Re: [WISPA] IP Tracking

[Jeremy Austin via Wireless]

If you're willing to use commercial (hosted) software with an API (I
think), check out https://www.apteriks.com/

I used it for some years, but have now begun to switch to open-source
netbox https://github.com/digitalocean/netbox

Netbox takes some time to get rolling, as it can track far more than just
IP addresses.

One caveat is that while netbox is open source, development is tightly
controlled and data-center-centric.

Jeremy Austin

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> We are trying to better organize our IP address tracking. What affordable
> software do you recommend?  Solarwinds is not in our budget yet.
>
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Re: [WISPA] SIP Cordless phones

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On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 10:48 AM Nick Bright  wrote:

> The Grandstream DP715 also works reasonably well, but the audio quality
> out of the handset leaves a bit to be desired. It sounds empty. Might be
> better with a headset plugged in to it.
>

​Can concur; Grandstream can be decent value in their desk phones, but
their DECT cordlesses fell short in audio quality vs. the competition. It's
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Re: [WISPA] SIP Cordless phones

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On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 3:47 PM David Funderburk  wrote:
>
> We have  a small accounting firm that wants a mixture of desk phones and 
> cordless phones. The older people are used to desk phones and want to keep it 
> that way.  The younger employees prefer cordless so they can move around the 
> office while talking to clients. Both want to have features such as call 
> transfer, park, etc on their phones.

Got it.

If you're using a SIP cordless, features will be activated via DTMF
(and out-of-band signaling). If you're using a PBX that calls cell #s,
or softphones... features will be activated via DTMF.

If you want to go super fancy, there are DECT cell systems that allow
full roaming within the coverage area. I have run Aastra, haven't
tried Panasonic's system. We ran into weird issues like not being able
to dial zero, and phones that were many years behind state of the art.

From the perspective of the younger employees, a SIP phone is just a
cell phone that's broken because it can't run apps.

And if you want Bluetooth + mobile, be prepared to pay $300+ per handset.

>
>
> David
>
> On 2018/06/29 17:09, Jeremy Austin wrote:
>
> By cellular I also include VoWifi.
>
> I'm having a hard time seeing the general use case for SIP rather than
> VoWifi. At present, largely what we get is presence notification — SIP
> busy status.
> On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 12:45 PM Grand Avenue Broadband
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>
>
> On Jun 29, 2018, at 1:34 PM, Jeremy Austin  wrote:
>
> What's the use case that you'd prefer SIP over cellular, FWIW?
>
>
> Coverage holes where you've done some work to feed signal in but the cell 
> boys haven't...
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Re: [WISPA] SIP Cordless phones

[Jeremy Austin]

By cellular I also include VoWifi.

I'm having a hard time seeing the general use case for SIP rather than
VoWifi. At present, largely what we get is presence notification — SIP
busy status.
On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 12:45 PM Grand Avenue Broadband
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>
> On Jun 29, 2018, at 1:34 PM, Jeremy Austin  wrote:
>
> What's the use case that you'd prefer SIP over cellular, FWIW?
>
>
> Coverage holes where you've done some work to feed signal in but the cell 
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Re: [WISPA] SIP Cordless phones

[Jeremy Austin]

I can't say I like any SIP cordless phones.

I have used some, though…

Siemens and Panasonic have functional SIP-DECT. (Grandstream has some
too, but they have some build quality issues.)

Any other RF method is not ideal for voice.

Some people have success with softphone apps, WiFi that supports QoS,
and a smartphone — Bria worked well for us for a few years, less so
recently.

What's the use case that you'd prefer SIP over cellular, FWIW?

Jeremy

On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 12:30 PM David Funderburk
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>
> Anyone using any SIP cordless phones for business you like and would 
> recommend?
>
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Re: [WISPA] ethernet over twisted pair ?

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Still waiting on G.fast SFPs, but in the meantime VDSL2.
On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 3:06 PM  wrote:

> VDSL adapters
>
>
> https://www.startech.com/m/Networking-IO/Media-Converters/Ethernet-Extenders/10-100Mbps-VDSL2-Ethernet-LAN-Extender-Kit~110VDSLEXT
>
> -Mike
>
> On Oct 11, 2017, at 15:58, Jeff Evans  wrote:
>
> Seems like I have read of these adapters, can you recommend a device
> that will accomplish this?
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[WISPA] NANOG71

[Jeremy Austin]

Any WISPs at NANOG71/ARIN40 who want to talk wispish, hit me up. I’ll be
here all week.

Already met Werner from a South Africa, some cool stuff they’re doing.


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[WISPA] Harlingen, TX service request

[Jeremy Austin]

Anyone who can service a business at 8002 Westway Dr, Harlingen, TX, please
contact me.

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Re: [WISPA] [Wisp] Loss of David Kunat

[Jeremy Austin]

Fairly Alaskan… backhoe, rope, tin snips, rising tide…

I spoke to David's father today and he seemed to be holding up fairly well,
but they are obviously in triage mode. So far nothing's broken down and I
believe help is on the way.

A good reminder to us all to have a succession plan in place! Passwords,
network maps, etc.

On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 2:36 PM, Jan Van Kort <j.vank...@oregononline.net>
wrote:

> Somebody survived that crash?  People on the ground were true heroes!
> Amazing!  Very sorry for the victims families, this is tough tragic news.
>
> On 2017-05-30 10:40 AM, Jeremy Austin wrote:
>
> Some may find the images graphic in the article below. It is the story of
> the rescue of the sole survivor in the crash that claimed two lives.
>
> https://www.adn.com/alaska-news/2017/05/29/survivor-of-
> fatal-plane-crash-rescued-by-local-residents-as-water-rose/
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 8:17 AM, Chuck Hogg via WISP <w...@wispa.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Oh Wow.  David will be missed.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Chuck
>>
>> On Sun, May 28, 2017 at 4:51 PM, Richard Bernhardt <
>> rbstrateg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Very sincere condolences for the loss of David Kunat.   Prayers for his
>>> family and friends.  Very sad indeed.   - Richard Bernhardt
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 11:33 PM, Jeremy Austin <jhaus...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am sorry to report the loss of young Alaskan pilot and WISP operator
>>>> David Kunat, also a frequent contributor to this list, in a crash today.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.adn.com/alaska-news/aviation/2017/05/27/two-dead
>>>> -in-southeast-alaska-plane-crash/
>>>>
>>>> He will be missed.
>>>>
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Re: [WISPA] [Wisp] Loss of David Kunat

[Jeremy Austin]

Some may find the images graphic in the article below. It is the story of
the rescue of the sole survivor in the crash that claimed two lives.

https://www.adn.com/alaska-news/2017/05/29/survivor-of-fatal-plane-crash-rescued-by-local-residents-as-water-rose/



On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 8:17 AM, Chuck Hogg via WISP <w...@wispa.org> wrote:

> Oh Wow.  David will be missed.
>
> Regards,
> Chuck
>
> On Sun, May 28, 2017 at 4:51 PM, Richard Bernhardt <rbstrateg...@gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> Very sincere condolences for the loss of David Kunat.   Prayers for his
>> family and friends.  Very sad indeed.   - Richard Bernhardt
>>
>> On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 11:33 PM, Jeremy Austin <jhaus...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I am sorry to report the loss of young Alaskan pilot and WISP operator
>>> David Kunat, also a frequent contributor to this list, in a crash today.
>>>
>>> https://www.adn.com/alaska-news/aviation/2017/05/27/two-dead
>>> -in-southeast-alaska-plane-crash/
>>>
>>> He will be missed.
>>>
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[WISPA] Loss of David Kunat

[Jeremy Austin]

I am sorry to report the loss of young Alaskan pilot and WISP operator
David Kunat, also a frequent contributor to this list, in a crash today.

https://www.adn.com/alaska-news/aviation/2017/05/27/two-dead-in-southeast-alaska-plane-crash/

He will be missed.

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Re: [WISPA] LinkNYC

[Jeremy Austin]

You'd think someone would have seen that coming.

You'd think.
On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 1:05 PM Sean Heskett  wrote:

> And then this happened lol :-/
>
>
> https://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/09/15/nyregion/internet-browsers-to-be-disabled-on-new-yorks-free-wi-fi-kiosks.html
>
> -Sean
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 9:39 AM Gino A. Villarini 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Anyone has info on this project? Specially who is the fiber provider ?
>>
>> Visited NYC last week and was able to see how the project is advancing,
>> saw more than 40+ kiosks, all providing free-no holds barred Wifi, several
>> speedtests I ran were in the 100 Mbps+
>>
>>
>>
>> *Gino A. Villarini*
>> President
>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>
>>
>>
>> *Gino A. Villarini*
>> President
>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>
>> From: Gino Villarini 
>> Date: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 at 10:58 AM
>> To: Gino Villarini 
>> Subject: Dd
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Gino A. Villarini*
>> President
>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
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Re: [WISPA] 10 gig Switch

[Jeremy Austin]

On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 11:48 AM, Eric Tykwinski <eric-l...@truenet.com>
wrote:

> I wouldn’t use in production, but I’ve got a few Quanta LB6M switches in
> my lab.
>
> You can find them on ebay for 100-300 USD usually.
>

I concur with this. They're dirt cheap, but also don't support 1G SFPs.
Caveat emptor.



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Re: [WISPA] Quick B11 question

[Jeremy Austin]

On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 8:50 AM, Gino Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> wrote:

> one end of a link have the data on the SFP and the other end on copper?


Caveats:

Switching between SFP and copper requires a reboot in the current firmware,
oddly.

Some SFP models do not like to come up on a cold boot without a
re-plug/re-light on the switch/router end; I suggest using the
Mimosa-recommended SFP.


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Re: [WISPA] 18 Ghz Range

[Jeremy]

At a previous employer, we had an 18 and 22 mile link on low power
DragonWave 3' dishes.  They would drop out every time it rained.  We
replaced them with high power and they dropped out less.  On another link
we used 6' dishes to go something like 27 miles.  That link seemed pretty
stable, but holy crap those dishes are big.

On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 9:06 AM, Kris McElroy 
wrote:

> My advice is that you run this link through Cambiums Link Planner software
> or have your vendor run it for you.  The way an 18ghz link in Idaho would
> perform is different than the way it would in Texas do to the different
> rain rates.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Kris McElroy
>
> 360 Communications
> e: kmcel...@threesixtycomm.net
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> www.360broadband.net 
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> www.facebook.com/360Comm
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>
> *From: * on behalf of Sean Heskett <
> af...@zirkel.us>
> *Reply-To: *WISPA General List 
> *Date: *Monday, January 16, 2017 at 10:03 AM
> *To: *WISPA General List 
> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] 18 Ghz Range
>
>
>
> We've done a 6 mile link with 2' dishes without issues.  We are in NW
> Colorado so we get some wicked thunderstorms in the summertime that drop
> lots of water.  I probably wouldn't go much further than 6 miles with 2'
> dishes though.
>
>
>
> -Sean
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 7:34 AM Sam Morris  wrote:
>
> At what distance would one expect to start having attenuation issues
>
> with an 18 GHz link? Assume 2ft dishes on each end with clear Fresnel
>
> zone. (Dishes at 60ft AGL on each end in case that makes a difference)
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] Shielding FM noise with conduit?

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We put boxes every 15' or so and attach the cable inside the box.  I was
really surprised how much pull was still on that top section three years
later.  I have been considering using the cable grab pulling mesh deals, or
running a steel cable up the inside with the cables tied to it (but that
pretty much makes pulling anything else through impossible).  So for now we
keep mounting access boxes all the way up.

On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 7:45 AM, Chadwick Wachs  wrote:

> Due to the tower shape, only 30' sections would dangle. However, I used a
> water tight rubber grommet at the top (designed for this conduit) to
> squeeze and hold the cable in place. Also put a tight 90 degree turn in the
> conduit at the top to increase some friction.  Cable was also secured
> outside with ties incase the rubber grommet allowed slippage.
>
> Seems to be solid. Don't know about a full 100' dangling section though...
>
> On Sep 21, 2016 7:38 AM, "Faisal Imtiaz"  wrote:
>
>> Cool, Thanks for completing the loop.
>>
>> The one concern I would have is that inside the 100ft section, the
>> Ethernet cable would be 'dangling' without any support..
>> How did you manage to secure that ?
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>> Faisal Imtiaz
>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>> Miami, FL 33155
>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>>
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>> *From: *"Chadwick Wachs" 
>> *To: *"WISPA General List" 
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, September 20, 2016 12:10:10 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Shielding FM noise with conduit?
>>
>> Wanted to circle back on this with results.  Bought a 100' section of
>> metal lined LiquidTight at Home Depot (3/4" since I only needed 2 cables).
>> The 100' section was exactly the right length to get from the antennas all
>> the way to my cabinet in the machine room so now the cables are protected
>> in the cable trays down below as well.
>> Used hose clamps to attach the conduit to the tower every ~6 feet. Since
>> I had to make 2 90 degree turns on the way down, the flexible conduit was
>> great.  I did pull my two Ethernet wires through the conduit while it was
>> on the ground - figured that would be much easier - and it was. Cable is
>> Ubiquiti Carrier Shielded (the double shielded version).  I also added the
>> ends with the grounding cable and grounded both the top and the bottom of
>> the Ethernet to a good ground.
>>
>> Been up for about two weeks now with no Ethernet issues at all. Did not
>> put Ferrites on these two cables like all the rest of mine have.  I still
>> get an occasional Ethernet packet drop or error on the Ferrited cables. So
>> far, solid on the two cables in the LiquidTight.
>>
>> Yes, fiber is still a better long term solution but this was fairly
>> inexpensive and quick and is working great.  Thanks for the suggestion.
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 10:51 AM, Sean Heskett  wrote:
>>
>>> my bad, i was answering late in the evening, i was thinking PVC when you
>>> said EMT.  EMT will work too since it's metal but it's hard to work with on
>>> a tower.  the 3/4" liquidtight that you linked to will fit 3 cables.  we
>>> usually run 1 1/2" or 1 3/4" (i can't remember which at the moment) and you
>>> can fit 13 cables in it.  we run it up to a box on the tower and then use
>>> 3/4" to run from the box to the individual APs or backhauls.  we run the
>>> conduit first and then drop the ethernet cables down from the top.
>>> -sean
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 11:17 PM, Chadwick Wachs 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Interesting... Certainly easier to run.  Because I have to make two 90
 degree turns (damn "H" shaped tower), I think I'll pull my Ethernet through
 it on the ground and then run it up the tower with cable in it.  I'm
 guessing that cutting it and putting 90 degree elbows (with cable pull
 windows) on it is a bad idea from an RF standpoint?
 My local HD has this in stock:

 http://www.homedepot.com/p/AFC-Cable-Systems-3-4-in-x-100-
 ft-Liquidtight-Flexible-Steel-Conduit-6203-30-00/202262413

 That looks what you describe.

 I have to ask - from a physics(?) standpoint, what keeps RF out of the
 Liquidtight but not EMT?

 On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 10:46 PM, Sean Heskett  wrote:

> If you do conduit you need to use liquidtight with the metal inside.
> EMT will do nothing to stop the RF from bleeding.
> We've done it on several towers with great success.
>
> -Sean
>
> On Thursday, September 8, 2016, Chadwick Wachs 
> wrote:
>
>> With two new FM stations moving onto the tower I am on, I need to
>> solve the FM noise problem once and for all.  I've been using Ferrites on
>> each end of the Ethernet cable and its been pretty successful but I 

Re: [WISPA] Powercode 477 Data Grossly Inaccurate

[Jeremy Austin]

Nice tip!

On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 11:10 AM, Duncan Scott <dsc...@onlinenw.com> wrote:

> Yeah, making the full code is kind of hard given there are many
> county/tract/block codes in our coverage areal.
>
> Looking into it further, if you open chrome developer tools and then run
> a query, there will be a json response starting with
> https://tigerweb.geo.census.gov/arcgis/rest/services/
> TIGERweb/Tracts_Blocks/MapServer/2/query?f=json
>   that includes all of the details including the GeoID.
>
> Kind of convoluted, but still the easiest way I've seen to get the Geo
> ID from an arbitrary polygon.
>
> ~Duncan
>
> On 8/31/2016 11:32 AM, Jeremy Austin wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 10:06 AM, Duncan Scott <dsc...@onlinenw.com
> > <mailto:dsc...@onlinenw.com>> wrote:
> >
> > How do you export the data from TigerWeb?
> >
> >
> > Copy and paste the resulting list of block codes. (If you click on one,
> > you'll see the full Geographic Identifier, which is what the FCC wants.)
> >
> > You'll still need to prepend (I use Excel for this) the State FIPS code,
> > county, tract, and block group codes, which, depending on your
> > geography, might be complex — in my area it wasn't, as Alaskan block
> > groups are huge.
> >
> > The resulting block identifiers will look like the codes exported from
> > Powercode/Towercoverage/Sonar etc. Then you'll need the remaining
> > columns, which are delivery technology code (2 digits), residential
> > boolean, residential down, residential up, business boolean, business
> > down, business up. I believe down/up is max offered speeds, in megabits.
> > Format info is in the reference material at the 477 web interface.
> >
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Re: [WISPA] Powercode 477 Data Grossly Inaccurate

[Jeremy Austin]

On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 10:06 AM, Duncan Scott <dsc...@onlinenw.com> wrote:

> How do you export the data from TigerWeb?
>

Copy and paste the resulting list of block codes. (If you click on one,
you'll see the full Geographic Identifier, which is what the FCC wants.)

You'll still need to prepend (I use Excel for this) the State FIPS code,
county, tract, and block group codes, which, depending on your geography,
might be complex — in my area it wasn't, as Alaskan block groups are huge.

The resulting block identifiers will look like the codes exported from
Powercode/Towercoverage/Sonar etc. Then you'll need the remaining columns,
which are delivery technology code (2 digits), residential boolean,
residential down, residential up, business boolean, business down, business
up. I believe down/up is max offered speeds, in megabits. Format info is in
the reference material at the 477 web interface.

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Re: [WISPA] Powercode 477 Data Grossly Inaccurate

[Jeremy Austin]

On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 4:11 PM, Chris Fabien <ch...@lakenetmi.com> wrote:

> We were getting like 20 blocks from powercode when we should have several
> hundred...
>

I found it fairly simple to use TIGERweb (a census GIS) which has a query
tool, to draw some shapes and spit out the list of census blocks. A little
munging in Excel… and voila.

https://tigerweb.geo.census.gov/tigerweb/

Then again, I don't have widely varying service offerings or odd-shaped
territories… YMMV


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Re: [WISPA] 60 Ghz gear

[Jeremy Austin]

On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 10:43 AM, Chris Ruschmann <ch...@scsalaska.net>
wrote:

> I haven’t got the new sector up to test as they apparently don’t ship them
> with mounts…


I got a mount with at least one sector, will check the other. Still waiting
for the beefy mounts for the client radios though!


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Re: [WISPA] WTB 11 ghz link

[Jeremy Austin]

On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 8:59 AM, Gino Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> wrote:

> Just a single 30mhz channel
>

11 Ghz is usually paired channels, a high and low, right?

Mimosa B11 can do 20 Mhz. Won't be the most efficient though compared to
AF11 or other >256QAM radios.

What's your link length?

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Re: [WISPA] Baicells - who's deployed it?

[Jeremy Austin]

It does seem to be apples and oranges. The CINR vs percentage of drop do
not square with my own testing, which was ~70 locations and using iPerf
rather than something off-net.

And when I started testing 15 Mb plans and speedtest, performance was
consistent with iperf testing, with known and stable upstream capacity.

It would be great to see CINR and RSRP values for *both* testing setups.
Those translate consistently to UE performance, in my (admittedly short)
experience. And if Baicells is holding higher modulations at lower CINR
values, that would be both interesting and valuable to know.

Regardless, I look forward to further testing results. Great to see more
people getting LTE experience.

On Sat, Jun 25, 2016 at 8:22 AM, Matt Hoppes <
mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:

> Generally I agree. But none of the competitor tests, save one, even
> approached the provisioned speed.
>
>
> On Jun 25, 2016, at 09:30, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> wrote:
>
> Adding foliage and faster speeds...I mean that speaks pretty loudly.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Jun 25, 2016 9:26 AM, "Ian Fraser" <ian_fra...@gozoom.ca> wrote:
>
>>
>> This info is like comparing apples and oranges.  One with foliage and one
>> without, one with 'Max 15/2' and the other no 'speed limit set'.
>>
>> What other differences not shown here ? EPC (probably), Internet pipe
>> (maybe), Laptop and/or software used (probably), time of day (most likely),
>> duration of sampling ? (impossible to tell), test rig used ? (who knows),
>> latency (?).
>>
>> So all I can get from this is that both would not create a stable
>> connection at the same single location.
>>
>> Please publish something comparative that we can chew on, otherwise
>> what's the point ?
>>
>> Ian
>>
>>
>>
>> On 6/24/2016 12:32 PM, Rick Harnish wrote:
>>
>> Wave 2 trials are just beginning.  Here are some results of a test in
>> South Carolina on Tuesday.
>>
>>
>>
>> Test results of Baicells Nova eNodeB w/GPS and Alpha sector in
>> Reeseville, SC. Note testing dates of competitor was before foliage emerged
>> and Baicells was after foliage emerged. ‪#‎Baicells
>>
>>
>>
>> Posted on Facebook WISP Talk, WISP Pics and will soon be on the Baicells
>> Facebook page <https://www.facebook.com/BaiCells/>
>>
>>
>>
>> Respectfully,
>>
>>
>>
>> Rick Harnish
>>
>> Director of WISP Markets
>>
>> Baicells Technologies, N.A.
>>
>> Mobile: +1.972.922.1443
>>
>> Email: rick.harn...@baicells.com
>>
>> Follow us on Facebook for the latest news
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
>> <wireless-boun...@wispa.org>] On Behalf Of Daniel Mullen
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 3:18 PM
>> To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org> <wireless@wispa.org>
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Baicells - who's deployed it?
>>
>>
>>
>> +1.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> At 05:05 PM 17-06-2016, you wrote:
>>
>> >I believe the canary would say people have deployed but can not speak
>>
>> >yet :P  Watch lists and Facebook, I'm sure details will forth come very
>>
>> >soon.
>>
>> >
>>
>> >On 6/17/16 3:09 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>
>> > > Does anyone besides the guys in Amarillo have this gear deployed?
>>
>> > > Care to comment on/off list?
>>
>> > >
>>
>> > > Josh Luthman
>>
>> > > Office: 937-552-2340
>>
>> > > Direct: 937-552-2343
>>
>> > > 1100 Wayne St
>>
>> > > Suite 1337
>>
>> > > Troy, OH 45373
>>
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>>
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Re: [WISPA] Baicells - who's deployed it?

[Jeremy Austin]

On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 2:49 PM, Matthew Carpenter <
mcarpen...@amarillowireless.net> wrote:

>
> The Biacells SIM cards will only authenticate with the Biacells Core.  We
> were not given keys for those SIMs from Biacells.
> A Biacells SIM card will boot up with a Telrad 7000 UE and connect to a
> Biacells eNB and Biacells Core.
>

How about the reverse? A Telrad SIM in a Baicells UE, connecting to a
Telrad ENB/EPC? I remember some discussion about WISPA about the
attractiveness of a cheaper UE.

Then again, the next gen Telrad CPEs are ostensibly cheaper than the
7000s...

Thanks for all the compatibility testing, Amarillo -- great work.


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Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection

[Jeremy]

...but the deauth attack is the best way to capture the handshake!??  How
are we supposed to get the WPA key without the handshake??

On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 6:47 PM, Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us wrote:

 In Colorado and many other states with make my day laws you can most
 certainly be shot :-/


 On Tuesday, January 6, 2015, l...@mwtcorp.net wrote:

 On Tue, 6 Jan 2015 16:27:13 -0600 (CST)
   Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:
  A WISP doesn't own (or lease) everywhere. A company owns or leases
 their corporate space.
 
  If a Russian or Chinese spy snuck a MiFi into Lockheed Skunkworks and
 somehow passed their other forms of security, you'd be
 okay with them chugging away uploading whatever they found?
 

 If I tried to climb over the fence into a secure Lockheed facility I run
 the very real risk of being shot! humor Surely your not
 asserting that you have the same right when someone climbs over your back
 fence /humor. When National Security is asserted the
 rules change.

 The FCC has a history of being fairly draconian when they smell harmful
 interference. (I've always guessed it's personal
 to them because your playing with their toys. ;-)
 It's always a bad idea to expect to reason with a bureaucrat. It's either
 OK or not. It's all in the book.
 If you have a very deep back pocket you can try and get it in front of a
 judge and argue the merits but they
 tend to defer to the regulators.

 Larry Ash
 
 
 
  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  http://www.ics-il.com
 
  - Original Message -
 
 From: Dennis Burgess dmburg...@linktechs.net
  To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
  Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 3:09:47 PM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection
 
 
 
  While I understand your reasoning, I would disagree. If you could do
 this, for the security of a WISP, we will shut down all
 Access Points via Deauth attack that my Access Points can see. Also
 note, I am not talking for the FCC, but for what I believe is
 right, in this case, you can’t own a location or area of the wifi bands,
 therefore, you can’t cause harmful interference, and a
 deauth attack would be harmful, and interference.
 
  I can agree that you can detect it and shut it off on a port on your
 network, but you should not be able to interfere with other
 operations, regardless if it is your property or not. Maybe that’s not
 the intent from those actions, but it’s clear that if it’s
 not on your network then you can’t do much about it. Now, if they are on
 your property, sure you can tell them to turn it off or
 leave, but that’s another issue. lol
 
 
  Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc.
  den...@linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 – www.linktechs.net
 
 
 
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Mike Hammett
  Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 2:02 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection
 
 
  There is no mention of a blanket refusal. In the FCC citation, the fact
 that they're charging for Internet access is brought up
 every time the deauthing activity is.
 
  https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-329743A1.pdf
 
  https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-14-1444A1.pdf
 
  In reading that second one, they also keep bringing up that Marriott
 charged for Internet (and a lot at that).
 
  Specifically, such employees had used this capability to prevent users
 from connecting to the Internet via their own personal
 Wi-Fi networks when these users did not pose a threat to the security of
 the Gaylord Opryland network or its guests.
 
  Sounds like security is a viable defense.
 
 
 
  -
  Mike Hammett
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  http://www.ics-il.com
 
 
 
 
  - Original Message -
 
 
 From: Dennis Burgess  dmburg...@linktechs.net 
  To: WISPA General List  wireless@wispa.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 11:43:53 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection
  You cannot do it at all….
 
 
  Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc.
  den...@linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 – www.linktechs.net
 
 
 
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [ mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org ]
 On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
  Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 11:06 AM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection
 
 
  You can do it all day long within your own company. Marriott was doing
 it to force people to give them money. A company doing it
 has plenty of other reasons.
 
 
 
  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  http://www.ics-il.com
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Dennis Burgess  dmburg...@linktechs.net 
  To: WISPA General List  wireless@wispa.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 10:05:02 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection
  Note that many of these systems (rather rogue AP prevention) have been
 deemed illegal by the FCC, a hotel chain was fined 600k I
 think due to it.
 
 
  Dennis Burgess, CTO, 

[WISPA] Fort Lauderdale Service Request

[Jeremy Parr]

Can anyone provide fixed wireless to 1535 South Perimeter Road, Fort
Lauderdale? The client is looking at an LTE to Ethernet option from ATT,
but there must be some catches with that. Symmetrical or near symmetrical
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Re: [WISPA] Get ready to support customers when it comes to internet slowdown Wednesday

[Jeremy]

I'm putting up a message to contact the FCC and screening all callsthe
voicemail answering equivalent of the perpetual loading screen.  Heheheh

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 http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/09/tech/web/internet-slowdown-day/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

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Re: [WISPA] Light Duty self-support

[Jeremy]

We have a few Tycon towers like that.  They are great if you have a bucket
truck.  I feel like I'm climbing on tinfoil once I get near the top.
 Pretty sketchy...


On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 8:35 AM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote:

 Rohn does a self supporter right around 100 feet.  Customer did it himself
 a while back.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Mar 27, 2014 9:32 AM, Chris Fabien ch...@lakenetmi.com wrote:

 Who is your first call for an economical self support tower for a
 customer to clear trees?

 We typically build guyed Rohn 25 towers but this customer doesn't want
 guy wires.

 Needs to be 100ft and enough wind load to hold a small repeater site,
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Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box

[Jeremy]

We use Shireen shielded for both towers and installs.


On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Marlon Schafer (509.982.2181) 
o...@odessaoffice.com wrote:

   That says gel filled.  the other is a dry gel.

 marlon


  *From:* Kevin Owen ko...@fsr.com
 *Sent:* Friday, January 24, 2014 10:28 AM
 *To:* WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box


 Here is the product I ordered after being pointed there by Scott.



  *Outdoor CAT5e FTP Shielded - Gel Filled - Outer Jacket - 1000ft Spool*

 DC-1041



 Kevin





 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
 Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds
 *Sent:* Friday, January 24, 2014 10:23 AM
 *To:* WISPA General List
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box



 INTERESTING!

 I didn't know shireen made a shielded version. That's one reason we've
 only used the d-gel for very certain things. It's not listed on our primary
 vendor's site (streakwave).

 Thanks for the find/info!

 Josh Reynolds :: Chief Information Officer :: SPITwSPOTS
 :: Ubiquiti Certified AirMax Trainer ::

 On 01/24/2014 08:48 AM, Scott Reed wrote:

 You can get it either way, shielded or not.
 Compare them here: https://www.shireeninc.com/osc/cables/cat5e.html

  On 1/24/2014 12:43 PM, Kevin Owen wrote:

 Marlon,



 Is the Shireen Dry Gel cable also shielded?  Do you have a part/product #
 for it?


  Thanks,

 Kevin





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 [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgwireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 *On Behalf Of *Marlon Schafer (509.982.2181)
 *Sent:* Friday, January 24, 2014 4:42 AM
 *To:* WISPA General List
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box



 Have you tried the Shireen dry gel?  I'm addicted.



 Stays dry and easy to work with until it gets wet.  IF there's a problem
 that allows liquid into the cable it self seals the hole.  Pretty cool
 stuff.



 I do wish they had a better packaging system.  I really miss the rabbit
 pull mechanism that my indoor cable uses.



 marlon





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 *Sent:* Thursday, January 23, 2014 4:31 AM

 *To:* WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org

 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box



 Shireen, unshield, no gel for installations.
 Shireen, shielded, no gel for towers.

 On 1/22/2014 9:20 PM, timothy steele wrote:

 I've used shireen cable I will +1 that's good cable.. I've also heard of
 guys making there own reusable spindle holder box so you can use same cable
 for towers and installs so there is that option

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 On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 9:12 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com
 wrote:

  UBNT toughcable pro/carrier and/or Shireen is all we use

 Josh Reynolds :: Chief Information Officer :: SPITwSPOTS
 :: Ubiquiti Certified AirMax Trainer ::

 On 01/22/2014 04:30 PM, heith petersen wrote:

   Just looking for what others are using for boxed cable shielded that
 simple or easy for customer installs. We use a certain cable now, buts on
 rolls, which is ideal for towers, but a pain in the ass for installs. I
 heard UBNT stuff is better, but the partners are upset from the BS from
 earlier go arounds



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Re: [WISPA] looking to purchasing bandwidth

[Jeremy]

CL has reasonable rates for bulk BW if you go through a broker.


On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 8:18 PM, heith petersen wi...@mncomm.com wrote:

   I was looking to see if anyone could provide me with an alternate or
 additional bandwidth option in South Dakota, preferably central South
 Dakota. We currently use the areas cable company, which is great, but I
 don’t believe they are real competitive nationwide. I don’t believe any
 real major carriers provide service to the area, other than Century Link.
 Any ways if I could get some pointers that would be great

 thanks
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Re: [WISPA] Need small non-penetrating roof mount for single Nanostation + 5ft mast

[Jeremy]

Harbor Freight foam puzzle mats work alright as well for pads.  $6.99 for 4
on sale almost every week.  I'm with Josh though.  A pallet with some mats
under it works wonders.  If you find a source for the plastic pallets they
work even better.


On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 5:41 PM, wi...@metrocom.ca wrote:

 We try to stick to White Rock hens just to keep things standardized. No
 one likes to have a back order on a fowl delay things.


 Ben West b...@gowasabi.net wrote ..
  If you need, here is a close up of that 3foot tripod screwed down to the
  treated lumber base:
 
 https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-uy-dmEYKRic/TMY7XkHK6RI/AI4/tuJvBzKGcug/w909-h682-no/roof_tripod_base_small.jpg
 
  I think those are 1/4 lag screws and washers.  The hen is optional.
 
  On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Joshua Zukerman haw...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
   I like what you did here:
  
 https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-uSvf_bhcyXE/TMY6GYrz3HI/AIo/5ErZI4Y93D4/w560-h746-no/wasabinet_bolita_small.jpg
   I sort of had that thought in my mind already, but couldn't envision
 how
   to make a bottom piece to hold down the tripod. Now that I see a
 photo, I
   may run with this design.
   I can get the tripods and masts locally, plus a quick trip to the
 lumber
   store to pick up pressure treated lumber and a couple of cement blocks.
  
   Thanks.
  
  
   On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Ben West b...@gowasabi.net wrote:
  
   For ultra low-cost non-penetrating roof mounts, I've been playing
 around
   with J-Bars salvaged from discarded Dish TV equipment, mounted to a
 base
   made from scrap treated lumber and weighted down with cinderblocks.
  Then,
   I mate a vertical length of EMT conduit, 1/2 or better yet 3/4,
 using a
   couple conduit hangers.
  
   http://goo.gl/ojvZu0
   http://goo.gl/6Wu0My
  
   Maybe this can give you a general idea, although this would definitely
   have a conspicuous DIY look.  (I just try to make these things in
 batch, to
   conserve on labor.)
  
   I should note the latter photo, which might be of the most interest to
   you, is now out of date.  The wood beams making up the base were
 rearranged
   into a V shape for more width, with a metal brace spanning the
 mouth of
   the V for stiffness.  Likewise the 24inch vertical mast was
 replaced with
   a completely straight section of EMT, instead of that weird zig-zag
 piece I
   originally happened to have lying around.
  
   On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Joshua Zukerman haw...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  
   Hello list,
  
   I am setting up a PtP link between two gas stations for a client. I
 am
   going to be using two Nanostation M5 units going about 1/2mi
 diagonally
   across a highway. I'd like to mount them to a 5ft mast then to a
   non-penetrating roof mount, as the only place with clear
 line-of-sight is
   on the roof of both gas stations. Flat roof without much of a lip to
 mount
   an antenna to. All of my Google searches come up with much larger
   non-penetrating roof mounts, 3' or wider, which are designed for much
   larger and taller masts. Also very pricey, $150 or more each.
  
   Does anyone make a small non-penetrating roof mount, say 2ft square
 out
   of metal with an attachment to hold a 5ft mast or including a 5ft
 mast?
   Maybe a single cinder/cement block to weigh it down would be all
 that is
   needed. Won't ever need to go higher.
  
   Or do you have another suggestion for mounting?
  
   Thanks in advance,
  
   Josh
  
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Re: [WISPA] Need small non-penetrating roof mount for single Nanostation + 5ft mast

[Jeremy]

Skywalker has essentially the same thing for $55
http://skywalker.com/Products/Skywalker-Signature-Series-Non-Penetrating-Roof-Mount-Base-%28mast-not-included%29__SKY32816.aspx


On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 7:16 PM, Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com wrote:

 RF arnor has them for 75 dollars:

 http://www.rfarmor.com/cart/index.php?main_page=product_infoproducts_id=48

 -mike

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 30, 2013, at 18:12, Dave Hulsebus cont...@portative.net wrote:

 I used a 5 gallon bucket, a bag of quikcrete, and a pipe for a NS5 a few
 years ago on a flat roof.

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 [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgwireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 *On Behalf Of *Joey Craig
 *Sent:* Tuesday, July 30, 2013 2:04 PM
 *To:* WISPA General List
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Need small non-penetrating roof mount for single
 Nanostation + 5ft mast

  We use wood pallets with cement blocks when needed. Wood pallets are
 free for the asking most of the time from area businesses.
 On Jul 30, 2013 12:58 PM, Joshua Zukerman haw...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hello list,

 I am setting up a PtP link between two gas stations for a client. I am
 going to be using two Nanostation M5 units going about 1/2mi diagonally
 across a highway. I'd like to mount them to a 5ft mast then to a
 non-penetrating roof mount, as the only place with clear line-of-sight is
 on the roof of both gas stations. Flat roof without much of a lip to mount
 an antenna to. All of my Google searches come up with much larger
 non-penetrating roof mounts, 3' or wider, which are designed for much
 larger and taller masts. Also very pricey, $150 or more each.

 Does anyone make a small non-penetrating roof mount, say 2ft square out
 of metal with an attachment to hold a 5ft mast or including a 5ft mast?
 Maybe a single cinder/cement block to weigh it down would be all that is
 needed. Won't ever need to go higher.

 Or do you have another suggestion for mounting?

 Thanks in advance,

 Josh

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Re: [WISPA] Need small non-penetrating roof mount for single Nanostation + 5ft mast

[Jeremy]

Or you could use one of these with a mast for 17.99
http://skywalker.com/Products/Skywalker-Signature-Series-Non-Penetrating-Roof-Mount__SKY6003.aspx



On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 7:55 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Skywalker has essentially the same thing for $55
 http://skywalker.com/Products/Skywalker-Signature-Series-Non-Penetrating-Roof-Mount-Base-%28mast-not-included%29__SKY32816.aspx


 On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 7:16 PM, Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com wrote:

 RF arnor has them for 75 dollars:


 http://www.rfarmor.com/cart/index.php?main_page=product_infoproducts_id=48

 -mike

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 30, 2013, at 18:12, Dave Hulsebus cont...@portative.net wrote:

 I used a 5 gallon bucket, a bag of quikcrete, and a pipe for a NS5 a few
 years ago on a flat roof.

  --
 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
 [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgwireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 *On Behalf Of *Joey Craig
 *Sent:* Tuesday, July 30, 2013 2:04 PM
 *To:* WISPA General List
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Need small non-penetrating roof mount for single
 Nanostation + 5ft mast

  We use wood pallets with cement blocks when needed. Wood pallets are
 free for the asking most of the time from area businesses.
 On Jul 30, 2013 12:58 PM, Joshua Zukerman haw...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hello list,

 I am setting up a PtP link between two gas stations for a client. I am
 going to be using two Nanostation M5 units going about 1/2mi diagonally
 across a highway. I'd like to mount them to a 5ft mast then to a
 non-penetrating roof mount, as the only place with clear line-of-sight is
 on the roof of both gas stations. Flat roof without much of a lip to mount
 an antenna to. All of my Google searches come up with much larger
 non-penetrating roof mounts, 3' or wider, which are designed for much
 larger and taller masts. Also very pricey, $150 or more each.

 Does anyone make a small non-penetrating roof mount, say 2ft square out
 of metal with an attachment to hold a 5ft mast or including a 5ft mast?
 Maybe a single cinder/cement block to weigh it down would be all that is
 needed. Won't ever need to go higher.

 Or do you have another suggestion for mounting?

 Thanks in advance,

 Josh

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Re: [WISPA] Need small non-penetrating roof mount for single Nanostation + 5ft mast

[Jeremy]

Skywalker's $55 one doesn't have a mast but you can grab a piece of conduit
from Home Depot for ten bucks and cut in half and use one for each side.


On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 7:56 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Or you could use one of these with a mast for 17.99
 http://skywalker.com/Products/Skywalker-Signature-Series-Non-Penetrating-Roof-Mount__SKY6003.aspx



 On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 7:55 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Skywalker has essentially the same thing for $55
 http://skywalker.com/Products/Skywalker-Signature-Series-Non-Penetrating-Roof-Mount-Base-%28mast-not-included%29__SKY32816.aspx


 On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 7:16 PM, Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com wrote:

 RF arnor has them for 75 dollars:


 http://www.rfarmor.com/cart/index.php?main_page=product_infoproducts_id=48

 -mike

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 30, 2013, at 18:12, Dave Hulsebus cont...@portative.net wrote:

 I used a 5 gallon bucket, a bag of quikcrete, and a pipe for a NS5 a few
 years ago on a flat roof.

  --
 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
 [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgwireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 *On Behalf Of *Joey Craig
 *Sent:* Tuesday, July 30, 2013 2:04 PM
 *To:* WISPA General List
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Need small non-penetrating roof mount for single
 Nanostation + 5ft mast

  We use wood pallets with cement blocks when needed. Wood pallets are
 free for the asking most of the time from area businesses.
 On Jul 30, 2013 12:58 PM, Joshua Zukerman haw...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hello list,

 I am setting up a PtP link between two gas stations for a client. I am
 going to be using two Nanostation M5 units going about 1/2mi diagonally
 across a highway. I'd like to mount them to a 5ft mast then to a
 non-penetrating roof mount, as the only place with clear line-of-sight is
 on the roof of both gas stations. Flat roof without much of a lip to mount
 an antenna to. All of my Google searches come up with much larger
 non-penetrating roof mounts, 3' or wider, which are designed for much
 larger and taller masts. Also very pricey, $150 or more each.

 Does anyone make a small non-penetrating roof mount, say 2ft square out
 of metal with an attachment to hold a 5ft mast or including a 5ft mast?
 Maybe a single cinder/cement block to weigh it down would be all that is
 needed. Won't ever need to go higher.

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 Thanks in advance,

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Re: [WISPA] VoIP Taxes, Fees, Insanity

[Jeremy]

So while I am de minimus should I not be charging a USF fee?  You stated
that I cannot charge more than I pass along but if I pass along nothing
until I am at the 10K mark then am I not supposed to bill it until that
point?


On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 9:42 AM, Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.comwrote:

  On 7/28/2013 12:46 AM, Jeremy wrote:

 From what I read it seems like you can collect whatever you want directly
 from your customers but it may be considered as income and taxed as such.
 So you can't really pass it on as a direct fee and bypass your income tax
 liability for it.


 No.  Federal billing rules say that you cannot collect more on your retail
 bill for FUSF than you pass along.  No markups allowed.  Most of the other
 charges can also be passed along one for one, but state rules could vary.

 But the rate is not exactly what you think.  The Federal USF rate is
 calculated as a percentage, changed quarterly (it has gone over 17%), of
 your interstate telecommunications service billing.  If you are providing
 local telephone service, that line item is not subject to USF as it is
 intrastate, not intersate.  Internet access is not subject to USF as it is
 information service, not telecommunications service.  The tax was meant to
 apply to long distance calls, which were a lot of money back in the day.

 If you are (as is the norm nowadays) providing a service that does not
 charge explicitly for interstate long distance, then you have two options.
 There is a safe harbor of 64.9%, wherein that percentage of the total
 phone package is deemed interstate.  So if you sold it for $10/month, the
 tax would be applied to $6.49 of it.  This number was computed back when
 VoIP services were primarily used as cheap dial-around long distance, not
 as primary lines, so the PIU (percentage interstate use -- this number
 comes up a LOT in telecom billing) was high.

 You can also compute what percentage of your calls are actually
 interstate, and pay USF on that percentage of the bill.  This involves
 filling out the Form 499-Q's correctly, but it is the norm nowadays.

 Bear in mind that there is a de minimis rule.  If you would owe less
 than $10k/year, then you only file Form 499-A (annual, vs. quarterly), and
 don't pay anything.  BUT you then are treated as a retail customer of your
 wholesale provider(s), and *they* collect USF on what they bill you.  If
 you are no de minimis, and do actually pay USF, then you tell that to your
 providers, who have to verify it against FCC records, and then they don't
 charge you USF.  It's sort of like a retailer's exemption on sales tax;
 it's only collected once.  Note that this whole system is on the docket at
 the FCC and they're still thinking about how to revise it, but don't seem
 to have a consensus, so they're just putting it off.



 On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 10:26 PM, Chris Fabien ch...@lakenetmi.comwrote:

 That looks about right, it varies by state/locality of course. We collect
 Federal USF, State use tax, state and county E911. The USF you get to
 pocket until your required contributions are $10k/year - under that you are
 considered de minimus and just have to file the annual form.

  When we set up our billing the Telecom Relay Fund passed under our
 radar so now we're just paying for that out of pocket. I'm not sure if you
 are allowed to collect that specifically from your customers as well.


  On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 12:20 AM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote:

I am attempting to figure out all of the taxes for VoiP and the main
 thing that has me confused is the Universal Service Fund.  It seems that my
 state (Utah) has a USF of 0.45% 
 http://www.psc.state.ut.us/utilities/telecom/documents/Rule%20746-360%20amendment.rtf


  Then it also seems like the Feds want 15.1%??  That is huge!
 http://www.fcc.gov/encyclopedia/contribution-factor-quarterly-filings-universal-service-fund-usf-management-support

  Then there is sales and use tax of
 *State Sales  Use -* 4.7%
  *Municipality Sales  Use - *varies - see
 http://tax.utah.gov/salestax/rate/13q3combined.pdf

  Then we have E911:

 *E911 State -* .08
 *E911 County -* .61
  *Poison Control -* .07
 *---*
  *Total for E911 -* .76

  Then, since October 2011 we are also liable for the *Telecommunications
 Relay Fund* - .06
  http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-11-150A1.pdf

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Re: [WISPA] VoIP Taxes, Fees, Insanity

[Jeremy]

Josh - $21.95 residential and $29.95 business.


On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 5:06 PM, Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.comwrote:

  On 7/28/2013 2:20 PM, Jeremy wrote:

 So while I am de minimus should I not be charging a USF fee?  You stated
 that I cannot charge more than I pass along but if I pass along nothing
 until I am at the 10K mark then am I not supposed to bill it until that
 point?


 Carlos has good advice -- consult a lawyer.  (I'm not a lawyer but I play
 an engineer on TV.)  I just checked with one who could not render actual
 advice.  Rather, he explained, This is one of the mysteries of USF.

 The FCC forgot about this case when they did the rules.  So the usual
 practice seems to be to collect the fees.  You might after all be passing
 them along to your wholesale provider, who is charging USF to you.  But if
 you do go over the $10k limit, then you could owe retroactively, and in
 that case you want the money in the bank!  So unless they've clarified this
 in the instructions on the Form 499s (be warned; they do that sometimes,
 and you don't know the rule until you read the new fine print), you can
 pass along the fee you would be collecting under safe harbor, and apply it
 to the USF charges you're being hit with.

 I don't think these crazy fees are a reason to avoid voice services, but
 they are a pain to administer.  The FCC is terrible about writing clear
 rules.



 On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 9:42 AM, Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.comwrote:

  On 7/28/2013 12:46 AM, Jeremy wrote:

 From what I read it seems like you can collect whatever you want directly
 from your customers but it may be considered as income and taxed as such.
 So you can't really pass it on as a direct fee and bypass your income tax
 liability for it.


  No.  Federal billing rules say that you cannot collect more on your
 retail bill for FUSF than you pass along.  No markups allowed.  Most of the
 other charges can also be passed along one for one, but state rules could
 vary.

 But the rate is not exactly what you think.  The Federal USF rate is
 calculated as a percentage, changed quarterly (it has gone over 17%), of
 your interstate telecommunications service billing.  If you are providing
 local telephone service, that line item is not subject to USF as it is
 intrastate, not intersate.  Internet access is not subject to USF as it is
 information service, not telecommunications service.  The tax was meant to
 apply to long distance calls, which were a lot of money back in the day.

 If you are (as is the norm nowadays) providing a service that does not
 charge explicitly for interstate long distance, then you have two options.
 There is a safe harbor of 64.9%, wherein that percentage of the total
 phone package is deemed interstate.  So if you sold it for $10/month, the
 tax would be applied to $6.49 of it.  This number was computed back when
 VoIP services were primarily used as cheap dial-around long distance, not
 as primary lines, so the PIU (percentage interstate use -- this number
 comes up a LOT in telecom billing) was high.

 You can also compute what percentage of your calls are actually
 interstate, and pay USF on that percentage of the bill.  This involves
 filling out the Form 499-Q's correctly, but it is the norm nowadays.

 Bear in mind that there is a de minimis rule.  If you would owe less
 than $10k/year, then you only file Form 499-A (annual, vs. quarterly), and
 don't pay anything.  BUT you then are treated as a retail customer of your
 wholesale provider(s), and *they* collect USF on what they bill you.  If
 you are no de minimis, and do actually pay USF, then you tell that to your
 providers, who have to verify it against FCC records, and then they don't
 charge you USF.  It's sort of like a retailer's exemption on sales tax;
 it's only collected once.  Note that this whole system is on the docket at
 the FCC and they're still thinking about how to revise it, but don't seem
 to have a consensus, so they're just putting it off.



 On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 10:26 PM, Chris Fabien ch...@lakenetmi.comwrote:

 That looks about right, it varies by state/locality of course. We
 collect Federal USF, State use tax, state and county E911. The USF you get
 to pocket until your required contributions are $10k/year - under that you
 are considered de minimus and just have to file the annual form.

  When we set up our billing the Telecom Relay Fund passed under our
 radar so now we're just paying for that out of pocket. I'm not sure if you
 are allowed to collect that specifically from your customers as well.


  On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 12:20 AM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.comwrote:

I am attempting to figure out all of the taxes for VoiP and the
 main thing that has me confused is the Universal Service Fund.  It seems
 that my state (Utah) has a USF of 0.45% 
 http://www.psc.state.ut.us/utilities/telecom/documents/Rule%20746-360%20amendment.rtf


  Then it also seems like the Feds want 15.1

[WISPA] VoIP Taxes, Fees, Insanity

[Jeremy]

I am attempting to figure out all of the taxes for VoiP and the main thing
that has me confused is the Universal Service Fund.  It seems that my state
(Utah) has a USF of 0.45%
http://www.psc.state.ut.us/utilities/telecom/documents/Rule%20746-360%20amendment.rtf


Then it also seems like the Feds want 15.1%??  That is huge!
http://www.fcc.gov/encyclopedia/contribution-factor-quarterly-filings-universal-service-fund-usf-management-support

Then there is sales and use tax of
*State Sales  Use -* 4.7%
*Municipality Sales  Use - *varies - see
http://tax.utah.gov/salestax/rate/13q3combined.pdf

Then we have E911:

*E911 State -* .08
*E911 County -* .61
*Poison Control -* .07
*---*
*Total for E911 -* .76

Then, since October 2011 we are also liable for the *Telecommunications
Relay Fund* - .06
 http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-11-150A1.pdf
http://www.psc.state.ut.us/utilities/telecom/documents/Rule%20746-360%20amendment.rtf
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Re: [WISPA] VoIP Taxes, Fees, Insanity

[Jeremy]

Accidentally hit send.  There is more!  We also have:

*Municipal Telecommunications License Tax (MTLT) - *3.5% ...this is the
tricky one.  It is never charged on a county level and is determined by the
zip+4 of the municipality.  It appears that most charge it but some don't
and unincorporated areas never do.
http://tax.utah.gov/utah-taxes/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=177#telecom
http://tax.utah.gov/salestax/rate/13q3other.pdf

So we are looking at like 25-30% tax?? Is this correct?


On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 10:20 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am attempting to figure out all of the taxes for VoiP and the main thing
 that has me confused is the Universal Service Fund.  It seems that my state
 (Utah) has a USF of 0.45% 
 http://www.psc.state.ut.us/utilities/telecom/documents/Rule%20746-360%20amendment.rtf


 Then it also seems like the Feds want 15.1%??  That is huge!
 http://www.fcc.gov/encyclopedia/contribution-factor-quarterly-filings-universal-service-fund-usf-management-support

 Then there is sales and use tax of
 *State Sales  Use -* 4.7%
 *Municipality Sales  Use - *varies - see
 http://tax.utah.gov/salestax/rate/13q3combined.pdf

 Then we have E911:

 *E911 State -* .08
 *E911 County -* .61
 *Poison Control -* .07
 *---*
 *Total for E911 -* .76

 Then, since October 2011 we are also liable for the *Telecommunications
 Relay Fund* - .06
  http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-11-150A1.pdf

 http://www.psc.state.ut.us/utilities/telecom/documents/Rule%20746-360%20amendment.rtf

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Re: [WISPA] VoIP Taxes, Fees, Insanity

[Jeremy]

From what I read it seems like you can collect whatever you want directly
from your customers but it may be considered as income and taxed as such.
So you can't really pass it on as a direct fee and bypass your income tax
liability for it.


On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 10:26 PM, Chris Fabien ch...@lakenetmi.com wrote:

 That looks about right, it varies by state/locality of course. We collect
 Federal USF, State use tax, state and county E911. The USF you get to
 pocket until your required contributions are $10k/year - under that you are
 considered de minimus and just have to file the annual form.

 When we set up our billing the Telecom Relay Fund passed under our radar
 so now we're just paying for that out of pocket. I'm not sure if you are
 allowed to collect that specifically from your customers as well.


 On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 12:20 AM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am attempting to figure out all of the taxes for VoiP and the main
 thing that has me confused is the Universal Service Fund.  It seems that my
 state (Utah) has a USF of 0.45% 
 http://www.psc.state.ut.us/utilities/telecom/documents/Rule%20746-360%20amendment.rtf


 Then it also seems like the Feds want 15.1%??  That is huge!
 http://www.fcc.gov/encyclopedia/contribution-factor-quarterly-filings-universal-service-fund-usf-management-support

 Then there is sales and use tax of
 *State Sales  Use -* 4.7%
 *Municipality Sales  Use - *varies - see
 http://tax.utah.gov/salestax/rate/13q3combined.pdf

 Then we have E911:

 *E911 State -* .08
 *E911 County -* .61
 *Poison Control -* .07
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 *Total for E911 -* .76

 Then, since October 2011 we are also liable for the *Telecommunications
 Relay Fund* - .06
  http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-11-150A1.pdf

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Re: [WISPA] shielded rj45 ends

[Jeremy]

I get mine for .08325 cents each off of Alibaba (shipped).  They work great.


On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 6:44 PM, Clay Stewart 
cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com wrote:

 Yes, after crimping any wire end pull tab out as most crimpers we have
 used compress the tab.

 We use UBNT ends with no real issues... over a thousand plus with two
 missing a single wire contact, which did cause a little time finding the
 issue... but had seen this in other brands as well.

 Hopefully you do have a tech pulllng the plugs out hard from the NSsm
 which will break the lock piece in the socket.



 On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 4:31 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
  wrote:

 Pull the tab out a bit.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
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 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Jul 23, 2013 4:26 PM, Dave Hulsebus cont...@portative.net wrote:

 **
 We found the last 3 boxes of Tough connectors we've purchased have had
 issues staying snapped into NanoBridges. They just won't snap in and work
 their way out just enough to cause failure over time. No issues with any
 other radio's - just NB's.  Has anyone else experienced this issue ?

 Dave

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 Behalf Of *Marlon Schafer (509.982.2181)
 *Sent:* Tuesday, July 23, 2013 2:30 PM
 *To:* WISPA General List
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] shielded rj45 ends

   Yes.

 There are two styles.  One has no metal shielding, the other does.  Both
 are expensive (relatively) but I’m addicted to them.  I love not having to
 worry about how far back I strip things.  Not having to worry about wires
 crossing when pushed into the connector (I can check them before crimping)
 etc.

 http://ezrj45.com/ezrj45plugs.php?gclid=CLSDvLWfxrgCFWXZQgodwlQANg

 Marsh cable stocks them.

 marlon


  *From:* Kevin Owen ko...@fsr.com
 *Sent:* Tuesday, July 23, 2013 11:21 AM
 *To:* WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] shielded rj45 ends


 Do they support shielded cabling?

 

 Kevin

 

 

 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
 Behalf Of *Marlon Schafer (509.982.2181)
 *Sent:* Tuesday, July 23, 2013 11:14 AM
 *To:* WISPA General List
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] shielded rj45 ends

 

 We love the EZ-RJ45 units.  Get them from Marsh Cable.

  

 It’s the style where the wires go right through the ends of the
 connectors and the crimper crimps and cuts at the same time.  HUGE time
 saver.

  

 marlon

  

  

 *From:* heith petersen wi...@mncomm.com 

 *Sent:* Tuesday, July 23, 2013 6:50 AM

 *To:* wireless@wispa.org 

 *Subject:* [WISPA] shielded rj45 ends

  

 I was curious what shielded ends members are using. I typically use the
 cable that Cayman wireless sells, definitely not tough cable. I prefer the
 UBNT tough ends as I have no issues with them, however some of my techs
 dread them. I have purchased some other ends in the past but at a high
 premium. Anyways just looking for some ideas as I am getting out voted on
 the tough ends.

  

 thanks

 heith
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Re: [WISPA] network password manager

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Agreed, even flat text files will work.

Personally, I've always preferred LDAP, as many other applications and devices 
we have deployed can make use of the same LDAP backend for centralized 
authentication (e.g. basic web applications such as Cacti and Dokuwiki as well 
as network devices from various vendors such as our Barracuda). There are 
plenty of applications that also support using SQL as a datastore, but they may 
require that you adhere to a specific schema.

LDAP, in my opinion, gives me the greatest flexibility.

As always, YMMV, best tool for the job, etc.

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On Mar 31, 2013, at 2:11 AM, Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com wrote:

 On Sat, 2013-03-30 at 19:23 -0400, Jeremy L. Gaddis wrote:
 individual user accounts via RADIUS w/ an LDAP backend is the best way 
 
 RADIUS backend doesn't matter.  Personally, I've always used SQL
 backend.
 
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Re: [WISPA] network password manager

[Jeremy L. Gaddis]

As Butch mentioned, individual user accounts via RADIUS w/ an LDAP backend is 
the best way -- for devices that support it.

For devices that don't support RADIUS/LDAP/other centralized backend and/or for 
credentials (or other sensitive data) that must be shared amongst multiple 
people, I highly recommend LastPass Enterprise:

  https://lastpass.com/enterprise_overview.php

Note that authentication is only one of the A's in AAA. The other two, 
authorization and accounting, are just as important.

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On Mar 21, 2013, at 3:04 PM, Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us wrote:

 As our network grows and we keep adding more hardware I am wondering what
 others do with passwords to all these devices.
 
 i hate having one password that works on a lot of devices but i haven't
 found a good industry practice or software tool to store all this data
 securely.
 
 I'm thinking of looking at our network as different classes of devices and
 making some kind of standard password for each device class but then make
 the specific password for the device different by adding something to the
 base class password so it would be different than all the others in the
 class.
 
 servers
 routers
 switches
 UPSs
 BHs
 APs
 etc.
 
 
 what are you guys doing?  any good tools out there?
 
 thanks,
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[WISPA] Link: The US Needs A New Spectrum Policy

[Jeremy L. Gaddis]

The US Needs A New Spectrum Policy

http://www.avc.com/a_vc/2013/02/the-us-needs-a-new-spectrum-policy-.html

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Re: [WISPA] Router Question

[Jeremy L. Gaddis]

* Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.com wrote:
 On 2/13/2013 5:19 AM, Bret Clark wrote:
  Since their's no such thing as a 150Mbps LAN/WAN ports, you need to get
  one with gigabit ports. The Mikrotik RB751G-2HnD...has 5 Gig ports and
  any port can be configured for WAN and/or LAN setups. Includes 2.4GHz
  30dBi/1000mW 802.11b/g/n wireless is you need it.  SRP is $80.
 
 Well if you want to get picky there are 150 Mbps (STS-3) ports, but 
 they're pretty obscure nowadays.  I think Cisco supports them for ATM, 
 though it may be historical, not current product.  I'm curious what the 
 application is.  Ancient Cisco stuff like that does show up on eBay at 
 pretty low prices, but anything new and under $1k or so will probably 
 only have Ethernet ports.

Well, if you want to get picky, those would actually be (if memory
serves) 155.52 Mbps and, of course, it's only called STS-3 (STS-3c,
technically) if it's an electrical carrier (an optical carrier being
referred to as OC-3c)...  but I'm sure you know all this, Fred.

While I'd certainly agree that new SONET deployments likely are few and
bar between, there's still a huge installed base out there (indeed, one
of our upstreams network is mostly SONET).

I think it's safe to say, though, that we all know what Bret meant and
that these well, *technically*, ... posts (including this one) add
nothing of value to the conversation.

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Re: [WISPA] Level3 Explosion?

[Jeremy L. Gaddis]

* Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com wrote:
 Did anyone else see an explosion on the Level3 network this morning? 
 They've been up and down all morning since around 2:30 eastern time... 
 just recovered recently.

From the e-mail notification I received from Level 3 (~13 hours before
the start of the maintenance window):

Emergency Maintenance Advisement - This maintenance is scheduled.

... and ...

Level 3 Communications will perform a mandatory network upgrade that
will be service impacting and will impact devices in multiple locations.
We are upgrading the code on portions of the global network to increase
stability for the overall network. During this maintenance activity
customers may be impacted for approximately 30 minutes.

My own guess is that they wanted to quickly get their gear upgraded so
that they weren't caught with their pants down like the last time such a
vulnerability was announced. In that case, someone posted (previously
unknown) exploit details to the full-disclosure mailing list, forcing
many to to delay patching any longer:

  http://seclists.org/fulldisclosure/2010/Jan/136

On a side note: if you ever want to receive a ton of hate mail from
engineers at large companies and telcos, that's a good way to do it.

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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers

[Jeremy L. Gaddis]

* Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.com wrote:
 At 10/12/2012 10:23 AM, Tim Densmore wrote:
 There's a real market gap not quite being filled by our usual WISP 
 vendors MT and UBNT.  MT has a new CPE router with SFP support.  This 
 would be great for a regional CE fiber network.  Let's say you have a 
 building (say, Town Hall) with multiple tenants in it, each with a 
 separate IP network (say, Town administration, Police, and School 
 Admin).  You'd want to be able to drop off one fiber with separate 
 VLANs (virtual circuits) for each network, isolating the traffic from 
 each other.  An MEF switch is cheaper than a real Cisco router but a 

I can't speak to Ubiquiti but Mikrotik RouterOS certainly supports MPLS
and VPLS (and LDP and OSPF and BGP).

The design you describe is exactly what the majority of the
world is using MPLS VPNs for -- utilizing, of course, LDP and BGP (and
occasionally OSPF between CE and PE).

Unless I'm missing something...

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Re: [WISPA] EOIP/GRE Performance

[Jeremy L. Gaddis]

* Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote:

[snip]

 The cable connections are normally 50Mb/s down, 5Mb/s up.
 If I run a bandwidth test inside the tunnel, I can only get 25-30Mb/s down.
 Outside the tunnel, It does the full 50Mb/s.
 
 This is the same for every cable connection we have. They are all terminating
 back to a RB493G in our rack sitting on GigE. I can even run multiple 
 bandwidth
 tests to all of the locations and get an aggregate of 200Mb/s but no more 
 then
 25-30 to any single endpoint.
 
 And ideas?

Does the latency increase on your throughput tests inside the tunnel?

Are you considering fragmentation/MTU issues?

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Re: [WISPA] Future of Wifi Offloading WAS: Ericsson is buying BelAir, betting on Wi-Fi

[Jeremy L. Gaddis]

On Jan 26, 2012, at 11:22 PM, John Scrivner wrote:
 Here are my predictions based partly upon the acquisitions we have
 seen of Atheros by Qualcomm and now this latest play into Wifi by
 otherwise generally licensed zealots of the mobile world:

[snip]

 I predict we'll see all this come to pass by 2017-18. We'll see how
 clear my crystal ball is in a few years. I hope you guys will remember
 this then and be sure to pull it up and make fun of me for being so
 far offor not!:-)

I predict you'll see it well before that.

Someone else in the thread mentioned Comcast and Time Warner planning to roll 
out thousands of access points. Remember that both of these companies are also 
in the cellular game now.

What's (one of) the biggest problem(s) cellular carriers are facing right now? 
The explosion in data traffic.

They *need* to offload as much data traffic off of their networks as they can. 
They simply cannot handle the projected long-term growth in data traffic.

Enter 802.11u.

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Re: [WISPA] FS: Patton RAS

[Jeremy Parr]

These are pretty nice dialup RAS boxes if anyone still has dialup
(why?!?!) out there.

On 1/6/12, Ryan Ghering rgher...@gmail.com wrote:
 I too have 6 of these I would love to sell or trade off.

 Contact me offlist or call me on my cell

 Ryan

 On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 9:42 AM, Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote:

 Patton 2996 RAS

 Contact me OFFLIST with offer if interested.



 
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Re: [WISPA] Oldie but goody

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On 22 December 2011 19:03, Jim Patient jpati...@linktechs.net wrote:

 We put this 532 up in March 2006. Let ‘er eat J

 ** **

 [linktechs@tucker] /system resource pr

uptime: 53w11h39m44s

   version: 3.24

   free-memory: 15492kB

  total-memory: 29972kB

   cpu: MIPS 4Kc V0.10

 cpu-count: 1

 cpu-frequency: 330MHz

  cpu-load: 6

free-hdd-space: 89256kB

   total-hdd-space: 126976kB

   write-sect-since-reboot: 367747

  write-sect-total: 858828

bad-blocks: 0

 architecture-name: mipsle

board-name: RB532


53 weeks?

snip uptime is 6 years, 8 weeks, 1 day, 8 hours, 31 minutes
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Re: [WISPA] Splitters with Motorola Canopy 320 - Results Update

[Jeremy Parr]

The luxul snake oil worked no better than a 6dbi omni, cost
signifigantly more, and stacked two four port splitters after a two
port splitter. It was a mess.

On 10/25/11, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote:
 Eric: The whole purpose of this test was to create an omni effect.
 You're talking about something totally different, and I have often
 wondered that as well.  I think there was a company that did this a
 long time ago, Luxul maybe?  You would buy their antenna array..and
 they claimed a lot but nothing materialized out of it AFAIK.

 Jim: I don't have the data sheets for them, actually they (my techs)
 assembled everything while I was in Vegas.

 We've gone ahead and converted more clients over to it today, and
 speeds/latency are just the same when it was one sector.

 Regards,
 Chuck



 On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Eric Rogers ecrog...@precisionds.com
 wrote:
 I have often wondered if it would be better to have two antennas in one
 given direction, with one being \ pol and the other antenna being used for
 /
 pol.  I wondered if special diversity would allow us to achieve better
 penetration results to clients without using splitters.



 Basically order the two of the standard moto antennas, but use one
 polarity
 on each.



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 Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 2:49 PM
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 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Splitters with Motorola Canopy 320 - Results Update



 You are not really talking a phased array here.  Lengths should not be
 critical.

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 From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] Splitters with Motorola Canopy 320 - Results Update
 Date: Tue, Oct 25, 2011 2:39 pm


 Premades?  Or did you make your own and get as close as humanly possible?

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 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
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 Suite 1337
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 On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 1:55 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote:
 It is my understanding that they need to be of the same length.  That
 was our design, all the same length...we used 18 LMR 240 for this
 situation.

 Regards,
 Chuck



 On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Kristian Hoffmann kh...@fire2wire.com
 wrote:
 Do you have a reference for calculating the proper cable lengths and
 antenna spacing based on frequency when using splitters in a
 configuration like this?

 Thanks,

 -Kristian

 On 10/25/2011 06:39 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote:
 I thought I would post back on here what we did and our results.
 These are preliminary.

 Equipment:
 1 x 320AP

 Configuration with only one sector:
 Power set to 19.9dB (per the manual for legal power settings)
 AP set to -65 power leveling
 Client signals at the AP were -65 (or thereabouts, this fluctuates
 from -65 to -70) for all clients.
 Client receive levels ranged from -61 to -75.

 Equipment:
 1 x 320AP
 4 x 16.5dB 90 degree sectors
 2 x 4 way splitters from L-Com

 Configuration with only one sector:
 Power set to full 25dB (per the manual for legal power settings,
 assuming a -6.5dB of loss)
 AP set to -65 power leveling
 Client signals at the AP were -65 (or thereabouts, this fluctuates
 from -65 to -70) for all clients.
 Client receive levels ranged from -64 to -78.

 So essentially by adding a 4 way splitter the clients receive levels
 increased by about 3.5-4dB.  Tower receive levels were unchanged, as
 most of the clients were power leveled down.  Only one client is
 transmitting at full power now.  That client is also the highest
 signal on both sides.  Most client transmit levels are also running at
 a higher power now as well.

 Conclusion:
 I think that running 1 x 320AP x 4 sectors through splitters is a
 little aggressive.  If the majority of your clients are going to have
 decent signal levels, then I see no problems with it.  However, I
 think that our current situation is a little on the edge.  I think
 that if you are looking for an inexpensive way to use 320AP's, I would
 recommend this solution.  I think that this solution has a higher net
 gain over using an 8dB omni.  My results show that it is pretty
 consistent on being about a total loss of about 8dB using a 4 way
 splitter.  You can overcome 6.1dB of that loss in turning up the
 transmit power of the radios.   Your net loss is about 2.5-3dB,
 however you are able to focus the sectors a little better.

 In the long run on future deployments, we will likely use 2 AP's and 4
 sectors with 4x2way splitters (MIMO).  Once they reach capacity, we'll
 add additional AP's.

 Regards,
 Chuck



 
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Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ?

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On 2 August 2011 16:32, Matt Larsen - Lists li...@manageisp.com wrote:

 I have had a 3 mile 24ghz Ligowave link up for two years with very
 little rain fade - maybe 15 minutes worth in the past two years.


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Re: [WISPA] Seasickness guaranteed (no password)

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Oh shit! Someone is stealing the rig!

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Re: [WISPA] Wireless Digest, Vol 43, Issue 24

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On 27 July 2011 04:35, Akinlolu C. Ajayi-Obe, aajayi...@as-technologies.com
 wrote:

 I have a windows sbs 2008 network. I'm wondering if I can use it to
 restrict access to the internet as well as other resources for users.


Probably yes. You need to purchase a product called WinGate though and
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Re: [WISPA] 8 line ATA

[Jeremy Parr]

The cisco small business (read: linksys) ones aren't too bad. There
is much better stuff out there, like audiocodes, but the price
increase is dramatic.

On 7/27/11, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote:
 Looking for a 8 line reliable ATA, any recommendations?

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Re: [WISPA] just installed a Huawei...

[Jeremy Parr]

On 26 July 2011 09:46, Jeff Broadwick - Lists jeffl...@att.net wrote:

 That's how they started out...even used the same model numbers initially.
 Cisco proved it because known IOS bugs were present in the Huawei OS!  The
 settlement precluded Huawei from marketing in the US for some period of
 time...not sure if/when that ends.

 More recently, they licensed 3COMs router OS, so they should be legit.

 For those who care, they are heavily subsidized by the Chinese government.


For what its worth, I just installed one of their SANs from the
Symantec-Huawei joint venture. The interface isn't quite as polished as the
LSI software OEMed by Dell and IBM for their SANs, or the Equalogic
interface, but it is functional. Certainly doesn't appear to be stolen or
copied from anyone else, it has its own bugs! General build quality and
performance are quite nice though, even with the shortcomings of the
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Re: [WISPA] Attenuation of polycarbonate or acrylic at 5.8Ghz?

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On 25 May 2011 18:45, Tom Sharples tsharp...@qorvus.com wrote:

 Subject: Attenuation of polycarbonate or acrylic plastic?


 Hi, we're building a wireless video observation system for a lumber mill
 loading area.
 This is an extremely rough-duty environment with huge logs swinging around,
 and any exposed antennas, cameras, etc. would shortly be smashed to bits.
 We're thinking of installing everything in a 1.5 ft. diameter thickwall
 steel pipe, and installing our required 5.8Ghz panel antenna flush with the
 end of the pipe, covered with a 2 thick piece of polycarbonate or acrylic.
 The link only needs to work at a distance of around 150 feet. However I
 can't find much info on-line about the RF attentuation of clear plastic
 materials (or if it's even enough to matter) at 5.8Ghz. Anyone out here
 ever
 had to do something like this?


Put the stuff in a microwave. If it warms up, it'll attenuate the signal, if
it stays cold, you have a perfectly RF transparent material.



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Re: [WISPA] alvarion question.

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On 16 May 2011 14:05, Eric Roth er...@webjogger.net wrote:

 Good Afternoon,

 I have a question about an Alvarion BreezeAccess VL/AU-SA. Does anyone
 know if there is a way to find out how much bandwidth an access point can
 manage?


1. It depends.

2. Not very much.



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Re: [WISPA] SonicWall Proxy-ARP

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Friends don't let friends use sonicwalls.

On 4/13/11, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote:
 Anyone know how to turn this off? We can't find the setting.

 Had an issue where the SonicWall answered ARP requests from our edge router
 for about 150 IP's

 apparently I'm not the first.

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Re: [WISPA] Verizon 4G LTE - WOW - update

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All this talk of speedtests over mobile networks got me interested. Here are
my results.

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Re: [WISPA] Colo DNS

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On 5 April 2011 17:00, Jason Hensley ja...@hensleycrew.com wrote:

 I know this is a bit OT, but…



 I’m looking for options for DNS redundancy.  In a nutshell, we have two
 datacenters in two different cities.  We need to have some redundancy for
 our publicly accessible servers.  We do NOT want to do round-robin DNS,  and
 auto-failover options are either not available or too costly at this time –
 we will make manual DNS changes as needed if our primary datacenter goes
 down.  I’m looking for some place that I can offers either a virtual server,
 or that will do DNS hosting that is located in a highly redundant facility.
 Prefer something on clustered servers in a colo center, NOT in the Dallas
 metroplex.   We want something totally independent of our two current data
 centers.



 Any recommendations?  Thanks!


We use VPS.net for offsite servers. Can't say super good things about their
reliability, but the flexibility is nice, and they seem to be getting their
act together.



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Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik rb433ah

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Update the os *and* the firmware. Two step process, if you don't have
the matching firmware loaded bad things happen.

On 4/1/11, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have a rb433ah that is acting crazy and I was hoping someone had a
 suggestion. Twice in the last two weeks it seems like the two Ethernet ports
 are locking up. I can access the router from the Internet. The lights on the
 Ethernet ports are on but it is not moving any traffic. Reboot it and it
 goes back to normal. Watchdog is not kicking off so I'm not sure where the
 problem might be. This router has been up and running since October an this
 is the first time I have seen any issues.

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Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik or ubiquiti with fiber interface?

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On 29 March 2011 13:17, Paolo Di Francesco paolo.difrance...@level7.itwrote:

 Dear members

 do you have any suggestion for mikrotik/ubiquiti devices with native
 fiber interface?


There are a number of vendors who produce x86 boxes that are designed to run
Mikrotik and have SFP ports.

http://store.wispgear.net/Complete-Systems-Mikrotik/c30_36/p324/MikroCore-1088-4X-Copper-GbE-+-4X-SFP/product_info.html



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Re: [WISPA] WAY off topic: Electric Vehicle ConversionConventionEVCCON

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On 28 March 2011 14:46, Rick Kunze rku...@colusanet.com wrote:

 At 05:53 AM 3/28/2011, you wrote:
 Is that one in a museum or something, it's in pristine condition !

 I figured some day it might come in handy.  When you LEAST expect it
 Stuart!  cackle

   Oh and I am glad you are alive.

 Why?  Did I leave the car running again?

 Rk   looking around


Please *DO NOT* leave these two alone. They require constant adult
supervision.



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Re: [WISPA] WAY off topic: Electric Vehicle Conversion Convention EVCCON

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On 25 March 2011 09:27, John Scrivner j...@mvn.net wrote:

 I am sure many of you old trimers to the ISP business remember Jack
 Rickard, founder of Boardwatch Magazine, BBSCON which became ISPCON? I am
 honored to say that Jack and I have become friends. He and I have
 brainstormed about all sorts of whackiness over the last few years.  He has
 been feverishly seeking some new thing to put his time, money and energy
 behind to rekindle that spark of innovation and creation of new and budding
 industry. He has found it in converting cars to electric. Sohistory is
 repeating itself in a way. Jack is now doing a weekly Internet TV show he
 calls the Friday Show on his website at http://evtv.me . It is free so you
 might want to check it out. He is also working on a conference for those who
 are converting their own cars to electric. Jack is still full of the same
 excitement and energy as he has always had. His new focus is interesting and
 I just wanted to share it with the rest of you. I am actually hoping to do
 my own conversion one day. I apologize that this is not really on topic for
 a wireless Internet list but I know Jack's efforts were a big part of many
 of your lives and so I thought it was appropriate to share it here.
 John Scrivner


*snip*

Don't forget about another old timer with a knack for EVs.

http://www.evalbum.com/694
http://www.evalbum.com/1044
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Re: [WISPA] OT (sort of) - Earthquakes and Solar Flares

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On 15 March 2011 10:29, St. Louis Broadband li...@stlbroadband.com wrote:

 Hi Guys,



 Ok, Tin foil hat time WISPA … (not really!)


*bug blue snip*

I think HAARP caused it.



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Re: [WISPA] nearby Cisco APs suspected of not playing nicely

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On 8 March 2011 15:35, Rogelio scubac...@gmail.com wrote:

 A wireless network was working fine until around the time a dozen or
 so Cisco APs went up nearby, and I suspect that they are doing some
 sort of rogue detection on other APs.

 My questions to the group is...

 (1) What type rogue detection does the new Cisco controller have?  (I
 don't have one handy to play with)
 (2) What exactly does it do to other APs to make associating to them
 very difficult?  (e.g. Does it immitate that other AP and not let it
 associate?)
 (3) How can I prove this?  (e.g. with a tool like Omnipeek or something)


Everything you wanted to know and then some...

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps6366/products_tech_note09186a0080b40901.shtml



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Re: [WISPA] Wireless Cameras and wireless network.

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On 8 March 2011 15:49, Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com wrote:

 I have a client that is wanting CCTV cameras to cover a large marina. Some
 of the places they want cameras are close to a 1/2 mile away. Has anyone
 used wireless cameras and a wireless network to accomplish something like
 this?

 I am thinking along the lines of using Ubiquiti Equipment in 2.4Ghz. I
 assume I need to get wireless IP camera's instead of the regular wireless
 cctv camera's that have their own sender and transmitter?

 Anyone have any ideas? I think most CCTV cable has around a 1000ft
 limitation. They want the camera's coming back to one office, but this is
 going to have to require going across water and land and up to distances
 of 1/2 mile.


Like the other poster said, most cams with built in wireless aren't so hot.
Lots of cams with little 3db omnis and no polling won't work so well.

What I have done with good success is used standard IP/Ethernet cams, and
connected them to Ubnt or MT radios with panels, and built a small ptmp
network. Depending on the size, you can also build a ring, latency isn't an
issue, as long as there is sufficient bandwidth.



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Re: [WISPA] Gigabit Router or L3 Switch?

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On 8 February 2011 12:17, Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net wrote:

 Are you sure on that?

 I'm not an expert on CISCO, and could have it wrong but, I had thought

 Known fact... Cisco 3550 (enterprise OS ver)  was an industry standard Gig
 router that also did OSPF and BGP, although now End of Lifed..
 It was easy and affordable to find on used market.  It didn't support newer
 things like MPLS packet sizes and such.

 However, I thought the 3560 was actually a newer model but also a scaled
 down version of the 3550 router. Either having less processing power or
 RAM
 limits.
 Therefore not very advantageous to get a 3560.

 I then thought the 3750 (enterprise OS ver) switch was the current day
 product equivellent to the 3550 spec, good for BGP and OSPF, but better,
 for
 example using the smaller FC iconnectors nstead of SC connectors, and
 possibly support of newer Cisco supported protocols also.

 So my question is Is the 3560 really an equivellent of a 3750 minus
 stackwise?


Correct on the stacking. The 3750 and 3560 are the exact same switch, but
one has stacking capabilities. You can turn a 3560/3750 in to a full blown
router, OSPF, BGP etc, but you aren't going to hold any external BGP tables,
for sure. Loading different SDM templates will give you up to eight routed
interfaces.

The 3550 is getting really old now, and technically has a lower powered
processor than the 3560, but does do a better job of doing ingress/egress
limiting on switchports.



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Re: [WISPA] Internet Runs Out Of IP Addresses

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On 7 February 2011 02:49, Justin Wilson li...@mtin.net wrote:

 We are not out of IPv4 addresses.  The unallocated pool is exhausted.
  There is a difference.  Think of it in terms as water from a well.

 You have all of these people bringing water up from the well (the water is
 ipv4 addresses).  These people are storing these addresses in buckets,
 bottles, etc. and distributing them to others.  One day the well runs dry.
  This does not mean you are out of water because you have all these people
 out there who have bottled water they can sell to others.  They just can't
 go back to the well and get more.  What they have is what they have.


As someone else said, the fat lady has not yet sung, but she is on stage and
the curtain is being lifted. This is a very real problem and does need to be
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Re: [WISPA] Internet Runs Out Of IP Addresses

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On 4 February 2011 16:57, Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net wrote:

 This is the kind of FUD that the world does not need.

 On 2/4/2011 1:10 PM, Data Technology wrote:
 
 http://www.informationweek.com/news/internet/policy/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=229201157cid=RSSfeed_IWK_All


How exactly is this FUD? It is a very real problem, with an equally real
solution. (says the hypocrite posting this from an ipv4 only laptop)



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[WISPA] Rackmount Mikrotik

[Jeremy Parr]

I'm in the market for a rackmount MT device. Don't care how many ports (as
long as it is two or more), just need something that can rack mount.
Internal power supply preferred, as well as front to back or side to side
cooling. What are these vendors thinking building rackmount devices with top
to bottom cooling? I'm looking at you RB1000U/RB1100U/Titan Wireless
Rackmount Case. They are about as useful as an armored tank with a rag top.



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Re: [WISPA] Rackmount Mikrotik

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On 31 January 2011 11:33, Brough Turner r...@ashtonbrooke.com wrote:

  Jeremy,  I don't understand.

  What are these vendors thinking building rackmount devices with top to
 bottom cooling?
  I'm looking at you RB1000U/RB1100U/Titan Wireless Rackmount Case. They
 are about as
  useful as an armored tank with a rag top.

 The RouterBOARD 1100s we're using have front-to-back cooling.  Am I missing
 something?
 ???


You are correct, it is the RB1000U that uses back to top cooling.

http://www.routerboard.com/index.php?showProduct=58



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Re: [WISPA] Rackmount Mikrotik

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On 31 January 2011 11:51, Titan Wireless WISPA Vendor 
wi...@titan-wireless.com wrote:

 Jeremy,

 FYI - We don't manufacture any of the devices your commenting on.  You
 should redirect your comments to the actual vendors that do if your
 unhappy with there designs.  Perhaps you should actually purchase one
 before you comment on there uselessness...


No offence to Titan Wireless guy. I buy and love your stainless steel
upgrade kits for the powder coated aluminum Mikrotik enclosures. Lots of
thought goes in to making that a quality product.

My complaint is specifically about the airflow design in the 1U case.
Rackmount devices cool front to back in a data world, side to side in a
voice world. Designing a device that tries to push air out the top, where
there will be more than likely another device located is just plain stupid.

I'll gladly pass this feedback to whatever OEM metalshop stamps these out,
but I haven't seen any identification on the site listing them.



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Re: [WISPA] A puzzle for your enjoyment...

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On 26 January 2011 01:51, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote:

 Whats wrong?

 No, its not an optical illusion lol

 Scott Carullo
 Technical Operations
 855-FLSPEED x102


I've seen this a few times with those cheap Pac-Wireless dishes. Just rotate
the ring.



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Re: [WISPA] Cisco ASA 5505

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Sounds like pppoe on your network? What pppoe concentrater are you using?

On 1/19/11, Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.com wrote:
 We have a non profit trying to use one of these routers for their
 connection. Previously they have a residential Netgear router that
 worked fine and still does. However, their IT guy can't figure out why
 their new ASA 5505 Cisco router won't connect. Same credentials and
 everything..



 I get authentication failed - radius timeout



 Plug in the old Netgear $40 router and boom connects no problem. I've
 had him try MSCHAP and CHAP and both do the same thing.



 Any help would be greatly appreciated.



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Re: [WISPA] 21 to 19 Rack Adapters

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These guys are great for all those hard to find rackmount server items.

On 12/22/10, Kristian Hoffmann kh...@fire2wire.com wrote:
 If you mean 23 to 19, then

 http://www.rackmountsolutions.net/Rackmount_Filler_Panels_Brackets.asp#REDUCER%20BRACKETS


 -Kristian

 On Wed, 2010-12-22 at 16:17 -0500, can...@believewireless.net wrote:
 Does anyone know where to get the rack adapters so you can mount
 normal 19 rackmounts in the wider racks?


 
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Re: [WISPA] 21 to 19 Rack Adapters

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Whoops, that isn't the company I was thinking of...

http://www.racksolutions.com/?ref=logo

This is.

On 22 December 2010 17:58, Jeremy Parr jeremyp...@gmail.com wrote:
 These guys are great for all those hard to find rackmount server items.

 On 12/22/10, Kristian Hoffmann kh...@fire2wire.com wrote:
 If you mean 23 to 19, then

 http://www.rackmountsolutions.net/Rackmount_Filler_Panels_Brackets.asp#REDUCER%20BRACKETS


 -Kristian

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 Does anyone know where to get the rack adapters so you can mount
 normal 19 rackmounts in the wider racks?


 
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Re: [WISPA] 21 to 19 Rack Adapters

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On 22 December 2010 18:17, Kristian Hoffmann kh...@fire2wire.com wrote:
 I was just about to order one of their modular power distribution strips
 (Power Assembly for Open Frame Rack 111).  I haven't found a better way
 to get multiple circuits cleanly into a rack.

That is cool. I love the option for putting network jacks in there as
well. Saves running patch cords vertically in the cabinet, and you
don't lose rack Us to patch panels.



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[WISPA] Your response

[Jeremy Rodgers]

  
  
Often the question from both businesses and residential customers
comes up about the future viability of wireless broadband. I am
curious on two levels. First, what is your personally opinion and
second, how do you communicate this to your customers when asked.

Any thoughts are appreciated.

-- 
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  OnlyInternet Broadband and Wireless
  O: 260.827.2234
  O: 800.363.0989
  F: 260.824.9624
  
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Re: [WISPA] Internet Backbone

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On 20 December 2010 15:51, Matt lm7...@gmail.com wrote:

 Question out of curiosity.  What does Tier1 carrier have for bandwidth
 between a couple major cities?  Say between Chicago and St. Louis?
 How many Gigabit typically?  I know it likely varies and there will be
 multiple routes but I was looking for an educated guesstimate.  I
 imagine there would need to be a good deal of surplus to cover any
 fiber cuts requiring them to route around.


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Re: [WISPA] Advice on PTP link over water?

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On 1 December 2010 16:51, Tom Sharples tsharp...@qorvus.com wrote:

 Hi, we need to install an aprox. 8 mile PTP 5.8Ghz link near the Big Island
 in Hawaii. One end will be at about 50ft MSL, while the other end is at
 about 3500ft. The first 4 miles are over water, with rest over moderately
 hilly terrain to a freestanding 50ft tower. The ends have LOS. Ordinarly
 I'd
 just use a conventional setup with a pair of 2' dish antennas and XR5
 radios, but am considering using dual-polarity feedhorns (or even separate
 dishes) and diversity or dual radios due to the water.  Is this worth the
 effort, or should we just use e.g. horizontal polarity and stick to it?
 Since the one end is much higher than the other I'm thinking this should
 mitigate water effects, but would welcome any opinions.


Eight miles over water shouldn't be a problem at all.



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Re: [WISPA] Office Phones

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On 17 November 2010 20:47, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 Does the UC520 require a T1 for voice?  And Cisco IP phones?


You can use a T1 or POTS lines, and you can get the Cisco phones, or the
Linksys ones with the Cisco stickers covering the Linksys logos.



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Re: [WISPA] Office Phones

[Jeremy Parr]

On 17 November 2010 09:30, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote:

 I had a direct Lightening hit to our office 2 weeks ago and My ATT phone
 system is now acting up and loses calls all the time.



 I am planning to go to VOX and get away from my pots lines for the most
 part.



 I would like others recommendation for a in office phone system for 5 users
 only but I need a good voice mail and ability to have cordless phones.  I
 would also like the ability to do remote transfer to a cell or a offsite
 VoIP extension.



 Last part I truthfully do not have time to spend 40 hours learning
 Asterisk.


The Cisco UC520 is amazingly affordable.



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[WISPA] Service contracts

[Jeremy Rodgers]

  
  
For years now we have required new residential customers to sign a 2
year term agreement. For competitive reasons we are evaluating
this. One barrier for us has been the length of time it takes from
contract creation to customer returning it. With our current
situation "striking while the iron is hot" is not possible as it
could take a couple of weeks for the agreement to be returned. It
is also intimidating at 6 pages long.

So...a couple questions

-How long is your customer contract (# of pages and term)
-What does your process look like
-Do your installers get the paperwork signed
-What advantages are there to a term agreement

Our thought is to possibly reduce it down to one page and reference
the Terms of Service on our website. When the new customer calls we
can schedule them right on the spot and send the paperwork with the
installer. Anything you see as a disadvantage with this?

Any input is appreciated!
-- 
  Jeremy J. Rodgers
  
  Sales Manager
  
  OnlyInternet Broadband and Wireless
  O: 260.827.2234
  
  O: 800.363.0989
  
  F: 260.824.9624
  
  
  "But as for me and my household, we will serve the LORD." Joshua
  24:15

  




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Re: [WISPA] Service contracts

[Jeremy Rodgers]

  
  
I do sign a piece of paper when signing up for new service.  Are you
suggesting doing everything electronically?

On 11/11/2010 12:56 PM, Cameron Crum wrote:
Why do paper at all? Have you ever signed a piece of
  paper when upgrading your call phone plan? 
  
  Cameron
  
  On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Jeremy
Rodgers jeremyrodg...@onlyinternet.net
wrote:

   For years now we have
required new residential customers to sign a 2 year term
agreement.  For competitive reasons we are evaluating this. 
One barrier for us has been the length of time it takes from
contract creation to customer returning it.  With our
current situation "striking while the iron is hot" is not
possible as it could take a couple of weeks for the
agreement to be returned.  It is also intimidating at 6
pages long.

So...a couple questions

-How long is your customer contract (# of pages and term)
-What does your process look like
-Do your installers get the paperwork signed
-What advantages are there to a term agreement

Our thought is to possibly reduce it down to one page and
reference the Terms of Service on our website.  When the new
customer calls we can schedule them right on the spot and
send the paperwork with the installer.  Anything you see as
a disadvantage with this?

Any input is appreciated!
-- 
  Jeremy J. Rodgers
  
  Sales Manager 
  OnlyInternet Broadband and Wireless
  O: 260.827.2234 
  O: 800.363.0989 
  F: 260.824.9624 
  
  "…But as for me and my household, we will serve the LORD."
  Joshua 24:15 
  
  
  
  

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  O: 260.827.2234
  
  O: 800.363.0989
  
  F: 260.824.9624
  
  
  "…But as for me and my household, we will serve the LORD." Joshua
  24:15

  




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Re: [WISPA] Service contracts

[Jeremy Rodgers]

  
  
Cameron, I would love to learn more about your process and how you
do this. Does the customer just visit your site and agree by
checking a box to terms and conditions? Do they fill out billing
info, etc. as well? 

On 11/11/2010 3:06 PM, Cameron Crum wrote:
Yes...everything electronically.
  
  Cameron
  
  On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 1:02 PM, jp j...@saucer.midcoast.com
wrote:
All the other service providers such as
  DSL and cable are looking to
  lock people into 2 year contracts as well. add to that
  cellular, but I
  don't really consider that a competitor, customers understand
  the
  similarities that there is a common need to get into a term
  agreement to
  have service. The advantage is that customers aren't hopping
  around
  playing musical chairs with service providers for a buck
  savings when
  the service providers spend a lot of money on their install.
  The
  customers can safely ignore all the misleading flyers they get
  from the
  cable company or phone company talking about introductory
  prices or
  prices without the fees added, at least till their contract
  period is
  winding down.
  
  We keep our contract 1 page. I'm sure a lawyer would laugh at
  it, but
  the idea is that neither party wants it to end up in lawyer's
  hands.
  Referencing the TOS on your website would be a good thing in
  saving
  paper.
  
  We do 2 year contracts for one price and 1 year for a slightly
  higher
  setup price. We track who we give them to, who gave it to them
  and when.
  We need that to be able to follow up as sometimes customers
  don't follow
  through or expect the service but lose the paperwork. We can
  email the
  customer a pdf, the installers have them printed out in the
  van for
  customers. We track when we receive them back too; if we
  receive a
  contract back and there is a big delay in the install, that is
  a problem
  we have to investigate and address. If the customer needs a
  contract for
  reference we give them an extra blank one, or offer to mail
  them a
  photocopy of the one they signed.
  
  On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 12:39:02PM -0500, Jeremy Rodgers
  wrote:
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Re: [WISPA] Tower down

[Jeremy Parr]

On 28 October 2010 08:17, Blake Bowers bbow...@mozarks.com wrote:


 http://www.fox59.com/news/bloomington/wxin-tower-falls-on-bloomington-school-102610,0,7797782.story


Is that an aluminum tower?



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Re: [WISPA] Webcam

[Jeremy Parr]

On 26 October 2010 13:20, Rafman® shortwa...@gmail.com wrote:

 I recommend Axis cameras, hands down... If you visit my LiveStream channel,
 there are some recent tower cam demos, using an Axis Q6032 PTZ @250'.

 A year ago, I became Axis certifiied  have been doing a majority of tower
 security  web commerce applications with them...

 One caveat: They love MS IE  prefer it to be used to configure them.

 Raf


I've never had a single problem using Firefox to configure Axis cameras. We
don't use Camerastation though. Our DVRs (NVRs) run OnSSI NetDVR.



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Re: [WISPA] Can't get my 100MB

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On 25 October 2010 17:55, richard sterne wireless.r...@gmail.com wrote:

 turn auto neg off. It causes me many problems.

I used to swear by this as well, but as of late you are better letting it
auto negotiate.

http://etherealmind.com/ethernet-autonegotiation-works-why-how-standard-should-be-set/

As for the speed tests, I would never expect a browser based test to
reliably give 100mb results every time. You should be running iperf, with
multiple partners (wow, that sounds dirty).



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Re: [WISPA] Looking for Bandwidth Manager

[Jeremy Parr]

Splendid idea there guy, replace Mikrotik with a Windows box. Gotta
wonder I'd the problem is between the keyboard and the chair here.

On 10/14/10, Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com wrote:
   In my mission to rid our network of Mikrotik I need to shop for a new
 bandwidth manager since mine likes to randomly drop one of the ports or
 bridge, and reset the route gateway (twice already this week).  I'm
 looking for a more friendly windows type based unit, any suggestions.

 Thanks,
 Forbes


 
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[WISPA] Referral Programs

[Jeremy Rodgers]

  
  
We are looking into creating a solid referral program. Does anyone
have input on what has worked well and what hasn't? We were
thinking of a free month of service for the new customer and
referring one. Is this too much? Any thoughts?
-- 
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  OnlyInternet Broadband and Wireless
  O: 260.827.2234
  
  O: 800.363.0989
  
  F: 260.824.9624
  
  
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Re: [WISPA] I'm pulling Mikrotik

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On 17 September 2010 04:27, Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.comwrote:

  How my day ended, I really don't mean to slight Mikrotik or it's dealers.
 People who route their networks will have a fraction of the problems I have
 but I have to admit the excuse of must be your employees or  that never
 happens got old about 20 outages ago.  Today I had 8 major outages, 4 of
 them we found a bridge or ports erased and the IP displaying 0.0.0.0.  This
 was an easy fix, log in and add the bridge and ports then click on the IP
 and it came back legitimate again.  Shame we had to make the trip to the
 towers to do that.  The other 4 not so easy, they showed the IP correctly
 but not in Winbox and they had the MAC address as 00.00.00.00.00, well 12
 times, you get it.  Those we had to pull the backhaul and reset it then
 reprogram it.  A hellish day but we didn't miss the fact that the UBNT units
 never crashed no matter what this crazy bridging issue was.  It was just a
 real bad day to be in this business but I appreciate the help that I got
 from Mikrotik dealers who really care to help resolve this but are as
 equally frustrated as I was, while aging about 3 years in one day.  Like
 watching a baby sleep the night is uneventful after a 15 hour work day and
 my with my added worry about taking 4 vacation days this weekend.  I wish I
 could trust the equipment from overreacting to every damn bit of unfriendly
 traffic by shutting down the LAN port or resetting the radio but I can't,
 it's my employees problem now but it will certainly take away from the joy
 of my time off since I know their attitude is more like, 'let them wait'
 then my feeling of 'people down is lost income', employees


What hardware do you run MT on, and what versions of the software are you
using?



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Re: [WISPA] Commercial rooftop - Tripod

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On 8 September 2010 12:53, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:

  I am looking to install a tripod on a commercial rooftop.  It's the
 style with the metal framing (3' or larger spans) and just insulation
 and the roofing material between.

 What do you guys do when you have to setup a tripod on such a roof?  Two
 legs could probably be secured to the metal framing, but what to do with
 the 3rd leg is what puzzles me.

 I have installed on this type of roof before, but it was with a DSS
 mount.  I just sucked the 2 bolts holding the DSS down tight and used
 nuts and lock washers on the back side.  I may have left the remaining
 holes unsecured.  I seriously doubt I could do the same thing with a
 tripod.


Bolt Unistrut to each foot of the tripod, rotate the tripod so that the
Unistrut is perpendicular to the metal roof, and screen in to the ridges
with sheet metal screws.



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Re: [WISPA] OT: Looking for Layer 3 Switch with BGP?

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On 8 September 2010 17:31, Matt Jenkins m...@smarterbroadband.net wrote:

 I am trying to find a Layer 3 switch that has 24 or 48 1000 base-T ports
 with enough RAM to handle Full BGP Internet Routes. Anyone have any
 suggestions?

 For those who wonder why I am upgrading all of my backhauls to
 support ~300mbps. In addition I need to be able to offer BGP connections
 to customers from this ring of backhauls.


You don't necessarily need the switch to run BGP. You can have your custom
add a static route or two to reach a BGP peer on your network. This is
actually common practice, rather than peering directly with the providers
customer facing access switch.



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Re: [WISPA] RIP vs other routing protocols

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On 2 September 2010 14:25, Jeff Broadwick - Lists jeffl...@att.net wrote:

 Agreed...there are some old routers that don't support OSPF though.  Nortel
 is one (or at least was).


If you have a device old enough to only support RIP, said device should be
discarded. Seriously. Get off of RIP and migrate to OSPF.



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Re: [WISPA] RIP vs other routing protocols

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On 2 September 2010 16:38, Mark Nash - Lists markl...@uwol.net wrote:

  We know how to avoid routing loops.  As I said before, RIP has been
 around for decades and I know it well.

 Our engineer wants to get us into OSPF, which I have no experience with and
 don't understand.  Since I don't really have anything to do with the
 operation of my business anymore, it's likely that I will never understand
 OSPF and that's why I'm having a problem.

 It's philosophical.  I have felt in the past like my hands were tied when
 one person knew things about my network that I didn't know.  I don't like
 that feeling.  I know that I can do RIP.  I can fix whatever goes wrong if I
 need to.

 If it's stable and works like it should ;)


Not to be snide, but you are probably the only person who still knows rip.
;-P



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Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

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On 30 August 2010 12:07, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote:

  Whats the IP’s to block so my customers can’t use Netflix and Hulu.


So you are no longer going to be an Internet provider, and instead just be a
Hotmail and CNN.com provider?



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Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.

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On 31 August 2010 08:48, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote:

 Trango or SAF licensed 11 Ghz


Earl didn't get you? I figured you'd be swamped.



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Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?

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On 24 August 2010 02:15, Matt Larsen - Lists li...@manageisp.com wrote:

  I have a need for about ten 2U/4U rackmount servers.All will be
 running Linux, so 4gig RAM, 2ghz or better CPU and ATA drives are
 preferred.   Does anyone one the list have recommendations?


Buy a new Dell (or factory refurb) and virtualize everything.



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Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?

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On 24 August 2010 13:02, Kevin Sullivan kevin.sulli...@alyrica.net wrote:

  What is everyone doing for VM storage?

Internal drives on small sites (prefer Raid 1 if possible, easier to recover
in the event of a controller failure) and iSCSI for larger sites. The Dell
MD3000i is a good bang for the buck if you need a single vendor solution, if
you are pinching pennies but still want a SAN, Promise makes some decent
iSCSI boxes with redundant controllers that will multipath.



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