Re: [AI] staff room Happy Teachers Day

2009-09-06 Thread Rakesh Kumar Gupta
Yes! we have separate Staff Room officially only for VH teachers, although at present, unofficially, two nearest normal colleagues are also sitting with us. Actually, in my school, there are several alternate staff rooms have also been running in sports room, yoga room, examination room, three

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2009-09-06 Thread Rakesh Kumar Gupta
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Re: [AI] staff room Happy Teachers Day

2009-09-06 Thread Shyam M. Sayanekar
Hi Kanchan, I fully agree with you. I have been teaching in a college for the last thirty years and my lectures are spread over all the three buildings of the college, and many times, my one lecture is on the third floor of one building and the next lecture is on the third floor of another

Re: [AI] Fwd: Fw: University for the Disabled, the first university of its kind

2009-09-06 Thread George Abraham
Could not agree with you more. This is a reflection of a charity mindset. I am sure , it is this mindset that we are all striving to break free of. - Original Message - From: Vetrivel Adhimoolam vadhimoo...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Saturday, September 05,

Re: [AI] Fwd: Fw: University for the Disabled, the first university of its kind

2009-09-06 Thread moiz tundawala
Dear Vetri and George sir, I look at it slightly differently. A university which especially caters to persons with disabilities offers a unique opportunity to get us all on a common platform. Using the rights language may not be desirable all the time, but the one big problem plaguing the

Re: [AI] staff room Happy Teachers Day

2009-09-06 Thread Rakesh Kumar Gupta
There are some great difference between colleges and Govt schools specially in Delhi and also some in between govt schools and my school. I am not viewing so same for defending my personal point, it is based on my personal working experience of about 20 years in different 12 or 13 Govt schools,

Re: [AI] Fwd: Fw: University for the Disabled, the first university of its kind

2009-09-06 Thread Subramani L
Hay: Being in one campus is not the same as being in one platform. The versity may be a great idea no doubt, but it would probably become easier for the mainstream to shove the PWDs into such special university whenever they feel admitting them would be a serious inconvenience. For example, this

Re: [AI] Fwd: Fw: University for the Disabled, the first university of its kind

2009-09-06 Thread Subramani L
Instead of being university for the disabled it can be called university for disability studies it could have been much better for not many universities specialise in this. Subramani -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in

Re: [AI] Fwd: Fw: University for the Disabled, the first university of its kind

2009-09-06 Thread uma rao
Hi Subramani I totally agree with you. Uma Rao On 06/09/2009, Subramani L lsubram...@deccanherald.co.in wrote: Instead of being university for the disabled it can be called university for disability studies it could have been much better for not many universities specialise in this.

Re: [AI] Happy Teachers Day

2009-09-06 Thread Subramani L
I feel VI teachers must take this opportunity to reflect particularly on how the role of teachers and the service of teaching has changed drastically with the advent of internet and technology. There is a researcher in the US who has predicted that Universities as we know them today may be dead

Re: [AI] Fwd: Fw: University for the Disabled, the first university of its kind

2009-09-06 Thread Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan
I do see the point behind those thought provoking questions. However it is important to distinguish unity from segmentelization. While it is true that civil rights movement was a remarkable step in uniting people. But at the same time we do not have different universities for blacks and whites.

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2009-09-06 Thread aisha sahani
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2009-09-06 Thread aisha sahani
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2009-09-06 Thread aisha sahani
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Re: [AI] windows live

2009-09-06 Thread Amit Bhatt
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Re: [AI] staff room Happy Teachers Day

2009-09-06 Thread SR Mittal
I think that there should be no separate staffroom for the teachers with visual impairment or any other disability. If there is one in any school/college, it should be strongly opposed. Mittal. - Original Message - From: pamnani kanchanpamn...@gmail.com To:

Re: [AI] problem with windows messanger, help required

2009-09-06 Thread B. R. Nautial
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2009-09-06 Thread SR Mittal
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Re: [AI] staff room Happy Teachers Day

2009-09-06 Thread surya prakash sharma
Hi, i am also not agree to the idea of a seperate staff room for the VI teachers. S. P. Sharma Lecturer, Political Science e-mail: surya.sharm...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: pamnani kanchanpamn...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009

Re: [AI] staff room Happy Teachers Day

2009-09-06 Thread Rakesh Kumar Gupta
I am not College teacher and if any fact is wrong, it may be corrected by college teacher too. The fact about per day period is based on the statement of one of college teacher of DU, who is appointee on 2007. The fact about the students' strength is given on the bases of my college time

Re: [AI] staff room Happy Teachers Day

2009-09-06 Thread Rakesh Kumar Gupta
This is the alternate result, until the reshifting common staff room in 2nd building. The idea of establishing separate staff room for VH teachers has been made after almost 8 months from shifting the common staff room in third building from second building and no VH person can come from that

Re: [AI] problem with windows messanger, help required

2009-09-06 Thread Fayaz Pasha
Dear Aisha, I faced the same problem until yesterday morning I could not sign in to My account. Reinstalling the application solved the problem. HTH Fayaz -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of aisha

Re: [AI] Fwd: Fw: University for the Disabled, the first university of its kind

2009-09-06 Thread moiz tundawala
Hi The point about segmentalization is well taken. But again, why do we tend to attach value connotations to diversity. And seeking inclusion on whose terms? I appretiate the utility of exchange and dialogue, but is it wise to give up our sense of ourselves in all this? My point is only this:

Re: [AI] Fwd: Fw: University for the Disabled, the first university of its kind

2009-09-06 Thread Naushad
According to me, separate university for disabled is a good idea. Because they can implement various accessibility research programs for disabled. I think it is impossible to do for a normal university. As we know, all such efforts vanished into thin air at the environment of normal

Re: [AI] staff room Happy Teachers Day

2009-09-06 Thread Lissy Verghese
Dear list, I completely disagree with the idea of a separate staff room for the visually impaired. We fight for integration, we don't want sympathy. I feel that the visually impaired person should have patience and courage to make the sighted counterparts to take into consideration all our

Re: [AI] Fwd: Fw: University for the Disabled, the first university of its kind

2009-09-06 Thread Naushad
You are absolutely right, I appreciate your good comments! On 9/6/2009 2:48 PM, moiz tundawala wrote: Dear Vetri and George sir, I look at it slightly differently. A university which especially caters to persons with disabilities offers a unique opportunity to get us all on a common platform.

Re: [AI] Fwd: Fw: University for the Disabled, the first university of its kind

2009-09-06 Thread Sandeep Kaler
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Re: [AI] Publishers and Authors who are with bookshare

2009-09-06 Thread Sandeep Kaler
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Re: [AI] problem with windows messanger, help required

2009-09-06 Thread aisha sahani
what to reinstall? windows live, or the default windows messanger comes with windows xp? i've tryed reinstalling windows live just now, still no solution. don't know how to reinstall the windows messanger though. aisha sahani. On 9/6/09, Fayaz Pasha charmingboy...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Aisha,

Re: [AI] staff room Happy Teachers Day

2009-09-06 Thread Vikas Kapoor
First of all, please don't generalise things on the statement of just only one teacher, particularly if you are likely to present the facts/your views before a public forum, and the timetable allotted to a particular teacher in a college/university may very considerably. Secondly, the time you

Re: [AI] staff room Happy Teachers Day

2009-09-06 Thread pamnani
Vikas, I am only referring to your third point. When I asked Rakesh the question I wanted to know exactly what you have answered. A vi student needs some place to work seperately and so does a vi teacher. I cant work if my staff is talking.So we have to balance the general with the segregated.

Re: [AI] scanner

2009-09-06 Thread sanjeev kumar
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Re: [AI] scanner

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Re: [AI] staff room Happy Teachers Day

2009-09-06 Thread Rakesh Kumar Gupta
Hi Kanchan and others, What we demand, it depends on matter to matter. As far concerned to my matter, following points should be mainly noted: 1. Each employee has use to report directly to Principal Office at arrival and departure time about his or her presence in everyday and princile office

Re: [AI] AccessIndia Digest, Vol 41, Issue 27

2009-09-06 Thread Jayachandran
Hello friends, This is Jayachandran. I have a problem in receiving accessindia mails. The mails are put together in a single mail listed as topic 1,2,3,4,etc., But some of my friends are receiving the mails from AI as seperate mails for seperate topic. I would like to switch over to that

Re: [AI] staff room Happy Teachers Day

2009-09-06 Thread SC Vashishth
Hi Kanchan On one hand we demand inclusion in all respects including inclusive education, inclusive employment, however once in, why should we start demanding exclusive staff rooms. If we believe in true philosophy of inclusion, then perhaps being with every one in the common staff room would be

Re: [AI] Your suggestion required

2009-09-06 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
It is a poorly drafted, more poorly interpreted and still more poorly implemented section which has caused so many miseries. And, moreover, in India, even for a constitutional amendment or a law to be implemented, we require enactments, bylaws rules and so on apart from a host of committees and

Re: [AI] Happy Teachers Day

2009-09-06 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
Well Subramani Firstly, I do not agree with US researcher's claim that every one would learn from best minds of the world by downloading from utube etc. Personal touch is something which can not be replaced by technology. Technology may even allow interactivity, but not every one receives the

Re: [AI] staff room Happy Teachers Day

2009-09-06 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
Well, I know that workload in universities and colleges is not more than sixteen lectures per week. So, rakesh's contention about two-three lectures per day seems justified. I am not sure about class strength, though. Besides, unlike schools, college teaching, they say, lasts, at least

Re: [AI] staff room Happy Teachers Day

2009-09-06 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
I fully endorse Rakesh's views that what we demand is highly contextual. In his case, separate space For VI teachers was the demand, and due to shift of staff room to another poorly connected building it became pressing necessity. You cannot, in a government bureaucratic setting, make nice