[AI] problem regarding skype

2013-05-21 Thread Rejin Jose k.
hi all,
as i mentioned in the  above subject i'm facing a problem while using
skype.i'm using skype to chat via facebook.i was using it
perfectly,but  now facebook contacts are not shown in the contact
list.I tried it again by signing in using my facebook account.still
its not showing the contacts list.i tried to reconnect fb in skype,but
i couldn't find any option for that.i'm using  latest version of
skype.please  suggest a solution for this.

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Re: [AI] orjent help regarding taking the snap of screen please!

2013-05-21 Thread Radha
how about doing virtualization of window?
using jaws +alt+w and after that selecting using  control +a  and pasting them.
won't it help?

On 5/20/13, Ajay Minocha ajayminoc...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi raaju,
 Alt + print screen is working here in windows8 as well as  7 at my end.
 regards

 On 5/19/13, raju singh bidh...@gmail.com wrote:
 respected friends,

 i am having a big problem in my computer. and expecting help from you
 all.

 in windows xp or previous, taking the snap of screen was farely easy
 step as if we want to take a snap, we just had to press printscreen or
 alt+printscreen from our keyboard, and paste this snap on the paint
 program and save. now in windows 7, i am having a problem, as i am not
 be able to take a snap of any screen. this above keystroke is no
 longer working.  as in practical assignment, we have to display step
 by step procedure along with the snap. in windows 7, there is a
 program include by default known as snipping tools   which can do
 the job of taking snap of picture. but the main problem i am facing is
 that i am not being able to use this program from the keyboard. so, i
 was wandering that is there any third party software which can do the
 same job and can also be used from keyboard? or if any one know the
 procedure regarding taking snap of computer screen with sneeping tool
 without using mouse, i would be very grateful, as i have to submit my
 practical assignment on 26 may.
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 raaju singh
  10th mile power house, p.o kalimpong, dist. darjeeling, 734301 skype
 is raaju127 and facebook is raaju12

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Re: [AI] maths tutor

2013-05-21 Thread Radha
Madam,
you can contact NAB library  for quicker mathematics books.
and my personal  opinion is rather than mom no one will teach a  VI
child the best.


On 5/20/13, Anjina Bhat anjina1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Mr Harish

  Thank you for the same and well noted for the subject line.
 For vedic mathis i tried with few teachers but they are not ready to teach
 the child with visual problem .
 Please if possible can i know the contact details of the people who teaches
 the same and are ready to take the challenge . I stay in vasundhara
 ghaziabad
 thank you so much
 anjina


 On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 2:39 PM, Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in wrote:

 Dear Anjina

 Firstly, pl do take care to put appropriate subject line. I have now
 modified it.

 I would suggest you take some extra efforts to teach him vedic maths. The
 reason being it is oriented for mental maths which will have added
 advantage to him in days to come.

 Besides, of course do take lessons for abacus and nemathcode.

 Regards
 Harish Kotian.

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf Of Anjina Bhat
 Sent: 20 May 2013 14:08
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: [AI] (no subject)

 hi dear access members

  Regarding my fourth class son can any one suggest how to improve math
 skills of my son . he is in class 4th
  regards
 anjina

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Re: [AI] orjent help regarding taking the snap of screen please!

2013-05-21 Thread Raju singh
Thanks a tonne all for your valuable tricks. But fortune is not favoring me, as 
 no suggested keystrokes is working to my computer. I am using win 7 ultimate 
32 bit. So please suggest me any 3rd party software which will do the same job.
Thanks.
Raaju.  
-Original message-
From: Rejin Jose k.
Sent:  20/05/2013, 4:19  pm
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] orjent help regarding taking the snap of screen please!


hi,
try the below  key stroke to take snapshot and pasting it into paint.
press CTRL+print screen.
after doing the above key stroke the snapshot will be copied into the
clipboard.So just open paint and paste it using CTRL+v
hope this helps

On 5/20/13, Uma phago phago@gmail.com wrote:
 hey raju
 alt plus print screen should work on win 7, it is working for me.

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Re: [AI] Views Invited: Legal issues in an insurance contract for people with disabilities.

2013-05-21 Thread Sagar Sodah
Hi All,

The extra premium does have a logical basis, in terms of being at increased
risk. Now it depends on the disability and the accident if such increased
risk is valid or not.

For example, crossing the road, might be considered more riskier if you are
blind compared to if you are normally sighted.

The tricky part is,  this risk is difficult to calculate, and there is a
very fine line between such calculation and discrimination.

A possible solution could be that in cases where disability plays a major
role in an injury the insurance company should be allowed to claim part or
all of the money in turn from the owner of the premises where the accident
happens. This makes sense because the discrimination or risk is actually
due to lack of accessible/inclusive infrastructure. This would also push
private builders and government to make infrastructure accessible.


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On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 3:12 PM, akhilesh akhil.akhi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Right Harish Sir,
 But as far as this judgment is concerned, it is not applicable to
 Private bodies.

 unjustified denial can surely be challenged on the well established
 grounds as you've mentioned.

 It is the responsibility of IRDA (I.R.D.A) that disable are not
 discriminated/charged extra premium  on the grounds of their
 disabilities by private companies.

 @Amar:
 I'll go through the judgment and get back to you soon.


 On 5/20/13, Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in wrote:
  Hi
  To put a non legal perspective, the government / regulators can issue
  guidelines which holds good for the entire industry which includes both
  public and private bodies. When RBI issues guidelines it does not
  differentiate between the private and PSu's.
  At any rate, the stats does not bring about any justification on applying
  additional premium. There is no basis for the additional premium which
 would
  fall into what can be termed as arbitrarily decision.
 
  Harish Kotian
 
  -Original Message-
  From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
  Of Amar Jain
  Sent: 20 May 2013 13:34
  To: accessindia
  Subject: Re: [AI] Views Invited: Legal issues in an insurance contract
 for
  people with disabilities.
 
  Dear Akhil Bhaiya,
 
  At last, I see someone's legal views.
 
  May be my drafting of second question needs to be revisited by myself
  to make it more clear. What I meant to ask, that considering that LIC
  and other such bodies being created for public welfare etc., the
  principles were being applied through this judgment keeping the social
  welfare objective in mind. But, would the principles hold good even in
  case of private insurers? As you rightly said, this judgment by itself
  will not be applicable to private bodies (unless the court sitting to
  interpret and stretches it to the private insurers keeping the public
  objective in mind), but that is a matter of construction, and as a
  general rule it will not be applicable. But can the principles of this
  judgment bind the other bodies too? Or, would the principles be
  restricted to Art. 12 bodies?
 
  Lets hope that we have more views in toto on this issue.
 
  Regards
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Re: [AI] Paper for Thermoform.

2013-05-21 Thread S R Mittal
I will ask them to respond to your mai.

Mittal

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Amiyo Biswas
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 8:11 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Paper for Thermoform.

I sent them a mail las Monday, but they have not yet replied. I learned from

Amarnath Dey of our list that it is available from American Thermoform 
Corporation. Their web site shows Braille paper of various sizes, but none 
for thermoform.


With best regards,
Amiyo Biswas
Cell: +91-9433464329

- Original Message - 
From: S R Mittal srmit...@gmail.com
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 5:53 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Paper for Thermoform.


 You may get in touch with sparsh Products i...@sparshproducts.com

 Mittal

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 Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 6:57 AM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: [AI] Paper for Thermoform.

 Hello,

 A friend of mind wants to purchase special plastic paper for the 
 thermoform
 of his institution in Kolkata. Where is it available in India?


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Re: [AI] new changes in EVMS

2013-05-21 Thread Sagar Sodah
it should be straight forward to make the printer give audio output of what
it is printing, which could be heard through earphones.

Now since Election Commission is not up to date with Access India mailing
list, i suppose we will have to take it up with them if we want to do
anything on this issue.

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On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 6:34 PM, Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in wrote:

 Dear Pavan

 I suppose, I got it wrong, I was under the impression, this printout was
 for us to keep and carry with us. From what I gather from your reply, it
 has to be deposited at the polling station and if need be, the hard copy
 could be used for counting in case there is any dispute of mollified
 practise.

 In that case, what I can suggest, this device should be an add-on with no
 electrical connection with the main EVM. It should be able to update by GSM
 / 3g / WIFI / Lanand collect voice prompts from the EC website and assist
 voters using EVM. Maybe it can be placed over the EVM panel and could be
 placed on demand / request.

 This would have larger acceptance and it need not be priced prohivitively.
 The development would of course take some time. The proof of concept can be
 vetted.

 Harish Kotian.

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf Of pavan kumar lingam
 Sent: 20 May 2013 15:21
 To: accessindia
 Subject: Re: [AI] new changes in EVMS

 dear Harish
 EC will notpermit us to take the eprint paper  outside  the poling
 station so doing OCR may not be posible  unless we make use of our
 mobile phone againmost of us have  have basic phones  so i don't
 think this option would be viable  please explain it clearly  if
 understood  it in a wrong manner.
 regards,

 --
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[AI] Regarding purchasing beepless call recorder from killermobile.

2013-05-21 Thread Surendra Salgaonkar
Dear ones,
 As somebody suggested I download beepless call recorder trial version. Now, 
how should I buy it? Because the trial period is over. 
Thank you and good luck
Surendra Salgaonkar
 Phones
:+912226473918
+919867645933
 Emails.
salgaonkarconce...@rediffmail.com
 Office
surendra.salgaon...@sbi.co.in
 Skype.
salgaonkarskype


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[AI] ***SPAM*** Product Request

2013-05-21 Thread Jimmy Henchman
Hello

Can you send us your full Product catalog, we want to buy and ship to united
kingdom

waiting
for your response
Henchman Bellinus


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[AI] Query regarding right-centering text.

2013-05-21 Thread Kakarla Nageswaraiah
Dear All,
I know the commands ctrl + r to right align and ctrl + e to centre the selected 
text.  Any command for right-centering text?  For instance,  the last three 
lines of a letter needs to be right aligned and centred.  After selecting the 
lines, if I use ctrl + r and ctrl + e, JAWS is not saying 'Right-Centered' when 
I press Insert + f to confirm.
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[AI] Moderator:RE: ***SPAM*** Product Request

2013-05-21 Thread Kotian, H P
This is off-topic and hence traffic is closed.
Harish Kotian


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Jimmy Henchman
Sent: 21 May 2013 03:00
Subject: [AI] ***SPAM*** Product Request

Hello

Can you send us your full Product catalog, we want to buy and ship to united
kingdom

waiting
for your response
Henchman Bellinus


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Re: [AI] Views Invited: Legal issues in an insurance contract for people with disabilities.

2013-05-21 Thread Kotian, H P
Sagar

The only objective way to deal with it is on the basis of stats. Statistics 
does not show that because of disability they are more prone to accidents. If 
that be the case, there is no justification to charge extra. The irony is that 
the able bodied are more accident prone and in reality they should give us 
discounts.

Harish Kotian



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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Sagar Sodah
Sent: 20 May 2013 18:00
To: accessindia
Subject: Re: [AI] Views Invited: Legal issues in an insurance contract for 
people with disabilities.

Hi All,

The extra premium does have a logical basis, in terms of being at increased
risk. Now it depends on the disability and the accident if such increased
risk is valid or not.

For example, crossing the road, might be considered more riskier if you are
blind compared to if you are normally sighted.

The tricky part is,  this risk is difficult to calculate, and there is a
very fine line between such calculation and discrimination.

A possible solution could be that in cases where disability plays a major
role in an injury the insurance company should be allowed to claim part or
all of the money in turn from the owner of the premises where the accident
happens. This makes sense because the discrimination or risk is actually
due to lack of accessible/inclusive infrastructure. This would also push
private builders and government to make infrastructure accessible.


Sagar
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intouchid: 2010-SAGAR007 http://intch.me/2010-SAGAR007

The evil of the world is made possible only by the sanction you give it.
- John Galt in Atlas Shrugged


On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 3:12 PM, akhilesh akhil.akhi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Right Harish Sir,
 But as far as this judgment is concerned, it is not applicable to
 Private bodies.

 unjustified denial can surely be challenged on the well established
 grounds as you've mentioned.

 It is the responsibility of IRDA (I.R.D.A) that disable are not
 discriminated/charged extra premium  on the grounds of their
 disabilities by private companies.

 @Amar:
 I'll go through the judgment and get back to you soon.


 On 5/20/13, Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in wrote:
  Hi
  To put a non legal perspective, the government / regulators can issue
  guidelines which holds good for the entire industry which includes both
  public and private bodies. When RBI issues guidelines it does not
  differentiate between the private and PSu's.
  At any rate, the stats does not bring about any justification on applying
  additional premium. There is no basis for the additional premium which
 would
  fall into what can be termed as arbitrarily decision.
 
  Harish Kotian
 
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  From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
  Of Amar Jain
  Sent: 20 May 2013 13:34
  To: accessindia
  Subject: Re: [AI] Views Invited: Legal issues in an insurance contract
 for
  people with disabilities.
 
  Dear Akhil Bhaiya,
 
  At last, I see someone's legal views.
 
  May be my drafting of second question needs to be revisited by myself
  to make it more clear. What I meant to ask, that considering that LIC
  and other such bodies being created for public welfare etc., the
  principles were being applied through this judgment keeping the social
  welfare objective in mind. But, would the principles hold good even in
  case of private insurers? As you rightly said, this judgment by itself
  will not be applicable to private bodies (unless the court sitting to
  interpret and stretches it to the private insurers keeping the public
  objective in mind), but that is a matter of construction, and as a
  general rule it will not be applicable. But can the principles of this
  judgment bind the other bodies too? Or, would the principles be
  restricted to Art. 12 bodies?
 
  Lets hope that we have more views in toto on this issue.
 
  Regards
  --
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Re: [AI] Regarding purchasing beepless call recorder from killermobile.

2013-05-21 Thread Mohib Anwar Rafel
if you are able to perchase from them, please let me  know. I also
tried to perchase from them but i didn't find any way to perchase
except credit card!

On 5/20/13, Surendra Salgaonkar surendra.salgaonk...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear ones,
  As somebody suggested I download beepless call recorder trial version. Now,
 how should I buy it? Because the trial period is over.
 Thank you and good luck
 Surendra Salgaonkar
  Phones
 :+912226473918
 +919867645933
  Emails.
 salgaonkarconce...@rediffmail.com
  Office
 surendra.salgaon...@sbi.co.in
  Skype.
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Re: [AI] Civil Services Pre 2013

2013-05-21 Thread Mohib Anwar Rafel
I think here nobody will be with out scribe, however you can find many
people there at the center.

On 5/21/13, vishal M vishalcse2...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Friends,

 Anyone here who will be sitting for pre without a scribe?

 Thanks and Regards,
 Vishal
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Re: [AI] Job for Computer Teacher

2013-05-21 Thread srikanth bolla
This is ridiculous. I actually did not read the actual email when I replied
to earlier email. I do understand with regular organizations but why NAB is
not allowing VI computer instructors? Is this not clearly hindering the
talents of visually challenged people? Someone should enquire with concern
branch and find out reasons behind not allowing VI instructors. If the
reasons are fare, then it's fine otherwise, we should maybe educate the
branch or take the matter to higher authorities. Regards,

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of yusuf abbasi
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 3:14 AM
To: accessindia
Subject: [AI] Job for Computer Teacher

-- 
Mobile   08010663328
09268704236
Hi Friends!
There is a job for computer teacher in National Association for the Blind
Faridabad in Haryana State Branch.
NAB Faridabad is looking for female computer teacher for teaching visually
impaired students.
NAB Faridabad conducts six months computer training for visually impaired
students.
In this training, they teach Microsoft Word, Microsoft Excel, Internet and
Windows etc.
anyone can apply except visually impaired person.
Requirements: Educational Qualification B.A.
Technical Qualification: Diploma or six months certificate etc.
Good English
Salary: 7000 to 1 and according to performance.
Contact: 08010663328
E-mail: yusuftajma...@gmail.com
Contact soon

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Re: [AI] ever wanted to know how to password protect any files/ folders without using any software ??? here you go!

2013-05-21 Thread Mohib Anwar Rafel
couldn't understand, very complicated.

On 5/21/13, Umair Ijaz umairthescho...@gmail.com wrote:
 Password Protect Any Folder Without Any Software

 dear friends,

 assalam o alaikum and hello,
 In my previous post i have taught you to
 hide files using software easy file locker
 if you missed that mail then you can request this as well. but today's
 trick is very much cool!

 In this tutorial i will show you interesting and useful trick to
 password protect folder without using any software using batch file
 programming. This
 trick will work on all windows platform (Win XP, Win 7). Follow below
 tutorial to learn this trick.

 How To Lock Folder ?
 use the file lock.bat which i wrote and you can download it from the
 following link:
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/zw9657lgluzqhhz/lock.bat?token_hash=AAGafbbeOX5MgMDHk1P-VH4xvmXjMwa59I-kvriycYXsZAdl=1
 for those friends of mine who want to learn that how this file
 was written using which code then following is the code written and
 they can look at it. the following line of code and first two steps
 are  for advanced programmers. for beginner users , just download the
 file lock.bat from the above link and use it as described in the steps
 for all , starting from step 3, 4 and so on.

 steps for advanced users
  1. Open Notepad and Copy code given below into it.

 block quote
 cls
 @ECHO OFF
 title UmairIjazTheScholar
 if EXIST Control Panel.{21EC2020-3AEA-1069-A2DD-08002B30309D} goto UNLOCK
 if NOT EXIST UmairTheScholar goto MDUmairTheScholar
 :CONFIRM
 echo Are you sure to lock this folder? (Y/N)
 set/p cho=
 if %cho%==Y goto LOCK
 if %cho%==y goto LOCK
 if %cho%==n goto END
 if %cho%==N goto END
 echo Invalid choice.
 goto CONFIRM
 :LOCK
 ren UmairTheScholar Control Panel.{21EC2020-3AEA-1069-A2DD-08002B30309D}
 attrib +h +s Control Panel.{21EC2020-3AEA-1069-A2DD-08002B30309D}
 echo Folder locked
 goto End
 :UNLOCK
 echo Enter password to Unlock Your Secure Folder
 set/p pass=
 if NOT %pass%== umair goto FAIL
 attrib -h -s Control Panel.{21EC2020-3AEA-1069-A2DD-08002B30309D}
 ren Control Panel.{21EC2020-3AEA-1069-A2DD-08002B30309D} UmairTheScholar
 echo Folder Unlocked successfully
 goto End
 :FAIL
 echo Invalid password
 goto end
 :MDUmairTheScholar
 md UmairTheScholar
 echo MyFolder created successfully
 goto End
 :End
 block quote end
  2. Save the notepad file as lock.bat (.bat is must)

 steps for all
  3. Now double click on lock.bat and a new folder will be created with name

 UmairTheScholar

 in the location where lock.bat is placed.
  4. Copy all your data you want to protect in that New folder
  5. Now double click on lock.bat and when command promp appears Type Y
 and press enter. the message is written on the screen which you can
 read using jaws cursor but it is not necessarry. it is confirmation
 message so Y for yes serves the purpose.
  6. Now your secret folder

 UmairTheScholar

 will be hidden from  the view.

  to access that folder double click on lock.bat file again.

  7. It will ask for password. enter the password

 umair

 without quotes and you are done.
 note:
 again asking message for password is written on screen and pc cursor
 does not read this. as you know that what you are going to do so just
 write the password and hit enter no need to do anything else.

 How To Further Secure ?
 You might be thinking that anyone can access the password by opening
 that lock.bat file in Notepad or any other text editor. To make it
 more secure hide
 lock.bat in some secure location after following the above tutorial To
 access the secured file double click on lock.bat. I would suggest
 copying lock.bat
 file into Pendrive and copying it into your computer whenever you
 required to access to your protected files.

 how was the trick? share your feedback on that.

 thanks!

 --

   Don't let a little dispute injure a great friendship

 Umair Ijaz, Scholar for Scholars
 webpage: www.lcddp.org/umair

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Re: [AI] Job for Computer Teacher

2013-05-21 Thread Mohib Anwar Rafel
I think this is not any kind of discrimination against visually
challanged community. This is the endeavor to give the best so that
the teacher could handle all odd situations which a visually
challanged teacher cann't handle, provided that sighted teacher is
well-grounded in assistive technology. May be that organization is
looking someone who could do some importent work even outside the
computer classes which can be done by a sighted person only. So don't
blaim the organization here and treat it as in the interest of
students.

On 5/21/13, srikanth bolla presidentsrika...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi guys,
 This is really sad discrimination and news. I think to some extent, we
 are giving them the chance to underestimate visually challenge people or
 teachers. As an employer myself who is dedicated to  recruiting  disabled
 people, feel  that  visually challenged people  will not  take  active
 step
 in learning to fulfill  work role.  Most people show their disability and
 escape from work and give out en number of reasons for coming on time and
 much more.  I do understand that all visually challenged people are not
 lazy
 but most of them though. I compare visually challenged people with other
 disabilities and found that most visually challenged people are not active
 and never attempt to learn.  Sorry if this hurts but this is high time that
 we all should change ourselves and should not expect easy things and work.
 Work environment is always challenging irrespective of once disability. So
 employers will be confident once we start to show at most dedication. I
 understand various reasons being saying visually challenged people should
 not apply. For example, how can you fix power and hardware connections? How
 can you work on inaccessible applications while teaching? If the computer
 crashes and freezes how can you fix. These are few reasons maybe they are
 thinking. If you can do all these things, then we have to let employers
 know. my ideas are based on Personal  experience. Regards,

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of vikram babu
 Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 1:33 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Job for Computer Teacher

 Hi friends,

 This line hurts me a lot. anyone can apply except visually impaired
 person.
 
 I am really sorry if it is wrong to comment on this issue on this list. But
 I would like to have the openion of the person who had posted this
 information. I need fue clarifications like:

 1. Why visually challenged teachers are not allowed to apply for this post,
 when it is ment for teaching computers to the visually challenged students?
 2. These days many visually challenged people are trying to do their best
 to
 creat awareness, How we can handle things confidently! Then why this
 discrimination?

 I have seen many challenged people doing their duties confidently and
 achieving the goals in short time. But I really feel sad to hear this line.
 Sorry. It is not my intention to hurt some one. but these are my feelings
 after getting so much hurt to the words.
 Thanks for reading.
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Re: [AI] orjent help regarding taking the snap of screen please!

2013-05-21 Thread Mohib Anwar Rafel
what do hear when u press print screen key?

On 5/20/13, Raju singh bidh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks a tonne all for your valuable tricks. But fortune is not favoring me,
 as  no suggested keystrokes is working to my computer. I am using win 7
 ultimate 32 bit. So please suggest me any 3rd party software which will do
 the same job.
 Thanks.
 Raaju.
 -Original message-
 From: Rejin Jose k.
 Sent:  20/05/2013, 4:19  pm
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] orjent help regarding taking the snap of screen please!


 hi,
 try the below  key stroke to take snapshot and pasting it into paint.
 press CTRL+print screen.
 after doing the above key stroke the snapshot will be copied into the
 clipboard.So just open paint and paste it using CTRL+v
 hope this helps

 On 5/20/13, Uma phago phago@gmail.com wrote:
 hey raju
 alt plus print screen should work on win 7, it is working for me.

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Re: [AI] Regarding purchasing beepless call recorder from killermobile.

2013-05-21 Thread Deepak Singla
Hi
Yesterday I have bought the same from Nokia Ovi Store by making
payments through my debit card. Nokia also offers payment through your
mobile bill if you have post paid connection.

Working successfully.

On 5/21/13, Mohib Anwar Rafel mohibra...@gmail.com wrote:
 if you are able to perchase from them, please let me  know. I also
 tried to perchase from them but i didn't find any way to perchase
 except credit card!

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 Dear ones,
  As somebody suggested I download beepless call recorder trial version.
 Now,
 how should I buy it? Because the trial period is over.
 Thank you and good luck
 Surendra Salgaonkar
  Phones
 :+912226473918
 +919867645933
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 surendra.salgaon...@sbi.co.in
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[AI] Need suggestion about OCR software

2013-05-21 Thread jerinjose84

Dear friends,

I want to know which OCR software is better among fine reader, open book and 
Kurzwail. I know that these three use the same OCR engine. Would like to know 
the price as well. 

With best regards,

Jerin Jose
M: +919539510031
Facebook: jyjerin



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[AI] Book needed: wings of fire

2013-05-21 Thread Deepak Singla
Hi
Can anyone provide me the book Wings of fire.
Thanks in advance...

Deepak Singla
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Re: [AI] Job for Computer Teacher

2013-05-21 Thread akhilesh
Hello all,
I do agree with some observation made by some members that most of VI
people barring a few, don't match the challenging environment of
corporate/private establishments. However,
How many Sighted know that there is something called jaws? How many
know that blind uses keyboard and not mouse? How many know that there
is something called assistive technology? How many of you agree that a
sighted people can teach better computer than a visually-impaired to a
visually-impaired? And how many sighted people are aware about number
and number of jaws commands? And list goes on and on!

The Primary job of a computer instructor is to impart the computer
knowledge to trainees and not to repair the computers! I wonder that
how an organization dedicated to welfare of visually-impaired can
publish such and laughable ad prescribing the idiotic qualification!
Computer Training center for visually-impaired, but Trainee should not
be visually-impaired!!
Thanks,


On 5/21/13, Mohib Anwar Rafel mohibra...@gmail.com wrote:
 I think this is not any kind of discrimination against visually
 challanged community. This is the endeavor to give the best so that
 the teacher could handle all odd situations which a visually
 challanged teacher cann't handle, provided that sighted teacher is
 well-grounded in assistive technology. May be that organization is
 looking someone who could do some importent work even outside the
 computer classes which can be done by a sighted person only. So don't
 blaim the organization here and treat it as in the interest of
 students.

 On 5/21/13, srikanth bolla presidentsrika...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi guys,
 This is really sad discrimination and news. I think to some extent,
 we
 are giving them the chance to underestimate visually challenge people or
 teachers. As an employer myself who is dedicated to  recruiting  disabled
 people, feel  that  visually challenged people  will not  take  active
 step
 in learning to fulfill  work role.  Most people show their disability and
 escape from work and give out en number of reasons for coming on time and
 much more.  I do understand that all visually challenged people are not
 lazy
 but most of them though. I compare visually challenged people with other
 disabilities and found that most visually challenged people are not
 active
 and never attempt to learn.  Sorry if this hurts but this is high time
 that
 we all should change ourselves and should not expect easy things and
 work.
 Work environment is always challenging irrespective of once disability.
 So
 employers will be confident once we start to show at most dedication. I
 understand various reasons being saying visually challenged people should
 not apply. For example, how can you fix power and hardware connections?
 How
 can you work on inaccessible applications while teaching? If the computer
 crashes and freezes how can you fix. These are few reasons maybe they are
 thinking. If you can do all these things, then we have to let employers
 know. my ideas are based on Personal  experience. Regards,

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of vikram babu
 Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 1:33 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Job for Computer Teacher

 Hi friends,

 This line hurts me a lot. anyone can apply except visually impaired
 person.
 
 I am really sorry if it is wrong to comment on this issue on this list.
 But
 I would like to have the openion of the person who had posted this
 information. I need fue clarifications like:

 1. Why visually challenged teachers are not allowed to apply for this
 post,
 when it is ment for teaching computers to the visually challenged
 students?
 2. These days many visually challenged people are trying to do their best
 to
 creat awareness, How we can handle things confidently! Then why this
 discrimination?

 I have seen many challenged people doing their duties confidently and
 achieving the goals in short time. But I really feel sad to hear this
 line.
 Sorry. It is not my intention to hurt some one. but these are my feelings
 after getting so much hurt to the words.
 Thanks for reading.
 --
   With best wishes,
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Re: [AI] Views Invited: Legal issues in an insurance contract for people with disabilities.

2013-05-21 Thread akhilesh
Hi Sagar,
Assuming that you're correct. However, It is the duty of the
state/government to provide the safe environment to PWDs including
crossing of roads. So one can not and in fact should not be allowed to
take the advantage of its own wrong.



On 5/21/13, Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in wrote:
 Sagar

 The only objective way to deal with it is on the basis of stats. Statistics
 does not show that because of disability they are more prone to accidents.
 If that be the case, there is no justification to charge extra. The irony is
 that the able bodied are more accident prone and in reality they should give
 us discounts.

 Harish Kotian



 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of Sagar Sodah
 Sent: 20 May 2013 18:00
 To: accessindia
 Subject: Re: [AI] Views Invited: Legal issues in an insurance contract for
 people with disabilities.

 Hi All,

 The extra premium does have a logical basis, in terms of being at increased
 risk. Now it depends on the disability and the accident if such increased
 risk is valid or not.

 For example, crossing the road, might be considered more riskier if you are
 blind compared to if you are normally sighted.

 The tricky part is,  this risk is difficult to calculate, and there is a
 very fine line between such calculation and discrimination.

 A possible solution could be that in cases where disability plays a major
 role in an injury the insurance company should be allowed to claim part or
 all of the money in turn from the owner of the premises where the accident
 happens. This makes sense because the discrimination or risk is actually
 due to lack of accessible/inclusive infrastructure. This would also push
 private builders and government to make infrastructure accessible.


 Sagar
 +91 99 30 271732
 intouchid: 2010-SAGAR007 http://intch.me/2010-SAGAR007

 The evil of the world is made possible only by the sanction you give it.
 - John Galt in Atlas Shrugged


 On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 3:12 PM, akhilesh akhil.akhi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Right Harish Sir,
 But as far as this judgment is concerned, it is not applicable to
 Private bodies.

 unjustified denial can surely be challenged on the well established
 grounds as you've mentioned.

 It is the responsibility of IRDA (I.R.D.A) that disable are not
 discriminated/charged extra premium  on the grounds of their
 disabilities by private companies.

 @Amar:
 I'll go through the judgment and get back to you soon.


 On 5/20/13, Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in wrote:
  Hi
  To put a non legal perspective, the government / regulators can issue
  guidelines which holds good for the entire industry which includes both
  public and private bodies. When RBI issues guidelines it does not
  differentiate between the private and PSu's.
  At any rate, the stats does not bring about any justification on
  applying
  additional premium. There is no basis for the additional premium which
 would
  fall into what can be termed as arbitrarily decision.
 
  Harish Kotian
 
  -Original Message-
  From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
  Of Amar Jain
  Sent: 20 May 2013 13:34
  To: accessindia
  Subject: Re: [AI] Views Invited: Legal issues in an insurance contract
 for
  people with disabilities.
 
  Dear Akhil Bhaiya,
 
  At last, I see someone's legal views.
 
  May be my drafting of second question needs to be revisited by myself
  to make it more clear. What I meant to ask, that considering that LIC
  and other such bodies being created for public welfare etc., the
  principles were being applied through this judgment keeping the social
  welfare objective in mind. But, would the principles hold good even in
  case of private insurers? As you rightly said, this judgment by itself
  will not be applicable to private bodies (unless the court sitting to
  interpret and stretches it to the private insurers keeping the public
  objective in mind), but that is a matter of construction, and as a
  general rule it will not be applicable. But can the principles of this
  judgment bind the other bodies too? Or, would the principles be
  restricted to Art. 12 bodies?
 
  Lets hope that we have more views in toto on this issue.
 
  Regards
  --
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  Website: www.amarjain.com
 
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Re: [AI] Query regarding right-centering text.

2013-05-21 Thread zameer pasha
Hi Friend,

Control+ R to rite aline control+L to left aline control+E to senter
aline. if you made rite aline jaws will speak rite aline and if you
make center aline jaws dont say rite center aline. to know this
position in MS office you have to  press insart+ F.

On 5/21/13, Kakarla Nageswaraiah nageswara1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear All,
 I know the commands ctrl + r to right align and ctrl + e to centre the
 selected text.  Any command for right-centering text?  For instance,  the
 last three lines of a letter needs to be right aligned and centred.  After
 selecting the lines, if I use ctrl + r and ctrl + e, JAWS is not saying
 'Right-Centered' when I press Insert + f to confirm.
 Thanks and regards.


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Re: [AI] Job for Computer Teacher

2013-05-21 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
So, they should not call the post a computer instructor, rather they should 
call it a callboy/call girl

If NAB says computer instructor but not for VI, then, NAB has forfeited all 
rights to be a so-called representative organization...

They should take a lesson or two in modern jurisprudence which has concepts of 
reasonable accommodation and non handicapping environment well grounded.

Actually,  NAB has been flaunting slogans like:
Do you know blind can drive
on their site and misleading the public at large.

NAB India general secretary has publicly proclaimed more than once that 
reservation to disabled/VI is against principles of equality
So, the approach is more than clear.

Let us collectively take up cudgels  against such approach and such 
institutions


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Mohib Anwar Rafel
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 12:20 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Job for Computer Teacher

I think this is not any kind of discrimination against visually
challanged community. This is the endeavor to give the best so that
the teacher could handle all odd situations which a visually
challanged teacher cann't handle, provided that sighted teacher is
well-grounded in assistive technology. May be that organization is
looking someone who could do some importent work even outside the
computer classes which can be done by a sighted person only. So don't
blaim the organization here and treat it as in the interest of
students.

On 5/21/13, srikanth bolla presidentsrika...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi guys,
 This is really sad discrimination and news. I think to some extent, we
 are giving them the chance to underestimate visually challenge people or
 teachers. As an employer myself who is dedicated to  recruiting  disabled
 people, feel  that  visually challenged people  will not  take  active
 step
 in learning to fulfill  work role.  Most people show their disability and
 escape from work and give out en number of reasons for coming on time and
 much more.  I do understand that all visually challenged people are not
 lazy
 but most of them though. I compare visually challenged people with other
 disabilities and found that most visually challenged people are not active
 and never attempt to learn.  Sorry if this hurts but this is high time that
 we all should change ourselves and should not expect easy things and work.
 Work environment is always challenging irrespective of once disability. So
 employers will be confident once we start to show at most dedication. I
 understand various reasons being saying visually challenged people should
 not apply. For example, how can you fix power and hardware connections? How
 can you work on inaccessible applications while teaching? If the computer
 crashes and freezes how can you fix. These are few reasons maybe they are
 thinking. If you can do all these things, then we have to let employers
 know. my ideas are based on Personal  experience. Regards,

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of vikram babu
 Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 1:33 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Job for Computer Teacher

 Hi friends,

 This line hurts me a lot. anyone can apply except visually impaired
 person.
 
 I am really sorry if it is wrong to comment on this issue on this list. But
 I would like to have the openion of the person who had posted this
 information. I need fue clarifications like:

 1. Why visually challenged teachers are not allowed to apply for this post,
 when it is ment for teaching computers to the visually challenged students?
 2. These days many visually challenged people are trying to do their best
 to
 creat awareness, How we can handle things confidently! Then why this
 discrimination?

 I have seen many challenged people doing their duties confidently and
 achieving the goals in short time. But I really feel sad to hear this line.
 Sorry. It is not my intention to hurt some one. but these are my feelings
 after getting so much hurt to the words.
 Thanks for reading.
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   With best wishes,
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Re: [AI] Job for Computer Teacher

2013-05-21 Thread Mohib Anwar Rafel
I cann't understand one point here that is there any violation of any
legal orfundamental right of visually challanged community? Why you
don't challange the appointment of various nondisabled welfare
officers and high officials who are appointed for the public
assistance of the handicapped persons? They are not aware of special
needs and all around development of disabled community. Do you
remember it is first time when a visually challanged person has been
appointed as chief commissioner for persons with disabilities. All the
time they have been appointing such persons who are not even aware of
basic legal provisions and their special treatment! Why are you people
crying so long then?
Therefore this is not matter of discrimination and infringement of
right, but yes I do agree that that the sighted teacher should be well
versed in operation of assistive technology, and I think the
organization will take care of this matter. I am of the view that
these organizations should promote employment opportunities for
disabled community first but if they have serious reservations while
doing so then we should not condemn their decisions, however either of
two should not be done at the cost of optimum learning entourage.

On 5/21/13, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:
 So, they should not call the post a computer instructor, rather they should
 call it a callboy/call girl

 If NAB says computer instructor but not for VI, then, NAB has forfeited all
 rights to be a so-called representative organization...

 They should take a lesson or two in modern jurisprudence which has concepts
 of reasonable accommodation and non handicapping environment well grounded.

 Actually,  NAB has been flaunting slogans like:
 Do you know blind can drive
 on their site and misleading the public at large.

 NAB India general secretary has publicly proclaimed more than once that
 reservation to disabled/VI is against principles of equality
 So, the approach is more than clear.

 Let us collectively take up cudgels  against such approach and such
 institutions


 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of Mohib Anwar Rafel
 Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 12:20 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Job for Computer Teacher

 I think this is not any kind of discrimination against visually
 challanged community. This is the endeavor to give the best so that
 the teacher could handle all odd situations which a visually
 challanged teacher cann't handle, provided that sighted teacher is
 well-grounded in assistive technology. May be that organization is
 looking someone who could do some importent work even outside the
 computer classes which can be done by a sighted person only. So don't
 blaim the organization here and treat it as in the interest of
 students.

 On 5/21/13, srikanth bolla presidentsrika...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi guys,
 This is really sad discrimination and news. I think to some extent,
 we
 are giving them the chance to underestimate visually challenge people or
 teachers. As an employer myself who is dedicated to  recruiting  disabled
 people, feel  that  visually challenged people  will not  take  active
 step
 in learning to fulfill  work role.  Most people show their disability and
 escape from work and give out en number of reasons for coming on time and
 much more.  I do understand that all visually challenged people are not
 lazy
 but most of them though. I compare visually challenged people with other
 disabilities and found that most visually challenged people are not
 active
 and never attempt to learn.  Sorry if this hurts but this is high time
 that
 we all should change ourselves and should not expect easy things and
 work.
 Work environment is always challenging irrespective of once disability.
 So
 employers will be confident once we start to show at most dedication. I
 understand various reasons being saying visually challenged people should
 not apply. For example, how can you fix power and hardware connections?
 How
 can you work on inaccessible applications while teaching? If the computer
 crashes and freezes how can you fix. These are few reasons maybe they are
 thinking. If you can do all these things, then we have to let employers
 know. my ideas are based on Personal  experience. Regards,

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of vikram babu
 Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 1:33 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Job for Computer Teacher

 Hi friends,

 This line hurts me a lot. anyone can apply except visually impaired
 person.
 
 I am really sorry if it is wrong to comment on this issue on this list.
 But
 I would like to have the openion of the person who had posted this
 information. I need fue clarifications like:

 1. Why visually challenged teachers are not allowed to apply for this
 post,
 when it is 

Re: [AI] Job for Computer Teacher

2013-05-21 Thread Rajesh H Mehta
 I agree with Rajeshjee/Srikanth’s views towards billow news regarding 
NAB’s  attitude towards VI appointment.
Infact if I am not too wrong this is only the institute which should 
promote VI employment opportunity. If what ever even they might have to 
get done extra work from non VI, why VI unable to do it? Also, If NAB goes 
on saying that VI could do every thing isn’t it this time they are not 
living what they teach others? Though some how we are no 1 to force any 
institute to dictate our terms but I would like to request incase if there 
is any 1 on this list who could convey our request to NAB branch to 
re-consider above criteria and pleas also do give equal opportunity to any 
competent VI. 

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[AI] can i use two simultaneous internet connections at a time?

2013-05-21 Thread Mohib Anwar Rafel
Hi friends I use MTNL broadband connection for accessing internet
generally, but I also have another 3G modem provided by the university
to access university's LAN on a proxy connection to access its
subscribed resources. Friends is it possible that while using this
MTNL broadband I could use this 3g USB modem and could access the
proxy connection when ever needed? It mean I will be using two
simultaneous internet connection in different browsers! Please educate
me on this requirement.

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Pursuing Masters of Law, at University of Delhi

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Re: [AI] Regarding purchasing beepless call recorder fromkillermobile.

2013-05-21 Thread Surinder
Visit the www.killermobile.com and look out for their local affiliates in 
India.

I bought the license last year by paying Rs 600.
The amount was paid by way of fund transfer to  the account of one such 
local affiliate.
- Original Message - 
From: Deepak Singla deepakkumarsin...@gmail.com

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 12:30 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Regarding purchasing beepless call recorder 
fromkillermobile.




Hi
Yesterday I have bought the same from Nokia Ovi Store by making
payments through my debit card. Nokia also offers payment through your
mobile bill if you have post paid connection.

Working successfully.

On 5/21/13, Mohib Anwar Rafel mohibra...@gmail.com wrote:

if you are able to perchase from them, please let me  know. I also
tried to perchase from them but i didn't find any way to perchase
except credit card!

On 5/20/13, Surendra Salgaonkar surendra.salgaonk...@gmail.com wrote:

Dear ones,
 As somebody suggested I download beepless call recorder trial version.
Now,
how should I buy it? Because the trial period is over.
Thank you and good luck
Surendra Salgaonkar
 Phones
:+912226473918
+919867645933
 Emails.
salgaonkarconce...@rediffmail.com
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surendra.salgaon...@sbi.co.in
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M.Phil/Masters in International Law, Center for International Legal 
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JNU.
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Re: [AI] Query regarding right-centering text.

2013-05-21 Thread Shona Man
I think if the text is at right then how can it be at center? It mean
you can do only one thing at a time, how it is possible that you do
text right align too and centered also? Are you sure what you want to
do.

On 5/21/13, zameer pasha dheel...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Friend,

 Control+ R to rite aline control+L to left aline control+E to senter
 aline. if you made rite aline jaws will speak rite aline and if you
 make center aline jaws dont say rite center aline. to know this
 position in MS office you have to  press insart+ F.

 On 5/21/13, Kakarla Nageswaraiah nageswara1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear All,
 I know the commands ctrl + r to right align and ctrl + e to centre the
 selected text.  Any command for right-centering text?  For instance,  the
 last three lines of a letter needs to be right aligned and centred.
 After
 selecting the lines, if I use ctrl + r and ctrl + e, JAWS is not saying
 'Right-Centered' when I press Insert + f to confirm.
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Re: [AI] Need suggestion about OCR software

2013-05-21 Thread Shona Man
with regard to accuracy I found fine reader much better then kurzweil,
however I never used open book.

On 5/21/13, jerinjos...@gmail.com jerinjos...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear friends,

 I want to know which OCR software is better among fine reader, open book and
 Kurzwail. I know that these three use the same OCR engine. Would like to
 know the price as well.

 With best regards,

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 M: +919539510031
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Re: [AI] Urgent help needed w.r.t extra time during taking up exams at Annamalai university,

2013-05-21 Thread Shona Man
Huzoor ate ate bahut dair kar di. It mean you have done already much
delay! Friend why you didn't take any step in advance  since you were
aware of this thing? what you can do, you try to talk to university's
authority or examination branch or directly to the comptroller of
examination.

On 5/20/13, sampath raj rao sampath.4...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Friends,
Greetings of the day…
I am here again with a typical strange issue with regard to
 extra time while taking up exams.
 I am pursuing my MA in Annamalai University through Distance education
 programme.
 The previous year when I appeared for my first year papers I was not
 allowed to take extra time of even 30 minutes instead my paper was
 snatched at the end of 3rd hour even after producing the centre
 official with the copy of the G.O.s for availing extra time of 30
 minutes that was available with me at that time. The only words that
 he spelt was that he was not informed or given any instruction with
 regard to extra time for VI candidates and only scribe facility would
 be permitted.
 So this time I enquired the official of the exam centre in advance
 when I went to collect my hall ticket about the privilege of extra
 time buteven now he said the same words and thereby no extra time will
 be permitted.
 So today, I reached the study centre at Chennai as for now I can’t
 reach Chidambaram where the university is located  as it too far from
 my place and it was in this study centre at Chennai where I got
 enrolled for the course, here they replied again the same that there
 is no such privilege to VI students to avail extra time and only
 scribes can be taken for taking up the exams. When I showed them the 3
 G.O.s that I had including the recent circular that was downloaded
 from the link mailed in our AccessIndia list by one of our Learned
 Friend they replied that the G.O. has to be accepted by the University
 through the Sindigate meeting or what so ever the procedure for the
 same which  was not apparent to my perception.

 So, have any of you friends done any course through Annamalai
 University through Distance education programme, if so were you
 allowed to utilise extra time?
 What were your experience?
 Is it true that the university should accept the GO in their office?
 Or how to find whether the privilege is actually not allowed by the
 university or the entire issue is due to lack of information
 dissemination between the university and the centre officials?

 What should I do next?
 The critical part of this issue is that exams has already started
 since 19th that is yesterday…
 And also reaching through calls is of vain…

 I apologise for the lengthiness of my mail but this is to make the
 picture of the event clear…

 Awaiting  relief...

 Yours,
 S.Sampath Raj Rao.

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Re: [AI] Hindustan Times Breaking: Raped disabled woman delivers; neighbour, kin held

2013-05-21 Thread Shona Man
very serious, kill the accused.

On 5/20/13, avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hindustan Times  Srinagar, May 20, 2013
 First Published: 19:35 IST(20/5/2013) | Last Updated: 19:37 IST(20/5/2013)
 http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/Srinagar/Raped-disabled-woman-delivers-neighbour-kin-held/Article1-1063078.aspx

 Relatives and a neighbour of a 26-year-old mentally and physically
 disabled unmarried woman were detained in central Kashmir's Budgam
 district after she delivered a baby recently.


 Sub-divisional police officer (SDPO), Budgam's Khansahib town, Bashir
 Ahmad Dar, told HT that the case surfaced a few days ago when the
 parents of the girl accused the neighbour, Ghulam Muhammad War, of
 raping the disabled woman.

 War has been frequently visiting the victim's house. On April 4,
 parents observed that she was lactating. Fearing, it was a sign of
 breast cancer, the parents took her to a doctor where an ultra sound
 showed a live foetus, said SDPO Dar.


 The woman, who is very bony and frail, delivered a baby on April 11.
 The family, who is from a very lower-middle class, claims the baby was
 born dead and secretly buried it near a canal in their native Arizal
 village, 40 km away from Srinagar.

 The police investigation revealed the delivery was arranged at a house
 with the help of local maids.

 The relatives, instead of complaining the matter with the police,
 asked for compensation from the alleged rapist, who declined to pay
 later. It forced the family to approach the police eventually last
 week, said Dar.

 The police have arrested the mother, the brother and the sister-in-law
 of the victim for their role in hiding the delivery of unmarried woman
 and burial of the baby.

 The neighbour has been booked under Section 376 of the IPC for rape of
 the victim.
  We are investigating whether the baby, who after the exhumation was
 found apparently healthy, was born dead or was killed, said the
 police officer.

 The police have taken a DNA sample to match it with the alleged
 rapist. Several samples of the baby were sent for forensic
 examination to establish the cause of death, said the police officer.

  The police said it will arrest the family members in case the
 forensic report suggests the baby was killed after the birth. The
 victim has already identified War for raping her, said the police
 officer.

 Dr Zubair Saleem, a local doctor, who examined the victim said, The
 victim has no emotions. It's a gruesome crime.


 --
 Avinash Shahi
 MPhil Research Scholar
 Centre for the Study of Law and Governance
 Jawaharlal Nehru University
 New Delhi India

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Re: [AI] Query regarding right-centering text.

2013-05-21 Thread Amiyo Biswas
I am not sure if I understood your question correctly. Perhaps you want your 
text to be centered on the right half of the line. Suppose, the desired tet 
is about 2 inches long. The width of the line is 6 inches.When we 
right-align text using ctrl+r, the same text starts at 4 inches from the 
left margin. If we use ctrl+e to centre it, the text will start at 2 inches 
from the left margin.


Since the line is 6 inches wide, perhaps you want to place it at the centre 
of the right half of the line. in that case, follow these steps.


1. First centre the text.

2. Go to Format / Paragraph... submenu.

3. The first field should be Alignment. Centre should be displayed since you 
have already done it. otherwise, you can select this option here usin up or 
down arrow.


4. Tab over to the left field and enter the value 3 to make it 3 inches from 
the left margin.


5. Tab over to the Ok button and activate it.

now the text should be 3.5 inches from the left.

Hope, this helps.

With best Regards,
Amiyo Biswas
Cell: +91-9433464329

- Original Message - 
From: Kakarla Nageswaraiah nageswara1...@gmail.com

Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 3:59 AM
Subject: [AI] Query regarding right-centering text.



Dear All,
I know the commands ctrl + r to right align and ctrl + e to centre the 
selected text.  Any command for right-centering text?  For instance,  the 
last three lines of a letter needs to be right aligned and centred.  After 
selecting the lines, if I use ctrl + r and ctrl + e, JAWS is not saying 
'Right-Centered' when I press Insert + f to confirm.

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Re: [AI] Job for Computer Teacher

2013-05-21 Thread Satguru Rathi
Further to all what has been said here, the add also states that they are 
looking for female candidates only whereas, the traineees are both male and 
female. I wonder how a female would teach better than the male candidates? I 
personally know the person who has posted this and he himself is a visually 
impaired person and is currently holding that post there. Is this 
requirement of a sighted candidate an indicator of he not performing his 
duties well? Even if this is the case, NAB can always consult the 
organisations who are more experienced in tteaching computer to blind.


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-Original Message- 
From: yusuf abbasi

Sent: Monday, 20 May, 2013 12:44 PM
To: accessindia
Subject: [AI] Job for Computer Teacher

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Mobile   08010663328
09268704236
Hi Friends!
There is a job for computer teacher in National Association for the
Blind Faridabad in Haryana State Branch.
NAB Faridabad is looking for female computer teacher for teaching
visually impaired students.
NAB Faridabad conducts six months computer training for visually
impaired students.
In this training, they teach Microsoft Word, Microsoft Excel, Internet
and Windows etc.
anyone can apply except visually impaired person.
Requirements: Educational Qualification B.A.
Technical Qualification: Diploma or six months certificate etc.
Good English
Salary: 7000 to 1 and according to performance.
Contact: 08010663328
E-mail: yusuftajma...@gmail.com
Contact soon

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Re: [AI] problem in firefox 21.0

2013-05-21 Thread zameer pasha
Hi Friend,

firefox is not JAWS friendly it takes time to upload data in browser.
you do one think open run and type gmail.com wait for 10 min after
that use arrow key

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 Hi friends,

 Today I installed firefox version 21 in my laptop, but unable to
 navigate. Please assist me.

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Re: [AI] Query regarding right-centering text.

2013-05-21 Thread zameer pasha
That is not his question. he want to to rite aline and center aline at
a time. that is not posible. at all.

On 5/21/13, Amiyo Biswas amiyo.bis...@gmail.com wrote:
 I am not sure if I understood your question correctly. Perhaps you want your

 text to be centered on the right half of the line. Suppose, the desired tet

 is about 2 inches long. The width of the line is 6 inches.When we
 right-align text using ctrl+r, the same text starts at 4 inches from the
 left margin. If we use ctrl+e to centre it, the text will start at 2 inches

 from the left margin.

 Since the line is 6 inches wide, perhaps you want to place it at the centre

 of the right half of the line. in that case, follow these steps.

 1. First centre the text.

 2. Go to Format / Paragraph... submenu.

 3. The first field should be Alignment. Centre should be displayed since you

 have already done it. otherwise, you can select this option here usin up or

 down arrow.

 4. Tab over to the left field and enter the value 3 to make it 3 inches from

 the left margin.

 5. Tab over to the Ok button and activate it.

 now the text should be 3.5 inches from the left.

 Hope, this helps.

 With best Regards,
 Amiyo Biswas
 Cell: +91-9433464329

 - Original Message -
 From: Kakarla Nageswaraiah nageswara1...@gmail.com
 Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 3:59 AM
 Subject: [AI] Query regarding right-centering text.


 Dear All,
 I know the commands ctrl + r to right align and ctrl + e to centre the
 selected text.  Any command for right-centering text?  For instance,  the

 last three lines of a letter needs to be right aligned and centred.  After

 selecting the lines, if I use ctrl + r and ctrl + e, JAWS is not saying
 'Right-Centered' when I press Insert + f to confirm.
 Thanks and regards.


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Re: [AI] Book needed: wings of fire

2013-05-21 Thread Uma phago
Hi
Here goes y9ur book.

On 5/21/13, Deepak Singla deepakkumarsin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi
 Can anyone provide me the book Wings of fire.
 Thanks in advance...

 Deepak Singla
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Re: [AI] changes in EVMs

2013-05-21 Thread pavan kumar lingam
@ Sagar
i to feel the same.
then the solution would be similar  to the 1 used  in ATMs  which made
them voice  enabled and the output is only through headphones.
how ever before  ariving  at a conclusion we need more and more inputs
from our friends on the list then we can prepare  a representation
from accessindia and request our friends in Delhi  to present it in
frunt  of ECI.
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Re: [AI] Job for Computer Teacher

2013-05-21 Thread avinash shahi
Anyone can apply except visually impaired?
So that additional tasks can also be taken care of by computer
instructor. and the female the candidate the better chances of huge
donation is intended here perhaps. Believe it or not, NGOs working for
blind which have emulated corporate driven model has adopted this
gender-specific preference to voo more and more donation for
delivering services and increasing infrastructure.
Note: I am not questioning ladies ability to inculcate computer
training on an equal footing, and would have been happier if NAB
Faridabad had given livelihood opportunity to woman with blindness for
the said post.
Remember when your bread and butter and rising Petrol price is
dependent on taking donation in the name of providing services to
blind then please don't demean fellow beings by not considering them
for a post which is meant to serve their brethrens.
I've many times written on this list to guard NGOs representative to
be honest in their service delivery responsibility.
Otherwise, time is not far, parallel body like Controler and auditor
General will start auditing your financial spending and expenditure
soon.
Only conducting elections for reelection doesn't ensure credibility.
There's one of the highly valued principle of governance exists that
is, 'transparency' which is sadly lacking in most of the NGOs working
for blind beneficiaries.
This particular advertisement needs to be redesigned.
On 5/21/13, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:
 So, they should not call the post a computer instructor, rather they should
 call it a callboy/call girl

 If NAB says computer instructor but not for VI, then, NAB has forfeited all
 rights to be a so-called representative organization...

 They should take a lesson or two in modern jurisprudence which has concepts
 of reasonable accommodation and non handicapping environment well grounded.

 Actually,  NAB has been flaunting slogans like:
 Do you know blind can drive
 on their site and misleading the public at large.

 NAB India general secretary has publicly proclaimed more than once that
 reservation to disabled/VI is against principles of equality
 So, the approach is more than clear.

 Let us collectively take up cudgels  against such approach and such
 institutions


 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of Mohib Anwar Rafel
 Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 12:20 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Job for Computer Teacher

 I think this is not any kind of discrimination against visually
 challanged community. This is the endeavor to give the best so that
 the teacher could handle all odd situations which a visually
 challanged teacher cann't handle, provided that sighted teacher is
 well-grounded in assistive technology. May be that organization is
 looking someone who could do some importent work even outside the
 computer classes which can be done by a sighted person only. So don't
 blaim the organization here and treat it as in the interest of
 students.

 On 5/21/13, srikanth bolla presidentsrika...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi guys,
 This is really sad discrimination and news. I think to some extent,
 we
 are giving them the chance to underestimate visually challenge people or
 teachers. As an employer myself who is dedicated to  recruiting  disabled
 people, feel  that  visually challenged people  will not  take  active
 step
 in learning to fulfill  work role.  Most people show their disability and
 escape from work and give out en number of reasons for coming on time and
 much more.  I do understand that all visually challenged people are not
 lazy
 but most of them though. I compare visually challenged people with other
 disabilities and found that most visually challenged people are not
 active
 and never attempt to learn.  Sorry if this hurts but this is high time
 that
 we all should change ourselves and should not expect easy things and
 work.
 Work environment is always challenging irrespective of once disability.
 So
 employers will be confident once we start to show at most dedication. I
 understand various reasons being saying visually challenged people should
 not apply. For example, how can you fix power and hardware connections?
 How
 can you work on inaccessible applications while teaching? If the computer
 crashes and freezes how can you fix. These are few reasons maybe they are
 thinking. If you can do all these things, then we have to let employers
 know. my ideas are based on Personal  experience. Regards,

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of vikram babu
 Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 1:33 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Job for Computer Teacher

 Hi friends,

 This line hurts me a lot. anyone can apply except visually impaired
 person.
 
 I am really sorry if it is wrong to comment on this issue on this list.
 But

[AI] andhrajyothi's new website(telugu news paper )

2013-05-21 Thread pavan kumar lingam
Dear access Indians
This issue / problem is of more concern to all those who read Telugu
news papers in general and andhrajyothi in particular.
For the last 2 to 3 years I have been reading this (andhrajyothi)
paper daily on their website.
Recently they have launched new website which replaced the earlier 1.
In this new site it is some what difficult to read news paper and more
over all the items present in print edition are not available in their
website.
Iam willing to pay for E-paper if delivered in Unicode format because
espeak can read it only if it is in Unicode format.
Meanwhile iam planning to write  a letter to Andhrajyothi’s management
 so in spite of me alone  writing the letter it would create more
impact if more people make  representation there fore all those who
are interested  in making representation please contact me off the
list so that we can proceed further.
On the other hand write to the list directly in case if any one of you
have some other solution and if it can serve the purpose.
Thanks and regards,


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Re: [AI] Book needed: wings of fire

2013-05-21 Thread Deepak Singla
couldn't find the book
plz send it on my personal ID at deepakkumarsin...@gmail.com

Thanks
Deepak

On 5/21/13, Uma phago phago@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi
 Here goes y9ur book.

 On 5/21/13, Deepak Singla deepakkumarsin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi
 Can anyone provide me the book Wings of fire.
 Thanks in advance...

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Re: [AI] Views Invited: Legal issues in an insurance contract for people with disabilities.

2013-05-21 Thread Amar Jain
Well, both arguments seem to sustain with each other. While it is true
that people with disability do not suffer accidents due to their
disability in most of the cases, but at the same time it is also true
that out of a contract of insurance, the only profit which an insurer
makes is the premium which anyone pays provided that the event insured
never takes place. In such a case, if the cause of the event is
accident due to disability, then the risk of the insurer certainly
increases.

It is also true that each government is responsible to us for
providing infrastructure, but in practicality, it does not exist
today. So in such cases, though bodies like LIC can be made
accountable on the ground of public welfare objective, but what
happens in case of private insurance?

It is also correct to say that regulator generally do not make
distinction while enforcing any regulations, and as on date I.R.D.A.
has nothing on disability related issues in terms of regulation.

I.R.D.A. is a growing regulator, but it is not wrong to say that they
are not as receptive as the regulators like RBI and SEBI are. History
proves that.

I have two key suggestions here:

1. That whenever any disability related insurance is provided, then
fixed additional charge if any, should be deducted at the time of
processing claim, if the surveyor's report shows that the accident
took place because of the disability as a main cause. And no
additional premium should be put on the insured.

This should only apply to accidents that too while walking on road,
and in no other case. (I cannot think of any other circumstance which
could lead to accident due to disability of any kind)

2. While assessing any claim, the disability expert should be
accompanied with the surveyor so to see that there is no undue
advantage being taken by the insurance company while processing the
claim as regards the disability of the insured.

I am open to suggestions.

Regards,
-- 
Amar Jain.
Website: www.amarjain.com

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Re: [AI] Job for Computer Teacher

2013-05-21 Thread avinash shahi
And sorry for furthering this thread
But one more question has just arrived in my mind, thanks to this
unique advertisement.
Lets conduct a survey and find out, in major NGOs working for blind
what are the ratio of totally blind, partially blind and sighted as
computer instructors?
If anyone of you has this info from Delhi please share with us. and
friends from different parts of India, you also contribute then the
real finding will help us in construing this trend better.
Help us please.
And don't hesitate to share in public.
These NGOs are accountable to us.
On 5/21/13, avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Anyone can apply except visually impaired?
 So that additional tasks can also be taken care of by computer
 instructor. and the female the candidate the better chances of huge
 donation is intended here perhaps. Believe it or not, NGOs working for
 blind which have emulated corporate driven model has adopted this
 gender-specific preference to voo more and more donation for
 delivering services and increasing infrastructure.
 Note: I am not questioning ladies ability to inculcate computer
 training on an equal footing, and would have been happier if NAB
 Faridabad had given livelihood opportunity to woman with blindness for
 the said post.
 Remember when your bread and butter and rising Petrol price is
 dependent on taking donation in the name of providing services to
 blind then please don't demean fellow beings by not considering them
 for a post which is meant to serve their brethrens.
 I've many times written on this list to guard NGOs representative to
 be honest in their service delivery responsibility.
 Otherwise, time is not far, parallel body like Controler and auditor
 General will start auditing your financial spending and expenditure
 soon.
 Only conducting elections for reelection doesn't ensure credibility.
 There's one of the highly valued principle of governance exists that
 is, 'transparency' which is sadly lacking in most of the NGOs working
 for blind beneficiaries.
 This particular advertisement needs to be redesigned.
 On 5/21/13, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:
 So, they should not call the post a computer instructor, rather they
 should
 call it a callboy/call girl

 If NAB says computer instructor but not for VI, then, NAB has forfeited
 all
 rights to be a so-called representative organization...

 They should take a lesson or two in modern jurisprudence which has
 concepts
 of reasonable accommodation and non handicapping environment well
 grounded.

 Actually,  NAB has been flaunting slogans like:
 Do you know blind can drive
 on their site and misleading the public at large.

 NAB India general secretary has publicly proclaimed more than once that
 reservation to disabled/VI is against principles of equality
 So, the approach is more than clear.

 Let us collectively take up cudgels  against such approach and such
 institutions


 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of Mohib Anwar Rafel
 Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 12:20 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Job for Computer Teacher

 I think this is not any kind of discrimination against visually
 challanged community. This is the endeavor to give the best so that
 the teacher could handle all odd situations which a visually
 challanged teacher cann't handle, provided that sighted teacher is
 well-grounded in assistive technology. May be that organization is
 looking someone who could do some importent work even outside the
 computer classes which can be done by a sighted person only. So don't
 blaim the organization here and treat it as in the interest of
 students.

 On 5/21/13, srikanth bolla presidentsrika...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi guys,
 This is really sad discrimination and news. I think to some extent,
 we
 are giving them the chance to underestimate visually challenge people or
 teachers. As an employer myself who is dedicated to  recruiting
 disabled
 people, feel  that  visually challenged people  will not  take  active
 step
 in learning to fulfill  work role.  Most people show their disability
 and
 escape from work and give out en number of reasons for coming on time
 and
 much more.  I do understand that all visually challenged people are not
 lazy
 but most of them though. I compare visually challenged people with other
 disabilities and found that most visually challenged people are not
 active
 and never attempt to learn.  Sorry if this hurts but this is high time
 that
 we all should change ourselves and should not expect easy things and
 work.
 Work environment is always challenging irrespective of once disability.
 So
 employers will be confident once we start to show at most dedication. I
 understand various reasons being saying visually challenged people
 should
 not apply. For example, how can you fix power and hardware connections?
 How
 can you work on inaccessible 

Re: [AI] Job for Computer Teacher

2013-05-21 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
Yes, fundamental rights are violated.
You cannot preclude a VI from contesting for the job...
Please do have a crash course in Indian laws, if you would.


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Mohib Anwar Rafel
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 1:48 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Job for Computer Teacher

I cann't understand one point here that is there any violation of any
legal orfundamental right of visually challanged community? Why you
don't challange the appointment of various nondisabled welfare
officers and high officials who are appointed for the public
assistance of the handicapped persons? They are not aware of special
needs and all around development of disabled community. Do you
remember it is first time when a visually challanged person has been
appointed as chief commissioner for persons with disabilities. All the
time they have been appointing such persons who are not even aware of
basic legal provisions and their special treatment! Why are you people
crying so long then?
Therefore this is not matter of discrimination and infringement of
right, but yes I do agree that that the sighted teacher should be well
versed in operation of assistive technology, and I think the
organization will take care of this matter. I am of the view that
these organizations should promote employment opportunities for
disabled community first but if they have serious reservations while
doing so then we should not condemn their decisions, however either of
two should not be done at the cost of optimum learning entourage.

On 5/21/13, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:
 So, they should not call the post a computer instructor, rather they should
 call it a callboy/call girl

 If NAB says computer instructor but not for VI, then, NAB has forfeited all
 rights to be a so-called representative organization...

 They should take a lesson or two in modern jurisprudence which has concepts
 of reasonable accommodation and non handicapping environment well grounded.

 Actually,  NAB has been flaunting slogans like:
 Do you know blind can drive
 on their site and misleading the public at large.

 NAB India general secretary has publicly proclaimed more than once that
 reservation to disabled/VI is against principles of equality
 So, the approach is more than clear.

 Let us collectively take up cudgels  against such approach and such
 institutions


 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of Mohib Anwar Rafel
 Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 12:20 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Job for Computer Teacher

 I think this is not any kind of discrimination against visually
 challanged community. This is the endeavor to give the best so that
 the teacher could handle all odd situations which a visually
 challanged teacher cann't handle, provided that sighted teacher is
 well-grounded in assistive technology. May be that organization is
 looking someone who could do some importent work even outside the
 computer classes which can be done by a sighted person only. So don't
 blaim the organization here and treat it as in the interest of
 students.

 On 5/21/13, srikanth bolla presidentsrika...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi guys,
 This is really sad discrimination and news. I think to some extent,
 we
 are giving them the chance to underestimate visually challenge people or
 teachers. As an employer myself who is dedicated to  recruiting  disabled
 people, feel  that  visually challenged people  will not  take  active
 step
 in learning to fulfill  work role.  Most people show their disability and
 escape from work and give out en number of reasons for coming on time and
 much more.  I do understand that all visually challenged people are not
 lazy
 but most of them though. I compare visually challenged people with other
 disabilities and found that most visually challenged people are not
 active
 and never attempt to learn.  Sorry if this hurts but this is high time
 that
 we all should change ourselves and should not expect easy things and
 work.
 Work environment is always challenging irrespective of once disability.
 So
 employers will be confident once we start to show at most dedication. I
 understand various reasons being saying visually challenged people should
 not apply. For example, how can you fix power and hardware connections?
 How
 can you work on inaccessible applications while teaching? If the computer
 crashes and freezes how can you fix. These are few reasons maybe they are
 thinking. If you can do all these things, then we have to let employers
 know. my ideas are based on Personal  experience. Regards,

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of vikram babu
 Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 1:33 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Job for 

Re: [AI] Job for Computer Teacher

2013-05-21 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
and, to set legal records right,
Even though fundamental rights are at present enforced only against art12 
entities, but its ambit has ever been expanding, and the day is not far off 
when NGOs receiving substantial aid from government would fall into the ambit 
of article 12...


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Asudani, Rajesh
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 4:23 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Job for Computer Teacher

Yes, fundamental rights are violated.
You cannot preclude a VI from contesting for the job...
Please do have a crash course in Indian laws, if you would.


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Mohib Anwar Rafel
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 1:48 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Job for Computer Teacher

I cann't understand one point here that is there any violation of any
legal orfundamental right of visually challanged community? Why you
don't challange the appointment of various nondisabled welfare
officers and high officials who are appointed for the public
assistance of the handicapped persons? They are not aware of special
needs and all around development of disabled community. Do you
remember it is first time when a visually challanged person has been
appointed as chief commissioner for persons with disabilities. All the
time they have been appointing such persons who are not even aware of
basic legal provisions and their special treatment! Why are you people
crying so long then?
Therefore this is not matter of discrimination and infringement of
right, but yes I do agree that that the sighted teacher should be well
versed in operation of assistive technology, and I think the
organization will take care of this matter. I am of the view that
these organizations should promote employment opportunities for
disabled community first but if they have serious reservations while
doing so then we should not condemn their decisions, however either of
two should not be done at the cost of optimum learning entourage.

On 5/21/13, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:
 So, they should not call the post a computer instructor, rather they should
 call it a callboy/call girl

 If NAB says computer instructor but not for VI, then, NAB has forfeited all
 rights to be a so-called representative organization...

 They should take a lesson or two in modern jurisprudence which has concepts
 of reasonable accommodation and non handicapping environment well grounded.

 Actually,  NAB has been flaunting slogans like:
 Do you know blind can drive
 on their site and misleading the public at large.

 NAB India general secretary has publicly proclaimed more than once that
 reservation to disabled/VI is against principles of equality
 So, the approach is more than clear.

 Let us collectively take up cudgels  against such approach and such
 institutions


 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of Mohib Anwar Rafel
 Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 12:20 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Job for Computer Teacher

 I think this is not any kind of discrimination against visually
 challanged community. This is the endeavor to give the best so that
 the teacher could handle all odd situations which a visually
 challanged teacher cann't handle, provided that sighted teacher is
 well-grounded in assistive technology. May be that organization is
 looking someone who could do some importent work even outside the
 computer classes which can be done by a sighted person only. So don't
 blaim the organization here and treat it as in the interest of
 students.

 On 5/21/13, srikanth bolla presidentsrika...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi guys,
 This is really sad discrimination and news. I think to some extent,
 we
 are giving them the chance to underestimate visually challenge people or
 teachers. As an employer myself who is dedicated to  recruiting  disabled
 people, feel  that  visually challenged people  will not  take  active
 step
 in learning to fulfill  work role.  Most people show their disability and
 escape from work and give out en number of reasons for coming on time and
 much more.  I do understand that all visually challenged people are not
 lazy
 but most of them though. I compare visually challenged people with other
 disabilities and found that most visually challenged people are not
 active
 and never attempt to learn.  Sorry if this hurts but this is high time
 that
 we all should change ourselves and should not expect easy things and
 work.
 Work environment is always challenging irrespective of once disability.
 So
 employers will be confident once we start to show at most dedication. I
 understand various reasons being saying visually challenged people should
 not apply. For example, how can you fix power and hardware 

Re: [AI] Book needed: wings of fire

2013-05-21 Thread RAMAKANT SINGH CHANDEL
On 5/21/13, Deepak Singla deepakkumarsin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi
 Can anyone provide me the book Wings of fire.
 Thanks in advance...

 Deepak Singla
 --
 Regards

 (Deepak Kumar Singla)

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Hello Deepak,

You may contact for this book to Ram Nath Batra Digital Talking Book
Library, National Association for the Blind, R K Puram, new delhi-22.
This book is available in E-Text there.

With Regards,
-- 
RAMAKANT SINGH CHANDEL
N.T.P.C. Limited, Sipat
(A Govt. Of India Maharatna Enterprise)
Bilaspur (Chhattisgarh)
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Re: [AI] Book needed: wings of fire

2013-05-21 Thread RAMAKANT SINGH CHANDEL
On 5/21/13, RAMAKANT SINGH CHANDEL rschandel...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 5/21/13, Deepak Singla deepakkumarsin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi
 Can anyone provide me the book Wings of fire.
 Thanks in advance...

 Deepak Singla
 --
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 (Deepak Kumar Singla)

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 Hello Deepak,

 You may contact for this book to Ram Nath Batra Digital Talking Book
 Library, National Association for the Blind, R K Puram, new delhi-22.
 This book is available in E-Text there.

 With Regards,
 --
 RAMAKANT SINGH CHANDEL
 N.T.P.C. Limited, Sipat
 (A Govt. Of India Maharatna Enterprise)
 Bilaspur (Chhattisgarh)
 E-Mail :
 rschandel...@gmail.com

Dear Deepak,

In this connection I want to add an information that if you want to
purchase the braille edition of The Wings of Fire written by Shri
A.P.J. Abdul Kalam, you may contact to A.I.C.B. Braille Press, Rohini,
Delhi-85. This book is available there in 3 Braille volumes and Price
is Rs. 282.

With Regards,
-- 
RAMAKANT SINGH CHANDEL
N.T.P.C. Limited, Sipat
(A Govt. Of India Maharatna Enterprise)
Bilaspur (Chhattisgarh)
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Re: [AI] orjent help regarding taking the snap of screen please!

2013-05-21 Thread Sunil Sangtani.
screenshot reader in fine reader  can be used for the purpose. .
its a third party application and it is  shareware.

On 5/19/13, raju singh bidh...@gmail.com wrote:
 respected friends,

 i am having a big problem in my computer. and expecting help from you all.

 in windows xp or previous, taking the snap of screen was farely easy
 step as if we want to take a snap, we just had to press printscreen or
 alt+printscreen from our keyboard, and paste this snap on the paint
 program and save. now in windows 7, i am having a problem, as i am not
 be able to take a snap of any screen. this above keystroke is no
 longer working.  as in practical assignment, we have to display step
 by step procedure along with the snap. in windows 7, there is a
 program include by default known as snipping tools   which can do
 the job of taking snap of picture. but the main problem i am facing is
 that i am not being able to use this program from the keyboard. so, i
 was wandering that is there any third party software which can do the
 same job and can also be used from keyboard? or if any one know the
 procedure regarding taking snap of computer screen with sneeping tool
 without using mouse, i would be very grateful, as i have to submit my
 practical assignment on 26 may.
 --
 regards,
 raaju singh
  10th mile power house, p.o kalimpong, dist. darjeeling, 734301 skype
 is raaju127 and facebook is raaju12

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[AI] UPSC Political Science latest Book Needed

2013-05-21 Thread avinash shahi
Dear all

I need any quality Political Science book \which is widely read while
preparing for UPSC. Please help me at the earliest. I've to read it
for UGC NET exam.Send it soon.
Thanking in anticipation of the Book.
-- 
Avinash Shahi
MPhil Research Scholar
Centre for the Study of Law and Governance
Jawaharlal Nehru University
New Delhi India

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Re: [AI] Views Invited: Legal issues in an insurance contract for people with disabilities.

2013-05-21 Thread Kotian, H P
Dear Amar
Pl find my comments with HK. In a new line.
Regards
Harish Kotian


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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Amar Jain
Sent: 21 May 2013 16:02
To: accessindia
Subject: Re: [AI] Views Invited: Legal issues in an insurance contract for 
people with disabilities.

Well, both arguments seem to sustain with each other. While it is true
that people with disability do not suffer accidents due to their
disability in most of the cases, but at the same time it is also true
that out of a contract of insurance, the only profit which an insurer
makes is the premium which anyone pays provided that the event insured
never takes place. In such a case, if the cause of the event is
accident due to disability, then the risk of the insurer certainly
increases.

It is also true that each government is responsible to us for
providing infrastructure, but in practicality, it does not exist
today. So in such cases, though bodies like LIC can be made
accountable on the ground of public welfare objective, but what
happens in case of private insurance?

It is also correct to say that regulator generally do not make
distinction while enforcing any regulations, and as on date I.R.D.A.
has nothing on disability related issues in terms of regulation.

I.R.D.A. is a growing regulator, but it is not wrong to say that they
are not as receptive as the regulators like RBI and SEBI are. History
proves that.

I have two key suggestions here:

1. That whenever any disability related insurance is provided, then
fixed additional charge if any, should be deducted at the time of
processing claim, if the surveyor's report shows that the accident
took place because of the disability as a main cause. And no
additional premium should be put on the insured.

This should only apply to accidents that too while walking on road,
and in no other case. (I cannot think of any other circumstance which
could lead to accident due to disability of any kind)

HK. Internationally speaking, the disabled enjoy the first right to way. When a 
blind person steps on to the road the traffic has to stop hence, the onus of 
safety falls on the motorist. Hence, still no justification of charging extra 
premium. If the victim being blind was accompanied or without a cane, the 
motorist would have no means to know the victim is having visual disability, in 
this case an exception can be made in grounds of fairness.
 

2. While assessing any claim, the disability expert should be
accompanied with the surveyor so to see that there is no undue
advantage being taken by the insurance company while processing the
claim as regards the disability of the insured.
HK. Now, how do we define disability expert? Anyone can claim expertise and it 
would get wattered down.

I am open to suggestions.

Regards,
-- 
Amar Jain.
Website: www.amarjain.com

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[AI] Eyeway alerts

2013-05-21 Thread Eyeway Helpdesk
Hello Everyone!

Today's Eyeway Alerts are:-

1 post for Low Vision as Assistant Manager (HR) in National Buildings 
Construction Corporation Limited. Qualification is Full time MBA/MSW/ two years 
Post Graduate  Diploma with 60% aggregate marks  Specialization in HRM as 
major subject from Government recognized University/Institute. Selected 
candidates will be required to serve in any part of India or abroad as per the 
discretion/requirement of NBCC. Last date 1st June. Apply online. More at 
http://www.eyeway.org/?q=jobs  or 18 May employment News page 33



1 post for PwD-OBC (Low Vision/HH/OH) as Mazdoor in Supply Depot ASC, 
Bangalore. Qualification: Matriculation or equivalent. The post is subject to 
All India Transfer Liability and Field service liability rules. Last date 4th 
June. More at http://www.eyeway.org/?q=jobs  or 18 May employment News page 39
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Re: [AI] Job for Computer Teacher

2013-05-21 Thread zoher kheriwala
Here I am unable to understand that the educational colification  is B.A. 
Why not graduate in any other stream? like b.com, B.S.C. or Bachelor in 
computer applications?
secondly for the first time I have seen the reservation for the abeled 
bodied so called main stream peoples that too by the institution ment for 
the wellfare of blind comunity!
Now the blind peoples are emploied to serve the ssighted society, then why 
not blind person can serve blind students?
The word hirts me any one can apply accept blind does that mean that are 
we more disabled then mentally challenged peoples? (with due respect to 
them).
For my curiosity, If Hearringly impaired or mute person is emploied then how 
they will teach VI.

zoher kheriwala taheri menswear mumbai. skype id zoher.kheriwala
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From: Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 4:27 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Job for Computer Teacher



and, to set legal records right,
Even though fundamental rights are at present enforced only against art12 
entities, but its ambit has ever been expanding, and the day is not far 
off when NGOs receiving substantial aid from government would fall into 
the ambit of article 12...



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Behalf Of Asudani, Rajesh

Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 4:23 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
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Yes, fundamental rights are violated.
You cannot preclude a VI from contesting for the job...
Please do have a crash course in Indian laws, if you would.


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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Mohib Anwar Rafel

Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 1:48 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Job for Computer Teacher

I cann't understand one point here that is there any violation of any
legal orfundamental right of visually challanged community? Why you
don't challange the appointment of various nondisabled welfare
officers and high officials who are appointed for the public
assistance of the handicapped persons? They are not aware of special
needs and all around development of disabled community. Do you
remember it is first time when a visually challanged person has been
appointed as chief commissioner for persons with disabilities. All the
time they have been appointing such persons who are not even aware of
basic legal provisions and their special treatment! Why are you people
crying so long then?
Therefore this is not matter of discrimination and infringement of
right, but yes I do agree that that the sighted teacher should be well
versed in operation of assistive technology, and I think the
organization will take care of this matter. I am of the view that
these organizations should promote employment opportunities for
disabled community first but if they have serious reservations while
doing so then we should not condemn their decisions, however either of
two should not be done at the cost of optimum learning entourage.

On 5/21/13, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:
So, they should not call the post a computer instructor, rather they 
should

call it a callboy/call girl

If NAB says computer instructor but not for VI, then, NAB has forfeited 
all

rights to be a so-called representative organization...

They should take a lesson or two in modern jurisprudence which has 
concepts
of reasonable accommodation and non handicapping environment well 
grounded.


Actually,  NAB has been flaunting slogans like:
Do you know blind can drive
on their site and misleading the public at large.

NAB India general secretary has publicly proclaimed more than once that
reservation to disabled/VI is against principles of equality
So, the approach is more than clear.

Let us collectively take up cudgels  against such approach and such
institutions


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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf

Of Mohib Anwar Rafel
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 12:20 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Job for Computer Teacher

I think this is not any kind of discrimination against visually
challanged community. This is the endeavor to give the best so that
the teacher could handle all odd situations which a visually
challanged teacher cann't handle, provided that sighted teacher is
well-grounded in assistive technology. May be that organization is
looking someone who could do some importent work even outside the
computer classes which can be done by a sighted person only. So don't
blaim the organization here and treat it as in the interest of
students.

On 5/21/13, srikanth bolla presidentsrika...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi guys,
This is really sad discrimination and news. I think to some extent,
we
are giving them the chance to underestimate visually challenge people or
teachers. As 

[AI] re/ w.r.t taking up exams with extra time at Annamalai university,

2013-05-21 Thread sampath raj rao
Hi Shona Man,
   Ya what you say is right, but I like to add some more stuff which I
didnt say due to my writing was lenghtening in the previous mail...
 Last year when I was not allowed to avail extra time, I went
and gave a copy of the G.O.s to the officials at the study centre
informing them of the issue that I was facing during taking exams at
the centre and requested them to do the needful to avoid such
instances later. During December exams, I was allowed to avail extra
time by the exam centre official there then of which I felt that the
problem is resolved.
But this time when I asked about the same, the centre official of this
exams denied of which I approached the centre again where they said
what I wrote in my previous mail.

Is anyone else taking up exams currently at Annamalai university? plz
say whats at your ends...

Yours,
S.Sampath Raj Rao.

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[AI] New technique lets blind people locate objects like bats

2013-05-21 Thread Nilesh Bendre
New technique lets blind people locate objects like bats

PTI 

London, May 21:   

Blind and visually impaired people have the potential to use echolocation -
a technique similar to that used by bats and dolphins - to determine the
location of an object, according to new research.

 

Researchers from the University of Southampton examined how hearing, and
particularly the hearing of echoes, could help blind people with spatial
awareness and navigation.

 

The study also examined the possible effects of hearing impairment and how
to optimise echolocation ability in order to help improve the independence
and quality of life of people with visual impairments.

 

Researchers conducted a series of experiments with sighted and blind human
listeners, using a 'virtual auditory space' technique, to investigate the
effects of the distance and orientation of a reflective object on ability to
identify the right-versus-left position of the object.

 

They used sounds with different bandwidths and durations (from 10-400
milliseconds) as well as various audio manipulations to investigate which
aspects of the sounds were important.

 

We wanted to determine unambiguously whether blind people, and perhaps even
sighted people, can use echoes from an object to determine roughly where the
object is located.

 

We also wanted to figure out what factors facilitate and restrict people's
abilities to use echoes for this purpose in order to know how to enhance
ability in the real world, Dr Daniel Rowan, lead author of the study, said.

 

The results showed that both sighted and blind people with good hearing,
even if completely inexperienced with echolocation, showed the potential to
use echoes to tell where objects are.

 

Researchers also found that hearing high-frequency sounds (above 2 kHz) is
required for good performance, and so common forms of hearing impairment
will probably cause major problems.

 

Some people are better at this than others, and being blind doesn't
automatically confer good echolocation ability, though we don't yet know
why. Nevertheless, ability probably gets even better with extensive
experience and feedback.

 

We also found that our ability to use echoes to locate an object gets
rapidly worse with increasing distance from the object, especially when the
object is not directly facing us.

 

While our experiments purposely removed any influence of head movement,
doing so might help extend ability to farther distances, Rowan added.

 

The knowledge gained from this study will help researchers to develop
training programmes and assistive devices for blind people and sighted
people in low-vision situations.

 

The study was published in the journal Hearing Research. 

 

Source :
http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/news/new-technique-lets-blind-people-loc
ate-objects-like-bats/article4736159.ece?css=print

 

Regards, 

Nilesh  

 

 

 

 

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Re: [AI] Job for Computer Teacher

2013-05-21 Thread Himanshu Sahu
Dear Zoher,
May be the qualification B.A. is fixed keeping in mind any particular
person whom they have already decided to employ. And the for the sake
of establishing the genuineness of recruitment, this fake
advertisement is published!

Well, this is an old and very effective method applied by peoples and
organisations, government departments etc., for benefitting their near
and dear once.


On 5/20/13, yusuf abbasi yusuftajma...@gmail.com wrote:
 --
 Mobile   08010663328
 09268704236
 Hi Friends!
 There is a job for computer teacher in National Association for the
 Blind Faridabad in Haryana State Branch.
 NAB Faridabad is looking for female computer teacher for teaching
 visually impaired students.
 NAB Faridabad conducts six months computer training for visually
 impaired students.
 In this training, they teach Microsoft Word, Microsoft Excel, Internet
 and Windows etc.
 anyone can apply except visually impaired person.
 Requirements: Educational Qualification B.A.
 Technical Qualification: Diploma or six months certificate etc.
 Good English
 Salary: 7000 to 1 and according to performance.
 Contact: 08010663328
 E-mail: yusuftajma...@gmail.com
 Contact soon

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[AI] book needed

2013-05-21 Thread sooraj ms
hi my dear beloved friends, please anyone provide me the book the
jock by milan kundera. its very urgent..

with regards sooraj m.s

-- 
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skype: sooraj.surag
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Re: [AI] need your help regarding latest skype virsion 6.3

2013-05-21 Thread nitin patel
yes dear friend.
i understood and also tried.
and it is working nice.
thanks for that.

On 5/20/13, inamuddin inamuddi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear friend, do the following.
 1.
 Makesure that you have the latest jaws script for latest skype.
 2.
 Press alt key then down ero to profile submenue then right ero and two times

 down ero press enter there.
 Now press rute to jaws PC curser and go to sho full profile focus on S of
 show full profile and press left mouse key.
 Now the full page is ready for your editing.
 Hope you will understand it.
 With regards from Inamuddin with the skype id: charlsdarwin1

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 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 2:56 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] need your help regarding latest skype virsion 6.3


 even i also have same problem.
 i also cannot use g w connect because of facebook.
 any nvda user?
 can you share any idea?
 will nvda read the options of edit profile in latest skype?

 On 5/11/13, Sameer sala...@aim.com wrote:

 Dear Friend,

 Try using GW Connect to logon to Skype  change mood settings.

 Regards
 Mr. Sameer Latey
 Mumbai, India
 - Original Message -
 From: nitin patel patelnit...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Cc: keyboardusers keyboardus...@googlegroups.com; aktrust
 aktr...@googlegroups.com; sayeverything
 sayeveryth...@sayeverything.org
 Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 4:02 PM
 Subject: [AI] need your help regarding latest skype virsion 6.3


 hi all,
 as subject lines,
 i am faceing problem in latest skype virsion 6.3
 jaws is not reading any option in edit profile in skype menu.
 and there for i am not able to change mood in skype.
 i am useing win7 and jaws 14.
 and screept 732.
 please let me know if you have any solution.
 with kind regards,

 nitin patel
 computer teacher and lab incharge at
 blind school gandhinagar gujarat.
 cell:
 +91 9725661243
 skype:
 patelnitind

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Re: [AI] Regarding Internet Download Manager

2013-05-21 Thread nitin patel
conversion is not possible in all formet.
but you can of course download vidios via i d m.
i will help you if you need regarding this if you want.
with kind regards

nitin patel.
computer teacher at
blind school gandhinagar gujarat.
cell:
+91 9725661243
skype:
patelnitind

On 5/19/13, Sneha nair snehanai...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello friends, greetings.

 As the subject says, I have a doubt regarding IDM. Can we download
 videos using the software? As I have not used it before, please
 explain how to install the software and download files. Particularly,
 I need information about downloading video files and their convertion
 into audio formats.

 With regards,
 Sneha.

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Re: [AI] Job for Computer Teacher

2013-05-21 Thread Zujar Shabbir Kanchwala
I fail to understand why people from the VI community itself are
trying to establish legimacy of the organization publishing such a
discrimitory advertisement. Why do some of us want to believe that
every such initiative is genuine?

I am into software development for some time now and have been a
trainer for sighted and visually challenged people in different
setups. The training centers generally hire hardware and networking
guys to troubleshoot and handle such issues. These are neither
supposed to be looked into by trainers, nor do they have sufficient
access and privileges to do so. A trainer is supposed to conduct
theory and practical sessions, review course content, conduct tests
and assess performance, guide students to complete assignments,
provide technical assistance, solve queries and doubts raissed by
students, maintain attendance and general discipline, wat other work
is he/she expected to do?

Some of us believe that all VI do not perform well in a corporate
environment. Let me and the list members know if all sighted people
are at par. Everyone is good at some things and needs to improve on
others. We need to understand that it is not at all necessary that if
one VI can do something then all VI can do it or if one VI cannot do
something then all VI cannot. Everyone can perform according to his
abilities, education, environment, encouragement, determination,
motivation and several other factors.

We may not have chhallenged appointment of people on various posts in
the past but awareness is the key. At least now that we are aware that
something is unjust and against the interests of our fellow job
seekers, we should support them. We cannot go on accepting any such
discrimination without challenging it if we think of making the
society inclusive.

Lastly, I'm sorry for the typos in the previous posting as I sent it
using my phone while travelling.

On 5/21/13, Himanshu Sahu sahu.himanshu2...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Zoher,
 May be the qualification B.A. is fixed keeping in mind any particular
 person whom they have already decided to employ. And the for the sake
 of establishing the genuineness of recruitment, this fake
 advertisement is published!

 Well, this is an old and very effective method applied by peoples and
 organisations, government departments etc., for benefitting their near
 and dear once.


 On 5/20/13, yusuf abbasi yusuftajma...@gmail.com wrote:
 --
 Mobile   08010663328
 09268704236
 Hi Friends!
 There is a job for computer teacher in National Association for the
 Blind Faridabad in Haryana State Branch.
 NAB Faridabad is looking for female computer teacher for teaching
 visually impaired students.
 NAB Faridabad conducts six months computer training for visually
 impaired students.
 In this training, they teach Microsoft Word, Microsoft Excel, Internet
 and Windows etc.
 anyone can apply except visually impaired person.
 Requirements: Educational Qualification B.A.
 Technical Qualification: Diploma or six months certificate etc.
 Good English
 Salary: 7000 to 1 and according to performance.
 Contact: 08010663328
 E-mail: yusuftajma...@gmail.com
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[AI] Suitable distance learning institute for VI

2013-05-21 Thread Kiran Baug
Dear Friends,

One of my friend is asking about suitable distance learning institute
for VI from where we can get scanned notes or online notes to study
for post graduation or MBA

please share

Thanks and regards
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Re: [AI] Job for Computer Teacher

2013-05-21 Thread Mohib Anwar Rafel
Mr Asudani please read your previous message, which reads as
So, they should not call the post a computer instructor, rather they
should call it a callboy/call girl and then
Yes, fundamental rights are violated. You cannot preclude a VI from
contesting for the job

According to you I need a crash course in Indian laws, for your kind
information I have already completed my 5 year law degree in Indian
laws and currently pursuing master of laws thats too in Indian laws
here at the top university of India, however, this is other thing that
I have already completed M.Phil in international law.
Tell me one thing how many days gone, you have not studied
constitutional law? However you have corrected your mistake in very
next message because you wrote your above mentioned message in hurry
and with out giving any second thought that what do you want to write!
I think you need to refer Article 12 of Indian constitution which
defines that which enctities are states and against whom fundamental
rights can be claimed. So you are a supreme court judge here who is
claiming that scope of Article 12 is expanding and such agencies
should also be included under the ambit of Article 12 so that Article
13(2) could be invoked!
Prove that these private organizations can be covered under the head
of states, I asure you I will go to Delhi High court under a petition
against these private organizations.

As you might be aware that most of the fundamental rights, in case
these have been violated, are claimed against the state and its
instrumentality and not against the private bodies. Article 12 has
defined that what can be included under the state.
the state include, the government and parliament of india, the govt
and legislature of the state, all local authorities and other
authorities. the action of any of these can be challanged in high
court  or in supreme court.
The term other authorities, has not been defined, however supreme
court has developed the concept of instrumentalities of the state to
make it clear.

Here the test which could determine the nature of instrumentality is
funding and control, such as whether major or entire share capital is
held by the govt. is govt is involved in carrying the function and
making the policies?
Is the administration of the body in the hands of the directors
appointed by the government and are they subject to government control
in the discharge of their functions? Whether the operation of the
corporation is an important public function closely related to
governmental functions?
A private educational institution, even if it is recognised by, or
affiliated to, a university, cannot be regarded as an instrumentality
of the government for purposes of Article 12. What is necessary here
that the control of functions of the authority, the government should
be in a position to give directions to the authority to function in a
particular manner .
so finally in various cases the court has now laid down the principles
that The question in each case would be-whether in the light of the
cumulative facts as established, the body is financially, functionally
and administratively dominated by or under the control of the
government. Such control must be particular to the body in question
and must be pervasive. If this is found then the body is a state
within Article 12, On the other hand, when the control is merely
regulatory whether under statute or otherwise, it would not serve to
make the body a state.


So Mr Asudani, explain here that whether any fundamental right of any
visually impaired has been infringed, I hope you remember your
constitutional law classes, if you have attended , and I hope you
attended those.
You are respectable member but I am surprised that how can you write
this foul language that it should be called as post of call boy or
call girl? Do you have some privy animosity with the NAB general
secratary?

@Himanshu, do you consider that this private organization is under an
obligation to show that they have genuin appointment? Let me tell you
they are not answerable to your lordship. I think that it has all
right even to appoint a person even with out advertisement if they
have in their mind a most suitable candidate, therefore don't follow
your whimsical persuasion. Why is there such a hue and cry? better
apply your steam at the place where visually challanged community
really need to be dispensed!



On 5/21/13, Zujar Shabbir Kanchwala zujarbri...@gmail.com wrote:
 I fail to understand why people from the VI community itself are
 trying to establish legimacy of the organization publishing such a
 discrimitory advertisement. Why do some of us want to believe that
 every such initiative is genuine?

 I am into software development for some time now and have been a
 trainer for sighted and visually challenged people in different
 setups. The training centers generally hire hardware and networking
 guys to troubleshoot and handle such issues. These are neither
 supposed to be 

Re: [AI] Job for Computer Teacher

2013-05-21 Thread Mahesh S. Panicker
Well, I wouldn't want to get into the legal aspects of the issue. But
for the disability rights movement as such, for the disability
collective, this particular ad is a matter of significant moral
affront, especially so when we consider that it has come from an
organization that is said to be working for the visually challenged.
The language is offensive and crude, and it most certainly is
exclusivist. They might want the selected candidate to multitask,
perform other responsibilities other than computer training. A
visually challenged person may or may not be able to meet all such
responsibilities, as could be the case with any other candidate. They
could have selected someone who would have been able to take up the
responsibilities they wanted, whether visually challenged or not. But
the insensitive language, and the crude implications can, and should
be questioned, regardless of the legal dimension. I think its an
ethical question, a moral question. It would be good if there could be
some legal backing in challenging this obnoxious act, but that is a
secondary concern.

On 5/22/13, Mohib Anwar Rafel mohibra...@gmail.com wrote:
 Mr Asudani please read your previous message, which reads as
 So, they should not call the post a computer instructor, rather they
 should call it a callboy/call girl and then
 Yes, fundamental rights are violated. You cannot preclude a VI from
 contesting for the job

 According to you I need a crash course in Indian laws, for your kind
 information I have already completed my 5 year law degree in Indian
 laws and currently pursuing master of laws thats too in Indian laws
 here at the top university of India, however, this is other thing that
 I have already completed M.Phil in international law.
 Tell me one thing how many days gone, you have not studied
 constitutional law? However you have corrected your mistake in very
 next message because you wrote your above mentioned message in hurry
 and with out giving any second thought that what do you want to write!
 I think you need to refer Article 12 of Indian constitution which
 defines that which enctities are states and against whom fundamental
 rights can be claimed. So you are a supreme court judge here who is
 claiming that scope of Article 12 is expanding and such agencies
 should also be included under the ambit of Article 12 so that Article
 13(2) could be invoked!
 Prove that these private organizations can be covered under the head
 of states, I asure you I will go to Delhi High court under a petition
 against these private organizations.

 As you might be aware that most of the fundamental rights, in case
 these have been violated, are claimed against the state and its
 instrumentality and not against the private bodies. Article 12 has
 defined that what can be included under the state.
 the state include, the government and parliament of india, the govt
 and legislature of the state, all local authorities and other
 authorities. the action of any of these can be challanged in high
 court  or in supreme court.
 The term other authorities, has not been defined, however supreme
 court has developed the concept of instrumentalities of the state to
 make it clear.

 Here the test which could determine the nature of instrumentality is
 funding and control, such as whether major or entire share capital is
 held by the govt. is govt is involved in carrying the function and
 making the policies?
 Is the administration of the body in the hands of the directors
 appointed by the government and are they subject to government control
 in the discharge of their functions? Whether the operation of the
 corporation is an important public function closely related to
 governmental functions?
 A private educational institution, even if it is recognised by, or
 affiliated to, a university, cannot be regarded as an instrumentality
 of the government for purposes of Article 12. What is necessary here
 that the control of functions of the authority, the government should
 be in a position to give directions to the authority to function in a
 particular manner .
 so finally in various cases the court has now laid down the principles
 that The question in each case would be-whether in the light of the
 cumulative facts as established, the body is financially, functionally
 and administratively dominated by or under the control of the
 government. Such control must be particular to the body in question
 and must be pervasive. If this is found then the body is a state
 within Article 12, On the other hand, when the control is merely
 regulatory whether under statute or otherwise, it would not serve to
 make the body a state.


 So Mr Asudani, explain here that whether any fundamental right of any
 visually impaired has been infringed, I hope you remember your
 constitutional law classes, if you have attended , and I hope you
 attended those.
 You are respectable member but I am surprised that how can you write
 this foul language that it 

Re: [AI] Regarding Internet Download Manager

2013-05-21 Thread sooraj ms
hello pattel ji, i need ur help to download vidios via IDM. please
post the step by step instruction.

   with regards, sooraj m.s

On 5/21/13, nitin patel patelnit...@gmail.com wrote:
 conversion is not possible in all formet.
 but you can of course download vidios via i d m.
 i will help you if you need regarding this if you want.
 with kind regards

 nitin patel.
 computer teacher at
 blind school gandhinagar gujarat.
 cell:
 +91 9725661243
 skype:
 patelnitind

 On 5/19/13, Sneha nair snehanai...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello friends, greetings.

 As the subject says, I have a doubt regarding IDM. Can we download
 videos using the software? As I have not used it before, please
 explain how to install the software and download files. Particularly,
 I need information about downloading video files and their convertion
 into audio formats.

 With regards,
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[AI] new advertisement for the post of computer teacher

2013-05-21 Thread yusuf abbasi
-- 
Mobile   08010663328
09268704236
Hi Friends!
National Association for the Blind Faridabad Haryana State Branch is
looking for computer teacher.
NAB Faridabad has decided to select visually impaired as a computer teacher.
NAB Faridabad has already a visually impaired computer teacher and he
is permanent teacher. NAB always determines to join visually impaired
person but if NAB does not get suitable person then any physical
challenged person can apply for this job.
Requirements are same
1. B.A.
2. Certificate or Diploma in computer
3. Good English
Salary 7000 to 1 or according to performance.
Contact: 08010663328
E-mail: yusuftajma...@gmail.com
 contact soon
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Re: [AI] Regarding Internet Download Manager

2013-05-21 Thread Sneha nair
Yes, even I need help to download videos using IDM. Especially, how to
download files alone without having to download it as a complete web
page?
Thank you very much in advance!

With regards,
Sneha.

On 22/05/2013, sooraj ms mssoor...@gmail.com wrote:
 hello pattel ji, i need ur help to download vidios via IDM. please
 post the step by step instruction.

with regards, sooraj m.s

 On 5/21/13, nitin patel patelnit...@gmail.com wrote:
 conversion is not possible in all formet.
 but you can of course download vidios via i d m.
 i will help you if you need regarding this if you want.
 with kind regards

 nitin patel.
 computer teacher at
 blind school gandhinagar gujarat.
 cell:
 +91 9725661243
 skype:
 patelnitind

 On 5/19/13, Sneha nair snehanai...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello friends, greetings.

 As the subject says, I have a doubt regarding IDM. Can we download
 videos using the software? As I have not used it before, please
 explain how to install the software and download files. Particularly,
 I need information about downloading video files and their convertion
 into audio formats.

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[AI] Regarding income tax

2013-05-21 Thread zameer pasha
Hi Friends,

I want to know that visually impaired also have to pay income tax? If
not suppose to. Please post Circular on Access india or my mail id
zameerpash...@gmail.com I want Circular on income tax for visually
impaired. One of my friend in his company they takeing 2% from his
salarry. He wanted to know this. Not only my friend company it's all
companys where visually impaireds are working in Indian companys
everyone is facing this problem. Let all visually impaireds aware of
this.

-- 
Regards

Thanking you

zameerpash...@gmail.com
dheel...@gmail.com

9036482329

Reality of life:
Everyone is good to you till you expect nothing from them and you are
too good to them only till you fulfill their expectations.

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[AI] Moderator: RE: new advertisement for the post of computer teacher

2013-05-21 Thread Kotian, H P
All

The issue has now come to rest with the revision of the advertisement. It is 
very important to be ever vigilant on breach of right and self respect.
I suppose it would be necessary to follow through and ensure the process of 
equity is maintained in the process of recruitment in this instance.

Let us now close this thread. It had kicked off a lot of dust.

Harish Kotian

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
yusuf abbasi
Sent: 22 May 2013 08:25
To: accessindia
Subject: [AI] new advertisement for the post of computer teacher

-- 
Mobile   08010663328
09268704236
Hi Friends!
National Association for the Blind Faridabad Haryana State Branch is
looking for computer teacher.
NAB Faridabad has decided to select visually impaired as a computer teacher.
NAB Faridabad has already a visually impaired computer teacher and he
is permanent teacher. NAB always determines to join visually impaired
person but if NAB does not get suitable person then any physical
challenged person can apply for this job.
Requirements are same
1. B.A.
2. Certificate or Diploma in computer
3. Good English
Salary 7000 to 1 or according to performance.
Contact: 08010663328
E-mail: yusuftajma...@gmail.com
 contact soon
best of luck

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Re: [AI] Job for Computer Teacher

2013-05-21 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
A lawyer who is merely a lawyer is a like popper fish stuck up in a pond.
Granted that current constructions of article 12 are too narrow and may not 
include NGOs, but it is travesty of justice to let it be so.
I had maintained this position in my graduate constitutional classes, however, 
like Mohit, most fail to understand it, let alone appreciate it.
As an instance, I deemed it a violation  of freedom of speech when a principal 
of a granted college prohibited some students from conversing with students of 
another section.
I deem it a violation of article 16 when affiliated and granted colleges do not 
reserve any posts for persons with disabilities.

I still maintain that at least bodies receiving grants from state for various 
projects must be mandated to honor rights of citizens.
Perhaps I am at least a century in advance in my thinking.
Surely, as Mahesh has said, it is a moral question and legal backing must be 
explored to fight it off.

Yes, I maintain my word of call boy / call girl.
The real attribute of the word is to sell oneself for money, and perhaps NAB 
wants precisely such person under the garb of computer instructor.

Mohit, you need a crash course not only in Indian laws but in language as well.


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Mahesh S. Panicker
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 3:39 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Job for Computer Teacher

Well, I wouldn't want to get into the legal aspects of the issue. But
for the disability rights movement as such, for the disability
collective, this particular ad is a matter of significant moral
affront, especially so when we consider that it has come from an
organization that is said to be working for the visually challenged.
The language is offensive and crude, and it most certainly is
exclusivist. They might want the selected candidate to multitask,
perform other responsibilities other than computer training. A
visually challenged person may or may not be able to meet all such
responsibilities, as could be the case with any other candidate. They
could have selected someone who would have been able to take up the
responsibilities they wanted, whether visually challenged or not. But
the insensitive language, and the crude implications can, and should
be questioned, regardless of the legal dimension. I think its an
ethical question, a moral question. It would be good if there could be
some legal backing in challenging this obnoxious act, but that is a
secondary concern.

On 5/22/13, Mohib Anwar Rafel mohibra...@gmail.com wrote:
 Mr Asudani please read your previous message, which reads as
 So, they should not call the post a computer instructor, rather they
 should call it a callboy/call girl and then
 Yes, fundamental rights are violated. You cannot preclude a VI from
 contesting for the job

 According to you I need a crash course in Indian laws, for your kind
 information I have already completed my 5 year law degree in Indian
 laws and currently pursuing master of laws thats too in Indian laws
 here at the top university of India, however, this is other thing that
 I have already completed M.Phil in international law.
 Tell me one thing how many days gone, you have not studied
 constitutional law? However you have corrected your mistake in very
 next message because you wrote your above mentioned message in hurry
 and with out giving any second thought that what do you want to write!
 I think you need to refer Article 12 of Indian constitution which
 defines that which enctities are states and against whom fundamental
 rights can be claimed. So you are a supreme court judge here who is
 claiming that scope of Article 12 is expanding and such agencies
 should also be included under the ambit of Article 12 so that Article
 13(2) could be invoked!
 Prove that these private organizations can be covered under the head
 of states, I asure you I will go to Delhi High court under a petition
 against these private organizations.

 As you might be aware that most of the fundamental rights, in case
 these have been violated, are claimed against the state and its
 instrumentality and not against the private bodies. Article 12 has
 defined that what can be included under the state.
 the state include, the government and parliament of india, the govt
 and legislature of the state, all local authorities and other
 authorities. the action of any of these can be challanged in high
 court  or in supreme court.
 The term other authorities, has not been defined, however supreme
 court has developed the concept of instrumentalities of the state to
 make it clear.

 Here the test which could determine the nature of instrumentality is
 funding and control, such as whether major or entire share capital is
 held by the govt. is govt is involved in carrying the function and
 making the policies?
 Is the administration of the body in the hands of the directors
 

[AI] regarding angel recorder

2013-05-21 Thread ganesh babu
I am searching second hand angel recorder.
if you have please contact me.
phone no: 9611676784

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Re: [AI] Hadley Has a Wide Variety of Courses for the Blind and Visually Impaired To Take Advantage Of

2013-05-21 Thread Raju singh
Can we take any hadly course online?
-Original message-
From: zameer pasha
Sent:  21/05/2013, 10:53  am
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Hadley Has a Wide Variety of Courses for the Blind and 
Visually Impaired To Take Advantage Of


Hi Friend,

I want imformation about In September 2011, Hadley launched a new
program called Forsythe Center for Entrepreneurship. The objective of
this program is to help people launch and
grow their own businesses or advance in their careers. The goal of
this program is to assist in making a dent in the 70 to 80 percent
unemployment rate
how it will help me.




On 1/22/12, TS Negi ts.neg...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hadley Has a Wide Variety of Courses for the Blind and Visually Impaired To
 Take Advantage Of
 John Christie
 Hadley is a distance education institution which was founded in 1920 by
 William Hadley and Dr. E.V.L. Brown. Hadley's first student was from Kansas.
 She took a course on learning Braille. Now, Hadley has an enrollment of
 10,000 students from all 50 states and 100 countries.

 Hadley offers four main areas of study. They include adult continuing
 education, family education, Hadley School for Professional studies and
 their High School program. Their adult continuing education courses or (ACE)
 include Braille and academic studies as well as independent living and
 technology courses. Other courses that are offered in this category include
 business and employment skills as well as recreation. Family members related
 to the blind person are also eligible to take these courses.

 Family education is another category that Hadley specializes in. Courses
 which the severely visually impaired person and their families can take
 include child development, independent living, and Braille reading and
 writing to adjustment to blindness issues. Family education is really
 helpful to the newly blind.

 Hadley School for Professional Studies is a unique Distance Education
 Program for professionals who want to work with the blind and visually
 impaired. HSPS for short is a great program for busy professionals who want
 to either want to work in the blindness field or volunteer in the field. In
 addition, you can also earn continuing education credits. Students who are
 enrolled in a college program or university program may apply as well.

 If you are 14 or older, Hadley has a high School program. You can either
 take a full high school curriculum through Hadley or take courses and
 transfer credits from Hadley to your local high school.

 Hadley also has a variety of web courses. Many of these courses emphasize
 using the computer.

 In September 2011, Hadley launched a new program called Forsythe Center for
 Entrepreneurship. The objective of this program is to help people launch and
 grow their own businesses or advance in their careers. The goal of this
 program is to assist in making a dent in the 70 to 80 percent unemployment
 rate for the blind.

 Hadley has some great course offerings for the blind and professionals going
 into the blindness field. Hopefully, people will continue to take advantage
 of these offerings and improve the quality of their lives.

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[AI] help needed related infty reader

2013-05-21 Thread jeegar

hello  list members
one of my friend downloaded  infty reader, to get access to read his maths 
calculations,

as pdf document does not read fractional stuff,
so now the problem is, he don't know how to use,
after getting it.
any of its user requested to guide,
please its is an  essential for his m.b.a studies.
any urgent  guidance will highly appreciated.

thanks

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Re: [AI] Views Invited: Legal issues in an insurance contract for people with disabilities.

2013-05-21 Thread Sagar Sodah
I think you misunderstood me, Akhil.

Anyway I agree with Harish that the first step would be using stats to
figure out if it is riskier or not.

If so, the risk is due to inaccessibility and not disability. So if the
insurance company wants any remedy for that they should go to the owners of
the premises where an incident occurs.

But we are digressing from the topic, Amar must be swearing at me right now
:)

Sagar
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intouchid: 2010-SAGAR007 http://intch.me/2010-SAGAR007

The evil of the world is made possible only by the sanction you give it.
- John Galt in Atlas Shrugged


On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 1:14 PM, akhilesh akhil.akhi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Sagar,
 Assuming that you're correct. However, It is the duty of the
 state/government to provide the safe environment to PWDs including
 crossing of roads. So one can not and in fact should not be allowed to
 take the advantage of its own wrong.



 On 5/21/13, Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in wrote:
  Sagar
 
  The only objective way to deal with it is on the basis of stats.
 Statistics
  does not show that because of disability they are more prone to
 accidents.
  If that be the case, there is no justification to charge extra. The
 irony is
  that the able bodied are more accident prone and in reality they should
 give
  us discounts.
 
  Harish Kotian
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
  Of Sagar Sodah
  Sent: 20 May 2013 18:00
  To: accessindia
  Subject: Re: [AI] Views Invited: Legal issues in an insurance contract
 for
  people with disabilities.
 
  Hi All,
 
  The extra premium does have a logical basis, in terms of being at
 increased
  risk. Now it depends on the disability and the accident if such increased
  risk is valid or not.
 
  For example, crossing the road, might be considered more riskier if you
 are
  blind compared to if you are normally sighted.
 
  The tricky part is,  this risk is difficult to calculate, and there is a
  very fine line between such calculation and discrimination.
 
  A possible solution could be that in cases where disability plays a major
  role in an injury the insurance company should be allowed to claim part
 or
  all of the money in turn from the owner of the premises where the
 accident
  happens. This makes sense because the discrimination or risk is actually
  due to lack of accessible/inclusive infrastructure. This would also push
  private builders and government to make infrastructure accessible.
 
 
  Sagar
  +91 99 30 271732
  intouchid: 2010-SAGAR007 http://intch.me/2010-SAGAR007
 
  The evil of the world is made possible only by the sanction you give
 it.
  - John Galt in Atlas Shrugged
 
 
  On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 3:12 PM, akhilesh akhil.akhi...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Right Harish Sir,
  But as far as this judgment is concerned, it is not applicable to
  Private bodies.
 
  unjustified denial can surely be challenged on the well established
  grounds as you've mentioned.
 
  It is the responsibility of IRDA (I.R.D.A) that disable are not
  discriminated/charged extra premium  on the grounds of their
  disabilities by private companies.
 
  @Amar:
  I'll go through the judgment and get back to you soon.
 
 
  On 5/20/13, Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in wrote:
   Hi
   To put a non legal perspective, the government / regulators can issue
   guidelines which holds good for the entire industry which includes
 both
   public and private bodies. When RBI issues guidelines it does not
   differentiate between the private and PSu's.
   At any rate, the stats does not bring about any justification on
   applying
   additional premium. There is no basis for the additional premium which
  would
   fall into what can be termed as arbitrarily decision.
  
   Harish Kotian
  
   -Original Message-
   From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
  Behalf
   Of Amar Jain
   Sent: 20 May 2013 13:34
   To: accessindia
   Subject: Re: [AI] Views Invited: Legal issues in an insurance contract
  for
   people with disabilities.
  
   Dear Akhil Bhaiya,
  
   At last, I see someone's legal views.
  
   May be my drafting of second question needs to be revisited by myself
   to make it more clear. What I meant to ask, that considering that LIC
   and other such bodies being created for public welfare etc., the
   principles were being applied through this judgment keeping the social
   welfare objective in mind. But, would the principles hold good even in
   case of private insurers? As you rightly said, this judgment by itself
   will not be applicable to private bodies (unless the court sitting to
   interpret and stretches it to the private insurers keeping the public
   objective in mind), but that is a matter of construction, and as a
   general rule it will not be applicable. But can the principles of this
   judgment bind the other bodies too? Or, would the principles be
   restricted to 

[AI] unable to open html format document through internet explorer

2013-05-21 Thread jeegar

hello friends:
i am trying to open html  document through internet explorer,
and it is giving error of page can not be open,
 etc etc

previously it was working normal,
at both ways online, and offline
but  now what to   do?
i am using window 7 32 bit, and internet explorer 8.
any acquainted in this regard please guide me!


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[AI] Information needed for installation.

2013-05-21 Thread Radha
Hello all,
Is it possible to instal ISO extension file without burning to disk?
If so, please provide the method.

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your comfort zone, and an inch inside your effort.

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Re: [AI] orjent help regarding taking the snap of screen please!

2013-05-21 Thread Raju singh
Sir, at list i have the finereader v 11  install on my computer. So please 
guide me how to use this software to take the snap of screen? And, if possible, 
please upload for me or give the link of there official website for screen 
reader. 
Thanks!  
-Original message-
From: Sunil Sangtani.
Sent:  21/05/2013, 4:47  pm
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] orjent help regarding taking the snap of screen please!


screenshot reader in fine reader  can be used for the purpose. .
its a third party application and it is  shareware.

On 5/19/13, raju singh bidh...@gmail.com wrote:
 respected friends,

 i am having a big problem in my computer. and expecting help from you all.

 in windows xp or previous, taking the snap of screen was farely easy
 step as if we want to take a snap, we just had to press printscreen or
 alt+printscreen from our keyboard, and paste this snap on the paint
 program and save. now in windows 7, i am having a problem, as i am not
 be able to take a snap of any screen. this above keystroke is no
 longer working.  as in practical assignment, we have to display step
 by step procedure along with the snap. in windows 7, there is a
 program include by default known as snipping tools   which can do
 the job of taking snap of picture. but the main problem i am facing is
 that i am not being able to use this program from the keyboard. so, i
 was wandering that is there any third party software which can do the
 same job and can also be used from keyboard? or if any one know the
 procedure regarding taking snap of computer screen with sneeping tool
 without using mouse, i would be very grateful, as i have to submit my
 practical assignment on 26 may.
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 is raaju127 and facebook is raaju12

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Re: [AI] can i use two simultaneous internet connections at a time?

2013-05-21 Thread Vedprakash
Yes, different pages can be opened through different brousers and through 
different connections.
- Original Message - 
From: Mohib Anwar Rafel mohibra...@gmail.com

To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 1:53 PM
Subject: [AI] can i use two simultaneous internet connections at a time?



Hi friends I use MTNL broadband connection for accessing internet
generally, but I also have another 3G modem provided by the university
to access university's LAN on a proxy connection to access its
subscribed resources. Friends is it possible that while using this
MTNL broadband I could use this 3g USB modem and could access the
proxy connection when ever needed? It mean I will be using two
simultaneous internet connection in different browsers! Please educate
me on this requirement.

--
Mohib Anwar Rafel
M.Phil/Masters in International Law, Center for International Legal 
Studies JNU.

Pursuing Masters of Law, at University of Delhi

Phone: 09811767506,
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Re: [AI] Views Invited: Legal issues in an insurance contract for people with disabilities.

2013-05-21 Thread Vedprakash

But private agencies do not charge any extra amount on account of blindness.
I have policies from icici pru, hdfc and Bajaj. none of these charge any 
aditional fee.
- Original Message - 
From: Amar Jain amarjain2...@gmail.com

To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 4:01 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Views Invited: Legal issues in an insurance contract for 
people with disabilities.




Well, both arguments seem to sustain with each other. While it is true
that people with disability do not suffer accidents due to their
disability in most of the cases, but at the same time it is also true
that out of a contract of insurance, the only profit which an insurer
makes is the premium which anyone pays provided that the event insured
never takes place. In such a case, if the cause of the event is
accident due to disability, then the risk of the insurer certainly
increases.

It is also true that each government is responsible to us for
providing infrastructure, but in practicality, it does not exist
today. So in such cases, though bodies like LIC can be made
accountable on the ground of public welfare objective, but what
happens in case of private insurance?

It is also correct to say that regulator generally do not make
distinction while enforcing any regulations, and as on date I.R.D.A.
has nothing on disability related issues in terms of regulation.

I.R.D.A. is a growing regulator, but it is not wrong to say that they
are not as receptive as the regulators like RBI and SEBI are. History
proves that.

I have two key suggestions here:

1. That whenever any disability related insurance is provided, then
fixed additional charge if any, should be deducted at the time of
processing claim, if the surveyor's report shows that the accident
took place because of the disability as a main cause. And no
additional premium should be put on the insured.

This should only apply to accidents that too while walking on road,
and in no other case. (I cannot think of any other circumstance which
could lead to accident due to disability of any kind)

2. While assessing any claim, the disability expert should be
accompanied with the surveyor so to see that there is no undue
advantage being taken by the insurance company while processing the
claim as regards the disability of the insured.

I am open to suggestions.

Regards,
--
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Website: www.amarjain.com

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Re: [AI] Job for Computer Teacher

2013-05-21 Thread Vedprakash

Some years back, I came across such discriminatory advertisement also.
The ad was from the blind relief association for vacancies of teachers for 
the blind school run by them. One of the elligibilities mentioned in the AD 
was: at the Secondary level, the candidate must have science and mathes as 
subjects.
This condition was included just to exclude the visually impaired persons 
from applying for the job.
- Original Message - 
From: Mahesh S. Panicker maheshspanic...@gmail.com

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 3:38 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Job for Computer Teacher



Well, I wouldn't want to get into the legal aspects of the issue. But
for the disability rights movement as such, for the disability
collective, this particular ad is a matter of significant moral
affront, especially so when we consider that it has come from an
organization that is said to be working for the visually challenged.
The language is offensive and crude, and it most certainly is
exclusivist. They might want the selected candidate to multitask,
perform other responsibilities other than computer training. A
visually challenged person may or may not be able to meet all such
responsibilities, as could be the case with any other candidate. They
could have selected someone who would have been able to take up the
responsibilities they wanted, whether visually challenged or not. But
the insensitive language, and the crude implications can, and should
be questioned, regardless of the legal dimension. I think its an
ethical question, a moral question. It would be good if there could be
some legal backing in challenging this obnoxious act, but that is a
secondary concern.

On 5/22/13, Mohib Anwar Rafel mohibra...@gmail.com wrote:

Mr Asudani please read your previous message, which reads as
So, they should not call the post a computer instructor, rather they
should call it a callboy/call girl and then
Yes, fundamental rights are violated. You cannot preclude a VI from
contesting for the job

According to you I need a crash course in Indian laws, for your kind
information I have already completed my 5 year law degree in Indian
laws and currently pursuing master of laws thats too in Indian laws
here at the top university of India, however, this is other thing that
I have already completed M.Phil in international law.
Tell me one thing how many days gone, you have not studied
constitutional law? However you have corrected your mistake in very
next message because you wrote your above mentioned message in hurry
and with out giving any second thought that what do you want to write!
I think you need to refer Article 12 of Indian constitution which
defines that which enctities are states and against whom fundamental
rights can be claimed. So you are a supreme court judge here who is
claiming that scope of Article 12 is expanding and such agencies
should also be included under the ambit of Article 12 so that Article
13(2) could be invoked!
Prove that these private organizations can be covered under the head
of states, I asure you I will go to Delhi High court under a petition
against these private organizations.

As you might be aware that most of the fundamental rights, in case
these have been violated, are claimed against the state and its
instrumentality and not against the private bodies. Article 12 has
defined that what can be included under the state.
the state include, the government and parliament of india, the govt
and legislature of the state, all local authorities and other
authorities. the action of any of these can be challanged in high
court  or in supreme court.
The term other authorities, has not been defined, however supreme
court has developed the concept of instrumentalities of the state to
make it clear.

Here the test which could determine the nature of instrumentality is
funding and control, such as whether major or entire share capital is
held by the govt. is govt is involved in carrying the function and
making the policies?
Is the administration of the body in the hands of the directors
appointed by the government and are they subject to government control
in the discharge of their functions? Whether the operation of the
corporation is an important public function closely related to
governmental functions?
A private educational institution, even if it is recognised by, or
affiliated to, a university, cannot be regarded as an instrumentality
of the government for purposes of Article 12. What is necessary here
that the control of functions of the authority, the government should
be in a position to give directions to the authority to function in a
particular manner .
so finally in various cases the court has now laid down the principles
that The question in each case would be-whether in the light of the
cumulative facts as established, the body is financially, functionally
and administratively dominated by or under the control of the
government. Such control must be particular to the 

[AI] Moderator: RE: Job for Computer Teacher

2013-05-21 Thread Kotian, H P

All

No more flaming please. It is going off-topic.
The thread is closed for all traffic.
Regards
Harish Kotian


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Asudani, Rajesh
Sent: 22 May 2013 10:06
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Job for Computer Teacher

A lawyer who is merely a lawyer is a like popper fish stuck up in a pond.
Granted that current constructions of article 12 are too narrow and may not 
include NGOs, but it is travesty of justice to let it be so.
I had maintained this position in my graduate constitutional classes, however, 
like Mohit, most fail to understand it, let alone appreciate it.
As an instance, I deemed it a violation  of freedom of speech when a principal 
of a granted college prohibited some students from conversing with students of 
another section.
I deem it a violation of article 16 when affiliated and granted colleges do not 
reserve any posts for persons with disabilities.

I still maintain that at least bodies receiving grants from state for various 
projects must be mandated to honor rights of citizens.
Perhaps I am at least a century in advance in my thinking.
Surely, as Mahesh has said, it is a moral question and legal backing must be 
explored to fight it off.

Yes, I maintain my word of call boy / call girl.
The real attribute of the word is to sell oneself for money, and perhaps NAB 
wants precisely such person under the garb of computer instructor.

Mohit, you need a crash course not only in Indian laws but in language as well.


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Mahesh S. Panicker
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 3:39 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Job for Computer Teacher

Well, I wouldn't want to get into the legal aspects of the issue. But
for the disability rights movement as such, for the disability
collective, this particular ad is a matter of significant moral
affront, especially so when we consider that it has come from an
organization that is said to be working for the visually challenged.
The language is offensive and crude, and it most certainly is
exclusivist. They might want the selected candidate to multitask,
perform other responsibilities other than computer training. A
visually challenged person may or may not be able to meet all such
responsibilities, as could be the case with any other candidate. They
could have selected someone who would have been able to take up the
responsibilities they wanted, whether visually challenged or not. But
the insensitive language, and the crude implications can, and should
be questioned, regardless of the legal dimension. I think its an
ethical question, a moral question. It would be good if there could be
some legal backing in challenging this obnoxious act, but that is a
secondary concern.

On 5/22/13, Mohib Anwar Rafel mohibra...@gmail.com wrote:
 Mr Asudani please read your previous message, which reads as
 So, they should not call the post a computer instructor, rather they
 should call it a callboy/call girl and then
 Yes, fundamental rights are violated. You cannot preclude a VI from
 contesting for the job

 According to you I need a crash course in Indian laws, for your kind
 information I have already completed my 5 year law degree in Indian
 laws and currently pursuing master of laws thats too in Indian laws
 here at the top university of India, however, this is other thing that
 I have already completed M.Phil in international law.
 Tell me one thing how many days gone, you have not studied
 constitutional law? However you have corrected your mistake in very
 next message because you wrote your above mentioned message in hurry
 and with out giving any second thought that what do you want to write!
 I think you need to refer Article 12 of Indian constitution which
 defines that which enctities are states and against whom fundamental
 rights can be claimed. So you are a supreme court judge here who is
 claiming that scope of Article 12 is expanding and such agencies
 should also be included under the ambit of Article 12 so that Article
 13(2) could be invoked!
 Prove that these private organizations can be covered under the head
 of states, I asure you I will go to Delhi High court under a petition
 against these private organizations.

 As you might be aware that most of the fundamental rights, in case
 these have been violated, are claimed against the state and its
 instrumentality and not against the private bodies. Article 12 has
 defined that what can be included under the state.
 the state include, the government and parliament of india, the govt
 and legislature of the state, all local authorities and other
 authorities. the action of any of these can be challanged in high
 court  or in supreme court.
 The term other authorities, has not been defined, however supreme
 court has developed the concept of 

Re: [AI] regarding angel recorder

2013-05-21 Thread shiv shankar
I  am shivshankar kapoor at indore


On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 10:26 AM, ganesh babu jsspda.gan...@gmail.comwrote:

 I am searching second hand angel recorder.
 if you have please contact me.
 phone no: 9611676784

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Re: [AI] Job for Computer Teacher

2013-05-21 Thread Mohib Anwar Rafel
Mr Asudani, why are you fooling around? why are you not coming to the
point which you have raised that fundamental right has been violated!
Explain here if you can? Now you are subscribing the view that it is a
moral question! You are just like a person who turn his face according
to the wind! you might be aware that law and morals are two different
aspects.
You might have studied these things in your law graduate but I have
studied the facts which i discussed above in my law postgraduate!
You are deeming different kind of violations, have you done something
practically coming out of your mere fantasy?
You are a century advance in your thinking but we have nothing to do
with your fatuous mulls which is bootless for present century. You are
beating the bush while you know that you will not succeed against the
private bodies, better you apply your energy against the public bodies
which are real subject of application of fundamental rights. Better if
you were studied philosophy rather then law!

You maintained the terms call boy/call girls because you knows those
personally and taking their services out of your frustration!

Mr, my name is not Mohit but its Mohib, I think you need many crash
courses including learning to apply the correct law, I may take
language coaching from you but for law I have many renouned professors
here in the university. Yes if you need any kind of assistance in
understanding the law, contact me.

On 5/22/13, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote:
 A lawyer who is merely a lawyer is a like popper fish stuck up in a pond.
 Granted that current constructions of article 12 are too narrow and may not
 include NGOs, but it is travesty of justice to let it be so.
 I had maintained this position in my graduate constitutional classes,
 however, like Mohit, most fail to understand it, let alone appreciate it.
 As an instance, I deemed it a violation  of freedom of speech when a
 principal of a granted college prohibited some students from conversing with
 students of another section.
 I deem it a violation of article 16 when affiliated and granted colleges do
 not reserve any posts for persons with disabilities.

 I still maintain that at least bodies receiving grants from state for
 various projects must be mandated to honor rights of citizens.
 Perhaps I am at least a century in advance in my thinking.
 Surely, as Mahesh has said, it is a moral question and legal backing must be
 explored to fight it off.

 Yes, I maintain my word of call boy / call girl.
 The real attribute of the word is to sell oneself for money, and perhaps NAB
 wants precisely such person under the garb of computer instructor.

 Mohit, you need a crash course not only in Indian laws but in language as
 well.


 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of Mahesh S. Panicker
 Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 3:39 AM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Job for Computer Teacher

 Well, I wouldn't want to get into the legal aspects of the issue. But
 for the disability rights movement as such, for the disability
 collective, this particular ad is a matter of significant moral
 affront, especially so when we consider that it has come from an
 organization that is said to be working for the visually challenged.
 The language is offensive and crude, and it most certainly is
 exclusivist. They might want the selected candidate to multitask,
 perform other responsibilities other than computer training. A
 visually challenged person may or may not be able to meet all such
 responsibilities, as could be the case with any other candidate. They
 could have selected someone who would have been able to take up the
 responsibilities they wanted, whether visually challenged or not. But
 the insensitive language, and the crude implications can, and should
 be questioned, regardless of the legal dimension. I think its an
 ethical question, a moral question. It would be good if there could be
 some legal backing in challenging this obnoxious act, but that is a
 secondary concern.

 On 5/22/13, Mohib Anwar Rafel mohibra...@gmail.com wrote:
 Mr Asudani please read your previous message, which reads as
 So, they should not call the post a computer instructor, rather they
 should call it a callboy/call girl and then
 Yes, fundamental rights are violated. You cannot preclude a VI from
 contesting for the job

 According to you I need a crash course in Indian laws, for your kind
 information I have already completed my 5 year law degree in Indian
 laws and currently pursuing master of laws thats too in Indian laws
 here at the top university of India, however, this is other thing that
 I have already completed M.Phil in international law.
 Tell me one thing how many days gone, you have not studied
 constitutional law? However you have corrected your mistake in very
 next message because you wrote your above mentioned message in hurry
 and with out 

Re: [AI] Information needed for installation.

2013-05-21 Thread Sunil Sangtani.
.iso is a compression format,
 so it can easyly be extracted threw d compression utilities like
7zip, win rar, or winzip  .
also, you can  use some utilities like power iso to use .iso files
without burnning to disk.

On 5/21/13, Radha r.radh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello all,
 Is it possible to instal ISO extension file without burning to disk?
 If so, please provide the method.

 --
 Cheers,
 Radha
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 your comfort zone, and an inch inside your effort.

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