Re: [AFMUG] AF5x troubleshooting

2016-10-18 Thread Chuck McCown
Oh, ... nevermind... -Original Message- From: Bill Prince Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 9:32 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF5x troubleshooting The AF5X is a connectorized version. The "peanut" design of other AFxx designs is not applicable. bp <part1

Re: [AFMUG] AF5x troubleshooting

2016-10-18 Thread Bill Prince
The AF5X is a connectorized version. The "peanut" design of other AFxx designs is not applicable. bp On 10/18/2016 8:17 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: AF has a non symmetry in the TX and RX antennas. If all the signal was coming out of the same antenna I would say that

Re: [AFMUG] AF5x troubleshooting

2016-10-18 Thread Stefan Englhardt
He is using AF5X Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Chuck McCown Gesendet: Dienstag, 18. Oktober 2016 17:18 An: af@afmug.com Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] AF5x troubleshooting AF has a non symmetry in the TX and RX antennas. If all the signal was coming out of the same antenna I

Re: [AFMUG] AF5x troubleshooting

2016-10-18 Thread Chuck McCown
AF has a non symmetry in the TX and RX antennas. If all the signal was coming out of the same antenna I would say that yes, it is hard to cause a non symmetry. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 9:15 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF5x troubleshooting RF paths

Re: [AFMUG] AF5x troubleshooting

2016-10-18 Thread Ken Hohhof
I start looking for zebras. If you have a spare radio, I would swap out the radio at the xmt end of the bad path. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 9:52 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF5x troubleshooting I

Re: [AFMUG] AF5x troubleshooting

2016-10-18 Thread Chuck McCown
I would bet on the tank causing problems. You need to be 10-20 or more wavelengths away from anything to get predictable results. From: Craig House Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 5:37 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF5x troubleshooting It's always been pretty accurate in the past

Re: [AFMUG] AF5x troubleshooting

2016-10-17 Thread Josh Luthman
If it were me I'd bring a change of hardware on the tx site (not from the screenshot, the other one transmitting). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 7:49 PM, Craig House wrote: > Yes

Re: [AFMUG] AF5x troubleshooting

2016-10-17 Thread Craig House
Yes -64 before I changed dishes and turned up the power a bit. Link planner showed -64 also. I'm getting it on all but one chain. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 17, 2016, at 18:46, Josh Luthman wrote: > > Do you remember what ideal was supposed to be? Hopefully

Re: [AFMUG] AF5x troubleshooting

2016-10-17 Thread Josh Luthman
Do you remember what ideal was supposed to be? Hopefully -64? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 7:44 PM, Craig House wrote: > The antennas were set to 23 DB antennas and I change

Re: [AFMUG] AF5x troubleshooting

2016-10-17 Thread Craig House
The antennas were set to 23 DB antennas and I change them up after I took this picture to 30 DBI dishes that I'm using. It did change the ideal signal but it didn't change the actual signal Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 17, 2016, at 18:41, Josh Luthman wrote: > >

Re: [AFMUG] AF5x troubleshooting

2016-10-17 Thread Josh Luthman
Do you have your power/antennas set right? Between those two points and the set power levels you're supposed to see -53... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 7:37 PM, Craig House

Re: [AFMUG] AF5x troubleshooting

2016-10-17 Thread Craig House
It's always been pretty accurate in the past and I have a pretty wide-open view I'm 85 feet up on the water tower that sits on a mountaintop on one end and I'm 200 feet up on the building roof top on the other end. The odd part is that I am achieving that -65 signal on at least one of the

Re: [AFMUG] AF5x troubleshooting

2016-10-17 Thread Josh Luthman
Doesn't include land cover I bet Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Oct 17, 2016 7:25 PM, "Craig House" wrote: > Wink planner shows that it supposed to be a -65 signal > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct

Re: [AFMUG] AF5x troubleshooting

2016-10-17 Thread Josh Luthman
Plug into LinkPlanner Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Oct 17, 2016 7:11 PM, "Craig House" wrote: > Very close to the top of the water tower on the remote end. It bottom of > the dish is resting on hr

Re: [AFMUG] AF5x troubleshooting

2016-10-17 Thread Craig House
Very close to the top of the water tower on the remote end. It bottom of the dish is resting on hr tank because the mount wasn't stable enough with all the wind here today 45mph. I'll raise it up and brace the mount tomorrow and see what happens. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 17, 2016, at

Re: [AFMUG] AF5x troubleshooting

2016-10-17 Thread Josh Luthman
Probably something in the path. If it was a jumper or dish it would be both sides the same loss. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Oct 17, 2016 7:03 PM, "David Kunat" wrote: > There are only two polarities on

Re: [AFMUG] AF5x troubleshooting

2016-10-17 Thread David Kunat
There are only two polarities on th af-x series. The first two are the receive signals at the local device. The second two (Rem chain0 and Rem chain 1) are the remote device receive levels (at the far end of the link). Is there something in the way? Are you shooting close to the ground or

[AFMUG] AF5x troubleshooting

2016-10-17 Thread Craig House
So when you have one chain that shows almost 20 dbi weaker than the other 3 how do you tell which end to troubleshoot? I have already tried to point both ends better but they are 22 miles apart by air. 45 minutes by drive and I dont want to just keep driving and climbing if someone can tell