Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press]: The Hindu : "Contest to add files to Tamil Wikipedia gathers steam"

[Shrinivasan T]

that nice tinu.

thanks for the nice explanation.

now it is clear for me.

keep up your services.

thanks.
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press]: The Hindu : "Contest to add files to Tamil Wikipedia gathers steam"

[CherianTinu Abraham]

Hi Shrinivasan,

Please note that the copyrights of the content of articles on publications
( newspapers, magazines) resides with the publisher.

For example, look at the bottom of this article
http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/article2719118.ece

"*Republication or redissemination of the contents of this screen are
expressly prohibited without the written consent of The Hindu. *"

I am just sharing the contents of the article to the list in  good faith,
while at the same time acknowledging the copyrights of
the original publisher. Treat it as a legal disclaimer from my side ! :)
I have to do this as this is a publicly archived ( &  mirrored too )
mailing list.
Share at own risk !

Regards
Tinu Cherian

On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Shrinivasan T wrote:

> the note means not to share to others.
>
> please don't add such notes.
>
> I May be wrong. please explain if so.
>
> thanks.
>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press]: The Hindu : "Contest to add files to Tamil Wikipedia gathers steam"

[Shrinivasan T]

the note means not to share to others.

please don't add such notes.

I May be wrong. please explain if so.

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Webfonts deployment on Indic Wikiprojects

[വിശ്വപ്രഭ]

Praveen Prakash +1

On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 09:46, Praveen Prakash  wrote:

> There is lot to say. But i don't want to derail this thread. Pls start
> a new thread.
>
> On 16/12/2011, Anivar Aravind  wrote:
> > On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 8:49 AM, Praveen Prakash 
> > wrote:
> >> I haven't seen any communication in any open platform with Malayalam
> >> Community members about this matter. A few weeks before I had a brief
> >> discussion with Santhosh about webfonts. But it was nothing about
> >> webfonts'
> >> rendering bugs. Infact, popular (and beautiful) Malayalam fonts are open
> >> licensed, but there are other rendering bugs.  Issue I raised was about
> an
> >> unnessessory char code change doing by webfonts which I felt a
> propaganda
> >> pushing in favor of his idea about some characters, and which need
> >> additional scripts on both client (= additional bandwidth) and server.
> But
> >> Santhosh quit the thread claiming my concerns are my pure imaginations.
> :)
> >> Naturally thread died.
> >
> > Praveen Do you mean this bug ?
> > https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=29005
> >
> > The bug speaks itself .
> >
> > From a quick reading I felt what you were asking is to use not
> > properly forked font projects in webfonts, when santhosh took a stand
> > to use fonts them from upstream.
> >
> > On Normalization of characters,  it is an optional feature, for
> > visibility of some chillus  , that can be disabled in user settings if
> > needed.
> > It perfectly makes sense for me, since dual encoding is an issue in
> > Malayalam , and the fix need to be on Unicode . The Webfonts hack is
> > just a positive step and optional fix to ensure, people will not be
> > missed from accessing knowledge in wikipedia , based on browser
> > restrictions.
> >
> >
> > Anivar
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >> I know Malayalam Wikimedian 'Vssun' tried to have an open conversation
> on
> >> Gerard's talk page, after Gerard's notice, but didn't see any
> development.
> >> As far as now I know no one, who was sure about webfonts deployment on
> ml
> >> projects.
> >>
> >> I certainly do not want webfonts in its current form in any of the
> >> Malayalam
> >> Wikiprojects. But I want to know why Malayalam is excluded from this
> >> deployment and I want to know why such a code deployed on many other
> >> wikies.
> >>
> >> I personally don't like Santhosh's enthusiasm to fly his scripts on
> >> wikimedia servers, based on his "I am correct, I am correct, I am the
> only
> >> correct" attitude.
> >>
> >> If webfonts is too bad for your language, I urge you to file a bug for
> >> removing it.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 2:19 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan
> >>  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> If you want to test something new, either make it opt in, or don't do
> >>> it live. Not on Tamil, not on Hindi, not on any Wikipedia for that
> >>> matter.
> >>>
> >>> On 12/14/11, Ravishankar  wrote:
> >>> > On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 1:01 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan
> >>> > wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >> I dont think its appropriate to be a bit more experimental. You are
> >>> >> seeing
> >>> >> the scale in absolute sense, we are seeing it in relative sense.
> Tamil
> >>> >> Wikipedia is 7th most-viewed Tamil site.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > +1. Similar stats can be observed for most of the Indic language Wiki
> >>> > projects with sizable content as they are the only / major source of
> >>> > reference online for the respective languages.
> >>> >
> >>> > Ravi
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Srikanth Ramakrishnan.
> >>> Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on December 10th.
> >>> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press]: The Hindu : "Contest to add files to Tamil Wikipedia gathers steam"

[Pradeep Mohandas]

this is a public mailing list. Feel free to fwd to anyone.

Pradeep
Handheld

On 16/12/2011, Shrinivasan T  wrote:
> what does the important note mean?
> does the hindu say not to reproduce?
>
> shall I forward this mail to other mailing lists ?
>
> or should not?
>


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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press]: The Hindu : "Contest to add files to Tamil Wikipedia gathers steam"

[CherianTinu Abraham]

Thanks Ravi.
Btw it was a not a press release. ( meaning we didn't write the contents
and they didn't publish it blindly)
It was an article entirely written by the reporter. Yes, we contacted the
reporter in the first place and then gave our "inputs" :)
I know what you actually meant, but "Press release" refers differently in
the PR/Media world, hence the clarification.

Here is the image of the print edition  http://twitpic.com/7twj95 (Thanks
Bala for the photo.)


-TC

On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 11:53 AM, Ravishankar  wrote:

> Hi Tinu, Bala and team
>
> Very well written press release. Especially, I would like to appreciate
> Tinu's stellar role in media relations for Wikimedia projects in India :)
>
> Ravi
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 11:03 AM, CherianTinu Abraham <
> tinucher...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The article is on national editions of The Hindu newspaper and back cover
>> page on many editions.
>> *
>> *
>> *The Hindu : "Contest to add files to Tamil Wikipedia gathers steam"*
>>
>> http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/article2719118.ece?textsize=small&test=2
>>
>>
>> *The Tamil Wikimedia community has organised an international contest to
>> get more photos, videos and audios related to Tamil, Tamilians and Tamil
>> culture to the Tamil Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons.*
>> *
>> *
>> *The aim of the contest (themed “Eluthu mattum arivanru” or “Knowledge
>> beyond text”) is “to increase the quality media content related to Tamil
>> and Tamilians in Wikimedia projects, to attract non-text contributors such
>> as photographers, graphic artists, animators, mapmakers and videographers
>> to Tamil Wiki projects and to create a model precedent for cooperation with
>> Wikimedia Foundation [WMF] in organising projects,” according to Bala
>> Jeyaraman, Wikipedia volunteer and lead co-ordinator for the contest.*
>> *
>> *
>> *People may send photos of places where Tamils reside, Tamil people
>> themselves, studies, heritage symbols, institutions, species (plants and
>> animals) and Diaspora; temples, places of worship and buildings. They can
>> send educational resources such as files used to teach in Tamil. Also
>> invited are maps, graphs, illustrations, diagrams, charts, audio and video
>> files that contain explanations in Tamil, pronunciation files for Tamil
>> words and phrases, audio recordings of literary works; audio and video
>> recordings of Tamil cultural practices, arts, dances or sports.*
>> *
>> *
>> *Foreign contribution*
>> *
>> *
>> *Contributions were coming in from Sri Lanka, Malaysia, Norway, America,
>> Canada, Germany and India, Mr. Jeyaraman said.*
>> *
>> *
>> *Kalaiarasy Kugarajh, who lives in Norway, is one of five persons
>> co-ordinating the project. She said she was delighted to know that a Tamil
>> Wikipedia existed. Using an encyclopaedia online was convenient and, being
>> of Tamil origin, she found getting information in Tamil very useful.*
>> *
>> *
>> *She initially began contributing to the Tamil Wikipedia and then added
>> to Tamil Wiktionary and other projects. She thought that contributing to
>> Tamil content online could help Tamil people with limited knowledge of
>> English or other languages. “Especially, when we live in a foreign country,
>> we lack the printed version of books, and dictionaries, encyclopaedias in
>> Tamil. To people who want to refer to something in Tamil or who want the
>> Tamil meaning for something, or want some old Tamil writings, the Tamil
>> Wikipedia and the sister projects are much helpful. The Tamil Diaspora can
>> gain a lot from Tamil Wiki projects,” she said. Besides, storing
>> information online was necessary and efficient.*
>> *
>> *
>> *Categorisation*
>> *
>> *
>> *“We are categorising the uploads and checking for any copyright
>> violations. We have already started to make use of the suitable uploads in
>> Wiki projects continuously too. Finally, we will evaluate the uploads to
>> select the winners.” The contest, while increasing the media files on
>> Tamil, would increase awareness among people of the Tamil Wiki as a source
>> of information and get contributions from them to Tamil Wiki projects in
>> future.*
>> *
>> *
>> *Chennai student Surya Prakash S, who suggested the theme name of the
>> contest, has uploaded more than 120 images taken on his campus (Anna
>> University), photos of film stars and Chennai monuments.*
>> *
>> *
>> *He said: “I just capture images using my cell phone and camera for this
>> contest. I haven't chosen any subject at all. I just captured images that
>> are useful for knowledge such as orchids and ‘bonsai' trees in the
>> “Semmozhi Poonga” [botanical gardens] and some rare herbs from my native
>> [home].”*
>> *
>> *
>> *He was adding files as he “knows well the status of Tamil content in
>> Internet.” The Tamil Nadu government should support such initiatives in its
>> academic institutions to increase the student community's activity in the
>> free, collaborative encyclopaedia-building 

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press]: The Hindu : "Contest to add files to Tamil Wikipedia gathers steam"

[Shrinivasan T]

what does the important note mean?
does the hindu say not to reproduce?

shall I forward this mail to other mailing lists ?

or should not?
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-chn] mediawiki-uploader

[Ravishankar]

Excellent effort, Shrinivasan.

Please let us know how and where we can find more people like you ;)

Ravi

On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 6:40 PM, Shrinivasan T wrote:

> Friends.
>
> Tamil Wikipedia announced a Media Contest to increase the commons
> media files like photos, audio and video in the wikipedia world.
> see the announcement here.
> http://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contest/en
>
> To upload the photos there are two ways available so far.
>
> 1. The web based upload wizard
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:UploadWizard
>
> 2. Java based upload tool - Commonist
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Tools/Commonist
>
> We have to provide a detailed filename and description to the images
> for uploading.
>
> When we have a bunch of photos to upload, we have to select them,
> crop, or edit them before uploading.
>
> Found that that "GThumb Image Viewer" can show the files, edit the
> files and add IPTC tags to the images.
>
> We can view,edit,delete,rotate,crop and add the required Description
> and Title to the images
> for uploading to wikimedia commons.
>
> How to upload the files?
> There are two tools already.
> But, I wanted to plugin to any image viewer to upload to wikimedia
> commons directly.
> No image viewer has that plugin.
>
> DigiKam has it, but due to some issues, the mediawiki plugin is not
> released.
>
> So, I started to write my own script for uploading all the files in a
> folder to upload to mediawiki.
>
> Here is it.
> http://code.google.com/p/mediawiki-uploader/
>
> Usage details are available in INSTALL and README files.
>
> Thanks for the wikipedia users Surya and Sodabottle for their valuable
> suggestions.
>
> Please report if there are any issues.
>
> Provide your suggestions for improving too.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press]: The Hindu : "Contest to add files to Tamil Wikipedia gathers steam"

[Ravishankar]

Hi Tinu, Bala and team

Very well written press release. Especially, I would like to appreciate
Tinu's stellar role in media relations for Wikimedia projects in India :)

Ravi

On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 11:03 AM, CherianTinu Abraham  wrote:

> The article is on national editions of The Hindu newspaper and back cover
> page on many editions.
> *
> *
> *The Hindu : "Contest to add files to Tamil Wikipedia gathers steam"*
>
> http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/article2719118.ece?textsize=small&test=2
>
>
> *The Tamil Wikimedia community has organised an international contest to
> get more photos, videos and audios related to Tamil, Tamilians and Tamil
> culture to the Tamil Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons.*
> *
> *
> *The aim of the contest (themed “Eluthu mattum arivanru” or “Knowledge
> beyond text”) is “to increase the quality media content related to Tamil
> and Tamilians in Wikimedia projects, to attract non-text contributors such
> as photographers, graphic artists, animators, mapmakers and videographers
> to Tamil Wiki projects and to create a model precedent for cooperation with
> Wikimedia Foundation [WMF] in organising projects,” according to Bala
> Jeyaraman, Wikipedia volunteer and lead co-ordinator for the contest.*
> *
> *
> *People may send photos of places where Tamils reside, Tamil people
> themselves, studies, heritage symbols, institutions, species (plants and
> animals) and Diaspora; temples, places of worship and buildings. They can
> send educational resources such as files used to teach in Tamil. Also
> invited are maps, graphs, illustrations, diagrams, charts, audio and video
> files that contain explanations in Tamil, pronunciation files for Tamil
> words and phrases, audio recordings of literary works; audio and video
> recordings of Tamil cultural practices, arts, dances or sports.*
> *
> *
> *Foreign contribution*
> *
> *
> *Contributions were coming in from Sri Lanka, Malaysia, Norway, America,
> Canada, Germany and India, Mr. Jeyaraman said.*
> *
> *
> *Kalaiarasy Kugarajh, who lives in Norway, is one of five persons
> co-ordinating the project. She said she was delighted to know that a Tamil
> Wikipedia existed. Using an encyclopaedia online was convenient and, being
> of Tamil origin, she found getting information in Tamil very useful.*
> *
> *
> *She initially began contributing to the Tamil Wikipedia and then added
> to Tamil Wiktionary and other projects. She thought that contributing to
> Tamil content online could help Tamil people with limited knowledge of
> English or other languages. “Especially, when we live in a foreign country,
> we lack the printed version of books, and dictionaries, encyclopaedias in
> Tamil. To people who want to refer to something in Tamil or who want the
> Tamil meaning for something, or want some old Tamil writings, the Tamil
> Wikipedia and the sister projects are much helpful. The Tamil Diaspora can
> gain a lot from Tamil Wiki projects,” she said. Besides, storing
> information online was necessary and efficient.*
> *
> *
> *Categorisation*
> *
> *
> *“We are categorising the uploads and checking for any copyright
> violations. We have already started to make use of the suitable uploads in
> Wiki projects continuously too. Finally, we will evaluate the uploads to
> select the winners.” The contest, while increasing the media files on
> Tamil, would increase awareness among people of the Tamil Wiki as a source
> of information and get contributions from them to Tamil Wiki projects in
> future.*
> *
> *
> *Chennai student Surya Prakash S, who suggested the theme name of the
> contest, has uploaded more than 120 images taken on his campus (Anna
> University), photos of film stars and Chennai monuments.*
> *
> *
> *He said: “I just capture images using my cell phone and camera for this
> contest. I haven't chosen any subject at all. I just captured images that
> are useful for knowledge such as orchids and ‘bonsai' trees in the
> “Semmozhi Poonga” [botanical gardens] and some rare herbs from my native
> [home].”*
> *
> *
> *He was adding files as he “knows well the status of Tamil content in
> Internet.” The Tamil Nadu government should support such initiatives in its
> academic institutions to increase the student community's activity in the
> free, collaborative encyclopaedia-building project, he said.*
> *
> *
> *Prize money*
> *
> *
> *The Tamil Wikipedia Community and the WMF have sponsored a prize money
> of $850 (with nine prizes) for winners. (The first, second and third prizes
> are $200, $100 and $50. Three prizes of $100 each are for those uploading
> the maximum number of quality entries.*
> *
> *
> *A special prize of $150 is for media files on traditional Tamil arts and
> crafts.*
> *
> *
> *Winners would be announced on March 15, 2012 and they would get
> certificates with their entries displayed on the front pages of Tamil Wiki
> projects, said the invitation to contributors.*
> *
> *
> *The contest (http://ta.wikiped

[Wikimediaindia-l] [Press]: The Hindu : "Contest to add files to Tamil Wikipedia gathers steam"

[CherianTinu Abraham]

The article is on national editions of The Hindu newspaper and back cover
page on many editions.
*
*
*The Hindu : "Contest to add files to Tamil Wikipedia gathers steam"*
http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/article2719118.ece?textsize=small&test=2


*The Tamil Wikimedia community has organised an international contest to
get more photos, videos and audios related to Tamil, Tamilians and Tamil
culture to the Tamil Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons.*
*
*
*The aim of the contest (themed “Eluthu mattum arivanru” or “Knowledge
beyond text”) is “to increase the quality media content related to Tamil
and Tamilians in Wikimedia projects, to attract non-text contributors such
as photographers, graphic artists, animators, mapmakers and videographers
to Tamil Wiki projects and to create a model precedent for cooperation with
Wikimedia Foundation [WMF] in organising projects,” according to Bala
Jeyaraman, Wikipedia volunteer and lead co-ordinator for the contest.*
*
*
*People may send photos of places where Tamils reside, Tamil people
themselves, studies, heritage symbols, institutions, species (plants and
animals) and Diaspora; temples, places of worship and buildings. They can
send educational resources such as files used to teach in Tamil. Also
invited are maps, graphs, illustrations, diagrams, charts, audio and video
files that contain explanations in Tamil, pronunciation files for Tamil
words and phrases, audio recordings of literary works; audio and video
recordings of Tamil cultural practices, arts, dances or sports.*
*
*
*Foreign contribution*
*
*
*Contributions were coming in from Sri Lanka, Malaysia, Norway, America,
Canada, Germany and India, Mr. Jeyaraman said.*
*
*
*Kalaiarasy Kugarajh, who lives in Norway, is one of five persons
co-ordinating the project. She said she was delighted to know that a Tamil
Wikipedia existed. Using an encyclopaedia online was convenient and, being
of Tamil origin, she found getting information in Tamil very useful.*
*
*
*She initially began contributing to the Tamil Wikipedia and then added to
Tamil Wiktionary and other projects. She thought that contributing to Tamil
content online could help Tamil people with limited knowledge of English or
other languages. “Especially, when we live in a foreign country, we lack
the printed version of books, and dictionaries, encyclopaedias in Tamil. To
people who want to refer to something in Tamil or who want the Tamil
meaning for something, or want some old Tamil writings, the Tamil Wikipedia
and the sister projects are much helpful. The Tamil Diaspora can gain a lot
from Tamil Wiki projects,” she said. Besides, storing information online
was necessary and efficient.*
*
*
*Categorisation*
*
*
*“We are categorising the uploads and checking for any copyright
violations. We have already started to make use of the suitable uploads in
Wiki projects continuously too. Finally, we will evaluate the uploads to
select the winners.” The contest, while increasing the media files on
Tamil, would increase awareness among people of the Tamil Wiki as a source
of information and get contributions from them to Tamil Wiki projects in
future.*
*
*
*Chennai student Surya Prakash S, who suggested the theme name of the
contest, has uploaded more than 120 images taken on his campus (Anna
University), photos of film stars and Chennai monuments.*
*
*
*He said: “I just capture images using my cell phone and camera for this
contest. I haven't chosen any subject at all. I just captured images that
are useful for knowledge such as orchids and ‘bonsai' trees in the
“Semmozhi Poonga” [botanical gardens] and some rare herbs from my native
[home].”*
*
*
*He was adding files as he “knows well the status of Tamil content in
Internet.” The Tamil Nadu government should support such initiatives in its
academic institutions to increase the student community's activity in the
free, collaborative encyclopaedia-building project, he said.*
*
*
*Prize money*
*
*
*The Tamil Wikipedia Community and the WMF have sponsored a prize money of
$850 (with nine prizes) for winners. (The first, second and third prizes
are $200, $100 and $50. Three prizes of $100 each are for those uploading
the maximum number of quality entries.*
*
*
*A special prize of $150 is for media files on traditional Tamil arts and
crafts.*
*
*
*Winners would be announced on March 15, 2012 and they would get
certificates with their entries displayed on the front pages of Tamil Wiki
projects, said the invitation to contributors.*
*
*
*The contest (http://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/contest, November 15, 2011 to
February 29, 2012) is open to all and is on Facebook (
http://www.facebook.com/tawmc).*
*
*
*
*
** People may send photos of places where Tamils reside, heritage symbols,
institutions, plants and animals*
** Tamil Diaspora can gain a lot from Tamil Wiki projects'*


Regards
Tinu Cherian
pr...@wikimedia.in
http://wiki.wikimedia.in/In_the_news

Important Note : The publisher ( The Hindu) of the above news art

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Webfonts deployment on Indic Wikiprojects

[Praveen Prakash]

There is lot to say. But i don't want to derail this thread. Pls start
a new thread.

On 16/12/2011, Anivar Aravind  wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 8:49 AM, Praveen Prakash 
> wrote:
>> I haven't seen any communication in any open platform with Malayalam
>> Community members about this matter. A few weeks before I had a brief
>> discussion with Santhosh about webfonts. But it was nothing about
>> webfonts'
>> rendering bugs. Infact, popular (and beautiful) Malayalam fonts are open
>> licensed, but there are other rendering bugs.  Issue I raised was about an
>> unnessessory char code change doing by webfonts which I felt a propaganda
>> pushing in favor of his idea about some characters, and which need
>> additional scripts on both client (= additional bandwidth) and server. But
>> Santhosh quit the thread claiming my concerns are my pure imaginations. :)
>> Naturally thread died.
>
> Praveen Do you mean this bug ?
> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=29005
>
> The bug speaks itself .
>
> From a quick reading I felt what you were asking is to use not
> properly forked font projects in webfonts, when santhosh took a stand
> to use fonts them from upstream.
>
> On Normalization of characters,  it is an optional feature, for
> visibility of some chillus  , that can be disabled in user settings if
> needed.
> It perfectly makes sense for me, since dual encoding is an issue in
> Malayalam , and the fix need to be on Unicode . The Webfonts hack is
> just a positive step and optional fix to ensure, people will not be
> missed from accessing knowledge in wikipedia , based on browser
> restrictions.
>
>
> Anivar
>
>
>
>>
>> I know Malayalam Wikimedian 'Vssun' tried to have an open conversation on
>> Gerard's talk page, after Gerard's notice, but didn't see any development.
>> As far as now I know no one, who was sure about webfonts deployment on ml
>> projects.
>>
>> I certainly do not want webfonts in its current form in any of the
>> Malayalam
>> Wikiprojects. But I want to know why Malayalam is excluded from this
>> deployment and I want to know why such a code deployed on many other
>> wikies.
>>
>> I personally don't like Santhosh's enthusiasm to fly his scripts on
>> wikimedia servers, based on his "I am correct, I am correct, I am the only
>> correct" attitude.
>>
>> If webfonts is too bad for your language, I urge you to file a bug for
>> removing it.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 2:19 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> If you want to test something new, either make it opt in, or don't do
>>> it live. Not on Tamil, not on Hindi, not on any Wikipedia for that
>>> matter.
>>>
>>> On 12/14/11, Ravishankar  wrote:
>>> > On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 1:01 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> I dont think its appropriate to be a bit more experimental. You are
>>> >> seeing
>>> >> the scale in absolute sense, we are seeing it in relative sense. Tamil
>>> >> Wikipedia is 7th most-viewed Tamil site.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > +1. Similar stats can be observed for most of the Indic language Wiki
>>> > projects with sizable content as they are the only / major source of
>>> > reference online for the respective languages.
>>> >
>>> > Ravi
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>> --
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Webfonts deployment on Indic Wikiprojects

[Anivar Aravind]

On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 8:49 AM, Praveen Prakash  wrote:
> I haven't seen any communication in any open platform with Malayalam
> Community members about this matter. A few weeks before I had a brief
> discussion with Santhosh about webfonts. But it was nothing about webfonts'
> rendering bugs. Infact, popular (and beautiful) Malayalam fonts are open
> licensed, but there are other rendering bugs.  Issue I raised was about an
> unnessessory char code change doing by webfonts which I felt a propaganda
> pushing in favor of his idea about some characters, and which need
> additional scripts on both client (= additional bandwidth) and server. But
> Santhosh quit the thread claiming my concerns are my pure imaginations. :)
> Naturally thread died.

Praveen Do you mean this bug ?
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=29005

The bug speaks itself .

From a quick reading I felt what you were asking is to use not
properly forked font projects in webfonts, when santhosh took a stand
to use fonts them from upstream.

On Normalization of characters,  it is an optional feature, for
visibility of some chillus  , that can be disabled in user settings if
needed.
It perfectly makes sense for me, since dual encoding is an issue in
Malayalam , and the fix need to be on Unicode . The Webfonts hack is
just a positive step and optional fix to ensure, people will not be
missed from accessing knowledge in wikipedia , based on browser
restrictions.


Anivar



>
> I know Malayalam Wikimedian 'Vssun' tried to have an open conversation on
> Gerard's talk page, after Gerard's notice, but didn't see any development.
> As far as now I know no one, who was sure about webfonts deployment on ml
> projects.
>
> I certainly do not want webfonts in its current form in any of the Malayalam
> Wikiprojects. But I want to know why Malayalam is excluded from this
> deployment and I want to know why such a code deployed on many other wikies.
>
> I personally don't like Santhosh's enthusiasm to fly his scripts on
> wikimedia servers, based on his "I am correct, I am correct, I am the only
> correct" attitude.
>
> If webfonts is too bad for your language, I urge you to file a bug for
> removing it.
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 2:19 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan
>  wrote:
>>
>> If you want to test something new, either make it opt in, or don't do
>> it live. Not on Tamil, not on Hindi, not on any Wikipedia for that
>> matter.
>>
>> On 12/14/11, Ravishankar  wrote:
>> > On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 1:01 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> I dont think its appropriate to be a bit more experimental. You are
>> >> seeing
>> >> the scale in absolute sense, we are seeing it in relative sense. Tamil
>> >> Wikipedia is 7th most-viewed Tamil site.
>> >
>> >
>> > +1. Similar stats can be observed for most of the Indic language Wiki
>> > projects with sizable content as they are the only / major source of
>> > reference online for the respective languages.
>> >
>> > Ravi
>> >
>>
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Srikanth Ramakrishnan.
>> Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on December 10th.
>> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Webfonts deployment on Indic Wikiprojects

[Praveen Prakash]

I haven't seen any communication in any open platform with Malayalam
Community members about this matter. A few weeks before I had a brief
discussion with Santhosh about webfonts. But it was nothing about webfonts'
rendering bugs. Infact, popular (and beautiful) Malayalam fonts are open
licensed, but there are other rendering bugs.  Issue I raised was about an
unnessessory char code change doing by webfonts which I felt a propaganda
pushing in favor of his idea about some characters, and which need
additional scripts on both client (= additional bandwidth) and server. But
Santhosh quit the thread claiming my concerns are my pure imaginations. :)
Naturally thread died.

I know Malayalam Wikimedian 'Vssun' tried to have an open conversation on
Gerard's talk page, after Gerard's notice, but didn't see any development.
As far as now I know no one, who was sure about webfonts deployment on ml
projects.

I certainly do not want webfonts in its current form in any of the
Malayalam Wikiprojects. But I want to know why Malayalam is excluded from
this deployment and I want to know why such a code deployed on many other
wikies.

I personally don't like Santhosh's enthusiasm to fly his scripts on
wikimedia servers, based on his "I am correct, I am correct, I am the only
correct" attitude.

If webfonts is too bad for your language, I urge you to file a bug for
removing it.

On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 2:19 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan <
parakara.gh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> If you want to test something new, either make it opt in, or don't do
> it live. Not on Tamil, not on Hindi, not on any Wikipedia for that
> matter.
>
> On 12/14/11, Ravishankar  wrote:
> > On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 1:01 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I dont think its appropriate to be a bit more experimental. You are
> seeing
> >> the scale in absolute sense, we are seeing it in relative sense. Tamil
> >> Wikipedia is 7th most-viewed Tamil site.
> >
> >
> > +1. Similar stats can be observed for most of the Indic language Wiki
> > projects with sizable content as they are the only / major source of
> > reference online for the respective languages.
> >
> > Ravi
> >
>
>
> --
> Regards,
> Srikanth Ramakrishnan.
> Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on December 10th.
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Insights from GLAMcamp Amsterdam

[Ashwin Baindur]

Thanks Srikanth the link you gave is the correct one. Though anybody
reading my link will find the same in the very first line of text.  :)

Warm regards,

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On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 12:31 AM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan <
parakara.gh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks a ton Noopur. Now atleast I'll have something to show when I
> invite the photography club for the next meetup.
> Ashwin, I believe, it's http://bookshelf.Wikimedia.org I read it at
> the back of the Welcome to Wikipedia Editors Guide.
>
> On 12/15/11, Noopur  wrote:
> > For Arnav and others:
> > I made a little something on Commons and photography (have avoided any
> wiki
> > speak):
> >
> > http://prezi.com/qjfh338fxhum/the-wikiguide-for-photographers/
> >
> > It's on prezi so you can edit and then put it in a ppt to share offline
> as
> > well!
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 9:17 PM, Ashwin Baindur
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Noopur,
> >>
> >> A good place to add them is
> >>
> >> http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bookshelf_Project
> >>
> >>
> >> Warm regards,
> >>
> >> Ashwin Baindur
> >> --
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Noopur  wrote:
> >>
> >>> Dear Arnav,
> >>> This is awesome! I was speaking to Hisham about compiling a repository
> of
> >>> presentations and Simple English guides, keeping them in PDF versions
> so
> >>> that people can use them whenever. I have some presentations on GLAM
> and
> >>> commons, if you want I can send them over and you don't have to go
> >>> through
> >>> the trouble of making them again.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Arnav Sonara
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
>  Yeah, I mean since most of the photographers there would not be
>  knowing what commons is, I ll first give them presentation about
>  commons and explain them public domain licensing in detail.
> 
>  --
>  Thanks
>  Arnav (ricku).
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>  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rangilo_Gujarati>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Insights from GLAMcamp Amsterdam

[Noopur]

Hey,

This presentation is not for audio/video. This came up since someone needed
a presentation for Photographers. Why I have used Commons interchangeably
is because I assume Arnav is going to speak to them about Licensing
(Creative Commons) as well as Wikimedia Commons. That is why I kept two
slides for both. I will change them to two clear slides in that case. For,
NPOV and uploading policies, I was refering to this:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Project_scope
Will change the archive bit too (thanks for the heads up!)
And, Featured images should be an excellent end :) (thanks again, you shall
be given a kitten soon!)
Warmly
Noopur


On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 1:46 AM, Lodewijk wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Nice work! I am not very at home in Prezi, so some suggestions by email:
>
> * Maybe it is better to call Wikimedia a "movement" to avoid confusion
> when they encounter Wikimedia India
> * In the file formats you seem to miss .OGG (sound/video)
> * It is probably better to never say "Commons" like we do, but always
> "Wikimedia Commons". Otherwise people get confused with Creative Commons.
> * Is NPOV really relevant in Wikimedia Commons?
> * Suggesting to dig up archives is dangerous - we have some bad
> experiences in Israel with that. The danger is that they dig up photos
> taken by other people of themselves. Maybe reword to "your old photographs"
> and focus on authorship rather than (physical) ownership?
> * Maybe add something about Featured images: if they submit really good
> images, they might end up getting that status?
>
> Anyway, hope it is useful,
>
> Lodewijk
>
> No dia 15 de Dezembro de 2011 19:05, Noopur escreveu:
>
> For Arnav and others:
>> I made a little something on Commons and photography (have avoided any
>> wiki speak):
>>
>> http://prezi.com/qjfh338fxhum/the-wikiguide-for-photographers/
>>
>> It's on prezi so you can edit and then put it in a ppt to share offline
>> as well!
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 9:17 PM, Ashwin Baindur > > wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Noopur,
>>>
>>> A good place to add them is
>>>
>>> http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bookshelf_Project
>>>
>>>
>>> Warm regards,
>>>
>>> Ashwin Baindur
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Noopur  wrote:
>>>
 Dear Arnav,
 This is awesome! I was speaking to Hisham about compiling a repository
 of presentations and Simple English guides, keeping them in PDF versions so
 that people can use them whenever. I have some presentations on GLAM and
 commons, if you want I can send them over and you don't have to go through
 the trouble of making them again.


 On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Arnav Sonara 
 wrote:

> Yeah, I mean since most of the photographers there would not be
> knowing what commons is, I ll first give them presentation about
> commons and explain them public domain licensing in detail.
>
> --
> Thanks
> Arnav (ricku).
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Insights from GLAMcamp Amsterdam

[Lodewijk]

Hi,

Nice work! I am not very at home in Prezi, so some suggestions by email:

* Maybe it is better to call Wikimedia a "movement" to avoid confusion when
they encounter Wikimedia India
* In the file formats you seem to miss .OGG (sound/video)
* It is probably better to never say "Commons" like we do, but always
"Wikimedia Commons". Otherwise people get confused with Creative Commons.
* Is NPOV really relevant in Wikimedia Commons?
* Suggesting to dig up archives is dangerous - we have some bad experiences
in Israel with that. The danger is that they dig up photos taken by other
people of themselves. Maybe reword to "your old photographs" and focus on
authorship rather than (physical) ownership?
* Maybe add something about Featured images: if they submit really good
images, they might end up getting that status?

Anyway, hope it is useful,

Lodewijk

No dia 15 de Dezembro de 2011 19:05, Noopur escreveu:

> For Arnav and others:
> I made a little something on Commons and photography (have avoided any
> wiki speak):
>
> http://prezi.com/qjfh338fxhum/the-wikiguide-for-photographers/
>
> It's on prezi so you can edit and then put it in a ppt to share offline as
> well!
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 9:17 PM, Ashwin Baindur 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Noopur,
>>
>> A good place to add them is
>>
>> http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bookshelf_Project
>>
>>
>> Warm regards,
>>
>> Ashwin Baindur
>> --
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Noopur  wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Arnav,
>>> This is awesome! I was speaking to Hisham about compiling a repository
>>> of presentations and Simple English guides, keeping them in PDF versions so
>>> that people can use them whenever. I have some presentations on GLAM and
>>> commons, if you want I can send them over and you don't have to go through
>>> the trouble of making them again.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Arnav Sonara wrote:
>>>
 Yeah, I mean since most of the photographers there would not be
 knowing what commons is, I ll first give them presentation about
 commons and explain them public domain licensing in detail.

 --
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 Arnav (ricku).
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-chn] mediawiki-uploader

[Srikanth Ramakrishnan]

Prad, thanks for sharing that with us. Let's hope this piece of code
results in tons of freely licenced content pouring into the Commons.

On 12/15/11, Pradeep Mohandas  wrote:
> hi Shrinivasan,
>
> Sumana has forwarded this email to the cultural/GLAM list as well where
> there was need felt on batch uploads and people there might also benefit
> from what you've coded.
>
> Thank you.
>
> warm regards,
> Pradeep
> User:Prad2609
>
> On 15 December 2011 20:25, Srikanth Ramakrishnan
> wrote:
>
>> Hey Shrinivasan, this is brilliant. Bala had mentioned last week at
>> our Coimbatore meetup that this fellow from ILUGC had uploaded 10 high
>> definition shots before being dissatisfied with the upload tool and
>> then went off to code his own. Congrats on your heroic efforts. Now, I
>> can use this to tell photography friends who haven't contributed to
>> the contest yet and say It's easier and that they have no excuse to
>> not upload. Brilliant! Kudos on your amazing work.
>>
>> On 12/15/11, Srikanth Lakshmanan  wrote:
>> > Hello Shrini,
>> >
>> > We never imagined someone developing tool/script for participating in
>> > the
>> > contest. Good work #WIN :)
>> >
>> > --
>> > Regards
>> > Srikanth.L
>> >
>>
>>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Insights from GLAMcamp Amsterdam

[Srikanth Ramakrishnan]

Thanks a ton Noopur. Now atleast I'll have something to show when I
invite the photography club for the next meetup.
Ashwin, I believe, it's http://bookshelf.Wikimedia.org I read it at
the back of the Welcome to Wikipedia Editors Guide.

On 12/15/11, Noopur  wrote:
> For Arnav and others:
> I made a little something on Commons and photography (have avoided any wiki
> speak):
>
> http://prezi.com/qjfh338fxhum/the-wikiguide-for-photographers/
>
> It's on prezi so you can edit and then put it in a ppt to share offline as
> well!
>
> On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 9:17 PM, Ashwin Baindur
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Noopur,
>>
>> A good place to add them is
>>
>> http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bookshelf_Project
>>
>>
>> Warm regards,
>>
>> Ashwin Baindur
>> --
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Noopur  wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Arnav,
>>> This is awesome! I was speaking to Hisham about compiling a repository of
>>> presentations and Simple English guides, keeping them in PDF versions so
>>> that people can use them whenever. I have some presentations on GLAM and
>>> commons, if you want I can send them over and you don't have to go
>>> through
>>> the trouble of making them again.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Arnav Sonara
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Yeah, I mean since most of the photographers there would not be
 knowing what commons is, I ll first give them presentation about
 commons and explain them public domain licensing in detail.

 --
 Thanks
 Arnav (ricku).
 (User:Rangilo_Gujarati) <
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rangilo_Gujarati>

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [WMIN-Members] Wikimedia India chapter IRC meetup

[Debanjan Bandyopadhyay]

Hey,

I'll try but wish it was after 10:30.

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> Hi,
> I don't think I will be able to attend any meeting this week. We will
> be busy in the event.
>
> Regards
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>
> On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 9:53 PM, Naveen Francis 
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> >
> > We will have our IRC meetup on Dec 17, 2011, from 9:00 pm to 10:00 pm
> >
> > http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Internet_Relay_Chats/Dec_17,2011
> >
> > We from Wikimedia India Chapter invites you all to take part in the IRC
> > meetup.
> >
> >
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Insights from GLAMcamp Amsterdam

[Noopur]

For Arnav and others:
I made a little something on Commons and photography (have avoided any wiki
speak):

http://prezi.com/qjfh338fxhum/the-wikiguide-for-photographers/

It's on prezi so you can edit and then put it in a ppt to share offline as
well!

On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 9:17 PM, Ashwin Baindur wrote:

> Hi Noopur,
>
> A good place to add them is
>
> http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bookshelf_Project
>
>
> Warm regards,
>
> Ashwin Baindur
> --
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Noopur  wrote:
>
>> Dear Arnav,
>> This is awesome! I was speaking to Hisham about compiling a repository of
>> presentations and Simple English guides, keeping them in PDF versions so
>> that people can use them whenever. I have some presentations on GLAM and
>> commons, if you want I can send them over and you don't have to go through
>> the trouble of making them again.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Arnav Sonara wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, I mean since most of the photographers there would not be
>>> knowing what commons is, I ll first give them presentation about
>>> commons and explain them public domain licensing in detail.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Thanks
>>> Arnav (ricku).
>>> (User:Rangilo_Gujarati) <
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rangilo_Gujarati>
>>>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Narayam updates

[Santhosh Thottingal]

On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 8:38 PM, Shiju Alex  wrote:
> But these type of changes (like the change in shortcut key) which affect the
> typing habit of users needs to be communicated to commuity (here Indic
> wikimedians), at least in this list.

No change in typing habit, it was just broken and not working in those
browsers in OSX. We just made it working. We did not change any
existing working key to an alternate key.

On the other hand Keyboard layout change requests often comes through
bugzilla from community and get reviewed by community. So its upto the
community to update the documentation in local language.

Anyway any changes that are not "fixes" will be communicated.

Having said that there is a small user interface update coming
tentatively next week's deployment - the menu will not be visible by
moving the mouse over the links of webfonts and Narayam. Menu will be
visible when user click on the links.
You can see this change in translatewiki.net.

There is also another update  for Narayam, to make the menu position
correct in LTR and RTL and to prevent it crossing screen width. It is
a bug fix.

These changes are applicable for both Narayam and Webfonts.

Thanks
Santhosh


Thanks
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Insights from GLAMcamp Amsterdam

[Ashwin Baindur]

Hi Noopur,

A good place to add them is

http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bookshelf_Project

Warm regards,

Ashwin Baindur
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On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Noopur  wrote:

> Dear Arnav,
> This is awesome! I was speaking to Hisham about compiling a repository of
> presentations and Simple English guides, keeping them in PDF versions so
> that people can use them whenever. I have some presentations on GLAM and
> commons, if you want I can send them over and you don't have to go through
> the trouble of making them again.
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Arnav Sonara wrote:
>
>> Yeah, I mean since most of the photographers there would not be
>> knowing what commons is, I ll first give them presentation about
>> commons and explain them public domain licensing in detail.
>>
>> --
>> Thanks
>> Arnav (ricku).
>> (User:Rangilo_Gujarati) <
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rangilo_Gujarati>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-chn] mediawiki-uploader

[Pradeep Mohandas]

hi Shrinivasan,

Sumana has forwarded this email to the cultural/GLAM list as well where
there was need felt on batch uploads and people there might also benefit
from what you've coded.

Thank you.

warm regards,
Pradeep
User:Prad2609

On 15 December 2011 20:25, Srikanth Ramakrishnan
wrote:

> Hey Shrinivasan, this is brilliant. Bala had mentioned last week at
> our Coimbatore meetup that this fellow from ILUGC had uploaded 10 high
> definition shots before being dissatisfied with the upload tool and
> then went off to code his own. Congrats on your heroic efforts. Now, I
> can use this to tell photography friends who haven't contributed to
> the contest yet and say It's easier and that they have no excuse to
> not upload. Brilliant! Kudos on your amazing work.
>
> On 12/15/11, Srikanth Lakshmanan  wrote:
> > Hello Shrini,
> >
> > We never imagined someone developing tool/script for participating in the
> > contest. Good work #WIN :)
> >
> > --
> > Regards
> > Srikanth.L
> >
>
>
> --
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Narayam updates

[Shiju Alex]

>
> I am not sure whether it is really required to post these changes
> every week here, because not every one is interested in reading the
> code changes. I hope the code review page helps to find out all the
> changes for an extension/component
>

That is true. Community is definitely NOT interested to know the technical
details of all the updates.

But these type of changes (like the change in shortcut key) which affect
the typing habit of users needs to be communicated to commuity (here Indic
wikimedians), at least in this list.

How you know


On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Santhosh Thottingal <
santhosh.thottin...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 1:34 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan 
> wrote:
> > Shortcut key on Mac :- Refer bug[1] for details, in summary the shortcut
> key
> > is now dynamic based on browser / OS combination so that the shortcut
> works.
> > Control+G is new shortcut on Mac largely. This was done during Hackathon.
> > //Surprise surprise, more Indic users on mac :)
>
> Small correction, this fix was not done during hackathon, but before
> that. And for Opera in OSX, shortcut is control+command+m.
>
> > There are more bugs reported by others and the software keeps changing,
> so
> > If you want to follow Narayam in close detail, subscribe to the feed[3].
> >
> > i18n team,
> > Some of us know, you push i18n patches every Monday. Can you also give a
> > feed for recent changes in patch *every week*, so we could see if
> something
> > relevant to us changed in the patch and test so that we may not miss any
> > regression caused and be quick to report issues. I know wikitech wiki has
> > the logs somewhere on deployment(forgot now), but a plain text feed will
> > help and save much time for many folks.
>
>
> We post the i18n deployment notes in Mediaiwiki-i18n list , one or two
> days before deployment.
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-i18n
>
> Gerard blogs about the deployment , see
> http://blog.wikimedia.org/2011/12/12/going-live-december-12-2011/ and
> he plans to do this blog post for every deployment.
>
> If anybody is interested particularly in some extension, they can
> follow all the commits to that path in subversion For eg:
>
> https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Code/MediaWiki&path=%2Ftrunk%2Fextensions%2FWebFonts
> gives all the code changes happened in webfonts.
>
> I am not sure whether it is really required to post these changes
> every week here, because not every one is interested in reading the
> code changes. I hope the code review page helps to find out all the
> changes for an extension/component
>
> Another way to find out planned revisions for i18ndeploy is looking at
> this tag:
> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/tag/i18ndeploy
>
> > To those communities which don't have any input method solution :-
> > Please invest some time, the returns are really great. Juniad / i18n team
> > will help you get Narayam.
>
> Happy to help.
>
> -Santhosh
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Report on WikiKovai meet 1.

[Srikanth Ramakrishnan]

Thanks for posting this here Bala. :-)
Maybe we should print a few flyers with the Contest details, maybe
even a QR Code about the contest and hand it over to whoever we see in
public with a camera. ;-P

On 12/15/11, Bala Jeyaraman  wrote:
> Per Srikanth's request: here is the report from Prasanna Venkatesh one of
> the attendees of the meetup as posted on the event's facebook page (
> http://www.facebook.com/events/192614487481512/)
> Here i share what happened in Wikipedia meet up held at coimbatore:
>
> We arrived there at coimbatore by early morning and joined with new friends
> at coimbatore, Karthikeyan
> Savithriwho received us
> there with warm welcome and we entered into KGiSL campus
> around 11 am and the event started only after we arrived there.
>
> 1. Srikanth Ramakrishnan
> who was the first
> speaker to start with meet up, shared his
> experience with us and to tell about him, he is editing wikipedia articles
> right from the age of 13 (8th standard) and now he has got around 10,000
> articles being edited in the span of 6.5 years.
>
> 2. Arrived Mr. Bala, Admin and an active wikipedian especially handling
> Tamil section of wikipedia and he was an programmer in an MNC and now he is
> self-employed. Mr. Bala started with the basics of wikipedia and covered
> the following:
> i. What is wikipedia?
> ii. Wikipeida - by the people, of the people and for the people.
> iii. Advantage of wikipedia being let open for public editing.
> iv. Demo on how to become a user, contributor to wikipedia.
> v. General and basic rules for starting and writing an article with proper
> reference.
> vi. Tamizh wiki oodaga(media) poati - any one can participate and submit
> your own photography regarding Tamizh and its culture, people ect. and you
> have the chance to win US. 200$
> vii. Tools like wikimedia (Mediawiki, wiki source, etc.) are discussed.
> viii. Technical part of wikipedia is discussed.
>
> Finally we had a Photo-session and greeted each other and it was good time
> together and we gained knowledge over how to contribute the above things
> and soon after at the evening we created a account for us in wikipedia..
> and now roaming around with camera in hand :p
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan <
> parakara.gh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks a lot Arjuna. I think February will be good as exams won't be
>> there then. Meanwhile, I do hope that the Academy in Jan will help up
>> increase the active community members in Coimbatore for further
>> meetups to happen.
>>
>> On 12/14/11, Arjuna Rao Chavala  wrote:
>> > Srikanth R,
>> >
>> > My previous discussion is about wiki academy for journalism students of
>> > Amrita institution in Coimbatore for Jan 2012. No such event happened in
>> > 2011.
>> >
>> > Getting regular meetups happen is a big challenge even in places like
>> > Bangalore. You can plan for once in two months or so to start with
>> > encourage people to edit, participate in nearby meetups, wiki academies,
>> > encourage membership in chapter to grow the movement on a sustainable
>> basis.
>> >
>> > Cheers
>> > Arjuna Rao Chavala
>> > -
>> > Sent via mobile
>> > On Dec 14, 2011 11:10 PM, "Srikanth Ramakrishnan" <
>> parakara.gh...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Heya, this just struck me. Arjuna mentioned to me that there was an
>> >> Academy held in Coimbatore back in April 2011. Maybe, we could get
>> >> guys from there to attend the next meetup, provided some experienced
>> >> community member attends it.
>> >>
>> >> On 12/13/11, Srikanth Ramakrishnan  wrote:
>> >> > Thanks for the positive response guys. I'll try and arrange a meetup
>> >> > in the second week of January. Since the only two Wikipedians are out
>> >> > of town and it also will be Wikipedia Day, presence of a member of
>> >> > chapter or foundation would be welcome.
>> >> >
>> >> > On 12/13/11, ansuman  wrote:
>> >> >> Very nice report. I hope to see more active wikipedians. And hope
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> community grows. You rock, Keep it up.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Regards
>> >> >> ansu
>> >> >> *
>> >> >> ଓଡ଼ିଆ ଉଇକିପିଡ଼ିଆ
>> >> >> *
>> >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ansumang
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan <
>> >> >> rsrikant...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> Heya all,
>> >> >>> This should've come in elaier but didn't as my lab was shut.
>> >> >>> To Pradeep, who's been asking for two days,
>> >> >>> And Noopur, the only other Wikipedian who asked about this meet.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Our meetup was held at the KG Inst. of Tech [KITE] who offered us
>> >> >>> an
>> >> >>> A/C presentation hall for this event.
>> >> >>> KITE, is a part of KG Information Systems Ltd, one of the city's
>> most
>> >> >>> respected IT establishments.
>> >> >>> The meetup space was offered by Mr. Ashok Bkathavatsalam himself,
>> the
>> >> >>> MD of KGISL,

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-chn] mediawiki-uploader

[Srikanth Ramakrishnan]

Hey Shrinivasan, this is brilliant. Bala had mentioned last week at
our Coimbatore meetup that this fellow from ILUGC had uploaded 10 high
definition shots before being dissatisfied with the upload tool and
then went off to code his own. Congrats on your heroic efforts. Now, I
can use this to tell photography friends who haven't contributed to
the contest yet and say It's easier and that they have no excuse to
not upload. Brilliant! Kudos on your amazing work.

On 12/15/11, Srikanth Lakshmanan  wrote:
> Hello Shrini,
>
> We never imagined someone developing tool/script for participating in the
> contest. Good work #WIN :)
>
> --
> Regards
> Srikanth.L
>


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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Report on WikiKovai meet 1.

[Bala Jeyaraman]

Per Srikanth's request: here is the report from Prasanna Venkatesh one of
the attendees of the meetup as posted on the event's facebook page (
http://www.facebook.com/events/192614487481512/)
Here i share what happened in Wikipedia meet up held at coimbatore:

We arrived there at coimbatore by early morning and joined with new friends
at coimbatore, Karthikeyan
Savithriwho received us
there with warm welcome and we entered into KGiSL campus
around 11 am and the event started only after we arrived there.

1. Srikanth Ramakrishnan
who was the first
speaker to start with meet up, shared his
experience with us and to tell about him, he is editing wikipedia articles
right from the age of 13 (8th standard) and now he has got around 10,000
articles being edited in the span of 6.5 years.

2. Arrived Mr. Bala, Admin and an active wikipedian especially handling
Tamil section of wikipedia and he was an programmer in an MNC and now he is
self-employed. Mr. Bala started with the basics of wikipedia and covered
the following:
i. What is wikipedia?
ii. Wikipeida - by the people, of the people and for the people.
iii. Advantage of wikipedia being let open for public editing.
iv. Demo on how to become a user, contributor to wikipedia.
v. General and basic rules for starting and writing an article with proper
reference.
vi. Tamizh wiki oodaga(media) poati - any one can participate and submit
your own photography regarding Tamizh and its culture, people ect. and you
have the chance to win US. 200$
vii. Tools like wikimedia (Mediawiki, wiki source, etc.) are discussed.
viii. Technical part of wikipedia is discussed.

Finally we had a Photo-session and greeted each other and it was good time
together and we gained knowledge over how to contribute the above things
and soon after at the evening we created a account for us in wikipedia..
and now roaming around with camera in hand :p


On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan <
parakara.gh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks a lot Arjuna. I think February will be good as exams won't be
> there then. Meanwhile, I do hope that the Academy in Jan will help up
> increase the active community members in Coimbatore for further
> meetups to happen.
>
> On 12/14/11, Arjuna Rao Chavala  wrote:
> > Srikanth R,
> >
> > My previous discussion is about wiki academy for journalism students of
> > Amrita institution in Coimbatore for Jan 2012. No such event happened in
> > 2011.
> >
> > Getting regular meetups happen is a big challenge even in places like
> > Bangalore. You can plan for once in two months or so to start with
> > encourage people to edit, participate in nearby meetups, wiki academies,
> > encourage membership in chapter to grow the movement on a sustainable
> basis.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Arjuna Rao Chavala
> > -
> > Sent via mobile
> > On Dec 14, 2011 11:10 PM, "Srikanth Ramakrishnan" <
> parakara.gh...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Heya, this just struck me. Arjuna mentioned to me that there was an
> >> Academy held in Coimbatore back in April 2011. Maybe, we could get
> >> guys from there to attend the next meetup, provided some experienced
> >> community member attends it.
> >>
> >> On 12/13/11, Srikanth Ramakrishnan  wrote:
> >> > Thanks for the positive response guys. I'll try and arrange a meetup
> >> > in the second week of January. Since the only two Wikipedians are out
> >> > of town and it also will be Wikipedia Day, presence of a member of
> >> > chapter or foundation would be welcome.
> >> >
> >> > On 12/13/11, ansuman  wrote:
> >> >> Very nice report. I hope to see more active wikipedians. And hope the
> >> >> community grows. You rock, Keep it up.
> >> >>
> >> >> Regards
> >> >> ansu
> >> >> *
> >> >> ଓଡ଼ିଆ ଉଇକିପିଡ଼ିଆ
> >> >> *
> >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ansumang
> >> >>
> >> >> On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan <
> >> >> rsrikant...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> Heya all,
> >> >>> This should've come in elaier but didn't as my lab was shut.
> >> >>> To Pradeep, who's been asking for two days,
> >> >>> And Noopur, the only other Wikipedian who asked about this meet.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Our meetup was held at the KG Inst. of Tech [KITE] who offered us an
> >> >>> A/C presentation hall for this event.
> >> >>> KITE, is a part of KG Information Systems Ltd, one of the city's
> most
> >> >>> respected IT establishments.
> >> >>> The meetup space was offered by Mr. Ashok Bkathavatsalam himself,
> the
> >> >>> MD of KGISL, who in turn was told about this meet by Gautam John and
> >> >>> Venkat Mangudi. Thanks you two.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> The meetup started at 11am.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> We had ~14-15 attendees, out of which 8 or 9 were part of ILUGC
> Pondy
> >> >>> [Indian Linux User Group Puducherry].
> >> >>> One Wikipedian saw the link to the meetup on my signature on an
> online
> >> >>> forum SkyScraperCity and came 

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-chn] mediawiki-uploader

[Srikanth Lakshmanan]

Hello Shrini,

We never imagined someone developing tool/script for participating in the
contest. Good work #WIN :)

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] mediawiki-uploader

[Surya Prakash]

I've translated interface messages which are NECESSARY for the contest.

But, these messages are not useful for now. :)

But, I'll do this ASAP. :)

Thanks Geard for notice it. :)

Actually Shrinivasan didn't mentioned the contest upload wizard. It is
here. (
http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:UploadWizard&campaign=twmc&uselang=ta
)

Most of the messages have been translated. :)

*$U®¥∩*
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On 15 December 2011 05:23, Gerard Meijssen wrote:

> Hoi,
> Help yourself and the contestants by localising the last 150 messages of
> the UploadWizard.
> Thanks,
>   GerardM
>
>
> http://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special:Translate&group=ext-uploadwizard&language=ta
>
> On 15 December 2011 14:10, Shrinivasan T  wrote:
>
>> Friends.
>>
>> Tamil Wikipedia announced a Media Contest to increase the commons
>> media files like photos, audio and video in the wikipedia world.
>> see the announcement here.
>> http://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contest/en
>>
>> To upload the photos there are two ways available so far.
>>
>> 1. The web based upload wizard
>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:UploadWizard
>>
>> 2. Java based upload tool - Commonist
>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Tools/Commonist
>>
>> We have to provide a detailed filename and description to the images
>> for uploading.
>>
>> When we have a bunch of photos to upload, we have to select them,
>> crop, or edit them before uploading.
>>
>> Found that that "GThumb Image Viewer" can show the files, edit the
>> files and add IPTC tags to the images.
>>
>> We can view,edit,delete,rotate,crop and add the required Description
>> and Title to the images
>> for uploading to wikimedia commons.
>>
>> How to upload the files?
>> There are two tools already.
>> But, I wanted to plugin to any image viewer to upload to wikimedia
>> commons directly.
>> No image viewer has that plugin.
>>
>> DigiKam has it, but due to some issues, the mediawiki plugin is not
>> released.
>>
>> So, I started to write my own script for uploading all the files in a
>> folder to upload to mediawiki.
>>
>> Here is it.
>> http://code.google.com/p/mediawiki-uploader/
>>
>> Usage details are available in INSTALL and README files.
>>
>> Thanks for the wikipedia users Surya and Sodabottle for their valuable
>> suggestions.
>>
>> Please report if there are any issues.
>>
>> Provide your suggestions for improving too.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>> T.Shrinivasan
>>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] mediawiki-uploader

[Gerard Meijssen]

Hoi,
Help yourself and the contestants by localising the last 150 messages of
the UploadWizard.
Thanks,
  GerardM

http://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special:Translate&group=ext-uploadwizard&language=ta

On 15 December 2011 14:10, Shrinivasan T  wrote:

> Friends.
>
> Tamil Wikipedia announced a Media Contest to increase the commons
> media files like photos, audio and video in the wikipedia world.
> see the announcement here.
> http://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contest/en
>
> To upload the photos there are two ways available so far.
>
> 1. The web based upload wizard
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:UploadWizard
>
> 2. Java based upload tool - Commonist
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Tools/Commonist
>
> We have to provide a detailed filename and description to the images
> for uploading.
>
> When we have a bunch of photos to upload, we have to select them,
> crop, or edit them before uploading.
>
> Found that that "GThumb Image Viewer" can show the files, edit the
> files and add IPTC tags to the images.
>
> We can view,edit,delete,rotate,crop and add the required Description
> and Title to the images
> for uploading to wikimedia commons.
>
> How to upload the files?
> There are two tools already.
> But, I wanted to plugin to any image viewer to upload to wikimedia
> commons directly.
> No image viewer has that plugin.
>
> DigiKam has it, but due to some issues, the mediawiki plugin is not
> released.
>
> So, I started to write my own script for uploading all the files in a
> folder to upload to mediawiki.
>
> Here is it.
> http://code.google.com/p/mediawiki-uploader/
>
> Usage details are available in INSTALL and README files.
>
> Thanks for the wikipedia users Surya and Sodabottle for their valuable
> suggestions.
>
> Please report if there are any issues.
>
> Provide your suggestions for improving too.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Regards,
> T.Shrinivasan
>
>
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[Wikimediaindia-l] mediawiki-uploader

[Shrinivasan T]

Friends.

Tamil Wikipedia announced a Media Contest to increase the commons
media files like photos, audio and video in the wikipedia world.
see the announcement here.
http://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contest/en

To upload the photos there are two ways available so far.

1. The web based upload wizard
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:UploadWizard

2. Java based upload tool - Commonist
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Tools/Commonist

We have to provide a detailed filename and description to the images
for uploading.

When we have a bunch of photos to upload, we have to select them,
crop, or edit them before uploading.

Found that that "GThumb Image Viewer" can show the files, edit the
files and add IPTC tags to the images.

We can view,edit,delete,rotate,crop and add the required Description
and Title to the images
for uploading to wikimedia commons.

How to upload the files?
There are two tools already.
But, I wanted to plugin to any image viewer to upload to wikimedia
commons directly.
No image viewer has that plugin.

DigiKam has it, but due to some issues, the mediawiki plugin is not released.

So, I started to write my own script for uploading all the files in a
folder to upload to mediawiki.

Here is it.
http://code.google.com/p/mediawiki-uploader/

Usage details are available in INSTALL and README files.

Thanks for the wikipedia users Surya and Sodabottle for their valuable
suggestions.

Please report if there are any issues.

Provide your suggestions for improving too.

Thanks.





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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Pune hackathon scheduled 10-12 February 2012

[Siebrand Mazeland (WMF)]

Op 15 dec. 2011 om 09:38 heeft Srikanth Ramakrishnan  
het volgende geschreven:

> Aah, well. Will the Hackathon be India specific.

There are multiple interpretations of that question, I think. I'll try to cover 
all interpretations I can think of.

FYI: This is all tentative.

Yesterday we came up with a focus for this developer event on gadgets, mobile 
and language support.

The Wikimedia Foundation will have to ensure that there is a healthy seed 
ratio. A seed here is someone knowledgeable enough to actually transfer 
knowledge about the technology and bring the junior level attendees (hopefully) 
to a higher skill and knowledge level, so that they in turn will be able to 
create more value by themselves and are motivated to be more engaged. For now, 
it looks like we may be able to have between 8 and 10 people of the Wikimedia 
Foundation staff attend. That means we can have a  maximum of about 50 
attendees for the in depth sessions.

As we have seen during the developer events in Mumbai and Pune a few weeks ago, 
we will probably get a group of people that will be interested in very 
different things. Mobile has both client side "app" components, as well as 
MediaWiki core and extension components - the scope is not necessarily India 
here, although communities in India can of course benefit from generic 
features. For gadgets, especially when we are talking global gadgets, a feature 
of the upcoming ResourceLoader2 (short: RL2), things like internationalisation 
and localisation may be a point of interest, but hard core JavaScript/jQuery 
user contributed feature development for multiple wikis could also be an area 
of interest. India or global? You tell me :).

Language support probably IS going to be aimed at India. It hardly makes sense 
to focus on for example African language support from Pune; we should try and 
make the most out of the very diverse knowledge pool that a national knowledge 
and education centre like Pune has to offer.

That's all I have to share for now. Hope it can satisfy your hunger for 
information for now!

I expect that Sumana will be making more formal announcements soon wrt to 
eligibility, registration, etc. shortly.

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Please add Sanskrit 2003 web font to Sanskrit Wikipedia

[Amir E. Aharoni]

2011/12/15 ePandit | ई-पण्डित :
> NonCommericial - I think use in Wikipedia is non-commerical.

No, Wikipedia is not non-commercial in this regard. It's a very
frequent misunderstanding, though - the first article i created in the
English Wikipedia was speedily deleted because of this ;)

In short, materials brought into Wikipedia must be free for usage
commercially, too. The full explanation is here:
https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:Licensing_policy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:NONCOM

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Please add Sanskrit 2003 web font to Sanskrit Wikipedia

[Swaroop Rao]

On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 16:40, ePandit | ई-पण्डित
wrote:

> NonCommericial - I think use in Wikipedia is non-commerical.
>
Wikipedia use is non-commercial, but since it is open for reuse, the reuse
need not be necessarily non-commercial.


> NoDerivs - Do the font need to be modified for using as web font?
>
>
> It is clearly stated that it can be used as a web font.
>
> 2011/12/15 Amir E. Aharoni 
>
> Either of "NonCommercial" and "NoDerivs" clauses in the license make
>> it invalid for usage in Wikimedia projects, because they limit the
>> usage of the font.
>>
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>> I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬
>>
>>
>>
>> 2011/12/15 ePandit | ई-पण्डित :
>> > In that case please add Sidhanta font to Sanskrit wikipedia, it has most
>> > feature rich font for Sanskrit. (Sanskrit 2003 is better in display)
>> > http://svayambhava.org/index.php/en/sanskrit/fonts
>> >
>> > Also it is clearly stated that it can be used as a web font.
>> >
>> > Siddhnata font software (including font variations and Vaidika IME) is
>> > published under Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivs 3.0
>> > Unported License. Its Latin and Cyrillic glyph sets (based on DejaVu
>> font
>> > can be used according to free license. Siddhanta can be used as a web
>> font.
>> >
>> >
>> > 2011/12/14 Srikanth Lakshmanan 
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 20:16, ePandit | ई-पण्डित
>> >>  wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> I just saw that web fonts facility have been added to Indic wikis. On
>> >>> Hindi and Sanskrit wikipedia, there are Lohit Devanagari and Samyak
>> >>> Devanagari fonts.
>> >>>
>> >>> I request to add Sanskrit 2003 web font to Sanskrit wikipedia (and if
>> >>> possible to other Devanagari script based wikis) because it is the
>> best
>> >>> Unicode font to display Sanskrit text. It is also free, so there is no
>> >>> problem to use it for this purpose.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> As far as I could check, it is not a freely licensed font. They are
>> only
>> >> free for personal use. I could not find a clear license statement for
>> it
>> >> though, If you could find it, please point it to us. If its freely
>> licensed,
>> >> please file a bug request here[1]
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> [1]
>> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=MediaWiki%20extensions&component=WebFonts
>> >>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Please add Sanskrit 2003 web font to Sanskrit Wikipedia

[Santhosh Thottingal]

On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 4:40 PM, ePandit | ई-पण्डित
 wrote:
> NoDerivs - Do the font need to be modified for using as web font?

Yes, Derivative fonts in alternate formats need to be created from the
original font.

Thanks
Santhosh

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Please add Sanskrit 2003 web font to Sanskrit Wikipedia

[ePandit | ई-पण्डित]

NonCommericial - I think use in Wikipedia is non-commerical.
NoDerivs - Do the font need to be modified for using as web font?

It is clearly stated that it can be used as a web font.

2011/12/15 Amir E. Aharoni 

> Either of "NonCommercial" and "NoDerivs" clauses in the license make
> it invalid for usage in Wikimedia projects, because they limit the
> usage of the font.
>
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> I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬
>
>
>
> 2011/12/15 ePandit | ई-पण्डित :
> > In that case please add Sidhanta font to Sanskrit wikipedia, it has most
> > feature rich font for Sanskrit. (Sanskrit 2003 is better in display)
> > http://svayambhava.org/index.php/en/sanskrit/fonts
> >
> > Also it is clearly stated that it can be used as a web font.
> >
> > Siddhnata font software (including font variations and Vaidika IME) is
> > published under Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivs 3.0
> > Unported License. Its Latin and Cyrillic glyph sets (based on DejaVu font
> > can be used according to free license. Siddhanta can be used as a web
> font.
> >
> >
> > 2011/12/14 Srikanth Lakshmanan 
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 20:16, ePandit | ई-पण्डित
> >>  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I just saw that web fonts facility have been added to Indic wikis. On
> >>> Hindi and Sanskrit wikipedia, there are Lohit Devanagari and Samyak
> >>> Devanagari fonts.
> >>>
> >>> I request to add Sanskrit 2003 web font to Sanskrit wikipedia (and if
> >>> possible to other Devanagari script based wikis) because it is the best
> >>> Unicode font to display Sanskrit text. It is also free, so there is no
> >>> problem to use it for this purpose.
> >>
> >>
> >> As far as I could check, it is not a freely licensed font. They are only
> >> free for personal use. I could not find a clear license statement for it
> >> though, If you could find it, please point it to us. If its freely
> licensed,
> >> please file a bug request here[1]
> >>
> >>
> >> [1]
> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=MediaWiki%20extensions&component=WebFonts
> >>
> >> --
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Report on WikiKovai meet 1.

[Srikanth Ramakrishnan]

Heya,
I logged into Facebook after a week to find out that Prasanna has psoted a
detailed report on the meetup facebook event page.
The link to the page is on the meetup page on Meta.
Perhaps, Bala, Subha or Ansuman could copy it here
It would explain things from a newcomers point of view.
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On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 12:41 AM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan <
parakara.gh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks a lot Arjuna. I think February will be good as exams won't be
> there then. Meanwhile, I do hope that the Academy in Jan will help up
> increase the active community members in Coimbatore for further
> meetups to happen.
>
> On 12/14/11, Arjuna Rao Chavala  wrote:
> > Srikanth R,
> >
> > My previous discussion is about wiki academy for journalism students of
> > Amrita institution in Coimbatore for Jan 2012. No such event happened in
> > 2011.
> >
> > Getting regular meetups happen is a big challenge even in places like
> > Bangalore. You can plan for once in two months or so to start with
> > encourage people to edit, participate in nearby meetups, wiki academies,
> > encourage membership in chapter to grow the movement on a sustainable
> basis.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Arjuna Rao Chavala
> > -
> > Sent via mobile
> > On Dec 14, 2011 11:10 PM, "Srikanth Ramakrishnan" <
> parakara.gh...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Heya, this just struck me. Arjuna mentioned to me that there was an
> >> Academy held in Coimbatore back in April 2011. Maybe, we could get
> >> guys from there to attend the next meetup, provided some experienced
> >> community member attends it.
> >>
> >> On 12/13/11, Srikanth Ramakrishnan  wrote:
> >> > Thanks for the positive response guys. I'll try and arrange a meetup
> >> > in the second week of January. Since the only two Wikipedians are out
> >> > of town and it also will be Wikipedia Day, presence of a member of
> >> > chapter or foundation would be welcome.
> >> >
> >> > On 12/13/11, ansuman  wrote:
> >> >> Very nice report. I hope to see more active wikipedians. And hope the
> >> >> community grows. You rock, Keep it up.
> >> >>
> >> >> Regards
> >> >> ansu
> >> >> *
> >> >> ଓଡ଼ିଆ ଉଇକିପିଡ଼ିଆ
> >> >> *
> >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ansumang
> >> >>
> >> >> On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan <
> >> >> rsrikant...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> Heya all,
> >> >>> This should've come in elaier but didn't as my lab was shut.
> >> >>> To Pradeep, who's been asking for two days,
> >> >>> And Noopur, the only other Wikipedian who asked about this meet.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Our meetup was held at the KG Inst. of Tech [KITE] who offered us an
> >> >>> A/C presentation hall for this event.
> >> >>> KITE, is a part of KG Information Systems Ltd, one of the city's
> most
> >> >>> respected IT establishments.
> >> >>> The meetup space was offered by Mr. Ashok Bkathavatsalam himself,
> the
> >> >>> MD of KGISL, who in turn was told about this meet by Gautam John and
> >> >>> Venkat Mangudi. Thanks you two.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> The meetup started at 11am.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> We had ~14-15 attendees, out of which 8 or 9 were part of ILUGC
> Pondy
> >> >>> [Indian Linux User Group Puducherry].
> >> >>> One Wikipedian saw the link to the meetup on my signature on an
> online
> >> >>> forum SkyScraperCity and came from Chennai.
> >> >>> Bala Jeyaraman, aka Sodabottle joined me a few minutes into the
> meetup
> >> >>> and it was him who spoke for the rest of the day.
> >> >>> Pre lunch, we basically spoke on how and why the Wikipedia model
> >> >>> worked, the principles of the project, with Bala using the age old
> >> >>> debate of whether Coimbatore or Madurai was the second largest city
> in
> >> >>> Tamil Nadu as an example for verifiability.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Bala explained the ease of typing in Tamil, etc.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Post lunch, we were joined by two faculty members of KITE, while Mr.
> >> >>> Ashok himself stepped in. Interestingly, he himself has an account
> on
> >> >>> the English Wikipedia and contributes too.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> The meetup ended at around 4, we took a few photos. I shall ask
> >> >>> Prasanna to upload them soon.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> It was a success, there were three existing Wikipedians, and the
> rest
> >> >>> were interested newcomers. I wouldn't call it an academy though.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> We've not scheduled a meetup for January yet, as the most probable
> >> >>> date is 15th Jan [Wikipedia Day] because both Bala and I won't be in
> >> >>> town. If anyone from the chapter/foundation can help lead it, I can
> >> >>> get people to attend and myself attend virtually thru Skype or so
> from
> >> >>> Kakinada.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Comments, suggestions most welcome.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> All brickbats my way, bouquets to Bala please.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> --
> >> >>>
> >> >>> --
> >> >>> Regards,
> >> >>> Srikanth Ramakrishnan,
> >> >>> Sathyamangalam-Gobichettipalayam Star Gazers
> >> >>> My Commons uploads, now exceeding 75.
> >> >>> http://c

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Narayam updates

[Srikanth Lakshmanan]

On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 14:14, Santhosh Thottingal <
santhosh.thottin...@gmail.com> wrote:

> We post the i18n deployment notes in Mediaiwiki-i18n list , one or two
> days before deployment.
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-i18n
>

This should help, Thanks.

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Insights from GLAMcamp Amsterdam

[Srikanth Ramakrishnan]

Great Noopur.
Good luck with your venture.
--

On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 2:14 AM, Noopur  wrote:

> Dear Arnav,
> This is awesome! I was speaking to Hisham about compiling a repository of
> presentations and Simple English guides, keeping them in PDF versions so
> that people can use them whenever. I have some presentations on GLAM and
> commons, if you want I can send them over and you don't have to go through
> the trouble of making them again.
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Arnav Sonara wrote:
>
>> Yeah, I mean since most of the photographers there would not be
>> knowing what commons is, I ll first give them presentation about
>> commons and explain them public domain licensing in detail.
>>
>> --
>> Thanks
>> Arnav (ricku).
>> (User:Rangilo_Gujarati) <
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rangilo_Gujarati>
>>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Insights from GLAMcamp Amsterdam

[Noopur]

Dear Arnav,
This is awesome! I was speaking to Hisham about compiling a repository of
presentations and Simple English guides, keeping them in PDF versions so
that people can use them whenever. I have some presentations on GLAM and
commons, if you want I can send them over and you don't have to go through
the trouble of making them again.

On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Arnav Sonara wrote:

> Yeah, I mean since most of the photographers there would not be
> knowing what commons is, I ll first give them presentation about
> commons and explain them public domain licensing in detail.
>
> --
> Thanks
> Arnav (ricku).
> (User:Rangilo_Gujarati) <
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rangilo_Gujarati>
>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Insights from GLAMcamp Amsterdam

[Arnav Sonara]

Yeah, I mean since most of the photographers there would not be
knowing what commons is, I ll first give them presentation about
commons and explain them public domain licensing in detail.

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Arnav (ricku).
(User:Rangilo_Gujarati) 

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[Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India Chapter November report 2011.

[Naveen Francis]

Dear Wikimedia community,

The highlights of the month of November for the Wikimedia Chapter (India)
are provided below:
 Administrative matters Membership

The Chapter membership stands at 185 as of 30 November 2011. This is nearly
double the number of members we had two months ago. The Chapter saw an
increase of 72 members who applied for spot membership at WikiConference
2011 organized last month in Mumbai.
 Donations

Dr Amit Keshri became the first person to donate to our Chapter. We express
our sincere thanks to Dr Keshri and others for their generous contributions
towards the young chapter.
Total donations received in Nov 2011 - INR 3601.
Average donations in Nov 2011 - INR 900.25.
 FCRA

We have applied for FCRA prior permission under the Foreign Contribution
(Regulation) Act with the Government of India on 5 November 2011 to be able
to receive funds
[1]from
Wikimedia Foundation. The expected time for processing is 3 to 4
months.

New organizations like ours can receive foreign contributions after seeking
project based prior permission from the Ministry of Home Affairs. We are
seeking permission so as to receive the grant amount allotted to us by the
Wikimedia Foundation in the United States

Another alternative is to apply for FCRA registration, which will
facilitate the receipt of foreign contributions. However, such permissions
are only granted to organizations with a proven track record of function in
their chosen field of work for a period of three years.
 Wiki Conference India 2011

The first Annual India WikiConference 2011 [1] was organized in Mumbai on
18-20 November 2011 at the University of Mumbai. The conference was jointly
hosted by the Wikimedia community in Mumbai and the chapter, along with
scores of volunteers from around the country. This was the first time that
the Indian Wikimedia community has come together to participate at a
national level to organize a conference at this scale.[2] The conference
organizing team was lead by Pranav Curumsey (Chair), Pradeep Mohandas
(Treasurer) and Moksh Juneja (Secretary).[3]

Jimmy Wales, the founder of Wikipedia, inaugurated the conference by
delivering a keynote on "Community Building: The Wiki Way in India". He
also said that this event was probably one of the largest Wikimedia events
in the world. Approximately 700 delegates from all over the country
attended the three day national conference. Full and partial scholarships
were given to 98 awardees out of 7070 applicants. MOre than 50
sessions[4]focused on community building, improving quality of
articles, Mediawiki,
establishing partnerships, Wikipedia India Education Program and sharing of
experiences and best practices. Some of the invited speakers included
Professor Krishna Kumar, Anand Kumar and Arnab Goswami. The state of Indic
Wikiprojects track showcased the current state of each Wikimedian community
in India. The conference also received very impressive and enthusiastic
coverage from the national and international media.[5]

As a part of the Chapter track, an overview[6] was presented by President
Arjuna Rao Chavala. The "Noteworthy Wikimedian Recognition" ceremony[7] was
anchored by Arun Ramarathnam, member of the executive committee which
honored several Wikimedians across different Wikiprojects pertinent to
India.[8]

Images and presentations from the conference have been uploaded to the
Wikimedia Commons[9].

Chapter thanks the organizing team for doing a phenomenal job for making
this event successful, and to to all the chapter members and volunteers
spread across the country who contributed so much of their time and effort.
Chapter also thanks Wikimedia Foundation and all other sponsors for their
support and cooperation.
 City and Language SIG

The Wikimedia Chapter is proud to announce the first batch of City and
Language SIG Chairs[10] from its members as given below:

   - Odiya SIG - Subhashish Panigrahi (Odiya user page of
Subhashish).

   - Bengali SIG - Jayanta Nath.

   - Sanskrit SIG Swaroop
Rao.


We look forward to your continued support and active participation in our
activities.

Report is present at http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Reports/November_2011_Report

Best,

On behalf of Wikimedia Chapter (India)

Thanks,
Naveen Francis
Secretary, Wikimedia India Chapter
[image: File:Wikimedia India logo.svg] 


Notes:

   - 1) http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConference_India_2011
   - 2) http://blog.wikimedia.org/2011/12/02/wikiconference-india/
   - 3)
   http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConference_India_2011/Community_and_Team
   - 4) http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConference_India_2011/Programs
   - 5)
   
http://lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Webfonts deployment on Indic Wikiprojects

[Srikanth Ramakrishnan]

If you want to test something new, either make it opt in, or don't do
it live. Not on Tamil, not on Hindi, not on any Wikipedia for that
matter.

On 12/14/11, Ravishankar  wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 1:01 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan
> wrote:
>
>> I dont think its appropriate to be a bit more experimental. You are seeing
>> the scale in absolute sense, we are seeing it in relative sense. Tamil
>> Wikipedia is 7th most-viewed Tamil site.
>
>
> +1. Similar stats can be observed for most of the Indic language Wiki
> projects with sizable content as they are the only / major source of
> reference online for the respective languages.
>
> Ravi
>


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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Insights from GLAMcamp Amsterdam

[Srikanth Ramakrishnan]

Arnav, brilliant, though I think you should first introduce
photographers to the Commons and explain the benefits. Let me know
your thoughts, if need be privately, as I'm planning to go forward
with a special meet aimed at the photography community myself, in
Coimbatore.

On 12/14/11, Arnav Sonara  wrote:
> Hey everyone,
>
> As Noopur said GLAM and outreach cannot be seperated, +1 to it.
>
> Also wanted to share with you guys that the outreach event and
> workshop I am organising in February in MS University Baroda, the
> organizers from the city were amazed to know what Commons is and how
> wikipedia and other project get images and media from it.
>
> So they have asked me to come up with an event specially targeting
> photographers. Thus am planning for "Wikipedia takes Baroda" though at
> much smaller scale than scavenger hunt which has happened in other
> countries till now.
>
> Please give your inputs on it. And Noopur I ll get in touch with you
> offline regarding it.
>
> Thanks.
>
> On 12/14/11, Pradeep Mohandas  wrote:
>> hi,
>>
>> Well, L could reach WikiSource (old books?), WikiQuotes, Wikictionary
>> (difficult, tho). Better to keep all options open. Also, all the Indic
>> stuff would go on the Indic version of the respective projects. So, a
>> Malayalam wikisource or a Marathi Wikisource other than just English.
>>
>> Pradeep
>> Handheld
>>
>> On 14/12/2011, Srikanth Ramakrishnan  wrote:
>>> Pradeep, thanks. I forgot that the L stood for Libraries. Thanks.
>>> According to me. G- Commons, Wikipedia. L- Wikisource. A- Commons,
>>> Wikipedia, Wikisource. M- Commons, Wikipedia. Am I right? These are
>>> just indicative as to what element of GLAM joins which project.
>>>
>>> On 12/14/11, Pradeep Mohandas  wrote:
 hi,

 Stuff from libraries and archives go onto WikiSource. I read/heard/saw
 somewhere that they're having a hard time monitoring docs uploaded
 there. Not sure if it needs monitoring for copyvio etc. So, a
 WikiSource person or encouraging a WikiSource person to do and learn
 more would be a welcome addition.
 warm regards,
 Pradeep
 Handheld

 On 14/12/2011, Srikanth Ramakrishnan  wrote:
> Pradeep, my thoughts exactly. The Commons would be the most utilised
> project due to GLAM, and I think we should ask Yann, who is an admin.
> Also, I'm curious to what role WikiSource would play here, especially
> in India.
>
> On 12/14/11, Pradeep Mohandas  wrote:
>> hi,
>>
>> GLAM contributions will impact contributions to Wikipedia sister
>> projects like Commons and WikiSource. Would love if people active on
>> these projects would come forward and share how such uploads from GLAM
>> would need to be moderated, etc. Would love to hear more from someone
>> who's onto WikiSource, especially.
>>
>> warm regards,
>> Pradeep
>> Handheld
>>
>> On 14/12/2011, Noopur  wrote:
>>> @ashwin thanks :) I plan to get one for Jan hopefully or at least
>>> figure
>>> things out by then. Am already designing a new logo and trying to see
>>> what
>>> sections can cover Indic reports+GLAM+outreach and more. If you have
>>> categories in mind, post on talk page or let's take this on private
>>> mail.
>>> I
>>> will need help editing maybe and i suck at using templates etc. Would
>>> be
>>> glad if you could help with it. :)
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan <
>>> parakara.gh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Ashwin, I fail to understand what this has to do with GLAM. Unless
 ofcourse, Noopur can run a section on GLAM on WikiPatrika ...

 On 12/14/11, Ashwin Baindur  wrote:
 > On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Noopur 
 > wrote:
 >
 >> * I can volunteer to make a newsletter! *
 >> Warmly
 >> Noopur
 >>
 >
 > Dear Noopur,
 >
 > This project was well begun but came to a dead halt! No one to
 > blame.
 With
 > a versatile person like Tinu handling so much, something was bound
 > to
 come
 > to a stop.
 >
 > http://wiki.wikimedia.in/WikiPatrika
 >
 > The next issue is of November but going nowhere -
 >
 > http://wiki.wikimedia.in/WikiPatrika/2011-11
 >
 > I suggest you try to get one out in Feb and two months after that
 > and
 > so
 > forth. Please rest assured on my support for  -
 > * op-ed
 > * tips 'n tricks
 > * English Wikipedia report
 >
 > Warm regards,
 >
 > Ashwin Baindur
 > --
 >


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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Narayam updates

[Santhosh Thottingal]

On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 1:34 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan  wrote:
> Shortcut key on Mac :- Refer bug[1] for details, in summary the shortcut key
> is now dynamic based on browser / OS combination so that the shortcut works.
> Control+G is new shortcut on Mac largely. This was done during Hackathon.
> //Surprise surprise, more Indic users on mac :)

Small correction, this fix was not done during hackathon, but before
that. And for Opera in OSX, shortcut is control+command+m.

> There are more bugs reported by others and the software keeps changing, so
> If you want to follow Narayam in close detail, subscribe to the feed[3].
>
> i18n team,
> Some of us know, you push i18n patches every Monday. Can you also give a
> feed for recent changes in patch *every week*, so we could see if something
> relevant to us changed in the patch and test so that we may not miss any
> regression caused and be quick to report issues. I know wikitech wiki has
> the logs somewhere on deployment(forgot now), but a plain text feed will
> help and save much time for many folks.


We post the i18n deployment notes in Mediaiwiki-i18n list , one or two
days before deployment.
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-i18n

Gerard blogs about the deployment , see
http://blog.wikimedia.org/2011/12/12/going-live-december-12-2011/ and
he plans to do this blog post for every deployment.

If anybody is interested particularly in some extension, they can
follow all the commits to that path in subversion For eg:
https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Code/MediaWiki&path=%2Ftrunk%2Fextensions%2FWebFonts
gives all the code changes happened in webfonts.

I am not sure whether it is really required to post these changes
every week here, because not every one is interested in reading the
code changes. I hope the code review page helps to find out all the
changes for an extension/component

Another way to find out planned revisions for i18ndeploy is looking at
this tag: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/tag/i18ndeploy

> To those communities which don't have any input method solution :-
> Please invest some time, the returns are really great. Juniad / i18n team
> will help you get Narayam.

Happy to help.

-Santhosh

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Report on WikiKovai meet 1.

[Srikanth Ramakrishnan]

Thanks a lot Arjuna. I think February will be good as exams won't be
there then. Meanwhile, I do hope that the Academy in Jan will help up
increase the active community members in Coimbatore for further
meetups to happen.

On 12/14/11, Arjuna Rao Chavala  wrote:
> Srikanth R,
>
> My previous discussion is about wiki academy for journalism students of
> Amrita institution in Coimbatore for Jan 2012. No such event happened in
> 2011.
>
> Getting regular meetups happen is a big challenge even in places like
> Bangalore. You can plan for once in two months or so to start with
> encourage people to edit, participate in nearby meetups, wiki academies,
> encourage membership in chapter to grow the movement on a sustainable basis.
>
> Cheers
> Arjuna Rao Chavala
> -
> Sent via mobile
> On Dec 14, 2011 11:10 PM, "Srikanth Ramakrishnan" 
> wrote:
>
>> Heya, this just struck me. Arjuna mentioned to me that there was an
>> Academy held in Coimbatore back in April 2011. Maybe, we could get
>> guys from there to attend the next meetup, provided some experienced
>> community member attends it.
>>
>> On 12/13/11, Srikanth Ramakrishnan  wrote:
>> > Thanks for the positive response guys. I'll try and arrange a meetup
>> > in the second week of January. Since the only two Wikipedians are out
>> > of town and it also will be Wikipedia Day, presence of a member of
>> > chapter or foundation would be welcome.
>> >
>> > On 12/13/11, ansuman  wrote:
>> >> Very nice report. I hope to see more active wikipedians. And hope the
>> >> community grows. You rock, Keep it up.
>> >>
>> >> Regards
>> >> ansu
>> >> *
>> >> ଓଡ଼ିଆ ଉଇକିପିଡ଼ିଆ
>> >> *
>> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ansumang
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan <
>> >> rsrikant...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Heya all,
>> >>> This should've come in elaier but didn't as my lab was shut.
>> >>> To Pradeep, who's been asking for two days,
>> >>> And Noopur, the only other Wikipedian who asked about this meet.
>> >>>
>> >>> Our meetup was held at the KG Inst. of Tech [KITE] who offered us an
>> >>> A/C presentation hall for this event.
>> >>> KITE, is a part of KG Information Systems Ltd, one of the city's most
>> >>> respected IT establishments.
>> >>> The meetup space was offered by Mr. Ashok Bkathavatsalam himself, the
>> >>> MD of KGISL, who in turn was told about this meet by Gautam John and
>> >>> Venkat Mangudi. Thanks you two.
>> >>>
>> >>> The meetup started at 11am.
>> >>>
>> >>> We had ~14-15 attendees, out of which 8 or 9 were part of ILUGC Pondy
>> >>> [Indian Linux User Group Puducherry].
>> >>> One Wikipedian saw the link to the meetup on my signature on an online
>> >>> forum SkyScraperCity and came from Chennai.
>> >>> Bala Jeyaraman, aka Sodabottle joined me a few minutes into the meetup
>> >>> and it was him who spoke for the rest of the day.
>> >>> Pre lunch, we basically spoke on how and why the Wikipedia model
>> >>> worked, the principles of the project, with Bala using the age old
>> >>> debate of whether Coimbatore or Madurai was the second largest city in
>> >>> Tamil Nadu as an example for verifiability.
>> >>>
>> >>> Bala explained the ease of typing in Tamil, etc.
>> >>>
>> >>> Post lunch, we were joined by two faculty members of KITE, while Mr.
>> >>> Ashok himself stepped in. Interestingly, he himself has an account on
>> >>> the English Wikipedia and contributes too.
>> >>>
>> >>> The meetup ended at around 4, we took a few photos. I shall ask
>> >>> Prasanna to upload them soon.
>> >>>
>> >>> It was a success, there were three existing Wikipedians, and the rest
>> >>> were interested newcomers. I wouldn't call it an academy though.
>> >>>
>> >>> We've not scheduled a meetup for January yet, as the most probable
>> >>> date is 15th Jan [Wikipedia Day] because both Bala and I won't be in
>> >>> town. If anyone from the chapter/foundation can help lead it, I can
>> >>> get people to attend and myself attend virtually thru Skype or so from
>> >>> Kakinada.
>> >>>
>> >>> Comments, suggestions most welcome.
>> >>>
>> >>> All brickbats my way, bouquets to Bala please.
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> Regards,
>> >>> Srikanth Ramakrishnan,
>> >>> Sathyamangalam-Gobichettipalayam Star Gazers
>> >>> My Commons uploads, now exceeding 75.
>> >>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:ListFiles/Rsrikanth05
>> >>>
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>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > --
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>> > Srikanth Ramakrishnan.
>> > Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on December 10th.
>> > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore
>> >
>>
>>
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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Pune hackathon scheduled 10-12 February 2012

[Srikanth Ramakrishnan]

Aah, well. Will the Hackathon be India specific.

On 12/14/11, Siebrand Mazeland (WMF)  wrote:
> Hi Srikanth,
>
> On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 6:37 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan <
> parakara.gh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Forgive me for this silly question, but will there be any session on
>> adapting WebFonts on the mobile site?
>>
>
> Why would that be a silly question?
>
> We have only just announced the event, as soon as possible, without have a
> detailed schedule or topic overview. Nothing potentially relevant is off
> the table beforehand, though, so please stay tuned! In about an hour we
> have the WMF internal kickoff, and I hope we will be able to communicate
> some topics before the year ends. No guarantees though, because I'll
> probably not be the project manager of the hackathon ;).
>
> --
> Siebrand Mazeland
> Product Manager Localisation
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Srikanth Ramakrishnan.
Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on December 10th.
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore

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[Wikimediaindia-l] Narayam updates

[Srikanth Lakshmanan]

Hi all,

Attention : Indic communities using Narayam extension. Other Indic
communities which don't have Narayam please do read below, I have a note
for you too

As of now Malayalam,Tamil,Odiya,Sanskrit,Assamese,Sinhala communities use
Narayam. Narayam is also deployed on Commons. Most of the communities had
got the extension few months back, but there have
been consistent improvements / bug fixes. Looks like people are not aware
of those changes and started asking Shiju where can they know more.I am
writing on 2 major things that was done to Narayam recently because of the
bugs we(Tamil community) filed and fixes for them had caused an
overall impact.

Shortcut key on Mac :- Refer bug[1] for details, in summary the shortcut
key is now dynamic based on browser / OS combination so that the shortcut
works. Control+G is new shortcut on Mac largely. This was done
during Hackathon. //Surprise surprise, more Indic users on mac :)

Beta maps :- Refer bug[2] for details, in summary, if you have seen more
input methods previously and started seeing lesser methods in last couple
of days, its probably because of this. We did not want untested keyboard
mappings live on WikiProjects. Beta maps will enable people to test newly
added maps(bunch of inscript maps were added as part of Hackathon /
Translation sprint) to be tested on translatewiki, only after a community
member certifies it, it will be seen in wikimedia sites. This was done last
week.

There are more bugs reported by others and the software keeps changing, so
If you want to follow Narayam in close detail, subscribe to the feed[3].

i18n team,
Some of us know, you push i18n patches every Monday. Can you also give a
feed for recent changes in patch *every week*, so we could see if something
relevant to us changed in the patch and test so that we may not miss any
regression caused and be quick to report issues. I know wikitech wiki has
the logs somewhere on deployment(forgot now), but a plain text feed will
help and save much time for many folks.

To those communities who have not taken up Narayam and use old javascript
solution :-
The Javascript solution is not an ideal one now, though it served the
purpose when it was built. Narayam is supported better / technically
superior and as an extension is fairly stable. Unlike webfonts, Narayam
will be deployed only if someone asks for and that should be the way..You
can test through http://translatewiki.net report bugs(Ideally
narayam  shouldn't have bugs since Junaid took the maps which already
existed in typing solution), get things fixed, call for
community consensus and getting them deployed. I also request Shiju (who
keeps interacting with various communities, to give a push on this to Indic
wikipedians)

To those communities which don't have any input method solution :-
Please invest some time, the returns are really great. Juniad / i18n team
will help you get Narayam.

[1] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31026
[2] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32768
[3]
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?component=Narayam&product=MediaWiki%20extensions&query_format=advanced&title=Bug%20List%3A%20Narayam%20bugs&ctype=atom&list_id=65646

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Srikanth.L
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