Re: [AFMUG] Reselling Electricity

On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 04:12:25PM -0400, Matt Hoppes wrote: > Has anyone here looking into becoming a reseller for a wholesale > electric company? At scale, that's effectively what a data center becomes... Never thought about it on bigger scale. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] home security cams (Nest, Ring, etc.)

Put this on it. https://hipwallpaper.com/view/fNQdBY bp On 8/20/2019 7:19 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > Roku, Twinkie,  Camera, Slim Jim and Cell Phone   Friends of Timmy, PJ and

Re: [AFMUG] home security cams (Nest, Ring, etc.)

> Roku, Twinkie, Camera, Slim Jim and Cell Phone Friends of Timmy, PJ and Squee? Or Sarah Palin’s kids? Or drug dealers coming to Maine like D-Money, Smoothie and Shifty. Maybe just rapper names. From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2019 8:55 PM To:

[AFMUG] Webmin zero day - patch now

I got alerted to this on another list, thought I'd pass it on in case anybody here is using webmin. https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/08/19/webmin_project_zero_day_patch/ -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] home security cams (Nest, Ring, etc.)

IMHO, thugs are thugs because they lack the intelligence and / or the self discipline to learn something valuable like IT. I would guess they could not pick an NVR out of a collection of a Roku, Twinkie, Camera, Slim Jim and Cell Phone. From: Bill Prince Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2019

Re: [AFMUG] home security cams (Nest, Ring, etc.)

Plus they're easy to hide. bp On 8/20/2019 6:28 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote: For the average home owner I doubt a stolen NVR is real high on the threat list. On Tue, Aug 20, 2019, 5:51 PM Daniel White

Re: [AFMUG] home security cams (Nest, Ring, etc.)

For the average home owner I doubt a stolen NVR is real high on the threat list. On Tue, Aug 20, 2019, 5:51 PM Daniel White wrote: > Problem with NVR's though is if it is a burglary... you can easily walk > away with the evidence. If the video is in the cloud... you have it up > till they

Re: [AFMUG] college students are too lazy

I remember a box on the porch that the milk guy would use. Seems like you could get ice cream and ice cream sandwiches from him too. -Original Message- From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2019 5:58 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] college students

Re: [AFMUG] college students are too lazy

Oh yeah. Glass bottles with the neck filled with cream. You could pour the cream out, or you could stick in a butter knife and stir to make it "homogenized". bp On 8/20/2019 4:58 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Our house used to have a door for coal, but not for milk. We had milk delivered until

Re: [AFMUG] college students are too lazy

Our house used to have a door for coal, but not for milk. We had milk delivered until recently, but they gave us a picnic style cooler to leave on the porch for it. Glass bottles. No pogs though. -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2019

Re: [AFMUG] home security cams (Nest, Ring, etc.)

The individual WiFi cameras streaming to the cloud just isn’t a scalable solution. The cloud service charges per month per camera, and if you have a bunch of 4 MP cameras all streaming to the cloud, the upstream data rate is unreasonable for most people unless they have fiber or cable

Re: [AFMUG] college students are too lazy

One of my boyhood homes had a compartment in the wall between the kitchen and the front porch. Once or twice a week, milk, cream, butter, and other dairy products would show up, and we'd just take it out and stick it in the fridge. There was a clip on the door that held an ordering slip. We'd

Re: [AFMUG] Used 450i 5ghz AP's?

I'm looking for 4 of them. On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 4:28 PM Gino A. Villarini wrote: > How many you need? I might have some > > > > *Gino* > *Villarini *Founder/President > @gvillarini > t: 787.273.4143 Ext. 204 > m: > [image: aeronet-logo] [image: inc500] >

Re: [AFMUG] home security cams (Nest, Ring, etc.)

Problem with NVR's though is if it is a burglary... you can easily walk away with the evidence.  If the video is in the cloud... you have it up till they destroy the camera or internet connection. photograph Daniel White Co-Founder - Business Development & Operations phone: +1 (702)

Re: [AFMUG] college students are too lazy

I still get milk delivered :-) photograph Daniel White Co-Founder - Business Development & Operations phone: +1 (702) 470-2766 direct:+1 (702) 470-2770 Jay Weekley wrote on 8/20/19 10:38: I am actually old enough to remember milk delivery.  The milk could magically appear on a wall on

Re: [AFMUG] home security cams (Nest, Ring, etc.)

Good point about the NVR. Having one camera stream directly to the cloud may sound like a good idea, but what happens when you start adding cameras, inside and outside the house. An NVR gives you local storage and viewing for all the cameras, but still allows notifications and remote

Re: [AFMUG] OT windows update

It finished in about 4 hours but then immediately undid some or all of it. Not sure what happened therer. From: James Howard Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2019 2:16 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT windows update It ran the other day on my PC. Took about 2 hours

Re: [AFMUG] home security cams (Nest, Ring, etc.)

Here's a good thread that recently came up on /. https://ask.slashdot.org/story/19/08/02/2129207/ask-slashdot-budget-friendly-webcam-without-a-cloud-service On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 5:28 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > > Security cameras seem to be all the rage. Many WiFi issues, but also I’m > tired of

[AFMUG] home security cams (Nest, Ring, etc.)

Security cameras seem to be all the rage. Many WiFi issues, but also I'm tired of seeing them stream up to the cloud and then back down to the customer's phone when he's sitting in his living room. I understand when they are away, they want to be alerted and shown a video of the UPS guy's butt

Re: [AFMUG] OT windows update

You will know it's done when a window comes up with a bitcoin address... On 8/20/19 11:42 AM, Bill Prince wrote: Don't worry. It's just encrypting all your files. That can take a while. bp On 8/20/2019 10:47 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: A bit. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 20, 2019, at 11:38 AM,

Re: [AFMUG] college students are too lazy

We aren't that far away from milk delivery...   I was working for L3 at the beginning and I got set up in a townhome in Broomfield and this nice brand new complex had dairy delivery available three times a week.  Oh so wonderful fresh mild delivered twice a week.  I thought it was great not

[AFMUG] OT - for aficionados of old time audio gear

This story about Jamaican dub music mentions equipment from the 60's like the Fisher Spacexpander, Roland Space-Echo and Maestro Echoplex. Also some photos of gigantic speaker setups (bass is apparently an essential part of dub music.) I am not a musician, but some here are, as well as some who

Re: [AFMUG] OT windows update

It ran the other day on my PC. Took about 2 hours on an i7. From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2019 12:24 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT windows update Wonder how long I should wait? Sent from my

Re: [AFMUG] OT windows update

Don't worry. It's just encrypting all your files. That can take a while. bp On 8/20/2019 10:47 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: A bit. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 20, 2019, at 11:38 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Are you seeing hard drive activity? -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Bill

Re: [AFMUG] OT windows update

If you're seeing regular bursts of disk activity, let it run for 2-3 hours before giving up. I'm assuming it has already done the download and is decompressing, checking, and installing the update(s). All of which involve lots of disk activity, probably interspersed with CPU and memory activity.

Re: [AFMUG] OT windows update

Sounds like your internet isn't working. You should get on social media and trash your ISP. On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 12:01 PM Chuck McCown wrote: > > Been on 27% for an hour. > Sent from my iPhone > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT windows update

A bit. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 20, 2019, at 11:38 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > > Are you seeing hard drive activity? > > -Original Message- > From: AF On Behalf Of Bill Prince > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2019 12:28 PM > To: af@af.afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT windows update >

Re: [AFMUG] OT windows update

if its the big feature update its pushing out, it does take a long time sometimes, its a full os udate On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 12:38 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > Are you seeing hard drive activity? > > -Original Message- > From: AF On Behalf Of Bill Prince > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2019

Re: [AFMUG] OT windows update

Whatever metric they use is not linear. I've watched it hang for a really long time at some low percentage (like your 27%), then finish the last 70% in the space of a minute. bp On 8/20/2019 10:00 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: Been on 27% for an hour. Sent from my iPhone -- AF mailing list

Re: [AFMUG] OT windows update

Wonder how long I should wait? Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 20, 2019, at 11:11 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > > Obviously your Internet is slow. Call your ISP and complain. > > -Original Message- > From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2019 12:01 PM > To:

Re: [AFMUG] OT I don't get it

Its not really complicated, ask any dealer where its legal, its the taxes On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 12:08 PM Dan Parrish wrote: > Ah, the old, "If you just lower taxes you make more money in tax revenue > argument." Armchair policy-making on this isn't so easy. This is a > complicated issue. > >

Re: [AFMUG] OT windows update

Obviously your Internet is slow. Call your ISP and complain. -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2019 12:01 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] OT windows update Been on 27% for an hour. Sent from my iPhone -- AF mailing list

Re: [AFMUG] OT I don't get it

Ah, the old, "If you just lower taxes you make more money in tax revenue argument." Armchair policy-making on this isn't so easy. This is a complicated issue. --dan On 8/18/2019 7:57 PM, Bill Prince wrote: The black market still exists because they made the taxes so high. The cannabis

[AFMUG] OT windows update

Been on 27% for an hour. Sent from my iPhone -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] college students are too lazy

I am actually old enough to remember milk delivery. The milk could magically appear on a wall on the side of the house each morning. Cameron Crum wrote: That's funny, I live in a neighborhood that had many homes built in the 19-teens and 1920's. Most of them have doors for ice delivery,

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Movie Review

Don’t cross the streams. It would be bad. From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2019 11:01 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Movie Review are threads overlapping? Ive been seeing this alot, have you all taken up drinking? On

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Movie Review

are threads overlapping? Ive been seeing this alot, have you all taken up drinking? On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 9:35 AM wrote: > I have been using gloss. Sherwin Williams “satellite white” is their > name. > > *From:* Ken Hohhof > *Sent:* Friday, August 16, 2019 7:55 AM > *To:* 'AnimalFarm

Re: [AFMUG] college students are too lazy

But it won't actually pick up the pizza piece and put it in your mouth? How are you supposed to eat with a game controller in your hand? Isn't this one of the units which spectacularly caught fire and was burning on a sidewalk a couple months ago? On 8/20/2019 10:38 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] college students are too lazy

They should have built in ovens… Gino Villarini Founder/President @gvillarini t: 787.273.4143 Ext. 204 m: [https://image.ibb.co/ctQ7jU/aeronet-logo.png] [https://image.ibb.co/noQeyp/inc500.png]

[AFMUG] college students are too lazy

Now robots will bring them pizza? I occasionally delivered pizzas when I was in college, it's a challenge to make several deliveries without the pizza getting cold, I don't see how a 4 mph robot can do it. Plus it can't climb stairs. I like this part: "building owners may eventually

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Medusa in 3.65

We are at decision time on what to do with the 320/ubnt 3ghz, same boat on decisions. LTE is a brand new horse to us, but the historic issues of interference frighten my more than walking in on my wife with another man when she should be doing laundry, I need clean work shirts. We had done some

[AFMUG] EPMP 3000 SFP Port

Is anyone using the SFP Port on the EPMP 3000? I have a site where I'm having lots of problems with the Copper Ethernet. The Ethernet port never bounces and will instantly negotiate any and all 1G, 100mb and 10mb data speeds, but I have a lot of packet loss getting to the AP. Ethernet

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Medusa in 3.65

Probably not applicable to PMP320, but with the Purewave basestations, I’m convinced many operators were setting them to max xmt power ignoring FCC limits on EIRP. That of course didn’t help upstream, and the CPE was fairly anemic. But downstream, I think that was part of the “magic”. I

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Medusa in 3.65

I agree on the PMP320's impressive tree penetration. We moved some sites from PMP320 to PMP450... with the added gain of the PMP450 reflector dish (8+11dBi vs the PMP320's 14dBi) I expected it to make up for the PMP450's lower transmit power, and as a result have "similar" final signal levels. In

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Medusa in 3.65

Yeah I think there's truth to both statements.  You'll lose something like 15db per 100 meters of foliage you're passing through.  No technological miracle is going to make that attenuation go away.  The difference in my reckoning is that most products would deliver crappy service when there's

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Medusa in 3.65

The other thing we found with the WiMax stuff (we had Purewave not 320), it was (in our experience) pretty much a best effort system. We couldn’t guarantee speed or latency, and we had to tell people no gaming or VoIP and your video might buffer. And it was very limited in how many

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Medusa in 3.65

Have you looked into TVWS ? Gino Villarini Founder/President @gvillarini t: 787.273.4143 Ext. 204 m: [https://image.ibb.co/ctQ7jU/aeronet-logo.png] [https://image.ibb.co/noQeyp/inc500.png]

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Medusa in 3.65

+1 On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 7:58 AM Josh Baird wrote: > Quite the opposite for us. PMP320 could burn through trees! > > On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 8:30 AM Ken Hohhof wrote: > >> WiMAX had little to no magical power against trees when we deployed it. >> Trees apparently are hype resistant. YMMV.

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Medusa in 3.65

Quite the opposite for us. PMP320 could burn through trees! On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 8:30 AM Ken Hohhof wrote: > WiMAX had little to no magical power against trees when we deployed it. > Trees apparently are hype resistant. YMMV. > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Paul McCall > *Sent:*

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Medusa in 3.65

WiMAX had little to no magical power against trees when we deployed it. Trees apparently are hype resistant. YMMV. From: AF On Behalf Of Paul McCall Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2019 4:22 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium Medusa in 3.65 We were told recently

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Medusa in 3.65

I think it’s mostly a matter of managing the expectations and what you want 3.65 to do.Both platforms overall capacity are degraded by customers with poor signals. LTE hangs on longer in low signal environments than 450. Cambium seems to do better in interference. If you have a area

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Medusa in 3.65

The only technical difference between the 450 and 450M in 3.65 that might help is mumimo in the uplink. I don’t think it will be better than LTE though. What you didn’t like about BlinQ? Gino Villarini Founder/President @gvillarini t: 787.273.4143 Ext. 204 m:

[AFMUG] Cambium Medusa in 3.65

We were told recently by Cambium that their Medusa product in 3.65 competes favorable with LTE competitors. We ONLY need it for tree penetration challenged customers. I have a healthy skepticism on 3.65 Medusa being able to magically work better that standard 2.4 Ghz penetration, seeing the