Re: lPad Internet Connection

[petercrisp]

Hi John, yes it will help to know what attempts you have tried so far
but until then, immediate steps I can think of are below and this
assumes the device is a WiFi only iPad and in the same WiFi network as
the other devices you indicate do connect with the internet.

* Go to Settings>WiFi and Forget the network you think you're
connected to.
* Re-establish connection to the WiFi network - enter password for
selected wifi network
* Close all open background app - double click Home button and swipe
up on all apps
* Reset the iPad - hold Home and Power buttons firmly and
simultaneously until the Apple symbol appears - allow it to reboot
* Open Safari and see if Google.com opens?

Let us know status after trying this.
Regards
Pete

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 Good afternoon John, 
Can you let the group know what is your set-up and what steps you have
taken so far? I am no expert but I am trying to determine at what
stage you are stuck and see if I have any suggestions. 
Many thanks & best regards, 
Philippe C. 

 Philippe dit la Grenouille ...  
On 25 Jul 2019, at 10:31 am, John Thompson  wrote:
I know, senility is a big issue.  I have been trying for the past
hour or so to connect my iPad (6th gen), iOS 12.3.1, to the internet
without success.  There is no problem with my iphone or Mac Mini.
Does anyone have any suggestions as I seem to have run out of ideas.

Regards

John Thompson

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Re: MacBook Pro with Wifi signal but no Internet

[petercrisp]

Hi Daniel, yes indeed it was the Intego thing. As soon as I read this
it reminded me of the NetNanny program I used a long time ago. I
thought I had done a full uninstal when I decided to no longer use it
but still the kernel file remained. 
Regards
Pete.

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Sent:Wed, 5 Jun 2019 09:37:11 +0800
Subject:Re: MacBook Pro with Wifi signal but no Internet

 Hi Peter

 Yes, the devil is in the detail,…lol. Glad you got it all working.
I’ve had a similar job to that one as well. (The culprit was s
similar thing by Intego). Same error message and similar fix for it.
 It’s due to the part of that software not being fully optimised for
the System. (So the two don’t play well together.)

 Glad you saw the full error message in the end. And all is working.
 Kind regards
 Daniel

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 > On 4 Jun 2019, at 9:05 pm, Peter Crisp  wrote:
 > 
 > Thanks Daniel and Ronni for further tips. Well, short story I have
fixed this issue from the most unexpected thing. There was a kernel
file relating to NetNanny which was a third party security program not
been used for many many years. I had in my fury omitted to look
clearly at the message Safari was giving me each time it failed. All l
saw was “Not f. working”! But tonight after a bit of calming I
took a closer look. The message provided by Safari indicated this
error code. “NSPOSIXErrorDomain:1”. When I googled this I got the
third party security program issue and so I went hunting for stuff -
it provided some locations to go looking. I found one solitary file
“NetNanny Kernel Ext”. I trashed it and after a restart, bingo!
Amazing. I would never have though that something that has been
lurking there for years and not a problem since then and coinciding
with an OSX update this all of a sudden became a problem. 
 > 
 > Lesson for me is to look at the error code next time!
 > 
 > I hope this can help others in some small way.
 > 
 > Regards
 > 
 > 
 > Pete
 > 
 > On 4 Jun 2019, at 7:46 pm, Ronda Brown  wrote:
 > 
 >> Hi Peter,
 >> 
 >> Have you run Wireless Diagnostics on Jo’s MBP?
 >> 
 >> Your Mac can use Wireless Diagnostics to perform additional
analysis. 
 >> • Quit any apps that are open, and connect to your Wi-Fi
network, if possible.
 >> • Hold down the Option key and choose Open Wireless Diagnostics
from the Wi-Fi status menu .
 >> • Enter your administrator name and password when prompted.
 >> Wireless Diagnostics begins analyzing your wireless environment:
 >> 
 >> Kind Regards,
 >> 
 >> Ronni
 >> 
 >>> On 4 Jun 2019, at 8:13 am, petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 >>> 
 >>> Hi Ronni, thanks for that one. I had omitted to mention in my
list of things that I had tried that I saw an online tip to try this
one. So I did already try it and sadly it didn't resolve the issue. It
does seem after some of these tests that it pauses momentarily (I am
using Safari and select Google web page to put to the test) before
getting the "no internet connection:" message. 
 >>> 
 >>> Will have a calm look at it again tonight, sometimes I feel that
in trying some of these items, it is the order in which they are tried
seems to make a difference, although i am unclear on which order is
the right order, the order from my side seems to be random.
 >>> 
 >>> Regards
 >>> 
 >>> Pete.
 >>> 
 >>> 
 >>> 
 >>> - Original Message -
 >>> From:
 >>> wamug@wamug.org.au
 >>> 
 >>> To:
 >>> 
 >>> Cc:
 >>> 
 >>> Sent:
 >>> Tue, 4 Jun 2019 06:41:45 +0800
 >>> Subject:
 >>> Re: MacBook Pro with Wifi signal but no Internet
 >>> 
 >>> 
 >>> Hi Peter,
 >>> 
 >>> On Your wife’s MBP try:
 >>> Edit her Locations in Network Preferences. 
 >>> In Edit Locations, from the drop-down click the “+” to create
a new Location, name it “Automatic” (any name will do)...
 >>> The new location will setup new a new default WiFi (and Ethernet
and FireWire) and hopefully will connect to the Internet immediately.
 >>> 
 >>> Kind Regards,
 >>> Ronni
 >>> 
 >>>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
 >>> 
 >>> 
  On 3 Jun 2019, at 9:19 pm, Peter Crisp  wrote:
  
  Hi folks, I have had the issue as noted in the subject line
before many many times and I have been able to resolve albeit with
many different methods. 
  
  My wife’s MBP 2011 has developed this problem, not
surprisingly coincident with the OSX update to 10.14.5. 
  
  It all started when Jo said she had no sound from the MBA
speakers. I did the usual 

Re: MacBook Pro with Wifi signal but no Internet

[petercrisp]

Hi Ronni, thanks for that one. I had omitted to mention in my list of
things that I had tried that I saw an online tip to try this one. So I
did already try it and sadly it didn't resolve the issue. It does seem
after some of these tests that it pauses momentarily (I am using
Safari and select Google web page to put to the test) before getting
the "no internet connection:" message.  
Will have a calm look at it again tonight, sometimes I feel that in
trying some of these items, it is the order in which they are tried
seems to make a difference, although i am unclear on which order is
the right order, the order from my side seems to be random.
Regards
Pete.

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Sent:Tue, 4 Jun 2019 06:41:45 +0800
Subject:Re: MacBook Pro with Wifi signal but no Internet

 Hi Peter,

 On Your wife’s MBP try:
 Edit her Locations in Network Preferences. 
 In Edit Locations, from the drop-down click the “+” to create a
new Location, name it “Automatic” (any name will do)...
 The new location will setup new a new default WiFi (and Ethernet and
FireWire) and hopefully will connect to the Internet immediately.

 Kind Regards,
 Ronni

  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 

 > On 3 Jun 2019, at 9:19 pm, Peter Crisp  wrote:
 > 
 > Hi folks, I have had the issue as noted in the subject line before
many many times and I have been able to resolve albeit with many
different methods. 
 > 
 > My wife’s MBP 2011 has developed this problem, not surprisingly
coincident with the OSX update to 10.14.5. 
 > 
 > It all started when Jo said she had no sound from the MBA speakers.
I did the usual settings review and then did a reboot. This resolved
the sound issue. I can’t recall if this coincided with the update of
the OSX too but the sound is fixed. But we have no Internet service
now. Things I have done here:
 > 
 > PRAM reset
 > SMC Reset
 > Reboot
 > PRAM reset
 > SMC Reset
 > Network reset 
 > Forget Wifi connection and re-establish
 > Clear DNS settings, Try the Google 8.8.8.8, try others, back to
10.1.1.1
 > Renew DHCP licence
 > Try to connect via a iPhone hotspot (which is accessing internet
fine)
 > 
 > Is this a 10.14.5 issue? I can’t get to the internet with this
MBP to do anything about it. 
 > 
 > Any clues folks?
 > 
 > 
 > Regards
 > 
 > 
 > Pete
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Re: Something I didn't buy

[petercrisp]

Yes, I concur with Peter (H)'s advice there. You do not want to fall
for the bait of replying to something the slightest bit dodgy looking.
My wife who is very disciplined in reviewing daily all credit card
transactions on the banking app recently noted 5 transactions in the
space of 24 hours. Chronologically > $0.99, $0.99, $67.00, $154.00,
$167.00. They were ALL transactions from Apple on the credit card
statement. Upon noting this, she immediately called the bank to report
and shut down the credit card which had clearly been compromised. The
$0.99 transactions were the giveaway "test" transactions by the
perpetrator as a means to test the card for being able to be hit with
dodgy transactions. All costs were reimbursed and a new physical card
issued. Fortunately through all of this, Apple Pay continues to
function with no discontinuity, so is a good thing to have set up as a
fallback should you ever find yourself in this position of reluctance
to cancel your card, you can still buy stuff over the counter. 

Regards
Pete.
Go Eagles! and Pies!

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Subject:Re: Something I didn't buy

 > On 9 May 2019, at 9:42 pm, Pat  wrote:
 > 
 > I received an email today which may or may not have come from
Apple. It says, “Your Apple Subscription Receipt” (to Netflix).
But, I did not order a subscription. I think it is probably a scam,
although it looks very authentic. One anomaly is that where it says
‘you can cancel a Subscription at any time: Cancel/Refund
Subscription’ there is no URL.
 > 
 > The email did not say ‘No Reply’, so I did reply, but it
bounced.
 > 
 > What recourse do I have?
 > 

 1. Always, always, ALWAYS make it your first order of business to
check the sending address of the email. If it has genuinely come from
Apple, the sending address will end in .apple.com. If its some variant
of .apple.xxx.com, or something else that doesn’t evem contain the
word “apple”, you can be sure it didn’t come from anyone at
Apple. Likewise, a genuine email from Netflix will end in
.netflix.com, not some variant of .netflix.xxx.com. You can check the
sending address byt rolling over the address at the very top of the
email and clicking on the little disclosure trinagle that appears
(assuming you’re using Mail). 

 2. Never, never, NEVER reply to suspicious emails. It’s just
inviting a ton of trouble. It confirms that your email address is
real, inviting a potential flood of spam from the same source or
others.

 Kind regards,

 Peter Hinchliffe Apwin Computer Services
 FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
 Perth, Western Australia
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Re: System migration to new computer

[petercrisp]

Thanks Alan, you're obviously under some time pressures but I would be
keen to hear the outcome of your process that ultimately works for
your transition - even if it is in a couple of weeks time.
Good luck.
Pete. 

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Subject:Re: System migration to new computer

 Hi Neil
Just to clarify points about system migration.  My understanding from
reading, not practical experience, is that direct target mode will not
work.  Macbook Air is mid 2012 model with Thunderbolt 1 ports and no
ethernet.  Mac Mini is 2018 model with Thunderbolt 3 ports plus
ethernet.  Time Capsule has ethernet ports.  Apple sell a
Thunderbolt 3 to Thunderbolt 2 adapter.  Simple choice - use the Time
Machine backup via ethernet.
The MBA OS is latest Mojave.  Assumption is that the Mac Mini will
have version 1 of Mojave OS.
Given the urgency of getting the system migrated, the MBA has not been
fully prepared with getting everything up to date and ancient apps
deleted. It probably has legacy stuff and file structures from a
series of Mac migrations over the years.  A complete clean install
would be very nice, but b.i.l. does not have the time for this.
Your input has been very valuable.  Not least to clarify the problems
and options. I will be visiting brother in law later this morning when
we can finalise plans and perhaps start the migration process.
CheersAlan

On 8 May 2019, at 9:58 pm, Neil Houghton  wrote:
Hi Alan,

 Hmmm - not really what I have found. Obviously you cannot just
clone the HD from one machine to a different computer model/vintage as
many configuration files/systems are different. However, migration
assistant allows you to select what you want to migrate anyway. 

 At different times/scenarios I have sometimes migrated almost
everything and sometimes opted for a clean system install and then
manual installation of apps –among other factors, it tends to depend
on how well the old system was running and/or whether I wanted to
re-organise my filing organisation.

 You do not say what OS you are running on the old and on the new
computers – certainly, for me, jumping from OSX 10.6 direct to OSX
10.11 meant that many applications required updating and, for example,
moving from Office 2004 to Office 365 (Office 2016) had me glad that I
still had a bootable  SL disc and could download and run Office 2011
which was a big help in the transition.

 Generally, I would say, the simplest/easiest migrations for me have
been booting the old machine into target disk mode and then running
migration assistant – but there have certainly been times when I
chose another route.

 

 Others may have their own opinions as to the best methods.

 

 HTH

 

 Cheers

 

 

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FROM:  on behalf of Alan Smith 
REPLY-TO: WAMUG 
DATE: Wednesday, 08 May 2019 at 16:46
TO: WAMUG 
SUBJECT: Re: System migration to new computer

 

Hi Neil

 

Good to read about your setup and rationale for backups. And advice
about other actions. Most Apple KB and help files only explain the
simple one computer scenario.

 

You questioned why a direct mac to mac migration was not first
choice. My favourite on-line Mac expert (Howard Oakley) looks at
various parameters of the two macs involved in migration. He points
out the old mac may have a newer macOS version than the new mac and
will probably fail the initial Migration attempt. A move from an old
iMac to a new iMac is relatively simple as there is little
“distance" between them.  But there is a big distance between a
MacBook Air and a Mac mini. He comments on five actual migration
methods.  Here are the first three: Direct mac to mac is best if
similar models and hardware are on each. Time Machine is first choice
with older systems and more different models. An external disk with
clone of old Mac is a good source for manual migration.

 

I would not be surprised if the first attempt using Migration
Assistant failed and that the Mac Mini will have to be updated to the
current version of Mojave before proceeding.   Reminder: turn OFF
automatic updates of the MBA OS before the migration task begins!

 

Cheers

Alan

On 8 May 2019, at 2:23 pm, Neil Houghton  wrote:

 

Hi Alan, Hi Peter,

 

I can sympathise with your predicaments – I recently upgraded two
iMacs and a laptop from Snow Leopard 10.6 to El Capitan 10.11 and,
just to complicate things, the main iMac was running from an external
drive since the internal hard drive had previously died (the external
drive was initially a clone of the dead HD 

Re: System migration to new computer

[petercrisp]

Hi Alan, yes that is possibly a good way to go. A further thinking on
this just now you jogged my thoughts. Is to establish a new 'clean'
backup file (rename the old one to break the link - not sure if TM is
clever enough to detect if the renamed file is in fact still the
backup file it will want to default backup to) of the MBA SSD only
(being sure to exclude the attached external drive using Options from
the backup routine). Then use MA to restore that new backup to the Mac
Mini with confidence you know it is only the MBA data restored and not
a conglomeration of the MBA + external drive data onto the Mac Mini.
Then just transfer the external drive to the mac Mini USB and then
create another new TM backup with the external drive INCLUDED in the
routine. This will of course will leave the history non-existent from
the previous backup - may or may not be important to you. 
Regards
Pete.

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 Thanks for your thoughts Peter (C)
Current idea is now to remove the data drive via Time Machine
preferences and run a few days of plain MBA SSD backups.  The HOPE is
that Migration Assistant would allow a TM backup from a specified date
and therefore copy just the latest 150GB or whatever.   May even try
adding a third TM backup drive to create a “pure” SSD source for
initial migration with a short date range, while the other TM drives
are temporarily removed. Then, as Peter (H) said, try it!  
CheersAlan

On 8 May 2019, at 9:34 am, petercr...@westnet.com.au [1] wrote:
Hi Peter and Alan. This is a conundrum I have yet to encounter but I
had wondered how I would do it if I ever had to. I have a similar
environment where I have an MBP (256GB SSD) and a 2TB external drive
holding Photos library, iTunes library and an assortment of other
foldered items. My external drive is INCLUDED in the back up to Time
Capsule. I also periodically do a CCC backup of both the MBP and
External drive too for some added protection. 
What I have observed, during a trial I did a few months back, is when
using the recovery process from the TM backup, if I was to try and
recover a file that was resident on the external drive, then I must
have the external drive attached to the MBP for it to be reinstated
back to. Conversely, if I were to not have the external drive attached
to my MBP, when I try to do a recovery of a file that was on the
external drive, then the ability to see the image of the backed up
external drive to select a file to recover is not made available. It
follows therefore (I think) that if I was to try and recover the
entire external drive using TM, then I would need to have that drive
attached in the destination of where I was trying to recover it to. 
A suggestion to think about before implementing anything. If you were
to use Migration Assistant to restore the backup of the on-board SSD
content ONLY from the TM backup to the Mac Mini (with the external
drive NOT attached to the Mac Mini), then it would follow that only
the on-board SSD backed up content from the MBA would be recovered
onto the Mac Mini 256GB SSD. If you then were to attach the external
drive to the Mac Mini, then you are back in the same place you were
previously - the Mac Mini is a clone of the Macbook Air and the
external drive is now moved over to the Mac Mini. Another of my
observations is that the first time that Time Machine does a backup of
this new configuration, it will create a new backup of the ENTIRE SSD
+ the ENTIRE external drive, even though the content is the very same
content. This has the undesirable effect of bloating the backup file
and you may run out of space on it. Maybe there is a clever way to
make it recognise it's backing up stuff it has already backed up, so
only does an incremental backup, ie only a back up of what has
changed.
I think TM is pretty clever but without knowing exactly how it will
behave in these circumstances, it's difficult to know what you'll end
up with. But as Peter indicates, the worst that can happen is you have
to clear it off the Mac Mini and start again.
Another thing with TM is to be extremely patient. Extremely patient.
Extremely patient.
Regards
Pete.

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To:
Cc:
Sent:Wed, 8 May 2019 08:03:17 +0800
Subject:Re: System migration to new computer

 > On 8 May 2019, at 6:34 am, Alan Smith  wrote:
 > 
 > What is the best way to migrate complete data and settings from an
unreliable 2012 MacBook Air to a still-in-the-box 2018 Mac mini? Both
macs have internal 256 GB SSD. There are Time Machine and Super Duper
backups. I will be the technical assistant for my brother in law who
owns the macs.
 > 
 > I proposed to use Migration Assistant from Time Machine but this
has a complication. The MBA has a 1TB external data drive using
symbolic links. Time Machine includes the data drive in its backups to

Re: System migration to new computer

[petercrisp]

Hi Peter and Alan. This is a conundrum I have yet to encounter but I
had wondered how I would do it if I ever had to. I have a similar
environment where I have an MBP (256GB SSD) and a 2TB external drive
holding Photos library, iTunes library and an assortment of other
foldered items. My external drive is INCLUDED in the back up to Time
Capsule. I also periodically do a CCC backup of both the MBP and
External drive too for some added protection. 
What I have observed, during a trial I did a few months back, is when
using the recovery process from the TM backup, if I was to try and
recover a file that was resident on the external drive, then I must
have the external drive attached to the MBP for it to be reinstated
back to. Conversely, if I were to not have the external drive attached
to my MBP, when I try to do a recovery of a file that was on the
external drive, then the ability to see the image of the backed up
external drive to select a file to recover is not made available. It
follows therefore (I think) that if I was to try and recover the
entire external drive using TM, then I would need to have that drive
attached in the destination of where I was trying to recover it to. 
A suggestion to think about before implementing anything. If you were
to use Migration Assistant to restore the backup of the on-board SSD
content ONLY from the TM backup to the Mac Mini (with the external
drive NOT attached to the Mac Mini), then it would follow that only
the on-board SSD backed up content from the MBA would be recovered
onto the Mac Mini 256GB SSD. If you then were to attach the external
drive to the Mac Mini, then you are back in the same place you were
previously - the Mac Mini is a clone of the Macbook Air and the
external drive is now moved over to the Mac Mini. Another of my
observations is that the first time that Time Machine does a backup of
this new configuration, it will create a new backup of the ENTIRE SSD
+ the ENTIRE external drive, even though the content is the very same
content. This has the undesirable effect of bloating the backup file
and you may run out of space on it. Maybe there is a clever way to
make it recognise it's backing up stuff it has already backed up, so
only does an incremental backup, ie only a back up of what has
changed.
I think TM is pretty clever but without knowing exactly how it will
behave in these circumstances, it's difficult to know what you'll end
up with. But as Peter indicates, the worst that can happen is you have
to clear it off the Mac Mini and start again.
Another thing with TM is to be extremely patient. Extremely patient.
Extremely patient.
Regards
Pete.

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To:
Cc:
Sent:Wed, 8 May 2019 08:03:17 +0800
Subject:Re: System migration to new computer

 > On 8 May 2019, at 6:34 am, Alan Smith  wrote:
 > 
 > What is the best way to migrate complete data and settings from an
unreliable 2012 MacBook Air to a still-in-the-box 2018 Mac mini? Both
macs have internal 256 GB SSD. There are Time Machine and Super Duper
backups. I will be the technical assistant for my brother in law who
owns the macs.
 > 
 > I proposed to use Migration Assistant from Time Machine but this
has a complication. The MBA has a 1TB external data drive using
symbolic links. Time Machine includes the data drive in its backups to
two disks, internal and external on Time Capsule. 
 > 
 > Can Migration Assistant use Time Machine in this case? If expedient
the external TM backup disk can be removed and a new backup made of
just the MBA SSD on the TC internal disk. 
 > 
 > The MBA has bad days when it fails then restarts several times.
This has been happening for some months. A direct migration from MBA
to Mini would not seem to be feasible.
 > 
 > Your help would be appreciated.
 > 
 > Regards
 > Alan
 > 
 > 
 > 

 Logic tells me that all the files archived by Time Machine end up in
the same Time Machine folder on the TM drive, regardless of origin,
but I agree the restoration process through Migration assistant could
well be unpredictable. 

 My first insticnt would be just to try it. The worst that could
happen is that the files base on the MBA’s internal drive will be
restored to their correct locations, but those originating from the
external drive might be ignored (worst case scenario). It’s also
possible that MA, not finding a matching location on the new 2018 Mac,
might just create one and proceed regardless (best case scnario). 

 I think that if you wind up with the worst case scenario, you’d
just have to spend some time manually dragging over the folders and/or
files which were ignored. In the best case scenario, there’d be
nothing else to do. 

 Dunno. I haven’t been faced with this situation before so I can’t
report from experience unfortunately. Hopefully, there might be others
on the list who are more enlightened.

 Kind regards,

 Peter Hinchliffe Apwin Computer Services
 FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
 Perth, Western Australia
 

Re: Migration Assistant selective restoration of data

[petercrisp]

HI again Ronni and others. Last night I had an opportunity to further
look into this. As I couldn't boot the HDD from the MBP directly, I
removed it and first mounted it to my wife's MBP as the host. I was
able to review into teh drive to see if there was any remaining
evidence of teh SMC Fan Controller software using the "Leftover"
search below. Nothing found. Then using System Preferences>Startup
Disc - I changed it over to the externally connected [via SATA] from
which the MBP rebooted itself. It took some time but successfully
booted and there was no evidence of the SMC Fan Controller visible
(Menu Bar - nothing)  and Login Items nothing there. 
From this I am happy now that I can simply use MA to bring over the
data into Tim's new machine when I get it whilst connected over SATA
adaptor.
I hope that process is trouble free as it has been for me on a number
of previous occasions. 
Thanks for help along the journey from those here.
Pete.

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Sent:Mon, 28 May 2018 18:26:50 +0800
Subject:Re: Migration Assistant selective restoration of data

 Hi Peter,
If you can get rid of SMCfanControl first on Tim’s MBP before doing
a Migration from old MBP to New MBP/MBA I feel it would be
safer.I’ve given as much detail as I can below on where you will
find all the associated files SMCfanControl installs across the
System.HOW TO COMPLETELY UNINSTALL SMCFANCONTROL & ALL SUPPORTIVE
FILES, CACHE FILES & OTHER ASSOCIATED ITEMS CREATED DURING THE SETUP
AND DAILY USAGE
After you delete this app from sight, its icon may still stay on the
menu bar and your fan speed is still under the control of this
app. So to FULLY UNINSTALL SMCFANCONTROL FOR MAC AND RESTORE THE
DEFAULT FAN RPM? 
_PRIOR TO THE UNINSTALL_, you are supposed to restore the Apple
defaults of fan speed, and then deactivate the app.
1. Click on smcFanControl icon on the menu bar, and choose ACTIVE
SETTING: > DEFAULT. 2. Quit smcFanControl in the menu bar.Besides,
you can launch Activity Monitor to check if it is running on the
background.Open up ACTIVITY MONITOR from the Dock, Launchpad, or
Spotlight.Select _target process_, and click the “_QUIT PROCES_s”
button in the upper left corner.3. Open Finder, select Applications in
the sidebar and delete/drag SMCFANCONTROL to the Trashor control-click
on the app & click ’_MOVE TO TRASH_(In your case Peter I think you
said it is in the Downloads folder)
DELETE SMCFANCONTROL LEFTOVERS
1.Open the Finder, click Go in the Menu bar, and select the option Go
to Folder…2.Type the path of USER LIBRARY inside _HOME FOLDER_:
~/LIBRARY and then hit Enter key.3.Type SMCFANCONTROL IN THE SEARCH
BAR, select Library, and delete matched items in the result.
4. Type the path of the current user’s LIBRARY FOLDER: /LIBRARY, and
then hit Enter key.5. Search for the associated items in the following
locations: /Library, /Library/Caches, /Library/Preferences,
/Library/Application Support, /Library/LaunchAgents,
/Library/LaunchDaemons, /Library/PreferencePanes,
/Library/StartupItemsControl-click the matched files or folders, and
select Move to Trash option.
6. EMPTY THE TRASH
Cheers,Ronni
13-INCH MACBOOK AIR (APRIL 2014)
1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz8GB 1600MHz
LPDDR3 SDRAM
512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
macOS High Sierra 10.13.4
On 28 May 2018, at 4:49 pm, petercr...@westnet.com.au [1] wrote:
Ok, thanks Alan, your notes and those from Neil I will explore and
tread carefully. 
Kind Regards
Pete.

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Sent:Sun, 27 May 2018 21:16:50 +0800
Subject:Re: Migration Assistant selective restoration of data

 Hi Pete

 I think the easiest way would be to do a complete migration and sort
out SMC Fan Control later.

 SMC Fan Control has been around for a few years and is not malware.
In between shopping for a MBA you could investigate how to remove all
traces of it. Apple support discussion guide is simple: trash the app
then reset the SMC!

 To be really really sure, the more difficult way would be a complete
fresh installation. Install macOS, download wanted apps then copy
required data.

 To verify HDD contents would be tedious. Can you make a bootable of
clone the HDD? You could then start up from the clone in another Mac
and check where the fan control files are.

 Cheers
 Alan

 > On 27 May 2018, at 8:01 pm, Peter Crisp  wrote:
 > 
 > Hi, recently I had my son’s MBP fail with what I believe was from
his installation of some third party software which was SMC Fan
controller. I am in the process of getting myself a replacement
Macbook (likely Macbook Air). Before the MBP failed I did actually get
it to successfully complete a Time Machine backup BUT this was with
the 3rd party software still in place and therefore embedded within
the settings. I don’t know where else it may have been located
within the file structure, but I want to make sure I do not bring that
SMC Fan 

Re: Migration Assistant selective restoration of data

[petercrisp]

Ok, thanks Alan, your notes and those from Neil I will explore and
tread carefully. 
Kind Regards
Pete.

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To:"WAMUG Mailing List" 
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Sent:Sun, 27 May 2018 21:16:50 +0800
Subject:Re: Migration Assistant selective restoration of data

 Hi Pete

 I think the easiest way would be to do a complete migration and sort
out SMC Fan Control later.

 SMC Fan Control has been around for a few years and is not malware.
In between shopping for a MBA you could investigate how to remove all
traces of it. Apple support discussion guide is simple: trash the app
then reset the SMC!

 To be really really sure, the more difficult way would be a complete
fresh installation. Install macOS, download wanted apps then copy
required data.

 To verify HDD contents would be tedious. Can you make a bootable of
clone the HDD? You could then start up from the clone in another Mac
and check where the fan control files are.

 Cheers
 Alan

 > On 27 May 2018, at 8:01 pm, Peter Crisp  wrote:
 > 
 > Hi, recently I had my son’s MBP fail with what I believe was from
his installation of some third party software which was SMC Fan
controller. I am in the process of getting myself a replacement
Macbook (likely Macbook Air). Before the MBP failed I did actually get
it to successfully complete a Time Machine backup BUT this was with
the 3rd party software still in place and therefore embedded within
the settings. I don’t know where else it may have been located
within the file structure, but I want to make sure I do not bring that
SMC Fan Controller back into a replacement MBA. 
 > 
 > During the process of it failing, I managed to mount the HDD via
SATA adaptor to another MBP and locate and trash the SMC Fan
Controller.
 > 
 > I wonder would I be better off trying to selectively drag/drop data
from the HDD when mounted via SATA adaptor or would it be more
‘complete’ if I used Migration Assistant to use an Ethernet
connection to restore data from the TM backup but carefully select
what I restore so as not to bring back the ‘infected’ settings. 
 > 
 > It is my 14YO son after all and it’s not like he has lots of
important data to restore either. Main things I can think of are
iTunes library, Photos library. My preference is Migration Assistant
for the completeness of how it doe it all. Maybe there is a part MA
and part manual drag/drop.
 > 
 > Is there some other way I can test the HDD contents in a SATA
mounted state and verify before doing the actual migration to a
replacement MBA?
 > 
 > Regards
 > 
 > 
 > Pete
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[petercrisp]

HI Neil, that sounds like a good idea. I will give that a shot in the
interim to give myself comfort to move forward on this. I've not done
a TM restore to a blank external drive before, is this easy? How do I
do this?  

Regards
Pete.

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Sent:Sun, 27 May 2018 21:11:38 +0800
Subject:Re: Migration Assistant selective restoration of data

 Hi Pete,

 My personal view is that you might be worrying too much about how
evil SMC Fan controller is ;o)

 Before I repaired my iMac, after it's HD failure, I ran it for 2
years from an external HD clone - but when I first booted it up the HD
fan went rapidly up to full speed - presumably because the iMac was
not getting a valid temp signal from the dead HD. So I downloaded
SSDFanControl and used it to limit the fan speed to a sensible value -
and continued with this for around 2 years until I replaced the HD.
However I did satisfy myself (using iStat menus) that internal
temperature were OK.

 Whilst I don't dispute that SMC Fan controller might have played a
part in the demise of the MBP - I would suggest that this might be due
to "cooking" the innards due to the blocked vents and the fan speed
being set too low to counteract this rather than any inherent problem
with the software. Don't get me wrong, I quite understand you not
wanting to have this software on the new MBP - however, personally I
would be quite happy migrating stuff over from the old system and then
just doing a final check/clean up to make sure that there is no trace
of it left.

 However, if you really want to avoid any chance of it touching the
new computer, one way might be to restore the TM backup to an external
drive, then boot from this external drive and satisfy yourself that
you have completely removed the curse of SMC Fan controller from the
system on the external HD. Once you are happy with that - then migrate
over from this "clean" version.

 Just my thoughts.

 Cheers

 Neil
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 Email: n...@possumology.com

 -Original Message-
 From:  on behalf of Peter Crisp 
 Reply-To: WAMUG 
 Date: Sunday, 27 May 2018 at 20:01
 To: WAMUG 
 Subject: Migration Assistant selective restoration of data

 Hi, recently I had my son’s MBP fail with what I believe was from
his installation of some third party software which was SMC Fan
controller. I am in the process of getting myself a replacement
Macbook (likely Macbook Air). Before the MBP failed I did actually get
it to successfully complete a Time Machine backup BUT this was with
the 3rd party software still in place and therefore embedded within
the settings. I don’t know where else it may have been located
within the file structure, but I want to make sure I do not bring that
SMC Fan Controller back into a replacement MBA. 

 During the process of it failing, I managed to mount the HDD via SATA
adaptor to another MBP and locate and trash the SMC Fan Controller.

 I wonder would I be better off trying to selectively drag/drop data
from the HDD when mounted via SATA adaptor or would it be more
‘complete’ if I used Migration Assistant to use an Ethernet
connection to restore data from the TM backup but carefully select
what I restore so as not to bring back the ‘infected’ settings. 

 It is my 14YO son after all and it’s not like he has lots of
important data to restore either. Main things I can think of are
iTunes library, Photos library. My preference is Migration Assistant
for the completeness of how it doe it all. Maybe there is a part MA
and part manual drag/drop.

 Is there some other way I can test the HDD contents in a SATA mounted
state and verify before doing the actual migration to a replacement
MBA?

 Regards

 Pete
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[petercrisp]

Thanks for that lot there Neil. I am pretty careful when doing things
inside to the extent of paranoia. Double checking connections and
generally fastidious attention to the detail of the task I'm doing -
nevertheless still being human can mean errors on my part. I will try
the 'attempt boot with no RAM' and see how that goes and then install
the spare RAM's I have aside from previous work on James' machine. 
Will revert when I get through these tests. 
I appreciate everyone's constructive comments here.
Kind Regards
Pete.

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Sent:Tue, 22 May 2018 12:04:17 +0800
Subject:Re: GREAT GAME EAGLES!

Hi Pete,

 

A few more thoughts  ;o)

 

* OK even though the first thoughts for fans OK but nothing else
happens would tend to be a possible power supply or logic board
failure – ie a hardware problem with the MBP is looking more likely,
as you say you have not much to lose by trying a few long shots.

* When things do start to go wrong/fail sometimes an initial problem
is seen then other things occur – it is easy to get anchored into
trying to troubleshoot the problem by focusing on the original
problem/circumstances, whereas there may be additional, more serious,
problems that are now present – I’m not saying that anything
points to this, just to remain open to that probability.

* Having opened up the MBP to remove/change the HDD there is also the
possibility you may have disturbed something – this is obviously not
the original problem but may be hiding/hindering its solution.

 

So – a few very long shots:

* If sound has somehow been set to mute on your MBP you may not hear
the start-up chime (well I just tested a restart on my El Capitan iMac
after muting and no chime there)

* Could the brightness have got set down to minimum on the MBP
(though I would still expect that you would see something).

* Could you have disturbed any lead/connector whilst in the MBP.

* Could the RAM seating have got disturbed whilst you were in the MBP

 

Googling the problem obviously brings up lots of hits as I am sure
you have found and perused. You have obviously tried all the obvious
steps, as you said below. However, here are a few more long shots:

 

>From < https://www.ifixit.com/Answers/View/6271/>

* For me, the key was trying to start the computer with no RAM
installed. After that succeeded, I went ahead and put a single RAM
chip back in, and it started up.

* I put in a system CD and tried booting holding down the 'C' key.
Nothing happened. After a few more attempts, and thinking i was done
for, I booted it, holding down the CD eject key; wanted my system CD
back. Lo and behold, it booted! i have looked at many forums, but have
never seen this solution. (5 more posters reported that this worked
for them!)

 

And this is an old one for an iMac G5 ;o) – but the logic is not
computer specific: 

_One day, it decided not to even give me the POST chime. I took it to
the Apple ‘Genious” who promptly told me I needed a new logic
board at a cost of $440. I said no thanks and went home. I have been
an electronics tech for many years so I wasn’t going to let this go
that easily._

__

 

_I built enough clone PC’s back in the day to see a shorted
component load down the power supply and cause a seemingly unrelated
component to appear dead. This time was no exception. I unplugged
everything from the logic board except for the power supply and video
connections and hit the power button. Sure enough, I got a chime.
Began plugging things back in one at a time until I found the culprit.
Turned out to be the hard drive temp sensor. A $24 part if ordered off
the internet. No expensive logic board replacement, just a little temp
sensor board._

__

 

I think I’d better give up now  ;o)

 

 

Cheers

 

 

Neil

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FROM:  on behalf of Peter Crisp 
REPLY-TO: WAMUG 
DATE: Monday, 21 May 2018 at 21:39
TO: WAMUG 
SUBJECT: Re: GREAT GAME EAGLES!

 

Ok, following that test with a known prior running HDD, it is still
the same, black screen and gradual fan run up to full speed.

 

I have done a SMC reset (disconnect battery per instructions etc).
NVRAM reset, attempt start in Safe mode. 

 

The one thing I have noted is there is no start up chime. This chime
is seemingly, from all the Apple help, a pre-requisite to forcing the
different startup modes - like Safe Mode, etc. 

 

I think I am looking at another MBP or MBA. Even if I do that, I am
not certain how I can migrate Tims data back into a 

Re: When Time Capsule no longer functions

[petercrisp]

Noted Alan, and agreed.
Regards
Pete. 

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Sent:Fri, 18 May 2018 13:48:07 +0800
Subject:Re: When Time Capsule no longer functions

 Hi Peter

 I had a Plan B but …

 My 5 year old Time Capsule had indicators of pending failure
(intermittent orange light, auto restart of TC) towards the end of
last year. Web searches showed that the Netgear wireless router AC1750
(R6400v2) with an external hard drive was promoted as a TC/TM
replacement. It was available as a post-Christmas sale special at
around $160. Several times during the week it took me to install it I
was ready to throw it away and buy a genuine $420 Time Capsule. It
does work reliably as a WiFi router. I don’t use it as a Time
Machine. It’s network printer facility needed constant care and
attention. Its support documentation …!

 Hence Plan C - buy an Apple Airport Express ($300) and use an
external hard drive for TM.

 As it turned out it was probably the WiFi/router component of the
Time Capsule that was about to fail. I’ve had the TC in bridge mode
with both the internal drive and an attached external drive for Time
Machine, and a network printer - and use it as an ethernet hub too. No
problems at all. 

 A five year life expectancy is probably industry standard. I try and
keep things alive a little bit longer.

 I know much less than Daniel about future parts/support for a
superseded (but new) TC. But for ease of mind and comfort “for the
foreseeable future”, go for an Apple TC!

 Cheers
 Alan

 > On 18 May 2018, at 1:00 pm, Daniel Kerr  wrote:
 > 
 > Hi Peter
 > 
 > Quick reply, as just walking into another job.
 > But basically - either a wireless type hard drive. If the Time
Capsule works but internal drive “fails” then you can use a USB
drive plugged into it and “ignore” internal drive and use external
drive. (done this for a few clients). A NAS can be used as a Time
Machine backup - some specially say they’ll work with it - e.g.
Synology off top of head.
 > Just a few suggestions there.
 > 
 > I would imagine Time Capsule will keep going for a while. As it’s
just a “box” that keeps working. Only thing may be Airport Utility
that stops being able to work. But I don’t see that happening for
many years to come. Apple will keep parts for Time Capsule up to 5
years (as that’s legally how long they have to support hardware -
same as other manufacturers for parts of computer hardware).
 > 
 > Kind regards
 > Daniel
 > 
 > Sent from my iPhone 7
 > 
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 > 
 > 
 > **For everything Apple**
 > 
 > NOTE: Any information provided in this email may be my personal
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requested. 
 > 
 >> On 18 May 2018, at 12:47 pm, petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 >> 
 >> HI WAMUG users. I have been following a current thread but
Daniel's comment about the Time Capsule demise in that thread on the
horizon made me type this one. If I were to buy a spare Time Capsule,
would the software be compatible forever even with Apple no longer
supporting it?
 >> 
 >> What is Plan B in the event of the Time Capsule failing (hardware
failure) for those that do not have a spare Time Capsule - and then
eventually when no spare exists? 
 >> 
 >> Regards
 >> 
 >> Pete.
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[petercrisp]

HI WAMUG users. I have been following a current thread but Daniel's
comment about the Time Capsule demise in that thread on the horizon
made me type this one. If I were to buy a spare Time Capsule, would
the software be compatible forever even with Apple no longer
supporting it?
What is Plan B in the event of the Time Capsule failing (hardware
failure) for those that do not have a spare Time Capsule - and then
eventually when no spare exists? 
Regards
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Re: Language settings iOS

[petercrisp]

Thanks for this Ronnie, this has resolved a long running issue I've
had. It hadn't been quite irritating enough for me to resolve but now
in reading this I have resolved the issue with my devices. I had the
British English AND the United States English both ticked which had
for years been leading to odd Americanisms creeping in at time to my
typing of texts etc. I now have "colour" correctly reporting for duty
- as per these parts of the globe.

 

Pies had a good win!

 

Pete.

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Sent:Sun, 16 Jul 2017 07:34:50 +0800
Subject:Re: Language settings iOS

 Hello Tim,

 By default, your iPhone and iPad should have the Apple Dictionary and
the relevant dictionary based on your region. 

 Kind Regards,
 Ronni

 Sent from Ronni's iPad4

 > On 15 Jul 2017, at 9:00 pm, Tim Law  wrote:
 > 
 > Thanks Ronni,
 > 
 > No, it wasn’t ticked. 
 > It is now, and ‘civilisation' is allowed. Yay.
 > 
 > Is there an explanation of why both need to be ticked?
 > 
 > Appreciate your help.
 > 
 > Regards
 > 
 > Tim
 > 
 > 
 >> On 15 Jul 2017, at 7:12 pm, Ronda Brown  wrote:
 >> 
 >> Hi Tim,
 >> 
 >> Check in Settings > General > Dictionary - that you have 'British
English' and also 'Apple Dictionary' selected 'ticked'.
 >> 
 >> Cheers,
 >> Ronni
 >> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 >> 
 >> 
 >>> On 15 Jul 2017, at 6:22 pm, Tim Law  wrote:
 >>> 
 >>> Hello, 
 >>> 
 >>> iPhone 6s
 >>> iOS 10.3.2
 >>> 
 >>> Language set to English Australian and dictionary set to British
English
 >>> 
 >>> When I'm writing emails and type a word like civilisation it
comes up as underlined and wants me to use civilization instead. Same
thing with Messages where it autocorrects to the incorrect spelling. 
 >>> 
 >>> How do I get the iPhone to follow the settings I've selected?
 >>> 
 >>> Thanks
 >>> 
 >>> Sent from Tim's iPhone
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[petercrisp]

Yes Stephen that is good advice, TM backup and CCC as well in
parallel so always able to recover from catastrophes should they
arise. It means one has to have stacks of backup memory space and as
Photos libraries get bigger and bigger with multiple family members it
requires one to think ahead when planning backup locations for each
machine and aggregate memory space etc. 

 

Pete.

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Subject:Re: iPhone photo's.

Hi again Tony.
Probably a good idea to download photos on the DLSR to Photos on the
Mac as well.Do that either by using the provided camera cable or by
plugging the SD Card into the SD port on your Mac.
Then you can be secure in knowing that they are backed up on your
Mac.Also means that your SD card in the DLSR is free for plenty more
photos (if you delete them from the DLSR also).Also if you have a
backup drive attached to your Mac (via Time Machine or SuperDuper) you
are properly backed up.

On 6 May 2017, at 3:07 pm, Anthony (Tony) Francis  wrote:
Thank you Stephen, I haven’t done this before as I normally take
photo’s with my DSLR and plug the Camera straight into the T V.
Tony
BODDINGTON
On 6 May 2017, at 2:17 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
Hi Tony.Plug iPhone into the Mac and transfer your photos to
Photos.This is a good idea anyway so that you have a backup of your
photos.
Then make sure iTunes is open on your Mac.Then when you use Apple TV
you can select Photos from the Apple TV menu.

On 6 May 2017, at 12:37 pm, Anthony (Tony) Francis  wrote:
Good afternoon fellow Wamuggers.
Would anyone know how to show my iPhone photo's on my Television?? I
have Apple TV and am thinking along the lines of showing the photo's
on the Computer as a slide show and through Apple TV showing them on
the TV.
Am I on the right track??
Thanks everyone, enjoy the weekend

Tony
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Re: Macbook Pro Certificates

[petercrisp]

 Great Ronni, thanks for you time in providing this review and
comprehensive feedback for James' benefit, but for me and others as
well I am sure.

 

Kind Regards

 

Pete.

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Subject:Re: Macbook Pro Certificates

 Hi Peter,
Thanks for sending the images of the results of the Malwarebytes scan
earlier this morning.I’ve had a thorough look at the images of the
scan and include my finding, comments and advice below.
I will also, as I mentioned in my reply to you offlist a short time
ago, email you a couple of documents for James to help him understand
how this happened and can be prevented. Malwarebytes Anti-Malware.app
is an excellent software program and can be used to check to see if
Malware is installed and most times can rid the Mac of the malicious
malware.
JAMES - MACBOOK PRO - MALWARE & ADWARE: _Malware_ Genieo - InstallMac
-  Spigot  - IronCore - Conduit - Jollywallet - OSX.VSearch -
Crossrider - PUP.Advanced Mac Cleaner , MegaBackup, OSX FakeFileOpener
& more.
‘Genieo’ (and ‘InstallMac’, another name for the same
software) is from InstallGenieo.A most prolific adware for years. It
has been in active distribution, with a very active Israeli company
behind it. Although the installer is available through the company’s
web site, it has also been seen numerous times being distributed
through installers that pretend to be something they are not, such as
fake Adobe Flash Player installers. This behaviour has been blamed on
third-party “partners” each time it has been observed.
It is highly recommended you download software direct from the vendors
site or from a source the vendor's site links to if hosted external to
their own site because of bandwidth.  In all cases don't rush through
the install and check what is being installed by choosing the 'custom'
option.
WHAT IS SPIGOT?  MALWARESpigot is a term used to describe potentially
unwanted applications developed by Spigot Inc. Adware created by this
company installs together with free software using a deceptive
software marketing method called ‘bundling’. Commonly, computer
users install such unwanted applications whilst downloading free
software. 
Today, most freeware download websites (_including_ CNET DOWNLOAD.COM
[1], SOFT32.COM [2], SOFTONIC.COM [3], ETC.) use deceptive ‘download
clients’, which manage the download process of free software –
these small programs are also used to monetise the free downloads by
offering installation of promoted browser plugins.
Usually unwanted software and malware finds it's way to a user's
computer from infected web links, flash drives or during an
installation of popular programs. Most types of malware are designed
to hijack browser search and inject ad popups and to install doorways
and other malicious software. 
_SOME MALWARE PROGRAMS CAN ALSO REVEAL YOUR SENSITIVE PRIVATE DATA TO
HACKERS AND RESULT IN ID THEFT, CREDIT CARD FRAUD._
James MacBook Pro Malware & Adware seems to have been eliminated by
James carefully following the cleanup process instructions given in
the Malwarebytes Scan result. James has run another Scan after
completely all the steps and all infections are resolved.
I feel we can now Close/Flag this thread as completed.
Cheers,Ronni
13-INCH MACBOOK AIR (APRIL 2014)
1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz8GB 1600MHz
LPDDR3 SDRAM
512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
macOS Sierra 10.12.4
  
On 5 May 2017, at 9:30 pm, Peter Crisp  wrote:
Ok thanks Ronnie, will arrange that in the morning.
Good luck for your Pies!

Regards

Pete
On 5 May 2017, at 8:53 PM, Ronda Brown  wrote:

Hi Peter,
I would like to see the results of the Malwarebytes scan please.If
James didn't keep a copy of the scan, you can email me the photos
offlist or transcribe what the 39 items were, I would appreciate it.
I can then comment if any further action is required. But, it sounds
like James has done everything as instructed which is very pleasing to
hear. 

Kind regards,RonniPS I've backed your Eagles to win tomorrow, I won
money on you last week & hope to tomorrow ;-) I haven't backed my Pies
to win :(
Sent from Ronni's iPad4

On 5 May 2017, at 8:28 pm, Peter Crisp  wrote:

Hi Ronnie, sorry for slow reply - working remotely to my son has
necessary lag. So yes he has now run the anti malware program. 39
items identified. I have these in photographs so could transcribe.
He has done the clean up too and re-run - it is all clean now.
Firewall is ON too. 
Given that this has been all done, is there any further action in this
space do you feel?
Regards
Pete..

On 1 May 2017, at 9:49 pm, Ronni Brown  wrote:
Hi Peter,
I mentioned previously for James to download and run _Malwarebytes
Anti-Malware for Mac  [8], _has this been done?
James had his Firewall turned OFF, so his Mac was open to incoming
connections from the outside world.With the Firewall ON it blocks
incoming connections, 

Re: Macbook Pro Certificates

[petercrisp]

 Thanks Brian, from what I understand the students access via the
first method (Servers + Internet). Maybe the higher years they get the
second access method ability. Will enquire when I am back from the
Pilbara.

 

Regards

 

Pete.

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To:
Cc:
Sent:Sat, 6 May 2017 07:01:32 +0800
Subject:Re: Macbook Pro Certificates

Hi Ronni and Pete
When students and teachers log onto a school wireless network there
are two methods. First with an id number and password - this gives
network access to servers and internet , second way -students are
allowed to by-pass this step and log into a student network with
minimum level of access-just internet, you are presented with a pop up
screen asking you to accept a department security certificate, it is
to do with the Education Department security log in protocol. So, the
pop up screen may be this in place, not anything malicious. Hope this
info helps. 
Brian 
On 5 May 2017, at 21:30, Peter Crisp  wrote:

Ok thanks Ronnie, will arrange that in the morning.
Good luck for your Pies!

Regards

Pete
On 5 May 2017, at 8:53 PM, Ronda Brown  wrote:

Hi Peter,
I would like to see the results of the Malwarebytes scan please.If
James didn't keep a copy of the scan, you can email me the photos
offlist or transcribe what the 39 items were, I would appreciate it.
I can then comment if any further action is required. But, it sounds
like James has done everything as instructed which is very pleasing to
hear. 

Kind regards,RonniPS I've backed your Eagles to win tomorrow, I won
money on you last week & hope to tomorrow ;-) I haven't backed my Pies
to win :(
Sent from Ronni's iPad4

On 5 May 2017, at 8:28 pm, Peter Crisp  wrote:

Hi Ronnie, sorry for slow reply - working remotely to my son has
necessary lag. So yes he has now run the anti malware program. 39
items identified. I have these in photographs so could transcribe.
He has done the clean up too and re-run - it is all clean now.
Firewall is ON too. 
Given that this has been all done, is there any further action in this
space do you feel?
Regards
Pete..

On 1 May 2017, at 9:49 pm, Ronni Brown  wrote:
Hi Peter,
I mentioned previously for James to download and run _Malwarebytes
Anti-Malware for Mac  [5], _has this been done?
James had his Firewall turned OFF, so his Mac was open to incoming
connections from the outside world.With the Firewall ON it blocks
incoming connections, and if you have “stealth mode” on in the
Firewall options basically makes your Mac invisible on an untrusted
network.
That “Certificate PopUp screen” still worries me… Someone or
some malicious software with administrator privileges, could have
made changes to the Network Settings to redirect all outgoing
connections through a proxy server which lets the attacker eavesdrop
on your communications.
First Run a Malwarebytes Anti-Malware for Mac scan and let us know the
results please.
Regards,Ronni

On 1 May 2017, at 5:23 pm, Peter Crisp  wrote:
Hi Ronnie et al, James’ MBP school network intranet/internet issue
is now resolved. The issue was relating to Proxies. James took his MBP
to the IT guys and they asked him “did you download any proxies”
to which he responded “not that I know of”. He may have done this
accidentally, he didn’t even know where the Proxy settings are
located within System Prefs when I quizzed him this afternoon so it
wasn’t by direct entry. Not sure how the Proxies came to become
misaligned, unlikely a result of the Sierra update but does anyone
know how this could have happened?
The IT guys said “we reset your network settings” and now it is
all good at school and still at home working fine too.
Regards
Pete.

On 29 Apr 2017, at 6:35 pm, Peter Crisp  wrote:
Hi Ronni, thanks for the details but I think it is safe to say James
has not gone down this path as he NEVER opens his emails. So for that
reason, it is highly unlikely. I will nonetheless get his confirmation
that he hasn't opened any emails and specifically one with a Zip
folder in it.
So if I am correct and it is a red herring the dokument.zip scenario,
what else could it be?
WCE have made a good start though a long way to go. 

Regards

Pete
On 29 Apr 2017, at 12:32 PM, Ronni Brown  wrote:

Hi Peter,
For James to have been infected by OSX.Dok. James would have needed to
install it! And he would have to go through quite a number of steps &
windows to install it. You have indicated that James is pretty
competent in these things, so lets hope you are correct. As this is a
new very nasty Malware and the malware is able to have continued
_root-level permission_ without continuing to request for an admin
password.---“OSX.Dok comes in the form of a file named DOKUMENT.ZIP,
which is found being emailed to victims in phishing emails. Victims
primarily are located in Europe.
Apple has already revoked the certificate used to sign the app, so, at
this point, anyone who encounters this malware will be unable 

Re: Late 2011 MBP

[petercrisp]

Thanks for this advice Robin, he has a 1TB drive which he uses
externally attached and I am encouraging James to keep non essential
data on the external drive (all of which is backed up of course) to
TM. Using this configuration, I am confident he can comfortably
operate with a 250GB SSD (just as I do with my 13" Retina). We are
certainly converging on the upgrade path over the replacement MBP
path.

 

Regards

 

Pete.

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To:"WAMUG Mailing WAMUG" 
Cc:
Sent:Mon, 1 May 2017 21:24:52 +0800
Subject:Re: Late 2011 MBP

 Peter,I run a 2011 MacBook Air with 4 GB RAM but it has a SSD and is
very good with Sierra and all its tasks.Change the HD to a SSD (and
update the RAM), it will make the MBP very fast and responsive. It
will be the best $250 you will have spent on a computer in years. You
should consider getting a 500GB SSD and not upgrading the RAM if the
cost gets too high.I’m guessing that a 2011 model may soon be
abandoned by Apple in a future Mac OS update, maybe 10.13 or hopefully
10.14.
robin
On 1 May 2017, at 6:11 pm, Peter Crisp  wrote:
HI there, my son James is finding his MBP is quite slow when doing
high demand activities, video and photo editing etc. He is also in Y11
and finds his MBP lags behind peers in a classroom environment but I
don’t think it is any or much slower than a late 2011 MBP would be
if it were straight out of the box today. His HDD is less than half
full, running Sierra 10.12.4 and 2.4GHz intel core i5 4GB ram with
500GB HDD. 
I am thinking there are two paths to take but financial impact will be
significant in deciding what to do. Either a later model MBP swap
which is faster than current item or an SSD/ram upgrade for his 2011
MBP. I've researched a bit and figure for ~$250 I can fit a 250GB SSD
and 2X4GB Ram cards and this will bring it to a good speed level I
think. But this will still leave it as a 2011 MBP.
Does anyone have any recommendation of what later model MBP I might
target that will give equivalent speed to my proposed upgraded 2011
MBP result?

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Re: Late 2011 MBP

[petercrisp]

 

Thanks for this advice Robin, he has a 1TB drive which he uses
externally attached and I am encouraging James to keep non essential
data on the external drive (all of which is backed up of course) to
TM. Using this configuration, I am confident he can comfortably
operate with a 250GB SSD (just as I do with my 13" Retina). We are
certainly converging on the upgrade path over the replacement MBP
path.

 

Regards

 

Pete.

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To:"WAMUG Mailing WAMUG" 
Cc:
Sent:Mon, 1 May 2017 21:24:52 +0800
Subject:Re: Late 2011 MBP

 Peter,I run a 2011 MacBook Air with 4 GB RAM but it has a SSD and is
very good with Sierra and all its tasks.Change the HD to a SSD (and
update the RAM), it will make the MBP very fast and responsive. It
will be the best $250 you will have spent on a computer in years. You
should consider getting a 500GB SSD and not upgrading the RAM if the
cost gets too high.I’m guessing that a 2011 model may soon be
abandoned by Apple in a future Mac OS update, maybe 10.13 or hopefully
10.14.
robin
On 1 May 2017, at 6:11 pm, Peter Crisp  wrote:
HI there, my son James is finding his MBP is quite slow when doing
high demand activities, video and photo editing etc. He is also in Y11
and finds his MBP lags behind peers in a classroom environment but I
don’t think it is any or much slower than a late 2011 MBP would be
if it were straight out of the box today. His HDD is less than half
full, running Sierra 10.12.4 and 2.4GHz intel core i5 4GB ram with
500GB HDD. 
I am thinking there are two paths to take but financial impact will be
significant in deciding what to do. Either a later model MBP swap
which is faster than current item or an SSD/ram upgrade for his 2011
MBP. I've researched a bit and figure for ~$250 I can fit a 250GB SSD
and 2X4GB Ram cards and this will bring it to a good speed level I
think. But this will still leave it as a 2011 MBP.
Does anyone have any recommendation of what later model MBP I might
target that will give equivalent speed to my proposed upgraded 2011
MBP result?

Peter crisppetercr...@westnet.com.au [2]

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Re: Macbook Pro Certificates

[petercrisp]

Thanks Robin, that is quite plausible what you've suggested there. I
sent an update email in yesterday to WAMUG indicating the Proxy
settings on his laptop were corrected and this in turn resolved the
problem for James, so there is no problem now in that context as was
originally raised in this thread. We will also as recommended by Ronni
run the Malwarebytes Antimalware program to be sure rather than not
know for sure. I've just thought now too that my other son Timothy
who has not yet updated his OSX (still running Yosemite I think) and
he has not reported any issues with his connection at school so the
proxy settings change _could_ have been a by-product of the Sierra
update.

 

Regards

 

Pete.

- Original Message -
From: wamug@wamug.org.au
To:"WAMUG Mailing WAMUG" 
Cc:
Sent:Sat, 29 Apr 2017 18:09:45 +0800
Subject:Re: Macbook Pro Certificates

 Pat, Ronni, While I don’t mean to trivialise the issue of malware
and the current, advanced state of infection abilities I think you
might have gone down the wrong rabbit hole here with the malware.
What more likely happened was James’ school is running a proxy
server which issues it’s own certificates to browsers and as he had
a new installation it may not have had this installed.If this is the
case then there is another issue with the proxy server settings on his
laptop.How to resolve it I don’t know but I would investigate it.
cheers,
robin

On 29 Apr 2017, at 12:32 pm, Ronni Brown  wrote:

Hi Peter,
For James to have been infected by OSX.Dok. James would have needed to
install it! And he would have to go through quite a number of steps &
windows to install it. You have indicated that James is pretty
competent in these things, so lets hope you are correct. As this is a
new very nasty Malware and the malware is able to have continued
_root-level permission_ without continuing to request for an admin
password.---“OSX.Dok comes in the form of a file named DOKUMENT.ZIP,
which is found being emailed to victims in phishing emails. Victims
primarily are located in Europe.
Apple has already revoked the certificate used to sign the app, so, at
this point, anyone who encounters this malware will be unable to open
the app and unable to be infected by it.
_IF THE USER CLICKS PAST THIS WARNING TO OPEN THE APP, IT WILL DISPLAY
A WARNING THAT THE FILE COULD NOT BE OPENED, WHICH IS SIMPLY A COVER
FOR THE FACT THAT NO DOCUMENT OPENED:_
Interestingly, this window cannot be dismissed, as the OK button does
not respond. Further, the app will remain stuck in this mode for quite
some time. If the user becomes suspicious at this point and attempts
to force quit the app, it will not show up in the Force Quit
Applications window and in Activity Monitor, it will appear as
“AppStore.”
If the user manages to force this “AppStore” app to quit, however,
all is not yet okay. The malware dropper will have copied itself onto
the /Users/Shared/ folder and added itself to the user’s login items
so it will re-open at the next login to continue the process of
infecting the machine.
After several minutes, the app will obscure the entire screen with a
fake update notification._“OS X UPDATES AVAILABLE - A SECURITY ISSUE
HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED IN A OS X SOFTWARE PRODUCT_ etc etc.”
_If James did continue to this stage his Mac is probably infected with
this Malware.___
_Malwarebytes Anti-Malware for Mac _ [2]_will detect the important
components of this malware as OSX.Dok, disabling the active infection.
However, when it comes to the other changes that are not easily
reversed, which introduce vulnerabilities and potential behavior
changes, additional measures will be needed. __For people who don’t
know their way around in the Terminal and the arcane corners of the
system, it would be wise to seek the assistance of an expert, or
__ERASE THE HARD DRIVE AND RESTORE THE SYSTEM FROM A BACKUP MADE PRIOR
TO INFECTION._
Please post back more information from James as to exactly what were
the details of the below “certificate pop up screen”? A what
happened after he click “Accept”  

"certificate pop up come up on screen" to which he pressed
AcceptI’m hoping it is not the malware and can be rectified without
an erase of the hard drive and restore the system from a previous
backup made prior to infection.

Cheers,Ronni
13-INCH MACBOOK AIR (APRIL 2014)
1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz8GB 1600MHz
LPDDR3 SDRAM
512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
macOS Sierra 10.12.4

On 29 Apr 2017, at 10:33 am, Pat  wrote:
There is a report in today’s online news about a new malware
targeting Macs calle OSX/Dok. The first symptom is a pop-up message
about a new OSX update. Don’t update! It is a trojan that can bypass
Gatekeeper. Apparently it is signed with a valid developer certificate
and attacks all kinds of Mac.
Pat

On 29 Apr 2017, at 08:57, petercr...@westnet.com.au [4] wrote:

My son's (James) MacBook Pro (~2011) has been updated to Sierra

Re: Macbook Pro Certificates

[petercrisp]

 Ok, thanks Ronni, will pass on this information to James.

 

Regards Pete.

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To:
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Sent:Sun, 30 Apr 2017 13:14:07 +0800
Subject:Re: Macbook Pro Certificates

Hi again Peter,
I just noticed your mentioned that on James MacBook Pro he has the
Firewall TURNED OFF?  why is this setting turned OFF?I would never
recommend the Firewall to be turned OFF!
He would be prompted to Deny or Allow access to specific apps when
they begin listening for outside connections, and OS X remembers your
choice (you can always change your mind later).You can customize your
Firewall settings in Security & Privacy > Firewall > Firewall Options.
Cheers,Ronni
Sent from Ronni's iPad4

On 30 Apr 2017, at 12:37 pm, Ronni Brown  wrote:

Hi Brian & Peter,
I agree with Brian that this issue is at the school’s end. The
“Show Certificate” but when James clicked does not show the
Certificate, indicates to me that the Certificate on the School’s
Intranet/Internet has been updated/changed or expired to the
certificate on James MacBook Pro that he accessed with before the
holiday period.I would not suspect it to be a Sierra issue.
I expect the problem will only be corrected by the school’s IT
Department.
Are other students experiencing similar issue as James? 

Regards,Ronni
13-INCH MACBOOK AIR (APRIL 2014)
1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz8GB 1600MHz
LPDDR3 SDRAM
512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
macOS Sierra 10.12.4
On 30 Apr 2017, at 11:12 am, Brian Risbey  wrote:
Hi Peter
Just as a thought, the Department of Ed is upgrading all school
wireless networks in preparation for online NAPLAN testing, they
missed the cutoff and 2017 is going to be paper.They are adding many
more wireless routers. Our school has had issues with iPads not
connecting to the wireless system all Term 1, ongoing. My MacBookPro
has occasional issues too. So, it could be school’s end with the
wireless network.The Department is also having major issues with
access to teacher email services via Safari and has suggest to use a
different application.
Just a bit of ‘insider’ knowledge/ experience.
Brian
On 30 Apr 2017, at 10:04, petercr...@westnet.com.au [3] wrote:

Ok, I can confirm there was no email opened at all - James does not
attend to his emails - so I am sure this malware (Dokument.zip) is
not the source of his problem. He also indicates there was no email
and no zip folder he has accessed and he is still unaware of an email
if indeed it is in his Inbox.

He has been provided credentials from the school (been in use for a
couple of years at least) and has been no problem auto connecting
until now (problem has arisen post these school holidays where we did
the update to Sierra 10.12.4 from El Capitan). He is able to see and
connect to the school WIFI network (modems dotted all around the
school whichever room he is in, he can connect) but unable to access
the internet (as he puts it). The VMware he uses for school material
is an internal site to the school (like _Intranet_) but he also is
unable to get to the proper _internet_ Google etc from the school
access point as he was previously able to. He is however able to get
to the school intranet site AND to the internet (Google etc) all from
the home WIFI without issue. 

His recollection of events are upon getting back to school for the
first time after the recent holiday period, opening up his MacBook, a
popup presented saying "Show certificate" which he pressed, no
certificate showed and no further entries by him and ever since no
intranet or internet connectivity possible.

On his MacBook, his Security>Firewall setting is OFF. 

WCE comfortably across the line though Dockers put up a bit of a
fight in second half. I hope you Pies do the proper business :) 

Regards 

Peter.

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To:
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Sent:Sat, 29 Apr 2017 19:30:22 +0800
Subject:Re: Macbook Pro Certificates

Hi Peter,
Need to know from James the exact details of what that "Certificate
Pop up  screen message" was and what happened after he clicked
"accept"Also details about the school's environment network WiFi
access.
Eagles 45 points lead at half time... just have to keep playing as
well in second half, not fade away like they have been lately in 3 &
4th quarter.Pies need a big win tomorrow :(
Cheers,Ronni
Sent from Ronni's iPad4

On 29 Apr 2017, at 6:35 pm, Peter Crisp  wrote:

Hi Ronni, thanks for the details but I think it is safe to say James
has not gone down this path as he NEVER opens his emails. So for that
reason, it is highly unlikely. I will nonetheless get his confirmation
that he hasn't opened any emails and specifically one with a Zip
folder in it.
So if I am correct and it is a red herring the dokument.zip scenario,
what else could it be?
WCE have made a good start though a long way to go. 

Regards

Pete
On 29 Apr 2017, at 12:32 PM, Ronni 

Re: Macbook Pro Certificates

[petercrisp]

Hi Brian, thanks for that bit of advice. I get the same feeling after
James came home from school (a private school so in-house IT) and
said "the guy just said you need an update - just go to the app store"
seemingly just fobbing him off saying "it's your problem" - this all
despite James saying "I have the latest update - there is nothing
later than 10.12.4". Notwithstanding that I have asked James to make
sure he fully shuts down at home before going to school next time,
so the next start up is a start up within the school WIFI zone (not a
carry over of the house WIFI he will have just left from). That alone
may resolve this though unlikely. 

 

Regards

 

Pete.

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Sent:Sun, 30 Apr 2017 13:01:26 +0800
Subject:Re: Macbook Pro Certificates

 Hi Peter and Ronni
After 25 years or more of using Apple products in a school
environment, it is pretty safe to say that the Department of Ed. is
still in denial about even the existence of non-Windows operating
systems and there is very, very little support for other formats,
their Techs barely tolerate or support them at any level.Possible
solution.I have been told to completely shut down Apple products, of
any type, when entering a school wireless network zone and then upon
restart, connection issues might sort themselves out. I tend to leave
my MacBook on for weeks and just put it to sleep, this can cause
network issues apparently, according to our ‘tame' apple friendly
Tech.Also, if too many reconnection attempts are made, Apple
apparently is very persistent/notorious according to our ‘tame'
apple friendly Tech, the servers don’t like this, you will be locked
out and need your access privileges re-instated/ reset at a school
level. 
Brian

On 30 Apr 2017, at 12:37, Ronni Brown  wrote:
Hi Brian & Peter,
I agree with Brian that this issue is at the school’s end. The
“Show Certificate” but when James clicked does not show the
Certificate, indicates to me that the Certificate on the School’s
Intranet/Internet has been updated/changed or expired to the
certificate on James MacBook Pro that he accessed with before the
holiday period.I would not suspect it to be a Sierra issue.
I expect the problem will only be corrected by the school’s IT
Department.
Are other students experiencing similar issue as James? 

Regards,Ronni
13-INCH MACBOOK AIR (APRIL 2014)
1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz8GB 1600MHz
LPDDR3 SDRAM
512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
macOS Sierra 10.12.4
On 30 Apr 2017, at 11:12 am, Brian Risbey  wrote:
Hi Peter
Just as a thought, the Department of Ed is upgrading all school
wireless networks in preparation for online NAPLAN testing, they
missed the cutoff and 2017 is going to be paper.They are adding many
more wireless routers. Our school has had issues with iPads not
connecting to the wireless system all Term 1, ongoing. My MacBookPro
has occasional issues too. So, it could be school’s end with the
wireless network.The Department is also having major issues with
access to teacher email services via Safari and has suggest to use a
different application.
Just a bit of ‘insider’ knowledge/ experience.
Brian
On 30 Apr 2017, at 10:04, petercr...@westnet.com.au [3] wrote:

Ok, I can confirm there was no email opened at all - James does not
attend to his emails - so I am sure this malware (Dokument.zip) is
not the source of his problem. He also indicates there was no email
and no zip folder he has accessed and he is still unaware of an email
if indeed it is in his Inbox.

He has been provided credentials from the school (been in use for a
couple of years at least) and has been no problem auto connecting
until now (problem has arisen post these school holidays where we did
the update to Sierra 10.12.4 from El Capitan). He is able to see and
connect to the school WIFI network (modems dotted all around the
school whichever room he is in, he can connect) but unable to access
the internet (as he puts it). The VMware he uses for school material
is an internal site to the school (like _Intranet_) but he also is
unable to get to the proper _internet_ Google etc from the school
access point as he was previously able to. He is however able to get
to the school intranet site AND to the internet (Google etc) all from
the home WIFI without issue. 

His recollection of events are upon getting back to school for the
first time after the recent holiday period, opening up his MacBook, a
popup presented saying "Show certificate" which he pressed, no
certificate showed and no further entries by him and ever since no
intranet or internet connectivity possible.

On his MacBook, his Security>Firewall setting is OFF. 

WCE comfortably across the line though Dockers put up a bit of a
fight in second half. I hope you Pies do the proper business :) 

Regards 

Peter.

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Re: Macbook Pro Certificates

[petercrisp]

 Thanks Ronnie and Brian for your respective feedback. I agree that
the school IT has something to respond to here. Will ask James if
there are any others experiencing this and what OSX they're running.

 

Regards

 

Peter.

- Original Message -
From: wamug@wamug.org.au
To:"WAMUG" 
Cc:
Sent:Sun, 30 Apr 2017 12:37:37 +0800
Subject:Re: Macbook Pro Certificates

 Hi Brian & Peter,
I agree with Brian that this issue is at the school’s end. The
“Show Certificate” but when James clicked does not show the
Certificate, indicates to me that the Certificate on the School’s
Intranet/Internet has been updated/changed or expired to the
certificate on James MacBook Pro that he accessed with before the
holiday period.I would not suspect it to be a Sierra issue.
I expect the problem will only be corrected by the school’s IT
Department.
Are other students experiencing similar issue as James? 

Regards,Ronni
13-INCH MACBOOK AIR (APRIL 2014)
1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz8GB 1600MHz
LPDDR3 SDRAM
512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
macOS Sierra 10.12.4
On 30 Apr 2017, at 11:12 am, Brian Risbey  wrote:
Hi Peter
Just as a thought, the Department of Ed is upgrading all school
wireless networks in preparation for online NAPLAN testing, they
missed the cutoff and 2017 is going to be paper.They are adding many
more wireless routers. Our school has had issues with iPads not
connecting to the wireless system all Term 1, ongoing. My MacBookPro
has occasional issues too. So, it could be school’s end with the
wireless network.The Department is also having major issues with
access to teacher email services via Safari and has suggest to use a
different application.
Just a bit of ‘insider’ knowledge/ experience.
Brian
On 30 Apr 2017, at 10:04, petercr...@westnet.com.au [2] wrote:

Ok, I can confirm there was no email opened at all - James does not
attend to his emails - so I am sure this malware (Dokument.zip) is
not the source of his problem. He also indicates there was no email
and no zip folder he has accessed and he is still unaware of an email
if indeed it is in his Inbox.

He has been provided credentials from the school (been in use for a
couple of years at least) and has been no problem auto connecting
until now (problem has arisen post these school holidays where we did
the update to Sierra 10.12.4 from El Capitan). He is able to see and
connect to the school WIFI network (modems dotted all around the
school whichever room he is in, he can connect) but unable to access
the internet (as he puts it). The VMware he uses for school material
is an internal site to the school (like _Intranet_) but he also is
unable to get to the proper _internet_ Google etc from the school
access point as he was previously able to. He is however able to get
to the school intranet site AND to the internet (Google etc) all from
the home WIFI without issue. 

His recollection of events are upon getting back to school for the
first time after the recent holiday period, opening up his MacBook, a
popup presented saying "Show certificate" which he pressed, no
certificate showed and no further entries by him and ever since no
intranet or internet connectivity possible.

On his MacBook, his Security>Firewall setting is OFF. 

WCE comfortably across the line though Dockers put up a bit of a
fight in second half. I hope you Pies do the proper business :) 

Regards 

Peter.

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To:
Cc:
Sent:Sat, 29 Apr 2017 19:30:22 +0800
Subject:Re: Macbook Pro Certificates

Hi Peter,
Need to know from James the exact details of what that "Certificate
Pop up  screen message" was and what happened after he clicked
"accept"Also details about the school's environment network WiFi
access.
Eagles 45 points lead at half time... just have to keep playing as
well in second half, not fade away like they have been lately in 3 &
4th quarter.Pies need a big win tomorrow :(
Cheers,Ronni
Sent from Ronni's iPad4

On 29 Apr 2017, at 6:35 pm, Peter Crisp  wrote:

Hi Ronni, thanks for the details but I think it is safe to say James
has not gone down this path as he NEVER opens his emails. So for that
reason, it is highly unlikely. I will nonetheless get his confirmation
that he hasn't opened any emails and specifically one with a Zip
folder in it.
So if I am correct and it is a red herring the dokument.zip scenario,
what else could it be?
WCE have made a good start though a long way to go. 

Regards

Pete
On 29 Apr 2017, at 12:32 PM, Ronni Brown  wrote:

Hi Peter,
For James to have been infected by OSX.Dok. James would have needed to
install it! And he would have to go through quite a number of steps &
windows to install it. You have indicated that James is pretty
competent in these things, so lets hope you are correct. As this is a
new very nasty Malware and the malware is able to have continued
_root-level permission_ 

Re: Macbook Pro Certificates

[petercrisp]

Ok, I can confirm there was no email opened at all - James does not
attend to his emails - so I am sure this malware (Dokument.zip) is
not the source of his problem. He also indicates there was no email
and no zip folder he has accessed and he is still unaware of an email
if indeed it is in his Inbox.

He has been provided credentials from the school (been in use for a
couple of years at least) and has been no problem auto connecting
until now (problem has arisen post these school holidays where we did
the update to Sierra 10.12.4 from El Capitan). He is able to see and
connect to the school WIFI network (modems dotted all around the
school whichever room he is in, he can connect) but unable to access
the internet (as he puts it). The VMware he uses for school material
is an internal site to the school (like _Intranet_) but he also is
unable to get to the proper _internet_ Google etc from the school
access point as he was previously able to. He is however able to get
to the school intranet site AND to the internet (Google etc) all from
the home WIFI without issue. 

His recollection of events are upon getting back to school for the
first time after the recent holiday period, opening up his MacBook, a
popup presented saying "Show certificate" which he pressed, no
certificate showed and no further entries by him and ever since no
intranet or internet connectivity possible.

On his MacBook, his Security>Firewall setting is OFF. 

WCE comfortably across the line though Dockers put up a bit of a
fight in second half. I hope you Pies do the proper business :)

 

Regards

 

Peter.

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From: wamug@wamug.org.au
To:
Cc:
Sent:Sat, 29 Apr 2017 19:30:22 +0800
Subject:Re: Macbook Pro Certificates

Hi Peter,
Need to know from James the exact details of what that "Certificate
Pop up  screen message" was and what happened after he clicked
"accept"Also details about the school's environment network WiFi
access.
Eagles 45 points lead at half time... just have to keep playing as
well in second half, not fade away like they have been lately in 3 &
4th quarter.Pies need a big win tomorrow :(
Cheers,Ronni
Sent from Ronni's iPad4

On 29 Apr 2017, at 6:35 pm, Peter Crisp  wrote:

Hi Ronni, thanks for the details but I think it is safe to say James
has not gone down this path as he NEVER opens his emails. So for that
reason, it is highly unlikely. I will nonetheless get his confirmation
that he hasn't opened any emails and specifically one with a Zip
folder in it.
So if I am correct and it is a red herring the dokument.zip scenario,
what else could it be?
WCE have made a good start though a long way to go. 

Regards

Pete
On 29 Apr 2017, at 12:32 PM, Ronni Brown  wrote:

Hi Peter,
For James to have been infected by OSX.Dok. James would have needed to
install it! And he would have to go through quite a number of steps &
windows to install it. You have indicated that James is pretty
competent in these things, so lets hope you are correct. As this is a
new very nasty Malware and the malware is able to have continued
_root-level permission_ without continuing to request for an admin
password.---“OSX.Dok comes in the form of a file named DOKUMENT.ZIP,
which is found being emailed to victims in phishing emails. Victims
primarily are located in Europe.
Apple has already revoked the certificate used to sign the app, so, at
this point, anyone who encounters this malware will be unable to open
the app and unable to be infected by it.
_IF THE USER CLICKS PAST THIS WARNING TO OPEN THE APP, IT WILL DISPLAY
A WARNING THAT THE FILE COULD NOT BE OPENED, WHICH IS SIMPLY A COVER
FOR THE FACT THAT NO DOCUMENT OPENED:_
Interestingly, this window cannot be dismissed, as the OK button does
not respond. Further, the app will remain stuck in this mode for quite
some time. If the user becomes suspicious at this point and attempts
to force quit the app, it will not show up in the Force Quit
Applications window and in Activity Monitor, it will appear as
“AppStore.”
If the user manages to force this “AppStore” app to quit, however,
all is not yet okay. The malware dropper will have copied itself onto
the /Users/Shared/ folder and added itself to the user’s login items
so it will re-open at the next login to continue the process of
infecting the machine.
After several minutes, the app will obscure the entire screen with a
fake update notification._“OS X UPDATES AVAILABLE - A SECURITY ISSUE
HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED IN A OS X SOFTWARE PRODUCT_ etc etc.”
_If James did continue to this stage his Mac is probably infected with
this Malware.___
_Malwarebytes Anti-Malware for Mac _ [3]_will detect the important
components of this malware as OSX.Dok, disabling the active infection.
However, when it comes to the other changes that are not easily
reversed, which introduce vulnerabilities and potential behavior
changes, additional measures will be needed. __For people who 

Re: Macbook Pro Certificates

[petercrisp]

 Thanks for this Pat.

Regards

Pete.

- Original Message -
From: wamug@wamug.org.au
To:
Cc:
Sent:Sat, 29 Apr 2017 10:33:37 +0800
Subject:Re: Macbook Pro Certificates

There is a report in today’s online news about a new malware
targeting Macs calle OSX/Dok. The first symptom is a pop-up message
about a new OSX update. Don’t update! It is a trojan that can bypass
Gatekeeper. Apparently it is signed with a valid developer certificate
and attacks all kinds of Mac.
Pat

On 29 Apr 2017, at 08:57, petercr...@westnet.com.au [1] wrote:

My son's (James) MacBook Pro (~2011) has been updated to Sierra
10.12.4 since he went on school holidays. He went back to school this
week and was unable to gain access into the school IT environment
using the school wifi. He had previously had no problem at last time
in school when running El Capitan. He called me this morning as I am
FIFO at the moment in sunny Hedland and using Facetime we proved a few
things. He was able to access the school IT environment by using the
home WIFI network without a hitch. This problem therefore arises when
he is at school in the school wifi environs. 

He indicated to me when first attempting to connect to the school
environment via the installed VMware he had a "certificate pop up
come up on screen" to which he pressed Accept. My suspicion is that
has something to do with his access problem though may be a Sierra
related issue potentially. He took it to his school IT team on Friday
who said "you need to go to the App store and do an update". He told
them he is at the latest OSX 10.12.4, there is no further update - I
think they're fobbing him off and copping out because they don't
actually know the problem and solution. But neither do I, however I
admit to it. James is pretty competent in these things but we're both
stumped right now. 

Any clues by anyone on similar issues? 

Regards 

Pete.

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[petercrisp]

My son's (James) MacBook Pro (~2011) has been updated to Sierra
10.12.4 since he went on school holidays. He went back to school this
week and was unable to gain access into the school IT environment
using the school wifi. He had previously had no problem at last time
in school when running El Capitan. He called me this morning as I am
FIFO at the moment in sunny Hedland and using Facetime we proved a few
things. He was able to access the school IT environment by using the
home WIFI network without a hitch. This problem therefore arises when
he is at school in the school wifi environs. 

He indicated to me when first attempting to connect to the school
environment via the installed VMware he had a "certificate pop up
come up on screen" to which he pressed Accept. My suspicion is that
has something to do with his access problem though may be a Sierra
related issue potentially. He took it to his school IT team on Friday
who said "you need to go to the App store and do an update". He told
them he is at the latest OSX 10.12.4, there is no further update - I
think they're fobbing him off and copping out because they don't
actually know the problem and solution. But neither do I, however I
admit to it. James is pretty competent in these things but we're both
stumped right now.

 

Any clues by anyone on similar issues?

 

Regards

 

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Photos - Import and delete

[petercrisp]

Hi, I have noticed a small thing with importing photos to my Photos
library on my MBP from my connected iPhone 6. On my family's MBP's -
they're presented with the option to tick the "Delete when Imported
from iPhone". I don't get this tick box showing. I am running the
previous to current OSX and so are they so I don't think it is an OSX
version related difference. 

 

Probably something simple I am not doing or setting in place.

 

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Re: Optical drive problem

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 Hi John, an external DVD drive is not that much $ when compared to
the Mac Mini purchase (starting at around $20) or up to high end
Apple DVD drive nearer $130. I know it is a pain to have another
device to have to sit alongside but not a complete show stopper to
upgrade. Something to consider.

 

Regards

 

Pete.

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Sent:Sun, 5 Feb 2017 07:34:35 +0800
Subject:Re: Optical drive problem

 Thanks to everyone for their contributions to this minor problem. I
don’t feel confident enough to tackle the replacement myself but
will study the instructions given and see what transpires.
Unfortunately, upgrading the Mac Mini to a new model will not do the
job as Apple, and many other computer makers, have dropped the optical
drive from their latest models. That would require the additional
purchase of an external DVD drive.

 Oh Woe Is Me !!!

 Regards

 John Thompson

 > On 4 Feb 2017, at 4:39 PM, David Noel  wrote:
 > 
 > Hi John --
 > 
 > -- I don't know whether there are any problems with attaching an
 > external DVD drive to the Mac Mini, but doing this with my iMac was
a
 > cheaper and quicker solution than going into the computer box. And
 > when I upgraded my iMac, I switched the DVD drive to the new model
 > without problems.
 > 
 > David
 > 
 > 
 > On 4 February 2017 at 15:48, Tim Law  wrote:
 >> John I had this problem to with my old Mac Mini and given I hardly
used it,
 >> and my daughter bought an external DVD drive which I could borrow
when I
 >> liked, I replaced the DVD with an SSD drive
 >> 
 >> The results were not satisfactory and I couldn't get it to load
consistently
 >> from the SSD, so I swapped it all back and run the SSD from an
external
 >> enclosure.
 >> 
 >> The point of this story for you is that now the DVD drive seems to
work
 >> again, so maybe the exercise in removing and replacing has jolted
it back to
 >> live, or a little twist here and there has resolved a dry joint.
Or maybe
 >> it's just put the wind up it so it's come to its senses and spring
back to
 >> life.
 >> 
 >> I assume it works now, I still never use it :-)
 >> 
 >> By the way, running the Mac Mini from the external DVD drive and a
USB port
 >> is WONDERFUL!!!
 >> 
 >> Regards
 >> Tim
 >> 
 >> Sent from Tim's iPhone
 >> 
 >> On 4 Feb 2017, at 1:00 pm, Ronda Brown  wrote:
 >> 
 >> Hi John,
 >> 
 >> Neil's link:
 >> Super-MultiDrive Upgrades – For all Mac mini models (G4 and
Intel Models
 >> 2006-2007)
 >> 
 >> NOTE: Not for Mac mini Early 2009 or later. For the Early 2009 or
later
 >> models a SATA 12.7mm drive is required.
 >> 
 >> Regards,
 >> Ronni
 >> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 >> 
 >> 
 >> On 4 Feb 2017, at 12:01 pm, Neil Houghton  wrote:
 >> 
 >> Hi John,
 >> 
 >> Well, I guess the obvious answer is replace the drive ;o)
 >> 
 >> 
 >> Lots of info, including "how to" videos, here:
 >> > 009_2010>
 >> 
 >> I've used these guys before for RAM and they were quick and
efficient.
 >> 
 >> The thing to do would be to watch the "how to" video relevant to
your
 >> particular model and see if it is the sort of procedure you would
be happy
 >> to do yourself.
 >> 
 >> If you are happy to do it yourself, it would be a relatively cheap
option.
 >> 
 >> Of course, if you are not comfortable with this sort of exercise
then you
 >> could go to a professional - I guess it depends how much you want
to spend
 >> on an 8 year old mac mini. I'm sure Daniel could give you some
advice here.
 >> 
 >> 
 >> I do understand your desire to keep the old machines going - I'm
still using
 >> my late 2009 core i7 27" iMac and it is a lovely machine :o)
 >> 
 >> 
 >> HTH
 >> 
 >> 
 >> 
 >> Cheers
 >> 
 >> 
 >> 
 >> Neil
 >> --
 >> Neil R. Houghton
 >> Albany, Western Australia
 >> Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
 >> Email: n...@possumology.com
 >> 
 >> 
 >> 
 >> 
 >> 
 >> 
 >> on 4/2/17 10:12, John Thompson at jetj...@optusnet.com.au wrote:
 >> 
 >> Hi,
 >> 
 >> My 2009 Mac Mini Optical drive has given up the ghost. It does
notappear to
 >> 
 >> be recognised by the computer or disk utility. Is there any fix?
 >> 
 >> 
 >> Regards
 >> 
 >> 
 >> John Thompson
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[petercrisp]

 Does this help?

 

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7405259?start=0=0 [1]

 

Pete

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 move an item from one library in Photos to another album?  So
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[petercrisp]

 Ok, Blitto, I should think that when the back up successfully
concludes it will refresh the TM panel to show the date of latest
backup. I don't think the "Last Backup" info is dynamic during a
backup on the main TM panel.

 

Regards

 

Pete.

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Subject:Re: SLOWWW Time Machine

 Interesting Peteta
Interesting to note that although TM says it hasn’t backed up since
late December, when I enter TM i can see files that were added to my
mac yesterday

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On 10 Jan 2017, at 8:59 am, petercr...@westnet.com.au [1] wrote:

You raise a good question Blitto, in my experience it is imperative
that Time Machine is left to it's own devices to conclude its
processes in it's own time when doing back ups. If you've deleted a
non related Back up file for the purposes of freeing up space for the
in-progress backup to have room to finish, that act may send the TM
into a spin. If the deletion of the non related back up file happened
after the commencement of the in progress back up, then TM may not
'recognise' the space is now available till after concluding the code
processes it is within and proceed to delete old files to clear the
space itself as it's programmed to do. I have yet to encounter a
situation where TM backup space is less than the size of a backup
starting or in progress so I am yet to see the behaviour of the TM
when this state is reached. I am told and have read that when TM gets
full, it makes it own space by deleting oldest information first. In
doing that old deletion to free the space, it may take extra ordinary
time to figure it out and complete. I am keen to read the input form
others on this. Don't know if Apple Help could help in this case
either. 

Regards 

Pete.

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Subject:SLOWWW Time Machine

 HiShall I just let it keep chugging away?MAY have unplugged the power
during a back-up a week ago
Time machine reported no back ups for a week or twoTold it to Back Up
Now yesterday12 hours later has backed up 1.4 GB of 8 GB and still
going
My Time Capsule is about 6yrs oldThe light is greenHad 14GB freeI have
just deleted the back-up file for my work laptop, now 239 GB free
taBlitto

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[petercrisp]

You raise a good question Blitto, in my experience it is imperative
that Time Machine is left to it's own devices to conclude its
processes in it's own time when doing back ups. If you've deleted a
non related Back up file for the purposes of freeing up space for the
in-progress backup to have room to finish, that act may send the TM
into a spin. If the deletion of the non related back up file happened
after the commencement of the in progress back up, then TM may not
'recognise' the space is now available till after concluding the code
processes it is within and proceed to delete old files to clear the
space itself as it's programmed to do. I have yet to encounter a
situation where TM backup space is less than the size of a backup
starting or in progress so I am yet to see the behaviour of the TM
when this state is reached. I am told and have read that when TM gets
full, it makes it own space by deleting oldest information first. In
doing that old deletion to free the space, it may take extra ordinary
time to figure it out and complete. I am keen to read the input form
others on this. Don't know if Apple Help could help in this case
either.

 

Regards

 

Pete.

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To:"WA Mac User Group Mac User Group" 
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Sent:Tue, 10 Jan 2017 06:38:06 +0800
Subject:SLOWWW Time Machine

 HiShall I just let it keep chugging away?MAY have unplugged the power
during a back-up a week ago
Time machine reported no back ups for a week or twoTold it to Back Up
Now yesterday12 hours later has backed up 1.4 GB of 8 GB and still
going
My Time Capsule is about 6yrs oldThe light is greenHad 14GB freeI have
just deleted the back-up file for my work laptop, now 239 GB free
taBlitto

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Family Sharing

[petercrisp]

Good morning, do any of you with numerous family members (and the
plethora of iOS and OSX devices necessarily present) utilise the
Family Sharing feature for cross sharing of Photos, music, app
purchases, etc? I still have our entire family and attendant 13
devices on ONE Apple ID and I am contemplating moving to the Family
Sharing environment.

 

Any experiences - positive or otherwise I am keen to hear of.

 

Kind Regards

 

Pete.


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Hi Blitto, in my experience (to the USA and also UK) taking a prepaid
SIM can be done but call/data costs are high compared to getting a
local provided SIM when you get there.

 

Regards

 

Pete.

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From: wamug@wamug.org.au
To:"WA Mac User Group Mac User Group" 
Cc:
Sent:Wed, 8 Jun 2016 06:31:10 +0800
Subject:iPhone SIM for Europe?

 Hi WAMUGersPlease - your advice appreciated SIM card for Europe 
 is this any good? https://www.prepaidzero.com [1] 
 ta blitto   

ROD BLITVICH  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
 GOOD IDEAS 
 0409 681 256  
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Re: All Contacts lost

[petercrisp]

I have come to use Photos without any issues. It is reliant upon
awareness of the migration process when upgrading from iPhoto to
Photos as if you get that wrong you can create a headache to rectify. 

 

Still, I had no issues with iPhoto so was not really aware of why
such a fundamental update was necessary - probably some things under
the hood were needed (maybe driven by iCloud requirements) and maybe
there are some things I can do now that I was not previously able to
do with iPhoto.

 

I think you can still use iPhoto but I haven't since migrating.

 

Pete 

- Original Message -
From: wamug@wamug.org.au
To:
Cc:
Sent:Fri, 3 Jun 2016 13:37:20 +0800
Subject:Re: All Contacts lost

 I would like iPhoto backphotos is a pile of.
 Kev  
 On 03/06/2016, at 12:51 PM, clamsh...@iinet.net.au [1] wrote: 
 Michael, I agree completely with what you write. I hated to do it,
but I decided to stick with Yosemite (and I wish I had stuck even
farther back.) Apple is really losing the plot. Maybe it’s just
change for change’s sake.
 Pat 

 On 2 Jun 2016, at 20:10, Michael Hawkins  wrote: 
  I don't want to use iCloud but Apple is getting more and more
insidiously insistent. I get pestered with messages about updates to
iOS but can't work out a safe way of finding out before I download and
install what the update will actually do. I feel as if the update has
already been downloaded - that's the inference I draw from messages
telling me the update is ready to install. iTunes has run rampant
through my music and CDs I had the right to copy onto my laptop seem
to have become subsumed into iTunes, as if they're on loan from Apple.
Memories, real or imagined, of Microsoft's practices in the late
nineties and early 2000's come to the fore

Sent from my iPhone  
On 2 Jun 2016, at 7:55 PM, Rod Blitvich  wrote:

  Blasphemy!  

ROD BLITVICH  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
 GOOD IDEAS 
 0409 681 256  
 rb...@iinet.net.au  

 On 2 Jun 2016, at 6:45 PM, Michael Hawkins  wrote: 
  Windows is starting to look strangely attractive

Sent from my iPhone  
On 2 Jun 2016, at 3:53 PM, Bill Parker  wrote:

  Getting worse!
 Now Contacts has “self restored”. 
 Bill
 On 2 Jun 2016, at 15:43, Bill Parker  wrote: 
 Ronni,
 This is weird.
 I have made a search for the App Support folder across 2 years  in
TIme Machine and Contacts and Address Book and neither are there where
you suggested. Then in the HD drive same thing  - neither Address
Book nor Contacts are there! 
  Bill
 On 2 Jun 2016, at 14:58, Ronni Brown  wrote: 
 Ok Bill,
 You said you have Time Machine Backups Quit all applications, or at
least - QUIT MAIL AND CONTACTS.  
  If you need to _RESTORE FROM TIME MACHINE BACKUP_: 
 This folder needs to be restored: 
 ~/Library/Application Support/AddressBook 
 Open the Library folder in your home folder by holding down the
OPTION key and selecting    GO ▹ LIBRARY from the
Finder menu bar.   Navigate in the usual way to the item indicated  
  ENTER TIME MACHINE  Then Go to ~/Library/Application
Support/AddressBook and Restore the ADDRESS BOOK content from a Time
Machine backup Copy the entire contents of the Address Book folder
from the backup and overwrite the contents of this folder on your
system drive. 
 Once the Restore is complete, Relaunch Contacts and you should see
your contacts listed. 
   Cheers, Ronni 
  13-INCH MACBOOK AIR (APRIL 2014)
1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz 8GB 1600MHz
LPDDR3 SDRAM
512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage  
El Capitan OS X 10.11.5 

   On 2 Jun 2016, at 2:41 PM, Bill Parker  wrote: 
Ronni,

 Thanks, 
 Did both.  There is nothing there either way except the one contact
I put in this am.   Also when typing email reciripient names, they
usually come up but that seems to be at fault as well ( several
regulars missing) 
 Bill
 On 2 Jun 2016, at 13:31, Ronda Brown  wrote: 
 Hi Bill, 
 I replied earlier to your message but my reply did not come through
to the list. Hence my message to test if the WAMUG mailing server was
down which did come to the list... But my original reply message has
not?? Go figure :) So I've copied my reply message to you below: --- 
 Hi Bill, 
 IF YOU ARE USING ICLOUD: 
 Make sure you are Signed In - System Preferences > iCloud and
Contacts is Selected. Deselected Contacts and then Reselected it. 
 IF YOU ARE NOT USING ICLOUD.  
 Go to System Preferences > Users and Groups > Your Admin Card > Click
Contacts Card: "Open Button”.  All cards previously in your Address
Book should recover.  
 Cheers, Ronni  
Sent from Ronni's iPad4 

On 2 Jun 2016, at 12:14 PM, Bill Parker  wrote:

  Hi Wamuggers,

I just had occasion to check an email address, it did not appear as I
typed the recipient’s details.  I went to Contacts and and found
nothing.  All my contacts gone.

I have Timemachine of course, but where would I look to find the
contacts entries.

?

Bill

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Re: All Contacts lost

[petercrisp]

I have come to use Photos without any issues. It is reliant upon
awareness of the migration process when upgrading from iPhoto to
Photos as if you get that wrong you can create a headache to rectify. 

 

Still, I had no issues with iPhoto so was not really aware of why
such a fundamental update was necessary - probably some things under
the hood were needed (maybe driven by iCloud requirements) and maybe
there are some things I can do now that I was not previously able to
do with iPhoto.

 

I think you can still use iPhoto but I haven't since migrating.

 

Pete

- Original Message -
From: wamug@wamug.org.au
To:
Cc:
Sent:Fri, 3 Jun 2016 13:37:20 +0800
Subject:Re: All Contacts lost

 I would like iPhoto backphotos is a pile of.
 Kev  
 On 03/06/2016, at 12:51 PM, clamsh...@iinet.net.au [1] wrote: 
 Michael, I agree completely with what you write. I hated to do it,
but I decided to stick with Yosemite (and I wish I had stuck even
farther back.) Apple is really losing the plot. Maybe it’s just
change for change’s sake.
 Pat 

 On 2 Jun 2016, at 20:10, Michael Hawkins  wrote: 
  I don't want to use iCloud but Apple is getting more and more
insidiously insistent. I get pestered with messages about updates to
iOS but can't work out a safe way of finding out before I download and
install what the update will actually do. I feel as if the update has
already been downloaded - that's the inference I draw from messages
telling me the update is ready to install. iTunes has run rampant
through my music and CDs I had the right to copy onto my laptop seem
to have become subsumed into iTunes, as if they're on loan from Apple
Memories, real or imagined, of Microsoft's practices in the late
nineties and early 2000's come to the fore

Sent from my iPhone  
On 2 Jun 2016, at 7:55 PM, Rod Blitvich  wrote:

  Blasphemy!  

ROD BLITVICH  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
 GOOD IDEAS 
 0409 681 256  
 rb...@iinet.net.au  

 On 2 Jun 2016, at 6:45 PM, Michael Hawkins  wrote: 
  Windows is starting to look strangely attractive

Sent from my iPhone  
On 2 Jun 2016, at 3:53 PM, Bill Parker  wrote:

  Getting worse!
 Now Contacts has “self restored”. 
 Bill
 On 2 Jun 2016, at 15:43, Bill Parker  wrote: 
 Ronni,
 This is weird.
 I have made a search for the App Support folder across 2 years  in
TIme Machine and Contacts and Address Book and neither are there where
you suggested. Then in the HD drive same thing  - neither Address
Book nor Contacts are there! 
  Bill
 On 2 Jun 2016, at 14:58, Ronni Brown  wrote: 
 Ok Bill,
 You said you have Time Machine Backups Quit all applications, or at
least - QUIT MAIL AND CONTACTS.  
  If you need to _RESTORE FROM TIME MACHINE BACKUP_: 
 This folder needs to be restored: 
 ~/Library/Application Support/AddressBook 
 Open the Library folder in your home folder by holding down the
OPTION key and selecting    GO ▹ LIBRARY from the
Finder menu bar.   Navigate in the usual way to the item indicated  
  ENTER TIME MACHINE  Then Go to ~/Library/Application
Support/AddressBook and Restore the ADDRESS BOOK content from a Time
Machine backup Copy the entire contents of the Address Book folder
from the backup and overwrite the contents of this folder on your
system drive. 
 Once the Restore is complete, Relaunch Contacts and you should see
your contacts listed. 
   Cheers, Ronni 
  13-INCH MACBOOK AIR (APRIL 2014)
1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz 8GB 1600MHz
LPDDR3 SDRAM
512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage  
El Capitan OS X 10.11.5 

   On 2 Jun 2016, at 2:41 PM, Bill Parker  wrote: 
Ronni,

 Thanks, 
 Did both.  There is nothing there either way except the one contact
I put in this am.   Also when typing email reciripient names, they
usually come up but that seems to be at fault as well ( several
regulars missing) 
 Bill
 On 2 Jun 2016, at 13:31, Ronda Brown  wrote: 
 Hi Bill, 
 I replied earlier to your message but my reply did not come through
to the list. Hence my message to test if the WAMUG mailing server was
down which did come to the list... But my original reply message has
not?? Go figure :) So I've copied my reply message to you below: --- 
 Hi Bill, 
 IF YOU ARE USING ICLOUD: 
 Make sure you are Signed In - System Preferences > iCloud and
Contacts is Selected. Deselected Contacts and then Reselected it. 
 IF YOU ARE NOT USING ICLOUD.  
 Go to System Preferences > Users and Groups > Your Admin Card > Click
Contacts Card: "Open Button”.  All cards previously in your Address
Book should recover.  
 Cheers, Ronni  
Sent from Ronni's iPad4 

On 2 Jun 2016, at 12:14 PM, Bill Parker  wrote:

  Hi Wamuggers,

I just had occasion to check an email address, it did not appear as I
typed the recipient’s details.  I went to Contacts and and found
nothing.  All my contacts gone.

I have Timemachine of course, but where would I look to find the
contacts entries.

?

Bill

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Re: Test - Is WAMUG mail Server down again?

[petercrisp]

Received Ronni.

Regards

 

Pete. 

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From: wamug@wamug.org.au
To:"WAMUG" 
Cc:
Sent:Thu, 02 Jun 2016 13:20:58 +0800
Subject:Test - Is WAMUG mail Server down again?

 Just testing if the WAMUG Mail server is down again?

 Sent from Ronni's iPad4

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[petercrisp]

Sorry for the duplication of this email, I sent a second time
thinking I had not sent it but the Mail fault appears to now be over
and it's purging all the stuff.

 

Regards

 

Pete. 

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From: wamug@wamug.org.au
To:"WAMUG" 
Cc:
Sent:Fri, 27 May 2016 21:34:50 +0800
Subject:Migrating a Slo-Mo from one MacBook to another MacBook

 Hi, I took a slo-mo video using my wifes iPhone and imported it to
'her' MacBook Photos library. All going fine. Then I wanted to get
that Slo-mo video into 'my' Photos library. This was along with aound
300 other photos and regular video files. 

 The process I used was to, Photos on her MacBook select the photos
(JPG) and videos and then Drag them to a empty desktop created folder.
Then memory stick copied the folder contents, then stick into my
MacBook USB and then Import to Photos. Everything about this worked
fine except the slo-mo video files have no longer got metdata that
flags them as "slo-mo" files - they are seen as regualr videos. When
they play back though, they play as a slo-mo without the editability
of the slo-mo functions as would be the case in the place of origin of
my wifes MacBook.

 There is probably a more elegant way of doing this AND also
preserving the 'slo-mo' metadata and hence easy tracking and locating
of them. 

 Has anyone done this or know a smarter way to do this?

 I thought I could place the slo-mo's into a Family folder and then
pull them into my MacBook from the Family folder, but I've not tried
this yet.

 Regards

 Pete
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Hi, I took a slo-mo video using my wifes iPhone and imported it to
'her' MacBook Photos library. All going fine. Then I wanted to get
that Slo-mo video into 'my' Photos library on 'my' Macbook. This was
along with aound 300 other photos and regular video files. 

 The process I used was to, Photos on her MacBook select the photos
(JPG) and videos and then Drag them to a empty desktop created folder.
Then memory stick copied the folder contents, then stick into my
MacBook USB and then Import to Photos. Everything about this worked
fine except the slo-mo video files have no longer got metdata that
flags them as "slo-mo" files - they are seen as regualr videos. When
they play back though, they play as a slo-mo without the editability
of the slo-mo functions as would be the case in the place of origin of
my wifes MacBook.

 There is probably a more elegant way of doing this AND also
preserving the 'slo-mo' metadata and hence easy tracking and locating
of them. 

 Has anyone done this or know a smarter way to do this?

 I thought I could place the slo-mo's into a Family folder and then
pull them into my MacBook from the Family folder, but I've not tried
this yet.

 Regards

 Pete


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[petercrisp]

test received. 

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Subject:Test

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[petercrisp]

 
Thanks for that Ronni, it would be frustrating to find out they
"loose" your phone number and that is enough to put people off it. It
should be military precision as this is their core business managing
peoples affairs like this!

 

The jury is getting closer to a decision ...

 

Regards

 

Pete.

- Original Message -
From: wamug@wamug.org.au
To:"WAMUG" 
Cc:
Sent:Sat, 14 May 2016 10:43:54 +0800
Subject:Re: NBN providers

  Hi Peter, 
 I have been on NBN Fibre to the Premises (FTTP) with Westnet/iiNet
since April 2014.   NBN RESIDENTIAL 8 PLAN (100GB + 100GB) + 50/20MBPS
+ FIBRE PHONE)$74.95 + $19.95 = $94.90 mth. 
I chose Fibre Phone so I could keep my current landline phone number I
have had for “Ever” ;-)  
After the NBN guys  completed the laying of cable to my house and
installing of the NBN Fibre Wall Outlet, NBN Power Supply Unit & NTD
(Network Termination Device) in my house it was very quick and easy
for me to connect my equipment and get my Network connected and
activated. 
 _MY NBN FTTP SETUP:_  _Equipment_:  3TB Airport Time Capsule (4th
Generation) and Oricom eco5200 phone
_Connections_: 3TB Airport Time Capsule (4th Generation) connected via
Ethernet CAT-6 cable from Time Capsule WAN port to UNI-D 1 Port on NTD
(Network Termination Device), and my Oricom eco5200 Phone cable to
UNI-V 1 Port on NTD. 
 Checked my Dual-Band Network settings - Router Mode: DHCP and NAT
remained the same and checked all my Macs (3), iPad & iPhone
connected. Ran Speed tests and generally tested my Network
thoroughly… all worked well. 
 _WESTNET’S ACTIONS WERE:_  1. Wait to confirm the NBN service is
fully working 
 2. Cancel the ADSL service, and wait 2-3days for your ADSL codes to
drop off your phone line. NB We wont cancel the home phone (as we need
the number active to port it) 
 3. When the codes are dropped, we will then submit a request to
convert you home number into a VOIP number. Process takes 5-7 biz
days. 
 4. Then you will have the exact same number, as a VOIP number and no
one will know the difference. 
 Other than a mishap that caused Westnet to LOOSE  my phone number
(for a month or so) when they went to port it... Eventually my phone
number was located held in quarantine by Telstra… now that’s a
story in itself that I won’t bore you with!!! I haven’t
experienced any problems. I’m relatively pleased with the speeds
I’m downloading and uploading at - of course speed is never fast
enough for us ;-) Over my Airport Wi-Fi Network I achieve around these
speeds:  _DOWNLOAD SPEED 47.73MBPS - UPLOAD SPEED 19.20MBPS_ 
  Cheers, Ronni 
  13-INCH MACBOOK AIR (APRIL 2014)
1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz 8GB 1600MHz
LPDDR3 SDRAM
512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage  
El Capitan OS X 10.11.4 
On 13 May 2016, at 10:51 PM, Gordon Wragg  wrote:

  Hi Peter,
 My ADSL with Westnet was great, but the NBN is way better.  I am on
the 50/20 plan and no complaints.  Just remember that those speeds
will depend on other user activity. 
 Westnet advise of any down time well ahead and such times are often
during off peak anyway. 
 Very happy with Westnet and NBN. 
 Regards 
 Gordon   
On 13 May 2016 at 19:54, Peter Crisp  wrote:
Hi muggers, I have been with Westnet for many years with an ADSL
service and pretty bulletproof the whole time. Service has been good
when it has been called upon so can't complain really. Recently NBN is
installed in my street and is now available. I looked online and see
there are 119 potential providers I could use!

 Westnet/iiNet rate VERY poorly in online reviews of their NBN service
but this maybe skewed by disgruntled people which I'm sure exist with
all providers but I am seeking further feedback.

 Optus and Westnet both rate well and a bit dearer that Westnet.

 Anyone here got any first hand transition experience from ADSL to NBN
and provider experience?

 I'd rather not change my email address if I can help it too.

 Regards

 Pete

 

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Yes, it is certainly a viable option - to do nothing. "ADSL1 Plus" is
good enough for online streaming through Apple TV or Youtube so the
only real benefit to go NBN is if downloading large files quickly is
important to you.

 

Jury still out on this.

 

Regards

 

Pete. 

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To:
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Sent:Sat, 14 May 2016 08:53:17 +0800
Subject:Re: NBN providers

 If it ain't broke don't fix it
 I have always had great service from Westnet(iiNet) and will stick
with them when NBN makes it to Albany - if I last that long!
 Severin Crisp

 Sent from Sev & Jenny's iPhone

 > On 13 May 2016, at 7:54 PM, Peter Crisp  wrote:
 > 
 > Hi muggers, I have been with Westnet for many years with an ADSL
service and pretty bulletproof the whole time. Service has been good
when it has been called upon so can't complain really. Recently NBN is
installed in my street and is now available. I looked online and see
there are 119 potential providers I could use!
 > 
 > Westnet/iiNet rate VERY poorly in online reviews of their NBN
service but this maybe skewed by disgruntled people which I'm sure
exist with all providers but I am seeking further feedback.
 > 
 > Optus and Westnet both rate well and a bit dearer that Westnet. 
 > 
 > Anyone here got any first hand transition experience from ADSL to
NBN and provider experience?
 > 
 > I'd rather not change my email address if I can help it too.
 > 
 > Regards
 > 
 > 
 > Pete
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Thanks for that Susan, will review and consider. I am wary of quoted
speeds when they say "up to 25Mbps" and the "up to" bit I see as an
'out' for them when you don't actually experience the quoted speed. So
you have to up the ante and go to a faster plan. So the bargain
priced service you thought you were getting is eroded by having to up
spec to next level or two levels up. 

 

Regards

 

Pete. 

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To:
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Sent:Sat, 14 May 2016 07:31:57 +0800
Subject:Re: NBN providers

Peter, it may be worthwhile to check out Whirlpool as well.  
 We have Iinet NBN and didn't notice much change in speed from ADSL
plus until we switched to the 100/50 plan. We live in Vic Park and the
ADSL+ was very good indeed. We have FTTH, rather than FTTN, which may
be a factor of where you live. 
 Cheers, Susan

Sent from my iPad  
On 14 May 2016, at 6:38 AM, petercr...@westnet.com.au [1] wrote:

 Thanks for that Gordon, I knew there had to be some satisfied
Wetnet NBN subscribers out there. Will investigate their plans a
little further now. 

  

Regards 

  

Pete.

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To:
Cc:
Sent:Fri, 13 May 2016 22:51:35 +0800
Subject:Re: NBN providers

Hi Peter,
 My ADSL with Westnet was great, but the NBN is way better.  I am on
the 50/20 plan and no complaints.  Just remember that those speeds
will depend on other user activity. 
 Westnet advise of any down time well ahead and such times are often
during off peak anyway. 
 Very happy with Westnet and NBN. 
 Regards 
 Gordon   
On 13 May 2016 at 19:54, Peter Crisp  wrote:
Hi muggers, I have been with Westnet for many years with an ADSL
service and pretty bulletproof the whole time. Service has been good
when it has been called upon so can't complain really. Recently NBN is
installed in my street and is now available. I looked online and see
there are 119 potential providers I could use!

 Westnet/iiNet rate VERY poorly in online reviews of their NBN service
but this maybe skewed by disgruntled people which I'm sure exist with
all providers but I am seeking further feedback.

 Optus and Westnet both rate well and a bit dearer that Westnet.

 Anyone here got any first hand transition experience from ADSL to NBN
and provider experience?

 I'd rather not change my email address if I can help it too.

 Regards

 Pete
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 Thanks for that Gordon, I knew there had to be some satisfied
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little further now.

 

Regards

 

Pete.

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To:
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Sent:Fri, 13 May 2016 22:51:35 +0800
Subject:Re: NBN providers

Hi Peter,
 My ADSL with Westnet was great, but the NBN is way better.  I am on
the 50/20 plan and no complaints.  Just remember that those speeds
will depend on other user activity. 
 Westnet advise of any down time well ahead and such times are often
during off peak anyway. 
 Very happy with Westnet and NBN. 
 Regards 
 Gordon   
On 13 May 2016 at 19:54, Peter Crisp  wrote:
Hi muggers, I have been with Westnet for many years with an ADSL
service and pretty bulletproof the whole time. Service has been good
when it has been called upon so can't complain really. Recently NBN is
installed in my street and is now available. I looked online and see
there are 119 potential providers I could use!

 Westnet/iiNet rate VERY poorly in online reviews of their NBN service
but this maybe skewed by disgruntled people which I'm sure exist with
all providers but I am seeking further feedback.

 Optus and Westnet both rate well and a bit dearer that Westnet.

 Anyone here got any first hand transition experience from ADSL to NBN
and provider experience?

 I'd rather not change my email address if I can help it too.

 Regards

 Pete
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Re: Attaching JPG to an email as an icon not an inserted image

[petercrisp]

Thanks for that Peter and others responding on this one. A useful tip
you've provided there. I will give it a shot tonight.

 

Regards

 

Pete. 

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Sent:Tue, 19 Apr 2016 07:34:14 +0800
Subject:Re: Attaching JPG to an email as an icon not an inserted image

 On 18 Apr 2016, at 7:39 PM, Peter Crisp  wrote: 
 Evening, I am trying to attach two JPG files to an email and Mail
insists on attaching them as visible pictures into the email. The
recipient of my email says they always show as a picture in the email
and he is unable to save the images out of the email upon receipt 
 I see online there are JPG to ICO convertors. Is this really such as
cumbersome as it is seeming to me. Surely there is a Apple way of
doing this simply.  
 I’m sure this isn’t the first time one of us has had this issue. 
 Any tips please?

 Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au [2] 

 Windows email clients almost invariably expect to find attachments at
the very bottom of the message, because this is where they put them
themselves. If the attachment is put anywhere else it is regarded as
an inline image and ignored by the software as qualifying as an
attachment. If you can always remember to place your images at the
very bottom of your message, even below your .sig, the Windows
recipient software will find them; otherwise the images show up in the
document as images, can be be difficult or impossible to download,
depending on the email client software and/or the version of Windows. 
 Remember that email is a VERY old file format in computer terms. In
essence, the only thing the email system recognises is text. It knows
nothing about images at all. For this reason, all images and other
attachments are encode into text before being sent, and decoded by
the recipient. These days this process is almost instantaneous and
automatic, but I have been in the game long enough to remember when we
had to be conscious of these things, to the point where we had to
decide what encoding scheme we were going to use in order to ensure
compatibility with our intended recipient, and the rules were often
confusing. 
 BTW - please don’t look for a JPG to ICO converter. You’ll just
be wasting a lot of effort. If you really want the image to look like
an icon, simply right- (or control-) click on it and choose “View as
icon” from the contextual menu. Just be aware that when you do this
with an “inline” attachment, then move to the bottom your message,
it will revert to an image again, and you’ll have to do it again. It
won’t make any difference to your Windows recipient though - as long
as the attachment is at he bottom of your message.  
 Of course, none of this matters if you’re sending to a fellow Mac
user. Everything “just works”. 
 It’s difficult being a Mac user sometimes... 
  Peter Hinchliffe    Apwin Computer Services FileMaker Pro
Solutions Developer
Perth, Western Australia
Phone (618) 9332 6482    Mob 0403 046 948

Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.   


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Re: Phone "Recents" list synching between phones

[petercrisp]

 

Ronni et al interested people, I have pasted in below (the dotted
line) something from a user on the Apple Discussion thread. See the
line of text in BOLD below. I think I may have switched iCloud Drive
on either deliberately or inadvertently when I was setting up the
remote printing option for my wifes phone on the Brother iPrint app (a
non related activity). Whilst this solution to my problem is not
technically a solution but rather a 'work around' she doesn't
actually need iCloud Drive to be on for other uses I have
subsequently discovered Google Drive as a more user
friendly repository for cloud documents and hence remote printing to
my Brother printer.

The workaround is to go to Settings>iCloud>iCloud Drive and set to
OFF.

This has now solved the phone call history synching between us.

 

Regards Pete.

-

For us, 9.0.2 does NOT fix the issue with shared calling histories
between different iPhones.  We both have iPhone 6s's on iOS 9.0.2. 
I tried shutting off WiFi phone calls, disabling Handoff on her phone
(I need it on my phone) as well as ensuring her phone and devices
aren't selected for "Allow Calls on other devices".

WHAT WORKED FOR ME WAS TO DISABLE ICLOUD DRIVE ON MY WIFE'S IPHONE 6S
-- as suggested above (thanks, ifat) thankfully she doesn't use any
iCloud drive features.  I know this isn't optimal but it works for
our situation to preserve the features we need.

I realize people will say use different Apple ID's but the primary
reason we are sharing Apple IDs is to share the iCloud photo library:
that way pictures we both take end up in the same library.  We both
then have access to our 325 GB library with over 15 years of photos, a
huge benefit of a cloud shared photo library.  For us, Family Sharing
isn't really about sharing purchases.

If Apple would allow Family sharing to also share the iCloud Photo
Library that would solve this issue.  Ideally, Apple would allow
authorized family members to access the shared photo library
(configurable per device as I don't want all my little kid's photos
from their devices).  It would also require sharing the full storage
plan of the primary account holder (otherwise sharing a huge library
doesn't work), and this could be used to allow iCloud device backups
all to the same storage plan.

Until then, I hope Apple realizes many people share the Apple ID for
the photos and re-enable the sequestering of the call history to each
device.  It would make sense for call history to be sync'd among
devices selected in the "Allow Calls on other devices" preference.

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To:
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Sent:Sat, 26 Mar 2016 16:54:40 +0800
Subject:Re: Phone "Recents" list synching between phones

Go the Pies! Thanks Ronni will give that a try shortly. I am in sunny
Port Hedland 45C today!! Will endeavour to liaise with other half to
test this out. 

  

Regards 

  

Pete. 

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 From: wa...@wamugorg.au 
To:
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Sent:Sat, 26 Mar 2016 16:51:20 +0800
Subject:Re: Phone "Recents" list synching between phones

I'm trying to watch The Pies playing Sydney :( So only read your
Subject... 
 The underlying cause is the sharing of a single iCloud and/or Apple
ID.  
 I don't know if this will help:

* Open the Settings app on both iPhones, then choose “FaceTime”
* Toggle the switch for “iPhone Cellular Calls” to the OFF
position on both phones

I've got to get back to concentrating on The Pies.. they are having
trouble! 
 Cheers, Ronni  Sent from Ronni's iPad4 

On 26 Mar 2016, at 4:37 PM, petercr...@westnet.com.au [1] wrote:

Hi Ronni, see in my original posting I indicated I have already tried
that on both of our phones and it has not solved my issue. Others in
online reviews have also indicated that action as not being a solution
for this problem. 

  

Regards 

  

Pete.

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Sent:Sat, 26 Mar 2016 16:32:21 +0800
Subject:Re: Phone "Recents" list synching between phones

Hi Peter, 
 Go to Settings/General/Handoff & suggested Apps. Turn off Handoff  
 Cheers, Ronni

Sent from Ronni's iPad4 

On 26 Mar 2016, at 2:01 PM, petercr...@westnet.com.au [4] wrote:

About a week or ten days ago, I recognised that my recent phone call
listing was replicating to my wife's phone and hers to mine too. We
each know so it's not like the security or privacy is the concern.
However when she misses a call intended for her, it shows as a missed
call to me as well and so I end up calling back to someone I didn't
need to call back As I say this synching was occurring about a week
ago. I can't recall any particular updating activity that may have
caused it but it was AFTER recognising this I did the iOS update. That
update went fine but I still have this 

Re: Phone "Recents" list synching between phones

[petercrisp]

Go the Pies! Thanks Ronni will give that a try shortly. I am in sunny
Port Hedland 45C today!! Will endeavour to liaise with other half to
test this out.

 

Regards

 

Pete. 

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From: wamug@wamug.org.au
To:
Cc:
Sent:Sat, 26 Mar 2016 16:51:20 +0800
Subject:Re: Phone "Recents" list synching between phones

I'm trying to watch The Pies playing Sydney :( So only read your
Subject... 
 The underlying cause is the sharing of a single iCloud and/or Apple
ID.  
 I don't know if this will help:

* Open the Settings app on both iPhones, then choose “FaceTime”
* Toggle the switch for “iPhone Cellular Calls” to the OFF
position on both phones

I've got to get back to concentrating on The Pies... they are having
trouble! 
 Cheers, Ronni  Sent from Ronni's iPad4 

On 26 Mar 2016, at 4:37 PM, petercr...@westnet.com.au [1] wrote:

Hi Ronni, see in my original posting I indicated I have already tried
that on both of our phones and it has not solved my issue. Others in
online reviews have also indicated that action as not being a solution
for this problem. 

  

Regards 

  

Pete.

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 From: wamug@wamug.org.au [2]  
To:
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Sent:Sat, 26 Mar 2016 16:32:21 +0800
Subject:Re: Phone "Recents" list synching between phones

Hi Peter, 
 Go to Settings/General/Handoff & suggested Apps. Turn off Handoff.  
 Cheers, Ronni

Sent from Ronni's iPad4 

On 26 Mar 2016, at 2:01 PM, petercr...@westnet.com.au [4] wrote:

About a week or ten days ago, I recognised that my recent phone call
listing was replicating to my wife's phone and hers to mine too. We
each know so it's not like the security or privacy is the concern.
However when she misses a call intended for her, it shows as a missed
call to me as well and so I end up calling back to someone I didn't
need to call back As I say this synching was occurring about a week
ago. I can't recall any particular updating activity that may have
caused it but it was AFTER recognising this I did the iOS update. That
update went fine but I still have this phone call recent listing
synching. 

  

We each have the same AppleID and iCloud details and maybe it is one
or other of those causing this. 

  

I did some online reviews and saw some people also having the same
but not one had a definitive solution for it. Some suggested turning
off the "Hand-Off" function and it did nothing for me as noted by
others too. 

  

Is this something that anyone has a definitive fix for if they have
encountered the same thing going on? 

  

Regards 

  

Pete.

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Re: Phone "Recents" list synching between phones

[petercrisp]

Hi Ronni, see in my original posting I indicated I have already tried
that on both of our phones and it has not solved my issue. Others in
online reviews have also indicated that action as not being a solution
for this problem.

 

Regards

 

Pete.

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From: wamug@wamug.org.au
To:
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Sent:Sat, 26 Mar 2016 16:32:21 +0800
Subject:Re: Phone "Recents" list synching between phones

Hi Peter, 
 Go to Settings/General/Handoff & suggested Apps. Turn off Handoff.  
 Cheers, Ronni

Sent from Ronni's iPad4 

On 26 Mar 2016, at 2:01 PM, petercr...@westnet.com.au [1] wrote:

About a week or ten days ago, I recognised that my recent phone call
listing was replicating to my wife's phone and hers to mine too. We
each know so it's not like the security or privacy is the concern.
However when she misses a call intended for her, it shows as a missed
call to me as well and so I end up calling back to someone I didn't
need to call back. As I say this synching was occurring about a week
ago. I can't recall any particular updating activity that may have
caused it but it was AFTER recognising this I did the iOS update. That
update went fine but I still have this phone call recent listing
synching. 

  

We each have the same AppleID and iCloud details and maybe it is one
or other of those causing this. 

  

I did some online reviews and saw some people also having the same
but not one had a definitive solution for it. Some suggested turning
off the "Hand-Off" function and it did nothing for me as noted by
others too. 

  

Is this something that anyone has a definitive fix for if they have
encountered the same thing going on? 

  

Regards 

  

Pete.
  

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Re: Phone "Recents" list synching between phones

[petercrisp]

Thanks Stephen, yes I am aware of that issue and the solution as you
rightly point out does resolve that issue. Sadly the phone call recent
list synchronising is not resolved by that solution.

 

Regards

 

Pete. 

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From: wamug@wamug.org.au
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Sent:Sat, 26 Mar 2016 16:12:04 +0800
Subject:Re: Phone "Recents" list synching between phones

Hi Peter, I had a similar issue recently. Each time my wife texted
anyone who uses iMessage, her chat appeared in my texts. I went to
Settings/Send & Receive and then unchecked my phone number in the
list. I no longer get her chats on my phone. 
 Not exactly the same as your issue, but could be related. 

 On 26 Mar 2016, at 2:01 PM, petercr...@westnet.com.au [1] wrote: 

About a week or ten days ago, I recognised that my recent phone call
listing was replicating to my wife's phone and hers to mine too We
each know so it's not like the security or privacy is the concern
However when she misses a call intended for her, it shows as a missed
call to me as well and so I end up calling back to someone I didn't
need to call back. As I say this synching was occurring about a week
ago. I can't recall any particular updating activity that may have
caused it but it was AFTER recognising this I did the iOS update. That
update went fine but I still have this phone call recent listing
synching.  

We each have the same AppleID and iCloud details and maybe it is one
or other of those causing this.  

I did some online reviews and saw some people also having the same
but not one had a definitive solution for it. Some suggested turning
off the "Hand-Off" function and it did nothing for me as noted by
others too.  

Is this something that anyone has a definitive fix for if they have
encountered the same thing going on?  

Regards  

Pete.

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[petercrisp]

About a week or ten days ago, I recognised that my recent phone call
listing was replicating to my wife's phone and hers to mine too. We
each know so it's not like the security or privacy is the concern.
However when she misses a call intended for her, it shows as a missed
call to me as well and so I end up calling back to someone I didn't
need to call back. As I say this synching was occurring about a week
ago. I can't recall any particular updating activity that may have
caused it but it was AFTER recognising this I did the iOS update. That
update went fine but I still have this phone call recent listing
synching.

 

We each have the same AppleID and iCloud details and maybe it is one
or other of those causing this.

 

I did some online reviews and saw some people also having the same
but not one had a definitive solution for it. Some suggested turning
off the "Hand-Off" function and it did nothing for me as noted by
others too.

 

Is this something that anyone has a definitive fix for if they have
encountered the same thing going on?

 

Regards

 

Pete.


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Re: Cloud Printing from iOS devices

[petercrisp]

Thanks Ronni, it would seem that in the absence of a 6S or 6S Plus
(I have an inherited 5S)  there is no way to make a PDF of an email
_on an iOS device_. I've looked at the features of 3 or 4 of the App
Store PDF creators and not one of them explicitly states the ability
to make a PDF of an email is one of it's built in features. Perhaps
there is one that does it. I will leave it there for now. Thanks for
feedback as usual.

 

Kind Regards

Pete.

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Sent:Fri, 25 Mar 2016 12:46:39 +0800
Subject:Re: Cloud Printing from iOS devices

Hi Peter, 
 On 24 Mar 2016, at 6:59 PM, Peter Crisp  wrote: 
  Thanks Ronni, yes that would probably work but how do I “Export as
PDF” a Mail message on an iOS device?

 If you have a iPhone 6S or 6S Plus you can using its 3D Touch! 
 "The process of creating a PDF from, say, a webpage and then having
it exported to an email client is something that could come
in useful for a lot of us, and it’s something we would use many
more times than we care to admit. We’re guessing creating PDFs on
iOS is something you might have fought with in the past too, so
here’s a quick rundown of how you can do just that and without any
third-party apps required.  
 The only limitation? You’ll need one of Apple’s iPhone 6s or
iPhone 6s Plus smartphones in order for it to work.” Read more
here:  How To Export As PDF On iOS Using 3D Touch   
 I wish Apple had never decided to pull the 'Print to PDF’ app that
Steve Jobs announced back in 2011 from the App Store :(   
When Apple introduced AirPrint to iOS, they made it incredibly easy
to send files right from your iPhone, iPod touch, and iPad to any
compatible Wi-Fi printer in the vicinity.  Unfortunately, what Apple
didn't do was bring 'Print to PDF' (Export as PDF) along for the
ride. 
 There are 'Print to PDF' apps in the App Store that offer some form
of the same, but I’ve never found one as good as the original
‘Print to PDF’ - which was an app that runs a virtual print server
on your iPad or iPhone. Any time you choose to print, in any app that
can send documents to AirPrint, you can instead pick 'Print to PDF' as
a destination. 
 Cheers, Ronni  

 Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au [4] 

 On 24 Mar 2016, at 12:01 PM, Ronda Brown  wrote: 
  Hi Peter, 
  The one thing I cannot still do is print an email when I'm off the
wifi network.”  
 I must be missing the point here… You mentioned you can print PDFs
remotely, so why not ‘Export as PDF' a mail message you wish to
print?

Cheers, Ronni  
Sent from Ronni's iPad4 

On 23 Mar 2016, at 6:15 AM, Peter Crisp  wrote:

  Thanks for this Ronni, I think I can get all of the 'object type'
items (eg a PDF, JPG, Doc, XLS etc) printed either locally (on the
WiFI network the printer is on) or remotely.  
 The one thing I cannot still do is print an email when I'm off the
wifi network. When I am on the WiFi network, it is easy, the device
simply recognises the Airprinters in vicinity and it locates the
Brother printer. But when off WiFi network, the AirPrint option
doesn't work as it is unable to 'find' the printer, as expected. There
appears to be no alternate way to remote print an _email body._  
 The Brother documentation is silent specifically on email printing
but plenty of information on printing attached items or standalone
objects (PDF, JPG, DOC, etc).  
Regards

 Pete   
On 20 Mar 2016, at 11:57 AM, Ronda Brown  wrote:

  Hi Peter,

You might find some helpful information here:
Brother MFC-9335CDW MF Laser Printer
Brother iPrint app, AirPrint, Google Cloud PrintTM & Wi-Fi
DirectTM,NFC Web Connect Print from and scan to DropBox, Evernote®,
Facebook, Flickr®, Google DriveTM, PicasaTM & SkyDrive® 

Sent from Ronni's iPad4

 On 19 Mar 2016, at 1:55 PM, Peter Crisp  wrote:

  HIi there, I have recently bought myself a Brother printer an
MFC-9335CDW and it is a Laser Multifunction. Brother have a good app
"iPrint and Scan" and within that is the ability to print documents,
photos etc remotely. Whilst I struggle a little particularly with
iCloud, I am able to fumble my way through getting documents up into
Google drive and then via the app can print attachments remotely to
the printer that I manage to save into Google drive. 

  My main question is if I simply want to print an email body (not
with any attachments) from a location away from the WiFi network the
printer is located on (and hence not an 'airprint' print job), there
doesn't seem to be a way to do that. I think I understand that to
print remotely, I have to get the object I'm trying to print into the
Cloud (either iCloud Drive, Google Drive, Dropbox) somewhere and then
tell the app to print that object from the cloud service wherever I
placed it. 

  Has anyone else experienced and resolved this conundrum?

  Regards

 Pete 

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Re: Contacts

[petercrisp]

This may help.

 

https://discussions.applecom/thread/6007355?tstart=0 [1]

 

Regards

 

Pete. 

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Sent:Sat, 16 Jan 2016 13:19:29 +0800
Subject:Contacts

Hello AllDoes anyone know how to convert a contacts list to Excel or
word file. Regards Bill  

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Re: Relinking music wrongly mapped in iTunes

[petercrisp]

Thanks Ronni and Neil. I had a look at Doug's site full of script
files. It's a great site for those with iTunes libraries and folders
needing some attention. I might even buy the duplicate remover, I am
sure I have many GB of duplication even though I have stacks of
capacity on the drive, I prefer if it were in order and not haphazard
like a teenagers bedroom!

 

It will take me some time to get it in order, thanks for the lead
Neil and Ronni.

 

Regards

 

Pete.

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From: wamug@wamug.org.au
To:"WAMUG" 
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Sent:Fri, 18 Dec 2015 08:31:12 +0800
Subject:Re: Relinking music wrongly mapped in iTunes

 Hi Peter,
 List MIAs v4.3 
   OS X 10.8 and later only. This applet checks your entire iTunes
library for missing and presumed dead tracks--those tracks that iTunes
is unable to associate with a file and which are listed in iTunes with
a "!"--and can create a text file listing these tracks by last known
File Path (if available), Song Name, Artist and Album, which you can
view using TextEdit Also see Music Folder Files Not Added [1]  To
find and delete dead tracks see Super Remove Dead Tracks [2].   
 Cheers, Ronni  

 On 18 Dec 2015, at 8:20 AM, petercr...@westnet.com.au [4] wrote: 

Hi Peter, yes I was aware of the file eligibility requirement by
iTunes. Simply placing an appropriate file type there via back-end
means does not imply it becomes linked automatically. But I am puzzled
the folder ("Fleetwood Mac-1") in my example below is an iTunes
renamed folder arising  from a previous "organising event" by iTunes
itself - how did it become unlinked? I will review the scripts that
Neil provided links to already.  

Regards  

Pete.

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Sent:Fri, 18 Dec 2015 07:22:37 +0800
Subject:Re: Relinking music wrongly mapped in iTunes

  On 17 Dec 2015, at 8:06 PM, Peter Crisp  wrote: 
  Hi Ronni, thanks for the response. I have my Music library on a 2TB
external drive and the iTunes library has been mapped to that path
since configuration days. “Keep iTunes Media folder organised” is
selected too as is “Copy files to iTunes Media folder when
adding”.  
 The problem is that I don’t know which files in my Music folder are
_not mapped_ in iTunes.  
 I find by accident when playing something that it “can’t be
found” message.  
 Is there a way of doing a verification pass by iTunes through the
entire Music folder of ALL applicable files (video/music/podcast/etc)
in the “Music" folder are mapped? I could do an “Add to library”
of the Music folder again, but that would do a huge amount of
duplication for those already mapped, but it would pick up those files
not mapped in the process. Is there a script somewhere that can do a
check for this ‘broken link’ for all files in the Music folder
that you know of? 
 Regards 
 Pete.
 Simply having files in the Music folder does not qualify them to be
recognised by iTunes. They need to be inside the iTunes Folder, which
itself is normally inside the Music Folder (although it doesn’t need
to be). Even then, the files need to have been put there by iTunes
itself through an import process, not by simply dragging them in from
another folder in Finder. Therefore, if you have music lying free in
your Music Folder, and which you expect to be recognised by iTunes,
it’s just going to happen. You at least need to drag them onto an
open iTunes window to allow iTunes to deal with them properly. 
Peter Hinchliffe    Apwin Computer Services FileMaker
Pro Solutions Developer
Perth, Western Australia
Phone (618) 9332 6482    Mob 0403 046 948

Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to. 

 

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Re: Relinking music wrongly mapped in iTunes

[petercrisp]

Hi Peter, yes I was aware of the file eligibility requirement by
iTunes. Simply placing an appropriate file type there via back-end
means does not imply it becomes linked automatically. But I am puzzled
the folder ("Fleetwood Mac-1") in my example below is an iTunes
renamed folder arising  from a previous "organising event" by iTunes
itself - how did it become unlinked? I will review the scripts that
Neil provided links to already.

 

Regards

 

Pete.

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To:
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Sent:Fri, 18 Dec 2015 07:22:37 +0800
Subject:Re: Relinking music wrongly mapped in iTunes

  On 17 Dec 2015, at 8:06 PM, Peter Crisp  wrote: 
  Hi Ronni, thanks for the response. I have my Music library on a 2TB
external drive and the iTunes library has been mapped to that path
since configuration days. “Keep iTunes Media folder organised” is
selected too as is “Copy files to iTunes Media folder when
adding”.  
 The problem is that I don’t know which files in my Music folder are
_not mapped_ in iTunes.  
 I find by accident when playing something that it “can’t be
found” message.  
 Is there a way of doing a verification pass by iTunes through the
entire Music folder of ALL applicable files (video/music/podcast/etc)
in the “Music" folder are mapped? I could do an “Add to library”
of the Music folder again, but that would do a huge amount of
duplication for those already mapped, but it would pick up those files
not mapped in the process. Is there a script somewhere that can do a
check for this ‘broken link’ for all files in the Music folder
that you know of? 
 Regards 
 Pete.
 Simply having files in the Music folder does not qualify them to be
recognised by iTunes. They need to be inside the iTunes Folder, which
itself is normally inside the Music Folder (although it doesn’t need
to be). Even then, the files need to have been put there by iTunes
itself through an import process, not by simply dragging them in from
another folder in Finder. Therefore, if you have music lying free in
your Music Folder, and which you expect to be recognised by iTunes,
it’s just going to happen. You at least need to drag them onto an
open iTunes window to allow iTunes to deal with them properly. 
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Solutions Developer
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Re: iMac & mavericks: start up disk problems

[petercrisp]

Hi Gary, a check of the "Last Modified" date of the backup
sparsebundle file on the TM disc for the suspect machine would be
worth looking at. Using another OSX machine to view would be needed
under the circumstances you're in I'd suggest.

 

Regards

 

Pete. 

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Sent:Mon, 07 Dec 2015 15:47:27 +0800
Subject:Re: iMac & mavericks: start up disk problems

 Further to the advice noted below, how do I go about checking  that
the Time Machine backup we supposedly have actually exists and is
accessible. I say this because for a while, the time machine had be
turned off and I frequently find that the usb cable unplugged. 
 So I would like to check the status of time machine before doing
anything else. 
 How would I do this - I have access to a macbook with Mavericksor
Yosemite and a macpro with Lion  
 chow 
 gary dorn gd...@mac.com [1] 

 On 07/12/2015, at 2:14 PM, Neil Houghton wrote: 
 Re: iMac & mavericks: start up disk problems Hi Gary,

 Without wanting to be pessimistic – it sounds very similar to when
I had a hard drive fail.

 You will find out when you (try to) reformat your disk:

* If the format is just badly corrupted – it should reformat and
check out OK 

* If the disk has more severe problems – it will probably continue
to give you error messages (cannot reformat or similar).

 Before you start - 

* If you are confident you have back-ups of everything – and,
hopefully, from your post, this IS the case – you can get into the
reformating. 

* If you are NOT confident you have back-ups of everything –
don’t do anything until you have looked at methods of recovering
data from damaged disks. (too big a subject to cover here & I’m no
expert – but there is info out there...) there is much more chance
of recovery if you have not tried anything else first.

 Obviously to do a complete reformat of the internal drive you will
need to either boot from another drive or do it from another computer
with this one in Target disk mode (is this still possible with
non-firewire machines?)

 Many people recommend doing a secure erase when reformatting after
problems like this – I believe the action of writing the zeros to
every segment helps in identifying and mapping any problem sections.

 Others with more experience/expertise may have more to add/suggest.

 HTH

 Cheers

 Neil
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 on 7/12/15 12:49, gary dorn at gd...@me.com [3] wrote:

Howdy , 
 iMac 10,2 late 2009
 2 TB (600 mb free)
 8mb ram
 Mac OS  mavericks since September ( updated from snow leopard ,
which ran really well for 3 years)

 since Yesterday morning we've had startup problems
 At first startup , was able to login, but then spiral of death
wouldn't,t cease, so forced shutdown ( was in a rush)
 Upon restart starts into HD recovery only 

 I've tried different start up options, i.e. Single user, Pram, select
start up disk, to no obvious effect
 I'm currently in HD recovery, disk utility 
 In Disk utility says , verifying "disk0s2" says disk needs repair

 After some 60 mins disk utility says as a dialogue box.
 "Stopped repairing disk0s2  - can't repair disk - backup, reformat
disk and restore your backed up files."
 Behind that  shows details of disk repair
 Repairing file system
Invalid content in journal
Checking journal HFS Plus volume
Catalog file entry not found for extent
 The volume could not be verified completely
 Invalid content in journal
File system check exit code is 8.
 Updating boot support partitions for the volume as required.
Error: disk utility can't repair this disk e disk, restore
your backed up files.

 Ahhh
 We have a time machine backup 
 We don't have a Mavericks usb installer ( was installed via a
Mavericks installer copy put on hardisk)
 I have a lion usb installer

 Gary Dorn
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Re: Internet over power

[petercrisp]

Thanks for this Ronni. I had a quick glance at the content in the
links there. Whilst I am away at the moment and at the same time in
the complete absence of knowing this ATV4 option existed, the mood in
my house is that PS4 is the preferred option (over XBOX). 

I am a complete novice myself in gaming and wonder if the games
available via the ATV4 combined with the Steelseries controller method
match or exceed the PS4 options. I anticipate my kids have their
hearts set on a specific set of games or a single game. I will find
out what that is if so. Currently I have an ATV2 in the house and it
is a good thing for movie streaming from the Apple store and photo
library showing on the 60" screen but we've not done much else with
it. Will the ATV4 give much added functionality? I know this is a
very broad question but I can only digest summary information.

 

Thanks for this below, I will share with the head of the house for
her input.

 

Kind Regards

 

Pete.

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Sent:Sun, 06 Dec 2015 15:41:11 +0800
Subject:Re: Internet over power

 Hi again Peter,

I just found some free time to support your gaming kids ;-) 
  On 1 Dec 2015, at 7:26 AM, petercr...@westnet.com.au [1] wrote: 
As it happens my wife did a test in the theatre room last night and as
it transpires, she was able to stream a video comfortably in that
room and so it seems the Extender signal is good enough to support a
internet capable gaming console which is the driving need for this
question in the first place.  
 I'm assuming of course that a gaming console is not a greater demand
on bandwidth than streaming a video clip (not sure if it was an HD
clip).  
 HOW MUCH BANDWIDTH DO ONLINE GAMES TAKE? 
 If you share your home with an avid gamer, they often get the blame
when your Internet connection slows to a crawl. However, games
aren’t normally the biggest hogs when it comes to your Net speed.
Actually playing games usually takes very little bandwidth.  The game
just sends minimal information required to tell the other players what
each person is doing. That’s generally just basic mouse and keyboard
strokes: everything else is done on their own computer. 
 Downloading updates,patches,and new games. Some of these can be huge,
and can impact everyone’s usage. Some fully-online games,
particularly Web-based games, send a lot of data, including graphics
and sounds, as you play.  Games you’ve installed, or which you’re
running off a disk, generally don’t do this. 

SO WHERE’S THE BANDWIDTH GOING?  

In a typical four-person home, it’s not unusual to have ten or more
devices all connected to the Internet simultaneously. Not only
everyone’s desktop and/or laptop, but their phones and games
consoles – they’re all taking something. If everyone’s running
apps that are regularly polling for updates, that quickly adds up to a
noticeable background level, even when nothing much is happening.  

The biggest consumer of bandwidth in the home is streaming video. If
you’ve got several people all watching videos on Netflix, Amazon,
Hulu, or YouTube, especially if they’re watching in HD, this will
eat up far more bandwidth than any game. And don’t forget video chat
– that can be a big hit.  

Streaming music isn’t anywhere near as intensive as video, but it
still takes more bandwidth than you might realise, especially if
you’ve selected the higher quality channels.  

Uploading and downloading big files can have a massive effect too. If
you’re downloading or torrenting videos or software, this can slow
things down for everyone. Sometimes, if you have applications that are
downloading updates in the background, you may not even be aware of
it.  

If you’re using cloud storage, Flickr, or Facebook to and uploading
a bunch of photos, that can quickly congest your home connection.  

The other thing to bear in mind is that your neighbours may be
affecting your bandwidth. There’s a limited amount of bandwidth
available in your street, and when everyone’s home, watching videos,
surfing the web and listening to music, it can all get congested.  

On average, we’re using about ten times more bandwidth now than we
were three years ago, and providers sometimes struggle to meet peak
demand. If you test your home Internet speed throughout a weekday,
you’ll probably find that it’s great in the morning, slows down
when the kids get home from school, slows down even more in the
evening, and then picks up again when people are heading to bed. 

So when your Internet feels sluggish, don’t necessarily blame your
WARCRAFT– or CALL OF DUTY-obsessed kid.  Their game is unlikely to
be the true culprit. 

Instead purchase this for the kids this Christmas ;-))   STEELSERIES
NIMBUS WIRELESS GAMING CONTROLLER - A$94.95  
 The SteelSeries Nimbus wireless controller lets you play 

Re: Internet over power

[petercrisp]

Thanks Tim for your replies. That app is a good one to know. When I
am back home I will give it a try. The configuration in our house does
not make it easier to place the extender further from the base and
hence closer to the theatre. I considered this when setting it up for
the first time for this very reason. 

As it happens my wife did a test in the theatre room last night and
as it transpires, she was able to stream a video comfortably in that
room and so it seems the Extender signal is good enough to support a
internet capable gaming console which is the driving need for this
question in the first place. I'm assuming of course that a gaming
console is not a greater demand on bandwidth than streaming a video
clip (not sure if it was an HD clip).

Thanks again.

 

Regards

 

Pete.

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Sent:Mon, 30 Nov 2015 20:39:25 +0800
Subject:Re: Internet over power

 Peter, 

 One thought is to make the Airport Express work harder and place it
further away, thus closer to the theatre room, and servicing both the
kids and the theatre room. Is that feasible?

 The app would show you the difference in setups

 Tim

 Sent from Tim's iPhone

 > On 30 Nov 2015, at 8:32 PM, Tim Law  wrote:
 > 
 > Hi peter
 > 
 > This is not answering your question, but I found the wifi strength
mapping app Telstra WiFi Maximiser useful is seeing the coverage I was
getting in and around my house. 
 > 
 > It showed me I was getting better coverage than I thought, so I've
not gone too far down the track of multiple extenders. 
 > 
 > Telstra Wi-Fi Maximiser by Telstra Corporation Ltd
 > https://appsto.re/au/sajx0.i
 > 
 > I took a photo of the house plan, imported it into the app, then
you go around the house marking many points and it draws a signal
strength map. 
 > 
 > It might help you play and compare setups. 
 > 
 > Tim
 > 
 > Sent from Tim's iPhone
 > 
 >> On 30 Nov 2015, at 8:08 PM, Peter Crisp  wrote:
 >> 
 >> Hi all, I have a Time Capsule located in a room which is biased
one end of the house. The 5 GHz wireless signal from the TC is good in
the main living area down to a point 1/2 way down the house. I have an
Apple Express set up as an extender from the TC signal which boosts
the signal in the three childrens bedroom area (about 2/3rds down the
house). So it is all good for all concerned. Good enough for all three
of them to be Youtube streaming simultaneously!
 >> 
 >> I also have a theatre room which is even further beyond the kids
rooms from the TC and the extender so the signal is weaker. 
 >> 
 >> I have a few thoughts about possible solution not in any
particular priority;
 >> 
 >> 1 Run a blue cable all the way down there through the ceiling from
the TC LAN port
 >> 2 Install a 'Internet over Power" device to provide a signal in
the theatre
 >> 3 Another extender - not sure if this is even possible with one
already in place. Can I put an extender onto the existing extender
down in the theatre?
 >> 
 >> Any comments from those who may have addressed this in the past
welcomed
 >> 
 >> Regards
 >> 
 >> 
 >> Pete
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[petercrisp]

Yes! And a 6S Plus as well. so you're fully connected! 

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Subject:Re: Mail - El Capitan

Hey Severin, 
 Don't hesitate - Make that call to T4 and get them to rush up a new
iPad to you on 'the hill'  ;-) We only live once!

Sent from Ronni's iPad4 

On 24 Nov 2015, at 2:34 PM, Severin Crisp  wrote:

  Many thanks Ronni for your usual thorough, knowledgable and
effective investigation!   Yes, clicking on View in Browser is a
complete fix for me at this stage.  Crikey have not responded!
 Severin 
 I had not realised how computer dependent we become.  Our two mobile
devices, iPhone and iPad, have gone walkabout to Cambodia with Jenny
and my son so I just have my iMac - upstairs.  With my severely
restricted mobility it is a pain when I am downstairs.  I have been
tempted, but resisted, a phone call to T4 to ask them to hand deliver
a retina iPad!    Sunday all will return to normal.   
  
 On 24 Nov 2015, at 1:33 PM, Ronni Brown  wrote: 
 Hi Severin,
 Are you only experiencing non-active links when clicking on links in
the Crikey newsletter in Apple Mail & iOS 9.1? I have noticed the
problem in the 1pm newsletter in email on my Macs & iOS devices. 
 If you click on ‘VIEW IN BROWSER’ at the top right in the
Newsletter - the Newsletter opens and all the links work correctly
viewed in browser. Which leads me to think the links in the Newsletter
(below the INSIDER heading line) delivered to our email are not
coded/formatted correctly. 
 To try to prove this point - I did this:  1. Open the newsletter in
Safari by click ‘View in Browser' 2. When the Newsletter displays in
Safari - Click the Share button  [↑]  3. Choose "Email this page"
4. In the new message, make sure "Send Web Content As" is set to "Web
Page" 
 When the email arrives it shows all the ‘links’ and they are
active ‘clickable’ ;-)  
 Be interesting to hear what Crikey have to say if they get back to
you.  Of course if this is not the problem you are experiencing...
I’ve just wasted my time doing this experiment ;-) 
 Cheers, Ronni

 On 23 Nov 2015, at 3:36 PM, Severin Crisp  wrote: 
 I also have El Capitan 10.11.1 and Safari 9.0.1 but links to items
post the finger but are just dead.  With control and copy the first
of today's links I get:-
  Encryption opponents rush to exploit the victims of Paris 
 If I copy this to Safari it takes me there, but why did it not decode
it and do it straight away?   Severin 

 On 23 Nov 2015, at 2:03 PM, Ronda Brown  wrote: 
  Hi Severin, 
 The links on Crikey work fine in my Safari 9.0.1 El Capitan 10.11.1

Sent from Ronni's iPad4 

On 23 Nov 2015, at 12:17 PM, Severin Crisp  wrote:

  Another item has appeared.  Links on Crikey do not work.  They
come up as an   x-webdoc://     format which is not recognisable.
  I have asked Crikey to comment Severin Crisp 

 On 23 Nov 2015, at 12:09 PM, Philippe Chaperon  wrote: 
Hi Everyone,

I too am missing the ‘magic wheel’ and the drop-down options in
Mail. Hopefully Apple will bring it back in its usual place.  

Slightly off-topic but still on the retrograde changes in El Capitan,
I have noticed that the Dictionary which used to have a variety of
languages available now seem locked to the OS chosen language, ie
English in my case. Under Yosemite I was able to have English, French,
Spanish and other languages although the main OS is in English.

Have I possibly missed a setting somewhere? 

Many thanks and have a wonderful day, 

Philippe Chaperon

On 23 Nov 2015, at 7:30 am, Peter Hinchliffe  wrote:

On 20 Nov 2015, at 5:51 PM, Severin Crisp  wrote:

The list of all my mailboxes are showing but the little magic wheel at
the bottom with drop down options is not there.  
Severin 

Yes, it has disappeared. I miss it as well. Along with has gone the
permanent activity panel. It still makes appearance periodically
during sending and receiving events, but remains hiddne for the rest
of the time. We now have to use the Mailbox menu for those functions
we found in the Gear icon, and use the (now ancient) Window > Activity
window to see a permanent display of send/receive activity.

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FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
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Re: iPhone charging

[petercrisp]

Thanks Gary, I will get my son to get the app and track what is going
on.

 

Regards

 

Pete. 

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Sent:Mon, 23 Nov 2015 10:35:36 +0800
Subject:Re: iPhone charging

The app battery doctor may help in the charging patterns

Sent from my iPhone  
On 23 Nov 2015, at 9:56 AM, petercr...@westnet.com.au [1] wrote:

 Hi, thanks for that Ronni. Yes I figured that it operated somewhat
like that. I will get it calibrated as well to ensure the battery
condition is consistent with indicated percentage 

  

Regards 

  

Pete.

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Sent:Mon, 23 Nov 2015 09:33:18 +0800
Subject:Re: iPhone charging

 Hi Peter, 
 You could try calibrating the battery, but what I think is happening.

 The battery display icon shows a "bolt" when charging and changes to
a "plug" when connected to power but not charging. 
 When the iPhone is first plugged into power the icon will show the
'bolt' meaning the iPhone is charging.
The active charge cycle stops once the battery has reached full
charge.   The phone recognises that is it still plugged in, and you
would notice the "plug" icon in the battery (no 'bolt')... indicating
the phone is no longer charging.   
 Because it is no longer actively charging, or drawing any power from
the charger at all, the phone's operations begin to wear down the
battery again.  The difference between waking up to a battery that is
100% charged (if charging overnight) and waking up to a battery with
only a 95% charge, is based on when the battery reached full charge
(perhaps several hours before checking it for the first time) and how
much juice the phone needed to continue operation.   If the phone is
set to check email, has location based services running, sending usage
data to Apple, etc., the battery will run down some extent, just like
it was *not* plugged in. 
 If you remove the cable from the phone, and plug it back in it will
charge to 100% again in a short time. 
 Cheers, Ronni  
Sent from Ronni's iPad4   On 23 Nov 2015, at 7:56 AM,
petercr...@westnet.com.au [4] wrote:

My son's iPhone 4S which was a hand-me-down of unknown vintage though
obviously many years old was having very short battery life
notwithstanding his usage pattern. I arranged and fitted a replacement
battery and the replacement battery has a longer life and probably
adequate but has a particular behaviour. It can be placed on charge
and the battery level indicator will go green with icon reflecting on
charge, but overnight, the charge level will actually go down.  

  

Is this something others have experienced? 

  

Regards 

  

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iPhone charging

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My son's iPhone 4S which was a hand-me-down of unknown vintage though
obviously many years old was having very short battery life
notwithstanding his usage pattern. I arranged and fitted a replacement
battery and the replacement battery has a longer life and probably
adequate but has a particular behaviour. It can be placed on charge
and the battery level indicator will go green with icon reflecting on
charge, but overnight, the charge level will actually go down. 

 

Is this something others have experienced?

 

Regards

 

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[petercrisp]

 Hi, thanks for that Ronni. Yes I figured that it operated somewhat
like that. I will get it calibrated as well to ensure the battery
condition is consistent with indicated percentage.

 

Regards

 

Pete.

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Sent:Mon, 23 Nov 2015 09:33:18 +0800
Subject:Re: iPhone charging

 Hi Peter, 
 You could try calibrating the battery, but what I think is happening.

 The battery display icon shows a "bolt" when charging and changes to
a "plug" when connected to power but not charging. 
 When the iPhone is first plugged into power the icon will show the
'bolt' meaning the iPhone is charging.
The active charge cycle stops once the battery has reached full
charge.   The phone recognises that is it still plugged in, and you
would notice the "plug" icon in the battery (no 'bolt').. indicating
the phone is no longer charging.   
 Because it is no longer actively charging, or drawing any power from
the charger at all, the phone's operations begin to wear down the
battery again.  The difference between waking up to a battery that is
100% charged (if charging overnight) and waking up to a battery with
only a 95% charge, is based on when the battery reached full charge
(perhaps several hours before checking it for the first time) and how
much juice the phone needed to continue operation.   If the phone is
set to check email, has location based services running, sending usage
data to Apple, etc., the battery will run down some extent, just like
it was *not* plugged in. 
 If you remove the cable from the phone, and plug it back in it will
charge to 100% again in a short time. 
 Cheers, Ronni  
Sent from Ronni's iPad4   On 23 Nov 2015, at 7:56 AM,
petercr...@westnet.com.au [1] wrote:

My son's iPhone 4S which was a hand-me-down of unknown vintage though
obviously many years old was having very short battery life
notwithstanding his usage pattern. I arranged and fitted a replacement
battery and the replacement battery has a longer life and probably
adequate but has a particular behaviour. It can be placed on charge
and the battery level indicator will go green with icon reflecting on
charge, but overnight, the charge level will actually go down.  

  

Is this something others have experienced? 

  

Regards 

  

Pete.
  

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Thanks Ronni.

 

Regards

 

Peter. 

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Subject:Re: iPhone charging

Hi Peter, 
 Your son can recalibrate his iPhone.  

IPHONE BATTERY CALIBRATION 

STEP 1. Use your Device until it runs out of battery and turns off
by itself. You could watch a bunch of HD youtube videos to speed up
the process.  

STEP 2. Recharge your device until its 100% charged.          
                           Don't unplug it at all or
turn off the charger - any interruption and you will have to go back
to Step 1. 

STEP 3. _Reset your device_. Hold both the power button and the home
button together at the same time, keep holding them! You will see the
power off slider come up, keep holding! Once you see the Apple symbol
come up on your screen you can let go... 

Done!! battery Calibrated  

Calibration will help maintain your battery.  It will not fix a
failing battery although it may improve its function.Cheers, Ronni
Sent from Ronni's iPad4 

On 23 Nov 2015, at 9:56 AM, petercr...@westnet.com.au [1] wrote:

 Hi, thanks for that Ronni. Yes I figured that it operated somewhat
like that. I will get it calibrated as well to ensure the battery
condition is consistent with indicated percentage 

  

Regards 

  

Pete.

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 From: wamug@wamug.org.au [2]  
To:
Cc: 
Sent:Mon, 23 Nov 2015 09:33:18 +0800
Subject:Re: iPhone charging

 Hi Peter, 
 You could try calibrating the battery, but what I think is happening.

 The battery display icon shows a "bolt" when charging and changes to
a "plug" when connected to power but not charging. 
 When the iPhone is first plugged into power the icon will show the
'bolt' meaning the iPhone is charging.
The active charge cycle stops once the battery has reached full
charge.   The phone recognises that is it still plugged in, and you
would notice the "plug" icon in the battery (no 'bolt')... indicating
the phone is no longer charging.   
 Because it is no longer actively charging, or drawing any power from
the charger at all, the phone's operations begin to wear down the
battery again.  The difference between waking up to a battery that is
100% charged (if charging overnight) and waking up to a battery with
only a 95% charge, is based on when the battery reached full charge
(perhaps several hours before checking it for the first time) and how
much juice the phone needed to continue operation.   If the phone is
set to check email, has location based services running, sending usage
data to Apple, etc., the battery will run down some extent, just like
it was *not* plugged in. 
 If you remove the cable from the phone, and plug it back in it will
charge to 100% again in a short time 
 Cheers, Ronni  
Sent from Ronni's iPad4   On 23 Nov 2015, at 7:56 AM,
petercr...@westnet.com.au [4] wrote:

My son's iPhone 4S which was a hand-me-down of unknown vintage though
obviously many years old was having very short battery life
notwithstanding his usage pattern. I arranged and fitted a replacement
battery and the replacement battery has a longer life and probably
adequate but has a particular behaviour. It can be placed on charge
and the battery level indicator will go green with icon reflecting on
charge, but overnight, the charge level will actually go down.  

  

Is this something others have experienced? 

  

Regards 

  

Pete.

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Re: Shared Photo Album to members with same Apple ID

[petercrisp]

Notifications is already is set to on. She is able to lodge comments,
Like etc. When she lodges a comment and I lodge a comment, there is
no distinction to me of who lodged the comment even though we're not
the same invitee.

 

Regards

 

Pete.

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To:
Cc:
Sent:Sun, 22 Nov 2015 06:53:09 +0800
Subject:Re: Shared Photo Album to members with same Apple ID

 Hi Peter,

 Ask the invitee (your wife) to turn on notifications in photos.

 Cheers,
 Ronni

 Sent from Ronni's iPad4

 > On 21 Nov 2015, at 7:48 PM, Peter Crisp  wrote:
 > 
 > I set up a ‘Test’ Shared photo album as I was seeing some odd
behaviour in a Shared album (setup by my brother) that has more than
one member with the same Apple ID as another subscriber.
 > 
 > I tried a test Shared album myself, I invited my Dad (different
Apple ID to me) and my wife (same Apple ID to me) and my Dad got an
invite and accepted and was able to see the photos. My wife said she
never got an invite and when I sent it again (from my iPhone 5S using
iOS V9.1) - the shared album disappeared off the iPhone - and no way
to retrieve it!!
 > 
 > This seems to be a bug with iOS V9.1.
 > 
 > I am sure years ago I was able to have other members of my family
(same Apple ID) coincident with other members (dissimilar Apple ID).
 > 
 > Anyone else see this behaviour?
 > 
 > Pete.
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Re: Shared Photo Album to members with same Apple ID

[petercrisp]

Ok thanks Ronni, so it seems a dead end for now. Hopefully Apple will
in future iOS updates build in the "device name" identity for comments
in Shared albums for multiple invitees with the same Apple ID. 

 

Regards

 

Pete.

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Sent:Sun, 22 Nov 2015 15:01:18 +0800
Subject:Re: Shared Photo Album to members with same Apple ID

Hi Peter & Tim, 
 "Your name in comments matches the Full Name for the Apple ID that
you used to join the Shared Album." So this is most probably what is
happening, as Tim mentioned below. 

Photo Album sharing is different to Find My Phone or Mac.   
Cheers, Ronni  
Sent from Ronni's iPad4 

On 22 Nov 2015, at 2:24 PM, Tim Law  wrote:

  I'd be thinking it's because you're signing in with the same AppleID
I might be missing something but if you sign in with the same AppleID
even from different continents, the computers not going to be able
distinguish who tapped in the text. 
 Tim

Sent from Tim's Retina iPad 2  
On 22 Nov 2015, at 1:53 PM, petercr...@westnet.com.au [2] wrote:

Hi Ronni,  

That is exactly how it works for me (as you've explained
below) except for one thing. When my wife makes her comment (She
signs it off Jo so we can all tell it's her) however, even her
comment still says from "You" when I read it on my iPhone and there
is no distinction between 'her' comment and 'my' comment on the same
photo. If I tap and hold my finger down on either 'her' or 'my'
comment I am able to delete either or our comments. 

  

Regards 

  

Pete.

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 From: wamug@wamug.org.au [3]  
To:
Cc: 
Sent:Sun, 22 Nov 2015 13:41:24 +0800
Subject:Re: Shared Photo Album to members with same Apple ID

Hi Peter, 

To like an image or add and view comments in Photos for iOS, tap to
open the shared album, and then tap the picture itself to open it.  

Beneath the picture, you see controls that let you like the image,
view comments, and add your own. To delete a comment, tap and hold
your finger down on it, and then tap the Delete button that appears
just above the comment.In the View comment window you should see:
'Posted by You' - an hour ago (or whatever) and your Comment by 'You'.
Then under your comment you should see your 'Wife's comment & her
'Name' and how long ago she made her comment. 
 Cheers, Ronni  
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4 

On 22 Nov 2015, at 10:24 AM, petercr...@westnet.com.au [5] wrote:

Notifications is already is set to on. She is able to lodge comments,
Like etc. When she lodges a comment and I lodge a comment, there is
no distinction to me of who lodged the comment even though we're not
the same invitee. 

  

Regards 

  

Pete.

- Original Message -
 From: wamug@wamug.org.au [6]  
To:
Cc: 
Sent:Sun, 22 Nov 2015 06:53:09 +0800
Subject:Re: Shared Photo Album to members with same Apple ID

 Hi Peter,

 Ask the invitee (your wife) to turn on notifications in photos.

 Cheers,
 Ronni

 Sent from Ronni's iPad4

 > On 21 Nov 2015, at 7:48 PM, Peter Crisp  wrote:
 > 
 > I set up a ‘Test’ Shared photo album as I was seeing some odd
behaviour in a Shared album (setup by my brother) that has more than
one member with the same Apple ID as another subscriber.
 > 
 > I tried a test Shared album myself, I invited my Dad (different
Apple ID to me) and my wife (same Apple ID to me) and my Dad got an
invite and accepted and was able to see the photos. My wife said she
never got an invite and when I sent it again (from my iPhone 5S using
iOS V9.1) - the shared album disappeared off the iPhone - and no way
to retrieve it!!
 > 
 > This seems to be a bug with iOS V9.1.
 > 
 > I am sure years ago I was able to have other members of my family
(same Apple ID) coincident with other members (dissimilar Apple ID).
 > 
 > Anyone else see this behaviour?
 > 

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Re: New iPhone 6s with my Car Bluetooth ?

[petercrisp]

Ok, that is frustrating to be sure. I would try as per the link here
as a tip. 

I would also try the following if it were me. Select the Bluetooth
pairing for the car on the phone as it is and "Forget this device"
and remove the previous pairing of the 6S phone within the car. Do
an iPhone shutdown and reboot, Start the whole process over again and
reset the pairing from phone to car. See how that all goes.

 


http://www.subaruxvforum.com/forum/interior-audio/11954-iphone-5s-wont-automatically-connect-bluetooth.html
[1] 

Regards

 

Pete.

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Sent:Sun, 22 Nov 2015 13:10:25 +0800
Subject:Re: New iPhone 6s with my Car Bluetooth ?

It’s a Subaru XV 2012. I am sure the issue is with the phone. The
Car Manual is quite straight forward.  
 The car gave a code to input in the phone for pairing. I did that and
the car confirmed pairing complete. 
 It is paired with the car, but does not connect automatically. So
every time I start car I must tell the iPhone to connect. 

 On 22 Nov 2015, at 12:46 PM, petercr...@westnet.com.au [2] wrote: 

What car is it Stephen, Model and Year and what Media options do you
have in the car? I presume you've read the car manual about "auto
Bluetooth phone connection" or similar? Typically provided the pairing
is done on your phone, it would auto connect on future occasions, even
if you hadn't deleted the old phone's identity in the car's phone
library.  

Regards  

Pete.

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Subject:New iPhone 6s with my Car Bluetooth ?

 Hi folks,
 I recently deleted my old iPhone 5 from my Car Media then paired my
new 6s with the Car Media. Previously when I started my car the iPhone
5 automatically connected. 
 However ??? this does not happen with my 6s. Each time I start the
car I must (on my 6s) tap Settings, Bluetooth, then car Media and wait
for connection. Does anyone know if there is a way to automate this as
it was with my old iPhone 5 ? 
 Or perhaps I am missing something on the Car Media settings !  
Regards,
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Re: Shared Photo Album to members with same Apple ID

[petercrisp]

Thanks Tim, that's what I thought too, but if Find my iPhone is smart
enough to figure out which device is which (within the one Apple ID)
then surely it can distinguish which device wrote the comment (from
within the one Apple ID) too.

 

Regards

 

Pete. 

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From: wamug@wamug.org.au
To:
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Sent:Sun, 22 Nov 2015 14:24:26 +0800
Subject:Re: Shared Photo Album to members with same Apple ID

I'd be thinking it's because you're signing in with the same AppleID I
might be missing something but if you sign in with the same AppleID
even from different continents, the computers not going to be able
distinguish who tapped in the text. 
 Tim

Sent from Tim's Retina iPad 2  
On 22 Nov 2015, at 1:53 PM, petercr...@westnet.com.au [1] wrote:

Hi Ronni,  

That is exactly how it works for me (as you've explained
below) except for one thing. When my wife makes her comment (She
signs it off Jo so we can all tell it's her) however, even her
comment still says from "You" when I read it on my iPhone and there
is no distinction between 'her' comment and 'my' comment on the same
photo. If I tap and hold my finger down on either 'her' or 'my'
comment I am able to delete either or our comments. 

  

Regards 

  

Pete.

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 From: wamug@wamug.org.au [2]  
To:
Cc: 
Sent:Sun, 22 Nov 2015 13:41:24 +0800
Subject:Re: Shared Photo Album to members with same Apple ID

Hi Peter, 

To like an image or add and view comments in Photos for iOS, tap to
open the shared album, and then tap the picture itself to open it.  

Beneath the picture, you see controls that let you like the image,
view comments, and add your own. To delete a comment, tap and hold
your finger down on it, and then tap the Delete button that appears
just above the comment.In the View comment window you should see:
'Posted by You' - an hour ago (or whatever) and your Comment by 'You'.
Then under your comment you should see your 'Wife's comment & her
'Name' and how long ago she made her comment. 
 Cheers, Ronni  
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4 

On 22 Nov 2015, at 10:24 AM, petercr...@westnet.com.au [4] wrote:

Notifications is already is set to on. She is able to lodge comments,
Like etc. When she lodges a comment and I lodge a comment, there is
no distinction to me of who lodged the comment even though we're not
the same invitee. 

  

Regards 

  

Pete.

- Original Message -
 From: wamug@wamug.org.au [5]  
To:
Cc: 
Sent:Sun, 22 Nov 2015 06:53:09 +0800
Subject:Re: Shared Photo Album to members with same Apple ID

 Hi Peter,

 Ask the invitee (your wife) to turn on notifications in photos.

 Cheers,
 Ronni

 Sent from Ronni's iPad4

 > On 21 Nov 2015, at 7:48 PM, Peter Crisp  wrote:
 > 
 > I set up a ‘Test’ Shared photo album as I was seeing some odd
behaviour in a Shared album (setup by my brother) that has more than
one member with the same Apple ID as another subscriber.
 > 
 > I tried a test Shared album myself, I invited my Dad (different
Apple ID to me) and my wife (same Apple ID to me) and my Dad got an
invite and accepted and was able to see the photos. My wife said she
never got an invite and when I sent it again (from my iPhone 5S using
iOS V9.1) - the shared album disappeared off the iPhone - and no way
to retrieve it!!
 > 
 > This seems to be a bug with iOS V9.1.
 > 
 > I am sure years ago I was able to have other members of my family
(same Apple ID) coincident with other members (dissimilar Apple ID).
 > 
 > Anyone else see this behaviour?
 > 

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Re: Shared Photo Album to members with same Apple ID

[petercrisp]

Yes, agreed Neil. Whilst I have two iOS devices myself, my other
family members (using 'my' Apple ID) all have at least one and some
two also iOS devices. So maybe the way it is currently should remain.
Clearly Apple will have considered this in their deployment to arrive
at the way it is set to be currently. 

All good.

 

Regards

 

Pete.

 
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Sent:Sun, 22 Nov 2015 15:07:08 +0800
Subject:Re: Shared Photo Album to members with same Apple ID

Re: Shared Photo Album to members with same Apple IDHi Pete,

 I’m not a user of Photos or iPhoto – so these are just my
“thoughts” rather than experience ;o)

 I think it is as Tim says and I would imagine that the difference is
because Find my iPhone is based on devices, not users – ie you could
have multiple iPhones and iPads and it should show them all as
different devices (if set up to do that) because it is looking at the
hardware ID.

 Comments etc are considered as input by users, ie by user ID, so you
can put input in by iphone or ipad and it still knows its “you” as
the device is signed into your account. Anyone else signed in using
the same ID is considered as “you”.

 It should work the other way – eg if you shared an ipad, say, and
logged in as you – the comment would show as from you. If you then
signed out and someone else signed in with THEIR (different) Apple ID,
the comment would show as from THEM – even though they both come
from the same actual device.

 Cheers

 Neil
 -- 
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 Albany, Western Australia
 Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
 Email: n...@possumology.com

 on 22/11/15 14:31, petercr...@westnet.com.au at
petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:

 Thanks Tim, that's what I thought too, but if Find my iPhone is smart
enough to figure out which device is which (within the one Apple ID)
then surely it can distinguish which device wrote the comment (from
within the one Apple ID) too.

  

 Regards

  

 Pete. 

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 To:

 Cc:

 Sent:
 Sun, 22 Nov 2015 14:24:26 +0800
 Subject:
 Re: Shared Photo Album to members with same Apple ID

 I'd be thinking it's because you're signing in with the same AppleID
 I might be missing something but if you sign in with the same AppleID
even from different continents, the computers not going to be able
distinguish who tapped in the text

 Tim

 Sent from Tim's Retina iPad 2

 On 22 Nov 2015, at 1:53 PM, petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:

 Hi Ronni, 

 That is exactly how it works for me (as you've explained
below) except for one thing. When my wife makes her comment (She
signs it off Jo so we can all tell it's her) however, even her
comment still says from "You" when I read it on my iPhone and there
is no distinction between 'her' comment and 'my' comment on the same
photo. If I tap and hold my finger down on either 'her' or 'my'
comment I am able to delete either or our comments.

  

 Regards

  

 Pete.

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 To:

 Cc:

 Sent:
 Sun, 22 Nov 2015 13:41:24 +0800
 Subject:
 Re: Shared Photo Album to members with same Apple ID

 Hi Peter,
 To like an image or add and view comments in Photos for iOS, tap to
open the shared album, and then tap the picture itself to open it. 
 Beneath the picture, you see controls that let you like the image,
view comments, and add your own. To delete a comment, tap and hold
your finger down on it, and then tap the Delete button that appears
just above the comment.
 In the View comment window you should see:
 'Posted by You' - an hour ago (or whatever) and your Comment by 'You'
 Then under your comment you should see your 'Wife's comment & her
'Name' and how long ago she made her comment.

 Cheers,
 Ronni

 Sent from Ronni's iPad4

 On 22 Nov 2015, at 10:24 AM, petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:

 Notifications is already is set to on. She is able to lodge comments,
Like etc. When she lodges a comment and I lodge a comment, there is
no distinction to me of who lodged the comment even though we're not
the same invitee.

  

 Regards

  

 Pete.

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 From:
  wamug@wamug.org.au 

 To:

 Cc:

 Sent:
 Sun, 22 Nov 2015 06:53:09 +0800
 Subject:
 Re: Shared Photo Album to members with same Apple ID

 Hi Peter,

 Ask the invitee (your wife) to turn on notifications in photos.

 Cheers,
 Ronni

 Sent from Ronni's iPad4

 > On 21 Nov 2015, at 7:48 PM, Peter Crisp  wrote:
 > 
 > I set up a ‘Test’ Shared photo album as I was seeing some odd
behaviour in a Shared album (setup by my brother) that has more than
one member with the same Apple ID as another subscriber.
 > 
 > I tried a test Shared album myself, I invited my Dad (different
Apple ID to me) and my wife (same Apple ID to me) and my Dad got an
invite and accepted and was able to see the photos. My wife said she
never got an invite and when I sent it again (from my iPhone 5S using
iOS V9.1) - 

Re: Shared Photo Album to members with same Apple ID

[petercrisp]

Hi Ronni, 

That is exactly how it works for me (as you've explained
below) except for one thing. When my wife makes her comment (She
signs it off Jo so we can all tell it's her) however, even her
comment still says from "You" when I read it on my iPhone and there
is no distinction between 'her' comment and 'my' comment on the same
photo. If I tap and hold my finger down on either 'her' or 'my'
comment I am able to delete either or our comments.

 

Regards

 

Pete.

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To:
Cc:
Sent:Sun, 22 Nov 2015 13:41:24 +0800
Subject:Re: Shared Photo Album to members with same Apple ID

Hi Peter, 

To like an image or add and view comments in Photos for iOS, tap to
open the shared album, and then tap the picture itself to open it.  

Beneath the picture, you see controls that let you like the image,
view comments, and add your own. To delete a comment, tap and hold
your finger down on it, and then tap the Delete button that appears
just above the comment.In the View comment window you should see:
'Posted by You' - an hour ago (or whatever) and your Comment by 'You'.
Then under your comment you should see your 'Wife's comment & her
'Name' and how long ago she made her comment. 
 Cheers, Ronni  
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4 

On 22 Nov 2015, at 10:24 AM, petercr...@westnet.com.au [1] wrote:

Notifications is already is set to on. She is able to lodge comments,
Like etc. When she lodges a comment and I lodge a comment, there is
no distinction to me of who lodged the comment even though we're not
the same invitee. 

  

Regards 

  

Pete.

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To:
Cc: 
Sent:Sun, 22 Nov 2015 06:53:09 +0800
Subject:Re: Shared Photo Album to members with same Apple ID

 Hi Peter,

 Ask the invitee (your wife) to turn on notifications in photos.

 Cheers,
 Ronni

 Sent from Ronni's iPad4

 > On 21 Nov 2015, at 7:48 PM, Peter Crisp  wrote:
 > 
 > I set up a ‘Test’ Shared photo album as I was seeing some odd
behaviour in a Shared album (setup by my brother) that has more than
one member with the same Apple ID as another subscriber.
 > 
 > I tried a test Shared album myself, I invited my Dad (different
Apple ID to me) and my wife (same Apple ID to me) and my Dad got an
invite and accepted and was able to see the photos. My wife said she
never got an invite and when I sent it again (from my iPhone 5S using
iOS V9.1) - the shared album disappeared off the iPhone - and no way
to retrieve it!!
 > 
 > This seems to be a bug with iOS V9.1.
 > 
 > I am sure years ago I was able to have other members of my family
(same Apple ID) coincident with other members (dissimilar Apple ID).
 > 
 > Anyone else see this behaviour?
 > 

  

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Re: New iPhone 6s with my Car Bluetooth ?

[petercrisp]

What car is it Stephen, Model and Year and what Media options do you
have in the car? I presume you've read the car manual about "auto
Bluetooth phone connection" or similar? Typically provided the pairing
is done on your phone, it would auto connect on future occasions, even
if you hadn't deleted the old phone's identity in the car's phone
library.

 

Regards

 

Pete.

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Subject:New iPhone 6s with my Car Bluetooth ?

 Hi folks,
 I recently deleted my old iPhone 5 from my Car Media then paired my
new 6s with the Car Media. Previously when I started my car the iPhone
5 automatically connected. 
 However ??? this does not happen with my 6s. Each time I start the
car I must (on my 6s) tap Settings, Bluetooth, then car Media and wait
for connection. Does anyone know if there is a way to automate this as
it was with my old iPhone 5 ? 
 Or perhaps I am missing something on the Car Media settings ! 
Regards,
Stephen Chape 


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Re: Apple TV Remote

[petercrisp]

HI Laura, a couple of things that might be worth trying. Did you
google "pairing Apple tv remote". See clip at the link below. That
will run you through the repairing process. Perhaps that will help.
Another suggestion as an interim measure is to download the app
"Remote" from the iTunes store and control your AppleTV directly from
your iOS device. I find that is pretty good especially for typing in
searches or Password etc as the single letter navigation via the hand
remote isn't that quick. You might find that the app enables you to
fully function without the remote handset.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfNMd0T8cqc

Good luck.
Regards
Pete.

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Subject:Apple TV Remote

 Good morning all

 Just a quick question about Apple TV Remote, that’s the old Apple
TV, not the new version. Does the Remote have a finite life? Mine
seems to have died after several years of use. Of course I have
replaced the battery from time to time but now it no longer works. Nor
do I know if it is possible to access my AppleTV without the Remote.
It seems a new Remote is required but thought it worth contacting the
WAMUG gurus first.

 I’m not having a good run just now. I got caught up in the Ice TV
Skippa PVR disaster. IceTV went into Voluntary Liquidation a mere few
days after my Skippa arrived. That was after waiting four months for
delivery. I have now had my purchase price totally refunded by PayPal
and in time will look for something else as a replacement. I wonder if
anyone else on this List has had a similar experience with IceTV’s
Skippa which, with Ad skipping, had the potential to be something
rather special.

 Regards
 Laura
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That's an odd one Gary. You've done a shutdown and restart presumably.
 Do you have a recent back up - perhaps Restore from Backup will put
it back in place. 

Pete.

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Sent:Thu, 05 Nov 2015 11:08:08 +0800
Subject:iPad AppStore disappeared

 Howdy,
 Somehow the App Store app on our iPad 2 has disappeared.
 Search only comes up with Wikipedia description.

 Any ideas where it has gone, and how to get it back

 iOS 9.0

 Chow

 Gary Dorn
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Re: iOS9 downloads

[petercrisp]

Thanks Ronni, understood it is a different subject. No rush.
Pete.

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To:
Cc:
Sent:Wed, 28 Oct 2015 16:08:36 +0800
Subject:Re: iOS9 downloads

Hi Peter, 
 I'll reply in another email with a suitable Subject to your questions
regarding updating numerous Macs OS X & iOS devices in your household.

 I'll get to it as soon as I can find time. 
 Cheers, Ronni

Sent from Ronni's iPad4 

On 28 Oct 2015, at 2:10 PM, petercr...@westnet.com.au [1] wrote:

 Thanks Ronni for clarifying that. Makes sense. Generally I make sure
i do a Backup of my iOS devices to iTunes prior to an iOS minor update
(within version release) and Transfer Purchases made since last
Backup. Once that's done I unplug and then update OTA. Been trouble
free for many updates so far.
 What I would like to know is how can I arrange updates for the 8 iOS
devices in my household (all using the one AppleID) but synchronised
with 5 respective iTunes instances on those relevant MBP's without
downloading the update file 8 times - and similarly for OSX (for the
5MBP's) Can I put the update file on the network and pick it up at
each MBP and place strategically in Finder to allow the update to
happen on the other machines? 
 Pete.

- Original Message -
 From: wamug@wamug.org.au [2]  
To:"WAMUG" 
Cc: 
Sent:Wed, 28 Oct 2015 13:22:41 +0800
Subject:Re: iOS9 downloads

 Hi Severin & Peter,
   At first approximation they are the same, _BUT THE MECHANISM OF THE
UPDATE IS DIFFERENT SINCE ONE CAN BE A DELTA AND SELF-APPLIED UPDATE
AND THE OTHER INSTALLS A COMPLETE BUILD RATHER THAN PATCHING THE OS._ 

 The OTA (Over The Air) update implies the OS and device is working
properly, so iTunes is a good bet if you really want to ensure the
update goes well or want to put the device into Recovery mode to
ensure the new OS and only the new OS is written.  Obviously, if the
device is having problems, you should opt for iTunes to control the
update rather than hoping the device installs the patch properly. 
  iTunes downloads a several hundred megabyte IPSW file that can be
used to do a more complete “Restore" if needed.  It is the
“Restore" that will reformat the filesystem etc. 
 Assuming your device is working well, you can safely update OTA
(plugged into power) and in many cases - the download is a delta
update that is smaller than the entire image if you are doing an
update that isn't a major version (8.0 or 9.0) 
 Using iTunes also gives you a chance to transfer purchases and reduce
the number of apps you will have to re-download after a major update.
Again, not an issue on incremental updates like 9.0 update from 9.0.1.

   Cheers, Ronni 
  13-INCH MACBOOK AIR (APRIL 2014)
1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz 8GB 1600MHz
LPDDR3 SDRAM
512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage  
OS X El Capitan  10.11   
 On 28 Oct 2015, at 12:05 PM, petercr...@westnet.com.au [4] wrote: 
Yes, I have noted the same phenomenon and have wondered why. Now, I
wait for Ronni's "all clear" before doing the download and always use
the WiFI option. There is no apparent downside to doing it this way -
always. 
 Pete 

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 From: wamug@wamug.org.au [5]  
To:"WAMUG List" 
Cc: 
Sent:Wed, 28 Oct 2015 11:58:10 +0800
Subject:iOS9 downloads

 Why are downloads via iTunes on iOS devices so unbelievably slow?  
I usually do them wirelessly but today by some quirk I decided to do
my iPad mini while plugged in to iTunes.  After what seemed an
interminable wait I interrogated the download viewer and was told
there were 12 hours still to go.  I unplugged and went to wifi and
all completed in the normal sort of time.  Why is this? Severin Crisp
   
              ASSOC PROF R SEVERIN CRISP, FAIP, FIP, CPHYS 15
Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia        
          ph (08) 9842 1950 ( Int'l +61 8 9842 1950)        
                   mail to: sevcr...@westnet.com.au [7] 


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Re: iOS9 downloads

[petercrisp]

Thanks Ronni for clarifying that. Makes sense. Generally I make sure i
do a Backup of my iOS devices to iTunes prior to an iOS minor update
(within version release) and Transfer Purchases made since last
Backup. Once that's done I unplug and then update OTA. Been trouble
free for many updates so far.
What I would like to know is how can I arrange updates for the 8 iOS
devices in my household (all using the one AppleID) but synchronised
with 5 respective iTunes instances on those relevant MBP's without
downloading the update file 8 times - and similarly for OSX (for the
5MBP's). Can I put the update file on the network and pick it up at
each MBP and place strategically in Finder to allow the update to
happen on the other machines?
Pete.

- Original Message -
From: wamug@wamug.org.au
To:"WAMUG" 
Cc:
Sent:Wed, 28 Oct 2015 13:22:41 +0800
Subject:Re: iOS9 downloads

 Hi Severin & Peter,
   At first approximation they are the same, _BUT THE MECHANISM OF THE
UPDATE IS DIFFERENT SINCE ONE CAN BE A DELTA AND SELF-APPLIED UPDATE
AND THE OTHER INSTALLS A COMPLETE BUILD RATHER THAN PATCHING THE OS._ 

 The OTA (Over The Air) update implies the OS and device is working
properly, so iTunes is a good bet if you really want to ensure the
update goes well or want to put the device into Recovery mode to
ensure the new OS and only the new OS is written.  Obviously, if the
device is having problems, you should opt for iTunes to control the
update rather than hoping the device installs the patch properly. 
  iTunes downloads a several hundred megabyte IPSW file that can be
used to do a more complete “Restore" if needed.  It is the
“Restore" that will reformat the filesystem etc. 
 Assuming your device is working well, you can safely update OTA
(plugged into power) and in many cases - the download is a delta
update that is smaller than the entire image if you are doing an
update that isn't a major version (8.0 or 9.0) 
 Using iTunes also gives you a chance to transfer purchases and reduce
the number of apps you will have to re-download after a major update.
Again, not an issue on incremental updates like 9.0 update from 9.0.1.

   Cheers, Ronni 
  13-INCH MACBOOK AIR (APRIL 2014)
1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz 8GB 1600MHz
LPDDR3 SDRAM
512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage  
OS X El Capitan  10.11   
 On 28 Oct 2015, at 12:05 PM, petercr...@westnet.com.au [1] wrote: 
Yes, I have noted the same phenomenon and have wondered why. Now, I
wait for Ronni's "all clear" before doing the download and always use
the WiFI option. There is no apparent downside to doing it this way -
always. 
 Pete. 

- Original Message -
 From: wamug@wamug.org.au [2]  
To:"WAMUG List" 
Cc: 
Sent:Wed, 28 Oct 2015 11:58:10 +0800
Subject:iOS9 downloads

 Why are downloads via iTunes on iOS devices so unbelievably slow?  
I usually do them wirelessly but today by some quirk I decided to do
my iPad mini while plugged in to iTunes.  After what seemed an
interminable wait I interrogated the download viewer and was told
there were 12 hours still to go.  I unplugged and went to wifi and
all completed in the normal sort of time.  Why is this? Severin Crisp
   
              ASSOC PROF R SEVERIN CRISP, FAIP, FIP, CPHYS 15
Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia        
          ph (08) 9842 1950 ( Int'l +61 8 9842 1950)        
                   mail to: sevcr...@westnet.com.au [4]

 

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Re: iOS9 downloads

[petercrisp]

Yes, I have noted the same phenomenon and have wondered why. Now, I
wait for Ronni's "all clear" before doing the download and always use
the WiFI option. There is no apparent downside to doing it this way -
always. 
Pete. 

- Original Message -
From: wamug@wamug.org.au
To:"WAMUG List" 
Cc:
Sent:Wed, 28 Oct 2015 11:58:10 +0800
Subject:iOS9 downloads

 Why are downloads via iTunes on iOS devices so unbelievably slow?  
I usually do them wirelessly but today by some quirk I decided to do
my iPad mini while plugged in to iTunes.  After what seemed an
interminable wait I interrogated the download viewer and was told
there were 12 hours still to go.  I unplugged and went to wifi and
all completed in the normal sort of time.  Why is this? Severin Crisp
   
              ASSOC PROF R SEVERIN CRISP, FAIP, FIP, CPHYS 15
Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia        
          ph (08) 9842 1950 ( Int'l +61 8 9842 1950)        
                   mail to: sevcr...@westnet.com.au [1]
 

 

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Re: How to convert a POP email account to IMAP

[petercrisp]

G'day Neil and Michael, I was momentarily puzzled when establishing
the IMAP accounts on my IOS devices. The option to choose IMAP or POP
does not present until you go to enter the Outgoing server details. if
you scroll to the top of that screen, at the top are the push buttons
for IMAP OR POP. The account set up process on iOS seems to ask for
Incoming server details first, whereupon entering that a "Verify"
operation occurs. Following that - and for some reason my iphone  had
defaulted to self nomiating a Bigpond outgoing server (I am Westnet)
and perhaps as a result of the FAIL it provided me the choice at that
point to select IMAP. I had not been aware of this prior to the other
day when I was making the changes across my devices per the thread
below.
So to answer Michael's question below, yes you have the choice in the
setup phase in iOS to select IMAP or POP and also Westnet do
accommodate this account type.
Having now made the change to IMAP and used in that way for a couple
of days, I am kicking myself for not knowing why I tolerated for so
long deleting stuff in 3 places as the POP configuration requires.
Pete.

- Original Message -
From: wamug@wamug.org.au
To:"WAMUG" 
Cc:
Sent:Fri, 16 Oct 2015 10:50:53 +0800
Subject:Re: How to convert a POP email account to IMAP

 Hi Michael,

 It's not that mail in iOS can't handle POP accounts - I do have a
number of
 POP accounts on my iPhone, though they would all have been set-up
under
 earlier iOS versions.

 The problem was setting up a new email account with an internode
email
 address. As soon as I input the mail server and password (before I've
 finished setting up the account) it goes to "verifying" and then
comes back
 set as IMAP - I can then finish setting up (setting description, etc)
and
 have the option of saving or cancelling. Cancelling looses every
thing and
 you have to start all over again - save and the account is all
set-up.

 Nowhere does there seem to be an option to choose between POP and
IMAP.

 My iPhone4 came with iOS 4 and is limited to iOS 7. I am currently
running
 the terminal update for my phone which is iOS 7.1.2

 As I say, the POP accounts would have been set-up pre iOS 7 - so I
don't
 know if the problem is with the upgraded iOS or just something
different
 about the internode email set-up.

 However, the same email address is accessed by POP accounts on at
least 3
 computers - all running SL ;o) - so I now think the internode email
is not
 the problem.

 It seems more likely that it is down to changes in iOS and Apple
deciding
 that it knows better than we do how we want things set-up :o((

 Of course, I'd be happy to be proved wrong if anyone could point me
to the
 hidden IMAP/POP switch anywhere in the settings ;o)

 Cheers

 Neil
 -- 
 Neil R. Houghton
 Albany, Western Australia
 Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
 Email: n...@possumology.com

 on 16/10/15 2:37, Michael Hawkins at michaelhawk...@mjhawkins.com.au
wrote:

 > If IMAP is the default setting for IOS on each Apple device, can it
be
 > over-ridden and POP specified instead?
 > I use Westnet as ISP
 > I read emails on my laptop and on my iPhone either by logging in
through Mail
 > on my Apple devices or by using webmail on whatever computer I
could lay my
 > hands on, whether it be mine or a total strangers.
 > 
 > Found it very useful to be able to clean out emails by accessing
Mail from
 > iPhone, selecting each email I wanted to delete by ticking box,
then pressing
 > delete. Result was no longer appeared in my laptop and no longer
appeared if
 > logged onto webmail.
 > (Same result if deleted email when logged on in Mail using laptop -
if deleted
 > from laptop also deleted from iPhone and Server).
 > From time to time access email by using webmail, in which case
deleting email
 > meant it did not show up if I subsequently checked email by using
laptop or by
 > using iPhone.
 > 
 > I think possible results are
 > (A) delete email on every one of Apple devices I use to check
emails via Mail
 > if deleted on server
 > (B) delete email on Server when it is deleted on Apple device used
to check
 > emails
 > (C) remain on Server if deleted on Apple device, so email still
available on
 > other devices used to check emails
 > (D) deleted on Server and not accessible on any device if deleted
by using
 > webmail
 > (E) remain accessible in deleted email box until specifically
deleted from
 > deleted email box.
 > 
 > Assuming my list of possibilities is complete, what are the
possible
 > permutations? Can Server be set to IMAP, laptop be set to POP and
iPhone be
 > set to IMAP, or must each setting on each device be the same if
emails are
 > checked using an iOS device?
 > 
 > Do deletion permutations vary depending upon whether POP or IMAP is
selected
 > on ISP server?
 > 
 > Thank you,
 > 
 > Michael Hawkins
 > Sent from my iPhone
 > 
 >> On 14 Oct 2015, at 9:40 PM, Rob Phillips  wrote:
 >> 
 >> I guess this should all work, as long as you don't get one of your
POP
 >> 

Re: How to convert a POP email account to IMAP

[petercrisp]

No problem, at least you got there in the end. Enjoy your new IMAP
config.
Regards
Pete. 

- Original Message -
From: wamug@wamug.org.au
To:"List WAMUG Mailing" 
Cc:
Sent:Fri, 16 Oct 2015 12:15:01 +0800
Subject:Re: How to convert a POP email account to IMAP

 Hello Peter and Neil,
 Thank you for responding. Rather than blunder my way through written
instructions from iinet/Westnet I’ve taken the easy way out and
everything was sorted out during a phone consultation with a
Westnet/Iinet fellow in Melbourne who was able to access my computer
through LMIRescue.  
 I’ve been with iinet/Westnet for 19 years or so and was on a legacy
system. I’m now on a new much cheaper system for emails and my
iPhone has been set up to use IMAP rather than POP. 
 So far life is much simpler. 
 Cheers, 
 Michael. Yosemite 10.10.5 Mail 8.2 

 On 16 Oct 2015, at 11:35 am,   wrote: 
 G'day Neil and Michael, I was momentarily puzzled when establishing
the IMAP accounts on my IOS devices. The option to choose IMAP or POP
does not present until you go to enter the Outgoing server details. if
you scroll to the top of that screen, at the top are the push buttons
for IMAP OR POP. The account set up process on iOS seems to ask for
Incoming server details first, whereupon entering that a "Verify"
operation occurs. Following that - and for some reason my iPhone  had
defaulted to self nominating a Bigpond outgoing server (I am Westnet)
and perhaps as a result of the FAIL it provided me the choice at that
point to select IMAP. I had not been aware of this prior to the other
day when I was making the changes across my devices per the thread
below.
 So to answer Michael's question below, yes you have the choice in the
setup phase in iOS to select IMAP or POP and also Westnet do
accommodate this account type. 
 Having now made the change to IMAP and used in that way for a couple
of days, I am kicking myself for not knowing why I tolerated for so
long deleting stuff in 3 places as the POP configuration requires. 
 Pete.

- Original Message -
 From: wamug@wamug.org.au [3]  
To:"WAMUG" 
Cc: 
Sent:Fri, 16 Oct 2015 10:50:53 +0800
Subject:Re: How to convert a POP email account to IMAP

 Hi Michael,

 It's not that mail in iOS can't handle POP accounts - I do have a
number of
 POP accounts on my iPhone, though they would all have been set-up
under
 earlier iOS versions.

 The problem was setting up a new email account with an internode
email
 address. As soon as I input the mail server and password (before I've
 finished setting up the account) it goes to "verifying" and then
comes back
 set as IMAP - I can then finish setting up (setting description, etc)
and
 have the option of saving or cancelling. Cancelling looses every
thing and
 you have to start all over again - save and the account is all
set-up.

 Nowhere does there seem to be an option to choose between POP and
IMAP.

 My iPhone4 came with iOS 4 and is limited to iOS 7. I am currently
running
 the terminal update for my phone which is iOS 7.1.2

 As I say, the POP accounts would have been set-up pre iOS 7 - so I
don't
 know if the problem is with the upgraded iOS or just something
different
 about the internode email set-up.

 However, the same email address is accessed by POP accounts on at
least 3
 computers - all running SL ;o) - so I now think the internode email
is not
 the problem.

 It seems more likely that it is down to changes in iOS and Apple
deciding
 that it knows better than we do how we want things set-up :o((

 Of course, I'd be happy to be proved wrong if anyone could point me
to the
 hidden IMAP/POP switch anywhere in the settings ;o)

 Cheers

 Neil
 -- 
 Neil R. Houghton
 Albany, Western Australia
 Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
 Email: n...@possumology.com [5]

 on 16/10/15 2:37, Michael Hawkins at michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au
[6] wrote:

 > If IMAP is the default setting for IOS on each Apple device, can it
be
 > over-ridden and POP specified instead?
 > I use Westnet as ISP
 > I read emails on my laptop and on my iPhone either by logging in
through Mail
 > on my Apple devices or by using webmail on whatever computer I
could lay my
 > hands on, whether it be mine or a total strangers.
 > 
 > Found it very useful to be able to clean out emails by accessing
Mail from
 > iPhone, selecting each email I wanted to delete by ticking box,
then pressing
 > delete. Result was no longer appeared in my laptop and no longer
appeared if
 > logged onto webmail.
 > (Same result if deleted email when logged on in Mail using laptop -
if deleted
 > from laptop also deleted from iPhone and Server).
 > From time to time access email by using webmail, in which case
deleting email
 > meant it did not show up if I subsequently checked email by using
laptop or by
 > using iPhone.
 > 
 > I think possible results are
 > (A) delete email on every one of Apple devices I use to check
emails via Mail
 > if deleted on server
 > (B) delete email on Server when it is deleted on Apple device 

Re: How to convert a POP email account to IMAP

[petercrisp]

Hi Rob, thanks for the suggestion. The process in Mail to go from POP
to IMAP requires establishment of a new account, you;re unable to just
change the server address as the Account Type (POP) is superior to
that. Unfortunately I am unable to get past the first dialogue where
entry of the account detail (Name, email address and password) are
required before getting to selecting IMAP/POP and server details. That
is the problem I have. I have altered the Name and password of the
account from the disabled account detail (no point changing the email
address as the old address is MY address) and still no joy. Might have
to ring Apple or chat.
Thanks.
Pete.

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From: wamug@wamug.org.au
To:
Cc:
Sent:Tue, 13 Oct 2015 22:03:09 +0800
Subject:Re: How to convert a POP email account to IMAP

I use Thunderbird not Mail, but have you changed the mail server
address? It should be something like imap.westnet.com.au, instead of
pop.westnet.com.au.

 Hope this helps.
 Rob

 On 13/10/2015 8:13 pm, Peter Crisp wrote:
  Hi, have any of you done the below process of moving from a POP Mail
account to an IMAP account? I tried again and I get the same result as
below here. Not able to Create a new account as Mail simple re-enables
the account I disabled.  
 Regards 
 Pete... 

  On 12 Oct 2015, at 9:16 pm, Peter Crisp <
[1]petercr...@westnet.com.au [2]> wrote: 
  Hi folks, I am getting a moment to make this change to my westnet
account from POP to IMAP. The text (in different font) below is that
from a previous thread on the topic back in Feb 2014. I am running
V8.2 Mail and OS X 10.10.5. Maybe Mail is a little different now and
the instructions altered or maybe I am doing something wrong. I’ve
made the copy of Inbox and Sent items into temp folders “On My
MAC”. Then I uncheck the Enable button in my current account. No
problem to here.  
 Then I choose Mail > Add Account and select “Add other Mail
account”. This is where I am unsure. I used the same account name,
email address and password (as I am trying to change to IMAP) as
current account and once I select Create, it simply enables the
existing account which I just disabled. Perhaps this is not
unexpected. I tried a different password and account name (same email
address) - same thing - re-enables the existing disabled account. 
 What am I doing wrong or is the procedure different in 8.2? 
 For the moment I have re-enabled my Mail so I can still use it for
this. 
 Regards 
 Pete. 

Hi Laura, I have cc'd your iinet & Laura Webb  addresses, so
hopefully you receive at least one of them. 

Step 2. is VERY IMPORTANT: To avoid any potential disasters, save all
the messages you have on your Mac to a different mailbox before you
convert to IMAP. How to convert a POP email account to IMAP Most email
providers let you choose between two ways to get your messages. You
can have a POP (Post Office Protocol) account that downloads all your
messages to your Mac, iPhone or iPad. Or, you can have an IMAP
(Internet Message Access Protocol) account that leaves some or all of
your messages up on the mail server so you can access them from any
device. For example, with a POP account, if you check email on your
iPhone, the messages downloaded there will only be there; when you get
back to your Mac, you won’t see them in your inbox. With IMAP,
they’ll be on all your devices. If you’ve been using a POP
account, but have grown frustrated with inaccessible messages, you can
usually convert your account to IMAP Most hosting companies and
providers offer both options. However, making this conversion requires
that you take precautions so you don’t lose any messages. Here’s
how to make the switch safely: 1. Check with your email host If you
manage your email account yourself, check on your hosting company’s
dashboard to make sure you can use IMAP. (It’s very rare that this
is not available.) If you get email through your business or school,
check with the IT department. Find out what settings you will need to
access your email as an IMAP account, and whether anything needs to be
changed on the server side. If you use Gmail, this help page will tell
you how to change your Gmail account from POP to IMAP. (You have to
enable IMAP on the Gmail website.) 2. Protect the message you’ve
already downloaded To avoid any potential disasters, save all the
messages you have on your Mac to a different mailbox before you
convert to IMAP. IMAP stores some or all of your email on the mail
server. The problem is, this means that any folders that are on your
Mac may get overwritten, or deleted, if you don’t save their
messages before making the switch. So, in Mail, choose Mailbox -> New
Mailbox, and, with the location as On My Mac, create a new mailbox.
Call it something like My Old Inbox. When you’ve done this, move all
the messages currently in your Inbox to this folder. Do the same for
your Sent Mail folder, and any Drafts you may have. Once this is done,
you can change the 

Re: Verification

[petercrisp]

I'm going off my poor memory from this morning now Ronni, it looked
like the usual little box which pops up when you enter your AppleID
for buying an App. It may have said iTunes but I can't recall now.
Regards
Pete.

- Original Message -
From: wamug@wamug.org.au
To:"wamug@wamug.org.au" 
Cc:
Sent:Wed, 16 Sep 2015 15:22:53 +0800
Subject:Re: Verification

  What exactly is the message Window... Is it a Window with iTunes
logo & message Sign-In Required? Or a Window message 'your iCloud
session has expired'? 
 There's been a few weird Apple messages appearing since iTunes 12.2.2
update.

Cheers, Ronni 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4 

On 16 Sep 2015, at 1:39 pm, petercr...@westnet.com.au [1] wrote:

 That's funny, I had the same thing this morning too but put it down
to my tinkering with my bonjour service last night to finally get my
printer up and running. Maybe this was an Apple thing non related to
my bonjour thing.
 Anyone else have the same today? 
 iOS 9 out tonight/tomorrow and maybe this was a precursor step in
readiness for that. 
 Regards 
 PC.

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Subject:Verification

 I have recently started to have a daily request it input my Apple ID
password, used only to come up rarely.  iMac, Yosemite 10.10.5, iPad,
Macbook Severin Crisp
   
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Re: Verification

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That's funny, I had the same thing this morning too but put it down to
my tinkering with my bonjour service last night to finally get my
printer up and running. Maybe this was an Apple thing non related to
my bonjour thing.
Anyone else have the same today?
iOS 9 out tonight/tomorrow and maybe this was a precursor step in
readiness for that.
Regards
PC.

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Subject:Verification

 I have recently started to have a daily request it input my Apple ID
password, used only to come up rarely.  iMac, Yosemite 10.10.5, iPad,
Macbook Severin Crisp
   
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Re: Epson printer network visibility

[petercrisp]

 Thanks Ronni, see comments alongside below.
You're sure you have the latest Printer drivers installed? I figured
when I did the online installation and registration the driver update
would have occured. I suppose it's possible that didn't happen so will
ensure tonight.Epson WF-4630 Series. Is the Wi-Fi icon ON the
product's control panel? YesYour Airport Wireless Network is a
Dual-Band 5GHz & 2.5GHz? Yes - on the LCD panel for the printer, the
network SSID appears twice with both ticked.
When you click on " [+] then 'Add Printer or Scanner' , does it open
up the Default window - Name: Location: Use:? When I click the "+",
the Add window opens up. There are no printers listed in the Default
window.Can you type the Epson Printer name in Search field and find
the Printer that way? Not tried this but I will.Can you Add the
Printer using its IP Address or Name? Yes, In the IP screen I can add
it that way and then it will print - however the IP gets reassigned
whenever network rebooted - usually for non related reasons.And you
have 'Printer Sharing' turned ON in System Preferences > Sharing? Not
sure - will check tonight.Does the Epson printer show in Sharing under
Printers:? Will check tonight.
On your Printer LCD settings - Print a NETWORK STATUS SHEET.If it's
similar to my Epson TX810FW1. Enter the Setup mode.
2. Select Network Settings.
3. Select Confirm Network Settings
4. Confirm the connection status. If you want to print status sheet,
press Start.That will show you the Network settings details and give
you a clue. Yes, I did this and it all appeared good - no errors
noted, IP was assigned OK, SSID was correctly noted. Will review again
tonight.
Have you tried 'Reset' the entire print system? Sometimes it’s
necessary to reset the entire printing system. Yes,I did this as well
last night to no avail.From the Printers & Scanners preferences, use
secondary (Control-click) in the printers list (left panel), and
choose “RESET PRINTING SYSTEM” from the shortcut menu. Click OK
in the verification dialog. Next you’ll have to authenticate as an
administrative user. 
This clears all configured devices, shared settings, custom presets,
and queued print jobs. While this may seem drastic, it’s likely to
clear up any software-related printing issues.
Then try to Add the Epson WF-4630 Series printer. After the reset, I
tried this again, from my own and my wifes MBP, again with no
visibility.
There are some new things to try in what you provided here, thanks
again Ronni for detailed items on this. I hope I sort it tonight - I'm
sure the printer wont work if I end up tossing it into the pool! Just
kidding.
Regards
Pete...

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Sent:Sun, 13 Sep 2015 23:46:15 +0800
Subject:Re: Epson printer network visibility

 Hi Peter,
 You're sure you have the latest Printer drivers installed?    Epson
WF-4630 Series.   Is the Wi-Fi icon ON the product's control panel?
Your Airport Wireless Network is a Dual-Band 5GHz & 2.5GHz? 
 When you click on " [+] then 'Add Printer or Scanner' , does it open
up the Default window - Name: Location: Use:? Can you type the Epson
Printer name in Search field and find the Printer that way? Can you
Add the Printer using its IP Address or Name? And you have 'Printer
Sharing' turned ON in System Preferences > Sharing? Does the Epson
printer show in Sharing under Printers:? 
  On your Printer LCD settings - Print a NETWORK STATUS SHEET. If
it's similar to my Epson TX810FW 1. Enter the Setup mode.
2. Select Network Settings.
3. Select Confirm Network Settings
4. Confirm the connection status. If you want to print status sheet,
press Start.  That will show you the Network settings details and give
you a clue. 
 Have you tried 'Reset' the entire print system? Sometimes it’s
necessary to reset the entire printing system.   From the Printers &
Scanners preferences, use secondary (Control-click) in the printers
list (left panel), and choose “RESET PRINTING SYSTEM” from the
shortcut menu.  Click OK in the verification dialog.  Next you’ll
have to authenticate as an administrative user.  
 This clears all configured devices, shared settings, custom presets,
and queued print jobs  While this may seem drastic, it’s likely to
clear up any software-related printing issues. 
 Then try to Add the Epson WF-4630 Series printer. 

 Cheers,   Ronni 
  13-INCH MACBOOK AIR (APRIL 2014)
1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz 8GB 1600MHz
LPDDR3 SDRAM
512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage  
OS X Yosemite 10.10.2   
 On 13 Sep 2015, at 8:35 pm, Peter Crisp  wrote: 
  Hi Ronni, back home now. Incidentally while I was in Albany I tested
my MBP on Sev’s network and straight up it spotted his Fuji printer
in my “Add” panel. 
 So on my MBP and my wife's MBP I have fully run through the Epson
installation process each time it completed successfully and said
“go to System Preferences and select Printers and Scanners and then
“+””. So I do that and the Add panel 

Re: Advice please

[petercrisp]

Telstra do a pocket sized 4G device which can accommodate up to 10
devices I think they said. Have a look at the Telstra web site and
look at  this URL.
http://www.dicksmith.com.au/networking-wireless/telstra-prepaid-4g-wifi-mf910-dsau-eb5042?CAWELAID=12014697216647catargetid=12014697223542cadevice=cgclid=Cj0KEQjw-46sBRD7x6P0stibwbsBEiQAoMi4Zvp2RO75mexo7SZStfE1U3SwCUOgXequ7SoxEcKYWdQaAjjA8P8HAQ

Pete

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Subject:Advice please

 I am secretary of the Albany Summer and also web manager and de-facto
IT adviser.   The school runs for two weeks each January with 6 - 700
students for 50 odd courses (www.albanysummerschool.com.au [1]  could
not miss the chance of a free plug!).   We are excellently hosted by
St Joseph’s College and have the use of their class computer setups
with master display etc.  However, we are not permitted access to the
on site internet.  We would like to run a course on the iPad, for
users, and can not be sure they will all have 4G access.  I am
seeking help on purchasing wireless connectivity to, say, 15 iPads
that talks to the internet by (multiplexed?) 4G.  I have not been
able to match this wish to what I can see on the internet, in some
measure due to my own lack of experience.    At times outside of the
Summer School the device will have a function as a single user
connection.  Can anyone please advise? Severin We have in the past
used a single USB dongle and laptop for mobile broadband one committee
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External drive backup restore

[petercrisp]

Good evening, I use an external drive to hold my iTunes and Photos
library. I have explicitly selected in Time Machine 'Options' to
include the external drive in the hourly backup process with Time
Machine so the backup file first time around was quite large (~650GB)
and took a long while. 
I dont actually have a problem currently but if my external drive were
to fail or get lost or stolen, how would I reinstate the contents
within the backup file of the external drive to a NEW external drive
and restore the status quo?
I've never once restored a file from TM (though I am well practiced at
deleting the Sparsebundle backup file!!) so not familiar with the
process anyway but I am keen to understand how I would restore the
external drive associated files (either singly (say my Photos library
file) or the drive in total).
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External drive included in Time Machine Backup

[petercrisp]

Good morning, I use an external drive to hold my iTunes and Photos
library. I have explicitly selected in 'Options' to include the
external drive in the hourly backup process with Time Machine so the
backup file first time around was quite large (~650GB) and took a long
while. 
I dont actually have a problem currently but if my external drive were
to fail or get lost or stolen, how would I reinstate the contents
within the backup file of the external drive to a NEW external drive
and restore the status quo?
I've never once restored a file from TM (though I am well practiced at
deleting the Sparsebundle backup file!!) so not familiar with the
process anyway but I am keen to understand how I would restore the
external drive associated files (either singly (say my Photos library
file) or the drive in total).
Regards
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Re: Photos start up time

[petercrisp]

Good evening, I ran the Repair process (Hold Command + Option while
starting Photos) and it seems to have halved the start up time. Before
the Repair, start up time was 25.00 seconds.After the Repair
operation, Photos now takes 12 seconds to open up ready for use. I'm
happy with that but others may be less tolerant. I do believe it is
library size dependant but the Repair seems to have made a marked
improvement to a library which had only 3 weeks prior been created and
hardly used in the interim.
Regards
Pete.

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Subject:Re: Photos start up time

 Yes, it was my suspicion that it was the library size that results in
the slower opening time. My library is over 250GB (37,000+ photos and
1300+ videos). I'm sure there are others out there with same or
larger. I will do the Command+Option operation this eve and report
findings. Will do a before and after test of opening time.
 Regards 
 Pete.   

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Subject:Re: Photos start up time

 Is it related to the size of your library?    My photos are in
about 20 separate libraries and there is a significant difference in
opening time for larger libraries.  Dad  
 On 23 May 2015, at 5:37 am, Peter Crisp  wrote: 
Ok, thanks will try that tonight Ronni. 
 Regards 
 Pete.  

 Original message  From: Ronda Brown @mac.com
Date:22/05/2015 22:38 (GMT+08:00)  To: wamug@wamug.org.au [2] 
Subject: Re: Photos start up time  
 Hi Peter, 
 As Stephen has mentioned Photos for Mac is faster/speedier than
previous iPhoto. I have found it noticeably faster.  
Launch Photos with the COMMAND+OPTION keys held down and repair the
library.  Then check to see if there's any improvement with
performance. 
 Cheers, Ronni 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4 

On 22 May 2015, at 10:02 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:

  Sorry Peter but mine seems quite fast to open. In fact I just timed
it at about 3 seconds. May be some other reason for the slow start ! 

 On 22 May 2015, at 9:09 pm, Peter Crisp  wrote: 
Good evening, I had a successful migration for iPhoto to Photos on my
MBP a few weeks back. Ive noticed that the start up of Photos is quite
slow. It always does open just a bit slow compared to how iPhoto used
to.

I like the program though editing still a bit limited but still some
good features. No doubt there will be enhancements in future
iterations of it.

Has anyone else noticed the slow start up or is this my imagination?

Regards

Pete
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Re: Photos start up time

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Yes, it was my suspicion that it was the library size that results in
the slower opening time. My library is over 250GB (37,000+ photos and
1300+ videos). I'm sure there are others out there with same or
larger I will do the Command+Option operation this eve and report
findings. Will do a before and after test of opening time.
Regards
Pete. 

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Subject:Re: Photos start up time

 Is it related to the size of your library?    My photos are in
about 20 separate libraries and there is a significant difference in
opening time for larger libraries.  Dad  
 On 23 May 2015, at 5:37 am, Peter Crisp  wrote: 
Ok, thanks will try that tonight Ronni. 
 Regards 
 Pete.  

 Original message  From: Ronda Brown @mac.com
Date:22/05/2015 22:38 (GMT+08:00)  To: wamug@wamug.org.au [2] 
Subject: Re: Photos start up time  
 Hi Peter, 
 As Stephen has mentioned Photos for Mac is faster/speedier than
previous iPhoto. I have found it noticeably faster.  
Launch Photos with the COMMAND+OPTION keys held down and repair the
library.  Then check to see if there's any improvement with
performance. 
 Cheers, Ronni 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4 

On 22 May 2015, at 10:02 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:

  Sorry Peter but mine seems quite fast to open. In fact I just timed
it at about 3 seconds. May be some other reason for the slow start ! 

 On 22 May 2015, at 9:09 pm, Peter Crisp  wrote: 
Good evening, I had a successful migration for iPhoto to Photos on my
MBP a few weeks back. Ive noticed that the start up of Photos is quite
slow. It always does open just a bit slow compared to how iPhoto used
to.

I like the program though editing still a bit limited but still some
good features. No doubt there will be enhancements in future
iterations of it.

Has anyone else noticed the slow start up or is this my imagination?

Regards

Pete
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Re: iPhoto to Photos migration

[petercrisp]

Hi Ronni, yes, my responses are following the running of the test's on
my wife's MBP.  
The version of iPhotos is V 9.6.1.
Regards
Pete.

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Subject:Re: iPhoto to Photos migration

Hi Peter, 
 Just two very quick questions. 1. Have all the steps from my first
reply to last reply that I've asked you to do been carried out on your
'Wife's MBP'?  It wasn't until my last reply that you mentioned you
were doing the steps on your MBP from copies of your Wife's iPhoto 
Photos Library files. 
 Everything I've suggested needs to be done on your wife's MBP where
the Library's are located as I mentioned below. 
 2. What is the version of iPhoto.app on her MBP - is it iPhoto v
9.6.1? 
 Cheers, Ronni

Sent from Ronni's iPad4 

On 3 May 2015, at 8:02 pm, Peter Crisp  wrote:

  Hi Ronni, apologies for slow response, been hard to remotely get
wife to do these tests. Below are the results of the two tests. 
 The result of test E) Dialogue box pops up saying Update Aperture to
3.3 . I don't have Aperture and when I selected to do the update
to Aperture, the app store says Not available on the Australian
store.  
 Result of test F) The Library could not be opened. The library
iPhoto library could not be recognised

Regards

 Pete   
On 27 Apr 2015, at 9:22 pm, Ronda Brown  wrote:

  Hi Peter, 
 My comments in situ 
 On 27 Apr 2015, at 8:45 pm, Peter Crisp  wrote:

  Yes, see responses below in red. Note, I do not have my wifes MBP
with me, I only have a copy of the two Library files (iPhoto and
Photos). I am doing this trialing on my MBP Retina - which I did
successfully upgrade to 10.10.3 and also successfully set up Photos. 
 
The suggestions and steps I've given you need to be carried out by
your Wife on her MBP.Not your MBP! You already have set up Photos on
your MBP, so your Photos  iPhoto libraries would have the same
titles...

 On 27 Apr 2015, at 5:18 pm, Ronni Brown  wrote: 
 Thanks Peter for answering my questions. 
 On 27 Apr 2015, at 1:26 pm, petercr...@westnet.com.au [5] wrote: 

Answers to your questions here below. 
  A). ON YOUR WIFE'S MBP  IN HER USER HOME FOLDER  PICTURES - THERE
ARE THESE TWO FILES IPHOTO LIBRARY.MIGRATEDPHOTOLIBARY” and
 PHOTOS LIBRARY.PHOTOSLIBRARY… Is this correct? Yes, this is
correct.  B). And your wife's MBP only has ONE iPhoto Library on her
system... is this correct? Yes, this is correct.  C). And when you
try to open PHOTOS on her MBP it doesn’t open... is this correct -
or what happens? When I press Photos on the toolbar, the Photos
application opens up at the new user screen indicating the 4 options.
But no images appear when selected on the Photos tab. When Albums
tab is selected, the Events folders from iPhoto are shown greyed out
with no photographs within the folders. I did not select Use iCloud, I
never do. I presume you mean when you open Photos from the Dock?
Yes I mean Dock, sorry that’s the unfortunate byproduct of being sat
in front of a Windows machine all day.  
 OK, has your wife tried the suggestions below yet? 
  D) ON HER MBP - If she double-clicks on the  PHOTOS
LIBRARY.PHOTOSLIBRARY” (in her Home  Pictures folder) does it open
in PHOTOS? Yes, Photos opens properly and sits with no photos showing
(when Photos Tab selected) but the 4 options of what to do for a new
user. As I noted prior, when I select the “Albums” tab, it shows
in grey form the panels reflecting the Events as was the case in
iPhoto previously.   
If PHOTOS app opens don’t go any further with my
suggestions... Sorry I meant don't go any further if PHOTOS opens and
everything looks correct in Photos. If not please continue.So please
ask your wife to continue and do step E)  if necessary step F)

 If Photos app DOESN’T open continue with suggestions below  
  E) ON HER MBP - If she double-clicks on IPHOTO
LIBRARY.MIGRATEDPHOTOLIBRARY” (in her Home  Pictures folder) does
it open in PHOTOS?  By doing this - If it has completed the preparing
 migration you will receive a dialog window saying:
--
 “YOUR PHOTO LIBRARY HAS BEEN MIGRATED TO PHOTOS.”  You can open
it in iPhoto, but any changes such as editing or adding new photos
will not appear in the Photos app.  Your options will be ‘Quit’
- ‘Open iPhoto’ - and a BLUE ‘OPEN PHOTOS' - Click  the
BLUE ‘OPEN PHOTOS'
 If E)
doesn’t work try 
  F)_ Hold down the Option key as you open the PHOTOS app in the
Dock _to see the 'Choose Library dialog' window. Click '_OTHER
LIBRARY_'  Select the 'IPHOTO LIBRARY.MIGRATEDPHOTOLIBRARY' See if
that completes the ‘preparing for import’ 
 If none of the above sort out the Photos Library on your wife’s
MBP, we could try to Repairing the Photos Library. If Photos begins
misbehaving, Apple has provided the capability for Photos to repair
its own libraries. 
 From what 

Re: iPhoto to Photos migration

[petercrisp]

Thanks Peter, yes have tried that and unfortunately no good. Back at
the start of the thread i outlined these things. My iPhoto library is
in a transitional state that did not complete which has left both the
iPhoto library and the Photos library inaccessible. 
Regards

Pete.

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Sent:Mon, 4 May 2015 08:08:40 +0800
Subject:Re: iPhoto to Photos migration

 On 3 May 2015, at 8:02 pm, Peter Crisp  wrote: 
 Hi Ronni, apologies for slow response, been hard to remotely get wife
to do these tests. Below are the results of the two tests. 
 The result of test E) Dialogue box pops up saying Update Aperture to
3.3 . I don't have Aperture and when I selected to do the update
to Aperture, the app store says Not available on the Australian
store.  
 Result of test F) The Library could not be opened. The library
iPhoto library could not be recognised.

Regards

 Pete  

 You should still have a copy of iPhoto in your Applications folder.
Does this still open your iPhoto library (you may be asked by iPhoto
at launch which library file to use)?  
 Using iPhoto and Time Machine (if you’re using that) to revert to
a copy of the library which predates your Photos installation. 
  Peter Hinchliffe    Apwin Computer Services FileMaker Pro
Solutions Developer
Perth, Western Australia
Phone (618) 9332 6482    Mob 0403 046 948

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Re: iPhoto to Photos migration

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Ok, noted Ronni, thanks I will get her to do this and revert probably
later today.
Thanks again
Pete. 

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Sent:Mon, 27 Apr 2015 21:22:53 +0800
Subject:Re: iPhoto to Photos migration

Hi Peter, 
 My comments in situ 
 On 27 Apr 2015, at 8:45 pm, Peter Crisp  wrote:

  Yes, see responses below in red. Note, I do not have my wifes MBP
with me, I only have a copy of the two Library files (iPhoto and
Photos). I am doing this trialing on my MBP Retina - which I did
successfully upgrade to 10.10.3 and also successfully set up Photos. 
 
The suggestions and steps I've given you need to be carried out by
your Wife on her MBP.Not your MBP! You already have set up Photos on
your MBP, so your Photos  iPhoto libraries would have the same
titles...

 On 27 Apr 2015, at 5:18 pm, Ronni Brown  wrote: 
 Thanks Peter for answering my questions. 
 On 27 Apr 2015, at 1:26 pm, petercr...@westnet.com.au [3] wrote: 

Answers to your questions here below. 
  A). ON YOUR WIFE'S MBP  IN HER USER HOME FOLDER  PICTURES - THERE
ARE THESE TWO FILES IPHOTO LIBRARY.MIGRATEDPHOTOLIBARY” and
 PHOTOS LIBRARY.PHOTOSLIBRARY… Is this correct? Yes, this is
correct.  B). And your wife's MBP only has ONE iPhoto Library on her
system... is this correct? Yes, this is correct.  C). And when you
try to open PHOTOS on her MBP it doesn’t open... is this correct -
or what happens? When I press Photos on the toolbar, the Photos
application opens up at the new user screen indicating the 4 options.
But no images appear when selected on the Photos tab. When Albums
tab is selected, the Events folders from iPhoto are shown greyed out
with no photographs within the folders. I did not select Use iCloud, I
never do. I presume you mean when you open Photos from the Dock?
Yes I mean Dock, sorry that’s the unfortunate byproduct of being sat
in front of a Windows machine all day.  
 OK, has your wife tried the suggestions below yet? 
  D) ON HER MBP - If she double-clicks on the  PHOTOS
LIBRARY.PHOTOSLIBRARY” (in her Home  Pictures folder) does it open
in PHOTOS? Yes, Photos opens properly and sits with no photos showing
(when Photos Tab selected) but the 4 options of what to do for a new
user. As I noted prior, when I select the “Albums” tab, it shows
in grey form the panels reflecting the Events as was the case in
iPhoto previously.   
If PHOTOS app opens don’t go any further with my
suggestions... Sorry I meant don't go any further if PHOTOS opens and
everything looks correct in Photos. If not please continue.So please
ask your wife to continue and do step E)  if necessary step F)

 If Photos app DOESN’T open continue with suggestions below  
  E) ON HER MBP - If she double-clicks on IPHOTO
LIBRARY.MIGRATEDPHOTOLIBRARY” (in her Home  Pictures folder) does
it open in PHOTOS?  By doing this - If it has completed the preparing
 migration you will receive a dialog window saying:
--
 “YOUR PHOTO LIBRARY HAS BEEN MIGRATED TO PHOTOS.”  You can open
it in iPhoto, but any changes such as editing or adding new photos
will not appear in the Photos app.  Your options will be ‘Quit’
- ‘Open iPhoto’ - and a BLUE ‘OPEN PHOTOS' - Click  the
BLUE ‘OPEN PHOTOS'
 If E)
doesn’t work try 
  F)_ Hold down the Option key as you open the PHOTOS app in the
Dock _to see the 'Choose Library dialog' window. Click '_OTHER
LIBRARY_'  Select the 'IPHOTO LIBRARY.MIGRATEDPHOTOLIBRARY' See if
that completes the ‘preparing for import’ 
 If none of the above sort out the Photos Library on your wife’s
MBP, we could try to Repairing the Photos Library. If Photos begins
misbehaving, Apple has provided the capability for Photos to repair
its own libraries. 
 From what information you have given me, it indicates by the size of
each Library (the 'iPhoto Library' file  the 'Photos Library’
file), that all the Data appears to be there but for some reason not
visible. 
 I will send details how to ‘Repair the Photos Library’ if we do
find we need to try that. Seems I need to try a Repair Library.   
Not yet Peter and definitely not on your MBP. 
 Cheers, Ronni

 Cheers,
Ronni

17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Intel Quad-Core i7 
2.3GHz / 16GB / 1TB 840 EVO SSD

OS X Yosemite 10.10.3

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Re: iPhoto to Photos migration

[petercrisp]

Hi Ronni, yes I feel a real goose for the steps I took (in
hindsight). 
As I work away (and am away from home for a further 2 odd weeks), I
placed a copy of both (iPhoto and Photos) library files onto my 2TB
external drive and using my Retina MBP to try and unpick this mess
remotely from my Wifes MBP. A necessity as this happened the day prior
to my departure. 
So i have the two files iPhoto Library and Photos Library both
sitting within one folder on the external drive (each file is saying
around 295GB from Get Info but not identical sizes). They are also
still in place in the UserPhotos folder on my Wife's MBP as I
restored the iPhoto library from Trash using the Put Back command.
When I attempt to open the iPhoto library (using the Option key method
on my Retina), it reflects as IPHOTO
LIBRARY.MIGRATEDPHOTOLIBRARY. Which would suggest that the library
underwent the start of its transformation in readiness to be 'hard
linked' with the Photos library. But the transformation was never
completed.
I do not have a backup I can revert to at any stage prior to the
update - coz I blew away the Sparesebundle!
Pete.

- Original Message -
From: wamug@wamug.org.au
To:WAMUG 
Cc:
Sent:Sun, 26 Apr 2015 15:38:45 +0800
Subject:Re: iPhoto to Photos migration

 Hello Peter,
 Sounds like you have really messed up the transition/import of
 iPhoto Library to Photos... and then did a Time Machine backup
BEFORE testing everything was working correctly 
  The first time you launch Photos, it searches your system for iPhoto
and Aperture libraries. If only one library fits the bill, it imports
that library. Otherwise, it opens the Choose Library dialog window
 - Choose a library from the list, and Photos prepares the library
for import.  
 Photos needs to prepare your iPhoto Library before it imports into a
new Photos library. When you import an iPhoto library into Photos,
your existing library remains intact. The net result of the import is
that you’ll have two separate libraries on your Mac’s drive: your
old_ iPhoto library_ and a new _Photos library_.  
  The Import does NOT duplicate iPhoto Library but uses “Hard
Links. Your iPhoto Library remains intact, BUT a new Photos Library
comes into being.  The Libraries say they’re roughly the same size,
but in fact, they’re 'sharing disk space' via ‘hard links’. 
 After the successful transition ‘Migration' from iPhoto to Photos
you will have in your User  Pictures folder - 2 separate Libraries:
 IPHOTO LIBRARY.MIGRATEDPHOTOLIBRARY” AND “PHOTOS
LIBRARY.PHOTOSLIBRARY  
  On 25 Apr 2015, at 9:30 am, petercr...@westnet.com.au [1] wrote: 
Last week I updated my wife's 2012 MBP to latest OSX which brought the
new Photos application. I had done my own 2014 Retina MBP previously
without issue and have all my images carried over into Photos without
a hitch.
 The issue with my Wife's machine is I did the update and am unable to
see the images in Photos. I just get the intro screen with the 4
options for a new user. I've done the Option whilst starting it up
and directed it to the new Photo Library file and still nothing. The
Photo Library file shows in Get Info of 295GB so it would appear to be
a file containing the picture and video files but how do I access it? 
 An issue potentially caused by me was that after the update,  I ran
a cleaner (Cleanmymac) and it did some cleaning. I did in my travels
after the cleaning notice in the Trash can was the old iPhoto
Library!!! I assume this was an action of cleanmymac. So I selected
Put Back and it in turn is now placed alongside the Photos Library
in the default Apple folder location. 
 It was only after this that I opened Photos for the first time and I
suspect that upon first opening, it runs a script which does the
migration (but not duplication) of image files.   
Oh goodness... Yes, that is correct. The first time Photos is opened
(as I’ve mentioned above) the transition (Import from iPhoto) is
run. But you are saying your wife’s iPhoto Library was not in the
correct location in Pictures... but was sitting in the Trash!

 It gets worse - much worse I am afraid.  
I don’t want to read anymore :(

 During the update I turned Time Machine off to prevent unwanted
backups during the process of updating. I think this is a recommended
practice anyway. Well, after the dust settled (but before running
Photos) I turned TM back on and it goes through the Preparing Backup
routine for a looong while and then says Backing Up 325GB!!! I pressed
the cross to stop that and thought about it a bit. Running low on TM
disc space and having done this previously (and never once having had
to call upon the TM backup to retrieve anything in the 6 years of Mac
ownership) decided I would delete the Sparesebundle file and do a new
Backup from scratch . I suspect that the Preparing Backup routine
spotted the iPhoto Library in the Trash and the Photos library in its
normal home and detected there are two libraries to back up hence the
order of magnitude of 

Re: iPhoto to Photos migration

[petercrisp]

Thanks Ronni. I think I've cracked it.  I opened iPhoto with Option
held and selected Create New. I set a new location for the new
database library file. Once that was set up, I then selected Import
and pointed to the transitioning iPhoto Library that I've been
unable to open up in the conventional way. So last night it was able
to commence the import of the photos and i can see the images on
screen as it counts down. The transitioning Library was ~250GB and I
had no choice but to let it proceed when it asked confirm you have
enough disc space - I had ~750GB free on my 2TB drive which at the
time seemed enough. Once it had started, it said Importing 335,000
photos!!! I don't recall there ever being that many, however, it was
still Importing this morning with 225,000 to go but only 250GB space
left. I think it will run out of space at that rate.Oh well, I am not
so worried about that, at least I have now got a way to access them. I
will get myself another 2TB drive and when I am home will start the
process again. I am somewhat puzzled though that it is now apparently
much larger than it was. Perhaps there is a compression that can be
done or maybe this is all a consequence of the process of how I've got
into this pickle.
Maybe there is still another method to properly unpick the library
without resorting to an Import process. I am keen to hear if you or
anyone else has encountered this and methods for unpicking the mess
I've got myself into.
Regards
Pete.

- Original Message -
From: wamug@wamug.org.au
To:wamug@wamug.org.au 
Cc:
Sent:Sun, 26 Apr 2015 17:53:44 +0800
Subject:Re: iPhoto to Photos migration

Hi Peter, 
 I haven't got time tonight, but I will get back to your problem when
possible.  
Cheers, Ronni  
Sent from Ronni's iPad4 

On 26 Apr 2015, at 4:20 pm, petercr...@westnet.com.au [1] wrote:

 Hi Ronni, yes I feel a real goose for the steps I took (in
hindsight). 
 As I work away (and am away from home for a further 2 odd weeks), I
placed a copy of both (iPhoto and Photos) library files onto my 2TB
external drive and using my Retina MBP to try and unpick this mess
remotely from my Wifes MBP. A necessity as this happened the day prior
to my departure.  
 So i have the two files iPhoto Library and Photos Library both
sitting within one folder on the external drive (each file is saying
around 295GB from Get Info but not identical sizes). They are also
still in place in the UserPhotos folder on my Wife's MBP as I
restored the iPhoto library from Trash using the Put Back command. 
 When I attempt to open the iPhoto library (using the Option key
method on my Retina), it reflects as IPHOTO
LIBRARYMIGRATEDPHOTOLIBRARY Which would suggest that the library
underwent the start of its transformation in readiness to be 'hard
linked' with the Photos library. But the transformation was never
completed. 
 I do not have a backup I can revert to at any stage prior to the
update - coz I blew away the Sparesebundle! 
 Pete.

- Original Message -
 From: wamug@wamug.org.au [2]  
To:WAMUG 
Cc: 
Sent:Sun, 26 Apr 2015 15:38:45 +0800
Subject:Re: iPhoto to Photos migration

 Hello Peter,
 Sounds like you have really messed up the transition/import of
 iPhoto Library to Photos... and then did a Time Machine backup
BEFORE testing everything was working correctly... 
  The first time you launch Photos, it searches your system for iPhoto
and Aperture libraries. If only one library fits the bill, it imports
that library. Otherwise, it opens the Choose Library dialog window
 - Choose a library from the list, and Photos prepares the library
for import.  
 Photos needs to prepare your iPhoto Library before it imports into a
new Photos library. When you import an iPhoto library into Photos,
your existing library remains intact. The net result of the import is
that you’ll have two separate libraries on your Mac’s drive: your
old_ iPhoto library_ and a new _Photos library_.  
  The Import does NOT duplicate iPhoto Library but uses “Hard
Links. Your iPhoto Library remains intact, BUT a new Photos Library
comes into being.  The Libraries say they’re roughly the same size,
but in fact, they’re 'sharing disk space' via ‘hard links’. 
 After the successful transition ‘Migration' from iPhoto to Photos
you will have in your User  Pictures folder - 2 separate Libraries:
 IPHOTO LIBRARY.MIGRATEDPHOTOLIBRARY” AND “PHOTOS
LIBRARY.PHOTOSLIBRARY  
  On 25 Apr 2015, at 9:30 am, petercr...@westnet.com.au [4] wrote: 
Last week I updated my wife's 2012 MBP to latest OSX which brought the
new Photos application. I had done my own 2014 Retina MBP previously
without issue and have all my images carried over into Photos without
a hitch.
 The issue with my Wife's machine is I did the update and am unable to
see the images in Photos. I just get the intro screen with the 4
options for a new user. I've done the Option whilst starting it up
and directed it to the new Photo Library file and still nothing. The
Photo Library file shows in Get Info 

Re: iPhoto to Photos migration

[petercrisp]

Hi Ronni, yes it has, dare I say too, been a stuff up! :) 
Please finish your more urgent work before responding to my woes.

I am aware that I am creating a new iPhoto Library but I am doing this
with cognisance that I am working in a completely separate place (with
copies only) of the library files on my wifes MBP. The master library
files still reside on her MBP and exactly as I left them in the User 
Pictures folder. I took copies only of those two library files.
What I have proved by making a new library is I can access the
content. That was my number 1 concern.
I understand the Hard Link information you've outlined.
Answers to your questions here below.
A). ON YOUR WIFE'S MBP  IN HER USER HOME FOLDER  PICTURES - THERE
ARE THESE TWO FILES IPHOTO LIBRARY.MIGRATEDPHOTOLIBARY” and
 PHOTOS LIBRARY.PHOTOSLIBRARY… Is this correct? Yes, this is
correct.B). And your wife's MBP only has ONE iPhoto Library on her
system... is this correct? Yes, this is correct.C). And when you try
to open PHOTOS on her MBP it doesn’t open... is this correct - or
what happens? When I press Photos on the toolbar, the Photos
application opens up at the new user screen indicating the 4 options.
But no images appear when selected on the Photos tab. When Albums
tab is selected, the Events folders from iPhoto are shown greyed out
with no photographs within the folders. I did not select Use iCloud, I
never do.
Thanks
Pete.

- Original Message -
From: wamug@wamug.org.au
To:WAMUG 
Cc:
Sent:Mon, 27 Apr 2015 11:46:16 +0800
Subject:Re: iPhoto to Photos migration

 Oops I forgot to also mention -NOTE On first launch, PHOTOS asks
if you’d like to use ICLOUD PHOTO LIBRARY. I would recommend you
_DON’T USE ICLOUD PHOTO LIBRARY _at this time. 
  On 27 Apr 2015, at 11:39 am, Ronni Brown  wrote: 
 Oh Peter,
 I said I would get back to you when possible, I wish you had waited.
 I am busy with Clients work and really don’t have time at present
but reading your email I decided to reply to try to explain quickly
how the process works. 
 What you are now doing is Creating a NEW iPhoto Library (Duplicating
all the Media Files in iPhoto Library package)! You are not
understanding the iPhoto  Photos Directory structure... and how
‘Hard Links’ work so there is no duplication or extra space
required on the system 
 The Transition/Import from iPhoto to Photos has to be done on your
wife’s MBP where the Library files are in the correct locations to
link the two libraries using ‘Hard Links’.  
  HARD FACTS ABOUT HARD LINKS On import, Photos makes a HARD LINK to
all iPhoto media assets in its own library package, using the same
directory structure as iPhoto (The libraries say they’re roughly the
same size, but in fact, they’re sharing disk space via hard links).
Think of hard links as a cousin of Finder aliases—rather than
existing in one place with an alias in a different location, _FILES
THAT ARE_ '_HARD LINKED' APPEAR TO LIVE IN TWO PLACES AT ONCE, BUT
ONLY TAKE UP THE SPACE OF A SINGLE FILE._   __
 Your old library won't be converted, just imported, so you can still
open it in Aperture or iPhoto if you like (though once you import, if
you do anything new with that library in Aperture, it won't carry over
to the Photos version). 
 So what happens if you_ edit one of those files_? Something clever:
if I edit a file from a migrated iPhoto library in Photoshop, that
version is altered—but the version in the Photos library is
untouched.   _Basically, the act of modifying a hard-linked file
causes the link to break_. Now there are two different files, both
taking up disk space, living independently. For Mac users accustomed
to the a-file-is-a-file approach of the Finder, this one’s a bit of
a head-scratcher, but it’s a smart move by Apple to allow us to
MIGRATE TO PHOTOS WITHOUT DUPLICATING AN ENTIRE LIBRARY AND EATING ALL
OF OUR FREE DISK SPACE—or worse, never bothering to upgrade to
Photos because we don’t have the room. 
 The new Photos library references the same master images as your old
library, so you don't need the space to store images twice. It also
makes for an incredibly efficient migration process.  --- But because
of your initial (dare I say - stuffup) this hasn’t happened. How to
correct it?? I need more information - what is on your wife’s MBP. 
From what I can ascertain from your emails -  A). On your wife's
MBP  in her User Home Folder  Pictures - there are these two files
IPHOTO LIBRARY.MIGRATEDPHOTOLIBARY” and  PHOTOS
LIBRARY.PHOTOSLIBRARY… Is this correct?  B). And your wife's MBP
only has ONE iPhoto Library on her system... is this correct? C). And
when you try to open PHOTOS on her MBP it doesn’t open... is this
correct - or what happens? 
 One suggestion I will make:   ON HER MBP - If she double-clicks on
the  PHOTOS LIBRARY.PHOTOSLIBRARY does it open in PHOTOS? If 
NOT   _Hold down the Option key as you open the PHOTOS app in the
Dock _to see the 'Choose Library dialog' window. Click '_OTHER
LIBRARY_'  Select the 'IPHOTO 

iPhoto to Photos migration

[petercrisp]

Last week I updated my wife's 2012 MBP to latest OSX which brought the
new Photos application. I had done my own 2014 Retina MBP previously
without issue and have all my images carried over into Photos without
a hitch.
The issue with my Wife's machine is I did the update and am unable to
see the images in Photos. I just get the intro screen with the 4
options for a new user. I've done the Option whilst starting it up
and directed it to the new Photo Library file and still nothing The
Photo Library file shows in Get Info of 295GB so it would appear to be
a file containing the picture and video files but how do I access it?
An issue potentially caused by me was that after the update,  I ran a
cleaner (Cleanmymac) and it did some cleaning. I did in my travels
after the cleaning notice in the Trash can was the old iPhoto
Library!!! I assume this was an action of cleanmymac. So I selected
Put Back and it in turn is now placed alongside the Photos Library
in the default Apple folder location.
It was only after this that I opened Photos for the first time and I
suspect that upon first opening, it runs a script which does the
migration (but not duplication) of image files.
It gets worse - much worse I am afraid.
During the update I turned Time Machine off to prevent unwanted
backups during the process of updating. I think this is a recommended
practice anyway. Well, after the dust settled (but before running
Photos) I turned TM back on and it goes through the Preparing Backup
routine for a looong while and then says Backing Up 325GB!!! I pressed
the cross to stop that and thought about it a bit. Running low on TM
disc space and having done this previously (and never once having had
to call upon the TM backup to retrieve anything in the 6 years of Mac
ownership) decided I would delete the Sparesebundle file and do a new
Backup from scratch . I suspect that the Preparing Backup routine
spotted the iPhoto Library in the Trash and the Photos library in its
normal home and detected there are two libraries to back up hence the
order of magnitude of the backup.
Anyway, now that I am over this, I still have the problem where
neither iPhoto nor Photos will open showing my wifes previous
images. 
When I launch iPhoto - I get a message Aperture needs updating so
when I try that, it says the version of Aperture required is not
available in the Australian Apple Store - so no good there
When I launch Photos - I get the first time user screen. If I select
Albums, I see the greyed image of the previous Events folders as
Albums and the names of Albums are accurate per the previous iPhotos
Events folder, but upon opening, nothing is visible. Still no images.
Whilst in hindsight some of my actions have been not very good, I
still don't understand why I can get at my images/videos?
Anyone have any ideas how to get out of this pickle?
Pete :(


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Re: Walt Mossberg on the Return of the Mac

[petercrisp]

For what it's worth I have a 4S and am running iOS 8.1 - nothing's
different for me. Seems the same as what it was prior to the shift to
8.X 
I am still happy and enduring an Android Note 2 in parallel through no
choice of my own - out of work necessity.
Thanks.
Pete...

- Original Message -
From: wamug@wamug.org.au
To:wamug@wamug.org.au 
Cc:
Sent:Thu, 20 Nov 2014 12:00:56 +0800
Subject:Re: Walt Mossberg on the Return of the Mac

HI MICHAEL,

 My god you are tough on Apple! I've had clients running iOS 8 on
iPhone 4S with no complaints - sure it is not as fast as on the newer
iPhones. THE IPHONE 4S IS THE OLDEST IPHONE THAT IOS 8 SUPPORTS, so
it’s no surprise that users who have this phone are complaining
about performance, as it was just like this last year when iOS 7 was
released for the iPhone 4. 

BUT NOW IOS 8.1.1 HAS RELEASED WITH IMPROVEMENTS TO IPHONE 4S  IPAD 2

  The iOS 8.1.1 update has bug fixes and performance improvements for
the iPhone 4s and the iPad 2.  

The iPhone 4s and the iPad 2 are two devices that have seen degraded
performance with iOS 8, but this new update will fix many of these
problems that users have been having with the older devices. The
iPhone 4s and the iPad 2 are the two oldest devices that support iOS
8. 

Many owners of older iPhones have been reporting slowdowns ever
since updating to iOS 8 [1], mostly because the latest version of
Apple’s mobile operating system is aimed at newer devices.  

Cheers,                                        
                                             
                                 Ronni 

Sent from Ronni's iPad4On 20 Nov 2014, at 10:40 am, Michael
Hawkins  wrote:

  Should have included as well the forced replacement of Mac devices
because users did not realise that they should opt out of updates
which so adversely affected the performance of the device that
purchase of a new model was necessary For example, effect of ios8 on
iPhone 4S. 
 Michael Hawkins

On 20 Nov 2014, at 9:34 am, Ronda Brown  wrote:

  WALT MOSSBERG ON THE RETURN OF THE MAC   
Many were shocked at the growth in Mac sales in Apple’s fourth
fiscal quarter of 2014, but not veteran technology journalist Walt
Mossberg. Mossberg credits the second act of the Mac to three factors:
the leadership of Steve Jobs, the rise of the Web, and Microsoft’s
many mistakes.  

Cheers, Ronni  
Sent from Ronni's iPad4


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Re: Yosemite - Time Machine backup

[petercrisp]

Ok, thanks for that Ronni. Yes I feel too that I have a
disproportionate number of issues and likely to be caused by me. My
Dad also indicated a doubling in size of his Saprsebundle (700GB to
~1.4TB) following the first backup following his Yosemite upgrade.
I had my external drive attached as I always do which contains my
iTunes and iPhoto libraries. Perhaps if I did a MBP backup first
WITHOUT the external drive attached and then introduced the external
drive afterwards that may have made a difference.  
Fortunately it is all academic now as I blew away the Sparesbundle and
in the process of rebuilding from scratch (it was in the process still
this morning when I left for work (at around 550 of 725GB)) so
hopefully completed when I return home tonight.
On the upside I like the refreshing new look of Yosemite and the
lovely mountain scenes from Yosemite National Park included in the
desktop image library.
Regards
Pete...

- Original Message -
From: wamug@wamug.org.au
To:WAMUG 
Cc:
Sent:Tue, 21 Oct 2014 13:20:50 +0800
Subject:Re: Yosemite - Time Machine backup

 Hi Peter, 
  I then shut down iTunes in readiness for kicking off the backup.
When I switched on TM, it commences by Preparing Backup, I expected
this to take a while and it did. A while later I got an error message
saying backup drive too small for this backup. I was expecting an
incremental backup not a full backup of the ~720GB of data I have all
over again. I thought here we go again.  
 I took a look in Finder at the Sparesebundle file and there was a
4.5GB sparsebundle file there and no sign of the previous ~630GB
Mavericks based Sparesebundle.   
 I've never known anyone to have so many problems/issues with Time
Machine backups / Time Capsule as you're experienced. I have used Time
Machine first on a 2TB Time Capsule before changing to a 3TB Time
Capsule with my current backups history going back to January 2012.
I've never had any problems with my 'Simultaneous Dual-Band 802.11n
Wi-Fi Network' or 'Time Machine backups' to either Time Capsule. 
 I did a final SD Bootable Backup  a TM Backup prior to installing
Yosemite (as I always do before any upgrade of the OS). I kept TWO
copies of the 5.17GB  Install OS X Yosemite.app - one on my Desktop
that I used to install Yosemite and another copy in my Installers
Folder. After installation completed I went through the normal steps
of signing in to Apple ID/iCloud/Messages etc - updating databases (by
opening all Apple Apps), upgrading applications, repairing
permissions, and testing that everything worked correctly for a couple
of days before turning on Time Machine to backup. 
 Time Machine 'Preparing Backup' took a bit longer than normal (as
expected) as it read the new operating system, plus TM had not backed
up for two days. The backup went ahead and completed without any
problem. The backup was 31.90GB (which is what I expected). I tested
the backup to see the changes I had made working for two days and all
was correct. 
 So I don't have any idea 'why' or  'how' your previous  ~630GB
Mavericks Time Machine backup  'Sparsebundle' was deleted... A
Sparsebundle does not delete itself!! And what the heck is the 4.5GB
Sparsebundle?  did you have anything connected to your Mac? 
 Your son's 13GB sounds fair - the Yosemite operating system is
8-10GB, I noticed my HD 'Used': space had increased quite
significantly after the installation. 
 Cheers,   Ronni

17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD

OS X 1010 Yosemite
Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)

 On 20 Oct 2014, at 3:08 pm, petercr...@westnet.com.au [1] wrote: 
Hi, across the weekend I did the Yosemite upgrade and it all went
seamlessly onto my 2014 MBP 13 Retina. As some may recall, I have
previously had a couple of issues with Time Machine backups during
non-related activities. Prior to doing the upgrade to Yosemite, I
forced a backup with the TC which completed successfully. I then
turned off Time Machine.
 Then I did the Update process with the machine connected via my
recently acquired Ethernet adapter. All this went fine. After the
download and prior to doing the install, I dragged the dmg file to my
desktop so it wouldn't auto delete and then _copied _the dmg to a
drive connected via my USB hub attached to my TC. All ok to here, no
issues. Then did the update of the MBP to Yosemite, this also ran with
no issues (backup still turned off). Sign in to iCloud all went fine
too. Then i did the iTunes update, a nice new front end UI, long
overdue though. 
 Then I trashed the Yosemite dmg from the desktop so as not to have a
further 5GB included in the backup when I had held over another copy
of it independently. 
 I then shut down iTunes in readiness for kicking off the backup. When
I switched on TM, it commences by Preparing Backup, I expected this
to take a while and it did. A while later I got an error message
saying backup drive too small for this backup. I was expecting an

Yosemite - Time Machine backup

[petercrisp]

Hi, across the weekend I did the Yosemite upgrade and it all went
seamlessly onto my 2014 MBP 13 Retina. As some may recall, I have
previously had a couple of issues with Time Machine backups during
non-related activities. Prior to doing the upgrade to Yosemite, I
forced a backup with the TC which completed successfully. I then
turned off Time Machine.
Then I did the Update process with the machine connected via my
recently acquired Ethernet adapter. All this went fine. After the
download and prior to doing the install, I dragged the dmg file to my
desktop so it wouldn't auto delete and then _copied _the dmg to a
drive connected via my USB hub attached to my TC. All ok to here, no
issues Then did the update of the MBP to Yosemite, this also ran with
no issues (backup still turned off). Sign in to iCloud all went fine
too. Then i did the iTunes update, a nice new front end UI, long
overdue though.
Then I trashed the Yosemite dmg from the desktop so as not to have a
further 5GB included in the backup when I had held over another copy
of it independently.
I then shut down iTunes in readiness for kicking off the backup. When
I switched on TM, it commences by Preparing Backup, I expected this
to take a while and it did. A while later I got an error message
saying backup drive too small for this backup. I was expecting an
incremental backup not a full backup of the ~720GB of data I have all
over again. I thought here we go again. 
I took a look in Finder at the Sparesebundle file and there was a
4.5GB sparsebundle file there and no sign of the previous ~630GB
Mavericks based Sparesebundle. 
I probably did something wrong but wasn't too bothered as the
Sparsebundle was only a month old having previously deleted the
Sparesebundle and rebuilt from scratch just a month ago when I had the
previous problem following a Dropbox/Backup clash I caused
I am curious to know if there is anyone else who had a similar
experience with the Yosemite backup or might have a clue as to what I
did wrong. .
By contrast my 11yo son, did his update (on his 2012,13 MBP
non-retina) and then TM update was ~13GB without issue. Still a big
backup.
Regards
Pete.


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Re: iPhone6 OSX 8.02 software upgrade

[petercrisp]

Hi Ronni, yes it was out of convenience on the train that I responded
to this thread and not easy access to the other thread on smartphone -
however my feedback was relevant in the context of where this thread
was heading so saw benefit to others enquiring about iOS 8.0.2
upgrade.
I will do the steps you've indicated below and see how I go. Thanks
for those pointers. I wonder too if the Time Capsule firmware could be
in need of an update if there is something to do with the wireless
network at the root of this. Is that something I should do?
Regards
Pete.

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To:wamug@wamug.org.au 
Cc:
Sent:Thu, 09 Oct 2014 11:53:53 +0800
Subject:Re: iPhone6  OSX 8.02 software upgrade

Hi Peter, 

Would make things easier for everyone if you replied to your original
subject thread so we could follow what already has been suggested. 

After you updated to iOS 8.0.2 did your do a 'Hard Restart' of your
devices? 

'Hold home button and sleep wake button until Apple icon appears' 

Also Restart your home Network router? You may need to disconnect the
power cord for 30 seconds or more.  

1. Connect device (iPad or iPhone) to Mac with USB cable 

2. Uncheck Wi-Fi sync in summary screen - click Apply 

3. Sync (using USB cable) 

4. Check Wi-Fi sync -click Apply 

5. Sync again with USB cable 

6. Unplug cable and try syncing (wirelessly) starting it from iTunes 

  

If you still experience problems, have a read here: 

Resolution - Expand All 

Cheers, 

Ronni 
Sent from Ronni's iPad4 

On 9 Oct 2014, at 6:44 am, Peter Crisp  wrote:

Hi all, I indicated the other day in anotherthread that I had a
problem with wifi sync with iTunesin version 8.0. Following
recommendations, I upgraded my 4S from 8.0 to 8.0.2. I did this and
instantly my iPhone hooked up to iTunes. A little later that eve I
tried to change some music content on my iPhone using iTunes and when
I hit sync after 30 seconds on Step 1 of synch process unable to find
iPhone pops up. I gave up and plugged in the lead and repeated what I
wanted to do.  
 I've had this in prior ios versions and even tried to force synch
from the iPhone also without success.  
 I also looked in Activity monitor for the helper thing which wasn't
there to delete.  
 So,  my findings are that aspect within 8.0.2 is unreliable.  
 Regards 
 Pete.   
  

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Re: Synch over WiFi to iTunes

[petercrisp]

Thanks Ronni, I will try this out tonight.
Regards
Pete... 

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To:WAMUG 
Cc:
Sent:Mon, 06 Oct 2014 13:53:01 +0800
Subject:Re: Synch over WiFi to iTunes

 Hi Peter,
 I would suggest you do the update iOS 8.0.2. Backup your devices
first though. 
  IPHONE WIFI SYNC WITH ITUNES NOT WORKING:  Using the USB cable,
connect your iPhone to the computer you want to sync with. Let the
iPhone sync.
 
In the left-hand pane, click on your iPhone under Devices.
 
Select the Summary tab along the top of the screen.
 
Under Options, is the checkbox for 'Sync with this Phone over Wi-Fi'
checked? If not, check it and click Apply.
 
If it was already checked, do the following:
Uncheck it
Click Apply
Disconnect the iPhone from the computer
Plug the iPhone into the computer again
Check the Sync over Wi-Fi checkbox
Click Apply
Disconnect the iPhone from the computer
 
Now go under Settings  General  iTunes Wi-Fi Sync and see if you can
sync wirelessly. 
 If you still are unable to sync wirelessly ---  FIX FOR WI-FI SYNCING
 WIRELESS IOS DEVICES NOT SHOWING UP IN ITUNES:

The solution for wireless syncing not working and devices not showing
up is almost always just to kill the Apple Mobile Device Helper
process in OS X.

Launch “Activity Monitor” (found in /Applications/Utilities/)
Use the search box in the upper right corner and search for
“AppleMobileDeviceHelper”
Select that process and then click the red “Quit Process” button
(well its not Red anymore just a 'grey X button'
Confirm the process is to be Quit
Leave Activity Monitor and then relaunch iTunes

Relaunching iTunes should cause the iPhone, iPad, iPod touch, iPad
Mini, whatever it is, to immediately appear in the Devices list of the
iTunes sidebar, or in the titlebar if the sidebar is hidden. 
 If you are still unable to sync wirelessly post back. 
   Cheers,
Ronni

17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD

OS X 109.5 Mavericks
Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)

 On 6 Oct 2014, at 12:57 pm, petercr...@westnet.com.au [1] wrote: 
A while back I had an issue where neither my iPhone nor my iPad would
be recognised by iTunes wirelessly for synching where previously this
had been set up very simply. It was a fair while back but I think I
corrected it by doing a Restore. I did the update to iOS 8.0 a couple
of weeks back just before a trip to teh Eastern states and returned
yesterday but just noticed that neither device is acknowledged by
iTunes again. I see also in the mean time another update  to iOS
8.0.2 is available and perhaps doing that update will resolve this
connectivity issue. Or else I am probably needing to do another
Restore on each device. 
 I have confirmed the synch over wifi box is ticked for each device.
I even unticked, Apply, then reticked to no avail. 
 It seems I am not alone either - others are reporting this is an iOS
8 caused issue.  https://discussions.apple.com/thread/6542501 [2]  

 Does anyone have this issue? 
 Regards 
 Pete...

 

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Synch over WiFi to iTunes

[petercrisp]

A while back I had an issue where neither my iPhone nor my iPad would
be recognised by iTunes wirelessly for synching where previously this
had been set up very simply. It was a fair while back but I think I
corrected it by doing a Restore. I did the update to iOS 8.0 a couple
of weeks back just before a trip to teh Eastern states and returned
yesterday but just noticed that neither device is acknowledged by
iTunes again. I see also in the mean time another update  to iOS
8.0.2 is available and perhaps doing that update will resolve this
connectivity issue. Or else I am probably needing to do another
Restore on each device. 
I have confirmed the synch over wifi box is ticked for each device.
I even unticked, Apply, then reticked to no avail.
It seems I am not alone either - others are reporting this is an iOS 8
caused issue.  https://discussions.apple.com/thread/6542501

Does anyone have this issue?
Regards
Pete...


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Re: Ethernet to Thunderbolt adaptor

[petercrisp]

Hi Peter, I tried again with the adaptor. When looking in the About
this Mac  More Info panel  Thuderbolt, the two ports are noted and
one of them shows the adaptor connected. So it has recognised it.
Then when I look at Network Preferences panel there are two
Thunderbolt entries in the left panel - BOTH have red lights - one
says Thunder..., the other says thubridge. When I go into each
one and press the renew DHCP lease I get an open box beneath where it
is requiring me to input something (I can't recall what is asked for)
- but I didn't know what to put in next anyway.
Did you or anyone else have any of these issues and if resolved how?
Regards
Peter. 

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Sent:Tue, 16 Sep 2014 07:12:33 +0800
Subject:Re: Ethernet to Thunderbolt adaptor

 On 15 Sep 2014, at 9:14 am, petercr...@westnet.com.au [1] wrote: 
Thanks for that Peter. I think I had given it at least a minute to
'recognise' the connection. There are two Thunderbolt ports, how do I
know which is which in the System Info panel so I can renew the DHCP
lease?

 The Network Preferences panel will tell you which port is active. It
will be the only one showing up in the panel, since you won't be
connecting both at the same time.  
  Peter Hinchliffe    Apwin Computer Services FileMaker Pro
Solutions Developer
Perth, Western Australia
Phone (618) 9332 6482    Mob 0403 046 948

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Re: Ethernet to Thunderbolt adaptor

[petercrisp]

Thanks for that Peter. I think I had given it at least a minute to
'recognise' the connection. There are two Thunderbolt ports, how do I
know which is which in the System Info panel so I can renew the DHCP
lease?
Will give that a try.
Thanks
Peter. 

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Sent:Mon, 15 Sep 2014 07:47:03 +0800
Subject:Re: Ethernet to Thunderbolt adaptor

 On 14 Sep 2014, at 8:56 pm, Peter Crisp  wrote:

  I bought myself a Gigabit Ethernet to Thunderbolt adaptor so my MBP
Retina can utilise ethernet for big backups and other large data
movements. Tonight I plugged it in and I thought it would auto
recognise but nothing. I checked in System Prefs under Thunderbolt and
“Not Connected” is noted for both ports. I proved the ethernet
cable is good with another older MB connected so everything up to the
plug is good. I read online about some faulty adaptors and maybe this
is the case with mine.
  
  I thought I’d ask maybe there is a simple start command to set it
up and use it.
  
  Any experiences anyone?

 I bought one of these with by MBP Retina in 2012, and it has never
failed me. It can sometimes take a little while to establish a
connection from cold, depending on the hardware you're connecting to,
and sometimes I have to resort the trick of renewing the DHCP lease as
described by Ronni, but I have found that it does depend on the
network. Most of the time the connection is instantaneous, but
sometimes it can take up to a minute or so. It can be a little
annoying, but as I say, I have not yet had it fail to make a
connection.

 Peter Hinchliffe Apwin Computer Services
 FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
 Perth, Western Australia
 Phone (618) 9332 6482 Mob 0403 046 948
 
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Re: Ethernet to Thunderbolt adaptor

[petercrisp]

Thanks Ronni, just saw this now, ignore my previous request for info
on renewing lease.
Regards
Pete. 

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From: wamug@wamug.org.au
To:wamug@wamug.org.au 
Cc:
Sent:Sun, 14 Sep 2014 21:21:53 +0800
Subject:Re: Ethernet to Thunderbolt adaptor

 In System Preferences  Network did you change your connection to
Ethernet?
 Then 'Refresh DHCP Lease'

 1. Unplug the thunderbolt converter
 2. Wait few secs, then plug it back in
 3.Go to System Preferences  Network  Advanced - Refresh DHCP lease

 Cheers,
 Ronni
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4

  On 14 Sep 2014, at 8:56 pm, Peter Crisp  wrote:
  
  I bought myself a Gigabit Ethernet to Thunderbolt adaptor so my MBP
Retina can utilise ethernet for big backups and other large data
movements. Tonight I plugged it in and I thought it would auto
recognise but nothing. I checked in System Prefs under Thunderbolt and
“Not Connected” is noted for both ports. I proved the ethernet
cable is good with another older MB connected so everything up to the
plug is good. I read online about some faulty adaptors and maybe this
is the case with mine.
  
  I thought I’d ask maybe there is a simple start command to set it
up and use it.
  
  Any experiences anyone?
  
  Regards
  
  Pete….
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