[WISPA] Job Posting

[Robert Zeff via Wireless]

Broadband Installer and Field Service Technician


Broadband Installation Technician and Wireless troubleshooter

  Nikola Broadband is looking to fill an immediate position for a Broadband
Installation Technician with a strong network and wireless troubleshooting
skills.
   The person we are looking to hire for this job will have excellent
communication skills, be computer literate, and possess at least an
intermediate level ability to troubleshoot a fixed wireless network. 
   These skills include finding the line of sight paths for wireless
connectivity, judging signal levels adequate to provide a reliable service,
and the ability to read and understand terrain maps.  This role also
requires a working knowledge of TCP/IP networking and basic network
troubleshooting. 

 

Responsibilities will include:

·Supporting and installing both fixed wireless broadband, and
fiber-optic internet installations

·Speak with customers in person, to provide broadband service and
troubleshooting

·Maintain a positive image of Nikola Broadband and its affiliates
·Assisting in the documentation and improvement of our existing
customer support systems and processes
·Keeping current on wireless technologies as they are now used, or
anticipated to be used by Nikola Broadband
·Maintaining knowledge of wireless radio vendors.  This includes
their licensing status, bandwidth, frequency, and method of operation. 


 Salary:  

 Hourly rate $20 - $34 per hour.  Negotiated compensation depends on skill
set, experience, and a commitment to maintaining the availability of
services.


 Benefits:
Paid birthday, vacation, and holiday days. Paid sick leave.  
 

Minimum Requirements:
·Solid troubleshooting and communication skills. 

·Fluent in English, both written and spoken
·Nothing that would disqualify a candidate from being insurable
while driving a company vehicle, or having access to sensitive records. 
·Comfortable working safely at heights, and while using a fall
arrest harness. 

·The work environment will include enclosed spaces and the
requirement to lift radios into position.

 

Our preferred candidates:

Will have the following qualifications: 
·Specific interest in and knowledge of wireless radio and
fiber-optic broadband deployments. 
·Hours are Monday - Friday 9:00 am to 5:30 pm  This position does
require participation in an on-call rotation schedule.
 
 We offer:
·A valued role at a local Internet company with over 14 years of
operational experience
·A variety of occupational duties & advanced learning environment
·A "promote from within" culture, including the possibility of rapid
advancement
·A compensation package above the industry standard offering. 


 Contact:

Please send a résumé highlighting your applicable skills and experience to
 j...@nikolabroadband.com

 

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[WISPA] Job Posting

[Robert Zeff]

Nikola Broadband

Sequim, WA, USA

Wireless Broadband Installer/Technician/Customer Service

Nikola Broadband is looking for a full-time Wireless Broadband Installer/
Technician/Customer Service rep. The person we will hire for this job will
be computer literate, have radio roof mount experience and should be a SELF
STARTER.  Job roles will rotate with existing employees as required.

Installer responsibilities will include:

. Broadband Wireless Installations

. Customer Computer configuration

. Climbing ladders and roofs

. Working with Power Tools and Equipment

. Driving to Customer Location

. Speak with customers on the phone and in person to provide Broadband
Installation Services and troubleshooting

. Maintain positive image of Nikola Broadband and its affiliates
. Continually improve knowledge of equipment and technologies used by Nikola
Broadband
. Formal education in networking or electrical engineering is a plus

Requirements include having a caring attitude towards customer needs and
expectations, positive mental attitude, a willingness to learn our systems
and express positive ways to improve our systems. Have great installation
skills and the ability and willingness to handle customer interaction in a
professional and courteous manner. .

Hours are Monday - Friday 9:00 am to 5:30 pm. 
Must have excellent driving record.

We offer:

. A leading local Broadband Wireless Internet company with over 14 years of
operation experience

. A very busy but exciting work environment

. A living wage

. A great employer

 

Contact: Send resume to: j...@nikolabroadband.com
 

Or call 360-582-1051

 

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[WISPA] Job Posting

[Robert Zeff]

Nikola Broadband

Sequim, WA, USA

Wireless Broadband Installer/Technician/Customer Service

Nikola Broadband is looking for a full-time Wireless Broadband Installer/
Technician/Customer Service rep. The person we will hire for this job will
be computer literate, have radio roof mount experience and should be a SELF
STARTER.  Job roles will rotate with existing employees as required.

Installer responsibilities will include:

. Broadband Wireless Installations

. Customer Computer configuration

. Climbing ladders and roofs

. Working with Power Tools and Equipment

. Driving to Customer Location

. Speak with customers on the phone and in person to provide Broadband
Installation Services and troubleshooting

. Maintain positive image of Nikola Broadband and its affiliates
. Continually improve knowledge of equipment and technologies used by Nikola
Broadband
. Formal education in networking or electrical engineering is a plus

Requirements include having a caring attitude towards customer needs and
expectations, positive mental attitude, a willingness to learn our systems
and express positive ways to improve our systems. Have great installation
skills and the ability and willingness to handle customer interaction in a
professional and courteous manner. .

Hours are Monday - Friday 9:00 am to 5:30 pm. 
Must have excellent driving record.

We offer:

. A leading local Broadband Wireless Internet company with over 14 years of
operation experience

. A very busy but exciting work environment

. A living wage

. A great employer

 

Contact: Send resume to: j...@nikolabroadband.com
 

Or call 360-582-1051

 

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[WISPA] Service in Finger Lakes?

[Robert Doty]

Hello WISPA community,

Does anyone offer service in the Finger Lakes area of New York; 
specifically the stretch between Keuka and Seneca lakes?

Thanks,
Rob

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Re: [WISPA] Test

[Robert]

Seems to be reversing, not rtnapssonig...

On 7/25/18 2:29 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
> ...em ot enif smeeS
> 
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> 
> On Wed, Jul 25, 2018, 5:25 PM  > wrote:
> 
> Darn! Its STILL transposing letters. Will someone please fix the
> server?
> 
> __ __
> 
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org
>   > *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 25, 2018 3:25 PM
> *To:* WISPA General List  >
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Test
> 
> __ __
> 
> tseT
> 
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> 
> __ __
> 
> On Wed, Jul 25, 2018, 3:21 PM Blair Davis  > wrote:
> 
> Test
> 
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> Allegan, Michigan  49010
> 269-686-8648
> 
> A Division of:
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Re: [WISPA] 900MHz band

[Robert Andrews]

& he said deflecting, not eliminating...

On 06/21/2018 01:55 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
>  >>> Isn't the device FCC certified?
> 
> That is no a valid 'defense' when it comes to tracking down the source 
> of interference.
> It is a position that helps in deflecting potential liability, which the 
> 2nd phase of the 'let's find who is messing with the spectrum process' .
> 
> Regards.
> 
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> http://www.snappytelecom.net
> 
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
> 
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
> 
> 
> 
> *From: *"Josh Luthman" 
> *To: *"WISPA General List" 
> *Sent: *Thursday, June 21, 2018 3:59:25 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] 900MHz band
> 
> Isn't the device FCC certified?
> 
> 
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> 
> On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 3:57 PM, Steve Barnes  > wrote:
> 
> We had an issue this week where we had a Power company have a
> 50K licensed band at 901.152 Mhz for power meter reading.  We
> have still a few older links that are 900MHz on Yagi’s to
> individuals in deep woods.  I had to move channels all over the
> place as a 902-912MHz 10Mhz channel with UBNT does not have edge
> filters that don’t pollute down to 901MHz.  So moving to the
> middle of the band cleaned up the noise on their license.
> 
> Now they are claiming that 10MHz channel width in the 900MHz ISM
> band is Illegal.  That the channel width is to be no larger than
> 8MHz. I have read all kinds of ISM docs from the FCC and I see
> no mention of max channel widths.  They made mention of talking
> to the FCC if we didn’t fix the issue.
> 
> Proof they are wrong any one?   This is a national company with
> a $10K Anritsu analyzer they hired in to find the noise.
> 
> *Steve Barnes*
> 
> Wireless Operations Manager
> 
> *New Lisbon Broadband*
> 
> *NLBC.COM *
> 
> *PCSWIN.COM *
> 
> 765-584-2288 ext:1101
> 
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Re: [WISPA] I though cambium had surge protection?

[Robert]

When the magic smoke just has to get out asap!

On 7/22/17 2:46 PM, Scott Carullo wrote:
> Lol
> image1.PNG
> 
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> Technical Operations
> 855-FLSPEED x102
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[WISPA] Coverage west of Pittsburgh PA

[Robert Dillon]

Do any of you offer coverage in the area near the western PA area near the
Pittsburgh airport?  We have a customer that moved business into that area
and is struggling to find a 15/15Mb business connection.  There are no other
carriers in that area providing what he needs so I told him I'd see what I
could do.

 

If you offer service or know of someone that does please reply to me off
list.

 

Thank you.

 

Robert Dillon

In the Stix Broadband LLC, Co-Owner

814-472-2662 Office

 <mailto:rdil...@itxbb.net> rdil...@itxbb.net

 <http://www.itxbb.net/> www.itxbb.net

 

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Re: [WISPA] Static IP Pricing

[Robert Dillon]

We also charge $5/IP/Mo for residential customers and one free IP for
business customers with $5/IP/Mo for additional IPs.  For subnet routed
customer IPs we do each on a case by case basis but that is very rare for
us.

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Simon Westlake
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2017 10:29 AM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Static IP Pricing

 

When I was at TWC, we would give out up to a /24 to a customer if they could
justify it. Beyond that, we'd push them to go to ARIN. This was on fiber, if
they were on coax, it was super expensive (like $50+ for a /29)

There was list pricing on the static IPs, but it was one of the first things
to be discounted in negotiation. That being said, this was ~7 years ago. I
would look at what it will cost you to buy a /24 on the auction block, and
charge enough to be able to replace your IPs as you run out - that would be
the simplest justification. It's hard to compare to AT, as they probably
have a lot of unused space, and a lot more resources to be able to obtain
more.

On 2/2/2017 9:20 AM, Colton Conor wrote:

Agreed, but I need to be able to justify this pricing somehow. What does
AT charge if you get their Fiber MIS product? Is it unlimited with
justification or what? What are most fiber providers doing even the ones
that have extremely large blocks? 

 

On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 9:14 AM, Tim Way  wrote:

Life in IPv4 is getting more expensive as scarcity increases.

 

On Feb 2, 2017 9:13 AM, "Colton Conor"  wrote:

So a /26 has 64 total IPs, but only 62 are useable. So you are saying you
would charge $5 - $10 per IP times 62 IPs? The cost of their statics would
then cost more than the actual service?

 

On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 8:44 AM, Scott Pope  wrote:

We charge $8.50 per month/per IP for our Static IP addresses.  This has been
our pricing for 10+ years.   

 




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Network and Operations Officer

Arbuckle Communications, LLC

Office: 580-226-1234  

Mobile: 580-277-1108  

sp...@arbucklecomm.com

www.arbucklecomm.com

"We Are Built For Business"

 

 

On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 7:16 AM, Troy Gibson, Byhalia.net 
wrote:

$5/month/IP

 

 

 

Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

 

 Original message 

From: Judd Dare  

Date: 2/1/17 9:28 PM (GMT-05:00) 

To: WISPA General List  

Subject: Re: [WISPA] Static IP Pricing 

 

Typical cost is around $1-2/IP/Month with various fiber providers.

I've been planning to charge something like $10-20/IP/Mo for commercial in
order to only sell to people who really need it.

 

On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 7:22 PM, Colton Conor  wrote:

How much do you charge business customers for static IPs? 

 

Comcast Business class cable internet charges

 1 - $14.95/mo.

 5 - $19.95/mo

 13 - $34.95/mo.

 

What do fiber providers charge?

 

I have a potential client that currently has a /27 with his current
provider, and would like at least a /27 or preferably a /26 from us.

 

We only have a /21 worth of space from ARIN. 


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Re: [WISPA] What my spies are talking about

[Robert]

Department of redundancy department?

On 1/26/17 6:55 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
> Crown is just the latest in a series of fiber-related acquisitions Crown
> has done.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
>
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
>
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
> 
>
> The Brothers WISP 
> 
> 
> *From: *"Faisal Imtiaz" 
> *To: *"WISPA General List" 
> *Sent: *Thursday, January 26, 2017 8:40:46 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] What my spies are talking about
>
>
>
> Just to add to that
>
> a) Take all what Brian said below, and add to it the fact that, in many
> cities they are very quietly installing Micro-Pops, every few blocks,
> fiber feed (essentially replacing street light poles with, poles which
> are light poles and micropops).
>
> b) The noise and developments in LTE-U
>
> c) The very strange, over-priced acquisition of FPL-Fibernet by Crown Castle
>
> d) Relatively quite conversion, installation of GPON system on every
> building that ATT had a Metro Ethernet presence in.
>
> e) Hype and noise about Gigabit fiber delivery, installation of fiber
> based service in select areas, ATT Conversion of their select IFTL
> neighborhoods to Gigabit fiber..
>
> f) The rumblings about Cable Co's moving over the Docsis 3
>
> Granted that this is not ubiquitous across the nation.. but I can see
> the competitive service providers could easily be starved out by the
> choke hold on being able to deliver/buy/have access to  fat pipe
> especially in the middle mile.
>
> I think in most major metro areas the perceived minimum base level of
> service offering is going to hit high triple digit numbers in terms of
> bandwidth i.e. 200meg,300meg,500meg etc... we are already seeing
> customer expectations  /  perceptions around 100meg.
>
> Regards
>
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
> - Original Message -
>> From: "Brian Webster" 
>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2017 11:46:38 PM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] What my spies are talking about
>
>> Remember, Verizon bought XO Communications. XO has 24 GHz and 39 GHz
>> spectrum over most of the country, so now Verizon owns that spectrum. They
>> seem to be taking the same approach Windstream and Google are for last
> mile
>> connectivity, but Verizon owns the spectrum. Windstream is leasing
> spectrum
>> in these same bands from Straightpath (http://straightpath39.com/) and
>> Google is looking to build in 70 and 80 GHz with E-Band licenses.  All of
>> the sudden the WISP industry looks good enough for the big boys to do it
>> too. Cambridge Networks has PTMP radios for these bands already, 600
> meg per
>> sector. Hang them on the fiber at the pole and create a very small
> cell type
>> system. This will work great for backhaul on their Pico cellular network
>> expansion for LTE/Cellular as well as a good tool for FTTH and Business
>> class circuits.
>>
>> http://cbnl.com/vectastar-600
>>
>> http://cbnl.com/vectastar-platform-introduction
>>
>>
>> Thank You,
>> Brian Webster
>> www.wirelessmapping.com
>> www.Broadband-Mapping.com
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Fred Goldstein
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2017 3:19 PM
>> To: wireless@wispa.org
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] What my spies are talking about
>>
>> On 1/25/2017 11:58 AM, Marco Coelho wrote:
>>> Some of my friends at Verizon are talking a major shift in their Fiber
>>> Deployment.
>>> They have decided Fiber to the Home is non practical.  They have
>>> adopted a fiber to the pedestal scheme with the last part of the
>>> connectivity being wireless to the home.  Details on bands used have
>>> not been provided, but that is apparently their new model. They have
>>> sold their copper plant in Texas to Frontier as a part of this plan.
>>> Interesting times.
>>
>> That's right.  FiOS is basically over, for new builds. Too expensive.
> It is
>> mostly down to some FTTPR (fiber to the press release). They told Boston
>> that they would build FiOS there. Lots of good press last year.
>> But they actually had built out some neighborhoods about a decade ago, and
>> simply not activated it. So now they're 

Re: [WISPA] Cybermonday deals?

[Robert]

Like the website that I always wanted to bring up...  "Buy a clue- $1" 
Figured it would rake it in...

On 11/28/16 7:48 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
> Yes. I'm asking customers to pay us $5 for no reason.
>
> On Nov 28, 2016, at 10:05, Gino Villarini  > wrote:
>
>>
>> Anyone doing Cybermonday deals?
>>
>> here’s ours:
>>
>> http://www.aeronetpr.com/cybermonday/
>>
>> *//*
>>
>> *//*
>>
>> */Gino Villarini/*
>>
>> President
>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot service for MT

[Robert Clark]

I to have been using radius manager
For about 8 years


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Dan Harling
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 10:44 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot service for MT

On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 9:58 AM, Scott Piehn  wrote:
> I am looking for recommendations from anyone using a radius server for 
> MT hotspot authentication and billing for temporary service.  Ours 
> needs to be replaced

We've been using RadiusManager, albeit on a modest scale, for years.

Daniel Harling  <><
Engineering, Cape Ann Communications
183 Main Street, Gloucester, MA  01930
harl...@capeanncomm.com
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Re: [WISPA] CenturyLink ... Will They Work With A WISP?

[Robert Dillon]

We have used a Century Link 100Mb circuit for years since it was taken over 
from Qwest in our area.  It is a solid circuit, but quite pricey.  We have 
moved away from it a few years ago.  Per megabit went down to a 1/4 of the 
price of Century Link.



-Rob



From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of tandr...@ncidata.com
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 11:57 AM
To: joe.mil...@dslbyair.com; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] CenturyLink ... Will They Work With A WISP?



>From my experience they are outrageously overpriced.



-Tim A



From: Joe   Miller

Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 8:46 AM

To: 'WISPA General   List'

Subject: Re: [WISPA] CenturyLink ... Will They Work With A WISP?



I have had some not so good experiences with their bonded T-1’s in the past. 
Maybe things have gotten better now.



From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Tim Way
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 10:41 AM
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Subject: [WISPA] CenturyLink ... Will They Work With A WISP?



Does anyone have experience working with CenturyLink in regards to getting a 
proper circuit from that will legally allow you to resell bandwidth on it? In 
particular I know of a remote area that can get residential DSL but for miles 
and miles after that there is nothing. My hope is CenturyLink would convert 
that a business service would allow me to resell it. I'd be willing to extend 
from there outwards into areas that are completely without non satellite or 
cellular service.



Some quick Google work shows up only 1 relevant result and it would seem I 
would need to be a CLEC to make that work.



Being the peach they are usually to work with just looking for what others have 
experienced before I try to work through some phone trees at CenturyLink.



Thanks,



Tim

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Re: [WISPA] CenturyLink ... Will They Work With A WISP?

[Robert Clark]

We have their fiber product they actually beat all other quotes for our area 
you do need to look at their contract closely we forced them to rewrite it to 
make it ok to resale we have a great sales guy so if you need anything else 
feel free to hit me off list





From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of tandr...@ncidata.com
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 9:12 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] CenturyLink ... Will They Work With A WISP?



Yep, It was for re-distribution. Before the Merger/buyout we were quoted 800 a 
month for a 100mb Port with 100/100 Capacity. After the merger

the price is $4000 a month.



-Tim A



From: Tim Way 

Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 8:59 AM

To: WISPA General List 

Subject: Re: [WISPA] CenturyLink ... Will They Work With A WISP?



Thanks for the replies guys. So from both of your perspectives you were able to 
get legal service from them but you either had performance or cost issues?



Thanks,



Tim



On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 10:57 AM,  wrote:

>From my experience they are outrageously overpriced.



-Tim A



From: Joe Miller 

Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 8:46 AM

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Subject: Re: [WISPA] CenturyLink ... Will They Work With A WISP?



I have had some not so good experiences with their bonded T-1’s in the past. 
Maybe things have gotten better now.



From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Tim Way
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 10:41 AM
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Subject: [WISPA] CenturyLink ... Will They Work With A WISP?



Does anyone have experience working with CenturyLink in regards to getting a 
proper circuit from that will legally allow you to resell bandwidth on it? In 
particular I know of a remote area that can get residential DSL but for miles 
and miles after that there is nothing. My hope is CenturyLink would convert 
that a business service would allow me to resell it. I'd be willing to extend 
from there outwards into areas that are completely without non satellite or 
cellular service.



Some quick Google work shows up only 1 relevant result and it would seem I 
would need to be a CLEC to make that work.



Being the peach they are usually to work with just looking for what others have 
experienced before I try to work through some phone trees at CenturyLink.



Thanks,



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[WISPA] Weather: Was...Re: AirFiber Snow issues

[Robert]

I think that the changes in the weather are throwing the models off. Our 
forecasts lately have been luck to be accurate 2-3 days out... This last 
blast of weather, arriving Sunday-Monday wasn't on the forecast till 
last night...

On 01/10/2015 06:10 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
 I don't think the rain regions are accurate any longer, given the more
 intense storms that happen in many areas.



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 *To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 *Sent: *Saturday, January 10, 2015 8:06:23 AM
 *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] AirFiber Snow issues

 You must not get very heavy rains or just put it up yesterday.  :-p



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 *From: *Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com
 *To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 *Sent: *Friday, January 9, 2015 10:42:27 AM
 *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] AirFiber Snow issues

 Naw I have yet to have my 1.5 mile airFiber go down or even
 de-modulate past 6x in rain.


 Matt Hoppes
 Director of Information Technology
 Indigo Wireless
 +1 (570) 723-7312

 On 1/9/15 11:34 AM, Adair Winter wrote:
   good luck with 99.999% uptime if it rains a lot in your area.
  
   On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 10:28 AM, Robert Clark rcl...@boltinternet.com
   mailto:rcl...@boltinternet.com wrote:
  
   Looking at acquiring AirFiber back haul but I am concerned that the
   front of the antenna is very flat and that snow would stick to it
   and degrade and possibly take down the link?
  
   Has anyone seen this 
  
   We will be using them on a 2 mile link and need 99.999 uptime
  
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[WISPA] AirFiber Snow issues

[Robert Clark]

Looking at acquiring AirFiber back haul but I am concerned that the front of
the antenna is very flat and that snow would stick to it and degrade and
possibly take down the link?

Has anyone seen this 

We will be using them on a 2 mile link and need 99.999 uptime

 

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Re: [WISPA] BGR on 3.5

[Robert]

Cool, Google should buy up a huge swath of 3GHz spectrum at auction and 
Give it to the public...   Makes sense to me  :)

On 01/06/2015 03:30 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
 http://bgr.com/2015/01/06/google-vs-verizon-att-wireless/

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Re: [WISPA] Happy New Year. BE SAFE!

[Robert Andrews]

What a great Wife Seriously a keeper!


On 12/31/2014 01:58 PM, Patrick Leary wrote:


God help the Leary family. My wife just walked in with an armful of 
fireworks. I've four kids 9-13. Currently they have all their fingers 
and toes. Oochie momma.


Happy New everyone.

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Re: [WISPA] Happy New Year. BE SAFE!

[Robert Andrews]

 thinks about population control at the same time!!!


On 12/31/2014 02:12 PM, Patrick Leary wrote:


And smart and beautiful too!

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*On Behalf Of *Robert Andrews

*Sent:* Wednesday, December 31, 2014 5:12 PM
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*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Happy New Year. BE SAFE!

What a great Wife Seriously a keeper!

On 12/31/2014 01:58 PM, Patrick Leary wrote:

God help the Leary family. My wife just walked in with an armful
of fireworks. I've four kids 9-13. Currently they have all their
fingers and toes. Oochie momma.

Happy New everyone.

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Re: [WISPA] AF24 HD Annouced

[Robert]

on the 6K price, I agree with the licensed link comments and we are just
about to pull that trigger and this does NOT compete with a licensed
link at that price...

On 12/17/2014 11:13 AM, Ben Moore wrote:
 Here is one of the first units deployed:
 
 http://community.ubnt.com/t5/airFiber-Stories/AF24HD/cns-p/1131208
 
 On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com
 mailto:j...@spitwspots.com wrote:
 
 Working great at six miles here in Alaska.
 
 On December 17, 2014 9:58:58 AM AKST, Tim Reichhart
 timreichh...@hometowncable.net
 mailto:timreichh...@hometowncable.net wrote:
 
 Here is my issue the af24 wouldnt work for me since I live in
 the Midwest and we get rain etc... it would only work about an
 mile or so not 8 mile shots when can you guys get an working
 24Ghz airfiber to work in these types of weather climates?
 
 Tim
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com
 mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 mailto:wireless@wispa.org
 Date: 12/17/14 01:56 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] AF24 HD Annouced
 
 and 50% more range...
  
 On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 11:54 AM, Josh Reynolds
 j...@spitwspots.com mailto:j...@spitwspots.com wrote:
 
 500Mbps technically :)
  
 
 On December 17, 2014 9:52:55 AM AKST, Gino Villarini
 g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote:
 
 Dang! 2x price for 250 mbps more, ouch!
 
 
 
 Gino A. Villarini
 President
 Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
 www.aeronetpr.com http://www.aeronetpr.com  
 @aeronetpr
 
 
  
  
 
 From: ben.mo...@ubnt.com
 mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com ben.mo...@ubnt.com
 mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com
 Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 mailto:wireless@wispa.org
 Date: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 at 2:48 PM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 mailto:wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] AF24 HD Annouced
 
  
 Hi Gino - 
 
 Initial shipments are in transit to distributors so
 units will be received in early to mid January.
 
 MSRP is $6k/link.
 
 Thanks,
 Ben
  
  
 On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 11:45 AM, Gino Villarini
 g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote:
 
 Just got a email from UBNT
 
 AF24HD announced, similar to AF24, bigger Rx
 dish (40db) 256 qam 1 Gbps Fdx
 
 http://www.ubnt.com/airfiber/airfiber24/
 
 No pricing or availability info, Ben?
 
 
 
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 Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
 www.aeronetpr.com http://www.aeronetpr.com  
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Re: [WISPA] AeroNetPR wants to share this story

[Robert Andrews]

Well it's the invisible 800 lb gorilla for the rest of the tech in the 
Internet...



On 12/17/14 5:45 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:


Uhm not sure that's the industry that would sway something like that...

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Dec 17, 2014 8:39 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net 
mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:


If porn chooses WiMAX will it come back?



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*From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
*To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
mailto:wireless@wispa.org
*Sent: *Wednesday, December 17, 2014 7:37:06 PM
*Subject: *Re: [WISPA] AeroNetPR wants to share this story

Well Wimax vs LTE I think was won when Verizon decided on it.

It's like Bluray vs HDDVD - porn chose Bluray. Or Beta vs VHS -
porn chose VHS.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 8:18 PM, Patrick Leary
patrick.le...@telrad.com mailto:patrick.le...@telrad.com wrote:

Really, Guys, you are sounding like silly kids. Remind about
it being just like WiMAX as you pull that LTE phone out of
your pocket.

*Patrick Leary*

***M*727.501.3735 tel:727.501.3735

http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet


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mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
*Sent:* Wednesday, December 17, 2014 8:09 PM
*To:* WISPA General List
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] AeroNetPR wants to share this story

The next idea is always a better one.



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*From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
*To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
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*Sent: *Wednesday, December 17, 2014 7:08:04 PM
*Subject: *Re: [WISPA] AeroNetPR wants to share this story

5 years ago it was WiMAX vs LTE. Didn't people say the same
thing you are now about WiMAX?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
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Suite 1337
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On Dec 17, 2014 7:06 PM, Patrick Leary
patrick.le...@telrad.com mailto:patrick.le...@telrad.com
wrote:

Not sure I understand the question in the sense WiMAX does not
belong in the discussion. WiMAX was always at best a nichey
thing, embraced by almost no large operator, save for a
variety of small country fixed operators, not a global
standard operating across most bands and universally accepted
by carriers.

Just as Wi-Fi has subsumed pretty much everything else in
local area wireless (and is now in fact synonymous with WLAN),
LTE will do the same for PMP outdoor beyond commonly accepted
Wi-Fi ranges (WISP Wi-Fi ranges are not commonly accepted in a
macro market sense, but rather exist as a proprietary model
for a deeply niche market).

*Patrick Leary*

*M*727.501.3735 tel:727.501.3735

http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet


*From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org
mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
*Sent:* Wednesday, December 17, 2014 6:22 PM
*To:* WISPA General List
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] AeroNetPR wants to share this story

5 years ago, how did it look with Wimax and LTE?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 6:20 PM, Patrick Leary
patrick.le...@telrad.com mailto:patrick.le...@telrad.com
wrote:

   

Re: [WISPA] Grounding hardware/connector to bus bar

[Robert Nickerson]

Grounding lug

RAN

On 12/5/2014 6:54 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
 Does anyone know what these things are called (the double hole terminal
 that goes in the bus bar)?  Goes to 6 gauge grounding wire.

 http://imgur.com/MXMVHKi

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Re: [WISPA] groundcontrol....

[Robert]

Which brings up the question who amid this motley crew is Major Tom?
Or is that the devices?

On 12/03/2014 01:44 PM, Patrick Leary wrote:
 to Major Tom
 
  
 
 Sorry, the song's been in my head since this thread popped up.
 
  
 
 *Patrick Leary*
 
 ***M*727.501.3735
 
 http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet
 
  
 
  
 
 *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
 *Sent:* Wednesday, December 03, 2014 4:07 PM
 *To:* WISPA General List
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] groundcontrol project
 
  
 
 Didn't they change the provisioning mechanism in aircontrol 2? I thought
 they had moved from SSH to something that was supposed to be more efficient.
  
 
 
 
 *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
 [wireless-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Josh Reynolds
 [j...@spitwspots.com]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, December 03, 2014 2:56 PM
 *To:* wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] groundcontrol project
 
 I've done a bit of work previously to reverse engineering the
 provisioning mechanism, and I see nothing that would be a problem
 collecting stats via that method. You'd still have to use groundcontrol
 to initially connect/provision the units first to exchange SSH keys, and
 you'd want it to be on a different ip that your previous aircontrol server.
 
 A nasty thing about ubnt provisioning... if you replace the server on
 the same ip or a different ip, all of the radios that were previously
 provisioned will always try to connect to the old ip/server, which
 causes quite a bit of arp traffic.
 
  one thing I'd like to do is create a cleanup tool for that,
 though pssh (parallel ssh) + wireshark helped me clean up that mess
 manually in the past.
 
 josh reynolds :: chief information officer
 
 spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com
 
 On 12/03/2014 11:09 AM, Randy Cosby wrote:
 
 Would it pay to see if UBNT would allow us to continue to use some
 of the provisioning mechanisms built into the radios for
 aircontrol?  It's nice to have subscriber units phone home.
 
 On 12/3/2014 12:39 PM, Jay Weekley wrote:
 
 I was wondering if that might come about. Maybe another wisp that 
 uses 
 
 their own software might offer something.
 
  
 
 Mike Hammett wrote:
 
 Further driven by today's post that summed up says, We don't 
 care 
 
 what you want. This is what you get.
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
 -
 
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 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 
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 *From: *Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com 
 mailto:j...@spitwspots.com
 
 *To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org 
 mailto:wireless@wispa.org, Ubiquiti Users 
 
 Group ubnt_us...@wispa.org mailto:ubnt_us...@wispa.org, 
 a...@afmug.com mailto:a...@afmug.com
 
 *Sent: *Wednesday, December 3, 2014 1:19:23 PM
 
 *Subject: *[WISPA] groundcontrol project
 
  
 
 For those of you who haven't heard, several of us started a new 
 
 project yesterday.
 
  
 
 https://github.com/esseph/groundcontrol
 
  
 
 Licensing is tentatively set as falling under GPLv2.
 
  
 
 We have already been offered code snippets, a dev box, a db 
 server, 
 
 and several people have decided to volunteer time to make this 
 happen.
 
  
 
 The initial idea is that the system itself will be free, with a 
 
 possibly paid support/features option, or maybe a model similar 
 to 
 
 observium where the is a community (free as in beer) version 
 that 
 
 comes out every 6mo or so, and a paid version with newer 
 features 
 
 and direct support. We're not sure yet, but we want to make this 
 
 project accessible and fairly vendor-neutral.
 
  
 
 If any of you could volunteer time, support, code, documentation, 
 
 ideas, etc.it would be greatly appreciated. This is a project by 
 and 
 
 for the WISP community. Thank you!
 
 -- 
 
 josh reynolds :: chief information officer
 
 spitwspots ::www.spitwspots.com
 
  
 
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[WISPA] Trick or Treat?

[Robert]

Just got a Zayo warning   Note the two differing impacts  they were
separated by one line in the notice...Well zayo, what is it going to
be...LOL


Reason for Maintenance: Zayo power contractors will perform circuit
breaker upgrade

Expected Impact: PSA - High (Possibly Service Affecting w/ high
probability of customer impact)

Circuit(s) Affected:

Circuit ID


Impact


A Loc


Z Loc



No Expected Impact


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Re: [WISPA] Trick or Treat?

[Robert Andrews]

They  sent me a reply of why it's like that   CYA...


On 11/19/2014 08:52 AM, Adair Winter wrote:

Every maintenance notice they send is like this. it makes no sense.

On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Robert nos...@avantwireless.com 
mailto:nos...@avantwireless.com wrote:


Just got a Zayo warning   Note the two differing impacts  they
were
separated by one line in the notice...Well zayo, what is it
going to
be...LOL


Reason for Maintenance: Zayo power contractors will perform circuit
breaker upgrade

Expected Impact: PSA - High (Possibly Service Affecting w/ high
probability of customer impact)

Circuit(s) Affected:

Circuit ID


Impact


A Loc


Z Loc



No Expected Impact


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Re: [WISPA] Quick Question: Title II, for or against?

[Robert Andrews]

Net Neutrality is the magician waving his hands so we all look at that 
while the real magic is the mergers that make it all moot... 
Everybody, watch the hand...Don't watch the other one that is 
reaching into your back pocket...Mergers are good for 
politicians...   Bigger companies write way bigger checks to politicians...



On 11/19/2014 09:26 AM, Sean Heskett wrote:
Title II is designed to breakup monopolies (i.e. Railroads, MaBell, 
Electric, Gas etc.)  everyone acts like it is the Holy Grail of free 
market capitalism to have the government step in and regulate 
everything your company wants to do. /scarcasm


I'm not a monopoly...I have done nothing to deserve heavy handed 
government regulation oversight of everything i do.


This Net Neutrality BS is just that BS...They are trying to fix a 
problem that doesn't exist yet.


The real problem is that consumers have only the CableCo and TelCo as 
options for purchasing internet.  The government instead of regulating 
should encourage competition in the free market.  WISPs are one such 
competitor.


The government should also stop turning a blind eye to mergers like 
the Comcast  Time Warner merger that only exacerbates the problem and 
will lead us to the MaBell situation where you can get internet from 
one source only.


2 Cents

-sean

On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 8:50 AM, Tim Way t...@way.vg 
mailto:t...@way.vg wrote:


Here is my confusion on this issue. Everyone is acting like it is
the great harbinger for Internet companies. One of the biggest
problems I have is lack of clear information. I'm not saying I
have any of those answers for certainty but I will point a few
things I have picked up meanwhile donning my flame proof cap.

  * Requires us to be able to provide per service reporting of
traffic (I think of it as a port span or flow-analysis of a
particular service user, which is fairly easy to do and you
should already be able to do this)
  * Talks about potentially a 16% fee on service. This will not
make you shut your doors big or small because every provider
will have to do this and I can assure you in the long run no
one is eating that cost but the consumer. Also this is
fundamentally good for rural Americans. Rural areas have phone
service because of that fund when used properly. Now it would
include proper broadband access. This is the only risk I see
to the WISP model. There is nothing that says you can't play
both sides and become a participant in utilizing the USF to
build out infrastructure even if that means doing scary things
like diving into ground models like fiber.
  * The biggest one I have is fair treatment of traffic. To me
this is the default way to run an ISP. I don't want an ISP
that slows down certain traffic and I definitely don't want to
be the service provider that does that. I'd rather see more
guaranteed bandwidth numbers and a flatter pricing scheme even
if that means a higher cost to the consumer. What I mean by
that is if you deploy 100mbps of service to an area and you
start signing up users and all the sudden you are promising
everyone 20% over what you can provide them at the head-end
don't use the words up to in your service agreement. Either
adjust the service speeds to control the talking on a head-end
radio or make adjustments to your architecture to accommodate
the bursts in traffic. What that might mean is more smaller
cells to service an area and yes that costs money. Nothing is
free in this world so if it costs X dollars to provide Y
services to consumers that want Y then such is life. No on
complains when they need to upgrade their electrical service
at home because they want to run more equipment or devices. If
that means I as the consumer that wants to stream HD Netflix
in 4 rooms has to upgrade my service then so be it. The
provider (You/Me) can then build out our infrastructure to
accommodate that need at the cost you and your customer agree
on or he/she just decides that their bandwidth needs doesn't
match the price point to achieve what they are trying to do
and goes back to buying DVDs through Amazon. This also works
on the upstream, as a small WISP do you really want to be on
the receiving end of a big provider possibly your only option
for decent upstream connectivity to suddenly start slowing
down certain types of traffic? Then you are faced with trying
to provide a service that your customers might demand without
any ability other than potentially an extremely expensive one
to fill that need. I think it is always better to not shape
traffic for customers. Let them manage their connection to 

Re: [WISPA] Quick Question: Title II, for or against?

[Robert]

Ah the days of Covad, Northpoint, etc..   Racing to get high speed
internet to needy customers on VC dollars not knowing that behind their
backs a quick regulation change would make all that easy pickings for
the incumbents...   Those who do not learn from history are doomed to
repeat it..  Fred, please gaze into your magic ball of the past and give
us a clue to our future?  Are our collective necks starting to hover
over the ax block?

On 11/19/2014 08:32 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
 Chuckle :)
 
 You all don't know who Fred is :)
 
 He has a weee bit of experience in these matters. :)
 
 I am reading this discussion about Title II and having a  dejavu !!!
 
 What you all see coming to our door steps in form of Title II via the FCC, is 
 pretty similar to what the we saw about 5 to 10 years ago on the wireline 
 side.. there it was 'de-regulation' or Forbearance from Title II 
 regulations.It is rather interesting and comical (sarcasm)  to see the 
 'regulatory pendulum' swinging in the opposite direction...I wish there is a 
 way to turn all the arguments presented and accepted by the FCC at that time 
 to grant forbearance could be re-presented to them
 
 And yes, Fred is a subject matter expert on Wireline Regulation /FCC... 
 (Think of him like a Steve Coran of the wireline world).
 
 :)
 
 
 Faisal Imtiaz
 Snappy Internet  Telecom
 7266 SW 48 Street
 Miami, FL 33155
 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
 
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 - Original Message -
 From: Eric Tykwinski eric-l...@truenet.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 7:10:11 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quick Question: Title II, for or against?

 Fred,

 It’s a little late, but damn, that was a good description of the problem.
 I’m hoping and just hoping, that Wheeler understands exactly what the problem
 really is.
 Everyone thinks Title II is a hammer both on the ILEC and the public activist
 side,
 but in reality I hope that the FCC does have a bit more common sense and see
 that competition is what will lead to the public good in the long run.

 Now if the lawyers can actually come up with something that will legally
 stick, well that’s up in the air.

 Sincerely,

 Eric Tykwinski
 TrueNet, Inc.
 P: 610-429-8300
 F: 610-429-3222

 On Nov 19, 2014, at 6:04 PM, Kevin Sullivan kevin.sulli...@alyrica.net
 wrote:

 Wow, that was well thought out. I'd say that's a pretty good assessment!

 Kevin

 - Original Message -
 From: Fred Goldstein f...@interisle.net
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 8:26 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quick Question: Title II, for or against?


 On 11/19/2014 8:49 AM, Drew Lentz wrote:
 I put up a quick poll, results will be shared and are anonymous.

 https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/3R6YTH9

 I'm curious to see what the percentages are between those that support
 and those that don't support the Title II argument. I've been trying
 to get a good feel for who would and wouldn't like it (mostly it seems
 carriers love it, web services hate it.) I have a feeling WISPs might
 be on the hate it side, but I'm interested to find out. Thanks for
 your answer and have a fantastic day!


 You asked the question very poorly, so there is no one correct answer.

 Broadband is an adjective. You don't regulate adjectives, you regulate
 nouns.  Broadband what? This is the fallacy of today's public discourse
 -- they are using this adjective as a noun without the noun, so
 different people use it to have different referents.

 I think I'm in pretty close harmony with the WISPA position here, given
 that Steve Coran chose me to help him give his NN talk in Vegas last
 month based on my detailed Comments on the topic to the FCC.  And I've
 been writing and Commenting on this for years. Several years ago I told
 the FCC that they were using this adjective as a noun, but that they
 could separate the two primary implied nouns by using a Spanish-language
 convention.  El Broadband would refer to the physical facility, the high
 speed transmission medium. La Broadband would refer to the content of
 the facility, including Internet service delivered over it.  (If you
 don't know Spanish, el radio is a device and la radio is a
 program.)  But in lawyer terms, El Broadband is the telecommunications
 component, and La Broadband is the information service riding atop it.

 The reason NN is a Thing is that the FCC, in 2005, threw away the law
 (TA96) and decided that telephone companies could stop being common
 carriers, stop providing ISPs with El Broadband (raw DSL), and simply
 sell La Broadband as a vertically-integrated service with exclusive
 access to their formerly common-carrier facilities.  So typical
 consumers in cities went from having many ISP choices (one cable company
 and many ISPs available via DSL) to two (one each cable and DSL).

 The public reaction to this was, understandably, rather negative. 

Re: [WISPA] chilly tower climb

[Robert]

I just read an article about warming the wrists and it fools your whole
body..   But that sounds kinda dangerous when you are worrying about
frostbite...

On 11/12/2014 05:23 PM, Justin Wilson wrote:
 Get some ski goggles.  Keep your eyes warm and your body won’t be so
 cold.  Proven scientific fact.
 
 Justin
 
 
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 http://www.midwest-ix.com
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 From: Marco Coelho coelh...@gmail.com mailto:coelh...@gmail.com
 Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 mailto:wireless@wispa.org
 Date: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 at 6:15 PM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] chilly tower climb
 
 Amazing how much faster I climb when it's cold outside!
 
 -- 
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 Argon Technologies Inc.
 POB 875
 Greenville, TX 75403-0875
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Re: [WISPA] isolated network hacked using fm signals... #mindblown

[Robert]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tempest_%28codename%29

On 10/29/2014 05:56 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:
 
 http://www.engadget.com/2014/10/29/fm-data-leaking/
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Mimosa B5-160 v UBNT AF5-US Chart (working)

[Robert]

Patrick,  I've never met you, but now you know what I'll be expecting
when I do happen to meet you!   LOL

On 08/07/2014 09:25 AM, Patrick Leary wrote:
 With a size 15 shoe, it's a bit like a sasquatch sighting, only more rare...
 
 Patrick Leary
  M 727.501.3735 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
 Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick
 Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2014 12:07 PM
 To: 'WISPA General List'
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mimosa B5-160 v UBNT AF5-US Chart (working)
 
 Hey!  A Patrick sighting!  
 
 
 Regards,
 
 Jeff Broadwick
 Bitlomat Sales Director
 847-238-2481 Office
 574-220-7826 Cell
 www.bitlomat.com
 https://www.facebook.com/Bitlomat
 http://www.linkedin.com/company/bitlomat
 
 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
 Behalf Of Patrick Leary
 Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2014 11:49 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mimosa B5-160 v UBNT AF5-US Chart (working)
 
 Everything old is new again. Back in the day the STANDARD was the Western 
 Multiplex Tsunami, which chewed up 100 MHz of 5 GHz ISM (upper 5 GHz) 
 spectrum...and everything in its path.
 
 Patrick Leary
  M 727.501.3735 
 
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
 Behalf Of Matt Hoppes
 Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 4:55 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mimosa B5-160 v UBNT AF5-US Chart (working)
 
 Yes... but not normally on 80MHz wide channels...
 
 On 8/6/14, 4:54 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
 It is by far and away the most prevalent method...  ;-)



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 omputingSolutionsDeKalbhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-
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 *From: *Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com
 *To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 *Sent: *Wednesday, August 6, 2014 1:03:11 PM
 *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Mimosa B5-160 v UBNT AF5-US Chart (working)

 I guess... all this backhauling in 5GHz is just making me nauseous.



 On 8/6/14, 1:48 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
 Higher one way throughput.
 More channels to choose from.
 DFS hit doesn't take your link down.
 External antennas.
 Once you add in those external antennas, there are a ton of things 
 that vary like X-pol and F/B.
 Lower power consumption.
 Standard PoE.
 Etc.




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 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com


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 omputingSolutionsDeKalbhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-
 computing-solutionshttps://twitter.com/ICSIL

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 *From: *Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com
 *To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 *Sent: *Wednesday, August 6, 2014 12:40:36 PM
 *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Mimosa B5-160 v UBNT AF5-US Chart (working)

 THanks Josh!
 I'm not sure this puts the Mimosa device in a positive spot light?

 H/V instead of cross-slant antennas.
 Pretty bad F/B compared to the airFiber.
 And latency is higher than an airFiber

 What's the amazing thing about this new device?

 On 8/5/14, 6:16 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:


 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gurmZ2nJru0e87DZuGxfipTB326NiP
 OTkLXNIXBDfdc/edit?usp=sharing

 submit comments for approval / additions please

 I'm waiting back on UBNT to help further fill in the chart, and some 
 of it I'm lazy on.

 TODO: For sure, add bandwidth / distance / modulation / signal / 
 channel width table

 Also, would like to hear Mimosa's PPS count, and see any results of 
 an
 RFC2544 test (which normally eats most wireless gear alive).

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Re: [WISPA] USAF Request - Read this is you want to keep using 5630-5800 Mhz

[Robert]

I guess, if you had any doubt, that this shows with no question the
pecking order.   How would you like to be considering an IPO and have
this as part of the Cautions in the disclosure?..I wonder what
part of the frequency properties make this band the one for this radar
or was it legacy...  If legacy, would it be a bad investment to spend
the millions or tens of millions to replace it?

On 06/12/2014 10:31 AM, Scott Carullo wrote:
 Update   Last week we (along with other RF users in the community)
 were invited to the AFB to meet the folks that run the radar there and
 to see the spectrum analyzer screens.  During this meeting, it was
 discussed that what the AF was trying to accomplish was to remove all
 users within 60Km from using 5630-5800Mhz.  It was discussed that this
 seemed to be a doomed request because of the sheer number of users in
 the spectrum within such a large geographical area.  How would they
 remove all users from this spectrum, even within several miles of the
 radar...  lots of hotels, condos, businesses etc...  literally thousands
 of them.  I'm not sure if they are going after the low hanging
 identifiable fruit or if they really plan on going door to door...  They
 said things were sort of in a holding pattern with the FCC because they
 were contacted by a WISPA rep and others and there were some discussions
 going on above our pay grade locally.
  
 Well, here we are today.  I guess the outcome of those meetings was that
 we need to stop using the spectrum identified.  Here is the email sent
 from the FCC field officer to the local range folks that was forwarded
 to me:
  
 ===
 FROM: FCC Agent
 TO: CONNOLLEY, SCOTT D GS-13 USAF AFSPC 45 SCS/SCOT 
 
 Subject:  Meeting  to  discuss  Interference  to  Radar  at  Patrick AFB 
  
 Scott,  I've  reviewed  your  report  concerning  radio  interference
  to  a  C-Band  (5  GHz)  tracking 
 radar  at  Patrick AFB.  I  understand  that  you  have  contacted
  several  of  the Wireless  Internet 
 Service  Providers  (WISP's)  in  the  area  to  advise  them  of  the
  problem  and  have  been  met  with 
 some  resistance  to  assist  you. 
 I  would  like  to  have  a  meeting  with  you  and  the WISP's  to
  discuss  this  problem  and  open  up  a 
 discussion  as  to what  steps  can  be  taken  to  find  a  solution. 
 WISP's  operate  under  Part  15  of  the  FCC  Rules  and  may  not
  cause  harmful  interference. 
 47  C.F.R.  §  15.5  General  conditions  of  operation. 
 (a)  Persons  operating  intentional  or  unintentional  radiators
  shall  not  be  deemed  to  have  any 
 vested  or  recognizable  right  to  continued  use  of  any  given
  frequency  by  virtue  of  prior 
 registration  or  certification  of  equipment,  or,  for  power  line
  carrier  systems,  on  the  basis 
 of  prior  notification  of  use  pursuant  to  §90.35(g)  of  this
  chapter. 
 (b)  Operation  of  an  intentional,  unintentional,  or  incidental
  radiator  is  subject  to  the 
 conditions  that  no  harmful  interference  is  caused  and  that
  interference  must  be  accepted  that 
 may  be  caused  by  the  operation  of  an  authorized  radio  station,
  by  another  intentional  or 
 unintentional  radiator,  by  industrial,  scientific  and  medical
  (ISM)  equipment,  or  by  an 
 incidental  radiator. 
 (c)  The  operator  of  a  radio  frequency  device  shall  be  required
  to  cease  operating  the  device 
 upon  notification  by  a  Commission  representative  that  the  device
  is  causing  harmful 
 interference.  Operation  shall  not  resume  until  the  condition
  causing  the  harmful  interference 
 has  been  corrected. 
 (d)  Intentional  radiators  that  produce  Class  B emissions  (damped
  wave)  are  prohibited. 
  
 I  propose  that  we  have  our  first meeting  on  Wednesday,  6/18/14,
  at  Patrick AFB. 
  
 Thanks, 
 Don  Roberson 
 Sr.  Agent 
 Tampa  Office 
 Enforcement  Bureau 
 FCC 
 Office:  813-348-1741  ext  105 
  
 ===
  
 So, its that easy?  Local AF guy makes a request whether reasonable or
 not, and thats the way it is?  I understand moving off the 5765Mhz and
 having guard space on either side maybe 20Mhz, but they want the whole
 band to stop being used  whether its even in the radar LOS or not, which
 is an unreasonable request, IMO.  This meeting of the minds will
 apparently happen this coming Wednesday here locally. Anyone have
 anything to add, other than good luck?
  
 Scott Carullo
 Technical Operations
 855-FLSPEED x102
 
  
 
 *From*: Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com
 *Sent*: Monday, June 02, 2014 12:49 PM
 *To*: sc...@flhsi.com
 *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] USAF Request - Read this is you want to keep
 using 5630-5800 Mhz
  
 Yes. Thanks !
  
 On 6/2/2014 9:24 AM, Scott Carullo wrote:
 Does this work:
  
 Scott Connolley, GS-13, 

Re: [WISPA] Serious rain out here

[Robert]

The most rain I've ever seen in my life was when I lived out in Denver.
  We were driving my girlfriends acura up an overpass and the water
coming off the overpass was coming over the hood and up the windshield.
  I thought the car would drown out but it was moving so fast it
literally went over us...   I made some kind of sub driver comment to
her that she didn't get.

On 05/21/2014 02:44 PM, Daniel White wrote:
 Check this out:
 
  
 
 https://twitter.com/DanielWhite84/status/469212469563383809
 
  
 
 Just found out another tornado touched down closer to a ¼ mile away from
 us.  No major damage reports I have heard of yet.
 
  
 
 http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/local-news/tornado-touches-down-in-denver-at-tower-smith-roads-sirens-heard-around-metro-area05212014
 
  
 
 Had some flooding in the warehouse – thank god everything is on shelves
 and pallets :-)
 
  
 
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 *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
 *Sent:* Wednesday, May 21, 2014 3:36 PM
 *To:* WISPA General List
 *Subject:* [WISPA] Serious rain out here
 
  
 
 Within minutes my front and back yard are flooded.  I had a 5 GHz 5 mile
 link lose 5 db (typing that made me realize how cool it was).
 
  
 
 Those of you to the east/south watch out.  Just a bit of lightning,
 nothing heavy duty.  Hoping for the best for everyone!
 
 
 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
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 Suite 1337
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Re: [WISPA] Justin Wilson?

[Robert Nickerson]

Hi

Good luck with your  project, and contact me if you need assistance.

RAN

On 5/15/2014 4:30 PM, Darin Steffl wrote:
I have been contacted and things are moving along now. He sent new 
contact information that I was never made aware of when we first started.


http://www.mtin.net/contact.html


On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 5:57 PM, TJ Trout t...@pcguys.us 
mailto:t...@pcguys.us wrote:


I also engaged Justin for a project and it never went anywhere. I
have also had the same results with other consultants. I actually
engaged Justin because my other consultant fell through. Go figure.


On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Justin Wilson li...@mtin.net
mailto:li...@mtin.net wrote:

Darin,
I will have Andrew send you an e-mail from supp...@mtin.net
mailto:supp...@mtin.net.

Just for everyone’s reference if you need to get ahold of “me”
you can do so at the following:
Phone: 317.644.2224 tel:317.644.2224
Email: supp...@mtin.net mailto:supp...@mtin.net

I wrote a little blog post this morning as kind of “therapy”
for me.  As many of you know I have been a principal in a WISP
we started after the failed sale of NDWave to another company.
http://www.mtin.net/blog/?p=50

The sale of ZigWireless has been my latest “project”.  I am
personally invested in this so my future of getting this done
has been a top priority.  So much so that everything else has
suffered as a result.  The life of a WISP. LOL.  I feel like a
“Veteran” after being in the ISP business since 1993.

Just so this isn’t just about me, if anyone wants to know my
thoughts on a sale from a tech perspective hit me up off list
and I will be glad to share.

Justin

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From: Darin Steffl darin.ste...@mnwifi.com
mailto:darin.ste...@mnwifi.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
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Date: Thursday, May 15, 2014 at 1:28 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
mailto:wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Justin Wilson?

I have been trying to get ahold of Justin Wilson who
started a project for me in April and he was out of
commission for a little bit but now I haven't heard from
him since. I have called his cell #, sent him 5 emails to
j...@mtin.net mailto:j...@mtin.net with no response and
I don't know how to get ahold of him. I see he has sent
emails out to the list multiple times in the last few
weeks but he's never responded to me.

Anyone have any special tricks to get him to talk? My
project is quite simple and he said it would take no more
than 2 hours tops but he hasn't done anything further for
me. Thanks

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Re: [WISPA] package ideas

[Robert]

Always check to see what the price add-ons are for those services...
Is AT*T charging the $5/month modem fee?  How about the USF fee?   That
$34.95 could be closer to $45 when they get done and that needs to be
clear to who you are selling to...

On 05/07/2014 10:47 PM, John Thomas wrote:
 My suggestion was only relative to your current pricing.
 
 For reference, ATT UVerse in my area is $34.95 for 6 Meg down, and 768
 k up, and when you go past 150 gigs in a month, it's $10 for each 50
 gigs. Charter is bragging about 30 megs down, and 4 megs up, capped at
 250 gig ( I think) for $29.95 (12 month promo), however, they have it
 oversubscribed so bad I have run speed tests to Charters speedtest
 server and got 30 kilobits per second down-not a good way to impress a
 $100 per month Business class customer.
 
 
 Greg Osborn gregwosb...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 It’s gotta make dollars to make sense…..  You might have to explain that
 the cable/telcos don’t come for them for that reason.  If they can’t get
 a high take rate, they can’t make money either.
 
  
 
 *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 *On Behalf Of *wi...@mncomm.com
 *Sent:* Tuesday, May 06, 2014 5:25 PM
 *To:* WISPA General List
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] package ideas
 
  
 
 is that something you’ve done and people pay for that? I need to do some
 market research for these customers. A lot of customers are “stuck” with
 me, might leave a bad taste when in town customers can get 30 meg for
 $50 or so a month. I have customers beating me for more speeds but I
 have a lot that think they are getting robbed at what they get now LOL
 
  
 
  
 
 *From:*John Thomas mailto:jtho...@quarnet.com
 
 *Sent:*Tuesday, May 06, 2014 3:51 PM
 
 *To:*WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org
 
 *Subject:*Re: [WISPA] package ideas
 
  
 
 How about adding 5 Meg at $79, then 10 Meg at $109?
 
 
 
 wi...@mncomm.com mailto:wi...@mncomm.com wrote:
 
 So, I am going to be twisting on the owners soon. I need to start
 offering different packages to our customers, getting tired of people
 wanting more speed. If they want more than everyone they need to pay for
 it. So, aside from special instances, the vast majority of our subs pay
 $45 per month for unlimited usage. No real statement on speed, but
 typically we set most to a stream of 1.6 meg or so, enough where they
 can run Netflix in basic definition with no buffering. We have some set
 to a little more depending on needs. If I can get by they usually get
 512 up  down with some bursting, but those are far and few between with
 streaming media.
 
  
 
 I was thinking of setting all of those users to 1.5 or 2 meg for the $45
 and jumping to a 5 meg package for $69 per month. I currently charge
 most businesses $69, they may not get much more speed just expedited
 service from us if they have issues. I was also thinking, if I can
 stretch it out, to 10 meg for $100 a month.
 
  
 
 We are negotiating for more bandwidth from our upstream shortly, I
 believe our towers are capable of of meeting these needs for the most
 part. If not I am hoping the prospect of selling more will offset the
 additional upgrade costs
 
  
 
 I figure if only 10 percent of the $45 customers upgraded to $69 it
 would generate an additional $50k a year.
 
  
 
 Anyways I wanted to throw it out to you folks to see what they have
 experienced in doing similar situations. I am sure I will get some back
 lash from certain areas where a competitor might be able to do something
 better or cheaper or customers that want it all for nothing, the ones
 who think they are getting screwed anyways
 
  
 
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Re: [WISPA] Small NEMA Enclosures

[Robert]

Ohhh  I like those!!!  +10!

On 04/30/2014 07:37 PM, Joe Miller wrote:
 Sam,
 
 Try
 http://www.enclosurehub.com/productcart/pc/viewCategories.asp?idCategory=925
 
 Joe
 
 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Sam
 Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 2:06 PM
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] Small NEMA Enclosures
 
 What do you guy use for small NEMA waterproof enclosures? These would be the
 size to hold three UBNT PoE and a small (four-port) switch and corresponding
 AC adapter, and an electrical block with four receptacles for plugging in
 the aforementioned items.
 
 Thanks,
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Re: [WISPA] Small NEMA Enclosures

[Robert]

We use a ton of these and take the gfi outlets out.   I have a box of
~100 outlets that are just sitting there..  Kind of the like the ubnt
power supplies...

Robert

On 04/30/2014 08:37 PM, D. Ryan Spott wrote:
 This works great for the side of a house: $32.50
 http://www.lowes.com/pd_126702-74985-57095_0__?productId=1128857
 
 Details here:
 http://www.orbitonline.com/products/sprinkler-systems/accessories/timer-accessories/timer-box/weather-resistant-sprinkler-timer-cabinet
 
 I put an extension cord into the GFCI outlet and then plug that into the 
 wall: $7.00
 http://www.lowes.com/pd_242043-66906-UT880608_0+2zc58__?productId=3190805
 
 The box locks and it looks like a sprinkler timer.
 
 ryan
 
 On 4/30/14, 12:06 PM, Sam wrote:
 What do you guy use for small NEMA waterproof enclosures? These would be
 the size to hold three UBNT PoE and a small (four-port) switch and
 corresponding AC adapter, and an electrical block with four receptacles
 for plugging in the aforementioned items.

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Re: [WISPA] Odd Speed Results

[Robert]

Ubiquiti web test = udp and Mikrotik = udp or tcp so which are you using
on the Mikrotik side udp or tcp?IF you are using tcp on the Mikrotik
test, most likely you have a lot of packet loss and the tcp is spending
a lot of time in retransmission.   If it's udp vs. udp then start
checking your connections   Test from the UBNT to another UBNT on
the wired side

Robert

On 04/18/2014 01:52 PM, Marlon Schafer (509.982.2181) wrote:
 Look at a difference in rssi levels at each end.  I've seen some of the 
 radios (xr2 and xr5 cards) go weak either on the tx or rx side.  That's a 
 hard one to catch.
 
 Also if it's only 2.4 miles you might have to much power going to them 
 and picking up some multipath.  Try dropping the power down a little bit and 
 see what happens.
 
 marlon
 
 
 -Original Message- 
 From: Scott Reed
 Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 6:37 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Odd Speed Results
 
 I have a link using 2 PowerBridges that is about 2.4 miles.  I can get
 56M TCP across the link using the UBNT speed test.
 I have several MTs on one side of the link and a RouterMaxx running MT
 on the other side of the link.  The best I can get between the MTs is
 10M.  The processors are at  30% on each side.
 I am at a total loss as to why I get the radically different speeds.  I
 can not anything that looks odd.  The link used to work really well.
 Not sure when this issue started, but I am thinking it may be getting
 progressively worse.
 Any idea what I should be looking for?
 
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Re: [WISPA] Solar powered repeater kit

[Robert]

Those are the best prices I've seen on panels yet..they are driving
distance...   Granted a full day of driving but hey if it's $600 in
shipping

On 04/18/2014 02:56 PM, Chris Hudson wrote:
 +1 I have been buying my panels from Solar Blvd as well.
 
 
 Sent via the Samsung Galaxy Note® II, an ATT 4G LTE smartphone
 
 
  Original message 
 From: Marlon Schafer (509.982.2181)
 Date:04/18/2014 4:41 PM (GMT-06:00)
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Solar powered repeater kit
 
 No.  But I do have a site.
  
 http://www.solarblvd.com/ is where I got my last bit of stuff.  250
 watts for my motorhome.
  
 At the time, panels and a 40 amp charge controller *with float charging*
 was around $400.
  
 They have pretty high wind load so you’ll need a good structure to hold
 them up.  I’ve also had better luck (so far) with wet cell golf cart
 6vdc batteries than with anything else.  I get them from the regional
 Interstate Battery shop, factory blems run less than half the cost of
 new and have a 90 day warranty.
  
 Others have done a lot more of this than I have though.
  
 marlon
  
  
 *From:* Mike Hammett mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net
 *Sent:* Tuesday, April 08, 2014 9:16 AM
 *To:* WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Solar powered repeater kit
  
 I'm interested as well.
 
 
 
 -
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 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com
 
 
 *From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 *To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 *Sent: *Tuesday, April 8, 2014 11:00:42 AM
 *Subject: *[WISPA] Solar powered repeater kit
 
 Has anyone deployed a solar powered repeater for a single customer?  For
 example, their house is in the middle of a forest but you can provide
 service at the end of their lane.
  
 This comes up here and there and I'm looking to put together a kit of
 Nanos, solar panels, battery and give the customer the price.  I thought
 I would ask here before reinventing the wheel.
 
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Re: [WISPA] Solar powered repeater kit

[Robert]

And the certified Labor...  Remember that your grid-tie must be done by
an electrician certified by your electric utility or there is hell to
pay...   And those guys know it  Cha-Ching

On 04/18/2014 09:49 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:
 The challenge is still the grid-tie inverter, which at this point may
 actually be more expensive than the panels themselves.   But the whole
 thing is definitely on my short list of home improvement projects.
 
 -forrest
 
 
 On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 10:18 PM, Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net
 mailto:the...@wmwisp.net wrote:
 
 I saw $.57 per watt on that site...
 
 $2300 will buy just about 4kW...
 
 My state is net meter as well.  Forget the the market distorting
 incentive junk, at that price, they may make direct economic sense.
 
 --
 
 On 4/18/2014 11:29 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:
 Finding panels under $1/watt are pretty easy, even less in quantity:

 http://www.wholesalesolar.com/solar-panels.html

 http://www.civicsolar.com/solar-panels

 It's getting low enough that I'm actually starting to consider
 putting in enough panels to zero out my electric bill as I live in
 a net metering state where I can sell kWH back to the utility at
 par (up to my annual usage).   1W of panel will generate
 1.7kW/year in my climate, or $0.23cents/year of electricity.   A 5
 year payback is $1.15/watt, not counting all of the incentives.  
 Aka... 30% federal tax rebate, a similar local rebate, and
 incentives of up to $1.50/watt ($6000maximum) from the local
 utility.   


 -forrest



 On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 6:35 PM, Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net
 mailto:the...@wmwisp.net wrote:

 Now if I could find those prices in the Mid-West...

 I mean, the last time I looked it was still around $3-4 a watt.

 At a $1 per watt, I have some other uses...

 -- 

 On 4/18/2014 5:41 PM, Marlon Schafer (509.982.2181
 tel:%28509.982.2181) wrote:
 No.  But I do have a site.
  
 http://www.solarblvd.com/ is where I got my last bit of
 stuff.  250 watts for my motorhome.
  
 At the time, panels and a 40 amp charge controller *with
 float charging* was around $400.
  
 They have pretty high wind load so you’ll need a good
 structure to hold them up.  I’ve also had better luck (so
 far) with wet cell golf cart 6vdc batteries than with
 anything else.  I get them from the regional Interstate
 Battery shop, factory blems run less than half the cost of
 new and have a 90 day warranty.
  
 Others have done a lot more of this than I have though.
  
 marlon
  
  
 *From:* Mike Hammett mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net
 *Sent:* Tuesday, April 08, 2014 9:16 AM
 *To:* WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Solar powered repeater kit
  
 I'm interested as well.



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 *To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 mailto:wireless@wispa.org
 *Sent: *Tuesday, April 8, 2014 11:00:42 AM
 *Subject: *[WISPA] Solar powered repeater kit

 Has anyone deployed a solar powered repeater for a single
 customer?  For example, their house is in the middle of a
 forest but you can provide service at the end of their lane.
  
 This comes up here and there and I'm looking to put together
 a kit of Nanos, solar panels, battery and give the customer
 the price.  I thought I would ask here before reinventing the
 wheel.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
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Re: [WISPA] CAF-USF-StateTax for WISPs

[Robert Andrews]

Be as confusing as possible and that way get the least push back on a 
made up charge...
After all the fake charges on cell invoices, dsl invoices, and cable 
invoices, what would make you think that this was any different? Just 
because you are in the biz and might know better?

I am sure that there are thousands of companies that just go on paying 
these extra fees because they look legit and there is something that 
might be related in the regs...


On 04/16/2014 11:51 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
 Interstate access charge, maybe?


 Matt Hoppes
 Director of Information Technology
 Indigo Wireless
 +1 (570) 723-7312

 On 4/16/14, 2:40 PM, ralphli...@bsrg.org wrote:
 Don't know.
 The word interstate was in the description of the charge.

  
  *From:* Matt Hoppes [mailto:mhop...@indigowireless.com]
  *To:* WISPA General List [mailto:wireless@wispa.org]
  *Sent:* Wed, 16 Apr 2014 14:32:45 -0400
  *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] CAF-USF-StateTax for WISPs

  OK... but why is there no USF on an INTRAstate circuit but there is on
  an INTERstate?


  Matt Hoppes
  Director of Information Technology
  Indigo Wireless
  +1 (570) 723-7312[Call: +1 (570) 723-7312] #

  On 4/16/14, 2:22 PM, ralphli...@bsrg.org
  mailto:ralphli...@bsrg.org wrote:
   There was none. We just kept refusing to pay it and explained it
  several
   times. They finally removed it.
   Having a good relationship with your A.E. helps a lot I guess.
   I lot of it was just making them understand that, since they had
  all the
   addresses of the drops, it was NOT interstate.
  
   I used to fight this with the phone company as well several years
  ago in
   another life.
  
  
  
   *From:* Matt Hoppes [mailto:mhop...@indigowireless.com
  mailto:mhop...@indigowireless.com]
   *To:* WISPA General List [mailto:wireless@wispa.org
  mailto:wireless@wispa.org]
   *Sent:* Wed, 16 Apr 2014 13:33:19 -0400
   *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] CAF-USF-StateTax for WISPs
  
   That's what I meant... interesting. Good to know! Can you reference
   the paperwork ID number you had to request?
  
  
   Matt Hoppes
   Director of Information Technology
   Indigo Wireless
   +1 (570) 723-7312[Call: +1 (570) 723-7312[Call: +1 (570) 723-7312]
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   On 4/16/14, 1:28 PM, ralphli...@bsrg.org mailto:ralphli...@bsrg.org
   mailto:ralphli...@bsrg.org mailto:ralphli...@bsrg.org wrote:
From our Metro Ethernet network
   
   
  
  
*From:* Matt Hoppes [mailto:mhop...@indigowireless.com
  mailto:mhop...@indigowireless.com
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*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] CAF-USF-StateTax for WISPs
   
So you got the USF tax removed from your Comcast transport circuit?
   
   
Matt Hoppes
Director of Information Technology
Indigo Wireless
+1 (570) 723-7312[Call: +1 (570) 723-7312[Call: +1 (570)
  723-7312[Call: +1 (570) 723-7312] #]
   #] #
   
On 4/16/14, 12:30 PM, ralph wrote:
 We did this, and won.

 Still trying to get credit for what was paid before we squeaked.



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   mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
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 The key for Comcast is to make sure your contract says
   intra-state and
 not inter-state for the tax jurisdiction. They don't collect
  USF on
 intra-state circuits, only local city/county/state taxes as
applicable.
 If your contract says inter-state (and it isn't inter-state),
   you can
 harass your sales rep 

Re: [WISPA] Odd Speed Results

[Robert]

Web on UBNT is a UDP test..   Apples and oranges   As the shell
based tcp test on UBNT hits processor limits very fast, it's better
switching the MT test to UDP to get a better comparison.

Best,
Robert

On 04/08/2014 03:07 AM, Scott Reed wrote:
 Web on UBNT, WinBox on MT
 
 On 4/7/2014 11:36 PM, Robert wrote:
 I didn't think the shell based speedtest would give those numbers
 without limiting out the cpu.   Were you using the web based speed test?

 On 04/07/2014 06:37 PM, Scott Reed wrote:
 I have a link using 2 PowerBridges that is about 2.4 miles.  I can get
 56M TCP across the link using the UBNT speed test.
 I have several MTs on one side of the link and a RouterMaxx running MT
 on the other side of the link.  The best I can get between the MTs is
 10M.  The processors are at  30% on each side.
 I am at a total loss as to why I get the radically different speeds.  I
 can not anything that looks odd.  The link used to work really well.
 Not sure when this issue started, but I am thinking it may be getting
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Re: [WISPA] Solar powered repeater kit

[Robert]

Yes,
We got a pair of 100 Watt panels at a great price off newegg.com  , no
shipping, which for solar panels was a deal maker! Only used one panel.
  We build the mounts with Home Depot Superstrut and 1 conduit. ~$50
We used

http://thesolarstore.com/charge-controllers-charge-controllers-morningstar-prostar-charge-controller-volt-p-455.html
  ~$100

And a Walmart 124 Amp hour battery...  ~$100

Good for 1.4 weeks no sun..   We use Mikrotik so we get remote voltage
that way, use a 750UP for that with UBNT, but be sure and correct the
voltage on your monitoring...   You are working off 12V so you have to
worry about your amperage through the 750UP, but with UBNT gear that
shouldn't be a problem..  MT radios are a problem at 12V...   So we use
a 12-24V converter.  ($70)

We put it in a Walmart plastic tub.  The one that is strong enough to
stand on. ~$30

We figured we saved about $400 vs buying a pre-built solution.  More
like $700 over Tycon's solution.

Panels were $299 for 2 they are still there.  But just saw this which is
a good deal too!


Complete Solar Kit 200W: 2pcs 100W Solar Panels+20' Solar cable in
Pair+PWM 30A Charge Controller+2 Sets Z Brackets+MC4 Branch Connectors Pair

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA29R0RA4028



On 04/08/2014 09:00 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
 Has anyone deployed a solar powered repeater for a single customer?  For
 example, their house is in the middle of a forest but you can provide
 service at the end of their lane.
 
 This comes up here and there and I'm looking to put together a kit of
 Nanos, solar panels, battery and give the customer the price.  I thought
 I would ask here before reinventing the wheel.
 
 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Solar powered repeater kit

[Robert]

It gets to the key of any solar project, what's the exposure.   We are
out in NV where 100 watt panel and 2x124 amp hour batteries is more than
enough all year to span cloudy sessions.   We get one full day and we
are recharged and rarely go a week without one day of enough sun to get
another week of run time until we get the period that everything is
fully charged.   More panel gets you back up faster so Sam's setup will
get him back to normal in 1/3 the time = 3x the clouds.

BTW set your solar panels for the maximum sun declination.  That's when
days are the shortest and the need for power is the greatest and usually
the weather is the worst.   It also helps with the snow issue.  By the
time the sun is higher the days are longer and you make up for the bad
angle with more exposure/better weather...

On 04/08/2014 09:41 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
 That looks like massive overkill, are you using a ~10 watt load or are
 you doing much more?  Quick math tells me the batteries would do 12 days
 on a 10 watt load.
 
 Do you find you need a 290 watt panel (though this also leads back to
 the question)?
 
 
 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 
 
 On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 12:30 PM, Sam Tetherow tethe...@shwisp.net
 mailto:tethe...@shwisp.net wrote:
 
 I have one up for 2 customers.  They paid the cost on the tower and
 solar setup, I put up the AP.  Pretty low maintenance, only issue I
 have on them is snow accumulating on the panels. 
 
 Astronergy 290W 24V panel  $280
 Morningstar SunSaver SS-10L-24V Charge Controller   $63 
 MC4
 cable 
  
 $31
 Shipping  

 $249
 
 Two deep-cycle RV battteries from Sams Club (120ah)  $250
 
 Wire the load out of the charge controller to the DC in on a
 Toughswitch put up a NanoBridge for the backhaul and a NanoStation
 for the AP.
 
 
 On 04/08/2014 11:00 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
 Has anyone deployed a solar powered repeater for a single
 customer?  For example, their house is in the middle of a forest
 but you can provide service at the end of their lane.

 This comes up here and there and I'm looking to put together a kit
 of Nanos, solar panels, battery and give the customer the price.
  I thought I would ask here before reinventing the wheel.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
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Re: [WISPA] Solar powered repeater kit

[Robert]

It's actually worse than that...   2x124 amp hour batteries...   2
MTMtl5, and RB433AH with 1 watt 2.4 radio in it.  More like 25 watts
full load.  nominal is more like 12 watts.   1 100 Watt panel.But
again, it's very sunny here.I have a couple of remote locations that
run 8 AMPS@12V 7x24x365 solar and people said we couldn't run them on
what we do...

On 04/08/2014 09:49 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
 Robert's over here doing 1/3 of that, though.  He's got a 15 watt load
 (two Ubnt, rb750p).
 
 
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 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
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 On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 12:44 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
 mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:
 
 More panel is better than less panel.  ;-)
 
 Not sure I'd go less than half of that.
 
 
 
 
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 http://www.ics-il.com
 
 
 *From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 *To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
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 *Sent: *Tuesday, April 8, 2014 11:41:52 AM
 *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Solar powered repeater kit
 
 
 That looks like massive overkill, are you using a ~10 watt load or
 are you doing much more?  Quick math tells me the batteries would do
 12 days on a 10 watt load.
 
 Do you find you need a 290 watt panel (though this also leads back
 to the question)?
 
 
 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 
 
 On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 12:30 PM, Sam Tetherow tethe...@shwisp.net
 mailto:tethe...@shwisp.net wrote:
 
 I have one up for 2 customers.  They paid the cost on the tower
 and solar setup, I put up the AP.  Pretty low maintenance, only
 issue I have on them is snow accumulating on the panels. 
 
 Astronergy 290W 24V panel  
$280
 Morningstar SunSaver SS-10L-24V Charge Controller   $63 
 MC4
 cable 
  
 $31
 Shipping  

 $249
 
 Two deep-cycle RV battteries from Sams Club (120ah)  $250
 
 Wire the load out of the charge controller to the DC in on a
 Toughswitch put up a NanoBridge for the backhaul and a
 NanoStation for the AP.
 
 
 On 04/08/2014 11:00 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
 
 Has anyone deployed a solar powered repeater for a single
 customer?  For example, their house is in the middle of a
 forest but you can provide service at the end of their lane.
 
 This comes up here and there and I'm looking to put together
 a kit of Nanos, solar panels, battery and give the customer
 the price.  I thought I would ask here before reinventing
 the wheel.
 
 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
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Re: [WISPA] Solar powered repeater kit

[Robert]

Honestly I have no clue what your exposure is like...   Go off the sites
at the solar panel stores that describe it and compare it to Northern
Nevada...  BUT if it's not critical to the customer, or the customer is
willing to swap a battery or two out when things get bad, you can save a
lot of cash.   We also have a set of batteries that are always ready to
go to any site(s) that get in battery trouble to make it a non-issue.
That's what we do with the solar site batteries when we feel we aren't
getting max performance out of them Replace them and they go in
trickle backup..

On 04/08/2014 10:02 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
 Oh, so since I'm in Ohio I'm going to need at least the 290 watt panel =P
 
 
 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 
 
 On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 12:58 PM, Robert nos...@avantwireless.com
 mailto:nos...@avantwireless.com wrote:
 
 It gets to the key of any solar project, what's the exposure.   We are
 out in NV where 100 watt panel and 2x124 amp hour batteries is more than
 enough all year to span cloudy sessions.   We get one full day and we
 are recharged and rarely go a week without one day of enough sun to get
 another week of run time until we get the period that everything is
 fully charged.   More panel gets you back up faster so Sam's setup will
 get him back to normal in 1/3 the time = 3x the clouds.
 
 BTW set your solar panels for the maximum sun declination.  That's when
 days are the shortest and the need for power is the greatest and usually
 the weather is the worst.   It also helps with the snow issue.  By the
 time the sun is higher the days are longer and you make up for the bad
 angle with more exposure/better weather...
 
 On 04/08/2014 09:41 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
  That looks like massive overkill, are you using a ~10 watt load or are
  you doing much more?  Quick math tells me the batteries would do
 12 days
  on a 10 watt load.
 
  Do you find you need a 290 watt panel (though this also leads back to
  the question)?
 
 
  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373
 
 
  On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 12:30 PM, Sam Tetherow tethe...@shwisp.net
 mailto:tethe...@shwisp.net
  mailto:tethe...@shwisp.net mailto:tethe...@shwisp.net wrote:
 
  I have one up for 2 customers.  They paid the cost on the
 tower and
  solar setup, I put up the AP.  Pretty low maintenance, only
 issue I
  have on them is snow accumulating on the panels.
 
  Astronergy 290W 24V panel
  $280
  Morningstar SunSaver SS-10L-24V Charge Controller   $63
  MC4
  cable
  $31
  Shipping
  $249
 
  Two deep-cycle RV battteries from Sams Club (120ah)  $250
 
  Wire the load out of the charge controller to the DC in on a
  Toughswitch put up a NanoBridge for the backhaul and a NanoStation
  for the AP.
 
 
  On 04/08/2014 11:00 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
  Has anyone deployed a solar powered repeater for a single
  customer?  For example, their house is in the middle of a forest
  but you can provide service at the end of their lane.
 
  This comes up here and there and I'm looking to put together
 a kit
  of Nanos, solar panels, battery and give the customer the price.
   I thought I would ask here before reinventing the wheel.
 
  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
 tel:937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
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  Suite 1337
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Re: [WISPA] Solar powered repeater kit

[Robert]

Like I said, the newegg 100watt panels ended up being free shipping,
that made the difference for us.   For larger panels we are only 3 hours
drive from wholesale solar, so we drive up to Shasta and pick them up.
Last time we got 5 350 watt panels at .85/watt!

On 04/08/2014 10:27 AM, Sam Tetherow wrote:
 Should be roughly the same power consumption.  I used the spec sheets
 figuring the numbers would be higher than actual used.  The only expense
 that makes me cringe in this setup (used it twice now) is the shipping
 cost, it cost as much to ship a single panel as the cost of the panel. 
 If I was doing a lot of these I could cut the cost down quite a bit just
 by ordering 5-10 panels.
 
 On 04/08/2014 12:19 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
 I measured a NSM2 a long time ago, it's 4-5 watts according to my amp
 meter.

 I'm not doing a ToughSwitch, I'm avoiding them entirely.  I'll be
 doing an rb750p.


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373


 On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Sam Tetherow tethe...@shwisp.net
 mailto:tethe...@shwisp.net wrote:

 According to the spec sheets you are looking at 8W for the NS +
 5.5W for the NB and probably another 6W for the TS (only shows
 maximum consumption which would include all POE ports active) so
 about 20W total consumption. 

 Running it in a 24V configuration hence 2 12V batteries.  I
 figured more like 5 days on the batteries by the time you figure
 in low voltage cutoff and winter conditions.  I could have went
 with smaller batteries, but getting +40ah for $20/battery.  I've
 had problems with equipment acting flakey when running UBNT with
 12V power.  My goal was as low maintenance as possible since the
 site is not easy to get to in the winter and did want to leave
 room in case I needed to add any equipment. 

 The problem with sizing an all solar setup is you generally end up
 with overkill for 80% of the time since you are designing for
 crappy weather on the shortest days of the year with minimal
 sunlight and they tend not to be in places that it is easy to haul
 a generator to when your batteries die in the middle of a blizzard.



 On 04/08/2014 11:41 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
 That looks like massive overkill, are you using a ~10 watt load
 or are you doing much more?  Quick math tells me the batteries
 would do 12 days on a 10 watt load.

 Do you find you need a 290 watt panel (though this also leads
 back to the question)?


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373


 On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 12:30 PM, Sam Tetherow
 tethe...@shwisp.net mailto:tethe...@shwisp.net wrote:

 I have one up for 2 customers.  They paid the cost on the
 tower and solar setup, I put up the AP.  Pretty low
 maintenance, only issue I have on them is snow accumulating
 on the panels. 

 Astronergy 290W 24V panel  
$280
 Morningstar SunSaver SS-10L-24V Charge Controller   $63 
 MC4
 cable   

 $31
 Shipping
  
 $249

 Two deep-cycle RV battteries from Sams Club (120ah)  $250

 Wire the load out of the charge controller to the DC in on a
 Toughswitch put up a NanoBridge for the backhaul and a
 NanoStation for the AP.


 On 04/08/2014 11:00 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
 Has anyone deployed a solar powered repeater for a single
 customer?  For example, their house is in the middle of a
 forest but you can provide service at the end of their lane.

 This comes up here and there and I'm looking to put together
 a kit of Nanos, solar panels, battery and give the customer
 the price.  I thought I would ask here before reinventing
 the wheel.

 Josh Luthman
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 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
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 Suite 1337
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Re: [WISPA] Odd Speed Results

[Robert]

I didn't think the shell based speedtest would give those numbers
without limiting out the cpu.   Were you using the web based speed test?

On 04/07/2014 06:37 PM, Scott Reed wrote:
 I have a link using 2 PowerBridges that is about 2.4 miles.  I can get 
 56M TCP across the link using the UBNT speed test.
 I have several MTs on one side of the link and a RouterMaxx running MT 
 on the other side of the link.  The best I can get between the MTs is 
 10M.  The processors are at  30% on each side.
 I am at a total loss as to why I get the radically different speeds.  I 
 can not anything that looks odd.  The link used to work really well.  
 Not sure when this issue started, but I am thinking it may be getting 
 progressively worse.
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Re: [WISPA] Odd Speed Results

[Robert]

What version firmware on the RouterMaxx?

On 04/07/2014 06:52 PM, Scott Reed wrote:
 Oops, look at the right stuff.  760,000,000 tx errors in 79 days on the 
 wire from the RouterMaxx to the PowerBridge.
 Guess I know where the problem may be.
 On 4/7/2014 9:49 PM, Scott Reed wrote:
 All are 100/full
 No errors

 On 4/7/2014 9:42 PM, Mike Lyon wrote:
 How do the interfaces look? Are they negotiating to 100/full on all
 sides? Any interface errors accruing on any of the devices?



 On Apr 7, 2014, at 6:38 PM, Scott Reed sr...@nwwnet.net wrote:

 I have a link using 2 PowerBridges that is about 2.4 miles.  I can get
 56M TCP across the link using the UBNT speed test.
 I have several MTs on one side of the link and a RouterMaxx running MT
 on the other side of the link.  The best I can get between the MTs is
 10M.  The processors are at  30% on each side.
 I am at a total loss as to why I get the radically different speeds.  I
 can not anything that looks odd.  The link used to work really well.
 Not sure when this issue started, but I am thinking it may be getting
 progressively worse.
 Any idea what I should be looking for?

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Re: [WISPA] 8x8 antenna for ubnt?? pic attached

[Robert]

I realized a while ago that I would like to know the characterization of
dual polarity antennas in both polarities..   i.e.   On a dual polarity
antenna the Vertical polarity has a horizontal and vertical coverage and
the Horizontal polarity has a horizontal and vertical coverage.   Is
this something I can find out or are the numbers for vertical and
horizontal good for both antennas?   This is important for us.

Thank you,
Robert Andrews
AvantWireless LLC

On 03/18/2014 01:50 PM, Pedro Ramirez wrote:
 Tomorrow we receive our 1st shipment of the following antenna:
 
 http://www.itelite.net/en/Katalog/Multi-Band-Antennas//PRO-SECTOR-XL-245dual-band2xdual-HV.html
 
 designed specifically to fit 2 Rockets in 2.4  5GHz inside.
 
 I will post pictures as soon as I can.
 
 Pedro
 Itelite Antennas, Inc
 
 On 17-Mar-14 6:30 PM, Clay Stewart wrote:
 Also... to remain non-bias... have many Itelite ants too with Rockets.
 They are great for very low profile, esthetically placement of
 rockets, especially the 55 degree square box models.

 Would be very interested in a box to accept an RM2 and RM5. I talked
 to an ex-installer today who now works for one of the big cells as
 tower equipment engineer... he says almost all of the LTE sectors are
 dual band... show me a phone picture which looked very much like the
 box that started this thread.


 On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 9:25 PM, Clay Stewart
 cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com
 mailto:cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com wrote:

 When you are saying TI is 'not worth its salt', are you saying the
 sectors or the TI radios? We have a couple dozen TI sectors using
 non-TI radios with great results. Installed a NanoBeam M5 to one
 last Friday with 25/18Mbps at 1.5 miles and on last Saturday
 install an RDM5 dish to same TI sector with standard M5 rocket at
 5.5 miles for 20/18 on the edge of the 120 degrees and through row
 of trees. Noise levels. Then two weeks ago we had 38/25 on one at
 5 miles with NanoBridge.

 TI Radios have reported issues and have not used them at all
 yet... waiting for better reports. Just wanted to clear up
 discussion. I use RFArmour also, but the TI sectors have less wind
 load and foot print for our mini-towers.




 On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 2:20 PM, Mark Spring m...@nktelco.net
 mailto:m...@nktelco.net wrote:

 I had to relocate some TI Sectors that I installed because of
 inter AP interference. While I didn't get a chance to haul rf
 armor up and compare the two, so perhaps it was just planned
 poorly from the start. The overwhelming response I see online
 is that the titanium gear isn't worth it's salt, so when we
 saw this in the field we just went back to the trusted gear.
 They are making 5ghz rf armor for the titanium sectors.

 The nanobeam does seem to be a recent piece of innovation that
 has turned out well...it hasn't baked for a long time though,
 hoping it proves out because I really like what I see at this
 point.

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 Systems Analyst

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 mailto:cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com wrote:

 Let me clarify, regular M2 rockets on TI sectors.


 On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Mark Spring
 m...@nktelco.net mailto:m...@nktelco.net wrote:

 Clay,

 We put up some of the TI rockets with the same idea in
 mind, maybe they've gotten better but I got sick of
 sending guys out to change them out. Even after the
 recall it seems that they create more work, sticking
 with the old school sectors and rockets for now(with
 shielding). Just my two cents on a slightly unrelated
 topic.

 Was KP looking at dual frequency antennas like this
 recently? Seems to me that I saw something similar
 floating around the boards..

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 301 W. South St.
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Re: [WISPA] 8x8 antenna for ubnt?? pic attached

[Robert]

Now that's a responsive Vendor!   BTW I believe that it would take 8
connectors of whatever type

On 03/17/2014 11:56 AM, Pedro Ramirez wrote:
 We can make a Sector antenna for 4 Rockets similar to the one in your 
 pictures.
 
 It can be with 4 external N-Female connectors or with a metal shielded 
 enclosure with internal SMA connectors to put the rockets inside.
 
 What frequencies are needed?
 
 And who would like to test this new design for us?
 
 Pedro Ramirez
 Itelite Antennas, Inc
 
 On 16-Mar-14 7:37 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
 Could it be something like this?

 http://www.itelite.net/en/Katalog/5-GHz-80211a-Triband//PRO-SECTOR-XL-245dual-band2xdual-HV.html

 Sent from my iPad

 On Mar 16, 2014, at 9:19 AM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote:

 I think one of the many local wisps popping here are getting very creative

 Anyone can ID this sector? Im thinking its a Mobile Carrier antenna that 
 they are reusing… but what band?



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Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth/Performance Test

[Robert]

These can usually be made more accurate for greater bandwidths by giving
a variety of download file sizes for different pipe sizes..   Usually
very easy programming...  If you wouldn't mind sharing the source...

Best,

Robert


On 03/06/2014 08:25 AM, Blair Davis wrote:
 There is a very basic one on my web site that sounds like what you 
 describe...
 
 www.wmwisp.net/speedtest/speedtest.php
 
 --
 On 3/6/2014 9:30 AM, Sam wrote:
 Good Morning Folks!

 Years ago, I remember installing a bandwidth tester on one of the Linux
 boxes I had running at the WISP my wife and I owned. For the life of me
 I cannot remember the name of it.

 Do any of you have one you like enough to recommend? Basically I'd like
 for it to sit in the base of a tower so the users consuming bandwidth
 from that tower can measure their speed without touching my upstream
 provider - they can measure how fast and at what capacity my equipment
 is providing them with service from this server at the base of the tower
 to their equipment at their home or business.

 Hopefully this makes sense

 Thanks,
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Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting

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Wow, I went through a nightmare with a customer who was using GoDaddy...
  We switched them to gmail and they are happy now..   They got NO help
from GoDaddy...  around and around they went..   Both on our network and
charter so was able to eliminate that as the problem..

On 03/06/2014 01:14 PM, Mac Dearman wrote:
 We have been outsourcing email/hosting..etc to GoDaddy for 26 months now and
 I can honestly say that it has been a real relief for us. Their spam
 solution has been good as well. We pay about .60 cents a month per sub, but
 they have really nice webmail.
 
 
 YMMV, GL
 Mac
 
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 Behalf Of Matt
 Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 12:11 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
 
 We are using tucows/opensrs.  The antispam isn't as good as Postini was.
 But we fired Postini/Google when I found out that they spy on the 
 customer's communications.  Tucows doesn't.
 
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Re: [WISPA] Fw: FW:

[Robert]

I believe they are allowed to xmit at up to 6 watts, similar to clear
wire   I loved thinking about the power levels coming out of clear
wire antennas sitting on peoples desks next to where they work for 8
hours.

On 02/23/2014 06:15 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
 Anyone know the eirp for 700 MHz 4g?
 
 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 
 On Feb 23, 2014 9:12 PM, Robert nos...@avantwireless.com
 mailto:nos...@avantwireless.com wrote:
 
 I just recommended HomeFusion service to a prospective customer.
 Buried deep in the pine trees, they had one slot that a competitor was
 able to deliver service through.   This competitor is so bad they
 _never_ answer their phone, have not upgraded technology in 8 years and
 go down for as much as a week out of four.   We can't cover them, none
 of the others that do decent service will.  But they can and do use a 4g
 verizon card in a router to get service.   They pay cell phone rates
 from verizon so I told them about the fusion service as it will give
 them 2x data at about the same price and will not have to be on a
 charger all the time. 900 will not reach them.  Oh well...  Even the
 devil gets his due...
 
 Robert
 
 On 02/23/2014 04:46 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote:
  Wecome to Verizon HomeFusion.
 
  Regards,
  Chuck
 
 
  On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 7:43 PM, heith petersen wi...@mncomm.com
 mailto:wi...@mncomm.com
  mailto:wi...@mncomm.com mailto:wi...@mncomm.com wrote:
 
  I had a customer cancel our service a few weeks ago in a town an
  hour away from me. My billing lady got the impression that she was
  going to use her 4G service. She lives out of town a mile where we
  are the only WISP or service around, aside from satellite or cell
  service. Our equipment was laying by her house as she was away for
  the day when we were there, but stated that the new equipment was
  mounted in our old spot. So my tech took this picture and it said
  Cantenna on the bottom of it. Its not like the Cantenna I have
 seen
  in the past. I am real positive that I do not have another WISP in
  the area. Do some WISPS use these devices? The closest
 business is a
  John Deere dealership, and I am fairly certain their IT would not
  allow external usage of their network, and all of the houses
 in the
  area use our service. Anyways just curious if any one had any
 ideas
  of what they could be using this for. I have had other customers
  cheat WiFi from their neighbors with different Cantennas, but I
  would use a UBNT device to re-distribute the service, if that’s
  whats going on
 
  thanks
  heith
 
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 mailto:6052801...@mms.att.net mailto:6052801...@mms.att.net
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Re: [WISPA] Fw: FW:

[Robert]

I found one clearwire CPE that was 33db out the antenna..

Best,
Robert

On 02/23/2014 06:42 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
 That's probably the base stations, not CPEs.  That's a lot of umph.
 
 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 
 On Feb 23, 2014 9:20 PM, Robert nos...@avantwireless.com
 mailto:nos...@avantwireless.com wrote:
 
 I believe they are allowed to xmit at up to 6 watts, similar to clear
 wire   I loved thinking about the power levels coming out of clear
 wire antennas sitting on peoples desks next to where they work for 8
 hours.
 
 On 02/23/2014 06:15 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
  Anyone know the eirp for 700 MHz 4g?
 
  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373
 
  On Feb 23, 2014 9:12 PM, Robert nos...@avantwireless.com
 mailto:nos...@avantwireless.com
  mailto:nos...@avantwireless.com
 mailto:nos...@avantwireless.com wrote:
 
  I just recommended HomeFusion service to a prospective customer.
  Buried deep in the pine trees, they had one slot that a
 competitor was
  able to deliver service through.   This competitor is so bad they
  _never_ answer their phone, have not upgraded technology in 8
 years and
  go down for as much as a week out of four.   We can't cover
 them, none
  of the others that do decent service will.  But they can and
 do use a 4g
  verizon card in a router to get service.   They pay cell phone
 rates
  from verizon so I told them about the fusion service as it
 will give
  them 2x data at about the same price and will not have to be on a
  charger all the time. 900 will not reach them.  Oh well...
  Even the
  devil gets his due...
 
  Robert
 
  On 02/23/2014 04:46 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote:
   Wecome to Verizon HomeFusion.
  
   Regards,
   Chuck
  
  
   On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 7:43 PM, heith petersen
 wi...@mncomm.com mailto:wi...@mncomm.com
  mailto:wi...@mncomm.com mailto:wi...@mncomm.com
   mailto:wi...@mncomm.com mailto:wi...@mncomm.com
 mailto:wi...@mncomm.com mailto:wi...@mncomm.com wrote:
  
   I had a customer cancel our service a few weeks ago in a
 town an
   hour away from me. My billing lady got the impression
 that she was
   going to use her 4G service. She lives out of town a
 mile where we
   are the only WISP or service around, aside from
 satellite or cell
   service. Our equipment was laying by her house as she
 was away for
   the day when we were there, but stated that the new
 equipment was
   mounted in our old spot. So my tech took this picture
 and it said
   Cantenna on the bottom of it. Its not like the Cantenna
 I have
  seen
   in the past. I am real positive that I do not have
 another WISP in
   the area. Do some WISPS use these devices? The closest
  business is a
   John Deere dealership, and I am fairly certain their IT
 would not
   allow external usage of their network, and all of the houses
  in the
   area use our service. Anyways just curious if any one
 had any
  ideas
   of what they could be using this for. I have had other
 customers
   cheat WiFi from their neighbors with different
 Cantennas, but I
   would use a UBNT device to re-distribute the service, if
 that’s
   whats going on
  
   thanks
   heith
  
   *From:* 6052801...@mms.att.net
 mailto:6052801...@mms.att.net mailto:6052801...@mms.att.net
 mailto:6052801...@mms.att.net
  mailto:6052801...@mms.att.net mailto:6052801...@mms.att.net
 mailto:6052801...@mms.att.net mailto:6052801...@mms.att.net
   *Sent:* Sunday, February 23, 2014 6:32 PM
   *To:* he...@mncomm.com mailto:he...@mncomm.com
 mailto:he...@mncomm.com mailto:he...@mncomm.com
  mailto:he...@mncomm.com mailto:he...@mncomm.com
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Re: [WISPA] Fw: FW:

[Robert]

The little box on the desk...

On 02/23/2014 07:37 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
 Dang.  Indoor?  Or a big antenna?
 
 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 
 On Feb 23, 2014 10:12 PM, Robert nos...@avantwireless.com
 mailto:nos...@avantwireless.com wrote:
 
 I found one clearwire CPE that was 33db out the antenna..
 
 Best,
 Robert
 
 On 02/23/2014 06:42 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
  That's probably the base stations, not CPEs.  That's a lot of umph.
 
  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373
 
  On Feb 23, 2014 9:20 PM, Robert nos...@avantwireless.com
 mailto:nos...@avantwireless.com
  mailto:nos...@avantwireless.com
 mailto:nos...@avantwireless.com wrote:
 
  I believe they are allowed to xmit at up to 6 watts, similar
 to clear
  wire   I loved thinking about the power levels coming out
 of clear
  wire antennas sitting on peoples desks next to where they work
 for 8
  hours.
 
  On 02/23/2014 06:15 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
   Anyone know the eirp for 700 MHz 4g?
  
   Josh Luthman
   Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
 tel:937-552-2340
   Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
 tel:937-552-2343
   1100 Wayne St
   Suite 1337
   Troy, OH 45373
  
   On Feb 23, 2014 9:12 PM, Robert nos...@avantwireless.com
 mailto:nos...@avantwireless.com
  mailto:nos...@avantwireless.com
 mailto:nos...@avantwireless.com
   mailto:nos...@avantwireless.com
 mailto:nos...@avantwireless.com
  mailto:nos...@avantwireless.com
 mailto:nos...@avantwireless.com wrote:
  
   I just recommended HomeFusion service to a prospective
 customer.
   Buried deep in the pine trees, they had one slot that a
  competitor was
   able to deliver service through.   This competitor is so
 bad they
   _never_ answer their phone, have not upgraded technology
 in 8
  years and
   go down for as much as a week out of four.   We can't cover
  them, none
   of the others that do decent service will.  But they can and
  do use a 4g
   verizon card in a router to get service.   They pay cell
 phone
  rates
   from verizon so I told them about the fusion service as it
  will give
   them 2x data at about the same price and will not have
 to be on a
   charger all the time. 900 will not reach them.  Oh
 well...
   Even the
   devil gets his due...
  
   Robert
  
   On 02/23/2014 04:46 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote:
Wecome to Verizon HomeFusion.
   
Regards,
Chuck
   
   
On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 7:43 PM, heith petersen
  wi...@mncomm.com mailto:wi...@mncomm.com
 mailto:wi...@mncomm.com mailto:wi...@mncomm.com
   mailto:wi...@mncomm.com mailto:wi...@mncomm.com
 mailto:wi...@mncomm.com mailto:wi...@mncomm.com
mailto:wi...@mncomm.com mailto:wi...@mncomm.com
 mailto:wi...@mncomm.com mailto:wi...@mncomm.com
  mailto:wi...@mncomm.com mailto:wi...@mncomm.com
 mailto:wi...@mncomm.com mailto:wi...@mncomm.com wrote:
   
I had a customer cancel our service a few weeks
 ago in a
  town an
hour away from me. My billing lady got the impression
  that she was
going to use her 4G service. She lives out of town a
  mile where we
are the only WISP or service around, aside from
  satellite or cell
service. Our equipment was laying by her house as she
  was away for
the day when we were there, but stated that the new
  equipment was
mounted in our old spot. So my tech took this picture
  and it said
Cantenna on the bottom of it. Its not like the
 Cantenna
  I have
   seen
in the past. I am real positive that I do not have
  another WISP in
the area. Do some WISPS use these devices? The closest
   business is a
John Deere dealership, and I am fairly certain
 their IT
  would not
allow external usage of their network, and all of
 the houses
   in the
area use our service. Anyways just curious if any one
  had any

Re: [WISPA] Fw: FW:

[Robert]

I would put it as a desktop cataract-er...

On 02/23/2014 09:03 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
 Built in sterilizer?
 
 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 
 On Feb 23, 2014 11:18 PM, Robert nos...@avantwireless.com
 mailto:nos...@avantwireless.com wrote:
 
 The little box on the desk...
 
 On 02/23/2014 07:37 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
  Dang.  Indoor?  Or a big antenna?
 
  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373
 
  On Feb 23, 2014 10:12 PM, Robert nos...@avantwireless.com
 mailto:nos...@avantwireless.com
  mailto:nos...@avantwireless.com
 mailto:nos...@avantwireless.com wrote:
 
  I found one clearwire CPE that was 33db out the antenna..
 
  Best,
  Robert
 
  On 02/23/2014 06:42 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
   That's probably the base stations, not CPEs.  That's a lot
 of umph.
  
   Josh Luthman
   Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
 tel:937-552-2340
   Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
 tel:937-552-2343
   1100 Wayne St
   Suite 1337
   Troy, OH 45373
  
   On Feb 23, 2014 9:20 PM, Robert nos...@avantwireless.com
 mailto:nos...@avantwireless.com
  mailto:nos...@avantwireless.com
 mailto:nos...@avantwireless.com
   mailto:nos...@avantwireless.com
 mailto:nos...@avantwireless.com
  mailto:nos...@avantwireless.com
 mailto:nos...@avantwireless.com wrote:
  
   I believe they are allowed to xmit at up to 6 watts, similar
  to clear
   wire   I loved thinking about the power levels
 coming out
  of clear
   wire antennas sitting on peoples desks next to where
 they work
  for 8
   hours.
  
   On 02/23/2014 06:15 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Anyone know the eirp for 700 MHz 4g?
   
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
 tel:937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
 tel:937-552-2340
  tel:937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
 tel:937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
  tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
   
On Feb 23, 2014 9:12 PM, Robert
 nos...@avantwireless.com mailto:nos...@avantwireless.com
  mailto:nos...@avantwireless.com
 mailto:nos...@avantwireless.com
   mailto:nos...@avantwireless.com
 mailto:nos...@avantwireless.com
  mailto:nos...@avantwireless.com
 mailto:nos...@avantwireless.com
mailto:nos...@avantwireless.com
 mailto:nos...@avantwireless.com
  mailto:nos...@avantwireless.com
 mailto:nos...@avantwireless.com
   mailto:nos...@avantwireless.com
 mailto:nos...@avantwireless.com
  mailto:nos...@avantwireless.com
 mailto:nos...@avantwireless.com wrote:
   
I just recommended HomeFusion service to a prospective
  customer.
Buried deep in the pine trees, they had one slot
 that a
   competitor was
able to deliver service through.   This competitor
 is so
  bad they
_never_ answer their phone, have not upgraded
 technology
  in 8
   years and
go down for as much as a week out of four.   We
 can't cover
   them, none
of the others that do decent service will.  But
 they can and
   do use a 4g
verizon card in a router to get service.   They
 pay cell
  phone
   rates
from verizon so I told them about the fusion
 service as it
   will give
them 2x data at about the same price and will not have
  to be on a
charger all the time. 900 will not reach them.  Oh
  well...
Even the
devil gets his due...
   
Robert
   
On 02/23/2014 04:46 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote:
 Wecome to Verizon HomeFusion.

 Regards,
 Chuck


 On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 7:43 PM, heith petersen
   wi...@mncomm.com mailto:wi...@mncomm.com
 mailto:wi...@mncomm.com mailto:wi...@mncomm.com
  mailto:wi...@mncomm.com mailto:wi...@mncomm.com

Re: [WISPA] Fw: FW:

[Robert]

What movie is only 2GB in HD ( per the article...)...?

On 02/23/2014 11:09 PM, Technical wrote:
 Seems Verizon is in the area:
 
  
 
 http://www.cnet.com/8301-17918_1-57429650-85/verizons-homefusion-now-brings-4g-lte-home-but-not-for-cheap/
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
 *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 *On Behalf Of *heith petersen
 *Sent:* Sunday, February 23, 2014 4:43 PM
 *To:* WISPA General List
 *Subject:* [WISPA] Fw: FW:
 
  
 
 I had a customer cancel our service a few weeks ago in a town an hour
 away from me. My billing lady got the impression that she was going to
 use her 4G service. She lives out of town a mile where we are the only
 WISP or service around, aside from satellite or cell service. Our
 equipment was laying by her house as she was away for the day when we
 were there, but stated that the new equipment was mounted in our old
 spot. So my tech took this picture and it said Cantenna on the bottom of
 it. Its not like the Cantenna I have seen in the past. I am real
 positive that I do not have another WISP in the area. Do some WISPS use
 these devices? The closest business is a John Deere dealership, and I am
 fairly certain their IT would not allow external usage of their network,
 and all of the houses in the area use our service. Anyways just curious
 if any one had any ideas of what they could be using this for. I have
 had other customers cheat WiFi from their neighbors with different
 Cantennas, but I would use a UBNT device to re-distribute the service,
 if that’s whats going on
 
  
 
 thanks
 
 heith
 
  
 
 *From:*6052801...@mms.att.net mailto:6052801...@mms.att.net
 
 *Sent:*Sunday, February 23, 2014 6:32 PM
 
 *To:*he...@mncomm.com mailto:he...@mncomm.com
 
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Re: [WISPA] Dual Frequency AP Radio

[Robert]

I am starting to really like the way that itelite presents itself.
This antenna is a good example.  It doesn't say it's a 90 or a 120.   It
just gives the plot and the -3 AND -6 points and you can call it
whatever you want.   Good plots, plenty of data figure it out
yourself...

On 02/13/2014 04:50 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
 I'm not an antenna engineer, so I can't explain it. As the man from
 Brink Networks recently said...  (very much so paraphrased) Europe has
 better antennas than we do because they have to. We piss and moan about
 our RF situations, but they have it worse. They figured things out a
 while ago we haven't even realized are a problem.
 
 http://www.itelite.net/en/Katalog/5-GHz-80211a-Triband//SECTOR-XL-500182xdual-HV.html
 
 
 
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 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com
 
 
 *From: *Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com
 *To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 *Sent: *Thursday, February 13, 2014 6:41:57 AM
 *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Dual Frequency AP Radio
 
 
 They also have
 antennas so you can put multiple 5 GHz radios on one antenna.
 
 Wait what?  Please explain/link.  How are they diplexing it?
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Re: [WISPA] Dual Frequency AP Radio

[Robert]

Jonathan Walcher

On 02/13/2014 10:43 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
 Jonathan Wilkins? I think that's right... don't remember if the last
 name is right or not.
 
 *Josh Reynolds*
 Chief Information Officer
 SPITwSPOTS
 j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com
 
 On 02/13/2014 03:50 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
 I'm not an antenna engineer, so I can't explain it. As the man from
 Brink Networks recently said...  (very much so paraphrased) Europe has
 better antennas than we do because they have to. We piss and moan
 about our RF situations, but they have it worse. They figured things
 out a while ago we haven't even realized are a problem.

 http://www.itelite.net/en/Katalog/5-GHz-80211a-Triband//SECTOR-XL-500182xdual-HV.html



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 
 *From: *Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com
 *To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 *Sent: *Thursday, February 13, 2014 6:41:57 AM
 *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Dual Frequency AP Radio


 They also have
  antennas so you can put multiple 5 GHz radios on one antenna.

 Wait what?  Please explain/link.  How are they diplexing it?
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Re: [WISPA] Video of Tower work from Quadcopter

[Robert]

Santa did listen to me this year.  But just a training one to start that
I can break without feeling bad...   Next year the full Monte...

On 01/17/2014 06:04 PM, Clay Stewart wrote:
 I want one... Santa didn't listen! (or maybe I just wasn't good enough
 last year)
 
 
 
 
 On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 7:52 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com
 mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote:
 
 Snip Shot from Phantom Vision 2
 
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 More to come
 
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[WISPA] Google aquires Nest...

[Robert Andrews]

After the nest thread last week...So now make SURE your nest's are 
outside your inner firewall...

Best,
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Re: [WISPA] Advice Needed on 200 Mbps FDX Radios

[Robert]

I believe the point is, unless that part of the data sheet is also out
of date ( in which case why have a data sheet? )..  The IDU only has
10/100 ethernet and is going to be really pressed to do 200meg full
duplex.   And if you can do it through that please let all those UBNT
owners who are limited by that know how!   :)

On 01/07/2014 07:20 PM, Freylekhman, Alex wrote:
 Ruben
 We have not updated this data sheet in a while, it specs out our older
 ODU. With new ODU you can go to maximum modem capacity 56MHz at 128QAM.
 As long as as long as link budget permits you will get full bandwidth
 with no degradation over distance. I believe you can get 2xSTM1 channels
 at full modem capacity
 
 Alex
 
 
 Aleksander Freylekhman
 Sales Director, North America
 Axxcelera Broadband Wireless
 a Moseley Company
   P: (804) 864-4125
   M: (440) 220-2192
 afreylekh...@axxcelera.com
 www.axxcelera.com
 
 On Jan 7, 2014 10:11 PM, Rubens Kuhl rube...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 As specified in http://www.axxcelera.com/product_item_detail.php?id=3050:
 
   * Capacity Options Ethernet*:* Up to 100Mbps full duplex plus 2 E1/T1
 wayside 
 
 200 Mbps aggregate == 200 Mbps Half-Duplex, while the original poster
 stated a 200 Mbps Full-Duplex requirement. 
 
 
 Rubens
 
 
 
 On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 1:06 AM, Freylekhman, Alex
 afreylekh...@axxcelera.com mailto:afreylekh...@axxcelera.com wrote:
 
 Ruben,
 We have a product called AB Full Access II . One of the very few
 FD-FDD radios left on the market. It s available in 5GHz band with
 high power transmitter which will help you to save antenna size.
 
 You can get 200mbps quite easy with that as Ethernet, TDM or fiber.
 I believe it will do the job for you
 
 Thanks
 Alex
 
 
 
 Aleksander Freylekhman
 Sales Director, North America
 Axxcelera Broadband Wireless
 a Moseley Company
   P: (804) 864-4125 tel:%28804%29%20864-4125
   M: (440) 220-2192 tel:%28440%29%20220-2192
 afreylekh...@axxcelera.com mailto:afreylekh...@axxcelera.com
 www.axxcelera.com http://www.axxcelera.com
 
 On Jan 7, 2014 8:46 PM, Rubens Kuhl rube...@gmail.com
 mailto:rube...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
 On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 11:10 PM, Ian Framson
 i...@tradeshowinternet.com mailto:i...@tradeshowinternet.com wrote:
 
 Hi Wisps,
 
 We are looking for a pair of radios that can do 200 Mbps FDX
 over 11 miles (real world, not manufacturer's theoretical
 marketing promises). We are looking at using an unlicensed link
 (most likely 5 GHz) due to the time constraints, although we're
 open to suggestions.
 
 The make/model we were considering was Motorola PTP650 with 450
 Mbps upgrade license.  We are not wed to Motorola, however. The
 cost seems to be the limiting factor at this point.
 
 Another WISP I spoke with mentioned Bridgewave TD60 might be 1
 possibility.
 
 Your thoughts?
 
 
 
 UBNT AirFiber 5/5U in 5.8 GHz will be an option when it becomes
 available. AirFiber 24 GHz is said to provide a full-duplex capacity
 of 250 Mbps @ 12.5 miles(http://www.ubnt.com/airlink/), but that
 gives very little room for fade margin, if any. If you can't wait
 for AF5, you could buy AF24 now, and then replace those with AF5s
 later in the year. 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators

[Robert Andrews]

Makes me think of the *MASH* episode where they went around singing

Havin' a heat wave, tropical heat wave


On 12/03/2013 12:09 PM, Sam wrote:
 It actually *was* fun. The worst part about winters in Alaska (the
 interior of Alaska that is) isn't so much the cold - there's rarely any
 wind. You can don a parka, mukluks, and gauntlet gloves (think mittens
 on steroids), move around a little bit, and stay warm. But the lack of
 daylight is a real pain in the posterior. It's the darkest dark you can
 imagine, and like the cold, it's relentless.

 I did have pictures, but I think the wife took them when she upgraded to
 husband 2.0. I can ask her about them though - it was funny seeing a
 bunch of us out in the snow in summer clothes, barbequing our franks

 (And you're welcome. It was an honor.)

 On 12/3/2013 14:02, Clay Stewart wrote:
 Sounds like fun, and thank you for your service! Got pics?


 On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 2:42 PM, Sam w...@csilogan.com
 mailto:w...@csilogan.com wrote:

  I was in the military, stationed in Fairbanks (30 miles south of
  Fairbanks actually) for four years. There was a spell during the winter
  of 1988/1989 where we went something like six weeks with the temperature
  never climbing above -40F. (Fun fact: Five of the top ten lowest
  temperatures ever recorded in Alaska happened in January 1989.) We lived
  on-base so didn't have to deal with propane or LP gas. But I don't
  recall any of my friends living off-base having a problem with it.
  That's not to say it didn't happen.

  A side note...
  I remember one day after that spell of cold weather when a Chinook wind
  blew up from the Gulf of Alaska. The temperature warmed clear up to 0F!
  We were all outside in shorts and short sleeve shirts firing up the BBQ
  grills. Yeah, it was cold, but it was 50F to 60F degrees warmer than
  what we had gotten used to. :)

  Sam


  On 11/26/2013 15:06, D. Ryan Spott wrote:
Even north of fairbanks Propane does not have much of an issue.
  Insulate
and enclose for success.
   
I use a 1500 gal tank so I can get the 1000+ gal discount. They even
apply this discount to my home propane purchases for the rest of
  the year!
   
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Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators

[Robert]

How often is the tank refilled for what power load?



On 11/26/2013 10:26 AM, D. Ryan Spott wrote:
 *Someone* lives in Florida and does not need a Snowcat or Snowmachine to
 get to his sites...
 
 Sometimes paying a little extra for always on and always working is a
 good thing. The maintenance on the TEG I have running is:
 light
 let run for 1-5 years
 clean jets
 relight
 repeat.
 
 No moving parts and always working is a bonus. :)
 
 ryan
 
 On 11/26/13 9:25 AM, Scott Carullo wrote:
 Remember, I can buy 4 7Kw gensets instead of the one tiny TEG :)

 Scott Carullo
 Technical Operations
 855-FLSPEED x102



 
 *From*: D. Ryan Spott rsp...@irongoat.net
 *Sent*: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 12:15 AM
 *To*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators

 Who was this from?

 Remember there is ZERO maintenance on a TEG.

 ryan

 On 11/25/13 9:04 PM, Mike Lyon wrote:
  So i heard back on pricing today for the 100 watt propane TEG. $7960
  plus a $300 mount.
 
 
  It's a cool idea but a Generac 7kw propane genset for $1900 with free
  Amazon Prime shipping seems to be a better deal...
 
  -Mike
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Re: [WISPA] LP / Propane generators

[Robert]

+1000

On 11/20/2013 02:38 AM, Mike Lyon wrote:
 Found the price. About $2450. Not too bad. Beats running up to the hill
 @ 1am to swap batteries and trying not to get the truck stuck in the mud...
 
 -Mike
 
 
 
 On Nov 20, 2013, at 2:29, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com
 mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote:
 
 Those were kinda of pricey iirc

 Sent from my Motorola Startac... 


 On Nov 20, 2013, at 6:07 AM, Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com
 mailto:mike.l...@gmail.com wrote:

 While on my constant quest of trying to figure out my wonderful power
 situation, it made me think to look up LP/Propane generators.

 I found a pretty cool little RV one made by Cummins:

 http://goo.gl/ZSrscl

 Get one of these, drop it into a JOBOX or the alike, and problem solved!

 Off to go find the price for it...

 -Mike


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Re: [WISPA] Good source for refurb Juniper?

[Robert Nickerson]

Hi

Try http://www.terabitsystems.com/

RAN

On 11/20/2013 11:43 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:


We are in the market for possibly 2 MX240 units, any good sources for 
refurb/used Juniper gear?


Gino A. Villarini

g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com

Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.

787.273.4143


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Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum.

[Robert]

Spectrum trashers   At least if there's no traffic on them there
shouldn't be much noise..

On 11/15/2013 06:26 AM, Zach Mann wrote:
 He's talking about these... (see attached)
 
 
 On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 8:01 AM, Scott Carullo
 sc...@brevardwireless.com mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote:
 
 I'm not talking about the ones in peoples homes, I'm talking about
 the ones the cable carrier hangs on the lines outside runing through
 the city on every corner  clear LOS to every tower around.
 
 Scott Carullo
 Technical Operations
 855-FLSPEED x102
 
 
 
 
 *From*: Brian Webster bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com
 mailto:bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com
 *Sent*: Friday, November 15, 2013 8:24 AM
 *To*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 mailto:wireless@wispa.org
 *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum.
 
 One good thing about the higher bands and the noise floor is that
 free space loss works to your advantage. That being that a 5 GHz
 indoor Omni home AP router signal will fall off as an interference
 source as a much shorter distance than a 2.4 GHz device will. The
 laws of physics work in your favor.
 
  
 
 Thank You,
 
 Brian Webster
 
 www.wirelessmapping.com http://www.wirelessmapping.com
 
 www.Broadband-Mapping.com http://www.Broadband-Mapping.com
 
  
 
 *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org
 mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
 [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
 mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Scott Carullo
 *Sent:* Thursday, November 14, 2013 6:52 PM
 *To:* Matt Hoppes; sc...@brevardwireless.com
 mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum.
 
  
 
 Hard to tell, noise floor is noise floor which keeps creeping up -
 we all know things work better when its quiet.  This used to worry
 me a lot when I saw it coming, but then I realized it was already
 there and I had no idea until I just happened to scan on some radios
 (I don't usually install the stuff).  I'm not worried any more, if
 its not one thing it will be another any way.  Thats what gives us
 the edge every day, flexibility.  We will work around it, we always do.
 
 I figure a high gain antenna on a tower with a good directional CPE
 will continue to work fine.  Their omni low gain antenna can't
 compete with a 20-30db directional one.  Still sucks though, you
 drive down the street and see one after another running 5Ghz just
 knowing there probably isn't 3 connections in the whole city to them
 
 Scott Carullo
 Technical Operations
 855-FLSPEED x102
 
  
 
 
 
 *From*: Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com
 mailto:mhop...@indigowireless.com
 *Sent*: Thursday, November 14, 2013 6:43 PM
 *To*: sc...@brevardwireless.com mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com
 sc...@brevardwireless.com mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com,
 WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org
 *Cc*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 mailto:wireless@wispa.org
 *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum.
 
 Are you seeing any impact from them?
 
 
 On Nov 14, 2013, at 18:03, Scott Carullo
 sc...@brevardwireless.com mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote:
 
 Yeah, won't matter either way with a 5Ghz AP on every street
 corner.  Already seeing that in our areas  do a wireless
 scan and you see 354 5Ghz APs now in addition to the 2Ghz ones
 (they run dual band APs now).
 
 Scott Carullo
 Technical Operations
 855-FLSPEED x102
 
  
 
 
 
 
 *From*: Bret Clark bcl...@spectraaccess.com
 mailto:bcl...@spectraaccess.com
 *Sent*: Thursday, November 14, 2013 5:49 PM
 *To*: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org
 *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum.
 
 What could go wrong with Comcast taking up yet more 5GHz of
 spectrum...[/sarcasm off]
 
 On 11/14/2013 01:40 PM, ralph wrote:
 
 I hope the links at the bottom come through.
 
 ---
 
  
 
 Comcast needs the FCC to open up the 5 GHz spectrum band to
 power next-generation Wi-Fi services that could allow it to
 deliver wireless broadband at speeds of up to 1 Gbps, SVP of
 Business Development Tom Nagel testified at a House Energy
 and Commerce hearing on Wednesday.
 
  
 
 

Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum.

[Robert]

Of course they gave it a thought...   Hmmm I wonder when we can get
some of these with even more power?It's a snatch and grab...  If
they can chase everyone away, it's theirs

On 11/15/2013 08:18 AM, Zach Mann wrote:
 Coming from the WISP side, I asked them why they have these blasting at
 full power, 24/7 when the zone director surely could manage power levels
 when needed.
 
 I didn't get a answer.  I don't think they even gave it a thought about
 who they might interfere with.   
 
 On Friday, November 15, 2013, Robert wrote:
 
 Spectrum trashers   At least if there's no traffic on them there
 shouldn't be much noise..
 
 On 11/15/2013 06:26 AM, Zach Mann wrote:
  He's talking about these... (see attached)
 
 
  On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 8:01 AM, Scott Carullo
  sc...@brevardwireless.com javascript:;
 mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com javascript:; wrote:
 
  I'm not talking about the ones in peoples homes, I'm talking about
  the ones the cable carrier hangs on the lines outside runing
 through
  the city on every corner  clear LOS to every tower around.
 
  Scott Carullo
  Technical Operations
  855-FLSPEED x102
 
 
 
 
 
  *From*: Brian Webster bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com
 javascript:;
  mailto:bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com javascript:;
  *Sent*: Friday, November 15, 2013 8:24 AM
  *To*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org javascript:;
  mailto:wireless@wispa.org javascript:;
  *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum.
 
  One good thing about the higher bands and the noise floor is that
  free space loss works to your advantage. That being that a 5 GHz
  indoor Omni home AP router signal will fall off as an interference
  source as a much shorter distance than a 2.4 GHz device will. The
  laws of physics work in your favor.
 
 
 
  Thank You,
 
  Brian Webster
 
  www.wirelessmapping.com http://www.wirelessmapping.com
 http://www.wirelessmapping.com
 
  www.Broadband-Mapping.com http://www.Broadband-Mapping.com
 http://www.Broadband-Mapping.com
 
 
 
  *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org javascript:;
  mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org javascript:;
  [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org javascript:;
  mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org javascript:;] *On Behalf
 Of *Scott Carullo
  *Sent:* Thursday, November 14, 2013 6:52 PM
  *To:* Matt Hoppes; sc...@brevardwireless.com javascript:;
  mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com javascript:;; WISPA
 General List
  *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum.
 
 
 
  Hard to tell, noise floor is noise floor which keeps creeping up -
  we all know things work better when its quiet.  This used to worry
  me a lot when I saw it coming, but then I realized it was already
  there and I had no idea until I just happened to scan on some
 radios
  (I don't usually install the stuff).  I'm not worried any more, if
  its not one thing it will be another any way.  Thats what gives us
  the edge every day, flexibility.  We will work around it, we
 always do.
 
  I figure a high gain antenna on a tower with a good
 directional CPE
  will continue to work fine.  Their omni low gain antenna can't
  compete with a 20-30db directional one.  Still sucks though, you
  drive down the street and see one after another running 5Ghz just
  knowing there probably isn't 3 connections in the whole city
 to them
 
  Scott Carullo
  Technical Operations
  855-FLSPEED x102
 
 
 
 
 
 
  *From*: Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com javascript:;
  mailto:mhop...@indigowireless.com javascript:;
  *Sent*: Thursday, November 14, 2013 6:43 PM
  *To*: sc...@brevardwireless.com javascript:;
 mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com javascript:;
  sc...@brevardwireless.com javascript:;
 mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com javascript:;,
  WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org javascript:;
 mailto:wireless@wispa.org javascript:;
  *Cc*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org javascript:;
  mailto:wireless@wispa.org javascript:;
  *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum.
 
  Are you seeing any impact from them?
 
 
  On Nov 14, 2013, at 18:03, Scott Carullo
  sc...@brevardwireless.com javascript:;
 mailto:sc

Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum.

[Robert]

So does that mean I can use the African bands for my S. African
customers and etc...?

On 11/14/2013 04:12 PM, Scott Carullo wrote:
 You can always go to the Japanese channels, they always seem to be nice
 and quiet ;)  We have lots of Asian customers so we are allowed to use
 them in some areas...
 
 Scott Carullo
 Technical Operations
 855-FLSPEED x102
 
 
 
 
 *From*: Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com
 *Sent*: Thursday, November 14, 2013 6:59 PM
 *To*: sc...@brevardwireless.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum.
 
 Yeah... this is why I always preach 20dB above the noise floor...
 signals in the 45 to 55 range. If you install in the 70s you have no
 where to go.
 
 
 Matt Hoppes
 Director of Information Technology
 Indigo Wireless
 +1 (570) 723-7312
 
 On 11/14/13, 6:52 PM, Scott Carullo wrote:
 Hard to tell, noise floor is noise floor which keeps creeping up - we
 all know things work better when its quiet.  This used to worry me a lot
 when I saw it coming, but then I realized it was already there and I had
 no idea until I just happened to scan on some radios (I don't usually
 install the stuff).  I'm not worried any more, if its not one thing it
 will be another any way.  Thats what gives us the edge every day,
 flexibility.  We will work around it, we always do.

 I figure a high gain antenna on a tower with a good directional CPE will
 continue to work fine.  Their omni low gain antenna can't compete with a
 20-30db directional one.  Still sucks though, you drive down the street
 and see one after another running 5Ghz just knowing there probably isn't
 3 connections in the whole city to them

 Scott Carullo
 Technical Operations
 855-FLSPEED x102



 
 *From*: Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com
 *Sent*: Thursday, November 14, 2013 6:43 PM
 *To*: sc...@brevardwireless.com sc...@brevardwireless.com, WISPA
 General List wireless@wispa.org
 *Cc*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum.

 Are you seeing any impact from them?

 On Nov 14, 2013, at 18:03, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com
 mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote:

 Yeah, won't matter either way with a 5Ghz AP on every street corner.
 Already seeing that in our areas  do a wireless scan and you see
 354 5Ghz APs now in addition to the 2Ghz ones (they run dual band APs
 now).

 Scott Carullo
 Technical Operations
 855-FLSPEED x102



 
 *From*: Bret Clark bcl...@spectraaccess.com
 mailto:bcl...@spectraaccess.com
 *Sent*: Thursday, November 14, 2013 5:49 PM
 *To*: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org
 *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Comcast asking FCC for more 5GHz spectrum.

 What could go wrong with Comcast taking up yet more 5GHz of
 spectrum...[/sarcasm off]

 On 11/14/2013 01:40 PM, ralph wrote:

 I hope the links at the bottom come through.

 ---

 Comcast needs the FCC to open up the 5 GHz spectrum band to power
 next-generation Wi-Fi services that could allow it to deliver
 wireless broadband at speeds of up to 1 Gbps, SVP of Business
 Development Tom Nagel testified at a House Energy and Commerce
 hearing on Wednesday.

 Nagel disclosed in his prepared testimony that Comcast has expanded
 the number of Wi-Fi access points for Xfinity high-speed Internet
 customers to 350,000. The nation's largest cable MSO also began
 deploying wireless gateways from Cisco earlier this year that Comcast
 has said may be able to power millions of neighborhood hotspots.

 While Comcast already is already using the 5 GHz band, Nagel said it
 needs more of the unlicensed spectrum to meet demand from subscribers
 for Wi-Fi. It faces potential opposition from Toyota and other
 automobile manufacturers who want to use the 5 GHz band to deliver
 next-generation connected car applications, including applications
 that would warn drivers of collision threats.

 Toyota principal researcher John Kenney raised concerns about
 possible interference from Wi-Fi services at Wednesday's hearing.
  We have been actively engaged with the Wi-Fi community and other
 stakeholders who are exploring possible sharing solutions that will
 alleviate any risk of harmful interference from unlicensed devices.
 But we're not there yet and it's going to take a bit more time to see
 if we can get there, Kenney said in his prepared testimony.

 For more:
 - see Nagel's prepared testimony
 http://links.mkt1985.com/ctt?kn=207ms=NzE0MjgxOQS2r=NDc2MTk4ODcyMzcS1b=0j=MTc5NzA2OTg3S0mt=2rj=MTc5NzA2OTg3S0rt=0
  (.pdf)
 - see Kenney's prepared testimony
 http://links.mkt1985.com/ctt?kn=187ms=NzE0MjgxOQS2r=NDc2MTk4ODcyMzcS1b=0j=MTc5NzA2OTg3S0mt=2rj=MTc5NzA2OTg3S0rt=0
 

Re: [WISPA] Fwd: Re: [AFMUG] Fight to keep 365 Dec 11​

[Robert]

Wow, this comes how many days after the new Fcc chair is confirmed?   I
wonder if the writing is on the wall this quick?

On 11/04/2013 06:29 AM, timothy steele wrote:
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 Date: Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 9:17 AM
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fight to keep 365 Dec 11
 To: a...@afmug.com mailto:a...@afmug.com a...@afmug.com
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 Cc: a...@afmug.com mailto:a...@afmug.com a...@afmug.com
 mailto:a...@afmug.com, Principal WISPA Member List
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 The PDF makes it look like The FCC is giving it to the cell
 company's tho.. Anyone have more info?
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 On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 9:00 AM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)
 geo...@cbcast.com mailto:geo...@cbcast.com wrote:
 
 I don't see it as losing it. They'll have to grandfather
 existing and deployed equipment, at least for a few years.
 There's no way they'd be able to enforce a shutdown/take-down order.
 
 If we want 3550-3650, then we (and manufacturers) will have to
 submit to this geolocation database shared spectrum access idea
 like TVWS. If the rules get simplified, like getting rid of the
 CPE registration and the stupid restricted/non-restricted band
 split, good. I read the WiMax forum slides and this is pretty
 much what they're saying, too.
 
 
 On 11/4/2013 5:36 AM, timothy steele wrote:
 Repost from other forums

 Your comments are needed on this proceeding. Especially, the
 FCC wants to know about adding the current 3.65 band to this
 proposed 3.5 band and ELIMINATING the current 3.65 setup and
 systems that are using it NOW 

 **

 *GN Docket No. 12-354*

  If you currently have 3.65 licensed equipment or a system up
 and running, you have the possiblity of LOSING IT !!!


 
 http://community.ubnt.com/t5/Business-Talk/FCC-3-5-proceeding-comment-needed-or-possible-3-65-band-is-GONE/m-p/614551#U614551


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Re: [WISPA] Siklu/Dragonwave 80 Ghz..

[Robert]

What are the max distances these will do with the 3 foot dishes?
(moderate rain, not tropical rain)...

On 10/14/2013 07:47 PM, Fred Goldstein wrote:
 On 10/14/2013 7:33 PM, Bob Moldashel wrote:
 OK.  So a customer pops up out of no where and says he is interested in
 one of these links.  Does anyone have any positive/negative/neutral
 comments/experience?

 On or off list

 
 We have a few Dragonwaves going, 50 and 200 Mbps, some for a few miles 
 in an urban core environment, and they seem pretty nice.  The licensed 
 80 GHz band has much better range than unlicensed 60 GHz, though of 
 course the very narrow beamwidth means you have to have a good antenna 
 mount and be careful about storm damage, or about some bozo working on 
 the roof who disturbs it.
 
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[WISPA] Mixed Single and dual polarity?

[Robert Andrews]

Simple questions:

 1) Does anyone have experience running systems with mixed clients?  
i.e. Dual polarity AP and mixed single and dual polarity clients?

 2) Is anyone willing to summarize their experiences?


Thanks!

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Re: [WISPA] Mixed Single and dual polarity?

[Robert]

Actually this will probably be Mikrotik and I'm looking at the
possibilities of upgrading what is now single pol to dual...  There is
plenty of performance single, just planning on adding dual..

But much appreciation on the feedback...

On 10/10/2013 02:12 PM, Blair Davis wrote:
 It works ok as long as all are AirMax for UBNT.
 
 The single pol units take a preformance hit.
 
 Not a good idea if the AP is heavly loaded.
 
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 On 10/10/2013 3:35 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
 You mean in Ubnt?  It's not devastating, but your 1x1 clients are
 eating up twice as much time doing the same work a 2x2 radio would do.
  Cuts your APs capacity in half while using the full spectrum =(


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 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
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 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373


 On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Robert Andrews
 nos...@avantwireless.com mailto:nos...@avantwireless.com wrote:

 Simple questions:

  1) Does anyone have experience running systems with mixed
 clients?
 i.e. Dual polarity AP and mixed single and dual polarity clients?

  2) Is anyone willing to summarize their experiences?


 Thanks!

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[WISPA] Fwd: Re: ARIN numbers

[Robert]

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARIN numbers
Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2013 10:48:28 -0700
From: Robert Andrews i...@avantwireless.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org

Unfortunately the days of having IP address space In case are long
gone...   ARIN will probably implement use it or lose it as the next
step before address exhaustion in IPV4...

Robert

On 10/03/2013 10:41 AM, heith petersen wrote:
 I might have read that wrong on their site, but I thought there were
 some exclusions from being multi-homed. More or less I want my own space
 incase I want to make a move down the road to different provider. Maybe
 it will raise a flag with our current provider that these guys are
 looking. I would actually have to buy from a competitor to be
 multihomed, however I am sure a lot of WISPS have to do this as well
  
 heith
  
 *From:* Jon Auer mailto:j...@tapodi.net
 *Sent:* Thursday, October 03, 2013 12:24 PM
 *To:* WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] ARIN numbers
  
 Pretty much the only hard and fast rule is you need to be multihomed. 
 If you are not multihomed you don't need ARIN and should be getting the
 IP space from your upstream provider.
 
 
 On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 12:21 PM, heith petersen wi...@mncomm.com
 mailto:wi...@mncomm.com wrote:
 
 Well, I have several pops but from the same provider. I have a /20.
 All are allocated to routers, likely using close to 70%. I would
 need to dig in a little deeper. Some of our space we allocated to
 others that we resell bandwidth to, kind of gets a little messy
  
 heith
  
 *From:* Mike Hammett mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net
 *Sent:* Thursday, October 03, 2013 11:47 AM
 *To:* WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] ARIN numbers
  
 ARIN has little to nothing to do with the US Government. Maybe only
 historical, if it exists.
 
 You should multi-home anyway.
 
 How many IPs do you have?
 
 How many IPs are you using?
 
 
 
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 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com
 
 
 *From: *heith petersen wi...@mncomm.com mailto:wi...@mncomm.com
 *To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 mailto:wireless@wispa.org
 *Sent: *Thursday, October 3, 2013 11:37:21 AM
 *Subject: *[WISPA] ARIN numbers
 
 Kind of late in the game for this question, but has anyone been able
 to successfully acquire IP space from ARIN? I have read that they
 have 1 full/8  3/4 of another /8. We have always received our IPs
 from our upstream provider, and where I live there are not a lot of
 other choices for providers. Honestly, we may have been lulled into
 thinking that we were to small to get our own space, or we needed to
 be multi-homed.
  
 I have read on the website that we could fairly easily qualify, as
 far as what is currently percentage wise utilized. I need to start
 shifting all our networks to be fully routed and would be nice to
 have our own space. Our provider is fairly big in the upper plains,
 however things may change were we need to shift, or maybe get a
 second provider.
  
 I assume that since ARIN is a non-profit organization that they
 would not be affected by the current government shut down. I could
 be wrong. I see they will be represented at WISPALooza this year. I
 was hoping to get a little input on current success from others
 before I put in a lot more research
  
 thanks in advance
  
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[WISPA] Urgent need

[Robert Clark]

We have an urgent need of a exalt Extendair 11 Rc110005

 

Anyone know where I can get one ASAP 

 

We just have one that failed 

 

 

 

Robert W Clark

Network Administrator

Bolt Internet

928-717-BOLT Etx 112

 

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Re: [WISPA] Latest trend for heavy wooded areas

[Robert]

Funny (or not depending upon your point of view ) thing is that the best
results for throughput/penetration with 900Mhz was with the original
SR9's from UBNT.  Better throughput by 2-3x than XR9 but less
interference resistance but being able to run smaller channels with the
same throughput made up for that.  All that was from before 900 rollout
from the utilities and the 900 band turning into complete junk when the
power meters do updates and other heavy usage..  We tried the other UBNT
gear with not nearly the same results, but with and without external
antennas.

On 08/22/2013 07:20 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
 Ubnt 900 apparently has extremely poor nlos for 900 MHz.  I've heard
 this a handful of people but haven't tried it myself.
 
 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
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 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 
 
 On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net 
 wrote:
 How is it junk? IIRC, everyone I've asked that claimed a given 900 MHz
 system was junk had a poor RF environment.



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 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 
 From: Erik Anderson erik.ander...@hocking.net
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 8:49:55 AM

 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Latest trend for heavy wooded areas

 98% of our terrain is heavily wooded. Ubiquiti 900 is junk (but their other
 products perform quite well when they can be used). Cambium 900 is better.
 Out limited experience with whitespace has been good. All of these
 technologies have very low bandwidth.

 On 8/22/2013 12:04 AM, Chris Fabien wrote:

 What are you guys deploying lately in heavily wooded areas? We've used both
 Cambium pmp320 Wimax and UBNT M900, with mixed results on both. We just put
 up a 130ft tower in a heavily wooded river valley area, leaning towards the
 UBNT solution but hate putting money into something I'm not really satisfied
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Re: [WISPA] ATT Launches LTE powered Home Internet and Phone Service in selected markets

[Robert Andrews]

This means that for our average $45/month customer who uses on average
30 Gigs they could pay $120 instead  Wow the POWER of AT*T
(not!)

On 07/29/2013 05:28 PM, Gino Villarini wrote:
 ATT Launches LTE powered Home Internet and Phone Service in selected
 markets
 
  
 
 http://ow.ly/nrnQ0
 
  
 
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 g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com
 
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Re: [WISPA] ATT Launches LTE powered Home Internet and Phone Service in selected markets

[Robert]

This means that for our average $45/month customer who uses on average
30 Gigs they could pay $120 instead  Wow the POWER of AT*T
(not!)

On 07/29/2013 05:28 PM, Gino Villarini wrote:
 ATT Launches LTE powered Home Internet and Phone Service in selected
 markets
 
  
 
 http://ow.ly/nrnQ0
 
  
 
 Gino A. Villarini
 
 g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com
 
 Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
 
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Re: [WISPA] Voltage regulator

[Robert]

http://www.mini-box.com/DCDC-USB-200?sc=8category=1264

On 07/15/2013 03:27 PM, ~NGL~ wrote:
 I need a means to regulate the voltage coming out of the
 Solar Controller  I need a constant 24 volts for Tranzeo and Ubiquiti
 radios. I now have between 25 and 29 volts.
 Any suggestions?
 NGL
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Re: [WISPA] Industry Accronym

[Robert Clark]

Coming soon FiWi  Second Generation 

 

Just like cells Phone company's 

2g

3g

4g

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jack Unger
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 8:02 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Industry Accronym

 

+1 for FiWi (for fixed wireless - the broadband is almost a given)

Pronounced fy why




On 4/16/2013 5:17 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

FiWi IMO

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
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Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Apr 16, 2013 8:15 PM, Jorge Santiago jscnetwo...@gmail.com
mailto:jscnetwo...@gmail.com  wrote:

Gino, honestly that sounds weird! LOL

 

On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 7:56 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com
mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com  wrote:

So I was thinking that us as Wisp need a service acronym to market. like
WiFi,  4G, LTE and DSL..   And it hit me.

 

Fixed Wireless Broadband.

 

FiWi-B  

 

Promunced feewee bee?

 

No?

 

Gino A. Villarini

g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com 

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[WISPA] WISPAmerica

[Robert]

I just wanted congratulate the wispa org for doing their members proud.
  I was not able to attend due to knee surgery, but in a whole lotta
years of hearing about and attending conferences NEVER have I heard so
much praise about an event of this size.  Specially with such a diverse
membership.   Quality people do quality work.  Again Congrats!

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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Rocket Titanium

[Robert]

Exactly...   UBNT looks more and more like a company trying less and
less to stay out in front of the competition but locking in their
customers...   Very apple-ish...   h   Robert was at apple...


On 04/06/2013 09:11 AM, Paolo Di Francesco wrote:
 Hi Josh
 
 I did not notice the voltage change, but it looks like more a business 
 strategy (their switch does 24V and 48V) to lockout other vendors than a 
 real technical need
 
 Should I reimplement again a new battery system at 48V for the site? Hum
 
 Thank you
 
 
 Ya...better.  Different voltage though.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Apr 6, 2013 11:04 AM, Paolo Di Francesco
 paolo.difrance...@level7.it mailto:paolo.difrance...@level7.it wrote:

 Hi all

 I was wondering if the Rockets-Titanium are stable, or if somebody is
 using them with success.
 Not sure if they perform better than the plastic ubiquiti

 Still missing the multiple SSID and IPv6 support, who knows if Ubiquiti
 will implement that sooner or later...

 Let me know your feedback and if the extra cost worths the
 improvements :)

 Thank you

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 Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo

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 Fax : +39-091-8772072 tel:%2B39-091-8772072
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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Rocket Titanium

[Robert]

I would argue that WISP industry standard is 12-28 V poe, as the
majority of the equipment that vendors distribute use power supplies in
that voltage range.   48 V is not that common amid the non-telco   When
you get to the pricey suppliers the 48af V poes ARE the standard.   But
that's a cost that we don't want to throw at our customers   I like
standards as long as there are implementations of those standards that
take advantage of production quantities to lower costs not lock in
higher prices.   i.e. Ethernet vs. token-ring   IMNSHO...  I'm not
saying there aren't advantages to 48V when you need the watts.   But did
the Titanium really have a bigger wattage requirement?   Everything
about it that I saw said it's the same inside as the plastic.


Robert

On 04/06/2013 09:20 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
 How does that lock out other vendors?  They have started using 48 volts on 
 all the new stuff. That's actually industry standard!
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Apr 6, 2013, at 12:18, Robert nos...@avantwireless.com wrote:
 
 Exactly...   UBNT looks more and more like a company trying less and
 less to stay out in front of the competition but locking in their
 customers...   Very apple-ish...   h   Robert was at apple...


 On 04/06/2013 09:11 AM, Paolo Di Francesco wrote:
 Hi Josh

 I did not notice the voltage change, but it looks like more a business 
 strategy (their switch does 24V and 48V) to lockout other vendors than a 
 real technical need

 Should I reimplement again a new battery system at 48V for the site? Hum

 Thank you


 Ya...better.  Different voltage though.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Apr 6, 2013 11:04 AM, Paolo Di Francesco
 paolo.difrance...@level7.it mailto:paolo.difrance...@level7.it wrote:

Hi all

I was wondering if the Rockets-Titanium are stable, or if somebody is
using them with success.
Not sure if they perform better than the plastic ubiquiti

Still missing the multiple SSID and IPv6 support, who knows if Ubiquiti
will implement that sooner or later...

Let me know your feedback and if the extra cost worths the
improvements :)

Thank you

--


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Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale

Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo

C.F. e P.IVA  05940050825
Fax : +39-091-8772072 tel:%2B39-091-8772072
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Re: [WISPA] Complete list of WISP used billing products

[Robert Clark]

Radius manager is another program 

Wispmon and visp Yuck

Currently happy with platypus

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 11:17 AM
To: a...@afmug.com; WISPA General List; memb...@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Complete list of WISP used billing products

 

I'm looking to put a complete list together.  Does anyone have any
additional ideas?

Powercode

Platypus

Billmax

Wispmon

BOSS (beta? released?)

Azotel

Freeside

VISP

Rodopi

 

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Re: [WISPA] Easy hotspot programs

[Robert Clark]

Raduis Manager have been using for 3 years

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 1:47 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Easy hotspot programs

 

This comes up time and time again, but I wonder if anyone has found an easy
solution yet.

 

I have a Mikrotik.  I used to use Wireless Orbit and they did it the way I
expect, but with the lack of support or contact I found it too odd to use.
I want a solution so users can easily get online via their
phone/tablet/computer without any complication, like hotels and such.

 

Does anyone know of a solution for this?




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Re: [WISPA] Medical companies

[Robert Clark]

We have lots of work from home medical transcriptionist on our network we
even have our local hospital recommending us to their new hires but they
handle the security on their side we just provide the transport 

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Adam Greene
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 3:33 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Medical companies

 

If they establish a VPN to the hospital, the medium shouldn't matter, as
traffic will be encrypted.

On 1/10/2013 4:32 PM, Scott Reed wrote:

We have a local hospital  that won't allow using wireless because they had a
bad experience with a different supplier.
Since a lot of their people don't tell them who the provider is, we have
several customers using our service.

I agree with one of the other posts.  Tell the customer to tell them they
have an Ethernet connection.  It is true and eliminates the issue of medium.
If they require DSL, I guess it is a good thing you are not a fiber
provider.  That wouldn't be DSL either.



On 1/10/2013 1:36 PM, Mike Asher wrote:

Hello All,

I have someone who wants to work from home, they work for a hospital and
the hospital
says they have to use dsl and wireless is not allowed. Is this a law, maybe
hipaa?  Thank
you for any info.

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Re: [WISPA] Fwd: OT: Hurricane retweet-2-smtp.

[Robert Kim App and Facebook Marketing]

I'll post this to my twitter.

See if someone has a search filter set up for it...

and then, I'll forward any response.

On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com wrote:

 In case anyone can help.

 -mike

 Sent from my iPhone

 Begin forwarded message:

 *From:* jamie rishaw
 *Date:* November 10, 2012, 21:11:41 PST
 *To:* NANOG list
 *Subject:* *OT: Hurricane retweet-2-smtp.*

 Here would be a prime guess.. obviously anyone that can help, karma=good..

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Re: [WISPA] [AFMUG] American Tower Wisp Deal

[Robert Clark]

I would love to see The Arizona Parse

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 9:27 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] [AFMUG] American Tower Wisp Deal

 

Chip, please add me to this request

 

Gino A. Villarini

g...@aeronetpr.com

Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.

787.273.4143

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Spann, Chip
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 12:12 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] [AFMUG] American Tower Wisp Deal

 

Yes, but I can parse it out by state 

Charles Spann

(270) 779-0448

{Sent from my iPhone}


On Nov 9, 2012, at 11:07 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

Does thank cause Google Earth to hang/get real slow?


Josh Luthman
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On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Spann, Chip csp...@connectednation.org wrote:

I have their entire US inventory KML just in case anyone needs a specific state 
but doesn't get an immediate response from their rep

Charles Spann

(270) 779-0448 tel:%28270%29%20779-0448 

{Sent from my iPhone}


On Nov 9, 2012, at 10:37 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

I just heard back from my rep.  Got the towers in Ohio in kml and Excel.

Josh Luthman
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Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
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Troy, OH 45373

On Nov 9, 2012 7:52 AM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:

I think they've had that for about a year now.



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- Original Message -
From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2012 7:41:09 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [AFMUG] American Tower Wisp Deal




AT boasts a 4WISP program. Not sure what sparked it.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Nov 8, 2012 8:38 PM, Mike Lyon  mike.l...@gmail.com  wrote:




Did WISPA score a deal with them or something?


-mike

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 8, 2012, at 17:36, Joe Miller  joemiller...@cableone.net  wrote:







I called them last week…. Still waiting on a call back from them… L






From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [ mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org ] On 
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 7:31 PM
To: a...@afmug.com
Cc: WISPA General List ( wireless@wispa.org )
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [AFMUG] American Tower Wisp Deal



I have my name in. Waiting on info from my rep.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Nov 8, 2012 8:27 PM, Gino Villarini  g...@aeronetpr.com  wrote:



Anyone has the details on this?



Gino A. Villarini

g...@aeronetpr.com

Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.

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Re: [WISPA] State mapping agency access

[Robert Kim App and Facebook Marketing]

Anything on Central California? That's a big chunk of real estate. Also,
it's important for me to get this updated for our internal records asap.
I've been bull dozed by those big 500 pounders before and it's just a
blast!

Yes, i'm being sarcastic! =)

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Re: [WISPA] Looking for beta testers

[Robert Kim App and Facebook Marketing]

YES! Offlist is fine... but I too would also like to see details online
somewhere to see if it's even a fit???


 We are offering free beta units of our new FlexAP basestation in exchange
 for feedback.  If you are interested, please contact me off list.
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Re: [WISPA] 900 AP's and 2.4 AP's

[Robert Canary]

huh? what do you mean downconverted 2.4?Robert CanaryOCDirect Electrical-Datacomm(866) 594-0786 Fax(270) 955-0362 VoiceCanopy? Next to none.Ubiquiti? Watch out - 900 is downconvertered 2.4 =(Josh LuthmanOffice: 937-552-2340Direct: 937-552-23431100 Wayne StSuite 1337Troy, OH 45373


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Is there any problem having 900 AP's and 2.4 AP's on the same tower? They 
will be about 3 foot apart.
Thanx
NGL


  
  

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[WISPA] Tracking Mac

[Robert Canary]

How does one do a trace route on MAC. Apparently I have used an IP address 
somewhere and didn't log it. Now when I assign IP I get multiple messages from 
my arpwatch of a IP Flip Flop happening. These coming from AirSpan because I 
found the MAC listed on the AP but it only shows ETH as the source. 

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Re: [WISPA] List Traffic Programmers

[Robert Kim App and Facebook Marketing]

Alive and working well for me!

And as a PS... if you're using gmail, and you dont ever open emails from a
list serve ... gmail can auto classify it as spam... so if its important to
you... give it a read every now and again!

=)

PS... long time no see guys!

On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 11:45 PM, Eric Rogers ecrog...@precisionds.comwrote:

 Is this list dead?  I haven’t received an email since 6/18. 

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Re: [WISPA] Payment solutions

[Robert Canary]

I have had only good dealings with PayPal. Yes a little more expensive than 
others, but their API has allowed me to integrate some very gnarly programming 
into our back end. They have always helped with issues, both as a buyer and a 
seller. 

Robert Canary 
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 +Infinity!!

 ---Original Message---

 From: Blair Davis
 Date: 5/16/2012 3:14:15 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Payment solutions
 PayPal is a nightmare for the merchant if the client is not honest.

 They are not a bank nor regulated as one, last I recall.

 And if you do deal with them, take precautions.

 setup a separate bank account to deal with them in a different bank
 than you use for your main business accounts and never leave any
 real money in it that you are not willing to loose.

 And last of all, they can't be trusted, nor can you get a person on
 the phone to fix things when they mess them up.

 On 5/16/2012 8:19 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:

 If u think PayPal rates are low... Then u have not seen what rates IP
 Pay offers... :)

 The real benefit with IP Pay is that there is no finger pointing
 between multiple entities involved with credit card processing.

 Pay pal is easy to sign up, easy to use, more expensive tan other
 optionsbut pain in the rear to deal with when u have charge
 backs and other issues

 Faisal

 On May 16, 2012, at 2:37 AM, Robert Kim App and Facebook Marketing 
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 Guys..

 believe it or not... paypal's rates are really low if you're billing
 over 3,000 USD a month
 AND as an organization like WISPA... someone can just call in and get
 negotiated rates using a promo code...

 I did it for several organizations i was a part of!

 WISPMon and IP Pay handle this for me.

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[WISPA] Payment solutions

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Guys...

believe it or not... paypal's rates are really low if you're billing over
3,000 USD a month
AND as an organization like WISPA... someone can just call in and get
negotiated rates using a promo code...

I did it for several organizations i was a part of!

WISPMon and IP Pay handle this for me.

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Re: [WISPA] NYTimes on carrier-induced mobile spectrum crisis

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Eh...

They killed UHF and VHF TV... so i don't see why they cant just totally
kill 1g and 2g

... ummm... is that mean? =D

On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 11:15 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.netwrote:

 There are too many 2G devices out there to eliminate the 2G network.

 Where, how much and what happened with the 1G bands, though?



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Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

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You'll need a solar powered battery pack if totally remote but instead of a
cell phone... you just need a 4g modem.

On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:40 PM, Victoria Proffer 
victo...@stlbroadband.com wrote:

 Is there a remote power strip that can be activated by a cell phone?

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 i.e. 

 strip  cell phone  pstn  my computer

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Re: [WISPA] Zip Code Updates

[Robert Kim App and Facebook Marketing]

Rick, Jean,

Is there a Google Maps version??? it'd be a bit easier to forward along in
email.

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 Jean,

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 I made the map a


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Re: [WISPA] Juniper Network

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Doesn't Juniper change their model numbers and names for different
countries too? It's really hard to compare hardware when the product
numbers change from country to country!

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 With that said, We've been looking into Juniper lately, I like that their
 new lines are all based on the same Juno OS, which is Linux. :-)

 So, my recommendation is... What are you familiar with? Use that.

 I'm not familiar with the Juniper model and foundry products listed to know

 if that is a good product to keep or not.



 Actually BSD.  And I believe JunOS has always been based on BSD.  Not a
 recent thing.

 Just my opinion here.  If a network engineer understand the protocols,
 learning the vendor's OS is not a big deal.  But I get how folks develop a
 comfort sticking with 1 vendor.




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Re: [WISPA] WISP for sale

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HAHAHAHAAA!!! unless you're in So Cal! Girls just want the wealthier guy!


On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Gary Garrett wrote:

  I figured it out by lurking on Match.com,
 All the Chicks want younger guys,  any car will do.







 By the way, can anyone tell me why that hot new red convertible that I
 bought doesn't seem to be helping me get any chicks?

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