[WISPA] Help with VMWare

[Tom Fadgen]

 I have 3 VMWare servers and I lost my administrator and I need 
someone to help with administration. I am currently having performance 
issues with one of the servers and need help now.Please hit me 
offlist.

Tom Fadgen
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Re: [WISPA] help with kubuntu and Dude

[Brian Wilson]

It should not be expanding the tilde with incorrect casing, that's odd. I'd
try putting the full path in instead of the tilde notation

On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 10:10 AM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:

>  I would make a symlink from /Home to /home and see if that fixes it.
>
> Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
> SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com
>  On 09/08/2014 08:52 AM, Sam wrote:
>
> At first guess I'd say it's looking for /Home/ but you have it in /home/
>
> (Linux is case-sensitive on file and directory names.)
>
> On 9/5/2014 19:37, J. Van Kort wrote:
>
>  running kubuntu 14.04LTS
> cannot get Dude to run in root mode.  Having issue with the proper
> command line syntax.
>
> Dude is installed at: /home/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Dude/dude.exe
>
> Attempted command line entry: kdesudo wine ~/.wine/drive_c/Program
> Files/Dude/dude.exe &
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> generates an error.  #2758  Cannot find /Home/.
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Re: [WISPA] help with kubuntu and Dude

[Josh Reynolds]

I would make a symlink from /Home to /home and see if that fixes it.

Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com 

On 09/08/2014 08:52 AM, Sam wrote:

At first guess I'd say it's looking for /Home/ but you have it in /home/

(Linux is case-sensitive on file and directory names.)

On 9/5/2014 19:37, J. Van Kort wrote:

running kubuntu 14.04LTS
cannot get Dude to run in root mode.  Having issue with the proper
command line syntax.

Dude is installed at: /home/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Dude/dude.exe

Attempted command line entry: kdesudo wine ~/.wine/drive_c/Program
Files/Dude/dude.exe &

generates an error.  #2758  Cannot find /Home/.
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Re: [WISPA] help with kubuntu and Dude

[Sam]

At first guess I'd say it's looking for /Home/ but you have it in /home/

(Linux is case-sensitive on file and directory names.)

On 9/5/2014 19:37, J. Van Kort wrote:
> running kubuntu 14.04LTS
> cannot get Dude to run in root mode.  Having issue with the proper
> command line syntax.
>
> Dude is installed at: /home/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Dude/dude.exe
>
> Attempted command line entry: kdesudo wine ~/.wine/drive_c/Program
> Files/Dude/dude.exe &
>
> generates an error.  #2758  Cannot find /Home/.
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Re: [WISPA] help with kubuntu and Dude

[Tim Densmore]

  
  
It doesn't appear that you're escaping the space in "Program Files"
- try:
kdesudo wine ~/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/Dude/dude.exe &

Post full error otherwise.


On 09/05/2014 07:23 PM, Scott Lambert
  wrote:

why are you trying to run a windows app with root
  privileges?
  
  it might help to know what the "..." was. it might not.
  
  On September 5, 2014 7:37:36 PM CDT, "J.
Van Kort"  wrote:

  running kubuntu 14.04LTS
cannot get Dude to run in root mode.  Having issue with the proper 
command line syntax.

Dude is installed at: /home/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Dude/dude.exe

Attempted command line entry: kdesudo wine ~/.wine/drive_c/Program 
Files/Dude/dude.exe &

generates an error.  #2758  Cannot find /Home/.

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Re: [WISPA] help with kubuntu and Dude

[Scott Lambert]

why are you trying to run a windows app with root privileges?

it might help to know what the "..." was.  it might not.

On September 5, 2014 7:37:36 PM CDT, "J. Van Kort"  
wrote:
>running kubuntu 14.04LTS
>cannot get Dude to run in root mode.  Having issue with the proper 
>command line syntax.
>
>Dude is installed at: /home/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Dude/dude.exe
>
>Attempted command line entry: kdesudo wine ~/.wine/drive_c/Program 
>Files/Dude/dude.exe &
>
>generates an error.  #2758  Cannot find /Home/.
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[WISPA] help with kubuntu and Dude

[J. Van Kort]

running kubuntu 14.04LTS
cannot get Dude to run in root mode.  Having issue with the proper 
command line syntax.

Dude is installed at: /home/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Dude/dude.exe

Attempted command line entry: kdesudo wine ~/.wine/drive_c/Program 
Files/Dude/dude.exe &

generates an error.  #2758  Cannot find /Home/.
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[WISPA] Help Wanted, Badly....

[Sam]

Hi Everyone!

The company for which I work (Union Pacific Railroad) is looking to fill 
several positions in several different areas of expertise in many areas 
around the USA. In particular, we really need Java 
developers/programmers. The requirements are:

A Bachelor Degree in Computer Science, Computer Engineering,
Management Information Systems or related field, or a minimum of six 
years application development experience.

3+ years of solid Java hands on development experience.

Willingness to support 24x7 operations of mission critical systems.

Qualify on the Berger Aptitude for Programming (BAPT-Adv) Test.

Union Pacific is an outstanding company for which to work. Compensation 
and benefits are among the industry leaders. If you're a Java programmer 
(beginner to expert) you owe it to yourself to look into this. You can 
apply or find out more information at https://up.jobs/job/opening/072767

I have one additional post I'll be making immediately following this 
post with some additional needs.

I really hope that perhaps some of these positions will be beneficial to 
either some of you, some of your family members, or some of your friends.

Thanks,
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Re: [WISPA] Help Me Understand This WiMax Show We Had...

[Sam]

Thanks to everyone who replied to my question. This was a good learning 
experience for me from you all.

Thank you again,
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Re: [WISPA] Help Me Understand This WiMax Show We Had...

[Paolo Di Francesco]

Hi Sam

we have some operators in Italy using WiMAX in licensed and unlicensed. 
In licensed it works well, in unlicensed it woks "not so well"

I have heard some marketing guy saying things like "it works till 20 
miles and it gives you a lot of bandwidth" which is technically wrong 
but it's a good commercial "white lie". the reality is "it works 
till 20 miles OR it gives you a lot of bandwidth" meaning that yes you 
can do 20miles but at lower efficiencies (=bandwidth) or you can have 
high bandwidth if you have near customers with a good signal.
WiMAX does not do miracles

Lately I have heard that some WISP/operators are "abandoning" WiMAX and 
moving to LTE or dual stack WiMAX/LTE because frequencies are usually 
"technology independent" and LTE seems more supported by some vendors 
and the new marketing magic word.

The problem is that devices are really expensive so you must have some 
really good reason to convince the customer to buy that thing or you 
must be sure that the customer will never abandon you.  So the WiMAX is 
not working in the WISP unlicensed business because if you have clean 
channels you can give the same service with unlicensed 5Ghz and at lower 
prices.

Indeed for the unlicensed market there are two options:

1) the channels are empty/clean and you can do whatever you want even 
with a 5Ghz device
2) the channels are dirty/noisy and WiMAX does not work well there

Regards


> Today we had a company come to us pushing wimax. Admittedly I've never
> used wimax, nor do I know a lot about it. From what I can see looking at
> Google images of the technology and how it's deployed, it looks no
> different than the PtP and PtMP that we all use with 900 MHz, or 2.4 and
> 5.x GHz.
>
> Is the only advantage to wimax the presumably clearer and less-used
> frequencies upon which they operate? I had (evidently mistakenly)
> thought that perhaps wimax was a code word for some sort of mesh, and
> that's how it achieved NLOS service. However in looking at the network
> layouts on Google, it doesn't look like that at all. Rather, it looks
> like that add another AP to get around the obstruction(s), and simply
> backhaul it to an intermediary AP/tower to get it back to the PoP.
>
> Thanks
> Sam
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Re: [WISPA] Help Me Understand This WiMax Show We Had...

[Matt Corcoran]

Wimax
-GPS Sync: needed for good frequency reuse

-Automatic transmit power control: so that CPEs only transmit at minimum
necessary level instead of blasting all the time into the adjacent cells.

-uplink sub-channelization!   Think of it like this:  Rather than a CPE
transmitting across the whole say 10mhz channel.  2 CPEs could each be
transmitting using half the available subcarriers like Two 5mhz channels
or 5 2mhz channels which dramatically increases uplink non-line of site
penetration.  Sma

-MIMOA and MIMOB, A is more important for non line of site.



Use one of many 5ghz vendors for LineOfSite Customers.
Use wimax for non-lineOfSite customers.








On 3/27/14, 4:08 PM, "Justin Wilson"  wrote:

>   As stated earlier Wimax is frequency independent.  Wimax is also 
> referred
>to as 802.16x.  Last I knew they were up to revisionE, but I could be
>wrong.  Wimax is the ³generic term² for 802.16 just like wifi is the
>generic term for 802.11.  Wimax allows 8 bits per hertz no matter the
>frequency used. 3.65 Wimax is the common frequency available to the normal
>WISP operator.
>
>Some Reading:
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WiMAX
>
>http://compnetworking.about.com/od/wirelessinternet/g/bldef_wimax.htm
>
>
>
>
>
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>From: Sam 
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>Date: Thursday, March 27, 2014 at 3:25 PM
>To: 
>Subject: [WISPA] Help Me Understand This WiMax Show We Had...
>
>>Today we had a company come to us pushing wimax. Admittedly I've never
>>used wimax, nor do I know a lot about it. From what I can see looking at
>>Google images of the technology and how it's deployed, it looks no
>>different than the PtP and PtMP that we all use with 900 MHz, or 2.4 and
>>5.x GHz.
>>
>>Is the only advantage to wimax the presumably clearer and less-used
>>frequencies upon which they operate? I had (evidently mistakenly)
>>thought that perhaps wimax was a code word for some sort of mesh, and
>>that's how it achieved NLOS service. However in looking at the network
>>layouts on Google, it doesn't look like that at all. Rather, it looks
>>like that add another AP to get around the obstruction(s), and simply
>>backhaul it to an intermediary AP/tower to get it back to the PoP.
>>
>>Thanks
>>Sam
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Re: [WISPA] Help Me Understand This WiMax Show We Had...

[Patrick Leary]

Somethings are not a matter of belief, they are either demonstratably true or 
not.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 27, 2014, at 14:39, "Mike Hammett" 
mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net>> wrote:

haha, yeah, I know someone bought PureWave, but I think they're just doing a 
DBA PureWave.



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From: "Chris Fabien" mailto:ch...@lakenetmi.com>>
To: "WISPA General List" mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 4:37:55 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Help Me Understand This WiMax Show We Had...


Purewave also falls under "whatever their name is now" ...

On Mar 27, 2014 5:13 PM, "Mike Hammett" 
mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
PureWave, RunCom, Alvarion (well, whatever their name is now), the 
Aperto\Tranzeo guys, AirSpan was the first for the full 50 MHz, etc.



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From: "Josh Reynolds" mailto:j...@spitwspots.com>>
To: wireless@wispa.org<mailto:wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 2:51:51 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Help Me Understand This WiMax Show We Had...

Yeah, I had heard canopy/cambium was doing other stuff. What are the other 
companies using though?

Josh Reynolds
Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS
j...@spitwspots.com<mailto:j...@spitwspots.com> | www.spitwspots.com
On 03/27/2014 11:42 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:

Wimax on the pmp320 and others is 3.65

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mar 27, 2014 2:36 PM, "Josh Reynolds" 
mailto:j...@spitwspots.com>> wrote:
Different frequencies (2.5 in the US, 2.3 in Asia, 3.3 and 3.5GHz in other 
areas)
5bps/Hz vs 2.7bps/Hz on 802.11-stuff
smart antenna systems
on the fly bandwidth and channel changes
channel bandwidths of things like 1.25MHz - 20MHz
hybrid automatic repeat-request (HARQ - 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybrid_automatic_repeat-request)
etc.

It's a different animal. It's very expensive though, and I've heard some pretty 
outrageous claims from it that I just don't believe.


Josh Reynolds
Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS
j...@spitwspots.com<mailto:j...@spitwspots.com> | 
www.spitwspots.com<http://www.spitwspots.com>
On 03/27/2014 11:25 AM, Sam wrote:

Today we had a company come to us pushing wimax. Admittedly I've never
used wimax, nor do I know a lot about it. From what I can see looking at
Google images of the technology and how it's deployed, it looks no
different than the PtP and PtMP that we all use with 900 MHz, or 2.4 and
5.x GHz.

Is the only advantage to wimax the presumably clearer and less-used
frequencies upon which they operate? I had (evidently mistakenly)
thought that perhaps wimax was a code word for some sort of mesh, and
that's how it achieved NLOS service. However in looking at the network
layouts on Google, it doesn't look like that at all. Rather, it looks
like that add another AP to get around the obstruction(s), and simply
backhaul it to an intermediary AP/tower to get it back to the PoP.

Thanks
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Re: [WISPA] Help Me Understand This WiMax Show We Had...

[Mike Hammett]

haha, yeah, I know someone bought PureWave, but I think they're just doing a 
DBA PureWave. 




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- Original Message -

From: "Chris Fabien"  
To: "WISPA General List"  
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 4:37:55 PM 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Help Me Understand This WiMax Show We Had... 


Purewave also falls under "whatever their name is now" ... 
On Mar 27, 2014 5:13 PM, "Mike Hammett" < wispawirel...@ics-il.net > wrote: 




PureWave, RunCom, Alvarion (well, whatever their name is now), the 
Aperto\Tranzeo guys, AirSpan was the first for the full 50 MHz, etc. 




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From: "Josh Reynolds"  
To: wireless@wispa.org 
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 2:51:51 PM 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Help Me Understand This WiMax Show We Had... 


Yeah, I had heard canopy/cambium was doing other stuff. What are the other 
companies using though? 



Josh Reynolds 
Chief Information Officer 
SPITwSPOTS 
j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com 
On 03/27/2014 11:42 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: 



Wimax on the pmp320 and others is 3.65 
Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 
On Mar 27, 2014 2:36 PM, "Josh Reynolds" < j...@spitwspots.com > wrote: 




Different frequencies (2.5 in the US, 2.3 in Asia, 3.3 and 3.5GHz in other 
areas) 
5bps/Hz vs 2.7bps/Hz on 802.11-stuff 
smart antenna systems 
on the fly bandwidth and channel changes 
channel bandwidths of things like 1.25MHz - 20MHz 
hybrid automatic repeat-request (HARQ - 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybrid_automatic_repeat-request ) 
etc. 

It's a different animal. It's very expensive though, and I've heard some pretty 
outrageous claims from it that I just don't believe. 




Josh Reynolds 
Chief Information Officer 
SPITwSPOTS 
j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com 
On 03/27/2014 11:25 AM, Sam wrote: 


Today we had a company come to us pushing wimax. Admittedly I've never 
used wimax, nor do I know a lot about it. From what I can see looking at 
Google images of the technology and how it's deployed, it looks no 
different than the PtP and PtMP that we all use with 900 MHz, or 2.4 and 
5.x GHz.

Is the only advantage to wimax the presumably clearer and less-used 
frequencies upon which they operate? I had (evidently mistakenly) 
thought that perhaps wimax was a code word for some sort of mesh, and 
that's how it achieved NLOS service. However in looking at the network 
layouts on Google, it doesn't look like that at all. Rather, it looks 
like that add another AP to get around the obstruction(s), and simply 
backhaul it to an intermediary AP/tower to get it back to the PoP.

Thanks
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Re: [WISPA] Help Me Understand This WiMax Show We Had...

[Chris Fabien]

Purewave also falls under "whatever their name is now" ...
On Mar 27, 2014 5:13 PM, "Mike Hammett"  wrote:

> PureWave, RunCom, Alvarion (well, whatever their name is now), the
> Aperto\Tranzeo guys, AirSpan was the first for the full 50 MHz, etc.
>
>
>
> -
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> *To: *wireless@wispa.org
> *Sent: *Thursday, March 27, 2014 2:51:51 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Help Me Understand This WiMax Show We Had...
>
> Yeah, I had heard canopy/cambium was doing other stuff. What are the other
> companies using though?
>
>  *Josh Reynolds*
> Chief Information Officer
> SPITwSPOTS
> j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com
>   On 03/27/2014 11:42 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>
> Wimax on the pmp320 and others is 3.65
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Mar 27, 2014 2:36 PM, "Josh Reynolds"  wrote:
>
>>  Different frequencies (2.5 in the US, 2.3 in Asia, 3.3 and 3.5GHz in
>> other areas)
>> 5bps/Hz vs 2.7bps/Hz on 802.11-stuff
>> smart antenna systems
>> on the fly bandwidth and channel changes
>> channel bandwidths of things like 1.25MHz - 20MHz
>> hybrid automatic repeat-request (HARQ -
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybrid_automatic_repeat-request)
>> etc.
>>
>> It's a different animal. It's very expensive though, and I've heard some
>> pretty outrageous claims from it that I just don't believe.
>>
>>
>>  *Josh Reynolds*
>> Chief Information Officer
>> SPITwSPOTS
>> j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com
>>   On 03/27/2014 11:25 AM, Sam wrote:
>>
>> Today we had a company come to us pushing wimax. Admittedly I've never
>> used wimax, nor do I know a lot about it. From what I can see looking at
>> Google images of the technology and how it's deployed, it looks no
>> different than the PtP and PtMP that we all use with 900 MHz, or 2.4 and
>> 5.x GHz.
>>
>> Is the only advantage to wimax the presumably clearer and less-used
>> frequencies upon which they operate? I had (evidently mistakenly)
>> thought that perhaps wimax was a code word for some sort of mesh, and
>> that's how it achieved NLOS service. However in looking at the network
>> layouts on Google, it doesn't look like that at all. Rather, it looks
>> like that add another AP to get around the obstruction(s), and simply
>> backhaul it to an intermediary AP/tower to get it back to the PoP.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Sam
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Re: [WISPA] Help Me Understand This WiMax Show We Had...

[Mike Hammett]

PureWave, RunCom, Alvarion (well, whatever their name is now), the 
Aperto\Tranzeo guys, AirSpan was the first for the full 50 MHz, etc. 




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- Original Message -

From: "Josh Reynolds"  
To: wireless@wispa.org 
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 2:51:51 PM 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Help Me Understand This WiMax Show We Had... 


Yeah, I had heard canopy/cambium was doing other stuff. What are the other 
companies using though? 



Josh Reynolds 
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j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com 
On 03/27/2014 11:42 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: 



Wimax on the pmp320 and others is 3.65 
Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 
On Mar 27, 2014 2:36 PM, "Josh Reynolds" < j...@spitwspots.com > wrote: 




Different frequencies (2.5 in the US, 2.3 in Asia, 3.3 and 3.5GHz in other 
areas) 
5bps/Hz vs 2.7bps/Hz on 802.11-stuff 
smart antenna systems 
on the fly bandwidth and channel changes 
channel bandwidths of things like 1.25MHz - 20MHz 
hybrid automatic repeat-request (HARQ - 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybrid_automatic_repeat-request ) 
etc. 

It's a different animal. It's very expensive though, and I've heard some pretty 
outrageous claims from it that I just don't believe. 




Josh Reynolds 
Chief Information Officer 
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j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com 
On 03/27/2014 11:25 AM, Sam wrote: 


Today we had a company come to us pushing wimax. Admittedly I've never 
used wimax, nor do I know a lot about it. From what I can see looking at 
Google images of the technology and how it's deployed, it looks no 
different than the PtP and PtMP that we all use with 900 MHz, or 2.4 and 
5.x GHz.

Is the only advantage to wimax the presumably clearer and less-used 
frequencies upon which they operate? I had (evidently mistakenly) 
thought that perhaps wimax was a code word for some sort of mesh, and 
that's how it achieved NLOS service. However in looking at the network 
layouts on Google, it doesn't look like that at all. Rather, it looks 
like that add another AP to get around the obstruction(s), and simply 
backhaul it to an intermediary AP/tower to get it back to the PoP.

Thanks
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Re: [WISPA] Help Me Understand This WiMax Show We Had...

[Josh Reynolds]

http://resources.wimaxforum.org/sites/wimaxforum.org/files/document_library/wimax_hspa+and_lte_111809_final.pdf

wikipedia

other sources

All are saying 5bps/Hz for DL efficiency, 2.5bps/Hz for upload

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On 03/27/2014 12:08 PM, Justin Wilson wrote:

As stated earlier Wimax is frequency independent.  Wimax is also 
referred
to as 802.16x.  Last I knew they were up to revisionE, but I could be
wrong.  Wimax is the ³generic term² for 802.16 just like wifi is the
generic term for 802.11.  Wimax allows 8 bits per hertz no matter the
frequency used. 3.65 Wimax is the common frequency available to the normal
WISP operator.

Some Reading:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WiMAX

http://compnetworking.about.com/od/wirelessinternet/g/bldef_wimax.htm





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Date: Thursday, March 27, 2014 at 3:25 PM
To: 
Subject: [WISPA] Help Me Understand This WiMax Show We Had...


Today we had a company come to us pushing wimax. Admittedly I've never
used wimax, nor do I know a lot about it. From what I can see looking at
Google images of the technology and how it's deployed, it looks no
different than the PtP and PtMP that we all use with 900 MHz, or 2.4 and
5.x GHz.

Is the only advantage to wimax the presumably clearer and less-used
frequencies upon which they operate? I had (evidently mistakenly)
thought that perhaps wimax was a code word for some sort of mesh, and
that's how it achieved NLOS service. However in looking at the network
layouts on Google, it doesn't look like that at all. Rather, it looks
like that add another AP to get around the obstruction(s), and simply
backhaul it to an intermediary AP/tower to get it back to the PoP.

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Re: [WISPA] Help Me Understand This WiMax Show We Had...

[Justin Wilson]

As stated earlier Wimax is frequency independent.  Wimax is also 
referred
to as 802.16x.  Last I knew they were up to revisionE, but I could be
wrong.  Wimax is the ³generic term² for 802.16 just like wifi is the
generic term for 802.11.  Wimax allows 8 bits per hertz no matter the
frequency used. 3.65 Wimax is the common frequency available to the normal
WISP operator.

Some Reading:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WiMAX

http://compnetworking.about.com/od/wirelessinternet/g/bldef_wimax.htm





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From: Sam 
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Date: Thursday, March 27, 2014 at 3:25 PM
To: 
Subject: [WISPA] Help Me Understand This WiMax Show We Had...

>Today we had a company come to us pushing wimax. Admittedly I've never
>used wimax, nor do I know a lot about it. From what I can see looking at
>Google images of the technology and how it's deployed, it looks no
>different than the PtP and PtMP that we all use with 900 MHz, or 2.4 and
>5.x GHz.
>
>Is the only advantage to wimax the presumably clearer and less-used
>frequencies upon which they operate? I had (evidently mistakenly)
>thought that perhaps wimax was a code word for some sort of mesh, and
>that's how it achieved NLOS service. However in looking at the network
>layouts on Google, it doesn't look like that at all. Rather, it looks
>like that add another AP to get around the obstruction(s), and simply
>backhaul it to an intermediary AP/tower to get it back to the PoP.
>
>Thanks
>Sam
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Re: [WISPA] Help Me Understand This WiMax Show We Had...

[Josh Reynolds]

Yeah, I had heard canopy/cambium was doing other stuff. What are the 
other companies using though?


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On 03/27/2014 11:42 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:


Wimax on the pmp320 and others is 3.65

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mar 27, 2014 2:36 PM, "Josh Reynolds" > wrote:


Different frequencies (2.5 in the US, 2.3 in Asia, 3.3 and 3.5GHz
in other areas)
5bps/Hz vs 2.7bps/Hz on 802.11-stuff
smart antenna systems
on the fly bandwidth and channel changes
channel bandwidths of things like 1.25MHz - 20MHz
hybrid automatic repeat-request (HARQ -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybrid_automatic_repeat-request)
etc.

It's a different animal. It's very expensive though, and I've
heard some pretty outrageous claims from it that I just don't believe.


*Josh Reynolds*
Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS
j...@spitwspots.com  |
www.spitwspots.com 

On 03/27/2014 11:25 AM, Sam wrote:

Today we had a company come to us pushing wimax. Admittedly I've never
used wimax, nor do I know a lot about it. From what I can see looking at
Google images of the technology and how it's deployed, it looks no
different than the PtP and PtMP that we all use with 900 MHz, or 2.4 and
5.x GHz.

Is the only advantage to wimax the presumably clearer and less-used
frequencies upon which they operate? I had (evidently mistakenly)
thought that perhaps wimax was a code word for some sort of mesh, and
that's how it achieved NLOS service. However in looking at the network
layouts on Google, it doesn't look like that at all. Rather, it looks
like that add another AP to get around the obstruction(s), and simply
backhaul it to an intermediary AP/tower to get it back to the PoP.

Thanks
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Re: [WISPA] Help Me Understand This WiMax Show We Had...

[Chris Fabien]

Thought I should add, the wimax protocol is independent from the frequency
band used. 3.65ghz is commonly used for wimax by WISPs in this country due
to the light licensing, but equipment is available to run wimax in 5.8,
3.65, 3.5, 2.3/2.5, 900, 700 that I'm aware of.  There is also non-wimax
equipment that will operate in all of those bands as well.


On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Chris Fabien  wrote:

> It's not as different or complicated as you think. Basically it's a
> standard protocol that was designed for ptmp broadband access. It's a
> standard, so in theory different operators equipment will talk to each
> other unlike most of the popular WISP products that have drifted toward
> proprietary protocols. The protocol is rather sophisticated and has some
> "tricks" that help it have better success in nLOS situations than a
> wifi-based protocol or canopy. The main downside from a performance
> standpoint is higher latency due to how the scheduling works.
>
> Your statement about adding another AP to get around obstructions is not
> quite right, what you might be looking at is a base station that uses
> antenna diversity to increase signal gain for nlos situations. Basically
> multiple receive antennas on the same base station giving it ability to
> hear the CPE better.
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 3:25 PM, Sam  wrote:
>
>> Today we had a company come to us pushing wimax. Admittedly I've never
>> used wimax, nor do I know a lot about it. From what I can see looking at
>> Google images of the technology and how it's deployed, it looks no
>> different than the PtP and PtMP that we all use with 900 MHz, or 2.4 and
>> 5.x GHz.
>>
>> Is the only advantage to wimax the presumably clearer and less-used
>> frequencies upon which they operate? I had (evidently mistakenly)
>> thought that perhaps wimax was a code word for some sort of mesh, and
>> that's how it achieved NLOS service. However in looking at the network
>> layouts on Google, it doesn't look like that at all. Rather, it looks
>> like that add another AP to get around the obstruction(s), and simply
>> backhaul it to an intermediary AP/tower to get it back to the PoP.
>>
>> Thanks
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Re: [WISPA] Help Me Understand This WiMax Show We Had...

[Josh Luthman]

Wimax on the pmp320 and others is 3.65

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mar 27, 2014 2:36 PM, "Josh Reynolds"  wrote:

>  Different frequencies (2.5 in the US, 2.3 in Asia, 3.3 and 3.5GHz in
> other areas)
> 5bps/Hz vs 2.7bps/Hz on 802.11-stuff
> smart antenna systems
> on the fly bandwidth and channel changes
> channel bandwidths of things like 1.25MHz - 20MHz
> hybrid automatic repeat-request (HARQ -
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybrid_automatic_repeat-request)
> etc.
>
> It's a different animal. It's very expensive though, and I've heard some
> pretty outrageous claims from it that I just don't believe.
>
>
>  *Josh Reynolds*
> Chief Information Officer
> SPITwSPOTS
> j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com
>   On 03/27/2014 11:25 AM, Sam wrote:
>
> Today we had a company come to us pushing wimax. Admittedly I've never
> used wimax, nor do I know a lot about it. From what I can see looking at
> Google images of the technology and how it's deployed, it looks no
> different than the PtP and PtMP that we all use with 900 MHz, or 2.4 and
> 5.x GHz.
>
> Is the only advantage to wimax the presumably clearer and less-used
> frequencies upon which they operate? I had (evidently mistakenly)
> thought that perhaps wimax was a code word for some sort of mesh, and
> that's how it achieved NLOS service. However in looking at the network
> layouts on Google, it doesn't look like that at all. Rather, it looks
> like that add another AP to get around the obstruction(s), and simply
> backhaul it to an intermediary AP/tower to get it back to the PoP.
>
> Thanks
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Re: [WISPA] Help Me Understand This WiMax Show We Had...

[Chris Fabien]

It's not as different or complicated as you think. Basically it's a
standard protocol that was designed for ptmp broadband access. It's a
standard, so in theory different operators equipment will talk to each
other unlike most of the popular WISP products that have drifted toward
proprietary protocols. The protocol is rather sophisticated and has some
"tricks" that help it have better success in nLOS situations than a
wifi-based protocol or canopy. The main downside from a performance
standpoint is higher latency due to how the scheduling works.

Your statement about adding another AP to get around obstructions is not
quite right, what you might be looking at is a base station that uses
antenna diversity to increase signal gain for nlos situations. Basically
multiple receive antennas on the same base station giving it ability to
hear the CPE better.


On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 3:25 PM, Sam  wrote:

> Today we had a company come to us pushing wimax. Admittedly I've never
> used wimax, nor do I know a lot about it. From what I can see looking at
> Google images of the technology and how it's deployed, it looks no
> different than the PtP and PtMP that we all use with 900 MHz, or 2.4 and
> 5.x GHz.
>
> Is the only advantage to wimax the presumably clearer and less-used
> frequencies upon which they operate? I had (evidently mistakenly)
> thought that perhaps wimax was a code word for some sort of mesh, and
> that's how it achieved NLOS service. However in looking at the network
> layouts on Google, it doesn't look like that at all. Rather, it looks
> like that add another AP to get around the obstruction(s), and simply
> backhaul it to an intermediary AP/tower to get it back to the PoP.
>
> Thanks
> Sam
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Re: [WISPA] Help Me Understand This WiMax Show We Had...

[Josh Reynolds]

Different frequencies (2.5 in the US, 2.3 in Asia, 3.3 and 3.5GHz in 
other areas)

5bps/Hz vs 2.7bps/Hz on 802.11-stuff
smart antenna systems
on the fly bandwidth and channel changes
channel bandwidths of things like 1.25MHz - 20MHz
hybrid automatic repeat-request (HARQ - 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybrid_automatic_repeat-request)

etc.

It's a different animal. It's very expensive though, and I've heard some 
pretty outrageous claims from it that I just don't believe.



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j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com

On 03/27/2014 11:25 AM, Sam wrote:

Today we had a company come to us pushing wimax. Admittedly I've never
used wimax, nor do I know a lot about it. From what I can see looking at
Google images of the technology and how it's deployed, it looks no
different than the PtP and PtMP that we all use with 900 MHz, or 2.4 and
5.x GHz.

Is the only advantage to wimax the presumably clearer and less-used
frequencies upon which they operate? I had (evidently mistakenly)
thought that perhaps wimax was a code word for some sort of mesh, and
that's how it achieved NLOS service. However in looking at the network
layouts on Google, it doesn't look like that at all. Rather, it looks
like that add another AP to get around the obstruction(s), and simply
backhaul it to an intermediary AP/tower to get it back to the PoP.

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[WISPA] Help Me Understand This WiMax Show We Had...

[Sam]

Today we had a company come to us pushing wimax. Admittedly I've never 
used wimax, nor do I know a lot about it. From what I can see looking at 
Google images of the technology and how it's deployed, it looks no 
different than the PtP and PtMP that we all use with 900 MHz, or 2.4 and 
5.x GHz.

Is the only advantage to wimax the presumably clearer and less-used 
frequencies upon which they operate? I had (evidently mistakenly) 
thought that perhaps wimax was a code word for some sort of mesh, and 
that's how it achieved NLOS service. However in looking at the network 
layouts on Google, it doesn't look like that at all. Rather, it looks 
like that add another AP to get around the obstruction(s), and simply 
backhaul it to an intermediary AP/tower to get it back to the PoP.

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Re: [WISPA] Help identifying this shackle

[Bob Moldashel]

Well... Two sets of guys wires is not correct either.  This tower should 
have at least 4 levels of guy wire, not 2.


Amazingly 25G is extremely resilient to falling.  There are several 
videos on the web of guys dropping these towers and they continue to 
stand after all the guys are cut.


Sounds like you have a tower that was installed in the "just wing it" 
format. That's alot of 25/45/55G towers..


Good luck with that one...

-B-



On 9/16/2013 3:22 PM, LaRoy McCann wrote:
I had never seen anything like this until this tower installation 
about 15 years ago.
I thought the bolt was bent the first time I saw it but I really think 
they are made that way.
The tower is 190' with 2 sets of guys, and inner and an outer set and 
all 6 shackles are this way.


A couple of years ago I ran across this same shackle somewhere on the 
internet and that is when I realized they are made this way.

I wanted to find it again just to read up about it.

I have to replace 3 turnbuckles at one anchor point due to someone 
hitting it with a bushhog.
I really don't know how the tower is still standing.  All guy wires 
have so much slack you can swing them in circles like a jump rope.


I guess Rohn 25 towers are really strong, this one is almost free 
standing :).



On 9/16/2013 2:01 PM, Chris Fabien wrote:
It's not supposed to be curved, it has bent under load. It's not the 
right part for the application. You could use an equalizer plate or 
since you already have an anchor with space for 3 guy wires, just use 
a short piece of guy wire to connect each turnbuckle to the anchor.



On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Sam Tetherow > wrote:


Not sure if the block should be curved like that. I would look at
getting an equalizer plate if possible.  If this is a rohn, check
http://www.3starinc.com/rohn_tower_guy_and_anchor.html


On 09/16/2013 01:32 PM, LaRoy McCann wrote:

Can anyone identify this shackle?
I think I have seen it before on the internet but can't find it
now.






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Re: [WISPA] Help identifying this shackle

[Cameron Crum]

Why not use a load spreader instead?


On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 1:32 PM, LaRoy McCann  wrote:

> Can anyone identify this shackle?
> I think I have seen it before on the internet but can't find it now.
>
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Re: [WISPA] Help identifying this shackle

[LaRoy McCann]

I did not make myself clear about the guy wires.  There are 6 total sets 
of guy wires on the tower.  The bottom 3 sets are at around 50-70' from 
the tower and the top 3 sets of guy wires are at a much greater distance 
from the tower.


I am with you about the way it should have been done vs the way it was done.

The "good" turnbuckles do have a loop of cable thru them to keep them 
from turning and the one set that got hit used to have a loop.


It will require some TLC to get back in shape but I have see worse.

LaRoy

On 9/16/2013 2:38 PM, Bob Moldashel wrote:


Well... Two sets of guys wires is not correct either.  This tower 
should have at least 4 levels of guy wire, not 2.


Amazingly 25G is extremely resilient to falling.  There are several 
videos on the web of guys dropping these towers and they continue to 
stand after all the guys are cut.


Sounds like you have a tower that was installed in the "just wing it" 
format. That's alot of 25/45/55G towers..


Good luck with that one...

-B-



On 9/16/2013 3:22 PM, LaRoy McCann wrote:
I had never seen anything like this until this tower installation 
about 15 years ago.
I thought the bolt was bent the first time I saw it but I really 
think they are made that way.
The tower is 190' with 2 sets of guys, and inner and an outer set and 
all 6 shackles are this way.


A couple of years ago I ran across this same shackle somewhere on the 
internet and that is when I realized they are made this way.

I wanted to find it again just to read up about it.

I have to replace 3 turnbuckles at one anchor point due to someone 
hitting it with a bushhog.
I really don't know how the tower is still standing.  All guy wires 
have so much slack you can swing them in circles like a jump rope.


I guess Rohn 25 towers are really strong, this one is almost free 
standing :).



On 9/16/2013 2:01 PM, Chris Fabien wrote:
It's not supposed to be curved, it has bent under load. It's not the 
right part for the application. You could use an equalizer plate or 
since you already have an anchor with space for 3 guy wires, just 
use a short piece of guy wire to connect each turnbuckle to the anchor.



On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Sam Tetherow > wrote:


Not sure if the block should be curved like that.  I would look
at getting an equalizer plate if possible.  If this is a rohn,
check http://www.3starinc.com/rohn_tower_guy_and_anchor.html


On 09/16/2013 01:32 PM, LaRoy McCann wrote:

Can anyone identify this shackle?
I think I have seen it before on the internet but can't find it
now.






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Re: [WISPA] Help identifying this shackle

[Chris Fabien]

It's not supposed to be curved, it has bent under load. It's not the right
part for the application. You could use an equalizer plate or since you
already have an anchor with space for 3 guy wires, just use a short piece
of guy wire to connect each turnbuckle to the anchor.


On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Sam Tetherow  wrote:

>  Not sure if the block should be curved like that.  I would look at
> getting an equalizer plate if possible.  If this is a rohn, check
> http://www.3starinc.com/rohn_tower_guy_and_anchor.html
>
>
> On 09/16/2013 01:32 PM, LaRoy McCann wrote:
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> Can anyone identify this shackle?
> I think I have seen it before on the internet but can't find it now.
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Re: [WISPA] Help identifying this shackle

[LaRoy McCann]

I had never seen anything like this until this tower installation about 
15 years ago.
I thought the bolt was bent the first time I saw it but I really think 
they are made that way.
The tower is 190' with 2 sets of guys, and inner and an outer set and 
all 6 shackles are this way.


A couple of years ago I ran across this same shackle somewhere on the 
internet and that is when I realized they are made this way.

I wanted to find it again just to read up about it.

I have to replace 3 turnbuckles at one anchor point due to someone 
hitting it with a bushhog.
I really don't know how the tower is still standing.  All guy wires have 
so much slack you can swing them in circles like a jump rope.


I guess Rohn 25 towers are really strong, this one is almost free 
standing :).



On 9/16/2013 2:01 PM, Chris Fabien wrote:
It's not supposed to be curved, it has bent under load. It's not the 
right part for the application. You could use an equalizer plate or 
since you already have an anchor with space for 3 guy wires, just use 
a short piece of guy wire to connect each turnbuckle to the anchor.



On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Sam Tetherow > wrote:


Not sure if the block should be curved like that.  I would look at
getting an equalizer plate if possible. If this is a rohn, check
http://www.3starinc.com/rohn_tower_guy_and_anchor.html


On 09/16/2013 01:32 PM, LaRoy McCann wrote:

Can anyone identify this shackle?
I think I have seen it before on the internet but can't find it now.






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Re: [WISPA] Help identifying this shackle

[Bob Moldashel]

LaRoy,

This is obviously the wrong part for the application. I personally would 
be more concerned about the depth and proper construction of the 
anchorage point.


The correct way would have been a leg anchor with a dispersion plate at 
the end.  The turnbuckles should have been eye & bolt style with the 
blot ends mounted through the plates. Too late for that now


With what you have in place I would just replace the shackle with 
another with a much greater load rating.  Without knowing the tower 
model, height, loading and physical location its only a guess.  But 
watch out.  There is a ton of cheap Chinese crap on the market that, 
while rated for a certain load, has failed under much less 
considerations.  Spend the money and get shackles from Crosby. They 
don't play games.


The turnbuckles should also have security ties in place to prevent the 
turnbuckle from being adjusted and in case the TB should fail.


I also wonder what the guy strand is coming out of the anchor point.

Scarey

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Re: [WISPA] Help identifying this shackle

[Scott Reed]

From the bend in the bolt, that is the right answer, I think.

On 9/16/2013 2:36 PM, Cameron Crum wrote:

Why not use a load spreader instead?


On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 1:32 PM, LaRoy McCann > wrote:


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Re: [WISPA] Help identifying this shackle

[Sam Tetherow]

Not sure if the block should be curved like that.  I would look at 
getting an equalizer plate if possible.  If this is a rohn, check 
http://www.3starinc.com/rohn_tower_guy_and_anchor.html


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Re: [WISPA] Help with old SAF installation

[Olufemi Adalemo]

Thanks guys,
I'll register right away

BR,

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On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 2:25 AM, Daniel White
wrote:

>  Olufemi,
>
> ** **
>
> I’m not sure many people on this list will be able to assist you with CFM…
> that product was never sold in North America.  I can’t help you either…
> I’ve personally never worked on them.
>
> ** **
>
> Installation manuals:
>
> ** **
>
> https://www.saftehnika.com/upload/File/Siebel/ODU_IM_EN.pdf
>
> https://www.saftehnika.com/upload/File/Siebel/Splitter_IM_EN.pdf
>
> https://www.saftehnika.com/upload/File/Siebel/CFM-FODU_TD_EN_V%201%207.pdf
> 
>
> ** **
>
> I’d strongly recommend creating an account on our website, that way you
> can access more information (all of the current CFM documentation is still
> on our website, but you must login first to see it).
>
> ** **
>
> If you still have questions or need support I recommend reaching out to
> our tech support team techsupp...@saftehnika.com
>
> ** **
>
> We are still building and repairing CFM radios if it does come to that.***
> *
>
> ** **
>
> Good luck!
>
> ** **
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> [image: cid:image001.jpg@01CE2975.BD4B6370]
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> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Olufemi Adalemo
> *Sent:* Monday, May 13, 2013 6:41 PM
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>
> ** **
>
> I have a relatively old SAF CFM FR34 FODU installation at a client site
> that has somehow become my problem and can't seem to find a proper user
> manual online, can anyone help, also likely that the radio doesn't have the
> default IP or password, is there a way to reset these radios without losing
> the frequency setting?
>
> ** **
>
> It seems that the management port on the POE/ODU doesn't work on these
> units and you have to manage them via the data interface, is this correct?
> 
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks for your help,
> 
>
> - - -
>
> *Olufemi Adalemo*
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Re: [WISPA] Help with old SAF installation

[Daniel White]

Olufemi,

I'm not sure many people on this list will be able to assist you with CFM... 
that product was never sold in North America.  I can't help you either... I've 
personally never worked on them.

Installation manuals:

https://www.saftehnika.com/upload/File/Siebel/ODU_IM_EN.pdf
https://www.saftehnika.com/upload/File/Siebel/Splitter_IM_EN.pdf
https://www.saftehnika.com/upload/File/Siebel/CFM-FODU_TD_EN_V%201%207.pdf

I'd strongly recommend creating an account on our website, that way you can 
access more information (all of the current CFM documentation is still on our 
website, but you must login first to see it).

If you still have questions or need support I recommend reaching out to our 
tech support team techsupp...@saftehnika.com<mailto:techsupp...@saftehnika.com>

We are still building and repairing CFM radios if it does come to that.

Good luck!

[cid:image001.jpg@01CE2975.BD4B6370]

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Of Olufemi Adalemo
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 6:41 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] Help with old SAF installation

I have a relatively old SAF CFM FR34 FODU installation at a client site that 
has somehow become my problem and can't seem to find a proper user manual 
online, can anyone help, also likely that the radio doesn't have the default IP 
or password, is there a way to reset these radios without losing the frequency 
setting?

It seems that the management port on the POE/ODU doesn't work on these units 
and you have to manage them via the data interface, is this correct?

Thanks for your help,
- - -
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Re: [WISPA] Help with old SAF installation

[Josh Luthman]

Ask support?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
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On May 13, 2013 6:41 PM, "Olufemi Adalemo"  wrote:

> I have a relatively old SAF CFM FR34 FODU installation at a client site
> that has somehow become my problem and can't seem to find a proper user
> manual online, can anyone help, also likely that the radio doesn't have the
> default IP or password, is there a way to reset these radios without losing
> the frequency setting?
>
> It seems that the management port on the POE/ODU doesn't work on these
> units and you have to manage them via the data interface, is this correct?
>
> Thanks for your help,
> - - -
> *Olufemi Adalemo*
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> M: +234-809-8610040
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[WISPA] Help with old SAF installation

[Olufemi Adalemo]

I have a relatively old SAF CFM FR34 FODU installation at a client site
that has somehow become my problem and can't seem to find a proper user
manual online, can anyone help, also likely that the radio doesn't have the
default IP or password, is there a way to reset these radios without losing
the frequency setting?

It seems that the management port on the POE/ODU doesn't work on these
units and you have to manage them via the data interface, is this correct?

Thanks for your help,
- - -
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Re: [WISPA] Help coming up with company name....

[Chuck Profito]

+1  for Wi-Eye  


skynet-terminator-assault.jpg 


Wi-Eye


SkyEye


Skynet 


Skynet Alive 


Skynet Comes Alive 


 


 


 

 

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Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 10:04 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Help coming up with company name

 

Wi-Eye ... =))

 

Victoria Proffer

STLWiMAX, LLC <http://www.stlwimax.com/> 

314-720-1000

 

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Behalf Of Zach Mann
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 11:20 AM
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Subject: [WISPA] Help coming up with company name

 

Brainstorm time, 

 

Do any of you have suggestions for a company name, obviously involving
wireless, networks, surveillance etc ?  Trying to come up with a good name.
Open to any suggestions.

 

Thanks in advance

 

-Zach 

 

 

 

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Re: [WISPA] Help coming up with company name....

[Sam Tetherow]

Same here, I don't get it quite as much, but we use to get a lot of 
people calling for cellular service.

On 05/10/2012 08:45 PM, can...@believewireless.net wrote:
> Personally I'd avoid wireless in the name and use networks or broadband.
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> GuarNet - Guardian Networks
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Re: [WISPA] Help coming up with company name....

[Zach Mann]

I agree.  Thanks for suggestions.
On May 10, 2012 8:45 PM, "can...@believewireless.net" <
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Re: [WISPA] Help coming up with company name....

[can...@believewireless.net]

Personally I'd avoid wireless in the name and use networks or broadband.

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Re: [WISPA] Help coming up with company name....

[Forbes Mercy]

I came up with Wireless Guardians but Victoria's is really catchy!

Forbes

On 5/10/2012 10:04 AM, Victoria Proffer wrote:


Wi-Eye ... =))

Victoria Proffer

STLWiMAX, LLC <http://www.stlwimax.com/>

314-720-1000

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*On Behalf Of *Zach Mann

*Sent:* Thursday, May 10, 2012 11:20 AM
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*Subject:* [WISPA] Help coming up with company name

Brainstorm time,

Do any of you have suggestions for a company name, obviously involving 
wireless, networks, surveillance etc ?  Trying to come up with a good 
name.  Open to any suggestions.


Thanks in advance

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Re: [WISPA] Help coming up with company name....

[timothy steele]

Secure Wireless Solutions ?

need to know more info like what state you are in and if its a rural
service or for a City

On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Dylan Bouterse wrote:

> DO IT. Wireless.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ra70O9nps6E
>
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>
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> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Randy Cosby
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>
> ** **
>
> WNS?
>
> WNSNet?
>
> Anything more creative would deplete needed brain cells.
>
> 
>
> On 5/10/2012 10:19 AM, Zach Mann wrote:
>
> Brainstorm time,  
>
> ** **
>
> Do any of you have suggestions for a company name, obviously involving
> wireless, networks, surveillance etc ?  Trying to come up with a good name.
>  Open to any suggestions.
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> ** **
>
> -Zach 
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Re: [WISPA] Help coming up with company name....

[Dylan Bouterse]

DO IT. Wireless.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ra70O9nps6E

Dylan

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WNS?

WNSNet?

Anything more creative would deplete needed brain cells.

On 5/10/2012 10:19 AM, Zach Mann wrote:
Brainstorm time,

Do any of you have suggestions for a company name, obviously involving 
wireless, networks, surveillance etc ?  Trying to come up with a good name.  
Open to any suggestions.

Thanks in advance

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Re: [WISPA] Help coming up with company name....

[Victoria Proffer]

Wi-Eye ... =))

 

Victoria Proffer

STLWiMAX, LLC <http://www.stlwimax.com/> 

314-720-1000

 

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Behalf Of Zach Mann
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 11:20 AM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Help coming up with company name

 

Brainstorm time, 

 

Do any of you have suggestions for a company name, obviously involving
wireless, networks, surveillance etc ?  Trying to come up with a good name.
Open to any suggestions.

 

Thanks in advance

 

-Zach 

 

 

 

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Re: [WISPA] Help coming up with company name....

[Rick Harnish]

Zach,

 

I responded offlist.

 

 <http://www.wispa.org/where-there-is-a-wisp-there-is-a-way> Where there is
a Wisp, there is a way!

 

Respectfully,

 

Rick Harnish

Executive Director

WISPA

260-307-4000 cell

866-317-2851 Option 2 WISPA Office

Skype: rick.harnish.

rharn...@wispa.org

adm...@wispa.org (Trina and Rick)

 

 

 

 

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Behalf Of Zach Mann
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 12:20 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Help coming up with company name

 

Brainstorm time, 

 

Do any of you have suggestions for a company name, obviously involving
wireless, networks, surveillance etc ?  Trying to come up with a good name.
Open to any suggestions.

 

Thanks in advance

 

-Zach 

 

 

 

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Re: [WISPA] Help coming up with company name....

[Louis Arsenault]

Mann Wireless
The Mann Wireless
Your Mann Wireless

Brainstorm Wireless

On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 12:19 PM, Zach Mann  wrote:
> Brainstorm time,
>
> Do any of you have suggestions for a company name, obviously involving
> wireless, networks, surveillance etc ?  Trying to come up with a good name.
>  Open to any suggestions.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> -Zach
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Re: [WISPA] Help coming up with company name....

[Randy Cosby]

WNS?

WNSNet?

Anything more creative would deplete needed brain cells.


On 5/10/2012 10:19 AM, Zach Mann wrote:

Brainstorm time,

Do any of you have suggestions for a company name, obviously involving 
wireless, networks, surveillance etc ?  Trying to come up with a good 
name.  Open to any suggestions.


Thanks in advance

-Zach





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[WISPA] Help coming up with company name....

[Zach Mann]

Brainstorm time,

Do any of you have suggestions for a company name, obviously involving
wireless, networks, surveillance etc ?  Trying to come up with a good name.
 Open to any suggestions.

Thanks in advance

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[WISPA] Help for New Pekin, Indiana

[Jeff Broadwick - Lists]

Hi All,

One of our customers (Telemedia Solutions) is located in one of the hardest
hit areas hit by the tornados in southern Indiana.  They are all fine, but a
number of people in their community have lost everything.

I asked Charlie how I might donate to these folks and he gave me the church
below that has set up a fund.  Then I thought that Wispa folks might be
interested in helping too, thus my email.

I spoke to the church.  They don't have anything up on their website yet,
but they told me that 100% of whatever is taken in will go to help these
people.  They are collecting to get a couple of cars (theirs were lost)
along with things like tarps, bedding, etc. 

Here is the contact info if you'd like to help.  At this point, you'll need
to mail a check.

Suzy Calloway
Bunker Hill Christian Church
11233 E State Road 160, Salem, IN 47167 
812-967-2341
solidr...@mymail.coop
www.bunkerhillchristianchurch.net

They are going to try to put some info on the website tonight, but as you
can imagine, they are trying to help people first.

Regards,

Jeff


Jeff Broadwick
Sales Manager, Blue Technology
800-813-5123 x106 (US/Can)
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[WISPA] Help Wanted: Wireless Infrastructure Technician

[Billy Williams]

Hello,

 

Not sure if it's appropriate to post help wanted stuff on the list, but
I'm looking for a "tower guy".  Basically someone to take care of the
day-to-day tasks and maintenance of our wireless network infrastructure.
New tower site installations, troubleshooting issues on existing stuff,
etc.  We have several full time installers who take care of
installations and repairs at subscriber locations.  If anyone knows of
someone who fits the bill, please pass on the info and send 'em my way.
Here is what I'm posting to local job listings:

 

Wireless Infrastructure Technician job description:

 

Maintenance of CTI's wireless network infrastructure for our wireless
Internet service.  Installation and maintenance of wireless equipment at
POP sites including communication towers, grain elevators, water towers,
etc.  Must be willing and able to climb those sites to heights of 300'
or more.  Previous Wireless Internet experience required or at least a
background in radio frequency communications.  Company provides cell
phone, vehicle, tools, and safety gear.

 

Tasks include (but not limited to) configuration and installation of
equipment, antennas, and cabling at new tower sites and upgrading
existing ones.  Troubleshooting issues at existing tower sites, such as
lightning, water, interference, traffic, virus, and bad equipment
issues.  Installation and troubleshooting of customer premise equipment
at customer's locations.

 

Compensation - Pay up to $20/hour based on experience.  Paid health
insurance for employee.   Paid vacation and holidays.  Simple IRA
retirement contributions matched to 3%.  Schedule M-F 8-5 plus on-call
for tower outages.

 

Email resume and references to employm...@ctiwireless.com.

 

 

Billy J. Williams, President

Computer Techniques, Inc.

1100 Sportsman Drive

Taylorville, IL. 62568

(217) 824-6398

 




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Re: [WISPA] Help...Freeside malfuction

[Josh Luthman]

No knowledge of Freeside but try looking in the database and change some
values.

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Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
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Troy, OH 45373

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On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Ryan Ghering  wrote:

> Anyone that uses freeside, does anyone know of a way to MASS unsuspend
> customers?
> system FUBARD last night and I've got a few thousand suspended accounts
> right now..
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[WISPA] Help...Freeside malfuction

[Ryan Ghering]

Anyone that uses freeside, does anyone know of a way to MASS unsuspend
customers?
system FUBARD last night and I've got a few thousand suspended accounts
right now..

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Re: [WISPA] HELP!!! (resolved)

[Marlon K. Schafer]

It's great to be a part of an industry where people pull together like this.  
I'm proud to be a part of it.  And proud of all of you!

Also, how's the guy that got hurt?  Do they know how that's going to turn out 
yet?

laters,
marlon

  - Original Message - 
  From: Brian Rohrbacher 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 4:37 AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] HELP!!! (resolved)


  Thanks for all the responses.  I have to give a big shout out to CTI and Jeff 
Ehman.
  I didn't end up ordering part from CTI this time but Jeff saw my post and 
went out of his way to drive over a half hour to Pac's warehouse.  He flagged 
someone down through a window and checked on my order status.  Luckily, it had 
shipped out.  So I will have all replacement parts Saturday.   But, wow.  
Thanks Jeff.  Go CTI!!  Hutton, Allcom PC, Pac, and Defacto Wireless were also 
all able to get overnight Saturday delivery orders out with only hours notice, 
so thanks to them as well.

  Brian




Oh, forgot..  Be careful stacking that steel with only a one day cure
unless you're using a good mix!  We don't need another accident!  



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 6:09 PM
To: Conversations over a new WISP Trade Organization
Subject: [WISPA] HELP!!!

Help, I had a tower go down.  My whole network is down since yesterday.  
We are putting up a 170ft tower.  Pouring hot concrete tomorrow morning 
and looking to stack the steel monday and be back up and running.  I 
have all replacement gear for Saturday delivery but the stuff from pac 
wireless.  I can't get them on the phone to see if it went out.  If not, 
I have two options.  I have a friend in Chicago right now for a wedding, 
he can bring the stuff back or I'll drive 6 hrs and do it myself.  I 
need an after hrs contact of someone at pac who can get stuff done.  I 
need them to tell me if items were shipped or let me in the shop to pick 
them up.  I am limited on email.  Please call me and if I don't answer 
leave message.  I need contact info for pac please!  Also, pray for the 
guy that rode the elevater leg to the ground.  It's been 36 hrs and he's 
still alive.  Links to video and story.

http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/central_mich/Faulty_weld_caused_silo_ac
cident

http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/central_mich/silo_accident
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Re: [WISPA] HELP!!! (resolved)

[Brian Rohrbacher]

Thanks for all the responses.  I have to give a big shout out to CTI
and Jeff Ehman.
I didn't end up ordering part from CTI this time but Jeff saw my
post and went out of his way to drive over a half hour to Pac's
warehouse.  He flagged someone down through a window and checked on my
order status.  Luckily, it had shipped out.  So I will have all
replacement parts Saturday.   But, wow.  Thanks Jeff.  Go CTI!! 
Hutton, Allcom PC, Pac, and Defacto Wireless were also all able to get
overnight Saturday delivery orders out with only hours notice, so
thanks to them as well.

Brian




  Oh, forgot..  Be careful stacking that steel with only a one day cure
unless you're using a good mix!  We don't need another accident!  



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 6:09 PM
To: Conversations over a new WISP Trade Organization
Subject: [WISPA] HELP!!!

Help, I had a tower go down.  My whole network is down since yesterday.  
We are putting up a 170ft tower.  Pouring hot concrete tomorrow morning 
and looking to stack the steel monday and be back up and running.  I 
have all replacement gear for Saturday delivery but the stuff from pac 
wireless.  I can't get them on the phone to see if it went out.  If not, 
I have two options.  I have a friend in Chicago right now for a wedding, 
he can bring the stuff back or I'll drive 6 hrs and do it myself.  I 
need an after hrs contact of someone at pac who can get stuff done.  I 
need them to tell me if items were shipped or let me in the shop to pick 
them up.  I am limited on email.  Please call me and if I don't answer 
leave message.  I need contact info for pac please!  Also, pray for the 
guy that rode the elevater leg to the ground.  It's been 36 hrs and he's 
still alive.  Links to video and story.

http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/central_mich/Faulty_weld_caused_silo_ac
cident

http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/central_mich/silo_accident
'
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Re: [WISPA] HELP!!!

[Josh Luthman]

Roc Noc just west of Chicago came through for me on a Saturday.  Not sure
what it is you need exactly.  Thanks again, Tom!!!

Good luck and be safe.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

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On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 6:29 PM, Robert West wrote:

> Oh, forgot..  Be careful stacking that steel with only a one day cure
> unless you're using a good mix!  We don't need another accident!
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher
> Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 6:09 PM
> To: Conversations over a new WISP Trade Organization
> Subject: [WISPA] HELP!!!
>
> Help, I had a tower go down.  My whole network is down since yesterday.
> We are putting up a 170ft tower.  Pouring hot concrete tomorrow morning
> and looking to stack the steel monday and be back up and running.  I
> have all replacement gear for Saturday delivery but the stuff from pac
> wireless.  I can't get them on the phone to see if it went out.  If not,
> I have two options.  I have a friend in Chicago right now for a wedding,
> he can bring the stuff back or I'll drive 6 hrs and do it myself.  I
> need an after hrs contact of someone at pac who can get stuff done.  I
> need them to tell me if items were shipped or let me in the shop to pick
> them up.  I am limited on email.  Please call me and if I don't answer
> leave message.  I need contact info for pac please!  Also, pray for the
> guy that rode the elevater leg to the ground.  It's been 36 hrs and he's
> still alive.  Links to video and story.
>
>
> http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/central_mich/Faulty_weld_caused_silo_ac
> cident
>
> http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/central_mich/silo_accident
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Re: [WISPA] HELP!!!

[Robert West]

Oh, forgot..  Be careful stacking that steel with only a one day cure
unless you're using a good mix!  We don't need another accident!  



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 6:09 PM
To: Conversations over a new WISP Trade Organization
Subject: [WISPA] HELP!!!

Help, I had a tower go down.  My whole network is down since yesterday.  
We are putting up a 170ft tower.  Pouring hot concrete tomorrow morning 
and looking to stack the steel monday and be back up and running.  I 
have all replacement gear for Saturday delivery but the stuff from pac 
wireless.  I can't get them on the phone to see if it went out.  If not, 
I have two options.  I have a friend in Chicago right now for a wedding, 
he can bring the stuff back or I'll drive 6 hrs and do it myself.  I 
need an after hrs contact of someone at pac who can get stuff done.  I 
need them to tell me if items were shipped or let me in the shop to pick 
them up.  I am limited on email.  Please call me and if I don't answer 
leave message.  I need contact info for pac please!  Also, pray for the 
guy that rode the elevater leg to the ground.  It's been 36 hrs and he's 
still alive.  Links to video and story.

http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/central_mich/Faulty_weld_caused_silo_ac
cident

http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/central_mich/silo_accident
'
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Re: [WISPA] HELP!!!

[Robert West]

Brian,

Are you talking about Pac Wireless proper or a Pac Wireless distributor?

What equipment are you lacking?  Maybe someone here can help fill the
equipment holes if it doesn't show up.

I watched that video, shsh!  I have one really wobbly grain leg I use
that is only half that high, I can't imagine what was going through that
guy's head with it was falling.  

Good luck to him, to be sure.

Bob-


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 6:09 PM
To: Conversations over a new WISP Trade Organization
Subject: [WISPA] HELP!!!

Help, I had a tower go down.  My whole network is down since yesterday.  
We are putting up a 170ft tower.  Pouring hot concrete tomorrow morning 
and looking to stack the steel monday and be back up and running.  I 
have all replacement gear for Saturday delivery but the stuff from pac 
wireless.  I can't get them on the phone to see if it went out.  If not, 
I have two options.  I have a friend in Chicago right now for a wedding, 
he can bring the stuff back or I'll drive 6 hrs and do it myself.  I 
need an after hrs contact of someone at pac who can get stuff done.  I 
need them to tell me if items were shipped or let me in the shop to pick 
them up.  I am limited on email.  Please call me and if I don't answer 
leave message.  I need contact info for pac please!  Also, pray for the 
guy that rode the elevater leg to the ground.  It's been 36 hrs and he's 
still alive.  Links to video and story.

http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/central_mich/Faulty_weld_caused_silo_ac
cident

http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/central_mich/silo_accident
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[WISPA] HELP!!!

[Brian Rohrbacher]

Help, I had a tower go down.  My whole network is down since yesterday.  
We are putting up a 170ft tower.  Pouring hot concrete tomorrow morning 
and looking to stack the steel monday and be back up and running.  I 
have all replacement gear for Saturday delivery but the stuff from pac 
wireless.  I can't get them on the phone to see if it went out.  If not, 
I have two options.  I have a friend in Chicago right now for a wedding, 
he can bring the stuff back or I'll drive 6 hrs and do it myself.  I 
need an after hrs contact of someone at pac who can get stuff done.  I 
need them to tell me if items were shipped or let me in the shop to pick 
them up.  I am limited on email.  Please call me and if I don't answer 
leave message.  I need contact info for pac please!  Also, pray for the 
guy that rode the elevater leg to the ground.  It's been 36 hrs and he's 
still alive.  Links to video and story.

http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/central_mich/Faulty_weld_caused_silo_accident

http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/central_mich/silo_accident
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Re: [WISPA] HELP !

[John Scrivner]

We want to publicly thank Robert at BPS ffor helping us yesterday. He even
drove part way to us to cut the drive time down so we could restore service
quicker. What a guy! We may want to buy a couple of spare CCUs from others
out there so if you have the old Waverider CCUs (or new ones for that
matter) then email me offlist please and let me know quantity and price for
those.
Thank you,
John Scrivner


On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 12:32 PM, John Scrivner  wrote:

> I need a Waverider CCU today if possible. Lightning damage and our spare
> one is not working. Will drive to you to get it. Old or new model CCU will
> work. Call me asap 618-237-2387.
> Thank you,
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[John Scrivner]

I need a Waverider CCU today if possible. Lightning damage and our spare one
is not working. Will drive to you to get it. Old or new model CCU will work.
Call me asap 618-237-2387.
Thank you,
John Scrivner



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Re: [WISPA] help! replacement MT based 5.8G system connects, but no ping!

[rabbtux rabbtux]

Solved: Help replacement MT ... no ping

Many thanks to all who tossed out suggestions!

The situation:
Had a 5.8G backhaul link with MT-CM9 on one end, and old pebble linux
system on the other.  Rebooted the pebble system yesterday afternoon
and its AP radio was no longer detected, thus creating the urgency for
my 'ready to go' replacement MT based system.

I had the replacement system Associate and saw excellent signal
strength.  No ping from MT to MT system?  When I disabled the
encryption on the new system, there was no association, so I assumed
the encryption was good.  Another odd thing.  The new system would
only associate at 1M, even when I moved things closer together.  1M
and -60db signal strength is very odd.

Solution:
Apparently when I entered the static Key in the security profiles, I
missed the box on the left, for the type of key.  It was of type
"none"  instead of 40-bit wep, 104-bit wep, or AES.  I'm not sure if
the 'none' key is defined in 802.11a or not, but it was strange
'almost' working behavior, and my internal pressure caused this
solution to take 8 hours time, rebuilding systems, swapping radios
etc.

Again, Thanks everyone!

Marshall



On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 10:30 AM, Mark Nash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've had this problem before when I set the interface on the AP to a certain
> type.  I believe I had to set it to AP Bridge or AP by itself in configuring
> a point-to-point.
>
> Mark Nash
> UnwiredWest
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> - Original Message -
> From: "rabbtux rabbtux" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 9:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] help! replacement MT based 5.8G system connects,but no
> ping!
>
>
>> On the AP side (producion system for year), it shows this test rb133
>> registered with rx 1M and tx to it of 6M.  Its like the rb133 system
>> refuses to transmit at any rate above 1M??
>> Still, no ping between the two.
>>
>> On 7/1/08, rabbtux rabbtux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> no WDS and no Bridging involved.  Using MT ping utility from either end.
>>>
>>>  I have swapped out CM9 radios and gone to a 'clean' rb133 with the
>>>  same ros2.9.50 as the AP.
>>>
>>>  I moved the client closer and noticed one ODD thing.  With -72db on
>>>  both sides or even with -62db, the Registered rate is always 1M?  yes,
>>>  this is 802.11a, yes the radios are set to 5.8G.  The 'default' rates
>>>  are selected for radios on each end.  Any ideas??
>>>
>>>
>>>  On 7/1/08, Mac Dearman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>  > 1. Kill all encryption on both ends, get them to pass traffic and then
>>>  >  proceed with enabling encryption.
>>>  >  2. be sure you have WDS in the bridge or have both sides set to
>>> dynamic &
>>>  >  bridge1 (or whatever it is)
>>>  >  3. Be sure of your gateway on both sides (this is generally the
>>> easiest to
>>>  >  jack up)
>>>  >
>>>  >  Mac
>>>  >
>>>  >
>>>  >
>>>  >
>>>  >
>>>  >  > -Original Message-
>>>  >  > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>>>  >  > Behalf Of rabbtux rabbtux
>>>  >  > Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 7:50 PM
>>>  >  > To: WISPA General List
>>>  >  > Subject: Re: [WISPA] help! replacement MT based 5.8G system
>>> connects,
>>>  >  > but no ping!
>>>  >  >
>>>  >  > IP address on singel CM9 radio interface.  Just Swapped out the pre
>>>  >  > configured RB333 system with a clean RB133 and freshly configured
>>> to
>>>  >  > the other AP.  Still, it associates with encryption key, but no
>>> ping!
>>>  >  > (hope I still have hair by morning :-)
>>>  >  >
>>>  >  > On 7/1/08, Mark Nash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>  >  > > Are the IP addresses on a bridge or an Interface?
>>>  >  > >
>>>  >  > >  Mark Nash
>>>  >  > >  UnwiredWest
>>>  >  > >  78 Centennial Loop
>>>  >  > >  Suite E
>>>  >  > >  Eugene, OR 97401
>>>  >  > >  541-998-
>>>  >  > >  541-998-5599 fax
>>>  >  > >  http://www.unwiredwest.com
>>>  >  > >
>>>  &

Re: [WISPA] help! replacement MT based 5.8G system connects, but no ping!

[Mark Nash]

I've had this problem before when I set the interface on the AP to a certain 
type.  I believe I had to set it to AP Bridge or AP by itself in configuring 
a point-to-point.

Mark Nash
UnwiredWest
78 Centennial Loop
Suite E
Eugene, OR 97401
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax
http://www.unwiredwest.com
- Original Message - 
From: "rabbtux rabbtux" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 9:01 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] help! replacement MT based 5.8G system connects,but no 
ping!


> On the AP side (producion system for year), it shows this test rb133
> registered with rx 1M and tx to it of 6M.  Its like the rb133 system
> refuses to transmit at any rate above 1M??
> Still, no ping between the two.
>
> On 7/1/08, rabbtux rabbtux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> no WDS and no Bridging involved.  Using MT ping utility from either end.
>>
>>  I have swapped out CM9 radios and gone to a 'clean' rb133 with the
>>  same ros2.9.50 as the AP.
>>
>>  I moved the client closer and noticed one ODD thing.  With -72db on
>>  both sides or even with -62db, the Registered rate is always 1M?  yes,
>>  this is 802.11a, yes the radios are set to 5.8G.  The 'default' rates
>>  are selected for radios on each end.  Any ideas??
>>
>>
>>  On 7/1/08, Mac Dearman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>  > 1. Kill all encryption on both ends, get them to pass traffic and then
>>  >  proceed with enabling encryption.
>>  >  2. be sure you have WDS in the bridge or have both sides set to 
>> dynamic &
>>  >  bridge1 (or whatever it is)
>>  >  3. Be sure of your gateway on both sides (this is generally the 
>> easiest to
>>  >  jack up)
>>  >
>>  >  Mac
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >  > -Original Message-
>>  >  > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>>  >  > Behalf Of rabbtux rabbtux
>>  >  > Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 7:50 PM
>>  >  > To: WISPA General List
>>  >  > Subject: Re: [WISPA] help! replacement MT based 5.8G system 
>> connects,
>>  >  > but no ping!
>>  >  >
>>  >  > IP address on singel CM9 radio interface.  Just Swapped out the pre
>>  >  > configured RB333 system with a clean RB133 and freshly configured 
>> to
>>  >  > the other AP.  Still, it associates with encryption key, but no 
>> ping!
>>  >  > (hope I still have hair by morning :-)
>>  >  >
>>  >  > On 7/1/08, Mark Nash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>  >  > > Are the IP addresses on a bridge or an Interface?
>>  >  > >
>>  >  > >  Mark Nash
>>  >  > >  UnwiredWest
>>  >  > >  78 Centennial Loop
>>  >  > >  Suite E
>>  >  > >  Eugene, OR 97401
>>  >  > >  541-998-
>>  >  > >  541-998-5599 fax
>>  >  > >  http://www.unwiredwest.com
>>  >  > >
>>  >  > > - Original Message -
>>  >  > >  From: "rabbtux rabbtux" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>  >  > >  To: "WISPA General List" 
>>  >  > >  Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 5:18 PM
>>  >  > >  Subject: [WISPA] help! replacement MT based 5.8G system 
>> connects,but
>>  >  > no
>>  >  > >  ping!
>>  >  > >
>>  >  > >
>>  >  > >  > All,
>>  >  > >  >
>>  >  > >  > I'm at wits end as my network is crippled and I'm having 
>> problems
>>  >  > >  > getting the replacement system to talk.  Both systems have the
>>  >  > correct
>>  >  > >  > security key, as they will not register to each other 
>> correctly
>>  >  > >  > without it.  The new system is ros3.9 and it is PTP with 
>> another
>>  >  > >  > ros2.9.50 system.  These two systems connect with 65dbm signal
>>  >  > >  > strength but I can't ping from either end.  I, of course
>>  >  > double/triple
>>  >  > >  > checked interface IPs and masks.  I have used MT for about a 
>> year
>>  >  > and
>>  >  > >  > a half, without issue, however, I'm probably missing something
>>  >  > here as
>>  >  > >  > I work with looming customer calls about when will the 
>> replacement
>>  >  > >  > system be up!

Re: [WISPA] help! replacement MT based 5.8G system connects, but no ping!

[Jeromie Reeves]

A quick way to check connectivity is to look at the neighbor list. You
should see the other system (and as a bonus its IP). If you do not
then something else is wrong (be sure the interfaces have it enabled).
As mentioned, turn off the encryption and get it working first. Double
check the arp tables too. How often and how much does your signal
bounce? Are the antennas very firmly mounted? I have a 13 mile link
that one end needs a stiffer mount, moderate wind causes enough
deflection that the link rate drops.

> Still, no ping between the two.
>
> On 7/1/08, rabbtux rabbtux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> no WDS and no Bridging involved.  Using MT ping utility from either end.
>>
>>  I have swapped out CM9 radios and gone to a 'clean' rb133 with the
>>  same ros2.9.50 as the AP.
>>
>>  I moved the client closer and noticed one ODD thing.  With -72db on
>>  both sides or even with -62db, the Registered rate is always 1M?  yes,
>>  this is 802.11a, yes the radios are set to 5.8G.  The 'default' rates
>>  are selected for radios on each end.  Any ideas??
>>
>>
>>  On 7/1/08, Mac Dearman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>  > 1. Kill all encryption on both ends, get them to pass traffic and then
>>  >  proceed with enabling encryption.
>>  >  2. be sure you have WDS in the bridge or have both sides set to dynamic &
>>  >  bridge1 (or whatever it is)
>>  >  3. Be sure of your gateway on both sides (this is generally the easiest 
>> to
>>  >  jack up)
>>  >
>>  >  Mac
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >  > -Original Message-
>>  >  > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>>  >  > Behalf Of rabbtux rabbtux
>>  >  > Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 7:50 PM
>>  >  > To: WISPA General List
>>  >  > Subject: Re: [WISPA] help! replacement MT based 5.8G system connects,
>>  >  > but no ping!
>>  >  >
>>  >  > IP address on singel CM9 radio interface.  Just Swapped out the pre
>>  >  > configured RB333 system with a clean RB133 and freshly configured to
>>  >  > the other AP.  Still, it associates with encryption key, but no ping!
>>  >  > (hope I still have hair by morning :-)
>>  >  >
>>  >  > On 7/1/08, Mark Nash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>  >  > > Are the IP addresses on a bridge or an Interface?
>>  >  > >
>>  >  > >  Mark Nash
>>  >  > >  UnwiredWest
>>  >  > >  78 Centennial Loop
>>  >  > >  Suite E
>>  >  > >  Eugene, OR 97401
>>  >  > >  541-998-
>>  >  > >  541-998-5599 fax
>>  >  > >  http://www.unwiredwest.com
>>  >  > >
>>  >  > > - Original Message -
>>  >  > >  From: "rabbtux rabbtux" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>  >  > >  To: "WISPA General List" 
>>  >  > >  Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 5:18 PM
>>  >  > >  Subject: [WISPA] help! replacement MT based 5.8G system connects,but
>>  >  > no
>>  >  > >  ping!
>>  >  > >
>>  >  > >
>>  >  > >  > All,
>>  >  > >  >
>>  >  > >  > I'm at wits end as my network is crippled and I'm having problems
>>  >  > >  > getting the replacement system to talk.  Both systems have the
>>  >  > correct
>>  >  > >  > security key, as they will not register to each other correctly
>>  >  > >  > without it.  The new system is ros3.9 and it is PTP with another
>>  >  > >  > ros2.9.50 system.  These two systems connect with 65dbm signal
>>  >  > >  > strength but I can't ping from either end.  I, of course
>>  >  > double/triple
>>  >  > >  > checked interface IPs and masks.  I have used MT for about a year
>>  >  > and
>>  >  > >  > a half, without issue, however, I'm probably missing something
>>  >  > here as
>>  >  > >  > I work with looming customer calls about when will the replacement
>>  >  > >  > system be up!
>>  >  > >  >
>>  >  > >  > Anyway, It would be great to speak to someone with more MT
>>  >  > experience
>>  >  > >  > than myself on this one!  Please hit me off list for details.
>>  >  > >  >
>>  >  > >  > Thank you kindly,
>>  &

Re: [WISPA] help! replacement MT based 5.8G system connects, but no ping!

[rabbtux rabbtux]

On the AP side (producion system for year), it shows this test rb133
registered with rx 1M and tx to it of 6M.  Its like the rb133 system
refuses to transmit at any rate above 1M??
Still, no ping between the two.

On 7/1/08, rabbtux rabbtux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> no WDS and no Bridging involved.  Using MT ping utility from either end.
>
>  I have swapped out CM9 radios and gone to a 'clean' rb133 with the
>  same ros2.9.50 as the AP.
>
>  I moved the client closer and noticed one ODD thing.  With -72db on
>  both sides or even with -62db, the Registered rate is always 1M?  yes,
>  this is 802.11a, yes the radios are set to 5.8G.  The 'default' rates
>  are selected for radios on each end.  Any ideas??
>
>
>  On 7/1/08, Mac Dearman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  > 1. Kill all encryption on both ends, get them to pass traffic and then
>  >  proceed with enabling encryption.
>  >  2. be sure you have WDS in the bridge or have both sides set to dynamic &
>  >  bridge1 (or whatever it is)
>  >  3. Be sure of your gateway on both sides (this is generally the easiest to
>  >  jack up)
>  >
>  >  Mac
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >  > -Original Message-
>  >  > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>  >  > Behalf Of rabbtux rabbtux
>  >  > Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 7:50 PM
>  >  > To: WISPA General List
>  >  > Subject: Re: [WISPA] help! replacement MT based 5.8G system connects,
>  >  > but no ping!
>  >  >
>  >  > IP address on singel CM9 radio interface.  Just Swapped out the pre
>  >  > configured RB333 system with a clean RB133 and freshly configured to
>  >  > the other AP.  Still, it associates with encryption key, but no ping!
>  >  > (hope I still have hair by morning :-)
>  >  >
>  >  > On 7/1/08, Mark Nash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >  > > Are the IP addresses on a bridge or an Interface?
>  >  > >
>  >  > >  Mark Nash
>  >  > >  UnwiredWest
>  >  > >  78 Centennial Loop
>  >  > >  Suite E
>  >  > >  Eugene, OR 97401
>  >  > >  541-998-
>  >  > >  541-998-5599 fax
>  >  > >  http://www.unwiredwest.com
>  >  > >
>  >  > > - Original Message -
>  >  > >  From: "rabbtux rabbtux" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  >  > >  To: "WISPA General List" 
>  >  > >  Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 5:18 PM
>  >  > >  Subject: [WISPA] help! replacement MT based 5.8G system connects,but
>  >  > no
>  >  > >  ping!
>  >  > >
>  >  > >
>  >  > >  > All,
>  >  > >  >
>  >  > >  > I'm at wits end as my network is crippled and I'm having problems
>  >  > >  > getting the replacement system to talk.  Both systems have the
>  >  > correct
>  >  > >  > security key, as they will not register to each other correctly
>  >  > >  > without it.  The new system is ros3.9 and it is PTP with another
>  >  > >  > ros2.9.50 system.  These two systems connect with 65dbm signal
>  >  > >  > strength but I can't ping from either end.  I, of course
>  >  > double/triple
>  >  > >  > checked interface IPs and masks.  I have used MT for about a year
>  >  > and
>  >  > >  > a half, without issue, however, I'm probably missing something
>  >  > here as
>  >  > >  > I work with looming customer calls about when will the replacement
>  >  > >  > system be up!
>  >  > >  >
>  >  > >  > Anyway, It would be great to speak to someone with more MT
>  >  > experience
>  >  > >  > than myself on this one!  Please hit me off list for details.
>  >  > >  >
>  >  > >  > Thank you kindly,
>  >  > >  > Marshall Craw
>  >  > >  > Rabbit Meadows Tech.
>  >  > >  >
>  >  > >  >
>  >  > >
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Re: [WISPA] help! replacement MT based 5.8G system connects, but no ping!

[rabbtux rabbtux]

no WDS and no Bridging involved.  Using MT ping utility from either end.

I have swapped out CM9 radios and gone to a 'clean' rb133 with the
same ros2.9.50 as the AP.

I moved the client closer and noticed one ODD thing.  With -72db on
both sides or even with -62db, the Registered rate is always 1M?  yes,
this is 802.11a, yes the radios are set to 5.8G.  The 'default' rates
are selected for radios on each end.  Any ideas??

On 7/1/08, Mac Dearman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 1. Kill all encryption on both ends, get them to pass traffic and then
>  proceed with enabling encryption.
>  2. be sure you have WDS in the bridge or have both sides set to dynamic &
>  bridge1 (or whatever it is)
>  3. Be sure of your gateway on both sides (this is generally the easiest to
>  jack up)
>
>  Mac
>
>
>
>
>
>  > -Original Message-
>  > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>  > Behalf Of rabbtux rabbtux
>  > Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 7:50 PM
>  > To: WISPA General List
>  > Subject: Re: [WISPA] help! replacement MT based 5.8G system connects,
>  > but no ping!
>  >
>  > IP address on singel CM9 radio interface.  Just Swapped out the pre
>  > configured RB333 system with a clean RB133 and freshly configured to
>  > the other AP.  Still, it associates with encryption key, but no ping!
>  > (hope I still have hair by morning :-)
>  >
>  > On 7/1/08, Mark Nash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  > > Are the IP addresses on a bridge or an Interface?
>  > >
>  > >  Mark Nash
>  > >  UnwiredWest
>  > >  78 Centennial Loop
>  > >  Suite E
>  > >  Eugene, OR 97401
>  > >  541-998-
>  > >  541-998-5599 fax
>  > >  http://www.unwiredwest.com
>  > >
>  > > - Original Message -
>  > >  From: "rabbtux rabbtux" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  > >  To: "WISPA General List" 
>  > >  Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 5:18 PM
>  > >  Subject: [WISPA] help! replacement MT based 5.8G system connects,but
>  > no
>  > >  ping!
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >  > All,
>  > >  >
>  > >  > I'm at wits end as my network is crippled and I'm having problems
>  > >  > getting the replacement system to talk.  Both systems have the
>  > correct
>  > >  > security key, as they will not register to each other correctly
>  > >  > without it.  The new system is ros3.9 and it is PTP with another
>  > >  > ros2.9.50 system.  These two systems connect with 65dbm signal
>  > >  > strength but I can't ping from either end.  I, of course
>  > double/triple
>  > >  > checked interface IPs and masks.  I have used MT for about a year
>  > and
>  > >  > a half, without issue, however, I'm probably missing something
>  > here as
>  > >  > I work with looming customer calls about when will the replacement
>  > >  > system be up!
>  > >  >
>  > >  > Anyway, It would be great to speak to someone with more MT
>  > experience
>  > >  > than myself on this one!  Please hit me off list for details.
>  > >  >
>  > >  > Thank you kindly,
>  > >  > Marshall Craw
>  > >  > Rabbit Meadows Tech.
>  > >  >
>  > >  >
>  > >
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Re: [WISPA] help! replacement MT based 5.8G system connects, but no ping!

[Mac Dearman]

1. Kill all encryption on both ends, get them to pass traffic and then
proceed with enabling encryption. 
2. be sure you have WDS in the bridge or have both sides set to dynamic &
bridge1 (or whatever it is)
3. Be sure of your gateway on both sides (this is generally the easiest to
jack up)

Mac




> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of rabbtux rabbtux
> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 7:50 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] help! replacement MT based 5.8G system connects,
> but no ping!
> 
> IP address on singel CM9 radio interface.  Just Swapped out the pre
> configured RB333 system with a clean RB133 and freshly configured to
> the other AP.  Still, it associates with encryption key, but no ping!
> (hope I still have hair by morning :-)
> 
> On 7/1/08, Mark Nash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Are the IP addresses on a bridge or an Interface?
> >
> >  Mark Nash
> >  UnwiredWest
> >  78 Centennial Loop
> >  Suite E
> >  Eugene, OR 97401
> >  541-998-
> >  541-998-5599 fax
> >  http://www.unwiredwest.com
> >
> > - Original Message -
> >  From: "rabbtux rabbtux" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >  To: "WISPA General List" 
> >  Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 5:18 PM
> >  Subject: [WISPA] help! replacement MT based 5.8G system connects,but
> no
> >  ping!
> >
> >
> >  > All,
> >  >
> >  > I'm at wits end as my network is crippled and I'm having problems
> >  > getting the replacement system to talk.  Both systems have the
> correct
> >  > security key, as they will not register to each other correctly
> >  > without it.  The new system is ros3.9 and it is PTP with another
> >  > ros2.9.50 system.  These two systems connect with 65dbm signal
> >  > strength but I can't ping from either end.  I, of course
> double/triple
> >  > checked interface IPs and masks.  I have used MT for about a year
> and
> >  > a half, without issue, however, I'm probably missing something
> here as
> >  > I work with looming customer calls about when will the replacement
> >  > system be up!
> >  >
> >  > Anyway, It would be great to speak to someone with more MT
> experience
> >  > than myself on this one!  Please hit me off list for details.
> >  >
> >  > Thank you kindly,
> >  > Marshall Craw
> >  > Rabbit Meadows Tech.
> >  >
> >  >
> >
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Re: [WISPA] help! replacement MT based 5.8G system connects, but no ping!

[rabbtux rabbtux]

IP address on singel CM9 radio interface.  Just Swapped out the pre
configured RB333 system with a clean RB133 and freshly configured to
the other AP.  Still, it associates with encryption key, but no ping!
(hope I still have hair by morning :-)

On 7/1/08, Mark Nash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Are the IP addresses on a bridge or an Interface?
>
>  Mark Nash
>  UnwiredWest
>  78 Centennial Loop
>  Suite E
>  Eugene, OR 97401
>  541-998-
>  541-998-5599 fax
>  http://www.unwiredwest.com
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>  Subject: [WISPA] help! replacement MT based 5.8G system connects,but no
>  ping!
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>  > All,
>  >
>  > I'm at wits end as my network is crippled and I'm having problems
>  > getting the replacement system to talk.  Both systems have the correct
>  > security key, as they will not register to each other correctly
>  > without it.  The new system is ros3.9 and it is PTP with another
>  > ros2.9.50 system.  These two systems connect with 65dbm signal
>  > strength but I can't ping from either end.  I, of course double/triple
>  > checked interface IPs and masks.  I have used MT for about a year and
>  > a half, without issue, however, I'm probably missing something here as
>  > I work with looming customer calls about when will the replacement
>  > system be up!
>  >
>  > Anyway, It would be great to speak to someone with more MT experience
>  > than myself on this one!  Please hit me off list for details.
>  >
>  > Thank you kindly,
>  > Marshall Craw
>  > Rabbit Meadows Tech.
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Re: [WISPA] help! replacement MT based 5.8G system connects, but no ping!

[Mark Nash]

Are the IP addresses on a bridge or an Interface?

Mark Nash
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To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 5:18 PM
Subject: [WISPA] help! replacement MT based 5.8G system connects,but no 
ping!


> All,
>
> I'm at wits end as my network is crippled and I'm having problems
> getting the replacement system to talk.  Both systems have the correct
> security key, as they will not register to each other correctly
> without it.  The new system is ros3.9 and it is PTP with another
> ros2.9.50 system.  These two systems connect with 65dbm signal
> strength but I can't ping from either end.  I, of course double/triple
> checked interface IPs and masks.  I have used MT for about a year and
> a half, without issue, however, I'm probably missing something here as
> I work with looming customer calls about when will the replacement
> system be up!
>
> Anyway, It would be great to speak to someone with more MT experience
> than myself on this one!  Please hit me off list for details.
>
> Thank you kindly,
> Marshall Craw
> Rabbit Meadows Tech.
>
>
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[WISPA] help! replacement MT based 5.8G system connects, but no ping!

[rabbtux rabbtux]

All,

I'm at wits end as my network is crippled and I'm having problems
getting the replacement system to talk.  Both systems have the correct
security key, as they will not register to each other correctly
without it.  The new system is ros3.9 and it is PTP with another
ros2.9.50 system.  These two systems connect with 65dbm signal
strength but I can't ping from either end.  I, of course double/triple
checked interface IPs and masks.  I have used MT for about a year and
a half, without issue, however, I'm probably missing something here as
I work with looming customer calls about when will the replacement
system be up!

Anyway, It would be great to speak to someone with more MT experience
than myself on this one!  Please hit me off list for details.

Thank you kindly,
Marshall Craw
Rabbit Meadows Tech.



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RE: [WISPA] Help, tranzeo password

[Mark McElvy]

Call Tranzeo support @ 1888-460-6366 and they can get you in with the
MAC address. 

Mark McElvy


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Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 10:27 AM
To: Conversations over a new WISP Trade Organization
Subject: [WISPA] Help, tranzeo password

I need the utility to get the Tranzeo password.  I am at a subscribers 
house ans can't get into the radio.  Is this something someone can send 
me, or how is this done.

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[WISPA] Help, tranzeo password

[Brian Rohrbacher]

I need the utility to get the Tranzeo password.  I am at a subscribers 
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me, or how is this done.


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RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

[Patrick Leary]

Not sure. These were data reported back to us came from trusted beta
customers. The 80Mbps was from a customer in the south trunking back a bunch
of video connections, the 62Mbps was reported by a large (6k plus CPE) WISP
in Texas, where I suppose it was being used for traditional WISP backhaul
with commercial and residential Internet access and commercial VLAN stuff.

I'll ask the U.S. product manager (bcc'ed here) about performance per
specifically UDP, TCP, and Smartbits. Stay tuned, assuming he fills me in!

Patrick

-Original Message-
From: Charles Wu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 3:47 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

Hi Patrick

How did you guys measure throughput? TCP / UDP / Smartbits?
Inquiring minds would like to know

-Charles

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:28 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links


No. We tend to be RF purists (for better or worse) and components that have
so wide a frequency range have poorer performance. It is a trade off for
sure, but that is why we have not built such a system.

As to channelization, it is 40MHz. Our goal was to offer high performance,
very high quality, great simplicity, and at a very moderate price. This is
not trying to be an Orthogon Spectra and even Redline AN-50 -- WISP already
have those options if you have the need and the money. The BreezeNET B
series offers a fully featured product with "right-sized" capacity at very
modest cost. The BNET's offer Toyota quality, BMW performance, but at a
Chevy price.

Patrick Leary
AVP Marketing
Alvarion, Inc.
o: 650.314.2628
c: 760.580.0080
Vonage: 650.641.1243

-Original Message-
From: Brad Belton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 12:32 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

Oh, one last thing...can the B100 tune to 5.3GHz as well as 5.8GHz?

Best,

Brad

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From: Brad Belton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:30 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

Hello Patrick,

Were the 62 & 80Mbps results using a 20MHz channel or a 40MHz channel?
Regardless those are nice numbers.

Best,

Brad


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:00 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

Jory (et al),

Take a look at our new B100, an addition to popular B14 and B28 BreezeNET
backhaul/bridging line. Lots of people here can give you feedback on the B14
& B28. Feedback from the field on the B100 has provided some really strong
results:

62 Mbps sustained NET throughput at 16 miles
80 Mbps sustained NET throughput at 1 mile

It is a very simple product to install and is highly integrated. The B100
comes with external antenna ports. List price is less than $8K (many here
can chime in with expected discounts to give you an expectation of "street
price."


Patrick Leary
AVP Marketing
Alvarion, Inc.
o: 650.314.2628
c: 760.580.0080
Vonage: 650.641.1243

-Original Message-
From: Jory Privett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 11:57 AM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

I am starting to do some upgrades to my network and need some new Point to 
Point links.  I currently use an Orthogon Gemini Lite for a long link that I

have.  These new links are shorter with good LOS.  I want the reliability of

the Orthogon without the large price tag. These links will be about 15 Miles

and I need a actual throughput of about 10M  I have been looking at the SR5 
radio from Mikrotik. Will the SR5 be able to do this reliably?  I want some 
real world info here and not just marketing hype.  Does anyone have links 
like this with the SR5?  What antenna are you using?  How is the 
performance?

Jory Privett
WCCS 


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RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

[Charles Wu]

Hi Patrick

How did you guys measure throughput? TCP / UDP / Smartbits?
Inquiring minds would like to know

-Charles

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:28 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links


No. We tend to be RF purists (for better or worse) and components that have
so wide a frequency range have poorer performance. It is a trade off for
sure, but that is why we have not built such a system.

As to channelization, it is 40MHz. Our goal was to offer high performance,
very high quality, great simplicity, and at a very moderate price. This is
not trying to be an Orthogon Spectra and even Redline AN-50 -- WISP already
have those options if you have the need and the money. The BreezeNET B
series offers a fully featured product with "right-sized" capacity at very
modest cost. The BNET's offer Toyota quality, BMW performance, but at a
Chevy price.

Patrick Leary
AVP Marketing
Alvarion, Inc.
o: 650.314.2628
c: 760.580.0080
Vonage: 650.641.1243

-Original Message-
From: Brad Belton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 12:32 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

Oh, one last thing...can the B100 tune to 5.3GHz as well as 5.8GHz?

Best,

Brad

-Original Message-
From: Brad Belton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:30 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

Hello Patrick,

Were the 62 & 80Mbps results using a 20MHz channel or a 40MHz channel?
Regardless those are nice numbers.

Best,

Brad


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:00 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

Jory (et al),

Take a look at our new B100, an addition to popular B14 and B28 BreezeNET
backhaul/bridging line. Lots of people here can give you feedback on the B14
& B28. Feedback from the field on the B100 has provided some really strong
results:

62 Mbps sustained NET throughput at 16 miles
80 Mbps sustained NET throughput at 1 mile

It is a very simple product to install and is highly integrated. The B100
comes with external antenna ports. List price is less than $8K (many here
can chime in with expected discounts to give you an expectation of "street
price."


Patrick Leary
AVP Marketing
Alvarion, Inc.
o: 650.314.2628
c: 760.580.0080
Vonage: 650.641.1243

-Original Message-
From: Jory Privett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 11:57 AM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

I am starting to do some upgrades to my network and need some new Point to 
Point links.  I currently use an Orthogon Gemini Lite for a long link that I

have.  These new links are shorter with good LOS.  I want the reliability of

the Orthogon without the large price tag. These links will be about 15 Miles

and I need a actual throughput of about 10M  I have been looking at the SR5 
radio from Mikrotik. Will the SR5 be able to do this reliably?  I want some 
real world info here and not just marketing hype.  Does anyone have links 
like this with the SR5?  What antenna are you using?  How is the 
performance?

Jory Privett
WCCS 


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RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

[Gino A. Villarini]

Just teasing man!

Gino A. Villarini
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 4:06 PM
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

Touche Gino and fair to call me on it, but that is another trade off in the
interest of price competitiveness. We believe that since tight antennas can
be used to mitigate exposure risks (and we FCC certify with good quality
antennas).

Patrick

-Original Message-
From: Gino A. Villarini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 1:02 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

Huh???  RF purist with a 40 mhz wide channel isn't that an oxymoron ?

jeje

Gino A. Villarini
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 3:28 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

No. We tend to be RF purists (for better or worse) and components that have
so wide a frequency range have poorer performance. It is a trade off for
sure, but that is why we have not built such a system.

As to channelization, it is 40MHz. Our goal was to offer high performance,
very high quality, great simplicity, and at a very moderate price. This is
not trying to be an Orthogon Spectra and even Redline AN-50 -- WISP already
have those options if you have the need and the money. The BreezeNET B
series offers a fully featured product with "right-sized" capacity at very
modest cost. The BNET's offer Toyota quality, BMW performance, but at a
Chevy price.

Patrick Leary
AVP Marketing
Alvarion, Inc.
o: 650.314.2628
c: 760.580.0080
Vonage: 650.641.1243

-Original Message-
From: Brad Belton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 12:32 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

Oh, one last thing...can the B100 tune to 5.3GHz as well as 5.8GHz?

Best,

Brad

-Original Message-
From: Brad Belton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:30 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

Hello Patrick,

Were the 62 & 80Mbps results using a 20MHz channel or a 40MHz channel?
Regardless those are nice numbers.

Best,

Brad


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:00 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

Jory (et al),

Take a look at our new B100, an addition to popular B14 and B28 BreezeNET
backhaul/bridging line. Lots of people here can give you feedback on the B14
& B28. Feedback from the field on the B100 has provided some really strong
results:

62 Mbps sustained NET throughput at 16 miles
80 Mbps sustained NET throughput at 1 mile

It is a very simple product to install and is highly integrated. The B100
comes with external antenna ports. List price is less than $8K (many here
can chime in with expected discounts to give you an expectation of "street
price."


Patrick Leary
AVP Marketing
Alvarion, Inc.
o: 650.314.2628
c: 760.580.0080
Vonage: 650.641.1243

-Original Message-
From: Jory Privett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 11:57 AM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

I am starting to do some upgrades to my network and need some new Point to 
Point links.  I currently use an Orthogon Gemini Lite for a long link that I

have.  These new links are shorter with good LOS.  I want the reliability of

the Orthogon without the large price tag. These links will be about 15 Miles

and I need a actual throughput of about 10M  I have been looking at the SR5 
radio from Mikrotik. Will the SR5 be able to do this reliably?  I want some 
real world info here and not just marketing hype.  Does anyone have links 
like this with the SR5?  What antenna are you using?  How is the 
performance?

Jory Privett
WCCS 


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RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

[Patrick Leary]

Touche Gino and fair to call me on it, but that is another trade off in the
interest of price competitiveness. We believe that since tight antennas can
be used to mitigate exposure risks (and we FCC certify with good quality
antennas).

Patrick

-Original Message-
From: Gino A. Villarini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 1:02 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

Huh???  RF purist with a 40 mhz wide channel isn't that an oxymoron ?

jeje

Gino A. Villarini
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 3:28 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

No. We tend to be RF purists (for better or worse) and components that have
so wide a frequency range have poorer performance. It is a trade off for
sure, but that is why we have not built such a system.

As to channelization, it is 40MHz. Our goal was to offer high performance,
very high quality, great simplicity, and at a very moderate price. This is
not trying to be an Orthogon Spectra and even Redline AN-50 -- WISP already
have those options if you have the need and the money. The BreezeNET B
series offers a fully featured product with "right-sized" capacity at very
modest cost. The BNET's offer Toyota quality, BMW performance, but at a
Chevy price.

Patrick Leary
AVP Marketing
Alvarion, Inc.
o: 650.314.2628
c: 760.580.0080
Vonage: 650.641.1243

-Original Message-
From: Brad Belton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 12:32 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

Oh, one last thing...can the B100 tune to 5.3GHz as well as 5.8GHz?

Best,

Brad

-Original Message-
From: Brad Belton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:30 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

Hello Patrick,

Were the 62 & 80Mbps results using a 20MHz channel or a 40MHz channel?
Regardless those are nice numbers.

Best,

Brad


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:00 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

Jory (et al),

Take a look at our new B100, an addition to popular B14 and B28 BreezeNET
backhaul/bridging line. Lots of people here can give you feedback on the B14
& B28. Feedback from the field on the B100 has provided some really strong
results:

62 Mbps sustained NET throughput at 16 miles
80 Mbps sustained NET throughput at 1 mile

It is a very simple product to install and is highly integrated. The B100
comes with external antenna ports. List price is less than $8K (many here
can chime in with expected discounts to give you an expectation of "street
price."


Patrick Leary
AVP Marketing
Alvarion, Inc.
o: 650.314.2628
c: 760.580.0080
Vonage: 650.641.1243

-Original Message-
From: Jory Privett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 11:57 AM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

I am starting to do some upgrades to my network and need some new Point to 
Point links.  I currently use an Orthogon Gemini Lite for a long link that I

have.  These new links are shorter with good LOS.  I want the reliability of

the Orthogon without the large price tag. These links will be about 15 Miles

and I need a actual throughput of about 10M  I have been looking at the SR5 
radio from Mikrotik. Will the SR5 be able to do this reliably?  I want some 
real world info here and not just marketing hype.  Does anyone have links 
like this with the SR5?  What antenna are you using?  How is the 
performance?

Jory Privett
WCCS 


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RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

[Gino A. Villarini]

Huh???  RF purist with a 40 mhz wide channel isn't that an oxymoron ?

jeje

Gino A. Villarini
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Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 3:28 PM
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

No. We tend to be RF purists (for better or worse) and components that have
so wide a frequency range have poorer performance. It is a trade off for
sure, but that is why we have not built such a system.

As to channelization, it is 40MHz. Our goal was to offer high performance,
very high quality, great simplicity, and at a very moderate price. This is
not trying to be an Orthogon Spectra and even Redline AN-50 -- WISP already
have those options if you have the need and the money. The BreezeNET B
series offers a fully featured product with "right-sized" capacity at very
modest cost. The BNET's offer Toyota quality, BMW performance, but at a
Chevy price.

Patrick Leary
AVP Marketing
Alvarion, Inc.
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c: 760.580.0080
Vonage: 650.641.1243

-Original Message-
From: Brad Belton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 12:32 PM
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

Oh, one last thing...can the B100 tune to 5.3GHz as well as 5.8GHz?

Best,

Brad

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From: Brad Belton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:30 PM
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

Hello Patrick,

Were the 62 & 80Mbps results using a 20MHz channel or a 40MHz channel?
Regardless those are nice numbers.

Best,

Brad


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:00 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

Jory (et al),

Take a look at our new B100, an addition to popular B14 and B28 BreezeNET
backhaul/bridging line. Lots of people here can give you feedback on the B14
& B28. Feedback from the field on the B100 has provided some really strong
results:

62 Mbps sustained NET throughput at 16 miles
80 Mbps sustained NET throughput at 1 mile

It is a very simple product to install and is highly integrated. The B100
comes with external antenna ports. List price is less than $8K (many here
can chime in with expected discounts to give you an expectation of "street
price."


Patrick Leary
AVP Marketing
Alvarion, Inc.
o: 650.314.2628
c: 760.580.0080
Vonage: 650.641.1243

-Original Message-
From: Jory Privett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 11:57 AM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

I am starting to do some upgrades to my network and need some new Point to 
Point links.  I currently use an Orthogon Gemini Lite for a long link that I

have.  These new links are shorter with good LOS.  I want the reliability of

the Orthogon without the large price tag. These links will be about 15 Miles

and I need a actual throughput of about 10M  I have been looking at the SR5 
radio from Mikrotik. Will the SR5 be able to do this reliably?  I want some 
real world info here and not just marketing hype.  Does anyone have links 
like this with the SR5?  What antenna are you using?  How is the 
performance?

Jory Privett
WCCS 


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RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

[Patrick Leary]

No. We tend to be RF purists (for better or worse) and components that have
so wide a frequency range have poorer performance. It is a trade off for
sure, but that is why we have not built such a system.

As to channelization, it is 40MHz. Our goal was to offer high performance,
very high quality, great simplicity, and at a very moderate price. This is
not trying to be an Orthogon Spectra and even Redline AN-50 -- WISP already
have those options if you have the need and the money. The BreezeNET B
series offers a fully featured product with "right-sized" capacity at very
modest cost. The BNET's offer Toyota quality, BMW performance, but at a
Chevy price.

Patrick Leary
AVP Marketing
Alvarion, Inc.
o: 650.314.2628
c: 760.580.0080
Vonage: 650.641.1243

-Original Message-
From: Brad Belton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 12:32 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

Oh, one last thing...can the B100 tune to 5.3GHz as well as 5.8GHz?

Best,

Brad

-Original Message-
From: Brad Belton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:30 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

Hello Patrick,

Were the 62 & 80Mbps results using a 20MHz channel or a 40MHz channel?
Regardless those are nice numbers.

Best,

Brad


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:00 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

Jory (et al),

Take a look at our new B100, an addition to popular B14 and B28 BreezeNET
backhaul/bridging line. Lots of people here can give you feedback on the B14
& B28. Feedback from the field on the B100 has provided some really strong
results:

62 Mbps sustained NET throughput at 16 miles
80 Mbps sustained NET throughput at 1 mile

It is a very simple product to install and is highly integrated. The B100
comes with external antenna ports. List price is less than $8K (many here
can chime in with expected discounts to give you an expectation of "street
price."


Patrick Leary
AVP Marketing
Alvarion, Inc.
o: 650.314.2628
c: 760.580.0080
Vonage: 650.641.1243

-Original Message-
From: Jory Privett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 11:57 AM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

I am starting to do some upgrades to my network and need some new Point to 
Point links.  I currently use an Orthogon Gemini Lite for a long link that I

have.  These new links are shorter with good LOS.  I want the reliability of

the Orthogon without the large price tag. These links will be about 15 Miles

and I need a actual throughput of about 10M  I have been looking at the SR5 
radio from Mikrotik. Will the SR5 be able to do this reliably?  I want some 
real world info here and not just marketing hype.  Does anyone have links 
like this with the SR5?  What antenna are you using?  How is the 
performance?

Jory Privett
WCCS 


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RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

[Brad Belton]

Oh, one last thing...can the B100 tune to 5.3GHz as well as 5.8GHz?

Best,

Brad

-Original Message-
From: Brad Belton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:30 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

Hello Patrick,

Were the 62 & 80Mbps results using a 20MHz channel or a 40MHz channel?
Regardless those are nice numbers.

Best,

Brad


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:00 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

Jory (et al),

Take a look at our new B100, an addition to popular B14 and B28 BreezeNET
backhaul/bridging line. Lots of people here can give you feedback on the B14
& B28. Feedback from the field on the B100 has provided some really strong
results:

62 Mbps sustained NET throughput at 16 miles
80 Mbps sustained NET throughput at 1 mile

It is a very simple product to install and is highly integrated. The B100
comes with external antenna ports. List price is less than $8K (many here
can chime in with expected discounts to give you an expectation of "street
price."


Patrick Leary
AVP Marketing
Alvarion, Inc.
o: 650.314.2628
c: 760.580.0080
Vonage: 650.641.1243

-Original Message-
From: Jory Privett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 11:57 AM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

I am starting to do some upgrades to my network and need some new Point to 
Point links.  I currently use an Orthogon Gemini Lite for a long link that I

have.  These new links are shorter with good LOS.  I want the reliability of

the Orthogon without the large price tag. These links will be about 15 Miles

and I need a actual throughput of about 10M  I have been looking at the SR5 
radio from Mikrotik. Will the SR5 be able to do this reliably?  I want some 
real world info here and not just marketing hype.  Does anyone have links 
like this with the SR5?  What antenna are you using?  How is the 
performance?

Jory Privett
WCCS 


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RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

[Brad Belton]

Hello Patrick,

Were the 62 & 80Mbps results using a 20MHz channel or a 40MHz channel?
Regardless those are nice numbers.

Best,

Brad


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:00 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

Jory (et al),

Take a look at our new B100, an addition to popular B14 and B28 BreezeNET
backhaul/bridging line. Lots of people here can give you feedback on the B14
& B28. Feedback from the field on the B100 has provided some really strong
results:

62 Mbps sustained NET throughput at 16 miles
80 Mbps sustained NET throughput at 1 mile

It is a very simple product to install and is highly integrated. The B100
comes with external antenna ports. List price is less than $8K (many here
can chime in with expected discounts to give you an expectation of "street
price."


Patrick Leary
AVP Marketing
Alvarion, Inc.
o: 650.314.2628
c: 760.580.0080
Vonage: 650.641.1243

-Original Message-
From: Jory Privett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 11:57 AM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

I am starting to do some upgrades to my network and need some new Point to 
Point links.  I currently use an Orthogon Gemini Lite for a long link that I

have.  These new links are shorter with good LOS.  I want the reliability of

the Orthogon without the large price tag. These links will be about 15 Miles

and I need a actual throughput of about 10M  I have been looking at the SR5 
radio from Mikrotik. Will the SR5 be able to do this reliably?  I want some 
real world info here and not just marketing hype.  Does anyone have links 
like this with the SR5?  What antenna are you using?  How is the 
performance?

Jory Privett
WCCS 


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[Patrick Leary]

Jory (et al),

Take a look at our new B100, an addition to popular B14 and B28 BreezeNET
backhaul/bridging line. Lots of people here can give you feedback on the B14
& B28. Feedback from the field on the B100 has provided some really strong
results:

62 Mbps sustained NET throughput at 16 miles
80 Mbps sustained NET throughput at 1 mile

It is a very simple product to install and is highly integrated. The B100
comes with external antenna ports. List price is less than $8K (many here
can chime in with expected discounts to give you an expectation of "street
price."


Patrick Leary
AVP Marketing
Alvarion, Inc.
o: 650.314.2628
c: 760.580.0080
Vonage: 650.641.1243

-Original Message-
From: Jory Privett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 11:57 AM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

I am starting to do some upgrades to my network and need some new Point to 
Point links.  I currently use an Orthogon Gemini Lite for a long link that I

have.  These new links are shorter with good LOS.  I want the reliability of

the Orthogon without the large price tag. These links will be about 15 Miles

and I need a actual throughput of about 10M  I have been looking at the SR5 
radio from Mikrotik. Will the SR5 be able to do this reliably?  I want some 
real world info here and not just marketing hype.  Does anyone have links 
like this with the SR5?  What antenna are you using?  How is the 
performance?

Jory Privett
WCCS 


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[WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

[Jory Privett]

I am starting to do some upgrades to my network and need some new Point to 
Point links.  I currently use an Orthogon Gemini Lite for a long link that I 
have.  These new links are shorter with good LOS.  I want the reliability of 
the Orthogon without the large price tag. These links will be about 15 Miles 
and I need a actual throughput of about 10M  I have been looking at the SR5 
radio from Mikrotik. Will the SR5 be able to do this reliably?  I want some 
real world info here and not just marketing hype.  Does anyone have links 
like this with the SR5?  What antenna are you using?  How is the 
performance?

Jory Privett
WCCS 


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[WISPA] HELP M2 Yagi won't work NEED to install tonight!

[Brian Rohrbacher]

I am trying to get an install done tonight but can only get -112 dbm on 
a Canopy SM with a M2 yagi.  I hung the Canopy yesterday (my first one) 
and did an install.  I did one install earlier today with the 13 dbi 
yagi from CTI, so I know I'm not doing something on the radio wrong.  
Anyway, these antennas have to be assambled and must be I put it 
together wrong.  Well, as soon as an answer I'll go finish the install.  
The install is 5 miles LOS.  It didn't work so I came home and assembled 
another Canopy radio and antenna and this one didn't work either.  My 
house is 1/2 mile LOS, so it's not a low signal issue.  Anyway, it must 
be these M2 Yagis.


Give me a call if you want.  269 838 8338


Brian
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