Re: Spam on devices

[Jennifer Lefroy]

Thank you, Ronnie.

On Tue, 13 Nov 2018 at 18:35, Ronni Brown  wrote:

> Hi Jennifer,
>
> Spammers are getting smarter, and as long as they have your right server
> address, it doesn’t matter what name.
> All you can do especially in POP email accounts in iOS12 is Mark the Spam
> messages as Junk & have move them to Junk:
>
> *Moving Spam Emails to the Junk Folder*
> The iOS Mail app offers a couple of ways to move mail to a Junk
> folder—even in bulk.
> Among the convenient features that come with an email account that is
> web-based is spam filtering right at the server.
> Moving mail to the Junk folder in iOS Mail notifies the spam filter at the
> server that it missed an unwanted spam email, so it can stop it next time.
>
> To move a message to an account's Junk folder in iOS, open the inbox that
> contains the email:
> With the spam message open:
>
>1. Tap the *flag* button.
>2. Select *Move to Junk* from the menu.
>
> In the message list:
>
>1. Swipe across the message from the right to left just enough to
>reveal the *More* menu.
>2. Tap *More*
>3. Select *Mark*
>4. Select *Move to Junk*
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>
>Cheers,
>Ronni
>
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>
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>
>
>
> On 13 Nov 2018, at 5:28 pm, Jennifer Lefroy 
> wrote:
>
> Thank you Ronnie.  The spam mail is coming into POP accounts .  The mail
> is from various addresses and so the rules I have set up on my computer
> refer to subject and words in the content.
> How is it that my ISP sends them although the user names they are sent to
> are not mine?
>
> Regards,
> Jennifer
>
> On Tue, 13 Nov 2018 at 15:49, Ronni Brown  wrote:
>
>> Hi Jennifer,
>>
>> If you block the Address in Mail on your computer, mail on iPhone/iPad
>> should not receive any mail messages from that Address.
>> What type of email account is the Spam coming to?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>>
>> *13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)*
>> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
>> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
>> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
>>
>> macOS High Sierra 10.13.6
>>
>> On 13 Nov 2018, at 12:32 pm, Jennifer Lefroy 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Every time I use email (not gmail) on my iPad or iPhone, it is cluttered
>> with spam, all from names beginning with A and all containing graphic
>> photos.  They have the right server address, but not the correct user name.
>> I have successfully blocked them on my Mac desktop through mail rules. The
>> server says it cannot help.  Is there any solution apart from cancelling
>> that email account?
>>
>> I will be grateful for any suggestion.
>> Regards,
>> Jennifer Lefroy
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Re: Spam on devices

[Ronni Brown]

Hi Jennifer,

Spammers are getting smarter, and as long as they have your right server 
address, it doesn’t matter what name.
All you can do especially in POP email accounts in iOS12 is Mark the Spam 
messages as Junk & have move them to Junk:

Moving Spam Emails to the Junk Folder
The iOS Mail app offers a couple of ways to move mail to a Junk folder—even in 
bulk. 
Among the convenient features that come with an email account that is web-based 
is spam filtering right at the server. 
Moving mail to the Junk folder in iOS Mail notifies the spam filter at the 
server that it missed an unwanted spam email, so it can stop it next time.

To move a message to an account's Junk folder in iOS, open the inbox that 
contains the email:
With the spam message open:
Tap the flag button.
Select Move to Junk from the menu.
In the message list:
Swipe across the message from the right to left just enough to reveal the More 
menu. 
Tap More
Select Mark
Select Move to Junk


Cheers,
Ronni

13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage

macOS High Sierra 10.13.6


> On 13 Nov 2018, at 5:28 pm, Jennifer Lefroy  wrote:
> 
> Thank you Ronnie.  The spam mail is coming into POP accounts .  The mail is 
> from various addresses and so the rules I have set up on my computer refer to 
> subject and words in the content.
> How is it that my ISP sends them although the user names they are sent to are 
> not mine?
> 
> Regards,
> Jennifer
> 
> On Tue, 13 Nov 2018 at 15:49, Ronni Brown  > wrote:
> Hi Jennifer,
> 
> If you block the Address in Mail on your computer, mail on iPhone/iPad should 
> not receive any mail messages from that Address.
> What type of email account is the Spam coming to?
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
> 
> macOS High Sierra 10.13.6
> 
>> On 13 Nov 2018, at 12:32 pm, Jennifer Lefroy > > wrote:
>> 
>> Every time I use email (not gmail) on my iPad or iPhone, it is cluttered 
>> with spam, all from names beginning with A and all containing graphic 
>> photos.  They have the right server address, but not the correct user name. 
>> I have successfully blocked them on my Mac desktop through mail rules. The 
>> server says it cannot help.  Is there any solution apart from cancelling 
>> that email account?   
>> 
>> I will be grateful for any suggestion.
>> Regards,
>> Jennifer Lefroy
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Re: Spam on devices

[Jennifer Lefroy]

Thank you Ronnie.  The spam mail is coming into POP accounts .  The mail is
from various addresses and so the rules I have set up on my computer refer
to subject and words in the content.
How is it that my ISP sends them although the user names they are sent to
are not mine?

Regards,
Jennifer

On Tue, 13 Nov 2018 at 15:49, Ronni Brown  wrote:

> Hi Jennifer,
>
> If you block the Address in Mail on your computer, mail on iPhone/iPad
> should not receive any mail messages from that Address.
> What type of email account is the Spam coming to?
>
> Cheers,
> Ronni
>
> *13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)*
> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
>
> macOS High Sierra 10.13.6
>
> On 13 Nov 2018, at 12:32 pm, Jennifer Lefroy 
> wrote:
>
> Every time I use email (not gmail) on my iPad or iPhone, it is cluttered
> with spam, all from names beginning with A and all containing graphic
> photos.  They have the right server address, but not the correct user name.
> I have successfully blocked them on my Mac desktop through mail rules. The
> server says it cannot help.  Is there any solution apart from cancelling
> that email account?
>
> I will be grateful for any suggestion.
> Regards,
> Jennifer Lefroy
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Re: Spam on devices

[Ronni Brown]

Hi Jennifer,

If you block the Address in Mail on your computer, mail on iPhone/iPad should 
not receive any mail messages from that Address.
What type of email account is the Spam coming to?

Cheers,
Ronni

13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
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8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage

macOS High Sierra 10.13.6

> On 13 Nov 2018, at 12:32 pm, Jennifer Lefroy  
> wrote:
> 
> Every time I use email (not gmail) on my iPad or iPhone, it is cluttered with 
> spam, all from names beginning with A and all containing graphic photos.  
> They have the right server address, but not the correct user name. I have 
> successfully blocked them on my Mac desktop through mail rules. The server 
> says it cannot help.  Is there any solution apart from cancelling that email 
> account?   
> 
> I will be grateful for any suggestion.
> Regards,
> Jennifer Lefroy
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Re: SPAM

[Rod Blitvich]

Thanks Ronni
Yeah I figured I needed to look at that and did so yesterday
maybe it’s now got better
ta
Blitto



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> On 2 Feb 2018, at 12:11 pm, Ronni Brown  wrote:
> 
> I wasn’t going to remind members to check their Junk Mail settings as I was 
> assuming you all have Junk Mail set up on your Macs. But then thought I 
> should not always assume all Members have taken our advise over the years.
> 
> Make sure you have your ‘Junk Mail’ settings correct in Mail > Preferences > 
> Junk Mail.
> "I consider these settings to be the optimal Junk Mail settings in Mail.
> 
> Select - Enable junk mail filtering
> 
> When junk mail arrives:
> Select - Move it to the Junk mailbox
> 
> The following types of messages are exempt from junk mail filtering:
> Select - Sender of message is in my contacts
> Select - Sender of message is in my Previous Recipients
> 
> Select - Trust junk mail headers in messages
> DON’T Select - Filter junk mail headers before applying my rules
> (Note about the last checkbox, Filter junk mail before Applying My Rules.)
> Ordinary, the Junk Mail filter runs after your rules, meaning your rules 
> process all incoming spam messages and therefore may move some of them before 
> the spam filter gets a chance to put them in the Junk Mailbox. Checking this 
> box makes the Junk Mail filter run first, which reduces that problem while 
> possibly producing a higher number of false positives. 
> 
> I’m assuming that you’ve set up good rules—so messages processed by your 
> rules are usually “real” mail— and suggest leaving this unchecked.
> 
> Mail’s Junk Mail filter gets smarter and more accurate as you use it— but 
> only if you tell it the truth! That means always correcting it when it makes 
> a mistake. If Mail fails to move a spam message to Junk, select it and click 
> the Junk  button on the toolbar. 
> In addition, scan your Junk mailbox every few days or so to make sure Mail 
> hasn’t mistakenly marked a good message as spam. If you find a legitimate 
> message, select it, click the Not Junk  button on 
> the toolbar, and drag the message back to your Inbox. (If you don’t see the 
> Junk or Not Junk  button, that’s because they’re the 
> same button—the name changes depending on whether Mail thinks the selected 
> message is spam or not.)
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
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> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
> 
> macOS High Sierra 10.13.3
> 
>> On 2 Feb 2018, at 11:37 am, Ronda Brown > > wrote:
>> 
>> As Tim has mentioned NEVER click on ‘unsubscribe’ SPAM emails!
>> If you do you will be smothered in more SPAM emails.
>> 
>>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 2 Feb 2018, at 10:27 am, Tim Law >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I never click on any unsubscribe button unless it’s from an apparently 
>>> legitimate source. Otherwise you’re simply assuring them they have the 
>>> spammers dream - a live email address. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from Tim's iPhone
>>> 
 On 2 Feb 2018, at 9:35 am, Peter Curtis > wrote:
 
 Hi
 Yes, far more than i’ve ever had before.
 Kind regards
 Peter
 
> On 2 Feb 2018, at 6:02 am, Rod Blitvich  > wrote:
> 
> Hi Folks
> I am with iinet
> In the last week or two I have been receiving HEAPS of SPAM email
> Has anyone else experienced this?
> ta
> Blitto
> 
> 
> 
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Re: SPAM

[Ronni Brown]

I wasn’t going to remind members to check their Junk Mail settings as I was 
assuming you all have Junk Mail set up on your Macs. But then thought I should 
not always assume all Members have taken our advise over the years.

Make sure you have your ‘Junk Mail’ settings correct in Mail > Preferences > 
Junk Mail.
"I consider these settings to be the optimal Junk Mail settings in Mail.

Select - Enable junk mail filtering

When junk mail arrives:
Select - Move it to the Junk mailbox

The following types of messages are exempt from junk mail filtering:
Select - Sender of message is in my contacts
Select - Sender of message is in my Previous Recipients

Select - Trust junk mail headers in messages
DON’T Select - Filter junk mail headers before applying my rules
(Note about the last checkbox, Filter junk mail before Applying My Rules.)
Ordinary, the Junk Mail filter runs after your rules, meaning your rules 
process all incoming spam messages and therefore may move some of them before 
the spam filter gets a chance to put them in the Junk Mailbox. Checking this 
box makes the Junk Mail filter run first, which reduces that problem while 
possibly producing a higher number of false positives. 

I’m assuming that you’ve set up good rules—so messages processed by your rules 
are usually “real” mail— and suggest leaving this unchecked.

Mail’s Junk Mail filter gets smarter and more accurate as you use it— but only 
if you tell it the truth! That means always correcting it when it makes a 
mistake. If Mail fails to move a spam message to Junk, select it and click the 
Junk  button on the toolbar. 
In addition, scan your Junk mailbox every few days or so to make sure Mail 
hasn’t mistakenly marked a good message as spam. If you find a legitimate 
message, select it, click the Not Junk  button on the toolbar, and drag the 
message back to your Inbox. (If you don’t see the Junk or Not Junk  button, 
that’s because they’re the same button—the name changes depending on whether 
Mail thinks the selected message is spam or not.)


Cheers,
Ronni

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8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage

macOS High Sierra 10.13.3

> On 2 Feb 2018, at 11:37 am, Ronda Brown  wrote:
> 
> As Tim has mentioned NEVER click on ‘unsubscribe’ SPAM emails!
> If you do you will be smothered in more SPAM emails.
> 
>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
> 
> 
>> On 2 Feb 2018, at 10:27 am, Tim Law  wrote:
>> 
>> I never click on any unsubscribe button unless it’s from an apparently 
>> legitimate source. Otherwise you’re simply assuring them they have the 
>> spammers dream - a live email address. 
>> 
>> Sent from Tim's iPhone
>> 
>>> On 2 Feb 2018, at 9:35 am, Peter Curtis  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi
>>> Yes, far more than i’ve ever had before.
>>> Kind regards
>>> Peter
>>> 
 On 2 Feb 2018, at 6:02 am, Rod Blitvich  wrote:
 
 Hi Folks
 I am with iinet
 In the last week or two I have been receiving HEAPS of SPAM email
 Has anyone else experienced this?
 ta
 Blitto
 
 
 
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Re: SPAM

[Tim Law]

I never click on any unsubscribe button unless it’s from an apparently 
legitimate source. Otherwise you’re simply assuring them they have the spammers 
dream - a live email address. 

Sent from Tim's iPhone

> On 2 Feb 2018, at 9:35 am, Peter Curtis  wrote:
> 
> Hi
> Yes, far more than i’ve ever had before.
> Kind regards
> Peter
> 
>> On 2 Feb 2018, at 6:02 am, Rod Blitvich  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Folks
>> I am with iinet
>> In the last week or two I have been receiving HEAPS of SPAM email
>> Has anyone else experienced this?
>> ta
>> Blitto
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
>> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
>> Good Ideas 
>> 0409 681 256  
>> rb...@iinet.net.au 
>> 
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Re: SPAM

[Peter Curtis]

Hi
Yes, far more than i’ve ever had before.
Kind regards
Peter

> On 2 Feb 2018, at 6:02 am, Rod Blitvich  wrote:
> 
> Hi Folks
> I am with iinet
> In the last week or two I have been receiving HEAPS of SPAM email
> Has anyone else experienced this?
> ta
> Blitto
> 
> 
> 
> Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
>  Good Ideas 
>  0409 681 256  
>  rb...@iinet.net.au 
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Re: SPAM

[FW]

Hi Rod,

Yes, same here.
The annoying thing is, that there is often no “unsubscribe” button on the 
email. (BitCoin™ etc)
And lots of others that have the unsubscribe,  but when you click on it a 
webpage opens with a
some other sales campaign etc.

Cheers
Walter


> On 2 Feb 2018, at 06:02 , Rod Blitvich  wrote:
> 
> Hi Folks
> I am with iinet
> In the last week or two I have been receiving HEAPS of SPAM email 
> Has anyone else experienced this?
> ta
> Blitto
> 
> 
> 
> Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
>  Good Ideas 
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Re: Spam purported to be from Apple

[Peter Crisp]

Thanks Rob, 

Regards

A loyal Apple ‘costumer’ 


> On 23 Nov 2016, at 4:38 PM, Rob Phillips  wrote:
> 
> It's not google - it's a scam. The actual address, hidden in the long google 
> string is 'staging.btvin.com'.
> 
> I get these regularly, and ignore them.
> Rob
> 
> 
> On 23/11/2016 2:12 pm, clamsh...@iinet.net.au wrote:
>> Just a heads-up:
>> 
>> Received an email supposedly from Apple about resetting my Apple ID password 
>> — claiming I recently requested a password reset for my Apple ID  — I 
>> didn’t. Hovered my mouse over the several links in the email, and this is 
>> what it said ( crippled the link):
>> 
>> ww.google.com.au/url?sa=t=j==s=web=1=rja=8=0ahUKEwimsKmOvL3QAhVEGJQKHZfjB-UQFggaMAA=http%3A%2F%2Fstaging.btvin.com%2F=AFQjCNEV3TjhrU5cVKWDbrekPApkUz-shw=bv.139250283,d.dGo
>> 
>> The body of the email starts out:
>> 
>> "Dear costumer,
>> You recently requested a password reset for your Apple ID. To complete the 
>> process, click the link below.…”
>> 
>> If this really is from Google, I would really like to know why — it seems to 
>> me Google is getting far too big with tentacles into far too many things. I 
>> sent the information to Scamwatch.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Pat
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Re: Spam purported to be from Apple

[Rob Phillips]

It's not google - it's a scam. The actual address, hidden in the long 
google string is 'staging.btvin.com'.


I get these regularly, and ignore them.
Rob


On 23/11/2016 2:12 pm, clamsh...@iinet.net.au wrote:

Just a heads-up:

Received an email supposedly from Apple about resetting my Apple ID password — 
claiming I recently requested a password reset for my Apple ID  — I didn’t. 
Hovered my mouse over the several links in the email, and this is what it said 
( crippled the link):

ww.google.com.au/url?sa=t=j==s=web=1=rja=8=0ahUKEwimsKmOvL3QAhVEGJQKHZfjB-UQFggaMAA=http%3A%2F%2Fstaging.btvin.com%2F=AFQjCNEV3TjhrU5cVKWDbrekPApkUz-shw=bv.139250283,d.dGo

The body of the email starts out:

"Dear costumer,
You recently requested a password reset for your Apple ID. To complete the 
process, click the link below.…”

If this really is from Google, I would really like to know why — it seems to me 
Google is getting far too big with tentacles into far too many things. I sent 
the information to Scamwatch.

Cheers,
Pat
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Re: Spam purported to be from Apple

[Stephen Chape]

Thank you Pat



> On 23 Nov. 2016, at 2:12 pm, clamsh...@iinet.net.au wrote:
> 
> Just a heads-up:
> 
> Received an email supposedly from Apple about resetting my Apple ID password 
> — claiming I recently requested a password reset for my Apple ID  — I didn’t. 
> Hovered my mouse over the several links in the email, and this is what it 
> said ( crippled the link):
> 
> ww.google.com.au/url?sa=t=j==s=web=1=rja=8=0ahUKEwimsKmOvL3QAhVEGJQKHZfjB-UQFggaMAA=http%3A%2F%2Fstaging.btvin.com%2F=AFQjCNEV3TjhrU5cVKWDbrekPApkUz-shw=bv.139250283,d.dGo
>  
> 
> The body of the email starts out: 
> 
> "Dear costumer,
> You recently requested a password reset for your Apple ID. To complete the 
> process, click the link below.…”
> 
> If this really is from Google, I would really like to know why — it seems to 
> me Google is getting far too big with tentacles into far too many things. I 
> sent the information to Scamwatch.
> 
> Cheers,
> Pat
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Re: Spam designation

[David Nicholas]

I didn’t get one either, Severin.

I was at the 1965 Albany Summer School.  It was excellent.  I can remember lots 
of the sessions.

I don’t think you were there, though.  Is that just my memory failing me?

David

> On 15 Jun 2016, at 3:38 PM, Severin Crisp  wrote:
> 
> You did not get one Neil as you were not at the 2016 school and requested 
> brochure send out by email rather than ordinary mail.  Seemed a good idea but 
> like so many simple things it does not always quite work like that!  
> Severin
> 
>> On 15 Jun 2016, at 11:20 AM, Neil Houghton  wrote:
>> 
>> 
> 
> __
>  
>  ALBANY SUMMER SCHOOL
>PO Box 5146
>Albany, WA, 6332
>Secretary, Severin Crisp
>15 Thomas St, Albany, WA, 6330
>Ph (08) 9842 1950
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>  http://www.albanysummerschool.com.au
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Re: Spam designation

[Severin Crisp]

You did not get one Neil as you were not at the 2016 school and requested 
brochure send out by email rather than ordinary mail.  Seemed a good idea but 
like so many simple things it does not always quite work like that!  
Severin

> On 15 Jun 2016, at 11:20 AM, Neil Houghton  wrote:
> 
> 

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 ALBANY SUMMER SCHOOL
   PO Box 5146
   Albany, WA, 6332
   Secretary, Severin Crisp
   15 Thomas St, Albany, WA, 6330
   Ph (08) 9842 1950
email  sevcr...@westnet.com.au
 http://www.albanysummerschool.com.au
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[Neil Houghton]

Hi Severin,

As a past student of the Albany Summer School, where is MY Albany Summer
School SPAM  ;o)


One thing I have noticed is that, as spammers get more creative, so spam
filters try and adapt and, in some cases, flag quite legitimate emails as
SPAM - also, one persons informative email is another persons SPAM - but
that's another story  ;o)


I believe, email clients will not classify emails from someone in your
address book as SPAM - which is why many organisations which communicate by
email add a message along the lines of:

**
To ensure that you always receive our correspondence directly into your
inbox please add albanysummersch...@westnet.com.au to your address book.
**

Just a thought.


HTH



Cheers




Neil
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Albany, Western Australia
Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
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on 14/6/16 13:37, Severin Crisp at sevcr...@westnet.com.au wrote:

> The Albany Summer School, of which I am secretary, is now communicating with
> large numbers (several hundred at a time)  of our students by email.
> Significant numbers are being interpreted by the receivers as Junk/SPAM.  
It
> is not clear whether this due to our ISP (Westnet) or further down the track.
> 
Can anyone please advise on how we may avoid this?  Should the group emails
> be sent to a single committee address and ³bcc² to the large group?  
Thank
> you
Severin Crisp
__

> 
 ALBANY SUMMER SCHOOL
   PO Box 5146

> Albany, WA, 6332
   Secretary, Severin Crisp
   15
> Thomas St, Albany, WA, 6330
   Ph (08) 9842 1950

> email  sevcr...@westnet.com.au

> http://www.albanysummerschool.com.au
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[Severin Crisp]

Thanks Ronni 
Sorry about that insomnia
Severin

Sent from Sev & Jenny's iPhone

> On 15 Jun 2016, at 6:54 AM, Ronda Brown  wrote:
> 
> Severin, A couple of other thoughts during my insomnia sleep last night.
> 
> 1. Check your Group recipients list for any invalid (no longer is use) email 
> addresses. An invalid address can cause a Spam flag to recipients further 
> down the list.
> 
> 2. Have easy 'Opt In' (subscribe) & Opt Out (unsubscribe) and a message 
> confirming.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
> 
> 
>> On 14 Jun 2016, at 10:12 PM, Severin Crisp  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks very much Ronni
>> 
>> 
>>> On 14 Jun 2016, at 8:19 PM, Ronni Brown  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Severin,
>>> 
>>> The Group emails are not interpreted as Spam from the sender’s ISP, but by 
>>> the receivers ISP and/or the client’s email spam filters.
>>> 
>>> Are you sending the Group emails using this email address:  
>>> albanysummersch...@westnet.com.au
>>> Some requirements: 
>>> 
>>> 1. Don’t use false or misleading header information. Your “From,” “To,” 
>>> “Reply-To,” and routing information – including the originating domain name 
>>> and email address – must be accurate and identify the person or business 
>>> who initiated the message.
>>> 
>>> 2. Don’t use deceptive subject lines. The subject line must accurately 
>>> reflect the content of the message.
>>> 
>>> 3. Tell recipients where you’re located. Your message must include your 
>>> valid physical postal address. This can be your current street address, a 
>>> post office box you’ve registered for Albany Summer School.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ronni
>>> 
>>> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
>>> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
>>> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
>>> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
>>> 
>>> El Capitan OS X 10.11.5
>>> 
 On 14 Jun 2016, at 1:37 PM, Severin Crisp  wrote:
 
 The Albany Summer School, of which I am secretary, is now communicating 
 with large numbers (several hundred at a time)  of our students by email. 
 Significant numbers are being interpreted by the receivers as Junk/SPAM.  
 It is not clear whether this due to our ISP (Westnet) or further down the 
 track. 
 Can anyone please advise on how we may avoid this?  Should the group 
 emails be sent to a single committee address and “bcc” to the large group? 
  
 Thank you
 Severin Crisp
 __
 
 ALBANY SUMMER SCHOOL
   PO Box 5146
   Albany, WA, 6332
   Secretary, Severin Crisp
   15 Thomas St, Albany, WA, 6330
   Ph (08) 9842 1950
email  sevcr...@westnet.com.au
 http://www.albanysummerschool.com.au
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Severin, A couple of other thoughts during my insomnia sleep last night.

1. Check your Group recipients list for any invalid (no longer is use) email 
addresses. An invalid address can cause a Spam flag to recipients further down 
the list.

2. Have easy 'Opt In' (subscribe) & Opt Out (unsubscribe) and a message 
confirming.

Cheers,
Ronni

Sent from Ronni's iPad4


> On 14 Jun 2016, at 10:12 PM, Severin Crisp  wrote:
> 
> Thanks very much Ronni
> 
> 
>> On 14 Jun 2016, at 8:19 PM, Ronni Brown  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Severin,
>> 
>> The Group emails are not interpreted as Spam from the sender’s ISP, but by 
>> the receivers ISP and/or the client’s email spam filters.
>> 
>> Are you sending the Group emails using this email address:  
>> albanysummersch...@westnet.com.au
>> Some requirements: 
>> 
>> 1. Don’t use false or misleading header information. Your “From,” “To,” 
>> “Reply-To,” and routing information – including the originating domain name 
>> and email address – must be accurate and identify the person or business who 
>> initiated the message.
>> 
>> 2. Don’t use deceptive subject lines. The subject line must accurately 
>> reflect the content of the message.
>> 
>> 3. Tell recipients where you’re located. Your message must include your 
>> valid physical postal address. This can be your current street address, a 
>> post office box you’ve registered for Albany Summer School.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> 
>> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
>> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
>> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
>> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
>> 
>> El Capitan OS X 10.11.5
>> 
>>> On 14 Jun 2016, at 1:37 PM, Severin Crisp  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The Albany Summer School, of which I am secretary, is now communicating 
>>> with large numbers (several hundred at a time)  of our students by email. 
>>> Significant numbers are being interpreted by the receivers as Junk/SPAM.  
>>> It is not clear whether this due to our ISP (Westnet) or further down the 
>>> track. 
>>> Can anyone please advise on how we may avoid this?  Should the group emails 
>>> be sent to a single committee address and “bcc” to the large group?  
>>> Thank you
>>> Severin Crisp
>>> __
>>> 
>>> ALBANY SUMMER SCHOOL
>>>   PO Box 5146
>>>   Albany, WA, 6332
>>>   Secretary, Severin Crisp
>>>   15 Thomas St, Albany, WA, 6330
>>>   Ph (08) 9842 1950
>>>email  sevcr...@westnet.com.au
>>> http://www.albanysummerschool.com.au
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[Severin Crisp]

Thanks very much Ronni


> On 14 Jun 2016, at 8:19 PM, Ronni Brown  wrote:
> 
> Hi Severin,
> 
> The Group emails are not interpreted as Spam from the sender’s ISP, but by 
> the receivers ISP and/or the client’s email spam filters.
> 
> Are you sending the Group emails using this email address:  
> albanysummersch...@westnet.com.au 
> Some requirements: 
> 
> 1. Don’t use false or misleading header information. Your “From,” “To,” 
> “Reply-To,” and routing information – including the originating domain name 
> and email address – must be accurate and identify the person or business who 
> initiated the message.
> 
> 2. Don’t use deceptive subject lines. The subject line must accurately 
> reflect the content of the message.
> 
> 3. Tell recipients where you’re located. Your message must include your valid 
> physical postal address. This can be your current street address, a post 
> office box you’ve registered for Albany Summer School.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
> 
> El Capitan OS X 10.11.5
> 
>> On 14 Jun 2016, at 1:37 PM, Severin Crisp > > wrote:
>> 
>> The Albany Summer School, of which I am secretary, is now communicating with 
>> large numbers (several hundred at a time)  of our students by email. 
>> Significant numbers are being interpreted by the receivers as Junk/SPAM.  
>> It is not clear whether this due to our ISP (Westnet) or further down the 
>> track. 
>> Can anyone please advise on how we may avoid this?  Should the group emails 
>> be sent to a single committee address and “bcc” to the large group?  
>> Thank you
>> Severin Crisp
>> __
>> 
>> ALBANY SUMMER SCHOOL
>>   PO Box 5146
>>   Albany, WA, 6332
>>   Secretary, Severin Crisp
>>   15 Thomas St, Albany, WA, 6330
>>   Ph (08) 9842 1950
>>email  sevcr...@westnet.com.au 
>> http://www.albanysummerschool.com.au 
>> 
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Hi Severin,

The Group emails are not interpreted as Spam from the sender’s ISP, but by the 
receivers ISP and/or the client’s email spam filters.

Are you sending the Group emails using this email address:  
albanysummersch...@westnet.com.au 
Some requirements: 

1. Don’t use false or misleading header information. Your “From,” “To,” 
“Reply-To,” and routing information – including the originating domain name and 
email address – must be accurate and identify the person or business who 
initiated the message.

2. Don’t use deceptive subject lines. The subject line must accurately reflect 
the content of the message.

3. Tell recipients where you’re located. Your message must include your valid 
physical postal address. This can be your current street address, a post office 
box you’ve registered for Albany Summer School.

Cheers,
Ronni

13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage

El Capitan OS X 10.11.5

> On 14 Jun 2016, at 1:37 PM, Severin Crisp  wrote:
> 
> The Albany Summer School, of which I am secretary, is now communicating with 
> large numbers (several hundred at a time)  of our students by email. 
> Significant numbers are being interpreted by the receivers as Junk/SPAM.  
> It is not clear whether this due to our ISP (Westnet) or further down the 
> track. 
> Can anyone please advise on how we may avoid this?  Should the group emails 
> be sent to a single committee address and “bcc” to the large group?  
> Thank you
> Severin Crisp
> __
> 
> ALBANY SUMMER SCHOOL
>   PO Box 5146
>   Albany, WA, 6332
>   Secretary, Severin Crisp
>   15 Thomas St, Albany, WA, 6330
>   Ph (08) 9842 1950
>email  sevcr...@westnet.com.au
> http://www.albanysummerschool.com.au
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[Marcus F Harris]

Thanks Ronni.
Your comments re CC vs BCC are spot on. Also I wasn't suggesting Jennifer was 
doing this, I was simply wondering if it was the case.
Best to all
Marcus

Sent from Marcus iPhone 5

 On 21 Mar 2015, at 7:40 am, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hello Jennifer,
 
 I was not inferring that you had sent any group CC email messages. 
 My reply was in answer to Marcus's query - 
 Re: receiving group messages that show all recipients addresses CC instead of 
 BCC recipients addresses hidden.
 
 That is why I deleted all your text below Marcus's message. 
 
 In answer to your query:
 iCloud has very good SPAM/junk mail filters in place on their server which 
 stops SPAM before it gets to your Inbox.
  
 You can use the Mail app to mark messages as junk so that later messages from 
 the same sender are automatically marked as junk:
 In iOS 7 or later, open the message, tap the flag icon at the bottom (top iOS 
 8.2), then tap Move to Junk.
 In OS X, select the message and click the Junk (thumbs down) icon in the Mail 
 toolbar.
 At iCloud.com, select the message, then click the flag icon and choose Move 
 to Junk. Or just drag the message to the Junk folder in the sidebar. The 
 message is then automatically reported to iCloud as junk mail.
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
 
 OS X Yosemite 10.10.2
 
 
 On 20 Mar 2015, at 4:12 pm, Jennifer Lefroy lefroy.jenni...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hello Everyone,
 
 I haven't sent out any mass emails and while our desktop sends the spam to 
 junk, this does't happen on the iPhone or iPad and I don't know of any way 
 of separating junk on them. Perhaps the only remedy is to close those 
 accounts for now,and put up with the nuisance.
 
 Regards, 
 Jennifer
  
 
 On 20 March 2015 at 15:32, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 Hi Marcus and others,
 
 Unless you are sending a group email to a number of people that need to 
 know who is being sent this email - example work project that all the 
 recipients are all involved in - or a group family email or similar perhaps 
 ok to CC
 
 Otherwise you should use the BCC field.
 Two main reasons why you should use BCC
 
 Privacy: we certainly wouldn't write the phone numbers of our friends, work 
 colleagues or family members in public places, so why would we do it with 
 their email addresses? These are also personal information and it's a 
 matter of respect for their privacy to keep this information to ourselves, 
 instead of spreading it around the internet, making it accessible to 
 strangers (who may eventually spread it to even more strangers).
 Spam  Viruses: we don't know which hands the email addresses will end up 
 in if we send them to our contacts - they may end up in the hands of 
 spammers, for instance, or added to lists containing hundreds of thousands 
 of email addresses, which are then sold on the black market. The result is 
 that the recipients of the original message will start getting more and 
 more spam, wasting their time and maybe even some important emails in the 
 middle of all the junk-mail. Additionally, if the computer of one of our 
 recipients is infected with a virus, it can collect all the addresses 
 available in the message and send a copy of itself to each one address in 
 an attempt to spread itself to other computers, or may simply collect the 
 addresses to aggregate them in one of the lists I mentioned above, that 
 spammers love to buy.
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 
 On 20 Mar 2015, at 1:38 pm, Marcus F Harris cryptodo...@me.com wrote:
 
 My apple mail filters dozens of these to junk.
 I have this uncertain idea that new SPAM starts when people CC their mail 
 to many friends/colleagues instead of BCC.
 I'm interested to know if that could be the case. 
 Cheers
 Marcus
 
 Sent from Marcus iPhone 5
 
 
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Re: Spam bombing

[Jennifer Lefroy]

Dear Ronni and Marcus,
I really wasn't suspecting an accusation!  Just clarifying that this was
not a possible trigger.  Because of the way our accounts are set up we have
chosen not to use iCloud (probably an indication of our lack of knowhow).
For the present, I think I will close mail on my phone and iPad and then
when I see from my junk mail on the desk top that the spam has subsided, I
can start them up again.
There must be a lot of very strange and sad people in this cyber world! :-)

Thank you all for your suggestions and information.

Regards,
Jennifer

On 21 March 2015 at 16:28, Marcus F Harris cryptodo...@me.com wrote:

 Thanks Ronni.
 Your comments re CC vs BCC are spot on. Also I wasn't suggesting Jennifer
 was doing this, I was simply wondering if it was the case.
 Best to all
 Marcus

 Sent from Marcus iPhone 5

 On 21 Mar 2015, at 7:40 am, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:

 Hello Jennifer,

 I was not inferring that you had sent any group CC email messages.
 My reply was in answer to Marcus's query -
 Re: receiving group messages that show all recipients addresses CC instead
 of BCC recipients addresses hidden.

 That is why I deleted all your text below Marcus's message.

 In answer to your query:
 iCloud has very good SPAM/junk mail filters in place on their server which
 stops SPAM before it gets to your Inbox.

 You can use the Mail app to mark messages as junk so that later messages
 from the same sender are automatically marked as junk:

- In iOS 7 or later, open the message, tap the flag icon at the bottom
(top iOS 8.2), then tap *Move to Junk*.
- In OS X, select the message and click the *Junk *(thumbs down) icon
in the Mail toolbar.
- At iCloud.com https://www.icloud.com/, select the message, then
click the flag icon and choose *Move to Junk*. Or just drag the
message to the Junk folder in the sidebar. The message is then
automatically reported to iCloud as junk mail.

 Cheers,
 Ronni

 *13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)*
 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage

 OS X Yosemite 10.10.2


 On 20 Mar 2015, at 4:12 pm, Jennifer Lefroy lefroy.jenni...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hello Everyone,

 I haven't sent out any mass emails and while our desktop sends the spam to
 junk, this does't happen on the iPhone or iPad and I don't know of any way
 of separating junk on them. Perhaps the only remedy is to close those
 accounts for now,and put up with the nuisance.

 Regards,
 Jennifer


 On 20 March 2015 at 15:32, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:

 Hi Marcus and others,

 Unless you are sending a group email to a number of people that *need to
 know *who is being sent this email - example work project that all the
 recipients are all involved in - or a group family email or similar perhaps
 ok to CC

 Otherwise you *should use the BCC field.*

 Two main reasons why you should use BCC

- *Privacy:* we certainly wouldn't write the phone numbers of our
friends, work colleagues or family members in public places, so why would
we do it with their email addresses? These are also personal information
and it's a matter of respect for their privacy to keep this information to
ourselves, instead of spreading it around the internet, making it
accessible to strangers (who may eventually spread it to even more
strangers).
- *Spam  Viruses:* we don't know which hands the email addresses
will end up in if we send them to our contacts - they may end up in the
hands of spammers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spam_(electronic),
for instance, or added to lists containing hundreds of thousands of email
addresses, which are then sold on the black market. The result is that the
recipients of the original message will start getting more and more spam,
wasting their time and maybe even some important emails in the middle of
all the junk-mail. Additionally, if the computer of one of our recipients
is infected with a virus, it can collect all the addresses available in 
 the
message and send a copy of itself to each one address in an attempt to
spread itself to other computers, or may simply collect the addresses to
aggregate them in one of the lists I mentioned above, that spammers love 
 to
buy.

 Cheers,
 Ronni

 Sent from Ronni's iPad4


 On 20 Mar 2015, at 1:38 pm, Marcus F Harris cryptodo...@me.com wrote:

 My apple mail filters dozens of these to junk.
 I have this uncertain idea that new SPAM starts when people CC their mail
 to many friends/colleagues instead of BCC.
 I'm interested to know if that could be the case.
 Cheers
 Marcus

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Re: Spam bombing

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Marcus and others,

Unless you are sending a group email to a number of people that need to know 
who is being sent this email - example work project that all the recipients are 
all involved in - or a group family email or similar perhaps ok to CC

Otherwise you should use the BCC field.
Two main reasons why you should use BCC

Privacy: we certainly wouldn't write the phone numbers of our friends, work 
colleagues or family members in public places, so why would we do it with their 
email addresses? These are also personal information and it's a matter of 
respect for their privacy to keep this information to ourselves, instead of 
spreading it around the internet, making it accessible to strangers (who may 
eventually spread it to even more strangers).
Spam  Viruses: we don't know which hands the email addresses will end up in if 
we send them to our contacts - they may end up in the hands of spammers, for 
instance, or added to lists containing hundreds of thousands of email 
addresses, which are then sold on the black market. The result is that the 
recipients of the original message will start getting more and more spam, 
wasting their time and maybe even some important emails in the middle of all 
the junk-mail. Additionally, if the computer of one of our recipients is 
infected with a virus, it can collect all the addresses available in the 
message and send a copy of itself to each one address in an attempt to spread 
itself to other computers, or may simply collect the addresses to aggregate 
them in one of the lists I mentioned above, that spammers love to buy.
Cheers,
Ronni

Sent from Ronni's iPad4


 On 20 Mar 2015, at 1:38 pm, Marcus F Harris cryptodo...@me.com wrote:
 
 My apple mail filters dozens of these to junk.
 I have this uncertain idea that new SPAM starts when people CC their mail to 
 many friends/colleagues instead of BCC.
 I'm interested to know if that could be the case. 
 Cheers
 Marcus
 
 Sent from Marcus iPhone 5
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Re: Spam bombing

[Jennifer Lefroy]

Hello Everyone,

I haven't sent out any mass emails and while our desktop sends the spam to
junk, this does't happen on the iPhone or iPad and I don't know of any way
of separating junk on them. Perhaps the only remedy is to close those
accounts for now,and put up with the nuisance.

Regards,
Jennifer


On 20 March 2015 at 15:32, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:

 Hi Marcus and others,

 Unless you are sending a group email to a number of people that *need to
 know *who is being sent this email - example work project that all the
 recipients are all involved in - or a group family email or similar perhaps
 ok to CC

 Otherwise you *should use the BCC field.*

 Two main reasons why you should use BCC

- *Privacy:* we certainly wouldn't write the phone numbers of our
friends, work colleagues or family members in public places, so why would
we do it with their email addresses? These are also personal information
and it's a matter of respect for their privacy to keep this information to
ourselves, instead of spreading it around the internet, making it
accessible to strangers (who may eventually spread it to even more
strangers).
- *Spam  Viruses:* we don't know which hands the email addresses will
end up in if we send them to our contacts - they may end up in the hands of
spammers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spam_(electronic), for
instance, or added to lists containing hundreds of thousands of email
addresses, which are then sold on the black market. The result is that the
recipients of the original message will start getting more and more spam,
wasting their time and maybe even some important emails in the middle of
all the junk-mail. Additionally, if the computer of one of our recipients
is infected with a virus, it can collect all the addresses available in the
message and send a copy of itself to each one address in an attempt to
spread itself to other computers, or may simply collect the addresses to
aggregate them in one of the lists I mentioned above, that spammers love to
buy.

 Cheers,
 Ronni

 Sent from Ronni's iPad4


 On 20 Mar 2015, at 1:38 pm, Marcus F Harris cryptodo...@me.com wrote:

 My apple mail filters dozens of these to junk.
 I have this uncertain idea that new SPAM starts when people CC their mail
 to many friends/colleagues instead of BCC.
 I'm interested to know if that could be the case.
 Cheers
 Marcus

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[Ronda Brown]

Hello Jennifer,

I was not inferring that you had sent any group CC email messages. 
My reply was in answer to Marcus's query - 
Re: receiving group messages that show all recipients addresses CC instead of 
BCC recipients addresses hidden.

That is why I deleted all your text below Marcus's message. 

In answer to your query:
iCloud has very good SPAM/junk mail filters in place on their server which 
stops SPAM before it gets to your Inbox.
 
You can use the Mail app to mark messages as junk so that later messages from 
the same sender are automatically marked as junk:
In iOS 7 or later, open the message, tap the flag icon at the bottom (top iOS 
8.2), then tap Move to Junk.
In OS X, select the message and click the Junk (thumbs down) icon in the Mail 
toolbar.
At iCloud.com https://www.icloud.com/, select the message, then click the 
flag icon and choose Move to Junk. Or just drag the message to the Junk folder 
in the sidebar. The message is then automatically reported to iCloud as junk 
mail.
Cheers,
Ronni

13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage

OS X Yosemite 10.10.2


On 20 Mar 2015, at 4:12 pm, Jennifer Lefroy lefroy.jenni...@gmail.com 
mailto:lefroy.jenni...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello Everyone,
 
 I haven't sent out any mass emails and while our desktop sends the spam to 
 junk, this does't happen on the iPhone or iPad and I don't know of any way of 
 separating junk on them. Perhaps the only remedy is to close those accounts 
 for now,and put up with the nuisance.
 
 Regards, 
 Jennifer
  
 
 On 20 March 2015 at 15:32, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com mailto:ro...@mac.com 
 wrote:
 Hi Marcus and others,
 
 Unless you are sending a group email to a number of people that need to know 
 who is being sent this email - example work project that all the recipients 
 are all involved in - or a group family email or similar perhaps ok to CC
 
 Otherwise you should use the BCC field.
 Two main reasons why you should use BCC
 
 Privacy: we certainly wouldn't write the phone numbers of our friends, work 
 colleagues or family members in public places, so why would we do it with 
 their email addresses? These are also personal information and it's a matter 
 of respect for their privacy to keep this information to ourselves, instead 
 of spreading it around the internet, making it accessible to strangers (who 
 may eventually spread it to even more strangers).
 Spam  Viruses: we don't know which hands the email addresses will end up in 
 if we send them to our contacts - they may end up in the hands of spammers 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spam_(electronic), for instance, or added to 
 lists containing hundreds of thousands of email addresses, which are then 
 sold on the black market. The result is that the recipients of the original 
 message will start getting more and more spam, wasting their time and maybe 
 even some important emails in the middle of all the junk-mail. Additionally, 
 if the computer of one of our recipients is infected with a virus, it can 
 collect all the addresses available in the message and send a copy of itself 
 to each one address in an attempt to spread itself to other computers, or may 
 simply collect the addresses to aggregate them in one of the lists I 
 mentioned above, that spammers love to buy.
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 
 On 20 Mar 2015, at 1:38 pm, Marcus F Harris cryptodo...@me.com 
 mailto:cryptodo...@me.com wrote:
 
 My apple mail filters dozens of these to junk.
 I have this uncertain idea that new SPAM starts when people CC their mail to 
 many friends/colleagues instead of BCC.
 I'm interested to know if that could be the case. 
 Cheers
 Marcus
 
 Sent from Marcus iPhone 5


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Re: Spam bombing

[Marcus F Harris]

My apple mail filters dozens of these to junk.
I have this uncertain idea that new SPAM starts when people CC their mail to 
many friends/colleagues instead of BCC.
I'm interested to know if that could be the case. 
Cheers
Marcus

Sent from Marcus iPhone 5

 On 20 Mar 2015, at 12:02 pm, Jennifer Lefroy lefroy.jenni...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 We are being bombed this week with what might be described as pornographic 
 spam on macmail: 20 or so when I opened mail this morning and several since.  
  For a few weeks previously we were getting a few offers every day to improve 
 our non existant website.
 
 I assume we can only wait for them to die down, but I wonder if it is 
 happening on this scale to others. 
 
 Regards,
 Jennifer
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Re: Spam bombing

[Anthony (Tony) Francis]

 On 20 Mar 2015, at 12:02 pm, Jennifer Lefroy lefroy.jenni...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 We are being bombed this week with what might be described as pornographic 
 spam on macmail: 20 or so when I opened mail this morning and several since.  
  For a few weeks previously we were getting a few offers every day to improve 
 our non existant website.
 
 I assume we can only wait for them to die down, but I wonder if it is 
 happening on this scale to others. 
 
 Regards,
 Jennifer
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Nothing on my Computer Jennifer.

Tony

BODDINGTON
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Re: Spam.

[Anthony (Tony) Francis]

Hello out there

Here's another one, I have forwarded both e-mails to the Report SPAM site.

Cheers everyone.

Tony Francis

BODDINGTON/

Begin forwarded message:

 From: Anthony (Tony) Francis antne...@mac.com
 Subject: Fwd: Can I Trust You..?
 Date: 25 May 2014 3:07:37 PM AWST
 To: rep...@submit.spamacma.gov.au
 
 
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 
 From: Pete Dawkins (MG) m...@talktalk.net
 Subject: Re: Can I Trust You..?
 Date: 7 May 2014 7:11:45 PM AWST
 To: Undisclosed recipients: ;
 
 
 
 I am a US Army currently serving in the mission in Afghanistan. There is 
 something i need to discuss with you . Can i trust you?. Kindly reply to me 
 on mjrgen.petedawk...@usa.com , for details. Thanks
 Pete Dawkins (MG).
 
 
 

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Re: Spam, phishing pretending to be PayPal

[Reg Whitely]

Thanks for this Geoff

I've been having a bit of a play around with your whois info and discovered 
that 33478 Domain(s) Use creativedreams...@gmail.com As Whois Email. See 
http://www.webboar.com/whois-email/page:1/creativedreams365%40gmail.com;. 
That's quite a lot. Here's the streetview of the address  20 WEST 87TH STREET 
NY: http://goo.gl/maps/3EKoK. Quite a business!

Reg


On 09/10/2013, at 12:46 pm, Geoff and Kaye k...@kgweb.org.au wrote:

 Reg
 
 On 09/10/2013, at 12:10 PM, Reg Whitely wrote:
 
 
 Hi WAMUGgers
 
 I've just received this email, purported to be from PayPal. I've not had 
 any transactions with the png palm oil people, whoever they are, and have 
 sent a copy to phish...@paypal.com.au as requested by Paypal (see 
 https://www.paypal.com/au/webapps/mpp/security/antiphishing-ppphishingreport)
 
 What do you think? There has been no recent transaction movements in my 
 account.
 
 A whois on the domain name png.com returns:
 
 ---
 Domain name: png.com
 
 Administrative Contact:
   -
   DHARSHINEE NAIDU (creativedreams...@gmail.com)
   +1.9173101384
   Fax: -
   20 WEST 87TH STREET
   NEW YORK, NY 10024
   US
 -
 
 You would think that Mr Naidu is unlikely to be in the palm oil business in 
 Papua New Guinea.
 
 Regards
 
 Geoff
 --
 Geoff and Kaye
 k...@kgweb.org.au
 
 
 
 
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Re: Spam, phishing pretending to be PayPal

[Julie Bedford]

Reg
I have just received a duplicate which you have, same amount etc.   I'm now 
uneasy going to the paypal link,
so will try on my existing links to cancel

Thanks for posting

Jewels

On 09/10/2013, at 12:10 PM, Reg Whitely wrote:

 This is the plain text version. Please delete the previous one from your 
 mailbox:
 
 From: PayPal  refunds.serv...@admin.net
 Subject: Receipt for your PayPal payment to administrat...@png.com
 Date: 9 October 2013 11:14:40 am AWST
 To: rwhit...@internode.on.net
 X-Default-Received-Spf: pass (skip=trusted (res=PASS)) 
 x-ip-name=150.101.137.143;
 Received: from ipmail05.adl6.internode.on.net (unverified [150.101.137.143])  
 by mail.internode.on.net (SurgeMail 5.3i) with ESMTP id 175089352-1927428  
 for rwhit...@internode.on.net; Wed, 09 Oct 2013 13:45:00 +1030 (CDT)
 Received: from icp-osb-irony-out8.external.iinet.net.au ([203.59.1.225]) by 
 ipmailmx05.adl6.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 09 Oct 2013 13:44:53 +1030
 Received: from unknown (HELO server-PC) ([203.59.132.147]) by 
 icp-osb-irony-out8.iinet.net.au with ESMTP; 09 Oct 2013 11:14:40 +0800
 Return-Path: refunds.serv...@admin.net
 X-Ironport-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true
 X-Ironport-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true
 X-Ironport-Anti-Spam-Result: 
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 boundary=JlTFDpWU5=_4P1gkjxRixDTFAZ4ipDGjCo0
 Mime-Version: 1.0
 X-Rcpt-To: rwhit...@internode.on.net
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 match=-1.0, From3consonants=0.7, Possible url forgery/scam=2.0
 X-Urlforgery: (http://worldtrans.com.cn) (http://www.paypal.com.au)
 X-Spamcontent: Clean
 X-Langguess: English
 X-Ip-Stats: Incoming Last 0, First 497, in=29956, out=0, spam=0 
 ip=203.59.1.225
 Status: U
 X-Uidl: 91694
 
  
 9 Oct 2013 06:19:34 AEST
 Transaction ID: 71PN116NA799763R
 Hello rwhit...@internode.on.net,
 
 You sent a payment of 427.00 AUD to administrat...@png.com
 We've asked the seller to ship.
 
 Thanks for using PayPal. To view the transaction details, log in to your 
 PayPal account.
 
 
 It may take a few moments for this transaction to appear in the Recent 
 Activity list in your Account Overview.
 
 
 Seller
 administrat...@png.com
 Note to seller
 You haven't included a note.
 Sender address
 Papua New Guinea's Palm Oil, PNG
 Shipping details
 The seller hasn’t provided any shipping details yet.
 
 Description
 Unit price
 Qty
 Amount
 Oil recipients ( Papua New Guinea's)
 Item number 17393949551
 $427.00 AUD
 1
 $427.00 AUD
  
 Shipping and handling
 $5.00 AUD
 Insurance - not offered
 
 Total
 $432.00 AUD
 Payment
 $432.00 AUD
 
 Payment sent to administrat...@png.com
 
 
 Issues with this transaction?
 If you haven't authorized this transaction ,click the link below to get full 
 refund.
  Go to the Help Centre at: http://www.paypal.com.au/AUD/RefundForm
 
 
  This mailbox is not monitored and you will not receive a response. For 
 assistance, log in to your PayPal account and click Help in the top right 
 corner of any PayPal page.
 
 To receive emails as plain text instead of HTML, change your Notifications 
 preferences. Just log in to your PayPal account, go to your Profile and click 
 My Settings.
 
 
 
 Copyright © 1999-2013 PayPal, Inc. All rights reserved.
 PayPal Australia Pty Limited ABN 93 111 195 389 (AFSL 304962). Any general 
 financial product advice provided in this site has not taken into account 
 your objectives, financial situations or needs.
 PayPal Email ID PP1120 
 
 On 09/10/2013, at 11:53 am, Reg Whitely rwhit...@internode.on.net wrote:
 
 Hi WAMUGgers
 
 I've just received this email, purported to be from PayPal. I've not had any 
 transactions with the png palm oil people, whoever they are, and have sent a 
 copy to phish...@paypal.com.au as requested by Paypal (see 
 https://www.paypal.com/au/webapps/mpp/security/antiphishing-ppphishingreport)
 
 What do you think? There has been no recent transaction movements in my 
 account.
 
 Here is a plain text copy of the email
 
 Reg
 
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Re: Spam, phishing pretending to be PayPal

[Ronda Brown]

Don't click on any of the links in the Email Jewels... Just delete the email.

Cheers,
Ronni
Sent from Ronni's iPad4

 On 9 Oct 2013, at 5:47 pm, Julie Bedford jew...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Reg
 I have just received a duplicate which you have, same amount etc.   I'm now 
 uneasy going to the paypal link,
 so will try on my existing links to cancel
 
 Thanks for posting
 
 Jewels
 
 On 09/10/2013, at 12:10 PM, Reg Whitely wrote:
 
 This is the plain text version. Please delete the previous one from your 
 mailbox:
 
 From: PayPal  refunds.serv...@admin.net
 Subject: Receipt for your PayPal payment to administrat...@png.com
 Date: 9 October 2013 11:14:40 am AWST
 To: rwhit...@internode.on.net
 X-Default-Received-Spf: pass (skip=trusted (res=PASS)) 
 x-ip-name=150.101.137.143;
 Received: from ipmail05.adl6.internode.on.net (unverified [150.101.137.143]) 
  by mail.internode.on.net (SurgeMail 5.3i) with ESMTP id 175089352-1927428  
 for rwhit...@internode.on.net; Wed, 09 Oct 2013 13:45:00 +1030 (CDT)
 Received: from icp-osb-irony-out8.external.iinet.net.au ([203.59.1.225]) by 
 ipmailmx05.adl6.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 09 Oct 2013 13:44:53 +1030
 Received: from unknown (HELO server-PC) ([203.59.132.147]) by 
 icp-osb-irony-out8.iinet.net.au with ESMTP; 09 Oct 2013 11:14:40 +0800
 Return-Path: refunds.serv...@admin.net
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 X-Urlforgery: (http://worldtrans.com.cn) (http://www.paypal.com.au)
 X-Spamcontent: Clean
 X-Langguess: English
 X-Ip-Stats: Incoming Last 0, First 497, in=29956, out=0, spam=0 
 ip=203.59.1.225
 Status: U
 X-Uidl: 91694
 
  
 9 Oct 2013 06:19:34 AEST
 Transaction ID: 71PN116NA799763R
 Hello rwhit...@internode.on.net,
 
 You sent a payment of 427.00 AUD to administrat...@png.com
 We've asked the seller to ship.
 
 Thanks for using PayPal. To view the transaction details, log in to your 
 PayPal account.
 
 
 It may take a few moments for this transaction to appear in the Recent 
 Activity list in your Account Overview.
 
 
 Seller
 administrat...@png.com
 Note to seller
 You haven't included a note.
 Sender address
 Papua New Guinea's Palm Oil, PNG
 Shipping details
 The seller hasn’t provided any shipping details yet.
 
 Description
 Unit price
 Qty
 Amount
 Oil recipients ( Papua New Guinea's)
 Item number 17393949551
 $427.00 AUD
 1
 $427.00 AUD
  
 Shipping and handling
 $5.00 AUD
 Insurance - not offered
 
 Total
 $432.00 AUD
 Payment
 $432.00 AUD
 
 Payment sent to administrat...@png.com
 
 
 Issues with this transaction?
 If you haven't authorized this transaction ,click the link below to get full 
 refund.
  Go to the Help Centre at: http://www.paypal.com.au/AUD/RefundForm
 
 
  This mailbox is not monitored and you will not receive a response. For 
 assistance, log in to your PayPal account and click Help in the top right 
 corner of any PayPal page.
 
 To receive emails as plain text instead of HTML, change your Notifications 
 preferences. Just log in to your PayPal account, go to your Profile and 
 click My Settings.
 
 
 
 Copyright © 1999-2013 PayPal, Inc. All rights reserved.
 PayPal Australia Pty Limited ABN 93 111 195 389 (AFSL 304962). Any general 
 financial product advice provided in this site has not taken into account 
 your objectives, financial situations or needs.
 PayPal Email ID PP1120 
 
 On 09/10/2013, at 11:53 am, Reg Whitely rwhit...@internode.on.net wrote:
 
 Hi WAMUGgers
 
 I've just received this email, purported to be from PayPal. I've not had 
 any transactions with the png palm oil people, whoever they are, and have 
 sent a copy to phish...@paypal.com.au as requested by Paypal (see 
 https://www.paypal.com/au/webapps/mpp/security/antiphishing-ppphishingreport)
 
 What do you think? There has been no recent transaction movements in my 
 account.
 
 Here is a plain text copy of the email
 
 Reg
 
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Re: Spam, phishing pretending to be PayPal

[Rick Armstrong]

I agree, report it to PayPal but as it already has been, so delete the email 
then separately go to PayPal and just check your balance, you will find no 
unauthorised transactions have been made so you don't have to do anything. I 
have had three very different emails over the last year like this. Rick.

On 09/10/2013, at 5:56 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:

 Don't click on any of the links in the Email Jewels... Just delete the email.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 On 9 Oct 2013, at 5:47 pm, Julie Bedford jew...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Reg
 I have just received a duplicate which you have, same amount etc.   I'm now 
 uneasy going to the paypal link,
 so will try on my existing links to cancel
 
 Thanks for posting
 
 Jewels
 
 On 09/10/2013, at 12:10 PM, Reg Whitely wrote:
 
 This is the plain text version. Please delete the previous one from your 
 mailbox:
 
 From: PayPal  refunds.serv...@admin.net
 Subject: Receipt for your PayPal payment to administrat...@png.com
 Date: 9 October 2013 11:14:40 am AWST
 To: rwhit...@internode.on.net
 X-Default-Received-Spf: pass (skip=trusted (res=PASS)) 
 x-ip-name=150.101.137.143;
 Received: from ipmail05.adl6.internode.on.net (unverified 
 [150.101.137.143])  by mail.internode.on.net (SurgeMail 5.3i) with ESMTP id 
 175089352-1927428  for rwhit...@internode.on.net; Wed, 09 Oct 2013 
 13:45:00 +1030 (CDT)
 Received: from icp-osb-irony-out8.external.iinet.net.au ([203.59.1.225]) by 
 ipmailmx05.adl6.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 09 Oct 2013 13:44:53 +1030
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 X-Urlforgery: (http://worldtrans.com.cn) (http://www.paypal.com.au)
 X-Spamcontent: Clean
 X-Langguess: English
 X-Ip-Stats: Incoming Last 0, First 497, in=29956, out=0, spam=0 
 ip=203.59.1.225
 Status: U
 X-Uidl: 91694
 
  
 9 Oct 2013 06:19:34 AEST
 Transaction ID: 71PN116NA799763R
 Hello rwhit...@internode.on.net,
 
 You sent a payment of 427.00 AUD to administrat...@png.com
 We've asked the seller to ship.
 
 Thanks for using PayPal. To view the transaction details, log in to your 
 PayPal account.
 
 
 It may take a few moments for this transaction to appear in the Recent 
 Activity list in your Account Overview.
 
 
 Seller
 administrat...@png.com
 Note to seller
 You haven't included a note.
 Sender address
 Papua New Guinea's Palm Oil, PNG
 Shipping details
 The seller hasn’t provided any shipping details yet.
 
 Description
 Unit price
 Qty
 Amount
 Oil recipients ( Papua New Guinea's)
 Item number 17393949551
 $427.00 AUD
 1
 $427.00 AUD
  
 Shipping and handling
 $5.00 AUD
 Insurance - not offered
 
 Total
 $432.00 AUD
 Payment
 $432.00 AUD
 
 Payment sent to administrat...@png.com
 
 
 Issues with this transaction?
 If you haven't authorized this transaction ,click the link below to get 
 full refund.
  Go to the Help Centre at: http://www.paypal.com.au/AUD/RefundForm
 
 
  This mailbox is not monitored and you will not receive a response. For 
 assistance, log in to your PayPal account and click Help in the top right 
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 On 09/10/2013, at 11:53 am, Reg Whitely rwhit...@internode.on.net wrote:
 
 Hi WAMUGgers
 
 I've just received this email, purported to be from PayPal. I've not had 
 any transactions with the png palm oil people, whoever they are, and have 
 sent a copy to phish...@paypal.com.au as requested by Paypal (see 
 https://www.paypal.com/au/webapps/mpp/security/antiphishing-ppphishingreport)
 
 What do you 

Re: Spam, phishing pretending to be PayPal

[Reg Whitely]

I'm a bit more cautious as such things are worrisome. I've changed my PayPal 
email address and password, even though there has been no activity in my 
account for over a month.

Reg

On 09/10/2013, at 6:08 pm, Rick Armstrong a...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 I agree, report it to PayPal but as it already has been, so delete the email 
 then separately go to PayPal and just check your balance, you will find no 
 unauthorised transactions have been made so you don't have to do anything. I 
 have had three very different emails over the last year like this. Rick.
 
 On 09/10/2013, at 5:56 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Don't click on any of the links in the Email Jewels... Just delete the email.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 On 9 Oct 2013, at 5:47 pm, Julie Bedford jew...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Reg
 I have just received a duplicate which you have, same amount etc.   I'm now 
 uneasy going to the paypal link,
 so will try on my existing links to cancel
 
 Thanks for posting
 
 Jewels
 
 On 09/10/2013, at 12:10 PM, Reg Whitely wrote:
 
 This is the plain text version. Please delete the previous one from your 
 mailbox:
 
 From: PayPal  refunds.serv...@admin.net
 Subject: Receipt for your PayPal payment to administrat...@png.com
 Date: 9 October 2013 11:14:40 am AWST
 To: rwhit...@internode.on.net
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 X-Uidl: 91694
 
  
 9 Oct 2013 06:19:34 AEST
 Transaction ID: 71PN116NA799763R
 Hello rwhit...@internode.on.net,
 
 You sent a payment of 427.00 AUD to administrat...@png.com
 We've asked the seller to ship.
 
 Thanks for using PayPal. To view the transaction details, log in to your 
 PayPal account.
 
 
 It may take a few moments for this transaction to appear in the Recent 
 Activity list in your Account Overview.
 
 
 Seller
 administrat...@png.com
 Note to seller
 You haven't included a note.
 Sender address
 Papua New Guinea's Palm Oil, PNG
 Shipping details
 The seller hasn’t provided any shipping details yet.
 
 Description
 Unit price
 Qty
 Amount
 Oil recipients ( Papua New Guinea's)
 Item number 17393949551
 $427.00 AUD
 1
 $427.00 AUD
  
 Shipping and handling
 $5.00 AUD
 Insurance - not offered
 
 Total
 $432.00 AUD
 Payment
 $432.00 AUD
 
 Payment sent to administrat...@png.com
 
 
 Issues with this transaction?
 If you haven't authorized this transaction ,click the link below to get 
 full refund.
  Go to the Help Centre at: http://www.paypal.com.au/AUD/RefundForm
 
 
  This mailbox is not monitored and you will not receive a response. For 
 assistance, log in to your PayPal account and click Help in the top right 
 corner of any PayPal page.
 
 To receive emails as plain text instead of HTML, change your Notifications 
 preferences. Just log in to your PayPal account, go to your Profile and 
 click My Settings.
 
 
 
 Copyright © 1999-2013 PayPal, Inc. All rights reserved.
 PayPal Australia Pty Limited ABN 93 111 195 389 (AFSL 304962). Any general 
 financial product advice provided in this site has not taken into account 
 your objectives, financial situations or needs.
 PayPal Email ID PP1120 
 
 On 09/10/2013, at 11:53 am, Reg Whitely rwhit...@internode.on.net wrote:
 
 Hi WAMUGgers
 
 I've just received this email, purported to be from 

Re: Spam? Fisching?

[Daniel Kerr]

That email is actually correct. As Adobe's servers got hacked. 
As a precaution, they are emailing people advising them to change their 
password, just incase.

You can read more about it direct from Adobe's site here -
http://helpx.adobe.com/x-productkb/policy-pricing/customer-alert.html

or here
http://www.macrumors.com/2013/10/03/adobe-hacked-2-9-million-customer-accounts-compromised/

So yes, it may pay to change your password for your Adobe account, just 
incase.

Kind regards
Daniel
---
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MacWizardry

Phone: 0414 795 960
Email: daniel AT macwizardry.com.au
Web:   http://www.macwizardry.com.au


**For everything Apple**

NOTE: Any information provided in this email may be my personal opinion and as 
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information provided does not offer or warrant any form of warranty or accept 
liability. It would be appreciated that if any information in this email is to 
be disseminated, distributed or copied, that permission by the author be 
requested. 

On 10/10/2013, at 4:27 AM, Robert Miller-Eves bobme...@highway1.com.au wrote:

 Just received an email,supposedly from Adobe , Important Password Reset 
 Information
 Important Password Reset Information
 To view this message in a language other than English, please click here. 
 
 We recently discovered that an attacker illegally entered our network and may 
 have obtained access to your Adobe ID and encrypted password. We currently 
 have no indication that there has been unauthorized activity on your account. 
 
 To prevent unauthorized access to your account, we have reset your password. 
 Please visitwww.adobe.com/go/passwordreset to create a new password. We 
 recommend that you also change your password on any website where you use the 
 same user ID or password. In addition, please be on the lookout for 
 suspicious email or phone scams seeking your personal information. 
 
 We deeply regret any inconvenience this may cause you. We value the trust of 
 our customers and we will work aggressively to prevent these types of events 
 from occurring in the future. If you have questions, you can learn more by 
 visiting our Customer Alert page, which you will find here.
 Adobe Customer Care
 
 I have NOT responded as I'm suspicious!
 
 Robert Miller-Eves
 bobme...@highway1.com.au
 
 
 
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Re: Spam, phishing pretending to be PayPal

[Peter Hinchliffe]

On 09/10/2013, at 5:56 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:

 Don't click on any of the links in the Email Jewels... Just delete the email.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 

I agree with Ronni. the golden rule is NEVER click on links in emails of this 
sort. If in doubt, always go to the site in question, be it PayPal, iTunes, 
your bank or anyone else, and login to your account, assuming you actually have 
one, and check things out for yourself. And, of course, delete the email.

It also pays to have a close look at the sending and recipient email addresses 
at the top of the message. You'll find that the sending address often resolves 
to somewhere in Russia or Romania or similar, and of course if the recipient 
address is Undisclosed recipients or similar you can be absolutely certain 
the message is not intended for you at all.

Above all, if you know for a fact that you have no dealings at all with the 
organisation in question, you need spend no further time over it. Just delete 
and move on.

Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
Perth, Western Australia
Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948

Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.

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Re: Spam, phishing pretending to be PayPal

[Julie Bedford]

Thanks Ronni,
I didn't click on any of the email links, I just independently went to Paypal, 
advised them and then deleted the email from the In and Trash.
Thanks for your concern.

Cheers
jewels

On 10/10/2013, at 7:57 AM, Peter Hinchliffe wrote:

 
 On 09/10/2013, at 5:56 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Don't click on any of the links in the Email Jewels... Just delete the email.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 
 
 I agree with Ronni. the golden rule is NEVER click on links in emails of this 
 sort. If in doubt, always go to the site in question, be it PayPal, iTunes, 
 your bank or anyone else, and login to your account, assuming you actually 
 have one, and check things out for yourself. And, of course, delete the email.
 
 It also pays to have a close look at the sending and recipient email 
 addresses at the top of the message. You'll find that the sending address 
 often resolves to somewhere in Russia or Romania or similar, and of course if 
 the recipient address is Undisclosed recipients or similar you can be 
 absolutely certain the message is not intended for you at all.
 
 Above all, if you know for a fact that you have no dealings at all with the 
 organisation in question, you need spend no further time over it. Just delete 
 and move on.
 
 Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
 FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
 Perth, Western Australia
 Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948
 
 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.
 
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Re: Spam, phishing pretending to be PayPal

[Reg Whitely]

Oops that wasn't the plain text version. Sorry, don't click on any links!

Reg
On 09/10/2013, at 11:53 am, Reg Whitely rwhit...@internode.on.net wrote:

 Hi WAMUGgers
 
 I've just received this email, purported to be from PayPal. I've not had any 
 transactions with the png palm oil people, whoever they are, and have sent a 
 copy to phish...@paypal.com.au as requested by Paypal (see 
 https://www.paypal.com/au/webapps/mpp/security/antiphishing-ppphishingreport)
 
 What do you think? There has been no recent transaction movements in my 
 account.
 
 Here is a plain text copy of the email
 
 Reg

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Re: Spam, phishing pretending to be PayPal

[Reg Whitely]

This is the plain text version. Please delete the previous one from your 
mailbox:

From: PayPal  refunds.serv...@admin.net
Subject: Receipt for your PayPal payment to administrat...@png.com
Date: 9 October 2013 11:14:40 am AWST
To: rwhit...@internode.on.net
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9 Oct 2013 06:19:34 AEST
Transaction ID: 71PN116NA799763R
Hello rwhit...@internode.on.net,

You sent a payment of 427.00 AUD to administrat...@png.com
We've asked the seller to ship.

Thanks for using PayPal. To view the transaction details, log in to your PayPal 
account.


It may take a few moments for this transaction to appear in the Recent Activity 
list in your Account Overview.


Seller
administrat...@png.com
Note to seller
You haven't included a note.
Sender address
Papua New Guinea's Palm Oil, PNG
Shipping details
The seller hasn’t provided any shipping details yet.

Description
Unit price
Qty
Amount
Oil recipients ( Papua New Guinea's)
Item number 17393949551
$427.00 AUD
1
$427.00 AUD
 
Shipping and handling
$5.00 AUD
Insurance - not offered

Total
$432.00 AUD
Payment
$432.00 AUD

Payment sent to administrat...@png.com


Issues with this transaction?
If you haven't authorized this transaction ,click the link below to get full 
refund.
 Go to the Help Centre at: http://www.paypal.com.au/AUD/RefundForm


 This mailbox is not monitored and you will not receive a response. For 
assistance, log in to your PayPal account and click Help in the top right 
corner of any PayPal page.

To receive emails as plain text instead of HTML, change your Notifications 
preferences. Just log in to your PayPal account, go to your Profile and click 
My Settings.



Copyright © 1999-2013 PayPal, Inc. All rights reserved.
PayPal Australia Pty Limited ABN 93 111 195 389 (AFSL 304962). Any general 
financial product advice provided in this site has not taken into account your 
objectives, financial situations or needs.
PayPal Email ID PP1120 

On 09/10/2013, at 11:53 am, Reg Whitely rwhit...@internode.on.net wrote:

 Hi WAMUGgers
 
 I've just received this email, purported to be from PayPal. I've not had any 
 transactions with the png palm oil people, whoever they are, and have sent a 
 copy to phish...@paypal.com.au as requested by Paypal (see 
 https://www.paypal.com/au/webapps/mpp/security/antiphishing-ppphishingreport)
 
 What do you think? There has been no recent transaction movements in my 
 account.
 
 Here is a plain text copy of the email
 
 Reg

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Re: Spam, phishing pretending to be PayPal

[Geoff and Kaye]

Reg

On 09/10/2013, at 12:10 PM, Reg Whitely wrote:

 
 Hi WAMUGgers
 
 I've just received this email, purported to be from PayPal. I've not had any 
 transactions with the png palm oil people, whoever they are, and have sent a 
 copy to phish...@paypal.com.au as requested by Paypal (see 
 https://www.paypal.com/au/webapps/mpp/security/antiphishing-ppphishingreport)
 
 What do you think? There has been no recent transaction movements in my 
 account.

A whois on the domain name png.com returns:

---
Domain name: png.com

Administrative Contact:
   -
   DHARSHINEE NAIDU (creativedreams...@gmail.com)
   +1.9173101384
   Fax: -
   20 WEST 87TH STREET
   NEW YORK, NY 10024
   US
-

You would think that Mr Naidu is unlikely to be in the palm oil business in 
Papua New Guinea.

Regards

Geoff
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Re: Spam, phishing pretending to be PayPal

[Geoff and Kaye]

Reg

On 09/10/2013, at 12:10 PM, Reg Whitely wrote:

 I've just received this email, purported to be from PayPal. I've not had any 
 transactions with the png palm oil people, whoever they are, and have sent a 
 copy to phish...@paypal.com.au as requested by Paypal (see 
 https://www.paypal.com/au/webapps/mpp/security/antiphishing-ppphishingreport)
 
 What do you think? There has been no recent transaction movements in my 
 account.

If the seller is not phishy enough, a whois on the domain of the return 
address provides:

-
Domain Name: ADMIN.NET
Registrar URL: http://www.godaddy.com
Updated Date: 2013-01-03 21:17:44
Creation Date: 1996-02-29 00:00:00
Registrar Expiration Date: 2018-03-02 00:00:00
Registrar: GoDaddy.com, LLC
Registrant Name: Francois Normant
Registrant Organization:
Registrant Street: BP 22672
Registrant City: Dakar Ponty
Registrant State/Province:
Registrant Postal Code: 0
Registrant Country: Senegal
-

They produce a lot of palm oil in Senegal, but this person (with no stated 
organisation) is probably not in the business, and is even less likely to be 
associated with palm oil in PNG. More to the point, he clearly has nothing to 
do with Paypal.

Regards

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Re: Spam, phishing pretending to be PayPal

[Kevin Lock]

Reg,

I have had several of these and advised PayPal who confirmed that it is 
a Phishing scam to get your banking details.


Regs,

Kevin





On 9/10/13 2:53 PM,



Reg Whitely wrote:

Hi WAMUGgers

I've just received this email, purported to be from PayPal. I've not 
had any transactions with the png palm oil people, whoever they are, 
and have sent a copy to phish...@paypal.com.au 
mailto:phish...@paypal.com.au as requested by Paypal (see 
https://www.paypal.com/au/webapps/mpp/security/antiphishing-ppphishingreport)


What do you think? There has been no recent transaction movements in 
my account.


Here is a plain text copy of the email

Reg

_

From: PayPal  refunds.serv...@admin.net 
mailto:refunds.serv...@admin.net
Subject: Receipt for your PayPal payment to administrat...@png.com 
mailto:administrat...@png.com

Date: 9 October 2013 11:14:40 am AWST
To: rwhit...@internode.on.net mailto:rwhit...@internode.on.net
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Status: U
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9 Oct 2013 06:19:34 AEST
Transaction ID: 71PN116NA799763R
Hello rwhit...@internode.on.net mailto:rwhit...@internode.on.net,

You sent a payment of 427.00 AUD to administrat...@png.com 
mailto:administrat...@png.com

We've asked the seller to ship.

Thanks for using PayPal. To view the transaction details, log in to 
your PayPal account.



It may take a few moments for this transaction to appear in the Recent 
Activity list in your Account Overview.



Seller
administrat...@png.com mailto:administrat...@png.com
Note to seller
You haven't included a note.
Sender address
Papua New Guinea's Palm Oil, PNG
Shipping details
The seller hasn't provided any shipping details yet.

Description
Unit price
Qty
Amount
Oil recipients ( Papua New Guinea's)
Item number 17393949551
$427.00 AUD
1
$427.00 AUD
Shipping and handling
$5.00 AUD
Insurance - not offered

Total
$432.00 AUD
Payment
$432.00 AUD

Payment sent to administrat...@png.com mailto:administrat...@png.com


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/
/
/
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Re: Spam, phishing pretending to be PayPal

[Rick Armstrong]

Same here with PayPal, I usually screen capture the email then go to the PayPal 
site and report it, PayPal always respond and are sometimes aware and sometimes 
not and always request you to delete the email and not to respond to PayPal 
from the email. The good thing with PayPal is that you are protected against 
any fraudulent activity. Rick.

On 09/10/2013, at 11:00 AM, Kevin Lock kal...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Reg,
 
 I have had several of these and advised PayPal who confirmed that it is a 
 Phishing scam to get your banking details.
 
 Regs,
 
 Kevin
 
 
 
 
 
 On 9/10/13 2:53 PM, 
 
 
 
 Reg Whitely wrote:
 Hi WAMUGgers
 
 I've just received this email, purported to be from PayPal. I've not had any 
 transactions with the png palm oil people, whoever they are, and have sent a 
 copy to phish...@paypal.com.au as requested by Paypal (see 
 https://www.paypal.com/au/webapps/mpp/security/antiphishing-ppphishingreport)
 
 What do you think? There has been no recent transaction movements in my 
 account.
 
 Here is a plain text copy of the email
 
 Reg
 
 _
 
 From: PayPal  refunds.serv...@admin.net
 Subject: Receipt for your PayPal payment to administrat...@png.com
 Date: 9 October 2013 11:14:40 am AWST
 To: rwhit...@internode.on.net
 X-Default-Received-Spf: pass (skip=trusted (res=PASS)) 
 x-ip-name=150.101.137.143;
 Received: from ipmail05.adl6.internode.on.net (unverified [150.101.137.143]) 
  by mail.internode.on.net (SurgeMail 5.3i) with ESMTP id 175089352-1927428  
 for rwhit...@internode.on.net; Wed, 09 Oct 2013 13:45:00 +1030 (CDT)
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 Received: from unknown (HELO server-PC) ([203.59.132.147]) by 
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 9 Oct 2013 06:19:34 AEST
 Transaction ID: 71PN116NA799763R
 Hello rwhit...@internode.on.net,
 
 You sent a payment of 427.00 AUD to administrat...@png.com
 We've asked the seller to ship.
 
 Thanks for using PayPal. To view the transaction details, log in to your 
 PayPal account.
 
 
 It may take a few moments for this transaction to appear in the Recent 
 Activity list in your Account Overview.
 
 
 Seller
 administrat...@png.com
 Note to seller
 You haven't included a note.
 Sender address
 Papua New Guinea's Palm Oil, PNG
 Shipping details
 The seller hasn’t provided any shipping details yet.
 
 Description
 Unit price
 Qty
 Amount
 Oil recipients ( Papua New Guinea's)
 Item number 17393949551
 $427.00 AUD
 1
 $427.00 AUD
  
 Shipping and handling
 $5.00 AUD
 Insurance - not offered
 
 Total
 $432.00 AUD
 Payment
 $432.00 AUD
 
 Payment sent to administrat...@png.com
 
 
 Issues with this transaction?
 If you haven't authorized this transaction ,click the link below to get full 
 refund.
  Go to the Help Centre at: http://www.paypal.com.au/AUD/RefundForm
 
 
  This mailbox is not monitored and you will not receive a response. For 
 assistance, log in to your PayPal account and click Help in the top right 
 corner of any PayPal page.
 
 To receive emails as plain text instead of HTML, change your Notifications 
 preferences. Just log in to your PayPal account, go to your Profile and 
 click My Settings.
 
 
 
 Copyright © 1999-2013 PayPal, Inc. All rights reserved.
 PayPal Australia Pty Limited ABN 93 111 195 389 (AFSL 304962). Any general 
 financial product advice provided in this site has not taken into account 
 your objectives, financial situations or needs.
 PayPal Email ID PP1120 
 
 Reg Whitely
 
 Home: 08 9921 7272
 Mob: 04 8899 7313
 Email: rwhit...@internode.on.net
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: spam

[Daniel Kerr]

If Junk Mail is still coming to your InBox, then you may have it set to 
training mode.
If you want it to file them for you then in Mail - Preferences go to Junk 
Mail. 
You'll see choices like
When junk mail arrives
• Mark it as junk, but leave it in my Inbox
• Move it to the Junk mailbox
• Perform custom actions (Click Advanced to configure).

If you have it set to move to the Junk Mailbox then it will move them away 
for you from your InBox, but store them so you can just double check. (before 
deleting them).
Or you can customise it to do other options. (e.g. delete automatically) etc.

Depending on your hosting then you can also set them up with Cpanel from your 
hosting side as well, and create auto filters that will filter out a specific 
address to not be seen again. And adjust spam filters from the host end as 
well.
(which is what a lot of my hosting clients do).

spam as such in Australia can only be stopped if the company is operating 
from an Australian address with an Australia website/address etc. Nothing they 
can do about the rest of the world unfortunately.

My spam for the week is you have a message from LinkedIn, click here. About 
10+ a day. And I don't even belong to the stupid thing. Never signed up for 
LinkedIn, not interested in. Not interested in the spam. Yet,…I still get it. 
(pretending to be them).

Welcome to the world of the internet. Spam is it's ugly side effect I'm afraid.

Kind regards
Daniel

Sent from my iPhone 5

---
Daniel Kerr
MacWizardry

Phone: 0414 795 960
Email: danielATmacwizardryDOTcomDOTau
Web:   http://www.macwizardry.com.au


**For everything Apple**

On 21/05/2013, at 8:55 PM, Brett Curtis br...@masterwindowcleaners.com.au 
wrote:

 how many times do you have to mark a message as junk before Mail actually 
 realises the emails are spam?
 I have been getting mail from an Australian site called logo mates for a year 
 now!
 I mark it as junk, but mail keeps putting them in my inbox, saying Mail 
 thinks this is spam   Golly gee!!!  maybe it is???
 
 I have also forwarded it on to reportspam numerous times, but that appears to 
 have as little impact as marking something as junk to Mail !!!  I thought it 
 was illegal in Oz?
 
 What do I have to do frchrisakes?
 
 Brett Curtis
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Re: spam

[Brett Curtis]

Thanks Daniel
I do have the Junk Mail setting set to move to the junk folder for review and 
that works most of the time.  Just some keep getting through and you can see 
the previous emails below, all with a message saying Mail thinks this is Junk 
 Why does Mail, not put them in the Junk folder?
Re: the training mode.  Where do you set this?  I have Enable junk mail 
filtering ticked.

Regards,

Brett Curtis
Master Window Cleaners   
0419 049 084
http://masterwindowcleaners.com.au/


On 21/05/2013, at 9:02 PM, Daniel Kerr dan...@macwizardry.com.au wrote:

 If Junk Mail is still coming to your InBox, then you may have it set to 
 training mode.
 If you want it to file them for you then in Mail - Preferences go to Junk 
 Mail. 
 You'll see choices like
 When junk mail arrives
 • Mark it as junk, but leave it in my Inbox
 • Move it to the Junk mailbox
 • Perform custom actions (Click Advanced to configure).
 
 If you have it set to move to the Junk Mailbox then it will move them away 
 for you from your InBox, but store them so you can just double check. 
 (before deleting them).
 Or you can customise it to do other options. (e.g. delete automatically) etc.
 
 Depending on your hosting then you can also set them up with Cpanel from your 
 hosting side as well, and create auto filters that will filter out a specific 
 address to not be seen again. And adjust spam filters from the host end as 
 well.
 (which is what a lot of my hosting clients do).
 
 spam as such in Australia can only be stopped if the company is operating 
 from an Australian address with an Australia website/address etc. Nothing 
 they can do about the rest of the world unfortunately.
 
 My spam for the week is you have a message from LinkedIn, click here. 
 About 10+ a day. And I don't even belong to the stupid thing. Never signed up 
 for LinkedIn, not interested in. Not interested in the spam. Yet,…I still get 
 it. (pretending to be them).
 
 Welcome to the world of the internet. Spam is it's ugly side effect I'm 
 afraid.
 
 Kind regards
 Daniel
 
 Sent from my iPhone 5
 
 ---
 Daniel Kerr
 MacWizardry
 
 Phone: 0414 795 960
 Email: danielATmacwizardryDOTcomDOTau
 Web:   http://www.macwizardry.com.au
 
 
 **For everything Apple**
 
 On 21/05/2013, at 8:55 PM, Brett Curtis br...@masterwindowcleaners.com.au 
 wrote:
 
 how many times do you have to mark a message as junk before Mail actually 
 realises the emails are spam?
 I have been getting mail from an Australian site called logo mates for a 
 year now!
 I mark it as junk, but mail keeps putting them in my inbox, saying Mail 
 thinks this is spam   Golly gee!!!  maybe it is???
 
 I have also forwarded it on to reportspam numerous times, but that appears 
 to have as little impact as marking something as junk to Mail !!!  I thought 
 it was illegal in Oz?
 
 What do I have to do frchrisakes?
 
 Brett Curtis
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Re: spam

[Neil Houghton]

Hi Brett,

Just a thought ­ may not even be relevant since I use Entourage, rather than
Mail, as my email client.

I use a lot of mailing rules to sort my mail into different folders, as it
arrives, and sometimes find things where I don¹t expect them.

Generally, I find that this is due to the fact that the item COULD be picked
up by more than one rule ­ in this case what happens is that the item is
handled by the FIRST rule that is applicable, based on the rule priority
list. Generally, this is a one-off kind of thing ­ but otherwise I would
tweak either the rules or their order of priority.

As I say, I don¹t have any real experience with Mail ­ so I¹m not sure
exactly how it implements rules ­ but could it be that the problem emails
are being picked up by some ³rule² you have set ­ which is then overriding
the direction into the junk mail folder.


Cheers



Neil
-- 
Neil R. Houghton
Albany, Western Australia
Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
Email: n...@possumology.com






on 22/5/13 8:22, Brett Curtis at br...@masterwindowcleaners.com.au wrote:

 Thanks Daniel
 I do have the Junk Mail setting set to move to the junk folder for review and
 that works most of the time.  Just some keep getting through and you can see
 the previous emails below, all with a message saying Mail thinks this is
 Junk  Why does Mail, not put them in the Junk folder?
 Re: the training mode.  Where do you set this?  I have Enable junk mail
 filtering ticked.
 
 Regards,
 
 Brett Curtis
 Master Window Cleaners
 0419 049 084
 http://masterwindowcleaners.com.au/
 
 
 On 21/05/2013, at 9:02 PM, Daniel Kerr dan...@macwizardry.com.au wrote:
 
 If Junk Mail is still coming to your InBox, then you may have it set to
 training mode.
 If you want it to file them for you then in Mail - Preferences go to Junk
 Mail. 
 You'll see choices like
 When junk mail arrives
 € Mark it as junk, but leave it in my Inbox
 € Move it to the Junk mailbox
 € Perform custom actions (Click Advanced to configure).
 
 If you have it set to move to the Junk Mailbox then it will move them away
 for you from your InBox, but store them so you can just double check.
 (before deleting them).
 Or you can customise it to do other options. (e.g. delete automatically) etc.
 
 Depending on your hosting then you can also set them up with Cpanel from your
 hosting side as well, and create auto filters that will filter out a specific
 address to not be seen again. And adjust spam filters from the host end as
 well.
 (which is what a lot of my hosting clients do).
 
 spam as such in Australia can only be stopped if the company is operating
 from an Australian address with an Australia website/address etc. Nothing
 they can do about the rest of the world unfortunately.
 
 My spam for the week is you have a message from LinkedIn, click here.
 About 10+ a day. And I don't even belong to the stupid thing. Never signed up
 for LinkedIn, not interested in. Not interested in the spam. Yet,ŠI still get
 it. (pretending to be them).
 
 Welcome to the world of the internet. Spam is it's ugly side effect I'm
 afraid.
 
 Kind regards
 Daniel
 
 Sent from my iPhone 5
 
 ---
 Daniel Kerr
 MacWizardry
 
 Phone: 0414 795 960
 Email: danielATmacwizardryDOTcomDOTau
 Web:   http://www.macwizardry.com.au
 
 
 **For everything Apple**
 
 On 21/05/2013, at 8:55 PM, Brett Curtis br...@masterwindowcleaners.com.au
 wrote:
 
 how many times do you have to mark a message as junk before Mail actually
 realises the emails are spam?
 I have been getting mail from an Australian site called logo mates for a
 year now!
 I mark it as junk, but mail keeps putting them in my inbox, saying Mail
 thinks this is spam   Golly gee!!!  maybe it is???
 
 I have also forwarded it on to reportspam numerous times, but that appears
 to have as little impact as marking something as junk to Mail !!!  I thought
 it was illegal in Oz?
 
 What do I have to do frchrisakes?
 
 Brett Curtis

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Re: SPAM from Apple? Fwd: Please verify that we have the right address for you

[Alex]

Thanks Ronni,

Cheers,  Alex

On 28/11/2012, at 6:10 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:

 Hi Alex,

 Apple are very chatty lately, I've been receiving this email also.
 You can verify your email address by logging in at http://appleid.apple.com/ 
  by manually typing that address into your web browser, rather than  
 clicking the link in the email.

 Also read the support article below, which includes details about  
 verifying your AppleID:

 http://support.apple.com/kb/he37
 Cheers,
 Ronni

 Sent from Ronni's iPad4

 On 28/11/2012, at 1:31 AM, Alex aln...@highway1.com.au wrote:

 Hello Wamuggians

 my wife received the email below  I would like to confirm whether it
 could be spam/malicious?  She did try to download a weather app from
 the app store the previous night for her iPhone 4S, which she
 cancelled as it was taking a long time  did not seem to be behaving
 properly, so this may be an Apple communication related to this.
 Seeing as the principle is that one does not click on links from
 bank sites to verify one's details, I thought this should fall in
 the same category.

 Many thanks in advance for your input,

 Cheers,  Alex

 Begin forwarded message:

 From: Glenda Novakovic glendan...@tm.org.au
 Date: 27 November 2012 8:44:30 PM
 To: Alex aln...@highway1.com.au
 Subject: Fwd: Please verify that we have the right address for you



 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Apple appl...@id.apple.com
 Date: 26 November 2012 22:00
 Subject: Please verify that we have the right address for you
 To: glendan...@tm.org.au



 Thank you.

 You’ve taken the added security step and provided a rescue email
 address. Now all you need to do is verify that it belongs to you.

 The rescue email address that you gave us is glendan...@tm.org.au.
 Just click the link below to verify, sign in using your Apple ID and
 password, then follow the prompts.

 Verify Now 

 The rescue email address is dedicated to your security and allows
 Apple to get in touch if any account questions come up, such as the
 need to reset your password or change your security questions. As
 promised, Apple will never send any announcements or marketing
 messages to this address.

 When using Apple products and services, you’ll still sign in with
 your primary email address as your Apple ID.

 It’s about protecting your identity.
 Just so you know, Apple sends out an email whenever someone adds or
 changes a rescue email address associated with an existing Apple ID.
 If you received this email in error, don’t worry. It’s likely
 someone just mistyped their own email address when creating a new
 Apple ID.

 If you have questions or need help, visit the Apple ID Support site.

 Thanks again,

 Apple Support

 TM and copyright © 2012 Apple Inc. 1 Infinite Loop, MS 96-DM,
 Cupertino, CA 95014.
 All Rights Reserved / Keep Informed / Privacy Policy / My Apple ID




 -- 
 With all best wishes

 Glenda Novakovic
 Certified Teacher of the Transcendental Meditation® Program
 (08) 3467 4108 / 041 277 4429
 glendan...@tm.org.au
 www.meditationperth.org.au

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Re: SPAM from Apple? Fwd: Please verify that we have the right address for you

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Alex,

Apple are very chatty lately, I've been receiving this email also.
You can verify your email address by logging in at http://appleid.apple.com/ by 
manually typing that address into your web browser, rather than clicking the 
link in the email.
 
Also read the support article below, which includes details about verifying 
your AppleID:
 
http://support.apple.com/kb/he37
Cheers,
Ronni

Sent from Ronni's iPad4

On 28/11/2012, at 1:31 AM, Alex aln...@highway1.com.au wrote:

 Hello Wamuggians
 
 my wife received the email below  I would like to confirm whether it  
 could be spam/malicious?  She did try to download a weather app from  
 the app store the previous night for her iPhone 4S, which she  
 cancelled as it was taking a long time  did not seem to be behaving  
 properly, so this may be an Apple communication related to this.   
 Seeing as the principle is that one does not click on links from  
 bank sites to verify one's details, I thought this should fall in  
 the same category.
 
 Many thanks in advance for your input,
 
 Cheers,  Alex
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 
 From: Glenda Novakovic glendan...@tm.org.au
 Date: 27 November 2012 8:44:30 PM
 To: Alex aln...@highway1.com.au
 Subject: Fwd: Please verify that we have the right address for you
 
 
 
 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Apple appl...@id.apple.com
 Date: 26 November 2012 22:00
 Subject: Please verify that we have the right address for you
 To: glendan...@tm.org.au
 
 
 
 Thank you.
 
 You’ve taken the added security step and provided a rescue email  
 address. Now all you need to do is verify that it belongs to you.
 
 The rescue email address that you gave us is glendan...@tm.org.au.
 Just click the link below to verify, sign in using your Apple ID and  
 password, then follow the prompts.
 
 Verify Now 
 
 The rescue email address is dedicated to your security and allows  
 Apple to get in touch if any account questions come up, such as the  
 need to reset your password or change your security questions. As  
 promised, Apple will never send any announcements or marketing  
 messages to this address.
 
 When using Apple products and services, you’ll still sign in with  
 your primary email address as your Apple ID.
 
 It’s about protecting your identity.
 Just so you know, Apple sends out an email whenever someone adds or  
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Re: ?spam

[Peter Hinchliffe]

On 12/10/2012, at 11:14 AM, McCallum Malcolm doc...@westnet.com.au wrote:

 I am getting increasingly paranoid in my old age :-( Please can someone tell 
 me if this is spam or is it real?
 
 

   
 This is to inform you that you have a payment coming into your account.Your 
 account needs to be updated before any other pending payments can reflect on 
 your account. Update your digital Banking 
 athttps://www.rbsdigital.com/default.aspx and then fill the required details .
 
 Don't forget to check your transactions regularly and please remember we'll 
 never ask you for your PIN and Password by email.
 
 Don't hesitate to call us if you have any queries, but please do not respond 
 to this email. You'll find phone numbers for all of our services in the 
 'contact us' section of natwest.co.uk.
 
 
 Internet support team  

 
 Mac
 Malcolm McCallum
 
 doc...@westnet.com.au
 Skype docmactor
 


If you are using Mail in Lion or Mountain Lion, the ability to use Quicklook 
URLs is invaluable for sorting this stuff out. It's difficult in this case 
since the URL itself is invalid, but normally a Quicklook URL work like this:

1. HOVER your mouse pointer over the URL. DO NOT CLICK THE BUTTON.

2. You will see a small dark grey box appear at the end of the URL, containing 
a white triangle. Click the box

3. A quicklook window will open up and render the page behind the URL. 

The Quicklook URL circumvents the use of a Browser, giving you a Preview of 
the page, thereby avoiding the various nasties which might be lurking in any 
backend scripts executed by the browser. The links within the Quicklook page 
are live, but be aware that clicking one will generally activate your browser.

Interestingly enough, in this case the URL does actually resolve to a very 
genuine-looking log-in page for the Digital Banking service of the Royal Bank 
of Scotland. Generally, if the URL is bogus, the Quicklook URL exposes the 
culprit site. In my experience it's pretty hard to fool. This one looks to be 
legitimate. 

Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
Perth, Western Australia
Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948

Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.

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Re: ?spam

[Severin Crisp]

Immediate delete Malcolm!   
Severin Crisp

On 12/10/2012, at 11:14 AM, McCallum Malcolm doc...@westnet.com.au wrote:

 I am getting increasingly paranoid in my old age :-( Please can someone tell 
 me if this is spam or is it real?
 
 

   
 This is to inform you that you have a payment coming into your account.Your 
 account needs to be updated before any other pending payments can reflect on 
 your account. Update your digital Banking 
 athttps://www.rbsdigital.com/default.aspx and then fill the required details .
 
 Don't forget to check your transactions regularly and please remember we'll 
 never ask you for your PIN and Password by email.
 
 Don't hesitate to call us if you have any queries, but please do not respond 
 to this email. You'll find phone numbers for all of our services in the 
 'contact us' section of natwest.co.uk.
 
 
 Internet support team  

 
 Mac
 Malcolm McCallum
 
 doc...@westnet.com.au
 Skype docmactor
 
 
 
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Re: ?spam

[Lynn Koh]

Hi Mac

I would suggest open a new internet window (whatever you do, DO NOT click the 
link in the email), type in your internet banking web address and log in that 
way (if you use internet banking). If you dont, i wouldd say most likely it is 
spam.

if it is a legitimate email, your 'mail inbox' in your netbanking account will 
also display the same email you got.

regards
Lynn

- Original Message -
From: McCallum Malcolm doc...@westnet.com.au
To: Wamug Wamug wamug@wamug.org.au
Sent: Friday, 12 October, 2012 11:14:26 AM GMT +08:00 Beijing / Chongqing / 
Hong Kong / Urumqi
Subject: ?spam

I am getting increasingly paranoid in my old age :-( Please can someone tell me 
if this is spam or is it real?


 

This is to inform you that you have a payment coming into your account.Your 
account needs to be updated before any other pending payments can reflect on 
your account. Update your digital Banking 
athttps://www.rbsdigital.com/default.aspx and then fill the required details .

Don't forget to check your transactions regularly and please remember we'll 
never ask you for your PIN and Password by email.

Don't hesitate to call us if you have any queries, but please do not respond to 
this email. You'll find phone numbers for all of our services in the 'contact 
us' section of natwest.co.uk.


Internet support team
 

Mac
Malcolm McCallum

doc...@westnet.com.au
Skype docmactor



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Re: ?spam

[McCallum Malcolm]

Thanks -- WILL DO!
Malcolm McCallum

doc...@westnet.com.au
Skype docmactor



On 12/10/2012, at 11:57 AM, Lynn Koh lynn...@westnet.com.au wrote:

 Hi Mac
 
 I would suggest open a new internet window (whatever you do, DO NOT click the 
 link in the email), type in your internet banking web address and log in that 
 way (if you use internet banking). If you dont, i wouldd say most likely it 
 is spam.
 
 if it is a legitimate email, your 'mail inbox' in your netbanking account 
 will also display the same email you got.
 
 regards
 Lynn
 
 - Original Message -
 From: McCallum Malcolm doc...@westnet.com.au
 To: Wamug Wamug wamug@wamug.org.au
 Sent: Friday, 12 October, 2012 11:14:26 AM GMT +08:00 Beijing / Chongqing / 
 Hong Kong / Urumqi
 Subject: ?spam
 
 I am getting increasingly paranoid in my old age :-( Please can someone tell 
 me if this is spam or is it real?
 
 

   
 This is to inform you that you have a payment coming into your account.Your 
 account needs to be updated before any other pending payments can reflect on 
 your account. Update your digital Banking 
 athttps://www.rbsdigital.com/default.aspx and then fill the required details .
 
 Don't forget to check your transactions regularly and please remember we'll 
 never ask you for your PIN and Password by email.
 
 Don't hesitate to call us if you have any queries, but please do not respond 
 to this email. You'll find phone numbers for all of our services in the 
 'contact us' section of natwest.co.uk.
 
 
 Internet support team  

 
 Mac
 Malcolm McCallum
 
 doc...@westnet.com.au
 Skype docmactor
 
 
 
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Re: ?spam

[Geoff and Kaye]

Malcolm

On 12/10/2012, at 11:14 AM, McCallum Malcolm wrote:

 I am getting increasingly paranoid in my old age :-( Please can someone tell 
 me if this is spam or is it real?

It is almost certainly spam, but it is difficult to tell what they hope to 
achieve with this message. Looking at the raw source would help as it is 
possible that the URL given is embedded in a different URL which is where a 
browser would go if you clicked on the link.

 This is to inform you that you have a payment coming into your account.Your 
 account needs to be updated before any other pending payments can reflect on 
 your account. Update your digital Banking 
 athttps://www.rbsdigital.com/default.aspx and then fill the required details .


In fact the athttps bit makes the URL illegal apart from anything else - there 
is no such protocol and so clicking on this link will just result in an error 
message from your browser. Presumably they meant to say digital Banking at 
https://www.rbsdigital.com/default.aspx;. The rbsdigital.com domain is owned by 
the Royal Bank of Scotland but as suggested above you cannot be sure that this 
link (even without the at) will actually take you there.

If you do not bank with the RBoS then it is definitely spam. The awkward 
wording of most of the message together with the lack of detail is also highly 
suggestive of spam.

I'm with Sev - delete it.

Geoff
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Re: ?spam

[McCallum Malcolm]

Thanks I have deleted it :-)

Mac
Malcolm McCallum

doc...@westnet.com.au
Skype docmactor



On 12/10/2012, at 12:15 PM, Geoff and Kaye k...@kgweb.org.au wrote:

 Malcolm
 
 On 12/10/2012, at 11:14 AM, McCallum Malcolm wrote:
 
 I am getting increasingly paranoid in my old age :-( Please can someone tell 
 me if this is spam or is it real?
 
 It is almost certainly spam, but it is difficult to tell what they hope to 
 achieve with this message. Looking at the raw source would help as it is 
 possible that the URL given is embedded in a different URL which is where a 
 browser would go if you clicked on the link.
 
 This is to inform you that you have a payment coming into your account.Your 
 account needs to be updated before any other pending payments can reflect on 
 your account. Update your digital Banking 
 athttps://www.rbsdigital.com/default.aspx and then fill the required details 
 .
 
 
 In fact the athttps bit makes the URL illegal apart from anything else - 
 there is no such protocol and so clicking on this link will just result in an 
 error message from your browser. Presumably they meant to say digital 
 Banking at https://www.rbsdigital.com/default.aspx;. The rbsdigital.com 
 domain is owned by the Royal Bank of Scotland but as suggested above you 
 cannot be sure that this link (even without the at) will actually take you 
 there.
 
 If you do not bank with the RBoS then it is definitely spam. The awkward 
 wording of most of the message together with the lack of detail is also 
 highly suggestive of spam.
 
 I'm with Sev - delete it.
 
 Geoff
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Re: Spam alert

[Bill Parker]

I am not so sure about no issue for Mac owners.  At least with Lion and Leopard 
before it I started using Sophos and it would frequently pick up unwanted 
guests.   And still does.

Bill
On 30/08/2012, at 2:17 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:

 Have forwarded to WAMUG for you Daniel :-) And I have been receiving a lot of 
 the below SPAM emails!
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 
 From: Daniel Kerr dan...@macwizardry.com.au
 Subject: Fwd: Spam alert
 Date: 30 August 2012 2:13:27 PM AWST
 To: Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com
 
 Hi Ronni
 
 Can you please forward this whole email to WAMUG as for some reason both 
 times I sent it they haven't arrived. 
 
 Thanks!
 
 Kind regards
 Daniel
 
 Sent from my iPhone 4s
 
 ---
 Daniel Kerr
 MacWizardry
 
 Phone: 0414 795 960
 Email: dan...@macwizardry.com.au
 Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au
 
 ** For Everything Apple **
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 
 From: Daniel Kerr dan...@macwizardry.com.au
 Date: 30 August 2012 10:18:15 AM AWST
 To: WAMUG wamug@wamug.org.au
 Subject: Spam alert
 
 Hi all
 
 Just for interest sake, I thought I'd let all know there's quite a few spam 
 emails about at the moment. 
 
 These include (but not limited to)-
 Facebook - your friend has sent you photos attached. 
 Telstra - your account current invoice is attached
 Apple. - you need to reset your password with this link
 FedEx / UPS - you have a parcel waiting. Please complete the form attached
 Amazon - your order is waiting approval or needs finalised. Please complete 
 the form attached (or can also say its a copy of your order). 
 
 They all normally have a zip file attached. 
 Not a big issue for us Mac people, but some to be wary of. 
 I get about 3 or 4 a day at the moment , all to weird addresses I don't use 
 (but I have a catch all domain so hence get more then normal). :)
 Some days a nice mixture of all of them. Makes a difference from the old 
 ones (I don't seem to get any more) - Russian brides , Viagra , but cheap 
 meds. Lol. :)
 
 Hope that info helps. 
 (Apologies for the mention of spam itself lol, and mistakes - dictating at 
 red lights can only do so much. Lol)
 
 Enjoy!
 
 Kind regards
 Daniel 
 
 Sent from my iPhone 4s
 
 ---
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 MacWizardry
 
 Phone: 0414 795 960
 Email: daniel AT macwizardry.com.au
 Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au
 
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Re: Spam alert

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Bill,

What Daniel is meaning I would assume... The zip file in these emails normally 
contains an .exe file which contains the virus; and an .exe file cannot be 
opened on a Mac. 
Therefore they can't cause any damage on a Mac.

Common sense and safe practices is required.

Cheers,
Ronni

Sent from Ronni's iPad

On 30/08/2012, at 3:12 PM, Bill Parker ren...@westnet.com.au wrote:

 I am not so sure about no issue for Mac owners.  At least with Lion and 
 Leopard before it I started using Sophos and it would frequently pick up 
 unwanted guests.   And still does.
 
 Bill
 On 30/08/2012, at 2:17 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 Have forwarded to WAMUG for you Daniel :-) And I have been receiving a lot 
 of the below SPAM emails!
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 
 From: Daniel Kerr dan...@macwizardry.com.au
 Subject: Fwd: Spam alert
 Date: 30 August 2012 2:13:27 PM AWST
 To: Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com
 
 Hi Ronni
 
 Can you please forward this whole email to WAMUG as for some reason both 
 times I sent it they haven't arrived. 
 
 Thanks!
 
 Kind regards
 Daniel
 
 Sent from my iPhone 4s
 
 ---
 Daniel Kerr
 MacWizardry
 
 Phone: 0414 795 960
 Email: dan...@macwizardry.com.au
 Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au
 
 ** For Everything Apple **
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 
 From: Daniel Kerr dan...@macwizardry.com.au
 Date: 30 August 2012 10:18:15 AM AWST
 To: WAMUG wamug@wamug.org.au
 Subject: Spam alert
 
 Hi all
 
 Just for interest sake, I thought I'd let all know there's quite a few 
 spam emails about at the moment. 
 
 These include (but not limited to)-
 Facebook - your friend has sent you photos attached. 
 Telstra - your account current invoice is attached
 Apple. - you need to reset your password with this link
 FedEx / UPS - you have a parcel waiting. Please complete the form attached
 Amazon - your order is waiting approval or needs finalised. Please 
 complete the form attached (or can also say its a copy of your order). 
 
 They all normally have a zip file attached. 
 Not a big issue for us Mac people, but some to be wary of. 
 I get about 3 or 4 a day at the moment , all to weird addresses I don't 
 use (but I have a catch all domain so hence get more then normal). :)
 Some days a nice mixture of all of them. Makes a difference from the old 
 ones (I don't seem to get any more) - Russian brides , Viagra , but cheap 
 meds. Lol. :)
 
 Hope that info helps. 
 (Apologies for the mention of spam itself lol, and mistakes - dictating at 
 red lights can only do so much. Lol)
 
 Enjoy!
 
 Kind regards
 Daniel 
 
 Sent from my iPhone 4s
 
 ---
 Daniel Kerr
 MacWizardry
 
 Phone: 0414 795 960
 Email: daniel AT macwizardry.com.au
 Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au
 
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Re: Spam alert

[Bill Parker]

I am sure he is, but Sophos tells me what they are and responds if I tell it to 
quarantine.  I installed Sophos from advice I got from Charles Taylor at Macs4U 
when we set-up a new computer.

Bill

 Hi Bill,
 
 What Daniel is meaning I would assume... The zip file in these emails 
 normally contains an .exe file which contains the virus; and an .exe file 
 cannot be opened on a Mac. 
 Therefore they can't cause any damage on a Mac.
 
 Common sense and safe practices is required.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad
 
 On 30/08/2012, at 3:12 PM, Bill Parker ren...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 I am not so sure about no issue for Mac owners.  At least with Lion and 
 Leopard before it I started using Sophos and it would frequently pick up 
 unwanted guests.   And still does.
 
 Bill
 On 30/08/2012, at 2:17 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 Have forwarded to WAMUG for you Daniel :-) And I have been receiving a lot 
 of the below SPAM emails!
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 
 From: Daniel Kerr dan...@macwizardry.com.au
 Subject: Fwd: Spam alert
 Date: 30 August 2012 2:13:27 PM AWST
 To: Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com
 
 Hi Ronni
 
 Can you please forward this whole email to WAMUG as for some reason both 
 times I sent it they haven't arrived. 
 
 Thanks!
 
 Kind regards
 Daniel
 
 Sent from my iPhone 4s
 
 ---
 Daniel Kerr
 MacWizardry
 
 Phone: 0414 795 960
 Email: dan...@macwizardry.com.au
 Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au
 
 ** For Everything Apple **
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 
 From: Daniel Kerr dan...@macwizardry.com.au
 Date: 30 August 2012 10:18:15 AM AWST
 To: WAMUG wamug@wamug.org.au
 Subject: Spam alert
 
 Hi all
 
 Just for interest sake, I thought I'd let all know there's quite a few 
 spam emails about at the moment. 
 
 These include (but not limited to)-
 Facebook - your friend has sent you photos attached. 
 Telstra - your account current invoice is attached
 Apple. - you need to reset your password with this link
 FedEx / UPS - you have a parcel waiting. Please complete the form attached
 Amazon - your order is waiting approval or needs finalised. Please 
 complete the form attached (or can also say its a copy of your order). 
 
 They all normally have a zip file attached. 
 Not a big issue for us Mac people, but some to be wary of. 
 I get about 3 or 4 a day at the moment , all to weird addresses I don't 
 use (but I have a catch all domain so hence get more then normal). :)
 Some days a nice mixture of all of them. Makes a difference from the old 
 ones (I don't seem to get any more) - Russian brides , Viagra , but cheap 
 meds. Lol. :)
 
 Hope that info helps. 
 (Apologies for the mention of spam itself lol, and mistakes - dictating 
 at red lights can only do so much. Lol)
 
 Enjoy!
 
 Kind regards
 Daniel 
 
 Sent from my iPhone 4s
 
 ---
 Daniel Kerr
 MacWizardry
 
 Phone: 0414 795 960
 Email: daniel AT macwizardry.com.au
 Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au
 
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Re: Spam alert

[Daniel Kerr]

Hi Bill and Ronni

Yes, it was more the mention of them, so people knew. Not about how to deal 
with viruses etc etc,… :)
The files themselves generally wont' worry the Mac. Sure if you have Parallels 
etc then an .exe file will load straight into that and can cause hassles.
Yes, helpful to have virus software for some instances.
And yes, common sense is a fantastic practice to deal with them,…
Those emails arrive (with attachments) and I simply delete them. Problem 
solved. I've got virus software to check my machine (once in a blue moon) but I 
don't run it all the time.
I don't work with a lot of Word documents, bar ones I get sent from clients to 
check or that won't open. And I can them to check. But I don't generally have 
to stress about it in my line of work for things coming through my email or 
computer.

As an aside, in over 11 years of doing computer consulting I've only ever had 
ONE call out for something that was virus related. And it was an old OS9 
computer with a Word macro virus. (And that was about 9 years ago now). It had 
infected the Word documents but nothing else. An easy fix and software then 
installed to keep a check on it. But apart from that, I've never had any other 
virus related call outs, even in the instances where they thought it might be a 
virus,..a scan showed nothing.
I'm sure the same couldn't be said for a Windows consultant! lol :)) (In fact 
I'm sure for some of them, their bread and butter is removing viruses,…lol. :o)

(Thanks Ronni, for forwarding it on as well). Hopefully this email will get 
here too.


Enjoy!

KInd regards
Daniel

Sent from my iPhone 4s

---
Daniel Kerr
MacWizardry

Phone: 0414 795 960
Email: daniel AT macwizardry.com.au
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**For everything Apple**

On 30/08/2012, at 3:57 PM, Bill Parker ren...@westnet.com.au wrote:

 I am sure he is, but Sophos tells me what they are and responds if I tell it 
 to quarantine.  I installed Sophos from advice I got from Charles Taylor at 
 Macs4U when we set-up a new computer.
 
 Bill
 
 Hi Bill,
 
 What Daniel is meaning I would assume... The zip file in these emails 
 normally contains an .exe file which contains the virus; and an .exe file 
 cannot be opened on a Mac. 
 Therefore they can't cause any damage on a Mac.
 
 Common sense and safe practices is required.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad
 
 On 30/08/2012, at 3:12 PM, Bill Parker ren...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 I am not so sure about no issue for Mac owners.  At least with Lion and 
 Leopard before it I started using Sophos and it would frequently pick up 
 unwanted guests.   And still does.
 
 Bill
 On 30/08/2012, at 2:17 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 Have forwarded to WAMUG for you Daniel :-) And I have been receiving a lot 
 of the below SPAM emails!
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 
 From: Daniel Kerr dan...@macwizardry.com.au
 Subject: Fwd: Spam alert
 Date: 30 August 2012 2:13:27 PM AWST
 To: Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com
 
 Hi Ronni
 
 Can you please forward this whole email to WAMUG as for some reason both 
 times I sent it they haven't arrived. 
 
 Thanks!
 
 Kind regards
 Daniel
 
 Sent from my iPhone 4s
 
 ---
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 MacWizardry
 
 Phone: 0414 795 960
 Email: dan...@macwizardry.com.au
 Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au
 
 ** For Everything Apple **
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 
 From: Daniel Kerr dan...@macwizardry.com.au
 Date: 30 August 2012 10:18:15 AM AWST
 To: WAMUG wamug@wamug.org.au
 Subject: Spam alert
 
 Hi all
 
 Just for interest sake, I thought I'd let all know there's quite a few 
 spam emails about at the moment. 
 
 These include (but not limited to)-
 Facebook - your friend has sent you photos attached. 
 Telstra - your account current invoice is attached
 Apple. - you need to reset your password with this link
 FedEx / UPS - you have a parcel waiting. Please complete the form 
 attached
 Amazon - your order is waiting approval or needs finalised. Please 
 complete the form attached (or can also say its a copy of your order). 
 
 They all normally have a zip file attached. 
 Not a big issue for us Mac people, but some to be wary of. 
 I get about 3 or 4 a day at the moment , all to weird addresses I don't 
 use (but I have a catch all domain so hence get more then normal). :)
 Some days a nice mixture of all of them. Makes a difference from the old 
 ones (I don't seem to get any more) - Russian brides , Viagra , but 
 cheap meds. Lol. :)
 
 Hope that info helps. 
 (Apologies for the mention of spam itself lol, and mistakes - dictating 
 at red lights can only do so much. Lol)
 
 Enjoy!
 
 Kind regards
 Daniel 
 
 Sent from my iPhone 4s
 
 ---
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 MacWizardry
 
 Phone: 0414 795 960
 Email: daniel AT macwizardry.com.au
 Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au
 
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Re: Spam alert

[Peter Hinchliffe]

On 30/08/2012, at 6:09 PM, Daniel Kerr dan...@macwizardry.com.au wrote:

 Hi Bill and Ronni
 
 Yes, it was more the mention of them, so people knew. Not about how to deal 
 with viruses etc etc,… :)
 The files themselves generally wont' worry the Mac. Sure if you have 
 Parallels etc then an .exe file will load straight into that and can cause 
 hassles.
 Yes, helpful to have virus software for some instances.
 And yes, common sense is a fantastic practice to deal with them,…
 Those emails arrive (with attachments) and I simply delete them. Problem 
 solved. I've got virus software to check my machine (once in a blue moon) but 
 I don't run it all the time.
 I don't work with a lot of Word documents, bar ones I get sent from clients 
 to check or that won't open. And I can them to check. But I don't generally 
 have to stress about it in my line of work for things coming through my email 
 or computer.
 
 As an aside, in over 11 years of doing computer consulting I've only ever had 
 ONE call out for something that was virus related. And it was an old OS9 
 computer with a Word macro virus. (And that was about 9 years ago now). It 
 had infected the Word documents but nothing else. An easy fix and software 
 then installed to keep a check on it. But apart from that, I've never had any 
 other virus related call outs, even in the instances where they thought it 
 might be a virus,..a scan showed nothing.
 I'm sure the same couldn't be said for a Windows consultant! lol :)) (In fact 
 I'm sure for some of them, their bread and butter is removing viruses,…lol. 
 :o)
 
 (Thanks Ronni, for forwarding it on as well). Hopefully this email will get 
 here too.
 
 

One of the great strengths of Apple's Mail (and why I won't use anything else) 
is the fact that it takes full advantage of OS X's QuickLook system. One of the 
great features of QuickLook is its support for plugins, and one of the more 
useful of these is the BetterZip plugin.

http://www.quicklookplugins.com/2007/12/02/zip-betterzip/

Once installed, it gives you an instant peak inside the contents of any .zip 
file. It is particularly useful for quickly examining these little nasties 
without running any risks associated with opening them. A simply slick of the 
QuickLook button at the top of the message opens a window displaying the 
contents of the archive, and these attachments typically contain nothing but 
the aforementioned .exe file. Of course, BetterZip is useful for looking inside 
legitimate Zipped attachments as well, so you can see what you might be getting 
before you actually open the attachment.

As an adjunct to this, QuickLook in 10.7 and above also works on embedded URLs, 
so you can preview those inviting links before you actually click them: you 
know, the ones from the bank that say things like your password needs to be 
reset. Please click here to correct the issue or something similar. Invariably 
these links lead off to some site in Russia or somewhere, performing some nasty 
magic along the way. QuickLook lets you see what the destination page looks 
like without involving your browser.
 

Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
Perth, Western Australia
Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948

Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.

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Re: ***SPAM*** Re: Setting up a website to replace Mobileme

[Robert Miller-Eves]

Hi Ronni!.  and all you helpful Wammugers! APOLOGIES APOLOGIES APOLOGIES! I had 
every intention of getting back to the list in response to all the wonderful 
and helpful advice,but i too am totally overloaded with work,family 
problems.I'm still battling to get this website up and am reading and 
re-reading all the suggestions and trying to put them into practice. For some 
reason nothing loads onto the website. I'll sort it out but for now I need a 
break  -like you Ronni. Thank you all for your help,rest assured it is MUCH 
appreciated.

On 12/05/2012, at 7:39 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:

 Hi Daniel,
 
 I just get sick of them not getting back to the list after they have posted 
 asking for help.
 Then after days, others stat rambling on mentioning stuff that has already 
 been suggested.
 
 This Robert hasn't bothered to get back to the list, and so many others also 
 have asked questions, we have responded and never heard  anything back from 
 the person who asked the bloody question.
 
 Ah, I'm sick of them at the moment. Not going to answer anymore over the 
 week-end.
 The guy with the mouse problem has never done the tests that Carlo asked him 
 to do, which would have helped early on.
 He has never answered the original questions I asked... so he can get stuffed 
 also ;-)
 
 Using the USB mouse even on a white piece of paper it will work without 
 jumping... as long as it is a plain colour surface!
 
 Hugs,
 Ronni 
 
 On 12/05/2012, at 7:29 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni
 
 Yes, saw that, was just adding a little bit more to it as well,…well, my 
 2cents worth,..hehe.
 Sorry, should have said,..Adding to Ronni's post ;o)
 
 Kind regards
 Daniel
 
 Sent from my iPhone 4s
 
 ---
 Daniel Kerr
 MacWizardry
 
 Phone: 0414 795 960
 Email: daniel AT macwizardry.com.au
 Web:   http://www.macwizardry.com.au
 
 
 **For everything Macintosh**
 
 On 12/05/2012, at 7:22 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 Hi Daniel,
 
 Yes, I replied to Robert's query back on 10/05/2012 recommending your 
 hosting service that I use... HostingServicesWA.
 I'll paste my reply again:
 /Quote:
 Some time back I moved my MobileMe hosted iWeb created website, to another 
 Hosting Service (HostingServicesWA).
 www.hostingserviceswa.com.au  
 
 Basically;  In iWeb - Publish to: Local Folder on my hard drive instead of 
 to .Mac and then uploaded the folder contents to my server via FTP. 
 I purchased Transmit 4 as my FTP client program (after a lot of research to 
 find the best FTP client program).
 
 Originally I tried publishing directly from iWeb to FTP Server, but that 
 did not work successfully and found Publish To: Local Folder, and then use 
 a good FTP program (Transmit 4) to do the heavy work of uploading to my 
 Server worked perfectly.
 /End Quote
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
 
 OS X 10.7.4 Lion
 Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
 On 12/05/2012, at 7:14 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:
 
 Hi Robert
 
 I've switched a few people over from mobile me hosting to my hosting 
 service business (http://www.hostingservicewa.com.au).
 It has a lot of the MobileMe features and a lot more. All can be run out 
 of Cpanel (easy to work with) and has file manager and a lot more. Plus a 
 lot more email and features as well if required.
 You can directly upload from iWeb. The reason to either use the File 
 Manager or an FTP upload program is that MobileMe has a way to sort of 
 wreck the domain name.
 For example if you have your own domain name and then upload from iWeb 
 you'l get an address that looks like 
 http://www.mydomainname.com.au/mydomainname/home.html so it doubles it up. 
 Whereas by saving to a folder then directly uploading you get a much nicer 
 looking web address http://www.mydomain.com.au
 
 I also use Transmit, and although  not free it's quite cheap for it's 
 feature set, and it's very easy to use. You can favourite your site on 
 the left hand side (in a Finder looking window) and your Domain in the 
 right hand side. It then has a Sync feature that you just click on, and 
 any changes made in your site locally get uploaded to your site online. 
 Very easy. I've set a few of these up for other clients and shown them how 
 to use it all, while I was out doing other consulting work.
 
 My hosting set is actually written in iWeb and uploaded from the folder. 
 Very easy to look after.
 
 Hope that information helps :o)
 
 
 Kind regards
 Daniel
 
 Sent from my iPhone 4s
 
 ---
 Daniel Kerr
 MacWizardry
 
 Phone: 0414 795 960
 Email: daniel AT macwizardry.com.au
 Web:   http://www.macwizardry.com.au
 
 
 **For everything Macintosh**
 
 On 10/05/2012, at 8:25 AM, Robert Miller-Eves wrote:
 
 
 Are there any Wammuggers out there who have a mobileme website and have 
 been able to successfully transfer its content to a new website? I've 
 been battling with Joomla who say it's dead easy but frankly I'm 
 bamboozled by the technicalities. Any help/guidance 

Re: ***SPAM*** Re: Setting up a website to replace Mobileme

[Robert Miller-Eves]

By the way! Unfortunately , I'd already signed up with a Hosting service and 
paid the fee so I cannot, at this stage,take advantage of the hosting 
suggestions offered.If the current service cannot get me up and running I'll 
certainly be taking up one of those suggestions. Once again apologies for 
starting and upset!
Bob

On 13/05/2012, at 6:10 AM, Robert Miller-Eves wrote:

 Hi Ronni!.  and all you helpful Wammugers! APOLOGIES APOLOGIES APOLOGIES! I 
 had every intention of getting back to the list in response to all the 
 wonderful and helpful advice,but i too am totally overloaded with work,family 
 problems.I'm still battling to get this website up and am reading and 
 re-reading all the suggestions and trying to put them into practice. For some 
 reason nothing loads onto the website. I'll sort it out but for now I need a 
 break  -like you Ronni. Thank you all for your help,rest assured it is MUCH 
 appreciated.
 
 On 12/05/2012, at 7:39 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 Hi Daniel,
 
 I just get sick of them not getting back to the list after they have posted 
 asking for help.
 Then after days, others stat rambling on mentioning stuff that has already 
 been suggested.
 
 This Robert hasn't bothered to get back to the list, and so many others also 
 have asked questions, we have responded and never heard  anything back from 
 the person who asked the bloody question.
 
 Ah, I'm sick of them at the moment. Not going to answer anymore over the 
 week-end.
 The guy with the mouse problem has never done the tests that Carlo asked him 
 to do, which would have helped early on.
 He has never answered the original questions I asked... so he can get 
 stuffed also ;-)
 
 Using the USB mouse even on a white piece of paper it will work without 
 jumping... as long as it is a plain colour surface!
 
 Hugs,
 Ronni 
 
 On 12/05/2012, at 7:29 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni
 
 Yes, saw that, was just adding a little bit more to it as well,…well, my 
 2cents worth,..hehe.
 Sorry, should have said,..Adding to Ronni's post ;o)
 
 Kind regards
 Daniel
 
 Sent from my iPhone 4s
 
 ---
 Daniel Kerr
 MacWizardry
 
 Phone: 0414 795 960
 Email: daniel AT macwizardry.com.au
 Web:   http://www.macwizardry.com.au
 
 
 **For everything Macintosh**
 
 On 12/05/2012, at 7:22 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 Hi Daniel,
 
 Yes, I replied to Robert's query back on 10/05/2012 recommending your 
 hosting service that I use... HostingServicesWA.
 I'll paste my reply again:
 /Quote:
 Some time back I moved my MobileMe hosted iWeb created website, to another 
 Hosting Service (HostingServicesWA).
 www.hostingserviceswa.com.au  
 
 Basically;  In iWeb - Publish to: Local Folder on my hard drive instead of 
 to .Mac and then uploaded the folder contents to my server via FTP. 
 I purchased Transmit 4 as my FTP client program (after a lot of research 
 to find the best FTP client program).
 
 Originally I tried publishing directly from iWeb to FTP Server, but that 
 did not work successfully and found Publish To: Local Folder, and then use 
 a good FTP program (Transmit 4) to do the heavy work of uploading to my 
 Server worked perfectly.
 /End Quote
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
 
 OS X 10.7.4 Lion
 Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
 On 12/05/2012, at 7:14 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:
 
 Hi Robert
 
 I've switched a few people over from mobile me hosting to my hosting 
 service business (http://www.hostingservicewa.com.au).
 It has a lot of the MobileMe features and a lot more. All can be run out 
 of Cpanel (easy to work with) and has file manager and a lot more. Plus a 
 lot more email and features as well if required.
 You can directly upload from iWeb. The reason to either use the File 
 Manager or an FTP upload program is that MobileMe has a way to sort of 
 wreck the domain name.
 For example if you have your own domain name and then upload from iWeb 
 you'l get an address that looks like 
 http://www.mydomainname.com.au/mydomainname/home.html so it doubles it 
 up. Whereas by saving to a folder then directly uploading you get a much 
 nicer looking web address http://www.mydomain.com.au
 
 I also use Transmit, and although  not free it's quite cheap for it's 
 feature set, and it's very easy to use. You can favourite your site on 
 the left hand side (in a Finder looking window) and your Domain in the 
 right hand side. It then has a Sync feature that you just click on, and 
 any changes made in your site locally get uploaded to your site online. 
 Very easy. I've set a few of these up for other clients and shown them 
 how to use it all, while I was out doing other consulting work.
 
 My hosting set is actually written in iWeb and uploaded from the folder. 
 Very easy to look after.
 
 Hope that information helps :o)
 
 
 Kind regards
 Daniel
 
 Sent from my iPhone 4s
 
 ---
 Daniel Kerr
 MacWizardry
 
 Phone: 0414 795 960
 Email: daniel AT macwizardry.com.au
 Web:   

Re: Spam

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Tom,

Apple has engaged Medallia, an independent marketing research firm, to conduct 
this study. This survey is for research purposes only. Your survey response is 
shared only with Apple’s internal management team.

Apple have used Medallia for years for surveys.  Ive had this before for my 
last iPhone and again for iPhone 4 S.
 Its a legit customer satisfaction survey with no strings attached. 

They don't ask for any personal info and you don't have to download anything. 

Cheers,
Ronni

Sent from Ronni's iPad

On 31/10/2011, at 3:38 AM, tom samson thefr...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 I had the following Apple iphone_support_sur...@express.medallia.com which 
 seemed odd. And absentmindedly opened. It is not an apple site. Might be 
 cautious here.
 Tom Samson
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Re: Spam

[Ronda Brown]

Sorry people,

My first response was taken from another survey I received from from Apple, 
similar, but below is the one I received after purchasing my iPhone 4 S.
It includes at the bottom of the email Apple’s Privacy Policy. Nothing sinister 
here, it’s a very short survey how you rate the iPhone, no personal details at 
all ;-)

/Begin Quote:

From:   Apple iphone_support_sur...@express.medallia.com
Subject:Survey regarding your recent Apple iPhone purchase
Date:   29 October 2011 3:02:38 AM AWST
To: Apple Customer ro...@mac.com

Dear Apple iPhone Customer: 

Thank you for your purchase of the Apple iPhone. We would like to ask you a few 
questions about your experience with your new phone. 

We have retained Medallia, Inc to host this survey and collect your responses. 
We hope you will take a few minutes to take our survey. 

To complete this web survey, simply click on the web address (URL) displayed 
below or copy and paste the entire web address into the address field of your 
web browser.  You can complete this survey on your iPhone.

http://survey.medallia.com?c355ttwctmfmpzxlng=en_GB

The information you provide will be used to improve our product support.  We 
will not use your responses to sell you products or services.  If you have 
additional questions about how we will use this data, please consult our 
privacy policies (see below)

We value and appreciate your input. Thank you for your participation!

Apple
-

Please do not reply directly to this invitation.

For any issues with your iPhone please contact your carrier for support.

Survey assistance: Should you have any problems viewing or completing this 
survey, please email Medallia at 
mailto:apple_surveysupport.c355ttwctmfm...@express.medallia.com

For more information about Apple’s privacy policy, please go to:
http://www.apple.com/legal/privacy/ 

/End Quote:

Cheers,
Ronni

On 31/10/2011, at 6:00 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:

 Hi Tom,
 
 Apple has engaged Medallia, an independent marketing research firm, to 
 conduct this study. This survey is for research purposes only. Your survey 
 response is shared only with Apple’s internal management team.
 
 Apple have used Medallia for years for surveys.  Ive had this before for my 
 last iPhone and again for iPhone 4 S.
 Its a legit customer satisfaction survey with no strings attached. 
 
 They don't ask for any personal info and you don't have to download anything. 
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad
 
 On 31/10/2011, at 3:38 AM, tom samson thefr...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 I had the following Apple iphone_support_sur...@express.medallia.com which 
 seemed odd. And absentmindedly opened. It is not an apple site. Might be 
 cautious here.
 Tom Samson

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Re: spam appearing to come from WAMUG????

[Ken Jackson]

Yes I got one as well,

Thanks  regards,

Ken Jackson
089 376 1680
0409 770 747
kenjackson7...@gmail.com

Sent from my iPad

On 15/09/2011, at 8:11 AM, rb...@iinet.net.au rb...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 iS ANYONE ELSE GETTING THESE?
 I've recieved about 40 this morning
 blitto
 
 
 
 from
 WAMUG Mailing List wamug-h...@wamug.org.au
 
 Re: Automated message: Posting not allowed
 
 
 HIS IS AN AUTOMATED MESSAGE.
 
 Your message was not posted because you are not allowed
 to post messages to the mailing list wamug@wamug.org.au.
 
 
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Re: spam appearing to come from WAMUG????

[Ronda Brown]

On 15/09/2011, at 8:11 AM, rb...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 iS ANYONE ELSE GETTING THESE?
 I've recieved about 40 this morning
 blitto
 
 
 
 from
 WAMUG Mailing List wamug-h...@wamug.org.au
 
 Re: Automated message: Posting not allowed
 
 
 HIS IS AN AUTOMATED MESSAGE.
 
 Your message was not posted because you are not allowed
 to post messages to the mailing list wamug@wamug.org.au.
 
 
 -
 This mail system is powered by Kerio Connect 7.2.2.

Hi Blitto,

No, I haven’t received any of these messages. 
Have you looked at the “Long Headers” it should show where they are originating 
from.

Cheers,
Ronni

17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
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Re: spam appearing to come from WAMUG????

[Eugene]

Hi Rod,Me neither. All quiet on the western front.Whatever you are getting it is now coming through WAMUG
   Regards,  Eugene   

On 15/09/2011, at 8:21 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:On 15/09/2011, at 8:11 AM, rb...@iinet.net.au wrote:

iS ANYONE ELSE GETTING THESE?
I've recieved about 40 this morning
blitto



 from
WAMUG Mailing List wamug-h...@wamug.org.au

Re: Automated message: Posting not allowed


HIS IS AN AUTOMATED MESSAGE.

Your message was not posted because you are not allowed
to post messages to the mailing list "wamug@wamug.org.au".


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This mail system is powered by Kerio Connect 7.2.2.
Hi Blitto,No, I haven’t received any of these messages.Have you looked at the “Long Headers” it should show where they are originating from.
Cheers,Ronni17" MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt"2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HDOS X 10.6.8 Snow LeopardOS X 10.7 LionWindows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)





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Re: spam appearing to come from WAMUG????

[rb...@iinet.net.au]

Thanks Ronni
can see Facebook in there?
Long Headers are below:
just worried i have done something wrong or am affecting others?
ta
blitto

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On 15/09/2011, at 8:11 AM, rb...@iinet.net.au wrote:

iS ANYONE ELSE GETTING THESE?

I've recieved about 40 this morning

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Hi Blitto,
No, I haven’t received any of these messages.Have you looked at the “Long Headers” it should show where they are originating from.

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Re: spam appearing to come from WAMUG????

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Blitto,

Yes, it appears to be generated from Facebook, certainly not coming from WAMUG.
Do you have a Facebook Account?

Cheers,
Ronni

On 15/09/2011, at 8:53 AM, rb...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Thanks Ronni
 can see Facebook in there?
 Long Headers are below:
  just worried i have done something wrong or am affecting others?
 ta
 blitto
 
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 On 15/09/2011, at 8:11 AM, rb...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 iS ANYONE ELSE GETTING THESE?
 I've recieved about 40 this morning
 blitto
 
 
 
 from
 WAMUG Mailing List wamug-h...@wamug.org.au
 
 Re: Automated message: Posting not allowed
 
 
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 Hi Blitto,
 
 No, I haven’t received any of these messages. 
 Have you looked at the “Long Headers” it should show where they are 
 originating from.


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Re: spam appearing to come from WAMUG????

[rb...@iinet.net.au]

Yes I do have Facebook Ronni.
I now have received about 60 of these emails now plus it seems other people are getting them and they appear to have come from me.
I don't know what to do.
My apologies to anyone who is getting these .
Blitto

 

On Thu Sep 15 10:21 , Ronda Brown  sent:

Hi Blitto,
Yes, it appears to be generated from Facebook, certainly not coming from WAMUG.Do you have a Facebook Account?
Cheers,Ronni
On 15/09/2011, at 8:53 AM, rb...@iinet.net.au wrote:

Thanks Ronni

can see Facebook in there?

Long Headers are below:

just worried i have done something wrong or am affecting others?

ta

blitto



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On 15/09/2011, at 8:11 AM, rb...@iinet.net.au wrote:

iS ANYONE ELSE GETTING THESE?


I've recieved about 40 this morning


blitto











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Hi Blitto,

No, I haven’t received any of these messages.Have you looked at the “Long Headers” it should show where they are originating from.


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Re: spam appearing to come from WAMUG????

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Blitto,

Sounds like your Facebook Account or one of your ‘Friends’ Facebook Accounts 
could have been hacked or email account compromised.
Can you Login to your Facebook Account?
If so change your Password and Security Settings.

Report a Security Problem:
http://www.facebook.com/help?page=420

On 15/09/2011, at 10:25 AM, rb...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Yes I do have Facebook Ronni.
 I now have received about 60 of these emails now plus it seems other people 
 are getting them and they appear to have come from me.
 I don't know what to do.
 My apologies to anyone who is getting these .
 Blitto
 
 
 
 On Thu Sep 15 10:21 , Ronda Brown sent:
 
 Hi Blitto,
 
 Yes, it appears to be generated from Facebook, certainly not coming from 
 WAMUG.
 Do you have a Facebook Account?
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 15/09/2011, at 8:53 AM, rb...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Thanks Ronni
 can see Facebook in there?
 Long Headers are below:
  just worried i have done something wrong or am affecting others?
 ta
 blitto
 
 From: WAMUG Mailing List wamug-h...@wamug.org.au
 Subject: Re: Automated message: Posting not allowed
 Date: 15 September 2011 7:00:45 AM AWST
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 On Thu Sep 15 8:21 , Ronda Brown sent:
 
 
 On 15/09/2011, at 8:11 AM, rb...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 iS ANYONE ELSE GETTING THESE?
 I've recieved about 40 this morning
 blitto
 
 
 
 from
 WAMUG Mailing List wamug-h...@wamug.org.au
 
 Re: Automated message: Posting not allowed
 
 
 HIS IS AN AUTOMATED MESSAGE.
 
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 Hi Blitto,
 
 No, I haven’t received any of these messages. 
 Have you looked at the “Long Headers” it should show where they are 
 originating from.
 
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 





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Re: Spam bombardment

[Ronda Brown]

Hello Eugene,

When the Junk emails appears in your Inbox, select them, then click  
Junk in the Toolbar, or choose Message  Mark  As Junk Mail.

Then the spam messages will at least go into your Junk Folder.

Cheers,
Ronni

On 12/08/2008, at 1:08 PM, Eugene wrote:


Hi Paul,

yep I'm getting about 15 - 20 per day. Trying to work out how to get  
Mail to target them.


 Regards,
 Eugene




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Re: Spam bombardment

[Barb Zahari]

I think it's *your* email address, not Westnet per se.

I don't actually use my old IT email address but it's still running so 
I can pick up the odd stragglers who haven't  got my Westnet email 
address yet.
The old IT address started getting massive amounts of spam before I 
changed to Westnet  is now getting 60 or more spam emails a day 
(including the CNN one).


My Westnet email address so far gets NO spam at all,  I haven't paid 
for their spam filtering service.


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On 12 Aug 2008, at 1:21 PM, Paul Weaver wrote:

Well I'm sort of happy that it's not only me that's been picked on.
However it does seem that Westnet clients are more vulnerable to
these spammers because the ISP charges $30 a year extra to include
spam filtering.  I've been with Westnet for a few years, but maybe
it's time to start shopping around for better service.   Any
suggestions?

PW.



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Re: Spam bombardment

[Eugene]

Thanks Ronni,

I have done that to every one that comes into my mailbox. Mail  
doesn't get the hint.


  Regards,
  Eugene


On 12/08/2008, at 2:49 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hello Eugene,

When the Junk emails appears in your Inbox, select them, then click  
Junk in the Toolbar, or choose Message  Mark  As Junk Mail.

Then the spam messages will at least go into your Junk Folder.

Cheers,
Ronni

On 12/08/2008, at 1:08 PM, Eugene wrote:


Hi Paul,

yep I'm getting about 15 - 20 per day. Trying to work out how to  
get Mail to target them.


 Regards,
 Eugene




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Re: Spam bombardment

[Robert Howells]

On 12/08/2008, at 3:13 PM, Eugene wrote:


Thanks Ronni,

I have done that to every one that comes into my mailbox. Mail  
doesn't get the hint.


 Regards,
 Eugene



It helps if you go Mail preferences - Rules
setup a rule and keep modifying it until you have enough data in the  
rule

to shift the spam to the spam box .

Bob










On 12/08/2008, at 2:49 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hello Eugene,

When the Junk emails appears in your Inbox, select them, then click  
Junk in the Toolbar, or choose Message  Mark  As Junk Mail.

Then the spam messages will at least go into your Junk Folder.

Cheers,
Ronni

On 12/08/2008, at 1:08 PM, Eugene wrote:


Hi Paul,

yep I'm getting about 15 - 20 per day. Trying to work out how to  
get Mail to target them.


Regards,
Eugene




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Re: Spam bombardment

[Shay Telfer]

Coverage on Slashdot about the CNN spam

http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/08/06/2214257

Note also Apple/MobileMe targetted phishing:

http://www.macintouch.com/readerreports/security/topic4252.html#d11aug2008

Have fun,
Shay (whose copy of postfix is throwing CNN spam away like crazy)

Kyle Kreusch wrote:

 Hi Paul

 Im getting 70+ of those e-mails a day at my Gmail Account Luckily
 Gmail has been putting them straight into the spam folder.

 Paul do You have any spam filtering done by your ISP some ISPs in
 Australia Make you pay extra for spam filtering


 Kyle

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Re: Spam bombardment

[Ray Forma]

My ISP = AAPT
No charge for spam filtering.
Nil CNN spam.
About 5 spam emails from other sources get through per day.


  On Tue 225 Aug,, at 11:42 AM, Paul Weaver wrote:
  I wondering if anyone else is getting bombarded with spam marked

CNN

 Alert?  I've been getting one about every ten minutes for the

last

  week or so.


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Re: Spam bombardment

[Reg Whitely]

No CNN spam using Internode ISP. I've not changed their default spam  
settings so most likely they are on the ball.

Good luck
Reg

On 12 Aug 2008, at 6:50pm, Ray Forma wrote:


My ISP = AAPT
No charge for spam filtering.
Nil CNN spam.
About 5 spam emails from other sources get through per day.


 On Tue 225 Aug,, at 11:42 AM, Paul Weaver wrote:
 I wondering if anyone else is getting bombarded with spam marked

CNN

Alert?  I've been getting one about every ten minutes for the

last

 week or so.


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Re: Spam bombardment

[Peter Curtis]

Same here! AAPT
virtually no spam at all
Peter
On 12/08/2008, at 6:50 PM, Ray Forma wrote:



My ISP = AAPT
No charge for spam filtering.
Nil CNN spam.
About 5 spam emails from other sources get through per day.


  On Tue 225 Aug,, at 11:42 AM, Paul Weaver wrote:
  I wondering if anyone else is getting bombarded with spam  
marked

CNN

 Alert?  I've been getting one about every ten minutes for the

last

  week or so.


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Re: Spam bombardment

[Peter Sealy]

On Tue 225 Aug,, at 11:42 AM, Paul Weaver wrote:


I wondering if anyone else is getting bombarded with spam marked CNN
Alert?  I've been getting one about every ten minutes for the last
week or so.



Sorry, but this is not going to help your digestion, but I have not  
received a single spam for months. I believe that my ISP has a very  
robust sieve process. Perhaps a call to your ISP may shed some light  
on the problem?



.

Peter Sealy
Thurgoona AUSTRALIA


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Re: Spam bombardment

[Dark1]

I've had a few marked in that way.  Nothing like the quantities your  
getting (only about 3 per week).




On Tue 225 Aug,, at 11:42 AM, Paul Weaver wrote:


I wondering if anyone else is getting bombarded with spam marked CNN
Alert?  I've been getting one about every ten minutes for the last
week or so.



Sorry, but this is not going to help your digestion, but I have not  
received a single spam for months. I believe that my ISP has a very  
robust sieve process. Perhaps a call to your ISP may shed some light  
on the problem?



.

Peter Sealy
Thurgoona AUSTRALIA


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Re: Spam bombardment

[Kyle Kreusch]

Hi Paul

Im getting 70+ of those e-mails a day at my Gmail Account Luckily
Gmail has been putting them straight into the spam folder.

Paul do You have any spam filtering done by your ISP some ISPs in
Australia Make you pay extra for spam filtering


Kyle


On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 10:26 AM, Dark1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've had a few marked in that way.  Nothing like the quantities your getting
 (only about 3 per week).


 On Tue 225 Aug,, at 11:42 AM, Paul Weaver wrote:

 I wondering if anyone else is getting bombarded with spam marked CNN
 Alert?  I've been getting one about every ten minutes for the last
 week or so.


 Sorry, but this is not going to help your digestion, but I have not
 received a single spam for months. I believe that my ISP has a very robust
 sieve process. Perhaps a call to your ISP may shed some light on the
 problem?


 .

 Peter Sealy
 Thurgoona AUSTRALIA


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Re: Spam bombardment

[Ken Houghton]

No problems here.
On 12/08/2008, at 9:42 AM, Paul Weaver wrote:


I wondering if anyone else is getting bombarded with spam marked CNN
Alert?  I've been getting one about every ten minutes for the last
week or so.

Paul.


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Re: Spam bombardment

[cb]

Hi guys

yep Im getting heaps out here in the timor sea through Westnet. I
actually quizzed them this morning and they dont actually do anything
unless you notify them of which ones to filter via your email client
and it goes to labs.sophos.com, what ever that is! 
Apparently they are bringing in a new email system very soon and I
assume better filtering. And you are right it costs to filter

regards

chris

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: wamug@wamug.org.au
Subject: Re: Spam bombardment
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 12:09:39 +0800

Hi Paul

Im getting 70+ of those e-mails a day at my Gmail Account Luckily
Gmail has been putting them straight into the spam folder.

Paul do You have any spam filtering done by your ISP some ISPs in
Australia Make you pay extra for spam filtering


Kyle


On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 10:26 AM, Dark1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've had a few marked in that way.  Nothing like the quantities
your getting
 (only about 3 per week).


 On Tue 225 Aug,, at 11:42 AM, Paul Weaver wrote:

 I wondering if anyone else is getting bombarded with spam marked
CNN
 Alert?  I've been getting one about every ten minutes for the
last
 week or so.


 Sorry, but this is not going to help your digestion, but I have
not
 received a single spam for months. I believe that my ISP has a
very robust
 sieve process. Perhaps a call to your ISP may shed some light on
the
 problem?


 .

 Peter Sealy
 Thurgoona AUSTRALIA


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Re: Spam bombardment

[Eugene]

Hi Paul,

yep I'm getting about 15 - 20 per day. Trying to work out how to get  
Mail to target them.


  Regards,
  Eugene


On 12/08/2008, at 12:55 PM, Ken Houghton wrote:


No problems here.
On 12/08/2008, at 9:42 AM, Paul Weaver wrote:


I wondering if anyone else is getting bombarded with spam marked CNN
Alert?  I've been getting one about every ten minutes for the last
week or so.

Paul.


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Re: Spam bombardment

[Paul Weaver]

Well I'm sort of happy that it's not only me that's been picked on. 
However it does seem that Westnet clients are more vulnerable to
these spammers because the ISP charges $30 a year extra to include
spam filtering.  I've been with Westnet for a few years, but maybe
it's time to start shopping around for better service.   Any
suggestions?

PW.


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Re: Spam bombardment

[Kyle Kreusch]

Hi Paul, I have set up a few members from GMUG
http://www.gmug.org.au/blog/ including myself With Gmail accounts.

Then we have Our Gmail account check our ISP e-mail address It works
great filters out all spam most of us have not received a single spam
message in our inbox in over a year.


Kyle

On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 1:21 PM, Paul Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Well I'm sort of happy that it's not only me that's been picked on.
 However it does seem that Westnet clients are more vulnerable to
 these spammers because the ISP charges $30 a year extra to include
 spam filtering.  I've been with Westnet for a few years, but maybe
 it's time to start shopping around for better service.   Any
 suggestions?

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Re: SPAM? Malware?

[Adam hewitt]

It could be an email harvester.

If someone sends an email to an address that doesn't exist it will bounce
back saying no such user. If they keep track of all the accounts they sent
emails to, then they can deduct the bounces and are left with a valid user
list. Unfortunately there is very little that can be done about it.

I get these from time to time as well.

Adam.

 -Original Message-
 From: WAMUG Mailing List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Neil
 Houghton
 Sent: Thursday, 8 May 2008 10:18 AM
 To: WAMUG Mailing List
 Subject: SPAM? Malware?
 
 Just received an email with no content, no subject and apparently
 from
 no-one! If you view the message source it just shows:
 
  Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Received: from nskntingx04p.mx.bigpond.com ([92.113.126.10])
by nskntmtas03p.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP
id
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 gpond.c
  om;
Wed, 7 May 2008 20:09:29 +
  Received: from 10-126-113-92.pool.ukrtel.net ([92.113.126.10])
by nskntingx04p.mx.bigpond.com with SMTP
id
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 92.pool.ukrtel
  .net;
Wed, 7 May 2008 20:09:27 +
  Received: from matrices.misstitty.com (helo mortify.host-offshore.com
  [68.30.246.136])
 by asus.com with SMTP id O[10
  Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 20:09:29 +
  Message-Id:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 92.pool.ukrtel
  .net
 
 
 
 None of which means much to me! But it got me thinking:
 
 1) - It wouldn't seem to be much use as SPAM because there is no
 subject or
 content to tempt anyone, there is no link to click, and even if you
 were
 curious enough (or stupid enough) to try and reply - there is no-one to
 reply to - if you DO hit the reply button the email program asks you
 for a
 to address.
 
 2) - Assuming that the view source shows you everything, it does not
 seem
 to contain anything which could be malicious (just a few headers)
 
 3) - Even though the to field is blank, hitting the reply button
 generates
 a blank reply from my bigpond account so I'm assuming it came in via
 this
 account (it has come from somewhere!).
 
 Anybody got any thoughts/info on this - as I say, it appears pretty
 harmless
 but is there anything to worry about - could it be any sign of
 something
 lurking on my machine?
 
 
 Cheers
 
 
 Neil
 --
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 Albany, Western Australia
 Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
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Re: (SPAM) wamug Digest #1580

[Philip Trouchet]

On 11/12/2007, at 5:03 AM, WAMUG Mailing List wrote:


   WAMUG Mailing List Digest #1580

6) Suggestions for email client
   by Rob Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Subject: Re: Suggestions for email client



Hi everyone,

After more than a decade of using Eudora, it's time to move on to
something faster and better supported. What are your suggestions?

I don't want to use Entourage or anything M$, although my university
uses Exchange.  I want to use POP, and store my mail on my own  
machine

and manage where I put my own attachments.

Is Apple's Mail a good choice?  What else is out there?

Cheers
Rob



Apple's Mail is fast, has a clean interface and is easy to use.
Each time I think it's time for as  change, I go back to Mail within
days !!

   Don't underestimate Thunderbird, I find it's excellent for fine  
control. Ciao  philip.


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Re: Spam Filter.

[Paul Kitchener]

Malcolm McCallum wrote:

Hi everyone. I am curious to know if my actions in regard to Westnet's 
spam filter is the same as everyone else. When I first employed the 
filter I religiously read the 'email' of spams they sent me but as my 
recall rate was virtually nil I now delete the email which shows the 
spam mail I have received without reading it.  :-(  Is  this the a 
common practice?



Hi Mac

I am no longer with Westnet but I remember using the spam filter service.
It is a Sophos product I believe.

I used it pretty much as you do, I would quickly scan down the list to 
look for any familiar names, you know, ones that don't look like Hartog 
D. Pennythrift etc.


I usually only found the odd one from WAMUG really.
The longer I did this the less mistakes it made, quite good I found, but 
certainly not one in a million. More like one in five hundred.

This did not take too long.

Nowadays I'm just using gmail and to my knowledge it's filter hasn't 
made a mistake yet.


HTH

Paul

Re: Spam Filter.

[Lloyd White]

Hi Mac,

I use Entourage which has its own spam filter - partially effective - and
also have SpamSieve which is far more efficient and dumps it all in my Junk
folder. 

BUT it makes mistakes and dumps ordinary mail there too. A lot of orders for
my book get dumped! I am not sure what triggers it but I have to check each
spam or junk before deleting it . Rather defeats the purpose.

Lloyd .




 Hi everyone. I am curious to know if my actions in regard to
 Westnet's spam filter is the same as everyone else. When I first
 employed the filter I religiously read the 'email' of spams they sent
 me but as my recall rate was virtually nil I now delete the email
 which shows the spam mail I have received without reading it.  :-
 (  Is  this the a common practice?
 \
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Re: Spam Filter.

[Robert Howells]

On 12/03/2007, at 1:34 PM, Lloyd White wrote:


Hi Mac,

I use Entourage which has its own spam filter - partially effective  
- and
also have SpamSieve which is far more efficient and dumps it all in  
my Junk

folder.

BUT it makes mistakes and dumps ordinary mail there too. A lot of  
orders for
my book get dumped! I am not sure what triggers it but I have to  
check each

spam or junk before deleting it . Rather defeats the purpose.

Lloyd .




Using Mail I employrules   which have been expanded until they  
catch 95% plus of junk

and direct it into  Junk   mail box .

Mailboxes have been set to show sender , addressee and subject .

Just looking at the Junk mail box index I can pick the odd real  
message and drag to the inbox.


NO need to read the junk , just clear the box with   option Apple J
and an OK .


Bob

Re: Spam Filter.

[Adam Hewitt]

I am not 100% sure of the SPAM filters currently used by Westnet  
however I am fairly sure that they are the same appliances that are  
used by iiNet. These devices barely even utilize baysian filters but  
use a global network of probes to monitor email traffic patterns and  
can block connections before they even get to the email servers based  
on the IP address the connection is being created from. They cost  
hundreds of thousands of dollars and have a false positive rate of  
under 1 in 1 million emails.


Based on this information I would recommend changing the delivery  
options in your account tools to delete the spam emails before they  
even get to your inbox, that way you aren't paying for spammers to  
use your bandwidth. I have been doing this for roughly a year and I  
am yet to find out that I have missed an email. Lets face it, email  
is not a reliable enough medium where people are using it to the  
point that missing an email would be the end of the world, so even if  
you do miss one email in a million chances are it wont matter.


Adam.

On 12/03/2007, at 1:35 PM, Malcolm McCallum wrote:

Hi everyone. I am curious to know if my actions in regard to  
Westnet's spam filter is the same as everyone else. When I first  
employed the filter I religiously read the 'email' of spams they  
sent me but as my recall rate was virtually nil I now delete the  
email which shows the spam mail I have received without reading  
it.  :-(  Is  this the a common practice?

\
Mac
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Re: Spam Filter.

[Malcolm McCallum]

I would only find the very,very occasional mistake :-0
Mac
On 12/03/2007, at 2:34 PM, Lloyd White wrote:


Hi Mac,

I use Entourage which has its own spam filter - partially effective  
- and
also have SpamSieve which is far more efficient and dumps it all in  
my Junk

folder.

BUT it makes mistakes and dumps ordinary mail there too. A lot of  
orders for
my book get dumped! I am not sure what triggers it but I have to  
check each

spam or junk before deleting it . Rather defeats the purpose.

Lloyd .





Hi everyone. I am curious to know if my actions in regard to
Westnet's spam filter is the same as everyone else. When I first
employed the filter I religiously read the 'email' of spams they sent
me but as my recall rate was virtually nil I now delete the email
which shows the spam mail I have received without reading it.  :-
(  Is  this the a common practice?
\
Mac
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Re: Spam Filter.

[Malcolm McCallum]

My point Adam,I do not even check apart from an ultra-rapid down the  
list.

Mac
On 12/03/2007, at 4:24 PM, Adam Hewitt wrote:

I am not 100% sure of the SPAM filters currently used by Westnet  
however I am fairly sure that they are the same appliances that are  
used by iiNet. These devices barely even utilize baysian filters  
but use a global network of probes to monitor email traffic  
patterns and can block connections before they even get to the  
email servers based on the IP address the connection is being  
created from. They cost hundreds of thousands of dollars and have a  
false positive rate of under 1 in 1 million emails.


Based on this information I would recommend changing the delivery  
options in your account tools to delete the spam emails before they  
even get to your inbox, that way you aren't paying for spammers to  
use your bandwidth. I have been doing this for roughly a year and I  
am yet to find out that I have missed an email. Lets face it, email  
is not a reliable enough medium where people are using it to the  
point that missing an email would be the end of the world, so even  
if you do miss one email in a million chances are it wont matter.


Adam.

On 12/03/2007, at 1:35 PM, Malcolm McCallum wrote:

Hi everyone. I am curious to know if my actions in regard to  
Westnet's spam filter is the same as everyone else. When I first  
employed the filter I religiously read the 'email' of spams they  
sent me but as my recall rate was virtually nil I now delete the  
email which shows the spam mail I have received without reading  
it.  :-(  Is  this the a common practice?

\
Mac
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Re: Spam Filter.

[Stephen Chape]

I have considered installing a spam filter also, but I cannot  
understand the point if you still have to go through the emails  
anyway just to make sure it's done the job correctly. Might just as  
well go through them in the Inbox and delete them myself.


On 12/03/2007, at 1:35 PM, Malcolm McCallum wrote:

Hi everyone. I am curious to know if my actions in regard to  
Westnet's spam filter is the same as everyone else. When I first  
employed the filter I religiously read the 'email' of spams they  
sent me but as my recall rate was virtually nil I now delete the  
email which shows the spam mail I have received without reading  
it.  :-(  Is  this the a common practice?

\
Mac
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Regards,
Stephen Chape

Re: Spam Filter.

[Steven]

Steve, I don't disagree with your logic, but I have a filter operating and
although I do check the junk mail folder regularly, it can be done at a
convenient time, rather than my inbox alerting me of incoming email every
few minutes and annoying the cr*p outta me.

I use Entourage and employ its junk mail filter on low setting. Works pretty
well.

Cheers, Steven 


On 12/3/07 7:31 PM, Stephen Chape [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have considered installing a spam filter also, but I cannot
 understand the point if you still have to go through the emails
 anyway just to make sure it's done the job correctly. Might just as
 well go through them in the Inbox and delete them myself.
 
 On 12/03/2007, at 1:35 PM, Malcolm McCallum wrote:
 
 Hi everyone. I am curious to know if my actions in regard to
 Westnet's spam filter is the same as everyone else. When I first
 employed the filter I religiously read the 'email' of spams they
 sent me but as my recall rate was virtually nil I now delete the
 email which shows the spam mail I have received without reading
 it.  :-(  Is  this the a common practice?
 \
 Mac
 Malcolm McCallum
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Skype docmactor
 
 Regards,
 Stephen Chape

Re: Spam with mac.com mail ?

[Ronda Brown]

On 20/03/2006, at 9:02 AM, Philip Trouchet wrote:

Is it only me but I'm getting much more spam thru my .mac a/c. Very  
little now with filters in my personal address. Is there some  
filter so that I only get my mail only  not generalised Junk  
sent thru .mac.com a/c. Tia  Ciao  P.


Hi Philip,

Yep, I receive more Spam through my .mac address than my Westnet  
address.


I did this awhile back  it cut down the spam I was receiving  
through .mac address.


Go to mail preferences and then select the 'viewing' section deselect  
the option to 'Display remote images in HTML messages'


Any e-mail with a picture in will not load up now, as email spammers  
use images with code in them to validate that an email address has  
received the SPAM and is therefore open to receive more SPAM then  
this will mean that they will get this return message. As some spam  
does not look to contain an image, but does in fact contain one, this  
will cut down your spam.


You will soon see that even emails which do not look as though they  
have images in them, the button to 'Load' images will be displayed.


You will quickly learn which are legitimate emails which contain  
images you want to view and which do not.


Also you might want to re-set the junk mail filter and re-train it so  
that it now only filters out real spam.


Cheers,
Ronni
Car'n The Pies

Re: Spam with mac.com mail ?

[Wendy S. Austin]

Hi Philip

You are not alone, I have been getting approximately two spam  
messages each day on my .mac account for about the last month, it is  
the only spam I receive.


Cheers

Wendy


On 20 Mar 2006, at 05:02, Philip Trouchet wrote:

Is it only me but I'm getting much more spam thru my .mac a/c. Very  
little now with filters in my personal address. Is there some filter  
so that I only get my mail only  not generalised Junk sent  
thru .mac.com a/c. Tia  Ciao  P.




Wendy Austin  Thomas Oswin
Coastal Road
Pomponette via Surinam
Mauritius Island

Re: Spam address in Address book

[Robert Howells]

On 4 Feb 2006, at 8:23 PM, Paul Weaver wrote:

A spammer's email address for penile enlargement appears when I am 
setting
up an email on Entourage 10.1.4 to people with the letter P in their 
name.

I have searched the address book but can't find it for deletion.  Any
sensible suggestions please.  Using OS 10.3.9 with the latest security
updates.

Thanks, Paul.



Try
Enourage - Preferences-Mail-compose- uncheck 'recent addresses

Re: Spam address in Address book

[Paul Weaver]

On 5/2/06 5:04 AM, WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au wrote:

 From: Robert Howells [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Spam address in Address book
 Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2006 00:47:03 +0800
 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.623)
 
 
 On 4 Feb 2006, at 8:23 PM, Paul Weaver wrote:
 
 A spammer's email address for penile enlargement appears when I am
 setting
 up an email on Entourage 10.1.4 to people with the letter P in their
 name.
 I have searched the address book but can't find it for deletion.  Any
 sensible suggestions please.  Using OS 10.3.9 with the latest security
 updates.
 
 Thanks, Paul.
 
 
 Try
 Enourage - Preferences-Mail-compose- uncheck 'recent addresses
 
Robert provided me with the right advice.  Thanks mate.  Another triumph for
a member of the WAMUG list.  I went one step further.  On the same window
there is a button for clear recent addresses and that seems to have done
the job permanently.

Last night I downloaded a free Entourage update from MS and so it is now
Version 10.1.6

Now with the new version, attachments don't automatically open unless the
email is double clicked, unlike before when I just single clicked.  I guess
this is to prevent spam being inadvertently opened when trashing.

Thanks again, Paul.


-- 

Dr Paul Weaver
http://www.livejournal.com/users/fremantlebiz/calendar

Re: Spam address in Address book

[Robert Howells]

Try
Enourage - Preferences-Mail-compose- uncheck 'recent addresses

Robert provided me with the right advice.  Thanks mate.  Another 
triumph for
a member of the WAMUG list.  I went one step further.  On the same 
window
there is a button for clear recent addresses and that seems to have 
done

the job permanently.

Last night I downloaded a free Entourage update from MS and so it is 
now

Version 10.1.6

Now with the new version, attachments don't automatically open unless 
the

email is double clicked, unlike before when I just single clicked.


There may be a way top control that !
With Entourage active
Try the Entourage Help option under help . and type in just the word  
Attachments 

to search for all possibilities !

Bob








--

Dr Paul Weaver
http://www.livejournal.com/users/fremantlebiz/calendar




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Re: Spam and Spamcop.

[Onno Benschop]

On Wed, 2004-06-09 at 15:13, Ken Woods wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 A friend of mine has informed me that her emails to me are being sent back
 to her with the message Blocked by Spamcop.
 
 However the messages she has sent have arrived at my inbox, but not from her
 normal Bigpond account.  They from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 I have never had any dealing with Spamcop and am a little intrigued by these
 occurrences! Is it a problem with Telstra or just a rogue bug.

Information about this can be found here:
http://www.spamcop.net/

Onno Benschop 

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