Yep
From: Jeremy
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2016 8:14 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Iptv
I looked at reselling the different options that were available at
WISPAPALOOZA. I don't understand how I am supposed to sell a service for $55 a
month (that DOESN'T include ESPN3), when
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Iptv
Jay I know you didn’t make it to the show, but we announced an IPTV solution
focused for WISP’s.
No $20k+ headend to purchase. We are using Roku boxes for the client devices –
we could roll our own but Roku is a great value and customers already have
them. Your
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From: "Jeremy" <jeremysmi...@gmail.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2016 9:14:01 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Iptv
I looked at reselling the different options that were available at
WISPAPALOOZA. I
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> *From:* Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Sent:* Sunday, October 23, 2016 8:07 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Iptv
>
> Football*
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions &
hah - that too
- Original Message -
From: Mike Hammett
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2016 8:07 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Iptv
Football*
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
Midwest Internet Exchange
The Brothers WISP
gt;
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> From: "CBB - Jay Fuller" <par...@cyberbroadband.net
> <mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>>
> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
> Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2016 8:06:15 AM
> Sub
Football*
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
Midwest Internet Exchange
The Brothers WISP
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From: "CBB - Jay Fuller" <par...@cyberbroadband.net>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2016 8:06:15 AM
Subject:
I am pretty sure in our market - we will not fly without some kind of tv
package.
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From: Josh Reynolds
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2016 1:11 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Iptv
The service we rolled out was identical to any cable system
UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> From: "Paul Stewart" <p...@paulstewart.org <mailto:p...@paulstewart.org>>
> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
> Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2016 6:13:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Iptv
>
> That’s pretty small for cloud
width. There is little margin in it and it is losing its
> ability to compete with OTT. Plus, if it has problems you get the black
> eye.
>
> From: Josh Reynolds
> Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2016 3:08 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Iptv
>
>
> You're not l
: [AFMUG] Iptv
You're not likely to run a full IPTV stack as a wisp. There's not enough
bandwidth. For a fiber co, its great.
Chuck has/had a thing he was looking at that works like Netflix as far as how
it streams that MIGHT work for SOME WISPs.
On Oct 22, 2016 3:44 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller&
does anyone record the home shopping network? lol
- Original Message -
From: Ken Hohhof
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2016 9:33 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Iptv
And my wife records the rest.
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike
And my wife records the rest.
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2016 9:08 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Iptv
Right, that's where I was going. There's only so much content that people
record.
-
Mike Hammett
<h
@afmug.com
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2016 9:00:10 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Iptv
Most users are recording the same stuff as others. Yes, this one used dedupe.
Single download is nice.
On Oct 22, 2016 6:14 PM, "Mike Hammett" < af...@ics-il.net > wrote:
Without dedupli
erswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> ----------
> *From: *"Paul Stewart" <p...@paulstewart.org>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Saturday, October 22, 2016 6:13:18 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Ipt
here in the central office here or something? i
>> guess?
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> *From:* Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Sent:* Saturday, October 22, 2016 4:06 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Iptv
>>
Without deduplication?
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
Midwest Internet Exchange
The Brothers WISP
- Original Message -
From: "Paul Stewart" <p...@paulstewart.org>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2016 6:13:18 PM
Subject:
re or something? i guess?
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Josh Reynolds <mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com>
> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
> Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2016 4:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Iptv
>
> Multicast bulk channels, u
ginal Message -
> *From:* Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 22, 2016 4:06 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Iptv
>
> Multicast bulk channels, unicast for on-demand or cloud DVR.
>
> On Oct 22, 2016 3:44 PM, "CBB - Jay Ful
That looks identical to the AT UVerse remote. Their STB is Cisco.
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2016 3:59 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Iptv
Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone
- Reply
No sir. Auburn as well :)
Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone
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From: "Bill Prince"
To:
Subject: [AFMUG] Iptv
Date: Sat, Oct 22, 2016 4:25 PM
Jay, is 'bama the only football you watch?
bp
On
Jay, is 'bama the only football you watch?
bp
On 10/22/2016 1:58 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:
Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone
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From: "That One Guy /sarcasm"
To: "af@afmug.com"
Subject:
have been thinking fiber
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From: Josh Reynolds
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2016 4:08 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Iptv
You're not likely to run a full IPTV stack as a wisp. There's not enough
bandwidth. For a fiber co, its great
cloud dvr stored somewhere in the central office here or something? i guess?
- Original Message -
From: Josh Reynolds
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2016 4:06 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Iptv
Multicast bulk channels, unicast for on-demand or cloud DVR
You're not likely to run a full IPTV stack as a wisp. There's not enough
bandwidth. For a fiber co, its great.
Chuck has/had a thing he was looking at that works like Netflix as far as
how it streams that MIGHT work for SOME WISPs.
On Oct 22, 2016 3:44 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller"
Multicast bulk channels, unicast for on-demand or cloud DVR.
On Oct 22, 2016 3:44 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller"
wrote:
>
> On a quick vacation to the beach.condo has centurylink prismwhich
> I assume is pretty similar to att uversewhich is iptv all over again.
>
it looks like wifi supports 2 gig or 5 gig
- Original Message -
From: That One Guy /sarcasm
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2016 3:51 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Iptv
worth looking at the gear theyre using if a multitenant location is
delivering iptv via wifi
worth looking at the gear theyre using if a multitenant location is
delivering iptv via wifi in hd and its working well its a curiousity
On Sat, Oct 22, 2016 at 3:44 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:
>
> On a quick vacation to the beach.condo has centurylink
ertainly do some good stuff!
>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Paul Stewart <mailto:p...@paulstewart.org>
>> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
>> Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 7:36 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPTV
>>
>> Fair enough .. altho
The original La Femme Nikita (USA 1997-2001 or so) was canada
Flashpoint was canada
they certainly do some good stuff!
- Original Message -
From: Paul Stewart
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 7:36 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPTV
Fair enough .. although movie
Yes, RCTV.
From: Paul Stewart
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2016 7:25 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPTV
So when you suggest HLS and no middleware, you are outsourcing?
If you want to have fun, HEVC+HLS is a great way to lose some hair ;)
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
So when you suggest HLS and no middleware, you are outsourcing?
If you want to have fun, HEVC+HLS is a great way to lose some hair ;)
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: July 5, 2016 9:08 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPTV
You have to groom
. The network is going to be used either way.
From: Josh Reynolds
Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 11:57 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPTV
As someone deploying one right now, it is far more network efficient than
stream/perViewer.
On Jul 4, 2016 11:51 PM, "Aaron Fitzgerald
6 7:42 PM
To: <mailto:af@afmug.com> af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPTV
There is going to have to be something new come to market. With the way things
are moving, it's not worth investing in a full setup like most companies are
using right now. The system Chuck is working on c
ul 4, 2016 at 9:31 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
>> Amen, been there done that. Forget IGMP based systems too.
>>
>> *From:* Jason McKemie <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>
>> *Sent:* Sunday, July 03, 2016 7:42 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
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> *Sent:* Sunday, July 03, 2016 7:42 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] IPTV
>
> There is going to have to be something new come to market. With the way
> things are moving, it's not worth investing in a full setup like most
> companies are using right
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> From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Monday, July 4, 2016 7:53:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG
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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: July 4, 2016 4:51 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPTV
To be fair, Canada isn't exactly a driving decision maker of United States
media content producers.
On Jul 4, 2016 3:48 PM, "Paul Stewar
Touche.
On Jul 4, 2016 6:53 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
> There is TV because TV was free.
>
> *From:* Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, July 04, 2016 5:51 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] IPTV
&g
There is TV because TV was free.
From: Josh Reynolds
Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 5:51 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPTV
If TV was free, there would be no TV.
On Jul 4, 2016 6:50 PM, "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
I am one of those that believe
If TV was free, there would be no TV.
On Jul 4, 2016 6:50 PM, "Bill Prince" wrote:
> I am one of those that believes that TV should be free. That's why we get
> ours OTA.
>
>
> bp
>
>
>
> On 7/4/2016 4:03 PM, Bruce Robertson wrote:
>
> The thing
I am one of those that believes that TV should be free. That's why we
get ours OTA.
bp
On 7/4/2016 4:03 PM, Bruce Robertson wrote:
The thing is, even with all my add-ons (HBO, Showtime and
no-commercial Hulu) I'm still paying /far/ less than I was for Dish or
of the other utilities to access ROWs.
>
> *From:* Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, July 04, 2016 4:18 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] IPTV
>
>
> Something else to mention: being affiliated with one of the larger content
>
Shouldn’t be, not in the US. If you are a BIAS provider, you have all the
rights of any of the other utilities to access ROWs.
From: Josh Reynolds
Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 4:18 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPTV
Something else to mention: being affiliated with one
On 7/4/16 15:48, Chris Fabien wrote:
So far it's the closest we have found to a product that is possible for
a small provider like us. We are considering launching with it. But I
still think it will be a stopgap measure to attract those customers who
think they need a bundle. Maybe thats okay if
The thing is, even with all my add-ons (HBO, Showtime and no-commercial
Hulu) I'm still paying /far/ less than I was for Dish or DirecTV.
On 07/04/2016 03:25 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
On 7/4/16 15:04, Bill Prince wrote:
You talking about HBO Go or HBO Now? Is that content worth $15/month?
I don't watch Silicon Valley (yet) but GoT is worth $15/mo. And you can
always turn it off like now, when the season is over.
On 07/04/2016 03:25 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
On 7/4/16 15:04, Bill Prince wrote:
You talking about HBO Go or HBO Now? Is that content worth $15/month?
HBO Go is
> to invest some money with the middleware provider for a license you can
> create your own packages.
>
> *From:* Jason McKemie <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, July 04, 2016 12:00 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] IPTV
>
> I'
But you'd have to pay me at least $30/month to force me to watch those
($15 each). They're probably not interested in that model ;-)...
bp
On 7/4/2016 3:25 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
HBO Now is worth it to me for Game of Thrones and Silicon Valley alone.
On 7/4/16 15:04, Bill Prince wrote:
You talking about HBO Go or HBO Now? Is that content worth $15/month?
HBO Go is the participating provider version i.e. cable provider. HBO
Now is standalone stream subscription version. I use a Roku.
HBO Now is worth it to me for Game of Thrones and
>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://globalnews.ca/news/1892474/canada-to-require-a-la-carte-television-service-by-december-2016/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Af
gt;>> It’s been mandated now in Canada for a la carte by end of year
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://globalnews.ca/news/1892474/canada-to-require-a-la-carte-television-service-by-december-2016/
>>>
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s/1892474/canada-to-require-a-la-carte-television-service-by-december-2016/
>>>
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>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds
>>> *Sent:* July 4, 2016 4:26 PM
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oun...@afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds
*Sent:* July 4, 2016 4:26 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] IPTV
I'm of the same opinion, however we are still 5+ years away
fro
lds
*Sent:* July 4, 2016 4:26 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] IPTV
I'm of the same opinion, however we are still 5+ years away
from that, at a minimum. Ten if you want ala-carte ESPN.
On Mon, Jul 4,
alnews.ca/news/1892474/canada-to-require-a-la-carte-television-service-by-december-2016/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds
>> *Sent:* July 4, 2016 4:26 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
.ca/news/1892474/canada-to-require-a-la-carte-television-service-by-december-2016/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds
> *Sent:* July 4, 2016 4:26 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] IPTV
>
: [AFMUG] IPTV
I'm of the same opinion, however we are still 5+ years away from that, at a
minimum. Ten if you want ala-carte ESPN.
On Mon, Jul 4, 2016 at 1:00 AM, Jason McKemie <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com
<mailto:j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> > wrote:
I'm of
I'm of the same opinion, however we are still 5+ years away from that, at a
minimum. Ten if you want ala-carte ESPN.
On Mon, Jul 4, 2016 at 1:00 AM, Jason McKemie <
j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
> I'm of the opinion that unbundling is the future, so even if the solution
> isn't
Yes
From: CBB - Jay Fuller
Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 8:58 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPTV
Same company?
http://www.realchoice.tv/
another seemed to be on facebook but their website was dead and no posts since
2015
- Original Message -
From: Chuck McCown
Same company?
http://www.realchoice.tv/
another seemed to be on facebook but their website was dead and no posts since
2015
- Original Message -
From: Chuck McCown
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2016 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPTV
I am still working
, 2016 12:00 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPTV
I'm of the opinion that unbundling is the future, so even if the solution isn't
perfect it should be a good stop gap that won't cost a ton of money to get
started with. I just can't see investing in a full headend and associated
Amen, been there done that. Forget IGMP based systems too.
From: Jason McKemie
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2016 7:42 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPTV
There is going to have to be something new come to market. With the way things
are moving, it's not worth investing in a full setup
: Monday, July 4, 2016 1:00:07 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPTV
I'm of the opinion that unbundling is the future, so even if the solution isn't
perfect it should be a good stop gap that won't cost a ton of money to get
started with. I just can't see investing in a full headend and associated
I'm of the opinion that unbundling is the future, so even if the solution
isn't perfect it should be a good stop gap that won't cost a ton of money
to get started with. I just can't see investing in a full headend and
associated infrastructure at this point in the game.
On Monday, July 4, 2016,
There are downsides to the solution he has as well. It all depends on how
much control you need, and if X channel is important to your subscriber
base or not. It also depends on the feature set you want to offer your
customers (to truly compete with cable cos).
On Jul 3, 2016 8:42 PM, "Jason
There is going to have to be something new come to market. With the way
things are moving, it's not worth investing in a full setup like most
companies are using right now. The system Chuck is working on could be
worthwhile when available.
On Sunday, July 3, 2016, Aaron Fitzgerald
That transport we talked about and I can arrange a cross connect to one. ;-)
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
Midwest Internet Exchange
The Brothers WISP
- Original Message -
From: "Aaron Fitzgerald"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Sunday,
Chuck can you send me their info offlist? Thanks!
On Jul 3, 2016 10:55 AM, "Chuck McCown" wrote:
> I am still working on it. Realchoice tv is up and working well provided
> you have a VLAN to their headend signal. They are talking to a larger tier
> 2 provider about
I am still working on it. Realchoice tv is up and working well provided you
have a VLAN to their headend signal. They are talking to a larger tier 2
provider about nationwide access for $300/month.
From: Aaron Fitzgerald
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2016 9:52 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject:
Arrgh, that was supposed to be off list...
CQ, Calling Craig Baird
-Original Message-
From: Chuck McCown
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2015 12:36 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] IPTV Headend
Hi Craig,
Do you have a TV headend in St. Geo or surrounding area?
Chuck
Here is a link to all IPTV stuff I have been reading
http://www.globalvisionmag.com/?s=IPTVx=8y=14
Jaime Solorza
On Jan 2, 2015 3:21 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
Do they consider OTT IPTV?
*From:* Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com
*Sent:* Friday, January 02, 2015 2:54
Do they consider OTT IPTV?
From: Jaime Solorza
Sent: Friday, January 02, 2015 2:54 PM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: [AFMUG] IPTV growth
According to article 50% in US this year
Jaime Solorza
-
From: Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Fri, 02 Jan 2015 16:21:35 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPTV growth
Do they consider OTT IPTV?
From: Jaime Solorza
Sent: Friday, January 02, 2015 2:54 PM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: [AFMUG] IPTV growth
According to article 50
They'd have to for those numbers.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
- Original Message -
From: Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Fri, 02 Jan 2015 16:21:35 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPTV growth
Do they consider OTT IPTV
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