Re: [WISPA] Baicells - who's deployed it?
Specifics? ryan -- D. Ryan Spott | NGC457, llc broadband | telco | colo | communities PO Box 1734 Sultan, WA 98294 425-939-0047 > On Jun 24, 2016, at 09:35, Judd Dare <judd.d...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Azure is far from reliable. > >> On Jun 19, 2016 11:03 AM, "Adair Winter" <ada...@amarillowireless.net> wrote: >> No, just authentication. Or at least that's the way it should be. >> They are hosting in azure and are supposed to have some good redundancy . >> >>> On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 12:01 PM, <mike.l...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> So if their hosted core takes a sh*t, all your users are down? >>> >>>> On Jun 19, 2016, at 09:57, Adair Winter <ada...@amarillowireless.net> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> probably possible but since it makes some sort of ipsec connection to >>>> their hosted core, it would be more difficult. >>>> >>>> The other way around works great though. >>>> >>>>> On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 11:53 AM, Matt Hoppes >>>>> <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote: >>>>> Since LTE is a standard I wonder if you could hook a Telrad eNB to >>>>> the baicells EPC?? >>>>> >>>>> *gear spinning* >>>>> >>>>>> On Jun 19, 2016, at 12:20, Adair Winter <ada...@amarillowireless.net> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Baicells is going to have cheaper hardware but there will be some trade >>>>>> offs to other vendors. >>>>>> for example, no 4x4, do dual carrier, etc. >>>>>> Also you'll pay per user per month to use their core unless you already >>>>>> have one. so look at the long term when pricing. >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Josh Luthman >>>>>>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >>>>>>> Baicells referred me to a distributor for pricing. I asked last week. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Jun 19, 2016 12:18 PM, "Matt Hoppes" >>>>>>>> <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote: >>>>>>>> I've said too much. I haven't said enough. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ask Patrick for more details on pricing. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Jun 19, 2016, at 11:59, CBB - Jay Fuller >>>>>>>>> <par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> He said "real" good ;) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> - Original Message - >>>>>>>>> From: Matt Hoppes >>>>>>>>> To: WISPA General List >>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 7:18 AM >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Baicells - who's deployed it? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> As opposed to bad? :P. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Jun 18, 2016, at 08:03, Josh Luthman >>>>>>>>>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "Good"? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 18, 2016 8:02 AM, "Matt Hoppes" >>>>>>>>>>> <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> True. It's good though. Real good. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 18, 2016, at 02:24, Chris Ruschmann <ch...@scsalaska.net> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>
Re: [WISPA] Small NEMA Enclosures
This works great for the side of a house: $32.50 http://www.lowes.com/pd_126702-74985-57095_0__?productId=1128857 Details here: http://www.orbitonline.com/products/sprinkler-systems/accessories/timer-accessories/timer-box/weather-resistant-sprinkler-timer-cabinet I put an extension cord into the GFCI outlet and then plug that into the wall: $7.00 http://www.lowes.com/pd_242043-66906-UT880608_0+2zc58__?productId=3190805 The box locks and it looks like a sprinkler timer. ryan On 4/30/14, 12:06 PM, Sam wrote: What do you guy use for small NEMA waterproof enclosures? These would be the size to hold three UBNT PoE and a small (four-port) switch and corresponding AC adapter, and an electrical block with four receptacles for plugging in the aforementioned items. Thanks, Sam ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- D. Ryan Spott | Iron Goat Networks, llc broadband | telco | colo | community PO Box 1232 / 603 W. Stevens Sultan, WA 98284 360-799-0552 | gtalk: rsp...@irongoat.net ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] OT Email Receipt
Make your emails html based and place a graphic in them with a GUID When the end user opens the mail and wants to view the contents they will download the graphic from your server. People can still opt out of downloading the graphic but if it is a critical part of the mail then they really have no choice. ryan On 4/2/14 7:04 AM, wi...@mncomm.com wrote: My owners asked this. Is there a way or a protocol that will allow you to be notified that an email recipient received or viewed your email, even if they refuse to acknowledge notification receipt? I don't think there is but they seem to think they read something a while back thanks heith ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- D. Ryan Spott | Iron Goat Networks, llc broadband | telco | colo | community PO Box 1232 / 603 W. Stevens Sultan, WA 98284 360-799-0552 | gtalk: rsp...@irongoat.net ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth/Performance Test
I liked the speedtests that are based off of fancy speedtest but I did not like the fact that I could not see historical speedtest data. I edited it to collect data on any customer running the speedtest. I have a few customers that will call and freak out over slow speedtests until I looked and saw they were running the test over and over and over again with good results and then they would get a bad one, stop testing, and call me! After I told them I had a record of all of the tests suddenly the monthly race to get a bad test (and ask for a credit!) would stop! http://www.irongoat.net/tranzeofaq/speedtest2.zip This test shows your customer the last 5 speedtests and allows you, the admin to see ALL of the speedtests performed. You will need to muck around a bit to setup the mysql username/passwords. ryan On 3/15/14 4:49 PM, David Williamson wrote: Yeah, I'd like that script, too. David *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Art Stephens *Sent:* Thursday, March 06, 2014 5:11 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth/Performance Test Care to share to script? On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 8:25 AM, Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net mailto:the...@wmwisp.net wrote: There is a very basic one on my web site that sounds like what you describe... www.wmwisp.net/speedtest/speedtest.php http://www.wmwisp.net/speedtest/speedtest.php -- On 3/6/2014 9:30 AM, Sam wrote: Good Morning Folks! Years ago, I remember installing a bandwidth tester on one of the Linux boxes I had running at the WISP my wife and I owned. For the life of me I cannot remember the name of it. Do any of you have one you like enough to recommend? Basically I'd like for it to sit in the base of a tower so the users consuming bandwidth from that tower can measure their speed without touching my upstream provider - they can measure how fast and at what capacity my equipment is providing them with service from this server at the base of the tower to their equipment at their home or business. Hopefully this makes sense Thanks, Sam ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- West Michigan Wireless ISP Allegan, Michigan 49010 269-686-8648 tel:269-686-8648 A Division of: Camp Communication Services, INC ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Arthur Stephens Senior Networking Technician Ptera Inc. PO Box 135 24001 E Mission Suite 50 Liberty Lake, WA 99019 509-927-7837 ptera.com http://ptera.com facebook.com/PteraInc http://facebook.com/PteraInc | twitter.com/Ptera http://twitter.com/Ptera - This message may contain confidential and/or propriety information, and is intended for the person/entity to whom it was originally addressed. Any use by others is strictly prohibited. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and are not intended to represent those of the company. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies?
I would be happy to drive out there to give you a hand Arthur. ryan On 2/10/14 9:19 AM, Marlon Schafer (509.982.2181) wrote: I'm with Forrest here. Back in the back ol' days of everyone running amps (we had to back then in many cases) some vendors loved to sell more power. More power means faster service at longer ranges right? WRONG. Carrier to interference level is where your speed and distance comes from. The high power systems, as Forrest says, cause the radios to produce much more *detectable* power outside their main band. That power outside the main band causes the interference. It was always a struggle, but when I used to do interference I convinced many WISPs that LOWER powers would actually improve the performance of their networks. It was nearly 100% true. In the rare cases when lower power levels didn't work it was because people were trying to use higher powers to over-ride physics and go through trees, buildings etc. One very important note here. If you do try lower power levels you'll have to lower ALL of the devices back down to reasonable levels (RSSI should be between --65 and --75 for most modern radios to perform their best, --55 will work but see the above notes about self inflicted interference). A quick check is to shut down all of your AP's in an area and see what the noise goes to. Oh yeah, very few radios really report accurate interference information. If you are checking those levels via anything other than a real spectrum analyzer you'll likely find out that there are also other things happening in your area. Call if you'd like and we can talk this out a bit more. 509.988.0260 laters, marlon *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account) mailto:li...@packetflux.com *Sent:* Sunday, February 09, 2014 9:53 AM *To:* WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Are we being muscled out of the 5265 - 5700 frequencies? I'm going to agree with others... Running outside legal limits doesn't look good to the FCC, and it sounds like you are definitely running outside the limits since you are whining about the ability to run your radios in a mode which seems to have no use than to exceed the limits. I will also add that if you're running all your radios hotter than they should be that your nose floor problem is most likely self inflicted. My experience over the years is that radios are designed to run at a specific tx power and if you're exceeding it you get a lot of out of channel bleed over. Even if the radios don't do this you are introducing far more rf than is likely needed causing an overall rising of the noise floor. Please don't interpret everyone's ire incorrectly. We've just all either dealt with an operator like you are now or have been an operator like you are now. And right now we're trying to gain credibility with the FCC which is hard to do when some operators are flagrantly breaking the rules. Which makes us a bit grumpy. I'm sure some of your neighbors out there would love to help you better understand what you are doing to yourself and help you improve your operations which will in turn improve your quality of service. Heck, I'd drive over there for a weekend if my schedule wasn't so packed. In any case please ask for help in appropriate spots and let us help you reap the rewards of a correctly and legally operating network. On Feb 8, 2014 4:49 PM, Art Stephens asteph...@ptera.com mailto:asteph...@ptera.com wrote: Recent events make me wonder if the FCC is trying to muscle wisps out of these frequencies. Since we are primarily Ubiquiti equipment I can only speak from that platform. First the latest firmware update removes compliance test which for about 40% of our equipment deployed would render them unusable since 5735 - 5840 runs at - 50dBm or higher noise levels in our area, Second is new product released only supports 5735 - 5840. Seems like DFS is such a pain that manufacturers do not want to mess with it. Case in point the new NanoBeam M series only support 5725-5850 for USA. Worldwide version which we are not allowed to buy or deploy supports 5170-5875. Seems the only alternative is to go with licensed P2MP which makes more money for the FCC and drives the cost of wireless internet up for both wisps and consumers. -- Arthur Stephens Senior Networking Technician Ptera Inc. PO Box 135 24001 E Mission Suite 50 Liberty Lake, WA 99019 509-927-7837 tel:509-927-7837 ptera.com http://ptera.com facebook.com/PteraInc http://facebook.com/PteraInc | twitter.com/Ptera http://twitter.com/Ptera - This message may contain confidential and/or propriety information, and is intended for the person/entity to whom it was originally addressed. Any use by others is strictly prohibited.
Re: [WISPA] WAN Optimization products for Medical Imaging / Radiology ?
Take a look at Riverbed steelhead and their software/appliances. They are very open to loaning you equipment for weeks on end for testing. The setup is so simple it is not even funny. http://www.riverbed.com/products-solutions/products/wan-optimization-steelhead/ ryan On 1/24/14 2:46 PM, Brad Belton wrote: We're very familiar with PACS. Not sure what if anything you need to do unless the network is congested. Typically the remote user will either have a pptp or ipsec tunnel back to the server/network. The bandwidth the remote user has available to them (at home, hotel etc.) will obviously vary depending on what they are using. The images will simply move faster with higher bandwidth connections and slower with lower bandwidth connections. Brad *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Gino Villarini *Sent:* Friday, January 24, 2014 12:21 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] WAN Optimization products for Medical Imaging / Radiology ? Looking for a way for remote Radiology Dr can use low BW Internet connections (5-10 Mbps) for remote PACS reading, Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Eric Rogers *Sent:* Friday, January 24, 2014 1:58 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] WAN Optimization products for Medical Imaging / Radiology ? Gino, Can you be more specific? I came from a regional hospital chain, and they did everything from their downtown Data Center, and all hospitals had gig connectivity. Even the bar-code readers had serial to Ethernet extenders, so even the serial scanners were IP to the servers. Eric Rogers Precision Data Solutions, LLC (317) 831-3000 x200 *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Gino Villarini *Sent:* Friday, January 24, 2014 11:16 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* [WISPA] WAN Optimization products for Medical Imaging / Radiology ? Anyone has any experiece with products for this application? ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] remote employees
+1 to this. I was party to a case where the employer was giving out stock options for overtime submitted during on-call time and other time. Labor law goes for triple damages. [(amount not paid + interest + fines) * 3] The lawyer summed up FLSA and overtime like this: You can pay 1 chicken per hour if you wish. No US dollars needed. As long as your employee and you agree on this exchange. If your employee works ANY overtime then you must pay normal overtime wages (1.5X normal pay). You MUST use US DOLLARS! If you were paying in chickens then the US Dollar equivalent would be a standard cost of a chicken in USD * 1.5. ryan On 1/23/14 8:30 AM, Hass, Douglas A. wrote: On-call programs are one of the three most common areas (after independent contractor/employee misclassifications and salary/overtime issues) that tech companies, including WISPs, get tripped up on regularly. It is possible, but certainly not guaranteed, that you can pay someone a lower on call rate or some flat rate for being on call. */_Remember that it does not matter AT ALL if you and your employee/contractor have agreed on how to handle pay/on-call/overtime_/*. If your pay plan violates state and federal law, you are still liable (BOTH personally AND as a business---no hiding behind the corporate veil here) and state and federal agencies can still audit and fine you, even if your employee doesn't care! Speaking generally, under the federal Fair Labor Standards Act, they key issue in determining whether an employee is working while on call is whether the employee is engaged to wait or waiting to be engaged. Generally speaking, if an employee is required to somewhere specific during certain hours and is not free to leave, then even if the employee spends the time sleeping or reading a magazine the time is considered work time. (There is an exception to this rule for employees with shifts of at least 24 hours - in that case, an employer can, by agreement with the employee, deduct no more than 8 hours for sleeping time.) On the other hand, if an employee merely has to be available to respond to a call by cell phone, or to report to a worksite within a /reasonable/ period of time, but is otherwise _legitimately_ free to go about his or her personal activities, then the time will not be considered work time. Of course, any time spent actually responding to calls that do come in would be considered work time and would have to be compensated as such. Exactly where this line is drawn can be fuzzy. For example, if an employee is expected to report to work within 15 minutes of receiving an emergency call, that short response time may severely limit the employee's ability to go about his or her personal activities, and may result in the on-call time being considered work time. Exactly how long the response time would need to be, however, will depend upon various factors such as location and commuting distances. Please make sure that you've had someone review your on-call program, along with any contractor relationships or salary pay plans you have. If you don't have a written legal opinion, please get one. Even small errors here can add up quickly and result in massive liability for your WISP. Doug Douglas**A.**Hass Associate 312.786.6502 d...@franczek.com Franczek Radelet P.C./ *Celebrating 20 Years | *//*1994-2014 * /300 South Wacker Drive Suite 3400 Chicago, IL 60606 312.986.0300 - Main 312.986.9192 - Fax www.franczek.com http://www.franczek.com/ /Franczek Radelet is committed to sustainability - please consider the environment before printing this email / /Circular 230 Disclosure: Under requirements imposed by the Internal Revenue Service, we inform you that, unless specifically stated otherwise, any federal tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purposes of (i) avoiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or tax-related matter herein. / For more information about Franczek Radelet P.C., please visit franczek.com. The information contained in this e-mail message or any attachment may be confidential and/or privileged, and is intended only for the use of the named recipient. If you are not the named recipient of this message, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message or any attachment thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender and delete all copies. *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *James Howard *Sent:*
Re: [WISPA] remote employees
It is more a management issue than a remote employee issue. Get some sort of IM system that shows availability. (Skype, AIM etc) This allows everyone to know where everyone is all the time. If it supports video and screen sharing then even better. Be flexible on hours and focus on him more like a salaried employee. Have him work within your daily core hours but allow for late arrival or taking time off in the middle of the day to do something for his kid or working late or whatever as long as things average out to around 40 hours a week... They will normally average around 45-50 if you are generous. Arrange for quarterly or half yearly trips back to the farm so everyone can see everyone else get beers etc. If you do this well and your employee gets used to working from home with all of the freedoms it give him then you will not have to give this guy a raise for a long time as other jobs will not be able to compete. ryan On 1/22/14 5:27 PM, heith petersen wrote: I have a tech who does real light field work, who mostly works at a desk in my office. He usually handles the customer BS, like phone tech support above what we let our held desk handle, as well as radio configuration and updates and support to my field techs. Due to recent personal issues he is moving 4 hours away. We figure, since he doesn't have a job yet and can get good high speed service, we might try to do a gig with us remotely. I would tunnel him into the net, access to billing, and a VoIP phone to our system, basically use him just like I do now, just no physical presence. Anyone else doing this or have past experience with this? If so, was it positive or total nightmare? We are trying to figure out how to base compensation. Right now he is hourly, I can see time tracking could be a pain. In reality he could just sit there and play solitaire all day if I don't have any calls for him or any network upgrades. Anyways I appreciate your thoughts. I lean on him pretty hard to take care of BS that I shouldn't have to deal with. Without him I see some pretty long days ahead. And I cant afford to keep a field tech in the office, though I have a guy that would rather sit on ass and talk to customers as opposed to doing field work. thanks heith ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] HAM colo costs
For those of you that own towers or just know... What do HAM operators usually get charged for colocation? ryan ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Ethernet over power lines (not the failed power company BPL trials)
In trailer parks and RV parks we use them to move bandwidth out to the far edges of the park. This helps us get past the big metal signal blocking RVs. They DO NOT work past or through a transformer. ryan On 12/28/13 6:49 AM, ralph wrote: I am writing this because I just read an old thread from around 9/20/13 on AFMUG in which BPL was being discussed. I'm no longer on that list due to the amount of traffic, but I'd like to discuss it more here. A. The failed power company BPL trials were a unique technology. However the frequencies used were not compatible with both Amateur Radio and with International broadcasters. They were shut down due to much lobbying from both groups as well as several technical and economic challenges. It also still required WiFi of some type to get the signal from the pole/transformer to the end user. Good riddance to them and their noisy interference! B. But the technology that has proven to be useful is more localized: Home Power Line Networking. Check out https://www.homeplug.org/home/ There is a lot of potential for us in these devices. They originally began as Home Plug which carried data at up to at 14 Mbps back in 2001. They have a newer, more robust standard called Homeplug AV and supposedly is good for 200 Mbps. We have tested them for a year and have been (or plan to be) experimenting with several applications: 1. We do a lot of Marinas. We already have our WiFi APs plugged in to AC at each dock. We will use HPAV to deliver hardwired connectivity to those who don't want to use WiFi. 2. We do Muni WiFi. Since we are already on the poles and have access to the power company secondary, we may plug in a unit along with our other devices in the box on the pole. This will allow us to deliver hardwire connectivity to at least half the houses on that transformer. So in a lot of cases it will be useful. 3. We do MDUs. Same rationale as #2, but equipment closets instead of poles. Yes we know all about the transformer issue. It will eliminate some potential users, but we are on a lot of poles and in a lot of closets. In some cases we can access both legs of the single phase line anyway. We can send the customer to many places both local and online to get their home unit. Here is the only rub: All the units I have tried require the two units to be married You can have many units on a network but their security requires the users to press a button to synch the with the master one. This is actually setting an AES security key And you have to press a button on the master each time you add a remote. I am calling them master and remote here, but the units are identical. I'm using the term to differentiate between the home unit and the one on the pole. Someone did tell me of a set they tried that just worked In most of my applications, the AES security does not matter- remember the core system is an open WiFi network anyway. I would rather users be able to use a simple, easy to obtain unit. With the newer paired units having that preset, it may knock out some flexibility. These may be what the person referenced above may have had. What I really want to see a manufacturer come out with is a manageable unit we can put as the base. Similar to a WiFi AP, we could do authorizing (similar to MAC authentication or like DOCSIS cable modems are remotely activated with the CMTS) of remote devices on the same line. Customer plugs in, calls up, gives address of his unit and we authorize it. If they don't pay, they get shut off. Of course we could stock and ship units that were preset with our AES code, but it would be a nightmare keeping all that straight as well as an investment in equipment we wouldn't want to make. As I said, there is lots of potential in Home Plug AV right now, and even more if the equipment becomes a little more flexible. I'm just putting the ideas out there. Anyone else using them or planning to use them in novel ways. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators
*Someone* lives in Florida and does not need a Snowcat or Snowmachine to get to his sites... Sometimes paying a little extra for always on and always working is a good thing. The maintenance on the TEG I have running is: light let run for 1-5 years clean jets relight repeat. No moving parts and always working is a bonus. :) ryan On 11/26/13 9:25 AM, Scott Carullo wrote: Remember, I can buy 4 7Kw gensets instead of the one tiny TEG :) Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 *From*: D. Ryan Spott rsp...@irongoat.net *Sent*: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 12:15 AM *To*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators Who was this from? Remember there is ZERO maintenance on a TEG. ryan On 11/25/13 9:04 PM, Mike Lyon wrote: So i heard back on pricing today for the 100 watt propane TEG. $7960 plus a $300 mount. It's a cool idea but a Generac 7kw propane genset for $1900 with free Amazon Prime shipping seems to be a better deal... -Mike ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators
On 11/26/13 10:37 AM, Mike Lyon wrote: Which TEG do you have? I have 2 active and 2 in the shop Telan 50 series. They are no longer made but if you find them used snag them! :) Global is pretty much the only game in town unless you to with an RTG... but they are really only in the tundra of AK: http://ota-cdn.fas.org/reports/9423.pdf or somewhere way past Pluto: http://voyager.jpl.nasa.gov/spacecraft/instruments_rtg.html :) ryan On Nov 26, 2013, at 10:26, D. Ryan Spott rsp...@irongoat.net mailto:rsp...@irongoat.net wrote: *Someone* lives in Florida and does not need a Snowcat or Snowmachine to get to his sites... Sometimes paying a little extra for always on and always working is a good thing. The maintenance on the TEG I have running is: light let run for 1-5 years clean jets relight repeat. No moving parts and always working is a bonus. :) ryan On 11/26/13 9:25 AM, Scott Carullo wrote: Remember, I can buy 4 7Kw gensets instead of the one tiny TEG :) Scott Carullo Technical Operations 855-FLSPEED x102 *From*: D. Ryan Spott rsp...@irongoat.net *Sent*: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 12:15 AM *To*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators Who was this from? Remember there is ZERO maintenance on a TEG. ryan On 11/25/13 9:04 PM, Mike Lyon wrote: So i heard back on pricing today for the 100 watt propane TEG. $7960 plus a $300 mount. It's a cool idea but a Generac 7kw propane genset for $1900 with free Amazon Prime shipping seems to be a better deal... -Mike ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators
Even north of fairbanks Propane does not have much of an issue. Insulate and enclose for success. I use a 1500 gal tank so I can get the 1000+ gal discount. They even apply this discount to my home propane purchases for the rest of the year! ryan On 11/26/13 12:48 PM, Terry Hickey wrote: In my case, the propane was in various sized tanks from 100 gal Pig tanks to 1000 gal tanks depending on access. The most remote ones we used 100 gal pigs (14 per site ) and used helicopters to fly the propane. Made for more trips but the cost of the helicopter to fly big tanks was horrendous. Tanks were out in the weather but the lines and regulators were either in the shack with the TEGS or covered and insulated. Average winter temp without wind was about --10 F dipping to about --45 F. Not sure what the wind chill was. The people that bought the system augmented it with solar and wind (varying success with the wind as they could not keep impellers in the generators). It has been a couple of years so I am not sure of their present configuration or success. *From:* Mike Hammett mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net *Sent:* Tuesday, November 26, 2013 1:33 PM *To:* WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators No, it's in tanks that are the size of a medium sized car... outside. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com *From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Sent: *Tuesday, November 26, 2013 2:27:26 PM *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators Is the propane in a heated environment? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 3:24 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: I guess all of those homes that use propane to heat their homes with its 20 below zero don't exist. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com *From: *Christopher Erickson christopher.k.erick...@gmail.com mailto:christopher.k.erick...@gmail.com *To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org *Sent: *Tuesday, November 26, 2013 12:20:24 PM *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators Yes, it DOES matter how cold it is. Propane won't create gas pressure below -43.6F and many propane gas pressure regulators will ice up and stop working below about +20F. This isn't a problem for many locations but it is still important to know what the limits are. Christopher Erickson Consulting Engineer Summit Kinetics Waikoloa, HI 96738 www.summitkinetics.com http://www.summitkinetics.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Terry Hickey Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 8:06 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators I had 5120 TEGS powering 7 mountaintop sites for about 8 years before I sold the system. As long as there is propane, they work. No moving parts, very little maintenance. It doesn't matter how cold or hot it is, they just work . Simple power that provides heat for the radio shack as well. Terry -Original Message- From: D. Ryan Spott Sent: Monday, November 25, 2013 10:15 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators Who was this from? Remember there is ZERO maintenance on a TEG. ryan On 11/25/13 9:04 PM, Mike Lyon wrote: So i heard back on pricing today for the 100 watt propane TEG. $7960 plus a $300 mount. It's a cool idea but a Generac 7kw propane genset for $1900 with free Amazon Prime shipping seems to be a better deal... -Mike ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org mailto:Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4158 / Virus Database: 3629/6863 - Release Date: 11/24/13
Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators
Who was this from? Remember there is ZERO maintenance on a TEG. ryan On 11/25/13 9:04 PM, Mike Lyon wrote: So i heard back on pricing today for the 100 watt propane TEG. $7960 plus a $300 mount. It's a cool idea but a Generac 7kw propane genset for $1900 with free Amazon Prime shipping seems to be a better deal... -Mike ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] question for the group
I have never seen this enforced in my limited experience. Most manufacturers have classes you can attend to become a 'professional'. ryan On 9/19/13 7:53 PM, Chris Stradtman wrote: Hi all, Most of my work is done inside so I don't really deal with most of the WISP issues. However I'm being asked by a client to do an outside install. This is likely to be in the 5Ghz range. I've found a reference to Devices must be professionally installed when operating in the 5470 -- 5725 MHz band I'm aware of avoidance of TDWR systems and the allowed and disallowed frequencies in that band. However, I can't find reference to what is meant by a Professional Installer. Is there a licensing program that I can't seem to find by googling?? Thanks in advance, Chris Stradtman ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] DISH Network Dropping Us
Would it be possible for WISPA to become a master reseller ala NRTC? ryan On 12/27/2012 1:07 PM, Paul Diem wrote: We signed up as a DISH Network reseller back in 2010 when they were approaching WISP's. We've averaged around 3+ new DISH installs per month. Last month we received notice that we have not met their minimum requirements and our reseller account will be terminated on 12/31. Our install volume is not huge because we mainly sell to our new and existing and customers We have used their co-op marketing program as well. Our old account manager would tell us our sales were great. Our new account manager has been nothing but a pain. I can't imagine they have much expense by maintaining us as a reseller. I know other WISP's became DISH resellers around that time. Has anyone else been dropped as a reseller by DISH? -- Paul C Diem pcd...@foxvalley.net ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] Contractor Needed
Try this: http://cabletv.org/mailman/listinfo/cabletv-list or this: cabl.com ryan On 12/13/2012 12:41 PM, Jay DeBoer wrote: We are looking for a contractor to handle 3 Cable TV system in Southern Indiana. Responsibilities would range from Installs to line work to Head-Ends. If Interested please Contact: Patty Coleman GM of Operations Summit Digital pcole...@summitdigital.us 231-908-0032 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] tranzeo management
You mean upload from the radio? yeah, you can use curl to do this. Take a look at tranzeofaq.com the autoconfig.txt file: http://tranzeofaq.com/autoconfig.txt You could shape things like this: http://username:password@192.168.1.100/set_config.cgi?net.router.qos.enabled=Yesnet.router.qos.uplink_speed=4096admin.cmd=storeadmin.cmd=reboot Let me know if I can help in some other way. ryan On 10/13/2012 12:55 PM, Jay DeBoer wrote: Does anyone know how to centrally manage bandwidth shaping on tranzeo cpq and sl2 series radios? ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] What is everybody using for alarms?
Nagios does this quite well. ryan On Sep 24, 2011, at 4:35 AM, Paolo Di Francesco paolo.difrance...@level7.it wrote: Hi Ed I was looking also for something that sends one report email in case of failure when multiple nodes are down. If 50 nodes are down and part of the network is cut out, I will receive 50 emails. I would prefer one email that summarize what went down and what when up, i.e. the state change when occurs. anybody has found something with this approach? Thank you Have been using the Dude as my production monitor for over 3 years, works great. Monitoring DS3 and wireless backhauls, Metro-E, wireless and DSL subs. Also Routers, switches and server services. Ed Spoon Manager of Internet Services triparish.net http://triparish.net / cajun.net http://cajun.net Member: FISPA / WISPA Ph: 985-879-3219 / Fax: 985-876-6789 Computer Sales Services, Inc. On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Paolo Di Francesco paolo.difrance...@level7.it mailto:paolo.difrance...@level7.it wrote: hum.. I don't know... I tested the dude a couple of years ago and it had the bad habit to reset the configuration, but maybe it was the unstability of the version Do you have it in production without any issue? Thank you Dude. It e-mails, creates sounds, and even tells you where the problem is! *--- **_Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer_** **Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services Office*: 314-735-0270 tel:314-735-0270 tel:314-735-0270 tel:314-735-0270 *Website*: http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ */LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training http://www.onlinemikrotiktraining.com/ - Author of Learn RouterOS http://routerosbook.com//* *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Nick Olsen *Sent:* Monday, September 19, 2011 9:48 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] What is everybody using for alarms? We use PRTG, The latest one. We watch the web client for down devices, And the important stuff alerts us via email and text message. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 *From*: Paolo Di Francesco paolo.difrance...@level7.it mailto:paolo.difrance...@level7.it *Sent*: Monday, September 19, 2011 10:46 AM *To*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org *Subject*: [WISPA] What is everybody using for alarms? Hi all I am curious to know what kind of alarm system you have implemented to see when a link/router is no more reachable on the net. Nagios or similar? any hint would be appreciated :) thank you -- Ing. Paolo Di Francesco Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo C.F. e P.IVA 05940050825 Fax : +39-091-8772072 tel:%2B39-091-8772072 assistenza: (+39) 091-8776432 tel:%28%2B39%29%20091-8776432 web: http://www.level7.it WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Ing. Paolo Di Francesco Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo C.F. e P.IVA 05940050825 Fax : +39-091-8772072 tel:%2B39-091-8772072 assistenza: (+39) 091-8776432 tel:%28%2B39%29%20091-8776432 web: http://www.level7.it WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You!
[WISPA] Bullet2M HP
ANYONE know of ANY in stock? ryan WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Redboot help
The NS2s can be odd.. You have to pretty much keep booting them while running the open-mesh-flash.exe app from a windoze machine. I sometimes have to reboot the NS2 3 or 4 times to get it happy. ryan -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Charles N Wyble Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 2:02 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Redboot help -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Anyone here successfully modified redboot configuration? On a nanostation2? Turns out they don't have telnet on by default. I executed fconfig -w -d /dev/mtd6 -n bootp_my_ip -x 192.168.1.1 and now I get Config verification failed anytime I try to perform an operation on the red boot configuration. Help! I've got all 4 of my nanostations flashed with OpenWRT. Now I want to flash them with the ROBIN mesh firmware. Or does anyone know how to get a mesh operational on stock OpenWRT? I've tried for a few days and can't get it working. ROBIN mesh seems like the way to go. And of course I can't flash firmware from the OpenWRT web interface cause it only accepts the .trx files. Can anyone help? Thanks! - -- Charles N Wyble (char...@knownelement.com) Systems craftsman for the stars http://www.knownelement.com Mobile: 626 539 4344 Office: 310 929 8793 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJNTHdJAAoJEMvvG/TyLEAt52IP/0+cH14wQhrGSdOoTBrh+xoT IbVNoEvsiipl0GD2iVX+gqNQEPMIoHDLiHP7d+pVlBrVRgsqClAQY8ad8EsWeCmb H83zF+8oUm6WQBtstC7EMUQC3jVUb5Zy11z2iAF+WZTsawzL14Ver7IjkZCywzQw Ssxt+UDneXB8O+mcrpTwHu9rUP98cRCjWty9ywaeZiQg/NpGn0dE1hhkM0LLJesb J4gO3PVaIn9476Kr/wDmBJ6fASaezQE8CCWFijYTVNHaBcyR3F9aEhbJMT6HOjrh Llh9CqMpX++q2Y5ymrY2EvXmrGzImysVmM8vQtawXH4iFDfuoDWdNOtEWG3R2UTd ORIf6KZKVdvv3pyFXEPnjV0H6mlpA+WS1wIzpM2ejmLmQTYlKthOACrw0SUUTeM+ +RjvzcKn3GpZvmymzciEjTFUqzgiskehbIzHZm7iTQfDL/qMwuDTR99WgxIlAQy2 Jd9OmdQ7SjMFqcyGwqluBHm5tg3tkWSP2wdXyRuhezAXafE8oRNM7byoLHQeOokv oO22ido4VXyYA9nz9WCPO377suywim8yBoxXZuFxrNFGI8KYDhhk+Aspz2uWYO8Y 0eeoQkheYcV+RhbTU9E+5hPbQbgr9rOuuAmlbDgFjUu5tQcDOtqNdTA5oShaxu7G 5b4YTk0ngcbkiztYvbYA =Mnv3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Redboot help
It should not matter. IIRC when the device boots it is pre-insert firmware here. ryan -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Charles N Wyble Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 2:17 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Redboot help -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 You did this from stock ubnt firmware? Or post openwrt flash? Or... On 02/04/2011 02:09 PM, D. Ryan Spott wrote: The NS2s can be odd.. You have to pretty much keep booting them while running the open-mesh-flash.exe app from a windoze machine. I sometimes have to reboot the NS2 3 or 4 times to get it happy. ryan -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Charles N Wyble Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 2:02 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Redboot help Anyone here successfully modified redboot configuration? On a nanostation2? Turns out they don't have telnet on by default. I executed fconfig -w -d /dev/mtd6 -n bootp_my_ip -x 192.168.1.1 and now I get Config verification failed anytime I try to perform an operation on the red boot configuration. Help! I've got all 4 of my nanostations flashed with OpenWRT. Now I want to flash them with the ROBIN mesh firmware. Or does anyone know how to get a mesh operational on stock OpenWRT? I've tried for a few days and can't get it working. ROBIN mesh seems like the way to go. And of course I can't flash firmware from the OpenWRT web interface cause it only accepts the .trx files. Can anyone help? Thanks! - - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - -- Charles N Wyble (char...@knownelement.com) Systems craftsman for the stars http://www.knownelement.com Mobile: 626 539 4344 Office: 310 929 8793 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJNTHqcAAoJEMvvG/TyLEAtSksP/34glUH/pydfmOTDPxpjVf7F CxWHmk8b38FbhYHs8wCYsXj9ZEBKIOLi+IqlMHHB8PLMtnk5V1mEI/CJZVQtsHAD nqVQPxa80K5qFv/jBmEE463aV1t5bIzA823EkkvK56dpSSz8Tx0JkzfzuWVMuU90 sdzme55/UXoCvEsJ2SR35pS7tiloDmlpOEvZKMMQpIUSzCeCPU4mpeTJgisx6PGl /b65Sv660gQoN/CI8xVNtuozmSWdSybQ9nBw6fmzA1CgoXYVARin5p3c7KuerlIl 4KIDcAm3pzl4cx8wSMSbWQ7Bm5SxRV6Ap7eq6+DDY9U9OeEf2bAe5j+okO8C7j1z xIEIOitA+SBlLqPOXvTaa99SsFsnyPgq3MNunU1eAdvkdDUWEMNl3hoPnQDKA7+9 SgH09FLQl9SZpB9u2+zECPcp7t4xiuPzLrYd1naa58LrATBlvAny2zRQnPGsPWGG K0TplbakCCky2uBCnBvXWSh9ndCUxTO/dNli32KnVFrUXfiCUY2SfQLESp19y0PV 7ieoN1Gq1K7kuZQmBhbeJgraEtCh2TP3kRaO05bgWawrf2gdh2B7jJQ9P9ok+OBu e+uxgoX5YSpFKpeo/RLoDRww3N2QRzmCx/Q7a85fQkG2o1n4OWMWNkei5vaHrk4E Wwl7MLzegKVl8KeQB9Xr =R16e -END PGP SIGNATURE- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo and Ubnt
Ugh... I had 900 stuck in my head... I meant an SL-2! :) ryan On Jan 30, 2011, at 4:59 AM, Phil Curnutt wrote: CPQ-19= AirGrid 2G20 HP SL9=NanoStation Loco Phil WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Dropping Clients
Do you have any sort of trending for this site? Mrtg? Cacti? Tranzeo has snmp OIDs for signal and noise. ryan On Nov 21, 2010, at 4:53 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: Spoke to soon, starting to drop clients. From: ~NGL~ Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2010 4:28 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dropping Clients Been up 23 hours since I changed channels, no dropped clients or other problems. Keeping my fingers crossed. NGL From: RickG Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 8:35 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dropping Clients I understand that. I hope the frequency change helps. Let us know. On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 8:15 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: Your partially right Tower is only 65 foot, but difficult to get to in good weather using a quad, and it has been raining all day. No one want to climb a tower in the rain. I have changed channel and it seems to be stable. I hope! NGL Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 4:43 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dropping Clients I take it the tower is fairly high so you're resisting climbing to swap it out? On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 12:28 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: Noise was the same as it always is 91 - 94 range, and is the same this morning. We had some light rain yesterday started about noon, and rained on and off, the same thing this morning. We had some very hard rain and strong winds the end of October, and encountered no problems. I am going to try switching channels with another AP on that tower . NGL From: Bret Clark Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 9:14 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dropping Clients Did it rain recently? We had a similar problem where the antenna was not sealed tight and everytime it rained hard clients would drop off, but after a few hours of sun shining on the system they'd be fine until the next heavy rain storm. The thing that threw us off was that light or normal rain that didn't last long didn't seem to affect the antenna, only heavy rain with maybe some wind thrown in the mix. Then on a different note, we've recently been battling an issue where on one of our 5GH systems clients were all dropping off at very random times...Turn out damn BAE systems down the road was testing frequency hopping radar crap and every time it hopped into the frequency we were using, the clients dropped off. On 11/20/2010 12:02 PM, ~NGL~ wrote: All the clients came back on line about 10 pm last night. and are still on line this morning. I donât get it! The AP is a TR-902 11f which has an internal antenna. The clients that were were dropped were a mix of nearest and furthest from the AP. Thanx NGL From: Phil Curnutt Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 6:51 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dropping Clients Put a power meter between the AP radio and the antenna and make sure the radio is putting out the power it should. Also check the SWR, should be about 1.3/5. I would guess that the clients being dropped are the ones furthest away, if the AP is losing power or the antenna is wet or damaged and losing signal. Phil On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 10:41 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Yes. Since you said it has now dropped 15 of 20 that are connected to that AP. I would suspect there is an issue with that AP. I'd swap it out with a known good AP and see if that helps. Otherwise, you may be having some interference issues on that sector which would mean you'll need a cavity filter. On that note, can you run a spectrum scan to see? On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 12:32 AM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: Do you mean the AP? It still works with 7 clients now. NGL From: RickG Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 8:12 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dropping Clients swap the suspect unit out with a known working unit. On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 9:29 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: I have 4 TR-902 AP's on a tower 3 are working fine, 1 has been dropping clients at the rate of 1 every 5 minuets it has now dropped 15 of 20 that are connected to that AP. I have rebooted the AP and some of the clients, with no success. I have no idea what is wrong. Now I see that 2 have come back.. Any suggestions? Thanx NGL mime-attachment.gifIf you can read this Thank A Teacher. And if it's in English Thank A Soldier! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today!
Re: [WISPA] Monitoring batteries
I use a superRMS 2 from these guys: http://www.remotemonitoringsystems.ca/ The software they put on these things is just a little more polished than the packetflux stuff. I use both and love the cost of the packetflux equipment. Http://www.irongoat.net/sites/mtsultan is a private link that let's some of my partners see what is going on with the site. The wiring diagrams might be of use to you. ryan On Oct 26, 2010, at 3:42 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: What is available to monitor a solar site via the net. We have 2 remote tower powered by solar and would like to monitor them via the web. Thanx NGL flag.gifIf you can read this Thank A Teacher. And if it's in English Thank A Soldier! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] P2P/copyright notifications for RLC students
Did you bill PeerMedia Technologies for your time to deliver this to the end user?ryan On Friday, October 22, 2010 at 7:21 AM, David E. Smith wrote: I just received three notices of claimed copyright infringement for students at RLC. I've attached them (and named the files after the account IDs responsible). I've reduced these students' accounts to 128kbps for now. Please contact these students and discipline them according to your TOS. The student IDs in question are downingel (yes, I got two emails about him) and gordonta.David SmithMVN.net-- David SmithMVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wirel...@wispa.orgsubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Attachments: - downingel.txt - gordonta.txt - downingel2.txt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Digital Loggers script
Gimme an ip/username and password and I'll make your life more exciting! ;)
ryan
On Jul 14, 2010, at 6:37 PM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote:
Ryan:
I will check into if that works for me. Unfortunately, if I had a day to
spare Iâd wash my Jeep, Roundup the lane, and get a massage. I may have to
wait a bit of have a sleepless night soon. Thanks!
Friendly Regards,
Mike
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Ryan Spott
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 10:40 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Digital Loggers script
Or, use the perl script they seem to pimp in their FAQ:
http://www.digital-loggers.com/files/uu4.zip
Something along the lines of:
Usage: UserUtil Host[:port] login:password [n]{on|off|pulse|status}
Examples:
192.168.0.100:80 admin:1234 5on
192.168.0.100:80 admin:1234 status
192.168.0.100:80 admin:1234 *off
Does that work?
ryan
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 3:05 AM, Philip Dorr wirel...@judgementgaming.com
wrote:
If it is a HTTP interface then you might be able to use curl to talk
to the device.
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 4:44 AM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote:
Well yeah, I know that. What I would like to do is if this and this or
this then do that. I can write Awk code or something to do that, but I have
never talked to a digital logger with its native language. Have you?
Friendly Regards,
Mike
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 10:37 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Digital Loggers script
It's built in. Just have it ping the device (or a device on the far side of
a link) and set the auto ping to cycle that outlet.
marlon
- Original Message -
From: Mike m...@aweiowa.com
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 4:59 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Digital Loggers script
Does anyone have a way to control a Digital Loggers Ethernet switch they
would share? I want to be able to say create a batch file or small
executable to power cycle certain ports.
Thanks, Mike
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Re: [WISPA] Burying Cable
This is easy... Explain to your customer that you do not trench and you have to run cable across the yard. Lay the cable out and tell them to bury it. I tell my customers to bury the cable buy placing a shovel in the sod and just cutting down far enough to get under the sod. Then stuff in the wire. This technique does not apply if the customer: Runs horses as lawn mowers. Uses one of those 'aerating' machines. discs the yard (yes, this has happened) Have 'digging' dogs... or Black labs (black labs LOVE outdoor cable) I allow for one splice for free for the above. Additional trips cost money. ryan On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 8:13 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: Other than renting or buying a small trenching machine (That I'm sure I'd use to slice every cable and natural gas/water/sewage line within 20 feet of me the first time I use it) I'm interested in seeing if there is a tool that will let a person (Or corporation) push low voltage cable down below the sod. I have a design in mind but if there is already something out there I'd like to see it. Yeah, to buy it or maybe rip them off and make my own from how theirs look... It's a thing.. Anyhow, I normally take a shovel and make a slit in the sod and stuff the cable down in it but doing a 100+ foot run can make your day less fun than it already was. Anyone using any human powered tool (Other than a shovel or paying some kid 20 bucks to do it for you) to bury cable? Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. 740-335-7020 Logo5 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Customer ID-10-T problems
I used to work for a colo firm and we had a customer come in with sabers rattling and lawsuit threats flying that we had allowed his colocated server to be hacked He proved it by sending us the source code of the web-page served by his server... We were a bit puzzled until we viewed the rendered source on a web-browser... and we discovered that it was the this page cannot be found... web-page from IE! ryan On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 9:54 PM, Matt Larsen - Lists li...@manageisp.comwrote: So we get an angry call from a customer demanding that we come out to fix their computer, because their Internet hasn't worked for a couple of months. Check the system logs, and yes - her link has been down for 13 days. Since we have an automated system that calls every two days when a customer is down for 48hours or longer, and then we have office staff call nearly every day after that period until we get an answer. At fourteen days, she had received no less than eight phone calls, none of which had been answered. We are very proactive about customer outages. Customer also had a long history of not responding to phone calls and had twice not been at home when our tech made the 50 mile round trip to her house. There was a bit of a history there. Now that we had her on the phone, we dropped everything and sent the nearest available tech to look at the problem. She has no idea how much of an effort that is right now because we have had THREE major hailstorms and multiple tornadoes come through our area in the last two weeks and all of our service staff and contractors are booked solid for two weeks to deal with radios damaged by the storms, ripped off of roofs, or re-aimed by the strong winds. It all boiled down to two simple things, one that is very common and one that we had never come across before. 1) Her POE was plugged in backwards. 2) After plugging in the POE, she was still getting a page could not be displayed page in Internet Explorer. Tech sat down and started doing some testing to see what was going on. Pings were fine, email seemed to work fine, technician's laptop got on and was able to do everything normal on her connection. Plugged it back into her computer and got the same error. Tech puts in our home page and it comes right up. Checks browser settings and find out that she had set her HOME PAGE to the dnserror.htm file (IE - the file that comes up when DNS isn't working) - which was putting up an error everytime she started her browser. #...@#$%@#...@#$%@#! Her next bill will have a $35 service call attached to it. I'd like to deliver it wrapped around a large rock through a window, but we will probably just put it in the mail. Matt Larsen vistabeam.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] You knew it was coming...
App Store - Search ATT - download app. ryan On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.netwrote: I believe Android systems will. I'll know for sure Friday when I get the Evo 4G. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 6/2/2010 1:54 PM, Justin Wilson wrote: All of this would be not as big of a deal if ATT gave you a meter kind of like what Comcast does. I have seen the stats for my phone and I donÂıt use anywhere near 2 Gig. I have a fairly active e-mail account that checks every 30 minutes, do a fair amount of web searches, use trapster when I go on trips, facebook, etc. I donÂıt do much streaming like Pandora or videos so I am not worried. The iphone is neat in the fact that WIFI takes precedence over the Cellular net. So when I walk into my house it automatically switches to wifi for the apps. I assume the droid will do this as well. Justin WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ROS on x86 - Backup Everything (system, config, license)?
Then use 2 coconuts to produce a oh never mind! Is Ginger there? Cause if she is, I need to visit. ryan On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 7:54 AM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Because I'm in the Amazon jungle. No UPS, FedEx, USPS etc. It's like Gilligan's Island but we have satellite internet and a generator. Greg On Jun 3, 2010, at 10:26 AM, Steve Barnes wrote: Instead why not buy a $40 Hard drive. Leave the one in there with the MT ROS and if you ever have an issue pop the case, switch the cable and your ready to go. Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Greg Ihnen Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 10:46 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ROS on x86 - Backup Everything (system, config, license)? Thanks! That's what I thought - anything that would do a byte for byte copy/image of the hard drive would work. Worst case scenario is I lose the license and have to buy another. Greg On Jun 3, 2010, at 10:12 AM, Philip Dorr wrote: If downtime is a option the you can boot the system of a live Linux distro and make a DD backup of the HDD. On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 9:28 AM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: I've googled and searched and can't find an answer to this. I posted to the MT forum, but I thought I'd try here too. Thanks! I would like to know if it's possible to back up the entire RouterOS install including the license on an x86 installation. I have a computer on which I was using for RouterOS but have swapped it out for an RB750. I want to use the computer for other things (perhaps Astaro or Untangle) but I don't want to lose the RouterOS license, and I would also like to have the computer ready to go back in service with RouterOS should the RB750 fail (I lost one to lightning before adding lightning protection). Understand I am not trying to pirate RouterOS or do anything which is contrary to the terms of the license. I just want to use the machine for something else, with the possibility of reverting back to RouterOS if the RB750 which replaced it should fail. If I didn't live in the jungle of South America I'd run down to Best Buy and pick up another SATA hard drive and use that for the other OS. But I only have one drive so I'm looking at imaging the drive with RouterOS on it and keep tha t image safe so I can use the hard drive for something else. Should this work? Any advice would be appreciated. Greg - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:
Re: [WISPA] ROS on x86 - Backup Everything (system, config, license)?
YEEESSS.. lat and long please... :) ryan On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 8:27 AM, Chuck Profito cprof...@cv-access.comwrote: just where are you? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Greg Ihnen Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 8:08 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ROS on x86 - Backup Everything (system, config, license)? No Ginger, but if topless brown-skinned beauties floats your boat then you're in luck! On Jun 3, 2010, at 10:35 AM, D. Ryan Spott wrote: Then use 2 coconuts to produce a oh never mind! Is Ginger there? Cause if she is, I need to visit. ryan On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 7:54 AM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Because I'm in the Amazon jungle. No UPS, FedEx, USPS etc. It's like Gilligan's Island but we have satellite internet and a generator. Greg On Jun 3, 2010, at 10:26 AM, Steve Barnes wrote: Instead why not buy a $40 Hard drive. Leave the one in there with the MT ROS and if you ever have an issue pop the case, switch the cable and your ready to go. Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Greg Ihnen Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 10:46 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ROS on x86 - Backup Everything (system, config, license)? Thanks! That's what I thought - anything that would do a byte for byte copy/image of the hard drive would work. Worst case scenario is I lose the license and have to buy another. Greg On Jun 3, 2010, at 10:12 AM, Philip Dorr wrote: If downtime is a option the you can boot the system of a live Linux distro and make a DD backup of the HDD. On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 9:28 AM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: I've googled and searched and can't find an answer to this. I posted to the MT forum, but I thought I'd try here too. Thanks! I would like to know if it's possible to back up the entire RouterOS install including the license on an x86 installation. I have a computer on which I was using for RouterOS but have swapped it out for an RB750. I want to use the computer for other things (perhaps Astaro or Untangle) but I don't want to lose the RouterOS license, and I would also like to have the computer ready to go back in service with RouterOS should the RB750 fail (I lost one to lightning before adding lightning protection). Understand I am not trying to pirate RouterOS or do anything which is contrary to the terms of the license. I just want to use the machine for something else, with the possibility of reverting back to RouterOS if the RB750 which replaced it should fail. If I didn't live in the jungle of South America I'd run down to Best Buy and pick up another SATA hard drive and use that for the other OS. But I only have one drive so I'm looking at imaging the drive with RouterOS on it and keep tha t image safe so I can use the hard drive for something else. Should this work? Any advice would be appreciated. Greg - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] Availability Monitoring
I do this for my network and my competitors. :) Nice to compare apples to rotten apples. ryan On Jun 3, 2010, at 3:10 PM, Nick Huanca n...@greataukwireless.com wrote: Hi all, I wanted to see if anyone has any ideas on Availability Monitoring of core devices and APs. Is anyone out there performing availability reports using Nagios or anything similar? For example, if something is down for 1 hour, depending on it's placement in the network, it would bring the availability of that section of the network down to around 99.990% for the year (99.990% = 52.6 minutes per year). The issue is that Nagios dilutes the results of overall network availability by including all the 100% figures that were not included in the outage. Is anyone organizing their reports in a different fashion that more accurately portray availability of a network? I understand this is quite a loaded question not knowing the topology or any of the configurations of our Nagios implementation. Thanks in advance! -- Nick Huanca --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Google Pac Man Survey Results
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/25/google-pacman-doodle-devo_n_588605.html 4.8 MILLION hours of time! :) ryan On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 8:43 AM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.comwrote: Isn't that funny. Galaga is my favorite too! My wife loves Pacman. So near as I can tell men love Galaga. Girls and environmentalists love Pacman. grin marlon - Original Message - From: Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 12:51 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google Pac Man Survey Results So I took a survey and 39 of you responded with your answers. The first choice was Galaga and the Second Centepede. I appreciate your help, we will be integrating them into the Regional Meeting happening July 21/22. Thanks for your help in guiding our decisions. 1st ChoiceGame2nd Choice 2 Pacman 3 11Galaga 1 2 Gorf0 2 Donkey Kong 1 2 Centepede5 1 Asteroids 3 2 Asteroids Deluxe 0 1 Dig Dug1 0 Space Invaders 1 0 Lunar Lander0 2 Missle Command 2 1 Zork 0 2 Ms. Pacman 0 3 Frogger2 2 Donkey Kong 2 1 19423 1 Defender 1 2 Zaxxon 0 1 Tron 1 Other notes: Zork was never a stand up game (oops), Galaxian (pre Galaga), Tempest (I remember that one, the flapping wings right?) Anyway, thanks for your help and filling out the survey, made for an interesting Friday. Forbes WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Good reliable b/g/n inside AP
What is a Ruckus box running now-a-days? ryan On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Jeff Ehman jeh...@cticonnect.com wrote: Ruckus Wireless. Hands down. Their smart antenna array, price point and simple configuration/maintenance are unmatched. Plus, this pertains to larger projects but if their controller goes down all the APs still broadcast! The only functionality that goes away is support/maintenance but at least everyone can still get on the internet. -Jeff Convergence Technologies There is a difference -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 10:46 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Good reliable b/g/n inside AP So many different things out on the market right now. What would you guys recommend for a reliable AP for use inside a conference room for a business requiring rock solid access? B/G would be OK, but would prefer to go ahead and have N as well. Thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Google Pac Man
I used to spend 12-15 hours a day playing this. I think I wore out several Atari 2600 joysticks. I am not a gamer as my fast twitch muscles were not fast enough for games faster than Pacman. My wife was not aware of this past history and foolishly challenged me to a Mrs Pacman table-top game at a bar one night. She played her turn... and then I played mine for ~2.5 hours. I had a crowd around me. Her jaw was on the floor, she just muttered what she thinks is an insult: I married such a nerd. :) ryan On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 8:24 AM, Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com wrote: But dd... Robert West wrote: Stop playing Google Pac Man and get back to work! Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. 740-335-7020 Logo5 -- WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Network Design - Technical Training - Technical Writing Serving the Broadband Wireless, Networking and Telecom Communities since 1993www.ask-wi.com 818-227-4220 jun...@ask-wi.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Google Pac Man
Go get some nerdy glasses and see if your wife likes role playing, lol, happy Friday! GREAT! *Insomnia City* Now every time I close my eyes I will have Forbes in nerd glasses 'role playing' :P happy dreams everyone! ryan On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 9:05 AM, Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.comwrote: According to Maxim, which us single guys still get to read :) women like nerds more, good women anyway. Its no insult at all, I spent the same amount of time on those games in my youth and Matt's Galaga is my fav, maybe we can have the St. Louis WISP dig one up for the hotel at our upcoming Regional Meeting. Oddly once I owned an ISP I didn't seem to want to play games anymore, the sad off-shoot of being on the computer too much but have no fear the closet gamer is in all of us or it's doubtful we'd love this business so much. Go get some nerdy glasses and see if your wife likes role playing, lol, happy Friday! Forbes On 5/21/2010 8:58 AM, Robert West wrote: That's a moment that any man can be proud of. LOL! Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of D. Ryan Spott Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 11:39 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google Pac Man I used to spend 12-15 hours a day playing this. I think I wore out several Atari 2600 joysticks. I am not a gamer as my fast twitch muscles were not fast enough for games faster than Pacman. My wife was not aware of this past history and foolishly challenged me to a Mrs Pacman table-top game at a bar one night. She played her turn... and then I played mine for ~2.5 hours. I had a crowd around me. Her jaw was on the floor, she just muttered what she thinks is an insult: I married such a nerd. :) ryan On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 8:24 AM, Jack Ungerjun...@ask-wi.com wrote: But dd... Robert West wrote: Stop playing Google Pac Man and get back to work! Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. 740-335-7020 Logo5 -- WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Network Design - Technical Training - Technical Writing Serving the Broadband Wireless, Networking and Telecom Communities since 1993www.ask-wi.com 818-227-4220 jun...@ask-wi.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth
What do your trends show you? Take your yearly graph and draw a line along the averages. Extend this line what does it do? ryan On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 6:54 AM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: When you peak at 65-75 percent its probably time to add more. It depends on how fast your filling it up and how long it takes to implement the new capacity. -RickG On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 9:09 AM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: At what percentage of your backbone usage do you look at adding more capacity. At peak times I run at 65-70 percent of capacity. Just looking for suggestions. Sent from my iPhone WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Times Microwave tools for LMR 400...
I am looking for the following: EZ-400-NMH-D Connector CCT-01 Tool (cutter) ST-400EZ tool (cable Prep tool) DBT-U (deburr tool) HX4 Tool (crimp tool) Separately or in a kit... Does anyone have a favorite Vendor? I saw one vendor selling a kit for LMR400/600 with all of the above parts. They wanted over $1000 for it! The 'EZ-Crimp connectors look like the way to go, but other advice is appreciated. ryan WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Hamvention
It wasn't a she... and it was all night baby :) ryan On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 9:38 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: What? Then who was it I spent the day with???!!! She said her name was Rickesha. - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 7:08 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hamvention I'm sorry Bob! I was slacking all night on a water tank after it took a direct hit. Picture of omni attached. Even with LP in place, it melted the cabling down to the enclosure and burned up everything in it! I got it back up running by dropping temporary cables down the side of the tower. A dozen man hours later - it's all new. Maybe next year! On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 11:55 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: Rick, was good to hang with you today. Very cool. I never imagined you as a short black woman... But it's all good. Go figure, Rick being short for Rickesha. Anyhow, good meetin' ya. Bob- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests
Take a look at http://www.brandonchecketts.com/open-source-speedtest I modified mine to save speedtests that my clients run so I can review them at a later date. This helps me spot trends. I let my customers see the last 5 or so speedtests. Some advice: 1. Make sure you save ALL of the speedtests your clients run. Then you can look at the history of speedtests when the customer emails you to whine about slow speeds and sends you a screenshot of the speedtest... the one they cherry picked to show slow speeds... This generally happens around billing time. 2. Make sure that it is only available on your network. I had to put mine behind a php ACL to prevent dialup users from telling me that my wireless was no faster than their dialup according to my speedtest that they ran from their dialup connection!! *head-desk*. 3. (this makes #2 even more important.. I cannot tell you how many customers would call complaining about 'slow speeds'... and after investigating I found they were using an AOL proxy or a proxy running some filtering software... or performing the speedtest through their corp VPN connection! ryan On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 2:16 PM, Carl Shivers cshiv...@aristotle.netwrote: From time to time I get customer complaints when they use various offsite speed tests. Does anyone know of good speed test software that I can set up on my network? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software
$1 For everything or just half the features? ryan On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: Something like $1/active account. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 âSuccess is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.â --- Winston Churchill On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Sara Gray li...@jcwifi.com wrote: How much does powercode cost? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 1:39 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software I use Powercode. - Original Message - From: Sara Gray li...@jcwifi.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 11:35 AM Subject: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software I'm looking for software to tract customer calls, trouble tickets, appointments, and customer information. Can anyone suggest a good software that can do this. Id like to have web access. I've looked at a few but have never heard of most of them so I'm looking for suggestions of what others have used and like. Thanks for any input. Sara WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software
Yeah, I was gonna say. I looked at, and even entered my subs into powercode at one point last summer... happily thinking this system is gonna rock! and then I found out that I only get 1/2 of the features that were advertised. :( I ended up not going with them. ryan On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Mark Nash - Lists markl...@uwol.netwrote: I personally think it's more like $1.35/sub or $1.65/sub for everything. Our normal bill is about $1200/mo I think for 850 subs. - Original Message - From: D. Ryan Spott rsp...@irongoat.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 12:52 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software $1 For everything or just half the features? ryan On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: Something like $1/active account. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 âSuccess is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.â --- Winston Churchill On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Sara Gray li...@jcwifi.com wrote: How much does powercode cost? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 1:39 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software I use Powercode. - Original Message - From: Sara Gray li...@jcwifi.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 11:35 AM Subject: [WISPA] Call Tracking / Customer management software I'm looking for software to tract customer calls, trouble tickets, appointments, and customer information. Can anyone suggest a good software that can do this. Id like to have web access. I've looked at a few but have never heard of most of them so I'm looking for suggestions of what others have used and like. Thanks for any input. Sara WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Cap Implementation
Hey Matt, Can you give us your customers' reaction to this change after a few weeks? ryan On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 11:11 PM, Matt Larsen - Lists li...@manageisp.comwrote: Since there has been a lot of discussion about bandwidth caps on this list recently, I thought that I would share the one that we recently implemented, along with some details on how we are enforcing it and how we established the caps. Going back to day 1, we have had a 3gig cap on broadband customers with a $25/gig surcharge for anyone exceeding that amount. When we were using all StarOS V2, the radius accounting information was keeping fairly close track of the bandwidth per customer. Fast forward six years, and that cap was so low as to be a joke -- and we had not been enforcing it. It was also very difficult to collect accurate accounting data - StarOS evolved and the radius accounting became useless in version 3, so some access points were tracking it and others were not. We also have a few Tranzeo and Mikrotik access points in the system and no good way to collect the individual subscriber download information from them either. After looking at several different options for collecting the bandwidth traffic information, we decided to use open source tools to develop our own solution. We installed a switch between our core and edge routers -- behind the NAT so that it could see all customer's IP addresses -- and mirrored a port to our new collection server. The collection server is a Linux box running CentOS 5.2. The linux box is using softflowd-0.98 to collect the netflows, and flow-tools-v-0.68.5 to look at the data. Daily reports are mailed out to our techs list to show the customer who are nearing or over their caps. A customer page was created that shows the customers how much bandwidth they have used, how much they have left before charges and what their overage charges are (if any). The customer page also shows their historical usage trend for the last 12 months -- starting with April 2010 when we started collecting the information. Starting on June 1, we will bill overages as a separate charge to the customers on the 1^st of the month, regardless of their billing anniversary. The process of implementing this was quite interesting. Out of 2000+ customers, 80 used more than 10 gigs for the month. One customer - a 1 meg subscriber at the far eastern edge of our network, behind seven wireless hops and on an 802.11b AP -- downloaded 140gig. Another one, on the far western side of our network, downloaded 110gig. We called them and found out that they were watching a ton of online video. We discovered a county government connection that was around 100gig -- mostly because someone in the sheriff's department was pounding for BitTorrent files from 1am to 7am in the morning, and sometimes crashing their firewall machine because of the traffic. We also discovered that there was 80-100meg of stateless udp type traffic traversing our routed network and getting to our core router. Revised firewall rules on the APs fixed this problem. The majority of the rest of the subs on the list were either online video watchers, people with virus problems or who had left filesharing programs running on their computers. After reviewing the usage records, we decided on the following cap sizes for our plans: Package Monthly Download Cap 384k 10 gigabytes 640k 10 gigabytes 1 meg 20 gigabytes 2 meg 40 gigabytes 3 meg 50 gigabytes 4 meg 60 gigabytes 8 meg 80 gigabytes Additional capacity over cap $1 per gigabyte over the cap I feel that these caps are more than generous, and should have a minimal effect on the majority of our customers. With our backbone consumption per customer increasing, implementing caps of some kind became a necessity. I am not looking at the caps as a new profit center -- they are a deterrent as much as anything. It will provide an incentive for customers to upgrade to a faster plan with a higher cap, or take their download habits to a competitor and chew up someone else's bandwidth. This has been an educational experience, and probably one that we should have gone through a couple of years ago. I would like to thank the people on the WISPA and Butch Evans' Mikrotik lists for their input while we were developing this system. Matt Larsen Vistabeam.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo - Again.....
Tranzeo APs (not the EL models) are great for small 15 sub sites. After that, they tank. ryan On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 8:40 AM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.comwrote: I have yet to find a Tranzeo AP that works. Pull it out and put nearly anything else in it's place. I use MT for ap's and have not looked back. How many Tranzeo ap's would you like? I've got stacks of them on the shelf (I use them for REALLY small repeater sites). marlon - Original Message - From: Kosinet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 1:49 PM Subject: [WISPA] Tranzeo - Again. Hey all, I've got what appears to me to be a dumb question, but I'm all out of good answers right now. We've got mostly all Alvarion stuff on our WISP Network - All bridged, including the backhauls. The entire network is addressed @ 10.0.100.x for management / monitoring purposes, and has been running fine. (Our Public IP address space is 98.100.x.x) We recently added a Tranzeo AP, and (1) client at a new POP - Addressed them into our 10.0.100.x Network and set the client up. Signal is great, but we've had nothing but problems at this location. It will run for a short while, then drop off, then come back, etc. (And on, and on..) While testing we discovered we can ping the 10.0.100.x address, and / or stay logged onto the radio consistently, but the Router on the Public IP drops off. We've swapped Radios / Routers / Switches / Etc. - The only constant is the Tranzeo link. (The Client at the POP that we're broadcasting from work flawlessly - It's a Ubiquity Bridge Link.) There's the scenario, here's the question. Is there a problem with me addressing the Tranzeo Radios in the 10.0.100.x? Arp Table problems? -Gary- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo - Again.....
I think you are going to see more discussion on the http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/tranzeo_wimax_users with the recent purchase of Aperto they might be THE way to get into wimax for a reasonable price. ryan On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote: Tranzeo needs to step up their game, I mean, look how many manufacturers have Mimo-N radio's out now. Look how long it took Tranzeo to add 802.11G to the CPQ line. Then 10mhz channels on top of that. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 11:40 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo - Again. I have yet to find a Tranzeo AP that works. Pull it out and put nearly anything else in it's place. I use MT for ap's and have not looked back. How many Tranzeo ap's would you like? I've got stacks of them on the shelf (I use them for REALLY small repeater sites). marlon - Original Message - From: Kosinet Wireless wirel...@kosinet.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 1:49 PM Subject: [WISPA] Tranzeo - Again. Hey all, I've got what appears to me to be a dumb question, but I'm all out of good answers right now. We've got mostly all Alvarion stuff on our WISP Network - All bridged, including the backhauls. The entire network is addressed @ 10.0.100.x for management / monitoring purposes, and has been running fine. (Our Public IP address space is 98.100.x.x) We recently added a Tranzeo AP, and (1) client at a new POP - Addressed them into our 10.0.100.x Network and set the client up. Signal is great, but we've had nothing but problems at this location. It will run for a short while, then drop off, then come back, etc. (And on, and on..) While testing we discovered we can ping the 10.0.100.x address, and / or stay logged onto the radio consistently, but the Router on the Public IP drops off. We've swapped Radios / Routers / Switches / Etc. - The only constant is the Tranzeo link. (The Client at the POP that we're broadcasting from work flawlessly - It's a Ubiquity Bridge Link.) There's the scenario, here's the question. Is there a problem with me addressing the Tranzeo Radios in the 10.0.100.x? Arp Table problems? -Gary- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rocket M5
Is that a 'ptp' link or a 'ptmp' link? The sector hints at this being the latter. Also, what sort of pps are you seeing on this link? ryan On Apr 26, 2010, at 1:13 PM, Michael Baird m...@tc3net.com wrote: Oops, actually that's wrong. I've got a rocket m5/rocketdish 30 on one side, and a rocket m5/rocket 120/19 db sector on the other. Regards Michael Baird I've got a 10 mile link with two Ubiquiti 2ft dishes -60 or so on both sides, I can get 77 megs one way and 58 the other, one side has some noise issues hurting throughput. This was mcs15 130/117. Regards Michael Baird What kind of realistic throughput are people getting out of these? 10, 20 and 40meg channels? Where I want to try one I doubt I can spare 40meg of 5.8. Was thinking of a 3 foot dual polarity dish and big backhaul. Matt --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WISPA TV Whitespaces Meeting with the FCC
L-R Ryan, John, Alex, Jack and Stephen. ryan On Apr 5, 2010, at 5:41 AM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote: This is a great report good job guys and thank you. Next question. I don't know any of the team personally just from your posts. The picture in the report, can you give us a who's who left to right. Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jack Unger Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 7:17 PM To: memb...@wispa.org; WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] WISPA TV Whitespaces Meeting with the FCC Last Wednesday, March 31, the WISPA FCC Committee assisted by the WISPA Promotions Committee met with top managers of the FCC Office of Engineering and Technology (OET) at FCC Headquarters in Washington D.C. to discuss the status of WISPA's TV Whitespaces filings. The following Members represented WISPA. Ryan Spott, Alex Phillips, John Scriver, and Jack Unger. The WISPA Team was assisted by Steve Coran of Rini/Coran LLC in Washington. All Team Members made valuable contributions to the effort and we all feel that the meeting went well. Our goal was to ask the FCC take favorable action soon on WISPA's Petitions to adjust the TV Whitespace rules by making corrections to several problem areas, thereby making WISP use of the Whitespaces more practical and more successful. I'm attaching a more detailed report (.doc file) and also the official written filing (PDF) that WISPA is required to make after every meeting with the FCC. A copy of our FCC PowerPoint presentation is also required to be part of our written filing. To easily view our presentation, please rotate the attached PDF clockwise 90 degrees in your Adobe Reader viewer. Your questions and constructive suggestions are always welcome. Respectfully Submitted, Jack Unger WISPA FCC Committee Chair 818-227-4220 -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Network Design - Technical Training - Technical Writing Serving the Broadband Wireless, Networking and Telecom Communities since 1993 www.ask-wi.com 818-227-4220 jun...@ask-wi.com --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Sector Tilt angle
really good TV reception It tells them something so they get less interested and leave you alone. ryan On Mar 29, 2010, at 8:25 PM, Mike Mattox wi...@mcmsys.com wrote: SSSH, aliens Signal is great where we can see it, just needed a good fix for not having to do the 2 man show all over the county. (With everyone in a pickup truck stopping to ask why we're by the road with an antenna) --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Building Heights?
12 feet per floor is how we do it in the fire service. 10 feet per floor for residential. But RF is diffrent than fire behaivior... Well I guess both can burn you. ;) ryan On Mar 30, 2010, at 10:38 AM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: Clyde M. taught me a cool trick. Use a ruler, move back from a door till the door fills a 1/4 (or similar) mark. Then count the marks to the top of the building. Multiply that by 7' for the average door height and you'll know how tall the building is. Very slick trick. marlon - Original Message - From: jp j...@saucer.midcoast.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 11:49 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Building Heights? Tax assessing data 45 degree square and a tape measure on flat ground. 45 degree square, laser rangefinder, scientific calculator. On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 02:07:36PM -0400, Charles Hooper wrote: Hello, Does anyone know a reliable source/method of getting building heights? Something like a topographical map that included buildings would be excellent, but I haven't been able to find anything like this. Thanks! Charles --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- /* Jason Philbrook | Midcoast Internet Solutions - Wireless and DSL KB1IOJ| Broadband Internet Access, Dialup, and Hosting http://f64.nu/ | for Midcoast Mainehttp://www.midcoast.com/ */ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.4 legal ptp radios
The TR5a does have DFS. I think Damian Wallace's rant goes like this: We give the radio to a testing lab, and they do FCC testing. Then they tell us to listen for some sort of signal... and they give us like eleventy-billion signatures to listen for. Then they take our radio to a secret room and they make sure that they shut down when the signatures are presented. It is a pain in the backside... Older models of insert brand here that were created before DFS was required, did not have DFS. I have some older radios from insert up to 3 vendors here that do not have DFS.. However, newer models do, and some manufacturers turn DFS on with a firmware update. ryan On Mar 11, 2010, at 10:06 AM, Nathan Stooke wrote: Hello, As far as I know the Tranzeo TR-5A is not approved in the US. While the radio can do it physically it does not have DFS and has not been approved for use in the US. I hope I am wrong. Any have the FCC doc to show it is OK to use in the US? I have not searched the FCC site for them. Thanks -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 10:14 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] 5.4 legal ptp radios I'm trying to compile a list of options for FCC certified 5.4 ptp radios for short backhaul links. Off the top of my head, I can remember: Tranzeo TR-5A Trango TrangoLINK-45 Radwin 2000 (has mimo as well) Motorola PTP 100, 200, 300, 500, 600 Any others I'm not aware of? Sure would be nice to see more mimo/N radios certified in 5.4. Anyone working through the approval process (ligowave?). -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc 435-674-0165 x 2010 http://www.infowest.com/ Letting off steam always produces more heat than light. - Neal A. Maxwell WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] iPhone ssh app
I use touchterm. It does the needfull. :) ryan On Mar 11, 2010, at 1:54 PM, Data Technology w...@dtisp.com wrote: I know in the last couple of weeks there was a discussion about an ssh app for the iPhone. I did not save the emails because I thought I would never need something like because I don't have an iPhone. But, I bought an iPhone last night and now I am looking for an ssh app. I have found iSSH and the reviews are good about it. I know that $7.99 for an app is a lot of money but if this is the one to have then I don't mind spending the money. This also appears to have a vnc client as well. Any input as far as SSH utilities or any other iPhone apps for WISP operations would be appreciated. LaRoy McCann Data Technology --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] iPhone ssh app
Ima gonna tell stevie jobs on you! :) ryan On Mar 11, 2010, at 1:57 PM, Sales sa...@michianawireless.com wrote: Hmm I just goto my iPhones command line via shell and type ssh ipaddress works like a charm. John Buwa Michiana Wireless,Inc 574-233-7170 Sent from my iPhone On Mar 11, 2010, at 4:54 PM, Data Technology w...@dtisp.com wrote: I know in the last couple of weeks there was a discussion about an ssh app for the iPhone. I did not save the emails because I thought I would never need something like because I don't have an iPhone. But, I bought an iPhone last night and now I am looking for an ssh app. I have found iSSH and the reviews are good about it. I know that $7.99 for an app is a lot of money but if this is the one to have then I don't mind spending the money. This also appears to have a vnc client as well. Any input as far as SSH utilities or any other iPhone apps for WISP operations would be appreciated. LaRoy McCann Data Technology --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Moisture Abatement Techniques
The rule is to never stretch the last 2 winds of the tape as you put it on... and ALWAYS *CUT* the tape, never rip it. Ripping implies stretching till failure. I can always tell who rips and who cuts on towers by the number of vinyl flags flapping when I climb by other antennas on the tower. ryan On Mar 2, 2010, at 4:54 AM, Mike wrote: The trick to that is to NOT stretch the last couple wraps on the 33 or 88. Of course all bets are off if it's really cold. I keep a roll in my pants pocket for cold weather wraps. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Greg Ihnen Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 6:36 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Moisture Abatement Techniques Does't the glue on the Super-33 start to fail with time and you end up with the end of the tape coming loose and flapping in the wind? That's why I like to finish with the rubber tape. Greg On Mar 2, 2010, at 12:22 AM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: YES!!! This is how I seal connections, has never failed yet! 1. Tape a layer of Super-33 from the bottom up. Just one layer. 2. Put on a layer of the rubber tape from the bottom up. Just one layer. 3. Tape another layer up with the Super-33 again. From the bottom up as well. Just one layer. This system has worked great for 5 years and all my connections have always been bone dry when taken apart with a utility knife. One thing I can tell you is it better be bone dry when you put this together cause if its not then you just trapped the water in cause nothing is getting in or out. I get the rubber tape at True Value hardware stores. Its less then $4 and does not leave a sticky mess when removed. It has a blue layer between itself on the role so the rubber does not stick together. Its always in the same area as the electrical tape and electrical supplies. I guess its used widely by electricians. I showed a Two Way Radio technician that has 30+ years experience in RF my method and he was very impressed. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Greg Ihnen Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 7:01 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Moisture Abatement Techniques Does anyone like the pure rubber self vulcanizing tape over the vinyl tape? I like how that doesn't come loose over time. Greg On Mar 1, 2010, at 1:29 PM, Jerry Richardson wrote: NS2's and other outdoor radios can take care of themselves. I add a little seal around the cable exit on the bottom of the cover. The bullets make me a little nervous - I don't trust the grommet that comes with them - a little sealer on the back at the cable exit is a good idea. This is how I was taught for RF connectors 3 layer process: Layer 1 - 3M Super33 or Super88 electrical tape over the entire connection extending 2 past the shrink wrap at both ends Layer 2 - 3M Mastic 2229 over the electrical tape - squeeze repeatedly to conform all of the seams to one contiguous seal Layer 3 - 3M Super33 or Super88 over the Mastic - this is to keep the mastic in place and for UV protection http://picasaweb.google.com/aircloud.com/AntennaCoaxSeal# -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Israel Lopez-LISTS Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 9:46 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Moisture Abatement Techniques Hey All, So how do you guys avoid getting water/moisture in your gear? I'm going to be standing up a 9 end-point network, with some Ubiquiti (Bullet2, Nanostation) gear, Directional H-Pol Omni antennas, Polyphasers, Ethernet Lightning Arrestors, etc,. I'm not going to be able to travel to the site again in at least a year; its a rainy part of the world, so I'd like to prevent any damage to the gear as much as possible. Anything I should do to prevent moisture from getting into the gear? Or other protective measures... Teflon on the coax connectors, Electrical Tape on the Edges of the gear? If there was a place I could see some pictures of the implementations that would be good too. -Israel WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] bit torrents
I allow it at 4kbps... For the entire network. muhahahahahahah *cough* But seriously. I have a play nice policy. If someone is affecting other users, we call them and ask them to slow down thier up/downloads so they don't piss off thier neighbors. My wife called one of our customers to ask that they stop bittorenting so much. The dad said that no-one was torrenting in the house... Further investigation showed it was the 13year old son downloading movies etc. He was grounded for the rest of his life... Turns out dad was the group program manager for Microsoft's DRM group! (whoops! We sure felt bad) ryan On Feb 13, 2010, at 9:54 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Even though our AUP TOS does not allow it, I have a customer demanding to run bit torrents. I want to be fair in all matters. Am I being over zealous on not allowing torrents? Who here allows or disallows them? -RickG --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Packet flux shunt
Backwoodssolar.com Look under meters. ryan On Feb 8, 2010, at 12:42 PM, Scott Piehn li...@jcwifi.com wrote: I am looking for a shunt to monitor a wind turbine. that would work with the packet flux product Turbine is 400w at 12 V so I think I should get a 50Amp one. to 100 Millivolt Can anyone recommend where to buy it - Scott Piehn --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Insurance
Certificate of insurance. ryan On Feb 3, 2010, at 7:38 PM, Robert West wrote: I think the technical insurance term for that is coveringyourass. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 9:46 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance You can have your subcontractors put you on the list of people to update with any insurance changes. This will tell you if their insurance is halted because of payment, or whatever. Can't remember what the word is. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. --- Winston Churchill On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 9:38 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: Depends on if you are using sub contractors, in house or doing it all just by yourself. We use a few subs but require that they have insurance of their own and have to see actually proof AND call the agent to verify. (Don't ever take a subs word for insurance coverage because 99.9% of the time, LIE!) I actually had to pay for a minor fender bender caused by a sub contractor who had no insurance even on his truck Doesn't matter about any signed agreement, the small claims judge still treated it as an employee/ employer relationship. So make sure it will cover any sub contractor messes. We use a local guy, no big insurance company. He handles it all for us through his agency. Our number one thing was the coverage limit. 1 million bucks is cheap enough but if you step back, 1 million bucks pays how much of some apartment building and contents that burned down because one of your guys drilled a hole through a gas line or electrical line and was either too stupid to notice or too scared to tell anyone? Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeremie Chism Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 9:27 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Insurance Outside of general liability insurance what insurance are some of you using. Also any recommendations on companies? Sent from my iPhone WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] EBS Licensing
Or the cash equivlent? I can't wait to see what happens in...oh...6 years or so when these school boards renegotiate the 10 year subleases of this spectrum. Could be an interesting and lucrative time for those districts that are getting peanuts for rent of thier spectrum. ryan On Jan 21, 2010, at 2:17 PM, Brian Webster bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com wrote: For digital couldn't they just figure out the capacity of the system, provide 5% of that to any and all educational institutions by giving them guaranteed capacity that adds up to the 5%? Thank You, Brian Webster -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on Behalf Of Eric Muehleisen Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 5:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] EBS Licensing I need some information as to how Clear (Clearwire) is fulfilling their subleasing requirements in the EBS band. The rules state the following: 1. There must be a minimum of 20 hours per 6 MHz channel per week of educational use of EBS spectrum. 2. For analog facilities, EBS licensees must retain a right to recapture an additional amount of 20 more hours per channel per week capacity for educational purposes. 3. For digital facilities, the EBS licensee must reserve at least 5% of its transmission capacity for educational purposes. Can anyone tell me how Clear is fulfilling these rules? -Eric --- --- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt
I leave the head on invade I need to have a light. Best part is I always have a battery for my drill if I run out of juice while driving lags!! ryan On Jan 9, 2010, at 4:24 AM, Eric Rogers ecrog...@precisionds.com wrote: We did something similar with the pivot Dewalt flashlight. Since we use the 18v drills, it worked perfectly. Took the flashlight part off, and left the handle with the switch. Connected a cat5 keystone jack...whittled out the hole where the flashlight head used to be. Now we have a handle with a keystone sticking out the top. If we want to power a Motorola, we use a straight through cable. If we power Mikrotik, we use a short 2 jumper with a keystone at one end (reverse the power blue/brown pairs) so it is a Male Female extension. I don't have pictures, but with Moto, just power the unit with headphones for a site-survey...Takes like 10 minutes if that. Not lugging computers around. AMAZING!!! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Spott Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 6:04 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt http://tranzeofaq.com/images/site_survey/images/ ryan On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Eje Gustafsson e...@wisp-router.com wrote: Look it got my Name on it even... =) Love it... -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 4:34 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt Look at the picture better. It says patent pending. Zoomed in: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/60247/IMG00079-20100108-1502-zoom.jpg Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 5:25 PM, Eje Gustafsson e...@wisp- router.com wrote: Ryobi one plus have a battery tester that would be simple to modify for this very thing. I think they are less than $15 at HD. It's a cool idea now why didn't I think of that I love my Ryobi One + tools ;) I better run and file the patent before Josh does for this cool new Ryobi One+ accessory as well preventing Milwakiu and Dewalt users from making a similar for their batteries ;) / Eje -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 3:10 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt Josh, Really cool. What a great idea to get a radio aligned and tested, BEFORE the indoor CAT5 is finished. How did you make the connector that the Battery fit into? Or did you sabatage an old charger/drill? Truthfully though for reoccuring maintenance, I'd rather use the Power supply that is already in the customers home, with a passive temp junction box the majority of the time. Then I dont have to guess, check, or keep track whether the MT SBC that is inside the enclosure is configured for 20v, 24V, or 48V. Its qwicker to just plug in, then to verify config and then plug-in. Sure if someone is back in the office, its a quick call to find out, but taht is not always the case. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Mikropoynt Tom, Problem solved: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/60247/IMG00079-20100108-1502.jpg http://dl.dropbox.com/u/60247/IMG00081-20100108-1503.jpg That's a 24v power supply. Works with Trango/Canopy ptmp stuff (RP) and Mikrotik/Nanostations (the other way on the switch) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.netwrote: What we'd really like to see if a 411 style board with a second Ethernet port. There is good reason for that. 1) 433 boards dont fit in most Rootenna style or very low cost cases 2) There is a big cost different between 433Ah and basic 411, if serving residential. 3) The second Etherenet port is needed for Maintenance. a) When residential home owner is not home, to access the CPE. Provider's tech works days, Customer home at night :-(. Its so much quicker to plug in tech laptop plug directly to second ethernet port, than to run extention cords, new AC power source, and no need to risk damaging a working POE Ethernet port 1 all sealed up and functioning. b) When initial install and alignment is done, it can be done easilly with Laptop
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth limitation enforcement
Uh.. Dell GX150 i think? It has a celeron slow as heck processor. I found it near a dumpster at some point. The license cost me $45. Originally I used it to find the bandwidth hogs, now I control them with it. Wonderful stuff I tell you! ryan On Dec 30, 2009, at 2:40 PM, Ugo Bellavance wrote: On 2009-12-30 16:38, Ryan Spott wrote: http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/TransparentTrafficShaper will get you started for pennies. Then you can grow from there. Thanks, Our firewall is a Pfsense and I think it can do something similar... What is the hardware required for the above setup? Regards, WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Wimax gear
Hi RALPH! ryan On Dec 30, 2009, at 5:14 PM, Ralph wrote: Go ahead and live the dream then, but please don't homebuild your own gear and deploy it in any of my markets. We prefer certified products. On Dec 30, 2009, at 8:10 PM, e...@wisp-router.com wrote: You can use MikroTik and be legal. Anyone say any different either don't understand the rules or checked the approved certs or is just spreading FUD. /Eje Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Ralph ralphli...@bsrg.org Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 20:05:50 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Cc: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wimax gear We have successfuly used ubiquiti nano and power stations as injection radios for numerous tripod and cisco mesh systems. No problems. Of course I have used canopy for it too- no real difference in the end performance. Would not use Mikrotik for any RF due to our desire to stay legal. On Dec 30, 2009, at 7:05 PM, Charles Wu c...@cticonnect.com wrote: I find these comparisons of products like Ubiquiti / Mikrotik vs. Motorola / WiMAX products to be somewhat unrealistic -- it seems to me that it's like comparing something that's hypothetical and looks good on paper and hoping that it will actually work Here's my question; sure, on paper, the new Ubiquiti WHATEVER will give me a Gazillion Mbps with Beamforming and everything for $10 -- but has anyone actually made this stuff work and scaled it into a profitable business? Many of the WISPs that I've talked to who gone down this path have had to upgrade / replace / retool their networks due to the fact that these systems don't scale The one WISP that I know using Ubiquiti / Mikrotik with several thousand customers is only using them as endpoints on a Bel-Air Network Mesh infrastructure that they spent almost $1 million building out It reminds me of the Asterisk vs. Broadsoft / Metaswitch VoIP debates from a couple of years back -- sure, Asterisk was free while a Broadsoft platform had an entry cost of $250k, but I know of tons of Broadsoft providers who support tens of thousands of customers for hosted PBX, and the only guy I know doing it on Asterisk ended up spending over $500k hiring a custom programming team in Russia to rebuild the system for him from scratch (he was joking to me that in hindsight, it would've been cheaper and a lot easier to just buy a Broadsoft) I would like to be proven wrong here...so shoot =) -Charles --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Being Rude to Customers
Alcoholism is the leading cause of rude customers. Quite a few customers on our network have a do not call after 8:3, 9:30, 10:20AM note because they are totally out of it. Perfectly polite people before that time.. but after... WOW! ryan On Dec 22, 2009, at 12:27 PM, Robert West wrote: That's funny because I ended up having a conversation pretty much like that with the wife. Get a notebook and a pencil, write it down. I took it upon myself, after call number 5, to try to login to FaceBook with his username and password, password was wrong, reset it, retrieved his email, changed his password... yada, yada, yada... (I hate yada, yada, yada, by the way) Wife tells me that she thinks he changed it last night when he was drunk so that she couldn't get on his account. But after all of that I hear... See, I told you it was their fault because he fixed it. *sigh* I have to add that they are in their late 60's. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scottie Arnett Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 3:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Being Rude to Customers Send him a gift wrapped notebook and pencil with Merry Chrismyassmas written on it from just-micro.com. Include a note saying, With this, you should never have a problem with remembering your passwords, if you just use it. Scottie -- Original Message -- From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 11:33:43 -0500 Is it okay to say Merry Chrismyassmas to a customer who calls you yelling because it's your fault he can't remember his Facebook password? (Somehow I'm blocking his FaceBook password) Just wondering what my options are Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. 740-335-7020 --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] Wireless High Speed Broadband service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $30.00/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com/wireless.html for information. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Being Rude to Customers
HA! I have one better.. I get a VERY timid call from a non-customer in my small town Her: hi, can you help me? Promise you won't laugh? Me: sure, what do you need? Her: Can you come by and fix my keyboard on my laptop? It got very wet and won't work now... Me: Did you spill something on it? Her: Promise not to laugh I have narcolepsy and I passed out on the keyboard and filled it with drool... Me: I promised, but my tongue is bleeding now as I biting it to keep from laughing. Turns out that saliva has some pretty good amounts of salt and sugar in it, had to buy a new keyboard from HP and install it for her. She ended up passing out while driving a few months later.. I had to get her desktop background off her machine to print for her husband... Nice lady, ran the community. ryan On Dec 22, 2009, at 12:55 PM, Robert West wrote: I have one customer who burns up laptops. Not from overheating or whatever, but from cigarettes. She sits in front of the laptop drinking and smoking and passes out with the cigarette landing on the keyboard or against the screen. Has killed three in the past 2 years that way. Sure, we replace keyboards and lcd panels but eventually it dies from repeated abuse. Or beer being spilled on it. Works for awhile until it gets fuzzy inside. Yuck! Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of D. Ryan Spott Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 3:34 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Being Rude to Customers Alcoholism is the leading cause of rude customers. Quite a few customers on our network have a do not call after 8:3, 9:30, 10:20AM note because they are totally out of it. Perfectly polite people before that time.. but after... WOW! ryan On Dec 22, 2009, at 12:27 PM, Robert West wrote: That's funny because I ended up having a conversation pretty much like that with the wife. Get a notebook and a pencil, write it down. I took it upon myself, after call number 5, to try to login to FaceBook with his username and password, password was wrong, reset it, retrieved his email, changed his password... yada, yada, yada... (I hate yada, yada, yada, by the way) Wife tells me that she thinks he changed it last night when he was drunk so that she couldn't get on his account. But after all of that I hear... See, I told you it was their fault because he fixed it. *sigh* I have to add that they are in their late 60's. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scottie Arnett Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 3:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Being Rude to Customers Send him a gift wrapped notebook and pencil with Merry Chrismyassmas written on it from just-micro.com. Include a note saying, With this, you should never have a problem with remembering your passwords, if you just use it. Scottie -- Original Message -- From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 11:33:43 -0500 Is it okay to say Merry Chrismyassmas to a customer who calls you yelling because it's your fault he can't remember his Facebook password? (Somehow I'm blocking his FaceBook password) Just wondering what my options are Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. 740-335-7020 --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] Wireless High Speed Broadband service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $30.00/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com/wireless.html for information. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Nanostation NSM5
You will have 1 container less to count if the shipment comes in at the right time! :) ryan On Dec 16, 2009, at 5:58 PM, Eje Gustafsson wrote: Yepp that is the shipment with the antennas. I thought the antennas was on the shipment we were to receive last week but it's on the shipment that is still on its way hopefully should be in no later than next week because we want to ship as many out we can before we close for inventory between Christmas and new years. Hopefully we will just be closed for no more than 2 days there but could be longer depending how the count will go. / Eje WISP-Router, Inc. Follow us on twitter.com/wisprouter -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Piehn Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 7:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Nanostation NSM5 Any idea if you have antennas on that shipment, the 16-120s in particular Scott Piehn - Original Message - From: Eje Gustafsson e...@wisp-router.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 7:27 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Nanostation NSM5 Last weeks shipment is all gone of the NSM5's but another container is following closely behind hopefully should have it in next week. / Eje WISP-Router, Inc. Follow us on twitter.com/wisprouter -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 5:57 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Nanostation NSM5 You can check with CTI, I talked to them Monday and they had a few but had to buy 4 or 5 to get them. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 6:48 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Nanostation NSM5 Anyone have the Ubiquiti Nanostation NSM5 in stock? Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Telephones such. Was:Not About Health Insurance
On some smart-phones you can set them so only the people in your address book get CID. Everyone else is blocked. ryan On Dec 9, 2009, at 9:59 PM, RickG wrote: Yes on VZW. Now that may be the way to go. I tried blocking CID but hated that my wife son didnt know it was me calling. Thanks! On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 11:17 PM, Patrick Shoemaker shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com wrote: If you are using a VZW cell phone, you can disable outgoing CID for all calls. It can be re-enabled on a per-call basis using *82. Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com Josh Luthman wrote: I won't help you spoof CID but I can help you with the user thing. On 12/9/09, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: Or spoof your caller ID to something outrageous like the seafood department at Kroger. Just a thought. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Telephones such. Was:Not About Health Insurance Well, either one of those are good ideas but I'm more in the 11th commandment Thou shalt not hassle. Call me lazy but I make way too many calls to add even more digits. I'll go for your second suggestion when I get the time. Thanks! On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: Simply *67 if you call from your cell phone. Or if you're like me use the remote phone feature. You use your phone to call your work phone, then issue commands to have the work phone call someone. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 1:31 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Ya, I put a stop to that quick. The only number I've ever given is my office number. The bad thing about caller ID is they collect your cell number when you call them. To fix that, I got a second line and have no voicemail on it. LOL, you can always send them to rejectionhotline.com! -RickG On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: To your house? Now that's just creepy. What I've always done is given them this number - 9375522343. It's a DID on L3 and routes to our switch. The switch and such makes it ring to my user, Josh Luthman. My user is built on a Cisco 79xx phone. If my phone is OOS it goes straight to my cell. If I don't answer it and I am not on the phone, it auto forwards to my cell. If I have it on DND straight to VM. I tell customers that one number is the only number you need is the main number, but if you need me specifically then call 2343 and I'll help you as soon as I can. On those special nights just tap the DND button and I'm disconnected. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 12:59 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Every customer had my cell number but it became way too much burden. Nothing like being interupted while enjoying a movie because theire laptop wont connect to their wireless router. Oh ya, I even got the proverbial my mouse wont work last week! My greeting even said, please call the office but everyone thinks they are special. So, after 5 years, I finally changed my cell number and force them to call into the office. Ah, life is sooo much better! Now, all I have to do is move so they stop coming to my house! -RickG On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: I stated my own business because I wanted a flexible schedule. Hmm.. 180+ hours a week, 6 days officially in the office yet doing installs and such, on Sunday, well. Hanging sectors, running cable, walking around Home Depot looking for ideas on how to build the impossible, welding, drilling... And answering the cell phone! Vacation? I'm with ya. No vacation for ME for over 3 years yet the wife went to on one for almost a month last summer. And I continued having my flexible schedule. I hate the cell phone. HATE IT! Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto: wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of MDK Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:28 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Not About Health Insurance Yahh... Me too. It's a small one. My customers have my cell phone number. We have lost more customers to home sales than any other factor ( we picked up some of the buyers, though,
Re: [WISPA] Fixing buried cable
If you are running more than 6-7mbits then use some other splice or replace the whole cable. If you are running less than this, then most any splice will work. :) ryan On Dec 8, 2009, at 2:45 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: I think anything you do, as long as the conductors are connected and protected from the weather will be fine. Just keep as many twists in the wire as you can. I've made some pretty nasty splices in the past and they all worked perfectly. I just have a thing about looking professional and not like duct tape and twine. But that stuff works too! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Reed Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 5:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fixing buried cable Ugly isn't an issue as the cable is so short I want dig up a foot of it, re-splice it and bury the splice. Robert West wrote: I've used those 3-m or scotch crimp button connectors before, got a box of them still in the van. It's really ugly though and you have to make sure you keep as many twists in the wire as you can. But then you still have to seal it all and RTV would be my choice. If I had to, and if I had any slack, stick the splice down a short tube of maybe PVC and pump it full of silicone. Still an ugly way to go. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Reed Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 5:19 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Fixing buried cable I have a customer that cut the cat 5 right at the ground in September. I put a jack at the ground and a plug on the remaining cable and wrapped it up as well as I could, knowing I would be back. Sure enough, today I went back to re-fix it in the sleet. What fun. I think it is better because I used a cat5 splice device and filled it with RTV. Anyone have a way to fix a cable that is underground? I would rather not run a new cable and make her bury another one if there is another way. -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x4000 Cell: 260-273-7239 --- --- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo TR-902 Firmware
Can you be more specific? ryan On Dec 1, 2009, at 3:00 PM, NGL n...@ngl.net wrote: Has anyone had problems with the new Firmware TR6-5.0.2Rt? If so what and what is the fix? --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Cat3 instead of Cat5
Rick, Do you provide 100mbps service to consumer level connections via wireless links? If I can get 4-12mbits down a cat3 or telco wire for a home user then then I'll probably go for it. ;) Ryan On Nov 18, 2009, at 9:06 AM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Those old phone line units could only do 1Mbps. My question was: Can anyone show me reliable equipment that will do 100Mbps+ on cat 3? Not according to this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_3_cable or my experience. If such an animal exists, I could use it, which is why I asked. We may be in game of semantics here. Can you get 100Mbps? I suppose a short cable on the bench might do it but not in the field reliably. In my experience, in order to get a reliable connection over cat 3, I had to lock down the switch ports to 10Mbps. I would never claim to know it all but I've been around the block a time or two. The windings are to cancel out EMF which can cause errors that affect speed due to transmission retries. The speed capability of a cable is due to the quality of its wire rating - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_5_cable and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_6_cable Obviously, by utilizing more that 2 pair, you can do some interesting things. -RickG On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:58 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: Phone line is twisted pair and normally 2 pair. Transmit and receive. Can easily do 100mbps. You could even get it to do gigabit with not much effort. No PoE though, no pair for that. HOWEVER, the problems come from the nasty connections everyone including the phone company has made. Most phone line isn't clean like a network cable you would run. Who knows where the hell the splices and rodent chewed ends are at and if they stick with a common wiring scheme throughout the structure. If it was the best option, you could at least test and give up quickly if it fell on its face. There used to be some home networking nics that used the phone lines in the home and you could also use the phones with the things connected. That was in the late 1990's, early 2000. Some Gateway desktops came with them. I never saw them used though. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 12:02 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cat3 instead of Cat5 That would be great! But, I cant find anything on the net except references to the standard being 10Mbps: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_3_cable Any examples? On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 9:38 PM, Kevin Neal ke...@safelink.net wrote: With the right equipment I've heard of gigabit over rusted old barbwire! -Kevin On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 7:32 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: 100Mbps on cat 3? Really? On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.comwrote: We currently run a Cat5 into the wall then put a jack into the house. My question is since you can get 100MB through a Cat3 which is the same as a phone line why can't we run the connection into their phone line? Most of our customers have cell phone only and their internal wiring is virtually unused. Thanks, Forbes --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Nano Sation 2
I have been hearing 'bout that '1-2 week period' for about 10 weeks now. Ryan On Nov 12, 2009, at 3:13 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just- micro.com wrote: Wlanparts has it. I also got an email from Ben over at Ubiquiti who says ...the big volumes haven't landed yet...There are some that have hit over the past couple of days, but the big volumes will be hitting in that 1-2 week period. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Nick Olsen Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 5:18 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nano Sation 2 Where from? Or was this a case of Nick not being able to detect internet sarcasm. Nick Olsen Brevard Wireless (321) 205-1100 x106 From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 4:10 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nano Sation 2 The boat has arrived..! Shesh I was able to order so much that now I have to find a way to hide it from the wife. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Data Technology Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 10:38 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nano Sation 2 I think they need a bigger boat!! Robert West wrote: Yeah, but I call them by a different name, Microtik411RS2CardPacGridOutdoorEnclosure. It's gotten to the point that my substitute for the NS2 has actually become in use more than what it has been substituted for. *sigh* Word has it they're on the boat. Always on the boat. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Barnes Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 9:25 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Nano Sation 2 Need NS2's anyone have them? Steve Barnes Manager PCS-WINhttp://www.pcswin.com/ RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Servicehttp://www.rcwifi.com/ Character cannot be developed in ease and quiet. Only through experience of trial and suffering can the soul be strengthened, vision cleared, ambition inspired, and success achieved. - Helen Keller _ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Lists Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 8:47 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Thank You for Your Service! I know that many WISPs are Veterans. I think the business of being a WISP sort of attracts the vets. It is the business of going where no one has gone before, making it work and storming the path. I want to say, Thank you for your Service and it was an honor to serve! To all you USMC vets, Semper Fi! God bless, Victoria Proffer - President/CEO StLouisBroadband.comhttp://stlbroadband.com/ ShowMeBroadband.comhttp://showmebroadband.com/ Rural Missouri Wireless Project. 314.974.5600 * Fax 573.747.4756 Follow us on Twitter.com @stlbroadband SBA Certified WOSB File: ATT1.c OLE Object: Picture (Device Independent Bitmap) --- --- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by the Data Technology MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --- --- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:
Re: [WISPA] Metered Billing
When I setup metering for the colo I used to work for we bought in $15k in overages a month. It was great! Ryan On Nov 7, 2009, at 10:59 AM, Scott Reed scottr...@onlyinternet.net wrote: With the proper setup the network complexity does not change. Why would I want to give up additional revenue? Travis Johnson wrote: 10% of your customers will use 90% of your resources. Direct that 10% customer base to cable or DSL and stop worrying about adding complexity to your network. Travis Microserv Chuck Profito wrote: Marlon does this and smiles every time he signs a Bandwidth Hog! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Eric Rogers Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 4:56 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Metered Billing We are on the verge of changing to a metered or tiered billing structure with Caps that once they exceed the cap; it doesn't shut off, but they get charged the overage. Netflix is getting out of control and I don't want to punish the customers that only use it occasionally. I think they are very innovative solutions and don't want to hinder new applications. I just want people that download 160 GB in a month, when the average is nearly 10 GB a month, to pay their share for expanding the network. Who has dabbled in the metered/tiered services and what were your customers responses? What are your tiers? Have attitudes changed toward your company as being greedy? We already have everything in place to do it, just need to send out the letter saying we are doing it and why. Eric Rogers Precision Data Solutions, LLC (317) 831-3000 x200 --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- - No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.53/2486 - Release Date: 11/07/09 07:38:00 -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x4000 Cell: 260-273-7239 --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Buffering video.
On Youtube, right click and change the buffer to infinity. You have to do this for each website. *.youtube.com, *.youporn.com etc... ryan On Oct 15, 2009, at 8:22 PM, Mike wrote: How come the Windows video codecs don't buffer before playing? If youtube videos stutter, I hear about it. Is there a video buffering software you use and recommend? The algorithm to figure out buffering would be trivial. I have speedbit installed but am less than pleased. Mike WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Competitor at -40
Ha! I have a pic of a competitor pointing a 13db 900 MHz panel at my gear. 30 feet away at the same colo site! ryan On Oct 13, 2009, at 11:41 AM, Jeremy Parr jeremyp...@gmail.com wrote: Gotta love it. Picking up another wisps overamped Omni at -40 with a 16dbi panel, pointed *away* from them. I thought this was supposed to be a fun job? --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] To G or not to G :-)
(below is from http://en.allexperts.com/e/i/ie/ieee_802.11e.htm) HCCA: The HCCA works a lot like the PCF: the interval between two beacon frames is divided into two periods, the CFP and the CP. During the CFP, the Hybrid Coordinator (HC) controls the access to the medium. During the CP, all stations function in EDCA. The main difference with the PCF is that Traffic Classes (TC) are defined. Also, the HC can coordinate the traffic in any fashion it chooses (not just round-robin). Moreover, the stations give info about the lengths of their queues for each Traffic Class (TC). The HC can use this info to give priority to one station over another. Another difference is that stations are given a TXOP: they may send multiple packets in a row, for a given time period selected by the HC. During the CP, the HC allows stations to send data by sending CF-Poll frames. --- PCF: The original 802.11 MAC defines another coordination function called the Point Coordination Function (PCF): this is available only in infrastructure mode, where stations are connected to the network through an Access Point (AP). This mode is optional, and only very few APs or Wi-Fi adapters actually implement it. APs send beacon frames at regular intervals (usually every 0.1 second). Between these beacon frames, PCF defines two periods: the Contention Free Period (CFP) and the Contention Period (CP). In CP, the DCF is simply used. In CFP, the AP sends Contention Free-Poll (CF-Poll) packets to each station, one at a time, to give them the right to send a packet. The AP is the coordinator. This allows for a better management of the QoS. Unfortunately, the PCF has limited support and a number of limitations (for example, it does not define classes of traffic). HCCA is generally considered the most advanced (and complex) coordination function. With the HCCA, QoS can be configured with great precision. QoS-enabled stations have the ability to request specific transmission parameters (data rate, jitter, etc.) which should allow advanced applications like VoIP and video streaming to work more effectively on a Wi-Fi network. HCCA support is not mandatory for 802.11e APs. In fact, few (if any) APs currently available are enabled for HCCA. The Wi-Fi Alliance has a forthcoming certification (WMM Scheduled Access) that will allow network integrators to easily distinguish APs that allow HCCA. --- (below is just from my limited knowlege) PA: Power Amplifier --- (below is from http://www.wirelessdictionary.com/wireless_dictionary_UMTS_LTE_PAPR_Definition.html ) PAPR: Peak to Average Power Ratio; Peak to average power ratio is a comparison of the peak power detected over a period of sample time to the average power level that occurs over the same time period. SC-FDMA has a lower PAPR as compared to other radio channel structures such as OFDMA. --- (below is from http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=1069514 and http://www.gigascale.org/pubs/1333.html ) EVM: In digital radio applications, error-vector-magnitude (EVM) is the primary specification which quantifies the performance of digital modulation implemented in silicon. In production testing of wireless systems, measurement of EVM (a critical spec that is directly related to bit error rate) incurs significant test time due to the large numbers of symbols that need to be transmitted for reasons of accuracy. In our approach, EVM is modeled as a function of the system static non-idealities (IQ mismatch, gain, IIP3 parameters) and dynamic non-idealities (system noise, VCO phase noise). Using a selected subset of the OFDM tones, the static parameters are calculated first. These are then used to facilitate noise estimation using a back-end constellation compensation and noise amplification procedure. --- NOW! with that out of the way, let's all put our guns, arrows, cannons, swords, phallic members and the great and powerful REPLY-ALL keys (http://www.kirikiri.com/that/reply.gif) away and THANK the non- member/non-usual poster for his time and information! Lawrence, thanks so much for this posting. A little homework on my/our part using http://lmgtfy.com/?q=802.11+specs really clued me in on some things I have to take into account when doing installs and growing my customer base. And the rest of you! It is Sunday morning, you should all still be in your underwear drinking coffee taking a day off! :) Just think of me at 4000 feet building a repeater shed as the snow starts to fall and have a great day! ryan On Oct 4, 2009, at
Re: [WISPA] OT - Text Messages
Nah, she is not screwed up. My 6 year old has already told me she wants to 'play antenna' like daddy when she grows up. She also wants to drive the bucket truck as her car when she learns to drive! ryan On Sep 29, 2009, at 8:14 AM, St. Louis Broadband li...@stlbroadband.com wrote: And the below message proves that my txt skills are off...(however I corrected it;) What really blows my mind is that she does not want book learning she wants to be an entrepreneur, or a tower climber...I am not sure that she know the meaning of either. I tell her that is an entrepreneur is job that does not pay too well. And tower climbing is a cool job but, by State law, cannot text. Gawd, I screwed her up...lol. V -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of St. Louis Broadband Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 10:03 AM To: 'Robert West'; 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT - Text Messages Her head start that we figured was going to let her take the lead of the pack, came to a slamming halt. I am not sure really what it was, but that is when I noticed the txt msg addiction. And I truly believe it is an addiction, she sleeps with the damn phone next to her... Teenage girls are amazing. It really ticks me that she is actually more computer literate than I in some applications. When I am trying to figure it out, she looks at me like omg...mom is so slow. She can key over 100wpm and is accurate. V -Original Message- From: Robert West [mailto:robert.w...@just-micro.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 9:44 AM To: li...@stlbroadband.com; 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT - Text Messages Oh hell, sounds like my daughter. Sailed right through school, top of the class. Top 3% in the SATs and now, starting 3rd year in college, she finally discovered boys. The talk with her has moved from school to having boyfriend injected in every conversation. And I still have no met him. Scary. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of St. Louis Broadband Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 12:27 AM To: n...@brevardwireless.com; 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT - Text Messages LOL, u assume wrong. She started junior college when she was 16 and made the deans list her first semester J But now she is 18 and has discovered or been discovered by boys. V From: Nick Olsen [mailto:n...@brevardwireless.com] Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 11:20 PM To: li...@stlbroadband.com; WISPA General List Subject: re: [WISPA] OT - Text Messages Talk about Getting your moneys worth in the unlimited text package. Without a package its 25 a message, Which would have made your bill your standard monthly charge plus $7,625. .25x30500 I think the bigger question is. How much time is your daughter wasting texting while in school? /me assumes shes in highschool at 18 (senior I figure). Nick Olsen Brevard Wireless (321) 205-1100 x106 _ From: St. Louis Broadband li...@stlbroadband.com Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 12:09 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] OT - Text Messages I am reviewing my ATT wireless bill. I have myself, my mother and my daughter on a family plan. My mother received 8 text messages, which I am sure she does not know that she has. I received 297 text messages. Some of those were forwards from another email account. However, my 18 year old daughter received 30,500 text messages! How can this be? How can they type on a qwerty board, or actual phone keypad faster than I on a laptop/computer? She has a facebook account, a twitter, and many other accounts/tech that I am not familiar with. Is this a sign of the times or of my age? I started in the Internet industry in 1993. I remember my first AOL annual bill totaling over $5k and this was for 28.8 kbps. That is when I figured that this industry was going to be profitable...darn me for daring to going into fixed wireless. Just had to rant...30,500 txt msgs...omg! Victoria --- --- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
[WISPA] Mountaintop Propane...
Hello, While this is not necessarily a WISP issue, I would like to lean on the experience of the WISPs and wireless operators on these lists. I am building a new repeater site on the top of a 4K foot peak. I have my solar worked out and I am augmenting it with a TEG. The TEG burns propane and I have an excellent lead and cost for both the fuel and the storage vessel. However, I have to pipe the propane 200 feet up from the nearest location that a tank can be sited to the location of energy use. The slope is all baby-head sized rock and is 30-35*. My local plumber is taking a look at the situation now but I am interested in what all of you have seen in your travels. My plumber is concerned about: *The pipe shearing off as it is above ground and there is significant snow in the winter. We plan to run it through some onsite trees along the ridgeline so we have some support against shifting snow. I plan on pouring footings for supports with rollers for expansion, contraction and rubbing against rocks. *Vandalism and leakage. This site is 1000 feet from the nearest 'decent' road. I find that vandals, when required to walk... don't. If the pipe 'springs a leak' is there some sort of valve I can purchase that says: If flow X, then shut down! My plumber is a Lt in my Fire Dept. so Adapt and Overcome is our common mantra. If any of you have experience with this sort of setup, please, drop me a line... pictures are worth thousands of words as well. Thanks so much, ryan WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Changing cards in Mikrotik - now Safety First
I think IIFSTA and the NFPA (while gathering lots of $$) helped quite a bit more than OSHA. :) ryan Forbes Mercy wrote: I have to agree here, I've done more tower climbs alone than I should. Every time I do I'm filled with the feeling that if I fall no one will know until someone comes looking at my remote tower site the next day or so. We all look at OSHA sometimes and think of them as more revenue officers than safety officers. Coming from the Fire Service I think of the countless lives of Firefighters that were saved once OSHA found us. Sure they seem overly picky and arbitrary but when I hang from my bucket truck without a harness or climb a tower alone I can't help but think they were written after so many people lost their lives. This job isn't worth my life. Forbes -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of jp Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 10:24 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Changing cards in Mikrotik You should have someone with you on site when you climb towers. Even if you are self employed and not subject to OSHA rules, it's still a good idea. Most of the tower deaths or falls I read about very likely could have been prevented or lessened with even very modest safety guidelines. Futhermore, if you become some statistic used to calculate insurance rates as a result of unsafe climbing, it will tend make all of our workers comp insurance costs increase collectively. That person on the ground should have a laptop to do the configuring/testing. They can also keep others away from the tower to protect them from falling tools, read off signals while aligning antennas, answer your phone calls, destroy wasp nests, and all the other things you don't want to do. On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 11:42:35AM -0500, Data Technology wrote: Yes I know it is easy to just sit down and configure the card but, I do the tower climbing myself and with even a small 40-60 ft tower, by the time you get down, get the gear off and get to a computer the adrenalin is flowing and you may tend to make a mistake. And after a 160 ft tower you (me) are more tired and you can overlook something that you would normally catch in an instance. I guess there are pros and cons to both ways. LaRoy Scott Carullo wrote: It takes less than one minute to configure an interface? Just because you put a like card in there doesn't mean ROS should assume its the same freq, same power output etc. I think its actually better it lets you set it up instead of assuming a like replacement. My 2 cents Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 Original Message From: Data Technology w...@dtisp.com Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 12:19 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Changing cards in Mikrotik As much as I Love Mikrotik, I HATE the fact that you have to reconfigure when you change out a card. I don't see why Mikrotik did not design it to work like StarOS. I have 1 StarOS AP still running and I had to change out a CM9 that went out. This AP has not been touched in probably 4 years. I just took out the old card, put in the new one and the users were passing traffic before I could close the lid. This was one of the few good things I liked about StarOS. Ok, just feels good to rant and rave every now and then. LaRoy McCann Data Technology www.dtisp.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by the Data Technology MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
[WISPA] Mountain Top Grounding
I have a site I am putting in on a mountain-top consisting of stacked rocks. Well, they were stacked by glaciers, Techtonic movements, Paul Bunyan etc... Mostly 6-30 across with bedrock downthere somewhere. Do any of you have a site like this? How did you or the site owner ground the site? I don't see grounding rods working really well. ryan WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?
Most of the GPS capability on cell phones is quasi GPS using cell tower locations to give location data. When there is only 1 cell tower in the area, it is sorta hard to do triangulation! ryan On Aug 21, 2009, at 5:45 AM, Scott Reed wrote: Because 1/2 the cell phones on the planet don't have GPS Because not everyone carries a cell phone. Because sometimes it may be necessary to have the cell phone to talk on while looking at the GPS. Curtis Maurand wrote: Good God, half the cell phones on the planet have GPS built into them. I used a Motorola Razr as a GPS on my last trip to Virginia a couple of years ago. iPhones and Blackberry's and Palm Pre's have them and the ability to link them to Google Maps. Job's done. Why carry a separate GPS? I don't get it. --Curtis Robert West wrote: I'm finally getting rid of my Delorme Earthmate GPS unit. It has served me well these past 10 years. I will certainly miss having to boot up my laptop, plug the thing into the serial port of my OLD laptop because the newer ones do not have the serial port and to use that USB to serial adapter is more fun that I could handle Then hope and pray that the batteries in the Earthmate are still good for I always forget to check before I go out But with that said, I need a replacement. I've been looking at some small Garmin all weather units but they seem to stress geo-caching and hiking. If I had time for that, it may get my attention, but I own a small business that I started because I needed to be more flexible with my time. Working 80 hours+ a week is about as flexible as it gets so no, I do not have time for that sort of crazy, high on life sort of living. I simply need a GPS that I won't break (or be too badly damaged) when I drop it off a 70 foot AP (it will happen, trust me), that will not be ruined when I forget it on the top of the same AP and go home and it just happens to rain overnight, can be recharged in the van and will give me the two pieces of information I really desire. My location coordinates and how high I am. Someone else can mess with all those other functions, I'd have to give it to my 4 year old to figure that stuff out anyhow, I just need to know where and how high. Anyone have a good recommendation on a handheld GPS unit? (I guess I could have just said one line but it's not as fun) Thanks in advance. Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.63/2316 - Release Date: 08/20/09 18:06:00 -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x4000 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Redirect
Someone on the list had a story about causing a panic when a screen with you didn't pay your bill was flashed to an early morning employee. I guess they thought the company was shutting down. Now the page just says: Please contact us. ryan On Aug 12, 2009, at 1:08 PM, Jason Wallace wrote: Could someone sue for this? In a pizza shop in a town I used to live by, there was a wall of shame where they posted all bounced checks for everyone to see with a little sign at the top that if your check bounced it would be posted there until you paid up. I would never do it, but it was a great incentive! Jason Jonathan Schmidt wrote: Yes, Mike, it isn't the same as sending a letter...even if the color of the envelope is indicative of some situation. Nevertheless, the legal rules are very strict...nobody but the addressee can open it. When you put something on every screen on every PC using a subscriber's account and reveal any financial matter, especially an embarrassing one, a hot head may, when enraged, do all sorts of things...especially if the mistake isn't theirs (which is a small but possible event). If you can get the account holder to sign into a Web site with their assigned USERNAME and PASSWORD...that's OK and you can exchange confidential information. If you can get them to call, that's OK (...can I have your name and last 4 digits of your SS#?). Creating a gated garden which allows an immediate click-to- restore but states that a situation exists that requires the account holder to call a phone number is OK since it doesn't slander the account holder (maybe mistakenly), can verify the account holder, and, if the message screen is only on port 80 and doesn't stop the VoIP phone from accessing 911, etc., there is no jeopardy. And, that screen can come more and more frequently...maybe every 5 minutes until they call. ...just a further thought. . . . j o n a t h a n -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 11:27 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Redirect You're correct with the liability thing... it sucks that people sue over such petty things. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Jonathan Schmidt jeschm...@jeschmidt.com Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 6:38 PM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Redirect There is some potential liability in this. You don't know if friends are visiting and using the computer...or, the subscriber has an Wi-Fi w/o WAP/WEP and others are (potentially accidentally) using it. In any case, you could be slandering the subscriber by calling them deadbeats to other people. It seems more polite to hit them over and over or persistantly with a demand that they contact a phone number to address a problem with their subscription. It also may stop a law suit...a typical response from a real deadbeat. Cutting off the service is an option but it may enrage the person to never do business with that company again. What you need to do is talk with them without slandering them. ...just a thought... . . . J o n a t h a n -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of sa...@michianawireless.com Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 6:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Redirect Well. We kinda do this now. When a customer get to far out. We manually add a rule to the router at the tower site he is connected to that redirects all his port 80 traffic to a webpage that says basically, You didn't pay you bill for a long time and you need to contact us and make a payment to before your web surfing will be available again. Email still works, etc... We will still do that. But what I am trying to accomplish is to have my billing system log into the client as soon as is hits 31+ in the billing system and set a rule on the router board that will now occasionally interrupt the clients web browsing by redirecting them to a page letting them know they are now 31+ past due and offer them the chance to pay now. If they chose to not pay now, they can just continue with what they were doing. This way they are always in the know that they are behind and are presented with a way to cure that immediately. Again since the client is not way behind I just want the surfing to be redirect occasionally. Next step would be after this is gone on and they hit 40 days the next script would be ran where it redirects all there web traffic indefinitely to the pay your bill page until paid. I hope that explains it better. Thanks, John - Original Message
Re: [WISPA] work order software
zendesk.com Wonderful. :) Free or really cheap. ryan On Aug 10, 2009, at 7:08 PM, RickG wrote: Any idea of price? -RickG On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Curtis Maurandcmaur...@xyonet.com wrote: I kind of like this one. http://www.accord5.com/trellis Jason Hensley wrote: We use Wombat that is built in to Platypus. Inexpensive is a relative term :-) For us, it's well worth the $99/mth that we pay for it. For others, that may not be worth it at all. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 11:53 AM To: fai...@snappydsl.net; WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] work order software I'm looking for an inexpensive work order management solution. - RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo 900 Latency
Remember that you can do these changes from the command line with Curl! Use Curl to do something like this: curl -m 10 -u username:password http://1.2.3.4/set_config.cgi?wireless.beacon_period=1000admin.cmd=store curl -m 10 -u username:password http://1.2.3.4/set_config.cgi?admin.cmd=reboot No Curl? Do it by hand? (excel is your friend here to gen up a big list of URLs to click. http://username:passw...@1.2.3.4/set_config.cgi?wireless.beacon_period=1000admin.cmd=store http://username:passw...@1.2.3.4/set_config.cgi?admin.cmd=reboot Wanna verify that everything is cool a few minutes later Run these 3 lines and then check out test1.txt for the ones you missed. curl -m 10 -u username:password http://1.2.3.4/download_config.cgi | grep device_name test1.txt curl -m 10 -u username:password http://1.2.3.4/download_config.cgi | grep net.ip_address test1.txt curl -m 10 -u username:password http://1.2.3.4/download_config.cgi | grep wireless.beacon_period test1.txt ryan On Aug 7, 2009, at 6:45 AM, John Scrivner wrote: Thanks for all these good tips. The items below are the things we have tried so far with no success. We are using smaller channels, H-pol. Filters have not helped the problem, noise floor is actually pretty good, C/I of about 20 on most CPE.. We are going to try the two setting changes that Daniel and Tom advised in other posts relating to beacon and RTS on clients. I will report our results. Thanks to all! Scriv On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 9:33 AM, 3-dB Networks wi...@3-db.net wrote: What does your noise floor look like? C/I? Have you tried moving from H-pol to V-pol and vice versa? Could it be self interference (which I think might be the biggest problem with 900MHz, at least the possibility of it)? What type of antennas are you using... can you sectorize further or put higher gain antennas at the clients? Can you add filters possibly to help with the noise? How large are your channels? Can you use a smaller channel? Assuming your sectors are not overloaded... I would assume interference too. Now I would pitch Canopy... but I'm sure you don't want to hear that :-D Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 7:10 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Tranzeo 900 Latency We have a couple of sectors of 900 MHz Tranzeo which were running fine previously but seem to experience enormous latency at times now. I am talking about upwards of 5000 milliseconds (5 full seconds) for a return on a ping. It is intermittent. I am guessing interference but was wondering if anyone had seen anything else cause this. We have had limited success in dealing with interference in 900 MHz previously so we are hoping there is something else we can try before completely bailing on the band in those locations. Any ideas are appreciated. John Scrivner WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo 900 Latency
Hey Marlon, Are you totally bridged or are you routed to each Tower? ryan Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Most of my tranzeo AP's have had to be replaced due to similar things. They started out good, but as people have done more things with the internet they are dying. We're changing them ALL. The tr6000 and 6600 anyway. These days they can't seem to handle more than 4 or 5 subs on them. Sometimes even less. The new firmware fixed the lockups (mostly) but created what you're seeing here. Intermittent REALLY slow performance. Junk. BTW, this happens in places where there is a lot of interference or nearly none. No rhyme or reason that I can figure. Other than the amount of traffic or maybe threads going through them. Good luck, marlon - Original Message - From: John Scrivner j...@scrivner.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 7:09 AM Subject: [WISPA] Tranzeo 900 Latency We have a couple of sectors of 900 MHz Tranzeo which were running fine previously but seem to experience enormous latency at times now. I am talking about upwards of 5000 milliseconds (5 full seconds) for a return on a ping. It is intermittent. I am guessing interference but was wondering if anyone had seen anything else cause this. We have had limited success in dealing with interference in 900 MHz previously so we are hoping there is something else we can try before completely bailing on the band in those locations. Any ideas are appreciated. John Scrivner WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo 900 Latency
They aren't off-list... Are people not seeing me ramble? ryan -Original Message- From: Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 3:23 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo 900 Latency Hey buddy Its comical to see you replying to Ryan's off-list emails (X3) to you on-list. It's like listening to one side of stereo, like a half duplex conversation, like talking to yourself. :) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 3:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo 900 Latency Bridged. Kinda. We have small sites that are fed via dsl so I guess you'd call those bridged. Same issues there as on segments that have a few hundred users. The funny thing is that the MT gear that goes in usually doubles the speeds and has NO problems with lockups etc. marlon - Original Message - From: D. Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 11:38 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo 900 Latency Hey Marlon, Are you totally bridged or are you routed to each Tower? ryan Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Most of my tranzeo AP's have had to be replaced due to similar things. They started out good, but as people have done more things with the internet they are dying. We're changing them ALL. The tr6000 and 6600 anyway. These days they can't seem to handle more than 4 or 5 subs on them. Sometimes even less. The new firmware fixed the lockups (mostly) but created what you're seeing here. Intermittent REALLY slow performance. Junk. BTW, this happens in places where there is a lot of interference or nearly none. No rhyme or reason that I can figure. Other than the amount of traffic or maybe threads going through them. Good luck, marlon - Original Message - From: John Scrivner j...@scrivner.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 7:09 AM Subject: [WISPA] Tranzeo 900 Latency We have a couple of sectors of 900 MHz Tranzeo which were running fine previously but seem to experience enormous latency at times now. I am talking about upwards of 5000 milliseconds (5 full seconds) for a return on a ping. It is intermittent. I am guessing interference but was wondering if anyone had seen anything else cause this. We have had limited success in dealing with interference in 900 MHz previously so we are hoping there is something else we can try before completely bailing on the band in those locations. Any ideas are appreciated. John Scrivner WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.45/2285 - Release Date: 08/06/09 05:57:00 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] Tower Locations
Hrm... Wifi for tugboat operators... ryan -Original Message- From: Blake Bowers bbow...@mozarks.com Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 8:28 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower Locations I have nothing to do with these towers - I have been offered them a couple of times, but they are not cellular capable so they don't really fit into a tower companies plans. They are all Rohn 45 and 55 with the exception of the NOLA tower. They were put up for a two way radio system covering those navigable waterways for tugboat communications. Just over a million and you could own all of them. FL Pensacola Santa Rosa 30 34' 08.5 87 06' 10.5 295' IA Bryant Jackson 42 02' 03.5 90 20' 18.5 295' IA Lansing Allamakee 43 14' 32 91 10' 18 295' IA Sherrill Dubuque 42 37' 04.5 90 46' 37 295' IL Adrian Hancock 40 32' 40 91 07' 11 295' IL Bald Knob Union 37 33' 38.7 89 21' 15.5 180' IL Beardstown Morgan 39 50' 21 90 28' 14 295' IL Midway Massac 37 14' 36 88 36' 04.5 290' IL Ottawa LaSalle 41 10' 33 89 02' 18 350' IL Peoria Peoria 40 40' 55 89 49' 05 295' IL Reynolds Rock Island 41 19' 45 90 39' 37 295' IL Waterloo Monroe 38 16' 13 90 14' 41 295' KY Bedford Trimble 38 36' 23 85 20' 02 295' KY Fords Ferry Crittenden 37 26' 57 88 05' 37 190' KY Letitia Greenup 38 36' 10 83 03' 41 180' KY Nicholson Kenton 38 55' 47 84 33' 25 295' KY Union Star Breckinridge 38 01' 26 86 29' 01 190' LA Bayou Goula Iberville Parish 30 12' 33 91 08' 44 295' LA Lake Charles Cameron Parish 30 00' 54 93 14' 30 295' LA Laurel Hill West Feliciana Parish 30 55' 54 91 20' 22 LA Morgan City Assumption Parish 29 41' 56 91 03' 18 295' LA New Orleans Jefferson Parish 29 56' 42 90 10' 30.2 295' MN Ridgeway Winona 43 57' 10 91 36' 04 350' MO Hannibal Ralls 39 36' 26 91 18' 01 295' MS Bay St. Louis Harrison 30 26' 44 89 18' 08 350' MS Commerce Desoto 34 51' 38.8 90 10' 52.3 295' MS Greenville Washington 33 18' 33 91 01' 59.9 295' MS Natchez Adams 31 40' 26 91 19' 48.5 295' MS Oak Ridge Warren 32 28' 47 90 42' 44.7 295' MS Sherard Coahoma 34 09' 45.9 90 46' 03.9 295' OH Arabia Lawrence 38 38' 27 82 24' 37 295' OH Bashan Meigs 39 03' 21 81 49' 53 295' OH Neel Adams 38 46' 23 83 38' 55 295' OH New Metamoras Monroe 39 34' 45 81 05' 03.5 295' OH Shadyside Belmont 39 58' 49 80 49' 05.5 295' TN Fulton Lauderdale 35 37' 32.1 89 51' 23.6 190' TN Hickman Obion 36 29' 35 89 16' 18 295' TX Port O'Conner Calhoun 28 33' 08.5 96 36' 31 295' TX Sargent Matacorda 28 52' 39 95 39' 35 350' For individual tower details and pricing call Rick Frizalone direct at 407.792.1570 or 866.598.7426, ext 529. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: Joe Miller joe.mil...@dslbyair.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 10:20 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower Locations Anyone willing to share this information with the group? - Original Message From: Blake Bowers bbow...@mozarks.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 3:03:55 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower Locations Those Rohn 45 and 55 towers are also for sale. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 2:28 PM Subject: [WISPA] Tower Locations I have come across a network of 40 towers available for rent in the Illinois, Mississippi, and Ohio River valleys as well as the Gulf. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
Re: [WISPA] NCIC, FIPS, and wireless
I provide some service to the local PD. You provide transport, and transport only. The PD and their IT guys should do all of the encryption... You REALLY don't want to be responsible for the security of their data. Does the telco provide encryption? No way.. Easy and cheap to do, but the risk! If you are the contracted IT guy then do it as a separate part of the contract.. Then have a third party certify your system. The higher up LEO will probably do this for you. (sheriff or state patrol) Hope this helps, ryan ryan -Original Message- From: Jon Auer j...@tapodi.net Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 9:51 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] NCIC, FIPS, and wireless In our area the police use EVDO broadband cards over the open internet. Access to their network is over a IPSEC VPN. Not sure if that is technically in compliance or not but they have been running like that for over a year. On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 11:47 AM, Rogelioscubac...@gmail.com wrote: I'm planning out a wireless network, and the police want a piece of the action. I'm also guessing that FIPS compliancy addresses NCIC concerns, and I was wondering if anyone could comment on that being sufficient. I'm also wondering if a dual form of authentication adequately addresses the security issues. From what I can tell, if the police do any of the following things (listed in the URL below), then they have to follow NCIC http://www.fbi.gov/hq/cjisd/ncic.htm A contact of mine who works for the police tells me the following interesting things about NCIC, which I'd love feedback on... --if you use PtP links (e.g. T1 lines) between sites, requirements are very lax --if you don't use PtP links, then you'll likely need two form authentication (not necessarily two on separate bands) --everyone assumes that a police network *will* be in compliance --people often build police networks with compliance, as someone will inevitably put secure stuff on top of it later --the penalty for not being compliant is getting shut down until everything is reviewed --only police departments can ask the DOJ for clarification on what is and isn't compliant (vendors can't ask directly) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 802.11 CPE's
As a WISPA member I suggest a WISPA vendor: http://www.linktechs.net/ that sells FCC Cert-ed systems. I think WISPA members get a discount... But I am not sure. ryan On Jul 20, 2009, at 3:09 PM, Mike wrote: Looking for a good MT vendor. The fellow I've been trying to work with has gone AWOL. I need to get a link going for a community project pretty quickly. Regards, Mike WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] FW: Introducing Bullet M: 100+Mbps Real TCP/IP Throughput
A vendor local to me lamented that he had JUST bought several cases of ns2 and right when he recieved the often delayed for manufacturing shipment... They released the pico bullet etc line so all of his inbound sales calls were 'hey! Do you have any poco bullets etc in stock?' Why doesn't ubnt distribute into the channel secretly first THEN announce the product so you can... You know Buy the product. ryan On Jul 21, 2009, at 3:14 PM, Michael Baird m...@tc3net.com wrote: Ubiquiti does release product with zero stock. They take orders from their resellers after the announcement, and fill them in batches. Right now Bullet2HP's and Loco's are hard to find for example. They essentially don't manufacture product until it's sold. Regards Michael Baird I was looking at it myself. Everyone is negative stock-wise. At least that's what I see. Just like Ubiquiti to release a product with zero stock. Darn good products but I swear, they must have got their marketing ideas from the Nintendo, PlayStation and McRib sandwich. Create a demand by having your products available sporadically. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Kilton Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 5:34 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] FW: Introducing Bullet M: 100+Mbps Real TCP/IP Throughput http://e2ma.net/oz/2226372211/2026197/10197/spacer.gif http://e2ma.net/oz/2226372211/2026197/10197/spacer.gif If you're having trouble viewing this email, you may see it online http://e2ma.net/map/view=CampaignPublic/id=10197.2226372211/rid=0bb40cf d2aa52f2df60569807ae43a20 . http://e2ma.net/map/view=Forward/ID=10197.2226372211/rid=0bb40cfd2aa52f 2df60569807ae43a20/send_to_friend Forward this message to a friend Anybody heard anything about this yet or where you can get to try? -Cam -Original Message- From: Ubiquiti Networks Inc. [mailto:sa...@ubnt.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 4:06 PM To: c...@midcoast.com Subject: Introducing Bullet M: 100+Mbps Real TCP/IP Throughput http://e2ma.net/go/2226372211/2026197/75867791/10197/goto:http:/www.ubn t.com Ubiquiti Home Page http://www.ubnt.com/company/newsletter/0109/images/0109_linktop.gif http://e2ma.net/go/2226372211/2026197/75867794/10197/goto:http:/www.ubn t.com/company Company http://e2ma.net/go/2226372211/2026197/75867796/10197/goto:http:/www.ubn t.com/products Products http://e2ma.net/go/2226372211/2026197/75867798/10197/goto:http:/www.ubn t.com/purchase Purchase http://e2ma.net/go/2226372211/2026197/75867800/10197/goto:http:/forum.u bnt.com Forum http://www.ubnt.com/company/newsletter/0109/images/0109_linkbot.gif Introducting Bullet M http://www.ubnt.com/company/newsletter/0113/images/0113_text_title1_bul let.gif 100+Mbps Real TCP/IP Throughput over multi-km links AirView http://www.ubnt.com/company/newsletter/0113/images/0113_bm.jpg Introducing the revolutionary 802.11n based Bullet M. Available in 2.4GHz (Bullet M2 HP) and 5GHz (Bullet M5 HP) versions. http://e2ma.net/go/2226372211/2026197/75867802/10197/goto:http:/www.ubn t.com/products/bulletm.php Read More http://e2ma.net/go/2226372211/2026197/75867804/10197/goto:http:/ubnt.co m/forum/viewtopic.php?p=43290 Discuss HiPower, Long-Range http://www.ubnt.com/company/newsletter/0113/images/0113_text_title2_hp . gif XR1 http://www.ubnt.com/company/newsletter/0113/images/0113_map.jpg With up to 600mW of power and enhanced receiver design, the Bullet M is ideal for long-distance links. http://e2ma.net/go/2226372211/2026197/75867806/10197/goto:http:/www.ubn t.com/products/bulletm.php Read More http://e2ma.net/go/2226372211/2026197/75867808/10197/goto:http:/www.ubn t.com/forum/ Discuss Zero Variable Deployment http://www.ubnt.com/company/newsletter/0113/images/0113_text_title3_zer o.gif XR1 http://www.ubnt.com/company/newsletter/0113/images/0113_z.jpg No host boards, no mini-PCI Cards, no cables, no assembly. With the Bullet, operators can just plug and go. http://e2ma.net/go/2226372211/2026197/75867810/10197/goto:http:/www.ubn t.com/products/bulletm.php Read More http://e2ma.net/go/2226372211/2026197/75867812/10197/goto:http:/www.ubn t.com/forum/ Discuss 100Mbps+ Speed with no Special Antenna Required http://www.ubnt.com/company/newsletter/0113/images/0113_text_title4_tp . gif SR71-X, 802.11n Xpress Card http://www.ubnt.com/company/newsletter/0113/images/0113_tp.jpg The Bullet M series can be paired with any antenna to deliver 100Mbps+ of real TCP/IP speed over the air. The first cost-effective outdoor device in the world to do so. http://e2ma.net/go/2226372211/2026197/75867813/10197/goto:http:/www.ubn t.com/products/bulletm.php Read More http://e2ma.net/go/2226372211/2026197/75867814/10197/goto:http:/www.ubn t.com/forum/ Discuss Introducting AirOS V
Re: [WISPA] 802.11 CPE's
OH. Yeah.. the APs based on the CPEs are NOT to be used for more than 15-20 clients. I have NO experience with their linux based APs. ryan On Jul 20, 2009, at 5:23 PM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Thry make great CPE's, I have about 350 in the air, don't like their AP's at all though, am using Star or MT for AP's and they are solid. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 1:57 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 802.11 CPE's One thing is for sure..Tranzeo is pretty solid once you get them in place. On 7/19/09, D. Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com wrote: Tranzeo CPQ19? They are not bad... really! I have several hundred in the air. ryan On Jul 18, 2009, at 3:20 PM, Jason Wallace wrote: Everyone, Any recommendations on an FCC CERTIFIED 802.11 cpe that has a higher gain than Deliberant''s 15dbi? I really liked Deliberant's 19 dbi's but they are gone... Jason Integrity Internet WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT Hotmail email black hole
Can you give more detail as to what requirements were placed on you? With more details I might be able to help you. I was tier-4 at MSN/Hotmail/Passport for a bit. (these services are now called Live, or Bing, or whatever they call them this week!) ryan Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Hi All, Hotmail has put us on some kind of black list. Messages from my servers to anyone with a hotmail (or affiliate) address is being sent into oblivion. Contacting Hotmail has been nearly useless. They've simply told me to go join a special program that they have and that'll get my system ok'd again. Sorry, but I'm NOT giving them customer information or money in order to fix this. Does anyone know anyone that doesn't have his head up his wazzoo at that org? Anyone else been successful at getting off of the black list there? Thanks, marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] residential repeater site contract
My repeater contact is simple. If un-served-behind-the-big-rock-customer (USBTBR) wants service, they need to talk to their neighbor about it. If they establish some sort dialog, then the house-with-service-customer (HWSC) calls me to tell me it is OK. I find that this makes it a community/neighbor issue and really cuts down on you have been on my roof for a year with 3 customers, I want $5K a month rent now sorts of calls). I give a $5 per month discount to the HWSC for the first USBTBRr they repeat to. After the second USBTBR is using the repeater, the house-with-service customer is no longer billed. We usually don't even tell them we stopped billing them. They call us after a month or 4 and ask us why there have been no debits. Then we tell them. :) Because there is: a financial incentive (free or reduced cost service and See's Chocolate delivered by my daughter during the holidays), a broadband incentive (I usually put these people on my 5.8Ghz backbone), and a good neighbor incentive (some USBTBR have mowed the house-with-service-customer's lawns, baked pies etc) We often get house-with-service-customers giving us access to their backup generators, rebooting our equipment for us etc. Some things I have learned: 1. NEVER tell the USBTBR that the house-with-service-customer is getting free or reduced cost service. 2. If you PoE is inside the HWSC home, install some sort of female-female coupler in a weather resistant box at ground level so you can come onto the property for reboots without entering the house or climbing on the roof. 3. Never tell the USBTBR that this reboot device exists, but let the HWSC know it is there and let them tell the others if they wish. This reduces all of the neighbors coming across the lawn to reboot what they think is a bad repeater. The HWSC will generally let one or 2 trusted neighbors know the reboot thing is there. 4. Keep the roof traffic down to a minimum. Asphalt shingles begin to wear out after a while causing concern with residential owners. 5. Keep the truck traffic down to daylight hours and tell the HWSC that you won't even knock on their door and disturb them if you are just coming for a reboot or quick service call. Of course, a few of my HWSC DO want me to tell them I am there, and I do. 6. Establish with your USBTBRs FIRST OFF that they are behind a repeater that is there due to the good graces of the HWSC. Therefore, if service drops in the middle of the nigh, you are not going to wake someone up to do a reboot, nor are you going to risk getting shot running to that person's house to reboot the repeater. ryan Josh Luthman wrote: Thank you for sharing, Rick! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 9:22 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Attached...RickG On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 5:39 PM, sa...@jeffcosoho.com sa...@jeffcosoho.comwrote: Anyone have a contract they could share for this? Thanx Jim WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Looking for service on Tonganoxie Rd, Leavenworth, KS 66048
Looking for service in this area: http://maps.google.com/maps?q=2560+tonganoxie+rd+leavenworth,+ksie=UTF8split=0gl=usei=uvVASqz9JI_KsQOnrPyMCQll=39.236292,-94.978931spn=0.012199,0.019312t=hz=16iwloc=A Does anyone service this area outside of Leavenworth/Lansing? ryan WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Latest Tranzeo Firmware = Broken NAT ???
http://www.tranzeofaq.com/oct102008.html ryan Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Well I thought that it happened this way, I may be wrong, - Tranzeo didn't want to look at the problem and somebody on the list did some packet sniffing and the Tranzeo's were randomly sending a bunch of 0o0o0o0o0's and the Mikrotik didn't know how to interpret that so it dropped all the clients and started over. The random 0's was not supposed to be in the 802.11 spec and I think that Mikrotik did a work around that ignored them. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 1:10 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Latest Tranzeo Firmware = Broken NAT ??? Wasn't Tranzeo that diagnosed the disconnect problem? On 6/9/09, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote: Marlon, I would stongly advise against doing any firmware upgrades to 4.0.2 for the sake of your customers. We almost lost ours last year with the Tranzeo re-asocciation issues last time around Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 10:30 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Latest Tranzeo Firmware = Broken NAT ??? H, I've not upgraded many of the CPQ's to 4.0.2. I've not noticed what you're talking about. I tend to only update firmware when something's not working though, so I may not have noticed for a while. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 9:43 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Latest Tranzeo Firmware = Broken NAT ??? I thought I mentioned that all AP's are Mikrotik v3.15. I gave up on the Tranzeo AP's a LONG time ago Best decision I ever made. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 12:38 AM To: WISPA General List Cc: Brent Thrift Subject: Re: [WISPA] Latest Tranzeo Firmware = Broken NAT ??? Kurt, do yourself a favor and just drop the Tranzeo ap's. The 6000 and 6600 units that I use absolutely suck. The 4.0.2 firmware helped quite a bit with the lock up issues, but now the speeds suck. I've gotten rid of almost all of them in favor of MT APs. Life is soo good now! It wouldn't be so bad if the factory didn't try to dodge these problems. If they can't duplicate the issue send someone out to those of us that can! This run around crap is costing far more money than anyone seems to believe. There's no way I'm gonna even try a Tranzeo 3650 product or anything else that requires that I rely on them. Good luck. marlon - Original Message - From: Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 9:27 PM Subject: [WISPA] Latest Tranzeo Firmware = Broken NAT ??? All was running fine on our CPE's running version 3.6.7 and did the upgrade to version 4.0.2. Now every CPE that is running in router mode doing NAT will randomly not pass new traffic. Example: running a constant ping to the AP all of the sudden will start dropping pings. But the funny thing is that if you are doing a download the download will not be interrupted at all. Try to check email or bring up a new page and nothing. After a while the pings will start replying and then normal surfing will resume. This problem took forever to diagnose and finally narrowed it down to the new 4.0.2 Tranzeo firmware running on CPQ's and SL2's only while doing NAT. The temporary fix for clients that have noticed the problem is to set the Tranzeo back up into bridge mode. Once in bridge mode all problems go away. All access points are Mikrotik based running 3.15 firmware. This problem does not happen on a Mikrotik based CPE doing NAT. Been emailing Tranzeo tech support for over a week and they are again playing the blame game and pointing the finger at Mikrotik telling me that Mikrotik doesn't do double NAT even though double NAT has been working fine for the past 5 years until now. Running NAT on the CPE side and then on the core router. Can anyone else verify this as Tranzeo claims that they can not reproduce in the lab. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com
Re: [WISPA] Latest Tranzeo Firmware = Broken NAT ???
Kevin Lamothe wrote: We've had other issues with the latest firmware, we mostly use Cisco APs, after a fw 4.0.2 radio associates, it will take anywhere from 2-10 minutes before the radio can pass any traffic, this issue wasn't present in 3.6.7. Their new management VLAN tagging feature only works with Tranzeo APs, it will ignore any tagged VLANS packets from Cisco or StarOS APs I never got anywhere with tech support and they ended up just closing the ticket. Do you have a ticket number? ryan Kurt Fankhauser wrote: I thought I mentioned that all AP's are Mikrotik v3.15. I gave up on the Tranzeo AP's a LONG time ago Best decision I ever made. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 12:38 AM To: WISPA General List Cc: Brent Thrift Subject: Re: [WISPA] Latest Tranzeo Firmware = Broken NAT ??? Kurt, do yourself a favor and just drop the Tranzeo ap's. The 6000 and 6600 units that I use absolutely suck. The 4.0.2 firmware helped quite a bit with the lock up issues, but now the speeds suck. I've gotten rid of almost all of them in favor of MT APs. Life is soo good now! It wouldn't be so bad if the factory didn't try to dodge these problems. If they can't duplicate the issue send someone out to those of us that can! This run around crap is costing far more money than anyone seems to believe. There's no way I'm gonna even try a Tranzeo 3650 product or anything else that requires that I rely on them. Good luck. marlon - Original Message - From: Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 9:27 PM Subject: [WISPA] Latest Tranzeo Firmware = Broken NAT ??? All was running fine on our CPE's running version 3.6.7 and did the upgrade to version 4.0.2. Now every CPE that is running in router mode doing NAT will randomly not pass new traffic. Example: running a constant ping to the AP all of the sudden will start dropping pings. But the funny thing is that if you are doing a download the download will not be interrupted at all. Try to check email or bring up a new page and nothing. After a while the pings will start replying and then normal surfing will resume. This problem took forever to diagnose and finally narrowed it down to the new 4.0.2 Tranzeo firmware running on CPQ's and SL2's only while doing NAT. The temporary fix for clients that have noticed the problem is to set the Tranzeo back up into bridge mode. Once in bridge mode all problems go away. All access points are Mikrotik based running 3.15 firmware. This problem does not happen on a Mikrotik based CPE doing NAT. Been emailing Tranzeo tech support for over a week and they are again playing the blame game and pointing the finger at Mikrotik telling me that Mikrotik doesn't do double NAT even though double NAT has been working fine for the past 5 years until now. Running NAT on the CPE side and then on the core router. Can anyone else verify this as Tranzeo claims that they can not reproduce in the lab. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com ss/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Latest Tranzeo Firmware = Broken NAT ???
Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Tranzeo informed me yesterday that they will not support Mikrotik related problems. Dude, I have this network problem, on my network, and because you are on this list, I want you to fix it for me... at your cost. OH! and it requires replacing a tower, please pay for the Time, materials and labor to do this. OH! and I am your direct competitor. THEN, after you fix MY problem on YOUR dime/time, I'll put out a press release that says that you were not doing things right in the first place and it was your fault. Really, do you expect Tranzeo to set aside some engineering types to this issue, then send Mtik the solution so they can fix the problem and then they slap them in the face with What's new in 3.15: added workaround for non-standards compliant CPE with timestamp issue HA! This is funny because back in the Tranzeo/MT disconnect days of last summer wasn't the problem traced to Tranzeo firmware not following 802.11 spec? And tranzeo still wouldn't fix it so Mikrotik jumped in and saved us all from Tranzeo's problem Not so fast! :) We (Tranzeo and I, mostly Damian) opened a ticket with Mtik (Ticket#2008091666000531): Tranzeo laid out a packet sniff from Network Instruments Wireless Observer along with my wireshark packet sniff showing in brief that the Mtik AP was throwing out random zeros in it's beacon frame timestamp. They stated that when a zero is recieved, the CPE are to assume that there is a change in the settings of the wireless AP and they should disconnect and reaquire. (think of this as an INSTANT change from 802.11b to 802.11b/g and all your clients disconnect and reconnect, because, well, there is a change in the AP's capabilities. This is reasonable reaction to a notification of a change of settings. Mtik replied with IEEE Std 802.11-2007 section 11.1.1.1 (located here if you have trouble sleeping: (http://standards.ieee.org/getieee802/download/802.11-2007.pdf *YAWN* let me tell you, this explains why wireless engineers are who they are.. whoa!) Mtik continued and said that the wording of this standard allowed for a timestamp of zero sent from the AP and basically the CPE should deal with it and play through. Damian learned some Latvian so he could swear in a diffrent language than Canadian. Honestly, he likes to be legal in APs etc and just cannot see why us ULS users would flaunt the FCC _and_ put up with these Mtik bugs. I mentioned something under my breath regarding CPQs and firware updates about 3 years ago... The nice gentleman engineer at Tranzeo placed some virtual CPE on a bench facing a Mtik AP and was able to reproduce the issue. He then released to me some very alpha firmware that would email him with a warning whenever a CPQ saw a zero frame. This alpha software would also IGNORE this frame and keep on trucking. This alpha firmware was given with the stern warning that if I changed ANYTHING on the AP I would have to really recycle it to make all the CPE realize there was a change. This poor engineer was probably overwhelmed when I installed this firmware on 110 CPQs in about an hour. I watched the log file generated by these emails and the events had to be happening in the hundreds per hour. Mtik was silent so I poked Uldis a bit with a comment about silence from Latvia and no National holidays I could see along with: While there is no specific _requirement_ to treat Zero as a reset, _most_ wireless CPE (including yours!) consider this to be a flag to reset. If you don't then when the card is reset, the client will ignore all of the changes until the time stamp the last one. This is the same as driving on the right side of the road. There is no _LAW_ saying you should do so, but you do because everyone else does! Perhaps there is a reason to drive on the left but not in this case! :) I even showed Mtik support that even THIER Mtik brand CPE were disconnecting in some instances! Mtik replied with a bit of beta software that seems to have helped. It is posted to the forum and only need be installed on APs. (remember CPE don't give out timestamps) This is the second or third iteration of this software. After this is all said and done who
Re: [WISPA] Latest Tranzeo Firmware = Broken NAT ???
Why you would route AT the AP boggles my mind... Routing Before the AP is the way to go. Why add additional load on an AP when it should be working on sending and receiving wireless data. ryan Rick Kunze wrote: I've got about 50 or 60 CPQ's and SL2's out there, as well as a dozen or so 6000's, some for up to 4 or 5 years. I've never had a single problem with any of them failing to pass traffic as mentioned in the thread. I just upgraded one small town to 4.0.2, a couple 6000's and a couple dozen CPE's in router/NAT mode. No calls from any customers . . . everything seems normal. IMO, the Tranzeo stuff has been fine. All AP's however are bridged in my case. Rk WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Latest Tranzeo Firmware = Broken NAT ???
Right! At every location is GREAT! but if you have 3 APs at the top of a tower, you don't route on each AP, you route at the bottom of the tower right? ryan Mike Hammett wrote: I route at every device. ;-) Well, at least at every location. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: D. Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 1:38 PM To: rku...@colusanet.com; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Latest Tranzeo Firmware = Broken NAT ??? Why you would route AT the AP boggles my mind... Routing Before the AP is the way to go. Why add additional load on an AP when it should be working on sending and receiving wireless data. ryan Rick Kunze wrote: I've got about 50 or 60 CPQ's and SL2's out there, as well as a dozen or so 6000's, some for up to 4 or 5 years. I've never had a single problem with any of them failing to pass traffic as mentioned in the thread. I just upgraded one small town to 4.0.2, a couple 6000's and a couple dozen CPE's in router/NAT mode. No calls from any customers . . . everything seems normal. IMO, the Tranzeo stuff has been fine. All AP's however are bridged in my case. Rk WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Latest Tranzeo Firmware = Broken NAT ???
Do you have any ethreal data you can share? ryan Steve Smith wrote: In our case we are using staros APs. We like to have the CPE set to router mode so we don't have to deal with any of the client equipment on their side of our unit at their place. That way we don't care if they change out a piece of equipment. We are having no problem with any Tranzeo equipment that is set to bridge mode. We love the Tranzeo CPQs. Our problems are when the CPQs are in router mode. There is a definite problem that we can replicate 100% of the time. We have eliminated all of the causes of the problem with the exception of the Tranzeo CPQ. All units have 4.0.2 and we do not believe the problem is with an upgrade in the firmware because we can replicate the problem in version 3.6.7 as well. I just moved one client today that was in router mode back to bridge mode because they couldn't do their UPS shipping until we did. Apparently, we may need to move all of them to bridge mode but with hundreds of units out there I really don't like that idea. steve D. Ryan Spott wrote: Why you would route AT the AP boggles my mind... Routing Before the AP is the way to go. Why add additional load on an AP when it should be working on sending and receiving wireless data. ryan Rick Kunze wrote: I've got about 50 or 60 CPQ's and SL2's out there, as well as a dozen or so 6000's, some for up to 4 or 5 years. I've never had a single problem with any of them failing to pass traffic as mentioned in the thread. I just upgraded one small town to 4.0.2, a couple 6000's and a couple dozen CPE's in router/NAT mode. No calls from any customers . . . everything seems normal. IMO, the Tranzeo stuff has been fine. All AP's however are bridged in my case. Rk WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Steve Smith, Chase 3000, PO Box 760, 554 Kramer St., Imperial, NE 69033, 308 882 3000 office, 308 883 3001 cell WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Electronic Signatures
I think in most states paying the bill obligates you to the terms of service/contract. ryan Charles Wyble wrote: Ah. Gotcha. Thanks for clarifying. RickG wrote: Having an AUP is fine but it doesnt spell out the terms of a specific obligation between you the end user. The big carriers obligate you to two year contracts when you agree online so I'm assuming we can do the same. -RickG On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 11:22 PM, Charles Wyblechar...@thewybles.com wrote: The big carriers don't require a signature on a contract. They also don't do (free/near free) installs either. I don't know if there is a signed contract if you pay for an install. Yes I realize this is a very important differentiator that we can provide, however I don't feel a signed contract is necessary. An AUP is an excellent idea as a general rule, however if they are transiting bits on your network, you have the right and obligation to defend that network. If you don't, you risk other operators dropping traffic from your IP rnage /AS. Your free to enforce your AUP with impunity. Failure to do so is the sole reason that bits of evil reach our border routers. A few simple route filters, and spam/botnets would be stopped. Subscribe to the Don't Route Or Peer List from Spamhaus (http://www.spamhaus.org/drop/index.lasso), and monitor outbound traffic. *sighs* Martha Huizenga wrote: Exactly, we send the contract with the install and then get it back when the install is done. Works fine. Jason Hensley wrote: Wow. Seems like a waste of time and resources. If I mailed contracts like that here I'd lose half my install opportunities because they would never send the contract back. Send a contract with the installer, get them to sign it before they install, give one copy to customer, bring one back, done deal. If nothing else, get an electronic as an initial confirmation, then get an actual signature at install. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Reed Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 6:42 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Electronic Signatures We currently use a two-year contract for customers. Right now we gather the information, generate a contract, USMail it to the customer and wait for them to USMail it back after they sign it before we schedule an installation. We would like to reduce the time from initial contact to installation. One option we are looking at is electronic signature on the contract. We have done some research into doing this, but thought it would be good to get some other input. If you do electronic signatures, how do you do it? If you use a third party to certify the signatures, who do you use? What is good about them? What is not so good? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [WISP] 900 PtP
David Hulsebus wrote: Ryan, How do you like the Moonblink antennas? Eh, they are OK. Getting timely shipping and shipping information out of Moonblink makes ordering from them a head-ache for my ordering person. The antennas are sleek aluminum but they are fragile so you can't handle them much past one installation. I've been using Cushcraft for some time, they've worked very well. I've used the M2inc. but found rain to be an issue with the open round beam holding water. If I have line of sight I can get 8-10 miles out of a link, but never through many trees. I have two small 120 vertical sectors using Tranzeo and I wish we could get links that are as stable as the WaveRiders we have in place. I do use a 908.4 filter on the Tranzeos and reduced my noise floor from -75 to -95. They were designed for WaveRiders but work well for a 5MHz channel at 908 on the Tranzeos. I even tried the Mikrotik 900 and had even poorer luck with them. Ditch the Verticle sectors. They are noise vacuums. I am using a simple TR902-11 panel for my AP. When I use the sectors my noise floor gets so loud as to make the AP unusable. I won't say the WaveRiders were my best decision, but having tested Trango, Canopy first, it was the best for my environment at the time. I've still got 400 EUM3000-3005's in place across 15 sectors. We can get 1.2MB down and 800K up for about 30-35 clients. We added their new CCU8000 and a dozen clients so far on a new build out this year and expect to max out at 30-40 subs per AP and if they are like the CCU3000's will still give everyone 6 MB down and 4 MB up. We pay extremely high prices for the WaveRider EUM's which really hurts the ROI. Yeah, the waveriders. I think the only reason you have the CCU3000s is because of the competitive pressure of Tranzeo/UBNT handing out 802.11b/g type speeds over 900mhz. ryan Dave D. Ryan Spott wrote: http://www.tranzeofaq.com/images/lewis.jpg This is a 900Mhz Client running at 5Mhz on TR902 radios. The AP is a TR902-13 and the client is a TR902-N with a 15DB yagi from Moonblink wireless. /images/lewis.jpg ryan WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 3.65 Wimax
I agree. When you see wifi vendors with sub-$1000 APs in the 2.4 space and they suddenly want to sell yo basically the same tech (at a different freq range) for $1 there is a problem. Someone is cashing in on hype becase the RD CANNOT be that expensive when you take volume of CPE/AP sales into account. Seriously, FCC testing is around $6K for a complete radio, and the ASIC/opensource platform that makes up the signalling is close to free. MTIK/UBNT will place lots of pressure on the $$$ guys will use sales savvy (Alverion) to stay afloat or lower their price. ryan -Original Message- From: Travis Johnson t...@ida.net Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 8:17 PM To: sarn...@info-ed.com; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 Wimax The WiMax guys aren't interested in the WISP market... they are after the cell guys and big operators looking to place 5,000 and 10,000 CPE orders. Travis Microserv Scottie Arnett wrote: I will invite any 3.65 Mfg to let me test their gear in my environment. I have found nothing to work past 2 miles in the hills and trees of TN, except 900 Mhz Canopy. Scottie -- Original Message -- From: Mike Cowan mi...@wirelessconnections.net Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 07:24:53 -0400 It is true that a 802.11 based 3.650 product is not going to be any better than 2.4. A wimax based 3.650 product is going to gve field performance much like 2.4. A diversity based 3.650 system is going to provide coverage much like, and oftentimes exceeding that of 900Mhz. These observations are based on real field deployments in diverse terrain across the US. Mike Mike Cowan Wireless Connections A Division of ACC 166 Milan Ave Norwalk, OHÂ 44857 419-660-6100 419-706-7348 Cell 419-668-4077 Fax mi...@wirelessconnections.net www.wirelessconnections.net -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 1:33 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 Wimax Hi, We have two small 3.65 repeaters (serving only other small WiPOPs). The 3.65 does work, but our experience was that it did not do any better in NLOS than 2.4ghz would already do (when comparing the same type of radio systems). There are several other radio features and tricks that the higher-end WiMax companies are doing to get better NLOS, but it is still not comparable to 900mhz. In our area, there is a provider using 2.5ghz licensed WiMax and they still have NLOS issues where our 900mhz Trango system will work just fine. YMMV. Travis Microserv Jeremie Chism wrote: Several months ago I paid the small fee for the 365 license but have not used it. We are looking to deploy something that has a little less interference since there is quite a bit of 900mhz and 5.8ghz equipment deployed where we are. Has anyone tested any of this equipment and how has it worked. Also does it possess any NLOS capabilities (I know all the manufacturers claim they do). Thanks Jeremie Chism Triton Communications WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] Wireless High Speed Broadband service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $30.00/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com/wireless.html for information. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
