ALFO Plus2 11Ghz 80Mhz channels at 4096 QAM
2+0 XPIC
710Mbps per channel
On 9 Jan 2020, at 0:08, Jason McKemie wrote:
The ALFO Plus 11 can do 80MHz? That's news to me, SIAE has always told
me
they do 56MHz in a 80MHz channel. The pair that I have in the air is
currently set up that way.
On
Reach out to aviat, Ken would be better equipped to detail this than me.
Its worth talking to them, light pressure sales.
On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 11:04 PM Darin Steffl
wrote:
> Steve,
>
> What do you mean by they can do more than an 80mhz channel? As far as I
> know, that's the largest channel
Steve,
What do you mean by they can do more than an 80mhz channel? As far as I
know, that's the largest channel size allowed in FCC land for licensed
backhauls.
Educate me if I'm wrong. It sounds interesting
On Wed, Jan 8, 2020, 10:31 PM Steve Jones wrote:
> aviat can do even more than 80 in
aviat can do even more than 80 in fcc if you can get a spare channel. youd
want to talk to Ken Ruppel Price is crazy good.
We are going to be doing 3 of them here shortly. a buddy of mine got aviat
certified and had been installing a bunch on contract, says the gear is
easy to deal with and the
I thought so as well.
On Wednesday, January 8, 2020, Mathew Howard wrote:
> I think you need ALFO Plus 2 to do 80mhz
>
> On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 10:09 PM Jason McKemie <
> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
>
>> The ALFO Plus 11 can do 80MHz? That's news to me, SIAE has always told me
>>
I think you need ALFO Plus 2 to do 80mhz
On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 10:09 PM Jason McKemie <
j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
> The ALFO Plus 11 can do 80MHz? That's news to me, SIAE has always told me
> they do 56MHz in a 80MHz channel. The pair that I have in the air is
> currently set up
The ALFO Plus 11 can do 80MHz? That's news to me, SIAE has always told me
they do 56MHz in a 80MHz channel. The pair that I have in the air is
currently set up that way.
On Wednesday, January 8, 2020, Mike Meluskey wrote:
> We are very impressed with SIAE Alfo Plus 11 and 18Ghz links with
Bouncie
On Wed, Jan 8, 2020, 8:46 PM Matt Hoppes
wrote:
> Funny - fleetmatics costs money while FordPass is free.
>
> I can track my trucks with FordPass for free.
>
> Granted fleetmatics has more details. But still. Makes you think.
>
> On Jan 8, 2020, at 9:39 PM, Jaime Solorza
> wrote:
>
>
https://phys.org/news/2020-01-nano-antennas.html
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Mike,
Are this SIAE links 1.4gbps full duplex or aggregate?
On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 7:14 PM Mike Meluskey wrote:
> We are very impressed with SIAE Alfo Plus 11 and 18Ghz links with 80Mhz
> dual-pol channels.
> Getting 1.4Gbps of throughput.
>
> On 8 Jan 2020, at 19:52, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>
>
Funny - fleetmatics costs money while FordPass is free.
I can track my trucks with FordPass for free.
Granted fleetmatics has more details. But still. Makes you think.
> On Jan 8, 2020, at 9:39 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>
> We use Fleetmatics on Verizon for vans and buses. We have a large
We use Fleetmatics on Verizon for vans and buses. We have a large TV on
wall always monitoring them in command center.
On Wed, Jan 8, 2020, 5:19 PM Nate Burke wrote:
> So since my Delphi Units apparently just suddenly terminated, what else
> is out there for vehicle tracking?
>
> We liked the
get one of the verizon kid trackers. theyre like five bucks a month too.
kid, vehicle, same thing
On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 6:19 PM Nate Burke wrote:
> So since my Delphi Units apparently just suddenly terminated, what else
> is out there for vehicle tracking?
>
> We liked the delphi units because
we have over 50 AF11x links, best option for its price.
We also have CEragon and Aviat. Both great but at 3x -4x the price
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m:
The nice thing about zello too is that if you are on site without cell service
but still can get to the network or have Wi-Fi on site Zello works fine that
way too.
Brian
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Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 7:34 PM
To:
Zello doesn’t have any monthly fee for the free version. Just data use.
Brian
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Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 4:51 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone use these
I think if you want to run
So since my Delphi Units apparently just suddenly terminated, what else
is out there for vehicle tracking?
We liked the delphi units because they were just on the Verizon bill for
$5 each.
It looks like most of vehicle tracking services are about
$20/month/vehicle.
Sonar can do some
We are very impressed with SIAE Alfo Plus 11 and 18Ghz links with 80Mhz
dual-pol channels.
Getting 1.4Gbps of throughput.
On 8 Jan 2020, at 19:52, Ken Hohhof wrote:
Mark is right, I was being nice.
As far as advance replacement, I believe there is an additional
warranty you can purchase
Mark is right, I was being nice.
As far as advance replacement, I believe there is an additional warranty you
can purchase to get that. Haven’t done it, so can’t comment.
There is some period of time after shipment, I think 30 or 45 days or
something, where they will treat it as a DOA
Do they not have an advanced replacement? This seems to be pretty common
with other vendors these days.
On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 6:23 PM Mark Radabaugh wrote:
>
>
> On Jan 8, 2020, at 5:45 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>
>
> A couple other comments about Cambium licensed radios. Make sure you
>
> On Jan 8, 2020, at 5:45 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>
>
> A couple other comments about Cambium licensed radios. Make sure you account
> for the price of all the keys you may need. Ask your Cambium rep if you can
> get a discount, especially if you intend to buy multiple links. They may
>
I think most people buy the standard PTP820S and PtP820C, not the high power
version, so I wouldn’t focus on the price of the HP version unless you think
you really need that.
Cambium PTP820S/C is rebranded Ceragon IP20, and I assume at some point Cambium
will be selling a PTP850 based on
Yep - Aviat has this capability.
On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 5:11 PM Mathew Howard wrote:
> Well, if we're talking about the high power model of the PTP820, I don't
> think there are a lot of other radios that can hit that kind of power
> levels, and if there are, they probably aren't any cheaper.
>
Well, if we're talking about the high power model of the PTP820, I don't
think there are a lot of other radios that can hit that kind of power
levels, and if there are, they probably aren't any cheaper.
For the lower end models, most of the brands that I priced were within a
few thousand of each
You can get *much* cheaper links that will do 1.2Gbps. Holler at Aviat if
you are shopping.
On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 4:28 PM Adam Moffett wrote:
> You're closer to $25k once you're all in with that one, including license
> keys and the whole BOM. It'll do 1.2gbps though.
>
> -Adam
>
>
> On
I think if you want to run the dedicated lte radio hardware you just need
to provide a active LTE data only sim, something like at prepaid or maybe
even twilio is a good solution for low data low monthly price, then you pay
for the cloud radio service on top? I'm sure they may also offer lte
If they can run the zello app then they work with any internet connectivity.
Brian Webster
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Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 4:07 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone use these
Will
Ouch, what is the selling point of these with companies like Aviat offering
much better deals?
On Wednesday, January 8, 2020, Adam Moffett wrote:
> You're closer to $25k once you're all in with that one, including license
> keys and the whole BOM. It'll do 1.2gbps though.
>
> -Adam
>
>
> On
You're closer to $25k once you're all in with that one, including
license keys and the whole BOM. It'll do 1.2gbps though.
-Adam
On 1/8/2020 12:33 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
Yes, PTP820 can do 80mhz, but they're not cheap... especially the high
power version. I don't remember exactly what I
https://www.twowayradiocenter.com/hytera-pnc370/
$305
On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 4:07 PM wrote:
> Will this work with my regular AT account or is this something different?
> How much do the handsets cost? I have used the Zello apps on the phone.
> My guys don’t like them too much.
> Nextel was
Will this work with my regular AT account or is this something different?
How much do the handsets cost? I have used the Zello apps on the phone. My
guys don’t like them too much.
Nextel was great.
From: Brian Webster
Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 1:14 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users
I have one and use it with the free Zello software. Works great as long as you
have cell phone coverage. Uses your data but not a big bandwidth hog unless you
stay connected to some groups that are always talking. You can make custom
groups for your company and have everyone talking on the same
Thanks Jaime
On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 12:27 PM Jaime Solorza
wrote:
> https://www.sunwize.com/product-category/pre/
> Jaime Solorza
> Wireless Systems Architect
> 915-861-1390
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 11:19 AM Jaime Solorza
> wrote:
>
>> Sunwize
>> Jaime Solorza
>> Wireless Systems Architect
https://www.sunwize.com/product-category/pre/
Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390
On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 11:19 AM Jaime Solorza
wrote:
> Sunwize
> Jaime Solorza
> Wireless Systems Architect
> 915-861-1390
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 10:45 AM Lewis Bergman
> wrote:
>
>> This
nope..not even stopping anyone..lol
Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390
On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 6:58 PM Ken Hohhof wrote:
> You mean we’re spending all that money on “the wall” and it doesn’t block
> RF?
>
>
>
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> *Sent:* Tuesday,
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On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 10:45 AM Lewis Bergman
wrote:
> This topic has been raised often. What is a good website to help
> calculate, and maybe purchase, everything I need for a solar site?
>
> --
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> 325-439-0533 Cell
This topic has been raised often. What is a good website to help calculate,
and maybe purchase, everything I need for a solar site?
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Yes, PTP820 can do 80mhz, but they're not cheap... especially the high
power version. I don't remember exactly what I was quoted off hand, but
you're probably going to be looking at $15-20k, for a complete link with
XPIC and so forth.
You could probably do Bridgewave Navigator or Aviat quite a
can PTP820 do 80mhz channel? maybe its just better to swap out with
Cambium, how much is a cambium PTP820 link costing these days? High Power
version?
On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 12:03 PM Mathew Howard wrote:
> There's also the problem that (as far as I know) there's no practical way
> to run two
There's also the problem that (as far as I know) there's no practical way
to run two AF11 radios on a single dish... which means that it would end up
costing more, and being overall less practical than just buying radios that
support 80mhz channels.
On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 10:55 AM Seth Mattinen
I wonder how these compare with conventional 2 way radio systems.
I have been having limited success with MURS color dot and GMRS frequency
radios due to range.
I have not yet contacted a regional 2 way operator to get his radios.
But I know my guys may travel out of the region he serves.
On 1/8/20 8:36 AM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
if you have an 80mhz channel and are running radios in 56mhz channel
width can u just put a 2nd link up and split them up to the two 40mhz?
No, that's not allowed. You need to license two 40MHz channels.
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The FCC needs to know about pretty much anything beyond replacing a radio
with the exact same model. I suspect that you couldn't actually run two
AF11's on adjacent channels anyway...
On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 10:37 AM Kurt Fankhauser
wrote:
> if you have an 80mhz channel and are running radios in
It’s getting better.
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> On Jan 8, 2020, at 10:38 AM, Joe Novak wrote:
>
>
> There seems to be a lot of people complaining about getting stock of spare
> parts, and it has seemed to be on going for the
if you have an 80mhz channel and are running radios in 56mhz channel width
can u just put a 2nd link up and split them up to the two 40mhz? Does FCC
need to know about this or just do it?
On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 10:38 AM Joe Novak wrote:
> There seems to be a lot of people complaining about
There seems to be a lot of people complaining about getting stock of spare
parts, and it has seemed to be on going for the last 6 months or so. Not
something I would want to worry about.
On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 9:26 AM Nate Burke wrote:
> We have several, about 2 dozen in place for about 2
Well, I would say that "Greatest spectral efficiency in its class" is
perfectly true, because the only other radio that I consider to be "in its
class" is the Mimosa B11, which is, in fact, much less spectrally
efficient.
But yeah, that claim is on the same level as saying that they're capable of
We have five links running, and the oldest one have been running since
shortly after the radios were released.
They work well, they're the cheapest thing out there, and they've been
reliable and consistent for us. The biggest downsides are limited capacity,
and they're not as spectrally efficient
I do not doubt that AF11 is reliable and cost effective. I get grumbly
when I read their data sheets and see the claim "Greatest spectral
efficiency in its class". That's only possible if they feel they're in
a class by themselves. If I compare throughput per chain, per mhz, at
the same mod
We have several, about 2 dozen in place for about 2 years, Have not had
any issues with them.
I like the fact that they are cheap enough to just keep spares on a
shelf. But so far we have not had any problems. Most of our Paths
were running AF5 radios that we upgraded to AF11, so we didn't
We've had them for a few years... very reliable.. work well... only do
56Mhz of 80MHz channel width. Aviat will do the full 80MHz for only a
small amount more (I believe).
You can also run 2 x 11x links and divide the 80MHz up to 40Mhz+ 40MHz
and get about 1.2Gbps vs the 700Mbps you'll get
Anybody have more than a couple of these thing in place for while that can
comment on their Pros / Cons ?
Needing to buy 8 licensed links and looking for reliable, but cost effective
Paul
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I got Baltic and SAF to do that once. Unfortunately, I couldn't make it to my
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