Re: [AFMUG] mtow suitable?

2019-02-22 Thread Sean Heskett
Yup we still sell the “Zirkel mounts” and a...@zirkel.us is the best contact for orders. -Sean On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 3:44 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > If it’s literally just a Nanostation AC (we use the Locos which are even > smaller), we typically use what we call a “Zirkel mount” because it

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik PWR-LINE AP

2019-02-22 Thread Mathew Howard
I don't know, I just pushed the button on one for a couple seconds, and it started flashing orange, then I did the same on the other and it worked. I did have ethernet plugged into one of them, so it could be that there's some sort of a sequence you have to go through and I just happened to get it

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik PWR-LINE AP

2019-02-22 Thread Ken Hohhof
I wonder what I was doing wrong with the sync buttons. Do you have to pay attention to which one you power up first, or having a live Ethernet connection or something? I would push the button at each end for 2 seconds, the orange lights would flash for a couple minutes, but no pairing. It

Re: [AFMUG] Consumer FCC complaint

2019-02-22 Thread Ken Hohhof
Well, they could have complained about a Net Neutrality violation, but that’s history. Maybe they could complain you didn’t offer them a 24 hour battery backup option for their VoIP. Or that you weren’t transparent enough, but Steve is nothing if not transparent. From: AF On Behalf

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik PWR-LINE AP

2019-02-22 Thread Mathew Howard
I ran a TCP test from the one on the far end back to a different Mikrotik router, and got around 60Mbps (I only tried one direction). I just used the sync button to get two of them to connect together, and it seemed to work alright, but that seems like it would be way too easy for customers to

Re: [AFMUG] mtow suitable?

2019-02-22 Thread Ken Hohhof
If it’s literally just a Nanostation AC (we use the Locos which are even smaller), we typically use what we call a “Zirkel mount” because it comes from Zirkel Wireless. Not sure if a...@zirkel.us is still the right contact. I think they were around $15 each in 50 qty

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik PWR-LINE AP

2019-02-22 Thread Ken Hohhof
OK, based on my bench testing (actually in my house), I recommend not trying to use the Sync button to pair them, especially if you anticipate having more than 2 of them. I had nothing but frustration that way. Log in via the WiFi or Ethernet interface, you can use Winbox to find neighbors

Re: [AFMUG] fiber handholes

2019-02-22 Thread chuck
You have to have permission of the owner of the handhole to put something in it. From: Steve Jones Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 3:15 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] fiber handholes we had some duct bored from one of our providers handholes to our POP. normally

Re: [AFMUG] mtow suitable?

2019-02-22 Thread Steve Jones
the mtowP is lagged to alot of walls around here, just the half with the piece of pipe welded to it. On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 4:10 PM Cameron Crum wrote: > Yeah...it's at a university so needs to look "professional". > > On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 4:00 PM Adam Moffett wrote: > >> Does the

[AFMUG] fiber handholes

2019-02-22 Thread Steve Jones
we had some duct bored from one of our providers handholes to our POP. normally when a customer does this, I assume the duct belongs to the customer. The question is we may have some duct run and dont know if its normally an option to bring it into another providers handhole. are those normally

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik PWR-LINE AP

2019-02-22 Thread Steve Jones
That would be great, we use cambium routers, but customers constantly have coverage issues in their house and even though best buy carries power line stuff they always sell them an 88 dollar garbage nighthawk. Id like to just have a cheap solution to get them into On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 3:29 PM

Re: [AFMUG] mtow suitable?

2019-02-22 Thread Cameron Crum
Yeah...it's at a university so needs to look "professional". On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 4:00 PM Adam Moffett wrote: > Does the nanostation still have slots for hose-clamps? > > slip a 4" length of galvanized pipe strap through the slot and screw that > to the wall. It will never get closer to the

Re: [AFMUG] Consumer FCC complaint

2019-02-22 Thread Adam Moffett
Right, if the complaint is "I don't like what Steve is selling, and Steve told me not to buy it" then that isn't going anywhere. A LEC has some minimum service commitments to meet so that could be a whole different thing. On 2/22/2019 4:56 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote: I wouldn't think they have

Re: [AFMUG] mtow suitable?

2019-02-22 Thread Adam Moffett
Does the nanostation still have slots for hose-clamps? slip a 4" length of galvanized pipe strap through the slot and screw that to the wall.  It will never get closer to the wall than that. On 2/22/2019 4:54 PM, Cameron Crum wrote: I think that still sicks out a little too far. I need

Re: [AFMUG] Consumer FCC complaint

2019-02-22 Thread Lewis Bergman
I wouldn't think they have a right to file a formal complaint. No regulation, nothing to hold you in violation of. On Fri, Feb 22, 2019, 12:17 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > Informal or formal complaint? Informal complaint basically the FCC > forwards to the ISP who sends a response to the customer

Re: [AFMUG] mtow suitable?

2019-02-22 Thread Cameron Crum
I think that still sicks out a little too far. I need something like 2-3 inches from the wall. On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 3:52 PM wrote: > Some folks use these: > https://www.mccowntech.com/product/horizontal-member-tower-mount-6-inch/ > > I guess we could spin one without the bolts and back

Re: [AFMUG] mtow suitable?

2019-02-22 Thread chuck
Some folks use these: https://www.mccowntech.com/product/horizontal-member-tower-mount-6-inch/ I guess we could spin one without the bolts and back clamp. Disk only. From: Cameron Crum Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 2:33 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] mtow

[AFMUG] mtow suitable?

2019-02-22 Thread Cameron Crum
I'm looking for something like the mtow but for wall mounting a cpe. It needs to be pretty low profile as it is in a breeze way and they want it as close to the wall as possible and invisible as possible. It will be use to mount a Nanostation AC. Chuck, do you have a low profile one or is there

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik PWR-LINE AP

2019-02-22 Thread Mathew Howard
I just got some... it seems like a good idea, but I'm not quite sure how we'd use them yet. If you already have another Mikrotik router, using RoMON to manage them could be an option. On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 9:56 AM Ken Hohhof wrote: > Anybody else evaluating or using these? > > > > They are

Re: [AFMUG] OT Hate Crime?

2019-02-22 Thread chuck
Jenny offered corrective surgery. (Right after watching Netflix Bobbitt movie). From: Bill Prince Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 12:41 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Hate Crime? You are not disabled; only hopelessly ignorant. -- bp

Re: [AFMUG] OT Hate Crime?

2019-02-22 Thread chuck
I used to be able to approach the washing machine with an open container of bleach only to be “rescued” for many years . I think she is on to me now. From: Steve Jones Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 12:49 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Hate Crime? On

Re: [AFMUG] OT Hate Crime?

2019-02-22 Thread Ken Hohhof
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMK6xAEVrV8 From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 1:37 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] OT Hate Crime? So, I was born with a penis. As a result, I am disabled. I frequently cannot quite tune in the content of

Re: [AFMUG] OT Hate Crime?

2019-02-22 Thread Steve Jones
On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 1:45 PM Colin Stanners wrote: > Also figuring out "simple" building maintenance devices. > > I still remember years ago, when I and 2 other knowledgeable PC/network > techs (all male) had finished an install at a trucking company. There was > some dirt on the floor from

Re: [AFMUG] OT Hate Crime?

2019-02-22 Thread Colin Stanners
Also figuring out "simple" building maintenance devices. I still remember years ago, when I and 2 other knowledgeable PC/network techs (all male) had finished an install at a trucking company. There was some dirt on the floor from ceiling tiles etc., and for the love of god all 3 of us could not

Re: [AFMUG] OT Hate Crime?

2019-02-22 Thread Bill Prince
You are not disabled; only hopelessly ignorant. -- bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 11:38 AM wrote: > So, I was born with a penis. As a result, I am disabled. > > I frequently cannot quite tune in the content of broadcasts from my wife. > All the knobs on the washing

[AFMUG] OT Hate Crime?

2019-02-22 Thread chuck
So, I was born with a penis. As a result, I am disabled. I frequently cannot quite tune in the content of broadcasts from my wife. All the knobs on the washing machine confuse and frighten me. Many things that non penis packing humans do are unavailable to me. So when I get verbally attacked

Re: [AFMUG] network diagrams etc

2019-02-22 Thread chuck
44 libraries with hundreds of symbols in some of them. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 12:16 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] network diagrams etc It's Gliffy. I think I paid $10 to get it as a plugin for Confluence. And yeah, it makes decent diagrams quickly.

Re: [AFMUG] network diagrams etc

2019-02-22 Thread chuck
You can create your own symbols: https://desk.draw.io/support/solutions/articles/1667790-how-to-create-and-use-custom-libraries- From: Adam Moffett Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 12:16 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] network diagrams etc It's Gliffy. I think I paid $10 to get

Re: [AFMUG] network diagrams etc

2019-02-22 Thread Josh Baird
Gliffy and/or Lucid Chart are where it's at. On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 2:17 PM Adam Moffett wrote: > It's Gliffy. I think I paid $10 to get it as a plugin for Confluence. > And yeah, it makes decent diagrams quickly. I wish it had more equipment > symbols, but it's workable. > > -Adam > > > On

Re: [AFMUG] network diagrams etc

2019-02-22 Thread Adam Moffett
It's Gliffy.  I think I paid $10 to get it as a plugin for Confluence. And yeah, it makes decent diagrams quickly.  I wish it had more equipment symbols, but it's workable. -Adam On 2/22/2019 1:41 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I thought I had mentioned this here, but this morning I was trying

Re: [AFMUG] network diagrams etc

2019-02-22 Thread Ken Hohhof
Does not appear to be Google at all. Couple of Brits. After Brexit I assume your computer and all your drawings will go up in flames? https://about.draw.io/about-us/ From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 12:42 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] network diagrams etc

2019-02-22 Thread Steve Jones
thats pretty cool you can save locally now, i looked past it before cause it was all cloud On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 12:43 PM wrote: > I thought I had mentioned this here, but this morning I was trying to > figure out what I used a few weeks ago to make a nice network diagram. I > had the pdf

[AFMUG] dwdm

2019-02-22 Thread chuck
Has anyone ever tried to put a dwdm channel through a cwdm mux? I can’t think of a reason it would not work. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

[AFMUG] network diagrams etc

2019-02-22 Thread chuck
I thought I had mentioned this here, but this morning I was trying to figure out what I used a few weeks ago to make a nice network diagram. I had the pdf but I could not remember how I made it. So I searched here and did not find a post I made about the software. I must have told someone

[AFMUG] FS: 450SMs and more!

2019-02-22 Thread Cassidy B. Larson
We’re spring cleaning here. We have a bunch of stuff from first glance, hit me up off list for part#s and offers if you’re interested: UBNT airFiber5 (peanut) Cambium PTP 650s (connectorized) (new in box) Cambium ePMP (SMs and APs) Cambium 5700 FSK (APs and SMs) Cambium 430 SMs (10M or 20M

Re: [AFMUG] Consumer FCC complaint

2019-02-22 Thread Ken Hohhof
Informal or formal complaint? Informal complaint basically the FCC forwards to the ISP who sends a response to the customer with a copy to the FCC at which point the FCC feels their job is done. So if you have already sent them a response, a complaint may just get them another copy of it.

Re: [AFMUG] Consumer FCC complaint

2019-02-22 Thread chuck
Since you are an unregulated entity, I would not worry about anything. If you were the ILEC then you might have to file an answer. If the FCC sends something, make sure to respond. From: Steve Jones Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 10:35 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject:

[AFMUG] Mikrotik PWR-LINE AP

2019-02-22 Thread Ken Hohhof
Anybody else evaluating or using these? They are smaller than I thought from the brochure photo, which is good. I worry a bit about customers pressing the little buttons though, you know how customers love to push buttons, plus you could accidentally push a button while plugging the unit

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450b high gain cable gland & cover

2019-02-22 Thread dave
We used them tons for sure! On 2/21/19 4:03 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Well, the stinger had a nice long ride.  Hundreds of thousands of them out in the world.  No matter where I travel, I see one somewhere. *From:* Eric Muehleisen *Sent:* Thursday, February 21, 2019 1:43 PM *To:* AnimalFarm