Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents

2018-04-18 Thread Bill Prince
I have zero experience in that regard. My youth was pure and unaffected by alcohol or pot. I didn't get exposed to pot until my early 20s well past college, and I was kind of like Bill Clinton. I smoked it, but didn't inhale. It never appealed to me, and I have not indulged in several decades.

Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents

2018-04-18 Thread Robert Andrews
I didn't think so until I read a blog from a heavy user after legalization. This was a lifelong user that went "over the top" when he became a) rich b) legal.Basically after a 3 month bender it took 6 months to clear his system from testing positive and his mind to be clear enough to

Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents

2018-04-18 Thread chuck
, April 18, 2018 12:00 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents I know it "sticks around", but I'm not so sure the side effects are still there (I am not an authority, but this is what I've read). That has been and still is the challenge. I've seen th

Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents

2018-04-18 Thread Bill Prince
I know it "sticks around", but I'm not so sure the side effects are still there (I am not an authority, but this is what I've read). That has been and still is the challenge. I've seen things about the development of a test to determine if someone is still under the influence, but to date the

Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents

2018-04-18 Thread Robert Andrews
sion of the spine, harrington rods, 14 lag screws into her >> vertebrae). >> But she didn't get hooked. Claimed it worked really well. >> >> -Original Message- F

Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents

2018-04-18 Thread Josh Reynolds
poor investment. > > > -- Original Message -- > From: "Forrest Christian (List Account)" <li...@packetflux.com> > To: "af" <af@afmug.com> > Sent: 4/18/2018 12:45:27 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents > > You also avoid some of

Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents

2018-04-18 Thread chuck
He didn’t as I recall. I think that if he got busted for a little as smoking or having a joint it was going to be 15 years. From: Dave Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 9:12 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents WOW.. I hope he didnt fail his piss test

Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents

2018-04-18 Thread Adam Moffett
<af@afmug.com> Sent: 4/18/2018 12:45:27 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents You also avoid some of the issues with questionable quality/potency, and the related poisioning/overdose deaths. If one was to redirect all of the funds spent on the war on drugs (law enforc

Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents

2018-04-18 Thread Dave
*To:* af *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents You also avoid some of the issues with questionable quality/potency, and the related poisioning/overdose deaths. If one was to redirect all of the funds spent on the war on drugs (law enforcement, prisons, etc) into mental health

Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents

2018-04-18 Thread chuck
thing he he said to me: “Fuck Chuck, I could go kill someone and get out of jail faster than if I fail this piss test”. From: Forrest Christian (List Account) Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 10:45 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents You also avoid some of the issues

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2018-04-18 Thread Mitch Koep
Steve I feel for you We took our granddaughter when she was 9 months old and she just turned 8 When son was busted for Meth Last two years alone the step son got 2500.00 for attorney, a 5000.00  car, 1800.00 for a no insurance ticket. Before that I was done BUT wife's son so rather than

Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents

2018-04-18 Thread Jason McKemie
-Original Message- From: Jay Weekley > Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 12:08 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents > > > I understand opiods, Xanax and pot but meth just doesn't sound like fun > and bath salts has to be the lowest of lows.

Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents

2018-04-17 Thread Josh Reynolds
2018, 2:21 PM Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I thought I heard somewhere that any use of Meth, even once, >>>>>>>>>>> permanently &

Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents

2018-04-17 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
gt;> alters the brain chemistry. So it's not a 'recreational' drug, >>>>>>>>>> and why >>>>>>>>>> it's so addictive. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 4/17/2018 2:11 PM, Jay Weekley

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2018-04-17 Thread Josh Reynolds
;>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I thought I heard somewhere that any use of Meth, even once, >>>>>>>>>>> permanently >>>>>>>>>>> al

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2018-04-17 Thread Steve Jones
;>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 4/17/2018 2:11 PM, Jay Weekley wrote: >>>>>>>>>> > Anything that makes me not want to eat or sleep isn't for me. >>>>>>>>>> I like >>>>>>>>>>

Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents

2018-04-17 Thread Josh Reynolds
so addictive. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 4/17/2018 2:11 PM, Jay Weekley wrote: >>>>>>>>> > Anything that makes me not want to eat or sleep isn't for me. I >>>>>>>>> like >>>>&g

Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents

2018-04-17 Thread Steve Jones
oo much. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Chuck McCown wrote: >>>>>>>> >> If I am going to use bath salts, they are called Epsom and they >>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>> >> dissolved

Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents

2018-04-17 Thread Josh Reynolds
gt; >>>>>>> >> I was prescribed Xanax once. Made me sleepy. >>>>>>> >> Pot was not my thing back in the 70s... >>>>>>> >> (I preferred Olympia, Blitz, Rainier, Hamms, Miller, Heineken, >>>>>>> Henry

Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents

2018-04-17 Thread Steve Jones
ympia, Blitz, Rainier, Hamms, Miller, Heineken, >>>>>> Henry >>>>>> >> Winehards Private Reserve...) >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> Not really sure what meth does to you but I know it is horribly >>>>>>

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2018-04-17 Thread Josh Reynolds
rribly >>>>> >> addictive and ruins everyone that gets hooked. >>>>> >> I guess it is a version of speed. But no direct experience with >>>>> that >>>>> >> either. Not wanting anything that cause my hear to race. &

Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents

2018-04-17 Thread Steve Jones
eed. But no direct experience with >>>> that >>>> >> either. Not wanting anything that cause my hear to race. >>>> >> Coke Zero does that enough for me. >>>> >> >>>> >> My wife lived on Oxy after a pair of hor

Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents

2018-04-17 Thread Josh Reynolds
. But no direct experience with that >>> >> either. Not wanting anything that cause my hear to race. >>> >> Coke Zero does that enough for me. >>> >> >>> >> My wife lived on Oxy after a pair of horrific surgeries >>> >> (dec

Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents

2018-04-17 Thread Steve Jones
ng that cause my hear to race. >> >> Coke Zero does that enough for me. >> >> >> >> My wife lived on Oxy after a pair of horrific surgeries >> >> (decompression of the spine, harrington rods, 14 lag screws into her >> >> vertebrae). >>

Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents

2018-04-17 Thread Josh Reynolds
cause my hear to race. > >> Coke Zero does that enough for me. > >> > >> My wife lived on Oxy after a pair of horrific surgeries > >> (decompression of the spine, harrington rods, 14 lag screws into her > >> vertebrae). > >> But she didn't get

Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents

2018-04-17 Thread Adam Moffett
rform some sort of function as an actual bath salt. I would think that would be a pre-requisite for the loophole to function. -- Original Message -- From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: 4/17/2018 2:18:54 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scum

Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents

2018-04-17 Thread Chuck McCown
Yep, like a bad piece of firmware. It is a root kit for the brain. -Original Message- From: Nate Burke Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 1:21 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents I thought I heard somewhere that any use of Meth, even once, permanently

Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents

2018-04-17 Thread Nate Burke
, 2018 12:08 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents I understand opiods, Xanax and pot but meth just doesn't sound like fun and bath salts has to be the lowest of lows. Granted, all I know about bath salts are the videos I've come across. Steve Jones wrote

Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents

2018-04-17 Thread Jay Weekley
it worked really well. -Original Message- From: Jay Weekley Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 12:08 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents I understand opiods, Xanax and pot but meth just doesn't sound like fun and bath salts has to be the lowest of lows. Granted

Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents

2018-04-17 Thread Josh Reynolds
War is ok though. On Tue, Apr 17, 2018, 1:39 PM justsumname wrote: > some people thought voting at 18 was a good idea. > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 2:19 PM, Steve Jones > wrote: > >> yeah, can you imagine if a kid had got into that stuff >> >> On

Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents

2018-04-17 Thread justsumname
some people thought voting at 18 was a good idea. On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 2:19 PM, Steve Jones wrote: > yeah, can you imagine if a kid had got into that stuff > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 1:08 PM, Jay Weekley > wrote: > >> I understand

Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents

2018-04-17 Thread Steve Jones
yeah, can you imagine if a kid had got into that stuff On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 1:08 PM, Jay Weekley wrote: > I understand opiods, Xanax and pot but meth just doesn't sound like fun > and bath salts has to be the lowest of lows. Granted, all I know about > bath salts

Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents

2018-04-17 Thread Chuck McCown
To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents I understand opiods, Xanax and pot but meth just doesn't sound like fun and bath salts has to be the lowest of lows. Granted, all I know about bath salts are the videos I've come across. Steve Jones wrote: They released the report

Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents

2018-04-17 Thread Jay Weekley
I understand opiods, Xanax and pot but meth just doesn't sound like fun and bath salts has to be the lowest of lows. Granted, all I know about bath salts are the videos I've come across. Steve Jones wrote: They released the report, they seized appox 70 grams of xanax, 16 doses od suboxone

Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents

2018-04-17 Thread Steve Jones
They released the report, they seized appox 70 grams of xanax, 16 doses od suboxone (essentially heroin) 11.8 grams of bath salts. other misch controlled substance pills as well as delivery of meth charges. fucking bath salts On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 8:18 AM, Dave wrote: > I

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2018-04-16 Thread Dave
I hear the same shit as lewis and the sheriff mentioned that Every vehicle that is pulled over has some form of drug or paraphernalia in it. Meth is the demon drug that will cause even the most humble become demented. A peer of my rank in the army said "That some were just not meant to breed!"

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2018-04-15 Thread Lewis Bergman
I think Meth answers all your "why" questions. Since I deal with almost every sheriff in and most every drug focused law enforcement I hear a lot of their stories. One of them tells me that 95%+ of crime is drug related. CPS type problems they put at about 80% with the remaining 15% made of of

Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents

2018-04-15 Thread Chuck McCown
I had a similar situation. Rather my wife did. We took the kids in (her sister’s kids). Very similar situation, neglected, abused, drugs etc. One of the parents got them back for a while, then the other. Those kids still think of my wife as “mom”. They are all grown up with grandkids of

Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents

2018-04-14 Thread Steve Jones
Yeah, when i was young went with a buddy to smoke pot. Was hitting the bong when a little girl, like 2 walks in. I try hiding it, but theyre like "its ok, she always hangs out" or something like that, i left. Turns out this little girl is the mom. Garbage in garbage out On Sun, Apr 15, 2018,

Re: [AFMUG] OT: very OT. Scumbag parents

2018-04-14 Thread Josh Reynolds
A lot of people have a poor sense of responsibility that ends up with them having kids, often at a young age. Unfortunately roughly half, based on my experience, never grow into that responsibility. Then their kids do the same, etc... Shitty cycle. Props to you for trying to do the right thing