Thanks for checking Jamie.
The other thing I don't have any feedback on is the proxy dll:
http://accessibility.linuxfoundation.org/a11yspecs/ia2/proxy-dll/
Hopefully someone could verify that at some point.
Pete
On 7/19/13 1:41 AM, James Teh wrote:
On 16/07/2013 11:09 PM, Pete Brunet wrote:
On 16/07/2013 11:09 PM, Pete Brunet wrote:
The site is now updated:
http://accessibility.linuxfoundation.org/a11yspecs/ia2/
Hopefully buildapi.sh and ia2_api_all.idl are OK now.
The idl is now correct. Thanks!
Jamie
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The site is now updated:
http://accessibility.linuxfoundation.org/a11yspecs/ia2/
Hopefully buildapi.sh and ia2_api_all.idl are OK now.
Pete
On 7/9/13 7:52 AM, Alexander Surkov wrote:
We don't use merged IDL. I believe we build header files from IDLs.
Alex.
On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 3:23 AM,
On 9/07/2013 5:13 PM, James Teh wrote:
Now, the
IDL includes Accessible2.idl before AccessibleRelation.idl, which breaks
because IAccessible2 depends on IAccessibleRelation.
Alex: I'm curious as to why you didn't hit this issue at Mozilla. Does
Mozilla use the official merged IDL or do you
Thanks for finding this Jamie, I will submit to the LF help desk for
replacement. -Pete
On 7/9/13 2:13 AM, James Teh wrote:
On 22/04/2013 4:28 PM, James Teh wrote:
There is a major problem with the merged IDL. It does not include the
IAccessibleTable.idl file.
This is now fixed, but
Thank you for catching that Jamie.
On 4/21/13 6:18 PM, James Teh wrote:
On 16/04/2013 7:15 AM, Pete Brunet wrote:
The new version is now on the LF site at
http://accessibility.linuxfoundation.org/a11yspecs/ia2/.
This page:
On 4/26/13 12:43 PM, Pete Brunet wrote:
Thanks Jamie, I've updated buildapi.sh.
but I haven't pushed it yet. I'll wait until my conversation with Alex
is done.
On 4/22/13 1:28 AM, James Teh wrote:
Hi Pete,
On 16/04/2013 7:15 AM, Pete Brunet wrote:
The new version is now on the LF site at
Hi Pete,
On 16/04/2013 7:15 AM, Pete Brunet wrote:
The new version is now on the LF site at
http://accessibility.linuxfoundation.org/a11yspecs/ia2/.
There is a major problem with the merged IDL. It does not include the
IAccessibleTable.idl file. It seems this was removed from buildapi.sh in
On 16/04/2013 7:15 AM, Pete Brunet wrote:
The new version is now on the LF site at
http://accessibility.linuxfoundation.org/a11yspecs/ia2/.
This page:
http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/accessibility/iaccessible2
still says 1.2.1, even though the links point to 1.3.
Jamie
The new version is now on the LF site at
http://accessibility.linuxfoundation.org/a11yspecs/ia2/. I found a
couple of minor errors which I will fix soon. The proxy DLL hasn't been
verified yet.
Pete
On 4/9/13 10:32 AM, Pete Brunet wrote:
I opened a ticket with the LF admins to archive the
Great news! Pete and all, thank you for the work!
Thank you.
Alex.
On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 6:15 AM, Pete Brunet p...@a11ysoft.com wrote:
The new version is now on the LF site at
http://accessibility.linuxfoundation.org/a11yspecs/ia2/. I found a
couple of minor errors which I will fix soon.
I opened a ticket with the LF admins to archive the 1.2.1 files and add
the 1.3 files. I hope someone can verify the new IA2 proxy. For now
it's at:
http://a11ysoft.com/ia2/proxy-dll/
Pete
On 3/15/13 10:58 AM, Alexander Surkov wrote:
Hopefully Jamie could help with that. I'd be great to have
On 3/14/13 11:03 PM, Alexander Surkov wrote:
I'm fine with that. I would say As a performant alternative or
something similar.
Btw, Pete, what is a plan about releasing?
I can have these files moved onto the Linux Foundation site at any point
now (after I make the fix we are talking about).
Hopefully Jamie could help with that. I'd be great to have it early Q2.
Alex.
On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 12:43 AM, Pete Brunet p...@a11ysoft.com wrote:
On 3/14/13 11:03 PM, Alexander Surkov wrote:
I'm fine with that. I would say As a performant alternative or
something similar.
Btw, Pete,
Hi, Pete.
1) It makes sense to not deprecate IAccessible2::relations since it
can be useful for AT tools. In this case maxRelations argument is not
really needed and it can be marked as ignored but it's not big deal.
Is there a reason to not deprecate it, i.e. do we need implementers to
On 3/14/13 9:30 PM, Alexander Surkov wrote:
Hi, Pete.
1) It makes sense to not deprecate IAccessible2::relations since it
can be useful for AT tools. In this case maxRelations argument is not
really needed and it can be marked as ignored but it's not big deal.
Is there a reason to not
I'm fine with that. I would say As a performant alternative or
something similar.
Btw, Pete, what is a plan about releasing?
Alex.
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Pete Brunet p...@a11ysoft.com wrote:
On 3/14/13 9:30 PM, Alexander Surkov wrote:
Hi, Pete.
1) It makes sense to not
Please review the following. This should be the final unless updates
are needed.
- The change log: http://a11ysoft.com/ia2/changelog.txt
- IA2 spec: http://a11ysoft.com/ia2/docs/html/
- The individual IDL files: http://a11ysoft.com/ia2/api/
or the full IDL file:
Hi, Pete. More feedback.
1) It makes sense to not deprecate IAccessible2::relations since it
can be useful for AT tools. In this case maxRelations argument is not
really needed and it can be marked as ignored but it's not big deal.
2) IAccessible2_2::accessibleWithCaret: Returns the hypertext
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Date: 02/04/2013 11:14 PM
Subject:Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IA2 1.3 ready for review
Sent by:accessibility-ia2-boun...@lists.linuxfoundation.org
On 2/4/13 5:20 PM, Richard Schwerdtfeger wrote:
Partially.
So, cut, copy copy selected text to the clipboard. The details
On 2/4/13 11:13 PM, Pete Brunet wrote:
On 2/4/13 5:20 PM, Richard Schwerdtfeger wrote:
Partially.
So, cut, copy copy selected text to the clipboard. The details are
handled by the rouser. Paste pasts to selected text or the insertion
point (collapsed selection). What is the concern about
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From: Pete Brunet p...@a11ysoft.com
To: Richard Schwerdtfeger/Austin/IBM@IBMUS,
Cc: IAccessible2 mailing list
accessibility-ia2@lists.linuxfoundation.org
Date: 02/04/2013 11:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IA2 1.3 ready for review
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On 10/10/12 2:07 AM, Alexander Surkov wrote:
Hi, Jamie. Answering inline.
5) Document that copyText, cutText, and pasteText are deprecated.
Can you please refresh me on it? The reason specified is This
function is available via the application's GUI. but it seems it can
be applied to the
On 2/4/13 5:13 PM, Pete Brunet wrote:
Hi Alex, I am going to try to get some momentum going on this again...
On 9/23/12 11:52 PM, Alexander Surkov wrote:
Hi, Pete. Here's my two cents.
1) It makes sense to allow IAccessible2_2::attribute to take sequence
of attribute names like
On 10/10/12 1:29 AM, James Teh wrote:
Hi all,
Sorry for taking so long. Here is my feedback:
Accessible2.idl:
IAccessible2 has been removed from the Interfaces section. It should
still be included. (I see Pete has already acknowledged this.)
I'm not sure it makes sense to say the older
accessibility-ia2@lists.linuxfoundation.org
Date: 02/04/2013 07:49 PM
Subject:Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IA2 1.3 ready for review
Sent by:accessibility-ia2-boun...@lists.linuxfoundation.org
On 10/10/12 2:07 AM, Alexander Surkov wrote:
Hi, Jamie. Answering inline
Hi, Pete. It looks good. Perhaps I'd change In some cases an
application's accessible tree is such that an object can have a
logical parent which is not its parent in the tree of accessibles. to
... such that objects can be in a logical parent-child relationship
which is different from hierarchy
] IA2 1.3 ready for review
Sent by:accessibility-ia2-boun...@lists.linuxfoundation.org
On 2/4/13 8:16 PM, Alexander Surkov wrote:
Hi, Pete. Thank you for getting back on this. Answering inline.
1) It makes sense to allow IAccessible2_2::attribute to take
On 2/4/13 8:52 PM, Alexander Surkov wrote:
Hi, Pete. It looks good. Perhaps I'd change In some cases an
application's accessible tree is such that an object can have a
logical parent which is not its parent in the tree of accessibles. to
... such that objects can be in a logical parent-child
Surkov surkov.alexan...@gmail.com
Date: 02/04/2013 09:15 PM
Subject:Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IA2 1.3 ready for review
On 2/4/13 9:03 PM, Richard Schwerdtfeger wrote:
Pete,
Is there a plan to update AccProbe for the new interfaces?
Hi Rich, AccProbe should
Hi Rich, At this point, since we couldn't find consensus and since this
release was supposed to done last Fall and since I was informed that
noone has implemented or shown a need for the three clipboard
operations, I'm inclined to not hold up the release any further and
handle this in a follow-on
Did you check with Nuance? What appends if replacetext is removed?
Even if Nuance has not implemented it for say FF has someone approached them?
We can' t just be supporting vision impairments.
Sent from my iPad
On Feb 4, 2013, at 9:35 PM, Pete Brunet p...@a11ysoft.com wrote:
Hi Rich, At
Whe are relations deprecated? They are used extensively in both FF, Chrome, and
Symphony.
Rich
Sent from my iPad
On Feb 4, 2013, at 8:32 PM, Pete Brunet p...@a11ysoft.com wrote:
On 10/10/12 1:29 AM, James Teh wrote:
Hi all,
Sorry for taking so long. Here is my feedback:
On 2/4/13 4:56 PM, Richard Schwerdtfeger wrote:
Did you check with Nuance? What appends if replacetext is removed?
If you have a contact at Nuance please ask them to join the list.
Only the clipboard methods are deprecated, which bascially means don't
use the cut/copy/paste methods until the
It appears the relations were moved to the new ia22 interface. Is that why you
are deprecating the relations interface?
Sent from my iPad
On Feb 4, 2013, at 10:15 PM, Richard Schwerdtfeger sch...@us.ibm.com wrote:
Whe are relations deprecated? They are used extensively in both FF, Chrome,
Partially.
So, cut, copy copy selected text to the clipboard. The details are handled by
the rouser. Paste pasts to selected text or the insertion point (collapsed
selection). What is the concern about clipboard functionality?
Rich
Sent from my iPad
On Feb 4, 2013, at 10:18 PM, Pete Brunet
The methods are replaced with IAccessible2_2::relationTargetsOfType.
One of today's edits was to add text to the doxygen commentary pointing
this out.
Pete
On 2/4/13 5:14 PM, Richard Schwerdtfeger wrote:
It appears the relations were moved to the new ia22 interface. Is that
why you are
On 2/4/13 5:20 PM, Richard Schwerdtfeger wrote:
Partially.
So, cut, copy copy selected text to the clipboard. The details are
handled by the rouser. Paste pasts to selected text or the insertion
point (collapsed selection). What is the concern about clipboard
functionality?
I'll have to dig
Hi all,
Sorry for taking so long. Here is my feedback:
Accessible2.idl:
IAccessible2 has been removed from the Interfaces section. It should
still be included. (I see Pete has already acknowledged this.)
I'm not sure it makes sense to say the older interfaces (except
IAccessibleTable, which
Hi, Jamie. Answering inline.
5) Document that copyText, cutText, and pasteText are deprecated.
Can you please refresh me on it? The reason specified is This
function is available via the application's GUI. but it seems it can
be applied to the whole IAccessibleEditableText interface.
I
On 10/10/2012 5:07 PM, Alexander Surkov wrote:
It seems [introducing actions for editable text operations] doesn't answer why
we can't turn out the whole
IAccessibleEditableText interface into actions.
I agree and tend to think this is the way forward.
Btw, I would prefer doAction taking a
Btw, I would prefer doAction taking a BSTR rather than negative
constant. Otherwise we should standardize all possible actions and we
don't leave a room for the server to introduce non-standard actions.
This requires a new method (and thus a new interface), which was the main
reason for
On 10/10/2012 5:31 PM, Alexander Surkov wrote:
Using strings [for IAccessibleAction]
is a touch more expensive, but it's negligible and more extensible.
we can go with VARIANT as we did for object attributes.
I'm not sure this makes sense. Do you mean standard constants would be
numeric and
we can go with VARIANT as we did for object attributes.
I'm not sure this makes sense. Do you mean standard constants would be
numeric and custom ones would be strings?
yes
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 4:41 PM, James Teh ja...@nvaccess.org wrote:
On 10/10/2012 5:31 PM, Alexander Surkov wrote:
I do intend to review this thoroughly. However, it may be a few days
before I can get to it.
Jamie
On 21/09/2012 12:22 PM, Pete Brunet wrote:
I finished up the IA2 1.3 work over the weekend but due to some changes
on the LF web site am unable to post it there. I've provided it at
Copy that. I just got back from vacation and am slammed.
Rich
Rich Schwerdtfeger
From: James Teh ja...@nvaccess.org
To: IAccessible2 mailing list
accessibility-ia2@lists.linuxfoundation.org,
Date: 09/25/2012 02:14 AM
Subject:Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IA2 1.3 ready
Congratulations all! accessibleWithCaret, thank you very much. Keep up
the great work.
Best,
Arnstein
On 21.09.2012 04:22, Pete Brunet wrote:
I finished up the IA2 1.3 work over the weekend but due to some
changes on the LF web site am unable to post it there. I've provided
it at
I finished up the IA2 1.3 work over the weekend but due to some changes
on the LF web site am unable to post it there. I've provided it at
a11ysoft.com. Please review it. I won't get to the object attributes
until later (to add explicit-name).
documentation: http://a11ysoft.com/ia2/docs/html
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