Re: [AFMUG] 24 GHz vs 11 GHz

Probably. I suppose I should ask. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 7:28 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 24 GHz vs 11 GHz Does the company you purchase your SAF stuff from do it, though? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet

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---------- > *From: *"Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Monday, February 12, 2018 7:53:14 AM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 24 GHz vs 11 GHz > > Saf does not > > On Feb 11, 2018 9:06 PM, "Adam Moffett&quo

Re: [AFMUG] 24 GHz vs 11 GHz

http://www.snappytelecom.net Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 8:52:35 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 24 GHz vs 11 GHz >

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day, February 12, 2018 7:53:14 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 24 GHz vs 11 GHz Saf does not On Feb 11, 2018 9:06 PM, "Adam Moffett" < dmmoff...@gmail.com > wrote: Trango did. They subbed out the coordination and licensing to Radyn, but I don't think they marked it up m

Re: [AFMUG] 24 GHz vs 11 GHz

> To: af@afmug.com Sent: 2/11/2018 8:52:36 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 24 GHz vs 11 GHz If I have been offered a package, I cannot remember it. If I turned it down it was because I could save money by not taking the package. So, if this exists, it exists. Does SAF do this? Last radios I put up

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Trango did. They subbed out the coordination and licensing to Radyn, but I don't think they marked it up much. -- Original Message -- From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: 2/11/2018 8:52:36 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 24 GHz vs 11 GHz If I h

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@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 24 GHz vs 11 GHz I am guessing you don't know this.. but every distributor that is selling license radios, offers a 'licensing coordination' package. In case of Mimosa, they actually have an arrangement with one of the coordinators to get the job done

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s in recent memory the > dealership also does everything necessary for obtaining the license plate too. > From: Faisal Imtiaz > Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 1:40 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 24 GHz vs 11 GHz > >>. I should have caveated that, b11 is cr

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ecessary for obtaining > the license plate too. > > *From:* Faisal Imtiaz > *Sent:* Sunday, February 11, 2018 1:40 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 24 GHz vs 11 GHz > > >>.I should have caveated that, b11 is crummy. > > Here is the part that I love

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the license plate too. From: Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 1:40 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 24 GHz vs 11 GHz >>.I should have caveated that, b11 is crummy. Here is the part that I love about the WISP's... Everyone is Opinionated to the Nth degree without expla

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ppytelecom.net Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > From: "Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 11:25:17 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 24 GHz vs 11 GHz

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ook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > -------------- > *From: *"Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Sunday, February 11, 2018 12:34:23 AM > *

Re: [AFMUG] 24 GHz vs 11 GHz

ebruary 11, 2018 12:34:23 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 24 GHz vs 11 GHz Seriously, these questions, please, please, please! State your rain region. Here,. id like to punch anybody in the eye who lies to you and tells you 24 GHZ is a good idea over 1.2 miles ( I dont care the KM Im mercan) but some

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...@gmail.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 12:34:23 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 24 GHz vs 11 GHz Seriously, these questions, please, please, please! State your rain region. Here,. id like to punch anybody in the eye who lies to you and tells you 24 GHZ is a good idea ov

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https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp/posts/1152763711515746 https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp/posts/956205354504917 Use those to provide some accuracy to your rain fade estimates. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers

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[mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of David Coudron Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 7:08 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 24 GHz vs 11 GHz Hey guys, Thanks a ton for the input. Looks like we got oversold on the distance from the link planning tools for 24 GHz. This conversation has been

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, 2018 11:13 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 24 GHz vs 11 GHz Our experience has been we get more throughput and more reliability from the AF11 than the B11. The B11s always seemed to be choking on high throughput. We gave up on them, and the AF11s are easier to license in congested

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...in utah On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 12:33 AM, Steve Jones wrote: > Seriously, these questions, please, please, please! State your rain > region. Here,. id like to punch anybody in the eye who lies to you and > tells you 24 GHZ is a good idea over 1.2 miles ( I dont

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Seriously, these questions, please, please, please! State your rain region. Here,. id like to punch anybody in the eye who lies to you and tells you 24 GHZ is a good idea over 1.2 miles ( I dont care the KM Im mercan) but some guy in a desert might tell you its an awesome idea at 6 miles, I dont

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Our experience has been we get more throughput and more reliability from the AF11 than the B11. The B11s always seemed to be choking on high throughput. We gave up on them, and the AF11s are easier to license in congested areas anyway. bp On 2/10/2018 5:12 PM,

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Yes, the AF11 can do more throughput on the same spectrum compared to the B11, but the B11 can use more spectrum (a lot more, granted), so it can do more throughput than the AF11 can. You can get close to a full gig in one direction with the B11 (assuming you can license enough spectrum), but you

Re: [AFMUG] 24 GHz vs 11 GHz

Yeah... a 6 mile 24ghz link would probably work, but it's going to be dropping pretty much every time it rains... and I'd be kind of surprised if you could even get airfiber 24s to link at 10 miles. Interference isn't really something you typically have to worry about on 24ghz, even though it's

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What others have said about distance. Short (up to 3 miles or so) 24 GHz. Medium (up to 8-9 miles) 18 GHz. Long (up to 20 miles) 11 GHz. Longest 6 GHz. I disagree with the B11 versus AF11. The AF11 will provide more throughput on less spectrum. Probably less expensive too. bp

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11Ghz 6-10 miles 24GZ good for 1-2miles in high rain fade areas, longer distance if you have backup and don't care about rain fade. >>>For 11 GHz, we would likely stay with the Mimosa product line Not a bad decision, depending on channel availability don't chalk off the

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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 24 GHz vs 11 GHz We had a lot of 4 mile+ links on AF24's that worked perfectly in ALASKA on the coast. Some places have more rain/hr than others. On Sat, Feb 10, 2018 at 5:11 PM, Adair Winter <ada...@amarillowireless.net> wrote: AF24 is only going to be 5 9's re

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We had a lot of 4 mile+ links on AF24's that worked perfectly in ALASKA on the coast. Some places have more rain/hr than others. On Sat, Feb 10, 2018 at 5:11 PM, Adair Winter wrote: > AF24 is only going to be 5 9's reliable to about 1-2 miles depending on > your

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AF24HD, 5 Miles Max in perfect conditions... On 02/10/2018 02:57 PM, David Coudron wrote: I know this topic has come up before, but thought I would throw it out again to hear additional thoughts as products continue to evolve. We have been doing primarily 5 GHz backhaul using Mimosa products

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AF24 is only going to be 5 9's reliable to about 1-2 miles depending on your rain zone. for 2-4 miles you could use 23Ghz (way more EIRP than 24Ghz) 4-8 miles 18Ghz 8-20 miles 11 Ghz and anything longer than that 6Ghz. unless you can mount really big dishes for 11. On Sat, Feb 10, 2018 at 5:05

Re: [AFMUG] 24 GHz vs 11 GHz

For 6-10 miles 24 ghz its way out of the question. Stick to 11 ghz. From: Af > on behalf of David Coudron > Reply-To: "af@afmug.com"