Re: [Vo]:Planckian dissipation phenomenon

[H LV]

Only  faster than c wave packets would be transmitted. I didn't mean to
imply both slower and faster wave packets would be transmitted.
Harry

On Tue, May 21, 2019, 12:21 PM Kevin O'Malley  If time is determined by the speed of light, how would you determine
> which packets were generated first?  Would they be going by some other
> limiting speed agent other than C?
>
> On 5/12/19, H LV  wrote:
> > If one can build a transmitter and a receiver to transmit and detect wave
> > packets travelling with sub c group velocity why can't one do the same
> for
> > wave packets with group velocity much greater than c and achieve
> > communication which is much faster than c?
> > Harry
> >
> > On Fri, May 3, 2019, 11:51 PM Axil Axil  >
> >>
> >>
> >> It should be noted that while Einstein's theory of special relativity
> >> prevents (real) mass, energy, or information from traveling faster than
> >> the
> >> speed of light c (Lorentz et al. 1952, Brillouin and Sommerfeld 1960,
> >> Born
> >> and Wolf 1999, Landau and Lifschitz 1997), there is nothing preventing
> >> "apparent" motion faster than c (or, in fact, with negative speeds,
> >> implying arrival at a destination before leaving the origin). For
> >> example,
> >> the phase velocity and group velocity of a wave may exceed the speed of
> >> light, but in such cases, no energy or information actually travels
> >> faster
> >> than c. Experiments showing group velocities greater than c include that
> >> of
> >> Wang et al. (2000), who produced a laser pulse in atomic cesium gas with
> >> a
> >> group velocity of -310c. In each case, the observed superluminal
> >> propagation is not at odds with causality, and is instead a consequence
> >> of
> >> classical interference between its constituent frequency components in a
> >> region of anomalous dispersion (Wang et al. 2000).
> >>
> >> Keith Fredericks has an opinion that strange radiation is a tachyon.
> This
> >> SR quasiparticle might be tachyonic is that it is most likely based on
> >> the
> >> polariton. The polariton does generate superluminal light in the form of
> >> x-waves.
> >>
> >> https://www.nature.com/articles/lsa2017119
> >>
> >> Superluminal X-waves in a polariton quantum fluid
> >>
> >> This article shows that a polariton can naturally produce superluminal
> >> light (X-waves) when excited with a pulsed laser.
> >>
> >> This unexpected behavior of light may explain how Strange radiation (SR)
> >> can be considered a tachyon, a superluminal particle.
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>

Re: [Vo]:Planckian dissipation phenomenon

[Kevin O'Malley]

If time is determined by the speed of light, how would you determine
which packets were generated first?  Would they be going by some other
limiting speed agent other than C?

On 5/12/19, H LV  wrote:
> If one can build a transmitter and a receiver to transmit and detect wave
> packets travelling with sub c group velocity why can't one do the same for
> wave packets with group velocity much greater than c and achieve
> communication which is much faster than c?
> Harry
>
> On Fri, May 3, 2019, 11:51 PM Axil Axil 
>>
>>
>> It should be noted that while Einstein's theory of special relativity
>> prevents (real) mass, energy, or information from traveling faster than
>> the
>> speed of light c (Lorentz et al. 1952, Brillouin and Sommerfeld 1960,
>> Born
>> and Wolf 1999, Landau and Lifschitz 1997), there is nothing preventing
>> "apparent" motion faster than c (or, in fact, with negative speeds,
>> implying arrival at a destination before leaving the origin). For
>> example,
>> the phase velocity and group velocity of a wave may exceed the speed of
>> light, but in such cases, no energy or information actually travels
>> faster
>> than c. Experiments showing group velocities greater than c include that
>> of
>> Wang et al. (2000), who produced a laser pulse in atomic cesium gas with
>> a
>> group velocity of -310c. In each case, the observed superluminal
>> propagation is not at odds with causality, and is instead a consequence
>> of
>> classical interference between its constituent frequency components in a
>> region of anomalous dispersion (Wang et al. 2000).
>>
>> Keith Fredericks has an opinion that strange radiation is a tachyon. This
>> SR quasiparticle might be tachyonic is that it is most likely based on
>> the
>> polariton. The polariton does generate superluminal light in the form of
>> x-waves.
>>
>> https://www.nature.com/articles/lsa2017119
>>
>> Superluminal X-waves in a polariton quantum fluid
>>
>> This article shows that a polariton can naturally produce superluminal
>> light (X-waves) when excited with a pulsed laser.
>>
>> This unexpected behavior of light may explain how Strange radiation (SR)
>> can be considered a tachyon, a superluminal particle.
>>
>>
>

Re: [Vo]:Planckian dissipation phenomenon

[ROGER ANDERTON]

 I think it can be done. It was Tesla that dealt with e-m waves faster than c. 
But then with the coming of Einstein all of that got ignored. Now there is 
mental blockage against believing it possible by those who believe in 
Einstein's relativity. 

On Monday, 13 May 2019, 00:24:12 BST, H LV  wrote:  
 
 If one can build a transmitter and a receiver to transmit and detect wave 
packets travelling with sub c group velocity why can't one do the same for wave 
packets with group velocity much greater than c and achieve communication which 
is much faster than c?Harry

On Fri, May 3, 2019, 11:51 PM Axil Axil https://www.nature.com/articles/lsa2017119

Superluminal X-waves in a polariton quantum fluid

This article shows that a polariton can naturally produce superluminal light 
(X-waves) when excited with a pulsed laser.

This unexpected behavior of light may explain how Strange radiation (SR) can be 
considered a tachyon, a superluminal particle. 


  

Re: [Vo]:Planckian dissipation phenomenon

[H LV]

If one can build a transmitter and a receiver to transmit and detect wave
packets travelling with sub c group velocity why can't one do the same for
wave packets with group velocity much greater than c and achieve
communication which is much faster than c?
Harry

On Fri, May 3, 2019, 11:51 PM Axil Axil 
>
> It should be noted that while Einstein's theory of special relativity
> prevents (real) mass, energy, or information from traveling faster than the
> speed of light c (Lorentz et al. 1952, Brillouin and Sommerfeld 1960, Born
> and Wolf 1999, Landau and Lifschitz 1997), there is nothing preventing
> "apparent" motion faster than c (or, in fact, with negative speeds,
> implying arrival at a destination before leaving the origin). For example,
> the phase velocity and group velocity of a wave may exceed the speed of
> light, but in such cases, no energy or information actually travels faster
> than c. Experiments showing group velocities greater than c include that of
> Wang et al. (2000), who produced a laser pulse in atomic cesium gas with a
> group velocity of -310c. In each case, the observed superluminal
> propagation is not at odds with causality, and is instead a consequence of
> classical interference between its constituent frequency components in a
> region of anomalous dispersion (Wang et al. 2000).
>
> Keith Fredericks has an opinion that strange radiation is a tachyon. This
> SR quasiparticle might be tachyonic is that it is most likely based on the
> polariton. The polariton does generate superluminal light in the form of
> x-waves.
>
> https://www.nature.com/articles/lsa2017119
>
> Superluminal X-waves in a polariton quantum fluid
>
> This article shows that a polariton can naturally produce superluminal
> light (X-waves) when excited with a pulsed laser.
>
> This unexpected behavior of light may explain how Strange radiation (SR)
> can be considered a tachyon, a superluminal particle.
>
>

Re: [Vo]:Planckian dissipation phenomenon

[Jürg Wyttenbach]

Am 06.05.19 um 17:41 schrieb Andrew Meulenberg:

Dear Jones,

I suspect that it will take a convergence of ideas to solve the CF 
problem. I haven't the time, presently, to come up to speed on Jurg's 
model (I may have to make the time at some point).


I was unaware that spintronics can increase the effective mass of 
electrons. However, I suspect that is in the context of a lattice; if 
so, such an increase would not be surprising. Just as charged 
particles are trapped in the Van Allen belts by "mirroring" in the 
Earth's mag field gradient, this could happen to conduction electrons 
within a lattice. This would certainly add to the increase in 
effective mass from the E-field barriers of the lattice.


Right now, I am toying with Jean-Luc Paillet's concept of ~100 MeV 
relativistic electrons in deep orbits to act as muons and pions and a 
potential source of nuclear forces. As a consequence of deep-orbit 
interactions (e.g., spin-spin interaction between nucleons, quarks, 
and electrons), we may be able to understand the additional SS 
interactions, if a second such electron (or a positron) is present (as 
I suspect may be the case in the structure of neutrons - or even quarks).


This is exactly what I show in the NPP2.1.7 exact neutron model. There 
are two relativistic electron masses that join to form an SO(4) orbit, 
what makes a neutron. Details see paper.



Jürg



I would not be surprised if Holmlid's work (and spintronics) can 
contribute to new (or, at least, modified) models of nuclear and 
atomic physics.


Andrew
_ _ _

On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 9:20 AM JonesBeene > wrote:


*From: *Andrew Meulenberg 

  * A possible weakness in the ICCF-14 model is the assumption
that the increased effective mass of a lattice electron would
be valid for atomic-hydrogen spacings (dimensions) below that
of the lattice.

Andrew,

There is an interesting and possibly unplanned convergence of your
thinking with that of Jürg Wyttenbach relative to electron
effective mass and spin… which curiously also turns up at the
basis of “spintronics”. Perhaps LENR will move in that direction.
After all, the “effective mass” of electrons is a well studied
detail in that context.

In the case of Holmlid -- and taken to the extreme (far extreme) -
the large change in electron "effective mass" which can be
engineered in spintronics may point to the origin of what Holmlid
detects as “muons”. After all, the strongest objection to his work
is the actual annihilation of hydrogen, supposedly into muons.

It may not be completely out of the question to suggest that he is
somehow seeing the scattering of transitory remnants from
massively increased (effective mass), rather than annihilation.



--
Jürg Wyttenbach
Bifangstr.22
8910 Affoltern a.A.
044 760 14 18
079 246 36 06

Re: [Vo]:Planckian dissipation phenomenon

[Jürg Wyttenbach]

Hi Jones,All

In the case of Holmlid -- and taken to the extreme (far extreme) - the 
large change in electron "effective mass" which can be engineered in 
spintronics may point to the origin of what Holmlid detects as “muons”. 
After all, the strongest objection to his work is the actual 
annihilation of hydrogen, supposedly into muons.



The spectrum Sindre Gunerson - the partner of Holmlid -published on his 
homepage is very compelling as it shows a new phenomena - 
Pion-recombination - that can be calculated by SO(4) physics. The shape 
and width of the peak show an excellent fit.


http://www.norrontfusion.com/technology

Thus definitely they somehow cracked protons. But Holmlids theory about 
the radius can only be explained by the quantization of the proton 
magnetic moments, that in fact delivers a similar-close enough radius. 
See Terni-paper.


Jürg


Am 06.05.19 um 15:20 schrieb JonesBeene:


*From: *Andrew Meulenberg 

**

  * A possible weakness in the ICCF-14 model is the assumption that
the increased effective mass of a lattice electron would be valid
for atomic-hydrogen spacings (dimensions) below that of the lattice.

Andrew,

There is an interesting and possibly unplanned convergence of your 
thinking with that of Jürg Wyttenbach relative to electron effective 
mass and spin… which curiously also turns up at the basis of 
“spintronics”. Perhaps LENR will move in that direction. After all, 
the “effective mass” of electrons is a well studied detail in that 
context.


In the case of Holmlid -- and taken to the extreme (far extreme) - the 
large change in electron "effective mass" which can be engineered in 
spintronics may point to the origin of what Holmlid detects as 
“muons”. After all, the strongest objection to his work is the actual 
annihilation of hydrogen, supposedly into muons.


It may not be completely out of the question to suggest that he is 
somehow seeing the scattering of transitory remnants from massively 
increased (effective mass), rather than annihilation.




--
Jürg Wyttenbach
Bifangstr.22
8910 Affoltern a.A.
044 760 14 18
079 246 36 06

Re: [Vo]:Planckian dissipation phenomenon

[Axil Axil]

https://logiclogiclogic.wordpress.com/2015/04/28/an-uncommon-man-and-the-surprising-nature-of-our-universe-roger-penrose-and-reality-part-3/


An Uncommon Man and the surprising nature of our universe, Roger Penrose
and reality Part 3

It seems like the 4D space is not new. Witten developed what has been
called the twistor-string mini-revolution. Twistor theory is CP^3 with the
isometry group SU(2,2). The projective twistor space CP^3 ~
SU(2,2)/SO(4,1)×U(1) with is isotopy group SO(4,1). This connects with the
Maldecena AdS/CFT and M-theory.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twistor_string_theory

It also seems like the 4th dimension is a complex number that describes the
spin of  a particle.

"Roger Penrose invented Spinors and Twistors (among many other things.) but
Spinors and Twistors were rarely used or discussed until recently.

It started to change in 2004 after Edward Witten discovered that Twistors
could be used in string theory instead of possibly the 11 dimensional
framework they had come up with could be reduced to the 5 dimensions of
Twistor space.   After that a series of breakthroughs in the use of
Twistors in other parts of physics sparked what has become known as “The
Twistor Revolution.”


On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 6:25 PM Jürg Wyttenbach  wrote:

> Axil!
>
> QM gauge is charge (Coulomb)- based. There is no way to explain
> condensation below Bohr radius with this method as all such attempts must
> violate the gauge.
>
> In contrast to QM SO(4) physics gives the exact relation of
> forces/energies of spin-paired electrons, what is the first step of
> condensation of matter below Bohr radius. It's a shame that most physicists
> do not understand the structure of the nuclear magnetic field (e.g. given
> by Mills) and even use pure Coulomb law to derive a fictive charge radius
> (Holmlid UDH..) At about 2pm radius the classic 3D,t magnetic force is
> already stronger than the coulomb force and thus any model made by
> QM/coulomb only, is void by definition.
>
> As the famous experiment with close to unlimited phase speed for photons
> shows any amount of energy can go into rotation = magnetic mass. Higher
> speed than c is only possible if the EM-mass takes a short-cut through
> higher dimensions. Already in SO(4) the speed up can be 32 for (5) single
> side rotations or 64 for double side. This is given by the space-energy
> metric.
>
> Classic 3D,t physics with a separate  gravitational mass is a
> simplification of the reality that has no mathematical power to explain
> higher dimensional spin flux  as seen in super conduction. In SO(4) physics
> the gravitational mass can be exactly derived from the basic form factors
> and as it shows, gravitational mass is residual EM-mass - nothing more.
>
> I personally expect that many old rules (e.g. about bosons, fermions..)
> that are based on the over simplified old terminology will disappear, as
> soon as people understand how to properly model matter.  A first step would
> be to unify the photon orbit structure with the in mater orbit structure
> for charge bound mass. Here SO(4) has the unique property that one side of
> the orbit can be open and connect to neighbor orbits what allows the
> loss-less exchange of spin-orbit energy. Classically this looks like "halve
> of a photon wave" would "attach" to the nuclear charge and the other halve
> is flowing on to the next nucleus. Such a model would also allow to
> calculate the critical temperature based on matching SO(4) orbit radii.
>
> Jürg
>
>
>
>
>
> Am 03.05.2019 um 23:09 schrieb Axil Axil:
>
> Jones,
>
> I agree that the electron cover forms a cloud around the positive core of
> the cluster. But the formation of a Bose condensate and associated
> superconductivity requires that the electrons must be converted to bosons.
> This occurs when the Ultra dense hydrogen is irradiated with the laser, or
> a spark or room lighting. This light source provides the photons that will
> entangle the electron cover to generate the Bosons in the form of
> polaritons. Polaritons will readily produce a bose condensate when their
> density reaches a critical level.
>
> On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 4:49 PM JonesBeene  wrote:
>
>> Another possibility for LENR  is that dense hydrogen clusters configure
>> themselves to  assume the “strange metal” state. The  orbital electron
>> becomes effectively unbound and  minimally associated with any single
>> nuclepn. If the electrons then form into much denser Cooper pairs, due to
>> the associated positive charge of the protons, then they should condense
>> even further.
>>
>>
>>
>> I think the paper got this part partly right and partly wrong. QUOTE:
>> electrons… may be organizing themselves into a “maximally scrambled”
>> quantum state, in which the properties of each electron depend on those of
>> every other. This state of maximum scrambling might allow the electrons to
>> scatter off one another and spread energy as quickly as the laws of quantum
>> mechanics permit.
>>
>>

RE: [Vo]:Planckian dissipation phenomenon

[bobcook39...@hotmail.com]

Andrew and Jones—

I agree with you the Jurg’s model may be right on.  If not reviewed heretofore, 
Jurg’s paper/model of electrons/positrons is warranted.  An introduction to the 
mathematics Jurg uses, and how  that math relates to gauge theory invariance is 
pertinent, I,.e., SO(4) PHYSICS as Jurg refers to  it.

Andrew, do you have a reference to the ICCF-14 model you refer to in the 
comments to Jones?

Bob Cook


From: Andrew Meulenberg 
Sent: Monday, May 6, 2019 8:41:57 AM
To: VORTEX; Andrew Meulenberg
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Planckian dissipation phenomenon

Dear Jones,

I suspect that it will take a convergence of ideas to solve the CF problem. I 
haven't the time, presently, to come up to speed on Jurg's model (I may have to 
make the time at some point).

I was unaware that spintronics can increase the effective mass of electrons. 
However, I suspect that is in the context of a lattice; if so, such an increase 
would not be surprising. Just as charged particles are trapped in the Van Allen 
belts by "mirroring" in the Earth's mag field gradient, this could happen to 
conduction electrons within a lattice. This would certainly add to the increase 
in effective mass from the E-field barriers of the lattice.

Right now, I am toying with Jean-Luc Paillet's concept of ~100 MeV relativistic 
electrons in deep orbits to act as muons and pions and a potential source of 
nuclear forces. As a consequence of deep-orbit interactions (e.g., spin-spin 
interaction between nucleons, quarks, and electrons), we may be able to 
understand the additional SS interactions, if a second such electron (or a 
positron) is present (as I suspect may be the case in the structure of neutrons 
- or even quarks).

I would not be surprised if Holmlid's work (and spintronics) can contribute to 
new (or, at least, modified) models of nuclear and atomic physics.

Andrew
_ _ _

On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 9:20 AM JonesBeene 
mailto:jone...@pacbell.net>> wrote:


From: Andrew Meulenberg<mailto:mules...@gmail.com>


  *   A possible weakness in the ICCF-14 model is the assumption that the 
increased effective mass of a lattice electron would be valid for 
atomic-hydrogen spacings (dimensions) below that of the lattice.

Andrew,

There is an interesting and possibly unplanned convergence of your thinking 
with that of Jürg Wyttenbach relative to electron effective mass and spin… 
which curiously also turns up at the basis of “spintronics”. Perhaps LENR will 
move in that direction. After all, the “effective mass” of electrons is a well 
studied detail in that context.

In the case of Holmlid -- and taken to the extreme (far extreme) - the large 
change in electron "effective mass" which can be engineered in spintronics may 
point to the origin of what Holmlid detects as “muons”. After all, the 
strongest objection to his work is the actual annihilation of hydrogen, 
supposedly into muons.

It may not be completely out of the question to suggest that he is somehow 
seeing the scattering of transitory remnants from massively increased 
(effective mass), rather than annihilation.

RE: [Vo]:Planckian dissipation phenomenon--first proposed by Tongin X. Cheek

[bobcook39...@hotmail.com]

Axil—

I meant:

You should give credit to the person who first observed “Planckian dissipation 
phenomenon” and related theory.

Bob Cook



From: Axil Axil 
Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2019 12:25:06 PM
To: vortex-l
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Planckian dissipation phenomenon--first proposed by Tongin X. 
Cheek

Bob.

I don't understand what you mean?

On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 11:37 AM 
bobcook39...@hotmail.com<mailto:bobcook39...@hotmail.com> 
mailto:bobcook39...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Axil—

You should give due credit to the author.

Bob Cook


From: Axil Axil<mailto:janap...@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2019 12:36 PM
To: vortex-l<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Planckian dissipation phenomenon


This new finding could have implications for the theory of LENR. There have 
been many and varied observations that Bose condensates behave just like black 
holes. Bose condensates are superconducting and coherent. Hydrides including 
ultra dense hydrogen are superconducting under high pressure. There could be a 
fundamental quantum mechanical based behavioral law at play that causes Bose 
condensates to mimic black holes. It could be this universal property of the 
universe that gives LENR its soul. It is this black hole like behavior: namely 
hawking radiation that may be the major source of power production related to 
the LENR reaction.

Those strange tachyon like particles we call strange radiation or black EVOs 
that we see in LENR experiments could be superconducting, Bose condensate like, 
Plasmoids that produce the vacuum energy that we see in LENR. It all could be 
connected by a universal law called Planckian dissipation phenomenon.

On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 3:03 PM Axil Axil 
mailto:janap...@gmail.com>> wrote:
https://www.quantamagazine.org/universal-quantum-phenomenon-found-in-superconductors-20181119/

Universal Quantum Phenomenon Found in Strange Metals

It looks like black holes, superconductivity, the uncertainty principle, 
gravity, and the holographic universe are connected by an as not yet fully 
understood commonality: Planckian dissipation phenomenon.

Re: [Vo]:Planckian dissipation phenomenon

[Andrew Meulenberg]

Dear Jones,

I suspect that it will take a convergence of ideas to solve the CF problem.
I haven't the time, presently, to come up to speed on Jurg's model (I may
have to make the time at some point).

I was unaware that spintronics can increase the effective mass of
electrons. However, I suspect that is in the context of a lattice; if so,
such an increase would not be surprising. Just as charged particles are
trapped in the Van Allen belts by "mirroring" in the Earth's mag field
gradient, this could happen to conduction electrons within a lattice. This
would certainly add to the increase in effective mass from the E-field
barriers of the lattice.

Right now, I am toying with Jean-Luc Paillet's concept of ~100 MeV
relativistic electrons in deep orbits to act as muons and pions and a
potential source of nuclear forces. As a consequence of deep-orbit
interactions (e.g., spin-spin interaction between nucleons, quarks, and
electrons), we may be able to understand the additional SS interactions, if
a second such electron (or a positron) is present (as I suspect may be the
case in the structure of neutrons - or even quarks).

I would not be surprised if Holmlid's work (and spintronics) can contribute
to new (or, at least, modified) models of nuclear and atomic physics.

Andrew
_ _ _

On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 9:20 AM JonesBeene  wrote:

>
>
>
>
> *From: *Andrew Meulenberg 
>
>
>- A possible weakness in the ICCF-14 model is the assumption that the
>increased effective mass of a lattice electron would be valid for
>atomic-hydrogen spacings (dimensions) below that of the lattice.
>
>
>
> Andrew,
>
>
>
> There is an interesting and possibly unplanned convergence of your
> thinking with that of Jürg Wyttenbach relative to electron effective mass
> and spin… which curiously also turns up at the basis of “spintronics”.
> Perhaps LENR will move in that direction. After all, the “effective mass”
> of electrons is a well studied detail in that context.
>
>
>
> In the case of Holmlid -- and taken to the extreme (far extreme) - the
> large change in electron "effective mass" which can be engineered in
> spintronics may point to the origin of what Holmlid detects as “muons”.
> After all, the strongest objection to his work is the actual annihilation
> of hydrogen, supposedly into muons.
>
>
>
> It may not be completely out of the question to suggest that he is somehow
> seeing the scattering of transitory remnants from massively increased
> (effective mass), rather than annihilation.
>
>
>

RE: [Vo]:Planckian dissipation phenomenon

[JonesBeene]

From: Andrew Meulenberg

➢ A possible weakness in the ICCF-14 model is the assumption that the increased 
effective mass of a lattice electron would be valid for atomic-hydrogen 
spacings (dimensions) below that of the lattice. 

Andrew,

There is an interesting and possibly unplanned convergence of your thinking 
with that of Jürg Wyttenbach relative to electron effective mass and spin… 
which curiously also turns up at the basis of “spintronics”. Perhaps LENR will 
move in that direction. After all, the “effective mass” of electrons is a well 
studied detail in that context.

In the case of Holmlid -- and taken to the extreme (far extreme) - the large 
change in electron "effective mass" which can be engineered in spintronics may 
point to the origin of what Holmlid detects as “muons”. After all, the 
strongest objection to his work is the actual annihilation of hydrogen, 
supposedly into muons. 

It may not be completely out of the question to suggest that he is somehow 
seeing the scattering of transitory remnants from massively increased 
(effective mass), rather than annihilation.

Re: [Vo]:Planckian dissipation phenomenon

[Axil Axil]

I now have an opinion that the LENR reaction has two separate but
concurrent modes of energy production: *matter transmutation* and *vacuum
energy extraction*.

Thinking back since 2011, all of the LENR reactors that have been built
have had a very low COP because they were running mostly in matter
transmutation mode. Rossi's mouse reactor had a COP of 1.1 and the Lugano
reactor had a COP of fewer than 3 for example.

Such matter transmutation reactors are essentially useless for energy
production since transmutation produces little energy. Transmutation only
occurs when the LENR reaction stops.

With the advent of the SK reactor, this LENR reaction gets most of its
power from the vacuum and little from matter transmutation.

I think that the key to changing the mode in which the LENR reactor
operates is the nature of the pumping signal.

I speculate that the SK uses a very high frequency pumping signal in the
gigacycle to terracycle range. This causes EMF black holes to be produced
(life cycle) a billion to a trillion times a second. Each such nano black
hole adds a few photons to the total energy inventory, but that very fast
on/off cycling causes power to accumulate in large amounts. Rossi uses the
same fuel in this SK reactor as he did in his Lugano and mouse reactor
designs. What makes all the difference is how Rossi pumps the LENR
reaction.  This is just a speculation to keep in mind...

Yes, I bet that Rossi can change the power output of his SK reactor by
adjusting the frequency of the pumping signal.


On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 3:03 PM Axil Axil  wrote:

>
> https://www.quantamagazine.org/universal-quantum-phenomenon-found-in-superconductors-20181119/
>
> Universal Quantum Phenomenon Found in Strange Metals
>
> It looks like black holes, superconductivity, the uncertainty principle,
> gravity, and the holographic universe are connected by an as not yet fully
> understood commonality: Planckian dissipation phenomenon.
>

Re: [Vo]:Planckian dissipation phenomenon

[Andrew Meulenberg]

Jones,

In answer to your question about the "known binding energy for spin-paired
electrons," KP Sinha and I have some theoretical papers that provide some
information that would support the application of spin-paired electrons to
CF. KP's early work on the pair includes published references to them and
KP coined the phrase for the pair as a local-charged boson (the Lochon)
that can be found in [K. P. Sinha, Infinite Energy 29, 54 (2000)]. An
extension of this model is in:

K. P. Sinha and A. Meulenberg, “A Model for Enhanced Fusion Reaction in a
Solid Matrix of Metal Deuterides,” Proceedings of the 14th International
Conference on Cold Fusion (ICCF-14) 10-15 August 2008 Washington DC p.
633,   http://coldfusioncommunity.net/pdf/conf/ICCF-14/633_ICCF-14.pdf

These papers were prior to our deep-orbit electron models, but the concept
can still be useful in helping to get electrons into those deep orbits. A
possible weakness in the ICCF-14 model is the assumption that the increased
effective mass of a lattice electron would be valid for atomic-hydrogen
spacings (dimensions) below that of the lattice. However, the assumption
that the hydrogen would be in a linear sub-lattice, which could "shrink",
lent some credence to that assumption. This later led to a model of a
lattice-bound, linear-H, molecule being an option for populating the
deep-electron orbits and producing CF:

A. Meulenberg, K.P. Sinha, “Composite model for LENR in linear defects of a
lattice,” ICCF-18, 18th Int. Conf. on Cond. Matter Nuclear Science,
Columbia, Missouri, 25/07/2013, Abstract and presentation slides at
http://hdl.handle.net/10355/36818, video at
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcTSUJUCRHE

Andrew
_ _ _
On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 6:49 PM Jones Beene  wrote:

> Jürg Wyttenbach wrote:
> > In contrast to QM SO(4) physics gives the exact relation of
> forces/energies of spin-paired electrons, what is the first step of
> condensation of matter below Bohr radius.
>
> Hi,
> If you have a minute - what is the exact relation that you mention? Is
> there a known binding energy for spin-paired electrons that is supported by
> this theory ?
>
>

Re: [Vo]:Planckian dissipation phenomenon

[Jones Beene]

  Jürg  -- I see you have been refining these ideas over several years 

https://www.researchgate.net/project/Nuclear-and-particle-physics-20
Nice body of work !
Let's hope that your experiments are able to validate the model.

Jones


     Jürg Wyttenbach wrote: 
Yes! The 4-He spin pairing energy can be directly derived from the SO(4) 
electro-weak potential force. Also the missing correction of the Hydrogen (p-e) 
ionization energy can be given by the very same force and the SO(4) orbits. If 
you did follow the SO(4) physics, then you can see that with SO(4) orbits you 
get all known 10 digits of the ionization energy. (Deuterium too!)
 
In the last year I found 3 different ways to model the nuclear energies (mass). 
First standards constants based, second magnetic mass based, third: coupled 
orbit based (includes second model). The last model gives the exact masses & 
"magnetic mass" structure for neutron, deuterium, 4-He.
 
My focus on theory is currently very low. I'm doing LENR experimental support 
and I'm "glad" to see that the new model(s) works as expected.
 
As soon as others catch up (understand) with SO(4) physics I will start to 
model again. The SO(4) model is safe enough as it exactly explains the 
gravitation constant without any work around and fitting just using basics 
SO(4) physics quantities, that were derived long before the formula has been 
found...
 
If you understand the SO(4) based nature of gravitation you will start to like 
the new model! All mass is spin-base! 
 
 
Jürg
 
 Am 04.05.2019 um 00:48 schrieb Jones Beene:
  
 
 Jürg Wyttenbach wrote:  
  > In contrast to QM SO(4) physics gives the exact relation of forces/energies 
of spin-paired electrons, what is the first step of condensation of matter 
below Bohr radius. 
  Hi, 
  If you have a minute - what is the exact relation that you mention? Is there 
a known binding energy for spin-paired electrons that is supported by this 
theory ? 
  -- 
Jürg Wyttenbach
Bifangstr. 22
8910 Affoltern am Albis

+41 44 760 14 18   

Re: [Vo]:Planckian dissipation phenomenon

[Jürg Wyttenbach]

Hi Jones

Yes! The 4-He spin pairing energy can be directly derived from the SO(4) 
electro-weak potential force. Also the missing correction of the 
Hydrogen (p-e) ionization energy can be given by the very same force and 
the SO(4) orbits. If you did follow the SO(4) physics, then you can see 
that with SO(4) orbits you get all known 10 digits of the ionization 
energy. (Deuterium too!)


In the last year I found 3 different ways to model the nuclear energies 
(mass). First standards constants based, second magnetic mass based, 
third: coupled orbit based (includes second model). The last model gives 
the exact masses & "magnetic mass" structure for neutron, deuterium, 4-He.


My focus on theory is currently very low. I'm doing LENR experimental 
support and I'm "glad" to see that the new model(s) works as expected.


As soon as others catch up (understand) with SO(4) physics I will start 
to model again. The SO(4) model is safe enough as it exactly explains 
the gravitation constant without any work around and fitting just using 
basics SO(4) physics quantities, that were derived long before the 
formula has been found...


If you understand the SO(4) based nature of gravitation you will start 
to like the new model! All mass is spin-base!


Jürg

Am 04.05.2019 um 00:48 schrieb Jones Beene:

Jürg Wyttenbach wrote:

> In contrast to QM SO(4) physics gives the exact relation of 
forces/energies of spin-paired electrons, what is the first step of 
condensation of matter below Bohr radius.


Hi,

If you have a minute - what is the exact relation that you mention? Is 
there a known binding energy for spin-paired electrons that is 
supported by this theory ?



--
Jürg Wyttenbach
Bifangstr. 22
8910 Affoltern am Albis

+41 44 760 14 18

Re: [Vo]:Planckian dissipation phenomenon--first proposed by Tongin X. Cheek

[Axil Axil]

Bob.

I don't understand what you mean?

On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 11:37 AM bobcook39...@hotmail.com <
bobcook39...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Axil—
>
>
>
> You should give due credit to the author.
>
>
>
> Bob Cook
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *Axil Axil 
> *Sent: *Friday, May 3, 2019 12:36 PM
> *To: *vortex-l 
> *Subject: *Re: [Vo]:Planckian dissipation phenomenon
>
>
>
> This new finding could have implications for the theory of LENR. There
> have been many and varied observations that Bose condensates behave just
> like black holes. Bose condensates are superconducting and coherent.
> Hydrides including ultra dense hydrogen are superconducting under high
> pressure. There could be a fundamental quantum mechanical based behavioral
> law at play that causes Bose condensates to mimic black holes. It could be
> this universal property of the universe that gives LENR its soul. It is
> this black hole like behavior: namely hawking radiation that may be the
> major source of power production related to the LENR reaction.
>
> Those strange tachyon like particles we call strange radiation or black
> EVOs that we see in LENR experiments could be superconducting, Bose
> condensate like, Plasmoids that produce the vacuum energy that we see in
> LENR. It all could be connected by a universal law called Planckian
> dissipation phenomenon.
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 3:03 PM Axil Axil  wrote:
>
>
> https://www.quantamagazine.org/universal-quantum-phenomenon-found-in-superconductors-20181119/
>
>
>
> Universal Quantum Phenomenon Found in Strange Metals
>
>
>
> It looks like black holes, superconductivity, the uncertainty principle,
> gravity, and the holographic universe are connected by an as not yet fully
> understood commonality: Planckian dissipation phenomenon.
>
>
>

RE: [Vo]:Planckian dissipation phenomenon--first proposed by Tongin X. Cheek

[bobcook39...@hotmail.com]

Axil—

You should give due credit to the author.

Bob Cook


From: Axil Axil<mailto:janap...@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2019 12:36 PM
To: vortex-l<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Planckian dissipation phenomenon


This new finding could have implications for the theory of LENR. There have 
been many and varied observations that Bose condensates behave just like black 
holes. Bose condensates are superconducting and coherent. Hydrides including 
ultra dense hydrogen are superconducting under high pressure. There could be a 
fundamental quantum mechanical based behavioral law at play that causes Bose 
condensates to mimic black holes. It could be this universal property of the 
universe that gives LENR its soul. It is this black hole like behavior: namely 
hawking radiation that may be the major source of power production related to 
the LENR reaction.

Those strange tachyon like particles we call strange radiation or black EVOs 
that we see in LENR experiments could be superconducting, Bose condensate like, 
Plasmoids that produce the vacuum energy that we see in LENR. It all could be 
connected by a universal law called Planckian dissipation phenomenon.

On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 3:03 PM Axil Axil 
mailto:janap...@gmail.com>> wrote:
https://www.quantamagazine.org/universal-quantum-phenomenon-found-in-superconductors-20181119/

Universal Quantum Phenomenon Found in Strange Metals

It looks like black holes, superconductivity, the uncertainty principle, 
gravity, and the holographic universe are connected by an as not yet fully 
understood commonality: Planckian dissipation phenomenon.

Re: [Vo]:Planckian dissipation phenomenon

[Axil Axil]

I don't beleive that superconductivity of hydrifes under high pressure
involves cooper pairing. There is research that shows that high pressure
hydrides and metals can retain their coherent quantum states up to a
temperature of 90,000 F. Such a coherent state at such high temperatures is
probably due to a non equilibrium Bose condensation process involving
polaritons.

see



Breakdown of Fermi degeneracy in the simplest liquid metal ( ULTRA DENSE
DEUTERIUM)

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/330775614_Breakdown_of_Fermi_degeneracy_in_the_simplest_liquid_metal

On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 6:49 PM Jones Beene  wrote:

> Jürg Wyttenbach wrote:
>
> > In contrast to QM SO(4) physics gives the exact relation of
> forces/energies of spin-paired electrons, what is the first step of
> condensation of matter below Bohr radius.
>
> Hi,
>
> If you have a minute - what is the exact relation that you mention? Is
> there a known binding energy for spin-paired electrons that is supported by
> this theory ?
>
>

Re: [Vo]:Planckian dissipation phenomenon

[Axil Axil]

Quote

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-019-08735-8

Optical space-time wave packets having arbitrary group velocities in free
space

This article has shown experimentally that light can travel at speeds that
exceed the speed of light (30C).
Quote

https://www.nature.com/articles/lsa2017119

Superluminal X-waves in a polariton quantum fluid

The ability to twist light in a way so that its waveform can be separated
from its energy so that its wave front can travel at superluminal speed is
indispensable to the LENR reaction.

I have been doing some research into tachyons and have been trying to
understand faster than light wave propagation, specifically x-waves. Here
is something interesting about how special relativity and superluminal wave
propagation relate:

http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/Superluminal.html

Portions of this entry contributed by Waldyr A. Rodrigues, Jr.

A superluminal phenomenon is a frame of reference traveling with a speed
greater than the speed of light c. There is a putative class of particles
dubbed tachyons which are able to travel faster than light.
Faster-than-light phenomena violate the usual understanding of the "flow"
of time, a state of affairs which is known as the causality problem (and
also called the "Shalimar Treaty").

It should be noted that while Einstein's theory of special relativity
prevents (real) mass, energy, or information from traveling faster than the
speed of light c (Lorentz et al. 1952, Brillouin and Sommerfeld 1960, Born
and Wolf 1999, Landau and Lifschitz 1997), there is nothing preventing
"apparent" motion faster than c (or, in fact, with negative speeds,
implying arrival at a destination before leaving the origin). For example,
the phase velocity and group velocity of a wave may exceed the speed of
light, but in such cases, no energy or information actually travels faster
than c. Experiments showing group velocities greater than c include that of
Wang et al. (2000), who produced a laser pulse in atomic cesium gas with a
group velocity of -310c. In each case, the observed superluminal
propagation is not at odds with causality, and is instead a consequence of
classical interference between its constituent frequency components in a
region of anomalous dispersion (Wang et al. 2000).

Keith Fredericks has an opinion that strange radiation is a tachyon. This
SR quasiparticle might be tachyonic is that it is most likely based on the
polariton. The polariton does generate superluminal light in the form of
x-waves.

https://www.nature.com/articles/lsa2017119

Superluminal X-waves in a polariton quantum fluid

This article shows that a polariton can naturally produce superluminal
light (X-waves) when excited with a pulsed laser.

This unexpected behavior of light may explain how Strange radiation (SR)
can be considered a tachyon, a superluminal particle.

If the SR is composed of excited entangled polaritons that are producing
superluminal light, the SR could be generating a tachyonic field.

A  tachyonic field is a field that has its maximum energy potential at the
instant of its creation and and upon perturbation releases that energy
instantaneously.
Quote

tachyonic field

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tachyonic_field

Also. this ability for the polariton to generate superluminal light
(X-waves) could also be at the root of the polariton's dark mode mechanism.
This dark mode behavior of SR that has been discovered by Ken shoulders in
what he termed  as a black EVO could be based on the polariton's ability to
generate superluminal light via X-waves. Only a superluminal light vortex
can produce a light based black hole that can trap and hold onto a photon.


On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 6:25 PM Jürg Wyttenbach  wrote:

> Axil!
>
> QM gauge is charge (Coulomb)- based. There is no way to explain
> condensation below Bohr radius with this method as all such attempts must
> violate the gauge.
>
> In contrast to QM SO(4) physics gives the exact relation of
> forces/energies of spin-paired electrons, what is the first step of
> condensation of matter below Bohr radius. It's a shame that most physicists
> do not understand the structure of the nuclear magnetic field (e.g. given
> by Mills) and even use pure Coulomb law to derive a fictive charge radius
> (Holmlid UDH..) At about 2pm radius the classic 3D,t magnetic force is
> already stronger than the coulomb force and thus any model made by
> QM/coulomb only, is void by definition.
>
> As the famous experiment with close to unlimited phase speed for photons
> shows any amount of energy can go into rotation = magnetic mass. Higher
> speed than c is only possible if the EM-mass takes a short-cut through
> higher dimensions. Already in SO(4) the speed up can be 32 for (5) single
> side rotations or 64 for double side. This is given by the space-energy
> metric.
>
> Classic 3D,t physics with a separate  gravitational mass is a
> simplification of the reality that has no mathematical power to explain
> higher 

Re: [Vo]:Planckian dissipation phenomenon

[mixent]

In reply to  Jones Beene's message of Fri, 3 May 2019 22:48:44 + (UTC):
Hi Jones,
[snip]
> Jürg Wyttenbach wrote: 
>> In contrast to QM SO(4) physics gives the exact relation of forces/energies 
>> of spin-paired electrons, what is the first step of condensation of matter 
>> below Bohr radius.
>Hi,
>If you have a minute - what is the exact relation that you mention? Is there a 
>known binding energy for spin-paired electrons that is supported by this 
>theory ?
>   
I suspect the binding energy would depend on separation distance.
Regards,


Robin van Spaandonk

local asymmetry = temporary success

Re: [Vo]:Planckian dissipation phenomenon

[Jones Beene]

 Jürg Wyttenbach wrote: 
> In contrast to QM SO(4) physics gives the exact relation of forces/energies 
> of spin-paired electrons, what is the first step of condensation of matter 
> below Bohr radius.
Hi,
If you have a minute - what is the exact relation that you mention? Is there a 
known binding energy for spin-paired electrons that is supported by this theory 
?
   

Re: [Vo]:Planckian dissipation phenomenon

[Jürg Wyttenbach]

Axil!

QM gauge is charge (Coulomb)- based. There is no way to explain 
condensation below Bohr radius with this method as all such attempts 
must violate the gauge.


In contrast to QM SO(4) physics gives the exact relation of 
forces/energies of spin-paired electrons, what is the first step of 
condensation of matter below Bohr radius. It's a shame that most 
physicists do not understand the structure of the nuclear magnetic field 
(e.g. given by Mills) and even use pure Coulomb law to derive a fictive 
charge radius (Holmlid UDH..) At about 2pm radius the classic 3D,t 
magnetic force is already stronger than the coulomb force and thus any 
model made by QM/coulomb only, is void by definition.


As the famous experiment with close to unlimited phase speed for photons 
shows any amount of energy can go into rotation = magnetic mass. Higher 
speed than c is only possible if the EM-mass takes a short-cut through 
higher dimensions. Already in SO(4) the speed up can be 32 for (5) 
single side rotations or 64 for double side. This is given by the 
space-energy metric.


Classic 3D,t physics with a separate  gravitational mass is a 
simplification of the reality that has no mathematical power to explain 
higher dimensional spin flux  as seen in super conduction. In SO(4) 
physics the gravitational mass can be exactly derived from the basic 
form factors and as it shows, gravitational mass is residual EM-mass - 
nothing more.


I personally expect that many old rules (e.g. about bosons, fermions..) 
that are based on the over simplified old terminology will disappear, as 
soon as people understand how to properly model matter.  A first step 
would be to unify the photon orbit structure with the in mater orbit 
structure for charge bound mass. Here SO(4) has the unique property that 
one side of the orbit can be open and connect to neighbor orbits what 
allows the loss-less exchange of spin-orbit energy. Classically this 
looks like "halve of a photon wave" would "attach" to the nuclear charge 
and the other halve is flowing on to the next nucleus. Such a model 
would also allow to calculate the critical temperature based on matching 
SO(4) orbit radii.


Jürg





Am 03.05.2019 um 23:09 schrieb Axil Axil:

Jones,

I agree that the electron cover forms a cloud around the positive core 
of the cluster. But the formation of a Bose condensate and associated 
superconductivity requires that the electrons must be converted to 
bosons. This occurs when the Ultra dense hydrogen is irradiated with 
the laser, or a spark or room lighting. This light source provides the 
photons that will entangle the electron cover to generate the Bosons 
in the form of polaritons. Polaritons will readily produce a bose 
condensate when their density reaches a critical level.


On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 4:49 PM JonesBeene > wrote:


Another possibility for LENR  is that dense hydrogen clusters
configure themselves to  assume the “strange metal” state. The
 orbital electron becomes effectively unbound and  minimally
associated with any single nuclepn. If the electrons then form
into much denser Cooper pairs, due to the associated positive
charge of the protons, then they should condense even further.

I think the paper got this part partly right and partly wrong.
QUOTE: electrons… may be organizing themselves into a “maximally
scrambled” quantum state, in which the properties of each electron
depend on those of every other. This state of maximum scrambling
might allow the electrons to scatter off one another and spread
energy as quickly as the laws of quantum mechanics permit.

Most likely a “maximally scrambled” quantum state is an electron
condensate. Since electrons are fermions they must first pair,
which we know does happen.

Perhaps this paper could be revised to include Cooper pairing
followed by condensation.

*From: *Axil Axil 

This new finding could have implications for the theory of LENR.
There have been many and varied observations that Bose condensates
behave just like black holes. Bose condensates are superconducting
and coherent. Hydrides including ultra dense hydrogen are
superconducting under high pressure. There could be a fundamental
quantum mechanical based behavioral law at play that causes Bose
condensates to mimic black holes. It could be this universal
property of the universe that gives LENR its soul. It is this
black hole like behavior: namely hawking radiation that may be the
major source of power production related to the LENR reaction.

Those strange tachyon like particles we call strange radiation or
black EVOs that we see in LENR experiments could be
superconducting, Bose condensate like, Plasmoids that produce the
vacuum energy that we see in LENR. It all could be connected by a
universal law called Planckian dissipation 

Re: [Vo]:Planckian dissipation phenomenon

[Axil Axil]

Jones,

I agree that the electron cover forms a cloud around the positive core of
the cluster. But the formation of a Bose condensate and associated
superconductivity requires that the electrons must be converted to bosons.
This occurs when the Ultra dense hydrogen is irradiated with the laser, or
a spark or room lighting. This light source provides the photons that will
entangle the electron cover to generate the Bosons in the form of
polaritons. Polaritons will readily produce a bose condensate when their
density reaches a critical level.

On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 4:49 PM JonesBeene  wrote:

> Another possibility for LENR  is that dense hydrogen clusters configure
> themselves to  assume the “strange metal” state. The  orbital electron
> becomes effectively unbound and  minimally associated with any single
> nuclepn. If the electrons then form into much denser Cooper pairs, due to
> the associated positive charge of the protons, then they should condense
> even further.
>
>
>
> I think the paper got this part partly right and partly wrong. QUOTE:
> electrons… may be organizing themselves into a “maximally scrambled”
> quantum state, in which the properties of each electron depend on those of
> every other. This state of maximum scrambling might allow the electrons to
> scatter off one another and spread energy as quickly as the laws of quantum
> mechanics permit.
>
>
>
> Most likely a “maximally scrambled” quantum state is an electron
> condensate. Since electrons are fermions they must first pair, which we
> know does happen.
>
>
>
> Perhaps this paper could be revised to include Cooper pairing followed by
> condensation.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *Axil Axil 
>
>
>
> This new finding could have implications for the theory of LENR. There
> have been many and varied observations that Bose condensates behave just
> like black holes. Bose condensates are superconducting and coherent.
> Hydrides including ultra dense hydrogen are superconducting under high
> pressure. There could be a fundamental quantum mechanical based behavioral
> law at play that causes Bose condensates to mimic black holes. It could be
> this universal property of the universe that gives LENR its soul. It is
> this black hole like behavior: namely hawking radiation that may be the
> major source of power production related to the LENR reaction.
>
> Those strange tachyon like particles we call strange radiation or black
> EVOs that we see in LENR experiments could be superconducting, Bose
> condensate like, Plasmoids that produce the vacuum energy that we see in
> LENR. It all could be connected by a universal law called Planckian
> dissipation phenomenon.
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 3:03 PM Axil Axil  wrote:
>
>
> https://www.quantamagazine.org/universal-quantum-phenomenon-found-in-superconductors-20181119/
>
>
>
> Universal Quantum Phenomenon Found in Strange Metals
>
>
>
> It looks like black holes, superconductivity, the uncertainty principle,
> gravity, and the holographic universe are connected by an as not yet fully
> understood commonality: Planckian dissipation phenomenon.
>
>
>

RE: [Vo]:Planckian dissipation phenomenon

[JonesBeene]

Another possibility for LENR  is that dense hydrogen clusters configure 
themselves to  assume the “strange metal” state. The  orbital electron becomes 
effectively unbound and  minimally associated with any single nuclepn. If the 
electrons then form into much denser Cooper pairs, due to the associated 
positive charge of the protons, then they should condense even further. 

I think the paper got this part partly right and partly wrong. QUOTE: 
electrons… may be organizing themselves into a “maximally scrambled” quantum 
state, in which the properties of each electron depend on those of every other. 
This state of maximum scrambling might allow the electrons to scatter off one 
another and spread energy as quickly as the laws of quantum mechanics permit.

Most likely a “maximally scrambled” quantum state is an electron condensate. 
Since electrons are fermions they must first pair, which we know does happen.  

Perhaps this paper could be revised to include Cooper pairing followed by 
condensation.


From: Axil Axil

This new finding could have implications for the theory of LENR. There have 
been many and varied observations that Bose condensates behave just like black 
holes. Bose condensates are superconducting and coherent. Hydrides including 
ultra dense hydrogen are superconducting under high pressure. There could be a 
fundamental quantum mechanical based behavioral law at play that causes Bose 
condensates to mimic black holes. It could be this universal property of the 
universe that gives LENR its soul. It is this black hole like behavior: namely 
hawking radiation that may be the major source of power production related to 
the LENR reaction.
Those strange tachyon like particles we call strange radiation or black EVOs 
that we see in LENR experiments could be superconducting, Bose condensate like, 
Plasmoids that produce the vacuum energy that we see in LENR. It all could be 
connected by a universal law called Planckian dissipation phenomenon.

On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 3:03 PM Axil Axil  wrote:
https://www.quantamagazine.org/universal-quantum-phenomenon-found-in-superconductors-20181119/

Universal Quantum Phenomenon Found in Strange Metals

It looks like black holes, superconductivity, the uncertainty principle, 
gravity, and the holographic universe are connected by an as not yet fully 
understood commonality: Planckian dissipation phenomenon.

Re: [Vo]:Planckian dissipation phenomenon

[Axil Axil]

This new finding could have implications for the theory of LENR. There have
been many and varied observations that Bose condensates behave just like
black holes. Bose condensates are superconducting and coherent. Hydrides
including ultra dense hydrogen are superconducting under high pressure.
There could be a fundamental quantum mechanical based behavioral law at
play that causes Bose condensates to mimic black holes. It could be this
universal property of the universe that gives LENR its soul. It is this
black hole like behavior: namely hawking radiation that may be the major
source of power production related to the LENR reaction.

Those strange tachyon like particles we call strange radiation or black
EVOs that we see in LENR experiments could be superconducting, Bose
condensate like, Plasmoids that produce the vacuum energy that we see in
LENR. It all could be connected by a universal law called Planckian
dissipation phenomenon.

On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 3:03 PM Axil Axil  wrote:

>
> https://www.quantamagazine.org/universal-quantum-phenomenon-found-in-superconductors-20181119/
>
> Universal Quantum Phenomenon Found in Strange Metals
>
> It looks like black holes, superconductivity, the uncertainty principle,
> gravity, and the holographic universe are connected by an as not yet fully
> understood commonality: Planckian dissipation phenomenon.
>

[Vo]:Planckian dissipation phenomenon

[Axil Axil]

https://www.quantamagazine.org/universal-quantum-phenomenon-found-in-superconductors-20181119/

Universal Quantum Phenomenon Found in Strange Metals

It looks like black holes, superconductivity, the uncertainty principle,
gravity, and the holographic universe are connected by an as not yet fully
understood commonality: Planckian dissipation phenomenon.