Re: [AFMUG] Linux traffic shaper with GUI?

2016-07-25 Thread Josh Reynolds
Not linux based (BSD!), but I concur it is a good solution if that's your bag. On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 10:11 PM, ccie4526 wrote: > PFsense does a pretty good job if you follow these directions: >

Re: [AFMUG] Linux traffic shaper with GUI?

2016-07-25 Thread ccie4526
PFsense does a pretty good job if you follow these directions: http://www.squidworks.net/2012/08/pfsense-2-0-limiting-users-upload-and-download-speeds-by-limiting-bandwidth/ I'm using it to limit public hotspot users up/down speeds per IP. On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 12:42 PM, Josh Luthman

Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I...

2016-07-25 Thread ccie4526
Just the B5c? Or is the B5 certified as well? We might need to change an order... I just received our 4.9GHz license a couple weeks ago. On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 4:23 PM, Jaime Fink wrote: > B5c in 4.9 GHz is Part 90 Subpart Y certified, should get you 200 Mbps+ > aggregate in

Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I...

2016-07-25 Thread Eric Kuhnke
I don't think it would be possible to meet the equivalent of ETSI class 3 with such a small antenna... They could easily (from a regulatory standpoint) allow higher Tx power for 24 GHz unlicensed FDD or TDD links if the antennas met a criteria of certain sidelobe dB falloff at specific number of

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i SyncPipe

2016-07-25 Thread George Skorup
I'm kinda torn on what I could use ASAP. Either the 12-port DIN rail or the rack mount. There are so many projects and I could really use both. I'd say whatever you're confident in that you can get going first, just do that and we will buy it. Ordered a couple of the GigE Power Injector + Sync

Re: [AFMUG] Short fiber trench

2016-07-25 Thread Chuck Hogg
Dont pull in. Fiber is not meant for that. On Monday, July 25, 2016, Jason McKemie wrote: > Are those pull-in only or do they have a chute blade available? I'd think > that it would be pretty difficult to pull-in 600' without breaking it into > sections. > >

Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I...

2016-07-25 Thread George Skorup
Be careful what you wish for. Remember that the Tx antenna on the AF24 is smaller/wider beam. On 7/25/2016 6:46 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: Naturally it's better than an AF24 (or even AF24HD) since the 24 band is limited to +0 Tx power... I would be really happy if the FCC and IC would permit 24

Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I...

2016-07-25 Thread Josh Reynolds
Streakwave lists 28 in stock. *Shrug* On Jul 25, 2016 7:50 PM, "SmarterBroadband" wrote: > Is it out now? I saw something that said September? > > > -Original Message- > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds > Sent: Monday, July

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i SyncPipe

2016-07-25 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
I know the pictures are on Debbie's short list, along with getting jumper setting instructions up on the website. The 1U model is a completely different beast. The underlying circuitry is the same, but at this point, the design integrates a new web interface (doesn't rely on sitemonitor base

Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I...

2016-07-25 Thread Jaime Solorza
Didn't know On Jul 25, 2016 6:15 PM, "Josh Reynolds" wrote: > Ubiquiti has a 4.9GHz AirFiber. > https://www.streakwave.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=AF-4X-USA===0 > > 17.1Mbps/MHz > > > On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 3:57 PM, SmarterBroadband > wrote: > > We

Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I...

2016-07-25 Thread SmarterBroadband
Is it out now? I saw something that said September? -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 5:14 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I... Ubiquiti has a 4.9GHz AirFiber.

Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I...

2016-07-25 Thread Josh Reynolds
Ubiquiti has a 4.9GHz AirFiber. https://www.streakwave.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=AF-4X-USA===0 17.1Mbps/MHz On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 3:57 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote: > We currently provide 100 meg to our local county offices on an AF24. > > > > They want us to move the

Re: [AFMUG] Anyone Installing Cat6 / really thick Cat5e?

2016-07-25 Thread Josh Reynolds
It depends. Each situation is different. For example, those who had 6/6A installed in office complexes to replace cat5/5e or in "Greenfield" will be okay as there is currently 1/2.5/5/10Gbps over copper, with 25 (and I think 50Gbps?) on the horizon using that cabling. No need to rewire the whole

Re: [AFMUG] Inverter / Charger UPS

2016-07-25 Thread SmarterBroadband
Good mix. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chris Fabien Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 4:25 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Inverter / Charger UPS Af24, terrabeam 60ghz radio, 3 mimosa b5s, 6 or so ubnt radios, an epmp backhaul, an hp switch, and a partridge in a

Re: [AFMUG] Anyone Installing Cat6 / really thick Cat5e?

2016-07-25 Thread Mathew Howard
I agree, I haven't ever been able to see a legit need for cat6. GigE works perfectly fine with cat5e, and if you anticipate needing anything beyond that, it's stupid to not just go straight to fiber. I've thought about using Cat6 on towers with long runs so there'd be less voltage drop on PoE, but

Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I...

2016-07-25 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Naturally it's better than an AF24 (or even AF24HD) since the 24 band is limited to +0 Tx power... I would be really happy if the FCC and IC would permit 24 GHz unlicensed PTP with higher Tx power, if they put a firm limitation on the quality of antennas for sidelobes and f/b ratio at least

Re: [AFMUG] OT if you are bored

2016-07-25 Thread Jaime Solorza
Don't know what bored feels like On Jul 25, 2016 4:18 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > This is an oldie but goodie. Science has almost caught up with sci fi > here. > > https://archive.org/stream/galaxymagazine-1954-04/Galaxy_1954_04#page/n7/mode/2up >

Re: [AFMUG] Inverter / Charger UPS

2016-07-25 Thread Chris Fabien
Af24, terrabeam 60ghz radio, 3 mimosa b5s, 6 or so ubnt radios, an epmp backhaul, an hp switch, and a partridge in a pear tree. On Jul 25, 2016 2:51 PM, "SmarterBroadband" wrote: > What gear do you have at that tower? > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com]

Re: [AFMUG] Anyone Installing Cat6 / really thick Cat5e?

2016-07-25 Thread George Skorup
We made an oops with this stuff. We normally run 13 cables for all new towers and retrofits. Did one recently with 1-1/4" conduit up a grain leg. 13 cables didn't exactly fit, but we persuaded it with lots of lube because it wasn't worth tearing it all out and starting over. So those cables

Re: [AFMUG] Anyone Installing Cat6 / really thick Cat5e?

2016-07-25 Thread Jay Weekley
Last I heard there was a 10 gig standard for Cat5 up to 40 meters. Bill Prince wrote: Not in my opinion. You can accomplish all you need with copper up to 1Gbps with 5e. You need to go faster or farther, you can go to fiber. bp On 7/25/2016 3:19 PM, Chuck McCown

Re: [AFMUG] OT if you are bored

2016-07-25 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
Are wisp owners ever bored? Lol...don't answer that Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: "Chuck McCown" To: Subject: [AFMUG] OT if you are bored Date: Mon, Jul 25, 2016 5:18 PM This is an oldie but goodie. Science has almost

Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I...

2016-07-25 Thread George Skorup
We have an ExtendAir G2 18Ghz at 2.5 miles on 2' dishes to a 100Mbps enterprise customer. It's definitely better than an AF24 in the rain. Of course it's at -34dBm RSL, too. I'm not real happy with Exalt and the G2 failures we've had, but this pair has been fine for the most part. To go 4.3

Re: [AFMUG] Anyone Installing Cat6 / really thick Cat5e?

2016-07-25 Thread Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc
Pulled that crap down many years ago and went back to Shireen 5e. If needed, we use fiber. Tyson Burris, President Internet Communications Inc. 739 Commerce Dr. Franklin, IN 46131 317-738-0320 Daytime # 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # Online: www.surfici.net What can ICI do for

Re: [AFMUG] Anyone Installing Cat6 / really thick Cat5e?

2016-07-25 Thread Bill Prince
Not in my opinion. You can accomplish all you need with copper up to 1Gbps with 5e. You need to go faster or farther, you can go to fiber. bp On 7/25/2016 3:19 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: I really dislike CAT 6. Is there a legit need for the stuff?

Re: [AFMUG] Anyone Installing Cat6 / really thick Cat5e?

2016-07-25 Thread Chuck McCown
I really dislike CAT 6. Is there a legit need for the stuff? From: Mathew Howard Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 4:12 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone Installing Cat6 / really thick Cat5e? We've started using DC-1042 for all our tower cable as well, and I'm pretty happy with it so far. I

[AFMUG] OT if you are bored

2016-07-25 Thread Chuck McCown
This is an oldie but goodie. Science has almost caught up with sci fi here. https://archive.org/stream/galaxymagazine-1954-04/Galaxy_1954_04#page/n7/mode/2up

Re: [AFMUG] Anyone Installing Cat6 / really thick Cat5e?

2016-07-25 Thread Mathew Howard
We've started using DC-1042 for all our tower cable as well, and I'm pretty happy with it so far. I really don't see the point in using cat6. On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 2:04 PM, George Skorup wrote: > I have no problems with GigE over 5e. Shireen DC-1042 shielded dry gel > tape

Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I...

2016-07-25 Thread Eric Kuhnke
ExtendAir G2? On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 2:32 PM, Sam Lambie wrote: > Exalt for the 23 gig gear. I think our cost was around 6500. > > On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 3:23 PM, Jaime Fink wrote: > >> B5c in 4.9 GHz is Part 90 Subpart Y certified, should get you 200

Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I...

2016-07-25 Thread Eric Kuhnke
SAF Integra 18 or 23 GHz 1024QAM in one polarity? Choose either the integrated antenna version or slipfit if you think you might want 3'/4' antennas or re-use the radios someday in the future for a longer link. County government, you're probably talking about a 36 month+ service term, so work

Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I...

2016-07-25 Thread Jaime Solorza
Check FCC rules... First responders and public safety first priority and other agencies follow. On Jul 25, 2016 3:53 PM, "SmarterBroadband" wrote: > Good to know, I will take a look. > > Is a county office OK to use 4.9? > > Adam > > > > *From:* Af

Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I...

2016-07-25 Thread SmarterBroadband
Good to know, I will take a look. Is a county office OK to use 4.9? Adam From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Fink Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 2:23 PM To: Jaime Solorza; af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I... B5c in 4.9 GHz is Part 90 Subpart Y

Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I...

2016-07-25 Thread Sam Lambie
Exalt for the 23 gig gear. I think our cost was around 6500. On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 3:23 PM, Jaime Fink wrote: > B5c in 4.9 GHz is Part 90 Subpart Y certified, should get you 200 Mbps+ > aggregate in it’s max allowable channel configuration in that band. Great > distance for

Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I...

2016-07-25 Thread Jaime Fink
B5c in 4.9 GHz is Part 90 Subpart Y certified, should get you 200 Mbps+ aggregate in it’s max allowable channel configuration in that band. Great distance for it. Jaime Fink • Mimosa • CPO & Co-Founder On July 25, 2016 at 2:18:33 PM, Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I...

2016-07-25 Thread Jaime Solorza
Our county folks have Cisco 4.9Ghz radios but are replacing with 3.65 GHz due to hundreds of Radwins used across border by state and federal agencies. I know Airaya had some 4.9GHz ptp solutions I know in 5GHz once they go up they stay up pretty solidly. On Jul 25, 2016 2:57 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I...

2016-07-25 Thread SmarterBroadband
who have you used? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sam Lambie Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 2:01 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I... 23 gig. Tell them that they can pay off the install costs in 6 payments over 6 months and swallow the cost of

Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I...

2016-07-25 Thread Sam Lambie
23 gig. Tell them that they can pay off the install costs in 6 payments over 6 months and swallow the cost of getting a great connection with room to grow... On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 2:57 PM, SmarterBroadband < li...@smarterbroadband.com> wrote: > We currently provide 100 meg to our local county

[AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I...

2016-07-25 Thread SmarterBroadband
We currently provide 100 meg to our local county offices on an AF24. They want us to move the link to another location will be a 4.3 mile link, so AF24 is out. I need a link to do 100 meg now and be able to do 200 when requested, I want five nines, so Licensed. Can I use 4.9 Ghz for

Re: [AFMUG] Do you logo/wrap your splice trailer?

2016-07-25 Thread Mark Radabaugh
I would probably wrap it. One big caution when hiring someone to wrap vehicles: Make sure the company doing it does NOT cut the paint on the vehicle when trimming the wrap. The morons that wrapped two of our vans used a razor knife to trim the wrap and scored the paint. Two years later

Re: [AFMUG] Do you logo/wrap your splice trailer?

2016-07-25 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Depends how many square feet you're doing, and if it's a full color printed wrap vs. vinyl lettering? like, an actual wrap, such as: http://carwrapsolutions.com/images/sprinter%20van%20wraps/Window%20Door%20Installation%20Vehicle%20Wrap.png or a monochrome logo and company name, URL, phone:

Re: [AFMUG] Do you logo/wrap your splice trailer?

2016-07-25 Thread can...@believewireless.net
$1,800 for sides and back with a wrap. On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 3:37 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > Depends how many square feet you're doing, and if it's a full color > printed wrap vs. vinyl lettering? > > like, an actual wrap, such as: >

Re: [AFMUG] Do you logo/wrap your splice trailer?

2016-07-25 Thread Paul Stewart
Does it last? In previous job we had some wrap done and it didn’t last well at all … expensive to get done and then within first year had issues - could have been supplier related, don’t know.. > On Jul 25, 2016, at 3:38 PM, can...@believewireless.net > wrote: >

Re: [AFMUG] Do you logo/wrap your splice trailer?

2016-07-25 Thread Ken Hohhof
I like the second one better anyway. From: Eric Kuhnke Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 2:38 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Do you logo/wrap your splice trailer? Depends how many square feet you're doing, and if it's a full color printed wrap vs. vinyl lettering? like, an actual wrap,

Re: [AFMUG] Do you logo/wrap your splice trailer?

2016-07-25 Thread Josh Luthman
Why the hell wouldn't you?!?! I wouldn't spend $5k but say $1500 will get you more than one or two installs that pay for it. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jul 25, 2016 3:30 PM, "can...@believewireless.net" <

[AFMUG] Do you logo/wrap your splice trailer?

2016-07-25 Thread can...@believewireless.net
Debating if it's worth the cost.

Re: [AFMUG] Anyone Installing Cat6 / really thick Cat5e?

2016-07-25 Thread George Skorup
I have no problems with GigE over 5e. Shireen DC-1042 shielded dry gel tape is our preferred tower cable. We use Primus shielded plugs and the conductors fit the channels fine. The cable diameter is a little bigger due to the gel tape, but it fits in the plug body even with the foil turned

Re: [AFMUG] Inverter / Charger UPS

2016-07-25 Thread SmarterBroadband
What gear do you have at that tower? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chris Fabien Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 5:20 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Inverter / Charger UPS We have an APS2012 at one of our main towers. Has been a solid performer for years.

Re: [AFMUG] Anyone Installing Cat6 / really thick Cat5e?

2016-07-25 Thread Adam Moffett
Back when I didn't know any better I would pull on the CAT6 divider with a pair of pliers so it came out of the jacket a little, then clip it off with dikes and let it fall back into the jacket. Without the extra width of the divider you can then crimp with a normal size plug. I realize now

Re: [AFMUG] Anyone Installing Cat6 / really thick Cat5e?

2016-07-25 Thread Eric Kuhnke
For indoor stuff regular 9/125 singlemode two strand is actually a lot less in $/meter than many types of cat6, cat6a or cat7... To the extent that the cable itself to do 1310nm/LX 10Gb optical is 1/4 the cost per meter than cat6a for 10GBaseT. If a properly installed cat5e cable qualifies for

Re: [AFMUG] Short fiber trench

2016-07-25 Thread Jason McKemie
Are those pull-in only or do they have a chute blade available? I'd think that it would be pretty difficult to pull-in 600' without breaking it into sections. On Monday, July 25, 2016, Joe Falaschi wrote: > We’ve used Toro Dingos with the vibratory plow for small projects like

Re: [AFMUG] Anyone Installing Cat6 / really thick Cat5e?

2016-07-25 Thread Josh Reynolds
Cat6/a has some nice anti-crosstalk features for large trays of cables (48 port switch or more, hundreds of runs, etc). Can also help with near end crosstalk. Can also help with POE if you're used to shitty cat5/e with small gauge wire. Also is good for short 10G runs. That said, most WISPs

[AFMUG] Anyone Installing Cat6 / really thick Cat5e?

2016-07-25 Thread Christopher Gray
I just picked up some Shireen DC-2021 Cat6 cable, thinking I would start using Cat6 for my Mimosa installations (as suggested). It turns out, the individual insulation is too big for any of my RJ45 ends, and the jacket is also too big. Now, I'm looking at Cat6A connectors (that have a staggered

Re: [AFMUG] Linux traffic shaper with GUI?

2016-07-25 Thread Josh Luthman
Mikrotik. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 1:39 PM, Peter Kranz wrote: > Anyone using a linux based traffic shaper to shaper customer connections > with a reasonably nice GUI? I was

[AFMUG] Linux traffic shaper with GUI?

2016-07-25 Thread Peter Kranz
Anyone using a linux based traffic shaper to shaper customer connections with a reasonably nice GUI? I was using WebHTB but I cannot get it to work with the latest Ubunutu 16.04.01 release anymore.. Peter Kranz www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile:

Re: [AFMUG] Short fiber trench

2016-07-25 Thread Joe Falaschi
We’ve used Toro Dingos with the vibratory plow for small projects like this. It was pretty easy and inexpensive to rent. Joe > On Jul 22, 2016, at 8:02 PM, Jason McKemie > wrote: > > Just trench it yourself if none of the property owners have an issue

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP hardware variants

2016-07-25 Thread Adam Moffett
Not a confirmed bug at any rate. Someone just said he had problems and that turning of WPA seemed to make his problem go away. -- Original Message -- From: "Admin" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 7/25/2016 9:13:51 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP hardware variants 2.6.2. I

Re: [AFMUG] Airfiber power draw on Netonix switch

2016-07-25 Thread Mathew Howard
I just checked the sitemonitor on one of ours, and it looks to be ranging from about 0.19a-0.24a @26.5vdc, so that's right in line with what you measured - and it's currently passing close to 100 meg of traffic. On Sun, Jul 24, 2016 at 11:50 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i SyncPipe

2016-07-25 Thread Matt
Forrest, how is the 1u syncinjector coming? When with the PowerInjector Plus images be updated? I imagine the 1u model is simply based on this? On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 9:39 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) < li...@packetflux.com> wrote: > Sadly, no.Cambium changed the port on the 450i

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP hardware variants

2016-07-25 Thread Josh Luthman
Thought it was here... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jul 25, 2016 9:13 AM, "Admin" wrote: > 2.6.2. I missed any mention of a WPA issue. Was that mentioned here, and > if so how long ago? > > > > *From:* Af

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP hardware variants

2016-07-25 Thread Admin
2.6.2. I missed any mention of a WPA issue. Was that mentioned here, and if so how long ago? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 4:28 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP hardware variants Is this with 2.6? There was a WPA

Re: [AFMUG] Airfiber power draw on Netonix switch

2016-07-25 Thread Jerry Head
Passing about 70 Meg last night and now passing about 15 meg. Still doing it. On 7/25/2016 2:09 AM, Robert wrote: Idle or transmitting at full speed? On 7/24/16 9:50 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: My notes: Wall is 123vac. Amp meter says 0.07a. 8.61 watts. This is the factory POE. POE spits out

Re: [AFMUG] Airfiber power draw on Netonix switch

2016-07-25 Thread Josh Luthman
Associated at 5320 passing some traffic Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jul 25, 2016 3:09 AM, "Robert" wrote: > Idle or transmitting at full speed? > > On 7/24/16 9:50 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > > My

Re: [AFMUG] Airfiber power draw on Netonix switch

2016-07-25 Thread Robert
Idle or transmitting at full speed? On 7/24/16 9:50 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: My notes: Wall is 123vac. Amp meter says 0.07a. 8.61 watts. This is the factory POE. POE spits out 24vdc. Amp meter said 0.23a. 5.52 watts. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite