Re: [WISPA] EFT Billing

[Steve Barnes]

IPPAY we do it all but prefer to not do paper.  Charge extra for paper. Echeck 
and Credit card is what we push for.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of ch...@mycountrylink.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 10:19 AM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] EFT Billing

How do you do your EFT (transfers directly from the subscriber's account) 
billing?  Is everyone using authorize.net<http://authorize.net> or IPPAY?  Or 
do most WISPs take Credit Card and Debit Cards only?


Chris Schipper
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Re: [WISPA] List Traffic

[Steve Barnes]

Then there is an issue These are the first emails I got on this list in 2 weeks 
as well.  What was the subjects of yesterday.

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General Manager
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Scott Reed
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 10:54 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] List Traffic

3 yesterday
a bunch the day before.

On 6/29/2012 10:45 AM, Eric Rogers wrote:
Is this list dead?  I haven't received an email since 6/18.

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Re: [WISPA] List Traffic

[Steve Barnes]

Agreed I have an email of 6/15 from Gino  on High Bandwidth 900 MHz/1900 Mhz.  
That was the last I received. I did get 3 yesterday on the WISP list.

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Of James Howard
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 11:24 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] List Traffic

Check the subjects.  I got 3 yesterday on the [Wisp] list but haven't had 
anything from [WISPA] for a while either (looks like 6/15).  I have them both 
forwarded to the same folder though so when I just glanced at it quickly it 
looked like there were 3 emails yesterday.


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[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]<mailto:[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]> 
On Behalf Of Steve Barnes
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 10:07 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] List Traffic

Then there is an issue These are the first emails I got on this list in 2 weeks 
as well.  What was the subjects of yesterday.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi<http://www.rcwifi.com/>

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]<mailto:[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]> 
On Behalf Of Scott Reed
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 10:54 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] List Traffic

3 yesterday
a bunch the day before.

On 6/29/2012 10:45 AM, Eric Rogers wrote:
Is this list dead?  I haven't received an email since 6/18.

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Re: [WISPA] UBNT APs: can they do UAM + DHCP on one "fat" AP?

[Steve Barnes]

Mikrotik would be much better for what your talking about doing.  You are 
talking about a lot of router functions.  UBNT has some ability but is mostly a 
Wireless OS. Where Mtik has some wireless ability but is a RouterOS.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Rogelio
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 6:37 AM
To: Sam Tetherow
Cc: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT APs: can they do UAM + DHCP on one "fat" AP?

Thanks, Sam.  That is helpful.

FWIW, I'm currently researching the following things on UBNT...

1) How exactly is UAM done on all Ubiquiti radios?  Specifically, can an AP do 
the following...

a) white lists an offsite portal page (e.g. NNU or Aptilo)
b) redirects unauthorized users to this portal page?
c) after client pays on portal page, tell the AP UAM webserver on Ubiquiti 
radio to authenticate the user
d) pre-authenticate user MAC addresses that roam from other APs?

2) If a Ubiquiti device already services an SSID, how can it also serve a 
separate SSID that (a) does it's own UAM, and (b) does its own DHCP scope?  Can 
I do this existing hardware?  Or do I need to get a new radio for each new 
service?

Ideally, I'd like to "stack services" on existing UBNT networks, as well as 
roll out new ones...hence the reason I'm hoping for some sort of simple UAM 
overlay.

On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Sam Tetherow  wrote:
> This sounds pretty much like UniFi.  The UniFi units do not handle the 
> DHCP so you would need something handing out leases like a small Mikrotik box.
> You then add all the UniFi units that you want to be 'seamless' to the 
> same network in the unifi controller.  The unifi controller can be run 
> anywhere that is reachable from the UniFi units (the UniFi's do not 
> have to be reachable from the controller though, so then can be behind a NAT).
>
>
>
> On 07/04/2012 05:17 PM, Rogelio wrote:
>
> (Apologies if my questions are a bit naive, I'm still getting used to 
> how Ubiquiti does things. I've always done things the traditional way 
> in carrier networks, i.e. tunneling everything back to the core and 
> then breaking out traffic accordingly).
>
> I have some questions about Ubiquiti's ability to integrate with UAM.
>
> I have a scenario where I will have approximately 1000-2000 APs 
> scattered across different extremely rural areas with limited backhaul 
> space. These areas will likely NOT have the expertise to properly 
> babysit a core solution.
>
> In a past life, I've often just put in an access point with some sort 
> of DHCP solution and UAM redirect. This AP plugged directly into the 
> modem (DSL, cable, etc) and then got a public CPE address which I 
> could manage remotely. When customers hit the open SSID, they got a 
> spash page that was served by NetNearU (NetNearU.com), and when they 
> authenticated, their MAC was whitelisted on for the duration of time. 
> When they went to another AP that had a different DHCP server, their 
> MAC address was pre-authenticated and they appeared (from their perspective 
> "to roam").
>
> A few questions on how I can do this "The Ubiquiti Way".
>
> 1) Does Ubiquiti do DHCP at the edge on each AP? If not, is there some 
> 3rd party software I can use? I understand if this is not supported 
> and if I have to figure this out myself. That is not a problem.
>
> 2) Does Ubiquiti have a way of vectoring the users off to this 
> database? I see that Chili has a plugin, and it looks relatively simple to 
> integrate.
> Does this still work with the current OS? Or have things changed?
>
> http://coova.org/node/3685
>
> 3) Can someone recommend a hosted user database solution that is cheap 
> and reliable? If I had to roll it myself, what would you recommend?
>
> 4) Do I have to use UniFi? Can I just script out some sort of login 
> script to quickly deploy and configure these thigns?
>
> This project (if it takes off) could be about 1000-2000 thousand APs 
> scattered across rural Africa and South America. I'm hoping for 
> limited equipment at the edge (things like battery backups and 
> customized antennas may be needed in some cases, but I'm hoping for limited 
> network equipment).
>
> If anyone has any ideas or would like for me to connect them with the 
> various decision makers, please feel free to contact me offline. I'm 
> not looking to make anything off this project, just donate a little 
> time in helping it get off the ground by asking the right questions.
>
> --
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>
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Re: [WISPA] Its Friday, Feels like Monday.

[Steve Barnes]

That's a nice photo shopped picture.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Jeromie Reeves
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 12:17 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] Its Friday, Feels like Monday.

http://i.imgur.com/hiGWy.jpg

Yikes
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Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo support

[Steve Barnes]

I am not sure it is.  I think the UBNT Noise Floor on their radios is not an 
actual detected floor but a calculation.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCSWIN / RC-WiFi

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Kurt Fankhauser
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 12:48 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo support

why is the tranzeo noise floor lower than ubnt stuff?

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 31, 2012, at 12:14 PM, David Hulsebus  wrote:

> A nod to the folks at Tranzeo who helped me unbrick a radio 180 ft in 
> the air. And I'm the one who bricked it. Ken spent hours helping, 
> reconfigured two systems there to replicate my configs. Found a way in 
> and sent me a how-to.
> 
> Price upfront is not my only criteria for purchasing.  I still use the 
> TR5a series for backhauls where I only need 20MB links. Love working 
> with a -105 noise floor on the Tranzeo's on a busy tower instead of 
> Rockets and NanoBridges that sit at -85.
> 
> YMMV, Dave
> 
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Re: [WISPA] Emergency Broadcast

[Steve Barnes]

What do you mean by emergency broadcast? Free service to any customer for a 
while or actually send out a communicating broadcast. If so how do you expect 
others to receive it.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi<http://www.rcwifi.com/>

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of ~NGL~
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 3:09 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Emergency Broadcast

We just had a 8000 acre fire go through our area. Called the Wye Fire.  In fact 
it is only 75% contained at this time. I came within 1/2 mille of my main tower 
for that area. 450 families were forced to evacuate with very little notice/ 
The phone lines went down about 2 hours prior to evacuation. There is no cell 
phone or television  service in the area.
What I would like to do is do an emergency broadcast from the AP's to the 
clients. Is this possible?

NGL

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Re: [WISPA] Emergency Broadcast

[Steve Barnes]

No you cannot force something on their normal screen.  But what Josh was 
stating was you can setup a Redirection so that any client that opens a browser 
and tries to go to a website will be redirected to a site of your choice.  Now 
that works good but that is all they would get.  Like Chris stated if you have 
a Mikrotik in the line you can enable the hotspot so that they would get a 
splash page for until the hit a continue button.  Neither are a very good 
option.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi<http://www.rcwifi.com/>

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of ~NGL~
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 3:21 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Emergency Broadcast

I would like to send it out to all clients, to be seen on their monitor.
NGL
From: Steve Barnes<mailto:st...@pcswin.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 12:15 PM
To: WISPA General List<mailto:wireless@wispa.org>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Emergency Broadcast

What do you mean by emergency broadcast? Free service to any customer for a 
while or actually send out a communicating broadcast. If so how do you expect 
others to receive it.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi<http://www.rcwifi.com/>

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]<mailto:[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]> 
On Behalf Of ~NGL~
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 3:09 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Emergency Broadcast

We just had a 8000 acre fire go through our area. Called the Wye Fire.  In fact 
it is only 75% contained at this time. I came within 1/2 mille of my main tower 
for that area. 450 families were forced to evacuate with very little notice/ 
The phone lines went down about 2 hours prior to evacuation. There is no cell 
phone or television  service in the area.
What I would like to do is do an emergency broadcast from the AP's to the 
clients. Is this possible?

NGL

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Re: [WISPA] Houston TX WISP - looking for 50mb. Anyone?.

[Steve Barnes]

Tom Good to see you on the list.  I had thought you had fallen off the planet.  
I hope all is well.  I miss your insights.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi<http://www.rcwifi.com/>

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 12:47 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Houston TX WISP - looking for 50mb. Anyone?.

Any WISPA members, WISPs or Contractors, serve Downtown Houston, TX?

If so, I'd like to refer an exciting profitable job to you, for an event.

(Originally, I was going to fly down and do it, using a 24Ghz link to a nearby 
building with Cogent Fiber. But unfortuantely I have a conflict I cant get out 
of, so my company will be unavailable to accept job)

If interested, reply to me ASAP, and I'll disclose details.
There is plenty of time before event date, but I could really use a reply today.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
301-515-7774

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Re: [WISPA] Houston TX WISP - looking for 50mb. Anyone?.

[Steve Barnes]

Would love to see you at WISPAPOLOOZA in Vegas. You would be a great speaker 
for several sessions.  Think about it and let me know we still have lots of 
sessions that need panelist.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi<http://www.rcwifi.com/>

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 1:43 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Houston TX WISP - looking for 50mb. Anyone?.

Thanks.

I kind of did fall off the earth. My personal life got real ugly this year, so 
I had to refocus my time. But RapidDSL is still alive and doing well.
I hope to get back to WISPA more in the Fall.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message -----
From: Steve Barnes<mailto:st...@pcswin.com>
To: WISPA General List<mailto:wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Houston TX WISP - looking for 50mb. Anyone?.

Tom Good to see you on the list.  I had thought you had fallen off the planet.  
I hope all is well.  I miss your insights.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi<http://www.rcwifi.com/>

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]<mailto:[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]> 
On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 12:47 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Houston TX WISP - looking for 50mb. Anyone?.

Any WISPA members, WISPs or Contractors, serve Downtown Houston, TX?

If so, I'd like to refer an exciting profitable job to you, for an event.

(Originally, I was going to fly down and do it, using a 24Ghz link to a nearby 
building with Cogent Fiber. But unfortuantely I have a conflict I cant get out 
of, so my company will be unavailable to accept job)

If interested, reply to me ASAP, and I'll disclose details.
There is plenty of time before event date, but I could really use a reply today.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
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Re: [WISPA] ???

[Steve Barnes]

You may have something else going on but I have had:
2 on the 21
6 on the 19th
1 on the 18th
16 on the 17th
So On 


Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Rick Kunze
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 2:54 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] ???

No list traffic since the 9th?

Rk

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Re: [WISPA] ???

[Steve Barnes]

Foul Ball... Sheesh Josh :)

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 3:02 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ???

Reboot your Linksys and you'll get email again.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 2:58 PM, Steve Barnes 
mailto:st...@pcswin.com>> wrote:
You may have something else going on but I have had:
2 on the 21
6 on the 19th
1 on the 18th
16 on the 17th
So On....


Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>] On 
Behalf Of Rick Kunze
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 2:54 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] ???
No list traffic since the 9th?

Rk

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Re: [WISPA] Speed test volunteers anyone?

[Steve Barnes]

Ralph as you can see the issue is not how it works out of you network but how 
it works in your network.  You are getting every kind of answer depending on 
where the tester is and what the path looks like between you and them.  Like 
your text says this pretty close measures the speed on your network.

Looks good and good text.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi<http://www.rcwifi.com/>

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Ralph
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 7:08 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Speed test volunteers anyone?

Oops  again. Sorry, I changed the text of the link but not the link.

http://brightlan.net/page26.html



From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]<mailto:[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]> 
On Behalf Of Ralph
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 7:04 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Speed test volunteers anyone?

Duh. Sorry.
http://brightlan.net/page26.html<http://brightlan.net/page22.html>


From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ralph
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 6:56 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: [WISPA] Speed test volunteers anyone?

I have just finished installing Speedtest Mini in our data center and I would 
like some help testing it.
If you have a "big pipe", it would be especially helpful to have your feedback.

Thanks very much

Ralph
Brightlan.net
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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers

[Steve Barnes]

All my customers are natted at the CPE unless they have Static IP. Actually we 
Nat at the AP as well. So they are triple Natted and I have lots of customers 
doing VPN's and every form of video and music and have never had one problem.

Pro's:
Customer can plug PC right into POE or switch and don't need a Router.
No worry if customer plugs router in backward of getting their DHCP on our AP
Customer has another level of security (yes its poor)

Con's:
Some items such as XBOX don't like it.
I can't remote login to their Router to see what they have done wrong.

Steve Barnes
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Of Arthur Stephens
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 3:47 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers

We currently use Ubiquiti radios in bridge mode and assign a ip address to the 
customers router.
He have heard other wisp are using the Ubiquiti radio as a router.
Would like feed back why one would do this when it appears customers would be 
double natted when they hook up their routers?
Or does it not matter from the customer experience?

Thanks

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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers

[Steve Barnes]

Not to add an advertisement but Level 2 networking is one of the topics that we 
plan to hit on at WISPAPOLOOZA in the Technical Knowledge Exchange at 4:00 on 
Thursday the 25th. That is one of the point Gino wanted to bring up.  I will be 
moderating so if someone has other important Technical questions that might be 
a good session or the Technical Round table Tuesday evening from 7:45 till we 
go to bed.  Hope to see you all there.

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Dustin Jurman
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 8:52 PM
To: WISPA General List
Cc: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers

Hey Fred,  we did exactly that with our Hardee County Network, we use licensed 
links between MEF switches.  Rapid deployment with fiber forward design.

I think we have been through all configurations,  bridging, routing and layer2 
switching.  You could not hit the nail on the head any better here.

The advantages of this type of design include scaleability, performance and 
reduced opex.

DSJ

Dustin Jurman C.E.O
Rapid Systems Corporation
1211 North Westshore BLVD suite 711
Tampa, Fl 33607
"Building Better Infrastructure"

On Oct 11, 2012, at 8:35 PM, "Fred Goldstein" 
mailto:fgoldst...@ionary.com>> wrote:
At 10/11/2012 06:52 PM, SamT wrote:

Not sure I under stand the no-NAT, so every device on the other side of the CPE 
has it's own public IP?

There could be one NAT, at the access point.

My taste, which to be sure I haven't tested at scale in a wireless network (but 
plan to), is to follow what is becoming standard wireline practice and do 
switching, not bridging, at "layer 2".  Routing would then be lumped into one 
place, making it easier to manage.

The problem with small Linux-based systems (this includes both UBNT and MT) is 
that they don't tend to have switching documented or set up in the UI, even if 
it's possible.  Bridging is bad -- it was designed for orange hose Ethernet, 
and it passes broadcast traffic to everyone.  We invented this at DEC in the 
1980s and discovered how it doesn't scale too well -- we had a couple of 
thousand DECnet and IP nodes on a bridged LAN, and the background broadcast 
traffic level was 400 kbps.  This was a lot for systems to handle in 1991.  I 
was testing ISDN bridges and "discovered" how you can't just bridge that type 
of network across a 56k connection.  (I discovered the traffic when I first 
turned up the bridge.  I ended up isolating it behind a router, built from an 
old VAX.  At DEC, we built everything ouf of VAXen.)

Switching, though, is what Frame Relay and ATM do, and now Carrier Ethernet is 
the big thing for fiber.  It uses the VLAN tag to identify the virtual circuit; 
the MAC addresses are just passed along.  Since it's connection-oriented (via 
the tag), it can have QoS assigned.  I think it's theoretically possible to tag 
user ports, route on tags and set QoS on RouterOS, but it's not obvious how to 
do it all.  Switching doesn't pass broadcast traffic; it provides more 
isolation and privacy than plain routing.  Mesh routing then works at that 
layer, transparent to IP.  It'll be "interesting" to set up.



On 10/11/2012 4:53 PM, Scott Reed wrote:

We run MT, not UBNT, CPE, but it doesn't matter what brand it is.  We run them 
in as routers, but do not NAT.  Same benefits others mentioned for routing, 
just one fewer NAT.  Never have a problem with it this way and can't see any 
good reason to NAT there.

On 10/11/2012 3:46 PM, Arthur Stephens wrote:

We currently use Ubiquiti radios in bridge mode and assign a ip address to the 
customers router.
He have heard other wisp are using the Ubiquiti radio as a router.
Would like feed back why one would do this when it appears customers would be 
double natted when they hook up their routers?
Or does it not matter from the customer experience?

Thanks

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Re: [WISPA] Another Ubiquity question

[Steve Barnes]

II was told NO!! <27VDC

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Greg Ihnen
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 7:35 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Another Ubiquity question

Doesn't UBNT gear take up to 30v?

Greg
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 4:22 PM, Jeromie Reeves 
mailto:jree...@18-30chat.net>> wrote:
Why not run the NSM5 on 24v? Just add a diode or two to the + side,
the 1v drop on them will protect the NSM from
the charge voltage of the bank. $2 fix

On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Olufemi Adalemo 
mailto:adal...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> It just dawned on me that I may have been barking up the wrong tree
> I only have the one NSM5 to connect, I could hook this up to the parallel
> segment of my battery bank and get only 12v while the rest of the
> installation that's connected in series gets 24v. Do you think this will
> work? Don't really have to worry about the NSM5 running down the battery
> cause load is low and the cable run is under 10m so the voltage drop from
> 12v will be negligible
>
> So this is how it would be:
> 24v solar panel connected to 24v charge controller with 4 x 12v batteries
> connected in a 2x2 series/parallel array. cable connected to the parallel
> segment of battery bank (theoretically giving 12v to the NSM5), rest of the
> load connected to the charge controller at 24v
>
> What do you think?
>
> - - -
> Olufemi Adalemo
> M: +234-803-5610040
> M: +234-809-8610040
> f...@adalemo.com<mailto:f...@adalemo.com>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Kristian Hoffmann 
> mailto:kh...@fire2wire.com>>
> wrote:
>>
>> Ya, it should be +24 on pins 4,5 and -24/comm on 7,8.  If it blew up then
>> there was probably a short somewhere.
>>
>> -Kristian
>>
>>
>> On 10/12/2012 11:11 AM, Olufemi Adalemo wrote:
>>
>> Ah ok, it is possible that the guys didn't get the polarity right
>> I will check though they swear that they did
>>
>>
>> - - -
>> Olufemi Adalemo
>> M: +234-803-5610040
>> M: +234-809-8610040
>> f...@adalemo.com<mailto:f...@adalemo.com>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 7:05 PM, Josh Luthman
>> mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> What voltage were the batteries spitting out?  They charge at 27v but
>>> without a charger put out much closer to 24v until they begin discharging.
>>> If it fried the radio I would first think that it was connected wrong, not
>>> that the voltage was too high.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Olufemi Adalemo 
>>> mailto:adal...@gmail.com>>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> What's your typical config for the NSM5?
>>>> Some of my guys just tried to power one off a 24v battery bank (no
>>>> charger connected just battery) and it fried good
>>>>
>>>> - - -
>>>> Olufemi Adalemo
>>>> M: +234-803-5610040
>>>> M: +234-809-8610040
>>>> f...@adalemo.com<mailto:f...@adalemo.com>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Kristian Hoffmann 
>>>> mailto:kh...@fire2wire.com>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> We have MT and Ubnt equipment of all shapes and sizes running at 27.6V.
>>>>> The only problems we've had are a handful of freak RB411s that won't power
>>>>> on with >27V.  Most of the older ones wouldn't kick into overvoltage
>>>>> protection until >28V, but we've come across a few odd balls.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Kristian
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/12/2012 10:44 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Charger isn't going to spit out 24v for batteries that need charged,
>>>>> it's usually 27v.
>>>>>
>>>>> I was under the impression they would simply lock up and you could
>>>>> reboot, or maybe I'm just thinking of MT.
>>>>>
>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>

Re: [WISPA] Another Ubiquity question

[Steve Barnes]

I believe it was Matt Hardy and Then was told the same when I went to AirMax 
Certification classes.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi<http://www.rcwifi.com/>

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Kristian Hoffmann
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 7:44 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Another Ubiquity question

Can you reveal your source?

-Kristian
On 10/17/2012 06:50 AM, Steve Barnes wrote:
II was told NO!! <27VDC

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Greg Ihnen
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 7:35 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Another Ubiquity question

Doesn't UBNT gear take up to 30v?

Greg
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 4:22 PM, Jeromie Reeves 
mailto:jree...@18-30chat.net>> wrote:
Why not run the NSM5 on 24v? Just add a diode or two to the + side,
the 1v drop on them will protect the NSM from
the charge voltage of the bank. $2 fix

On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Olufemi Adalemo 
mailto:adal...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> It just dawned on me that I may have been barking up the wrong tree
> I only have the one NSM5 to connect, I could hook this up to the parallel
> segment of my battery bank and get only 12v while the rest of the
> installation that's connected in series gets 24v. Do you think this will
> work? Don't really have to worry about the NSM5 running down the battery
> cause load is low and the cable run is under 10m so the voltage drop from
> 12v will be negligible
>
> So this is how it would be:
> 24v solar panel connected to 24v charge controller with 4 x 12v batteries
> connected in a 2x2 series/parallel array. cable connected to the parallel
> segment of battery bank (theoretically giving 12v to the NSM5), rest of the
> load connected to the charge controller at 24v
>
> What do you think?
>
> - - -
> Olufemi Adalemo
> M: +234-803-5610040
> M: +234-809-8610040
> f...@adalemo.com<mailto:f...@adalemo.com>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Kristian Hoffmann 
> mailto:kh...@fire2wire.com>>
> wrote:
>>
>> Ya, it should be +24 on pins 4,5 and -24/comm on 7,8.  If it blew up then
>> there was probably a short somewhere.
>>
>> -Kristian
>>
>>
>> On 10/12/2012 11:11 AM, Olufemi Adalemo wrote:
>>
>> Ah ok, it is possible that the guys didn't get the polarity right
>> I will check though they swear that they did
>>
>>
>> - - -
>> Olufemi Adalemo
>> M: +234-803-5610040
>> M: +234-809-8610040
>> f...@adalemo.com<mailto:f...@adalemo.com>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 7:05 PM, Josh Luthman
>> mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> What voltage were the batteries spitting out?  They charge at 27v but
>>> without a charger put out much closer to 24v until they begin discharging.
>>> If it fried the radio I would first think that it was connected wrong, not
>>> that the voltage was too high.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Olufemi Adalemo 
>>> mailto:adal...@gmail.com>>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> What's your typical config for the NSM5?
>>>> Some of my guys just tried to power one off a 24v battery bank (no
>>>> charger connected just battery) and it fried good
>>>>
>>>> - - -
>>>> Olufemi Adalemo
>>>> M: +234-803-5610040
>>>> M: +234-809-8610040
>>>> f...@adalemo.com<mailto:f...@adalemo.com>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Kristian Hoffmann 
>>>> mailto:kh...@fire2wire.com>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> We have MT and Ubnt equipment of all shapes and sizes running at 27.6V.
>>>>> The only problems we've had are a handful of freak RB411s that won't power
>>>>> on with >27V.  Most of the older ones wouldn't kick into overvoltage
>>>>> protection until >28V, but we've come across a few odd balls.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Kristian
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/12/2012 10:44 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Charger isn't going 

Re: [WISPA] Are Ubiquiti cables failing???

[Steve Barnes]

I had my fist 3 cable failures this week.  Blown radios and POE's.  I know that 
I don't get any credit for labor but I also don't want any new cable that will 
fail in a year.  I think I will just have them replace the radios and go one 
with Life.  Not sure how I would ever get rid of 10 boxes of new UBNT cable.  I 
would put it out.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi


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Of Jeromie Reeves
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 12:40 PM
To: paolo.difrance...@level7.it; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are Ubiquiti cables failing???

Yes. As stated the green stuff is crap. Ive got boxes of radios with dead 
ethernet ports. Forget new cable, I want my radios fixed! We used the cable in 
short runs <15ft, and are finding more and more places it was used as those 
sites fail.

On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 4:24 PM, Paolo Di Francesco 
 wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> it seems that lately the Ubiquiti cables that we installed some time 
> ago, are filling with water and burning the ethernet interface.
>
> It happened with one cable on one site, then another cable on the same 
> site, now I have another cable failing on a second site...
>
> Any comment?
>
> Thank you
>
> --
>
>
> Ing. Paolo Di Francesco
>
> Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale
>
> Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo
>
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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ERLite-3 3-port Router

[Steve Barnes]

That's the new UBNT Edge Router line.  I was not aware that they have actually 
shipped to general public yet.

UBNT is trying to get into the Router market as well.  Time will tell.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi<http://www.rcwifi.com/>

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Of ~NGL~
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 1:43 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquiti ERLite-3 3-port Router

Anyone have any experience with this router?
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Re: [WISPA] Farewell and good luck to you all!!!

[Steve Barnes]

Good luck 

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Dylan Bouterse
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2013 5:30 PM
To: WISPA General List (wireless@wispa.org)
Subject: [WISPA] Farewell and good luck to you all!!!

It is with a heavy heart I send this email to you all to let you know I am 
moving on from my current employment and even this industry to the next step in 
my career. I've been a part of this group for 8.5 years and I've enjoyed being 
a part of the discussions (usually more passive) and observing and 
participating in growing the community we all love. A large majority of you 
I've probably never met, but we may have brushed shoulders at a WISPA shows, or 
others. I want to thank each and every one of you for your continued 
participation in this industry and I hope it continues to grow by leaps and 
bounds. You are all an inspiration and example of what a grass roots 
organization can do when determined and led by fantastic people.

The next step in my career is taking me to Raleigh (from Central Florida) into 
a pre-sales solutions engineer position for data center products. I'm excited 
for this next BIG step in life as it will be a BIG change for me, not only 
professionally but personally as well.

If any of you want to keep in touch, please email me directly before next 
Friday and I'll be happy share my personal email address with you.

Again, thank you to all of you and good luck in your future endeavors!

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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti airfiber on the same tower...

[Steve Barnes]

I would expect that her would be some side lobe interference.  If they were 
more like 40 Degrees then you would probably be fine.  But 11 is really close.  
What Kind of distances from A to B and A to C.  The closer the better, the 
further its going to get more tricky.

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Of Paolo Di Francesco
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 8:49 AM
To: WISPA General List (wireless@wispa.org)
Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquiti airfiber on the same tower...

Hi All

I was wondering what is your experience on Airfiber. In particular my question 
is if the following scenario could work or not work in your opinion/experience

On tower at LocationA there are two Airfiber pointing at the same direction 
LocationB and LocationC, more or less.
On the tower at LocationA, the two airfibers are mounted at let's say
1-2 meters distance (horizontal and vertical) and 10 degrees of difference in 
the 2 directions LocationB and LocationC.
LocationB and LocationC are two other towers both pointing at LocationA.

I am wondering if at 24Ghz I could see some interference or not , in this 
situaitons

Thank you in advance

-- 


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Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo

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Re: [WISPA] US and Worldwide Versions

[Steve Barnes]

They do not match the FCC rules for the US UNII bands.  They are the same 
radios just not locked down correctly.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN<http://www.rcwifi.com/>
Howard LLC

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Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 12:12 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] US and Worldwide Versions

What are the differences between Nanabridge US and Worldwide versions?
Are the Worldwide versions usable in the US?
Thanx
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Re: [WISPA] Siklu Eband -finally affordable

[Steve Barnes]

When you get into 80 GHz don't you have to worry about Oxygen absorption of the 
signal.


Steve Barnes
General Manager
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Howard LLC

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Sam Tetherow
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 3:27 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Siklu Eband -finally affordable

Wow!

(partially because of the price drop, but mostly because I haven't seen Tom 
post in forever, welcome back)

I haven't really studied up on 80GHz stuff, but it is my understanding that you 
don't have to worry about rain fade, and you have 10GHz of spectrum to use 
which should ease co-location issues.

On 04/04/2013 09:06 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote:
Its been ages since I've posted, butthis advertisement surely caught my eye.

Siklu Eband radios (licenced light) for sub $3500 per link.  FINALLY !!!  We 
can afford to start using this 70G spectrum.

Some may say not that exciting, considering 24Ghz products have already hit 
that price mark and functionality, and can go 3x the distance.
But, I say its exciting, thats one ambitious price drop from where other 80Ghz 
products have been priced at ($30k), historically 2-4x over priced compared to 
60Ghz equivellent  product, just because of the uniqueness to license 80Ghz and 
slight increase in range. Its nice to see someone finally do it, after I've 
been screaming for it for the last 10 years.

Anyway... anyone use the product yet and have feedback?



Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


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Subject: [WISPA] Bullet M5HP

What kind of throughput can I expect with a pair of Bullet M5's PTP with 24 DBI 
Grids and pure LOS at 2-5 miles?
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Re: [WISPA] Law Enforcement Contact Verification?

[Steve Barnes]

+1   Yeah since I went to their home page an it said nothing about DHS Iwas not 
inclined to input.

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General Manager
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
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Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 8:37 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Law Enforcement Contact Verification?

Rick,

If you have a contact, yes, it would probably be in our best interest to find a 
little background on these emails. DHS, and requirement in the same email, 
requesting contact
info, doesn’t give me that warm fuzzy feeling..

Call me paranoid, but I don’t feel comfortable with blanket information 
gathering for no good reason.

Richard


From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 7:41 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Law Enforcement Contact Verification?

I don’t believe I met Paula Denbow at WISPAmerica, but I did help her Admin 
Asst. get her registered.  American Roamer joined WISPA in July 2009.  They 
changed their name to Mosaik a few years ago and dropped membership for a year. 
 They just rejoined as a Vendor Member a few months ago.  I did have a 
conference call with a few of the team before they rejoined.  They do a lot of 
demographic type mapping and statistical evaluation of industries.  I wish I 
could remember more, but my mind is fried with WISPAmerica last week.  If you 
guys want, I will reach out to Paula and express your concerns about this 
letter.  Maybe she can give me a better explanation so I can relay it back to 
the list.

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Respectfully,

Rick Harnish
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WISPA
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 7:56 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Law Enforcement Contact Verification?

Mosaic was at Wispamerica.  Who/what are they?


On Apr 10, 2013, at 6:45 PM, Clay Stewart 
mailto:cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com>>
 wrote:
phishy phishy phishy
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Adam Greene 
mailto:maill...@webjogger.net>> wrote:
Anyone else receive a “Law Enforcement Contact Verification” email from Mosaik 
Solutions (formerly American Roamer) requesting our company’s “organizational 
contacts responsible for interacting with Homeland Security and other law 
enforcement agencies, as is required of us by the US Department of Homeland 
Security”?

Seems strange to me that a private company would contact me out of the blue, 
implying that they are an official intermediary of the US Government.

I’m not liking it … almost sounds like a phishing scheme.

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Re: [WISPA] Blocking Torrents

[Steve Barnes]

I am to the point that I believe the only way to block all torrents is to turn 
the internet off.  So many are even using port 80 now.  You can do packet 
inspection and help out if on a MT but not sure on a UBNT.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN<http://www.rcwifi.com/>
Howard LLC

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Of ~NGL~
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 1:53 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Blocking Torrents

Can I block all Torrents using the Ubiquiti ERLite-3 ?
Thanx
NGL

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Re: [WISPA] More than 32 clients on Bullet2 HP

[Steve Barnes]

You can do it from the command line but Why would you want to.  Throw a MTik in 
front Bridge the Bullet and Control it all on the MTik.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN<http://www.rcwifi.com/>
Howard LLC

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 1:15 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] More than 32 clients on Bullet2 HP


I think the newer software allows more...something about that was mentioned.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Jul 3, 2013 1:10 PM, "Matt Hoppes" 
mailto:mhop...@indigowireless.com>> wrote:
Are you talking about MAC ACL?  Yes, use something other than the AP to
manage your clients... or depending on why you are doing MAC ACL, switch
to use WPA2 encryption.


Matt Hoppes
Director of Information Technology
Indigo Wireless
+1 (570) 723-7312

On 7/3/13 1:08 PM, Greg Osborn wrote:
> Bridge it and us a Mikrotik router for ACL
>
> *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> 
> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>]
> *On Behalf Of *~NGL~
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 26, 2013 6:53 PM
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* [WISPA] More than 32 clients on Bullet2 HP
>
> How do I add more than 32 Client on a Bullet2 HP. At 32 the add button
> is greyed out.
>
> Thanx'
>
> NGL
>
>
>
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> And if it's in English Thank A Soldier!
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Re: [WISPA] Recommendations for Ubiquiti 3.65 site

[Steve Barnes]

I have to agree with Gino.  I have not had much luck with M365 PTMP setup.  PTP 
is fine but you only have 25MHz to use.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCSWIN.com
Howard LLC.

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Matt Hoppes
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 12:03 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Recommendations for Ubiquiti 3.65 site

Don't do it??  Where'd that come from.

There's really only two models of CPEs in the 3.65 world... the NanoStation and 
the NanoBridge.  The NanoStation will be good for about a mile clear line of 
site.  The NanoBridge will be good a few miles out, and perhaps closer with a 
small obstruction (bush, single tree, etc).

3GHz requires nearly clear line of site to operate properly.

You must register your 3GHz with the FCC and pay the $200 license fee.

You must coordinate with grandfathered earth stations if there are any near you.


Matt Hoppes
Director of Information Technology
Indigo Wireless
+1 (570) 723-7312

On 7/31/13 11:46 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
> Hey it could work...
>
> Why are you replacing the gear?
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Gino Villarini  wrote:
>> Don't do it...
>>
>> Gino A. Villarini
>> g...@aeronetpr.com
>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>> 787.273.4143
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
>> Behalf Of daniel.mul...@metrocom.ca
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 11:01 AM
>> To: wireless@wispa.org
>> Subject: [WISPA] Recommendations for Ubiquiti 3.65 site
>>
>> We are putting up a 3.65 GHz system next week to take existing customers off 
>> of an existing Canopy 2.4GHz system.
>>
>> Is there anyone who has deployed the 3 Ghz gear from Ubnt and could 
>> recommend which model of CPE and if there anything to know to avoid a steep 
>> 'learning curve' since we have never deployed anything from Ubiquiti until 
>> now.
>>
>> Suggestions as to the best prices are most welcome too!
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Daniel
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Re: [WISPA] Latest trend for heavy wooded areas

[Steve Barnes]

I have 1 Tower with UBNT 900Mhz and 1 tower with MT and XR9 cards.  Both have 
~25 clients.  The MT tower Has more trees and a Single V-Pol Omni. The UBNT has 
a the UBNT 120* sector so it is limited to the direction it is pointed.  I get 
the same throughput on both.  I can give Clients a 5MB service no issues 
depending on SNR but most have a 2MB or less service.  They both work.  But 
these are very Rural and when the RTK farming system is active for Planting or 
Harvesting then it gets a little dicey.  But they have no other option when 
they call and complain during those times I explain that it is noise I have no 
control over, Sorry.

[my opinion]
Putting multiple 900Mhz Radios on a single tower is IMPOSIBLE without GPS sync. 
 The Noise from one to the other, even from bounces off of buildings 1 mile 
away makes the noise too high for the sector.  I mean come on you only have 
25MHz to play in and in today's world to offer the speeds you need to on 900 
you need to use 20 MHz.  Even if you use 10Mhz and use the top and bottom you 
only have 5MHz Separation and on the same tower unless you are on opposite 
sides of a solid steel water tower, you will have enough bleed over that your 
receive sensitivity will be shot.
[/my opinion]

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCSWIN.com
Howard LLC.

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of TJ Trout
Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 10:47 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Latest trend for heavy wooded areas


Ubnt 900 is a joke
On Aug 22, 2013 7:43 AM, "Coenraad Loubser" 
mailto:coenr...@wish.org.za>> wrote:
Is it a bird? Is it a plane? No, it's not even an April fools joke. 
http://www.google.com/loon/
Maybe if you can get hold of a human at Google you could interest them in 
running a trial with you...


Coenraad Loubser

WISH Networks (Pty) Ltd.
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Office: 087 805 7480
Skype: Wish_Support
Email: coenr...@wish.org.za<mailto:coenr...@wish.org.za>
Cell: 073 772 1223 (By appointment)
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On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 4:31 PM, Josh Luthman 
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:
Well the one I remember is Canopy and Ubnt on the same tower, both
900.  The Canopy would rx more than enough to work while Ubnt wouldn't
hear the AP at all.  Moving around the trees (similar distance from
the tower) the signal would appear strong.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Mike Hammett 
mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
> Almost every time someone has detailed their installations to me, there just
> isn't enough signal to do anything. They're getting a -76 and wondering why
> it doesn't work. Increase that another 15 dB and try again. The Canopy will
> work a little better because it requires less signal, but it also has
> nowhere near the same throughput, so they're really apples and oranges.
>
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> 
> From: "Josh Luthman" 
> mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>
>
> To: "WISPA General List" mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
> Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 9:20:24 AM
>
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Latest trend for heavy wooded areas
>
> Ubnt 900 apparently has extremely poor nlos for 900 MHz.  I've heard
> this a handful of people but haven't tried it myself.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Mike Hammett 
> mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net>>
> wrote:
>> How is it junk? IIRC, everyone I've asked that claimed a given 900 MHz
>> system was junk had a poor RF environment.
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>> 
>> From: "Erik Anderson" 
>> mailto:erik.ander...@hocking.net>>
>> To: "WISPA General List" mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
>> Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 8:49:55 AM
>>
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Latest trend for heavy wooded areas
>>
>> 98% of our terrain is heavily wooded. Ubiquiti 900 is junk (but their
>> other
>> products perform quite well when they can be used). Cambium 900 is better.
>> Out limited experience with whitespace has been good. All of these
>> technologies 

Re: [WISPA] Latest trend for heavy wooded areas

[Steve Barnes]

But Mike that is the Rub. All things are never the same.  900 is dirty and 
Susceptible to so much noise and reflection because the signal does not die as 
quick.  I understand the “Theory” but still have a hard time understanding how 
a slower carrier wave (900MHz) can carry the same Data as 5800MHz carrier wave 
but I know that it could in a vacuum. The issue is we don’t live in a vacuum.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCSWIN.com
Howard LLC.

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 3:28 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Latest trend for heavy wooded areas

900 will move the same amount as data as 2.4, 3.65 and 5 GHz with all else 
being the same.

If your throughput is low, you have too little signal for the noise you're 
seeing.


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


From: "Sam Tetherow" mailto:tethe...@shwisp.net>>
To: "WISPA General List" mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 2:13:52 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Latest trend for heavy wooded areas
I don't have anything to compare it to other than Tranzeo 900, but I have had 
decent results with it.  It obviously won't push the throughput that 5G or even 
2.4G will, even with the same channel sizes, but UBNT salvaged most of my 900 
customers when the Tranzeo gear started running into problems.


On 08/22/2013 09:03 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
How is it junk? IIRC, everyone I've asked that claimed a given 900 MHz system 
was junk had a poor RF environment.


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


From: "Erik Anderson" 
<mailto:erik.ander...@hocking.net>
To: "WISPA General List" <mailto:wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 8:49:55 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Latest trend for heavy wooded areas
98% of our terrain is heavily wooded. Ubiquiti 900 is junk (but their other 
products perform quite well when they can be used). Cambium 900 is better. Out 
limited experience with whitespace has been good. All of these technologies 
have very low bandwidth.

On 8/22/2013 12:04 AM, Chris Fabien wrote:
What are you guys deploying lately in heavily wooded areas? We've used both 
Cambium pmp320 Wimax and UBNT M900, with mixed results on both. We just put up 
a 130ft tower in a heavily wooded river valley area, leaning towards the UBNT 
solution but hate putting money into something I'm not really satisfied with.



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Re: [WISPA] Setting up Nanostations

[Steve Barnes]

Had this issue a few weeks ago.  Had to down flash the firmware then upgrade to 
get it working.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCSWIN.com
Howard LLC.

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of ~NGL~
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 2:35 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Setting up Nanostations

No auto filling Yes Incognito Tab
This is  setup on a radio only basis No Network.

New Chrome installation.
NGL
From: Josh Luthman<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 11:19 AM
To: WISPA General List<mailto:wireless@wispa.org>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Setting up Nanostations

It also kind of sounds like you might have two devices with the same IP (hence 
the login requirement again).


Josh Luthman
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Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Josh Luthman 
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:
Is it auto filling?  Did you use an Incognito Tab?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 2:15 PM, ~NGL~ mailto:n...@ngl.net>> 
wrote:
Same results with Chrome.
What now?
NGL
From: Josh Luthman<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 10:08 AM
To: WISPA General List<mailto:wireless@wispa.org>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Setting up Nanostations

Try Chrome.  If it fixes it, that's your problem.  If it doesn't, there are 
other things you can try.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 1:03 PM, ~NGL~ mailto:n...@ngl.net>> 
wrote:
I have been using IE on all makes of radios for several years with no problem. 
If I have to I will.
NGL
From: Mike Hammett<mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net>
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 9:55 AM
To: WISPA General List<mailto:wireless@wispa.org>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Setting up Nanostations

On purpose?


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


From: "~NGL~" mailto:n...@ngl.net>>
To: "WISPA General List" mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 11:56:51 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Setting up Nanostations
IE 8
From: Josh Luthman<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 9:54 AM
To: WISPA General List<mailto:wireless@wispa.org>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Setting up Nanostations

What browser are you using?

Try Chrome in Incognito mode, see if you can reproduce it there.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 12:53 PM, ~NGL~ mailto:n...@ngl.net>> 
wrote:
I have 2 Nanostations M2 that will not save a SSID change. When I change it 
click on change, then apply and click on the Main tab it goes to the login 
page. I login and the SSID is back to the default.
What is going on?
NGL
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Re: [WISPA] Good source for refurb Juniper?

[Steve Barnes]

I still have one company that uses it every 5 min for in office IM


Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCSWIN.com
Howard LLC.

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 2:55 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Good source for refurb Juniper?

I thought AIM was shut down a while back?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Kristian Hoffmann 
mailto:kh...@fire2wire.com>> wrote:
Sig is from an email a week ago.  Steve is old school I guess.

-Kristian


On 11/20/2013 11:51 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
How old is that information?!  It has an AIM account!!!


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Kristian Hoffmann 
mailto:kh...@fire2wire.com>> wrote:
Don't know about Juniper, but I've gotten Cisco and old Marconi gear from these 
guys...

Steve Morrow
Sales Manager
Genesis Global Inc. -Network Equipment up to 99% off List Price!
Nationwide Tel. - 1-800-908-9665, x105
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AOL IM - GenesisGSteve



On 11/20/2013 11:43 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:
We are in the market for possibly 2 MX240 units, any good sources for 
refurb/used Juniper gear?

Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com<mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
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Re: [WISPA] possible frozen antenna

[Steve Barnes]

They get condensation in them and they can leak down into the RF connector.  
Just had one in here that was taken down that was leaking.  Visually looked 
perfect.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of heith petersen
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2014 10:58 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] possible frozen antenna

http://www.l-com.com/wireless-antenna-24-ghz-15-dbi-omnidirectional-antenna-n-female-connector

I have attached a link for an antenna we commonly use on our Canopy PMP100 2.4 
Omnis. I have an issue with an AP where everyone has decent signal but 
throughput is suffering (decent down capacity, crappy up capacity). Usually I 
have never had ice on these antennas. I did however use to have an icing issue 
on a smoother 5.7 AP 4 winters ago where I de-iced a few times a day, maybe a 
total of 20 times that season, on the same tower. This antenna has a rough 
texture, but I have never, that I know of, had an ice issue on it before. I 
have a guy trying to determine from the ground if he can detect ice, but it’s a 
175 foot climb. It’s a better day than today to climb for sure

anyways, just curious if others who may use this antenna has had the issue

thanks
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Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box

[Steve Barnes]

Scott does not have the same issues due to using Mikrotik in mostly metal 
cases.  The ESD of Plastic cases makes it so that you need the drain wire to 
protect the ports.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of heith petersen
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 9:02 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box

Are you using the unshielded for UBNT installs? I have started to to avoid 
radio defaulting due to crap cable install. Well, I havent seen the cables 
myself but they were unshielded and may have taken a surge of sorts.

From: Scott Reed<mailto:sr...@nwwnet.net>
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 6:31 AM
To: WISPA General List<mailto:wireless@wispa.org>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box

Shireen, unshield, no gel for installations.
Shireen, shielded, no gel for towers.
On 1/22/2014 9:20 PM, timothy steele wrote:
I've used shireen cable I will +1 that's good cable.. I've also heard of guys 
making there own reusable spindle holder box so you can use same cable for 
towers and installs so there is that option
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On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 9:12 PM, Josh Reynolds 
mailto:j...@spitwspots.com>> wrote:
UBNT toughcable pro/carrier and/or Shireen is all we use
Josh Reynolds :: Chief Information Officer :: SPITwSPOTS
:: Ubiquiti Certified AirMax Trainer ::
On 01/22/2014 04:30 PM, heith petersen wrote:
Just looking for what others are using for boxed cable shielded that simple or 
easy for customer installs. We use a certain cable now, buts on rolls, which is 
ideal for towers, but a pain in the ass for installs. I heard UBNT stuff is 
better, but the partners are upset from the BS from earlier go arounds

thanks
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Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box

[Steve Barnes]

I don’t see them bringing the price down.  With the ease of the tab they are 
worth it. Try to find another good quality  shielded cat5e end for $.45 each.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of timothy steele
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2014 1:48 PM
To: WISPA General List
Cc: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box

I hope bringing the price down on the tough RJ-45's will be a topic from UBNT 
at AF
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On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 12:46 PM, Dan Petermann 
mailto:d...@wyoming.com>> wrote:

We do too
On Jan 28, 2014, at 10:35 AM, Josh Luthman 
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:


Me


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 11:35 AM, timothy steele 
mailto:timothy.pct...@gmail.com>> wrote:
How many of you are using the tough RJ-45 ends (UBNT) with your shielded cable?
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On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 10:36 AM, Jeremy 
mailto:jeremysmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
We use Shireen shielded for both towers and installs.

On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Marlon Schafer 
(509.982.2181) 
mailto:o...@odessaoffice.com>> wrote:
That says gel filled.  the other is a dry “gel”.

marlon


From: Kevin Owen<mailto:ko...@fsr.com>
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 10:28 AM
To: WISPA General List<mailto:wireless@wispa.org>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box

Here is the product I ordered after being pointed there by Scott.


[https://www.shireeninc.com/osc/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/50x/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/d/c/dc-1041_2.gif]

Outdoor CAT5e FTP Shielded - Gel Filled - Outer Jacket - 1000ft Spool

DC-1041


Kevin


From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>] On 
Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 10:23 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box

INTERESTING!

I didn't know shireen made a shielded version. That's one reason we've only 
used the d-gel for very certain things. It's not listed on our primary vendor's 
site (streakwave).

Thanks for the find/info!
Josh Reynolds :: Chief Information Officer :: SPITwSPOTS
:: Ubiquiti Certified AirMax Trainer ::
On 01/24/2014 08:48 AM, Scott Reed wrote:
You can get it either way, shielded or not.
Compare them here: https://www.shireeninc.com/osc/cables/cat5e.html
On 1/24/2014 12:43 PM, Kevin Owen wrote:
Marlon,

Is the Shireen Dry Gel cable also shielded?  Do you have a part/product # for 
it?

Thanks,

Kevin


From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon Schafer 
(509.982.2181)
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 4:42 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box

Have you tried the Shireen dry gel?  I’m addicted.

Stays dry and easy to work with until it gets wet.  IF there’s a problem that 
allows liquid into the cable it self seals the hole.  Pretty cool stuff.

I do wish they had a better packaging system.  I really miss the “rabbit pull” 
mechanism that my indoor cable uses.

marlon


From: Scott Reed<mailto:sr...@nwwnet.net>
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 4:31 AM
To: WISPA General List<mailto:wireless@wispa.org>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box

Shireen, unshield, no gel for installations.
Shireen, shielded, no gel for towers.
On 1/22/2014 9:20 PM, timothy steele wrote:
I've used shireen cable I will +1 that's good cable.. I've also heard of guys 
making there own reusable spindle holder box so you can use same cable for 
towers and installs so there is that option
—
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On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 9:12 PM, Josh Reynolds 
mailto:j...@spitwspots.com>> wrote:
UBNT toughcable pro/carrier and/or Shireen is all we use
Josh Reynolds :: Chief Information Officer :: SPITwSPOTS
:: Ubiquiti Certified AirMax Trainer ::
On 01/22/2014 04:30 PM, heith petersen wrote:
Just looking for what others are using for boxed cable shielded that simple or 
easy for customer installs. We use a certain cable now, buts on rolls, which is 
ideal for towers, but a pain in the ass for installs. I heard UBNT stuff is 
better, but the partners are upset from the BS from earlier go arounds

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Re: [WISPA] AT&T MIS Throughput

[Steve Barnes]

Roger are you looking at your router while you are doing these speed tests.  If 
you are already pushing out doing 60 Meg of traffic then you cant add another 
100 on top of that .

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCSWIN.com
Howard LLC.

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Roger Howard
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 11:55 AM
Cc: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] AT&T MIS Throughput

What about this one? I just got 23Mbps down and 66 up.

http://www.att.com/speedtest/

On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Zach Mann 
mailto:zma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
It's hard to trust a random server on speedtest dot net.   If Att has their own 
server on that site I would expect similar results as the Att test being it's 
on the same network


On Monday, February 24, 2014, Roger Howard 
mailto:g5inter...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi,

I can max out my 100Mbps fiber connection by uploading 10 files simultaneously 
to an AT&T test server. But single stream speed tests like 
speedtest.net<http://speedtest.net> and 
speakeasy.net/speedtest<http://speakeasy.net/speedtest> seem to be all over the 
place. like sometimes less than 10mbps, sometimes more than 50mbps. Is it just 
me, or do those test sites do that for everyone?

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Re: [WISPA] AT&T MIS Throughput

[Steve Barnes]

How is your CPU on your router?  65 mbps sounds low for sure.  If you are on a 
100 Mbps circuit have you ever plugged a PC in directly and made sure you are 
getting the speed. With 100 M setup 92 is about the Max but you have a long way 
to get to there.   What type of router?

Things to look at:
Router CPU Load (while running test)
Queues setup wrong
Poor cable between upstream and router.
Wrong Handshaking from upstream.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCSWIN.com
Howard LLC.

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Roger Howard
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 12:18 PM
Cc: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] AT&T MIS Throughput

Yes, it's doing around 20-25mbps download right now, and less than 3 megs on 
the upload. When I'm running the test, the download speed on the router climbs 
to about 50mbps.

On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Steve Barnes 
mailto:st...@pcswin.com>> wrote:
Roger are you looking at your router while you are doing these speed tests.  If 
you are already pushing out doing 60 Meg of traffic then you cant add another 
100 on top of that .

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCSWIN.com
Howard LLC.

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>] On 
Behalf Of Roger Howard
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 11:55 AM
Cc: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] AT&T MIS Throughput

What about this one? I just got 23Mbps down and 66 up.

http://www.att.com/speedtest/

On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Zach Mann 
mailto:zma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
It's hard to trust a random server on speedtest dot net.   If Att has their own 
server on that site I would expect similar results as the Att test being it's 
on the same network


On Monday, February 24, 2014, Roger Howard 
mailto:g5inter...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi,

I can max out my 100Mbps fiber connection by uploading 10 files simultaneously 
to an AT&T test server. But single stream speed tests like 
speedtest.net<http://speedtest.net> and 
speakeasy.net/speedtest<http://speakeasy.net/speedtest> seem to be all over the 
place. like sometimes less than 10mbps, sometimes more than 50mbps. Is it just 
me, or do those test sites do that for everyone?


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Re: [WISPA] Tower Seminars?

[Steve Barnes]

WISPAmerica has opportunities for some of what you are looking for.

http://www.wispamerica.net/


Steve Barnes
General Manager
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Howard LLC.

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Isaac Wilder
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 11:27 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Tower Seminars?

Long time subscriber, first time poster.

My name is Isaac Wilder. I'm one of the cofounders of the Free Network 
Foundation, an NGO that supports user-owned telecommunications systems.

I'm writing to ask if any of you have recommendations for seminars/cert 
programs for tower engineering (calculating loads, ballasts, guy tension, 
assembly, grounding, testing). I am in the Kansas City area, but could travel 
for the seminar. Something that ended with a cert would be a plus, but the key 
thing is the know-how.

Also interested in climbing/rigging programs.

If I could get both in one place, that would be great, but it's not a 
requirement.
We're a small org, and operate on a shoestring, so price is a factor, but 
obviously safety/quality comes first.

Looking for reccomendations, but would also like to know if there are folks to 
avoid.
Any guidance you can give would be greatly appreciated.


with gratitude,
Isaac Wilder
Director, The Free Network Foundation
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Re: [WISPA] remote employee

[Steve Barnes]

You need to consider talking to an Employment Lawyer.  Consider Doug Haas.

Timeclock is a NO NO.
You setting his schedule is a NO NO.

Contractor = Plumber
You hire them for a job.  He can bill you by the hour and you can agree on a 
time but you cannot control his time and you do not provide him with his tools. 
 The job he is to do is all he is to do not whatever you tell him to do.

http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/independent-contractor-or-employee-government-decision-29681.html

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCSWIN.com
Howard LLC.

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of heith petersen
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 1:39 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] remote employee

So, we finally got our former local tech set up at his office at his new home 3 
hours away. He has tunnel access into our net, access to billing and his VoIP 
phone tied to our switch to make and receive calls on our local lines, just 
like he did when he sat 10 feet from me. So next is to fine tune things.

We dumped him as a regular employee and moved to contract labor with no 
benefits, basically bumped him to a level where his pay per hour covered what 
he received via benefits, like insurance and vacation. Makes it easier for the 
accountant as she just cuts a check and doesn’t have to deduct taxes, however 
it now becomes his responsibility to claim wages and pay the taxes.

What we are working on now is management. My boss wants him to log everything 
he does and pay from there, but to me that seems to be a lot of work. We have a 
web based time clock, but I already have issues with techs forgetting to clock 
in or clock out, I cant imagine it would be better having a guy clock out after 
every single support call. Our phone system can log time on the phone and where 
the calls went to, but of course a guy can be busy updating firmware and 
re-configuring equipment without being on the phone.

The guy really only wants to clock 4 hours a day, but I need him available off 
an on during the day. He is unique and he could sit at home all day. I would 
almost just pay him 4 hours flat a day to sit and have him there and available, 
but the bosses want to pay him for only what he works, which I think puts more 
load on us deciphering logs to see what he actually worked.

Anyways kind of a first for us, and maybe a last. Just wondering what others, 
if any, have done. I don’t want to lose the guy because he takes care of a lot 
of stuff when I am gone and I don’t have to train him.

thanks
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Re: [WISPA] OT Time Clocks...

[Steve Barnes]

ADP offers a full line of online time tracking.  You pay for it though, through 
the nose.

But they then do it all.  Fed, State, and local taxes paid on time by them.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
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Howard LLC.

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Kristian Hoffmann
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 9:42 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT Time Clocks...

Check out TimeTrex.  There's a free/community edition, and the paid version is 
pretty reasonable and has an Android/iOS app, job costing, etc.  The setup, 
especially if you have to shoehorn existing policies into it, can be a little 
arduous.  But after that, it just works.

hth,

-Kristian

On 03/31/2014 03:39 PM, Bob Moldashel wrote:
> OK  This is a little off topic as far as wireless goes but
>
> I am looking for a time clock to keep track of employee time. 
> Presently we are on the honor system (and I don't have a problem with 
> that...just too much manual labor for the bookkeeper) and they mark 
> down their own time on a sheet.  At the end of the pay period someone 
> has to retrieve their time sheets, fax them to the office, and then 
> add up the time, enter into Quickbooks and then print payroll.  The 
> crews turn out at a remote site that is not part of the main office.
>
> Its time to work smarter not harder.
>
> I am looking for a time clock that can be connected to the Internet at 
> the warehouse and all time info will be accessible remotely.
>
> Anyone have any suggestions?
>
> Tnx
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Re: [WISPA] Rocket AP through put

[Steve Barnes]

Call Procera and tell them you are having bottlenecks. Is not this the very 
thing they are supposed to not allow.

Steve Barnes
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Art Stephens
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 11:06 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rocket AP through put

Well we have a routed network with Procera at the connection to internet doing 
the shaping.
Over 2500 subs on over 125 APs with a Gig pipe to the internet.
Our back bones are either fiber or 300M licensed links

Hope that helps

On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 8:52 PM, Faisal Imtiaz 
mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net>> wrote:
My guess is that you are running out of PPS capacity (packets per second).

Video tends to be smaller packets in size but larger number in quantity...

So, here come a lot of if's and's or buts.

How do the other folks (Wisp's) Manage this issue. ?

 Lots of different ways, but before you dive into that.. you will have to 
describe your network a bit

Bridged ? Routed ?
What is doing Traffic Shaping ?

How many AP's/ Pop ? what is the Backhaul ? etc.

I wish there was a simple answer for the problem you are describing..

:)

Regards.


Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: 
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From: "Art Stephens" mailto:asteph...@ptera.com>>
To: "WISPA General List" mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 5:50:07 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Rocket AP through put

Looking for some feed back concerning Rocket APs. We have quite a few of these 
in the field with UBNT Sectors and KPerformance Sectors.

What we run into is customer complaints about slow speeds at night when they 
call into after hours support. We come in the next day and run speed tests to 
the radios and they look ok.

Some APs have 20 subs and some as high as 50 subs.

Yesterday one of our employees ran speed tests from his home connected to one 
of those APs during the day and he got 15M. Then that evening he tried to watch 
Netflix - biggest complaint from most subs - and it would not start. He ran a 
speed test and got 500K. The AP he is connected to has 19 subs.

Trying to figure out just how many subs streaming on an AP will bring the 
through put down to 500K?

We are considering limiting how many streams can run on a given AP but need to 
figure where the breaking point is if that makes any sense.

Thanks for any insight any one can shed on this.

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PO Box 135
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Re: [WISPA] Shielded enclosure for Rockets

[Steve Barnes]

http://www.rfelements.com/en/products/shields/rockshield/

Not sure how close they are to being in distribution.  They were showing them 
at Little Rock.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
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Howard LLC.

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 3:17 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Shielded enclosure for Rockets

I'm using non Ubnt antennas and looking for a shielded enclosure where I can 
mount a Rocket easier.  Right now I'm using the same thing for MTs:

http://www.streakwave.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=SBX-ALU

This box doesn't have an easier mount for a Rocket and overall a bit 
clumsy/heavy for a Rocket.

I'm not using Rocket Titaniums at this time.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
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Re: [WISPA] Power Airfiber via alternate port?

[Steve Barnes]

Gino, I don't think so.  I think I tried with the last set and had no luck.  
Sent email to Matt Hardy or Ben Moore for sure.  Post to 
ubnt_us...@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_us...@wispa.org> they roam there sometime.


Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCSWIN.com
Howard LLC.

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 2:42 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Power Airfiber via alternate port?

Does the AF24 supports POE on the mngmt port? Got a situation where I need to 
power the AF24 via another port... not on the data port



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Re: [WISPA] Google luring Business Market with Wifi gear?

[Steve Barnes]

The future is going to be interesting for sure.

A few questions come to mind.
Is there a business model where WISP's can partner with a Google or Microsoft 
to help advance our offerings or would you be just selling your soul to Satan.
How do you compete against that level of investment if they start putting up 
hotspots to offload from the LTE networks in your area since that will most 
likely destroy 2.4 and 5.7-8 bands.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCSWIN.com
Howard LLC.

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To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Google luring Business Market with Wifi gear?

http://gigaom.com/2014/05/21/google-reportedly-plans-to-target-businesses-with-wi-fi/?



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Re: [WISPA] Sales Tax

[Steve Barnes]

You can also ask them for a letter of determination. It may take them a while 
to get it to you but with that you are covered.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCSWIN.com
Howard LLC.

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Faisal Imtiaz
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2014 9:57 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sales Tax


--
Under the grandfather clause included in the Internet Tax Freedom Act, Texas is 
currently collecting a tax on Internet access charges over $25.00 per month. 
Texas collected tax on internet access prior to the enactment of ITFA under the 
"Taxables Services" provision of its Tax Code, see older § 151.0101(a). Texas 
has refined its tax code to define "Internet access service", include it under 
"Taxable Services" and exempted the first $25.00 on a monthly basis, See 
current Texas Tax Code § 151.325 & 151.0101(a)
---

and also listed in detail...

http://info.sos.state.tx.us/pls/pub/readtac$ext.TacPage?sl=T&app=9&p_dir=N&p_rloc=166385&p_tloc=14689&p_ploc=1&pg=2&p_tac=&ti=34&pt=&ch=3&rl=365

-

Don't be afraid of picking up the phone and calling the State's Tax Dept. and 
speaking with their Legal Staff, for guidance, they are obligated to assist you 
with the info, and they cannot hold your questions against you.

That is one of the best ways to get accurate legal advice at no charge / cost 
to you.





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Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

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- Original Message -
> From: "Sam" 
> To: wireless@wispa.org
> Sent: Wednesday, June 4, 2014 7:52:34 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sales Tax
> 
> Thank you to everyone for your thoughts about my question. If any of 
> you are in Texas or New Mexico, are you currently collecting taxes 
> from your customers? I'm reading online that the first $25 of service 
> fees are exempt from taxes, meaning (if I'm understanding this 
> correctly) that it you charge say $40 a month, you'd have to collect 
> sales tax on $15 of that charge. Or is that not the way it works?
> 
> Thanks again everyone! (Hope everyone in the Midwest made it through 
> that storm last night we had 114 MPH straight-line winds in and 
> all around Omaha NE.
> 
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[WISPA] IPv6 Real or Bust?

[Steve Barnes]

Fred, I thought about posting back to you all day yesterday and finally decided 
to. 

I agree that there will always be some sort of IPV4 out and available. They are 
constantly trying to get universities who were given huge blocks that have used 
less than 5% to relinquish parts of it.  But as Tom DeReggi has stated that 
there is other benefits. I am not excited about being a bleeding edge adopter 
but I am looking forward to more training on this issue and being prepared for 
when there is a benefit for my clients.  

The reason I take this stance is I have been in the computer industry for 26 
years.  I know almost ever DOS command there is and can still write a pretty 
mean batch file menu system if needed in a pinch.  One day my largest client at 
that time with 100 workstations and the new Novel 2.15 server asked me what I 
thought about this new Windows 2.86 software. I told him that it was all a fad 
why would you want to rum more than lotus 123 and WordPerfect. When Windows 3.0 
came out I got a copy and started playing with it and I thought I might be 
wrong.  I setup a meeting with that large company and told them I was wrong.  
They informed me that they already knew that and due to my short sidedness they 
had just signed a service agreement with another company.  I lost a company 
that I had made $150K off of the previous year.  I vowed to never look at 
future possibilities the same. 

Y2K was a bust but I made lots of money giving lectures telling people that I 
had no idea what was going to be happening but that all organizations needed to 
plan for emergencies and have back plans whether it was Y2K, a fire, an Ice 
storm, or a tornado.  

Same goes with IPV6.  I am not sure what will happen or if it even will.  But I 
need to have a plan to be ready no matter what comes.  The federal government 
has set a directive to make all their networks IPV6 compliant by next year I 
believe.  So if I want to be able to service their traffic then I have to have 
it.

Steve Barnes
RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Fred Goldstein
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 12:37 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone running MT RB-750, UBNT gear doing IPv6?

At 1/13/2011 11:59 AM, you wrote:
> >>I've got a small network with a MT RB-750 and UBNT (PS2's, NSL2's, 
> >>NSLM5's, NSM5's and a BulletM2) and I'm wondering how we're going to 
> >>fair if/when our upstream throws the switch on IPv6. I'd like to 
> >>hear someone else is already doing it.
> >>
> >>Our "upstream" apparently is Hughesnet being resold in South 
> >>America. I'm not sure if their system/our modem is IPv6 
> >>capable/ready. That may keep us on IPv4 and tunneled/nat'ed to IPv6 
> >>for some time.
> >
> > Personal opinion:  IPv6 is worth less than the paper its RFC is 
> > printed on. Ignore it and it will go away.  Really.
>
>I am very concerned being that only 2 percent of the IPv4 pool remains.
>
>http://ipv6.he.net/statistics/
>
>In a few months we may not be able to get more IPv4 space.  What then?
>  NAT everyone?  Ugh, with thousands of custommers thats an ugly 
>proposition.  How do you track down abuse, subpoena issues and so many 
>other things...

That's Y2K redux, a fear campaign.  HE in particular is trying to use it as a 
differentiator.  What is running out is virgin, never-before-assigned IPv4 
space.  It is like the land offices in the homestead era.  Eventually they ran 
out of land.  Yet farming continued.

IPv4 addresses were initially handed out very inefficiently.  There are many 
owners of blocks that are larger than needed.  If you are qualified for a 
block, you are qualified to buy a block from someone who already has one.  A 
market will happen, and I don't think it will be very expensive.

Nor am I too concerned about NAT.  NAT only breaks broken applications.  Public 
servers need public addresses, but the mass market user doesn't.  (Inability to 
handle subpoenas may be seen as an advantage...)

Check out the Pouzin Society for an alternative. I've got some more on this on 
my web site.

> > If one of your subscribers really needs to reach something only 
> > accessible via IPv6, they can tunnel out.  But since there is no 
> > compatibility, the "transition" plan requires dual stack.  So 
> > everything runs v4 until everybody is on v6.  But since there's 
> > always more on v4 (everybody) than on v6 (those who have added the 
> > dual stack), there's no incentive for users to move to v4.  The only 
> > benefit is to some ISPs, not to users.  So users have little reason 
> > to move.  (Sometimes users are sma

Re: [WISPA] new list

[Steve Barnes]

Not sure of the reason for this Post here.  Isn't the wireless@wispa.org a free 
non-vendor specific list?  Is this a post to pull users from WISPA?

Steve Barnes


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 11:36 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] new list

Hi,

In an effort to create a neutral discussion forum, a new mailing list has been 
created called Wireless Users Group. This list is 100% free, and is not tied to 
any product or service being sold. It is hosted on a free server, with free 
bandwidth and free administration. No fees or vendor sponsorship will ever be 
asked by this new list.

To subscribe to this new list, send an email to users-requ...@wug.cc with 
"subscribe" in the subject field.

We support many of the wireless pioneers in this industry such as Motorola, 
Wireless Beehive, and WISPA. We would just prefer a vendor neutral list that 
allows discussion of any product (whether good or bad) so that we can all learn.

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Re: [WISPA] new list

[Steve Barnes]

That is my concern as well.  I actually just looked at the public WISPA list 
for the first time today in a week.  I prefer to post to the specific WISPA 
Manufacture or Membership lists and avoid the non-member list as much as 
possible.  I do get some good info there from time to time. But this new list 
being posted on an already free public forum bothered me.  

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-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Charles N Wyble
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 1:12 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] new list

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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Um people bash WISPA on this list occasionally. It's usually not warranted. 
There are a few trolls that like to make trouble. Why do you feel that we can't 
bash WISPA on this list? If there are legitimate concerns with the 
organization, and one feels they are a threat to the industry, then voice them.

Also going on a list and complaining usually doesn't get anything done.
It just wastes peoples time and bandwidth. If someone has constructive 
criticism, and a well reasoned argument/position, that will get something done.

I've subscribed to the WUG list. Hopefully it will be interesting and not a 
waste of time, however I will probably start various new threads on the WISPA 
list, as it has served my and many others needs quite well.
I've been on the list since 2008 and been very happy with it. Numerous 
products/services/organizations have been praised when necessary, and called 
out when necessary. So I'm not quite sure the purpose of the WUG list.

We will see what the WUG list does. My initial feelings, is that it will be a 
fringe list that ends up doing a lot of harm to the industry.
Journalists will see lots of trolling and pick that out as the face of the 
industry, because it makes better material for the sensationalist media.

I realize that as business owners, we have very strong opinions and value our 
independence and rights. However we must also keep in mind that we as an 
industry are under attack on a continuous basis. WISPA has provided a focal 
point for us to coalesce around as an industry. They have continuously shown a 
deep understanding of how to keep the industry growing. They have produced a 
number of products (3.65 regs, whitespaces, dfrs etc.) These end products take 
substantial amounts of time and effort to produce. They have seen how the 
sausage is made, and not been afraid to get their hands dirty.

I hope to join WISPA in the near future and contribute my support. I've been 
slowly ramping up my WISP and preparing to roll out a broad beta.

I should get back to that now, have a demo due by the end of the week

On 01/24/2011 09:29 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
> To be entirely neutral.  We can't bash WISPA if we wanted to, for example.
> We can't bash a company that is affiliated with WISPA.  Probably not 
> the best example, but this way we are entirely free to do what we want.
> 
> Josh Luthman
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> 
> 
> On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Steve Barnes  wrote:
> 
>> Not sure of the reason for this Post here.  Isn't the 
>> wireless@wispa.org a free non-vendor specific list?  Is this a post to pull 
>> users from WISPA?
>>
>> Steve Barnes
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
>> On Behalf Of Travis Johnson
>> Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 11:36 AM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: [WISPA] new list
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> In an effort to create a neutral discussion forum, a new mailing list 
>> has been created called Wireless Users Group. This list is 100% free, 
>> and is not tied to any product or service being sold. It is hosted on 
>> a free server, with free bandwidth and free administration. No fees 
>> or vendor sponsorship will ever be asked by this new list.
>>
>> To subscribe to this new list, send an email to users-requ...@wug.cc 
>> with "subscribe" in the subject field.
>>
>> We support many of the wireless pioneers in this industry such as 
>> Motorola, Wireless Beehive, and WISPA. We would just prefer a vendor 
>> neutral list that allows discussion of any product (whether good or 
>> bad) so that we can all learn.
>>
>> __
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>>
>>
>>
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Re: [WISPA] NSM2 & StarOS

[Steve Barnes]

The only way that I could make UBNT even connect to a StarOS AP was to be in 
20Mhz channels and set the RTS as high as possible.  Then it worked very 
poorly.  Best thing I ever did was pull all my StarOS off the towers and go to 
Mikrotik for my AP's.   Now looking at switching certain towers to UBNT Rockets 
/gps when they come out to get cleaner air and more throughput. 

Steve Barnes
RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service


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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Roger Howard
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 11:13 AM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] NSM2 & StarOS

So I've heard of several people now who are running StarOS APs who have started 
to use Ubiquiti products for CPE. I've tried several times and the NSM2 won't 
connect. What am I doing wrong?

I understand Aggregate needs to be turned off on the CPE.

I'm running 1.5.15.3b on the AP and I'm running 5.3 on the CPE.

I'm using 10Mhz channels.

I can see the AP in a site survey, but it won't associate.

I've tried turning off superA/G and other special features on the AP.

Can anyone think what I'm missing?

Thanks,
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Re: [WISPA] query for the list

[Steve Barnes]

May I suggest that you use the following WISPA Lookup.  
http://www.batchgeo.com/map/?i=fa0332971a0356b5fc6eb2e4e2cbd637&q=

If you put the zip or address in the upper right hand search it will give you 
the WISPA Members in that area that may be able to service you.

Or as stated earlier contact Rick Harnish.

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Chris Stradtman
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 11:23 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] query for the list

I didn't mean standard monthly rate. I fully expect these one offs to be rather 
lucrative for the ISP.  I just meant that legally we can't really commit to a 
year long install on a venue that we're only going to be in for a week or two.

Chris Stradtman



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On Mar 16, 2011, at 11:09 AM, Cameron Crum 
mailto:cc...@wispmon.com>> wrote:
We all know what bandwidth costs are like at these shows for vendors. If you 
don't, the last big show I attended as a vendor cost $1500 for 1.5M for 2 days. 
Very few shows are as friendly as WISPA regionals and MUMs to vendors. I would 
say if you are willing to revenue share some of that, you might get a bit more 
interest. Otherwise, a month of service fees is probably not worth the headache 
for most WISPs.

Cameron
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Mike Hammett 
mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
I would love to drop that kind of bandwidth in on an on-demand basis.
Unfortunately, there aren't (m)any of those venue types in my area.

-
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On 3/15/2011 8:17 PM, Chris Stradtman wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> This may not be the right place for this query, but if it's not I'm
> hoping someone will point me in the correct direction.
>
> I'm not actually a WISP, however on a regular basis I could use
> service from WISPs.
>
> We do network professional services for tradeshows and other events.
> Many times I could really use a wireless backup link to venues that
> just have one terrestrial link (or indeed sometimes we could use the
> wireless as the primary link).  Typically these events need
> connectivity for between 2 days and 2 weeks.  We're willing to pay for
> up to a month's service even if we only need it for 2 days, however
> for obvious reasons full year contracts are out of the question.  We
> typically know months ahead of time where the location is (once and a
> great while we will only get 2 weeks warning).  Bandwidth demands can
> vary between 5M and 1G depending on a lot of factors.
>
> Typically the information we would get would be something like
>
> somebuilding
> 123 Anywhere Street
> sometown, somestate X
> bandwith = 10M burstable to 50M
>
> for example.
>
> My question is: Is this an appropriate place to post the requests, or
> if not, where could we post requests to get exposure to potentially
> interested WISPs??
>
> We've found that just doing a web search for WISPs in the area and
> repetitive phone calls to yield a close to 0 success rate.  I do
> understand that not every WISP is going to be interested in this sort
> of business.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Chris Stradtman
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] Orlando Arrivals?

[Steve Barnes]

Justin arriving about 5:30 and have rented a car.


From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Justin Wilson
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 10:21 AM
To: WISPA General List; Chuck Hogg
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Orlando Arrivals?

FYI. A taxi ride is $80+ or so a web-site says.


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From: Chuck Hogg mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com>>
Reply-To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 10:08:30 -0400
To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Orlando Arrivals?

I don't get in until 8pm.  If someone wants a ride at that time, I can help out.

Regards,

Chuck

On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Justin Wilson 
mailto:li...@mtin.net>> wrote:
Anyone arriving at the Orlando airport around 1-3 I could hitch a ride with?  
Don't want to pay $100 a day for a rental car if I can avoid it to get from the 
airport.

Thanks,
Justin
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Re: [WISPA] Question about hosting client's POS merchant account for credit card processing

[Steve Barnes]

Contact Charles WU at CTI they would have about all info you need on PCI

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Ben West
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 8:15 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Question about hosting client's POS merchant account for 
credit card processing

I am curious if anyone has experience providing wireless service to small 
businesses who use a POS credit card system.

My own chats with various small biz owners here in St. Louis suggests that 
their merchant account providers tend to expect a twisted-pair phone line 
and/or dedicated DSL/cable, no wireless.

I imagine this may vary depending on who actually provides the merchant 
account, but has anyone received feedback from such providers about their 
expectations for serving the credit card machines wireless?  E.g. must you use 
dedicated, encrypted wireless links (as common sense would suggest), and/or 
VPNs, or must the POS machine sit on a dedicated LAN, etc?

Thanks.

P.S. By POS I mean Point of Sale, to avoid any confusion. ;)

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[WISPA] Rope

[Steve Barnes]

Looking at rope to winch equipment (antennas, Boxes, etc) to top of towers None 
over 275' nothing more than 100 Lbs.

Couple Questions.

What Rope do you prefer and size and what length do you recommend?  I have a 
400Ft Spool of 3/8 Poly double braided but its not long enough.

How do you store your rope for transport to keep it untangled.

What do you use as a throw line to get the rope to the top.   Most of my towers 
the climber cant pull to the top.

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Re: [WISPA] Rope

[Steve Barnes]

Scott, in our area a throw rope is most important.  90% of all my towers are 
grain legs with cages and some go up to one level and around to another ladder 
on another area.  Pulling a rope just doesn't work.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN/RC-WiFi<http://www.rcwifi.com/>

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Scott Carullo
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 11:07 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rope

You can get cheaper rope, but if you want the best call bluewater and have them 
cut you whatever length you want (they make the stuff).  Get Bluewater II plus 
static rope about 200M (656ft) that will handle everything you are doing and 
last longer than you need it if you take care of it.  We keep ours in trash 
cans like some of the others have mentioned (get the good rubbermaid cans not 
the cheapies they break)



don't store it wet and try to keep it out of the dirt, for the most part it 
should go out of and into the bucket.



Get a truck winch from midwest unlimited (capstain) and you will forever thank 
yourself.



You do not need another rope to pull up this one.  Just put a loop in the end 
have your climbers climb up with it hanging down.  We've gone over 400ft up 
without problems this way.  You can control where the rope goes too, throwing a 
bag and hoping for the best doesn't seem like a good idea to me.  Carry it up 
put it right where you want it.  Theres lots of tricks, don't have time to 
share them now.  Just make sure the guy taking the rope has an appropriate 
weight (at least 5lbs - use lead deep fishing weight) and they need a pully, 
strap and carabiner.  Then you are in business.



I don't like dynamic (or normal rope) as it stretches way too much for my 
tastes.  Use a static rope I think you would be happier and get braided - not 3 
twist stuff, you'll have a mess after loading it up and taking it down.



have fun :)


Scott Carullo

Technical Operations

855-FLSPEED x102



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____
From: "Steve Barnes" 

Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 2:30 PM

To: "WISPA General List" mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>

Subject: [WISPA] Rope


Looking at rope to winch equipment (antennas, Boxes, etc) to top of towers None 
over 275' nothing more than 100 Lbs.

Couple Questions.

What Rope do you prefer and size and what length do you recommend?  I have a 
400Ft Spool of 3/8 Poly double braided but its not long enough.

How do you store your rope for transport to keep it untangled.

What do you use as a throw line to get the rope to the top.   Most of my towers 
the climber cant pull to the top.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN/RC-WiFi<http://www.rcwifi.com/>




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[WISPA] Staff Apparel

[Steve Barnes]

I am looking to dress up my staff a little better.  

Color Shirts with company name, logo, and employee name.  Different colors not 
just one for the whole week.  

I have found this to be an issue.  All the retail shops want to do a min or 12 
like shirts.  Basically I have 4 staff that are everywhere from size small to 
4X with me doing different names and different colors and different sizes I 
doubt that I have more than 2 shirts the same.

Anyone know of a company that might handle this.

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General Manager
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[WISPA] Android App

[Steve Barnes]

I have a few WiFi analyzers on my Droid and they are very useful when setting 
up a clients router to make sure they aren't on my Channel.  None have 40Mhz, 
10Mhz or 5 Mhz width ability.  Is there one out there or is this a limitation 
of the WiFi chipset in the phone.

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Re: [WISPA] Authentication for WISP's

[Steve Barnes]

Joshua, There are several WISPA members who are Mikrotik Engineers.  I would 
expect you could get some advice from one of them with very little cost.  
(Butch Evans, Dennis Burgess, Scott Reed come to mind.)  I know from talking to 
Butch Evans less than a month ago that he has a system that allows you to setup 
DHCP at the Router, The DHCP relay Authenticates the Mac against the Radius and 
gets the assigned IP, creates the queue and reports back to the radius and 
accounting info.  We still use Hotspot on ours and have no issue, but I am not 
the programmer and cant give you  any info with how that is handled.  I do know 
that they have told me that with hotspot it makes it easier to direct customers 
to a payment portal when suspended and it is the same setup if we put a hotspot 
in a public area to get short term customer logins at an event.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN/RC-WiFi<http://www.rcwifi.com/>

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Josh Bowsher
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 5:58 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Authentication for WISP's

Yes that's exactly what I am after.

Joshua S. Bowsher
Director of Internet Services
Midwaynet.net
Midway Electronics
NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC
1250 N McKinley Ave
Rensselaer, IN 47978
Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212
Cell 219-863-0678

www.midwaynet.net<http://www.midwaynet.net/>
jbows...@midwaynet.net<mailto:jbows...@midwaynet.net>

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]<mailto:[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]> 
On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 4:58 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Authentication for WISP's

So you don't want to use hotspot or pppoe, but do want to use RADIUS?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Josh Bowsher 
mailto:jbows...@midwaynet.net>> wrote:
With profiles in the profiles.txt file. You can specify rate limits and IP 
pools I do it currently but I use the hotspot mac auth in the mikrotik AP's

Joshua S. Bowsher
Director of Internet Services
Midwaynet.net
Midway Electronics
NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC
1250 N McKinley Ave
Rensselaer, IN 47978
Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212
Cell 219-863-0678

www.midwaynet.net<http://www.midwaynet.net/>
jbows...@midwaynet.net<mailto:jbows...@midwaynet.net>

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>] On 
Behalf Of Sam Tetherow
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 4:49 PM

To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Authentication for WISP's

How do you get it to provide rate limits and ip addresses outside of PPPoE, 
last time I looked if you were doing MAC Auth out of radius you couldn't pass 
IP and queues, it has been a while though so this may have changed.

On 7/13/11 4:46 PM, Cameron Crum wrote:
Radius can do authentication and provisioning...keep poeple off the network who 
don't belong, set up queues, assign IP's, set up rules to redirect non-paying 
customers, etc. It can be a fantastic tool when used properly. It's not jsut 
for PPPOE.

Cameron
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 4:42 PM, Josh Luthman 
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:
What do you want Radius to do if you're not using PPPOE (assuming it's all 
wireless customers)?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 5:39 PM, Josh Bowsher 
mailto:jbows...@midwaynet.net>> wrote:
I like radius I am just having some random issues with pppoe. I do not want to 
get away from radius. I use Platypus ISP billing and Vircom Radius.

Joshua S. Bowsher
Director of Internet Services
Midwaynet.net
Midway Electronics
NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC
1250 N McKinley Ave
Rensselaer, IN 47978
Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212
Cell 219-863-0678

www.midwaynet.net<http://www.midwaynet.net/>
jbows...@midwaynet.net<mailto:jbows...@midwaynet.net>

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>] On 
Behalf Of Cameron Crum
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 4:37 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Authentication for WISP's

What don't you like about radius? MT can do straight MAC auth through radius on 
the wireless interface. I'm not real sure how your radius server is going to 
provision anything if it isn't doing the authentication. What are you using as 
a billing/provisioning platform?

Cameron

Cameron
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Josh Bowsher 
mailto:jbows...@midwaynet.net>> wrote:
I am interested in finding an alternative way to authenticate 

Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ?

[Steve Barnes]

Radwin 2000c could easily do that for <$3K

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN/RC-WiFi<http://www.rcwifi.com/>

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Adam Greene
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 11:36 AM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ?

Guys,

I appreciate all the feedback. We're looking into Exalt 24GHz for a 3-mile 
link. Not sure if it will reach that far ...

Anyone have direct experience with Exalt? We're using Dragonwave and love it, 
but wanted to stay in the $5k - $7k range on this one ... only need 50M FD at 
the moment ...

Thanks,
Adam


On 7/29/2011 7:05 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

20 mhz with nv2 might get you upwards of 50 or 60 megs, I am guessing.
On Jul 29, 2011 6:54 PM, "Jerry Richardson" 
mailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com>> wrote:
> OK, now just need to find 40MHz of spectrum. Oh wait, there isn't any
>
> - Jerry
>
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> 
> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>] On 
> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 3:52 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ?
>
>
> ARC panel and nv2 in 40mhz?
> On Jul 29, 2011 6:48 PM, "Jerry Richardson" 
> mailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com><mailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com<mailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com>>>
>  wrote:
>> What would you use to put together a 100Mbps FDX link for 500 bucks?
>>
>>
>>
>> - Jerry
>>
>> From: 
>> wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org><mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>>
>>  
>> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org><mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>>]
>>  On Behalf Of Cameron Crum
>> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 12:22 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ?
>>
>> Licensed or unlic? If unlic, still no. I can put together an unlicensed link 
>> for for less than $500 that will probably perform as well as something 
>> costing $6000, and for another $500 I could have redundancy. I'd be a hard 
>> sell to get me to pay for something like that. Maybe I'm just a cheap skate.
>>
>> Cameron
>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Gino Villarini 
>> mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com><mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com<mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>><mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com<mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com><mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com<mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>>>>
>>  wrote:
>> What about below$6k?
>>
>> Gino A. Villarini
>> g...@aeronetpr.com<mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com><mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com<mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>><mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com<mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com><mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com<mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>>>
>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>> 787.273.4143
>> From: 
>> wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org><mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>><mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org><mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>>>
>>  
>> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org><mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>><mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org><mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>>>]
>>  On Behalf Of Cameron Crum
>> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 3:11 PM
>>
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ?
>>
>> $8000 is expensive to me for an unlicensed frequency. For just a bit more 
>> you can get licensed. If I'm getting out of the $100s range then I'll bite 
>> the bullet and go all the way. The difference between $8000 and $12000 is 
>> not that much if I have to finance the link.
>>
>> Cameron
>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Gino Villarini 
>> mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com><mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com<mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>><mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com<mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com><mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com<mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>>>>
>>  wrote:
>> Yes short hops... whats your price range for "pricey"
>>
>> Gino A. Villarini
>> g...@aeronetpr.com<mailto:g...@aero

Re: [WISPA] Save Rural Broadband

[Steve Barnes]

That is a group wanting to save USF for themselves.

They are afraid of losing their Funding.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN/RC-WiFi

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Matt
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 12:05 PM
To: WUG; WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Save Rural Broadband

Everyone Seen this link?

http://saveruralbroadband.org/



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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti GPS

[Steve Barnes]

Chuck Hogg has had luck with GPS for backhauls on PtP links.  
Use 5.4.3 firmware they say.

PtMP there are still big issues.  

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Matt
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 4:43 PM
To: WUG; WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquiti GPS

Anyone played with the Ubiquiti GPS much yet?  We have some 5.7 GPS units we 
have tested on the shop floor.  Seemed to work well there.
Our plan for the 5.7 gear is PtP only and frequency reuse on same tower with 2 
- 3 foot dishes.

We are also anxiously awaiting 2.4 and 3.65 gear with GPS sync as well.



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Re: [WISPA] Juniper Sales COntact?

[Steve Barnes]

Me too.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi<http://www.rcwifi.com/>

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Patrick Shoemaker
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 5:10 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Juniper Sales COntact?

I haven't dealt with him personally, but he's left a bunch of voicemails for me 
recently:

Chris McCracken
303-404-8721

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/chris-mccracken/4/a6/65a

--
Patrick Shoemaker

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]<mailto:[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]> 
On Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 16:59
To: motor...@afmug.com<mailto:motor...@afmug.com>; WISPA General List 
(wireless@wispa.org<mailto:wireless@wispa.org>)
Subject: [WISPA] Juniper Sales COntact?

Anyone has a Juniper Sales Contact? We have a project that we would like to get 
them onboard

Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com<mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
787.273.4143



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Re: [WISPA] Who is staying the night of the 12th?

[Steve Barnes]

I am staying till the 14th.  Wish I could get a cheap flight for the wife and 
stay till Sunday but She doesn't want to be there the whole week and bringing 
her in for the weekend was like $600. Just not in the budget.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi<http://www.rcwifi.com/>

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 12:23 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Who is staying the night of the 12th?

I can't recall any of the information, what dates are they?  I remember they 
follow but I don't want to stay for two whole weeks.  Is everyone else staying 
for the following events?

Also remember I don't have anyone to help me here, it's all me operationally.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 12:15 AM, Chuck Hogg 
mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com>> wrote:
You're not staying for Moto/UBNT/MUM?

Regards,

Chuck

On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 11:57 PM, Josh Luthman 
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:
I'm not sure if 'm going to fly home after 3-4PM (show ends then) on the 12th 
or stay another night and fly home on the 13th.

What is everyone else doing?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



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Re: [WISPA] What is everybody using for alarms?

[Steve Barnes]

The Dude in use for over a year even moved config 3 times to better servers as 
the network grew.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi<http://www.rcwifi.com/>

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Ed Spoon - CSS, Inc.
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 11:37 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] What is everybody using for alarms?

Have been using the Dude as my production monitor for over 3 years, works 
great. Monitoring DS3 and wireless backhauls, Metro-E, wireless and DSL subs. 
Also Routers, switches and server services.

Ed Spoon
Manager of Internet Services
triparish.net<http://triparish.net> / cajun.net<http://cajun.net>
Member: FISPA / WISPA
Ph: 985-879-3219 / Fax: 985-876-6789
Computer Sales & Services, Inc.
[http://www.triparish.net/Media/CSSlogo256.bmp]


On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Paolo Di Francesco 
mailto:paolo.difrance...@level7.it>> wrote:
hum.. I don't know... I tested the dude a couple of years ago and it had
the bad habit to reset the configuration, but maybe it was the
unstability of the version

Do you have it in production without any issue?

Thank you

> Dude. It e-mails, creates sounds, and even tells you where the problem is!
>
> *---
> **_Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer_**
> **Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
> Office*: 314-735-0270 > 
> *Website*:
> http://www.linktechs.net <http://www.linktechs.net/>
> */LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training
> <http://www.onlinemikrotiktraining.com/> - Author of "Learn RouterOS"
> <http://routerosbook.com/>/*
>
> *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> 
> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>]
> *On Behalf Of *Nick Olsen
> *Sent:* Monday, September 19, 2011 9:48 AM
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] What is everybody using for alarms?
>
> We use PRTG, The latest one.
>
> We watch the web client for down devices, And the important stuff alerts
> us via email and text message.
>
> Nick Olsen
> Network Operations
>
> (855) FLSPEED x106
>
> 
>
> *From*: "Paolo Di Francesco" 
> mailto:paolo.difrance...@level7.it>>
> *Sent*: Monday, September 19, 2011 10:46 AM
> *To*: "WISPA General List" mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
> *Subject*: [WISPA] What is everybody using for alarms?
>
> Hi all
>
> I am curious to know what kind of alarm system you have implemented to
> see when a link/router is no more reachable on the net.
>
> Nagios or similar?
>
> any hint would be appreciated :)
>
> thank you
>
>
> --
>
>
> Ing. Paolo Di Francesco
>
> Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale
>
> Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo
>
> C.F. e P.IVA 05940050825
> Fax : +39-091-8772072
> assistenza: (+39) 091-8776432
> web: http://www.level7.it
>
>
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] DMCA Takedown

[Steve Barnes]

Our network is NATed and hard to pin down the customer but about a year ago I 
had one customer who was behind the address the was being complained about  
that was uploading 20GB a month and it was all torrent.  That's a bunch at 256K 
up.  So I called and talked to dad.  Explained our AUP on illegal material.  
The next day the dad brought the Kid to my office and had him sweep my service 
area floors while I factory restored of his computer to delete all the illegal 
content. I told the dad that this is not necessary and he informed me that it 
most definitely was.  Since that time they have been great customers and bought 
several computers and I really appreciate the father making the kid follow the 
law.

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Andy Trimmell
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 3:05 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] DMCA Takedown

Ok. We just contacted a customer for the first time. We'll take your advice I 
think and respond to them and save the customer the grief.

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Justin Wilson
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 2:49 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] DMCA Takedown

If I get repeated requests for the same customer my response to a 
customer is to tell them they may have a virus, spyware, or a teenager.  I spin 
it where the very act of doing this is slowing down the customer's connection.  
If they are a customer who seems reasonable it might be prudent to mention such 
activities could expose them to lawsuits by movie companies.  I don't mention 
illegal as to not freak out most customers.   On the flipside you have the 
customers who share files just to be defiant to the RIAA.  I don't have time to 
debate them.

I typically do not pass on the request directly to the customer.  
Too many shady firms out there. If the customer contacts them they can be 
bullied into paying money.  I just file these requests away and do respond to 
CYA.

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From: Andy Trimmell 
mailto:atrimm...@precisionds.com>>
Reply-To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 14:42:05 -0400
To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] DMCA Takedown

Ya we don't give any customer information to anyone. We just pass along the 
takedown notice to the customer and tell them to stop. We were just wondering 
if anyone had any kind of official template or if they even passed along any 
notice to the customer at all stating they have been downloading copyrighted 
material.

Does your customers even know they have been doing anything wrong before a 
subpoena is made? We've never received any of these until we switched providers.

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Justin Wilson
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 2:17 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] DMCA Takedown

My .02

It's not illegal until a court, or law enforcement agency presents 
paperwork it is.  It is not up to the ISP to be the Police.  To me that's a 
loosing scenario to determine what is lawful and what is not.  Let the experts 
determine that.

My response to these is something along these lines:

"Thank you for contacting us. We would be glad to cooperate with 
any official legal request. Please have your attorneys forward all appropriate 
paperwork to .

If you want to take the extra step throw in there you charge an 
administrative fee for providing any information on this customer. After legal 
paperwork has been cleared by your attorney of course.  After all, you are 
helping these people (most of these are from law firms seeking a bounty) make 
money themselves.

The only way I would turn over any sort of customer info is due to 
a subpoena or other such legal document.  Lessens your exposure for lawsuits 
from the customers based upon privacy concerns.

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From: Andy Trimmell 
mailto:atrimm...@precisionds.com>>
Reply-To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 13:16:47 -0400
To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Subject: [WISPA] DMCA Takedown

How do you all respond to these takedowns? Do we need to respond back to our 
provider with anything? We've just been passing the information onto the 
customer in jeopardy. Are we doing all of our part? 

Re: [WISPA] Pulling my hair out

[Steve Barnes]

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-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Scott Reed
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 4:58 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pulling my hair out

That might work, but again this evening the CPEs won't stay up long enough to 
log in and do anything.
I did climb up to the antenna on the worst offender from last night. It 
is shooting right through a very pretty yellow and orange tree.   
October is a pain for 900 around here.  My theory is the color in the leaves is 
from the metals that get left behind.  Thus we have a bunch or mirrors making 
all sorts of goofy signal patterns.  It is probably worse in the late 
afternoon/early because everything is warmer.  It settled down on its own 
sometime around 10:00PM yesterday.

On 10/7/2011 3:53 PM, Kristian Hoffmann wrote:
> On 10/06/2011 05:52 PM, Scott Reed wrote:
>> Two reasons for the post:
>>1) Clients can cause the whole AP to misbehave.
>>2) Anyone have any trouble shooting tips on how to know 
>> whether to check AP or clients first?
>>
> In the worst conditions, a MT CPE with default configuration will 
> retransmit the same frame 200-300 times per second at the lowest rate, 
> consuming all available bandwidth.  I've observed this in the field 
> and on the bench.  Getting stats from the AP/CPE to easily show when 
> this is happening has proven quite difficult.  I had to use a third 
> station to do a TZSP sniff and analyze the data in wireshark in order to 
> observe it.
>
> Setting frame-lifetime=1 (1 centi-second/10milliseconds), will drop 
> that number to 20-30 frames per second.  It sets a hard limit to how 
> long the AP or CPE will spend retransmitting the same frame.  So to 
> answer your second question, you can try setting frame-lifetime=1 on all the 
> CPEs.
> It shouldn't make a difference on good CPEs, but it will likely make 
> the bad CPEs worse, bringing them to light.
>
> HTH,
>

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Re: [WISPA] UBNT Rocket M5 Throughput

[Steve Barnes]

This sounds like an odd thing to try but have you tried switching which end is 
the AP and the STA.  I Have not found UBNT PTP links to be anywhere close to 
symmetrical and have had 2 different times that switching the AP end to improve 
signal and troughput.

Also with some help of Justin Wilson we have found that there is more stability 
in setting up a EOIP link from MT to MT across the Links.  

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Stuart Pierce
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 7:50 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Rocket M5 Throughput

Have you tried to not use auto for ack and set the ack for 1.5 times the 
distance ?

-- Original Message --
From: Mike Hammett 
Reply-To: WISPA General List 
Date:  Tue, 25 Oct 2011 05:38:39 -0500

>I haven't deployed any Rocket PtP links with less than 55
signal.
>
>Have you followed UBNT's best practices guide? 
>http://www.ubnt.com/downloads/Best%20Practices.pdf
>
>Next step, hit up their forum or their support. Matt at UBNT
worked some 
>magic on one of my links and it has been solid ever since.
>
>-
>Mike Hammett
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>http://www.ics-il.com
>
>
>
>On 10/24/2011 4:52 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr wrote:
>>
>> Ok tried 20mhz, throughput drops about 10mbps to about
30mbps.  My 
>> signal is at least 20db better than noise (signal -59 noise -
85+).  
>> ACK is set auto with distance of 2 miles (actual distance is
approx 
>> 1.5mi).  cable not an issue.  any thoughts?
>>
>> *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-
boun...@wispa.org] 
>> *On Behalf Of *Tom DeReggi
>> *Sent:* Monday, October 24, 2011 3:27 PM
>> *To:* WISPA General List
>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] UBNT Rocket M5 Throughput
>>
>> You probably either have 1) noisy channels, 2) incorrect ACK 
>> distances, 3) not optimal firmware version, 4) Or some third
party 
>> factor effecting testing, such as testing devices that cant
generate 
>> that much traffic or buffer sizes of routers.
>>
>> The first thing to try is switch down to 20mhz channel and
see if the 
>> speed tests stays the same or higher, or if it drops
proportionally. I 
>> bet the 20Mhz channel will perform better.
>>
>> Dont rely on CCQ on its own. Its one indicator, but does not
mean you 
>> have a clean channel for sure.  Also remember, the Eth port
is limited 
>> to 100mb, and if there is cable quality issues such as due to 
>> distance, it could autoadjust to half duplex. Test laptop to
PC, 
>> isolating RF path, just for grins.  It is very rare to find
40Mhz of 
>> clean spectrum for Dual polarity, and even the slightest
packet loss 
>> and delay can drastically reduce TCP throughput.
>>
>> Tom DeReggi
>> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
>> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>>
>> - Original Message -
>>
>> *From:*Patrick D. Nix, Jr
<mailto:pni...@cnetworksolutions.com>
>>
>> *To:*WISPA General List <mailto:wireless@wispa.org>
>>
>> *Sent:*Monday, October 24, 2011 3:50 PM
>>
>> *Subject:*Re: [WISPA] UBNT Rocket M5 Throughput
>>
>> Problem is when I turn airmax on the speed really goes in
the
>> toilet.  Best I can get is about 20mbps. According to
ubiquiti
>> airmax needs to be off up to 15km links, anything over
that
>> airmax needs to be on.  Do you have good success with
short airmax
>> ptp links?
>>
>> *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org
>> <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>
>> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Travis
Johnson
>> *Sent:* Monday, October 24, 2011 2:45 PM
>> *To:* WISPA General List
>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] UBNT Rocket M5 Throughput
>>
>> Turn AirMax on.
>>
>> Travis
>>
>> On 10/24/2011 1:36 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr wrote:
>>
>> What is the best real TCP throughput up/down anyone is
getting on
>> a PtP ubnt connection?  We have two rocket M5 approx 1.5
mi, CCQ
>> 97-98%, 40mhz channel width, airmax off.
>>
>> Displayed TX/RX rate is 270/270.  Real TCP throughput via
iperf
>> radio to radio is 40-45mbps.
>>
>> Are there some config changes needed perhaps?
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Verizon wants a piece of our pie

[Steve Barnes]

In Indiana they have been selling everything they can unload.  Most of the East 
Side of Indiana was Verizon now Frontier.  In Fort Wayne 2 year ago the dumbed 
a bunch in FIOS and sold it less than a year later.

I believe that with the FCC decision today Verizon sees its future as 100% 
wireless.  I expect to see them offload even more of their planted 
infrastructure in light of a wireless one.  

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 1:51 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon wants a piece of our pie

I believe FiOS already covers a good portion of their existing (urban) coverage 
area.

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On 10/27/2011 11:44 AM, Sam Tetherow wrote:
> Didn't Verizon announce FIOS is pretty much dead at this point.  I 
> thought I read they are fulfilling their current obligations, but 
> planned no new rollouts in the forseeable future.
>
> On 10/27/11 11:20 AM, Daniel White wrote:
>> Charles,
>>
>> I think you should rephrase your statement - Cellular networks 
>> (especially in metropolitan areas) WERE built for coverage.  With 4G 
>> services, they are built for capacity.  I doubt the coverage metric 
>> will change in rural areas though.
>>
>> There is also a major question on backhaul.  Microwave backhaul may 
>> be equal for 2G/3G networks, but as 4G proliferates it will have a 
>> higher dependency on Fiber or 60GHz/80GHz short range high capacity 
>> backhaul.  Most rural sites will only support 11GHz/6GHz for backhaul and 
>> therefore lower "found"
>> capacity they could deliver via fixed wireless.
>>
>> On the other hand, WISP's can be nimble to all of these demands, at a 
>> much lower equipment cost.
>>
>> FTTH of course is a different metric altogether.  Verizon wireline 
>> loves to plow fiber now.
>>
>> Anyways, my 2 cents.  I could certainly be wrong :-)
>>
>> Daniel White
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
>> On Behalf Of Charles Wu
>> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 10:31 AM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon wants a piece of our pie
>>
>> I have a dissenting opinion...
>>
>>> It all comes down to a simple economics in the end.  Who can most 
>>> cost effectively provide broadband.
>> A cellular network is built for coverage
>>
>> Additionally, large companies, from a scale and operations 
>> perspective, will tend to put the same equipment everywhere
>>
>> What that means is in order to offer the nationwide network, that the 
>> tower in the rural area that's required to cover that stretch of 
>> highway where there's only a town of 1,000 people will have the same 
>> equipment and capacity as the tower in downtown Chicago that has 
>> 1,000 simultaneous users
>>
>> So in rural areas, where the costs of the tower, backhaul and base 
>> station have already been amortized and paid for to fulfill their 
>> coverage requirements, but many of these towers are sitting at 5-10% 
>> capacity
>>
>> In their mind, to add another 100 or so fixed wireless users off an 
>> AP and putting them in a lower QoS bucket (so the primary mobile 
>> customers aren't affected when fixed customers start slamming 
>> Netflix) is "found money" -- self installs are quite nice when 
>> putting out +60 dBi EIRP at the tower with
>> 700 MHz on licensed spectrum with zero noise floor
>>
>> -Charles
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
>> On Behalf Of Sam Tetherow
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 12:06 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon wants a piece of our pie
>>
>> At the end of the day when a WISP puts up a 'cell' site it is 
>> probably costing them 1/100th of what it costs the cellco to do so.  
>> The equipment used is most likely 1/100th the cost at the 'AP' and 
>> 1/10th at the CPE and the spectrum that the cellco uses is not free.
>>
>> Even when you take into account that the cellco operates on a much 
>> longer ROI and they can get some economy of scale on certain things I 
>> don't see how they can overcome the price difference to be able to 
>> effectively compete against a WISP, especially given their lack of 
>> spectrum.  Su

Re: [WISPA] UBNT sectors 120s, 90s, or 60s?

[Steve Barnes]

I would say do a double run on 120*.  Maybe 90* in 5.8 but the spectrum isn't 
there in 2.4 or 3.65 for 90* or 60* yet without AirSync.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 11:01 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT sectors 120s, 90s, or 60s?

I definitely want 120*.  Beyond that, assuming we're talking about 2.4, then 
60* isn't doable.  There just isn't the spectrum and without GPS it isn't going 
to work.  90* is going to be tough but could probably work with vertical 
separation.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
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Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Shane MacDonald 
mailto:wi...@kpperformance.ca>> wrote:

We are trying to decide which degree Ubiquiti sectors to release in December.
Our production line can handle two of the three for a mid December release date 
and want your feedback.
The 120 degree version is pretty much a lock but we want your opinion between 
the 90s or 60s so we release the sectors you require.

Please reply to the list or send me an email directly as your response will 
weigh heavily on our decision.

Thanks,

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[WISPA] Website owner

[Steve Barnes]

I know this is not a WISP issue per se. In our local area there was a network 
admin for a large company who on the side setup about a hundred websites for 
local small business and individuals.  Last month he took his wife's life and 
then killed himself.   No other family left and no one to handle his affairs.  
His Clients are coming to me and asking how do I get control of my website.  
They had no agreements and no proof of ownership other than the dead mans 
handshake.  

What steps can be taken to recover these sites?  
What is the best way to research and find where they are hosted, not just the 
registrar?


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[WISPA] Porting Number to VoIP

[Steve Barnes]

I live in an area in Eastern Indiana that used to be Verizon and now is 
Frontier.  I have gone to a VoIP system at my office and love it.  I got an ATA 
to setup my home, got the temp number and started the port process and My home 
exchange cannot be ported by my provider. It is different than the office 
exchange. They are checking with Level3 to see if there is anything more that 
can be done. I want to start offering VoIP to that exchange but if I can’t get 
the port to go I will have very few takers.

What is my next step.  What should it do before I file a complaint with the FCC?

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Re: [WISPA] Porting Number to VoIP

[Steve Barnes]

Josh the FCC has a complaint form for this issue.  Not sure it will do anything 
or would do any good.

www.fcc.gov/cib/consumerfacts/numbport.html


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-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 9:14 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Porting Number to VoIP

The FCC has nothing to do with it.  The number isn't the problem, the 
origination carrier.  That's like complaining to the FCC that you
(Steve) don't offer service in Canada.  If you didn't try Level3 before who did 
you try?

We had 20 or 30 origination carriers before we could port 99-100% of numbers.  
1 or 2 big ones cover 95% of numbers.

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Direct: 937-552-2343
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On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 9:10 AM, Steve Barnes  wrote:
> I live in an area in Eastern Indiana that used to be Verizon and now 
> is Frontier.  I have gone to a VoIP system at my office and love it.  
> I got an ATA to setup my home, got the temp number and started the 
> port process and My home exchange cannot be ported by my provider. It 
> is different than the office exchange. They are checking with Level3 
> to see if there is anything more that can be done. I want to start 
> offering VoIP to that exchange but if I can't get the port to go I will have 
> very few takers.
>
>
>
> What is my next step.  What should it do before I file a complaint 
> with the FCC?
>
>
>
> Steve Barnes
>
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>
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Re: [WISPA] Porting Number to VoIP

[Steve Barnes]

Faisal  Good link.  That makes a little more sense of why I am having this 
issue but I hope I can find a way around it through Level3.

Missed you at Wispapoloza

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-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Imtiaz
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 9:23 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Porting Number to VoIP


Hi Steve,

Here is a nice thread with a lot of good info related to LNP. 

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r24697102-Rural-number-porting-
situation-is-geographic-LNP-live-

To get around this you will need to find a Carrier that is somehow connected to 
that exchange or has a switch in that lata to be able to port that number.

While it is more convenient for your VOIP provider to blame Frontier, the real 
issue is that your VOIP provider either directly or indirectly does not have 
any (interconnect) services in your local exchange area.

Faisal.

-- Original Message --
From: Steve Barnes 
Reply-To: WISPA General List 
Date:  Wed, 9 Nov 2011 09:10:02 -0500

>I live in an area in Eastern Indiana that used to be Verizon and now is
Frontier.  I have gone to a VoIP system at my office and love it.  I got an ATA 
to setup my home, got the temp number and started the port process and My home 
exchange cannot be ported by my provider. It is different than the office 
exchange. They are checking with Level3 to see if there is anything more that 
can be done. I want to start offering VoIP to that exchange but if I can’t 
get the port to go I will have very few takers.
>
>What is my next step.  What should it do before I file a complaint with
the FCC?
>
>Steve Barnes
>General Manager
>PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi<http://www.rcwifi.com/>
>
>




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Re: [WISPA] Customer Usage

[Steve Barnes]

Being in eastern Indiana 35 Miles from fiber we are bandwidth poor.  Soon to 
change but until we have a better situation.

$39.99 plan 1M/256K 20Gig/month $2/gig overage
$59.99 plan 2M/512K 50Gig/month $2/gig overage
$79.99 plan 3M/1M 100Gig/month $2/gig overage
$99.99 plan 5M/1M Unlimited

Big MUST!!! You must have a method in place for your customers to see their 
usage.  Daily/Week/Month  and previous months.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi<http://www.rcwifi.com/>

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of David Hannum
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 8:37 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Customer Usage

What do you folks feel is "excessive" usage on your system?  And how do you 
deal with it?  Do you have bandwidth limits?  Where do you draw the line.  I 
have one residential sub  who month after month uses more bandwidth than the 
next 3-4 residential subs combined.  Last month, they used over 105GB.  Is this 
excessive?  The next top residential sub in the same month consumed 37GB (which 
in and of itself was 10GB higher than the next one).
With Netflix, Hulu, Youtube, etc, this may be the new normal . . .

Thoughts?

Kind Regards,
David Hannum
New Era Broadband, LLC





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Re: [WISPA] MT interface bonding

[Steve Barnes]

No. For a secondary radio or backup connection only.  You can't even control it.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi<http://www.rcwifi.com/>

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Patrick D. Nix, Jr
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 10:35 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] MT interface bonding

Will bonding interfaces of 2 Rocket M5 Dish units result in full duplex 
transmission?  We are needing to increase the backhaul throughput of one of our 
links.  The obvious answer is to convert to a licensed full duplex unit  (which 
we plan to do) but in the meantime to get by will bonding interfaces fix our 
issue?  We are getting about 45-50 mbps duplex mode on a single unit (using the 
built in speed test), if we bond two we are assuming that we will see 
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Re: [WISPA] FCC releases USF/ICC Order, rules on subsidizing ILECs

[Steve Barnes]

Scottie, I have the same issue here in Indiana with one exchange in particular. 
 I have been in contact with the Indiana Utility Regulatory Committee.  They 
are in process of helping us.  They could not understand why we could port and 
have access to all other exchanges in the same rate center but not that one.  

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Scottie Arnett
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 12:58 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC releases USF/ICC Order, rules on subsidizing ILECs

We just happen to fall into one of those 3.65Ghz protected areas! But I have 
heard that the local telco has something going on there too!

Scottie Arnett
President
Info-Ed, Inc.
Electronics and More
931-243-2101
sarn...@info-ed.com
- Original Message -
From: "Fred Goldstein" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 10:38 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC releases USF/ICC Order, rules on subsidizing ILECs


> At 11/21/2011 11:18 PM, Scottie Arnett wrote:
>>Re-reading your posts brings me to another question.has any VOIP
>>carriers ever used cellular carriers numbers? Is it even possible?
>
> First, wrt the Livingston exchange, 931-397 and 931-403 belong to US
> Cellular; the latter is pooled (they're using the 7's).  Nextel has
> -871, pooled (using 6 and 7).  Oddly, US Cellular but not S-N says it
> subtends a Gaineborough tandem, which is Twin Lakes, but most Twin
> Lakes exchanges subtend Nashville.
>
> As to VoIP via cellular numbers, well, its sort of odd, but it might
> be possible.  The new rules may actually say something about this -- 
> there was a VoIP company affiliated with a wireless company that was,
> uh, alleged to have been laundering its LD calls via the cellular
> company in order to get the lower termination rates.  They deny it of
> course... but that may have been addressed in the intercarrier
> rules.  I haven't gotten through it all yet. (It's freakin' huge.)  I
> actually had a client that was a wireless company whose business
> included lots and lots of modems, way back when, so it's not
> unprecedented to have, uh, "incidental" non-wireless traffic go
> through a wirless feed.  And heck, put up one 3.65 GHz base station
> (if it's allowed there) and declare it "CMRS", and you're a cellco too!
>
> There's one lawyer I know who sort of specializes in this sort of thing.
>
>>Scottie Arnett
>>President
>>Info-Ed, Inc.
>>Electronics and More
>>931-243-2101
>>sarn...@info-ed.com
>>- Original Message -
>>From: "Scottie Arnett" 
>>To: "WISPA General List" 
>>Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 10:14 PM
>>Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC releases USF/ICC Order, rules on subsidizing 
>>ILECs
>>
>>
>> > Please explain about the Livingston exchange!!! I have been trying to
>> > break
>> > this barrier for almost 12 years.
>> >
>> > Scottie Arnett
>> > President
>> > Info-Ed, Inc.
>> > Electronics and More
>> > 931-243-2101
>> > sarn...@info-ed.com
>> > - Original Message -
>> > From: "Fred Goldstein" 
>> > To: "WISPA General List" 
>> > Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 9:08 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC releases USF/ICC Order, rules on subsidizing
>> > ILECs
>> >
>> >
>> >> At 11/21/2011 09:29 PM, you wrote:
>> >>>The only other "telcos/cellcos" here that have local numbers are US
>> >>>Cellular
>> >>>and Verizon. None of the big VOIP carriers do, such as
>> >>>Vonage/Packet8/take
>> >>>your pick. They have NO Clec's here either.
>> >>
>> >> I like to think of that as a challenge. ;-)  The good news is that
>> >> they use the Nashville tandem, not their own, so the traffic exchange
>> >> can be indirect.
>> >>
>> >> But it's true that there are no CLECs with numbers in TLTC's
>> >> area.  Powertel, US Cellular, VZW and Sprint Nextel are the only
>> >> other carriers there, all mobile.  No Celina numbers, either, if it
>> >> matters. But Livingston has pooled prefix codes available.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>  --
>> >>  Fred Goldsteink1io   fgoldstein "at" ionary.com
>> >>  ionary Consulting  http://www.ionary.com/
>> >>  +1 617 795 2701
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
&

[WISPA] Horizontal or Vertical

[Steve Barnes]

I have a company that is going to deploy a WiFi Hotspot underneath a tower that 
I already have 4 UBNT M2 Sectors on.  The reason for the Deploy is they need to 
use hand barcode scanners over their whole Lot.  Luckily they plan to work with 
me on this situation and coordinate frequencies.  I have a stock of old Omni's 
that I have taken down, half are Horizontal and Half are vertical polarity.  
Since my AP's are dual pol that does not matter.  There however is generally 
less noise on Horizontal.  The hand held barcode readers give no spec as to how 
the internal antenna is oriented.  What would others recommendation.  I am 
using as high gain antenna as possible then turning down the transmit so the 
receive will be good both ways.  This will be covering about 4 acres.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
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Re: [WISPA] Horizontal or Vertical

[Steve Barnes]

Two basic reasons, I am on 10Mhz channel size and they want it all in-house for 
their security.  It's a  multimillion dollar company that turns normal gas and 
diesel delivery trucks to electric and there is allot of high tech tracking 
through the steps.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi<http://www.rcwifi.com/>

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Marlon K. Schafer (509-982-2181)
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 5:00 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Horizontal or Vertical

why not just let them use your system for the scanners?

Everything will work better that way.
marlon

- Original Message -
From: Steve Barnes<mailto:st...@pcswin.com>
To: WISPA General List<mailto:wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 12:47 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Horizontal or Vertical

I have a company that is going to deploy a WiFi Hotspot underneath a tower that 
I already have 4 UBNT M2 Sectors on.  The reason for the Deploy is they need to 
use hand barcode scanners over their whole Lot.  Luckily they plan to work with 
me on this situation and coordinate frequencies.  I have a stock of old Omni's 
that I have taken down, half are Horizontal and Half are vertical polarity.  
Since my AP's are dual pol that does not matter.  There however is generally 
less noise on Horizontal.  The hand held barcode readers give no spec as to how 
the internal antenna is oriented.  What would others recommendation.  I am 
using as high gain antenna as possible then turning down the transmit so the 
receive will be good both ways.  This will be covering about 4 acres.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi<http://www.rcwifi.com/>




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Re: [WISPA] OFFLIST - Re: Bandwidth Monitoring and Presentation

[Steve Barnes]

Didn't make it off list.  You get the DOOOHHH!  For the day.

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Cameron Crum
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 5:17 PM
To: Kevin Battersby; WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] OFFLIST - Re: Bandwidth Monitoring and Presentation

Kevin,

Wispmon can probably integrate with this and it has a customer portal page that 
allows a user to view daily updated usage. If you need a full Wisp Management 
platform ratehr than several pieces of cobbled together software, give us a 
shout and we can show you a demo.

Regards,

Cameron Crum
Wispmon.com
On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 2:37 PM, Kevin Battersby 
mailto:ke...@battersby.net>> wrote:

Greetings

We have been using Pmacct to gather bandwidth accounting information for some
time now. This is processed for our own use on a monthly basis.

Our current problem is customers requesting access to this information on a
regular basis throughout the month.

At the moment I believe we are looking at a completely custom job to get this
done.

My question is, what software might be available to do this presentation? Any
success stories?

--
Regards,
Kevin



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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti 3.65 APs

[Steve Barnes]

Does the M365 force AirMax?

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi<http://www.rcwifi.com/>

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 10:19 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti 3.65 APs

> I have just completed testing and using a RocketM365 with a Nano365 with a 
> KPP reflector and I was able to get close to 16 megs!

5mhz channel?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Doug Clark 
mailto:d...@txox.com>> wrote:
I load my 5 gig UBNT APS with 45 clients on a 10 meg channel and
they all are able to pull between 18 and 24 megs down at all times.  I do not 
think you have anything
to worry about even on a 5 meg channel.  I have just completed testing and 
using a RocketM365 with a Nano365 with a KPP reflector and
I was able to get close to 16 megs!




---Original Message---

From: Carl Shivers<mailto:cshiv...@aristotle.net>
Date: 1/17/2012 8:58:47 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'<mailto:wireless@wispa.org>
Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquiti 3.65 APs

We are planning to sell a mixture of speeds using our Ubiquiti 3.65 APs; 1,3,5 
and 10 Mbps circuits. We are a bit concerned on how many clients we can get on 
each AP. Does anyone have some stats on this? Most of our customers would be in 
the 1 and 3 Mbps range. Only a few are purchasing the 5 and 10 Mbps circuits.








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Re: [WISPA] No mail

[Steve Barnes]

I think the list has just been slow.

I got
4 emails on the 2nd
2 emails on the 3rd
3 on the 4th
1 on the 5t 
And 2 today

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Matt Hoppes
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 10:27 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] No mail

I'm going to ditto this.  I've gotten no mail except this discussion, and 
normally I get much more.

Also am not getting the fiber list, even though I'm subscribed and have been 
told mail was sent there.


Matt Hoppes
Director of Information Technology
Indigo Wireless
+1 (570) 723-7312

On 2/6/12 10:27 AM, Eric Rogers wrote:
> I only see about 3-4 per day.  I did get the ones about "No Mail" over
> the weekend.  Am I on "B" also?
>
> Eric
>
> *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
> *On Behalf Of *Rick Harnish
> *Sent:* Sunday, February 05, 2012 3:12 PM
> *To:* 'WISPA General List'
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] No mail
>
> Somehow your subscription was set to send no mail. I assume it was
> because of Bounced emails as the reason was (B). I think B = Bounced.
>
> It should be ok now.
>
> Rick
>
> *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
> *On Behalf Of *Tim Kerns
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 04, 2012 5:25 PM
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* [WISPA] No mail
>
> Rick,
>
> I have not received mail for any wispa accounts in two or more days.
>
> Come to think of it I didn't receive the usual "you are subscribed
> to" messages either.
>
> Tim Kerns
>
> CV-Access, Inc.
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] No mail

[Steve Barnes]

If we wanted to start the traffic flowing we could start a thread about how 
UBNT is better than Cambium, or what political party will help the wireless 
community out the best.  But lets not do something that stupid. :)


Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Leroy Koglin
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 10:45 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] No mail

Same number of messages received here also.

Leroy



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Steve Barnes
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 10:40 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] No mail

I think the list has just been slow.

I got
4 emails on the 2nd
2 emails on the 3rd
3 on the 4th
1 on the 5t
And 2 today

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Matt Hoppes
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 10:27 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] No mail

I'm going to ditto this.  I've gotten no mail except this discussion, and 
normally I get much more.

Also am not getting the fiber list, even though I'm subscribed and have been 
told mail was sent there.


Matt Hoppes
Director of Information Technology
Indigo Wireless
+1 (570) 723-7312

On 2/6/12 10:27 AM, Eric Rogers wrote:
> I only see about 3-4 per day.  I did get the ones about "No Mail" over 
> the weekend.  Am I on "B" also?
>
> Eric
>
> *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
> *On Behalf Of *Rick Harnish
> *Sent:* Sunday, February 05, 2012 3:12 PM
> *To:* 'WISPA General List'
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] No mail
>
> Somehow your subscription was set to send no mail. I assume it was 
> because of Bounced emails as the reason was (B). I think B = Bounced.
>
> It should be ok now.
>
> Rick
>
> *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
> *On Behalf Of *Tim Kerns
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 04, 2012 5:25 PM
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* [WISPA] No mail
>
> Rick,
>
> I have not received mail for any wispa accounts in two or more days.
>
> Come to think of it I didn't receive the usual "you are subscribed 
> to" messages either.
>
> Tim Kerns
>
> CV-Access, Inc.
>
>
>
>
>
>


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Re: [WISPA] Air Control

[Steve Barnes]

If they are gray that means they are not connected. You can Sort By status.  
Highlight the disconnected ones, right click and hit connect/disconnect.  Enter 
the user and password and wait.  (of course this works if you have them all 
with the same user and pass) if not you will have to connect one at a time.

If the status light is orange then they are just off-line.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of ~NGL~
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 12:25 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Air Control

On the All Devices Page. I have green dot on some of the Status indicators for 
that are on but not all. how do I set it so all devices that are online are 
green?
The devices are all Bullets.
Thanx
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Re: [WISPA] Air Control

[Steve Barnes]

I though it may be red but my 42" screen up on the wall in the NOC makes it 
look more Orange.

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 1:05 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Air Control

Red is offline.

Haven't seen orange.

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On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Steve Barnes 
mailto:st...@pcswin.com>> wrote:
If they are gray that means they are not connected. You can Sort By status.  
Highlight the disconnected ones, right click and hit connect/disconnect.  Enter 
the user and password and wait.  (of course this works if you have them all 
with the same user and pass) if not you will have to connect one at a time.

If the status light is orange then they are just off-line.

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General Manager
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Subject: [WISPA] Air Control

On the All Devices Page. I have green dot on some of the Status indicators for 
that are on but not all. how do I set it so all devices that are online are 
green?
The devices are all Bullets.
Thanx
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Re: [WISPA] [Ubnt_users] Ubiquity Rocket M2 with Tranzeo CPE

[Steve Barnes]

>Have you had any situation where a Tranzeo worked at a customer site and 
>Ubiquiti didn't?

Having that right now. MT RB411 AP with XR2.  UBNT Nanstation M2 Connection 
rate all over the place and on a video stream drops clear down to 3.3M with 45% 
CCQ.  Throw a OLD Tranzeo CPG-19 at the site and get a solid 48 MB 90% CCQ.  I 
have seen this on this sector mostly and it was all replaced in DEC due to ICE 
getting in the RB case.  May Climb in a week or two and Change to a Rocket with 
a new 120* sector. 

But you asked Josh.  Yep I have had it.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 11:53 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Ubnt_users] Ubiquity Rocket M2 with Tranzeo CPE

>Might have to start drinking the ubiquity koolaid.  I've just not had 
>good luck with the ones I've tried out here.

Have you had any situation where a Tranzeo worked at a customer site and 
Ubiquiti didn't?

I replaced my Tranzeo stuff with Mikrotik way back before Ubiquiti had their 
stuff.  I doubt I will ever use a Tranzeo radio again.

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Direct: 937-552-2343
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On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 11:49 AM, Marlon K. Schafer (509-982-2181) 
 wrote:
> I can't help with the Ubiquity issue, but your CPE situation is the 
> same as ours.  I know Mikrotik works well with them.
>
> Once you get something working well you'll love the new AP's!
>
> I do wish Tranzeo would fix the danged lockup issues on the cpe's though.
> Some people never have trouble, others do weekly.  ug
>
> Might have to start drinking the ubiquity koolaid.  I've just not had 
> good luck with the ones I've tried out here.
> marlon
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Matt Hoppes" 
> To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" 
> Cc: ; 
> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 4:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Ubnt_users] Ubiquity Rocket M2 with Tranzeo CPE
>
>
>> Did you install the RF Armor shield kits?  They are an incredible 
>> help at defeating noise.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 20, 2012, at 14:47, Jay DeBoer  wrote:
>>
>>> I am in process of converting a tower from Tranzeo AP's to Ubquity 
>>> Rocket M2's.  I have the M2's hung and pointed.  I can get the 
>>> clients to connect but I seem to be getting half throughput at best.
>>>
>>> I have the Airmax disabled on the M2's and the Clients have been 
>>> running in 802.11b mode previously.
>>>
>>> The clients are a mix of Tranzeo CPQ and SL2 radios.  Signal levels 
>>> appear to be a bout the same if not a little better.  My noise floor 
>>> has seem to come up from around -100 to -95/90ish.
>>>
>>> At this point I'm a little lost / too frustrated to think straight.  
>>> Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> --
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>>>
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>>> Summit Digital Holdings, Inc.
>>> 100 N Roland St, Suite B
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>>>
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Re: [WISPA] [Ubnt_users] Ubiquity Rocket M2 with Tranzeo CPE

[Steve Barnes]

Sorry Guys I see you point and you would be right.  However, Our Installer was 
using a AirGrid not a Nanostation M2.  Airgrid actually gave better signal 
strength -65 as compared to the Tranzeo  -71 but the Tranzeo had much better 
Connection rate.  Last month had another customer complain off same AP that her 
speeds were terrible.  Got looking and same issue AP RX rate was 3.3.  Went out 
replaced a NSM2 with a standard NS2 connection rates went from 3.3 to 48/2 
(10Mhz Channel)  Install just told me he has had 3 more like that and wants to 
change the sector.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi<http://www.rcwifi.com/>

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Chuck Hogg
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 2:45 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Ubnt_users] Ubiquity Rocket M2 with Tranzeo CPE

I was thinking the same thing...

Regards,
Chuck

On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 12:35 PM, Josh Luthman 
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:
Interesting.  Was the 19 in the model a 19dbi?  So you went from an
8dbi Ubiquiti to 19dbi Tranzeo?

Josh Luthman
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Direct: 937-552-2343
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Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Steve Barnes 
mailto:st...@pcswin.com>> wrote:
>>Have you had any situation where a Tranzeo worked at a customer site and 
>>Ubiquiti didn't?
>
> Having that right now. MT RB411 AP with XR2.  UBNT Nanstation M2 Connection 
> rate all over the place and on a video stream drops clear down to 3.3M with 
> 45% CCQ.  Throw a OLD Tranzeo CPG-19 at the site and get a solid 48 MB 90% 
> CCQ.  I have seen this on this sector mostly and it was all replaced in DEC 
> due to ICE getting in the RB case.  May Climb in a week or two and Change to 
> a Rocket with a new 120* sector.
>
> But you asked Josh.  Yep I have had it.
>
> Steve Barnes
> General Manager
> PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> 
> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>] On 
> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 11:53 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Ubnt_users] Ubiquity Rocket M2 with Tranzeo CPE
>
>>Might have to start drinking the ubiquity koolaid.  I've just not had
>>good luck with the ones I've tried out here.
>
> Have you had any situation where a Tranzeo worked at a customer site and 
> Ubiquiti didn't?
>
> I replaced my Tranzeo stuff with Mikrotik way back before Ubiquiti had their 
> stuff.  I doubt I will ever use a Tranzeo radio again.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 11:49 AM, Marlon K. Schafer 
> (509-982-2181) 
> mailto:o...@odessaoffice.com>> wrote:
>> I can't help with the Ubiquity issue, but your CPE situation is the
>> same as ours.  I know Mikrotik works well with them.
>>
>> Once you get something working well you'll love the new AP's!
>>
>> I do wish Tranzeo would fix the danged lockup issues on the cpe's though.
>> Some people never have trouble, others do weekly.  ug
>>
>> Might have to start drinking the ubiquity koolaid.  I've just not had
>> good luck with the ones I've tried out here.
>> marlon
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Matt Hoppes" 
>> mailto:mhop...@indigowireless.com>>
>> To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" 
>> mailto:ubnt_us...@wispa.org>>
>> Cc: mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>; 
>> mailto:ubnt_us...@wispa.org>>
>> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 4:06 PM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Ubnt_users] Ubiquity Rocket M2 with Tranzeo CPE
>>
>>
>>> Did you install the RF Armor shield kits?  They are an incredible
>>> help at defeating noise.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 20, 2012, at 14:47, Jay DeBoer 
>>> mailto:jdeb...@summitdigital.us>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am in process of converting a tower from Tranzeo AP's to Ubquity
>>>> Rocket M2's.  I have the M2's hung and pointed.  I can get the
>>>> clients to connect but I seem to be getting half throughput at best.
>>>>
>>>> I have the Airmax disabled on the M2's and the Clients have been
>>>> running in 802.11b mode previously.
>>>>
>>>> The clients are a mix of Tranzeo CPQ and SL2 radios.  Signal levels
>>>> appear to be a bout the same if not a little better.  My noise floor
>>&

Re: [WISPA] Upcoming Marathon Race

[Steve Barnes]

Airmax off? 20Mhz Channel? Can you if you turn off WPA?

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General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi<http://www.rcwifi.com/>

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Carl Shivers
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 4:09 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: [WISPA] Upcoming Marathon Race

We have an Marathon next week and the organizers have asked if we can supply 
connectivity. I had a spare UB Rocket M2 with a 90 degree sector antenna 
waiting for another job, so I decided to use this.

Here is basics on our config.
Access Point
Bridge Mode
SSID LittleRockMarathon
WPA-PKIP
Static Management IP

This will sit behind a router, which has a static WAN and will dish out IPs via 
DHCP on the LAN side.

That's about it, but we can't connect our laptops to the ssid.

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[WISPA] SSH Tranzeo

[Steve Barnes]

Can anyone give me the proper command line to change the gateway on a Tranzeo 
to 10.22.46.1  I can ssh into it.  (tech Fat fingered the gateway)  Trying to 
save a 25 Mile drive.

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Re: [WISPA] SSH Tranzeo

[Steve Barnes]

Never mind Guys we got it. Have a great weekend.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi


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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Steve Barnes
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 2:24 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] SSH Tranzeo

Can anyone give me the proper command line to change the gateway on a Tranzeo 
to 10.22.46.1  I can ssh into it.  (tech Fat fingered the gateway)  Trying to 
save a 25 Mile drive.

Steve Barnes
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Re: [WISPA] SSH Tranzeo

[Steve Barnes]

EOIP to Subnet static ip on pcs, then used GUI.

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General Manager
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 2:55 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] SSH Tranzeo


Care to share the answer?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
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Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mar 9, 2012 2:49 PM, "Steve Barnes" 
mailto:st...@pcswin.com>> wrote:
Never mind Guys we got it. Have a great weekend.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>] On 
Behalf Of Steve Barnes
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 2:24 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] SSH Tranzeo

Can anyone give me the proper command line to change the gateway on a Tranzeo 
to 10.22.46.1  I can ssh into it.  (tech Fat fingered the gateway)  Trying to 
save a 25 Mile drive.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
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Re: [WISPA] SSH Tranzeo

[Steve Barnes]

Nope ended up not being so. Had to use another route to get in.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Stuart Pierce
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 8:06 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] SSH Tranzeo

You can SSH into a Tranzeo unit ? Which model, certainly not a CPQ, 5a, 6x 
variety ?

-- Original Message --
From: Steve Barnes 
Reply-To: WISPA General List 
Date:  Fri, 9 Mar 2012 19:23:32 +

>Can anyone give me the proper command line to change the
gateway on a Tranzeo to 10.22.46.1  I can ssh into it.  (tech Fat fingered the 
gateway)  Trying to save a 25 Mile drive.
>
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Re: [WISPA] Remote Access

[Steve Barnes]

Options I see:
With the right SSL have the SBS2003 setup its own VPN's.
Setup a PPTP with Mtik and Make a step by step for the Employees to do it.
Cisco box and Clients (oh and bend over and take it like a man)

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi<http://www.rcwifi.com/>

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Nick Olsen
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 4:16 PM
To: Josh Luthman; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Remote Access

They have multiple mapped drives that they are use to. So Dropbox would require 
a complete re-teach of the whole office. And I'd use PPTP and Mikrotik before I 
used Hamachi.
Nick Olsen
Network Operations
(855) FLSPEED  x106

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From: "Josh Luthman" 
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 4:07 PM
To: "WISPA General List" mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Remote Access

Are you open to other applications, like Dropbox?  Hamachi?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 4:05 PM, Eric Tykwinski 
mailto:eric-l...@truenet.com>> wrote:
If they have a OSX server or Linux server, the Apples could just use a simple 
SSH Tunnel.
A little AppleScript setup and it's just a click for the user.

Sincerely,

Eric Tykwinski
TrueNet, Inc.
P: 610-429-8300
F: 610-429-3222

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>] On 
Behalf Of Nick Olsen
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 3:44 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Remote Access

We've currently got a customer using the a sonicwall SSL VPN Netextender to VPN 
into their internal network. However, Lately it hasn't been working to well for 
them. And they are getting a few mac's in the mix these days. And sonicwall 
says the software doesn't work with macs and there is no plan to.

Now, I know I could do this with a simple mikrotik router and PPTP as pretty 
much everything under the sun supports pptp. But we were looking for something 
that might be a little more user friendly. Anyone have any suggestions.
The customer is just looking to gain internal access for things like windows 
filesharing..exchange..etc.. in a secure fashion.
Nick Olsen
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Re: [WISPA] Omni antenna for a rocket M900

[Steve Barnes]

Blair, how is this setup working?  Is this a real Option for future 
deployments?  I have a grain Leg that would be perfect 25 homes within a 2 mile 
radius, however, light to moderate woods at 1 Mile almost 100% around the Gran 
leg.  Backhaul not a problem from top but without 900 I cant get 1 mile and 
only 3 house.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Blair Davis
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 9:03 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Omni antenna for a rocket M900

opps!  V-pol on chain 1

On 3/13/2012 9:02 PM, Blair Davis wrote:
Reverse them.  Put the H-pol omni on chain 0 and the V-pol on chain.  Works 
much better.

Not sure why, but my field testing proved it.



On 3/13/2012 5:42 PM, Ryan Ghering wrote:
We are looking into a situation like this, using a 900 Vertical Omni with on 
chain 0 and a Horizontal Omni on chain 1
with about 10 foot pf spacing between the two. I too would like to know if 
anyone else has done this..

Ryan

On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 3:28 PM, Jason Bailey 
mailto:j284...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
What I did was connect the omni to one port,connected a h-pol 9db panel and 
pointed it toward the majority of customers.

--- On Tue, 3/13/12, Eduardo 
mailto:edua...@webjogger.net>> wrote:

From: Eduardo mailto:edua...@webjogger.net>>
Subject: [WISPA] Omni antenna for a rocket M900
To: "WISPA General List" mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Date: Tuesday, March 13, 2012, 5:26 PM

I have some customers inside a 1 mile radius of a POP. We want to use a rocket 
M900 with an omni antenna and put a dummy load on the other RPSMA lead, since 
we couldn't find any MIMO 900MHz omni available.

Does anyone have any experience doing this?

Thanks,
Eduardo
Webjogger Internet Services
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Re: [WISPA] NanoStation M w/ Reflector Installs

[Steve Barnes]

My installers hate the SA or KPP Reflector with Nanostation installs at the top 
of a tv tower.  They much prefer the NanoBridge.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCSWIN / RC-WiFi

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Greg Osborn
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 12:28 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NanoStation M w/ Reflector Installs

There is nothing easy about the nanobridge install.  100% PITA and the gain 
isn't very great.  10-12 db additional with a securalign or kpp.  The power is 
much lower on the bridges also.  600 mw vs 200-300.

On 3/23/2012 12:03 PM, Chris Gotstein wrote:

trying to standardize on a single radio platform with the NSM2.



On 3/23/2012 10:58 AM, m...@tc3net.com<mailto:m...@tc3net.com> wrote:

Why not just use Nanobridge? They work well, and are cheaper then NS2/Reflector 
combo, and easier to install, probably at the same gain.



Regards

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To: "Ubiquiti Users Group"<mailto:ubnt_us...@wispa.org>, 
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Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 11:55:11 AM

Subject: [WISPA] NanoStation M w/ Reflector Installs



We have decided to standardize on the NanoStationM2 for all our 2.4Ghz

installs.  At this time, the installers use the lights on the radio for

alignment.  When using a reflector, they are complaining that they can't

see the lights on the radio to align it.  Besides allowing them to login

to the radio to check signal, what are you guys doing to properly align

the NSM radios when using a reflector?  Is it as difficult as my

installers are making it out to be?





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Re: [WISPA] UBNT AirFiber Radio Pics

[Steve Barnes]

What?? Its supposed to be designed after the look of High dollar European 
Luxury car head lights.  (Ok Yeah.. its ugly) However Functionality of separate 
transmit and receive antennas makes it that way.  I look forward to trying them.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi


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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Bob Moldashel
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 1:33 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT AirFiber Radio Pics

That thing definitely wins the ugly antenna award...

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Re: [WISPA] Inventory control

[Steve Barnes]

I handle it with a single Line: Misc. install parts.  I hate Keeping up 
inventory!

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi<http://www.rcwifi.com/>

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of ch...@mycountrylink.com
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 5:07 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Inventory control

How are other WISPs managing their inventory?  We run AZOTEL’s SIMPLer, but its 
inventory controls only let us manage the APs and SMs.  What inventory programs 
are you using to manage: clamps, cable, connectors, nuts, bolts, zip ties, etc.?

Thanks for your help,
Chris Schipper
CountryLink LLC
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Re: [WISPA] UBNT RocketAC spotted on FCC site

[Steve Barnes]

Ben and Matt,
So the new RocketAC Lite wont do PTMP and it will not have AirPrism.  That I 
get.  So what is the benefit of these units over a standard Rocket M5 other 
then it has AC which with only dual Pol what other advantage with this have.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCSWIN.com
Howard LLC.

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Ben Moore
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 5:35 PM
To: WISPA General List
Cc: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT RocketAC spotted on FCC site

No products currently available in AirMax like with airprism.

Thanks,
Ben

On Jul 2, 2014, at 3:33 PM, Josh Luthman 
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:

So when you said no products you mean no Airmax products?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Jul 2, 2014 5:32 PM, "Ben Moore" 
mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com>> wrote:
Yes nothing in AirMax yet.

Thanks,
Ben

On Jul 2, 2014, at 2:55 PM, Randy Cosby 
mailto:dco...@infowest.com>> wrote:
Unifi AP+?

On 7/2/2014 2:52 PM, Ben Moore wrote:
No products released yet with airprism...

Thanks,
Ben

On Jul 2, 2014, at 2:39 PM, Mathew Howard 
mailto:mat...@litewire.net>> wrote:
nevermind what I just said ;-)

So is anything besides the non-lite Rocket AC getting airprism at this point?


From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> 
[wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>] on behalf of 
Ben Moore [ben.mo...@ubnt.com<mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com>]
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 3:37 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT RocketAC spotted on FCC site
Lite = less cost, no airprism, etc...

Thanks,
Ben

On Jul 2, 2014, at 2:06 PM, Gino Villarini 
mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>> wrote:
So non-lite = $$$



Gino A. Villarini
President
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
www.aeronetpr.com<http://www.aeronetpr.com>
@aeronetpr



From: "ben.mo...@ubnt.com<mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com>" 
mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com>>
Reply-To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Date: Wednesday, July 2, 2014 at 3:51 PM
To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT RocketAC spotted on FCC site

See response in forum...

On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Josh Luthman 
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:
Matt,

The first post asked: "What does the LITE mean in the new Rocket M5 AC Lite?"

in which Ben totally skipped over answering it...


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
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On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 3:43 PM, Matt Hardy 
mailto:m...@ubnt.com>> wrote:
http://community.ubnt.com/t5/airMAX-General-Discussion/Rocket-M5-AC-Lite/m-p/900726#U900726

On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 3:41 PM, mailto:wi...@metrocom.ca>> 
wrote:
I saw that as well. But again, if this is the "Lite" product, is there a higher 
level product to come, perhaps with GPS?

Daniel Mullen
ISN Inc.

Josh Luthman mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> 
wrote ..
> Says PTMP comes with a firmware upgrade.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 3:09 PM, Zach Underwood 
> mailto:z...@zachunderwood.me>>
> wrote:
>
> > Have a look at this http://www.ubnt.com/airmax/rocket-ac/
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 2:44 PM, 
> > mailto:wi...@metrocom.ca>> wrote:
> >
> >> So if this is the 'Rocket M5 AC PTP Lite' you should expect something
> >> above this as well. Any ideas?
> >>
> >> Daniel Mullen
> >> ISN Inc.
> >>
> >>
> >> Gino Villarini mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>> wrote ..
> >> >
> >> https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/ViewExhibitReport.cfm?mode=Exhibits&RequestTimeout=500&calledFromFrame=N&application_id=527992&fcc_id=SWX-RM5ACPTP
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Gino A. Villarini
> >> > President
> >> > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> >> > www.aeronetpr.com<http://www.aeronetpr.com>
> >> > @aeronetpr
> >> >
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> > <http://cheapvpscloud.com/link.php?id=1>
> > My website <http://zachunderwood.me

Re: [WISPA] credit card processors

[Steve Barnes]

Josh are you billing your Wisp customer with QuickBooks? I would stop that 
practice. Get a billing system and keep QuickBooks for AP and GL.

Steve Barnes
PCSWIN.com

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 4:09 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] credit card processors

Who are using for credit card processing, and why? What are your rates?
-- 

Josh Reynolds, CIO
SPITwSPOTS
www.spitwspots.com

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Re: [WISPA] Mimosa B5-160 v UBNT AF5-US Chart (working)

[Steve Barnes]

Matt, nausea can be fixed with realism. I have used nothing but 5GHz backhauls 
for 8 years. Only in the last 2 years have we gone to any 5 GHz Client other 
than business.  I have 15 towers and each has at least 2 paths in and out for 
redundancy.  So that is 35+ Links.  Most are 5 miles or more so not an AF24 
candidate in my rain zone.  I can't afford to just go out and buy $175,000 
worth of licensed backhauls.  But for the price of one Licensed link I can buy 
2.5- 5GHz links (AF5, Mimosa, or whoever)  saving me $100,000 when all is said 
and done.  

Would I prefer to do all licensed and save all the 5GHz for Customer?  Heck 
Yes!!  But that is not the reality I live in.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCSWIN.com
Howard LLC.

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Matt Hoppes
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 2:03 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mimosa B5-160 v UBNT AF5-US Chart (working)

I guess... all this backhauling in 5GHz is just making me nauseous.



On 8/6/14, 1:48 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
> Higher one way throughput.
> More channels to choose from.
> DFS hit doesn't take your link down.
> External antennas.
> Once you add in those external antennas, there are a ton of things 
> that vary like X-pol and F/B.
> Lower power consumption.
> Standard PoE.
> Etc.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
> 
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentC
> omputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-
> computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> 
> --
> --
> *From: *"Matt Hoppes" 
> *To: *"WISPA General List" 
> *Sent: *Wednesday, August 6, 2014 12:40:36 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Mimosa B5-160 v UBNT AF5-US Chart (working)
> 
> THanks Josh!
> I'm not sure this puts the Mimosa device in a positive spot light?
> 
> H/V instead of cross-slant antennas.
> Pretty bad F/B compared to the airFiber.
> And latency is higher than an airFiber
> 
> What's the "amazing" thing about this new device?
> 
> On 8/5/14, 6:16 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gurmZ2nJru0e87DZuGxfipTB326NiP
> OTkLXNIXBDfdc/edit?usp=sharing
>>
>> submit comments for approval / additions please
>>
>> I'm waiting back on UBNT to help further fill in the chart, and some 
>> of it I'm lazy on.
>>
>> TODO: For sure, add bandwidth / distance / modulation / signal / 
>> channel width table
>>
>> Also, would like to hear Mimosa's PPS count, and see any results of 
>> an
>> RFC2544 test (which normally eats most wireless gear alive).
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Mimosa B5-160 v UBNT AF5-US Chart (working)

[Steve Barnes]

No I wrapped of the County and the City for the most they use me.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCSWIN.com
Howard LLC.

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Adair Winter
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 2:39 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mimosa B5-160 v UBNT AF5-US Chart (working)

I'm right there with ya Matt.

Steve,
Do you have any competitors in your area? City/County/Government putting up 
5ghz?

Around here there are 7 (including us) using 5ghz in a WISP/Managed services 
capacity. Add on the city doing a 1-3 antennas on every major intersection in 
town for traffic light control plus some of their own inter building 
connections and it's VERY busy in the main part of town. It's driving us to 
licensed links to get the bandwidth out of our data center where we can use DFS 
to make short jumps to sub towers.
Last week a competitor (wispa member) fired up a 5ghz link and took down an 
entire tower for us until we moved to a DFS channel then eventually they turned 
it off and we moved back to our original channel.
Unfortunately because of the distance to this tower I can't use DFS legally and 
because of channel usage don't have a second link. (sucks)

On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Matt Hoppes 
mailto:mhop...@indigowireless.com>> wrote:
I totally understand, Steve.

What I'm saying is now you have folks throwing up 5GHz 40MHz
backhauls ew.  I guess we'll say.  It's nice the options are out
there, but I wish they could be saved for use in the hands of WISPs only.


On 8/6/14, 2:17 PM, Steve Barnes wrote:
> Matt, nausea can be fixed with realism. I have used nothing but 5GHz 
> backhauls for 8 years. Only in the last 2 years have we gone to any 5 GHz 
> Client other than business.  I have 15 towers and each has at least 2 paths 
> in and out for redundancy.  So that is 35+ Links.  Most are 5 miles or more 
> so not an AF24 candidate in my rain zone.  I can't afford to just go out and 
> buy $175,000 worth of licensed backhauls.  But for the price of one Licensed 
> link I can buy 2.5- 5GHz links (AF5, Mimosa, or whoever)  saving me $100,000 
> when all is said and done.
>
> Would I prefer to do all licensed and save all the 5GHz for Customer?  Heck 
> Yes!!  But that is not the reality I live in.
>
> Steve Barnes
> General Manager
> PCSWIN.com
> Howard LLC.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> 
> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>] On 
> Behalf Of Matt Hoppes
> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 2:03 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mimosa B5-160 v UBNT AF5-US Chart (working)
>
> I guess... all this backhauling in 5GHz is just making me nauseous.
>
>
>
> On 8/6/14, 1:48 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>> Higher one way throughput.
>> More channels to choose from.
>> DFS hit doesn't take your link down.
>> External antennas.
>> Once you add in those external antennas, there are a ton of things
>> that vary like X-pol and F/B.
>> Lower power consumption.
>> Standard PoE.
>> Etc.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentC
>> omputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-
>> computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>
>> --
>> --
>> *From: *"Matt Hoppes" 
>> mailto:mhop...@indigowireless.com>>
>> *To: *"WISPA General List" mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
>> *Sent: *Wednesday, August 6, 2014 12:40:36 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Mimosa B5-160 v UBNT AF5-US Chart (working)
>>
>> THanks Josh!
>> I'm not sure this puts the Mimosa device in a positive spot light?
>>
>> H/V instead of cross-slant antennas.
>> Pretty bad F/B compared to the airFiber.
>> And latency is higher than an airFiber
>>
>> What's the "amazing" thing about this new device?
>>
>> On 8/5/14, 6:16 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>>
>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gurmZ2nJru0e87DZuGxfipTB326NiP
>> OTkLXNIXBDfdc/edit?usp=sharing
>>>
>>> submit comments for approval / additions please
>>>
>>> I'm waiting back on UBNT to help further fill in the chart, and some
>>> of it I'm lazy on.
>>>
>>> TODO: For sure, add bandwidth / dis

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[Steve Barnes]

Anybody interested in this.  I am out of town that day for travel.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCSWIN.com
Howard LLC.

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Re: [WISPA] NanoBeam Problems

[Steve Barnes]

We have had to reset them to factory and upgrade them in office before putting 
them out.
If you use a standard config file for all your radios, STOP! All configs are 
not created equal.  What we found was our NnoBidge config worked great on 
NanBeams until the next upgrade and then they crashed. We now have a separate 
config file for every model, every revision, and every firmware change we 
remake then all.

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCSWIN.com
Howard LLC.

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 3:15 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NanoBeam Problems

Nope I was wrong.  I just got a box of them and they're all 5.5.6.  These were 
airshipped and arrived this morning to my address.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 3:12 PM, Josh Reynolds 
mailto:j...@spitwspots.com>> wrote:
It's possible. Very old ones. Maybe beta only. I can't remember if 5.5.4 or 
5.5.6 was the first.

Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com<http://www.spitwspots.com>
On 09/16/2014 11:10 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
That doesn't seem possible...


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 3:09 PM, timothy steele 
mailto:timothy.pct...@gmail.com>> wrote:
A nano beam had 5.5.6 on it? That seems strange
—
Sent from Mailbox<https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox>


On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 3:05 PM, Josh Luthman 
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:

To 5.5.9 no.  Are you using the XW?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Sep 16, 2014 3:00 PM, "Bryce Duchcherer" 
mailto:bduc...@netago.ca>> wrote:
Anyone else having problems with nanobeams crashing after a firmware update?
It’s starting to be a common occurrence for us.

Bryce D
NETAGO


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