Re: [WISPA] UBNT APs: can they do UAM + DHCP on one fat AP?
Thanks, Sam. That is helpful. FWIW, I'm currently researching the following things on UBNT... 1) How exactly is UAM done on all Ubiquiti radios? Specifically, can an AP do the following... a) white lists an offsite portal page (e.g. NNU or Aptilo) b) redirects unauthorized users to this portal page? c) after client pays on portal page, tell the AP UAM webserver on Ubiquiti radio to authenticate the user d) pre-authenticate user MAC addresses that roam from other APs? 2) If a Ubiquiti device already services an SSID, how can it also serve a separate SSID that (a) does it's own UAM, and (b) does its own DHCP scope? Can I do this existing hardware? Or do I need to get a new radio for each new service? Ideally, I'd like to stack services on existing UBNT networks, as well as roll out new ones...hence the reason I'm hoping for some sort of simple UAM overlay. On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Sam Tetherow tethe...@shwisp.net wrote: This sounds pretty much like UniFi. The UniFi units do not handle the DHCP so you would need something handing out leases like a small Mikrotik box. You then add all the UniFi units that you want to be 'seamless' to the same network in the unifi controller. The unifi controller can be run anywhere that is reachable from the UniFi units (the UniFi's do not have to be reachable from the controller though, so then can be behind a NAT). On 07/04/2012 05:17 PM, Rogelio wrote: (Apologies if my questions are a bit naive, I'm still getting used to how Ubiquiti does things. I've always done things the traditional way in carrier networks, i.e. tunneling everything back to the core and then breaking out traffic accordingly). I have some questions about Ubiquiti's ability to integrate with UAM. I have a scenario where I will have approximately 1000-2000 APs scattered across different extremely rural areas with limited backhaul space. These areas will likely NOT have the expertise to properly babysit a core solution. In a past life, I've often just put in an access point with some sort of DHCP solution and UAM redirect. This AP plugged directly into the modem (DSL, cable, etc) and then got a public CPE address which I could manage remotely. When customers hit the open SSID, they got a spash page that was served by NetNearU (NetNearU.com), and when they authenticated, their MAC was whitelisted on for the duration of time. When they went to another AP that had a different DHCP server, their MAC address was pre-authenticated and they appeared (from their perspective to roam). A few questions on how I can do this The Ubiquiti Way. 1) Does Ubiquiti do DHCP at the edge on each AP? If not, is there some 3rd party software I can use? I understand if this is not supported and if I have to figure this out myself. That is not a problem. 2) Does Ubiquiti have a way of vectoring the users off to this database? I see that Chili has a plugin, and it looks relatively simple to integrate. Does this still work with the current OS? Or have things changed? http://coova.org/node/3685 3) Can someone recommend a hosted user database solution that is cheap and reliable? If I had to roll it myself, what would you recommend? 4) Do I have to use UniFi? Can I just script out some sort of login script to quickly deploy and configure these thigns? This project (if it takes off) could be about 1000-2000 thousand APs scattered across rural Africa and South America. I'm hoping for limited equipment at the edge (things like battery backups and customized antennas may be needed in some cases, but I'm hoping for limited network equipment). If anyone has any ideas or would like for me to connect them with the various decision makers, please feel free to contact me offline. I'm not looking to make anything off this project, just donate a little time in helping it get off the ground by asking the right questions. -- Also on LinkedIn? Feel free to connect if you too are an open networker: scubac...@gmail.com ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Also on LinkedIn? Feel free to connect if you too are an open networker: scubac...@gmail.com ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] UBNT APs: can they do UAM + DHCP on one fat AP?
(Apologies if my questions are a bit naive, I'm still getting used to how Ubiquiti does things. I've always done things the traditional way in carrier networks, i.e. tunneling everything back to the core and then breaking out traffic accordingly). I have some questions about Ubiquiti's ability to integrate with UAM. I have a scenario where I will have approximately 1000-2000 APs scattered across different extremely rural areas with limited backhaul space. These areas will likely NOT have the expertise to properly babysit a core solution. In a past life, I've often just put in an access point with some sort of DHCP solution and UAM redirect. This AP plugged directly into the modem (DSL, cable, etc) and then got a public CPE address which I could manage remotely. When customers hit the open SSID, they got a spash page that was served by NetNearU (NetNearU.com), and when they authenticated, their MAC was whitelisted on for the duration of time. When they went to another AP that had a different DHCP server, their MAC address was pre-authenticated and they appeared (from their perspective to roam). A few questions on how I can do this The Ubiquiti Way. 1) Does Ubiquiti do DHCP at the edge on each AP? If not, is there some 3rd party software I can use? I understand if this is not supported and if I have to figure this out myself. That is not a problem. 2) Does Ubiquiti have a way of vectoring the users off to this database? I see that Chili has a plugin, and it looks relatively simple to integrate. Does this still work with the current OS? Or have things changed? http://coova.org/node/3685 3) Can someone recommend a hosted user database solution that is cheap and reliable? If I had to roll it myself, what would you recommend? 4) Do I have to use UniFi? Can I just script out some sort of login script to quickly deploy and configure these thigns? This project (if it takes off) could be about 1000-2000 thousand APs scattered across rural Africa and South America. I'm hoping for limited equipment at the edge (things like battery backups and customized antennas may be needed in some cases, but I'm hoping for limited network equipment). If anyone has any ideas or would like for me to connect them with the various decision makers, please feel free to contact me offline. I'm not looking to make anything off this project, just donate a little time in helping it get off the ground by asking the right questions. -- Also on LinkedIn? Feel free to connect if you too are an open networker: scubac...@gmail.com ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Kazaa / Skype Founder wants to offer free FreedomPop 4G mobile broadband
Lots of fluff, but if they pull this off, this could be to mobile broadband what Skype was to telephony and Kazaa was to music business. http://www.fiercemobilecontent.com/press-releases/lightsquared-and-skype-co-founders-freedompop-partner-offer-free-broadband- Nothing on their web page yethttp://www.freedompop.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] opinion on Yellow Jackets?
What do others here think about the Yellow Jacket tablets / hand helds? AirMagnet is very buggy (crashes all the time, finicky with WiFi cards), and I'm looking for something easy to use in the field that outputs data that is easy to post process later. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] carrier grade label on WiFi products
Every vendor now uses the term carrier grade WiFi, and I'm curious what others think that means. To me, it's something like... high level --features that help increase ARPU --features that let it be operationalized easily lower level --ruggedized --interface to existing provisioning systems --easily maintainable Future things will include (I think) --ability to interface with 3G/4G systems for offload (EAP-SIM, EAP-AKA) --seamless roaming in and out of different RAN zones What do others think here? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] wall plate style AP
Has anyone used or deployed these style access points? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izV6UnNSEyU And are there any other brands that do this sort of thing? I would imagine that there has to be cheaper versions out there -- Also on LinkedIn? Feel free to connect if you too are an open networker: scubac...@gmail.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Guam tower project
Friend of mine is looking for tower climbers and microwave surveyors for a project in Guam, If anyone is interested, I'd be happy to forward their contact info to him. -- Also on LinkedIn? Feel free to connect if you too are an open networker: scubac...@gmail.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Vivato website is back up
A friend just sent me the URL and said that they've put up a real looking page now http://www.vivato.com I don't know enough about their gear to know if these are new products or not. I'm curious which chipset they use. -- Also on LinkedIn? Feel free to connect if you too are an open networker: scubac...@gmail.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: Linux Virtualization
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 8:34 AM, Matt lm7...@gmail.com wrote: I have worked with Linux quite a little mainly with CentOS as an email server etc. I was curious about trying to do some virtualization now. Leaning towards FOSS. Seems like OpenVZ is easiest to implement but also looking at KVM and XEM also. Seems that CentOS 6 will be focusing on KVM. What else is everyone doing here? While I see the benefits of other solution, I am heavily biased towards VMware based on how easy it is to set up. Not quite as efficient as some of the others, but if someone inherits the box after you, they are likely going to be able to support it without a lot of effort. -- Also on LinkedIn? Feel free to connect if you too are an open networker: scubac...@gmail.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] just installed a Huawei...
Not sure if it's any interest of this group, but I just installed a Huawei CX600 router this last week. It's like Cisco quality (garbage!) for the price that Cisco should be (low!). The commands are very similar (e.g. switchport - portswitch, no shut - undo shut, etc), and you configure it almost identical to what you'd expect on a Cisco. The worst part about the Huawei is probably the documentation. It's scattered all over the place, so if you want something simple (like telnet access), it's in a completely different PDF than if you want, say, VLAN configuration commands. Finding it all is a huge scavenger hunt. But hey...for like a 1/4 of the price or whatever (so I've heard), I'd say it's worth it. :b -- Also on LinkedIn? Feel free to connect if you too are an open networker: scubac...@gmail.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] Paetec drives Ethernet-over-copper to 100 Mb/s
On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 7:33 PM, Leon Zetekoff wa4...@backwoodswireless.net wrote: On 5/3/2011 6:29 PM, Brian Webster wrote: http://connectedplanetonline.com/business_services/news/paetec-drives-copper-over-ethernet-to-100mbs-0503/ I have worked with Paetec on dozens of circuits, and they are hands down the best provider I have dealt with for my customers. I would be really interested in knowing what others think about this new service. -- Also on LinkedIn? Feel free to connect if you too are an open networker: scubac...@gmail.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Is Vivato back in the game?
A friend sent me a note saying that Vivato's website has changed from a landing page to something that suggests that they might rise from the dead http://www.vivato.com Perhaps the mobility market picked up enough since they died in 2005 to make their expensive APs worthwhile (like $10-15K, if I remember right). (I never understood how exactly they could use 24 dBi antennas and NOT break FCC regulations. How did they get some PtP workaround or whatever it was...?) -- Also on LinkedIn? Feel free to connect if you too are an open networker: scubac...@gmail.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] pf / ALTQ for controlling torrent deluge
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 8:09 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: MikroTik RouterOS will give you quite a bit of QoS control. However if the traffic is on prot 80, it's a little trickier as you need to manage traffic based on patterns rather than any specific port. For what it's worth, I finally found this Netgate M1n1wall that has pfSense integrated in quite nicely (well known for better than average P2P throttling). Not the best for production, but certainly good enough for home use. http://store.netgate.com/-P218.aspx Add an extra compact flash card, and you will have more memory to install more things. And if you want faster VPN, you can add the crypto accelerator. http://store.netgate.com/-P319C26.aspx -- Also on LinkedIn? Feel free to connect if you too are an open networker: scubac...@gmail.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] connection for cheap splitters?
I am looking for an extremely inexpensive n connector splitter to use on several wireless projects here in Africa. Does anyone have any good suggestions? Since this is a rural area, price point is key here. -- Also on LinkedIn? Feel free to connect if you too are an open networker: scubac...@gmail.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] pf / ALTQ for controlling torrent deluge
I'm looking for a simple (and FREE) solution to deprioritize torrent traffic for several work environments, and looking around, I'm thinking of using something like BSD's pf/ALTQ. Any feedback on this particular tool for this purpose? This isn't to throttle subscribers' networks, as much as it is to keep small office traffic usable. -- Also on LinkedIn? Feel free to connect if you too are an open networker: scubac...@gmail.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Internet service in Austin TX
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 6:08 PM, Charles N Wyble char...@knownelement.com wrote: Hello, I'm going to be relocating to Austin TX (northeast. Anderson Springs apartment complex). Anyone out there providing net access? Several friends of mine in Austin use Clear, and they seem very happy with the throughput that they get around the city area. -- Also on LinkedIn? Feel free to connect if you too are an open networker: scubac...@gmail.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Hog or Hippo ?
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 1:47 AM, Kevin R. Battersby ke...@battersby.net wrote: We use both fees as a deterrent. The worst cause for abuse is Bittorrent in our case. It's always good fun to get the parents on the line and let them in on a few facts about copyright violations and usage charges. Just curious...what would those facts be? That getting in any real trouble with copyright is probably about as likely as winning the lottery? Kids see through these issues, and parents soon see through them, especially when their kids start tunneling through to other juridictions etc (at which point the getting in trouble part becomes a non-issue). At that point, they know that the issue is not the issue, and that it's not copyright you care about, but rather excessive bandwidth. -- Also on LinkedIn? Feel free to connect if you too are an open networker: scubac...@gmail.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] band pass filters
For what it's worth, I had a super noisy Wi-Fi noise environment (hundreds of clients, dozens of APs, little to no channel coordination, etc) and got a handle on the situation by putting these band pass filters http://www.rflinx.com/products/filters/2400/bpf/ I got several of each, but I ended up using channel 1 mostly. When I put that puppy in, I got like 40 dB less noise on the channels I didn't want, and I also could not even hear other APs when I moved the radio to channels 2-11 (there is that much isolation in the filter). Now throughput is much smoother and higher. Before I put these in, bandwidth would be slow and come in spurts (as evidenced by various throughput tools like iperf and online speed tests). -- Also on LinkedIn? Feel free to connect if you too are an open networker: scubac...@gmail.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] nearby Cisco APs suspected of not playing nicely
A wireless network was working fine until around the time a dozen or so Cisco APs went up nearby, and I suspect that they are doing some sort of rogue detection on other APs. My questions to the group is... (1) What type rogue detection does the new Cisco controller have? (I don't have one handy to play with) (2) What exactly does it do to other APs to make associating to them very difficult? (e.g. Does it immitate that other AP and not let it associate?) (3) How can I prove this? (e.g. with a tool like Omnipeek or something) -- Also on LinkedIn? Feel free to connect if you too are an open networker: scubac...@gmail.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] non-802.3 rackmount poe switch
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 5:52 PM, Jason Bailey j284...@yahoo.com wrote: Anyone have a good vendor for a rackmount poe switch for ubnt gear?Getting kinda messy with all the zip-ties and double-sided tape ;) Thanks! Jason While this isn't probably what you're looking for, I recently found this to use in instances where I have non-POE switches and have to keep them in place and can't upgrade them (for various crazy reasons). http://www.microsemi.com/PowerDsine/Documentation/datasheets/PD9000G.pdf HTH others who find themselves in my shoes... -- Also on LinkedIn? Feel free to connect if you too are an open networker: scubac...@gmail.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] where is Meraki a good fit?
A friend of mine has Meraki through a provider here in CA, and I'm curious what others think about them and their niche (particularly those who have found a great niche). Personally, I don't see a solution like this taking off unless there is the right demographic (poorer areas, underserved areas, certain campuses, etc). In main areas covered by 3G and affordable cable / DSL (e.g. $15/mo DSL Extreme), there seems to be little reason to really build out something like Meraki. I could see it in, say, an apartment complex, particularly ones where people are moving in and out and just want temporary access. In these cases, there is a way for the complex to at least pay for part of a wireless solution for their tenants. Another issue I see with Meraki is that for billing, it has to be an open SSID. What about problems such as Firesheep? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firesheep Sure, the credit card info is encrypted, but once someone attaches to the AP, then all of their traffic is clear text. I don't see anything in Meraki (at least the GUI I saw tonight) that prevents this sort of thing. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT Laptops....
bmoldas...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone have a source for new netbooks or small laptops with Win XP operating system? Looking for something sub $600. Using it strictly for programming equipment and running diagnostics. Not doing anything CPU intensive. Unfortunately we are running quite a few programs that don't play well with WIN 7. Don't have a particular brand to recommend, but I would suggest looking at Microcenter. I've seen lots of good ones that fall within that category. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] affordable outdoor/indoor CPE devices
I've got a situation in several non-US countries where various restaurants would like to hop on to a public network. In these cases, the public network covers, say, 50% of an outdoor area (for handhelds and computers) but isn't quite enough to reach indoors. In these situations I'm looking for a CPE device (Ubiquiti?) that might receive the signal (5-10 dBi gain?) then run the signal down an ethernet cable and retransmit that SSID down below. Any suggestions on ones that might do this for cheap? Cheap is key here. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] UBNT GPS
Jerry Richardson wrote: The GPS synchronizes the RF Tx/Rx across all of the AP's similar to Canopy. Cool, that's what I thought (but wasn't sure, as I haven't used Canopy). How do devices like this deal with other devices in the area chatting on the same channel? Is there some sort of CSMA/CA detection on them? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] affordable outdoor/indoor CPE devices
Josh Luthman wrote: Have you tried one of those Picostations and AP WDS? So, if I set them in WDS mode, then they can connect to an existing SSID and re-transmit the signal? (Sorry, haven't tried this yet) Or does the originating AP radio have to support WDS also? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] chipset vs standard based beam forming?
I see lots of discussion about the new 802.11n standard supporting beam forming, and I'm trying to wade through the chipset ones (e.g. Ruckus, Extricom, Meru, etc) and other solutions that claim to be more standards based. From what I gather from the marketing literature, the various vendor solutions direct the signal more efficiently towards specific targets (focusing beam in certain direction, monitoring interference, interference nulling, etc), but that seems to have limited effectiveness when it comes to receiving transmitted packets from the client end (resulting in slow uplink?). In some of these cases, the receive antennas are just an omni antenna. (802.11 is not a timing based protocol, so I don't see how beamforming benefits on the receive side will ever happen) So is the best that we can hope for with beam forming is faster download but the same old upload? How will the standard (once baked in more vendor gear) do things differently? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] expected goodput of Motorola's WiMAX 3.5 GHz access radios?
I am working with someone who inherited a ton of towers with Motorola WiMAX 3.5 GHz access radios on them. They want to get a bridge on the other end and then connect a Wi-Fi server on the other end (connected through an Ethernet cable). Assuming perfect receive RSSI and modulation, what is the upload / download speeds that I can expect this transport to support? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Climbing a 1768' tower
http://www.instructables.com/community/How-to-climb-a-1768-foot-tower/ Wow... WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Recommendation on Redline's PtP line?
I've got a project where I need some affordable PtP links with as little latency as possible, and a friend recommended Redline http://www.tessco.com/products/displayProducts.do?skus=344025%2C344476WT.mc_id=enewscontactID=13579320gwkey=SVRE3SHRV3 http://www.tessco.com/products/displayProductInfo.do?sku=344476eventPage=1 http://www.tessco.com/products/displayProductInfo.do?sku=344025eventPage=1 They are TDD, and from what I hear, they are conservative in their throughput numbers but tend to outperform other vendors who inflate their numbers. Any input there? The ones I listed there run about $1600 retail on TESSCO's site. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mesh
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 10:42 AM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Are there any Munis using Ruckus? They have a city in India, I believe. (Can anyone else confirm this? I can't remember the city) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Best iPhone 4 reception fix I've seen
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[WISPA] SAN recommendations for large CCTV projects?
Since others here sometimes deal with CCTV as a wireless application, I was hoping for some insight on the best *simple* (no frills, really) raw storage solution for 100 - 500 TBs. Right now, I've been looking at Hitachi, EMC, and Compellent (all fairly expensive). I also started looking at Dell's Equallogic line (looks very simple and straight forward). Others I've heard good things about include Pillar but haven't looked at their pricing yet. Any good tips you have would be greatly appreciated. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] yet another WiMAX vs LTE article
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 9:24 AM, Chuck Profito cprof...@cv-access.com wrote: Actually we have found Ruckus to do very well with multipath! i.e. boat docks, moving water, moving boats, moving rolled tin structure, generating killer multipath, kills EVERY OTHER ROUTER/AP EXCEPT RUCKUS. try it , you'll like it. Chuck, were these other radios 802.11n? I ask because pre 802.11n, multipath hurt the performance, as 802.11a/b/g were switched diversity (i.e. take the *best* signal and ignore the other ones). Now that the 802.11n standard has MRC, all of those signals are combined automagically (in theory, of course). So, yes...Ruckus has the reputation of making some kickass antennas to deal with multiplath, but I'm wondering if they can still maintain that edge now that the standard is solidified by IEEE. Put differently, how smart are their antennas now that the standard does a lot of what they were bragging about before? Is their secret sauce now simply a commodity? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] yet another WiMAX vs LTE article
I'm still getting my feet wet with the whole 4G thing and found this interesting http://www.maravedis-bwa.com/Issues/5.29/Readmore3.html (Sorry if it's old news to many...) Almost everyone I know is betting (and betting big!) on LTE. The only ones I know holding out on WiMAX 2 are niche markets in the federal space or ISPs in Africa. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] yet another WiMAX vs LTE article
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 6:57 AM, Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.com wrote: It's not a fair comparison. Some people (is this especially an American disease?) treat everything as a one-on-one death match, and in this case act as if there were a WiMAX Corp. duking it out with LTE Corp. for market supremacy. But they're just tools. This disease reference from this TED talk? :) http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/jonathan_haidt_on_the_moral_mind.html WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] sprint 4g reviews?
On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 7:30 AM, Rubens Kuhl rube...@gmail.com wrote: I know they call it 4G, but it's not 4G. See http://www.wirelessweek.com/Archives/2007/10/WiMAX-is-3G/ Even LTE (when deployed) won't be 4G, only LTE Advanced will, but LTE will be much closer to 4G than WiMAX 802.16e, see http://www.radio-electronics.com/info/cellulartelecomms/4g/3gpp-imt-lte-advanced-tutorial.php. May be 802.16m can achieve 4G goals, if WiMAX still lives by then. LTE-advanced may approach ITU's 4G standards, as 802.16m (WiMAX 2) might also... Some call LTE 3.9G (or something weird) because it's way beyond 3G, but technically falls short of the ITU's official standards. The final goals of LTE-advanced, as I understand, will exceed 4G requirements. (But no telling when that will be, of course.) As for 802.16m (WIMAX 2), it will have its place, particularly in surveillance and grid networks. A lot of countries are auctioning off 2.3 and 2.5 GHz, and many companies are buying these frequencies with WiMAX solutions, but for the most part I've seen 90+% of carriers (e.g. ATT) betting big on LTE. There is some speculation that later this year, WiMAX 2 will be at a better (faster, etc) place than LTE at the same time. WiMAX supporters say that WiMAX is more open (and thus better in the long haul), but as we see in the Linux vs BSD arguments, open comes with a set of problems that more structured solutions don't always have (and vice versa). Others thoughts? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] 2.4/5.x GHz load balancing
As more and more devices support 5.x GHz access, is there solutions to auto optimize clients on the best 2.4 GHz or 5.x GHz channel? That is to say, 2.4 GHz goes farther, but 5.x GHz has more capacity and is less cluttered. Say a new iPad sees both signals, is there an access point that could figure out the best band for it (receive signal for STA, best SNR, etc) and then somehow strongly suggest that the STA switch to that band? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 2.4/5.x GHz load balancing
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 7:55 AM, Justin Wilson li...@mtin.net wrote: You can use connect lists in Mikrotik to force clients to connect at minimum levels. This way you don’t have to worry so much about the band, but meeting those minimum levels. I am assuming you are working this into a hotspot type of setup. Exactly. It's a hotspot, but not just a hotspot, one with tens of thousands of people. The new PDA phones have 5.x GHz chipsets, and I'm hoping to offload a significant number of clients on that bad where feasible. I was hoping for a wireless solution that was automagic there, but haven't yet found one... WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] NEC 400.8 compliant access points
I'm kind of an idiot when it comes to power-related stuff, and I'm hoping someone here knows the answer or can point me in the right direction. I have to put some access points in the plenum space of a hospital environment, and I'm told that it's got to be NEC 400.8 compliant, which means (as I understand) that I cannot simply plug into 110V power. I think some workarounds would be using conduit, some sort of metal box, POE, etc. Any other ideas or pointers on where I need to go to ensure that I comply? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] suggestions on 2.4 GHz cavity filters?
Anyone have any luck using cavity filters to limit coupling interference problems on poorly built cell sites with lots of co-channel interference between sector antennas? (If so, I'd love to know which brands you use) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] suggestions on 2.4 GHz cavity filters?
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 8:57 AM, Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: Are you sure you are seeing interference from cell systems and not from a 2.4 Ghz backhaul for T1's at this or an adjacent site or something else? I have never seen any 2.4 Ghz interference from any cell site equipment. Not saying it can't happen just nothing I have ever heard of and we deal with alot of that. cell as in a 2.4 GHz access radios covering a cell zone, not cell as in a phone cellular side. Basically, there are nine 2.4 GHz radios VERY close together, and performance is horrible (as you might imagine). I'm looking to try to make chicken salad out of chicken crap here. Someone suggested using cavity filters, so I'm looking into that (something I haven't used before). WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] PtP partnering
Some clients and customers of mine have PtP needs, and it's an area where I'm admittedly not very strong in (and thus not wanting to own the project). I'm looking for partners who I can work with, and in return for various leads I pass on, I'd like to get some pointers on various technologies and product lines. Any takers? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] power management tools for cell sites
I'm hoping someone on this list might recommend me some power management options for cell sites. Ideally, I would like something that does the following: --auto-reboots a device when an IP address does not ping --is ruggedized for outdoor environments (or is easy to stuff in a NEMA 4X box) --let's me http or ssh in and reboot certain ports --is affordable enough where I could just budget it in with all of the cameras and wireless devices Tools like iBoot are a step in the right direction, but it doesn't seem to have very many features, and I will likely want some SNMP features so I could, say, graph the power levels in Cacti . (The idea here is to be able to proactively troubleshoot stuff to avoid a truck roll, and if I do have to do a truck roll, I know that the most obvious power-related stuff has been done first) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] budget friendly set top boxes
Do you have any suggestions for budget friendly set top boxes? e.g. TV - set top box - wireless CPE -- wireless stuff outside (mpeg-2 is most likely what they're looking for, not mpeg-4, as it's in South America and they're looking for something very low cost) Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] so-called PCI issue with PtP links
I was talking to an associate, and he said he had a PCI compliance issue with a PtP link that was like 7 miles. If each end is encrypted with an AES key (along with a ton of other stuff, including a 2nd node of the same time as the 1st end), what is the issue? Does PCI need something additional? I figured that lots of other stuff goes into PCI compliance, and that this was a small thing compared to the whole solution. -- Also on LinkedIn? Feel free to add me as a friend: scubac...@gmail.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Motorola 802.11n position paper
While googling for various companies' stragies on using 802.11n, I stumbled across this MOTO PDF http://tinyurl.com/ydd4l48 Nothing too earth shattering, but an interesting read for those new to 802.11n. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] leaky coax
I've got an area of a college football stadium (100K+ people) that has a student section with an expected 50% iPhone usage rate, so I'm considering a leaky coax solution. Does anyone have any experience (good or bad) with such a solution? Also, say I want the leaky coax to work on both 2.4 and 5.8, is there a special multiplexer thing I gotta put it? (I'm new at this and am still researching it) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] NCIC, FIPS, and wireless
I'm planning out a wireless network, and the police want a piece of the action. I'm also guessing that FIPS compliancy addresses NCIC concerns, and I was wondering if anyone could comment on that being sufficient. I'm also wondering if a dual form of authentication adequately addresses the security issues. From what I can tell, if the police do any of the following things (listed in the URL below), then they have to follow NCIC http://www.fbi.gov/hq/cjisd/ncic.htm A contact of mine who works for the police tells me the following interesting things about NCIC, which I'd love feedback on... --if you use PtP links (e.g. T1 lines) between sites, requirements are very lax --if you don't use PtP links, then you'll likely need two form authentication (not necessarily two on separate bands) --everyone assumes that a police network *will* be in compliance --people often build police networks with compliance, as someone will inevitably put secure stuff on top of it later --the penalty for not being compliant is getting shut down until everything is reviewed --only police departments can ask the DOJ for clarification on what is and isn't compliant (vendors can't ask directly) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] stimulus money for wind farms to build wireless
I recently met someone who told me that wind farm projects are awesome wireless opportunities, particularly now that they're becoming eligible for stimulus money. Those I've been talking to from the wind farms say that they're looking for something fast, reliable, and cheaper than fiber, particularly something that will support VoIP for technicians in the field. Is this what others in the WISP market are seeing? (This is a vertical that I know very little about, but I thought I'd share it with others here who might be looking for new business. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] opinions on Gigabeam?
I'd be curious as to what others' opinions are of Gigabeam's product line (particular microwave PtP). Not having a lot of high capacity PtP experience, I only really worked with Bridgewave (and they seemed to do really well for what I needed), but on some projects that have little to no budget (but needed really fat pipes), Gigabeam seems to be an attractive choice. Recently a friend talked crap about Gigabeam's quality, particularly their bracketing and how difficult it was to align them on towers, but I've heard from others that this is now a non issue. Any advice you have would be appreciated. If you have something flamish, you can send it to me offline, but otherwise I'd be interested in seeing the discussion that others have on the product line. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] IRC channel
Josh Luthman wrote: On Freenode it seems pointless to have #routeros when we have ##mikrotik I joined irc.mvn.net #wispa as well I just tried to connect to this, and it didn't work. Anyone else on here? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] LACP + Wi-Fi = ghettofabulous big wireless pipes?
jree...@18-30chat.net wrote: Yes that will work. I am not sure if the link layer fault detect will work correctly so you might need to run Spanning Tree also. Something that can be a issue is if say you have 4 links and one is running 24mbit modulation and the rest are 54, your going to have issues with the slow link. If possible I would use a radio board that can take all your radios and bond them, presenting you with a single ethernet with the bonded capacity. For what it's worth, I talked to a buddy today who does quite a bit of switching stuff (especially with iSCSI related stuff), and he recommended against running spanning tree. He had some questions on the types of radios that I'd be sending these LACP 802.3ad packets through (to make sure that they passed them through to the switch on the other side), but he said that if all of that was kosher, then he'd just stick with LACP features and avoid adding STP to complicate things. He also recommended using the *dynamic* LACP features, rather than static features, as the static features were really designed for legacy devices and did primitive load balancing like round robin (which could cause problems in the lower modulation scenario that you gave). Thanks for your feedback. If people are interested, I'll post the solution that I find works best for me. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] LACP + Wi-Fi = ghettofabulous big wireless pipes?
I've got several outdoor Wi-Fi radios that I would like to configure in a PtP configuration on multiple 802.11a channels. My question to the list is, Can I use LACP on each end (via a network switch) to aggregate those PtP connections into one virtual connection? e.g. http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk389/tk213/technologies_configuration_example09186a0080094470.shtml So, instead of using ethernet to each switch, I'm connecting an ethernet cable from my switch into the 100 Mbps LIM of the radio node, creating a PtP link across an area, then coming out that other radio's 100 Mbps LIM via ethernet into another LACP-friendly switch. So, on each port, there is something like... switch-ethernet-radio- 5 GHz PtP link-radio-ethernet-switch Any feedback on this? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] DOCSIS resources
Several upcoming large Wi-Fi deployments are going to get their power and egress connection DOCSIS strand, and I unfortunately know very little about that medium. Can anyone recommend me any good resources for getting up to speed, particularly on DOCSIS 3.0? Right now, I'm just looking through the books at Amazon and trying to find the best one to start with http://tinyurl.com/mrgdvl Any other websites or professional associations would be greatly appreciated. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] CVI (and other federal clearances) for various wireless projects
I'm working with ADT on some wireless projects, and in addition to TWIC, they told me I need to get this CVI thing for some of the port projects we're doing http://www.dhs.gov/xprevprot/programs/gc_1185556876884.shtm I'm curious if anyone else here has had to do this for any wireless opportunity. (It's an easy thing to qualify for. Just read through the training [about 30 page clicks], answer like 7 questions, put in your contact info, and you get an email with your CVI number.) On a side note, what other certs / clearances / passes are relevant in the federal space? I'm relatively new to working with the government, and am surprised at these various obstacles, which others seem to take for granted. :b WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] document version control? (e.g. web-based solution to check out KMZ files)
I've got a question that tangentially pertains to wireless stuff, but isn't really related to wireless technology, per se. We sometimes have several people working on KMZ files, and the different versions that we have gets really out of hand, and I'm hoping for a web-based (LAMP?) solution that lets people sort of check out a KMZ file and then incorporate some sort of version control. (This isn't really unique to KMZ files, of course, but could be for any sort of file. It's just that KMZ craziness is killing me more than, say, Word doc or xls craziness.) Any nudge in the right direction would be greatly appreciated! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Cost of 900 MHZ CPE
Forbes Mercy wrote: I am curious if anyone can tell me the technical reason why 900MHZ has no reasonable cost CPE. Here I am paying $70 for CPE on 2.4 gear, $90 for 5.8 but the best price I can find is $290 for 900 MHZ. Just curious as to why? This is a good question, as I have not had to worry about 900 MHz until really recently when I started worrying about integrating with Shotspotter. I know little about the characteristics of the 900 MHz band, but perhaps it's an issue of demand? Based on my experience, this band is used mostly in the public safety sector, so maybe they charge just because they can sorta thing. Anyone else have anything to add here? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] document version control? (e.g. web-based solution to check out KMZ files)
Charles Wyble wrote: KMZ is a binary file format? KMZ is an XML-ish format you use for Google Earth locations, which are insanely handy when planning out wi-fi spots http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyhole_Markup_Language (While reading the wikipedia page just now, I found this interesting tidbit: The name Keyhole is an homage to the KH reconnaissance satellites, the original eye-in-the-sky military reconnaissance system first launched in 1976.) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] document version control? (e.g. web-based solution to check out KMZ files)
Charles Wyble wrote: Well then if it's text, git may be useful. Trac is a good frontend, that I use on a regular basis. Or something more along the lines of sharepoint I really like http://www.knowledgetree.com/ http://www.knowledgetree.com/opensource I've heard great things about KnowedgeTree on other LUG listservs. The only problem with something like Git is easily seeing the differences in the points. Until I do it on different versions, it might be weird trying to decipher tons and tons XML fields into something that's easy on the eyes. I've used Trac in other environments, but if I remember right, Subversion was on the backend, not Git. I'll have to see how that works (or doesn't!) Googling, I see some interesting projects that might bridge that gap http://trac-hacks.org/wiki/TracGitPlugin thx for the feedback, Charles! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] document version control? (e.g. web-based solution to check out KMZ files)
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 9:27 PM, D. Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com wrote: Subversion. ;) Bitch to setup but then easy. Thanks, I'll look into possibly doing that also. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: Cisco 7200 Gigabit Ethernet Cards?
Mike Hammett wrote: Agreed. I don't intend on buying anything Cisco. Over priced, under performing, and their we will screw you whether you like it or not policies. No thanks, someone else, please. One of my clients (a big cable company) just bought hundreds of thousands of dollars of Cisco gear, only to find that it's going to be end of life in just a few months. Their Cisco rep royally screwed them on that one, and when they complained, they got nowhere and have since started to move to other vendors. Another client of mine in the City of San Jose is really careful about buying anything Cisco-related after a big Cisco scandal a few years ago. Apparently they tried to move some Cisco gear at the 11th hour into some big proposal, and it went over like a fart in church when people found out (it was a VoIP install, if I remember right). Now they use Nortel, NOT Cisco. It is my experience that Cisco reps are pretty brazen about their antics. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: Cisco 7200 Gigabit Ethernet Cards?
Travis Johnson wrote: I have about 80 Cisco 2900 and 3500 switches servicing our fiber ring. Most of them are 5+ years old and were purchased used on ebay for $400, and some are older. Some of these have uptimes of over 4 years right now. :) Cisco hardware just works. It's expensive, and the software can be buggy... but the hardware works. A lot depends on the company that originally made the hardware. In some cases, Cisco bought a great hardware manufacturer, in which case that hardware lasted a long time. In other cases, they acquired a crap company, painted Cisco on it, and then kludged in their shell environment. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: Cisco 7200 Gigabit Ethernet Cards?
Charles Wyble wrote: Uh. No. It's not. It's been stated to me by Cisco personnel. To everyone who believes what Cisco has told them, I have some land to sell you in Florida! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: Cisco 7200 Gigabit Ethernet Cards?
Matt Liotta wrote: That is FUD from competing vendors. Or possibly it's FUD from Cisco (my favorite kind of FUD, next to FUD from Microsoft, Red Hat, SCO, and IBM). WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: Cisco 7200 Gigabit Ethernet Cards?
Charles Wyble wrote: That is FUD from competing vendors. Uh. No. It's not. It's been stated to me by Cisco personnel. I've understood the same, Charles. Cisco people have told me (something like), You gotta buy new software and/or SmartNET for that used gear you just got used or donated. I just laughed and said, Now why would I wanna do that, when I can get all the software free from all the CCIEs I know? Needless to say, they were not amused. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Cisco MAR 3200 series end of life?
I've heard here in San Jose that Cisco MAR will soon be end of life. I have yet to confirm, but their webpage does not seem to indicate so. http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/routers/ps272/index.html Can anyone confirm or deny this? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Longterm outlook of Aruba and Proxim?
I'd like to solicit the advice of the wireless community to help me determine whether Proxim or Aruba is the best fit for my friend. As luck would have it, he is very likely have the opportunity to work at once of them (just finished some interviews), but because he is very family-oriented, he is looking for the one has the best long term potential. (My suggestion was Aruba, as they seem to have a better foothold in their niche space than Proxim does. Plus Proxim just got delisted http://biz.yahoo.com/e/090402/prxm8-k.html). About three days after putting his resume on Monster, he got bites from both companies and has already gone through all the technical interviews (which he found extremely easy, as he just passed the CCIE written, and is currently preparing for the CCIE lab practical). Is there anything that anyone has to add about either one of these companies? -r WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] marine interference problem on 2.4 GHz
Jack Unger wrote: I respectfully suggest you hire an expert to address this problem. In light of Jack's comment, I thought I'd share with everyone my non-expert opinion on what the ultimate problem is/was (I was out there last week): --poorly placed radios, --poorly placed antennas, and --some mysterious boat radar Without the s-band interference and the boats, there are definitely some cold spots, but the bands have relatively little interference the vast majority of the time. A radio higher up hits most of the dock, and a radio really high up in certain certain areas gives all boats in the area a fairly okay LOS. (hrping tests at 100ms gave me less than 5% packet loss at like -65 - -70 dBm when the radio was about 1000' feet away high up). Also, you can try to hit the boats from multiple angles, giving the boats a higher chance of having one or more SSIDs to hit when one is blocked. These boats pay anywhere from $6-8/foot, which can amount to $1000-2000 per night. They expect Internet access (many of the boat owners own companies like Monster, Y!, Google, etc) and aren't too forgiving. There have been a few foreign boats that come in and basically excrete on the 2.4 GHz band for everyone. No one knows who it is until the big boat leaves, then all the problems magically go away! Anyway, hope this helps others on the list. I got bad/stupid/incomplete information earlier, hence the general n00b-ish feel to my earlier post. :b If anyone here knows about building stuff on docks in marine environments, I'd love to talk to you and can probably refer you some big clients. (I'll perhaps post that in a different thread) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Wireless visualization
I see Etherape running more often in coffee shops than I do in NOCs. :) On May 24, 2009, at 11:56 AM, Charles Wyble char...@thewybles.com wrote: http://www.ittc.ku.edu/wlan/ Also is anyone using visualization tools in your noc? such as ethereape or http://www.rumint.org/ etc? --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] suggestions on lower end PC appliances?
I'm looking for some sort of small *nix friendly appliance that I can put at the edge of certain wireless mesh networks. That way, I can integrate some open source monitoring tools there and test bandwidth / connectivity. Nothing fancy, just maybe the likes of iperf or Nagios ncsa that can give me some sort of extra visibility at the edge. I've heard good things about the Soekris boards, particularly from guys in the BSD community. The problem is time and finances. I'm not sure that this is the best sort of solution, given those constraints. But it's one option. Another option is just using Cacti's ping latency tool. In the past, I've found that latency is a so-so way of telling how full a given pipe is (not perfect, but better than nothing). I could also, I suppose, configure Cacti to poll each node to give me a reading, but that is likely too detailed (but maybe necessary for certain nodes that prove to be difficult). If I had a place to rack a box remotely at these various sites, then I could use a lower end PC. Unfortunately, however, I'm likely going to limited to some sort of enclosure, hence the reason I'm looking at lower end appliances. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] wireshark for finding unknown IPs
For what it's worth, Wireshark has been a lifesaver for me when I have to go out in the field and get an unknown IP address of certain types of units, particularly ones without easy-to-access console ports. (Sometimes this is my only option, as the unit is in production, ARP broadcasts are on a different subnet and thus not viewable on tcpdump, and I know the password.) HTH WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] wireshark for finding unknown IPs
With Wireshark, yes With tcpdump, not from what I can tell On May 10, 2009, at 12:58 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Is there a way to hear ALL the traffic, including those brocasts on a different subnet? What if your laptop IP is on a different scheme or none at all? On 5/10/09, Rogelio scubac...@gmail.com wrote: For what it's worth, Wireshark has been a lifesaver for me when I have to go out in the field and get an unknown IP address of certain types of units, particularly ones without easy-to-access console ports. (Sometimes this is my only option, as the unit is in production, ARP broadcasts are on a different subnet and thus not viewable on tcpdump, and I know the password.) HTH --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Handling Non-paying Subs
Chuck Hogg wrote: I've got a few non-paying subs, that we would like to get payment on. It has reached over $1k from 4 subs over the past 6 months. Do you just cut your losses and move on or what do you do? I'm contemplating small claims court as it should be an open and shut case, but it's $91 in fees per person. We've done the collection letter and it hasn't worked. How about something more creative, like this? http://www.ex-parrot.com/pete/upside-down-ternet.html WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] marine interference problem on 2.4 GHz
Jack Unger wrote: I respectfully suggest you hire an expert to address this problem. That's the most polite way I've been told that my idea for a solution sucks! I suppose that until I find an expert, Google is my friend. :) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Crude dictionary attack via ssh
Tom Sharples wrote: It's a flavor of Slack Linux. Don't have Python on these boxes so am writing a bash script to do essentially the same thing as DenyHosts. You run iptables on this box? You might have some options there, as well. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Crude dictionary attack via ssh
Tom Sharples wrote: It's a flavor of Slack Linux. Don't have Python on these boxes so am writing a bash script to do essentially the same thing as DenyHosts. Here's an idea that might work too, assuming you have iptables on that box http://www.e18.physik.tu-muenchen.de/~tnagel/ipt_recent/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Free Radius Servers
3-dB Networks wrote: Anyone have any recommendations for a free Radius server? Specifically interested in credit card processing for a hotspot application. Which OS? Is this a pay for internet access thing? e.g. People are authenticated after they pay for access? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] marine interference problem on 2.4 GHz
I've got an interesting interference problem in a marine area, and I was hoping to get some feedback on it. Every week or so, something evil on 2.4 GHz comes through and drastically raises the noise floor for about a day (an analysis showed me like -50 dBm), thus knocking off everyone in the boat dock area who is using that AP. I was thinking about the following type of solution and wanted to get some feedback: --on each dock (9 total), have two dual radios --mesh them on an available 5.8 GHz channel (this band is not currently a problem) --put in a 2.4 GHz panel antenna on each end (maybe a 19 dBi one that gives, say, a 30 degree X 30 degree beam coverage). 7 dBm + 19 dBi = 36 dBm EIRP for ISM band in U.S. --have panels on each radio pointing in towards the middle dock area (boats in the middle would have redundant coverage. Boats on the far edge would likely only be covered by the distant AP) --cover each dock with two channels, so if one channel is down, another one is an option (or possibly the same channel on a different polarization) --possibly use band filters (assuming I know which band is the problem child) Any help would be greatly appreciated. I'm quite new to figuring out RF problems like this. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Crude dictionary attack via ssh
Josh Luthman wrote: Install DenyHosts and those go away. ditto http://denyhosts.sourceforge.net/ http://denyhosts.sourceforge.net/faq.html http://www.howtoforge.com/preventing_ssh_dictionary_attacks_with_denyhosts DenyHosts is a script intended to be run by Linux system administrators to help thwart SSH server attacks (also known as dictionary based attacks and brute force attacks). If you've ever looked at your ssh log (/var/log/secure on Redhat, /var/log/auth.log on Mandrake, etc...) you may be alarmed to see how many hackers attempted to gain access to your server. Hopefully, none of them were successful (but then again, how would you know?). Wouldn't it be better to automatically prevent that attacker from continuing to gain entry into your system? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Crude dictionary attack via ssh
Tom Sharples wrote: Spotted this a few minutes ago on one of our back-end servers. Didn't work, but worth noting. Which OS are you running? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] affordable 2.4 GHz repeaters
I've got a situation where I need some lower end affordable 2.4 GHz repeaters, and the itch can't really be scratched with a customer CPE device (such as a Ruckus or Tranzeo). Anyone have any 2.4 GHz repeaters that they can recommend? There won't be many people connecting in that area, so I'm not really worried about collision. Ideally, this might be something I'd put outside. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] wifi-based communication devices
A resort I'm working with would like to cut down on walkie talkies and use wifi instead. Does anyone have any recommendations? I've seen Vocera, but I think that's a bit more than what they need. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] room jack switch / AP
Have any of you guys used those wall plates that are both a switch and an access point? I heard that Colubrius (now HP) makes a good line, although I haven't used them. I've seen the 3comm ones, but haven't implemented them yet. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] billing system to integrate with wi-fi
A coworker is looking at this solution to possibly be a billing system at a fair http://www.allcity-wireless.com/ Has anyone played with it? Or can they recommend something with these types of features? Simple Plug Play Network Deployment Built in network services: RADIUS, DNS, DHCP, Syslog, FTP Multiple SSID support Security Suite built in Automated daily system backups for emergency recovery User Experience Features Up sell network access based on time and/or bandwidth Walled Garden Support Capture and Redirect MAC address based authentication Credit Card Processing / Common Payment Gateways Site Branding User self registration support Built in Advertisement Revenue Features Captive Audience Ad Inserts User Timeout for Advertisement based WiFi sales model Built in Web Server and Ad Server Web usage logging Built in Advertisement Revenue Features Integrated Network Monitoring with WiFi Mesh Graphs WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fwd: Fiber cut in SF area
Gino Villarini wrote: Someone should be using this example in a way to push wireless as a 2nd option for bup and redundancy If I remember right, they had redundant fiber there already. I also remember something about the person doing it knowing that and cutting both sides of the ring. Agreed, though -- secondary wireless connections would be a good backup in these sorts of situations, particularly when temperaments of union members have been high. I was actually in Cupertino when it happened (on Apple's campus), and I noticed a blip in my iPhone's data services at that time. I never knew what it was until I said something to my friend at Apple, and he had just heard the news. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Time Warner Tests $150-Per-Month Unlimited Internet
On a somewhat related note, does anyone here use open source packet shaping solutions? I've only used Packeteer in production (enterprise environment), but I'm always on the lookout for good other solutions. Right now, I'm using BSD-based pfSense at home, and that seems to be working great. Others I know are just using OpenBSD proper and just putting it in transparent mode. I'd love to know what others find most appropriate for their environments, particularly in WISP sort of environments. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 10 GigE
Jon Auer wrote: http://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog Also join Cisco-NSP if you are interested in Cisco gear: http://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp And the Outages list occasionally informative: https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/outages Ditto on both lists. I've been on them both for a few months now and have found them very helpful. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Dumb question?
Gino Villarini wrote:p Easy, the current Wimax MAC (802.16d and e) was designed for licensed frequencies, noise is not well handled by the protocol I'll have to admit believing some of the WiMAX hype until I heard this fact several months ago. The only people I see taking WiMAX seriously are service providers and carriers, particularly those who want to preserve their spectrum. They don't have to worry about competing noise because of their sole license. In many of these cases, they are buying the equipment for little more than to preserve the right to do what they want on that frequency. Is this what others are seeing also? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] 5.9 GHz ITS
Has anyone here implemented the 5.9 GHz band for ITS (Intelligent Transportation Services)? I'm looking at some projects that might be a good fit and have recently started researching vendors that do it, as well as some of the regulatory characteristics of the band. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] STP for redundancy on two panels horiz/vert oriented?
Using a dual 5.8 GHz radio solution, could I conceivably give myself some sort of redundancy by doing the following: --two 23 dBi panels, one on each radio --on panel for horizontal orientation; the other, for vertical --put a switch on both sides that supports spanning tree I have LOS between these radios, and I'm assuming that it would be rare to have both polarizations go out at the same time. Does this sound conceivable? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 10 GigE
Travis Johnson wrote: Ya... I'm not sure an X86 based system is going to handle 10 GigE x 4 you are probably looking at Cisco, etc. where the switching can happen in dedicated hardware rather than software. I'd take a serious look at Juniper. e.g. http://www.juniper.net/us/en/products-services/routing/ All the hard core routing and switching experts I know laugh when someone suggests Cisco. Cisco is like the WalMart of networking equipment. If you need something, chances are that they have something there that will mostly do what it is that you need. But if you need something for some specialized need, then chances are you need to go to Juniper, Foundry, Nortel, etc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] getting up to speed on various PtP microwave solutions
Charles Wu wrote: Attached is an article that gives Licensed Backhaul 101 Overview that was written several years ago in Broadband Wireless Magazine -- obviously, pricing for licensed links have fallen dramatically...but the concepts are still the same Thanks, this is helpful also. I like the way it breaks it down into 6-11 GHz, 18-23 GHz, 24 GHz, and 39 GHz solutions. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] economics of backhaul
I found this URL on the economics of backhaul while surfing for microwave resources. http://www.exaltcom.com/landing.aspx?id=422 Nothing earth shattering, but a good read for those getting their feet wet (like me) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] getting up to speed on various PtP microwave solutions
Charles Wu wrote: What specifically are you looking for? The only difference from micro/milli-meter wave (e.g., 10+ GHz) and standard unlicensed wireless is rain fade Do you want an explanation on that? Thanks, Charles. I'm fairly up-to-speed on that. Once I knew a little bit about it, I googled and read up on what it is and which vendors had solutions to prevent against it. I guess at this point I don't know what I don't know (if that makes sense). I work on the Wi-Fi mesh portion and often rely on these PtP vendors to transport data back to a datacenters and find myself believing whatever they say on the topic because I'm not really sure what's up. I've developed a relationship with the Bridgewave guys and have been impressed with them. At this point, I'm basically a one trick Bridgewave pony and am hoping to change that. :) Thanks for your response! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] getting up to speed on various PtP microwave solutions
I've just recently started becoming familiar with the various microwave e band PtP solutions (Bridgewave, Dragonwave, Gigabeam, Loea, Trango, Proxim, etc). Before this, I knew nothing about things like rain fade or the various characteristics of bands in that range. Does anyone know of any good tutorials for this sort of thing? In other words, say I have a project with various high capacity PtP requirements and need to find the right technology and vendor. Any suggestions on where I'd go to start? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] tower cert question
A friend is considering getting his tower certification, and it's something I've been considering also. I googled tower certification, but couldn't find the cert(s) that one would need to get to safely/legally do so. Any pointers? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] 11n CPE?
Are there 802.11n CPE devices? (I haven't seen any) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 11n CPE?
tonyl...@demarctech.com wrote: Rogelio We will have one ready very soon, are you looking for 2.4Ghz or 5Ghz? Very cool. Most likely 5 GHz 802.11a. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 11n CPE?
Mike Hammett wrote: A or N? :-p I'd like 11n (both 2.4/5), but if I had to pick one or the other, 11a is probably what we'll go with. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Using Tranzeo as CPE for rural community
I'm looking into setting up wi-fi for rural county (using stimulus dollars) and am now looking for CPE devices to put on each rooftop. A past coworker told me that he's heard good things about Tranzeo, and I was wondering what others here on the list thought about them as a vendor. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
