Re: [WISPA] VoIP - Who is using successfully?
You'll want to make sure you're tagging the Voip traffic with a DSCP tag. So the UBNT gear will give it a dedicated timeslot. This should improve the call quality if your issue is related to the RF side. If your issue is your connection to Vitelity, Or something else in the path, It won't make much of a difference. Off question.. Does anyone know if MT Radios do any type of automatic classification like airmax does as part of Nstream? Can this be changed with DSCP tags? Or would you have to just mark the DSCP tags and queue it yourself on the link? Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Matt Brendle mattagator.mailingli...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 4:10 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoIP - Who is using successfully? Nope. Public IP on the CPE. CPE is set to router mode and then we are doing DMZ to the ATA. Customer router sits behind ATA so local QOS is being handled by the ATA. I am doing traffic shaping in the CPE, but with VoIP customers we disable bursting. Other than that I don't do any prioritizing. -Matt From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 4:00 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoIP - Who is using successfully? Is the VOIP traffic encapsulated in any way, such as EoIP, PPPoE, etc? If so, AirMax will not be able to prioritize it correctly, assuming the correct DSCP value is assigned to the traffic to begin with. Josh Reynolds, CIO SPITwSPOTS www.spitwspots.com On 07/31/2014 11:56 AM, Matt Brendle wrote: So a question for the masses. We are selling VoIP services and the number of Support Calls we get about poor performance is more than I would expect. Our basic setup is UBNT backhauls and APs, Mikrotik infrastructure routers, and CISCO/Linksys ATAs. Primarily Vitelity accounts. We get complaints of choppiness and other issues, and I wanted to see what others are using successfully. I am currently making a test procedure to try to find out where the issue is, but if anybody has success stories and example setups that would be great. I know that is a rather broad question, but I want to make this work and get our Support Calls down. Matt - NC Wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] OT Fax over Voip
I've seen pretty good luck with T38 for faxing over VOIP. Obviously, This only works for faxing. Not alarms..etc. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: wi...@mncomm.com Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 10:04 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] OT Fax over Voip I have a customer that we installed an IP phone system for. They moved their office to a new building where the telco couldn't or wouldn't bring service to. So I have the PBX at their old location where the COs come in and we go over a wireless link to the new office where they use their internet and IP phones, and all works great. So their fax machine sits at their old location and they want it in their new location. They are not interested in doing Internet fax at this time, but I may have to introduce it again. A while ago we bought some Grandstream gateway devices. We have them configured correctly and they transmit and receive voice just fine, just no fax. So, the scenario would be the CO goes into a gateway device to convert to digital, goes over the LAN to the other gateway device. That device hooks up to the fax machine. If someone has done this before can you share the products you may have used? The products we have say they will work this way, but no luck, just voice transmission. I may have a bad device as well. Also, is there any internet fax services that allow users to use their existing fax machine? I know it's a little weird to ask that, but some people have a hard time with change using their PC to send faxes thanks heith mnwireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
Been dealing with Google Apps for education support on an email issue most of yesterday. They've proven to be completely useless thus far. /2cents Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Mac Dearman li...@inetsouth.com Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 8:48 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting Well... I have never had a problem with godaddy and we take care of the customer support. Everything the sub needs is provided for them in their webmail home page. Mobile email setup, outlook, Iphone, droid...etc is all just a hyperlink and its done. It has been too easy. I didn't say it was free :-) , but it sure is sweet Mac -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 3:32 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting Wow, I went through a nightmare with a customer who was using GoDaddy... We switched them to gmail and they are happy now.. They got NO help from GoDaddy... around and around they went.. Both on our network and charter so was able to eliminate that as the problem.. On 03/06/2014 01:14 PM, Mac Dearman wrote: We have been outsourcing email/hosting..etc to GoDaddy for 26 months now and I can honestly say that it has been a real relief for us. Their spam solution has been good as well. We pay about .60 cents a month per sub, but they have really nice webmail. YMMV, GL Mac -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 12:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting We are using tucows/opensrs. The antispam isn't as good as Postini was. But we fired Postini/Google when I found out that they spy on the customer's communications. Tucows doesn't. About how much is Tucows per box? ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4335 / Virus Database: 3705/7159 - Release Date: 03/06/14 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4335 / Virus Database: 3705/7159 - Release Date: 03/06/14 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
Irish? No. Both foreign (Unknown origin) but not Irish for sure. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 9:07 AM To: n...@flhsi.com Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting Did you talk to the Irish people? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 7, 2014 9:01 AM, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote: Been dealing with Google Apps for education support on an email issue most of yesterday. They've proven to be completely useless thus far. /2cents Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Mac Dearman li...@inetsouth.com Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 8:48 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting Well... I have never had a problem with godaddy and we take care of the customer support. Everything the sub needs is provided for them in their webmail home page. Mobile email setup, outlook, Iphone, droid...etc is all just a hyperlink and its done. It has been too easy. I didn't say it was free :-) , but it sure is sweet Mac -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 3:32 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting Wow, I went through a nightmare with a customer who was using GoDaddy... We switched them to gmail and they are happy now.. They got NO help from GoDaddy... around and around they went.. Both on our network and charter so was able to eliminate that as the problem.. On 03/06/2014 01:14 PM, Mac Dearman wrote: We have been outsourcing email/hosting..etc to GoDaddy for 26 months now and I can honestly say that it has been a real relief for us. Their spam solution has been good as well. We pay about .60 cents a month per sub, but they have really nice webmail. YMMV, GL Mac -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 12:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting We are using tucows/opensrs. The antispam isn't as good as Postini was. But we fired Postini/Google when I found out that they spy on the customer's communications. Tucows doesn't. About how much is Tucows per box? ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4335 / Virus Database: 3705/7159 - Release Date: 03/06/14 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4335 / Virus Database: 3705/7159 - Release Date: 03/06/14 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
Darn, And here I thought you had some kind of Google Apps secret for me. Like Talk to the Irish people, They're the competent ones. Granted, That would've been an awkward phone call. Can I speak to.. The .. Irish... people? Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 9:36 AM To: n...@flhsi.com Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting Well I'm bad at my foreign accents. I thought I read Scottish or Irish. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 7, 2014 9:09 AM, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote: Irish? No. Both foreign (Unknown origin) but not Irish for sure. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 9:07 AM To: n...@flhsi.com Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting Did you talk to the Irish people? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373On Mar 7, 2014 9:01 AM, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote:Been dealing with Google Apps for education support on an email issue most of yesterday. They've proven to be completely useless thus far. /2cents Nick Olsen Network Operations(855) FLSPEED x106 From: Mac Dearman li...@inetsouth.com Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 8:48 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting Well... I have never had a problem with godaddy and we take care of the customer support. Everything the sub needs is provided for them in their webmail home page. Mobile email setup, outlook, Iphone, droid...etc is all just a hyperlink and its done. It has been too easy. I didn't say it was free :-) , but it sure is sweet Mac -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 3:32 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting Wow, I went through a nightmare with a customer who was using GoDaddy... We switched them to gmail and they are happy now.. They got NO help from GoDaddy... around and around they went.. Both on our network and charter so was able to eliminate that as the problem.. On 03/06/2014 01:14 PM, Mac Dearman wrote: We have been outsourcing email/hosting..etc to GoDaddy for 26 months now and I can honestly say that it has been a real relief for us. Their spam solution has been good as well. We pay about .60 cents a month per sub, but they have really nice webmail. YMMV, GL Mac -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 12:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting We are using tucows/opensrs. The antispam isn't as good as Postini was. But we fired Postini/Google when I found out that they spy on the customer's communications. Tucows doesn't. About how much is Tucows per box? ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4335 / Virus Database: 3705/7159 - Release Date: 03/06/14 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4335 / Virus Database: 3705/7159 - Release Date: 03/06/14 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
For this particular customer. We/they filter their incoming mail through a Barracuda spam filter. From there it's forwarded to Google Apps. Well recently $CUSTOMER has been bouncing around a TON of internal email due to sending internal distribution lists. Then people reply all the message, Spawning another 300+ emails. So the key here. Is that google apps. Even for internal user to user mail. Does an MX lookup and sends the mail to whatever it gets back. So even their internal mail gets looped through our barracuda filter. Well, Mail started to stack up in the barracuda getting rejected by google SMTP for exceeding the users rate limit. Which is apparently 180 messages a minute, 3600 an hour. Or 86,400 a day. Google swears this is per-user. Not per domain. Or per sending IP. But it appears that's incorrect. As no one user has received that much mail. The domain as a whole has. As well as a single sending IP (Our barracuda) exceeded that limit. After about an hour on the phone with support. They asked me to send them headers. Only to reply four hours later with a carbon copy of the error message I was already given in the SMTP session (http://support.google.com/mail/answer/6592). Guess we'll see how they respond to my follow up email. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 9:44 AM To: n...@flhsi.com Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting Eh If you can't fix my problem find someone who can. What is the issue? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 7, 2014 9:40 AM, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote: Darn, And here I thought you had some kind of Google Apps secret for me. Like Talk to the Irish people, They're the competent ones. Granted, That would've been an awkward phone call. Can I speak to.. The .. Irish... people? Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 9:36 AM To: n...@flhsi.com Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting Well I'm bad at my foreign accents. I thought I read Scottish or Irish. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373On Mar 7, 2014 9:09 AM, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote:Irish? No. Both foreign (Unknown origin) but not Irish for sure. Nick Olsen Network Operations(855) FLSPEED x106 From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 9:07 AM To: n...@flhsi.com Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting Did you talk to the Irish people? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 7, 2014 9:01 AM, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote: Been dealing with Google Apps for education support on an email issue most of yesterday. They've proven to be completely useless thus far. /2cents Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Mac Dearman li...@inetsouth.com Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 8:48 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting Well... I have never had a problem with godaddy and we take care of the customer support. Everything the sub needs is provided for them in their webmail home page. Mobile email setup, outlook, Iphone, droid...etc is all just a hyperlink and its done. It has been too easy. I didn't say it was free :-) , but it sure is sweet Mac -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 3:32 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting Wow, I went through a nightmare with a customer who was using GoDaddy... We switched them to gmail and they are happy now.. They got NO help from GoDaddy... around and around they went.. Both on our network and charter so was able to eliminate that as the problem.. On 03/06/2014 01:14 PM, Mac Dearman wrote: We have been outsourcing email/hosting..etc to GoDaddy for 26 months now and I can honestly say that it has been a real relief for us. Their spam solution has been good as well. We pay about .60 cents a month per sub, but they have really nice webmail. YMMV, GL Mac -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 12:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server
Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
Agreed. Like I said. We exceed that on a per-domain or per-sendingIP basis. However, They swear that limit is per-user. So, User receives an email that is part of a list. Replies all, Which sends to an Alias. And that Alias spawns off 300+ emails to 300+ users. So no one user actually Received more then a few emails per minute. Just like this list. The mail server in question may send 300+ emails when I click send. But I, Nor you. Have received any more then a few messages. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 10:10 AM To: n...@flhsi.com n...@flhsi.com Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting If there are 300 members one reply to all is 300 messages in that one moment, which well exceeds 180/minute, though... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:59 AM, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote: For this particular customer. We/they filter their incoming mail through a Barracuda spam filter. From there it's forwarded to Google Apps. Well recently $CUSTOMER has been bouncing around a TON of internal email due to sending internal distribution lists. Then people reply all the message, Spawning another 300+ emails. So the key here. Is that google apps. Even for internal user to user mail. Does an MX lookup and sends the mail to whatever it gets back. So even their internal mail gets looped through our barracuda filter. Well, Mail started to stack up in the barracuda getting rejected by google SMTP for exceeding the users rate limit. Which is apparently 180 messages a minute, 3600 an hour. Or 86,400 a day. Google swears this is per-user. Not per domain. Or per sending IP. But it appears that's incorrect. As no one user has received that much mail. The domain as a whole has. As well as a single sending IP (Our barracuda) exceeded that limit. After about an hour on the phone with support. They asked me to send them headers. Only to reply four hours later with a carbon copy of the error message I was already given in the SMTP session (http://support.google.com/mail/answer/6592). Guess we'll see how they respond to my follow up email. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 9:44 AM To: n...@flhsi.com Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting Eh If you can't fix my problem find someone who can. What is the issue? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 7, 2014 9:40 AM, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote:Darn, And here I thought you had some kind of Google Apps secret for me. Like Talk to the Irish people, They're the competent ones. Granted, That would've been an awkward phone call. Can I speak to.. The .. Irish... people? Nick Olsen Network Operations(855) FLSPEED x106 From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 9:36 AM To: n...@flhsi.com Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting Well I'm bad at my foreign accents. I thought I read Scottish or Irish. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 7, 2014 9:09 AM, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote: Irish? No. Both foreign (Unknown origin) but not Irish for sure. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 9:07 AM To: n...@flhsi.com Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting Did you talk to the Irish people? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373On Mar 7, 2014 9:01 AM, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote: Been dealing with Google Apps for education support on an email issue most of yesterday. They've proven to be completely useless thus far. /2cents Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Mac Dearman li...@inetsouth.com Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 8:48 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting Well... I have never had a problem with godaddy and we take care of the customer support. Everything the sub needs is provided for them in their webmail home page. Mobile email setup, outlook, Iphone, droid...etc is all just a hyperlink
Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
Well, Technically they sent One. Because it sends to an alias. Which then sends to the rest of the users. That being said. They limit and error given specifically says Receiving. Not sending. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 10:20 AM To: n...@flhsi.com n...@flhsi.com Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting But that one user sent 300 messages. I'm not talking about receiving. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 10:14 AM, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote: Agreed. Like I said. We exceed that on a per-domain or per-sendingIP basis. However, They swear that limit is per-user. So, User receives an email that is part of a list. Replies all, Which sends to an Alias. And that Alias spawns off 300+ emails to 300+ users. So no one user actually Received more then a few emails per minute. Just like this list. The mail server in question may send 300+ emails when I click send. But I, Nor you. Have received any more then a few messages. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 10:10 AM To: n...@flhsi.com n...@flhsi.com Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting If there are 300 members one reply to all is 300 messages in that one moment, which well exceeds 180/minute, though... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:59 AM, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote: For this particular customer. We/they filter their incoming mail through a Barracuda spam filter. From there it's forwarded to Google Apps. Well recently $CUSTOMER has been bouncing around a TON of internal email due to sending internal distribution lists. Then people reply all the message, Spawning another 300+ emails. So the key here. Is that google apps. Even for internal user to user mail. Does an MX lookup and sends the mail to whatever it gets back. So even their internal mail gets looped through our barracuda filter. Well, Mail started to stack up in the barracuda getting rejected by google SMTP for exceeding the users rate limit. Which is apparently 180 messages a minute, 3600 an hour. Or 86,400 a day. Google swears this is per-user. Not per domain. Or per sending IP. But it appears that's incorrect. As no one user has received that much mail. The domain as a whole has. As well as a single sending IP (Our barracuda) exceeded that limit. After about an hour on the phone with support. They asked me to send them headers. Only to reply four hours later with a carbon copy of the error message I was already given in the SMTP session (http://support.google.com/mail/answer/6592). Guess we'll see how they respond to my follow up email. Nick Olsen Network Operations(855) FLSPEED x106 From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 9:44 AM To: n...@flhsi.com Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting Eh If you can't fix my problem find someone who can. What is the issue? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 7, 2014 9:40 AM, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote: Darn, And here I thought you had some kind of Google Apps secret for me. Like Talk to the Irish people, They're the competent ones. Granted, That would've been an awkward phone call. Can I speak to.. The .. Irish... people? Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 9:36 AM To: n...@flhsi.com Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting Well I'm bad at my foreign accents. I thought I read Scottish or Irish. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373On Mar 7, 2014 9:09 AM, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote: Irish? No. Both foreign (Unknown origin) but not Irish for sure. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 9:07 AM To: n...@flhsi.com Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting Did you talk to the Irish people? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100
Re: [WISPA] rDNS for customer IPs
We have entries for all of our space that is like 4-2-2-1.static.flhsi.com. And will insert records for a customer at their request for their static IP's. Never seen a website query for PTR before it would serve a page. But nothing surprises me these days. We specifically used the word Static in the PTR record because we found some mail providers would reject mail from them if it didn't include that word. And it was worse if it included anything like dynamic dyn. /YMMV Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Kristian Hoffmann kh...@fire2wire.com Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 5:07 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] rDNS for customer IPs It helps to include the word static in the PTR record. At least one RBL uses this as a litmus test for whether or not IPs are static vs. dynamic, and will add your addresses en masse to their dynamic address block lists. That is, if your give static IP addresses. -Kristian On 03/05/2014 01:16 PM, Chris Fabien wrote: Is it customary to provide rDNS for all customer public IP addresses? We just had a complaint of one particular website running very slow, our customer contacted the website owner who said it was because we needed to fix our rDNS. The website acts like it must be doing a rDNS lookup and waiting for it to time out before serving a page. We've not ever had this configured for customer IPs before. Are we supposed to? ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] rDNS for customer IPs
It's always truly static :) Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Mark Spring m...@nktelco.net Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 10:24 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] rDNS for customer IPs Seems to me you wouldn't want to run down the list and create rDNS in the blind that says static in it unless it is truly static.Mark Spring Systems Analyst New Knoxville Telephone Company 301 W. South St. New Knoxville, OH 45871 419.753.5000 This message and the file(s) attached are confidential and proprietary information of NKTelco for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any unauthorized review, distribution, disclosure, copying, use, or dissemination, either whole or in part, is strictly prohibited. Do not transmit these documents, in any form, to any third party without the expressed written permission of NKTelco. On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 8:56 AM, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote: We have entries for all of our space that is like 4-2-2-1.static.flhsi.com. And will insert records for a customer at their request for their static IP's. Never seen a website query for PTR before it would serve a page. But nothing surprises me these days. We specifically used the word Static in the PTR record because we found some mail providers would reject mail from them if it didn't include that word. And it was worse if it included anything like dynamic dyn. /YMMV Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Kristian Hoffmann kh...@fire2wire.com Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 5:07 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] rDNS for customer IPs It helps to include the word static in the PTR record. At least one RBL uses this as a litmus test for whether or not IPs are static vs. dynamic, and will add your addresses en masse to their dynamic address block lists. That is, if your give static IP addresses. -Kristian On 03/05/2014 01:16 PM, Chris Fabien wrote: Is it customary to provide rDNS for all customer public IP addresses? We just had a complaint of one particular website running very slow, our customer contacted the website owner who said it was because we needed to fix our rDNS. The website acts like it must be doing a rDNS lookup and waiting for it to time out before serving a page. We've not ever had this configured for customer IPs before. Are we supposed to? ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios
Not their dual radio setup. But I've used a bunch of the Ligowave LigoPTP 5-N[23] PRO radios. They run the same W-jet polling. The unity just has a faster processor and two ethernet ports. In my experience and environment. A single radio was good for about 60-80Mb/s one way (30-40Mb/s Duplex). With a 20Mhz channel. Never tried it in 40Mhz. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2014 11:38 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios Anyone with first-hand experience in this type of setup ? http://www.ligowave.com/ligoptp-5-23-unity Regards Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net From: Ian Framson i...@tradeshowinternet.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, January 7, 2014 8:10:07 PM Subject: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios Hi Wisps, We are looking for a pair of radios that can do 200 Mbps FDX over 11 miles (real world, not manufacturer's theoretical marketing promises). We are looking at using an unlicensed link (most likely 5 GHz) due to the time constraints, although we're open to suggestions. The make/model we were considering was Motorola PTP650 with 450 Mbps upgrade license. We are not wed to Motorola, however. The cost seems to be the limiting factor at this point. Another WISP I spoke with mentioned Bridgewave TD60 might be 1 possibility. Your thoughts? Ian Framson Co-founder www.tradeshowinternet.com i...@tradeshowinternet.com (866) 385-1504 x701 (818) 590-7475 mobile (415) 704-3153 fax Connect With Us ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] CableWIFI?
We see them here all the time. Both CableWIFI, BrightHouseNetworks (The name of the cable company) as well as hidden SSID's. They have been stringing them around the county for awhile now. Even started to deploy on 5Ghz. It's pretty ridiculous. Do a site-survey from one of your towers and watch how many thousands your AP's can see. I heard something about them using them for their new security offering. Allowing an alarm Brain to connect to a near by AP via 5Ghz for monitoring. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, January 03, 2014 1:43 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] CableWIFI? Startting to see this SSID pop up around town. How is this conglomerate setting up it's APs? Are the likes of comcast and such just adding add'l SSIDs to users gateways / cable modems or are they actually deploying dedicated infrastructure? -Mike ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Level3 Explosion?
I was told yesterday at about 3:30pm EST that they were going to have scheduled emergency maintenance. We saw the BGP session flap. NANOG had a few words about it too. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 7:05 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org, memb...@wispa.org memb...@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Level3 Explosion? Did anyone else see an explosion on the Level3 network this morning? They've been up and down all morning since around 2:30 eastern time... just recovered recently. -- Matt Hoppes Director of Information Technology Indigo Wireless +1 (570) 723-7312 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Speed Test and XP
I'm not aware of any issues with it. I will note however, That speedtest.net is a terrible way to test that kind of bandwidth. Iperf/Mikrotik Bandwidth Test is much better for this. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 2:21 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Speed Test and XP Anyone having problems running Speedtest..NET with XP for up to 100 megs? Any work around? Thanx NGL If you can read this Thank A Teacher. And if it's in English Thank A Soldier! attachment: flag.gif ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Fiber handoff to Mikrotik
Also depends on your commit. How was your CPU load looking with the RB493G? If you're increasing bandwidth, And you were on the edge of needing a faster router. Might as well do them at the same time. Baltic Networks/RouterMaxx with SFP ports comes to mind as a nice step up. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Scott Reed sr...@nwwnet.net Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 1:22 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fiber handoff to Mikrotik I depends on what fiber they hand you. If it is Multi-Mode, you can get sub $75.00 media converters and leave the 450 in place. If it is Single Mode, you may as well get a router with SFP ports as to get a media converter. On 11/13/2012 1:00 PM, Dave Barker wrote: I'm upgrading my data from the provider. It's fiber right now but hands off from the provider as Ethernet. The new circuit is going to handoff as fiber. Currently I'm using a RB493G router at my DEMARC, what Mikrotik router do you all recommend to take a fiber handoff? Thanks Dave Broadlinc Wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2793 / Virus Database: 2624/5883 - Release Date: 11/08/12 -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 (765) 439-4253 (855) 231-6239 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Cogent?
Never really had a problem with them. (Or any downtime that wasn't maintenance related..) As others said, Tier 1 tech support has a clue. And can actually complete BGP functions. Email based support is fast (Like updating prefix filters). You get the speeds to pay for. The one thing they do however is de-prioritise ICMP on their routers. So traceroutes look poor to the untrained eye. Someone will say, I trace to google and as soon as it hits cogent the ping goes up to 200ms with packet loss! I point out that the end hop is fine and that's just how cogent works. Oh, And if your circuit is under Gigabit, and your running BGP you have to do this whole A peer B peer type setup with multihop BGP. Which is a bit annoying. But Gig and above you are interfaced right into their main router for that location and hold a session with your neighbor. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Adam Greene maill...@webjogger.net Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 5:31 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Cogent? Hi all, Cogent approached us recently, trying to sell us a 100M/100M Internet pipe. Anyone using them for upstream? Has your experience been generally positive or negative? Thanks, Adam ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Internet Speed test..are they inaccurate with wireless?
Well, It really depends. We found them to be extremely inconsistent. We actually host a speedtest.net server just for this reason. We found on very fast connections (Like.. 100Mb/s and above) that they are completely inaccurate. Where is on normal connections (10-30Mb/s) they seem to be pretty close. We take iperf (Or mikrotik speedtest) results over all else. That being said, We generally find when the site based speed tests are extremely low for multiple users there is normally a problem. Even if its hard to see at first. Have this customer test to a few different locations. Then let him download a large zip file from your own network (Like a webserver off your BGP edge routers) and compare. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Bret Clark bcl...@spectraaccess.com Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 3:22 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Internet Speed test..are they inaccurate with wireless? We mostly deal with business customer and guarantee bandwidth to customers. We validate the bandwidth using IPERF from a Linux server off of our BGP edge routers down to the customer and IPERF always shows the customer getting the bandwidth they signed up for. We use QoS to control bandwidth and make sure to not oversubscribe any one linksmall ratios of 3:1. Of course eventually at some point the customer runs one of those stupid bandwidth test on the Internet and the results are woefully inaccurate (not in our favor)...but of course customers take the results as gospel. AAA! It's not our internet connections, we have three 100Mbps BGP links and none of them run at more then 50% during peak loads. Has anyone else found those Internet speed test to be woefully inaccurate? Or is something else going on that I'm missing? Thanks, Bret ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] EOIP/GRE Performance
Afternoon All, We've got a few locations that we service with a dedicated connection of ours. We extend OSPF to our router on site..etc.etc.. If the customer would like. We let them purchase a cable connection from the local cable company for backup. We create a EOIP or GRE tunnel over this cable connection back to our main POP. And just run it at a higher OSPF cost. This is all well and good, Here's the problem. The cable connections are normally 50Mb/s down, 5Mb/s up. If I run a bandwidth test inside the tunnel, I can only get 25-30Mb/s down. Outside the tunnel, It does the full 50Mb/s. This is the same for every cable connection we have. They are all terminating back to a RB493G in our rack sitting on GigE. I can even run multiple bandwidth tests to all of the locations and get an aggregate of 200Mb/s but no more then 25-30 to any single endpoint. And ideas? Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] EOIP/GRE Performance
Correct. It is a 50/5 connection. I can verify its not just burst traffic by using the mikrotik bandwidth test OUTSIDE the tunnel. Where it will do a consistent 50mb/s. Inside the tunnel without fail, it'll drop to 25-30Mb/s Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 1:59 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] EOIP/GRE Performance Take a closer look at what the Cable Package you / your customer have.. They are all bursty packges, and it is fairly common for the Cable Co's to allow http traffic to burst, while throttling the other types of packets, (makes for nice speed test results). If you are shaping traffic or doing QOS, I would suggest that you setup your limits based on the lower (minimu) set of number that the Cable Co packages describes.. (its the stuff written in fine print !). :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, Fl 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net On 5/30/2012 1:52 PM, Nick Olsen wrote: Afternoon All, We've got a few locations that we service with a dedicated connection of ours. We extend OSPF to our router on site..etc.etc.. If the customer would like. We let them purchase a cable connection from the local cable company for backup. We create a EOIP or GRE tunnel over this cable connection back to our main POP. And just run it at a higher OSPF cost. This is all well and good, Here's the problem. The cable connections are normally 50Mb/s down, 5Mb/s up. If I run a bandwidth test inside the tunnel, I can only get 25-30Mb/s down. Outside the tunnel, It does the full 50Mb/s. This is the same for every cable connection we have. They are all terminating back to a RB493G in our rack sitting on GigE. I can even run multiple bandwidth tests to all of the locations and get an aggregate of 200Mb/s but no more then 25-30 to any single endpoint. And ideas? Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Customer Routers
I bought a RB751 for my home. Worked about a month and then died. All the lights on it just blink when you plug it in. However, We've deployed a ton of them and I've only seen a few have the same problem mine at home did. I've also found that if your going to primarily use it while in the same room. Turn the power way down. It's just to strong to get decent (15Mb/s) throughput if your in the same room as it. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 4:23 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Routers The one that I am using now was one that I bought. So either I'm 2 for 2 with bad ones or Mikrotik has problems. Chuck has 5.14 working so I will try that and hopefully my uptime doesn't exceed his. I'd like to see 40 days of uptime. A week would be a step forward at this point. On 5.7 currently. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 3:34 PM, Chris Hudson ch...@htswireless.com wrote: Yeah, Josh I don't get that. I've got at least a half dozen at in various locations, and have had no problems with them. Order a new one and chunk that one. I still haven't found an antenna to use as an external on those.. Chris From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 2:23 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Customer Routers Free one from Vegas died. Bought one and it reboots every few days. Not customer ready. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 26, 2012 3:19 PM, Blake Covarrubias bl...@beamspeed.com wrote: Is anyone utilizing RB751's for this role? If so, are they reliable? I've thought about using them since they can easily be managed remotely by our staff via Webfig, or the API. -- Blake Covarrubias On Apr 26, 2012, at 11:40, Chris Fabien ch...@lakenetmi.com wrote: We use TP-Link WR340G and can usually get them for about $20 shipped. Just a basic G router, but adequate for most customers/houses. We have over 100 in the field and only 1 bad one in about a year of using them. Used to use Linksys and Netgear, had 3-4 times the failure rate on those. On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Darin Steffl dcsho...@gmail.com wrote: Hey guys, What are some of you providing for customer wireless routers if you include them in the install as I do? I currently have a batch of 10 Ubiquiti Air Routers and the first two I pulled out are giving me some problems. Could be a bad batch. I am also looking at TP-Link as they are about $30 on Amazon with external antennas and pretty good reviews. TP-Link TL-WR841N What are you guys using? -- Darin Steffl ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2411/4960 - Release Date: 04/26/12 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Remote Access
They are running a SBS2003 box, AD and all. Something that can tie into that would also be nice. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Eric Tykwinski eric-l...@truenet.com Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 4:05 PM To: n...@flhsi.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: RE: [WISPA] Remote Access If they have a OSX server or Linux server, the Apples could just use a simple SSH Tunnel. A little AppleScript setup and it's just a click for the user. Sincerely, Eric Tykwinski TrueNet, Inc. P: 610-429-8300 F: 610-429-3222 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Nick Olsen Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 3:44 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Remote Access We've currently got a customer using the a sonicwall SSL VPN Netextender to VPN into their internal network. However, Lately it hasn't been working to well for them. And they are getting a few mac's in the mix these days. And sonicwall says the software doesn't work with macs and there is no plan to. Now, I know I could do this with a simple mikrotik router and PPTP as pretty much everything under the sun supports pptp. But we were looking for something that might be a little more user friendly. Anyone have any suggestions. The customer is just looking to gain internal access for things like windows filesharing..exchange..etc.. in a secure fashion. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Remote Access
They have multiple mapped drives that they are use to. So Dropbox would require a complete re-teach of the whole office. And I'd use PPTP and Mikrotik before I used Hamachi. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 4:07 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Remote Access Are you open to other applications, like Dropbox? Hamachi? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 4:05 PM, Eric Tykwinski eric-l...@truenet.com wrote: If they have a OSX server or Linux server, the Apples could just use a simple SSH Tunnel. A little AppleScript setup and it's just a click for the user.Sincerely, Eric Tykwinski TrueNet, Inc. P: 610-429-8300 F: 610-429-3222 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Nick Olsen Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 3:44 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Remote Access We've currently got a customer using the a sonicwall SSL VPN Netextender to VPN into their internal network. However, Lately it hasn't been working to well for them. And they are getting a few mac's in the mix these days. And sonicwall says the software doesn't work with macs and there is no plan to. Now, I know I could do this with a simple mikrotik router and PPTP as pretty much everything under the sun supports pptp. But we were looking for something that might be a little more user friendly. Anyone have any suggestions. The customer is just looking to gain internal access for things like windows filesharing..exchange..etc.. in a secure fashion.Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Remote Access
We've currently got a customer using the a sonicwall SSL VPN Netextender to VPN into their internal network. However, Lately it hasn't been working to well for them. And they are getting a few mac's in the mix these days. And sonicwall says the software doesn't work with macs and there is no plan to. Now, I know I could do this with a simple mikrotik router and PPTP as pretty much everything under the sun supports pptp. But we were looking for something that might be a little more user friendly. Anyone have any suggestions. The customer is just looking to gain internal access for things like windows filesharing..exchange..etc.. in a secure fashion. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Trango Gear
We've got a handful of old trango gear. 5830 AP's/SU's Fox SU's 2400 AP's/SU's A little bit of the 900 gear as well. Just wanted to see if anyone wanted dibs before it goes up on ebay. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] What is everybody using for alarms?
We use PRTG, The latest one. We watch the web client for down devices, And the important stuff alerts us via email and text message. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Paolo Di Francesco paolo.difrance...@level7.it Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 10:46 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] What is everybody using for alarms? Hi all I am curious to know what kind of alarm system you have implemented to see when a link/router is no more reachable on the net. Nagios or similar? any hint would be appreciated :) thank you -- Ing. Paolo Di Francesco Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo C.F. e P.IVA 05940050825 Fax : +39-091-8772072 assistenza: (+39) 091-8776432 web: http://www.level7.it WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Seasickness guaranteed (no password)
Agreed. Where is that? Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 7:43 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Seasickness guaranteed (no password) That is so freaking cool. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 7:40 PM, Tom Sharples tsharp...@qorvus.com wrote: http://69.96.154.17/cgi-bin/guestimage.html WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: Linux Virtualization
Yeah, it does. its a paid feature however. The free version doesn't do it. But the free version will live migrate. I run a small asterisk server on it. When I live migrate the audio just stops for about 3 seconds, And then picks right back up. Its awesome. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Dennis Burgess dmburg...@linktechs.net Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 11:58 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Linux Virtualization Does it have hot spare servers with auto move if SAN equipped ? --- Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training - Author of Learn RouterOS -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Joel Barnard Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 10:48 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Linux Virtualization I would recommend XenServer from Citrix (it's the commercial offering of the open source project) but they offer a free version. It has a very easy to use GUI, and also has a command line interface. We virtualize all our servers as it allows us to do full OS backups fairly easy. Plus in the event of a hardware failure, you can move VM's to another server with different hardware easily. Joel Barnard Niagara Wireless Internet Co. 1 (877) 654-6942 x 205 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 11:34 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] OT: Linux Virtualization I have worked with Linux quite a little mainly with CentOS as an email server etc. I was curious about trying to do some virtualization now. Leaning towards FOSS. Seems like OpenVZ is easiest to implement but also looking at KVM and XEM also. Seems that CentOS 6 will be focusing on KVM. What else is everyone doing here? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Strange Issue
All Routed. There are multiple Higher cost paths, But I've confirmed traffic is going the way It should be. No queues anywhere on the network. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Louis Arsenault lo...@ntinet.com Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 9:24 PM To: n...@flhsi.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Strange Issue Is this all routed or bridged? If routed are there multiple paths back to tower B. Are you doing any Queues that might be limiting bandwidth for the customers IP? -Louis On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 9:16 PM, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote: Signal is ~-55 Airmax Quality=97% Airmax Capacity=94% Ubnt speedtest shows the same results from APSU. Just a little bit slower then MT bandwidth test over the same link to the tower router. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Sam Tetherow tethe...@shwisp.net Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 5:41 PM To: n...@flhsi.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Strange Issue I know it should be roughly the same, but what does testing the powerbridge to the rocket show using ubiquiti's internal speed test, and what does the quality and capacity numbers look like while running the bandwidth from the customer side to the various towers? On 5/2/11 4:20 PM, Nick Olsen wrote: Have a strange issue that is showing up in a few places. Was wondering what peoples thoughts are on this Here is how things are setup. Every tower has a Mikrotik router on it. And is OSPF Routed. Route to the customer is (Tower ATower BTower CTower DCustomer) Tower A is where we have fiber, And our colo for the purpose of this issue. Tower A and Tower B connect via Licenced Backhaul and will do 200+Mb/s Full Duplex. Tower B and Tower C connect via Licenced Backhaul and will do 200+Mb/s Full Duplex. Tower C and Tower D connect via un-licenced Backhaul and will do about 80Mb/s. Customer Connects to Tower D. AP is a 5ghz Rocket with a sector. SU is a Power Bridge. Now, Here is the bandwidth tests. Using the Mikrotik Bandwidth test to get these results. Testing over each Backhaul from each tower will always max out whatever backhaul I'm testing. IE. Tower ATower B will do ~250Mb/s BC ~250Mb/s CD ~80Mb/s Then Testing End to End Tower ATower D ~80Mb/s (Maxes out the weakest link, The BH between C and D. This is expected) Now, The Strange Part. Testing from the customers Mikrotik Router on site. Testing from CustomerTower D I get about 45Mb/s Down, And 30Mb/s Up. Testing from CustomerTower C I get about 45Mb/s Down, And 30Mb/s Up Testing from CustomerTower B I get about 15Mb/s Down and 30Mb/s up. Testing End to End Customer to Tower A I get about 15Mb/s Down And 30Mb/s Up. I don't get what is causing the customer location to show such slow speeds. I've tested multiple times, And Confirmed tons of free bandwidth on every Backhaul in the path. And testing Tower to Tower shows great speeds. We have the same problem in a few places. And in each case, We see a drop in speed as soon as it hits one of the licenced Backhauls. However, Each one of these backhauls regularly carries over 100Mb/s and have been tested to over 200Mb/s each time. Anyone have any ideas? Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Strange Issue
Yes, And as stated. The bandwidth between the customer and the tower is great. Its only when running end to end it has a problem. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Sam Tetherow tethe...@shwisp.net Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 10:40 PM To: n...@flhsi.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Strange Issue Those numbers hold steady while the MT bandwidth test is running? Nick Olsen wrote: Signal is ~-55 Airmax Quality=97% Airmax Capacity=94% Ubnt speedtest shows the same results from APSU. Just a little bit slower then MT bandwidth test over the same link to the tower router. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 *From*: Sam Tetherow tethe...@shwisp.net *Sent*: Monday, May 02, 2011 5:41 PM *To*: n...@flhsi.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Strange Issue I know it should be roughly the same, but what does testing the powerbridge to the rocket show using ubiquiti's internal speed test, and what does the quality and capacity numbers look like while running the bandwidth from the customer side to the various towers? On 5/2/11 4:20 PM, Nick Olsen wrote: Have a strange issue that is showing up in a few places. Was wondering what peoples thoughts are on this Here is how things are setup. Every tower has a Mikrotik router on it. And is OSPF Routed. Route to the customer is (Tower ATower BTower CTower DCustomer) Tower A is where we have fiber, And our colo for the purpose of this issue. Tower A and Tower B connect via Licenced Backhaul and will do 200+Mb/s Full Duplex. Tower B and Tower C connect via Licenced Backhaul and will do 200+Mb/s Full Duplex. Tower C and Tower D connect via un-licenced Backhaul and will do about 80Mb/s. Customer Connects to Tower D. AP is a 5ghz Rocket with a sector. SU is a Power Bridge. Now, Here is the bandwidth tests. Using the Mikrotik Bandwidth test to get these results. Testing over each Backhaul from each tower will always max out whatever backhaul I'm testing. IE. Tower ATower B will do ~250Mb/s BC ~250Mb/s CD ~80Mb/s Then Testing End to End Tower ATower D ~80Mb/s (Maxes out the weakest link, The BH between C and D. This is expected) Now, The Strange Part. Testing from the customers Mikrotik Router on site. Testing from CustomerTower D I get about 45Mb/s Down, And 30Mb/s Up. Testing from CustomerTower C I get about 45Mb/s Down, And 30Mb/s Up Testing from CustomerTower B I get about 15Mb/s Down and 30Mb/s up. Testing End to End Customer to Tower A I get about 15Mb/s Down And 30Mb/s Up. I don't get what is causing the customer location to show such slow speeds. I've tested multiple times, And Confirmed tons of free bandwidth on every Backhaul in the path. And testing Tower to Tower shows great speeds. We have the same problem in a few places. And in each case, We see a drop in speed as soon as it hits one of the licenced Backhauls. However, Each one of these backhauls regularly carries over 100Mb/s and have been tested to over 200Mb/s each time. Anyone have any ideas? Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Strange Issue
Have a strange issue that is showing up in a few places. Was wondering what peoples thoughts are on this Here is how things are setup. Every tower has a Mikrotik router on it. And is OSPF Routed. Route to the customer is (Tower ATower BTower CTower DCustomer) Tower A is where we have fiber, And our colo for the purpose of this issue. Tower A and Tower B connect via Licenced Backhaul and will do 200+Mb/s Full Duplex. Tower B and Tower C connect via Licenced Backhaul and will do 200+Mb/s Full Duplex. Tower C and Tower D connect via un-licenced Backhaul and will do about 80Mb/s. Customer Connects to Tower D. AP is a 5ghz Rocket with a sector. SU is a Power Bridge. Now, Here is the bandwidth tests. Using the Mikrotik Bandwidth test to get these results. Testing over each Backhaul from each tower will always max out whatever backhaul I'm testing. IE. Tower ATower B will do ~250Mb/s BC ~250Mb/s CD ~80Mb/s Then Testing End to End Tower ATower D ~80Mb/s (Maxes out the weakest link, The BH between C and D. This is expected) Now, The Strange Part. Testing from the customers Mikrotik Router on site. Testing from CustomerTower D I get about 45Mb/s Down, And 30Mb/s Up. Testing from CustomerTower C I get about 45Mb/s Down, And 30Mb/s Up Testing from CustomerTower B I get about 15Mb/s Down and 30Mb/s up. Testing End to End Customer to Tower A I get about 15Mb/s Down And 30Mb/s Up. I don't get what is causing the customer location to show such slow speeds. I've tested multiple times, And Confirmed tons of free bandwidth on every Backhaul in the path. And testing Tower to Tower shows great speeds. We have the same problem in a few places. And in each case, We see a drop in speed as soon as it hits one of the licenced Backhauls. However, Each one of these backhauls regularly carries over 100Mb/s and have been tested to over 200Mb/s each time. Anyone have any ideas? Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Strange Issue
The Licenced Backhauls are Trango Apex 11ghz. tower C and D connect via a Radwin 5ghz backhaul. Default bandwidth test settings. so 20 sessions, And thats TCP bandwidth. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 5:27 PM To: n...@flhsi.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: RE: [WISPA] Strange Issue What backhauls? How many sessions on the BW test? TCP or UDP? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Nick Olsen Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 5:20 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Strange IssueHave a strange issue that is showing up in a few places. Was wondering what peoples thoughts are on this Here is how things are setup. Every tower has a Mikrotik router on it. And is OSPF Routed. Route to the customer is (Tower ATower BTower CTower DCustomer) Tower A is where we have fiber, And our colo for the purpose of this issue. Tower A and Tower B connect via Licenced Backhaul and will do 200+Mb/s Full Duplex. Tower B and Tower C connect via Licenced Backhaul and will do 200+Mb/s Full Duplex. Tower C and Tower D connect via un-licenced Backhaul and will do about 80Mb/s. Customer Connects to Tower D. AP is a 5ghz Rocket with a sector. SU is a Power Bridge. Now, Here is the bandwidth tests. Using the Mikrotik Bandwidth test to get these results. Testing over each Backhaul from each tower will always max out whatever backhaul I'm testing. IE. Tower ATower B will do ~250Mb/s BC ~250Mb/s CD ~80Mb/s Then Testing End to End Tower ATower D ~80Mb/s (Maxes out the weakest link, The BH between C and D. This is expected) Now, The Strange Part. Testing from the customers Mikrotik Router on site. Testing from CustomerTower D I get about 45Mb/s Down, And 30Mb/s Up. Testing from CustomerTower C I get about 45Mb/s Down, And 30Mb/s Up Testing from CustomerTower B I get about 15Mb/s Down and 30Mb/s up. Testing End to End Customer to Tower A I get about 15Mb/s Down And 30Mb/s Up. I don't get what is causing the customer location to show such slow speeds. I've tested multiple times, And Confirmed tons of free bandwidth on every Backhaul in the path. And testing Tower to Tower shows great speeds. We have the same problem in a few places. And in each case, We see a drop in speed as soon as it hits one of the licenced Backhauls. However, Each one of these backhauls regularly carries over 100Mb/s and have been tested to over 200Mb/s each time. Anyone have any ideas? Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Strange Issue
Signal is ~-55 Airmax Quality=97% Airmax Capacity=94% Ubnt speedtest shows the same results from APSU. Just a little bit slower then MT bandwidth test over the same link to the tower router. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Sam Tetherow tethe...@shwisp.net Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 5:41 PM To: n...@flhsi.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Strange Issue I know it should be roughly the same, but what does testing the powerbridge to the rocket show using ubiquiti's internal speed test, and what does the quality and capacity numbers look like while running the bandwidth from the customer side to the various towers? On 5/2/11 4:20 PM, Nick Olsen wrote: Have a strange issue that is showing up in a few places. Was wondering what peoples thoughts are on this Here is how things are setup. Every tower has a Mikrotik router on it. And is OSPF Routed. Route to the customer is (Tower ATower BTower CTower DCustomer) Tower A is where we have fiber, And our colo for the purpose of this issue. Tower A and Tower B connect via Licenced Backhaul and will do 200+Mb/s Full Duplex. Tower B and Tower C connect via Licenced Backhaul and will do 200+Mb/s Full Duplex. Tower C and Tower D connect via un-licenced Backhaul and will do about 80Mb/s. Customer Connects to Tower D. AP is a 5ghz Rocket with a sector. SU is a Power Bridge. Now, Here is the bandwidth tests. Using the Mikrotik Bandwidth test to get these results. Testing over each Backhaul from each tower will always max out whatever backhaul I'm testing. IE. Tower ATower B will do ~250Mb/s BC ~250Mb/s CD ~80Mb/s Then Testing End to End Tower ATower D ~80Mb/s (Maxes out the weakest link, The BH between C and D. This is expected) Now, The Strange Part. Testing from the customers Mikrotik Router on site. Testing from CustomerTower D I get about 45Mb/s Down, And 30Mb/s Up. Testing from CustomerTower C I get about 45Mb/s Down, And 30Mb/s Up Testing from CustomerTower B I get about 15Mb/s Down and 30Mb/s up. Testing End to End Customer to Tower A I get about 15Mb/s Down And 30Mb/s Up. I don't get what is causing the customer location to show such slow speeds. I've tested multiple times, And Confirmed tons of free bandwidth on every Backhaul in the path. And testing Tower to Tower shows great speeds. We have the same problem in a few places. And in each case, We see a drop in speed as soon as it hits one of the licenced Backhauls. However, Each one of these backhauls regularly carries over 100Mb/s and have been tested to over 200Mb/s each time. Anyone have any ideas? Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] looking for feedback on Exalt - ExploreAir
I remember hearing that was only on the high freq side. And that at 11ghz with payload compression they were seeing about 2:1 (so like ~500Mb/s@11ghz). Also heard that the radio will compress, Then compare it to the uncompressed packet. And that if it didn't gain anything, It would just drop the compressed packet and send the uncompressed packet. I found that incredible for a radio that boasts such a high PPS rate. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Blake Covarrubias bl...@beamspeed.com Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 11:36 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] looking for feedback on Exalt - ExploreAir On Apr 13, 2011, at 4:15 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: I remember seeing that there was a vendor other than Exalt that had a 1 gig real throughput single radio setup. It was even mentioned in one of these Exalt threads. However, my searching magic simply can't find it. Trango can apparently achieve 1Gbps over a single system using payload compression. www.trangosys.com/products/point-to-point-wireless-backhaul/elite-licensed-w ireless.shtml I have not used the Elite series radios, so I cannot verify claimed throughput myself. Although Trango did send me a RFC2544 report of IPv6 forwarding performance through the Elite radios with payload compression on. The tests with 512-1518 frame sizes show between 955Mbps - 984Mbps full duplex. We run the Giga series throughout most of our network (Apex, GigaPlus, GigaPro) and are very happy with the products. -- Blake Covarrubias WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MikroTik as Load Balancer?
I found that load balancing in a NAT environment was much better handled with PCC. Might not fit for you, Just something to look at. /2cents http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/PCC Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Rubens Kuhl rube...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 9:01 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] MikroTik as Load Balancer? I was playing around with a spare rb433 doing something similar to what you just posted (nth+conn-mark rules) but, things were not working properly. I noticed my connections were really really slow, I don't know if I did something wrong. It's very easy to do something wrong in such kind of setup. Look first to counters using Winbox while generating traffic (both connected and new connections); if that doesn't show what's wrong, packet captures are the next resource. One other thing, how about fail over? If one line goes out would the other 3 work and that other line would be ignored until is back up? How can that be done? A route on RouterOS have a check_gateway attribute, and usually arp or ping dies when the line dies. You can go further than that by using scripts like the ones in http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/ECMP_Failover_Script in order to kill a line when something dies beyond the last-mile hop. / ip route add dst-address=0.0.0.0/0 gateway=Uplink-A scope=255 target-scope=10 routing-mark=Route-Mark-A comment= disabled=no check_gateway=ping / ip route add dst-address=0.0.0.0/0 gateway=Uplink-B scope=255 target-scope=10 routing-mark=Route-Mark-B comment= disabled=no check_gateway=ping / ip route add dst-address=0.0.0.0/0 gateway=Uplink-A scope=255 target-scope=10 comment= disabled=no check_gateway=ping distance=2 / ip route add dst-address=0.0.0.0/0 gateway=Uplink-B scope=255 target-scope=10 comment= disabled=no check_gateway=ping distance=2 Note that when Uplink-A dies, the traffic with Route-Mark-A will match the last route to Uplink-B because the two routes to Uplink-A will be disabled by check_gateway (and be brought back when it comes up). Rubens I would also love to prioritize traffic, SYN ACK flags and DNS be on the highest priority, etc... I know is too much but, would like to do something like that, I don't know if all these are doable at the same time. You first need to move the queues back to Mikrotik, as it usually sees your ADSL/Cable line as 100 Mbps that won't ever be congested. Shaping the outbound interfaces to actual ADSL uplink is the starting point, and it's doable at the same time. The complexity of the ruleset will increase, so I recommend doing all the load-balancing + fail-over stuff, and then moving to QoS. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Sonicwall SSL VPN 200
We have a client which uses a SSL-VPN 200. Running software version 2.0.0.3-11sv Its been working great and we have a whole group of laptops that have no issue with it. We have a new windows 7 machine now in said group. The version of software on the device is to old to work with windows 7. So you install the latest off the site. But its to old to connect to the older firmware on the appliance. (at least thats the theroy). The client machine verifies the username and password and starts up the connection only to instantly fail and disconnect. Saying (The server is not reachable.) However, it works with the up to date ssl vpn sonicwall demo appliance. So we have confirmed that both the client is alright, And since others connect to the current appliance, It doesn't have any issues. So we are left with software incompatibility because of version differences. The client software is 5.0.145 The people at sonicwall have been extremely unhelpful. They refuse to even discuss the issue till you have a valid support warranty on the device. Which we have no problem paying and getting software updates if that is going to fix our issue. But we don't want to pay the fee, Only for them to tell us, Oh, Your device is to old, You need to upgrade it. And at over $150 dollars if it doesn't work, Its a complete waste as that's half the cost of a new one. Any one have any ideas? Sonicwall doesn't seem to have any unless you pay them. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] IP Space WHOIS Data Update
Well, That's assuming that they update the Global WHOIS info for it ASAP. Once they update it, It takes about 24 hours (changes are seen in about an hour normally). I know we returned some space back to TW Telecom years ago that is still SWIP'd to us. Still trying to get them to undo that... Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Matt lm7...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 5:04 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] IP Space WHOIS Data Update We have returned some IP space to our upstream few days ago. How long does it typically take for them to update the WHOIS data so it no longer points to us? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect
Blake, This worked perfect. Anything using dst-nat was un-reliable as the browser would cache the page, So even since they were past the redirect part, The local machine would still load the same page for whatever site the person requested originally. However, using web-proxy it redirects the request perfectly. I appreciate all the help I got on this one. Thanks to everyone. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Blake Covarrubias bl...@beamspeed.com Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 5:09 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect How about this? /ip firewall nat add chain=dstnat in-interface=ether2 protocol=tcp dst-port=80 action=accept src-address-list=proxy-bypass add chain=dstnat in-interface=ether2 protocol=tcp dst-port=80 action=add-src-to-address-list address-list=proxy-bypass address-list-timeout=1d add chain=dstnat in-interface=ether2 protocol=tcp dst-port=80 action=redirect to-ports=8080 /ip proxy set enabled=yes port=8080 /ip proxy access add dst-port=80 action=allow dst-host=www.hotel.tld add dst-port=80 action=deny redirect-to=www.hotel.tld If you're not using proxy for anything else then it works great. Although, it does not allow them to simply reload the page to reach the URL they initially intended. The user would have to issue a totally new request to see the content they desire. -- Blake Covarrubias Network Manager / IT Consultant Beamspeed, LLC On Jan 6, 2011, at 1:41 PM, David E. Smith wrote: On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 14:20, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote: Normally Hotspot works with a I accept button on a page, As thats what we have done in the past. I don't mind getting a call when a user has a tivo/gamesystem/* that can't login as they can read me the mac and I can bypass it. The point with this is it goes to a page we don't control, And can't really change at all. Could you do something crazy like put their site in an iframe? Have the parent page include their mandatory page, and a bit of JavaScript. That JavaScript has their MAC embedded in a link, using the same sort of link as the click to accept TOS link, which auto-refreshes after one second (thus logging them in as though they'd clicked that link themselves). Then add their page (and whatever other things it uses) to the walled-garden. Yes, this fails if they disable JavaScript, but it's a reasonable price to pay. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Hotel Redirect
We are looking for a way to redirect hotel guests to the hotels home page on the first page load. We are looking for something that does this in mikrotik because thats what we have on location already. The idea is that the user connects up, Hits the internet and is redirected to a page. And then, On the next page load without hitting login or something they go to the page they requested. We use hotspot for our own stuff, And have used hotspot on this before using the trial function but this time around we don't control the page that the user is brought to. So we couldn't add some form of login button to it. I've tried this with dst-nat rules and browser caching always gets in the way. What is everyone else doing? Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect
That would work for some of them, In this case, The hotel management company has a page that the hotel must redirect to. They get fined if it doesn't redirect to the companies specific page. I'm thinking maybe load it in a frame, or something. And have a login button above it or something. Was hoping someone had a cleaner way. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 2:04 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect What is the purpose? Is it just advertising for the hotel? If so, why not just creat a page that looks like their page. It doesn't have to have all the functionality of the real page, just a brochure page or something to say thanks for staying with us. Then you could add a button that logs them in (really just adds them as a generic user to the hotspot) so they can continue on to their regular home page. Just an idea. Cameron On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: I was doing the same thing but after so many calls about whatever device someone was trying to use that wouldn't go through the redirect, I turned it off. The final straw was some IBM people were having a meeting at the hotel and were trying to use the wireless access for every big shot wireless device one could think of. Some would go but the ones that had to work in secure mode wouldn't allow the redirect. Bogus. Turned it off and the calls went away. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Nick Olsen Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 1:46 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect We are looking for a way to redirect hotel guests to the hotels home page on the first page load. We are looking for something that does this in mikrotik because thats what we have on location already. The idea is that the user connects up, Hits the internet and is redirected to a page. And then, On the next page load without hitting login or something they go to the page they requested. We use hotspot for our own stuff, And have used hotspot on this before using the trial function but this time around we don't control the page that the user is brought to. So we couldn't add some form of login button to it. I've tried this with dst-nat rules and browser caching always gets in the way. What is everyone else doing? Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect
Normally Hotspot works with a I accept button on a page, As thats what we have done in the past. I don't mind getting a call when a user has a tivo/gamesystem/* that can't login as they can read me the mac and I can bypass it. The point with this is it goes to a page we don't control, And can't really change at all. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 2:49 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect Possibly a simple screen the desk people can use to see what MAC ID is attempting to login and do a manual authorize? It's in my mind now That's a relief. Finally not thinking about where baby oil comes from.. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 2:46 PM To: n...@flhsi.com; 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect The problem that I was seeing was that there are many wireless devices now that don't have any screen to see a login button. Game systems being the first on my mind. In hotels, some guests bring their kids game system to keep them from running the halls.. How can you get these basically blind systems to punch through a page like that? I never had the time to get the workaround. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Nick Olsen Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 2:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect That would work for some of them, In this case, The hotel management company has a page that the hotel must redirect to. They get fined if it doesn't redirect to the companies specific page. I'm thinking maybe load it in a frame, or something. And have a login button above it or something. Was hoping someone had a cleaner way. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 2:04 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect What is the purpose? Is it just advertising for the hotel? If so, why not just creat a page that looks like their page. It doesn't have to have all the functionality of the real page, just a brochure page or something to say thanks for staying with us. Then you could add a button that logs them in (really just adds them as a generic user to the hotspot) so they can continue on to their regular home page. Just an idea. Cameron On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: I was doing the same thing but after so many calls about whatever device someone was trying to use that wouldn't go through the redirect, I turned it off. The final straw was some IBM people were having a meeting at the hotel and were trying to use the wireless access for every big shot wireless device one could think of. Some would go but the ones that had to work in secure mode wouldn't allow the redirect. Bogus. Turned it off and the calls went away. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Nick Olsen Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 1:46 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Hotel Redirect We are looking for a way to redirect hotel guests to the hotels home page on the first page load. We are looking for something that does this in mikrotik because thats what we have on location already. The idea is that the user connects up, Hits the internet and is redirected to a page. And then, On the next page load without hitting login or something they go to the page they requested. We use hotspot for our own stuff, And have used hotspot on this before using the trial function but this time around we don't control the page that the user is brought to. So we couldn't add some form of login button to it. I've tried this with dst-nat rules and browser caching always gets in the way. What is everyone else doing? Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 Error! Filename not specified. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg
$4/meg from cogent is actually a bit high. I've seen deals for 3/meg on 100mb/s commit, And under 1.8/meg for GigE commit. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Glenn Kelley gl...@hostmedic.com Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 12:47 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg Correct. If you can come off a large building out of any of the cities here in Ohio that have carrier hotels - you can just backhaul your network right out of the city. Cogent for example on their website today is offering $4/meg (for gige commit I bet) if TW wants to charge $2100 for 40 Meg ($52.50/meg) you really have to start thinking about why not setup some backhauls to give yourself a better rate. Coming from Columbus for example - and getting even $10/meg or Dayton or Cincy for us @ $10/meg allows us to make up the other $42+/- per meg in backhaul costs. Lets say for giggles and grins that Time Warner requires a 4 year contract at a rate of $2100 or at a total cost of $100,800 In turn an agreement from a carrier hotel for Blended bandwidth or even let's say from Cogent at a cost lets say for 40 Meg of $10/meg = $400/mo or $19.200 for the same agreement ( 4 years) You really need to debate what the additional $81,600 could mean to your bottom line. Even setting up multiple links from a carrier hotel - EVEN if it cost you $50K for the links would still place $30K +/- in your bottom line. I could see where some of us that but up against each other could actually build our own Network to assist each other even :-) but that is a different story Many will argue that Cogent stinks - Funny but I feel just the opposite. It is a great product for a good price. AND I find they still kick the heck out of Time Warner - but thats just my opinion. On Dec 22, 2010, at 12:25 PM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Is this not from time Warner? Is it from someone else at 5/Meg Sent from my iPad On Dec 22, 2010, at 12:18 PM, Glenn Kelley gl...@hostmedic.com wrote: Depending on your location - AND if you can backhaul you might think about instead grabbing a licensed backhaul and pulling in a different way . For example - While Washington Court House is 40+ miles from Columbus I have found a way to purchase bandwidth @ $5.00/meg And yes - even thought he license costs $3K and the radios $10K in the end - I can push a Gig for much lower than i could ever get from TW we are exploring this now in fact On Dec 15, 2010, at 9:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: 40 megs for $2100 here Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Really? Guess I shouldn't complain when they sold me the 30/30 for $1600 then, I was trying to get the 50/50 and so far they are only coming down to about $2300 for it. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 7:10 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg They seem to have an across the board 800 bucks or so for 10/10 and 1600 for 20/20Negotiable but not much. All the statics you need included. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 6:01 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg Whats everyone paying price per meg for Time Warner dedicated internet access here in Ohio? -Kurt Fankhauser WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ _ Glenn Kelley | Principal | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com Email: gl...@hostmedic.com Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] Copyright Infringement --- TOO FUNNY!!!
We see the same things. Not sure I've ever gotten someone that is angry. Most of them are scared %...@tless. They all hear about people getting nailed for stuff like that. So when you say big brother is watching the normally take notice quick. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 2:00 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Copyright Infringement --- TOO FUNNY!!! When we forward copyright notices from the entertainment industry lawyers to our customers who download illegally-obtained movies, we get a variety of responses from our customers, ranging from none at all, shocked, angry, understanding, etc. This takes the cake...DEFINITELY my favorite...gettin a little wrist-slap from dad... (names have been changed to protect the guilty)... *** Hello this is Taylor Wisdom, Bill Wisdom's son. My father just informed me of an email he received from UnwiredWest via Mark Nash regarding the downloading of a film which violated copy infringement laws. The was labeled Takers. I did download the film Takers from a bit torrent website and have since then deleted the film and any programs affiliated with them. This sort of copyright infringement will not happen again. I do apologize for the inconvenience. Sincerely, Taylor Wisdom *** Muhahahahaha... WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Office Phones
I'd recommend Polycom deskphones, and Pap2t ata's for the cordless phones. As for the system, I'd say asterisk, But you said that wasn't an option... Maybe something like trixbox that is asterisk with a nice easy to use GUI? Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 9:36 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Office Phones If you want local and remote extensions with Vox you will have to get a sip trunk from them and go with an ip pbx. If you don't want to spend much money you can use an spa9000 but I'm not a big fan of it. Sent from my iPhone4 On Nov 17, 2010, at 8:30 AM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote: I had a direct Lightening hit to our office 2 weeks ago and My ATT phone system is now acting up and loses calls all the time. I am planning to go to VOX and get away from my pots lines for the most part. I would like others recommendation for a in office phone system for 5 users only but I need a good voice mail and ability to have cordless phones. I would also like the ability to do remote transfer to a cell or a offsite VoIP extension. Last part I truthfully do not have time to spend 40 hours learning Asterisk. Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Wireless Digest, Vol 35, Issue 21
Ship hard drives? On a serious note. To move that kind of bandwidth, Your looking at licensed links running the whole way, Multiple Hops. But that will also be quite expensive. And the number of hops would depend on how high your sites are. Also, You said fiber would take to long. Was this doing some sort of private link? If you could do it quick enough, You could turn up fiber at the site and just tunnel it back to your network. Might have to increase the speed on your transit as well. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Akinlolu Ajayi-Obe aajayi...@as-technologies.com Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 4:06 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wireless Digest, Vol 35, Issue 21 I need to move 155MB internet traffic over 90miles. Fiber will take too long and cost too much. Anybody have a solution that will work. Power is an issue where repeaters are used. Solar would be the preferred option. I also need to manage and distribute bandwidth. Any ideas? -- Akinlolu Ajayi-Obe as technologies ltd. 234(0)8023258027 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT Console route lookup
Worked fine here. Thanks I noticed the last command didn't work and hadn't had a chance to reply back and say it didn't work right. That does the trick however. (5.0rc3) Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Blake Covarrubias bl...@beamspeed.com Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 10:10 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Console route lookup Brad, I've tested this on 4.9, 4.11, 4.12 and 5.0rc1. -- Blake Covarrubias On Nov 15, 2010, at 8:04 PM, Brad Belton wrote: Neither example worked for me on v3.30. What version are you running this command on? Thanks, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blake Covarrubias Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 8:50 PM To: WISPA General List Cc: n...@flhsi.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Console route lookup Nick, I'm an idiot. That last one doesn't work. Try this. /ip route print where 208.65.55.1 in dst-address Works for me. :-) -- Blake Covarrubias On Nov 11, 2010, at 9:30 AM, Blake Covarrubias wrote: Nick, Use regex search. /ip route print where dst-address~208.65.55.1 -- Blake Covarrubias On Nov 11, 2010, at 9:06 AM, Nick Olsen wrote: Anyone know a good way to find a route in the table (Mikrotik) without knowing the netmask? For instance /ip route print where dst-address=208.65.55.1 will return nothing. But if you search by netmask (/ip route print where dst-address=208.65.48.0/21) will find the route. Just wondering if there is a way to pattern match it or something, Like in Quagga/Cisco you can do a show ip bgp 208.65.55.1 and it will show you the route as well as the path(s) it can take and the best one. And on another note, Has anyone setup a Quagga based route server with telnet access that is willing to share details or configs on how to set one up? Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] MT Console route lookup
Anyone know a good way to find a route in the table (Mikrotik) without knowing the netmask? For instance /ip route print where dst-address=208.65.55.1 will return nothing. But if you search by netmask (/ip route print where dst-address=208.65.48.0/21) will find the route. Just wondering if there is a way to pattern match it or something, Like in Quagga/Cisco you can do a show ip bgp 208.65.55.1 and it will show you the route as well as the path(s) it can take and the best one. And on another note, Has anyone setup a Quagga based route server with telnet access that is willing to share details or configs on how to set one up? Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Licensed 11ghz Hops
I've worked with a few of the Trango Apex 11ghz links. Running 256QAM they will do ~258Mb/s full duplex, or something like that. .8 to 1ms across it, With 10Mb/s or 200Mb/s of traffic on it. So far, They've been the best links I've had the pleasure of working with. In terms of performance, And management. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: David E. Smith d...@mvn.net Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 5:32 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Licensed 11ghz Hops On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 16:20, Matt lm7...@gmail.com wrote: We are looking at upgrading our network and adding a handful(7) 11ghz licensed hops. What gear out there can use both horizontal and vertical at once to increase throughput? We are currently considering Exalt. Short coming of 11 ghz and longish 25 mile hops is throughput. We do not need a lot of bandwidth at the start but would like to be ready to if needed. This will replace a couple DS3 circuits. How much throughput do you need? Trango's Apex gear can, if you have big enough antennas and pay for the licensing (both FCC and for Trango's software), do something like 300Mbps. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Full BGP on RouterOS
We have two full tables running on mikrotik, in two different locations. Running that command /ip route print count-only where bgp-as-path=1234 Replacing the AS with 33363 (local cable company). Doesn't work on either of our routers for some reason (MT 5.0rc1 or 4.4). Our router running a core 2 2.93ghz can take two full feeds gets all the routes in about 4 seconds, And cpu load is idle about 13 seconds later. However making changes with routing filters take anywhere from 10seconds to 2 minutes depending on what its doing. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Kristian Hoffmann kh...@fire2wire.com Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 11:50 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Full BGP on RouterOS Hi, Does anyone have 1-2 full BGP routing tables on a MikroTik router? If so, what kind of hardware are you running. I'm testing a single feed on a P3 800. It loads the routes fine, and seems to handle the routes in stride (all 328659 of them), until you start poking at the routing table like... /ip route print count-only where bgp-as-path=1234 An AS that yielded 500 routes took 1-2 minutes at 100% CPU to complete. Is this normal these days, or is significantly greater hardware in order? I used to have a full feed on a Cisco 3640. It took 5-10 minutes to load all of the routes after a reload, and it was almost impossible to log in, high packet loss, etc. during that time. So, should it take 10 seconds on real hardware, or is this type of query always slow? Thanks, -- Kristian Hoffmann System Administrator kh...@fire2wire.com http://www.fire2wire.com Office - 209-543-1800 | Fax - 209-545-1469 | Toll Free - 800-905-FIRE WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Full BGP on RouterOS
So far the box running 5.0RC1 has been rock solid. Its a routermaxx 1200. So it has to run 5.x, No memory leak issues. Both of our BGP routers have 0 problems. No strange reboots, No strange anything. One running 4.4 one with 5.0rc1. We had problems in 4.1 I belive with it idling out a session or two every few hours. Since we put 4.4+ on our routers, We have been more stable then the our upstreams. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 10:43 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Full BGP on RouterOS This is exactly what I am concerned with. Things breaking once in a while is not an issue.. Things breaking once every month or few weeks is not going to be acceptable from our users.. Trying to determine if this is a 'feature' or a short term 'bug'. Cisco's and Junipers, get a premium even in the used market place, but the primary reason for it is stability... Any other that can chime in with their experiences ? Many thanks in advance. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 11/2/2010 10:32 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote: Our MikroTik BGP router keeps crashing about once every month or so...sometimes sooner, sometimes later. We are using full BGP tables and 4.11 currently. Regards, Chuck On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Brad Beltonb...@belwave.com wrote: We've been running BGP with MikroTik for quite some time now. It hasn't been flawless by any stretch, but ever since late v2.8 or early v2.9 we haven't had much trouble with it. We running v3.30 on two routers with two full feeds each and a third running v4.11 with two full feeds. All of these routers have a handful of downstream BGP peers that we are also delivering full tables to. So far I think v4.11 might be the best, but we don't have as much time on that version as we do with v3.30. The only reason we moved one of our routers from v3.30 to v4.11 was because we had an unusual hang with that particular router. We weren't sure if it was hardware or OS related, however moving it to v4.11 seems to have resolved the problem. (knock on wood) Bottom line is given the price of a beefy MikroTik router vs. buying an Imagestream or Cisco that is equivalent we can have hot standby spares on hand and still be thousands if not tens of thousands of dollars ahead. That coupled with building a network that isn't solely dependent on any single point of failure further reduces the crisis when a core router fails. Things break...doesn't matter if MikroTik, ImageStream, Cisco or Juniper makes it. ALL things break eventually, so plan for it! Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 9:11 AM To: n...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Full BGP on RouterOS Hi Nick, How stable has the Mikrotik been running full BGP with the two providers ? (I read about a memory leak issues, is that why you are using 5.0rc1 ?) We have been considering getting a Mikrotik for such use. Thanks. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 11/2/2010 9:21 AM, Nick Olsen wrote: We have two full tables running on mikrotik, in two different locations. Running that command /ip route print count-only where bgp-as-path=1234 Replacing the AS with 33363 (local cable company). Doesn't work on either of our routers for some reason (MT 5.0rc1 or 4.4). Our router running a core 2 2.93ghz can take two full feeds gets all the routes in about 4 seconds, And cpu load is idle about 13 seconds later. However making changes with routing filters take anywhere from 10seconds to 2 minutes depending on what its doing. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 -- -- *From*: Kristian Hoffmannkh...@fire2wire.com *Sent*: Friday, October 29, 2010 11:50 AM *To*: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org *Subject*: [WISPA] Full BGP on RouterOS Hi, Does anyone have 1-2 full BGP routing tables on a MikroTik router? If so, what kind of hardware are you running. I'm testing a single feed on a P3 800. It loads the routes fine, and seems to handle the routes in stride (all 328659 of them), until you start poking at the routing table like... /ip route print count-only where bgp-as-path=1234 An AS that yielded 500 routes took 1-2 minutes at 100% CPU to complete. Is this normal these days, or is significantly greater hardware in order? I used to have a full feed on a Cisco 3640. It took 5-10 minutes to load all of the routes after a reload, and it was almost impossible to log in, high packet loss, etc. during that time. So, should it take 10 seconds on real hardware, or is this type of query always slow? Thanks, -- Kristian
Re: [WISPA] Full BGP on RouterOS
We had problems loading Mikrotik on the supermicro atom 330 dual-core at first. Took some finagling. Something like had to install 5.x on it, and then downgrade it to 4.x from winbox, Its all hazy now.. Routermaxx 1200 is rocksolid (Axiomtek appliance) Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Kristian Hoffmann kh...@fire2wire.com Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 8:36 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Full BGP on RouterOS On Tue, 2010-11-02 at 18:52 -0500, Scott Lambert wrote: I still need to try a Vyatta system. I loathe the idea of managing a *nix distro on a router (which is why we use RouterOS now). Apparently I've had too much Tik-aid, because I had completely forgotten about Vyatta and similar options. I have a SuperMicro 5015A-H (Atom 330 dual-core) coming in tomorrow. I'm going to try RouterOS and Vyatta and see how BGP responds on each with a single feed. If anyone else has an x86-based distro they'd like to see performance on, let me know. And thanks for all the responses. The information has been very helpful. Unfortunately, the conclusion I came to is I have no idea what I'm going to do. Cisco = $$$ and MikroTik = coin flip. Hopefully Vyatta lands somewhere in the middle. Thanks, -Kristian WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Managed VLAN Switch
+1 for HP, rock solid all day long. 1810G-8 should do well for you. I've got the 24 port version (1810G-24), Never had a single problem with it. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 1:52 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Managed VLAN Switch Cisco 2960 and HP Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 1:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Managed VLAN Switch Looking for a manged VLAN switch with ~8 GigE ports. Anyone know of anything? Going to use them along a few hop licensed link. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Shopping for bandwidth
To answer the OP, No, Don't tell them what you pay, And if you do. Tell them something much lower then what you really pay. rambling Cogent is cheap (watch for there half price sales...) I've seen 100Mb/s from them as low as like $300 Everyone else hates cogent. I had a Verizon rep quote me something like $2900 for 100Mb/s (on-net). I laughed at the guy. And he pulled the famous line (Level 3 loves this one too), Well, you get access to the proven $provider network, Cogent's Network can't compete with ours. ATT takes the cake however. A real quote from ATT came back for $5465.04 for 50Mb/s and $9210.78 for 100Mb/s. No, I'm not kidding. You can get way better prices though a 3rd party ATT rep. Not sure what they really call them (solutions providers?). /rambling Nick Olsen Network Operations (877) 804-3001 x106 From: Matt Jenkins m...@smarterbroadband.net Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 3:56 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Shopping for bandwidth I can get Cogent for $600 per month for 100/100 meg! Just have to BH it 44 miles.. On 10/04/2010 12:55 PM, support wrote: Tell them you pay $200 per month for A 50/50 meg link can you beat that? :) On 10/4/2010 2:46 PM, Cameron Kilton wrote: I just laugh at them and say, wouldn't you like to know Thanks, Cameron Kilton On 10/4/2010 3:31 PM, Roger Howard wrote: What do you do when you ask for a quote for bandwidth, and the person asks what you are paying right now. Do you tell them, and if you do, won't they just undercut it by a little just to get your business? Seems like a strange way of doing business to ask what you're paying for something before giving you a quote. Thanks, Roger WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] speed test
Its worse then that here. Were 6ms off the local speedtest server. And it still gives us crap. Nick Olsen Network Operations (877) 804-3001 x106 From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 11:03 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] speed test Ironton! For me Ironton SUCKS! Ping 108ms!!! Why in the hell are they defaulting g you to arm pit Ironton? Been there that place sucks! From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 7:43 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] speed test My fiver is through TW. They insist I use the Ironton server which, IMO always provides an accurate result. The issue is these people dont believe it and want to see their speed results elsewhere :( On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 7:30 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Speed test mini just after your upstream pipe. On Sep 12, 2010 7:29 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: OK for all your speed hungry customers that want to run speed tests to speedtest.net and dslreports.com - the question is: what do you do? I've never really had good results with off net speed tests even when removing the load and running directly t from my laptop to my fiber connection. But I get these people who think they're not getting what they pay for :( -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] speed test
We tell them its all dependent on the remote side, And its a very bad way to gauge speed. The local florida speedtest.net servers suck... Even from our colo I only get like 40Mb/s down, But like 68Mb/s up, Its stupid. We just host the mini speedtest.net in our colo and tell them to test that, And that the server sits right next to fiber, so if they can get xMb/s to it, That is how fast the internet will go. When they argue that our fiber is overloaded (its not) and we need to buy more because they can only pull 2Mb/s from example.com we disagree with them and tell them we can't do anything once its off our network, But its not a load issue. Nick Olsen Network Operations (877) 804-3001 x106 From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 7:28 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] speed test OK for all your speed hungry customers that want to run speed tests to speedtest.net and dslreports.com - the question is: what do you do? I've never really had good results with off net speed tests even when removing the load and running directly t from my laptop to my fiber connection. But I get these people who think they're not getting what they pay for :( -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Cogent in St. Louis
Exactly, People confuse the two all the time. But yeah, I'm talking TW Telecom, And yes, Fiber :D Nick Olsen Network Operations (877) 804-3001 x106 From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 11:09 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cogent in St. Louis Ah, TW Telecom is a completely different company. No more integrated than you and I. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/10/2010 10:06 PM, RickG wrote: TW Cable Business Class On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 10:32 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: TW Telecom or TW Cable? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/10/2010 9:09 PM, RickG wrote: Funny thing happened after I upgraded from TW copper to fiber - I get an engineer when I call support now. On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Nick Olsen n...@brevardwireless.com wrote: Can't speak for Cogent in St. Louis, But we have it here in Florida and it works well. The 2 peer setup is a bit weird at first, but it works. The support is good, You get a engineer on first call. Not like TW Telecom where you call open a ticket and get a call back, The person that answers the phone can make changes and such. Nick Olsen Network Operations (877) 804-3001 x106 From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 11:47 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cogent in St. Louis That is certainly always a concern, but their number of peers is increasing tremendously. http://www.fixedorbit.com/stats.htm They're the 9th largest in terms of IP space and 2nd largest in terms of peered networks. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/10/2010 10:17 AM, David E. Smith wrote: I can't speak to Cogent in Saint Louis specifically, but be aware that Cogent has a bit of a history with peering disputes, and occasionally cuts off (or is cut off from) largish chunks of the Internet. I don't know if I'd want to single-home to Cogent, but as part of a robust multi-homed solution, sure. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Cogent in St. Louis
Can't speak for Cogent in St. Louis, But we have it here in Florida and it works well. The 2 peer setup is a bit weird at first, but it works. The support is good, You get a engineer on first call. Not like TW Telecom where you call open a ticket and get a call back, The person that answers the phone can make changes and such. Nick Olsen Network Operations (877) 804-3001 x106 From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 11:47 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cogent in St. Louis That is certainly always a concern, but their number of peers is increasing tremendously. http://www.fixedorbit.com/stats.htm They're the 9th largest in terms of IP space and 2nd largest in terms of peered networks. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/10/2010 10:17 AM, David E. Smith wrote: I can't speak to Cogent in Saint Louis specifically, but be aware that Cogent has a bit of a history with peering disputes, and occasionally cuts off (or is cut off from) largish chunks of the Internet. I don't know if I'd want to single-home to Cogent, but as part of a robust multi-homed solution, sure. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] What is a network Appliance?
Do you have a link to the device in question? Nick Olsen Network Operations (877) 804-3001 x106 From: Ron Wallace rwall...@newgenet.net Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 12:09 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org, motor...@afmug.com Subject: [WISPA] What is a network Appliance? To All, I found the Network Appliance that Bill Prince referred to, the Lanner Website. Is this Network Appliance like a routerboard, or only more generic. We can load Router OS, or Ubiquiti Router SW, or other Linux based router or switch SW and have a functioning router or managed switch w/ Gb ports. Or is it even more flexible, and really is a small PC motherboard like my ASUS EEEPC. I'm an OS knownothing could someone help me out of my quandry here?? Thanks in advance for the bail-out. Ron Wallace Hahnron, Inc. 220 S. Jackson Dt. Addison, MI 49220 Phone: (517)547-8410 Mobile: (517)270-2410 e-mail: rwall...@newgenet.net rwall...@tigernet.bz WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's
Emailed them this morning, I figure we will get a similar response. Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 From: Blake Covarrubias bl...@beamspeed.com Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 10:57 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's Emailed Akamai last night. Got a response back today saying we're pulling an average of 19mbps from them, and do not meet the minimum requirement of 75mbps required to qualify for the Accelerated Network Partner program. -- Blake Covarrubias On Aug 31, 2010, at 6:27 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote: I really don't know...we haven't tracked it. Regards, Chuck On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 8:32 AM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: How much are you passing to them? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 8/31/2010 7:18 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote: We have asked, and were told that they don't see enough traffic coming from our ASN. Is there someone else we can contact? Regards, Chuck On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 8:34 PM, Glenn Kelleygl...@hostmedic.com wrote: I have helped a wisp get this with 700 customers and about 30mbps I have helped another get one with about 500 customers and about 50mbps So - just ask Truth is - they want to put these in - they crave new locations like you would not believe. On Aug 30, 2010, at 8:28 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: 00+Mbps and we don't have thousands of customers...but we do have 1500+. Regards, Chuck _ Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com Email: gl...@hostmedic.com Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's
Yeah, They got back to me today. Said over the last 30 days we have a 9Mb/s avg. And 75mb/s is required. Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 From: Blake Covarrubias bl...@beamspeed.com Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 10:57 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's Emailed Akamai last night. Got a response back today saying we're pulling an average of 19mbps from them, and do not meet the minimum requirement of 75mbps required to qualify for the Accelerated Network Partner program. -- Blake Covarrubias On Aug 31, 2010, at 6:27 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote: I really don't know...we haven't tracked it. Regards, Chuck On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 8:32 AM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: How much are you passing to them? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 8/31/2010 7:18 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote: We have asked, and were told that they don't see enough traffic coming from our ASN. Is there someone else we can contact? Regards, Chuck On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 8:34 PM, Glenn Kelleygl...@hostmedic.com wrote: I have helped a wisp get this with 700 customers and about 30mbps I have helped another get one with about 500 customers and about 50mbps So - just ask Truth is - they want to put these in - they crave new locations like you would not believe. On Aug 30, 2010, at 8:28 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: 00+Mbps and we don't have thousands of customers...but we do have 1500+. Regards, Chuck _ Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com Email: gl...@hostmedic.com Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's
I think the big thing here is the way they do video. Hulu, has like 3 quality settings. And you set them. Atleast with the desktop app, The flash on the pages will try to autoselect. Netflix is much more in depth. It just picks what works, With the ability to go WAY down on bitrate. When I had a netflix account, It could pull as little as like 200-300 K and the video was about as good as what you got out of the first camera phones. But then I've seen it jump all the way up to like 8Mb/s to do SD quality. This was all on a PC, Which only does SD where the consoles and set top boxes will do HD. Don't want to even imagine what they can pull if its maxed out, And you have the capacity on hand. I'd guess something like 15-20Mb/s Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 From: Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 11:29 PM To: j284...@yahoo.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's Yea hulu is hungry. Netflix has a much better codec. I would love it if WISPA could work some kind of deal with netflix so that we could offer netflix for 'free' with a specific package. If they charge 8.99 I can see some kind of package deal along with one of the caching server setups. With the Wii, PS3 and Xbox 360 support most of my users would not even need a pc or other STB device. If my cost was in the 3 to 5$ range I know I would have to beat them off with a stick and would naturally only be packaged with the correct accounts. Add in the correct voip setup (still on the look out for a good rebrandable voip) and it would be a good triple. On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 4:49 PM, j284...@yahoo.com wrote: Agreed on hulu,its hungry! Sent from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com Sender: wireless-boun...@wispa.org Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 18:30:22 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's
Yeah, Loop fee's are the killer. On-net bandwidth is cheap bandwidth. I've seen cogent come down to $3 per megabit. And I've heard of Hurricane electric going as low as 75 cents per megabit. Just got to build out to them. Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 From: Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 11:51 PM To: n...@brevardwireless.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's Yup I bet it could. Ive seen 2 of them at the same time max out a 15mbit pipe. That lasted about as long as it took to re-enable the bw queues. Still a dozen or so and the eat the entire pipe and i knock em down a tad more, but under 900kbit and it seams to choke up. After moving to Ubnt M gear, my net feed is my bottleneck for sure these days. Looking at getting fiber points out at the ends of the network but its not easy to get away from that loop fee and that kills it for now. On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Nick Olsen n...@brevardwireless.com wrote: I think the big thing here is the way they do video. Hulu, has like 3 quality settings. And you set them. Atleast with the desktop app, The flash on the pages will try to autoselect. Netflix is much more in depth. It just picks what works, With the ability to go WAY down on bitrate. When I had a netflix account, It could pull as little as like 200-300 K and the video was about as good as what you got out of the first camera phones. But then I've seen it jump all the way up to like 8Mb/s to do SD quality. This was all on a PC, Which only does SD where the consoles and set top boxes will do HD. Don't want to even imagine what they can pull if its maxed out, And you have the capacity on hand. I'd guess something like 15-20Mb/s Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 From: Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 11:29 PM To: j284...@yahoo.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's Yea hulu is hungry. Netflix has a much better codec. I would love it if WISPA could work some kind of deal with netflix so that we could offer netflix for 'free' with a specific package. If they charge 8.99 I can see some kind of package deal along with one of the caching server setups. With the Wii, PS3 and Xbox 360 support most of my users would not even need a pc or other STB device. If my cost was in the 3 to 5$ range I know I would have to beat them off with a stick and would naturally only be packaged with the correct accounts. Add in the correct voip setup (still on the look out for a good rebrandable voip) and it would be a good triple. On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 4:49 PM, j284...@yahoo.com wrote: Agreed on hulu,its hungry! Sent from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com Sender: wireless-boun...@wispa.org Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 18:30:22 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http
Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's
Not sure where I heard it (Here I think..) but the magic number is something like 75Mb/s sustained. So unless you have a few thousand customers, Your most likely quite below that level. Blocking a CDN could be a big problem. You never know how much of the worlds content is CDN based till you do this. Blocking any of the big ones (Akamai, Limelight.. Bitgravity (to a lesser extent)) will break more things then you can even imagine. If someone is abusing your service, I would rate limit them. To put it in perspective. We have two upstreams, One is prepended, making the something like 80% of the internet prefer the un-prepended transit. However, the bandwidth was almost level across the board, This had me stumped. Turns out every CDN I could find liked the prepended transit better. So even though 20% of the internet liked that transit, that 20% happened to include some of the most bandwidth intensive things around Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 From: Justin Wilson li...@mtin.net Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 1:22 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's AS # is for BGP advertisements. Akamai has a program for ISPs who use a good deal of bandwidth to their network. http://www.akamai.com/html/partners/network_program.html Basically you give them your AS (you have to be multi homed) and they see if you meet the minimum bandwidth to their network. Your upstream(s) might already be accelerated so you should make some inquiries. Justin -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog - xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw - Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting - Tower Climbing - Network Support From: Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 13:15:45 -0400 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's Interesting, whats an AS# ? Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Michael Baird Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 12:59 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's Just contact Akamai, and give them your AS #, if you are using any amount of bandwidth they will colocate in your facilities (for free), so you can serve much of the Akamai content locally. Regards Michael Baird Whats your thoughts on blocking limelight IP's just for the customers that are abusing the service. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of David E. Smith Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 12:27 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 11:07, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote: Whats the IP's to block so my customers can't use Netflix and Hulu. It would be just about impossible to do. Netflix uses Akamai, and Hulu uses a mixture of Akamai and Limelight for content delivery services. These are the same content-delivery services used by just about everyone that has lots of content to distribute to lots of people (I'm pretty sure Microsoft uses Akamai for Windows Update, for instance) - Akamai claims they're responsible for 15 to 20 percent of all Web traffic on any given day, so blocking Akamai wholesale would probably be the worst idea. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's
No clue, Just going from what I vaguely recall someone saying... Like I said, I think I heard it here, Might have been on NANOG. Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 2:52 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's Does that 75 megabits also apply when you are looking to connect via a public peering point? Some CDN type networks waive or minimize those requirements if you connect via a public exchange. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 8/30/2010 12:34 PM, Nick Olsen wrote: Not sure where I heard it (Here I think..) but the magic number is something like 75Mb/s sustained. So unless you have a few thousand customers, Your most likely quite below that level. Blocking a CDN could be a big problem. You never know how much of the worlds content is CDN based till you do this. Blocking any of the big ones (Akamai, Limelight.. Bitgravity (to a lesser extent)) will break more things then you can even imagine. If someone is abusing your service, I would rate limit them. To put it in perspective. We have two upstreams, One is prepended, making the something like 80% of the internet prefer the un-prepended transit. However, the bandwidth was almost level across the board, This had me stumped. Turns out every CDN I could find liked the prepended transit better. So even though 20% of the internet liked that transit, that 20% happened to include some of the most bandwidth intensive things around Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 From: Justin Wilson li...@mtin.net Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 1:22 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's AS # is for BGP advertisements. Akamai has a program for ISPs who use a good deal of bandwidth to their network. http://www.akamai.com/html/partners/network_program.html Basically you give them your AS (you have to be multi homed) and they see if you meet the minimum bandwidth to their network. Your upstream(s) might already be accelerated so you should make some inquiries. Justin -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog - xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw - Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting - Tower Climbing - Network Support From: Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 13:15:45 -0400 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's Interesting, whats an AS# ? Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Michael Baird Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 12:59 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's Just contact Akamai, and give them your AS #, if you are using any amount of bandwidth they will colocate in your facilities (for free), so you can serve much of the Akamai content locally. Regards Michael Baird Whats your thoughts on blocking limelight IP's just for the customers that are abusing the service. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of David E. Smith Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 12:27 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 11:07, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote: Whats the IP's to block so my customers can't use Netflix and Hulu. It would be just about impossible to do. Netflix uses Akamai, and Hulu uses a mixture of Akamai and Limelight for content delivery services. These are the same content-delivery services used by just about everyone that has lots of content to distribute to lots of people (I'm pretty sure Microsoft uses Akamai for Windows Update, for instance) - Akamai claims they're responsible for 15 to 20 percent of all Web traffic on any given day, so blocking Akamai wholesale would probably be the worst idea. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] Comcast
Thats if you got them to do BGP. The local cable company around here will say Whats BGP? when you start talking anything more then your windows computer and modem. Oh, and a router, Don't you dare use a router with there service.. Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 Original Message From: Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 6:18 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Comcast Exactly my thought. I could have them do bgp (I've read they will) to keep me up in an emergency. Could possibly even use it for a couple low cost customers that I made the mistake of signing when I first started. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 26, 2010, at 4:59 PM, David E. Smith d...@mvn.net wrote: On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 16:55, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: Comcast has just rolled out their 50/10 and 100/20 service here. At 189.99 for 50/10 I was seriously considering ordering one as a backup connection if my main connection failed. Talked to the sales manager and they had no problem with it and would put it on the contract. Any suggestions or has anyone else had a dealing with this type connection as a backup. Wouldn't you have to get them to run BGP over this connection, so you can keep things online? I suppose this would work if you were really desperate, and willing to basically NAT your whole network, but you wouldn't want to do that for more than a couple hours while the real links are repaired. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX v1.3.0 live
Do you have a link to the FTP? We have a few apex's that could use some love. I'll wait for the release notes though, before I upgrade. Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 From: Steven McGehee l...@qx.net Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 4:35 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Trango APEX v1.3.0 live Just wanted to let you guys know, Trango released v1.3.0 today -- I was talking to them on the phone and they mentioned it would go live this week. It's on their FTP now, no release notes unfortunately. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] strange firewall connection
Using my favorite whois service. One that hits blackloutus's Rwhois servers, the Org name I get back from them is Aloli LTD Running 'whois '208.64.123.177''... [Querying whois.arin.net] [Redirected to rwhois.blacklotus.net:4321] [Querying rwhois.blacklotus.net] [rwhois.blacklotus.net] %rwhois V-1.0,V-1.5:00090h:00 support.blacklotus.net (Ubersmith RWhois Server V-1.6.5) autharea=208.64.120.0/21 xautharea=208.64.120.0/21 network:Class-Name:network network:Auth-Area:208.64.120.0/21 network:ID:NET-412.208.64.123.176/30 network:Network-Name:SSL enabled web sites (Mitigation Critical) network:IP-Network:208.64.123.176/30 network:IP-Network-Block:208.64.123.176 - 208.64.123.179 network:Org-Name:Aloli LTD network:Street-Address:3321 Road Town, Drake Chambers network:City:Tortola network:State:- network:Postal-Code:3321 network:Country-Code: network:Tech-Contact:MAINT-412.208.64.123.176/30 network:Created:20100818161918000 network:Updated:20100818161918000 network:Updated-By:supp...@blacklotus.net network:POC-Name:Network Operations Center network:POC-Email:supp...@blacklotus.net network:POC-Phone:(323) 657-5944 network:Tech-Name:Network Operations Center network:Tech-Email:supp...@blacklotus.net network:Tech-Phone:(323) 657-5944 %ok Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 9:54 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] strange firewall connection I just sent them an email. Gonna beat on them their upstream. On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 9:41 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: Apparently that ip is being used to attack quite a few people. Paste your firewall rule here, it may be incorrect. On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 7:19 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: I'm seeing a ton of connections coming from 208.64.123.177 (Blacklotus.net) to an IP address in my range (204.62.63.3) which is not assigned to anything. The strange thing is that when I block it, I lose DNS on my network. My RB-1000's primary DNS is set for public (4.2.2.2) and my upstream's (Time Warner - 76.85.228.101). Any thoughts? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] strange firewall connection
Yup, I run mine on a linux box. By default, linux whois hits Arin, Or RIPE..etc. Then if the org has a private whois server it will hit it. Where everything else just hits arin and thats it. Notice how it hits both below. Running 'whois '208.64.123.177''... [Querying whois.arin.net] [Redirected to rwhois.blacklotus.net:4321] [Querying rwhois.blacklotus.net] I have a php script that makes this web-accessible. Anyone that wants to use it is free to http://whois.141networks.com. However, That is hosted from my personal residence so be gentle. :D //me might move it to the colo here soon though.. Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 10:28 PM To: n...@brevardwireless.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] strange firewall connection interesting. Your results a bit different. who.is says: # Query terms are ambiguous. The query is assumed to be: # n + 208.64.123.177 # # Use ? to get help. # # # The following results may also be obtained via: # http://whois.arin.net/rest/nets;q=208.64.123.177?showDetails=trueshowARIN=f alse # NetRange: 208.64.120.0 - 208.64.127.255 CIDR: 208.64.120.0/21 OriginAS: AS32421 NetName:NET-208-64-120-0-1 NetHandle: NET-208-64-120-0-1 Parent: NET-208-0-0-0-0 NetType:Direct Allocation NameServer: NS1.ENTERPRISE.BLACKLOTUS.NET NameServer: NS2.ENTERPRISE.BLACKLOTUS.NET RegDate:2005-12-22 Updated:2009-11-11 Ref:http://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-208-64-120-0-1 OrgName:Black Lotus Communications OrgId: BLC-92 Address:3419 Virginia Beach Blvd. #D5 City: Virginia Beach StateProv: VA PostalCode: 23452 Country:US RegDate:2004-04-22 Updated:2009-02-12 Comment:Please route any abuse concerns to Ref:http://whois.arin.net/rest/org/BLC-92 ReferralServer: rwhois://rwhois.blacklotus.net:4321 OrgAbuseHandle: NOC1554-ARIN OrgAbuseName: Network Operations Center OrgAbusePhone: +1-314-323-3401 OrgAbuseEmail: OrgAbuseRef:http://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/NOC1554-ARIN OrgTechHandle: NOC1554-ARIN OrgTechName: Network Operations Center OrgTechPhone: +1-314-323-3401 OrgTechEmail: OrgTechRef:http://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/NOC1554-ARIN OrgNOCHandle: NOC1554-ARIN OrgNOCName: Network Operations Center OrgNOCPhone: +1-314-323-3401 OrgNOCEmail: OrgNOCRef:http://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/NOC1554-ARIN RAbuseHandle: NOC1554-ARIN RAbuseName: Network Operations Center RAbusePhone: +1-314-323-3401 RAbuseEmail: RAbuseRef:http://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/NOC1554-ARIN RTechHandle: NOC1554-ARIN RTechName: Network Operations Center RTechPhone: +1-314-323-3401 RTechEmail: RTechRef:http://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/NOC1554-ARIN RNOCHandle: NOC1554-ARIN RNOCName: Network Operations Center RNOCPhone: +1-314-323-3401 RNOCEmail: RNOCRef:http://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/NOC1554-ARIN # # ARIN WHOIS data and services are subject to the Terms of Use # available at: https://www.arin.net/whois_tou.html On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Nick Olsen n...@brevardwireless.com wrote: Using my favorite whois service. One that hits blackloutus's Rwhois servers, the Org name I get back from them is Aloli LTD Running 'whois '208.64.123.177''... [Querying whois.arin.net] [Redirected to rwhois.blacklotus.net:4321] [Querying rwhois.blacklotus.net] [rwhois.blacklotus.net] %rwhois V-1.0,V-1.5:00090h:00 support.blacklotus.net (Ubersmith RWhois Server V-1.6.5) autharea=208.64.120.0/21 xautharea=208.64.120.0/21 network:Class-Name:network network:Auth-Area:208.64.120.0/21 network:ID:NET-412.208.64.123.176/30 network:Network-Name:SSL enabled web sites (Mitigation Critical) network:IP-Network:208.64.123.176/30 network:IP-Network-Block:208.64.123.176 - 208.64.123.179 network:Org-Name:Aloli LTD network:Street-Address:3321 Road Town, Drake Chambers network:City:Tortola network:State:- network:Postal-Code:3321 network:Country-Code: network:Tech-Contact:MAINT-412.208.64.123.176/30 network:Created:20100818161918000 network:Updated:20100818161918000 network:Updated-By:supp...@blacklotus.net network:POC-Name:Network Operations Center network:POC-Email:supp...@blacklotus.net network:POC-Phone:(323) 657-5944 network:Tech-Name:Network Operations Center network:Tech-Email:supp...@blacklotus.net network:Tech-Phone:(323) 657-5944 %ok Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 9:54 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] strange firewall connection I just sent them an email. Gonna beat on them their upstream. On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 9:41 PM
Re: [WISPA] strange firewall connection
Sure, A friend of mine wrote it, So YMMV. 2 files, Pretty simple. http://whois.141networks.com/scripts.zip Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 From: Ralph ralphli...@bsrg.org Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 10:51 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] strange firewall connection Works nicely. Care to share the script? Ralph Brightlan.net From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Nick Olsen Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 10:37 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] strange firewall connection Yup, I run mine on a linux box. By default, linux whois hits Arin, Or RIPE..etc. Then if the org has a private whois server it will hit it. Where everything else just hits arin and thats it. Notice how it hits both below. Running 'whois '208.64.123.177''... [Querying whois.arin.net] [Redirected to rwhois.blacklotus.net:4321] [Querying rwhois.blacklotus.net] I have a php script that makes this web-accessible. Anyone that wants to use it is free to http://whois.141networks.com. However, That is hosted from my personal residence so be gentle. :D //me might move it to the colo here soon though.. Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 10:28 PM To: n...@brevardwireless.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] strange firewall connection interesting. Your results a bit different. who.is says: # Query terms are ambiguous. The query is assumed to be: # n + 208.64.123.177 # # Use ? to get help. # # # The following results may also be obtained via: # http://whois.arin.net/rest/nets;q=208.64.123.177?showDetails=trueshowARIN=f alse # NetRange: 208.64.120.0 - 208.64.127.255 CIDR: 208.64.120.0/21 OriginAS: AS32421 NetName:NET-208-64-120-0-1 NetHandle: NET-208-64-120-0-1 Parent: NET-208-0-0-0-0 NetType:Direct Allocation NameServer: NS1.ENTERPRISE.BLACKLOTUS.NET NameServer: NS2.ENTERPRISE.BLACKLOTUS.NET RegDate:2005-12-22 Updated:2009-11-11 Ref:http://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-208-64-120-0-1 OrgName:Black Lotus Communications OrgId: BLC-92 Address:3419 Virginia Beach Blvd. #D5 City: Virginia Beach StateProv: VA PostalCode: 23452 Country:US RegDate:2004-04-22 Updated:2009-02-12 Comment:Please route any abuse concerns to Ref:http://whois.arin.net/rest/org/BLC-92 ReferralServer: rwhois://rwhois.blacklotus.net:4321 OrgAbuseHandle: NOC1554-ARIN OrgAbuseName: Network Operations Center OrgAbusePhone: +1-314-323-3401 OrgAbuseEmail: OrgAbuseRef:http://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/NOC1554-ARIN OrgTechHandle: NOC1554-ARIN OrgTechName: Network Operations Center OrgTechPhone: +1-314-323-3401 OrgTechEmail: OrgTechRef:http://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/NOC1554-ARIN OrgNOCHandle: NOC1554-ARIN OrgNOCName: Network Operations Center OrgNOCPhone: +1-314-323-3401 OrgNOCEmail: OrgNOCRef:http://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/NOC1554-ARIN RAbuseHandle: NOC1554-ARIN RAbuseName: Network Operations Center RAbusePhone: +1-314-323-3401 RAbuseEmail: RAbuseRef:http://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/NOC1554-ARIN RTechHandle: NOC1554-ARIN RTechName: Network Operations Center RTechPhone: +1-314-323-3401 RTechEmail: RTechRef:http://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/NOC1554-ARIN RNOCHandle: NOC1554-ARIN RNOCName: Network Operations Center RNOCPhone: +1-314-323-3401 RNOCEmail: RNOCRef:http://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/NOC1554-ARIN # # ARIN WHOIS data and services are subject to the Terms of Use # available at: https://www.arin.net/whois_tou.html On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Nick Olsen n...@brevardwireless.com wrote: Using my favorite whois service. One that hits blackloutus's Rwhois servers, the Org name I get back from them is Aloli LTD Running 'whois '208.64.123.177''... [Querying whois.arin.net] [Redirected to rwhois.blacklotus.net:4321] [Querying rwhois.blacklotus.net] [rwhois.blacklotus.net] %rwhois V-1.0,V-1.5:00090h:00 support.blacklotus.net (Ubersmith RWhois Server V-1.6.5) autharea=208.64.120.0/21 xautharea=208.64.120.0/21 network:Class-Name:network network:Auth-Area:208.64.120.0/21 network:ID:NET-412.208.64.123.176/30 network:Network-Name:SSL enabled web sites (Mitigation Critical) network:IP-Network:208.64.123.176/30 network:IP-Network-Block:208.64.123.176 - 208.64.123.179 network:Org-Name:Aloli LTD network:Street-Address:3321 Road Town, Drake Chambers network:City:Tortola network:State:- network:Postal-Code:3321 network:Country-Code: network:Tech-Contact:MAINT-412.208.64.123.176/30 network:Created:20100818161918000 network:Updated:20100818161918000
Re: [WISPA] What to do with outbound bandwidth
publicly mirror a few linux distributions? Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 From: Marco Coelho coelh...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 2:51 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] What to do with outbound bandwidth Porn Hosting? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Slightly OT - IP addressing question
Yeah, its going to have to be advertised, By someone, At some point. Be it you, The upstream, or the upstream's Upstream... Then it needs to be routed to your equipment from where ever it ends up being advertised from. Don't think you need to keep ARIN in the loop on any of it. Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 From: Matt lm7...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 10:44 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Slightly OT - IP addressing question I've got my own ARIN block and right now I'm peered with my upstream running BGP (single-homed). I'm looking at changing providers but the company I'm looking at does not do BGP. I'm a little in the dark on route advertisements, etc, and I don't understand how my block will be accessible if I'm not running BGP with another provider. I have to give ARIN my peers ASNs if I remember right, so what happens if I move to someone that possibly doesn't even have an ASN? Is there some documentation somewhere on this or someone who can help me out a little bit? Just tell your new provider to advertise your IP space. They will likely just need to know what blocks you want advertised and then they will verify you own them. They do not need your ASN, they will likely use there own. You really do not need to tell ARIN anything AFAIK. Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] RB1100
Does anyone have an RB1100 they could part with? Had one on a tower fail and need a replacement. Please reply off list. Thanks Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RB1100
Currently were limited on space and need a ton of ports. But I would have to agree, The RB1100 hasn't been making us happy lately. Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 11:42 AM To: n...@brevardwireless.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: RE: [WISPA] RB1100 Replace it with xomething else.. Product is not stable Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Nick Olsen Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 11:01 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] RB1100 Does anyone have an RB1100 they could part with? Had one on a tower fail and need a replacement. Please reply off list. Thanks Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RB1100
Well, We have installed two, On two different towers. First one locked up hard. Its on a huge tower, And power was already in place so that was a trip to the top to unplug it and let it sit for a few. Was on a UPS and everything. Second one somehow got toasted. Clear blue day and all the ports were dead but one. All other gear on the tower was fine. This same tower has had a 493AH on it for about a year prior, And it hasn't missed a beat. Just doesn't seem to be as stable as some of the other RB's we have used. Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 From: Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 1:40 PM To: n...@brevardwireless.com n...@brevardwireless.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] RB1100 OK I have not heard that the 1100 are not stable. I have one that I was planning to put at the headend of a group of towers for QOS and bandwidth management. This tread is making me nervous whats been the issues. Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Nick Olsen Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 11:45 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] RB1100 Currently were limited on space and need a ton of ports. But I would have to agree, The RB1100 hasn't been making us happy lately. Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 11:42 AM To: n...@brevardwireless.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: RE: [WISPA] RB1100 Replace it with xomething else.. Product is not stable Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Nick Olsen Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 11:01 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] RB1100 Does anyone have an RB1100 they could part with? Had one on a tower fail and need a replacement. Please reply off list. Thanks Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] UBNT AirMax 900
Not sure if this link will work, But here is the email I got. https://app.e2ma.net/app/view:CampaignPublic/id:10197.8501156949/rid:bebeccd c782349e37791c1b412a6dd1f Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 From: Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 9:47 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AirMax 900 Please share the release or at least a URL. Mike Ford (UBNT) said the following last Friday regarding the M900 line: Hey Guys, This has been delayed. I am trying to get a definitive date for you. Thanks, Steve Barnes General Manager PCS-WIN RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 9:23 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] UBNT AirMax 900 Just got the announcement for the release of the UBNT 900 products. Anyone do any pre-release testing with these yet? How is the performance? Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. 740-335-7020 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DOS attack
Well, if its not hitting YOU then its not to easy to tell. If its hitting your routers you should see it. But if your upstream is getting attacked that's a whole different story. We share a upstream router with a datacenter a few cities over. They got hit hard from china asia a year or two ago, Like busting to 1.2Gb/s if I recall correctly. At first we were getting crazy packet loss because the upstream router was getting hammered. After that they put in a few rules to drop the traffic and that made it stable, But latency was like +140ms going into it. Long story short, If you see latency climbing up, More so then normal for peak time, It could be an attack. Even dropping packets takes CPU time. And if you have that many, It can really slow things down. Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 From: Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 10:04 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] DOS attack I noticed on Friday that everything I had seemed very slow. I went through checking the usual things and found no problem. After digging into everything I could put my hands on, I resorted to calling my upstream to see if they noticed any problems. They of course said no. At 430 that afternoon I got a call from one of their engineers stating that they had experienced a DOS attack that was affecting certain customers. They made some changes and it actually seemed to work better than before. Even my latency times had dropped. Today the problem seems to be creeping back to the same way it was Friday. My question is, is there a way to determine in the future that this is happening. Is there something specific that would lead me to the conclusion that in fact that is what is going on. -- Jeremie Chism TritonDataLink WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] XBOX live, NAT, and UPnP
I've heard it a bit. Personally, I've never had a problem when my Xbox would list my NAT as strict. But I've heard people scream about it. You can either port forward to them, Or enable UPnP and it will do it for you. If your double NAT-ing then you will need to do it on both routers as UPnP will only cover the one closest to the Xbox. And if they have multiple xbox consoles you can only port forward to one, Or give them multiple statics. Just my experiences with it... Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 From: Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 10:11 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] XBOX live, NAT, and UPnP So does anyone here have any customers that use XBOX live and bark to you about you NAT? Apparently the XBOX live service is very picky about being behind any NAT device and its ability to make connections to other servers. From what I gathered is that the LIVE service uses Universal Plug and Play (UPnP) to get around this but the question I have is. If your doing masquerade on a Mikrotik Core Router should you enable UPnP on that device? Or should I just issue public IP's to the customer that games and let them worry about it? And if you have UPnP enabled on the core router and then do a double-NAT through the customers Linksys router with UPnP enable does that not work because of the double-NAT? Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DOS attack
Well, I believe in this case it was all Asia IP space, Mostly from the same hand full of subnets. So they dropped the associated /24's Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 From: Matt lm7...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 10:56 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] DOS attack to 1.2Gb/s if I recall correctly. At first we were getting crazy packet loss because the upstream router was getting hammered. After that they put in a few rules to drop the traffic and that made it stable, But latency was like +140ms going into it. What rules can really help a DOS attack? I just see it as hard to block since usually its coming from thousands of different IP's. I imagine it could look like TCP, UDP or etc. How can a router tell whats legitimate and not? Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RocketM5 PPS
I want to say it was 20-30K/s Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 From: Matt lm7...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 10:59 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] RocketM5 PPS What is the max packets per second a RocketM5 can handle effectively? Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] NS2 Ethernet issue
I've noticed that the NSM2's do better then the NS2's. We've blown a few NS2's, But never a NSM2, or any other radio in the M series now that I think about it, If I recall correctly. And were in florida :D We had a tower take a hit, blew a power station or two and the tower switch, all ubnt M devices were fine. Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 From: Jim Patient sa...@jeffcosoho.com Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 7:59 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] NS2 Ethernet issue Maybe it's my bad luck or I got a bad batch but I lost 4 last week:-( On 7/14/2010 6:44 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: --===1574374465== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636163cc9511a71048b6192be --001636163cc9511a71048b6192be Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I've had two NS2s go bad ever (been 9 months since I started using them). One doesn't turn on at all and the other one is unable to do Ethernet link/activity (powers on, wireless works). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 7:35 PM, Jim Patientsa...@jeffcosoho.com wrote: I have a box full of them that have the same issue. Ben told me to use shielded cable for client installs. Not that I haven't had a MT get hit a time or 2 but it seems every time I see a cloud in the sky I loose an ns2. Hopefully they'll get this fixed but for now I'm sticking with the $130 MT CPE over the ns2. Jim On 7/14/2010 5:04 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: I had that a week or two ago. Michael asked me to just go ahead and RMA - I did. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Mark McElvymmce...@accubak.com wrote: Yes powered up and working fine from wireless side, no link on Ethernet Mark McElvy -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 4:14 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] NS2 Ethernet issue Is the unit still powering up from the POE ?? And you just can't talk to it? From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark McElvy Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 5:11 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] NS2 Ethernet issue Curious if other have seen issue with bad Ethernet ports on NS2's. I have a customer with a strange setup and he has blown the Ethernet port on 3 NS2's so far. Setup is a PS2/Client to the Internet on a 50ft mast on a hillside, Ethernet runs 150ft down a hill to power and is plugged into a NS2 in AP mode transmitting down the hill to the house where there is another NS2 as a client to the NS2 on the hill. The issue is with the AP/NS2 up the hill keeps blowing the Ethernet port. It is on a 10ft Ethernet cable and the LAN ports of the two POE's (NS2/AP and PS2/Client to the Internet) are connected together with a crossover. Any thoughts on why just this one radio would blow the ether port? Mark McElvy No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.830 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2998 - Release Date: 07/14/10 01:36:00 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --001636163cc9511a71048b6192be Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I#39;ve had two NS2s go bad ever (been 9 months since I started using them= ).=A0 One doesn#39;t turn on at all and the other one is unable to do Ethe= rnet link/activity (powers on, wireless works).brbr clear=3DallJosh L= uthmanbr Office: 937-552-2340brDirect: 937-552
Re: [WISPA] OT: Tape backup
Seriously, its getting to the point where people have the transit to move everything to a server offsite. Or even to another side of your own network. Tapes suck... I think this is a prime time to upgrade. Ebay? Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 6:30 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Tape backup I didn't know they made tape drives in the past 5 years. Pretty much the standard for backup now is just another, remote PC. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 7/13/2010 3:23 PM, Jason Hensley wrote: What are you guys using for Tape backup options? Prefer something SCSI to replace existing tape drive that has failed. I just personally hate tape. Thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Problems with UBNT Rocket + Mikrotik combo
Every ubnt ptp backhaul we have is running apWDS/stationWDS and we pass OSPF over them all day, Both ways. What firmware are you using? were running 5.2.1 Beta 2 But we upgrade as soon as they come out, So we should have hit the bug at one point... Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 From: Dennis Burgess dmburg...@linktechs.net Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 6:40 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Problems with UBNT Rocket + Mikrotik combo yep, known bug with UBNT, make sure you have the latest firmware as well, as even if you setup a WDS link, it would not pass OSPF protocol one way. --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training - Author of Learn RouterOS -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Justin Mann Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 5:17 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Problems with UBNT Rocket + Mikrotik combo I will attempt that. It didn't occur to me before; Star backhauls have no WDS configuration as it automatically puts clients in WDS mode if they are compatible, but it's an obvious reason as to why it would happen. Thank you for your assistance. On 07/13/2010 03:14 PM, Jason Bailey wrote: change to ap-wds and sta-wds ;) --- On *Tue, 7/13/10, Justin Mann /justinl...@unwiredwest.com/* wrote: From: Justin Mann justinl...@unwiredwest.com Subject: [WISPA] Problems with UBNT Rocket + Mikrotik combo To: wireless@wispa.org Date: Tuesday, July 13, 2010, 6:08 PM Hello, My name is Justin. I work for Mark Nash, whom I'm sure you have heard from before. I'm his company's engineer. This is my first time writing into or reading the WISPA list; Mark suggested that some people here might be able to help me with a particular issue we have been experiencing. If anyone here has suggestions as to what the issue would be, I would appreciate it. Here is my scenario. We have two sites; we will call them A and B. At site A we have a Mikrotik router, running RouterOS v4.5. At site B we have 3 StarOS access points. Each access point has a /30 on it's ethernet side, shared with the router, and uses RIP. We have a bridged StarOS backhaul between them. It works pleasantly; the router has never failed to pick up the remote networks on the access points before. Recently, we have wanted to replace our StarOS backhauls with UBNT Rocket backhauls. When we attempted to do this, we encountered a very strange bug with no workaround I could find. When we switch to the Rocket backhaul, we can no longer communicate with remote networks. Now, both the APs and the Router are still running RIP - and you can look at the RIP routing information and see that the router has indeed received the downstream routes. However, we can only communicate with the /30s. If we attempted to reach the remote networks, it returns as unreachable - and if we attempt to trace those networks, it seems that the Mikrotik router is attempting to route traffic to an internal-only address assigned to the Rocket backhaul devices. Example. Network 1.0.0.0/24 is on the far side of Access point A. With the StarOS bridged backhauls, the Mikrotik router successfully adds a route to its kernel routing table to route 1.0.0.0/24 through the /30 assigned to the access point. In our failure scenario with the Rockets, the same route is successfully received via RIP, and you can see that 1.0.0.0/24 is still pointing correctly to the /30. However, when the router actually attempts to forward a packet, it forwards the packet to an internal-only address assigned to the Rocket Backhauls, an address that does not appear ANYWHERE in the router's routing table. What makes it more difficult is that even static routes do not work. If RIP is disabled on the respective devices, and a static route is entered, it still fails to work - it even fails to work if you completely remove the internal network from the router, and leave only the /30s on the interface, with a static route. The router still cannot communicate with downstream networks - only the /30 directly connected to it. this only happens with the UBNT rocket AP is in place. Currently, the rockets are configured as bridges, in AP and Station mode, with AirMax enabled. If anyone has any advice I would appreciate it. WISPA Wants You
Re: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP
Turn the power down? Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 11:16 AM To: motor...@afmug.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] OT: Limiting range of Wifi AP Hey Gang Do anyone knows a equivalent of max range for a WIFI AP? Would the ACk parameter work? WE have some restaurant chains with a free wifi for patrons, latest trend in our market is some Sat Guys selling a WIFI antenna for connecting Houses to Free WIFI Hotspots.I would like to limi the range on the APs for half a mile or so Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question
If only we were so lucky... Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 12:24 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question I tend to keep the MT boards at whatever the stable version is and then leave them alone once installed unless we have some issue. I have at least 6 433 boards out in the field that I haven't touched the OS or config for 2 years or more. Heck, those are out of sight, out of mind and give me not one bit of trouble. I wish everything else was like that. :) Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of David E. Smith Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 10:55 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik question On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 20:04, Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com wrote: And whether they bother to power them up and test them prior to shipping (which I do..every one) Here's a sorta-related question (which probably should be on the Mikrotik-Users list, but whatevs) - what's the recommendation for versions and upgrades? If you're not doing anything really fancy, is it worth upgrading your radios all the time? Normally, when a radio is about to leave the office and get installed somewhere, I'll put the then-current version of RouterOS on it (right now, that'd be 4.whatever) - then, unless there's a compelling reason to upgrade, the system tends to be left alone. Heck, I've got a few boards with 2.8 on them, and they're chugging along just fine. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Apex firmware upgrade problem
We figured it out, tftp was on, no firewalls.. etc.. Not our first rodeo :) Was windows 7 64bit. Just so happens that both me and scott run win 7 64 bit so we both had the same problem. Then for fun tried a windows server 2003 box and all was well. This server 2003 box sits in the same network as scotts computer. Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 From: Brad Belton b...@belwave.com Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 7:26 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Apex firmware upgrade problem As Travis said make sure you've issued the tftpd on command, but also make sure your router isn't blocking or firewalling the traffic from reaching the radios. Do your radios have a valid ipconfig with a good gateway? Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 11:04 PM To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Apex firmware upgrade problem You turned on tftp on the radio first, right? tftpd on Travis Microserv Scott Carullo wrote: Maybe I'm doing (or not doing) something simple, but I am unable to tftp upgrade files to either of the APEX radios on either side of a link. torch shows my computer trying to connect but no data back from either radio and tftp command times out without success. Current version info below. Tried rebooting, using another computer on another subnet, turning opmode off etc - nothing works I cannot get the radio to accept a file via tftp. Any ideas? Current Image Version FPGA version: 00151209 OS version: 2p6r14b3D08200901 FW version: 1p2r2D082009 PIC version:217 Modem version: 38 RFM version:27 Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik PtPP Sample Script, Anyone?
Its all about the IP you give the client. I always handed it a ip of the associated network and it would work. Example. RB750 in our colo. Network is 1.1.1.0/24 This is the configuration of a ppp client that has access to the internal colo servers add caller-id= comment= disabled=no limit-bytes-in=0 limit-bytes-out=0 local-address=\ 1.1.1.50 name=USERNAME password=PASSWORD profile=default-encryption remote-address=\ 1.1.1.51 routes= service=any Profile is this set default-encryption bridge=bridge1 change-tcp-mss=yes comment= name=\ default-encryption only-one=default use-compression=default use-encryption=yes \ use-vj-compression=default Bridge 1 contains single Ethernet interface that plugs into the colo switch. Should work :D but no promises. Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Sent: Monday, May 31, 2010 9:32 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Mikrotik PtPP Sample Script, Anyone? Been trying to setup a PTPP server on a Mikrotik 600A running 5.2 Beta. NO LUCK! I can connect to it just fine but can't see anything on the remote network. Anyone have a sample PTPP script that works? Bob- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 802.11n and 40MHz channels in 2.4GHz?
Yeah, I have a new gateway netbook with a atheros N card in it, And it will connect to a Nano station M2 on 40mhz channels. No legacy devices can connect though unless its on 20. Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 From: Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 8:58 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] 802.11n and 40MHz channels in 2.4GHz? Thanks! Yeah, now I googled macbook pro 802.11n 40MHz channels and I'm seeing that. Oh well. I still would rather fight than switch. I love the Mac OS. Here's one thing I found that confirms that: http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1561703tstart=0 Greg On May 22, 2010, at 8:05 PM, Rubens Kuhl wrote: I think Apple has a position on 11n on 2.4 GHz that their devices won't do 40 MHz on 2.4 GHz. Rubens On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 9:32 PM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: The clients are all Macintosh computers, some the newer MacBooks and some are the older MacBooks. They're all Intel based. Greg On May 22, 2010, at 3:37 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: N is MIMO with 5, 10, 20, or 40 MHz channels. What type of clients are you using? I'm not even sure why UBNT still makes the Bullets. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 5/22/2010 12:19 PM, Greg Ihnen wrote: I have a BulletM2 (with 5.2 firmware) which I'm using as AP. Clients will only associate with it when it's using 20MHz channels. Isn't the whole idea with wireless N about using 40MHz channels (channel bonding) for higher throughput? So I started googling. I saw one Google return (on the search page) that seemed to indicate using 40MHz was prohibited in 2.4GHz (maybe for clients?) but when I started clicking on links I couldn't find an article that said as much. But I have noticed this, when I set my BulletM2 to 40MHz channels the clients won't associate. Is this just a UBNT issue? Greg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] T- minus 1 hour
That's about 7 miles north of me :D You should see the bandwidth spike because everyone in the county watching the streams. We also have a customer out at KSC that pushes a stream. Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 From: forbes.me...@wabroadband.com Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 1:33 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] T- minus 1 hour http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] T- minus 1 hour
Meh, It only happens once every few months or so, And we have the bandwidth so its not really a problem. Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 From: Rubens Kuhl rube...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 3:12 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] T- minus 1 hour Multicast ? Rubens On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Nick Olsen n...@brevardwireless.com wrote: That's about 7 miles north of me :D You should see the bandwidth spike because everyone in the county watching the streams. We also have a customer out at KSC that pushes a stream. Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 From: forbes.me...@wabroadband.com Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 1:33 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] T- minus 1 hour http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests
We use the speedtest.net mini test. Host it right in our colo on our network. Works good for us. We tell customers to use it instead of any offsite speed test, As they have to many variables that we don't control. Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 From: Carl Shivers cshiv...@aristotle.net Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 5:17 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Customer Speed Tests From time to time I get customer complaints when they use various offsite speed tests. Does anyone know of good speed test software that I can set up on my network? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Has anyone found anything better than layer 7 patterns for identifying Skype?
the L7 filter rules I used to mark skype for QOS mysteriously stopped working about 2-3 months ago... Before that, they worked great.. Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 From: Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 10:16 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Has anyone found anything better than layer 7 patterns for identifying Skype? I'm trying to prioritize Skype but the L7 patterns are hit or miss. Is there any other way to ID Skype traffic? Maybe something that looks at the number of connections, the type of connections (UDP) and data rate? Or maybe something else? Has anyone tried to go beyond L7 patterns to ID Skype? Greg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Has anyone found anything better than layer 7 patterns for identifying Skype?
You would think so. But the whole Idea of it is working no matter what. So they use whatever they need to (stun...etc..) Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 From: Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 11:37 AM To: n...@brevardwireless.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Has anyone found anything better than layer 7 patterns for identifying Skype? Maybe it's a newer version of Skype? Skype goes to great lengths to conceal itself and slip through firewalls which sometimes is needed for it to work, but it would be nice if there was a config option that made it more easily identifiable for time when it's not an intruder on the network and on is actually trying to help it work better. Greg On May 5, 2010, at 9:54 AM, Nick Olsen wrote: the L7 filter rules I used to mark skype for QOS mysteriously stopped working about 2-3 months ago... Before that, they worked great.. Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 From: Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 10:16 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Has anyone found anything better than layer 7 patterns for identifying Skype? I'm trying to prioritize Skype but the L7 patterns are hit or miss. Is there any other way to ID Skype traffic? Maybe something that looks at the number of connections, the type of connections (UDP) and data rate? Or maybe something else? Has anyone tried to go beyond L7 patterns to ID Skype? Greg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Nanobridge M
We have a few of them out and about, So far no problems with them. Had hard rain last night too, no nanobridges down. Every one we have put up has done 20+Mb/s in 10mhz of space. So we like it. Nick Olsen Network Engineer / Customer Support (321) 205-1100 x106 From: Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 1:24 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nanobridge M In the radio design, I was concerned with water entering through the plastic case into the Ethernet port. This is a 500/month customer so maybe I shouldn't be looking at 160.00 link for something like this. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 26, 2010, at 12:12 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I have nothing but good things to say about the nanoSTATION but I've not used any other full unit from Ubnt. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to co ntinue that counts. --- Winston Churchill On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 1:09 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: I am new to ubnt equipment so I have some reservations. I have a large customer that I was considering making a point to point using the nanobridge M units. I am concerned with the quality of this unit. Anyone use this unit? Sent from my iPhone --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Today I fied a customer and I liked it! WAS An Old Woman
Bending backward, Or in any direction only leads to bad things... Nick Olsen Network Engineer / Customer Support (321) 205-1100 x106 From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 9:55 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Today I fied a customer and I liked it! WAS An Old Woman Ah... But it got better today. This customer was the ONLY one on a very NEW AP. Teenage grandson begged and begged to be installed. I never install a paying customer until I test and test and tweak with a volunteer and it's perfect and near bullet proof. But Josh begs and I bend the rules. Told my cousin, who was my volunteer, I'd be back after I get this kid all fixed up. So I go to boys house. Lives with grandparents. The place is like a postcard. Very unbelievably anal. Calculations put me 20 feet up for bottom of Fresnel. Grandpa says Nope, can't put it on the house. (2 story, tall place) No antenna tower... Well too bad then. But Josh, 15, makes the sad story to me so I bend again and spring for a 4 foot hole, 6 bags of cement, 40 foot mast, ect.. Way out back behind the shed. Tell them all it will take probably a week to get it all set to be perfect. Well here it is, been a week. Of course, grandma yells at me last night, has a big attitude. Today, boy calls, Internet not working Attitude again. (I'm monitoring all day, problem is obviously is with his PC) I remind him that old man said no house mount (has a very nice big chimney to clam on to) and I was monitoring the signal all day today, and I was. Has a -74 ALL DAY! He's 7 miles out with trees But still very good signal. So teen boy, Josh tells me Grandpa said that if you don't come out right now to fix it you need to come tomorrow and take everything out including the pole because it's UNRELIABLE Oppps! Said the wrong thing. I closed the store, went home and picked up my saws all, drove out... Pulled out the big cable cutters Josh boy comes over on his ATV What ya think is wrong? I say... I'm sorry, grandpa says we're unreliable so I'm just gonna help you all out and take it all down. Deer eyes in the headlights. Bluff called. Cut the cable, took down top section. Grandpa comes out. Sorry we weren't reliable sir, I told you it would take about a week but I don't want to cause you anymore pain. Uh, uh, uh... He says. Sawsall. Last section. Josh, can you go get me the power injector and power supply? Okay... In and out. YOU'RE FIRED! I'm working on a clause in our terms of service concerning Unreasonable Customers. From now on, I reserve the right to fire unreasonable customers. The truth is, I really don't give a damn if I provide quality internet at a more than reasonable price to people who are jerks to us. Life is too short. I'm a nice guy, (Too nice, so says Gene Kelly... YO, GENE!) I'm done with unreasonable, pushy people. They need to sign a I Won't Be A Jerk agreement. And yes, I'm making one. Enjoy. Bob- - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 1:44 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] An Old Woman That as good as the old man who asked my installer if he was spending the night since its so late! On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 12:46 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: An old woman yelled at me tonight. It's Ten O'clock, it's time to come down! I work 24 hours a day. Old woman pissed me of. Had to share. Almost took my anenna home with m. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join
Re: [WISPA] System Builders WAS: Seagate 7200.11 Hard Drives
I love people that do this. Sure, spend less, in six months when it is toast, I'll be here to tell you I told you so Nick Olsen Network Engineer / Customer Support (321) 205-1100 x106 From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 1:49 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] System Builders WAS: Seagate 7200.11 Hard Drives I went to all Crucial RAM quite a few years ago. They have a lifetime warranty and that in itself says much about the company. I have had to so a few RMA's with them though and it was all on the DDR2 when they were trying to try new things, I suppose, and the ball grid wasn't flowed correctly. Chips not making full contact at times. But they were smooth as could be with the RMA, no hassle at all. I love when retail customers come in asking to purchase ram and I give them, the Crucial price. I can get it for less than half that on ebay they say. Go get it off Ebay then. I've tested enough Ebay ram to say It ain't quality! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Glenn Kelley Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 1:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] System Builders WAS: Seagate 7200.11 Hard Drives Running a large Data Center I can say yes ... Every component is subject to failure. I have seen CPU's die - I have seen boards - Ram and the like as well. Funny - never had crucial ram doa or die ... in thousands of machines... Samsung ram - feels like its all doa On Apr 21, 2010, at 1:04 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Has anyone had a CPU go bad? I've never once seen this. I've never had RAM go bad either, though I have had some bad sticks DOA. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. --- Winston Churchill On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 1:01 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: We can easily hold others accountable if we use the retail components rather than the OEM. 3 years on the Intel processor, 3 on the motherboard, 5 years on the hard drive, etc. If a part fails, we swap it out and rma the bad one. But that very rarely happens anyhow. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Charles Hooper Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 9:43 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] System Builders WAS: Seagate 7200.11 Hard Drives Being a system builder does seem like it would be pretty tough these. Most of the shops around here have shifted from doing system builds to becoming Value-Added Resellers. Even with servers it seems best to go with a name brand, what with HP's 3 year warranties and all. And, let's face it, it's nice being able to hold someone else accountable. Regards, Charles Mike Hammett wrote: How can you be a system builder anymore? I use only top quality parts because there's not enough margin on the low quality ones to justify the support... but then Dell's $400 desktop will work just fine for many people for 5 years. The only market I've found for system builders are servers, gaming machines, and other custom one-off applications. I can't get the hardware for a decent system for less than $600, then you have to add Windows, etc. I've found that buying from NewEgg or ProVantage or TigerDirect or... is significantly cheaper than DH, ASI, MA Labs, etc. often to the point where after profit, the NewEgg device is less expensive than my cost from a distributor. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Steven Barnes st...@pcswin.com Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 10:53 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Seagate 7200.11 Hard Drives As a system builder. I disagree. I have sold seagate drives for 18 years. I built over 200 systems last year. I had 2 I had to RMA. I have returned 20% of Wd and 30% of hitachi. I will stay with Seagate. Get a good distributor like ASI . Steve On 4/20/10, Adam Kennedy adamkenn...@omnicity.net wrote: Where do you guys buy your drives from that you have had such good luck with WD and not Seagate? Since 1994 I have had countless failures with Maxtor and Western Digital disks. In fact just a few weeks ago I had TWO Western Digitals fail in the same server and they were Raid Edition disks! In my lifetime I have had maybe two Seagate drives fail. It also makes a huge difference, with any brand, what model of drive you buy. If you buy a cheap version of any of them then you are just asking for issues. Western digital I would stick with anything Black edition or better. Seagate I would stick
Re: [WISPA] VoIP
Asterisk will run on any old thing you've got laying around. Obviously you'll want to put a little bit of money in to something new and reliable for production use. Nick Olsen Network Engineer / Customer Support (321) 205-1100 x106 From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 12:12 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoIP The software costs nothing but you have to pay for that hardware. Then maintain it. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. --- Winston Churchill On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 12:07 PM, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.comwrote: PRI is something like $600/mo. On one particularly busy site we have about 200 users on it, and never seen it go above 12 active channels. The ATA connects to the antenna. In our case, most are UBNT units. The UBNT does PPPoE and NAT for the customer, but VLAN 999 is passed straight through. The ATA picks this up and bridges the rest. VoIP switch at the tower is on VLAN 999, so the ATA gets it's IP from the switch and connects directly to it without any routers. Use something like Trix if you think Asterisk is too much work. Cost... I don't know... we downloaded Asterisk for free, so it didn't cost us anything. On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: How much is a PRI for each tower? What is the ATA connecting to? I've tried Asterisk and there is absolutely no comparison versus my current platform in simplicity. Way too much work and cost in my opinion... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. --- Winston Churchill On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com wrote: Roll you own. We have PRI's at our tower sites (at least the primary sites), and redundant Asterisk switches. The switches have a VLAN, which is common throughout the entire network down to the ATA/IP Phone. VoIP doesn't touch any router. The ATA at customers house is on the same VLAN as the switch, so no NAT issues or anything. Because switch is at the tower, it's only the last mile of QoS we have to worry about. We've done it many different ways--started out wholesaling, rebranding, etc. So far this has been the simpliest and best-working solution yet. On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Kevin Sullivan kevin.sulli...@alyrica.netwrote: We'd like to start offering VoIP to our wireless customers, and we've taken a look at a couple of packaged soultions like NetSapiens. What is everyone else using? We'd like to start at a lower $$ than the $17,000 that we've been hearing from the packaged deals. Kevin WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti AirOS Comparison
My god, Why am I just finding these now Nick Olsen Network Engineer / Customer Support (321) 205-1100 x106 From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 12:35 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti AirOS Comparison Slick! Thank you!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. --- Winston Churchill On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 10:34 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: Do yourself a favor though. Don't even try faxing. Our provider's fax service is hit or miss over wired service. If you have to do faxing use faxxbochs. It will work over any connection type. I use it for anybody that uses their fax for anything more than occasional use. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 18, 2010, at 7:23 PM, Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net wrote: I swear. I keep being afraid of SELLING VoIP over our wireless connections. Fact is... Other VoIP companies ARE selling their service to MY wireless customers. And it's working just fine. Fact is... When someone calls up and says I can't get my VoIP service running right, we troubleshoot it and make it quality enough for them to run VoIP. So why not do it? Lots of things to consider, but quality of our connections should not be one of them. Mark Nash UnwiredWest 1702 W. 2nd Ave Suite A Eugene, OR 97402 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com To: can...@believewireless.net; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 8:39 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti AirOS Comparison In all fairness I've got VoIP running all over the place on Ubiquity gear and its working fine... I imagine every scenario would be different, it usually is. Same tool doesn't work for every job. Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 From: can...@believewireless.net p...@believewireless.net Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 8:10 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti AirOS Comparison Upgraded the AP and all CPE to Beta 5 this morning and latency still sucks. Signal is a -57 on one side and -59 on the other. Every one of our VoIP customers on this tower is complaining. --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] UBNT M Was: Ubiquiti made no points today
Airview should do this on the ubnt radios with latest firmware. 2.4 goes crazy with my microwave on, So it doesn't just show 802.11. Nick Olsen Network Engineer / Customer Support (321) 205-1100 x106 From: Justin Wilson li...@mtin.net Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 3:13 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT M Was: Ubiquiti made no points today Canopy is proprietary. If you are not running canopy you will need a spectrum analyzer that sees the raw RF. -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog Wisp Consulting Tower Climbing Network Support From: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 15:04:54 -0400 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT M Was: Ubiquiti made no points today Interesting... What would a Canopy Signature look like ? Faisal On 4/14/2010 2:56 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: Canopy wont show on his scan, that is a 802.11 scan Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 2:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT M Was: Ubiquiti made no points today Ouch... looks like noise in the area is killing you... Does any know what the Moto Canopy Mac address start with ? This way you can check to see if there is Moto Canopy running there.. You should seriously consider change out the 2.4 to the 5x radios. Faisal. On 4/14/2010 2:28 PM, AJ wrote: Current stable setup is Airmax on, 10 Mhz channel, freq 2417 (channel 2). Noise floor varies -96 to -83 dBm Signal RX from station -59 to -67 TX/RX 13 Mbps CCQ 100% Speedtest shows 2.88 Mbps RX, 1.94 Mbps TX Airmax turned off Noise floor varies -96 to -85 dBm Signal RX from station -60 ACK 51 TX/RX 13 MBps CCQ 100% Speedtest shows 2.66 Mbps RX, 3.26 Mbps TX Changed both stations to 1 mile/Auto ACK and now sitting stable at about 3.0 Mbps TX/RX after half dozen tests... On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 12:18 PM, Faisal Imtiazfai...@snappydsl.netwrote: Hey AJ. I am curious. Turn on Airmax. Reduce Channel size to 10mhz or 5mhz And see if things improve... Faisal. On 4/14/2010 2:09 PM, AJ wrote: Here is the upper portion of the band running Airview - it's roughly the same across the entire 2.3-2.7 band that the NS2M can scan, of course significantly higher centered on US channels 6 and 11... hopefully the PDF flows through correctly... View from the NS2M at the power supply cabinet (next to the subdivision) Site Survey Scanned Frequencies: 2.412GHz 2.417GHz 2.422GHz 2.427GHz 2.432GHz 2.437GHz 2.442GHz 2.447GHz 2.452GHz 2.457GHz 2.462GHz Scanning, please wait... MAC Address SSID Device Name Encryption Signal / Noise, dBm Frequency, GHz Channel 00:21:29:66:C6:D7 MadaWPA2 -63 / -82 2.412 1 00:23:EE:28:9B:D1 OurMaddieWPA -71 / -82 2.412 1 00:24:7B:04:FA:66 myqwest6245WPA -67 / -82 2.412 1 00:19:E4:4C:F9:49 HelloMotoWPA -56 / -82 2.412 1 00:18:84:81:A2:79 ASGARDWPA2 -76 / -84 2.427 4 00:19:7D:05:8A:28 My PS3WPA -75 / -85 2.437 6 00:21:D7:90:80:10 WPA2 -59 / -85 2.437 6 00:1C:FB:FD:CB:D0 qwestJONESWPA -74 / -84 2.447 8 00:12:17:62:58:69 HelloMoto2GWPA -68 / -85 2.462 11 00:15:A3:E5:15:70 Blacklab34WPA -58 / -85 2.462 11 00:1F:CA:26:F6:C6 WPA2 -20 / -85 2.462 11 00:21:D7:90:7C:E0 WPA2 -51 / -85 2.462 11 00:24:7B:14:D6:56 myqwest5589WPA -70 / -85 2.462 11 00:00:00:00:00:00 WEP -71 / -82 2.412 1 00:14:A5:30:06:5C MotorolaNONE -70 / -82 2.412 1 00:22:75:46:BB:D4 Belkin_N_Wireless_46bbd4NONE -72 / -85 2.432 5 00:21:29:95:3A:67 JohnNONE -81 / -85 2.437 6 00:21:00:5C:2D:35 HomeWEP -80 / -85 2.437 6 00:0C:41:96:68:AE linksysWEP -72 / -85 2.437 6 00:24:B2:76:6A:10 tmobile hotspotWEP -73 / -84 2.447 8 00:15:05:36:DA:8B ACTIONTECWEP -70 / -84 2.452 9 00:24:7B:35:A1:54 myqwest4705WEP -63 / -85 2.462 11 00:00:00:00:00:00 WEP -62 / -85 2.462 11 00:14:6C:94:B6:00 BarbaraNONE -71 / -85 2.462 11 Scan from the remote employee's house facing the 2 new subdivisions: Site Survey Scanned Frequencies: 2.412GHz 2.417GHz 2.422GHz 2.427GHz 2.432GHz 2.437GHz 2.442GHz 2.447GHz 2.452GHz 2.457GHz 2.462GHz Scanning, please wait... MAC Address SSID Device Name Encryption Signal / Noise, dBm Frequency, GHz
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Beta 5.2.4 Released
Thats not true, They my M2 sees everything from 2402.00 to 2477.00 And turning on my Microwave makes the high side above 2450 go crazy. It won't go any higher then power of -10, and it pegs that. Nick Olsen Network Engineer / Customer Support (321) 205-1100 x106 From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 10:10 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Beta 5.2.4 Released Ubnt radios won't see non-802.11 stuff though... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. --- Winston Churchill On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 10:07 AM, Michael Baird m...@tc3net.com wrote: You can pick up one for $75 and put an Omni on it. It's pretty good, uses the same interface as their airview analyzers, puts the AP into spectrum analysis mode and talks to a java client running on your desktop. I imagine most any wireless vendor carries them, the big deal with this public release is they finally can handle noise properly and it doesn't cause a reassociation. Regards Michael Baird I am not a huge UBNT fan but I might be persuaded to buy one of these for each tower to setup as a remote Spectrum Analyzer for each tower location. How much do these radios run and who sells them on here? Scriv On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 7:21 AM, Robert Westrobert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: UBNT Beta 5.2.4 was released yesterday. (Stop the eye rolling.! J ) I'm cautious with the Betas so I'm trying the new UBNT AirOS Beta firmware on a couple of unused AP radios out in the field. The Beta has the AirView Spectrum Analyzer in it now. Works darned good, looks just like the software for the little AirView devices we use. This one lets me set the channel scan from 4900 to 6400, gives you the ability to control whatever range you want to monitor. Nice and smooth. Downfall is that if you do a spectral scan it takes the radio out of whatever mode you have and it drops the use of the antenna for anything other than the analyzer. Expected and understandable, however. No problem with that. It now has the ability to set Static Routes. It's about time! I will be playing with that little feature, off network of course, for the next couple of days. And I can now manually set the time zone and date. I would have thought that to be a no brainer from the get go but it's finally included. Still waiting for VPN functions. I can always dream. Anyone trying it? Let me know if you find any issues, I'm waiting for a bit to see what shakes out before I jump in 100%. Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. 740-335-7020 Logo5 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Outsourced Tech support options?
We are looking for a tech support option for our hotspot users only. Somewhere to send our hotspot tech support calls to after hours or when were unavailable. This would be low volume. Any ideas? Nick Olsen Network Engineer / Customer Support (321) 205-1100 x106 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] What Dual Lan Router
Depends on what you want to do with it. In terms of what to use both connections for. Failover, Load Balancing...etc... I've had good luck with the mikrotik PCC stuff when it comes to 2 upstreams that are being nat'ed. Its in the wiki somewhere. Nick Olsen Network Engineer / Customer Support (321) 205-1100 x106 From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 2:36 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] What Dual Lan Router I liked the Hotbrick and how it works but it became flaky after awhile. Switched to a Linksys and got more reliablity. I'm thinking MT woudl be best but never tried it. -RickG On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 1:33 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: What Dual Wan Routers do you recommend. I now use the Hotbrick LB2, but I is now requiring rebooting too often. Thanx NGL WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
