Re: [AFMUG] Tower on spec

2019-04-09 Thread Lewis Bergman
Call if you like Chuck. Here would be my main points to make sure you hit. 1. Build for at least 2 cell carriers 2. Meter panel box, at least one extra, already installed. 3. R56 earth resistance, but you know that. 5 Ohms or less. 4. Best if there is a gate that opens onto a paved

Re: [AFMUG] Mean Well NDR 120-24 & NDR 120-48 for powering Packetflux Rack Injector?

2019-04-09 Thread Jesse Dupont
I 2nd this; I’ve had an NDR die, but SDR units have been solid! Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 9, 2019, at 7:10 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: > > I think the NDR series may actually be the only Meanwell power supplies that > I have had die (outside of things like lightning strikes that fried >

Re: [AFMUG] SFP Switch recomendation

2019-04-09 Thread Lewis Bergman
I don't know what Gino's reason is but I sold my WISP. I have some spares laying around still. No idea if they are good fit any longer for any particular purpose. I can only say they worked well at the time. On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 9:02 PM Carl Peterson wrote: > Mike, > > Any idea how to get

Re: [AFMUG] Mean Well NDR 120-24 & NDR 120-48 for powering Packetflux Rack Injector?

2019-04-09 Thread Ken Hohhof
I have a bunch of Mean Well HRP-150 and HRP-300, very reliable for wide temperature environments, but they are not DIN rail mount. I do have some Traco TSP series DIN rail units, also some Phoenix Contact but they are expensive and might just be paying for the name. From: AF On Behalf Of

Re: [AFMUG] SFP Switch recomendation

2019-04-09 Thread Carl Peterson
Mike, Any idea how to get QinQ VLANs + a couple other non QinQ VLANs to trunk between two ignite switches? For the life of me I can't make it work. Per their manual it is switchport dot1q-tunnel mode uplink On one switch and then the upstream switch is just a trunk port allowing that SVLAN but

Re: [AFMUG] Mean Well NDR 120-24 & NDR 120-48 for powering Packetflux Rack Injector?

2019-04-09 Thread Mathew Howard
I think the NDR series may actually be the only Meanwell power supplies that I have had die (outside of things like lightning strikes that fried everything)... however, they were definitely abused. I think the SDR series handles abuse a bit better... at least I've never had one die, and there

Re: [AFMUG] Mean Well NDR 120-24 & NDR 120-48 for powering Packetflux Rack Injector?

2019-04-09 Thread Mathew Howard
So, the moral of the story is that you should always drink beer on the job, instead of Gatorade? On Tue, Apr 9, 2019, 7:23 PM Chuck McCown wrote: > Reminds me of a contractor I saw on the street of a small town in Oregon > where I was the local telephone guy. > > (this is a 40 year old story) >

Re: [AFMUG] SFP Switch recomendation

2019-04-09 Thread Bill Prince
We got a pair of RS260 (RS250?) switches ONE TIME. I wasted so much time programming those damn switches, I swore I would never get them again. -- bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 5:38 PM Josh Baird wrote: > Which is one of the main reasons I won't touch them with a 10ft

Re: [AFMUG] SFP Switch recomendation

2019-04-09 Thread Josh Baird
Which is one of the main reasons I won't touch them with a 10ft pole.. configuring L2 VLAN's should *not* be that difficult. They have had years to improve it.. and it still sucks. On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 8:26 PM Bill Prince wrote: > +150 > > The VLAN configuration on Mikrotik switches is

Re: [AFMUG] Mean Well NDR 120-24 & NDR 120-48 for powering Packetflux Rack Injector?

2019-04-09 Thread Bill Prince
We have had similar scenarios with subscribers who accidentally unplug their power injector. They were arrears in payment, and the service stopped, so they assume we had cut them off. No, you just have to plug in the injector. Now, while I have you here, how do you want to handle your service

Re: [AFMUG] SFP Switch recomendation

2019-04-09 Thread Bill Prince
+150 The VLAN configuration on Mikrotik switches is almost as confounding as possible. -- bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 3:59 PM Mike Hammett wrote: > Try a Mikrotik switch if you think the IgniteNet is bad. > > I had no problem figuring out VLANs on IgniteNet.

Re: [AFMUG] Mean Well NDR 120-24 & NDR 120-48 for powering Packetflux Rack Injector?

2019-04-09 Thread Chuck McCown
Reminds me of a contractor I saw on the street of a small town in Oregon where I was the local telephone guy. (this is a 40 year old story) I told him he needs to pay his bill or I am going to have to disconnect. I thought he was going to beat me to death right on the street. His line had

Re: [AFMUG] Mean Well NDR 120-24 & NDR 120-48 for powering Packetflux Rack Injector?

2019-04-09 Thread Steve Jones
We had a 48v mean well doa, well doa when we first powered it on, a jug of Gatorade leaked into it and a syncinjector first. Syncinjector was fine On Tue, Apr 9, 2019, 3:55 PM wrote: > All I can say is that I have never had a Meanwell product die that had not > been abused. > > *From:* Brandon

Re: [AFMUG] SFP Switch recomendation

2019-04-09 Thread Jason McKemie
Mainly RB260GS. On Wednesday, April 10, 2019, Carl Peterson wrote: > Jason, what are you using on the far end of the fiber with the ignites? > > > On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 1:14 PM Jason McKemie < > j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: > >> I've also been liking the Ignitenet fusion fiber

Re: [AFMUG] SFP Switch recomendation

2019-04-09 Thread Mike Hammett
Try a Mikrotik switch if you think the IgniteNet is bad. I had no problem figuring out VLANs on IgniteNet. *shrugs* - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Carl Peterson" To: "AnimalFarm

Re: [AFMUG] Mean Well NDR 120-24 & NDR 120-48 for powering Packetflux Rack Injector?

2019-04-09 Thread chuck
All I can say is that I have never had a Meanwell product die that had not been abused. From: Brandon Yuchasz Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 2:50 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Mean Well NDR 120-24 & NDR 120-48 for powering Packetflux Rack Injector? Last night I replaced yet another

[AFMUG] Mean Well NDR 120-24 & NDR 120-48 for powering Packetflux Rack Injector?

2019-04-09 Thread Brandon Yuchasz
Last night I replaced yet another Amazon special 29.5V power supply that was feeding out packetflux equipment. These are defiantly a weak link and something I need to pull out of the field and replace. I spent some time today digging into the MeanWell product line and came up with two options to

Re: [AFMUG] SFP Switch recomendation

2019-04-09 Thread Carl Peterson
I just looked up my GE24 card pricing and it isn't completely insane. Just doesn't really work for residential. On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 2:23 PM Carl Peterson wrote: > I see that they advertise that as a feature. I run EXA, haven't moved > over to AXOS yet so I could be missing a lot. I know

Re: [AFMUG] SFP Switch recomendation

2019-04-09 Thread Carl Peterson
I see that they advertise that as a feature. I run EXA, haven't moved over to AXOS yet so I could be missing a lot. I know they claim that you can move a lot of your BNG features out into the network with AXOS but I don't quite get it yet. I'll ask my Calix support reps about it when i start to

Re: [AFMUG] SFP Switch recomendation

2019-04-09 Thread chuck
I think the idea is that if you buy their switch it has a TFTP and DHCP server so it can be an stand alone ISP in a box. From: Carl Peterson Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 1:00 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SFP Switch recomendation I don't. I mean I do have a

Re: [AFMUG] SFP Switch recomendation

2019-04-09 Thread Carl Peterson
If I were doing Calix for Active I might look at the E5-520 for a comp with the ignite switch (20Ge +4 10GE). I've never priced one with them but I'd guess you just add a 0 to the ignite price. They also have a 12 CSFP (24) port card for the E7-2 chassis and you can run two of them in an E7-2

Re: [AFMUG] SFP Switch recomendation

2019-04-09 Thread Carl Peterson
I don't. I mean I do have a bunch of 12GE cards in E7-2 chassis but don't use them for subs. Why would you want to run DHCP on your switch? On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 1:56 PM wrote: > Do you use other switches with the 844GEs that work better? > I have no idea what that fancy Calix witch with the

Re: [AFMUG] SFP Switch recomendation

2019-04-09 Thread chuck
Do you use other switches with the 844GEs that work better? I have no idea what that fancy Calix witch with the DHCP server built in costs. From: Carl Peterson Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 10:42 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SFP Switch recomendation We are

Re: [AFMUG] SFP Switch recomendation

2019-04-09 Thread Carl Peterson
Jason, what are you using on the far end of the fiber with the ignites? On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 1:14 PM Jason McKemie < j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: > I've also been liking the Ignitenet fusion fiber switches. I had some > incompatibility problems between a Planet switch I trialed

Re: [AFMUG] SFP Switch recomendation

2019-04-09 Thread Jason McKemie
I've also been liking the Ignitenet fusion fiber switches. I had some incompatibility problems between a Planet switch I trialed and multiple models of Mikrotik, haven't tried them subsequently. On Tuesday, April 9, 2019, Carl Peterson wrote: > We are using a few Ignite fusion fiber switches.

Re: [AFMUG] Tower on spec

2019-04-09 Thread Cameron Crum
I used to do the RF design for cellcos back in the 90's finding the sites to put them, and actually lived in SLC for a couple years designing the initial Cricket network You would definitely want to put them where there are not towers and in high traffic areas (i.e. by freeways, shopping malls,

[AFMUG] Cambium "Connecting U" for employee RF training etc.

2019-04-09 Thread Colin Stanners
FYI, Cambium has a number of good videos/courses in their "Connecting U" that are good for training new employees on RF fundamentals, and some more advanced topics. https://learning.cambiumnetworks.com/learn -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] SFP Switch recomendation

2019-04-09 Thread Carl Peterson
We are using a few Ignite fusion fiber switches. Big complaint is that there is some strange incompatibility with 844GEs where it will sometimes cause the 844GE to reset its WAN VLAN settings if the ignite switch gets power cycled. Not sure if this has anything to do with ignite, but it doesn't

Re: [AFMUG] Tower on spec

2019-04-09 Thread Steve Jones
youll just end up with a bunch of dirty WISPS wanting to nickel and dime you. Stupid dirty little wisps always doin wispy stuff On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 11:34 AM Philip Rankin wrote: > I’ve never had any luck in owning spec towers. I wish you lots of > luck. Taxes, maintenance and electrical

Re: [AFMUG] Tower on spec

2019-04-09 Thread chuck
I need these two towers for my own stuff. But my need is temporary. Like a year or two. From: Philip Rankin Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 10:33 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower on spec I’ve never had any luck in owning spec towers. I wish you lots of

Re: [AFMUG] Tower on spec

2019-04-09 Thread Philip Rankin
I’ve never had any luck in owning spec towers. I wish you lots of luck. Taxes, maintenance and electrical expenses all seem to continue while rental income seems to be very evasive. Even with a tower in a great location. On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 10:57 AM wrote: > If I was to put up a couple

[AFMUG] Tower on spec

2019-04-09 Thread chuck
If I was to put up a couple towers with the hopes of attracting cell companies, should I put up monopoles. How tall?-- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] SFP Switch recomendation

2019-04-09 Thread Steve Jones
if two guys are ditching them cheap, can i assume theyre not a good fit? On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 8:03 PM Gino A. Villarini wrote: > Yeah.. me too.. > > > > *Gino* > *Villarini *Founder/President > @gvillarini > t: 787.273.4143 Ext. 204 > m: > [image: aeronet-logo]