Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Indian Languages question
Dear Mam, I understand appreciate the depth of thought process and inputs put behind this question about use of words *Indian* or *Indic*. I'm very much convinced since all the languages we are considering belong to different classes and categories, geographically and origin wise too, and needs to be labeled under a common name! But if we consider the label Indian languages, which specifies the origin and use of the same in India, there are many languages which are predominantly used not only in India but also in the other surrounding counties eg. Bangla (Indic Language, Indo-Aryan) which is used in India, Bangladesh Burma. And many other Dravidian Languages which are thought to be specifically South Indian languages are used in neighboring eastern countries like Pakistan too. This question will arise every time when we have to specify Indian Language or Indic Languages for any given reason. How about the combination of names of both different language families so that the language set wont be distributed with respect to the current territorial boundaries but with regards to their origin and a proper classification depending upon the origin/birth. viz *Indic - Dravidian Languages* This was my personal view over the query, you can always correct me if I'm misleading. - Regards Thanks, Niraj Suryawanshi on behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune +91 814 992 0120 | niraj.suryawan...@gmail.com -- View this message in context: http://wikimedia.7.n6.nabble.com/Indian-Languages-question-tp4996015p4996021.html Sent from the WikiMedia India mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Republic Day - Marathi Wikipedia Workshop : Report
True hope you don't mind me calling you Sir Subhashish then :D - Regards Thanks, Niraj Suryawanshi on behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune +91 814 992 0120 | niraj.suryawan...@gmail.com -- View this message in context: http://wikimedia.7.n6.nabble.com/Republic-Day-Marathi-Wikipedia-Workshop-Report-tp4994868p4996022.html Sent from the WikiMedia India mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: Samskrit Wikiquote ( Wiki SuktayaH)
Suvaartaa asti. Great news. On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Abhiram C abhivasish...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Wikipedians, A new way to contribute to Samskrit is here The Samskrit Wikiquote is officially open for contributions. Thanks to all the people who have striven hard to make it count. The webpage can be found at *sa.wikiquote.org* http://sa.wikiquote.org -- Forwarded message -- From: Sumana sumana.koundi...@gmail.com Namaste, It is with immense pleasure, I wish to announce that Samskrit Wikiquote project ( *विकिसूक्तिः*) is out of Incubator and is available as an open source project like Wikipedia now. It was in a dormant stage with very limited editing options and visibility since its inception. We had started our efforts towards this in August 2012, persuading Wikipedia Language Committee. Over 7000 system messages were translated to samskrit, some 800 articles of useful content related to this project were created and uploaded, which were some of the requirements to approve new projects.Thanks to dedicated Wikipedians like Shiju Alex, that today we have the project out of incubator, which means, this project would be readily available for everyone to edit and use now on. The project is a store house of Subhashitas extracted from different scriptures like Veda, Upanishat Puraana, RamayaNa, Mahabharatam etc, categorised based on the topics with explanations. Also, it contains the idioms and phrases, witty puzzles, sayings of great people, Chitrakaavyam etc, everything in Samskrit. It is to be noted that all these, in a single webpage is not available anywhere else in such an easily available form. We have about 1260 pages under various categories, for a ready review at *sa. wikiquote.org* I request everyone to visit once for guidance, comments or contributions... Once again, Congratulations to one and all who have been instrumental in crossing this milestone... Thanks and Warm Regards, Dr Sumana Wikipedia Wing, Samskrita Bharati 98807 93423 -- Thanks Regards, Abhiram C, Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org Editor, User: sbblr0803 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sbblr0803 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India needs your support: Our First Fundraiser
Hello, Niraj. To clarify, Wikimedia India, and indeed any other group or individual Wikimedian in India, _is_ eligible for funding from the Wikimedia Foundation, via 3 different grant programs, described here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Start There exists a fourth funding model which offers less restricted funds to affiliated entities that meet other, more stringent, eligibility standards, called the Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC) process. You can read all about it at the FDC portal[1], and specifically about the eligibility criteria for the FDC[2]. At the moment, Wikimedia India does not meet all of the criteria. It is likely that it _will_ by the next round of funding (not the one currently underway), later this year. So no one has withdrawn financial support from India at all. Indeed, Wikimedia India has lately been discussing with the Foundation its intent to submit two new grant proposals to the Wikimedia Grants Program (that I manage), and I personally encouraged them to do so. I encourage you (and anyone reading this) to read the information pages on WMF's various funding models, starting with the link above. Cheers, Asaf Bartov Wikimedia Foundation [1] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/FDC_portal [2] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/FDC_portal/Eligibility_criteria On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Niraj Suryawanshi niraj.suryawan...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Well this initiative is a good one, off-course we here in India do the fundraising, would help the whole movement for sure! But the India Chapter is INELIGIBLE! hits me bad, INELIGIBLE? what does that mean?! I would be glad to know about the same. - Regards Thanks, Niraj Suryawanshi on behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune +91 8149920120 | niraj.suryawan...@gmail.com -- View this message in context: http://wikimedia.7.n6.nabble.com/Wikimedia-India-needs-your-support-Our-First-Fundraiser-tp4995059p4995963.html Sent from the WikiMedia India mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Asaf Bartov Wikimedia Foundation http://www.wikimediafoundation.org Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! https://donate.wikimedia.org ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Gujarati wikimedians at Science fair, Bharuch
Thank you very much for your kind reply Vishnu, Yes, outreach programs at schools has always been on our agenda. I know Shushant has passion for it. We are celebrating Gujarati Wikisource's first anniversary very soon (official announcement will be sent out), which has been planned at an educational institute. We, as a community, have discussed this path a few times in our monthly web meetings that I hold every first Sunday of month. We'll discuss it within community once again and get back to you off the list, keeping interested parties in loop. Thanks once again for your kind words and appreciation for Satishchamdra and his team. Best Regards, Dhaval On 11 Feb 2013 03:49, Vishnu t visdav...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Dhaval, Thank you for sharing this. Excellent work Satishchandra, Devendrasinh Gohil and Jayam Patel. Mainly because the way in which you have dovetailed the Gujarati Wiki outreach event at the primary education level. I feel this is a useful and more organic model of doing Education programmes. I think there is a larger shared interest among the Gujarati Wikipedian friends about Wiki-Education programme, as I heard Sushant Salva also extensively talking about this. Dhaval, would you and other Gujarati Wikipedian friends want to consider developing a model of doing Wiki-Education programme. By this I mean going deeper and critically reflecting, documenting on the challenges and learnings, etc. If yes, we can bring in some critical inputs by experts in the Elementary education sector and facilitate the process. And also in making all your efforts result in larger and sustained results. Please do discuss with friends and get back either on or off the list - Warmly, Vishnu If I may, it is important that there is more cross reporting of the work being done by various Wikipedians across Indian languages. There is not much news about the passionate work being done by many of our friends. While we will work in bringing back Wiki Patrika, I feel it is very useful to have posts on this list which can act as a source of cross-pollination of ideas, collaborations and projects. Any ideas and suggestions on this would be Welcome. Best, Vishnu On 11 February 2013 04:28, Dhaval S. Vyas dsv...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I would like to share a news with you. Recently Narmadanagar Community Science Centre, Bharuch, Gujarat organised a science fair for the schools of Bharuch District. Three of our active Gujarati Wiki community members participated in the science fair and demonstrate to the teachers and school children how Gujarati Wikipedia and Wikisource could be utilised by them. These three users are Satishchandra, Devendrasinh Gohil and Jayam Patel. Satishchandra is one of the wikimedians recognised for his noteworthy contributions last year by WMIN. They participated in the science fair without any external help, and without any publicity. They talked to shool teachers and students about what is Wikipedia and wikisource, how can they contribute, how to type in Gujarati, how wikipedia and wikisource could be useful to them, etc. Also, they brifed them lightly about the principles of wikis and showed them few pages as well to provide hands-on experience. Regards, Dhaval ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Indian Languages question
Interestingly - People are so sensitive over these words. I was casual while using those for 'Spoken Wikipedia for Indic Languages' and request for participation was sent to all mailing lists. There was debate about Indic vs Indian vs Dravidian on same Mailing list about usage. And strong resistance was shown by other mailing lists privately, and surprisingly on open mailing lists people were open to Use 'F' word and censored criticism - I was unaware of such strong issues. Its always good to respect sentiments over language grouping name. After many mails, As of now Project name is 'Spoken Wikipedia for Indian Languageshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Spoken_Wikipedia/Indic_Languages' but it will be interesting to know Indic/Indian/Dravidian usage to cover broader languages. It might be useful to use Asian Languages term to cover major languages. Thanks for starting this conversation. Keep Exploring, Keep Inspiring! :) Best Regards, Abhishek Suryawanshi, On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Tejaswini Niranjana t...@cscs.res.inwrote: Dear All, Was the WMF brief for the India office limited to languages in India or did it include South Asia (India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Nepal, Bhutan, Maldives – and by some definitions Tibet and Afghanistan as well)? According to what I could find online, the public announcement of WMF specifies Hindi and 20 other Indian languages. As I’ve discussed with some of you before, the term “Indic” could be problematic when used to refer to contemporary languages, and I’m sure our South Asian neighbours will take strong exception to their languages being given this description. The issue isn't merely a philological one to do with the etymology of words, but has extensive social and political ramifications, as we would all know from different kinds of contexts. If we’re presently intervening in generating content and increasing editorship for languages used in India, we should perhaps be using the term “Indian languages”. If we’re including languages that have a different originating location geographically, like Nepali, we should say “South Asian languages”. Of course there will be the problematic cases of Bangla, Punjabi and Urdu which are spoken across borders. I heard from Wikipedia users in Kolkata that the majority of Bangla wiki editors are from Bangladesh. This was a casual remark and needs to be borne out by an actual survey. It would be an interesting challenge to confront this problem rather than avoid it. Here’s a brief note on the Indic/Indian question: *Indic:* a theoretical concept used to *refer to common characteristics*of the languages falling in the family of languages native to India. Most often the term 'Indic' means ''of Indian origin. This usage is in line with the assumptions of classical philology that Indian languages and customs share a common root and origin. Such assumptions have either been*challenged for their overwhelming homogeneity * or have become* theoretically less and less useful* over the years in understanding the growth of Indian culture and society. At any rate, Indic in contemporary theoretical usage refers to ancient and medieval historical texts and languages of the Indian subcontinent and has an archaic ring to it. *Indian Languages:* a term referring to all the languages which are in use in India. Unlike the previous term, it doesn’t contain any hidden theoretical or ideological assumptions and may be used to refer neutrally to languages which have been in India for a considerable amount of time. This usage may be more appropriate to Wikipedia’s NPOV position. Eg., While there can be debate about whether Urdu is an Indic language, there can be no controversy in stating that Urdu is an Indian language. While Nepali and Sinhalese are definitely Indic languages owing to their linguistic genealogy, we may choose to, or not choose to, term them as Indian languages based on the geographical and political context we’re referring to. [Here, I would strongly recommend using the term South Asian languages - this usage is common in defining a disciplinary domain as well, such as South Asian Studies. Famous university departments such as the SALC at the University of Chicago explicitly use the term South Asian Languages (and Civilizations, but that is another story).] By the way, South Indian languages are technically speaking not 'Indic' at all, since they belong to the Dravidian language family. We can't also forget that it is three South Indian languages - Kannada, Tamil, Telugu - that are regarded as classical languages in India. Although there’s no clarity on exact usage of the terms, there’s a general consensus about using Indic to refer to ancient and medieval texts. For example, see, Sheldon Pollock, *The Language of the Gods in the World of Men: Sanskrit, Culture, and Power in Premodern India*
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Republic Day - Marathi Wikipedia Workshop : Report
Thank you so much Ashwin for appreciation..As one of founder member - Your mail means alot to us. P.S : Workshop was conducted in 'Jnana Prabodhini', and many kids and students were asking about 'you'. You were there for past two Wikipedia anniversaries and present for almost all Workshops. Activities can be scaled up and could be more inspiring in your presence. We all miss you. .Please come back soon :) Take Care. Best Regards, Abhishek Suryawanshi, On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 7:18 AM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.comwrote: Great work Suryawanshi, Suryawanshi Wikipedia Pune Club members! Ashwin On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 12:00 AM, Niraj Suryawanshi niraj.suryawan...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Shrikant, Have u been through the articles yet? any reviews you want to share with us to help us improve better?? - Regards Thanks, Niraj Suryawanshi on behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune +91 8149920120 | niraj.suryawan...@gmail.com -- View this message in context: http://wikimedia.7.n6.nabble.com/Republic-Day-Marathi-Wikipedia-Workshop-Report-tp4994868p4995964.html Sent from the WikiMedia India mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Warm regards, Ashwin Baindur -- ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Gujarati wikimedians at Science fair, Bharuch
Hi Vishnu We have done outreach sessions at Ahmedabad, Rajkot etc. Also done one essay writing competition for student and in that there were 300 participation. and the most important thing is that the growth rate of Gujarati WIkipedia is 150% that is due to dedicated efforts of whole community. As Dhavalbhai said we, as a community, have discussed this path a few times in our monthly web meetings so now we are growing with the sincere dedication of all community members. Thanks Harsh On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Dhaval S. Vyas dsv...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you very much for your kind reply Vishnu, Yes, outreach programs at schools has always been on our agenda. I know Shushant has passion for it. We are celebrating Gujarati Wikisource's first anniversary very soon (official announcement will be sent out), which has been planned at an educational institute. We, as a community, have discussed this path a few times in our monthly web meetings that I hold every first Sunday of month. We'll discuss it within community once again and get back to you off the list, keeping interested parties in loop. Thanks once again for your kind words and appreciation for Satishchamdra and his team. Best Regards, Dhaval On 11 Feb 2013 03:49, Vishnu t visdav...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Dhaval, Thank you for sharing this. Excellent work Satishchandra, Devendrasinh Gohil and Jayam Patel. Mainly because the way in which you have dovetailed the Gujarati Wiki outreach event at the primary education level. I feel this is a useful and more organic model of doing Education programmes. I think there is a larger shared interest among the Gujarati Wikipedian friends about Wiki-Education programme, as I heard Sushant Salva also extensively talking about this. Dhaval, would you and other Gujarati Wikipedian friends want to consider developing a model of doing Wiki-Education programme. By this I mean going deeper and critically reflecting, documenting on the challenges and learnings, etc. If yes, we can bring in some critical inputs by experts in the Elementary education sector and facilitate the process. And also in making all your efforts result in larger and sustained results. Please do discuss with friends and get back either on or off the list - Warmly, Vishnu If I may, it is important that there is more cross reporting of the work being done by various Wikipedians across Indian languages. There is not much news about the passionate work being done by many of our friends. While we will work in bringing back Wiki Patrika, I feel it is very useful to have posts on this list which can act as a source of cross-pollination of ideas, collaborations and projects. Any ideas and suggestions on this would be Welcome. Best, Vishnu On 11 February 2013 04:28, Dhaval S. Vyas dsv...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I would like to share a news with you. Recently Narmadanagar Community Science Centre, Bharuch, Gujarat organised a science fair for the schools of Bharuch District. Three of our active Gujarati Wiki community members participated in the science fair and demonstrate to the teachers and school children how Gujarati Wikipedia and Wikisource could be utilised by them. These three users are Satishchandra, Devendrasinh Gohil and Jayam Patel. Satishchandra is one of the wikimedians recognised for his noteworthy contributions last year by WMIN. They participated in the science fair without any external help, and without any publicity. They talked to shool teachers and students about what is Wikipedia and wikisource, how can they contribute, how to type in Gujarati, how wikipedia and wikisource could be useful to them, etc. Also, they brifed them lightly about the principles of wikis and showed them few pages as well to provide hands-on experience. Regards, Dhaval ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Harsh Kothari Engineering Trainee, Physical Research Laboratory. Follow Me : harshkothari410 https://twitter.com/harshkothari410/ ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Republic Day - Marathi Wikipedia Workshop : Report
I second Abhishek! :) On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Abhishek Suryawanshi i.abhishek.suryawan...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you so much Ashwin for appreciation..As one of founder member - Your mail means alot to us. P.S : Workshop was conducted in 'Jnana Prabodhini', and many kids and students were asking about 'you'. You were there for past two Wikipedia anniversaries and present for almost all Workshops. Activities can be scaled up and could be more inspiring in your presence. We all miss you. .Please come back soon :) Take Care. Best Regards, Abhishek Suryawanshi, On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 7:18 AM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.comwrote: Great work Suryawanshi, Suryawanshi Wikipedia Pune Club members! Ashwin On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 12:00 AM, Niraj Suryawanshi niraj.suryawan...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Shrikant, Have u been through the articles yet? any reviews you want to share with us to help us improve better?? - Regards Thanks, Niraj Suryawanshi on behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune +91 8149920120 | niraj.suryawan...@gmail.com -- View this message in context: http://wikimedia.7.n6.nabble.com/Republic-Day-Marathi-Wikipedia-Workshop-Report-tp4994868p4995964.html Sent from the WikiMedia India mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Warm regards, Ashwin Baindur -- ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Gujarati wikimedians at Science fair, Bharuch
Thanks Dhaval and Harsh. We have done outreach sessions at Ahmedabad, Rajkot etc. Also done one essay writing competition for student and in that there were 300 participation. and the most important thing is that the growth rate of Gujarati WIkipedia is 150% that is due to dedicated efforts of whole community. This is good Harsh, we should ensure that the momentum continues and do not hesitate to demand support from the A2K team. Thank you very much for your kind reply Vishnu, Yes, outreach programs at schools has always been on our agenda. I know Shushant has passion for it. We are celebrating Gujarati Wikisource's first anniversary very soon (official announcement will be sent out), which has been planned at an educational institute. Yay! We should make the Wikisource Anniversary celebration big. Kudos to Sushant!! We could plan this off the list. We, as a community, have discussed this path a few times in our monthly web meetings that I hold every first Sunday of month. We'll discuss it within community once again and get back to you off the list, keeping interested parties in loop. Great. Look forward, Dhaval. Warmly, Vishnu ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Gujarati wikimedians at Science fair, Bharuch
Dhaval, this is indeed excellent news. Keep up the excellent work! On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 4:34 PM, Vishnu t visdav...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Dhaval and Harsh. We have done outreach sessions at Ahmedabad, Rajkot etc. Also done one essay writing competition for student and in that there were 300 participation. and the most important thing is that the growth rate of Gujarati WIkipedia is 150% that is due to dedicated efforts of whole community. This is good Harsh, we should ensure that the momentum continues and do not hesitate to demand support from the A2K team. Thank you very much for your kind reply Vishnu, Yes, outreach programs at schools has always been on our agenda. I know Shushant has passion for it. We are celebrating Gujarati Wikisource's first anniversary very soon (official announcement will be sent out), which has been planned at an educational institute. Yay! We should make the Wikisource Anniversary celebration big. Kudos to Sushant!! We could plan this off the list. We, as a community, have discussed this path a few times in our monthly web meetings that I hold every first Sunday of month. We'll discuss it within community once again and get back to you off the list, keeping interested parties in loop. Great. Look forward, Dhaval. Warmly, Vishnu ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Srikanth Ramakrishnan Member of the Executive Committee Wikimedia Chapter [India] Donate to the Wikimedia India Chapter todayhttp://wiki.wikimedia.in/Donations ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: Samskrit Wikiquote ( Wiki SuktayaH)
System messages are messages of the interface. On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 7:04 PM, sankarshan foss.mailingli...@gmail.comwrote: On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Abhiram C abhivasish...@gmail.com wrote: [a somewhat bad snip from the forwarded email] We had started our efforts towards this in August 2012, persuading Wikipedia Language Committee. Over 7000 system messages were translated to samskrit, some 800 articles of useful content related to this project were created and uploaded, which were some of the requirements to approve new projects. Would it be possible for someone to explain the term system messages ? -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay https://twitter.com/#!/sankarshan ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Srikanth Ramakrishnan Member of the Executive Committee Wikimedia Chapter [India] Donate to the Wikimedia India Chapter todayhttp://wiki.wikimedia.in/Donations ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] why to donate
hai, why to donate to wikipedia chapter when they have 2lakh ruppes. this is cheating.___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] why to donate
Hi Dr. Nawab Hakim, to clarify, the 2lakh that you are referring to was made as a grant to the Centre for Internet and Society, an independent organisation working out of Delhi. The Wikimedia Chapter (India) is independent society registered in India, under the Karnataka Societies Act. It is a Non-Profit entity comprising of volunteers. We rely on donations to run the Chapter. I hope this clears it out. On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 6:25 PM, Dr. Nawab Hakim nawabhaki...@ymail.comwrote: hai, why to donate to wikipedia chapter when they have 2lakh ruppes. this is cheating. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Srikanth Ramakrishnan Member of the Executive Committee Wikimedia Chapter [India] Donate to the Wikimedia India Chapter todayhttp://wiki.wikimedia.in/Donations ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Republic Day - Marathi Wikipedia Workshop : Report
Yes Niraj, I did go thru a few of them. On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Abhijeet Safai abhijeet.sa...@gmail.comwrote: I second Abhishek! :) On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Abhishek Suryawanshi i.abhishek.suryawan...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you so much Ashwin for appreciation..As one of founder member - Your mail means alot to us. P.S : Workshop was conducted in 'Jnana Prabodhini', and many kids and students were asking about 'you'. You were there for past two Wikipedia anniversaries and present for almost all Workshops. Activities can be scaled up and could be more inspiring in your presence. We all miss you. .Please come back soon :) Take Care. Best Regards, Abhishek Suryawanshi, On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 7:18 AM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.com wrote: Great work Suryawanshi, Suryawanshi Wikipedia Pune Club members! Ashwin On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 12:00 AM, Niraj Suryawanshi niraj.suryawan...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Shrikant, Have u been through the articles yet? any reviews you want to share with us to help us improve better?? - Regards Thanks, Niraj Suryawanshi on behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune +91 8149920120 | niraj.suryawan...@gmail.com -- View this message in context: http://wikimedia.7.n6.nabble.com/Republic-Day-Marathi-Wikipedia-Workshop-Report-tp4994868p4995964.html Sent from the WikiMedia India mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Warm regards, Ashwin Baindur -- ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. Sign this petition to introduce Volvo buses in Coimbatore city: https://www.change.org/en-IN/petitions/the-transport-minister-tamil-nadu-introduction-of-volvo-city-buses-in-the-city-of-coimbatore ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] why to donate
Interesting isn't it? That one should have timed that A2K bulletin to come out exactly when the Chapter is having a fundraiser and leave people like the good Doctor here confused about all this? Seems a bit deliberately done, don't you think? Too bad I ain't an Indian citizen, Else I would have donated a tremendous amount to you guys.Will spread the word on donations though. For others, please donate (liberally);http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Donate Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 18:33:02 +0530 From: srik.r...@wikimedia.in To: nawabhaki...@ymail.com; wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] why to donate Hi Dr. Nawab Hakim,to clarify, the 2lakh that you are referring to was made as a grant to the Centre for Internet and Society, an independent organisation working out of Delhi. The Wikimedia Chapter (India) is independent society registered in India, under the Karnataka Societies Act. It is a Non-Profit entity comprising of volunteers. We rely on donations to run the Chapter. I hope this clears it out. On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 6:25 PM, Dr. Nawab Hakim nawabhaki...@ymail.com wrote: hai, why to donate to wikipedia chapter when they have 2lakh ruppes. this is cheating. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Srikanth Ramakrishnan Member of the Executive CommitteeWikimedia Chapter [India] Donate to the Wikimedia India Chapter today ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [WMIN-Members] Wikimedia India chapter IRC meetup
Reminder: The IRC starts in few mins. On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 10:50 AM, Karthik Nadar karthik...@wikimedia.inwrote: Dear all, here's a reminder about today's IRC meet from 9:00 pm to 10: 00 pm. * * *Date and Time * February 11, 2013, 9:00 pm to 10:00 pm *How to connect ? * IRC Channel http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Internet_Relay_Chat_Meets at #wikimedia-in connecthttp://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#wikimedia-in *Agenda * - Program Plan for FY 2013-14 Everyone is invited. Thanks! On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 10:40 PM, Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.comwrote: Posting content from the link the Karthik provided: http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Internet_Relay_Chats/February_11,_2013 *Date and Time* February 11, 2013, 9:00 pm to 10:00 pm *How to connect ?* IRC Channel http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Internet_Relay_Chat_Meets at #wikimedia-in connecthttp://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#wikimedia-in *Agenda* - Program Plan for FY 2013-14 On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 12:06 AM, Savithri Singh singh.savit...@gmail.com wrote: where? Savithri On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 9:29 PM, Karthik Nadar karthik...@wikimedia.inwrote: Dear friends, we, from the Wikimedia India Chapter invite you to take part in the IRC meet. The IRC meet is scheduled on 11 February 2013 (Monday) from 9:00 pm to 10:00 pm. - http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Internet_Relay_Chats/February_11,_2013 The new EC incharge, so far had no communication with the community, and hence this will be the first meet. Program plan for the year 2013-14 will be the primary agenda, and so, your plans and suggestions are welcome. Hope to see you all. Thanks and regards, Karthik Nadar, Secretary, Wikimedia India Chapter. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups wmin-members group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to wmin-members+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Savithri Singh Principal Acharya Narendra Dev College (University of Delhi) Govindpuri, Kalkaji New Delhi 110019 Ph: 011 26294542, 011 29293224 Res: 25848151, 25843496 Fax: 011 26294540, Res: 25848151 http://beta.thehindu.com/sci-tech/article397395.ece http://eduframe.net/andc http://andcollege.du.ac.in http://andc.info http://wikieducator.org/Acharya_Narendra_Dev_College http://wikieducator.org/User:Savi.odl http://wikieducator.org/India http://wikieducator.org/India/wikieducator_launch Please do not print this email unless it is absolutely necessary. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups wmin-members group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to wmin-members+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups wmin-members group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to wmin-members+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Thanks and regards, Karthik Nadar, Secretary, Wikimedia India Chapter. -- Thanks and regards, Karthik Nadar, Secretary, Wikimedia India Chapter. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] why to donate
It will be unfair to call it cheating, however - 1)Chapter is having 1.5 Lack+ Rupees in existing account. 2)Major Chapter Expenses such as Flight Tickets for AGM are covered by CIS. I am waiting for someone to answer simple query - How much money is required for next year activities? and Which activities are planned? Lets have this clarity and transparency, so together we can make sure India Chapter is also strong (financially) like other Chapters. Regards, -Abhishek Suryawanshi, On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Rudolph the Rd Nosed Reindeer rednosedr...@hotmail.com wrote: Interesting isn't it? That one should have timed that A2K bulletin to come out exactly when the Chapter is having a fundraiser and leave people like the good Doctor here confused about all this? Seems a bit deliberately done, don't you think? Too bad I ain't an Indian citizen, Else I would have donated a tremendous amount to you guys. Will spread the word on donations though. For others, please donate (liberally); http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Donate -- Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 18:33:02 +0530 From: srik.r...@wikimedia.in To: nawabhaki...@ymail.com; wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] why to donate Hi Dr. Nawab Hakim, to clarify, the 2lakh that you are referring to was made as a grant to the Centre for Internet and Society, an independent organisation working out of Delhi. The Wikimedia Chapter (India) is independent society registered in India, under the Karnataka Societies Act. It is a Non-Profit entity comprising of volunteers. We rely on donations to run the Chapter. I hope this clears it out. On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 6:25 PM, Dr. Nawab Hakim nawabhaki...@ymail.comwrote: hai, why to donate to wikipedia chapter when they have 2lakh ruppes. this is cheating. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Srikanth Ramakrishnan Member of the Executive Committee Wikimedia Chapter [India] Donate to the Wikimedia India Chapter todayhttp://wiki.wikimedia.in/Donations ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] why to donate
On 11 February 2013 22:54, Abhishek Suryawanshi i.abhishek.suryawan...@gmail.com wrote: 2)Major Chapter Expenses such as Flight Tickets for AGM are covered by CIS. I was unaware of this. Where is this from, Abhishek? Thank you. Best, Gautam http://www.akshara.org.in/ ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] [GNUnify] Wikipedia related talks and workshops at GNUnify 2013
Hi all, Here is the most current schedule of Wikipedia Language Engineering Talks and Workshops accepted at GNUnify 2013 coming up later this week! Talk session time slots are still being locked in by the organizers though. Friday February 15, 2013 * Talk: Localization Needs and Ideas - REBOOT! by Runa Bhattacharjee * Talk: Translations for Wikipedia made easy by Siebrand Mazeland, Niklas Laxström Saturday February 16, 2013 --- * Talk: How to contribute to Wikipedia in your favorite language by Alolita Sharma * Talk: Internationalizing your code with Milkshake by Santhosh Thottingal * Talk: jQuery.IME - Contributing an input method for your preferred language for the Web and Mobile by Amir Aharoni, Yuvi Panda * Workshop: Building input methods for your own language - A Hands-on Workshop by Amir Aharoni * Talk: Right-to-left: Making your websites and application usable for speakers of Arabic, Hebrew and Urdu by Amir Aharoni Sunday February 17, 2013 --- * Workshop: Translation sprint for Wikipedia, OpenStreetMap and more by Siebrand Mazeland, Niklas Laxström * Workshop: Building Wikipedia Gadgets Made Easy by Yuvi Panda, Sucheta Ghoshal, Kothari Harsh If you are attending any of the talks, do add your name at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Events/GNUnify You may also want to register on the GNUnify website - http://gnunify.in/2013/register/delegate Thanks. See you at GNUnify! -- Warm Regards, *Pratik Lahoti* User:BPositive http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BPositive ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] why to donate
Abhishek, I'm not sure where you are getting this information from. Please get your facts straight and stop speaking for the chapter. If you have a question, you can ask it in the form of a question instead of making unsubstantiated claims on a public mailing list, which is frankly unproductive since it requires us to spend time to send out clarifications. In case you are curious about the state of our finances, please refer to our annual report which is linked from the main page of our website ( wiki.wikimedia.in) in compliance with the requirements of the Wikimedia Foundation and Karnataka law. Regards, Karthik Nadar, Secretary, Wikimedia India Chapter. On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 10:54 PM, Abhishek Suryawanshi i.abhishek.suryawan...@gmail.com wrote: It will be unfair to call it cheating, however - 1)Chapter is having 1.5 Lack+ Rupees in existing account. 2)Major Chapter Expenses such as Flight Tickets for AGM are covered by CIS . I am waiting for someone to answer simple query - How much money is required for next year activities? and Which activities are planned? Lets have this clarity and transparency, so together we can make sure India Chapter is also strong (financially) like other Chapters. Regards, -Abhishek Suryawanshi, On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Rudolph the Rd Nosed Reindeer rednosedr...@hotmail.com wrote: Interesting isn't it? That one should have timed that A2K bulletin to come out exactly when the Chapter is having a fundraiser and leave people like the good Doctor here confused about all this? Seems a bit deliberately done, don't you think? Too bad I ain't an Indian citizen, Else I would have donated a tremendous amount to you guys. Will spread the word on donations though. For others, please donate (liberally); http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Donate -- Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 18:33:02 +0530 From: srik.r...@wikimedia.in To: nawabhaki...@ymail.com; wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] why to donate Hi Dr. Nawab Hakim, to clarify, the 2lakh that you are referring to was made as a grant to the Centre for Internet and Society, an independent organisation working out of Delhi. The Wikimedia Chapter (India) is independent society registered in India, under the Karnataka Societies Act. It is a Non-Profit entity comprising of volunteers. We rely on donations to run the Chapter. I hope this clears it out. On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 6:25 PM, Dr. Nawab Hakim nawabhaki...@ymail.comwrote: hai, why to donate to wikipedia chapter when they have 2lakh ruppes. this is cheating. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Srikanth Ramakrishnan Member of the Executive Committee Wikimedia Chapter [India] Donate to the Wikimedia India Chapter todayhttp://wiki.wikimedia.in/Donations ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] why to donate
Abhishek, how dramatic of you!?!? I thought you were a Wikipedian but evidwntly you have missed out on an important concept called Verifiability. Please substantiate your claim with a proper source. Also the Annual General Meeting,aka AGM was last held in September 2012 which would imply that the next one would be a year later. Where does flight tickets for something NINE WHOLE MONTHS AWAY come from? From: i.abhishek.suryawan...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 22:54:41 +0530 To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] why to donate It will be unfair to call it cheating, however - 1)Chapter is having 1.5 Lack+ Rupees in existing account. 2)Major Chapter Expenses such as Flight Tickets for AGM are covered by CIS. I am waiting for someone to answer simple query - How much money is required for next year activities? and Which activities are planned? Lets have this clarity and transparency, so together we can make sure India Chapter is also strong (financially) like other Chapters. Regards, -Abhishek Suryawanshi, On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Rudolph the Rd Nosed Reindeer rednosedr...@hotmail.com wrote: Interesting isn't it? That one should have timed that A2K bulletin to come out exactly when the Chapter is having a fundraiser and leave people like the good Doctor here confused about all this? Seems a bit deliberately done, don't you think? Too bad I ain't an Indian citizen, Else I would have donated a tremendous amount to you guys.Will spread the word on donations though. For others, please donate (liberally); http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Donate Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 18:33:02 +0530 From: srik.r...@wikimedia.in To: nawabhaki...@ymail.com; wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] why to donate Hi Dr. Nawab Hakim,to clarify, the 2lakh that you are referring to was made as a grant to the Centre for Internet and Society, an independent organisation working out of Delhi. The Wikimedia Chapter (India) is independent society registered in India, under the Karnataka Societies Act. It is a Non-Profit entity comprising of volunteers. We rely on donations to run the Chapter. I hope this clears it out. On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 6:25 PM, Dr. Nawab Hakim nawabhaki...@ymail.com wrote: hai, why to donate to wikipedia chapter when they have 2lakh ruppes. this is cheating. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Srikanth Ramakrishnan Member of the Executive CommitteeWikimedia Chapter [India] Donate to the Wikimedia India Chapter today ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] why to donate
Dear Abhishek, On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 10:54 PM, Abhishek Suryawanshi i.abhishek.suryawan...@gmail.com wrote: It will be unfair to call it cheating, however - Writing something baseless is completely unfair. That too you are hinting as cheating which is absolutely wrong and offending. 1)Chapter is having 1.5 Lack+ Rupees in existing account. I don't know from where you have these numbers. I assume if you know these numbers, you will be knowing the expenditures as well as provisions for some future events/activities. If you give that information too, then it will be a fair statement. 2)Major Chapter Expenses such as Flight Tickets for AGM are covered by CIS. Absolutely wrong information you have got. Looks like it is time you dump your info-providers (खबरी लोग ) :-) I am waiting for someone to answer simple query - How much money is required for next year activities? and Which activities are planned? Grant requests are always on public wiki and the numbers are always open to all for discussions. You will find these details in the upcoming requests. Asaf has already indicated the same on the list. If you have any activities planned, please let us know. We will plan the resources accordingly (budgets, people etc) Same request also goes to all the people in the community. Please let us know what you want to do. We are here to support you in whatever best way we can. Do not hesitate to ask for support. Lets have this clarity and transparency, so together we can make sure India Chapter is also strong (financially) like other Chapters. The way you expect clarity and transparency from chapter, chapter also seeks the same thing from you. Please be open and transparent to the community. The more you become transparent, it is better for all. All the chapter reports are open. However, there could be some regulatory limitations/restrictions for the same. Compared to an informal club or group activities, chapter has far more regulatory compliances. Within that, we do our best to help various events and activities. Please remember that chapter is representation of the community and works for the community. All these activities are also done voluntarily- just like community does. If community shows trust and confidence in the chapter, it will become strong and in turn community becomes stronger. Regards, -Sudhanwa [snip] ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] why to donate
Rightly said Mr. Secretary. Abhishek, areyou a chapteer Member? if,justify itwith some work. Else, Stop speakingfor the CHAPTER. Re Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 23:44:25 +0530 From: karthik...@wikimedia.in To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] why to donate Abhishek, I'm not sure where you are getting this information from. Please get your facts straight and stop speaking for the chapter. If you have a question, you can ask it in the form of a question instead of making unsubstantiated claims on a public mailing list, which is frankly unproductive since it requires us to spend time to send out clarifications. In case you are curious about the state of our finances, please refer to our annual report which is linked from the main page of our website (wiki.wikimedia.in) in compliance with the requirements of the Wikimedia Foundation and Karnataka law. Regards, Karthik Nadar,Secretary, Wikimedia India Chapter. On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 10:54 PM, Abhishek Suryawanshi i.abhishek.suryawan...@gmail.com wrote: It will be unfair to call it cheating, however - 1)Chapter is having 1.5 Lack+ Rupees in existing account. 2)Major Chapter Expenses such as Flight Tickets for AGM are covered by CIS. I am waiting for someone to answer simple query - How much money is required for next year activities? and Which activities are planned? Lets have this clarity and transparency, so together we can make sure India Chapter is also strong (financially) like other Chapters. Regards, -Abhishek Suryawanshi, On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Rudolph the Rd Nosed Reindeer rednosedr...@hotmail.com wrote: Interesting isn't it? That one should have timed that A2K bulletin to come out exactly when the Chapter is having a fundraiser and leave people like the good Doctor here confused about all this? Seems a bit deliberately done, don't you think? Too bad I ain't an Indian citizen, Else I would have donated a tremendous amount to you guys.Will spread the word on donations though. For others, please donate (liberally); http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Donate Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 18:33:02 +0530 From: srik.r...@wikimedia.in To: nawabhaki...@ymail.com; wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] why to donate Hi Dr. Nawab Hakim,to clarify, the 2lakh that you are referring to was made as a grant to the Centre for Internet and Society, an independent organisation working out of Delhi. The Wikimedia Chapter (India) is independent society registered in India, under the Karnataka Societies Act. It is a Non-Profit entity comprising of volunteers. We rely on donations to run the Chapter. I hope this clears it out. On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 6:25 PM, Dr. Nawab Hakim nawabhaki...@ymail.com wrote: hai, why to donate to wikipedia chapter when they have 2lakh ruppes. this is cheating. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Srikanth Ramakrishnan Member of the Executive CommitteeWikimedia Chapter [India] Donate to the Wikimedia India Chapter today ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] why to donate
Well said Me. President. Good job! From: sudhanwa@gmail.com Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 00:23:41 +0530 To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] why to donate Dear Abhishek, On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 10:54 PM, Abhishek Suryawanshi i.abhishek.suryawan...@gmail.com wrote: It will be unfair to call it cheating, however - Writing something baseless is completely unfair. That too you are hinting as cheating which is absolutely wrong and offending. 1)Chapter is having 1.5 Lack+ Rupees in existing account. I don't know from where you have these numbers. I assume if you know these numbers, you will be knowing the expenditures as well as provisions for some future events/activities. If you give that information too, then it will be a fair statement. 2)Major Chapter Expenses such as Flight Tickets for AGM are covered by CIS. Absolutely wrong information you have got. Looks like it is time you dump your info-providers (खबरी लोग ) :-) I am waiting for someone to answer simple query - How much money is required for next year activities? and Which activities are planned? Grant requests are always on public wiki and the numbers are always open to all for discussions. You will find these details in the upcoming requests. Asaf has already indicated the same on the list. If you have any activities planned, please let us know. We will plan the resources accordingly (budgets, people etc) Same request also goes to all the people in the community. Please let us know what you want to do. We are here to support you in whatever best way we can. Do not hesitate to ask for support. Lets have this clarity and transparency, so together we can make sure India Chapter is also strong (financially) like other Chapters. The way you expect clarity and transparency from chapter, chapter also seeks the same thing from you. Please be open and transparent to the community. The more you become transparent, it is better for all. All the chapter reports are open. However, there could be some regulatory limitations/restrictions for the same. Compared to an informal club or group activities, chapter has far more regulatory compliances. Within that, we do our best to help various events and activities. Please remember that chapter is representation of the community and works for the community. All these activities are also done voluntarily- just like community does. If community shows trust and confidence in the chapter, it will become strong and in turn community becomes stronger. Regards, -Sudhanwa [snip] ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] why to donate
On 11 Feb 2013 17:25, Abhishek Suryawanshi i.abhishek.suryawan...@gmail.com wrote: It will be unfair to call it cheating, however - 1)Chapter is having 1.5 Lack+ Rupees in existing account. And what do you think could be done by that HUGE AMOUNT of 1.5+ Indian Rupees? I think chapter has its office in Bangalore and based on my experience, I know that any property requires paying off few bills, e.g. electricity, water, property tax, tel/internet (if it has got) and these things are not so cheap in Today's India as they were in my days of teen (20 years ago). 2)Major Chapter Expenses such as Flight Tickets for AGM are covered by CIS. I qlways thought WMIN and CIS were two seperate entities and their finances are dealt seperately. Will love you elaborating more on this. I am waiting for someone to answer simple query - How much money is required for next year activities? and Which activities are planned? I don't think this is a simple query Abhishek. Have you seen chapter website? I'll strongly recomend you visit it. There is a link to Grants page in navigation menu. If you visit that page, you'll realise that chapter has funded several activities carried out by communities. Do you think will it be possible for chapter to tell you today that how many grant requests it is going to get this year? How much ammount will it be requested from various communities? Or do you suggest chapter decide a figure today and put a cap on grants and other expenses once that amount is used? This is just one example, don't take it as the only expense of chapter. Lets have this clarity and transparency, so together we can make sure India Chapter is also strong (financially) like other Chapters. Regards, -Abhishek Suryawanshi, On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune Regards, Dhaval (on my own behalf) Disclaimer: I have no formal tie with the chapter nor with CIS. I have no financial inrerest with either of them personally. On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Rudolph the Rd Nosed Reindeer rednosedr...@hotmail.com wrote: Interesting isn't it? That one should have timed that A2K bulletin to come out exactly when the Chapter is having a fundraiser and leave people like the good Doctor here confused about all this? Seems a bit deliberately done, don't you think? Too bad I ain't an Indian citizen, Else I would have donated a tremendous amount to you guys. Will spread the word on donations though. For others, please donate (liberally); http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Donate Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 18:33:02 +0530 From: srik.r...@wikimedia.in To: nawabhaki...@ymail.com; wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] why to donate Hi Dr. Nawab Hakim, to clarify, the 2lakh that you are referring to was made as a grant to the Centre for Internet and Society, an independent organisation working out of Delhi. The Wikimedia Chapter (India) is independent society registered in India, under the Karnataka Societies Act. It is a Non-Profit entity comprising of volunteers. We rely on donations to run the Chapter. I hope this clears it out. On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 6:25 PM, Dr. Nawab Hakim nawabhaki...@ymail.com wrote: hai, why to donate to wikipedia chapter when they have 2lakh ruppes. this is cheating. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Srikanth Ramakrishnan Member of the Executive Committee Wikimedia Chapter [India] Donate to the Wikimedia India Chapter today ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] why to donate
I meant Board Meeting. Sorry for confusion and apologies for same. Chapter flight tickets and travel expenses are covered by CIS, Correct me if I am wrong??? -Abhishek Suryawanshi, On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 12:30 AM, Dhaval S. Vyas dsv...@gmail.com wrote: On 11 Feb 2013 17:25, Abhishek Suryawanshi i.abhishek.suryawan...@gmail.com wrote: It will be unfair to call it cheating, however - 1)Chapter is having 1.5 Lack+ Rupees in existing account. And what do you think could be done by that HUGE AMOUNT of 1.5+ Indian Rupees? I think chapter has its office in Bangalore and based on my experience, I know that any property requires paying off few bills, e.g. electricity, water, property tax, tel/internet (if it has got) and these things are not so cheap in Today's India as they were in my days of teen (20 years ago). 2)Major Chapter Expenses such as Flight Tickets for AGM are covered by CIS. I qlways thought WMIN and CIS were two seperate entities and their finances are dealt seperately. Will love you elaborating more on this. I am waiting for someone to answer simple query - How much money is required for next year activities? and Which activities are planned? I don't think this is a simple query Abhishek. Have you seen chapter website? I'll strongly recomend you visit it. There is a link to Grants page in navigation menu. If you visit that page, you'll realise that chapter has funded several activities carried out by communities. Do you think will it be possible for chapter to tell you today that how many grant requests it is going to get this year? How much ammount will it be requested from various communities? Or do you suggest chapter decide a figure today and put a cap on grants and other expenses once that amount is used? This is just one example, don't take it as the only expense of chapter. Lets have this clarity and transparency, so together we can make sure India Chapter is also strong (financially) like other Chapters. Regards, -Abhishek Suryawanshi, On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune Regards, Dhaval (on my own behalf) Disclaimer: I have no formal tie with the chapter nor with CIS. I have no financial inrerest with either of them personally. On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Rudolph the Rd Nosed Reindeer rednosedr...@hotmail.com wrote: Interesting isn't it? That one should have timed that A2K bulletin to come out exactly when the Chapter is having a fundraiser and leave people like the good Doctor here confused about all this? Seems a bit deliberately done, don't you think? Too bad I ain't an Indian citizen, Else I would have donated a tremendous amount to you guys. Will spread the word on donations though. For others, please donate (liberally); http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Donate Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 18:33:02 +0530 From: srik.r...@wikimedia.in To: nawabhaki...@ymail.com; wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] why to donate Hi Dr. Nawab Hakim, to clarify, the 2lakh that you are referring to was made as a grant to the Centre for Internet and Society, an independent organisation working out of Delhi. The Wikimedia Chapter (India) is independent society registered in India, under the Karnataka Societies Act. It is a Non-Profit entity comprising of volunteers. We rely on donations to run the Chapter. I hope this clears it out. On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 6:25 PM, Dr. Nawab Hakim nawabhaki...@ymail.com wrote: hai, why to donate to wikipedia chapter when they have 2lakh ruppes. this is cheating. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Srikanth Ramakrishnan Member of the Executive Committee Wikimedia Chapter [India] Donate to the Wikimedia India Chapter today ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [A2K]: The Access to Knowledge - Bulletin - January '13
Hi, Having tried to leave before, I concur with planemad. Its easier to leave this list than it is to quit Wikipedia :) Pradeep Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India chapter IRC meetup
On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 9:29 PM, Karthik Nadar karthik...@wikimedia.in wrote: The new EC incharge, so far had no communication with the community, and hence this will be the first meet. Program plan for the year 2013-14 will be the primary agenda, and so, your plans and suggestions are welcome. I am not sure whether the logs from the meeting will be posted (that wasn't discussed in the meeting itself). However, for meetings that are organized later on, would the team consider using something like MeetBot (http://meetbot.debian.net/Manual.html) to keep logs and post them ? IRC is very non-inclusive - either you are online and participating or, you aren't. Posting the logs to a list/page provides an opportunity to participate for those who couldn't make it. -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay https://twitter.com/#!/sankarshan ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] why to donate
Abhishek, where are you getting these ideas from? As our Secretary stated, please stop speaking for us. Substantiate your claim that CIS is funding us. The Chapter is financially accountable to it's MEMBERS, and will put up all Grants, and other details in public. Running a society in India has a thousand formalities with various Government departments. On 2/12/13, Abhishek Suryawanshi i.abhishek.suryawan...@gmail.com wrote: I meant Board Meeting. Sorry for confusion and apologies for same. Chapter flight tickets and travel expenses are covered by CIS, Correct me if I am wrong??? -Abhishek Suryawanshi, On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 12:30 AM, Dhaval S. Vyas dsv...@gmail.com wrote: On 11 Feb 2013 17:25, Abhishek Suryawanshi i.abhishek.suryawan...@gmail.com wrote: It will be unfair to call it cheating, however - 1)Chapter is having 1.5 Lack+ Rupees in existing account. And what do you think could be done by that HUGE AMOUNT of 1.5+ Indian Rupees? I think chapter has its office in Bangalore and based on my experience, I know that any property requires paying off few bills, e.g. electricity, water, property tax, tel/internet (if it has got) and these things are not so cheap in Today's India as they were in my days of teen (20 years ago). 2)Major Chapter Expenses such as Flight Tickets for AGM are covered by CIS. I qlways thought WMIN and CIS were two seperate entities and their finances are dealt seperately. Will love you elaborating more on this. I am waiting for someone to answer simple query - How much money is required for next year activities? and Which activities are planned? I don't think this is a simple query Abhishek. Have you seen chapter website? I'll strongly recomend you visit it. There is a link to Grants page in navigation menu. If you visit that page, you'll realise that chapter has funded several activities carried out by communities. Do you think will it be possible for chapter to tell you today that how many grant requests it is going to get this year? How much ammount will it be requested from various communities? Or do you suggest chapter decide a figure today and put a cap on grants and other expenses once that amount is used? This is just one example, don't take it as the only expense of chapter. Lets have this clarity and transparency, so together we can make sure India Chapter is also strong (financially) like other Chapters. Regards, -Abhishek Suryawanshi, On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune Regards, Dhaval (on my own behalf) Disclaimer: I have no formal tie with the chapter nor with CIS. I have no financial inrerest with either of them personally. On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Rudolph the Rd Nosed Reindeer rednosedr...@hotmail.com wrote: Interesting isn't it? That one should have timed that A2K bulletin to come out exactly when the Chapter is having a fundraiser and leave people like the good Doctor here confused about all this? Seems a bit deliberately done, don't you think? Too bad I ain't an Indian citizen, Else I would have donated a tremendous amount to you guys. Will spread the word on donations though. For others, please donate (liberally); http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Donate Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 18:33:02 +0530 From: srik.r...@wikimedia.in To: nawabhaki...@ymail.com; wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] why to donate Hi Dr. Nawab Hakim, to clarify, the 2lakh that you are referring to was made as a grant to the Centre for Internet and Society, an independent organisation working out of Delhi. The Wikimedia Chapter (India) is independent society registered in India, under the Karnataka Societies Act. It is a Non-Profit entity comprising of volunteers. We rely on donations to run the Chapter. I hope this clears it out. On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 6:25 PM, Dr. Nawab Hakim nawabhaki...@ymail.com wrote: hai, why to donate to wikipedia chapter when they have 2lakh ruppes. this is cheating. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Srikanth Ramakrishnan Member of the Executive Committee Wikimedia Chapter [India] Donate to the Wikimedia India Chapter today ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India chapter IRC meetup
It is here: http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Internet_Relay_Chats/February_11,_2013#Logs Kathik has posted it last night ;) On 12-Feb-2013, at 9:10 AM, sankarshan wrote: On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 9:29 PM, Karthik Nadar karthik...@wikimedia.in wrote: The new EC incharge, so far had no communication with the community, and hence this will be the first meet. Program plan for the year 2013-14 will be the primary agenda, and so, your plans and suggestions are welcome. I am not sure whether the logs from the meeting will be posted (that wasn't discussed in the meeting itself). However, for meetings that are organized later on, would the team consider using something like MeetBot (http://meetbot.debian.net/Manual.html) to keep logs and post them ? IRC is very non-inclusive - either you are online and participating or, you aren't. Posting the logs to a list/page provides an opportunity to participate for those who couldn't make it. -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay https://twitter.com/#!/sankarshan ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India chapter IRC meetup
It is here: http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Internet_Relay_Chats/February_11,_2013#Logs Kathik has posted in last night ; On 12-Feb-2013, at 9:10 AM, sankarshan wrote: On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 9:29 PM, Karthik Nadar karthik...@wikimedia.in wrote: The new EC incharge, so far had no communication with the community, and hence this will be the first meet. Program plan for the year 2013-14 will be the primary agenda, and so, your plans and suggestions are welcome. I am not sure whether the logs from the meeting will be posted (that wasn't discussed in the meeting itself). However, for meetings that are organized later on, would the team consider using something like MeetBot (http://meetbot.debian.net/Manual.html) to keep logs and post them ? IRC is very non-inclusive - either you are online and participating or, you aren't. Posting the logs to a list/page provides an opportunity to participate for those who couldn't make it. -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay https://twitter.com/#!/sankarshan ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India chapter IRC meetup
Don't worry sankarshan, the logs for any EC led Community IRC will be on the Chapter Wiki. It'll be put up either by Karthik, or me. Thank you for your suggestion, I will definitely look into it. On 2/12/13, sankarshan foss.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 9:29 PM, Karthik Nadar karthik...@wikimedia.in wrote: The new EC incharge, so far had no communication with the community, and hence this will be the first meet. Program plan for the year 2013-14 will be the primary agenda, and so, your plans and suggestions are welcome. I am not sure whether the logs from the meeting will be posted (that wasn't discussed in the meeting itself). However, for meetings that are organized later on, would the team consider using something like MeetBot (http://meetbot.debian.net/Manual.html) to keep logs and post them ? IRC is very non-inclusive - either you are online and participating or, you aren't. Posting the logs to a list/page provides an opportunity to participate for those who couldn't make it. -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay https://twitter.com/#!/sankarshan ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Srikanth Ramakrishnan Member of the Executive Committee Wikimedia Chapter [India] Donate to the Wikimedia India Chapter todayhttp://wiki.wikimedia.in/Donations ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India chapter IRC meetup
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Subhashish Panigrahi subhash...@cis-india.org wrote: It is here: http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Internet_Relay_Chats/February_11,_2013#Logs Thank you. As you'll note, these are the raw logs (probably off an IRC client). MeetBot uses a syntax that allows you to take notes, assign actions and so forth. http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-02-11/fedora_docs_https:fedoraproject.orgwikidocs_project_meetings.2013-02-11-14.22.html is a random example of how it appears. Kathik has posted it last night ;) -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay https://twitter.com/#!/sankarshan ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] why to donate
I would rather give the last word to Theo. He is closely involved with the India chapter, he is the figurehead of the Indian community, he ran for many kind of board positions everywhere and ALMOST WON but totally lost and he has worked with the Wiki Foundation for YEARS - although mostly unpaid apart from that one well paid job with them in the beautiful city of San Fransico for a few months, and he did tell me he was in the process of negotiating something for himself in India (or was it Brazil? or both?) when I last checked. To be fair, I don't think anything has worked out for him, dunno why. Theo where do all these flight tickets come from? Why is the chapter sitting on so much money? How is CIS doing BAD STUFF here? Who is good and who is BAD? Etc. Very difficult to level baseless accusations and create noise without clear direction. Thank you. From: Rudolph the Rd Nosed Reindeer rednosedr...@hotmail.com To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Monday, 11 February 2013 11:52 PM Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] why to donate Abhishek, how dramatic of you!?!? I thought you were a Wikipedian but evidwntly you have missed out on an important concept called Verifiability. Please substantiate your claim with a proper source. Also the Annual General Meeting,aka AGM was last held in September 2012 which would imply that the next one would be a year later. Where does flight tickets for something NINE WHOLE MONTHS AWAY come from? From: i.abhishek.suryawan...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 22:54:41 +0530 To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] why to donate It will be unfair to call it cheating, however - 1)Chapter is having 1.5 Lack+ Rupees in existing account. 2)Major Chapter Expenses such as Flight Tickets for AGM are covered by CIS. I am waiting for someone to answer simple query - How much money is required for next year activities? and Which activities are planned? Lets have this clarity and transparency, so together we can make sure India Chapter is also strong (financially) like other Chapters. Regards, -Abhishek Suryawanshi, On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Rudolph the Rd Nosed Reindeer rednosedr...@hotmail.com wrote: Interesting isn't it? That one should have timed that A2K bulletin to come out exactly when the Chapter is having a fundraiser and leave people like the good Doctor here confused about all this? Seems a bit deliberately done, don't you think? Too bad I ain't an Indian citizen, Else I would have donated a tremendous amount to you guys. Will spread the word on donations though. For others, please donate (liberally); http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Donate Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 18:33:02 +0530 From: srik.r...@wikimedia.in To: nawabhaki...@ymail.com; wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] why to donate Hi Dr. Nawab Hakim, to clarify, the 2lakh that you are referring to was made as a grant to the Centre for Internet and Society, an independent organisation working out of Delhi. The Wikimedia Chapter (India) is independent society registered in India, under the Karnataka Societies Act. It is a Non-Profit entity comprising of volunteers. We rely on donations to run the Chapter. I hope this clears it out. On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 6:25 PM, Dr. Nawab Hakim nawabhaki...@ymail.com wrote: hai, why to donate to wikipedia chapter when they have 2lakh ruppes. this is cheating. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Srikanth Ramakrishnan Member of the Executive Committee Wikimedia Chapter [India] Donate to the Wikimedia India Chapter today ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] why to donate
Humpf. Theo President. From: Rudolph the Rd Nosed Reindeer rednosedr...@hotmail.com To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Tuesday, 12 February 2013 12:29 AM Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] why to donate Well said Me. President. Good job! From: sudhanwa@gmail.com Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 00:23:41 +0530 To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] why to donate Dear Abhishek, On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 10:54 PM, Abhishek Suryawanshi i.abhishek.suryawan...@gmail.com wrote: It will be unfair to call it cheating, however - Writing something baseless is completely unfair. That too you are hinting as cheating which is absolutely wrong and offending. 1)Chapter is having 1.5 Lack+ Rupees in existing account. I don't know from where you have these numbers. I assume if you know these numbers, you will be knowing the expenditures as well as provisions for some future events/activities. If you give that information too, then it will be a fair statement. 2)Major Chapter Expenses such as Flight Tickets for AGM are covered by CIS. Absolutely wrong information you have got. Looks like it is time you dump your info-providers (खबरी लोग ) :-) I am waiting for someone to answer simple query - How much money is required for next year activities? and Which activities are planned? Grant requests are always on public wiki and the numbers are always open to all for discussions. You will find these details in the upcoming requests. Asaf has already indicated the same on the list. If you have any activities planned, please let us know. We will plan the resources accordingly (budgets, people etc) Same request also goes to all the people in the community. Please let us know what you want to do. We are here to support you in whatever best way we can. Do not hesitate to ask for support. Lets have this clarity and transparency, so together we can make sure India Chapter is also strong (financially) like other Chapters. The way you expect clarity and transparency from chapter, chapter also seeks the same thing from you. Please be open and transparent to the community. The more you become transparent, it is better for all. All the chapter reports are open. However, there could be some regulatory limitations/restrictions for the same. Compared to an informal club or group activities, chapter has far more regulatory compliances. Within that, we do our best to help various events and activities. Please remember that chapter is representation of the community and works for the community. All these activities are also done voluntarily- just like community does. If community shows trust and confidence in the chapter, it will become strong and in turn community becomes stronger. Regards, -Sudhanwa [snip] ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] [GNUnify] Wikipedia related talks and workshops at GNUnify 2013
Hi all, Here is the most current schedule of Wikipedia Language Engineering Talks and Workshops accepted at GNUnify 2013 coming up later this week! Talk session time slots are still being locked in by the organizers though. Friday February 15, 2013 * Talk: Localization Needs and Ideas - REBOOT! by Runa Bhattacharjee * Talk: Translations for Wikipedia made easy by Siebrand Mazeland, Niklas Laxström Saturday February 16, 2013 --- * Talk: How to contribute to Wikipedia in your favorite language by Alolita Sharma * Talk: Internationalizing your code with Milkshake by Santhosh Thottingal * Talk: jQuery.IME - Contributing an input method for your preferred language for the Web and Mobile by Amir Aharoni, Yuvi Panda * Workshop: Building input methods for your own language - A Hands-on Workshop by Amir Aharoni * Talk: Right-to-left: Making your websites and application usable for speakers of Arabic, Hebrew and Urdu by Amir Aharoni Sunday February 17, 2013 --- * Workshop: Translation sprint for Wikipedia, OpenStreetMap and more by Siebrand Mazeland, Niklas Laxström * Workshop: Building Wikipedia Gadgets Made Easy by Yuvi Panda, Sucheta Ghoshal, Kothari Harsh If you are attending any of the talks, do add your name at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Events/GNUnify You may also want to register on the GNUnify website - http://gnunify.in/2013/register/delegate Thanks. See you at GNUnify! -- Warm Regards, *Pratik Lahoti* User:BPositive http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BPositive ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India chapter IRC meetup
True. It is high time to do that. I have been trying to find a good replacement for last 2-3 months. Finally I found one of my colleague who is very excited to pursue. He is actively supporting me for the Feb event. After the Feb Event, I will be proposing his name and I will be withdrawing. we can select best among proposals. Best Regards, RadhaKrishna On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 9:20 AM, sankarshan foss.mailingli...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Subhashish Panigrahi subhash...@cis-india.org wrote: It is here: http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Internet_Relay_Chats/February_11,_2013#Logs Thank you. As you'll note, these are the raw logs (probably off an IRC client). MeetBot uses a syntax that allows you to take notes, assign actions and so forth. http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-02-11/fedora_docs_https:fedoraproject.orgwikidocs_project_meetings.2013-02-11-14.22.html is a random example of how it appears. Kathik has posted it last night ;) -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay https://twitter.com/#!/sankarshan ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] why to donate
That is enough, I guess. Please take a breath, and rethink why you are on this mailing list of the Wikimedia India Community. If you don't want to be part of the community, please unsubscribe. If your intention is to offend others, please unsubscribe, because you are not being helpful. If your intention is to discuss, and not act, please leave; you are not being helpful. Put your feet where your mouth is so to speak. It saves you and the subscribers a lot of headaches. Cheers! Siebrand ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
