[AFMUG] Vivint

2016-03-29 Thread Chuck McCown
Didn’t know they had retail.

Re: [AFMUG] mounting brackets / hardware for 4 epmp sectors on a rohn 45/

2016-03-29 Thread Josh Luthman
Give as much physical separation as possible. On a Rohn45 I would probably just do 10 feet of vertical spacing. AB @ 100' and AB @ 110'. For ePMP AB needs a guard band of 5 MHz, unfortunately. pmp450 could be adjacent. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Trump in Utah

2016-03-29 Thread Ken Hohhof
It seems the latest trend is to put Tannerite in the rusting car body before shooting at it, so it explodes, and the shrapnel dismembers some of your body parts. -Original Message- From: Jerry Head Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 10:02 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT

Re: [AFMUG] DKIM and incoming emails / spamassassin

2016-03-29 Thread Mike Hammett
Friends don't let friends use GMail for things they care about? :-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Josh Reynolds" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, March 29,

Re: [AFMUG] IPV4 address space Cost

2016-03-29 Thread SmarterBroadband
I bought a /21 for $8 per address from ipv4auctions late last year. All went smoothly. Adam From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Baird Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 6:40 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPV4 address space Cost To acquire your own IPv4 from a

Re: [AFMUG] door access control

2016-03-29 Thread Jaime Solorza
Access Pro...I can get them at decent prices.. On Mar 28, 2016 4:52 PM, "Josh Reynolds" wrote: > I'm dying here. Every single system I can find is shit or costs an arm > and a leg, to the point where I'm considering starting a company to > make a better system. I just need

Re: [AFMUG] IPV4 address space Cost

2016-03-29 Thread Steve
Holy crap /22 10k I knew this would happen. Its going to go through the roof most likely. - Original Message - From: "Matt" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 11:05:07 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPV4 address space Cost One auction site.

Re: [AFMUG] Vivint

2016-03-29 Thread Daniel White
Many Verizon stores I’ve been in have a Vivint display. Daniel White afmu...@gmail.com Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 11:21 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Vivint

Re: [AFMUG] Vivint

2016-03-29 Thread Jon Paul Kelley
I would not sell Vivint on a bet, if they gave me all the equipment and I made a 100% markup. I had Vivint alarm service and have been trying to cancel it for about 6 months, but they refuse to cancel the service, no matter how many times that I send them the information that they request for

Re: [AFMUG] Smart Meters

2016-03-29 Thread Jerry Head
The Southern Company (Alabama Power) rolled them out in my area a few years ago but they used licensed 900, something like 901.45. I did not notice any adverse effects on my network. They did ask me recently to change channels on one of my FSK Access Points. It was on 906 and they said it was

Re: [AFMUG] POE + standard

2016-03-29 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
Does poe+ mean 802.3at? If so, it's probably looking for a 802.3at signature before turning on power, which the cambium won't provide. On Mar 29, 2016 11:55 AM, "Paul McCall" wrote: > > > Is it possible to get a device not specifically designed for a POE + > injector to work

Re: [AFMUG] POE + standard

2016-03-29 Thread Josh Reynolds
802.3at == POE+ , yes On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 1:14 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote: > Does poe+ mean 802.3at? If so, it's probably looking for a 802.3at > signature before turning on power, which the cambium won't provide. > > On Mar 29, 2016 11:55 AM, "Paul

[AFMUG] New One - 450 AP Issue

2016-03-29 Thread Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc
Ok Geeks, Just had a single 450 AP drop all it's 430 Interop. SM's over the past 24 Hrs. Tired of repeating myself a dozen times over and over again with Cambium support. It's very simple. If you can solve it great. -AP has been working with 13.4 for 6+ months (actually really well)

Re: [AFMUG] New One - 450 AP Issue

2016-03-29 Thread Ken Hohhof
I would stay on 13.2.1 until 14.1.2 official which should be soon. Not sure it explains your exact problem, but there were various problems with 13.3 onward so I don’t think many people are using those. I don’t remember the exact problems with 13.4, I know 13.3 broke alignment tone so it was

[AFMUG] LTE testing seen in downtown Seattle

2016-03-29 Thread Eric Kuhnke
http://m.imgur.com/a/FSEHW Not quite sure what kind of weird setup requires a 1:1 ratio of laptops to phones for data logging...

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy FSK intigrated AP atenna specs.

2016-03-29 Thread Brandon Yuchasz
Yeah I think they abandoned the filters fairly early on. I have never seen one in them. Either way though I can’t find any specs online that lists the F/B ratio. I suspect its poor but I’m not positive. Best regards, Brandon Yuchasz GogebicRange.net www.gogebicrange.net

Re: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio?

2016-03-29 Thread Eric Kuhnke
There are not a lot of telecom satellites that talk to each other in orbit. 98% of what is out there in geostationary orbit operates as a "bent pipe" angled repeater/amplifier between terminals and large earth stations. Iridium satellites in LEO use the Ka band to trunk connections with each

[AFMUG] Canopy FSK intigrated AP atenna specs.

2016-03-29 Thread Brandon Yuchasz
I have a small location with an FSK 900mhz Omni horizontal pol with 6 customers on it. I don't expect it to ever increase in numbers. We have some issues at the site because we are co-located with a SCADA system on the vertical pol in 900mhz. I am planning to work with the city to see if they are

Re: [AFMUG] LTE testing seen in downtown Seattle

2016-03-29 Thread Jaime Solorza
Different LTE bands? On Mar 29, 2016 2:45 PM, "Eric Kuhnke" wrote: > http://m.imgur.com/a/FSEHW > > Not quite sure what kind of weird setup requires a 1:1 ratio of laptops to > phones for data logging... >

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy FSK intigrated AP atenna specs.

2016-03-29 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Theyre the same antenna as the integrated subscriber, but there is a filter in there too On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 3:53 PM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote: > I have a small location with an FSK 900mhz Omni horizontal pol with 6 > customers on it. I don’t expect it to ever increase

Re: [AFMUG] Spam:******, Re: New One - 450 AP Issue

2016-03-29 Thread Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc
Thanks for the response. This was resolved. The 430 SM’s will only connect on a frame of 2.5ms. Not sure if that is a FW issue or not, but that is what our problem was. Tyson Burris, President Internet Communications Inc. 739 Commerce Dr. Franklin, IN 46131 317-738-0320 Daytime #

Re: [AFMUG] Vivint

2016-03-29 Thread Josh Luthman
I had one of those. I cancelled the card and called all the vendors for a new one (right around 12 months ago in fact). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 2:02 PM, Jon Paul Kelley

Re: [AFMUG] POE + standard

2016-03-29 Thread Paul McCall
No light with nothing plugged in. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 2:09 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] POE + standard Does the edgepoint show a light without the cable being plugged in? From: Paul

Re: [AFMUG] POE + standard

2016-03-29 Thread Chuck McCown
Does the edgepoint show a light without the cable being plugged in? From: Paul McCall Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 11:55 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] POE + standard Is it possible to get a device not specifically designed for a POE + injector to work off that? I have tried a

Re: [AFMUG] New One - 450 AP Issue

2016-03-29 Thread Chuck McCown
Just go replace the 430s with 450s, sheesh, do I have to think of everything. From: mailto:t...@franklinisp.net Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 1:07 PM To: memb...@wispa.org ; af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] New One - 450 AP Issue Ok Geeks, Just had a single 450 AP drop all it’s 430 Interop.

Re: [AFMUG] Spam:******, Re: New One - 450 AP Issue

2016-03-29 Thread Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc
LOL. Ok Mr. Obvious. Tyson Burris, President Internet Communications Inc. 739 Commerce Dr. Franklin, IN 46131 317-738-0320 Daytime # 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # Online: www.surfici.net What can ICI do for you? Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh

[AFMUG] POE + standard

2016-03-29 Thread Paul McCall
Is it possible to get a device not specifically designed for a POE + injector to work off that? I have tried a device (namely a 320AP with the pin 4 and 8 swapped to provide the proper + - on 4, 5 and +- on 7,8) and the POE device (actually an edgepoint S16) doesn't seem to react to it. I

Re: [AFMUG] New One - 450 AP Issue

2016-03-29 Thread Sean Heskett
are you using RADIUS? there are known issues with 13.4 and RADIUS. 13.2.1 and 14.1.2(build 8) are the only "stable" software releases for the 450AP in my opinion. -sean On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 1:07 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc wrote: > Ok Geeks, > > >

Re: [AFMUG] POE + standard

2016-03-29 Thread Paul McCall
Does Cambium's new 450 gear (APs) support POE + ? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 1:56 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] POE + standard Is it possible to get a device not specifically designed for a POE + injector to work off

Re: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio?

2016-03-29 Thread Mike Hammett
After getting a chance to catch up, it looks like they offer that platform in both 40 GHz and 70\80, so perhaps range is in best case on 40? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Jaime

[AFMUG] OT: Decent Wideband Communications Receiver

2016-03-29 Thread cjwstudios
Hi Folks, Tonight I was having a wistful moment desiring to fiddle with the knobs of a wideband communications receiver and listen to jibber jabber from far-off-lands. Back In The Day we had heath kit, yeasu, drake, realistic, and grundig that would provide hours of enjoyment. Can anyone

Re: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio?

2016-03-29 Thread Daniel White
I read somewhere that 60GHz is commonly used in satellite to satellite communication due to low probability of intercept and no chance of interference/jamming from Earth based transmitters. No oxygen absorption or rain fade in outer space. Daniel White

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Decent Wideband Communications Receiver

2016-03-29 Thread Mike Hammett
This is my friend JJ's project. http://3dbsdr.com/ - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "cjwstudios" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 5:43:38 AM

Re: [AFMUG] door access control

2016-03-29 Thread Steve
http://www.highpowersecurity.com/ Little expensive. But its POE as well. Yeah its windoze based software too but it works fine. - Original Message - From: "Josh Reynolds" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, March 28, 2016 6:52:36 PM Subject: [AFMUG] door access

Re: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio?

2016-03-29 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Did you actually scroll down to the last page . where the expected ranges for the different rain zones are listed ? :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

Re: [AFMUG] Wisper Contact

2016-03-29 Thread Mike Hammett
They are pretty active on social media. I did send Jason the contact information I had for Nathan and their CTO. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Colin Stanners"

Re: [AFMUG] Super long rack screw

2016-03-29 Thread Chuck McCown
Add mounting ears farther back on the switch. -Original Message- From: Sterling Jacobson Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 7:57 PM To: 'af@afmug.com' Subject: [AFMUG] Super long rack screw This is really specific; don't ask why I need it :) But I need a standard rack threaded screw that

Re: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio?

2016-03-29 Thread Ken Hohhof
Maybe it’s a civilian version of a Russian military heat ray weapon? From: Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 7:37 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio? Never mind, I see on the next page a 12 mile claim for 80 GHz as well. - Mike Hammett

Re: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio?

2016-03-29 Thread Mike Hammett
Never mind, I see on the next page a 12 mile claim for 80 GHz as well. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Mike Hammett" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, March 29,

Re: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio?

2016-03-29 Thread Eric Kuhnke
99.9% is still a ton of downtime each year, that's 43.8 minutes of outage every month, or a cumulative 8.76 hours out every year. Basically means it'll drop for 5 to 10 minutes every month in any sort of rain storm, even a slight one. If you design for five nines, yes your links will need to be a

Re: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio?

2016-03-29 Thread Mike Hammett
With as much speculation and WAGs that were in the thread so far, I assumed I was the first to actually read it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Faisal Imtiaz"

[AFMUG] OT: Funny thing of the day, highest Spamassasin score I've seen all year

2016-03-29 Thread Eric Kuhnke
I went looking for things that scored more than 30 points... This has to be the worst spam ever? I won't bother copy/pasting the body because it'll trigger every known bayesian analysis method out there. 54.2 points!!! Content preview: Compliment of the day, I am staff of Bank here in the

Re: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio?

2016-03-29 Thread Eric Kuhnke
The thing about the last page is that it doesn't jive with the radio being 10 Gbps capable. They're listing distances with 60cm antenna and QPSK modulation/250 MHz wide channel, which will result in throughput of maybe... 300 Mbps? QPSK + 1 GHz wide FDD channels should be 1 Gbps full duplex.

Re: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio?

2016-03-29 Thread Ken Hohhof
Wives and girlfriends? From: Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 7:53 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio? With as much speculation and WAGs that were in the thread so far, I assumed I was the first to actually read it. - Mike Hammett

Re: [AFMUG] mounting brackets / hardware for 4 epmp sectors on a rohn 45/

2016-03-29 Thread Mathew Howard
We're only doing 5ghz ePMP at this point, but I wouldn't put APs that close together unless I really had to anyway... I don't think we have any ePMP sectors with less than about 3' feet of separation. On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 10:09 AM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote: > I am coming

[AFMUG] Telescoping mast with gimbel

2016-03-29 Thread Jaime Solorza
My brother designed this for filming his daughters soccer games...the camera can be moved via remote control and viewed on tablet. Anyways my cousin did the machining. This one breaks down to 4 feet and fits in a pouch for easy carrying and fits in small car trunks. He is making me one for

Re: [AFMUG] mounting brackets / hardware for 4 epmp sectors on a rohn 45/

2016-03-29 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
... One can always look at something like the Rf Elements Simper Horn antennas... Stacking them close to each other on the mast would not be an issue with them :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk:

[AFMUG] Wisper Contact

2016-03-29 Thread Jason McKemie
Anyone have an after hours contact at Wisper? I'm needing to get a hold of someone over there ASAP. Thanks.

[AFMUG] Super long rack screw

2016-03-29 Thread Sterling Jacobson
This is really specific; don't ask why I need it :) But I need a standard rack threaded screw that looks like a 6 to 7 inch long motherboard standoff screw. So it would stand a 1U switch forward from the 19" rack about 6-7 inches. I tried standard rack standoff modules, but the space is too

Re: [AFMUG] Wisper Contact

2016-03-29 Thread Colin Stanners
Maybe try a tweet in case someone has it on their phone? https://mobile.twitter.com/wisperisp On Mar 29, 2016 8:48 PM, "Jason McKemie" wrote: > Anyone have an after hours contact at Wisper? I'm needing to get a hold of > someone over there ASAP. Thanks.

Re: [AFMUG] Telescoping mast with gimbel

2016-03-29 Thread Ty Featherling
Very cool. -Ty On Mar 29, 2016 8:33 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: > On Mar 29, 2016 7:32 PM, "Jaime Solorza" > wrote: > >> My brother designed this for filming his daughters soccer games...the >> camera can be moved via remote control and

Re: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio?

2016-03-29 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Clear sky atmospheric attenuation is definitely different at 40 GHz than 71-86 GHz. Might do a little better. Doesn't appear to match any sort of known FCC band plan so it would probably require requesting a special temporary authority license on a link-by-link basis. With 2' antennas and 0.6

Re: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio?

2016-03-29 Thread Mike Hammett
I also see that they're rating the distance at 99.9% uptime. In our rain region (k), 99.9% is only 7.8 km and 99.99% is 3.2 km. Take that out another 9 and we're... 1 - 1.5 km? Still seems awesome, assuming it isn't $250k. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest

Re: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio?

2016-03-29 Thread Gino Villarini
price? On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 8:47 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: > Did you actually scroll down to the last page . where the expected ranges > for the different rain zones are listed ? > > :) > > Faisal Imtiaz > Snappy Internet & Telecom > 7266 SW 48 Street > Miami, FL

Re: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio?

2016-03-29 Thread Mike Hammett
Typing as I was reading. :-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Faisal Imtiaz" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 7:47:18 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio?

2016-03-29 Thread Mike Hammett
I don't think this stuff is mutually exclusive. Why can't it be 300 megabit at QPSK and 250 MHz when conditions suck and 10 gigabit at 256 QAM at 2 GHz when conditions are good? I didn't spend the time to actually do the math to see if those numbers work out. It's not terribly different than

Re: [AFMUG] mounting brackets / hardware for 4 epmp sectors on a rohn 45/

2016-03-29 Thread Josh Luthman
The widest is 65* or so, though. That's a lot more expensive for someone debating two or four radios. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 29, 2016 9:42 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz" wrote: > ... One can

Re: [AFMUG] POE + standard

2016-03-29 Thread Sean Heskett
the 450i does the 450 is the "old canopy" standard. On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 1:14 PM, Paul McCall wrote: > Does Cambium’s new 450 gear (APs) support POE + ? > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul McCall > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 29, 2016 1:56 PM >

Re: [AFMUG] New One - 450 AP Issue

2016-03-29 Thread George Skorup
430's are V pol only. If you lost the vertical on the AP, perhaps due to water in the cable, that will do it. On 3/29/2016 2:07 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc wrote: Ok Geeks, Just had a single 450 AP drop all it�s 430 Interop. SM�s over the past 24 Hrs. Tired of

Re: [AFMUG] mounting brackets / hardware for 4 epmp sectors on a rohn 45/

2016-03-29 Thread Josh Luthman
4 90 degree antennas running ABAB with GPS Not even a question to be honest. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 10:44 AM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote: > Just looking for everyone’s

Re: [AFMUG] mounting brackets / hardware for 4 epmp sectors on a rohn 45/

2016-03-29 Thread Brandon Yuchasz
I assume you ran this way with some separation on channels? For example used 1 and 11? I am looking at this as a way to off load line of site and near line of site 900mhz fsk. We are deploying the 450i 900 as well but anyone I can move to 2.4 will save me throughput on the 450i not to mention

Re: [AFMUG] mounting brackets / hardware for 4 epmp sectors on a rohn 45/

2016-03-29 Thread Mathew Howard
Even if you only do two sectors, you still want to do GPS, as that will take care of the self interference problem. If you can cover all the customers with two 90 degrees, you could just put those up initially and you can always add the other two later on, if you have the need... or you could do

Re: [AFMUG] mounting brackets / hardware for 4 epmp sectors on a rohn 45/

2016-03-29 Thread Josh Luthman
Well if you're doing epmp you won't get any 900... As far as channels ABAB is correct. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 10:52 AM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote: > I assume you ran this way

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Trump in Utah

2016-03-29 Thread Jerry Head
"I have heard more reasoned discourse from toothless drunken rednecks sitting in lawn chairs shooting holes in the rusting car body in their front yard. " When were you in my neighborhood Chuck? You should have stopped by my house a visited for a spell On 3/22/2016 5:49 PM, Chuck McCown

Re: [AFMUG] IPV4 address space Cost

2016-03-29 Thread Matt
One auction site. http://www.ipv4auctions.com/ After you buy them you must transfer them to your account with ARIN which means meeting qualifications etc. Then you own them and must pay yearly fees to ARIN based on your block size, as I understand. On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 8:35 AM, Wireless

Re: [AFMUG] mounting brackets / hardware for 4 epmp sectors on a rohn 45/

2016-03-29 Thread Brandon Yuchasz
I am coming from FSK mostly and a little 450 so forgive my ignorance. With FSK we still needed 3 wavelengths ( 3 feet ) of separation horizontally in 900mhz to keep from self-interfering even with GPS. 3 wavelengths in 2.4 is a little more than 14 inches. Are you installing antennas close to

Re: [AFMUG] POE + standard

2016-03-29 Thread Paul McCall
What are the options? No timing port? (haven’t looked at them yet) From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Forrest Christian (List Account) Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 11:14 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] POE + standard Just be aware there are very limited options for getting

Re: [AFMUG] DKIM and incoming emails / spamassassin

2016-03-29 Thread Josh Reynolds
LOL, same here ;) On Mar 29, 2016 9:21 AM, "Sean Heskett" wrote: > FYI Erik gmail tagged your message as SPAM > > -Sean > > > On Monday, March 28, 2016, Eric Kuhnke > wrote: > >> If you are adding "points" via spamassassin to incoming emails that

Re: [AFMUG] IPV4 address space Cost

2016-03-29 Thread Josh Reynolds
Okay ;) On Mar 29, 2016 9:10 AM, "Seth Mattinen" wrote: > On 3/29/16 7:05 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > >> That's just too acquire the space. You still get to pay ARIN every year >> for their "cut" based on the amount of address space you have. >> > > > You're paying for

Re: [AFMUG] IPV4 address space Cost

2016-03-29 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 3/29/16 7:05 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote: That's just too acquire the space. You still get to pay ARIN every year for their "cut" based on the amount of address space you have. You're paying for registration services, not a "cut". You don't have to pay ARIN, but it won't be registered to you

Re: [AFMUG] IPV4 address space Cost

2016-03-29 Thread Josh Reynolds
That's just too acquire the space. You still get to pay ARIN every year for their "cut" based on the amount of address space you have. On Mar 29, 2016 9:03 AM, "Wireless Administrator" wrote: > Is this a onetime cost or ongoing annual expense? > > > > Steve > > > > *From:* Af

Re: [AFMUG] DKIM and incoming emails / spamassassin

2016-03-29 Thread Sean Heskett
FYI Erik gmail tagged your message as SPAM -Sean On Monday, March 28, 2016, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > If you are adding "points" via spamassassin to incoming emails that fail a > DKIM check, how many points? I'm playing around with tuning things now and > have had

[AFMUG] mounting brackets / hardware for 4 epmp sectors on a rohn 45/

2016-03-29 Thread Brandon Yuchasz
Just looking for everyone's experience mounting on Rohn 45 towers. We are looking to mount KP sectors on a tower site and want to make sure we have enough separation between the antennas. I am considering a few options at this site. 4 90 degree antennas running ABAB with GPS 2 90

Re: [AFMUG] IPV4 address space Cost

2016-03-29 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 3/29/16 7:34 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote: Okay ;) That's the way IP leasing outfits work. Now, how leasing compares economically or other advantages/disadvantages vs. the ARIN transfer route is an exercise left to the reader. ~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] Wisper Contact

2016-03-29 Thread Jason McKemie
Thanks guys. I've gotten a hold of someone via Facebook. Should be able to get it ironed out from here. On Tuesday, March 29, 2016, Jason McKemie wrote: > Anyone have an after hours contact at Wisper? I'm needing to get a hold of > someone over there ASAP.

Re: [AFMUG] Super long rack screw

2016-03-29 Thread Sterling Jacobson
That's a good idea. If there are not holes, is there a small screw type that is short and self-tapping? Not sure the best way to mount the ears if the holes for the ears don't exist on the switch. -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown

Re: [AFMUG] Super long rack screw

2016-03-29 Thread Jeremy
I have used the existing ear screws before and just drilled holes with a drill bit that were just slightly smaller. I was able to get them to thread with just a bit of pressure. Just need to be careful that you don't drill through the motherboard or any other components. On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at

Re: [AFMUG] Super long rack screw

2016-03-29 Thread Ken Hohhof
Rack screw can be 10-32, 12-24, M5, M6. And rack rail can be threaded, round hole, square hole. Too many options. -Original Message- From: Cassidy B. Larson Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 9:24 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Super long rack screw I know on Cisco switches

Re: [AFMUG] Super long rack screw

2016-03-29 Thread Chuck McCown
There are lots of self tapping machine screws of every size. Home Depot should have them. Just drill the proper size hole and the screw does the rest. Metal shaving inside the case is a concern. -Original Message- From: Sterling Jacobson Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 8:22 PM To:

Re: [AFMUG] mounting brackets / hardware for 4 epmp sectors on a rohn 45/

2016-03-29 Thread Mathew Howard
The wider beam horns are pretty low gain though... the 90 degree is only 10dbi On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 10:46 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > Oh they made new ones?! Awesome news. I was so bummed out talking to JT > about their freq range awhile back. I'm glad they redesigned

Re: [AFMUG] mounting brackets / hardware for 4 epmp sectors on a rohn 45/

2016-03-29 Thread Josh Luthman
Still talking horns? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 29, 2016 11:42 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz" wrote: > They have a full range... 30/40/50/60/70/80/90... > > Just need to make sure you get the newer stuff

Re: [AFMUG] Super long rack screw

2016-03-29 Thread Cassidy B. Larson
I know on Cisco switches you could turn the ears around and the holes would line up so you’d get more switch in front of the rails. > On Mar 29, 2016, at 8:22 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: > > That's a good idea. > > If there are not holes, is there a small screw type

Re: [AFMUG] Telescoping mast with gimbel

2016-03-29 Thread Jaime Solorza
The gimbal is controlled by raspberry pi and tiny PLC... 12 vdc 5Amps battery and some conversion to 5vdc...my lil bro works for Raytheon... he is EE and ME... actually not the smartest one in family... my youngest sister has real high IQ but only likes to readreally good at math but its

Re: [AFMUG] Super long rack screw

2016-03-29 Thread Mike Hammett
Tap and die set? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Sterling Jacobson" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 9:22:47 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Super

Re: [AFMUG] Super long rack screw

2016-03-29 Thread Sterling Jacobson
I need like 6-7 inches of that. I know some devices have that far a setback on their mounting system, but I don't think these do. -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Cassidy B. Larson Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 8:25 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re:

Re: [AFMUG] Super long rack screw

2016-03-29 Thread Eric Kuhnke
I've seen lots of M6 in the stuff from China, and of course 12-24 and 10-32 from US sources... But never M5. On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 7:41 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > Rack screw can be 10-32, 12-24, M5, M6. And rack rail can be threaded, > round hole, square hole. Too many

Re: [AFMUG] Super long rack screw

2016-03-29 Thread Sterling Jacobson
Threaded, the thinner barrel closer together threads. Probably a 10-32. -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 8:41 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Super long rack screw Rack screw can be 10-32, 12-24, M5,

Re: [AFMUG] POE + standard

2016-03-29 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
Just be aware there are very limited options for getting sync into a 450i if you don't use sync over the power port. On Mar 29, 2016 1:22 PM, "Sean Heskett" wrote: > the 450i does > > the 450 is the "old canopy" standard. > > On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 1:14 PM, Paul McCall

Re: [AFMUG] mounting brackets / hardware for 4 epmp sectors on a rohn 45/

2016-03-29 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
They have a full range... 30/40/50/60/70/80/90... Just need to make sure you get the newer stuff that supports the full 5.x range... :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email:

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Re: [AFMUG] mounting brackets / hardware for 4 epmp sectors on a rohn 45/

2016-03-29 Thread Josh Reynolds
Oh they made new ones?! Awesome news. I was so bummed out talking to JT about their freq range awhile back. I'm glad they redesigned them. On Mar 29, 2016 10:42 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz" wrote: > They have a full range... 30/40/50/60/70/80/90... > > Just need to make sure you

Re: [AFMUG] mounting brackets / hardware for 4 epmp sectors on a rohn 45/

2016-03-29 Thread Josh Reynolds
Still perfect for high density short range micropops on new gen TX/RX filtering radio designs ;) On Mar 29, 2016 10:48 PM, "Mathew Howard" wrote: > The wider beam horns are pretty low gain though... the 90 degree is only > 10dbi > > On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 10:46 PM, Josh

Re: [AFMUG] Super long rack screw

2016-03-29 Thread Ken Hohhof
I think even here in the US, square holes and M6 cage nuts and screws are pretty much standard. At least in data centers. Telco might still use 12-24. From: Eric Kuhnke Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 9:45 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Super long rack screw I've seen lots of M6 in

Re: [AFMUG] mounting brackets / hardware for 4 epmp sectors on a rohn 45/

2016-03-29 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
That is what I was told at the WISPAmerica show when i was giving them a bit of grief.. not sure what is the production / shipping schedule... They told me that they have solved that problem :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x

Re: [AFMUG] mounting brackets / hardware for 4 epmp sectors on a rohn 45/

2016-03-29 Thread Josh Reynolds
They make a 30 just for that... On Mar 29, 2016 11:15 PM, "Mathew Howard" wrote: > True, but I would think the narrower beams would be more desirable in that > case... which are also higher gain. > > If I needed to put six or eight sectors on a tower, I would definitely be