RE: [WISPA] High Gain 8186HP CPE
I have a stack of High-Gain CPEs that don't work. Just a FYI. We also waited a bit over a MONTH to get the first order. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 12:06 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] High Gain 8186HP CPE Has anyone used this before? I normally use MT units everywhere, but I figured that I could save my customers money when they want to repeat to other buildings of theirs. Instead of setting up a 5 GHz AP with N-Streme and 5 GHz N-Streme clients, I'm looking at moving to 802.11g for everything. Someone suggested to me the High Gain 8186HP CPE and it looks like a good deal. What sort of mounting options does it have (can't tell from the pictures)? Normally I put up a UM and U-bolt it on, but my customer would like a flat-mount solution. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] GMAIL
I was thinking it would look like newsgroups or something,g that has a little plus that drills down the replies etc. I have it working the way you have it. Still trying to get it to capture EVERYTHING from WISPA. .etc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zack Kneisley Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 1:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] GMAIL It does. It's very nice for lists.. actually the best I have ever used. The 2853MB of space doesn't hurt either. I'm not sure how to get it to work that way, but it does it for me Zack On 5/17/07, Dennis Burgess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wondering, I saw a post where someone said that the GMAIL service has the ability to show messages by the topic (subject), anyone wish to enlightn me! -- Dennis Burgess, MCP, CCNA, A+, N+, Mikrotik Certified Consultant www.mikrotikconsulting.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] EVDO vs Wireless
I am seeing pings times from 30-80, sometimes higher, up to 500, but average is right around 100ms. 1500k down is average, with about 100-200k up, sometimes more. Really depends what area you are in. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erik Jansson Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 10:05 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] EVDO vs Wireless I recently heard that on of the local cell providers is upgrading from x1 to EVDO. My question is for those of you who have EVDO in you area what if any impact it has had, what speeds are being delivered and what is the cost structure like. Thanks for the feed back Erik -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] EVDO vs Wireless
Lol. I have started that converstation, however, so for no clear cut answer, I think they may be like clearwire or whatever that cable co was that started to dump their top 1% users. Lol. Dennis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 10:30 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] EVDO vs Wireless And if so, Is that per day, week, month or year? 1.5mbit/s maxed for a month is a little shy of 475GB/mo. On 5/14/07, JohnnyO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would 50gb worth of traffic be allowed via EDVO ? :) JohnnyO - Original Message - From: Dennis Burgess - 2K Wireless [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 10:12 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] EVDO vs Wireless I am seeing pings times from 30-80, sometimes higher, up to 500, but average is right around 100ms. 1500k down is average, with about 100-200k up, sometimes more. Really depends what area you are in. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erik Jansson Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 10:05 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] EVDO vs Wireless I recently heard that on of the local cell providers is upgrading from x1 to EVDO. My question is for those of you who have EVDO in you area what if any impact it has had, what speeds are being delivered and what is the cost structure like. Thanks for the feed back Erik -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Try it out vs. Cingular
I have been looking into wholeselling these cards with the routers bundled together. Mostly for customers who are outside of my converage area. Will let you know more about it, specifically sprint is running EDVO RevA, cards get a good 1.5 meg down, latency to the first hop varies, from 40ms to about 500ms. Avg though with nothing else running is about 40-80ms. Dennis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John J. Thomas Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 11:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Try it out vs. Cingular Sprint EVDO is $59-79 per month, and there are hardware routers that accept the card. John -Original Message- From: Pete Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 05:09 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Try it out vs. Cingular The $10/mo for web access with Sprint ONLY applies to the use on the phone. When you plug in the data cable, and use it as a modem, its like $0.30/kb. Learning that lesson cost me. The unlimited phone-as-a-modem or data card rate is around $39/mo. Does anyone know if there are drivers/capabilities to link a data card to a Mikrotik or StarOS box? I guess that there are other Linux drivers out there, so my thinking may work. I have considered for some time the possibilities of making a box to mount in my car (car-puter) with a Sprint (or Cingular, or Verizon, or whoever) cellular type data connection, with a WIFI client as the primary (or secondary) mode of connection. With DDNS, access to the dash mounted camera, GPS stream, etc should be easy enough, making it a roll-your-own LowJack type system. Also, in the car, an ethernet jack to plug a laptop into could be nice, as well as opening the possibilities to put in an ATA to make VOIP calls, as well as adding a WIFI AP. $39/mo for unlimited data connectivity, especially if it gives the speed/latency required to do VOIP, seems like a bargain compared to $129/mo for 2000 minutes. I guess a Windows-based system could do all of those things, but the RAM/processor/etc/boot time/bluescreens associated with Windoze don't seem to make it conducive to this type of project, IMO. The car-puter installation plan things that I have read about seem to focus on GPS and MP3 playing. Since my wreck 6 yrs ago, where I couldn't prove to the insurance company (5 eyewitnesses from every direction from the intersection and a police report weren't good enough) that I had the green light. I have been thinking about a car-mounted DVR with cameras in the grill, the dash, and in the back to offer video defense in a car accident claim. Showing the judge, the insurance agent, or whoever a DVD of the video surveillance of the accident could save a lot of time and hassle. What I wish someone would sell for a car (these things probably all exist in one form or another with various systems) is a computer that will act as a: DVR security cam recorder (cam pointed at the driver seat to prosecute the car thief, + cams on bumpers to witness accidents) Data port (ethernet + WIFI AP) Web server (with DDNS support to access the stored data, even when the car is away from the house, like at an impound yard or after being stolen) MP3 player Realtime ODBII scanning/recording/diagnostics of the car. VOIP system. GPS stream recording. (to show he teenage driver when/how fast she was really driving) I would think that these things could all be incorporated for under $2k, mounted in the trunk, and it would be something that would sell like crazy for $3k installed. I guess what I would like is a retail version of this with more features: http://www.popsci.com/popsci/how20/d04305f2dbbf1110vgnvcm104eecbccdrcrd .html pd Rich Comroe wrote: What a rip! Sprint told me it's only $300-400 to get out of a Sprint contract. What's it cost to early terminate a Cingular contract? Why doesn't he just terminate? Getting a $1200 monthly bill is ridiculous! UNLIMITED data to a Sprint windows phone is only about $10/month, and there's no way to limit it to not operate tethered to a computer (other than unreasonably large download usage). And it's EVDO, so it blows away that measley 125 - 175 kbit. I really think those PCMCIA cards are a rip-off for service cost compared to just getting unlimited data service to your cellphone. I love ppc6700 windows phones ... a lot lighter and smaller than a laptop yet nearly as capable. Rich - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 8:08 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Try it out vs. Cingular oh, I'm most certainly under $1200, even for a whole year. :-p Anyone have experience getting out of a bad Cingular deal? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Scott Reed [EMAIL
RE: [WISPA] Mikrotik PC
Mark, Just build yourself a 1gig VIA PC. Simple, easy, or grab yourself something faster, such as a standard HP PC etc, The simplest thing would be to grab a 64meg IDE Flash card with MT loaded, else, you can load it up on a HD if you wish! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 11:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Mikrotik PC I need more horsepower at one router site. It's got a MT RB532 (233MHz/32MB) and it is pegging at 100% at times, mostly in the 85% range, though. The location has a 19 rack (only about 18 deep, though). Need 8 FastEthernet ports. No wireless. Want to user Mikrotik RouterOS. Can anyone recommend a box for this? Thanks. Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Mikrotik PC
What really comes down to this is the thoughput, 20 meg is about max on the 532s with the 266 processors. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 12:59 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik PC This is my main distribution point, 1 wireless hop away from my main POP. 270 wireless units all in bridge mode + customer PC/Router routing through it. All 8 ethernet ports are routing, not using bridging. Using RIP between MT routers across wireless links at remote WiPOPs. Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Robert Norris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 10:47 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Mikrotik PC What are you doing with the RB532 to make it load so much? Possible to use a PC with 512 to 1 gig ram, 3.0 cpu, 2 MT RB44 ethernet boards (this would give you 8 etherports) and Mikrotik OS level 5 or 6. Does it have to be a rack mount? Or can you mount it on a shelf installed in the rack. A mini case would fit in that space. Mine is working great with a hundred + customers, it's got a 3.0 intel cpu on an asus motherboard, 512 ram, mini tower case, with 1 RB44 4 port nic card, running QOS, Firewall rules, and everything else to go with routing. No hard drive, has cd rom and the only moving part is case fan and cpu fan. Robert -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 11:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Mikrotik PC I need more horsepower at one router site. It's got a MT RB532 (233MHz/32MB) and it is pegging at 100% at times, mostly in the 85% range, though. The location has a 19 rack (only about 18 deep, though). Need 8 FastEthernet ports. No wireless. Want to user Mikrotik RouterOS. Can anyone recommend a box for this? Thanks. Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Mikrotik PC
Been looking at these myself :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JohnnyO Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 2:14 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik PC What does pricing look like for them ? JohnnyO - Original Message - From: Mark Nash [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 1:54 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik PC Hey, Gino... Have you successfully deployed RouterOS on one of these Axiomtek appliances? Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Gino Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 7:53 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Mikrotik PC Takea look at this: http://www.axiomtek.com/products/ViewProduct.asp?view=182 Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 12:42 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Mikrotik PC I need more horsepower at one router site. It's got a MT RB532 (233MHz/32MB) and it is pegging at 100% at times, mostly in the 85% range, though. The location has a 19 rack (only about 18 deep, though). Need 8 FastEthernet ports. No wireless. Want to user Mikrotik RouterOS. Can anyone recommend a box for this? Thanks. Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Hotspot setup
Lol ;) bingo! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of CHUCK PROFITO Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 10:53 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Hotspot setup I don't know. But since 98 is no longer supported sell them an xp pro upgrade. Then it will work. And you'll make some money. Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J. Vogel Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 8:24 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot setup Does that work on Win98? John Vogel CHUCK PROFITO wrote: Why knock your self out, use the two finger lock, windows key and L Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J. Vogel Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 1:41 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Hotspot setup Is it possible to use MT Hotspot feature with clients that already have a public static IP address? I have a client that wants to be able to turn off their Internet Access when not being used.. they have a couple of computers in their office that unauthorized people may have access to when they step out of the office for a minute or two, and want to prevent those unauthorized people from using the computer(s) to access the internet. The set up is like this... client computers connected to a D-Link router, NAT/DHCP addressing. The D-Link has a static public IP on the WAN side. The D-Link accesses the Internet through a Tranzeo CPE configured in bridge mode, which is associated to the MT Access point. It is at this point that I would like to configure the hotspot, but only for this one client. Further info... The MT AP is also acting as a transparent bridge, receiving traffic on the AP side, and sending it to the network Gateway out ether1 (which goes through two more transparent bridges before it gets to the GW). The MT that is acting as AP for this client is on OS 2.9.35 The MT AP currently has a private IP address. I could put a public IP on it and switch it to a routed segment at some point, but would rather not have to do that before setting this hotspot up for this client if that is at all possible. My thoughts are that it would be great to intercept traffic coming from the customer's public IP and direct it to the hotspot's walled garden until they provide a username and password, the enable access until they either log out or are inactive for a given number of minutes, or possible after a maximum length of time. I know that I can use the MT to direct traffic to a walled garden manually (I have used it like that to manually disable a customer's access) but would like to use it with the client login/logout feature. If someone has some pointers, or is willing to help me set this up, I would greatly appreciate any help. John Vogel -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] ping
Ding dong! :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 4:54 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ping Ding. Ding Lol Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Dennis Burgess - 2K Wireless [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 16:17:44 To:'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: RE: [WISPA] ping Lol. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 3:28 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ping YAY! - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Dennis Burgess - 2K Wireless [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 11:28 AM Subject: [WISPA] ping -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Hotspot setup
Well, The issue you have with the hotspot, is that they will need to login and then still, logout of the hotspot to remove access. Even if you do a timeout, something like they have to login every 10 min, it will still allow some access. Make sense. As Mac said, you could use PPPoE, to prevent access, but again, they will have to disconnect when they don't want the internet access. If the workstation can handle it, it would be faster for the end user, to just lock the computer. As far as 98, no you can't lock it, maybe a third party software would be simple enough, or even better yet, set a screen saver password, then grab a freeware utility to start the screen saver. Not the best thing in the universe, but will work quite well. Dennis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J. Vogel Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 8:52 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot setup I do appreciate that Dennis and Chuck have both taken the time and effort to respond, but unfortunately - I still don't have an answer to the original question. Is there a way to set the MT HotSpot feature to handle logons for a customer who desires to be able to disable internet access from their location when that customer's router already has a static public IP address. For a variety of reasons, I would like to be able to accomplish this rather than tell the customer such a thing is not possible, or that they need to buy new computers, or that they should not let their kids use the computers to play games on because they cannot guarantee that the kids will not access the internet when they were not supposed to, or. Refer to my original post for more information, or contact me directly if you think such a thing can be done or even if you think it cannot be done. Thanks! John Vogel Dennis Burgess - 2K Wireless wrote: Lol ;) bingo! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of CHUCK PROFITO Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 10:53 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Hotspot setup I don't know. But since 98 is no longer supported sell them an xp pro upgrade. Then it will work. And you'll make some money. Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J. Vogel Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 8:24 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot setup Does that work on Win98? John Vogel CHUCK PROFITO wrote: Why knock your self out, use the two finger lock, windows key and L Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J. Vogel Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 1:41 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Hotspot setup Is it possible to use MT Hotspot feature with clients that already have a public static IP address? I have a client that wants to be able to turn off their Internet Access when not being used.. they have a couple of computers in their office that unauthorized people may have access to when they step out of the office for a minute or two, and want to prevent those unauthorized people from using the computer(s) to access the internet. The set up is like this... client computers connected to a D-Link router, NAT/DHCP addressing. The D-Link has a static public IP on the WAN side. The D-Link accesses the Internet through a Tranzeo CPE configured in bridge mode, which is associated to the MT Access point. It is at this point that I would like to configure the hotspot, but only for this one client. Further info... The MT AP is also acting as a transparent bridge, receiving traffic on the AP side, and sending it to the network Gateway out ether1 (which goes through two more transparent bridges before it gets to the GW). The MT that is acting as AP for this client is on OS 2.9.35 The MT AP currently has a private IP address. I could put a public IP on it and switch it to a routed segment at some point, but would rather not have to do that before setting this hotspot up for this client if that is at all possible. My thoughts are that it would be great to intercept traffic coming from the customer's public IP and direct it to the hotspot's walled garden until they provide a username and password, the enable access until they either log out or are inactive for a given number of minutes, or possible after a maximum length of time. I know that I can use the MT to direct traffic to a walled garden manually (I have used it like that to manually disable a customer's access) but would like to use it with the client login/logout feature. If someone has
RE: [WISPA] MUM - who is going?
I'm not involved with WISPA yet, but I am going and presenting. Dennis Burgess www.mikoritkconsultant.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mac Dearman Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 1:07 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] MUM - who is going? I thought I would ask here and see who all is registered or is planning to attend MUM (Orlando, Fl) May 31 - June 1st? John (Tully) mentioned something to me about WISPA having access to a room free of charge - does anyone know anything about this or if we will attempt to have a (beer) meeting there? I am about to make reservations as I just managed to clear my schedule :-) Thanks, Mac -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] MUM - who is going?
Works don't it! :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Russ Kreigh Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 2:03 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] MUM - who is going? http://www.mikrotikconsultant.com ;-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess - 2K Wireless Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 2:36 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] MUM - who is going? I'm not involved with WISPA yet, but I am going and presenting. Dennis Burgess www.mikoritkconsultant.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mac Dearman Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 1:07 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] MUM - who is going? I thought I would ask here and see who all is registered or is planning to attend MUM (Orlando, Fl) May 31 - June 1st? John (Tully) mentioned something to me about WISPA having access to a room free of charge - does anyone know anything about this or if we will attempt to have a (beer) meeting there? I am about to make reservations as I just managed to clear my schedule :-) Thanks, Mac -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] ping
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RE: [WISPA] Fort Knox firewall
Lol -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Smith, Rick Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 9:57 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Fort Knox firewall A little off topic, but I wonder what the FBI would say to seeing a CALEA dump of your google session +fort +knox +firewall lol. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dylan Bouterse Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 10:40 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Fort Knox firewall We have a local LEA that has an old Fort Knox firewall and had to reset to factory defaults but now cannot gain access to the box. I've tried googling the password but have not come up with anything. Does anybody out there know what the default access is to a Fort Knox 3000 firewall? -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] ping
Lol. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 3:28 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ping YAY! - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Dennis Burgess - 2K Wireless [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 11:28 AM Subject: [WISPA] ping -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Unlimited bandwidth does not mean unlimited
http://www.boston.com/business/personaltech/articles/2007/03/12/not_so_fast_ broadband_providers_tell_big_users/ Per some of the discussions that we have had on here, here is something that came across my desktop today. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Mikrotik long pings
Do a reset on the radio, reconfigure with IP only on Ethernet, see if you get the same thing, if so, issues with cat5... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Justin Wilson Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 8:20 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Mikrotik long pings We just put up a mikrotik 532 with an sr2 card. This is an AP with the ethernet and sr2 bridged. At the bottom of the tower is actual mikrotik router doing routing, dhcp, etc. I have customers associated to the Ap which works fine. If I plug into the ethernet at the bottom of the Ap I get weird pings. What I mean is this: If I ping a customer whos is associated via wireless they are 4-10ms average. If I ping the AP itself pings will jump up to 400ms dependent on how much traffic is going through. When the ap goes to 400ms pings the customers stay the same (4-10ms). Any ideas why this is happening? It does not matter where I bind the ip on the Ap. Pings are still weird.I am not too worried because customers are getting their speed and their pings are great. Thanks in advance, Justin -- Life is unfair, but root password Helps --- Justin S. Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] CCNA - A+ - CCNT - TAT - ACSA - COMTRAIN MTIN.NET Wireless - WISP Consulting - Tower Climbing AOLIM: j2sw WEB: http://www.mtin.net Phone: 765.762.2851 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] School wants authentication
Can also drop the Aps on to a different VLAN, give out different Ips from your hotspot too if needed. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pete Davis Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 9:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] School wants authentication I think the Mikrotik hotspot would work well for you. The flexibility is nice. You can edit the HTML code. At one location, a hotel, the users click the link that would be normally for demo available, but it says I agree to terms and service The user/pw entries are hidden. The demo is set for 24 hrs, with re-allow login set to 1 second. At another location, I hid the password, and gave the users login names and blank passwords. This simplifies the login process, and the user's names are their last names. One login at a time. In this situation, you can use the standard user/pw in the school. Put in user/pw pairs of student ID number (or SS number) and the last name for the pw. If there are a LOT of students, a radius server would be logical. This gives the students the idea that their activity is logged, and their access is subject to revocation. This allows you to disable accounts for those who abuse the service. If you do this, you can leave the Access points all open with little risk for theft of service. pd John Scrivner wrote: I have a customer who is a high school. They have fiber run to switches in 10 buildings. All of those buildings are connected through one giant private class B via a DHCP server. We serve wireless to 100% of the campus, indoors and out, over this same network with several bridged APs (all certified and not exceeding any power rules - I promise). They would like authentication of users. I tried setting WPA2 with Radius Auth and created a mess. Every time the AP signal would hand off from one AP to another (which happens every couple of minutes or more often) the system would force re-authentication. It is a bit of a mess. Configuration of Windows XP for Radius Auth on WPA2 reminds me of the bad old days of having to tweak Trumpet Winsock or dealing with Windows Dial-up Adapter version 1.0. We had another issue with the APs just constantly forcing re-authentication via Radius. We have opted for WPA2 Passphrase to deliver AES encryption for now. This still leaves us with the authentication issue. They currently have a DHCP server with zero logging of users. People just connect and get an IP. It is a mess. I want to propose a better solution. I would like to see an authentication solution via a hotspot portal or equivalent which would force credentials be delivered by a user before any user has access to anything via wired or wireless network. Does anyone know a good way to do this? I have many ideas but I have never really done this and I would like to hear what others would propose to see if my ideas mesh or not. It is also good to see how others handle this type of situation. I am leaning to a Mikrotik hotspot gateway which I think will do it all. What say the rest of you? Scriv No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.6/709 - Release Date: 3/3/2007 08:12 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] strange mt issue
The machine might not be able to identify the card right, and screws it up upon access it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 1:09 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] strange mt issue Hi All, OK, this is really strange. Picked up a new MT ide drive card and 4 port nic card to use as a backup router. Put the unit in the pc and it stops at loading E. OK, bad unit. Took it back to Spokane and Bob K. put that unit into a machine he'd been working on. Even worse problem for him. Hm. So in goes another chip to make sure that it's not a puter problem. THAT one now won't work either. It had been one he'd already been using. Use a new machine, load up a new ide chip for me. I saw him do it. Take that one home, put it in the pc, same thing! Loading E. Put it into another machine, won't work there either. Hook up a hard drive to the port, that won't boot. 4 machines and 4 hard drives later i still don't have a config that works! Put that ide chip in any pc and it kills the ide port. What the $%# over? Anyone seen anything like this before? Bob tells me that nothing he puts in the machine that worked before I got there will work now either. Could that first machine of mine had some kind of bios virus that has now spread to all other boxes? The machine was my old mail server, a working pull used up till a few months ago. The next machine was my old mt router, a working pull sitting on the shelf for over a year (it had flaked out so I replaced the whole thing and tossed the chip). The next machine was my old web server (all three the same hardware bought at the same time as i recall). The last machine was an old windows server or something. Don't ever remember for sure. It has two scsi drives in it, that's the only thing that'll still boot. But only to the two scsi drives, nothing ide. Ideas thanks, marlon -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] strange mt issue
The example I am thinking of is back when they had loaders for HDs bigger than whatever size it was. Basically, the bios is INCORRECTLY identifying the sectors, etc, on the drive, and sure it works to start, but after it gets so far and the sectors or something is messed up, it basically trashes the data on the drive, cause it don't know how to read and write correctly. Just a hunch, maybe something like LBA mode, or something. Try to get the specs for the IDE drive, i.e. sectors, and all the other data, and put that in manually, see if it will pull up then. Dennis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 10:59 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] strange mt issue But why would that mess up the card? Especially when the machine had been used as an mt router before? And why would it then also be unable to work with any other drives installed? marlon - Original Message - From: Dennis Burgess - 2K Wireless [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 7:30 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] strange mt issue The machine might not be able to identify the card right, and screws it up upon access it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 1:09 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] strange mt issue Hi All, OK, this is really strange. Picked up a new MT ide drive card and 4 port nic card to use as a backup router. Put the unit in the pc and it stops at loading E. OK, bad unit. Took it back to Spokane and Bob K. put that unit into a machine he'd been working on. Even worse problem for him. Hm. So in goes another chip to make sure that it's not a puter problem. THAT one now won't work either. It had been one he'd already been using. Use a new machine, load up a new ide chip for me. I saw him do it. Take that one home, put it in the pc, same thing! Loading E. Put it into another machine, won't work there either. Hook up a hard drive to the port, that won't boot. 4 machines and 4 hard drives later i still don't have a config that works! Put that ide chip in any pc and it kills the ide port. What the $%# over? Anyone seen anything like this before? Bob tells me that nothing he puts in the machine that worked before I got there will work now either. Could that first machine of mine had some kind of bios virus that has now spread to all other boxes? The machine was my old mail server, a working pull used up till a few months ago. The next machine was my old mt router, a working pull sitting on the shelf for over a year (it had flaked out so I replaced the whole thing and tossed the chip). The next machine was my old web server (all three the same hardware bought at the same time as i recall). The last machine was an old windows server or something. Don't ever remember for sure. It has two scsi drives in it, that's the only thing that'll still boot. But only to the two scsi drives, nothing ide. Ideas thanks, marlon -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Widespread abuse of FCC rules, a list...was TV whitespaces
people spend time trying to predict, rather than just going and finsing out what the situation really is. No better way to know for sure, than to put up gear and listen. Now what about support Local WISP, already has paid executives and local isntallers. Local WISP already has support department. Sure local WISP will want grant to help increase his staff size to handle demand, but thats an understandable cost, and a shared cost. The biggest costs are the learning curve and the management costs, but none of that would need to be paid, as the WISP already has that knowledge and experience, and peices in place, so the local governement would only be paying for just the new working staff (The hands on the end of the arms). Sure, I understand, my approach is not realistic based on the Politicaly correct proceedures a governement needs to follow in an award/bid situation using others(taxpayers) money. Sure you could argue that those that do not plan in advance pay for it later. But its likely a local WISP already did the bulk of the planning years ago. I'm just saying that its IRONIC that a network can be built for near the price of a feasibilty study, if the politics was not involved. The truth is, Muni Wireless is expensive to launch, because they generally duplicate the effort that is already available locally, select an out of state provider not familiar with the local land, and they have unknowlegeable people needing to make decission on how to use knowledgeable industry bidders. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Jack Unger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 12:16 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Widespread abuse of FCC rules, a list...was TV whitespaces Tom, I'm just wondering who should perform the necessary feasibility study for free? jack Tom DeReggi wrote: I wouldn't bypass the feasibility study, just the $90,000 to perform it. The feasibility study may also be to see who is already there and what impact it would have on existing providers. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Dennis Burgess - 2K Wireless [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 2:11 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Widespread abuse of FCC rules, a list...was TV whitespaces Interesting thread, very good points on all fronts. I wanted to point out something, something that the guy who was talking about consultants etc. You are correct in that many people who are consultants don't know the real world implications. Us WISPs have first hand knowledge of what these things will do, what the bands, hardware, etc is capable of. A recent study was commissioned in St. Louis. This was a feasibility study that netted some consultant over $90,000 bucks from the way I read it. What was this for? To see if the city of St. Louis can put in a wireless network covering downtown. H. My first thought on this was So the consultant needs to conduct a study on IF you can do this? Does he not know what he is doing? I can tell you I can do it, might take me a bit to do the necessary research, but hell for that price, I will do the research, finding bandwidth, contracts, and power/data agreements. This is the kind of thing that us, using license exempt bands nee to fight. We need to make it public, that this is a misuse of taxpayer's dollars. We need to ensure that this is shown to cut out the small business, in favor of large, non-local companies doing the work. A few other things that would help us WISPs out, someone in the FCC ready to listen to our findings of non-complaint gear/overpowered radios, someone that can actually say, you get me these things, the proof to say, and then we will do something with it. Don't happen very often. If someone calls the FCC, how many times have you heard anything back on them? I have heard interference stories, even from cell companies, (recent on the lists). The story about the IT Person telling the WISP to use 4.9, is a prime example of something that the FCC should be ON THE BALL about. And also some clarification on band usages, power limits, etc, where several questions and things are open to interpretation, not closed down enough to be solid in court or anywhere. Just a few thoughts. Dennis earlier discussions pruned -- Jack Unger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Serving the License-Free Wireless Industry Since 1993 Author of the WISP Handbook - Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs True Vendor-Neutral WISP Consulting-Training-Troubleshooting Newsletters Downloadable from http://ask-wi.com/newsletters.html Phone (VoIP Over Broadband Wireless) 818-227-4220 www.ask-wi.com
RE: [WISPA] Another expert heard from.
If not mistaken, the proposed freq for wimax is in the 3gig range, with 2db more output than 2.4. So would wimax not have even more penetration issues? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dawn DiPietro Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 9:41 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Another expert heard from. All, I ran across this article and found it quite amusing. As quoted from the article; Newtowne Court public housing, chosen for its proximity to public buildings and its high percentage of school-age children, is already equipped with 20 to 30 antennae for WiFi, said Hart. Hart said the project is being stalled because the 20 to 30 antennae aren't strong enough. The next step for the city is to implement so-called WiMax, a stronger signal that will someday provide mobile wireless connectivity without a base station antenna. The technology today doesn't penetrate walls very well; leaves can even get in its way because it's a radio signal, said Hart. Right behind this technology is WiMax. Nobody's selling that yet but it's so close to taking over WiFi, it's holding up a lot of projects. Link to full article below; http://www.townonline.com/cambridge/homepage/8998949105128439806 Regards, Dawn DiPietro -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Widespread abuse of FCC rules, a list...was TV whitespaces
Interesting thread, very good points on all fronts. I wanted to point out something, something that the guy who was talking about consultants etc. You are correct in that many people who are consultants don't know the real world implications. Us WISPs have first hand knowledge of what these things will do, what the bands, hardware, etc is capable of. A recent study was commissioned in St. Louis. This was a feasibility study that netted some consultant over $90,000 bucks from the way I read it. What was this for? To see if the city of St. Louis can put in a wireless network covering downtown. H. My first thought on this was So the consultant needs to conduct a study on IF you can do this? Does he not know what he is doing? I can tell you I can do it, might take me a bit to do the necessary research, but hell for that price, I will do the research, finding bandwidth, contracts, and power/data agreements. This is the kind of thing that us, using license exempt bands nee to fight. We need to make it public, that this is a misuse of taxpayer's dollars. We need to ensure that this is shown to cut out the small business, in favor of large, non-local companies doing the work. A few other things that would help us WISPs out, someone in the FCC ready to listen to our findings of non-complaint gear/overpowered radios, someone that can actually say, you get me these things, the proof to say, and then we will do something with it. Don't happen very often. If someone calls the FCC, how many times have you heard anything back on them? I have heard interference stories, even from cell companies, (recent on the lists). The story about the IT Person telling the WISP to use 4.9, is a prime example of something that the FCC should be ON THE BALL about. And also some clarification on band usages, power limits, etc, where several questions and things are open to interpretation, not closed down enough to be solid in court or anywhere. Just a few thoughts. Dennis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 1:05 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Widespread abuse of FCC rules, a list...was TV whitespaces George, Thats a good point. WISPs are maturing and as they grow they start to demand name brand type gear that will let them scale, which inadvertently is usually certified. Thus larger providers using certified gear. With no disrespect meant, I could argue that some of WISP's straying to non-certified gear, could be more of a science project, or trials to test the viabilty of that type product line, and as those trials become successful, they likely will certify gear or buy versions that are certified. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 10:54 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Widespread abuse of FCC rules, a list...was TV whitespaces Well this was an exiting day on the lists. I would find it hard to believe that the wisp industry is in worse shape now than before concerning abuse. 5 years ago when most were new and choices were far and few between, there was a lot of pringles type wisps. Hey, they were the inovators. But it's hard to believe that with the advent of cheap gear from many new players, I'd have ahard time believing that the vast majority of wisp gear is an fcc certified system or kit type product, such as a star or mt. I think we're building a mountain out of a mole hill in even suggesting that this an issue that has to be delt with. The industry has matured in a very positive way over the past few years. George This is NOT an official wispa stance or position, just my own. Patrick Leary wrote: Here are few raw comments that might fray some nerves: 1. The FCC is not a baby sitter. 2. Mature operators (and industries as a whole) follow the rules as a matter of course and expected cost of business. 3. You are not the public, you are commercial operators financially benefiting off the public's free spectrum and you off all users should thus be a responsible steward of that spectrum. 4. Those not following the rules have no ethical standing to complain about other illegal use, predatory competitors, lack of spectrum, etc. As someone who has argued for WISP compliance for years, I've certainly been alarmed by what I see as a new level of non-compliance. WISPs are now commonly assuming the FCC's lack of enforcement is tantamount to its approval of abuse. The general attitude is now that there is but one rule: Don't exceed the power limitations. Everything else has become fair game. Here is a list of things I see that lend anecdotal evidence, if not actual, that abuse is reaching new levels: - many WISPs now believe it is no big deal to use 4.9 GHz
RE: [WISPA] OT: Small office VoIP phone systems
www.fonality.com .. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony Will Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 12:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Small office VoIP phone systems Allworx 6x can do that. You will need to get the software upgrade for sip gateway for the off site phones. This is a full featured PBX for a decent price. I believe it can handle 6 FXO's and has two FXS ports for fax and such. Anthony Will Broadband Corp. Ryan Spott wrote: Sorry to be off topic here folks, but I trust all but one of you. :) I am looking for a small office VoIP phone system. It needs to support at least 4 Analog (outside) phone lines and at least 16 or so SIP based phones. Most of the Phones will be on a LAN in the building with about 4 phones off-site. I was looking at the LInksys SPA9000 coupled with the SPA400 to do this but I am always leery of Linksys stuff. Can any of you lead me in the right direction? Off list is fine and I can put together some synopsis when I get everyones info. thanks! ryan -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Advanced Bandwidth Management
Mikrotik can do this. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 11:27 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Advanced Bandwidth Management List, Several times in the last few weeks the topic of bandwidth management has been discussed, but I Still Haven't Found What I'm Lookin' For... Here's what I'd like to do: 1. Each user starts with a big Internet Pipe. This way casual surfing and emails, etc. happen nice and snappy. 2. If a user downloads a big chunk of data, he needs to be shaped to a lower data rate after a few minutes (I'm thinking 2 or 3 minutes). 3. Step 2 repeats over and over several times if the user continues to download. 4. After the user quits hogging the network, his bandwidth is restored in stages (backwards of 2 and 3). I know this, or at least similar things to it, are being done out there. The HughesNet satellite FAP works something like this (I don't know the actual values): 1. Each user has a Bit Bucket that holds 1 Gig of bandwidth. 2. The Bit Bucket is replenished at 128k. 3. The speed at which the user can download from his bit bucket is 1meg. 4. If the user uses all the bits in his bucket faster than they are replenished, he eventually gets only 128k. Does anyone know how to get something like this going? I am especially interested in Linux/Ubuntu solutions. Jason -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Att explained
That was worth watching. The sad part is. ITS ALMOST ALL TRUE! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dawn DiPietro Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 10:07 AM To: isp-wireless@isp-wireless.com; WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Att explained All, Finally a clear understanding of the telecommunications industry. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bj1Mtv9cD0I Regards, Dawn DiPietro -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] IPsec/UDP and my border NAT gateway
In case someone ddi'ent say, if they are using CISCO IPSEC, etc, what happen is this. 1. Client requests via TCP to start a VPN session 2. Server sends back UDP packets to start the session 3. NAT/MASQ blocks these un-authed UDP packets. The two anaswers are. 1. Tell the customer to change their CISCO VPN client to TCP, works just as good. 2. Have the customer pay for a business account and a static IP. Those are my options for these customers, I have a number of them. Denni -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rabbtux rabbtux Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 1:45 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] IPsec/UDP and my border NAT gateway Anyone have suggestions on what I need to do to allow my customer to do this type of VPN. I currently have customers behind my linux/iptables firewall that masquerades them out a single IP. This is the first customer who is having problems. Do I need a special rule to accomodate them?? The customer is using CenterBeam VPN services, and they tell him that, your isp is blocking VPN pass thru. I'm not blocking anything. help! Thank you kindly, marshall -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] IPsec/UDP and my border NAT gateway
IPSEC uses the GRE, but also traverse UDP. CISCO VPN clints do use UDP, they use GRE to do the establishment sometimes as well.The Cisco VPN client is a pain, regardless, but there is a option for TCP connectivity. Dennis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frank Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 5:05 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] IPsec/UDP and my border NAT gateway A Standard Ipsec VPN will use GRE, protocol 47: http://www.iana.org/assignments/protocol-numbers It's not UDP. It appears that CenterBeam VPN uses Cisco gear: http://newsroom.cisco.com/dlls/prod_121201.html If this is the case, then they should be able to encapsulate this into UDP or IP and this should allow the client inside your network to connect. You may need to verify that your iptables rules are allowing any UDP traffic. The Cisco PIX firewalls and their VPN hardware support this type of encapsulation expressly for the purpose of passing through NAT gateways. If the VPN client is not configured for UDP or TCP then there is likely nothing you can do since GRE and NAT are not always friendly to each other. Verify that the Cisco Software VPN client on your customer's PC is set to encapsulate (tunnel) within UDP. You may need some diagnostic tools like a sniffer (ethereal.com) or use tcpdump within your Linux firewall. Also, logging dropped packets in your iptables firewall may also be of assistance. Thank you Frank Keeney Pasadena Networks, LLC Antennas, Cables and Equipment: http://www.wlanparts.com -Original Message- From: rabbtux rabbtux Anyone have suggestions on what I need to do to allow my customer to do this type of VPN. I currently have customers behind my linux/iptables firewall that masquerades them out a single IP. This is the first customer who is having problems. Do I need a special rule to accomodate them?? The customer is using CenterBeam VPN services, and they tell him that, your isp is blocking VPN pass thru. I'm not blocking anything. help! Thank you kindly, marshall -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] WISP covering Ash Grove, MO?
There is a co on the part-15 list. Craig House, of mowisp.com. I shot him the info. He has a number of towers in the area. :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blake Bowers Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 5:01 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISP covering Ash Grove, MO? Thanks Butch, but although I do have a tower there, I know of no one offering service. Wish I did! - Original Message - From: Butch Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 12:58 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISP covering Ash Grove, MO? On Tue, 9 Jan 2007, Dennis Burgess - 2K Wireless wrote: I have a customer for ya if there is one! Isn't this where Blake Bowers is located? I don't have contact info for him, but I think he may know someone over there. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] What's everyone using for Bandwidth Management?
MT -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 11:54 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] What's everyone using for Bandwidth Management? I've spent the past week working on getting my bandwidth management system up and running. I opted to go with PowerCode's product because it seemed to be so comprehensive, but the documentation is less than adequate and I spend a lot of time on the phone with their support staff trying to get some of the fundamental functions to work. With that said, I thought it would be worth finding out what everyone else is using. Thanks in advance, Jim -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] sales 101
Where are ya getting that? I may be intrested.. off-list please. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mac Dearman Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 12:39 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] sales 101 Dang Travis - You need to let me send one of my installers up there. He can get 84 by himself in a month :-) I agree with what you are saying though as we haven't advertised in years and generally stay behind on the installs. I did buy some of those yard signs last month and put out advertising our service in several areas where we have had service for years and they did generate about 10x what I ever thought they would. Cheap stuff at $3.00 per sign w/stand Mac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 10:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] sales 101 The problem comes when you have too much business so you stop selling... and yes, it happens. We are in that phase right now... can't seem to hire people fast enough... and yet we haven't done any real sales for over a year... (currently have 84 wireless orders waiting to be installed... that's a full month with 5 full-time installers.) Travis Microserv Peter R. wrote: Selling is actively working a process or plan to ink deals. It involves prospecting, answering objections, providing a value proposition, inking contracts. Charles is right about the used car sales attitude, but that isn't usually the issue. Usually the issue is that no one is selling... everyone is just taking the orders as they come in. That's like saying the guy at the post office is in sales... How many stamps do you want? Cold calling, door knocking, networking and prospecting are sales activities. Waiting by the phone is not :) Peter Radizeski RAD-INFO, Inc. Marketing IDEA guy.com Charles Wu wrote: snip Profile your best clients. Pick out who you want your clients to be. Research them. Be in front of them. Sell them. /snip Here's one thing to discuss -- selling vs order taking The conundrum of sales is that everyone LOVES to buy, but HATES being sold to When one goes in the mentality to try to sell something -- more often than not, one ends up more like the greasy car salesperson that leaves a bad taste in someone's mouth -Charles -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] FW: Notice That Public Release of FCC Form 477 Data Has Been Sought
Anyone else get this? _ From: FCC 477 Contact [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 8:46 AM To: FCC 477 Contact Subject: Notice That Public Release of FCC Form 477 Data Has Been Sought The attached Public Notice is being sent to you because you were the contact person for a FCC Form 477 filing. If you filed Form 477 as a contractor, consultant, or legal counsel for a client company, you may wish to forward this information to your client. The Public Notice provides a contact for further information. The Public Notice is also available online at http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-06-2534A1.pdf http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-06-2534A1.pdf. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] FW: Notice That Public Release of FCC Form 477 Data Has BeenSought
K answered my question! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess - 2K Wireless Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 7:03 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] FW: Notice That Public Release of FCC Form 477 Data Has BeenSought Anyone else get this? _ From: FCC 477 Contact [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 8:46 AM To: FCC 477 Contact Subject: Notice That Public Release of FCC Form 477 Data Has Been Sought The attached Public Notice is being sent to you because you were the contact person for a FCC Form 477 filing. If you filed Form 477 as a contractor, consultant, or legal counsel for a client company, you may wish to forward this information to your client. The Public Notice provides a contact for further information. The Public Notice is also available online at http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-06-2534A1.pdf http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-06-2534A1.pdf. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Making progress one step at a time
Congrats! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 9:11 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Making progress one step at a time Just a quick note to let EVERYONE know that I stood up my first paying customer this week! The Tranzeo gear goes in real easy and so far (knock on my wooden head) works great! Thanks to all who answered all my stupid questions and helped me so far. Regards, Jim in Kansas City -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] latency
I belive there is a forumula, talk to a RF guy for that. In 2.4, figure 11 miles, less than 3ms average. Noise floor don't help, depends one usage, etc in the area. You can have two APs on the same channel, they will work, soon as you add more than a few users to the one AP,a single user on the other will quit working So.. Really jut the time it takes to get from point a to point b and back, then figure in some fudge. We maintain around 10-20 ms across 2 hop towers. Dennis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of chris cooper Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 6:40 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] latency Hi- Is there a methodology for predicting latency in a link that is X miles long with y noise floor etc? Thanks chris -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Overage plan help
You can setup limits based on a block of Ips, you can say, 2 meg for say 30 min, then drop them down to another speed, such as 128k. This is very effective; however, the hard part is that this is an overall rate for a specific IP. So if you have a business with 20 users behind their router, it's an average over all the users. One user can slow the rest of the network down. Not to mention that slows down web access. As far as running multiple, I DON'T think you can do that. Multiple, being, after so long turn them down to this, then after so long turn them down to this, unless that was a script looking at overall bits transferred. The simplest thing to do is to start charging that customer that is pulling 30+ gigs a month, and charge him for that. Either that customer will pay or get off of your internet service and got your completion. I remember a Dialup ISP doing something like that in the past, they looked at there base and found 4%, and it was a specifc 4% of their users caused 90% of all of the helpdesk calls. They said, you can have this cheaper rate, but if you have to call in, we will charge you per min (people PC like) or you can discontinue service with us. Even after about 1/2 of them customers they sent this letter to left, they ended up letting 3 techs go, and were actually saving more than double the cost that those dial up customers income brought in. Same difference. Dennis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 12:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Overage plan help That helps. Thanks! As an fyi here's what I pay for my bw. In Odessa I have a 10 meg fiber link. I pay for internet at $200 per month based on our average usage. In and out are combined. In Ephrata, where we have the servers etc. I have a 100 meg fiber link. I pay for internet at $250 at the 95%. This is the one that's killing me. When we moved to this new upstream provider our connectivity improved noticeably. Our costs have also now gone up because things work so much better than they did. I really don't want to rate limit people. But I've got to figure out a way to keep that 95th% thing down better but still be able to pull 30 megs at a fiber customer's location via speakeasy! grin Maybe I'll see if Butch can come up with something that will choke people back after 10 minutes of anything over say, 2 megs, then slow them down down down till they stop using the net for an hour or two. Wonder how hard it would be to set up the MT boxes to do that? laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Larry A Weidig [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 10:05 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Overage plan help Marlon: The first part is pretty easy, we will just assume a 30 month day: Bytes = 1,000,000 bps * 60 seconds/min * 60 min/hour * 24 hours/day * 30 days / 8 bits/byte = 324,000,000,000 The next part to covert to gigabytes is where people will have disputes. I use 1GB = 1,073,741,824 bytes, but you can see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigabyte for the entire discussion. Therefore in a month of continuous transfer they would move about 301.7 GB! We also charge residential customers for transfer and have the limit set at 4GB which is more than enough for 95%+ of our customers. The other 5% simply get slowed down to dialup rates when they cross the limit by our bandwidth monitor. If they want to pump the speed back up they need to pay for additional transfer which we sell in 4GB blocks at about the same as the monthly cost for the service. This definitely cuts down on the abusers of the system which are of course the hardest on the network. For business customers we just price service accordingly and do not place transfer limits on these accounts. That is just my 2 cents worth, hope it helps. Larry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 11:21 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Cc: isp-wireless@isp-wireless.com Subject: [WISPA] Overage plan help Hi All, As most of you know, we bill for bits not speed. All of our customers go as fast as we can make them go. They do have to be responsible users though. To this end we had a 1 gig per month transfer limit. When I say gig, I mean it in the sense of what 1mbps service would be. So I guess that's byte not bit. Though I must admit, I get mixed up on the translation from bits per second to bits transferred. Anyhow, using the data we got from that
RE: [WISPA] AP Search
MT is the ideal access point. New smartbridges sux, I have seen so many people say that they have had issues with them. Passing the username/password, such as a PPPOE session is no problem. It can terminte right at the access point with a MT. Using radius is no issue either. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Forbes Mercy Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 1:29 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] AP Search We're still looking for the ideal Access Point. We realize we can't pack much more then 30-40 on these so that's one limitation. We use basically three types: Older Smartbridges 2510 which are great units but unavailable, the New Smartbridges replacements which don't seem to want to consistently stay up and Engenius AP's. The reason we like the Smartbridge is because it allows a pass through username/password style of authentication that bypasses the switch so we can have a centralized access granted in our radius server and it interfaces to our billing. We haven't found another like it. On the other hand the Engenius has to have authentication through the switch before radius so the AP is essentially open to relaying from unethical competitors while the smartbridges. We're pretty sick of the new smartbridges being not only unreliable but takes forever to put in a MAC through it's overly complicated and slow loading internal menus. If you have any others that can work like the old 2510' s with good capacity and pass through radius please let me know. Thanks, Forbes Mercy President - Washington Broadband, Inc. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.18/585 - Release Date: 12/13/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] AP Search
Or you can hotspot EVERY access point! Mac authencation is no issue. Or you can do the PPPoE thing too. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess - 2K Wireless Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 3:08 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] AP Search MT is the ideal access point. New smartbridges sux, I have seen so many people say that they have had issues with them. Passing the username/password, such as a PPPOE session is no problem. It can terminte right at the access point with a MT. Using radius is no issue either. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Forbes Mercy Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 1:29 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] AP Search We're still looking for the ideal Access Point. We realize we can't pack much more then 30-40 on these so that's one limitation. We use basically three types: Older Smartbridges 2510 which are great units but unavailable, the New Smartbridges replacements which don't seem to want to consistently stay up and Engenius AP's. The reason we like the Smartbridge is because it allows a pass through username/password style of authentication that bypasses the switch so we can have a centralized access granted in our radius server and it interfaces to our billing. We haven't found another like it. On the other hand the Engenius has to have authentication through the switch before radius so the AP is essentially open to relaying from unethical competitors while the smartbridges. We're pretty sick of the new smartbridges being not only unreliable but takes forever to put in a MAC through it's overly complicated and slow loading internal menus. If you have any others that can work like the old 2510' s with good capacity and pass through radius please let me know. Thanks, Forbes Mercy President - Washington Broadband, Inc. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.18/585 - Release Date: 12/13/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Overage plan help
MT MT MT MT MT MT MT MT MT Oh and MT ... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 5:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Overage plan help Gang, What's everyone using to do rate limiting or bandwidth shaping. Bandwidth shaping is something I'm interested in. Are there any linux packages that can do this well? Jason Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: That helps. Thanks! As an fyi here's what I pay for my bw. In Odessa I have a 10 meg fiber link. I pay for internet at $200 per month based on our average usage. In and out are combined. In Ephrata, where we have the servers etc. I have a 100 meg fiber link. I pay for internet at $250 at the 95%. This is the one that's killing me. When we moved to this new upstream provider our connectivity improved noticeably. Our costs have also now gone up because things work so much better than they did. I really don't want to rate limit people. But I've got to figure out a way to keep that 95th% thing down better but still be able to pull 30 megs at a fiber customer's location via speakeasy! grin Maybe I'll see if Butch can come up with something that will choke people back after 10 minutes of anything over say, 2 megs, then slow them down down down till they stop using the net for an hour or two. Wonder how hard it would be to set up the MT boxes to do that? laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Larry A Weidig [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 10:05 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Overage plan help Marlon: The first part is pretty easy, we will just assume a 30 month day: Bytes = 1,000,000 bps * 60 seconds/min * 60 min/hour * 24 hours/day * 30 days / 8 bits/byte = 324,000,000,000 The next part to covert to gigabytes is where people will have disputes. I use 1GB = 1,073,741,824 bytes, but you can see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigabyte for the entire discussion. Therefore in a month of continuous transfer they would move about 301.7 GB! We also charge residential customers for transfer and have the limit set at 4GB which is more than enough for 95%+ of our customers. The other 5% simply get slowed down to dialup rates when they cross the limit by our bandwidth monitor. If they want to pump the speed back up they need to pay for additional transfer which we sell in 4GB blocks at about the same as the monthly cost for the service. This definitely cuts down on the abusers of the system which are of course the hardest on the network. For business customers we just price service accordingly and do not place transfer limits on these accounts. That is just my 2 cents worth, hope it helps. Larry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 11:21 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Cc: isp-wireless@isp-wireless.com Subject: [WISPA] Overage plan help Hi All, As most of you know, we bill for bits not speed. All of our customers go as fast as we can make them go. They do have to be responsible users though. To this end we had a 1 gig per month transfer limit. When I say gig, I mean it in the sense of what 1mbps service would be. So I guess that's byte not bit. Though I must admit, I get mixed up on the translation from bits per second to bits transferred. Anyhow, using the data we got from that great new usage tracking software that Brandon wrote for us, it's clear that 1 gig won't cut it. (The original 1 gig is the result of figuring out that our average dial-up user in 1999 used 110 meg per month.) Today, I've raised the included service level to 4 gigs. The 5th gig is an extra $5. The next one is $10, then $20, then $40 etc. etc. etc. By the time you hit 25 gigs of data transfer, you're into me for over $5,000,000. Naturally, no one will pay that and they aren't really expected to. However, our billing rate is designed for folks that are spending $35 to $40 per month and doing less than 4 gigs per month. If someone is using a lot of data there are two main issues that I have to recover costs for. One is that I pay for internet access based on usage. So the more the customers use the more I have to pay, and it's up by 15% last month! Next, there is only so much capacity on each tower, if we have heavy users in a particular zone we have to add capacity for them. In the end, what I'm trying to do is either bill or run off the 5% of the customer
RE: [WISPA] 900 Mhz Mikrotik SR9 Clients
New.. www.highgainantennas.com. These are 2.4 though. You an do a 900 for what, a bit over 300. We charge 350 to make sure we are in the green. Dennis Burgess, MCP, CCNA, A+, N+, Mikrotik Certified [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.2kwireless.com 2K Wireless provides high-speed internet access, along with network consulting for WISPs, and business's with a focus on TCP/IP networking, security, and Mikrotik routers. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Cooper Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 3:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] 900 Mhz Mikrotik SR9 Clients Not sure I follow you Dennis- are you purchasing these new for this price or is this what you are valuing them at takeover? Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dennis Burgess - 2K Wireless Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 1:25 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] 900 Mhz Mikrotik SR9 Clients We are picking up 2.4 gig CPE/Routers, QOS, NAT, and DHCP is all built into the CPE, for what, 99 bucks! 150 something including a 19db antenna, where the 99 is a 12 db antenna. BTW, both are B/G and 400mw output. Good for here in MO with our dang HILLS! Dennis Burgess, MCP, CCNA, A+, N+, Mikrotik Certified [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.2kwireless.com 2K Wireless provides high-speed internet access, along with network consulting for WISPs, and business's with a focus on TCP/IP networking, security, and Mikrotik routers. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 12:28 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] 900 Mhz Mikrotik SR9 Clients You missed the thread though Blair. Our CPEs are as low as $245 complete and only $285 for very low volume (25 a quarter). We have AUs now also for about $2500 MSRP (list price). And we can filter and control packets without a router, including broadcast packet rate limiting. Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 10:06 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900 Mhz Mikrotik SR9 Clients Why provide routers? To improve the isolation of the user from the network. To filter and control packets at the customer end before they clog up my wireless bandwidth. We run private IP space on our wireless network for the same reasons. We provide anti-virus and anti-spyware software for the same reasons. I'd love to be able to put up $500 cpe's and $5000 AP's But in my area, that would price me out of the market. We Patrick Leary wrote: Why do you have to have the router? The DSL and cable guys don't provide routers (not without extra fees). I provide my own in my home. At work we have our own router. VL also can do VLAN, all the way to QinQ 802.3ad VLANs. It does 802.1q. It does layer 2 802.1p. Layer 3 prioritization with IP TOS (RFC791) and DSCP (RFC2474). And layer 4 with UDP/TCP port range. And we can deliver real VoIP QoS with a MOS of 4.0 and better using our proprietary WLP (wireless link prioritization) protocol. (And that's not marketing goop, it's been tested by a tier 1 operator and it blew them away.) Plus, in the end the thing that I admit really gets me is that some of these products simply are not legal at all and are illegally shipped in from overseas. If we just blatantly flauted the laws we could save tons in RD and legal too. It has always been disappointing that some WISPs simply don't care about that. Especially when at the same time the same WISP might complain that another WISP is over driving a system. Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Butch Evans Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 8:24 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] 900 Mhz Mikrotik SR9 Clients On Fri, 1 Dec 2006, Patrick Leary wrote: reduced truck roll, Where are you getting this? I have been in the ISP business longer than MOST people on this list. I have nothing bad to say about Alvarion equipment, but the fact is, that to use Alvarion gear in any network I would build, you would HAVE to add an addition cost for a router. SO, we would add another $25ish to the cost of your CPE. At this point, the price is exactly the same (or very close). NOW, let's talk about upsell capability. With the Alvarion solution (including a router), I could upgrade the speed, but that costs how much? I could offer a firewall, vpn, qos or other options, but I'd have to change the cost of the router from a $25 router to (at least) a $100 router. If I am able to hit one customer in an area, but the others have obscured LOS, I
RE: [WISPA] 900 Mhz Mikrotik SR9 Clients
Just a FYI, I would not be purchasing ANY of the equipment in most cases. 3-6 months of each customers monthly reoccurring, and I am taking over your costs on the towers. That's about it. Now if your network has standards, as mine has MTs for APs only, and such, or any other brand, I would look at that as, ya that equipment is worth something Even if it was MTs, a tower with 3 sectors and a backhaul would only be worth, what 500 to 1000 in a buy out. That's assuming that it is all working and the subs are the same. If I had to buy proprietary gear to add customers, then I would maybe even drop that price a bit. What I am trying to say is that the gear really don't matter, it's the subs and the leases. The leases are a liability, they cost, so I am not going to purchase a lease from someone. I will purchase what equipment is up there, and the subs they are off of. But most likely would swap that out at the time of takeover. (Been thinking of this lately) Dennis Burgess, MCP, CCNA, A+, N+, Mikrotik Certified [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.2kwireless.com 2K Wireless provides high-speed internet access, along with network consulting for WISPs, and business's with a focus on TCP/IP networking, security, and Mikrotik routers. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 12:01 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] 900 Mhz Mikrotik SR9 Clients I appreciate the honest criticism, really, but the situation about your network being at an equity disadvantage is very real. You CAN sell it, but you won't find many eager buyers and you won't get a good price. An Alvarion network does bring a higher value. I'm sure Moto networks may fetch an okay price (not as high as an Alvarion network). But, and this is the reality, an 802.11b network has a much lower equity value. An 802.11 network using illegal gear will have an even worse value. That's just reality and I will try to get validation from one or two of the roll-up guys I know and I'll ask if I can quote him. ...(I've placed him in the bcc, hopefully he is around this weekend to extend his opinion.) Regards, Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Smith Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 9:19 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] 900 Mhz Mikrotik SR9 Clients Why can't I sell what I've built ?Because it doesn't brag on the Alvarion name ? Please. As for growth path, I've got rooftop leases for these repeaters. They're legally guaranteed for 30 yrs in most cases. Sheesh, in some cases, the houses will fall down before the equipment dies. I noticed that you pointed out the CX-BA-2.4-900 stuff. That's all fine and good. Oranges to Oranges, its WA more expensive to use Alvarion, and by $1000's. CX 2.4/900 repeater is like $2,000 or more. Same functionality with Mikrotik and Ubiquiti is around $500. So, the way I see it, I can put 4 repeaters up, and cover 4 times the area that I can with one CX repeater. AND, my tower side cost me $2,000 less as well! So, $5,000 spent = 1 customer and repeater with tower side on Alvarion, or 9 customers with repeaters and tower side with Mikrotik / Ubiquiti, AND I've got 9 repeaters out there touching a ton more customers. With Mikrotik, I've got firewalling / vpn / qos / bandwidth metering / HOTSPOT / OSPF / WDS / and a routed network all the way to each customer, OR a bridged network if I should so choose. Why would I have any less a path for growth or satisfactory exit in putting together Mikrotik solutions as opposed to Alvarion ? Cost of implementation's cheaper. Cost of replacement's cheaper. Cost of value added services are cheaper, AND implemented with only a phone call from the customer or even a hotspot implementation. Future bandwidth's just there - no manufacturer throttling to pay to upgrade like Alvarion Mikrotik doesn't tell me what I can't do - they put it all there and let you decide. No unlock extortion. Actually, I just sold a chunk of my Pennsylvania network, that was still in a build-up phase, with tower sites installed and a couple customers, for some cash that's going to run the rest of my network for a while. Whole thing was built on Canopy and Mikrotik tower sides and cpe's. Ya know, there IS one product I'll use religiously from Alvarion and it's the 2.4 DS11 backhaul units. Rock solid, decently priced (on the used market) and it's truly install-and-forget-it's-there stuff. I just don't see the financial advantage to spending anything else on Alvarion gear though. Especially when I've got high speed backhauls, short and long distance backhauls, multiple frequency ranges, including licensed and public safety, LOS, NLOS and hotspot / billing / etc all built into one platform that doesn't
RE: [WISPA] 900 Mhz Mikrotik SR9 Clients
We are picking up 2.4 gig CPE/Routers, QOS, NAT, and DHCP is all built into the CPE, for what, 99 bucks! 150 something including a 19db antenna, where the 99 is a 12 db antenna. BTW, both are B/G and 400mw output. Good for here in MO with our dang HILLS! Dennis Burgess, MCP, CCNA, A+, N+, Mikrotik Certified [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.2kwireless.com 2K Wireless provides high-speed internet access, along with network consulting for WISPs, and business's with a focus on TCP/IP networking, security, and Mikrotik routers. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 12:28 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] 900 Mhz Mikrotik SR9 Clients You missed the thread though Blair. Our CPEs are as low as $245 complete and only $285 for very low volume (25 a quarter). We have AUs now also for about $2500 MSRP (list price). And we can filter and control packets without a router, including broadcast packet rate limiting. Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 10:06 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900 Mhz Mikrotik SR9 Clients Why provide routers? To improve the isolation of the user from the network. To filter and control packets at the customer end before they clog up my wireless bandwidth. We run private IP space on our wireless network for the same reasons. We provide anti-virus and anti-spyware software for the same reasons. I'd love to be able to put up $500 cpe's and $5000 AP's But in my area, that would price me out of the market. We Patrick Leary wrote: Why do you have to have the router? The DSL and cable guys don't provide routers (not without extra fees). I provide my own in my home. At work we have our own router. VL also can do VLAN, all the way to QinQ 802.3ad VLANs. It does 802.1q. It does layer 2 802.1p. Layer 3 prioritization with IP TOS (RFC791) and DSCP (RFC2474). And layer 4 with UDP/TCP port range. And we can deliver real VoIP QoS with a MOS of 4.0 and better using our proprietary WLP (wireless link prioritization) protocol. (And that's not marketing goop, it's been tested by a tier 1 operator and it blew them away.) Plus, in the end the thing that I admit really gets me is that some of these products simply are not legal at all and are illegally shipped in from overseas. If we just blatantly flauted the laws we could save tons in RD and legal too. It has always been disappointing that some WISPs simply don't care about that. Especially when at the same time the same WISP might complain that another WISP is over driving a system. Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Butch Evans Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 8:24 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] 900 Mhz Mikrotik SR9 Clients On Fri, 1 Dec 2006, Patrick Leary wrote: reduced truck roll, Where are you getting this? I have been in the ISP business longer than MOST people on this list. I have nothing bad to say about Alvarion equipment, but the fact is, that to use Alvarion gear in any network I would build, you would HAVE to add an addition cost for a router. SO, we would add another $25ish to the cost of your CPE. At this point, the price is exactly the same (or very close). NOW, let's talk about upsell capability. With the Alvarion solution (including a router), I could upgrade the speed, but that costs how much? I could offer a firewall, vpn, qos or other options, but I'd have to change the cost of the router from a $25 router to (at least) a $100 router. If I am able to hit one customer in an area, but the others have obscured LOS, I would have to build another AP somewhere, where with MT, I could just add an $80 (including antenna) upgrade to their router and offer service off that new AP. I can offer real options for firewall, vpn, qos from their ethernet port all the way to my network edge. Did I miss anything? Perhaps there are other options that Alvarion has that I missed. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(190). This footnote
RE: [WISPA] Wireless Security biting you in the ass?
Well said! Dennis Burgess, MCP, CCNA, A+, N+, Mikrotik Certified [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.2kwireless.com 2K Wireless provides high-speed internet access, along with network consulting for WISPs, and business's with a focus on TCP/IP networking, security, and Mikrotik routers. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 4:25 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wireless Security biting you in the ass? Officially, hippa compliance is a CLIENT issue. As long as the data is properly encrypted there's no need for the transport to be. Some will argue this (mainly the telco but sometimes the customer). It's still a fact. Questions to ask them. What do the Doctors use for connectivity to their handheld devices? Right, wireless. What is the encryption mechanism on a t-1 or dsl link? Right, none. What is the security on the cable network? Right, none. Does the facility have a wireless network? Care to have me break into it for you? (I'm told that WPA has now been cracked too.) We went around in circles with a local Sheriff's office on this issue. In the end it was decided that the only real way to be hippa compliant was to encrypt the data AT THE PC level. ANYTHING done after that point was all but useless. They confirmed this with the DOJ. All that's needed is data security, not transport security. If transport security is what's wanted then EVERY vlan switch, router etc. in the loop is a possible security hole. This risk runs end to end, regardless of the transport medium. Good luck. Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 2:16 PM Subject: [WISPA] Wireless Security biting you in the ass? Wireless broadband security issues have now officially led to my business being put into a bad light due to perceived lack of security. I am a member of a regional broadband planning group that is working with health care and other industry sectors to help deliver broadband options to all areas that need it. Rural Health centers and hospitals are all over the region and most need access to broadband which is highly secure. I need to know what others have done to bring HIPAA compliance assurance to network administrators and hospital personnel so that your solutions are chosen and used for health care connectivity. Currently my services are not being considered do to the perception of a lack of HIPAA security compliance. I need to get on top of this right now and welcome your thoughts and ideas. I would prefer to hear from those of you who have some actual knowledge of delivering HIPAA compliant connections or those who provide equipment which has been documented to meet HIPAA compliance. Thank you, John Scrivner -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] star os/sr2----mikrotik/cm9
Differrance between a SR2 and CM9. the CM9 is better at receiving, more sensitive I belive, not to mention, its not yelling all the time. CM9s are a staple, when you don't have trees. Try dropping the power output on your SR2, maybe you can find a happy medium. Have you tried replacing the SR2, we had just replaced two, we were getting -80s on a small backhaul, MT to MT, and after we swapped the radio, we were back at -60 .. Why, got me! Dennis Burgess, MCP, CCNA, A+, N+, Mikrotik Certified [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.2kwireless.com 2K Wireless provides high-speed internet access, along with network consulting for WISPs, and business's with a focus on TCP/IP networking, security, and Mikrotik routers. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 10:05 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] star os/sr2mikrotik/cm9 When I use sr2 my ack timing is all over the place, like 300 and the links are crap. I drop in a cm9 and all the ack's fall to 30's where they should be. This is all on MT. Brian Blair Davis wrote: The cm9 is rated for 17db The sr2 is rated for about 26db we are happy with the sr2, sr5 and sr9. all deployed and work well Brian Rohrbacher wrote: I replaced a star os/sr2 with a mikrotik/cm9 setup on an omni. I thought it would help my noise issues to get rid of the amped up sr2. It may have helped a little but now I have signal that I think it quite a bit less at the clients. What level of power is the cm9 at by default in a mikrotik and if I switch it to manual what could I push it to? Brian -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Mikrotik/RB112/SR9
We have some pac antennas and another one, ca'nt think of what they were, we have not deployed 900mhz rootennas. Dennis Burgess, MCP, CCNA, A+, N+, Mikrotik Certified [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.2kwireless.com 2K Wireless provides high-speed internet access, along with network consulting for WISPs, and business's with a focus on TCP/IP networking, security, and Mikrotik routers. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 2:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik/RB112/SR9 What antenna are you using? Anyone used the 900MHz Rootenna? Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Leon D. Zetekoff, NCE [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik/RB112/SR9 Mark Nash - Lists wrote: Has anyone used the SR9's in a RB112? They are a little bigger so will they physically fit? How do you like them? We're using them and they seem to work ok. Having the right antenna is a key too. leon Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] star os/sr2----mikrotik/cm9
60mw, compaired to 400 If I remember. Dennis Burgess, MCP, CCNA, A+, N+, Mikrotik Certified [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.2kwireless.com 2K Wireless provides high-speed internet access, along with network consulting for WISPs, and business's with a focus on TCP/IP networking, security, and Mikrotik routers. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 6:12 PM To: Conversations over a new WISP Trade Organization Subject: [WISPA] star os/sr2mikrotik/cm9 I replaced a star os/sr2 with a mikrotik/cm9 setup on an omni. I thought it would help my noise issues to get rid of the amped up sr2. It may have helped a little but now I have signal that I think it quite a bit less at the clients. What level of power is the cm9 at by default in a mikrotik and if I switch it to manual what could I push it to? Brian -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] on call staff
How does this relate to a person that is salaried and expected to be available all the time? Dennis Burgess, MCP, CCNA, A+, N+, Mikrotik Certified [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.2kwireless.com 2K Wireless provides high-speed internet access, along with network consulting for WISPs, and business's with a focus on TCP/IP networking, security, and Mikrotik routers. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 12:15 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] on call staff Travis brings up a good point. the legality of it. It difficult to implement a policiy, that is not 100% legal. If not documented, how can one be held accountable for following it. If its documented then you just gave your employee the abilty to win a law suit agaisnt you, as you've admitted the policy and practice of it. So to effectively launch an on-call policy, one must first consider the legal ramifications and account for them. Take note that it is not necessarilly a requirement to pay full minimum wage for on-call duty. Just like the airlines that pay a reduced wage when they are on-call. However, conflicting law infers that if an employee is on-call, they must be paid for being on-call even if they are not performing work and jsut on standby. The exact interpretation of these law really depends on what duties they have when they are on-call. Do they just work when an insodent comes in? Are they required to comprmise their life in any way while in on-call status? And how will this apply? Again questions best answered by legal council knowledgable with the laws of your state, as state employment law usually has further restrictions. We found that the person that took/qualified the off-hour service request should not necessarilly be the same person that actually went onsite to do the repair work. Expecially if they don't get paid to do it, or more so if they do get paid overtime. If you pay overtime, they go onsite when they may not normally have to, to rake up some extra top dollar pay. If you don't pay, then they are likely to respond slower to outages, such as wait until morning to investigate instead of when it actually happens at night. And what do you do when, an on-call tech responds 10 hours late, because they went away with their family anyway? How would you know, since you left it up to someone else to monitor when outages occured. By the time you find out that the tech responded to slow (the next day), its to late and nothing you can do able it to correct it sooner. And can you complain when they were expected to do it for free? What I do is I take the off-hours monitoring duty personally, so I can qualify when a site visit is required or not on the weekend. Then I call the tech on-call and make them go out, if needed. I often do the off-hour repair personally, jsut because I want to save on over-time pay, and want the techs to get some rest and fun, because I work them hard during the week, and they need the rest. I recently offloaded the night monitoring to one of our techs that I trust, in trade that he would not have to do the truck rolls on the week end. But I always have a different tech responsible for checking for outages in the mornings than the tech on night on-call duty so I have appropriate checks and balances. I have not found a perfect system yet, jsut because we do not have enough staff to share the duty adequately and still ahve checks and balances, where there is a second person on-call in case the first person missed it. What I plan to do is to start scheduling overlapping schedules so more of the day is handled by paid staff, and less time to be covered by on-call duty. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 10:28 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] on call staff Hi, That's not legal (at least not in Idaho). Someone on salary still can only work 40 hours per week unless they are a manager, meaning they have 3 people under them, or they are a professional position (lawyer, doctor, etc.). One of my friends owns a drafting company. Had everyone on Salary for 2 years and was working them 50+ hours per week. They fired a guy and so he turned them into the Dept Labor. After the audit, they had to pay back overtime to everyone (costing them almost $40,000 for the 2 year period). We have guys on call. If they have to go after hours, we give them time off during the payperiod so they aren't over 40 hours. Travis Microserv David E. Smith wrote: chris cooper wrote: How do the rest of you compensate tech staff for on call duties? We have an on call tech that monitors network remotely throughout weekend and is responsible for rolling to tower/major customer in case of
RE: [WISPA] Solar power
Yep. We just did. Just a single 532 with dual SR2 cards. Dennis Burgess, MCP, CCNA, A+, N+, Mikrotik Certified [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.2kwireless.com 2K Wireless provides high-speed internet access, along with network consulting for WISPs, and business's with a focus on TCP/IP networking, security, and Mikrotik routers. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 4:58 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Solar power Anyone who's put in solar at a POP care to hit me offlist? I need to light one up and possibly may have to use solar. Thanks! -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] DHCP with a twist
I just stick with all private addressing. The radios, high gain antennas and TenXs we use all do NAT in them, so we just leave it at that. Dennis Burgess, MCP, CCNA, A+, N+, Mikrotik Certified [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.2kwireless.com 2K Wireless provides high-speed internet access, along with network consulting for WISPs, and business's with a focus on TCP/IP networking, security, and Mikrotik routers. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pete Davis Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 12:43 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DHCP with a twist I know a nearby WISP that gives his customers IP space and his CPE space on the same last 3 octets. Makes figuring out who's CPE belongs to who's equipmnent much easier: For example: Customer addr = 64.123.105.33, CPE addr: 10.123.105.33 We keep out CPE private, and customer addr public, but we aren't quite THAT organized. pd Ryan Langseth wrote: David, On Thu, 2006-11-09 at 11:23 -0600, David E. Smith wrote: As part of the ongoing (does it ever stop?) efforts to make a Better Network, I've finally started using private subnets where appropriate. I'd love to be able to better automate some parts of my network, though, and I'm not sure how to do both of 'em at the same time. (Right now, substantially our whole network uses static IP assignments everywhere, and that's not really viable long-term.) My ideal scenario would be something like this: * The AP runs a DHCP server and talks to a RADIUS server (that's easy) * When a client associates, do a RADIUS lookup to see if they should be allowed to associate (that's easy too) * Give the CPE an IP address from one subnet, then give whatever else is there an IP from a different subnet (that's the tricky part) Why not have the AP run a DHCP relay instead of a full server, have everything relayed to a central server of your choice that way IP management becomes a one stop shop. Reservations would take care of setting IPs for specific mac addresses. This is made even more complicated by the fact that many of our CPE are Senao CB3 units, which do MAC cloning and I don't think you can turn it off. (Basically, both the CPE and the customer's router, or whatever, show up in my tower as having the CPE's MAC.) We are currently setting two IPs for each customer using a cb3, one for the cb3 and one for the customer's equipment ( router, computer etc ) so you should be able to apply a different IP for each piece of equipment. If I weren't trying to conserve public IP space, this would be easy enough - just give the CPE one IP address and the customer's gear a second one. But there's really no reason for my radios to be visible to the public Internet, and it's wasteful of those sweet sweet IPs. I know there's a solution to this problem, because that's basically how most cable modem setups work. (Annoyingly, I can't get my company's wireless Internet at home, so I've got cable modem there.) The cable modem is a bit smarter than a CB3, though, thanks to DOCSIS. I'd like to do all this at the tower, instead of having to buy (or invent) new CPE if possible. Is this even possible? Anything is possible. I am planning a similar system, hopefully deployed by the first of the year. Along with our own IPs from ARIN and all new bandwidth. David Smith MVN.net Ryan Langseth invisimax.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Vonage and Fax
We use one in the Virgin Islands, keeping the speed down to 14.4 helps a lot. Dennis Burgess, MCP, CCNA, A+, N+, Mikrotik Certified [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.2kwireless.com 2K Wireless provides high-speed internet access, along with network consulting for WISPs, and business's with a focus on TCP/IP networking, security, and Mikrotik routers. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 10:27 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Vonage and Fax lol...sounds like you've had a rough time with Vonage and faxes. I've been a Vonage customer since December 2002 and have been running my DirecTV, home security and occasional fax through it with little trouble. Granted my faxing has been little to none at home, but the Tivo boxes and alarm system seem to work just fine. We keep two Vonage ATA accounts active and will provide them for a fee for various construction sites we service. Those guys do use the fax a bunch and the feed back has largely been keep your fax down to three or fewer pages and you're good. As I said before, YMMV. I would expect a circuit with marginal packet loss would be a no go for Vonage faxing. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Weddell Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 9:06 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Vonage and Fax Always a miss with Vonage on faxing. They continue to bring in a LOT of business based on the advertising that it works though. Imagine that. Regards, David Weddell Director of Sales 260 827 2551 Office 800 363 4881 Ext 2551 260 273 7547 Cell www.onlyinternet.net www.oibw.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 9:29 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Vonage and Fax It is hit and miss for multiple page faxes, but for the most part 1-3 pages will almost always go through. If you tell Vonage the line is going to be used for a fax machine they can make changes to improve fax performance. Also, some faxes will perform better than others. I believe Vonage has a list of preferred fax brands/models as well. YMMV... Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark McElvy Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 8:06 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Vonage and Fax No personal experience, but have seen a discussion in the past that everyone said it was hit and miss, mostly miss. Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. 573.729.9200 - Office 573.729.9203 - Fax 573.247.9980 - Mobile http://www.accubak.com/ http://www.accubak.net/ Nationwide Internet Access Accurate backups for your critical data! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 7:58 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Vonage and Fax Will a vonage # and service work with a fax machine? Brian -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ This electronic communication (including any attached document) may contain privileged and/or confidential information. This communication is intended only for the use of indicated e-mail addressees. If you are not an intended recipient of this communication, please be advised that any disclosure, dissemination, distribution, copying, or other use of this communication or any attached document is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and promptly destroy all electronic and printed copies of this communication and any attached document. Unauthorized interception of this e-mail is a violation of federal criminal law. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.13.32/523 - Release Date: 11/7/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.13.32/523 - Release Date: 11/7/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:
RE: [WISPA] 1st Solar project
Just a FYI for everyone here, we have a very basic solar setup. 1 x 80 watt panel 4 x 750 amp car batteries in parrell 1 x charging controller 1 x 532 2 x SR2s 1 x 24db grid 1 x 15db omni We hooked a POE directly to the 12volt output of the solar controller, and show .1 to .3 amps draw, its been cloudy for the past 4 days, rain, heavy clouds, no loss of service so far! Dennis Burgess, MCP, CCNA, A+, N+, Mikrotik Certified [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.2kwireless.com 2K Wireless provides high-speed internet access, along with network consulting for WISPs, and business's with a focus on TCP/IP networking, security, and Mikrotik routers. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carl A Jeptha Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 1:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; wisp part-15; WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] 1st Solar project Just setup my first solar power system. Having a problem though. we have three solar panels delivering 75 watts. We have two deep cycle batteries each with 1000 cranking amps. All this powers two tranzeos - tr5a-24f and a 6000. We cannot seem to maintain power on this setup. Located in Ontario Canada. -- You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] WISP Job Openings
Lol.. Dennis Burgess, MCP, CCNA, A+, N+, Mikrotik Certified [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.2kwireless.com 2K Wireless provides high-speed internet access, along with network consulting for WISPs, and business's with a focus on TCP/IP networking, security, and Mikrotik routers. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sam Tetherow Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 4:18 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISP Job Openings Scottsbluff Nebraska isn't remote enough for you?! :) Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless Dennis Burgess - 2K Wireless wrote: Anyone needing a remote engineer? Part-Time/Full Time, or Monthly allotment? Dennis Burgess, MCP, CCNA, A+, N+, Mikrotik Certified [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.2kwireless.com 2K Wireless provides high-speed internet access, along with network consulting for WISPs, and business's with a focus on TCP/IP networking, security, and Mikrotik routers. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] WISP Job Openings
Anyone needing a remote engineer? Part-Time/Full Time, or Monthly allotment? Dennis Burgess, MCP, CCNA, A+, N+, Mikrotik Certified [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.2kwireless.com 2K Wireless provides high-speed internet access, along with network consulting for WISPs, and business's with a focus on TCP/IP networking, security, and Mikrotik routers. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Larsen - Lists Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 3:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WISPA] WISP Job Openings Vistabeam is a WISP operation based in Scottsbluff, Nebraska, with 1000+ customers and 500 miles of wireless backbone covering 40,000 square miles in Wyoming, Nebraska, South Dakota and Colorado. We currently have openings for two positions, Lead Tech and Technical Support Specialist. Descriptions are found below. If interested, please send a resume to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Direct any questions to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Matt Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Lead Tech* *Salary and benefits:* $25-$40k salary (dependent on experience), 2 weeks vacation and 3 days sick pay, company vehicle, health insurance, cell phone, internet connection. *Primary job responsibilities:* Management and maintenance of network and network equipment; Management of tech support processes; Management of tech support personnel; Last resort technical support; Management of outsourced installers. *Overall expectation of duties and initiatives:* /Equipment:/ Design, support and enforce equipment and inventory processes for network hardware, installer hardware, and customer premise equipment;Work with office manager on inventory maintenance, RMAs, equipment ordering, and equipment inventory. /Technical Support: / Support and enforce technical support processes for customer telephone and on-site tech support; // Support and enforce technical support processes for installs, including installer telephone, on-site, and customer account/equipment programming; Lead support technician for installers and customers. /Network:/ Chiefly responsible for primary network build-out and maintenance, including tower climbing, network monitoring, and network equipment decision-making, management, and maintenance. This will require relocating to the Scottsbluff, NE area. *Technical Support Specialist * *Salary and benefits*: $7-$13 hourly (depending on experience). Cell phone, Internet connection. Health Insurance, vacation and sick pay available after 90 days employment. *Primary job responsibilities*: Identifying, analyzing and fixing faults which prevent users from connecting to the Internet. Assistance as required to Lead Tech and Customer Accounts Manager. *Overall expectation of duties and initiatives:* * Telephone, face-to-face, and email support * Responding to pre- and post-sales technical questions and sales questions * Resolving customers' issues promptly and accurately * Following-up with customers to confirm successful resolution of problems * Helping customers to install, configure, and troubleshoot their Internet connection * Investigating customers' network issues * Inform clients on status of issues with network This will require relocating to the Scottsbluff, NE area. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Introduction
Hi all, I was told to hop on over to this WISP List also, if you monitor the MikroTik or WISP lists from part-15, then you may already know of me. I am Dennis Burgess, from 2K Wireless. We are located in Festus, MO, just south of St. Louis. We have been operating for almost 3 years now, still small and underdeveloped! I have a number of certifications and do work for a number of private companies including holding a full time job as Director of IT for a group of local dealerships in and around St. Louis.I am MT certified and do provide after hours MT consulting and TCP/IP network design. All of the relevant info is below! Hope to learn a lot more and give out some of what I have learned here on the WISPA list. Dennis Burgess, MCP, CCNA, A+, N+, Mikrotik Certified [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.2kwireless.com 2K Wireless provides high-speed internet access, along with network consulting for WISPs, and business's with a focus on TCP/IP networking, security, and Mikrotik routers. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Introduction
Thanks dude! :) Dennis Burgess, MCP, CCNA, A+, N+, Mikrotik Certified [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.2kwireless.com 2K Wireless provides high-speed internet access, along with network consulting for WISPs, and business's with a focus on TCP/IP networking, security, and Mikrotik routers. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 10:11 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Introduction welcome to the best list on the net Dennis! Good to have ya hear. Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Dennis Burgess - 2K Wireless [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 6:22 AM Subject: [WISPA] Introduction Hi all, I was told to hop on over to this WISP List also, if you monitor the MikroTik or WISP lists from part-15, then you may already know of me. I am Dennis Burgess, from 2K Wireless. We are located in Festus, MO, just south of St. Louis. We have been operating for almost 3 years now, still small and underdeveloped! I have a number of certifications and do work for a number of private companies including holding a full time job as Director of IT for a group of local dealerships in and around St. Louis.I am MT certified and do provide after hours MT consulting and TCP/IP network design. All of the relevant info is below! Hope to learn a lot more and give out some of what I have learned here on the WISPA list. Dennis Burgess, MCP, CCNA, A+, N+, Mikrotik Certified [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.2kwireless.com 2K Wireless provides high-speed internet access, along with network consulting for WISPs, and business's with a focus on TCP/IP networking, security, and Mikrotik routers. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
