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interested in the new timing over POE that the 450m is using. -Original Message- From: Sam Morris Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 7:26 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Logistics Lawsuit does not equal criminal. I can file a lawsuit against you. Anyone can sue anyone. Doesn't m

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+100 -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 9:32 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Logistics Guys, we really don't need another week of this. I have my opinions on all of this too but all of us have

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attack or not. I am guessing he was effective. All upper echelon politicians lie. The pigs gotta keep the sheep calm. *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza *Sent:* Thursday, November 10, 2016 8:21 AM *To:* Animal Farm *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Logistics trump c

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I believe Trump to be immoral, I believe the Clintons to be amoral. I believe Trump would cheat me in a business deal. I believe the Clintons would have me knocked off. Potato – Potatoe From: Bill Prince Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 5:31 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Logistics

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ther 9/11 attack or not. I am guessing he was effective. All upper echelon politicians lie. The pigs gotta keep the sheep calm. *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza *Sent:* Thursday, November 10, 2016 8:21 AM *To:* Animal Farm *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Logistics

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: Donnerstag, 10. November 2016 16:49 An: af@afmug.com Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Logistics  I dont understand it, we built a boatload of ebola camps in africa that are unused, why not stage the refugees there while theyre vetted. 99 percent of them are good folks, they need to get out of the warzone.

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  I am guessing he was effective.  All upper echelon politicians lie.  The pigs gotta keep the sheep calm.      From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2016 8:21 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Logistics   trump calls climate change

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nt:* Thursday, November 10, 2016 3:49 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Logistics Do you think he would pass up deals of personal relevance though? On Nov 10, 2016 4:47 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

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What the... Take the data, put it in excel for each year. Average it out per year. Drag that over from 2012 to 2018. What you will end up with is what I posted. This isn't "conflicted", these were the actual rates. I'm not talking about any other subject but tax rates, and income accounting

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the whole thing comes down to you using data sets that are a result of advice from the powers that be. The very same powers that be that say trumps economic plans will fail. the forecast you reference is based on a continuation of economics based on advise from the same powers that be. The

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So, let's address this piece by piece... "so which is it, 10 percent over 5-6 years or long term historical facts." It's both. I showed references for the historical context that included the more recent ones, and using that information you can make a reasonable assumption, if the trend

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so which is it, 10 percent over 5-6 years or long term historical facts. Of huge concern to me is a person using historical facts to predict a future that would only apply if the historic trends continued, yet refuses to accept change. I assume the "projections show that in 2018, the top 20% will

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I don't think I can reason with an individual who's not willing to consider well documented numbers as historical facts. I think you're far more comfortable trying to simply blame a sitting President then looking at a long term cancer that has been eroding this country over the past 50 years, and

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in 5 (well, 6) years, there is a 10% change, if there wasnt an abrupt alteration in the last two election cycles that would mean that about 48 years ago the wealth was evenly distributed. now, I wasnt around then, but I know in the sixties, there were some hippies with some similar rhetoric,

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That is true, but he is still under the same roof if I leave my wife and daughter there. :) Gilbert On 11/10/2016 10:06 AM, Bill Prince wrote: He was not running for president. And neither was Melania. bp On 11/10/2016 9:04 AM, Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr. wrote:

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gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Everything. I mean EVERYTHING is transactional to him. He is always >>>>>> looking to see how HE will benefit, to heck with anyone else. I do not >>>>>> see >>

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sactional to him. He is always >>>>> looking to see how HE will benefit, to heck with anyone else. I do not see >>>>> how that will change. We will soon see after his first major argument in >>>>> January, February, or March. >>>>> >>>

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his first major argument in >>>> January, February, or March. >>>> >>>> I'm betting that he will devolve into insults and innuendo soon enough. >>>> >>>> >>>> bp >>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>>&

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w he loves the attention and folks sucking up to him. Can’t think of a better job for that. *From:* Josh Reynolds *Sent:* Thursday, November 10, 2016 3:49 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Logistics

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>> >>> Be interesting to see the evolution. You know he loves the attention >>> and folks sucking up to him. Can’t think of a better job for that. >>> >>> *From:* Josh Reynolds >>> *Sent:* Thursday, November 10, 2016 3:49 PM >>> *To:* af@afmug

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ugh. >> >> >> bp >> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >> >> >> On 11/10/2016 2:58 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: >> >> Be interesting to see the evolution. You know he loves the attention and >> folks sucking up to him. Can’t think of a better j

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up to him. Can’t think of a better job for that. > > *From:* Josh Reynolds > *Sent:* Thursday, November 10, 2016 3:49 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Logistics > > > Do you think he would pass up deals of personal relevance though? > > On Nov 1

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, 2016 3:49 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Logistics Do you think he would pass up deals of personal relevance though? On Nov 10, 2016 4:47 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: I think Trump is more immune to influence buying sweetheart deals than any o

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Be interesting to see the evolution. You know he loves the attention and folks sucking up to him. Can’t think of a better job for that. From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2016 3:49 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Logistics Do you think he would pass up deals

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and is not > beholden to the party. > > *From:* Jon Langeler > *Sent:* Thursday, November 10, 2016 3:40 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Logistics > > When you have a non-politician that wins the office, and with a budget > that's less than half of the Democ

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I think Trump is more immune to influence buying sweetheart deals than any other president we have had. He truly has “f*ck you” money and is not beholden to the party. From: Jon Langeler Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2016 3:40 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Logistics When you

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conglomerate. I am willing to >> bet they have knocked off 500% more of their enemies than Trump has. >> >> From: Bill Prince >> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2016 9:37 AM >> To: af@afmug.com >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Logistics >> >> T

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m Morris <w...@csilogan.com > > > Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2016 7:56 AM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Logistics > > I'd like to see Ben in the Surgeon General position, or put in charge of > dismantling and replacing nobamacare. > > But the most-important

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2016 7:56 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Logistics I'd like to see Ben in the Surgeon General position, or put in charge of dismantling and replacing nobamacare. But the most-important position (to me anyhow) would be to ensure Trey Gowdy is made Attorney General. Sam On 11/9/2016 1

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"Before nobamacare, I couldn't afford health insurance. Now I still can't afford it, but I get fined for not being able to buy it." On 11/10/2016 1:23 PM, Jay Weekley wrote: It was just an experiment to see how pricing was where there were more companies participating. We only have one as

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It was just an experiment to see how pricing was where there were more companies participating. We only have one as well. Josh Reynolds wrote: Not in Alaska, there is only 1. On Nov 10, 2016 1:18 PM, "Jay Weekley" > wrote:

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Not in Alaska, there is only 1. On Nov 10, 2016 1:18 PM, "Jay Weekley" wrote: > Just for fun I ran the numbers from Las Vegas using Healthcare.gov and > rates were a lot cheaper. Probably due to the fact there are 3 companies > available. > > Josh Reynolds wrote: >

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Glanced at mine last night. I'm dropping about $60 - Original Message - From: Jay Weekley To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2016 1:17 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Logistics Mine is "only" going up about 30%. I had the Cadillac last year but had to

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Just for fun I ran the numbers from Las Vegas using Healthcare.gov and rates were a lot cheaper. Probably due to the fact there are 3 companies available. Josh Reynolds wrote: Same thing is happening up in Alaska. On Nov 10, 2016 11:52 AM, "Jerry Head"

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Mine is "only" going up about 30%. I had the Cadillac last year but had to reduce my coverage to keep within my budget this year. The cheapest package I can get for what I was getting 2 years ago is the catastrophic plan with a $6,500 deductible and no copays until it's met. Needless to say

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Same thing is happening up in Alaska. On Nov 10, 2016 11:52 AM, "Jerry Head" wrote: > Single provider only here in Alabama. > My policy is going to triple for 2017. > Bleh. > > On 11/10/2016 11:10 AM, Bill Prince wrote: > >> That's the number that I hear quoted. If

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Single provider only here in Alabama. My policy is going to triple for 2017. Bleh. On 11/10/2016 11:10 AM, Bill Prince wrote: That's the number that I hear quoted. If you have a reputable different number, then we can talk about that. It's reported to be going up here by about 5%. It's going

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I think a lot of people in a lot of high places are terrified that he can't be bought, and that's scary for the industries and companies he might oppose. On Nov 10, 2016 11:47 AM, wrote: > To be fair, Bernie isn't actually a socialist in the strictest sense. He's > had a pretty long career, an

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To be fair, Bernie isn't actually a socialist in the strictest sense. He's had a pretty long career, an honest career, and he's done a lot of good. You know what you're getting with him. I think it's very important for certain segments to keep pointing at him and yelling "SOCIALIST!", despite the

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November 10, 2016 9:37 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Logistics There is also the small matter of the 70-something law suits (currently) filed against the trumpster. The guy is a bigger criminal than the Clintons or the Bushes combined. He also lies a verified 500% more than Cli

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<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *Im Auftrag von *That One Guy /sarcasm *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 10. November 2016 16:49 *An:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] Logistics I dont understand it,

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k in other european countries. The income in bulgarian >>> is comparable to mexicans. >>> >>> >>> >>> Germany always pay money for Europe. Eastern countries get money until >>> they close up. You should see how and where e.g. VW produces c

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On 11/10/2016 9:15 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: I would prefer a single payer program. A few years before I am on Medicare, after that who cares as long as I get mine *From:* Bill Prince *Sent:* Thursday, November 10, 2016 10:12 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Logistics Perhaps that'

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willing to bet they have knocked off 500% more of their enemies than Trump has. *From:* Bill Prince *Sent:* Thursday, November 10, 2016 9:37 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Logistics There is also the small matter of the 70-something law suits (currently) filed against the trumpster

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come folks, the deductible is so high to be worthless. So they take > the fine instead. It simply does not work. The less literate someone is, > the greater the problem. In Utah I think we only have one provider left. > > It has been a failure. > > *From:* Bill Prince > *Sent:* Thu

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mug.com *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] Logistics I dont understand it, we built a boatload of ebola camps in africa that are unused, why not stage the refugees there while theyre vetted. 99 percent of them are good folks, they need to get out of the warzone. Men of fighting age should be the

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I would prefer a single payer program. A few years before I am on Medicare, after that who cares as long as I get mine From: Bill Prince Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2016 10:12 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Logistics Perhaps that's more to do with Utah? IDK. The way

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ve one provider left. It has been a failure. *From:* Bill Prince *Sent:* Thursday, November 10, 2016 10:00 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Logistics I don't agree with either of those statements. The trumpster lies because of ignorance. Maybe that's not quite lying, but perhaps just stupidi

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Well, there are rumors of a resurrection of AnimalFarm... -Original Message- From: Robert Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2016 10:03 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Logistics Chuck, Some time I would love to sit down and have a sprite with you, I think I might learn a lot

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is, the greater the problem. In Utah I think we only have one provider left. It has been a failure. From: Bill Prince Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2016 10:00 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Logistics I don't agree with either of those statements. The trumpster lies because of ignorance

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That's the number that I hear quoted. If you have a reputable different number, then we can talk about that. It's reported to be going up here by about 5%. It's going up more in some other states. None the less, the overall increase in the last 5 or 6 years is still less than what was

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He was not running for president. And neither was Melania. bp On 11/10/2016 9:04 AM, Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr. wrote: I have more issues with Hilary's husband.

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Solorza *Sent:* Thursday, November 10, 2016 8:21 AM *To:* Animal Farm *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Logistics trump calls climate change a hoax... Forget the physics or science... Has no foreign policy plan... Sound bites don't cut it... He won because of fear by biligaana, period. Country is very divided

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Jaime, Like Rory, I will bite as well. This election was about the corrupt politics on both sides of the aisle. Hilary was corrupt beyond measure. She barely got out of the primaries (She had help from her Party) against a SOCIALIST. A SOCIALIST!!! If Trump had some sort of filter, it would

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t; <part15...@gmail.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2016 11:00:58 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Logistics I don't agree with either of those statements. The trumpster lies because of ignorance. Maybe that's not quite lying, but perhaps just stupidity. Oh yeah. Let's get a stupid

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- Original Message - From: "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2016 11:00:58 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Logistics I don't agree with either of those statements. The trumpster lies because of ignorance. Maybe that's

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conglomerate. I am willing to bet they have knocked off 500% more of their enemies than Trump has. *From:* Bill Prince *Sent:* Thursday, November 10, 2016 9:37 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Logistics There is also the small matter of the 70-something law suits (currentl

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Prince Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2016 9:37 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Logistics There is also the small matter of the 70-something law suits (currently) filed against the trumpster. The guy is a bigger criminal than the Clintons or the Bushes combined. He also lies a verified

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One Guy /sarcasm Gesendet: Donnerstag, 10. November 2016 16:49 An: af@afmug.com Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Logistics I dont understand it, we built a boatload of ebola camps in africa that are unused, why not stage the refugees there while theyre vetted. 99 percent of them are good folks, they

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1 > attack or not. I am guessing he was effective. All upper echelon > politicians lie. The pigs gotta keep the sheep calm. > > > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On > Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza > *Sent:* Thursday, Nov

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ck or not. I am guessing he was effective. All upper echelon politicians lie. The pigs gotta keep the sheep calm. *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza *Sent:* Thursday, November 10, 2016 8:21 AM *To:* Ani

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f-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza *Sent:* Thursday, November 10, 2016 8:21 AM *To:* Animal Farm *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Logistics trump calls climate change a hoax... Forget the physics or science... Has no foreign policy plan... Sound bites don't cut it... He won because of fear by bil

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om the day > he took office to his most recent lies about not knowing about Hillary’s > server. > > We will never know if the Obama administration prevented another 9/11 > attack or not. I am guessing he was effective. All upper echelon > politicians lie. The pigs gotta keep

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h your neighbors. Even if you think your neighbor has the bigger benefit. *Von:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *That One Guy /sarcasm *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 10. November 2016 16:49 *An:* af@afmug.com *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] Logistics I dont understand it, we built a boatloa

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politicians lie. The pigs gotta keep the sheep calm. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2016 8:21 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Logistics trump calls climate change a hoax... Forget the physics or science... Has no foreign

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with your neighbors. Even if you think your neighbor has the bigger benefit. Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von That One Guy /sarcasm Gesendet: Donnerstag, 10. November 2016 16:49 An: af@afmug.com Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Logistics I dont understand it, we built a boatload

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Englhardt Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2016 10:42 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Logistics We got 1,000, refugees within 12 month. As you know germany is a lot smaller than US... A refugee is not neccesary there to stay forever. You help him to stay alive and as his country

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gt; > Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Sam Morris > > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 10. November 2016 16:00 > > An: af@afmug.com > > Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Logistics > > > > If Clinton said it, that in and of itself is enough to call that > statement

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-sandwich against Hillary and 4 more years of a corrupt government. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2016 8:21 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Logistics trump calls climate change a hoax... Forget the physics or science... Has

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November 2016 16:00 > An: af@afmug.com > Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Logistics > > If Clinton said it, that in and of itself is enough to call that statement > into > question. > > On 11/9/2016 12:09 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: > > Clinton said we can suppo

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I would leave him alone with my old lady and daughter, he raised up some fine kids bill and hillary, not a chance On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 9:20 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > trump calls climate change a hoax... Forget the physics or science... Has > no foreign policy

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trump calls climate change a hoax... Forget the physics or science... Has no foreign policy plan... Sound bites don't cut it... He won because of fear by biligaana, period. Country is very divided because he fueled these fears... Someone in class yesterday said we should respect him Another

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If Clinton said it, that in and of itself is enough to call that statement into question. On 11/9/2016 12:09 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: Clinton said we can support 600,000 syrian refugees today. Thats 6 percent today of the undocumented population we could migrate into citizens...today

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I'd like to see Ben in the Surgeon General position, or put in charge of dismantling and replacing nobamacare. But the most-important position (to me anyhow) would be to ensure Trey Gowdy is made Attorney General. Sam On 11/9/2016 11:27 AM, Jon Langeler wrote: Agreed. my wife is hoping he

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ical. The question >> got brought into the new biggest group that we are not just letting in, we >> are ushering them in from Syria as though they all are capable of working >> at Disney World tomorrow. >> >> >> >> J >> >> >> >> *From

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at >> Disney World tomorrow. >> >> >> >> J >> >> >> >> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com >> Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2016 10:34 AM >> To: af@afmug.com >> Subject: [AFMUG] Logi

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PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Logistics I really like your thought process in the first paragraph... Kind of. Having illegals show up to work on a project just "outs" them, so I can't see many showing up :) Having the unemployed show up as federal contracto

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they all are capable of working >> at Disney World tomorrow. >> >> >> >> J >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On >> Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com >> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 9, 2016 10

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group that we are not just letting in, we > are ushering them in from Syria as though they all are capable of working > at Disney World tomorrow. > > > > J > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On > Behalf Of *ch...@

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group that we are not just letting in, we are ushering them in from Syria as though they all are capable of working at Disney World tomorrow. J *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com *Sent:* Wednesday, November 9, 2016 10:34 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:*

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: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2016 10:34 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Logistics A wall is impractical. Ladder, shovel, spool of det cord. The wall stops nothing. People detectors are much more practical. Give the list

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Agreed. my wife is hoping he brings Ben Carson onto the team. Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. > On Nov 9, 2016, at 11:40 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm > wrote: > > the man ran against the dnc, the gop, and the media and won. doing things > previously thought

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the man ran against the dnc, the gop, and the media and won. doing things previously thought impossible by those stuck in a mindset of complacency is now his stock and trade On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 9:33 AM, wrote: > A wall is impractical. Ladder, shovel, spool of det cord. The

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A wall is impractical. Ladder, shovel, spool of det cord. The wall stops nothing. People detectors are much more practical. Give the list members a billion dollars and we will have a string of motion sensors and cameras that will get ‘er done. Vetting for religion or vetting for a