Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests
Well, shamelessly because that's what MOST of my customers run. If I used something only a fraction of them used, then I might not be aware how certain things look and feel to them; as seems to be the case here. Friendly Regards, Mike -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 8:48 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests That would be your problem. I use Firefox 99% of the time, Chrome if I want a different browser (Firefox forgets that cache is temporary). I have the same problem with IE8. I don't think shamelessly is the word I would choose, though. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. --- Winston Churchill On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 9:44 PM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote: Josh: I am shamelessly running IE8. Noscript appears to be an add-on for Firefox. Do you run Firefox? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 8:35 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests Tools - Addons Or run firefox with a new profile to be certain. Run firefox.exe -profilemanager New profile Run speed test Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. --- Winston Churchill On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 9:32 PM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote: Where do I check for that? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 8:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests I'm betting you have NoScript on. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. --- Winston Churchill On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 9:29 PM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote: But it appears to want Firefox or SVG? When I run it, this happens on this netbook. No SVG Capabilities detected! That sucks! This speed test is MUCH prettier if you have a browser capable of SVG! You can remedy this in any one of three ways: 1.Download the Adobe SVG plugin from here. 2.Download the latest version of Mozilla Firefox from here. 3.Download the latest version of Opera from Opera. Starting Speed Test... Request Latency: ~114.2 ms Test Download Size: 1.2 MB Test Upload Size: 126.0 KB Upload Speed: 407.7 Kb/s Download Speed: 7.4 Mb/s Speed Test Finished. Estimated Line Type: 10M Ethernet ( ~291.2 x faster than avg. modem speeds) Time to load an average web page: ~0.1 s Time to download 10MB file: ~9.5 s Friendly Regards, Mike -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 8:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests Doesn't appear it's a demo. Is there any configuration to it? Look at the URL... http://speed.inxwireless.com/NEW/AJAXOmeter-1.0.1/ajaxometer.php Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. --- Winston Churchill On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 9:19 PM, Bret Clark bcl...@spectraaccess.com wrote: Wait a minute...you ran the demo...that's not a real test, just shows what it's output looks like. Here is one that is running http://www.gunix.co.uk/speedtest/ajax/ajaxometer.php On 05/13/2010 08:32 PM, Larry A Weidig wrote: Wow, I knew our connections were fast - now I need to figure out what to charge! Just downloaded the entire Internet in less than a second :) Not a very accurate tool! * Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net) * Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/ * (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area * (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bret Clark Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 5:26 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests I didn't find speedtest mini to be that accurate, although it's be over a year since I last tried it. I actually found ajaxometer to be much better. http://sourceforge.net/projects/ajaxometer/ On 05/13/2010 06:24 PM, Michael Baird wrote: We are a speedtest.net host, so customers who head to speedtest anyway are redirected to a local httpd on our network, geographical competitors get sent to our network as
Re: [WISPA] Verizon to consider licensing 4g spectrum to rural carriers
I tell my customers they get RickG :) On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 11:01 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: Lets just jump to 36G and scoop them all. See how the like those apples! - Original Message - From: Drew Lentz d...@drewlentz.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 7:31 PM Subject: [WISPA] Verizon to consider licensing 4g spectrum to rural carriers I wonder if they are including WISPs in their rural carriers plan? Nevertheless, I¹m sure if the price is right you too can operate on 4g! Link pulled from another mailing list: http://www.telecompetitor.com/verizon-considering-licensing-4g-spectrum-to-r ural-wireless-carriers/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Verizon to consider licensing 4g spectrum to rural carriers
That's a good one! So your name is really RickG? I tried to change my name to B Smiley-Face B once but the judge said I was too grumpy. Oh well. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 12:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon to consider licensing 4g spectrum to rural carriers I tell my customers they get RickG :) On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 11:01 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: Lets just jump to 36G and scoop them all. See how the like those apples! - Original Message - From: Drew Lentz d...@drewlentz.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 7:31 PM Subject: [WISPA] Verizon to consider licensing 4g spectrum to rural carriers I wonder if they are including WISPs in their rural carriers plan? Nevertheless, I¹m sure if the price is right you too can operate on 4g! Link pulled from another mailing list: http://www.telecompetitor.com/verizon-considering-licensing-4g-spectrum-to-r ural-wireless-carriers/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Issues with sending email with Everyone.net servers
We have been having alot of problems sending email through Everyone.Net's servers. Lots of server rejections, delivery resource unavailable type messages. Anyone going through the same problems? Here's a message sent by our tech to their tech support this morning. This message outlines our problems with them. - Original Message - From: Justin Mann To: Everyone.net Technical Support ; Unwired West Cc: Mark Nash Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 10:09 AM Subject: Continued issues with sending email with Everyone.net servers Hello, We are getting more Delivery Resource Unavailable errors from the Everyone.net SMTP servers today. This is on both shared-svc1 and shared-svc2. We would like help on why this is happening, and why we have issues sending email intermittently. I know for a fact this is an issue with the everyone.net servers; the error message is being returned from the servers themselves, after an SMTP session has been established. See the attached image; that is the error message coming from Everyone.net's servers. We didn't have many issues from this in April, but it was a nightmare earlier in the year. When email does not work, it makes it very difficult to do business. I am sure you understand our frustrations. So far, all suggestions given to us from Everyone.net have not worked. We have exhausted all potential options on our ends for reasons that we could be causing the errors. We have used different workstations, different operating systems, different mail clients, different ISPs, different email domains. We have even used different SMTP servers per your suggestion. When we use third-party SMTP servers we do not have this problem, ever. However, that is not a long-term solution. Please advise. Also, please look at the attached image. This is the type of error message we get, frequently, with both shared-svc1 and now shared-svc2. attachment: everyoneerror.jpg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] T- minus 1 hour
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[WISPA] Rad-Win 2000 firmware upgrades
Danger, Will Robinson, Danger. For those of you who have the Rad-Win 2000 series and are looking forward to the firmware upgrade to take them to 100Mb Fdx. Be careful. The firmware came out and I (stupidly) applied it. IT went on without a hitch and rebooted the radios. They came up and started passing traffic. No improvement in speed (rats). Then one end locked up. I rebooted it and it started working. HMMM! That's concerning. 1hour later the other end locked up. Hmmm! Call Tech support. They had me do a hardware Inventory and found out that my Rad-wins are hardware version 3 the upgrade was for hardware version 4 and above. Nowhere did it state this and nowhere did the firmware updater check to make sure that I had new enough units. Why did the firmware go on in the first place if they weren't compatible? Now tech support is working on how to downgrade. What I get for wanting more for free and not waiting for more testing. P.S. I love my Rad-Win units. They have worked 110% of the time and very consistent. Steve Barnes Manager PCS-WIN RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Issues with sending email with Everyone.net servers
Good luck getting a response. The problems we have with them is I think they are using an outdated spam database -- Original Message -- From: Mark Nash - Lists markl...@uwol.net Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 10:20:59 -0700 We have been having alot of problems sending email through Everyone.Net's servers. Lots of server rejections, delivery resource unavailable type messages. Anyone going through the same problems? Here's a message sent by our tech to their tech support this morning. This message outlines our problems with them. - Original Message - From: Justin Mann To: Everyone.net Technical Support ; Unwired West Cc: Mark Nash Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 10:09 AM Subject: Continued issues with sending email with Everyone.net servers Hello, We are getting more Delivery Resource Unavailable errors from the Everyone.net SMTP servers today. This is on both shared-svc1 and shared-svc2. We would like help on why this is happening, and why we have issues sending email intermittently. I know for a fact this is an issue with the everyone.net servers; the error message is being returned from the servers themselves, after an SMTP session has been established. See the attached image; that is the error message coming from Everyone.net's servers. We didn't have many issues from this in April, but it was a nightmare earlier in the year. When email does not work, it makes it very difficult to do business. I am sure you understand our frustrations. So far, all suggestions given to us from Everyone.net have not worked. We have exhausted all potential options on our ends for reasons that we could be causing the errors. We have used different workstations, different operating systems, different mail clients, different ISPs, different email domains. We have even used different SMTP servers per your suggestion. When we use third-party SMTP servers we do not have this problem, ever. However, that is not a long-term solution. Please advise. Also, please look at the attached image. This is the type of error message we get, frequently, with both shared-svc1 and now shared-svc2. Sent via the WebMail system at avolve.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Issues with sending email with Everyone.net servers
yesterday we had a problem with them, No an issue, the customer had her machine date set on month in the future, thus the spam filter was rejecting all her sent mail. This also seemed to happen to many xp machines after tuesdays MS up date. They had to reset the date, and if they set it wrong -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 10:21 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Issues with sending email with Everyone.net servers We have been having alot of problems sending email through Everyone.Net's servers. Lots of server rejections, delivery resource unavailable type messages. Anyone going through the same problems? Here's a message sent by our tech to their tech support this morning. This message outlines our problems with them. - Original Message - From: Justin Mann To: Everyone.net Technical Support ; Unwired West Cc: Mark Nash Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 10:09 AM Subject: Continued issues with sending email with Everyone.net servers Hello, We are getting more Delivery Resource Unavailable errors from the Everyone.net SMTP servers today. This is on both shared-svc1 and shared-svc2. We would like help on why this is happening, and why we have issues sending email intermittently. I know for a fact this is an issue with the everyone.net servers; the error message is being returned from the servers themselves, after an SMTP session has been established. See the attached image; that is the error message coming from Everyone.net's servers. We didn't have many issues from this in April, but it was a nightmare earlier in the year. When email does not work, it makes it very difficult to do business. I am sure you understand our frustrations. So far, all suggestions given to us from Everyone.net have not worked. We have exhausted all potential options on our ends for reasons that we could be causing the errors. We have used different workstations, different operating systems, different mail clients, different ISPs, different email domains. We have even used different SMTP servers per your suggestion. When we use third-party SMTP servers we do not have this problem, ever. However, that is not a long-term solution. Please advise. Also, please look at the attached image. This is the type of error message we get, frequently, with both shared-svc1 and now shared-svc2. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] T- minus 1 hour
That's about 7 miles north of me :D You should see the bandwidth spike because everyone in the county watching the streams. We also have a customer out at KSC that pushes a stream. Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 From: forbes.me...@wabroadband.com Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 1:33 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] T- minus 1 hour http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] T- minus 1 hour
Meh, It only happens once every few months or so, And we have the bandwidth so its not really a problem. Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 From: Rubens Kuhl rube...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 3:12 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] T- minus 1 hour Multicast ? Rubens On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Nick Olsen n...@brevardwireless.com wrote: That's about 7 miles north of me :D You should see the bandwidth spike because everyone in the county watching the streams. We also have a customer out at KSC that pushes a stream. Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 From: forbes.me...@wabroadband.com Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 1:33 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] T- minus 1 hour http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Issues with sending email with Everyone.net servers
I seem to remember that they sent out an email saying that they were going to have maintenance. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 1:21 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Issues with sending email with Everyone.net servers We have been having alot of problems sending email through Everyone.Net's servers. Lots of server rejections, delivery resource unavailable type messages. Anyone going through the same problems? Here's a message sent by our tech to their tech support this morning. This message outlines our problems with them. - Original Message - From: Justin Mann To: Everyone.net Technical Support ; Unwired West Cc: Mark Nash Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 10:09 AM Subject: Continued issues with sending email with Everyone.net servers Hello, We are getting more Delivery Resource Unavailable errors from the Everyone.net SMTP servers today. This is on both shared-svc1 and shared-svc2. We would like help on why this is happening, and why we have issues sending email intermittently. I know for a fact this is an issue with the everyone.net servers; the error message is being returned from the servers themselves, after an SMTP session has been established. See the attached image; that is the error message coming from Everyone.net's servers. We didn't have many issues from this in April, but it was a nightmare earlier in the year. When email does not work, it makes it very difficult to do business. I am sure you understand our frustrations. So far, all suggestions given to us from Everyone.net have not worked. We have exhausted all potential options on our ends for reasons that we could be causing the errors. We have used different workstations, different operating systems, different mail clients, different ISPs, different email domains. We have even used different SMTP servers per your suggestion. When we use third-party SMTP servers we do not have this problem, ever. However, that is not a long-term solution. Please advise. Also, please look at the attached image. This is the type of error message we get, frequently, with both shared-svc1 and now shared-svc2. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Anyone Providing Fiber in Cincinnati Ohio?
Anyone selling fiber in Cinci? Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. 740-335-7020 Logo5 image001.gif WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Trango APEX link trouble
Hello, We have an 11ghz Trango APEX link up for one of our incoming lines, and it went down this morning. There is no link light on either the managment or traffic port on one end. We unplugged-and-replugged the power on it, and it came back up for fifteen to twenty minutes, then crashed again. I've been trying to get a hold of Trango tech support, but so far it's been several hours and I just keep getting voice mail. Has anyone else seen anything like this? Thanks, Kevin WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Anyone Providing Fiber in Cincinnati Ohio?
Time Warner Cable I expect is. That and Columbus is where they connect to Level 3. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: Anyone selling fiber in Cinci? Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. 740-335-7020 Logo5 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX link trouble
How long have you had the link installed? How long is the Ethernet cable that you are running the PoE on? Are you powering the unit over the management port or the data port? We had trouble keeping an Apex unit powered up some time ago. It would run for 15min to an hour and then stop. Turned out even though the Ethernet cable was only 250-260' we determined we need to power the unit via a shorter cable run. Once we did that the problem hasn't arisen again since. The odd thing is we have several Apex radios running without trouble on cables even longer than the 250-260' cable this unit was running on. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Sullivan Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 3:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Trango APEX link trouble Hello, We have an 11ghz Trango APEX link up for one of our incoming lines, and it went down this morning. There is no link light on either the managment or traffic port on one end. We unplugged-and-replugged the power on it, and it came back up for fifteen to twenty minutes, then crashed again. I've been trying to get a hold of Trango tech support, but so far it's been several hours and I just keep getting voice mail. Has anyone else seen anything like this? Thanks, Kevin WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX link trouble
Hi, Have you done the basic troubleshooting? Checked the cables, connectors for water, etc. Have you rebooted the far side? When it comes back up, what is the signal level? Travis Microserv Kevin Sullivan wrote: Hello, We have an 11ghz Trango APEX link up for one of our incoming lines, and it went down this morning. There is no link light on either the managment or traffic port on one end. We unplugged-and-replugged the power on it, and it came back up for fifteen to twenty minutes, then crashed again. I've been trying to get a hold of Trango tech support, but so far it's been several hours and I just keep getting voice mail. Has anyone else seen anything like this? Thanks, Kevin WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX link trouble
Voltage on the power supply can be increased if all you need is a shorter power run. On 5/14/10, Brad Belton b...@belwave.com wrote: How long have you had the link installed? How long is the Ethernet cable that you are running the PoE on? Are you powering the unit over the management port or the data port? We had trouble keeping an Apex unit powered up some time ago. It would run for 15min to an hour and then stop. Turned out even though the Ethernet cable was only 250-260' we determined we need to power the unit via a shorter cable run. Once we did that the problem hasn't arisen again since. The odd thing is we have several Apex radios running without trouble on cables even longer than the 250-260' cable this unit was running on. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Sullivan Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 3:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Trango APEX link trouble Hello, We have an 11ghz Trango APEX link up for one of our incoming lines, and it went down this morning. There is no link light on either the managment or traffic port on one end. We unplugged-and-replugged the power on it, and it came back up for fifteen to twenty minutes, then crashed again. I've been trying to get a hold of Trango tech support, but so far it's been several hours and I just keep getting voice mail. Has anyone else seen anything like this? Thanks, Kevin WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX link trouble
Possibly with the Trango rack mount style power supplies (have to go look at one to confirm) or a third party power suppliy, but not with the Trango laptop power supply style. We were using the Trango laptop style PS on this particular Apex as it was a single client user with VERY limited space. There was no room for even a 1U power supply! Now that's limited space! Lol Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 3:41 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX link trouble Voltage on the power supply can be increased if all you need is a shorter power run. On 5/14/10, Brad Belton b...@belwave.com wrote: How long have you had the link installed? How long is the Ethernet cable that you are running the PoE on? Are you powering the unit over the management port or the data port? We had trouble keeping an Apex unit powered up some time ago. It would run for 15min to an hour and then stop. Turned out even though the Ethernet cable was only 250-260' we determined we need to power the unit via a shorter cable run. Once we did that the problem hasn't arisen again since. The odd thing is we have several Apex radios running without trouble on cables even longer than the 250-260' cable this unit was running on. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Sullivan Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 3:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Trango APEX link trouble Hello, We have an 11ghz Trango APEX link up for one of our incoming lines, and it went down this morning. There is no link light on either the managment or traffic port on one end. We unplugged-and-replugged the power on it, and it came back up for fifteen to twenty minutes, then crashed again. I've been trying to get a hold of Trango tech support, but so far it's been several hours and I just keep getting voice mail. Has anyone else seen anything like this? Thanks, Kevin WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. --- Winston Churchill WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] ack settings
I have MT for access points and mostly UBNT for client units. Just wondering about the proper way to set the ack on the CPE. I have always just set it for a little further than the customer on the UBNT side and left the MT side to dynamic. This was set differently for each customer. One might be set at 1 mile and one might be set at 5 miles. I read something the other day that said the ack should be set at the furtherest customer plus about 10%. I read this to mean that all customers should be set to the furtherest distance, is this correct? Also searching came up with the fact that the auto ack setting on UBNT is more of a problem that a help. Just looking for suggestions and input on how everyone is setting the client units. And do I leave the access point set to dynamic or should I set it statically as well? Thanks WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ack settings
I've been doing Auto Ack since beta 8 came out and it seems to be setting it just right but I use UBNT for the AP as well. Before that I was setting them a little more than the center of the CPEs average distance with no issues. However, with the UBNT on both sides we can also set the AirMax priority so that the clients further out have lower priority thus the closer ones won't suffer. With the setting of the two it's been smooth. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Data Technology Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 4:54 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] ack settings I have MT for access points and mostly UBNT for client units. Just wondering about the proper way to set the ack on the CPE. I have always just set it for a little further than the customer on the UBNT side and left the MT side to dynamic. This was set differently for each customer. One might be set at 1 mile and one might be set at 5 miles. I read something the other day that said the ack should be set at the furtherest customer plus about 10%. I read this to mean that all customers should be set to the furtherest distance, is this correct? Also searching came up with the fact that the auto ack setting on UBNT is more of a problem that a help. Just looking for suggestions and input on how everyone is setting the client units. And do I leave the access point set to dynamic or should I set it statically as well? Thanks WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ack settings
What is beta 8? I've never changed the ack timeouts. I've always used dynamic (MT APs and NS2 CPEs). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 5:12 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: I've been doing Auto Ack since beta 8 came out and it seems to be setting it just right but I use UBNT for the AP as well. Before that I was setting them a little more than the center of the CPEs average distance with no issues. However, with the UBNT on both sides we can also set the AirMax priority so that the clients further out have lower priority thus the closer ones won't suffer. With the setting of the two it's been smooth. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Data Technology Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 4:54 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] ack settings I have MT for access points and mostly UBNT for client units. Just wondering about the proper way to set the ack on the CPE. I have always just set it for a little further than the customer on the UBNT side and left the MT side to dynamic. This was set differently for each customer. One might be set at 1 mile and one might be set at 5 miles. I read something the other day that said the ack should be set at the furtherest customer plus about 10%. I read this to mean that all customers should be set to the furtherest distance, is this correct? Also searching came up with the fact that the auto ack setting on UBNT is more of a problem that a help. Just looking for suggestions and input on how everyone is setting the client units. And do I leave the access point set to dynamic or should I set it statically as well? Thanks WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ack settings
Airmax is up to 5.2.beta8, legacy is up to 3.5.xxxrc something. -- Original Message -- From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 17:30:39 -0400 What is beta 8? I've never changed the ack timeouts. I've always used dynamic (MT APs and NS2 CPEs). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. --- Winston Churchill On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 5:12 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: I've been doing Auto Ack since beta 8 came out and it seems to be setting it just right but I use UBNT for the AP as well. Before that I was setting them a little more than the center of the CPEs average distance with no issues. However, with the UBNT on both sides we can also set the AirMax priority so that the clients further out have lower priority thus the closer ones won't suffer. With the setting of the two it's been smooth. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Data Technology Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 4:54 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] ack settings I have MT for access points and mostly UBNT for client units. Just wondering about the proper way to set the ack on the CPE. I have always just set it for a little further than the customer on the UBNT side and left the MT side to dynamic. This was set differently for each customer. One might be set at 1 mile and one might be set at 5 miles. I read something the other day that said the ack should be set at the furtherest customer plus about 10%. I read this to mean that all customers should be set to the furtherest distance, is this correct? Also searching came up with the fact that the auto ack setting on UBNT is more of a problem that a help. Just looking for suggestions and input on how everyone is setting the client units. And do I leave the access point set to dynamic or should I set it statically as well? Thanks WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Sent via the WebMail system at avolve.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ack settings
I see. I'm still in the legacy world. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 6:38 PM, Stuart Pierce spie...@avolve.net wrote: Airmax is up to 5.2.beta8, legacy is up to 3.5.xxxrc something. -- Original Message -- From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 17:30:39 -0400 What is beta 8? I've never changed the ack timeouts. I've always used dynamic (MT APs and NS2 CPEs). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 5:12 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: I've been doing Auto Ack since beta 8 came out and it seems to be setting it just right but I use UBNT for the AP as well. Before that I was setting them a little more than the center of the CPEs average distance with no issues. However, with the UBNT on both sides we can also set the AirMax priority so that the clients further out have lower priority thus the closer ones won't suffer. With the setting of the two it's been smooth. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Data Technology Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 4:54 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] ack settings I have MT for access points and mostly UBNT for client units. Just wondering about the proper way to set the ack on the CPE. I have always just set it for a little further than the customer on the UBNT side and left the MT side to dynamic. This was set differently for each customer. One might be set at 1 mile and one might be set at 5 miles. I read something the other day that said the ack should be set at the furtherest customer plus about 10%. I read this to mean that all customers should be set to the furtherest distance, is this correct? Also searching came up with the fact that the auto ack setting on UBNT is more of a problem that a help. Just looking for suggestions and input on how everyone is setting the client units. And do I leave the access point set to dynamic or should I set it statically as well? Thanks WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Sent via the WebMail system at avolve.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ack settings
Airmax is up to V5.2-RC as of two days ago On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Stuart Pierce spie...@avolve.net wrote: Airmax is up to 5.2.beta8, legacy is up to 3.5.xxxrc something. -- Original Message -- From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 17:30:39 -0400 What is beta 8? I've never changed the ack timeouts. I've always used dynamic (MT APs and NS2 CPEs). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 5:12 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: I've been doing Auto Ack since beta 8 came out and it seems to be setting it just right but I use UBNT for the AP as well. Before that I was setting them a little more than the center of the CPEs average distance with no issues. However, with the UBNT on both sides we can also set the AirMax priority so that the clients further out have lower priority thus the closer ones won't suffer. With the setting of the two it's been smooth. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Data Technology Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 4:54 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] ack settings I have MT for access points and mostly UBNT for client units. Just wondering about the proper way to set the ack on the CPE. I have always just set it for a little further than the customer on the UBNT side and left the MT side to dynamic. This was set differently for each customer. One might be set at 1 mile and one might be set at 5 miles. I read something the other day that said the ack should be set at the furtherest customer plus about 10%. I read this to mean that all customers should be set to the furtherest distance, is this correct? Also searching came up with the fact that the auto ack setting on UBNT is more of a problem that a help. Just looking for suggestions and input on how everyone is setting the client units. And do I leave the access point set to dynamic or should I set it statically as well? Thanks WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Sent via the WebMail system at avolve.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX link trouble
It's been running six months without a dropped packet. Cable run is ~100 feet, maybe a little less. We were powering it over the data port, but we switched to the management port today. We checked the power output on the PS, and with the power supply plugged into the power injector, but the radio not actually working, we got -47.8v. That makes me think it is unlikely to be an actual power supply issue. I'm starting to wonder if it is heat related somehow. The problem started at around 10:00am today, and now that it's nearing six and cooling down, the link came back up and started working fine. I can't think what else it would be related to... maybe the power injector doesn't like it when it gets warm? I have a new power injector coming from Trango -- I'm thinking maybe the current power injector has a bad component that doesn't react well to heat. Kevin - Original Message - From: Brad Belton b...@belwave.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX link trouble How long have you had the link installed? How long is the Ethernet cable that you are running the PoE on? Are you powering the unit over the management port or the data port? We had trouble keeping an Apex unit powered up some time ago. It would run for 15min to an hour and then stop. Turned out even though the Ethernet cable was only 250-260' we determined we need to power the unit via a shorter cable run. Once we did that the problem hasn't arisen again since. The odd thing is we have several Apex radios running without trouble on cables even longer than the 250-260' cable this unit was running on. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Sullivan Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 3:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Trango APEX link trouble Hello, We have an 11ghz Trango APEX link up for one of our incoming lines, and it went down this morning. There is no link light on either the managment or traffic port on one end. We unplugged-and-replugged the power on it, and it came back up for fifteen to twenty minutes, then crashed again. I've been trying to get a hold of Trango tech support, but so far it's been several hours and I just keep getting voice mail. Has anyone else seen anything like this? Thanks, Kevin WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX link trouble
The Redline an80 5.4 had a cold temperature problem. Your theory is possible... On 5/14/10, Kevin Sullivan kevin.sulli...@alyrica.net wrote: It's been running six months without a dropped packet. Cable run is ~100 feet, maybe a little less. We were powering it over the data port, but we switched to the management port today. We checked the power output on the PS, and with the power supply plugged into the power injector, but the radio not actually working, we got -47.8v. That makes me think it is unlikely to be an actual power supply issue. I'm starting to wonder if it is heat related somehow. The problem started at around 10:00am today, and now that it's nearing six and cooling down, the link came back up and started working fine. I can't think what else it would be related to... maybe the power injector doesn't like it when it gets warm? I have a new power injector coming from Trango -- I'm thinking maybe the current power injector has a bad component that doesn't react well to heat. Kevin - Original Message - From: Brad Belton b...@belwave.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX link trouble How long have you had the link installed? How long is the Ethernet cable that you are running the PoE on? Are you powering the unit over the management port or the data port? We had trouble keeping an Apex unit powered up some time ago. It would run for 15min to an hour and then stop. Turned out even though the Ethernet cable was only 250-260' we determined we need to power the unit via a shorter cable run. Once we did that the problem hasn't arisen again since. The odd thing is we have several Apex radios running without trouble on cables even longer than the 250-260' cable this unit was running on. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Sullivan Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 3:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Trango APEX link trouble Hello, We have an 11ghz Trango APEX link up for one of our incoming lines, and it went down this morning. There is no link light on either the managment or traffic port on one end. We unplugged-and-replugged the power on it, and it came back up for fifteen to twenty minutes, then crashed again. I've been trying to get a hold of Trango tech support, but so far it's been several hours and I just keep getting voice mail. Has anyone else seen anything like this? Thanks, Kevin WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX link trouble
Sure its possible to have a radio that is failing. All I can say isthe easiest and quickest thing to do is to 100% rule out everything else. I have to admit, I jumped to think I had a bad radio twice, even go the replacements shipped, and both times it ended up being cabling after all. The Apexes are pretty solid. There are so many possible ways CAT5 can go bad. And I know, the odds of two cables going bad, (the management and Data) doesn't sound likey, but its possible. the APEX can be powered up by ether management or data cable. You might want to try powering from the other one. For cable damage, the big things are corrosion on the pins, or a bad crimp to one of the pins. Those things are hard to spot, and dont always surface for 6 months or so.. Cable blows in the wind, link goes down, or overheats or shuts down because not getting enough current or to much while shorting out. Now when the APEXs first came out (like the first batch) there was a manufacturering flaw with a part that I think effected Ethernet life, but Trango proactively recalled them, like days after they shipped, and gave free repairs on it. (I was impressed, very responsibly done) But that was ages ago. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Kevin Sullivan kevin.sulli...@alyrica.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 8:49 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX link trouble It's been running six months without a dropped packet. Cable run is ~100 feet, maybe a little less. We were powering it over the data port, but we switched to the management port today. We checked the power output on the PS, and with the power supply plugged into the power injector, but the radio not actually working, we got -47.8v. That makes me think it is unlikely to be an actual power supply issue. I'm starting to wonder if it is heat related somehow. The problem started at around 10:00am today, and now that it's nearing six and cooling down, the link came back up and started working fine. I can't think what else it would be related to... maybe the power injector doesn't like it when it gets warm? I have a new power injector coming from Trango -- I'm thinking maybe the current power injector has a bad component that doesn't react well to heat. Kevin - Original Message - From: Brad Belton b...@belwave.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX link trouble How long have you had the link installed? How long is the Ethernet cable that you are running the PoE on? Are you powering the unit over the management port or the data port? We had trouble keeping an Apex unit powered up some time ago. It would run for 15min to an hour and then stop. Turned out even though the Ethernet cable was only 250-260' we determined we need to power the unit via a shorter cable run. Once we did that the problem hasn't arisen again since. The odd thing is we have several Apex radios running without trouble on cables even longer than the 250-260' cable this unit was running on. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Sullivan Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 3:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Trango APEX link trouble Hello, We have an 11ghz Trango APEX link up for one of our incoming lines, and it went down this morning. There is no link light on either the managment or traffic port on one end. We unplugged-and-replugged the power on it, and it came back up for fifteen to twenty minutes, then crashed again. I've been trying to get a hold of Trango tech support, but so far it's been several hours and I just keep getting voice mail. Has anyone else seen anything like this? Thanks, Kevin WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List:
[WISPA] I'll be the one with the pink carnation - Hamfest 2010
I'll wear a pink carnation so any of ya at Hamfest will know it's me. Not that it's different from any other day, I always wear a pink carnation. Sometimes I just want to feel pretty. Bo- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ack settings
The RC came out a couple of days ago. I'm waiting. . - Original Message - From: Stuart Pierce spie...@avolve.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 6:38 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] ack settings Airmax is up to 5.2.beta8, legacy is up to 3.5.xxxrc something. -- Original Message -- From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 17:30:39 -0400 What is beta 8? I've never changed the ack timeouts. I've always used dynamic (MT APs and NS2 CPEs). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. --- Winston Churchill On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 5:12 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: I've been doing Auto Ack since beta 8 came out and it seems to be setting it just right but I use UBNT for the AP as well. Before that I was setting them a little more than the center of the CPEs average distance with no issues. However, with the UBNT on both sides we can also set the AirMax priority so that the clients further out have lower priority thus the closer ones won't suffer. With the setting of the two it's been smooth. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Data Technology Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 4:54 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] ack settings I have MT for access points and mostly UBNT for client units. Just wondering about the proper way to set the ack on the CPE. I have always just set it for a little further than the customer on the UBNT side and left the MT side to dynamic. This was set differently for each customer. One might be set at 1 mile and one might be set at 5 miles. I read something the other day that said the ack should be set at the furtherest customer plus about 10%. I read this to mean that all customers should be set to the furtherest distance, is this correct? Also searching came up with the fact that the auto ack setting on UBNT is more of a problem that a help. Just looking for suggestions and input on how everyone is setting the client units. And do I leave the access point set to dynamic or should I set it statically as well? Thanks WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Sent via the WebMail system at avolve.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] I'll be the one with the pink carnation - Hamfest 2010
Maybe you'll want to check out the Masque? On 5/15/10, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: I'll wear a pink carnation so any of ya at Hamfest will know it's me. Not that it's different from any other day, I always wear a pink carnation. Sometimes I just want to feel pretty. Bo- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] I'll be the one with the pink carnation - Hamfest 2010
We're still all coming to your house for beer, pizza and breaking your PS3 afterwards, funny boy! HA! - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 12:47 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] I'll be the one with the pink carnation - Hamfest 2010 Maybe you'll want to check out the Masque? On 5/15/10, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: I'll wear a pink carnation so any of ya at Hamfest will know it's me. Not that it's different from any other day, I always wear a pink carnation. Sometimes I just want to feel pretty. Bo- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
