[WISPA] OT Fax over Voip

2014-03-31 Thread wispa
I have a customer that we installed an IP phone system for. They moved their 
office to a new building where the telco couldn’t or wouldn’t bring service to. 
So I have the PBX at their old location where the COs come in and we go over a 
wireless link to the new office where they use their internet and IP phones, 
and all works great. 

So their fax machine sits at their old location and they want it in their new 
location. They are not interested in doing Internet fax at this time, but I may 
have to introduce it again. A while ago we bought some Grandstream gateway 
devices. We have them configured correctly and they transmit and receive voice 
just fine, just no fax.

So, the scenario would be the CO goes into a gateway device to convert to 
digital, goes over the LAN to the other gateway device. That device hooks up to 
the fax machine. If someone has done this before can you share the products you 
may have used? The products we have say they will work this way, but no luck, 
just voice transmission. I may have a bad device as well.

Also, is there any internet fax services that allow users to use their existing 
fax machine? I know it’s a little weird to ask that, but some people have a 
hard time with change using their PC to send faxes

thanks
heith
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Re: [WISPA] OT Fax over Voip

2014-03-31 Thread Mike Hammett
There's a company that has boxes that'll work even over a satellite connection. 
I forget their name. Google for satellite fax. 




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Subject: [WISPA] OT Fax over Voip 




I have a customer that we installed an IP phone system for. They moved their 
office to a new building where the telco couldn’t or wouldn’t bring service to. 
So I have the PBX at their old location where the COs come in and we go over a 
wireless link to the new office where they use their internet and IP phones, 
and all works great. 

So their fax machine sits at their old location and they want it in their new 
location. They are not interested in doing Internet fax at this time, but I may 
have to introduce it again. A while ago we bought some Grandstream gateway 
devices. We have them configured correctly and they transmit and receive voice 
just fine, just no fax. 

So, the scenario would be the CO goes into a gateway device to convert to 
digital, goes over the LAN to the other gateway device. That device hooks up to 
the fax machine. If someone has done this before can you share the products you 
may have used? The products we have say they will work this way, but no luck, 
just voice transmission. I may have a bad device as well. 

Also, is there any internet fax services that allow users to use their existing 
fax machine? I know it’s a little weird to ask that, but some people have a 
hard time with change using their PC to send faxes 

thanks 
heith 
mnwireless 

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Re: [WISPA] OT Fax over Voip

2014-03-31 Thread Darin Steffl
http://www.vitelity.com/services_vfax/


Works perfect. Order the Fax Enable device and it will allow the old fax
machine to function perfectly. You also get the benefit of fax-to-email
capability if they want it turned on. Unless they do a ton of faxes each
month, the standard per minute rates are the way to go.


On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 9:03 AM, wi...@mncomm.com wrote:

   I have a customer that we installed an IP phone system for. They moved
 their office to a new building where the telco couldn't or wouldn't bring
 service to. So I have the PBX at their old location where the COs come in
 and we go over a wireless link to the new office where they use their
 internet and IP phones, and all works great.

 So their fax machine sits at their old location and they want it in their
 new location. They are not interested in doing Internet fax at this time,
 but I may have to introduce it again. A while ago we bought some
 Grandstream gateway devices. We have them configured correctly and they
 transmit and receive voice just fine, just no fax.

 So, the scenario would be the CO goes into a gateway device to convert to
 digital, goes over the LAN to the other gateway device. That device hooks
 up to the fax machine. If someone has done this before can you share the
 products you may have used? The products we have say they will work this
 way, but no luck, just voice transmission. I may have a bad device as well.

 Also, is there any internet fax services that allow users to use their
 existing fax machine? I know it's a little weird to ask that, but some
 people have a hard time with change using their PC to send faxes

 thanks
 heith
 mnwireless


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Re: [WISPA] OT Fax over Voip

2014-03-31 Thread Fred Goldstein

On 3/31/2014 10:03 AM, wi...@mncomm.com wrote:
I have a customer that we installed an IP phone system for. They moved 
their office to a new building where the telco couldn't or wouldn't 
bring service to. So I have the PBX at their old location where the 
COs come in and we go over a wireless link to the new office where 
they use their internet and IP phones, and all works great.
So their fax machine sits at their old location and they want it in 
their new location. They are not interested in doing Internet fax at 
this time, but I may have to introduce it again. A while ago we bought 
some Grandstream gateway devices. We have them configured correctly 
and they transmit and receive voice just fine, just no fax.
So, the scenario would be the CO goes into a gateway device to convert 
to digital, goes over the LAN to the other gateway device. That device 
hooks up to the fax machine. If someone has done this before can you 
share the products you may have used? The products we have say they 
will work this way, but no luck, just voice transmission. I may have a 
bad device as well.
Also, is there any internet fax services that allow users to use their 
existing fax machine? I know it's a little weird to ask that, but some 
people have a hard time with change using their PC to send faxes





Which solution is best for the customer depends on how they use fax and 
how critical it is.


I just uploaded my FCC Comments on the ATT experiment, one which 
proposes that fax capabilities be lost.  I pointed out that fax is 
sometimes used for reasons that distinguish it from email: Security and 
privacy (no middle man server), knowledge of receipt (not just to a 
mailbox), and reliability (no servers, no attachments).  Internet fax is 
actually the worst of both worlds, putting fax in series with email.  So 
it's useful if you get the occasional fax from someone who can't scan 
documents otherwise, but it's not useful if you use fax the way 
pharmacies, doctors, and courts do.


Since VoIP doesn't support modems or fax, if they need real fax, they 
need a way to extend the signal (dial tone) to the new site. This 
can't just run over best efforts IP.  But there are systems that do 
the timing and buffering to enable TDM to be reliably emulated across a 
wireless link (I suggest using a high-priority VLAN and no public IP).  
We're using the RAD IPmux series. We're putting them in to replace T1s, 
for instance, to support fire department voting receivers (very quality 
critical) across Ethernet radios.  Not exactly cheap, but it's a nice 
tool.  They are available with different types of interfaces.


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Re: [WISPA] OT Fax over Voip

2014-03-31 Thread lar
On Mon, 31 Mar 2014 11:09:31 -0400
  Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.com wrote:
 On 3/31/2014 10:03 AM, wi...@mncomm.com wrote:
 I have a customer that we installed an IP phone system for. They moved their 
office to a new building where the telco couldn't or wouldn't bring service 
to. 
--snip--
 
 
 Which solution is best for the customer depends on how they use fax and how 
critical it is.
 
 I just uploaded my FCC Comments on the ATT experiment, one which proposes 
that fax capabilities be lost.  I pointed out that fax is sometimes used for 
reasons that distinguish it from email: Security and privacy (no middle man 
server), knowledge of receipt (not just to a mailbox), and reliability (no 
servers, no attachments).

I don't want to start a long thread about fax but --RANT Fax over copper was 
never
either secure or private. The transmission always was fairly easy to intercept 
if
you were snooping on a particular individual/business. Plus, you have no idea 
who
walks up to the recipient fax machine which I maintain should disqualify it 
for both
the legal and medical communities. Some of the old time phone phreaks
used to have the CO automatically bridge lines to a cable pair that they had 
acquired
during call setup. (Hopefully they were all chased out of the system some time 
ago)
Fax is a loose standard and should have died out a decade ago. (IMHO) A 
peer-to-peer
encrypted, standards based system would have been the likely result and this 
silliness
about supporting analog fax would go away. /RANT That said both of the 
methods mentioned
in this thread work about as well as traditional copper which is less than 
100%. Even
on copper expect a few customer calls.


  Internet fax is actually the worst of both worlds, 
putting fax in series with email.  So it's useful if you get the occasional 
fax from someone who can't scan documents otherwise, but it's not useful if 
you use fax the way pharmacies, doctors, and courts do.
 
 Since VoIP doesn't support modems or fax, if they need real fax, they need a 
way to extend the signal (dial tone) to the new site. This can't just run 
over best efforts IP.  But there are systems that do the timing and 
buffering to enable TDM to be reliably emulated across a wireless link (I 
suggest using a high-priority VLAN and no public IP).  We're using the RAD 
IPmux series. We're putting them in to replace T1s, for instance, to support 
fire department voting receivers (very quality critical) across Ethernet 
radios.  Not exactly cheap, but it's a nice tool.  They are available with 
different types of interfaces.
 
 -- 
  Fred R. Goldstein  k1io fred at interisle.net
  Interisle Consulting Group
  +1 617 795 2701
 

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[WISPA] OT Time Clocks...

2014-03-31 Thread Bob Moldashel
OK  This is a little off topic as far as wireless goes but

I am looking for a time clock to keep track of employee time. Presently 
we are on the honor system (and I don't have a problem with that...just 
too much manual labor for the bookkeeper) and they mark down their own 
time on a sheet.  At the end of the pay period someone has to retrieve 
their time sheets, fax them to the office, and then add up the time, 
enter into Quickbooks and then print payroll.  The crews turn out at a 
remote site that is not part of the main office.

Its time to work smarter not harder.

I am looking for a time clock that can be connected to the Internet at 
the warehouse and all time info will be accessible remotely.

Anyone have any suggestions?

Tnx

-B-
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Re: [WISPA] OT Time Clocks...

2014-03-31 Thread Hass, Douglas A.
Bob,



Particularly if you do not have a supervisor who can sign off on time sheets 
each week, having a timeclock that can report to a central location is an 
absolute must. You still should have a supervisor reviewing the times each week 
and, ideally, having the employees sign off that they agree that the timesheet 
is correct. I am happy to talk to you about these issues off-list. Shoot me an 
email or give me a call.



House for a timeclock, have you considered using something that would also be 
QuickBooks integrated? Here's one option among many:



http://m.costco.com/Icon-Time-Systems-SB-100-PRO-Employee-Time-Clock.product.11264785.html

http://m.costco.com/Icon-Time-Systems-SB-100-PRO-Employee-Time-Clock.product.11264785.html



Doug



-- Original message --
From: Bob Moldashel
Date: 3/31/2014 5:39 PM
To: WISPA General List;
Subject:[WISPA] OT Time Clocks...

OK  This is a little off topic as far as wireless goes but

I am looking for a time clock to keep track of employee time. Presently
we are on the honor system (and I don't have a problem with that...just
too much manual labor for the bookkeeper) and they mark down their own
time on a sheet.  At the end of the pay period someone has to retrieve
their time sheets, fax them to the office, and then add up the time,
enter into Quickbooks and then print payroll.  The crews turn out at a
remote site that is not part of the main office.

Its time to work smarter not harder.

I am looking for a time clock that can be connected to the Internet at
the warehouse and all time info will be accessible remotely.

Anyone have any suggestions?

Tnx

-B-

Douglas A. Hass
Associate
312.786.6502
d...@franczek.com

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Re: [WISPA] OT Time Clocks...

2014-03-31 Thread timothy steele
What we had at my last job (  I've seen them at staples ) they work with RFID 
cards  evry time you tap Your card it automatically goes into QB 


I don't remember the brand but they do sell them at staples
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On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 6:48 PM, Hass, Douglas A. d...@franczek.com
wrote:

 Bob,
 Particularly if you do not have a supervisor who can sign off on time sheets 
 each week, having a timeclock that can report to a central location is an 
 absolute must. You still should have a supervisor reviewing the times each 
 week and, ideally, having the employees sign off that they agree that the 
 timesheet is correct. I am happy to talk to you about these issues off-list. 
 Shoot me an email or give me a call.
 House for a timeclock, have you considered using something that would also be 
 QuickBooks integrated? Here's one option among many:
 http://m.costco.com/Icon-Time-Systems-SB-100-PRO-Employee-Time-Clock.product.11264785.html
 http://m.costco.com/Icon-Time-Systems-SB-100-PRO-Employee-Time-Clock.product.11264785.html
 Doug
 -- Original message --
 From: Bob Moldashel
 Date: 3/31/2014 5:39 PM
 To: WISPA General List;
 Subject:[WISPA] OT Time Clocks...
 OK  This is a little off topic as far as wireless goes but
 I am looking for a time clock to keep track of employee time. Presently
 we are on the honor system (and I don't have a problem with that...just
 too much manual labor for the bookkeeper) and they mark down their own
 time on a sheet.  At the end of the pay period someone has to retrieve
 their time sheets, fax them to the office, and then add up the time,
 enter into Quickbooks and then print payroll.  The crews turn out at a
 remote site that is not part of the main office.
 Its time to work smarter not harder.
 I am looking for a time clock that can be connected to the Internet at
 the warehouse and all time info will be accessible remotely.
 Anyone have any suggestions?
 Tnx
 -B-
 Douglas A. Hass
 Associate
 312.786.6502
 d...@franczek.com
 Franczek Radelet P.C.
 Celebrating 20 Years | 1994-2014http://www.franczek.com/20thAnniversary/
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 Suite 3400
 Chicago, IL 60606
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Re: [WISPA] OT Time Clocks...

2014-03-31 Thread Martha Huizenga
How would you use this if you have techs that go straight to a client from 
their home?  we currently use a mobile app called time tracker. Each employee 
logs their time. At the end of the pay period they send it to me and I review 
and enter their time into payroll.
This is better, I feel than paper, but is still some work.timothy steele 
timothy.pct...@gmail.com wrote:What we had at my last job (  I've seen them 
at staples ) they work with RFID cards  evry time you tap Your card it 
automatically goes into QB 

I don't remember the brand but they do sell them at staples
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On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 6:48 PM, Hass, Douglas A. d...@franczek.com wrote:

Bob, 



Particularly if you do not have a supervisor who can sign off on time sheets 
each week, having a timeclock that can report to a central location is an 
absolute must. You still should have a supervisor reviewing the times each week 
and, ideally, having the employees sign off that they agree that the timesheet 
is correct. I am happy to talk to you about these issues off-list. Shoot me an 
email or give me a call. 



House for a timeclock, have you considered using something that would also be 
QuickBooks integrated? Here's one option among many: 



http://m.costco.com/Icon-Time-Systems-SB-100-PRO-Employee-Time-Clock.product.11264785.html
 

http://m.costco.com/Icon-Time-Systems-SB-100-PRO-Employee-Time-Clock.product.11264785.html
 



Doug 



-- Original message -- 
From: Bob Moldashel 
Date: 3/31/2014 5:39 PM 
To: WISPA General List; 
Subject:[WISPA] OT Time Clocks... 

OK This is a little off topic as far as wireless goes but 

I am looking for a time clock to keep track of employee time. Presently 
we are on the honor system (and I don't have a problem with that...just 
too much manual labor for the bookkeeper) and they mark down their own 
time on a sheet. At the end of the pay period someone has to retrieve 
their time sheets, fax them to the office, and then add up the time, 
enter into Quickbooks and then print payroll. The crews turn out at a 
remote site that is not part of the main office. 

Its time to work smarter not harder. 

I am looking for a time clock that can be connected to the Internet at 
the warehouse and all time info will be accessible remotely. 

Anyone have any suggestions? 

Tnx 

-B- 

Douglas A. Hass 
Associate 
312.786.6502 
d...@franczek.com 

Franczek Radelet P.C. 
Celebrating 20 Years | 1994-2014http://www.franczek.com/20thAnniversary/ 

300 South Wacker Drive 
Suite 3400 
Chicago, IL 60606 
312.986.0300 - Main 
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Re: [WISPA] OT Time Clocks...

2014-03-31 Thread Bob Moldashel

If they go straight to the customer then that's an issue.

My issue is guys forget to fax the time sheets at the end of the day or 
they put them in the fax machine upside down.  So the bookkeeper either 
gets no sheets or blank white sheets of paper. This then requires 
someone to go to the warehouse to retrieve the sheets and a firedrill in 
the AM to do payroll and get the checks out to the warehouse.


-B-




On 3/31/2014 8:05 PM, Martha Huizenga wrote:
How would you use this if you have techs that go straight to a client 
from their home?  we currently use a mobile app called time tracker. 
Each employee logs their time. At the end of the pay period they send 
it to me and I review and enter their time into payroll.

This is better, I feel than paper, but is still some work.

timothy steele timothy.pct...@gmail.com wrote:
What we had at my last job (  I've seen them at staples ) they work 
with RFID cards  evry time you tap Your card it automatically goes 
into QB


I don't remember the brand but they do sell them at staples
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On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 6:48 PM, Hass, Douglas A. d...@franczek.com 
mailto:d...@franczek.com wrote:


Bob,



Particularly if you do not have a supervisor who can sign off on
time sheets each week, having a timeclock that can report to a
central location is an absolute must. You still should have a
supervisor reviewing the times each week and, ideally, having the
employees sign off that they agree that the timesheet is correct.
I am happy to talk to you about these issues off-list. Shoot me an
email or give me a call.



House for a timeclock, have you considered using something that
would also be QuickBooks integrated? Here's one option among many:




http://m.costco.com/Icon-Time-Systems-SB-100-PRO-Employee-Time-Clock.product.11264785.html



http://m.costco.com/Icon-Time-Systems-SB-100-PRO-Employee-Time-Clock.product.11264785.html




Doug



-- Original message --
From: Bob Moldashel
Date: 3/31/2014 5:39 PM
To: WISPA General List;
Subject:[WISPA] OT Time Clocks...

OK This is a little off topic as far as wireless goes but

I am looking for a time clock to keep track of employee time.
Presently
we are on the honor system (and I don't have a problem with
that...just
too much manual labor for the bookkeeper) and they mark down their
own
time on a sheet. At the end of the pay period someone has to retrieve
their time sheets, fax them to the office, and then add up the time,
enter into Quickbooks and then print payroll. The crews turn out at a
remote site that is not part of the main office.

Its time to work smarter not harder.

I am looking for a time clock that can be connected to the
Internet at
the warehouse and all time info will be accessible remotely.

Anyone have any suggestions?

Tnx

-B-

Douglas A. Hass
Associate
312.786.6502
d...@franczek.com

Franczek Radelet P.C.
Celebrating 20 Years |
1994-2014http://www.franczek.com/20thAnniversary/

300 South Wacker Drive
Suite 3400
Chicago, IL 60606
312.986.0300 - Main
312.986.9192 - Fax
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Re: [WISPA] OT Time Clocks...

2014-03-31 Thread Martha Huizenga
Bob you might be a candidate for a mobile app. TimeTracker or Hours 
Tracker works well.



On 3/31/2014 8:20 PM, Bob Moldashel wrote:

If they go straight to the customer then that's an issue.

My issue is guys forget to fax the time sheets at the end of the day 
or they put them in the fax machine upside down.  So the bookkeeper 
either gets no sheets or blank white sheets of paper. This then 
requires someone to go to the warehouse to retrieve the sheets and a 
firedrill in the AM to do payroll and get the checks out to the warehouse.


-B-




On 3/31/2014 8:05 PM, Martha Huizenga wrote:
How would you use this if you have techs that go straight to a client 
from their home?  we currently use a mobile app called time tracker. 
Each employee logs their time. At the end of the pay period they send 
it to me and I review and enter their time into payroll.

This is better, I feel than paper, but is still some work.

timothy steele timothy.pct...@gmail.com wrote:
What we had at my last job (  I've seen them at staples ) they work 
with RFID cards  evry time you tap Your card it automatically goes 
into QB


I don't remember the brand but they do sell them at staples
---
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On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 6:48 PM, Hass, Douglas A. d...@franczek.com 
mailto:d...@franczek.com wrote:


Bob,



Particularly if you do not have a supervisor who can sign off on
time sheets each week, having a timeclock that can report to a
central location is an absolute must. You still should have a
supervisor reviewing the times each week and, ideally, having the
employees sign off that they agree that the timesheet is correct.
I am happy to talk to you about these issues off-list. Shoot me
an email or give me a call.



House for a timeclock, have you considered using something that
would also be QuickBooks integrated? Here's one option among many:




http://m.costco.com/Icon-Time-Systems-SB-100-PRO-Employee-Time-Clock.product.11264785.html



http://m.costco.com/Icon-Time-Systems-SB-100-PRO-Employee-Time-Clock.product.11264785.html




Doug



-- Original message --
From: Bob Moldashel
Date: 3/31/2014 5:39 PM
To: WISPA General List;
Subject:[WISPA] OT Time Clocks...

OK This is a little off topic as far as wireless goes but

I am looking for a time clock to keep track of employee time.
Presently
we are on the honor system (and I don't have a problem with
that...just
too much manual labor for the bookkeeper) and they mark down
their own
time on a sheet. At the end of the pay period someone has to
retrieve
their time sheets, fax them to the office, and then add up the time,
enter into Quickbooks and then print payroll. The crews turn out
at a
remote site that is not part of the main office.

Its time to work smarter not harder.

I am looking for a time clock that can be connected to the
Internet at
the warehouse and all time info will be accessible remotely.

Anyone have any suggestions?

Tnx

-B-

Douglas A. Hass
Associate
312.786.6502
d...@franczek.com

Franczek Radelet P.C.
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Re: [WISPA] OT Time Clocks...

2014-03-31 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
That's why my pay period ends on a Friday and payroll isn't until the next
Wednesday...  I have all weekend and most of Monday to get payroll into
QuickBooks for direct deposit.

We just use a spreadsheet instead of a timecard.
On Mar 31, 2014 6:20 PM, Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.net wrote:

  If they go straight to the customer then that's an issue.

 My issue is guys forget to fax the time sheets at the end of the day or
 they put them in the fax machine upside down.  So the bookkeeper either
 gets no sheets or blank white sheets of paper. This then requires someone
 to go to the warehouse to retrieve the sheets and a firedrill in the AM to
 do payroll and get the checks out to the warehouse.

 -B-




 On 3/31/2014 8:05 PM, Martha Huizenga wrote:

 How would you use this if you have techs that go straight to a client from
 their home?  we currently use a mobile app called time tracker. Each
 employee logs their time. At the end of the pay period they send it to me
 and I review and enter their time into payroll.
 This is better, I feel than paper, but is still some work.

 timothy steele timothy.pct...@gmail.com timothy.pct...@gmail.comwrote:
 What we had at my last job (  I've seen them at staples ) they work with
 RFID cards  evry time you tap Your card it automatically goes into QB

  I don't remember the brand but they do sell them at staples
  --
 Sent from Mailbox https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox for iPhone


  On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 6:48 PM, Hass, Douglas A. d...@franczek.comwrote:

 Bob,



 Particularly if you do not have a supervisor who can sign off on time
 sheets each week, having a timeclock that can report to a central location
 is an absolute must. You still should have a supervisor reviewing the times
 each week and, ideally, having the employees sign off that they agree that
 the timesheet is correct. I am happy to talk to you about these issues
 off-list. Shoot me an email or give me a call.



 House for a timeclock, have you considered using something that would
 also be QuickBooks integrated? Here's one option among many:




 http://m.costco.com/Icon-Time-Systems-SB-100-PRO-Employee-Time-Clock.product.11264785.htmlhttp://m.costco.com/Icon-Time-Systems-SB-100-PRO-Employee-Time-Clock.product.11264785.html


 http://m.costco.com/Icon-Time-Systems-SB-100-PRO-Employee-Time-Clock.product.11264785.html



 Doug



 -- Original message --
 From: Bob Moldashel
 Date: 3/31/2014 5:39 PM
 To: WISPA General List;
 Subject:[WISPA] OT Time Clocks...

 OK This is a little off topic as far as wireless goes but

 I am looking for a time clock to keep track of employee time. Presently
 we are on the honor system (and I don't have a problem with that...just
 too much manual labor for the bookkeeper) and they mark down their own
 time on a sheet. At the end of the pay period someone has to retrieve
 their time sheets, fax them to the office, and then add up the time,
 enter into Quickbooks and then print payroll. The crews turn out at a
 remote site that is not part of the main office.

 Its time to work smarter not harder.

 I am looking for a time clock that can be connected to the Internet at
 the warehouse and all time info will be accessible remotely.

 Anyone have any suggestions?

 Tnx

 -B-

 Douglas A. Hass
 Associate
 312.786.6502
 d...@franczek.com

 Franczek Radelet P.C.
 Celebrating 20 Years | 1994-2014
 http://www.franczek.com/20thAnniversary/http://www.franczek.com/20thAnniversary/

 300 South Wacker Drive
 Suite 3400
 Chicago, IL 60606
 312.986.0300 - Main
 312.986.9192 - Fax
 www.franczek.comhttp://www.franczek.com/ http://www.franczek.com/

 Franczek Radelet is committed to sustainability - please consider the
 environment before printing this email
 
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 (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction
 or tax-related matter herein.
 
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Re: [WISPA] OT Time Clocks...

2014-03-31 Thread Bob Moldashel
That would work but I would probably drown in the tears or the crying 
would make me deaf!


:-)





On 3/31/2014 8:42 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:


That's why my pay period ends on a Friday and payroll isn't until the 
next Wednesday...  I have all weekend and most of Monday to get 
payroll into QuickBooks for direct deposit.


We just use a spreadsheet instead of a timecard.

On Mar 31, 2014 6:20 PM, Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.net 
mailto:lakel...@gbcx.net wrote:


If they go straight to the customer then that's an issue.

My issue is guys forget to fax the time sheets at the end of the
day or they put them in the fax machine upside down.  So the
bookkeeper either gets no sheets or blank white sheets of paper.
This then requires someone to go to the warehouse to retrieve the
sheets and a firedrill in the AM to do payroll and get the checks
out to the warehouse.

-B-




On 3/31/2014 8:05 PM, Martha Huizenga wrote:

How would you use this if you have techs that go straight to a
client from their home?  we currently use a mobile app called
time tracker. Each employee logs their time. At the end of the
pay period they send it to me and I review and enter their time
into payroll.
This is better, I feel than paper, but is still some work.

timothy steele timothy.pct...@gmail.com
mailto:timothy.pct...@gmail.com wrote:
What we had at my last job (  I've seen them at staples ) they
work with RFID cards  evry time you tap Your card it
automatically goes into QB

I don't remember the brand but they do sell them at staples
---
Sent from Mailbox https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox for iPhone


On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 6:48 PM, Hass, Douglas A.
d...@franczek.com mailto:d...@franczek.com wrote:

Bob,



Particularly if you do not have a supervisor who can sign off
on time sheets each week, having a timeclock that can report
to a central location is an absolute must. You still should
have a supervisor reviewing the times each week and, ideally,
having the employees sign off that they agree that the
timesheet is correct. I am happy to talk to you about these
issues off-list. Shoot me an email or give me a call.



House for a timeclock, have you considered using something
that would also be QuickBooks integrated? Here's one option
among many:




http://m.costco.com/Icon-Time-Systems-SB-100-PRO-Employee-Time-Clock.product.11264785.html

http://m.costco.com/Icon-Time-Systems-SB-100-PRO-Employee-Time-Clock.product.11264785.html



http://m.costco.com/Icon-Time-Systems-SB-100-PRO-Employee-Time-Clock.product.11264785.html




Doug



-- Original message --
From: Bob Moldashel
Date: 3/31/2014 5:39 PM
To: WISPA General List;
Subject:[WISPA] OT Time Clocks...

OK This is a little off topic as far as wireless goes but

I am looking for a time clock to keep track of employee time.
Presently
we are on the honor system (and I don't have a problem with
that...just
too much manual labor for the bookkeeper) and they mark down
their own
time on a sheet. At the end of the pay period someone has to
retrieve
their time sheets, fax them to the office, and then add up
the time,
enter into Quickbooks and then print payroll. The crews turn
out at a
remote site that is not part of the main office.

Its time to work smarter not harder.

I am looking for a time clock that can be connected to the
Internet at
the warehouse and all time info will be accessible remotely.

Anyone have any suggestions?

Tnx

-B-

Douglas A. Hass
Associate
312.786.6502 tel:312.786.6502
d...@franczek.com mailto:d...@franczek.com

Franczek Radelet P.C.
Celebrating 20 Years |
1994-2014http://www.franczek.com/20thAnniversary/
http://www.franczek.com/20thAnniversary/

300 South Wacker Drive
Suite 3400
Chicago, IL 60606
312.986.0300 tel:312.986.0300 - Main
312.986.9192 tel:312.986.9192 - Fax
www.franczek.com
http://www.franczek.comhttp://www.franczek.com/
http://www.franczek.com/

Franczek Radelet is committed to sustainability - please
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for the purposes of (i) avoiding 

Re: [WISPA] OT Time Clocks...

2014-03-31 Thread Kristian Hoffmann
Check out TimeTrex.  There's a free/community edition, and the paid 
version is pretty reasonable and has an Android/iOS app, job costing, 
etc.  The setup, especially if you have to shoehorn existing policies 
into it, can be a little arduous.  But after that, it just works.

hth,

-Kristian

On 03/31/2014 03:39 PM, Bob Moldashel wrote:
 OK  This is a little off topic as far as wireless goes but

 I am looking for a time clock to keep track of employee time. Presently
 we are on the honor system (and I don't have a problem with that...just
 too much manual labor for the bookkeeper) and they mark down their own
 time on a sheet.  At the end of the pay period someone has to retrieve
 their time sheets, fax them to the office, and then add up the time,
 enter into Quickbooks and then print payroll.  The crews turn out at a
 remote site that is not part of the main office.

 Its time to work smarter not harder.

 I am looking for a time clock that can be connected to the Internet at
 the warehouse and all time info will be accessible remotely.

 Anyone have any suggestions?

 Tnx

 -B-
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