 I agree that wind turbines make way more sense than sails or even kites,
 but they too are not cost-competitive will oil at $100 or less. 
 
 In fact oil would need to go above $200 before wind makes sense in terms
 of no-subsidy operation. However ! that will happen, no question ... and
 sooner-rather-than-later, given the power and greed of OPEC/Big-Oil.
 
 There is a very-windy test area for turbines nearby, and they have every
 type imaginable to cross-compare. I haven't seen the firm data, but from
 having visited there numerous times in all wind conditions, and talking to
 the techies - there is clearly one superior design, and it would be ideal
 for ships. It always seems to be doing the best especially in light wind.
 
 It is vertical axis, but with straight and surprisingly thin airfoils. The
 curved airfoils do far worse. The one pictured below is similar; and it is
 fairly low cost. In coastal areas, this device blows solar panels away, so
 to speak, in terms of fast pay-back. The noise is inescapable ... but not
 all that unpleasant (the sound of $aving$ - as they say). 
 
 http://news.cnet.com/8301-11128_3-9956965-54.html
 
 However, subsidies are needed with this one too, in 2012 and beyond. 
 
 But the underlying premise for wind and solar, in general, is that oil
 will reach $200/barrel within a decade. At that time, the early adopters
 will look like prophets - unless LENR comes along first.
 
 Jones
 
 
attachment: winmail.dat

RE: [Vo]:Test for the Existence of Carbon Nanotubes

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

I don't know about nanotubes, but b-fullerene is soluable in something easy
and it turns it purpleish

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fullerene
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19655724
  -Original Message-
  From: Jojo Jaro [mailto:jth...@hotmail.com]
  Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 12:53 PM
  To: Vortex
  Subject: [Vo]:Test for the Existence of Carbon Nanotubes


  Hey Gang,  Is anyone here aware of an easy test for the presence of Carbon
Nanotubes?  Easy being simple and inexpensive and accessible to ordinary
folks without expensive equipment.  A Test that would quantify the amount of
carbon nanotubes would be better than simply telling me that they are
present.

  I am testing my nanotube reactor but I am unsure how much nanotubes I am
creating if any.

  Is there a chemical out there that would react exclusively with nanotubes
only.  Alternatively, a chemical that would strip away the carbon soot and
ordinary carbon particles and leave behind only carbon nanotubes would work
also.  I am aware that there is a CNT purification process, but a google
search reveal nothing within my reach or capability.


  Jojo

RE: [Vo]:Missing Neutrons (hydrinos)

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

-Original Message-
From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net]
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 10:38 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Missing Neutrons (hydrinos)


It is easy to go over the top with dramatization on this one. ...

...The interesting part (for this thread) is that with Titanium nanopowder,
instead of a temperature inversion indicating gain, you get an anomalous
sink. For instance, instead of an expected 10 degree drop (out-to-in) the
spread can be much higher, an order of magnitude perhaps, indicating
active
cooling.

I can think of many practical uses for an energy sink -- From car brakes
that don't get hot to laptop coolers, and perhaps more importantly, the
efficiency of a heat engine goes up quite fast the cooler the cold sink is,
reaching 100% at absolute zero -- free energy from ambient temperature.

There is also some anecdotal evidence that when a Steorn effect free
energy motor is run backwards, it absorbs kinetic energy without getting
hot.  There really does seem to be something to this magnetic interaction
effect.  Several engineers including a professional engineer hired to
independently verify it did verify it in a formal report.  Also see:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cRQu7M192g

Hoyt Stearns
Scottsdale, Arizona US

RE: [Vo]:Milky Way and Andromeda collision

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

In Dewey Larson's Reciprocal system of physics there is an effective ~15 femtoG 
repulsive acceleration throughout the universe ( it's a fundamental property of 
the universe ).  Gravity acts against this, so when the gravitational pull of 
star at some distance away reaches 15 fG, the stars repel instead of attract ( 
The gravitational limit ). That's on the order of 4 light years away for out 
sun, so stars generally won't get closer than that ( to simplify ).

http://www.reciprocalsystem.com/rs/cwkvk/gravlim.htm
http://www.reciprocalsystem.com/rs/satz/cluster.htm

( Also, below unit distance, 45.6 nm, gravity repels and the expansion of the 
universe attracts! That accounts for chemical bonding and may also account for 
the Casimir force. ).

Hoyt Stearns
Scottsdale, Arizona US


-Original Message-
From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net]
Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 6:11 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Milky Way and Andromeda collision


Most of the comments thus far assume that both galaxies are composed of normal 
matter and have no prior history together. NASA has no way of knowing this, 
nor do they know other relevant details - like the 'type' of matter. 

One simply cannot discuss this subject intelligently without reference to the 
disputed work of R. Foot, who is kind of the R. Crumb of cosmology.

http://arxiv.org/find/astro-ph/1/au:+Foot_R/0/1/0/all/0/1

...

[Vo]:Bizarre -- torsional physics

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

http://www.enterprisemission.com/Hyperdimensional-Eclipse.htm

RE: [Vo]:Any SLIders out there? I am one.

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

Just what not why.

I had a housemate whilst at Cornell who manifested the reverse Midas
touch.  We did several experiments to verify the effects were real and they
were!

One was when we asked him to please turn the volume down on a radio, and an
electrollytic capacitor failed emitting voluminous vapors into the room.
Another was to turn on a light, and it burned out.  He definitely should not
go into a computer room.

There were many more experiments like that, not all electrical in nature --
locking keys in car, flat tires at inappropriate times etc.
It's interesting that no significant physical harm ever occurred, although
the potential was there.

In the movie Pure Luck they give this a scientific name Coincident
Misfortune Syndrome.
I recommend that movie ( starring Martin Short ).  I really enjoyed it
because I knew this syndrome is real.

Hoyt Stearns
Scottsdale, Arizona US
  -Original Message-
  From: fznidar...@aol.com [mailto:fznidar...@aol.com]
  Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 10:19 AM


   From: Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com
  To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
  Sent: Thu, May 17, 2012 12:35 pm
  Subject: Re: [Vo]:Any SLIders out there? I am one.


I think lights that are near death are prone to being influenced by
the presence of people. So yes the light might turn on and off when
you aren't near it, but that doesn't rule out the possibility that you
had some infleunce at other times.

Harry

On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 8:59 AM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
orionwo...@charter.net wrote:
 From Beaty,

 ...

 If you notice a *single* streelight turn off, it might just be
 Anthropic Principle.  Meaning, that streetlight is slowly turning on
 and off constantly, but you only notice this when you're walking
 underneath, and then wrongly ascribe the cause as being your proximity.
 Human presence causes the bulb to be noticed, because without nearby
 human presence, the bulb isn't noticed.

[Vo]:A practical LENR use

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

If a 1MW LENR reactor can be built that weighs 430 lbs ( 192 Kg ) then it
could be easily bolted or ducted to the rear combustor can of an RR300
turbine in an MD520 helicopter if it can heat to 1145 °F or 618  °C.  The
weight of the fuel that wouldn't be needed is most of the weight allowable
for the reactor. The volume available is about 100 gallons ( 13 ft^3 or 0.38
m^3; 2.4 feet cube, 72cm/side  )  including the fuel volume and the space
around the combustor can.  Infinite endurance aircraft :-) !

http://www.rolls-royce.com/Images/rr300fs_tcm92-6710.pdf

http://www.mdhelicopters.com/products.php?id=MD_520N

Hoyt Stearns
Scottsdale, Arizona US

RE: [Vo]:A practical LENR use

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

That's what the turbine is for: 300 HP -- we just replace the combustor can
at the back.  The working fluid is hot air.
  -Original Message-
  From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 10:59 AM
  To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: [Vo]:A practical LENR use


  Hoyt A. Stearns Jr. hoyt-stea...@cox.net wrote:


If a 1MW LENR reactor can be built that weighs 430 lbs ( 192 Kg ) then
it could be easily bolted or ducted to the rear combustor can of an RR300
turbine in an MD520 helicopter if it can heat to 1145 °F or 618  °C.


  How do you make it do mechanical work?


  What would be the working fluid for the heat engine?


  - Jed

RE: [Vo]:A practical LENR use

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

Thanks for the clarifications!  It might still be feasible hopefully --maybe
a ~3 MW reactor outputting 1000 °C .



-Original Message-
From: Robert Lynn [mailto:robert.gulliver.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 12:19 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:A practical LENR use


The the 618°C temperature that you quote for the RR300 is MGT
(measured gas temperature) which is actually the turbine outlet
temperature.  As such it will be 2-300° C below the Turbine inlet
temperature.  Small gas turbines like the RR300 with uncooled turbine
blades have turbine inlet temperatures in the range of 850-1050°C.

...

RE: [Vo]:Was Ignition; now Mars

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

The Martians may not take kindly to that.

Frank Lloyd Wright inspired house:
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Mars4/Structures/Diamond_00
1b.png

Other bizarrities:

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/02files/Mars_Images_26.html
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/02files/Mars_Images.html

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/02files/Mars_Other_02.html



-Original Message-
From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net]
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 7:10 AM


 ... The main one is silane - which is a molecule like methane but with
silicon at the core instead of carbon. Robert Zurbin suggest this in The
Case for Mars: The Plan to Settle the Red Planet and Why We Must and NASA
has picked up on it, so I guess it is accurate.



http://www.amazon.com/The-Case-Mars-Settle-Planet/dp/0684835509



The atmosphere of Mars is mostly of carbon dioxide 95+%.

RE: [Vo]:Boeing Electric Airliner---LENR Application=???

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

The Roll Royce RR300 produces 300 HP with 1.1 megawatts of heating power, so
45 megawatts would be more than 13,500 HP. Assuming 10 lbf lift per
horsepower ( true for a helicopter, the giant A400M lifts 7 lbf/HP ), the
aircraft could weigh 135,000 pounds or  67 tons.

From: alain.coetm...@gmail.com [mailto:alain.coetm...@gmail.com]
 On Behalf Of Alain Sepeda
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 11:45 AM

  the power density of Defkalion hyperion, is about 5kW for 10g of powder,
5kg of reactor, plus pipes,pump and bottle (should be negligible if well
integrated and MW sized)...

  45MW mechanic, imply 150-200MW thermal,
  so about 200ton of reactor, plus turbines.

   ...

RE: [Vo]:Znidarsic's constant

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

Avagadro's number is used to convert natural unit mass to conventional a
conventional unit:


Space-time Units Conventional Units
s   space   4.558816?10-6 cm4.558816?10-6 cm
t   time1.520655?10-16 sec  1.520655?10-16 sec
s/t speed   2.997930?1010 cm/sec2.997930?1010 cm/sec
s/t2acceleration1.971473?1026 cm/sec2   1.971473?1026 
cm/sec2
t/s energy  3.335635?10-11 see/cm   1.49175?10-3 ergs
t/s2force   7.316889?10-6 sec/cm2   3.27223?102 dynes
t/s4pressure3.520646?105 sec/cm41.57449?1013 
dynes/cm2
t2/s2   momentum1.112646?10-21 sec2/cm2 4.97593?10-14 
g-cm/sec
t3/s3   inertial mass   3.711381?10-32 sec3/cm3 1.65979?10-24 g

from: http://library.rstheory.org/books/nbm/13.html



-Original Message-
From: mix...@bigpond.com [mailto:mix...@bigpond.com]
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 10:53 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Znidarsic's constant


In reply to  Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.'s message of Fri, 20 Apr 2012
19:09:27 -0700:
Hi,
[snip]
Only three values are needed to perform all calculations:  c, the Rydberg
frequency, and Avagadro's number.

Almost any three natural constants are enough to derive all the rest. This
is
well known in physics. However Avogadro's number is not a natural constant,
because it's based upon our definition of the gram, which is arbitrary.

Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html

RE: [Vo]:bass and jed

[Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.]

Interesting.  45.6nm is also ? the Rydberg wavelength and the natural unit
of length in Dewey Larson's Reciprocal System of physics.

Hoyt Stearns
Scottsdale, Arizona US


 -Original Message-
From: fznidar...@aol.com [mailto:fznidar...@aol.com]
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 9:37 AM
To: fznidar...@aol.com; vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: [Vo]:bass and jed


  50 nano-meters ..is the magic domain that produces a detectable cold
fusion reaction
  Jed Rothwell, Infinite Energy, Issue 29, 1999, page 23.




  50nm times ir freq = 1 million meters per sec;  Znidarsic's constant.


  Frankz