Re: [Xastir] Maps

[Lee Bengston]

I upgraded my laptop to Ubuntu 18.04 today, and I encountered the libcurl
issue.  The solution for me was to remove libcurl4-openssl-dev and install
libcurl4-gnutls-dev.  Recompiling Xastir after that change left me with an
installation with maps working normally.  In the map chooser, the
Online/OSM_tiled_mapnik.geo selection has been relatively bulletproof over
the years.  There is also an Online/USTigermap.geo selection that works
(and there are other Online map choices that work as well).

It's not clear from your message if your are looking to display any map
(either online or offline), or if you are looking for how to display an
offline map without an internet connection.  Also are you using the version
of Xastir that is provided by Ubuntu 18.10, or are you using a compiled
version downloaded from GitHub?  If you are using the one provided by
Ubuntu it may not be up to date enough to include the Tiger Map updates.

Lee - K5DAT


On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 6:37 PM Peter Lutz  wrote:

> I have been trying to get a map to appear on my newly installed xastir all
> afternoon.  The new installation was required when Ubuntu 18.04 broke the
> libcurl3/4 link.  I have been using xastir for many years, and usually
> manage
> to find some kind of map that works for Napa, CA and the surrounding area,
> but it is always without any idea of what I am really doing.  There is a
> lot
> of information (some of it very old) on the internet and in the README.MAPS
> file, but I can't find any example of how to get a map to appear.  Several
> different examples using the different formats would be really excellent,
> but just one working example might be enough to get me going.  I loved
> Tigermaps when they worked.
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thank you.
> --
> Peter Lutz  AA6AV
> Meaning is Homemade.
> www.p-lutz.net
>
>
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Re: [Xastir] Maps

[Steve Rogers]

I did ./update-xastir yesterday and received same result and the 260 font 
error. I deleted .xastir in home holder and src. And git cloned xastir again 
and maps are back.

My two cents...Ubuntu probably broken again like 10.04 desktop gnome issue. I 
am running ubuntu 16.04, using firenet we7u-wx,
Steve kd5mkv

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From: Xastir  on behalf of Peter Lutz 

Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 6:37 PM
To: xastir@lists.xastir.org
Subject: [Xastir] Maps

I have been trying to get a map to appear on my newly installed xastir all
afternoon. The new installation was required when Ubuntu 18.04 broke the
libcurl3/4 link. I have been using xastir for many years, and usually manage
to find some kind of map that works for Napa, CA and the surrounding area,
but it is always without any idea of what I am really doing. There is a lot
of information (some of it very old) on the internet and in the README.MAPS
file, but I can't find any example of how to get a map to appear. Several
different examples using the different formats would be really excellent,
but just one working example might be enough to get me going. I loved
Tigermaps when they worked.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you.
--
Peter Lutz AA6AV
Meaning is Homemade.
www.p-lutz.net
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[Xastir] Maps

[Peter Lutz]

I have been trying to get a map to appear on my newly installed xastir all
afternoon.  The new installation was required when Ubuntu 18.04 broke the
libcurl3/4 link.  I have been using xastir for many years, and usually manage
to find some kind of map that works for Napa, CA and the surrounding area,
but it is always without any idea of what I am really doing.  There is a lot
of information (some of it very old) on the internet and in the README.MAPS
file, but I can't find any example of how to get a map to appear.  Several
different examples using the different formats would be really excellent,
but just one working example might be enough to get me going.  I loved
Tigermaps when they worked.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you.
--
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[Xastir] Placing OSMTiles Directory in /usr/local/share/xastir/maps

[Jerry N7YGE]

The OSMTiles are all .png.  What command line is needed to use these tiles
offline and where would you place the command line?

Jerry N7YGE

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WE7U
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Subject: Re: [Xastir] Berkeley DB header files/shared library file do NOT
match!


The code is in xastir/src/map_cache.c:map_cache_init()

Notice there that debug level 5 will dump out the two strings it is
comparing.

Start Xastir from an xterm with "-v 5" and report back to us what the two
strings say on your system.

It might make sense there to always print out the two strings if/when the
warning is printed.

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Re: [Xastir] Maps

[Joseph LaFerla]

I was a bit apprehensive when I fired up the script (no offence Lee!) but it 
never coughed once.  Hopefully Dexter will have similar results.

Again, guys, thanks for your help.  Additional questions may arise with RUNNING 
xastir not INSTALLING it!



Joe
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From: David A Aitcheson
Sent: Monday, November 6, 2017 1:52 PM
To: Lee Bengston; Xastir - APRS client software discussion
Subject: Re: [Xastir] Maps

Then we await Sir Dexter's results report with great anticipation!

Dave - KB3EFS


On 11/06/2017 01:46 PM, Lee Bengston wrote:
> Fyi, Dex and I had some private email discussion prior to you sending
> Joe my way, and I expect the same solution will work for him.
>
> Lee - K5DAT
>
>
> On Nov 6, 2017 1:20 PM, "David A Aitcheson" <david.aitche...@gmail.com
> <mailto:david.aitche...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Lee,
>
> Joe was the easy to deal with "numerator", now comes the fun of
> getting
> "Sir Dexter from down under" working again... 
>
> Like I said in another email, I think he and Joe had a very similar
> issue. If Dexter can get his system back using your latest script then
> that makes the new script golden in my book.
>
> Dave - KB3EFS
>
>
> On 11/06/2017 12:49 PM, Lee Bengston wrote:
> > Update - Joe tried the new script I posted earlier today, which
> adds the
> > needed libwebp-dev package, and he said it worked, so he has
> online maps
> > now.
> >
> > Lee - K5DAT
> >
> >
> > On Nov 6, 2017 5:51 AM, "Lee Bengston" <lee.bengs...@gmail.com
> <mailto:lee.bengs...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >> Try installing libwebp-dev, i.e. sudo apt-get install
> libwebp-dev. Then
> >> recompile Xastir.
> >>
> >> There is a known problem with the graphicsmagick development
> package in
> >> the latest Ubuntu and Debian releases. It does not install
> libwebp-dev as a
> >> dependency.
> >>
> >> At the end of the output of the configure script there is a list of
> >> supported libraries, and without libwebp-dev installed you
> should have seen
> >> a "No" for Imagemagick/graphicsmagick support. Xastir needs
> that for online
> >> map support as well as support for some offline formats.  After
> installing
> >> libwebp-dev and running configure again you should see a "yes"
> on that line
> >>
> >> The above assumes you already installed the libgraphicsmagick1-dev
> >> package. If not, be sure to install that as well.
> >>
> >> Lee - K5DAT
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Nov 3, 2017 10:58 AM, "Joseph LaFerla" <j...@laferla.ca
> <mailto:j...@laferla.ca>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Yes I have expand dirs checked.  When I  moved to the source, I
> deleted
> >> .xastir and let xastir recreate the dir.
> >>
> >> Joe
> >>
> >>
> >> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
> >>
> >> From: Jason KG4WSV
> >> Sent: Friday, November 3, 2017 10:20 AM
> >> To: Xastir - APRS client software discussion
> >> Subject: Re: [Xastir] Maps
> >>
> >> Did you click "expand dirs" on map chooser? Maybe the maps you like
> >> were moved into a subdirectory (e.g. Online) and they're just not
> >> visible.
> >>
> >> It may be possible there were some maps present in the binary
> >> distribution /usr/share/xastir/maps that are no longer present?
> If you
> >> haven't removed the binary xastir yet, take a look at
> >> /usr/share/xastir/maps and compare to
> /usr/local/share/xastir/maps .
> >>
> >> -Jason
> >> kg4wsv
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Re: [Xastir] Maps

[David A Aitcheson]

Then we await Sir Dexter's results report with great anticipation!

Dave - KB3EFS


On 11/06/2017 01:46 PM, Lee Bengston wrote:
> Fyi, Dex and I had some private email discussion prior to you sending
> Joe my way, and I expect the same solution will work for him.
>
> Lee - K5DAT
>
>
> On Nov 6, 2017 1:20 PM, "David A Aitcheson" <david.aitche...@gmail.com
> <mailto:david.aitche...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Lee,
>
> Joe was the easy to deal with "numerator", now comes the fun of
> getting
> "Sir Dexter from down under" working again... 
>
> Like I said in another email, I think he and Joe had a very similar
> issue. If Dexter can get his system back using your latest script then
> that makes the new script golden in my book.
>
> Dave - KB3EFS
>
>
> On 11/06/2017 12:49 PM, Lee Bengston wrote:
> > Update - Joe tried the new script I posted earlier today, which
> adds the
> > needed libwebp-dev package, and he said it worked, so he has
> online maps
> > now.
> >
> > Lee - K5DAT
> >
> >
> > On Nov 6, 2017 5:51 AM, "Lee Bengston" <lee.bengs...@gmail.com
> <mailto:lee.bengs...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >> Try installing libwebp-dev, i.e. sudo apt-get install
> libwebp-dev. Then
> >> recompile Xastir.
> >>
> >> There is a known problem with the graphicsmagick development
> package in
> >> the latest Ubuntu and Debian releases. It does not install
> libwebp-dev as a
> >> dependency.
> >>
> >> At the end of the output of the configure script there is a list of
> >> supported libraries, and without libwebp-dev installed you
> should have seen
> >> a "No" for Imagemagick/graphicsmagick support. Xastir needs
> that for online
> >> map support as well as support for some offline formats.  After
> installing
> >> libwebp-dev and running configure again you should see a "yes"
> on that line
> >>
> >> The above assumes you already installed the libgraphicsmagick1-dev
> >> package. If not, be sure to install that as well.
> >>
> >> Lee - K5DAT
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Nov 3, 2017 10:58 AM, "Joseph LaFerla" <j...@laferla.ca
> <mailto:j...@laferla.ca>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Yes I have expand dirs checked.  When I  moved to the source, I
> deleted
> >> .xastir and let xastir recreate the dir.
> >>
> >> Joe
> >>
> >>
> >> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
> >>
> >> From: Jason KG4WSV
> >> Sent: Friday, November 3, 2017 10:20 AM
> >> To: Xastir - APRS client software discussion
> >> Subject: Re: [Xastir] Maps
> >>
> >> Did you click "expand dirs" on map chooser? Maybe the maps you like
> >> were moved into a subdirectory (e.g. Online) and they're just not
> >> visible.
> >>
> >> It may be possible there were some maps present in the binary
> >> distribution /usr/share/xastir/maps that are no longer present?
> If you
> >> haven't removed the binary xastir yet, take a look at
> >> /usr/share/xastir/maps and compare to
> /usr/local/share/xastir/maps .
> >>
> >> -Jason
> >> kg4wsv
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Re: [Xastir] Maps

[Lee Bengston]

Fyi, Dex and I had some private email discussion prior to you sending Joe
my way, and I expect the same solution will work for him.

Lee - K5DAT


On Nov 6, 2017 1:20 PM, "David A Aitcheson" <david.aitche...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Lee,

Joe was the easy to deal with "numerator", now comes the fun of getting
"Sir Dexter from down under" working again... 

Like I said in another email, I think he and Joe had a very similar
issue. If Dexter can get his system back using your latest script then
that makes the new script golden in my book.

Dave - KB3EFS


On 11/06/2017 12:49 PM, Lee Bengston wrote:
> Update - Joe tried the new script I posted earlier today, which adds the
> needed libwebp-dev package, and he said it worked, so he has online maps
> now.
>
> Lee - K5DAT
>
>
> On Nov 6, 2017 5:51 AM, "Lee Bengston" <lee.bengs...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Try installing libwebp-dev, i.e. sudo apt-get install libwebp-dev. Then
>> recompile Xastir.
>>
>> There is a known problem with the graphicsmagick development package in
>> the latest Ubuntu and Debian releases. It does not install libwebp-dev
as a
>> dependency.
>>
>> At the end of the output of the configure script there is a list of
>> supported libraries, and without libwebp-dev installed you should have
seen
>> a "No" for Imagemagick/graphicsmagick support. Xastir needs that for
online
>> map support as well as support for some offline formats.  After
installing
>> libwebp-dev and running configure again you should see a "yes" on that
line
>>
>> The above assumes you already installed the libgraphicsmagick1-dev
>> package. If not, be sure to install that as well.
>>
>> Lee - K5DAT
>>
>>
>>
>> On Nov 3, 2017 10:58 AM, "Joseph LaFerla" <j...@laferla.ca> wrote:
>>
>> Yes I have expand dirs checked.  When I  moved to the source, I deleted
>> .xastir and let xastir recreate the dir.
>>
>> Joe
>>
>>
>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>>
>> From: Jason KG4WSV
>> Sent: Friday, November 3, 2017 10:20 AM
>> To: Xastir - APRS client software discussion
>> Subject: Re: [Xastir] Maps
>>
>> Did you click "expand dirs" on map chooser? Maybe the maps you like
>> were moved into a subdirectory (e.g. Online) and they're just not
>> visible.
>>
>> It may be possible there were some maps present in the binary
>> distribution /usr/share/xastir/maps that are no longer present? If you
>> haven't removed the binary xastir yet, take a look at
>> /usr/share/xastir/maps and compare to /usr/local/share/xastir/maps .
>>
>> -Jason
>> kg4wsv
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Re: [Xastir] Maps

[David A Aitcheson]

Lee,

Joe was the easy to deal with "numerator", now comes the fun of getting
"Sir Dexter from down under" working again... 

Like I said in another email, I think he and Joe had a very similar
issue. If Dexter can get his system back using your latest script then
that makes the new script golden in my book.

Dave - KB3EFS


On 11/06/2017 12:49 PM, Lee Bengston wrote:
> Update - Joe tried the new script I posted earlier today, which adds the
> needed libwebp-dev package, and he said it worked, so he has online maps
> now.
>
> Lee - K5DAT
>
>
> On Nov 6, 2017 5:51 AM, "Lee Bengston" <lee.bengs...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Try installing libwebp-dev, i.e. sudo apt-get install libwebp-dev. Then
>> recompile Xastir.
>>
>> There is a known problem with the graphicsmagick development package in
>> the latest Ubuntu and Debian releases. It does not install libwebp-dev as a
>> dependency.
>>
>> At the end of the output of the configure script there is a list of
>> supported libraries, and without libwebp-dev installed you should have seen
>> a "No" for Imagemagick/graphicsmagick support. Xastir needs that for online
>> map support as well as support for some offline formats.  After installing
>> libwebp-dev and running configure again you should see a "yes" on that line
>>
>> The above assumes you already installed the libgraphicsmagick1-dev
>> package. If not, be sure to install that as well.
>>
>> Lee - K5DAT
>>
>>
>>
>> On Nov 3, 2017 10:58 AM, "Joseph LaFerla" <j...@laferla.ca> wrote:
>>
>> Yes I have expand dirs checked.  When I  moved to the source, I deleted
>> .xastir and let xastir recreate the dir.
>>
>> Joe
>>
>>
>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>>
>> From: Jason KG4WSV
>> Sent: Friday, November 3, 2017 10:20 AM
>> To: Xastir - APRS client software discussion
>> Subject: Re: [Xastir] Maps
>>
>> Did you click "expand dirs" on map chooser? Maybe the maps you like
>> were moved into a subdirectory (e.g. Online) and they're just not
>> visible.
>>
>> It may be possible there were some maps present in the binary
>> distribution /usr/share/xastir/maps that are no longer present? If you
>> haven't removed the binary xastir yet, take a look at
>> /usr/share/xastir/maps and compare to /usr/local/share/xastir/maps .
>>
>> -Jason
>> kg4wsv
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Re: [Xastir] Maps

[Lee Bengston]

Update - Joe tried the new script I posted earlier today, which adds the
needed libwebp-dev package, and he said it worked, so he has online maps
now.

Lee - K5DAT


On Nov 6, 2017 5:51 AM, "Lee Bengston" <lee.bengs...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Try installing libwebp-dev, i.e. sudo apt-get install libwebp-dev. Then
> recompile Xastir.
>
> There is a known problem with the graphicsmagick development package in
> the latest Ubuntu and Debian releases. It does not install libwebp-dev as a
> dependency.
>
> At the end of the output of the configure script there is a list of
> supported libraries, and without libwebp-dev installed you should have seen
> a "No" for Imagemagick/graphicsmagick support. Xastir needs that for online
> map support as well as support for some offline formats.  After installing
> libwebp-dev and running configure again you should see a "yes" on that line
>
> The above assumes you already installed the libgraphicsmagick1-dev
> package. If not, be sure to install that as well.
>
> Lee - K5DAT
>
>
>
> On Nov 3, 2017 10:58 AM, "Joseph LaFerla" <j...@laferla.ca> wrote:
>
> Yes I have expand dirs checked.  When I  moved to the source, I deleted
> .xastir and let xastir recreate the dir.
>
> Joe
>
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
> From: Jason KG4WSV
> Sent: Friday, November 3, 2017 10:20 AM
> To: Xastir - APRS client software discussion
> Subject: Re: [Xastir] Maps
>
> Did you click "expand dirs" on map chooser? Maybe the maps you like
> were moved into a subdirectory (e.g. Online) and they're just not
> visible.
>
> It may be possible there were some maps present in the binary
> distribution /usr/share/xastir/maps that are no longer present? If you
> haven't removed the binary xastir yet, take a look at
> /usr/share/xastir/maps and compare to /usr/local/share/xastir/maps .
>
> -Jason
> kg4wsv
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Re: [Xastir] Maps

[Lee Bengston]

Try installing libwebp-dev, i.e. sudo apt-get install libwebp-dev. Then
recompile Xastir.

There is a known problem with the graphicsmagick development package in the
latest Ubuntu and Debian releases. It does not install libwebp-dev as a
dependency.

At the end of the output of the configure script there is a list of
supported libraries, and without libwebp-dev installed you should have seen
a "No" for Imagemagick/graphicsmagick support. Xastir needs that for online
map support as well as support for some offline formats.  After installing
libwebp-dev and running configure again you should see a "yes" on that line

The above assumes you already installed the libgraphicsmagick1-dev package.
If not, be sure to install that as well.

Lee - K5DAT



On Nov 3, 2017 10:58 AM, "Joseph LaFerla" <j...@laferla.ca> wrote:

Yes I have expand dirs checked.  When I  moved to the source, I deleted
.xastir and let xastir recreate the dir.

Joe


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From: Jason KG4WSV
Sent: Friday, November 3, 2017 10:20 AM
To: Xastir - APRS client software discussion
Subject: Re: [Xastir] Maps

Did you click "expand dirs" on map chooser? Maybe the maps you like
were moved into a subdirectory (e.g. Online) and they're just not
visible.

It may be possible there were some maps present in the binary
distribution /usr/share/xastir/maps that are no longer present? If you
haven't removed the binary xastir yet, take a look at
/usr/share/xastir/maps and compare to /usr/local/share/xastir/maps .

-Jason
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Re: [Xastir] Maps

[Joseph LaFerla]

Yes I have expand dirs checked.  When I  moved to the source, I deleted .xastir 
and let xastir recreate the dir.

Joe


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From: Jason KG4WSV
Sent: Friday, November 3, 2017 10:20 AM
To: Xastir - APRS client software discussion
Subject: Re: [Xastir] Maps

Did you click "expand dirs" on map chooser? Maybe the maps you like
were moved into a subdirectory (e.g. Online) and they're just not
visible.

It may be possible there were some maps present in the binary
distribution /usr/share/xastir/maps that are no longer present? If you
haven't removed the binary xastir yet, take a look at
/usr/share/xastir/maps and compare to /usr/local/share/xastir/maps .

-Jason
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Re: [Xastir] Maps

[Joseph LaFerla]

I seem to have everything correct.  When I moved from the binary, I did not 
save any maps.  What maps should I have with a clean install from source?  And 
like I said, the maps ARE listed in the Map Chooser and they ARE 
in/usr/local/share/xastir/maps, it’s just that when I select any one of them a 
map does not show up.

The STDERR output says that  geo maps are supported.  I did have maps in the 
binary distribution but I did not save them.  And I deleted .xastir and had 
xastir recreate the directory.

Joe

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From: Curt, WE7U
Sent: Friday, November 3, 2017 10:32 AM
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Subject: Re: [Xastir] Maps

On Fri, 3 Nov 2017, Jason KG4WSV wrote:

> Did you click "expand dirs" on map chooser? Maybe the maps you like
> were moved into a subdirectory (e.g. Online) and they're just not
> visible.
>
> It may be possible there were some maps present in the binary
> distribution /usr/share/xastir/maps that are no longer present? If you
> haven't removed the binary xastir yet, take a look at
> /usr/share/xastir/maps and compare to /usr/local/share/xastir/maps .

One of the FAQ questions may give you additional hints too:

http://xastir.org/index.php/Frequently_Asked_Questions#Why_don.27t_the_maps_I_installed_show_up_in_the_Map_Chooser.3F

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Re: [Xastir] Maps

[Curt, WE7U]

On Fri, 3 Nov 2017, Jason KG4WSV wrote:


Did you click "expand dirs" on map chooser? Maybe the maps you like
were moved into a subdirectory (e.g. Online) and they're just not
visible.

It may be possible there were some maps present in the binary
distribution /usr/share/xastir/maps that are no longer present? If you
haven't removed the binary xastir yet, take a look at
/usr/share/xastir/maps and compare to /usr/local/share/xastir/maps .


One of the FAQ questions may give you additional hints too:

http://xastir.org/index.php/Frequently_Asked_Questions#Why_don.27t_the_maps_I_installed_show_up_in_the_Map_Chooser.3F

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Re: [Xastir] Maps

[Jason KG4WSV]

Did you click "expand dirs" on map chooser? Maybe the maps you like
were moved into a subdirectory (e.g. Online) and they're just not
visible.

It may be possible there were some maps present in the binary
distribution /usr/share/xastir/maps that are no longer present? If you
haven't removed the binary xastir yet, take a look at
/usr/share/xastir/maps and compare to /usr/local/share/xastir/maps .

-Jason
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Re: [Xastir] Maps

[Curt, WE7U]

On Fri, 3 Nov 2017, Joseph LaFerla wrote:


Thanks for this.  Actually I have already made those changes to 
/usr/local/share and the two maps DO appear in the Map Chooser but when I 
select either of them all I get is a grey background screen.  All the stations 
are there, just not the map.  Other than worldhi.map, I have two other maps in 
Map Chooser, geogratis.gc.ca and nationalmap.gov, but neither of them give me 
any map.


Make sure Auto Maps is turned off. You may be loading multiple map sets and the 
last one loaded wins.

For raster maps you typically want to only load one. You can then load vector 
maps on top of it.

For vector maps you can load multiples because they don't cover each other up.

It could be something else entirely that's causing your problem, but check Auto 
Maps first.

Map -> Enable Auto Maps -> OFF

Make sure when you're learning Xastir you only check one map at a time in Map 
Chooser. Once you get the hang of it you can make map stackups that are more 
complicated.

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Re: [Xastir] Maps

[Joseph LaFerla]

Hi Steve

Thanks for this.  Actually I have already made those changes to 
/usr/local/share and the two maps DO appear in the Map Chooser but when I 
select either of them all I get is a grey background screen.  All the stations 
are there, just not the map.  Other than worldhi.map, I have two other maps in 
Map Chooser, geogratis.gc.ca and nationalmap.gov, but neither of them give me 
any map.

Joe


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Subject: Re: [Xastir] Maps

Your maps are in a binary folder, you need to change this:


Then you need to edit your ~/.xastir/config/xastir.cnf file to change all 
occurances of "/usr/share" to "/usr/local/share"


Using nano edit auto map directories and the other maps files from /usr/share 
to /usr/local/share

Be careful to edit just the map directories and you should have your online 
maps again.
kd5mkv Steve


From: Xastir <xastir-boun...@lists.xastir.org> on behalf of Joseph LaFerla 
<j...@laferla.ca>
Sent: Friday, November 3, 2017 6:41 AM
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Subject: [Xastir] Maps

Hi

With the help of many yesterday I was able to install xastir from source and 
get it to work – with one exception.  I forgot to save any maps from my 
previous binary version. Now although xastir works fine, I have no map 
displayed.  The map chooser shows geogratis.gc.ca and nationalmap.gov but 
selecting either of these makes no difference.  In my binary version, the 
default install gave me a couple of tiled *.fosm maps which worked fine.   
Selecting the worldhi.map does work but does not provide a very nice map.  What 
do I need to do to get a map working?

Thanks.

Joe
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[Xastir] Maps

[Joseph LaFerla]

Hi 

With the help of many yesterday I was able to install xastir from source and 
get it to work – with one exception.  I forgot to save any maps from my 
previous binary version. Now although xastir works fine, I have no map 
displayed.  The map chooser shows geogratis.gc.ca and nationalmap.gov but 
selecting either of these makes no difference.  In my binary version, the 
default install gave me a couple of tiled *.fosm maps which worked fine.   
Selecting the worldhi.map does work but does not provide a very nice map.  What 
do I need to do to get a map working?

Thanks.

Joe
Va3JLF


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Re: [Xastir] maps

[Filip M. Stanic]

On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 02:25:49PM +, Steve Rogers wrote:
> Hello I helping a local friend install xastir and his maps, are not show, ie 
> tiled cycle the online maps. I am not at
> 
> his terminal and the xastirwiki is offline.
>  Which version of graphicsmagik is for ubuntu 14.04 using git for v 2.0.9?

Hi,

maybe this article/guide could be of some help.

https://yt7fms.wordpress.com/2016/10/26/build-xastir-from-source-2-0-9-graphicsmagick-problem/

I have written this as I was having issues with graphicsmagik
with Xastir 2.0.9 version.

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Re: [Xastir] maps

[Steve Rogers]

I believe it may have disable auto maps checked!

But will get him going soon!

thanks David

73 steve kd5mkv



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Hello Steve,

Your stock version of GraphicsMagik should be fine for Ubuntu. Which
tiled maps are you trying to use?  "Online / OSM_tiled_fosm.geo" is
working here.

Btw, beyond the excellent Xastir wiki, these crib notes might help you
configure Xastir as well:

http://www.trinityos.com/HAM/CentosDigitalModes/hampacketizing-centos.html#19b4.xastir-running
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Re: [Xastir] maps

[Steve Rogers]

Thanks  Curt!

Steve kd5mkv



From: Xastir <xastir-boun...@lists.xastir.org> on behalf of Curt Mills 
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Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 9:11 AM
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Subject: Re: [Xastir] maps

Looks like httpd shut down yesterday. I applied the latest OS patches and
rebooted it. It's back.

BTW: We're under constant attack there on the SSH and the HTTP ports.
There's quite a list of banned IP's in the firewall. Part of doing business
these days.

On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 6:25 AM, Steve Rogers <kd5...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Hello I helping a local friend install xastir and his maps, are not show,
> ie tiled cycle the online maps. I am not at
>
> his terminal and the xastirwiki is offline.
>  Which version of graphicsmagik is for ubuntu 14.04 using git for v 2.0.9?
>
> Thanks Steve kd5mkv
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Re: [Xastir] maps

[David Ranch]

Hello Steve,

Your stock version of GraphicsMagik should be fine for Ubuntu. Which 
tiled maps are you trying to use?  "Online / OSM_tiled_fosm.geo" is 
working here.


Btw, beyond the excellent Xastir wiki, these crib notes might help you 
configure Xastir as well:


http://www.trinityos.com/HAM/CentosDigitalModes/hampacketizing-centos.html#19b4.xastir-running


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Re: [Xastir] maps

[Curt Mills]

Looks like httpd shut down yesterday. I applied the latest OS patches and
rebooted it. It's back.

BTW: We're under constant attack there on the SSH and the HTTP ports.
There's quite a list of banned IP's in the firewall. Part of doing business
these days.

On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 6:25 AM, Steve Rogers  wrote:

> Hello I helping a local friend install xastir and his maps, are not show,
> ie tiled cycle the online maps. I am not at
>
> his terminal and the xastirwiki is offline.
>  Which version of graphicsmagik is for ubuntu 14.04 using git for v 2.0.9?
>
> Thanks Steve kd5mkv
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[Xastir] maps

[Steve Rogers]

Hello I helping a local friend install xastir and his maps, are not show, ie 
tiled cycle the online maps. I am not at

his terminal and the xastirwiki is offline.
 Which version of graphicsmagik is for ubuntu 14.04 using git for v 2.0.9?

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Re: [Xastir] Maps

[Dale Miller]

On 8/18/2016 11:42 PM, Curt Mills wrote:

Shut down Xastir and edit ~/.xstir/config/selected_maps.sys

You might have a map listed in there that is slightly different than what
you have in the map chooser for some reason, so it doesn't show.

Another possibility is that you might have Automaps enabled. Disable that.
More than likely you're loading the maps you want PLUS the other map which
ends up getting drawn on top.




Yep..didn't see Auto Maps...fixed it right away.
Thanks Curt!


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Re: [Xastir] Maps

[Curt Mills]

Shut down Xastir and edit ~/.xstir/config/selected_maps.sys

You might have a map listed in there that is slightly different than what
you have in the map chooser for some reason, so it doesn't show.

Another possibility is that you might have Automaps enabled. Disable that.
More than likely you're loading the maps you want PLUS the other map which
ends up getting drawn on top.


On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 9:20 PM, Dale Miller  wrote:

> I have a new to me system that I did a fresh install of Peppermint OS 7.
>
> Peppermint OS 7 is a Ubuntu Distro build of Ubuntu 16.04.
>
> I used the new git source and everything seems to be installed correctly
> and the maps all seem to be there.
>
> For some reason with any of the Online maps I get nothing but the worldhi
> map even though it isn't the chosen map in the map chooser.
>
> Any ideas why?
>
>
>
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[Dale Miller]

I have a new to me system that I did a fresh install of Peppermint OS 7.

Peppermint OS 7 is a Ubuntu Distro build of Ubuntu 16.04.

I used the new git source and everything seems to be installed correctly 
and the maps all seem to be there.


For some reason with any of the Online maps I get nothing but the 
worldhi map even though it isn't the chosen map in the map chooser.


Any ideas why?



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Re: [Xastir] Maps?

[David Ranch]

Hey Jason,

There was some great threads on the offline tile server topic earlier 
this year and while I can do the work, the storage requirements seemed 
pretty high.  My biggest issue is that I'm just not very happy with OSM 
in terms of having pretty maps. Google Maps say on aprs.fi are far 
easier to read, etc. but Google's terms don't allow tile caching for 
offline use, etc.


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On 07/15/2016 09:42 AM, Jason Godfrey wrote:

On the topic of pretty offline maps, I have followed online directions to
setup my own local OSM tile server and then created an xastir mapfile to
point to localhost. It's not trivial, but if you are comfortable with basic
system administration and building codes it is doable.


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Re: [Xastir] Maps?

[Kurt]

We "needs" something ready made that neophytes and the geographically, 
academically impaired can just drop in a directoryre-index and then go.  I 
still have around some of the old Tiger 2006 and Cloudmade maps from 2008 from 
mine and surrounding states.  It's just too derned easy to have a drop-in 
solution.I believe that's what keeps the program from being used by more folks. 
 I probably would have stayed away from the program yearsago if it weren't for 
the ready-made solutions available at the time.The Xastir compiling scripts 
were really great to get all the bits and pieces into the program so one could 
experiment.Kurt KC9LDH

  
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[Jason Godfrey]

On the topic of pretty offline maps, I have followed online directions to
setup my own local OSM tile server and then created an xastir mapfile to
point to localhost. It's not trivial, but if you are comfortable with basic
system administration and building codes it is doable.

- Jason

On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 11:24 AM Curt Mills  wrote:

> On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 8:54 AM, David Ranch  wrote:
>
> >
> > I've never used any of this dbfawk capability before but beyond it's
> > offline ability, I've always been curious on it's performance benefits,
> > maybe it's better looking than OSM, etc.  Could you post some screen
> > captures of what things look like on your tuned dbfawk setup with a zoom
> of
> > 128 compared to say Online/OSM_tiled_mapquest.geo (works well but always
> > strikes me as a bit "dark".
> >
> > Maybe when you have a good example of what can be done with dbfawk, you
> > can check it into Git and I can load it in to check it out?  Though I've
> > never used this feature, my Xastir build is fully featured so it "should"
> > work.  (famous last words)
> >
>
> Vector maps aren't all that pretty, but they're fast! No point in sending
> an image 'cuz you'd be disappointed compared to raster maps as far as
> "pretty".
>
> Xastir has ESRI Shapefile capability built-in. This gives you vector maps
> with one-pixel-wide all-black lines, displayed at all zoom levels.
>
> To change the display of these lines so they are wider based on certain
> parameters (number of lanes perhaps, rivers versus creeks perhaps), to
> change the colors of objects, or to make some things visible at some zoom
> levels but not at others, you use dbfawk files to do this. Also: If you
> want any of the objects labeled you need dbfawks.
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On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 8:54 AM, David Ranch  wrote:

>
> I've never used any of this dbfawk capability before but beyond it's
> offline ability, I've always been curious on it's performance benefits,
> maybe it's better looking than OSM, etc.  Could you post some screen
> captures of what things look like on your tuned dbfawk setup with a zoom of
> 128 compared to say Online/OSM_tiled_mapquest.geo (works well but always
> strikes me as a bit "dark".
>
> Maybe when you have a good example of what can be done with dbfawk, you
> can check it into Git and I can load it in to check it out?  Though I've
> never used this feature, my Xastir build is fully featured so it "should"
> work.  (famous last words)
>

Vector maps aren't all that pretty, but they're fast! No point in sending
an image 'cuz you'd be disappointed compared to raster maps as far as
"pretty".

Xastir has ESRI Shapefile capability built-in. This gives you vector maps
with one-pixel-wide all-black lines, displayed at all zoom levels.

To change the display of these lines so they are wider based on certain
parameters (number of lanes perhaps, rivers versus creeks perhaps), to
change the colors of objects, or to make some things visible at some zoom
levels but not at others, you use dbfawk files to do this. Also: If you
want any of the objects labeled you need dbfawks.

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[David Ranch]

Hey Curt,

I've never used any of this dbfawk capability before but beyond it's 
offline ability, I've always been curious on it's performance benefits, 
maybe it's better looking than OSM, etc.  Could you post some screen 
captures of what things look like on your tuned dbfawk setup with a zoom 
of 128 compared to say Online/OSM_tiled_mapquest.geo (works well but 
always strikes me as a bit "dark".


Maybe when you have a good example of what can be done with dbfawk, you 
can check it into Git and I can load it in to check it out?  Though I've 
never used this feature, my Xastir build is fully featured so it 
"should" work.  (famous last words)


--David
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On 07/15/2016 07:34 AM, Curt Mills wrote:

I should have specified that this is only for the Git version of Xastir
(development version). If you're running that version already do a "git
pull" to get the latest, then configure/build/install Xastir again to get
the latest files installed.

For those not running the latest, you can snag the dbfawk files directly
from GitHub and put them in place yourself. It's just a bit more work.

If you don't care about offline mapping, then skip this QSO entirely and
keep mapping on.


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[Curt Mills]

I should have specified that this is only for the Git version of Xastir
(development version). If you're running that version already do a "git
pull" to get the latest, then configure/build/install Xastir again to get
the latest files installed.

For those not running the latest, you can snag the dbfawk files directly
from GitHub and put them in place yourself. It's just a bit more work.

If you don't care about offline mapping, then skip this QSO entirely and
keep mapping on.


On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 7:29 AM, Curt Mills  wrote:

>
>
> On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 3:26 PM, Curt Mills  wrote:
>
>> http://xastir.org/index.php/HowTo:DBFAWK
>>
>> I looked at the geofabrik.de files a bit for WA. There don't appear to
>> be land-mass layer or lake layers, but otherwise they look good. I have
>> roads and water layers displaying already but the dbfawk's could use more
>> work. Will see if I can get the initial very-rough dbfawk's checked in so
>> others can play with them.
>>
>
> These seem to be fairly complete and are updated often. Gives you another
> offline map option for OSM maps.
>
> The initial support for geofabrik.de maps in Xastir's dbfawk files is for
> "roads" and "waterways".
>
> Xastir displays "buildings", "landuse", "natural", and "railways" as well,
> but there aren't any dbfawk files for them yet so no labels, changes on
> zoom level, colors etc for those. As far as "places" and "points": Without
> labels they are useless.
>
> What the maps are missing: Lakes and land masses. Here's what I did to
> make a nice map stackup with offline maps:
>
> *) Use the county Shapefile set from the weather alerts as the land mass.
> In my case "c_05ap16". I just made a link from my map directory back to the
> "/usr/local/share/xastir/Counties" directory where the weather alert maps
> reside, then reindexed maps and those files show up in the Map Chooser.
>
> *) Use "lk17de98" for the lakes. Don't remember where I got it but I have
> it in maps/World/USA/ directory along with a bunch of USA-wide maps.
>
> *) Enable "buildings", "landuse", "roadways", "roads", and "waterways"
> from the geofabrik.de maps
>
> *) Click on Map Chooser->Properties. Set layer for "lk17de98.shp" to 999
> and for "c_05ap16" to 998. This makes the land get drawn first, then the
> lakes, then the geofabrik.de maps.
>
> *) Map -> Configure -> Background Color -> Navy Blue
>
> Now you'll see ocean with land masses drawn on top, lakes on top of that,
> then the other features drawn on top of that. Looks good and pans/zooms
> fast 'cuz they're all vector maps.
>
> There's a lot that can be (and should be) done yet with the dbfawk files
> for geofabrik.de maps. I did the minimum tweaks to make them start
> working in Xastir. Most of the lines in there are original lines from the
> files I copied to make them, so those lines don't apply to the
> geofabrik.de maps.
>
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On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 3:26 PM, Curt Mills  wrote:

> http://xastir.org/index.php/HowTo:DBFAWK
>
> I looked at the geofabrik.de files a bit for WA. There don't appear to be
> land-mass layer or lake layers, but otherwise they look good. I have roads
> and water layers displaying already but the dbfawk's could use more work.
> Will see if I can get the initial very-rough dbfawk's checked in so others
> can play with them.
>

These seem to be fairly complete and are updated often. Gives you another
offline map option for OSM maps.

The initial support for geofabrik.de maps in Xastir's dbfawk files is for
"roads" and "waterways".

Xastir displays "buildings", "landuse", "natural", and "railways" as well,
but there aren't any dbfawk files for them yet so no labels, changes on
zoom level, colors etc for those. As far as "places" and "points": Without
labels they are useless.

What the maps are missing: Lakes and land masses. Here's what I did to make
a nice map stackup with offline maps:

*) Use the county Shapefile set from the weather alerts as the land mass.
In my case "c_05ap16". I just made a link from my map directory back to the
"/usr/local/share/xastir/Counties" directory where the weather alert maps
reside, then reindexed maps and those files show up in the Map Chooser.

*) Use "lk17de98" for the lakes. Don't remember where I got it but I have
it in maps/World/USA/ directory along with a bunch of USA-wide maps.

*) Enable "buildings", "landuse", "roadways", "roads", and "waterways" from
the geofabrik.de maps

*) Click on Map Chooser->Properties. Set layer for "lk17de98.shp" to 999
and for "c_05ap16" to 998. This makes the land get drawn first, then the
lakes, then the geofabrik.de maps.

*) Map -> Configure -> Background Color -> Navy Blue

Now you'll see ocean with land masses drawn on top, lakes on top of that,
then the other features drawn on top of that. Looks good and pans/zooms
fast 'cuz they're all vector maps.

There's a lot that can be (and should be) done yet with the dbfawk files
for geofabrik.de maps. I did the minimum tweaks to make them start working
in Xastir. Most of the lines in there are original lines from the files I
copied to make them, so those lines don't apply to the geofabrik.de maps.

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Re: [Xastir] Maps?

[Curt Mills]

http://xastir.org/index.php/HowTo:DBFAWK

I looked at the geofabrik.de files a bit for WA. There don't appear to be
land-mass layer or lake layers, but otherwise they look good. I have roads
and water layers displaying already but the dbfawk's could use more work.
Will see if I can get the initial very-rough dbfawk's checked in so others
can play with them.

On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 3:22 PM, Dale Seaburg <kg...@verizon.net> wrote:

> With regards to this latest digest note from Curt, is there a wiki entry
> somewhere dealing with making / modifying dbfawk files?
> I still have my Tigerline maps from 200x vintage for all 254 counties in
> Texas.  I recall having to make a few changes some time ago, but I've slept
> since then.  ;-)
>
> Dale.
> KG5LT
>
> Message: 7 Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 13:37:32 -0700 From: Curt Mills <
>> curt.w...@gmail.com> To: Xastir - APRS client software discussion <
>> xastir@lists.xastir.org> Subject: Re: [Xastir] Maps? Message-ID:
>> 

Re: [Xastir] Maps?

[Dale Seaburg]

With regards to this latest digest note from Curt, is there a wiki entry 
somewhere dealing with making / modifying dbfawk files?
I still have my Tigerline maps from 200x vintage for all 254 counties in 
Texas.  I recall having to make a few changes some time ago, but I've 
slept since then.  ;-)


Dale.
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Re: [Xastir] Maps?

[Curt Mills]

Another:  https://www.census.gov/geo/maps-data/data/tiger-line.html

With a quick reading it looks like the Tigermaps from 2007 to 2015 are all
the same format, but please someone correct me if I'm wrong. If that's the
case, the 2015 ones should work fine in Xastir: 2008 was the last format we
integrated in with dbfawk files. Of course one of the things map providers
tend to do is change the signature on the DBF files. If they've done that,
then you have to create new dbfawk files to go with them to do the mapping
for Xastir.


On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 1:33 PM, Curt Mills  wrote:

> Here's one place it appears you can get OSM Shapefile extracts:
>
> http://download.geofabrik.de/
>
> Again, you most likely will have to create dbfawk files to go with them.
> It's not terribly difficult.
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 1:19 PM, Curt Mills  wrote:
>
>> I'm currently using online maps: "Online/OSM_tiled_mapnik.geo"
>>
>> You may have to hunt for an OSM extract in Shapefile format. I used to
>> use the "cloudmade" extracts and still have the ones for WA on this
>> computer I think.
>>
>> You should be able to get quite a few different ones that use ESRI
>> Shapefile format working in Xastir, including Tigermap Shapefile maps. We
>> made the Tigermap Shapefiles work a few years ago, and one of my buddies
>> has been asking about getting the latest ones working... It's not that much
>> work to get new ones integrated in. It's usually just writing some more
>> "dbfawk" files to go with them.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 12:47 PM, David D. Clark 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> So I just did a pull from git (7/14 1346h MDT), recompiled, et voila --
>>> weather polygons!
>>>
>>> On 07/14/2016 01:20 PM, David D. Clark wrote:
>>>
 Hello Everybody,

 I am returning to using xastir after a fairly long period of not using
 it. I have it compiled and running with everything except GDAL support.

 I have tried to get some offline maps but most of the links I have
 found seem to be dead. Could somebody please point me to a source of
 something like openstreetmaps for use with xastir?

 I have also noticed that weather alerts don't quite match what I see on
 wundermap.com. I have connected to firenet to get the information.
 What I am most critically missing is red flag warning. I am also not seeing
 any weather polygons. From my searches I understand that there has been a
 lot of changes to the data sources for these things since I last used
 xastir. Could somebody please comment on what weather features the current
 version of xastir is and is not capable of?

 Tnx es 73
 Dave KJ5KG


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[Curt Mills]

Here's one place it appears you can get OSM Shapefile extracts:

http://download.geofabrik.de/

Again, you most likely will have to create dbfawk files to go with them.
It's not terribly difficult.


On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 1:19 PM, Curt Mills  wrote:

> I'm currently using online maps: "Online/OSM_tiled_mapnik.geo"
>
> You may have to hunt for an OSM extract in Shapefile format. I used to use
> the "cloudmade" extracts and still have the ones for WA on this computer I
> think.
>
> You should be able to get quite a few different ones that use ESRI
> Shapefile format working in Xastir, including Tigermap Shapefile maps. We
> made the Tigermap Shapefiles work a few years ago, and one of my buddies
> has been asking about getting the latest ones working... It's not that much
> work to get new ones integrated in. It's usually just writing some more
> "dbfawk" files to go with them.
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 12:47 PM, David D. Clark 
> wrote:
>
>> So I just did a pull from git (7/14 1346h MDT), recompiled, et voila --
>> weather polygons!
>>
>> On 07/14/2016 01:20 PM, David D. Clark wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Everybody,
>>>
>>> I am returning to using xastir after a fairly long period of not using
>>> it. I have it compiled and running with everything except GDAL support.
>>>
>>> I have tried to get some offline maps but most of the links I have found
>>> seem to be dead. Could somebody please point me to a source of something
>>> like openstreetmaps for use with xastir?
>>>
>>> I have also noticed that weather alerts don't quite match what I see on
>>> wundermap.com. I have connected to firenet to get the information. What
>>> I am most critically missing is red flag warning. I am also not seeing any
>>> weather polygons. From my searches I understand that there has been a lot
>>> of changes to the data sources for these things since I last used xastir.
>>> Could somebody please comment on what weather features the current version
>>> of xastir is and is not capable of?
>>>
>>> Tnx es 73
>>> Dave KJ5KG
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Xastir] Maps?

[Curt Mills]

I'm currently using online maps: "Online/OSM_tiled_mapnik.geo"

You may have to hunt for an OSM extract in Shapefile format. I used to use
the "cloudmade" extracts and still have the ones for WA on this computer I
think.

You should be able to get quite a few different ones that use ESRI
Shapefile format working in Xastir, including Tigermap Shapefile maps. We
made the Tigermap Shapefiles work a few years ago, and one of my buddies
has been asking about getting the latest ones working... It's not that much
work to get new ones integrated in. It's usually just writing some more
"dbfawk" files to go with them.


On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 12:47 PM, David D. Clark  wrote:

> So I just did a pull from git (7/14 1346h MDT), recompiled, et voila --
> weather polygons!
>
> On 07/14/2016 01:20 PM, David D. Clark wrote:
>
>> Hello Everybody,
>>
>> I am returning to using xastir after a fairly long period of not using
>> it. I have it compiled and running with everything except GDAL support.
>>
>> I have tried to get some offline maps but most of the links I have found
>> seem to be dead. Could somebody please point me to a source of something
>> like openstreetmaps for use with xastir?
>>
>> I have also noticed that weather alerts don't quite match what I see on
>> wundermap.com. I have connected to firenet to get the information. What
>> I am most critically missing is red flag warning. I am also not seeing any
>> weather polygons. From my searches I understand that there has been a lot
>> of changes to the data sources for these things since I last used xastir.
>> Could somebody please comment on what weather features the current version
>> of xastir is and is not capable of?
>>
>> Tnx es 73
>> Dave KJ5KG
>>
>>
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Re: [Xastir] Maps?

[David A Aitcheson]

That was fast! (and easy).

73
Dave
KB3EFS
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On 07/14/2016 03:47 PM, David D. Clark wrote:
> So I just did a pull from git (7/14 1346h MDT), recompiled, et voila
> -- weather polygons!
>
> On 07/14/2016 01:20 PM, David D. Clark wrote:
>> Hello Everybody,
>>
>> I am returning to using xastir after a fairly long period of not
>> using it. I have it compiled and running with everything except GDAL
>> support.
>>
>> I have tried to get some offline maps but most of the links I have
>> found seem to be dead. Could somebody please point me to a source of
>> something like openstreetmaps for use with xastir?
>>
>> I have also noticed that weather alerts don't quite match what I see
>> on wundermap.com. I have connected to firenet to get the information.
>> What I am most critically missing is red flag warning. I am also not
>> seeing any weather polygons. From my searches I understand that there
>> has been a lot of changes to the data sources for these things since
>> I last used xastir. Could somebody please comment on what weather
>> features the current version of xastir is and is not capable of?
>>
>> Tnx es 73
>> Dave KJ5KG
>>
>

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Re: [Xastir] Maps?

[David D. Clark]

So I just did a pull from git (7/14 1346h MDT), recompiled, et voila -- 
weather polygons!


On 07/14/2016 01:20 PM, David D. Clark wrote:

Hello Everybody,

I am returning to using xastir after a fairly long period of not using 
it. I have it compiled and running with everything except GDAL support.


I have tried to get some offline maps but most of the links I have 
found seem to be dead. Could somebody please point me to a source of 
something like openstreetmaps for use with xastir?


I have also noticed that weather alerts don't quite match what I see 
on wundermap.com. I have connected to firenet to get the information. 
What I am most critically missing is red flag warning. I am also not 
seeing any weather polygons. From my searches I understand that there 
has been a lot of changes to the data sources for these things since I 
last used xastir. Could somebody please comment on what weather 
features the current version of xastir is and is not capable of?


Tnx es 73
Dave KJ5KG



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[Kurt]

That's one snag with Xastir now.  No easy method for obtaining and converting 
map files for offline use by inexperienced users.  I have some of the old 2009? 
or 08 cloudmade maps I still use and severalof the old 2006 Tiger maps.  They 
are no longer available for download for the "hacking impaired".They were plug 
n' go mapsets for offline use.
YAAC can use the geofabrik .osm.bz2 files to create an offline mapset.  I let 
the program run overnite to importthe data for the whole of north america.
A neophyte can fiddle with the maps from within YAAC without too much trouble.
But. I still like Xastir a little bit better as there 
are more tricks it can do as opposed to YAAC when it comes to tracking.
One big one is injecting an incoming NMEA GPS datastream as if it's APRS packet 
data.
Kurt KC9LDH


  From: W8EHH <w8e...@gmail.com>
 To: xastir@lists.xastir.org 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2015 2:53 PM
 Subject: [Xastir] Maps
   
Good Day ALL

 

I am using HTTP://download.geofabrik.de to get maps for use in an OFFLINE
mapping directory.  My  problem is the dbfawk files.  Non existent for those
maps,  At least I can't find any.  I have tried to follow the instructions
in the How To : DBFAWK file.  I have managed to get some color and road
names but no interstate ID's.  I don't do well when I get frustrated.  Hi
Hi.

 

So it would seem that these maps would be popular and since the 3 states I
have downloaded all use the ame names for the DB's.  I am hoping some one
out there has the DBFAWK files for roads, railway, waterways, pois etc.
That would be willing to zip up and send to me.  I just don't understand the
names in these files.  That is probably why I seem to get different colors
for the same type of roads.

 

Also can someone tell me where to place weather maps for when alerts our out
for your area.  I downloaded them from noao but dot know where to place
them.  

 

Thanks in Advance for any and all help to relieve my frustrations.

 

Mike  W8EHH

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Re: [Xastir] Maps

[Curt Mills]

Regarding the NOAA weather alert maps, there's a script that gets
installed to /usr/local/share/xastir/scripts called "get-NWSdata"
which you can run as root on your box to snag them and install them.
It uses "wget" to fetch the files so you must have that installed.  We
periodically update that script so you probably want to run the latest
version of it so it snags the correct files.

This is the latest one:

http://xastir.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/xastir/xastir/scripts/get-NWSdata?revision=1.48=markup=date

I can't help on the other maps 'cuz I haven't downloaded or used
those.  Others are better at hacking dbfawk files than I, although I
have done a few for myself.


On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 12:53 PM, W8EHH  wrote:
> Good Day ALL
>
>
>
> I am using HTTP://download.geofabrik.de to get maps for use in an OFFLINE
> mapping directory.  My  problem is the dbfawk files.  Non existent for those
> maps,  At least I can't find any.  I have tried to follow the instructions
> in the How To : DBFAWK file.  I have managed to get some color and road
> names but no interstate ID's.  I don't do well when I get frustrated.  Hi
> Hi.
>
>
>
> So it would seem that these maps would be popular and since the 3 states I
> have downloaded all use the ame names for the DB's.  I am hoping some one
> out there has the DBFAWK files for roads, railway, waterways, pois etc.
> That would be willing to zip up and send to me.  I just don't understand the
> names in these files.  That is probably why I seem to get different colors
> for the same type of roads.
>
>
>
> Also can someone tell me where to place weather maps for when alerts our out
> for your area.  I downloaded them from noao but dot know where to place
> them.
>
>
>
> Thanks in Advance for any and all help to relieve my frustrations.
>
>
>
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[W8EHH]

Good Day ALL

 

I am using HTTP://download.geofabrik.de to get maps for use in an OFFLINE
mapping directory.  My  problem is the dbfawk files.  Non existent for those
maps,  At least I can't find any.  I have tried to follow the instructions
in the How To : DBFAWK file.  I have managed to get some color and road
names but no interstate ID's.  I don't do well when I get frustrated.  Hi
Hi.

 

So it would seem that these maps would be popular and since the 3 states I
have downloaded all use the ame names for the DB's.  I am hoping some one
out there has the DBFAWK files for roads, railway, waterways, pois etc.
That would be willing to zip up and send to me.  I just don't understand the
names in these files.  That is probably why I seem to get different colors
for the same type of roads.

 

Also can someone tell me where to place weather maps for when alerts our out
for your area.  I downloaded them from noao but dot know where to place
them.  

 

Thanks in Advance for any and all help to relieve my frustrations.

 

Mike  W8EHH

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Re: [Xastir] Maps problem

[Tate B]

Floyd,

Going to need a good bit more detail about what you're doing to even begin
to answer you questions.

What platform are you on?
How was Xastir installed (source or package) and what version?

Specifically - what maps have you downloaded and where were they placed?

How are you trying to view them - have they been selected in the chooser?

Any error messages in the console?



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 I have castor running and have downloaded and extracted 4gb of maps
 including the standard load of aprs maps. The problem is nothing ever
 appears on screen other than the individual station locations. What is the
 easy fix or test to see why they do not display?

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[Floyd Rodgers]

I think this may be the major problem, but no idea how to fix it.* WARNING 
*
Berkeley DB header files/shared library file do NOT match!
Disabling use of the map cache.
 Header file: Berkeley DB 4.8.30: (April  9, 2010)
Library file: Berkeley DB 5.1.25: (January 28, 2011)* WARNING *I think 
I followed the cookbook script that does apt-get . but it was at least a 
year ago for the install.
unbuntu 12.04ltsmaps are basic aprs stuff like comes on winders platforms plus 
ozsm and online maps which show up in /usr/local/shar/xastir/maps as well in my 
download directoryWhen choosing an online map like texas local radar, I get the 
followingxastir: improper image header `/home/kc5qbc/.xastir/tmp/map.png' @ 
error/png.c/ReadPNGImage/3246.
xastir: improper image header `/home/kc5qbc/.xastir/tmp/map.png' @ 
error/png.c/ReadPNGImage/3246.


 


 On Tuesday, August 25, 2015 9:56 AM, Tate B k...@casperarc.net wrote:
   

 Floyd,

Going to need a good bit more detail about what you're doing to even begin
to answer you questions.

What platform are you on?
How was Xastir installed (source or package) and what version?

Specifically - what maps have you downloaded and where were they placed?

How are you trying to view them - have they been selected in the chooser?

Any error messages in the console?



On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 5:18 PM, Floyd Rodgers kc5...@swbell.net wrote:

 I have castor running and have downloaded and extracted 4gb of maps
 including the standard load of aprs maps. The problem is nothing ever
 appears on screen other than the individual station locations. What is the
 easy fix or test to see why they do not display?

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Re: [Xastir] Maps problem

[Tate B]

Here is an old message from this list that directly addresses your Berkeley
issue.

http://xastir.org/pipermail/xastir/2013-June/021638.html

On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 9:28 AM, Floyd Rodgers kc5...@swbell.net wrote:

 I think this may be the major problem, but no idea how to fix it.*
 WARNING *
 Berkeley DB header files/shared library file do NOT match!
 Disabling use of the map cache.
  Header file: Berkeley DB 4.8.30: (April  9, 2010)
 Library file: Berkeley DB 5.1.25: (January 28, 2011)* WARNING *I
 think I followed the cookbook script that does apt-get . but it was at
 least a year ago for the install.
 unbuntu 12.04ltsmaps are basic aprs stuff like comes on winders platforms
 plus ozsm and online maps which show up in /usr/local/shar/xastir/maps as
 well in my download directoryWhen choosing an online map like texas local
 radar, I get the followingxastir: improper image header
 `/home/kc5qbc/.xastir/tmp/map.png' @ error/png.c/ReadPNGImage/3246.
 xastir: improper image header `/home/kc5qbc/.xastir/tmp/map.png' @
 error/png.c/ReadPNGImage/3246.





  On Tuesday, August 25, 2015 9:56 AM, Tate B k...@casperarc.net
 wrote:


  Floyd,

 Going to need a good bit more detail about what you're doing to even begin
 to answer you questions.

 What platform are you on?
 How was Xastir installed (source or package) and what version?

 Specifically - what maps have you downloaded and where were they placed?

 How are you trying to view them - have they been selected in the chooser?

 Any error messages in the console?



 On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 5:18 PM, Floyd Rodgers kc5...@swbell.net wrote:

  I have castor running and have downloaded and extracted 4gb of maps
  including the standard load of aprs maps. The problem is nothing ever
  appears on screen other than the individual station locations. What is
 the
  easy fix or test to see why they do not display?
 
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[Xastir] Maps problem

[Floyd Rodgers]

I have castor running and have downloaded and extracted 4gb of maps including 
the standard load of aprs maps. The problem is nothing ever appears on screen 
other than the individual station locations. What is the easy fix or test to 
see why they do not display?

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Re: [Xastir] Maps won't cache

[Skyler F]

I am reinstalling everything due to a crash because of some partition
error, but why isn't gdal supported?

Its right here in the install instructions for ubuntu

http://xastir.org/index.php/HowTo:Ubuntu_14.04

On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 9:02 PM, Hal Mueller h...@seanet.com wrote:

 What's the algorithm for deciding to dump/clear the cache? Or does that
 ever happen?

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Re: [Xastir] Maps won't cache

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On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 07:50:46AM -0600, we recorded a bogon-computron 
collision of the electricity...@gmail.com flavor, containing:
I am reinstalling everything due to a crash because of some partition
error, but why isn't gdal supported?

Not sure why gdal isn't picked up, but as the developers are very quick to
point out, it is almost pointless for users to bother installing and linking
GDAL to Xastir.  Xastir does *nothing* with GDAL for rasters, and has very,
very limited support for vector data through the OGR library (part of GDAL)

There was a plan to make Xastir use GDAL for rasters, but it never got finished.

[1]http://xastir.org/index.php/HowTo:Ubuntu_14.04

You can link gdal to Xastir by following the instructions.  But it buys you
nothing.   That is why the instructions say most users won't need it, and
why the section in Install GDAL says This is an entirely optional install, 
and is pretty much unnecessary.[...]It is recommended that the casual user 
skip this step.

On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 9:02 PM, Hal Mueller [2]h...@seanet.com wrote:
 
  What's the algorithm for deciding to dump/clear the cache? Or does that
  ever happen?
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Re: [Xastir] Maps won't cache

[Tom Russo]

On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 02:42:48PM +, we recorded a bogon-computron 
collision of the kg4...@yahoo.com flavor, containing:
 Is it just me, or is everyone getting double post from Skyler most of the 
 time?



  To: Xastir - APRS client software discussion xastir@lists.xastir.org 
 Cc: Xastir - APRS client software discussion xas...@xastir.org 

That's why.  Sending to one version of the list, CCing the other.  Both
wind up in the same place.

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Re: [Xastir] Maps won't cache

[Skyler F]

Well I finally got everything reinstalled, and it works fine now, the maps
are being cached and not deleted.

I think I did something wrong last install.

On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 7:50 AM, Skyler F electricity...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am reinstalling everything due to a crash because of some partition
 error, but why isn't gdal supported?

 Its right here in the install instructions for ubuntu

 http://xastir.org/index.php/HowTo:Ubuntu_14.04

 On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 9:02 PM, Hal Mueller h...@seanet.com wrote:

 What's the algorithm for deciding to dump/clear the cache? Or does that
 ever happen?

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Re: [Xastir] Maps won't cache

[Max Harper]

Is it just me, or is everyone getting double post from Skyler most of the time?
Max KG4PID
   From: Skyler F electricity...@gmail.com
 To: Xastir - APRS client software discussion xastir@lists.xastir.org 
Cc: Xastir - APRS client software discussion xas...@xastir.org 
 Sent: Monday, May 11, 2015 9:10 AM
 Subject: Re: [Xastir] Maps won't cache
   
Well I finally got everything reinstalled, and it works fine now, the maps
are being cached and not deleted.

I think I did something wrong last install.

On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 7:50 AM, Skyler F electricity...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am reinstalling everything due to a crash because of some partition
 error, but why isn't gdal supported?

 Its right here in the install instructions for ubuntu

 http://xastir.org/index.php/HowTo:Ubuntu_14.04

 On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 9:02 PM, Hal Mueller h...@seanet.com wrote:

 What's the algorithm for deciding to dump/clear the cache? Or does that
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Re: [Xastir] Maps won't cache

[Curt Mills]

They have both.  However, depending on how the the files are created,
you may have to create a dbfawk file to go with them so the labels
appear, or appear as you like.  Dbfawk files are specific to Xastir.
There are several on here who could help you with that part, assuming
you have some time still.

What's your deadline?


On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 2:03 PM, Skyler F electricity...@gmail.com wrote:
 Are shapefiles simply lines, or do they have street names, etc?

 On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 2:59 PM, Curt Mills curt.w...@gmail.com wrote:

 Also check out the Services generating custom shapefile downloads.
 A couple of those look interesting.  You want ESRI Shapefile maps in
 this case.

 On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 1:53 PM, Curt Mills curt.w...@gmail.com wrote:
  FYI:  I wouldn't use cached maps for an event.  Too much can go wrong.
 
  Use Shapefile extracts if you want to use OSM maps.  Find links to
  extracts here:
 
  https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Shapefiles
 
  For instance, I can get a Shapefile extract for WA state here:
 
  http://download.geofabrik.de/north-america/us/washington-latest.shp.zip
 
  Which I got to from the first link under Pre-made shapefile
  downloads.  It's 129MB though.
 
  I was using the Cloudmade OSM Extracts, but I'm not sure they do that
 anymore.
 
 
  On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 9:01 AM, Skyler F electricity...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Oops, when I hit reply, it does that, I don't know why
 
  On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 9:23 AM, Tom Russo ru...@bogodyn.org wrote:
 
  On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 02:42:48PM +, we recorded a bogon-computron
  collision of the kg4...@yahoo.com flavor, containing:
   Is it just me, or is everyone getting double post from Skyler most of
  the time?
 
 
 
To: Xastir - APRS client software discussion 
 xastir@lists.xastir.org
   Cc: Xastir - APRS client software discussion xas...@xastir.org
 
  That's why.  Sending to one version of the list, CCing the other.  Both
  wind up in the same place.
 
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Re: [Xastir] Maps won't cache

[Curt Mills]

FYI:  I wouldn't use cached maps for an event.  Too much can go wrong.

Use Shapefile extracts if you want to use OSM maps.  Find links to
extracts here:

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Shapefiles

For instance, I can get a Shapefile extract for WA state here:

http://download.geofabrik.de/north-america/us/washington-latest.shp.zip

Which I got to from the first link under Pre-made shapefile
downloads.  It's 129MB though.

I was using the Cloudmade OSM Extracts, but I'm not sure they do that anymore.


On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 9:01 AM, Skyler F electricity...@gmail.com wrote:
 Oops, when I hit reply, it does that, I don't know why

 On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 9:23 AM, Tom Russo ru...@bogodyn.org wrote:

 On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 02:42:48PM +, we recorded a bogon-computron
 collision of the kg4...@yahoo.com flavor, containing:
  Is it just me, or is everyone getting double post from Skyler most of
 the time?



   To: Xastir - APRS client software discussion xastir@lists.xastir.org
  Cc: Xastir - APRS client software discussion xas...@xastir.org

 That's why.  Sending to one version of the list, CCing the other.  Both
 wind up in the same place.

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Re: [Xastir] Maps won't cache

[Curt Mills]

Also check out the Services generating custom shapefile downloads.
A couple of those look interesting.  You want ESRI Shapefile maps in
this case.

On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 1:53 PM, Curt Mills curt.w...@gmail.com wrote:
 FYI:  I wouldn't use cached maps for an event.  Too much can go wrong.

 Use Shapefile extracts if you want to use OSM maps.  Find links to
 extracts here:

 https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Shapefiles

 For instance, I can get a Shapefile extract for WA state here:

 http://download.geofabrik.de/north-america/us/washington-latest.shp.zip

 Which I got to from the first link under Pre-made shapefile
 downloads.  It's 129MB though.

 I was using the Cloudmade OSM Extracts, but I'm not sure they do that anymore.


 On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 9:01 AM, Skyler F electricity...@gmail.com wrote:
 Oops, when I hit reply, it does that, I don't know why

 On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 9:23 AM, Tom Russo ru...@bogodyn.org wrote:

 On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 02:42:48PM +, we recorded a bogon-computron
 collision of the kg4...@yahoo.com flavor, containing:
  Is it just me, or is everyone getting double post from Skyler most of
 the time?



   To: Xastir - APRS client software discussion xastir@lists.xastir.org
  Cc: Xastir - APRS client software discussion xas...@xastir.org

 That's why.  Sending to one version of the list, CCing the other.  Both
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Re: [Xastir] Maps won't cache

[Skyler F]

Are shapefiles simply lines, or do they have street names, etc?

On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 2:59 PM, Curt Mills curt.w...@gmail.com wrote:

 Also check out the Services generating custom shapefile downloads.
 A couple of those look interesting.  You want ESRI Shapefile maps in
 this case.

 On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 1:53 PM, Curt Mills curt.w...@gmail.com wrote:
  FYI:  I wouldn't use cached maps for an event.  Too much can go wrong.
 
  Use Shapefile extracts if you want to use OSM maps.  Find links to
  extracts here:
 
  https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Shapefiles
 
  For instance, I can get a Shapefile extract for WA state here:
 
  http://download.geofabrik.de/north-america/us/washington-latest.shp.zip
 
  Which I got to from the first link under Pre-made shapefile
  downloads.  It's 129MB though.
 
  I was using the Cloudmade OSM Extracts, but I'm not sure they do that
 anymore.
 
 
  On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 9:01 AM, Skyler F electricity...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Oops, when I hit reply, it does that, I don't know why
 
  On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 9:23 AM, Tom Russo ru...@bogodyn.org wrote:
 
  On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 02:42:48PM +, we recorded a bogon-computron
  collision of the kg4...@yahoo.com flavor, containing:
   Is it just me, or is everyone getting double post from Skyler most of
  the time?
 
 
 
To: Xastir - APRS client software discussion 
 xastir@lists.xastir.org
   Cc: Xastir - APRS client software discussion xas...@xastir.org
 
  That's why.  Sending to one version of the list, CCing the other.  Both
  wind up in the same place.
 
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Re: [Xastir] Maps won't cache

[Skyler F]

I have plenty of time. My whole APRS station has to be set up by early
July. I am starting early though because I know I suck at getting things to
work on linux, and am particularly worried about getting hardware to work.

On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 3:08 PM, Curt Mills curt.w...@gmail.com wrote:

 They have both.  However, depending on how the the files are created,
 you may have to create a dbfawk file to go with them so the labels
 appear, or appear as you like.  Dbfawk files are specific to Xastir.
 There are several on here who could help you with that part, assuming
 you have some time still.

 What's your deadline?


 On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 2:03 PM, Skyler F electricity...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Are shapefiles simply lines, or do they have street names, etc?
 
  On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 2:59 PM, Curt Mills curt.w...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Also check out the Services generating custom shapefile downloads.
  A couple of those look interesting.  You want ESRI Shapefile maps in
  this case.
 
  On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 1:53 PM, Curt Mills curt.w...@gmail.com
 wrote:
   FYI:  I wouldn't use cached maps for an event.  Too much can go wrong.
  
   Use Shapefile extracts if you want to use OSM maps.  Find links to
   extracts here:
  
   https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Shapefiles
  
   For instance, I can get a Shapefile extract for WA state here:
  
  
 http://download.geofabrik.de/north-america/us/washington-latest.shp.zip
  
   Which I got to from the first link under Pre-made shapefile
   downloads.  It's 129MB though.
  
   I was using the Cloudmade OSM Extracts, but I'm not sure they do that
  anymore.
  
  
   On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 9:01 AM, Skyler F electricity...@gmail.com
  wrote:
   Oops, when I hit reply, it does that, I don't know why
  
   On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 9:23 AM, Tom Russo ru...@bogodyn.org
 wrote:
  
   On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 02:42:48PM +, we recorded a
 bogon-computron
   collision of the kg4...@yahoo.com flavor, containing:
Is it just me, or is everyone getting double post from Skyler
 most of
   the time?
  
  
  
 To: Xastir - APRS client software discussion 
  xastir@lists.xastir.org
Cc: Xastir - APRS client software discussion xas...@xastir.org
  
   That's why.  Sending to one version of the list, CCing the other.
 Both
   wind up in the same place.
  
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Re: [Xastir] Maps won't cache

[Skyler F]

Oops, when I hit reply, it does that, I don't know why

On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 9:23 AM, Tom Russo ru...@bogodyn.org wrote:

 On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 02:42:48PM +, we recorded a bogon-computron
 collision of the kg4...@yahoo.com flavor, containing:
  Is it just me, or is everyone getting double post from Skyler most of
 the time?



   To: Xastir - APRS client software discussion xastir@lists.xastir.org
  Cc: Xastir - APRS client software discussion xas...@xastir.org

 That's why.  Sending to one version of the list, CCing the other.  Both
 wind up in the same place.

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Re: [Xastir] Maps won't cache

[Tom Russo]

On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 07:12:44PM -0700, we recorded a bogon-computron 
collision of the h...@seanet.com flavor, containing:
 This smells to me (without looking at the code) like a tile cache size limit 
 problem. I don't know what xastir used to decide how much map data to cache, 
 but that's the setting I would hunt for. 

There is no such setting for OSM map tiles.

In fact, in browsing the code the only place I see that would remove OSM tiles
from the OSMtiles directory does so when the tile is bad.

I'm going to have to fire up Xastir on my laptop (which runs Ubuntu) and see
if I can reproduce Skyler's issue.  I only use Xastir on that laptop for
search and rescue, when I never have internet -- and so I never use online
maps there (I use shapefiles and topo maps in that activity).  It will be
a day or so before I can try that.

 Another idea would be to generate data in advance. I just poked around in 
 mailing list from late 2012 and saw some talk about using Mbtiles data with 
 xastir. Mbtiles is a format for mass offline storage of raster tiles. It's 
 supported by GDAL, and I think that means it works in xastir? You could use a 
 program like Tilemill to generate full Mbtiles coverage for the areas you 
 need. Side benefit (if it works): you can distribute the same Mbtiles file to 
 all of your volunteers, minimizing training load. 

Xastir does *NOT* actually support gdal raster formats, which is why we are 
quick to point out that most uses won't want to bother with GDAL.  There was 
brief bit of development effort in that direction about 10 years ago, but it 
resulted only in the support of OGR vector layers, not GDAL raster layers.  But
the OGR code is akin to the older shapefile code without dbfawk --- meaning
that Xastir will only render certain types of ogr data layer nicely, and all
others will just render as ugly black lines.

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Re: [Xastir] Maps won't cache

[Hal Mueller]

What's the algorithm for deciding to dump/clear the cache? Or does that ever 
happen?

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[Xastir] Maps won't cache

[Skyler F]

I have xastir running on Ubuntu. I installed it there to get sound modem
working. I have open street maps on there and want to use them offline.

However, when I move from a zone that isn't cached to a zone that is, all
of the cached maps are deleted. This did not happen on Mac, just Ubuntu.

Is there an option that I have set wrong or is there a bug in xastir? What
good maps with roads, lakes and more does anyone recommend that I can
download offline? If the open street maps offline is not going to work, I
guess I have to find something else.

I am trying to get xastir working for an event coming up, but there are
just too many issues I have been encountering, and I don't know how to do
anything.

Thanks
Skyler
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[Xastir] Maps OSM

[Dave H]

I'm lucky to still have a pc running (mainly Inet but sometimes RF) Xastir
with local OSM maps - is there a procedure I can follow to transfer the
whole map cache over from the one pc to the new one?

I tried just scp'ing  from the map_cache directory over - which failed on a
database error - Should I scp over the whole directory tree at .xastir  ?

I'm in the UK and without maps I find it hard to get people to take it up -
they say their uiview maps are crud but  worldoutline is not a step up.

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Re: [Xastir] Xastir Maps

[Thomas Adsit]

Any idea, how I might be able to get back to the Xastir screen? Right now when 
I start it, just get a blank grey screen with the spinning mouse icon, just 
stays that way, I would like to get back to the regular screen, but so far no 
go, I hate to reinstall the OS, because everything else is working so good, I 
also see you live in Leesburg, I am right over the hill from you (Charle Town 
WV) and for right now work in Leesburg, you casn see my mobile on a daily 
basis, k8wdx-7   Thanks


Tom Adsit Ham Radio Call Sign K8WDX   



On Sat, 12/7/13, Lee Bengston lee.bengs...@gmail.com wrote:

 Subject: Re: [Xastir] Xastir Maps
 To: Xastir - APRS client software discussion xastir@lists.xastir.org
 Date: Saturday, December 7, 2013, 2:28 PM
 
 http://www.xastir.org/wiki/HowTo:Ubuntu_12.04-binary
 
 There is a newer version built for Ubuntu 12.04 LTS that you
 can try.  I
 know it worked with online maps when I used it in
 2012.  After downloading
 I believe right clicking on the deb file will give you an
 option to install
 it.  Given Mint 13 is based on Ubuntu 12.04, it should
 be compatible.
 
 FYI there is no need to install dependent packages like
 imagemagick when
 installing binary versions of Xastir - those are installed
 when Xastir is
 installed.  I was trying to determine if the version
 from the repo was
 built with imagemagick or graphicsmagick support.
 
 Regards,
 Lee - K5DAT
 
 
 - sent from my mobile phone
 On Dec 7, 2013 4:31 AM, Thomas Adsit k8...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
 
  I did get Xastir out of the repositories, I have not
 done any compiling
  yet, dont know how, it is on my todo list, I am using
 Linux mint 13 LTS,
  right now the program freezes whan I open it, my guess
 is it is looking for
  a map to load that is not there, anyway I have to
 restart the machine to
  clear it up, I just get the spinning circle that the pc
 is thinking..I did
  install imagemajic, not sure if that is what it is
 using right now, I cant
  do anything with it, I would like to just get it back
 to whaere it was
  working and go from there, but so far a blank screen,
 with the thinking
  circle, and nothing else. is says Loading symboles at
 the bottom other than
  that screen in grey and blank... Thanks
  Terminal output...
  k8wdx@k8wdx ~ $ xastir
 
 
  Built-in map types:
    
    gnis   USGS GNIS
 Datapoints
         pop   USGS
 GNIS Datapoints w/population
         map   APRSdos
 Maps
        
 map   WinAPRS/MacAPRS/X-APRS Maps
        
 pdb   PocketAPRS Maps
 
  Support for these additional map types has been
 compiled in:
         geo   Image
 Map (ImageMagick/GraphicsMagick library, many formats
  allowed)
         geo   URL
 (Internet maps via libcurl library)
         geo   URL
 (OpenStreetMaps via libcurl library
                
    Copyright OpenStreetMap and contributors,
 CC-BY-SA)
         shp   ESRI
 Shapefile Maps (Shapelib library)
         tif   USGS
 DRG Geotiff Topographic Maps (libgeotiff/libproj)
  Indexing maps...
  Finished indexing maps
  *** Reading WX Alert log files
  *** Done with WX Alert log files
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Tom Adsit Ham Radio Call Sign K8WDX
 
 
  
  On Sat, 12/7/13, Lee Bengston lee.bengs...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
   Subject: Re: [Xastir] Xastir Maps
   To: Xastir - APRS client software discussion
 xastir@lists.xastir.org
   Date: Saturday, December 7, 2013, 3:43 AM
 
   Yes, I am displaying maps.  I am
   using the Online/OSM tiled mapnick
   choice.  The only other Online/OSM selection
 that works
   for me is the
   tiled cycle option.  I think some older
 choices that
   don't work any more
   need to be removed.
 
   If those 2 above that work for me do not work for
 you, then
   perhaps you are
   using a version of Xastir that was provided in
 the
   repository of your Linux
   distribution.  In order to provide
 additional help...
 
   What version of Xastir are you using?  You
 can see that
   under Help/About.
   Under Help/About to the right of Libraries
 Used:, does
   it indicate
   ImageMagick or GraphicsMagick (need to know which
 one).
 
   When you start Xastir in a terminal, do any error
 messages
   show when it is
   attempting to retrieve maps?
 
   What flavor and version of Linux are you using?
 
   Regards,
   Lee - K5DAT
 
 
   On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 8:40 PM, Thomas Adsit
 k8...@yahoo.com
   wrote:
 
    Anyone able to get Xastir to display maps?,
 I got it
   working with the
    radio displaying stations, but just the
 blank
   background world map, I tried
    the online map now program just freezes with
 the
   spinning circle, how can I
    fix this? I am no Linux expert, so please
 terms that a
   casual user can
    understand, hi hi.. I am learning though...
   
   
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[Xastir] Fwd: Xastir Maps

[Lee Bengston]

resending - got a bounce message from the list for some reason.

-- Forwarded message --
From: Lee Bengston lee.bengs...@gmail.com
Date: Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 8:02 AM
Subject: Re: [Xastir] Xastir Maps
To: Xastir - APRS client software discussion xastir@lists.xastir.org


Try the following command in a terminal:

rm ~/.xastir/config/selected_maps.sys

That will remove your map selection - I think the issue started after you
selected online maps.  There is no harm in deleting that file - xastir will
create another one as soon as you select something in the map chooser.

Yes, I recognize your call sign - I've seen you on the map before :-)

Lee - K5DAT



On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 6:19 AM, Thomas Adsit k8...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Any idea, how I might be able to get back to the Xastir screen? Right now
 when I start it, just get a blank grey screen with the spinning mouse icon,
 just stays that way, I would like to get back to the regular screen, but so
 far no go, I hate to reinstall the OS, because everything else is working
 so good, I also see you live in Leesburg, I am right over the hill from you
 (Charle Town WV) and for right now work in Leesburg, you casn see my mobile
 on a daily basis, k8wdx-7   Thanks


 Tom Adsit Ham Radio Call Sign K8WDX


 
 On Sat, 12/7/13, Lee Bengston lee.bengs...@gmail.com wrote:

  Subject: Re: [Xastir] Xastir Maps
  To: Xastir - APRS client software discussion xastir@lists.xastir.org
  Date: Saturday, December 7, 2013, 2:28 PM

  http://www.xastir.org/wiki/HowTo:Ubuntu_12.04-binary

  There is a newer version built for Ubuntu 12.04 LTS that you
  can try.  I
  know it worked with online maps when I used it in
  2012.  After downloading
  I believe right clicking on the deb file will give you an
  option to install
  it.  Given Mint 13 is based on Ubuntu 12.04, it should
  be compatible.

  FYI there is no need to install dependent packages like
  imagemagick when
  installing binary versions of Xastir - those are installed
  when Xastir is
  installed.  I was trying to determine if the version
  from the repo was
  built with imagemagick or graphicsmagick support.

  Regards,
  Lee - K5DAT


  - sent from my mobile phone
  On Dec 7, 2013 4:31 AM, Thomas Adsit k8...@yahoo.com
  wrote:

   I did get Xastir out of the repositories, I have not
  done any compiling
   yet, dont know how, it is on my todo list, I am using
  Linux mint 13 LTS,
   right now the program freezes whan I open it, my guess
  is it is looking for
   a map to load that is not there, anyway I have to
  restart the machine to
   clear it up, I just get the spinning circle that the pc
  is thinking..I did
   install imagemajic, not sure if that is what it is
  using right now, I cant
   do anything with it, I would like to just get it back
  to whaere it was
   working and go from there, but so far a blank screen,
  with the thinking
   circle, and nothing else. is says Loading symboles at
  the bottom other than
   that screen in grey and blank... Thanks
   Terminal output...
   k8wdx@k8wdx ~ $ xastir
  
  
   Built-in map types:
  
 gnis   USGS GNIS
  Datapoints
  pop   USGS
  GNIS Datapoints w/population
  map   APRSdos
  Maps
  
  map   WinAPRS/MacAPRS/X-APRS Maps
  
  pdb   PocketAPRS Maps
  
   Support for these additional map types has been
  compiled in:
  geo   Image
  Map (ImageMagick/GraphicsMagick library, many formats
   allowed)
  geo   URL
  (Internet maps via libcurl library)
  geo   URL
  (OpenStreetMaps via libcurl library
  
 Copyright OpenStreetMap and contributors,
  CC-BY-SA)
  shp   ESRI
  Shapefile Maps (Shapelib library)
  tif   USGS
  DRG Geotiff Topographic Maps (libgeotiff/libproj)
   Indexing maps...
   Finished indexing maps
   *** Reading WX Alert log files
   *** Done with WX Alert log files
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
   Tom Adsit Ham Radio Call Sign K8WDX
  
  
   
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  wrote:
  
Subject: Re: [Xastir] Xastir Maps
To: Xastir - APRS client software discussion
  xastir@lists.xastir.org
Date: Saturday, December 7, 2013, 3:43 AM
  
Yes, I am displaying maps.  I am
using the Online/OSM tiled mapnick
choice.  The only other Online/OSM selection
  that works
for me is the
tiled cycle option.  I think some older
  choices that
don't work any more
need to be removed.
  
If those 2 above that work for me do not work for
  you, then
perhaps you are
using a version of Xastir that was provided in
  the
repository of your Linux
distribution.  In order to provide
  additional help...
  
What version of Xastir are you using?  You
  can see that
under Help/About.
Under Help/About to the right of Libraries
  Used:, does
it indicate
ImageMagick or GraphicsMagick (need to know which
  one).
  
When you

Re: [Xastir] Xastir Maps

[Thomas Adsit]

I did get Xastir out of the repositories, I have not done any compiling yet, 
dont know how, it is on my todo list, I am using Linux mint 13 LTS, right now 
the program freezes whan I open it, my guess is it is looking for a map to load 
that is not there, anyway I have to restart the machine to clear it up, I just 
get the spinning circle that the pc is thinking..I did install imagemajic, not 
sure if that is what it is using right now, I cant do anything with it, I would 
like to just get it back to whaere it was working and go from there, but so far 
a blank screen, with the thinking circle, and nothing else. is says Loading 
symboles at the bottom other than that screen in grey and blank... Thanks
Terminal output...
k8wdx@k8wdx ~ $ xastir


Built-in map types:
  gnis   USGS GNIS Datapoints
   pop   USGS GNIS Datapoints w/population
   map   APRSdos Maps
   map   WinAPRS/MacAPRS/X-APRS Maps
   pdb   PocketAPRS Maps

Support for these additional map types has been compiled in: 
   geo   Image Map (ImageMagick/GraphicsMagick library, many formats 
allowed)
   geo   URL (Internet maps via libcurl library)
   geo   URL (OpenStreetMaps via libcurl library
  Copyright OpenStreetMap and contributors, CC-BY-SA)
   shp   ESRI Shapefile Maps (Shapelib library)
   tif   USGS DRG Geotiff Topographic Maps (libgeotiff/libproj)
Indexing maps...
Finished indexing maps
*** Reading WX Alert log files
*** Done with WX Alert log files








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On Sat, 12/7/13, Lee Bengston lee.bengs...@gmail.com wrote:

 Subject: Re: [Xastir] Xastir Maps
 To: Xastir - APRS client software discussion xastir@lists.xastir.org
 Date: Saturday, December 7, 2013, 3:43 AM
 
 Yes, I am displaying maps.  I am
 using the Online/OSM tiled mapnick
 choice.  The only other Online/OSM selection that works
 for me is the
 tiled cycle option.  I think some older choices that
 don't work any more
 need to be removed.
 
 If those 2 above that work for me do not work for you, then
 perhaps you are
 using a version of Xastir that was provided in the
 repository of your Linux
 distribution.  In order to provide additional help...
 
 What version of Xastir are you using?  You can see that
 under Help/About.
 Under Help/About to the right of Libraries Used:, does
 it indicate
 ImageMagick or GraphicsMagick (need to know which one).
 
 When you start Xastir in a terminal, do any error messages
 show when it is
 attempting to retrieve maps?
 
 What flavor and version of Linux are you using?
 
 Regards,
 Lee - K5DAT
 
 
 On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 8:40 PM, Thomas Adsit k8...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
 
  Anyone able to get Xastir to display maps?, I got it
 working with the
  radio displaying stations, but just the blank
 background world map, I tried
  the online map now program just freezes with the
 spinning circle, how can I
  fix this? I am no Linux expert, so please terms that a
 casual user can
  understand, hi hi.. I am learning though...
 
 
  Tom Adsit Ham Radio Call Sign K8WDX
 
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Re: [Xastir] Xastir Maps

[Lee Bengston]

http://www.xastir.org/wiki/HowTo:Ubuntu_12.04-binary

There is a newer version built for Ubuntu 12.04 LTS that you can try.  I
know it worked with online maps when I used it in 2012.  After downloading
I believe right clicking on the deb file will give you an option to install
it.  Given Mint 13 is based on Ubuntu 12.04, it should be compatible.

FYI there is no need to install dependent packages like imagemagick when
installing binary versions of Xastir - those are installed when Xastir is
installed.  I was trying to determine if the version from the repo was
built with imagemagick or graphicsmagick support.

Regards,
Lee - K5DAT


- sent from my mobile phone
On Dec 7, 2013 4:31 AM, Thomas Adsit k8...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I did get Xastir out of the repositories, I have not done any compiling
 yet, dont know how, it is on my todo list, I am using Linux mint 13 LTS,
 right now the program freezes whan I open it, my guess is it is looking for
 a map to load that is not there, anyway I have to restart the machine to
 clear it up, I just get the spinning circle that the pc is thinking..I did
 install imagemajic, not sure if that is what it is using right now, I cant
 do anything with it, I would like to just get it back to whaere it was
 working and go from there, but so far a blank screen, with the thinking
 circle, and nothing else. is says Loading symboles at the bottom other than
 that screen in grey and blank... Thanks
 Terminal output...
 k8wdx@k8wdx ~ $ xastir


 Built-in map types:
   gnis   USGS GNIS Datapoints
pop   USGS GNIS Datapoints w/population
map   APRSdos Maps
map   WinAPRS/MacAPRS/X-APRS Maps
pdb   PocketAPRS Maps

 Support for these additional map types has been compiled in:
geo   Image Map (ImageMagick/GraphicsMagick library, many formats
 allowed)
geo   URL (Internet maps via libcurl library)
geo   URL (OpenStreetMaps via libcurl library
   Copyright OpenStreetMap and contributors, CC-BY-SA)
shp   ESRI Shapefile Maps (Shapelib library)
tif   USGS DRG Geotiff Topographic Maps (libgeotiff/libproj)
 Indexing maps...
 Finished indexing maps
 *** Reading WX Alert log files
 *** Done with WX Alert log files








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 On Sat, 12/7/13, Lee Bengston lee.bengs...@gmail.com wrote:

  Subject: Re: [Xastir] Xastir Maps
  To: Xastir - APRS client software discussion xastir@lists.xastir.org
  Date: Saturday, December 7, 2013, 3:43 AM

  Yes, I am displaying maps.  I am
  using the Online/OSM tiled mapnick
  choice.  The only other Online/OSM selection that works
  for me is the
  tiled cycle option.  I think some older choices that
  don't work any more
  need to be removed.

  If those 2 above that work for me do not work for you, then
  perhaps you are
  using a version of Xastir that was provided in the
  repository of your Linux
  distribution.  In order to provide additional help...

  What version of Xastir are you using?  You can see that
  under Help/About.
  Under Help/About to the right of Libraries Used:, does
  it indicate
  ImageMagick or GraphicsMagick (need to know which one).

  When you start Xastir in a terminal, do any error messages
  show when it is
  attempting to retrieve maps?

  What flavor and version of Linux are you using?

  Regards,
  Lee - K5DAT


  On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 8:40 PM, Thomas Adsit k8...@yahoo.com
  wrote:

   Anyone able to get Xastir to display maps?, I got it
  working with the
   radio displaying stations, but just the blank
  background world map, I tried
   the online map now program just freezes with the
  spinning circle, how can I
   fix this? I am no Linux expert, so please terms that a
  casual user can
   understand, hi hi.. I am learning though...
  
  
   Tom Adsit Ham Radio Call Sign K8WDX
  
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[Xastir] Xastir Maps

[Thomas Adsit]

Anyone able to get Xastir to display maps?, I got it working with the radio 
displaying stations, but just the blank background world map, I tried the 
online map now program just freezes with the spinning circle, how can I fix 
this? I am no Linux expert, so please terms that a casual user can understand, 
hi hi.. I am learning though...


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Re: [Xastir] Xastir Maps

[Lee Bengston]

Yes, I am displaying maps.  I am using the Online/OSM tiled mapnick
choice.  The only other Online/OSM selection that works for me is the
tiled cycle option.  I think some older choices that don't work any more
need to be removed.

If those 2 above that work for me do not work for you, then perhaps you are
using a version of Xastir that was provided in the repository of your Linux
distribution.  In order to provide additional help...

What version of Xastir are you using?  You can see that under Help/About.
Under Help/About to the right of Libraries Used:, does it indicate
ImageMagick or GraphicsMagick (need to know which one).

When you start Xastir in a terminal, do any error messages show when it is
attempting to retrieve maps?

What flavor and version of Linux are you using?

Regards,
Lee - K5DAT


On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 8:40 PM, Thomas Adsit k8...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Anyone able to get Xastir to display maps?, I got it working with the
 radio displaying stations, but just the blank background world map, I tried
 the online map now program just freezes with the spinning circle, how can I
 fix this? I am no Linux expert, so please terms that a casual user can
 understand, hi hi.. I am learning though...


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Re: [Xastir] Maps

[Michael Gregory]

Liz,

  Right on all counts. I am still working it. Am making slow but steady 
progress. Thanks for your help.

73
KB3IYQ

Michael Gregory
michael.greg...@verizon.net



On 2013-10-21, at 9:35 PM, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote:

 On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 19:45:34 -0400
 Michael Gregory michael.greg...@verizon.net wrote:
 
 So for now It works but it sucks. I have not given up. eventually I
 will get it to work right in spite of the lack of support fom the
 community rather than because of it.
 
 Michael, we really don't have much information. I have raster maps
 sorted out for Australia, but I don't know where in the world you are.
 I'm no DX-pert and presume that a callsign starting with K has an
 American accent because I've heard such on IRLP.
 
 Which maps did you download?
 (Every one I could find isn't actually helpful.)
 
 Did you follow specific instructions on any website?
 (Because if they are broken, they need fixing)
 
 
 Liz 
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Re: [Xastir] Maps

[Michael Gregory]

Tom,

  I went to the xastir wiki and got directions for building from a tarball. I 
searched for the latest stable release, and found version 2.0.4. I executed 
the instructions from the wiki by copying and pasting the terminal commands 
from the wiki to my terminal. FAIL

  The instructions are classic linux instructions, worthless frustrating and a 
waste of time and effort. The mint package installed version, (2.0.0), works 
flawlessly as soon as the user figures out that the information on the wiki 
about putting map files in ~/xastir/map_cache is totally bogus. By placing my 
maps in usr/share/xastir/maps they become available in the  map chooser drop 
down and can be used just fine so long as they are of a limited set of vector 
graphics. It remains to be seen whether raster graphics will work because they 
require no only the raster graphics, (.png, .gif, .tif, .jpg…) files, but an 
accompanying text file with reference information so that the xastir app or its 
sub components can parse the placement of objects on the graphic background. I 
am having considerable difficulty finding raster files that come with the 
associated text file and have come to the conclusion that I am going to have to 
create them my self. Not difficult just not easy either. It seems that 
repositories of this kid of data are scarce.

73
KB3IYQ

Michael Gregory
michael.greg...@verizon.net



On 2013-10-21, at 11:46 PM, Tom Russo ru...@bogodyn.org wrote:

 On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 07:45:34PM -0400, we recorded a bogon-computron 
 collision of the michael.greg...@verizon.net flavor, containing:
 
  I removed Xastir completely. Both by telling my package manager to 
 removeit, and then by manually going to all of the directory locations ~/... 
 and user share?. and manually deleting all of the files. I them re-installed 
 it by having the package manager re-install.
 
 Which version is your package manager installing?  Which distro, and what
 does Help-About say about libraries compiled in.
 
 Many distros are notorious for having ancient versions of xastir in their
 package management systems.
 
 We also cannot be sure what compilation options were used when the package
 was built.  Remember that packages supplied by the distro are *not* created
 by the xastir project --- some volunteer generated the package for the 
 distro, and that person may not even be an xastir user.  
 
 To be really sure you get what you want out of xastir, it might be necessary
 for you to build it from source with the options you really want.
 
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Re: [Xastir] Maps

[Lee Bengston]

I would use the instructions at
http://www.xastir.org/wiki/HowTo:Ubuntu_12.10
I haven't checked, but my guess is that Mint 15 is equivalent to Ubuntu
13.04, and the Ubuntu 12.10 instructions should be very close if not
exactly right.  I would search for the packages using synaptic rather than
using apt-get as the instructions say - just in case any packages have
changed to newer versions.  If any have changed I would expect only one or
two at most.  The current Berkely libdb package is one that comes to mind
that may be newer than what is called out in the instructions.

This will also get you the very latest version - newer than the tarball.

Regards,
Lee - K5DAT


On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 10:02 AM, Michael Gregory 
michael.greg...@verizon.net wrote:


 Tom,

   I went to the xastir wiki and got directions for building from a
 tarball. I searched for the latest stable release, and found version
 2.0.4. I executed the instructions from the wiki by copying and pasting the
 terminal commands from the wiki to my terminal. FAIL

   The instructions are classic linux instructions, worthless frustrating
 and a waste of time and effort. The mint package installed version,
 (2.0.0), works flawlessly as soon as the user figures out that the
 information on the wiki about putting map files in ~/xastir/map_cache is
 totally bogus. By placing my maps in usr/share/xastir/maps they become
 available in the  map chooser drop down and can be used just fine so long
 as they are of a limited set of vector graphics. It remains to be seen
 whether raster graphics will work because they require no only the raster
 graphics, (.png, .gif, .tif, .jpg…) files, but an accompanying text file
 with reference information so that the xastir app or its sub components can
 parse the placement of objects on the graphic background. I am having
 considerable difficulty finding raster files that come with the associated
 text file and have come to the conclusion that I am going to have to create
 them my self. Not difficult just not easy either. It seems that
 repositories of this kid of data are scarce.

 73
 KB3IYQ

 Michael Gregory
 michael.greg...@verizon.net



 On 2013-10-21, at 11:46 PM, Tom Russo ru...@bogodyn.org wrote:

  On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 07:45:34PM -0400, we recorded a bogon-computron
 collision of the michael.greg...@verizon.net flavor, containing:
 
   I removed Xastir completely. Both by telling my package manager to
 removeit, and then by manually going to all of the directory locations
 ~/... and user share?. and manually deleting all of the files. I them
 re-installed it by having the package manager re-install.
 
  Which version is your package manager installing?  Which distro, and what
  does Help-About say about libraries compiled in.
 
  Many distros are notorious for having ancient versions of xastir in their
  package management systems.
 
  We also cannot be sure what compilation options were used when the
 package
  was built.  Remember that packages supplied by the distro are *not*
 created
  by the xastir project --- some volunteer generated the package for the
  distro, and that person may not even be an xastir user.
 
  To be really sure you get what you want out of xastir, it might be
 necessary
  for you to build it from source with the options you really want.
 
  --
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Re: [Xastir] Maps

[Paul Burton]

On Oct 22, 2013 10:14 AM, Michael Gregory michael.greg...@verizon.net
wrote:

   I went to the xastir wiki and got directions for building from a
tarball. I searched for the latest stable release, and found version
2.0.4. I executed the instructions from the wiki by copying and pasting the
terminal commands from the wiki to my terminal. FAIL

   The instructions are classic linux instructions, worthless frustrating
and a waste of time and effort.

I recently built xastir 2.0.4 from source using the documentation included
with the source and the wiki and once I got all the dependencies sorted, it
worked brilliantly.

 The mint package installed version, (2.0.0), works flawlessly as soon as
the user figures out that the information on the wiki about putting map
files in ~/xastir/map_cache is totally bogus. By placing my maps in
usr/share/xastir/maps they become available in the  map chooser drop down
and can be used just fine so long as they are of a limited set of vector
graphics.

The fact that your distro's package is doing things differently makes me
wonder what else it's doing. Perhaps it's not installing the all the
dependencies (or the correct versions). Did you follow the advice you
received to look at xastir's About window to see what libraries are
installed?

 It remains to be seen whether raster graphics will work because they
require no only the raster graphics, (.png, .gif, .tif, .jpg…) files, but
an accompanying text file with reference information so that the xastir app
or its sub components can parse the placement of objects on the graphic
background. I am having considerable difficulty finding raster files that
come with the associated text file and have come to the conclusion that I
am going to have to create them my self. Not difficult just not easy
either. It seems that repositories of this kid of data are scarce.

When I had everything properly configured, maps just worked. There was no
need to locate or create the descriptor files. Again, I believe they were
installed during the standard make install process. Are you trying to
download and cache the maps yourself so that xastir can find them, or allow
xastir to do it on the fly?


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Re: [Xastir] Maps

[Michael Gregory]

Lee,

  I did use synaptic. and it got me version 2.0.0. The issue is getting nice 
maps that I can use off line. not which version I have or how I came to get it.

73
KB3IYQ

Michael Gregory
michael.greg...@verizon.net



On 2013-10-22, at 10:51 AM, Lee Bengston lee.bengs...@gmail.com wrote:

 I would use the instructions at
 http://www.xastir.org/wiki/HowTo:Ubuntu_12.10
 I haven't checked, but my guess is that Mint 15 is equivalent to Ubuntu
 13.04, and the Ubuntu 12.10 instructions should be very close if not
 exactly right.  I would search for the packages using synaptic rather than
 using apt-get as the instructions say - just in case any packages have
 changed to newer versions.  If any have changed I would expect only one or
 two at most.  The current Berkely libdb package is one that comes to mind
 that may be newer than what is called out in the instructions.
 
 This will also get you the very latest version - newer than the tarball.
 
 Regards,
 Lee - K5DAT
 
 
 On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 10:02 AM, Michael Gregory 
 michael.greg...@verizon.net wrote:
 
 
Tom,
 
  I went to the xastir wiki and got directions for building from a
 tarball. I searched for the latest stable release, and found version
 2.0.4. I executed the instructions from the wiki by copying and pasting the
 terminal commands from the wiki to my terminal. FAIL
 
  The instructions are classic linux instructions, worthless frustrating
 and a waste of time and effort. The mint package installed version,
 (2.0.0), works flawlessly as soon as the user figures out that the
 information on the wiki about putting map files in ~/xastir/map_cache is
 totally bogus. By placing my maps in usr/share/xastir/maps they become
 available in the  map chooser drop down and can be used just fine so long
 as they are of a limited set of vector graphics. It remains to be seen
 whether raster graphics will work because they require no only the raster
 graphics, (.png, .gif, .tif, .jpg…) files, but an accompanying text file
 with reference information so that the xastir app or its sub components can
 parse the placement of objects on the graphic background. I am having
 considerable difficulty finding raster files that come with the associated
 text file and have come to the conclusion that I am going to have to create
 them my self. Not difficult just not easy either. It seems that
 repositories of this kid of data are scarce.
 
 73
 KB3IYQ
 
 Michael Gregory
 michael.greg...@verizon.net
 
 
 
 On 2013-10-21, at 11:46 PM, Tom Russo ru...@bogodyn.org wrote:
 
 On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 07:45:34PM -0400, we recorded a bogon-computron
 collision of the michael.greg...@verizon.net flavor, containing:
 
 I removed Xastir completely. Both by telling my package manager to
 removeit, and then by manually going to all of the directory locations
 ~/... and user share?. and manually deleting all of the files. I them
 re-installed it by having the package manager re-install.
 
 Which version is your package manager installing?  Which distro, and what
 does Help-About say about libraries compiled in.
 
 Many distros are notorious for having ancient versions of xastir in their
 package management systems.
 
 We also cannot be sure what compilation options were used when the
 package
 was built.  Remember that packages supplied by the distro are *not*
 created
 by the xastir project --- some volunteer generated the package for the
 distro, and that person may not even be an xastir user.
 
 To be really sure you get what you want out of xastir, it might be
 necessary
 for you to build it from source with the options you really want.
 
 --
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 http://www.swcp.com/~russo/
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Re: [Xastir] Maps

[Curt, WE7U]

On Tue, 22 Oct 2013, Curt, WE7U wrote:

You haven't mentioned what sort of raster graphics you're interested in yet. 
I would recommend using the OSM maps as a first step, which are vector maps 
from the OpenStreetMaps project.  Xastir can use OSM maps directly w/o having 
to download them manually onto your hard drive, but if you want local maps 
for driving or portable use, download the Cloudmade OSM Shapefile Extracts 
instead.


Once you have that working well, there are other OSM maps that are raster 
tiles.  There are USGS DRG geoTIFF maps (one of my favorites) for topo maps. 
There are USGS DOQQ aerial maps.  Just let us know what you're interested in 
and I'll bet someone on here can point you to them.


I was also going to mention:  If you can find raster maps out there that come with INF 
files, the Xastir project has the inf2geo.pl script that can create a .GEO 
file out of it.  You must have GraphicsMagick or ImageMagick installed, plus Perl, in 
order to use it.  Might give you a bunch more possibilities.

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Re: [Xastir] Maps

[Curt, WE7U]

On Tue, 22 Oct 2013, Michael Gregory wrote:


 I went to the xastir wiki and got directions for building from a tarball. I 
searched for the latest stable release, and found version 2.0.4. I executed 
the instructions from the wiki by copying and pasting the terminal commands from the 
wiki to my terminal. FAIL

 The instructions are classic linux instructions, worthless frustrating and a 
waste of time and effort.


You do understand that most of the 400 or 500 users on this list run Linux, 
right?

It helps to understand that Xastir's install needs to figure out the capabilities that 
are installed on the OS and morph accordingly into something that takes advantage of 
whatever is there.  The usual install on a fresh Linux box is to iterate through the 
./configure stage again and again, installing packages that Xastir can take 
advantage of, until the summary screen at the end is satisfactory.  It helps for people 
to write down the names of packages for their particular OS or flavor of OS while they're 
doing it, then put it up on the Wiki for the next sucker, I mean user, to try the 
install.  So the instructions get faster and more tuned for each flavor as people update 
the Wiki.

We've spent a great amount of time getting the install to be flexible enough to 
handle the thousands of differences among the various OS'es.  It's not an easy 
problem.

Then:  You're comparing the source install to a package install.  Two different 
animals.  The Xastir project doesn't do ANY packages, as there would be far too 
many for us to keep up with and we'd never get to work on source code.  It's up 
to individual users that have an interest in a particular OS to do the 
packaging and releases of same.



The mint package installed version, (2.0.0), works flawlessly as soon as the 
user figures out that the information on the wiki about putting map files in 
~/xastir/map_cache is totally bogus. By placing my maps in 
usr/share/xastir/maps they become available in the  map chooser drop down and 
can be used just fine so long as they are of a limited set of vector graphics. 
It remains to be seen whether raster graphics will work because they require no 
only the raster graphics, (.png, .gif, .tif, .jpg?) files, but an accompanying 
text file with reference information so that the xastir app or its sub 
components can parse the placement of objects on the graphic background. I am 
having considerable difficulty finding raster files that come with the 
associated text file and have come to the conclusion that I am going to have to 
create them my self. Not difficult just not easy either. It seems that 
repositories of this kid of data are scarce.


You haven't mentioned what sort of raster graphics you're interested in yet.  I 
would recommend using the OSM maps as a first step, which are vector maps from 
the OpenStreetMaps project.  Xastir can use OSM maps directly w/o having to 
download them manually onto your hard drive, but if you want local maps for 
driving or portable use, download the Cloudmade OSM Shapefile Extracts instead.

Once you have that working well, there are other OSM maps that are raster 
tiles.  There are USGS DRG geoTIFF maps (one of my favorites) for topo maps.  
There are USGS DOQQ aerial maps.  Just let us know what you're interested in 
and I'll bet someone on here can point you to them.

Starting to get a feel for how this community works?  It takes a few hours or 
days to spin people up to help you, but they're out there!

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Re: [Xastir] Maps

[David A Aitcheson]

Lee  all,

Synaptic is just a GUI for apt-get. They both do the same thing just one
requires more reading, thinking and typing.

With Mint_15 being based on Ububntu_13.04-RaringRingtail the
instructions at http://www.xastir.org/wiki/HowTo:Ubuntu_12.10 would be
the best bet unless someone else has done a Wiki update.

The _/*OTHER*/_ _/*MAJOR*/_ _/*CHANGE*/_ is the DEATH of the MEDIBUNTU
Project. See http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=2469 for details related to
Linux_Mint_**. Ubuntu has related information at
http://www.medibuntu.org/ and
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu - granted this may not apply
to many (if any) Xastir users, but at least you are aware of it.

73
Dave
KB3EFS

On 10/22/2013 10:51 AM, Lee Bengston wrote:
 I would use the instructions at
 http://www.xastir.org/wiki/HowTo:Ubuntu_12.10
 I haven't checked, but my guess is that Mint 15 is equivalent to Ubuntu
 13.04, and the Ubuntu 12.10 instructions should be very close if not
 exactly right.  I would search for the packages using synaptic rather than
 using apt-get as the instructions say - just in case any packages have
 changed to newer versions.  If any have changed I would expect only one or
 two at most.  The current Berkely libdb package is one that comes to mind
 that may be newer than what is called out in the instructions.

 This will also get you the very latest version - newer than the tarball.

 Regards,
 Lee - K5DAT


 On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 10:02 AM, Michael Gregory 
 michael.greg...@verizon.net wrote:

 Tom,

   I went to the xastir wiki and got directions for building from a
 tarball. I searched for the latest stable release, and found version
 2.0.4. I executed the instructions from the wiki by copying and pasting the
 terminal commands from the wiki to my terminal. FAIL

   The instructions are classic linux instructions, worthless frustrating
 and a waste of time and effort. The mint package installed version,
 (2.0.0), works flawlessly as soon as the user figures out that the
 information on the wiki about putting map files in ~/xastir/map_cache is
 totally bogus. By placing my maps in usr/share/xastir/maps they become
 available in the  map chooser drop down and can be used just fine so long
 as they are of a limited set of vector graphics. It remains to be seen
 whether raster graphics will work because they require no only the raster
 graphics, (.png, .gif, .tif, .jpg...) files, but an accompanying text file
 with reference information so that the xastir app or its sub components can
 parse the placement of objects on the graphic background. I am having
 considerable difficulty finding raster files that come with the associated
 text file and have come to the conclusion that I am going to have to create
 them my self. Not difficult just not easy either. It seems that
 repositories of this kid of data are scarce.

 73
 KB3IYQ

 Michael Gregory
 michael.greg...@verizon.net



 On 2013-10-21, at 11:46 PM, Tom Russo ru...@bogodyn.org wrote:

 On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 07:45:34PM -0400, we recorded a bogon-computron
 collision of the michael.greg...@verizon.net flavor, containing:
  I removed Xastir completely. Both by telling my package manager to
 removeit, and then by manually going to all of the directory locations
 ~/... and user share?. and manually deleting all of the files. I them
 re-installed it by having the package manager re-install.
 Which version is your package manager installing?  Which distro, and what
 does Help-About say about libraries compiled in.

 Many distros are notorious for having ancient versions of xastir in their
 package management systems.

 We also cannot be sure what compilation options were used when the
 package
 was built.  Remember that packages supplied by the distro are *not*
 created
 by the xastir project --- some volunteer generated the package for the
 distro, and that person may not even be an xastir user.

 To be really sure you get what you want out of xastir, it might be
 necessary
 for you to build it from source with the options you really want.

 --
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 http://www.swcp.com/~russo/
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Re: [Xastir] Maps

[Curt, WE7U]

On Tue, 21 Oct 2013, Michael Gregory wrote:


 I did use synaptic. and it got me version 2.0.0. The issue is getting nice 
maps that I can use off line. not which version I have or how I came to get it.


Well, the reason people ask about version is that there are sometimes very 
important bug-fixes that go in.  2.0.0 is quite old now and relatively buggy 
compared to 2.0.4 (latest release) or 2.0.5 (latest CVS development version).

As you send each message our picture of what you want gets slightly higher 
resolution...  Now I know you're after off-line maps!

Aerial, street, or topo?

For street, use the Cloudmade OSM Shapefile Extracts.

For topo, I'd recommend either the OSM topos (are there offline versions of 
that?) or the USGS DRG geoTIFF's.

Anyone have other recommendations?

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Re: [Xastir] Maps

[Ray Wells]

Yes synaptic is a front end for apt but it's much easier to use, 
especially when one is looking for files with changed names. Synaptic 
allows searching on partial names and one can scroll though a list, 
looking for likely candidates and reading the notes for particular files 
to see if there's a possible match. For me the synaptic gui 
compensates for my age induced inability to remember what I've read in 
command line. I reserve my use of apt-get for when I know exactly what I 
need.


I used dselect (that's fun!) for years before moving to apt-get and 
synaptic. The latter is the most user friendly, IMHO.


Ray vk2tv

On 23/10/13 05:57, David A Aitcheson wrote:

Lee  all,

Synaptic is just a GUI for apt-get. They both do the same thing just one
requires more reading, thinking and typing.

With Mint_15 being based on Ububntu_13.04-RaringRingtail the
instructions at http://www.xastir.org/wiki/HowTo:Ubuntu_12.10 would be
the best bet unless someone else has done a Wiki update.

The _/*OTHER*/_ _/*MAJOR*/_ _/*CHANGE*/_ is the DEATH of the MEDIBUNTU
Project. See http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=2469 for details related to
Linux_Mint_**. Ubuntu has related information at
http://www.medibuntu.org/ and
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu - granted this may not apply
to many (if any) Xastir users, but at least you are aware of it.

73
Dave
KB3EFS

On 10/22/2013 10:51 AM, Lee Bengston wrote:

I would use the instructions at
http://www.xastir.org/wiki/HowTo:Ubuntu_12.10
I haven't checked, but my guess is that Mint 15 is equivalent to Ubuntu
13.04, and the Ubuntu 12.10 instructions should be very close if not
exactly right.  I would search for the packages using synaptic rather than
using apt-get as the instructions say - just in case any packages have
changed to newer versions.  If any have changed I would expect only one or
two at most.  The current Berkely libdb package is one that comes to mind
that may be newer than what is called out in the instructions.

This will also get you the very latest version - newer than the tarball.

Regards,
Lee - K5DAT


On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 10:02 AM, Michael Gregory 
michael.greg...@verizon.net wrote:


 Tom,

   I went to the xastir wiki and got directions for building from a
tarball. I searched for the latest stable release, and found version
2.0.4. I executed the instructions from the wiki by copying and pasting the
terminal commands from the wiki to my terminal. FAIL

   The instructions are classic linux instructions, worthless frustrating
and a waste of time and effort. The mint package installed version,
(2.0.0), works flawlessly as soon as the user figures out that the
information on the wiki about putting map files in ~/xastir/map_cache is
totally bogus. By placing my maps in usr/share/xastir/maps they become
available in the  map chooser drop down and can be used just fine so long
as they are of a limited set of vector graphics. It remains to be seen
whether raster graphics will work because they require no only the raster
graphics, (.png, .gif, .tif, .jpg...) files, but an accompanying text file
with reference information so that the xastir app or its sub components can
parse the placement of objects on the graphic background. I am having
considerable difficulty finding raster files that come with the associated
text file and have come to the conclusion that I am going to have to create
them my self. Not difficult just not easy either. It seems that
repositories of this kid of data are scarce.

73
KB3IYQ

Michael Gregory
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On 2013-10-21, at 11:46 PM, Tom Russo ru...@bogodyn.org wrote:


On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 07:45:34PM -0400, we recorded a bogon-computron

collision of the michael.greg...@verizon.net flavor, containing:

  I removed Xastir completely. Both by telling my package manager to

removeit, and then by manually going to all of the directory locations
~/... and user share?. and manually deleting all of the files. I them
re-installed it by having the package manager re-install.

Which version is your package manager installing?  Which distro, and what
does Help-About say about libraries compiled in.

Many distros are notorious for having ancient versions of xastir in their
package management systems.

We also cannot be sure what compilation options were used when the

package

was built.  Remember that packages supplied by the distro are *not*

created

by the xastir project --- some volunteer generated the package for the
distro, and that person may not even be an xastir user.

To be really sure you get what you want out of xastir, it might be

necessary

for you to build it from source with the options you really want.

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On Oct 22, 2013 5:29 PM, Ray Wells vk...@exemail.com.au wrote:

 Yes synaptic is a front end for apt but it's much easier to use,
especially when one is looking for files with changed names. Synaptic
allows searching on partial names and one can scroll though a list, looking
for likely candidates and reading the notes for particular files to see if
there's a possible match. For me the synaptic gui compensates for my age
induced inability to remember what I've read in command line. I reserve my
use of apt-get for when I know exactly what I need.

IIRC, you can use apt-cache search and use wildcards (or maybe even
regex) to search for packages on the commands line.


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[Ray Wells]

Paul,

Maybe it's just me but I find apt-cache search uninviting. To each their 
own but at least we've presented options.


Ray vk2tv

On 23/10/13 08:36, Paul Burton wrote:

On Oct 22, 2013 5:29 PM, Ray Wells vk...@exemail.com.au wrote:


Yes synaptic is a front end for apt but it's much easier to use,

especially when one is looking for files with changed names. Synaptic
allows searching on partial names and one can scroll though a list, looking
for likely candidates and reading the notes for particular files to see if
there's a possible match. For me the synaptic gui compensates for my age
induced inability to remember what I've read in command line. I reserve my
use of apt-get for when I know exactly what I need.

IIRC, you can use apt-cache search and use wildcards (or maybe even
regex) to search for packages on the commands line.


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[Lee Bengston]

On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Michael Gregory 
michael.greg...@verizon.net wrote:


 Lee,

   I did use synaptic. and it got me version 2.0.0. The issue is getting
 nice maps that I can use off line. not which version I have or how I came
 to get it.

 73
 KB3IYQ

 Michael Gregory
 michael.greg...@verizon.net


I was referring specifically to the instructions at
http://www.xastir.org/wiki/HowTo:Ubuntu_12.10, which do not include
installing Xastir itself via Synaptic.  I was recommending using Synaptic
to install the dependent packages prior to compiling Xastir from source.
 The Xastir source code is downloaded from CVS, which provides the latest
and greatest version.

As I thought was explained previously, the version 2.0.0 that is in the
repository is a binary version of Xastir that may or may not have been
built correctly, and it is not fully known what features/functionality were
built into it.  The people that develop Xastir are harder pressed to help
you with the map issue if you are using that version because they were not
the ones who built that version of Xastir.

Regards,
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On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 5:14 PM, Ray Wells vk...@exemail.com.au wrote:



 Yes synaptic is a front end for apt but it's much easier to use,
 especially when one is looking for files with changed names.


Exactly, which is why I suggested using it.  Apt-cache search is OK, but
I prefer Synaptic.


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[Michael Gregory]

  I removed Xastir completely. Both by telling my package manager to removeit, 
and then by manually going to all of the directory locations ~/... and user 
share…. and manually deleting all of the files. I them re-installed it by 
having the package manager re-install.
I then went to the web and looked up every version of a .map file I could find, 
and installed them in the user/share/xaster/map directory.

 I havelots of vector line drawigs, but no raster maps.
They are sucky for quality, but at least they work. I have no Raster maps. I 
would love to get some and I have looked at some on line, but I am having 
troubole getting the descriptor files to go with them the ones with the upper 
left/north west and lower right/ south east longetude and lattitude data as 
well as the pixel count.

So for now It works but it sucks. I have not given up. eventually I will get it 
to work right in spite of the lack of support fom the community rather than 
because of it.

  Thanks for asking.

73
KB3IYQ

Michael Gregory
michael.greg...@verizon.net



On 2013-10-21, at 5:06 PM, Curt, WE7U curt.w...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Fri, 18 Oct 2013, Michael Gregory wrote:
 
 I just set up linux mint 15 and downloaded Xastir 2.0. When I enable Auto 
 maps and disable Auto Map - Disable Raster Map The program goes to the web 
 and downloads the map for my area,?over and over and over and?..
 
 It acts as though it is indexing and reading from one file location, and 
 storing the maps somewhere else.
 
 The software will display the correct map, but keeps downloading it 
 repeatedly.
 
 How can I get it to index and store properly and then use the local map?
 
 I didn't see anyone else respond yet.  Thanks for going through the trouble 
 to get on the list.  Getting answers from now on should be easier 'cuz you 
 have access to the hundreds of subscribers here to ask questions of.
 
 I'm curious whether you may have had an earlier Xastir installed before you 
 installed 2.0.  There was a change a while back to where some things were 
 stored.
 
 If you haven't done much configuration since the install, you might consider 
 stopping Xastir, then deleting the ~/.xastir directory completely.  Start 
 Xastir up again and it will re-create it for you.  Of course all of your 
 settings will be gone.  See if that fixes your map download problem though.  
 Here are the commands:
 
Stop Xastir
cd
rm -rf .xastir
Start Xastir up again
 
 A slightly less drastic measure (keeping a backup of your configs) would be 
 to do this:
 
Stop Xastir
cd
mv .xastir .xastir.save
Start Xastir up again
 
 This will do the same as previously described but you can go look at 
 ~/.xastir.save/config/xastir.cnf to see what your previous settings were.  
 You can also delete the new directory and rename the save directory back to 
 the original if you wish.  Like this:
 
Stop Xastir
cd
rm -rf .xastir
mv .xastir.save .xastir
Start Xastir up again
 
 Please try one of the first two sets of commands and let us know if it fixes 
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[Liz]

On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 19:45:34 -0400
Michael Gregory michael.greg...@verizon.net wrote:

 So for now It works but it sucks. I have not given up. eventually I
 will get it to work right in spite of the lack of support fom the
 community rather than because of it.

Michael, we really don't have much information. I have raster maps
sorted out for Australia, but I don't know where in the world you are.
I'm no DX-pert and presume that a callsign starting with K has an
American accent because I've heard such on IRLP.

Which maps did you download?
(Every one I could find isn't actually helpful.)

Did you follow specific instructions on any website?
(Because if they are broken, they need fixing)


Liz 
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On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 07:45:34PM -0400, we recorded a bogon-computron 
collision of the michael.greg...@verizon.net flavor, containing:
 
   I removed Xastir completely. Both by telling my package manager to 
 removeit, and then by manually going to all of the directory locations ~/... 
 and user share?. and manually deleting all of the files. I them re-installed 
 it by having the package manager re-install.

Which version is your package manager installing?  Which distro, and what
does Help-About say about libraries compiled in.

Many distros are notorious for having ancient versions of xastir in their
package management systems.

We also cannot be sure what compilation options were used when the package
was built.  Remember that packages supplied by the distro are *not* created
by the xastir project --- some volunteer generated the package for the 
distro, and that person may not even be an xastir user.  

To be really sure you get what you want out of xastir, it might be necessary
for you to build it from source with the options you really want.

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[Paul Burton]

I've compiled xastir 2.0.4 from source with just about every dependency
installed (IOW, configure runs happily without any complaints except that
shapefile support will be built into the xastir binary). I'm not using
festival either, but that doesn't bother me (and I don't see how it could
possibly impact the issue I'm having). This is on a 32-bit
slackware-current system.


When I run xastir, I see this:

Built-in map types:
  gnis   USGS GNIS Datapoints
   pop   USGS GNIS Datapoints w/population
   map   APRSdos Maps
   map   WinAPRS/MacAPRS/X-APRS Maps
   pdb   PocketAPRS Maps

Support for these additional map types has been compiled in:
   geo   Image Map (ImageMagick/GraphicsMagick library, many formats
allowed)
   geo   URL (Internet maps via libcurl library)
   geo   URL (OpenStreetMaps via libcurl library
  Copyright OpenStreetMap and contributors, CC-BY-SA)
   shp   ESRI Shapefile Maps (Shapelib library)
   tif   USGS DRG Geotiff Topographic Maps (libgeotiff/libproj)
   xpm   X Pixmap Maps (XPM library)
Indexing maps...
Finished indexing maps
*** Reading WX Alert log files
*** Done with WX Alert log files
ENOENT ERROR
Wed Oct 16 21:32:01 EDT 2013:
Interface Error!  Error opening interface 0 Hard Fail

Wed Oct 16 21:32:02 EDT 2013:
Interface Error!  Error opening interface 1 Hard Fail

TBD: I don't think we can deal with colorspace != RGB

[...]

It then repeats the TBD: I don't think... line indefinitely at odd
intervals.

Something I read (I think it was a bug report on the xastir Sourceforge
site) said that the colorspace alert was coming from GraphicsMagick, so I
tried compiling after passing --without-graphicksmagic to the configure
script to see if that changed anything. It didn't.

I can see that OpenStreetmap map files *are* being downloaded to
~/.xastir/map_cache/, they're just not displaying.

Any ideas what the problem may be?


Thanks.

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[Tom Russo]

On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 09:17:41AM -0400, we recorded a bogon-computron 
collision of the paulburt...@gmail.com flavor, containing:
 
 TBD: I don't think we can deal with colorspace != RGB
 
 [...]
 
 It then repeats the TBD: I don't think... line indefinitely at odd
 intervals.
 
 Something I read (I think it was a bug report on the xastir Sourceforge
 site) said that the colorspace alert was coming from GraphicsMagick, so I
 tried compiling after passing --without-graphicksmagic to the configure
 script to see if that changed anything. It didn't.

The alert is coming from the code that processes the .geo format, which
requires either ImageMagick or GraphicsMagick.  

I have seen a lot of people say they are having this problem, but I have 
*never* seen it myself.  I have no idea what the cause is.  It is probably not 
an issue that should require disabling GraphicsMagick (i.e. for which you need
ImageMagick instead), because honestly ImageMagick tends to be so bleeding-edge
that its updates often break Xastir until a devloper has time to rebug the 
code.  More often, IM is a problem and you need to use GM instead.  If 
both are on your system, Xastir's configure will prefer GM if it can use it, 
precisely because of this ImageMagick instability issue.  But that might
be a red herring here.

I have been using GraphicsMagick with the online map osm-tiled-mapnik.geo
for years and have no such problem.  So far, we haven't found any solid
information that points us to why anyone's getting this message, so haven't
been able to address it --- some folks report seeing this error message even 
with GM and the tiled-mapnik map, but none of the developers see it.  Maybe 
you can help in it down.

What online map are you using?  Does the problem also show up with 
osm-tiled-mapnik.geo?

Which version of ImageMagick or GraphicsMagick are you using?  Which of those
does configure say it's actually using?

What does gm version and Magick-config --version report?

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[Tom Russo]

On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 08:18:37AM -0600, we recorded a bogon-computron 
collision of the ru...@bogodyn.org flavor, containing:
 On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 09:17:41AM -0400, we recorded a bogon-computron 
 collision of the paulburt...@gmail.com flavor, containing:
  
  TBD: I don't think we can deal with colorspace != RGB
  
 
 What does gm version and Magick-config --version report?

Oh, and another thing to check:  Dig down into your .xastir/OSMtiles directory
and find one of the most recently downloaded tiles in the map set you've got
selected.  Perform the following two operations on one of those tiles:

   gm identify (filename)
   gm display (filename)

or (for ImageMagick) 
   identify (filename)
   display (filename)


Report the results.  For me, osm-tiled-mapnik tiles show:
 PNG 256x256+0+0 PseudoClass 254c 8-bit 18.3k 0.008u 0:01
from identify, and display Just Fine.  What happens for you?

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[Paul Burton]

On 10/17/2013 10:18 AM, Tom Russo wrote:
 The alert is coming from the code that processes the .geo format, which
 requires either ImageMagick or GraphicsMagick.  
 
 I have seen a lot of people say they are having this problem, but I have 
 *never* seen it myself.  I have no idea what the cause is.  It is probably 
 not 
 an issue that should require disabling GraphicsMagick (i.e. for which you need
 ImageMagick instead), because honestly ImageMagick tends to be so 
 bleeding-edge
 that its updates often break Xastir until a devloper has time to rebug the 
 code.  More often, IM is a problem and you need to use GM instead.  If 
 both are on your system, Xastir's configure will prefer GM if it can use it, 
 precisely because of this ImageMagick instability issue.  But that might
 be a red herring here.
 
 I have been using GraphicsMagick with the online map osm-tiled-mapnik.geo
 for years and have no such problem.  So far, we haven't found any solid
 information that points us to why anyone's getting this message, so haven't
 been able to address it --- some folks report seeing this error message even 
 with GM and the tiled-mapnik map, but none of the developers see it.  Maybe 
 you can help in it down.
 
 What online map are you using?  Does the problem also show up with 
 osm-tiled-mapnik.geo?
 
 Which version of ImageMagick or GraphicsMagick are you using?  Which of those
 does configure say it's actually using?
 
 What does gm version and Magick-config --version report?

After digging a little deeper into the mailing list archives, I've
concluded that I need to fiddle with ImageMagick and GraphicsMagick on
my system and try recompiling xastir. I have both IM and GM installed,
but based on what I've read (and your comments above), I should prefer
GM over IM.

I'm at the office now, but hopefully I'll have some time this evening to
mess with it. I'll report my findings if there's anything worth reporting.

Thanks.

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[Tom Russo]

On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 10:56:12PM -0400, we recorded a bogon-computron 
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OK, so I could have sworn that when I first downloaded xastir and was
getting ready to compile it, I made sure that GraphicsMagick was
installed. Apparently not, as ImageMagick has been used instead. When I
installed GM and used the --without-imagemagick configure option, just for
good measure, xastir finally found and used GM. Now OSM maps are
downloading *and* displaying quite nicely.

Hooray!  

There was once a time we considered completely dropping support for ImageMagick
because its instability was simply too much to keep chasing, and to require
GraphicsMagick instead.  But apparently there were one or two systems for
which the ImageMagick and GraphicsMagick packages conflicted, you couldn't have
both, and folks needed some other package that required IM.  Sigh.

Thanks for your help.

You're welcome.  Glad it was that simple.

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[Paul Burton]

OK, so I could have sworn that when I first downloaded xastir and was
getting ready to compile it, I made sure that GraphicsMagick was installed.
Apparently not, as ImageMagick has been used instead. When I installed GM
and used the --without-imagemagick configure option, just for good measure,
xastir finally found and used GM. Now OSM maps are downloading *and*
displaying quite nicely.

Thanks for your help.

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 On Oct 17, 2013 10:35 AM, Tom Russo ru...@bogodyn.org wrote:

 On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 08:18:37AM -0600, we recorded a bogon-computron
 collision of the ru...@bogodyn.org flavor, containing:
  On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 09:17:41AM -0400, we recorded a bogon-computron
 collision of the paulburt...@gmail.com flavor, containing:
  
   TBD: I don't think we can deal with colorspace != RGB
  
 
  What does gm version and Magick-config --version report?

 Oh, and another thing to check:  Dig down into your .xastir/OSMtiles
 directory
 and find one of the most recently downloaded tiles in the map set you've
 got
 selected.  Perform the following two operations on one of those tiles:

gm identify (filename)
gm display (filename)

 or (for ImageMagick)
identify (filename)
display (filename)


 Report the results.  For me, osm-tiled-mapnik tiles show:
  PNG 256x256+0+0 PseudoClass 254c 8-bit 18.3k 0.008u 0:01
 from identify, and display Just Fine.  What happens for you?

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Re: [Xastir] Maps!!!

[Curt, WE7U]

On Mon, 9 Apr 2012, Ryan Collier wrote:


1.) The program is saving the maps but I can not get the program to find
the cache map files. The cache map files are being saved here...
/home/user/.xastir/map_cache


Which maps?  The OSM map tiles are saved in ~/.xastir/OSMtiles/

Others can be cached in the directory you mention.  I mostly use OSM maps these days.  
Much quicker, very much up-to-date.  Entirely different caching code used in Xastir.  I 
don't know why it would be caching maps but not retrieving them.  You do have to match 
the same zoom level and map center if you expect to get a cache hit.  If you're 
constantly zooming/panning, you're not going to get many cache hits unless you use the 
OSM tiles.  If you use OSM, remember the F4 key as it will force you to zoom 
levels that look best with those maps.  Immediately after I zoom in or out I hit F4 if 
I'm using OSM maps.



2.) Everytime it down loads I get these on the screen.
DB -get: method not permitted before handle's open method
and
DB -put: method not permitted before handle's open method


Are you using an RPM-based system?  If so you might try this:

rpm -qa | grep libdb

Mine shows this:

$ rpm -qa | grep libdb
libdb-4_5-4.5.20-113.1.2.i586
libdb-4_8-devel-4.8.30-11.1.4.i586
libdb-4_5-devel-4.5.20-113.1.2.i586
libdbusmenu-qt2-0.9.0-2.1.2.i586
libdb-4_8-4.8.30-11.1.4.i586

The important thing to notice is that the -devel package version number 
matches the installed libdb version number.  I'm running OpenSuSE-12.1 64-bit, fresh 
install here, but it looks like I might want to remove some 4.5 packages so they don't 
conflict with the 4.8 packages, if I can (sometimes other packages depend on them and I 
can't remove the library, but I should be able to remove the 4.5 -devel package).  It's 
when you cross version numbers between the -devel and the library that you most often run 
into issues.  If I remember correctly, if you only have one -devel package installed for 
libdb and it matches the most recent libdb package, you're probably ok.



3.) I downloaded the shape files but the weather map will not show up on
the openstreetmap?


How did you download the shapefiles?  Using the script as root?  What version 
of Xastir are you running, and did you install it from sources or from a 
pre-compiled package?  We just tweaked the script a couple of weeks ago to 
download the latest weather Shapefiles, but that version is only in CVS.  You'd 
probably need the latest dbfawk files from CVS to match as well.

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[Xastir] Maps!!!

[Ryan Collier]

Good Evening,

Want to start off with a congrats on a great program.

Now to what I am having a problem with:

1.) The program is saving the maps but I can not get the program to find
the cache map files. The cache map files are being saved here...
/home/user/.xastir/map_cache

2.) Everytime it down loads I get these on the screen.
DB -get: method not permitted before handle's open method
and
DB -put: method not permitted before handle's open method

3.) I downloaded the shape files but the weather map will not show up on
the openstreetmap?

I am guessing I am doing something wrong or forgetting something.

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Re: [Xastir] Maps

[Tim Billingsley]

Now that life has settled a bit.

tim@box2:~$ ls -al ~/.xastir/OSMtiles
ls: cannot access /home/tim/.xastir/OSMtiles: No such file or directory

Still no maps here, but all else is working great to the best of my
knowledge.

I tried doing a locate on OSMtiles
No success. I don't know what I missed or what I threw the wrench into, but
any advice/suggestions are appreciated.

73

On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 5:57 AM, Curt, WE7U curt.w...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Fri, 24 Jun 2011, WE0Z wrote:

  I have not gotten experienced enough to develop my own map library so I
 rely of the Internet download from Osmerander. While I see it downloads the
 tiles and paints the map and I realize it takes time to download and then it
 caches maps every time it downloads new tiles.

 The question I have is those tiles that have been cached where do they go
 as I cannot seem to find them and also if they are stored on the disk why
 does it take so long to repaint the map from the disk? Is there something I
 can do. I am running dual-core 32-bit with 2GB RAM.


 I'm usually running 4GB dual-core 64-bit systems and the drawing takes
 about as long as I would expect it to for raster tiles.  I run very
 small-memory 32-bit systems on laptops for events and am generally still
 pleased with the map rendering time.  Often I'm running Shapefile maps
 instead on those machines 'cuz I don't always have internet access during an
 event.

 OSM tiles are saved in the ~/.xastir/OSMtiles/ directory.

 I don't know if any profiling has been done since the OSM code was written.
  The codebase was profiled prior to that a couple of times, first the
 non-map code, then each individual map type.  It's possible that another
 round of profiling for the OSM code would benefit us.

 Anyone interesting in trying it:  There are notes near the end of the
 INSTALL file that detail how to profile the code.  The last time I
 profiled the map code I added a loop to the the map code so that it loaded
 each selected map 1000 times, then ran the profiler once per map type to
 determine which map code needed work.  Without that tweak it was difficult
 to see the map code in the profiling stats at all.

 BTW:  Regarding the note in my signature below:  The WE7U-WX server is down
 at the moment due to a problem on the server.  I'll try to get that back up
 after Field Day is over.

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Re: [Xastir] Maps

[Lee Bengston]

On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 6:27 AM, WE0Z bbaile...@att.net wrote:
 I have not gotten experienced enough to develop my own map library so I rely
 of the Internet download from Osmerander. While I see it downloads the tiles
 and paints the map and I realize it takes time to download and then it
 caches maps every time it downloads new tiles.

  The question I have is those tiles that have been cached where do they go
 as I cannot seem to find them and also if they are stored on the disk why
 does it take so long to repaint the map from the disk? Is there something I
 can do. I am running dual-core 32-bit with 2GB RAM.

One of my Xastir installations is on an Intel atom based computer -
1Ggz with 2GB of RAM.  It's been kind of an experiment for a headless
IGate among other things.  One of the things I did while playing
around was install APRSIS32 under wine.  Even while being at a
disadvantage under wine, the OSM map performance is outstanding -
zooms, moves, etc happen significantly faster than what I see with
Xastir - it's really not close.  So it seems there's room for
improvement on the OSM map front, although the addition of the OSM
support in general is still a fantastic thing.

Lee - K5DAT
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[Xastir] Maps

[WE0Z]

I have not gotten experienced enough to develop my own map library so I 
rely of the Internet download from Osmerander. While I see it downloads 
the tiles and paints the map and I realize it takes time to download and 
then it caches maps every time it downloads new tiles.


 The question I have is those tiles that have been cached where do they 
go as I cannot seem to find them and also if they are stored on the disk 
why does it take so long to repaint the map from the disk? Is there 
something I can do. I am running dual-core 32-bit with 2GB RAM.


Bob WE0Z
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Re: [Xastir] Maps

[Curt, WE7U]

On Fri, 24 Jun 2011, WE0Z wrote:

I have not gotten experienced enough to develop my own map library so I rely 
of the Internet download from Osmerander. While I see it downloads the tiles 
and paints the map and I realize it takes time to download and then it caches 
maps every time it downloads new tiles.


The question I have is those tiles that have been cached where do they go as 
I cannot seem to find them and also if they are stored on the disk why does 
it take so long to repaint the map from the disk? Is there something I can 
do. I am running dual-core 32-bit with 2GB RAM.


I'm usually running 4GB dual-core 64-bit systems and the drawing takes about as 
long as I would expect it to for raster tiles.  I run very small-memory 32-bit 
systems on laptops for events and am generally still pleased with the map 
rendering time.  Often I'm running Shapefile maps instead on those machines 
'cuz I don't always have internet access during an event.

OSM tiles are saved in the ~/.xastir/OSMtiles/ directory.

I don't know if any profiling has been done since the OSM code was written.  
The codebase was profiled prior to that a couple of times, first the non-map 
code, then each individual map type.  It's possible that another round of 
profiling for the OSM code would benefit us.

Anyone interesting in trying it:  There are notes near the end of the INSTALL 
file that detail how to profile the code.  The last time I profiled the map code I added 
a loop to the the map code so that it loaded each selected map 1000 times, then ran the 
profiler once per map type to determine which map code needed work.  Without that tweak 
it was difficult to see the map code in the profiling stats at all.

BTW:  Regarding the note in my signature below:  The WE7U-WX server is down at 
the moment due to a problem on the server.  I'll try to get that back up after 
Field Day is over.

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[Xastir] maps: how many are too many?

[Jason KG4WSV]

I've been playing around with some OSM tile mapping in other
applications (tangogps, etc).  I know xastir has some OSM tile
support, but it's meant for online operation.

So, I started playing around.  I'm using an ubuntu VM on my macbook
pro.  2.66GHz i7, 4Gb RAM, 1 processor allocated to VM.

The OSM tile coordinate system is fairly straightforward.  A little
hacking resulted in a script that will download maps for a given
rectangle and zoom level, so I can preload a map cache (for tangogps).
 Grab files for areas where I live, work, and play. Surprisingly, this
only results in about 1.8Gb of data.

Yet more hacking results in a script to generate .geo files for
everything in the tangogps/OSM map cache.

Now then, let's feed 'em to xastir.  In case you're curious, it takes
about 3 or 4 hours to index 250,000 new maps.

Operations that involve managing maps - changes in maps selected for
display, zooming, or just opening the map chooser with expand dirs
on - can be quite slow.  Like come back in 10 minutes slow.  Once you
get the map view you want, things are surprisingly back to normal.
panning around redraws in normal time, even though at the moment I
have 100,000+ tiles to chose from, plus a set of TIGER shapefiles to
render on top of that. zooming is fine, too, unless I zoom far enough
to change the mapset.

Conclusion: using xastir pre-rendered map tiles for detailed data for
a large area is not practical at this point.  If you change OSM zoom
levels, the penalty is just too high.


Next step, see if I can shoehorn a map rendering engine, web server,
and caching proxy server onto my xastir box and see if that is
feasible.

Or maybe I should just tweak/create some dbfawks so the shapefile
lines and labels are fat enough for me to see 'em while driving.

-Jason
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Re: [Xastir] Maps Offline?

[Kurt Savegnago]

Ahhh,

  How does one download the whole state and not county by county.
Using a batchfile utility I find a pita.  I like clicking on a state and 
getting all the files at once.  Can't beat getting something like
ILL.zip and unzipping it.:-)

Kurt KC9LDH


--- On Tue, 9/21/10, Curt, WE7U curt.w...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Curt, WE7U curt.w...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [Xastir] Maps Offline?
 To: Xastir - APRS client software discussion xastir@lists.xastir.org
 Date: Tuesday, September 21, 2010, 4:39 PM
 On Tue, 21 Sep 2010, Kurt Savegnago
 wrote:
 
   Yeah, I meant the 2006 Tiger maps that were made
 available.
  I unzipped them to the ~/maps/GPS directory.
 
 Tiger 2009 too new for you?  We have dbfawk files in
 Xastir-1.99
 for the 2009 Tiger/Line files.
 
   http://www.census.gov/geo/www/tiger/tgrshp2009/tgrshp2009.html
 
 Note also that you can create directories under the
 /usr/local/share/xastir/maps/ directory at will... 
 You just need to
 make them readable by a normal user.  Same for the map
 files
 themselves.
 
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              http://www.eskimo.com/~archer
    APRS:  Where it's at!   
                
 http://www.xastir.org
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Re: [Xastir] Maps Offline?

[Lee Bengston]

ftp://ftp2.census.gov/geo/tiger/TIGER2009/

If you use an FTP client like CuteFTP or gftp, you can copy the entire
state folder.

Lee - K5DAT


On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 4:10 AM, Kurt Savegnago ksav...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 Ahhh,

  How does one download the whole state and not county by county.
 Using a batchfile utility I find a pita.  I like clicking on a state and
 getting all the files at once.  Can't beat getting something like
 ILL.zip and unzipping it.:-)

                                        Kurt KC9LDH


 --- On Tue, 9/21/10, Curt, WE7U curt.w...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Curt, WE7U curt.w...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [Xastir] Maps Offline?
 To: Xastir - APRS client software discussion xastir@lists.xastir.org
 Date: Tuesday, September 21, 2010, 4:39 PM
 On Tue, 21 Sep 2010, Kurt Savegnago
 wrote:

   Yeah, I meant the 2006 Tiger maps that were made
 available.
  I unzipped them to the ~/maps/GPS directory.

 Tiger 2009 too new for you?  We have dbfawk files in
 Xastir-1.99
 for the 2009 Tiger/Line files.

   http://www.census.gov/geo/www/tiger/tgrshp2009/tgrshp2009.html

 Note also that you can create directories under the
 /usr/local/share/xastir/maps/ directory at will...
 You just need to
 make them readable by a normal user.  Same for the map
 files
 themselves.

 -- Curt, WE7U.
              http://www.eskimo.com/~archer
    APRS:  Where it's at!

 http://www.xastir.org
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