[57north-discuss] Secure Tuesday

[Tom jones]

Hello All,

On Sunday morning I interrupted a burglar in the act of robbing the space. 
There are some new actions 
that members will need to do when leaving the space. Come in tonight and we 
will tell you about them. There is also now some hazardous equipment in the 
space follow rule three in both cases. 
“If you don’t know ask”

Back to our regularly scheduled programming…

ITS TUESDAY 

Every Tuesday is 57 North’s open night, any one is welcome to come a long and 
see the space. Not a lot of ‘real’ work can be done on a Tuesday because other 
people are just too damned interesting.

Any members coming and planning to work on projects should reply to this(the 
discuss list email).

Tonight I will be trying to get a PS/2 keyboard speaking to an arduino. I might 
play with camera control too, if given enough beer I will recall the sage of 
“The Viking Raid”.

Things Happening in the space:

Thursday the 13th March 2014: 
Lock Sport Night:   Come and learn how to take control of your 
locks, we will provide instructions,
demonstrations and training so you can 
learn secure locks really are. 
Free for members, £5 for non members.

Saturday the 15th March 2014:
MakeIt-Glo: Come to our introductory electronics workshop, you will 
use an arduino like board and build an 
awesome RGB lamp.
https://ti.to/57northhacklab/makeit-glo
£12

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Re: [57north-discuss] Sunday

[Tom jones]

I am in the space now. 

Looks like Russia has managed to create a red army division out of Aberdeen 
fans.


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Re: [57north-discuss] Sunday

[Tom jones]

| In a spirit of cooperation between fundamentally different cultures
| (Linux and BSD in our case)nwill you check if that 2U server I fixed 
for
| you is still working?

I have and it does. 


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Re: [57north-discuss] Fwd: Re: [hackerspaces] handling new members

[Tom jones]

That seems like a nice way to vet members and keep membership at a steady rate.

Do we still not need all the members we can get?


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Re: [57north-discuss] IMPORTANT: Things In The Space

[Tom jones]

 That sounds worryingly present tense and vague... 

I stopped Iain throwing anything away, there are some full bin bags though.

 Rob - Lots of monitors seem to be in the space. Are these yours? Do 
you
 still want to play with the broken one?

 How many is lots? 

There are two monitors on the central desk. Another is taking up shelf space.

 I think monitors are useful and I'd like there to be lots in the 
space.
 If they're annoying people being on benches

Right now we are having work bench problems. We need to figure out how to keep
the space usable.

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[57north-discuss] Tonight

[Tom Jones]

I am about to head in to the space, does anyone fancy joining me.

I will be working on my car radio and drinking beer.


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[57north-discuss] PAT Testing

[Tom jones]

For the Hack n Make we need to have had our stuff PAT tested.
Iain seems to believe we can just do this ourselves and put the
stickers on.

Does anyone know the truth of the matter and/or fancy buying
us some stickers. 


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[57north-discuss] Dinosaur Fighting Tuesday

[Tom jones]

Hi All,

Again it is Tuesday, 57North’s weekly open night. Anyone is welcome to come 
along 
and see the space and what we do. There will also be drinking of beer.

Members heading in tonight should reply to this with what they plan to do.

Tonight I will be setting up Airplay and MPD on a raspberry pi. And drinking
beer.


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Re: [57north-discuss] [57north-announce] Meeting 2014-04-22

[Tom Jones]

On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 10:01:59PM +0100, Iain R. Learmonth wrote:
  In Iain's absence Carl provided pictures of some cats. One was
  sleeping on a laptop.
 
 Why were these vital pictures not linked in the minutes?

Cat pictures are important, but I feel a specialised site should be created to 
house them. This we can share with the internet community at large.

  ## Being welcoming
  
  We need to be more welcoming of other people to get more members.
  There has been too much stuff on the mailing list where folks are
  expecting too much technical ability or getting annoyed with people
  because of overly specific expectations of what a hackspace member
  should be. We need more members so everyone needs to try harder to be
  friendly.
  
 
 I do not expect people to have technical ability magically, but I expect
 them to want to acquire it, not just go it's a hackerspace as an excuse
 for shoddy work.

We should be nice to anyone no matter what. Though personally I have a very 
short fuze for people that don't want to learn. I hate having to learn when I 
want to do, so I can see where people are coming from. I lead a troubled life.

 
  ## Decision making
  
  There was some discussion about how we should be making decisions. 
  
  There was no real consensus on how this should be happening for day to
  day decisions. Some points that were hit:
 
 
 So no decision was made on how we should make decisions?
 
   * Anything involving spending money should go to the directors
 
 
 It should probably go to everyone, as a discussion on the mailing list? Two
 directors need to sign off on it legally, but members should also be
 involved.

It should go to everyone, but that won't work. In the end all money related 
decisions go through me until we have a bank account. I will ask anyone that 
will listen because I **don'** want to be hated.

   * Directors need a majority of them to agree to have agreement
 
 What? Please clarify.

I thought it was two(2).


 ## AGM

 According to our articles of association we were supposed to have an
 AGM in April so this will be an AGM (if the directors agree and we
 manage to get out an announcement on time...).

This is here 
https://github.com/hackerdeen/articles/commit/58dc945981e15cb751968b22290e9b7f6c4ad68c#diff-8f70be4e1e768e1b1d4787a2b3ea94d5R266

I remember when the proto(We weren't a company then) directors walked through 
the articles we said this would be set to our first aniversary. 

Can some others back this up, I don't think having the AGM in May makes any
sense at all.

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Re: [57north-discuss] New Member procedure

[Tom Jones]

On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 11:07:06AM +0100, Calum Chisholm wrote:
  They are also asked to pay 1 months member fee at their first space visit.
 
 I think charging £20 to drop in on a Tuesday night could put quite a few
 potential members off. I would prefer to ask them for a £5 suggested
 donation, the same as we ask from 'casual users' of the space. After all,
 what's the distinction between the two at that point?

Tuesday nights are an Open Night, the point is to open up the space for people 
to see and look around.

The £20 should go along with the application form as per the articles. 

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[57north-discuss] Bank Account

[Tom Jones]

Just got a call from our bank manager and the space finally has an account. 
If will be a week or so until we have access to it, but I can finally unstuff
my mattress.

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[57north-discuss] Tuesday Again

[Tom Jones]

Hell All,

Once again it is Tuesday, 57North Hacklab's weekly open night. Each week the 
space is opened up to anyone that wants to come a long and see the space. 

As usual members that are coming a long with a plan should reply to this on 
-discuss and let everyone else know. This way we all get an idea of the cool 
things members of the space are doing.

Things Coming up:
Themed Thursday:Thursday 1st of May 
Garry's Mod night
Hack 'n' Make:  Sunday 11th May
Aberdeen's Hackers and Makers 
get together and display 
what they do to the great folk 
of Aberdeen. 57North will
be exhibiting members projects 
and running a small 
workshop, if you want to be 
involved 
contact 
Tom(jo...@sdf.org),Ed(m...@edwardwatson.co.uk)

Come and join me in June for campgnd
campgnd.com


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[57north-discuss] campGND Tickets On Sale Now!

[Tom Jones]

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What:
campGND is a weekend long camping festival for hackers and makers running June
27th-29th 2014.

campGND will be held in a scenic location in the North East of Scotland, there
will be power, wifi and mesh networks and a lake to swim in.

Where:
campGND will be on a site roughly 10 miles from Huntly. It should be noted that
the nearest public transit will only go as far as Huntly. Our mail list is the 
perfect place to arrange ride shares from Aberdeen, Huntly or further a field.

More Info:
@campgnd
cont...@campgnd.com

Tickets on sale via tito now.
https://ti.to/57northhacklab/campgnd 

Discussion mailing list
http://lists.57north.co/listinfo/campgnd-discuss

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[57north-discuss] Friday Night

[Tom Jones]

Hello All, 

Iain and myself are going to head into the space once my kernel has compiled. 
We will drink beer and hack things. 

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Re: [57north-discuss] It's Tuesday

[Tom Jones]

On Tue, May 06, 2014 at 10:55:02AM +0100, Robert McWilliam wrote:
 Tuesday has again rolled around, so time to head to the space, drink,
 chat and possibly do something productive (or otherwise interesting). 
 

Cool someone else will send the email if I am busy.

 I'll be trying to get more of the videowall working. I could do with
 some more VGA cables (15pin male D things) that I can cut up if anyone
 has any spare - and volunteers to help with the cutting up and attaching
 jumpers would also be appreciated. 


I am sure I could help with some cuttiny.

 What're other people's plans?
 

I am going to try and finish my hacking in progress sign, depending on when I 
get in to the space it might be really fancy. If might just be a light.

 Also, we're in a new month so bring money :)

Money is good, Carl can you bring me money too?

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[57north-discuss] Hack N Make

[Tom Jones]

Hack N Make is this Sundae. 

Set up for HnM starts tomorrow at 1700. Right now we don't have anything 
that advertises the space. If some one could make a few banners tomorrow that
would be awesome. 

HnM runs on Sunday from 0900-1600, Elphinstone Hall, King's College, The
University of Aberdeen. We will be allowed in from 0800 to straighten up our
booth. We have to be out of Elphinstone before 1700, there is another event
running.

Unfortunately most of the people that have told me they are coming along to
help are going to are also coming to Edinburgh tomorrow to help protect your
freedom.

That means the usual suspects won't be able to help with prep until Saturday
evening.  There are a few simple things that could be made that will make our
booth not look like shit.

* 57 North Banners
* Flyers of some sort
* Signage stuff

Probably lots of other things too. 

I am taking a teletype that is in my office and will be trying to make it work 
on Sunday.


All times are in BST(UTC+1). Dates are in the Gregorian calendar. Unless 
otherwise
specified locations discussed are in Scotland, Earth, The Milky way Galaxy,
Universe 4.

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Re: [57north-discuss] Hack N Make - Call to arms

[Tom Jones]

On Fri, May 09, 2014 at 08:49:31AM +0100, Carl Anderson wrote:
 I'll be along with my text controlled plug and MPD on a rasp pi. On the day
 I'll be trying to set up a python daemon to manage some button controls and
 lcd screen for it.
 
 Does anyone have a couple of small push buttons I could steal?

Swing by my office after 1500 and I could find you some.

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[57north-discuss] Tuesday

[Tom Jones]

Hi All,

It is Tuesday again, our weekly open night.

Any member that is planning on coming in should reply here and tell everyone
the cool things they plan to do.

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Re: [57north-discuss] Saturday

[Tom Jones]

 On 23 May 2014, at 19:47, Carl Anderson noodlemon...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi folks, I will be in the space tomorrow from 12 til 5ish 
 

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Re: [57north-discuss] Beer festival

[Tom Jones]

I will be getting there about half 3 or so, depending on how long it takes me
and my father to walk down.

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[57north-discuss] Sunny Tuesday

[Tom Jones]

Hello All,

Tuesday night again, 57North's weekly open night. If you want to come and visit 
the space head down and catch up with what is going on.

If you are aiming to work on something cool, tell the list.

Note: If the weather changes from -CURRENT I blame Rob

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Re: [57north-discuss] [PATCH] Added Iain Learmonth's birthday

[Tom Jones]

On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 08:18:55PM +0100, Iain R. Learmonth wrote:
 ---
  calendar.57northmembers | 1 +
  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+)
 
 diff --git a/calendar.57northmembers b/calendar.57northmembers
 index e4b7758..8a416c2 100644
 --- a/calendar.57northmembers
 +++ b/calendar.57northmembers
 @@ -1,6 +1,7 @@
  #ifndef CALENDAR_57NORTH_MEMBERS
  #define CALENDAR_57NORTH_MEMBERS
  
 +08/14Iain R. Learmonth i...@fsfe.org was born in Milton Keynes, 
 England, 1990
  11/04Tom Jones jo...@sdf.org was born in Aberdeen, Scotland, 1990
  
  #endif /* CALENDAR_57NORTH_MEMBERS */
 -- 
 2.0.0

Thats fine, applied.

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Re: [57north-discuss] [PATCH] Added Ed's birthday

[Tom Jones]

On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 09:07:54PM +0100, Ed Watson wrote:
 ---
  calendar.57northmembers | 1 +
  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+)
 
 diff --git a/calendar.57northmembers b/calendar.57northmembers
 index 8a416c2..74a16f0 100644
 --- a/calendar.57northmembers
 +++ b/calendar.57northmembers
 @@ -3,5 +3,6 @@
  
  08/14Iain R. Learmonth i...@fsfe.org was born in Milton Keynes, 
 England, 1990
  11/04Tom Jones jo...@sdf.org was born in Aberdeen, Scotland, 1990
 +12/24Ed Watson m...@edwardwatson.co.uk was born in Grimsby, 1984
  
  #endif /* CALENDAR_57NORTH_MEMBERS */
 -- 
 1.8.2.1

Can you add a country of Birth? If you were on a ship the country where
registered should be marked as your country of birth.

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Re: [57north-discuss] [PATCH] Added youname's birthday

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On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 10:08:03PM +0100, Your Name wrote:
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  calendar.57northmembers | 1 +
  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+)
 
 diff --git a/calendar.57northmembers b/calendar.57northmembers
 index 8a416c2..cb4da4a 100644
 --- a/calendar.57northmembers
 +++ b/calendar.57northmembers
 @@ -3,5 +3,6 @@
  
  08/14Iain R. Learmonth i...@fsfe.org was born in Milton Keynes, 
 England, 1990
  11/04Tom Jones jo...@sdf.org was born in Aberdeen, Scotland, 1990
 +08/12   Giles Bayliss merlinst...@gmail.com was born, 1990
  
  #endif /* CALENDAR_57NORTH_MEMBERS */
 -- 
 1.9.1

Cool a few points,

If you don't want to include location and year of birth just leave it off.
The date format at the start of the line is mm/dd.
There should be a tab between the date and the text.
You need a closing angle bracket at the end of your email.

You can test that you added this correctly by running 
 $ calendar -t 08.12 -f calendar.57northmembers

That should tell you your birthday is coming up.

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Re: [57north-discuss] Introducing hackr

[Tom Jones]

On Tue, Jul 08, 2014 at 09:58:39AM +0100, Tony Travis wrote:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1
 
 On 06/07/14 13:13, Iain R. Learmonth wrote:
  [...] This project isn't just about providing a service to members
  and leaving them on their own, but also providing guides on how to
  do things in a Linux environment to allow people an entry point to
  using Linux. To that end, there is a wiki page:
  https://57north.co/wiki/Hackr which lists a series of guides. I
  hope to see that list grow in the coming weeks.
 
 Hi, Iain.
 
 No sure how a BSD server helps people learn about Linux ;-)
 
 Does this make the servers I got from Petrotech redundant?
 
 I installed Ubuntu on meerkat so anyone who is interested in
 learning about Linux hands-on can use it. However, I don't mind if
 we just scrap these machines. I'll tell Kit Wright we don't want any more.
 
 Do you and Tom still want these 2U 'Rackable' servers from me?

I certainly do, I still want to build a cluster.

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[57north-discuss] Photowalk this Sunday

[Tom Jones]

I was thinking of conducting a [Photowalk][1] this Sunday. The plan would be
meet in town near my flat at 10 and head out to [Treylong Bay][2] which is
roughly around 56.900,-2.207. To access the bay we may have to assert our
[Freedom to Roam][3], this will probably involve an amount of climbing,
scrambling and will require general adventurousness.

Anyone that wants to come along should reply to this so we can get an idea of
numbers.  There will be space in my car for three people, beyond that someone
might offer to provide transport. 

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photowalking
[2]: 
https://www.google.com/maps/place/56%C2%B054'00.0%22N+2%C2%B012'25.2%22W/@56.895,-2.207,15z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0x0
[3]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_to_roam#Scotland 

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Re: [57north-discuss] Introducing hackr

[Tom Jones]

On Wed, Jul 09, 2014 at 12:53:40AM +0100, Tony Travis wrote:
 On 08/07/14 10:21, Tom Jones wrote:
  On Tue, Jul 08, 2014 at 09:58:39AM +0100, Tony Travis wrote:
  [...]
  Do you and Tom still want these 2U 'Rackable' servers from me?
  
  I certainly do, I still want to build a cluster.
 
 Hi, Tom.
 
 In the Space, or at UoA?

UoA is the best place, easier to get a vehicle to and free power.

 I'm on holiday just now, but back on Tue 15 Jul.

Enjoy your holiday, we can go through the machines when you get back.

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[57north-discuss] [ja...@jarofgreen.co.uk: [Supporter-council] TTIP Twitter Jacking Tomorrow!]

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- Forwarded message from James Baster ja...@jarofgreen.co.uk -

Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 15:50:11 +0100
From: James Baster ja...@jarofgreen.co.uk
To: supporter-coun...@lists.openrightsgroup.org
Subject: [Supporter-council] TTIP Twitter Jacking Tomorrow!

http://trade.ec.europa.eu/doclib/press/index.cfm?id=1122

They are doing a live twitter session with EU ppl. 10am CET ... so 9am our
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Time to teach them why live twitter chats on contraversial topics are not a
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[57north-discuss] They get everything in London

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This went by in #emfcamp

Stanto | If anyone in london wants a raspi b+ they're being given away today
SamLR  | jasperw, ^
SamLR  | Stanto, where?  
Stanto | SamLR, Westminster bridge 12 to 1.30, tower bridge 1.30 to 3 , You
   | have to ask for Raspberry with your ice 
SamLR  | heh that's pretty cool :)

I guess being in the heart of the country gives you certain accordances.

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Re: [57north-discuss] Nook Simple Touch

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On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 09:08:39AM -0400, Peet42 wrote:
 
   Not the most powerful machine in the world, but looks like it could be a 
  nice platform to hack on. Or I suppose you could use it (in theory) for 
  reading books...
 
 
   http://bookshop.blackwell.co.uk/jsp/id/NOOK_Simple_Touch/9781400699032
 
 
   Specs here:
   http://nookdevs.com/Nook_Simple_Touch
 
 
   C.
 
 I bought one of these for my Mother when they were reduced to £19, and I
 still feel I was overcharged.  It's quite slow, the interface is clunky
 (although you could probably flash it with something else) and, most
 importantly, there's no Reset button and the case is moulded shut.  This
 means that I was forced to return mine through the post to Germany *twice*
 because bad files from the Nook store caused it to lock up.

Thanks for that, I was actually considering picking one up. If they are that
much of a nightmare I won't bother.

 If you're going to spend £29, go onto eBay and get a used Kindle 3rd
 generation, with the keyboard.  You can hack those to use them as a (slow)
 free 3G dongle. :-)

I have also been thinking of getting a good kindle again, it will go on my list.

 (Sorry for butting in.  I'm the guy who wanted to attend, but the three days
 you're open are the three days I'm on kidney dialysis...)

We are of course open sporadically everyday. While Tuesday's,Thursday's and
Saturday's we are planning on being open. Any time you can make it in you should
ask the list or on irc.

Most of the time there is someone waiting for someone else to hack with.

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Re: [57north-discuss] Microcontroller for simulating a USB HID

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On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 03:07:29PM +0100, Calum Chisholm wrote:
 All,
 Can anyone suggest a suitable microcontroller for simulating a USB
 keyboard? Is the Teensy still the way to go for this, or is something like
 the Arduino Micro (or similar) a better option these days?
 

There is the [v-usb][1] stack that can simulate a lot of USB. It runs on an 
ATTINY
and is part of what makes the digispark[2] useful. It can also act as a USB HID
(Human Interface Device).

 I'm looking for something which has at least 13 digital input pins, which
 might rule out some of the very low-end chips.


The v-usb gives the impression that it will run of most avr's, so you should
have a good amount of choice.

[1]: http://www.obdev.at/products/vusb/index.html
[2]: http://digistump.com/products/1

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Re: [57north-discuss] Microcontroller for simulating a USB HID

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On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 03:45:23PM +0100, Calum Chisholm wrote:
 Hmm... too few I/O pins if I have to do that - the nano only has 14 pins,
 and I need 13 for inputs. I suppose I could add a shift-register, but it's
 all getting a bit hacky by that point.

If you need a lot of input it might be better to consider using a multiplexer
or two. Without any tricks you could do 16 inputs with 3 IO on a controler,
with some magic you could probably do a lot better than that. As a bonus I have
a few in my box,


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Re: [57north-discuss] Programmer required

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On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 10:38:27AM +0100, Noodle wrote:
 I currently have Observium running at work and it is taking ages to poll
 all our devices. The poller is currently written in php.
 Our Cacti reduced it's poll time from over 300s to 20s when we changed from
 its default poller to spine poller which is written in C.

From this I am guessing that Cacti is the problem component.

 There has been discussion on the Observium mailing list about this which
 ended up in a hissy fit and one of the devs telling someone to fuck off
 so I doubt there is going to be much progress on that front, so I thought I
 would see if there was any willing volunteers to take this on as I have
 neither the skill, patience or time at the moment to take this on!

Maybe it is worth asking the Cacti( or Spine) devs on how best to scale Spine
to handle your network.

 So basically I'd like the poller.php re-written in C, (or just something
 better) or if anyone wants to look at the php to see if they can speed it
 up I can pass the files along!

This might be not be possible. The [Spine Info][1] page lays out that it has
been built for high speed polling. Anyone coming to this problem would probably
need a really good picture of the sticking point in doing this.


A few questions:

1. How many hosts?
2. What is the target duration?
3. Have you found any technical papers/articles hitting that goal?

[1]: http://www.cacti.net/spine_info.php

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[57north-discuss] [Request] Stencils of coat of arms and logo

[Tom Jones]

It appears that at least 3 members of the space will be going to [EMF Camp][1]
at the end of August. As I understand other hackerspace will have tents in the
hackerspace village. While I think we should be part of this I don't think any
of us have the time to set something cool for that up. 

Instead I thought it would be cool to fly some flags representing the space. I
would like to make simple two sided flags of our [Coat of Arms][2] and our
[Logo][3]. 

To make these we would need some stencils made up. I am hope less at making
stencils.

Does anyone in the space think they could make these in the next two weeks or
so?

[1]: http://emfcamp.org
[2]: https://57north.co/wiki/File:Shield_Stroke.svg
[3]: https://57north.co/wiki/File:57_North_WLL.svg
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Re: [57north-discuss] [Request] Stencils of coat of arms and logo

[Tom Jones]

On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 03:16:26PM +0100, Edward Watson wrote:
 Cool.  Sadly I'll not make the camp but happy to help with any prep.

Thats a shame the more the merrier.

 Worth mentioning - I have a revised version of the arms graphic that
 incorporates some feedback  (More realistic thicker legs, the rear
 left leg more floor-bound).  

Cool, I look forward to seeing that

I can get this done asap if I prioritise this over the survey.

This is a giant rush, the deadline was so I would have time to do a really bad
job of it if no one volunteered.



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Re: [57north-discuss] Saturday

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[57north-discuss] Hackurday

[Tom Jones]

Hi folks,

I will be in the space tomorrow working on the puzilbox in some fashion. 
I will probably be in from around 1300, all of course depending on when I wake
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Re: [57north-discuss] Chicken

[Tom Jones]

On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 10:33:23PM +0100, Merlin Tail wrote:
 The subject of chicken was raised in the space ... a virtual machine
 management script.  The usage specification is the most amusing I have
 seen,  can you beat it?

First, check your privilege.

Yes, C+= (C plus equality) also known as the feminist programming language.

Unfortunately github didn't enjoy the joke:
https://github.com/FeministSoftwareFoundation/C-plus-Equality


But there is some stuff here:
http://thenullhypotheses.wordpress.com/2013/12/18/a-feminist-programming-language-c/


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Re: [57north-discuss] EMF plans

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On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 10:05:21PM +0100, Robert McWilliam wrote:
 EMF is now less than a week away so I should really have sorted out how
 I'm getting there before now - but haven't.
 
 Who all else is going? What are your travel plans?

On top of yourself I know me and Iain are going. Hibby is talking about coming.

I still don't have travel sorted, thats mostly because the university is in
farce mode.

Right now my travel plans are:

1)  Get a uni hire 
2)  Jump on Hibby's insurance and share the driving
3)  Take the adventuremobile and hope that if it does break down it is on 
the
way home 

 I could possibly steal the crew cab pickup from my Mum that would give 4
 people (or 5 if the ones in the back don't want much space) and a decent
 amount of space in the back for stuff. Would be easier to convince her
 to part with it if we could swap it for an alternative vehicle. 
 
 Alternatively taking the train is actually looking quite tempting (not
 having to worry about traffic can leave at the back of 8 and expect to
 be in Bletchley in ~8 hours, can get up and walk about, less chance of
 getting lost...). If I do go that way anyone driving down that would
 fancy taking a tent (and maybe some other stuff) with them :)

I don't think I could manage the train with the amount of equipment I have to
take. Also I already have a parking ticket and feel the need to use it.

Once we get to EMF I have two and a half plans.

1)  Stream video of talks
2)  Make club mate(adventuremate) and give it away
2.5)Acquire a folding bike, hack it in some way with LED's and wifi. 

I still need to find a folding bike, though I can't say I have been trying very
hard.

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[57north-discuss] Folding Bike

[Tom Jones]

I am looking at picking up a folding bike. Before I brave one of the many on
gumtree I have to wonder if anyone in the space has one in a garage somewhere
they no longer need.

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Re: [57north-discuss] Saturday

[Tom Jones]

On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 12:48:36PM +0100, Carl Anderson wrote:
 Anyone heading to the space today?
 
 I'll be popping along about 3pm and playing with some 7 segment displays.
 

I will be streaming video from emf camp all day. I am at stage C thats day 2
on the schedule.

https://frab.emfcamp.org/en/EMF2014/public/schedule/1

Info on how to view here: http://www.erg.abdn.ac.uk/emf/ 
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Re: [57north-discuss] [57north-announce] Tuesday

[Tom Jones]

On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 04:24:21PM +0100, Ed Watson wrote:
 On Sep 16 09:04, Tom Jones wrote:
  Hello Hackers,
  
  Once again it is Tuesday, 57North's weekly open night. The space is open to
  anyone that wants to come a long and see what we get up to. You can expect
  members to be casually working on projects, any member heading in with a 
  plan
  should relay that on to everyone else.
  
  Tonight Ed will be doing a quick 10 minute on turning test circuits into PCB
  with our homebrew equipment.
 
 What he said. If anyone has a Mac Air/Retina VGA/HDMI adapter - do bring 
 along pls.

The project only takes vga and composite

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Re: [57north-discuss] lighting the space

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On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 11:47:03AM +0100, Robert McWilliam wrote:
 On Tue, Sep 9, 2014, at 11:58 PM, Robert McWilliam wrote:
  I have 10 10W LEDs and a power supply that can drive them. Calum has
  volunteered to source appropriate switches and a box for to put them in
  and we have plans to wire that up and have much light available (the
  same as the 100W LED but from 10 points rather than 1). 
 
 I did some playing with a couple of the LEDs last night. These are eBay
 rated 10W LEDs that actually max out at about 3W, but at that power
 they're a bit unstable and some of the array switches on and off
 annoyingly. Running them at about 1.5W they look to be prefectly stable
 so I'm now targeting that.
 
 Looking at the amount of light they kick out running in that set up I
 still think they're useful.  One advantage of being much lower power
 than originally claimed is that there is no need to worry about the
 heat: I left one on for more than an hour yesterday with only the flat
 thin metal permanent heatsink and it only got to 30°C (I did some
 playing with wrapping it in paper to see if reducing airflow
 possibilities would make a difference - it didn't). 

That sounds good, how are you planning on mounting them? Do you think they
could be mounted in the corner of a ceiling tile? The metal frame that the
tiles sit in could act as a further heat sink.

 Because this was looking like a project that wouldn't involve any coding
 I have tagged on some plans to make a stupidly complex control system.
 The plan now has a switch and relay for each LED so that they can be
 switched by either, wire the relays to an arduino along with some
 sensing of what position the toggle switches are in and then make a web
 page on doorbot that can control the lights. We could also put some
 intelligence in there to have automatic lights... 

While you are devising this you could incorporate the EL wire I put in the door
yesterday? The current set up isn't ideal, it wont be long before someone
leaves it on and we come back to a dead sign.


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Re: [57north-discuss] Super Tuesday

[Tom Jones]

On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 10:16:37AM +0100, Tom Jones wrote:
 Hello Hackers,
 
 Once again it is Tuesday, consulting the historic log 57North hold an open
 night on this fortuitous day. Every Tuesday anyone is welcome to come a long 
 to
 the space and see what we get up to. Members will be working on projects,
 reviewing the past weekends workshop, chewing the fat and other hackerspace
 like activities.
 
 Members should let everyone know what they are up to, for science!!

I will be working on a list of stuff ( and probably putting the list together),
it starts with:

1. Rescure SRF from dead badge
2. Build amp for mics

 --
 
 Tonight is also CryptoNoise[1]. Every second Tuesday we visit a public place
 and use Tor. This week will be our last in the Illicit Still, we are looking
 for a new pub to use that matches our criteria[2]. We will be in the Illicit
 Still from 1700-1900.
 
 [1]:http://cryptonoise.org
 [2]:1. Reasonable Wifi (not the cloud or similar, useful things not 
 blocked)
 2. Wheelchair accessible
 3. Food beyond bar snacks
 4. Locally run (not a super chain)

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Re: [57north-discuss] [57north-announce] Open Tuesday (30/09) - fundraising special!

[Tom Jones]

On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 09:27:44PM +0100, Calum Chisholm wrote:
 I think the rule that items must be taken home again if they don't sell
 should already serve to limit the size/quantity of the donations, but sure
 - if you want to define a limit, then backpack-size sounds sensible for a
 Tuesday.
 
 As for the sales vs. auctions (and everything in-between), it was my
 intention to keep the format pretty simple first time around. Once we have
 a better idea of the level of interest we can certainly look at tweaking it
 for next time. We're all adults though, and if anyone wants to add their
 own restrictions (minimum reserve price, donating a proportion of the sale
 price etc.), then they're certainly free to do so.

That sounds good Calum, I am on board. 

I had to convince Rob today that his discarded FPGA's are interesting to other
people, so don't under estimate what others could be interested in.

 Cheers,
 Calum
 On 27 Sep 2014 16:04, Edward Watson m...@edwardwatson.co.uk wrote:
 
  On 27 September 2014 12:01, Tom Jones jo...@sdf.org wrote:
 
  On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 11:54:50PM +0100, Calum Chisholm wrote:
   In an effort to raise some ever-needed funds for the space, I thought I
   would propose something a little bit different for this week's Open
  Tuesday
   - a tech auction.
  
   The idea is simply that everyone brings along at least one broadly
   tech-related item which they're willing to put up for auction.
 
 
  This sounds like a good idea.
 
 
  Raising funds for the space is a noble cause, but I think it could limit
  it to
  stuff people don't want or don't see any value in
 
 
  I also agree that it should be down to the discretion of the seller
  re donation.
 
  Tuesdays are usually tight on space already, so I suggest people limit
  what they bring in to what will fit in a backpack, otherwise we can shift
  it to a Theme Thursday and use a table spread.
 
  Cheers,
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Re: [57north-discuss] [57north-announce] Rainy Tuesday

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On Tue, Oct 07, 2014 at 11:54:26AM +0100, Edward Watson wrote:
 On 7 October 2014 10:22, Tom Jones jo...@sdf.org wrote:
 
  Hell Hackers,
 
  Once again it is Tuesday, 57North Hacklab's weekly open night. Anyone is
  welcome to come along, see the space and what we get up to.
 
 
 I'll be down to do things - not sure what but things none-the-less!


It turns out that this week is SPACE WEEK! With that in mind I will be to
doing something space related, most probably listening to some of those space
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Re: [57north-discuss] [57north-announce] Exciting Tuesday

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On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 10:56:34AM +0100, richard.buc...@dbil.com wrote:
 
 yes, will be there this evening, maybe a little late
 
 getting a midi fpga spec'ed, working on optical pickup, stepper motor
 drivers and design

Wow you move really fast, I'm looking forward to seeing this.

 can I ask how we find out what people are working on without disturbing
 them or intruding too much ?

Try and catch them in a break? There is a way to do it, or there must be
because I have seen folks doing it wrong. Logically there must be a way to do
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[57north-discuss] Duncan Campbell's Secret Society

[Tom Jones]

Hello Hackers,

I came across a tv series from the late 80's about Secret Societies via
metafilter[1]. All but two of these episodes were aired at the time, but the
lizard people at the time stopped the final two from being shown. Thanks to the
magic of the internet we can now get the episodes from the internet archive
(excepting the last two).

I have captured both the ogg and mp4 links for the 4 available videos. mp4
first with each episode description.

From the site:

In 1987, Duncan produced a six-part documentary for the BBC entitled, Secret
Society. The series disclosed the culture of secrecy in government and lack of
public accountability for its actions. The Thatcher administration had
different ideas. Before the show was broadcast Strathclyde police raided the
BBC's Scottish headquarters and Duncan's home, seizing the tapes. Although
these were later returned, two episodes, 'Secret Cabinet Committees' and
'Zircon' were banned from broadcast in an act of good, old fashioned red-pen
censorship.

Episode 1: The Secret Constitution: Secret Cabinet Committees

The opening episode exposes a rampant culture of secrecy dominant in
Westminster. These clandestine committees and groups yield untold influence on
government policy and yet operate completely independent of public scrutiny or
accountability.

https://archive.org/download/SecretSociety-Part1SecretConstitution/SecretSociety1-SecretConstitution-SecretCabinetCommitteessuppressedBbcSeriesduncanCampbell1987_512kb.mp4
https://archive.org/download/SecretSociety-Part1SecretConstitution/SecretSociety1-SecretConstitution-SecretCabinetCommitteessuppressedBbcSeriesduncanCampbell1987.ogv

Episode 2: In time of crisis

Since 1982, governments in every other NATO country have been preparing for the
eventuality of war. In Britain, these preparations are kept secret. So what
will happen when the balloon goes up?

https://archive.org/download/SecretSocietyPart2WereAllDataNow-SecretDataBanks/SecretSociety2-WereAllDataNow-SecretDataBankssuppressedBbcSeriesduncanCampbell1987_512kb.mp4
https://archive.org/download/SecretSocietyPart2WereAllDataNow-SecretDataBanks/SecretSociety2-WereAllDataNow-SecretDataBankssuppressedBbcSeriesduncanCampbell1987.ogv

Episode 3: A gap in our defences

Bungling defence manufacturers and incompetent military planners have botched
every new radar system that Britain has installed since World War Two. Why? And
can we stop it happening again?

https://archive.org/download/SecretSocietyPart3InTimeOfCrisis-GovernmentEmergencyPowers/SecretSociety3-InTimeOfCrisis-GovernmentEmergencyPowerssuppressedBbcSeriesduncanCampbell1987_512kb.mp4
https://archive.org/download/SecretSocietyPart3InTimeOfCrisis-GovernmentEmergencyPowers/SecretSociety3-InTimeOfCrisis-GovernmentEmergencyPowerssuppressedBbcSeriesduncanCampbell1987.ogv

Episode 4: We're all data now

The Data Protection Act is supposed to protect us from abuse, but it's already
out of date and full of loopholes. So what kind of abuses should we worry
about?

https://archive.org/download/SecretSocietyPart4AssociationOfChiefPoliceOfficers-Acpo/SecretSociety4-AssociationOfChiefPoliceOfficers-AcposuppressedBbcSeriesduncanCampbell1987_512kb.mp4
https://archive.org/download/SecretSocietyPart4AssociationOfChiefPoliceOfficers-Acpo/SecretSociety4-AssociationOfChiefPoliceOfficers-AcposuppressedBbcSeriesduncanCampbell1987.ogv

Episode 5: ACPO

ACPO have been making up their own law and policy. This episode investigates
the Association of Chief Police Officers and how Government policy and actions
are determined in the fields of law and order

https://vimeo.com/48875894

Episode 6: Zircon

The infamous 'Zircon' episodes reveals the existence of a £500m British spy
satellite programme kept secret from Parliament

https://vimeo.com/44948377


[1]:
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[2]:http://www.duncancampbell.org/content/secret-society

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Re: [57north-discuss] Thursday

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On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 03:06:26PM +0100, Noodle wrote:
 Is there a themed Thursday on tonight?

I think themed Thursdays felt abandoned and have left. There does seem to be a
serious hacking night planned though.

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Re: [57north-discuss] Thursday

[Tom Jones]

On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 04:47:07PM +0100, Noodle wrote:
 I'll add to the list of pound land stuff to avoid: blank CDs and DVDs!

Oh, I have used 10 blank CD's from poundland without any trouble. This probably
depends a lot on the quality of the burner.

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Re: [57north-discuss] Tuesday Talkers

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On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 09:29:28AM +, Dave Hibberd wrote:
 Much like Themed Thursdays, talkers on Tuesdays has been quiet this last
 couple of weeks.
 
 Have we got any volunteers to share what they think is cool? It could be
 anything - a good holiday you had, an overview of what's in your toolbox
 and why, an interesting software problem you've solved (I think we've
 had all of these...) or maybe why you think colouring in is the most
 pure form of art.
 
 Any takers?

I am working on something, I should be ready to try it out on the space in 1-3
months. Hopefully by Feb.

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Re: [57north-discuss] Director meeting minutes 25/10/14

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On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 01:08:57PM +, Iain R. Learmonth wrote:
 Hi,
 
 This looks like it was a productive meeting. I have a few comments:
 
 On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 12:18:45PM +, Tom Jones wrote:
   - It is to be noted that ctte-private emails can be seen by server
   admins. Encryption should be used for private messages.
 
 s/by server admins/by anyone in a privileged network position on the path the
 email takes, including but not limited to governments, criminals and server
 admins/

This was more meant to state the fact that in the clear emails aren't secure
ever. The ctte-private lists is the wrong place for secure comms.


 If any director has a GPG key they want signed by me, talk to me and
 I'll probably do it.

Why would that be prescient?

 I've removed myself from the ctte-private list, and have no interest in
 looking at the emails myself, but there are a number of people now with
 access to garioch (root access) and this is probably something to be
 addressed in the near future.

Yeah, this needs tidied up. 

 
   - Rob to investigate adding a door intercom to the street door
 
 Remember that our landlord does not own that door, and Ed will be able to
 tell you how opposed the actual building owner was to the idea. I'm not
 saying don't do it, just you should be aware that it probably won't be easy.

We know that this will be a challenge going in, the strip club have added a
note asking users of the building to not lock the door before 2100 on certain
week days. Maybe they could help us petition the landlord to get a working
intercom setup. As far as I know they have the same landlord as Sheena, so are
closer to the source.

   e Website update (Open Tues, Directors)
 - Dave to place call to the membership to take on administration roles
 for social media
 
 I am happy to provide support via email and in the space for anyone that
 wishes to take over the website management.

Cool, I hope someone will step forward and take this on. If they do there are
probably others that will offer support.

 - Hackhub v2 is currently awaiting proposals and a projects owner from
 the membership
 
 As above.

Ditto.


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Re: [57north-discuss] Electronik Monday

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On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 02:54:49PM +, Iain R. Learmonth wrote:
 Hello Electronics Enthusiasts,
 
 On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 02:40:57PM +, Dave Hibberd wrote:
  Come and play, be productive and enjoy tea with us!
 
 I will be looking at putting together an MPEG stream with multiple video
 feeds to work out how I'm going to feed this DVB project I've been talking
 about but haven't made much progress with so far.

FFServer is built for handling multiple input feeds, it might be worth looking
at what can be done for combining them.

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[57north-discuss] CFA: Newsletter Winter 2014

[Tom Jones]

Hello Hackers,

It is time again for another issue of the 57North Newsletter. Without your help
the newsletter will be weak and pathetic, barely able to manage a round in the
ring. But with your help the newsletter could be a world champion.

This Call For Articles implores you to help by submitting articles for the
newsletter. We want to know about interesting things that have happened in the
space, events we have run and progress on your projects.

The deadline for articles is the 10th of December 2014. Articles should be sent
to myself (jo...@sdf.org) in a plain text format, ASCII art is encouraged.

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Re: [57north-discuss] Tuesday

[Tom Jones]

On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 11:12:05AM +, Tom Jones wrote:
 Hello Hackers,
 
 It is Tuesday, 57North's weekly open night where anyone can come to the space
 and see what we get up to. Usually there is some hacking on projects, drinking
 tea and wondering if tofu is a government conspiracy.

I will be in trying to make an NFC reader play ball and drinking tea. 

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[57north-discuss] Tuesday

[Tom Jones]

Hello Hackers

Again it is Tuesday, 57North's weekly open night. Anyone is welcome to come and
see and space and what we get up to. Normally there is some hacking, drinking
of tea and wondering where all the Arduino's are.

If you are heading in ping -discuss and let everyone else know.

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Re: [57north-discuss] Half-dead multi-function printer any use?

[Tom Jones]

On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 09:22:42AM +, Calum Chisholm wrote:
 Coincidentally, I dropped a couple of similar HP devices off in the space
 last night. They worked last time I used them, though they're a couple of
 years old and would require new ink, so it may not be worth it.
 
 I'm happy to see them re-used or pulled apart for bits - perhaps a good
 time for a teardown Thursday?


That would be a good night, is anyone good at desoldering/recovering
components?

 Calum
 
 On 12 December 2014 at 01:24, Robert McWilliam r...@allmail.net wrote:
 
   On Fri, Dec 12, 2014, at 12:24 AM, Neil Pilgrim wrote:
 
  I've a Brother MFC-425CN printer/copier/fax/scanner that has decided to
  give up the ghost, and wondered if it would be of any use for parts or
  maybe it could be fixed, potentially - though I know printers are cheap.
 
 
  If no one has any ideas for getting it working again printers tend to have
  a few useful motors, gears, belts etc that can be pulled out and put to
  some other use.
 
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[57north-discuss] [market...@scifest.co.uk: Call for makers]

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I think we should head down and be represented at the Make Faire. Does anyone
want to head up organisation?

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Re: [57north-discuss] [57north-announce] Winter Pot Luck Dinner!

[Tom Jones]

On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 02:29:04PM +, Dave Hibberd wrote:
 Hands up who's coming and who's bringing what?
 
 it it going to be me on my own eating vast quantities of pasta?


I will be in, with some sort of food. I don't really have a solid plan yet.

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Re: [57north-discuss] [FS] IBM workstation in need of a good home

[Tom Jones]

On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 02:06:10PM +, Tony Travis wrote:
 On 26/01/15 13:57, Tom Jones wrote:
  [...]
  No idea how OpenBSD would run, I could try if you want.
 
 Sorry, Tom.
 
 Thought you were running BSD on them ;-)

One has FreeBSD and the other had GNU/debian/linux/openbsd/mit/...

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[57north-discuss] Friday

[Tom Jones]

Hi Folks,

I will be in the space this Friday, probably from around 1800. I am planning to
watch a documentary from around 2000, so if you are coming to join expect me to
ssshh any loud activities for about two hours.

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Re: [57north-discuss] Friday

[Tom Jones]

Sometimes I think about these emails being read out in a court room.

On Wed, Feb 04, 2015 at 08:16:53PM +, Carl Anderson wrote:
 
 What's the documentary?

Considering the recent weather it is about a man, snowed in.

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[57north-discuss] Beer money

[Tom Jones]

Hi,

Carl claims there is about 70GBP in the beer money jar. Does anyone object to
me buying a case of club mate for the space? These would be sold at a slight
profit so we can keep the addiction going.

24 Bottles is around 35GBP with shipping. 

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Re: [57north-discuss] [57north-announce] Tuesday

[Tom Jones]

I will be in, looking at packet captures and playing with some of my
OpenWRT boxes.

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Re: [57north-discuss] Getting Rid of Creepy Cam

[Tom Jones]

On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 04:09:56PM +, Edward Watson wrote:
 On 14 Jan 2015 15:41, Iain R. Learmonth i...@fsfe.org wrote:
   If anyone has a reason that they would like to keep the webcam
  in the space, this should be discussed here so that we can reach an
  arrangement that works for everyone.
 
 Happy for it to go in current form.
 
 Maybe plan to retain 'something' in the space for quick-use
 streaming/recording of nominated future talks? I know I've missed some.
 
 This should be packed up when not in use and needs audio capture and an
 agreed dissemination platform o/c.

I think talks are a different matter, recording talks is a good idea and you
only really want the speaker in frame.

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Re: [57north-discuss] Getting Rid of Creepy Cam

[Tom Jones]

On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 05:09:46PM +, Tony Travis wrote:
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 On 14/01/15 15:41, Iain R. Learmonth wrote:
  [...] I believe this to be a strong enough reason to remove the
  webcam from the hackerspace. If anyone has a reason that they would
  like to keep the webcam in the space, this should be discussed here
  so that we can reach an arrangement that works for everyone.
 
 Hi, Iain.
 
 I think it might actually be useful to have a webcam available, for
 experimenting with, but not being used as a 24h surveillance camera!
 
 It seems a bit drastic to remove it from the Space. Could we not just
 use it more appropriately as and when required?
 
 For example, streaming Space talks live for people who are not there?

I don't have a problem with having a camera in the space for talks and specific
usage. In fact Hibby has a high quality camera that is going to be used just
for that.

I have a problem with a camera streaming members while they are in the space no
matter what.

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[57north-discuss] RS Order

[Tom Jones]

Hello Hackers,

Does anyone want anything from RS? 

I am plannig to put an order in on Friday

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Re: [57north-discuss] SpaceFriday

[Tom Jones]

On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 10:00:59AM +, Dave Hibberd wrote:
 Howdy y'all, Iit's Friday, Friday - Gotta get down on Friday!
 
 I'm planning on being in the space tonight to do non radio things and
 stuff. I'm intending to make some headway on webrtc, do a little bit of
 debian and a little bit of learning. I'll have music on, I might
 download the latest offering from Louis CK[1] and watch it. I may well
 drink me some gin also.
 
 You are, of course, more than welcome to come play with whatever it is
 turns you on at the moment!

I too will be in, doing non radio stuff and getting really anal about logic.

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Re: [57north-discuss] [FS] IBM workstation in need of a good home

[Tom Jones]

On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 05:43:39PM +, Calum Chisholm wrote:
 As there are still no takers for the workstation, I've left it in the space
 for the time being (it's to the right of the safe). If nobody takes a fancy
 to it over the next week, I'll take it away again next Tuesday and junk it.

If no one else speaks up before Thursday, I will take it on Thursday night and
make a donation to the space. 

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Re: [57north-discuss] Counter Terrorism Bill Draft Communications Data Bill

[Tom Jones]

On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 10:43:18AM +, Doc Ocassi wrote:
 Hello All.
 
 A Heads-up to all of you who are not on the Open Rights Group Maillist.
 
 A thrown out Bill has been amended into the current Counter Terror Bill
 currently passing a late stage of review in the house of lords, you can
 find more info here:
 https://www.openrightsgroup.org/ourwork/reports/abuse-of-parliamentary-procedure
 https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/01/britons-you-have-72-hours-stop-snoopers-charter
 
 If you are at all interested and have contacts get writing/phoning, I
 have, and I have to work all weekend.

EFF have made it easy to contact the Lords, if reading a page of text is too
difficult for you I have seperated out the 'action' links from the EFF page.

https://www.writetothem.com/lords
https://act.eff.org/action/tell-britain-s-lords-don-t-let-the-snooper-s-charter-sneak-past-you

It looks like writetothem is down right now, I am sure it will be back up this
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Re: [57north-discuss] New Semantic MediaWiki for 57North

[Tom Jones]

On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 10:50:37AM +, Dave Hibberd wrote:
 Personally, I think the idea behind hackr is a great - a free shell for
 all members alongside webspace and databases. It gives space members
 somewhere safe to experiment and learn about *nix based OSes, websites
 and the world of technology beyond what they've experienced. I started
 off on a similar system, silenceisdefeat.com, and that's a large part of
 what's become my digital ideology and passions. 

I had my start in a similar way, using the SDF public access unix machine.

 If this was a perk of membership to the space, alongside other serives
 (xmpp? email?)  that would be a huge value add for some people and
 potentially help introduce new people to new things, or just give them
 the space to play, learn and understand some of the things that others
 are passionate about.

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Re: [57north-discuss] Monday Madness

[Tom Jones]

On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 09:51:47AM +, Robert McWilliam wrote:
 On Mon, Jan 12, 2015, at 11:30 PM, Iain R. Learmonth wrote:
  On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 07:13:39PM +, Andy Gaskell wrote:
  Monitoring systems like public irc, public mailing list and a webcam :)
  
  The webcam is shortly disappearing, so that should fix that one.
 
 Really? When was that decided?

When was it decided it was a good idea? I for one will be much happier with
only unknown cameras looking at me.


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Re: [57north-discuss] [57north-announce] Tuesday

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I will be in playing with ridiculous laptop and probably the raspberry pi.

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[57north-discuss] [jo...@sdf.org: Re: TLS Certificates for official 57North services]

[Tom Jones]

On Wed, Jan 07, 2015 at 09:28:03PM +, Andy Gaskell wrote:
 Hiya
 
 I think issue may just be solved by the new semantic wiki.  The new wiki
 looks great, and we'd discussed using this as our main website and CMS.  I
 think this will be good as it'll mean we don't have duplicated info and
 systems.  I'll happily white the MediaWiki skin, I can get stuck in and do
 that next couple of week.  We can kind of make it look 'cool', and still be
 a wiki I think.  Reason I mention that here is it perhaps solves this
 perceived issue, as the wiki is accessible via http and https.

Cool this sounds like a useful solution to two of our problems. We get rid of
the unmaintained site and we won't need a wildcard ssl. There isn't anything
else in our infrastructure that needs to be user facing. The quotesdb is
probably a bad idea.

Would someone like to volunteer to waste money on a scam cert for the three
months until the EFF positivity kicks in?

 I would probably use MediaWiki Bootstrapskin (
 http://www.mediawikibootstrapskin.co.uk/index.php?title=Main_Page ) as a
 starting point, and do a bit of customising from there.

I would prefer it to look like a static text file, I imagine I am in the
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Re: [57north-discuss] [57north-announce] Libre Tuesday

[Tom Jones]

On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 12:08:03PM +, Carl Anderson wrote:
 On 17/03/15 09:55, Tom Jones wrote:
  If you are planning on coming in you should reply to this email on -discuss.
  This lets everyone gauge how many people will be in and gives you a chance 
  to
  talk about what you are doing.
 
 I'll be along to finish a temperature sensor, make rrd's for it and try
 to cobble together a webpage to display it all on.

What are you planning to use to put it all together? I have been think about
add temperature and temp and humidity sensors to one of the machines in my
flat. I have sensors, but haven't really thought about how I will get the data
onto a webpage.

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[57north-discuss] This Weekend (6th of March)

[Tom Jones]

Hello Hackers,

Is anyone planning to head to the space tonight(Friday), Saturday or Sunday?

If you are coming in could you specify a rough time you will be in the space
and roughly how long for.

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Re: [57north-discuss] Radio Adventures

[Tom Jones]

On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 01:54:24PM +, Dave Hibberd wrote:
 Oh man, I can bring my stove with actual gas this time and maybe boil
 water. Excellent idea!

You know we are going to be in a village with people, shops and pubs right?

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Re: [57north-discuss] Music tonight!

[Tom Jones]

On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 11:57:17AM +, Dave Hibberd wrote:
 Happy Thursday everyone!
 
 It's time of the oft rumoured, rarely discussed return of
 music/noisenight!
 
 I'm going to be in looking tired and run down, considering the finer
 points of midi and microcontrollers from 730/8ish onwards.
 
 If you want to come in and make a racket, now's your chance - it doesn't
 have to be musical or tuneful. I probably won't be...
 
 Ping a message if you plan to come in and make annoying beeps and/or
 boops!

I will be in making machine noises, if you like music it might be best to stay
away. 

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Re: [57north-discuss] [57north-announce] Tuesday

[Tom Jones]

On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 12:42:04PM +0100, Edward Watson wrote:
 On 31 March 2015 at 10:05, Tom Jones jo...@sdf.org wrote:
 
  If you are heading in tonight please reply to this email on -discuss. It is
  your weekly chance to let everyone know about the cool projects that you
  are
  working on.
 
 
 I'll be in to hack my spagbol-leftovers 

I will also be hacking leftovers, but mine are some sort of beef curry. I would
prefer if people did not offer patches for my dinner.


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[57north-discuss] This Weekend

[Tom Jones]

Hello Hackers,

Is anyone planning on heading in to the space tonight(Friday), Saturday or
Sunday? 

If you are planning to come in, could you give the time and an estimation of
how long you will be in.

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Re: [57north-discuss] [57north-announce] March Tuesday

[Tom Jones]

On Tue, Mar 03, 2015 at 09:28:48AM +, Dave Hibberd wrote:
 I'll be in, focussing on Infobeamer 2: Infobeamer Returns, talking about
 this weekend's failed radio experiments, drinking herbal tea and
 pondering upon the universe's harder questions:
 
 - Just why does a banjo sound so fantastic

The magical sound of poverty.

 and
 
 - If laboratoried didn't have raised benches, would they be called
   sitting waves?

The scientists still would have stood up in annoyance at the bloody standing
wave.

I will be in porting libraries to work places that aren't Linux(who knew those
existed).

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Re: [57north-discuss] Door locked

[Tom Jones]

On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 04:20:00PM +0100, Edward Watson wrote:
 Afternoon people.
 
 The stairwell door to the space entrance vestibule is locked. Does anyone
 have to key for it?

Interesting, I remember giving you one. Maybe it is in your box?

I think I have one, if I do Iain has one too. If I don't I have no idea.

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Re: [57north-discuss] Second Thursday Night Cycle

[Tom Jones]

This has to be cancelled as the AGM is being held tonight.

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Re: [57north-discuss] [57north-announce] Aprils Tuesday

[Tom Jones]

On Tue, Apr 07, 2015 at 12:28:53PM +0100, Carl Anderson wrote:
 Hey folks,
 
 On 07/04/15 09:46, Tom Jones wrote:
  If you are heading in please reply to this email. This is your weekly 
  chance to
  show off the awesome projects that you are working on, ask for help or just
  talk about your life.
 
 I'll be in as usual, have a wifi jammer that I finished the other day
 that I can show off to those who are interested.
 

Now, that is certainly illegal. I am interesting in how, what and why.


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[57north-discuss] Thursday Night Cycle

[Tom Jones]

Hello Hackers,

There was some talk yesterday about going on a Thursday Night cycle this week.
It was suggested that we cycle a long the Old Dee Side Railway[0]. I propose
that we set off from Duthie Park and cycle to approximately Cults and back.

I think we should aim to meet at 1800 on Thursday the 9th of April 2015 where
Duthie Park meets the start of the old railway line trail[1]. The journey will
probably be around an hour, I plan to play with a portable vhf radio(bicycle
mobile) and some gps wardriving.

This is of course weather depending, we will probably cancel if it gets
terribly Scottish.

If you are interested in coming a long, could you please reply to this email.
This way we can gauge if everyone has arrived.

[0]: http://www.cyclegrampian.co.uk/trail/deeside.html
[1]: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/57.13234/-2.10383

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Re: [57north-discuss] [57north-announce] Open Tuesday

[Tom Jones]

On Tue, Jun 02, 2015 at 09:55:10AM +0100, Edward Watson wrote:
 On 2 June 2015 at 09:01, Tom Jones jo...@sdf.org wrote:
 
  If you are planning to come down tonight, fire off an email to the list
  and let
  everyone else know.
 
 
 I'll be down to further calibrate the space 3D printer, drink mate and help
 with the server reallocation.

I will be in swearing at computers of all types, I could share the hatred with
the 3d printer if you wish.

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Re: [57north-discuss] [57north-announce] Tuesday

[Tom Jones]

On Tue, Jun 09, 2015 at 04:26:21PM +0100, Carl Anderson wrote:
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 Does anyone know if we have a micro SD card adapter at the space? Or would 
 someone have one which they could lend me for the evening?
 Cheers!
 

I will have a couple

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Re: [57north-discuss] [57north-announce] Open Tuesday

[Tom Jones]

On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 05:20:31PM +0100, Neil Pilgrim wrote:
 Kate and I hope to be along tonight, and we're actually in town already -
 how early might anyone else be there?

Open now

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Re: [57north-discuss] [57north-announce] Open Tuesday

[Tom Jones]

On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 11:58:45AM +0100, Carl Anderson wrote:
 On 16/06/2015 11:28, Tom Jones wrote:
  If you are planning to come down reply to this email and let everyone know.
  
 
 Hey folks,
 I'll be down this evening, possibly around 5pm. I might have to subject
 you all to a talk bout IPv6 which I have to give soon, aimed at Higher
 level students with no knowledge of networking and would welcome some
 feedback on content etc. (don't worry - it's only supposed to be 10 mins
 long!)

Sounds good!

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[57north-discuss] Microcontroller Monday

[Tom Jones]

Hello Hackers,

I am losing sleep over a bug in a circuit, so I will be in the space tonight
trying to debug something. I will probably be in from about 1900.

If you are planning to join me fire off a reply so I can expect company

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Re: [57north-discuss] Beer festival

[Tom Jones]

On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 10:16:14PM +0100, Robert McWilliam wrote:
 The beer festival is coming up soon: 4-6th June.
 http://aberdeencamra.org.uk/festival
 
 Looks like the 5th will be the only day I can make this year. Anybody
 else going then (or other days)?

Charlene and I are on board for the 5th. There might some more of us too.

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[57north-discuss] Open Tuesday

[Tom Jones]

Hello Hackers,

It is Tuesday, again. Some of us are heading to the space and opening up the
place to anyone that wants to come a long. Perfect time to see what we get up
to.

If you are coming down fire off a reply to this email. If you are doing
something cool you can let us know, I am sure there are people on this list
eager to hear about the cool things we do.
 
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Re: [57north-discuss] [57north-announce] Open Tuesday

[Tom Jones]

On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 11:13:54AM +0100, Robert McWilliam wrote:
 On Tue, Jul 14, 2015, at 10:00, Tom Jones wrote:
  If you are planning to head in fire off a reply to this and let the
  other occupants of the list know.

I too will be in, I might do some soldering. If that works I will be making
noises into a mic attached to a scope.

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Re: [57north-discuss] Twitter/facebook/g+ links

[Tom Jones]

On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 04:47:17PM +0100, Robert McWilliam wrote:
 The 57N site currently has  a scary red popup on the google+ link. 
 
 This picks on G+ and not twitter or facebook because in EFFs 2013 Who
 has your back?scorecard thing[1] google+ didn't get a full set of
 stars. But this is out of date. All three got a full set of stars in the
 2014 report[2], and then EFF changed what the stars are for this year
 and none of the three get a full set anymore[3]. 
 
 I don't like the scary popup, and think the EFF scorecards over simplify
 a complex issue (though they can be useful for starting a discussion, I
 can't see a good way to have that discussion with people following links
 on our site). I'd like to remove the popup from the G+ link but thought
 I'd best ask before just doing it...

If you were scared then the popups did their job.

I think we should just remove the facebook and g+ links, we don't manage those 
accounts at all.

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Re: [57north-discuss] [57north-announce] Chip Tuesday

[Tom Jones]

On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 10:56:24AM +0100, Carl Anderson wrote:
 On 21 July 2015 at 09:59, Tom Jones jo...@sdf.org wrote:
 
  block the penetrating sun.
 
  Are you sure this is for the Aberdeen hackspace??!

Have you been outside today?

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Re: [57north-discuss] [57north-announce] Chip Tuesday

[Tom Jones]

On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 10:29:27AM +0100, Tony Travis wrote:
 On 21/07/15 09:59, Tom Jones wrote:
  [...]
  If you could to reply this email and let others know that you are coming in 
  to
  the space and what you are doing, that would be excellent.
 
 Hi, Tom.
 
 I'll be coming along to make a second attempt at interesting people in
 my shiny new Meizu MX4 Ubuntu Edition mobile phone:
 
   http://www.meizu.com/en/ubuntu/features.html
 
 I'm interested in exploring its USB OTG capabilities, but I've gone and
 forgotten to being my OTG cable with me!
 
 Can anyone lend me an OTG cable tonight?

I have loads of those things, just for this sort of situation.

Have you seen this?
https://sturmflut.github.io/ubuntu/touch/2015/05/07/hacking-ubuntu-touch-index/

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Re: [57north-discuss] Website login

[Tom Jones]

On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 05:56:04PM +0100, Carl Anderson wrote:
 Is the website (https://57north.co.uk/hub) login broken?


hackerdeen.org/hub works

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Re: [57north-discuss] [57north-announce] Tuesday Gladness

[Tom Jones]

On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 03:11:54PM +, Edward Watson wrote:
> On 10 November 2015 at 13:43, Doc Ocassi  wrote:
> > What's up? What's down? What's coming around?
> 
> I'll be playing with pyBrain on my new VPS, whilst 3d printing stuff
> (assuming nobody else is using the Prusa).

Does that mean the new printer has been finished?

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Re: [57north-discuss] [57north-announce] Tuesday!

[Tom Jones]

On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 12:54:31PM +, Doc Ocassi wrote:
> Hello Everyone.
> 
> It is Tuesday, you hear that, Tuesday,
> 
> You Know what to do.

Wooo!

Wait, what do I put here?

Tomorrow being the third Wednesday of the month also means that it is
TechMeetUp. In fact it is the last TechMeetUp of the year!

Tomorrow we are running lightning talks, lightning talks are not given
by lightning(that would be thunder), but are 5 minute opportunites where
any one can jump up and ramble for 5 minutes. Only 5 minutes mind you,
there will be boos if you go over.

Tonight, I will be creating slides for my talk tomorrow(is a sekret)
and when that is boring I will be trying to get a pi to speak to one of
those cctv monitors.

Does anyone know if we have composite cables in the space?

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Re: [57north-discuss] [57north-announce] Tuesday open evening

[Tom Jones]

On Tue, Nov 03, 2015 at 12:45:48PM +, Robert McWilliam wrote:
> I am reliably informed that today is Tuesday. That means that we have
> an open evening this evening.
> 
> All are welcome to come and hack at stuff (or just drink their
> beverage of choice and have a chat). We're usually open by 19:00, the
> space status should update to confirm that.
> 
> If you'll be along with something in mind to do: let us know with a
> reply to -discuss.

I will be in.

I will be using the space desktop to try and use openscad, that
probably means wrestling with Ed for access. 

I will also be asking Ed about further plot holes in Leviathan Wakes that
came to me in a dream.

It appears that we have finally started a technical book club, if anyone
is interested bug me tonight and I will get around to posting on the
bbs.

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